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[man speaking]
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[Roo Powell] What do you mean
playing with me?
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[man speaking]
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[Roo] Like, fully take off
my pants?
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[man speaking]
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[Roo] I think I'm, like,
a little nervous.
[giggles nervously]
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[man speaking]
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[Roo] Yeah, I think
I'm just, like,
a little nervous.
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[man speaking]
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[Roo] Like, I know about it,
obviously, I just might be
a little shy to do that.
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I'm, um...
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I think I'm gonna
take a shower
and go to bed.
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[man speaking]
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Okay.
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[man speaking]
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That was a lot.
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[Roo] Every day,
adults exploit
and abuse minors online.
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[man speaking]
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[Roo] My name is Roo.
And my
non-profit organization
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helps law enforcement
stop them.
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[Roo] Would this be enough
to get a warrant?
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I think
he's part of the cause.
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We have all the evidence
we need.
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[Roo] I'm a 38-year-old
mother of three.
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But with the help of my team,
I transform
into a teenage girl.
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We become the target
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to help protect the underaged.
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[Mark Suda] Roo, I think
you should duck down.
He's staring straight at you.
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[Kelly Becker] Roo!
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I'm coming up there.
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[Roo] I know I broke
character a few times.
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I know I did, I wanted to
challenge him a little bit,
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and I wanted to say
"You're the adult.
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I'm the kid."
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It's Saturday night
in a city in Connecticut.
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For me and my team,
it's the most important
part of the week.
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Is everyone ready?
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All right, so we're gonna
man our battle stations here.
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We're a non-profit
organization called SOSA,
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dedicated to the prevention
and awareness of sex abuse
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and the exploitation
of children online.
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I just got a new friend
on Snapchat.
Like, yeah, this guy is...
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-He only wants photos.
-He only wants photos.
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[Roo] The house
is the setting
for fictitious underage girls,
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each living unrelated lives
in different cities
across the country.
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Let me ask you this,
can you take this
eyebrow and just...
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eliminate a little bit
of the arch that's reading
a little bit too old?
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The team members
are experts in
photo-retouching, social media
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and online research.
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This is clearly
a burner account.
Zero followers.
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[Roo] I know that a night
like tonight, every aspect
of what we do matters.
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So, Flori's
quite popular on Instagram.
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We're doing
a really good job of
getting her verified,
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making people believe
that she's real
and getting her in there.
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She has been
contacted by someone,
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he's an older man.
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[Roo] In order to protect
the identities of those
who find this online,
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we give them each a pseudonym.
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This man will be called Kevin.
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[Shelby] This is,
"Hi, Flori, you're gorgeous,"
"Thank you."
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They chitchat
just a little bit.
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She lets him know
she just moved to Stamford,
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he, you know,
"This is a nice town."
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And then sends
a photo of himself.
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Boop-boop. You see it?
Everyone sees it?
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Mmm.
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[Roo] Adults preying
on minors online
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continues to be
a growing concern.
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Adults send nude images,
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coerce minors
into sharing explicit material
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and groom them
to meet for sex.
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Most perpetrators
go unpunished, and so
they're not fearful of the law
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because they don't think
anyone's, one, reporting it,
and two, able to find them.
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And then he asks,
"Would you like get together?"
"Would you like to go out?"
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Um, and Flori, to kind of
push again
that she's quite young,
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you know, she says,
"I'm too young to get a drink
but I'd love to eat."
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[Roo] He clearly
knows the law.
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He says,
"You would need to be 16."
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-Right.
-Flori's feigning
a little, uh, ignorance,
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and saying, "Oh wait, why?"
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And then he, sort of,
deflects and says,
"We can still grab some food."
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Seems like he's laying out
his intentions pretty quickly,
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-considering--
-And he's local.
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-He's local and he sent
an underwear pic...
-Yes.
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-...in like, the first
two minutes of talking.
-Yeah.
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-Yeah.
-Yeah.
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This man is clearly
looking for sex.
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[Roo] Every adult
that contacts
one of our personas
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is explicitly told
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from the outset,
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that they're speaking to
a 15-year-old girl.
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And it takes our entire team
to sustain that belief.
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Okay, I'm changing into Flori.
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A persona is a decoy,
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a fictitious character.
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In the house, we've set up
three bedrooms belonging
to three teenage personas,
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Nola, Alex and Floribeth.
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When we create a persona,
it's like we're creating
a person out of thin air.
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The hair color and eye color
really do look different.
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She looks different.
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And we've spent time
building what
a teenager's life might be.
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So they have family
and friends and hobbies.
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All right. Let's go be 15.
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We have to create
her community as well.
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So, we're creating
a background, a history.
Where she goes to school.
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Does she takes piano lessons?
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Authenticity is in details.
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This girl's not just
a TikTok queen.
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This is crazy embarrassing.
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So, who are they
in their downtime when
no one else is watching them?
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[Shelby] Floribeth
is half Filipina,
she's half-white.
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Her mom is a nurse,
they've recently
moved from Brooklyn.
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We purposefully made Floribeth
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really emotionally fragile.
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She's never
known her dad, really.
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We put in our due diligence
when we made these characters
real girls
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because they have to be.
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Okay, do you buy it?
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[Roo] I know I am 38.
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In my head I'm going,
"Have you aged out of this?"
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Maybe you can no longer
pull off a high voice."
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or "Maybe you can no longer
pull off being a teen."
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or "Maybe you're out of touch
with teens."
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And no one's
gonna believe you.
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That is
a little nerve-wracking.
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-You tell me what to do with
my body. 'Cause I don't...
-Just like that.
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[Roo] Part of me thinks,
"You have
no business doing this."
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I think I look old there.
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[Matt Monath] For a living,
I'm a photographer
and retoucher
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usually focusing in, fashion,
beauty, lifestyle, tech, food.
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And for the team for this,
I'm the visuals lead.
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Right now, I'm kinda doing
all of the key things
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that would take place
for age regression, so,
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I am taking out any sort of,
like, neck wrinkles,
anything that shows
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Roo's true age,
since we're trying to make her
into a 15, 16-year-old.
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Usually the goal
of the retouching is, like,
make the picture look perfect.
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This is,
"Make something believable."
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[Roo] Kevin requests
a video call
with our persona, Flori.
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Video chats
are a critical part
of our process.
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Shelby, I need my phone.
So you need to post that now.
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Ooh! I'm so sorry.
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Oh, run downstairs,
get the photo
of me and my mom.
