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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,320 This programme contains some strong language, 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,640 some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting, and deals with suicide and self-harm. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,360 I was just 16 when I appeared on X Factor, and suddenly became known 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,600 to so many people. And though I didn't realise it then, 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,320 within four years I would be an alcoholic. 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,080 Thankfully, I'm in active recovery, but the number of alcohol-related 7 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:24,720 deaths among women in Northern Ireland is at an all-time high, 8 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,760 and increasing faster here than anywhere else in the UK. 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,800 With medical experts expressing alarm at the increase in consumption 10 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:39,400 of alcohol by young women, alcohol abuse is costing the public here 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,400 a staggering £900 million every year. 12 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:44,560 Hey, guys. 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,360 So I'm working on a really, really exciting project. 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,080 My fans have been incredible through my continued journey 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,640 out of addiction... 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,920 If you are in active addiction, recovery, 17 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,760 concerned about your drinking, or just rethinking 18 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,760 your relationship with alcohol, then please, hit me up. 19 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,160 ..but why are so many young women succumbing to alcohol abuse? 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,240 What are their stories, 21 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,440 and what can they do to fight their addictions? 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,400 I want to reach out and discover what's happening 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,440 with young women and alcohol. 24 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,920 You're making me scared! What's your name? 25 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,560 My name is Janet Devlin. 26 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,120 I'm 16 and I'm from Tyrone in Northern Ireland. 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,680 How are you feeling about this? Er, nervous! 28 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,680 I bet you are! 29 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:49,440 This is the full X Factor audition I did back in 2011. 30 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,760 It's literally been so long since I watched this that I forgot 31 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,280 just how much of a baby I was when I did it. 32 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,040 Like, I didn't realise, like, 16 was, like, that young 33 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,760 to do a show like that. 34 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:11,760 # It's a little bit funny, this feeling inside... # 35 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,240 Your Song. The song I still sing to this day. 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,680 Honest to God, there's not a gig goes by where people 37 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,800 don't ask for that. 38 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,800 SHE CHUCKLES 39 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,200 You can literally see... 40 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,800 ..how petrified I am the whole way through this. 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Aw, my wee mummy. 42 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,920 Aw! 43 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:47,960 For me, the X Factor was, in equal parts, 44 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:54,040 the best decision of my life, and the hardest part of my life. 45 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:01,680 I was a child. I was 16, and it was terrifying. 46 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,440 Like, there's no way to prepare yourself for your life 47 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,880 changing overnight. 48 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,920 There's no way to prepare yourself for getting online abuse 49 00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:14,720 from adults. It was hard. 50 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,800 You know, if I was to open up in those days and say, 51 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,760 "Oh, I'm really struggling, I actually really need help," 52 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:27,640 or just admitting at the time that I really was struggling to, 53 00:03:27,640 --> 00:03:29,800 you know, even be alive, 54 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:33,080 the dialogue around mental health wasn't there. 55 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,760 So I just never said it. 56 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,720 Kept it private, kept it buried deep down. 57 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,840 At the time of leaving the show and doing all of the gigs 58 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,640 and touring and travelling, like, I had good money at the time. 59 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,240 I drank it all. 60 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:57,440 So I started as someone who drank to overcome social anxiety, 61 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,640 to feel comfortable in my own skin. 62 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,960 You know, you're the life of the party kind of thing, 63 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:03,720 when you've had a drink. 64 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,720 But eventually it stops being fun. 65 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,640 You know, I drank myself out of fun, into dependence, 66 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,280 and ruined it for myself, essentially. 67 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,720 I just made my life a living hell, and I made the life of everyone 68 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,080 around me who was trying to, like, work for me or work with me, 69 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,120 a living hell and a living misery as well. 70 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:34,680 I remember my mum crying, screaming at me once, 71 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:41,600 just being like, "How does it feel to be 19, 72 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,880 "and be an alcoholic?" 73 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,840 And she just...she was at her breaking point. 74 00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:53,240 She was just waiting on the phone call to say that I'd passed away. 75 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:56,120 Um... 76 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:03,840 That, now, as a sober person, is absolutely just a disgusting 77 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:07,280 and sad and terrifying thought. 78 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:10,640 And I can't imagine being a mother trying to navigate that world. 79 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,080 So, that was the reality. 80 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,840 She was just waiting for that phone call. 81 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,200 Although my story feels unique to me, 82 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,280 I know that an increasing number of women have had similar experiences. 83 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,040 I've come to Bangor to meet 25-year-old Zoe, who was an addict 84 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,720 by the time she was 18. 85 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:40,240 Hiya. Hello, how are you? 86 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,200 I'm good, thank you. How are you doing? 87 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,520 Yeah, good. Do you want to come in? Ah, thank you. 88 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,440 Where did your addiction story start? 89 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,480 So I was quite young, about 13, 14. 90 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,400 I started dabbling. 91 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,640 I came from a really strict school in England. 92 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,000 My mum moved me over here for a better way of life. Yeah. 93 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,600 It just didn't go to plan. 94 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,600 No. So it didn't. 95 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,840 She always tried to do right by me. She did. 96 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,960 But she was very strict and very by the book. 97 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,320 And I think that's why I rebelled as much as I did. 98 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,960 Do you think the move had any impact on your drinking and using? 99 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,560 Definitely. 100 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,560 Like, I definitely tried to make myself likeable. 101 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,280 You know, to fit in. 102 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:31,640 And because I was the new girl and, you know, new girl in school, 103 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,400 new girl in a different country, you know. 104 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,760 I was stripped away from everything and everyone that I ever knew. 105 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:44,000 It just got worse, the older I got. I completely flunked school. 106 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,680 That was when I then started on the legals. 107 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,800 So I was smoking legal highs, I was taking like Microdots, 108 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,560 legal Es, going to raves. 109 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,320 And I was trying to forget the dark thoughts and the demons 110 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:06,520 in my head and mask them with something that made me feel good. 111 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,520 And then... 112 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:13,920 ..that was when I went really downhill, between 16, 17. 113 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,160 I was going between, like, sleeping rough, 114 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,280 friends' sofas, strangers' sofas. 