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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:19,033 --> 00:00:20,181 Horror movies. 2 00:00:20,205 --> 00:00:23,596 Mutilation, decapitation, torture. 3 00:00:23,620 --> 00:00:25,033 Does that sound entertaining? 4 00:00:26,620 --> 00:00:30,838 In the 80s, horror really dove into this gritty, 5 00:00:30,861 --> 00:00:35,216 grimy, gross, horrific, psychotic exploration 6 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,631 of the chaotic maniac, 7 00:00:37,655 --> 00:00:40,734 the questionably motivated murderer, 8 00:00:40,758 --> 00:00:43,389 the individual who seemed to be after 9 00:00:43,412 --> 00:00:47,137 nothing but a blood lust as punishment for promiscuity. 10 00:00:48,619 --> 00:00:50,310 Or materialism. 11 00:00:52,930 --> 00:00:55,631 Telling stories without really worrying too much 12 00:00:55,655 --> 00:00:59,734 about justifying the horror that these villains 13 00:00:59,758 --> 00:01:01,975 were imposing upon their victims 14 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,457 was exploited in a really wonderful way 15 00:01:04,481 --> 00:01:06,216 by the filmmakers of the 80s. 16 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,700 I'm most interested in fear, the emotion of fear. 17 00:01:09,724 --> 00:01:11,319 People pay to be scared, and when you think about it, 18 00:01:11,343 --> 00:01:12,975 it's real ridiculous. 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,975 Underneath all of it were these cracks 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,147 in the veneer. 21 00:01:16,171 --> 00:01:18,631 This place has a way of making us think 22 00:01:18,655 --> 00:01:21,769 about the kind of future our young people will have. 23 00:01:21,793 --> 00:01:23,596 Nationwide, we found that minor cases 24 00:01:23,620 --> 00:01:25,631 of satanic activity light up the map. 25 00:01:25,655 --> 00:01:27,216 It's 10 p.m. 26 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,412 Do you know where your children are? 27 00:01:31,930 --> 00:01:34,734 It's very much, for me, the decade in which America 28 00:01:34,758 --> 00:01:36,861 tells stories about itself. 29 00:01:38,551 --> 00:01:41,216 There were hundreds and hundreds of horror films 30 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,043 produced in the 80s. 31 00:01:43,067 --> 00:01:44,871 The essence of sex and violence. 32 00:01:44,896 --> 00:01:46,147 It is the explosion 33 00:01:46,171 --> 00:01:48,734 of that video rental market that fuels 34 00:01:48,758 --> 00:01:50,354 the modern horror films. 35 00:01:50,378 --> 00:01:54,424 There's something very sexually attractive to horror. 36 00:01:54,448 --> 00:01:57,664 It's almost like you're attracted to the forbidden fruit. 37 00:01:57,688 --> 00:01:58,906 Kids get the movies 38 00:01:58,930 --> 00:02:01,043 from the horror section of the video store. 39 00:02:01,067 --> 00:02:03,492 Most of the violent movies are rated R, 40 00:02:03,516 --> 00:02:05,216 and aren't supposed to be seen 41 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,043 unless you're 17 years old. 42 00:02:07,067 --> 00:02:08,354 My mom would have died 43 00:02:08,378 --> 00:02:09,596 if she knew some of the stuff 44 00:02:09,620 --> 00:02:11,000 I was bringing home and watching. 45 00:02:12,481 --> 00:02:16,147 So many weird things in the movies of the 80s. 46 00:02:16,171 --> 00:02:18,389 I was genuinely scared. 47 00:02:18,413 --> 00:02:20,723 Maybe my imagination was too vivid. 48 00:02:23,103 --> 00:02:24,826 It is a bit weird, isn't it? 49 00:02:25,655 --> 00:02:27,044 Strange horror. 50 00:02:27,068 --> 00:02:30,079 We just wanted to say things really fast and loud. 51 00:02:30,103 --> 00:02:31,251 You know? 52 00:02:31,275 --> 00:02:32,526 Everything was kind of over the top, 53 00:02:32,550 --> 00:02:33,758 and we were at a party. 54 00:02:35,620 --> 00:02:37,182 The 80s were a proving ground 55 00:02:37,206 --> 00:02:40,562 for horror films to be commercially viable 56 00:02:40,586 --> 00:02:44,688 as movies that also were not intellectually unrespectable. 57 00:02:45,896 --> 00:02:47,562 We will not be showing you extreme violence 58 00:02:47,586 --> 00:02:49,079 in these movies. 59 00:02:49,103 --> 00:02:50,837 We've picked scenes that only suggest the violence. 60 00:02:50,861 --> 00:02:53,112 We want to inform you, not offend you. 61 00:02:53,137 --> 00:02:54,941 It's just as well we're not showing some of those scenes. 62 00:02:54,965 --> 00:02:56,526 I think people would turn their sets off. 63 00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:57,723 Yes. 64 00:02:59,275 --> 00:03:01,286 I could watch 80s horror movies on a loop forever. 65 00:03:01,310 --> 00:03:02,516 It's never enough. 66 00:03:04,723 --> 00:03:05,723 Thrill me. 67 00:04:04,343 --> 00:04:05,734 "Death Ship". 68 00:04:05,758 --> 00:04:07,975 Your holiday in hell. 69 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,044 "Death Ship" is about a bunch of people 70 00:04:09,068 --> 00:04:10,975 on a cruise liner that sinks, 71 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,769 and the survivors get onto this passing freighter 72 00:04:15,793 --> 00:04:19,148 that turns out to be haunted by Nazi ghosts. 73 00:04:19,172 --> 00:04:20,940 It's like it's running itself. 74 00:04:20,964 --> 00:04:24,423 This old ship seems to have a life of its own. 75 00:04:24,447 --> 00:04:27,457 The movie stars Richard Crenna and George Kennedy. 76 00:04:27,481 --> 00:04:30,940 This is my ship, and I am the captain. 77 00:04:30,964 --> 00:04:32,769 It was directed by Alvin Rakoff, 78 00:04:32,793 --> 00:04:35,043 who primarily was a TV director. 79 00:04:35,067 --> 00:04:36,492 And it was written by Jack Hill, 80 00:04:36,516 --> 00:04:39,079 who was friends with Francis Ford Coppola. 81 00:04:39,103 --> 00:04:41,079 They actually went to film school together. 82 00:04:41,103 --> 00:04:42,802 And then afterwards, they went and worked 83 00:04:42,826 --> 00:04:45,550 for Roger Corman on a movie called "The Terror". 84 00:04:51,550 --> 00:04:54,733 "Death Ship" was a very early example of Canuxploitation, 85 00:04:54,757 --> 00:04:57,630 which was something created by the Canadian government. 86 00:04:57,654 --> 00:05:01,079 There was a tax break that allowed it to be easier 87 00:05:01,103 --> 00:05:03,838 for Canadian filmmakers to make movies. 88 00:05:03,862 --> 00:05:05,319 Thanks to Canuxploitation, 89 00:05:05,343 --> 00:05:07,802 there were a lot more Canadian horror films that were made, 90 00:05:07,826 --> 00:05:11,009 as long as they included Canadian actors and crew. 91 00:05:11,033 --> 00:05:12,872 We commit her soul, 92 00:05:12,896 --> 00:05:14,665 and we commit her body 93 00:05:14,689 --> 00:05:15,872 to the deep! 94 00:05:15,896 --> 00:05:17,000 No! 95 00:05:18,723 --> 00:05:20,975 It's not a very bloody film, 96 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,250 but it's a very disgusting film. 97 00:05:23,274 --> 00:05:25,319 It's blood! 98 00:05:25,343 --> 00:05:27,043 It's blood! 99 00:05:27,067 --> 00:05:27,976 Hold on! 100 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,389 There's moments in the film 101 00:05:29,413 --> 00:05:33,423 where they discover what the ship is. 102 00:05:33,447 --> 00:05:35,355 They're going through the bowels, 103 00:05:35,379 --> 00:05:37,423 and they start opening drawers, 104 00:05:37,447 --> 00:05:39,596 and they're finding gold teeth, 105 00:05:39,620 --> 00:05:43,654 things that were leftover from tortured prisoners. 106 00:05:44,481 --> 00:05:45,481 Still running. 107 00:05:48,137 --> 00:05:49,492 And it makes the film a lot darker 108 00:05:49,516 --> 00:05:50,975 than you would initially think. 109 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,250 Let's get the hell out of here! 110 00:05:52,274 --> 00:05:53,274 Go! 111 00:05:57,723 --> 00:05:59,838 Watching it now, it doesn't have as great an impact 112 00:05:59,862 --> 00:06:02,000 as it would have back in 1980. 113 00:06:04,067 --> 00:06:06,000 It hit harder back then. 114 00:06:12,033 --> 00:06:14,896 Because that was so much closer to the Holocaust. 115 00:06:26,550 --> 00:06:28,872 Something terrifying has happened 116 00:06:28,896 --> 00:06:29,940 to the children. 117 00:06:29,964 --> 00:06:32,733 Pray you never meet them. 118 00:06:32,757 --> 00:06:35,699 So many of these movies have these idyllic beginnings. 119 00:06:35,723 --> 00:06:37,112 It's like, look at this town, 120 00:06:37,137 --> 00:06:39,389 look at these beautiful little white children on a bus. 121 00:06:39,413 --> 00:06:40,665 They're singing. 122 00:06:40,689 --> 00:06:43,862 They love their life, it's great. 123 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,043 There's a toxic plant, there's a leak, 124 00:06:47,067 --> 00:06:49,975 and the leak is, like, leaking into the ground. 125 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,596 This yellow mist is coming off of this toxic stuff. 126 00:06:54,620 --> 00:06:56,216 Then we cut to the kids. 127 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,216 ♪ Jolly, we love everybody 128 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,665 And they all drive through this yellow mist. 129 00:07:01,689 --> 00:07:04,423 So we know something bad is going to happen. 130 00:07:04,447 --> 00:07:07,596 ♪ Cheers to the bus driver, the bus driver ♪ 131 00:07:07,620 --> 00:07:10,630 The kids never come home from school. 132 00:07:10,654 --> 00:07:14,665 They find the bus abandoned by a cemetery. 133 00:07:14,689 --> 00:07:15,665 Convenient. 134 00:07:15,689 --> 00:07:16,872 I just found the school bus, 135 00:07:16,896 --> 00:07:19,355 about 100 yards from the Ghoul place. 136 00:07:19,379 --> 00:07:20,481 Motor's still running, 137 00:07:21,930 --> 00:07:23,112 but no Fred, no kids. 138 00:07:23,137 --> 00:07:26,250 This idea of creepy kids is very pervasive. 139 00:07:26,274 --> 00:07:29,389 It's universally scary, because you don't want 140 00:07:29,413 --> 00:07:31,043 to fear your child. 141 00:07:31,067 --> 00:07:33,000 Daddy! 142 00:07:36,620 --> 00:07:38,457 You want to protect your children. 143 00:07:38,481 --> 00:07:40,872 These evil kids are different, because they smile at you, 144 00:07:40,896 --> 00:07:42,112 and they reach for you, 145 00:07:42,137 --> 00:07:44,586 and it's very hard to not go to them. 146 00:07:50,206 --> 00:07:51,389 And when children will kill you, 147 00:07:51,413 --> 00:07:52,733 it's just terrifying. 148 00:07:52,757 --> 00:07:55,379 Particularly if they're, like, void of a soul. 149 00:07:56,793 --> 00:07:59,043 Evil kids are always gonna be scary. 150 00:07:59,067 --> 00:08:00,067 Whoa. 151 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,009 Whatever did this Billy, got Harry too. 152 00:08:03,033 --> 00:08:05,699 Then once it gets into the suspense part of the film, 153 00:08:05,723 --> 00:08:07,413 I'm like, I know this music. 154 00:08:09,723 --> 00:08:10,723 Mommy! 155 00:08:13,689 --> 00:08:16,216 This is kind of the same exact score 156 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,043 as "Friday the 13th". 157 00:08:18,067 --> 00:08:19,492 It had a lot of 158 00:08:19,516 --> 00:08:21,862 without the ch-ch-ch, ah-ah-ah. 159 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,665 The score of this movie is by Harry Manfredini. 160 00:08:27,689 --> 00:08:31,562 Of course, "Friday the 13th" came out in May of 1980, 161 00:08:31,586 --> 00:08:34,182 and "The Children" came out in June. 162 00:08:34,206 --> 00:08:36,907 Oh my god! 163 00:08:36,931 --> 00:08:38,389 Daddy! 164 00:08:38,413 --> 00:08:41,596 Harry Manfredini's score was more than the budget 165 00:08:41,620 --> 00:08:43,493 for the actual filming of the movie. 166 00:08:43,517 --> 00:08:45,965 Well, you get some violins and you make them scream. 167 00:08:52,895 --> 00:08:55,182 I had more money to spend. 168 00:08:55,206 --> 00:09:00,136 So, consequently it opens up way more choices. 169 00:09:01,586 --> 00:09:04,493 There was a score by Jerry Goldsmith called "Coma" 170 00:09:04,517 --> 00:09:06,493 where all the violins go 171 00:09:06,517 --> 00:09:08,700 like that, and I go wow, that's cool. 172 00:09:08,724 --> 00:09:10,216 That's effective. 173 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,206 And so I figured out how I would do that. 174 00:09:16,793 --> 00:09:17,941 I'd be running from the kids, though. 175 00:09:17,965 --> 00:09:19,148 I'll tell you that. 176 00:09:19,172 --> 00:09:19,976 I'll tell you that and three quarters. 177 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,344 I'd be like, nope. 178 00:09:22,620 --> 00:09:23,861 Joni! 179 00:09:24,965 --> 00:09:25,803 No! 180 00:09:25,827 --> 00:09:27,527 Kathy, don't! 181 00:09:27,551 --> 00:09:29,493 Don't get got 182 00:09:29,517 --> 00:09:32,724 by your child with an inexplicable manicure. 183 00:09:39,102 --> 00:09:40,320 It is not your child. 184 00:09:40,344 --> 00:09:42,389 Little Billy has left the building. 185 00:09:42,413 --> 00:09:43,413 He gone. 186 00:09:56,309 --> 00:09:57,309 "Prom Night" 187 00:09:58,517 --> 00:10:01,907 If you're not back by midnight, you won't be coming home. 188 00:10:01,931 --> 00:10:03,148 Slashers, a lot of times, 189 00:10:03,172 --> 00:10:06,320 especially in 1980 as a reaction to "Halloween", 190 00:10:06,344 --> 00:10:09,802 they weren't necessarily going very deep emotionally. 191 00:10:09,826 --> 00:10:11,734 That real life horror of prom night 192 00:10:11,758 --> 00:10:13,837 is what kind of sets it apart from a lot of different 193 00:10:13,861 --> 00:10:15,009 slashers from that time. 194 00:10:15,033 --> 00:10:16,493 Kill! 195 00:10:16,517 --> 00:10:17,975 Kill! 196 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,975 The setup is so vicious that you really felt the atrocity 197 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,172 of what happened. 198 00:10:25,517 --> 00:10:27,286 Six years later, it's prom night, 199 00:10:27,309 --> 00:10:31,136 and somebody's gonna pay for that little girl who died. 200 00:10:34,033 --> 00:10:36,009 As we go through the high school experience, 201 00:10:36,033 --> 00:10:38,413 which everybody knows is just a form of torture. 202 00:10:39,620 --> 00:10:42,447 Certain people try to rectify that experience. 203 00:10:43,931 --> 00:10:45,975 All these people that had been carrying this secret 204 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,078 for so long, you can't hide stuff like that. 205 00:10:48,102 --> 00:10:49,009 You just can't. 206 00:10:49,033 --> 00:10:49,873 Not for long. 207 00:10:49,897 --> 00:10:51,113 Not forever. 208 00:10:51,136 --> 00:10:54,664 It's been a long time. 209 00:10:54,688 --> 00:10:56,481 Tonight, it's my turn. 210 00:10:58,447 --> 00:10:59,941 The suspense is great. 211 00:10:59,965 --> 00:11:01,113 You know, the fact that it's a backwards whodunit, 212 00:11:01,136 --> 00:11:02,355 because you know, we're trying to figure out 213 00:11:02,379 --> 00:11:04,043 who's going to do it, the whole time. 214 00:11:04,067 --> 00:11:04,908 How about a muffin? 215 00:11:04,932 --> 00:11:05,941 No, cookie. 216 00:11:05,965 --> 00:11:07,148 Like me better now? 217 00:11:07,172 --> 00:11:08,562 There's always red herrings in the movie, 218 00:11:08,586 --> 00:11:11,043 but then, of course, the killer starts picking them off, 219 00:11:11,067 --> 00:11:12,907 one by one, like at the prom. 220 00:11:12,931 --> 00:11:14,033 Kelly! 221 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,700 You've got Jamie Lee Curtis at her sassy best, 222 00:11:22,724 --> 00:11:23,666 and I love her. 223 00:11:23,690 --> 00:11:25,309 - I did it! - Oh, shut up! 224 00:11:26,758 --> 00:11:29,250 She has this little 80s cut, this little flip thing, 225 00:11:29,274 --> 00:11:32,769 which is everything that I needed in my life. 226 00:11:32,793 --> 00:11:34,630 She is not Laurie Strode in this thing. 227 00:11:34,654 --> 00:11:36,551 She's like a popular girl this time. 228 00:11:37,895 --> 00:11:40,286 It's reminiscent of so many other influences. 229 00:11:40,309 --> 00:11:41,700 "Carrie" is in there. 230 00:11:41,724 --> 00:11:44,113 "Saturday Night Fever" is in there. 231 00:11:44,136 --> 00:11:46,700 ♪ The feeling's right 232 00:11:46,724 --> 00:11:50,481 It's sort of this last bastion of disco culture. 233 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,182 ♪ Tonight is the night 234 00:11:54,206 --> 00:11:57,664 Jamie Lee Curtis was dancing her little booty off 235 00:11:57,688 --> 00:11:59,379 in this movie, and I'm here for it. 236 00:12:00,826 --> 00:12:02,148 One of the fun things about "Prom Night'" 237 00:12:02,172 --> 00:12:05,216 is that at the end, the song that's playing 238 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,206 is called "Love Me Til I Die". 239 00:12:09,102 --> 00:12:12,975 ♪ Love me til I die 240 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:14,562 ♪ And keep me satisfied 241 00:12:14,586 --> 00:12:18,216 Don't necessarily expect prom to be the best night 242 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,551 of your lives, because a lot of people could die. 243 00:12:24,136 --> 00:12:25,355 - No! - Now! 244 00:12:25,379 --> 00:12:28,043 This one, along with "Terror Train", 245 00:12:28,067 --> 00:12:30,664 these were the movies that really solidified 246 00:12:30,688 --> 00:12:32,620 Jamie Lee Curtis as a scream queen. 247 00:12:36,895 --> 00:12:38,734 The big moment for me is the end, 248 00:12:38,758 --> 00:12:40,423 and the reaction from Jamie Lee Curtis, 249 00:12:40,447 --> 00:12:42,562 because she knows who's behind it all, 250 00:12:42,586 --> 00:12:45,423 and it's a real traumatic moment. 251 00:12:45,447 --> 00:12:49,586 ♪ Imagine something deep inside ♪ 252 00:12:50,861 --> 00:12:52,700 Watching severed heads roll out on prom night 253 00:12:52,724 --> 00:12:54,758 is pretty fun. 254 00:12:57,309 --> 00:12:58,309 No! 255 00:13:04,724 --> 00:13:06,551 He knows you're alone 256 00:13:07,758 --> 00:13:09,551 And it's going to be for the very last time. 257 00:13:13,758 --> 00:13:14,528 You know, sometimes our dogs of the week 258 00:13:14,552 --> 00:13:15,630 are laughably bad. 259 00:13:15,654 --> 00:13:17,596 This one borders on being evil. 260 00:13:17,620 --> 00:13:19,148 Staten Island slasher. 261 00:13:19,172 --> 00:13:20,457 Love a regional slasher. 262 00:13:20,481 --> 00:13:22,457 This one you have Caitlin O'Heaney 263 00:13:22,481 --> 00:13:23,941 playing a young bride-to-be 264 00:13:23,965 --> 00:13:25,871 who's being stalked by a serial killer 265 00:13:25,895 --> 00:13:27,826 right before her wedding. 266 00:13:30,654 --> 00:13:31,907 And I like when a slasher just tells you 267 00:13:31,931 --> 00:13:33,389 who the killer is at the beginning. 268 00:13:33,413 --> 00:13:34,596 Here's Ray. 269 00:13:34,620 --> 00:13:35,424 Ray. 270 00:13:35,448 --> 00:13:36,586 This is the killer. 271 00:13:38,758 --> 00:13:41,148 "He Knows You're Alone" is a 1980s slasher 272 00:13:41,172 --> 00:13:43,009 directed by Armand Mastroianni. 273 00:13:43,033 --> 00:13:45,493 He, of course, went on to direct other 80s entries, 274 00:13:45,517 --> 00:13:47,907 like "The Clairvoyant", "The Supernaturals", 275 00:13:47,931 --> 00:13:49,067 and "Cameron's Closet". 276 00:13:54,413 --> 00:13:55,700 This one's a bit of an outlier 277 00:13:55,724 --> 00:13:57,113 because it's actually a studio produced slasher. 278 00:13:57,136 --> 00:13:58,355 MGMUA did it. 279 00:13:58,379 --> 00:14:00,734 So it's got a little higher production value. 280 00:14:00,758 --> 00:14:03,688 ♪ It's the night again 281 00:14:05,136 --> 00:14:06,664 It's got your garden variety slasher effects in there, 282 00:14:06,688 --> 00:14:08,826 but there's a memorable head in a fish tank moment. 283 00:14:10,102 --> 00:14:11,527 Tom Hanks' first movie. 284 00:14:11,551 --> 00:14:13,355 America's favorite, Tom Hanks. 285 00:14:13,379 --> 00:14:16,078 I stretched out an extra foot to make sure I'd trip you. 286 00:14:16,102 --> 00:14:17,769 Why'd you do that? 287 00:14:17,793 --> 00:14:19,182 Well, it seemed the best way to meet you. 288 00:14:19,206 --> 00:14:21,941 Apparently, he was supposed to die in the film, 289 00:14:21,965 --> 00:14:23,907 but they cut it because of how great 290 00:14:23,931 --> 00:14:25,286 his performance was. 291 00:14:25,309 --> 00:14:27,423 Horror movies and the roller coasters, 292 00:14:27,447 --> 00:14:28,941 and the House of Horror ride- 293 00:14:28,965 --> 00:14:30,527 I wanna go on that next! 294 00:14:30,551 --> 00:14:33,527 You can face death without any real fear of dying. 295 00:14:33,551 --> 00:14:34,769 Everyone loves Tom Hanks. 296 00:14:34,793 --> 00:14:35,701 They're like, we can't fucking kill 297 00:14:35,725 --> 00:14:37,734 this lovable, likable man. 298 00:14:37,758 --> 00:14:38,907 He's a darling. 299 00:14:38,931 --> 00:14:41,136 We're not gonna murder him. 300 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,734 It came without warning, 301 00:14:56,758 --> 00:14:58,274 and now it's coming for you. 302 00:14:59,688 --> 00:15:01,493 "Without Warning" is from the great Greydon Clark 303 00:15:01,517 --> 00:15:04,457 and it doesn't get nearly the amount of praise it deserves. 304 00:15:04,481 --> 00:15:06,769 It's got an amazing cast, with Jack Palance, 305 00:15:06,793 --> 00:15:09,562 and Martin Landau, who at the time was mostly known 306 00:15:09,586 --> 00:15:12,907 for "Space: 1999" and "Mission Impossible". 307 00:15:12,931 --> 00:15:15,630 And he's playing this wild-haired conspiracy nut, 308 00:15:15,654 --> 00:15:17,596 who's the only one who knows about the alien, 309 00:15:17,620 --> 00:15:18,769 and no one believes him. 310 00:15:18,793 --> 00:15:20,423 Look, I warned you! 311 00:15:20,447 --> 00:15:21,562 When they start eating on you, 312 00:15:21,586 --> 00:15:23,067 don't come to me for help, 313 00:15:24,136 --> 00:15:25,286 because you ain't getting any. 314 00:15:25,309 --> 00:15:26,664 You've got this gigantic alien 315 00:15:26,688 --> 00:15:28,724 who's on earth to hunt humans. 316 00:15:29,931 --> 00:15:32,975 It throws these little parasitic alien frisbees 317 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,344 that latch onto people. 318 00:15:37,724 --> 00:15:39,734 The movie was shot by Dean Cundey, 319 00:15:39,758 --> 00:15:42,941 who is the award-winning cinematographer of "The Thing", 320 00:15:42,965 --> 00:15:45,551 as well as numerous other John Carpenter films. 321 00:15:47,447 --> 00:15:50,734 In 1987 during a press tour, Arnold Schwarzenegger 322 00:15:50,758 --> 00:15:53,493 stated that the movie "Without Warning" 323 00:15:53,517 --> 00:15:56,344 was a direct influence on the movie "Predator". 324 00:15:57,758 --> 00:16:01,216 It's done really well, and it's such a creepy-looking alien, 325 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,182 when I saw it when I was little, 326 00:16:03,206 --> 00:16:05,562 it scared the hell out of me. 327 00:16:05,586 --> 00:16:07,078 And who's in the costume? 328 00:16:07,102 --> 00:16:09,793 Kevin Peter Hall, who was in the costume of the Predator. 329 00:16:11,274 --> 00:16:13,975 The movie made its way to a company called Filmways, 330 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,320 who didn't want to release it. 331 00:16:15,344 --> 00:16:17,975 They actually wanted to bury the film 332 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,148 Greydon Clark had to threaten to sue 333 00:16:20,172 --> 00:16:22,000 in order to get the film released. 334 00:16:23,861 --> 00:16:26,320 Knowing this was the creative spark for "Predator", 335 00:16:26,344 --> 00:16:27,871 you should absolutely check it out, 336 00:16:27,895 --> 00:16:30,043 especially if you love that film. 337 00:16:30,067 --> 00:16:32,344 You can see the influence coming from here. 338 00:16:44,688 --> 00:16:46,975 By the time they believe in him, 339 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,136 it will be too late. 340 00:16:50,067 --> 00:16:51,423 "The Boogeyman". 341 00:16:51,447 --> 00:16:52,562 Rated R. 342 00:16:52,586 --> 00:16:54,871 In classic slasher tradition, 343 00:16:54,895 --> 00:16:57,769 this movie starts with a prologue with children, 344 00:16:57,793 --> 00:17:00,700 who are being traumatized in some way. 345 00:17:00,724 --> 00:17:02,596 Its "Halloween" DNA is very present 346 00:17:02,620 --> 00:17:03,528 out of the gate. 347 00:17:03,552 --> 00:17:05,561 With the music, and its POV, 348 00:17:05,586 --> 00:17:07,700 and sort of a voyeuristic thing, 349 00:17:07,723 --> 00:17:11,803 looking at folks engaged in carnal frivolity. 350 00:17:11,826 --> 00:17:13,009 What are you lookin' at? 351 00:17:13,034 --> 00:17:14,182 They've walked in on their mom 352 00:17:14,205 --> 00:17:15,114 making out with a fella 353 00:17:15,137 --> 00:17:16,654 who then ties up the boy. 354 00:17:17,826 --> 00:17:19,769 The boy's sister, she cuts him loose. 355 00:17:19,792 --> 00:17:22,344 The boy goes on to kill the man who tied him up. 356 00:17:26,550 --> 00:17:28,309 And he gets trapped in this mirror. 357 00:17:35,275 --> 00:17:38,355 He is suddenly a supernatural presence in their lives. 358 00:17:38,378 --> 00:17:40,078 I know he's here. 359 00:17:40,103 --> 00:17:41,423 Who? 360 00:17:41,448 --> 00:17:44,423 When I broke the mirror, I released him. 361 00:17:44,448 --> 00:17:45,906 Lacy, he's dead! 362 00:17:45,931 --> 00:17:47,250 There's a guy sitting in the car, 363 00:17:47,275 --> 00:17:49,758 pricks him in the neck with a knife. 364 00:17:52,481 --> 00:17:54,423 His girlfriend comes in through the passenger side 365 00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:56,895 to, like, give him a kiss. 366 00:18:01,136 --> 00:18:02,906 So they're skewered together, 367 00:18:02,931 --> 00:18:05,596 and it's like a double-death scene. 368 00:18:05,619 --> 00:18:08,078 I never seen a kiss this long. 369 00:18:08,103 --> 00:18:11,113 That was kind of an amazing kill. 370 00:18:11,136 --> 00:18:13,872 It gets very bizarre, only because it's like 371 00:18:13,895 --> 00:18:15,664 three different things in one movie. 372 00:18:15,689 --> 00:18:18,492 Like they were just kind of throwing everything at it 373 00:18:18,517 --> 00:18:20,172 to see what stuck. 374 00:18:25,275 --> 00:18:26,733 Let's just do all of it. 375 00:18:26,758 --> 00:18:29,733 Let's make it a weird voyeuristic kinky slasher 376 00:18:29,758 --> 00:18:34,136 supernatural exorcism cyborg demon thing. 377 00:18:37,517 --> 00:18:39,250 Get away! 378 00:18:39,275 --> 00:18:40,527 There's some unique stuff happening behind the scenes 379 00:18:40,550 --> 00:18:41,733 on this one. 380 00:18:41,758 --> 00:18:43,872 Susanna Love, and Nicholas Love, 381 00:18:43,895 --> 00:18:45,492 actually brother and sister in real life, 382 00:18:45,517 --> 00:18:46,733 playing siblings in the film. 383 00:18:46,758 --> 00:18:49,631 Moreover, Susanna is the co-writer of the film, 384 00:18:49,654 --> 00:18:51,802 and married to her writing partner 385 00:18:51,826 --> 00:18:54,458 and the director of the film, Ulli Lommel. 386 00:18:54,481 --> 00:18:57,250 An incredibly underrated director. 387 00:18:57,275 --> 00:18:59,862 He's imaginative, he's different. 388 00:19:01,067 --> 00:19:03,423 "Boogeyman" was a low budget film 389 00:19:03,448 --> 00:19:05,044 that was incredibly successful, 390 00:19:05,067 --> 00:19:08,826 and that's what really put Lommel over the edge. 391 00:19:14,413 --> 00:19:15,837 The sequel is another interesting one, 392 00:19:15,862 --> 00:19:18,113 because the "Boogeyman 2" predates the "Scream" franchise 393 00:19:18,136 --> 00:19:21,596 in that in concerns a Hollywood production 394 00:19:21,619 --> 00:19:24,596 trying to make a film about the events of the first film. 395 00:19:24,619 --> 00:19:26,527 So it's very meta in that way, 396 00:19:26,550 --> 00:19:29,309 and meta before there was a whole lot of meta going on. 397 00:19:30,517 --> 00:19:32,205 Boogeyman! 398 00:19:42,619 --> 00:19:44,319 "Christmas Evil". 399 00:19:44,344 --> 00:19:46,067 The night he dropped in. 400 00:19:47,309 --> 00:19:49,355 I just love horror set at Christmas. 401 00:19:49,378 --> 00:19:51,586 And in the 80s, there's tons of it. 402 00:19:54,586 --> 00:19:56,561 Christmas is a time when things are 403 00:19:56,586 --> 00:19:59,078 supposed to be a certain way, 404 00:19:59,103 --> 00:20:01,976 and horror films are all about subverting 405 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,527 what it is supposed to be. 406 00:20:03,550 --> 00:20:06,378 And so Christmas and horror really go hand in hand. 407 00:20:10,136 --> 00:20:13,250 Brandon Maggart plays a middle-aged man, 408 00:20:13,275 --> 00:20:14,733 doesn't have any friends, 409 00:20:14,758 --> 00:20:17,319 doesn't have a girlfriend, or anything like that. 410 00:20:17,344 --> 00:20:19,250 Works at a toy factory, 411 00:20:19,275 --> 00:20:23,250 and he likes Christmas a little bit too much 412 00:20:23,275 --> 00:20:27,078 to the point where he starts to kill for Christmas. 413 00:20:27,103 --> 00:20:28,976 I have superlative taste. 414 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Merry Christmas! 415 00:20:32,172 --> 00:20:34,458 "Christmas Evil" is a movie that usually gets 416 00:20:34,481 --> 00:20:37,182 classified as a horror film, 417 00:20:37,205 --> 00:20:41,250 but it's really more of a psychological character study 418 00:20:41,275 --> 00:20:43,147 similar to "Taxi Driver", or something, 419 00:20:43,172 --> 00:20:45,631 where you're just watching this lonely 420 00:20:45,654 --> 00:20:49,654 socially isolated guy just start to crack. 421 00:20:53,723 --> 00:20:56,631 Lewis Jackson was obsessed with Fassbender 422 00:20:56,654 --> 00:20:59,172 and German expressionism at the time of making it. 423 00:21:00,067 --> 00:21:00,977 What are you saying? 424 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,275 I'm gonna play my tune now. 425 00:21:03,792 --> 00:21:04,596 Everybody'll dance. 426 00:21:04,619 --> 00:21:05,528 You'll see. 427 00:21:05,551 --> 00:21:07,561 And adding that art side to it 428 00:21:07,586 --> 00:21:10,147 I believe gives it the more fantasy element, 429 00:21:10,172 --> 00:21:13,103 and Christmas is based around magic and fantasy. 430 00:21:14,378 --> 00:21:16,250 The look of the film is great. 431 00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:19,448 Every scene of this movie glows of Christmas. 432 00:21:20,448 --> 00:21:23,664 Merry Christmas everyone! 433 00:21:23,689 --> 00:21:26,182 The holidays are hard for a lot of people. 434 00:21:26,205 --> 00:21:28,769 Even if you are well-off, the holidays 435 00:21:28,792 --> 00:21:30,837 are a very stressful period. 436 00:21:30,862 --> 00:21:32,862 And "Christmas Evil" captures that. 437 00:21:35,103 --> 00:21:36,010 Harry? 438 00:21:36,035 --> 00:21:37,837 Merry Christmas, Frank! 439 00:21:37,862 --> 00:21:40,596 It's so nightmarish and weird. 440 00:21:40,619 --> 00:21:43,078 You see him tug on his beard and it doesn't move, 441 00:21:43,103 --> 00:21:44,664 like it becomes a part of him, 442 00:21:44,689 --> 00:21:48,413 like a horror version of Tim Allen's "The Santa Claus". 443 00:21:50,413 --> 00:21:52,388 Are we seeing him become Santa Claus, 444 00:21:52,413 --> 00:21:55,136 or is Harry seeing himself become Santa Claus? 445 00:21:56,205 --> 00:21:59,769 Merry Christmas! 446 00:21:59,792 --> 00:22:02,217 It's a movie that I think will surprise 447 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,941 a lot of people the first time they watch it, 448 00:22:03,964 --> 00:22:05,319 especially the ending, 449 00:22:05,344 --> 00:22:07,689 because that comes out of fucking nowhere. 450 00:22:09,103 --> 00:22:10,872 Are we seeing what we're seeing 451 00:22:10,895 --> 00:22:12,596 onscreen actually happening? 452 00:22:12,619 --> 00:22:15,034 Or is this how Harry is dealing with it? 453 00:22:17,862 --> 00:22:19,837 "Christmas Evil" was the title of the movie 454 00:22:19,862 --> 00:22:21,769 that the distributor gave that Lewis Jackson 455 00:22:21,792 --> 00:22:24,388 did not approve of, and actually didn't know 456 00:22:24,413 --> 00:22:25,906 that it was called "Christmas Evil" 457 00:22:25,931 --> 00:22:28,250 until he saw the trade when it was being re-released. 458 00:22:28,275 --> 00:22:30,113 But the film was called "Better Watch Out". 459 00:22:30,136 --> 00:22:32,009 That's what he filmed it as, and that's what 460 00:22:32,034 --> 00:22:33,941 he knew it as, and he still to this day 461 00:22:33,964 --> 00:22:36,664 does not like the name "Christmas Evil". 462 00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:38,976 ♪ Merry Christmas 463 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,182 Fun fact. 464 00:22:40,205 --> 00:22:42,009 Brandon Maggart would later go on 465 00:22:42,034 --> 00:22:45,527 to become singer Fiona Apple's dad in real life, 466 00:22:45,550 --> 00:22:47,976 proving once again that the apple 467 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,413 never falls far from the Christmas tree. 468 00:22:58,034 --> 00:22:59,527 One of the big reasons that horror films 469 00:22:59,550 --> 00:23:01,631 have remained so popular is that it is 470 00:23:01,654 --> 00:23:04,044 a guaranteed way to make some money. 471 00:23:04,067 --> 00:23:07,355 If you don't spend a hell of a lot of money on it, 472 00:23:07,378 --> 00:23:08,803 there's gold in those hills. 473 00:23:08,826 --> 00:23:10,561 There are people out there who are willing 474 00:23:10,586 --> 00:23:13,976 to take a chance on any kind of horror movie. 475 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,803 And the video revolution came along, 476 00:23:15,826 --> 00:23:17,664 and it changed everything. 477 00:23:17,689 --> 00:23:20,906 Now this is a video tape recorder, or VTR, 478 00:23:20,931 --> 00:23:22,078 actually sometimes they're called 479 00:23:22,103 --> 00:23:24,664 video cassette recorders, or VCRs. 480 00:23:24,689 --> 00:23:27,906 The ability to play a movie, or a show, 481 00:23:27,931 --> 00:23:30,664 an entertainment, at whim, at will, 482 00:23:30,689 --> 00:23:34,000 that did not exist prior to this home video revolution. 483 00:23:35,586 --> 00:23:37,700 That's the thing that most people today, 484 00:23:37,723 --> 00:23:39,355 where everything's accessible and fast, 485 00:23:39,378 --> 00:23:42,423 don't realize that it was not like that. 486 00:23:42,448 --> 00:23:45,388 Now, some of the best movies on television 487 00:23:45,413 --> 00:23:46,561 aren't on television. 488 00:23:46,586 --> 00:23:47,976 They're on SelectaVision. 489 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,906 Well, now it was instant gratification time. 490 00:23:49,931 --> 00:23:51,182 400. 491 00:23:51,205 --> 00:23:52,423 Set it today. 492 00:23:52,448 --> 00:23:54,664 It was a whole world opened up to people. 493 00:23:54,689 --> 00:23:56,217 Movies in the 50s and 60s, I mean, 494 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,976 you hoped that a Hammer film was gonna play 495 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,458 in your neighborhood, because if it didn't, 496 00:23:59,481 --> 00:24:01,250 you weren't gonna see it for five years 497 00:24:01,275 --> 00:24:02,388 until it went on television. 498 00:24:02,413 --> 00:24:04,286 You largely couldn't see it at all, 499 00:24:04,309 --> 00:24:06,872 or if you could, you had to see it chopped to pieces 500 00:24:06,895 --> 00:24:08,586 on the 4:30 movie. 501 00:24:13,344 --> 00:24:17,217 So when video appeared, it was like this dam broke. 502 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,596 There was this new distribution outlet 503 00:24:19,619 --> 00:24:22,423 for these films that were able to be repackaged 504 00:24:22,448 --> 00:24:24,319 and given a whole new lease of life, 505 00:24:24,344 --> 00:24:27,700 or films that had only come out in their native country, 506 00:24:27,723 --> 00:24:29,664 then all of a sudden, they had an outlet 507 00:24:29,689 --> 00:24:31,355 in other territories. 508 00:24:31,378 --> 00:24:33,448 "The Curse of the Devil". 509 00:24:35,067 --> 00:24:39,664 The video tape revolution brought a new appreciation 510 00:24:39,689 --> 00:24:42,147 for some of my films, especially "The Thing". 511 00:24:42,172 --> 00:24:46,319 What really began video, like with the internet, was porn. 512 00:24:46,344 --> 00:24:47,287 What's it like to become 513 00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:48,976 one of football's cowgirls? 514 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,492 Debbie Does Dallas has all the answers. 515 00:24:51,517 --> 00:24:54,561 I think the first VHS I ever bought 516 00:24:54,586 --> 00:24:59,286 was a porn tape that cost, like, $80 back in the 70s. 517 00:24:59,309 --> 00:25:01,837 How a lot of us consumed media at that time, 518 00:25:01,862 --> 00:25:04,561 it impacted the way people made movies. 519 00:25:04,586 --> 00:25:06,837 Especially the beginning of the VHS, 520 00:25:06,862 --> 00:25:09,217 all the video stores were private 521 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,803 they're just pop-ups. 522 00:25:10,826 --> 00:25:12,527 They had to buy product. 523 00:25:12,550 --> 00:25:17,550 So they would go out and buy 5000 VHS's for their store. 524 00:25:18,275 --> 00:25:18,942 What did they buy? 525 00:25:18,965 --> 00:25:20,355 Sex and horror. 526 00:25:20,378 --> 00:25:21,596 We cater to their demands. 527 00:25:21,619 --> 00:25:22,390 Whatever, they tell us what they want, 528 00:25:22,413 --> 00:25:23,803 and we try to get it. 529 00:25:23,826 --> 00:25:25,423 And we have a large horror section, 530 00:25:25,448 --> 00:25:27,837 and of course with real heavy nude releases. 531 00:25:27,862 --> 00:25:29,733 We get a lot of films called B movies. 532 00:25:29,758 --> 00:25:33,423 There's distributors who were feeding that pipeline, 533 00:25:33,448 --> 00:25:36,000 and they needed somebody to make the movies. 534 00:25:37,172 --> 00:25:40,009 Those movies, they became products. 535 00:25:40,034 --> 00:25:42,136 They needed to fit a certain mold. 536 00:25:43,344 --> 00:25:45,423 "Halloween" and "Friday the 13th". 537 00:25:45,448 --> 00:25:47,976 These two films dominated the box office, 538 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,976 and then they dominated home video. 539 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,976 Once horror started doing well on video, 540 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,067 that's when everybody realized it very quickly. 541 00:25:57,481 --> 00:26:01,700 The 80s began the period of crapola movies 542 00:26:01,723 --> 00:26:03,147 made straight for video, 543 00:26:03,172 --> 00:26:08,034 only to satisfy the insatiable VHS market. 544 00:26:09,550 --> 00:26:12,355 It was just tons and tons of new horror movies 545 00:26:12,378 --> 00:26:13,561 being made all the time, 546 00:26:13,586 --> 00:26:15,631 especially the super low budget ones. 547 00:26:15,654 --> 00:26:17,976 I think everybody with a camera and 10 bucks 548 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,034 made their own horror movies back then. 549 00:26:21,619 --> 00:26:24,561 Companies, they were also buying cheaper films 550 00:26:24,586 --> 00:26:28,182 that were independently made to put in stores. 551 00:26:28,205 --> 00:26:30,344 And those were your direct to video days. 552 00:26:31,895 --> 00:26:35,217 Shot on video brought the price of making a film 553 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,664 down to $50,000, $40,000, $30,000, and even less. 554 00:26:39,689 --> 00:26:42,250 You could make a movie on Monday 555 00:26:42,275 --> 00:26:44,664 and have it in the video store by Wednesday. 556 00:26:44,689 --> 00:26:46,113 You didn't need a big studio. 557 00:26:46,136 --> 00:26:49,078 You didn't need to go begging for someone to produce it. 558 00:26:49,103 --> 00:26:51,078 You could just make your project 559 00:26:51,103 --> 00:26:52,561 and put it out there on video, 560 00:26:52,586 --> 00:26:54,837 which I did many, many, many times. 561 00:26:54,862 --> 00:26:56,976 Hello darling, and welcome to another 562 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,319 fabulous Thriller Video. 563 00:26:59,344 --> 00:27:00,837 Thriller Video. 564 00:27:00,862 --> 00:27:02,527 We had a collection of horror movies 565 00:27:02,550 --> 00:27:05,044 that were kind of old and tired and bad 566 00:27:05,067 --> 00:27:06,527 that nobody wanted to see, 567 00:27:06,550 --> 00:27:08,906 so I did my wraparound thing on them, 568 00:27:08,931 --> 00:27:10,631 and we released them to video, 569 00:27:10,654 --> 00:27:13,205 and they sold like hotcakes. 570 00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:17,700 Now this one's in kind of a different vein, 571 00:27:17,723 --> 00:27:19,113 jugular vein, that is. 572 00:27:19,136 --> 00:27:21,527 There were more distribution companies 573 00:27:21,550 --> 00:27:23,000 than you could count. 574 00:27:24,826 --> 00:27:26,906 Jack Valenti, the head of the MPAA, 575 00:27:26,931 --> 00:27:29,492 was whining that video cassettes 576 00:27:29,517 --> 00:27:31,769 would destroy copyright law. 577 00:27:31,792 --> 00:27:34,802 The studios wouldn't license their stuff. 578 00:27:34,826 --> 00:27:38,078 They saw video as being a threat. 579 00:27:38,103 --> 00:27:41,078 So there was open field for anybody who wanted 580 00:27:41,103 --> 00:27:43,250 to start a company. 581 00:27:43,275 --> 00:27:46,275 Charlie Band took advantage of it the most. 582 00:27:47,586 --> 00:27:50,355 Charles Band was a pioneer in this time, 583 00:27:50,378 --> 00:27:52,906 creating multiple labels, putting these films 584 00:27:52,931 --> 00:27:54,103 in video stores. 585 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,078 This is a tough business, 586 00:27:57,103 --> 00:27:58,906 but every business is challenging. 587 00:27:58,931 --> 00:28:01,654 It was rental that made the thing explode 588 00:28:02,862 --> 00:28:04,286 Come to the warehouse, 589 00:28:04,309 --> 00:28:05,458 and rent the hit movies you want when you want them. 590 00:28:05,481 --> 00:28:07,631 Around 1982 is when the video stores 591 00:28:07,654 --> 00:28:10,664 started doing way, way better. 592 00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:15,319 By 1985 there was around 12,000 video stores 593 00:28:15,344 --> 00:28:16,906 in the United States. 594 00:28:16,931 --> 00:28:18,355 You can now rent a video overnight, 595 00:28:18,378 --> 00:28:21,872 and hire these great movies from only 99 cents. 596 00:28:21,895 --> 00:28:26,733 Close to the late 80s, there was around 40,000 places 597 00:28:26,758 --> 00:28:29,631 that were renting tapes, so this was a huge impact 598 00:28:29,654 --> 00:28:31,733 for the horror genre, because people 599 00:28:31,758 --> 00:28:33,286 were renting horror films. 600 00:28:33,309 --> 00:28:36,802 Tapes around that time weren't $5. 601 00:28:36,826 --> 00:28:38,388 They weren't $2. 602 00:28:38,413 --> 00:28:42,906 They were typically 49.95 up to $100. 603 00:28:42,931 --> 00:28:47,931 So if you had 40,000 stores buying at least one tape, 604 00:28:49,067 --> 00:28:51,044 you were lining your pockets full of money. 605 00:28:51,067 --> 00:28:53,136 And this was a million dollar industry. 606 00:28:54,275 --> 00:28:56,941 And a lot of video labels had either one 607 00:28:56,964 --> 00:28:59,733 to maybe 20 titles in their catalog, 608 00:28:59,758 --> 00:29:01,009 but that's all they needed, 609 00:29:01,034 --> 00:29:02,976 because it was millions of dollars 610 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,423 that they were making. 611 00:29:04,448 --> 00:29:06,527 And then they started producing their own stuff, 612 00:29:06,550 --> 00:29:08,492 giving filmmakers $50,000, 613 00:29:08,517 --> 00:29:10,286 because they knew that they were gonna make millions 614 00:29:10,309 --> 00:29:11,596 selling to video stores, 615 00:29:11,619 --> 00:29:13,826 so it just revolutionized everything. 616 00:29:16,723 --> 00:29:20,113 Troma became a staple of the home video market, 617 00:29:20,136 --> 00:29:23,182 because we had accumulated about 60 movies. 618 00:29:23,205 --> 00:29:24,837 We wanted to own our movies, 619 00:29:24,862 --> 00:29:26,423 we wanted to own all the rights, 620 00:29:26,448 --> 00:29:30,596 and we wanted to have a collection, have a library. 621 00:29:30,619 --> 00:29:34,689 The theory behind Troma was to own your negatives. 622 00:29:35,895 --> 00:29:38,837 Lloyd Kaufman, Charlie Band, and Roger Corman, 623 00:29:38,862 --> 00:29:41,388 they were businessmen, but they were filmmakers. 624 00:29:41,413 --> 00:29:44,319 Those core three are definitely a huge, huge reason 625 00:29:44,344 --> 00:29:49,344 why the direct to video horror was so impactful and huge. 626 00:29:50,448 --> 00:29:51,631 As the 80s started winding down, 627 00:29:51,654 --> 00:29:54,596 like every business, it starts monopolizing. 628 00:29:54,619 --> 00:29:58,631 By the 90s, you had Blockbuster reading scripts 629 00:29:58,654 --> 00:30:01,182 to give so much shelf space. 630 00:30:01,205 --> 00:30:03,044 Any time there's a new technology, 631 00:30:03,067 --> 00:30:05,631 the majors, the oligopoly, the cartel, 632 00:30:05,654 --> 00:30:08,803 throws a monkey wrench into it, tries to screw it up, 633 00:30:08,826 --> 00:30:10,906 and then they take it over, which is what happened 634 00:30:10,931 --> 00:30:14,388 with video cassette, Blockbuster put all the independents 635 00:30:14,413 --> 00:30:15,906 out of business. 636 00:30:15,931 --> 00:30:17,941 ♪ Wow what a difference 637 00:30:17,964 --> 00:30:19,527 ♪ Blockbuster video 638 00:30:19,550 --> 00:30:22,044 I've never seen 10,000 tapes in one store. 639 00:30:22,067 --> 00:30:24,423 We can really, really thank the mom and pop stores 640 00:30:24,448 --> 00:30:28,113 out there, because they carried the really interesting 641 00:30:28,136 --> 00:30:30,423 innovative films that were out there during the 80s, 642 00:30:30,448 --> 00:30:33,078 films that someone like Blockbuster wouldn't touch 643 00:30:33,103 --> 00:30:34,561 with a 10 foot pole. 644 00:30:34,586 --> 00:30:36,802 And Blockbuster sure didn't have that little room 645 00:30:36,826 --> 00:30:39,689 with the fancy movies back there. 646 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,388 Today you can go out and make a movie for no money. 647 00:30:43,413 --> 00:30:46,355 I mean, the world has changed dramatically. 648 00:30:46,378 --> 00:30:49,527 It's still in the story you tell, if it's compelling, 649 00:30:49,550 --> 00:30:50,906 I mean, whatever the medium is, 650 00:30:50,931 --> 00:30:52,906 you need to be able to tell a story, 651 00:30:52,931 --> 00:30:55,388 and put it together in a format that people, 652 00:30:55,413 --> 00:30:57,941 whether they're gonna rent or buy or download 653 00:30:57,964 --> 00:31:00,631 or view for free, find entertaining. 654 00:31:00,654 --> 00:31:02,586 That part has not changed at all. 655 00:31:18,895 --> 00:31:20,561 "Fear No Evil". 656 00:31:20,586 --> 00:31:23,286 It'll scare the devil out of you. 657 00:31:23,309 --> 00:31:25,596 "Fear No Evil" is thematically in the vein 658 00:31:25,619 --> 00:31:27,009 of a lot of these films in the 1980s 659 00:31:27,034 --> 00:31:29,319 where it's like a guy who gets picked on 660 00:31:29,344 --> 00:31:31,147 has been underestimated. 661 00:31:31,172 --> 00:31:32,492 Be careful who you pick on, 662 00:31:32,517 --> 00:31:34,550 because he might be the Antichrist. 663 00:31:39,136 --> 00:31:42,286 "Fear No Evil" is a hormonal overload. 664 00:31:42,309 --> 00:31:43,872 I mean, come on. 665 00:31:43,895 --> 00:31:45,250 High school's hard enough without the inconvenience 666 00:31:45,275 --> 00:31:47,344 of demonic possession, right? 667 00:31:49,931 --> 00:31:51,527 "Fear No Evil" is like if Damien from "The Omen" 668 00:31:51,550 --> 00:31:53,964 was in high school, and was pretty gay. 669 00:31:56,826 --> 00:31:59,286 "Fear No Evil" was really my coming of age story 670 00:31:59,309 --> 00:32:02,078 in a lot of ways, and so all that angst, 671 00:32:02,103 --> 00:32:05,103 all of that confusion is reflected in the film. 672 00:32:06,344 --> 00:32:07,769 There's this scene in "Fear No Evil", 673 00:32:07,792 --> 00:32:10,700 it's a locker room scene, which it's definitely the source 674 00:32:10,723 --> 00:32:12,561 of a lot of anxiety for a lot of people. 675 00:32:12,586 --> 00:32:15,976 This scene is like, ooh, very cringey. 676 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,941 Only the most uncomfortable high school 677 00:32:17,964 --> 00:32:19,931 shower scene since "Carrie". 678 00:32:22,550 --> 00:32:23,388 Plug it up! 679 00:32:23,413 --> 00:32:24,413 Plug it up! 680 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,286 Tony goes in to kiss Andrew, 681 00:32:28,309 --> 00:32:31,492 and then Andrew uses his special devil powers 682 00:32:31,517 --> 00:32:33,113 to make the kiss last longer. 683 00:32:33,136 --> 00:32:34,147 Like, that's his big revenge. 684 00:32:34,172 --> 00:32:36,000 It's like, make the bully gayer. 685 00:32:37,136 --> 00:32:39,906 It's Andrew who's compelling this, 686 00:32:39,931 --> 00:32:43,448 but Tony's latent homosexuality, 687 00:32:45,172 --> 00:32:46,664 I mean, he hates women, right? 688 00:32:46,689 --> 00:32:48,388 This guy, this thug, Tony. 689 00:32:48,413 --> 00:32:49,976 He's a bully, you know? 690 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,631 Lots of these bullies are, right? 691 00:32:51,654 --> 00:32:53,733 They can't face their own sexuality, 692 00:32:53,758 --> 00:32:56,113 and so they take it out on others in this manner. 693 00:32:56,136 --> 00:32:59,182 Look, if you don't keep your mouth shut about this, right? 694 00:32:59,205 --> 00:33:00,733 Guess where that was shot? 695 00:33:00,758 --> 00:33:02,664 At my old junior high school. 696 00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:04,664 First day of the shoot, what I do. 697 00:33:04,689 --> 00:33:07,596 We go in there, we shoot this, the shower scene. 698 00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:10,423 Get in there with all these naked guys in the shower, 699 00:33:10,448 --> 00:33:11,872 they're kissing. 700 00:33:11,895 --> 00:33:13,355 They didn't know anything about it, of course, 701 00:33:13,378 --> 00:33:14,792 until the film was released. 702 00:33:15,931 --> 00:33:17,792 Come on, come on! 703 00:33:19,034 --> 00:33:20,596 I mean, it has a nice gothic feel. 704 00:33:20,619 --> 00:33:25,034 I wanted it to have a Hammer Horror feel. 705 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,700 The iconography. 706 00:33:29,723 --> 00:33:32,388 I mean it's so frightening. 707 00:33:32,413 --> 00:33:35,895 All the iconography surrounding Catholicism. 708 00:33:39,792 --> 00:33:44,792 We raised, ultimately, 540,000 to make the picture. 709 00:33:45,964 --> 00:33:47,147 We had no money to finish the film, 710 00:33:47,172 --> 00:33:50,044 and I was concerned that if we got a bite 711 00:33:50,067 --> 00:33:53,250 from a distributor, that that would be it. 712 00:33:53,275 --> 00:33:55,527 I'd lose control of the picture. 713 00:33:55,550 --> 00:33:56,664 Damn you! 714 00:33:56,689 --> 00:33:58,286 Avco Embassy. 715 00:33:58,309 --> 00:34:01,976 They were the boutique low budget horror distribution house. 716 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,664 They had control, total control, over the final cut, 717 00:34:04,689 --> 00:34:06,631 but they made me make the edits 718 00:34:06,654 --> 00:34:09,112 with an editor that was assigned to the picture, 719 00:34:09,137 --> 00:34:11,355 and it was horrendous, because little by little 720 00:34:11,378 --> 00:34:14,655 I saw it restructured, reorganized, chopped up. 721 00:34:16,068 --> 00:34:19,251 The picture that at best works in fits and starts. 722 00:34:19,275 --> 00:34:21,802 But what really kills me is I've read some things 723 00:34:21,827 --> 00:34:24,664 about it being possibly homophobic. 724 00:34:24,688 --> 00:34:28,976 It's anything but that, in my estimation. 725 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,413 I mean, it's a coming of age story, right? 726 00:34:32,585 --> 00:34:34,596 The people that are particularly inclined 727 00:34:34,619 --> 00:34:36,733 to love "Fear No Evil" are gay. 728 00:34:36,757 --> 00:34:39,940 They consider it campy enough to have fun with, 729 00:34:39,965 --> 00:34:44,079 or it genuinely moves them as to their own 730 00:34:44,103 --> 00:34:46,172 coming out struggles. 731 00:34:58,724 --> 00:35:01,492 Unlike "Jaws", where you're not safe in the water, 732 00:35:01,516 --> 00:35:04,655 this one, you're not safe if you're on the beach. 733 00:35:10,516 --> 00:35:11,425 "Blood Beach". 734 00:35:11,449 --> 00:35:12,940 The tagline says it all. 735 00:35:12,965 --> 00:35:15,976 Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water, 736 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,492 you can't get to it. 737 00:35:17,516 --> 00:35:18,871 It's great to see John Saxon 738 00:35:18,896 --> 00:35:20,251 from "A Nightmare on Elm Street", 739 00:35:20,275 --> 00:35:22,768 and Burt Young, who's Paulie from "Rocky", 740 00:35:22,793 --> 00:35:24,217 trying to solve this mystery. 741 00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,043 He was foolish enough to lie down 742 00:35:26,068 --> 00:35:27,940 on this particular beach. 743 00:35:27,965 --> 00:35:30,275 Never would've happened in Chicago. 744 00:35:31,688 --> 00:35:32,940 Yeah, one more remark like that out of your mouth, 745 00:35:32,965 --> 00:35:34,181 Chicago's where you're gonna be. 746 00:35:34,206 --> 00:35:36,630 It's a charming movie, and it has a real moody, 747 00:35:36,655 --> 00:35:39,423 beachy feel, from the opening credits 748 00:35:39,447 --> 00:35:43,757 with this lingering monster POV vision under the pier. 749 00:35:45,206 --> 00:35:46,976 A $2 million union movie. 750 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,079 Jeffrey Bloom wrote and directed it. 751 00:35:49,103 --> 00:35:50,724 The coolest guy of all time. 752 00:35:52,619 --> 00:35:54,976 The way our monster that traveled through the sand, 753 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,043 we did this movie 10 years before "Tremors". 754 00:35:58,068 --> 00:35:59,802 Please help! 755 00:35:59,827 --> 00:36:00,965 Oh god! 756 00:36:04,585 --> 00:36:05,389 Oh god! 757 00:36:05,414 --> 00:36:06,630 What is happening? 758 00:36:06,655 --> 00:36:07,597 Help! 759 00:36:07,621 --> 00:36:08,838 That's me, and the effects guy 760 00:36:08,862 --> 00:36:11,596 yanking those people under the sand. 761 00:36:11,619 --> 00:36:14,217 We got a tractor out there on the beach 762 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,492 by the Santa Monica Pier, 763 00:36:16,516 --> 00:36:19,251 and we dug a big pit, and we built a big 764 00:36:19,275 --> 00:36:21,664 rubber membrane with a slit in it, 765 00:36:21,688 --> 00:36:24,838 and he and I, down in the pit, 766 00:36:24,862 --> 00:36:28,355 and when they are acting, and flailing around, 767 00:36:28,378 --> 00:36:30,423 they are kicking like crazy. 768 00:36:30,447 --> 00:36:32,596 And we are grabbing onto them like crazy, 769 00:36:32,619 --> 00:36:35,940 yanking them under. 770 00:36:35,965 --> 00:36:37,378 Ah, it was so much fun. 771 00:36:45,206 --> 00:36:47,251 The monster didn't turn out that great. 772 00:36:47,275 --> 00:36:50,079 The effects guy, bless his heart, did his best. 773 00:36:50,103 --> 00:36:52,458 I know the director was not happy with it. 774 00:36:52,481 --> 00:36:55,527 But, you know, like not showing the shark in "Jaws", 775 00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:57,724 it worked to an advantage. 776 00:37:00,344 --> 00:37:03,838 We built all these sets onstage at Culver City Studios, 777 00:37:03,862 --> 00:37:07,010 where this monster lived, and it was all supposed to look 778 00:37:07,034 --> 00:37:08,527 like Santa Monica Pier, and whatnot, 779 00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:10,043 but I brought seaweed in my trunk 780 00:37:10,068 --> 00:37:12,112 and threw the seaweed behind the stage. 781 00:37:12,137 --> 00:37:13,931 Begins to take on the shape, 782 00:37:15,516 --> 00:37:16,976 where it slept. 783 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,217 I think Smell-O-Vision is a very important part of sets. 784 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,355 You don't want it to smell like latex paint. 785 00:37:21,378 --> 00:37:23,664 We want it to smell like whatever it's supposed 786 00:37:23,688 --> 00:37:24,494 to smell like. 787 00:37:24,518 --> 00:37:25,793 It really helped. 788 00:37:27,034 --> 00:37:29,527 I ended up with the monster on my ranch, 789 00:37:29,550 --> 00:37:32,320 where my nieces and nephews played in it for years 790 00:37:32,344 --> 00:37:34,043 until it slowly withered away. 791 00:37:34,068 --> 00:37:36,527 I saved its head in my monster collection. 792 00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:39,768 But that's the sorry end of the "Blood Beach" monster. 793 00:37:39,793 --> 00:37:41,079 It's also one of those lost movies. 794 00:37:41,103 --> 00:37:44,043 It came out on VHS, and then that's it. 795 00:37:44,068 --> 00:37:47,010 It's legendary for being caught in limbo, 796 00:37:47,034 --> 00:37:50,251 rights-wise, and residual payment-wise. 797 00:37:50,275 --> 00:37:52,010 Jeffrey Bloom, the director, told me, 798 00:37:52,034 --> 00:37:54,320 I don't think he's ever made any money off the picture, 799 00:37:54,344 --> 00:37:56,355 and he wrote and directed it. 800 00:37:56,378 --> 00:37:58,976 It's really a mishmash of problems. 801 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,389 I'd love to see that reissued, 802 00:38:00,413 --> 00:38:03,148 somehow, if somebody could untangle the issues 803 00:38:03,172 --> 00:38:05,240 surrounding poor old "Blood Beach". 804 00:38:15,378 --> 00:38:16,182 Oh, "The Hand". 805 00:38:16,206 --> 00:38:17,378 Oh my god. 806 00:38:19,793 --> 00:38:23,976 Michael Caine in "The Hand". 807 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,458 It could have been so not good, 808 00:38:25,481 --> 00:38:28,596 because it's about an artist whose hand gets cut off, 809 00:38:28,619 --> 00:38:31,423 and the hand goes around committing crimes 810 00:38:31,447 --> 00:38:35,768 that he's trying not to commit. 811 00:38:35,793 --> 00:38:37,688 The hand goes and does it. 812 00:38:43,896 --> 00:38:46,148 Oliver Stone, he had gotten a lot of notice 813 00:38:46,172 --> 00:38:48,320 with "Midnight Express". 814 00:38:48,344 --> 00:38:53,344 And he thought "The Hand" was gonna be a major movie. 815 00:38:56,206 --> 00:38:59,389 Made and released by a major studio, 816 00:38:59,413 --> 00:39:02,112 but it had this really hopped up 817 00:39:02,137 --> 00:39:06,148 kind of exploitation tone to it 818 00:39:06,172 --> 00:39:08,838 that was very Corman. 819 00:39:08,862 --> 00:39:12,965 It just was really intense and outrageous. 820 00:39:15,344 --> 00:39:18,355 I rented it as a kid because I knew it dealt 821 00:39:18,378 --> 00:39:23,378 with comic books, and like a phantom appendage. 822 00:39:24,793 --> 00:39:27,492 So there's this guy on the verge of a nervous breakdown, 823 00:39:27,516 --> 00:39:30,940 I guess, and he is a comic book artist, 824 00:39:30,965 --> 00:39:34,079 like a famous, established comic book artist. 825 00:39:34,103 --> 00:39:36,217 His marriage is on the rocks. 826 00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:37,838 There's this scene, 827 00:39:37,862 --> 00:39:39,976 as a kid, it was really horrific. 828 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,871 It's Michael Caine, you know, one of our greatest actors, 829 00:39:42,896 --> 00:39:44,793 squirting blood all over the place. 830 00:39:48,655 --> 00:39:51,181 Anybody who messes with Michael Caine 831 00:39:51,206 --> 00:39:52,240 gets the hand. 832 00:39:55,034 --> 00:39:57,010 Killing anybody that's standing in the way 833 00:39:57,034 --> 00:39:58,034 of his mission. 834 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,688 Or is it? 835 00:40:05,965 --> 00:40:08,561 He doesn't know if he's insane, 836 00:40:08,585 --> 00:40:11,827 or there really is a disembodied hand chasing him. 837 00:40:13,034 --> 00:40:14,871 Michael Caine's a terrific actor, 838 00:40:14,896 --> 00:40:18,043 but he went through a period where he never saw 839 00:40:18,068 --> 00:40:19,862 a paycheck he didn't like. 840 00:40:21,275 --> 00:40:22,976 They call it the Michael Caine School of Acting, 841 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,275 you know, when you get a role, take it. 842 00:40:28,378 --> 00:40:31,802 Even if the material isn't good, he delivered. 843 00:40:31,827 --> 00:40:33,516 I think that at least you- 844 00:40:36,344 --> 00:40:37,344 I think. 845 00:40:38,827 --> 00:40:40,043 You should get out of here. 846 00:40:40,068 --> 00:40:43,320 And it always elevated every movie he was in. 847 00:40:43,344 --> 00:40:46,458 It's from a book called "The Lizard's Tail". 848 00:40:46,481 --> 00:40:49,010 We struggled for many, many months 849 00:40:49,034 --> 00:40:53,217 playing with that idea of what is the sound of the hand? 850 00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:54,733 Does it breathe? 851 00:40:54,757 --> 00:40:57,630 Is it just fingernail sounds when it's crawling? 852 00:40:57,655 --> 00:40:59,423 Because whenever the hand approached, 853 00:40:59,447 --> 00:41:01,940 we wanted to get into that sound design moment 854 00:41:01,965 --> 00:41:04,320 of the universe, the sound universe changes. 855 00:41:04,344 --> 00:41:07,217 And we brought in a team of trained actors 856 00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,940 who would do group vocalizations, 857 00:41:09,965 --> 00:41:14,181 but we had them do what we called Fellini-esque 858 00:41:14,206 --> 00:41:17,976 vocalizations, so we did weird breathing patterns, 859 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,550 and freeform screaming. 860 00:41:26,931 --> 00:41:29,103 It's really, really cool stuff. 861 00:41:33,481 --> 00:41:35,561 For a disembodied hand movie, it's quite well-written. 862 00:41:35,585 --> 00:41:38,423 As I used to say in marketing the movie, 863 00:41:38,447 --> 00:41:41,251 it's one of the best disembodied hand movies ever. 864 00:41:41,275 --> 00:41:43,768 What happened to the hand? 865 00:41:43,793 --> 00:41:45,585 Oh, mommy went to look for it. 866 00:41:47,413 --> 00:41:48,413 But it ran away. 867 00:41:55,724 --> 00:41:57,355 "Bloody Birthday". 868 00:41:57,378 --> 00:41:59,871 A terrifying journey into the bizarre. 869 00:41:59,896 --> 00:42:02,079 Will you get out alive? 870 00:42:02,103 --> 00:42:05,010 Three kids are born at the same time in a hospital 871 00:42:05,034 --> 00:42:06,827 during an eclipse. 872 00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:10,148 It's a boy, Mrs. Taylor! 873 00:42:10,172 --> 00:42:12,940 And for some reason, this has astrologically 874 00:42:12,965 --> 00:42:14,458 made them evil. 875 00:42:14,481 --> 00:42:17,965 When they get to be 10, they sort of go on killing spree. 876 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:28,768 It plays on the fear of how scary kids can be, 877 00:42:28,793 --> 00:42:31,423 especially if they don't have the influence 878 00:42:31,447 --> 00:42:33,802 of discipline, and adults. 879 00:42:33,827 --> 00:42:36,561 Like that scene with the cake. 880 00:42:36,585 --> 00:42:38,010 That's terrifying. 881 00:42:38,034 --> 00:42:40,768 He's trying to make her think 882 00:42:40,793 --> 00:42:42,940 that he's poisoning the cake. 883 00:42:42,965 --> 00:42:45,137 The poison was just sitting on the counter. 