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[Shelby] Got it.
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[Roo] Perpetrators are always
concerned they might be
talking to law enforcement.
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Appearing on a video chat
as a 15-year-old persona
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builds an essential
level of trust
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and allows me the opportunity
to gain information
to discover their identity.
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-Can I get a time check?
-[Shelby]
You have eight minutes.
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I am nervous about talking
to this guy at 10:00.
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When I do a video chat,
I mean, I... [chuckles softly]
I sweat my way through it.
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It's very nerve-wracking,
it's intense,
I'm always scared that
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something's gonna give me up.
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Whether it's my hands,
you know, being older,
or my voice.
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It's so hard to pretend
you're someone else,
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much less someone
that's a lot younger
than you are.
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So, it's panicky, for sure.
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I won't lie about that.
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[Matt] What time is it, guys?
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-9:57.
-9:57.
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[Avalon] We don't have
a lot of time.
You have the braces?
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Ah! Braces! Oh, here they are.
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[Matt] And, your laptop can
stay right there, right?
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-[faint laughter]
-Yes.
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He just asked for a live.
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[Roo] Kevin has asked for
a live photo,
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something we can't edit.
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It's a huge risk.
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-[camera shutter clicks]
-We decide to comply.
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Building trust with him
is vital.
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[Matt] Good luck. Be 15.
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[sighs and whispers]
Why isn't he calling?
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[exhales]
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[Roo] If the perpetrator
realizes I'm an adult,
they might expose my account
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or disappear.
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If we lose them,
we fear they'll move on
to abuse an actual minor.
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Oh, my God, he's typing.
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[bleep]
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[whispering] Oh God, oh God,
oh God, oh God.
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It's a relief.
Kevin buys that Flori
is a 15-year-old girl.
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But the video call
hasn't begun
and we're not sure why.
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He said that he is...
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naked,
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and that he can't call me
right now.
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His timing is off.
He needs ten more minutes...
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essentially, to finish.
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To finish some
self-gratification.
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An adult sending
pornographic material
to a minor is a crime.
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So, he's committed a crime.
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I'm not
part of law enforcement.
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So, in order for
perpetrators to be charged
and brought to justice,
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we need
law enforcement's insight.
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Do you this is
one of those cases
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that where there's smoke
there's fire?
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And he probably has done
some stuff that's illegal?
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To me, what you're telling me,
what he's saying to you,
he's a seasoned predator.
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My name Mark Suda
with the Norwalk
Police Department.
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Um, I've been involved
in all kinds of local, state
and federal task forces.
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I'm an investigator
in the Special Services Unit.
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And my unit investigates
narcotics, gangs and vice.
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So, we deal with
a lot of human trafficking,
prostitution cases.
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The way these guys go after
some of these kids and...
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and the predator end of it,
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it's unfortunate for
a lot of families
but that's our job
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and that's what
we're here for,
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to take these guys
off the street.
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Would this be enough to
get a warrant
to search his phone,
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or his computer or his home?
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All you need is
a probable cause.
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But... but we just
don't know who he is.
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We don't know who he is.
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Once we ID him,
pretty much the investigation
starts rolling.
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So, once we get
a search warrant,
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we can go in,
we can search his house,
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take his phones, any tablets,
computers, see where we
turn up with that.
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But, this particular guy
right here,
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there is no doubt in my mind
that he's a seasoned predator.
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[Roo] We need to gain
more information
about his identity.
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[Shelby] Something
that is crucial,
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every time that you're talking
to an ACM,
an Adult Contacting Minor,
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is the way that you're
gonna be engaging
in speaking with them.
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[Matt] I asked Shelby, like,
every little detail,
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because I personally,
am not very, like,
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versed on all the intricacies
of each persona.
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The only thing he knows
about her so far is like,
her mom left,
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lives with her aunt,
because Dad moved in
with a girlfriend.
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I came in today and I had
50 chat requests.
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It can be tricky
when someone's asking you
rapid-fire questions,
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trying to figure out
if you're real or not.
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And they wanna know, like,
"How much do you weigh?"
"How tall are you?"
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"Where do you actually live?"
"What's your sign?"
231
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"When you were born?"
"What's your birthday?"
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We're not using a
16-years-old hashtag anymore
for her, right?
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Instead of hashtag junior,
I've been saying
234
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hashtag freshman,
hashtag 15 years old.
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Like most teen girls,
these personas have the same
username across the board.
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If I say that
I'm a Capricorn on Reddit,
237
00:11:55,413 --> 00:11:56,724
I've gotta make sure
I'm always saying
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I'm a Capricorn
in all my other platforms.
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When I mentioned, you know,
"I'm 15, is that okay?"
They replied,
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"Yeah, why not?"
241
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[Matt] Video call?
242
00:12:11,620 --> 00:12:12,862
[Shelby] Go, go, go!
243
00:12:12,965 --> 00:12:14,206
[Roo speaking]
244
00:12:14,310 --> 00:12:15,724
[Kelly] Uh, sure.
245
00:12:15,827 --> 00:12:17,068
[Roo speaking indistinctly]
246
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[Kelly] I'm workin' on it.
247
00:12:18,482 --> 00:12:21,689
[Roo] Uh, there are jeans,
folded bottom
or sweatpants.
248
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-Here.
-[Roo] Really anything.
249
00:12:24,793 --> 00:12:28,379
[Roo] Without warning,
Kevin finally wants
a video call at 4:00 a.m.
250
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But I'm dressed as myself.
251
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No makeup, no teen clothing,
no wig.
252
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What if he asks to see
my bedroom?
253
00:12:37,310 --> 00:12:39,551
No, other way around.
I need to show him
this corner.
254
00:12:39,655 --> 00:12:41,000
That... has nothing in it.
255
00:12:41,827 --> 00:12:43,275
It's a risk.
256
00:12:43,379 --> 00:12:46,482
But it also may be
our last opportunity
to identify him.
257
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I do not look young here.
258
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I need a new shirt.
This shirt is too dark.
259
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[cell phone ringing]
260
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[breathing heavily]
261
00:13:12,275 --> 00:13:13,068
[Kevin speaking]
262
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Hi.
263
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I can't see you.
264
00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:21,172
[Kevin speaking]
265
00:13:23,241 --> 00:13:25,551
[Kevin laughs]
266
00:13:35,827 --> 00:13:38,000
[Kevin speaking]
267
00:13:42,517 --> 00:13:44,000
Well, 'cause I don't
smile in pictures.