115 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,800 And, yeah, I'd done a bit of time on the streets. 116 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,240 I've had people walk past and spit on me. 117 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,240 I've had people walk past and kick me. 118 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,400 I've had, you know, just for the craic, just because they can, 119 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,400 you know. 120 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,560 I've done unthinkable things 121 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,080 like stealing and all, 122 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,400 and burnt so many bridges with people that you feel like 123 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:51,760 you can't come back from. 124 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,960 Yeah, things can get quite dark and scary, quite quick. 125 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,480 I look back now and I'm like, I don't know how I'm still alive, 126 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,000 if I'm being honest. 127 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,400 We would have drank up on the pier, like up on these wee bits. 128 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,240 And then if we were going to take anything, 129 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,160 we would have gone under... 130 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,000 You would've actually gone under the bridge to use? 131 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,240 Yeah. Wow. You see, cos it's on the doorstep. Yeah. 132 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,800 It's not the first time I've been down, you know, since... 133 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,440 ..but it's obviously the first time coming back and reminiscing 134 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,080 about the bad times. The bad days! Yeah. They weren't really good, 135 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,840 were they? Well, they were at the time, I think. 136 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,640 At the time, you think everything's good, 137 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,360 and everything's great, 138 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,080 and it's not until you come out of it and you get the help 139 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:49,240 and you realise, no, actually, that was that was way worse than... 140 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,560 Yeah. ..you could even explain to anyone, you know? 141 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,120 No, I do have mental health problems. 142 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,600 I have BPD - borderline personality disorder. 143 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:04,240 Because I'm the same, I have the BPD. Yeah. 144 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:08,920 I'm on anti-psychotics now, which sounds scary, yeah. 145 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,280 I know the feeling, because I'm currently on anti-psychotics myself. 146 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,960 Yeah? Yeah. So, you know... Whenever you're first told, 147 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,000 like, you have to go on anti-psychotics, you're like... 148 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,280 I'm psychotic?! OK?! Yeah, yeah, yeah. 149 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,640 And, yeah, it was, it was really, it was daunting, 150 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,440 it was scary, but see since being on them, 151 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,400 I do feel like a different person. 152 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,480 I see things differently. 153 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:41,440 I am not as irrational, I'm not as impulsive. 154 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,240 That's a big one. Yeah. 155 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,560 When you've got mental health problems as well, which most people 156 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:49,560 with addiction issues have... They tend to do, yeah. 157 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:52,280 Yeah! ..you're battling not only the addiction, 158 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,040 but you're battling your mental health at the same time. 159 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,840 At the same time. And it is just like... 160 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,080 You don't know what one to listen to. 161 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,560 Yeah. But I've worked hard... You have, and it shows. 162 00:10:02,560 --> 00:10:07,240 ..to get to where I am today. And I'm glad, I'm glad it does show, 163 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,320 because, you know, for the first time in... 164 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:16,640 ..a good chunk of my life, I'm able to say I'm proud of myself. 165 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,760 You know, I've been through shit in the past, but I've came out of it 166 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,960 the other end, you know. I've... 167 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,480 I have, and I've done it! Yeah. 168 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,200 You know. I'm just crying, like... Don't, you'll set me off! 169 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,440 Zoe's story has really struck a chord with me. 170 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,480 She's still such a young woman, but has already gone through 171 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,640 some really tough times. 172 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,160 Above all, I'm impressed by her resilience and ability 173 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,080 to ask for help at such a young age, 174 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,120 and the way she has faced up to issues around her mental health. 175 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,680 Something that, like me, she had to do 176 00:10:52,680 --> 00:10:55,040 in order to confront her addiction. 177 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,960 I got a message from a girl called Tamsin, who has said, 178 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,320 "I don't know if you'll see this message, but I've seen your post 179 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,440 "about addiction, about telling people their stories. 180 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,000 "My mammy also struggled with addiction, mainly alcoholism. 181 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,120 "I live in Derry, and I would love to tell you my story some time." 182 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,280 Oh, she said, "My mammy actually passed away this year 183 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,040 "on the 16th of January due to addiction." 184 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,360 That's really sad. 185 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,160 "Hey, Tamsin. 186 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,800 "Thanks so much for reaching out. 187 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,360 "I'd love to talk. 188 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,960 "So sorry to hear about your mum." 189 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,320 Since her mum died, 18-year-old Tamsin has been helping her dad 190 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,560 to raise her two younger sisters. 191 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:05,040 But I'm so glad she's reached out to me. 192 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,720 I actually messaged Janet. I messaged her. 193 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,680 Just said I'm looking forward to meeting her. 194 00:12:10,680 --> 00:12:13,520 I didn't think she would get back to us yet. 195 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,960 I remember when she came on The X Factor and she sang Your Song 196 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,760 by Elton John and, oh, my God, I fell in love with it, you know. 197 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,000 Her voice singing that song, it just matched so well. 198 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,880 And my mummy actually took me to the X Factor tour. 199 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,320 My mummy, like, always felt well bad because she had a wee fall 200 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,400 because she drunk a wee bit too much. 201 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,000 But that's something that ate my mummy up too, 202 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,080 for doing that to me. 203 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,960 But, aye, I remember seeing Janet on The X Factor. 204 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,040 The box even smells like her. 205 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,600 I swear, I can smell her. Her perfume. 206 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,480 My mummy only ever wanted three babies, 207 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,960 so Lula May was her last wee child to be born. Lula May's her wee baby. 208 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,920 My daddy's all smiley, to have three girls! 209 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,360 We were just all so happy. Our family jigsaw was completed there. 210 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,000 We were whole. 211 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:26,440 We had everything then. The main thing we had was each other. 212 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,960 She tried countless times to get help back then. 213 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,000 They went to rehab centres, 214 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,320 she went to a well lot of counselling as well. 215 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:43,120 And I remember her saying to me loads and loads of times that, 216 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:46,600 "I don't want to be this way, and I just want to be sober. 217 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:48,960 "I just don't want this kind of life, 218 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,160 "a life that's so similar to hell. 219 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,080 "I don't want it." 220 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,480 The last post she ever replied to, on the 6th of January, 221 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,280 was actually my post, 222 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,000 I wrote on her wall, "Love you, Mummy." 223 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,400 And then she wrote wee hearts under it, 224 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,960 four wee hearts and a wee X. 225 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,200 I kept writing on her wall, just in case she grabbed her phone 226 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,200 and was, like, looking through her Facebook. 