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Horror movies.
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Mutilation,
decapitation, torture.
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Does that sound entertaining?
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In the 80s, horror really
dove into this gritty,
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grimy, gross, horrific,
psychotic exploration
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of the chaotic maniac,
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the questionably
motivated murderer,
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the individual who
seemed to be after
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nothing but a blood lust as
punishment for promiscuity.
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Or materialism.
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Telling stories without
really worrying too much
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about justifying the
horror that these villains
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were imposing upon their victims
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was exploited in a
really wonderful way
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by the filmmakers of the 80s.
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I'm most interested in
fear, the emotion of fear.
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People pay to be scared,
and when you think about it,
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it's real ridiculous.
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Underneath all of
it were these cracks
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in the veneer.
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This place has a
way of making us think
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about the kind of future
our young people will have.
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Nationwide,
we found that minor cases
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of satanic activity
light up the map.
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It's 10 p.m.
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Do you know where
your children are?
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It's very much, for me,
the decade in which America
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tells stories about itself.
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There were hundreds and
hundreds of horror films
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produced in the 80s.
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The essence of sex and violence.
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It is the explosion
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of that video rental
market that fuels
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the modern horror films.
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There's something very
sexually attractive to horror.
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It's almost like
you're attracted to
the forbidden fruit.
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Kids get the movies
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from the horror section
of the video store.
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Most of the violent
movies are rated R,
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and aren't supposed to be seen
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unless you're 17 years old.
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My mom would have died
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if she knew some of the stuff
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I was bringing
home and watching.
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So many weird things
in the movies of the 80s.
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I was genuinely scared.
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Maybe my imagination
was too vivid.
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It is a bit weird, isn't it?
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Strange horror.
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We just wanted to say
things really fast and loud.
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You know?
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Everything was
kind of over the top,
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and we were at a party.
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The 80s were a proving ground
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for horror films to
be commercially viable
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as movies that also were not
intellectually unrespectable.
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We will not be showing
you extreme violence
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in these movies.
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We've picked scenes that
only suggest the violence.
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We want to inform
you, not offend you.
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It's just as well we're not
showing some of those scenes.
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I think people would
turn their sets off.
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Yes.
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I could watch 80s horror
movies on a loop forever.
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It's never enough.
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Thrill me.
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"Death Ship".
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Your holiday in hell.
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"Death Ship" is
about a bunch of people
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on a cruise liner that sinks,
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and the survivors get onto
this passing freighter
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that turns out to be
haunted by Nazi ghosts.
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It's like it's running itself.
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This old ship seems to
have a life of its own.
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The movie stars Richard
Crenna and George Kennedy.
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This is my ship,
and I am the captain.
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It was directed by Alvin Rakoff,
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who primarily was a TV director.
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And it was written by Jack Hill,
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who was friends with
Francis Ford Coppola.
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They actually went to
film school together.
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And then afterwards,
they went and worked
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for Roger Corman on a
movie called "The Terror".
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"Death Ship" was a very early
example of Canuxploitation,
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which was something created
by the Canadian government.
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There was a tax break that
allowed it to be easier
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for Canadian filmmakers
to make movies.
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Thanks to Canuxploitation,
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there were a lot more Canadian
horror films that were made,
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as long as they included
Canadian actors and crew.
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We commit her soul,
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and we commit her body
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to the deep!
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No!
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It's not a very bloody film,
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but it's a very disgusting film.
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It's blood!
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It's blood!
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Hold on!
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There's moments in the film
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where they discover
what the ship is.
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They're going
through the bowels,
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and they start opening drawers,
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and they're finding gold teeth,
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things that were leftover
from tortured prisoners.
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Still running.
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And it makes the
film a lot darker
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than you would initially think.
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Let's get the hell out of here!
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Go!
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Watching it now, it doesn't
have as great an impact
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as it would have back in 1980.
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It hit harder back then.
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Because that was so much
closer to the Holocaust.
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Something
terrifying has happened
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to the children.
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Pray you never meet them.
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So many of these movies
have these idyllic beginnings.
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It's like, look at this town,
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look at these beautiful little
white children on a bus.
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They're singing.
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They love their life,
it's great.
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There's a toxic
plant, there's a leak,
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and the leak is, like,
leaking into the ground.
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This yellow mist is coming
off of this toxic stuff.
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Then we cut to the kids.
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♪ Jolly, we love everybody
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And they all drive
through this yellow mist.
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So we know something
bad is going to happen.
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♪ Cheers to the bus
driver, the bus driver ♪
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The kids never come
home from school.
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They find the bus
abandoned by a cemetery.
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Convenient.
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I just found the school bus,
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about 100 yards from
the Ghoul place.
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Motor's still running,
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but no Fred, no kids.
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This idea of creepy
kids is very pervasive.
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It's universally scary,
because you don't want
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to fear your child.
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Daddy!
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You want to protect
your children.
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These evil kids are different,
because they smile at you,
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and they reach for you,
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and it's very hard
to not go to them.
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And when children will kill you,
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it's just terrifying.
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Particularly if they're,
like, void of a soul.
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Evil kids are always
gonna be scary.
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Whoa.
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Whatever did this
Billy, got Harry too.
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Then once it gets into the
suspense part of the film,
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I'm like, I know this music.
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Mommy!
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This is kind of
the same exact score
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as "Friday the 13th".
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It had a lot of
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without the ch-ch-ch, ah-ah-ah.
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The score of this movie
is by Harry Manfredini.
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Of course, "Friday the 13th"
came out in May of 1980,
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and "The Children"
came out in June.
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Oh my god!
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Daddy!
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Harry Manfredini's score
was more than the budget
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for the actual
filming of the movie.
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Well, you get some violins
and you make them scream.
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I had more money to spend.
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So, consequently it opens
up way more choices.
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There was a score by Jerry
Goldsmith called "Coma"
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where all the violins go
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like that, and I go
wow, that's cool.
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That's effective.
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And so I figured out
how I would do that.
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I'd be running from
the kids, though.
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I'll tell you that.
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I'll tell you that
and three quarters.
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I'd be like, nope.
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Joni!
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No!
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Kathy, don't!
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Don't get got
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by your child with an
inexplicable manicure.
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It is not your child.
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Little Billy has
left the building.
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He gone.
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"Prom Night"
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If you're not back by midnight,
you won't be coming home.
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Slashers, a lot of times,
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especially in 1980 as a
reaction to "Halloween",
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they weren't necessarily
going very deep emotionally.
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That real life
horror of prom night
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is what kind of sets it
apart from a lot of different
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slashers from that time.
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Kill!
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Kill!
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The setup is so vicious that
you really felt the atrocity
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of what happened.
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Six years later,
it's prom night,
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and somebody's gonna pay for
that little girl who died.
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As we go through the
high school experience,
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which everybody knows is
just a form of torture.
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Certain people try to
rectify that experience.
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All these people that had
been carrying this secret
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for so long, you can't
hide stuff like that.
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You just can't.
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Not for long.
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Not forever.
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It's been a long time.
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Tonight, it's my turn.
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The suspense is great.
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You know, the fact that
it's a backwards whodunit,
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because you know, we're
trying to figure out
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who's going to do
it, the whole time.
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How about a muffin?
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No, cookie.
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Like me better now?
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There's always red
herrings in the movie,
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but then, of course, the
killer starts picking them off,
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one by one, like at the prom.
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Kelly!
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You've got Jamie Lee
Curtis at her sassy best,
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and I love her.
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- I did it!
- Oh, shut up!
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She has this little 80s
cut, this little flip thing,
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which is everything that
I needed in my life.
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She is not Laurie
Strode in this thing.
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She's like a popular
girl this time.
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It's reminiscent of so
many other influences.
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"Carrie" is in there.
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"Saturday Night
Fever" is in there.
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♪ The feeling's right
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It's sort of this last
bastion of disco culture.
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♪ Tonight is the night
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Jamie Lee Curtis was
dancing her little booty off
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in this movie, and
I'm here for it.
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One of the fun things
about "Prom Night'"
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is that at the end,
the song that's playing
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is called "Love Me Til I Die".
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♪ Love me til I die
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♪ And keep me satisfied
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Don't necessarily expect
prom to be the best night
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of your lives, because a
lot of people could die.
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- No!
- Now!
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This one, along
with "Terror Train",
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these were the movies
that really solidified
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Jamie Lee Curtis
as a scream queen.
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The big moment
for me is the end,
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and the reaction from
Jamie Lee Curtis,
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because she knows
who's behind it all,
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and it's a real
traumatic moment.
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♪ Imagine something
deep inside ♪
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Watching severed heads
roll out on prom night
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is pretty fun.
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No!
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He knows you're alone
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And it's going to be
for the very last time.
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You know, sometimes
our dogs of the week
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are laughably bad.
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This one borders on being evil.
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Staten Island slasher.
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Love a regional slasher.
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This one you have
Caitlin O'Heaney
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playing a young bride-to-be
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who's being stalked
by a serial killer
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right before her wedding.
266
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And I like when a
slasher just tells you
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who the killer is
at the beginning.
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Here's Ray.
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Ray.
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This is the killer.
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"He Knows You're Alone"
is a 1980s slasher
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directed by Armand Mastroianni.
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He, of course, went on to
direct other 80s entries,
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like "The Clairvoyant",
"The Supernaturals",
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and "Cameron's Closet".
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This one's a bit of an outlier
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because it's actually a
studio produced slasher.
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MGMUA did it.
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So it's got a little
higher production value.
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♪ It's the night again
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It's got your garden variety
slasher effects in there,
282
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but there's a memorable
head in a fish tank moment.
283
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Tom Hanks' first movie.
284
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America's favorite, Tom Hanks.
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I stretched out an extra
foot to make sure I'd trip you.
286
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Why'd you do that?
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00:14:17,793 --> 00:14:19,182
Well, it seemed the
best way to meet you.
288
00:14:19,206 --> 00:14:21,941
Apparently, he was
supposed to die in the film,
289
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but they cut it
because of how great
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his performance was.
291
00:14:25,309 --> 00:14:27,423
Horror movies and
the roller coasters,
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and the House of Horror ride-
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I wanna go on that next!
294
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You can face death without
any real fear of dying.
295
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Everyone loves Tom Hanks.
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They're like, we
can't fucking kill
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this lovable, likable man.
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He's a darling.
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We're not gonna murder him.
300
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It came without warning,
301
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and now it's coming for you.
302
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"Without Warning" is from
the great Greydon Clark
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and it doesn't get nearly the
amount of praise it deserves.
304
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It's got an amazing
cast, with Jack Palance,
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and Martin Landau, who at
the time was mostly known
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for "Space: 1999" and
"Mission Impossible".
307
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And he's playing this
wild-haired conspiracy nut,
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who's the only one who
knows about the alien,
309
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and no one believes him.
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Look, I warned you!
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When they start eating on you,
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don't come to me for help,
313
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because you ain't getting any.
314
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You've got this gigantic alien
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who's on earth to hunt humans.
316
00:15:29,931 --> 00:15:32,975
It throws these little
parasitic alien frisbees
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that latch onto people.
318
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The movie was shot
by Dean Cundey,
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who is the award-winning
cinematographer of "The Thing",
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as well as numerous other
John Carpenter films.
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In 1987 during a press
tour, Arnold Schwarzenegger
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stated that the movie
"Without Warning"
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was a direct influence
on the movie "Predator".
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It's done really well, and it's
such a creepy-looking alien,
325
00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,182
when I saw it when I was little,
326
00:16:03,206 --> 00:16:05,562
it scared the hell out of me.
327
00:16:05,586 --> 00:16:07,078
And who's in the costume?
328
00:16:07,102 --> 00:16:09,793
Kevin Peter Hall, who was in
the costume of the Predator.
329
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The movie made its way to
a company called Filmways,
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who didn't want to release it.
331
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They actually wanted
to bury the film
332
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Greydon Clark had
to threaten to sue
333
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in order to get
the film released.
334
00:16:23,861 --> 00:16:26,320
Knowing this was the creative
spark for "Predator",
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you should absolutely
check it out,
336
00:16:27,895 --> 00:16:30,043
especially if you
love that film.
337
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You can see the influence
coming from here.
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By the time they believe in him,
339
00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,136
it will be too late.
340
00:16:50,067 --> 00:16:51,423
"The Boogeyman".
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Rated R.
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In classic slasher tradition,
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this movie starts with a
prologue with children,
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who are being
traumatized in some way.
345
00:17:00,724 --> 00:17:02,596
Its "Halloween"
DNA is very present
346
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out of the gate.
347
00:17:03,552 --> 00:17:05,561
With the music, and its POV,
348
00:17:05,586 --> 00:17:07,700
and sort of a voyeuristic thing,
349
00:17:07,723 --> 00:17:11,803
looking at folks engaged
in carnal frivolity.
350
00:17:11,826 --> 00:17:13,009
What are you lookin' at?
351
00:17:13,034 --> 00:17:14,182
They've walked in on their mom
352
00:17:14,205 --> 00:17:15,114
making out with a fella
353
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who then ties up the boy.
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00:17:17,826 --> 00:17:19,769
The boy's sister,
she cuts him loose.
355
00:17:19,792 --> 00:17:22,344
The boy goes on to kill
the man who tied him up.
356
00:17:26,550 --> 00:17:28,309
And he gets trapped
in this mirror.
357
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He is suddenly a supernatural
presence in their lives.
358
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I know he's here.
359
00:17:40,103 --> 00:17:41,423
Who?
360
00:17:41,448 --> 00:17:44,423
When I broke the
mirror, I released him.
361
00:17:44,448 --> 00:17:45,906
Lacy, he's dead!
362
00:17:45,931 --> 00:17:47,250
There's a guy
sitting in the car,
363
00:17:47,275 --> 00:17:49,758
pricks him in the
neck with a knife.
364
00:17:52,481 --> 00:17:54,423
His girlfriend comes in
through the passenger side
365
00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:56,895
to, like, give him a kiss.
366
00:18:01,136 --> 00:18:02,906
So they're skewered together,
367
00:18:02,931 --> 00:18:05,596
and it's like a
double-death scene.
368
00:18:05,619 --> 00:18:08,078
I never seen a kiss this long.
369
00:18:08,103 --> 00:18:11,113
That was kind of
an amazing kill.
370
00:18:11,136 --> 00:18:13,872
It gets very bizarre,
only because it's like
371
00:18:13,895 --> 00:18:15,664
three different
things in one movie.
372
00:18:15,689 --> 00:18:18,492
Like they were just kind of
throwing everything at it
373
00:18:18,517 --> 00:18:20,172
to see what stuck.
374
00:18:25,275 --> 00:18:26,733
Let's just do all of it.
375
00:18:26,758 --> 00:18:29,733
Let's make it a weird
voyeuristic kinky slasher
376
00:18:29,758 --> 00:18:34,136
supernatural exorcism
cyborg demon thing.
377
00:18:37,517 --> 00:18:39,250
Get away!
378
00:18:39,275 --> 00:18:40,527
There's some unique stuff
happening behind the scenes
379
00:18:40,550 --> 00:18:41,733
on this one.
380
00:18:41,758 --> 00:18:43,872
Susanna Love, and Nicholas Love,
381
00:18:43,895 --> 00:18:45,492
actually brother and
sister in real life,
382
00:18:45,517 --> 00:18:46,733
playing siblings in the film.
383
00:18:46,758 --> 00:18:49,631
Moreover, Susanna is the
co-writer of the film,
384
00:18:49,654 --> 00:18:51,802
and married to her
writing partner
385
00:18:51,826 --> 00:18:54,458
and the director of
the film, Ulli Lommel.
386
00:18:54,481 --> 00:18:57,250
An incredibly
underrated director.
387
00:18:57,275 --> 00:18:59,862
He's imaginative,
he's different.
388
00:19:01,067 --> 00:19:03,423
"Boogeyman" was
a low budget film
389
00:19:03,448 --> 00:19:05,044
that was incredibly successful,
390
00:19:05,067 --> 00:19:08,826
and that's what really
put Lommel over the edge.
391
00:19:14,413 --> 00:19:15,837
The sequel is another
interesting one,
392
00:19:15,862 --> 00:19:18,113
because the "Boogeyman 2"
predates the "Scream" franchise
393
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in that in concerns a
Hollywood production
394
00:19:21,619 --> 00:19:24,596
trying to make a film about
the events of the first film.
395
00:19:24,619 --> 00:19:26,527
So it's very meta in that way,
396
00:19:26,550 --> 00:19:29,309
and meta before there was a
whole lot of meta going on.
397
00:19:30,517 --> 00:19:32,205
Boogeyman!
398
00:19:42,619 --> 00:19:44,319
"Christmas Evil".
399
00:19:44,344 --> 00:19:46,067
The night he dropped in.
400
00:19:47,309 --> 00:19:49,355
I just love horror
set at Christmas.
401
00:19:49,378 --> 00:19:51,586
And in the 80s,
there's tons of it.
402
00:19:54,586 --> 00:19:56,561
Christmas is a time
when things are
403
00:19:56,586 --> 00:19:59,078
supposed to be a certain way,
404
00:19:59,103 --> 00:20:01,976
and horror films are
all about subverting
405
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,527
what it is supposed to be.
406
00:20:03,550 --> 00:20:06,378
And so Christmas and horror
really go hand in hand.
407
00:20:10,136 --> 00:20:13,250
Brandon Maggart plays
a middle-aged man,
408
00:20:13,275 --> 00:20:14,733
doesn't have any friends,
409
00:20:14,758 --> 00:20:17,319
doesn't have a girlfriend,
or anything like that.
410
00:20:17,344 --> 00:20:19,250
Works at a toy factory,
411
00:20:19,275 --> 00:20:23,250
and he likes Christmas
a little bit too much
412
00:20:23,275 --> 00:20:27,078
to the point where he starts
to kill for Christmas.
413
00:20:27,103 --> 00:20:28,976
I have superlative taste.
414
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,000
Merry Christmas!
415
00:20:32,172 --> 00:20:34,458
"Christmas Evil" is a
movie that usually gets
416
00:20:34,481 --> 00:20:37,182
classified as a horror film,
417
00:20:37,205 --> 00:20:41,250
but it's really more of a
psychological character study
418
00:20:41,275 --> 00:20:43,147
similar to "Taxi
Driver", or something,
419
00:20:43,172 --> 00:20:45,631
where you're just
watching this lonely
420
00:20:45,654 --> 00:20:49,654
socially isolated guy
just start to crack.
421
00:20:53,723 --> 00:20:56,631
Lewis Jackson was
obsessed with Fassbender
422
00:20:56,654 --> 00:20:59,172
and German expressionism
at the time of making it.
423
00:21:00,067 --> 00:21:00,977
What are you saying?
424
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,275
I'm gonna play my tune now.
425
00:21:03,792 --> 00:21:04,596
Everybody'll dance.
426
00:21:04,619 --> 00:21:05,528
You'll see.
427
00:21:05,551 --> 00:21:07,561
And adding that art side to it
428
00:21:07,586 --> 00:21:10,147
I believe gives it the
more fantasy element,
429
00:21:10,172 --> 00:21:13,103
and Christmas is based
around magic and fantasy.
430
00:21:14,378 --> 00:21:16,250
The look of the film is great.
431
00:21:16,275 --> 00:21:19,448
Every scene of this
movie glows of Christmas.
432
00:21:20,448 --> 00:21:23,664
Merry Christmas everyone!
433
00:21:23,689 --> 00:21:26,182
The holidays are hard
for a lot of people.
434
00:21:26,205 --> 00:21:28,769
Even if you are
well-off, the holidays
435
00:21:28,792 --> 00:21:30,837
are a very stressful period.
436
00:21:30,862 --> 00:21:32,862
And "Christmas
Evil" captures that.
437
00:21:35,103 --> 00:21:36,010
Harry?
438
00:21:36,035 --> 00:21:37,837
Merry Christmas, Frank!
439
00:21:37,862 --> 00:21:40,596
It's so nightmarish and weird.
440
00:21:40,619 --> 00:21:43,078
You see him tug on his
beard and it doesn't move,
441
00:21:43,103 --> 00:21:44,664
like it becomes a part of him,
442
00:21:44,689 --> 00:21:48,413
like a horror version of Tim
Allen's "The Santa Claus".
443
00:21:50,413 --> 00:21:52,388
Are we seeing him
become Santa Claus,
444
00:21:52,413 --> 00:21:55,136
or is Harry seeing himself
become Santa Claus?
445
00:21:56,205 --> 00:21:59,769
Merry Christmas!
446
00:21:59,792 --> 00:22:02,217
It's a movie that
I think will surprise
447
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,941
a lot of people the
first time they watch it,
448
00:22:03,964 --> 00:22:05,319
especially the ending,
449
00:22:05,344 --> 00:22:07,689
because that comes out
of fucking nowhere.
450
00:22:09,103 --> 00:22:10,872
Are we seeing what we're seeing
451
00:22:10,895 --> 00:22:12,596
onscreen actually happening?
452
00:22:12,619 --> 00:22:15,034
Or is this how Harry
is dealing with it?
453
00:22:17,862 --> 00:22:19,837
"Christmas Evil" was
the title of the movie
454
00:22:19,862 --> 00:22:21,769
that the distributor
gave that Lewis Jackson
455
00:22:21,792 --> 00:22:24,388
did not approve of, and
actually didn't know
456
00:22:24,413 --> 00:22:25,906
that it was called
"Christmas Evil"
457
00:22:25,931 --> 00:22:28,250
until he saw the trade when
it was being re-released.
458
00:22:28,275 --> 00:22:30,113
But the film was called
"Better Watch Out".
459
00:22:30,136 --> 00:22:32,009
That's what he filmed
it as, and that's what
460
00:22:32,034 --> 00:22:33,941
he knew it as, and
he still to this day
461
00:22:33,964 --> 00:22:36,664
does not like the
name "Christmas Evil".
462
00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:38,976
♪ Merry Christmas
463
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,182
Fun fact.
464
00:22:40,205 --> 00:22:42,009
Brandon Maggart
would later go on
465
00:22:42,034 --> 00:22:45,527
to become singer Fiona
Apple's dad in real life,
466
00:22:45,550 --> 00:22:47,976
proving once again
that the apple
467
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,413
never falls far from
the Christmas tree.
468
00:22:58,034 --> 00:22:59,527
One of the big reasons
that horror films
469
00:22:59,550 --> 00:23:01,631
have remained so
popular is that it is
470
00:23:01,654 --> 00:23:04,044
a guaranteed way
to make some money.
471
00:23:04,067 --> 00:23:07,355
If you don't spend a hell
of a lot of money on it,
472
00:23:07,378 --> 00:23:08,803
there's gold in those hills.
473
00:23:08,826 --> 00:23:10,561
There are people out
there who are willing
474
00:23:10,586 --> 00:23:13,976
to take a chance on any
kind of horror movie.
475
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,803
And the video
revolution came along,
476
00:23:15,826 --> 00:23:17,664
and it changed everything.
477
00:23:17,689 --> 00:23:20,906
Now this is a video
tape recorder, or VTR,
478
00:23:20,931 --> 00:23:22,078
actually sometimes
they're called
479
00:23:22,103 --> 00:23:24,664
video cassette
recorders, or VCRs.
480
00:23:24,689 --> 00:23:27,906
The ability to play
a movie, or a show,
481
00:23:27,931 --> 00:23:30,664
an entertainment,
at whim, at will,
482
00:23:30,689 --> 00:23:34,000
that did not exist prior to
this home video revolution.
483
00:23:35,586 --> 00:23:37,700
That's the thing that
most people today,
484
00:23:37,723 --> 00:23:39,355
where everything's
accessible and fast,
485
00:23:39,378 --> 00:23:42,423
don't realize that
it was not like that.
486
00:23:42,448 --> 00:23:45,388
Now, some of the best
movies on television
487
00:23:45,413 --> 00:23:46,561
aren't on television.
488
00:23:46,586 --> 00:23:47,976
They're on SelectaVision.
489
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,906
Well, now it was instant
gratification time.
490
00:23:49,931 --> 00:23:51,182
400.
491
00:23:51,205 --> 00:23:52,423
Set it today.
492
00:23:52,448 --> 00:23:54,664
It was a whole world
opened up to people.
493
00:23:54,689 --> 00:23:56,217
Movies in the 50s
and 60s, I mean,
494
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,976
you hoped that a Hammer
film was gonna play
495
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,458
in your neighborhood,
because if it didn't,
496
00:23:59,481 --> 00:24:01,250
you weren't gonna
see it for five years
497
00:24:01,275 --> 00:24:02,388
until it went on television.
498
00:24:02,413 --> 00:24:04,286
You largely couldn't
see it at all,
499
00:24:04,309 --> 00:24:06,872
or if you could, you had
to see it chopped to pieces
500
00:24:06,895 --> 00:24:08,586
on the 4:30 movie.
501
00:24:13,344 --> 00:24:17,217
So when video appeared, it
was like this dam broke.
502
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,596
There was this new
distribution outlet
503
00:24:19,619 --> 00:24:22,423
for these films that were
able to be repackaged
504
00:24:22,448 --> 00:24:24,319
and given a whole
new lease of life,
505
00:24:24,344 --> 00:24:27,700
or films that had only come
out in their native country,
506
00:24:27,723 --> 00:24:29,664
then all of a sudden,
they had an outlet
507
00:24:29,689 --> 00:24:31,355
in other territories.
508
00:24:31,378 --> 00:24:33,448
"The Curse of the Devil".
509
00:24:35,067 --> 00:24:39,664
The video tape revolution
brought a new appreciation
510
00:24:39,689 --> 00:24:42,147
for some of my films,
especially "The Thing".
511
00:24:42,172 --> 00:24:46,319
What really began video, like
with the internet, was porn.
512
00:24:46,344 --> 00:24:47,287
What's it like to become
513
00:24:47,310 --> 00:24:48,976
one of football's cowgirls?
514
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,492
Debbie Does Dallas
has all the answers.
515
00:24:51,517 --> 00:24:54,561
I think the first
VHS I ever bought
516
00:24:54,586 --> 00:24:59,286
was a porn tape that cost,
like, $80 back in the 70s.
517
00:24:59,309 --> 00:25:01,837
How a lot of us consumed
media at that time,
518
00:25:01,862 --> 00:25:04,561
it impacted the way
people made movies.
519
00:25:04,586 --> 00:25:06,837
Especially the
beginning of the VHS,
520
00:25:06,862 --> 00:25:09,217
all the video
stores were private
521
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,803
they're just pop-ups.
522
00:25:10,826 --> 00:25:12,527
They had to buy product.
523
00:25:12,550 --> 00:25:17,550
So they would go out and buy
5000 VHS's for their store.
524
00:25:18,275 --> 00:25:18,942
What did they buy?
525
00:25:18,965 --> 00:25:20,355
Sex and horror.
526
00:25:20,378 --> 00:25:21,596
We cater to their demands.
527
00:25:21,619 --> 00:25:22,390
Whatever, they tell
us what they want,
528
00:25:22,413 --> 00:25:23,803
and we try to get it.
529
00:25:23,826 --> 00:25:25,423
And we have a large
horror section,
530
00:25:25,448 --> 00:25:27,837
and of course with real
heavy nude releases.
531
00:25:27,862 --> 00:25:29,733
We get a lot of films
called B movies.
532
00:25:29,758 --> 00:25:33,423
There's distributors who
were feeding that pipeline,
533
00:25:33,448 --> 00:25:36,000
and they needed somebody
to make the movies.
534
00:25:37,172 --> 00:25:40,009
Those movies, they
became products.
535
00:25:40,034 --> 00:25:42,136
They needed to fit
a certain mold.
536
00:25:43,344 --> 00:25:45,423
"Halloween" and
"Friday the 13th".
537
00:25:45,448 --> 00:25:47,976
These two films
dominated the box office,
538
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,976
and then they
dominated home video.
539
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,976
Once horror started
doing well on video,
540
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,067
that's when everybody
realized it very quickly.
541
00:25:57,481 --> 00:26:01,700
The 80s began the
period of crapola movies
542
00:26:01,723 --> 00:26:03,147
made straight for video,
543
00:26:03,172 --> 00:26:08,034
only to satisfy the
insatiable VHS market.
544
00:26:09,550 --> 00:26:12,355
It was just tons and
tons of new horror movies
545
00:26:12,378 --> 00:26:13,561
being made all the time,
546
00:26:13,586 --> 00:26:15,631
especially the super
low budget ones.
547
00:26:15,654 --> 00:26:17,976
I think everybody with
a camera and 10 bucks
548
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,034
made their own horror
movies back then.
549
00:26:21,619 --> 00:26:24,561
Companies, they were
also buying cheaper films
550
00:26:24,586 --> 00:26:28,182
that were independently
made to put in stores.
551
00:26:28,205 --> 00:26:30,344
And those were your
direct to video days.
552
00:26:31,895 --> 00:26:35,217
Shot on video brought
the price of making a film
553
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,664
down to $50,000, $40,000,
$30,000, and even less.
554
00:26:39,689 --> 00:26:42,250
You could make a movie on Monday
555
00:26:42,275 --> 00:26:44,664
and have it in the video
store by Wednesday.
556
00:26:44,689 --> 00:26:46,113
You didn't need a big studio.
557
00:26:46,136 --> 00:26:49,078
You didn't need to go begging
for someone to produce it.
558
00:26:49,103 --> 00:26:51,078
You could just make your project
559
00:26:51,103 --> 00:26:52,561
and put it out there on video,
560
00:26:52,586 --> 00:26:54,837
which I did many,
many, many times.
561
00:26:54,862 --> 00:26:56,976
Hello darling, and
welcome to another
562
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,319
fabulous Thriller Video.
563
00:26:59,344 --> 00:27:00,837
Thriller Video.
564
00:27:00,862 --> 00:27:02,527
We had a collection
of horror movies
565
00:27:02,550 --> 00:27:05,044
that were kind of
old and tired and bad
566
00:27:05,067 --> 00:27:06,527
that nobody wanted to see,
567
00:27:06,550 --> 00:27:08,906
so I did my wraparound
thing on them,
568
00:27:08,931 --> 00:27:10,631
and we released them to video,
569
00:27:10,654 --> 00:27:13,205
and they sold like hotcakes.
570
00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:17,700
Now this one's in kind
of a different vein,
571
00:27:17,723 --> 00:27:19,113
jugular vein, that is.