268
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Who's that that I hear?
269
00:13:48,827 --> 00:13:50,344
[Kevin speaking]
270
00:13:51,793 --> 00:13:53,413
That is so cute.
[chuckles softly]
271
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[Kevin laughs]
272
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[Kevin speaking]
273
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[Roo] It's been three days
since a man
calling himself Kevin
274
00:14:05,448 --> 00:14:08,275
reached out to our
15-year-old persona, Flori.
275
00:14:08,379 --> 00:14:11,965
He's sending a photo
right at the outset and...
276
00:14:12,068 --> 00:14:14,413
still talking to her,
even though
she's only 15,
277
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An ACM,
an Adult Contacting a Minor,
278
00:14:17,724 --> 00:14:21,586
will usually go to
great lengths
to conceal their identity.
279
00:14:21,689 --> 00:14:23,620
He knows
he's committing a crime
280
00:14:23,724 --> 00:14:27,137
and he knows the punishment
can be severe if caught.
281
00:14:27,241 --> 00:14:30,931
Our job is to take
the little information
an ACM gives us
282
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and turn it into an identity.
283
00:14:33,344 --> 00:14:35,724
Kevin's still
remains a mystery.
284
00:14:38,448 --> 00:14:39,827
So, what's your story?
285
00:14:39,931 --> 00:14:41,758
[Kevin speaking]
286
00:14:41,862 --> 00:14:45,413
Well, give me the...
I don't know, the paragraph
or, not the full essay.
287
00:14:46,103 --> 00:14:49,655
[Kevin speaking]
288
00:15:02,620 --> 00:15:04,103
How long were you doing cars?
289
00:15:05,275 --> 00:15:07,103
[Kevin speaking]
290
00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,379
Do you have any sons?
291
00:15:11,413 --> 00:15:12,344
[Kevin speaking]
292
00:15:12,448 --> 00:15:13,793
Do you have any daughters?
293
00:15:13,896 --> 00:15:15,482
[Kevin speaking]
294
00:15:15,586 --> 00:15:16,551
So, you have four kids?
295
00:15:17,448 --> 00:15:18,413
[Kevin speaking]
296
00:15:18,517 --> 00:15:20,000
And how many wives
have you had?
297
00:15:22,172 --> 00:15:23,310
[Kevin speaking]
298
00:15:24,413 --> 00:15:28,000
[laughs]
299
00:15:33,310 --> 00:15:34,137
Yeah.
300
00:15:35,482 --> 00:15:36,724
[Kevin speaking]
301
00:15:39,655 --> 00:15:40,620
I don't know.
302
00:15:41,586 --> 00:15:43,241
[Kevin chuckles]
303
00:15:43,344 --> 00:15:44,344
What do you wanna do?
304
00:15:44,448 --> 00:15:45,482
[Kevin speaking]
305
00:15:48,275 --> 00:15:49,172
Okay.
306
00:15:49,275 --> 00:15:50,103
[Kevin laughs]
307
00:15:57,137 --> 00:15:58,206
All right, have a good night.
308
00:15:58,827 --> 00:16:00,000
[Kevin speaking]
309
00:16:00,724 --> 00:16:02,000
[exhales]
310
00:16:03,517 --> 00:16:04,379
[exhales deeply]
311
00:16:05,620 --> 00:16:07,034
I'm sweating.
312
00:16:08,965 --> 00:16:10,862
[Roo] The more information
we gather,
313
00:16:10,965 --> 00:16:13,241
the closer we get to ID-ing
an ACM.
314
00:16:13,344 --> 00:16:16,206
But what we've learned
about Kevin isn't adding up.
315
00:16:16,310 --> 00:16:18,034
He's semi-retired
316
00:16:18,137 --> 00:16:20,310
and he owns property
and he rents them out.
317
00:16:20,413 --> 00:16:22,379
Like, I wanna say maybe
he owns an apartment building.
318
00:16:22,482 --> 00:16:24,068
I think he mentioned
a couple of houses.
319
00:16:24,172 --> 00:16:28,068
Um, he owned
19 car dealerships.
320
00:16:28,172 --> 00:16:30,586
He has a brother,
he's not currently married.
321
00:16:30,689 --> 00:16:35,448
[Shelby] We're hoping that
given these small facts
that he keeps peppering in,
322
00:16:35,551 --> 00:16:37,620
we'll be able to
find something.
323
00:16:37,724 --> 00:16:41,241
I just want a big list
of all the personal details
he's given.
324
00:16:41,344 --> 00:16:45,310
I think if we see it
all together, we could see
how things connect.
325
00:16:45,413 --> 00:16:47,862
[Shelby] He's told us
how long he's owned his house,
326
00:16:47,965 --> 00:16:49,241
how many trees he's planted.
327
00:16:49,344 --> 00:16:52,965
To what capacity
all of that is true
is all up for debate.
328
00:16:53,068 --> 00:16:54,931
Honestly, what it
comes down to is,
329
00:16:55,034 --> 00:16:56,482
all of this information
we have,
330
00:16:56,586 --> 00:16:58,586
we still don't have
this guy's name.
331
00:16:58,689 --> 00:17:00,137
We still don't know who he is,
332
00:17:00,241 --> 00:17:04,034
we've searched via
his dog's name and
we've looked at property
333
00:17:04,137 --> 00:17:05,689
and we still
don't have enough.
334
00:17:14,068 --> 00:17:15,689
He's asking for a photo
of my feet.
335
00:17:18,448 --> 00:17:21,206
[Roo] One of the most
challenging parts
of what we do
336
00:17:21,310 --> 00:17:24,655
is submitting to
a perpetrator's demands.
337
00:17:24,758 --> 00:17:27,379
But, in order to get Kevin
on another call,
338
00:17:27,482 --> 00:17:28,862
we decide to comply.
339
00:17:31,896 --> 00:17:33,862
-[Matt] Does it need
any retouching?
-I don't know, does it?
340
00:17:35,482 --> 00:17:37,379
Not really, those look like
15-year-old feet.
341
00:17:37,482 --> 00:17:38,448
[notification chimes]
342
00:17:40,620 --> 00:17:42,620
[cell phone ringing]
343
00:17:45,793 --> 00:17:46,758
[call connects]
344
00:17:48,758 --> 00:17:51,241
[Kevin speaking]
345
00:17:54,137 --> 00:17:56,931
[laughs]
346
00:17:57,034 --> 00:17:58,724
Okay, what's your
favorite restaurant?