227 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,480 and I put up another wee post. 228 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,240 "Me and the two girls love you more than you will ever know, 229 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,720 "our rock." And a wee picture of me and my sisters and my mummy. 230 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,440 And another one. This is 13th of January now. 231 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,640 "Your girls love you more than you know." 232 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:35,160 Just hoping she would see it and something would cha... 233 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,160 ..just...something would happen. 234 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,760 The day my mummy died, I got a phone call, 235 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,000 it was from my two cousins. 236 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,760 They were screaming on the phone, crying. 237 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,840 They were all, "I think your mummy's dead." 238 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,920 So I jumped into the car and ran down, 239 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,760 and I was all, "Where's my mummy?" 240 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,360 I went into the living room. 241 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,080 And there my mummy was just sitting lifeless on the sofa. 242 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:16,320 I just rushed over to her and hugged her and kissed her. 243 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,000 And I just couldn't believe it, 244 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,400 like, all my family sitting round her and... 245 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,560 I don't want to have that life, no. 246 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,800 When I have weans of my own, 247 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,720 I don't want my weans to see what I had to see, 248 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,680 because I shouldn't have seen it. 249 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,400 Hiya! Hi. So nice to finally meet you. 250 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,080 You too! How are you doing? Good. Aye, all good? Good. 251 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,400 So, when it comes to addiction, how do you feel towards it? 252 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,480 Are you angry at it? 253 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,560 Are you upset at it? Like, what's your main feeling 254 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,480 when you think about what addiction's done to your life? 255 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,440 I'm all kind of mixed emotions. 256 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,080 Some days I'll be angry. Some days I'll be so upset. 257 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,160 But the main one is kind of anger, because it took my mummy. 258 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,960 You feel a wee bit out of sync with the world. Mm. 259 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,320 Like, you don't know... 260 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,440 Like, with my mummy gone now, like, 261 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,080 it feels like you don't know, like, your kind of purpose, 262 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,440 because she's not here. 263 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,600 And I just... I don't feel myself at all. Yeah. 264 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,080 And what responsibilities have you been left now 265 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,480 since your mummy passed away? 266 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,480 My two wee sisters are my main responsibility. 267 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,800 Like, they're 11 and 8. Wow. 268 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,560 Aye. Young girls, then. 269 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,280 Aye, really young. 270 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,400 Didn't deserve what happened to them. Yeah. 271 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,680 So what kind of alcoholic was your mum? 272 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,560 When I was, say, about seven or eight, a weekend drinker. 273 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,840 Like, a drink on a Saturday, maybe 274 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,280 the odd wee day in the weekdays, if she wasn't doing anything. 275 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,840 Or had nothing to do. 276 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,520 But then it just progressed that bit more. 277 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,040 When she drunk, it was hardcore, like. 278 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,040 She would drink vodka, like. 279 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,040 Litre bottles, ten glasses. 280 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,040 And she would drink raw vodka to get that quicker hit. Yeah. 281 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,280 She would barely mix it. Mm. 282 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,480 Do you ever just want to just have your childhood years back? 283 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,680 Aye, it's annoying, like. I had to grow up too quickly. 284 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,640 And even my mummy said that to me before, when she was here, like. 285 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,440 She knows herself that I had to grow up too quickly. 286 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,360 I shouldn't have, like. I had to see stuff that no-one should see. 287 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:30,920 Yeah. 288 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,880 How did it feel for you to watch the damage your mum was doing, 289 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:39,920 not only to your family, but also like physically to herself? 290 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,200 You just feel helpless. 291 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,880 You have to sit in the sidelines, you know, but you try and try 292 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,440 with your love. Sometimes your love just, 293 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,320 it can't make it happen. I can't make her be the person 294 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,720 you want her to be. But I still showed my love anyway. 295 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,320 I was angry with her at times, of course. 296 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,600 I was sad. As I said, again, all mixed emotions 297 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,360 when my mummy was drinking. 298 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:05,280 But the main thing I had is show her this love, still. 299 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,360 Mm. It's difficult to hear it from the other perspective, 300 00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:11,960 and just how quickly you've had to grow up in comparison to me, 301 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:16,200 just constantly trying to be a child and just drink myself silly, like. 302 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,720 It's...it's really tough and I just really feel for you. 303 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,920 And, like, I don't even, I don't even know how that responsibility 304 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,480 must feel for you. 305 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:38,280 I'm just absolutely blown away with how strong she is, 306 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:43,200 through all of that, through the years of exposure to alcoholism 307 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,800 from such a young age. Like, how she can be so, 308 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,680 not just eloquently spoken with her feelings towards it, 309 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,200 but how she's, you know, still managing to keep it together. 310 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,200 Like, I just, I can't even imagine what she's actually been through, 311 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,200 because I've only ever been on the other side of it, you know? 312 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,840 Hearing stories about other people's alcoholism, 313 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,240 or how alcoholism has affected them in their life, 314 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,800 is actually one of the best things for an alcoholic to be exposed to, 315 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:34,000 because it reminds you that you are literally just an arm's length away 316 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,480 from causing that chaos in your own life again. 317 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,800 So in the spirit of honestly and candidly talking 318 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,400 about experiences with alcoholism, I think it's only right 319 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,960 that I sit down and talk to my own mother 320 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,360 about how I impacted her life. 321 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:53,640 Because it's very easy for me to sit here and talk 322 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,200 about how it affected mine. 323 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,160 Whereas realistically, like, alcoholism is a family illness 324 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,080 and it really, really did impact those closest to me, 325 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,640 and my mum being probably the biggest person I hurt. 326 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,080 This is the Gortin Glen, 327 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:24,920 and we are around a mile away from Gortin, which is where I grew up. 328 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,120 Hello! Hiya. 329 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,920 INDISTINCT CHATTER 330 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:46,960 Chill out! 331 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:49,920 Oh, I missed you. 332 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,240 Every alcoholic is capable of lying. 333 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,720 It's just, like, part and parcel of the disease. 334 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,600 She was a professional liar. 335 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,600 In relation to drink, where drink was concerned. 