572
00:27:19,136 --> 00:27:21,527
There were more
distribution companies
573
00:27:21,550 --> 00:27:23,000
than you could count.
574
00:27:24,826 --> 00:27:26,906
Jack Valenti, the
head of the MPAA,
575
00:27:26,931 --> 00:27:29,492
was whining that video cassettes
576
00:27:29,517 --> 00:27:31,769
would destroy copyright law.
577
00:27:31,792 --> 00:27:34,802
The studios wouldn't
license their stuff.
578
00:27:34,826 --> 00:27:38,078
They saw video as
being a threat.
579
00:27:38,103 --> 00:27:41,078
So there was open field
for anybody who wanted
580
00:27:41,103 --> 00:27:43,250
to start a company.
581
00:27:43,275 --> 00:27:46,275
Charlie Band took
advantage of it the most.
582
00:27:47,586 --> 00:27:50,355
Charles Band was a
pioneer in this time,
583
00:27:50,378 --> 00:27:52,906
creating multiple labels,
putting these films
584
00:27:52,931 --> 00:27:54,103
in video stores.
585
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,078
This is a tough business,
586
00:27:57,103 --> 00:27:58,906
but every business
is challenging.
587
00:27:58,931 --> 00:28:01,654
It was rental that
made the thing explode
588
00:28:02,862 --> 00:28:04,286
Come to the warehouse,
589
00:28:04,309 --> 00:28:05,458
and rent the hit movies you
want when you want them.
590
00:28:05,481 --> 00:28:07,631
Around 1982 is
when the video stores
591
00:28:07,654 --> 00:28:10,664
started doing way, way better.
592
00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:15,319
By 1985 there was around
12,000 video stores
593
00:28:15,344 --> 00:28:16,906
in the United States.
594
00:28:16,931 --> 00:28:18,355
You can
now rent a video overnight,
595
00:28:18,378 --> 00:28:21,872
and hire these great
movies from only 99 cents.
596
00:28:21,895 --> 00:28:26,733
Close to the late 80s,
there was around 40,000 places
597
00:28:26,758 --> 00:28:29,631
that were renting tapes,
so this was a huge impact
598
00:28:29,654 --> 00:28:31,733
for the horror
genre, because people
599
00:28:31,758 --> 00:28:33,286
were renting horror films.
600
00:28:33,309 --> 00:28:36,802
Tapes around that
time weren't $5.
601
00:28:36,826 --> 00:28:38,388
They weren't $2.
602
00:28:38,413 --> 00:28:42,906
They were typically
49.95 up to $100.
603
00:28:42,931 --> 00:28:47,931
So if you had 40,000 stores
buying at least one tape,
604
00:28:49,067 --> 00:28:51,044
you were lining your
pockets full of money.
605
00:28:51,067 --> 00:28:53,136
And this was a million
dollar industry.
606
00:28:54,275 --> 00:28:56,941
And a lot of video
labels had either one
607
00:28:56,964 --> 00:28:59,733
to maybe 20 titles
in their catalog,
608
00:28:59,758 --> 00:29:01,009
but that's all they needed,
609
00:29:01,034 --> 00:29:02,976
because it was
millions of dollars
610
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,423
that they were making.
611
00:29:04,448 --> 00:29:06,527
And then they started
producing their own stuff,
612
00:29:06,550 --> 00:29:08,492
giving filmmakers $50,000,
613
00:29:08,517 --> 00:29:10,286
because they knew that they
were gonna make millions
614
00:29:10,309 --> 00:29:11,596
selling to video stores,
615
00:29:11,619 --> 00:29:13,826
so it just revolutionized
everything.
616
00:29:16,723 --> 00:29:20,113
Troma became a staple
of the home video market,
617
00:29:20,136 --> 00:29:23,182
because we had accumulated
about 60 movies.
618
00:29:23,205 --> 00:29:24,837
We wanted to own our movies,
619
00:29:24,862 --> 00:29:26,423
we wanted to own all the rights,
620
00:29:26,448 --> 00:29:30,596
and we wanted to have a
collection, have a library.
621
00:29:30,619 --> 00:29:34,689
The theory behind Troma
was to own your negatives.
622
00:29:35,895 --> 00:29:38,837
Lloyd Kaufman, Charlie
Band, and Roger Corman,
623
00:29:38,862 --> 00:29:41,388
they were businessmen,
but they were filmmakers.
624
00:29:41,413 --> 00:29:44,319
Those core three are
definitely a huge, huge reason
625
00:29:44,344 --> 00:29:49,344
why the direct to video horror
was so impactful and huge.
626
00:29:50,448 --> 00:29:51,631
As the 80s started winding down,
627
00:29:51,654 --> 00:29:54,596
like every business,
it starts monopolizing.
628
00:29:54,619 --> 00:29:58,631
By the 90s, you had
Blockbuster reading scripts
629
00:29:58,654 --> 00:30:01,182
to give so much shelf space.
630
00:30:01,205 --> 00:30:03,044
Any time there's
a new technology,
631
00:30:03,067 --> 00:30:05,631
the majors, the
oligopoly, the cartel,
632
00:30:05,654 --> 00:30:08,803
throws a monkey wrench into
it, tries to screw it up,
633
00:30:08,826 --> 00:30:10,906
and then they take it over,
which is what happened
634
00:30:10,931 --> 00:30:14,388
with video cassette, Blockbuster
put all the independents
635
00:30:14,413 --> 00:30:15,906
out of business.
636
00:30:15,931 --> 00:30:17,941
♪ Wow what a difference
637
00:30:17,964 --> 00:30:19,527
♪ Blockbuster video
638
00:30:19,550 --> 00:30:22,044
I've never seen 10,000
tapes in one store.
639
00:30:22,067 --> 00:30:24,423
We can really, really
thank the mom and pop stores
640
00:30:24,448 --> 00:30:28,113
out there, because they
carried the really interesting
641
00:30:28,136 --> 00:30:30,423
innovative films that were
out there during the 80s,
642
00:30:30,448 --> 00:30:33,078
films that someone like
Blockbuster wouldn't touch
643
00:30:33,103 --> 00:30:34,561
with a 10 foot pole.
644
00:30:34,586 --> 00:30:36,802
And Blockbuster sure didn't
have that little room
645
00:30:36,826 --> 00:30:39,689
with the fancy
movies back there.
646
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,388
Today you can go out and
make a movie for no money.
647
00:30:43,413 --> 00:30:46,355
I mean, the world has
changed dramatically.
648
00:30:46,378 --> 00:30:49,527
It's still in the story you
tell, if it's compelling,
649
00:30:49,550 --> 00:30:50,906
I mean, whatever the medium is,
650
00:30:50,931 --> 00:30:52,906
you need to be able
to tell a story,
651
00:30:52,931 --> 00:30:55,388
and put it together in
a format that people,
652
00:30:55,413 --> 00:30:57,941
whether they're gonna
rent or buy or download
653
00:30:57,964 --> 00:31:00,631
or view for free,
find entertaining.
654
00:31:00,654 --> 00:31:02,586
That part has not
changed at all.
655
00:31:18,895 --> 00:31:20,561
"Fear No Evil".
656
00:31:20,586 --> 00:31:23,286
It'll scare the
devil out of you.
657
00:31:23,309 --> 00:31:25,596
"Fear No Evil" is
thematically in the vein
658
00:31:25,619 --> 00:31:27,009
of a lot of these
films in the 1980s
659
00:31:27,034 --> 00:31:29,319
where it's like a guy
who gets picked on
660
00:31:29,344 --> 00:31:31,147
has been underestimated.
661
00:31:31,172 --> 00:31:32,492
Be careful who you pick on,
662
00:31:32,517 --> 00:31:34,550
because he might
be the Antichrist.
663
00:31:39,136 --> 00:31:42,286
"Fear No Evil" is
a hormonal overload.
664
00:31:42,309 --> 00:31:43,872
I mean, come on.
665
00:31:43,895 --> 00:31:45,250
High school's hard enough
without the inconvenience
666
00:31:45,275 --> 00:31:47,344
of demonic possession, right?
667
00:31:49,931 --> 00:31:51,527
"Fear No Evil" is like
if Damien from "The Omen"
668
00:31:51,550 --> 00:31:53,964
was in high school,
and was pretty gay.
669
00:31:56,826 --> 00:31:59,286
"Fear No Evil" was really
my coming of age story
670
00:31:59,309 --> 00:32:02,078
in a lot of ways, and
so all that angst,
671
00:32:02,103 --> 00:32:05,103
all of that confusion is
reflected in the film.
672
00:32:06,344 --> 00:32:07,769
There's this scene
in "Fear No Evil",
673
00:32:07,792 --> 00:32:10,700
it's a locker room scene, which
it's definitely the source
674
00:32:10,723 --> 00:32:12,561
of a lot of anxiety
for a lot of people.
675
00:32:12,586 --> 00:32:15,976
This scene is like,
ooh, very cringey.
676
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,941
Only the most
uncomfortable high school
677
00:32:17,964 --> 00:32:19,931
shower scene since "Carrie".
678
00:32:22,550 --> 00:32:23,388
Plug it up!
679
00:32:23,413 --> 00:32:24,413
Plug it up!
680
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,286
Tony goes in to kiss Andrew,
681
00:32:28,309 --> 00:32:31,492
and then Andrew uses
his special devil powers
682
00:32:31,517 --> 00:32:33,113
to make the kiss last longer.
683
00:32:33,136 --> 00:32:34,147
Like, that's his big revenge.
684
00:32:34,172 --> 00:32:36,000
It's like, make the bully gayer.
685
00:32:37,136 --> 00:32:39,906
It's Andrew who's
compelling this,
686
00:32:39,931 --> 00:32:43,448
but Tony's latent homosexuality,
687
00:32:45,172 --> 00:32:46,664
I mean, he hates women, right?
688
00:32:46,689 --> 00:32:48,388
This guy, this thug, Tony.
689
00:32:48,413 --> 00:32:49,976
He's a bully, you know?
690
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,631
Lots of these
bullies are, right?
691
00:32:51,654 --> 00:32:53,733
They can't face
their own sexuality,
692
00:32:53,758 --> 00:32:56,113
and so they take it out
on others in this manner.
693
00:32:56,136 --> 00:32:59,182
Look, if you don't keep your
mouth shut about this, right?
694
00:32:59,205 --> 00:33:00,733
Guess where that was shot?
695
00:33:00,758 --> 00:33:02,664
At my old junior high school.
696
00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:04,664
First day of the
shoot, what I do.
697
00:33:04,689 --> 00:33:07,596
We go in there, we shoot
this, the shower scene.
698
00:33:07,619 --> 00:33:10,423
Get in there with all these
naked guys in the shower,
699
00:33:10,448 --> 00:33:11,872
they're kissing.
700
00:33:11,895 --> 00:33:13,355
They didn't know anything
about it, of course,
701
00:33:13,378 --> 00:33:14,792
until the film was released.
702
00:33:15,931 --> 00:33:17,792
Come on, come on!
703
00:33:19,034 --> 00:33:20,596
I mean, it has a
nice gothic feel.
704
00:33:20,619 --> 00:33:25,034
I wanted it to have
a Hammer Horror feel.
705
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,700
The iconography.
706
00:33:29,723 --> 00:33:32,388
I mean it's so frightening.
707
00:33:32,413 --> 00:33:35,895
All the iconography
surrounding Catholicism.
708
00:33:39,792 --> 00:33:44,792
We raised, ultimately,
540,000 to make the picture.
709
00:33:45,964 --> 00:33:47,147
We had no money to
finish the film,
710
00:33:47,172 --> 00:33:50,044
and I was concerned
that if we got a bite
711
00:33:50,067 --> 00:33:53,250
from a distributor,
that that would be it.
712
00:33:53,275 --> 00:33:55,527
I'd lose control of the picture.
713
00:33:55,550 --> 00:33:56,664
Damn you!
714
00:33:56,689 --> 00:33:58,286
Avco Embassy.
715
00:33:58,309 --> 00:34:01,976
They were the boutique
low budget horror
distribution house.
716
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,664
They had control, total
control, over the final cut,
717
00:34:04,689 --> 00:34:06,631
but they made me make the edits
718
00:34:06,654 --> 00:34:09,112
with an editor that was
assigned to the picture,
719
00:34:09,137 --> 00:34:11,355
and it was horrendous,
because little by little
720
00:34:11,378 --> 00:34:14,655
I saw it restructured,
reorganized, chopped up.
721
00:34:16,068 --> 00:34:19,251
The picture that at best
works in fits and starts.
722
00:34:19,275 --> 00:34:21,802
But what really kills me
is I've read some things
723
00:34:21,827 --> 00:34:24,664
about it being
possibly homophobic.
724
00:34:24,688 --> 00:34:28,976
It's anything but
that, in my estimation.
725
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,413
I mean, it's a coming
of age story, right?
726
00:34:32,585 --> 00:34:34,596
The people that are
particularly inclined
727
00:34:34,619 --> 00:34:36,733
to love "Fear No Evil" are gay.
728
00:34:36,757 --> 00:34:39,940
They consider it campy
enough to have fun with,
729
00:34:39,965 --> 00:34:44,079
or it genuinely moves
them as to their own
730
00:34:44,103 --> 00:34:46,172
coming out struggles.
731
00:34:58,724 --> 00:35:01,492
Unlike "Jaws", where
you're not safe in the water,
732
00:35:01,516 --> 00:35:04,655
this one, you're not safe
if you're on the beach.
733
00:35:10,516 --> 00:35:11,425
"Blood Beach".
734
00:35:11,449 --> 00:35:12,940
The tagline says it all.
735
00:35:12,965 --> 00:35:15,976
Just when you thought it was
safe to go back in the water,
736
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,492
you can't get to it.
737
00:35:17,516 --> 00:35:18,871
It's great to see John Saxon
738
00:35:18,896 --> 00:35:20,251
from "A Nightmare
on Elm Street",
739
00:35:20,275 --> 00:35:22,768
and Burt Young, who's
Paulie from "Rocky",
740
00:35:22,793 --> 00:35:24,217
trying to solve this mystery.
741
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:26,043
He was foolish
enough to lie down
742
00:35:26,068 --> 00:35:27,940
on this particular beach.
743
00:35:27,965 --> 00:35:30,275
Never would've
happened in Chicago.
744
00:35:31,688 --> 00:35:32,940
Yeah, one more remark
like that out of your mouth,
745
00:35:32,965 --> 00:35:34,181
Chicago's where you're gonna be.
746
00:35:34,206 --> 00:35:36,630
It's a charming movie,
and it has a real moody,
747
00:35:36,655 --> 00:35:39,423
beachy feel, from
the opening credits
748
00:35:39,447 --> 00:35:43,757
with this lingering monster
POV vision under the pier.
749
00:35:45,206 --> 00:35:46,976
A $2 million union movie.
750
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,079
Jeffrey Bloom wrote
and directed it.
751
00:35:49,103 --> 00:35:50,724
The coolest guy of all time.
752
00:35:52,619 --> 00:35:54,976
The way our monster that
traveled through the sand,
753
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,043
we did this movie 10
years before "Tremors".
754
00:35:58,068 --> 00:35:59,802
Please help!
755
00:35:59,827 --> 00:36:00,965
Oh god!
756
00:36:04,585 --> 00:36:05,389
Oh god!
757
00:36:05,414 --> 00:36:06,630
What is happening?
758
00:36:06,655 --> 00:36:07,597
Help!
759
00:36:07,621 --> 00:36:08,838
That's me, and the effects guy
760
00:36:08,862 --> 00:36:11,596
yanking those people
under the sand.
761
00:36:11,619 --> 00:36:14,217
We got a tractor out
there on the beach
762
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,492
by the Santa Monica Pier,
763
00:36:16,516 --> 00:36:19,251
and we dug a big pit,
and we built a big
764
00:36:19,275 --> 00:36:21,664
rubber membrane
with a slit in it,
765
00:36:21,688 --> 00:36:24,838
and he and I, down in the pit,
766
00:36:24,862 --> 00:36:28,355
and when they are acting,
and flailing around,
767
00:36:28,378 --> 00:36:30,423
they are kicking like crazy.
768
00:36:30,447 --> 00:36:32,596
And we are grabbing
onto them like crazy,
769
00:36:32,619 --> 00:36:35,940
yanking them under.
770
00:36:35,965 --> 00:36:37,378
Ah, it was so much fun.
771
00:36:45,206 --> 00:36:47,251
The monster didn't
turn out that great.
772
00:36:47,275 --> 00:36:50,079
The effects guy, bless
his heart, did his best.
773
00:36:50,103 --> 00:36:52,458
I know the director
was not happy with it.
774
00:36:52,481 --> 00:36:55,527
But, you know, like not
showing the shark in "Jaws",
775
00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:57,724
it worked to an advantage.
776
00:37:00,344 --> 00:37:03,838
We built all these sets
onstage at Culver City Studios,
777
00:37:03,862 --> 00:37:07,010
where this monster lived, and
it was all supposed to look
778
00:37:07,034 --> 00:37:08,527
like Santa Monica
Pier, and whatnot,
779
00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:10,043
but I brought
seaweed in my trunk
780
00:37:10,068 --> 00:37:12,112
and threw the seaweed
behind the stage.
781
00:37:12,137 --> 00:37:13,931
Begins to take on the shape,
782
00:37:15,516 --> 00:37:16,976
where it slept.
783
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,217
I think Smell-O-Vision is a
very important part of sets.
784
00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,355
You don't want it to
smell like latex paint.
785
00:37:21,378 --> 00:37:23,664
We want it to smell like
whatever it's supposed
786
00:37:23,688 --> 00:37:24,494
to smell like.
787
00:37:24,518 --> 00:37:25,793
It really helped.
788
00:37:27,034 --> 00:37:29,527
I ended up with the
monster on my ranch,
789
00:37:29,550 --> 00:37:32,320
where my nieces and nephews
played in it for years
790
00:37:32,344 --> 00:37:34,043
until it slowly withered away.
791
00:37:34,068 --> 00:37:36,527
I saved its head in
my monster collection.
792
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:39,768
But that's the sorry end of
the "Blood Beach" monster.
793
00:37:39,793 --> 00:37:41,079
It's also one of
those lost movies.
794
00:37:41,103 --> 00:37:44,043
It came out on VHS,
and then that's it.
795
00:37:44,068 --> 00:37:47,010
It's legendary for
being caught in limbo,
796
00:37:47,034 --> 00:37:50,251
rights-wise, and
residual payment-wise.
797
00:37:50,275 --> 00:37:52,010
Jeffrey Bloom, the
director, told me,
798
00:37:52,034 --> 00:37:54,320
I don't think he's ever made
any money off the picture,
799
00:37:54,344 --> 00:37:56,355
and he wrote and directed it.
800
00:37:56,378 --> 00:37:58,976
It's really a
mishmash of problems.
801
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,389
I'd love to see that reissued,
802
00:38:00,413 --> 00:38:03,148
somehow, if somebody
could untangle the issues
803
00:38:03,172 --> 00:38:05,240
surrounding poor
old "Blood Beach".
804
00:38:15,378 --> 00:38:16,182
Oh, "The Hand".
805
00:38:16,206 --> 00:38:17,378
Oh my god.
806
00:38:19,793 --> 00:38:23,976
Michael Caine in "The Hand".
807
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,458
It could have been so not good,
808
00:38:25,481 --> 00:38:28,596
because it's about an artist
whose hand gets cut off,
809
00:38:28,619 --> 00:38:31,423
and the hand goes
around committing crimes
810
00:38:31,447 --> 00:38:35,768
that he's trying not to commit.
811
00:38:35,793 --> 00:38:37,688
The hand goes and does it.
812
00:38:43,896 --> 00:38:46,148
Oliver Stone, he had
gotten a lot of notice
813
00:38:46,172 --> 00:38:48,320
with "Midnight Express".
814
00:38:48,344 --> 00:38:53,344
And he thought "The Hand"
was gonna be a major movie.
815
00:38:56,206 --> 00:38:59,389
Made and released
by a major studio,
816
00:38:59,413 --> 00:39:02,112
but it had this really hopped up
817
00:39:02,137 --> 00:39:06,148
kind of exploitation tone to it
818
00:39:06,172 --> 00:39:08,838
that was very Corman.
819
00:39:08,862 --> 00:39:12,965
It just was really
intense and outrageous.
820
00:39:15,344 --> 00:39:18,355
I rented it as a kid
because I knew it dealt
821
00:39:18,378 --> 00:39:23,378
with comic books, and
like a phantom appendage.
822
00:39:24,793 --> 00:39:27,492
So there's this guy on the
verge of a nervous breakdown,
823
00:39:27,516 --> 00:39:30,940
I guess, and he is
a comic book artist,
824
00:39:30,965 --> 00:39:34,079
like a famous, established
comic book artist.
825
00:39:34,103 --> 00:39:36,217
His marriage is on the rocks.
826
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:37,838
There's this scene,
827
00:39:37,862 --> 00:39:39,976
as a kid, it was
really horrific.
828
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,871
It's Michael Caine, you know,
one of our greatest actors,
829
00:39:42,896 --> 00:39:44,793
squirting blood
all over the place.
830
00:39:48,655 --> 00:39:51,181
Anybody who messes
with Michael Caine
831
00:39:51,206 --> 00:39:52,240
gets the hand.
832
00:39:55,034 --> 00:39:57,010
Killing anybody that's
standing in the way
833
00:39:57,034 --> 00:39:58,034
of his mission.
834
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,688
Or is it?
835
00:40:05,965 --> 00:40:08,561
He doesn't know if he's insane,
836
00:40:08,585 --> 00:40:11,827
or there really is a
disembodied hand chasing him.
837
00:40:13,034 --> 00:40:14,871
Michael Caine's
a terrific actor,
838
00:40:14,896 --> 00:40:18,043
but he went through a
period where he never saw
839
00:40:18,068 --> 00:40:19,862
a paycheck he didn't like.
840
00:40:21,275 --> 00:40:22,976
They call it the Michael
Caine School of Acting,
841
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,275
you know, when you
get a role, take it.
842
00:40:28,378 --> 00:40:31,802
Even if the material
isn't good, he delivered.
843
00:40:31,827 --> 00:40:33,516
I think that at least you-
844
00:40:36,344 --> 00:40:37,344
I think.
845
00:40:38,827 --> 00:40:40,043
You should get out of here.
846
00:40:40,068 --> 00:40:43,320
And it always elevated
every movie he was in.
847
00:40:43,344 --> 00:40:46,458
It's from a book called
"The Lizard's Tail".
848
00:40:46,481 --> 00:40:49,010
We struggled for
many, many months
849
00:40:49,034 --> 00:40:53,217
playing with that idea of
what is the sound of the hand?
850
00:40:53,240 --> 00:40:54,733
Does it breathe?
851
00:40:54,757 --> 00:40:57,630
Is it just fingernail
sounds when it's crawling?
852
00:40:57,655 --> 00:40:59,423
Because whenever
the hand approached,
853
00:40:59,447 --> 00:41:01,940
we wanted to get into
that sound design moment
854
00:41:01,965 --> 00:41:04,320
of the universe, the
sound universe changes.
855
00:41:04,344 --> 00:41:07,217
And we brought in a
team of trained actors
856
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,940
who would do group
vocalizations,
857
00:41:09,965 --> 00:41:14,181
but we had them do what
we called Fellini-esque
858
00:41:14,206 --> 00:41:17,976
vocalizations, so we did
weird breathing patterns,
859
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,550
and freeform screaming.
860
00:41:26,931 --> 00:41:29,103
It's really, really cool stuff.
861
00:41:33,481 --> 00:41:35,561
For a disembodied hand movie,
it's quite well-written.
862
00:41:35,585 --> 00:41:38,423
As I used to say in
marketing the movie,
863
00:41:38,447 --> 00:41:41,251
it's one of the best
disembodied hand movies ever.
864
00:41:41,275 --> 00:41:43,768
What happened to the hand?
865
00:41:43,793 --> 00:41:45,585
Oh, mommy went to look for it.
866
00:41:47,413 --> 00:41:48,413
But it ran away.
867
00:41:55,724 --> 00:41:57,355
"Bloody Birthday".
868
00:41:57,378 --> 00:41:59,871
A terrifying journey
into the bizarre.
869
00:41:59,896 --> 00:42:02,079
Will you get out alive?
870
00:42:02,103 --> 00:42:05,010
Three kids are born at
the same time in a hospital
871
00:42:05,034 --> 00:42:06,827
during an eclipse.
872
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:10,148
It's a boy, Mrs. Taylor!
873
00:42:10,172 --> 00:42:12,940
And for some reason,
this has astrologically
874
00:42:12,965 --> 00:42:14,458
made them evil.
875
00:42:14,481 --> 00:42:17,965
When they get to be 10, they
sort of go on killing spree.
876
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:28,768
It plays on the fear
of how scary kids can be,
877
00:42:28,793 --> 00:42:31,423
especially if they
don't have the influence
878
00:42:31,447 --> 00:42:33,802
of discipline, and adults.
879
00:42:33,827 --> 00:42:36,561
Like that scene with the cake.
880
00:42:36,585 --> 00:42:38,010
That's terrifying.
881
00:42:38,034 --> 00:42:40,768
He's trying to make her think
882
00:42:40,793 --> 00:42:42,940
that he's poisoning the cake.
883
00:42:42,965 --> 00:42:45,137
The poison was just
sitting on the counter.
884
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,976
I was putting it away.
885
00:42:47,001 --> 00:42:48,251
You were not, you little liar!
886
00:42:48,275 --> 00:42:51,251
That scene is so messed up,
887
00:42:51,275 --> 00:42:54,286
because he knows what
he's doing as a child,
888
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:58,217
and taking advantage of
his seemingly innocence
889
00:42:58,240 --> 00:42:59,965
for his own benefit.
890
00:43:04,034 --> 00:43:07,148
Debbie, she's a
horrible little child.
891
00:43:07,172 --> 00:43:08,389
I just love her as a villain.
892
00:43:08,413 --> 00:43:10,043
Can you and Timmy
come over to babysit?
893
00:43:10,068 --> 00:43:11,286
Sure.
894
00:43:11,309 --> 00:43:12,286
What time do you
want me to come over?
895
00:43:12,311 --> 00:43:13,768
11 o'clock.
896
00:43:13,793 --> 00:43:15,010
Okay.
897
00:43:15,034 --> 00:43:17,355
My little sister
is selling tickets
898
00:43:17,378 --> 00:43:21,699
to watch me, you
know, get naked.
899
00:43:21,724 --> 00:43:24,733
I was very young, it was
one of my first years
900
00:43:24,757 --> 00:43:26,148
as an actress.
901
00:43:26,172 --> 00:43:28,423
So many actresses, especially
at that time in the 80s,
902
00:43:28,447 --> 00:43:30,492
that they had some sort of film
903
00:43:30,516 --> 00:43:33,871
where they had to be naked or
topless or something, right?
904
00:43:33,896 --> 00:43:35,871
It wasn't that uncommon.
905
00:43:35,896 --> 00:43:37,940
So I thought, okay.
906
00:43:37,965 --> 00:43:42,389
I wasn't gonna, like, be
topless in the audition.
907
00:43:42,413 --> 00:43:45,389
So they said, well, we
need to see your boobs.
908
00:43:45,413 --> 00:43:46,733
And I'm like, why?
909
00:43:46,757 --> 00:43:47,666
And they go, because
what if you have
910
00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:48,699
a weird boob or something?
911
00:43:48,724 --> 00:43:50,148
So I took my top
off in the room,
912
00:43:50,172 --> 00:43:51,458
and I took a Polaroid.
913
00:43:51,481 --> 00:43:53,527
And then they let the
director look at it,
914
00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:54,931
and they gave it back to me.
915
00:43:56,619 --> 00:43:58,630
I don't know how
other girls are cast
916
00:43:58,655 --> 00:44:01,206
for topless things, but
that's what happened to me.
917
00:44:02,688 --> 00:44:05,976
And there's a little hole
between the closet and her room,
918
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,802
and I look in there, and
then they hit me in the eye
919
00:44:08,827 --> 00:44:11,172
with an arrow, and
that's how I die.
920
00:44:16,965 --> 00:44:18,907
They're dragging
my dead body around
921
00:44:18,931 --> 00:44:20,251
for a big portion of it.
922
00:44:20,275 --> 00:44:22,688
And that's depressing.
923
00:44:25,172 --> 00:44:26,492
And at first I
wouldn't talk about it,
924
00:44:26,516 --> 00:44:29,320
but then I thought,
really, who cares?
925
00:44:29,344 --> 00:44:30,838
Right?
926
00:44:30,862 --> 00:44:33,034
Even though honestly my
son doesn't know about it,
927
00:44:33,896 --> 00:44:34,838
and he's never seen it.
928
00:44:34,862 --> 00:44:36,492
So.
929
00:44:36,516 --> 00:44:37,699
Debbie?
930
00:44:37,724 --> 00:44:38,724
What's wrong, Debbie?
931
00:44:40,344 --> 00:44:42,940
"Bloody Birthday" wasn't
well-received at all
932
00:44:42,965 --> 00:44:45,630
when it came out,
because of the fact that
933
00:44:45,655 --> 00:44:47,148
these were evil kids.
934
00:44:47,172 --> 00:44:48,630
People would get so offended
935
00:44:48,655 --> 00:44:51,976
by all the sexual and violent
situations placed in it,
936
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,447
but the kids were actually
having a great time,
937
00:44:55,378 --> 00:44:56,286
and they thought
it was playtime,
938
00:44:56,311 --> 00:44:59,181
and that was comforting to know,
939
00:44:59,206 --> 00:45:01,148
because we wouldn't want
them to be traumatized
940
00:45:01,172 --> 00:45:02,492
at all by the experience.
941
00:45:02,516 --> 00:45:05,931
Does anybody know what
the word murder means?
942
00:45:13,827 --> 00:45:16,275
Pray you're not invited.
943
00:45:17,550 --> 00:45:20,768
If you get a great
image on the cover,
944
00:45:20,793 --> 00:45:21,976
that's half the battle.
945
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,423
And when you see that
guy with his mouth open,
946
00:45:23,447 --> 00:45:25,630
and the skewer, the
shish kabob is going in,
947
00:45:25,655 --> 00:45:27,112
like, I'm in.
948
00:45:27,137 --> 00:45:29,181
And Melissa Sue
Anderson, who is from
949
00:45:29,206 --> 00:45:30,619
Little House on the Prairie.