347
00:17:59,689 --> 00:18:03,482
[Kevin speaking]
348
00:18:03,586 --> 00:18:06,413
Do you live downtown?
Do you... Can you, like, walk
down to all the cool spots?
349
00:18:07,344 --> 00:18:08,413
[Kevin speaking]
350
00:18:10,896 --> 00:18:13,448
I told you to ask me some
and you didn't
have any for me.
351
00:18:14,310 --> 00:18:15,344
[Kevin speaking]
352
00:18:19,068 --> 00:18:22,758
[Roo] Kevin seems to know
exactly how much information
to give us
353
00:18:22,862 --> 00:18:24,172
or how little
354
00:18:24,275 --> 00:18:26,206
to keep from
revealing his identity.
355
00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:27,862
He said he'd
recently remodeled.
356
00:18:27,965 --> 00:18:30,068
So, I noticed here
that the curtains changed.
357
00:18:30,172 --> 00:18:31,862
Same bathroom each time.
358
00:18:31,965 --> 00:18:33,931
So, we know it's his home,
not a hotel.
359
00:18:34,034 --> 00:18:36,793
I'm just trying to
dump everything
I have got so far.
360
00:18:38,344 --> 00:18:39,482
[Kevin speaking]
361
00:18:42,103 --> 00:18:44,655
[laughs]
362
00:18:48,551 --> 00:18:50,758
[Roo] We've hit a wall
with Kevin.
363
00:18:50,862 --> 00:18:54,310
And the next morning
a concerning new ACM
reaches out to Flori.
364
00:19:03,103 --> 00:19:06,137
He's claiming to be 50.
365
00:19:06,241 --> 00:19:08,655
He looks like
he's at least 60.
366
00:19:08,758 --> 00:19:11,137
What's interesting
is that his display name
367
00:19:11,241 --> 00:19:13,517
seems to be a first name
and a last name.
368
00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:17,896
So, I am going to
look it up and see
if I can actually find him.
369
00:19:20,448 --> 00:19:21,931
It is not a fake name.
370
00:19:22,551 --> 00:19:25,206
I have an address
371
00:19:26,551 --> 00:19:27,827
and a landline.
372
00:19:37,965 --> 00:19:41,344
So, this tactic that
he's using is what we call
the "white knight" tactic.
373
00:19:41,448 --> 00:19:44,793
They start-off by saying
"The Internet is
a scary place,
374
00:19:44,896 --> 00:19:47,241
you have to watch out
for bad guys. But not me."
375
00:19:47,344 --> 00:19:49,482
It's a way for them to get
a teenager to trust them.
376
00:20:14,275 --> 00:20:17,344
[Roo] He just sent
naked photos to Flori,
377
00:20:17,448 --> 00:20:19,034
who he knows is 15.
378
00:20:19,758 --> 00:20:21,034
He knows it's a crime.
379
00:20:21,689 --> 00:20:23,068
And he just does not care.
380
00:20:25,172 --> 00:20:27,517
Mitch's name
and nude photograph
381
00:20:27,620 --> 00:20:30,586
are all we need
to turn his case
over to the authorities.
382
00:20:32,724 --> 00:20:35,034
Later that night,
15-year-old Flori
383
00:20:35,137 --> 00:20:38,482
receives a new, much more
disturbing request from Kevin.
384
00:20:41,620 --> 00:20:43,068
-Hey, Shelby?
-Yeah.
385
00:20:44,344 --> 00:20:45,827
Shelby.
386
00:20:45,931 --> 00:20:47,827
Kevin is asking to meet
at a hotel.
387
00:20:53,551 --> 00:20:54,655
Oh, it's...
388
00:20:55,758 --> 00:20:56,965
15 minutes away.
389
00:20:57,068 --> 00:20:58,689
He's got a hotel
in his back pocket.
390
00:21:05,137 --> 00:21:08,551
He said,
"I'll be in the room with
my bag of tricks." And so,
391
00:21:08,655 --> 00:21:09,620
I said, "What bag of tricks?"
392
00:21:21,862 --> 00:21:23,827
[Shelby] And we've made it
abundantly clear
393
00:21:23,931 --> 00:21:27,724
that Floribeth is 15,
just turned 15 in December.
394
00:21:27,827 --> 00:21:30,689
[Roo] We have a meet
in an hour and 20 minutes.
395
00:21:30,793 --> 00:21:33,000
I'm gonna get ready as Flori.
396
00:21:36,586 --> 00:21:39,068
[Roo] We can't hand over
evidence to law enforcement
397
00:21:39,172 --> 00:21:40,793
until we have a positive ID.
398
00:21:41,620 --> 00:21:44,241
A name and an address.
399
00:21:44,344 --> 00:21:48,034
We do this with
one goal in mind,
and in this case with Kevin,
400
00:21:48,137 --> 00:21:50,482
the goal is not to make
an arrest tonight,
401
00:21:50,586 --> 00:21:52,448
the goal is to get
an ID on him.
402
00:21:52,551 --> 00:21:56,068
We're gonna be, hopefully,
grabbing plates from that
in the parking lot.
403
00:21:56,172 --> 00:21:59,103
And Mark is gonna be
my Uber driver.
404
00:21:59,206 --> 00:22:03,931
Posing as a ride-share driver
allows detective Suda,
our consultant,
405
00:22:04,034 --> 00:22:06,620
to monitor a meet-up
without suspicion.
406
00:22:07,137 --> 00:22:08,758
We need to go now.
407
00:22:08,862 --> 00:22:10,034
[Shelby] Okay, let's go.
408
00:22:16,689 --> 00:22:18,827
[Suda] Think like
a 15-year-old girl,
you know?
409
00:22:18,931 --> 00:22:21,689
You're gonna
go and meet a stranger
for the first time.
410
00:22:21,793 --> 00:22:23,068
-Yeah.
-Um...
411
00:22:23,172 --> 00:22:25,482
I mean, the good news is
I'm already nervous,
so playing...
412
00:22:25,586 --> 00:22:29,586
a nervous 15-year-old
isn't gonna be
too much of a stretch.
413
00:22:29,689 --> 00:22:33,310
[Roo] As our consultant,
Detective Suda
acts as a witness
414
00:22:33,413 --> 00:22:35,793
and advisor
to our investigations.
415
00:22:35,896 --> 00:22:39,482
He helps ensure our actions
and our evidence collection
416
00:22:39,586 --> 00:22:41,586
are up to
law enforcement standards.
