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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,120 [ominous music] 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:13,000 ♪ ♪ 3 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,759 [chains rattling] 4 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,679 [creaking] 5 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:47,439 ♪ ♪ 6 00:00:48,039 --> 00:00:51,799 - There may be close to 450,000 bodies 7 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,200 buried in Greyfriars Graveyard, 8 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,320 most of them without coffins. 9 00:00:58,399 --> 00:01:00,759 When you go in there, you are literally standing 10 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,239 on a mountain of dead people. 11 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:10,159 ♪ ♪ 12 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,599 [bird cawing] 13 00:01:18,439 --> 00:01:20,280 There's a legend about the king's advocate 14 00:01:20,359 --> 00:01:23,400 of Charles II, George Mackenzie. 15 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,840 He condemned hundreds of men, women, and children to death. 16 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,400 He died in 1691. 17 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,400 But it's said that he haunts Greyfriars Graveyard 18 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,280 because of the atrocities he committed when he was alive. 19 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:53,879 ♪ ♪ 20 00:01:53,959 --> 00:01:58,719 In the 1700s, 1800s, children from Heriot's School next door 21 00:01:58,799 --> 00:02:00,439 used to come into the graveyard 22 00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:02,280 and dare each other to go up 23 00:02:02,359 --> 00:02:05,000 to the door of the mausoleum. 24 00:02:05,079 --> 00:02:08,199 [child chanting] 25 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,439 [music intensifying] 26 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,879 [clock ticking] 27 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,639 The question of whether I am a skeptic 28 00:02:22,719 --> 00:02:26,800 or whether I wholeheartedly believe 29 00:02:26,879 --> 00:02:29,319 the evidence put before me, 30 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,639 it's more difficult than you might think. 31 00:02:31,719 --> 00:02:38,719 ♪ ♪ 32 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,280 Inherently in me, I'm a complete skeptic. 33 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:55,840 And yet, just the things I've seen, 34 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:02,319 the overwhelming volume of evidence that we collected, 35 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,080 it's pretty hard to ignore. 36 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:08,000 ♪ ♪ 37 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,400 I'd been living in Edinburgh for many years 38 00:03:14,479 --> 00:03:19,439 when I heard a story that changed my entire life. 39 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:26,240 ♪ ♪ 40 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,680 [thunder rumbling] 41 00:03:32,879 --> 00:03:35,080 This was a story that was told to me 42 00:03:35,159 --> 00:03:39,560 by a caretaker at the church of Greyfriars Graveyard. 43 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:45,919 It was a horrendous winter. 44 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,360 [wind howling] 45 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,479 A homeless man came into the graveyard, 46 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,680 looking for somewhere to shelter. 47 00:03:58,759 --> 00:04:00,039 - [coughing] 48 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,120 And he spotted a large mausoleum, 49 00:04:08,199 --> 00:04:11,520 which was George Mackenzie's tomb. 50 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:18,600 ♪ ♪ 51 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,839 [ominous clang] 52 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:48,000 ♪ ♪ 53 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,800 [intense music] 54 00:04:55,879 --> 00:04:57,759 [rocks clattering] 55 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,560 And he fell through into a chamber underneath. 56 00:05:01,639 --> 00:05:08,639 ♪ ♪ 57 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,879 It was a huge pile of decomposed bodies. 58 00:05:14,959 --> 00:05:21,879 ♪ ♪ 59 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,319 A dog walker, who was taking his dog at night 60 00:05:28,399 --> 00:05:29,720 through the graveyard-- 61 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,759 ♪ ♪ 62 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,720 - [screaming] [dog barking] 63 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,959 - Terrified, they both ran for it. 64 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:45,600 ♪ ♪ 65 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,480 Seemed like that was the end of the incident, really. 66 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,800 ♪ ♪ 67 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:54,160 But I began to hear rumors 68 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,199 there was something in the graveyard. 69 00:05:57,759 --> 00:06:00,199 They had woken something up. 70 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,279 [ominous music] 71 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:10,160 ♪ ♪ 72 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,199 I moved to Edinburgh and did a degree in philosophy 73 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:32,600 and English literature. 74 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,720 I had a real passion for history, as well. 75 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,439 I love history. It's fascinating. 76 00:06:40,519 --> 00:06:43,480 And slowly, I got to know the Edinburgh that I know now. 77 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,600 It's got a history. 78 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:51,720 This place stayed medieval long after the rest of Europe 79 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,279 had cleaned up its act. 80 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,519 So it's not just a long and rich history, 81 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,079 but it's also an incredibly brutal and savage one as well. 82 00:07:06,399 --> 00:07:08,360 As soon as I heard the story of the homeless man, 83 00:07:08,439 --> 00:07:11,680 I thought to myself, there's a real opportunity here. 84 00:07:11,759 --> 00:07:16,120 I could do something in this graveyard with this story. 85 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:22,040 ♪ ♪ 86 00:07:24,399 --> 00:07:26,319 I decided to set up a ghost tour company. 87 00:07:26,399 --> 00:07:29,879 We hired four or five guides who we thought 88 00:07:29,959 --> 00:07:31,920 would be good at what they did. 89 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:37,240 ♪ ♪ 90 00:07:37,319 --> 00:07:41,240 However, it soon transpired that we didn't 91 00:07:41,319 --> 00:07:43,639 have to make up ghost stories. 92 00:07:57,319 --> 00:08:00,480 [dark music] 93 00:08:03,319 --> 00:08:07,680 After a few weeks, I was doing a tour. 94 00:08:07,759 --> 00:08:09,240 I'm talking away. 95 00:08:09,319 --> 00:08:10,399 And suddenly... 