950
00:45:31,793 --> 00:45:35,664
This was gonna be her
big moment as an adult,
951
00:45:35,688 --> 00:45:39,481
playing a high school
girl in a slasher flick.
952
00:45:40,413 --> 00:45:42,010
This was more like the tail end
953
00:45:42,034 --> 00:45:44,355
of the holiday murder movies,
954
00:45:44,378 --> 00:45:46,320
so people were still
taking it seriously.
955
00:45:46,344 --> 00:45:48,655
They were like okay, we're
gonna ride this wave.
956
00:45:50,068 --> 00:45:51,733
This could be a massive hit,
957
00:45:51,757 --> 00:45:54,492
so let's really, really
go for it, you know?
958
00:45:54,516 --> 00:45:57,630
It's about this group of
kids at this elite school.
959
00:45:57,655 --> 00:45:59,596
The killer is one of
them, because every time
960
00:45:59,619 --> 00:46:01,976
someone gets killed,
it's like, oh it's you.
961
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,389
Virginia, who was kinda
new to this group,
962
00:46:04,413 --> 00:46:07,079
we slowly learn that
she has these holes
963
00:46:07,103 --> 00:46:08,010
in her memory.
964
00:46:08,034 --> 00:46:09,389
And today I remembered.
965
00:46:09,413 --> 00:46:10,630
Yes.
966
00:46:10,655 --> 00:46:13,251
And tomorrow, you
will remember more.
967
00:46:13,275 --> 00:46:14,079
Even the-
968
00:46:14,103 --> 00:46:15,286
Even the accident.
969
00:46:15,309 --> 00:46:16,940
Her friends are like,
they're disappearing
970
00:46:16,965 --> 00:46:18,585
more than dying.
971
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,010
So she has all this trauma
around her birthday,
972
00:46:22,034 --> 00:46:24,000
which should be a
moment of celebration.
973
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:26,802
Hi there.
974
00:46:26,827 --> 00:46:27,632
Rudy!
975
00:46:27,655 --> 00:46:28,838
Where have you been?
976
00:46:28,862 --> 00:46:30,871
Who's doing the killing?
977
00:46:30,896 --> 00:46:32,043
Is it her?
978
00:46:32,068 --> 00:46:33,413
Because she's messed up?
979
00:46:35,275 --> 00:46:36,148
Or is it not?
980
00:46:36,172 --> 00:46:37,664
Lighten up!
981
00:46:37,688 --> 00:46:39,320
You touch me again, I'm
gonna fucking kill you!
982
00:46:39,344 --> 00:46:41,079
And that's a very
real, tangible,
983
00:46:41,103 --> 00:46:46,103
real life fear, of having a
part of your whole memory gone.
984
00:46:47,481 --> 00:46:48,871
What happened
before the accident?
985
00:46:48,896 --> 00:46:51,458
You've got to try to remember.
986
00:46:51,481 --> 00:46:53,355
The kills are great.
987
00:46:53,378 --> 00:46:54,596
The gore is great.
988
00:46:54,619 --> 00:46:58,309
There's some very good
tense moments in it.
989
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:02,871
One of the classic
kills from this movie.
990
00:47:02,896 --> 00:47:04,010
We have Greg.
991
00:47:04,034 --> 00:47:06,103
He's doing his weights,
he's very strong.
992
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,940
Okay, that's it.
993
00:47:08,965 --> 00:47:13,275
Holds the weight above
his penis, and drops it.
994
00:47:16,619 --> 00:47:17,527
Greg is dead.
995
00:47:17,552 --> 00:47:18,976
From a weight to the peen.
996
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,688
Yup.
997
00:47:22,068 --> 00:47:23,733
I panicked!
998
00:47:23,757 --> 00:47:26,112
I came here, god I
thought you'd help me!
999
00:47:26,137 --> 00:47:27,699
So the ending of
"Happy Birthday" to me
1000
00:47:27,724 --> 00:47:29,733
is what stuck with me
1001
00:47:29,757 --> 00:47:33,802
all my life, because it's crazy.
1002
00:47:33,827 --> 00:47:38,423
♪ Happy birthday to me
1003
00:47:38,447 --> 00:47:42,103
♪ Happy birthday to me
1004
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,079
Pray for day.
1005
00:47:50,103 --> 00:47:51,527
"Hell Night".
1006
00:47:51,550 --> 00:47:53,355
One of my favorite
things about "Hell Night'"
1007
00:47:53,378 --> 00:47:55,768
is just being able
to see Linda Blair
1008
00:47:55,793 --> 00:47:56,802
do something different.
1009
00:47:56,827 --> 00:47:58,344
Who's she?
1010
00:47:59,757 --> 00:48:01,423
Oh, that's one
of the new pledges.
1011
00:48:01,447 --> 00:48:02,389
They call her Marty.
1012
00:48:02,414 --> 00:48:03,664
And it feels almost like,
1013
00:48:03,688 --> 00:48:05,976
what if Regan survives
after "The Exorcist",
1014
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,827
and she decides
to go to college?
1015
00:48:09,206 --> 00:48:10,423
She's gonna go and
be in a sorority,
1016
00:48:10,447 --> 00:48:11,596
and she's gonna have
this normal life,
1017
00:48:11,619 --> 00:48:12,871
and she ends up
stuck in this mansion
1018
00:48:12,896 --> 00:48:15,561
where it's like a
weird, mutant offspring.
1019
00:48:15,585 --> 00:48:18,527
It feels really unusual
compared to a lot
1020
00:48:18,550 --> 00:48:21,664
of the other sort of teen
and 20-something centric
1021
00:48:21,688 --> 00:48:25,458
horror movies that were
coming out in the early 1980s.
1022
00:48:25,481 --> 00:48:27,802
In 1850, Virgil Garth
built this mansion
1023
00:48:27,827 --> 00:48:29,733
with the gold that was
pouring out of his mines.
1024
00:48:29,757 --> 00:48:31,596
So they introduce
this whole backstory
1025
00:48:31,619 --> 00:48:34,079
about Garth Manor, and this
guy who kills his family,
1026
00:48:34,103 --> 00:48:36,940
like he kills his wife,
and he has mutated kids.
1027
00:48:36,965 --> 00:48:39,148
And then Raymond
Garth got a rope
1028
00:48:39,172 --> 00:48:40,655
and hung himself to death.
1029
00:48:42,309 --> 00:48:43,871
And then he hangs himself,
1030
00:48:43,896 --> 00:48:46,079
but two of the kids are missing.
1031
00:48:46,103 --> 00:48:48,871
It was like okay, we're gonna
throw a couple sorority girls
1032
00:48:48,896 --> 00:48:51,251
and a couple fraternity
brothers in a house overnight
1033
00:48:51,275 --> 00:48:52,596
and see what happens.
1034
00:48:52,619 --> 00:48:54,000
We'll see you four a dawn.
1035
00:48:56,965 --> 00:48:58,043
Just about six hours.
1036
00:48:58,068 --> 00:48:59,871
You have Peter
Barton and Linda Blair,
1037
00:48:59,896 --> 00:49:01,320
and they're sort of hanging out,
1038
00:49:01,344 --> 00:49:03,619
and then you've got
promiscuous gal,
1039
00:49:04,481 --> 00:49:05,733
and then the stoner surfer dude,
1040
00:49:05,757 --> 00:49:07,458
and they're gonna get
together and have fun.
1041
00:49:07,481 --> 00:49:08,838
Hey!
1042
00:49:08,862 --> 00:49:11,389
And then it evolves
into this whole
1043
00:49:11,413 --> 00:49:15,103
elaborate gothic
nightmare for them.
1044
00:49:19,619 --> 00:49:23,079
Peter Barton, he actually
did get hurt during the film,
1045
00:49:23,103 --> 00:49:24,802
so there's a lot of the
movie where you see him
1046
00:49:24,827 --> 00:49:26,355
limping around, but
that was very real.
1047
00:49:26,378 --> 00:49:29,585
That wasn't because of what
happened to his character.
1048
00:49:31,206 --> 00:49:32,148
No!
1049
00:49:32,172 --> 00:49:33,251
They couldn't stop filming,
1050
00:49:33,275 --> 00:49:34,733
so they just had
to push forward,
1051
00:49:34,757 --> 00:49:37,838
and he basically had to
work through an ankle injury
1052
00:49:37,862 --> 00:49:39,103
for like half the movie.
1053
00:49:40,344 --> 00:49:41,251
It's got some issues,
but I think ultimately,
1054
00:49:41,275 --> 00:49:42,630
"Hell Night" really stands out
1055
00:49:42,655 --> 00:49:45,320
in comparison to a lot
of other horror movies
1056
00:49:45,344 --> 00:49:48,000
that were coming out
around the same time.
1057
00:49:59,481 --> 00:50:01,664
A gem I discovered on
cable back in the 80s,
1058
00:50:01,688 --> 00:50:03,527
and that I push on
people as often as I can
1059
00:50:03,550 --> 00:50:05,010
is "The Unseen".
1060
00:50:05,034 --> 00:50:06,630
The terror is unleashed.
1061
00:50:06,655 --> 00:50:07,871
No!
1062
00:50:07,896 --> 00:50:09,976
The horror is unequal.
1063
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,768
"The Unseen".
1064
00:50:11,793 --> 00:50:14,871
"The Unseen" is about
an all-woman news crew
1065
00:50:14,896 --> 00:50:17,561
who are covering a festival
in Solvang California.
1066
00:50:17,585 --> 00:50:20,907
They screwed up, someone didn't
make a hotel reservation.
1067
00:50:20,931 --> 00:50:22,043
They have nowhere to stay.
1068
00:50:22,068 --> 00:50:24,112
They hit up this
museum where they find
1069
00:50:24,137 --> 00:50:28,010
the great Sydney Lassick, who
offers them a place to stay.
1070
00:50:28,034 --> 00:50:29,492
It's, it's not the Ritz,
1071
00:50:29,516 --> 00:50:32,079
but it'll run a close second.
1072
00:50:32,103 --> 00:50:32,942
Sure.
1073
00:50:32,965 --> 00:50:34,423
That's great.
1074
00:50:34,447 --> 00:50:35,389
The leader of this news
crew is Barbara Bach.
1075
00:50:35,414 --> 00:50:36,940
Of course, Mrs. Ringo Starr,
1076
00:50:36,965 --> 00:50:38,940
the Bond girl from
"The Spy Who Loved Me".
1077
00:50:38,965 --> 00:50:40,492
It's remarkable.
1078
00:50:40,516 --> 00:50:41,724
I'm impressed.
1079
00:50:42,550 --> 00:50:43,356
Scat.
1080
00:50:43,380 --> 00:50:44,940
Get off there, Ralph.
1081
00:50:44,965 --> 00:50:46,320
Sydney Lassick is one of
the great character actors
1082
00:50:46,344 --> 00:50:47,976
of the second half
of the 20th century.
1083
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,112
He was in "One Flew
Over the Cuckoo's Nest".
1084
00:50:50,137 --> 00:50:53,251
He was in "Alligator"
as the pet store owner.
1085
00:50:53,275 --> 00:50:54,492
He is off the chain.
1086
00:50:54,516 --> 00:50:55,527
He is just going
for it in this film.
1087
00:50:55,550 --> 00:50:57,481
Boo!
1088
00:51:00,275 --> 00:51:03,148
It's a delight to watch
him just chew the scenery.
1089
00:51:03,172 --> 00:51:05,724
Don't concern yourself
with that, Virginia.
1090
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,664
Just get the room ready.
1091
00:51:08,688 --> 00:51:10,010
The secret sauce of "The Unseen"
1092
00:51:10,034 --> 00:51:11,768
is that it's very,
very talented people
1093
00:51:11,793 --> 00:51:13,585
doing something
very, very unsavory.
1094
00:51:15,413 --> 00:51:18,802
Sydney Lassick's wife in
the film, Leila Goldoni,
1095
00:51:18,827 --> 00:51:21,561
and he have a couple
of very intense scenes
1096
00:51:21,585 --> 00:51:24,757
about a secret that they
have in their basement.
1097
00:51:26,172 --> 00:51:27,527
They could find out.
1098
00:51:27,550 --> 00:51:28,896
Don't worry, my dear.
1099
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,724
No one will ever find out.
1100
00:51:33,103 --> 00:51:35,630
Junior in the film is this
developmentally disabled
1101
00:51:35,655 --> 00:51:38,768
grown man wearing a diaper
living in the basement.
1102
00:51:38,793 --> 00:51:40,585
I see you've met Junior.
1103
00:51:41,931 --> 00:51:44,871
Played by Flounder
from "Animal House",
1104
00:51:44,896 --> 00:51:45,735
the late great Stephen Furst.
1105
00:51:45,759 --> 00:51:46,976
And you come to find out
1106
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:48,630
he's accidentally
killing these women
1107
00:51:48,655 --> 00:51:50,309
because he doesn't
know his own strength.
1108
00:51:54,550 --> 00:51:55,356
"The Unseen" is,
in a lot of ways,
1109
00:51:55,380 --> 00:51:56,802
not a defensible film.
1110
00:51:56,827 --> 00:51:58,664
Ingestion is not endorsement.
1111
00:51:58,688 --> 00:52:00,010
I enjoyed it despite
how wrong it is.
1112
00:52:00,034 --> 00:52:01,619
Boo!
1113
00:52:13,688 --> 00:52:15,976
"The Prowler" is a
stalk slasher plot
1114
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,251
with a group of kids getting
ready for a graduation party
1115
00:52:19,275 --> 00:52:21,112
and they're stalked and killed
1116
00:52:21,137 --> 00:52:23,871
by a mysterious
killer in a GI outfit,
1117
00:52:23,896 --> 00:52:25,206
in Cape May, New Jersey.
1118
00:52:29,585 --> 00:52:31,423
There's a little
historical thrill
1119
00:52:31,447 --> 00:52:33,217
to seeing Farley
Granger from "Rope"
1120
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:34,664
and "Strangers on a Train"
1121
00:52:34,688 --> 00:52:37,423
in an 80s slasher,
as like the sheriff
1122
00:52:37,447 --> 00:52:38,871
with a mysterious past.
1123
00:52:38,896 --> 00:52:40,492
Just some deodorant.
1124
00:52:40,516 --> 00:52:43,664
No sweat.
1125
00:52:43,688 --> 00:52:44,907
Get it?
1126
00:52:44,931 --> 00:52:47,112
That keeps you on
the edge of your seat.
1127
00:52:47,137 --> 00:52:49,699
You're just like, oh
god, he's right there.
1128
00:52:49,724 --> 00:52:51,619
Oh god, ugh, you know?
1129
00:52:55,137 --> 00:52:56,596
It's Savini at his best, man.
1130
00:52:56,619 --> 00:52:59,516
The kills are fucking
crazy, the gore is nuts.
1131
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,516
Tom Savini did some of
his best work in the film.
1132
00:53:07,724 --> 00:53:09,043
That kill scene in
the swimming pool
1133
00:53:09,068 --> 00:53:10,976
goes on forever.
1134
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,862
It's unbearable to watch.
1135
00:53:20,413 --> 00:53:22,976
Also one of the first
exploding heads.
1136
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,079
I don't think it was the
first exploding head,
1137
00:53:25,103 --> 00:53:26,965
but it was one of them.
1138
00:53:28,896 --> 00:53:33,389
It was the first pairing
of Savini and Zito,
1139
00:53:33,413 --> 00:53:36,378
who then went on to do
"Friday the 13th" part four.
1140
00:53:37,724 --> 00:53:39,768
Zito, man, say what you want,
1141
00:53:39,793 --> 00:53:41,309
but he had a great eye for it.
1142
00:53:47,688 --> 00:53:50,286
Putting aside George Romero's
relationship with Savini,
1143
00:53:50,309 --> 00:53:52,664
no director films
Tom Savini's kills
1144
00:53:52,688 --> 00:53:54,355
better than Jo Zito.
1145
00:53:54,378 --> 00:53:56,217
And I think that that
is front and center
1146
00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:57,458
of "The Prowler".
1147
00:53:57,481 --> 00:53:58,733
Not only how Savini
has designed them,
1148
00:53:58,757 --> 00:54:00,423
but that the director
has listened to Savini
1149
00:54:00,447 --> 00:54:02,827
in terms of how to
present those things.
1150
00:54:04,413 --> 00:54:06,217
There's something so
perverse about riffing
1151
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:07,699
on the "Psycho" shower scene,
1152
00:54:07,724 --> 00:54:09,148
but with a pitchfork.
1153
00:54:09,172 --> 00:54:11,492
It's bright lights,
nowhere to hide,
1154
00:54:11,516 --> 00:54:13,585
just in your face kills.
1155
00:54:17,068 --> 00:54:19,527
I was just following
what they needed to happen
1156
00:54:19,550 --> 00:54:20,802
in the film.
1157
00:54:20,827 --> 00:54:24,699
I wasn't concerned with
how they were shooting.
1158
00:54:24,724 --> 00:54:26,871
Joe Zito, we showed everything.
1159
00:54:26,896 --> 00:54:29,206
So there became an
appeal for that.
1160
00:54:30,481 --> 00:54:34,447
I rode that appeal in
the movies of the 80s.
1161
00:54:37,516 --> 00:54:39,251
For me, it's the guy with
the hand over the mouth
1162
00:54:39,275 --> 00:54:41,172
and he's getting the
bayonet in the head.
1163
00:54:43,344 --> 00:54:45,596
The way it's edited,
and the way it's timed,
1164
00:54:45,619 --> 00:54:46,976
and it's just
whites of the eyes.
1165
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,896
It's grizzly, and it
really, really works.
1166
00:54:52,655 --> 00:54:54,217
It's a magic trick, which
Savini's always said
1167
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:55,458
his effects are magic tricks,
1168
00:54:55,481 --> 00:54:58,309
but that one is like, bang on.
1169
00:55:13,344 --> 00:55:16,148
Indonesia produced
an interesting horror
film in the 80s
1170
00:55:16,172 --> 00:55:18,423
called "Mystics in Bali".
1171
00:55:18,447 --> 00:55:21,561
I'm surprised that
a pretty girl like you
1172
00:55:21,585 --> 00:55:23,733
would be interested in
learning black magic.
1173
00:55:23,757 --> 00:55:25,251
Well, I'm just curious.
1174
00:55:25,275 --> 00:55:27,112
It seems like a
bit of a fever dream,
1175
00:55:27,137 --> 00:55:28,355
what happens in this film.
1176
00:55:28,378 --> 00:55:31,079
But essentially,
it's about a woman
1177
00:55:31,103 --> 00:55:34,423
who wants to learn more
about the mystical stuff
1178
00:55:34,447 --> 00:55:35,976
that happens in
Indonesian culture.
1179
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,275
You'll never forget this face.
1180
00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:44,286
And they're looking
around for this mystic,
1181
00:55:44,309 --> 00:55:47,458
and what they see instead
is a 50 foot tongue
1182
00:55:47,481 --> 00:55:49,871
coming out of the forest,
which is incredible.
1183
00:55:49,896 --> 00:55:51,423
It's like a snake-like tongue.
1184
00:55:51,447 --> 00:55:54,630
And what happens is this
tongue imprints words,
1185
00:55:54,655 --> 00:55:56,458
the name of the
creatures, on her thigh,
1186
00:55:56,481 --> 00:55:57,907
and then things go
from bad to worse
1187
00:55:57,931 --> 00:56:00,112
from that point, where
this woman manifests
1188
00:56:00,137 --> 00:56:03,896
into this creature, but
it's absolutely batshit.
1189
00:56:06,724 --> 00:56:09,043
I'm very interested in the
mythology of this creature,
1190
00:56:09,068 --> 00:56:10,699
which is very much
like a manananggal,
1191
00:56:10,724 --> 00:56:14,976
because you see that across
all different Asian cultures.
1192
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,355
So she has the ability to
split her body in half,
1193
00:56:18,378 --> 00:56:20,389
and the top half of her torso,
1194
00:56:20,413 --> 00:56:22,699
with all the entrails
hanging out, can fly around,
1195
00:56:22,724 --> 00:56:25,286
and jump on people and
kill them and eat them
1196
00:56:25,309 --> 00:56:28,148
while the bottom half kind
of scuttles around the floor.
1197
00:56:28,172 --> 00:56:30,664
One of the most
interesting scenes in this,
1198
00:56:30,688 --> 00:56:34,733
and kind of gross, is when
this disembodied torso
1199
00:56:34,757 --> 00:56:37,664
goes between the legs
of a pregnant woman,
1200
00:56:37,688 --> 00:56:39,181
and then basically
eats her unborn baby.
1201
00:56:39,206 --> 00:56:41,103
It is nuts.
1202
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,699
Then it goes up a
level of nuttiness,
1203
00:56:47,724 --> 00:56:49,768
they call up the good
version of this mystic,
1204
00:56:49,793 --> 00:56:54,492
and they have this big battle
using magic and animation,
1205
00:56:54,516 --> 00:56:56,516
and it's very interesting.
1206
00:57:00,827 --> 00:57:03,112
The ultimate theme
of "Mystics in Bali"
1207
00:57:03,137 --> 00:57:04,802
really is curiosity
kills the cat,
1208
00:57:04,827 --> 00:57:07,043
because this woman wants
to know information
1209
00:57:07,068 --> 00:57:09,389
that she has no right knowing.
1210
00:57:09,413 --> 00:57:12,976
This supernatural stuff
is way too powerful
1211
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,217
for a normal person, and I
don't know why she thought
1212
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:18,079
that she could control
it, and harness it.
1213
00:57:18,103 --> 00:57:19,976
That particular
transgression ends up
1214
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,079
in the consequences
that befalls them
1215
00:57:22,103 --> 00:57:23,757
and everyone around them.
1216
00:57:36,275 --> 00:57:37,630
Now police have been skeptical
1217
00:57:37,655 --> 00:57:39,389
of investigating these acts,
1218
00:57:39,413 --> 00:57:41,389
just as we are in
reporting them,
1219
00:57:41,413 --> 00:57:42,389
but there's no
question that something
1220
00:57:42,414 --> 00:57:44,112
is going on out there.
1221
00:57:44,137 --> 00:57:45,940
When we think about the 1980s,
1222
00:57:45,965 --> 00:57:47,976
we think about the Reagan era,
1223
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,664
and a return to family values,
1224
00:57:49,688 --> 00:57:51,527
and there is
something in the air
1225
00:57:51,550 --> 00:57:53,389
about the way that
things should be.
1226
00:57:53,413 --> 00:57:56,010
There is sin and
evil in the world,
1227
00:57:56,034 --> 00:57:58,561
and we're enjoined by
scripture, and the lord Jesus
1228
00:57:58,585 --> 00:58:00,492
to oppose it with all our might.
1229
00:58:00,516 --> 00:58:03,802
Religious right somehow had
moved into the mainstream.
1230
00:58:03,827 --> 00:58:06,355
Demand those parties
and politicians
1231
00:58:06,378 --> 00:58:09,664
align themselves with the
eternal values in this book,
1232
00:58:09,688 --> 00:58:11,838
and America will be forever
1233
00:58:11,862 --> 00:58:13,827
the greatest nation
on this earth!
1234
00:58:15,034 --> 00:58:16,768
There was a lot of
stuff in the ether
1235
00:58:16,793 --> 00:58:20,699
as far as satanic cults
and the evangelicals.
1236
00:58:20,724 --> 00:58:23,561
Whether Satan exists
is a matter of belief,
1237
00:58:23,585 --> 00:58:25,561
but we are certain
that Satanism exists.
1238
00:58:25,585 --> 00:58:29,148
Their fears were sort
of in the zeitgeist.
1239
00:58:29,172 --> 00:58:30,344
Could it be?
1240
00:58:31,309 --> 00:58:33,481
Satan!
1241
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,561
Growing up in the 80s under
the veil of the satanic panic,
1242
00:58:37,585 --> 00:58:39,802
you know, we were all
convinced by the far right
1243
00:58:39,827 --> 00:58:43,010
that there were these
cultists out there,
1244
00:58:43,034 --> 00:58:46,976
meddling with the dark arts
to try and abduct us kids
1245
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,871
and suck us into their
covens to drink babies' blood
1246
00:58:50,896 --> 00:58:53,172
and perform witchcraft.
1247
00:58:54,757 --> 00:58:57,043
We were like, no, they're
just cool scary movies.
1248
00:58:57,068 --> 00:58:58,561
I'll do that when I grow up
1249
00:58:58,585 --> 00:59:00,699
and I have a house of my
own, thank you very much.
1250
00:59:00,724 --> 00:59:02,699
I dread going to
these kinds of movies.
1251
00:59:02,724 --> 00:59:05,181
It really has become
the most depressing part
1252
00:59:05,206 --> 00:59:06,561
of my job as a film critic.
1253
00:59:06,585 --> 00:59:08,733
And there we are,
in total agreement.
1254
00:59:08,757 --> 00:59:10,079
In the UK and here in the US,
1255
00:59:10,103 --> 00:59:12,181
the census definitely
clamped down
1256
00:59:12,206 --> 00:59:14,733
on what was allowed, what
was acceptable content.
1257
00:59:14,757 --> 00:59:16,079
Half of American households
1258
00:59:16,103 --> 00:59:18,320
now have video
cassette recorders,
1259
00:59:18,344 --> 00:59:20,389
and for many children,
they're a ticket
1260
00:59:20,413 --> 00:59:22,802
to R-rated gore that
the kids are too young
1261
00:59:22,827 --> 00:59:24,251
to see at the movies.
1262
00:59:24,275 --> 00:59:26,699
There were a lot of
city people running around
1263
00:59:26,724 --> 00:59:29,527
saying oh, we can't
have this stuff.
1264
00:59:29,550 --> 00:59:30,871
It's much too violent.
1265
00:59:30,896 --> 00:59:32,768
Well parents and psychologists
are very concerned.
1266
00:59:32,793 --> 00:59:35,664
I have very vivid memories
of the Video Nasty Panic.
1267
00:59:35,688 --> 00:59:39,043
I was probably nine
or 10 years old
1268
00:59:39,068 --> 00:59:41,389
when it started to hit the news
1269
00:59:41,413 --> 00:59:45,112
that this filth was
entering our homes,
1270
00:59:45,137 --> 00:59:49,181
and a lot of moral
do-gooders and church people
1271
00:59:49,206 --> 00:59:52,802
and politicians started to
talk about these movies,
1272
00:59:52,827 --> 00:59:56,699
saying that they were
dangerous for society,
1273
00:59:56,724 --> 00:59:59,043
because anyone seeing
them, it could cause them
1274
00:59:59,068 --> 01:00:02,630
to be scarred, and to go out
and inflict harm on society.
1275
01:00:02,655 --> 01:00:05,527
Even today, if one is
inclined to believe in Satanism,
1276
01:00:05,550 --> 01:00:08,251
it's a way to actually
see the devil,
1277
01:00:08,275 --> 01:00:09,492
and perhaps be inspired.
1278
01:00:09,516 --> 01:00:11,251
I think people
were really afraid
1279
01:00:11,275 --> 01:00:12,838
because they were told to be.
1280
01:00:12,862 --> 01:00:15,768
That was the beginning
off the cult of fear
1281
01:00:15,793 --> 01:00:16,735
in this country.
1282
01:00:16,759 --> 01:00:18,344
I don't believe in censorship.
1283
01:00:19,550 --> 01:00:22,940
But I do believe that
we parents and leaders
1284
01:00:22,965 --> 01:00:24,664
have a reason to be concerned.
1285
01:00:24,688 --> 01:00:28,976
It was such a simple
use of religious moralism
1286
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,413
that they cracked
down on us in the 80s,
1287
01:00:33,619 --> 01:00:38,112
and in doing so,
really resurrected
1288
01:00:38,137 --> 01:00:42,010
a lot of these archaic ideas
about religious fundamentalism
1289
01:00:42,034 --> 01:00:44,976
that are so easy to
use when you're trying
1290
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,010
to manipulate large
masses of people.
1291
01:00:48,034 --> 01:00:51,148
Sure, television should
present life the way it is.
1292
01:00:51,172 --> 01:00:55,286
You can't tell somebody
else they can't like it,
1293
01:00:55,309 --> 01:00:56,907
because you don't like it.
1294
01:00:56,931 --> 01:00:59,630
That kind of psychology
is so unhealthy.
1295
01:00:59,655 --> 01:01:03,286
We needed the movies
of 80s horror cinema
1296
01:01:03,309 --> 01:01:07,871
to release a little
of that pent up steam.
1297
01:01:07,896 --> 01:01:09,527
And finally, music.
1298
01:01:09,550 --> 01:01:12,112
Which is found here in the
neighborhood record store
1299
01:01:12,137 --> 01:01:14,768
under the category
of heavy metal music.
1300
01:01:14,793 --> 01:01:17,976
There's a link between
heavy metal and horror.
1301
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,112
They're like some
strange cousins.
1302
01:01:19,137 --> 01:01:20,458
They always have been.
1303
01:01:20,481 --> 01:01:23,871
♪ We're the dream warriors
1304
01:01:23,896 --> 01:01:25,664
In the "Nightmare
on Elm Street" films,
1305
01:01:25,688 --> 01:01:28,240
the Dokken soundtrack
is a classic.
1306
01:01:29,103 --> 01:01:31,112
The satanic message is clear,
1307
01:01:31,137 --> 01:01:33,492
both in the album covers,
and in the lyrics,
1308
01:01:33,516 --> 01:01:36,664
which are reaching
impressionable young minds.
1309
01:01:36,688 --> 01:01:38,148
It's question of
content and values,
1310
01:01:38,172 --> 01:01:41,355
and parents need to tune in
to their children's world.
1311
01:01:41,378 --> 01:01:44,251
Anytime there's any kind
of a new wave of music,
1312
01:01:44,275 --> 01:01:47,112
there's always somebody who's
gonna have a problem with it.
1313
01:01:47,137 --> 01:01:49,976
And the fact that
you had Ozzy Osborne
1314
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,492
supposedly biting off the heads
of bats onstage and stuff,
1315
01:01:53,516 --> 01:01:56,664
that certainly threw people
for a loop.
1316
01:01:56,688 --> 01:01:58,181
This is entertainment?
1317
01:01:58,206 --> 01:02:00,699
This is what our kids are
looking at for entertainment?
1318
01:02:00,724 --> 01:02:01,940
Yes.
