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Last one to the mailbox?
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Whoo!
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Morgan, move!
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Morgan!
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Morgan!
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All units be on the lookout
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for a white church van
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with heavy frontal damage.It's long gone.
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Whoa. Forget I said anything.
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Come to Papa.Unit 1-5-2,
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we are northbound on River Road
just past Cannon.
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Show us following a vehicle
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possibly involved in felony
hit-and-run 45 minutes ago.
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White Ford van
with license plate
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nine, Eddie, three, seven,
Larry, Peter. Requesting backup.
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Lower the window, then place
your hands back on the wheel.
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Have you fellas found the woman?
Is she okay?
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Sir, I smell alcohol.
Have you been drinking?
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Oh, well...
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I...Sir, I'm gonna need you
to step out of the vehicle.
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Keep your hands
in front of you.
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But what about the girl?
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Step out of the vehicle, now.
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You can set
your watch to it.
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9:52, each and every
Sunday morning.
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Benjamin Colón,
Attorney at Law emerges
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from 9:00 mass looking
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renewed and refreshed.
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Monsignor Espinoza! Wow!
Ah, I see you're slumming it.
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Huh, what,
they bump you
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back down to
parish priest?
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Aren't you supposed
to be working the door
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at St. Patrick's
Cathedral?
Hey, hey.
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Do not be a wise guy.
Remember who I work for?
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Ah, indeed, indeed.
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So good to
see you, Father.
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What brings you back down here?
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You.
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Your church needs
your help, Benny.
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Mm. Promise you,
Monsignor,
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I'm putting every dime
I can spare in that plate.
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I mean professionally.
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One of our parish priests
out on the end of Long Island,
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Father Andy Tincher,
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has been charged
in a hit-and-run.
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Victim was a young woman
out jogging with her sister.
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Yeah, I read about that.
Absolutely tragic.
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But, I mean, what can I do?
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I have to believe the diocese's
attorneys have it all covered,
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and frankly,
from everything I've read,
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the best move, maybe,
is to get your guys in there
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and have them work out
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a plea deal.
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It's-it's a bit more
complicated than that.
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They hit someone,
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drove right to this church,
and then went to confession?
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No, no, it was
a church van.
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Whoever it was,
was driving a church van,
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so they drove straight
back to the church,
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Father Andy saw whoever it was,
saw that they were upset,
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got them to
confess to him,
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then tried to get
them to call 911.
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And they wouldn't?Nope.
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Worse still, the driver
didn't even know
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if the victim was alive or dead.
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So Father Andy did
the only thing he could do.
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So why didn't the
priest call 911?
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Well, the Confessional Seal
demands that a priest
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never reveal anything disclosed
to him during confession.
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Father Andy thought
the victim might be
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suffering on the side
of some dark road,
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so he got back in
the van to find her
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and see if
he could help.
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With a blood alcohol
count of .09.
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Fine, he-he's guilty
of drunk driving,
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no one is disputing that, but
the rest of it is exactly why
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Monsignor Espinoza
needs our help.
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He knows how this is
gonna sound to a jury.
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Oh, Benny.
No, Bull,
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you're not, you're not
hearing me.
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This isn't just about
a hit-and-run.
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This is about the Church--
the Roman Catholic Church,
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the largest Christian church
in the world--
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going to court to protect
the sanctity of confession,
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one of the bedrock principles
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of the religion,
and they want you and me
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to make that case for them.
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I feel terribly for
the poor woman's family.
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I mean, trying to grieve
with all of this going on?
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I think it's just best we
focus on the defense, Father.
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As I'm sure
you know, Father,
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as officers of the court,
there are any number
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of privileges
that we deal with.
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Attorney-client.
Doctor-patient.
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But the Confessional Seal
is considerably broader
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than what we've
worked with before.
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So I just need to get a sense
of how big a blind spot it is
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we're dealing
with here.
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Of course, of course. Fire away.
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So this someone, whose
name you can't share,
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hits the woman
with the church van,
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comes back here
and confesses.
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Yeah.
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And after that,
how did they leave?
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Excuse me? I don't follow.
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I-I think what
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Dr. Bull is asking is,
what occurred
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after the sacrament
of confession was performed?
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Maybe there are some things
that you can tell us,
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without violating the Seal,
that can help us
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find the person
who actually did this.
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I mean, wouldn't that
be the best
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outcome for all of us?
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I don't think I'm
gonna be much help here.
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I mean...
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if this had occurred
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in the confessional booth,
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I couldn't divulge information
about the confessor
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as they left the church
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because they're on the
other side of the curtain.
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It's designed that way
on purpose.
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I'm not supposed to see
who's offering the confession.
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But this confession
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didn't take place
in a confessional booth.
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It was in the church driveway.
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I don't think where you confess
makes a difference to God.
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Have you had any contact
with the driver
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since he or she
made the confession?
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It feels like these questions
are really all just an effort
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to get to the identity
of the confessor,
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which you have to understand,
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I'm not at liberty to disclose.
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I mean, not without
violating the spirit
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of the Confessional Seal.
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Father Andy, I don't know
what to tell you.
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You were caught
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in the van with
the victim's blood on it.
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You were drunk.
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You're being charged
with vehicular manslaughter,
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leaving the scene
of an accident,
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and driving under the influence.
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The prosecution
has a very strong case.
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Now, I'm not asking you
to break your vows
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or the Confessional Seal,
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but I can't defend you if you
won't help defend yourself.
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Huh?
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You just-- you got to give me
something to work with.
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I'll understand
if you can't help me.
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Will you really?
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You're willing to spend
15 or 20 years in prison
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for something you didn't do?
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Do you believe in God, Dr. Bull?
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Well, when I'm on a plane
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and there's a lot of turbulence,
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I sometimes wish I'd gone
to church a bit more,
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but day in and day out?
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Confession is a...
is a gift of grace
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and a way back to God
for those who are lost.
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It saves lives and souls.
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I understand.
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This is not a choice
for me, gentlemen.
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I mean, confession's
not an obstacle to overcome
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so you can catch
whoever did this.
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It's-it's an essential step
on the path to redemption
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for that tortured soul
who killed that woman.
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So, no.
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I can't give you
something to work with.
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I'm doing the only thing
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I know how.
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I'm putting my trust in God.
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Thing that makes
turbulence so frightening
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is you never
see it coming.
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Mr. Colón and I would be pleased
to represent you, Father.
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♪
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Ah. Don't think I've ever
tried a case in Suffolk County.
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Well, that's the judge,
uh, there's the jury,
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and we sit here.
Mm.
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All right. So what's the plan?
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Win.
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Well, we need to make sure
whoever ends up in that jury box
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understand the only reason
Father Andy was in that van
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was because he made a solemn vow
he could not break.
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Well, that doesn't
sound so tough.
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People understand vows.
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Marriage vows...
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Well, you would
be surprised.
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For most people, the idea
of going to prison
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just to keep a promise,
that's gonna be a tough sell.
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And it's not like we can put
Father Andy on the stand.
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Why not? I can't imagine
a more trustworthy witness.
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Well, the problem is he's
not gonna be able to answer
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the questions the other
side is gonna ask,
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and the jury's gonna
hold that against him.
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They're gonna feel like he's
hiding something, which he is.
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Even if it's for
the right reasons?
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Trust me, it's human nature.