96 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,399 [intense music] 97 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,439 ♪ ♪ 98 00:08:16,519 --> 00:08:23,240 this man, he just went down onto the concrete floor. 99 00:08:25,879 --> 00:08:27,759 A whole bunch of things went through my mind. 100 00:08:27,839 --> 00:08:30,199 But the first ones had nothing to do with the supernatural. 101 00:08:30,279 --> 00:08:32,759 It was like, should I call an ambulance? 102 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,240 He went down like somebody had hit him with a baseball bat. 103 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:41,080 ♪ ♪ 104 00:08:42,279 --> 00:08:45,320 The rest of the tour was different. 105 00:08:45,399 --> 00:08:48,519 The people inside the mausoleum were scared, 106 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,159 properly scared. 107 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:57,519 And then it happened again two or three days later. 108 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,679 Exactly the same thing. 109 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,200 The guides themselves, they struggled with the things 110 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:08,720 that they were seeing, as well. 111 00:09:08,799 --> 00:09:10,240 One of the guides came in and said to me, 112 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,039 "I saw the scratches appear on someone's face." 113 00:09:18,039 --> 00:09:20,919 Like, they wasn't there, and then suddenly they were. 114 00:09:24,879 --> 00:09:26,600 After that, his whole demeanor changed. 115 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,279 When he would finish a tour, 116 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,360 he wasn't happy and joking about it anymore. 117 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,759 He was disturbed by what he was doing. 118 00:09:42,519 --> 00:09:45,440 [gentle music] 119 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:52,519 ♪ ♪ 120 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,720 - The year was 1999, 121 00:09:55,799 --> 00:09:59,679 and I had just started out on my first proper journalism job 122 00:09:59,759 --> 00:10:01,440 at the "Edinburgh Evening News." 123 00:10:03,799 --> 00:10:05,159 And this is my big break. 124 00:10:14,159 --> 00:10:16,000 I worked with a particularly brilliant 125 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,720 news editor who'd seen a placard on the street 126 00:10:18,799 --> 00:10:20,879 advertising ghost tours. 127 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,960 And I think there was some kind of claim about attacks 128 00:10:24,039 --> 00:10:26,200 or, you know, this kind of vengeful ghost. 129 00:10:26,279 --> 00:10:28,159 And he'd come back and pulled me aside and said, 130 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,440 "I definitely think this would be a great piece. 131 00:10:31,519 --> 00:10:33,399 "Why don't you go along and cover it 132 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,600 and write a feature on it?" 133 00:10:36,039 --> 00:10:37,919 It's a difficult subject, isn't it, because people 134 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,879 are open minded sometimes. 135 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:41,559 Sometimes people are complete believers. 136 00:10:41,639 --> 00:10:44,480 Sometimes people think it's a whole lot of guff. 137 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:45,840 But I was a journalist, 138 00:10:45,919 --> 00:10:48,240 and I was going along there with an open mind. 139 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,360 [suspenseful music] 140 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:59,240 ♪ ♪ 141 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,799 The night that I went along to cover the tour for the paper, 142 00:11:10,879 --> 00:11:13,159 you know, it was an Edinburgh winter's night. 143 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,279 So it was cold, raining, a bit windy. 144 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,039 [wind howling] 145 00:11:28,159 --> 00:11:31,080 It's pitch black. 146 00:11:31,159 --> 00:11:33,559 But you did think, what's around that corner? 147 00:11:33,639 --> 00:11:35,440 You know, sort of crumbling old buildings 148 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:38,879 and things with all the stories behind it. 149 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,159 Part of the tour was to go down into this mausoleum. 150 00:11:44,799 --> 00:11:47,720 And it was cold and damp. 151 00:11:47,799 --> 00:11:49,080 It was very atmospheric. 152 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,320 And then everyone came back out. 153 00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:56,519 And Jan had locked it back up again. 154 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,399 And it was after then that a few people started saying 155 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,480 that they had felt something. 156 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:04,759 One woman has said that she felt 157 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,000 this kind of chill go through her. 158 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,519 Someone said that they felt someone grab them. 159 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,840 A woman also said that she felt quite unwell. 160 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,240 People were really, genuinely frightened. 161 00:12:19,159 --> 00:12:21,080 They were very much of the opinion 162 00:12:21,159 --> 00:12:22,600 that something that they couldn't explain 163 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,200 had happened to them down in that mausoleum. 164 00:12:34,279 --> 00:12:34,919 I went back to the office. 165 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,159 I wrote up the piece. 166 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,320 It got a really good position in the paper. 167 00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:42,279 [suspenseful music] 168 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:48,080 ♪ ♪ 169 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,200 It was a big selling paper at that time. 170 00:13:01,279 --> 00:13:03,679 A lot of people read it. 171 00:13:03,759 --> 00:13:05,360 And the fact that people were talking 172 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,840 about their experiences obviously resonated 173 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:11,200 with other people who'd been in the graveyard. 174 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:12,519 This was the days before social media, 175 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,840 so to kind of react to something you read in the paper 176 00:13:15,919 --> 00:13:17,440 was quite a big thing. 177 00:13:17,519 --> 00:13:19,720 [phone ringing] 178 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:24,120 We got phone calls from people who'd had similar experiences, 179 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,519 [phones ringing] 180 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,519 ♪ ♪ 181 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,360 people writing letters, people sending in photos, 182 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,320 people coming into the offices, into the reception, 183 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:38,039 and wanting to talk to me about their experiences. 