884 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,976 I was putting it away. 885 00:42:47,001 --> 00:42:48,251 You were not, you little liar! 886 00:42:48,275 --> 00:42:51,251 That scene is so messed up, 887 00:42:51,275 --> 00:42:54,286 because he knows what he's doing as a child, 888 00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:58,217 and taking advantage of his seemingly innocence 889 00:42:58,240 --> 00:42:59,965 for his own benefit. 890 00:43:04,034 --> 00:43:07,148 Debbie, she's a horrible little child. 891 00:43:07,172 --> 00:43:08,389 I just love her as a villain. 892 00:43:08,413 --> 00:43:10,043 Can you and Timmy come over to babysit? 893 00:43:10,068 --> 00:43:11,286 Sure. 894 00:43:11,309 --> 00:43:12,286 What time do you want me to come over? 895 00:43:12,311 --> 00:43:13,768 11 o'clock. 896 00:43:13,793 --> 00:43:15,010 Okay. 897 00:43:15,034 --> 00:43:17,355 My little sister is selling tickets 898 00:43:17,378 --> 00:43:21,699 to watch me, you know, get naked. 899 00:43:21,724 --> 00:43:24,733 I was very young, it was one of my first years 900 00:43:24,757 --> 00:43:26,148 as an actress. 901 00:43:26,172 --> 00:43:28,423 So many actresses, especially at that time in the 80s, 902 00:43:28,447 --> 00:43:30,492 that they had some sort of film 903 00:43:30,516 --> 00:43:33,871 where they had to be naked or topless or something, right? 904 00:43:33,896 --> 00:43:35,871 It wasn't that uncommon. 905 00:43:35,896 --> 00:43:37,940 So I thought, okay. 906 00:43:37,965 --> 00:43:42,389 I wasn't gonna, like, be topless in the audition. 907 00:43:42,413 --> 00:43:45,389 So they said, well, we need to see your boobs. 908 00:43:45,413 --> 00:43:46,733 And I'm like, why? 909 00:43:46,757 --> 00:43:47,666 And they go, because what if you have 910 00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:48,699 a weird boob or something? 911 00:43:48,724 --> 00:43:50,148 So I took my top off in the room, 912 00:43:50,172 --> 00:43:51,458 and I took a Polaroid. 913 00:43:51,481 --> 00:43:53,527 And then they let the director look at it, 914 00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:54,931 and they gave it back to me. 915 00:43:56,619 --> 00:43:58,630 I don't know how other girls are cast 916 00:43:58,655 --> 00:44:01,206 for topless things, but that's what happened to me. 917 00:44:02,688 --> 00:44:05,976 And there's a little hole between the closet and her room, 918 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,802 and I look in there, and then they hit me in the eye 919 00:44:08,827 --> 00:44:11,172 with an arrow, and that's how I die. 920 00:44:16,965 --> 00:44:18,907 They're dragging my dead body around 921 00:44:18,931 --> 00:44:20,251 for a big portion of it. 922 00:44:20,275 --> 00:44:22,688 And that's depressing. 923 00:44:25,172 --> 00:44:26,492 And at first I wouldn't talk about it, 924 00:44:26,516 --> 00:44:29,320 but then I thought, really, who cares? 925 00:44:29,344 --> 00:44:30,838 Right? 926 00:44:30,862 --> 00:44:33,034 Even though honestly my son doesn't know about it, 927 00:44:33,896 --> 00:44:34,838 and he's never seen it. 928 00:44:34,862 --> 00:44:36,492 So. 929 00:44:36,516 --> 00:44:37,699 Debbie? 930 00:44:37,724 --> 00:44:38,724 What's wrong, Debbie? 931 00:44:40,344 --> 00:44:42,940 "Bloody Birthday" wasn't well-received at all 932 00:44:42,965 --> 00:44:45,630 when it came out, because of the fact that 933 00:44:45,655 --> 00:44:47,148 these were evil kids. 934 00:44:47,172 --> 00:44:48,630 People would get so offended 935 00:44:48,655 --> 00:44:51,976 by all the sexual and violent situations placed in it, 936 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,447 but the kids were actually having a great time, 937 00:44:55,378 --> 00:44:56,286 and they thought it was playtime, 938 00:44:56,311 --> 00:44:59,181 and that was comforting to know, 939 00:44:59,206 --> 00:45:01,148 because we wouldn't want them to be traumatized 940 00:45:01,172 --> 00:45:02,492 at all by the experience. 941 00:45:02,516 --> 00:45:05,931 Does anybody know what the word murder means? 942 00:45:13,827 --> 00:45:16,275 Pray you're not invited. 943 00:45:17,550 --> 00:45:20,768 If you get a great image on the cover, 944 00:45:20,793 --> 00:45:21,976 that's half the battle. 945 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,423 And when you see that guy with his mouth open, 946 00:45:23,447 --> 00:45:25,630 and the skewer, the shish kabob is going in, 947 00:45:25,655 --> 00:45:27,112 like, I'm in. 948 00:45:27,137 --> 00:45:29,181 And Melissa Sue Anderson, who is from 949 00:45:29,206 --> 00:45:30,619 Little House on the Prairie. 950 00:45:31,793 --> 00:45:35,664 This was gonna be her big moment as an adult, 951 00:45:35,688 --> 00:45:39,481 playing a high school girl in a slasher flick. 952 00:45:40,413 --> 00:45:42,010 This was more like the tail end 953 00:45:42,034 --> 00:45:44,355 of the holiday murder movies, 954 00:45:44,378 --> 00:45:46,320 so people were still taking it seriously. 955 00:45:46,344 --> 00:45:48,655 They were like okay, we're gonna ride this wave. 956 00:45:50,068 --> 00:45:51,733 This could be a massive hit, 957 00:45:51,757 --> 00:45:54,492 so let's really, really go for it, you know? 958 00:45:54,516 --> 00:45:57,630 It's about this group of kids at this elite school. 959 00:45:57,655 --> 00:45:59,596 The killer is one of them, because every time 960 00:45:59,619 --> 00:46:01,976 someone gets killed, it's like, oh it's you. 961 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,389 Virginia, who was kinda new to this group, 962 00:46:04,413 --> 00:46:07,079 we slowly learn that she has these holes 963 00:46:07,103 --> 00:46:08,010 in her memory. 964 00:46:08,034 --> 00:46:09,389 And today I remembered. 965 00:46:09,413 --> 00:46:10,630 Yes. 966 00:46:10,655 --> 00:46:13,251 And tomorrow, you will remember more. 967 00:46:13,275 --> 00:46:14,079 Even the- 968 00:46:14,103 --> 00:46:15,286 Even the accident. 969 00:46:15,309 --> 00:46:16,940 Her friends are like, they're disappearing 970 00:46:16,965 --> 00:46:18,585 more than dying. 971 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,010 So she has all this trauma around her birthday, 972 00:46:22,034 --> 00:46:24,000 which should be a moment of celebration. 973 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:26,802 Hi there. 974 00:46:26,827 --> 00:46:27,632 Rudy! 975 00:46:27,655 --> 00:46:28,838 Where have you been? 976 00:46:28,862 --> 00:46:30,871 Who's doing the killing? 977 00:46:30,896 --> 00:46:32,043 Is it her? 978 00:46:32,068 --> 00:46:33,413 Because she's messed up? 979 00:46:35,275 --> 00:46:36,148 Or is it not? 980 00:46:36,172 --> 00:46:37,664 Lighten up! 981 00:46:37,688 --> 00:46:39,320 You touch me again, I'm gonna fucking kill you! 982 00:46:39,344 --> 00:46:41,079 And that's a very real, tangible, 983 00:46:41,103 --> 00:46:46,103 real life fear, of having a part of your whole memory gone. 984 00:46:47,481 --> 00:46:48,871 What happened before the accident? 985 00:46:48,896 --> 00:46:51,458 You've got to try to remember. 986 00:46:51,481 --> 00:46:53,355 The kills are great. 987 00:46:53,378 --> 00:46:54,596 The gore is great. 988 00:46:54,619 --> 00:46:58,309 There's some very good tense moments in it. 989 00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:02,871 One of the classic kills from this movie. 990 00:47:02,896 --> 00:47:04,010 We have Greg. 991 00:47:04,034 --> 00:47:06,103 He's doing his weights, he's very strong. 992 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,940 Okay, that's it. 993 00:47:08,965 --> 00:47:13,275 Holds the weight above his penis, and drops it. 994 00:47:16,619 --> 00:47:17,527 Greg is dead. 995 00:47:17,552 --> 00:47:18,976 From a weight to the peen. 996 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,688 Yup. 997 00:47:22,068 --> 00:47:23,733 I panicked! 998 00:47:23,757 --> 00:47:26,112 I came here, god I thought you'd help me! 999 00:47:26,137 --> 00:47:27,699 So the ending of "Happy Birthday" to me 1000 00:47:27,724 --> 00:47:29,733 is what stuck with me 1001 00:47:29,757 --> 00:47:33,802 all my life, because it's crazy. 1002 00:47:33,827 --> 00:47:38,423 ♪ Happy birthday to me 1003 00:47:38,447 --> 00:47:42,103 ♪ Happy birthday to me 1004 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,079 Pray for day. 1005 00:47:50,103 --> 00:47:51,527 "Hell Night". 1006 00:47:51,550 --> 00:47:53,355 One of my favorite things about "Hell Night'" 1007 00:47:53,378 --> 00:47:55,768 is just being able to see Linda Blair 1008 00:47:55,793 --> 00:47:56,802 do something different. 1009 00:47:56,827 --> 00:47:58,344 Who's she? 1010 00:47:59,757 --> 00:48:01,423 Oh, that's one of the new pledges. 1011 00:48:01,447 --> 00:48:02,389 They call her Marty. 1012 00:48:02,414 --> 00:48:03,664 And it feels almost like, 1013 00:48:03,688 --> 00:48:05,976 what if Regan survives after "The Exorcist", 1014 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,827 and she decides to go to college? 1015 00:48:09,206 --> 00:48:10,423 She's gonna go and be in a sorority, 1016 00:48:10,447 --> 00:48:11,596 and she's gonna have this normal life, 1017 00:48:11,619 --> 00:48:12,871 and she ends up stuck in this mansion 1018 00:48:12,896 --> 00:48:15,561 where it's like a weird, mutant offspring. 1019 00:48:15,585 --> 00:48:18,527 It feels really unusual compared to a lot 1020 00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:21,664 of the other sort of teen and 20-something centric 1021 00:48:21,688 --> 00:48:25,458 horror movies that were coming out in the early 1980s. 1022 00:48:25,481 --> 00:48:27,802 In 1850, Virgil Garth built this mansion 1023 00:48:27,827 --> 00:48:29,733 with the gold that was pouring out of his mines. 1024 00:48:29,757 --> 00:48:31,596 So they introduce this whole backstory 1025 00:48:31,619 --> 00:48:34,079 about Garth Manor, and this guy who kills his family, 1026 00:48:34,103 --> 00:48:36,940 like he kills his wife, and he has mutated kids. 1027 00:48:36,965 --> 00:48:39,148 And then Raymond Garth got a rope 1028 00:48:39,172 --> 00:48:40,655 and hung himself to death. 1029 00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:43,871 And then he hangs himself, 1030 00:48:43,896 --> 00:48:46,079 but two of the kids are missing. 1031 00:48:46,103 --> 00:48:48,871 It was like okay, we're gonna throw a couple sorority girls 1032 00:48:48,896 --> 00:48:51,251 and a couple fraternity brothers in a house overnight 1033 00:48:51,275 --> 00:48:52,596 and see what happens. 1034 00:48:52,619 --> 00:48:54,000 We'll see you four a dawn. 1035 00:48:56,965 --> 00:48:58,043 Just about six hours. 1036 00:48:58,068 --> 00:48:59,871 You have Peter Barton and Linda Blair, 1037 00:48:59,896 --> 00:49:01,320 and they're sort of hanging out, 1038 00:49:01,344 --> 00:49:03,619 and then you've got promiscuous gal, 1039 00:49:04,481 --> 00:49:05,733 and then the stoner surfer dude, 1040 00:49:05,757 --> 00:49:07,458 and they're gonna get together and have fun. 1041 00:49:07,481 --> 00:49:08,838 Hey! 1042 00:49:08,862 --> 00:49:11,389 And then it evolves into this whole 1043 00:49:11,413 --> 00:49:15,103 elaborate gothic nightmare for them. 1044 00:49:19,619 --> 00:49:23,079 Peter Barton, he actually did get hurt during the film, 1045 00:49:23,103 --> 00:49:24,802 so there's a lot of the movie where you see him 1046 00:49:24,827 --> 00:49:26,355 limping around, but that was very real. 1047 00:49:26,378 --> 00:49:29,585 That wasn't because of what happened to his character. 1048 00:49:31,206 --> 00:49:32,148 No! 1049 00:49:32,172 --> 00:49:33,251 They couldn't stop filming, 1050 00:49:33,275 --> 00:49:34,733 so they just had to push forward, 1051 00:49:34,757 --> 00:49:37,838 and he basically had to work through an ankle injury 1052 00:49:37,862 --> 00:49:39,103 for like half the movie. 1053 00:49:40,344 --> 00:49:41,251 It's got some issues, but I think ultimately, 1054 00:49:41,275 --> 00:49:42,630 "Hell Night" really stands out 1055 00:49:42,655 --> 00:49:45,320 in comparison to a lot of other horror movies 1056 00:49:45,344 --> 00:49:48,000 that were coming out around the same time. 1057 00:49:59,481 --> 00:50:01,664 A gem I discovered on cable back in the 80s, 1058 00:50:01,688 --> 00:50:03,527 and that I push on people as often as I can 1059 00:50:03,550 --> 00:50:05,010 is "The Unseen". 1060 00:50:05,034 --> 00:50:06,630 The terror is unleashed. 1061 00:50:06,655 --> 00:50:07,871 No! 1062 00:50:07,896 --> 00:50:09,976 The horror is unequal. 1063 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,768 "The Unseen". 1064 00:50:11,793 --> 00:50:14,871 "The Unseen" is about an all-woman news crew 1065 00:50:14,896 --> 00:50:17,561 who are covering a festival in Solvang California. 1066 00:50:17,585 --> 00:50:20,907 They screwed up, someone didn't make a hotel reservation. 1067 00:50:20,931 --> 00:50:22,043 They have nowhere to stay. 1068 00:50:22,068 --> 00:50:24,112 They hit up this museum where they find 1069 00:50:24,137 --> 00:50:28,010 the great Sydney Lassick, who offers them a place to stay. 1070 00:50:28,034 --> 00:50:29,492 It's, it's not the Ritz, 1071 00:50:29,516 --> 00:50:32,079 but it'll run a close second. 1072 00:50:32,103 --> 00:50:32,942 Sure. 1073 00:50:32,965 --> 00:50:34,423 That's great. 1074 00:50:34,447 --> 00:50:35,389 The leader of this news crew is Barbara Bach. 1075 00:50:35,414 --> 00:50:36,940 Of course, Mrs. Ringo Starr, 1076 00:50:36,965 --> 00:50:38,940 the Bond girl from "The Spy Who Loved Me". 1077 00:50:38,965 --> 00:50:40,492 It's remarkable. 1078 00:50:40,516 --> 00:50:41,724 I'm impressed. 1079 00:50:42,550 --> 00:50:43,356 Scat. 1080 00:50:43,380 --> 00:50:44,940 Get off there, Ralph. 1081 00:50:44,965 --> 00:50:46,320 Sydney Lassick is one of the great character actors 1082 00:50:46,344 --> 00:50:47,976 of the second half of the 20th century. 1083 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,112 He was in "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest". 1084 00:50:50,137 --> 00:50:53,251 He was in "Alligator" as the pet store owner. 1085 00:50:53,275 --> 00:50:54,492 He is off the chain. 1086 00:50:54,516 --> 00:50:55,527 He is just going for it in this film. 1087 00:50:55,550 --> 00:50:57,481 Boo! 1088 00:51:00,275 --> 00:51:03,148 It's a delight to watch him just chew the scenery. 1089 00:51:03,172 --> 00:51:05,724 Don't concern yourself with that, Virginia. 1090 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,664 Just get the room ready. 1091 00:51:08,688 --> 00:51:10,010 The secret sauce of "The Unseen" 1092 00:51:10,034 --> 00:51:11,768 is that it's very, very talented people 1093 00:51:11,793 --> 00:51:13,585 doing something very, very unsavory. 1094 00:51:15,413 --> 00:51:18,802 Sydney Lassick's wife in the film, Leila Goldoni, 1095 00:51:18,827 --> 00:51:21,561 and he have a couple of very intense scenes 1096 00:51:21,585 --> 00:51:24,757 about a secret that they have in their basement. 1097 00:51:26,172 --> 00:51:27,527 They could find out. 1098 00:51:27,550 --> 00:51:28,896 Don't worry, my dear. 1099 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,724 No one will ever find out. 1100 00:51:33,103 --> 00:51:35,630 Junior in the film is this developmentally disabled 1101 00:51:35,655 --> 00:51:38,768 grown man wearing a diaper living in the basement. 1102 00:51:38,793 --> 00:51:40,585 I see you've met Junior. 1103 00:51:41,931 --> 00:51:44,871 Played by Flounder from "Animal House", 1104 00:51:44,896 --> 00:51:45,735 the late great Stephen Furst. 1105 00:51:45,759 --> 00:51:46,976 And you come to find out 1106 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,630 he's accidentally killing these women 1107 00:51:48,655 --> 00:51:50,309 because he doesn't know his own strength. 1108 00:51:54,550 --> 00:51:55,356 "The Unseen" is, in a lot of ways, 1109 00:51:55,380 --> 00:51:56,802 not a defensible film. 1110 00:51:56,827 --> 00:51:58,664 Ingestion is not endorsement. 1111 00:51:58,688 --> 00:52:00,010 I enjoyed it despite how wrong it is. 1112 00:52:00,034 --> 00:52:01,619 Boo! 1113 00:52:13,688 --> 00:52:15,976 "The Prowler" is a stalk slasher plot 1114 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,251 with a group of kids getting ready for a graduation party 1115 00:52:19,275 --> 00:52:21,112 and they're stalked and killed 1116 00:52:21,137 --> 00:52:23,871 by a mysterious killer in a GI outfit, 1117 00:52:23,896 --> 00:52:25,206 in Cape May, New Jersey. 1118 00:52:29,585 --> 00:52:31,423 There's a little historical thrill 1119 00:52:31,447 --> 00:52:33,217 to seeing Farley Granger from "Rope" 1120 00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:34,664 and "Strangers on a Train" 1121 00:52:34,688 --> 00:52:37,423 in an 80s slasher, as like the sheriff 1122 00:52:37,447 --> 00:52:38,871 with a mysterious past. 1123 00:52:38,896 --> 00:52:40,492 Just some deodorant. 1124 00:52:40,516 --> 00:52:43,664 No sweat. 1125 00:52:43,688 --> 00:52:44,907 Get it? 1126 00:52:44,931 --> 00:52:47,112 That keeps you on the edge of your seat. 1127 00:52:47,137 --> 00:52:49,699 You're just like, oh god, he's right there. 1128 00:52:49,724 --> 00:52:51,619 Oh god, ugh, you know? 1129 00:52:55,137 --> 00:52:56,596 It's Savini at his best, man. 1130 00:52:56,619 --> 00:52:59,516 The kills are fucking crazy, the gore is nuts. 1131 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,516 Tom Savini did some of his best work in the film. 1132 00:53:07,724 --> 00:53:09,043 That kill scene in the swimming pool 1133 00:53:09,068 --> 00:53:10,976 goes on forever. 1134 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,862 It's unbearable to watch. 1135 00:53:20,413 --> 00:53:22,976 Also one of the first exploding heads. 1136 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,079 I don't think it was the first exploding head, 1137 00:53:25,103 --> 00:53:26,965 but it was one of them. 1138 00:53:28,896 --> 00:53:33,389 It was the first pairing of Savini and Zito, 1139 00:53:33,413 --> 00:53:36,378 who then went on to do "Friday the 13th" part four. 1140 00:53:37,724 --> 00:53:39,768 Zito, man, say what you want, 1141 00:53:39,793 --> 00:53:41,309 but he had a great eye for it. 1142 00:53:47,688 --> 00:53:50,286 Putting aside George Romero's relationship with Savini, 1143 00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:52,664 no director films Tom Savini's kills 1144 00:53:52,688 --> 00:53:54,355 better than Jo Zito. 1145 00:53:54,378 --> 00:53:56,217 And I think that that is front and center 1146 00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:57,458 of "The Prowler". 1147 00:53:57,481 --> 00:53:58,733 Not only how Savini has designed them, 1148 00:53:58,757 --> 00:54:00,423 but that the director has listened to Savini 1149 00:54:00,447 --> 00:54:02,827 in terms of how to present those things. 1150 00:54:04,413 --> 00:54:06,217 There's something so perverse about riffing 1151 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:07,699 on the "Psycho" shower scene, 1152 00:54:07,724 --> 00:54:09,148 but with a pitchfork. 1153 00:54:09,172 --> 00:54:11,492 It's bright lights, nowhere to hide, 1154 00:54:11,516 --> 00:54:13,585 just in your face kills. 1155 00:54:17,068 --> 00:54:19,527 I was just following what they needed to happen 1156 00:54:19,550 --> 00:54:20,802 in the film. 1157 00:54:20,827 --> 00:54:24,699 I wasn't concerned with how they were shooting. 1158 00:54:24,724 --> 00:54:26,871 Joe Zito, we showed everything. 1159 00:54:26,896 --> 00:54:29,206 So there became an appeal for that. 1160 00:54:30,481 --> 00:54:34,447 I rode that appeal in the movies of the 80s. 1161 00:54:37,516 --> 00:54:39,251 For me, it's the guy with the hand over the mouth 1162 00:54:39,275 --> 00:54:41,172 and he's getting the bayonet in the head. 1163 00:54:43,344 --> 00:54:45,596 The way it's edited, and the way it's timed, 1164 00:54:45,619 --> 00:54:46,976 and it's just whites of the eyes. 1165 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,896 It's grizzly, and it really, really works. 1166 00:54:52,655 --> 00:54:54,217 It's a magic trick, which Savini's always said 1167 00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:55,458 his effects are magic tricks, 1168 00:54:55,481 --> 00:54:58,309 but that one is like, bang on. 1169 00:55:13,344 --> 00:55:16,148 Indonesia produced an interesting horror film in the 80s 1170 00:55:16,172 --> 00:55:18,423 called "Mystics in Bali". 1171 00:55:18,447 --> 00:55:21,561 I'm surprised that a pretty girl like you 1172 00:55:21,585 --> 00:55:23,733 would be interested in learning black magic. 1173 00:55:23,757 --> 00:55:25,251 Well, I'm just curious. 1174 00:55:25,275 --> 00:55:27,112 It seems like a bit of a fever dream, 1175 00:55:27,137 --> 00:55:28,355 what happens in this film. 1176 00:55:28,378 --> 00:55:31,079 But essentially, it's about a woman 1177 00:55:31,103 --> 00:55:34,423 who wants to learn more about the mystical stuff 1178 00:55:34,447 --> 00:55:35,976 that happens in Indonesian culture. 1179 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,275 You'll never forget this face. 1180 00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:44,286 And they're looking around for this mystic, 1181 00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:47,458 and what they see instead is a 50 foot tongue 1182 00:55:47,481 --> 00:55:49,871 coming out of the forest, which is incredible. 1183 00:55:49,896 --> 00:55:51,423 It's like a snake-like tongue. 1184 00:55:51,447 --> 00:55:54,630 And what happens is this tongue imprints words, 1185 00:55:54,655 --> 00:55:56,458 the name of the creatures, on her thigh, 1186 00:55:56,481 --> 00:55:57,907 and then things go from bad to worse 1187 00:55:57,931 --> 00:56:00,112 from that point, where this woman manifests 1188 00:56:00,137 --> 00:56:03,896 into this creature, but it's absolutely batshit. 1189 00:56:06,724 --> 00:56:09,043 I'm very interested in the mythology of this creature, 1190 00:56:09,068 --> 00:56:10,699 which is very much like a manananggal, 1191 00:56:10,724 --> 00:56:14,976 because you see that across all different Asian cultures. 1192 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,355 So she has the ability to split her body in half, 1193 00:56:18,378 --> 00:56:20,389 and the top half of her torso, 1194 00:56:20,413 --> 00:56:22,699 with all the entrails hanging out, can fly around, 1195 00:56:22,724 --> 00:56:25,286 and jump on people and kill them and eat them 1196 00:56:25,309 --> 00:56:28,148 while the bottom half kind of scuttles around the floor. 1197 00:56:28,172 --> 00:56:30,664 One of the most interesting scenes in this, 1198 00:56:30,688 --> 00:56:34,733 and kind of gross, is when this disembodied torso 1199 00:56:34,757 --> 00:56:37,664 goes between the legs of a pregnant woman, 1200 00:56:37,688 --> 00:56:39,181 and then basically eats her unborn baby. 1201 00:56:39,206 --> 00:56:41,103 It is nuts. 1202 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,699 Then it goes up a level of nuttiness, 1203 00:56:47,724 --> 00:56:49,768 they call up the good version of this mystic, 1204 00:56:49,793 --> 00:56:54,492 and they have this big battle using magic and animation, 1205 00:56:54,516 --> 00:56:56,516 and it's very interesting. 1206 00:57:00,827 --> 00:57:03,112 The ultimate theme of "Mystics in Bali" 1207 00:57:03,137 --> 00:57:04,802 really is curiosity kills the cat, 1208 00:57:04,827 --> 00:57:07,043 because this woman wants to know information 1209 00:57:07,068 --> 00:57:09,389 that she has no right knowing. 1210 00:57:09,413 --> 00:57:12,976 This supernatural stuff is way too powerful 1211 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,217 for a normal person, and I don't know why she thought 1212 00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:18,079 that she could control it, and harness it. 1213 00:57:18,103 --> 00:57:19,976 That particular transgression ends up 1214 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,079 in the consequences that befalls them 1215 00:57:22,103 --> 00:57:23,757 and everyone around them. 1216 00:57:36,275 --> 00:57:37,630 Now police have been skeptical 1217 00:57:37,655 --> 00:57:39,389 of investigating these acts, 1218 00:57:39,413 --> 00:57:41,389 just as we are in reporting them, 1219 00:57:41,413 --> 00:57:42,389 but there's no question that something 1220 00:57:42,414 --> 00:57:44,112 is going on out there. 1221 00:57:44,137 --> 00:57:45,940 When we think about the 1980s, 1222 00:57:45,965 --> 00:57:47,976 we think about the Reagan era, 1223 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,664 and a return to family values, 1224 00:57:49,688 --> 00:57:51,527 and there is something in the air 1225 00:57:51,550 --> 00:57:53,389 about the way that things should be. 1226 00:57:53,413 --> 00:57:56,010 There is sin and evil in the world, 1227 00:57:56,034 --> 00:57:58,561 and we're enjoined by scripture, and the lord Jesus 1228 00:57:58,585 --> 00:58:00,492 to oppose it with all our might. 1229 00:58:00,516 --> 00:58:03,802 Religious right somehow had moved into the mainstream. 1230 00:58:03,827 --> 00:58:06,355 Demand those parties and politicians 1231 00:58:06,378 --> 00:58:09,664 align themselves with the eternal values in this book, 1232 00:58:09,688 --> 00:58:11,838 and America will be forever 1233 00:58:11,862 --> 00:58:13,827 the greatest nation on this earth! 1234 00:58:15,034 --> 00:58:16,768 There was a lot of stuff in the ether 1235 00:58:16,793 --> 00:58:20,699 as far as satanic cults and the evangelicals. 1236 00:58:20,724 --> 00:58:23,561 Whether Satan exists is a matter of belief, 1237 00:58:23,585 --> 00:58:25,561 but we are certain that Satanism exists. 1238 00:58:25,585 --> 00:58:29,148 Their fears were sort of in the zeitgeist. 1239 00:58:29,172 --> 00:58:30,344 Could it be? 1240 00:58:31,309 --> 00:58:33,481 Satan! 1241 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,561 Growing up in the 80s under the veil of the satanic panic, 1242 00:58:37,585 --> 00:58:39,802 you know, we were all convinced by the far right 1243 00:58:39,827 --> 00:58:43,010 that there were these cultists out there, 1244 00:58:43,034 --> 00:58:46,976 meddling with the dark arts to try and abduct us kids 1245 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,871 and suck us into their covens to drink babies' blood 1246 00:58:50,896 --> 00:58:53,172 and perform witchcraft. 1247 00:58:54,757 --> 00:58:57,043 We were like, no, they're just cool scary movies. 1248 00:58:57,068 --> 00:58:58,561 I'll do that when I grow up 1249 00:58:58,585 --> 00:59:00,699 and I have a house of my own, thank you very much. 1250 00:59:00,724 --> 00:59:02,699 I dread going to these kinds of movies. 1251 00:59:02,724 --> 00:59:05,181 It really has become the most depressing part 1252 00:59:05,206 --> 00:59:06,561 of my job as a film critic. 1253 00:59:06,585 --> 00:59:08,733 And there we are, in total agreement. 1254 00:59:08,757 --> 00:59:10,079 In the UK and here in the US, 1255 00:59:10,103 --> 00:59:12,181 the census definitely clamped down 1256 00:59:12,206 --> 00:59:14,733 on what was allowed, what was acceptable content. 1257 00:59:14,757 --> 00:59:16,079 Half of American households 1258 00:59:16,103 --> 00:59:18,320 now have video cassette recorders, 1259 00:59:18,344 --> 00:59:20,389 and for many children, they're a ticket 1260 00:59:20,413 --> 00:59:22,802 to R-rated gore that the kids are too young 1261 00:59:22,827 --> 00:59:24,251 to see at the movies. 1262 00:59:24,275 --> 00:59:26,699 There were a lot of city people running around 1263 00:59:26,724 --> 00:59:29,527 saying oh, we can't have this stuff. 1264 00:59:29,550 --> 00:59:30,871 It's much too violent. 1265 00:59:30,896 --> 00:59:32,768 Well parents and psychologists are very concerned. 1266 00:59:32,793 --> 00:59:35,664 I have very vivid memories of the Video Nasty Panic. 1267 00:59:35,688 --> 00:59:39,043 I was probably nine or 10 years old 1268 00:59:39,068 --> 00:59:41,389 when it started to hit the news 1269 00:59:41,413 --> 00:59:45,112 that this filth was entering our homes, 1270 00:59:45,137 --> 00:59:49,181 and a lot of moral do-gooders and church people 1271 00:59:49,206 --> 00:59:52,802 and politicians started to talk about these movies, 1272 00:59:52,827 --> 00:59:56,699 saying that they were dangerous for society, 1273 00:59:56,724 --> 00:59:59,043 because anyone seeing them, it could cause them 1274 00:59:59,068 --> 01:00:02,630 to be scarred, and to go out and inflict harm on society. 1275 01:00:02,655 --> 01:00:05,527 Even today, if one is inclined to believe in Satanism, 1276 01:00:05,550 --> 01:00:08,251 it's a way to actually see the devil, 1277 01:00:08,275 --> 01:00:09,492 and perhaps be inspired. 1278 01:00:09,516 --> 01:00:11,251 I think people were really afraid 1279 01:00:11,275 --> 01:00:12,838 because they were told to be. 1280 01:00:12,862 --> 01:00:15,768 That was the beginning off the cult of fear 1281 01:00:15,793 --> 01:00:16,735 in this country. 1282 01:00:16,759 --> 01:00:18,344 I don't believe in censorship. 1283 01:00:19,550 --> 01:00:22,940 But I do believe that we parents and leaders 1284 01:00:22,965 --> 01:00:24,664 have a reason to be concerned. 1285 01:00:24,688 --> 01:00:28,976 It was such a simple use of religious moralism 1286 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,413 that they cracked down on us in the 80s, 1287 01:00:33,619 --> 01:00:38,112 and in doing so, really resurrected 1288 01:00:38,137 --> 01:00:42,010 a lot of these archaic ideas about religious fundamentalism 1289 01:00:42,034 --> 01:00:44,976 that are so easy to use when you're trying 1290 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,010 to manipulate large masses of people. 1291 01:00:48,034 --> 01:00:51,148 Sure, television should present life the way it is. 1292 01:00:51,172 --> 01:00:55,286 You can't tell somebody else they can't like it, 1293 01:00:55,309 --> 01:00:56,907 because you don't like it. 1294 01:00:56,931 --> 01:00:59,630 That kind of psychology is so unhealthy. 1295 01:00:59,655 --> 01:01:03,286 We needed the movies of 80s horror cinema 1296 01:01:03,309 --> 01:01:07,871 to release a little of that pent up steam. 1297 01:01:07,896 --> 01:01:09,527 And finally, music. 1298 01:01:09,550 --> 01:01:12,112 Which is found here in the neighborhood record store 1299 01:01:12,137 --> 01:01:14,768 under the category of heavy metal music. 1300 01:01:14,793 --> 01:01:17,976 There's a link between heavy metal and horror. 1301 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,112 They're like some strange cousins. 1302 01:01:19,137 --> 01:01:20,458 They always have been. 1303 01:01:20,481 --> 01:01:23,871 ♪ We're the dream warriors 1304 01:01:23,896 --> 01:01:25,664 In the "Nightmare on Elm Street" films, 1305 01:01:25,688 --> 01:01:28,240 the Dokken soundtrack is a classic. 1306 01:01:29,103 --> 01:01:31,112 The satanic message is clear, 1307 01:01:31,137 --> 01:01:33,492 both in the album covers, and in the lyrics, 1308 01:01:33,516 --> 01:01:36,664 which are reaching impressionable young minds. 1309 01:01:36,688 --> 01:01:38,148 It's question of content and values, 1310 01:01:38,172 --> 01:01:41,355 and parents need to tune in to their children's world. 1311 01:01:41,378 --> 01:01:44,251 Anytime there's any kind of a new wave of music, 1312 01:01:44,275 --> 01:01:47,112 there's always somebody who's gonna have a problem with it. 1313 01:01:47,137 --> 01:01:49,976 And the fact that you had Ozzy Osborne 1314 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,492 supposedly biting off the heads of bats onstage and stuff, 1315 01:01:53,516 --> 01:01:56,664 that certainly threw people for a loop. 1316 01:01:56,688 --> 01:01:58,181 This is entertainment? 1317 01:01:58,206 --> 01:02:00,699 This is what our kids are looking at for entertainment? 1318 01:02:00,724 --> 01:02:01,940 Yes. 1319 01:02:01,965 --> 01:02:03,492 So in the height of satanic panic 1320 01:02:03,516 --> 01:02:06,389 as the most metal and punk rock thing to do 1321 01:02:06,413 --> 01:02:08,699 from the film community, is they did films 1322 01:02:08,724 --> 01:02:11,355 about rock and roll and Satan. 1323 01:02:11,378 --> 01:02:14,630 The times that we were living in, 1324 01:02:14,655 --> 01:02:18,492 it was a perfect tapestry for us to utilize 1325 01:02:18,516 --> 01:02:23,181 what was going on in the world as far as politics 1326 01:02:23,206 --> 01:02:24,838 and us making movies. 1327 01:02:24,862 --> 01:02:26,976 ♪ Get down tonight 1328 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,768 I was in school in the 80s, 1329 01:02:28,793 --> 01:02:32,251 and there was a concern among the whole caucus 1330 01:02:32,275 --> 01:02:35,492 of evangelicals that Dungeons and Dragons 1331 01:02:35,516 --> 01:02:37,768 was a satanic sort of thing. 1332 01:02:37,793 --> 01:02:41,137 A lot of people hear the phrase my sweet Satan. 1333 01:02:44,275 --> 01:02:46,768 ♪ My sweet Satan 1334 01:02:46,793 --> 01:02:48,148 My sweet Satan. 1335 01:02:48,172 --> 01:02:49,389 The lyrics playing backwards and all that stuff. 1336 01:02:49,413 --> 01:02:51,907 It was kind of a hysteria, 1337 01:02:51,931 --> 01:02:55,976 which doesn't feel all that unfamiliar anymore. 1338 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,079 It tells you how to close the gate. 1339 01:02:58,103 --> 01:03:01,112 Parents just didn't know it was the record companies 1340 01:03:01,137 --> 01:03:05,286 that were telling them that if you spin records backwards, 1341 01:03:05,309 --> 01:03:06,827 you'll hear Satan. 1342 01:03:10,447 --> 01:03:15,251 Literally one of the best ideas for record companies 1343 01:03:15,275 --> 01:03:18,079 to come up with in the history of music 1344 01:03:18,103 --> 01:03:20,527 was getting stupid people to believe that. 1345 01:03:20,550 --> 01:03:23,103 But they did conjure up Sammi Curr. 1346 01:03:25,793 --> 01:03:28,217 All a part of the plan. 1347 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,458 All right. 1348 01:03:29,481 --> 01:03:31,907 In the 80s, we had a big controversy 1349 01:03:31,931 --> 01:03:35,181 with the lyrics, and parents being very concerned 1350 01:03:35,206 --> 01:03:36,976 about what their kids were listening to 1351 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,976 in heavy metal with the pentagrams. 1352 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,492 There were Senate hearings, and Congressional hearings, 1353 01:03:42,516 --> 01:03:44,527 that kind of thing, and a lot of the wives 1354 01:03:44,550 --> 01:03:46,768 of the politicians took up this cause 1355 01:03:46,793 --> 01:03:49,355 against heavy metal music. 1356 01:03:49,378 --> 01:03:51,423 ♪ Rock and roll 1357 01:03:51,447 --> 01:03:52,907 ♪ Rocking 1358 01:03:52,931 --> 01:03:55,458 "Trick or Treat", there's a scene where Sammi Curr 1359 01:03:55,481 --> 01:03:59,458 is testifying against what's supposed to be the PMRC. 1360 01:03:59,481 --> 01:04:01,148 If you were a parent, 1361 01:04:01,172 --> 01:04:04,079 would you want your kid growing up around rock music? 1362 01:04:04,103 --> 01:04:05,320 Rock musicians? 1363 01:04:05,344 --> 01:04:06,561 I mean, with that kind of values? 1364 01:04:06,585 --> 01:04:07,527 And he basically tells him to go get fucked. 1365 01:04:07,552 --> 01:04:09,389 You cannot legislate morality. 1366 01:04:09,413 --> 01:04:11,596 - The teenage daughter- - We will bring you down! 1367 01:04:11,619 --> 01:04:14,492 And that's the way I was with my heroes. 1368 01:04:14,516 --> 01:04:17,320 That's the way my fans are with me 1369 01:04:17,344 --> 01:04:18,976 when I'm telling the establishment 1370 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,757 to go fuck themselves, you know? 1371 01:04:21,931 --> 01:04:24,733 There will always be a need for a platform 1372 01:04:24,757 --> 01:04:27,931 to give people hope in a sea of hopelessness. 1373 01:04:28,862 --> 01:04:31,838 I carried an M16 and you, 1374 01:04:31,862 --> 01:04:36,043 you carry that, that, that guitar! 1375 01:04:36,068 --> 01:04:38,251 What they came up with was a warning system 1376 01:04:38,275 --> 01:04:39,527 on the albums. 1377 01:04:39,550 --> 01:04:41,561 They wanted to rate them, like rated R, 1378 01:04:41,585 --> 01:04:42,802 and things like that, but they ended up 1379 01:04:42,827 --> 01:04:44,976 with just sort of a warning label. 1380 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,492 But the album sold better when they had 1381 01:04:46,516 --> 01:04:47,757 the warning label on them. 1382 01:04:52,827 --> 01:04:54,148 ♪ We're not gonna take it 1383 01:04:54,172 --> 01:04:56,976 To me, horror and the discovery of horror, 1384 01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,907 you start finding these voices outside of the mainstream, 1385 01:05:00,931 --> 01:05:05,217 who are willing to push a lot of boundaries 1386 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,907 and question a lot of the establishment, 1387 01:05:08,931 --> 01:05:12,355 and scaring the crack out of all the PTA moms 1388 01:05:12,378 --> 01:05:15,561 and school superintendents and Cub Scout leaders 1389 01:05:15,585 --> 01:05:17,458 that were trying to make sure we all fit 1390 01:05:17,481 --> 01:05:19,871 right into the mold that they wanted us to. 1391 01:05:19,896 --> 01:05:20,896 God! 1392 01:05:22,103 --> 01:05:23,217 God is dead! 1393 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:24,320 - Hail Satan! - Satan lives! 1394 01:05:25,550 --> 01:05:27,838 It's an ever-perpetual cycle 1395 01:05:27,862 --> 01:05:31,802 that the entire human experience centers itself around, 1396 01:05:31,827 --> 01:05:33,664 that events are out of control. 1397 01:05:33,688 --> 01:05:37,181 There has to be something that can set it right. 1398 01:05:37,206 --> 01:05:40,596 And there are many people who will seize on anything. 1399 01:05:40,619 --> 01:05:42,389 They want a solution. 1400 01:05:42,413 --> 01:05:43,940 They want deliverance. 1401 01:05:43,965 --> 01:05:45,423 We fall for everything. 1402 01:05:45,447 --> 01:05:50,148 I recall that being the most ridiculous waste of time. 1403 01:05:50,172 --> 01:05:52,596 It's been heading in that direction for a long time. 1404 01:05:52,619 --> 01:05:55,492 Now we're totally divided as a country. 1405 01:05:55,516 --> 01:05:57,827 And it's crap like that that does it. 1406 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,355 "Butcher, Baker, Nightmare Maker". 1407 01:06:13,378 --> 01:06:14,630 Rated R. 1408 01:06:14,655 --> 01:06:16,907 Starts Friday at a theater near you. 1409 01:06:16,931 --> 01:06:19,148 "Butcher, Baker, Nightmare Maker". 1410 01:06:19,172 --> 01:06:21,181 I mean, that's an incredible title. 1411 01:06:21,206 --> 01:06:23,550 That movie should have done really well. 1412 01:06:25,378 --> 01:06:27,043 "Butcher, Baker, Nightmare Maker" 1413 01:06:27,068 --> 01:06:29,896 is another of the Video Nasties. 1414 01:06:35,585 --> 01:06:37,976 So this is the cover that I saw on the shelf 1415 01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,458 when I saw it in around 1983. 1416 01:06:40,481 --> 01:06:43,976 And it is Susan Tyrrell covered in blood. 1417 01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,802 The kind of thing that I would have rented. 1418 01:06:45,827 --> 01:06:47,940 I'm gonna get that scholarship if I can! 1419 01:06:47,965 --> 01:06:50,217 I'm going away to school, and no one's gonna stop me! 1420 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:51,699 Not even you! 1421 01:06:51,724 --> 01:06:53,976 "Butcher, Baker, Nightmare Maker" is about a kid 1422 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,940 who wants to go off to college, and an aunt 1423 01:06:55,965 --> 01:06:56,976 who doesn't want him to. 1424 01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,596 And the murder that she goes to 1425 01:06:59,619 --> 01:07:00,862 to keep him there. 1426 01:07:03,550 --> 01:07:05,286 Everybody's so obsessed with the sex life 1427 01:07:05,309 --> 01:07:06,940 of a 17-year-old. 1428 01:07:06,965 --> 01:07:08,217 I was thinking, um, 1429 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,320 can I invite Julia over for my birthday dinner? 1430 01:07:11,344 --> 01:07:12,940 Julia again? 1431 01:07:12,965 --> 01:07:14,389 Sounds serious. 1432 01:07:14,413 --> 01:07:17,079 That's probably the most real life part of this movie, 1433 01:07:17,103 --> 01:07:19,251 is everybody trying to figure out if this kid's gay. 1434 01:07:19,275 --> 01:07:21,458 Do you like girls, Ms. Roberts? 1435 01:07:21,481 --> 01:07:22,699 God, you're a pig. 1436 01:07:22,724 --> 01:07:23,940 "Butcher, Baker, Nightmare Maker" 1437 01:07:23,965 --> 01:07:27,148 is about people trying to out you. 1438 01:07:27,172 --> 01:07:28,181 So tell me. 1439 01:07:28,206 --> 01:07:29,320 Are you two making love? 1440 01:07:29,344 --> 01:07:31,596 I am not going to answer that. 1441 01:07:31,619 --> 01:07:34,527 The kind of twisted perversity of the movie 1442 01:07:34,550 --> 01:07:37,103 is like really interesting, I think. 1443 01:07:38,309 --> 01:07:41,619 It's cheesy, but it's also queasy. 1444 01:07:43,034 --> 01:07:45,527 You're just kinda like, is she trying to fuck him? 1445 01:07:45,550 --> 01:07:47,286 This is making me uncomfortable. 1446 01:07:47,309 --> 01:07:48,309 Ooh. 1447 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,423 You're so cute. 1448 01:07:51,447 --> 01:07:53,112 It dealt with incest. 1449 01:07:53,137 --> 01:07:56,251 It dealt with repressed sexuality. 1450 01:07:56,275 --> 01:07:58,079 Homicidal tendencies. 1451 01:07:58,103 --> 01:08:00,630 I mean, this is like Tennessee Williams pathos 1452 01:08:00,655 --> 01:08:03,112 that we're dealing with in this really messed up film 1453 01:08:03,137 --> 01:08:04,423 where these people gave these 1454 01:08:04,447 --> 01:08:07,172 really disturbing performances. 1455 01:08:14,896 --> 01:08:16,940 Will Asher seemed like an odd choice to me, 1456 01:08:16,965 --> 01:08:20,043 having come from being creator of Bewitched, 1457 01:08:20,068 --> 01:08:22,595 and having directed I Love Lucy, 1458 01:08:22,619 --> 01:08:24,734 but he had a way with actors, 1459 01:08:24,757 --> 01:08:27,561 and he really brought in some great performances 1460 01:08:27,586 --> 01:08:28,586 in that film. 1461 01:08:29,827 --> 01:08:31,619 ♪ Billy's got a girlfriend, Billy ♪ 1462 01:08:32,448 --> 01:08:33,251 Billy, don't do that. 1463 01:08:33,274 --> 01:08:34,181 That's disgusting. 1464 01:08:34,206 --> 01:08:35,149 It's kind of a tour de force 1465 01:08:35,172 --> 01:08:36,975 mad over the top performance 1466 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,148 by Susan Tyrrell. 1467 01:08:38,171 --> 01:08:39,078 The only thing that's wrong 1468 01:08:39,103 --> 01:08:39,976 is that you are in my house. 1469 01:08:40,001 --> 01:08:41,907 Now get out of here! 1470 01:08:41,930 --> 01:08:42,872 Get out! 1471 01:08:42,895 --> 01:08:43,699 I just- 1472 01:08:43,724 --> 01:08:44,528 Get out of here! 1473 01:08:44,551 --> 01:08:46,216 I just want- 1474 01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:47,769 Where is her Oscar for "Butcher, Baker, Nightmare Maker"? 1475 01:08:47,792 --> 01:08:49,586 Retroactively give it to her. 1476 01:08:53,481 --> 01:08:54,872 What do you think you're doing? 1477 01:08:54,895 --> 01:08:56,975 This performance is like the performance 1478 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,940 of the 1980s. 1479 01:08:58,965 --> 01:09:00,412 A new girlfriend. 1480 01:09:02,412 --> 01:09:05,527 Susan Tyrrell is just getting more and more crazy 1481 01:09:05,551 --> 01:09:06,940 as the movie goes on. 1482 01:09:06,965 --> 01:09:08,595 Just a pleasure to watch. 1483 01:09:08,619 --> 01:09:10,631 It also has Bill Paxton in it, by the way, 1484 01:09:10,654 --> 01:09:12,975 who's kind of playing a bully character, 1485 01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,527 very similar to the character he plays 1486 01:09:14,551 --> 01:09:16,078 in "Weird Science". 1487 01:09:16,103 --> 01:09:17,664 He was supposed to be the lead originally 1488 01:09:17,689 --> 01:09:19,113 but they ended up going with someone 1489 01:09:19,136 --> 01:09:20,734 who was then more famous. 1490 01:09:20,757 --> 01:09:22,664 Some of us think we're better than others. 1491 01:09:22,689 --> 01:09:24,493 Some of us are better than others. 1492 01:09:24,516 --> 01:09:28,286 Paxton was so gung ho at the beginning of his career 1493 01:09:28,310 --> 01:09:31,286 that he would come to the cutting room. 1494 01:09:31,310 --> 01:09:34,181 He was the guy who really wanted to learn 1495 01:09:34,206 --> 01:09:36,527 about the whole movie making process, 1496 01:09:36,551 --> 01:09:38,389 and he went on to have such a great career, 1497 01:09:38,412 --> 01:09:41,319 and was gone way too soon. 1498 01:09:41,344 --> 01:09:45,769 I believe that you and Phil Brody 1499 01:09:45,792 --> 01:09:48,043 were having a lovers quarrel. 1500 01:09:48,068 --> 01:09:50,734 It has these queer themes, it plays on gay panic, 1501 01:09:50,757 --> 01:09:52,631 but in 1983 when it's re-released 1502 01:09:52,654 --> 01:09:55,561 as Night Warning, it's released into a world 1503 01:09:55,586 --> 01:09:58,423 that sees gay characters a little bit differently. 1504 01:09:58,448 --> 01:10:01,493 Keep it limp like 1505 01:10:01,516 --> 01:10:03,181 AIDS, by 1983, 1506 01:10:03,206 --> 01:10:06,595 it was referred to as Gay Plague, and Gay Cancer. 1507 01:10:06,619 --> 01:10:08,423 And that's what people were afraid of at the time. 1508 01:10:08,448 --> 01:10:10,423 Do you know that homosexuals 1509 01:10:10,448 --> 01:10:12,457 are very, very sick? 1510 01:10:12,481 --> 01:10:13,837 Do you know that, Billy? 1511 01:10:13,862 --> 01:10:15,527 Coach Flanders is not sick! 1512 01:10:15,551 --> 01:10:16,975 I don't know if I'll ever watch it again 1513 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,493 for the rest of my life, but I'm glad I saw it 1514 01:10:19,516 --> 01:10:20,551 when I was a kid. 1515 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,802 Probably made me into the weirdo that I am today. 1516 01:10:23,827 --> 01:10:24,827 I don't know. 1517 01:10:32,206 --> 01:10:33,493 "Parasite". 1518 01:10:33,516 --> 01:10:36,561 The first futuristic monster movie in 3D. 1519 01:10:36,586 --> 01:10:41,551 "Parasite 3D" was a Charlie Band movie. 1520 01:10:49,586 --> 01:10:52,457 And Stan Winston created the Parasite effects for us. 1521 01:10:52,481 --> 01:10:53,551 Low budget. 1522 01:10:59,551 --> 01:11:00,769 We gotta do something. 1523 01:11:00,792 --> 01:11:03,481 Notable for Demi Moore making her film debut. 1524 01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:05,412 Tell me where it is! 1525 01:11:06,448 --> 01:11:08,493 Go to hell! 1526 01:11:08,516 --> 01:11:13,457 It was set in a post nuclear world, 1527 01:11:13,481 --> 01:11:18,181 and there's this character who develops this parasite. 1528 01:11:18,206 --> 01:11:21,837 When it reproduces, it will cast millions 1529 01:11:21,862 --> 01:11:24,734 of microscopic spores into the air. 1530 01:11:24,757 --> 01:11:26,734 It grows over the course of the film, 1531 01:11:26,757 --> 01:11:28,216 and it gets into people, 1532 01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,699 and absorbs them from within, 1533 01:11:30,724 --> 01:11:32,319 and eventually it turns into this 1534 01:11:32,344 --> 01:11:34,412 big toothy creature. 1535 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,975 Stan Winston, Stan did my very first movie 1536 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,043 in the early 70s called "Mansion of the Doom", 1537 01:11:45,068 --> 01:11:46,907 and later on did "Parasite". 1538 01:11:46,930 --> 01:11:48,664 And Stan became super successful, 1539 01:11:48,689 --> 01:11:50,975 and I couldn't afford him, even though we stayed close 1540 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,068 til almost the end of his life, which was way too soon. 1541 01:11:55,619 --> 01:11:58,354 "Parasite" was one of the first 3D movies in 20 years. 1542 01:11:58,378 --> 01:12:01,664 It did really well, relative to a small movie. 1543 01:12:01,689 --> 01:12:04,286 I was hooked with the gimmickry of 3D. 1544 01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:05,975 Why was that cool for a while? 1545 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,699 Well, 'cause it was another dimension, 1546 01:12:07,724 --> 01:12:09,493 and it was something you couldn't really see at home. 1547 01:12:09,516 --> 01:12:12,078 Unless there's trickery or stuff that comes at you, 1548 01:12:12,103 --> 01:12:14,664 and you're having fun with the three dimensions, 1549 01:12:14,689 --> 01:12:16,033 to me it's not worth it. 1550 01:12:19,171 --> 01:12:21,595 I remember it being pretty schlocky, 1551 01:12:21,619 --> 01:12:23,872 but the parasite effects were pretty cool, 1552 01:12:23,895 --> 01:12:25,757 and the 3D was pretty cool. 1553 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,286 In terms of pantheon of Stan Winston projects, 1554 01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:40,689 it's not the one he's most proud of. 1555 01:12:47,619 --> 01:12:49,078 "Madman". 1556 01:12:49,103 --> 01:12:50,412 There is no escape. 1557 01:12:53,895 --> 01:12:56,181 I really love "Madman". 1558 01:12:56,206 --> 01:12:58,837 He was a farmer with this family, 1559 01:12:58,862 --> 01:13:00,423 wife and two children. 1560 01:13:00,448 --> 01:13:02,078 He was an evil man. 1561 01:13:02,103 --> 01:13:04,872 I have a "Madman" poster on my wall. 1562 01:13:04,895 --> 01:13:06,493 He walked into his bedroom 1563 01:13:06,516 --> 01:13:10,457 with an ax in his hand and chopped his sleeping wife. 1564 01:13:10,481 --> 01:13:12,251 It was kind of a "Sleepaway Camp" movie, 1565 01:13:12,274 --> 01:13:15,078 that I think fell under the radar a little bit. 1566 01:13:15,103 --> 01:13:18,043 His name is Mars. 1567 01:13:18,068 --> 01:13:19,068 Madman Mars. 1568 01:13:21,136 --> 01:13:23,664 Oh no, Madman Mars is coming upon us 1569 01:13:23,689 --> 01:13:25,940 at the campsite, but it was just like, 1570 01:13:25,965 --> 01:13:28,872 you loved it for the feel, the energy, 1571 01:13:28,895 --> 01:13:30,319 the New York vibe. 1572 01:13:30,344 --> 01:13:31,252 You know, Betsy. 1573 01:13:31,275 --> 01:13:33,286 I don't have many women friends, 1574 01:13:33,310 --> 01:13:35,561 and I think you're one of them. 1575 01:13:35,586 --> 01:13:36,802 Oh, I am. 1576 01:13:36,827 --> 01:13:38,423 Hey, give me your number in the city. 1577 01:13:38,448 --> 01:13:40,423 It's like, they're in the woods! 1578 01:13:40,448 --> 01:13:41,802 They're gonna get killed! 1579 01:13:41,827 --> 01:13:44,423 You just love that the Madman was coming, 1580 01:13:44,448 --> 01:13:47,000 and you didn't know who he was gonna kill. 1581 01:13:51,757 --> 01:13:53,837 We used to watch it all the time. 1582 01:13:53,862 --> 01:13:55,319 My friends would laugh. 1583 01:13:55,344 --> 01:13:57,010 Most of them were giggling, like ooh! 1584 01:13:57,033 --> 01:13:57,838 You know. 1585 01:13:57,863 --> 01:13:59,274 I couldn't even eat. 1586 01:14:00,206 --> 01:14:01,664 And the blood, and the effects. 1587 01:14:01,689 --> 01:14:04,827 It just all looked so real to me, and scared me. 1588 01:14:08,965 --> 01:14:13,010 "Madman" always looked like a big furry suit to me. 1589 01:14:13,033 --> 01:14:16,319 He was in a shadow, but he looked kind of furry. 1590 01:14:16,344 --> 01:14:18,206 And I was like oh, he's kinda cute. 1591 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,561 I'm friends with Gary Sales. 1592 01:14:23,586 --> 01:14:26,078 He was really taken by surprise 1593 01:14:26,103 --> 01:14:27,654 with the success of the film. 1594 01:14:29,033 --> 01:14:30,011 With a lot of the 80s films, 1595 01:14:30,034 --> 01:14:33,286 there were no real boundaries. 1596 01:14:33,310 --> 01:14:36,378 They were just done, like let's push the envelope. 1597 01:14:40,827 --> 01:14:43,975 Let's have fun, not to intentionally hurt anyone, 1598 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,078 but just because we're batshit crazy, 1599 01:14:46,103 --> 01:14:47,595 and we're making a horror movie, 1600 01:14:47,619 --> 01:14:50,113 and I think movies like "Madman" just went for it. 1601 01:14:50,136 --> 01:14:52,113 They were like, let's just kind of, 1602 01:14:52,136 --> 01:14:53,595 you know, get a monster. 1603 01:14:53,619 --> 01:14:55,802 Have him running around killing people, and woo-hoo! 1604 01:14:55,827 --> 01:15:00,000 And it's just simple, but so fantastic. 1605 01:15:01,412 --> 01:15:04,206 It's like silly and great, all tied into one. 1606 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,595 Fans of gothic horror 1607 01:15:17,619 --> 01:15:19,792 will not be disappointed. 1608 01:15:22,827 --> 01:15:25,837 Jackie Karen inherits this rural estate, 1609 01:15:25,862 --> 01:15:27,389 and on the rural estate is a retirement home 1610 01:15:27,412 --> 01:15:29,699 full of elderly patients, 1611 01:15:29,724 --> 01:15:31,930 and there are mysterious deaths happening. 1612 01:15:34,412 --> 01:15:35,907 Bit of a murder mystery, because someone 1613 01:15:35,930 --> 01:15:36,804 is committing these crimes, 1614 01:15:36,828 --> 01:15:38,010 and you're not sure who 1615 01:15:38,033 --> 01:15:40,103 among these cast of characters it is. 1616 01:15:42,206 --> 01:15:43,389 Are there ghosts? 1617 01:15:43,412 --> 01:15:45,354 Are there supernatural elements at play? 1618 01:15:45,378 --> 01:15:48,757 Because it feels like you're in this dream. 1619 01:15:53,378 --> 01:15:56,274 It's kind of that moment between asleep and awake. 1620 01:16:00,481 --> 01:16:03,206 Jackie discovers her mother's childhood diary in the film. 1621 01:16:04,344 --> 01:16:07,010 Lights going on and off, 1622 01:16:07,033 --> 01:16:08,561 taps left running. 1623 01:16:08,586 --> 01:16:10,699 It comes to pass that the things in the diary 1624 01:16:10,724 --> 01:16:13,078 start to happen to her within the plot of the film, 1625 01:16:13,103 --> 01:16:15,113 which is all leading up to this revelation 1626 01:16:15,136 --> 01:16:17,664 that her late aunt might not be as late 1627 01:16:17,689 --> 01:16:19,769 as she was led to believe. 1628 01:16:19,792 --> 01:16:21,354 What's that? 1629 01:16:21,378 --> 01:16:22,448 Didn't die. 1630 01:16:23,516 --> 01:16:25,493 There are some horrific images in this. 1631 01:16:25,516 --> 01:16:28,000 It's a man drowned in the bathtub. 1632 01:16:31,757 --> 01:16:33,664 And he's just like bloated. 1633 01:16:33,689 --> 01:16:35,734 It's tragic, but it's also very scary. 1634 01:16:35,757 --> 01:16:38,000 Something that just like sticks in your mind. 1635 01:16:42,827 --> 01:16:44,181 "Next of Kin" was written and directed 1636 01:16:44,206 --> 01:16:46,113 by Tony Williams. 1637 01:16:46,136 --> 01:16:49,113 In this film, you can see a lot of horror DNA. 1638 01:16:49,136 --> 01:16:50,216 You can see some Clouzot, 1639 01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,457 you see "Les Diabolique" in there. 1640 01:16:51,481 --> 01:16:53,664 You can see some Fulci in there. 1641 01:16:53,689 --> 01:16:56,113 Any time somebody gets it in the eyeballs. 1642 01:16:56,136 --> 01:16:57,689 Linda! 1643 01:17:01,619 --> 01:17:02,837 Oh, it's rest home horror, 1644 01:17:02,862 --> 01:17:04,664 which is very cool, but it's very gothic, 1645 01:17:04,689 --> 01:17:07,010 and it's what we might call today slow burn horror. 1646 01:17:07,033 --> 01:17:12,000 It's got that nice Australian unhinged energy to it. 1647 01:17:18,619 --> 01:17:19,769 Australian horror from the 80s 1648 01:17:19,792 --> 01:17:20,975 doesn't get a lot of love, 1649 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,769 but when there's a nice example of it, 1650 01:17:23,792 --> 01:17:25,965 like "Next of Kin", it's fun to revisit. 1651 01:17:38,448 --> 01:17:40,527 "Amityville Horror", big boogeyman story 1652 01:17:40,551 --> 01:17:42,010 on the east coast in the 70s. 1653 01:17:42,033 --> 01:17:46,181 True crime, kid shotguns his parents, and his siblings, 1654 01:17:46,206 --> 01:17:49,010 and he claims demonic possession was part of it. 1655 01:17:49,033 --> 01:17:51,286 It gets turned into a book. 1656 01:17:51,310 --> 01:17:52,769 It eventually gets made into a movie 1657 01:17:52,792 --> 01:17:54,423 with James Brolin and Margot Kidder. 1658 01:17:54,448 --> 01:17:57,940 To this day you see those windows, "Amityville Horror". 1659 01:17:57,965 --> 01:17:59,493 Three years later, they're making 1660 01:17:59,516 --> 01:18:01,251 "Amityville 2: The Possession", 1661 01:18:01,274 --> 01:18:05,043 which is essentially the true story 1662 01:18:05,068 --> 01:18:07,344 of the kid killing his family. 1663 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,319 - "Amityville -The Possession". 1664 01:18:13,344 --> 01:18:15,216 "Amityville: The Possession". 1665 01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,423 It has to do with possession, 1666 01:18:17,448 --> 01:18:19,274 but mainly it's about incest. 1667 01:18:20,378 --> 01:18:21,827 Take off your nightgown. 1668 01:18:22,862 --> 01:18:24,319 What? 1669 01:18:24,344 --> 01:18:26,769 This prequel is loosely based on the DeFeo murders, 1670 01:18:26,792 --> 01:18:28,792 but the names have been changed. 1671 01:18:29,930 --> 01:18:31,078 Everything seems quite idyllic. 1672 01:18:31,103 --> 01:18:32,527 It's a nice little lovely family, 1673 01:18:32,551 --> 01:18:33,664 until it's not. 1674 01:18:33,689 --> 01:18:35,113 The dad's a fucking asshole. 1675 01:18:35,136 --> 01:18:37,802 He's abusive to everybody in the family. 1676 01:18:37,827 --> 01:18:39,078 - Think you're funny? - What are you doing? 1677 01:18:39,103 --> 01:18:40,216 Huh? 1678 01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:41,734 You can't hit him- 1679 01:18:41,757 --> 01:18:45,862 Burt Young is maybe the scuzziest dad in horror. 1680 01:18:46,792 --> 01:18:48,654 Please, don't hit that child. 1681 01:18:50,136 --> 01:18:51,631 Listen, this isn't your business, you hear that? 1682 01:18:51,654 --> 01:18:53,664 We've got a teenage son and a teenage daughter. 1683 01:18:53,689 --> 01:18:57,181 They've got a real weird dynamic right off the get-go, 1684 01:18:57,206 --> 01:18:59,699 and it's one of those things where you're questioning, 1685 01:18:59,724 --> 01:19:01,148 is it supposed to be like that? 1686 01:19:01,171 --> 01:19:02,319 Maybe the actors were just having 1687 01:19:02,344 --> 01:19:03,940 a little too much chemistry 1688 01:19:03,965 --> 01:19:05,310 for brother and sister. 1689 01:19:06,481 --> 01:19:08,423 Until the brother gets possessed, 1690 01:19:08,448 --> 01:19:10,148 and then gets it on with his sister, 1691 01:19:10,171 --> 01:19:12,181 who is not possessed, so I don't really know 1692 01:19:12,206 --> 01:19:13,619 what her excuse was. 1693 01:19:15,448 --> 01:19:17,595 Playing the young daughter is Diane Franklin 1694 01:19:17,619 --> 01:19:20,078 from "Last American Virgin", "Better Off Dead", 1695 01:19:20,103 --> 01:19:22,734 real apple pie, America's sweetheart type stuff. 1696 01:19:22,757 --> 01:19:25,181 And if you wanna watch her have sex with her brother, 1697 01:19:25,206 --> 01:19:27,654 "Amityville II" is the film for you. 1698 01:19:30,310 --> 01:19:31,769 This skin-crawling incest that happens in the film 1699 01:19:31,792 --> 01:19:34,389 was actually cut down from what was in the original cut, 1700 01:19:34,412 --> 01:19:36,078 and it was apparently a lot more graphic. 1701 01:19:36,103 --> 01:19:37,595 "Amityville II: The Possession" 1702 01:19:37,619 --> 01:19:41,734 was directed by Italian director, Damiano Damiani. 1703 01:19:41,757 --> 01:19:43,699 Written by Tommy Lee Wallace. 1704 01:19:43,724 --> 01:19:47,216 Best known for "Halloween 3: Season of the Witch". 1705 01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,940 And he co-wrote this with Dardano Sacchetti 1706 01:19:49,965 --> 01:19:53,000 who often worked with Lucio Fulci. 1707 01:19:54,895 --> 01:19:57,975 This one actually does have really wonderful effects. 1708 01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,595 I mean, it's just like 80s to the core. 1709 01:20:00,619 --> 01:20:02,113 Bladder effects, like as the brother 1710 01:20:02,136 --> 01:20:04,837 is becoming more and more possessed, 1711 01:20:04,862 --> 01:20:08,000 neck is just pulsing, or his head will be pulsing. 1712 01:20:10,757 --> 01:20:14,251 My favorite moment in "Amityville II: The Possession", 1713 01:20:14,274 --> 01:20:15,631 there's this part where the camera 1714 01:20:15,654 --> 01:20:17,251 kind of goes overhead, when he's like, 1715 01:20:17,274 --> 01:20:21,551 I guess the demon is really going into his body. 1716 01:20:23,895 --> 01:20:26,286 "Amityville: The Possession", and "Amityville" 1717 01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:30,940 the original first film are two totally separate entities. 1718 01:20:30,965 --> 01:20:32,734 The tone is not the same. 1719 01:20:32,757 --> 01:20:35,699 The first one is just straight up scary. 1720 01:20:35,724 --> 01:20:38,354 The second one has kinds of all these weird 1721 01:20:38,378 --> 01:20:39,654 other tones in it. 1722 01:20:41,619 --> 01:20:43,010 You wanted it! 1723 01:20:43,033 --> 01:20:45,344 You feel very uncomfortable for different reasons. 1724 01:20:46,274 --> 01:20:47,217 Look at them. 1725 01:20:47,242 --> 01:20:49,389 They're pathetic animals. 1726 01:20:49,412 --> 01:20:51,448 They'd be better off if you killed them. 1727 01:20:52,654 --> 01:20:53,631 The second one is just like fuck it, 1728 01:20:53,655 --> 01:20:54,872 let's go off the rails. 1729 01:20:54,895 --> 01:20:56,664 We're gonna loosely use this title, 1730 01:20:56,689 --> 01:21:00,103 and then just go way off into left field over here. 1731 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,389 And it's for that extra bit of sickening material, 1732 01:21:06,412 --> 01:21:08,010 and there's lots of it in this picture, 1733 01:21:08,033 --> 01:21:10,113 that's the reason that "Amityville II: The Possession" 1734 01:21:10,136 --> 01:21:13,000 makes my list as one of the worst films of the year. 1735 01:21:18,206 --> 01:21:21,551 That no one would ever forget the girls 1736 01:21:23,654 --> 01:21:26,493 in "The House On Sorority Row". 1737 01:21:26,516 --> 01:21:31,319 That mystical world of the sorority fraternity culture, 1738 01:21:31,344 --> 01:21:33,493 in the 80s, all films were pointing us 1739 01:21:33,516 --> 01:21:34,734 towards that's where you're going. 1740 01:21:34,757 --> 01:21:36,631 If it's not "Revenge of the Nerds", 1741 01:21:36,654 --> 01:21:38,561 it's "The House on Sorority Row". 1742 01:21:38,586 --> 01:21:39,458 I wanna thank you for helping me 1743 01:21:39,483 --> 01:21:41,654 become what I am today. 1744 01:21:42,586 --> 01:21:45,171 Wasted. 1745 01:21:46,481 --> 01:21:48,251 And then it's like, what crazy debauchery 1746 01:21:48,274 --> 01:21:49,769 is gonna happen within the walls 1747 01:21:49,792 --> 01:21:51,148 of that sorority house? 1748 01:21:51,171 --> 01:21:52,802 And how will we be punished 1749 01:21:52,827 --> 01:21:55,103 for indulging in that debauchery? 1750 01:21:59,654 --> 01:22:00,975 You filth! 1751 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,527 Evil house mother. 1752 01:22:03,551 --> 01:22:07,033 The house mother to end all house mothers. 1753 01:22:07,965 --> 01:22:10,561 Is killed accidentally 1754 01:22:10,586 --> 01:22:13,423 by sorority girls, 1755 01:22:13,448 --> 01:22:16,344 and revenge ensues. 1756 01:22:20,930 --> 01:22:24,631 I got my start "House on Sorority Row". 1757 01:22:24,654 --> 01:22:28,319 I'd just come out of theater school. 1758 01:22:28,344 --> 01:22:30,595 I think we got paid $50 a day. 1759 01:22:30,619 --> 01:22:31,837 We worked really hard, you know. 1760 01:22:31,862 --> 01:22:34,274 We shot night for night for weeks. 