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If someone's got a secret,
we want to know what it is.
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What about these jurors?
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I'm assuming we're
looking for Catholics,
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or at the very least,
regular churchgoers?
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Not necessarily.
Believe it or not,
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church attendance is not always
such a great indicator
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of a person's spiritual life.
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I see that you attend
Hope Baptist Church?
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17 years. Every Sunday.
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That may be what she's doing
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on Sundays,
but the rest of the week,
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she's having an
"emotional affair" via text
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with a man from Albuquerque
she's never met,
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and who her husband
is totally unaware of.
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What we want are
moral objectivists.
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Jurors with a strong
internal code
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that doesn't change
with societal whims
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and bureaucratic rules.
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They're duty bound,
they know the value of a secret,
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and more importantly, expect
everyone to keep their word.
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Good morning, sir.
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I see, from your
jury questionnaire
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that you have
a 14-year-old daughter.
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I do.
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By any chance,
does she keep a diary?
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She calls it a journal.Ah.
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You ever think
about looking at it?
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Reading it?
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No. That's not...
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What if
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you were worried about her?
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Something going on behaviorally
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and she won't
talk to you about?
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No. I couldn't.
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It's hers.
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Your Honor,
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this juror is acceptable
to the defense.
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And this is my domain.
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Is this where someone would come
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if they wanted
to check out the van?
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If we still had one,
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and you wanted to use it,
this is where you would come.
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And the drivers?
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Well, there's Father Andy,
of course,
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and me, and eight others
are authorized to take it.
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I'll get you the names.
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How do you keep track of who
has the van at any given time?
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Oh, well, every trip is entered
on the calendar.
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We don't want our choir stranded
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because someone decided to get
groceries for the kitchen.
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And the key?
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We keep it in here.
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Only authorized drivers
are given the combination.
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And we have this log,
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which is where they're supposed
to sign out
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whenever they take the key.
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Unfortunately,
no one signed out
254
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the night of the accident.
255
00:12:36,103 --> 00:12:38,583
Oh, my gosh!
256
00:12:38,627 --> 00:12:39,976
There he is.
257
00:12:40,020 --> 00:12:41,978
Jacob. Harvard?
258
00:12:42,022 --> 00:12:44,154
Oh, that is amazing.
259
00:12:44,198 --> 00:12:45,895
I have been praying
you would hear good news.
260
00:12:45,939 --> 00:12:47,114
Thanks.
261
00:12:47,157 --> 00:12:49,159
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
262
00:12:49,203 --> 00:12:50,465
In the meantime,
we're all starving here.
263
00:12:50,508 --> 00:12:51,727
Pizza should be
arriving any minute.
264
00:12:51,771 --> 00:12:54,121
I'll get you your petty cash.
265
00:12:58,038 --> 00:13:00,301
Oh. Give me a second.
266
00:13:13,488 --> 00:13:15,838
I understand you also had
an opportunity to examine
267
00:13:15,882 --> 00:13:18,928
the vehicle involved,
the St. Bernadine's church van?
268
00:13:18,972 --> 00:13:21,235
Yes, I did.
269
00:13:21,278 --> 00:13:22,627
And this wasn't
your first encounter
270
00:13:22,671 --> 00:13:24,978
with this particular vehicle,
was it?
271
00:13:25,021 --> 00:13:26,936
No.
272
00:13:26,980 --> 00:13:29,765
Can you
tell us about it?
273
00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:32,855
I stopped to assist Father Andy
two years ago.
274
00:13:32,899 --> 00:13:34,465
He was in the same van
275
00:13:34,509 --> 00:13:35,858
on the side of the road
with a flat tire.
276
00:13:35,902 --> 00:13:38,469
Was there anything unusual
about this interaction?
277
00:13:41,516 --> 00:13:44,388
He had clearly been drinking.
278
00:13:45,955 --> 00:13:47,130
Your Honor?
279
00:13:47,174 --> 00:13:48,088
May we approach?
280
00:13:51,134 --> 00:13:52,570
Your Honor,
281
00:13:52,614 --> 00:13:54,877
this is impermissible
character evidence.
282
00:13:54,921 --> 00:13:57,532
We all know that
the prosecution isn't permitted
283
00:13:57,575 --> 00:13:59,969
to prove conduct
through a prior bad act.
284
00:14:00,013 --> 00:14:01,710
Defense counsel asserted
in his opening statement
285
00:14:01,753 --> 00:14:04,147
that the defendant
never would have driven drunk
286
00:14:04,191 --> 00:14:05,322
but for the alleged confession.
287
00:14:05,366 --> 00:14:06,758
He opened the door to this.
288
00:14:06,802 --> 00:14:08,543
We're permitted--
in fact, we're obligated--
289
00:14:08,586 --> 00:14:10,240
to refute that defense.
290
00:14:10,284 --> 00:14:13,026
I'm gonna allow it.
291
00:14:17,944 --> 00:14:21,730
And did you arrest the defendant
at that time? Cite him?
292
00:14:21,773 --> 00:14:24,646
No.
293
00:14:24,689 --> 00:14:26,735
He was a priest,
and I felt sorry for him,
294
00:14:26,778 --> 00:14:28,955
so I drove him
back to the church.
295
00:14:28,998 --> 00:14:30,913
No further questions,
Your Honor.
296
00:14:30,957 --> 00:14:32,959
So how bad is it?
297
00:14:33,002 --> 00:14:35,483
How bad would you like it?
298
00:14:35,526 --> 00:14:37,093
We've lost them all.
299
00:14:37,137 --> 00:14:38,486
Not a single green in the bunch.
300
00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,409
I never
put it together.
301
00:14:48,452 --> 00:14:51,629
Not even when the
officer took the stand.
302
00:14:51,673 --> 00:14:54,937
I-It's not like he, he asked me
if I'd been drinking, or...
303
00:14:54,981 --> 00:14:56,330
It's not like he gave me
304
00:14:56,373 --> 00:14:57,984
a breathalyzer test.
305
00:14:58,027 --> 00:15:01,074
I-I was trying to change a tire
and he came over to help.
306
00:15:01,117 --> 00:15:03,990
And, like, a
minute in, he said,
307
00:15:04,033 --> 00:15:07,819
"How about I just give you
a ride back to the church?"
308
00:15:07,863 --> 00:15:09,865
I'm guessing he could
smell it on you.
309
00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:12,737
It's not like that.
I-I'd come from a wedding.
310
00:15:12,781 --> 00:15:15,697
No. Sorry. It is like that.
311
00:15:15,740 --> 00:15:18,918
You're on trial for murder,
for killing a young woman
312
00:15:18,961 --> 00:15:20,093
while driving
under the influence.
313
00:15:20,136 --> 00:15:21,964
I wasn't drunk.
314
00:15:22,008 --> 00:15:24,401
I think I'd had two glasses
of wine. Maybe three...
315
00:15:24,445 --> 00:15:26,534
Father Andy,
we really need to know,
316
00:15:26,577 --> 00:15:29,580
are there gonna be
any other surprises?
317
00:15:29,624 --> 00:15:31,713
No. I'm certain of it. No.
318
00:15:31,756 --> 00:15:34,063
Unfortunately, Officer Avery's
testimony made it sound
319
00:15:34,107 --> 00:15:36,196
like this was
a pattern of behavior.