184 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,120 ♪ ♪ 185 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,960 There was a woman that showed, it looked like 186 00:13:43,039 --> 00:13:45,320 a kind of burn mark was sort of around her neck 187 00:13:45,399 --> 00:13:49,279 that she said hadn't been there before she'd 188 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,399 gone into the mausoleum. 189 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,960 And then she'd come out and felt this burning sensation. 190 00:13:54,039 --> 00:13:56,039 Someone else sent in pictures of a kind of 191 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,159 hand grasping mark on her wrist. 192 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,600 ♪ ♪ 193 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:07,840 I didn't realize really how much this story would grow 194 00:14:07,919 --> 00:14:11,320 arms and legs, 195 00:14:11,399 --> 00:14:13,360 because there were people all over the world 196 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,399 that would come to Edinburgh and have this experience. 197 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,240 So it was getting bigger and bigger and bigger. 198 00:14:21,879 --> 00:14:23,519 [static crackling] 199 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,279 - Now to a somewhat puzzling story in Edinburgh, 200 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,240 where investigations are underway into a spate 201 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,440 of attacks in the city center. 202 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:34,000 So far they've been isolated to one small area, 203 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,480 but it seems there's little hope of finding the culprit. 204 00:14:36,559 --> 00:14:39,759 Well, to explain everything we can cross live to the capital 205 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,639 and our reporter, Martin Geissler. Martin? 206 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,799 - Over the last eight months, 207 00:14:44,879 --> 00:14:47,840 49 separate paranormal experiences 208 00:14:47,919 --> 00:14:50,360 are reported to have taken place in this graveyard, 209 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,360 the most serious of which came just last week, 210 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,000 when a 28-year-old college lecturer from Edinburgh 211 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,600 noticed she suffered serious bruising 212 00:14:56,679 --> 00:14:57,600 to the side of her face. 213 00:14:57,679 --> 00:15:02,039 [eerie music] 214 00:15:13,759 --> 00:15:16,120 - In the beginning, we were just writing down the things 215 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,759 that had happened to people. 216 00:15:20,679 --> 00:15:23,039 [projector whirring] 217 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,360 But when the cuts and the scratches and the bites 218 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,000 became really severe, we started to record them. 219 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,840 And people would send us stuff. 220 00:15:33,919 --> 00:15:40,559 ♪ ♪ 221 00:15:42,879 --> 00:15:44,799 This one I remember. 222 00:15:44,879 --> 00:15:46,320 She began screaming that something 223 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:50,360 was holding on to her and that she couldn't get away from it. 224 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,039 And then the next day, we got that picture from her. 225 00:16:02,279 --> 00:16:04,679 To begin with, I simply didn't believe it was true. 226 00:16:04,759 --> 00:16:06,480 I didn't believe any of these things were happening. 227 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,240 But then as the months went on, my opinion began to shift. 228 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,399 When the weight of evidence became so huge that I couldn't 229 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,279 ignore it any longer, 230 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,960 I had to accept that whatever this thing was, 231 00:16:22,039 --> 00:16:25,840 I didn't have a good, rational explanation for it. 232 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:34,440 All I knew what it was doing, and that was hurting people. 233 00:16:34,519 --> 00:16:35,840 It's quite severe. 234 00:16:35,919 --> 00:16:38,919 Yeah, that one particularly, that looks like, you know, 235 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,039 that's deep. 236 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,679 I thought, how are we gonna justify it to ourselves 237 00:16:46,759 --> 00:16:49,639 if it kills somebody? 238 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,440 [driving eerie music] 239 00:16:53,519 --> 00:17:00,600 ♪ ♪ 240 00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:16,079 - Poltergeist is a term. It just means noisy spirit. 241 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,720 Most paranormal experiences are harmless. 242 00:17:19,799 --> 00:17:22,160 It's very rare to be harmed in any way. 243 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:25,880 So this is an unusual case. 244 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,079 The fact that the tomb was broken into it 245 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,799 does tie into a long-running sort of theme or trope 246 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,440 in the paranormal that there has 247 00:17:44,519 --> 00:17:46,680 to be some kind of trigger. 248 00:17:46,759 --> 00:17:50,000 Why is there a disturbance? Why do things start to happen? 249 00:17:50,079 --> 00:17:52,640 It's because they're-- well, in this instance, 250 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,480 a tomb was desecrated. 251 00:17:54,559 --> 00:17:58,799 And what's more likely to anger or make a spirit unquiet 252 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,680 than the resting place disturbed? 253 00:18:01,759 --> 00:18:03,400 And it's not just anyone's tomb. 254 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,920 It's this controversial figure in Scottish history, 255 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,000 Sir George Mackenzie, who was responsible 256 00:18:08,079 --> 00:18:11,640 for the persecution of essentially 257 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,119 the majority of Scottish religious people 258 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,640 for decades during the 1600s. 259 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:24,039 ♪ ♪ 260 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,799 He was the lord advocate. 261 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,279 He was responsible for enforcing 262 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,319 the king of England's laws in Scotland, 263 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:34,440 trying to interfere in the religion of Scotland, 264 00:18:34,519 --> 00:18:37,160 which meant that the people that would not agree 265 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,720 were basically treasonous and tried as such. 266 00:18:39,799 --> 00:18:43,240 And the worst offenders were executed. 267 00:18:43,319 --> 00:18:46,039 So Mackenzie had blood on his hands. 