1761 01:22:35,895 --> 01:22:38,664 So we were like zombies during the day. 1762 01:22:38,689 --> 01:22:40,769 The director, he kept a firm hand 1763 01:22:40,792 --> 01:22:44,561 without ever being an asshole, to be honest. 1764 01:22:44,586 --> 01:22:47,000 Which is saying a lot for a first endeavor. 1765 01:22:51,206 --> 01:22:53,148 Everyone else is wearing a cute frock, 1766 01:22:53,171 --> 01:22:55,837 and I'm wearing these ugly beige pants 1767 01:22:55,862 --> 01:22:58,078 and this sweater, and I had to run around 1768 01:22:58,103 --> 01:23:01,319 in that stupid outfit, and put it on everyday. 1769 01:23:01,344 --> 01:23:04,113 And I did not feel like I looked terrific. 1770 01:23:04,136 --> 01:23:05,136 She's alive. 1771 01:23:06,310 --> 01:23:07,975 We put her back in the pool, 1772 01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,699 and she was still alive! 1773 01:23:09,724 --> 01:23:11,975 He also colored my hair brown, 1774 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,802 because of course, smart good girls have brown hair. 1775 01:23:14,827 --> 01:23:18,664 Me being the good girl, the one who stays in the house 1776 01:23:18,689 --> 01:23:21,010 while her friends are being murdered left and right. 1777 01:23:21,033 --> 01:23:22,586 That always makes me giggle. 1778 01:23:28,103 --> 01:23:29,595 Would you not run away? 1779 01:23:29,619 --> 01:23:31,872 Are you gonna go roaming around in this house 1780 01:23:31,895 --> 01:23:33,423 looking for clues? 1781 01:23:33,448 --> 01:23:37,000 But I was drugged, so I do have that to defend me. 1782 01:23:38,103 --> 01:23:39,664 Just a mild sedative. 1783 01:23:39,689 --> 01:23:41,631 It definitely had a style 1784 01:23:41,654 --> 01:23:44,516 that a lot of low budget films really don't have. 1785 01:23:50,654 --> 01:23:52,907 "The House on Sorority Row" ended up being 1786 01:23:52,930 --> 01:23:54,734 one of those movies that became 1787 01:23:54,757 --> 01:23:56,586 a bit of a cult fan favorite. 1788 01:24:00,412 --> 01:24:03,561 As much as I like to say it's all because it's great film, 1789 01:24:03,586 --> 01:24:05,940 I think some of it is, you know, fun 1790 01:24:05,965 --> 01:24:08,043 in that it's a little bit over the top, 1791 01:24:08,068 --> 01:24:11,344 and when you think that's part of the appeal of the genre. 1792 01:24:14,412 --> 01:24:16,286 I never thought I'd be talking about it. 1793 01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:17,664 You know, I'm 63. 1794 01:24:17,689 --> 01:24:21,148 I was 23. 1795 01:24:21,171 --> 01:24:24,113 Wow. 1796 01:24:24,136 --> 01:24:26,699 But I have no regrets whatsoever. 1797 01:24:26,724 --> 01:24:28,000 It was fun. 1798 01:24:43,412 --> 01:24:46,251 As an actor watching films, 1799 01:24:46,274 --> 01:24:49,389 I certainly dial into performances. 1800 01:24:49,412 --> 01:24:53,000 I sort of learned my craft by doing. 1801 01:24:54,448 --> 01:24:55,872 I had taken dance lessons, 1802 01:24:55,895 --> 01:24:58,757 and so I started out doing theater. 1803 01:25:01,310 --> 01:25:02,527 ♪ Lady Godiva 1804 01:25:02,551 --> 01:25:05,527 The first television project I did was Maude. 1805 01:25:05,551 --> 01:25:08,595 And it was a four camera sitcom 1806 01:25:08,619 --> 01:25:10,216 that we filmed like a play. 1807 01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,216 So stop asking who I was out with, 1808 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:13,319 what we had for dinner, 1809 01:25:13,344 --> 01:25:15,068 and did we go all the way. 1810 01:25:17,965 --> 01:25:21,975 And then my next real film education 1811 01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,493 came when I did "Someone's Watching Me" 1812 01:25:24,516 --> 01:25:26,113 for John Carpenter. 1813 01:25:26,136 --> 01:25:29,975 I played, I believe, the first lesbian woman 1814 01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,216 in a television film. 1815 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,216 And he had written a fantastic scene 1816 01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:37,148 in which her sexuality is revealed. 1817 01:25:37,171 --> 01:25:38,171 Who's he? 1818 01:25:40,171 --> 01:25:41,171 She. 1819 01:25:42,136 --> 01:25:43,769 And we did it, and John came up to me 1820 01:25:43,792 --> 01:25:45,907 and he said that was great, that was perfect. 1821 01:25:45,930 --> 01:25:47,043 Do less. 1822 01:25:47,068 --> 01:25:47,872 Don't worry. 1823 01:25:47,895 --> 01:25:48,895 You're not my type. 1824 01:25:49,757 --> 01:25:51,148 I'm not worried. 1825 01:25:51,171 --> 01:25:54,010 And it was the proverbial light bulb going off. 1826 01:25:54,033 --> 01:25:56,148 Oh, because it's film, 1827 01:25:56,171 --> 01:25:58,078 because it's not theater. 1828 01:25:58,103 --> 01:25:59,493 Do less. 1829 01:25:59,516 --> 01:26:02,113 Now, especially something like "Creepshow", 1830 01:26:02,136 --> 01:26:03,907 which was George Romero, 1831 01:26:03,930 --> 01:26:06,907 which was such an outrageous character, 1832 01:26:06,930 --> 01:26:09,907 which was George saying no, you can be bigger! 1833 01:26:09,930 --> 01:26:11,699 You can be bigger, you can be bigger. 1834 01:26:11,724 --> 01:26:13,286 That was like, wait a minute, wait a minute. 1835 01:26:13,310 --> 01:26:16,975 I just spent the last three years learning to do less. 1836 01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,010 I mean, where would you be without me to take care of you? 1837 01:26:20,033 --> 01:26:23,527 The important thing about approaching a character 1838 01:26:23,551 --> 01:26:26,527 like Billy in "Creepshow", who everybody will watch 1839 01:26:26,551 --> 01:26:29,251 the movie and say oh, she's just a bitch. 1840 01:26:29,274 --> 01:26:31,113 When was the last time you got it up, Henry? 1841 01:26:31,136 --> 01:26:32,595 Huh? 1842 01:26:32,619 --> 01:26:34,493 When was the last time you were a man in our bed? 1843 01:26:34,516 --> 01:26:36,493 She's the most horrible, and she needed to be 1844 01:26:36,516 --> 01:26:39,595 so that everybody would cheer when Henry 1845 01:26:39,619 --> 01:26:41,216 arranged for her demise. 1846 01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:42,480 Don't you ever touch me again! 1847 01:26:48,103 --> 01:26:51,181 As an actor, you don't play I'm a bitch. 1848 01:26:51,206 --> 01:26:54,493 You explore whatever it is that made her 1849 01:26:54,516 --> 01:26:55,493 the way she was. 1850 01:26:55,518 --> 01:26:58,010 She's incredibly disappointed 1851 01:26:58,033 --> 01:27:00,113 in the way her life turned out. 1852 01:27:00,136 --> 01:27:02,457 Henry, goddammit! 1853 01:27:02,481 --> 01:27:03,975 How many times have I told you 1854 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,527 to lock the goddam door? 1855 01:27:05,551 --> 01:27:07,043 You have to understand what it is 1856 01:27:07,068 --> 01:27:09,113 that drives the behavior. 1857 01:27:09,136 --> 01:27:11,216 At least Henry has me to take care of him, 1858 01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,493 don't you, dear? 1859 01:27:12,516 --> 01:27:13,975 I didn't see a lot of films growing up, 1860 01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,251 but I do remember something called "Donovan's Brain". 1861 01:27:17,274 --> 01:27:19,907 I don't know that I had ever seen a horror film 1862 01:27:19,930 --> 01:27:23,595 besides "Donovan's Brain", until John invited me 1863 01:27:23,619 --> 01:27:26,206 to the screening of "Halloween". 1864 01:27:27,586 --> 01:27:31,010 I had just done The Tonight Show earlier that day, 1865 01:27:31,033 --> 01:27:33,699 and announced on Johnny Carson 1866 01:27:33,724 --> 01:27:36,319 that John and I were engaged. 1867 01:27:36,344 --> 01:27:39,975 And then I went to the screening of "Halloween". 1868 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,907 By the end of that film, I suspect that he was 1869 01:27:42,930 --> 01:27:45,664 black and blue, because I kept going, oh my god! 1870 01:27:45,689 --> 01:27:46,493 Oh my god! 1871 01:27:46,518 --> 01:27:48,078 I was like, oh, oh! 1872 01:27:48,103 --> 01:27:48,976 Oh my, oh! 1873 01:27:49,001 --> 01:27:51,389 You know? 1874 01:27:51,412 --> 01:27:54,068 It's the first horror film I'd ever seen. 1875 01:27:55,206 --> 01:27:57,319 It was at that point that Tom Atkins, 1876 01:27:57,344 --> 01:27:58,664 who is also at the screening, 1877 01:27:58,689 --> 01:28:00,907 leaned over to me and said Addy, 1878 01:28:00,930 --> 01:28:02,907 I'm not sure you should marry this guy. 1879 01:28:02,930 --> 01:28:05,286 We cannot let Adrienne marry this guy. 1880 01:28:05,310 --> 01:28:07,423 There's something wrong with him. 1881 01:28:07,448 --> 01:28:09,251 He makes this kind of movie. 1882 01:28:09,274 --> 01:28:10,527 But she married him, 1883 01:28:10,551 --> 01:28:13,481 and they had a lovely child together, Cody. 1884 01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:16,734 Well, stay up with me. 1885 01:28:16,757 --> 01:28:19,907 And I'll figure out some way to keep you occupied. 1886 01:28:19,930 --> 01:28:23,769 When John first had me read the script for "The Fog", 1887 01:28:23,792 --> 01:28:26,664 I was pretty involved in social issues. 1888 01:28:26,689 --> 01:28:28,389 "Coming Home" was a huge hit, 1889 01:28:28,412 --> 01:28:31,734 and "The China Syndrome" was a huge hit. 1890 01:28:31,757 --> 01:28:34,113 And I read it, and it was like, 1891 01:28:34,136 --> 01:28:37,310 uh, this is a horror film. 1892 01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:43,148 This is not about women's rights. 1893 01:28:43,171 --> 01:28:44,907 It's not about abortion. 1894 01:28:44,930 --> 01:28:47,251 But, I mean, I loved the character and everything, 1895 01:28:47,274 --> 01:28:50,457 and of course, since, it's one of the things 1896 01:28:50,481 --> 01:28:53,344 that I am most proud of doing. 1897 01:28:58,136 --> 01:29:01,354 The one piece of merchandise that I really love, 1898 01:29:01,378 --> 01:29:03,595 "The Fog" action figure. 1899 01:29:03,619 --> 01:29:06,619 I think that's a marvelous piece of merchandising. 1900 01:29:09,378 --> 01:29:10,907 None of us knew in the 80s 1901 01:29:10,930 --> 01:29:12,975 that the work we were doing, 1902 01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,043 "Escape From New York", or "The Fog", or "Creepshow', 1903 01:29:16,068 --> 01:29:20,862 would be as viable today. 1904 01:29:22,206 --> 01:29:24,689 The career of an actor, when it works, 1905 01:29:25,586 --> 01:29:26,965 is a wonderful career. 1906 01:29:43,274 --> 01:29:44,423 "Xtro". 1907 01:29:44,448 --> 01:29:47,354 Some extraterrestrials aren't friendly. 1908 01:29:47,378 --> 01:29:48,389 From New Line Cinema. 1909 01:29:48,412 --> 01:29:49,872 Rated R. 1910 01:29:49,895 --> 01:29:51,423 Roger begins with a horror film called "Xtro". 1911 01:29:51,448 --> 01:29:52,907 That's X-T-R-O. 1912 01:29:52,930 --> 01:29:55,181 Remember that spelling, remember that name. 1913 01:29:55,206 --> 01:29:58,975 So, "Xtro" is about an alien that kills people, 1914 01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:02,457 but it's also the cliche of the disturbed kid 1915 01:30:02,481 --> 01:30:06,171 with the powers, and evil clowns, too. 1916 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,757 It's kind of everything. 1917 01:30:16,551 --> 01:30:19,389 I'd say it's very confusing 1918 01:30:19,412 --> 01:30:21,907 slightly surrealistic movie, 1919 01:30:21,930 --> 01:30:24,551 and I'm not really sure what it's about. 1920 01:30:25,792 --> 01:30:27,907 So a father gets abducted by aliens. 1921 01:30:27,930 --> 01:30:30,286 The wife thinks that he ran off with another woman. 1922 01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:32,310 The alien impregnates somebody. 1923 01:30:35,448 --> 01:30:39,078 Then the woman gives birth to a human child, 1924 01:30:39,103 --> 01:30:40,975 and it turns out to be the father, 1925 01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,965 who's been abducted and reborn. 1926 01:30:44,136 --> 01:30:47,113 I'm told that it's about abandonment. 1927 01:30:47,136 --> 01:30:50,319 Some very smart critic told me that. 1928 01:30:50,344 --> 01:30:53,319 And I just hung onto that word every since then. 1929 01:30:53,344 --> 01:30:55,975 I can't remember a thing until today. 1930 01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:57,527 I saw Tony in the streets, so- 1931 01:30:57,551 --> 01:30:59,043 You want to come home. 1932 01:30:59,068 --> 01:31:00,251 Like it was. 1933 01:31:00,274 --> 01:31:02,561 I think what makes marketable film 1934 01:31:02,586 --> 01:31:04,412 of any kind is being unusual. 1935 01:31:05,586 --> 01:31:07,319 Bob Shaye, who's the head of New Line, 1936 01:31:07,344 --> 01:31:08,975 and who started New Line, 1937 01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,561 I think Bob Shaye wanted to have his own "Phantasm". 1938 01:31:12,586 --> 01:31:14,113 We just wanted to shock people, 1939 01:31:14,136 --> 01:31:15,493 and make our little horror film, 1940 01:31:15,516 --> 01:31:17,595 and we wanted to have good acting and so on, 1941 01:31:17,619 --> 01:31:19,734 so you've got this rather uneasy business, 1942 01:31:19,757 --> 01:31:22,181 between all these little Shakespearean actors, 1943 01:31:22,206 --> 01:31:25,354 and all this nonsense that they've got to talk. 1944 01:31:25,378 --> 01:31:27,274 You'll be able to do lots of things. 1945 01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:29,631 Don't be frightened. 1946 01:31:29,654 --> 01:31:30,872 Use it when you need it. 1947 01:31:30,895 --> 01:31:32,113 The best part in "Xtro", 1948 01:31:32,136 --> 01:31:33,872 there's this creepy alien effect 1949 01:31:33,895 --> 01:31:35,699 where it's a person doing one of those 1950 01:31:35,724 --> 01:31:37,319 backwards spider walks. 1951 01:31:37,344 --> 01:31:39,251 The prosthetic is put on backwards, 1952 01:31:39,274 --> 01:31:41,171 so it looks very unsettling. 1953 01:31:42,757 --> 01:31:45,872 He's walking backwards with his back to the ground 1954 01:31:45,895 --> 01:31:48,595 on all fours, but with his stomach sticking up 1955 01:31:48,619 --> 01:31:52,457 to the sky, and the head of the creature on backwards, 1956 01:31:52,481 --> 01:31:54,181 which was absolute misery for him, 1957 01:31:54,206 --> 01:31:56,457 because it was cold, and we were having him 1958 01:31:56,481 --> 01:31:58,724 walking through swamps, and things like that. 1959 01:32:03,068 --> 01:32:04,975 A civilization develops enough intelligence 1960 01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,561 to come all the way to Earth from another star, 1961 01:32:07,586 --> 01:32:08,940 and then they don't have enough sense 1962 01:32:08,965 --> 01:32:10,251 to not stand in the middle of the road 1963 01:32:10,274 --> 01:32:11,769 when a car is coming. 1964 01:32:11,792 --> 01:32:13,631 When it came to this birth scene, 1965 01:32:13,654 --> 01:32:15,457 which, I think nobody understood 1966 01:32:15,481 --> 01:32:18,216 except me and the special effects guys. 1967 01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,010 We had to have a thing with the false floor, 1968 01:32:20,033 --> 01:32:22,561 and all this sort of thing, and trap doors, and whatnot. 1969 01:32:22,586 --> 01:32:24,769 We did a lot of it in one take. 1970 01:32:24,792 --> 01:32:27,010 As much of it as we could in one take. 1971 01:32:27,033 --> 01:32:29,561 All sorts of nasty kind of afterbirth stuff. 1972 01:32:29,586 --> 01:32:31,595 And then we had the umbilical cord, 1973 01:32:31,619 --> 01:32:34,286 that we made out of spaghetti, actually. 1974 01:32:34,310 --> 01:32:35,872 And he had to bite through that. 1975 01:32:35,895 --> 01:32:37,975 We were astonished we got it. 1976 01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,907 No, I wasn't a bit worried about it going too far. 1977 01:32:39,930 --> 01:32:42,310 I was worried about it not going far enough. 1978 01:32:44,516 --> 01:32:47,837 Bob, god bless him, was always more for having 1979 01:32:47,862 --> 01:32:49,734 more weird things going on. 1980 01:32:49,757 --> 01:32:51,664 He said hey, you gotta have a panther in there, 1981 01:32:51,689 --> 01:32:52,699 jumping out at someone. 1982 01:32:52,724 --> 01:32:53,666 Something like that. 1983 01:32:53,689 --> 01:32:54,975 He wanted his panther. 1984 01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:56,757 And he got it. 1985 01:33:02,516 --> 01:33:04,113 It's as if they're so pretentious 1986 01:33:04,136 --> 01:33:05,354 that they're trying to make some kind of 1987 01:33:05,378 --> 01:33:07,043 a philosophical statement. 1988 01:33:07,068 --> 01:33:07,940 It was garbage. 1989 01:33:07,965 --> 01:33:08,872 It was offensive. 1990 01:33:08,896 --> 01:33:10,181 Garbage is the operative word. 1991 01:33:10,206 --> 01:33:12,319 With little films like these, 1992 01:33:12,344 --> 01:33:14,769 the audience knows it's a low budget film. 1993 01:33:14,792 --> 01:33:15,975 They know right away. 1994 01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,010 They can sniff it from the first frame. 1995 01:33:18,033 --> 01:33:20,516 And they tend to be more forgiving. 1996 01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:27,907 That was just at the start of home video. 1997 01:33:27,930 --> 01:33:30,975 And I remember the first week that we came out, 1998 01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,561 we beat "Poltergeist", if you can believe that, 1999 01:33:33,586 --> 01:33:35,792 in the VHS ratings. 2000 01:33:40,171 --> 01:33:43,078 It grew legs, and it just ran off. 2001 01:33:43,103 --> 01:33:46,457 It absolutely killed in the home video market. 2002 01:33:46,481 --> 01:33:47,792 Amazing. 2003 01:33:58,551 --> 01:34:00,010 "Curtains". 2004 01:34:00,033 --> 01:34:01,975 The ultimate nightmare. 2005 01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:03,493 Canadian horror movie. 2006 01:34:03,516 --> 01:34:05,493 When you come from Canada, you don't really realize 2007 01:34:05,516 --> 01:34:06,631 that the movies are from Canada. 2008 01:34:06,654 --> 01:34:07,907 Like Rush. 2009 01:34:07,930 --> 01:34:09,043 You don't think of it as Canada's best band. 2010 01:34:09,068 --> 01:34:10,940 They're just a great band. 2011 01:34:10,965 --> 01:34:12,010 And what's the difference? 2012 01:34:12,033 --> 01:34:14,286 I mean, they're more friendly? 2013 01:34:14,310 --> 01:34:16,448 It kind of just blends in with the American ones. 2014 01:34:18,895 --> 01:34:21,493 "Curtains" is about a bunch of actresses 2015 01:34:21,516 --> 01:34:24,493 who go to a director's mansion to audition for a role. 2016 01:34:24,516 --> 01:34:25,872 Red flag. 2017 01:34:25,895 --> 01:34:28,310 And there is a killer on the loose. 2018 01:34:32,448 --> 01:34:35,389 And they're all also competing for a part. 2019 01:34:35,412 --> 01:34:37,000 It gets messy. 2020 01:34:42,895 --> 01:34:45,631 An actress named Samantha commits herself to a psych ward. 2021 01:34:45,654 --> 01:34:47,423 She's trying to, like, be the part. 2022 01:34:47,448 --> 01:34:49,423 And then the director fucking leaves her there 2023 01:34:49,448 --> 01:34:52,389 and goes to a mansion to hang out with five other 2024 01:34:52,412 --> 01:34:54,010 younger, hotter actresses, 2025 01:34:54,033 --> 01:34:57,136 while a killer in a hag mask goes after them. 2026 01:34:59,378 --> 01:35:01,734 It has these "What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?" vibes, 2027 01:35:01,757 --> 01:35:03,699 just because there is that element in the beginning 2028 01:35:03,724 --> 01:35:06,837 of the older actress who gets left in a psych ward, 2029 01:35:06,862 --> 01:35:09,457 and has to escape to get revenge. 2030 01:35:09,481 --> 01:35:11,310 What are you gonna do now? 2031 01:35:13,033 --> 01:35:14,561 What I love about the film 2032 01:35:14,586 --> 01:35:17,078 is it knows that Striker, the director, is a creep. 2033 01:35:17,103 --> 01:35:18,103 Now seduce me. 2034 01:35:19,481 --> 01:35:20,481 No words. 2035 01:35:21,757 --> 01:35:23,078 You can make sounds if you like. 2036 01:35:23,103 --> 01:35:24,769 The horror in "Curtains" for me 2037 01:35:24,792 --> 01:35:28,457 is the way that Jonathan Striker treats the women. 2038 01:35:28,481 --> 01:35:31,286 He forces two women to seduce each other, 2039 01:35:31,310 --> 01:35:33,734 and she's topless, and you can just tell 2040 01:35:33,757 --> 01:35:35,354 the women are not into it, 2041 01:35:35,378 --> 01:35:38,251 but they just do it because it's requested of them. 2042 01:35:38,274 --> 01:35:41,975 He preys on them, ends up sleeping with them. 2043 01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:46,010 Almost like an allegory on the industry. 2044 01:35:46,033 --> 01:35:49,975 And there's that great scene in the frozen pond, 2045 01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,595 where the one actress is skating away from the killer 2046 01:35:53,619 --> 01:35:55,181 with this doll in her hand, 2047 01:35:55,206 --> 01:35:56,872 and the killer's got the mask on 2048 01:35:56,895 --> 01:36:00,033 with this side, like raises it, 2049 01:36:03,654 --> 01:36:06,423 Fucking insane, and it's all in slow-mo, 2050 01:36:06,448 --> 01:36:09,136 and it's the weirdest mask you've ever seen. 2051 01:36:10,654 --> 01:36:14,310 You don't know if it's a woman or not. 2052 01:36:18,724 --> 01:36:20,181 It makes you fear the daylight, 2053 01:36:20,206 --> 01:36:23,286 and the emptiness in what can happen when you're alone 2054 01:36:23,310 --> 01:36:25,769 in a seemingly safe space. 2055 01:36:25,792 --> 01:36:29,043 Originally, they wanted to create a banshee creature, 2056 01:36:29,068 --> 01:36:31,103 but they didn't move forward with it. 2057 01:36:33,448 --> 01:36:37,802 "Curtains" has a very interesting kind of tone. 2058 01:36:37,827 --> 01:36:39,561 That's because it was actually directed 2059 01:36:39,586 --> 01:36:41,043 by two different people. 2060 01:36:41,068 --> 01:36:44,837 It feels almost very slow, and very mood building, 2061 01:36:44,862 --> 01:36:47,699 and then in some scenes, it's very slash 'em up, 2062 01:36:47,724 --> 01:36:51,206 and darkly lit, that it feels like an art house slasher. 2063 01:36:56,068 --> 01:36:58,181 "Curtains" is for people who like dolls 2064 01:36:58,206 --> 01:37:00,802 and ice skating, and old witch masks. 2065 01:37:00,827 --> 01:37:02,216 That has me written all over it. 2066 01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:03,586 So I'm sold. 2067 01:37:15,206 --> 01:37:16,734 "Hell of the Living Dead". 2068 01:37:16,757 --> 01:37:19,699 Also known as "Night of the Zombies", 2069 01:37:19,724 --> 01:37:21,631 originally titled "Virus". 2070 01:37:21,654 --> 01:37:24,136 But known in England as "Zombie Creeping Flesh". 2071 01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:29,975 This is the VHS tape, and a perfect example 2072 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:33,457 of the lurid artwork that I would see 2073 01:37:33,481 --> 01:37:35,631 on the shelves of a video shop 2074 01:37:35,654 --> 01:37:37,481 and think that movie is for me. 2075 01:37:40,274 --> 01:37:41,837 There's a lab in Papua New Guinea 2076 01:37:41,862 --> 01:37:44,561 that has a chemical that accidentally gets released 2077 01:37:44,586 --> 01:37:47,516 that turns pretty much everybody into zombies. 2078 01:37:49,586 --> 01:37:50,802 And you follow this group of people 2079 01:37:50,827 --> 01:37:52,078 that travel around the globe 2080 01:37:52,103 --> 01:37:54,171 trying to stop this grand conspiracy. 2081 01:37:55,103 --> 01:37:57,000 Or maybe you just get eaten. 2082 01:37:58,448 --> 01:38:00,448 This is an Italian film that was dubbed in English. 2083 01:38:01,378 --> 01:38:02,975 It was directed by Bruno Mattei, 2084 01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,043 under the pseudonym Vincent Dawn. 2085 01:38:05,068 --> 01:38:06,354 If you're familiar with his work, 2086 01:38:06,378 --> 01:38:08,907 you know the dubbing is pretty terrible, 2087 01:38:08,930 --> 01:38:10,975 but that just adds to the awesomeness of it. 2088 01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:12,493 And we liked each other. 2089 01:38:12,516 --> 01:38:14,078 We'd be in the sack together by now. 2090 01:38:14,103 --> 01:38:15,354 That's your opinion. 2091 01:38:15,378 --> 01:38:18,344 Bruno Mattei was the copycat of Lucio Fulci. 2092 01:38:19,757 --> 01:38:22,319 "Hell of the Living Dead" came about in the wake 2093 01:38:22,344 --> 01:38:24,631 of the success of Fulci's "Zombie", 2094 01:38:24,654 --> 01:38:28,664 so essentially he was making an Italian zombie movie 2095 01:38:28,689 --> 01:38:30,113 which was shot in Spain, 2096 01:38:30,136 --> 01:38:32,975 but using the tropes that Fulci had come up with 2097 01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,724 on the back of ripping off George Romero. 2098 01:38:39,827 --> 01:38:43,561 Set to the scores of Goblin, 2099 01:38:43,586 --> 01:38:46,595 but none of the score was actually scored for this movie. 2100 01:38:46,619 --> 01:38:49,286 They used the soundtrack from "Contamination" 2101 01:38:49,310 --> 01:38:51,251 and "Dawn of the Dead" by Goblin, 2102 01:38:51,274 --> 01:38:54,206 and scored this movie with those scores. 2103 01:38:55,344 --> 01:38:56,149 Father. 2104 01:38:56,172 --> 01:38:57,493 Father. 2105 01:38:57,516 --> 01:38:58,619 What's wrong with you? 2106 01:39:02,033 --> 01:39:03,664 When the pandemic hit really hard, 2107 01:39:03,689 --> 01:39:05,802 of course I couldn't stop making movies. 2108 01:39:05,827 --> 01:39:08,493 The idea of "Corona Zombies" was these ditzy girls, 2109 01:39:08,516 --> 01:39:12,010 they turn a movie on that was the footage 2110 01:39:12,033 --> 01:39:13,872 from "Hell of the Living Dead", with all this 2111 01:39:13,895 --> 01:39:15,631 very funny clever new dialogue. 2112 01:39:15,654 --> 01:39:17,389 We have just received shocking video 2113 01:39:17,412 --> 01:39:20,354 of what is believed to be ground zero of the virus. 2114 01:39:20,378 --> 01:39:22,792 It was much like "What's Up Tiger Lily?" 2115 01:39:23,930 --> 01:39:26,907 Is that one of the corona zombies? 2116 01:39:26,930 --> 01:39:28,148 Shh. 2117 01:39:28,171 --> 01:39:29,561 "Hell of the Living Dead", it's very ahead 2118 01:39:29,586 --> 01:39:31,699 of its time, and it's very much against 2119 01:39:31,724 --> 01:39:35,251 man infecting the earth with pollution. 2120 01:39:35,274 --> 01:39:37,181 And that is what's causing the outbreak. 2121 01:39:37,206 --> 01:39:41,286 But it's also full of Fulci-esque rotting zombies 2122 01:39:41,310 --> 01:39:42,802 and gore and splatter, 2123 01:39:42,827 --> 01:39:44,010 and eyes being poked out, 2124 01:39:44,033 --> 01:39:46,000 and guts being poked out. 2125 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,113 This movie is entirely enjoyable 2126 01:39:50,136 --> 01:39:51,251 from beginning to end. 2127 01:39:51,274 --> 01:39:53,769 It was the first example where I realized 2128 01:39:53,792 --> 01:39:56,240 that the Video Nasties panic was nonsense. 2129 01:40:11,689 --> 01:40:13,068 Father help me. 2130 01:40:15,103 --> 01:40:17,699 "Possession" is a film about a couple 2131 01:40:17,724 --> 01:40:20,975 whose marriage is deteriorating fast. 2132 01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,802 What do you expect of me? 2133 01:40:22,827 --> 01:40:24,000 Look what you're doing! 2134 01:40:26,792 --> 01:40:29,699 Mark and Anna, you can see that they are 2135 01:40:29,724 --> 01:40:31,527 extremely unhappy with each other. 2136 01:40:31,551 --> 01:40:33,251 They're screaming at each other. 2137 01:40:33,274 --> 01:40:36,344 Isabelle Adjani is incredible. 2138 01:40:41,103 --> 01:40:43,654 But especially in the subway scene. 2139 01:40:48,378 --> 01:40:49,802 And it's so disturbing. 2140 01:40:49,827 --> 01:40:51,251 One of the most effective scenes 2141 01:40:51,274 --> 01:40:55,068 of showing somebody just completely losing themselves. 2142 01:41:00,274 --> 01:41:02,527 Sam Neill as Mark in this film 2143 01:41:02,551 --> 01:41:04,757 is a very anxious character. 2144 01:41:08,619 --> 01:41:10,837 Cinematography really communicates 2145 01:41:10,862 --> 01:41:12,561 his inner feelings. 2146 01:41:12,586 --> 01:41:14,940 He's also very paranoid about Anna. 2147 01:41:14,965 --> 01:41:16,561 Their whole relationship together 2148 01:41:16,586 --> 01:41:18,792 is extremely hard to watch. 2149 01:41:19,862 --> 01:41:21,240 You know what this is for? 2150 01:41:22,206 --> 01:41:23,631 The lies! 2151 01:41:23,654 --> 01:41:26,423 Then you have to add much more. 2152 01:41:26,448 --> 01:41:30,136 They're very codependent, and very bad for each other. 2153 01:41:35,344 --> 01:41:37,975 The dramatic elements are really what drives the movie, 2154 01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:41,033 but then you have, it turns into this creature feature. 2155 01:41:43,412 --> 01:41:44,355 My god. 2156 01:41:44,380 --> 01:41:46,378 He made love to me all night. 2157 01:41:47,862 --> 01:41:51,078 She actually in this movie has sex with this monster, 2158 01:41:51,103 --> 01:41:52,907 which was created by Carlo Rambaldi, 2159 01:41:52,930 --> 01:41:54,699 who most people know is the person 2160 01:41:54,724 --> 01:41:57,171 who created E.T. for Steven Spielberg. 2161 01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:59,802 I can't believe that they talked her 2162 01:41:59,827 --> 01:42:01,181 into doing that entire scene. 2163 01:42:01,206 --> 01:42:04,412 And it looks so realistic. 2164 01:42:07,274 --> 01:42:11,319 "Possession" is the epitome of relationship horror. 2165 01:42:11,344 --> 01:42:13,699 That feeling of how it is to all out of love 2166 01:42:13,724 --> 01:42:15,251 with someone you care about. 2167 01:42:15,274 --> 01:42:19,010 Those moments of desperation and loss 2168 01:42:19,033 --> 01:42:20,930 are so heartbreaking. 2169 01:42:23,965 --> 01:42:25,975 It's a lot to take in. 2170 01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,837 It's waiting to see who will die first. 2171 01:42:28,862 --> 01:42:31,769 That is a movie that deserved all the Oscar love, 2172 01:42:31,792 --> 01:42:33,561 because it really took a lot of risks, 2173 01:42:33,586 --> 01:42:35,930 but it did a lot of profound things as well. 2174 01:42:51,895 --> 01:42:56,078 "Devil Fetus" was made by a bunch of first time filmmakers 2175 01:42:56,103 --> 01:42:59,699 that got a hold of themselves some iconic actors. 2176 01:42:59,724 --> 01:43:00,802 And it's crazy. 2177 01:43:00,827 --> 01:43:02,895 The special effects are insane. 2178 01:43:05,827 --> 01:43:07,802 A woman buys a vase. 2179 01:43:07,827 --> 01:43:09,792 The vase has a demon. 2180 01:43:12,895 --> 01:43:14,527 He crawls out, and he has sex with her 2181 01:43:14,551 --> 01:43:15,734 and impregnates her. 2182 01:43:15,757 --> 01:43:18,561 And that's the devil fetus title. 2183 01:43:18,586 --> 01:43:22,068 Everybody dies around her in miraculous ways. 2184 01:43:24,412 --> 01:43:26,561 That antique shop has a lot to answer for. 2185 01:43:26,586 --> 01:43:28,240 Like, I hope she kept the receipt. 2186 01:43:29,171 --> 01:43:31,240 It's a very weird movie. 2187 01:43:36,827 --> 01:43:38,561 What is cool about it is these special effects, 2188 01:43:38,586 --> 01:43:41,000 and it has so much 80s charm. 2189 01:43:46,930 --> 01:43:50,631 You have this animated thunder and lightning 2190 01:43:50,654 --> 01:43:52,148 coming out of people's hands, 2191 01:43:52,171 --> 01:43:55,136 you have them flying across things, and floating heads. 2192 01:43:59,551 --> 01:44:02,423 The martial arts in this is incredible, actually. 2193 01:44:02,448 --> 01:44:04,516 That's one of the biggest selling points. 2194 01:44:07,103 --> 01:44:08,286 There's all kinds of things happening 2195 01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:10,481 in this movie that's hard to explain. 2196 01:44:16,862 --> 01:44:18,664 To us it might seem like a fever dream, 2197 01:44:18,689 --> 01:44:21,769 but to the people who were involved in the culture, 2198 01:44:21,792 --> 01:44:24,240 they may know all of these things from childhood. 2199 01:44:27,757 --> 01:44:29,595 Very few category three films were cut, 2200 01:44:29,619 --> 01:44:30,965 and this one was. 2201 01:44:32,344 --> 01:44:34,181 It has to deal with gore and the assault 2202 01:44:34,206 --> 01:44:36,251 that happens in the film. 2203 01:44:36,274 --> 01:44:38,319 Cat three goes to 11. 2204 01:44:38,344 --> 01:44:39,493 You know? 2205 01:44:39,516 --> 01:44:41,837 It's a little bit higher than 10 and NC-17, 2206 01:44:41,862 --> 01:44:43,319 but it's not quite X. 2207 01:44:43,344 --> 01:44:46,000 Which, X-rated films were rated Cat three as well. 2208 01:44:48,481 --> 01:44:49,699 You think the film's going this way, 2209 01:44:49,724 --> 01:44:50,975 and then it goes in a different direction. 2210 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,171 That's what's unique about "Devil Fetus". 2211 01:44:58,481 --> 01:45:02,010 It has the most epic last five minutes 2212 01:45:02,033 --> 01:45:04,136 of any movie you'll ever see. 2213 01:45:19,689 --> 01:45:21,319 "Eyes of Fire". 2214 01:45:21,344 --> 01:45:24,010 The secret is sleeping in the trees. 2215 01:45:24,033 --> 01:45:25,148 "Eyes of Fire" is a weird one, 2216 01:45:25,171 --> 01:45:26,837 because it's set in the 1700s, 2217 01:45:26,862 --> 01:45:30,389 and it concerns a preacher who is accused of adultery, 2218 01:45:30,412 --> 01:45:32,181 and is banished from town. 2219 01:45:32,206 --> 01:45:33,631 And he and his family find themselves 2220 01:45:33,654 --> 01:45:37,216 in the woods beset by spirits of Native Americans. 2221 01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:40,319 God damn them! 2222 01:45:40,344 --> 01:45:44,043 "Eyes of Fire" is an American folk horror movie. 2223 01:45:44,068 --> 01:45:47,000 This valley is where the lost blood gathers. 2224 01:45:48,481 --> 01:45:49,862 It's the home of the devil. 2225 01:45:51,068 --> 01:45:51,976 If you believe in it. 2226 01:45:52,001 --> 01:45:53,251 This film is entirely unique, 2227 01:45:53,274 --> 01:45:56,561 shot by a photographer called Avery Crounse. 2228 01:45:56,586 --> 01:45:59,043 I don't believe he'd made a feature film before this, 2229 01:45:59,068 --> 01:46:00,872 and he's only made a couple since. 2230 01:46:00,895 --> 01:46:03,631 It is a very photogenic folk horror movie 2231 01:46:03,654 --> 01:46:05,240 shot in the woods. 2232 01:46:10,654 --> 01:46:13,216 As opposed to the meat and potato slasher stuff 2233 01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:15,802 of the 80s, there's a lot of surreal imagery, 2234 01:46:15,827 --> 01:46:18,457 and surreal moments, faces in trees, 2235 01:46:18,481 --> 01:46:20,907 just weird hallucinogenic moments 2236 01:46:20,930 --> 01:46:23,078 that don't feel of a piece with the 80s, necessarily, 2237 01:46:23,103 --> 01:46:25,136 which in itself makes it exciting. 2238 01:46:29,310 --> 01:46:31,930 This is what makes it really unique and stick out. 2239 01:46:38,895 --> 01:46:40,113 Folk horror is a very broad subgenre, 2240 01:46:40,136 --> 01:46:42,769 but it had a real moment in the 60s and 70s, 2241 01:46:42,792 --> 01:46:44,837 and was primarily a British thing, 2242 01:46:44,862 --> 01:46:47,251 so the fact that you're seeing a folk horror film, 2243 01:46:47,274 --> 01:46:50,113 A, in the 80s, and B, set in America, 2244 01:46:50,136 --> 01:46:51,595 was a bit unusual. 2245 01:46:51,619 --> 01:46:54,975 It was independently produced by Avery Crounse. 2246 01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:56,389 He basically moved on. 2247 01:46:56,412 --> 01:46:59,344 He didn't particularly connect with the film industry. 2248 01:47:00,586 --> 01:47:02,493 We went to great effort to find him 2249 01:47:02,516 --> 01:47:04,113 so that we could include "Eyes of Fire" 2250 01:47:04,136 --> 01:47:06,975 in our All the Haunts Be Ours folk horror box set. 2251 01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:09,423 He basically still owned the movie. 2252 01:47:09,448 --> 01:47:12,043 He had the negative in a storage unit, 2253 01:47:12,068 --> 01:47:14,493 and it had been sitting there since the 80s, basically. 2254 01:47:14,516 --> 01:47:16,551 Had not been scanned since. 2255 01:47:17,724 --> 01:47:19,068 I can see again. 2256 01:47:21,136 --> 01:47:24,043 He sent it here so that we could scan it here 2257 01:47:24,068 --> 01:47:27,216 at Severin office, and he even had a previous version 2258 01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:29,457 called "Crying Blue Sky", which was longer, 2259 01:47:29,481 --> 01:47:32,148 and we were able to scan that and include that as well. 2260 01:47:32,171 --> 01:47:34,251 So the reason it had been out of distribution 2261 01:47:34,274 --> 01:47:36,595 was just because he was out of the business 2262 01:47:36,619 --> 01:47:39,448 and had not been traceable since. 2263 01:47:42,171 --> 01:47:43,389 Don't worry, my child. 2264 01:47:43,412 --> 01:47:45,792 Luckily we were able to get it. 2265 01:47:59,516 --> 01:48:00,354 "Boarding House". 2266 01:48:00,378 --> 01:48:01,378 Rated R. 2267 01:48:02,551 --> 01:48:05,000 "Boarding House". 2268 01:48:11,033 --> 01:48:12,457 It was a movie that didn't do well 2269 01:48:12,481 --> 01:48:15,527 that has gained a cult following through the years. 2270 01:48:15,551 --> 01:48:19,148 John Wintergate, and his wife Kalassu, 2271 01:48:19,171 --> 01:48:20,975 I believe they're a little drunk, 2272 01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,457 and they watched a horror film at home, 2273 01:48:23,481 --> 01:48:25,113 and they both have the idea 2274 01:48:25,136 --> 01:48:27,068 of we can do that. 2275 01:48:31,274 --> 01:48:34,113 An interview John Wintergate was watching 2276 01:48:34,136 --> 01:48:38,389 where George Lucas stated that video is the future. 2277 01:48:38,412 --> 01:48:41,734 He got this idea it was easy to make a movie on video. 2278 01:48:41,757 --> 01:48:44,010 You buy a video camera for a few hundred dollars, 2279 01:48:44,033 --> 01:48:46,561 and you buy some blank tapes, and you shoot a movie. 2280 01:48:46,586 --> 01:48:48,010 What is that? 2281 01:48:48,033 --> 01:48:48,872 It's apple juice. 2282 01:48:48,895 --> 01:48:49,804 Oh my god. 2283 01:48:49,828 --> 01:48:50,975 You didn't have to say that. 2284 01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:52,664 They decided to make a horror comedy. 2285 01:48:52,689 --> 01:48:56,206 They made the first big shot on video movie. 2286 01:49:00,206 --> 01:49:01,354 But Wintergate and Kalassu 2287 01:49:01,378 --> 01:49:03,389 wrote, directed, starred in this film, 2288 01:49:03,412 --> 01:49:04,769 did the music for it as well. 2289 01:49:04,792 --> 01:49:06,206 They were both musicians. 2290 01:49:08,378 --> 01:49:10,769 The husband and wife, making something different. 2291 01:49:10,792 --> 01:49:12,423 When people watch the movie, it's like wow, 2292 01:49:12,448 --> 01:49:13,631 this movie's crazy. 2293 01:49:13,654 --> 01:49:14,872 It's doing all these sorts of things 2294 01:49:14,895 --> 01:49:15,804 that don't relate to one another. 2295 01:49:15,828 --> 01:49:17,251 I'm preparing the Thorazine 2296 01:49:17,274 --> 01:49:19,423 for Mr. Ratchet's shock therapy. 2297 01:49:19,448 --> 01:49:20,907 Well, that's 'cause it's heavily cut, 2298 01:49:20,930 --> 01:49:22,457 and that horror comedy ended up being 2299 01:49:22,481 --> 01:49:24,043 two hours and 30 minutes long. 2300 01:49:24,068 --> 01:49:26,378 The distributors did not like that. 2301 01:49:31,930 --> 01:49:33,975 They told to recut the movie into what we got 2302 01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:35,699 with "Boarding House", which is an hour and a half 2303 01:49:35,724 --> 01:49:38,000 of a crazy, bizarre movie. 2304 01:49:40,344 --> 01:49:42,837 They cut out all the comedy in the movie, 2305 01:49:42,862 --> 01:49:45,699 and tried to cut it as a serious horror film. 2306 01:49:45,724 --> 01:49:48,631 I think that explains a lot of the weirdness 2307 01:49:48,654 --> 01:49:49,802 in "Boarding House". 2308 01:49:49,827 --> 01:49:51,930 Watch. 2309 01:49:55,551 --> 01:49:58,664 This was the first, and probably only, 2310 01:49:58,689 --> 01:50:00,631 wide release of a shot on video movie 2311 01:50:00,654 --> 01:50:01,907 to screen and theaters, 2312 01:50:01,930 --> 01:50:03,907 because he blew up 35 millimeter prints, 2313 01:50:03,930 --> 01:50:06,171 which was very costly. 2314 01:50:09,586 --> 01:50:11,975 "Blood Cult" is sometimes considered 2315 01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:15,493 the first shot on video film, but it is not. 2316 01:50:15,516 --> 01:50:18,769 "Blood Cult" was the first shot on video movie 2317 01:50:18,792 --> 01:50:21,216 made for the video market on home video. 2318 01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:22,664 "Blood Cult". 2319 01:50:22,689 --> 01:50:25,516 The first movie made especially for the home video market. 2320 01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:30,619 "Boarding House" paved the way for shot on video. 2321 01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,837 Filmmakers took notice that you could buy a video camera, 2322 01:50:38,862 --> 01:50:41,561 or borrow your parents', because they probably have one, 2323 01:50:41,586 --> 01:50:43,769 and then start shooting movies with your friends. 2324 01:50:43,792 --> 01:50:46,595 That kick started the shot on video boom. 2325 01:50:46,619 --> 01:50:48,734 You are trespassing. 2326 01:50:48,757 --> 01:50:53,654 This is my house! 2327 01:51:03,378 --> 01:51:04,940 Throughout the 80s, Asia were making 2328 01:51:04,965 --> 01:51:06,975 all of these horror films that didn't really get 2329 01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:09,389 much seen across the world, 2330 01:51:09,412 --> 01:51:11,802 but they were producing some incredible stuff, 2331 01:51:11,827 --> 01:51:13,344 from interesting places. 2332 01:51:16,551 --> 01:51:19,078 I grew up in a half Asian household. 2333 01:51:19,103 --> 01:51:21,286 My mum is from Philippines. 2334 01:51:21,310 --> 01:51:24,595 She made sure I was aware that monsters 2335 01:51:24,619 --> 01:51:27,206 and ghosts and creatures are real. 2336 01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:35,481 Asian horror just really gets under your skin. 2337 01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,734 The first time I was exposed to Asian horror movies 2338 01:51:40,757 --> 01:51:45,216 was when the whole boom came with "The Ring", "Ju-on". 2339 01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:46,493 "The Grudge". 2340 01:51:46,516 --> 01:51:48,595 That opened a whole new world for me. 2341 01:51:48,619 --> 01:51:52,206 I just thought, okay this is the stuff of my nightmares. 2342 01:51:59,344 --> 01:52:04,113 I think that Japanese people don't care as much 2343 01:52:04,136 --> 01:52:05,975 in the realism. 2344 01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,286 It's more deep symbolism, 2345 01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:12,975 and much more thought out inner mental things, 2346 01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,965 rather than just the coherent storytelling. 2347 01:52:16,965 --> 01:52:18,965 That is more important to me. 2348 01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,423 Their points of reference for what's scary 2349 01:52:24,448 --> 01:52:25,940 are often very different. 2350 01:52:25,965 --> 01:52:27,493 A lot of western horror, there's a Judeo-Christian 2351 01:52:27,516 --> 01:52:29,516 sort of root to it. 2352 01:52:30,757 --> 01:52:33,699 And their fears and their preoccupations, 2353 01:52:33,724 --> 01:52:36,010 and their boogeymen come from a different place. 2354 01:52:36,033 --> 01:52:38,078 And it's exciting to see that cultural difference, 2355 01:52:38,103 --> 01:52:40,493 exciting to see what scares people 2356 01:52:40,516 --> 01:52:41,965 in a culture that's not your own. 2357 01:52:43,792 --> 01:52:45,769 I was very attracted to the Asian flow 2358 01:52:45,792 --> 01:52:50,493 of movies coming in that are about dream scapes, 2359 01:52:50,516 --> 01:52:53,286 that are about ghosts, anything like that, 2360 01:52:53,310 --> 01:52:56,493 that gets me off in a way that is both scary 2361 01:52:56,516 --> 01:52:59,103 and not as uncomfortable as seeing a lot of blood. 2362 01:53:01,689 --> 01:53:03,664 My favorite Japanese horror movie from the 80s 2363 01:53:03,689 --> 01:53:07,527 by far is "Sweet Home" because it's so, so, so nuts. 2364 01:53:07,551 --> 01:53:10,043 At the same time, Capcom released a game version, 2365 01:53:10,068 --> 01:53:12,940 which is almost better than the actual film. 2366 01:53:12,965 --> 01:53:16,354 It's also the influence for "Resident Evil" as well. 2367 01:53:16,378 --> 01:53:18,527 "Resident Evil". 2368 01:53:18,551 --> 01:53:21,699 So Kiyoshi Kurosawa, he's the director of "Sweet Home". 2369 01:53:21,724 --> 01:53:23,423 And he went on to do some of the best 2370 01:53:23,448 --> 01:53:26,251 Japanese horror movies of the late 90s 2371 01:53:26,274 --> 01:53:27,802 and early 2000s. 2372 01:53:27,827 --> 01:53:29,631 If it wasn't for him leading the way 2373 01:53:29,654 --> 01:53:31,975 making Japanese movies that could potentially appeal 2374 01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:34,113 to a Western audience, you wouldn't have had 2375 01:53:34,136 --> 01:53:36,103 this J-horror explosion. 2376 01:53:39,378 --> 01:53:40,664 When you mention 80s Asian horror, 2377 01:53:40,689 --> 01:53:42,975 a lot of people think of "House" from Japan, 2378 01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:45,586 although that one's from 1977. 2379 01:53:49,344 --> 01:53:50,872 If you watch Japanese horror, 2380 01:53:50,895 --> 01:53:53,389 if you watch something from Thailand, 2381 01:53:53,412 --> 01:53:55,043 if you watch something from South Korea, 2382 01:53:55,068 --> 01:53:57,078 you're going to get a different experience 2383 01:53:57,103 --> 01:53:58,354 from each of those. 2384 01:53:58,378 --> 01:54:00,561 South Korea's horror movement that happened 2385 01:54:00,586 --> 01:54:04,136 just after J-horror explosion has been incredible. 2386 01:54:07,171 --> 01:54:09,940 South Korea, Indonesia, and the Philippines 2387 01:54:09,965 --> 01:54:12,631 kind of came into their own regarding horror 2388 01:54:12,654 --> 01:54:14,216 a little bit later. 2389 01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:16,802 In terms of horror that's commercially viable 2390 01:54:16,827 --> 01:54:18,310 in the Western world. 2391 01:54:21,619 --> 01:54:23,837 In the Philippines, there's actually a lot of horror. 2392 01:54:23,862 --> 01:54:27,940 It's very sad that I can not count on one hand 2393 01:54:27,965 --> 01:54:29,940 how many cross over to America. 2394 01:54:29,965 --> 01:54:32,148 One of the best places for Asian horror, 2395 01:54:32,171 --> 01:54:34,862 especially out of the 80s, was China. 2396 01:54:37,378 --> 01:54:39,975 A lot of it was based on the mythology. 2397 01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:43,354 We see demons, vampires, ghosts, poltergeists, 2398 01:54:43,378 --> 01:54:46,310 a lot of witches, a lot of wizards as well. 2399 01:54:49,412 --> 01:54:51,493 Some movies you should definitely check out 2400 01:54:51,516 --> 01:54:54,286 are "Kung Fu Zombie", "Human Lanterns", 2401 01:54:54,310 --> 01:54:57,113 "Seeding of a Ghost", and "Witch from Nepal" 2402 01:54:57,136 --> 01:54:58,757 with Chow Yun-Fat. 2403 01:55:03,171 --> 01:55:05,389 We know the Shaw Brothers and Golden Harvest 2404 01:55:05,412 --> 01:55:08,457 as the purveyors of incredible martial arts movies, 2405 01:55:08,481 --> 01:55:12,862 but they also dip their toe in a lot of horror as well. 2406 01:55:16,930 --> 01:55:18,043 Asian horror cinema, 2407 01:55:18,068 --> 01:55:19,895 I like vampire movies for that. 2408 01:55:22,274 --> 01:55:26,274 Scary things that there is a story of how they got scary. 2409 01:55:29,619 --> 01:55:30,907 The way they present their monsters 2410 01:55:30,930 --> 01:55:33,286 is just so fundamentally different 2411 01:55:33,310 --> 01:55:36,769 than how the Western stereotype of a vampire 2412 01:55:36,792 --> 01:55:39,000 is just completely blown up in an Asian film. 2413 01:55:40,448 --> 01:55:43,423 I'm completely obsessed by the "Mr. Vampire" movies. 2414 01:55:43,448 --> 01:55:46,802 I'd never seen Jiangshi vampires before. 2415 01:55:46,827 --> 01:55:50,113 I was mesmerized by how comedic they were. 2416 01:55:50,136 --> 01:55:51,378 They hop. 2417 01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:56,631 When you watch "Mr. Vampire", 2418 01:55:56,654 --> 01:55:58,527 you see why people are scared of them, 2419 01:55:58,551 --> 01:56:00,181 because they are relentless, 2420 01:56:00,206 --> 01:56:01,975 and you have to know all of the tricks 2421 01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:03,000 in order to defeat them. 2422 01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,586 "The Jitters" is an unusual film. 2423 01:56:12,757 --> 01:56:15,389 Plus "The Jitters" was directed by John Fasano 2424 01:56:15,412 --> 01:56:16,664 and not a Chinese guy. 2425 01:56:16,689 --> 01:56:18,457 There's a little bit lost in translation. 2426 01:56:18,481 --> 01:56:20,837 It played fast and loose with Chinese mythology 2427 01:56:20,862 --> 01:56:21,862 quite a lot. 2428 01:56:22,862 --> 01:56:25,802 Someone thought that since they're so popular 2429 01:56:25,827 --> 01:56:28,423 over there, we'd make an American version 2430 01:56:28,448 --> 01:56:31,619 of these movies, and see how that does. 2431 01:56:32,448 --> 01:56:33,699 I got him! 2432 01:56:33,724 --> 01:56:35,148 I'm uncomfortable with the movie now, 2433 01:56:35,171 --> 01:56:39,481 because there's a lot of racial stereotypes in there, 2434 01:56:40,862 --> 01:56:43,078 at the time, I didn't really think was a big deal, 2435 01:56:43,103 --> 01:56:44,412 but it is. 2436 01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,043 Understanding horror explored through the lens 2437 01:56:53,068 --> 01:56:55,148 of other cultures, it's an important thing, 2438 01:56:55,171 --> 01:56:56,699 and it's a cool thing. 2439 01:56:56,724 --> 01:56:58,493 Different cultures have all these different kinds 2440 01:56:58,516 --> 01:57:00,769 of mythologies to draw from, 2441 01:57:00,792 --> 01:57:03,664 and there's just this endless well of stories 2442 01:57:03,689 --> 01:57:04,930 that we can build upon. 2443 01:57:06,619 --> 01:57:09,423 When you're talking about Asian horror now, 2444 01:57:09,448 --> 01:57:12,113 people are looking at it from a broader perspective 2445 01:57:12,136 --> 01:57:15,319 because they've been able to watch these movies. 2446 01:57:15,344 --> 01:57:18,734 Whereas in the 80s, a lot of them were available, 2447 01:57:18,757 --> 01:57:22,551 but they just never really made it outside of their markets. 2448 01:57:24,516 --> 01:57:26,148 Asian horror was somewhat inaccessible 2449 01:57:26,171 --> 01:57:27,389 to a lot of us in the 80s. 2450 01:57:27,412 --> 01:57:28,837 Video stores didn't carry a lot of it, 2451 01:57:28,862 --> 01:57:31,872 and it's only after J-horror came up after the fact 2452 01:57:31,895 --> 01:57:34,010 that then suddenly we're retroactively going back 2453 01:57:34,033 --> 01:57:35,837 into these catalogs and finding these titles 2454 01:57:35,862 --> 01:57:38,516 that were not on our radar in the 80s. 2455 01:57:41,136 --> 01:57:42,561 In a way that's kind of cool, 2456 01:57:42,586 --> 01:57:44,734 because then that's a bucket of 80s horror 2457 01:57:44,757 --> 01:57:47,000 that we can go back and look for now. 2458 01:58:00,895 --> 01:58:04,837 School was hell, but vacation was murder. 2459 01:58:04,862 --> 01:58:05,862 "The Mutilator". 2460 01:58:06,654 --> 01:58:07,872 "The Mutilator". 2461 01:58:07,895 --> 01:58:09,802 It was originally titled "Fall Break", 2462 01:58:09,827 --> 01:58:12,837 but the filmmakers apparently felt "The Mutilator" 2463 01:58:12,862 --> 01:58:15,389 was a much more user friendly title. 2464 01:58:15,412 --> 01:58:18,631 Four days of R and R at the beach. 2465 01:58:18,654 --> 01:58:19,458 I'm in. 2466 01:58:19,483 --> 01:58:20,631 Sounds good to me. 2467 01:58:20,654 --> 01:58:22,389 I got a bad feeling about this. 2468 01:58:22,412 --> 01:58:23,907 College kids on their fall break, 2469 01:58:23,930 --> 01:58:26,595 and they get picked off one by one. 2470 01:58:26,619 --> 01:58:31,551 I'm coming to get you! 2471 01:58:33,827 --> 01:58:37,010 By different use of power tools, 2472 01:58:37,033 --> 01:58:39,103 and home repair tools. 2473 01:58:41,310 --> 01:58:43,631 One of the friends, his dad hates him 2474 01:58:43,654 --> 01:58:46,103 because he blames him for the death of his mother. 2475 01:58:49,689 --> 01:58:52,078 Just like this angry dad who hates his son 2476 01:58:52,103 --> 01:58:54,757 and is gonna take it out on him and his friends. 2477 01:59:00,516 --> 01:59:02,078 "The Mutilator" is one of those that tries 2478 01:59:02,103 --> 01:59:04,975 to present as a comedy, but isn't sure it wants 2479 01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:06,664 to be a comedy, and you're not sure 2480 01:59:06,689 --> 01:59:08,940 if you're supposed to be laughing at a lot of it. 2481 01:59:08,965 --> 01:59:10,734 Looks like the party's over for this joker. 2482 01:59:10,757 --> 01:59:12,907 Oh. 2483 01:59:12,930 --> 01:59:14,078 Yeah. 2484 01:59:14,103 --> 01:59:15,769 My dad ran over him with a ski boat. 2485 01:59:15,792 --> 01:59:17,493 It's dancing to the beat of its own drum. 2486 01:59:17,516 --> 01:59:19,010 What's wrong with the water? 2487 01:59:19,033 --> 01:59:21,595 It looks like it's been loaded down with chlorine. 2488 01:59:21,619 --> 01:59:23,354 Will that hurt you? 2489 01:59:23,378 --> 01:59:25,595 No, in fact it probably prevents herpes. 2490 01:59:25,619 --> 01:59:28,286 The art for "The Mutilator" has this tagline 2491 01:59:28,310 --> 01:59:33,310 that says by sword, by pick, by ax, bye-bye. 2492 01:59:34,171 --> 01:59:36,286 Catchy title, catchy tagline, 2493 01:59:36,310 --> 01:59:38,103 and some eye-grabbing art. 2494 01:59:39,274 --> 01:59:42,010 The more extreme the exploitation level is, 2495 01:59:42,033 --> 01:59:43,907 the more likely a teen is gonna rent that. 2496 01:59:43,930 --> 01:59:45,586 And that's the idea. 2497 01:59:49,930 --> 01:59:51,043 And that's why we love these movies 2498 01:59:51,068 --> 01:59:52,481 so much to this day. 2499 02:00:05,895 --> 02:00:08,286 My first film in America, 2500 02:00:08,310 --> 02:00:11,389 which is absolutely adored doing, was "Maniac", 2501 02:00:11,412 --> 02:00:15,286 and I got to work with my lovely Joe Spinell again, 2502 02:00:15,310 --> 02:00:18,586 who I first met in "Star Crash". 2503 02:00:21,551 --> 02:00:23,907 People connect with Joe Spinell. 2504 02:00:23,930 --> 02:00:26,412 He is a compelling actor to watch. 2505 02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:29,457 I loved working with Joe because he was 2506 02:00:29,481 --> 02:00:33,619 such a brilliant actor, and a sweet, dear person. 2507 02:00:35,689 --> 02:00:38,907 "The Last Horror Film" is about New York cab driver 2508 02:00:38,930 --> 02:00:41,561 who's obsessed with Caroline Munroe, 2509 02:00:41,586 --> 02:00:43,907 and he follows her to the Cannes Film Festival 2510 02:00:43,930 --> 02:00:46,724 where a serial killer is on the loose. 2511 02:00:50,792 --> 02:00:52,527 It was called "The Last Horror Film", 2512 02:00:52,551 --> 02:00:54,862 and then they called it "Fanatic" after that. 2513 02:00:56,171 --> 02:00:59,113 This film was an unofficial followup to "Maniac". 2514 02:00:59,136 --> 02:01:00,354 I got talent, ma! 2515 02:01:00,378 --> 02:01:01,907 I'm gonna be a great director someday! 2516 02:01:01,930 --> 02:01:03,181 Don't yell at your mother! 2517 02:01:03,206 --> 02:01:04,975 It's great to see Joe Spinell 2518 02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:06,561 and Caroline Munroe together, 2519 02:01:06,586 --> 02:01:08,448 and I think the pairing is fantastic. 2520 02:01:09,551 --> 02:01:10,595 Who is it? 2521 02:01:10,619 --> 02:01:11,802 We were an odd couple. 2522 02:01:11,827 --> 02:01:13,181 We were, weren't we? 2523 02:01:13,206 --> 02:01:15,216 Jana Bates is going to star in my next movie. 2524 02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:16,149 It's all set. 2525 02:01:16,172 --> 02:01:17,561 I'm producing and directing. 2526 02:01:17,586 --> 02:01:19,769 Vinny, are you sure you're making a movie? 2527 02:01:19,792 --> 02:01:21,802 He was wonderful in that film. 2528 02:01:21,827 --> 02:01:24,251 Very quirky, very quirky. 2529 02:01:24,274 --> 02:01:27,595 And my character, she was spooked by Joe, 2530 02:01:27,619 --> 02:01:31,043 because Joe had an obsession for this actress, Jana Bates. 2531 02:01:31,068 --> 02:01:33,043 Who are you? 2532 02:01:33,068 --> 02:01:34,286 Get out. 2533 02:01:34,310 --> 02:01:35,389 I thought we'd just have a drink 2534 02:01:35,412 --> 02:01:36,561 and talk about the film. 2535 02:01:36,586 --> 02:01:38,354 You'll be absolutely perfect in it. 2536 02:01:38,378 --> 02:01:40,078 It was directed by David Winters, 2537 02:01:40,103 --> 02:01:41,595 who was in "West Side Story", 2538 02:01:41,619 --> 02:01:43,802 and sure enough, they just showed up in Cannes, 2539 02:01:43,827 --> 02:01:45,595 and started shooting this movie, 2540 02:01:45,619 --> 02:01:47,975 so there's a lot of run and gun footage 2541 02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:50,113 of the Cannes Film Festival. 2542 02:01:50,136 --> 02:01:51,769 One of the first guerrilla films 2543 02:01:51,792 --> 02:01:53,354 to be made there, for sure. 2544 02:01:53,378 --> 02:01:56,907 And I had to run along the crasette in a towel. 2545 02:01:56,930 --> 02:01:59,595 They were all lined up, real people, 2546 02:01:59,619 --> 02:02:02,975 to see Jack Nicholson, Leslie Caron, 2547 02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:04,734 go on the red carpet. 2548 02:02:04,757 --> 02:02:06,251 They said Caroline, you're just gonna have to run 2549 02:02:06,274 --> 02:02:07,493 along the red carpet. 2550 02:02:07,516 --> 02:02:09,010 I said what, I've got a towel on. 2551 02:02:09,033 --> 02:02:11,895 They said that's okay, just do your own thing. 2552 02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:15,148 Please! 2553 02:02:15,171 --> 02:02:16,975 Hot damn, that's Jana Bates! 2554 02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:19,940 "The Last Horror Film" is not as gory as "Maniac" 2555 02:02:19,965 --> 02:02:22,619 but it does have a good amount of kills in it. 2556 02:02:25,481 --> 02:02:27,481 There's a lot of meta elements. 2557 02:02:28,895 --> 02:02:30,769 There's one bit where Joe Spinell's in a cinema 2558 02:02:30,792 --> 02:02:32,872 watching a new horror movie, 2559 02:02:32,895 --> 02:02:34,493 and he actually is eating his popcorn, 2560 02:02:34,516 --> 02:02:35,664 and starts throwing up 2561 02:02:35,689 --> 02:02:38,000 because it's too gross, too disgusting. 2562 02:02:40,724 --> 02:02:42,181 It's questioning horror movies 2563 02:02:42,206 --> 02:02:44,493 because "Maniac" got a lot of backlash 2564 02:02:44,516 --> 02:02:46,664 because of how misogynistic it was. 2565 02:02:46,689 --> 02:02:49,734 Now tell us why you're such a failure, Vinny. 2566 02:02:49,757 --> 02:02:51,216 I'm a genius. 2567 02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:53,113 Jana Bates is going to star in my movie. 2568 02:02:53,136 --> 02:02:54,216 She loves me! 2569 02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:56,010 It's a very bizarre film. 2570 02:02:56,033 --> 02:02:58,631 So I would think the ultimate theme 2571 02:02:58,654 --> 02:03:00,940 for "The Last Horror Film" or "The Fanatic" 2572 02:03:00,965 --> 02:03:02,664 would have to be obsession. 2573 02:03:02,689 --> 02:03:03,493 Obsessive love. 2574 02:03:03,518 --> 02:03:04,769 He loved her. 2575 02:03:04,792 --> 02:03:07,561 Or he loved what he saw of her onscreen. 2576 02:03:07,586 --> 02:03:09,286 But he didn't know her. 2577 02:03:09,310 --> 02:03:11,149 Could you move your head a little to the right 2578 02:03:11,689 --> 02:03:12,862 in this space? 2579 02:03:14,792 --> 02:03:16,516 Perfect, just perfect. 2580 02:03:21,862 --> 02:03:23,043 I always think it's really interesting 2581 02:03:23,068 --> 02:03:25,975 when the protagonist of a horror film, 2582 02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:28,389 especially in this period, is a guy, 2583 02:03:28,412 --> 02:03:30,699 because usually we associate the 80s 2584 02:03:30,724 --> 02:03:35,136 as the time where final girls came into full force. 2585 02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:40,078 "Mutant". 2586 02:03:40,103 --> 02:03:41,493 "Mutant", originally released 2587 02:03:41,516 --> 02:03:43,734 as "Night Shadows" theatrically. 2588 02:03:43,757 --> 02:03:46,734 It turned up on VHS as "Mutant". 2589 02:03:46,757 --> 02:03:50,043 The two very capable leads are Wings Hauser 2590 02:03:50,068 --> 02:03:51,561 and Lee Montgomery. 2591 02:03:51,586 --> 02:03:54,216 Our car broke down and we just need a place to stay. 2592 02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:56,148 We'll be gone first thing in the morning, I promise. 2593 02:03:56,171 --> 02:03:58,423 They end up in a dead end town 2594 02:03:58,448 --> 02:04:00,619 because their car messed up. 2595 02:04:02,378 --> 02:04:03,699 They go to the local bar, 2596 02:04:03,724 --> 02:04:06,078 and instantly these locals beat them up, 2597 02:04:06,103 --> 02:04:07,354 rough them up. 2598 02:04:07,378 --> 02:04:08,895 Oh no! 2599 02:04:10,378 --> 02:04:12,975 They end up being patched up by the local doctor. 2600 02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:15,078 And they start to get their first inklings 2601 02:04:15,103 --> 02:04:16,631 that something is wrong in this town, 2602 02:04:16,654 --> 02:04:18,493 that people are going missing. 2603 02:04:18,516 --> 02:04:21,457 This is toxic waste infecting a small community 2604 02:04:21,481 --> 02:04:24,136 and turning them into zombies. 2605 02:04:25,378 --> 02:04:26,907 This mutation somehow causes 2606 02:04:26,930 --> 02:04:28,516 an increasing need for blood. 2607 02:04:30,481 --> 02:04:32,010 Just so many zombies. 2608 02:04:32,033 --> 02:04:33,654 They're all over the place. 2609 02:04:37,412 --> 02:04:39,586 It was obviously inspired by George Romero. 2610 02:04:42,344 --> 02:04:43,595 And you see this in a lot of films, 2611 02:04:43,619 --> 02:04:44,802 like "Return of the Living Dead", 2612 02:04:44,827 --> 02:04:46,319 and you see it in a lot of the Troma films. 2613 02:04:46,344 --> 02:04:48,827 Toxic waste was a big thing in the 80s. 2614 02:04:51,724 --> 02:04:53,975 I like my zombies to be serious. 2615 02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:56,043 They definitely got the vibe of what made 2616 02:04:56,068 --> 02:04:57,654 those movies so much fun. 2617 02:04:59,412 --> 02:05:00,940 No! 2618 02:05:00,965 --> 02:05:02,286 The effects are kind of hokey, 2619 02:05:02,310 --> 02:05:04,527 because when these zombies approach you, 2620 02:05:04,551 --> 02:05:06,802 and they touch you, which ultimately turns you 2621 02:05:06,827 --> 02:05:10,010 into a zombie, all this steam comes off you, 2622 02:05:10,033 --> 02:05:12,319 almost like they're pressing a shirt, 2623 02:05:12,344 --> 02:05:14,033 like a big life sized iron. 2624 02:05:18,136 --> 02:05:19,457 Jack? 2625 02:05:19,481 --> 02:05:20,907 But there's one real cool sequence 2626 02:05:20,930 --> 02:05:22,595 where you just know there's gonna be a zombie. 