1319
01:02:01,965 --> 01:02:03,492
So in the height
of satanic panic
1320
01:02:03,516 --> 01:02:06,389
as the most metal and
punk rock thing to do
1321
01:02:06,413 --> 01:02:08,699
from the film community,
is they did films
1322
01:02:08,724 --> 01:02:11,355
about rock and roll and Satan.
1323
01:02:11,378 --> 01:02:14,630
The times that
we were living in,
1324
01:02:14,655 --> 01:02:18,492
it was a perfect tapestry
for us to utilize
1325
01:02:18,516 --> 01:02:23,181
what was going on in the
world as far as politics
1326
01:02:23,206 --> 01:02:24,838
and us making movies.
1327
01:02:24,862 --> 01:02:26,976
♪ Get down tonight
1328
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,768
I was in school in the 80s,
1329
01:02:28,793 --> 01:02:32,251
and there was a concern
among the whole caucus
1330
01:02:32,275 --> 01:02:35,492
of evangelicals that
Dungeons and Dragons
1331
01:02:35,516 --> 01:02:37,768
was a satanic sort of thing.
1332
01:02:37,793 --> 01:02:41,137
A lot of people hear
the phrase my sweet Satan.
1333
01:02:44,275 --> 01:02:46,768
♪ My sweet Satan
1334
01:02:46,793 --> 01:02:48,148
My sweet Satan.
1335
01:02:48,172 --> 01:02:49,389
The lyrics playing
backwards and all that stuff.
1336
01:02:49,413 --> 01:02:51,907
It was kind of a hysteria,
1337
01:02:51,931 --> 01:02:55,976
which doesn't feel all
that unfamiliar anymore.
1338
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,079
It tells you how
to close the gate.
1339
01:02:58,103 --> 01:03:01,112
Parents just didn't know
it was the record companies
1340
01:03:01,137 --> 01:03:05,286
that were telling them that
if you spin records backwards,
1341
01:03:05,309 --> 01:03:06,827
you'll hear Satan.
1342
01:03:10,447 --> 01:03:15,251
Literally one of the best
ideas for record companies
1343
01:03:15,275 --> 01:03:18,079
to come up with in
the history of music
1344
01:03:18,103 --> 01:03:20,527
was getting stupid
people to believe that.
1345
01:03:20,550 --> 01:03:23,103
But they did conjure
up Sammi Curr.
1346
01:03:25,793 --> 01:03:28,217
All a part of the plan.
1347
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,458
All right.
1348
01:03:29,481 --> 01:03:31,907
In the 80s, we had
a big controversy
1349
01:03:31,931 --> 01:03:35,181
with the lyrics, and
parents being very concerned
1350
01:03:35,206 --> 01:03:36,976
about what their kids
were listening to
1351
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,976
in heavy metal with
the pentagrams.
1352
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,492
There were Senate hearings,
and Congressional hearings,
1353
01:03:42,516 --> 01:03:44,527
that kind of thing,
and a lot of the wives
1354
01:03:44,550 --> 01:03:46,768
of the politicians
took up this cause
1355
01:03:46,793 --> 01:03:49,355
against heavy metal music.
1356
01:03:49,378 --> 01:03:51,423
♪ Rock and roll
1357
01:03:51,447 --> 01:03:52,907
♪ Rocking
1358
01:03:52,931 --> 01:03:55,458
"Trick or Treat", there's
a scene where Sammi Curr
1359
01:03:55,481 --> 01:03:59,458
is testifying against what's
supposed to be the PMRC.
1360
01:03:59,481 --> 01:04:01,148
If you were a parent,
1361
01:04:01,172 --> 01:04:04,079
would you want your kid
growing up around rock music?
1362
01:04:04,103 --> 01:04:05,320
Rock musicians?
1363
01:04:05,344 --> 01:04:06,561
I mean, with that
kind of values?
1364
01:04:06,585 --> 01:04:07,527
And he basically tells
him to go get fucked.
1365
01:04:07,552 --> 01:04:09,389
You cannot legislate morality.
1366
01:04:09,413 --> 01:04:11,596
- The teenage daughter-
- We will bring you down!
1367
01:04:11,619 --> 01:04:14,492
And that's the way
I was with my heroes.
1368
01:04:14,516 --> 01:04:17,320
That's the way my
fans are with me
1369
01:04:17,344 --> 01:04:18,976
when I'm telling
the establishment
1370
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:20,757
to go fuck themselves, you know?
1371
01:04:21,931 --> 01:04:24,733
There will always be
a need for a platform
1372
01:04:24,757 --> 01:04:27,931
to give people hope in
a sea of hopelessness.
1373
01:04:28,862 --> 01:04:31,838
I carried an M16 and you,
1374
01:04:31,862 --> 01:04:36,043
you carry that,
that, that guitar!
1375
01:04:36,068 --> 01:04:38,251
What they came up with
was a warning system
1376
01:04:38,275 --> 01:04:39,527
on the albums.
1377
01:04:39,550 --> 01:04:41,561
They wanted to rate
them, like rated R,
1378
01:04:41,585 --> 01:04:42,802
and things like that,
but they ended up
1379
01:04:42,827 --> 01:04:44,976
with just sort of
a warning label.
1380
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,492
But the album sold
better when they had
1381
01:04:46,516 --> 01:04:47,757
the warning label on them.
1382
01:04:52,827 --> 01:04:54,148
♪ We're not gonna take it
1383
01:04:54,172 --> 01:04:56,976
To me, horror and the
discovery of horror,
1384
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,907
you start finding these voices
outside of the mainstream,
1385
01:05:00,931 --> 01:05:05,217
who are willing to push
a lot of boundaries
1386
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,907
and question a lot
of the establishment,
1387
01:05:08,931 --> 01:05:12,355
and scaring the crack
out of all the PTA moms
1388
01:05:12,378 --> 01:05:15,561
and school superintendents
and Cub Scout leaders
1389
01:05:15,585 --> 01:05:17,458
that were trying to
make sure we all fit
1390
01:05:17,481 --> 01:05:19,871
right into the mold
that they wanted us to.
1391
01:05:19,896 --> 01:05:20,896
God!
1392
01:05:22,103 --> 01:05:23,217
God is dead!
1393
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:24,320
- Hail Satan!
- Satan lives!
1394
01:05:25,550 --> 01:05:27,838
It's an ever-perpetual cycle
1395
01:05:27,862 --> 01:05:31,802
that the entire human experience
centers itself around,
1396
01:05:31,827 --> 01:05:33,664
that events are out of control.
1397
01:05:33,688 --> 01:05:37,181
There has to be something
that can set it right.
1398
01:05:37,206 --> 01:05:40,596
And there are many people
who will seize on anything.
1399
01:05:40,619 --> 01:05:42,389
They want a solution.
1400
01:05:42,413 --> 01:05:43,940
They want deliverance.
1401
01:05:43,965 --> 01:05:45,423
We fall for everything.
1402
01:05:45,447 --> 01:05:50,148
I recall that being the most
ridiculous waste of time.
1403
01:05:50,172 --> 01:05:52,596
It's been heading in that
direction for a long time.
1404
01:05:52,619 --> 01:05:55,492
Now we're totally
divided as a country.
1405
01:05:55,516 --> 01:05:57,827
And it's crap like
that that does it.
1406
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,355
"Butcher,
Baker, Nightmare Maker".
1407
01:06:13,378 --> 01:06:14,630
Rated R.
1408
01:06:14,655 --> 01:06:16,907
Starts Friday at a
theater near you.
1409
01:06:16,931 --> 01:06:19,148
"Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker".
1410
01:06:19,172 --> 01:06:21,181
I mean, that's an
incredible title.
1411
01:06:21,206 --> 01:06:23,550
That movie should
have done really well.
1412
01:06:25,378 --> 01:06:27,043
"Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker"
1413
01:06:27,068 --> 01:06:29,896
is another of the Video Nasties.
1414
01:06:35,585 --> 01:06:37,976
So this is the cover
that I saw on the shelf
1415
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,458
when I saw it in around 1983.
1416
01:06:40,481 --> 01:06:43,976
And it is Susan Tyrrell
covered in blood.
1417
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:45,802
The kind of thing that
I would have rented.
1418
01:06:45,827 --> 01:06:47,940
I'm gonna get that
scholarship if I can!
1419
01:06:47,965 --> 01:06:50,217
I'm going away to school,
and no one's gonna stop me!
1420
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:51,699
Not even you!
1421
01:06:51,724 --> 01:06:53,976
"Butcher, Baker, Nightmare
Maker" is about a kid
1422
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,940
who wants to go off to
college, and an aunt
1423
01:06:55,965 --> 01:06:56,976
who doesn't want him to.
1424
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,596
And the murder that she goes to
1425
01:06:59,619 --> 01:07:00,862
to keep him there.
1426
01:07:03,550 --> 01:07:05,286
Everybody's so obsessed
with the sex life
1427
01:07:05,309 --> 01:07:06,940
of a 17-year-old.
1428
01:07:06,965 --> 01:07:08,217
I was thinking, um,
1429
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,320
can I invite Julia over
for my birthday dinner?
1430
01:07:11,344 --> 01:07:12,940
Julia again?
1431
01:07:12,965 --> 01:07:14,389
Sounds serious.
1432
01:07:14,413 --> 01:07:17,079
That's probably the most
real life part of this movie,
1433
01:07:17,103 --> 01:07:19,251
is everybody trying to
figure out if this kid's gay.
1434
01:07:19,275 --> 01:07:21,458
Do you like girls, Ms. Roberts?
1435
01:07:21,481 --> 01:07:22,699
God, you're a pig.
1436
01:07:22,724 --> 01:07:23,940
"Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker"
1437
01:07:23,965 --> 01:07:27,148
is about people
trying to out you.
1438
01:07:27,172 --> 01:07:28,181
So tell me.
1439
01:07:28,206 --> 01:07:29,320
Are you two making love?
1440
01:07:29,344 --> 01:07:31,596
I am not going to answer that.
1441
01:07:31,619 --> 01:07:34,527
The kind of twisted
perversity of the movie
1442
01:07:34,550 --> 01:07:37,103
is like really
interesting, I think.
1443
01:07:38,309 --> 01:07:41,619
It's cheesy, but
it's also queasy.
1444
01:07:43,034 --> 01:07:45,527
You're just kinda like,
is she trying to fuck him?
1445
01:07:45,550 --> 01:07:47,286
This is making me uncomfortable.
1446
01:07:47,309 --> 01:07:48,309
Ooh.
1447
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,423
You're so cute.
1448
01:07:51,447 --> 01:07:53,112
It dealt with incest.
1449
01:07:53,137 --> 01:07:56,251
It dealt with
repressed sexuality.
1450
01:07:56,275 --> 01:07:58,079
Homicidal tendencies.
1451
01:07:58,103 --> 01:08:00,630
I mean, this is like
Tennessee Williams pathos
1452
01:08:00,655 --> 01:08:03,112
that we're dealing with in
this really messed up film
1453
01:08:03,137 --> 01:08:04,423
where these people gave these
1454
01:08:04,447 --> 01:08:07,172
really disturbing performances.
1455
01:08:14,896 --> 01:08:16,940
Will Asher seemed like
an odd choice to me,
1456
01:08:16,965 --> 01:08:20,043
having come from being
creator of Bewitched,
1457
01:08:20,068 --> 01:08:22,595
and having directed I Love Lucy,
1458
01:08:22,619 --> 01:08:24,734
but he had a way with actors,
1459
01:08:24,757 --> 01:08:27,561
and he really brought in
some great performances
1460
01:08:27,586 --> 01:08:28,586
in that film.
1461
01:08:29,827 --> 01:08:31,619
♪ Billy's got a
girlfriend, Billy ♪
1462
01:08:32,448 --> 01:08:33,251
Billy, don't do that.
1463
01:08:33,274 --> 01:08:34,181
That's disgusting.
1464
01:08:34,206 --> 01:08:35,149
It's kind of a tour de force
1465
01:08:35,172 --> 01:08:36,975
mad over the top performance
1466
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:38,148
by Susan Tyrrell.
1467
01:08:38,171 --> 01:08:39,078
The only thing that's wrong
1468
01:08:39,103 --> 01:08:39,976
is that you are in my house.
1469
01:08:40,001 --> 01:08:41,907
Now get out of here!
1470
01:08:41,930 --> 01:08:42,872
Get out!
1471
01:08:42,895 --> 01:08:43,699
I just-
1472
01:08:43,724 --> 01:08:44,528
Get out of here!
1473
01:08:44,551 --> 01:08:46,216
I just want-
1474
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:47,769
Where is her Oscar
for "Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker"?
1475
01:08:47,792 --> 01:08:49,586
Retroactively give it to her.
1476
01:08:53,481 --> 01:08:54,872
What do you think you're doing?
1477
01:08:54,895 --> 01:08:56,975
This performance is
like the performance
1478
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:58,940
of the 1980s.
1479
01:08:58,965 --> 01:09:00,412
A new girlfriend.
1480
01:09:02,412 --> 01:09:05,527
Susan Tyrrell is just
getting more and more crazy
1481
01:09:05,551 --> 01:09:06,940
as the movie goes on.
1482
01:09:06,965 --> 01:09:08,595
Just a pleasure to watch.
1483
01:09:08,619 --> 01:09:10,631
It also has Bill Paxton
in it, by the way,
1484
01:09:10,654 --> 01:09:12,975
who's kind of playing
a bully character,
1485
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:14,527
very similar to the
character he plays
1486
01:09:14,551 --> 01:09:16,078
in "Weird Science".
1487
01:09:16,103 --> 01:09:17,664
He was supposed to be
the lead originally
1488
01:09:17,689 --> 01:09:19,113
but they ended up
going with someone
1489
01:09:19,136 --> 01:09:20,734
who was then more famous.
1490
01:09:20,757 --> 01:09:22,664
Some of us think we're
better than others.
1491
01:09:22,689 --> 01:09:24,493
Some of us are
better than others.
1492
01:09:24,516 --> 01:09:28,286
Paxton was so gung ho at
the beginning of his career
1493
01:09:28,310 --> 01:09:31,286
that he would come
to the cutting room.
1494
01:09:31,310 --> 01:09:34,181
He was the guy who
really wanted to learn
1495
01:09:34,206 --> 01:09:36,527
about the whole
movie making process,
1496
01:09:36,551 --> 01:09:38,389
and he went on to have
such a great career,
1497
01:09:38,412 --> 01:09:41,319
and was gone way too soon.
1498
01:09:41,344 --> 01:09:45,769
I believe that
you and Phil Brody
1499
01:09:45,792 --> 01:09:48,043
were having a lovers quarrel.
1500
01:09:48,068 --> 01:09:50,734
It has these queer themes,
it plays on gay panic,
1501
01:09:50,757 --> 01:09:52,631
but in 1983 when
it's re-released
1502
01:09:52,654 --> 01:09:55,561
as Night Warning, it's
released into a world
1503
01:09:55,586 --> 01:09:58,423
that sees gay characters
a little bit differently.
1504
01:09:58,448 --> 01:10:01,493
Keep it limp like
1505
01:10:01,516 --> 01:10:03,181
AIDS, by 1983,
1506
01:10:03,206 --> 01:10:06,595
it was referred to as Gay
Plague, and Gay Cancer.
1507
01:10:06,619 --> 01:10:08,423
And that's what people
were afraid of at the time.
1508
01:10:08,448 --> 01:10:10,423
Do you know that homosexuals
1509
01:10:10,448 --> 01:10:12,457
are very, very sick?
1510
01:10:12,481 --> 01:10:13,837
Do you know that, Billy?
1511
01:10:13,862 --> 01:10:15,527
Coach Flanders is not sick!
1512
01:10:15,551 --> 01:10:16,975
I don't know if I'll
ever watch it again
1513
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,493
for the rest of my life,
but I'm glad I saw it
1514
01:10:19,516 --> 01:10:20,551
when I was a kid.
1515
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,802
Probably made me into the
weirdo that I am today.
1516
01:10:23,827 --> 01:10:24,827
I don't know.
1517
01:10:32,206 --> 01:10:33,493
"Parasite".
1518
01:10:33,516 --> 01:10:36,561
The first futuristic
monster movie in 3D.
1519
01:10:36,586 --> 01:10:41,551
"Parasite 3D" was
a Charlie Band movie.
1520
01:10:49,586 --> 01:10:52,457
And Stan Winston created
the Parasite effects for us.
1521
01:10:52,481 --> 01:10:53,551
Low budget.
1522
01:10:59,551 --> 01:11:00,769
We gotta do something.
1523
01:11:00,792 --> 01:11:03,481
Notable for Demi Moore
making her film debut.
1524
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:05,412
Tell me where it is!
1525
01:11:06,448 --> 01:11:08,493
Go to hell!
1526
01:11:08,516 --> 01:11:13,457
It was set in a
post nuclear world,
1527
01:11:13,481 --> 01:11:18,181
and there's this character
who develops this parasite.
1528
01:11:18,206 --> 01:11:21,837
When it reproduces,
it will cast millions
1529
01:11:21,862 --> 01:11:24,734
of microscopic
spores into the air.
1530
01:11:24,757 --> 01:11:26,734
It grows over the
course of the film,
1531
01:11:26,757 --> 01:11:28,216
and it gets into people,
1532
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,699
and absorbs them from within,
1533
01:11:30,724 --> 01:11:32,319
and eventually it
turns into this
1534
01:11:32,344 --> 01:11:34,412
big toothy creature.
1535
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,975
Stan Winston, Stan
did my very first movie
1536
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,043
in the early 70s called
"Mansion of the Doom",
1537
01:11:45,068 --> 01:11:46,907
and later on did "Parasite".
1538
01:11:46,930 --> 01:11:48,664
And Stan became
super successful,
1539
01:11:48,689 --> 01:11:50,975
and I couldn't afford him,
even though we stayed close
1540
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,068
til almost the end of his
life, which was way too soon.
1541
01:11:55,619 --> 01:11:58,354
"Parasite" was one of the
first 3D movies in 20 years.
1542
01:11:58,378 --> 01:12:01,664
It did really well,
relative to a small movie.
1543
01:12:01,689 --> 01:12:04,286
I was hooked with
the gimmickry of 3D.
1544
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:05,975
Why was that cool for a while?
1545
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:07,699
Well, 'cause it was
another dimension,
1546
01:12:07,724 --> 01:12:09,493
and it was something you
couldn't really see at home.
1547
01:12:09,516 --> 01:12:12,078
Unless there's trickery or
stuff that comes at you,
1548
01:12:12,103 --> 01:12:14,664
and you're having fun
with the three dimensions,
1549
01:12:14,689 --> 01:12:16,033
to me it's not worth it.
1550
01:12:19,171 --> 01:12:21,595
I remember it being
pretty schlocky,
1551
01:12:21,619 --> 01:12:23,872
but the parasite effects
were pretty cool,
1552
01:12:23,895 --> 01:12:25,757
and the 3D was pretty cool.
1553
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:36,286
In terms of pantheon of
Stan Winston projects,
1554
01:12:36,310 --> 01:12:40,689
it's not the one he's
most proud of.
1555
01:12:47,619 --> 01:12:49,078
"Madman".
1556
01:12:49,103 --> 01:12:50,412
There is no escape.
1557
01:12:53,895 --> 01:12:56,181
I really love "Madman".
1558
01:12:56,206 --> 01:12:58,837
He was a farmer
with this family,
1559
01:12:58,862 --> 01:13:00,423
wife and two children.
1560
01:13:00,448 --> 01:13:02,078
He was an evil man.
1561
01:13:02,103 --> 01:13:04,872
I have a "Madman"
poster on my wall.
1562
01:13:04,895 --> 01:13:06,493
He walked into his bedroom
1563
01:13:06,516 --> 01:13:10,457
with an ax in his hand and
chopped his sleeping wife.
1564
01:13:10,481 --> 01:13:12,251
It was kind of a
"Sleepaway Camp" movie,
1565
01:13:12,274 --> 01:13:15,078
that I think fell under
the radar a little bit.
1566
01:13:15,103 --> 01:13:18,043
His name is Mars.
1567
01:13:18,068 --> 01:13:19,068
Madman Mars.
1568
01:13:21,136 --> 01:13:23,664
Oh no, Madman Mars
is coming upon us
1569
01:13:23,689 --> 01:13:25,940
at the campsite, but
it was just like,
1570
01:13:25,965 --> 01:13:28,872
you loved it for the
feel, the energy,
1571
01:13:28,895 --> 01:13:30,319
the New York vibe.
1572
01:13:30,344 --> 01:13:31,252
You know, Betsy.
1573
01:13:31,275 --> 01:13:33,286
I don't have many women friends,
1574
01:13:33,310 --> 01:13:35,561
and I think you're one of them.
1575
01:13:35,586 --> 01:13:36,802
Oh, I am.
1576
01:13:36,827 --> 01:13:38,423
Hey, give me your
number in the city.
1577
01:13:38,448 --> 01:13:40,423
It's like, they're in the woods!
1578
01:13:40,448 --> 01:13:41,802
They're gonna get killed!
1579
01:13:41,827 --> 01:13:44,423
You just love that
the Madman was coming,
1580
01:13:44,448 --> 01:13:47,000
and you didn't know
who he was gonna kill.
1581
01:13:51,757 --> 01:13:53,837
We used to watch
it all the time.
1582
01:13:53,862 --> 01:13:55,319
My friends would laugh.
1583
01:13:55,344 --> 01:13:57,010
Most of them were
giggling, like ooh!
1584
01:13:57,033 --> 01:13:57,838
You know.
1585
01:13:57,863 --> 01:13:59,274
I couldn't even eat.
1586
01:14:00,206 --> 01:14:01,664
And the blood, and the effects.
1587
01:14:01,689 --> 01:14:04,827
It just all looked so
real to me, and scared me.
1588
01:14:08,965 --> 01:14:13,010
"Madman" always looked like
a big furry suit to me.
1589
01:14:13,033 --> 01:14:16,319
He was in a shadow, but
he looked kind of furry.
1590
01:14:16,344 --> 01:14:18,206
And I was like oh,
he's kinda cute.
1591
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,561
I'm friends with Gary Sales.
1592
01:14:23,586 --> 01:14:26,078
He was really taken by surprise
1593
01:14:26,103 --> 01:14:27,654
with the success of the film.
1594
01:14:29,033 --> 01:14:30,011
With a lot of the 80s films,
1595
01:14:30,034 --> 01:14:33,286
there were no real boundaries.
1596
01:14:33,310 --> 01:14:36,378
They were just done, like
let's push the envelope.
1597
01:14:40,827 --> 01:14:43,975
Let's have fun, not to
intentionally hurt anyone,
1598
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,078
but just because
we're batshit crazy,
1599
01:14:46,103 --> 01:14:47,595
and we're making a horror movie,
1600
01:14:47,619 --> 01:14:50,113
and I think movies like
"Madman" just went for it.
1601
01:14:50,136 --> 01:14:52,113
They were like,
let's just kind of,
1602
01:14:52,136 --> 01:14:53,595
you know, get a monster.
1603
01:14:53,619 --> 01:14:55,802
Have him running around
killing people, and woo-hoo!
1604
01:14:55,827 --> 01:15:00,000
And it's just simple,
but so fantastic.
1605
01:15:01,412 --> 01:15:04,206
It's like silly and
great, all tied into one.
1606
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:17,595
Fans of gothic horror
1607
01:15:17,619 --> 01:15:19,792
will not be disappointed.
1608
01:15:22,827 --> 01:15:25,837
Jackie Karen inherits
this rural estate,
1609
01:15:25,862 --> 01:15:27,389
and on the rural estate
is a retirement home
1610
01:15:27,412 --> 01:15:29,699
full of elderly patients,
1611
01:15:29,724 --> 01:15:31,930
and there are mysterious
deaths happening.
1612
01:15:34,412 --> 01:15:35,907
Bit of a murder
mystery, because someone
1613
01:15:35,930 --> 01:15:36,804
is committing these crimes,
1614
01:15:36,828 --> 01:15:38,010
and you're not sure who
1615
01:15:38,033 --> 01:15:40,103
among these cast of
characters it is.
1616
01:15:42,206 --> 01:15:43,389
Are there ghosts?
1617
01:15:43,412 --> 01:15:45,354
Are there supernatural
elements at play?
1618
01:15:45,378 --> 01:15:48,757
Because it feels like
you're in this dream.
1619
01:15:53,378 --> 01:15:56,274
It's kind of that moment
between asleep and awake.
1620
01:16:00,481 --> 01:16:03,206
Jackie discovers her mother's
childhood diary in the film.
1621
01:16:04,344 --> 01:16:07,010
Lights going on and off,
1622
01:16:07,033 --> 01:16:08,561
taps left running.
1623
01:16:08,586 --> 01:16:10,699
It comes to pass that
the things in the diary
1624
01:16:10,724 --> 01:16:13,078
start to happen to her
within the plot of the film,
1625
01:16:13,103 --> 01:16:15,113
which is all leading
up to this revelation
1626
01:16:15,136 --> 01:16:17,664
that her late aunt
might not be as late
1627
01:16:17,689 --> 01:16:19,769
as she was led to believe.
1628
01:16:19,792 --> 01:16:21,354
What's that?
1629
01:16:21,378 --> 01:16:22,448
Didn't die.
1630
01:16:23,516 --> 01:16:25,493
There are some
horrific images in this.
1631
01:16:25,516 --> 01:16:28,000
It's a man drowned
in the bathtub.
1632
01:16:31,757 --> 01:16:33,664
And he's just like bloated.
1633
01:16:33,689 --> 01:16:35,734
It's tragic, but
it's also very scary.
1634
01:16:35,757 --> 01:16:38,000
Something that just like
sticks in your mind.
1635
01:16:42,827 --> 01:16:44,181
"Next of Kin" was
written and directed
1636
01:16:44,206 --> 01:16:46,113
by Tony Williams.
1637
01:16:46,136 --> 01:16:49,113
In this film, you can
see a lot of horror DNA.
1638
01:16:49,136 --> 01:16:50,216
You can see some Clouzot,
1639
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:51,457
you see "Les
Diabolique" in there.
1640
01:16:51,481 --> 01:16:53,664
You can see some Fulci in there.
1641
01:16:53,689 --> 01:16:56,113
Any time somebody gets
it in the eyeballs.
1642
01:16:56,136 --> 01:16:57,689
Linda!
1643
01:17:01,619 --> 01:17:02,837
Oh, it's rest home horror,
1644
01:17:02,862 --> 01:17:04,664
which is very cool,
but it's very gothic,
1645
01:17:04,689 --> 01:17:07,010
and it's what we might call
today slow burn horror.
1646
01:17:07,033 --> 01:17:12,000
It's got that nice Australian
unhinged energy to it.
1647
01:17:18,619 --> 01:17:19,769
Australian horror from the 80s
1648
01:17:19,792 --> 01:17:20,975
doesn't get a lot of love,
1649
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,769
but when there's a
nice example of it,
1650
01:17:23,792 --> 01:17:25,965
like "Next of Kin",
it's fun to revisit.
1651
01:17:38,448 --> 01:17:40,527
"Amityville Horror",
big boogeyman story
1652
01:17:40,551 --> 01:17:42,010
on the east coast in the 70s.
1653
01:17:42,033 --> 01:17:46,181
True crime, kid shotguns his
parents, and his siblings,
1654
01:17:46,206 --> 01:17:49,010
and he claims demonic
possession was part of it.
1655
01:17:49,033 --> 01:17:51,286
It gets turned into a book.
1656
01:17:51,310 --> 01:17:52,769
It eventually gets
made into a movie
1657
01:17:52,792 --> 01:17:54,423
with James Brolin
and Margot Kidder.
1658
01:17:54,448 --> 01:17:57,940
To this day you see those
windows, "Amityville Horror".
1659
01:17:57,965 --> 01:17:59,493
Three years later,
they're making
1660
01:17:59,516 --> 01:18:01,251
"Amityville 2: The Possession",
1661
01:18:01,274 --> 01:18:05,043
which is essentially
the true story
1662
01:18:05,068 --> 01:18:07,344
of the kid killing his family.
1663
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,319
- "Amityville -The Possession".
1664
01:18:13,344 --> 01:18:15,216
"Amityville: The Possession".
1665
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,423
It has to do with possession,
1666
01:18:17,448 --> 01:18:19,274
but mainly it's about incest.
1667
01:18:20,378 --> 01:18:21,827
Take off your nightgown.
1668
01:18:22,862 --> 01:18:24,319
What?
1669
01:18:24,344 --> 01:18:26,769
This prequel is loosely
based on the DeFeo murders,
1670
01:18:26,792 --> 01:18:28,792
but the names have been changed.
1671
01:18:29,930 --> 01:18:31,078
Everything seems quite idyllic.
1672
01:18:31,103 --> 01:18:32,527
It's a nice little
lovely family,
1673
01:18:32,551 --> 01:18:33,664
until it's not.
1674
01:18:33,689 --> 01:18:35,113
The dad's a fucking asshole.
1675
01:18:35,136 --> 01:18:37,802
He's abusive to
everybody in the family.
1676
01:18:37,827 --> 01:18:39,078
- Think you're funny?
- What are you doing?
1677
01:18:39,103 --> 01:18:40,216
Huh?
1678
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:41,734
You can't hit him-
1679
01:18:41,757 --> 01:18:45,862
Burt Young is maybe the
scuzziest dad in horror.
1680
01:18:46,792 --> 01:18:48,654
Please, don't hit that child.
1681
01:18:50,136 --> 01:18:51,631
Listen, this isn't your
business, you hear that?
1682
01:18:51,654 --> 01:18:53,664
We've got a teenage son
and a teenage daughter.
1683
01:18:53,689 --> 01:18:57,181
They've got a real weird
dynamic right off the get-go,
1684
01:18:57,206 --> 01:18:59,699
and it's one of those things
where you're questioning,
1685
01:18:59,724 --> 01:19:01,148
is it supposed to be like that?
1686
01:19:01,171 --> 01:19:02,319
Maybe the actors
were just having
1687
01:19:02,344 --> 01:19:03,940
a little too much chemistry
1688
01:19:03,965 --> 01:19:05,310
for brother and sister.
1689
01:19:06,481 --> 01:19:08,423
Until the brother
gets possessed,
1690
01:19:08,448 --> 01:19:10,148
and then gets it
on with his sister,
1691
01:19:10,171 --> 01:19:12,181
who is not possessed,
so I don't really know
1692
01:19:12,206 --> 01:19:13,619
what her excuse was.