268 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:51,759 I'm an investigator with the Scottish Society 269 00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:53,680 for Psychical Research. 270 00:18:54,759 --> 00:18:58,839 We investigate the paranormal in a scientific manner. 271 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,920 This one's fairly typical. 272 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,480 "On entering the mausoleum, I heard what can only describe 273 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:07,480 "as scraping steps to the right-hand side of me, 274 00:19:07,559 --> 00:19:09,440 "though I was alone in the tomb. 275 00:19:09,519 --> 00:19:11,240 "When I sat down, I took my jacket off. 276 00:19:11,319 --> 00:19:15,759 "My mate asked me what the mark was on my neck. 277 00:19:15,839 --> 00:19:17,759 "I looked in the mirror and saw what 278 00:19:17,839 --> 00:19:21,480 "I can only describe as a red burn mark, like a big blotch. 279 00:19:21,559 --> 00:19:25,000 It looked like I had three finger marks on my throat." 280 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,400 Not only is this quite a severe bruise, 281 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,359 but it's basically somewhere you'd presumably 282 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:42,039 definitely notice, if pressure was applied to your neck. 283 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,960 That seems to be really quite hard to explain. 284 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:47,640 However, as a responsible investigator, 285 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,720 I have to investigate things scientifically. 286 00:19:49,799 --> 00:19:52,680 These might be psychosomatic. 287 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:55,000 Once primed to know that these sorts of things 288 00:19:55,079 --> 00:19:56,920 happen in this location, 289 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,680 essentially you hypnotize yourself 290 00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:02,079 and your body creates these effects. 291 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,119 We know from loads of psychological studies 292 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,519 that expectancy can have a tremendous 293 00:20:09,599 --> 00:20:11,920 reality-warping effect. 294 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,640 The mind is extremely potent. 295 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,440 It has this ability to create physical sensations, 296 00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:23,079 even physical injuries, even though it's your mind 297 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,480 over your own matter. 298 00:20:24,559 --> 00:20:32,440 ♪ ♪ 299 00:20:32,519 --> 00:20:34,559 But if it is paranormal, why would George McKenzie 300 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,519 be attacking people? 301 00:20:37,599 --> 00:20:44,599 ♪ ♪ 302 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,599 - I was fortunate enough to be able to rent 303 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,480 a flat in Candlemaker Row. 304 00:20:56,759 --> 00:20:59,640 And it was overlooking Greyfriars Graveyard. 305 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:07,160 So that became our office, as well as where I lived. 306 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:13,920 ♪ ♪ 307 00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:16,559 At this point, I wanted to write a book 308 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,720 about the Mackenzie poltergeist. 309 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,839 I had all of this information. 310 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,599 I had collected all of these 311 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,319 eyewitness accounts, photographs. 312 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,160 I pretty much had sole access to all 313 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,519 of the information about the Mackenzie poltergeist. 314 00:21:38,559 --> 00:21:40,640 I was drawn to this thing. 315 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,160 It fascinated me. 316 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,119 I was making my living out of it. 317 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,920 I wanted to write about it. I wanted to study it. 318 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:48,960 I just couldn't stop. 319 00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:51,759 ♪ ♪ 320 00:21:51,839 --> 00:21:55,039 But it didn't warrant the kind of scrutiny 321 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,200 that I was giving it. 322 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:03,039 It seemed like the only person who couldn't see that was me. 323 00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:10,960 [tense music] 324 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:17,880 ♪ ♪ 325 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,480 - After the initial feature, 326 00:22:23,559 --> 00:22:25,160 the Mackenzie poltergeist story 327 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,359 was proving really popular. 328 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,640 We're a newspaper, so we realized that we wanted 329 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,759 to not just report about what people were experiencing, 330 00:22:33,839 --> 00:22:35,000 but do something more ourselves. 331 00:22:37,799 --> 00:22:39,960 I chatted with the news editor, 332 00:22:40,039 --> 00:22:41,880 and we were sort of throwing a few ideas around, 333 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,240 but thought that one of the kind of best things to do 334 00:22:45,319 --> 00:22:47,720 would be to see whether we could get someone to agree 335 00:22:47,799 --> 00:22:50,440 to perform an exorcism in the graveyard 336 00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:55,279 and kind of almost try and move the poltergeist on as well, 337 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,599 because there were so many people 338 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,119 talking about it that actually we thought 339 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,000 it would be, you know, kind of the next chapter 340 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:01,799 in the story. 341 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,599 [eerie music] 342 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:13,640 ♪ ♪ 343 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,359 It's quite an unusual thing to be asking someone, 344 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,240 even that does exorcisms, you know, to say, 345 00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:30,160 "Can you come to this graveyard and, you know, 346 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,160 try and sort out this poltergeist?" 347 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,720 So the first person said "Absolutely not." 348 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:35,640 You know, "It's just not something 349 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,039 that I want to get involved in." 350 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,440 And then I rang Colin Grant. 