2627 02:05:22,619 --> 02:05:23,837 You just know it. 2628 02:05:23,862 --> 02:05:25,907 And then she slowly goes over to him, 2629 02:05:25,930 --> 02:05:28,206 slowly pulls out the covers. 2630 02:05:30,862 --> 02:05:34,240 These locals just inherently hate other people. 2631 02:05:37,310 --> 02:05:39,907 Some secrets should remain secret, 2632 02:05:39,930 --> 02:05:42,010 and the way you do that is by keeping 2633 02:05:42,033 --> 02:05:44,033 all the outsiders away. 2634 02:05:59,689 --> 02:06:02,907 "The New York Ripper" is a very violent giallo 2635 02:06:02,930 --> 02:06:05,664 made by Lucio Fulci after he'd already made 2636 02:06:05,689 --> 02:06:07,286 "Zombie Flesh Eaters", "The Beyond", 2637 02:06:07,310 --> 02:06:08,975 and "House by the Cemetery". 2638 02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:11,457 Fulci was kind of riding high at this point 2639 02:06:11,481 --> 02:06:12,664 in his career. 2640 02:06:12,689 --> 02:06:14,975 "Zombie" was a huge success internationally 2641 02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:17,872 by the standards of Italian exploitation movies. 2642 02:06:17,895 --> 02:06:20,551 He went on and decided to make a thriller. 2643 02:06:21,619 --> 02:06:23,792 About a ripper in New York. 2644 02:06:25,792 --> 02:06:28,527 During this time, a lot of Italian filmmakers 2645 02:06:28,551 --> 02:06:32,664 would come to the US and shoot establishing footage, 2646 02:06:32,689 --> 02:06:35,389 and that's all tied into how Italian filmmakers 2647 02:06:35,412 --> 02:06:38,551 were trying to make their films seem American. 2648 02:06:42,136 --> 02:06:44,664 The killer in the film has a Donald Duck 2649 02:06:44,689 --> 02:06:46,699 kind of quacking voice. 2650 02:06:46,724 --> 02:06:48,181 Said he called back. 2651 02:06:48,206 --> 02:06:49,895 Sounded just like a duck. 2652 02:06:52,171 --> 02:06:53,389 Like a duck? 2653 02:06:53,412 --> 02:06:55,354 Which adds to the element of the bizarre 2654 02:06:55,378 --> 02:06:58,181 of this movie, and I think it shows Fulci's 2655 02:06:58,206 --> 02:07:00,136 sense of humor as well. 2656 02:07:03,068 --> 02:07:05,181 There's a fair amount of sleaze in the movie 2657 02:07:05,206 --> 02:07:06,792 as well, and nudity. 2658 02:07:10,654 --> 02:07:13,251 There's a very famous sequence in the film 2659 02:07:13,274 --> 02:07:15,181 where an actress is tied to a bed, 2660 02:07:15,206 --> 02:07:17,181 and essentially gets razor bladed 2661 02:07:17,206 --> 02:07:18,975 in the eye and in the nipple, 2662 02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:22,251 and it's extremely graphic and close up, 2663 02:07:22,274 --> 02:07:24,457 but it has that ocular violence 2664 02:07:24,481 --> 02:07:26,216 that Fulci had become famous for, 2665 02:07:26,240 --> 02:07:28,907 and he was trying to outdo, it seems, 2666 02:07:28,930 --> 02:07:30,872 in every movie that he did. 2667 02:07:30,895 --> 02:07:32,699 It definitely pushed the boundaries 2668 02:07:32,724 --> 02:07:34,389 of what was acceptable. 2669 02:07:34,412 --> 02:07:36,664 This film made sure that in England, 2670 02:07:36,689 --> 02:07:38,148 if you were found with a copy, 2671 02:07:38,171 --> 02:07:39,631 you were definitely having it seized, 2672 02:07:39,654 --> 02:07:41,378 and you would probably be arrested. 2673 02:07:42,448 --> 02:07:43,425 Like a duck? 2674 02:07:43,448 --> 02:07:44,527 Quack, quack, quack. 2675 02:07:44,551 --> 02:07:45,792 Just like that. 2676 02:07:52,206 --> 02:07:53,586 "The Initiation". 2677 02:07:54,827 --> 02:07:56,216 The ceremony that will never die, 2678 02:07:56,240 --> 02:07:58,699 as long as new blood is pledged. 2679 02:07:58,724 --> 02:08:00,975 I rented that movie the very first time, 2680 02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:04,595 because I loved Daphne Zuniga in "Spaceballs", 2681 02:08:04,619 --> 02:08:06,457 and it was right when Melrose Place was hitting. 2682 02:08:06,481 --> 02:08:08,940 And we've got a girl in a sorority, 2683 02:08:08,965 --> 02:08:11,274 she's being hazed. 2684 02:08:13,757 --> 02:08:16,181 Her character, Kelly, is having these nightmares, 2685 02:08:16,206 --> 02:08:18,216 so she actually goes through a sleep study 2686 02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:19,423 trying to figure out the reason 2687 02:08:19,448 --> 02:08:20,664 behind her nightmares. 2688 02:08:20,689 --> 02:08:22,734 It's fairly common for the subconscious mind 2689 02:08:22,757 --> 02:08:25,493 to fictionalize certain emotional states. 2690 02:08:25,516 --> 02:08:27,699 There's a woman committing adultery 2691 02:08:27,724 --> 02:08:28,975 with another guy. 2692 02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:31,010 A little girl comes in and catches them, 2693 02:08:31,033 --> 02:08:32,940 starts stabbing the crap out of somebody, 2694 02:08:32,965 --> 02:08:34,802 and then the guy goes on fire, 2695 02:08:34,827 --> 02:08:37,078 and she can't remember what happens. 2696 02:08:37,103 --> 02:08:38,802 I was in a coma for three months, 2697 02:08:38,827 --> 02:08:40,664 and they kept me in this private hospital in Chicago. 2698 02:08:40,689 --> 02:08:42,181 When I came out of it, I had no memory. 2699 02:08:42,206 --> 02:08:44,457 Her father, who's played by Clu Gulager, 2700 02:08:44,481 --> 02:08:46,872 owns this big shopping building, 2701 02:08:46,895 --> 02:08:49,561 and she's tasked with breaking in 2702 02:08:49,586 --> 02:08:53,354 and stealing a night porter's outfits. 2703 02:08:53,378 --> 02:08:56,206 Course, a lot of bad things happen. 2704 02:09:02,412 --> 02:09:03,699 It is a movie that takes a little time 2705 02:09:03,724 --> 02:09:05,699 to get going, but once they get into that mall, 2706 02:09:05,724 --> 02:09:08,033 there's some really fun kills. 2707 02:09:12,378 --> 02:09:13,979 You're finding bodies all over the place 2708 02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:18,792 The security guard is a bummer. 2709 02:09:23,206 --> 02:09:25,802 There's so many wacky out there things in the 80s, 2710 02:09:25,827 --> 02:09:27,423 where I guess they just tried things 2711 02:09:27,448 --> 02:09:28,965 more than we do now. 2712 02:09:30,103 --> 02:09:32,136 You know, it takes some leaps and bounds. 2713 02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:37,734 Spoiler alert, there's a twist at the end. 2714 02:09:37,757 --> 02:09:38,757 Peter! 2715 02:09:39,757 --> 02:09:41,527 And you're left sitting there like, 2716 02:09:41,551 --> 02:09:43,930 wait, what is going on? 2717 02:09:45,792 --> 02:09:46,975 You have to rationalize it to yourself 2718 02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:48,595 so that you can move on and finish 2719 02:09:48,619 --> 02:09:49,837 the rest of the movie. 2720 02:09:49,862 --> 02:09:52,078 It's a total shock at the end. 2721 02:09:52,103 --> 02:09:53,423 I've never seen anything like that 2722 02:09:53,448 --> 02:09:54,664 before in my life. 2723 02:09:54,689 --> 02:09:56,078 The more I think about it, the more I think 2724 02:09:56,103 --> 02:09:57,895 they just wanted to blow our minds. 2725 02:10:03,412 --> 02:10:05,792 Scared the shit out of them! 2726 02:10:11,448 --> 02:10:14,113 The only reason that they would set horror movies 2727 02:10:14,136 --> 02:10:17,699 on holidays is that they had no marketing budget. 2728 02:10:17,724 --> 02:10:21,354 So it was a way to get attention from the press. 2729 02:10:21,378 --> 02:10:23,319 Most decisions made in the 80s 2730 02:10:23,344 --> 02:10:25,423 were strictly financial decisions. 2731 02:10:25,448 --> 02:10:27,010 A present from the people 2732 02:10:27,033 --> 02:10:29,286 who brought you "Friday the 13th" 2733 02:10:29,310 --> 02:10:32,344 now comes "Don't Open Till Christmas". 2734 02:10:33,965 --> 02:10:36,561 "Don't Open Till Christmas" is a real curio, 2735 02:10:36,586 --> 02:10:38,457 a slasher film set in the UK 2736 02:10:38,481 --> 02:10:41,078 about a killer who goes around 2737 02:10:41,103 --> 02:10:43,274 killing people in Santa suits. 2738 02:10:49,378 --> 02:10:50,975 It's almost like Fulci directed this. 2739 02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:52,527 It's so grimy and slimy, 2740 02:10:52,551 --> 02:10:54,769 and as soon as you step foot into an alley, 2741 02:10:54,792 --> 02:10:55,827 you're dead meat. 2742 02:10:59,171 --> 02:11:02,631 The reason for the serial killer killing Santa Claus 2743 02:11:02,654 --> 02:11:06,216 is obviously some trauma from when he was a kid. 2744 02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:08,699 And you see this in a flashback streaked dream, 2745 02:11:08,724 --> 02:11:10,493 and he's just been, for all these years, 2746 02:11:10,516 --> 02:11:13,654 hellbent on getting revenge on Santa. 2747 02:11:14,895 --> 02:11:17,493 The department store, you have this big, fat, 2748 02:11:17,516 --> 02:11:19,631 Santa Claus guy, who's going around 2749 02:11:19,654 --> 02:11:21,699 and leering at all the girls. 2750 02:11:21,724 --> 02:11:22,631 And as soon as he gets to the toilets, 2751 02:11:22,655 --> 02:11:24,103 you know what's gonna happen. 2752 02:11:25,516 --> 02:11:27,586 And it's just blood squirting everywhere. 2753 02:11:32,654 --> 02:11:34,344 He gets his apt punishment. 2754 02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:37,769 Caroline Munroe turns up in this film as well, 2755 02:11:37,792 --> 02:11:38,975 which was a surprise. 2756 02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:41,181 She's like a dancer in a club. 2757 02:11:41,206 --> 02:11:43,354 Man, that woman is beautiful. 2758 02:11:43,378 --> 02:11:46,033 If you blink, you're gonna miss me in it. 2759 02:11:48,033 --> 02:11:49,734 George Dugdale, my husband, 2760 02:11:49,757 --> 02:11:52,975 he did the effects on "Don't Open Till Christmas". 2761 02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:55,769 They got the Piccadilly Theater in London. 2762 02:11:55,792 --> 02:11:57,940 I went in for about two hours, 2763 02:11:57,965 --> 02:12:00,907 on the thing, and I wiggled about the stage, 2764 02:12:00,930 --> 02:12:02,837 and kind of sang "Warrior of Love". 2765 02:12:02,862 --> 02:12:04,802 Basically, that's my bit in it. 2766 02:12:04,827 --> 02:12:07,148 ♪ I'm the warrior of love 2767 02:12:07,171 --> 02:12:08,907 ♪ Yes I am 2768 02:12:08,930 --> 02:12:10,975 Father Christmas appears, and the trapdoor, 2769 02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:13,872 just as I'm mid-sing, and so I react to him, 2770 02:12:13,895 --> 02:12:15,171 the Father Christmas dead. 2771 02:12:20,586 --> 02:12:22,802 Maybe they just needed a bit of a filler. 2772 02:12:22,827 --> 02:12:25,286 Maybe they thought, oh we've got five minutes to spare. 2773 02:12:25,310 --> 02:12:26,423 Bang her in. 2774 02:12:26,448 --> 02:12:28,136 ♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah 2775 02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:30,942 A lot of Santas die in this film, 2776 02:12:30,966 --> 02:12:32,975 so if you are into horror movies 2777 02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:35,802 for the festive body count, then this is the one. 2778 02:12:35,827 --> 02:12:37,551 There's a party going on! 2779 02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:40,757 Look, there's no party here, mate. 2780 02:12:48,930 --> 02:12:51,595 I wasn't allowed to watch horror movies 2781 02:12:51,619 --> 02:12:56,216 or sci-fi movies when I was little. 2782 02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:58,907 Because I was too sensitive. 2783 02:12:58,930 --> 02:13:01,975 I was older when I saw "The Exorcist". 2784 02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:05,457 That was the most frightening movie I've ever seen. 2785 02:13:05,481 --> 02:13:07,457 I felt it could really happen. 2786 02:13:07,481 --> 02:13:10,043 This study of the human psyche 2787 02:13:10,068 --> 02:13:13,837 has always been prevalent in my work, 2788 02:13:13,862 --> 02:13:15,895 and in why I want to work. 2789 02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:20,802 My whole method is the less I know 2790 02:13:20,827 --> 02:13:25,586 what's gonna happen, the more alive in the moment I am. 2791 02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:30,699 The most memorable scene in "The Hills Have Eyes" 2792 02:13:30,724 --> 02:13:34,389 with Wes was when I had to work with the tarantula. 2793 02:13:34,412 --> 02:13:37,664 They assured me that it couldn't hurt me. 2794 02:13:37,689 --> 02:13:42,113 Afterwards, I found out that oh yeah, it could've. 2795 02:13:42,136 --> 02:13:44,181 And I said Wes, I'm scared. 2796 02:13:44,206 --> 02:13:46,802 And he said, will you trust me, 2797 02:13:46,827 --> 02:13:50,286 that I will make sure that everything is handled 2798 02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:51,378 so that you're safe? 2799 02:13:53,654 --> 02:13:55,423 And that's just who Wes was. 2800 02:13:55,448 --> 02:13:56,448 You did. 2801 02:13:58,792 --> 02:14:02,734 To me, "The Howling" was the battle of good and evil, 2802 02:14:02,757 --> 02:14:05,286 which goes on within all of us. 2803 02:14:05,310 --> 02:14:08,457 There was so much in "The Howling" 2804 02:14:08,481 --> 02:14:13,481 that elevated that film, because of Joe Dante. 2805 02:14:14,689 --> 02:14:16,872 Joe brings more of who he is into his films, 2806 02:14:16,895 --> 02:14:20,216 because Joe is very funny. 2807 02:14:20,240 --> 02:14:23,734 And he always finds a way 2808 02:14:23,757 --> 02:14:25,631 to bring that humor, 2809 02:14:25,654 --> 02:14:27,595 even if it's dark humor, 2810 02:14:27,619 --> 02:14:29,757 into his projects. 2811 02:14:33,792 --> 02:14:37,802 "Cujo" was always about what a mother would do 2812 02:14:37,827 --> 02:14:38,975 for her child. 2813 02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:41,699 It was never a horror film to me. 2814 02:14:41,724 --> 02:14:45,802 It was a statement of how far a mother would go 2815 02:14:45,827 --> 02:14:47,907 to keep her kid safe. 2816 02:14:47,930 --> 02:14:50,586 It's not a monster, it's just a doggie. 2817 02:14:52,654 --> 02:14:54,319 I've heard from so many people, 2818 02:14:54,344 --> 02:14:56,664 I watched it when I was younger, 2819 02:14:56,689 --> 02:14:57,872 and it was a horror film. 2820 02:14:57,895 --> 02:15:00,216 I watch it now after I have kids, 2821 02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:03,310 it's a whole different film. 2822 02:15:06,654 --> 02:15:09,251 My father was a severe alcoholic. 2823 02:15:09,274 --> 02:15:14,043 So for most practical purposes, I had a single mom. 2824 02:15:14,068 --> 02:15:15,975 And she was a strong mom. 2825 02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:19,769 And I had a strong grandma that helped raise me. 2826 02:15:19,792 --> 02:15:23,940 So I had some really good personal material 2827 02:15:23,965 --> 02:15:25,310 to call on. 2828 02:15:29,895 --> 02:15:32,664 There were nine dogs that played Cujo. 2829 02:15:32,689 --> 02:15:35,975 Two black labs that could fit in a dog suit 2830 02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:39,619 if we needed it, and a stuntman in the dog suit. 2831 02:15:41,551 --> 02:15:44,354 The dogs were all trained to go after toys, 2832 02:15:44,378 --> 02:15:47,975 and we had to tie their tails down with fish wire, 2833 02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:50,619 because they were having so much fun. 2834 02:15:52,930 --> 02:15:56,527 Stephen King is the sweetest, kinda shy, 2835 02:15:56,551 --> 02:15:58,699 very gentle man. 2836 02:15:58,724 --> 02:16:00,457 When he came on the set of "Cujo", 2837 02:16:00,481 --> 02:16:05,078 I went, where does it come from? 2838 02:16:05,103 --> 02:16:07,000 And he just started laughing. 2839 02:16:08,930 --> 02:16:13,930 After "E.T.", I was plagued with mother parts. 2840 02:16:15,103 --> 02:16:16,769 It's not that I don't want to play mothers, 2841 02:16:16,792 --> 02:16:19,802 I just want to play everything. 2842 02:16:19,827 --> 02:16:22,802 Dear god, I probably have 800 roles 2843 02:16:22,827 --> 02:16:24,113 of every kind of mom. 2844 02:16:24,136 --> 02:16:27,354 Psycho mom, sweet mom, drugged mom, 2845 02:16:27,378 --> 02:16:30,113 killer mom, hooker mom. 2846 02:16:30,136 --> 02:16:31,171 Everything! 2847 02:16:32,206 --> 02:16:33,011 No! 2848 02:16:33,034 --> 02:16:34,251 No! 2849 02:16:34,274 --> 02:16:38,896 No, no! 2850 02:16:40,274 --> 02:16:42,182 It was almost like poetry to me, "Shadow Play". 2851 02:16:42,206 --> 02:16:45,724 And I wanted desperately to work with Cloris Leachman. 2852 02:16:47,067 --> 02:16:52,067 I had to do that very artsy dream nude scene, 2853 02:16:53,206 --> 02:16:54,765 and my husband was not happy about that. 2854 02:16:55,965 --> 02:16:58,769 I don't think I've ever told this story before. 2855 02:16:58,792 --> 02:17:00,206 He called me, and he said 2856 02:17:01,448 --> 02:17:03,424 if you do that scene tomorrow, 2857 02:17:03,448 --> 02:17:05,182 I think we're done. 2858 02:17:05,206 --> 02:17:09,527 I said Chris, don't make me make that choice. 2859 02:17:09,550 --> 02:17:13,493 We got my therapist on the phone at three a.m. 2860 02:17:13,516 --> 02:17:15,630 in the morning, and we worked it out 2861 02:17:15,655 --> 02:17:18,700 that what was really bothering him 2862 02:17:18,724 --> 02:17:21,906 was that he would have to wait all those months 2863 02:17:21,931 --> 02:17:23,769 wondering what happened. 2864 02:17:23,792 --> 02:17:27,147 And if the director would agree to show him the dailies, 2865 02:17:27,172 --> 02:17:28,354 he would be okay. 2866 02:17:28,379 --> 02:17:31,319 Now, this is pretty funny coming from a guy 2867 02:17:31,343 --> 02:17:35,217 who had a huge naked love scene in "The Howling", 2868 02:17:35,240 --> 02:17:37,871 and he expected me to be just fine with it, 2869 02:17:37,896 --> 02:17:39,448 thank you very much. 2870 02:17:40,448 --> 02:17:41,595 But, you know. 2871 02:17:41,620 --> 02:17:45,343 That's a man for you. 2872 02:18:01,655 --> 02:18:02,976 Rubin Galindo Jr. 2873 02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:04,182 He's awesome! 2874 02:18:04,206 --> 02:18:06,871 Rubin has an amazing lineup of movies, 2875 02:18:06,896 --> 02:18:09,137 and he really made a stamp in the 80s. 2876 02:18:10,309 --> 02:18:14,274 Rubin, 2877 02:18:20,724 --> 02:18:23,595 The difference between the Mexican horror films, 2878 02:18:23,620 --> 02:18:25,217 and international horror films, 2879 02:18:25,240 --> 02:18:29,286 we like to mix a little bit of spirituality, 2880 02:18:29,309 --> 02:18:32,388 and to let some things to the unknown. 2881 02:18:32,413 --> 02:18:35,137 We don't tend to try to explain. 2882 02:18:37,516 --> 02:18:39,871 My dad did Luchador films, 2883 02:18:39,896 --> 02:18:41,251 with monsters films. 2884 02:18:41,274 --> 02:18:43,665 "El Santo Contra Los Asesinos De Ostros Mundos". 2885 02:18:43,689 --> 02:18:47,240 The saint against killers from other worlds. 2886 02:18:50,309 --> 02:18:51,931 It's beautiful. 2887 02:18:57,000 --> 02:18:58,458 Michael Jackson's "Thriller". 2888 02:18:58,481 --> 02:19:00,388 That struck me hard, 2889 02:19:00,413 --> 02:19:03,112 and then one day, my dad told me, 2890 02:19:03,137 --> 02:19:04,871 would you think it's a good idea 2891 02:19:04,896 --> 02:19:07,182 to make a film like Michael Jackson's "Thriller"? 2892 02:19:07,206 --> 02:19:08,217 I said, yes! 2893 02:19:08,240 --> 02:19:09,424 It's a great idea! 2894 02:19:09,448 --> 02:19:10,585 I wanna do that! 2895 02:19:15,309 --> 02:19:16,561 It's a bunch of teenagers, 2896 02:19:16,585 --> 02:19:18,286 they wanna have fun in Halloween. 2897 02:19:18,309 --> 02:19:20,976 They go to the morgue, they steal a corpse, 2898 02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:24,481 and they pretend to do a demonic ritual. 2899 02:19:26,861 --> 02:19:29,585 They woke up the demon inside, Devlon, 2900 02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:32,792 who was a killer. 2901 02:19:40,481 --> 02:19:43,837 And all of the sudden, Michael Jackson's "Thriller". 2902 02:19:43,861 --> 02:19:46,000 Pops out of the tombs. 2903 02:19:48,033 --> 02:19:51,734 I felt very compromised with the budget. 2904 02:19:51,757 --> 02:19:53,689 I had a hard time. 2905 02:19:56,172 --> 02:19:57,976 The lousiest effect of all 2906 02:19:58,000 --> 02:20:00,630 is when the guy that was taking a leak, 2907 02:20:00,655 --> 02:20:03,837 Alonso Garcia, finds the girl lying all dead 2908 02:20:03,861 --> 02:20:05,217 with blood all over her, 2909 02:20:05,240 --> 02:20:08,251 and then there is a flying ax 2910 02:20:08,274 --> 02:20:09,896 that hits him in the face. 2911 02:20:11,067 --> 02:20:14,871 You could see that the ax had a metal pole. 2912 02:20:14,896 --> 02:20:16,976 I wasn't looking through the camera, 2913 02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:20,000 because I was playing the ax. 2914 02:20:21,585 --> 02:20:22,802 I think that's the charm. 2915 02:20:22,826 --> 02:20:25,493 It's kind of looking at a kitsch art, 2916 02:20:25,516 --> 02:20:26,837 when you see a horror film 2917 02:20:26,861 --> 02:20:29,078 that was done with such a low budget, 2918 02:20:29,102 --> 02:20:31,493 it's looking at like an Ed Wood film. 2919 02:20:31,516 --> 02:20:33,182 The only guy that believes in the film 2920 02:20:33,206 --> 02:20:36,343 is the director. 2921 02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:48,424 It's hard to say what kind of influence 2922 02:20:48,448 --> 02:20:50,286 Stephen King had on movies, 2923 02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:52,906 because of so many directors attempted 2924 02:20:52,931 --> 02:20:55,871 so many different kinds of film, it's hard to say. 2925 02:20:55,896 --> 02:20:57,527 It depends on how well done they are. 2926 02:20:57,550 --> 02:20:59,826 I know Stephen King loves "Cujo". 2927 02:21:01,931 --> 02:21:05,000 Stephen King's "Cat's Eye". 2928 02:21:06,413 --> 02:21:08,493 Capitalizing on the popularity of "Creepshow'", 2929 02:21:08,516 --> 02:21:10,354 and Stephen King in general, 2930 02:21:10,379 --> 02:21:11,976 the studios decided they should make 2931 02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:13,941 another horror anthology, 2932 02:21:13,965 --> 02:21:16,769 and that's how we got "Cat's Eye". 2933 02:21:16,792 --> 02:21:19,354 "Cat's Eye" is by Lewis Teague. 2934 02:21:19,379 --> 02:21:21,665 He'd done "Cujo" at the time. 2935 02:21:21,689 --> 02:21:24,251 It is also co-produced by Milton Subotsky, 2936 02:21:24,274 --> 02:21:26,550 who was kind of the king of anthology horror. 2937 02:21:27,965 --> 02:21:29,595 He's the guy who produced Tales From the Crypt, 2938 02:21:29,620 --> 02:21:32,620 and Dr. Terror's House of Horrors, and Asylum. 2939 02:21:33,757 --> 02:21:36,217 "Cat's Eye" is three stories, 2940 02:21:36,240 --> 02:21:37,906 two of which are taken from Stephen King's 2941 02:21:37,931 --> 02:21:40,354 short story book, "Night Shift". 2942 02:21:40,379 --> 02:21:42,286 Watch for the "Cujo" and "Christine" references 2943 02:21:42,309 --> 02:21:43,309 in the beginning. 2944 02:21:44,585 --> 02:21:46,734 The first segment is called "Quitters Incorporated", 2945 02:21:46,757 --> 02:21:49,010 and it stars James Woods as a guy who's trying 2946 02:21:49,033 --> 02:21:51,319 to quit smoking, and the problem is what they do 2947 02:21:51,343 --> 02:21:55,137 to get you to quit smoking is incredibly extreme. 2948 02:22:01,033 --> 02:22:03,010 The second segment is "The Ledge". 2949 02:22:03,033 --> 02:22:04,493 This is about a rich guy played 2950 02:22:04,516 --> 02:22:05,561 by Kenneth McMillan, 2951 02:22:05,585 --> 02:22:07,078 who discovers that Robert Hayes 2952 02:22:07,102 --> 02:22:09,527 has been sleeping with his wife. 2953 02:22:09,550 --> 02:22:10,906 He tells him that if he makes it 2954 02:22:10,931 --> 02:22:13,388 all the way around the building on this ledge, 2955 02:22:13,413 --> 02:22:15,837 that he can leave and take his wife. 2956 02:22:15,861 --> 02:22:17,343 Boogie, boogie, boogie! 2957 02:22:19,137 --> 02:22:20,354 You bastard! 2958 02:22:20,379 --> 02:22:22,067 I just wanna keep you on your toes! 2959 02:22:23,240 --> 02:22:24,458 The third story was more or less 2960 02:22:24,481 --> 02:22:26,319 how the whole thing came about. 2961 02:22:26,343 --> 02:22:29,493 Producer Dino De Laurentiis contacted Stephen King 2962 02:22:29,516 --> 02:22:31,319 and told him he wanted him to write a story 2963 02:22:31,343 --> 02:22:33,941 specifically for Drew Barrymore, 2964 02:22:33,965 --> 02:22:36,458 because they had just worked together on "Firestarter". 2965 02:22:36,481 --> 02:22:38,976 He wrote the script in less than 24 hours. 2966 02:22:39,000 --> 02:22:42,976 Help me! 2967 02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:45,976 The movie's tied together with this cat, The General, 2968 02:22:46,000 --> 02:22:48,493 who's on his way to try to protect Drew Barrymore 2969 02:22:48,516 --> 02:22:50,931 from a troll that's living in her walls. 2970 02:22:55,826 --> 02:22:57,286 The troll's trying to kill the little girl 2971 02:22:57,309 --> 02:22:59,655 by stealing her breath while she sleeps. 2972 02:23:01,620 --> 02:23:03,665 Carlo Rambaldi created the creature, 2973 02:23:03,689 --> 02:23:05,527 and it is very realistic. 2974 02:23:05,550 --> 02:23:08,769 The troll was a little person in a suit. 2975 02:23:08,792 --> 02:23:11,630 They're doing puppetry, they're doing forced perspective. 2976 02:23:11,655 --> 02:23:13,112 It's fantastic. 2977 02:23:13,137 --> 02:23:15,700 The movie actually is in the Guinness Book of World Records 2978 02:23:15,724 --> 02:23:18,043 for making the world's largest bed, 2979 02:23:18,067 --> 02:23:20,689 and the world's largest pillows. 2980 02:23:22,033 --> 02:23:23,976 I love how the record player comes into play 2981 02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:25,700 with this segment. 2982 02:23:25,724 --> 02:23:27,309 Watch out! 2983 02:23:30,965 --> 02:23:32,458 Anthologies are kinda hit or miss, 2984 02:23:32,481 --> 02:23:35,700 but with this, I think all three segments are strong, 2985 02:23:35,724 --> 02:23:39,000 with the last one, "The General", being the strongest. 2986 02:23:40,550 --> 02:23:43,286 Anytime you have a movie where a cat is a hero, 2987 02:23:43,309 --> 02:23:44,689 I am in. 2988 02:23:59,206 --> 02:24:00,941 "Phenomena", from Dario Argento 2989 02:24:00,965 --> 02:24:04,493 is another sort of wildly weird movie in itself. 2990 02:24:04,516 --> 02:24:05,976 When I first saw it, I actually saw it 2991 02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:07,251 as "The Creepers" version. 2992 02:24:07,274 --> 02:24:09,388 There's actually three versions of the film. 2993 02:24:09,413 --> 02:24:11,424 "Phenomena" follows Jennifer Connelly, 2994 02:24:11,448 --> 02:24:13,734 who's a young student studying abroad, 2995 02:24:13,757 --> 02:24:17,251 who basically has a psychic connection 2996 02:24:17,274 --> 02:24:18,630 with bugs, of all things, 2997 02:24:18,655 --> 02:24:21,217 and she comes across Donald Pleasant, 2998 02:24:21,240 --> 02:24:24,458 who's an entomologist that works with bugs 2999 02:24:24,481 --> 02:24:26,941 in a means to help solve crimes. 3000 02:24:26,965 --> 02:24:29,734 It is just like, is Argento kind of of woke up one day, 3001 02:24:29,757 --> 02:24:32,424 and was picking motifs out of a hat, 3002 02:24:32,448 --> 02:24:33,871 and was like, here's "Phenomena", 3003 02:24:33,896 --> 02:24:35,561 but yet somehow it all works, 3004 02:24:35,585 --> 02:24:37,182 and I think a lot of credit is due 3005 02:24:37,206 --> 02:24:39,147 to Jennifer Connolly's performance. 3006 02:24:39,172 --> 02:24:40,010 Don't touch it! 3007 02:24:40,033 --> 02:24:40,941 Stop yelling! 3008 02:24:40,965 --> 02:24:41,802 It's a bee! 3009 02:24:41,826 --> 02:24:42,631 I know. 3010 02:24:42,656 --> 02:24:44,630 It won't hurt me. 3011 02:24:44,655 --> 02:24:46,182 Insects never hurt me. 3012 02:24:46,206 --> 02:24:48,941 Donald Pleasant is always a welcome addition 3013 02:24:48,965 --> 02:24:50,424 to any cast. 3014 02:24:50,448 --> 02:24:52,585 You're in a position to do extraordinary things 3015 02:24:53,931 --> 02:24:55,354 with that gift of yours. 3016 02:24:55,379 --> 02:24:57,976 Daria Nicolodi, who had worked so many times with Argento. 3017 02:24:58,000 --> 02:24:59,319 It's one of the first instances 3018 02:24:59,343 --> 02:25:01,837 I can remember her being a villain in a movie. 3019 02:25:01,861 --> 02:25:04,067 And she's so great in it. 3020 02:25:08,689 --> 02:25:10,182 Inga is the chimpanzee, 3021 02:25:10,206 --> 02:25:13,354 who is the assistant to McGreggor in the movie. 3022 02:25:13,379 --> 02:25:15,595 And she is a delight. 3023 02:25:15,620 --> 02:25:16,906 Early on in the movie, there's a point 3024 02:25:16,931 --> 02:25:18,182 where she's playing with a scalpel, 3025 02:25:18,206 --> 02:25:19,941 and he's like, Inga. 3026 02:25:19,965 --> 02:25:21,388 I don't want you ever, 3027 02:25:21,413 --> 02:25:24,689 I don't want you ever, ever playing with this again. 3028 02:25:26,137 --> 02:25:28,217 That moment has a payoff in the end that I won't ruin. 3029 02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:31,689 But Inga actually becomes your favorite part of the movie. 3030 02:25:33,379 --> 02:25:34,941 The "Phenomena" soundtrack is a lot of fun, 3031 02:25:34,965 --> 02:25:38,147 because it marries contemporary music of that time, 3032 02:25:38,172 --> 02:25:39,871 especially heavy metal music, 3033 02:25:39,896 --> 02:25:43,413 with these traditional score from Goblin. 3034 02:25:50,343 --> 02:25:52,217 It's really interesting that it's specifically 3035 02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:56,527 in "Phenomena" that Argenta would use heavy metal music 3036 02:25:56,550 --> 02:26:01,550 in these weird ways that shouldn't work, and yet it does. 3037 02:26:02,757 --> 02:26:04,286 ♪ The smell of resigned leather ♪ 3038 02:26:04,309 --> 02:26:06,319 ♪ The sticky iron mask 3039 02:26:06,343 --> 02:26:07,561 ♪ As you cut and thrust 3040 02:26:07,585 --> 02:26:08,802 ♪ And parried at the fencing 3041 02:26:08,826 --> 02:26:10,665 Particularly during the kill scenes. 3042 02:26:10,689 --> 02:26:12,493 It actually heightens the tensions, 3043 02:26:12,516 --> 02:26:13,976 in those scenes in particular, 3044 02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:16,388 and makes them play in a very different way 3045 02:26:16,413 --> 02:26:17,769 than I think you see contemporary music 3046 02:26:17,792 --> 02:26:19,516 played in American horror. 3047 02:26:30,240 --> 02:26:31,700 What you love is the feeling 3048 02:26:31,724 --> 02:26:33,931 when you're stomping out life. 3049 02:26:35,137 --> 02:26:37,976 "The Doctor and the Devils". 3050 02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:39,388 "The Doctor and the Devils", 3051 02:26:39,413 --> 02:26:42,665 this is a classic British gothic horror story. 3052 02:26:42,689 --> 02:26:45,286 Quite lavish, quite beautiful to look at. 3053 02:26:45,309 --> 02:26:49,458 What now would they be doing for a living, lovey? 3054 02:26:49,481 --> 02:26:51,043 Grave robbers. 3055 02:26:51,067 --> 02:26:52,769 It's definitely one that seems to be missed 3056 02:26:52,792 --> 02:26:55,010 off a lot of lists of best British horror films. 3057 02:26:55,033 --> 02:26:56,354 Before we disturbed his sleep. 3058 02:26:56,379 --> 02:26:58,630 It's crawling with maggots. 3059 02:26:58,655 --> 02:27:00,493 I need fresh subjects. 3060 02:27:00,516 --> 02:27:02,078 Specimens that I can teach with. 3061 02:27:02,102 --> 02:27:04,319 This is, in fact, a decent movie 3062 02:27:04,343 --> 02:27:06,630 with a great cast, and a good story. 3063 02:27:06,655 --> 02:27:07,965 And I believe that that end 3064 02:27:08,896 --> 02:27:11,000 justifies any means. 3065 02:27:13,620 --> 02:27:17,147 And it stars some amazing British actors and actresses. 3066 02:27:17,172 --> 02:27:19,182 Dr. Rock needs fresh bodies. 3067 02:27:19,206 --> 02:27:20,217 Could we pay them, sir? 3068 02:27:20,240 --> 02:27:21,665 Only half. 3069 02:27:21,689 --> 02:27:24,769 Julien Sands, Jonathan Pryce, Stephen Rea and Twiggy. 3070 02:27:24,792 --> 02:27:27,595 It was amazing to see Timothy Dalton in it. 3071 02:27:27,620 --> 02:27:29,931 We're scientists, not moralists. 3072 02:27:30,792 --> 02:27:32,493 I need bodies. 3073 02:27:32,516 --> 02:27:33,941 They're not called Burke and Hare, 3074 02:27:33,965 --> 02:27:35,764 but they're kind of analogs of Burke and Hare. 3075 02:27:36,343 --> 02:27:38,354 Quiet as death tonight. 3076 02:27:38,379 --> 02:27:39,595 Praise be the Lord. 3077 02:27:39,620 --> 02:27:40,871 For those that don't know, Burke and Hare 3078 02:27:40,896 --> 02:27:43,424 is the story of two grave robbers 3079 02:27:43,448 --> 02:27:44,769 who used to steal dead bodies. 3080 02:27:44,792 --> 02:27:46,010 And it's a true story. 3081 02:27:46,033 --> 02:27:48,010 Steal dead bodies and sell them for profit. 3082 02:27:48,033 --> 02:27:49,527 And when the dead bodies run out, 3083 02:27:49,550 --> 02:27:51,976 they start killing actual alive people, 3084 02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:53,561 and selling them on. 3085 02:27:53,585 --> 02:27:56,000 Quite the benefactors, the dead. 3086 02:27:57,413 --> 02:27:59,906 Their story kind of spins out on the head a little bit. 3087 02:27:59,931 --> 02:28:02,251 Put them out of their misery, Mr. Fallon! 3088 02:28:02,274 --> 02:28:03,769 That's what the major said to me. 3089 02:28:03,792 --> 02:28:05,837 Pryce, quite unhinged in the characters he does play, 3090 02:28:05,861 --> 02:28:07,871 and he looks evil, as well. 3091 02:28:07,896 --> 02:28:08,896 Fresh, Broom. 3092 02:28:09,724 --> 02:28:11,033 Fresh as new moon here. 3093 02:28:12,379 --> 02:28:14,458 This film was directed by Freddie Francis, 3094 02:28:14,481 --> 02:28:16,493 who you may know made his start 3095 02:28:16,516 --> 02:28:18,354 with Amicus and Hammer, 3096 02:28:18,379 --> 02:28:20,976 doing some great gothic horror for them. 3097 02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:22,734 And this is kind of a continuation of that. 3098 02:28:22,757 --> 02:28:24,700 And you can see a lot of the things he learned 3099 02:28:24,724 --> 02:28:26,112 with Amicus and Hammer, 3100 02:28:26,137 --> 02:28:29,665 the kind of level of detail in the period pieces, 3101 02:28:29,689 --> 02:28:31,941 in the architecture, in the costumes. 3102 02:28:31,965 --> 02:28:33,388 And that kind of gothic horror, 3103 02:28:33,413 --> 02:28:36,286 where you don't necessarily need to see the killing. 3104 02:28:36,309 --> 02:28:39,354 Fresh bodies, fresh bodies, fresh bodies. 3105 02:28:39,379 --> 02:28:41,217 You may just see a shadow on the wall, 3106 02:28:41,240 --> 02:28:43,458 or the aftermath, just that beautiful girl's 3107 02:28:43,481 --> 02:28:44,481 blood on her mouth. 3108 02:28:46,274 --> 02:28:48,182 The ultimate message in "The Doctor and the Devils" 3109 02:28:48,206 --> 02:28:50,458 is if you want something done, do it yourself. 3110 02:28:50,481 --> 02:28:51,941 But it's really well-done, 3111 02:28:51,965 --> 02:28:54,043 and I was actually surprised how well this holds up. 3112 02:28:54,067 --> 02:28:56,561 This city has a heart of goodness. 3113 02:28:56,585 --> 02:28:59,033 And the bowels of squalor. 3114 02:29:04,620 --> 02:29:05,769 For a good time, call- 3115 02:29:05,792 --> 02:29:08,550 "Transylvania 6-5000". 3116 02:29:09,585 --> 02:29:11,354 Is good, huh? 3117 02:29:11,379 --> 02:29:14,769 "Transylvania 6-5000" is an incredibly underrated 3118 02:29:14,792 --> 02:29:17,976 horror comedy, or should I say comedy horror, 3119 02:29:18,000 --> 02:29:19,388 from the 80s. 3120 02:29:19,413 --> 02:29:22,286 It's got a lot of really fun moments. 3121 02:29:22,309 --> 02:29:24,354 And the whole movie just has this uplifting 3122 02:29:24,379 --> 02:29:26,493 jovial feeling to it. 3123 02:29:26,516 --> 02:29:27,700 Ah, Radu. 3124 02:29:27,724 --> 02:29:29,112 Yes, master? 3125 02:29:29,137 --> 02:29:30,458 Everybody involved looks like they're having 3126 02:29:30,481 --> 02:29:31,871 an absolute blast. 3127 02:29:31,896 --> 02:29:35,010 You've got Ed Begley Jr., Jeff Goldblum. 3128 02:29:35,033 --> 02:29:36,217 Every time I give you- 3129 02:29:36,240 --> 02:29:37,769 Two reporters from a rag newspaper 3130 02:29:37,792 --> 02:29:40,630 are headed to Transylvania to try to find Frankenstein. 3131 02:29:40,655 --> 02:29:43,700 So I'm counting on you guys for a Frankenstein story. 3132 02:29:43,724 --> 02:29:45,802 I'm sorry, you're counting on us for a what story? 3133 02:29:45,826 --> 02:29:47,837 My favorite part is when they first arrive 3134 02:29:47,861 --> 02:29:51,527 in Transylvania, and they ask a point blank question, 3135 02:29:51,550 --> 02:29:53,976 hey, where can we find Frankenstein. 3136 02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:56,379 Frankenstein, you know Frankenstein don't you? 3137 02:29:57,309 --> 02:29:58,079 Frankenstein? 3138 02:29:58,103 --> 02:29:59,112 Yes, the monster. 3139 02:29:59,137 --> 02:30:00,388 Ah. 3140 02:30:00,413 --> 02:30:01,734 Instead of just laughing them off, 3141 02:30:01,757 --> 02:30:04,906 they drag it off and humiliate them. 3142 02:30:04,931 --> 02:30:06,388 And then they get the mayor to come out, 3143 02:30:06,413 --> 02:30:08,286 played by Jeffrey Jones, 3144 02:30:08,309 --> 02:30:10,527 and with the straightest face possible, 3145 02:30:10,550 --> 02:30:14,724 says gentlemen, we're in Transylvania. 3146 02:30:15,931 --> 02:30:18,274 Don't you want to ask us about Dracula? 3147 02:30:19,757 --> 02:30:21,861 And then just bursts out laughing. 3148 02:30:23,067 --> 02:30:23,977 I've got Godzilla in the back room. 3149 02:30:24,001 --> 02:30:25,837 I like it, it's a good one. 3150 02:30:25,861 --> 02:30:27,172 How about the Blob? 3151 02:30:28,379 --> 02:30:29,734 It wouldn't be much of a monster movie 3152 02:30:29,757 --> 02:30:32,665 without the monsters actually showing up. 3153 02:30:32,689 --> 02:30:35,424 You got the mummy, a Frankenstein monster, 3154 02:30:35,448 --> 02:30:38,147 a werewolf who looks like Chewbacca. 3155 02:30:38,172 --> 02:30:39,837 Geena Davis as a vampire. 3156 02:30:39,861 --> 02:30:41,734 And then there's Kramer, Michael Richards, 3157 02:30:41,757 --> 02:30:43,861 playing an Igor type. 3158 02:30:45,655 --> 02:30:46,734 Is good, huh? 3159 02:30:46,757 --> 02:30:47,871 Is funny! 3160 02:30:47,896 --> 02:30:49,493 Wearing funny goggles, 3161 02:30:49,516 --> 02:30:52,182 riding a mechanical animal in a closet, 3162 02:30:52,206 --> 02:30:54,000 and slipping on banana peels. 3163 02:30:55,102 --> 02:30:57,319 Look, it's a beautiful day today! 3164 02:30:57,343 --> 02:30:58,217 Whoa! 3165 02:30:58,240 --> 02:30:58,977 - Hey, hey! - Oh! 3166 02:30:59,001 --> 02:31:00,527 Are you okay? 3167 02:31:00,550 --> 02:31:01,802 This one would make for a wonderful double feature 3168 02:31:01,826 --> 02:31:03,388 with "Saturday the 14th". 3169 02:31:03,413 --> 02:31:06,067 They both have the same kind of sophomoric humor. 3170 02:31:09,724 --> 02:31:11,448 And fun creature effects. 3171 02:31:28,896 --> 02:31:30,976 "Guinea Pig: Devil's Experiment". 3172 02:31:31,000 --> 02:31:32,493 This is a found footage movie 3173 02:31:32,516 --> 02:31:34,286 in the faux documentary style. 3174 02:31:34,309 --> 02:31:37,078 It has title cards, has an end card, 3175 02:31:37,102 --> 02:31:39,655 it's separated into acts, almost. 3176 02:31:41,448 --> 02:31:44,217 It is about three guys abusing this woman 3177 02:31:44,240 --> 02:31:47,724 in sequentially horrible ways. 3178 02:31:49,931 --> 02:31:52,630 And is absolutely gruesome. 3179 02:31:52,655 --> 02:31:54,769 And really effective, because it's done in a way 3180 02:31:54,792 --> 02:31:57,734 where it does feel the closest you'll see 3181 02:31:57,757 --> 02:31:59,458 to seeing a snuff movie. 3182 02:31:59,481 --> 02:32:01,976 It was made by Satoru Ogura, 3183 02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:03,976 who wrote and directed it in 1985. 3184 02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:05,561 And the effects are inventive, 3185 02:32:05,585 --> 02:32:07,112 but it's not something you can just sit down 3186 02:32:07,137 --> 02:32:08,871 with a packet of crisps and eat it, 3187 02:32:08,896 --> 02:32:10,871 because you'll be so grossed out. 3188 02:32:10,896 --> 02:32:12,458 It's a really interesting movie 3189 02:32:12,481 --> 02:32:15,286 that I wouldn't recommend to too many people, 3190 02:32:15,309 --> 02:32:18,769 but I will say, the sequels get more and more 3191 02:32:18,792 --> 02:32:20,319 and more interesting. 3192 02:32:20,343 --> 02:32:22,976 I am absolutely obsessed 3193 02:32:23,000 --> 02:32:25,493 by "Guinea Pig 5: Mermaid in a Manhole". 3194 02:32:25,516 --> 02:32:27,837 That movie manages to keep the grossness, 3195 02:32:27,861 --> 02:32:31,078 but add a really heartfelt story in it. 3196 02:32:31,102 --> 02:32:33,871 In the first one, there was absolutely no redemption 3197 02:32:33,896 --> 02:32:35,217 for these characters. 3198 02:32:35,240 --> 02:32:37,976 But in the later ones, they give the characters 3199 02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:40,424 a little bit more layers to them. 3200 02:32:40,448 --> 02:32:42,527 But they're still doing the wrong things. 3201 02:32:42,550 --> 02:32:43,976 Women still end up dying, 3202 02:32:44,000 --> 02:32:46,251 people still end up being tortured, 3203 02:32:46,274 --> 02:32:48,458 and even in my favorite moment in "The Manhole", 3204 02:32:48,481 --> 02:32:49,941 he thinks he's doing the right thing 3205 02:32:49,965 --> 02:32:52,112 by saving this mermaid in the sewer, 3206 02:32:52,137 --> 02:32:54,769 but he is effectively taken her out of her home, 3207 02:32:54,792 --> 02:32:57,102 and is slowly killing her for the sake of art. 3208 02:32:58,516 --> 02:33:01,112 These "Guinea Pig" movies are kind of notorious 3209 02:33:01,137 --> 02:33:03,527 as being the precursors to torture porn. 3210 02:33:03,550 --> 02:33:05,689 Things like "Hostel", things like that. 3211 02:33:10,724 --> 02:33:11,906 And I don't really see that type of movie 3212 02:33:11,931 --> 02:33:14,595 coming back again, because I think it was 3213 02:33:14,620 --> 02:33:18,217 really surrounding VHS, and the ability to share 3214 02:33:18,240 --> 02:33:19,595 horrific images with people, 3215 02:33:19,620 --> 02:33:21,078 which you can do at the touch of a button 3216 02:33:21,102 --> 02:33:22,527 with the internet now, 3217 02:33:22,550 --> 02:33:24,458 but back then, the feeling of having something 3218 02:33:24,481 --> 02:33:27,251 that you shouldn't have, a snuff movie, 3219 02:33:27,274 --> 02:33:29,769 and passing that around, is really the reason 3220 02:33:29,792 --> 02:33:31,941 why there's so many "Guinea Pig" movies, 3221 02:33:31,965 --> 02:33:34,286 and that's why also the "Faces of Death" movies 3222 02:33:34,309 --> 02:33:36,757 in the western world were so popular. 3223 02:33:50,033 --> 02:33:51,976 Spielberg once said to me 3224 02:33:52,000 --> 02:33:55,802 I would love to make a really vicious horror movie. 3225 02:33:55,826 --> 02:33:59,354 You wouldn't believe some of the dark ideas I have 3226 02:33:59,379 --> 02:34:02,595 that would probably challenge Cronenberg 3227 02:34:02,620 --> 02:34:07,043 as far as going the distance in shocking stuff. 3228 02:34:07,067 --> 02:34:09,700 But I can't do that because of who I am. 3229 02:34:09,724 --> 02:34:11,976 That was when he was best known 3230 02:34:12,000 --> 02:34:13,527 for "E.T." and "Poltergeist", 3231 02:34:13,550 --> 02:34:15,561 and more family friendly stuff. 3232 02:34:15,585 --> 02:34:17,976 He felt that that put him in a box 3233 02:34:18,000 --> 02:34:20,896 that didn't allow him to go to the other distance. 3234 02:34:22,550 --> 02:34:25,078 The most impactful horror films 3235 02:34:25,102 --> 02:34:27,561 will always come from some guy 3236 02:34:27,585 --> 02:34:30,182 in the middle of nowhere with a bunch of friends 3237 02:34:30,206 --> 02:34:32,976 who've made a movie, and it's really cool, 3238 02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:35,000 and is a huge success. 3239 02:34:37,792 --> 02:34:41,251 As soon as you have a committee involved 3240 02:34:41,274 --> 02:34:43,837 in making a horror film, it never works. 3241 02:34:43,861 --> 02:34:45,286 It's not a committee. 3242 02:34:45,309 --> 02:34:47,448 It's a singular vision. 3243 02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:51,010 Too many bones. 3244 02:34:51,033 --> 02:34:53,976 When you have one person with one clear vision, 3245 02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:55,561 that comes through in the final product. 3246 02:34:55,585 --> 02:34:57,665 So it's an important thing that there is a director 3247 02:34:57,689 --> 02:35:00,251 that sees it through from start to finish. 3248 02:35:00,274 --> 02:35:02,182 The lower the budget, the more creative 3249 02:35:02,206 --> 02:35:04,826 a filmmaker can get to realize their vision. 3250 02:35:06,240 --> 02:35:08,906 You just have to keep everything in perspective. 3251 02:35:08,931 --> 02:35:10,010 We're making movies. 3252 02:35:10,033 --> 02:35:11,527 We're doing what we love. 3253 02:35:11,550 --> 02:35:14,274 I said I think my ears are gonna explode. 3254 02:35:17,655 --> 02:35:19,458 I think that's really an important part 3255 02:35:19,481 --> 02:35:20,389 of being a filmmaker. 3256 02:35:20,414 --> 02:35:21,976 I wanted to affect something. 3257 02:35:22,000 --> 02:35:24,665 And that at the tenacity of the finish. 3258 02:35:24,689 --> 02:35:25,871 That's the whole thing. 3259 02:35:25,896 --> 02:35:28,354 Most people quit when things get rough. 3260 02:35:28,379 --> 02:35:30,700 And they always get rough. 3261 02:35:30,724 --> 02:35:34,043 Really the best directors I've ever worked with, 3262 02:35:34,067 --> 02:35:36,424 they hire the right people. 3263 02:35:36,448 --> 02:35:38,965 And they trust their talent. 3264 02:35:40,274 --> 02:35:43,493 When I think about the three great directors 3265 02:35:43,516 --> 02:35:46,217 that I've worked with, the ones that come to mind 3266 02:35:46,240 --> 02:35:49,458 are John Carpenter, George Romero, and Wes Craven. 3267 02:35:49,481 --> 02:35:51,147 They have a bunch of things in common. 3268 02:35:51,172 --> 02:35:53,665 They all knew exactly what they wanted. 3269 02:35:53,689 --> 02:35:56,976 And all three of them kept a very calm, 3270 02:35:57,000 --> 02:36:01,802 very supportive set, a very happy set. 3271 02:36:01,826 --> 02:36:04,388 Playing mind games, that's not the way 3272 02:36:04,413 --> 02:36:06,424 those three men directed. 3273 02:36:06,448 --> 02:36:07,355 Cut. 3274 02:36:07,379 --> 02:36:08,561 Prints, thank you. 3275 02:36:08,585 --> 02:36:10,078 I would argue that John Carpenter 3276 02:36:10,102 --> 02:36:11,630 was probably the most underrated 3277 02:36:11,655 --> 02:36:14,516 great American filmmaker ever. 3278 02:36:18,102 --> 02:36:20,286 And he's not probably largely viewed that way 3279 02:36:20,309 --> 02:36:22,147 by people who should view him that way. 3280 02:36:22,172 --> 02:36:23,769 He's certainly very revered by most people 3281 02:36:23,792 --> 02:36:25,388 who like horror, but he's much more 3282 02:36:25,413 --> 02:36:27,217 than a horror filmmaker. 3283 02:36:27,240 --> 02:36:29,043 Cronenberg, because he was headier, 3284 02:36:29,067 --> 02:36:31,354 I think got more due, and more acceptance 3285 02:36:31,379 --> 02:36:33,413 by the snobbier film community. 3286 02:36:35,413 --> 02:36:39,010 The relationship between humanity and physicality 3287 02:36:39,033 --> 02:36:41,319 is something that Cronenberg explores a lot, 3288 02:36:41,343 --> 02:36:44,976 whether it's "eXitenZ", or "Rabid", or "Shivers". 3289 02:36:45,000 --> 02:36:46,182 "The Fly". 3290 02:36:46,206 --> 02:36:49,458 He regurgitates on his food, it liquefies, 3291 02:36:49,481 --> 02:36:50,976 and then he sucks it back up. 3292 02:36:51,000 --> 02:36:53,000 It's a theme that he would come back to a lot 3293 02:36:54,724 --> 02:36:55,965 Oh my god. 3294 02:36:58,067 --> 02:37:01,043 John Carpenter's biggest influence on 1980s horror 3295 02:37:01,067 --> 02:37:03,802 was "Halloween" from 1978. 3296 02:37:03,826 --> 02:37:07,010 That really kicked off the slasher boom. 3297 02:37:07,033 --> 02:37:10,000 And paved the way for so many copycats after. 3298 02:37:15,102 --> 02:37:18,493 His legacy is that the genre was taken seriously, 3299 02:37:18,516 --> 02:37:20,286 and he wanted to give the audience, 3300 02:37:20,309 --> 02:37:23,043 not just a thrill, but just show how movie making 3301 02:37:23,067 --> 02:37:24,274 can be an experience. 3302 02:37:25,757 --> 02:37:28,147 ♪ Just the two of us 3303 02:37:28,172 --> 02:37:30,665 I didn't watch as many horror films 3304 02:37:30,689 --> 02:37:32,837 as I should have during the 80s 3305 02:37:32,861 --> 02:37:34,319 because I was so busy. 3306 02:37:34,343 --> 02:37:38,112 But I remember a lot of the movies I saw in the 70s, 3307 02:37:38,137 --> 02:37:41,700 "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" being a big one. 3308 02:37:41,724 --> 02:37:42,861 I loved that movie. 3309 02:37:44,413 --> 02:37:46,319 Tobe was a close friend. 3310 02:37:46,343 --> 02:37:48,595 Really upset by the passing of Tobe. 3311 02:37:48,620 --> 02:37:50,769 A very sweet man. 3312 02:37:50,792 --> 02:37:53,319 Really wonderful guy. 3313 02:37:53,343 --> 02:37:56,837 He made the cinematic experience for moviegoers 3314 02:37:56,861 --> 02:38:00,448 a lot more brutal I think than they were used to. 3315 02:38:04,000 --> 02:38:06,319 The two greatest movies that Tobe Hooper made, 3316 02:38:06,343 --> 02:38:08,665 "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre", and "Poltergeist", 3317 02:38:08,689 --> 02:38:10,976 were both used against him to say well, 3318 02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:13,871 he didn't direct one, and the other one is crap. 3319 02:38:13,896 --> 02:38:16,388 And so he struggled his whole life 3320 02:38:16,413 --> 02:38:19,343 to become more accepted as a director. 3321 02:38:22,206 --> 02:38:25,286 I feel like every movie Wes Craven makes 3322 02:38:25,309 --> 02:38:28,734 was like a statement piece, was groundbreaking, 3323 02:38:28,757 --> 02:38:30,251 wasn't like oh, here's a horror movie. 3324 02:38:30,274 --> 02:38:33,010 It was like, this has changed the face 3325 02:38:33,033 --> 02:38:34,585 of what we're watching today. 3326 02:38:38,550 --> 02:38:40,734 He was making films and having a blast. 3327 02:38:40,757 --> 02:38:45,251 He was very kind of, in the New York intellectual scene. 3328 02:38:45,274 --> 02:38:47,871 Night and day different, 3329 02:38:47,896 --> 02:38:50,792 were Wes Craven's movies and who he was. 3330 02:38:52,689 --> 02:38:54,734 George Romero, for someone who made 3331 02:38:54,757 --> 02:38:59,424 such really creepy, disturbing films, 3332 02:38:59,448 --> 02:39:01,251 he was such a bear. 3333 02:39:01,274 --> 02:39:05,516 Just a cuddly, sweet, delightful presence. 3334 02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:09,527 My god. 3335 02:39:09,550 --> 02:39:12,837 George was a master, and he was always ahead of his time. 3336 02:39:12,861 --> 02:39:15,424 That's what was so remarkable about George's films. 3337 02:39:15,448 --> 02:39:18,550 They get better and better with age. 3338 02:39:25,240 --> 02:39:28,976 Dario Argento, he was consistently impressive 3339 02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:31,965 as a filmmaker, right up to and including "Two Evil Eyes". 3340 02:39:34,826 --> 02:39:36,700 What's special about Dario 3341 02:39:36,724 --> 02:39:40,078 is his operatic style of filmmaking. 3342 02:39:40,102 --> 02:39:42,137 He revels in murder. 3343 02:39:44,413 --> 02:39:47,388 He has a fetish for creating 3344 02:39:47,413 --> 02:39:50,309 these amazing murder set pieces. 3345 02:39:58,516 --> 02:40:00,527 Steward Gordon was a provocateur. 3346 02:40:00,550 --> 02:40:04,620 He liked to make movies that really provoked a reaction. 3347 02:40:07,448 --> 02:40:10,595 Stewart was the king of the party. 3348 02:40:10,620 --> 02:40:15,620 He made sure that everything was big and bold and body. 3349 02:40:19,516 --> 02:40:21,010 He has a different personality 3350 02:40:21,033 --> 02:40:22,595 with pretty much every movie he does. 3351 02:40:22,620 --> 02:40:24,354 "Dagon" has a different personality. 3352 02:40:24,379 --> 02:40:26,458 "Dolls" has a different personality. 3353 02:40:26,481 --> 02:40:28,286 "Stuck" has a different personality. 3354 02:40:28,309 --> 02:40:31,240 "Castle Freak", everything's a little different. 3355 02:40:37,481 --> 02:40:39,906 Kathryn Bigelow, in my estimation, 3356 02:40:39,931 --> 02:40:42,700 Mary Lambert, they broke the mold a little bit. 3357 02:40:42,724 --> 02:40:44,388 They were very bold. 3358 02:40:44,413 --> 02:40:46,182 I think they knew they were gonna be able 3359 02:40:46,206 --> 02:40:48,941 to find advocacy within the studio system. 3360 02:40:48,965 --> 02:40:50,769 I think they had that confidence. 3361 02:40:50,792 --> 02:40:54,206 And that confidence radiates from those products. 3362 02:40:55,448 --> 02:40:59,078 Fasten your fucking seatbelt! 3363 02:40:59,102 --> 02:41:03,424 It was very, very difficult for women directors 3364 02:41:03,448 --> 02:41:05,976 to either put together a film themselves, 3365 02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:09,319 or to get a job directing any film. 3366 02:41:09,343 --> 02:41:12,251 Well come on, baby! 3367 02:41:12,274 --> 02:41:13,700 Light my fire. 3368 02:41:13,724 --> 02:41:16,147 Now it's opened a lot more. 3369 02:41:16,172 --> 02:41:18,286 But we have a lot to ground to make up. 3370 02:41:18,309 --> 02:41:19,906 It was bad. 3371 02:41:19,931 --> 02:41:22,010 We're not as far along as we should be. 3372 02:41:22,033 --> 02:41:23,182 Let's just put it that way. 3373 02:41:23,206 --> 02:41:25,182 We have to get to a point 3374 02:41:25,206 --> 02:41:27,251 where women are not labeled 3375 02:41:27,274 --> 02:41:31,319 as female filmmaker, or like me, 3376 02:41:31,343 --> 02:41:34,112 Mexican-Canadian, blah-blah-blah, filmmaker. 3377 02:41:34,137 --> 02:41:35,354 Like, you can have all the labels. 3378 02:41:35,379 --> 02:41:37,665 My last name's already long enough. 3379 02:41:37,689 --> 02:41:41,147 I just want us to be recognized as a good filmmaker, 3380 02:41:41,172 --> 02:41:44,976 and it's taken all this time to finally get here. 3381 02:41:45,000 --> 02:41:48,665 But it's our responsibility as storytellers 3382 02:41:48,689 --> 02:41:51,976 to challenge audiences, and to challenge studios 3383 02:41:52,000 --> 02:41:52,804 to accept that. 3384 02:41:52,827 --> 02:41:55,448 Welcome to our house! 3385 02:41:57,172 --> 02:41:58,620 Puta! 3386 02:41:59,550 --> 02:42:00,769 We'll keep working hard. 3387 02:42:00,792 --> 02:42:02,527 And we'll keep challenging everybody 3388 02:42:02,550 --> 02:42:05,689 that watches our movies to accept it. 3389 02:42:19,033 --> 02:42:20,871 The Puttermans finally got themselves 3390 02:42:20,896 --> 02:42:24,655 a pet, but they never even had a chance to give it a name. 3391 02:42:25,931 --> 02:42:27,112 "TerrorVision". 3392 02:42:27,137 --> 02:42:28,458 "TerrorVision" was one of the movies we made 3393 02:42:28,481 --> 02:42:30,527 during those amazing three years or so 3394 02:42:30,550 --> 02:42:33,217 at Empire Studios in Rome, Italy. 3395 02:42:33,240 --> 02:42:35,802 That's when that, you know you conceive something, 3396 02:42:35,826 --> 02:42:37,424 you have a great poster, 3397 02:42:37,448 --> 02:42:40,172 and then it morphs into something entirely different. 3398 02:42:47,861 --> 02:42:49,078 It was originally gonna be a straight up horror movie 3399 02:42:49,102 --> 02:42:50,906 that this monster comes out of the TV 3400 02:42:50,931 --> 02:42:52,965 and eats the family. 3401 02:42:54,206 --> 02:42:57,550 But Ted had this kind of strange dark humor, and- 3402 02:43:01,757 --> 02:43:02,665 Whoa! 3403 02:43:02,690 --> 02:43:03,906 I just kind of pondered 3404 02:43:03,931 --> 02:43:06,906 how to make a monster coming out 3405 02:43:06,931 --> 02:43:10,906 of a satellite dish, have some kind of social commentary. 3406 02:43:10,931 --> 02:43:13,043 You must heed my warning! 3407 02:43:13,067 --> 02:43:15,561 Its appetite is insatiable! 3408 02:43:15,585 --> 02:43:17,941 Its curiosity is boundless! 3409 02:43:17,965 --> 02:43:21,424 I had to capture this moment of the 80s 3410 02:43:21,448 --> 02:43:25,896 about the overwhelming garbage of television. 3411 02:43:26,724 --> 02:43:29,458 Channel 69, Pops. 3412 02:43:29,481 --> 02:43:30,976 Stanley! 3413 02:43:31,000 --> 02:43:34,906 Man, it exploded into this technicolor kind of wildness. 3414 02:43:34,931 --> 02:43:36,388 Look out! 3415 02:43:36,413 --> 02:43:38,906 To the film's credit, or maybe its detriment, 3416 02:43:38,931 --> 02:43:41,493 I don't know, I made these characters 3417 02:43:41,516 --> 02:43:43,700 that are sort of really reprehensible. 3418 02:43:43,724 --> 02:43:45,274 My parents wanna meet you. 3419 02:43:46,516 --> 02:43:47,320 Oh, whoa. 3420 02:43:47,344 --> 02:43:49,010 What a drag. 3421 02:43:49,033 --> 02:43:51,906 I wanted our monster in "TerrorVision", Hungry Beast, 3422 02:43:51,931 --> 02:43:54,620 to be a sympathetic character. 3423 02:43:56,757 --> 02:43:59,837 Well, he's just a pet who really couldn't help 3424 02:43:59,861 --> 02:44:01,172 that he was hungry. 3425 02:44:02,861 --> 02:44:05,010 John Buechler and his crew 3426 02:44:05,033 --> 02:44:09,527 were kind of like the Charlie go-to makeup effects people. 3427 02:44:09,550 --> 02:44:13,078 John just looked at me like I was completely insane. 3428 02:44:13,102 --> 02:44:16,319 Once we found the basic design, 3429 02:44:16,343 --> 02:44:17,941 John threw himself into it 3430 02:44:17,965 --> 02:44:20,388 and created this character that is just like 3431 02:44:20,413 --> 02:44:23,217 the most doofus-y looking monster 3432 02:44:23,240 --> 02:44:24,941 that you could imagine. 3433 02:44:24,965 --> 02:44:26,078 No! 3434 02:44:26,102 --> 02:44:28,665 It was big and heavy and hot inside, 3435 02:44:28,689 --> 02:44:31,182 and required five or six puppeteers 3436 02:44:31,206 --> 02:44:33,354 just to make him work, 3437 02:44:33,379 --> 02:44:35,734 and shipping him over to Italy 3438 02:44:35,757 --> 02:44:39,240 must have been just ridiculously expensive. 3439 02:44:41,137 --> 02:44:43,802 ♪ TerrorVision 3440 02:44:43,826 --> 02:44:45,941 That main title theme is just so perfect. 3441 02:44:45,965 --> 02:44:48,112 Sets the time period of the movie, 3442 02:44:48,137 --> 02:44:50,078 sets the tone of the movie. 3443 02:44:50,102 --> 02:44:53,424 We talked to Frank Zappa about doing the score. 3444 02:44:53,448 --> 02:44:55,527 Then I talked to The Cramps. 3445 02:44:55,550 --> 02:45:00,112 But The Fibonaccis, the quirky quality of their music 3446 02:45:00,137 --> 02:45:03,172 was perfect for the main title song. 3447 02:45:04,585 --> 02:45:06,802 ♪ TerrorVision 3448 02:45:06,826 --> 02:45:09,251 My favorite sequence of "TerrorVision" 3449 02:45:09,274 --> 02:45:13,010 is the creature is sitting in the big hot tub 3450 02:45:13,033 --> 02:45:16,527 watching "Earth Versus Flying Saucers" on TV, 3451 02:45:16,550 --> 02:45:19,561 and laughing uproariously as flying saucers 3452 02:45:19,585 --> 02:45:21,896 smash into the monuments. 3453 02:45:25,931 --> 02:45:29,309 The kids come in and try to kill it. 3454 02:45:32,861 --> 02:45:34,630 That little sequence there, to me, 3455 02:45:34,655 --> 02:45:38,137 kind of captures the chaos and the humor. 3456 02:45:41,274 --> 02:45:42,112 Sis! 3457 02:45:42,137 --> 02:45:43,137 Sis! 3458 02:45:45,000 --> 02:45:47,217 I was so pleased that it came out 3459 02:45:47,240 --> 02:45:48,424 as well as it did. 3460 02:45:48,448 --> 02:45:50,112 And then when it went into the theaters 3461 02:45:50,137 --> 02:45:51,837 for its one week run, 3462 02:45:51,861 --> 02:45:53,906 it was a fucking disaster. 3463 02:45:53,931 --> 02:45:55,217 Nobody came. 3464 02:45:55,240 --> 02:45:57,147 The reviews just hated it. 3465 02:45:57,172 --> 02:45:59,630 Man, this is the dumbest movie I ever saw! 3466 02:45:59,655 --> 02:46:01,078 What a bunch of crud. 3467 02:46:01,102 --> 02:46:04,043 But over the years, it's been really satisfying 3468 02:46:04,067 --> 02:46:06,182 to see how it became kind of like a 3469 02:46:06,206 --> 02:46:08,043 let's get stoned and watch this film, 3470 02:46:08,067 --> 02:46:11,837 and that's like kind of what it was intended to be. 3471 02:46:11,861 --> 02:46:14,837 I'm really happy that it's reached as many people 3472 02:46:14,861 --> 02:46:16,000 as it has. 3473 02:46:28,724 --> 02:46:30,665 In "Rats: Notte di Terrore", which is 3474 02:46:30,689 --> 02:46:33,941 "Rats: Night of Terror", ragtag band of survivors 3475 02:46:33,965 --> 02:46:37,493 after the last apocalypse are searching for food and water 3476 02:46:37,516 --> 02:46:39,112 in a no man's land. 3477 02:46:39,137 --> 02:46:40,906 They would find evolution has taken 3478 02:46:40,931 --> 02:46:42,655 a pretty nasty turn. 3479 02:46:48,379 --> 02:46:49,802 This is a really low budget movie, 3480 02:46:49,826 --> 02:46:52,837 and it's the first movie where I'm a lead. 3481 02:46:52,861 --> 02:46:54,458 It was only a gag. 3482 02:46:54,481 --> 02:46:55,941 Listen up. 3483 02:46:55,965 --> 02:46:57,734 Gags we don't need. 3484 02:46:57,757 --> 02:46:59,976 Any more and I'll blow your fucking brains out. 3485 02:47:00,000 --> 02:47:01,217 Get it? 3486 02:47:01,240 --> 02:47:04,078 They actually had cast my roommate at the time 3487 02:47:04,102 --> 02:47:05,354 to play my role. 3488 02:47:05,379 --> 02:47:07,561 Completely different type, American girl. 3489 02:47:07,585 --> 02:47:08,941 She's got red hair. 3490 02:47:08,965 --> 02:47:10,424 Completely different girl. 3491 02:47:10,448 --> 02:47:12,826 The budget was so low, she goes I'm not doing that. 3492 02:47:14,000 --> 02:47:15,896 Somehow I guess they heard I would. 3493 02:47:22,033 --> 02:47:23,424 Oh my god! 3494 02:47:23,448 --> 02:47:24,458 I won't even tell you 3495 02:47:24,481 --> 02:47:25,493 what I got paid per week. 3496 02:47:25,516 --> 02:47:26,595 That's how low it was. 3497 02:47:26,620 --> 02:47:28,067 They were paying you by week. 3498 02:47:29,000 --> 02:47:31,010 Not Diana, no! 3499 02:47:31,033 --> 02:47:32,319 The script was in Italian. 3500 02:47:32,343 --> 02:47:34,182 But I did my role in English. 3501 02:47:34,206 --> 02:47:36,941 And then that movie, everyone with the exception 3502 02:47:36,965 --> 02:47:38,769 of maybe two people, could speak English. 3503 02:47:38,792 --> 02:47:41,458 And then everyone else would be dubbed around it. 3504 02:47:41,481 --> 02:47:43,561 You made a bet with me and you lost, Chocolate. 3505 02:47:43,585 --> 02:47:45,010 You know it. 3506 02:47:45,033 --> 02:47:46,561 Put it on my bill. 3507 02:47:46,585 --> 02:47:47,976 Tonight I don't feel like it. 3508 02:47:48,000 --> 02:47:50,700 Now here's a fun thing about the set. 3509 02:47:50,724 --> 02:47:52,630 It's actually Sergio Leone's 3510 02:47:52,655 --> 02:47:55,286 old America from "One Upon a Time in America". 3511 02:47:55,309 --> 02:47:58,043 All the saloons, and all the stores they're going in. 3512 02:47:58,067 --> 02:47:59,354 It's the same set. 3513 02:47:59,379 --> 02:48:01,493 Mere weeks before, De Niro was in town, 3514 02:48:01,516 --> 02:48:02,976 and he was everywhere. 