417
00:22:41,689 --> 00:22:43,275
He said he's there.
418
00:22:43,379 --> 00:22:45,965
Still, the situation
is nerve-wracking.
419
00:22:46,068 --> 00:22:49,241
If Kevin realizes
I'm not a 15-year-old girl,
420
00:22:49,344 --> 00:22:51,551
there's no telling
how he might react.
421
00:22:51,655 --> 00:22:53,034
[Suda] Okay, so, the hotel's
right in front of us.
422
00:22:58,655 --> 00:23:01,793
I'm just trying to see
if there's anybody
looking out these windows.
423
00:23:02,896 --> 00:23:04,448
[Roo speaking]
424
00:23:07,896 --> 00:23:09,413
[Suda speaking]
425
00:23:20,724 --> 00:23:21,965
[Suda] You wanna get out here?
426
00:23:22,068 --> 00:23:23,344
[Roo] No, I want...
427
00:23:23,448 --> 00:23:24,862
'cause an Uber driver
would drop me off
right at the front.
428
00:23:24,965 --> 00:23:26,310
-Right in front. Yeah. Okay.
-Yep.
429
00:23:26,413 --> 00:23:28,448
-[Suda] He still didn't answer
the text, though, right?
-[Roo] No.
430
00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:31,206
[Suda] Okay, hang on.
431
00:23:31,310 --> 00:23:34,931
[Roo] Before we go
into the hotel,
Detective Suda changes course.
432
00:23:35,034 --> 00:23:37,827
He wants to scout
the parking lot first.
433
00:23:37,931 --> 00:23:41,379
I would assume that
all these plates
are for the diner.
434
00:23:41,482 --> 00:23:45,310
[Roo] We believe we know
the make and model
of one of Kevin's cars.
435
00:23:45,413 --> 00:23:49,172
If we spot it, we can use
the license plate number
to ID him.
436
00:23:51,482 --> 00:23:55,103
[Suda] We got
a temporary reg,
two-seven-[bleep].
437
00:24:03,793 --> 00:24:07,586
Oh, my God, stop.
He just said that he wants to
meet at [bleep] at 7:00.
438
00:24:07,689 --> 00:24:09,896
He said, "Yeah, we're gonna
have dinner.
Then I'll bring you home."
439
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,724
And I said, "I can always
Uber home, too.
440
00:24:11,827 --> 00:24:14,068
I'm gonna Uber there,
but I'm gonna be hungry."
441
00:24:14,172 --> 00:24:17,275
He said, "I'll take you home.
No sex for you. Just food."
442
00:24:17,379 --> 00:24:19,241
And I wonder if that's to
imply that, like,
443
00:24:19,344 --> 00:24:20,620
he's not gonna have
sex with a minor.
444
00:24:20,724 --> 00:24:21,931
That's like
covering his tracks.
445
00:24:22,793 --> 00:24:24,586
So, we still want his ID.
446
00:24:24,689 --> 00:24:26,862
[Suda] We can go to [bleep]
and sit right out front.
447
00:24:26,965 --> 00:24:28,931
And let's try to
watch him walk in.
448
00:24:29,034 --> 00:24:32,448
[Roo] The restaurant
is in the heart
of downtown Stamford.
449
00:24:32,551 --> 00:24:36,724
In more densely
populated areas,
surveillance is a challenge.
450
00:24:36,827 --> 00:24:40,931
Does he want to
actually meet Flori
or will he be watching us?
451
00:24:43,137 --> 00:24:45,655
[Suda] I think he's just
getting nervous, little bit.
452
00:24:45,758 --> 00:24:46,758
Yeah.
453
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,551
So it's gonna be
up here on the right.
454
00:24:49,655 --> 00:24:51,689
And we can just take
a quick peek in.
455
00:24:58,655 --> 00:25:00,344
[Suda] You see this guy
walking across right now?
456
00:25:06,517 --> 00:25:07,413
[Roo speaking]
457
00:25:08,379 --> 00:25:09,724
[Suda] You want to
get out here?
458
00:25:09,827 --> 00:25:10,724
[Roo speaking]
459
00:25:20,172 --> 00:25:21,172
[Roo] Walking in.
460
00:25:23,517 --> 00:25:24,758
[door opens]
461
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,000
[Roo] Um...
462
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,241
I don't see anyone at the bar.
463
00:25:35,965 --> 00:25:38,896
I don't see anyone
that matches him.
It's pretty empty.
464
00:25:40,103 --> 00:25:41,586
[Roo] He's not here.
I'm gonna slip outside.
465
00:25:44,413 --> 00:25:45,379
[Suda] She's already
comin' out.
466
00:25:54,724 --> 00:25:57,310
[Roo] Okay, hey, I see a car
across the street.
467
00:25:58,379 --> 00:26:00,310
He is tall, he has grey hair.
468
00:26:00,413 --> 00:26:01,965
He looks like
he could be Kevin.
469
00:26:04,689 --> 00:26:06,896
Okay, guys,
he's looking right at me.
470
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,310
I think he watched me walk in.
471
00:26:09,689 --> 00:26:11,379
I'm taking a right
and walking on the street.
472
00:26:11,482 --> 00:26:12,724
[Suda speaking]
473
00:26:17,137 --> 00:26:19,931
[crew speaking]
474
00:26:22,551 --> 00:26:23,379
[bleep]
475
00:26:24,896 --> 00:26:25,931
[crew speaking]
476
00:26:31,482 --> 00:26:34,482
[Roo speaking]
477
00:26:34,586 --> 00:26:37,137
I saw a guy
who fits the description.
478
00:26:37,241 --> 00:26:39,034
Walking across the street,
479
00:26:39,137 --> 00:26:40,724
standing in front of
the restaurant and then split.
480
00:26:40,827 --> 00:26:42,965
Leaving his car running.
I think he's here.
481
00:26:43,068 --> 00:26:44,034
I think he's down the street.
482
00:26:44,137 --> 00:26:46,620
[tires screeching]
483
00:26:47,896 --> 00:26:48,827
Who was that?
484
00:26:54,793 --> 00:26:55,931
[Roo] Tonight was a test.
485
00:26:56,896 --> 00:26:57,827
Did I pass?
486
00:26:58,517 --> 00:27:00,034
Have I been made?
487
00:27:00,137 --> 00:27:03,379
If Kevin saw me up close,
or made my team,
488
00:27:03,482 --> 00:27:04,448
he's gone forever.
489
00:27:08,551 --> 00:27:11,758
He's says he's at...
the same restaurant
but in a different location.
