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This programme contains
some strong language,
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some scenes which some viewers
may find upsetting, and
deals with suicide and self-harm.
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I was just 16 when I appeared on
X Factor, and suddenly became known
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to so many people.
And though I didn't realise it then,
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within four years
I would be an alcoholic.
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Thankfully, I'm in active recovery,
but the number of alcohol-related
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deaths among women in Northern
Ireland is at an all-time high,
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and increasing faster here
than anywhere else in the UK.
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With medical experts expressing
alarm at the increase in consumption
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of alcohol by young women, alcohol
abuse is costing the public here
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a staggering £900 million
every year.
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Hey, guys.
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So I'm working on a really,
really exciting project.
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My fans have been incredible
through my continued journey
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out of addiction...
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If you are in active addiction,
recovery,
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concerned about your drinking,
or just rethinking
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your relationship with alcohol,
then please, hit me up.
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..but why are so many young women
succumbing to alcohol abuse?
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What are their stories,
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and what can they do
to fight their addictions?
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I want to reach out
and discover what's happening
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with young women and alcohol.
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You're making me scared!
What's your name?
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My name is Janet Devlin.
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I'm 16 and I'm from Tyrone
in Northern Ireland.
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How are you feeling about this?
Er, nervous!
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I bet you are!
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This is the full X Factor audition
I did back in 2011.
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It's literally been so long
since I watched this that I forgot
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just how much of a baby I was
when I did it.
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Like, I didn't realise, like,
16 was, like, that young
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to do a show like that.
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# It's a little bit funny,
this feeling inside... #
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Your Song.
The song I still sing to this day.
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Honest to God, there's not a gig
goes by where people
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don't ask for that.
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SHE CHUCKLES
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You can literally see...
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..how petrified I am
the whole way through this.
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Aw, my wee mummy.
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Aw!
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For me, the X Factor was,
in equal parts,
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the best decision of my life,
and the hardest part of my life.
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I was a child.
I was 16, and it was terrifying.
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Like, there's no way to prepare
yourself for your life
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changing overnight.
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There's no way to prepare yourself
for getting online abuse
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from adults. It was hard.
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You know, if I was to open up
in those days and say,
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"Oh, I'm really struggling,
I actually really need help,"
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or just admitting at the time
that I really was struggling to,
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you know, even be alive,
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the dialogue around mental health
wasn't there.
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So I just never said it.
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Kept it private,
kept it buried deep down.
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At the time of leaving the show
and doing all of the gigs
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and touring and travelling,
like, I had good money at the time.
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I drank it all.
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So I started as someone who drank
to overcome social anxiety,
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to feel comfortable in my own skin.
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You know, you're the life
of the party kind of thing,
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when you've had a drink.
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But eventually it stops being fun.
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You know, I drank myself
out of fun, into dependence,
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and ruined it for myself,
essentially.
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I just made my life a living hell,
and I made the life of everyone
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around me who was trying to, like,
work for me or work with me,
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a living hell and a living misery
as well.
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I remember my mum crying,
screaming at me once,
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just being like,
"How does it feel to be 19,
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"and be an alcoholic?"
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And she just...she was
at her breaking point.
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She was just waiting on the phone
call to say that I'd passed away.
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Um...
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That, now, as a sober person,
is absolutely just a disgusting
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and sad and terrifying thought.
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And I can't imagine being a mother
trying to navigate that world.
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So, that was the reality.
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She was just waiting
for that phone call.
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Although my story feels unique
to me,
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I know that an increasing number of
women have had similar experiences.
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I've come to Bangor to meet
25-year-old Zoe, who was an addict
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by the time she was 18.
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Hiya.
Hello, how are you?
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I'm good, thank you.
How are you doing?
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Yeah, good. Do you want to come in?
Ah, thank you.
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Where did your addiction story
start?
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So I was quite young, about 13, 14.
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I started dabbling.
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I came from a really strict school
in England.
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My mum moved me over here
for a better way of life. Yeah.
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It just didn't go to plan.
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No. So it didn't.
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She always tried to do right by me.
She did.
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But she was very strict
and very by the book.
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And I think that's why I rebelled
as much as I did.
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Do you think the move had any impact
on your drinking and using?
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Definitely.
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Like, I definitely tried
to make myself likeable.
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You know, to fit in.
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And because I was the new girl
and, you know, new girl in school,
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new girl in a different country,
you know.
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I was stripped away from everything
and everyone that I ever knew.
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It just got worse, the older I got.
I completely flunked school.
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That was when I then started
on the legals.
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So I was smoking legal highs,
I was taking like Microdots,
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legal Es, going to raves.
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And I was trying to forget
the dark thoughts and the demons
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in my head and mask them with
something that made me feel good.
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And then...
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..that was when I went really
downhill, between 16, 17.
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I was going between, like,
sleeping rough,
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friends' sofas, strangers' sofas.
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And, yeah, I'd done a bit of time
on the streets.
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I've had people
walk past and spit on me.
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I've had people walk past
and kick me.
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I've had, you know, just for
the craic, just because they can,
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you know.
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I've done unthinkable things
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like stealing and all,
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and burnt so many bridges
with people that you feel like
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you can't come back from.
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Yeah, things can get quite dark
and scary, quite quick.
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I look back now and I'm like,
I don't know how I'm still alive,
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if I'm being honest.
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We would have drank up on the pier,
like up on these wee bits.
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And then if we were going
to take anything,
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we would have gone under...
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You would've actually
gone under the bridge to use?
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Yeah. Wow. You see,
cos it's on the doorstep. Yeah.
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It's not the first time
I've been down, you know, since...