320
00:15:38,198 --> 00:15:39,939
I'm gonna need you
to take the stand.
321
00:15:39,982 --> 00:15:43,029
Uh... what would be the point?
322
00:15:43,072 --> 00:15:45,335
I mean, what would
you want me to say?
323
00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,339
The truth.
324
00:15:49,383 --> 00:15:51,080
I need you to talk about
the night of the flat tire.
325
00:15:51,124 --> 00:15:53,474
There's no confession involved.
326
00:15:53,517 --> 00:15:55,519
You don't need to talk
about anybody but yourself.
327
00:15:55,563 --> 00:15:59,436
It'll give the jurors a chance
to see who you really are.
328
00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,699
That you're forthcoming.
329
00:16:01,743 --> 00:16:03,440
That you're not afraid
to take the witness stand,
330
00:16:03,484 --> 00:16:05,529
and most importantly,
331
00:16:05,573 --> 00:16:09,098
that you're not someone
who normally drinks and drives.
332
00:16:12,667 --> 00:16:16,018
And what happens if they start
asking about the hit-and-run?
333
00:16:16,062 --> 00:16:18,760
We'll invoke
the cleric-penitent privilege.
334
00:16:18,803 --> 00:16:20,980
What choice do we have?
335
00:16:21,023 --> 00:16:22,633
So,
336
00:16:22,677 --> 00:16:24,026
at this
particular reception,
337
00:16:24,070 --> 00:16:27,029
how many drinks
would you say you had?
338
00:16:27,073 --> 00:16:28,900
Two.
339
00:16:28,944 --> 00:16:30,946
Maybe three-- glasses of wine.
340
00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:32,992
Two? Maybe three?
341
00:16:33,035 --> 00:16:34,776
You don't remember?
342
00:16:34,819 --> 00:16:37,431
I mean, w-was it two or three?
343
00:16:37,474 --> 00:16:39,868
Well, truthfully,
I can't be sure.
344
00:16:39,911 --> 00:16:41,609
It was over two years ago.
345
00:16:41,652 --> 00:16:45,308
Well, you testified that you-you
really don't drink that often.
346
00:16:45,352 --> 00:16:48,703
So I would think that you would
remember if it was two or three.
347
00:16:48,746 --> 00:16:52,141
Maybe I'll just answer "three"
next time.
348
00:16:52,185 --> 00:16:55,231
Ask me something else.
349
00:16:55,275 --> 00:16:59,192
So it's your testimony, Father,
350
00:16:59,235 --> 00:17:02,456
that the only two times
351
00:17:02,499 --> 00:17:04,893
that you've been stopped
by law enforcement
352
00:17:04,936 --> 00:17:08,288
happened to also be the only
two times that you've drank
353
00:17:08,331 --> 00:17:11,508
and then got behind
the wheel of a car?
354
00:17:11,552 --> 00:17:13,902
I-I... Now, I know
how that sounds.
355
00:17:13,945 --> 00:17:18,167
I've-I've heard all the stories
and all the jokes about
356
00:17:18,211 --> 00:17:20,517
drunken priests.
357
00:17:23,259 --> 00:17:26,958
Go to a wedding,
everybody's dressed up,
358
00:17:27,002 --> 00:17:29,439
everybody's there
to have a good time.
359
00:17:29,483 --> 00:17:34,053
And there I am, with my collar
and my vows and my Bible,
360
00:17:34,096 --> 00:17:37,491
and I'm-I'm a-a silent reminder
361
00:17:37,534 --> 00:17:41,147
to everyone, uh,
not to have too much fun.
362
00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:44,411
Not to have too good a time.
363
00:17:44,454 --> 00:17:48,458
And what I've discovered
over the years is that
364
00:17:48,502 --> 00:17:51,244
if I'm holding
a glass of something--
365
00:17:51,287 --> 00:17:54,116
i-if I'm holding
a glass of anything--
366
00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,075
people relax a little bit.
367
00:17:56,118 --> 00:17:59,426
They-they forget a little bit.
368
00:17:59,469 --> 00:18:02,646
Okay. That's better.
369
00:18:02,690 --> 00:18:06,476
That's warmer,
it's a touch more human.
370
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,089
But frankly, the jury doesn't
want to hear excuses,
371
00:18:10,132 --> 00:18:13,179
or that you drink to make them
feel more comfortable.
372
00:18:13,222 --> 00:18:15,746
A woman is dead.
373
00:18:15,790 --> 00:18:18,097
And you know what happened
and you won't tell anyone
374
00:18:18,140 --> 00:18:20,403
and you're asking for a pass.
375
00:18:20,447 --> 00:18:25,016
And so what I want in return--
what, what they want in return--
376
00:18:25,060 --> 00:18:26,627
is to feel that they know you.
377
00:18:26,670 --> 00:18:28,411
To feel that they can trust you.
378
00:18:28,455 --> 00:18:31,284
Okay. How do I do that?
379
00:18:31,327 --> 00:18:33,895
Take ownership of your mistakes.
380
00:18:33,938 --> 00:18:36,767
"I drank too much. Period.
381
00:18:36,811 --> 00:18:40,336
"I should not have
driven myself home. Period.
382
00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:42,512
"I vowed to never
do it again.
383
00:18:42,556 --> 00:18:44,384
"Period.
The night of the hit-and-run
384
00:18:44,427 --> 00:18:46,995
"is a completely
different thing. Period.
385
00:18:47,038 --> 00:18:49,606
"There was a woman on the side
of the road who needed help
386
00:18:49,650 --> 00:18:54,176
and I was determined
to help her. Period."
387
00:18:56,222 --> 00:18:59,094
Is this the way
you always do it,
388
00:18:59,138 --> 00:19:01,270
prepare people for court?
389
00:19:01,314 --> 00:19:03,881
I mean, you
raise your voice?
390
00:19:03,925 --> 00:19:07,015
You taunt them?
391
00:19:07,058 --> 00:19:09,017
Or is this just for me?
392
00:19:09,060 --> 00:19:11,628
No.
393
00:19:11,672 --> 00:19:13,630
I have a complicated
relationship
394
00:19:13,674 --> 00:19:15,632
with organized religion,
395
00:19:15,676 --> 00:19:18,635
and I think I projected that
onto you.
396
00:19:18,679 --> 00:19:20,115
Hmm.
397
00:19:20,159 --> 00:19:22,291
Well, you're in good company.
398
00:19:22,335 --> 00:19:26,469
A lot of people have problems
with organized religion.
399
00:19:26,513 --> 00:19:29,255
No, I don't have a problem
with organized religion.
400
00:19:29,298 --> 00:19:32,562
It has a problem with me.
401
00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:34,434
Catholic?
402
00:19:34,477 --> 00:19:36,044
Baptist.
403
00:19:36,087 --> 00:19:39,656
Hmm.
404
00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:42,964
I went every Sunday.
405
00:19:43,007 --> 00:19:46,663
I started singing in the choir
in eighth grade.
406
00:19:52,408 --> 00:19:56,064
Those were tough years for me.
407
00:19:56,107 --> 00:19:59,328
I carried around a lot of shame.
408
00:20:05,291 --> 00:20:08,250
I wasn't sure who I was,
409
00:20:08,294 --> 00:20:11,297
and when I started getting
surer, I wasn't sure I liked it.