3515 02:48:03,000 --> 02:48:03,941 You could see him anywhere, and they were doing that. 3516 02:48:03,966 --> 02:48:05,251 And then we got to use the set. 3517 02:48:05,274 --> 02:48:07,837 Here's where my four-legged friend came from. 3518 02:48:07,861 --> 02:48:09,078 Look. 3519 02:48:09,102 --> 02:48:10,527 There's a whole nest of the sweet little things. 3520 02:48:10,550 --> 02:48:12,630 We don't have any actual rats in the movie. 3521 02:48:12,655 --> 02:48:13,837 We have lab mice. 3522 02:48:13,861 --> 02:48:15,802 Because only lab mice have the red eyes. 3523 02:48:15,826 --> 02:48:17,217 They dyed all of their hair. 3524 02:48:17,240 --> 02:48:18,941 It was a different time, a different era. 3525 02:48:18,965 --> 02:48:21,458 I wouldn't say that all of them were treated 3526 02:48:21,481 --> 02:48:22,802 the way we would do it now, 3527 02:48:22,826 --> 02:48:23,770 but we weren't going around 3528 02:48:23,793 --> 02:48:25,481 stomping on them, or anything. 3529 02:48:27,585 --> 02:48:29,769 And as you see the movie, there's real no CGI. 3530 02:48:29,792 --> 02:48:31,734 You can tell we got rubber rats 3531 02:48:31,757 --> 02:48:33,274 on the roller, you know? 3532 02:48:35,309 --> 02:48:37,665 The movie was so low budget, 3533 02:48:37,689 --> 02:48:39,354 they recycled the dead ones 3534 02:48:39,379 --> 02:48:42,147 to throw on us in the other scenes. 3535 02:48:42,172 --> 02:48:44,388 I've been on some smelly sets before. 3536 02:48:44,413 --> 02:48:45,630 But you've never been on a set 3537 02:48:45,655 --> 02:48:47,734 that's been housing a garbage can that big 3538 02:48:47,757 --> 02:48:49,137 of dead rats. 3539 02:48:50,309 --> 02:48:52,561 Suddenly they're gassed, and they die. 3540 02:48:52,585 --> 02:48:55,286 And in the most feminine faint in history, 3541 02:48:55,309 --> 02:48:58,240 I kind of faint like this. 3542 02:48:59,240 --> 02:49:00,871 It was a good beginning. 3543 02:49:00,896 --> 02:49:03,147 If you haven't seen the movie before, 3544 02:49:03,172 --> 02:49:06,251 pay great attention to the last scene. 3545 02:49:06,274 --> 02:49:08,941 And if you have seen the movie before, 3546 02:49:08,965 --> 02:49:10,217 here's the hint. 3547 02:49:10,240 --> 02:49:12,286 That's a split scene. 3548 02:49:12,309 --> 02:49:14,000 And I played both characters. 3549 02:49:27,550 --> 02:49:32,147 The terror starts the moment you stop 3550 02:49:32,172 --> 02:49:33,319 for "The Hitcher". 3551 02:49:33,343 --> 02:49:36,043 It's a straightforward thriller 3552 02:49:36,067 --> 02:49:38,481 that grips you and never lets go. 3553 02:49:45,931 --> 02:49:48,527 Tobe Hooper used to say horror films 3554 02:49:48,550 --> 02:49:49,976 are the new westerns. 3555 02:49:50,000 --> 02:49:54,251 Their mythology is all about trying to reconcile 3556 02:49:54,274 --> 02:49:57,112 the evil within oneself, the evil within a society, 3557 02:49:57,137 --> 02:49:58,665 the evil of a certain act, 3558 02:49:58,689 --> 02:50:01,493 with those who want to correct it, fix it, 3559 02:50:01,516 --> 02:50:03,595 fight it, avenge it. 3560 02:50:03,620 --> 02:50:05,976 Don't you know who he is? 3561 02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:07,724 You got the wrong man, Lyle. 3562 02:50:09,137 --> 02:50:11,595 The monster in the film is not a guy in a mask, 3563 02:50:11,620 --> 02:50:16,620 but he is exactly like Jason, Leatherface, Michael Meyers. 3564 02:50:17,826 --> 02:50:20,319 He's simply hitching a ride in the rain. 3565 02:50:20,343 --> 02:50:24,941 And this horrific story ensues. 3566 02:50:24,965 --> 02:50:27,527 You wanna know what happens to an eyeball 3567 02:50:27,550 --> 02:50:28,896 when it gets punctured? 3568 02:50:30,240 --> 02:50:32,802 The movie truly only has three characters, 3569 02:50:32,826 --> 02:50:34,561 and I love that economy. 3570 02:50:34,585 --> 02:50:37,217 It has C. Thomas Howell, Jennifer Jason Leigh, 3571 02:50:37,240 --> 02:50:39,000 and Rutger Hauer. 3572 02:50:40,379 --> 02:50:42,354 He's one of the scariest human beings 3573 02:50:42,379 --> 02:50:43,976 on the fucking planet. 3574 02:50:44,000 --> 02:50:46,561 His presence fills the screen. 3575 02:50:46,585 --> 02:50:47,724 That gun is empty. 3576 02:50:48,931 --> 02:50:49,931 Yeah? 3577 02:50:50,620 --> 02:50:51,494 Yeah. 3578 02:50:51,518 --> 02:50:52,734 Yeah? 3579 02:50:52,757 --> 02:50:55,217 It's a film about being paranoid, 3580 02:50:55,240 --> 02:50:57,941 and knowing something really bad is happening, 3581 02:50:57,965 --> 02:51:00,620 but nobody will believe you. 3582 02:51:01,448 --> 02:51:02,448 Jesus! 3583 02:51:03,826 --> 02:51:04,630 Oh my god. 3584 02:51:04,655 --> 02:51:05,458 He put that there! 3585 02:51:05,481 --> 02:51:06,481 He put that there! 3586 02:51:07,724 --> 02:51:10,078 To this day, when I'm eating fries, 3587 02:51:10,102 --> 02:51:13,769 I always look at the fry that I'm eating. 3588 02:51:13,792 --> 02:51:15,769 He's eating, and he gets there, and it's a finger, 3589 02:51:15,792 --> 02:51:16,595 and you're like, fuck! 3590 02:51:16,620 --> 02:51:17,620 It's a finger! 3591 02:51:22,689 --> 02:51:24,424 They've got the girlfriend connected, 3592 02:51:24,448 --> 02:51:26,516 chained up between the two trucks. 3593 02:51:27,343 --> 02:51:28,527 Do something! 3594 02:51:28,550 --> 02:51:29,976 If we shoot him, his foot is gonna come 3595 02:51:30,000 --> 02:51:32,286 off that clutch, and that truck is gonna roll! 3596 02:51:32,309 --> 02:51:34,802 And he just looks at C. Thomas Howell, 3597 02:51:34,826 --> 02:51:39,000 and there's that moment of, is he gonna let her go? 3598 02:51:43,448 --> 02:51:44,871 TriStar released "The Hitcher", 3599 02:51:44,896 --> 02:51:47,112 and they were a little skittish about the script stuff, 3600 02:51:47,137 --> 02:51:49,871 is because in 1984, the last horror movie they released 3601 02:51:49,896 --> 02:51:51,147 was "Silent Night Deadly Night". 3602 02:51:51,172 --> 02:51:52,976 And that only had a two week run, 3603 02:51:53,000 --> 02:51:54,976 and it was protested out of theaters. 3604 02:51:55,000 --> 02:51:57,112 So taking a chance on a movie like "The Hitcher", 3605 02:51:57,137 --> 02:51:58,424 they saw this script, and they were like 3606 02:51:58,448 --> 02:52:00,137 remove the slasher elements. 3607 02:52:01,240 --> 02:52:02,240 Figure it out. 3608 02:52:03,274 --> 02:52:06,769 "The Hitcher" was in that crossover period 3609 02:52:06,792 --> 02:52:08,424 where things were starting to get 3610 02:52:08,448 --> 02:52:10,665 a little bit less splattery. 3611 02:52:10,689 --> 02:52:13,319 Style, that 80s video style, 3612 02:52:13,343 --> 02:52:15,976 was starting to permeate thrillers. 3613 02:52:16,000 --> 02:52:17,319 Directed by Robert Harmon, 3614 02:52:17,343 --> 02:52:18,320 written by Eric Red, 3615 02:52:18,344 --> 02:52:19,561 who also wrote "Near Dark", 3616 02:52:19,585 --> 02:52:22,319 which is another example of that stylized 3617 02:52:22,343 --> 02:52:23,424 horror movie making. 3618 02:52:23,448 --> 02:52:24,481 Where are you from? 3619 02:52:29,000 --> 02:52:30,182 Disneyland. 3620 02:52:30,206 --> 02:52:32,388 The late great Rutger Hauer. 3621 02:52:32,413 --> 02:52:34,665 I could do a complete dissertation 3622 02:52:34,689 --> 02:52:38,413 on just how fucking unappreciated he was. 3623 02:52:40,655 --> 02:52:42,700 No! 3624 02:52:42,724 --> 02:52:46,769 He could have been the head of every horror family ever. 3625 02:52:46,792 --> 02:52:51,689 You useless waste. 3626 02:52:55,413 --> 02:52:57,481 So good. 3627 02:53:03,137 --> 02:53:05,561 Something fantastic in the 1980s 3628 02:53:05,585 --> 02:53:06,700 happened where they were like 3629 02:53:06,724 --> 02:53:08,976 "Gremlins", "Critters", "Ghoulies". 3630 02:53:09,000 --> 02:53:11,906 There are tiny creatures, they are going to take over, 3631 02:53:11,931 --> 02:53:13,000 and I'm into it. 3632 02:53:15,516 --> 02:53:16,757 "Critters". 3633 02:53:17,585 --> 02:53:18,734 They bite. 3634 02:53:18,757 --> 02:53:21,112 People kept trashing "Critters" 3635 02:53:21,137 --> 02:53:24,274 for being a bad cheap imitation of "Gremlins". 3636 02:53:26,067 --> 02:53:28,078 They're not the same movie. 3637 02:53:28,102 --> 02:53:32,000 No, the critters are fucking gonna eat you alive, man. 3638 02:53:37,931 --> 02:53:41,251 It's attitude with an emphasis on the drama. 3639 02:53:41,274 --> 02:53:42,595 I didn't even do nothing. 3640 02:53:42,620 --> 02:53:45,561 Boy, you shot her with a slingshot. 3641 02:53:45,585 --> 02:53:48,354 It's really just the way Stephen Herek approached it, 3642 02:53:48,379 --> 02:53:49,734 and took it seriously. 3643 02:53:49,757 --> 02:53:51,424 We want the Krites. 3644 02:53:51,448 --> 02:53:52,630 Oh really? 3645 02:53:52,655 --> 02:53:55,458 Who are they, some new team? 3646 02:53:55,481 --> 02:53:57,837 It acts like a studio movie, 3647 02:53:57,861 --> 02:54:00,481 and it's a $2 million little independent. 3648 02:54:02,931 --> 02:54:05,182 I love the little country family, 3649 02:54:05,206 --> 02:54:08,137 completely innocent of everything. 3650 02:54:14,689 --> 02:54:17,102 And boy, Dee Wallace gives it her best. 3651 02:54:21,448 --> 02:54:23,343 Get out of my house! 3652 02:54:24,585 --> 02:54:26,343 We had so much fun on "Critters". 3653 02:54:27,481 --> 02:54:30,043 I loved working with Stephen Herek. 3654 02:54:30,067 --> 02:54:32,424 He was so easy to work with. 3655 02:54:32,448 --> 02:54:34,043 Always knew what he wanted. 3656 02:54:34,067 --> 02:54:35,630 And it was a tough shoot, 3657 02:54:35,655 --> 02:54:38,379 because we worked mostly nights. 3658 02:54:45,550 --> 02:54:47,424 The creature designs in "Critters" 3659 02:54:47,448 --> 02:54:50,516 I remember thinking were really funny when I was a kid. 3660 02:54:52,826 --> 02:54:57,826 Little creepy yet adorable balls of spikiness, 3661 02:54:59,172 --> 02:55:01,354 and they have really terrifying eyes and teeth, 3662 02:55:01,379 --> 02:55:03,965 but that's what made them so fun. 3663 02:55:08,481 --> 02:55:11,078 The Chiodo brothers of "Killer Klowns from Outer Space" 3664 02:55:11,102 --> 02:55:13,585 fame created the Krites in "Critters". 3665 02:55:15,033 --> 02:55:17,630 With "Critters" there is an element where you are scared 3666 02:55:17,655 --> 02:55:19,319 because you don't know what's gonna happen. 3667 02:55:19,343 --> 02:55:21,976 They just seem in it to destroy things 3668 02:55:22,000 --> 02:55:23,067 and kill people. 3669 02:55:25,067 --> 02:55:27,700 They didn't have the big critter finished. 3670 02:55:27,724 --> 02:55:30,665 That's why in that one scene, you only see his eyes 3671 02:55:30,689 --> 02:55:32,757 coming up through the window. 3672 02:55:37,931 --> 02:55:40,630 It was hard to stay in the fear 3673 02:55:40,655 --> 02:55:42,354 and everything that we had to do 3674 02:55:42,379 --> 02:55:43,595 because it was pretty funny. 3675 02:55:43,620 --> 02:55:46,458 We would be ready to do this hysterical scene, 3676 02:55:46,481 --> 02:55:49,043 and Stephen would go okay, roll them in. 3677 02:55:49,067 --> 02:55:52,388 Just roll the little balls 3678 02:55:52,413 --> 02:55:54,379 across the set. 3679 02:55:58,067 --> 02:56:01,458 I did not have anything to do with the Krite and E.T. scene. 3680 02:56:01,481 --> 02:56:02,700 Nothing. 3681 02:56:02,724 --> 02:56:04,769 And the fans that are really fans 3682 02:56:04,792 --> 02:56:06,217 that are really knowledgeable, 3683 02:56:06,240 --> 02:56:08,941 they just get off on all that stuff, and it's great. 3684 02:56:08,965 --> 02:56:11,769 I think it's wonderful that directors 3685 02:56:11,792 --> 02:56:15,206 throw in all those cross references. 3686 02:56:19,000 --> 02:56:19,907 A lot of people make horror movies 3687 02:56:19,932 --> 02:56:21,976 just because it's the easiest, 3688 02:56:22,000 --> 02:56:24,078 or what they think will be the easiest 3689 02:56:24,102 --> 02:56:27,561 stepping stone to a career or a paycheck or something. 3690 02:56:27,585 --> 02:56:29,802 But there's a lot of love and craft in that movie 3691 02:56:29,826 --> 02:56:31,550 that I really appreciate. 3692 02:56:44,585 --> 02:56:47,665 "Manhunter". 3693 02:56:47,689 --> 02:56:50,251 "Manhunter"'s based off the novel "Red Dragon" 3694 02:56:50,274 --> 02:56:53,561 by Thomas Harris, who also made "Silence of the Lambs", 3695 02:56:53,585 --> 02:56:55,630 and just like with "Silence of the Lambs", 3696 02:56:55,655 --> 02:56:57,630 this is a movie that critics have to refer to 3697 02:56:57,655 --> 02:56:59,665 as a thriller rather than a horror movie 3698 02:56:59,689 --> 02:57:01,792 so they're allowed to like it. 3699 02:57:04,896 --> 02:57:07,319 The movie is about a killer named the Tooth Fairy 3700 02:57:07,343 --> 02:57:08,665 who bites people's faces. 3701 02:57:08,689 --> 02:57:10,448 You can't call this a horror movie? 3702 02:57:11,792 --> 02:57:12,792 Give a kiss. 3703 02:57:17,379 --> 02:57:19,734 William Peterson plays a detective, Will Graham, 3704 02:57:19,757 --> 02:57:21,595 who's investigating murders being committed 3705 02:57:21,620 --> 02:57:23,769 by this killer, who we later learn is this guy 3706 02:57:23,792 --> 02:57:25,458 called Francis Dollarhyde, 3707 02:57:25,481 --> 02:57:27,871 and the reason the novel was called "Red Dragon" 3708 02:57:27,896 --> 02:57:31,010 is because Dollarhyde worships this painting 3709 02:57:31,033 --> 02:57:33,802 called the Red Dragon, and identifies himself 3710 02:57:33,826 --> 02:57:35,147 as the Red Dragon. 3711 02:57:35,172 --> 02:57:36,941 You will lie awake in fear 3712 02:57:36,965 --> 02:57:39,112 of what the Red Dragon will do. 3713 02:57:39,137 --> 02:57:41,458 Francis Dollarhyde's played by Tom Noonan 3714 02:57:41,481 --> 02:57:44,182 who also played Frankenstein in "The Monster Squad", 3715 02:57:44,206 --> 02:57:47,976 and he's a very, very effectively creepy villain. 3716 02:57:48,000 --> 02:57:49,665 He's up there with Buffalo Bill 3717 02:57:49,689 --> 02:57:51,976 from "Silence of the Lambs", in my opinion. 3718 02:57:52,000 --> 02:57:53,734 Put the fucking lotion in the basket! 3719 02:57:53,757 --> 02:57:56,147 As a testament to how scary Tom Noonan is, 3720 02:57:56,172 --> 02:57:58,769 he can wear pantyhose over half of his face 3721 02:57:58,792 --> 02:58:01,388 like he's Howie Mandel trying to blow up a glove 3722 02:58:01,413 --> 02:58:03,493 with his nose, and still be scary. 3723 02:58:03,516 --> 02:58:06,067 Well, here I am. 3724 02:58:08,240 --> 02:58:10,424 This was the very first screen appearance 3725 02:58:10,448 --> 02:58:12,217 of Hannibal Lecktor, except this time 3726 02:58:12,240 --> 02:58:15,689 he's played by Brian Cox, not Anthony Hopkins. 3727 02:58:16,896 --> 02:58:19,976 And Cox as Lecktor is a lot more subdued 3728 02:58:20,000 --> 02:58:22,665 than Anthony Hopkins, but he still has 3729 02:58:22,689 --> 02:58:24,802 this quiet menace about him. 3730 02:58:24,826 --> 02:58:28,010 Would you like to leave me your home phone number? 3731 02:58:28,033 --> 02:58:30,561 Even if he seems to be cooperating with you, 3732 02:58:30,585 --> 02:58:32,147 he still never really lets you know 3733 02:58:32,172 --> 02:58:33,941 what his true intentions are, 3734 02:58:33,965 --> 02:58:36,665 but you can be rest assured that they're not good, 3735 02:58:36,689 --> 02:58:38,595 and he's smarter than you are. 3736 02:58:38,620 --> 02:58:39,528 I know that I'm not smarter than you. 3737 02:58:39,551 --> 02:58:40,871 Then how did you catch me? 3738 02:58:40,896 --> 02:58:42,286 You had disadvantages. 3739 02:58:42,309 --> 02:58:43,561 What disadvantages? 3740 02:58:43,585 --> 02:58:44,700 You're insane. 3741 02:58:44,724 --> 02:58:46,217 At this point, Michael Mann was famous 3742 02:58:46,240 --> 02:58:47,769 for the series Miami Vice, 3743 02:58:47,792 --> 02:58:49,976 and this movie uses a lot of the same 3744 02:58:50,000 --> 02:58:53,274 color scheme, a lot of the same use of music. 3745 02:58:57,033 --> 02:59:00,043 In a way, this could almost be like a really scary 3746 02:59:00,067 --> 02:59:01,837 extended episode of Miami Vice, 3747 02:59:01,861 --> 02:59:03,837 and I think that kind of ended up overshadowing 3748 02:59:03,861 --> 02:59:05,550 the movie a little bit. 3749 02:59:16,826 --> 02:59:21,010 Wes Craven, a very groundbreaking filmmaker, 3750 02:59:21,033 --> 02:59:22,424 whenever his name was on a film, 3751 02:59:22,448 --> 02:59:24,906 I would always either go and see it or rent it. 3752 02:59:24,931 --> 02:59:27,595 He definitely had a shaky track record. 3753 02:59:27,620 --> 02:59:30,112 But it seemed like he was always looking 3754 02:59:30,137 --> 02:59:32,413 to find something that would catch on. 3755 02:59:33,931 --> 02:59:36,630 He was always doing these very interesting stories 3756 02:59:36,655 --> 02:59:40,458 about how kids were dealing with a lot 3757 02:59:40,481 --> 02:59:42,906 in terms of their family dynamics, and things like that, 3758 02:59:42,931 --> 02:59:45,424 and we see that especially in the movie "Deadly Friend". 3759 02:59:45,448 --> 02:59:47,620 "Deadly Friend". 3760 02:59:48,757 --> 02:59:52,424 She can't live without you. 3761 02:59:52,448 --> 02:59:56,802 "Deadly Friend" was adapted from a story called "Friend". 3762 02:59:56,826 --> 02:59:58,837 They were trying to make this love story. 3763 02:59:58,861 --> 03:00:00,354 A little bit of science fiction element, 3764 03:00:00,379 --> 03:00:03,010 little bit of action, little bit of horror. 3765 03:00:03,033 --> 03:00:04,251 We're pretty close approaching 3766 03:00:04,274 --> 03:00:05,976 the way a normal human brain works. 3767 03:00:06,000 --> 03:00:07,837 "Deadly Friend" is about a guy named Paul 3768 03:00:07,861 --> 03:00:09,286 who is a genius. 3769 03:00:09,309 --> 03:00:12,067 He's created this robot friend named BB, 3770 03:00:13,481 --> 03:00:16,010 a robot with super strength who thinks for himself, 3771 03:00:16,033 --> 03:00:18,734 and has emotions, and feels things. 3772 03:00:18,757 --> 03:00:20,527 What could go wrong with that kind of strength? 3773 03:00:20,550 --> 03:00:22,448 Well, turns out everything. 3774 03:00:23,413 --> 03:00:25,010 I'm side eyeing this robot here, 3775 03:00:25,033 --> 03:00:26,700 because that robot's a killer 3776 03:00:26,724 --> 03:00:29,413 just waiting for an excuse to kill. 3777 03:00:30,655 --> 03:00:32,976 Sam was played by Kristy Swanson, 3778 03:00:33,000 --> 03:00:35,240 who we love her as the original Buffy. 3779 03:00:36,826 --> 03:00:38,424 Dad just will beat her, 3780 03:00:38,448 --> 03:00:40,274 which is terrible. 3781 03:00:41,826 --> 03:00:43,976 He yells at her, and then throws her down the stairs. 3782 03:00:44,000 --> 03:00:45,700 You whiny little bitch! 3783 03:00:45,724 --> 03:00:46,724 Ow! 3784 03:00:49,620 --> 03:00:50,802 She dies. 3785 03:00:50,826 --> 03:00:53,010 Paul's like, I think I can save her. 3786 03:00:53,033 --> 03:00:55,286 You're giving her a robot brain? 3787 03:00:55,309 --> 03:00:56,550 Giving her a computer. 3788 03:00:57,724 --> 03:00:59,217 It's a battery powered self-contained computer. 3789 03:00:59,240 --> 03:01:02,043 So now he has a robot's brain 3790 03:01:02,067 --> 03:01:05,010 in a human girl's body, but she's dead, 3791 03:01:05,033 --> 03:01:06,700 so he has to hide her, or else she's walking around, 3792 03:01:06,724 --> 03:01:08,217 she's a zombie, right? 3793 03:01:08,240 --> 03:01:09,734 And then it all goes badly, and I'm glad it goes badly, 3794 03:01:09,757 --> 03:01:11,388 because it would be weird if it didn't go badly. 3795 03:01:11,413 --> 03:01:14,976 She sort of becomes this very interesting 3796 03:01:15,000 --> 03:01:16,941 kind of totem, in a way. 3797 03:01:16,965 --> 03:01:19,354 How she's able to right the wrongs 3798 03:01:19,379 --> 03:01:20,630 of the way that she's been treated, 3799 03:01:20,655 --> 03:01:22,585 the way other people have been treated. 3800 03:01:27,172 --> 03:01:28,769 Elvira, played by Ann Ramsey. 3801 03:01:28,792 --> 03:01:32,217 She's that gun-toting get off my lawn 3802 03:01:32,240 --> 03:01:35,251 times 40 Karen that you could meet, right? 3803 03:01:35,274 --> 03:01:36,630 Who's out there? 3804 03:01:36,655 --> 03:01:37,563 What are you doing? 3805 03:01:37,586 --> 03:01:39,734 It's just me, Ms. Parker! 3806 03:01:39,757 --> 03:01:41,010 What is that? 3807 03:01:41,033 --> 03:01:41,872 BB! 3808 03:01:41,897 --> 03:01:43,354 But we love her. 3809 03:01:43,379 --> 03:01:44,976 We love Ann Ramsey from "Throw Mama From the Train", 3810 03:01:45,000 --> 03:01:46,286 and from "Goonies". 3811 03:01:46,309 --> 03:01:50,837 We love her in that mean scary woman character. 3812 03:01:50,861 --> 03:01:52,585 Damn kids. 3813 03:01:53,481 --> 03:01:54,459 BB picks up the ball, 3814 03:01:54,483 --> 03:01:56,319 and throws it at Elvira's head, 3815 03:01:56,343 --> 03:01:58,448 and her whole head explodes. 3816 03:02:02,000 --> 03:02:05,665 The whole head goes 3817 03:02:05,689 --> 03:02:08,274 That's my favorite kill of the movie. 3818 03:02:10,655 --> 03:02:11,871 When they had the movie together, 3819 03:02:11,896 --> 03:02:14,010 a studio watched it, and they said, no. 3820 03:02:14,033 --> 03:02:16,871 This needs more violence. 3821 03:02:16,896 --> 03:02:18,458 It needs to be gory. 3822 03:02:18,481 --> 03:02:20,837 Because they're under contract with the studio, 3823 03:02:20,861 --> 03:02:23,319 they went back and shot gore scenes. 3824 03:02:23,343 --> 03:02:25,458 Then they were told it was too much. 3825 03:02:25,481 --> 03:02:27,043 They needed to be trimmed. 3826 03:02:27,067 --> 03:02:31,769 So the creativeness is pulled back from Wes Craven. 3827 03:02:31,792 --> 03:02:33,976 Another movie where everybody had fun. 3828 03:02:34,000 --> 03:02:35,620 But I don't think Wes Craven did. 3829 03:02:51,379 --> 03:02:53,147 ♪ Rock and roll 3830 03:02:53,172 --> 03:02:54,561 "Trick or Treat". 3831 03:02:54,585 --> 03:02:57,931 The ultimate rock and roll horror movie. 3832 03:03:02,448 --> 03:03:05,802 The perfect mixture of the mythos 3833 03:03:05,826 --> 03:03:09,078 behind the heavy metal culture in the 80s. 3834 03:03:09,102 --> 03:03:13,286 Just a great misfit in high school story, 3835 03:03:13,309 --> 03:03:15,700 which I totally related to. 3836 03:03:15,724 --> 03:03:16,837 All right, so "Trick or Treat". 3837 03:03:16,861 --> 03:03:19,458 You had Ozzy Osborne, Gene Simmons, 3838 03:03:19,481 --> 03:03:21,286 and Skippy from Family Ties. 3839 03:03:21,309 --> 03:03:23,802 One of these things is not like the other. 3840 03:03:23,826 --> 03:03:25,734 Rockstar Sammi Curr, 3841 03:03:25,757 --> 03:03:27,343 victim of a hotel fire. 3842 03:03:28,516 --> 03:03:30,527 Dead at age 38. 3843 03:03:30,550 --> 03:03:33,561 A rockstar dies, and then this evil something or other 3844 03:03:33,585 --> 03:03:35,319 comes back as a rockstar. 3845 03:03:35,343 --> 03:03:37,837 I knew that "Trick or Treat" was just candy. 3846 03:03:37,861 --> 03:03:40,561 It tastes sweet and then it goes away. 3847 03:03:40,585 --> 03:03:42,976 It's a story of Ragman. 3848 03:03:43,000 --> 03:03:44,595 He is picked on, he's bullied 3849 03:03:44,620 --> 03:03:46,665 by pretty much everybody. 3850 03:03:46,689 --> 03:03:48,906 I wanna nail every one of those bastards! 3851 03:03:48,931 --> 03:03:51,319 I don't know how, I don't know when, 3852 03:03:51,343 --> 03:03:52,976 but I'm gonna nail them. 3853 03:03:53,000 --> 03:03:54,630 His hero is Sammi Curr, 3854 03:03:54,655 --> 03:03:58,700 who is demonic, dark, in your face. 3855 03:03:58,724 --> 03:04:00,700 He ends up killing himself in a ritual, 3856 03:04:00,724 --> 03:04:02,112 setting himself on fire. 3857 03:04:02,137 --> 03:04:06,976 His soul gets trapped in the acetate demo 3858 03:04:07,000 --> 03:04:09,388 that Gene Simmons has. 3859 03:04:09,413 --> 03:04:10,700 This is very cool. 3860 03:04:10,724 --> 03:04:12,802 And then when you play it backwards, 3861 03:04:12,826 --> 03:04:14,802 he comes back from the dead. 3862 03:04:14,826 --> 03:04:15,826 You. 3863 03:04:17,757 --> 03:04:20,286 Great cameos by Gene, 3864 03:04:20,309 --> 03:04:24,458 and then Ozzy as the Bible thumping PMRC minister. 3865 03:04:24,481 --> 03:04:27,481 These evil people have just got to be stopped. 3866 03:04:30,206 --> 03:04:33,033 And it's just so off the hook. 3867 03:04:35,343 --> 03:04:37,078 They were looking at a lot of different rock stars 3868 03:04:37,102 --> 03:04:38,700 to play Sammi Curr. 3869 03:04:38,724 --> 03:04:39,861 Eddie. 3870 03:04:41,620 --> 03:04:42,871 We had a deal. 3871 03:04:42,896 --> 03:04:45,010 I didn't wanna be this guy with leather studs. 3872 03:04:45,033 --> 03:04:47,665 I was much more interested in the DJ. 3873 03:04:47,689 --> 03:04:50,458 It's party time, yeah! 3874 03:04:50,481 --> 03:04:51,734 This is the old Nooser coming at ya 3875 03:04:51,757 --> 03:04:55,010 right here on this fine, fine Rocktober morning. 3876 03:04:55,033 --> 03:04:56,595 It's the sweeping sensation, 3877 03:04:56,620 --> 03:04:59,319 like patterned after Wolfman Jack, 3878 03:04:59,343 --> 03:05:00,976 who was a DJ at the time. 3879 03:05:01,000 --> 03:05:03,182 I just had two or three weeks off between a tour, 3880 03:05:03,206 --> 03:05:05,078 and wound up doing it. 3881 03:05:05,102 --> 03:05:06,493 Eh, Ragman! 3882 03:05:06,516 --> 03:05:08,976 I remember I was so excited to meet him. 3883 03:05:09,000 --> 03:05:11,595 I said to him, hey Gene Simmons, 3884 03:05:11,620 --> 03:05:13,010 can you do the thing with the tongue? 3885 03:05:13,033 --> 03:05:15,976 And he said no, I only do that for girls. 3886 03:05:16,000 --> 03:05:17,527 Tony Fields was genuinely scary 3887 03:05:17,550 --> 03:05:18,585 playing Sammi Curr. 3888 03:05:20,413 --> 03:05:21,630 Hiya, bud. 3889 03:05:21,655 --> 03:05:23,043 Boy, he got that rockstar stuff down. 3890 03:05:23,067 --> 03:05:25,976 He could dance and sing and move with the guitar 3891 03:05:26,000 --> 03:05:27,217 and jump off the stage, 3892 03:05:27,240 --> 03:05:29,147 and capable of so much, 3893 03:05:29,172 --> 03:05:31,206 and we lost him way too young. 3894 03:05:34,137 --> 03:05:37,217 The film script was funnier and darker. 3895 03:05:37,240 --> 03:05:41,354 I think what we ended up with was something in the middle. 3896 03:05:41,379 --> 03:05:43,493 Charlie Martin Smith was directing for the first time, 3897 03:05:43,516 --> 03:05:45,319 "Trick or Treat", that was his first time. 3898 03:05:45,343 --> 03:05:47,665 We had a kinship, a nerd-like kinship, 3899 03:05:47,689 --> 03:05:50,354 that other directors might not have picked me. 3900 03:05:50,379 --> 03:05:51,458 I have to be honest with you. 3901 03:05:51,481 --> 03:05:53,102 Keanu Reeves was up for it. 3902 03:05:57,655 --> 03:05:58,871 The gore is great, the kills are great. 3903 03:05:58,896 --> 03:06:01,458 When he yanks the old lady through the TV, 3904 03:06:01,481 --> 03:06:03,976 and she just immediately turns to dust. 3905 03:06:04,000 --> 03:06:06,217 Uh, what the shit just happened, dude? 3906 03:06:06,240 --> 03:06:08,000 This is insane. 3907 03:06:10,102 --> 03:06:11,769 We were blessed to get Kevin Yagher 3908 03:06:11,792 --> 03:06:14,413 to do the special effects and the makeup in the film. 3909 03:06:16,067 --> 03:06:17,941 It was the first time that I had acted in a movie 3910 03:06:17,965 --> 03:06:20,931 with an imaginary monster, and things happening, and stuff. 3911 03:06:22,724 --> 03:06:23,941 Oh. 3912 03:06:23,965 --> 03:06:28,550 Of course, the amazing soundtrack by Fastway. 3913 03:06:29,309 --> 03:06:30,630 ♪ Rock and roll 3914 03:06:30,655 --> 03:06:32,561 ♪ Rockin' on a midnight 3915 03:06:32,585 --> 03:06:35,941 ♪ Steal your soul 3916 03:06:35,965 --> 03:06:38,871 Just such a killer collection of great tunes 3917 03:06:38,896 --> 03:06:40,802 that I still listen to to this day. 3918 03:06:40,826 --> 03:06:41,700 ♪ On a midnight 3919 03:06:41,725 --> 03:06:43,147 ♪ Steal your soul 3920 03:06:43,172 --> 03:06:44,595 We were giddy, it was so good. 3921 03:06:44,620 --> 03:06:46,527 We were like, this is good. 3922 03:06:46,550 --> 03:06:48,286 If the film was successful when it came out, 3923 03:06:48,309 --> 03:06:50,493 it wasn't successful enough for them to do the sequel, 3924 03:06:50,516 --> 03:06:53,595 and I'm not still living off of it. 3925 03:06:53,620 --> 03:06:56,319 If you think about all the movies that are out there, 3926 03:06:56,343 --> 03:06:59,240 it's unimaginable that people still care about this movie. 3927 03:07:01,965 --> 03:07:02,976 Un fucking real. 3928 03:07:03,000 --> 03:07:06,343 Heavy metal fans stayed true. 3929 03:07:16,689 --> 03:07:18,976 Marty Rantzen is still a dork, 3930 03:07:19,000 --> 03:07:20,802 but tonight he's getting even. 3931 03:07:20,826 --> 03:07:23,757 Vestron Pictures presents "Slaughter High". 3932 03:07:25,620 --> 03:07:27,251 April fool's! 3933 03:07:27,274 --> 03:07:30,871 "Slaughter High" is about a kid 3934 03:07:30,896 --> 03:07:33,561 that gets bullied, and years later at a reunion, 3935 03:07:33,585 --> 03:07:34,527 he comes back. 3936 03:07:34,550 --> 03:07:35,550 Starts killing. 3937 03:07:42,033 --> 03:07:43,734 It's a revenge film. 3938 03:07:43,757 --> 03:07:46,010 It's a horrible prank, and a prank that went 3939 03:07:46,033 --> 03:07:48,010 horribly wrong for everybody else. 3940 03:07:48,033 --> 03:07:49,217 I'm sorry, Marty. 3941 03:07:49,240 --> 03:07:50,724 We didn't mean to! 3942 03:07:52,343 --> 03:07:54,665 First of all, it was called "April Fool's Day", 3943 03:07:54,689 --> 03:07:57,043 and of course, that's like the American "April Fool's Day", 3944 03:07:57,067 --> 03:07:59,516 so we had to change the title. 3945 03:08:00,689 --> 03:08:02,251 It was meant to be shot in the States, 3946 03:08:02,274 --> 03:08:05,527 and there was no budget, so it was all shot in England. 3947 03:08:05,550 --> 03:08:06,941 Three directors. 3948 03:08:06,965 --> 03:08:08,630 George Dugdale, my husband. 3949 03:08:08,655 --> 03:08:11,700 Peter Mackenzie Litten, and Mark Ezra. 3950 03:08:11,724 --> 03:08:13,906 They all took different roles. 3951 03:08:13,931 --> 03:08:15,906 Peter Litten did the special effects, 3952 03:08:15,931 --> 03:08:18,689 so he'd step in and do those scenes. 3953 03:08:21,000 --> 03:08:23,217 Mark was more the writer, and George would be 3954 03:08:23,240 --> 03:08:25,595 very hands-on as the physical director, 3955 03:08:25,620 --> 03:08:26,665 which worked really well. 3956 03:08:26,689 --> 03:08:28,112 Good friends. 3957 03:08:28,137 --> 03:08:30,137 I've never had that before, but it was interesting. 3958 03:08:31,240 --> 03:08:32,769 Carol, my character. 3959 03:08:32,792 --> 03:08:33,871 Come on. 3960 03:08:33,896 --> 03:08:35,112 Come on. 3961 03:08:35,137 --> 03:08:36,595 She wasn't a very nice person at all. 3962 03:08:36,620 --> 03:08:37,871 She was a bit of a tease, 3963 03:08:37,896 --> 03:08:40,319 and she thought she was the bees knees. 3964 03:08:40,343 --> 03:08:41,941 And she was meant to be an 18-year-old. 3965 03:08:41,965 --> 03:08:42,872 I'm sorry. 3966 03:08:42,897 --> 03:08:45,665 I was in my 30s at that point. 3967 03:08:45,689 --> 03:08:47,182 They were clever in the casting, 3968 03:08:47,206 --> 03:08:49,941 because they got people in their late 20s and stuff, 3969 03:08:49,965 --> 03:08:51,527 so it didn't look too out of place. 3970 03:08:51,550 --> 03:08:54,458 You filthy stinking bastard, Marty! 3971 03:08:54,481 --> 03:08:56,388 What do you want from us? 3972 03:08:56,413 --> 03:08:58,286 There was a mix of Brit actors, 3973 03:08:58,309 --> 03:09:00,424 and then we had about four, five Americans, 3974 03:09:00,448 --> 03:09:02,067 so that made it credible. 3975 03:09:03,792 --> 03:09:05,078 Simon Scuddamore. 3976 03:09:05,102 --> 03:09:07,286 Very intense, and he did a brilliant job. 3977 03:09:07,309 --> 03:09:09,458 He made Marty totally come to life. 3978 03:09:09,481 --> 03:09:11,000 It was wonderful. 3979 03:09:13,516 --> 03:09:14,769 How do you want it? 3980 03:09:14,792 --> 03:09:15,665 Please, stop! 3981 03:09:15,690 --> 03:09:17,078 No! 3982 03:09:17,102 --> 03:09:18,458 And what they did, I don't know why they did it, 3983 03:09:18,481 --> 03:09:21,527 it was just like a pack of hyenas, really. 3984 03:09:21,550 --> 03:09:23,458 The scene with the bunsen burner. 3985 03:09:23,481 --> 03:09:25,620 They did such a good job with that. 3986 03:09:29,102 --> 03:09:30,319 No CGI. 3987 03:09:30,343 --> 03:09:32,620 All practically done in front of your eyes. 3988 03:09:35,172 --> 03:09:36,700 It all sets on fire. 3989 03:09:36,724 --> 03:09:38,112 I think it's a fabulous sequence. 3990 03:09:38,137 --> 03:09:39,769 It's a kind of tongue-in-cheek play 3991 03:09:39,792 --> 03:09:43,137 upon other films that were maybe more serious. 3992 03:09:44,896 --> 03:09:47,861 Given the budget, I think it stands up quite well. 3993 03:09:50,689 --> 03:09:52,976 People seem to like it, especially in the States 3994 03:09:53,000 --> 03:09:53,804 when I go there. 3995 03:09:53,827 --> 03:09:55,182 They say, we love it. 3996 03:09:55,206 --> 03:09:57,078 I say, what do you like about it? 3997 03:09:57,102 --> 03:10:00,931 They say it's so cheesy, we just love it. 3998 03:10:05,000 --> 03:10:06,182 Maybe it is a bit cheesy, 3999 03:10:06,206 --> 03:10:08,078 but it's cheesy and fun, 4000 03:10:08,102 --> 03:10:10,217 and the effects were really well done, 4001 03:10:10,240 --> 03:10:12,941 and hopefully the acting's okay. 4002 03:10:12,965 --> 03:10:14,172 Look, Manny. 4003 03:10:15,379 --> 03:10:18,802 The guy's weird, the story's weird, and- 4004 03:10:18,826 --> 03:10:19,631 And what? 4005 03:10:19,656 --> 03:10:21,000 And you're weird. 4006 03:10:29,792 --> 03:10:32,630 "Class of Nuke 'Em High", like all Troma movies, 4007 03:10:32,655 --> 03:10:36,458 was a movie ripped from today's headlines. 4008 03:10:36,481 --> 03:10:39,493 There was a nuclear power plant being built 4009 03:10:39,516 --> 03:10:42,388 about a quarter of a mile away from the United States' 4010 03:10:42,413 --> 03:10:45,527 most populous city, namely New York City. 4011 03:10:45,550 --> 03:10:47,043 And right next to where I lived, 4012 03:10:47,067 --> 03:10:50,217 so that gave me the idea of let's talk about that. 4013 03:10:50,240 --> 03:10:52,458 But sir, if we could just shut down for 48 hours- 4014 03:10:52,481 --> 03:10:53,769 Shut down? 4015 03:10:53,792 --> 03:10:55,010 They'll investigate us. 4016 03:10:55,033 --> 03:10:56,527 The EPA, the NRC. 4017 03:10:56,550 --> 03:10:59,837 "Class of Nuke 'Em High" is like a Cuisinart of genres. 4018 03:10:59,861 --> 03:11:03,010 People really enjoyed the mixture of humor and horror, 4019 03:11:03,033 --> 03:11:07,067 and social satire, and politics, and violence. 4020 03:11:10,620 --> 03:11:11,734 It's an excellent film. 4021 03:11:11,757 --> 03:11:13,182 It's very entertaining. 4022 03:11:13,206 --> 03:11:16,630 It's got something to say about pollution and radiation. 4023 03:11:16,655 --> 03:11:17,941 We have found no connection 4024 03:11:17,965 --> 03:11:19,976 between that unfortunate student 4025 03:11:20,000 --> 03:11:21,182 and this facility. 4026 03:11:21,206 --> 03:11:22,493 I almost killed one of my kids in it. 4027 03:11:22,516 --> 03:11:23,906 That was kinda fun. 4028 03:11:23,931 --> 03:11:26,665 We had to have a motorcycle run into a bake sale 4029 03:11:26,689 --> 03:11:28,976 with a lot of women with cakes, 4030 03:11:29,000 --> 03:11:31,286 and I put my wife and kid right in the center of it, 4031 03:11:31,309 --> 03:11:33,931 so that if anybody got hurt, you know, my fault. 4032 03:11:35,896 --> 03:11:38,561 Nothing happened, but they came pretty close. 4033 03:11:38,585 --> 03:11:40,527 Well, the whole idea of blowing up your school, 4034 03:11:40,550 --> 03:11:41,802 I always loved that. 4035 03:11:41,826 --> 03:11:43,251 And I think that was one of the reasons 4036 03:11:43,274 --> 03:11:44,354 it was successful. 4037 03:11:44,379 --> 03:11:46,309 We literally destroyed a school. 4038 03:11:50,033 --> 03:11:51,700 Once it got into theaters, 4039 03:11:51,724 --> 03:11:53,561 we made over 100 prints. 4040 03:11:53,585 --> 03:11:56,458 A video cassette company called Media Home Entertainment, 4041 03:11:56,481 --> 03:11:59,976 they sold over 500,000 video cassettes 4042 03:12:00,000 --> 03:12:02,724 around 200 bucks for a video cassette. 4043 03:12:04,343 --> 03:12:05,595 You know, "Class of Nuke 'Em High" 4044 03:12:05,620 --> 03:12:08,286 is still very popular with fans. 4045 03:12:08,309 --> 03:12:09,493 Nostalgic, too. 4046 03:12:09,516 --> 03:12:10,941 We've got all these young people 4047 03:12:10,965 --> 03:12:12,424 who are now in their 50s 4048 03:12:12,448 --> 03:12:14,493 who still like "Class of Nuke 'Em High". 4049 03:12:14,516 --> 03:12:17,172 They want to see the future, but now. 4050 03:12:19,240 --> 03:12:20,700 It's a good movie. 4051 03:12:20,724 --> 03:12:22,665 It's so good that there's "Subhumanoid Meltdown: 4052 03:12:22,689 --> 03:12:24,112 "Class of Nuke 'Em High Part 2", 4053 03:12:24,137 --> 03:12:25,734 "The Good the Bad and the Subhumanoid: 4054 03:12:25,757 --> 03:12:27,424 "Class of Nuke 'Em High Part 3". 4055 03:12:27,448 --> 03:12:28,941 There are five of them. 4056 03:12:28,965 --> 03:12:30,147 Tromaville High School will be 4057 03:12:30,172 --> 03:12:32,102 temporarily closed for remodeling. 4058 03:12:33,067 --> 03:12:34,620 All right! 4059 03:12:41,861 --> 03:12:44,240 This is actually based on a true story. 4060 03:12:45,240 --> 03:12:46,493 "The Zero Boys". 4061 03:12:46,516 --> 03:12:49,976 Dawn of a new breed of heroes. 4062 03:12:50,000 --> 03:12:52,319 This really did happen upstate California. 4063 03:12:52,343 --> 03:12:54,976 There was a group of people that would go paintballing, 4064 03:12:55,000 --> 03:12:57,379 and there was a maniac that would kill them. 4065 03:13:00,792 --> 03:13:04,078 Somebody said I'm gonna write a movie about this, and did. 4066 03:13:04,102 --> 03:13:05,837 In the movie, there's a group, and they're called 4067 03:13:05,861 --> 03:13:09,010 the Zero Boys, because they never, ever, ever, ever win. 4068 03:13:09,033 --> 03:13:10,871 But this one time, they won. 4069 03:13:10,896 --> 03:13:11,896 Do it. 4070 03:13:12,620 --> 03:13:14,769 The Zero Boys are the best! 4071 03:13:14,792 --> 03:13:16,286 Fucking assholes. 4072 03:13:16,309 --> 03:13:18,871 And they won my character. 4073 03:13:18,896 --> 03:13:21,595 And so she's very unhappy about that. 4074 03:13:21,620 --> 03:13:24,837 I am so thrilled to be with the champions. 4075 03:13:24,861 --> 03:13:26,043 Go on. 4076 03:13:26,067 --> 03:13:27,458 Show me what makes the Zero Boys tick. 4077 03:13:27,481 --> 03:13:29,388 So they get up there, and all of a sudden 4078 03:13:29,413 --> 03:13:30,389 something is wrong. 4079 03:13:30,414 --> 03:13:32,067 Jamie. 4080 03:13:37,102 --> 03:13:40,078 It was kind of more getting into the torture thing, 4081 03:13:40,102 --> 03:13:42,102 like really kind of sick and weird. 4082 03:13:44,655 --> 03:13:46,424 Directed by Nico Mastorakis, 4083 03:13:46,448 --> 03:13:51,010 who was this Greek guy who loved action exploitation horror. 4084 03:13:51,033 --> 03:13:54,319 And Nico just delivers this powerhouse of action movie 4085 03:13:54,343 --> 03:13:56,112 mixed with horror. 4086 03:13:56,137 --> 03:13:58,112 The running and the hanging by our feet 4087 03:13:58,137 --> 03:13:59,665 and all that other kind of stuff, 4088 03:13:59,689 --> 03:14:03,112 a lot of inventiveness with weapons, and crossbows, 4089 03:14:03,137 --> 03:14:04,689 and things like that. 4090 03:14:06,206 --> 03:14:08,251 And this movie is brilliantly photographed 4091 03:14:08,274 --> 03:14:09,769 by Steve Shaw. 4092 03:14:09,792 --> 03:14:11,734 Every shot of that movie is almost like a painting, 4093 03:14:11,757 --> 03:14:14,700 especially when they're out in the wilderness. 4094 03:14:14,724 --> 03:14:16,217 It was a lot of running around in the woods, 4095 03:14:16,240 --> 03:14:17,458 that's for sure. 4096 03:14:17,481 --> 03:14:18,837 Everybody camped together and went 4097 03:14:18,861 --> 03:14:20,700 we have a serious problem here. 4098 03:14:20,724 --> 03:14:21,871 What are we going to do? 4099 03:14:21,896 --> 03:14:23,976 And did it as a group. 4100 03:14:24,000 --> 03:14:26,182 You have to get engaged with the characters, 4101 03:14:26,206 --> 03:14:28,527 and care about them, or relate to them, 4102 03:14:28,550 --> 03:14:31,147 or have an opinion about them. 4103 03:14:31,172 --> 03:14:32,941 If you don't know who these people are 4104 03:14:32,965 --> 03:14:35,319 on an intimate level, then you don't care. 4105 03:14:35,343 --> 03:14:37,206 We wanna care. 4106 03:14:39,516 --> 03:14:41,112 My favorite kill in "The Zero Boys", 4107 03:14:41,137 --> 03:14:43,251 he falls into this pit of spikes, 4108 03:14:43,274 --> 03:14:44,861 and then you can't get out. 4109 03:14:48,620 --> 03:14:51,067 But it was a good kill. 4110 03:14:53,861 --> 03:14:55,802 Joe Estevez played the killer, 4111 03:14:55,826 --> 03:14:58,010 and he looks exactly like Martin Sheen. 4112 03:14:58,033 --> 03:15:00,182 Probably scarier, because he has more experience 4113 03:15:00,206 --> 03:15:02,240 doing these kinds of things. 4114 03:15:06,343 --> 03:15:08,700 It was Hans Zimmer's first American score. 4115 03:15:08,724 --> 03:15:10,481 Frank Darabont was on the crew. 4116 03:15:12,206 --> 03:15:14,251 I remember he was telling us all about 4117 03:15:14,274 --> 03:15:16,286 how he had a story that he bought 4118 03:15:16,309 --> 03:15:18,078 from Stephen King for a dollar, 4119 03:15:18,102 --> 03:15:20,826 and it was "Shawshank Redemption". 4120 03:15:23,102 --> 03:15:25,906 "The Zero Boys" is under the radar because it always was. 4121 03:15:25,931 --> 03:15:27,871 It was always an underground thing. 4122 03:15:27,896 --> 03:15:29,251 What's scary about "The Zero Boys" 4123 03:15:29,274 --> 03:15:31,354 is you could be doing something that you love to do, 4124 03:15:31,379 --> 03:15:32,724 and be in mortal danger. 4125 03:15:34,861 --> 03:15:36,861 There's no place safe. 4126 03:15:47,309 --> 03:15:50,871 My real name is George Tani. 4127 03:15:50,896 --> 03:15:53,010 Growing up, I was very impressed 4128 03:15:53,033 --> 03:15:55,112 with Ray Harry Haroldon movies. 4129 03:15:55,137 --> 03:15:57,388 "Jason and the Argonauts". 4130 03:15:57,413 --> 03:15:59,769 My dad took me to the theater. 4131 03:15:59,792 --> 03:16:02,734 He said it's gonna be fun, it's gonna be a fighting movie. 4132 03:16:02,757 --> 03:16:04,043 It's like a skeleton, you know, you're gonna like it. 4133 03:16:04,067 --> 03:16:06,286 And I said oh, that's great. 4134 03:16:06,309 --> 03:16:09,147 I have been watching "Godzilla", and all those, 4135 03:16:09,172 --> 03:16:11,010 tojo and kaiju films. 4136 03:16:11,033 --> 03:16:13,516 When I saw "Howling". 4137 03:16:18,000 --> 03:16:22,665 The first time I saw the man turned into the werewolf, 4138 03:16:22,689 --> 03:16:25,078 changing right in front of my eye, 4139 03:16:25,102 --> 03:16:28,067 I was like, this is it. 4140 03:16:33,550 --> 03:16:36,527 And then you see more coming up 4141 03:16:36,550 --> 03:16:39,319 from Rick Baker, and Rob Bottin. 4142 03:16:39,343 --> 03:16:43,206 And then Dick Smith's "Altered States". 4143 03:16:46,481 --> 03:16:50,871 The images of that really made me decide 4144 03:16:50,896 --> 03:16:52,931 this is the way to go. 4145 03:16:58,000 --> 03:17:01,319 When I went to New York studying in school 4146 03:17:01,343 --> 03:17:05,481 of visual arts, right in the beginning of punk movement. 4147 03:17:06,413 --> 03:17:07,976 ♪ God save the queen 4148 03:17:08,000 --> 03:17:10,010 I saw the art side of it. 4149 03:17:10,033 --> 03:17:13,251 Punk music really gave me the art, 4150 03:17:13,274 --> 03:17:16,010 okay, we can do a lot more on edge. 4151 03:17:16,033 --> 03:17:20,000 I can perform something shocking to the people. 4152 03:17:21,826 --> 03:17:25,424 "Nightmare 4", my effect was Debbie's roach, 4153 03:17:25,448 --> 03:17:26,941 the girl that hates the cockroach, 4154 03:17:26,965 --> 03:17:28,424 and then she becomes a cockroach, 4155 03:17:28,448 --> 03:17:32,217 and then crushed by Freddie. 4156 03:17:32,240 --> 03:17:36,630 That's like Kafka, you know? 4157 03:17:36,655 --> 03:17:39,319 And this is a surreal sequence. 4158 03:17:39,343 --> 03:17:41,182 The fake body, we take it off 4159 03:17:41,206 --> 03:17:43,112 so she can put her head out, 4160 03:17:43,137 --> 03:17:45,734 and fake arm, it breaks. 4161 03:17:45,757 --> 03:17:48,734 It's old trick, but the images, 4162 03:17:48,757 --> 03:17:51,896 and what happening, really creep them out. 4163 03:17:52,792 --> 03:17:54,620 Everybody is like really, ugh! 4164 03:17:56,516 --> 03:17:57,976 That's gross! 4165 03:17:58,000 --> 03:18:00,620 I succeeded the illusion. 4166 03:18:01,620 --> 03:18:04,343 I'm very proud of that show. 4167 03:18:10,067 --> 03:18:11,251 It was Brian Yuzna. 4168 03:18:11,274 --> 03:18:13,976 We were really creating the scene together. 4169 03:18:14,000 --> 03:18:16,217 Especially the chanting sequence. 4170 03:18:16,240 --> 03:18:21,000 It's a real grotesque orgy. 4171 03:18:26,000 --> 03:18:27,493 I love Dali. 4172 03:18:27,516 --> 03:18:31,769 Dali is the one that made me really into art. 4173 03:18:31,792 --> 03:18:34,734 My crew was all inside, you know? 4174 03:18:34,757 --> 03:18:36,976 Inside of that creature. 4175 03:18:37,000 --> 03:18:38,182 They can move. 4176 03:18:38,206 --> 03:18:41,595 That's why you don't have to have expensive 4177 03:18:41,620 --> 03:18:43,481 mechanical movement, you know? 4178 03:18:44,689 --> 03:18:47,102 And the people can move organically. 4179 03:18:51,102 --> 03:18:54,561 I put in my 200, 300% on it. 4180 03:18:54,585 --> 03:18:58,217 So my sleeping time is really maybe average 4181 03:18:58,240 --> 03:19:00,458 of two hours a day, or something, 4182 03:19:00,481 --> 03:19:02,274 during the show. 4183 03:19:03,620 --> 03:19:05,700 There was not much budget, so I just have to 4184 03:19:05,724 --> 03:19:08,493 sculpt everything myself, pretty much. 4185 03:19:08,516 --> 03:19:10,102 And fast. 4186 03:19:14,379 --> 03:19:16,700 Making things for "Bride of Re-Animator", 4187 03:19:16,724 --> 03:19:19,976 we didn't have enough time to shoot everything 4188 03:19:20,000 --> 03:19:21,147 that we wanted to do. 4189 03:19:21,172 --> 03:19:23,354 It was very rushed. 4190 03:19:23,379 --> 03:19:26,251 Herbert West, he does a bunch of experiments, 4191 03:19:26,274 --> 03:19:30,000 so I can do so many different idea. 4192 03:19:34,826 --> 03:19:38,561 The design comes in as outrageous as possible. 4193 03:19:38,585 --> 03:19:42,861 You stupid biped! 4194 03:19:44,137 --> 03:19:49,112 Vietnam veteran, Noble Craig, is an actor 4195 03:19:49,137 --> 03:19:51,147 who is amputee. 4196 03:19:51,172 --> 03:19:54,595 I've been working with him since "Poltergeist II". 4197 03:19:54,620 --> 03:19:58,147 The vomit creature, crawl across the room, 4198 03:19:58,172 --> 03:20:00,516 that is Craig. 4199 03:20:05,343 --> 03:20:07,493 And then "Big Trouble in Little China", 4200 03:20:07,516 --> 03:20:11,147 sewer creature, the creature comes out from a tunnel, 4201 03:20:11,172 --> 03:20:13,595 eats the guy, and then comes back, right? 4202 03:20:13,620 --> 03:20:15,182 That's it. 4203 03:20:15,206 --> 03:20:17,769 It took three months to make it. 4204 03:20:17,792 --> 03:20:20,906 That too, Noble Craig is inside there 4205 03:20:20,931 --> 03:20:22,493 in special makeup effects. 4206 03:20:22,516 --> 03:20:26,527 I think that is one of the evolutional happenings 4207 03:20:26,550 --> 03:20:29,595 happened in film industry. 4208 03:20:29,620 --> 03:20:34,620 When I was in Japan, first I call myself Toshusi Mad, 4209 03:20:35,861 --> 03:20:37,595 and then I wanted to have something 4210 03:20:37,620 --> 03:20:39,424 that is really crazy. 4211 03:20:39,448 --> 03:20:43,906 Mad is something that is much more crazier than crazy, 4212 03:20:43,931 --> 03:20:45,595 I think, you know what I mean? 4213 03:20:45,620 --> 03:20:46,655 More power with it. 4214 03:20:47,861 --> 03:20:50,941 And then I remember the blues singer 4215 03:20:50,965 --> 03:20:53,826 named Screaming Jay Hawkins. 4216 03:20:54,757 --> 03:20:59,112 If I use Screaming Mad George. 4217 03:20:59,137 --> 03:21:00,837 That sounds good. 4218 03:21:00,861 --> 03:21:04,067 Screaming Mad George is my artist name. 4219 03:21:23,448 --> 03:21:26,078 "Witchboard". 4220 03:21:26,102 --> 03:21:28,251 "Witchboard" is the reason I will not allow 4221 03:21:28,274 --> 03:21:30,665 a Ouija board in my house to this day. 4222 03:21:30,689 --> 03:21:32,550 Don't come into my house with a Ouija board. 4223 03:21:36,102 --> 03:21:37,734 All I ever wanted to do was figure out 4224 03:21:37,757 --> 03:21:38,837 where I could get a Ouija board. 4225 03:21:38,861 --> 03:21:40,595 I wanna try this thing out. 4226 03:21:40,620 --> 03:21:41,620 Can you hear me? 4227 03:21:44,826 --> 03:21:48,493 That movie came out right at the right time 4228 03:21:48,516 --> 03:21:49,689 for my puberty. 4229 03:21:50,861 --> 03:21:55,516 Tawny Kitaen, the quintessential wow. 4230 03:21:56,689 --> 03:21:59,493 I had already seen her in "Bachelor Party". 4231 03:21:59,516 --> 03:22:01,837 I'd seen her in all the fucking Whitesnake videos 4232 03:22:01,861 --> 03:22:02,861 at that point. 4233 03:22:03,896 --> 03:22:06,354 ♪ Well here I go again on my own ♪ 4234 03:22:06,379 --> 03:22:08,941 Doing flips on the cars, and splits and things. 4235 03:22:08,965 --> 03:22:11,078 It was very impressive. 4236 03:22:11,102 --> 03:22:12,620 I'd really like to try this. 4237 03:22:16,240 --> 03:22:18,217 "Witchboard" is about somebody 4238 03:22:18,240 --> 03:22:21,424 who becomes obsessed with the Ouija board. 4239 03:22:21,448 --> 03:22:23,769 David, do you remember me? 4240 03:22:23,792 --> 03:22:28,792 A Ouija board that then opens the portal of hell 4241 03:22:29,379 --> 03:22:30,458 to a demon. 4242 03:22:30,481 --> 03:22:32,067 Ooh, that's a little spooky. 4243 03:22:32,965 --> 03:22:33,770 It's a little stupid. 4244 03:22:33,793 --> 03:22:35,424 It's a lot stupid. 4245 03:22:35,448 --> 03:22:38,871 The visceral horror and gore that starts to happen 4246 03:22:38,896 --> 03:22:42,112 once the horror is unleashed in "Witchboard". 4247 03:22:42,137 --> 03:22:43,976 It really scared the crap out of me 4248 03:22:44,000 --> 03:22:45,448 in a really fun way. 4249 03:22:48,206 --> 03:22:49,527 It's the very first film that we got 4250 03:22:49,550 --> 03:22:50,769 from Kevin Tenney. 4251 03:22:50,792 --> 03:22:53,700 This was a precursor to "Night of the Demons". 4252 03:22:53,724 --> 03:22:55,700 He starts to frighten and terrorize her, 4253 03:22:55,724 --> 03:22:57,976 gradually breaking down her resistance. 4254 03:22:58,000 --> 03:23:00,630 And once that's done, he's able to possess her. 4255 03:23:00,655 --> 03:23:03,595 The thing that Kevin Tenney brought to the table 4256 03:23:03,620 --> 03:23:06,595 that set him apart from other directors I've worked with 4257 03:23:06,620 --> 03:23:10,516 was his sense of humor and his passion for horror. 4258 03:23:13,689 --> 03:23:15,319 Ouija board was copyrighted 4259 03:23:15,343 --> 03:23:17,493 so that he couldn't call his movie "Ouija Board", 4260 03:23:17,516 --> 03:23:19,251 so he changed it to "Witchboard". 4261 03:23:19,274 --> 03:23:21,976 It's pronounced Ouija, not Ouij-i. 4262 03:23:22,000 --> 03:23:24,976 It comes from the French and German words for yes. 4263 03:23:25,000 --> 03:23:26,251 Oui and ja. 4264 03:23:26,274 --> 03:23:27,802 Ouija. 4265 03:23:27,826 --> 03:23:30,182 It was great working with the late great Tawny Kitaen. 4266 03:23:30,206 --> 03:23:31,941 You must be Linda. 4267 03:23:31,965 --> 03:23:33,527 She was fun to act with. 4268 03:23:33,550 --> 03:23:35,182 She had a little brown dog 4269 03:23:35,206 --> 03:23:37,147 that she brought on the set all the time. 4270 03:23:37,172 --> 03:23:38,906 Jim, this is Zarabeth. 4271 03:23:38,931 --> 03:23:41,067 The best medium in northern California. 4272 03:23:42,000 --> 03:23:44,043 When we did that seance scene, 4273 03:23:44,067 --> 03:23:45,769 every time they'd say action, 4274 03:23:45,792 --> 03:23:48,319 and I'd go like, whoo. 4275 03:23:48,343 --> 03:23:50,217 Pretend like the boy was in my body. 4276 03:23:50,240 --> 03:23:52,769 I'd look over at her and she'd be like, , 4277 03:23:52,792 --> 03:23:56,251 she'd start laughing, and then we all start laughing. 4278 03:23:56,274 --> 03:23:58,286 And nobody could ever pull it together. 4279 03:23:58,309 --> 03:24:00,561 And I was like, I can't do this! 4280 03:24:00,585 --> 03:24:02,043 It was so goofy. 4281 03:24:02,067 --> 03:24:05,112 But with the scary music, when we finally got a take, 4282 03:24:05,137 --> 03:24:07,527 it worked, you know they put a weird effect 4283 03:24:07,550 --> 03:24:09,319 on my voice or something like that. 4284 03:24:09,343 --> 03:24:11,172 She hurt me. 4285 03:24:12,448 --> 03:24:14,424 She won't talk to me anymore. 4286 03:24:14,448 --> 03:24:17,792 Zarabeth to me is definitely a highlight of "Witchboard". 4287 03:24:19,033 --> 03:24:22,078 Just some more psychic humor. 4288 03:24:22,102 --> 03:24:23,906 Come on Brandy, let's hit the musky dusk. 4289 03:24:23,931 --> 03:24:26,689 Her death is so gnarly, too. 4290 03:24:31,102 --> 03:24:33,388 They'd say action, and then I'd get to 4291 03:24:33,413 --> 03:24:36,251 pretend like I land on the sundial, 4292 03:24:36,274 --> 03:24:39,388 and I had got one of those blood pills in my mouth, 4293 03:24:39,413 --> 03:24:43,343 and I did get to go like, 4294 03:24:44,861 --> 03:24:47,595 and like split out blood, 4295 03:24:47,620 --> 03:24:49,595 which I adored. 4296 03:24:49,620 --> 03:24:53,976 They had taped the top of the sundial to my back 4297 03:24:54,000 --> 03:24:58,286 so I ran down the set, 4298 03:24:58,309 --> 03:25:00,871 pretending like I was a shark. 4299 03:25:00,896 --> 03:25:02,379 I see danger ahead. 4300 03:25:04,102 --> 03:25:05,112 For Linda? 4301 03:25:05,137 --> 03:25:06,493 For you. 4302 03:25:06,516 --> 03:25:07,734 If you miss my house. 4303 03:25:07,757 --> 03:25:12,137 On "Witchboard", I had so much fun laughing. 4304 03:25:13,620 --> 03:25:17,595 It's coming up on the right! 4305 03:25:17,620 --> 03:25:18,976 A little more psychic humor, huh? 4306 03:25:19,000 --> 03:25:22,379 With tears and belly laughs everyday. 4307 03:25:27,448 --> 03:25:28,458 Tawny Kitaen. 4308 03:25:28,481 --> 03:25:30,802 When I saw that she died, 4309 03:25:30,826 --> 03:25:32,976 I felt loss, and sadness. 4310 03:25:33,000 --> 03:25:35,837 She was a blast, and funny, and smart, 4311 03:25:35,861 --> 03:25:39,043 and lovely, and it's weird for me to even think 4312 03:25:39,067 --> 03:25:40,319 that she's not around. 4313 03:25:40,343 --> 03:25:42,067 It's bizarre to me. 4314 03:25:47,896 --> 03:25:51,217 "Blood Rage", also known as "Slasher", 4315 03:25:51,240 --> 03:25:54,078 and "Nightmare at Shadow Woods". 4316 03:25:54,102 --> 03:25:55,630 I mean it's like, make up your minds, 4317 03:25:55,655 --> 03:25:56,655 will you people? 4318 03:25:58,102 --> 03:26:00,837 There's so few Thanksgiving horror movies, 4319 03:26:00,861 --> 03:26:04,043 that I feel like this has kind of had a resurgence 4320 03:26:04,067 --> 03:26:06,769 in recent years, because everybody wants 4321 03:26:06,792 --> 03:26:09,413 a horror movie to watch on the holidays. 4322 03:26:15,448 --> 03:26:18,516 Twin boys, one crazy, one not. 4323 03:26:19,413 --> 03:26:20,458 There's a mix-up. 4324 03:26:20,481 --> 03:26:22,217 One gets put in an asylum. 4325 03:26:22,240 --> 03:26:23,734 One's out loose. 4326 03:26:23,757 --> 03:26:24,837 Nobody in the movie knows. 4327 03:26:24,861 --> 03:26:27,043 Everyone in the audience knows. 4328 03:26:27,067 --> 03:26:28,251 Here's to the new family. 4329 03:26:28,274 --> 03:26:30,147 "Blood Rage" is about a Thanksgiving meal 4330 03:26:30,172 --> 03:26:33,424 that just goes completely awash in blood. 4331 03:26:33,448 --> 03:26:35,112 I'm not a fan of horror. 4332 03:26:35,137 --> 03:26:36,941 When I got "Blood Rage", it was a new 4333 03:26:36,965 --> 03:26:38,826 genre for me completely. 4334 03:26:40,309 --> 03:26:43,286 I went to the video store, and went to the horror section. 4335 03:26:43,309 --> 03:26:46,078 I literally had to go and investigate it. 4336 03:26:46,102 --> 03:26:49,010 What, are you gonna try and shoot me again, Todd? 4337 03:26:49,033 --> 03:26:51,319 It's twins. 4338 03:26:51,343 --> 03:26:52,252 You know? 4339 03:26:52,275 --> 03:26:53,734 So I'm going, are they kidding? 4340 03:26:53,757 --> 03:26:55,286 Do they know what they're getting involved with? 4341 03:26:55,309 --> 03:26:57,802 That's a chore for most people in any film, 4342 03:26:57,826 --> 03:26:59,689 let alone on a low budget. 4343 03:27:01,067 --> 03:27:04,043 I broke it down, Stanislavski, building a character. 4344 03:27:04,067 --> 03:27:06,388 The psychopath, you know? 4345 03:27:06,413 --> 03:27:10,906 And then the other guy was closer to what I usually played, 4346 03:27:10,931 --> 03:27:12,976 the sort of hate yourself, low esteem, 4347 03:27:13,000 --> 03:27:14,458 I'd played a couple of prisoners, 4348 03:27:14,481 --> 03:27:16,906 and stuff like that, and mixed up kids. 4349 03:27:16,931 --> 03:27:17,931 Very intense. 4350 03:27:24,689 --> 03:27:25,976 "Blood Rage" operates in a world 4351 03:27:26,000 --> 03:27:30,458 where it's the family Thanksgiving and murder. 4352 03:27:30,481 --> 03:27:31,630 Looks like you're gonna get a chance 4353 03:27:31,655 --> 03:27:33,424 to meet the rest of the family. 4354 03:27:33,448 --> 03:27:35,724 My psychotic brother just escaped. 4355 03:27:36,965 --> 03:27:38,527 It's the turkey and killing people. 4356 03:27:38,550 --> 03:27:40,010 It's rich. 4357 03:27:40,033 --> 03:27:44,700 I'd say that this big bird is ready for carving. 4358 03:27:44,724 --> 03:27:47,493 Why does this make me so crazy? 4359 03:27:47,516 --> 03:27:49,561 Time to eat, let's all sit down. 4360 03:27:49,585 --> 03:27:51,043 It's time for dinner. 4361 03:27:51,067 --> 03:27:52,757 Look what the cat brought in! 4362 03:27:59,448 --> 03:28:03,251 Louise Lasser gives 110% in that movie. 4363 03:28:03,274 --> 03:28:04,976 She's incredible. 4364 03:28:05,000 --> 03:28:07,976 She was, god bless her, a force of nature. 4365 03:28:08,000 --> 03:28:10,424 Mary Hartman was seminal TV, man. 4366 03:28:10,448 --> 03:28:12,112 That was hot stuff. 4367 03:28:12,137 --> 03:28:14,941 You know, murder with no reason, or no motive, 4368 03:28:14,965 --> 03:28:17,182 I mean really senseless, when you think about it. 4369 03:28:17,206 --> 03:28:19,561 Do you think this is too spicy, or not spicy enough? 4370 03:28:19,585 --> 03:28:21,837 She set the tone for "Nightmare Mom". 4371 03:28:21,861 --> 03:28:24,112 She creates the world for the film 4372 03:28:24,137 --> 03:28:25,137 Oh please. 4373 03:28:27,826 --> 03:28:29,965 Please don't do this to me. 4374 03:28:31,343 --> 03:28:33,217 She had that voice, she would just 4375 03:28:33,240 --> 03:28:35,941 get into these states. 4376 03:28:35,965 --> 03:28:38,010 She was transformed. 4377 03:28:38,033 --> 03:28:40,112 Come give mommy a kiss. 4378 03:28:40,137 --> 03:28:42,112 That scene around the refrigerator? 4379 03:28:42,137 --> 03:28:43,354 I mean, come on. 4380 03:28:43,379 --> 03:28:45,871 This is a woman who's freaking out over food. 4381 03:28:45,896 --> 03:28:48,043 And it's so over the top. 4382 03:28:48,067 --> 03:28:50,527 I've been calling you and calling you! 4383 03:28:50,550 --> 03:28:53,286 Why didn't you answer the phone? 4384 03:28:53,309 --> 03:28:54,458 Todd's here! 4385 03:28:54,481 --> 03:28:56,078 And he's killing again! 4386 03:28:56,102 --> 03:28:57,079 She was bringing it. 4387 03:28:57,103 --> 03:28:58,837 She got an applause on the set, 4388 03:28:58,861 --> 03:29:01,000 and I've only been around that a few times. 4389 03:29:05,000 --> 03:29:06,182 It's bananas. 4390 03:29:06,206 --> 03:29:08,871 It's a movie where no one in the movie 4391 03:29:08,896 --> 03:29:11,182 is making the same movie as anyone else in the movie. 4392 03:29:11,206 --> 03:29:13,458 They're all singing in their own key, 4393 03:29:13,481 --> 03:29:14,906 and the movie's all the better for it. 4394 03:29:14,931 --> 03:29:16,620 It's unhinged, it's delightful. 4395 03:29:22,655 --> 03:29:24,769 Shooting a melodrama like "Blood Rage" 4396 03:29:24,792 --> 03:29:26,319 is a whole different thing. 4397 03:29:26,343 --> 03:29:28,388 You can tear up the furniture. 4398 03:29:28,413 --> 03:29:33,206 You can do crazy stuff you just don't normally get to do. 4399 03:29:37,896 --> 03:29:39,182 It's horror, low budget horror. 4400 03:29:39,206 --> 03:29:40,906 But this had a building audience 4401 03:29:40,931 --> 03:29:42,700 and a genre that had legs. 4402 03:29:42,724 --> 03:29:43,837 It was like heavy metal, man. 4403 03:29:43,861 --> 03:29:45,792 This ain't going away. 4404 03:29:48,448 --> 03:29:49,078 This is gonna be a decades long thing. 4405 03:29:49,102 --> 03:29:50,102 Get used to it. 4406 03:29:51,000 --> 03:29:52,620 It's not cranberry sauce, Artie. 4407 03:29:55,102 --> 03:29:57,102 It's not cranberry sauce. 4408 03:30:03,033 --> 03:30:06,724 They have opened "The Gate". 4409 03:30:07,620 --> 03:30:09,458 Pray it's not too late. 4410 03:30:09,481 --> 03:30:11,630 One of the greatest things about "The Gate" 4411 03:30:11,655 --> 03:30:13,561 is that for a lot of kids at that time, 4412 03:30:13,585 --> 03:30:16,388 it became their gateway horror movie, 4413 03:30:16,413 --> 03:30:18,769 because it felt like a kids movie 4414 03:30:18,792 --> 03:30:22,182 that didn't play by the kids movies rules. 4415 03:30:22,206 --> 03:30:23,148 Already filled it in. 4416 03:30:23,173 --> 03:30:25,043 Whoa, whoa! 4417 03:30:25,067 --> 03:30:26,871 "The Gate" is about a group of kids 4418 03:30:26,896 --> 03:30:28,527 that dig a hole in their backyard, 4419 03:30:28,550 --> 03:30:30,757 and find demons. 4420 03:30:31,965 --> 03:30:33,010 Hi. 4421 03:30:33,033 --> 03:30:34,033 Hey. 4422 03:30:38,343 --> 03:30:40,010 It's a PG-13 horror film. 4423 03:30:40,033 --> 03:30:41,595 I always saw it as a film 4424 03:30:41,620 --> 03:30:43,595 that the whole family could watch, 4425 03:30:43,620 --> 03:30:46,665 that adults could be sort of nostalgic 4426 03:30:46,689 --> 03:30:49,976 about growing up, and kids could find an adventure in it. 4427 03:30:50,000 --> 03:30:51,182 Sacrifices. 4428 03:30:51,206 --> 03:30:53,078 We had so much fun making that movie, 4429 03:30:53,102 --> 03:30:54,906 even though it was very difficult. 4430 03:30:54,931 --> 03:30:56,147 Money was short. 4431 03:30:56,172 --> 03:30:58,251 All those people put their heart into it. 4432 03:30:58,274 --> 03:31:01,620 The actors, the writers, the special effects people. 4433 03:31:06,240 --> 03:31:09,976 We were able to pull the most out of everybody. 4434 03:31:10,000 --> 03:31:12,585 The album, backwards! 4435 03:31:13,861 --> 03:31:15,700 Tells you how to close the gate. 4436 03:31:15,724 --> 03:31:19,078 It's like the first heavy metal horror movie for kids. 4437 03:31:19,102 --> 03:31:20,630 They got their lyrics from this thing 4438 03:31:20,655 --> 03:31:21,724 called the Dark Book. 4439 03:31:22,655 --> 03:31:24,286 It's like the Bible for demons. 4440 03:31:24,309 --> 03:31:25,595 So you have somebody like Tibor, 4441 03:31:25,620 --> 03:31:27,561 who had a background working 4442 03:31:27,585 --> 03:31:29,319 in heavy metal music videos 4443 03:31:29,343 --> 03:31:32,043 coming in and being able to infuse that 4444 03:31:32,067 --> 03:31:35,413 into this kids movie is pretty astounding. 4445 03:31:37,585 --> 03:31:40,424 It's always much scarier when horror 4446 03:31:40,448 --> 03:31:43,274 comes into the normal world. 4447 03:31:45,343 --> 03:31:47,354 Stephen Dorff was just so cool to me 4448 03:31:47,379 --> 03:31:48,769 when I was a kid. 4449 03:31:48,792 --> 03:31:51,112 It seemed like something that could happen to me. 4450 03:31:51,137 --> 03:31:52,561 I could look down in my backyard 4451 03:31:52,585 --> 03:31:54,388 and I was always sure there was the potential 4452 03:31:54,413 --> 03:31:56,965 for a portal, monsters. 