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..but it's obviously the first time
coming back and reminiscing
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about the bad times. The bad days!
Yeah. They weren't really good,
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were they? Well,
they were at the time, I think.
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At the time,
you think everything's good,
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and everything's great,
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and it's not until you come out
of it and you get the help
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and you realise, no, actually,
that was that was way worse than...
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Yeah. ..you could even explain
to anyone, you know?
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No, I do have mental health
problems.
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I have BPD -
borderline personality disorder.
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Because I'm the same,
I have the BPD. Yeah.
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I'm on anti-psychotics now,
which sounds scary, yeah.
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I know the feeling, because I'm
currently on anti-psychotics myself.
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Yeah? Yeah. So, you know...
Whenever you're first told,
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like, you have to go on
anti-psychotics, you're like...
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I'm psychotic?! OK?!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And, yeah, it was,
it was really, it was daunting,
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it was scary,
but see since being on them,
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I do feel like a different person.
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I see things differently.
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I am not as irrational,
I'm not as impulsive.
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That's a big one. Yeah.
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When you've got mental health
problems as well, which most people
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with addiction issues have...
They tend to do, yeah.
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Yeah! ..you're battling
not only the addiction,
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but you're battling your
mental health at the same time.
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At the same time.
And it is just like...
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You don't know what one
to listen to.
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Yeah. But I've worked hard...
You have, and it shows.
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..to get to where I am today.
And I'm glad, I'm glad it does show,
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because, you know,
for the first time in...
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..a good chunk of my life, I'm able
to say I'm proud of myself.
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You know, I've been through shit
in the past, but I've came out of it
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the other end, you know. I've...
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I have, and I've done it! Yeah.
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You know. I'm just crying, like...
Don't, you'll set me off!
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Zoe's story has really struck
a chord with me.
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She's still such a young woman,
but has already gone through
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some really tough times.
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Above all, I'm impressed
by her resilience and ability
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to ask for help at such a young age,
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and the way she has faced up
to issues around her mental health.
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Something that, like me,
she had to do
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in order to confront her addiction.
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I got a message from a girl called
Tamsin, who has said,
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"I don't know if you'll see this
message, but I've seen your post
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"about addiction, about telling
people their stories.
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"My mammy also struggled
with addiction, mainly alcoholism.
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"I live in Derry, and I would love
to tell you my story some time."
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Oh, she said, "My mammy actually
passed away this year
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"on the 16th of January
due to addiction."
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That's really sad.
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"Hey, Tamsin.
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"Thanks so much for reaching out.
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"I'd love to talk.
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"So sorry to hear about your mum."
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Since her mum died, 18-year-old
Tamsin has been helping her dad
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to raise her two younger sisters.
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But I'm so glad
she's reached out to me.
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I actually messaged Janet.
I messaged her.
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Just said I'm looking forward
to meeting her.
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I didn't think she would get back
to us yet.
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I remember when she came on
The X Factor and she sang Your Song
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by Elton John and, oh, my God,
I fell in love with it, you know.
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Her voice singing that song,
it just matched so well.
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And my mummy actually took me
to the X Factor tour.
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My mummy, like, always felt well bad
because she had a wee fall
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because she drunk a wee bit
too much.
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But that's something that ate
my mummy up too,
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for doing that to me.
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But, aye, I remember seeing Janet
on The X Factor.
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The box even smells like her.
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I swear, I can smell her.
Her perfume.
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My mummy only ever wanted
three babies,
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so Lula May was her last wee child
to be born. Lula May's her wee baby.
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My daddy's all smiley,
to have three girls!
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We were just all so happy. Our
family jigsaw was completed there.
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We were whole.
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We had everything then. The main
thing we had was each other.
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She tried countless times
to get help back then.
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They went to rehab centres,
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she went to a well lot
of counselling as well.
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And I remember her saying to me
loads and loads of times that,
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"I don't want to be this way,
and I just want to be sober.
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"I just don't want
this kind of life,
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"a life that's so similar to hell.
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"I don't want it."
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The last post she ever replied to,
on the 6th of January,
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was actually my post,
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I wrote on her wall,
"Love you, Mummy."
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And then she wrote wee hearts
under it,
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four wee hearts and a wee X.
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I kept writing on her wall,
just in case she grabbed her phone
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and was, like,
looking through her Facebook.
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and I put up another wee post.
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"Me and the two girls love you
more than you will ever know,
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"our rock." And a wee picture
of me and my sisters and my mummy.
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And another one.
This is 13th of January now.
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"Your girls love you
more than you know."
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Just hoping she would see it
and something would cha...
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..just...something would happen.
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The day my mummy died,
I got a phone call,
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it was from my two cousins.
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They were screaming on the phone,
crying.
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They were all,
"I think your mummy's dead."
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So I jumped into the car
and ran down,
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and I was all, "Where's my mummy?"
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I went into the living room.
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And there my mummy was just
sitting lifeless on the sofa.
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I just rushed over to her
and hugged her and kissed her.
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And I just couldn't believe it,
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like, all my family sitting
round her and...
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I don't want to have that life, no.
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When I have weans of my own,
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I don't want my weans to see
what I had to see,
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because I shouldn't have seen it.
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Hiya! Hi.
So nice to finally meet you.
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You too! How are you doing? Good.
Aye, all good? Good.
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So, when it comes to addiction,
how do you feel towards it?
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Are you angry at it?
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Are you upset at it?
Like, what's your main feeling
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when you think about what
addiction's done to your life?
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I'm all kind of mixed emotions.
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Some days I'll be angry.
Some days I'll be so upset.
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But the main one is kind of anger,
because it took my mummy.
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You feel a wee bit out of sync
with the world. Mm.