410
00:20:14,082 --> 00:20:16,650
I can't count the number of
nights that I'd go to sleep
411
00:20:16,693 --> 00:20:20,131
praying to God
that he would fix me.
412
00:20:22,308 --> 00:20:25,485
It was pretty clear that...
413
00:20:25,528 --> 00:20:28,357
I was no longer welcome.
414
00:20:31,491 --> 00:20:35,495
And I got to admit...
415
00:20:35,538 --> 00:20:38,062
I miss it.
416
00:20:42,893 --> 00:20:45,200
But now I guess you could say
417
00:20:45,244 --> 00:20:49,117
that my relationship with God
is my own.
418
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,512
Hmm.
419
00:20:52,555 --> 00:20:55,689
Well, good for you.
420
00:20:55,732 --> 00:20:57,560
I'm glad you didn't
give up on God
421
00:20:57,604 --> 00:21:01,390
because your church
gave up on you.
422
00:21:04,219 --> 00:21:08,441
Now, ask me another question.
423
00:21:08,484 --> 00:21:09,920
I'm telling you,
424
00:21:09,964 --> 00:21:12,358
anyone could have taken
that van key, authorized or not.
425
00:21:12,401 --> 00:21:13,794
Well here's a crazy idea.
426
00:21:13,837 --> 00:21:16,187
What if we forget about the who.
427
00:21:16,231 --> 00:21:18,233
Maybe just concentrate
on the where.
428
00:21:18,277 --> 00:21:19,930
I'm not following.
429
00:21:19,974 --> 00:21:22,629
Well, I was thinking,
if I could just figure out
430
00:21:22,672 --> 00:21:25,022
where the van had been
and where the van was heading,
431
00:21:25,066 --> 00:21:26,807
it might help us
identify the driver.
432
00:21:26,850 --> 00:21:29,200
You can do that?Already did.
433
00:21:29,244 --> 00:21:30,680
The van has an onboard
navigation system,
434
00:21:30,724 --> 00:21:32,073
which I was able
to access remotely.
435
00:21:32,116 --> 00:21:35,642
The cool thing is,
any time the vehicle is on,
436
00:21:35,685 --> 00:21:37,861
the system notes
and records its location
437
00:21:37,905 --> 00:21:41,038
whether you're asking it
for directions or not.
438
00:21:41,082 --> 00:21:43,214
We know the location
of the hit-and-run.
439
00:21:43,258 --> 00:21:45,086
So what I've been doing
is looking for other trips
440
00:21:45,129 --> 00:21:47,697
that used that road,
passed by that location.
441
00:21:47,741 --> 00:21:49,438
And...?
442
00:21:49,482 --> 00:21:52,093
And I found two others.
443
00:21:52,136 --> 00:21:54,356
Both stopped
at the same address.
444
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,185
Do they correlate with any
other entries in the log pages?
445
00:21:57,228 --> 00:21:59,448
They do not.
446
00:21:59,492 --> 00:22:01,320
If you give me that address,
I'll go over and check it out,
see what I can find out.
447
00:22:01,363 --> 00:22:02,669
Just e-mailed it to you.
448
00:22:04,366 --> 00:22:08,109
So Officer Avery didn't actually
administer a breathalyzer test?
449
00:22:08,152 --> 00:22:09,371
No. He didn't.
450
00:22:09,415 --> 00:22:12,200
Or conduct any kind
of field sobriety testing?
451
00:22:12,243 --> 00:22:15,943
No. Uh, but I-I still think
Officer Avery
452
00:22:15,986 --> 00:22:18,728
did the right thing,
driving me home.
453
00:22:18,772 --> 00:22:21,731
I'd had a few glasses of wine.
454
00:22:21,775 --> 00:22:26,736
And, uh, I-I really
shouldn't have driven.
455
00:22:26,780 --> 00:22:30,349
It was a mistake, and one
that I don't take lightly.
456
00:22:30,392 --> 00:22:33,961
I don't make a habit
of drinking and driving.
457
00:22:34,004 --> 00:22:38,226
Although, I-I do understand
how it must look.
458
00:22:38,269 --> 00:22:40,620
And yet, you did drink and drive
459
00:22:40,663 --> 00:22:42,752
on the night
of Ms. Newhouse's death.
460
00:22:42,796 --> 00:22:45,059
Yes, I did.
461
00:22:45,102 --> 00:22:47,409
And I plead guilty to that.
462
00:22:47,453 --> 00:22:51,413
Father, can you please
explain to the court
463
00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:54,329
how you ended up behind
the wheel of the van that night?
464
00:22:57,332 --> 00:22:59,160
I was in my office.
465
00:22:59,203 --> 00:23:00,814
Uh, typically,
466
00:23:00,857 --> 00:23:03,599
Thursdays are
the only night that, uh,
467
00:23:03,643 --> 00:23:06,950
I have any time to myself.
468
00:23:06,994 --> 00:23:08,691
I have a Scotch.
469
00:23:08,735 --> 00:23:10,911
I started to read.
470
00:23:10,954 --> 00:23:13,653
A window was open
471
00:23:13,696 --> 00:23:17,308
and I heard the parish van
drive up behind the rectory.
472
00:23:17,352 --> 00:23:20,747
I didn't remember there being
anything scheduled.
473
00:23:20,790 --> 00:23:23,793
To be honest, I didn't even know
that someone had taken it.
474
00:23:23,837 --> 00:23:26,230
So I walked down
to see who it was.
475
00:23:27,623 --> 00:23:29,756
And what did you find?
476
00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:32,802
The driver-- this person--
477
00:23:32,846 --> 00:23:34,456
was very upset.
478
00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:37,024
Panicked.
479
00:23:37,067 --> 00:23:39,287
And they confessed to me
480
00:23:39,330 --> 00:23:42,159
that they had struck a woman
with the van.
481
00:23:42,203 --> 00:23:44,901
And what did you do?
482
00:23:44,945 --> 00:23:48,470
I gave absolution.
483
00:23:48,514 --> 00:23:53,083
And then I pleaded
with the driver to call 911.
484
00:23:53,127 --> 00:23:54,781
And did they?
485
00:23:54,824 --> 00:23:58,915
The person-- the-the driver--
486
00:23:58,959 --> 00:24:00,830
they were pretty distraught.
487
00:24:00,874 --> 00:24:02,615
They were quite hysterical.
488
00:24:02,658 --> 00:24:05,661
And I realized that this person
489
00:24:05,705 --> 00:24:07,924
was not capable
of making that call.
490
00:24:07,968 --> 00:24:09,665
So did you make it?
491
00:24:09,709 --> 00:24:12,320
Did you call 911
492
00:24:12,363 --> 00:24:13,582
when the driver refused to?
493
00:24:13,626 --> 00:24:15,279
No.
494
00:24:15,323 --> 00:24:18,805
No. The Confessional Seal
can't be broken.
495
00:24:18,848 --> 00:24:20,502
So I couldn't.
496
00:24:20,546 --> 00:24:22,504
And all I kept thinking about
497
00:24:22,548 --> 00:24:25,072
was this woman
that I had just heard about.
498
00:24:25,115 --> 00:24:28,510
And I-I had a...
only a vague description
499
00:24:28,554 --> 00:24:30,512
of where all of this happened.
500
00:24:32,906 --> 00:24:34,429
And the only thing
I could think to do
501
00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:37,693
was to get in the van
and go look for her myself.