490
00:27:11,862 --> 00:27:15,965
Which isn't true because
he was just at the hotel
in the same town, so,
491
00:27:16,068 --> 00:27:17,241
that's why I think
this was a test,
492
00:27:17,344 --> 00:27:20,448
that's why I think he was
watching me as I walked in.
493
00:27:26,827 --> 00:27:30,517
[Roo] That night, I wait
at the house in case
Kevin reaches back out.
494
00:27:31,413 --> 00:27:32,965
But I'm exhausted.
495
00:27:33,068 --> 00:27:35,551
And all I want to do
is go home to my three girls.
496
00:27:36,137 --> 00:27:37,965
Wear normal clothes.
497
00:27:38,068 --> 00:27:41,827
Not be 15.
Just... be their mom.
498
00:27:43,965 --> 00:27:45,482
[cell phone chimes]
499
00:27:48,241 --> 00:27:49,103
Oh, hi.
500
00:27:49,206 --> 00:27:50,241
[girl speaking]
501
00:27:50,344 --> 00:27:53,000
I have three girls.
And they're just...
502
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,413
the best.
503
00:27:55,517 --> 00:27:57,482
And they just kinda know
that Mom...
504
00:27:57,586 --> 00:27:59,965
Mom does some work
around child advocacy.
505
00:28:00,068 --> 00:28:01,758
[girl speaking]
506
00:28:02,620 --> 00:28:03,689
I do.
507
00:28:03,793 --> 00:28:06,551
[girl speaking]
508
00:28:06,655 --> 00:28:08,827
I'll be...
I'll be home Monday, um,
509
00:28:08,931 --> 00:28:11,206
and you and your sisters
have physicals, right?
510
00:28:11,310 --> 00:28:12,620
[girl speaking]
511
00:28:12,724 --> 00:28:14,931
I'll make sure to ask
the doctor for you
to get extra shots.
512
00:28:15,034 --> 00:28:17,689
[girl speaking]
513
00:28:17,793 --> 00:28:19,413
You're a little
adrenaline seeker.
514
00:28:20,896 --> 00:28:21,965
I love you, okay?
515
00:28:22,482 --> 00:28:23,448
[girl speaking]
516
00:28:23,551 --> 00:28:24,586
I miss you.
517
00:28:27,206 --> 00:28:30,344
[Roo] I created SOSA
not just for my kids,
518
00:28:30,448 --> 00:28:34,517
but because
the online world can
feel like uncharted territory.
519
00:28:34,620 --> 00:28:36,793
And every kid needs someone
in their corner.
520
00:28:39,379 --> 00:28:42,689
I think the reason why it
means so much to me is because
521
00:28:42,793 --> 00:28:46,241
it can happen
so quietly and sneakily.
522
00:28:46,344 --> 00:28:50,827
A child can be alone
in her room and parents
can be downstairs
523
00:28:50,931 --> 00:28:53,689
and someone in a house
seven states away
524
00:28:53,793 --> 00:28:56,862
could be sexually abusing her
525
00:28:56,965 --> 00:28:58,793
via her phone.
526
00:28:58,896 --> 00:29:01,344
I did a series of videos
online about
527
00:29:01,448 --> 00:29:04,068
online sex abuse and how
528
00:29:04,862 --> 00:29:06,379
it's never a victim's fault.
529
00:29:06,482 --> 00:29:10,551
And these adults are tricky
and sneaky and manipulative.
530
00:29:10,655 --> 00:29:13,241
The comments I got,
blew me away
and broke my heart.
531
00:29:13,344 --> 00:29:17,241
And it was,
"I could've used you
when I was 12."
532
00:29:17,344 --> 00:29:19,620
"Nobody told me
this in school."
533
00:29:19,724 --> 00:29:22,517
"I've dealt with shame of this
since I was 13."
534
00:29:22,620 --> 00:29:25,103
"I figured since it was
online it wasn't real."
535
00:29:25,206 --> 00:29:27,965
I remember
a couple people asking,
536
00:29:30,172 --> 00:29:31,482
"Can you create a video
537
00:29:32,275 --> 00:29:33,241
as a mom,
538
00:29:35,068 --> 00:29:36,689
[voice falters]
telling me that
it wasn't my fault?"
539
00:29:38,103 --> 00:29:39,896
All they wanted was a mom.
540
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,724
All I wanted was a parent.
541
00:29:41,827 --> 00:29:44,034
All I wanted
was an adult to say,
542
00:29:44,137 --> 00:29:46,482
"What happened to you
was not your fault."
543
00:29:50,068 --> 00:29:54,206
The work we do might not
seem like enough on most days.
544
00:29:54,310 --> 00:29:59,172
But when we think about
how much damage
one perpetrator can do
545
00:29:59,275 --> 00:30:02,241
to a child
or multiple children
546
00:30:02,344 --> 00:30:04,758
and the long-lasting
effects that it can have,
547
00:30:05,310 --> 00:30:06,275
then...
548
00:30:07,793 --> 00:30:08,689
that's enough.
549
00:30:24,137 --> 00:30:27,689
[Roo] Our ACM, Mitch,
continues to contact Flori.
550
00:30:27,793 --> 00:30:30,655
So, we continue to gather
evidence against him.
551
00:30:48,793 --> 00:30:51,793
I think Mitch thinks that
he will never get caught.
552
00:31:03,241 --> 00:31:04,034
Oh, my God.
553
00:31:19,172 --> 00:31:21,379
[man speaking]
554
00:31:21,482 --> 00:31:23,275
[Roo] Uh, yeah, no attic.
555
00:31:23,379 --> 00:31:24,724
It's super bright in here.
556
00:31:26,827 --> 00:31:29,931
It's been nearly two weeks
since Kevin first reached out
557
00:31:30,034 --> 00:31:32,758
to our underage
persona, Flori.
558
00:31:32,862 --> 00:31:35,655
Tonight he messages saying
he wants to talk.
559
00:31:36,896 --> 00:31:39,310
While it's a relief that
Kevin hasn't gone dark,
560
00:31:39,413 --> 00:31:42,655
another hours-long
conversation
will be a challenge.
561
00:31:43,551 --> 00:31:45,586
[cell phone ringing]
562
00:31:45,689 --> 00:31:47,551
It's only audio,
it's only audio.
563
00:31:47,655 --> 00:31:49,448
[cell phone continues ringing]
564
00:31:49,551 --> 00:31:50,448
[phone connects]
565
00:31:51,655 --> 00:31:52,862
Hello.