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Like, you don't know...
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Like, with my mummy gone now, like,
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it feels like you don't know,
like, your kind of purpose,
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because she's not here.
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And I just...
I don't feel myself at all. Yeah.
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And what responsibilities
have you been left now
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since your mummy passed away?
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My two wee sisters are
my main responsibility.
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Like, they're 11 and 8. Wow.
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Aye. Young girls, then.
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Aye, really young.
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Didn't deserve what happened
to them. Yeah.
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So what kind of alcoholic
was your mum?
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When I was, say, about seven
or eight, a weekend drinker.
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Like, a drink on a Saturday, maybe
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the odd wee day in the weekdays,
if she wasn't doing anything.
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Or had nothing to do.
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But then it just progressed
that bit more.
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When she drunk, it was hardcore,
like.
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She would drink vodka, like.
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Litre bottles, ten glasses.
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And she would drink raw vodka
to get that quicker hit. Yeah.
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She would barely mix it. Mm.
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Do you ever just want to just have
your childhood years back?
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Aye, it's annoying, like.
I had to grow up too quickly.
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And even my mummy said that to me
before, when she was here, like.
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She knows herself that
I had to grow up too quickly.
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I shouldn't have, like. I had
to see stuff that no-one should see.
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Yeah.
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How did it feel for you to watch
the damage your mum was doing,
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not only to your family, but
also like physically to herself?
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You just feel helpless.
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You have to sit in the sidelines,
you know, but you try and try
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with your love.
Sometimes your love just,
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it can't make it happen.
I can't make her be the person
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you want her to be.
But I still showed my love anyway.
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I was angry with her at times,
of course.
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I was sad. As I said, again,
all mixed emotions
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when my mummy was drinking.
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But the main thing I had is show
her this love, still.
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Mm. It's difficult to hear it
from the other perspective,
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and just how quickly you've had to
grow up in comparison to me,
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just constantly trying to be a child
and just drink myself silly, like.
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It's...it's really tough
and I just really feel for you.
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And, like, I don't even, I don't
even know how that responsibility
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must feel for you.
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I'm just absolutely blown away
with how strong she is,
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through all of that, through
the years of exposure to alcoholism
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from such a young age.
Like, how she can be so,
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not just eloquently spoken
with her feelings towards it,
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but how she's, you know, still
managing to keep it together.
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Like, I just, I can't even imagine
what she's actually been through,
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because I've only ever been
on the other side of it, you know?
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Hearing stories about other
people's alcoholism,
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or how alcoholism has affected them
in their life,
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is actually one of the best things
for an alcoholic to be exposed to,
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because it reminds you that you are
literally just an arm's length away
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from causing that chaos
in your own life again.
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So in the spirit of honestly
and candidly talking
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about experiences with alcoholism,
I think it's only right
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that I sit down
and talk to my own mother
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about how I impacted her life.
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Because it's very easy for me
to sit here and talk
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about how it affected mine.
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Whereas realistically,
like, alcoholism is a family illness
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and it really, really did impact
those closest to me,
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and my mum being probably
the biggest person I hurt.
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This is the Gortin Glen,
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and we are around a mile away from
Gortin, which is where I grew up.
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Hello! Hiya.
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INDISTINCT CHATTER
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Chill out!
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Oh, I missed you.
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Every alcoholic is capable of lying.
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It's just, like,
part and parcel of the disease.
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She was a professional liar.
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In relation to drink,
where drink was concerned.
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Would not admit, you would not admit
to having a problem at all.
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And I was left
in a very sticky situation
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because the manager
would contact me,
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but there was very little I could do
unless I was over there.
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And even then, sure,
I mean, she still hoodwinked me.
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There were so many of those phone
calls from my manager to my mum.
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And obviously a lot of them
I wasn't privy to.
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Like, I didn't know
they were going on at all. So...
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Everyone seemed to know
I had a problem but me at the time.
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The way she was going on,
I think you'd have thought
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that she had missed a couple
of years and was making up
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as a teenager drinking.
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But then the phone calls became
more, and the stories became more,
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and the list of drinking
became more.
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And not turning up for sessions.
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And he'd be ringing me,
I had a full-time job.
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There was many a day I had to leave
work, arrange a flight,
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and head straight to England.
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I was angry, I was cross. I was...
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How do you get to this point
in your life?
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I suppose you just think,
"Oh, there's a quick fix for it."
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But there's no quick fix for it.
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Whenever she hadn't been in touch
for about three days,
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to me, if she was at the house
not answering the door,
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she could have been lying in her
vomit. You know, that type of way.
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You know, she could have died.
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The fear always was there
of death, eventually, you know,
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if she didn't seek help or get help.
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I suppose in a way
I dealt with it the best I could.
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I think every mother
wants the best for their child.
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I do still carry trauma
and worry for Janet.
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There's times that you wonder,
is she OK?
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Or will she revert back? You know,
you just don't know.
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But now I have my confidence in her,
but there's always a piece in the
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back of your head thinking,
is this...
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..would something trigger it again?
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But fair play to her, she hasn't,
she hasn't done that.
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All I have is my story
and my experience,
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and how it actually was for me.
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SPEAKING ON VIDEO: There are so many
ways I can film this intro.
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But the quickest one
is just to say,
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"Hi, I'm Janet,
and I'm an alcoholic."
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So to finally, like, lift the veil
and just tell people what
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my actual truth was, was the most
liberating and freeing feeling ever.
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I knew I was an alcoholic
when I was 20.
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The reaction was just so positive.
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There was definitely,
like, a wave of people...
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..kind of maybe coming to the
realisation that they also
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had a problem, from watching it.