351 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,599 [phone ringing] 352 00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:53,720 Colin was a Christian spiritualist 353 00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:56,920 and a minister in a local church as well. 354 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:03,400 He was a warm, open-minded person 355 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,359 and very highly regarded. 356 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,559 But Colin wasn't really sure. 357 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,920 He thought about it. 358 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,359 And he agreed to do it because he thought it would help. 359 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,680 I don't think either of us realized the kind of impact 360 00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:27,279 that it would have. 361 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:33,480 ♪ ♪ 362 00:24:35,559 --> 00:24:38,559 - Claire Gardner approached me first with the idea 363 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,839 of doing an exorcism. 364 00:24:44,079 --> 00:24:46,839 I wasn't particularly keen on the idea. 365 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,119 It was just this feeling with myself 366 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,599 and among the guides that, let's not rock the boat 367 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,599 any more than we have. 368 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,960 But it wasn't really my place to say, no, you can't do it. 369 00:24:58,039 --> 00:24:59,720 And I actually went along. 370 00:24:59,799 --> 00:25:06,880 ♪ ♪ 371 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,359 - The night of the exorcism, it was dark, 372 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,400 and it was cold, and it was drizzly. 373 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,960 I'd arranged to meet Susan, our photographer, 374 00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:31,039 and Jan and Colin outside the gates. 375 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:40,200 ♪ ♪ 376 00:25:49,839 --> 00:25:51,559 Colin walked around the graveyard 377 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,519 with his old battered Bible and some holy water 378 00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:58,240 and some candles, working out where he wanted to work first 379 00:25:58,319 --> 00:26:00,200 and where he wanted to be. 380 00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:05,799 And it was all just very understated. 381 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,759 You know, you wouldn't think that something life changing 382 00:26:08,839 --> 00:26:10,319 was about to happen. 383 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:17,200 ♪ ♪ 384 00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:21,559 He set out a kind of circle of candles, 385 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,240 put a crucifix in the front 386 00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:25,000 and a smaller crucifix at the back. 387 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,240 I remember he sort of paced up and down. 388 00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:33,440 And he was sort of chucking holy water in various places 389 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:35,599 and reading from the Bible. 390 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,119 ♪ ♪ 391 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,400 There was power in the quietness, I think. 392 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:49,480 ♪ ♪ 393 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,039 You know, and I was kinda saying to him, 394 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,720 "What can you see?" 395 00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:05,720 And he was talking about all these spirits 396 00:27:05,799 --> 00:27:09,799 that were trapped and wanting him to free them. 397 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,720 It was a very intimate thing, I think, 398 00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:14,759 that we were watching, of him releasing all these souls, 399 00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:17,319 so there was a quietness to it. 400 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,519 [eerie music] 401 00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:21,119 [shutter clicks] 402 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,039 ♪ ♪ 403 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,079 - [speaking Latin] 404 00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:44,599 [music stops] 405 00:27:49,559 --> 00:27:51,440 - But then once he'd finished this ritual, 406 00:27:51,519 --> 00:27:54,359 he walked towards the mausoleum and got to the gate. 407 00:27:56,599 --> 00:27:58,599 He staggered a bit. 408 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,039 We kind of all went, "Are you OK, Colin?" 409 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,079 And he said, "I'm absolutely not going down there. 410 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,960 "There's something too powerful for me. 411 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:08,960 I don't want to interfere with that." 412 00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:12,240 [dark music] 413 00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:15,039 Obviously, he felt some powerful force that, 414 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,880 you know, even with his experience 415 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,680 and with his belief, 416 00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:24,039 he didn't feel that he wanted to take that on. 417 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,799 He said that he feared reprisals 418 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,920 if he started meddling. 419 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,759 ♪ ♪ 420 00:28:33,839 --> 00:28:37,079 Colin did seem really quite kind of wrung out, 421 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,920 did take a lot out of him. 422 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,119 His wife was waiting for him, 423 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,000 so we kinda said our goodbyes and walking towards the gate. 424 00:28:45,079 --> 00:28:46,440 And again, he staggered a bit. 425 00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:53,519 ♪ ♪ 426 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,559 - Behind these gates was an open-air prison. 427 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,759 1,200 prisoners persecuted by Sir George Mackenzie 428 00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:28,400 were kept in that prison. 429 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,720 Only 269 survived. 430 00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:36,279 The human misery and suffering must 431 00:29:36,359 --> 00:29:38,319 have been terrible in here. 432 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:45,359 ♪ ♪ 433 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,480 For spiritualists and spiritualist ministers, 434 00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:00,640 they would view the situation as souls or spirits 435 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,160 being earthbound or trapped, 436 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,960 like some kind of distilled black ink 437 00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:09,039 of human misery that just sits there. 