1693
01:19:15,448 --> 01:19:17,595
Playing the young
daughter is Diane Franklin
1694
01:19:17,619 --> 01:19:20,078
from "Last American
Virgin", "Better Off Dead",
1695
01:19:20,103 --> 01:19:22,734
real apple pie, America's
sweetheart type stuff.
1696
01:19:22,757 --> 01:19:25,181
And if you wanna watch her
have sex with her brother,
1697
01:19:25,206 --> 01:19:27,654
"Amityville II" is
the film for you.
1698
01:19:30,310 --> 01:19:31,769
This skin-crawling incest
that happens in the film
1699
01:19:31,792 --> 01:19:34,389
was actually cut down from
what was in the original cut,
1700
01:19:34,412 --> 01:19:36,078
and it was apparently
a lot more graphic.
1701
01:19:36,103 --> 01:19:37,595
"Amityville II: The Possession"
1702
01:19:37,619 --> 01:19:41,734
was directed by Italian
director, Damiano Damiani.
1703
01:19:41,757 --> 01:19:43,699
Written by Tommy Lee Wallace.
1704
01:19:43,724 --> 01:19:47,216
Best known for "Halloween
3: Season of the Witch".
1705
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,940
And he co-wrote this
with Dardano Sacchetti
1706
01:19:49,965 --> 01:19:53,000
who often worked
with Lucio Fulci.
1707
01:19:54,895 --> 01:19:57,975
This one actually does have
really wonderful effects.
1708
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,595
I mean, it's just
like 80s to the core.
1709
01:20:00,619 --> 01:20:02,113
Bladder effects,
like as the brother
1710
01:20:02,136 --> 01:20:04,837
is becoming more
and more possessed,
1711
01:20:04,862 --> 01:20:08,000
neck is just pulsing, or
his head will be pulsing.
1712
01:20:10,757 --> 01:20:14,251
My favorite moment in
"Amityville II: The Possession",
1713
01:20:14,274 --> 01:20:15,631
there's this part
where the camera
1714
01:20:15,654 --> 01:20:17,251
kind of goes overhead,
when he's like,
1715
01:20:17,274 --> 01:20:21,551
I guess the demon is
really going into his body.
1716
01:20:23,895 --> 01:20:26,286
"Amityville: The
Possession", and "Amityville"
1717
01:20:26,310 --> 01:20:30,940
the original first film are
two totally separate entities.
1718
01:20:30,965 --> 01:20:32,734
The tone is not the same.
1719
01:20:32,757 --> 01:20:35,699
The first one is just
straight up scary.
1720
01:20:35,724 --> 01:20:38,354
The second one has
kinds of all these weird
1721
01:20:38,378 --> 01:20:39,654
other tones in it.
1722
01:20:41,619 --> 01:20:43,010
You wanted it!
1723
01:20:43,033 --> 01:20:45,344
You feel very uncomfortable
for different reasons.
1724
01:20:46,274 --> 01:20:47,217
Look at them.
1725
01:20:47,242 --> 01:20:49,389
They're pathetic animals.
1726
01:20:49,412 --> 01:20:51,448
They'd be better off
if you killed them.
1727
01:20:52,654 --> 01:20:53,631
The second one is
just like fuck it,
1728
01:20:53,655 --> 01:20:54,872
let's go off the rails.
1729
01:20:54,895 --> 01:20:56,664
We're gonna loosely
use this title,
1730
01:20:56,689 --> 01:21:00,103
and then just go way off
into left field over here.
1731
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,389
And it's for that extra
bit of sickening material,
1732
01:21:06,412 --> 01:21:08,010
and there's lots of
it in this picture,
1733
01:21:08,033 --> 01:21:10,113
that's the reason that
"Amityville II: The Possession"
1734
01:21:10,136 --> 01:21:13,000
makes my list as one of the
worst films of the year.
1735
01:21:18,206 --> 01:21:21,551
That no one
would ever forget the girls
1736
01:21:23,654 --> 01:21:26,493
in "The House On Sorority Row".
1737
01:21:26,516 --> 01:21:31,319
That mystical world of the
sorority fraternity culture,
1738
01:21:31,344 --> 01:21:33,493
in the 80s, all films
were pointing us
1739
01:21:33,516 --> 01:21:34,734
towards that's
where you're going.
1740
01:21:34,757 --> 01:21:36,631
If it's not "Revenge
of the Nerds",
1741
01:21:36,654 --> 01:21:38,561
it's "The House
on Sorority Row".
1742
01:21:38,586 --> 01:21:39,458
I wanna thank you for helping me
1743
01:21:39,483 --> 01:21:41,654
become what I am today.
1744
01:21:42,586 --> 01:21:45,171
Wasted.
1745
01:21:46,481 --> 01:21:48,251
And then it's like,
what crazy debauchery
1746
01:21:48,274 --> 01:21:49,769
is gonna happen within the walls
1747
01:21:49,792 --> 01:21:51,148
of that sorority house?
1748
01:21:51,171 --> 01:21:52,802
And how will we be punished
1749
01:21:52,827 --> 01:21:55,103
for indulging in
that debauchery?
1750
01:21:59,654 --> 01:22:00,975
You filth!
1751
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,527
Evil house mother.
1752
01:22:03,551 --> 01:22:07,033
The house mother to
end all house mothers.
1753
01:22:07,965 --> 01:22:10,561
Is killed accidentally
1754
01:22:10,586 --> 01:22:13,423
by sorority girls,
1755
01:22:13,448 --> 01:22:16,344
and revenge ensues.
1756
01:22:20,930 --> 01:22:24,631
I got my start "House
on Sorority Row".
1757
01:22:24,654 --> 01:22:28,319
I'd just come out
of theater school.
1758
01:22:28,344 --> 01:22:30,595
I think we got paid $50 a day.
1759
01:22:30,619 --> 01:22:31,837
We worked really hard, you know.
1760
01:22:31,862 --> 01:22:34,274
We shot night for
night for weeks.
1761
01:22:35,895 --> 01:22:38,664
So we were like
zombies during the day.
1762
01:22:38,689 --> 01:22:40,769
The director, he
kept a firm hand
1763
01:22:40,792 --> 01:22:44,561
without ever being an
asshole, to be honest.
1764
01:22:44,586 --> 01:22:47,000
Which is saying a lot
for a first endeavor.
1765
01:22:51,206 --> 01:22:53,148
Everyone else is
wearing a cute frock,
1766
01:22:53,171 --> 01:22:55,837
and I'm wearing these
ugly beige pants
1767
01:22:55,862 --> 01:22:58,078
and this sweater, and
I had to run around
1768
01:22:58,103 --> 01:23:01,319
in that stupid outfit,
and put it on everyday.
1769
01:23:01,344 --> 01:23:04,113
And I did not feel
like I looked terrific.
1770
01:23:04,136 --> 01:23:05,136
She's alive.
1771
01:23:06,310 --> 01:23:07,975
We put her back in the pool,
1772
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,699
and she was still alive!
1773
01:23:09,724 --> 01:23:11,975
He also colored my hair brown,
1774
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:14,802
because of course, smart
good girls have brown hair.
1775
01:23:14,827 --> 01:23:18,664
Me being the good girl, the
one who stays in the house
1776
01:23:18,689 --> 01:23:21,010
while her friends are being
murdered left and right.
1777
01:23:21,033 --> 01:23:22,586
That always makes me giggle.
1778
01:23:28,103 --> 01:23:29,595
Would you not run away?
1779
01:23:29,619 --> 01:23:31,872
Are you gonna go roaming
around in this house
1780
01:23:31,895 --> 01:23:33,423
looking for clues?
1781
01:23:33,448 --> 01:23:37,000
But I was drugged, so I
do have that to defend me.
1782
01:23:38,103 --> 01:23:39,664
Just a mild sedative.
1783
01:23:39,689 --> 01:23:41,631
It definitely had a style
1784
01:23:41,654 --> 01:23:44,516
that a lot of low budget
films really don't have.
1785
01:23:50,654 --> 01:23:52,907
"The House on Sorority
Row" ended up being
1786
01:23:52,930 --> 01:23:54,734
one of those movies that became
1787
01:23:54,757 --> 01:23:56,586
a bit of a cult fan favorite.
1788
01:24:00,412 --> 01:24:03,561
As much as I like to say it's
all because it's great film,
1789
01:24:03,586 --> 01:24:05,940
I think some of it
is, you know, fun
1790
01:24:05,965 --> 01:24:08,043
in that it's a little
bit over the top,
1791
01:24:08,068 --> 01:24:11,344
and when you think that's part
of the appeal of the genre.
1792
01:24:14,412 --> 01:24:16,286
I never thought I'd
be talking about it.
1793
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:17,664
You know, I'm 63.
1794
01:24:17,689 --> 01:24:21,148
I was 23.
1795
01:24:21,171 --> 01:24:24,113
Wow.
1796
01:24:24,136 --> 01:24:26,699
But I have no
regrets whatsoever.
1797
01:24:26,724 --> 01:24:28,000
It was fun.
1798
01:24:43,412 --> 01:24:46,251
As an actor watching films,
1799
01:24:46,274 --> 01:24:49,389
I certainly dial
into performances.
1800
01:24:49,412 --> 01:24:53,000
I sort of learned
my craft by doing.
1801
01:24:54,448 --> 01:24:55,872
I had taken dance lessons,
1802
01:24:55,895 --> 01:24:58,757
and so I started
out doing theater.
1803
01:25:01,310 --> 01:25:02,527
♪ Lady Godiva
1804
01:25:02,551 --> 01:25:05,527
The first television
project I did was Maude.
1805
01:25:05,551 --> 01:25:08,595
And it was a four camera sitcom
1806
01:25:08,619 --> 01:25:10,216
that we filmed like a play.
1807
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,216
So stop asking
who I was out with,
1808
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:13,319
what we had for dinner,
1809
01:25:13,344 --> 01:25:15,068
and did we go all the way.
1810
01:25:17,965 --> 01:25:21,975
And then my next
real film education
1811
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,493
came when I did
"Someone's Watching Me"
1812
01:25:24,516 --> 01:25:26,113
for John Carpenter.
1813
01:25:26,136 --> 01:25:29,975
I played, I believe,
the first lesbian woman
1814
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:31,216
in a television film.
1815
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,216
And he had written
a fantastic scene
1816
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:37,148
in which her
sexuality is revealed.
1817
01:25:37,171 --> 01:25:38,171
Who's he?
1818
01:25:40,171 --> 01:25:41,171
She.
1819
01:25:42,136 --> 01:25:43,769
And we did it, and
John came up to me
1820
01:25:43,792 --> 01:25:45,907
and he said that was
great, that was perfect.
1821
01:25:45,930 --> 01:25:47,043
Do less.
1822
01:25:47,068 --> 01:25:47,872
Don't worry.
1823
01:25:47,895 --> 01:25:48,895
You're not my type.
1824
01:25:49,757 --> 01:25:51,148
I'm not worried.
1825
01:25:51,171 --> 01:25:54,010
And it was the proverbial
light bulb going off.
1826
01:25:54,033 --> 01:25:56,148
Oh, because it's film,
1827
01:25:56,171 --> 01:25:58,078
because it's not theater.
1828
01:25:58,103 --> 01:25:59,493
Do less.
1829
01:25:59,516 --> 01:26:02,113
Now, especially something
like "Creepshow",
1830
01:26:02,136 --> 01:26:03,907
which was George Romero,
1831
01:26:03,930 --> 01:26:06,907
which was such an
outrageous character,
1832
01:26:06,930 --> 01:26:09,907
which was George saying
no, you can be bigger!
1833
01:26:09,930 --> 01:26:11,699
You can be bigger,
you can be bigger.
1834
01:26:11,724 --> 01:26:13,286
That was like, wait a
minute, wait a minute.
1835
01:26:13,310 --> 01:26:16,975
I just spent the last three
years learning to do less.
1836
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,010
I mean, where would you be
without me to take care of you?
1837
01:26:20,033 --> 01:26:23,527
The important thing about
approaching a character
1838
01:26:23,551 --> 01:26:26,527
like Billy in "Creepshow",
who everybody will watch
1839
01:26:26,551 --> 01:26:29,251
the movie and say oh,
she's just a bitch.
1840
01:26:29,274 --> 01:26:31,113
When was the last time
you got it up, Henry?
1841
01:26:31,136 --> 01:26:32,595
Huh?
1842
01:26:32,619 --> 01:26:34,493
When was the last time
you were a man in our bed?
1843
01:26:34,516 --> 01:26:36,493
She's the most horrible,
and she needed to be
1844
01:26:36,516 --> 01:26:39,595
so that everybody
would cheer when Henry
1845
01:26:39,619 --> 01:26:41,216
arranged for her demise.
1846
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:42,480
Don't you ever touch me again!
1847
01:26:48,103 --> 01:26:51,181
As an actor, you
don't play I'm a bitch.
1848
01:26:51,206 --> 01:26:54,493
You explore whatever
it is that made her
1849
01:26:54,516 --> 01:26:55,493
the way she was.
1850
01:26:55,518 --> 01:26:58,010
She's incredibly disappointed
1851
01:26:58,033 --> 01:27:00,113
in the way her life turned out.
1852
01:27:00,136 --> 01:27:02,457
Henry, goddammit!
1853
01:27:02,481 --> 01:27:03,975
How many times have I told you
1854
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,527
to lock the goddam door?
1855
01:27:05,551 --> 01:27:07,043
You have to
understand what it is
1856
01:27:07,068 --> 01:27:09,113
that drives the behavior.
1857
01:27:09,136 --> 01:27:11,216
At least Henry has
me to take care of him,
1858
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:12,493
don't you, dear?
1859
01:27:12,516 --> 01:27:13,975
I didn't see a lot
of films growing up,
1860
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:17,251
but I do remember something
called "Donovan's Brain".
1861
01:27:17,274 --> 01:27:19,907
I don't know that I had
ever seen a horror film
1862
01:27:19,930 --> 01:27:23,595
besides "Donovan's Brain",
until John invited me
1863
01:27:23,619 --> 01:27:26,206
to the screening of "Halloween".
1864
01:27:27,586 --> 01:27:31,010
I had just done The Tonight
Show earlier that day,
1865
01:27:31,033 --> 01:27:33,699
and announced on Johnny Carson
1866
01:27:33,724 --> 01:27:36,319
that John and I were engaged.
1867
01:27:36,344 --> 01:27:39,975
And then I went to the
screening of "Halloween".
1868
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,907
By the end of that film,
I suspect that he was
1869
01:27:42,930 --> 01:27:45,664
black and blue, because
I kept going, oh my god!
1870
01:27:45,689 --> 01:27:46,493
Oh my god!
1871
01:27:46,518 --> 01:27:48,078
I was like, oh, oh!
1872
01:27:48,103 --> 01:27:48,976
Oh my, oh!
1873
01:27:49,001 --> 01:27:51,389
You know?
1874
01:27:51,412 --> 01:27:54,068
It's the first horror
film I'd ever seen.
1875
01:27:55,206 --> 01:27:57,319
It was at that point
that Tom Atkins,
1876
01:27:57,344 --> 01:27:58,664
who is also at the screening,
1877
01:27:58,689 --> 01:28:00,907
leaned over to me and said Addy,
1878
01:28:00,930 --> 01:28:02,907
I'm not sure you
should marry this guy.
1879
01:28:02,930 --> 01:28:05,286
We cannot let
Adrienne marry this guy.
1880
01:28:05,310 --> 01:28:07,423
There's something
wrong with him.
1881
01:28:07,448 --> 01:28:09,251
He makes this kind of movie.
1882
01:28:09,274 --> 01:28:10,527
But she married him,
1883
01:28:10,551 --> 01:28:13,481
and they had a lovely
child together, Cody.
1884
01:28:14,310 --> 01:28:16,734
Well, stay up with me.
1885
01:28:16,757 --> 01:28:19,907
And I'll figure out some
way to keep you occupied.
1886
01:28:19,930 --> 01:28:23,769
When John first had me read
the script for "The Fog",
1887
01:28:23,792 --> 01:28:26,664
I was pretty involved
in social issues.
1888
01:28:26,689 --> 01:28:28,389
"Coming Home" was a huge hit,
1889
01:28:28,412 --> 01:28:31,734
and "The China Syndrome"
was a huge hit.
1890
01:28:31,757 --> 01:28:34,113
And I read it, and it was like,
1891
01:28:34,136 --> 01:28:37,310
uh, this is a horror film.
1892
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:43,148
This is not about
women's rights.
1893
01:28:43,171 --> 01:28:44,907
It's not about abortion.
1894
01:28:44,930 --> 01:28:47,251
But, I mean, I loved the
character and everything,
1895
01:28:47,274 --> 01:28:50,457
and of course, since,
it's one of the things
1896
01:28:50,481 --> 01:28:53,344
that I am most proud of doing.
1897
01:28:58,136 --> 01:29:01,354
The one piece of merchandise
that I really love,
1898
01:29:01,378 --> 01:29:03,595
"The Fog" action figure.
1899
01:29:03,619 --> 01:29:06,619
I think that's a marvelous
piece of merchandising.
1900
01:29:09,378 --> 01:29:10,907
None of us knew in the 80s
1901
01:29:10,930 --> 01:29:12,975
that the work we were doing,
1902
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,043
"Escape From New York", or
"The Fog", or "Creepshow',
1903
01:29:16,068 --> 01:29:20,862
would be as viable today.
1904
01:29:22,206 --> 01:29:24,689
The career of an
actor, when it works,
1905
01:29:25,586 --> 01:29:26,965
is a wonderful career.
1906
01:29:43,274 --> 01:29:44,423
"Xtro".
1907
01:29:44,448 --> 01:29:47,354
Some extraterrestrials
aren't friendly.
1908
01:29:47,378 --> 01:29:48,389
From New Line Cinema.
1909
01:29:48,412 --> 01:29:49,872
Rated R.
1910
01:29:49,895 --> 01:29:51,423
Roger begins with a
horror film called "Xtro".
1911
01:29:51,448 --> 01:29:52,907
That's X-T-R-O.
1912
01:29:52,930 --> 01:29:55,181
Remember that spelling,
remember that name.
1913
01:29:55,206 --> 01:29:58,975
So, "Xtro" is about an
alien that kills people,
1914
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:02,457
but it's also the cliche
of the disturbed kid
1915
01:30:02,481 --> 01:30:06,171
with the powers, and
evil clowns, too.
1916
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,757
It's kind of everything.
1917
01:30:16,551 --> 01:30:19,389
I'd say it's very confusing
1918
01:30:19,412 --> 01:30:21,907
slightly surrealistic movie,
1919
01:30:21,930 --> 01:30:24,551
and I'm not really
sure what it's about.
1920
01:30:25,792 --> 01:30:27,907
So a father gets
abducted by aliens.
1921
01:30:27,930 --> 01:30:30,286
The wife thinks that he
ran off with another woman.
1922
01:30:30,310 --> 01:30:32,310
The alien impregnates somebody.
1923
01:30:35,448 --> 01:30:39,078
Then the woman gives
birth to a human child,
1924
01:30:39,103 --> 01:30:40,975
and it turns out
to be the father,
1925
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,965
who's been abducted and reborn.
1926
01:30:44,136 --> 01:30:47,113
I'm told that it's
about abandonment.
1927
01:30:47,136 --> 01:30:50,319
Some very smart
critic told me that.
1928
01:30:50,344 --> 01:30:53,319
And I just hung onto that
word every since then.
1929
01:30:53,344 --> 01:30:55,975
I can't remember
a thing until today.
1930
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:57,527
I saw Tony in the streets, so-
1931
01:30:57,551 --> 01:30:59,043
You want to come home.
1932
01:30:59,068 --> 01:31:00,251
Like it was.
1933
01:31:00,274 --> 01:31:02,561
I think what makes
marketable film
1934
01:31:02,586 --> 01:31:04,412
of any kind is being unusual.
1935
01:31:05,586 --> 01:31:07,319
Bob Shaye, who's the
head of New Line,
1936
01:31:07,344 --> 01:31:08,975
and who started New Line,
1937
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:12,561
I think Bob Shaye wanted
to have his own "Phantasm".
1938
01:31:12,586 --> 01:31:14,113
We just wanted to shock people,
1939
01:31:14,136 --> 01:31:15,493
and make our little horror film,
1940
01:31:15,516 --> 01:31:17,595
and we wanted to have
good acting and so on,
1941
01:31:17,619 --> 01:31:19,734
so you've got this
rather uneasy business,
1942
01:31:19,757 --> 01:31:22,181
between all these little
Shakespearean actors,
1943
01:31:22,206 --> 01:31:25,354
and all this nonsense
that they've got to talk.
1944
01:31:25,378 --> 01:31:27,274
You'll be able to
do lots of things.
1945
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:29,631
Don't be frightened.
1946
01:31:29,654 --> 01:31:30,872
Use it when you need it.
1947
01:31:30,895 --> 01:31:32,113
The best part in "Xtro",
1948
01:31:32,136 --> 01:31:33,872
there's this creepy alien effect
1949
01:31:33,895 --> 01:31:35,699
where it's a person
doing one of those
1950
01:31:35,724 --> 01:31:37,319
backwards spider walks.
1951
01:31:37,344 --> 01:31:39,251
The prosthetic is
put on backwards,
1952
01:31:39,274 --> 01:31:41,171
so it looks very unsettling.
1953
01:31:42,757 --> 01:31:45,872
He's walking backwards
with his back to the ground
1954
01:31:45,895 --> 01:31:48,595
on all fours, but with
his stomach sticking up
1955
01:31:48,619 --> 01:31:52,457
to the sky, and the head of
the creature on backwards,
1956
01:31:52,481 --> 01:31:54,181
which was absolute
misery for him,
1957
01:31:54,206 --> 01:31:56,457
because it was cold,
and we were having him
1958
01:31:56,481 --> 01:31:58,724
walking through swamps,
and things like that.
1959
01:32:03,068 --> 01:32:04,975
A civilization develops
enough intelligence
1960
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,561
to come all the way to
Earth from another star,
1961
01:32:07,586 --> 01:32:08,940
and then they don't
have enough sense
1962
01:32:08,965 --> 01:32:10,251
to not stand in the
middle of the road
1963
01:32:10,274 --> 01:32:11,769
when a car is coming.
1964
01:32:11,792 --> 01:32:13,631
When it came to
this birth scene,
1965
01:32:13,654 --> 01:32:15,457
which, I think nobody understood
1966
01:32:15,481 --> 01:32:18,216
except me and the
special effects guys.
1967
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,010
We had to have a thing
with the false floor,
1968
01:32:20,033 --> 01:32:22,561
and all this sort of thing,
and trap doors, and whatnot.
1969
01:32:22,586 --> 01:32:24,769
We did a lot of it in one take.
1970
01:32:24,792 --> 01:32:27,010
As much of it as we
could in one take.
1971
01:32:27,033 --> 01:32:29,561
All sorts of nasty kind
of afterbirth stuff.
1972
01:32:29,586 --> 01:32:31,595
And then we had
the umbilical cord,
1973
01:32:31,619 --> 01:32:34,286
that we made out of
spaghetti, actually.
1974
01:32:34,310 --> 01:32:35,872
And he had to bite through that.
1975
01:32:35,895 --> 01:32:37,975
We were astonished we got it.
1976
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,907
No, I wasn't a bit worried
about it going too far.
1977
01:32:39,930 --> 01:32:42,310
I was worried about it
not going far enough.
1978
01:32:44,516 --> 01:32:47,837
Bob, god bless him, was
always more for having
1979
01:32:47,862 --> 01:32:49,734
more weird things going on.
1980
01:32:49,757 --> 01:32:51,664
He said hey, you gotta
have a panther in there,
1981
01:32:51,689 --> 01:32:52,699
jumping out at someone.
1982
01:32:52,724 --> 01:32:53,666
Something like that.
1983
01:32:53,689 --> 01:32:54,975
He wanted his panther.
1984
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:56,757
And he got it.
1985
01:33:02,516 --> 01:33:04,113
It's as if they're
so pretentious
1986
01:33:04,136 --> 01:33:05,354
that they're trying
to make some kind of
1987
01:33:05,378 --> 01:33:07,043
a philosophical statement.
1988
01:33:07,068 --> 01:33:07,940
It was garbage.
1989
01:33:07,965 --> 01:33:08,872
It was offensive.
1990
01:33:08,896 --> 01:33:10,181
Garbage is the operative word.
1991
01:33:10,206 --> 01:33:12,319
With little films like these,
1992
01:33:12,344 --> 01:33:14,769
the audience knows
it's a low budget film.
1993
01:33:14,792 --> 01:33:15,975
They know right away.
1994
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,010
They can sniff it
from the first frame.
1995
01:33:18,033 --> 01:33:20,516
And they tend to
be more forgiving.
1996
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:27,907
That was just at the
start of home video.
1997
01:33:27,930 --> 01:33:30,975
And I remember the first
week that we came out,
1998
01:33:31,000 --> 01:33:33,561
we beat "Poltergeist",
if you can believe that,
1999
01:33:33,586 --> 01:33:35,792
in the VHS ratings.
2000
01:33:40,171 --> 01:33:43,078
It grew legs, and
it just ran off.
2001
01:33:43,103 --> 01:33:46,457
It absolutely killed in
the home video market.
2002
01:33:46,481 --> 01:33:47,792
Amazing.
2003
01:33:58,551 --> 01:34:00,010
"Curtains".
2004
01:34:00,033 --> 01:34:01,975
The ultimate nightmare.
2005
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:03,493
Canadian horror movie.
2006
01:34:03,516 --> 01:34:05,493
When you come from Canada,
you don't really realize
2007
01:34:05,516 --> 01:34:06,631
that the movies are from Canada.
2008
01:34:06,654 --> 01:34:07,907
Like Rush.
2009
01:34:07,930 --> 01:34:09,043
You don't think of it
as Canada's best band.
2010
01:34:09,068 --> 01:34:10,940
They're just a great band.
2011
01:34:10,965 --> 01:34:12,010
And what's the difference?
2012
01:34:12,033 --> 01:34:14,286
I mean, they're more friendly?
2013
01:34:14,310 --> 01:34:16,448
It kind of just blends in
with the American ones.
2014
01:34:18,895 --> 01:34:21,493
"Curtains" is about
a bunch of actresses
2015
01:34:21,516 --> 01:34:24,493
who go to a director's mansion
to audition for a role.
2016
01:34:24,516 --> 01:34:25,872
Red flag.
2017
01:34:25,895 --> 01:34:28,310
And there is a
killer on the loose.
2018
01:34:32,448 --> 01:34:35,389
And they're all also
competing for a part.
2019
01:34:35,412 --> 01:34:37,000
It gets messy.
2020
01:34:42,895 --> 01:34:45,631
An actress named Samantha
commits herself to a psych ward.
2021
01:34:45,654 --> 01:34:47,423
She's trying to,
like, be the part.
2022
01:34:47,448 --> 01:34:49,423
And then the director
fucking leaves her there
2023
01:34:49,448 --> 01:34:52,389
and goes to a mansion to
hang out with five other
2024
01:34:52,412 --> 01:34:54,010
younger, hotter actresses,
2025
01:34:54,033 --> 01:34:57,136
while a killer in a hag
mask goes after them.
2026
01:34:59,378 --> 01:35:01,734
It has these "What Ever
Happened to Baby Jane?" vibes,
2027
01:35:01,757 --> 01:35:03,699
just because there is that
element in the beginning
2028
01:35:03,724 --> 01:35:06,837
of the older actress who
gets left in a psych ward,
2029
01:35:06,862 --> 01:35:09,457
and has to escape
to get revenge.
2030
01:35:09,481 --> 01:35:11,310
What are you gonna do now?
2031
01:35:13,033 --> 01:35:14,561
What I love about the film
2032
01:35:14,586 --> 01:35:17,078
is it knows that Striker,
the director, is a creep.
2033
01:35:17,103 --> 01:35:18,103
Now seduce me.
2034
01:35:19,481 --> 01:35:20,481
No words.
2035
01:35:21,757 --> 01:35:23,078
You can make sounds if you like.
2036
01:35:23,103 --> 01:35:24,769
The horror in "Curtains" for me
2037
01:35:24,792 --> 01:35:28,457
is the way that Jonathan
Striker treats the women.
2038
01:35:28,481 --> 01:35:31,286
He forces two women
to seduce each other,
2039
01:35:31,310 --> 01:35:33,734
and she's topless,
and you can just tell
2040
01:35:33,757 --> 01:35:35,354
the women are not into it,
2041
01:35:35,378 --> 01:35:38,251
but they just do it because
it's requested of them.
2042
01:35:38,274 --> 01:35:41,975
He preys on them, ends
up sleeping with them.
2043
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:46,010
Almost like an allegory
on the industry.
2044
01:35:46,033 --> 01:35:49,975
And there's that great
scene in the frozen pond,
2045
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,595
where the one actress is
skating away from the killer
2046
01:35:53,619 --> 01:35:55,181
with this doll in her hand,
2047
01:35:55,206 --> 01:35:56,872
and the killer's got the mask on
2048
01:35:56,895 --> 01:36:00,033
with this side, like raises it,
2049
01:36:03,654 --> 01:36:06,423
Fucking insane, and
it's all in slow-mo,
2050
01:36:06,448 --> 01:36:09,136
and it's the weirdest
mask you've ever seen.
2051
01:36:10,654 --> 01:36:14,310
You don't know if
it's a woman or not.
2052
01:36:18,724 --> 01:36:20,181
It makes you fear the daylight,
2053
01:36:20,206 --> 01:36:23,286
and the emptiness in what
can happen when you're alone
2054
01:36:23,310 --> 01:36:25,769
in a seemingly safe space.
2055
01:36:25,792 --> 01:36:29,043
Originally, they wanted to
create a banshee creature,
2056
01:36:29,068 --> 01:36:31,103
but they didn't move
forward with it.
2057
01:36:33,448 --> 01:36:37,802
"Curtains" has a very
interesting kind of tone.
2058
01:36:37,827 --> 01:36:39,561
That's because it
was actually directed
2059
01:36:39,586 --> 01:36:41,043
by two different people.
2060
01:36:41,068 --> 01:36:44,837
It feels almost very slow,
and very mood building,
2061
01:36:44,862 --> 01:36:47,699
and then in some scenes,
it's very slash 'em up,
2062
01:36:47,724 --> 01:36:51,206
and darkly lit, that it feels
like an art house slasher.