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You empathise a lot
with these people,
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because you've also been there.
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I think one of the things I really
liked about the comments was
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people that are getting sober
are just like,
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"Oh, I'm one week sober."
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And just all the comments
are just like,
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"Congratulations, that's so good!"
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And I think that kind of stuff,
like, warms my heart,
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because I just know the specialness,
or the days, like,
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how hard it is to get, like,
a week or to get a month.
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And I just feel like the comments
are so positive and so nice
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that it's like,
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I don't think they understand
by responding to those comments,
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it's like,
"Well done, you've got this!"
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Like how much that means
to someone in the early days
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of recovery, you know.
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It's hard going back over this time
in my life.
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And the terrible thing is that many
others have similar experiences.
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I'm in Belfast
to meet 31-year-old Sian.
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Like me, her recovery started
in a rehab programme.
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So I want to hear what life is like
for her after rehab
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and how she's coping
with her sobriety.
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What's the most you've been
in a day? Twice? Twice.
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Because you can't get any more.
It's basically I go to the gym too
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cos I'm not a really good sleeper.
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But I'm still
stuck in a routine from rehab,
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getting up in at 6:15 every morning.
Yeah, yeah. And then having to do...
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Because I never understood
within there.
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I was like,
"Why is this at this time,
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"and why have you to do this, and
why are you not allowed to do that?"
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00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,040
Because addicts never had
a routine in a long time. Yeah.
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00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,760
And it was all
because of the routine.
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00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,440
Then I'm still getting up at that
time. Do you like the routine?
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00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,160
Yeah. Cos I love routine.
So do I. Yeah.
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Cos people feel very trapped
by routine.
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00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,760
But I feel like addicts, they're
like, "Oh, my God, this is..."
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You need it, because obviously
addiction,
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or when I drank, you just went by
the day as long as you had a drink.
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Yeah, literally. There's no routine
then. Are you ready? Yeah, awesome.
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Did you get your water? Yeah.
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Where do you want...? There? Yeah.
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So I put the incline up,
you know, really high.
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So I just put it right up
to the top.
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Growing up, I gave my mummy
a hard time. I know I did.
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I just went completely off the rails
before I had the kids.
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And then my last
week before I went into rehab,
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I didn't want to be here. Yeah.
I was like, no.
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And there's no way out of this. And
I made a self referral myself. Yeah.
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And because of the lockdown,
they were like,
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"Sian, we're not taking anybody in
at the minute."
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00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,120
And I was like,
"Please, take me in." Yeah.
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00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,000
I had them tortured, Janet, like.
Mm. See when I went in there,
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00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,760
they were like, "Can you remember
phoning me crying, drunk?"
438
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,960
And I would say, no. Yeah. But it's
been the best outcome ever, like.
439
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,280
Yeah.
440
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,160
At the end there I was drinking,
441
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,800
and I wasn't giving myself
time to have a hangover,
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00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,400
I was drinking
as soon as I woke up again.
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00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,320
It was really, really bad.
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00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,880
I always made sure I looked OK
whenever I was drinking.
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00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,760
But then when I look
back at pictures, I was like...
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Cos I started losing my hair and my
skin was going a really bad colour.
447
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,880
And then, when I look back,
448
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,640
I do feel really sad
at how bad it ended up.
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00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,840
Because I was actually
secretly drinking as well.
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I was letting on I wasn't drinking,
451
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,760
so I was hiding it
in like the cupboards.
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00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,000
And then in rehab I did have to
feel like I grieved over alcohol
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00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,920
a wee bit, cos I felt like
I'd lost a friend. Yeah.
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Cos I depended on it so much.
You mourn. Yeah.
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I couldn't see the kids
for three months, or my family,
456
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because of lockdown. So I only got
one 15-minute phone call a week.
457
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I looked forward every single week
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for that one phone call
off the kids.
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00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,320
I had to build a brand-new life
as soon as I got out of rehab.
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Everything was so different.
And I was very emotional for weeks.
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00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,440
I just felt,
well, I don't want to go out.
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The thing that just hurt me the most
was people think
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when you go into rehab,
you come out cured.
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00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,200
Yeah, I know. You don't.
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It's when the hard work starts,
cos you've to surround
466
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,240
yourself round the alcohol,
cos it's everywhere.
467
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,400
Cos I had a funeral
a few months back,
468
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,400
and it was my first time
going into a bar setting.
469
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,520
And I only lasted an hour,
I was sweating and stuff.
470
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,960
I was like, "Mummy, I have to go."
She was like, "Right, OK." Yeah.
471
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,920
And I just left. Sometimes you just
have to do that, though.
472
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,320
You just have to remove yourself
from the situation, like.
473
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,280
It's so, so hard.
474
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,760
One of the hardest things
I've ever done, going in there.
475
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,720
But it's the best thing
I've ever done.
476
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120
It's quite shocking to hear
someone as strong
477
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,440
and physically fit as Sian talk
about how alcohol damaged her body.
478
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,520
Damage that she could see
in her own skin and hair.
479
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,840
I want to find out more
about the harm young women like her
480
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,200
and I are doing to their bodies.
481
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,080
So I've come to the Royal Victoria
Hospital in Belfast where
482
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,440
one of our leading
liver consultants has
483
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,960
voiced his concern about
the growing number of women here
484
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,280
suffering from alcohol-related
diseases.
485
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,840
Would you say you've seen a rise in
young women coming in to get help?
486
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:02,480
Yes, certainly over the last number
of years, there's definitely a sense
487
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,520
that the number of young ladies
we're seeing presenting with
488
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,240
alcohol-related harm
in our hospitals is on the increase.