438 00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:11,000 And people entering the mausoleum 439 00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:12,039 are like blotting paper, 440 00:30:12,119 --> 00:30:14,759 they're absorbing these experiences 441 00:30:14,839 --> 00:30:16,319 and taking parts of those experiences away. 442 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:23,039 ♪ ♪ 443 00:30:23,119 --> 00:30:25,839 From a psychological point of view, 444 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,519 once you start to believe or expect the paranormal, 445 00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:31,960 and that's that cognitive expectation bias. 446 00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:35,000 You start to interpret more and more as being paranormal. 447 00:30:35,079 --> 00:30:38,799 Every time you hear a creak or a tap against the window, 448 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,960 you might start to feel dizzy. 449 00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:42,599 You might start to feel sick. 450 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,519 It becomes paranormal. 451 00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:47,519 [somber music] 452 00:30:47,599 --> 00:30:54,599 ♪ ♪ 453 00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:23,960 - I went home after the exorcism. 454 00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:25,680 Obviously, I couldn't sleep. 455 00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:27,559 I sort of sprinted into work the next day 456 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,000 to write it all up. 457 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,960 When I had written up the exorcism, 458 00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:38,440 we went through a lot of the photos that 459 00:31:38,519 --> 00:31:40,000 were taken from that night. 460 00:31:40,079 --> 00:31:44,200 And the picture editor called me over and said, 461 00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:45,720 "Oh my God, come and have a look 462 00:31:45,799 --> 00:31:47,319 "at one that we've got here. 463 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,359 We just can't work it out." 464 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:56,240 ♪ ♪ 465 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:00,920 - I'd done a few jobs with Claire. 466 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,079 And we worked well together. 467 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,480 And it was just another job, really. 468 00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:08,400 Claire how to interview him, and I had to get a photo. 469 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,559 We got it all set up, got the candle. 470 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,240 And I did have a flash on. 471 00:32:12,319 --> 00:32:13,640 And we kinda took a couple of different shots 472 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,519 and things like that. 473 00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:20,559 And I didn't develop the stuff until the next day. 474 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,039 We were going through the photos, 475 00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:23,799 searching them all, 476 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:24,880 and working on what we were gonna use. 477 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,039 And then this was when 478 00:32:26,119 --> 00:32:27,920 we blew up this one photo. 479 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000 ♪ ♪ 480 00:32:30,079 --> 00:32:31,920 It kinda describe everything, because you've got him, 481 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,559 you've got the candle. 482 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,799 you've got the graveyards around him. 483 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,319 It was nicely lit. 484 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,680 And then this was when we noticed 485 00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:40,200 this shadow in the window. 486 00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:43,200 [terrifying music] 487 00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:50,079 ♪ ♪ 488 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,839 I kept saying, "It can't be the flash," 489 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,799 because the flash wasn't pointed in that direction. 490 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:01,680 And even if it was, there had to have been something 491 00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:04,960 to cause the shadow. 492 00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:08,119 So I went back that day. I checked out the window. 493 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,240 I checked the window sill. I checked the area around it. 494 00:33:11,319 --> 00:33:13,400 There's no statue. There's no bust 495 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,720 of a head or anything like that in that window. 496 00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:18,359 And I went back to my editor and said, 497 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,039 "There is nothing there that could have caused that." 498 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,960 There's literally nothing there. 499 00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:33,000 ♪ ♪ 500 00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:49,400 - Who knows what that is? 501 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,759 You could imagine it's somebody peering out the window. 502 00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:54,039 But this is a perfect example of just 503 00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:56,000 because you don't know what that is, 504 00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:58,039 it does not mean it is unknown. 505 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,160 The story just keeps on going because people 506 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:03,759 want to believe. 507 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,719 - The story continued to generate a lot of interest. 508 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,679 But then I got a phone call. 509 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,239 And it was Colin's son on the phone. 