4453 03:32:02,481 --> 03:32:04,802 I always feel kids can make great actors 4454 03:32:04,826 --> 03:32:08,010 if you can key into them, you treat them like adults. 4455 03:32:08,033 --> 03:32:09,493 When they're in the right frame of mind, 4456 03:32:09,516 --> 03:32:10,976 you can do amazing things, 4457 03:32:11,000 --> 03:32:12,871 and get very real performances. 4458 03:32:12,896 --> 03:32:14,354 We have to close the gate. 4459 03:32:14,379 --> 03:32:16,217 We have to go to the hole and do it right. 4460 03:32:16,240 --> 03:32:18,665 You mean you guys were serious about that demon stuff? 4461 03:32:18,689 --> 03:32:20,595 The main theme of "The Gate" to me 4462 03:32:20,620 --> 03:32:24,734 is sibling relationships and friendship 4463 03:32:24,757 --> 03:32:27,630 to overcome insurmountable odds. 4464 03:32:27,655 --> 03:32:29,172 You need your friends. 4465 03:32:32,826 --> 03:32:34,527 I think of all the effects that they were 4466 03:32:34,550 --> 03:32:37,379 able to do in that movie courtesy of Randall William Cook. 4467 03:32:42,448 --> 03:32:43,700 I was already reading Fangoria 4468 03:32:43,724 --> 03:32:45,561 and I was into the effect part of it, 4469 03:32:45,585 --> 03:32:47,837 like the technical part of horror filmmaking. 4470 03:32:47,861 --> 03:32:50,734 I knew that we would have to use an encyclopedia of effects. 4471 03:32:50,757 --> 03:32:53,147 There was no one solution to all that stuff. 4472 03:32:53,172 --> 03:32:55,837 And thank goodness that Randy was so good 4473 03:32:55,861 --> 03:32:57,861 at all of those things. 4474 03:33:01,792 --> 03:33:03,458 When the workman falls over and breaks into the minions, 4475 03:33:03,481 --> 03:33:06,906 that to me is like a seminal important moment 4476 03:33:06,931 --> 03:33:08,665 in the movie where you go wow. 4477 03:33:08,689 --> 03:33:10,516 Even I go wow. 4478 03:33:13,516 --> 03:33:16,941 But it is still cool as hell to watch that sequence, 4479 03:33:16,965 --> 03:33:18,976 and I wish we got more movies 4480 03:33:19,000 --> 03:33:20,802 that tried to do stuff like that more these days. 4481 03:33:20,826 --> 03:33:23,217 Like, I don't care if it looks a little dated. 4482 03:33:23,240 --> 03:33:24,148 I don't. 4483 03:33:24,173 --> 03:33:25,413 Because it's still magic to me. 4484 03:33:26,689 --> 03:33:28,630 It's like a bespoke movie. 4485 03:33:28,655 --> 03:33:30,043 It's handmade. 4486 03:33:30,067 --> 03:33:31,630 It's kind of rough around the edges that way. 4487 03:33:31,655 --> 03:33:33,595 That's what draws people to it. 4488 03:33:33,620 --> 03:33:35,620 They can see the love that went into it. 4489 03:33:46,481 --> 03:33:48,354 "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare" is the story 4490 03:33:48,379 --> 03:33:52,561 of a band called The Tritons, led by Thor, 4491 03:33:52,585 --> 03:33:56,700 who was a very popular wrestler, rock and roller. 4492 03:33:56,724 --> 03:33:59,010 He was very popular up in Canada. 4493 03:33:59,033 --> 03:34:03,251 So this band comes to this tiny little farmhouse 4494 03:34:03,274 --> 03:34:05,112 on the outskirts of Toronto 4495 03:34:05,137 --> 03:34:07,837 to record their new album. 4496 03:34:07,861 --> 03:34:09,354 It's kind of like a vacation. 4497 03:34:09,379 --> 03:34:11,630 I like it. 4498 03:34:11,655 --> 03:34:12,458 You would. 4499 03:34:12,481 --> 03:34:13,287 Come on you two. 4500 03:34:13,310 --> 03:34:14,561 Don't start. 4501 03:34:14,585 --> 03:34:15,941 It turns out that they are in a house 4502 03:34:15,965 --> 03:34:18,931 that had been possessed. 4503 03:34:21,965 --> 03:34:24,388 And one by one, they start being killed off 4504 03:34:24,413 --> 03:34:25,931 by these demos. 4505 03:34:30,448 --> 03:34:31,493 Kind of this quirky movie 4506 03:34:31,516 --> 03:34:33,286 directed by John Fasano. 4507 03:34:33,309 --> 03:34:34,906 It's hard to call these things demons. 4508 03:34:34,931 --> 03:34:35,965 They're puppets. 4509 03:34:37,550 --> 03:34:38,630 I can destroy and destruct- 4510 03:34:40,172 --> 03:34:43,976 Demons that are rejects from Fraggle Rock. 4511 03:34:44,000 --> 03:34:46,871 We talked so much about the glorious age 4512 03:34:46,896 --> 03:34:48,871 of practical effects of the 80s, 4513 03:34:48,896 --> 03:34:52,655 but sometimes, they were not so glorious. 4514 03:34:58,102 --> 03:34:59,734 My favorite monster effect 4515 03:34:59,757 --> 03:35:02,595 in "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare" is one that I did. 4516 03:35:02,620 --> 03:35:03,931 The chicken monster. 4517 03:35:06,240 --> 03:35:08,424 That was a really fun project to work on. 4518 03:35:08,448 --> 03:35:10,413 And then I got to puppeteer it. 4519 03:35:14,792 --> 03:35:17,112 Jon Thor is a sweetheart. 4520 03:35:17,137 --> 03:35:18,527 He's always so positive. 4521 03:35:18,550 --> 03:35:20,251 He was up for anything. 4522 03:35:20,274 --> 03:35:22,941 ♪ You get me any day 4523 03:35:22,965 --> 03:35:24,147 ♪ Energy 4524 03:35:24,172 --> 03:35:26,906 It was November, and we had that wind 4525 03:35:26,931 --> 03:35:28,665 coming off of Lake Ontario, 4526 03:35:28,689 --> 03:35:30,941 hitting you like a brick wall. 4527 03:35:30,965 --> 03:35:32,595 This house that we were shooting in, 4528 03:35:32,620 --> 03:35:35,700 which had no electricity, had no hot water, 4529 03:35:35,724 --> 03:35:38,976 and they're in a shower, buck naked in this shower, 4530 03:35:39,000 --> 03:35:41,630 freezing to death. 4531 03:35:41,655 --> 03:35:44,354 I mean, that water was ice cold. 4532 03:35:44,379 --> 03:35:47,516 But the ending is not to be missed. 4533 03:35:50,757 --> 03:35:53,941 I walked onto set, and I saw Jon standing there 4534 03:35:53,965 --> 03:35:57,630 in this little gold speedo, and codpiece, 4535 03:35:57,655 --> 03:36:00,182 and this gold lame cape. 4536 03:36:00,206 --> 03:36:01,458 And at one point, I looked over, 4537 03:36:01,481 --> 03:36:03,802 and I could see his cape was starting 4538 03:36:03,826 --> 03:36:05,941 to spark and catch fire. 4539 03:36:05,965 --> 03:36:07,458 Oh my god, that would have been 4540 03:36:07,481 --> 03:36:10,413 just the icing on the cake for sure. 4541 03:36:12,620 --> 03:36:14,871 Of course, you gotta love the big devil at the end. 4542 03:36:14,896 --> 03:36:17,000 It was a disaster. 4543 03:36:18,137 --> 03:36:19,388 Nice effect, Randy. 4544 03:36:19,413 --> 03:36:21,043 It weighed 50 pounds at least. 4545 03:36:21,067 --> 03:36:23,043 And it was so unwieldy. 4546 03:36:23,067 --> 03:36:24,861 It was just a mess. 4547 03:36:26,000 --> 03:36:27,561 But of course that's the scene that everybody 4548 03:36:27,585 --> 03:36:30,665 loves the most in that movie, because it's so outrageous. 4549 03:36:30,689 --> 03:36:32,826 Like you have to see this to believe it. 4550 03:36:46,206 --> 03:36:48,424 "Jaws" follows in a line of horror films 4551 03:36:48,448 --> 03:36:51,585 where nature is out to kill you. 4552 03:36:54,000 --> 03:36:57,319 "Jaws: The Revenge". 4553 03:36:57,343 --> 03:37:00,182 It's just the idea that meeting a shark 4554 03:37:00,206 --> 03:37:01,837 face to face in the water 4555 03:37:01,861 --> 03:37:05,792 is more likely than finding Jason Voorhees in the water. 4556 03:37:07,240 --> 03:37:08,976 The Jaws sequels were never like the first movie, 4557 03:37:09,000 --> 03:37:10,837 and so anytime they sequelize something, 4558 03:37:10,861 --> 03:37:12,976 it was like, oh god, what are they gonna do? 4559 03:37:13,000 --> 03:37:15,769 Lorraine Gary, who once again stars 4560 03:37:15,792 --> 03:37:18,112 as Chief Brody's wife, now a widow, 4561 03:37:18,137 --> 03:37:20,286 she travels to the Bahamas, 4562 03:37:20,309 --> 03:37:22,078 and what do you know? 4563 03:37:22,102 --> 03:37:25,206 That goddam shark is still after her. 4564 03:37:33,516 --> 03:37:36,147 And she's convinced that the shark 4565 03:37:36,172 --> 03:37:38,147 is following her family, 4566 03:37:38,172 --> 03:37:41,043 and she seems to have some telepathic link 4567 03:37:41,067 --> 03:37:42,585 with the shark. 4568 03:37:45,931 --> 03:37:48,620 It's such a far cry from Spielberg's original. 4569 03:37:50,481 --> 03:37:53,286 Just like the idea of a shark being a slasher movie 4570 03:37:53,309 --> 03:37:56,424 villain that's gonna follow these people 4571 03:37:56,448 --> 03:37:59,769 from Amity Island to the Bahamas. 4572 03:37:59,792 --> 03:38:02,527 It has a grudge against the Brody family. 4573 03:38:02,550 --> 03:38:04,802 It's just absolutely ridiculous. 4574 03:38:04,826 --> 03:38:06,458 - Their family- - What shark is this? 4575 03:38:06,481 --> 03:38:07,769 A friend of the other shark. 4576 03:38:07,792 --> 03:38:09,010 Is this like a cousin, a nephew? 4577 03:38:09,033 --> 03:38:09,977 You got it. 4578 03:38:10,001 --> 03:38:11,043 They just 4579 03:38:11,067 --> 03:38:12,906 put that movie together, really quick. 4580 03:38:12,931 --> 03:38:14,837 They cast all of us before they even made 4581 03:38:14,861 --> 03:38:17,112 the arrangements with the special effects guys. 4582 03:38:17,137 --> 03:38:19,354 They kind of did them almost at the last minute, 4583 03:38:19,379 --> 03:38:20,769 and they were like, wait a minute. 4584 03:38:20,792 --> 03:38:23,561 We can't do this, what you wrote in the script. 4585 03:38:23,585 --> 03:38:25,286 We can do something like this, 4586 03:38:25,309 --> 03:38:26,976 but we can't do that. 4587 03:38:27,000 --> 03:38:29,354 So they had to rewrite the scripts. 4588 03:38:29,379 --> 03:38:30,837 I got a script that I thought 4589 03:38:30,861 --> 03:38:32,147 oh, this is a pretty good script, you know? 4590 03:38:32,172 --> 03:38:33,665 I believe it, I play this guy. 4591 03:38:33,689 --> 03:38:35,217 Everything this guy does makes sense. 4592 03:38:35,240 --> 03:38:36,665 This is not gonna be stupid. 4593 03:38:36,689 --> 03:38:38,112 It's gonna be great. 4594 03:38:38,137 --> 03:38:39,837 About three days before we started shooting, 4595 03:38:39,861 --> 03:38:41,458 I get a new script 4596 03:38:41,481 --> 03:38:43,665 that accommodates all the technical stuff 4597 03:38:43,689 --> 03:38:45,837 that can be done. 4598 03:38:45,861 --> 03:38:48,493 For me, was like, oh god. 4599 03:38:48,516 --> 03:38:50,458 I couldn't make sense of it, 4600 03:38:50,481 --> 03:38:52,240 so I was pissed off all the time. 4601 03:38:53,655 --> 03:38:56,286 We were like that, you just try not to make it unbelievable 4602 03:38:56,309 --> 03:38:58,309 and it's hard. 4603 03:39:03,448 --> 03:39:06,240 I didn't know sharks sound like that. 4604 03:39:08,172 --> 03:39:09,448 Jesus Christ! 4605 03:39:12,655 --> 03:39:14,802 What's great about it is Christmas. 4606 03:39:14,826 --> 03:39:16,354 Who saw that coming? 4607 03:39:16,379 --> 03:39:19,665 Like, "Jaws 4: The Revenge", Christmas Jaws. 4608 03:39:19,689 --> 03:39:21,665 ♪ The first noel 4609 03:39:21,689 --> 03:39:23,354 ♪ The angels 4610 03:39:23,379 --> 03:39:24,976 We blew through most of the acting 4611 03:39:25,000 --> 03:39:27,493 in three weeks in that movie. 4612 03:39:27,516 --> 03:39:29,458 I was on that movie for five months. 4613 03:39:29,481 --> 03:39:32,527 So there was a lot of sitting out in the ocean. 4614 03:39:32,550 --> 03:39:35,734 We spent months sitting doing nothing 4615 03:39:35,757 --> 03:39:37,240 because the shark didn't work. 4616 03:39:38,413 --> 03:39:39,595 We were shooting this one scene, 4617 03:39:39,620 --> 03:39:41,769 and it was in a little, little tiny rowboat. 4618 03:39:41,792 --> 03:39:43,251 The whole boat goes down. 4619 03:39:43,274 --> 03:39:45,906 The battery pack that powers the camera 4620 03:39:45,931 --> 03:39:48,871 is encased in plastic, but it might leak. 4621 03:39:48,896 --> 03:39:51,976 So as soon as that becomes submerged, 4622 03:39:52,000 --> 03:39:54,976 this hand grabs me by the shirt 4623 03:39:55,000 --> 03:39:57,182 with one hand, yanks me out of the boat. 4624 03:39:57,206 --> 03:39:58,113 It was Michael Caine. 4625 03:39:58,138 --> 03:40:00,354 Get the fuck out of that boat! 4626 03:40:00,379 --> 03:40:01,734 I mean, I don't know that I would have been electrocuted, 4627 03:40:01,757 --> 03:40:03,527 but that's what he was thinking. 4628 03:40:03,550 --> 03:40:05,319 So he just acted like that. 4629 03:40:05,343 --> 03:40:07,078 Hang onto your socks, lads. 4630 03:40:07,102 --> 03:40:09,757 Michael Caine saved my life. 4631 03:40:10,965 --> 03:40:14,861 Oh shit! 4632 03:40:22,516 --> 03:40:24,424 Even if you kill them, 4633 03:40:24,448 --> 03:40:26,837 they're still deadly. 4634 03:40:26,861 --> 03:40:27,861 "Creepozoids". 4635 03:40:28,655 --> 03:40:29,665 "Creepozoids". 4636 03:40:29,689 --> 03:40:31,802 Fun movie, little TNA 4637 03:40:31,826 --> 03:40:33,941 with a wonderful director, David DeCoteau, 4638 03:40:33,965 --> 03:40:36,516 who remains one of my closest friends. 4639 03:40:41,379 --> 03:40:46,274 "Creepozoids" is a very, very, very low budget alien. 4640 03:40:49,309 --> 03:40:51,734 It was really fun, because we did it in, 4641 03:40:51,757 --> 03:40:54,976 which then, was really quick, seven days. 4642 03:40:55,000 --> 03:40:57,458 This place may not have all the comforts of civilization. 4643 03:40:57,481 --> 03:40:59,388 Civilization doesn't have all the comforts 4644 03:40:59,413 --> 03:41:01,595 of civilization anymore. 4645 03:41:01,620 --> 03:41:02,528 That's just my point. 4646 03:41:02,551 --> 03:41:05,147 There's this horrible thing 4647 03:41:05,172 --> 03:41:07,941 out after us that was not from this earth, 4648 03:41:07,965 --> 03:41:10,102 and it's killing us one by one. 4649 03:41:17,965 --> 03:41:21,354 When you are doing low budget things, 4650 03:41:21,379 --> 03:41:24,217 the monsters are usually very fragile. 4651 03:41:24,240 --> 03:41:26,976 You had to be very careful of these monsters. 4652 03:41:27,000 --> 03:41:30,630 So you're battling, but holding back too, 4653 03:41:30,655 --> 03:41:32,448 because you could break them. 4654 03:41:37,448 --> 03:41:39,217 My mom came to set, 4655 03:41:39,240 --> 03:41:41,493 and both of us are afraid of rats. 4656 03:41:41,516 --> 03:41:42,595 So what do they have? 4657 03:41:42,620 --> 03:41:45,379 These huge rats. 4658 03:41:52,757 --> 03:41:54,630 It didn't look bad, that baby mutant, 4659 03:41:54,655 --> 03:41:56,689 but it was kind of silly. 4660 03:41:59,689 --> 03:42:03,043 It was a fun adventure, because that was the first time 4661 03:42:03,067 --> 03:42:06,871 I really got to fight, and be like, no makeup, 4662 03:42:06,896 --> 03:42:08,516 and a soldier. 4663 03:42:10,000 --> 03:42:14,043 I did, in "Creepozoids", hae to battle a stuntperson, 4664 03:42:14,067 --> 03:42:16,493 which was interesting, because they go all out 4665 03:42:16,516 --> 03:42:18,043 I'm like oh, I'm gonna get killed. 4666 03:42:18,067 --> 03:42:19,585 I'm gonna get hurt. 4667 03:42:22,481 --> 03:42:25,010 Linnea and I go back to a movie I made 4668 03:42:25,033 --> 03:42:26,906 1000 years before that, which is hard to believe, 4669 03:42:26,931 --> 03:42:28,976 called "Fairytales", and before that, 4670 03:42:29,000 --> 03:42:31,112 a movie called "Auditions". 4671 03:42:31,137 --> 03:42:32,388 It became apparent that most 4672 03:42:32,413 --> 03:42:34,976 of the female applicants were non-professionals. 4673 03:42:35,000 --> 03:42:37,319 The whole idea was they would come in, 4674 03:42:37,343 --> 03:42:39,976 sign a release, get paid I think $10, 4675 03:42:40,000 --> 03:42:42,354 because we made it clear that their audition 4676 03:42:42,379 --> 03:42:44,043 was gonna be used in the movie. 4677 03:42:44,067 --> 03:42:45,700 And the girls had to take their tops off, 4678 03:42:45,724 --> 03:42:47,837 because they had to be kind of sexy 4679 03:42:47,861 --> 03:42:49,217 fairy godmother, Cinderella. 4680 03:42:49,240 --> 03:42:50,906 I forget the story. 4681 03:42:50,931 --> 03:42:52,700 Many years later, suddenly she's back 4682 03:42:52,724 --> 03:42:55,078 as a more mature still very young woman 4683 03:42:55,102 --> 03:42:57,112 in the lead of "Creepozoids". 4684 03:42:57,137 --> 03:42:59,561 When I did "Creepozoids", this one girl 4685 03:42:59,585 --> 03:43:02,112 would not do a topless scene. 4686 03:43:02,137 --> 03:43:03,595 She was such a prude, I thought. 4687 03:43:03,620 --> 03:43:06,147 And she was doing all this backstory on herself, 4688 03:43:06,172 --> 03:43:08,493 like who is my mother, who is my father. 4689 03:43:08,516 --> 03:43:11,493 On a $60,000 film. 4690 03:43:11,516 --> 03:43:13,251 But she went on to big things. 4691 03:43:13,274 --> 03:43:15,217 She became a porn star. 4692 03:43:15,240 --> 03:43:17,147 And I was like, wait a minute. 4693 03:43:17,172 --> 03:43:18,319 You wouldn't take off your top. 4694 03:43:18,343 --> 03:43:19,802 Now you're a porn star. 4695 03:43:19,826 --> 03:43:22,757 Let's not turn this into a slumber party, okay? 4696 03:43:40,067 --> 03:43:42,182 "Zombie Nightmare" is the story of a young man 4697 03:43:42,206 --> 03:43:45,217 who is murdered, run over with a car 4698 03:43:45,240 --> 03:43:47,343 by these bunch of teenagers. 4699 03:43:50,481 --> 03:43:53,286 His mother goes to a voodoo woman 4700 03:43:53,309 --> 03:43:54,734 to bring him back to life 4701 03:43:54,757 --> 03:43:57,595 to take revenge on these kids, 4702 03:43:57,620 --> 03:43:59,000 these spoiled brats. 4703 03:44:00,379 --> 03:44:01,355 See look, I told you. 4704 03:44:01,379 --> 03:44:02,585 There's nobody here. 4705 03:44:06,724 --> 03:44:09,871 At the same time, there are two detectives 4706 03:44:09,896 --> 03:44:11,424 working to try to figure out 4707 03:44:11,448 --> 03:44:13,388 who's killing these kids. 4708 03:44:13,413 --> 03:44:15,319 Let's not have any more high school kids 4709 03:44:15,343 --> 03:44:16,665 turn up dead. 4710 03:44:16,689 --> 03:44:17,871 Understand? 4711 03:44:17,896 --> 03:44:21,010 The script was actually much better 4712 03:44:21,033 --> 03:44:24,941 than the final film, that John Fasano wrote, by the way. 4713 03:44:24,965 --> 03:44:27,976 It was about racial tensions, also. 4714 03:44:28,000 --> 03:44:28,907 Pretty young thing has just walked 4715 03:44:28,932 --> 03:44:30,354 into the wrong neighborhood. 4716 03:44:30,379 --> 03:44:32,388 I do believe you're right, Mr. Barnes. 4717 03:44:32,413 --> 03:44:33,595 Hey, don't be so uptight- 4718 03:44:33,620 --> 03:44:35,802 I went to Montreal with Adam West. 4719 03:44:35,826 --> 03:44:37,147 It was surreal. 4720 03:44:37,172 --> 03:44:38,837 It was like, I can't believe this. 4721 03:44:38,861 --> 03:44:41,527 I'm acting in a monster movie 4722 03:44:41,550 --> 03:44:43,354 with my childhood hero. 4723 03:44:43,379 --> 03:44:44,379 Come on, Frank. 4724 03:44:45,379 --> 03:44:46,826 I'll buy you a drink. 4725 03:44:47,757 --> 03:44:49,976 Jon Thor, he actually replaced 4726 03:44:50,000 --> 03:44:53,354 the original zombie actor in "Zombie Nightmare". 4727 03:44:53,379 --> 03:44:56,976 We actually filmed the end of the movie first 4728 03:44:57,000 --> 03:45:00,665 so the zombie was still played by Peewee, the stuntman. 4729 03:45:00,689 --> 03:45:02,792 And he's big guy. 4730 03:45:07,792 --> 03:45:11,354 I'm the young detective, and I arrive at this garage, 4731 03:45:11,379 --> 03:45:13,561 and I get there just in time to see 4732 03:45:13,585 --> 03:45:15,769 the zombie kill Tia Carrere. 4733 03:45:15,792 --> 03:45:17,147 Right? 4734 03:45:17,172 --> 03:45:17,977 Police! 4735 03:45:18,001 --> 03:45:19,274 Hands in the air! 4736 03:45:21,550 --> 03:45:24,147 He knocks the gun aside, 4737 03:45:24,172 --> 03:45:25,388 and picks me up by the throat, 4738 03:45:25,413 --> 03:45:27,516 and then throws me onto a car. 4739 03:45:30,240 --> 03:45:31,595 It's my first movie. 4740 03:45:31,620 --> 03:45:32,871 I'm fighting a monster. 4741 03:45:32,896 --> 03:45:34,931 This is what I wanted my whole life, right? 4742 03:45:36,274 --> 03:45:38,493 Mystery Science Theater discovering "Zombie Nightmare" 4743 03:45:38,516 --> 03:45:42,595 definitely saved that movie from disappearing forever. 4744 03:45:42,620 --> 03:45:44,388 It's called "Zombie Nightmare", 4745 03:45:44,413 --> 03:45:47,206 and it stars Adam West and... 4746 03:45:49,516 --> 03:45:52,217 There's a scene when one of the zombie characters 4747 03:45:52,240 --> 03:45:54,182 is essentially dying. 4748 03:45:54,206 --> 03:45:56,700 His mouth is open, and his eyes have sunken back, 4749 03:45:56,724 --> 03:45:59,906 and there's all of this mist coming out of him. 4750 03:45:59,931 --> 03:46:01,769 At the time I thought, oh wow. 4751 03:46:01,792 --> 03:46:03,493 That really looks good. 4752 03:46:03,516 --> 03:46:06,837 Maybe this is gonna be good. 4753 03:46:06,861 --> 03:46:10,112 I had hope, anyway. 4754 03:46:10,137 --> 03:46:10,977 Kill me! 4755 03:46:11,001 --> 03:46:12,286 Kill me, Frank! 4756 03:46:12,309 --> 03:46:13,516 Frank! 4757 03:46:24,033 --> 03:46:26,319 "The Video Dead". 4758 03:46:26,343 --> 03:46:29,665 I love "Video Dead", because it does something different 4759 03:46:29,689 --> 03:46:31,379 with the zombie genre. 4760 03:46:34,689 --> 03:46:38,734 We're given this weird nightmarish suburbia, 4761 03:46:38,757 --> 03:46:41,112 where these zombies are killing people, 4762 03:46:41,137 --> 03:46:44,319 but they all have a story. 4763 03:46:44,343 --> 03:46:45,561 They try to live. 4764 03:46:45,585 --> 03:46:47,000 Like, they try to adapt. 4765 03:46:50,379 --> 03:46:52,906 You have this haunted TV that gets delivered. 4766 03:46:52,931 --> 03:46:54,458 And initially it goes to a writer 4767 03:46:54,481 --> 03:46:55,630 in the opening of the film, 4768 03:46:55,655 --> 03:46:57,251 who's played by Michael St. Michaels, 4769 03:46:57,274 --> 03:46:58,665 who would eventually go on to become 4770 03:46:58,689 --> 03:46:59,965 the Greasy Strangler. 4771 03:47:01,343 --> 03:47:05,182 The TV somehow is a portal for this zombie movie, 4772 03:47:05,206 --> 03:47:08,240 but also real zombies as well. 4773 03:47:09,826 --> 03:47:12,078 That's the first movie I've ever died twice in, 4774 03:47:12,102 --> 03:47:13,481 and one time I killed me. 4775 03:47:14,896 --> 03:47:17,906 When I shot it, I was the first 20 minutes of the film. 4776 03:47:17,931 --> 03:47:19,769 The distributor didn't want that, 4777 03:47:19,792 --> 03:47:22,424 so they took out a bunch of my scenes. 4778 03:47:22,448 --> 03:47:24,734 The hardest thing I did in "The Video Dead" 4779 03:47:24,757 --> 03:47:26,078 was being dead. 4780 03:47:26,102 --> 03:47:27,906 That scene where they open the door. 4781 03:47:27,931 --> 03:47:29,802 We had to do that two or three times 4782 03:47:29,826 --> 03:47:32,448 because I could not stop shivering. 4783 03:47:33,343 --> 03:47:34,561 Holy shit! 4784 03:47:34,585 --> 03:47:35,630 A few days later, they called me up 4785 03:47:35,655 --> 03:47:37,217 and said would I be interested 4786 03:47:37,240 --> 03:47:39,734 in being in the movie some more? 4787 03:47:39,757 --> 03:47:42,286 I came back as Jack the Zombie. 4788 03:47:42,309 --> 03:47:46,112 The actor who originally played Jack the Zombie had died. 4789 03:47:46,137 --> 03:47:47,769 I don't know how or why, 4790 03:47:47,792 --> 03:47:49,251 so they had a vacancy, and I was 4791 03:47:49,274 --> 03:47:52,000 the right height and weight. 4792 03:47:54,757 --> 03:47:57,043 All those zombies had personality. 4793 03:47:57,067 --> 03:47:59,424 They weren't just eating brains 4794 03:47:59,448 --> 03:48:01,906 for the sake of eating brains. 4795 03:48:01,931 --> 03:48:03,043 They were going places. 4796 03:48:03,067 --> 03:48:04,206 They were doing things. 4797 03:48:07,481 --> 03:48:09,217 Those are some of the best zombies we have 4798 03:48:09,240 --> 03:48:11,182 of the entire 1980s decade. 4799 03:48:11,206 --> 03:48:14,655 The bride zombie, she's doing all these domestic things. 4800 03:48:18,481 --> 03:48:22,527 And then you have the rockabilly Flock of Seagulls zombie, 4801 03:48:22,550 --> 03:48:25,516 who's kind of like the ladies man of the zombies. 4802 03:48:30,655 --> 03:48:34,424 My favorite scene is when I'm the way too cool zombie. 4803 03:48:34,448 --> 03:48:38,734 Yes, I like you, you know? 4804 03:48:38,757 --> 03:48:41,481 I could tell I really creeped her out. 4805 03:48:43,240 --> 03:48:45,700 I really enjoyed working with Robert Scott. 4806 03:48:45,724 --> 03:48:47,561 He really didn't want anybody to know 4807 03:48:47,585 --> 03:48:51,448 that that film had only cost $35,000. 4808 03:48:52,620 --> 03:48:54,802 It was shot on video, transferred to film, 4809 03:48:54,826 --> 03:48:58,481 and then transferred back to video again. 4810 03:49:02,792 --> 03:49:05,217 It was generating a nice amount of money here and there, 4811 03:49:05,240 --> 03:49:08,595 prior to Avco Embassy going bankrupt. 4812 03:49:08,620 --> 03:49:11,240 People were impressed that I was in it. 4813 03:49:12,481 --> 03:49:14,078 I didn't have to pay for video rentals 4814 03:49:14,102 --> 03:49:15,689 in a couple video stores. 4815 03:49:17,102 --> 03:49:19,424 This bar I hung out at kept me drunk 4816 03:49:19,448 --> 03:49:21,286 for about six months, because I brought in 4817 03:49:21,309 --> 03:49:24,896 a copy of the thing and showed it at the bar. 4818 03:49:30,861 --> 03:49:31,941 People look at that film, and they wonder 4819 03:49:31,965 --> 03:49:33,458 whatever happened to that guy. 4820 03:49:33,481 --> 03:49:36,792 And now they get their answer in "The Greasy Strangler". 4821 03:49:50,033 --> 03:49:52,147 "Slumber Party Massacre II". 4822 03:49:52,172 --> 03:49:54,976 If you go, don't go all the way. 4823 03:49:55,000 --> 03:49:56,769 Oh god, anybody got any tranqs? 4824 03:49:56,792 --> 03:49:59,527 A lot of us straight boys 4825 03:49:59,550 --> 03:50:02,561 used to wonder in deep thought 4826 03:50:02,585 --> 03:50:04,493 about what must be going on 4827 03:50:04,516 --> 03:50:06,516 when girls are having a slumber party. 4828 03:50:07,448 --> 03:50:09,424 You look like a big chicken. 4829 03:50:09,448 --> 03:50:10,665 Bawk, bawk, bawk! 4830 03:50:10,689 --> 03:50:12,286 I love the "Slumber Party Massacre" series. 4831 03:50:12,309 --> 03:50:14,251 They're all written and directed by women, 4832 03:50:14,274 --> 03:50:16,896 and that shows in the content of the film. 4833 03:50:24,585 --> 03:50:26,217 One of the cool things about "Slumber Party Massacre 1" 4834 03:50:26,240 --> 03:50:28,769 is that it's really satirizing the slasher genre 4835 03:50:28,792 --> 03:50:30,458 at a time when the conversation around 4836 03:50:30,481 --> 03:50:33,182 whether or not slasher films were feminist. 4837 03:50:33,206 --> 03:50:36,067 But "Slumber Party Massacre 2" takes that and runs with it. 4838 03:50:36,931 --> 03:50:37,907 Come on baby! 4839 03:50:37,932 --> 03:50:39,413 We gonna rock and roll! 4840 03:50:41,240 --> 03:50:45,112 "Slumber Party Massacre 2" is actually a meta film. 4841 03:50:45,137 --> 03:50:48,630 A comment on those kinds of slasher movies, 4842 03:50:48,655 --> 03:50:51,343 at the same time that it is one. 4843 03:50:56,102 --> 03:50:58,251 Plus, it's a musical. 4844 03:50:58,274 --> 03:51:00,976 ♪ I love to jam it to the floor ♪ 4845 03:51:01,000 --> 03:51:02,734 ♪ Let its wild parts roar 4846 03:51:02,757 --> 03:51:05,424 I was working for Roger Corman, 4847 03:51:05,448 --> 03:51:09,010 and I said Roger, I'd really like to direct something, 4848 03:51:09,033 --> 03:51:11,458 and he said, okay. 4849 03:51:11,481 --> 03:51:14,388 I have something you can direct immediately. 4850 03:51:14,413 --> 03:51:17,802 He said "Slumber Party Massacre II". 4851 03:51:17,826 --> 03:51:21,689 We have to make it, because I've sold all the rights to it. 4852 03:51:23,172 --> 03:51:24,595 "Slumber Party Massacre II" is about some girls 4853 03:51:24,620 --> 03:51:27,837 who get away for a slumber party at a cottage, 4854 03:51:27,861 --> 03:51:32,217 and it's interrupted by a musical icon serial killer, 4855 03:51:32,240 --> 03:51:33,802 who is going to sing and kill them 4856 03:51:33,826 --> 03:51:36,000 with his crazy guitar. 4857 03:51:37,240 --> 03:51:38,871 Yoo-hoo! 4858 03:51:38,896 --> 03:51:40,217 I'm home! 4859 03:51:40,240 --> 03:51:41,769 What could be more evil 4860 03:51:41,792 --> 03:51:45,000 than a weaponized electric guitar? 4861 03:51:47,413 --> 03:51:49,274 To drill poor innocent victims' heads in? 4862 03:51:51,585 --> 03:51:54,182 I couldn't think of anything that represented 4863 03:51:54,206 --> 03:51:57,424 the phallic nature of rock music 4864 03:51:57,448 --> 03:52:01,067 any better than a guitar that had a drill on the end. 4865 03:52:02,309 --> 03:52:04,561 Atanas Ilitch plays the driller killer. 4866 03:52:04,585 --> 03:52:08,630 And this is Atanas Ilitch's only album. 4867 03:52:08,655 --> 03:52:12,757 If you look, he's holding a cat on the back. 4868 03:52:15,481 --> 03:52:19,182 He was full of lots of enthusiasm and ideas, 4869 03:52:19,206 --> 03:52:21,700 and I didn't have a choreographer, 4870 03:52:21,724 --> 03:52:26,354 so he and I had to make up his "Let's Buzz" dance together, 4871 03:52:26,379 --> 03:52:27,976 and the chorus was 4872 03:52:28,000 --> 03:52:29,941 ♪ Let's buzz 4873 03:52:29,965 --> 03:52:30,976 He's out there. 4874 03:52:31,000 --> 03:52:32,458 ♪ Let's buzz 4875 03:52:32,481 --> 03:52:34,792 It was a sexy song. 4876 03:52:35,965 --> 03:52:38,837 My favorite two things is the dead chicken 4877 03:52:38,861 --> 03:52:40,976 that jumps out of the refrigerator 4878 03:52:41,000 --> 03:52:43,802 onto Crystal Bernard's chest, 4879 03:52:43,826 --> 03:52:47,516 and spews weird liquid out of its cut neck. 4880 03:52:51,655 --> 03:52:54,078 The other one is they're driving away, 4881 03:52:54,102 --> 03:52:57,354 and the Driller Killer, of course, is in the backseat, 4882 03:52:57,379 --> 03:53:02,033 and he drills the kid who's driving through the seat. 4883 03:53:06,757 --> 03:53:11,043 It sold a tremendous amount of video cassettes 4884 03:53:11,067 --> 03:53:14,010 which was what Roger wanted to sell at that point. 4885 03:53:14,033 --> 03:53:16,769 He said it made over $6 million 4886 03:53:16,792 --> 03:53:20,734 on a $390,000 budget. 4887 03:53:20,757 --> 03:53:23,769 It actually got banned in the UK. 4888 03:53:23,792 --> 03:53:25,871 They wrote a letter to Roger 4889 03:53:25,896 --> 03:53:29,319 saying you can't show this film in the UK 4890 03:53:29,343 --> 03:53:33,976 because it's a particularly virulent combination 4891 03:53:34,000 --> 03:53:36,172 of sex and violence. 4892 03:53:40,792 --> 03:53:42,319 I wish I had a copy of that letter. 4893 03:53:42,343 --> 03:53:45,527 They sounded extremely offended. 4894 03:53:45,550 --> 03:53:47,976 The way she broken my heart, 4895 03:53:48,000 --> 03:53:50,112 it made me cry, 4896 03:53:50,137 --> 03:53:53,379 so don't you know she had to die. 4897 03:53:59,931 --> 03:54:02,561 The 80s, like any other film decade, 4898 03:54:02,585 --> 03:54:04,286 was about transition. 4899 03:54:04,309 --> 03:54:06,561 I think that there was forward motion in a lot of fronts, 4900 03:54:06,585 --> 03:54:08,458 and there was backward motion in a lot of fronts. 4901 03:54:08,481 --> 03:54:10,286 Move lady, or I'm gonna blow off 4902 03:54:10,309 --> 03:54:11,734 your old man's 'acho bizeezhiis! 4903 03:54:11,757 --> 03:54:14,043 The 80s was before we were PC. 4904 03:54:14,067 --> 03:54:17,010 Gay people, black people, Asian people, 4905 03:54:17,033 --> 03:54:19,595 in the 80s movies were always the butt of the joke. 4906 03:54:19,620 --> 03:54:20,906 And we just dealt with it. 4907 03:54:20,931 --> 03:54:22,424 We were just used to it. 4908 03:54:22,448 --> 03:54:26,424 Urban stereotypes of black people, Asian stereotypes. 4909 03:54:26,448 --> 03:54:28,112 And yes, they were harmful, 4910 03:54:28,137 --> 03:54:30,286 but we weren't as aware that they were harmful, 4911 03:54:30,309 --> 03:54:33,413 because we just had not awakened ourselves yet. 4912 03:54:39,379 --> 03:54:40,906 No! 4913 03:54:40,931 --> 03:54:42,871 I think stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason, 4914 03:54:42,896 --> 03:54:45,010 because there's a lot of truth in them. 4915 03:54:45,033 --> 03:54:47,837 But I also think that the 80s is more complicated 4916 03:54:47,861 --> 03:54:50,354 and messier than just a reductive, 4917 03:54:50,379 --> 03:54:52,516 the black guy dies first rule. 4918 03:54:58,309 --> 03:55:01,147 I look back at Romero, "Night of the Living Dead", 4919 03:55:01,172 --> 03:55:02,837 a black leading man. 4920 03:55:02,861 --> 03:55:05,286 Very bold move on his part. 4921 03:55:05,309 --> 03:55:08,010 He wasn't there as a symbol of a black man. 4922 03:55:08,033 --> 03:55:10,102 He was there just as a man. 4923 03:55:12,206 --> 03:55:14,424 What people don't give Romero enough credit for 4924 03:55:14,448 --> 03:55:17,217 is that in his zombie trilogy, Romero's always 4925 03:55:17,240 --> 03:55:19,147 putting the underdog at the front. 4926 03:55:19,172 --> 03:55:20,319 Get out of the way, bitch, 4927 03:55:20,343 --> 03:55:21,863 or I'll go right through you with this. 4928 03:55:24,585 --> 03:55:27,388 We're getting to make this a habit, man. 4929 03:55:27,413 --> 03:55:29,595 "Night of the Comet", we had a Mexican man 4930 03:55:29,620 --> 03:55:32,734 as the male lead, which, because it's Los Angeles, 4931 03:55:32,757 --> 03:55:34,527 we didn't think anything of that, 4932 03:55:34,550 --> 03:55:36,931 but everybody else was like, whoa! 4933 03:55:38,000 --> 03:55:38,941 Jeez! 4934 03:55:38,965 --> 03:55:40,084 There goes the neighborhood! 4935 03:55:41,172 --> 03:55:45,931 In those days, it was defiant to cast a Latino. 4936 03:55:48,274 --> 03:55:50,286 I would be very happy when I would watch 4937 03:55:50,309 --> 03:55:53,630 a horror movie back then, and see 4938 03:55:53,655 --> 03:55:56,965 the kind of diversity that did show up. 4939 03:56:00,000 --> 03:56:01,182 Want one? 4940 03:56:01,206 --> 03:56:03,354 Because representation is such a new idea, 4941 03:56:03,379 --> 03:56:05,906 because sometimes you don't know what you don't have, 4942 03:56:05,931 --> 03:56:07,286 until you start to get it, 4943 03:56:07,309 --> 03:56:08,388 and then you're like, oh. 4944 03:56:08,413 --> 03:56:09,792 We didn't have this before. 4945 03:56:11,000 --> 03:56:12,251 Oh, look at that face. 4946 03:56:12,274 --> 03:56:13,620 Okay do the other one. 4947 03:56:15,689 --> 03:56:18,458 I'm from a Filipino family, 4948 03:56:18,481 --> 03:56:22,286 and our culture was never represented. 4949 03:56:22,309 --> 03:56:25,976 Unfortunately, even today, we're very limited. 4950 03:56:26,000 --> 03:56:29,043 Looking back on the way casting was in the 80s, 4951 03:56:29,067 --> 03:56:32,802 I know it can be easy to be upset at the past, 4952 03:56:32,826 --> 03:56:35,354 but it was of its time, 4953 03:56:35,379 --> 03:56:37,481 and it was kind of rough. 4954 03:56:39,274 --> 03:56:40,078 No! 4955 03:56:40,102 --> 03:56:41,102 No! 4956 03:56:42,481 --> 03:56:44,458 In the rare instances where you do see yourself 4957 03:56:44,481 --> 03:56:46,769 represented onscreen, or something that is even 4958 03:56:46,792 --> 03:56:49,871 closely akin to you, and it's shown in a negative way, 4959 03:56:49,896 --> 03:56:52,251 or there's violence being done to this person, 4960 03:56:52,274 --> 03:56:53,655 it weighs on you. 4961 03:56:55,413 --> 03:56:58,941 I feel like we can learn from our mistakes, 4962 03:56:58,965 --> 03:57:01,388 but not beat ourselves up about it, 4963 03:57:01,413 --> 03:57:05,206 and not feel like we have to change the edit. 4964 03:57:08,861 --> 03:57:10,147 I don't think we need to throw away 4965 03:57:10,172 --> 03:57:12,217 representation that isn't perfect, 4966 03:57:12,240 --> 03:57:15,424 and in the 1980s, representation was not perfect. 4967 03:57:15,448 --> 03:57:19,078 It's important to remember what the social context is 4968 03:57:19,102 --> 03:57:20,319 when something's made. 4969 03:57:20,343 --> 03:57:21,941 We should be talking about our history. 4970 03:57:21,965 --> 03:57:25,010 There's a reason why this isn't okay now, 4971 03:57:25,033 --> 03:57:27,112 and was happening then. 4972 03:57:27,137 --> 03:57:30,424 Context, context, context is what's important 4973 03:57:30,448 --> 03:57:31,700 when it comes to these films. 4974 03:57:31,724 --> 03:57:33,734 Doesn't it bother you that he's a fag? 4975 03:57:33,757 --> 03:57:34,941 Come on- 4976 03:57:34,965 --> 03:57:36,527 Tell me, Billy. 4977 03:57:36,550 --> 03:57:37,802 Are you a fag? 4978 03:57:37,826 --> 03:57:40,147 We need to talk about more than just the word. 4979 03:57:40,172 --> 03:57:42,665 We need to talk about what the word was doing there, 4980 03:57:42,689 --> 03:57:44,286 and who put it on that page. 4981 03:57:44,309 --> 03:57:46,630 Every filmmaker, their upbringing 4982 03:57:46,655 --> 03:57:49,251 influences their storytelling. 4983 03:57:49,274 --> 03:57:51,388 With that in mind, I began to make my own films, 4984 03:57:51,413 --> 03:57:53,493 and I began to write my own films, 4985 03:57:53,516 --> 03:57:55,388 and I began to create opportunity, 4986 03:57:55,413 --> 03:57:58,043 not only for myself, but for everyone else. 4987 03:57:58,067 --> 03:57:59,665 What do you make of it, Mark? 4988 03:57:59,689 --> 03:58:00,941 Beats me, Chief. 4989 03:58:00,965 --> 03:58:02,734 Seems like the work of pathological weirdos. 4990 03:58:02,757 --> 03:58:06,379 Representation being a double-edged sword. 4991 03:58:07,861 --> 03:58:09,043 I'm really getting scared. 4992 03:58:09,067 --> 03:58:10,561 I can't take back any movies I did, 4993 03:58:10,585 --> 03:58:12,010 and I don't want to. 4994 03:58:12,033 --> 03:58:15,424 I represent as far as I can what I look like 4995 03:58:15,448 --> 03:58:17,286 in the group of people I come from, 4996 03:58:17,309 --> 03:58:19,527 but I never pretended, and I don't say 4997 03:58:19,550 --> 03:58:21,527 I'm speaking for everybody. 4998 03:58:21,550 --> 03:58:23,147 I just have my little lane, 4999 03:58:23,172 --> 03:58:24,595 and I try to stick to my lane. 5000 03:58:24,620 --> 03:58:26,493 When you look at horror of the late 1970s, 5001 03:58:26,516 --> 03:58:28,388 early 1980s, we start to see 5002 03:58:28,413 --> 03:58:30,388 actual queer representation trickle in. 5003 03:58:30,413 --> 03:58:33,595 We see gay guys kicking ass in films like "Siege", 5004 03:58:33,620 --> 03:58:35,448 and "Savage Weekend". 5005 03:58:39,379 --> 03:58:42,319 That was getting way more normalized in the 70s, 5006 03:58:42,343 --> 03:58:44,217 and then when AIDS hit, they all got shoved 5007 03:58:44,240 --> 03:58:45,734 back in the closet pretty hard. 5008 03:58:45,757 --> 03:58:48,561 Suddenly, there is very much no longer an interest 5009 03:58:48,585 --> 03:58:51,527 in having queer characters normalized in those films. 5010 03:58:51,550 --> 03:58:52,941 It was a big elephant in the room, 5011 03:58:52,965 --> 03:58:54,286 and I think a lot of horror filmmakers 5012 03:58:54,309 --> 03:58:56,182 didn't want to bother navigating that. 5013 03:58:56,206 --> 03:58:59,043 It's part of the evolutionary process of horror. 5014 03:58:59,067 --> 03:59:02,665 For me, like it was such an educational process 5015 03:59:02,689 --> 03:59:05,976 to be able to go back and look at how 5016 03:59:06,000 --> 03:59:07,906 we've changed, and how our dialogue, 5017 03:59:07,931 --> 03:59:11,137 and how our discussion of these movies has changed. 5018 03:59:14,448 --> 03:59:15,550 Oh god, she's a boy. 5019 03:59:17,067 --> 03:59:19,319 It's hard to compare the 1980s 5020 03:59:19,343 --> 03:59:22,182 and representation in horror to what we have today. 5021 03:59:22,206 --> 03:59:24,976 Because what we have is a conversation happening 5022 03:59:25,000 --> 03:59:28,240 that's asking for what we want our future to look like. 5023 03:59:30,620 --> 03:59:33,286 I look at everything that happens in the past 5024 03:59:33,309 --> 03:59:36,343 as opportunities to do much, much better in the future. 5025 03:59:38,000 --> 03:59:40,769 It was once said to me that representation is a journey, 5026 03:59:40,792 --> 03:59:42,286 not a destination. 5027 03:59:42,309 --> 03:59:44,561 So to me, representation in the 80s 5028 03:59:44,585 --> 03:59:46,319 is a work in progress. 5029 03:59:46,343 --> 03:59:48,941 Representation now is a work in progress. 5030 03:59:48,965 --> 03:59:50,837 There's forward movement, and there's backward movement, 5031 03:59:50,861 --> 03:59:53,871 but you can't snapshot it and say this is what it was. 5032 03:59:53,896 --> 03:59:55,595 Because I think it's a more complicated 5033 03:59:55,620 --> 03:59:57,000 messier picture than that. 5034 04:00:10,240 --> 04:00:13,000 "Return of the Living Dead: Part II". 5035 04:00:14,172 --> 04:00:17,010 Just when you thought it was safe to be dead. 5036 04:00:17,033 --> 04:00:19,561 I love a good zany horror movie. 5037 04:00:19,585 --> 04:00:21,871 Zombie content right now is very serious. 5038 04:00:21,896 --> 04:00:24,458 It's all about society and humanity, 5039 04:00:24,481 --> 04:00:25,976 and what does humanity mean. 5040 04:00:26,000 --> 04:00:27,665 This movie, it's fun to watch zombies 5041 04:00:27,689 --> 04:00:30,448 just be ridiculous. 5042 04:00:34,206 --> 04:00:35,011 "Return of the Living Dead: Part 1" 5043 04:00:35,034 --> 04:00:36,871 is truly a dark comedy. 5044 04:00:36,896 --> 04:00:38,424 You're laughing at the situations 5045 04:00:38,448 --> 04:00:40,251 the kids get themselves into, 5046 04:00:40,274 --> 04:00:43,481 and "Part II" kind of went for the jokes. 5047 04:00:48,000 --> 04:00:50,182 It's less of a sequel, and more just kind of 5048 04:00:50,206 --> 04:00:52,319 a goofier remake of the first one. 5049 04:00:52,343 --> 04:00:54,734 "Return of the Living Dead II" shows that 5050 04:00:54,757 --> 04:00:56,769 even if you die in the first movie, 5051 04:00:56,792 --> 04:00:58,861 you can still come back for the sequel. 5052 04:01:02,000 --> 04:01:03,871 Not bad. 5053 04:01:03,896 --> 04:01:05,976 Nice bit of rump in her time, huh? 5054 04:01:06,000 --> 04:01:08,837 James Karen and Tom Matthews from the first movie 5055 04:01:08,861 --> 04:01:10,217 come back for this one. 5056 04:01:10,240 --> 04:01:12,665 They're kind of filling the same role, 5057 04:01:12,689 --> 04:01:15,217 and basically have the same arc as the first one, 5058 04:01:15,240 --> 04:01:19,043 so they sort of are playing the same characters. 5059 04:01:19,067 --> 04:01:21,217 We've been here before! 5060 04:01:21,240 --> 04:01:24,147 It's like a dream, this whole thing! 5061 04:01:24,172 --> 04:01:25,172 You, me! 5062 04:01:26,379 --> 04:01:27,700 "Return of the Living Dead" was a huge hit in Japan, 5063 04:01:27,724 --> 04:01:29,665 and they said if you can have Jimmy Karen 5064 04:01:29,689 --> 04:01:31,458 and Tom Matthews come back, we'd give you 5065 04:01:31,481 --> 04:01:32,700 a little bit more money. 5066 04:01:32,724 --> 04:01:34,561 So that's how Jimmy and I got involved 5067 04:01:34,585 --> 04:01:37,240 back in it again, was because of the Japanese. 5068 04:01:41,102 --> 04:01:43,251 Jimmy Karen, lot of people on the East Coast 5069 04:01:43,274 --> 04:01:44,871 call him the Pathmark man. 5070 04:01:44,896 --> 04:01:47,251 March rolls in with hundreds of price reductions 5071 04:01:47,274 --> 04:01:48,700 in this new Pathmark circular. 5072 04:01:48,724 --> 04:01:50,941 So he would give weekly specials every week 5073 04:01:50,965 --> 04:01:52,286 for 30 years. 5074 04:01:52,309 --> 04:01:54,319 24 hours a day, you'll save 5075 04:01:54,343 --> 04:01:56,458 with one stop shopping at Pathmark. 5076 04:01:56,481 --> 04:01:58,251 He was so infectious on the set. 5077 04:01:58,274 --> 04:01:59,931 Raised everybody's game up. 5078 04:02:04,792 --> 04:02:07,354 You laugh at the situations we get ourselves into. 5079 04:02:07,379 --> 04:02:10,700 You can't believe the shit that's going on. 5080 04:02:10,724 --> 04:02:12,286 Are you fucking kidding? 5081 04:02:12,309 --> 04:02:13,665 That's insane. 5082 04:02:13,689 --> 04:02:15,147 That's what you're responding to. 5083 04:02:15,172 --> 04:02:16,976 We're acting it for real, man. 5084 04:02:17,000 --> 04:02:18,147 It's the dead! 5085 04:02:18,172 --> 04:02:18,977 They've come back to life! 5086 04:02:19,001 --> 04:02:20,010 The dead? 5087 04:02:20,033 --> 04:02:20,872 Dead, dead what? 5088 04:02:20,897 --> 04:02:21,976 People! 5089 04:02:22,000 --> 04:02:23,251 We need your car! 5090 04:02:23,274 --> 04:02:24,561 Well it sounds to me like you need a hearse. 5091 04:02:24,585 --> 04:02:26,319 I had an issue with Jimmy Karen 5092 04:02:26,343 --> 04:02:27,837 eating brains, actually, 5093 04:02:27,861 --> 04:02:29,561 because the director wanted me to eat frickin' brains, 5094 04:02:29,585 --> 04:02:33,251 and I was like, that was just so over the line, I thought. 5095 04:02:33,274 --> 04:02:36,286 I got really upset about that on the set. 5096 04:02:36,309 --> 04:02:38,309 I had issues with him, Ken Wiederhorn. 5097 04:02:42,792 --> 04:02:45,251 It's like he lost a bet and had to do the movie. 5098 04:02:45,274 --> 04:02:47,286 Hemdale made him do it to do other movies 5099 04:02:47,309 --> 04:02:48,837 that he wanted to do. 5100 04:02:48,861 --> 04:02:53,861 It's a sad story of Ken Wiederhorn and his career. 5101 04:02:55,033 --> 04:02:57,078 He came right out of the gate with "Shock Waves", 5102 04:02:57,102 --> 04:02:58,595 he had "Dark Tower" that he wrote 5103 04:02:58,620 --> 04:03:00,388 that was completely butchered. 5104 04:03:00,413 --> 04:03:03,319 "Meatballs II" was never a "Meatballs" movie. 5105 04:03:03,343 --> 04:03:04,769 It was a movie that he made, 5106 04:03:04,792 --> 04:03:06,976 and the company was like, we need a sequel. 5107 04:03:07,000 --> 04:03:07,907 And they retitled it. 5108 04:03:07,932 --> 04:03:09,182 And this happens again. 5109 04:03:09,206 --> 04:03:11,147 I mean, Ken has the script, 5110 04:03:11,172 --> 04:03:13,217 and it's not really a zombie comedy, 5111 04:03:13,240 --> 04:03:15,896 but they want to make a "Return of the Living Dead II". 5112 04:03:21,000 --> 04:03:22,871 He just really wasn't interested 5113 04:03:22,896 --> 04:03:24,516 in doing the movie, but he did it 5114 04:03:26,861 --> 04:03:27,861 Oh, fuck this! 5115 04:03:32,343 --> 04:03:34,802 The strengths of "Part II" that people really enjoy, 5116 04:03:34,826 --> 04:03:38,010 I think the fact that the main character was a kid, 5117 04:03:38,033 --> 04:03:42,102 so they have an emotional connection to the movie. 5118 04:03:43,965 --> 04:03:44,965 Brains! 5119 04:03:45,757 --> 04:03:47,010 I've never heard anyone say 5120 04:03:47,033 --> 04:03:48,976 that they've hated "Part II", 5121 04:03:49,000 --> 04:03:51,906 except for me. 5122 04:03:51,931 --> 04:03:54,033 This is big fucking trouble! 5123 04:03:56,033 --> 04:03:57,757 I've changed my mind since then. 5124 04:04:12,274 --> 04:04:15,458 You've got to give the devil his due! 5125 04:04:15,481 --> 04:04:16,976 "Sorority Babes". 5126 04:04:17,000 --> 04:04:19,319 "Sorority Babes in the Slimeball Bowl-O-Rama" 5127 04:04:19,343 --> 04:04:22,665 is about these kids that think, okay, 5128 04:04:22,689 --> 04:04:26,527 we're gonna break into a mall, in the bowling alley, 5129 04:04:26,550 --> 04:04:28,734 and steal a trophy. 5130 04:04:28,757 --> 04:04:30,458 Come on, man! 5131 04:04:30,481 --> 04:04:31,287 I'm working on it. 5132 04:04:31,310 --> 04:04:33,067 Will you cool your jets? 5133 04:04:35,343 --> 04:04:36,837 Things turn out really bad, 5134 04:04:36,861 --> 04:04:39,147 because they awaken this imp. 5135 04:04:39,172 --> 04:04:40,802 Such a sour face! 5136 04:04:40,826 --> 04:04:42,837 Stop it, you little prick! 5137 04:04:42,861 --> 04:04:45,319 Very funny imp, but very menacing, 5138 04:04:45,343 --> 04:04:47,206 and does bad things. 5139 04:04:48,655 --> 04:04:49,631 Have a nice trip! 5140 04:04:49,656 --> 04:04:51,217 See you next fall! 5141 04:04:51,240 --> 04:04:53,665 I crack me up! 5142 04:04:53,689 --> 04:04:55,976 It's that story of the monkey's paw. 5143 04:04:56,000 --> 04:04:57,493 Be careful what you wish for. 5144 04:04:57,516 --> 04:04:58,389 Gold! 5145 04:04:58,414 --> 04:04:59,458 Lots of it! 5146 04:04:59,481 --> 04:05:01,388 Then gold it is! 5147 04:05:01,413 --> 04:05:02,595 This isn't gold! 5148 04:05:02,620 --> 04:05:03,871 These people make these wishes, 5149 04:05:03,896 --> 04:05:06,906 and they go so bad, it's not even funny. 5150 04:05:06,931 --> 04:05:09,595 Oh perfect form! 5151 04:05:09,620 --> 04:05:10,906 Lovely form! 5152 04:05:10,931 --> 04:05:13,941 Now I come along, and my name is Spider in it, 5153 04:05:13,965 --> 04:05:16,550 and I save the day. 5154 04:05:20,861 --> 04:05:23,182 When I got the script, it wasn't called 5155 04:05:23,206 --> 04:05:25,251 "Sorority Babes in the Slimeball Bowl O' Rama", 5156 04:05:25,274 --> 04:05:26,493 it was called "The Imp". 5157 04:05:26,516 --> 04:05:28,802 We had no idea what the imp would be like. 5158 04:05:28,826 --> 04:05:30,251 We didn't know what it would sound like, 5159 04:05:30,274 --> 04:05:31,561 we didn't know what it would look like, 5160 04:05:31,585 --> 04:05:33,078 because no one was there. 5161 04:05:33,102 --> 04:05:35,561 We just had to pretend we were looking at something. 5162 04:05:35,585 --> 04:05:37,769 We had no idea it would be a funny voice. 5163 04:05:37,792 --> 04:05:39,630 Uncle Imp is gonna get ya! 5164 04:05:39,655 --> 04:05:40,826 Fun, fun, fun! 5165 04:05:42,033 --> 04:05:44,078 Dukey Flyswatter was in a band 5166 04:05:44,102 --> 04:05:45,665 called The Haunted Garage. 5167 04:05:45,689 --> 04:05:49,043 He was a great guy and everything, to work with. 5168 04:05:49,067 --> 04:05:52,033 No, that's his real name. 5169 04:05:53,240 --> 04:05:54,493 I don't know what his real name is. 5170 04:05:54,516 --> 04:05:57,527 It's probably Howard, or something like that. 5171 04:05:57,550 --> 04:06:00,931 Would I lie to you? 5172 04:06:06,896 --> 04:06:09,458 "The Serpent and the Rainbow". 5173 04:06:09,481 --> 04:06:12,388 When I think of the movies that Wes Craven created 5174 04:06:12,413 --> 04:06:15,976 that really moved me and challenged me as a viewer, 5175 04:06:16,000 --> 04:06:18,802 "Serpent and the Rainbow" is definitely at the top 5176 04:06:18,826 --> 04:06:20,033 of that list. 5177 04:06:23,620 --> 04:06:25,112 I love "The Serpent and the Rainbow". 5178 04:06:25,137 --> 04:06:28,976 They have this dust that you can put into people's faces 5179 04:06:29,000 --> 04:06:30,493 and they become a zombie. 5180 04:06:30,516 --> 04:06:34,413 So you could bury them, they could come alive again. 5181 04:06:35,620 --> 04:06:38,976 It is Wes Craven's take on the zombie film. 5182 04:06:39,000 --> 04:06:41,388 Everybody was kind of trying to chase 5183 04:06:41,413 --> 04:06:44,343 what George Romero did with "Night of the Living Dead". 5184 04:06:45,481 --> 04:06:46,976 It wasn't until "Night of the Living Dead" 5185 04:06:47,000 --> 04:06:50,251 that people even started talking about ghouls as zombies. 5186 04:06:50,274 --> 04:06:51,630 Zombies were Caribbean. 5187 04:06:51,655 --> 04:06:53,769 Zombies were in "I Walked With a Zombie", 5188 04:06:53,792 --> 04:06:55,078 you know, "White Zombie". 5189 04:06:55,102 --> 04:06:56,700 That was kind of zombies. 5190 04:06:56,724 --> 04:07:00,388 But now, zombie became synonymous with living dead people. 5191 04:07:00,413 --> 04:07:03,319 The whole meaning of the word got screwed up. 5192 04:07:03,343 --> 04:07:05,630 Wes Craven is inviting us 5193 04:07:05,655 --> 04:07:08,458 to learn the history of these monsters 5194 04:07:08,481 --> 04:07:10,147 that we're fascinated with. 5195 04:07:10,172 --> 04:07:12,147 This comes from him being an academic. 5196 04:07:12,172 --> 04:07:15,837 He goes back to the root of the zombie, 5197 04:07:15,861 --> 04:07:17,976 and he goes back to Haitian folklore. 5198 04:07:18,000 --> 04:07:21,976 It's very much about the idea of wealthy white people 5199 04:07:22,000 --> 04:07:24,595 trying to steal cultural heritage 5200 04:07:24,620 --> 04:07:26,147 away from Haitians. 5201 04:07:26,172 --> 04:07:27,424 Now, if you don't like the word zombie, 5202 04:07:27,448 --> 04:07:28,871 you can choose another word, 5203 04:07:28,896 --> 04:07:30,527 but the fact is, somebody brought him 5204 04:07:30,550 --> 04:07:32,217 back from the grave, and I want to know 5205 04:07:32,240 --> 04:07:33,595 how they did it. 5206 04:07:33,620 --> 04:07:35,871 They send Bill Pullman's character there 5207 04:07:35,896 --> 04:07:38,112 to find out what is the secret 5208 04:07:38,137 --> 04:07:40,251 to immortality, essentially. 5209 04:07:40,274 --> 04:07:44,217 He thinks that he understands these rituals, 5210 04:07:44,240 --> 04:07:46,251 and that he is above them, he is a man of science, 5211 04:07:46,274 --> 04:07:47,906 but then he discovers that he doesn't really 5212 04:07:47,931 --> 04:07:49,112 know it at all. 5213 04:07:49,137 --> 04:07:52,802 Whatever happens, death is not the end. 5214 04:07:52,826 --> 04:07:55,354 Wes Craven is a great, great director, 5215 04:07:55,379 --> 04:07:57,343 and comes up with great ideas. 5216 04:08:01,724 --> 04:08:03,251 Really fantastic effects in that movie. 5217 04:08:03,274 --> 04:08:05,319 Some of the camera tricks that they're able to do, 5218 04:08:05,343 --> 04:08:07,354 especially in the sequences with the coffin, 5219 04:08:07,379 --> 04:08:09,000 when it fills with blood. 5220 04:08:11,206 --> 04:08:12,413 It's just phenomenal. 5221 04:08:14,000 --> 04:08:16,388 The dream sequence with the zombie bride, 5222 04:08:16,413 --> 04:08:18,757 a snake comes out of her skull. 5223 04:08:19,965 --> 04:08:22,147 I mean, that is incredible imagery. 5224 04:08:22,172 --> 04:08:24,240 You dreamt of me and of the grave. 5225 04:08:25,689 --> 04:08:27,147 I know because I was there. 5226 04:08:27,172 --> 04:08:31,724 Zakes Mokae in that movie is absolutely terrifying. 5227 04:08:34,172 --> 04:08:36,354 Bill Pullman really, he had to put up 5228 04:08:36,379 --> 04:08:38,458 with a lot for that movie. 5229 04:08:38,481 --> 04:08:41,837 I want to hear you scream. 5230 04:08:41,861 --> 04:08:44,837 Where he's basically in a chair, nude, 5231 04:08:44,861 --> 04:08:47,724 and a nine inch nail that changes a lot. 5232 04:08:54,309 --> 04:08:56,802 You see it once, you're never gonna forget that moment. 5233 04:08:56,826 --> 04:08:58,033 And get out! 5234 04:08:59,274 --> 04:09:01,769 "The Serpent and the Rainbow" feels the most 5235 04:09:01,792 --> 04:09:04,424 like who Wes Craven was as a person to me, 5236 04:09:04,448 --> 04:09:08,043 because he is interrogating the way 5237 04:09:08,067 --> 04:09:11,976 that our society functions, and our fear of death, 5238 04:09:12,000 --> 04:09:14,527 because I think ultimately, a fear of death 5239 04:09:14,550 --> 04:09:18,033 in this film is a fear of losing power and influence. 5240 04:09:19,102 --> 04:09:23,630 He has always reinvented horror 5241 04:09:23,655 --> 04:09:28,217 as a means to teach us either about ourselves, 5242 04:09:28,240 --> 04:09:32,286 broader society, or about the sins of America, 5243 04:09:32,309 --> 04:09:36,379 the way we extort other cultures for our own gain. 5244 04:09:38,481 --> 04:09:40,976 Don't let them bury me. 5245 04:09:41,000 --> 04:09:42,413 I'm not dead! 5246 04:09:49,033 --> 04:09:52,286 When I really think about all of my memories 5247 04:09:52,309 --> 04:09:54,147 on the set of "Sleepaway Camp", 5248 04:09:54,172 --> 04:09:56,182 we were just one big family. 5249 04:09:56,206 --> 04:09:58,665 One of the most magical times of my life. 5250 04:09:58,689 --> 04:10:03,655 I was a 13-year-old making this fun movie. 5251 04:10:06,000 --> 04:10:08,147 Spoiler alert, I mean the first penis I saw 5252 04:10:08,172 --> 04:10:09,700 was my own penis, you know? 5253 04:10:09,724 --> 04:10:13,343 It was like, this was a movie like none other. 5254 04:10:18,033 --> 04:10:21,112 Once you find out what the ending is, 5255 04:10:21,137 --> 04:10:24,630 you start to understand the deeper meaning. 5256 04:10:24,655 --> 04:10:26,078 And there's a lot going on. 5257 04:10:26,102 --> 04:10:30,112 Your gender identification, your sexual orientation. 5258 04:10:30,137 --> 04:10:31,871 It was never intended to have 5259 04:10:31,896 --> 04:10:34,837 any kind of negative connotation 5260 04:10:34,861 --> 04:10:37,976 on any aspect of life. 5261 04:10:38,000 --> 04:10:39,343 Goodnight, campers. 5262 04:10:40,585 --> 04:10:42,319 "Sleepaway Camp 2". 5263 04:10:42,343 --> 04:10:45,388 Michael Simpson called about portraying Angela 5264 04:10:45,413 --> 04:10:47,182 possibly in Parts 2 and 3. 5265 04:10:47,206 --> 04:10:48,527 It was the late 80s. 5266 04:10:48,550 --> 04:10:49,976 We were seeing more comedy. 5267 04:10:50,000 --> 04:10:53,896 And I just didn't take very well to that character. 5268 04:10:55,757 --> 04:10:56,837 Wake up, everybody! 5269 04:10:56,861 --> 04:10:58,182 Breakfast in half an hour! 5270 04:10:58,206 --> 04:10:59,354 I put it on hold. 5271 04:10:59,379 --> 04:11:01,448 I'm young, let me go to school. 5272 04:11:03,172 --> 04:11:05,976 Robert Hiltzik made this movie, and it was great. 5273 04:11:06,000 --> 04:11:08,319 So when Robert wrote the sequel, 5274 04:11:08,343 --> 04:11:12,112 he continued that dark movie that was made, 5275 04:11:12,137 --> 04:11:14,217 and the producers were like, nah. 5276 04:11:14,240 --> 04:11:16,734 We want to really play into Angela. 5277 04:11:16,757 --> 04:11:19,112 Fritz Gordon is actually Michael Hitchcock, 5278 04:11:19,137 --> 04:11:20,493 who wrote Glee. 5279 04:11:20,516 --> 04:11:22,769 He was brought in to write the horror comedy. 5280 04:11:22,792 --> 04:11:24,458 There's lots of good kids. 5281 04:11:24,481 --> 04:11:26,493 We just have to weed out the bad. 5282 04:11:26,516 --> 04:11:28,078 But it's mainly one liners, 5283 04:11:28,102 --> 04:11:29,941 and just kind of Pamela Springsteen 5284 04:11:29,965 --> 04:11:31,941 taking this Angela character, 5285 04:11:31,965 --> 04:11:35,424 and just amplifying it so much. 5286 04:11:35,448 --> 04:11:37,343 Say no to drugs. 5287 04:11:41,172 --> 04:11:43,837 She brought so much energy. 5288 04:11:43,861 --> 04:11:46,251 That was an Angela that was fun. 5289 04:11:46,274 --> 04:11:47,448 You talk too much. 5290 04:11:50,620 --> 04:11:54,424 Also, them playing with the transgender character, 5291 04:11:54,448 --> 04:11:59,078 fully a woman, has completely undergone everything. 5292 04:11:59,102 --> 04:12:00,769 A surgery and all. 5293 04:12:00,792 --> 04:12:03,665 You're Angela Baker, the angel of death! 5294 04:12:03,689 --> 04:12:05,319 They should have called you Peter! 5295 04:12:05,343 --> 04:12:07,630 My name is Angela Johnson. 5296 04:12:07,655 --> 04:12:09,354 A Bruce Springsteen sister. 5297 04:12:09,379 --> 04:12:10,665 She kept it secret. 5298 04:12:10,689 --> 04:12:11,665 She wanted to be an actress, 5299 04:12:11,690 --> 04:12:12,906 but I guess it wasn't for her. 5300 04:12:12,931 --> 04:12:14,826 She ended up doing photography instead. 5301 04:12:16,067 --> 04:12:19,043 Some of Bruce Springsteen's album covers 5302 04:12:19,067 --> 04:12:22,630 is Pamela Springsteen's photographs. 5303 04:12:22,655 --> 04:12:24,561 I was once a camper myself. 5304 04:12:24,585 --> 04:12:26,458 She's the boss' sister. 5305 04:12:26,481 --> 04:12:28,206 She was born cool. 5306 04:12:30,102 --> 04:12:32,458 Angela is killing because she's bullied. 5307 04:12:32,481 --> 04:12:34,941 She's weeding out all the bad kids, 5308 04:12:34,965 --> 04:12:36,319 and she's on top of it, 5309 04:12:36,343 --> 04:12:38,700 and she doesn't care what anyone thinks. 5310 04:12:38,724 --> 04:12:40,000 Please, don't! 5311 04:12:42,620 --> 04:12:43,802 Sorry! 5312 04:12:43,826 --> 04:12:45,976 Once I start a task, I always finish. 5313 04:12:46,000 --> 04:12:48,147 It has some kind of cruel deaths, 5314 04:12:48,172 --> 04:12:50,826 like shoving somebody down a Porta Potty. 5315 04:12:51,655 --> 04:12:52,655 What's down there? 5316 04:12:54,274 --> 04:12:55,906 The leeches attached to her face, 5317 04:12:55,931 --> 04:12:58,217 she's obviously covered in poop and pee, 5318 04:12:58,240 --> 04:12:59,837 and it's just like, ugh. 5319 04:12:59,861 --> 04:13:02,286 What a horrible way to die. 5320 04:13:02,309 --> 04:13:03,941 I love that outhouse scene. 5321 04:13:03,965 --> 04:13:05,724 That was disgusting! 5322 04:13:07,620 --> 04:13:09,665 It's a perfect, perfect, perfect blend 5323 04:13:09,689 --> 04:13:11,665 of horror and comedy. 5324 04:13:11,689 --> 04:13:12,976 A lot of people say "Part 2" 's my favorite, 5325 04:13:13,000 --> 04:13:14,620 and I think that's fantastic. 5326 04:13:17,240 --> 04:13:20,251 I do wish I had played those roles. 5327 04:13:20,274 --> 04:13:21,527 I do. 5328 04:13:21,550 --> 04:13:23,319 I always say I have no regrets in life. 5329 04:13:23,343 --> 04:13:24,148 None. 5330 04:13:24,173 --> 04:13:26,182 But I do regret that. 5331 04:13:26,206 --> 04:13:28,137 Even if you're sad, you gotta eat. 5332 04:13:29,274 --> 04:13:30,906 Isn't that right, Leah? 5333 04:13:30,931 --> 04:13:32,802 Just would have been super cool 5334 04:13:32,826 --> 04:13:35,802 to feel like I had done the entire franchise. 5335 04:13:35,826 --> 04:13:37,906 I think the series is empowering. 5336 04:13:37,931 --> 04:13:39,734 I've watched it over 40 years 5337 04:13:39,757 --> 04:13:41,906 grow into this, you know, 5338 04:13:41,931 --> 04:13:44,043 it has a life of its own. 5339 04:13:44,067 --> 04:13:46,665 "Sleepaway Camp" is so interesting to me. 5340 04:13:46,689 --> 04:13:48,906 I still have so many questions. 5341 04:13:48,931 --> 04:13:50,757 I'm completely cured. 5342 04:13:52,550 --> 04:13:55,240 If I wasn't, they wouldn't have let me out. 5343 04:14:04,861 --> 04:14:07,112 "Don't Panic" really feels like it was 5344 04:14:07,137 --> 04:14:09,112 made by a fan for fans. 5345 04:14:09,137 --> 04:14:09,976 One! 5346 04:14:10,000 --> 04:14:11,000 Two! 5347 04:14:12,172 --> 04:14:13,724 Three! 5348 04:14:18,274 --> 04:14:21,734 This 17-year-old boy has a party 5349 04:14:21,757 --> 04:14:24,630 where his friends surprise him with the Ouija board. 5350 04:14:24,655 --> 04:14:27,665 And if you thought this movie was about the Ouija board, 5351 04:14:27,689 --> 04:14:29,137 oh you thought wrong. 5352 04:14:34,792 --> 04:14:37,595 In Spanish, "Don't Panic" was called 5353 04:14:37,620 --> 04:14:41,665 "Dimensiones Ocultas", which means occult dimensions. 5354 04:14:41,689 --> 04:14:45,043 At that time, the only way was to shoot in English, 5355 04:14:45,067 --> 04:14:47,240 sell it in the international markets. 5356 04:14:48,896 --> 04:14:53,251 We tried to hire actors that were English fluent, 5357 04:14:53,274 --> 04:14:55,240 and that had an international look. 5358 04:15:00,274 --> 04:15:02,078 Let's look at the character Michael. 5359 04:15:02,102 --> 04:15:03,769 That's what I call a pullet. 5360 04:15:03,792 --> 04:15:06,251 You have a perm on your mullet. 5361 04:15:06,274 --> 04:15:10,837 And you're wearing dinosaur pajamas at 17 years old. 5362 04:15:10,861 --> 04:15:11,665 They're after me. 5363 04:15:11,689 --> 04:15:12,563 They're gonna get me. 5364 04:15:12,586 --> 04:15:13,941 Don't worry, baby. 5365 04:15:13,965 --> 04:15:15,620 I won't let anybody hurt you. 5366 04:15:16,757 --> 04:15:19,458 I always get questions about those pajamas. 5367 04:15:19,481 --> 04:15:21,941 They seem to be the most memorable aspect 5368 04:15:21,965 --> 04:15:24,251 of "Don't Panic". 5369 04:15:24,274 --> 04:15:25,700 Michael. 5370 04:15:25,724 --> 04:15:28,354 This time you have to stop him. 5371 04:15:28,379 --> 04:15:29,976 Don't fail. 5372 04:15:30,000 --> 04:15:31,424 What the fuck? 5373 04:15:31,448 --> 04:15:35,630 It almost felt like a medically induced dream fever. 5374 04:15:35,655 --> 04:15:37,481 It was just so out there. 5375 04:15:38,481 --> 04:15:39,481 Hurry! 5376 04:15:42,620 --> 04:15:45,424 Do you believe in Satan? 