566
00:31:52,965 --> 00:31:53,862
[Kevin speaking]
567
00:31:53,965 --> 00:31:55,137
Hey.
568
00:31:55,241 --> 00:31:56,068
[Kevin speaking]
569
00:31:56,172 --> 00:31:57,172
I'm good. How are you?
570
00:31:57,862 --> 00:31:59,137
[Kevin speaking]
571
00:31:59,241 --> 00:32:00,620
[Roo] What you doing?
572
00:32:00,724 --> 00:32:02,517
[Kevin speaking]
573
00:32:02,620 --> 00:32:03,482
[Roo] Oh!
574
00:32:03,586 --> 00:32:05,827
[Kevin speaking]
575
00:32:05,931 --> 00:32:08,551
[Roo] I let Kevin do
what he seems to
like to do most,
576
00:32:09,482 --> 00:32:10,758
talk about himself.
577
00:32:10,862 --> 00:32:13,206
[Kevin speaking]
578
00:33:08,586 --> 00:33:09,482
[Kevin speaking]
579
00:33:10,965 --> 00:33:13,068
Okay, um,
I'm actually super-tired
580
00:33:13,172 --> 00:33:15,206
and I wanna go to bed,
but I wanted to say hi.
581
00:33:15,310 --> 00:33:16,379
[Kevin speaking]
582
00:33:16,482 --> 00:33:17,793
All right. Bye.
583
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:19,172
Okay.
584
00:33:20,793 --> 00:33:24,448
[Roo] This time,
Kevin gives us something
concrete to dig into.
585
00:33:24,551 --> 00:33:27,413
Years ago,
he sponsored a car show.
586
00:33:27,517 --> 00:33:31,517
We're hoping
this is the lead
we've been waiting for.
587
00:33:31,620 --> 00:33:35,206
If they shut the street down
that's probably
in some local paper.
588
00:33:35,310 --> 00:33:37,862
Yes, that's what
I'm looking for now.
589
00:33:37,965 --> 00:33:42,413
[Kelly] I think
it was an event
that he's got his name on.
590
00:33:42,517 --> 00:33:45,275
I mean, I'm looking into
what the events are.
There's nothing about, like,
591
00:33:45,379 --> 00:33:46,413
racing at all.
592
00:33:46,517 --> 00:33:48,689
But also, I can't imagine
the city would allow that.
593
00:33:48,793 --> 00:33:51,068
Like, did he really
shut down the road?
594
00:33:51,172 --> 00:33:54,068
If he's a literal sponsor
then it's definitely
more sanctioned.
595
00:33:54,172 --> 00:33:56,103
I mean, this is
massive though,
all these sponsors.
596
00:34:06,206 --> 00:34:08,965
I'm on just the Connecticut
Seaport Car Club.
597
00:34:09,068 --> 00:34:10,655
[Matt] That's what
I tried doing.
598
00:34:10,758 --> 00:34:11,655
It's not working.
599
00:34:11,758 --> 00:34:13,827
Oh! "Drag racers
speed down..."
600
00:34:14,482 --> 00:34:15,517
No, never mind.
601
00:34:16,758 --> 00:34:18,896
I'm really
running out of steam.
602
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,000
[sighs]
603
00:34:20,103 --> 00:34:22,724
How is he giving us so much
and yet so little?
604
00:34:25,793 --> 00:34:28,241
[Kelly] We have
so much information.
605
00:34:28,344 --> 00:34:30,517
Why can't we connect it all?
606
00:34:31,965 --> 00:34:35,206
But I think that is
truly very intentional
on his part.
607
00:34:37,310 --> 00:34:41,379
He's choosing
pieces of information that
don't have a connection.
608
00:34:47,275 --> 00:34:49,068
[sighs in exasperation]
Where does he live?
609
00:35:13,586 --> 00:35:15,482
[Roo] As the authorities
prep to arrest Mitch,
610
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:18,310
he continues to contact Flori.
611
00:35:23,206 --> 00:35:26,344
The things
that he said to Flori,
and knowing that he has access
612
00:35:26,448 --> 00:35:28,793
to minors every single day
613
00:35:28,896 --> 00:35:30,793
is incredibly scary.
614
00:35:38,413 --> 00:35:40,965
He's infiltrated a safe space
615
00:35:42,172 --> 00:35:44,103
and he's around kids
who trust him.
616
00:35:54,655 --> 00:35:57,689
School officials say that
they're working
closely with police
617
00:35:57,793 --> 00:36:00,586
following the arrest
of one of their
food service workers.
618
00:36:00,689 --> 00:36:03,482
62-year-old [bleep]
of Bridgeport
619
00:36:03,586 --> 00:36:06,275
was arrested on
federal charges Wednesday.
620
00:36:06,379 --> 00:36:09,896
Prosecutors say that
[bleep] sent obscene messages
and pictures
621
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,931
to an undercover
FBI agent who was posing
622
00:36:13,034 --> 00:36:14,551
as a 14-year-old girl.
623
00:36:44,551 --> 00:36:45,931
[Kevin speaking]
624
00:36:55,517 --> 00:36:56,586
[Roo] Does she live close by?
625
00:36:57,655 --> 00:36:58,896
[Kevin speaking]
626
00:36:59,931 --> 00:37:02,000
[Roo] Another Saturday night.
627
00:37:02,103 --> 00:37:05,034
Kevin has begun talking
about a woman
he's sleeping with.
628
00:37:05,137 --> 00:37:07,413
He says she's upstairs
in his bedroom.
629
00:37:08,896 --> 00:37:10,137
[Kevin speaking]
630
00:37:10,827 --> 00:37:11,724
[Roo] How old is she?
631
00:37:12,896 --> 00:37:14,310
[Kevin speaking]
632
00:37:20,172 --> 00:37:23,344
[Roo] It's a relief that
Kevin's companion is of age.
633
00:37:23,448 --> 00:37:26,379
If I can keep him talking
about this mystery woman,
634
00:37:26,482 --> 00:37:29,103
maybe her identity
can reveal his.
635
00:37:40,827 --> 00:37:42,482
[Roo] All right.
636
00:37:42,586 --> 00:37:45,482
Kevin is going out to dinner
in Greenwich tonight.
637
00:37:45,586 --> 00:37:48,379
Detective Suda and I
head down to the area.