489
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,160
There's no doubt about that,
you know.
490
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:17,280
And in the cases that we tend to see
on the liver unit here in the Royal,
491
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,200
often the patients will be at a very
advanced stage of liver disease.
492
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,120
Many of them
will present with jaundice,
493
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,360
issues with fluid retention,
494
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:35,240
and complications
of liver cirrhosis
495
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,760
such as a condition
known as encephalophagy,
496
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,360
where they have drowsiness,
confusion,
497
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,280
as a consequence of liver disease.
498
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,200
Increasingly, one of the big
presentations we're seeing is
499
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,280
alcohol-related brain damage,
where patients are drinking
500
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:57,640
so excessively that it leads
to chronic damage to the brain.
501
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,720
What is the recommended amount
of alcohol?
502
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,520
They've recommended for both men
and women
503
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,840
the aim should be to drink less
than 14 units of alcohol per week.
504
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,080
Aiming to have two to three
alcohol-free days a week with that.
505
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:18,320
Mm. We see cases where ladies have
little awareness of what safe
506
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,160
levels of alcohol consumption are.
507
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,800
I think that the sense for a lot
of young people is maybe
508
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,680
they feel to a certain extent
they are invincible
509
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,960
and they can abuse their bodies
with alcohol without suffering
510
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,400
the consequences, you know.
511
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:40,080
And unfortunately, in many cases,
it has a consequence,
512
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,960
both in terms of the physical
and mental health of the patient.
513
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,920
It is frightening to hear
from a consultant how much physical
514
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,560
harm alcohol does to our bodies,
never mind to our lives,
515
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,000
families and relationships.
516
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,280
I wonder what harm I did to my body,
517
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,000
and if I'm still living
with that damage.
518
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,720
And is it something that could come
back to haunt me in the future?
519
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,720
Along with my mum, my manager Rick
saw my worst days of addiction.
520
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,400
I want to find out
how my alcoholism impacted him.
521
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,160
Completely oblivious! Me?
Yeah. I'm just like, "Na, na, na!"
522
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,880
That's how I first met you.
523
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,000
I couldn't speak to anyone
in those days!
524
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:40,600
I was just like, talking to another
human being was like, so terrifying.
525
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,080
When I watched your VT,
this little girl sat, you know,
526
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,040
quite flower fairy. Yeah.
527
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,680
Which I know everyone still sees
that audition tape, and it
528
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,080
still does well, cos they still
think you're that 16-year-old pixie.
529
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,440
Yeah. But I got sucked in,
I saw it and I thought, "Wow!"
530
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,600
This picture, I just pictured this,
just this pure being writing
531
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,760
poems and writing songs
in the middle of nowhere in Ireland!
532
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,160
When I look back at the footage
of you on tour... Yeah. ..back then.
533
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,280
I think we were so busy with you,
and it was just so...
534
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,880
There was so much going on.
535
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,920
..we were so much going, that
when I look back now, I said
536
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,080
to myself the other day, it's like,
how did I not see how ill you were?
537
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,720
Like when you were proper,
like, anorexic. Yeah.
538
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,360
And I could see, and your little
legs and your little waist.
539
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,560
And I'm like, "Oh, my God."
540
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,480
At the time I was self-harming,
and I couldn't cover my scars.
541
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,160
I just, I was so out of it that
I forgot to cover them. Yeah.
542
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:54,400
Every bit of media we had to do,
I had to, you know, warn them
543
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,800
about your scars. Yeah.
544
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,920
And constantly trying to make sure
that in an edit everything
545
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:06,880
was taken out for you, and it was
definitely dark at that period.
546
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,400
I honestly, at that point,
didn't have the energy to live.
547
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,400
I remember you were living with me
at the time.
548
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,080
Cos when things had gone so...
549
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,480
South. ..so south,
it was like you've got one option,
550
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,800
which is to move in with me
and my wife.
551
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,920
I said to Cat, like,
I'm not qualified for this.
552
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,680
There's something mental health
happening here,
553
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,560
but I don't know enough
about mental health.
554
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,400
But I remember you saying,
"I need you to make me busy."
555
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,520
Yeah. I remember you were always
like, "When I'm busy..."
556
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,240
I don't have time to self-destruct.
Exactly, and I got that.
557
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:44,840
And it didn't get better.
It didn't get better.
558
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,920
Even coming home and, like,
you know, I used to have to send
559
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,000
Cat in to your bedroom to sort of
see if you were all right.
560
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,960
Cos sometimes you'd pass out naked
and stuff on the bed. Yeah.
561
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,360
This is really scary
and really dark.
562
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,960
We'd find bits of sick round
the house. Yeah.
563
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,240
The bin down the street
was where you'd put your...
564
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:04,240
Where I'd put the booze, yeah.
565
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:08,400
So we'd kind of know
if you'd been on a bender,
566
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,960
then we could make sure you were OK.
567
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,480
Yeah. That night. It's fucking
dark, man. It's so dark.
568
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,600
To try and create something
for an artist
569
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,280
who's kind of beamed out
is stressful.
570
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,320
Throw in Janet living...
571
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,960
My fault, bringing the artist
into my family home,
572
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,040
that then involves my wife...
573
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,760
I'm a... I'm a fucking maniac when
it comes to my job. And it's fine.
574
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,800
But it is hard when you dump
that pressure on someone else.
575
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,720
It did affect our relationship.
576
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:12,920
But, erm...
577
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,200
Pff...
578
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,440
I've got more respect for...
For her, yeah. So...
579
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,360
I don't know how they survived that.
I really, really don't.
580
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,960
And I don't know how...
581
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,440
..I put them through it.
582
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,440
Like...