2063
01:36:56,068 --> 01:36:58,181
"Curtains" is for
people who like dolls
2064
01:36:58,206 --> 01:37:00,802
and ice skating,
and old witch masks.
2065
01:37:00,827 --> 01:37:02,216
That has me written all over it.
2066
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:03,586
So I'm sold.
2067
01:37:15,206 --> 01:37:16,734
"Hell of the Living Dead".
2068
01:37:16,757 --> 01:37:19,699
Also known as "Night
of the Zombies",
2069
01:37:19,724 --> 01:37:21,631
originally titled "Virus".
2070
01:37:21,654 --> 01:37:24,136
But known in England as
"Zombie Creeping Flesh".
2071
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:29,975
This is the VHS tape,
and a perfect example
2072
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:33,457
of the lurid artwork
that I would see
2073
01:37:33,481 --> 01:37:35,631
on the shelves of a video shop
2074
01:37:35,654 --> 01:37:37,481
and think that movie is for me.
2075
01:37:40,274 --> 01:37:41,837
There's a lab in
Papua New Guinea
2076
01:37:41,862 --> 01:37:44,561
that has a chemical that
accidentally gets released
2077
01:37:44,586 --> 01:37:47,516
that turns pretty much
everybody into zombies.
2078
01:37:49,586 --> 01:37:50,802
And you follow this
group of people
2079
01:37:50,827 --> 01:37:52,078
that travel around the globe
2080
01:37:52,103 --> 01:37:54,171
trying to stop this
grand conspiracy.
2081
01:37:55,103 --> 01:37:57,000
Or maybe you just get eaten.
2082
01:37:58,448 --> 01:38:00,448
This is an Italian film
that was dubbed in English.
2083
01:38:01,378 --> 01:38:02,975
It was directed by Bruno Mattei,
2084
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,043
under the pseudonym
Vincent Dawn.
2085
01:38:05,068 --> 01:38:06,354
If you're familiar
with his work,
2086
01:38:06,378 --> 01:38:08,907
you know the dubbing
is pretty terrible,
2087
01:38:08,930 --> 01:38:10,975
but that just adds to
the awesomeness of it.
2088
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:12,493
And we liked each other.
2089
01:38:12,516 --> 01:38:14,078
We'd be in the sack
together by now.
2090
01:38:14,103 --> 01:38:15,354
That's your opinion.
2091
01:38:15,378 --> 01:38:18,344
Bruno Mattei was the
copycat of Lucio Fulci.
2092
01:38:19,757 --> 01:38:22,319
"Hell of the Living Dead"
came about in the wake
2093
01:38:22,344 --> 01:38:24,631
of the success of
Fulci's "Zombie",
2094
01:38:24,654 --> 01:38:28,664
so essentially he was making
an Italian zombie movie
2095
01:38:28,689 --> 01:38:30,113
which was shot in Spain,
2096
01:38:30,136 --> 01:38:32,975
but using the tropes that
Fulci had come up with
2097
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:35,724
on the back of ripping
off George Romero.
2098
01:38:39,827 --> 01:38:43,561
Set to the scores of Goblin,
2099
01:38:43,586 --> 01:38:46,595
but none of the score was
actually scored for this movie.
2100
01:38:46,619 --> 01:38:49,286
They used the soundtrack
from "Contamination"
2101
01:38:49,310 --> 01:38:51,251
and "Dawn of the
Dead" by Goblin,
2102
01:38:51,274 --> 01:38:54,206
and scored this movie
with those scores.
2103
01:38:55,344 --> 01:38:56,149
Father.
2104
01:38:56,172 --> 01:38:57,493
Father.
2105
01:38:57,516 --> 01:38:58,619
What's wrong with you?
2106
01:39:02,033 --> 01:39:03,664
When the pandemic
hit really hard,
2107
01:39:03,689 --> 01:39:05,802
of course I couldn't
stop making movies.
2108
01:39:05,827 --> 01:39:08,493
The idea of "Corona Zombies"
was these ditzy girls,
2109
01:39:08,516 --> 01:39:12,010
they turn a movie on
that was the footage
2110
01:39:12,033 --> 01:39:13,872
from "Hell of the Living
Dead", with all this
2111
01:39:13,895 --> 01:39:15,631
very funny clever new dialogue.
2112
01:39:15,654 --> 01:39:17,389
We have
just received shocking video
2113
01:39:17,412 --> 01:39:20,354
of what is believed to be
ground zero of the virus.
2114
01:39:20,378 --> 01:39:22,792
It was much like
"What's Up Tiger Lily?"
2115
01:39:23,930 --> 01:39:26,907
Is that one of
the corona zombies?
2116
01:39:26,930 --> 01:39:28,148
Shh.
2117
01:39:28,171 --> 01:39:29,561
"Hell of the Living
Dead", it's very ahead
2118
01:39:29,586 --> 01:39:31,699
of its time, and it's
very much against
2119
01:39:31,724 --> 01:39:35,251
man infecting the
earth with pollution.
2120
01:39:35,274 --> 01:39:37,181
And that is what's
causing the outbreak.
2121
01:39:37,206 --> 01:39:41,286
But it's also full of
Fulci-esque rotting zombies
2122
01:39:41,310 --> 01:39:42,802
and gore and splatter,
2123
01:39:42,827 --> 01:39:44,010
and eyes being poked out,
2124
01:39:44,033 --> 01:39:46,000
and guts being poked out.
2125
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,113
This movie is entirely enjoyable
2126
01:39:50,136 --> 01:39:51,251
from beginning to end.
2127
01:39:51,274 --> 01:39:53,769
It was the first
example where I realized
2128
01:39:53,792 --> 01:39:56,240
that the Video Nasties
panic was nonsense.
2129
01:40:11,689 --> 01:40:13,068
Father help me.
2130
01:40:15,103 --> 01:40:17,699
"Possession" is a
film about a couple
2131
01:40:17,724 --> 01:40:20,975
whose marriage is
deteriorating fast.
2132
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,802
What do you expect of me?
2133
01:40:22,827 --> 01:40:24,000
Look what you're doing!
2134
01:40:26,792 --> 01:40:29,699
Mark and Anna, you
can see that they are
2135
01:40:29,724 --> 01:40:31,527
extremely unhappy
with each other.
2136
01:40:31,551 --> 01:40:33,251
They're screaming at each other.
2137
01:40:33,274 --> 01:40:36,344
Isabelle Adjani is incredible.
2138
01:40:41,103 --> 01:40:43,654
But especially in
the subway scene.
2139
01:40:48,378 --> 01:40:49,802
And it's so disturbing.
2140
01:40:49,827 --> 01:40:51,251
One of the most effective scenes
2141
01:40:51,274 --> 01:40:55,068
of showing somebody just
completely losing themselves.
2142
01:41:00,274 --> 01:41:02,527
Sam Neill as Mark in this film
2143
01:41:02,551 --> 01:41:04,757
is a very anxious character.
2144
01:41:08,619 --> 01:41:10,837
Cinematography
really communicates
2145
01:41:10,862 --> 01:41:12,561
his inner feelings.
2146
01:41:12,586 --> 01:41:14,940
He's also very
paranoid about Anna.
2147
01:41:14,965 --> 01:41:16,561
Their whole
relationship together
2148
01:41:16,586 --> 01:41:18,792
is extremely hard to watch.
2149
01:41:19,862 --> 01:41:21,240
You know what this is for?
2150
01:41:22,206 --> 01:41:23,631
The lies!
2151
01:41:23,654 --> 01:41:26,423
Then you have to add much more.
2152
01:41:26,448 --> 01:41:30,136
They're very codependent,
and very bad for each other.
2153
01:41:35,344 --> 01:41:37,975
The dramatic elements are
really what drives the movie,
2154
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:41,033
but then you have, it turns
into this creature feature.
2155
01:41:43,412 --> 01:41:44,355
My god.
2156
01:41:44,380 --> 01:41:46,378
He made love to me all night.
2157
01:41:47,862 --> 01:41:51,078
She actually in this movie
has sex with this monster,
2158
01:41:51,103 --> 01:41:52,907
which was created
by Carlo Rambaldi,
2159
01:41:52,930 --> 01:41:54,699
who most people
know is the person
2160
01:41:54,724 --> 01:41:57,171
who created E.T. for
Steven Spielberg.
2161
01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:59,802
I can't believe
that they talked her
2162
01:41:59,827 --> 01:42:01,181
into doing that entire scene.
2163
01:42:01,206 --> 01:42:04,412
And it looks so realistic.
2164
01:42:07,274 --> 01:42:11,319
"Possession" is the epitome
of relationship horror.
2165
01:42:11,344 --> 01:42:13,699
That feeling of how it
is to all out of love
2166
01:42:13,724 --> 01:42:15,251
with someone you care about.
2167
01:42:15,274 --> 01:42:19,010
Those moments of
desperation and loss
2168
01:42:19,033 --> 01:42:20,930
are so heartbreaking.
2169
01:42:23,965 --> 01:42:25,975
It's a lot to take in.
2170
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,837
It's waiting to see
who will die first.
2171
01:42:28,862 --> 01:42:31,769
That is a movie that
deserved all the Oscar love,
2172
01:42:31,792 --> 01:42:33,561
because it really
took a lot of risks,
2173
01:42:33,586 --> 01:42:35,930
but it did a lot of
profound things as well.
2174
01:42:51,895 --> 01:42:56,078
"Devil Fetus" was made by a
bunch of first time filmmakers
2175
01:42:56,103 --> 01:42:59,699
that got a hold of themselves
some iconic actors.
2176
01:42:59,724 --> 01:43:00,802
And it's crazy.
2177
01:43:00,827 --> 01:43:02,895
The special effects are insane.
2178
01:43:05,827 --> 01:43:07,802
A woman buys a vase.
2179
01:43:07,827 --> 01:43:09,792
The vase has a demon.
2180
01:43:12,895 --> 01:43:14,527
He crawls out, and
he has sex with her
2181
01:43:14,551 --> 01:43:15,734
and impregnates her.
2182
01:43:15,757 --> 01:43:18,561
And that's the
devil fetus title.
2183
01:43:18,586 --> 01:43:22,068
Everybody dies around
her in miraculous ways.
2184
01:43:24,412 --> 01:43:26,561
That antique shop has
a lot to answer for.
2185
01:43:26,586 --> 01:43:28,240
Like, I hope she
kept the receipt.
2186
01:43:29,171 --> 01:43:31,240
It's a very weird movie.
2187
01:43:36,827 --> 01:43:38,561
What is cool about it is
these special effects,
2188
01:43:38,586 --> 01:43:41,000
and it has so much 80s charm.
2189
01:43:46,930 --> 01:43:50,631
You have this animated
thunder and lightning
2190
01:43:50,654 --> 01:43:52,148
coming out of people's hands,
2191
01:43:52,171 --> 01:43:55,136
you have them flying across
things, and floating heads.
2192
01:43:59,551 --> 01:44:02,423
The martial arts in this
is incredible, actually.
2193
01:44:02,448 --> 01:44:04,516
That's one of the
biggest selling points.
2194
01:44:07,103 --> 01:44:08,286
There's all kinds
of things happening
2195
01:44:08,310 --> 01:44:10,481
in this movie that's
hard to explain.
2196
01:44:16,862 --> 01:44:18,664
To us it might seem
like a fever dream,
2197
01:44:18,689 --> 01:44:21,769
but to the people who were
involved in the culture,
2198
01:44:21,792 --> 01:44:24,240
they may know all of these
things from childhood.
2199
01:44:27,757 --> 01:44:29,595
Very few category
three films were cut,
2200
01:44:29,619 --> 01:44:30,965
and this one was.
2201
01:44:32,344 --> 01:44:34,181
It has to deal with
gore and the assault
2202
01:44:34,206 --> 01:44:36,251
that happens in the film.
2203
01:44:36,274 --> 01:44:38,319
Cat three goes to 11.
2204
01:44:38,344 --> 01:44:39,493
You know?
2205
01:44:39,516 --> 01:44:41,837
It's a little bit higher
than 10 and NC-17,
2206
01:44:41,862 --> 01:44:43,319
but it's not quite X.
2207
01:44:43,344 --> 01:44:46,000
Which, X-rated films were
rated Cat three as well.
2208
01:44:48,481 --> 01:44:49,699
You think the film's
going this way,
2209
01:44:49,724 --> 01:44:50,975
and then it goes in a
different direction.
2210
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,171
That's what's unique
about "Devil Fetus".
2211
01:44:58,481 --> 01:45:02,010
It has the most epic
last five minutes
2212
01:45:02,033 --> 01:45:04,136
of any movie you'll ever see.
2213
01:45:19,689 --> 01:45:21,319
"Eyes of Fire".
2214
01:45:21,344 --> 01:45:24,010
The secret is
sleeping in the trees.
2215
01:45:24,033 --> 01:45:25,148
"Eyes of Fire" is a weird one,
2216
01:45:25,171 --> 01:45:26,837
because it's set in the 1700s,
2217
01:45:26,862 --> 01:45:30,389
and it concerns a preacher
who is accused of adultery,
2218
01:45:30,412 --> 01:45:32,181
and is banished from town.
2219
01:45:32,206 --> 01:45:33,631
And he and his family
find themselves
2220
01:45:33,654 --> 01:45:37,216
in the woods beset by
spirits of Native Americans.
2221
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:40,319
God damn them!
2222
01:45:40,344 --> 01:45:44,043
"Eyes of Fire" is an
American folk horror movie.
2223
01:45:44,068 --> 01:45:47,000
This valley is where
the lost blood gathers.
2224
01:45:48,481 --> 01:45:49,862
It's the home of the devil.
2225
01:45:51,068 --> 01:45:51,976
If you believe in it.
2226
01:45:52,001 --> 01:45:53,251
This film is entirely unique,
2227
01:45:53,274 --> 01:45:56,561
shot by a photographer
called Avery Crounse.
2228
01:45:56,586 --> 01:45:59,043
I don't believe he'd made
a feature film before this,
2229
01:45:59,068 --> 01:46:00,872
and he's only made
a couple since.
2230
01:46:00,895 --> 01:46:03,631
It is a very photogenic
folk horror movie
2231
01:46:03,654 --> 01:46:05,240
shot in the woods.
2232
01:46:10,654 --> 01:46:13,216
As opposed to the meat
and potato slasher stuff
2233
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:15,802
of the 80s, there's a
lot of surreal imagery,
2234
01:46:15,827 --> 01:46:18,457
and surreal moments,
faces in trees,
2235
01:46:18,481 --> 01:46:20,907
just weird
hallucinogenic moments
2236
01:46:20,930 --> 01:46:23,078
that don't feel of a piece
with the 80s, necessarily,
2237
01:46:23,103 --> 01:46:25,136
which in itself
makes it exciting.
2238
01:46:29,310 --> 01:46:31,930
This is what makes it
really unique and stick out.
2239
01:46:38,895 --> 01:46:40,113
Folk horror is a
very broad subgenre,
2240
01:46:40,136 --> 01:46:42,769
but it had a real moment
in the 60s and 70s,
2241
01:46:42,792 --> 01:46:44,837
and was primarily
a British thing,
2242
01:46:44,862 --> 01:46:47,251
so the fact that you're
seeing a folk horror film,
2243
01:46:47,274 --> 01:46:50,113
A, in the 80s, and
B, set in America,
2244
01:46:50,136 --> 01:46:51,595
was a bit unusual.
2245
01:46:51,619 --> 01:46:54,975
It was independently
produced by Avery Crounse.
2246
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:56,389
He basically moved on.
2247
01:46:56,412 --> 01:46:59,344
He didn't particularly connect
with the film industry.
2248
01:47:00,586 --> 01:47:02,493
We went to great
effort to find him
2249
01:47:02,516 --> 01:47:04,113
so that we could
include "Eyes of Fire"
2250
01:47:04,136 --> 01:47:06,975
in our All the Haunts Be
Ours folk horror box set.
2251
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:09,423
He basically still
owned the movie.
2252
01:47:09,448 --> 01:47:12,043
He had the negative
in a storage unit,
2253
01:47:12,068 --> 01:47:14,493
and it had been sitting there
since the 80s, basically.
2254
01:47:14,516 --> 01:47:16,551
Had not been scanned since.
2255
01:47:17,724 --> 01:47:19,068
I can see again.
2256
01:47:21,136 --> 01:47:24,043
He sent it here so that
we could scan it here
2257
01:47:24,068 --> 01:47:27,216
at Severin office, and he
even had a previous version
2258
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:29,457
called "Crying Blue
Sky", which was longer,
2259
01:47:29,481 --> 01:47:32,148
and we were able to scan that
and include that as well.
2260
01:47:32,171 --> 01:47:34,251
So the reason it had
been out of distribution
2261
01:47:34,274 --> 01:47:36,595
was just because he
was out of the business
2262
01:47:36,619 --> 01:47:39,448
and had not been
traceable since.
2263
01:47:42,171 --> 01:47:43,389
Don't worry, my child.
2264
01:47:43,412 --> 01:47:45,792
Luckily we were able to get it.
2265
01:47:59,516 --> 01:48:00,354
"Boarding House".
2266
01:48:00,378 --> 01:48:01,378
Rated R.
2267
01:48:02,551 --> 01:48:05,000
"Boarding House".
2268
01:48:11,033 --> 01:48:12,457
It was a movie
that didn't do well
2269
01:48:12,481 --> 01:48:15,527
that has gained a cult
following through the years.
2270
01:48:15,551 --> 01:48:19,148
John Wintergate, and
his wife Kalassu,
2271
01:48:19,171 --> 01:48:20,975
I believe they're
a little drunk,
2272
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,457
and they watched a
horror film at home,
2273
01:48:23,481 --> 01:48:25,113
and they both have the idea
2274
01:48:25,136 --> 01:48:27,068
of we can do that.
2275
01:48:31,274 --> 01:48:34,113
An interview John
Wintergate was watching
2276
01:48:34,136 --> 01:48:38,389
where George Lucas stated
that video is the future.
2277
01:48:38,412 --> 01:48:41,734
He got this idea it was easy
to make a movie on video.
2278
01:48:41,757 --> 01:48:44,010
You buy a video camera
for a few hundred dollars,
2279
01:48:44,033 --> 01:48:46,561
and you buy some blank
tapes, and you shoot a movie.
2280
01:48:46,586 --> 01:48:48,010
What is that?
2281
01:48:48,033 --> 01:48:48,872
It's apple juice.
2282
01:48:48,895 --> 01:48:49,804
Oh my god.
2283
01:48:49,828 --> 01:48:50,975
You didn't have to say that.
2284
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:52,664
They decided to
make a horror comedy.
2285
01:48:52,689 --> 01:48:56,206
They made the first big
shot on video movie.
2286
01:49:00,206 --> 01:49:01,354
But Wintergate and Kalassu
2287
01:49:01,378 --> 01:49:03,389
wrote, directed,
starred in this film,
2288
01:49:03,412 --> 01:49:04,769
did the music for it as well.
2289
01:49:04,792 --> 01:49:06,206
They were both musicians.
2290
01:49:08,378 --> 01:49:10,769
The husband and wife,
making something different.
2291
01:49:10,792 --> 01:49:12,423
When people watch the
movie, it's like wow,
2292
01:49:12,448 --> 01:49:13,631
this movie's crazy.
2293
01:49:13,654 --> 01:49:14,872
It's doing all these
sorts of things
2294
01:49:14,895 --> 01:49:15,804
that don't relate
to one another.
2295
01:49:15,828 --> 01:49:17,251
I'm preparing the Thorazine
2296
01:49:17,274 --> 01:49:19,423
for Mr. Ratchet's shock therapy.
2297
01:49:19,448 --> 01:49:20,907
Well, that's 'cause
it's heavily cut,
2298
01:49:20,930 --> 01:49:22,457
and that horror
comedy ended up being
2299
01:49:22,481 --> 01:49:24,043
two hours and 30 minutes long.
2300
01:49:24,068 --> 01:49:26,378
The distributors
did not like that.
2301
01:49:31,930 --> 01:49:33,975
They told to recut the
movie into what we got
2302
01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:35,699
with "Boarding House",
which is an hour and a half
2303
01:49:35,724 --> 01:49:38,000
of a crazy, bizarre movie.
2304
01:49:40,344 --> 01:49:42,837
They cut out all the
comedy in the movie,
2305
01:49:42,862 --> 01:49:45,699
and tried to cut it as
a serious horror film.
2306
01:49:45,724 --> 01:49:48,631
I think that explains
a lot of the weirdness
2307
01:49:48,654 --> 01:49:49,802
in "Boarding House".
2308
01:49:49,827 --> 01:49:51,930
Watch.
2309
01:49:55,551 --> 01:49:58,664
This was the first,
and probably only,
2310
01:49:58,689 --> 01:50:00,631
wide release of a
shot on video movie
2311
01:50:00,654 --> 01:50:01,907
to screen and theaters,
2312
01:50:01,930 --> 01:50:03,907
because he blew up
35 millimeter prints,
2313
01:50:03,930 --> 01:50:06,171
which was very costly.
2314
01:50:09,586 --> 01:50:11,975
"Blood Cult" is
sometimes considered
2315
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:15,493
the first shot on video
film, but it is not.
2316
01:50:15,516 --> 01:50:18,769
"Blood Cult" was the
first shot on video movie
2317
01:50:18,792 --> 01:50:21,216
made for the video
market on home video.
2318
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:22,664
"Blood Cult".
2319
01:50:22,689 --> 01:50:25,516
The first movie made especially
for the home video market.
2320
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:30,619
"Boarding House" paved
the way for shot on video.
2321
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,837
Filmmakers took notice that
you could buy a video camera,
2322
01:50:38,862 --> 01:50:41,561
or borrow your parents',
because they probably have one,
2323
01:50:41,586 --> 01:50:43,769
and then start shooting
movies with your friends.
2324
01:50:43,792 --> 01:50:46,595
That kick started the
shot on video boom.
2325
01:50:46,619 --> 01:50:48,734
You are trespassing.
2326
01:50:48,757 --> 01:50:53,654
This is my house!
2327
01:51:03,378 --> 01:51:04,940
Throughout the
80s, Asia were making
2328
01:51:04,965 --> 01:51:06,975
all of these horror films
that didn't really get
2329
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:09,389
much seen across the world,
2330
01:51:09,412 --> 01:51:11,802
but they were producing
some incredible stuff,
2331
01:51:11,827 --> 01:51:13,344
from interesting places.
2332
01:51:16,551 --> 01:51:19,078
I grew up in a half
Asian household.
2333
01:51:19,103 --> 01:51:21,286
My mum is from Philippines.
2334
01:51:21,310 --> 01:51:24,595
She made sure I was
aware that monsters
2335
01:51:24,619 --> 01:51:27,206
and ghosts and
creatures are real.
2336
01:51:32,310 --> 01:51:35,481
Asian horror just really
gets under your skin.
2337
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:40,734
The first time I was exposed
to Asian horror movies
2338
01:51:40,757 --> 01:51:45,216
was when the whole boom came
with "The Ring", "Ju-on".
2339
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:46,493
"The Grudge".
2340
01:51:46,516 --> 01:51:48,595
That opened a whole
new world for me.
2341
01:51:48,619 --> 01:51:52,206
I just thought, okay this is
the stuff of my nightmares.
2342
01:51:59,344 --> 01:52:04,113
I think that Japanese
people don't care as much
2343
01:52:04,136 --> 01:52:05,975
in the realism.
2344
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:08,286
It's more deep symbolism,
2345
01:52:08,310 --> 01:52:12,975
and much more thought
out inner mental things,
2346
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,965
rather than just the
coherent storytelling.
2347
01:52:16,965 --> 01:52:18,965
That is more important to me.
2348
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:24,423
Their points of
reference for what's scary
2349
01:52:24,448 --> 01:52:25,940
are often very different.
2350
01:52:25,965 --> 01:52:27,493
A lot of western horror,
there's a Judeo-Christian
2351
01:52:27,516 --> 01:52:29,516
sort of root to it.
2352
01:52:30,757 --> 01:52:33,699
And their fears and
their preoccupations,
2353
01:52:33,724 --> 01:52:36,010
and their boogeymen come
from a different place.
2354
01:52:36,033 --> 01:52:38,078
And it's exciting to see
that cultural difference,
2355
01:52:38,103 --> 01:52:40,493
exciting to see
what scares people
2356
01:52:40,516 --> 01:52:41,965
in a culture that's
not your own.
2357
01:52:43,792 --> 01:52:45,769
I was very attracted
to the Asian flow
2358
01:52:45,792 --> 01:52:50,493
of movies coming in that
are about dream scapes,
2359
01:52:50,516 --> 01:52:53,286
that are about ghosts,
anything like that,
2360
01:52:53,310 --> 01:52:56,493
that gets me off in a
way that is both scary
2361
01:52:56,516 --> 01:52:59,103
and not as uncomfortable
as seeing a lot of blood.
2362
01:53:01,689 --> 01:53:03,664
My favorite Japanese
horror movie from the 80s
2363
01:53:03,689 --> 01:53:07,527
by far is "Sweet Home"
because it's so, so, so nuts.
2364
01:53:07,551 --> 01:53:10,043
At the same time, Capcom
released a game version,
2365
01:53:10,068 --> 01:53:12,940
which is almost better
than the actual film.
2366
01:53:12,965 --> 01:53:16,354
It's also the influence for
"Resident Evil" as well.
2367
01:53:16,378 --> 01:53:18,527
"Resident Evil".
2368
01:53:18,551 --> 01:53:21,699
So Kiyoshi Kurosawa, he's
the director of "Sweet Home".
2369
01:53:21,724 --> 01:53:23,423
And he went on to
do some of the best
2370
01:53:23,448 --> 01:53:26,251
Japanese horror
movies of the late 90s
2371
01:53:26,274 --> 01:53:27,802
and early 2000s.
2372
01:53:27,827 --> 01:53:29,631
If it wasn't for
him leading the way
2373
01:53:29,654 --> 01:53:31,975
making Japanese movies that
could potentially appeal
2374
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:34,113
to a Western audience,
you wouldn't have had
2375
01:53:34,136 --> 01:53:36,103
this J-horror explosion.
2376
01:53:39,378 --> 01:53:40,664
When you mention
80s Asian horror,
2377
01:53:40,689 --> 01:53:42,975
a lot of people think
of "House" from Japan,
2378
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:45,586
although that one's from 1977.
2379
01:53:49,344 --> 01:53:50,872
If you watch Japanese horror,
2380
01:53:50,895 --> 01:53:53,389
if you watch something
from Thailand,
2381
01:53:53,412 --> 01:53:55,043
if you watch something
from South Korea,
2382
01:53:55,068 --> 01:53:57,078
you're going to get a
different experience
2383
01:53:57,103 --> 01:53:58,354
from each of those.
2384
01:53:58,378 --> 01:54:00,561
South Korea's horror
movement that happened
2385
01:54:00,586 --> 01:54:04,136
just after J-horror explosion
has been incredible.
2386
01:54:07,171 --> 01:54:09,940
South Korea, Indonesia,
and the Philippines
2387
01:54:09,965 --> 01:54:12,631
kind of came into their
own regarding horror
2388
01:54:12,654 --> 01:54:14,216
a little bit later.
2389
01:54:14,240 --> 01:54:16,802
In terms of horror that's
commercially viable
2390
01:54:16,827 --> 01:54:18,310
in the Western world.
2391
01:54:21,619 --> 01:54:23,837
In the Philippines, there's
actually a lot of horror.
2392
01:54:23,862 --> 01:54:27,940
It's very sad that I can
not count on one hand
2393
01:54:27,965 --> 01:54:29,940
how many cross over to America.
2394
01:54:29,965 --> 01:54:32,148
One of the best
places for Asian horror,
2395
01:54:32,171 --> 01:54:34,862
especially out of
the 80s, was China.
2396
01:54:37,378 --> 01:54:39,975
A lot of it was based
on the mythology.
2397
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:43,354
We see demons, vampires,
ghosts, poltergeists,
2398
01:54:43,378 --> 01:54:46,310
a lot of witches, a
lot of wizards as well.
2399
01:54:49,412 --> 01:54:51,493
Some movies you should
definitely check out
2400
01:54:51,516 --> 01:54:54,286
are "Kung Fu Zombie",
"Human Lanterns",
2401
01:54:54,310 --> 01:54:57,113
"Seeding of a Ghost",
and "Witch from Nepal"
2402
01:54:57,136 --> 01:54:58,757
with Chow Yun-Fat.
2403
01:55:03,171 --> 01:55:05,389
We know the Shaw
Brothers and Golden Harvest
2404
01:55:05,412 --> 01:55:08,457
as the purveyors of incredible
martial arts movies,
2405
01:55:08,481 --> 01:55:12,862
but they also dip their toe
in a lot of horror as well.
2406
01:55:16,930 --> 01:55:18,043
Asian horror cinema,
2407
01:55:18,068 --> 01:55:19,895
I like vampire movies for that.
2408
01:55:22,274 --> 01:55:26,274
Scary things that there is a
story of how they got scary.
2409
01:55:29,619 --> 01:55:30,907
The way they
present their monsters
2410
01:55:30,930 --> 01:55:33,286
is just so
fundamentally different
2411
01:55:33,310 --> 01:55:36,769
than how the Western
stereotype of a vampire
2412
01:55:36,792 --> 01:55:39,000
is just completely blown
up in an Asian film.
2413
01:55:40,448 --> 01:55:43,423
I'm completely obsessed
by the "Mr. Vampire" movies.
2414
01:55:43,448 --> 01:55:46,802
I'd never seen Jiangshi
vampires before.
2415
01:55:46,827 --> 01:55:50,113
I was mesmerized by
how comedic they were.
2416
01:55:50,136 --> 01:55:51,378
They hop.
2417
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:56,631
When you watch "Mr. Vampire",
2418
01:55:56,654 --> 01:55:58,527
you see why people
are scared of them,
2419
01:55:58,551 --> 01:56:00,181
because they are relentless,
2420
01:56:00,206 --> 01:56:01,975
and you have to know
all of the tricks
2421
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:03,000
in order to defeat them.
2422
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,586
"The Jitters" is
an unusual film.
2423
01:56:12,757 --> 01:56:15,389
Plus "The Jitters" was
directed by John Fasano
2424
01:56:15,412 --> 01:56:16,664
and not a Chinese guy.