5377 04:15:45,448 --> 04:15:47,802 Roberto Palazuelos is playing 5378 04:15:47,826 --> 04:15:50,837 the character of a tough bully guy. 5379 04:15:50,861 --> 04:15:54,043 He goes inside the car, sticks his head out 5380 04:15:54,067 --> 04:15:55,585 from the window. 5381 04:15:58,413 --> 04:16:01,078 What Screaming Mad George did for us, 5382 04:16:01,102 --> 04:16:03,286 he made a piece of prosthetic, 5383 04:16:03,309 --> 04:16:06,802 like a retractable knife inside the mouth. 5384 04:16:06,826 --> 04:16:08,871 And then when he opened his mouth, 5385 04:16:08,896 --> 04:16:10,630 you could see the blade pop, 5386 04:16:10,655 --> 04:16:12,424 and the blood come out of the mouth. 5387 04:16:12,448 --> 04:16:14,413 I think it was a very good kill. 5388 04:16:18,413 --> 04:16:20,665 It really became a success 5389 04:16:20,689 --> 04:16:22,700 when video came out. 5390 04:16:22,724 --> 04:16:25,078 And then we started getting requests 5391 04:16:25,102 --> 04:16:26,493 from all the world. 5392 04:16:26,516 --> 04:16:31,137 We sold it in United Kingdom, Japan, China, Germany. 5393 04:16:32,000 --> 04:16:32,907 I've gotta save Christie! 5394 04:16:32,932 --> 04:16:34,102 Please listen to me! 5395 04:16:36,965 --> 04:16:40,941 It scared the shit out of the audience. 5396 04:16:40,965 --> 04:16:44,043 You want to play games? 5397 04:16:44,067 --> 04:16:45,067 Good. 5398 04:16:46,000 --> 04:16:47,033 I like games. 5399 04:16:54,033 --> 04:16:56,309 Say your prayers. 5400 04:16:58,620 --> 04:17:00,217 "Lady in White". 5401 04:17:00,240 --> 04:17:03,561 "Lady in White" is a particularly strong example 5402 04:17:03,585 --> 04:17:04,976 of gateway horror. 5403 04:17:05,000 --> 04:17:08,043 That was one of the scariest movies I saw as a kid, 5404 04:17:08,067 --> 04:17:11,424 because it's dealing with very, very dark material, 5405 04:17:11,448 --> 04:17:13,906 and it's stuff that could happen in real life. 5406 04:17:13,931 --> 04:17:16,871 The titular lady in white is a ghost, 5407 04:17:16,896 --> 04:17:19,286 but what this movie is really about 5408 04:17:19,309 --> 04:17:21,655 is a child killer. 5409 04:17:23,585 --> 04:17:25,976 It was seven years between "Fear No Evil" 5410 04:17:26,000 --> 04:17:27,837 and "Lady in White" before I got back 5411 04:17:27,861 --> 04:17:29,078 behind the camera again. 5412 04:17:29,102 --> 04:17:30,837 It was a remarkable experience, 5413 04:17:30,861 --> 04:17:34,043 such a far cry from "Fear No Evil". 5414 04:17:34,067 --> 04:17:35,976 What I wanted to do this time 5415 04:17:36,000 --> 04:17:37,700 was really try to make something 5416 04:17:37,724 --> 04:17:40,388 that was personal on an autobiographical level. 5417 04:17:40,413 --> 04:17:43,595 A beautiful story about what it was like 5418 04:17:43,620 --> 04:17:44,871 growing up in that era, 5419 04:17:44,896 --> 04:17:48,769 and combine it with this ghost story, 5420 04:17:48,792 --> 04:17:50,527 that drives it thematically, 5421 04:17:50,550 --> 04:17:53,379 and perhaps more so commercially. 5422 04:17:59,309 --> 04:18:01,906 It's like the most cinematic version of Halloween 5423 04:18:01,931 --> 04:18:03,043 that you can have. 5424 04:18:03,067 --> 04:18:04,527 It smells like Halloween, 5425 04:18:04,550 --> 04:18:07,871 like you watch that movie, and it tastes like candy corn. 5426 04:18:07,896 --> 04:18:09,182 The seasonal feel. 5427 04:18:09,206 --> 04:18:10,734 We began during the fall, 5428 04:18:10,757 --> 04:18:13,354 and the moved into the winter months. 5429 04:18:13,379 --> 04:18:16,147 I wanted a contrast between the darkness 5430 04:18:16,172 --> 04:18:18,561 that was going to happen in the film, 5431 04:18:18,585 --> 04:18:21,689 and these beautiful bucolic moments. 5432 04:18:23,620 --> 04:18:24,871 Hey! 5433 04:18:24,896 --> 04:18:27,010 The first image that came to mind 5434 04:18:27,033 --> 04:18:29,871 for "Lady in White" was this image of Frankie 5435 04:18:29,896 --> 04:18:32,102 being locked in the cloakroom. 5436 04:18:34,379 --> 04:18:36,769 Comforted by their ancient voices, 5437 04:18:36,792 --> 04:18:38,734 and I began to dream. 5438 04:18:38,757 --> 04:18:41,458 Lukas Haas plays Frankie in this. 5439 04:18:41,481 --> 04:18:42,595 I'd seen him in "Witness", 5440 04:18:42,620 --> 04:18:43,976 I'd seen him in "Testament", 5441 04:18:44,000 --> 04:18:46,067 and I knew that this kid was extraordinary. 5442 04:18:47,274 --> 04:18:51,493 He had an innate ability to express his feelings. 5443 04:18:51,516 --> 04:18:53,630 That's what acting's all about. 5444 04:18:53,655 --> 04:18:57,424 Mom used to say sometimes when someone dies violent, 5445 04:18:57,448 --> 04:18:58,802 they can't rest in peace. 5446 04:18:58,826 --> 04:19:01,251 The story is as much about a time and place 5447 04:19:01,274 --> 04:19:03,251 as anything else. 5448 04:19:03,274 --> 04:19:04,976 A key character is a black man 5449 04:19:05,000 --> 04:19:07,700 who gets caught in the madness of what's happening, 5450 04:19:07,724 --> 04:19:09,976 what's going on in that town. 5451 04:19:10,000 --> 04:19:12,424 Dealing with issues of race, 5452 04:19:12,448 --> 04:19:14,078 particular as it relates to the lady, 5453 04:19:14,102 --> 04:19:16,078 what was going on in that era, 5454 04:19:16,102 --> 04:19:18,769 and being truthful as to how people spoke, 5455 04:19:18,792 --> 04:19:21,010 how they reacted, how they dealt 5456 04:19:21,033 --> 04:19:22,976 with each other between races. 5457 04:19:23,000 --> 04:19:25,010 I wanted nothing but the truth. 5458 04:19:25,033 --> 04:19:27,286 Harold Williams is a perfect scapegoat. 5459 04:19:27,309 --> 04:19:28,309 He's black. 5460 04:19:29,585 --> 04:19:32,424 When it comes to pure cinematic drive and force, 5461 04:19:32,448 --> 04:19:34,826 I think the climax works beautifully. 5462 04:19:36,413 --> 04:19:38,043 I think that theme of loss 5463 04:19:38,067 --> 04:19:39,286 and coming to terms with loss 5464 04:19:39,309 --> 04:19:42,251 and dealing with loss is universal. 5465 04:19:42,274 --> 04:19:45,182 My mommy's lost and I can't find her. 5466 04:19:45,206 --> 04:19:47,388 The "Lady in White", it fucked me up. 5467 04:19:47,413 --> 04:19:50,182 Seeing it as a kid, in a way that it just becomes 5468 04:19:50,206 --> 04:19:52,906 like embedded in you, and become a core memory. 5469 04:19:52,931 --> 04:19:55,251 10-year-old Melissa N. Montgomery 5470 04:19:55,274 --> 04:19:58,182 was the first victim believed to have been murdered. 5471 04:19:58,206 --> 04:20:00,319 I'm glad that people are still discovering 5472 04:20:00,343 --> 04:20:01,343 "Lady in White". 5473 04:20:06,240 --> 04:20:08,251 It continues to remain somewhat hidden. 5474 04:20:08,274 --> 04:20:09,595 It's fun for me. 5475 04:20:09,620 --> 04:20:11,354 I already told him. 5476 04:20:11,379 --> 04:20:14,000 Her mother is the lady in white. 5477 04:20:23,240 --> 04:20:24,769 I'm awake! 5478 04:20:24,792 --> 04:20:26,286 "Dream Demon". 5479 04:20:26,309 --> 04:20:27,458 "Dream Demon". 5480 04:20:27,481 --> 04:20:29,561 The movie was about the fine line 5481 04:20:29,585 --> 04:20:31,906 between dreams and reality. 5482 04:20:31,931 --> 04:20:34,837 I think I'm awake, and then I keep waking up. 5483 04:20:34,861 --> 04:20:36,043 This is crazy. 5484 04:20:36,067 --> 04:20:37,319 You better call that doctor friend of yours. 5485 04:20:37,343 --> 04:20:39,493 My character was like a punk rock chick 5486 04:20:39,516 --> 04:20:42,182 connected to this English girl. 5487 04:20:42,206 --> 04:20:43,493 Wake up, Diana! 5488 04:20:43,516 --> 04:20:44,388 Come on! 5489 04:20:44,413 --> 04:20:45,183 Wake up! 5490 04:20:45,207 --> 04:20:46,769 Diana, please! 5491 04:20:46,792 --> 04:20:49,734 Ultimately we realized that through our dreams 5492 04:20:49,757 --> 04:20:52,802 and in our ability to crawl into our dreams, 5493 04:20:52,826 --> 04:20:55,585 I think that we ended up bonding. 5494 04:20:56,481 --> 04:20:57,287 Cheers. 5495 04:20:57,310 --> 04:20:58,424 Now wake up! 5496 04:20:58,448 --> 04:21:00,286 Come on, wake up! 5497 04:21:00,309 --> 04:21:01,148 Wake up! 5498 04:21:01,173 --> 04:21:02,388 Stop! 5499 04:21:02,413 --> 04:21:03,871 I loved working with Gemma Redgrave. 5500 04:21:03,896 --> 04:21:05,413 She was like my best friend. 5501 04:21:06,516 --> 04:21:07,906 No that's, no that's, that's very good. 5502 04:21:07,931 --> 04:21:09,757 That's really very good. 5503 04:21:10,931 --> 04:21:13,769 Timothy Spall and Jimmy Nail. 5504 04:21:13,792 --> 04:21:15,700 I remember having good laughs with them. 5505 04:21:15,724 --> 04:21:17,147 Hey come on, leave her alone. 5506 04:21:17,172 --> 04:21:18,871 What do you think she is, dog meat? 5507 04:21:18,896 --> 04:21:19,770 Piss off, darling. 5508 04:21:19,793 --> 04:21:20,941 We're the press! 5509 04:21:20,965 --> 04:21:22,724 Oh yeah, well print this, dickhead! 5510 04:21:23,550 --> 04:21:24,550 It was an adventure, 5511 04:21:25,689 --> 04:21:29,172 some groundbreaking special effects. 5512 04:21:31,413 --> 04:21:33,837 All of these art director types 5513 04:21:33,861 --> 04:21:36,424 that got to really stretch out their creativity 5514 04:21:36,448 --> 04:21:39,965 and just be as gross as possible. 5515 04:21:42,516 --> 04:21:44,286 So I'd be like, huh. 5516 04:21:44,309 --> 04:21:47,206 She's crawling through slime today. 5517 04:21:51,000 --> 04:21:52,871 The script was peculiar. 5518 04:21:52,896 --> 04:21:54,458 They had so many rewrites, 5519 04:21:54,481 --> 04:21:56,757 and the director was kind of a nut. 5520 04:21:58,172 --> 04:22:00,424 They wanted me to stand in front 5521 04:22:00,448 --> 04:22:02,769 of these six foot flames. 5522 04:22:02,792 --> 04:22:05,700 It's hot, right? 5523 04:22:05,724 --> 04:22:07,734 The director was like okay, you're gonna come in 5524 04:22:07,757 --> 04:22:09,734 in front of that flame, and I'm like, 5525 04:22:09,757 --> 04:22:12,561 how about this, fuck no I'm not gonna stand 5526 04:22:12,585 --> 04:22:14,871 in front of, and then he got really mad at me, 5527 04:22:14,896 --> 04:22:16,665 and I was like, I'm not standing in front of that. 5528 04:22:16,689 --> 04:22:17,769 That is dangerous. 5529 04:22:17,792 --> 04:22:18,871 Forget you. 5530 04:22:18,896 --> 04:22:20,319 You stand in front of it. 5531 04:22:20,343 --> 04:22:21,561 He's like, all right fine! 5532 04:22:21,585 --> 04:22:23,251 He stands in front of it, 5533 04:22:23,274 --> 04:22:25,757 and he singes the back of his hair. 5534 04:22:28,965 --> 04:22:31,802 I have not worked with Harley Cokeliss since. 5535 04:22:31,826 --> 04:22:35,757 I don't think I was his favorite actress. 5536 04:22:37,379 --> 04:22:38,493 Diana! 5537 04:22:38,516 --> 04:22:39,941 The most challenging aspect 5538 04:22:39,965 --> 04:22:41,251 of working on horror films, 5539 04:22:41,274 --> 04:22:43,561 it's me screaming and crying. 5540 04:22:43,585 --> 04:22:48,516 It's me bringing to life my own personal freaking fear, 5541 04:22:49,965 --> 04:22:51,595 so I guess bringing your own reality to the screen 5542 04:22:51,620 --> 04:22:53,493 is the trickiest bit. 5543 04:22:53,516 --> 04:22:54,906 But what a blast. 5544 04:22:54,931 --> 04:22:56,112 I'll do it any day of the week. 5545 04:22:56,137 --> 04:22:57,424 Pay me. 5546 04:22:57,448 --> 04:22:58,550 Where's my mark? 5547 04:23:03,585 --> 04:23:04,837 Anybody who thinks it's a good idea 5548 04:23:04,861 --> 04:23:06,871 to get shaved by a monkey 5549 04:23:06,896 --> 04:23:10,769 needs to reassess their life plan. 5550 04:23:10,792 --> 04:23:11,976 You're not gonna hurt me. 5551 04:23:12,000 --> 04:23:12,977 I'm part of you. 5552 04:23:13,001 --> 04:23:14,802 "Monkey Shines". 5553 04:23:14,826 --> 04:23:16,941 A leap into terror. 5554 04:23:16,965 --> 04:23:20,112 "Monkey Shines" is about a mind meld 5555 04:23:20,137 --> 04:23:24,043 between a man, who suffered a horrible injury, 5556 04:23:24,067 --> 04:23:27,286 and this monkey. 5557 04:23:27,309 --> 04:23:29,010 You're giving me a monkey? 5558 04:23:29,033 --> 04:23:30,700 How am I supposed to take care of it, Jeff? 5559 04:23:30,724 --> 04:23:32,595 The idea is that it's gonna take care of you. 5560 04:23:32,620 --> 04:23:34,976 He ends up becoming telepathic 5561 04:23:35,000 --> 04:23:37,424 with this monkey, and the monkey ends up 5562 04:23:37,448 --> 04:23:39,286 becoming kind of jealous of the people 5563 04:23:39,309 --> 04:23:41,700 that are close to our main dude. 5564 04:23:41,724 --> 04:23:42,965 Allan- 5565 04:23:46,481 --> 04:23:48,078 And the monkey starts to enact 5566 04:23:48,102 --> 04:23:51,976 a lot of the rage that the quadriplegic is experiencing, 5567 04:23:52,000 --> 04:23:54,655 and people start to be killed. 5568 04:23:59,448 --> 04:24:01,837 It sounds all very far-fetched, 5569 04:24:01,861 --> 04:24:03,734 but the way that Romero handles it 5570 04:24:03,757 --> 04:24:06,388 is completely expert, and a perfect example 5571 04:24:06,413 --> 04:24:08,700 of what a great filmmaker Romero was, 5572 04:24:08,724 --> 04:24:11,274 even out of the zone of zombies. 5573 04:24:12,620 --> 04:24:14,043 Yeah, yeah. 5574 04:24:14,067 --> 04:24:15,493 I made up a formulation based on human memory cells. 5575 04:24:15,516 --> 04:24:16,976 I've been injecting one of my monkeys. 5576 04:24:17,000 --> 04:24:18,976 George sets the tone. 5577 04:24:19,000 --> 04:24:20,286 Come on, give it right here. 5578 04:24:20,309 --> 04:24:21,413 Now, now. 5579 04:24:22,343 --> 04:24:23,252 - Thank you. - Good girl. 5580 04:24:23,275 --> 04:24:25,000 It was a fun set to be on. 5581 04:24:26,448 --> 04:24:27,665 Jason Beghe. 5582 04:24:27,689 --> 04:24:29,147 I liked Jason a lot. 5583 04:24:29,172 --> 04:24:30,941 He was a very intense guy. 5584 04:24:30,965 --> 04:24:32,078 Don't. 5585 04:24:32,102 --> 04:24:32,941 Do not. 5586 04:24:32,966 --> 04:24:34,206 Don't do it! 5587 04:24:35,379 --> 04:24:36,630 Goddam you, you- 5588 04:24:36,655 --> 04:24:38,424 I think it was a lot more pressure for him. 5589 04:24:38,448 --> 04:24:41,379 He was carrying that film, really. 5590 04:24:45,000 --> 04:24:46,112 I love monkeys! 5591 04:24:46,137 --> 04:24:47,665 Monkeys are awesome! 5592 04:24:47,689 --> 04:24:49,976 Well, not so much. 5593 04:24:50,000 --> 04:24:52,655 Kind of scary, really. 5594 04:24:53,861 --> 04:24:56,182 I really wanted to love the monkeys, 5595 04:24:56,206 --> 04:24:57,941 but truthfully, I had to really fake 5596 04:24:57,965 --> 04:24:59,354 not being scared. 5597 04:24:59,379 --> 04:25:01,010 Hey, company's here. 5598 04:25:01,033 --> 04:25:01,941 Come on. 5599 04:25:01,966 --> 04:25:03,458 They're very strong. 5600 04:25:03,481 --> 04:25:06,595 In the pivotal scene, monkey's trying to drug me 5601 04:25:06,620 --> 04:25:09,010 with this hypodermic needle. 5602 04:25:09,033 --> 04:25:11,792 I had to wrestle with the monkey. 5603 04:25:12,724 --> 04:25:14,182 And a lot of that was a puppet. 5604 04:25:14,206 --> 04:25:16,527 But there was one short time 5605 04:25:16,550 --> 04:25:18,458 where I was actually holding on 5606 04:25:18,481 --> 04:25:19,388 to a real monkey. 5607 04:25:19,413 --> 04:25:20,413 Ella, no! 5608 04:25:24,620 --> 04:25:26,493 I can't say I had a lot of affection for them. 5609 04:25:26,516 --> 04:25:27,896 But I faked it really well. 5610 04:25:29,172 --> 04:25:30,941 And we had that love scene 5611 04:25:30,965 --> 04:25:33,837 that was one of the more challenging scenes 5612 04:25:33,861 --> 04:25:35,137 I've ever had to do. 5613 04:25:36,274 --> 04:25:38,906 As a young boy, watching that sequence 5614 04:25:38,931 --> 04:25:41,802 and wondering about how this guy 5615 04:25:41,826 --> 04:25:44,769 was going to have an encounter with this woman 5616 04:25:44,792 --> 04:25:45,976 that we knew he liked, 5617 04:25:46,000 --> 04:25:48,147 and the way that happened, 5618 04:25:48,172 --> 04:25:49,976 the harness thing for his bed, 5619 04:25:50,000 --> 04:25:54,976 and this monkey's watching, like getting angry. 5620 04:25:55,000 --> 04:25:57,067 That movie's messed up, man. 5621 04:25:58,379 --> 04:25:59,493 We were in it together, 5622 04:25:59,516 --> 04:26:00,941 and we got through it. 5623 04:26:00,965 --> 04:26:02,458 I do believe we drank a little bit 5624 04:26:02,481 --> 04:26:05,458 of champagne during it to relax, 5625 04:26:05,481 --> 04:26:10,319 because it's so hard, these intimate scenes, you know? 5626 04:26:10,343 --> 04:26:11,792 With a crew. 5627 04:26:13,724 --> 04:26:16,458 It's a scene I'm actually pretty proud of. 5628 04:26:16,481 --> 04:26:18,182 "Monkey Shines" is George Romero's 5629 04:26:18,206 --> 04:26:19,665 first studio movie. 5630 04:26:19,689 --> 04:26:22,286 The movie was taken away from him and recut, 5631 04:26:22,309 --> 04:26:24,826 after he added things that they asked for. 5632 04:26:26,481 --> 04:26:28,388 The original ending was much darker, 5633 04:26:28,413 --> 04:26:30,112 and they hated that. 5634 04:26:30,137 --> 04:26:33,286 I wish we could see George's original vision. 5635 04:26:33,309 --> 04:26:35,700 It's what happens when you work for a studio. 5636 04:26:35,724 --> 04:26:37,010 The movie's not yours. 5637 04:26:37,033 --> 04:26:40,078 Even if it wasn't appreciated at the time, 5638 04:26:40,102 --> 04:26:42,630 I think anybody who appreciates George 5639 04:26:42,655 --> 04:26:45,286 is gonna take another look at any of his work. 5640 04:26:45,309 --> 04:26:47,000 It's an interesting story. 5641 04:26:48,379 --> 04:26:50,837 It has survived better than I would have thought 5642 04:26:50,861 --> 04:26:53,000 at the time, that's for sure. 5643 04:27:01,689 --> 04:27:02,976 "Black Roses". 5644 04:27:03,000 --> 04:27:06,976 The hottest band this side of hell. 5645 04:27:07,000 --> 04:27:08,976 A big heavy metal band is coming 5646 04:27:09,000 --> 04:27:10,802 to do a series of concerts, 5647 04:27:10,826 --> 04:27:13,976 and the parents in the town are very much against it, 5648 04:27:14,000 --> 04:27:16,620 because you know, rock and roll leads to the devil. 5649 04:27:17,757 --> 04:27:20,217 The fact that we had Julie Adams in the movie 5650 04:27:20,240 --> 04:27:22,319 was a thrill for all of us monster kids, 5651 04:27:22,343 --> 04:27:25,319 because she was in "The Creature from the Black Lagoon". 5652 04:27:25,343 --> 04:27:28,286 Their satanic music and subversive lyrics 5653 04:27:28,309 --> 04:27:31,802 threaten to undermine the very fabric of our society. 5654 04:27:31,826 --> 04:27:33,251 John Fasano. 5655 04:27:33,274 --> 04:27:35,448 We did four movies in four years. 5656 04:27:36,861 --> 04:27:40,319 John and I had known each other since elementary school. 5657 04:27:40,343 --> 04:27:42,010 And so now, here comes the biggest thing 5658 04:27:42,033 --> 04:27:45,286 to hit Mill Basin ever, and they try to stop it? 5659 04:27:45,309 --> 04:27:46,906 You call that good? 5660 04:27:46,931 --> 04:27:51,010 When the investors saw the first cut of the film, 5661 04:27:51,033 --> 04:27:53,527 they were like, it's a little short. 5662 04:27:53,550 --> 04:27:56,792 It needs more monsters, and more boobs. 5663 04:27:58,516 --> 04:28:01,630 So we shot these additional sequences. 5664 04:28:01,655 --> 04:28:05,206 I did do some special effects for the reshoot. 5665 04:28:06,481 --> 04:28:09,700 John wanted her hand to be starting to look 5666 04:28:09,724 --> 04:28:14,724 like it was changing, so I sculpted an appliance. 5667 04:28:16,137 --> 04:28:18,319 She's there, and she's sort of caressing herself like this, 5668 04:28:18,343 --> 04:28:22,172 and I'm just going like, nobody's looking at that hand. 5669 04:28:26,861 --> 04:28:29,516 Mike Maddi designed this creature. 5670 04:28:34,033 --> 04:28:35,734 It was like bald, and had these huge fangs, 5671 04:28:35,757 --> 04:28:39,102 and these long, sinewy arms, and talons. 5672 04:28:40,585 --> 04:28:44,516 And it took five of us to work that puppet. 5673 04:28:48,172 --> 04:28:49,595 It's definitely a major leap 5674 04:28:49,620 --> 04:28:52,078 from "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare" in terms of the effects. 5675 04:28:52,102 --> 04:28:54,965 The record starts bubbling up. 5676 04:28:57,033 --> 04:28:58,561 What the fuck? 5677 04:28:58,585 --> 04:29:02,000 And then it becomes this creature that attacks him. 5678 04:29:06,689 --> 04:29:09,078 Probably the best effect in the movie, 5679 04:29:09,102 --> 04:29:13,734 listening to metal, and metal inviting in this monster. 5680 04:29:13,757 --> 04:29:16,896 It's clearly playing on satanic panic. 5681 04:29:21,102 --> 04:29:23,665 Maybe the parents in the PTA have a point, 5682 04:29:23,689 --> 04:29:25,941 and this is Satan music. 5683 04:29:25,965 --> 04:29:27,137 So that's kind of funny. 5684 04:29:28,137 --> 04:29:29,137 Let's make blood city! 5685 04:29:33,033 --> 04:29:35,388 "Black Roses", yeah the band actually are from hell. 5686 04:29:35,413 --> 04:29:37,010 What do you know? 5687 04:29:37,033 --> 04:29:38,274 We are the Black Roses. 5688 04:29:39,655 --> 04:29:42,078 The flowers of evil! 5689 04:29:42,102 --> 04:29:44,000 You have been chosen. 5690 04:29:52,896 --> 04:29:54,112 "The Brain". 5691 04:29:54,137 --> 04:29:55,319 What I love about that title 5692 04:29:55,343 --> 04:29:57,388 is that nobody would second guess 5693 04:29:57,413 --> 04:29:59,217 that a movie called "The Brain" 5694 04:29:59,240 --> 04:30:02,102 is about a brain that kills people. 5695 04:30:08,792 --> 04:30:12,251 The plot revolves around this evil scientist 5696 04:30:12,274 --> 04:30:14,388 played by David Gale, who you might remember 5697 04:30:14,413 --> 04:30:17,147 as the professor in "Re-Animator". 5698 04:30:17,172 --> 04:30:18,172 I will be famous! 5699 04:30:21,896 --> 04:30:25,527 He runs this TV show that brainwashes people, 5700 04:30:25,550 --> 04:30:27,561 and gains control of their minds 5701 04:30:27,585 --> 04:30:29,976 with the help of this weird brain monster, 5702 04:30:30,000 --> 04:30:32,493 and then there's this rebel high school student, 5703 04:30:32,516 --> 04:30:35,147 who's the only one who can resist the brain's 5704 04:30:35,172 --> 04:30:37,861 mind controlling power, and save the day. 5705 04:30:39,481 --> 04:30:40,700 You can go now. 5706 04:30:40,724 --> 04:30:42,010 What the hell happened to me? 5707 04:30:42,033 --> 04:30:44,837 But not without some horrific hallucinations. 5708 04:30:44,861 --> 04:30:47,010 The protagonist, he's driving the car, 5709 04:30:47,033 --> 04:30:50,424 and the brain is sort of taking over his mind. 5710 04:30:50,448 --> 04:30:51,976 I mean, could you imagine that? 5711 04:30:52,000 --> 04:30:53,182 If you're driving a car, 5712 04:30:53,206 --> 04:30:55,309 and then you just see a video wipe transition 5713 04:30:56,240 --> 04:30:57,724 turn into a brain? 5714 04:30:58,585 --> 04:31:00,000 Holy shit. 5715 04:31:05,792 --> 04:31:07,251 Look at that brain. 5716 04:31:07,274 --> 04:31:08,976 You can't tell how it moves around. 5717 04:31:09,000 --> 04:31:10,906 All you see is this enormous face 5718 04:31:10,931 --> 04:31:12,826 coming after people. 5719 04:31:15,343 --> 04:31:18,724 It's kind of scary, but it's also really funny. 5720 04:31:24,000 --> 04:31:25,217 That's food for thought. 5721 04:31:25,240 --> 04:31:26,837 I mean, you just look at that thing, 5722 04:31:26,861 --> 04:31:28,689 and you gotta love it. 5723 04:31:30,000 --> 04:31:32,319 So there's this toy and a cartoon in the 80s 5724 04:31:32,343 --> 04:31:33,941 called Madballs. 5725 04:31:33,965 --> 04:31:35,493 Madballs, Madballs! 5726 04:31:35,516 --> 04:31:37,424 Gross for one, gross for all! 5727 04:31:37,448 --> 04:31:39,043 We play with a Madball! 5728 04:31:39,067 --> 04:31:40,354 They're gross! 5729 04:31:40,379 --> 04:31:41,320 That's what the brain looks like. 5730 04:31:41,344 --> 04:31:43,965 It's a giant Madball attacking. 5731 04:31:56,620 --> 04:31:59,217 I worked in Madrid on a wonderful film 5732 04:31:59,240 --> 04:32:00,734 called "Howl of the Devil". 5733 04:32:00,757 --> 04:32:01,976 I love Spain. 5734 04:32:02,000 --> 04:32:03,078 I've done quite a bit of work in Spain 5735 04:32:03,102 --> 04:32:05,585 with Sinbad, and various things. 5736 04:32:10,000 --> 04:32:12,665 Paul Naschy, both directing and as an actor 5737 04:32:12,689 --> 04:32:13,596 in his own right. 5738 04:32:13,620 --> 04:32:15,826 He had such presence on camera. 5739 04:32:23,724 --> 04:32:26,931 Menacing presence, but he was very charismatic. 5740 04:32:34,826 --> 04:32:36,388 And I'd be speaking English to him, 5741 04:32:36,413 --> 04:32:38,931 and in post, they'd dub him. 5742 04:32:43,965 --> 04:32:45,871 The plot basically was this man, 5743 04:32:45,896 --> 04:32:48,493 by day, he was quite normal, head of the house, 5744 04:32:48,516 --> 04:32:50,906 and he had his lovely son, Sergio. 5745 04:32:50,931 --> 04:32:52,906 And I was the maid that came to clean up, 5746 04:32:52,931 --> 04:32:55,319 and look after the son, basically. 5747 04:32:55,343 --> 04:32:57,319 But then by night, he would change 5748 04:32:57,343 --> 04:32:59,493 into these wonderful characters. 5749 04:32:59,516 --> 04:33:03,217 He became Frankenstein, he became the wolf man. 5750 04:33:03,240 --> 04:33:05,275 These very strange characters. 5751 04:33:12,723 --> 04:33:14,700 Some of the sequences we had to do 5752 04:33:14,723 --> 04:33:17,319 the man with a great big chainsaw 5753 04:33:17,344 --> 04:33:19,182 that came running after us. 5754 04:33:19,205 --> 04:33:22,516 No! 5755 04:33:23,931 --> 04:33:25,148 Carmen. 5756 04:33:25,171 --> 04:33:26,802 I liked her, because she was very proud. 5757 04:33:26,827 --> 04:33:28,734 Quite a holy Catholic lady. 5758 04:33:28,758 --> 04:33:30,871 And then the priest, who was a lovely 5759 04:33:30,896 --> 04:33:32,448 sweet, sweet actor. 5760 04:33:35,448 --> 04:33:38,067 Was trying to molest her, to attack her. 5761 04:33:39,585 --> 04:33:41,251 It was quite an emotional scene, actually, for me. 5762 04:33:41,275 --> 04:33:43,251 And for him, because he was so upset. 5763 04:33:43,275 --> 04:33:45,044 He spoke English, he said I'm so sorry, 5764 04:33:45,067 --> 04:33:46,562 he says, so sorry. 5765 04:33:46,585 --> 04:33:48,862 Paul want me to do this, and I don't want to do it. 5766 04:33:50,000 --> 04:33:51,631 I said, we'll make it look as good as we can, 5767 04:33:51,654 --> 04:33:54,423 but I might push you and punch you a bit. 5768 04:33:54,448 --> 04:33:55,388 He said, that's okay. 5769 04:33:55,413 --> 04:33:56,218 He said, I don't mind. 5770 04:33:56,241 --> 04:33:57,769 You do what you do. 5771 04:33:57,793 --> 04:33:59,182 So then we went for it, 5772 04:33:59,205 --> 04:34:02,033 and I managed to get away from him, basically. 5773 04:34:07,379 --> 04:34:09,871 It felt like one of my better scenes, 5774 04:34:09,896 --> 04:34:13,079 because she was in a really state of distress before it, 5775 04:34:13,102 --> 04:34:15,079 and this exacerbated it, 5776 04:34:15,102 --> 04:34:17,067 made it far worse for her. 5777 04:34:21,827 --> 04:34:24,837 Paul was, to me, the king of Spanish cinema. 5778 04:34:24,862 --> 04:34:25,838 He absolutely was. 5779 04:34:25,863 --> 04:34:27,827 People loved him. 5780 04:34:42,241 --> 04:34:43,734 When we talk about genre, and we try to put things 5781 04:34:43,758 --> 04:34:46,286 in boxes, one of the ways we got in trouble very early 5782 04:34:46,310 --> 04:34:49,275 was we conflated a setting with a feeling. 5783 04:34:50,241 --> 04:34:51,871 Horror is an emotion. 5784 04:34:51,896 --> 04:34:54,251 So you can have a horror in space. 5785 04:34:54,275 --> 04:34:55,631 You can horror in the old west. 5786 04:34:55,654 --> 04:34:56,906 You can have horror in a comedy. 5787 04:34:56,931 --> 04:35:00,275 It looked like this! 5788 04:35:01,516 --> 04:35:03,526 Horror is about a feeling that you evoke 5789 04:35:03,550 --> 04:35:04,940 in your audience. 5790 04:35:04,965 --> 04:35:05,965 Lollipops! 5791 04:35:07,862 --> 04:35:11,079 And all free today! 5792 04:35:11,102 --> 04:35:13,079 Horror is a more flexible genre 5793 04:35:13,102 --> 04:35:16,044 than people realize, and oftentimes it can be found 5794 04:35:16,067 --> 04:35:19,079 hiding within other genres, nested in there, 5795 04:35:19,102 --> 04:35:21,241 waiting to strike at any moment. 5796 04:35:23,379 --> 04:35:25,148 Fear is always there. 5797 04:35:25,171 --> 04:35:27,700 It's just one decision, or one thought, 5798 04:35:27,723 --> 04:35:30,769 or one perspective away from being right in your face. 5799 04:35:30,793 --> 04:35:33,171 Any movie could suddenly become a horror movie. 5800 04:35:35,275 --> 04:35:36,423 You're dead. 5801 04:35:36,448 --> 04:35:38,217 Horror is catching you off guard, 5802 04:35:38,241 --> 04:35:40,631 and taking you off your axis somewhat. 5803 04:35:40,654 --> 04:35:41,654 No! 5804 04:35:48,310 --> 04:35:49,596 The horror has been a part of our lives, 5805 04:35:49,619 --> 04:35:50,837 new just didn't know it. 5806 04:35:50,862 --> 04:35:52,871 It was dressed up in fairy tales. 5807 04:35:52,896 --> 04:35:54,286 But it's always been a part of us, 5808 04:35:54,310 --> 04:35:56,562 because fear and darkness 5809 04:35:56,585 --> 04:35:58,079 is always a part of your life. 5810 04:35:58,102 --> 04:35:59,102 It's part of life. 5811 04:36:00,033 --> 04:36:01,734 Disney goes very dark. 5812 04:36:01,758 --> 04:36:03,631 "Pinocchio", for instance. 5813 04:36:03,654 --> 04:36:05,275 The Pleasure Island scene. 5814 04:36:06,516 --> 04:36:08,906 Bad little boys doing bad little things, 5815 04:36:08,931 --> 04:36:11,492 smoking cigars, gambling, 5816 04:36:11,516 --> 04:36:13,354 until they turn into donkeys, 5817 04:36:13,379 --> 04:36:14,837 because it's a cautionary tale. 5818 04:36:14,862 --> 04:36:17,492 They're doing the shit they're not supposed to be doing, 5819 04:36:17,516 --> 04:36:19,136 and they just start transforming. 5820 04:36:20,241 --> 04:36:21,585 What do I do? 5821 04:36:22,481 --> 04:36:23,526 "Willy Wonka". 5822 04:36:23,550 --> 04:36:25,700 Not a horror movie, per se. 5823 04:36:25,723 --> 04:36:27,388 Does it have horror elements? 5824 04:36:27,413 --> 04:36:29,492 Abso-fucking-lutely. 5825 04:36:29,516 --> 04:36:31,975 Round the world and home again! 5826 04:36:32,000 --> 04:36:33,871 That's the sailor's way! 5827 04:36:33,896 --> 04:36:36,871 The horrific nightmare boat sequence, 5828 04:36:36,896 --> 04:36:38,596 where he's just staring deadpan, 5829 04:36:38,619 --> 04:36:41,009 and starts singing that weird song. 5830 04:36:41,033 --> 04:36:44,009 ♪ There's no earthly way of knowing ♪ 5831 04:36:44,033 --> 04:36:45,457 He's singing. 5832 04:36:45,481 --> 04:36:47,423 And there's like, these horrible projection 5833 04:36:47,448 --> 04:36:48,793 that are happening. 5834 04:36:50,862 --> 04:36:53,044 As a child, I was sitting there watching this 5835 04:36:53,067 --> 04:36:55,286 thinking what the fuck is happening? 5836 04:36:55,310 --> 04:36:56,734 Now I am gonna be sick! 5837 04:36:56,758 --> 04:36:58,354 Never mind the fact that these children 5838 04:36:58,379 --> 04:37:00,457 are just getting offed, one by one. 5839 04:37:00,481 --> 04:37:02,379 It's kind of like a slasher movie. 5840 04:37:03,205 --> 04:37:04,631 She was a bad egg. 5841 04:37:04,654 --> 04:37:07,562 I seem to find horror in every film I see 5842 04:37:07,585 --> 04:37:09,481 at some point. 5843 04:37:10,827 --> 04:37:13,354 Any time you're writing interesting characters, 5844 04:37:13,379 --> 04:37:14,734 they're gonna have a dark side, 5845 04:37:14,758 --> 04:37:17,492 and so if you get some people with problems, 5846 04:37:17,516 --> 04:37:19,802 and issues, and anger, and stuff, 5847 04:37:19,827 --> 04:37:22,388 then you have a dangerous situation, 5848 04:37:22,413 --> 04:37:24,516 and that's scary. 5849 04:37:26,241 --> 04:37:28,044 We might not call "Blue Velvet" horror, 5850 04:37:28,067 --> 04:37:30,113 but I do know it was covered in Fangoria. 5851 04:37:30,136 --> 04:37:31,906 David Lynch is bouncing in and out of horror 5852 04:37:31,931 --> 04:37:33,388 throughout all of his films, 5853 04:37:33,413 --> 04:37:35,182 and I think horror fans, 5854 04:37:35,205 --> 04:37:36,596 our antenna perked up. 5855 04:37:36,619 --> 04:37:39,009 It delivers horror probably more effectively 5856 04:37:39,033 --> 04:37:41,596 than half the movies sitting in the horror section 5857 04:37:41,619 --> 04:37:42,688 at the video store. 5858 04:37:44,688 --> 04:37:45,906 The severed ear moment. 5859 04:37:45,931 --> 04:37:47,044 The camera moves in. 5860 04:37:47,067 --> 04:37:47,976 There's ants on it. 5861 04:37:48,001 --> 04:37:49,906 It's incredibly graphic. 5862 04:37:49,931 --> 04:37:51,481 That's a pure horror moment. 5863 04:37:53,965 --> 04:37:55,665 Don't you fucking look at me! 5864 04:37:55,688 --> 04:37:58,492 Frank Booth is one of the great horror villains. 5865 04:37:58,516 --> 04:38:01,457 He was terrifying, because he was unpredictable. 5866 04:38:01,481 --> 04:38:04,113 He was a madman, and it felt unsafe 5867 04:38:04,136 --> 04:38:06,354 in a way that by, say, 1986, 5868 04:38:06,379 --> 04:38:08,136 a lot of our movie slashers didn't. 5869 04:38:09,344 --> 04:38:11,457 Does horror even need to be scary? 5870 04:38:11,481 --> 04:38:13,734 It just has to disturb you in some kind of way. 5871 04:38:13,758 --> 04:38:14,975 What's cool about the 1980s 5872 04:38:15,000 --> 04:38:17,286 is horror was so big, that it actually 5873 04:38:17,310 --> 04:38:19,516 infiltrated other genres. 5874 04:38:20,448 --> 04:38:22,871 Ow! 5875 04:38:22,896 --> 04:38:24,217 I'm glad to see you finally made it 5876 04:38:24,241 --> 04:38:25,906 to the suburbs, bitch! 5877 04:38:25,931 --> 04:38:28,388 My first horror film, "Return to Oz". 5878 04:38:28,413 --> 04:38:30,562 It's like mombie taking her heads off, 5879 04:38:30,585 --> 04:38:32,000 screaming, the wheelers. 5880 04:38:34,205 --> 04:38:35,423 Come here! 5881 04:38:35,448 --> 04:38:37,319 It can be a character, 5882 04:38:37,344 --> 04:38:39,665 like one person in that film brings the horror. 5883 04:38:39,688 --> 04:38:41,654 The judge in "Roger Rabbit", right? 5884 04:38:42,585 --> 04:38:44,079 When I killed your brother, 5885 04:38:44,102 --> 04:38:46,102 I talked just like this! 5886 04:38:49,067 --> 04:38:51,182 "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom", 5887 04:38:51,205 --> 04:38:55,286 looking as a human hand plunged into the chest 5888 04:38:55,310 --> 04:38:58,113 of a sacrificial victim, and the beating heart 5889 04:38:58,136 --> 04:38:59,354 was ripped out. 5890 04:38:59,379 --> 04:39:02,906 This horrifying ritual really held 5891 04:39:02,931 --> 04:39:04,550 all the elements of horror. 5892 04:39:09,344 --> 04:39:11,113 A movie that scared the crap out of me 5893 04:39:11,136 --> 04:39:13,793 when I was little was "The Wiz". 5894 04:39:18,688 --> 04:39:20,837 My favorite movie of all time was "Wizard of Oz", 5895 04:39:20,862 --> 04:39:22,251 which is also pretty scary. 5896 04:39:22,275 --> 04:39:23,286 You know, you get to those winged monkeys, 5897 04:39:23,310 --> 04:39:25,033 and it's like, terror. 5898 04:39:27,758 --> 04:39:28,665 Help, help! 5899 04:39:28,688 --> 04:39:29,688 Help! 5900 04:39:30,862 --> 04:39:33,148 "The Dark Crystal", "The Black Cauldron", 5901 04:39:33,171 --> 04:39:35,286 like animation, horror. 5902 04:39:35,310 --> 04:39:36,734 The field. 5903 04:39:36,758 --> 04:39:38,758 It's covered with blood. 5904 04:39:42,862 --> 04:39:44,906 These movies have elements of horror, 5905 04:39:44,931 --> 04:39:46,413 and that's what we grew up on. 5906 04:39:48,585 --> 04:39:51,700 The psyche can do crazy things to you, as well. 5907 04:39:51,723 --> 04:39:53,148 Your thoughts can turn dark on you, 5908 04:39:53,171 --> 04:39:55,526 and that's also scary, and a person that you know 5909 04:39:55,550 --> 04:39:57,837 can change on you, and that's scary. 5910 04:39:57,862 --> 04:39:59,251 Aging is scary. 5911 04:39:59,275 --> 04:40:00,734 Dreams are scary. 5912 04:40:00,758 --> 04:40:01,632 The dark is scary. 5913 04:40:01,655 --> 04:40:03,388 There's dark everyday. 5914 04:40:03,413 --> 04:40:06,182 It's gonna get dark everyday. 5915 04:40:06,205 --> 04:40:07,585 It's gonna get scary. 5916 04:40:08,654 --> 04:40:09,458 Wait! 5917 04:40:09,483 --> 04:40:10,492 Ow! 5918 04:40:10,516 --> 04:40:14,769 Get away! 5919 04:40:14,793 --> 04:40:16,000 Horror is everywhere. 5920 04:40:17,102 --> 04:40:18,102 It's everywhere. 5921 04:40:30,688 --> 04:40:33,940 "Things" a horrifying sensation 5922 04:40:33,965 --> 04:40:36,837 that'll rip apart your soul. 5923 04:40:36,862 --> 04:40:39,700 A lot of people know that Canadian horror movies 5924 04:40:39,723 --> 04:40:41,700 are Canadian just because they're in English, 5925 04:40:41,723 --> 04:40:44,148 so they get lumped in with American ones, 5926 04:40:44,171 --> 04:40:45,354 but don't be fooled. 5927 04:40:45,379 --> 04:40:46,837 Just because Canadians have a reputation 5928 04:40:46,862 --> 04:40:49,079 for being polite doesn't mean our horror movies are. 5929 04:40:49,102 --> 04:40:51,457 Canada actually made a lot of slasher movies 5930 04:40:51,481 --> 04:40:52,906 in the 80s, which is appropriate, 5931 04:40:52,931 --> 04:40:54,354 because we helped start the genre 5932 04:40:54,379 --> 04:40:57,136 with the original "Black Christmas" back in the 70s. 5933 04:40:58,688 --> 04:41:00,481 Why should America have all the fun? 5934 04:41:01,654 --> 04:41:03,837 In addition to all those great slasher movies, 5935 04:41:03,862 --> 04:41:06,802 Canada was also responsible for making this movie 5936 04:41:06,827 --> 04:41:08,906 called "Things", which has been called 5937 04:41:08,931 --> 04:41:11,171 one of the worst movies ever made. 5938 04:41:16,205 --> 04:41:17,492 Oh no! 5939 04:41:17,516 --> 04:41:18,837 What did I do? 5940 04:41:18,862 --> 04:41:21,423 These two idiots sit around and drink beer 5941 04:41:21,448 --> 04:41:23,769 for a little bit, and then all of a sudden, 5942 04:41:23,793 --> 04:41:26,793 these weird ant thingies invade their home. 5943 04:41:30,033 --> 04:41:31,734 Oh my god! 5944 04:41:31,758 --> 04:41:32,758 Susan! 5945 04:41:33,619 --> 04:41:35,700 It's not a horror comedy, 5946 04:41:35,723 --> 04:41:37,975 but I'd be hard pressed to find something funnier, 5947 04:41:38,000 --> 04:41:39,862 because it's fucking terrible. 5948 04:41:46,516 --> 04:41:49,975 The whole thing has a very home movie quality to it. 5949 04:41:50,000 --> 04:41:52,354 Everything looks homemade, like the little ants 5950 04:41:52,379 --> 04:41:54,596 looks like they're made out of paper mache, 5951 04:41:54,619 --> 04:41:56,906 the blood looks like they mixed food coloring 5952 04:41:56,931 --> 04:41:58,148 and corn syrup. 5953 04:41:58,171 --> 04:42:00,665 Mm, that's human blood, all right. 5954 04:42:00,688 --> 04:42:03,286 "Things" might just be the most Canadian 5955 04:42:03,310 --> 04:42:05,148 movie ever made, and I don't just mean 5956 04:42:05,171 --> 04:42:06,906 most Canadian horror movie, 5957 04:42:06,931 --> 04:42:10,423 I mean the most Canadian movie, period. 5958 04:42:10,448 --> 04:42:11,448 Oh thanks, man. 5959 04:42:12,205 --> 04:42:13,388 You can practically smell 5960 04:42:13,413 --> 04:42:15,354 the half empty Molson bottles, 5961 04:42:15,379 --> 04:42:17,562 watching this movie. 5962 04:42:17,585 --> 04:42:21,182 Blood is just dripping like maple syrup! 5963 04:42:21,205 --> 04:42:22,734 The big selling point for "Things" 5964 04:42:22,758 --> 04:42:25,596 is that Ginger Lynn is in it, the famous porn star. 5965 04:42:25,619 --> 04:42:27,286 But when you see the movie, she's not doing 5966 04:42:27,310 --> 04:42:29,319 anything porn related. 5967 04:42:29,344 --> 04:42:31,492 She's like a newscaster for, I don't know, 5968 04:42:31,516 --> 04:42:33,423 30 seconds at the beginning of the movie. 5969 04:42:33,448 --> 04:42:34,975 They probably took whatever budget they had 5970 04:42:35,000 --> 04:42:36,734 and gave her half of it, 5971 04:42:36,758 --> 04:42:38,550 so what, two grand maybe. 5972 04:42:40,585 --> 04:42:42,734 At the end of the movie, they start killing 5973 04:42:42,758 --> 04:42:44,665 these weird ant things with a chainsaw, 5974 04:42:44,688 --> 04:42:46,492 and spraying fake blood everywhere. 5975 04:42:46,516 --> 04:42:47,802 I really hope the guys who made it 5976 04:42:47,827 --> 04:42:49,906 got their damage deposit back on the place 5977 04:42:49,931 --> 04:42:51,241 they were staying. 5978 04:42:53,275 --> 04:42:54,252 But now that everyone seems 5979 04:42:54,276 --> 04:42:56,354 to be talking about it again, 5980 04:42:56,379 --> 04:43:01,379 do I dare subject myself to the ridiculosity of "Things"? 5981 04:43:02,550 --> 04:43:04,241 I'll be okay! 5982 04:43:14,136 --> 04:43:16,769 The situation in Venice is now critical. 5983 04:43:16,793 --> 04:43:19,286 A giant toxic cloud has settled over the city, 5984 04:43:19,310 --> 04:43:21,562 and is slowly destroying every form of life. 5985 04:43:21,585 --> 04:43:23,769 I'm in an infamous movie 5986 04:43:23,793 --> 04:43:25,700 that has several different titles. 5987 04:43:25,723 --> 04:43:28,009 "Shocking Dark", AKA "Terminator", 5988 04:43:28,033 --> 04:43:29,585 or da-da-da-da-da. 5989 04:43:31,000 --> 04:43:34,354 The movie originally was called "Shocking Magenta". 5990 04:43:34,379 --> 04:43:35,596 How are you gonna translate that? 5991 04:43:35,619 --> 04:43:37,113 That doesn't work in any language. 5992 04:43:37,136 --> 04:43:38,217 That's not the only name 5993 04:43:38,241 --> 04:43:39,769 it's called "Contaminator". 5994 04:43:39,793 --> 04:43:42,217 "The Killers of Venice Beach". 5995 04:43:42,241 --> 04:43:44,631 It has lots of names, and that has something 5996 04:43:44,654 --> 04:43:45,940 to do with distribution. 5997 04:43:45,965 --> 04:43:48,975 Venice before the year 2000. 5998 04:43:49,000 --> 04:43:51,596 "Shocking Dark" is a movie where the filmmakers 5999 04:43:51,619 --> 04:43:55,009 attempt to warn people of the hazards 6000 04:43:55,033 --> 04:43:57,182 of industrial pollution. 6001 04:43:57,205 --> 04:43:59,931 Fear fighting against the unknown. 6002 04:44:00,862 --> 04:44:02,009 Hurry! 6003 04:44:02,033 --> 04:44:04,009 They're coming, they're coming! 6004 04:44:04,033 --> 04:44:06,251 My character in "Shocking Dark" 6005 04:44:06,275 --> 04:44:07,975 is Lieutenant Koster, 6006 04:44:08,000 --> 04:44:11,148 and I'm telling all these guys what to do. 6007 04:44:11,171 --> 04:44:13,217 All right, you bunch of pussies! 6008 04:44:13,241 --> 04:44:16,217 I'm back, and I'm kicking ass! 6009 04:44:16,241 --> 04:44:18,734 And I'm not politically correct about it, 6010 04:44:18,758 --> 04:44:21,009 and I don't care, but it's because 6011 04:44:21,033 --> 04:44:22,457 they're my guys. 6012 04:44:22,481 --> 04:44:23,389 Careful, baby. 6013 04:44:23,414 --> 04:44:24,871 That thing just might go off! 6014 04:44:24,896 --> 04:44:27,354 They're sending us into the depths of Venice. 6015 04:44:27,379 --> 04:44:30,009 My impression is they're gonna find out 6016 04:44:30,033 --> 04:44:33,148 it's a creature from another planet. 6017 04:44:33,171 --> 04:44:35,631 I can't say that was exactly the plot 6018 04:44:35,654 --> 04:44:37,862 when I started the movie. 6019 04:44:38,827 --> 04:44:40,448 And they're waiting for you! 6020 04:44:42,723 --> 04:44:43,632 Who are they? 6021 04:44:43,655 --> 04:44:44,837 What are you talking about? 6022 04:44:44,862 --> 04:44:46,906 It's a sandwich that didn't even have 6023 04:44:46,931 --> 04:44:48,044 a whole loaf of bread. 6024 04:44:48,067 --> 04:44:50,251 So it starts out pumpernickel, 6025 04:44:50,275 --> 04:44:52,251 and then it ends up a brioche, 6026 04:44:52,275 --> 04:44:54,286 and then it's a slice of pizza. 6027 04:44:54,310 --> 04:44:56,793 Can't you smell that stink of shit? 6028 04:44:59,688 --> 04:45:00,906 The creatures in "Shocking Dark". 6029 04:45:00,931 --> 04:45:03,354 I have been told they remind people 6030 04:45:03,379 --> 04:45:05,319 of the creature from "Alien", 6031 04:45:05,344 --> 04:45:07,079 but when I was in the movie, 6032 04:45:07,102 --> 04:45:08,562 and as the movie was told to me, 6033 04:45:08,585 --> 04:45:10,319 by the director, Bruno Mattei, 6034 04:45:10,344 --> 04:45:12,354 he intended it to be more 6035 04:45:12,379 --> 04:45:14,654 of "The Creature From the Black Lagoon". 6036 04:45:18,516 --> 04:45:20,769 We're chemically dumping in the waters around Venice, 6037 04:45:20,793 --> 04:45:24,596 so originally the concept was this thing, 6038 04:45:24,619 --> 04:45:25,975 maybe it got radiated, 6039 04:45:26,000 --> 04:45:28,171 because that's what they were kind of thinking. 6040 04:45:29,516 --> 04:45:31,275 Something wraps around my neck. 6041 04:45:34,827 --> 04:45:36,079 Go back and watch carefully. 6042 04:45:36,102 --> 04:45:37,802 So this hand is going oh, oh, 6043 04:45:37,827 --> 04:45:39,906 and this hand from below is wrapping around 6044 04:45:39,931 --> 04:45:42,319 my own neck, and I'm going like that. 6045 04:45:42,344 --> 04:45:43,975 So every time somebody says to me 6046 04:45:44,000 --> 04:45:46,492 it's a ripoff of "Alien" and "Terminator", 6047 04:45:46,516 --> 04:45:48,906 I go not if you're holding the rubber mask 6048 04:45:48,931 --> 04:45:50,379 with your own hand 6049 04:45:54,413 --> 04:45:56,113 "Shocking Dark" is such a shameless ripoff 6050 04:45:56,136 --> 04:45:57,940 of so many other things that it was legally not 6051 04:45:57,965 --> 04:46:00,688 able to be released in the States for many years. 6052 04:46:03,688 --> 04:46:05,562 This is the end of the line. 6053 04:46:05,585 --> 04:46:07,009 You look at movies by guys 6054 04:46:07,033 --> 04:46:08,286 like Bruno Mattei, and you think it was 6055 04:46:08,310 --> 04:46:10,700 probably a pretty good party onset. 6056 04:46:10,723 --> 04:46:12,388 End of the line. 6057 04:46:12,413 --> 04:46:13,700 Maybe as long as the filmmakers are having 6058 04:46:13,723 --> 04:46:15,148 a great time, you hope it bleeds through 6059 04:46:15,171 --> 04:46:16,688 to the screen. 6060 04:46:22,413 --> 04:46:25,871 Bruno Mattei was by no means kidding himself 6061 04:46:25,896 --> 04:46:28,388 of where he was in the film industry. 6062 04:46:28,413 --> 04:46:30,275 And he's in on the joke. 6063 04:46:36,344 --> 04:46:38,319 I worked on two movies with him, 6064 04:46:38,344 --> 04:46:40,526 and he was always up against a budget, 6065 04:46:40,550 --> 04:46:42,388 and he never took it badly, 6066 04:46:42,413 --> 04:46:44,631 he was never in a bad mood, 6067 04:46:44,654 --> 04:46:46,044 and he was a lot of fun. 6068 04:46:46,067 --> 04:46:46,907 I miss him. 6069 04:46:46,932 --> 04:46:48,205 I miss him a great deal. 6070 04:46:54,102 --> 04:46:57,769 A new film by Alejandro Jodorowsky. 6071 04:46:57,793 --> 04:46:59,310 "Santa Sangre". 6072 04:47:01,448 --> 04:47:05,354 "Santa Sangre" is a Felini-esque kind of nightmare 6073 04:47:05,379 --> 04:47:09,286 from the perverted mind of Alejandro Jodorowsky. 6074 04:47:09,310 --> 04:47:12,079 It's just saturated with blood, 6075 04:47:12,102 --> 04:47:16,700 circus carnage, crazy cults, skin, surrealism, 6076 04:47:16,723 --> 04:47:19,000 and enough symbolism to send you to a shrink. 6077 04:47:24,723 --> 04:47:26,009 Now you're a man. 6078 04:47:26,033 --> 04:47:28,940 It is an absolute masterpiece. 6079 04:47:28,965 --> 04:47:32,665 Jodorowsky, he was approached by Dario Argento's brother, 6080 04:47:32,688 --> 04:47:34,700 Claudio, to make a movie. 6081 04:47:34,723 --> 04:47:36,596 It was essentially, I need you to make 6082 04:47:36,619 --> 04:47:39,665 a Dario Argento movie, but by Alejandro Jodorowsky. 6083 04:47:39,688 --> 04:47:42,802 Well, he ended up taking it way further 6084 04:47:42,827 --> 04:47:43,975 into the direction of Jodorowsky, 6085 04:47:44,000 --> 04:47:46,241 and making something entirely unique. 6086 04:47:48,344 --> 04:47:50,665 Sure, it's painted in a horror movie, 6087 04:47:50,688 --> 04:47:52,354 but it's a coming of age story 6088 04:47:52,379 --> 04:47:56,275 about a boy growing up in a circus freak setting, 6089 04:47:57,481 --> 04:47:59,700 that really shows the streets of Mexico City 6090 04:47:59,723 --> 04:48:01,217 in a different light. 6091 04:48:01,241 --> 04:48:03,113 There's something so special about all these characters, 6092 04:48:03,136 --> 04:48:05,562 being in makeup, being in their costumes, 6093 04:48:05,585 --> 04:48:08,182 and that's how they are every day of their lives, 6094 04:48:08,205 --> 04:48:10,492 and actually also something very sad 6095 04:48:10,516 --> 04:48:11,965 about that, too. 6096 04:48:18,310 --> 04:48:20,217 That that is the identity of these characters. 6097 04:48:20,241 --> 04:48:22,871 That is the way that people see them as, 6098 04:48:22,896 --> 04:48:26,654 as clowns, as performers, as freaks. 6099 04:48:28,481 --> 04:48:30,113 It just shows such a truth, 6100 04:48:30,136 --> 04:48:32,492 not just in Mexico, but it shows a truth 6101 04:48:32,516 --> 04:48:34,481 of how easy we are judgmental. 6102 04:48:36,862 --> 04:48:38,906 There's so many scenes in that film 6103 04:48:38,931 --> 04:48:41,148 I did not expect to continue to escalate, 6104 04:48:41,171 --> 04:48:42,837 to go oh my god! 6105 04:48:42,862 --> 04:48:43,666 Oh my god! 6106 04:48:43,689 --> 04:48:45,241 Ugh! 6107 04:48:46,481 --> 04:48:48,217 The dad, the owner of this circus, 6108 04:48:48,241 --> 04:48:50,975 just has an affair, spoiler alert, 6109 04:48:51,000 --> 04:48:53,113 cuts this woman's arms off, 6110 04:48:53,136 --> 04:48:54,769 and it's like what the! 6111 04:48:54,793 --> 04:48:56,758 It's insane! 6112 04:48:58,758 --> 04:49:00,492 The wonderful character of Conchita, 6113 04:49:00,516 --> 04:49:02,217 and you just see how her arms 6114 04:49:02,241 --> 04:49:03,734 get completely cut off, 6115 04:49:03,758 --> 04:49:05,526 blood pouring out of her arms, 6116 04:49:05,550 --> 04:49:08,413 and how she's just looking at the sky, at us. 6117 04:49:10,550 --> 04:49:12,044 The one-two punch of attacking them 6118 04:49:12,067 --> 04:49:14,148 during sex and throwing acid on them, 6119 04:49:14,171 --> 04:49:16,975 and then getting both of her arms chopped off, 6120 04:49:17,000 --> 04:49:19,182 with beautiful Simon Boswell music 6121 04:49:19,205 --> 04:49:20,149 playing in the background. 6122 04:49:20,172 --> 04:49:22,319 That's hard to equal in cinema, 6123 04:49:22,344 --> 04:49:24,033 let alone in this movie. 6124 04:49:28,965 --> 04:49:29,975 And from that point on, 6125 04:49:30,000 --> 04:49:32,526 to see our main character 6126 04:49:32,550 --> 04:49:36,423 trying to find acceptance, love, and freedom 6127 04:49:36,448 --> 04:49:40,319 of his own demons, how he now is trapped 6128 04:49:40,344 --> 04:49:42,596 to be his own mother's arms, 6129 04:49:42,619 --> 04:49:44,871 speaks to such a sadness, 6130 04:49:44,896 --> 04:49:47,079 and such a truth of manipulation. 6131 04:49:47,102 --> 04:49:49,448 It just completely breaks my heart, 6132 04:49:50,413 --> 04:49:52,275 and grosses me out 6133 04:49:56,862 --> 04:49:58,388 "Santa Sangre" was not afraid to talk 6134 04:49:58,413 --> 04:50:00,700 about the problems of machismo, 6135 04:50:00,723 --> 04:50:04,734 the class system, and just the difference in cultures 6136 04:50:04,758 --> 04:50:06,940 with the Americanos and the Mexicans, 6137 04:50:06,965 --> 04:50:08,148 and all from the point of view 6138 04:50:08,171 --> 04:50:09,423 of an innocent child. 6139 04:50:09,448 --> 04:50:11,631 That corruption, that manipulation, 6140 04:50:11,654 --> 04:50:14,700 how sex and violence can really, really change 6141 04:50:14,723 --> 04:50:18,379 a child's life, that movie is true horror. 6142 04:50:36,793 --> 04:50:38,631 For "Fright Night", I had no sense 6143 04:50:38,654 --> 04:50:40,217 of what is was going to become. 6144 04:50:40,241 --> 04:50:42,631 I thought it was a fun movie, 6145 04:50:42,654 --> 04:50:43,940 it was creative, and it was gonna be 6146 04:50:43,965 --> 04:50:46,423 a little bitty horror movie for that summer. 6147 04:50:46,448 --> 04:50:49,837 Really special experience, and the longer I'm away from it, 6148 04:50:49,862 --> 04:50:52,379 the more I realize that. 6149 04:50:53,619 --> 04:50:54,837 "Fright Night 2". 6150 04:50:54,862 --> 04:50:56,275 ♪ Take me baby 6151 04:50:59,000 --> 04:51:00,802 "Fright Night 2", Tommy Lee Wallace 6152 04:51:00,827 --> 04:51:02,182 did a terrific job. 6153 04:51:02,205 --> 04:51:03,631 I wasn't available. 6154 04:51:03,654 --> 04:51:06,596 Instead I did "Fatal Beauty" with Whoopi Goldberg. 6155 04:51:06,619 --> 04:51:08,550 I should have done "Fright Night 2". 6156 04:51:10,136 --> 04:51:11,802 Johnny. 6157 04:51:11,827 --> 04:51:13,354 Peter. 6158 04:51:13,379 --> 04:51:14,413 It's happening again. 6159 04:51:16,067 --> 04:51:19,113 "Fright Night 2" was really more about the modern 6160 04:51:19,136 --> 04:51:20,975 80s age, when people were really starting 6161 04:51:21,000 --> 04:51:25,665 to experiment and to be curious about cultures and people. 6162 04:51:25,688 --> 04:51:29,379 I give you the new host of Fright Night, Regine! 6163 04:51:31,793 --> 04:51:33,286 From Regine's point of view, 6164 04:51:33,310 --> 04:51:37,067 my only brother, the love of my life, was murdered. 6165 04:51:40,136 --> 04:51:42,550 And I am 2000 years old. 6166 04:51:43,413 --> 04:51:44,413 Uh, come in. 6167 04:51:45,136 --> 04:51:46,044 Thanks. 6168 04:51:46,068 --> 04:51:48,769 I find Charlie Brewster, 6169 04:51:48,793 --> 04:51:52,585 and I play with him like a cat playing with a mouse. 6170 04:51:54,000 --> 04:51:58,286 Julie as Regine was breaking the glass ceiling in a way. 6171 04:51:58,310 --> 04:51:59,413 This is not a dream. 6172 04:52:01,862 --> 04:52:05,631 "Fright Night Part 2" is a lot about inverting 6173 04:52:05,654 --> 04:52:08,940 the sexual and gender stereotypes 6174 04:52:08,965 --> 04:52:12,802 that had traditionally been part of the vampire genre. 6175 04:52:12,827 --> 04:52:15,492 She was taking ownership of lust and power 6176 04:52:15,516 --> 04:52:18,871 and hunger and all of that stuff, 6177 04:52:18,896 --> 04:52:20,758 and she feminized it. 6178 04:52:25,241 --> 04:52:29,769 I think Regine is empowering for women in general, 6179 04:52:29,793 --> 04:52:31,837 and for Latinas. 6180 04:52:31,862 --> 04:52:36,862 There's an eroticism that is beyond gender identification. 6181 04:52:38,275 --> 04:52:42,585 Regine Dandridge, it was very open to love and sensuality. 6182 04:52:47,793 --> 04:52:52,009 She's not just a stark, startling character. 6183 04:52:52,033 --> 04:52:56,379 She's cushy, and warm, and you know. 6184 04:52:58,033 --> 04:53:00,310 Is it hot in here? 6185 04:53:04,205 --> 04:53:06,079 You'll have to get closer than that. 6186 04:53:06,102 --> 04:53:10,286 Peter Vincent was Roddy McDowall's love letter 6187 04:53:10,310 --> 04:53:13,596 to the vampire hunters of the past. 6188 04:53:13,619 --> 04:53:15,550 Peter Cushing, Vincent Price. 6189 04:53:17,379 --> 04:53:18,734 Roddy was a photographer, 6190 04:53:18,758 --> 04:53:20,769 so he was always taking pictures. 6191 04:53:20,793 --> 04:53:23,354 He was into documenting stuff. 6192 04:53:23,379 --> 04:53:27,148 Encyclopedia of movie history. 6193 04:53:27,171 --> 04:53:29,975 He knew where the bodies were buried. 6194 04:53:30,000 --> 04:53:34,079 I kill vampires. 6195 04:53:34,102 --> 04:53:35,492 It was a different movie, 6196 04:53:35,516 --> 04:53:37,802 it was like an army of ghouls and vampires 6197 04:53:37,827 --> 04:53:40,931 and creatures that we were up against this time. 6198 04:53:42,688 --> 04:53:44,975 Russel Clark played Belle, 6199 04:53:45,000 --> 04:53:47,344 a wraith-like vampire on roller skates. 6200 04:53:49,241 --> 04:53:52,044 Those three characters, Jonathan Gries, 6201 04:53:52,067 --> 04:53:54,286 Brian Thompson, and Russel, 6202 04:53:54,310 --> 04:53:57,562 they're all so distinctive and unique 6203 04:53:57,585 --> 04:54:00,413 in the characters that they came up with. 6204 04:54:02,585 --> 04:54:05,448 I have an entourage of fabulous men. 6205 04:54:08,516 --> 04:54:11,769 Russel Clarke, he had choreographed Michael Jackson, 6206 04:54:11,793 --> 04:54:15,148 and Brian Thompson came up with the naming 6207 04:54:15,171 --> 04:54:19,241 all of these bugs with their Latin names. 6208 04:54:26,000 --> 04:54:29,448 There's just a scholarliness to this foursome. 6209 04:54:31,171 --> 04:54:33,000 Are you thirsty, Charlie? 6210 04:54:34,448 --> 04:54:37,526 Once I started transitioning into a vampire, 6211 04:54:37,550 --> 04:54:39,457 I enjoyed getting to fang up 6212 04:54:39,481 --> 04:54:42,113 and get pasty, and all that stuff. 6213 04:54:42,136 --> 04:54:44,113 I had my Christmas cards that year 6214 04:54:44,136 --> 04:54:49,136 were me in a vampire, sort of holiday vampire theme. 6215 04:54:50,793 --> 04:54:52,906 "Fright Night 2" resonates with people, 6216 04:54:52,931 --> 04:54:54,286 there's something for everyone in it. 6217 04:54:54,310 --> 04:54:56,871 And everyone's kind of represented, especially today. 6218 04:54:56,896 --> 04:54:59,275 You notice if someone's not represented now. 6219 04:55:00,413 --> 04:55:02,700 It shocked people that somebody 6220 04:55:02,723 --> 04:55:05,182 would break the rules as much as we did, 6221 04:55:05,205 --> 04:55:08,286 even though it made more money at the box office 6222 04:55:08,310 --> 04:55:11,182 than anything else that opened that weekend, 6223 04:55:11,205 --> 04:55:14,148 I think the whole distribution went into a tailspin, 6224 04:55:14,171 --> 04:55:17,079 and then you could hardly find it on VHS, 6225 04:55:17,102 --> 04:55:19,009 but people have unearthed it, 6226 04:55:19,033 --> 04:55:20,769 literally dug it up from the grave, 6227 04:55:20,793 --> 04:55:22,631 so I'm very grateful to the people 6228 04:55:22,654 --> 04:55:25,481 who've done that, because Regine was really fun. 6229 04:55:26,413 --> 04:55:28,448 Welcome to Fright Night. 6230 04:55:34,241 --> 04:55:35,871 I have such a specific memory 6231 04:55:35,896 --> 04:55:39,906 of begging my dad to take me to see "Relentless" 6232 04:55:39,931 --> 04:55:41,354 when I was too young to see it. 6233 04:55:41,379 --> 04:55:42,631 I was probably 12. 6234 04:55:42,654 --> 04:55:45,251 Judd Nelson is Buck Taylor. 6235 04:55:45,275 --> 04:55:48,136 And Buck Taylor is "Relentless". 6236 04:55:49,827 --> 04:55:52,734 This was a Hollywood maniac slasher, 6237 04:55:52,758 --> 04:55:55,000 so it was a well-produced film. 6238 04:56:00,896 --> 04:56:04,009 Cops chasing a serial killer in Los Angeles. 6239 04:56:04,033 --> 04:56:05,734 Well, who the fuck killed him? 6240 04:56:05,758 --> 04:56:06,562 Well how the fuck do I know? 6241 04:56:06,585 --> 04:56:07,562 It's my first day. 6242 04:56:07,586 --> 04:56:09,596 Judd Nelson is the product 6243 04:56:09,619 --> 04:56:12,631 of an abusive relationship with his father, 6244 04:56:12,654 --> 04:56:17,596 who was a police officer, who he both feared and idolized, 6245 04:56:17,619 --> 04:56:20,286 when he couldn't live up to his father's ideal 6246 04:56:20,310 --> 04:56:22,388 to also become a police officer, 6247 04:56:22,413 --> 04:56:26,079 he decides he's going to go out and kill people 6248 04:56:26,102 --> 04:56:27,827 with his father's name. 6249 04:56:30,344 --> 04:56:32,906 Leo Rossi and Robert Loggia, 6250 04:56:32,931 --> 04:56:34,700 they are investigating it. 6251 04:56:34,723 --> 04:56:35,975 Read this. 6252 04:56:36,000 --> 04:56:37,562 No clues, no nothing. 6253 04:56:37,585 --> 04:56:38,975 What is it? 6254 04:56:39,000 --> 04:56:40,388 The asshole left it. 6255 04:56:40,413 --> 04:56:42,492 John had seen "Maniac", and really liked it, 6256 04:56:42,516 --> 04:56:45,310 and came aboard wanting to play the role. 6257 04:56:47,654 --> 04:56:49,319 For me stylistically, 6258 04:56:49,344 --> 04:56:53,344 it was my Dario Argento film in daylight. 6259 04:56:55,827 --> 04:56:57,837 What really messed me up too with that film 6260 04:56:57,862 --> 04:56:59,148 is there's a pretty brutal 6261 04:56:59,171 --> 04:57:02,550 piano wire strangulation sequence. 6262 04:57:06,033 --> 04:57:08,457 It was intense for me to watch as a kid. 6263 04:57:08,481 --> 04:57:09,481 Isn't that better? 6264 04:57:11,205 --> 04:57:13,148 I like the scene where Judd is running 6265 04:57:13,171 --> 04:57:14,182 on the rooftop. 6266 04:57:14,205 --> 04:57:15,319 We did a little trick there. 6267 04:57:15,344 --> 04:57:16,871 We used a Louma crane, 6268 04:57:16,896 --> 04:57:18,423 and when he's hidden, the stunt guy 6269 04:57:18,448 --> 04:57:19,871 comes out the other end, 6270 04:57:19,896 --> 04:57:23,000 and we tried to make it as seamless as possible. 6271 04:57:24,241 --> 04:57:27,423 There was a moment that was cut from the script 6272 04:57:27,448 --> 04:57:29,837 that I really wish I had shot. 6273 04:57:29,862 --> 04:57:33,251 The scene that I had stolen from a Japanese movie 6274 04:57:33,275 --> 04:57:35,319 called "Vengeance is Mine". 6275 04:57:35,344 --> 04:57:38,217 Coming down the street was a patrol car, 6276 04:57:38,241 --> 04:57:40,044 and Judd looks down at his hands, 6277 04:57:40,067 --> 04:57:41,526 and there's blood on his hands, 6278 04:57:41,550 --> 04:57:44,388 so he goes in the bushes, and pees on his hands 6279 04:57:44,413 --> 04:57:46,033 to wash the blood off of them. 6280 04:57:47,862 --> 04:57:49,044 And I thought, wow. 6281 04:57:49,067 --> 04:57:51,217 That would really say a lot about a character. 6282 04:57:51,241 --> 04:57:52,457 It might have been a bit too much 6283 04:57:52,481 --> 04:57:54,241 for mainstream audience. 6284 04:57:58,000 --> 04:57:59,871 It's all right. 6285 04:57:59,896 --> 04:58:01,802 I had a great time with Judd Nelson. 6286 04:58:01,827 --> 04:58:03,354 Always joking around. 6287 04:58:03,379 --> 04:58:05,631 All the actors, all sweethearts. 6288 04:58:05,654 --> 04:58:08,079 It was a wonderful experience on that film. 6289 04:58:08,102 --> 04:58:09,562 Yo brothers, what's up? 6290 04:58:09,585 --> 04:58:10,975 I had no interference. 6291 04:58:11,000 --> 04:58:13,319 Everything that's in "Relentless" is mine, 6292 04:58:13,344 --> 04:58:14,975 for better or worse, it was the way 6293 04:58:15,000 --> 04:58:17,148 I made the film, and I'm quite proud of it. 6294 04:58:17,171 --> 04:58:18,596 I think it came out okay. 6295 04:58:18,619 --> 04:58:19,619 Please. 6296 04:58:20,827 --> 04:58:21,827 Don't hurt my son. 6297 04:58:23,723 --> 04:58:25,148 But it feels dated to me. 6298 04:58:25,171 --> 04:58:28,319 First is "Maniac Cop", which was made before that 6299 04:58:28,344 --> 04:58:30,009 doesn't feel dated to me. 6300 04:58:30,033 --> 04:58:31,413 Go figure. 6301 04:58:32,413 --> 04:58:33,413 Oh my god! 6302 04:58:43,654 --> 04:58:45,344 William Hickey as 6303 04:58:46,965 --> 04:58:48,734 "The Puppet Master". 6304 04:58:48,758 --> 04:58:52,837 One of my favorite franchises is "The Puppet Master". 6305 04:58:52,862 --> 04:58:55,423 And the first one was just so perfect to me. 6306 04:58:55,448 --> 04:58:57,457 And now they have 80 of them. 6307 04:58:57,481 --> 04:58:58,827 Every single one, I want. 6308 04:59:00,585 --> 04:59:03,631 It had Blade, Tunneler, Jester, 6309 04:59:03,654 --> 04:59:07,113 with his weird face stuff, and Leech Girl, 6310 04:59:07,136 --> 04:59:10,654 and lots, and lots, and lots of creepy ass puppets. 6311 04:59:12,033 --> 04:59:14,286 I have all those puppets as action figures. 6312 04:59:14,310 --> 04:59:16,562 They're some of my favorite collectibles to this day. 6313 04:59:16,585 --> 04:59:19,758 I just wanted to see the puppets fucking kill people. 6314 04:59:24,688 --> 04:59:28,182 You pair that with just this weird fucking story 6315 04:59:28,205 --> 04:59:31,802 about an undead dude who just wanted to get his, 6316 04:59:31,827 --> 04:59:35,734 gets his rivals together to kill them off one by one. 6317 04:59:35,758 --> 04:59:38,423 And using the old techniques of the old Puppet Master, 6318 04:59:38,448 --> 04:59:40,871 I brought myself back to life. 6319 04:59:40,896 --> 04:59:41,804 Why? 6320 04:59:41,828 --> 04:59:43,802 I want to live forever. 