583
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,680
But I kind of do, because I just
know that I didn't want to live.
584
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,720
It's as simple as that.
585
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,080
It just felt like I wasn't built
for this Earth in some way.
586
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:03,280
The almost dying got so exhausting.
587
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:10,320
Like, it was tiring to try and take
my life on numerous occasions,
588
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,960
and wake up.
589
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:21,240
That feeling of failure
just exhausts you to your bones
590
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:23,400
and to your core.
591
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:30,120
Because you just feel so hopeless,
so worthless,
592
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,920
that, what's the point,
what is the point in getting better?
593
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:41,200
And it's just the truth
that alcoholism will take lives.
594
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,120
And it doesn't matter, like,
how high up that pecking order
595
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,120
you are, it will take your life
away from you if you let it.
596
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:03,240
I didn't realise it at the time,
but I can see now that
597
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:07,000
my mental health played a massive
role in my addiction to alcohol.
598
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,200
But what's the relationship
between the two?
599
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,440
Where does one stop
and the other begin?
600
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,920
To find out more, I'm going to meet
601
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,280
Dr Donna Mullen from the
Royal College of Psychiatrists.
602
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:27,640
So, when did you specifically go in
to psychiatry for addiction?
603
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,480
Oh, about 2006.
604
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,680
Alcohol-specific death rates
605
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,760
in women in Northern Ireland
606
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,480
are now higher than they are
in other parts of the UK.
607
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,600
And they have increased by
two-thirds over the past 20 years,
608
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:47,400
so they have increased
by almost 66% in the last 20 years.
609
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:54,160
So we really do have a problem in
relation to women and alcohol here.
610
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,840
And that is something
that we need to address.
611
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,560
There are high rates
of mental health issues,
612
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:06,920
personality disorders and trauma in
the female patients coming through.
613
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:13,280
For me, I personally have
borderline personality disorder.
614
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,920
And bipolar type II.
615
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,040
You've got a collection!
616
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,080
I've got a collection going, yeah!
617
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,520
So that meant that, you know,
618
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,040
when I was younger and when I was in
active addiction, like, I couldn't
619
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,160
differentiate between me
and my mental illnesses,
620
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,880
because I didn't really know
how to process them.
621
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,840
So in a way of like coping,
like, I used alcohol to cope.
622
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,760
We talk about almost like
the intrinsic link between mental
623
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:46,560
health and addiction and just
how hand-in-hand those things go.
624
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,880
Well, I don't really see the split,
I suppose.
625
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,400
That's the thing for me
as a psychiatrist working
626
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,760
in addictions, you know, I consider
it to be a mental health issue.
627
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,560
And I think that the split is
a bit artificial in some way
628
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,920
because addiction
is a mental health issue.
629
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,680
And the two do come hand-in-hand
a lot of the time.
630
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:12,240
You really do need to try to shatter
the stigma in a way, you know,
631
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:15,640
because anybody could
become dependent on alcohol.
632
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,440
You know, all it takes is drinking
enough alcohol regularly enough
633
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,320
to become physically dependent
on it. Yeah.
634
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,680
But you can also be emotionally
dependent on it too if you have,
635
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,760
you know, if you have mood swings
like you do
636
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,520
with personality disorder,
637
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,800
then, you know,
it's very easily done.
638
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,880
It took me a long time to seek help
and to realise how
639
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,400
closely my addiction was linked
to my mental health.
640
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,840
But seeing and treating them
641
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,920
as part of the same thing
is a massive realisation for me.
642
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:58,120
Addiction can take every ounce
of good that you have in your life,
643
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,560
and it will take every ounce of good
from your life.
644
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:08,840
I spent every ounce of my being
portraying this idea
645
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,160
that everything was fine.
646
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:16,240
When, behind the scenes,
I was broken.
647
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,960
I'm really starting to understand
the different ways
648
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,680
an addict can damage the lives
of those around them,
649
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,680
those who love them.
650
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,920
And for Christine in Newtownards,
alcohol was to have a devastating
651
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,920
effect on her family in a way
that she could never have foreseen.
652
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,520
That's a balloon my friends bought.
653
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,520
At my sister's funeral, I thought
it would be a good idea
654
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,080
for everyone to wear purple
or lilac,
655
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,040
just to kind of keep it bright.
656
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,680
Instead of, you know,
black and dark,
657
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,400
we wanted it
to kind of resemble her.
658
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,960
So everyone kind of associates Abbi
with purple and lilac now.
659
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:11,400
She was really looking forward
to her 21st birthday.
660
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,000
I just thought it was a big birthday
and instead of kind of being sad,
661
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,880
we would kind of just have
a celebration of her life.
662
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:29,440
Our mum took her own life
eight years ago.
663
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,680
Just something we've never got over.
664
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,760
Towards the end, Mum's mental health
was really, really deteriorating.
665
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,160
And she would have drunk a lot
in the end.
666
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,360
Mum's decision was based on alcohol.
667
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,080
It wasn't a sober decision,
and she was drunk.
668
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,520
Abbi was only 11 at the time.
669
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,360
A time where she really needed
her mum.
670
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,200
I think when something like that
happens to you,
671
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,520
you're never really the same person.
672
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,840
Abbi didn't have a problem
with drink at all.
673
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,080
She had bad times,
the same as everyone.
674
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,960
Some days she missed my mum - most
days she would have missed my mum.
675
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,440
She went to a party,
676
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,960
and what happened to our mum
677
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,560
happened to another guy's mum
at the party.
678
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,480
And this was the topic
of conversation.
679
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:49,920
My sister told the guys in the party
680
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:55,440
a lie that my dad
was waiting on her.