336 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:15,560 Would not admit, you would not admit to having a problem at all. 337 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,040 And I was left in a very sticky situation 338 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,480 because the manager would contact me, 339 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,440 but there was very little I could do unless I was over there. 340 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:29,200 And even then, sure, I mean, she still hoodwinked me. 341 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:33,480 There were so many of those phone calls from my manager to my mum. 342 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,240 And obviously a lot of them I wasn't privy to. 343 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,560 Like, I didn't know they were going on at all. So... 344 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,360 Everyone seemed to know I had a problem but me at the time. 345 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:46,920 The way she was going on, I think you'd have thought 346 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,200 that she had missed a couple of years and was making up 347 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,720 as a teenager drinking. 348 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:58,120 But then the phone calls became more, and the stories became more, 349 00:21:58,120 --> 00:22:01,160 and the list of drinking became more. 350 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,000 And not turning up for sessions. 351 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,800 And he'd be ringing me, I had a full-time job. 352 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,840 There was many a day I had to leave work, arrange a flight, 353 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,720 and head straight to England. 354 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,120 I was angry, I was cross. I was... 355 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:25,000 How do you get to this point in your life? 356 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:28,600 I suppose you just think, "Oh, there's a quick fix for it." 357 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,920 But there's no quick fix for it. 358 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,240 Whenever she hadn't been in touch for about three days, 359 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,600 to me, if she was at the house not answering the door, 360 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,440 she could have been lying in her vomit. You know, that type of way. 361 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,720 You know, she could have died. 362 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:55,840 The fear always was there of death, eventually, you know, 363 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,920 if she didn't seek help or get help. 364 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,040 I suppose in a way I dealt with it the best I could. 365 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,680 I think every mother wants the best for their child. 366 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,760 I do still carry trauma and worry for Janet. 367 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,840 There's times that you wonder, is she OK? 368 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,680 Or will she revert back? You know, you just don't know. 369 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,320 But now I have my confidence in her, but there's always a piece in the 370 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,240 back of your head thinking, is this... 371 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,640 ..would something trigger it again? 372 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,320 But fair play to her, she hasn't, she hasn't done that. 373 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,080 All I have is my story and my experience, 374 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,840 and how it actually was for me. 375 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,080 SPEAKING ON VIDEO: There are so many ways I can film this intro. 376 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,280 But the quickest one is just to say, 377 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,840 "Hi, I'm Janet, and I'm an alcoholic." 378 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,560 So to finally, like, lift the veil and just tell people what 379 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,880 my actual truth was, was the most liberating and freeing feeling ever. 380 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,560 I knew I was an alcoholic when I was 20. 381 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,320 The reaction was just so positive. 382 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,160 There was definitely, like, a wave of people... 383 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,400 ..kind of maybe coming to the realisation that they also 384 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,200 had a problem, from watching it. 385 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,720 You empathise a lot with these people, 386 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,440 because you've also been there. 387 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,000 I think one of the things I really liked about the comments was 388 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,440 people that are getting sober are just like, 389 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,160 "Oh, I'm one week sober." 390 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,040 And just all the comments are just like, 391 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,440 "Congratulations, that's so good!" 392 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,880 And I think that kind of stuff, like, warms my heart, 393 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,800 because I just know the specialness, or the days, like, 394 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,920 how hard it is to get, like, a week or to get a month. 395 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,360 And I just feel like the comments are so positive and so nice 396 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:03,040 that it's like, 397 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,760 I don't think they understand by responding to those comments, 398 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,840 it's like, "Well done, you've got this!" 399 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,200 Like how much that means to someone in the early days 400 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,880 of recovery, you know. 401 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,920 It's hard going back over this time in my life. 402 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,880 And the terrible thing is that many others have similar experiences. 403 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,320 I'm in Belfast to meet 31-year-old Sian. 404 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,520 Like me, her recovery started in a rehab programme. 405 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,400 So I want to hear what life is like for her after rehab 406 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,360 and how she's coping with her sobriety. 407 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,800 What's the most you've been in a day? Twice? Twice. 408 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,120 Because you can't get any more. It's basically I go to the gym too 409 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:53,000 cos I'm not a really good sleeper. 410 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,920 But I'm still stuck in a routine from rehab, 411 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,240 getting up in at 6:15 every morning. Yeah, yeah. And then having to do... 412 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,560 Because I never understood within there. 413 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,120 I was like, "Why is this at this time, 414 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:05,880 "and why have you to do this, and why are you not allowed to do that?" 415 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,040 Because addicts never had a routine in a long time. Yeah. 416 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,760 And it was all because of the routine. 417 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,440 Then I'm still getting up at that time. Do you like the routine? 418 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,160 Yeah. Cos I love routine. So do I. Yeah. 419 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,200 Cos people feel very trapped by routine. 420 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,760 But I feel like addicts, they're like, "Oh, my God, this is..." 421 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,200 You need it, because obviously addiction, 422 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,640 or when I drank, you just went by the day as long as you had a drink. 423 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,280 Yeah, literally. There's no routine then. Are you ready? Yeah, awesome. 424 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,160 Did you get your water? Yeah. 425 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,160 Where do you want...? There? Yeah. 426 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,320 So I put the incline up, you know, really high. 427 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,600 So I just put it right up to the top. 428 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,840 Growing up, I gave my mummy a hard time. I know I did. 429 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,760 I just went completely off the rails before I had the kids. 430 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,800 And then my last week before I went into rehab, 431 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,200 I didn't want to be here. Yeah. I was like, no. 432 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,960 And there's no way out of this. And I made a self referral myself. Yeah. 433 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,440 And because of the lockdown, they were like, 434 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,920 "Sian, we're not taking anybody in at the minute." 435 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,120 And I was like, "Please, take me in." Yeah. 436 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,000 I had them tortured, Janet, like. Mm. See when I went in there, 437 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,760 they were like, "Can you remember phoning me crying, drunk?" 438 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,960 And I would say, no. Yeah. But it's been the best outcome ever, like. 439 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,280 Yeah. 440 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,160 At the end there I was drinking, 441 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,800 and I wasn't giving myself time to have a hangover, 442 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,400 I was drinking as soon as I woke up again. 443 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,320 It was really, really bad. 444 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,880 I always made sure I looked OK whenever I was drinking. 