502
00:24:37,737 --> 00:24:41,131
Father Andy...
503
00:24:41,175 --> 00:24:42,959
were you driving the van
504
00:24:43,003 --> 00:24:44,961
when it struck and killed
Morgan Newhouse?
505
00:24:47,268 --> 00:24:50,401
When you called me up here,
506
00:24:50,445 --> 00:24:54,318
you had me place my hand
on the Holy Bible.
507
00:24:54,362 --> 00:24:57,583
And I swore
that I would tell the truth.
508
00:24:57,626 --> 00:24:59,149
So here it is.
509
00:25:01,761 --> 00:25:05,808
I was not in that van when
it struck poor Ms. Newhouse.
510
00:25:05,852 --> 00:25:09,595
And I certainly was not driving
that van when it struck her.
511
00:25:09,638 --> 00:25:14,077
I did get in it
and go look for her.
512
00:25:14,121 --> 00:25:17,124
And I had a drink
shortly before.
513
00:25:21,432 --> 00:25:24,523
I know how much it must ache
514
00:25:24,566 --> 00:25:27,003
not to know
what happened.
515
00:25:27,047 --> 00:25:28,309
I know
how it pains me
516
00:25:28,352 --> 00:25:30,920
not to be able to tell you.
517
00:25:30,964 --> 00:25:33,532
But God has a plan.
518
00:25:33,575 --> 00:25:36,752
I believe that
with all my heart.
519
00:25:36,796 --> 00:25:39,189
Thank you, Father.
520
00:25:39,233 --> 00:25:41,365
No further questions,
Your Honor.
521
00:25:43,367 --> 00:25:45,631
Drumroll, please...
522
00:25:45,674 --> 00:25:47,589
They like him.
523
00:25:47,633 --> 00:25:49,504
They sense
he's telling the truth.
524
00:25:49,548 --> 00:25:51,724
We've won back three jurors.
525
00:25:51,767 --> 00:25:52,855
Hmm.
526
00:25:55,379 --> 00:25:57,338
Father Andy...
527
00:25:57,381 --> 00:25:59,209
let me make sure
I understood you.
528
00:25:59,253 --> 00:26:01,255
On the night in question,
529
00:26:01,298 --> 00:26:03,083
you went down to the van.
530
00:26:03,126 --> 00:26:05,433
This alleged driver did not
seek you out. Is that correct?
531
00:26:05,476 --> 00:26:06,956
Yes, that's correct.
532
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,349
Okay, then.
533
00:26:08,392 --> 00:26:10,481
Now that we've
cleared that up,
534
00:26:10,525 --> 00:26:12,266
I have
just one question for you.
535
00:26:12,309 --> 00:26:15,443
If you weren't driving the van
that killed Morgan Newhouse...
536
00:26:15,486 --> 00:26:16,836
who was?Objection!
537
00:26:16,879 --> 00:26:19,621
Your Honor,
as we've previously established,
538
00:26:19,665 --> 00:26:21,275
this information is protected
539
00:26:21,318 --> 00:26:23,712
by the cleric-penitent
privilege.
540
00:26:23,756 --> 00:26:25,540
I disagree, Your Honor.
541
00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:29,065
Would the attorneys please
approach the bench?
542
00:26:33,113 --> 00:26:34,810
Your Honor, based on
Father Andrew's testimony
543
00:26:34,854 --> 00:26:38,248
just moments ago, the privilege
doesn't apply in this case.
544
00:26:38,292 --> 00:26:39,641
To meet the legal threshold,
545
00:26:39,685 --> 00:26:41,687
the penitent must be
intentionally seeking
546
00:26:41,730 --> 00:26:43,558
spiritual guidance
and absolution.
547
00:26:43,602 --> 00:26:44,994
Your client just admitted
548
00:26:45,038 --> 00:26:46,605
that it was he
who sought out the driver,
549
00:26:46,648 --> 00:26:47,606
not the other way around.
550
00:26:47,649 --> 00:26:49,216
Well, that's ridiculous.
551
00:26:49,259 --> 00:26:51,784
It's obvious what the intent
of the law is, Your Honor.
552
00:26:53,699 --> 00:26:56,310
Mr. Colón,
I understand your argument,
553
00:26:56,353 --> 00:26:58,225
but since the language
of the statute
554
00:26:58,268 --> 00:27:00,575
doesn't support your position,
555
00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:03,491
I'm going to have to side
with Mr. Madden.
556
00:27:03,534 --> 00:27:05,754
I'm sorry, but no privilege
will be granted
557
00:27:05,798 --> 00:27:07,451
with regard to
your client's testimony.
558
00:27:10,716 --> 00:27:13,588
I sense some turbulence coming.
559
00:27:15,851 --> 00:27:20,900
The witness is instructed
to answer the question.
560
00:27:20,943 --> 00:27:23,729
I'm sorry, Your Honor.
561
00:27:23,772 --> 00:27:25,165
I cannot answer.
562
00:27:25,208 --> 00:27:26,862
Father Andy,
563
00:27:26,906 --> 00:27:28,385
the court ruled
564
00:27:28,429 --> 00:27:30,866
that the clergy-penitent
privilege doesn't apply.
565
00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:33,042
For the second time,
566
00:27:33,086 --> 00:27:35,654
you are instructed
to answer the question.
567
00:27:35,697 --> 00:27:40,006
Again-- I apologize
to the court--
568
00:27:40,049 --> 00:27:42,399
but the Confessional Seal
forbids it.
569
00:27:42,443 --> 00:27:44,924
My vow to the Church forbids it.
570
00:27:44,967 --> 00:27:47,013
My oath to God forbids it.
571
00:27:47,056 --> 00:27:48,579
This is your last chance.
572
00:27:48,623 --> 00:27:50,886
If you don't
answer the question,
573
00:27:50,930 --> 00:27:53,106
I will be forced to hold you
in contempt of court.
574
00:27:55,021 --> 00:27:57,588
I'm sorry.
575
00:27:57,632 --> 00:28:00,591
I answer to God and the Vatican.
576
00:28:00,635 --> 00:28:03,812
Unfortunately for you,
this is not a court of God.
577
00:28:03,856 --> 00:28:05,118
This is a court of law.
578
00:28:05,161 --> 00:28:06,902
I'm holding you
in contempt of court.
579
00:28:08,991 --> 00:28:10,993
And because you won't allow
yourself to be cross-examined,
580
00:28:11,037 --> 00:28:12,691
your previous
testimony
581
00:28:12,734 --> 00:28:14,170
is stricken from the record.
582
00:28:14,214 --> 00:28:16,085
Ladies and gentlemen
of the jury,
583
00:28:16,129 --> 00:28:18,044
I instruct you to disregard
the testimony of the defendant
584
00:28:18,087 --> 00:28:19,262
in its entirety.
585
00:28:19,306 --> 00:28:22,048
You will not consider
anything he said
586
00:28:22,091 --> 00:28:23,963
in your deliberations.
587
00:28:24,006 --> 00:28:25,181
Take this man into custody.
588
00:28:40,457 --> 00:28:41,807
I sought out this firm's help
589
00:28:41,850 --> 00:28:44,461
for one reason
and one reason only.