6321 04:59:43,827 --> 04:59:46,516 That is a piece of art that came to life as a movie. 6322 04:59:50,136 --> 04:59:51,871 Yeah, I'm a stop motion freak. 6323 04:59:51,896 --> 04:59:54,217 Dave Allen helped shape shift those characters 6324 04:59:54,241 --> 04:59:56,700 into what they are now, and gave them some 6325 04:59:56,723 --> 04:59:59,793 historical context, because it takes place in the 40s. 6326 05:00:01,136 --> 05:00:04,009 And next thing you know, we morph into a script, 6327 05:00:04,033 --> 05:00:06,723 and David Schmoeller did a great job with the script. 6328 05:00:12,241 --> 05:00:14,975 Charlie Band, he would give me a lot of creative freedom. 6329 05:00:15,000 --> 05:00:17,665 It's real easy to write these things. 6330 05:00:17,688 --> 05:00:19,837 You hope that this is gonna work. 6331 05:00:19,862 --> 05:00:21,354 It goes from effect to effect. 6332 05:00:21,379 --> 05:00:22,769 I mean, some of them work great, 6333 05:00:22,793 --> 05:00:25,619 and some of them are really stretches, you know. 6334 05:00:30,344 --> 05:00:31,802 You fucker! 6335 05:00:31,827 --> 05:00:33,596 I thought I could create magic, 6336 05:00:33,619 --> 05:00:36,585 and these really great things would happen. 6337 05:00:38,793 --> 05:00:40,319 These little dolls, they would find 6338 05:00:40,344 --> 05:00:44,906 all these sadistic ways to murder human beings. 6339 05:00:44,931 --> 05:00:48,700 It was diabolical. 6340 05:00:48,723 --> 05:00:51,526 Leech Woman, Lord she looks so cute 6341 05:00:51,550 --> 05:00:53,631 and pretty but then 6342 05:00:53,654 --> 05:00:55,802 and this nasty ass leech, 6343 05:00:55,827 --> 05:00:57,793 and it's just, no, why? 6344 05:01:01,619 --> 05:01:03,550 We actually used leeches. 6345 05:01:06,033 --> 05:01:08,734 The puppet with the tiniest little head, 6346 05:01:08,758 --> 05:01:13,000 and massive baby hands, just beating the crap out of people. 6347 05:01:16,102 --> 05:01:18,871 You're taking inanimate objects 6348 05:01:18,896 --> 05:01:21,585 and turning them into real things. 6349 05:01:28,758 --> 05:01:30,148 We would talk about it, and he would go off 6350 05:01:30,171 --> 05:01:33,631 and execute whatever I needed to have 6351 05:01:33,654 --> 05:01:35,457 these puppets doing. 6352 05:01:35,481 --> 05:01:37,113 There would always be some surprise 6353 05:01:37,136 --> 05:01:40,113 that was better than what we had talked about. 6354 05:01:40,136 --> 05:01:43,457 Low budget filmmaking is an art in itself. 6355 05:01:43,481 --> 05:01:45,148 It's such a crapshoot. 6356 05:01:45,171 --> 05:01:46,734 What's happening, Alice? 6357 05:01:46,758 --> 05:01:49,388 You're making movies for no money, 6358 05:01:49,413 --> 05:01:53,310 and then you're expecting a studio to pick it up. 6359 05:01:56,896 --> 05:01:59,079 The fact that Paramount released it 6360 05:01:59,102 --> 05:02:01,079 gave it a lot of cache. 6361 05:02:01,102 --> 05:02:04,009 Gave it a lot of credibility. 6362 05:02:04,033 --> 05:02:06,758 What the hell are you looking at? 6363 05:02:10,067 --> 05:02:12,802 The original idea of these characters 6364 05:02:12,827 --> 05:02:14,631 that all start off a little differently, 6365 05:02:14,654 --> 05:02:17,619 helped my business, my life, and my creativity. 6366 05:02:20,448 --> 05:02:22,148 We're about to shoot our 13th Puppet Master 6367 05:02:22,171 --> 05:02:23,827 32 years later. 6368 05:02:29,896 --> 05:02:31,631 "The Black Cat". 6369 05:02:31,654 --> 05:02:33,965 The last word in terror. 6370 05:02:36,344 --> 05:02:38,871 "The Black Cat", Luigi Cozzi, 6371 05:02:38,896 --> 05:02:42,550 or Lewis Coates, as he's known in America. 6372 05:02:43,758 --> 05:02:44,758 Black Cat, 1A, take one. 6373 05:02:45,688 --> 05:02:47,079 My lovely Luigi, who directed 6374 05:02:47,102 --> 05:02:50,700 and kind of created "Stellar Star Star Crash". 6375 05:02:50,723 --> 05:02:51,940 It was his baby. 6376 05:02:51,965 --> 05:02:54,319 He wanted to do this one for quite some time. 6377 05:02:54,344 --> 05:02:57,148 Well, we've already got the storyline blocked out, 6378 05:02:57,171 --> 05:02:58,700 but before we get down to writing the screenplay, 6379 05:02:58,723 --> 05:03:01,596 we'd like some pointers about reincarnation. 6380 05:03:01,619 --> 05:03:03,700 I read the script, and I thought yeah, it's interesting. 6381 05:03:03,723 --> 05:03:04,527 It's different. 6382 05:03:04,551 --> 05:03:06,044 Don't use that name. 6383 05:03:06,067 --> 05:03:07,319 Change it at once. 6384 05:03:07,344 --> 05:03:08,388 What name, Levana? 6385 05:03:08,413 --> 05:03:09,631 Yes. 6386 05:03:09,654 --> 05:03:11,205 Don't take the risk of summoning her. 6387 05:03:12,379 --> 05:03:14,871 Dario Argento had a hand in it. 6388 05:03:14,896 --> 05:03:18,319 Dario Argento directed it, "Suspiria", 6389 05:03:18,344 --> 05:03:20,837 and I must admit, it was very, very good. 6390 05:03:20,862 --> 05:03:23,044 Luigi worked very closely with Dario. 6391 05:03:23,067 --> 05:03:24,596 It was shot in Italy. 6392 05:03:24,619 --> 05:03:27,423 Not a lot of plot, but beautiful to look at. 6393 05:03:27,448 --> 05:03:29,940 Great performances from the actors. 6394 05:03:29,965 --> 05:03:31,182 They were all European. 6395 05:03:31,205 --> 05:03:33,665 I think I was the only English person in it. 6396 05:03:33,688 --> 05:03:37,148 We had a wonderful prince called Urbano Barberini 6397 05:03:37,171 --> 05:03:39,319 who was in it, and then you had Florence Guerin, 6398 05:03:39,344 --> 05:03:41,182 who was wonderful in the film. 6399 05:03:41,205 --> 05:03:42,758 She was fantastic. 6400 05:03:46,654 --> 05:03:49,182 You can never leave! 6401 05:03:49,205 --> 05:03:51,286 You'll never be Levana the witch! 6402 05:03:51,310 --> 05:03:52,492 Never, never! 6403 05:03:52,516 --> 05:03:56,000 She was an actress, I was an actress. 6404 05:03:59,000 --> 05:03:59,941 Cut. 6405 05:03:59,966 --> 05:04:01,388 Florence was the nice one. 6406 05:04:01,413 --> 05:04:04,044 I was just a bitch, I would say, really, basically. 6407 05:04:04,067 --> 05:04:05,286 Sorry. 6408 05:04:05,310 --> 05:04:06,723 So I have your permission to, uh, 6409 05:04:08,448 --> 05:04:09,619 put it to him? 6410 05:04:12,136 --> 05:04:12,941 But it was good character for me. 6411 05:04:12,966 --> 05:04:14,113 I liked it. 6412 05:04:14,136 --> 05:04:16,665 Quite dark, and she was all out for herself. 6413 05:04:16,688 --> 05:04:19,423 Everything was about her, really. 6414 05:04:19,448 --> 05:04:22,492 She was very jealous of Florence and the husband. 6415 05:04:22,516 --> 05:04:24,275 Why in god's name did you do it? 6416 05:04:25,862 --> 05:04:28,526 The same reason I took Mark away from you, Anne. 6417 05:04:28,550 --> 05:04:29,975 For Levana. 6418 05:04:30,000 --> 05:04:31,837 My character was capable of anything, really. 6419 05:04:31,862 --> 05:04:33,631 I liked that concept. 6420 05:04:33,654 --> 05:04:34,837 What is your command? 6421 05:04:34,862 --> 05:04:36,688 I ordered you to stop Anne. 6422 05:04:37,654 --> 05:04:39,526 It rolled along nicely. 6423 05:04:39,550 --> 05:04:41,251 Maybe not the best dialogue. 6424 05:04:41,275 --> 05:04:44,000 And you know what you must do with it. 6425 05:04:45,171 --> 05:04:47,079 The baby's in the other room. 6426 05:04:47,102 --> 05:04:48,492 Some of the scenes were quite heavy 6427 05:04:48,516 --> 05:04:49,700 with the special effects. 6428 05:04:49,723 --> 05:04:51,241 Very bloody. 6429 05:04:53,344 --> 05:04:54,827 It is a bit weird, isn't it? 6430 05:04:56,965 --> 05:04:58,423 They're quite gruesome effects. 6431 05:04:58,448 --> 05:05:01,000 Looking back on it, they were really, really good. 6432 05:05:13,171 --> 05:05:15,009 The Spanish title for "Grave Robbers" 6433 05:05:15,033 --> 05:05:16,862 is "Ladrones De Tumbas". 6434 05:05:18,585 --> 05:05:20,665 There's a lot of satanic rituals, 6435 05:05:20,688 --> 05:05:22,758 and a lot of killings. 6436 05:05:25,000 --> 05:05:28,769 A guy is persecuted by the Inquisition, 6437 05:05:28,793 --> 05:05:31,906 and he's tortured, and murdered, 6438 05:05:31,931 --> 05:05:35,000 and he promises to return for vengeance. 6439 05:05:43,000 --> 05:05:46,354 Our main characters, they go to the cemeteries, 6440 05:05:46,379 --> 05:05:49,044 dig up the graves, extract the bodies, 6441 05:05:49,067 --> 05:05:51,940 look for gold and valuable things, 6442 05:05:51,965 --> 05:05:54,827 and they sell them in the black market. 6443 05:05:56,723 --> 05:05:59,526 They go through a tunnel into the dungeons 6444 05:05:59,550 --> 05:06:01,102 of this old hacienda. 6445 05:06:03,310 --> 05:06:05,241 And strange things start happening. 6446 05:06:13,379 --> 05:06:15,319 By the time we shot "Grave Robbers", 6447 05:06:15,344 --> 05:06:18,562 I was a big expert in prosthetics 6448 05:06:18,585 --> 05:06:20,975 and special effects, cinematography. 6449 05:06:21,000 --> 05:06:22,654 I had learned a lot. 6450 05:06:25,827 --> 05:06:26,940 We didn't shoot it in English. 6451 05:06:26,965 --> 05:06:28,837 We shot it in Spanish. 6452 05:06:28,862 --> 05:06:30,906 We shot that film in Valle de Bravo. 6453 05:06:30,931 --> 05:06:33,734 It's about an hour and a half from Mexico City. 6454 05:06:33,758 --> 05:06:34,769 It's in the mountains. 6455 05:06:34,793 --> 05:06:36,965 There's woods all over. 6456 05:06:41,171 --> 05:06:43,688 One girl is kidnapped. 6457 05:06:45,102 --> 05:06:48,734 And the policemen go inside the dungeons, 6458 05:06:48,758 --> 05:06:52,182 and he finds his daughter tied up to the floor. 6459 05:06:52,205 --> 05:06:53,423 The demon walks in 6460 05:06:53,448 --> 05:06:56,067 and they engage in a fight. 6461 05:07:00,205 --> 05:07:02,769 When our hero comes in and saves the policeman 6462 05:07:02,793 --> 05:07:04,631 and saves the girl. 6463 05:07:04,654 --> 05:07:06,585 That's a memorable scene. 6464 05:07:10,344 --> 05:07:14,562 It had known actors for the domestic market. 6465 05:07:14,585 --> 05:07:16,940 It was aimed for the right target, 6466 05:07:16,965 --> 05:07:19,526 and it was a very big success in Mexico, 6467 05:07:19,550 --> 05:07:22,562 and then a big success when the video clubs 6468 05:07:22,585 --> 05:07:23,896 started renting it out. 6469 05:07:25,723 --> 05:07:26,906 No! 6470 05:07:26,931 --> 05:07:30,631 I wasn't aware how this film became 6471 05:07:30,654 --> 05:07:33,492 part of the cult 1980s horror films, 6472 05:07:33,516 --> 05:07:35,975 because my career has gone on. 6473 05:07:36,000 --> 05:07:38,562 I'm mostly known in Mexico for being 6474 05:07:38,585 --> 05:07:41,241 a reality show producer. 6475 05:07:42,448 --> 05:07:44,562 I'm proud of them because they were done 6476 05:07:44,585 --> 05:07:46,457 with no money, with no time, 6477 05:07:46,481 --> 05:07:48,688 with no technical resources. 6478 05:07:49,619 --> 05:07:51,562 I was in the process of learning 6479 05:07:51,585 --> 05:07:53,734 how to become a filmmaker. 6480 05:07:53,758 --> 05:07:56,793 We were just kids having fun. 6481 05:08:08,136 --> 05:08:11,148 I have no idea why people romanticize films 6482 05:08:11,171 --> 05:08:13,837 simply because they were made in the 80s. 6483 05:08:13,862 --> 05:08:15,079 Hi. 6484 05:08:15,102 --> 05:08:17,562 But because they were made in the 80s, 6485 05:08:17,585 --> 05:08:20,171 they develop a cult reputation. 6486 05:08:23,136 --> 05:08:25,769 I'm really thrilled that audiences now 6487 05:08:25,793 --> 05:08:27,457 really appreciate this stuff, 6488 05:08:27,481 --> 05:08:29,769 that back in the 80s, people were just like, 6489 05:08:29,793 --> 05:08:31,631 nah, you know, whatever. 6490 05:08:31,654 --> 05:08:33,871 Now there's a whole new renaissance, 6491 05:08:33,896 --> 05:08:36,596 if you will, and people are really getting into them, 6492 05:08:36,619 --> 05:08:38,388 and really loving them, and giving them 6493 05:08:38,413 --> 05:08:40,526 the kudos that they deserve. 6494 05:08:40,550 --> 05:08:42,526 They have a life today that's not the same 6495 05:08:42,550 --> 05:08:43,940 as their life in the 80s, 6496 05:08:43,965 --> 05:08:46,388 but let's get real about, you know 6497 05:08:46,413 --> 05:08:49,000 Orson Welles didn't make any of these films. 6498 05:08:50,379 --> 05:08:52,182 We need to reframe the way that we look 6499 05:08:52,205 --> 05:08:54,481 at good and bad movies. 6500 05:08:56,136 --> 05:08:57,906 Bad movies can be enjoyable. 6501 05:08:57,931 --> 05:08:59,700 You can find a different way to look at it. 6502 05:08:59,723 --> 05:09:02,033 I mean, no one's setting out to make a bad movie. 6503 05:09:05,275 --> 05:09:07,457 It doesn't really matter how great 6504 05:09:07,481 --> 05:09:09,596 or not great these movies were, 6505 05:09:09,619 --> 05:09:11,009 it's important to remember 6506 05:09:11,033 --> 05:09:14,837 how the cast, the crew, the producers, 6507 05:09:14,862 --> 05:09:17,596 the director, put all their love and energy 6508 05:09:17,619 --> 05:09:20,526 and money into these various films, 6509 05:09:20,550 --> 05:09:22,940 and really made them into something unique 6510 05:09:22,965 --> 05:09:24,862 that there was an audience for. 6511 05:09:26,241 --> 05:09:27,906 I think it's important for us to keep 6512 05:09:27,931 --> 05:09:29,975 these films in conversation. 6513 05:09:30,000 --> 05:09:31,492 Especially the ones that people think 6514 05:09:31,516 --> 05:09:34,526 maybe are not so great, because there's the obvious ones, 6515 05:09:34,550 --> 05:09:36,457 like "The Shining", "The Thing". 6516 05:09:36,481 --> 05:09:39,734 Those extend beyond horror audiences. 6517 05:09:39,758 --> 05:09:40,906 But then there's kind of like, 6518 05:09:40,931 --> 05:09:43,009 we have these in danger of being forgotten 6519 05:09:43,033 --> 05:09:45,492 or going extinct gems. 6520 05:09:45,516 --> 05:09:47,871 As we move from this media format 6521 05:09:47,896 --> 05:09:49,354 to this media format, 6522 05:09:49,379 --> 05:09:50,975 there's things that kind of get pushed to the wayside, 6523 05:09:51,000 --> 05:09:52,492 and we're leaving them behind. 6524 05:09:52,516 --> 05:09:54,217 Hide the body, and come back, 6525 05:09:54,241 --> 05:09:55,837 and clean up the blood. 6526 05:09:55,862 --> 05:09:58,492 People should champion anything that they enjoy, 6527 05:09:58,516 --> 05:10:01,102 because that's how you keep things alive. 6528 05:10:04,033 --> 05:10:05,217 Streaming is great. 6529 05:10:05,241 --> 05:10:07,802 I love that it makes things easily accessible 6530 05:10:07,827 --> 05:10:10,769 to the masses, but also it doesn't compare 6531 05:10:10,793 --> 05:10:13,700 to browsing and picking something up 6532 05:10:13,723 --> 05:10:16,044 and feeling it, smelling it, 6533 05:10:16,067 --> 05:10:17,388 holding it in your hands 6534 05:10:17,413 --> 05:10:19,585 is a special kind of experience. 6535 05:10:22,793 --> 05:10:26,182 Home video and cable meant that movies 6536 05:10:26,205 --> 05:10:29,700 didn't go away, and that meant that movies 6537 05:10:29,723 --> 05:10:32,113 found their audience. 6538 05:10:32,136 --> 05:10:33,769 And then word of mouth kicks in. 6539 05:10:33,793 --> 05:10:37,837 And to no small extent, creates horror fandom, 6540 05:10:37,862 --> 05:10:40,457 which has become this tidal wave 6541 05:10:40,481 --> 05:10:45,217 over the 30, 40 years since that technology arrived. 6542 05:10:45,241 --> 05:10:48,044 Of course it's not ideal to see a movie on tape 6543 05:10:48,067 --> 05:10:49,871 as opposed to seeing it on the big screen, 6544 05:10:49,896 --> 05:10:51,457 but as we see that the way that the world 6545 05:10:51,481 --> 05:10:54,769 has currently gone, many more people see movies 6546 05:10:54,793 --> 05:10:56,354 on their devices than they ever see 6547 05:10:56,379 --> 05:10:58,148 on a theater screen, and the trade off 6548 05:10:58,171 --> 05:11:00,251 is it isn't gonna be seen 6549 05:11:00,275 --> 05:11:01,700 by very many people in the theater. 6550 05:11:01,723 --> 05:11:03,413 It's mostly gonna be seen at home. 6551 05:11:04,550 --> 05:11:07,562 Today, there's a kind of casualness to it. 6552 05:11:07,585 --> 05:11:09,734 I'm still a child of the cinema. 6553 05:11:09,758 --> 05:11:12,769 I'm not crazy about people being introduced 6554 05:11:12,793 --> 05:11:14,136 to horror through digital. 6555 05:11:15,344 --> 05:11:17,009 The upside is that the screens are better, 6556 05:11:17,033 --> 05:11:18,906 they're bigger, the sound is better. 6557 05:11:18,931 --> 05:11:20,423 People are very serious about the way 6558 05:11:20,448 --> 05:11:21,734 they present their films, 6559 05:11:21,758 --> 05:11:24,217 and so it's a theater-like experience, 6560 05:11:24,241 --> 05:11:25,734 but it's not a theater experience, 6561 05:11:25,758 --> 05:11:27,526 because a theater experience is with a large 6562 05:11:27,550 --> 05:11:30,148 audience of people, who make the difference 6563 05:11:30,171 --> 05:11:32,862 between what you're watching, and what you're experiencing. 6564 05:11:34,136 --> 05:11:36,492 An experienced horror film with a big audience 6565 05:11:36,516 --> 05:11:39,079 that's enjoying it is completely different 6566 05:11:39,102 --> 05:11:42,526 and more fun experience than watching it 6567 05:11:42,550 --> 05:11:43,871 at home with two friends. 6568 05:11:43,896 --> 05:11:45,217 That's just night and day. 6569 05:11:45,241 --> 05:11:47,319 Part of the problem is our technology 6570 05:11:47,344 --> 05:11:48,769 is so magnificent now. 6571 05:11:48,793 --> 05:11:52,009 People think anything old is clunky. 6572 05:11:52,033 --> 05:11:53,769 This desire just to see the new, 6573 05:11:53,793 --> 05:11:56,251 the new, the new, the next, the next, the next, 6574 05:11:56,275 --> 05:11:59,044 sometimes prevents us from taking some time 6575 05:11:59,067 --> 05:12:01,009 out of our very busy lives 6576 05:12:01,033 --> 05:12:03,562 and realizing that there's some great stuff 6577 05:12:03,585 --> 05:12:05,275 from the past. 6578 05:12:08,136 --> 05:12:11,596 Maybe the movie itself isn't necessarily great, 6579 05:12:11,619 --> 05:12:13,665 but it's the experience of watching it 6580 05:12:13,688 --> 05:12:15,596 that makes it great, and then 20 years later, 6581 05:12:15,619 --> 05:12:18,182 you're telling people, no you have to watch "Motel Hell". 6582 05:12:18,205 --> 05:12:20,481 This is one of the greatest movies ever made. 6583 05:12:23,448 --> 05:12:24,940 They hold it near and dear to their heart 6584 05:12:24,965 --> 05:12:27,906 because they've seen it with their father who's passed, 6585 05:12:27,931 --> 05:12:30,286 or cousin made them watch it to scare them, 6586 05:12:30,310 --> 05:12:31,975 or whatever, however they saw it. 6587 05:12:32,000 --> 05:12:34,000 It holds good memories for people. 6588 05:12:35,654 --> 05:12:37,079 Horror is personal. 6589 05:12:37,102 --> 05:12:40,044 We can all agree on a good horror film. 6590 05:12:40,067 --> 05:12:41,423 It's like, ah "Psycho". 6591 05:12:41,448 --> 05:12:44,148 But nobody's defending "Psycho" to the death. 6592 05:12:44,171 --> 05:12:47,217 I think we have it all wrong when we talk about horror. 6593 05:12:47,241 --> 05:12:49,906 We're like, this is good, or this is bad. 6594 05:12:49,931 --> 05:12:51,423 No. 6595 05:12:51,448 --> 05:12:53,802 Something is entertaining or it's not entertaining, 6596 05:12:53,827 --> 05:12:57,079 and by putting everything on a good and bad dichotomy, 6597 05:12:57,102 --> 05:12:59,182 we ruin our experience of being able 6598 05:12:59,205 --> 05:13:03,044 to talk about a movie, like "Sleepaway Camp II", 6599 05:13:03,067 --> 05:13:05,044 that's just like a fucking good time. 6600 05:13:05,067 --> 05:13:07,354 "Sleepaway Camp II" doesn't have to be high art, 6601 05:13:07,379 --> 05:13:09,217 to be a social satire. 6602 05:13:09,241 --> 05:13:12,079 Howdy partner! 6603 05:13:12,102 --> 05:13:13,286 I actually think that you can find 6604 05:13:13,310 --> 05:13:14,906 more in our culture and history 6605 05:13:14,931 --> 05:13:16,906 and even just social context 6606 05:13:16,931 --> 05:13:19,217 in films that are labeled trash. 6607 05:13:19,241 --> 05:13:21,079 There's more there to actually pick from, 6608 05:13:21,102 --> 05:13:24,044 and shine a light on who we were as people. 6609 05:13:24,067 --> 05:13:25,562 Like, a popcorn film? 6610 05:13:25,585 --> 05:13:29,723 That's loaded with identity, and society, and culture. 6611 05:13:31,171 --> 05:13:33,354 I'm way more interested in the history I'm gonna get 6612 05:13:33,379 --> 05:13:35,388 from a movie that people cast aside 6613 05:13:35,413 --> 05:13:36,665 than the history I'm gonna get 6614 05:13:36,688 --> 05:13:38,965 and what I learn in a film school class. 6615 05:13:41,619 --> 05:13:46,286 Let's not get insanely academic about these films. 6616 05:13:46,310 --> 05:13:48,354 The people who watch these movies in the 80s 6617 05:13:48,379 --> 05:13:50,734 weren't watching them from an ironic point of view. 6618 05:13:50,758 --> 05:13:53,182 They were watching them because they enjoyed the mayhem. 6619 05:13:53,205 --> 05:13:55,665 The people who watch those same movies today 6620 05:13:55,688 --> 05:13:58,182 are watching them from an academic standpoint, 6621 05:13:58,205 --> 05:14:01,388 as though they're analyzing every little detail 6622 05:14:01,413 --> 05:14:02,457 of the film. 6623 05:14:02,481 --> 05:14:03,975 These films were made by guys 6624 05:14:04,000 --> 05:14:06,217 who wanted to make a fast buck. 6625 05:14:06,241 --> 05:14:07,975 These films were made for money. 6626 05:14:08,000 --> 05:14:11,182 They were not concerned with trying to impress anybody. 6627 05:14:11,205 --> 05:14:15,009 They were concerned with the largest audience possible. 6628 05:14:15,033 --> 05:14:17,516 They were filmmakers, but they were also businessmen. 6629 05:14:19,896 --> 05:14:22,896 These aren't big extravagant productions. 6630 05:14:26,205 --> 05:14:28,009 You crazy bastard. 6631 05:14:28,033 --> 05:14:30,079 Horror lets you be creative. 6632 05:14:30,102 --> 05:14:31,802 You can go outside the box. 6633 05:14:31,827 --> 05:14:33,596 You can go outside the scope. 6634 05:14:33,619 --> 05:14:36,079 Horror, it can look cheesy and bad, 6635 05:14:36,102 --> 05:14:37,481 and it's fun. 6636 05:14:40,654 --> 05:14:43,354 We love to be scared, 6637 05:14:43,379 --> 05:14:47,275 and we love to think we're in peril. 6638 05:14:48,793 --> 05:14:53,793 And we love to be at odds with each other. 6639 05:14:54,965 --> 05:14:58,802 Movies are so powerful, because it reminds us 6640 05:14:58,827 --> 05:15:01,734 of a simpler, more innocent time. 6641 05:15:01,758 --> 05:15:03,665 And that's where we all want to be. 6642 05:15:03,688 --> 05:15:06,113 God knows in this day and age. 6643 05:15:06,136 --> 05:15:07,827 That's where we all want to be. 6644 05:16:38,448 --> 05:16:40,700 So, before watching "In Search of Darkness", 6645 05:16:40,723 --> 05:16:41,940 I was definitely one of those guys 6646 05:16:41,965 --> 05:16:44,182 who was like, yeah man, I know 80s horror. 6647 05:16:44,205 --> 05:16:46,079 Freddie and Jason! 6648 05:16:46,102 --> 05:16:47,940 Sweet! 6649 05:16:47,965 --> 05:16:49,631 And then I watched "In Search of Darkness", 6650 05:16:49,654 --> 05:16:52,079 and I realized, you naive bastard, 6651 05:16:52,102 --> 05:16:54,940 you know nothing about 80s horror. 6652 05:16:54,965 --> 05:16:57,113 So now I actually know things, 6653 05:16:57,136 --> 05:16:59,251 and like, how had I lived my life 6654 05:16:59,275 --> 05:17:01,251 and missed "Sleepaway Camp"? 6655 05:17:01,275 --> 05:17:03,113 That is a fantastic movie. 6656 05:17:03,136 --> 05:17:05,758 So thank you for awakening me. 6657 05:17:08,619 --> 05:17:10,286 80s horror is very important to me 6658 05:17:10,310 --> 05:17:12,251 as I grew up in the early 80s, 6659 05:17:12,275 --> 05:17:13,940 and horror was embedded in our culture. 6660 05:17:13,965 --> 05:17:15,734 It was in our toys, in our cartoons. 6661 05:17:15,758 --> 05:17:16,906 It was everywhere. 6662 05:17:16,931 --> 05:17:18,940 We used to draw monsters in art class, 6663 05:17:18,965 --> 05:17:20,009 like the Monster Squad, 6664 05:17:20,033 --> 05:17:21,423 and that was acceptable back then. 6665 05:17:21,448 --> 05:17:23,526 You wouldn't get locked up for stuff like that. 6666 05:17:23,550 --> 05:17:25,388 I miss going into a video store 6667 05:17:25,413 --> 05:17:27,665 and grabbing a random VHS 6668 05:17:27,688 --> 05:17:29,217 and saying hey, this box art, it looks good. 6669 05:17:29,241 --> 05:17:30,975 Is it a curse, or is it great? 6670 05:17:31,000 --> 05:17:32,319 You never know. 6671 05:17:32,344 --> 05:17:33,596 And you watch it with your friends 6672 05:17:33,619 --> 05:17:34,975 in the middle of the night, enjoying it, 6673 05:17:35,000 --> 05:17:37,102 and it brings you back to a simpler time. 6674 05:17:40,550 --> 05:17:41,802 80s horror is so important to me 6675 05:17:41,827 --> 05:17:43,665 because it's an escape from reality. 6676 05:17:43,688 --> 05:17:45,492 Takes me back to a simpler time. 6677 05:17:45,516 --> 05:17:46,906 Gives me that nostalgia. 6678 05:17:46,931 --> 05:17:48,388 And these documentaries, 6679 05:17:48,413 --> 05:17:50,526 they help nail the fact home 6680 05:17:50,550 --> 05:17:52,975 that horror can be a cathartic way 6681 05:17:53,000 --> 05:17:55,423 to deal with fear and all the BS this world 6682 05:17:55,448 --> 05:17:56,665 has to throw at us. 6683 05:17:56,688 --> 05:17:58,526 80s horror, and all horror in general, 6684 05:17:58,550 --> 05:17:59,769 and I love that. 6685 05:17:59,793 --> 05:18:01,562 These documentaries are amazing for that. 6686 05:18:01,585 --> 05:18:02,700 Favorite movie of all time? 6687 05:18:02,723 --> 05:18:04,940 "Silver Bullet", 1985. 6688 05:18:04,965 --> 05:18:07,734 It is incredible. 6689 05:18:07,758 --> 05:18:08,758 Rock on. 6690 05:18:11,793 --> 05:18:12,975 Hey. 6691 05:18:13,000 --> 05:18:14,871 I just wanted to say thank you so, so much 6692 05:18:14,896 --> 05:18:17,906 to everybody involved with "In Search of Darkness". 6693 05:18:17,931 --> 05:18:19,802 It's been absolutely fantastic. 6694 05:18:19,827 --> 05:18:21,319 I've really, really enjoyed. 6695 05:18:21,344 --> 05:18:23,906 It's flooded back memories of going down 6696 05:18:23,931 --> 05:18:26,009 the video shop, the video store, 6697 05:18:26,033 --> 05:18:28,871 in the 80s, looking at the best horror films 6698 05:18:28,896 --> 05:18:30,217 that were released. 6699 05:18:30,241 --> 05:18:31,423 Absolutely fantastic. 6700 05:18:31,448 --> 05:18:33,044 And it's also introduced me 6701 05:18:33,067 --> 05:18:35,871 to some of the classics that I missed, 6702 05:18:35,896 --> 05:18:38,448 down the video shop, going back all those years. 6703 05:18:42,827 --> 05:18:45,423 80s horror happened to coincide 6704 05:18:45,448 --> 05:18:48,769 with the VHS era, and in my opinion, 6705 05:18:48,793 --> 05:18:50,596 the 80s horror was the prime attraction 6706 05:18:50,619 --> 05:18:51,975 of the VHS. 6707 05:18:52,000 --> 05:18:53,457 I mean, look at that. 6708 05:18:53,481 --> 05:18:56,033 How could you walk by that and not want to rent it? 6709 05:18:59,413 --> 05:19:00,665 Oh, hi. 6710 05:19:00,688 --> 05:19:01,906 I'm AJ Danna. 6711 05:19:01,931 --> 05:19:04,492 I played Tapehead at "Slashback Video". 6712 05:19:04,516 --> 05:19:06,113 The "In Search of Darkness" trilogy 6713 05:19:06,136 --> 05:19:08,526 has meant so much to dust off these old 6714 05:19:08,550 --> 05:19:11,526 classic horror tapes, and make sure each and every 6715 05:19:11,550 --> 05:19:15,319 actor and filmmaker involved in these movie making gems 6716 05:19:15,344 --> 05:19:17,526 did not pour their blood, sweat, and tears 6717 05:19:17,550 --> 05:19:20,000 into movies in vain. 6718 05:19:21,067 --> 05:19:22,241 So anyways, thanks. 6719 05:19:25,550 --> 05:19:27,423 I decided to back the "In Search of Darkness" series 6720 05:19:27,448 --> 05:19:29,906 for the tireless people behind Creator BC, 6721 05:19:29,931 --> 05:19:31,975 because you learn something interesting and significant 6722 05:19:32,000 --> 05:19:34,044 about the films from the people who worked on the films 6723 05:19:34,067 --> 05:19:36,067 that you can't find anywhere else. 6724 05:19:38,448 --> 05:19:40,734 To me, horror movies were a safe haven 6725 05:19:40,758 --> 05:19:41,975 growing up in the 80s. 6726 05:19:42,000 --> 05:19:44,423 I spent so many hours in the video store 6727 05:19:44,448 --> 05:19:46,665 browsing for titles to watch. 6728 05:19:46,688 --> 05:19:49,492 When "In Search of Darkness: Part One" ended, 6729 05:19:49,516 --> 05:19:52,492 the covers shown up with a key, 6730 05:19:52,516 --> 05:19:56,286 and a dark room, the TV, the characters. 6731 05:19:56,310 --> 05:19:59,000 It was like I was that same boy. 6732 05:20:00,171 --> 05:20:03,388 This documentary has been a door to go back 6733 05:20:03,413 --> 05:20:04,723 and complete that journey. 6734 05:20:07,067 --> 05:20:08,769 80s horror movies are important to me 6735 05:20:08,793 --> 05:20:10,492 because I was raised the right way, 6736 05:20:10,516 --> 05:20:11,734 and grew up watching them 6737 05:20:11,758 --> 05:20:13,319 ever since I was a wee little one, 6738 05:20:13,344 --> 05:20:15,182 despite not growing up in that generation. 6739 05:20:15,205 --> 05:20:17,354 But it was cool people from that generation 6740 05:20:17,379 --> 05:20:19,079 who showed me those movies, and gave us 6741 05:20:19,102 --> 05:20:20,388 something to bond over. 6742 05:20:20,413 --> 05:20:22,354 But my favorite horror movie has to be 6743 05:20:22,379 --> 05:20:23,596 John Carpenter's "The Thing". 6744 05:20:23,619 --> 05:20:25,769 The most amazing practical effects 6745 05:20:25,793 --> 05:20:27,769 to the gore, and of course starring 6746 05:20:27,793 --> 05:20:30,596 the absolute hunks Kurt Russel and Keith David, 6747 05:20:30,619 --> 05:20:31,975 what is there not to love? 6748 05:20:32,000 --> 05:20:33,388 So 80s horror rules, 6749 05:20:33,413 --> 05:20:35,009 and thanks to "In Search of Darkness" 6750 05:20:35,033 --> 05:20:36,379 for bringing it all back. 6751 05:20:38,516 --> 05:20:42,423 You know, growing up as a kid with not many friends, 6752 05:20:42,448 --> 05:20:44,965 actually I had none until I was 10. 6753 05:20:46,344 --> 05:20:49,286 Single father, worked nights, and slept all day. 6754 05:20:49,310 --> 05:20:51,769 Horror movies were my go-to, 6755 05:20:51,793 --> 05:20:54,251 and the monsters were my friends, 6756 05:20:54,275 --> 05:20:56,079 and it was just awesome. 6757 05:20:56,102 --> 05:20:59,044 With the "In Search of Darkness" trilogy, 6758 05:20:59,067 --> 05:21:02,457 I got to relive that past as a child, 6759 05:21:02,481 --> 05:21:06,344 and it just, it's perfect. 6760 05:21:11,171 --> 05:21:12,251 80s horror was the best. 6761 05:21:12,275 --> 05:21:13,562 It was imagination. 6762 05:21:13,585 --> 05:21:14,802 It was entertainment. 6763 05:21:14,827 --> 05:21:16,802 It was fun, it was gory, it was crazy, 6764 05:21:16,827 --> 05:21:17,632 it was the best. 6765 05:21:17,655 --> 05:21:19,067 80 horror rules! 6766 05:21:22,000 --> 05:21:24,148 I'm Matt Weinhold, and I love 80s horror 6767 05:21:24,171 --> 05:21:27,217 because it's scary, sexy, innovative, 6768 05:21:27,241 --> 05:21:30,837 indecent, unapologetic, and fun! 6769 05:21:30,862 --> 05:21:33,067 It's the punk rock of horror! 6770 05:21:39,688 --> 05:21:42,044 Having been a teenager in the 1980s, 6771 05:21:42,067 --> 05:21:44,700 I was able to experience most of these films 6772 05:21:44,723 --> 05:21:46,388 in a theatrical setting. 6773 05:21:46,413 --> 05:21:49,423 The 80s gave us the best of John Landis, 6774 05:21:49,448 --> 05:21:52,354 and John Carpenter, and David Cronenberg, 6775 05:21:52,379 --> 05:21:54,596 and we got to see the birth of franchises 6776 05:21:54,619 --> 05:21:56,871 of "Friday the 13th" and "Nightmare on Elm Street", 6777 05:21:56,896 --> 05:21:58,802 and "Poltergeist", "Evil Dead", 6778 05:21:58,827 --> 05:22:01,286 and what "In Search of Darkness" has allowed me to do 6779 05:22:01,310 --> 05:22:04,802 is revisit those memories, and love these films 6780 05:22:04,827 --> 05:22:05,862 all over again. 6781 05:22:08,793 --> 05:22:12,079 In the 1980s, we gazed into the abyss, 6782 05:22:12,102 --> 05:22:13,596 and we smiled, 6783 05:22:13,619 --> 05:22:16,665 because it was filled with visceral practical effects, 6784 05:22:16,688 --> 05:22:19,562 intrepid heroes, garish demons, 6785 05:22:19,585 --> 05:22:22,354 and synth-laden nightmare schemes. 6786 05:22:22,379 --> 05:22:24,217 Thanks to "In Search of Darkness", 6787 05:22:24,241 --> 05:22:28,379 the abyss can finally gaze back at us, and smile. 6788 05:22:32,827 --> 05:22:34,286 My love of 80s horror films 6789 05:22:34,310 --> 05:22:36,700 started back when I was 11 years old. 6790 05:22:36,723 --> 05:22:38,423 I stayed up one night and watched "A Nightmare" 6791 05:22:38,448 --> 05:22:40,148 "on Elm Street" with my mum. 6792 05:22:40,171 --> 05:22:41,940 Halfway through the film, I got so scared 6793 05:22:41,965 --> 05:22:45,044 that I went up to bed, and five minutes later, 6794 05:22:45,067 --> 05:22:46,596 I was back downstairs watching the rest 6795 05:22:46,619 --> 05:22:48,079 of the film with her. 6796 05:22:48,102 --> 05:22:50,827 That's where it started, and it's never stopped since. 6797 05:22:53,481 --> 05:22:56,319 Watching "In Search of Darkness" documentaries 6798 05:22:56,344 --> 05:22:59,413 takes me back to the best part of my childhood, 6799 05:23:00,862 --> 05:23:04,700 and also knowing that I'm watching these documentaries 6800 05:23:04,723 --> 05:23:07,286 with a community of people 6801 05:23:07,310 --> 05:23:10,769 that also share my love of 80s horror, 6802 05:23:10,793 --> 05:23:12,758 it is the best feeling. 6803 05:23:15,136 --> 05:23:19,700 The immense popularity of these movies 6804 05:23:19,723 --> 05:23:22,837 showed so many of us that we were part 6805 05:23:22,862 --> 05:23:27,700 of a global community, and so in a way, 6806 05:23:27,723 --> 05:23:29,871 the darkness became a place of comfort, 6807 05:23:29,896 --> 05:23:33,723 because we knew we weren't alone. 6808 05:23:36,171 --> 05:23:39,423 In a sense, it's more like it's our story, 6809 05:23:39,448 --> 05:23:41,286 and what these movies mean to us, 6810 05:23:41,310 --> 05:23:43,931 and I can't thank these documentaries enough for that. 6811 05:23:46,379 --> 05:23:48,665 Everything about it is so beautiful. 6812 05:23:48,688 --> 05:23:51,113 It's one of the best times of horror 6813 05:23:51,136 --> 05:23:54,310 and it makes me feel better about me and myself. 6814 05:23:58,862 --> 05:24:01,113 There's something for everyone in there, 6815 05:24:01,136 --> 05:24:04,388 whether you like slashers, comedies, 6816 05:24:04,413 --> 05:24:07,769 my personal favorite horror movie from the 1980s 6817 05:24:07,793 --> 05:24:09,700 is "Killer Klowns from Outer Space". 6818 05:24:09,723 --> 05:24:11,286 I saw that movie the first time 6819 05:24:11,310 --> 05:24:14,975 when I was maybe 10 years old, 6820 05:24:15,000 --> 05:24:17,596 and that's one of the movies that made me 6821 05:24:17,619 --> 05:24:20,182 fall in love with horror, and the reason I'm as big 6822 05:24:20,205 --> 05:24:22,067 of a horror fan as I am today. 6823 05:24:24,896 --> 05:24:26,975 When I wanted to get into horror, 6824 05:24:27,000 --> 05:24:30,217 and I was too scared to watch it by myself, 6825 05:24:30,241 --> 05:24:33,354 my friends would sit with me in my dark basement, 6826 05:24:33,379 --> 05:24:36,906 and we would watch 80s horror movies together. 6827 05:24:36,931 --> 05:24:39,009 And we started with the classics, 6828 05:24:39,033 --> 05:24:42,975 and slowly moved our way out to totally obscure titles, 6829 05:24:43,000 --> 05:24:47,769 but for me, those were really special times in my life. 6830 05:24:47,793 --> 05:24:50,596 And it really made horror, especially 80s horror, 6831 05:24:50,619 --> 05:24:53,619 something that brought people together in my life. 6832 05:24:56,241 --> 05:24:58,940 80s horror movies really had a style of their own 6833 05:24:58,965 --> 05:25:00,562 that make this particular decade of work 6834 05:25:00,585 --> 05:25:02,975 always so unique to look back on. 6835 05:25:03,000 --> 05:25:05,009 It was also a decade where it felt like special effects 6836 05:25:05,033 --> 05:25:07,596 were perfected in such a way, you could almost smell them 6837 05:25:07,619 --> 05:25:10,251 through your screen, something like "The Thing", 6838 05:25:10,275 --> 05:25:12,009 and speaking of "The Thing", you could have 6839 05:25:12,033 --> 05:25:14,319 hard horror subject like that, 6840 05:25:14,344 --> 05:25:16,354 but you could have also sillier stuff like "Vamp", 6841 05:25:16,379 --> 05:25:18,665 which makes this particular decade always so fun 6842 05:25:18,688 --> 05:25:21,148 to go back and discover new gems, 6843 05:25:21,171 --> 05:25:23,457 and I really am glad that these documentaries exist 6844 05:25:23,481 --> 05:25:24,931 to highlight all of that. 6845 05:25:27,275 --> 05:25:30,665 Best thing about 80s horror were the comedy movies, 6846 05:25:30,688 --> 05:25:33,837 like "The Burbs", and "Gremlins 2", 6847 05:25:33,862 --> 05:25:35,837 "House", "House 2", the "Ghostbusters", 6848 05:25:35,862 --> 05:25:37,975 all those movies made it so much easier 6849 05:25:38,000 --> 05:25:40,802 as a kid to then turn around and be able to watch 6850 05:25:40,827 --> 05:25:43,251 movies with this scary bastard in it, 6851 05:25:43,275 --> 05:25:45,619 and scare the shit out of you when you're a little kid. 6852 05:25:47,688 --> 05:25:49,492 John Carpenter, Wes Craven, Tobe Hooper, 6853 05:25:49,516 --> 05:25:51,837 Tom Holland, Peter Jackson, Sam Raimi, 6854 05:25:51,862 --> 05:25:53,562 Stewart Gordon, Don Coscarelli. 6855 05:25:53,585 --> 05:25:55,526 I just need an indestructible boogeyman 6856 05:25:55,550 --> 05:25:57,526 carving up annoying teenagers. 6857 05:25:57,550 --> 05:25:58,802 I don't need to know how or why. 6858 05:25:58,827 --> 05:26:00,319 It just has to show up every few years, 6859 05:26:00,344 --> 05:26:02,113 and do it again in creative ways. 6860 05:26:02,136 --> 05:26:03,975 Give me a monster with sharp teeth, 6861 05:26:04,000 --> 05:26:05,286 and gooey tentacles. 6862 05:26:05,310 --> 05:26:06,940 What I don't want is found footage, 6863 05:26:06,965 --> 05:26:08,596 and shaky cam and possessed dolls, 6864 05:26:08,619 --> 05:26:11,286 and cheesy ghosts, and spare me all the CGI blood. 6865 05:26:11,310 --> 05:26:13,388 I want Tom Savini, Screaming Mad George. 6866 05:26:13,413 --> 05:26:15,550 I want a Kurtzman Nicotero hamburger. 6867 05:26:19,102 --> 05:26:19,907 Hey guys. 6868 05:26:19,932 --> 05:26:21,319 My name is Jason. 6869 05:26:21,344 --> 05:26:22,700 And no surprise, my favorite horror franchise 6870 05:26:22,723 --> 05:26:24,802 of all time is "Friday the 13th". 6871 05:26:24,827 --> 05:26:27,388 I did a book report on Part 3 in grade six. 6872 05:26:27,413 --> 05:26:29,596 Yes, I was in grade six watching these movies, 6873 05:26:29,619 --> 05:26:31,136 and I absolutely loved them. 6874 05:26:32,688 --> 05:26:35,492 I think the 80s is absolutely the greatest decade 6875 05:26:35,516 --> 05:26:37,906 of horror films, and I grew up in the 90s. 6876 05:26:37,931 --> 05:26:40,044 There were so many great horror films made back then. 6877 05:26:40,067 --> 05:26:42,665 I can't even decide which one's my favorite. 6878 05:26:42,688 --> 05:26:44,526 I also think "In Search of Darkness" is the greatest 6879 05:26:44,550 --> 05:26:46,700 documentary ever made. 6880 05:26:46,723 --> 05:26:48,113 It introduced me to several horror films 6881 05:26:48,136 --> 05:26:50,457 I had never heard of, including "Sleepaway Camp", 6882 05:26:50,481 --> 05:26:52,044 "Fade to Black", "Motel Hell", 6883 05:26:52,067 --> 05:26:53,286 "American Werewolf in London", 6884 05:26:53,310 --> 05:26:55,700 "Society", "Scanners", "The Changeling", 6885 05:26:55,723 --> 05:26:57,975 "The Ghost Story", and so many more. 6886 05:26:58,000 --> 05:26:59,286 I don't think there will ever be anything 6887 05:26:59,310 --> 05:27:01,171 like 80s horror ever again 6888 05:27:03,481 --> 05:27:04,975 Hello, everyone. 6889 05:27:05,000 --> 05:27:07,009 What I've enjoyed most about the "In Search of Darkness" 6890 05:27:07,033 --> 05:27:09,388 documentary series would have to be 6891 05:27:09,413 --> 05:27:12,388 the behind the scenes information about the movies 6892 05:27:12,413 --> 05:27:16,975 I know and love, but also, and probably more importantly, 6893 05:27:17,000 --> 05:27:19,631 the vast amount of hidden gems 6894 05:27:19,654 --> 05:27:21,319 it has introduced me to. 6895 05:27:21,344 --> 05:27:24,354 It is mind-blowing how many entertaining horror movies 6896 05:27:24,379 --> 05:27:25,940 there are from that decade. 6897 05:27:25,965 --> 05:27:26,965 So thank you. 6898 05:27:28,723 --> 05:27:30,251 One of my favorite 1980s horror movies 6899 05:27:30,275 --> 05:27:32,113 would have to be "Night of the Demons". 6900 05:27:32,136 --> 05:27:33,802 Reason being, I was pretty young 6901 05:27:33,827 --> 05:27:35,148 when the movie first came out. 6902 05:27:35,171 --> 05:27:36,734 My older sister introduced me to the film 6903 05:27:36,758 --> 05:27:38,286 because she wanted to scare me. 6904 05:27:38,310 --> 05:27:39,769 It scared me pretty good. 6905 05:27:39,793 --> 05:27:41,769 I remember having a hard time going to sleep that night, 6906 05:27:41,793 --> 05:27:44,000 scared that the monster was gonna get me. 6907 05:27:45,448 --> 05:27:48,044 So I have a lot of nostalgic feelings about the movie. 6908 05:27:48,067 --> 05:27:49,550 That's why I like it so much. 6909 05:27:51,723 --> 05:27:54,975 My first and absolute favorite 80s horror movie 6910 05:27:55,000 --> 05:27:56,665 is "American Werewolf in London" 6911 05:27:56,688 --> 05:27:58,526 by John Landis. 6912 05:27:58,550 --> 05:28:01,562 Watching that movie sent me down a rabbit hole 6913 05:28:01,585 --> 05:28:04,631 of 80s horror movies that I'd never seen before, 6914 05:28:04,654 --> 05:28:06,457 and through that movie, I got introduced 6915 05:28:06,481 --> 05:28:08,136 to "In Search of Darkness", 6916 05:28:09,550 --> 05:28:12,354 and ever since, things have never been the same, 6917 05:28:12,379 --> 05:28:14,631 and it's been an amazing journey. 6918 05:28:14,654 --> 05:28:15,862 I thank you for it. 6919 05:28:18,654 --> 05:28:21,182 80s horror is incredibly important to me. 6920 05:28:21,205 --> 05:28:23,182 Horror slashed its way into my life 6921 05:28:23,205 --> 05:28:24,423 when I was a kid. 6922 05:28:24,448 --> 05:28:26,354 Myself and my buddies would stay up all night 6923 05:28:26,379 --> 05:28:28,526 watching horror movies, from horror icons 6924 05:28:28,550 --> 05:28:30,526 like Freddie, to "Killer Klowns from Outer Space". 6925 05:28:30,550 --> 05:28:32,526 The greatest times of my life 6926 05:28:32,550 --> 05:28:33,975 is due to the horror genre. 6927 05:28:34,000 --> 05:28:36,665 80s horror strapped me into my adult life 6928 05:28:36,688 --> 05:28:39,251 where I now collect 80s horror memorabilia, 6929 05:28:39,275 --> 05:28:41,526 plus I'm always on the hunt for 80s horror 6930 05:28:41,550 --> 05:28:42,975 that I'm yet to discover. 6931 05:28:43,000 --> 05:28:45,388 I have an insatiable thirst for blood in film. 6932 05:28:45,413 --> 05:28:47,113 Tom Savini's work in the genre 6933 05:28:47,136 --> 05:28:48,802 has my jaw dropped to the floor. 6934 05:28:48,827 --> 05:28:50,975 The realism of his work is something 6935 05:28:51,000 --> 05:28:53,423 that's gonna be admired long after I'm gone. 6936 05:28:53,448 --> 05:28:56,423 For me, he sets the bar for practical effects within horror. 6937 05:28:56,448 --> 05:28:58,286 I love "In Search of Darkness", as it's 6938 05:28:58,310 --> 05:29:01,113 a time capsule of horror, for us, the fans. 6939 05:29:01,136 --> 05:29:03,562 "In Search of Darkness" is also a love letter 6940 05:29:03,585 --> 05:29:05,388 to everyone that holds a special place 6941 05:29:05,413 --> 05:29:06,723 in their heart for horror. 6942 05:29:08,448 --> 05:29:10,837 I love how they use all practical effects, 6943 05:29:10,862 --> 05:29:13,113 for these, all the blood and guts, 6944 05:29:13,136 --> 05:29:15,526 all the rubber monsters that they used, 6945 05:29:15,550 --> 05:29:17,802 all the costume work is all hand made, 6946 05:29:17,827 --> 05:29:19,526 and all practically done. 6947 05:29:19,550 --> 05:29:21,136 It makes it look great. 6948 05:29:23,171 --> 05:29:26,044 The 80s was an era of DIY. 6949 05:29:26,067 --> 05:29:28,079 If you didn't have a passion for your craft, 6950 05:29:28,102 --> 05:29:31,009 or you didn't want your story to be told, 6951 05:29:31,033 --> 05:29:33,837 it simply wouldn't make it out there. 6952 05:29:33,862 --> 05:29:36,009 This is what showed in the films growing up, 6953 05:29:36,033 --> 05:29:37,802 which was hard. 6954 05:29:37,827 --> 05:29:40,354 It's difficult to articulate this feeling. 6955 05:29:40,379 --> 05:29:42,769 However, every fan or person contributing 6956 05:29:42,793 --> 05:29:46,079 to this series, will have moments which resonated 6957 05:29:46,102 --> 05:29:48,688 and impacted into their adult life. 6958 05:29:51,550 --> 05:29:53,113 What I love most about the 80s, 6959 05:29:53,136 --> 05:29:55,388 especially 80s horror movies, 6960 05:29:55,413 --> 05:29:58,113 is just how ridiculous the concepts are, 6961 05:29:58,136 --> 05:30:00,793 and just how well they're executed. 6962 05:30:02,758 --> 05:30:05,975 "In Search of Darkness" meant a lot to me 6963 05:30:06,000 --> 05:30:09,388 because it introduced me to a whole field, 6964 05:30:09,413 --> 05:30:11,079 a whole group of people, 6965 05:30:11,102 --> 05:30:14,562 that are so dedicated, and so motivated, 6966 05:30:14,585 --> 05:30:17,700 on trying to find a lot of 80s horror films 6967 05:30:17,723 --> 05:30:20,906 that not a lot of younger horror film fans even heard of. 6968 05:30:20,931 --> 05:30:23,182 Sometimes y'all have heard of "Halloween" 6969 05:30:23,205 --> 05:30:26,079 or "Friday the 13th", or "Nightmare on Elm Street", 6970 05:30:26,102 --> 05:30:27,975 but it's these small classic films 6971 05:30:28,000 --> 05:30:29,837 that really hold deep to my heart, 6972 05:30:29,862 --> 05:30:31,182 knowing that a lot of people have seen it 6973 05:30:31,205 --> 05:30:32,769 really brings joy to me. 6974 05:30:32,793 --> 05:30:34,379 That's why it meant a lot to me. 6975 05:30:38,033 --> 05:30:39,286 Hey, I'm Twisted Todd. 6976 05:30:39,310 --> 05:30:40,769 I'm a big fan of 80s horror films, 6977 05:30:40,793 --> 05:30:42,665 mainly because as a kid growing up in the 80s, 6978 05:30:42,688 --> 05:30:43,871 didn't get to watch a lot of horror movies, 6979 05:30:43,896 --> 05:30:45,769 but my parents rented a lot of them, 6980 05:30:45,793 --> 05:30:47,044 and I got to hear them from my bedroom, 6981 05:30:47,067 --> 05:30:48,354 which fed my curiosity, 6982 05:30:48,379 --> 05:30:49,871 so about the time I was in middle school 6983 05:30:49,896 --> 05:30:52,044 in the late 80s, finally got to watch horror films, 6984 05:30:52,067 --> 05:30:53,700 fell in love with the slasher genre, 6985 05:30:53,723 --> 05:30:55,388 love films like "Creepshow", 6986 05:30:55,413 --> 05:30:57,217 and then later on in my college days, 6987 05:30:57,241 --> 05:31:00,388 I really fell in love with the cinematic genius 6988 05:31:00,413 --> 05:31:02,009 of directors like John Carpenter, 6989 05:31:02,033 --> 05:31:03,251 and of course Sam Raimi, 6990 05:31:03,275 --> 05:31:05,000 because I'm a huge "Evil Dead" fan. 6991 05:31:07,102 --> 05:31:09,562 I grew up mesmerized by horror movies, 6992 05:31:09,585 --> 05:31:11,871 primarily throughout the 80s. 6993 05:31:11,896 --> 05:31:13,940 They were such an important part 6994 05:31:13,965 --> 05:31:15,940 of many of my formative years, 6995 05:31:15,965 --> 05:31:19,423 and contribute to so many of my young memories. 6996 05:31:19,448 --> 05:31:21,665 I've since come to embrace and enjoy 6997 05:31:21,688 --> 05:31:23,769 all cinema, having learned so much more 6998 05:31:23,793 --> 05:31:26,354 about all genres over the years, 6999 05:31:26,379 --> 05:31:28,241 but you never forget your first love. 7000 05:31:30,413 --> 05:31:31,631 Horror films of the 80s 7001 05:31:31,654 --> 05:31:34,734 were so imaginative, and so ambitious, 7002 05:31:34,758 --> 05:31:37,217 but they pull it off, and there's a real 7003 05:31:37,241 --> 05:31:38,871 charm to them, a levity that we didn't have 7004 05:31:38,896 --> 05:31:41,217 in the 70s, when everything was very real, 7005 05:31:41,241 --> 05:31:42,975 and very gritty, and then we lost it 7006 05:31:43,000 --> 05:31:44,319 somewhere in the 90s, 7007 05:31:44,344 --> 05:31:46,217 and then things got very cynical. 7008 05:31:46,241 --> 05:31:48,113 But there's a fun factor to the 80s, 7009 05:31:48,136 --> 05:31:51,113 and it's no surprise that it takes a project 7010 05:31:51,136 --> 05:31:53,492 three, four plus hour documentaries 7011 05:31:53,516 --> 05:31:55,481 to really do that decade justice. 7012 05:31:57,481 --> 05:31:59,044 Growing up in the 80s, horror movies 7013 05:31:59,067 --> 05:32:00,492 were a big part of my life. 7014 05:32:00,516 --> 05:32:02,148 Thanks to a video rentals shop, 7015 05:32:02,171 --> 05:32:03,562 I was able to watch as many as I want 7016 05:32:03,585 --> 05:32:06,596 when I wanted without issue on my edge, 7017 05:32:06,619 --> 05:32:07,975 that helped me get through the trauma of school, 7018 05:32:08,000 --> 05:32:09,769 and everything that came with it, 7019 05:32:09,793 --> 05:32:11,975 and this is why I'm passionate about them, 7020 05:32:12,000 --> 05:32:14,217 and in particular, "Nightmare on Elm Street" 7021 05:32:14,241 --> 05:32:16,413 is one I'm really passionate about. 7022 05:32:20,481 --> 05:32:23,596 80s horror movies were a big part of my childhood, 7023 05:32:23,619 --> 05:32:25,665 having grown up in the 80s, 7024 05:32:25,688 --> 05:32:27,665 I watched them all. 7025 05:32:27,688 --> 05:32:30,940 My favorite 80s horror movie of all time 7026 05:32:30,965 --> 05:32:33,148 is "A Nightmare on Elm Street". 7027 05:32:33,171 --> 05:32:36,734 It was the first horror movie I ever saw, 7028 05:32:36,758 --> 05:32:40,217 and it planted the seed for my love of horror. 7029 05:32:40,241 --> 05:32:42,457 These "Search for Darkness" documentaries 7030 05:32:42,481 --> 05:32:45,562 have been nostalgic, and brought back 7031 05:32:45,585 --> 05:32:49,379 all those happy memories of visiting video stores. 7032 05:32:51,481 --> 05:32:52,940 I was born in 1980, 7033 05:32:52,965 --> 05:32:54,526 so being a child of the 80s, 7034 05:32:54,550 --> 05:32:55,906 some of my best memories 7035 05:32:55,931 --> 05:32:56,838 were hanging out with my mom 7036 05:32:56,863 --> 05:32:58,354 on a Friday or Saturday night, 7037 05:32:58,379 --> 05:33:00,113 going down to the local video store, 7038 05:33:00,136 --> 05:33:03,492 getting some 80s horror on VHS tape, 7039 05:33:03,516 --> 05:33:04,700 and just making those memories 7040 05:33:04,723 --> 05:33:06,423 and being scared, laughing, 7041 05:33:06,448 --> 05:33:08,319 and getting all cringed up. 7042 05:33:08,344 --> 05:33:10,286 And the "In Search of Darkness" series 7043 05:33:10,310 --> 05:33:12,526 has brought those memories back to me, 7044 05:33:12,550 --> 05:33:14,769 and helped me discover all the horror films 7045 05:33:14,793 --> 05:33:16,113 I never knew existed! 7046 05:33:16,136 --> 05:33:17,136 Thank you for that. 7047 05:33:19,793 --> 05:33:20,975 Hi there. 7048 05:33:21,000 --> 05:33:22,700 I love watching horror movie documentaries 7049 05:33:22,723 --> 05:33:24,251 and anything regarding horror, 7050 05:33:24,275 --> 05:33:25,906 but one series I really love 7051 05:33:25,931 --> 05:33:28,423 is the "In Search of Darkness" series. 7052 05:33:28,448 --> 05:33:30,319 I love how all these people just show 7053 05:33:30,344 --> 05:33:32,319 how much they love and care for these movies, 7054 05:33:32,344 --> 05:33:34,665 especially for the movies I've never even heard before, 7055 05:33:34,688 --> 05:33:37,286 and I love this series, because it shows me 7056 05:33:37,310 --> 05:33:38,562 all different kinds of horror 7057 05:33:38,585 --> 05:33:40,596 that I haven't even heard before, 7058 05:33:40,619 --> 05:33:42,975 or even seen, or anything like that. 7059 05:33:43,000 --> 05:33:44,802 So I'm sad that it's ending, 7060 05:33:44,827 --> 05:33:47,481 but hey, gotta end sometimes, right? 7061 05:33:49,965 --> 05:33:51,286 I think most horror fans would agree 7062 05:33:51,310 --> 05:33:53,319 that the absolute best decade for horror 7063 05:33:53,344 --> 05:33:54,492 was the 1980s. 7064 05:33:54,516 --> 05:33:55,906 We got the best of the best, 7065 05:33:55,931 --> 05:33:57,182 the worst of the worst, 7066 05:33:57,205 --> 05:33:58,319 the best of the worst, 7067 05:33:58,344 --> 05:33:59,769 and everything in between. 7068 05:33:59,793 --> 05:34:00,975 I can't even pick a favorite, 7069 05:34:01,000 --> 05:34:02,769 because there's far too many to choose from, 7070 05:34:02,793 --> 05:34:04,631 but having something like the "In Search of Darkness" 7071 05:34:04,654 --> 05:34:07,526 trilogy has been an absolute dream come true. 7072 05:34:07,550 --> 05:34:09,871 Getting to sit there for hours and hours on end, 7073 05:34:09,896 --> 05:34:11,631 and watch my favorite filmmakers 7074 05:34:11,654 --> 05:34:13,734 talk about my favorite films has been great, 7075 05:34:13,758 --> 05:34:16,009 but it's also been great to be able to discover 7076 05:34:16,033 --> 05:34:18,654 new movies that I may not have even heard of before. 7077 05:34:20,931 --> 05:34:23,251 "Evil Dead II", "Re-Animator", 7078 05:34:23,275 --> 05:34:25,734 "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2", 7079 05:34:25,758 --> 05:34:29,665 all of these great horror films, 7080 05:34:29,688 --> 05:34:33,654 with comedic timing, comedy inserted into it, 7081 05:34:34,793 --> 05:34:36,975 really affect me, shape me, 7082 05:34:37,000 --> 05:34:41,734 to such a degree that today I write about horror 7083 05:34:41,758 --> 05:34:45,000 and horror comedy for Pace Magazine and Vulture. 7084 05:34:50,275 --> 05:34:53,526 80s horror for me signifies complete nostalgia. 7085 05:34:53,550 --> 05:34:55,492 I clearly remember being a young boy 7086 05:34:55,516 --> 05:34:58,286 and seeing these wonderful and iconic 80s posters, 7087 05:34:58,310 --> 05:35:01,526 and being simultaneously scared and intrigued. 7088 05:35:01,550 --> 05:35:04,388 But now as an academic that writes about horror, 7089 05:35:04,413 --> 05:35:06,148 documentaries like "In Search of Darkness" 7090 05:35:06,171 --> 05:35:08,492 are highly important as they raise the profile 7091 05:35:08,516 --> 05:35:10,148 of horrors in that form. 7092 05:35:10,171 --> 05:35:12,734 These films are not only fun and super cool, 7093 05:35:12,758 --> 05:35:15,665 but they are significant cultural products, 7094 05:35:15,688 --> 05:35:18,516 well-deserving of academic analysis and study. 7095 05:35:21,000 --> 05:35:24,837 The 80s was a time when the horror genre exploded. 7096 05:35:24,862 --> 05:35:27,492 Big name horror icons like Jason, Freddie, 7097 05:35:27,516 --> 05:35:30,388 Chuckie, Pinhead, all got their start in the 80s. 7098 05:35:30,413 --> 05:35:32,940 And being a late 90s kid, these were names 7099 05:35:32,965 --> 05:35:35,975 that I grew up knowing to fear. 7100 05:35:36,000 --> 05:35:37,734 My girlfriend and I searched out 7101 05:35:37,758 --> 05:35:39,286 a lot of these films, and it was something 7102 05:35:39,310 --> 05:35:41,182 that we could always bond over. 7103 05:35:41,205 --> 05:35:43,079 And I think that "In Search of Darkness" 7104 05:35:43,102 --> 05:35:44,700 did something really great, 7105 05:35:44,723 --> 05:35:48,000 cataloging and celebrating all of these films. 7106 05:35:50,000 --> 05:35:51,975 They have inspired me to go to college 7107 05:35:52,000 --> 05:35:54,492 and learn how to write horror films. 7108 05:35:54,516 --> 05:35:55,734 I'm a future filmmaker 7109 05:35:55,758 --> 05:35:58,275 because of all the movies I've watched. 7110 05:35:59,896 --> 05:36:01,596 And I'm thankful that I was able 7111 05:36:01,619 --> 05:36:03,481 to be a part of this community. 7112 05:36:06,275 --> 05:36:08,975 Watching horror movies as a kid in the 80s 7113 05:36:09,000 --> 05:36:11,665 inspired me to get into the film industry, 7114 05:36:11,688 --> 05:36:15,009 especially to make horror movies of my own, 7115 05:36:15,033 --> 05:36:17,354 and so "In Search of Darkness" continues 7116 05:36:17,379 --> 05:36:19,596 to be that inspiration, 7117 05:36:19,619 --> 05:36:22,388 and I hope it does the same 7118 05:36:22,413 --> 05:36:25,457 for the next wave of horror creators, 7119 05:36:25,481 --> 05:36:26,931 for generations to come. 7120 05:36:29,896 --> 05:36:31,319 80s horror means a lot to me, 7121 05:36:31,344 --> 05:36:32,631 takes me back to when I was a kid 7122 05:36:32,654 --> 05:36:34,457 hanging out with my brothers and my friends, 7123 05:36:34,481 --> 05:36:36,665 staying up late, watching movies I know I should not 7124 05:36:36,688 --> 05:36:38,113 have been watching at the time, 7125 05:36:38,136 --> 05:36:39,975 and falling in love with stories and characters 7126 05:36:40,000 --> 05:36:42,113 created by Wes Craven, John Carpenter, 7127 05:36:42,136 --> 05:36:44,217 George Romero, and Charles Band. 7128 05:36:44,241 --> 05:36:45,734 I will always be in their debt 7129 05:36:45,758 --> 05:36:47,562 for providing me with hours of entertainment, 7130 05:36:47,585 --> 05:36:48,975 and with "In Search of Darkness", 7131 05:36:49,000 --> 05:36:50,940 it has provided me with even more hours 7132 05:36:50,965 --> 05:36:52,217 of 80s horror entertainment 7133 05:36:52,241 --> 05:36:54,802 that I will continue to watch to this day. 7134 05:36:54,827 --> 05:36:57,965 Long live 80s horror and "In Search of Darkness". 7135 05:37:01,619 --> 05:37:04,665 As an 80s kid, one of my favorite memories 7136 05:37:04,688 --> 05:37:08,837 are from video stores Friday night selecting movies. 7137 05:37:08,862 --> 05:37:11,492 The horror section always had the best films, 7138 05:37:11,516 --> 05:37:13,344 and the most amazing cover art. 7139 05:37:14,619 --> 05:37:16,940 The 80s horror basically has it all, 7140 05:37:16,965 --> 05:37:19,319 a great story, a good cast, 7141 05:37:19,344 --> 05:37:22,275 amazing special effects, and a cool soundtrack. 7142 05:37:24,723 --> 05:37:27,457 These documentaries have been life-changing for me. 7143 05:37:27,481 --> 05:37:30,009 They were films that I had forgotten about, 7144 05:37:30,033 --> 05:37:32,251 films that I had never seen, 7145 05:37:32,275 --> 05:37:35,562 and a love for a distinct period 7146 05:37:35,585 --> 05:37:39,975 of my early life that I oftentimes feel disconnected from, 7147 05:37:40,000 --> 05:37:44,319 and I'm so thankful to have found these projects, 7148 05:37:44,344 --> 05:37:46,033 and been able to back all of them. 7149 05:37:48,344 --> 05:37:49,344 Thank you. 7150 05:37:51,793 --> 05:37:53,516 All the best parts of nostalgia 7151 05:37:55,171 --> 05:37:56,837 in a pool of blood. 7152 05:37:56,862 --> 05:37:57,862 Love it. 7153 05:37:59,758 --> 05:38:01,286 Hey, this is Jacob. 7154 05:38:01,310 --> 05:38:02,526 And Angelica. 7155 05:38:02,550 --> 05:38:04,457 We're both fans of 80s horror movies. 7156 05:38:04,481 --> 05:38:06,871 That's why we own all three volumes 7157 05:38:06,896 --> 05:38:08,526 of "In Search of Darkness". 7158 05:38:08,550 --> 05:38:11,079 It's a dictionary, basically, of all the greatest 7159 05:38:11,102 --> 05:38:13,251 horror movies made from the 80s 7160 05:38:13,275 --> 05:38:15,182 that we've all grown to love. 7161 05:38:15,205 --> 05:38:17,205 "In Search of Darkness", you rock. 7162 05:38:20,448 --> 05:38:22,286 The "In Search of Darkness" documentaries 7163 05:38:22,310 --> 05:38:24,526 have allowed me to relive, year by year, 7164 05:38:24,550 --> 05:38:26,871 a truly golden age in horror cinema. 7165 05:38:26,896 --> 05:38:28,837 In the 80s, we had directors like Carpenter, 7166 05:38:28,862 --> 05:38:31,423 Romero, and Cronenberg in the peak of their career. 7167 05:38:31,448 --> 05:38:33,631 We had a new generation of practical special effects 7168 05:38:33,654 --> 05:38:36,492 in horror cinema, and video stores coming out 7169 05:38:36,516 --> 05:38:38,251 with a new horror title every week. 7170 05:38:38,275 --> 05:38:40,182 The fact that we're still talking about all these films 7171 05:38:40,205 --> 05:38:42,457 over 30 years later just shows how durable 7172 05:38:42,481 --> 05:38:44,044 the horror genre is. 7173 05:38:44,067 --> 05:38:46,516 So please, keep those documentaries coming. 7174 05:38:51,448 --> 05:38:52,665 Hi. 7175 05:38:52,688 --> 05:38:54,182 First of all, I want to thank you 7176 05:38:54,205 --> 05:38:56,492 for including us fans in so many ways, 7177 05:38:56,516 --> 05:38:58,492 and for the journey you've been taking us 7178 05:38:58,516 --> 05:39:01,182 for the three "In Search of Darkness" documentaries. 7179 05:39:01,205 --> 05:39:03,871 I love 80s horror so much because of the style, 7180 05:39:03,896 --> 05:39:06,734 the creativity, and the passion for each of the films. 7181 05:39:06,758 --> 05:39:09,217 But the most important part for me is 7182 05:39:09,241 --> 05:39:12,148 that every single film from this horror decade, 7183 05:39:12,171 --> 05:39:13,388 the good and the bad, 7184 05:39:13,413 --> 05:39:16,000 are so great because of the fun they make. 7185 05:39:20,102 --> 05:39:22,182 David, Robin. 7186 05:39:22,205 --> 05:39:24,286 You've created a monster. 7187 05:39:24,310 --> 05:39:26,975 A timeless milestone for every horror fan. 7188 05:39:27,000 --> 05:39:29,079 And I'm extremely thankful for being featured 7189 05:39:29,102 --> 05:39:32,631 in part one of the ultimate horror documentary experience. 7190 05:39:32,654 --> 05:39:35,251 It made me feel like I'm 15 again. 7191 05:39:35,275 --> 05:39:38,079 So for anyone who's "In Search of Darkness", 7192 05:39:38,102 --> 05:39:40,654 stop searching, because we found it. 7193 05:39:43,275 --> 05:39:45,423 80s horror is so important to me 7194 05:39:45,448 --> 05:39:49,182 because it gave me ideas to draw when I was younger, 7195 05:39:49,205 --> 05:39:51,596 and as my drawing ability progressed, 7196 05:39:51,619 --> 05:39:53,837 today I'm a tattoo artist, 7197 05:39:53,862 --> 05:39:57,113 so I guess you could say 80s horror helped shape my life. 7198 05:39:57,136 --> 05:39:58,734 Plus being Canadian, I want to give 7199 05:39:58,758 --> 05:40:00,631 a special thanks to David Cronenberg 7200 05:40:00,654 --> 05:40:03,009 for all the inspiration he gave me. 7201 05:40:03,033 --> 05:40:05,251 "In Search of Darkness", honestly, 7202 05:40:05,275 --> 05:40:07,975 greatest documentary I have ever watched. 7203 05:40:08,000 --> 05:40:10,354 It brought me straight back to some of the most 7204 05:40:10,379 --> 05:40:12,000 special times of my life. 7205 05:40:14,448 --> 05:40:16,596 As a kid in the 80s, I was constantly 7206 05:40:16,619 --> 05:40:19,286 in and out of hospitals. 7207 05:40:19,310 --> 05:40:21,975 Watching horror movies and playing video games 7208 05:40:22,000 --> 05:40:23,171 was a release for me. 7209 05:40:24,344 --> 05:40:26,217 Basically, I'm the kid on the box art, 7210 05:40:26,241 --> 05:40:28,000 and on the posters. 7211 05:40:29,448 --> 05:40:32,700 I'm so proud to be part of this incredible journey 7212 05:40:32,723 --> 05:40:35,631 through 80s horror that is the "In Search of Darkness" 7213 05:40:35,654 --> 05:40:40,310 trilogy, and I just had to immortalize it on my body. 7214 05:40:45,481 --> 05:40:46,975 I love it that we're done. 7215 05:40:47,000 --> 05:40:48,241 I love it. 7216 05:40:49,067 --> 05:40:50,067 Love it. 7217 05:40:52,896 --> 05:40:54,413 Enough is never enough 7218 05:40:56,862 --> 05:40:57,862 of the star. 7219 05:41:00,723 --> 05:41:01,723 Mm. 544372

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