510 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,480 And he rang and said, 511 00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:27,760 "Colin's dead." 512 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,000 And yeah, I just had a moment of, 513 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:31,719 you know, that moment of disbelief, 514 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,199 I think, when you get a call like that, saying, what? 515 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,599 You know, what? 516 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,559 And he said that he was doing a reading 517 00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:42,440 in his shop in Edinburgh, and was nearing the end of it. 518 00:34:42,519 --> 00:34:45,000 And apparently he had said to the lady he was 519 00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:48,360 doing the reading for, "I've got no good news left, 520 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,400 only bad news." 521 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,280 And he had a heart attack and died. 522 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,000 You know, like, all I could think about 523 00:34:55,079 --> 00:34:57,800 was the time that I'd last seen him 524 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,840 at the churchyard 525 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:02,719 and how he was slightly exhausted 526 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,000 and how he'd talked so much about how that exorcism 527 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:07,360 had taken so much out of him. 528 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,800 And yeah, I just thought, God, that's just terrible. 529 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:16,159 And, you know, could the two be related? 530 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,159 [dark pulsing music] 531 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:25,199 ♪ ♪ 532 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,760 - When I found out Colin had died, 533 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,559 I was sad about that. 534 00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:32,480 And this whole thing worried me, 535 00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:34,920 because finally somebody had died. 536 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,320 So what might it do to us? 537 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,000 ♪ ♪ 538 00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:45,039 And it brought it home to some of the guides, 539 00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:47,840 especially, that they were playing with fire. 540 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,159 And one by one, 541 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,800 in the two or three weeks after that, 542 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,039 all of the original guides said, "We're leaving." 543 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,559 It's happy just to cut and bite and scratch you, 544 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,840 but don't push it. 545 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,519 Don't push it too far, because if you do, 546 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:11,800 it's capable of so much more than that. 547 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:18,360 ♪ ♪ 548 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,400 [static crackling] 549 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,039 - [speaking Japanese] 550 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,639 - Colin Grant's death really got the media's attention. 551 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,519 So now we were getting attention 552 00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:37,719 not just from local media, but from world media as well. 553 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,760 We had crews coming from different parts of the world 554 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,519 and filming in the graveyard. 555 00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:45,320 The poltergeist knocked out a couple of people. 556 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,320 It cut and scratched a few others. 557 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,119 But, you know, of course, it didn't do the tours any harm. 558 00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:52,599 Everything it does is good for business 559 00:36:52,679 --> 00:36:53,840 if it does something nasty, 560 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,800 which is one of the dichotomies 561 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,039 about the Mackenzie poltergeist. 562 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,000 And so we continued what we were doing. 563 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,760 Guys, welcome to Greyfriars Kirkyard. 564 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,000 Going by the book of internments and the records, 565 00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:14,199 there is up to 750,000 bodies under your feet. 566 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,360 You are walking on a human lasagna. 567 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,719 [laughter] 568 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,039 - The really interesting thing about this story 569 00:37:26,119 --> 00:37:28,280 of the Mackenzie poltergeist is it's basically 570 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,280 self-perpetuating. 571 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,440 You've got all these hundreds of people, their skin 572 00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:35,000 coming out in scars and bruises and sometimes 573 00:37:35,079 --> 00:37:36,960 burns and blisters. 574 00:37:37,039 --> 00:37:38,320 You've got the spiritualist minister Colin Grant 575 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,239 sadly passing away, and all of that becomes 576 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,159 part of the myth, part of the story. 577 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,960 - There has been exorcism attempts 578 00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:45,760 in Greyfriars over the years. 579 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,079 One in 1999 by Colin Grant. 580 00:37:49,159 --> 00:37:51,320 He came in and performed an exorcism. 581 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,119 Allegedly a week later, he was doing a private reading 582 00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:54,880 in his residence--bang, heart stopped. 583 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,199 He dropped dead instantly. 584 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,559 - I don't regard this as a particular mystery. 585 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,639 He was 66 years old. 586 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,440 There was a history of heart problems in the family. 587 00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:09,159 The family don't regard it as a mystery. 588 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,119 - Some of the cases which seems on the face of it 589 00:38:12,199 --> 00:38:14,119 to have the most impressive evidence 590 00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:16,800 often have the biggest question marks 591 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,199 over them in terms of motives. 592 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,039 And certainly this case ticks a lot of boxes 593 00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:26,199 because it's a commercial enterprise. 594 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,920 For me personally, I still haven't made my mind up. 595 00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:37,480 It could be paranormal. 