445 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,760 But then when I look back at pictures, I was like... 446 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,440 Cos I started losing my hair and my skin was going a really bad colour. 447 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,880 And then, when I look back, 448 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,640 I do feel really sad at how bad it ended up. 449 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,840 Because I was actually secretly drinking as well. 450 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,920 I was letting on I wasn't drinking, 451 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,760 so I was hiding it in like the cupboards. 452 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,000 And then in rehab I did have to feel like I grieved over alcohol 453 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,920 a wee bit, cos I felt like I'd lost a friend. Yeah. 454 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,400 Cos I depended on it so much. You mourn. Yeah. 455 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,680 I couldn't see the kids for three months, or my family, 456 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,840 because of lockdown. So I only got one 15-minute phone call a week. 457 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,840 I looked forward every single week 458 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,800 for that one phone call off the kids. 459 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,320 I had to build a brand-new life as soon as I got out of rehab. 460 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,120 Everything was so different. And I was very emotional for weeks. 461 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,440 I just felt, well, I don't want to go out. 462 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,880 The thing that just hurt me the most was people think 463 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,680 when you go into rehab, you come out cured. 464 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,200 Yeah, I know. You don't. 465 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600 It's when the hard work starts, cos you've to surround 466 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,240 yourself round the alcohol, cos it's everywhere. 467 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,400 Cos I had a funeral a few months back, 468 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,400 and it was my first time going into a bar setting. 469 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,520 And I only lasted an hour, I was sweating and stuff. 470 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,960 I was like, "Mummy, I have to go." She was like, "Right, OK." Yeah. 471 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,920 And I just left. Sometimes you just have to do that, though. 472 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,320 You just have to remove yourself from the situation, like. 473 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,280 It's so, so hard. 474 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,760 One of the hardest things I've ever done, going in there. 475 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,720 But it's the best thing I've ever done. 476 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120 It's quite shocking to hear someone as strong 477 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,440 and physically fit as Sian talk about how alcohol damaged her body. 478 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,520 Damage that she could see in her own skin and hair. 479 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,840 I want to find out more about the harm young women like her 480 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,200 and I are doing to their bodies. 481 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,080 So I've come to the Royal Victoria Hospital in Belfast where 482 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,440 one of our leading liver consultants has 483 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,960 voiced his concern about the growing number of women here 484 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,280 suffering from alcohol-related diseases. 485 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,840 Would you say you've seen a rise in young women coming in to get help? 486 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:02,480 Yes, certainly over the last number of years, there's definitely a sense 487 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,520 that the number of young ladies we're seeing presenting with 488 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,240 alcohol-related harm in our hospitals is on the increase. 489 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,160 There's no doubt about that, you know. 490 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:17,280 And in the cases that we tend to see on the liver unit here in the Royal, 491 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,200 often the patients will be at a very advanced stage of liver disease. 492 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,120 Many of them will present with jaundice, 493 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,360 issues with fluid retention, 494 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:35,240 and complications of liver cirrhosis 495 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,760 such as a condition known as encephalophagy, 496 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,360 where they have drowsiness, confusion, 497 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,280 as a consequence of liver disease. 498 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,200 Increasingly, one of the big presentations we're seeing is 499 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,280 alcohol-related brain damage, where patients are drinking 500 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:57,640 so excessively that it leads to chronic damage to the brain. 501 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,720 What is the recommended amount of alcohol? 502 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,520 They've recommended for both men and women 503 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,840 the aim should be to drink less than 14 units of alcohol per week. 504 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,080 Aiming to have two to three alcohol-free days a week with that. 505 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:18,320 Mm. We see cases where ladies have little awareness of what safe 506 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,160 levels of alcohol consumption are. 507 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,800 I think that the sense for a lot of young people is maybe 508 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,680 they feel to a certain extent they are invincible 509 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,960 and they can abuse their bodies with alcohol without suffering 510 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,400 the consequences, you know. 511 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:40,080 And unfortunately, in many cases, it has a consequence, 512 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,960 both in terms of the physical and mental health of the patient. 513 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,920 It is frightening to hear from a consultant how much physical 514 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,560 harm alcohol does to our bodies, never mind to our lives, 515 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,000 families and relationships. 516 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,280 I wonder what harm I did to my body, 517 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,000 and if I'm still living with that damage. 518 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,720 And is it something that could come back to haunt me in the future? 519 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,720 Along with my mum, my manager Rick saw my worst days of addiction. 520 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,400 I want to find out how my alcoholism impacted him. 521 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,160 Completely oblivious! Me? Yeah. I'm just like, "Na, na, na!" 522 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,880 That's how I first met you. 523 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,000 I couldn't speak to anyone in those days! 524 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:40,600 I was just like, talking to another human being was like, so terrifying. 525 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,080 When I watched your VT, this little girl sat, you know, 526 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,040 quite flower fairy. Yeah. 527 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,680 Which I know everyone still sees that audition tape, and it 528 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,080 still does well, cos they still think you're that 16-year-old pixie. 529 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,440 Yeah. But I got sucked in, I saw it and I thought, "Wow!" 530 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,600 This picture, I just pictured this, just this pure being writing 531 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,760 poems and writing songs in the middle of nowhere in Ireland! 532 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,160 When I look back at the footage of you on tour... Yeah. ..back then. 533 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,280 I think we were so busy with you, and it was just so... 534 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,880 There was so much going on. 535 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,920 ..we were so much going, that when I look back now, I said 536 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,080 to myself the other day, it's like, how did I not see how ill you were? 537 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,720 Like when you were proper, like, anorexic. Yeah. 538 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,360 And I could see, and your little legs and your little waist. 539 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,560 And I'm like, "Oh, my God." 540 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,480 At the time I was self-harming, and I couldn't cover my scars. 541 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,160 I just, I was so out of it that I forgot to cover them. Yeah. 542 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:54,400 Every bit of media we had to do, I had to, you know, warn them 543 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,800 about your scars. Yeah. 544 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,920 And constantly trying to make sure that in an edit everything 545 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:06,880 was taken out for you, and it was definitely dark at that period. 546 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,400 I honestly, at that point, didn't have the energy to live. 547 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,400 I remember you were living with me at the time. 548 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,080 Cos when things had gone so... 549 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,480 South. ..so south, it was like you've got one option, 550 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,800 which is to move in with me and my wife. 551 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,920 I said to Cat, like, I'm not qualified for this. 552 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,680 There's something mental health happening here, 553 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,560 but I don't know enough about mental health. 