681
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,200
And she left the party
682
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,400
and walked down the street a wee bit
and took her own life.
683
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:10,400
She just literally got too much
drink and made a stupid decision.
684
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,520
That wouldn't have happened
if she was sober.
685
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,880
Abbi was 20.
686
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,360
Today is Abbi's 21st birthday.
687
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,760
Hi, how are you doing? How are you?
I'm not too bad. I'm not too bad.
688
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,240
How are you doing?
Yeah, I'm all good. Yeah.
689
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,120
How long have you
not had alcohol for now?
690
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,960
So I got three years sober,
and then I relapsed
691
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,920
and then now I've been sober
for almost three years again.
692
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,680
That's crazy. Yeah!
One or two glasses for me is fine.
693
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,280
But getting drunk
is kind of a no-go.
694
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,920
I just don't feel safe
even getting drunk.
695
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,040
And would you say what happened has
stopped you from drinking?
696
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,280
Definitely, yeah,
I would be scared to be drunk, yeah.
697
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,120
Because of how I feel inside
at the minute, I would definitely
698
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:08,320
be scared of the type of behaviour
I would be if I was drunk. Mm.
699
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,320
So, yeah, definitely it's just best
to have a few glasses.
700
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,960
For me, like, the alcohol made
everything a million times worse.
701
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,080
I already had a mood disorder,
702
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,080
but I was pumping myself
full of alcohol.
703
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,080
So you just didn't want to be here,
did you? No.
704
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,360
I, on multiple occasions,
705
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,160
drank so much that I tried to take
my own life multiple times.
706
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,720
And there's only been
one time in my life
707
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:36,120
where I've tried to take
my own life sober.
708
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,160
And all the rest was through
alcohol. Alcohol. Mm-hm.
709
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,480
Have you spoke to any family
before that's lost, like...?
710
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,760
I've never sat down with someone
who's actually lost someone.
711
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,760
And I think as well,
it's like the fear of me
712
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,760
having to know that that's what
I could have done to my family.
713
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,600
It's crazy.
714
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,880
And, like, you do know how much
heartache that would cause,
715
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,640
like, if you didn't wake up, or...?
716
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:08,480
I think at the time when I was
trying to take my own life,
717
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,040
I wasn't thinking about...
718
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,120
Anyone else. Yeah.
Anyone else. It didn't matter.
719
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,960
The only way I could ever describe
it to people was like,
720
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,520
my body felt
like a burning building.
721
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,600
And that
722
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:28,400
existing was causing me
so much pain that the only relief...
723
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,080
I get that. ..was to just jump out.
I get that.
724
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,600
And that's,
that was the closest thing.
725
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,920
That was the thing that pushed me
over the edge to, you know, to,
726
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,640
you know, try and take my own life.
Yeah.
727
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,120
But I think,
obviously now when I'm older, like,
728
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,640
I just would have been passing
that exact feeling,
729
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,680
that exact feeling
of living in a burning building
730
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,960
onto, like, everyone in my life.
731
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:58,200
What you'd be leaving them in, like,
you don't think about it. At all.
732
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,840
And I'm just really sad,
733
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,680
I'm just really sorry
that you've had to go through that.
734
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,720
The tragedy of Christine's story
is hard to take in.
735
00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:19,320
And I'm so glad she's getting
the support to cope with her grief.
736
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,560
It makes me so thankful that
I sought help and got into rehab
737
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,800
and recovery before I totally
ruined my own life
738
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,880
or the lives of my family.
739
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,040
There is definitely cultural
implications as to why
740
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,600
alcoholism can thrive
here in Northern Ireland.
741
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,480
Our nightlife
is built around drinking.
742
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,760
And you just have to ask yourself,
if you're planning a night out
743
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,440
with your friends, and you plan it
without booze, where are you going?
744
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,840
There's not that many options.
745
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:02,520
Even after six years, it's still
weird to go out and not drink.
746
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:07,160
You're almost like apologising for
not drinking, you know what I mean?
747
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,720
It's still very strange.
748
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,240
So I think what's becoming more
clear listening to other women
749
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:31,760
talk about their experiences
of being a mum or losing their mum,
750
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:36,960
it's almost like society
has accepted that men can fall
751
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,320
victim to alcoholism,
but we refuse to see it in women.
752
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,600
We refuse to acknowledge the impact
that has on their lives
753
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,840
and just the things
we expect women to do.
754
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,840
We expect women to be good mums,
755
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,000
we expect them to be all empathetic,
all loving.
756
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,600
I feel like there's a whole
other level of pressure,
757
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,040
a whole other level of stress.
758
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,360
Even just like getting pregnant,
having a baby,
759
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:08,320
trying to be an alcoholic,
addict, and be a mother.
760
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,160
Like, I can't even imagine.
761
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,640
Because, like, I already just see
the stress I put on my mum.
762
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,520
I can't even imagine trying to be
a mum, and be an addict at the same.
763
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,520
Like, yeah, it's just unreal.
764
00:49:33,240 --> 00:49:36,360
So I've come to Maghera
to meet Imelda who is
765
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,440
brand-new at the start of her
recovery journey.
766
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,640
And taking my own mind
back to whenever I started,
767
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,800
like, it is incredibly daunting.
768
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,600
So I know exactly
what she's going through.
769
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,800
Hiya. Hey! Come in. You're very
welcome. Thank you so much.
770
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,520
I started drinking when I was 16.
771
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,280
Started going out quite early.
772
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:10,200
Then it became
like a binge drinking thing,
773
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,440
so, every weekend, you know?
774
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,360
But it was always social drinking
then.
775
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,720
Me and Jay got
a home together and...