590
00:28:44,505 --> 00:28:46,942
The Church is committed
to protecting
591
00:28:46,986 --> 00:28:50,163
the sanctity
of confession.
592
00:28:50,206 --> 00:28:54,994
We cannot and we will not
allow a secular court
593
00:28:55,037 --> 00:29:00,216
to render 20 centuries of
Catholic sacrament irrelevant.
594
00:29:00,260 --> 00:29:03,002
Monsignor...
595
00:29:03,045 --> 00:29:05,744
But as this trial has commenced,
596
00:29:05,787 --> 00:29:08,007
it has degenerated
597
00:29:08,050 --> 00:29:10,836
from a reasoned conversation
598
00:29:10,879 --> 00:29:14,056
about a treasured
Catholic sacrament
599
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:16,189
into something else entirely.
600
00:29:16,232 --> 00:29:18,800
Into a spectacle.
601
00:29:18,844 --> 00:29:21,455
The news is filled
602
00:29:21,498 --> 00:29:23,805
with revelations
of drunk driving.
603
00:29:23,849 --> 00:29:25,415
A Catholic priest
604
00:29:25,459 --> 00:29:29,115
paraded before the press
in handcuffs.
605
00:29:29,158 --> 00:29:33,075
A growing
public belief
606
00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:36,949
that the Church
is harboring a priest
607
00:29:36,992 --> 00:29:40,822
who is wielding confession
as a shield
608
00:29:40,866 --> 00:29:45,871
behind which to hide
his own criminal behavior.
609
00:29:45,914 --> 00:29:47,873
Well, w-we know how it looks,
but...
610
00:29:47,916 --> 00:29:49,875
the trial isn't over yet.
611
00:29:49,918 --> 00:29:51,659
It is.
612
00:29:51,702 --> 00:29:53,226
For us.
613
00:29:56,229 --> 00:29:57,796
I am sorry,
gentlemen.
614
00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:00,363
I know how hard you've worked.
615
00:30:00,407 --> 00:30:02,757
You're firing us.
No.
616
00:30:02,801 --> 00:30:05,847
I am directing you
to negotiate a plea.
617
00:30:05,891 --> 00:30:07,283
The quicker the better.
618
00:30:07,327 --> 00:30:09,111
The sooner this case
619
00:30:09,155 --> 00:30:11,418
is no longer a part of
the public conversation,
620
00:30:11,461 --> 00:30:13,115
the better it will be
for everyone.
621
00:30:13,159 --> 00:30:15,117
Except possibly Father Andy.
622
00:30:15,161 --> 00:30:16,640
The man's innocent.
623
00:30:16,684 --> 00:30:17,554
Really?
624
00:30:17,598 --> 00:30:18,860
You still believe that,
625
00:30:18,904 --> 00:30:20,862
after everything we heard
in that courtroom?
626
00:30:20,906 --> 00:30:23,038
And you wonder why you don't
see me in church on Sundays.
627
00:30:23,082 --> 00:30:24,474
It's guys like this.
628
00:30:24,518 --> 00:30:26,041
They're with you
through thin and thin.
629
00:30:26,085 --> 00:30:28,739
Don't you dare judge me.
630
00:30:32,091 --> 00:30:33,353
I have
631
00:30:33,396 --> 00:30:37,444
296 parishes
632
00:30:37,487 --> 00:30:39,925
to worry about.
633
00:30:39,968 --> 00:30:42,536
Hey, Benny.
Help your friend out.
634
00:30:42,579 --> 00:30:44,407
I think he's looking
for the high side of the boat.
635
00:30:44,451 --> 00:30:46,366
It's out that door,
down the elevator
636
00:30:46,409 --> 00:30:48,020
and right out onto the street.
637
00:30:48,063 --> 00:30:49,760
And just to be clear...
638
00:30:49,804 --> 00:30:51,632
whether you pay our bill or not,
639
00:30:51,675 --> 00:30:54,026
Benny and I are going to be
representing Father Andy
640
00:30:54,069 --> 00:30:56,115
in court,
defending his innocence.
641
00:30:56,158 --> 00:30:59,858
Because-- and this might be
a novel concept,
642
00:30:59,901 --> 00:31:02,991
but when we make a promise,
643
00:31:03,035 --> 00:31:05,951
when we make a pledge...
644
00:31:05,994 --> 00:31:07,387
we keep it.
645
00:31:19,529 --> 00:31:20,617
Oh, relax.
646
00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:22,010
You're going to be fine.
647
00:31:22,054 --> 00:31:23,403
It's me.
648
00:31:23,446 --> 00:31:24,317
I'm going to hell.
649
00:31:26,406 --> 00:31:28,016
But then again, I always was.
650
00:31:31,890 --> 00:31:33,630
Yes?
Hi. Sorry
to bother you.
651
00:31:33,674 --> 00:31:35,284
My name's Danny James.
652
00:31:35,328 --> 00:31:38,070
I'm an investigator
working on behalf of Father Andy
653
00:31:38,113 --> 00:31:40,115
from St. Bernadine Church.
654
00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:42,161
I'm trying to track down some
information on a hit-and-run
655
00:31:42,204 --> 00:31:44,076
that occurred a few weeks back
on River Road.
656
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:46,339
Oh, of course.
I read about that, yeah.
657
00:31:46,382 --> 00:31:48,254
Have you seen this vehicle?
658
00:31:48,297 --> 00:31:49,951
We have reason to
believe it was actually
659
00:31:49,995 --> 00:31:51,300
parked in front of your house
660
00:31:51,344 --> 00:31:52,823
a little over
a month ago.
661
00:31:52,867 --> 00:31:53,824
Yeah.
662
00:31:53,868 --> 00:31:55,348
Uh, Jacob drove it here.
663
00:31:55,391 --> 00:31:56,784
I think that's his church's.
664
00:31:56,827 --> 00:31:58,003
They let him drive it sometimes.
665
00:31:58,046 --> 00:31:59,482
Jacob?
666
00:31:59,526 --> 00:32:00,396
Jacob Larson.
667
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,529
Oh, um...
668
00:32:02,572 --> 00:32:06,881
We met at church camp
last summer.
669
00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:09,623
He doesn't go to my school
or anything,
670
00:32:09,666 --> 00:32:11,451
but we started
hanging out after that.
671
00:32:11,494 --> 00:32:13,279
Do you still see him?
672
00:32:13,322 --> 00:32:14,889
No.
673
00:32:14,933 --> 00:32:16,586
Not for a few weeks, actually.
674
00:32:18,153 --> 00:32:20,068
It wasn't serious or anything.
675
00:32:20,112 --> 00:32:23,942
Or... maybe I thought it was
more serious than he did.
676
00:32:23,985 --> 00:32:26,379
So, wait. You don't
see him anymore?
677
00:32:26,422 --> 00:32:28,990
He got into Harvard.
678
00:32:29,034 --> 00:32:30,992
And I guess
it kinda changed him.
679
00:32:31,036 --> 00:32:32,994
How so?
680
00:32:33,038 --> 00:32:35,866
Well, the day he got the letter,
he called me.
681
00:32:35,910 --> 00:32:39,566
He was super excited,
because he got in. He got in!
682
00:32:39,609 --> 00:32:44,310
And, um, he wanted to come over
that night and celebrate.
683
00:32:44,353 --> 00:32:47,617
And then he just didn't show up.