554 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,400 But I remember you saying, "I need you to make me busy." 555 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,520 Yeah. I remember you were always like, "When I'm busy..." 556 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,240 I don't have time to self-destruct. Exactly, and I got that. 557 00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:44,840 And it didn't get better. It didn't get better. 558 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,920 Even coming home and, like, you know, I used to have to send 559 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,000 Cat in to your bedroom to sort of see if you were all right. 560 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,960 Cos sometimes you'd pass out naked and stuff on the bed. Yeah. 561 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,360 This is really scary and really dark. 562 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,960 We'd find bits of sick round the house. Yeah. 563 00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,240 The bin down the street was where you'd put your... 564 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:04,240 Where I'd put the booze, yeah. 565 00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:08,400 So we'd kind of know if you'd been on a bender, 566 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,960 then we could make sure you were OK. 567 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,480 Yeah. That night. It's fucking dark, man. It's so dark. 568 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,600 To try and create something for an artist 569 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,280 who's kind of beamed out is stressful. 570 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,320 Throw in Janet living... 571 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,960 My fault, bringing the artist into my family home, 572 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,040 that then involves my wife... 573 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,760 I'm a... I'm a fucking maniac when it comes to my job. And it's fine. 574 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,800 But it is hard when you dump that pressure on someone else. 575 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,720 It did affect our relationship. 576 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:12,920 But, erm... 577 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,200 Pff... 578 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,440 I've got more respect for... For her, yeah. So... 579 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,360 I don't know how they survived that. I really, really don't. 580 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,960 And I don't know how... 581 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,440 ..I put them through it. 582 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,440 Like... 583 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,680 But I kind of do, because I just know that I didn't want to live. 584 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,720 It's as simple as that. 585 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,080 It just felt like I wasn't built for this Earth in some way. 586 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:03,280 The almost dying got so exhausting. 587 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:10,320 Like, it was tiring to try and take my life on numerous occasions, 588 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,960 and wake up. 589 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:21,240 That feeling of failure just exhausts you to your bones 590 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:23,400 and to your core. 591 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:30,120 Because you just feel so hopeless, so worthless, 592 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,920 that, what's the point, what is the point in getting better? 593 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:41,200 And it's just the truth that alcoholism will take lives. 594 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,120 And it doesn't matter, like, how high up that pecking order 595 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,120 you are, it will take your life away from you if you let it. 596 00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,240 I didn't realise it at the time, but I can see now that 597 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:07,000 my mental health played a massive role in my addiction to alcohol. 598 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,200 But what's the relationship between the two? 599 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,440 Where does one stop and the other begin? 600 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,920 To find out more, I'm going to meet 601 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,280 Dr Donna Mullen from the Royal College of Psychiatrists. 602 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:27,640 So, when did you specifically go in to psychiatry for addiction? 603 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,480 Oh, about 2006. 604 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,680 Alcohol-specific death rates 605 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,760 in women in Northern Ireland 606 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,480 are now higher than they are in other parts of the UK. 607 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,600 And they have increased by two-thirds over the past 20 years, 608 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,400 so they have increased by almost 66% in the last 20 years. 609 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:54,160 So we really do have a problem in relation to women and alcohol here. 610 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,840 And that is something that we need to address. 611 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,560 There are high rates of mental health issues, 612 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,920 personality disorders and trauma in the female patients coming through. 613 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:13,280 For me, I personally have borderline personality disorder. 614 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,920 And bipolar type II. 615 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,040 You've got a collection! 616 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,080 I've got a collection going, yeah! 617 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,520 So that meant that, you know, 618 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,040 when I was younger and when I was in active addiction, like, I couldn't 619 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,160 differentiate between me and my mental illnesses, 620 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,880 because I didn't really know how to process them. 621 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,840 So in a way of like coping, like, I used alcohol to cope. 622 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,760 We talk about almost like the intrinsic link between mental 623 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,560 health and addiction and just how hand-in-hand those things go. 624 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,880 Well, I don't really see the split, I suppose. 625 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,400 That's the thing for me as a psychiatrist working 626 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,760 in addictions, you know, I consider it to be a mental health issue. 627 00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,560 And I think that the split is a bit artificial in some way 628 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,920 because addiction is a mental health issue. 629 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,680 And the two do come hand-in-hand a lot of the time. 630 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,240 You really do need to try to shatter the stigma in a way, you know, 631 00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:15,640 because anybody could become dependent on alcohol. 632 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,440 You know, all it takes is drinking enough alcohol regularly enough 633 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,320 to become physically dependent on it. Yeah. 634 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,680 But you can also be emotionally dependent on it too if you have, 635 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,760 you know, if you have mood swings like you do 636 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,520 with personality disorder, 637 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,800 then, you know, it's very easily done. 638 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,880 It took me a long time to seek help and to realise how 639 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,400 closely my addiction was linked to my mental health. 640 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,840 But seeing and treating them 641 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,920 as part of the same thing is a massive realisation for me. 642 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:58,120 Addiction can take every ounce of good that you have in your life, 643 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,560 and it will take every ounce of good from your life. 644 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:08,840 I spent every ounce of my being portraying this idea 645 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,160 that everything was fine. 646 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,240 When, behind the scenes, I was broken. 647 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,960 I'm really starting to understand the different ways 648 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,680 an addict can damage the lives of those around them, 649 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,680 those who love them. 650 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,920 And for Christine in Newtownards, alcohol was to have a devastating 651 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,920 effect on her family in a way that she could never have foreseen. 652 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,520 That's a balloon my friends bought. 653 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,520 At my sister's funeral, I thought it would be a good idea 654 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,080 for everyone to wear purple or lilac, 655 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,040 just to kind of keep it bright. 656 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,680 Instead of, you know, black and dark, 657 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,400 we wanted it to kind of resemble her. 658 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,960 So everyone kind of associates Abbi with purple and lilac now. 659 00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:11,400 She was really looking forward to her 21st birthday. 