2425
01:56:16,689 --> 01:56:18,457
There's a little bit
lost in translation.
2426
01:56:18,481 --> 01:56:20,837
It played fast and loose
with Chinese mythology
2427
01:56:20,862 --> 01:56:21,862
quite a lot.
2428
01:56:22,862 --> 01:56:25,802
Someone thought that
since they're so popular
2429
01:56:25,827 --> 01:56:28,423
over there, we'd make
an American version
2430
01:56:28,448 --> 01:56:31,619
of these movies, and
see how that does.
2431
01:56:32,448 --> 01:56:33,699
I got him!
2432
01:56:33,724 --> 01:56:35,148
I'm uncomfortable
with the movie now,
2433
01:56:35,171 --> 01:56:39,481
because there's a lot of
racial stereotypes in there,
2434
01:56:40,862 --> 01:56:43,078
at the time, I didn't
really think was a big deal,
2435
01:56:43,103 --> 01:56:44,412
but it is.
2436
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,043
Understanding horror
explored through the lens
2437
01:56:53,068 --> 01:56:55,148
of other cultures, it's
an important thing,
2438
01:56:55,171 --> 01:56:56,699
and it's a cool thing.
2439
01:56:56,724 --> 01:56:58,493
Different cultures have
all these different kinds
2440
01:56:58,516 --> 01:57:00,769
of mythologies to draw from,
2441
01:57:00,792 --> 01:57:03,664
and there's just this
endless well of stories
2442
01:57:03,689 --> 01:57:04,930
that we can build upon.
2443
01:57:06,619 --> 01:57:09,423
When you're talking
about Asian horror now,
2444
01:57:09,448 --> 01:57:12,113
people are looking at it
from a broader perspective
2445
01:57:12,136 --> 01:57:15,319
because they've been able
to watch these movies.
2446
01:57:15,344 --> 01:57:18,734
Whereas in the 80s, a lot
of them were available,
2447
01:57:18,757 --> 01:57:22,551
but they just never really made
it outside of their markets.
2448
01:57:24,516 --> 01:57:26,148
Asian horror was
somewhat inaccessible
2449
01:57:26,171 --> 01:57:27,389
to a lot of us in the 80s.
2450
01:57:27,412 --> 01:57:28,837
Video stores didn't
carry a lot of it,
2451
01:57:28,862 --> 01:57:31,872
and it's only after J-horror
came up after the fact
2452
01:57:31,895 --> 01:57:34,010
that then suddenly we're
retroactively going back
2453
01:57:34,033 --> 01:57:35,837
into these catalogs and
finding these titles
2454
01:57:35,862 --> 01:57:38,516
that were not on our
radar in the 80s.
2455
01:57:41,136 --> 01:57:42,561
In a way that's kind of cool,
2456
01:57:42,586 --> 01:57:44,734
because then that's a
bucket of 80s horror
2457
01:57:44,757 --> 01:57:47,000
that we can go back
and look for now.
2458
01:58:00,895 --> 01:58:04,837
School was
hell, but vacation was murder.
2459
01:58:04,862 --> 01:58:05,862
"The Mutilator".
2460
01:58:06,654 --> 01:58:07,872
"The Mutilator".
2461
01:58:07,895 --> 01:58:09,802
It was originally
titled "Fall Break",
2462
01:58:09,827 --> 01:58:12,837
but the filmmakers apparently
felt "The Mutilator"
2463
01:58:12,862 --> 01:58:15,389
was a much more
user friendly title.
2464
01:58:15,412 --> 01:58:18,631
Four days of R
and R at the beach.
2465
01:58:18,654 --> 01:58:19,458
I'm in.
2466
01:58:19,483 --> 01:58:20,631
Sounds good to me.
2467
01:58:20,654 --> 01:58:22,389
I got a bad feeling about this.
2468
01:58:22,412 --> 01:58:23,907
College kids on
their fall break,
2469
01:58:23,930 --> 01:58:26,595
and they get picked
off one by one.
2470
01:58:26,619 --> 01:58:31,551
I'm coming to get you!
2471
01:58:33,827 --> 01:58:37,010
By different use of power tools,
2472
01:58:37,033 --> 01:58:39,103
and home repair tools.
2473
01:58:41,310 --> 01:58:43,631
One of the friends,
his dad hates him
2474
01:58:43,654 --> 01:58:46,103
because he blames him for
the death of his mother.
2475
01:58:49,689 --> 01:58:52,078
Just like this angry
dad who hates his son
2476
01:58:52,103 --> 01:58:54,757
and is gonna take it out
on him and his friends.
2477
01:59:00,516 --> 01:59:02,078
"The Mutilator" is
one of those that tries
2478
01:59:02,103 --> 01:59:04,975
to present as a comedy,
but isn't sure it wants
2479
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:06,664
to be a comedy,
and you're not sure
2480
01:59:06,689 --> 01:59:08,940
if you're supposed to be
laughing at a lot of it.
2481
01:59:08,965 --> 01:59:10,734
Looks like the party's
over for this joker.
2482
01:59:10,757 --> 01:59:12,907
Oh.
2483
01:59:12,930 --> 01:59:14,078
Yeah.
2484
01:59:14,103 --> 01:59:15,769
My dad ran over him
with a ski boat.
2485
01:59:15,792 --> 01:59:17,493
It's dancing to the
beat of its own drum.
2486
01:59:17,516 --> 01:59:19,010
What's wrong with the water?
2487
01:59:19,033 --> 01:59:21,595
It looks like it's been
loaded down with chlorine.
2488
01:59:21,619 --> 01:59:23,354
Will that hurt you?
2489
01:59:23,378 --> 01:59:25,595
No, in fact it
probably prevents herpes.
2490
01:59:25,619 --> 01:59:28,286
The art for "The
Mutilator" has this tagline
2491
01:59:28,310 --> 01:59:33,310
that says by sword, by
pick, by ax, bye-bye.
2492
01:59:34,171 --> 01:59:36,286
Catchy title, catchy tagline,
2493
01:59:36,310 --> 01:59:38,103
and some eye-grabbing art.
2494
01:59:39,274 --> 01:59:42,010
The more extreme the
exploitation level is,
2495
01:59:42,033 --> 01:59:43,907
the more likely a teen
is gonna rent that.
2496
01:59:43,930 --> 01:59:45,586
And that's the idea.
2497
01:59:49,930 --> 01:59:51,043
And that's why we
love these movies
2498
01:59:51,068 --> 01:59:52,481
so much to this day.
2499
02:00:05,895 --> 02:00:08,286
My first film in America,
2500
02:00:08,310 --> 02:00:11,389
which is absolutely adored
doing, was "Maniac",
2501
02:00:11,412 --> 02:00:15,286
and I got to work with my
lovely Joe Spinell again,
2502
02:00:15,310 --> 02:00:18,586
who I first met in "Star Crash".
2503
02:00:21,551 --> 02:00:23,907
People connect with Joe Spinell.
2504
02:00:23,930 --> 02:00:26,412
He is a compelling
actor to watch.
2505
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:29,457
I loved working with
Joe because he was
2506
02:00:29,481 --> 02:00:33,619
such a brilliant actor,
and a sweet, dear person.
2507
02:00:35,689 --> 02:00:38,907
"The Last Horror Film" is
about New York cab driver
2508
02:00:38,930 --> 02:00:41,561
who's obsessed with
Caroline Munroe,
2509
02:00:41,586 --> 02:00:43,907
and he follows her to
the Cannes Film Festival
2510
02:00:43,930 --> 02:00:46,724
where a serial killer
is on the loose.
2511
02:00:50,792 --> 02:00:52,527
It was called "The
Last Horror Film",
2512
02:00:52,551 --> 02:00:54,862
and then they called it
"Fanatic" after that.
2513
02:00:56,171 --> 02:00:59,113
This film was an unofficial
followup to "Maniac".
2514
02:00:59,136 --> 02:01:00,354
I got talent, ma!
2515
02:01:00,378 --> 02:01:01,907
I'm gonna be a great
director someday!
2516
02:01:01,930 --> 02:01:03,181
Don't yell at your mother!
2517
02:01:03,206 --> 02:01:04,975
It's great to see Joe Spinell
2518
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:06,561
and Caroline Munroe together,
2519
02:01:06,586 --> 02:01:08,448
and I think the
pairing is fantastic.
2520
02:01:09,551 --> 02:01:10,595
Who is it?
2521
02:01:10,619 --> 02:01:11,802
We were an odd couple.
2522
02:01:11,827 --> 02:01:13,181
We were, weren't we?
2523
02:01:13,206 --> 02:01:15,216
Jana Bates is going to
star in my next movie.
2524
02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:16,149
It's all set.
2525
02:01:16,172 --> 02:01:17,561
I'm producing and directing.
2526
02:01:17,586 --> 02:01:19,769
Vinny, are you sure
you're making a movie?
2527
02:01:19,792 --> 02:01:21,802
He was wonderful in that film.
2528
02:01:21,827 --> 02:01:24,251
Very quirky, very quirky.
2529
02:01:24,274 --> 02:01:27,595
And my character, she
was spooked by Joe,
2530
02:01:27,619 --> 02:01:31,043
because Joe had an obsession
for this actress, Jana Bates.
2531
02:01:31,068 --> 02:01:33,043
Who are you?
2532
02:01:33,068 --> 02:01:34,286
Get out.
2533
02:01:34,310 --> 02:01:35,389
I thought we'd just have a drink
2534
02:01:35,412 --> 02:01:36,561
and talk about the film.
2535
02:01:36,586 --> 02:01:38,354
You'll be absolutely
perfect in it.
2536
02:01:38,378 --> 02:01:40,078
It was directed
by David Winters,
2537
02:01:40,103 --> 02:01:41,595
who was in "West Side Story",
2538
02:01:41,619 --> 02:01:43,802
and sure enough, they
just showed up in Cannes,
2539
02:01:43,827 --> 02:01:45,595
and started shooting this movie,
2540
02:01:45,619 --> 02:01:47,975
so there's a lot of
run and gun footage
2541
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:50,113
of the Cannes Film Festival.
2542
02:01:50,136 --> 02:01:51,769
One of the first guerrilla films
2543
02:01:51,792 --> 02:01:53,354
to be made there, for sure.
2544
02:01:53,378 --> 02:01:56,907
And I had to run along
the crasette in a towel.
2545
02:01:56,930 --> 02:01:59,595
They were all lined
up, real people,
2546
02:01:59,619 --> 02:02:02,975
to see Jack Nicholson,
Leslie Caron,
2547
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:04,734
go on the red carpet.
2548
02:02:04,757 --> 02:02:06,251
They said Caroline, you're
just gonna have to run
2549
02:02:06,274 --> 02:02:07,493
along the red carpet.
2550
02:02:07,516 --> 02:02:09,010
I said what, I've
got a towel on.
2551
02:02:09,033 --> 02:02:11,895
They said that's okay,
just do your own thing.
2552
02:02:14,000 --> 02:02:15,148
Please!
2553
02:02:15,171 --> 02:02:16,975
Hot damn, that's Jana Bates!
2554
02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:19,940
"The Last Horror Film"
is not as gory as "Maniac"
2555
02:02:19,965 --> 02:02:22,619
but it does have a good
amount of kills in it.
2556
02:02:25,481 --> 02:02:27,481
There's a lot of meta elements.
2557
02:02:28,895 --> 02:02:30,769
There's one bit where
Joe Spinell's in a cinema
2558
02:02:30,792 --> 02:02:32,872
watching a new horror movie,
2559
02:02:32,895 --> 02:02:34,493
and he actually is
eating his popcorn,
2560
02:02:34,516 --> 02:02:35,664
and starts throwing up
2561
02:02:35,689 --> 02:02:38,000
because it's too
gross, too disgusting.
2562
02:02:40,724 --> 02:02:42,181
It's questioning horror movies
2563
02:02:42,206 --> 02:02:44,493
because "Maniac" got
a lot of backlash
2564
02:02:44,516 --> 02:02:46,664
because of how
misogynistic it was.
2565
02:02:46,689 --> 02:02:49,734
Now tell us why you're
such a failure, Vinny.
2566
02:02:49,757 --> 02:02:51,216
I'm a genius.
2567
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:53,113
Jana Bates is going
to star in my movie.
2568
02:02:53,136 --> 02:02:54,216
She loves me!
2569
02:02:54,240 --> 02:02:56,010
It's a very bizarre film.
2570
02:02:56,033 --> 02:02:58,631
So I would think
the ultimate theme
2571
02:02:58,654 --> 02:03:00,940
for "The Last Horror
Film" or "The Fanatic"
2572
02:03:00,965 --> 02:03:02,664
would have to be obsession.
2573
02:03:02,689 --> 02:03:03,493
Obsessive love.
2574
02:03:03,518 --> 02:03:04,769
He loved her.
2575
02:03:04,792 --> 02:03:07,561
Or he loved what he
saw of her onscreen.
2576
02:03:07,586 --> 02:03:09,286
But he didn't know her.
2577
02:03:09,310 --> 02:03:11,149
Could you move your
head a little to the right
2578
02:03:11,689 --> 02:03:12,862
in this space?
2579
02:03:14,792 --> 02:03:16,516
Perfect, just perfect.
2580
02:03:21,862 --> 02:03:23,043
I always think it's
really interesting
2581
02:03:23,068 --> 02:03:25,975
when the protagonist
of a horror film,
2582
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:28,389
especially in this
period, is a guy,
2583
02:03:28,412 --> 02:03:30,699
because usually we
associate the 80s
2584
02:03:30,724 --> 02:03:35,136
as the time where final
girls came into full force.
2585
02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:40,078
"Mutant".
2586
02:03:40,103 --> 02:03:41,493
"Mutant", originally released
2587
02:03:41,516 --> 02:03:43,734
as "Night Shadows" theatrically.
2588
02:03:43,757 --> 02:03:46,734
It turned up on VHS as "Mutant".
2589
02:03:46,757 --> 02:03:50,043
The two very capable
leads are Wings Hauser
2590
02:03:50,068 --> 02:03:51,561
and Lee Montgomery.
2591
02:03:51,586 --> 02:03:54,216
Our car broke down and we
just need a place to stay.
2592
02:03:54,240 --> 02:03:56,148
We'll be gone first thing
in the morning, I promise.
2593
02:03:56,171 --> 02:03:58,423
They end up in a dead end town
2594
02:03:58,448 --> 02:04:00,619
because their car messed up.
2595
02:04:02,378 --> 02:04:03,699
They go to the local bar,
2596
02:04:03,724 --> 02:04:06,078
and instantly these
locals beat them up,
2597
02:04:06,103 --> 02:04:07,354
rough them up.
2598
02:04:07,378 --> 02:04:08,895
Oh no!
2599
02:04:10,378 --> 02:04:12,975
They end up being patched
up by the local doctor.
2600
02:04:13,000 --> 02:04:15,078
And they start to get
their first inklings
2601
02:04:15,103 --> 02:04:16,631
that something is
wrong in this town,
2602
02:04:16,654 --> 02:04:18,493
that people are going missing.
2603
02:04:18,516 --> 02:04:21,457
This is toxic waste
infecting a small community
2604
02:04:21,481 --> 02:04:24,136
and turning them into zombies.
2605
02:04:25,378 --> 02:04:26,907
This mutation somehow causes
2606
02:04:26,930 --> 02:04:28,516
an increasing need for blood.
2607
02:04:30,481 --> 02:04:32,010
Just so many zombies.
2608
02:04:32,033 --> 02:04:33,654
They're all over the place.
2609
02:04:37,412 --> 02:04:39,586
It was obviously
inspired by George Romero.
2610
02:04:42,344 --> 02:04:43,595
And you see this
in a lot of films,
2611
02:04:43,619 --> 02:04:44,802
like "Return of
the Living Dead",
2612
02:04:44,827 --> 02:04:46,319
and you see it in a
lot of the Troma films.
2613
02:04:46,344 --> 02:04:48,827
Toxic waste was a
big thing in the 80s.
2614
02:04:51,724 --> 02:04:53,975
I like my zombies to be serious.
2615
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:56,043
They definitely got
the vibe of what made
2616
02:04:56,068 --> 02:04:57,654
those movies so much fun.
2617
02:04:59,412 --> 02:05:00,940
No!
2618
02:05:00,965 --> 02:05:02,286
The effects are kind of hokey,
2619
02:05:02,310 --> 02:05:04,527
because when these
zombies approach you,
2620
02:05:04,551 --> 02:05:06,802
and they touch you, which
ultimately turns you
2621
02:05:06,827 --> 02:05:10,010
into a zombie, all this
steam comes off you,
2622
02:05:10,033 --> 02:05:12,319
almost like they're
pressing a shirt,
2623
02:05:12,344 --> 02:05:14,033
like a big life sized iron.
2624
02:05:18,136 --> 02:05:19,457
Jack?
2625
02:05:19,481 --> 02:05:20,907
But there's one
real cool sequence
2626
02:05:20,930 --> 02:05:22,595
where you just know
there's gonna be a zombie.
2627
02:05:22,619 --> 02:05:23,837
You just know it.
2628
02:05:23,862 --> 02:05:25,907
And then she slowly
goes over to him,
2629
02:05:25,930 --> 02:05:28,206
slowly pulls out the covers.
2630
02:05:30,862 --> 02:05:34,240
These locals just inherently
hate other people.
2631
02:05:37,310 --> 02:05:39,907
Some secrets should
remain secret,
2632
02:05:39,930 --> 02:05:42,010
and the way you do
that is by keeping
2633
02:05:42,033 --> 02:05:44,033
all the outsiders away.
2634
02:05:59,689 --> 02:06:02,907
"The New York Ripper"
is a very violent giallo
2635
02:06:02,930 --> 02:06:05,664
made by Lucio Fulci
after he'd already made
2636
02:06:05,689 --> 02:06:07,286
"Zombie Flesh
Eaters", "The Beyond",
2637
02:06:07,310 --> 02:06:08,975
and "House by the Cemetery".
2638
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:11,457
Fulci was kind of riding
high at this point
2639
02:06:11,481 --> 02:06:12,664
in his career.
2640
02:06:12,689 --> 02:06:14,975
"Zombie" was a huge
success internationally
2641
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:17,872
by the standards of Italian
exploitation movies.
2642
02:06:17,895 --> 02:06:20,551
He went on and decided
to make a thriller.
2643
02:06:21,619 --> 02:06:23,792
About a ripper in New York.
2644
02:06:25,792 --> 02:06:28,527
During this time, a lot
of Italian filmmakers
2645
02:06:28,551 --> 02:06:32,664
would come to the US and
shoot establishing footage,
2646
02:06:32,689 --> 02:06:35,389
and that's all tied into
how Italian filmmakers
2647
02:06:35,412 --> 02:06:38,551
were trying to make their
films seem American.
2648
02:06:42,136 --> 02:06:44,664
The killer in the
film has a Donald Duck
2649
02:06:44,689 --> 02:06:46,699
kind of quacking voice.
2650
02:06:46,724 --> 02:06:48,181
Said he called back.
2651
02:06:48,206 --> 02:06:49,895
Sounded just like a duck.
2652
02:06:52,171 --> 02:06:53,389
Like a duck?
2653
02:06:53,412 --> 02:06:55,354
Which adds to the
element of the bizarre
2654
02:06:55,378 --> 02:06:58,181
of this movie, and I
think it shows Fulci's
2655
02:06:58,206 --> 02:07:00,136
sense of humor as well.
2656
02:07:03,068 --> 02:07:05,181
There's a fair amount
of sleaze in the movie
2657
02:07:05,206 --> 02:07:06,792
as well, and nudity.
2658
02:07:10,654 --> 02:07:13,251
There's a very famous
sequence in the film
2659
02:07:13,274 --> 02:07:15,181
where an actress
is tied to a bed,
2660
02:07:15,206 --> 02:07:17,181
and essentially
gets razor bladed
2661
02:07:17,206 --> 02:07:18,975
in the eye and in the nipple,
2662
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:22,251
and it's extremely
graphic and close up,
2663
02:07:22,274 --> 02:07:24,457
but it has that ocular violence
2664
02:07:24,481 --> 02:07:26,216
that Fulci had
become famous for,
2665
02:07:26,240 --> 02:07:28,907
and he was trying
to outdo, it seems,
2666
02:07:28,930 --> 02:07:30,872
in every movie that he did.
2667
02:07:30,895 --> 02:07:32,699
It definitely pushed
the boundaries
2668
02:07:32,724 --> 02:07:34,389
of what was acceptable.
2669
02:07:34,412 --> 02:07:36,664
This film made sure
that in England,
2670
02:07:36,689 --> 02:07:38,148
if you were found with a copy,
2671
02:07:38,171 --> 02:07:39,631
you were definitely
having it seized,
2672
02:07:39,654 --> 02:07:41,378
and you would
probably be arrested.
2673
02:07:42,448 --> 02:07:43,425
Like a duck?
2674
02:07:43,448 --> 02:07:44,527
Quack, quack, quack.
2675
02:07:44,551 --> 02:07:45,792
Just like that.
2676
02:07:52,206 --> 02:07:53,586
"The Initiation".
2677
02:07:54,827 --> 02:07:56,216
The ceremony that
will never die,
2678
02:07:56,240 --> 02:07:58,699
as long as new blood is pledged.
2679
02:07:58,724 --> 02:08:00,975
I rented that movie
the very first time,
2680
02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:04,595
because I loved Daphne
Zuniga in "Spaceballs",
2681
02:08:04,619 --> 02:08:06,457
and it was right when
Melrose Place was hitting.
2682
02:08:06,481 --> 02:08:08,940
And we've got a
girl in a sorority,
2683
02:08:08,965 --> 02:08:11,274
she's being hazed.
2684
02:08:13,757 --> 02:08:16,181
Her character, Kelly, is
having these nightmares,
2685
02:08:16,206 --> 02:08:18,216
so she actually goes
through a sleep study
2686
02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:19,423
trying to figure out the reason
2687
02:08:19,448 --> 02:08:20,664
behind her nightmares.
2688
02:08:20,689 --> 02:08:22,734
It's fairly common for
the subconscious mind
2689
02:08:22,757 --> 02:08:25,493
to fictionalize certain
emotional states.
2690
02:08:25,516 --> 02:08:27,699
There's a woman
committing adultery
2691
02:08:27,724 --> 02:08:28,975
with another guy.
2692
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:31,010
A little girl comes
in and catches them,
2693
02:08:31,033 --> 02:08:32,940
starts stabbing the
crap out of somebody,
2694
02:08:32,965 --> 02:08:34,802
and then the guy goes on fire,
2695
02:08:34,827 --> 02:08:37,078
and she can't
remember what happens.
2696
02:08:37,103 --> 02:08:38,802
I was in a coma
for three months,
2697
02:08:38,827 --> 02:08:40,664
and they kept me in this
private hospital in Chicago.
2698
02:08:40,689 --> 02:08:42,181
When I came out of
it, I had no memory.
2699
02:08:42,206 --> 02:08:44,457
Her father, who's
played by Clu Gulager,
2700
02:08:44,481 --> 02:08:46,872
owns this big shopping building,
2701
02:08:46,895 --> 02:08:49,561
and she's tasked
with breaking in
2702
02:08:49,586 --> 02:08:53,354
and stealing a night
porter's outfits.
2703
02:08:53,378 --> 02:08:56,206
Course, a lot of
bad things happen.
2704
02:09:02,412 --> 02:09:03,699
It is a movie that
takes a little time
2705
02:09:03,724 --> 02:09:05,699
to get going, but once
they get into that mall,
2706
02:09:05,724 --> 02:09:08,033
there's some really fun kills.
2707
02:09:12,378 --> 02:09:13,979
You're finding bodies
all over the place
2708
02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:18,792
The security guard is a bummer.
2709
02:09:23,206 --> 02:09:25,802
There's so many wacky out
there things in the 80s,
2710
02:09:25,827 --> 02:09:27,423
where I guess they
just tried things
2711
02:09:27,448 --> 02:09:28,965
more than we do now.
2712
02:09:30,103 --> 02:09:32,136
You know, it takes
some leaps and bounds.
2713
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:37,734
Spoiler alert, there's
a twist at the end.
2714
02:09:37,757 --> 02:09:38,757
Peter!
2715
02:09:39,757 --> 02:09:41,527
And you're left
sitting there like,
2716
02:09:41,551 --> 02:09:43,930
wait, what is going on?
2717
02:09:45,792 --> 02:09:46,975
You have to rationalize
it to yourself
2718
02:09:47,000 --> 02:09:48,595
so that you can
move on and finish
2719
02:09:48,619 --> 02:09:49,837
the rest of the movie.
2720
02:09:49,862 --> 02:09:52,078
It's a total shock at the end.
2721
02:09:52,103 --> 02:09:53,423
I've never seen
anything like that
2722
02:09:53,448 --> 02:09:54,664
before in my life.
2723
02:09:54,689 --> 02:09:56,078
The more I think about
it, the more I think
2724
02:09:56,103 --> 02:09:57,895
they just wanted
to blow our minds.
2725
02:10:03,412 --> 02:10:05,792
Scared the shit out of them!
2726
02:10:11,448 --> 02:10:14,113
The only reason that they
would set horror movies
2727
02:10:14,136 --> 02:10:17,699
on holidays is that they
had no marketing budget.
2728
02:10:17,724 --> 02:10:21,354
So it was a way to get
attention from the press.
2729
02:10:21,378 --> 02:10:23,319
Most decisions made in the 80s
2730
02:10:23,344 --> 02:10:25,423
were strictly
financial decisions.
2731
02:10:25,448 --> 02:10:27,010
A present from the people
2732
02:10:27,033 --> 02:10:29,286
who brought you
"Friday the 13th"
2733
02:10:29,310 --> 02:10:32,344
now comes "Don't
Open Till Christmas".
2734
02:10:33,965 --> 02:10:36,561
"Don't Open Till
Christmas" is a real curio,
2735
02:10:36,586 --> 02:10:38,457
a slasher film set in the UK
2736
02:10:38,481 --> 02:10:41,078
about a killer who goes around
2737
02:10:41,103 --> 02:10:43,274
killing people in Santa suits.
2738
02:10:49,378 --> 02:10:50,975
It's almost like
Fulci directed this.
2739
02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:52,527
It's so grimy and slimy,
2740
02:10:52,551 --> 02:10:54,769
and as soon as you step
foot into an alley,
2741
02:10:54,792 --> 02:10:55,827
you're dead meat.
2742
02:10:59,171 --> 02:11:02,631
The reason for the serial
killer killing Santa Claus
2743
02:11:02,654 --> 02:11:06,216
is obviously some trauma
from when he was a kid.
2744
02:11:06,240 --> 02:11:08,699
And you see this in a
flashback streaked dream,
2745
02:11:08,724 --> 02:11:10,493
and he's just been,
for all these years,
2746
02:11:10,516 --> 02:11:13,654
hellbent on getting
revenge on Santa.
2747
02:11:14,895 --> 02:11:17,493
The department store,
you have this big, fat,
2748
02:11:17,516 --> 02:11:19,631
Santa Claus guy,
who's going around
2749
02:11:19,654 --> 02:11:21,699
and leering at all the girls.
2750
02:11:21,724 --> 02:11:22,631
And as soon as he
gets to the toilets,
2751
02:11:22,655 --> 02:11:24,103
you know what's gonna happen.
2752
02:11:25,516 --> 02:11:27,586
And it's just blood
squirting everywhere.
2753
02:11:32,654 --> 02:11:34,344
He gets his apt punishment.
2754
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:37,769
Caroline Munroe turns
up in this film as well,
2755
02:11:37,792 --> 02:11:38,975
which was a surprise.
2756
02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:41,181
She's like a dancer in a club.
2757
02:11:41,206 --> 02:11:43,354
Man, that woman is beautiful.
2758
02:11:43,378 --> 02:11:46,033
If you blink, you're
gonna miss me in it.
2759
02:11:48,033 --> 02:11:49,734
George Dugdale, my husband,
2760
02:11:49,757 --> 02:11:52,975
he did the effects on
"Don't Open Till Christmas".
2761
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:55,769
They got the Piccadilly
Theater in London.
2762
02:11:55,792 --> 02:11:57,940
I went in for about two hours,
2763
02:11:57,965 --> 02:12:00,907
on the thing, and I
wiggled about the stage,
2764
02:12:00,930 --> 02:12:02,837
and kind of sang
"Warrior of Love".
2765
02:12:02,862 --> 02:12:04,802
Basically, that's my bit in it.
2766
02:12:04,827 --> 02:12:07,148
♪ I'm the warrior of love
2767
02:12:07,171 --> 02:12:08,907
♪ Yes I am
2768
02:12:08,930 --> 02:12:10,975
Father Christmas appears,
and the trapdoor,
2769
02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:13,872
just as I'm mid-sing,
and so I react to him,
2770
02:12:13,895 --> 02:12:15,171
the Father Christmas dead.
2771
02:12:20,586 --> 02:12:22,802
Maybe they just needed
a bit of a filler.
2772
02:12:22,827 --> 02:12:25,286
Maybe they thought, oh we've
got five minutes to spare.
2773
02:12:25,310 --> 02:12:26,423
Bang her in.
2774
02:12:26,448 --> 02:12:28,136
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah
2775
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:30,942
A lot of Santas
die in this film,
2776
02:12:30,966 --> 02:12:32,975
so if you are into horror movies
2777
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:35,802
for the festive body count,
then this is the one.
2778
02:12:35,827 --> 02:12:37,551
There's a party going on!
2779
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:40,757
Look, there's
no party here, mate.
2780
02:12:48,930 --> 02:12:51,595
I wasn't allowed to
watch horror movies
2781
02:12:51,619 --> 02:12:56,216
or sci-fi movies when
I was little.
2782
02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:58,907
Because I was too sensitive.
2783
02:12:58,930 --> 02:13:01,975
I was older when I
saw "The Exorcist".
2784
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:05,457
That was the most frightening
movie I've ever seen.
2785
02:13:05,481 --> 02:13:07,457
I felt it could really happen.
2786
02:13:07,481 --> 02:13:10,043
This study of the human psyche
2787
02:13:10,068 --> 02:13:13,837
has always been
prevalent in my work,
2788
02:13:13,862 --> 02:13:15,895
and in why I want to work.
2789
02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:20,802
My whole method
is the less I know
2790
02:13:20,827 --> 02:13:25,586
what's gonna happen, the more
alive in the moment I am.