684
00:32:47,661 --> 00:32:49,010
And you haven't
talked to him since?
685
00:32:49,054 --> 00:32:51,012
I... called him.
686
00:32:51,056 --> 00:32:52,144
I texted him.
687
00:32:52,187 --> 00:32:55,190
I even DM'd him on Instagram.
688
00:32:55,234 --> 00:32:57,149
And... nothing.
689
00:32:59,673 --> 00:33:00,804
Whatever.
690
00:33:00,848 --> 00:33:01,892
I'm over it.
691
00:33:01,936 --> 00:33:03,111
...and as it happens,
692
00:33:03,155 --> 00:33:04,895
the quickest route
from St. Bernadine's
693
00:33:04,939 --> 00:33:07,333
to Jessica's house
is River Road.
694
00:33:07,376 --> 00:33:10,336
So Jacob would have driven right
by the scene of the accident.
695
00:33:12,338 --> 00:33:15,689
Taylor, when did those Harvard
early admission notices go out?
696
00:33:15,732 --> 00:33:19,432
E-mail notifications went
out Thursday the 29th.
697
00:33:19,475 --> 00:33:20,389
Same day
as the hit-and-run.
698
00:33:20,433 --> 00:33:21,695
So...
699
00:33:21,738 --> 00:33:24,828
Jacob gets into Harvard.
He's thrilled.
700
00:33:24,872 --> 00:33:27,222
He's on his way over
to see his girl,
701
00:33:27,266 --> 00:33:28,963
he hits Morgan.
He panics.
702
00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:30,486
Turns around,
heads back to the church,
703
00:33:30,530 --> 00:33:33,185
and afterwards,
he is scared and guilt-ridden,
704
00:33:33,228 --> 00:33:35,709
and cuts off all contact
with Jessica.
705
00:33:35,752 --> 00:33:37,624
So... we cracked the case,
right?
706
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:42,237
Still waiting for
our "attagirls."
707
00:33:42,281 --> 00:33:44,326
Well, I wouldn't say
you cracked it.
708
00:33:44,370 --> 00:33:46,067
More like dinged
it a little.
709
00:33:46,111 --> 00:33:49,070
It's great, but not enough
to save Father Andy.
710
00:33:49,114 --> 00:33:51,681
No.
711
00:33:51,725 --> 00:33:53,205
No, actually, we don't.
712
00:33:53,248 --> 00:33:55,250
It's just a theory.
713
00:33:55,294 --> 00:33:57,513
We can't actually prove anything
714
00:33:57,557 --> 00:34:01,822
other than this Jacob
got into Harvard.
715
00:34:01,865 --> 00:34:04,694
What else do we know
about this Jacob?
716
00:34:04,738 --> 00:34:06,870
Lives with his mom,
straight-A student.
717
00:34:06,914 --> 00:34:08,437
Spends a lot of time
at church
718
00:34:08,481 --> 00:34:10,352
and volunteering,
and has never been in trouble.
719
00:34:10,396 --> 00:34:12,093
So he's a good kid.
720
00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:14,226
Not a cold-blooded killer.
721
00:34:14,269 --> 00:34:16,793
Just someone who
made a horrible mistake.
722
00:34:16,837 --> 00:34:20,406
Got to be... scared.
723
00:34:20,449 --> 00:34:22,190
Riddled with guilt.
724
00:34:22,234 --> 00:34:23,452
Dying to talk.
725
00:34:23,496 --> 00:34:25,280
So what are you thinking?
726
00:34:25,324 --> 00:34:28,066
I'm thinking this kid confessed
once before;
727
00:34:28,109 --> 00:34:30,416
maybe we can get him
to do it again.
728
00:34:42,776 --> 00:34:44,169
Can I help you?
729
00:34:44,212 --> 00:34:46,562
Funny, I was about to
ask you the same thing.
730
00:34:46,606 --> 00:34:48,651
Uh, I think you might be
in the wrong place.
731
00:34:48,695 --> 00:34:50,175
I'm setting up
for a youth group.
732
00:34:50,218 --> 00:34:51,785
There's a bulletin board outside
in the hall
733
00:34:51,828 --> 00:34:53,134
that lists everything else
that's going on.
734
00:34:53,178 --> 00:34:55,397
Nope. I'm in the right place.
735
00:34:55,441 --> 00:34:57,443
You're Jacob, right?
736
00:34:59,619 --> 00:35:00,924
My name's Dr. Jason Bull.
737
00:35:00,968 --> 00:35:02,578
I'm part of Father Andy's
legal team.
738
00:35:04,667 --> 00:35:05,929
I don't know if you've heard,
739
00:35:05,973 --> 00:35:07,235
but things aren't going
very well.
740
00:35:07,279 --> 00:35:09,324
How do you mean?
741
00:35:09,368 --> 00:35:11,631
He's a priest.
742
00:35:11,674 --> 00:35:14,808
Everyone knows he would never...Everybody knows what
they're told. Hmm?
743
00:35:14,851 --> 00:35:17,898
Father Andy was driving the van.
744
00:35:17,941 --> 00:35:21,293
He'd had a drink,
and a woman died.
745
00:35:21,336 --> 00:35:25,732
will he go to prison
746
00:35:25,775 --> 00:35:28,430
for 15 years or
will it be 20?
747
00:35:28,474 --> 00:35:32,782
Will he die in prison or will he
live long enough to get out
748
00:35:32,826 --> 00:35:35,568
and have a few years of freedom?
749
00:35:38,223 --> 00:35:40,921
My guess is
it was a horrible accident.
750
00:35:40,964 --> 00:35:43,097
What's your guess?
751
00:35:47,101 --> 00:35:50,235
It was an e-mail from Harvard's
Office of Admissions.
752
00:35:50,278 --> 00:35:53,020
It said that I got in.
753
00:35:53,063 --> 00:35:55,457
Harvard.
754
00:35:55,501 --> 00:35:57,372
That's quite an accomplishment.
755
00:35:57,416 --> 00:36:00,723
You must have been very excited,
very proud.
756
00:36:00,767 --> 00:36:03,422
I was.
757
00:36:03,465 --> 00:36:06,207
And I was really grateful.
758
00:36:06,251 --> 00:36:08,905
I had got a lot of help.
759
00:36:08,949 --> 00:36:11,691
Encouragement from... my mom.
760
00:36:11,734 --> 00:36:14,172
People at the church.
761
00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:18,480
I'm the first person
in my family to go to college.
762
00:36:18,524 --> 00:36:21,701
Or, uh, would have been.
763
00:36:21,744 --> 00:36:24,660
I'm guessing
you wanted to celebrate.
764
00:36:24,704 --> 00:36:27,881
I was dating this girl, Jessica.
765
00:36:30,144 --> 00:36:33,930
I thought maybe
we could do something.
766
00:36:33,974 --> 00:36:37,804
Nothing big, you know.
Just... hang out.
767
00:36:37,847 --> 00:36:42,504
I didn't have any money
for an Uber or a taxi,
768
00:36:42,548 --> 00:36:44,550
or anything.
769
00:36:44,593 --> 00:36:47,205
And I-- St. Bernadine's
is just down the street.
770
00:36:47,248 --> 00:36:49,032
And I knew the van
would be there.
771
00:36:49,076 --> 00:36:52,645
And that wasn't the first time
you borrowed the van, was it?