660 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,000 I just thought it was a big birthday and instead of kind of being sad, 661 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,880 we would kind of just have a celebration of her life. 662 00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:29,440 Our mum took her own life eight years ago. 663 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,680 Just something we've never got over. 664 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,760 Towards the end, Mum's mental health was really, really deteriorating. 665 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,160 And she would have drunk a lot in the end. 666 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,360 Mum's decision was based on alcohol. 667 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,080 It wasn't a sober decision, and she was drunk. 668 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,520 Abbi was only 11 at the time. 669 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,360 A time where she really needed her mum. 670 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,200 I think when something like that happens to you, 671 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,520 you're never really the same person. 672 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,840 Abbi didn't have a problem with drink at all. 673 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,080 She had bad times, the same as everyone. 674 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,960 Some days she missed my mum - most days she would have missed my mum. 675 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,440 She went to a party, 676 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,960 and what happened to our mum 677 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,560 happened to another guy's mum at the party. 678 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,480 And this was the topic of conversation. 679 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:49,920 My sister told the guys in the party 680 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:55,440 a lie that my dad was waiting on her. 681 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,200 And she left the party 682 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,400 and walked down the street a wee bit and took her own life. 683 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:10,400 She just literally got too much drink and made a stupid decision. 684 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,520 That wouldn't have happened if she was sober. 685 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,880 Abbi was 20. 686 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,360 Today is Abbi's 21st birthday. 687 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,760 Hi, how are you doing? How are you? I'm not too bad. I'm not too bad. 688 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,240 How are you doing? Yeah, I'm all good. Yeah. 689 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,120 How long have you not had alcohol for now? 690 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,960 So I got three years sober, and then I relapsed 691 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,920 and then now I've been sober for almost three years again. 692 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,680 That's crazy. Yeah! One or two glasses for me is fine. 693 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,280 But getting drunk is kind of a no-go. 694 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,920 I just don't feel safe even getting drunk. 695 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,040 And would you say what happened has stopped you from drinking? 696 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,280 Definitely, yeah, I would be scared to be drunk, yeah. 697 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,120 Because of how I feel inside at the minute, I would definitely 698 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:08,320 be scared of the type of behaviour I would be if I was drunk. Mm. 699 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,320 So, yeah, definitely it's just best to have a few glasses. 700 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,960 For me, like, the alcohol made everything a million times worse. 701 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,080 I already had a mood disorder, 702 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,080 but I was pumping myself full of alcohol. 703 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,080 So you just didn't want to be here, did you? No. 704 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,360 I, on multiple occasions, 705 00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,160 drank so much that I tried to take my own life multiple times. 706 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,720 And there's only been one time in my life 707 00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:36,120 where I've tried to take my own life sober. 708 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,160 And all the rest was through alcohol. Alcohol. Mm-hm. 709 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,480 Have you spoke to any family before that's lost, like...? 710 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,760 I've never sat down with someone who's actually lost someone. 711 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,760 And I think as well, it's like the fear of me 712 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,760 having to know that that's what I could have done to my family. 713 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,600 It's crazy. 714 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,880 And, like, you do know how much heartache that would cause, 715 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,640 like, if you didn't wake up, or...? 716 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:08,480 I think at the time when I was trying to take my own life, 717 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,040 I wasn't thinking about... 718 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,120 Anyone else. Yeah. Anyone else. It didn't matter. 719 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,960 The only way I could ever describe it to people was like, 720 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,520 my body felt like a burning building. 721 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,600 And that 722 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,400 existing was causing me so much pain that the only relief... 723 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,080 I get that. ..was to just jump out. I get that. 724 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,600 And that's, that was the closest thing. 725 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,920 That was the thing that pushed me over the edge to, you know, to, 726 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,640 you know, try and take my own life. Yeah. 727 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,120 But I think, obviously now when I'm older, like, 728 00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,640 I just would have been passing that exact feeling, 729 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,680 that exact feeling of living in a burning building 730 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,960 onto, like, everyone in my life. 731 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:58,200 What you'd be leaving them in, like, you don't think about it. At all. 732 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,840 And I'm just really sad, 733 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,680 I'm just really sorry that you've had to go through that. 734 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,720 The tragedy of Christine's story is hard to take in. 735 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:19,320 And I'm so glad she's getting the support to cope with her grief. 736 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,560 It makes me so thankful that I sought help and got into rehab 737 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,800 and recovery before I totally ruined my own life 738 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,880 or the lives of my family. 739 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,040 There is definitely cultural implications as to why 740 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,600 alcoholism can thrive here in Northern Ireland. 741 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,480 Our nightlife is built around drinking. 742 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,760 And you just have to ask yourself, if you're planning a night out 743 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,440 with your friends, and you plan it without booze, where are you going? 744 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,840 There's not that many options. 745 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:02,520 Even after six years, it's still weird to go out and not drink. 746 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,160 You're almost like apologising for not drinking, you know what I mean? 747 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,720 It's still very strange. 748 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,240 So I think what's becoming more clear listening to other women 749 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:31,760 talk about their experiences of being a mum or losing their mum, 750 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,960 it's almost like society has accepted that men can fall 751 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,320 victim to alcoholism, but we refuse to see it in women. 752 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,600 We refuse to acknowledge the impact that has on their lives 753 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,840 and just the things we expect women to do. 754 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,840 We expect women to be good mums, 755 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,000 we expect them to be all empathetic, all loving. 756 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,600 I feel like there's a whole other level of pressure, 757 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,040 a whole other level of stress. 758 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,360 Even just like getting pregnant, having a baby, 759 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,320 trying to be an alcoholic, addict, and be a mother. 760 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,160 Like, I can't even imagine. 761 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,640 Because, like, I already just see the stress I put on my mum. 762 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,520 I can't even imagine trying to be a mum, and be an addict at the same. 763 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,520 Like, yeah, it's just unreal. 764 00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:36,360 So I've come to Maghera to meet Imelda who is 765 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,440 brand-new at the start of her recovery journey. 766 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,640 And taking my own mind back to whenever I started, 767 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,800 like, it is incredibly daunting. 768 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,600 So I know exactly what she's going through. 