638
00:37:48,482 --> 00:37:50,793
Once we get the name
of the restaurant,
639
00:37:50,896 --> 00:37:53,068
we'll wait it out
and make an ID.
640
00:37:57,586 --> 00:37:58,482
Okay.
641
00:38:02,551 --> 00:38:03,517
We're almost there, right?
642
00:38:04,137 --> 00:38:05,724
[Suda] Yeah, we're close.
643
00:38:17,689 --> 00:38:19,724
We are in...
next to a restaurant
644
00:38:19,827 --> 00:38:22,448
that Kevin said he's at
currently with a date.
645
00:38:24,172 --> 00:38:27,965
There are two cars that match
646
00:38:28,068 --> 00:38:29,896
the description of his own
647
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,551
and we're just kinda watching
to see who comes in and out of
the restaurant at the moment.
648
00:38:41,586 --> 00:38:43,000
Hold on,
two people coming out.
649
00:38:49,965 --> 00:38:51,206
[Suda] There's two couples
coming out.
650
00:38:54,379 --> 00:38:55,827
[Roo] No.
651
00:38:55,931 --> 00:38:58,206
-[Roo] That's a... Heck no.
-[Suda speaks indistinctly]
652
00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:59,896
-[Suda] No.
-[Roo] These aren't them.
653
00:39:04,241 --> 00:39:07,275
Okay, so the restaurant
closes in 15 minutes.
654
00:39:07,379 --> 00:39:10,137
He says he's still there
having an after-dinner drink.
655
00:39:10,241 --> 00:39:13,275
Leaving soon,
there's only one BMW left
in the parking lot.
656
00:39:13,379 --> 00:39:17,793
So, if he comes out
we've got
a direct line of sight.
657
00:39:18,896 --> 00:39:20,482
We're actually parked
right next to the...
658
00:39:20,586 --> 00:39:23,379
to the one BMW that fits
the description he gave.
659
00:39:25,275 --> 00:39:27,034
[Roo] Okay, we've got
two people coming out.
660
00:39:27,137 --> 00:39:29,793
-[Roo] Oh, oh! Holy [bleep]!
-[Suda] Wow!
661
00:39:29,896 --> 00:39:32,517
[Roo] It's a grey-haired man.
Oh, but he looks so thin.
662
00:39:35,241 --> 00:39:38,034
And a dark-haired woman.
And they're going
to another car.
663
00:39:46,034 --> 00:39:47,689
If he's not here,
then he's been
664
00:39:47,793 --> 00:39:50,620
living out this
really strange fantasy,
665
00:39:50,724 --> 00:39:53,206
pretending that
there's a woman
staying with him.
666
00:39:53,310 --> 00:39:56,793
Conjuring up her pictures,
and video chatting with Flori
667
00:39:56,896 --> 00:39:59,620
and pretending this woman
is "just upstairs."
668
00:39:59,724 --> 00:40:02,000
And to think that
he's doing that
in an empty house,
669
00:40:03,103 --> 00:40:04,379
is unsettling.
670
00:40:07,310 --> 00:40:08,517
[Crew] Here it is.
671
00:40:10,793 --> 00:40:11,827
[Roo] No.
672
00:40:11,931 --> 00:40:13,000
[Suda] Yep.
673
00:40:17,931 --> 00:40:19,758
[car engine starts]
674
00:40:22,068 --> 00:40:23,620
[Roo] I thought
this was gonna be the...
675
00:40:23,724 --> 00:40:25,413
this could be the light
at the end of the tunnel...
676
00:40:26,137 --> 00:40:27,103
with Kevin.
677
00:40:29,689 --> 00:40:30,793
[Suda] I think he's just...
678
00:40:32,137 --> 00:40:34,655
He's living a dream.
Like, his own little fantasy.
679
00:40:34,758 --> 00:40:36,379
And he wants her
to believe it.
680
00:40:37,793 --> 00:40:39,793
He saying, doing
all the right things.
681
00:40:39,896 --> 00:40:41,137
He's saying that he's rich,
682
00:40:41,241 --> 00:40:42,689
he's saying
that he goes to
these high-end restaurants
683
00:40:42,793 --> 00:40:45,275
he says he drives
a high-end car.
684
00:40:45,379 --> 00:40:48,206
At the end of the day,
I think he's just
trying to lure her.
685
00:40:49,896 --> 00:40:51,448
The restaurant just turned
all the lights on.
686
00:40:52,517 --> 00:40:53,413
That's that.
687
00:40:55,034 --> 00:40:55,862
[Roo] Mmm.
688
00:41:00,827 --> 00:41:03,758
Hey boss, I'm supposed to
pick this guy up tonight.
689
00:41:03,862 --> 00:41:05,448
I don't know
if you saw him in here or...
690
00:41:05,551 --> 00:41:06,758
you ever seen him before?
691
00:41:08,379 --> 00:41:09,827
-[valet] No.
-No?
692
00:41:09,931 --> 00:41:12,034
-No, I don't remember.
-Okay.
693
00:41:12,137 --> 00:41:13,689
-All right, thank you.
Have a good night.
-Okay.
694
00:41:21,137 --> 00:41:25,965
Now, that valet guy has been
pumping all night.
695
00:41:26,068 --> 00:41:27,931
He's been chasing
these cars down.
He's been...
696
00:41:29,103 --> 00:41:30,620
He wasn't here tonight.
He was never here.
697
00:41:41,862 --> 00:41:43,310
[Roo] We know
what he looks like.
698
00:41:44,793 --> 00:41:46,310
We don't know
much beyond that.
699
00:41:48,241 --> 00:41:52,241
Was he in the military?
Does he own these cars?
Did he own that business?
700
00:41:55,482 --> 00:41:56,448
[exhales]
701
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,000
I think...
702
00:42:03,724 --> 00:42:05,034
Kevin is...
703
00:42:06,379 --> 00:42:08,034
a deviant.
704
00:42:08,137 --> 00:42:14,068
And he loves the idea of
being with an underage girl.
705
00:42:14,172 --> 00:42:16,862
I think that he has
committed crimes in the past.
706
00:42:18,241 --> 00:42:21,931
And I think he's on
a constant...
707
00:42:22,034 --> 00:42:24,655
mission to feed his own ego
and self-importance.
708
00:42:26,344 --> 00:42:27,379
[Suda speaking]
709
00:42:28,586 --> 00:42:29,482
Yeah.
710
00:42:32,724 --> 00:42:34,896
I mean,
it might not be this week,
and it might not be next week,
711
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:35,827
but we'll get him.
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