776
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,520
..I started having like
a cider at night, before bed.
777
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,920
And then I started drinking wine,
and then I fell pregnant
778
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,480
about three months
after I moved into the house.
779
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,720
My drinking got heavier after that.
780
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:37,480
Fast forward a bit,
I had two more children
781
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,280
and they were emergency sections.
782
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,600
My last child was actually born
the day before my mum passed away.
783
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,400
So it was really, really difficult.
784
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,320
It was just like a year ago,
and it was the very first Covid,
785
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,360
so she didn't get to meet her
or anything.
786
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,560
It was really, really,
really difficult.
787
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,840
Since then,
my drinking just escalated.
788
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,440
Got dark, drinking on my own
to pass out.
789
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,440
My children sort of suffered
from that.
790
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,720
Yeah.
You know, because they seen it.
791
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,200
I felt like it got to the stage
where I was winging it as a mummy.
792
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,600
It was costing me more than money,
basically.
793
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,360
So I decided to go to AA.
794
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,880
Gemma Rose?
795
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,960
You're tired today, aren't you?
796
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:32,000
I actually drank that night,
the night that I came home.
797
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,200
The night that I got the news
that Mummy had passed away.
798
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,560
There wasn't much thought behind it,
799
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:47,080
it was just what I was used to doing
and to suppress
800
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,520
how I was feeling, I was just...
801
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,400
I didn't know what else to do.
802
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,840
She was like the other half of me.
803
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,680
How many days home were you?
804
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,960
If I'm being completely honest,
805
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,400
two and a half weeks,
but it nearly was the three.
806
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,880
This week, I had a slip-up
because...it was on Tuesday,
807
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,640
because just something happened
at work
808
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,760
and then I went to AA on Wednesday
809
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,520
and it got me back, you know, again,
810
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,840
and I'm really just taking it
each day as it comes now.
811
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,800
I haven't actually decided yet
whether I'm calling myself
812
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,000
an alcoholic or not. I don't know.
813
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,320
I want to take control now,
it controlled me for a long time.
814
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,480
Yeah, that's an important thing,
isn't it? Yeah.
815
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,720
I kind of feel as if my mum
is giving me strength.
816
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:52,800
I feel like she's with me
all the time, um,
817
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,800
so I miss her so much.
818
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,040
And I know she would want me
to stop drinking. Yeah.
819
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,560
So that's what I'm doing,
and she's giving me signs
820
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,480
that I'm on the right path.
821
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,360
So that's where I'm going.
And I've her legacy to carry on.
822
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,280
So that's what I'm going to do.
823
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,680
Yeah, that's amazing.
824
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:22,960
I'm still early days, I'm also doing
counselling now on a Sunday morning.
825
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,160
It's going really, really well
826
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,200
and I'm feeling strong
at the minute.
827
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,480
Don't beat myself up any more
about, you know, as much
828
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:35,960
about things because...
829
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,400
You have to be kind to yourself.
830
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,160
I'm trying to do that.
831
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,360
Wow, people left flowers.
832
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,000
All the women I've met
have gone to hell and back,
833
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,480
and not one of them travelled
the same way.
834
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:14,000
Zoe, Sian, Christine,
Imelda, Tamsin.
835
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,320
They've all either lost someone
or nearly lost themselves
836
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,880
through the destructive effects
of the most socially acceptable drug
837
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,560
in the world.
838
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,120
But the one thing I have taken away
from all of them
839
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,640
is that we can survive.
840
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,520
We can rebuild our lives.
841
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:34,080
But to do so, we need at least
two things - hope and help.
842
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,600
I love how it looks,
I think it's just beautiful.
843
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,200
Stunning.
844
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,640
I'm glad I got butterflies on it.
845
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,880
I got her favourite wee quote,
846
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,760
"one day at a time".
847
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,840
I'm just glad about it,
like, all of it.
848
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,880
I do love getting up here,
and seeing her because it's where
849
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:57,400
I'm close to her.
850
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,680
It's the closest place I am to her
851
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,360
is her resting place.
852
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,040
So long as they know
we'll always remember her.
853
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,760
We're always going to remember her
anyway.
854
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,520
She'll be a hard person to forget.
855
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,320
Sad that it's all done,
but I'm happy it's done,
856
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,640
but I can't do it again for her,
this is something I have to stare at
857
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,120
all my life now,
858
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,040
and I'm glad it looks the way
it does, I really am.
859
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,200
If I'm being honest,
I didn't ever think I would reach
860
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,200
the age I am today.
861
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,280
To think of a future is hard.
862
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,400
I'm not going to lie.
863
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,400
I would like to be happy, at least.
864
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,080
Happy, comfortable.
865
00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:46,440
A bit wealthy!
866
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,200
But I would just like to be able
to look back and tell the grandkids
867
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,720
a story that has a positive ending,
you know?
868
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,200
Yeah.
869
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:17,400
I've been in recovery now
for almost six years,
870
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,640
and it was the hardest,
871
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,520
but most liberating part of my life.
872
00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:27,000
I've said it before, and I'll say
it again, I was incredibly lucky
873
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,760
that I had a great support system.
874
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,080
I don't think I would have been able
to do it without them, and I never
875
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:38,480
would have thought I would proudly
call myself an alcoholic one day.
876
00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:41,880
But I am.
877
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,320
Society portrays the alcoholic
very differently
878
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,440
than how I see the alcoholic.
879
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,280
I see the alcoholic as a person...
880
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,960
..with feelings, with a past,
881
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,360
but with a present and a future.
882
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,920
I just want people...
883
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,680
..to see the alcoholic
as a person...
884
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,520
..with potential.
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