769 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,800 Hiya. Hey! Come in. You're very welcome. Thank you so much. 770 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,520 I started drinking when I was 16. 771 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,280 Started going out quite early. 772 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,200 Then it became like a binge drinking thing, 773 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,440 so, every weekend, you know? 774 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,360 But it was always social drinking then. 775 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,720 Me and Jay got a home together and... 776 00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,520 ..I started having like a cider at night, before bed. 777 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,920 And then I started drinking wine, and then I fell pregnant 778 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,480 about three months after I moved into the house. 779 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,720 My drinking got heavier after that. 780 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:37,480 Fast forward a bit, I had two more children 781 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,280 and they were emergency sections. 782 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,600 My last child was actually born the day before my mum passed away. 783 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,400 So it was really, really difficult. 784 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,320 It was just like a year ago, and it was the very first Covid, 785 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,360 so she didn't get to meet her or anything. 786 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,560 It was really, really, really difficult. 787 00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,840 Since then, my drinking just escalated. 788 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,440 Got dark, drinking on my own to pass out. 789 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,440 My children sort of suffered from that. 790 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,720 Yeah. You know, because they seen it. 791 00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,200 I felt like it got to the stage where I was winging it as a mummy. 792 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,600 It was costing me more than money, basically. 793 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,360 So I decided to go to AA. 794 00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,880 Gemma Rose? 795 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,960 You're tired today, aren't you? 796 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,000 I actually drank that night, the night that I came home. 797 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,200 The night that I got the news that Mummy had passed away. 798 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,560 There wasn't much thought behind it, 799 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:47,080 it was just what I was used to doing and to suppress 800 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,520 how I was feeling, I was just... 801 00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,400 I didn't know what else to do. 802 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,840 She was like the other half of me. 803 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,680 How many days home were you? 804 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,960 If I'm being completely honest, 805 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,400 two and a half weeks, but it nearly was the three. 806 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,880 This week, I had a slip-up because...it was on Tuesday, 807 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,640 because just something happened at work 808 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,760 and then I went to AA on Wednesday 809 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,520 and it got me back, you know, again, 810 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,840 and I'm really just taking it each day as it comes now. 811 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,800 I haven't actually decided yet whether I'm calling myself 812 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,000 an alcoholic or not. I don't know. 813 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,320 I want to take control now, it controlled me for a long time. 814 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,480 Yeah, that's an important thing, isn't it? Yeah. 815 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,720 I kind of feel as if my mum is giving me strength. 816 00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:52,800 I feel like she's with me all the time, um, 817 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,800 so I miss her so much. 818 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,040 And I know she would want me to stop drinking. Yeah. 819 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,560 So that's what I'm doing, and she's giving me signs 820 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,480 that I'm on the right path. 821 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,360 So that's where I'm going. And I've her legacy to carry on. 822 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,280 So that's what I'm going to do. 823 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,680 Yeah, that's amazing. 824 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,960 I'm still early days, I'm also doing counselling now on a Sunday morning. 825 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,160 It's going really, really well 826 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,200 and I'm feeling strong at the minute. 827 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,480 Don't beat myself up any more about, you know, as much 828 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,960 about things because... 829 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,400 You have to be kind to yourself. 830 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,160 I'm trying to do that. 831 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,360 Wow, people left flowers. 832 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,000 All the women I've met have gone to hell and back, 833 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,480 and not one of them travelled the same way. 834 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:14,000 Zoe, Sian, Christine, Imelda, Tamsin. 835 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,320 They've all either lost someone or nearly lost themselves 836 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,880 through the destructive effects of the most socially acceptable drug 837 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,560 in the world. 838 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,120 But the one thing I have taken away from all of them 839 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,640 is that we can survive. 840 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,520 We can rebuild our lives. 841 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:34,080 But to do so, we need at least two things - hope and help. 842 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,600 I love how it looks, I think it's just beautiful. 843 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,200 Stunning. 844 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,640 I'm glad I got butterflies on it. 845 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,880 I got her favourite wee quote, 846 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,760 "one day at a time". 847 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,840 I'm just glad about it, like, all of it. 848 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,880 I do love getting up here, and seeing her because it's where 849 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,400 I'm close to her. 850 00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,680 It's the closest place I am to her 851 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,360 is her resting place. 852 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,040 So long as they know we'll always remember her. 853 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,760 We're always going to remember her anyway. 854 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,520 She'll be a hard person to forget. 855 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,320 Sad that it's all done, but I'm happy it's done, 856 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,640 but I can't do it again for her, this is something I have to stare at 857 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,120 all my life now, 858 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,040 and I'm glad it looks the way it does, I really am. 859 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,200 If I'm being honest, I didn't ever think I would reach 860 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,200 the age I am today. 861 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,280 To think of a future is hard. 862 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,400 I'm not going to lie. 863 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,400 I would like to be happy, at least. 864 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,080 Happy, comfortable. 865 00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:46,440 A bit wealthy! 866 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,200 But I would just like to be able to look back and tell the grandkids 867 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,720 a story that has a positive ending, you know? 868 00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,200 Yeah. 869 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,400 I've been in recovery now for almost six years, 870 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,640 and it was the hardest, 871 00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,520 but most liberating part of my life. 872 00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:27,000 I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I was incredibly lucky 873 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,760 that I had a great support system. 874 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,080 I don't think I would have been able to do it without them, and I never 875 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:38,480 would have thought I would proudly call myself an alcoholic one day. 876 00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:41,880 But I am. 877 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,320 Society portrays the alcoholic very differently 878 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,440 than how I see the alcoholic. 879 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,280 I see the alcoholic as a person... 880 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,960 ..with feelings, with a past, 881 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,360 but with a present and a future. 882 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,920 I just want people... 883 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,680 ..to see the alcoholic as a person... 884 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,520 ..with potential. 122280

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