596 00:38:37,559 --> 00:38:39,840 As a paranormal investigator who's open 597 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,559 to the possibility of the paranormal, 598 00:38:41,639 --> 00:38:44,000 I would say, let sleeping ghosts lie, 599 00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:48,239 because sometimes, you know, 600 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,559 unpleasant or unwelcome things can happen. 601 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,519 The story of the Mackenzie poltergeist 602 00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:57,519 may be the equivalent of basically 603 00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:01,159 people sticking their head in a wasp's nest and being stung. 604 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,079 You know, don't stick your head in a wasp's nest. 605 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,159 [pulsating dark music] 606 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,000 ♪ ♪ 607 00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:15,039 - I thought, I will not be intimidated by something 608 00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:16,719 that lives in a tomb. 609 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,440 And so I was still writing a book about 610 00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:19,079 the McKenzie poltergeist. 611 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,199 In hindsight, we were just, we were ignoring 612 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,320 what was right in front of us. 613 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,239 And then it all came to a head in the most horrendous way. 614 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:39,039 ♪ ♪ 615 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,519 I was out, and I got a phone call. 616 00:39:50,599 --> 00:39:51,719 "You'd better get back here right now." 617 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,159 [ominous crescendo] 618 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,480 [fire raging] 619 00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:03,199 ♪ ♪ 620 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,880 [sirens blaring] 621 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,159 I ran back to my house. 622 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,159 Firefighters were tackling the blaze. 623 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,920 And they eventually managed to put it out. 624 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,159 And I went in. 625 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,559 Everything, I mean, everything I possessed was gone. 626 00:40:34,599 --> 00:40:37,639 I lost everything I'd ever gathered on the poltergeist 627 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,280 up to that point. 628 00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:47,800 My computer was gone. 629 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,519 Two years' worth of notes 630 00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:51,519 on the Mackenzie poltergeist was gone. 631 00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:53,519 The hard drive that I used to back up to, 632 00:40:53,599 --> 00:40:54,679 burned to a cinder. 633 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,440 Everything was gone, 634 00:40:57,519 --> 00:41:00,119 and my home. 635 00:41:00,199 --> 00:41:07,079 ♪ ♪ 636 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:17,159 And yet, none of the other flats were touched, 637 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,800 not even singed. 638 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:19,800 The one above me, the one below me, 639 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,159 on either side--nothing. 640 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,199 It was simply my flat. 641 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,599 The firemen said it looked like a flash fire 642 00:41:28,679 --> 00:41:29,760 that had just gone straight through 643 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,880 and destroyed everything. 644 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,400 Insurance investigators looked at the place as well. 645 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,119 They could not find a reason why the fire had started. 646 00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:45,159 ♪ ♪ 647 00:41:55,039 --> 00:41:57,159 I could have chalked it up to coincidence. 648 00:41:59,679 --> 00:42:01,400 I still, there's a part of me that 649 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,880 doesn't want to believe it was anything 650 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,360 other than just a, yeah, coincidence. 651 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,239 Part of me does not want to believe 652 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:13,480 that an entity got back at me 653 00:42:13,559 --> 00:42:17,480 because I was too nosy about it. 654 00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:20,039 But it certainly looks like that. 655 00:42:20,119 --> 00:42:26,719 ♪ ♪ 656 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:28,679 When the flat burned down, 657 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,119 I stopped being a tour guide myself, 658 00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:34,079 because my heart wasn't in it. 659 00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:35,639 [serene music] 660 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,960 [birds chirping] 661 00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:45,039 ♪ ♪ 662 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,039 I started the tours because I'd heard reports 663 00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:53,719 of something attacking people 664 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,760 in Greyfriars Graveyard. 665 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,000 I didn't expect to find anything real. 666 00:43:02,519 --> 00:43:04,159 I've made peace with the fact that I'll 667 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,320 never know what I'm dealing with, 668 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:07,920 not the full extent of it. 669 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,760 The Mackenzie poltergeist, for me, 670 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,639 for over the last 20 years, has simply been a succession 671 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,760 of unanswered questions. 672 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,320 And so in some way, I have given up asking. 673 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:27,320 ♪ ♪ 674 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,639 I am now on the absolute other side of the world. 675 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,280 I live in Brisbane, in Australia, in Queensland, 676 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,880 so almost directly opposite. 677 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,559 Can't get me now. 678 00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:46,599 ♪ ♪ 679 00:43:55,639 --> 00:44:02,719 ♪ ♪ 680 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:35,239 [shutter clicking] 681 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,639 ♪ ♪ 47718

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