772
00:36:52,688 --> 00:36:55,169
No, I had...
773
00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:58,041
taken it twice before
to see Jessica.
774
00:36:58,085 --> 00:37:01,044
And what happened
after you borrowed the van?
775
00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:08,356
I was driving...
776
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,793
and I got a text.
777
00:37:10,837 --> 00:37:14,319
It wasn't even... really for me.
778
00:37:14,362 --> 00:37:17,235
It was just an ad
for some stupid game.
779
00:37:20,542 --> 00:37:21,848
And there was a thud.
780
00:37:23,676 --> 00:37:25,417
At first I thought
it was a deer.
781
00:37:28,463 --> 00:37:31,031
But then I looked up.
782
00:37:32,293 --> 00:37:34,774
And what did you do?
783
00:37:38,647 --> 00:37:41,998
I didn't do anything.
784
00:37:42,042 --> 00:37:44,218
I knew I should,
I should get out.
785
00:37:44,262 --> 00:37:46,438
Help her, but...
786
00:37:46,481 --> 00:37:48,570
I didn't.
787
00:37:48,614 --> 00:37:50,920
So you just sat there.
788
00:37:50,964 --> 00:37:53,314
I turned around...
789
00:37:53,358 --> 00:37:56,839
and I started driving
back to the church.
790
00:37:56,883 --> 00:38:01,061
I just...
791
00:38:01,104 --> 00:38:04,630
I wanted to get out of that van.
792
00:38:04,673 --> 00:38:07,894
I wanted to make it
not have happened.
793
00:38:07,937 --> 00:38:11,724
I'd just gotten the best
news of my life.
794
00:38:11,767 --> 00:38:13,856
So you got back
to the church...
795
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:17,730
And I'm standing
in the parking lot.
796
00:38:17,773 --> 00:38:19,993
I'm looking at the dent.
797
00:38:20,036 --> 00:38:23,213
The blood.
798
00:38:24,780 --> 00:38:27,174
And there's Father Andy.
799
00:38:27,217 --> 00:38:31,483
It was like
God had already told him.
800
00:38:34,094 --> 00:38:37,924
He said God would
forgive me for anything,
801
00:38:37,967 --> 00:38:41,057
but I needed to confess.
802
00:38:41,101 --> 00:38:43,625
So I did.
803
00:38:43,669 --> 00:38:47,325
And then, he tried to get me
to call the police.
804
00:38:47,368 --> 00:38:52,155
But all I could think of
was my mom and my friends
805
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:55,333
and my future.
806
00:38:55,376 --> 00:38:59,772
I'm... so, so sorry.
807
00:38:59,815 --> 00:39:03,558
I-I never meant to hurt
your sister, your daughter.
808
00:39:03,602 --> 00:39:06,735
Anyone. Not my mom.
809
00:39:06,779 --> 00:39:09,434
Not Father Andy.
810
00:39:09,477 --> 00:39:13,046
No further questions,
Your Honor.
811
00:39:13,089 --> 00:39:15,440
Mr. Madden, any questions?
812
00:39:19,008 --> 00:39:21,881
Your Honor, in light of
this testimony,
813
00:39:21,924 --> 00:39:25,624
we'd like to dismiss the charges
against Father Andrew Tincher.
814
00:39:25,667 --> 00:39:27,800
And we'd also like to
seek an arrest warrant
815
00:39:27,843 --> 00:39:30,977
for Jacob Larson in the felony
hit-and-run of Morgan Newhouse.
816
00:39:31,020 --> 00:39:33,501
So ordered.
817
00:39:49,256 --> 00:39:51,301
Just so you know, we're
gonna do everything we can
818
00:39:51,345 --> 00:39:54,043
to get Jacob the
best deal possible.
819
00:39:56,394 --> 00:39:58,134
You'd think
after all these years,
820
00:39:58,178 --> 00:40:02,400
I'd have a better grasp
on how God works.
821
00:40:02,443 --> 00:40:05,664
Still a mystery.
822
00:40:05,707 --> 00:40:07,753
I was watching Jacob
on the stand,
823
00:40:07,796 --> 00:40:12,148
and I...
I just kept wondering
824
00:40:12,192 --> 00:40:15,325
maybe I'm just supposed to
plead guilty.
825
00:40:15,369 --> 00:40:19,460
You don't really
believe that.
826
00:40:19,504 --> 00:40:22,463
But you were willing to
do it, weren't you?
827
00:40:22,507 --> 00:40:25,031
Give up one or two
decades of your life.
828
00:40:25,074 --> 00:40:27,860
Walk all alone into a prison
for someone else.
829
00:40:27,903 --> 00:40:31,429
I... I wouldn't have been alone.
830
00:40:35,389 --> 00:40:37,391
I envy you.
831
00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:39,611
You envy me?
832
00:40:39,654 --> 00:40:43,179
Had myself a little heart
attack about six months ago
833
00:40:43,223 --> 00:40:44,398
on the courthouse steps.
834
00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:45,617
Not this courthouse...
835
00:40:45,660 --> 00:40:47,793
I never would have known.
836
00:40:49,534 --> 00:40:53,146
Funny thing is,
I was lying there,
837
00:40:53,189 --> 00:40:56,236
ridiculous pain,
middle of the day,
838
00:40:56,279 --> 00:41:00,588
people... walking by.
839
00:41:00,632 --> 00:41:03,983
Mm-hmm.
840
00:41:04,026 --> 00:41:07,247
And I looked up and I
didn't see any angels,
841
00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:08,944
I didn't see...
842
00:41:08,988 --> 00:41:13,906
some glorious white light.
843
00:41:13,949 --> 00:41:16,865
I just saw a
patch of blue sky.
844
00:41:19,215 --> 00:41:24,177
I was dying in the
middle of New York City...
845
00:41:24,220 --> 00:41:26,658
and I was all alone.
846
00:41:26,701 --> 00:41:29,225
Ah.
847
00:41:29,269 --> 00:41:32,620
Yeah, I envy you.
848
00:41:32,664 --> 00:41:35,884
You're never
alone, are you?
849
00:41:35,928 --> 00:41:39,148
No, I'm not.
850
00:41:41,673 --> 00:41:44,153
You know, Dr. Bull,
851
00:41:44,197 --> 00:41:47,156
you could have that, too.
852
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,246
There's always a place
at the church for you.
853
00:41:50,290 --> 00:41:53,989
You know, I'd be pleased to
help you find the way.
854
00:41:54,033 --> 00:41:57,906
Well, that's a very
tempting offer, Father.
855
00:41:57,950 --> 00:42:01,954
The thing is, as
I'm sure you know,
856
00:42:01,997 --> 00:42:03,912
God moves people
in mysterious ways.
857
00:42:03,956 --> 00:42:05,305
Uh-huh.
858
00:42:05,348 --> 00:42:07,960
The way he moves me,
I just cannot
859
00:42:08,003 --> 00:42:10,571
drag my butt out of bed
on a Sunday morning.
860
00:42:10,615 --> 00:42:12,355
But like you said...
861
00:42:12,399 --> 00:42:16,229
who are we to question
how God works?
862
00:42:16,272 --> 00:42:19,667
You know you're going
to hell, right?
863
00:42:19,711 --> 00:42:22,844
Yup. Already
booked my suite.
864
00:42:25,499 --> 00:42:27,283
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