2791
02:13:27,000 --> 02:13:30,699
The most memorable scene
in "The Hills Have Eyes"
2792
02:13:30,724 --> 02:13:34,389
with Wes was when I had to
work with the tarantula.
2793
02:13:34,412 --> 02:13:37,664
They assured me that
it couldn't hurt me.
2794
02:13:37,689 --> 02:13:42,113
Afterwards, I found out that
oh yeah, it could've.
2795
02:13:42,136 --> 02:13:44,181
And I said Wes, I'm scared.
2796
02:13:44,206 --> 02:13:46,802
And he said, will you trust me,
2797
02:13:46,827 --> 02:13:50,286
that I will make sure
that everything is handled
2798
02:13:50,310 --> 02:13:51,378
so that you're safe?
2799
02:13:53,654 --> 02:13:55,423
And that's just who Wes was.
2800
02:13:55,448 --> 02:13:56,448
You did.
2801
02:13:58,792 --> 02:14:02,734
To me, "The Howling" was
the battle of good and evil,
2802
02:14:02,757 --> 02:14:05,286
which goes on within all of us.
2803
02:14:05,310 --> 02:14:08,457
There was so much
in "The Howling"
2804
02:14:08,481 --> 02:14:13,481
that elevated that film,
because of Joe Dante.
2805
02:14:14,689 --> 02:14:16,872
Joe brings more of who
he is into his films,
2806
02:14:16,895 --> 02:14:20,216
because Joe is very funny.
2807
02:14:20,240 --> 02:14:23,734
And he always finds a way
2808
02:14:23,757 --> 02:14:25,631
to bring that humor,
2809
02:14:25,654 --> 02:14:27,595
even if it's dark humor,
2810
02:14:27,619 --> 02:14:29,757
into his projects.
2811
02:14:33,792 --> 02:14:37,802
"Cujo" was always about
what a mother would do
2812
02:14:37,827 --> 02:14:38,975
for her child.
2813
02:14:39,000 --> 02:14:41,699
It was never a
horror film to me.
2814
02:14:41,724 --> 02:14:45,802
It was a statement of
how far a mother would go
2815
02:14:45,827 --> 02:14:47,907
to keep her kid safe.
2816
02:14:47,930 --> 02:14:50,586
It's not a monster,
it's just a doggie.
2817
02:14:52,654 --> 02:14:54,319
I've heard from so many people,
2818
02:14:54,344 --> 02:14:56,664
I watched it when I was younger,
2819
02:14:56,689 --> 02:14:57,872
and it was a horror film.
2820
02:14:57,895 --> 02:15:00,216
I watch it now
after I have kids,
2821
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:03,310
it's a whole different film.
2822
02:15:06,654 --> 02:15:09,251
My father was a
severe alcoholic.
2823
02:15:09,274 --> 02:15:14,043
So for most practical
purposes, I had a single mom.
2824
02:15:14,068 --> 02:15:15,975
And she was a strong mom.
2825
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:19,769
And I had a strong grandma
that helped raise me.
2826
02:15:19,792 --> 02:15:23,940
So I had some really
good personal material
2827
02:15:23,965 --> 02:15:25,310
to call on.
2828
02:15:29,895 --> 02:15:32,664
There were nine dogs
that played Cujo.
2829
02:15:32,689 --> 02:15:35,975
Two black labs that
could fit in a dog suit
2830
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:39,619
if we needed it, and a
stuntman in the dog suit.
2831
02:15:41,551 --> 02:15:44,354
The dogs were all
trained to go after toys,
2832
02:15:44,378 --> 02:15:47,975
and we had to tie their
tails down with fish wire,
2833
02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:50,619
because they were
having so much fun.
2834
02:15:52,930 --> 02:15:56,527
Stephen King is the
sweetest, kinda shy,
2835
02:15:56,551 --> 02:15:58,699
very gentle man.
2836
02:15:58,724 --> 02:16:00,457
When he came on
the set of "Cujo",
2837
02:16:00,481 --> 02:16:05,078
I went, where does it come from?
2838
02:16:05,103 --> 02:16:07,000
And he just started laughing.
2839
02:16:08,930 --> 02:16:13,930
After "E.T.", I was
plagued with mother parts.
2840
02:16:15,103 --> 02:16:16,769
It's not that I don't
want to play mothers,
2841
02:16:16,792 --> 02:16:19,802
I just want to play everything.
2842
02:16:19,827 --> 02:16:22,802
Dear god, I probably
have 800 roles
2843
02:16:22,827 --> 02:16:24,113
of every kind of mom.
2844
02:16:24,136 --> 02:16:27,354
Psycho mom, sweet
mom, drugged mom,
2845
02:16:27,378 --> 02:16:30,113
killer mom, hooker mom.
2846
02:16:30,136 --> 02:16:31,171
Everything!
2847
02:16:32,206 --> 02:16:33,011
No!
2848
02:16:33,034 --> 02:16:34,251
No!
2849
02:16:34,274 --> 02:16:38,896
No, no!
2850
02:16:40,274 --> 02:16:42,182
It was almost like poetry
to me, "Shadow Play".
2851
02:16:42,206 --> 02:16:45,724
And I wanted desperately to
work with Cloris Leachman.
2852
02:16:47,067 --> 02:16:52,067
I had to do that very
artsy dream nude scene,
2853
02:16:53,206 --> 02:16:54,765
and my husband was
not happy about that.
2854
02:16:55,965 --> 02:16:58,769
I don't think I've ever
told this story before.
2855
02:16:58,792 --> 02:17:00,206
He called me, and he said
2856
02:17:01,448 --> 02:17:03,424
if you do that scene tomorrow,
2857
02:17:03,448 --> 02:17:05,182
I think we're done.
2858
02:17:05,206 --> 02:17:09,527
I said Chris, don't make
me make that choice.
2859
02:17:09,550 --> 02:17:13,493
We got my therapist on
the phone at three a.m.
2860
02:17:13,516 --> 02:17:15,630
in the morning, and
we worked it out
2861
02:17:15,655 --> 02:17:18,700
that what was
really bothering him
2862
02:17:18,724 --> 02:17:21,906
was that he would have
to wait all those months
2863
02:17:21,931 --> 02:17:23,769
wondering what happened.
2864
02:17:23,792 --> 02:17:27,147
And if the director would
agree to show him the dailies,
2865
02:17:27,172 --> 02:17:28,354
he would be okay.
2866
02:17:28,379 --> 02:17:31,319
Now, this is pretty
funny coming from a guy
2867
02:17:31,343 --> 02:17:35,217
who had a huge naked love
scene in "The Howling",
2868
02:17:35,240 --> 02:17:37,871
and he expected me to
be just fine with it,
2869
02:17:37,896 --> 02:17:39,448
thank you very much.
2870
02:17:40,448 --> 02:17:41,595
But, you know.
2871
02:17:41,620 --> 02:17:45,343
That's a man for you.
2872
02:18:01,655 --> 02:18:02,976
Rubin Galindo Jr.
2873
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:04,182
He's awesome!
2874
02:18:04,206 --> 02:18:06,871
Rubin has an amazing
lineup of movies,
2875
02:18:06,896 --> 02:18:09,137
and he really made
a stamp in the 80s.
2876
02:18:10,309 --> 02:18:14,274
Rubin,
2877
02:18:20,724 --> 02:18:23,595
The difference between
the Mexican horror films,
2878
02:18:23,620 --> 02:18:25,217
and international horror films,
2879
02:18:25,240 --> 02:18:29,286
we like to mix a little
bit of spirituality,
2880
02:18:29,309 --> 02:18:32,388
and to let some
things to the unknown.
2881
02:18:32,413 --> 02:18:35,137
We don't tend to try to explain.
2882
02:18:37,516 --> 02:18:39,871
My dad did Luchador films,
2883
02:18:39,896 --> 02:18:41,251
with monsters films.
2884
02:18:41,274 --> 02:18:43,665
"El Santo Contra Los
Asesinos De Ostros Mundos".
2885
02:18:43,689 --> 02:18:47,240
The saint against killers
from other worlds.
2886
02:18:50,309 --> 02:18:51,931
It's beautiful.
2887
02:18:57,000 --> 02:18:58,458
Michael Jackson's "Thriller".
2888
02:18:58,481 --> 02:19:00,388
That struck me hard,
2889
02:19:00,413 --> 02:19:03,112
and then one day,
my dad told me,
2890
02:19:03,137 --> 02:19:04,871
would you think it's a good idea
2891
02:19:04,896 --> 02:19:07,182
to make a film like Michael
Jackson's "Thriller"?
2892
02:19:07,206 --> 02:19:08,217
I said, yes!
2893
02:19:08,240 --> 02:19:09,424
It's a great idea!
2894
02:19:09,448 --> 02:19:10,585
I wanna do that!
2895
02:19:15,309 --> 02:19:16,561
It's a bunch of teenagers,
2896
02:19:16,585 --> 02:19:18,286
they wanna have
fun in Halloween.
2897
02:19:18,309 --> 02:19:20,976
They go to the morgue,
they steal a corpse,
2898
02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:24,481
and they pretend to
do a demonic ritual.
2899
02:19:26,861 --> 02:19:29,585
They woke up the
demon inside, Devlon,
2900
02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:32,792
who was a killer.
2901
02:19:40,481 --> 02:19:43,837
And all of the sudden,
Michael Jackson's "Thriller".
2902
02:19:43,861 --> 02:19:46,000
Pops out of the tombs.
2903
02:19:48,033 --> 02:19:51,734
I felt very compromised
with the budget.
2904
02:19:51,757 --> 02:19:53,689
I had a hard time.
2905
02:19:56,172 --> 02:19:57,976
The lousiest effect of all
2906
02:19:58,000 --> 02:20:00,630
is when the guy that
was taking a leak,
2907
02:20:00,655 --> 02:20:03,837
Alonso Garcia, finds
the girl lying all dead
2908
02:20:03,861 --> 02:20:05,217
with blood all over her,
2909
02:20:05,240 --> 02:20:08,251
and then there is a flying ax
2910
02:20:08,274 --> 02:20:09,896
that hits him in the face.
2911
02:20:11,067 --> 02:20:14,871
You could see that the
ax had a metal pole.
2912
02:20:14,896 --> 02:20:16,976
I wasn't looking
through the camera,
2913
02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:20,000
because I was playing the ax.
2914
02:20:21,585 --> 02:20:22,802
I think that's the charm.
2915
02:20:22,826 --> 02:20:25,493
It's kind of looking
at a kitsch art,
2916
02:20:25,516 --> 02:20:26,837
when you see a horror film
2917
02:20:26,861 --> 02:20:29,078
that was done with
such a low budget,
2918
02:20:29,102 --> 02:20:31,493
it's looking at like
an Ed Wood film.
2919
02:20:31,516 --> 02:20:33,182
The only guy that
believes in the film
2920
02:20:33,206 --> 02:20:36,343
is the director.
2921
02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:48,424
It's hard to say
what kind of influence
2922
02:20:48,448 --> 02:20:50,286
Stephen King had on movies,
2923
02:20:50,309 --> 02:20:52,906
because of so many
directors attempted
2924
02:20:52,931 --> 02:20:55,871
so many different kinds
of film, it's hard to say.
2925
02:20:55,896 --> 02:20:57,527
It depends on how
well done they are.
2926
02:20:57,550 --> 02:20:59,826
I know Stephen
King loves "Cujo".
2927
02:21:01,931 --> 02:21:05,000
Stephen King's "Cat's Eye".
2928
02:21:06,413 --> 02:21:08,493
Capitalizing on the
popularity of "Creepshow'",
2929
02:21:08,516 --> 02:21:10,354
and Stephen King in general,
2930
02:21:10,379 --> 02:21:11,976
the studios decided
they should make
2931
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:13,941
another horror anthology,
2932
02:21:13,965 --> 02:21:16,769
and that's how we
got "Cat's Eye".
2933
02:21:16,792 --> 02:21:19,354
"Cat's Eye" is by Lewis Teague.
2934
02:21:19,379 --> 02:21:21,665
He'd done "Cujo" at the time.
2935
02:21:21,689 --> 02:21:24,251
It is also co-produced
by Milton Subotsky,
2936
02:21:24,274 --> 02:21:26,550
who was kind of the king
of anthology horror.
2937
02:21:27,965 --> 02:21:29,595
He's the guy who produced
Tales From the Crypt,
2938
02:21:29,620 --> 02:21:32,620
and Dr. Terror's House
of Horrors, and Asylum.
2939
02:21:33,757 --> 02:21:36,217
"Cat's Eye" is three stories,
2940
02:21:36,240 --> 02:21:37,906
two of which are taken
from Stephen King's
2941
02:21:37,931 --> 02:21:40,354
short story book, "Night Shift".
2942
02:21:40,379 --> 02:21:42,286
Watch for the "Cujo" and
"Christine" references
2943
02:21:42,309 --> 02:21:43,309
in the beginning.
2944
02:21:44,585 --> 02:21:46,734
The first segment is called
"Quitters Incorporated",
2945
02:21:46,757 --> 02:21:49,010
and it stars James Woods
as a guy who's trying
2946
02:21:49,033 --> 02:21:51,319
to quit smoking, and the
problem is what they do
2947
02:21:51,343 --> 02:21:55,137
to get you to quit smoking
is incredibly extreme.
2948
02:22:01,033 --> 02:22:03,010
The second segment
is "The Ledge".
2949
02:22:03,033 --> 02:22:04,493
This is about a rich guy played
2950
02:22:04,516 --> 02:22:05,561
by Kenneth McMillan,
2951
02:22:05,585 --> 02:22:07,078
who discovers that Robert Hayes
2952
02:22:07,102 --> 02:22:09,527
has been sleeping with his wife.
2953
02:22:09,550 --> 02:22:10,906
He tells him that if he makes it
2954
02:22:10,931 --> 02:22:13,388
all the way around the
building on this ledge,
2955
02:22:13,413 --> 02:22:15,837
that he can leave
and take his wife.
2956
02:22:15,861 --> 02:22:17,343
Boogie, boogie, boogie!
2957
02:22:19,137 --> 02:22:20,354
You bastard!
2958
02:22:20,379 --> 02:22:22,067
I just wanna keep
you on your toes!
2959
02:22:23,240 --> 02:22:24,458
The third story was more or less
2960
02:22:24,481 --> 02:22:26,319
how the whole thing came about.
2961
02:22:26,343 --> 02:22:29,493
Producer Dino De Laurentiis
contacted Stephen King
2962
02:22:29,516 --> 02:22:31,319
and told him he wanted
him to write a story
2963
02:22:31,343 --> 02:22:33,941
specifically for Drew Barrymore,
2964
02:22:33,965 --> 02:22:36,458
because they had just worked
together on "Firestarter".
2965
02:22:36,481 --> 02:22:38,976
He wrote the script
in less than 24 hours.
2966
02:22:39,000 --> 02:22:42,976
Help me!
2967
02:22:43,000 --> 02:22:45,976
The movie's tied together
with this cat, The General,
2968
02:22:46,000 --> 02:22:48,493
who's on his way to try
to protect Drew Barrymore
2969
02:22:48,516 --> 02:22:50,931
from a troll that's
living in her walls.
2970
02:22:55,826 --> 02:22:57,286
The troll's trying to
kill the little girl
2971
02:22:57,309 --> 02:22:59,655
by stealing her breath
while she sleeps.
2972
02:23:01,620 --> 02:23:03,665
Carlo Rambaldi
created the creature,
2973
02:23:03,689 --> 02:23:05,527
and it is very realistic.
2974
02:23:05,550 --> 02:23:08,769
The troll was a little
person in a suit.
2975
02:23:08,792 --> 02:23:11,630
They're doing puppetry, they're
doing forced perspective.
2976
02:23:11,655 --> 02:23:13,112
It's fantastic.
2977
02:23:13,137 --> 02:23:15,700
The movie actually is in the
Guinness Book of World Records
2978
02:23:15,724 --> 02:23:18,043
for making the
world's largest bed,
2979
02:23:18,067 --> 02:23:20,689
and the world's largest pillows.
2980
02:23:22,033 --> 02:23:23,976
I love how the record
player comes into play
2981
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:25,700
with this segment.
2982
02:23:25,724 --> 02:23:27,309
Watch out!
2983
02:23:30,965 --> 02:23:32,458
Anthologies are
kinda hit or miss,
2984
02:23:32,481 --> 02:23:35,700
but with this, I think all
three segments are strong,
2985
02:23:35,724 --> 02:23:39,000
with the last one, "The
General", being the strongest.
2986
02:23:40,550 --> 02:23:43,286
Anytime you have a movie
where a cat is a hero,
2987
02:23:43,309 --> 02:23:44,689
I am in.
2988
02:23:59,206 --> 02:24:00,941
"Phenomena", from Dario Argento
2989
02:24:00,965 --> 02:24:04,493
is another sort of wildly
weird movie in itself.
2990
02:24:04,516 --> 02:24:05,976
When I first saw it,
I actually saw it
2991
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:07,251
as "The Creepers" version.
2992
02:24:07,274 --> 02:24:09,388
There's actually three
versions of the film.
2993
02:24:09,413 --> 02:24:11,424
"Phenomena" follows
Jennifer Connelly,
2994
02:24:11,448 --> 02:24:13,734
who's a young student
studying abroad,
2995
02:24:13,757 --> 02:24:17,251
who basically has a
psychic connection
2996
02:24:17,274 --> 02:24:18,630
with bugs, of all things,
2997
02:24:18,655 --> 02:24:21,217
and she comes across
Donald Pleasant,
2998
02:24:21,240 --> 02:24:24,458
who's an entomologist
that works with bugs
2999
02:24:24,481 --> 02:24:26,941
in a means to help solve crimes.
3000
02:24:26,965 --> 02:24:29,734
It is just like, is Argento
kind of of woke up one day,
3001
02:24:29,757 --> 02:24:32,424
and was picking
motifs out of a hat,
3002
02:24:32,448 --> 02:24:33,871
and was like,
here's "Phenomena",
3003
02:24:33,896 --> 02:24:35,561
but yet somehow it all works,
3004
02:24:35,585 --> 02:24:37,182
and I think a lot
of credit is due
3005
02:24:37,206 --> 02:24:39,147
to Jennifer Connolly's
performance.
3006
02:24:39,172 --> 02:24:40,010
Don't touch it!
3007
02:24:40,033 --> 02:24:40,941
Stop yelling!
3008
02:24:40,965 --> 02:24:41,802
It's a bee!
3009
02:24:41,826 --> 02:24:42,631
I know.
3010
02:24:42,656 --> 02:24:44,630
It won't hurt me.
3011
02:24:44,655 --> 02:24:46,182
Insects never hurt me.
3012
02:24:46,206 --> 02:24:48,941
Donald Pleasant is
always a welcome addition
3013
02:24:48,965 --> 02:24:50,424
to any cast.
3014
02:24:50,448 --> 02:24:52,585
You're in a position to
do extraordinary things
3015
02:24:53,931 --> 02:24:55,354
with that gift of yours.
3016
02:24:55,379 --> 02:24:57,976
Daria Nicolodi, who had worked
so many times with Argento.
3017
02:24:58,000 --> 02:24:59,319
It's one of the first instances
3018
02:24:59,343 --> 02:25:01,837
I can remember her being
a villain in a movie.
3019
02:25:01,861 --> 02:25:04,067
And she's so great in it.
3020
02:25:08,689 --> 02:25:10,182
Inga is the chimpanzee,
3021
02:25:10,206 --> 02:25:13,354
who is the assistant to
McGreggor in the movie.
3022
02:25:13,379 --> 02:25:15,595
And she is a delight.
3023
02:25:15,620 --> 02:25:16,906
Early on in the
movie, there's a point
3024
02:25:16,931 --> 02:25:18,182
where she's playing
with a scalpel,
3025
02:25:18,206 --> 02:25:19,941
and he's like, Inga.
3026
02:25:19,965 --> 02:25:21,388
I don't want you ever,
3027
02:25:21,413 --> 02:25:24,689
I don't want you ever, ever
playing with this again.
3028
02:25:26,137 --> 02:25:28,217
That moment has a payoff
in the end that I won't ruin.
3029
02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:31,689
But Inga actually becomes your
favorite part of the movie.
3030
02:25:33,379 --> 02:25:34,941
The "Phenomena" soundtrack
is a lot of fun,
3031
02:25:34,965 --> 02:25:38,147
because it marries contemporary
music of that time,
3032
02:25:38,172 --> 02:25:39,871
especially heavy metal music,
3033
02:25:39,896 --> 02:25:43,413
with these traditional
score from Goblin.
3034
02:25:50,343 --> 02:25:52,217
It's really interesting
that it's specifically
3035
02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:56,527
in "Phenomena" that Argenta
would use heavy metal music
3036
02:25:56,550 --> 02:26:01,550
in these weird ways that
shouldn't work, and yet it does.
3037
02:26:02,757 --> 02:26:04,286
♪ The smell of
resigned leather ♪
3038
02:26:04,309 --> 02:26:06,319
♪ The sticky iron mask
3039
02:26:06,343 --> 02:26:07,561
♪ As you cut and thrust
3040
02:26:07,585 --> 02:26:08,802
♪ And parried at the fencing
3041
02:26:08,826 --> 02:26:10,665
Particularly during
the kill scenes.
3042
02:26:10,689 --> 02:26:12,493
It actually heightens
the tensions,
3043
02:26:12,516 --> 02:26:13,976
in those scenes in particular,
3044
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:16,388
and makes them play in
a very different way
3045
02:26:16,413 --> 02:26:17,769
than I think you see
contemporary music
3046
02:26:17,792 --> 02:26:19,516
played in American horror.
3047
02:26:30,240 --> 02:26:31,700
What you love is the feeling
3048
02:26:31,724 --> 02:26:33,931
when you're stomping out life.
3049
02:26:35,137 --> 02:26:37,976
"The Doctor and the Devils".
3050
02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:39,388
"The Doctor and the Devils",
3051
02:26:39,413 --> 02:26:42,665
this is a classic British
gothic horror story.
3052
02:26:42,689 --> 02:26:45,286
Quite lavish, quite
beautiful to look at.
3053
02:26:45,309 --> 02:26:49,458
What now would they be
doing for a living, lovey?
3054
02:26:49,481 --> 02:26:51,043
Grave robbers.
3055
02:26:51,067 --> 02:26:52,769
It's definitely one
that seems to be missed
3056
02:26:52,792 --> 02:26:55,010
off a lot of lists of
best British horror films.
3057
02:26:55,033 --> 02:26:56,354
Before we disturbed his sleep.
3058
02:26:56,379 --> 02:26:58,630
It's crawling with maggots.
3059
02:26:58,655 --> 02:27:00,493
I need fresh subjects.
3060
02:27:00,516 --> 02:27:02,078
Specimens that I can teach with.
3061
02:27:02,102 --> 02:27:04,319
This is, in fact, a decent movie
3062
02:27:04,343 --> 02:27:06,630
with a great cast,
and a good story.
3063
02:27:06,655 --> 02:27:07,965
And I believe that that end
3064
02:27:08,896 --> 02:27:11,000
justifies any means.
3065
02:27:13,620 --> 02:27:17,147
And it stars some amazing
British actors and actresses.
3066
02:27:17,172 --> 02:27:19,182
Dr. Rock needs fresh bodies.
3067
02:27:19,206 --> 02:27:20,217
Could we pay them, sir?
3068
02:27:20,240 --> 02:27:21,665
Only half.
3069
02:27:21,689 --> 02:27:24,769
Julien Sands, Jonathan
Pryce, Stephen Rea and Twiggy.
3070
02:27:24,792 --> 02:27:27,595
It was amazing to see
Timothy Dalton in it.
3071
02:27:27,620 --> 02:27:29,931
We're scientists, not moralists.
3072
02:27:30,792 --> 02:27:32,493
I need bodies.
3073
02:27:32,516 --> 02:27:33,941
They're not called
Burke and Hare,
3074
02:27:33,965 --> 02:27:35,764
but they're kind of
analogs of Burke and Hare.
3075
02:27:36,343 --> 02:27:38,354
Quiet as death tonight.
3076
02:27:38,379 --> 02:27:39,595
Praise be the Lord.
3077
02:27:39,620 --> 02:27:40,871
For those that don't
know, Burke and Hare
3078
02:27:40,896 --> 02:27:43,424
is the story of
two grave robbers
3079
02:27:43,448 --> 02:27:44,769
who used to steal dead bodies.
3080
02:27:44,792 --> 02:27:46,010
And it's a true story.
3081
02:27:46,033 --> 02:27:48,010
Steal dead bodies and
sell them for profit.
3082
02:27:48,033 --> 02:27:49,527
And when the dead
bodies run out,
3083
02:27:49,550 --> 02:27:51,976
they start killing
actual alive people,
3084
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:53,561
and selling them on.
3085
02:27:53,585 --> 02:27:56,000
Quite the benefactors, the dead.
3086
02:27:57,413 --> 02:27:59,906
Their story kind of spins
out on the head a little bit.
3087
02:27:59,931 --> 02:28:02,251
Put them out of their
misery, Mr. Fallon!
3088
02:28:02,274 --> 02:28:03,769
That's what the
major said to me.
3089
02:28:03,792 --> 02:28:05,837
Pryce, quite unhinged in
the characters he does play,
3090
02:28:05,861 --> 02:28:07,871
and he looks evil, as well.
3091
02:28:07,896 --> 02:28:08,896
Fresh, Broom.
3092
02:28:09,724 --> 02:28:11,033
Fresh as new moon here.
3093
02:28:12,379 --> 02:28:14,458
This film was directed
by Freddie Francis,
3094
02:28:14,481 --> 02:28:16,493
who you may know made his start
3095
02:28:16,516 --> 02:28:18,354
with Amicus and Hammer,
3096
02:28:18,379 --> 02:28:20,976
doing some great
gothic horror for them.
3097
02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:22,734
And this is kind of a
continuation of that.
3098
02:28:22,757 --> 02:28:24,700
And you can see a lot
of the things he learned
3099
02:28:24,724 --> 02:28:26,112
with Amicus and Hammer,
3100
02:28:26,137 --> 02:28:29,665
the kind of level of detail
in the period pieces,
3101
02:28:29,689 --> 02:28:31,941
in the architecture,
in the costumes.
3102
02:28:31,965 --> 02:28:33,388
And that kind of gothic horror,
3103
02:28:33,413 --> 02:28:36,286
where you don't necessarily
need to see the killing.
3104
02:28:36,309 --> 02:28:39,354
Fresh bodies, fresh
bodies, fresh bodies.
3105
02:28:39,379 --> 02:28:41,217
You may just see a
shadow on the wall,
3106
02:28:41,240 --> 02:28:43,458
or the aftermath, just
that beautiful girl's
3107
02:28:43,481 --> 02:28:44,481
blood on her mouth.
3108
02:28:46,274 --> 02:28:48,182
The ultimate message in
"The Doctor and the Devils"
3109
02:28:48,206 --> 02:28:50,458
is if you want something
done, do it yourself.
3110
02:28:50,481 --> 02:28:51,941
But it's really well-done,
3111
02:28:51,965 --> 02:28:54,043
and I was actually surprised
how well this holds up.
3112
02:28:54,067 --> 02:28:56,561
This city has a
heart of goodness.
3113
02:28:56,585 --> 02:28:59,033
And the bowels of squalor.
3114
02:29:04,620 --> 02:29:05,769
For a good time, call-
3115
02:29:05,792 --> 02:29:08,550
"Transylvania 6-5000".
3116
02:29:09,585 --> 02:29:11,354
Is good, huh?
3117
02:29:11,379 --> 02:29:14,769
"Transylvania 6-5000" is
an incredibly underrated
3118
02:29:14,792 --> 02:29:17,976
horror comedy, or should
I say comedy horror,
3119
02:29:18,000 --> 02:29:19,388
from the 80s.
3120
02:29:19,413 --> 02:29:22,286
It's got a lot of
really fun moments.
3121
02:29:22,309 --> 02:29:24,354
And the whole movie
just has this uplifting
3122
02:29:24,379 --> 02:29:26,493
jovial feeling to it.
3123
02:29:26,516 --> 02:29:27,700
Ah, Radu.
3124
02:29:27,724 --> 02:29:29,112
Yes, master?
3125
02:29:29,137 --> 02:29:30,458
Everybody involved
looks like they're having
3126
02:29:30,481 --> 02:29:31,871
an absolute blast.
3127
02:29:31,896 --> 02:29:35,010
You've got Ed Begley
Jr., Jeff Goldblum.
3128
02:29:35,033 --> 02:29:36,217
Every time I give you-
3129
02:29:36,240 --> 02:29:37,769
Two reporters
from a rag newspaper
3130
02:29:37,792 --> 02:29:40,630
are headed to Transylvania
to try to find Frankenstein.
3131
02:29:40,655 --> 02:29:43,700
So I'm counting on you guys
for a Frankenstein story.
3132
02:29:43,724 --> 02:29:45,802
I'm sorry, you're counting
on us for a what story?
3133
02:29:45,826 --> 02:29:47,837
My favorite part is
when they first arrive
3134
02:29:47,861 --> 02:29:51,527
in Transylvania, and they
ask a point blank question,
3135
02:29:51,550 --> 02:29:53,976
hey, where can we
find Frankenstein.
3136
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:56,379
Frankenstein, you know
Frankenstein don't you?
3137
02:29:57,309 --> 02:29:58,079
Frankenstein?
3138
02:29:58,103 --> 02:29:59,112
Yes, the monster.
3139
02:29:59,137 --> 02:30:00,388
Ah.
3140
02:30:00,413 --> 02:30:01,734
Instead of just
laughing them off,
3141
02:30:01,757 --> 02:30:04,906
they drag it off
and humiliate them.
3142
02:30:04,931 --> 02:30:06,388
And then they get the
mayor to come out,
3143
02:30:06,413 --> 02:30:08,286
played by Jeffrey Jones,
3144
02:30:08,309 --> 02:30:10,527
and with the straightest
face possible,
3145
02:30:10,550 --> 02:30:14,724
says gentlemen, we're
in Transylvania.
3146
02:30:15,931 --> 02:30:18,274
Don't you want to
ask us about Dracula?
3147
02:30:19,757 --> 02:30:21,861
And then just
bursts out laughing.
3148
02:30:23,067 --> 02:30:23,977
I've got Godzilla
in the back room.
3149
02:30:24,001 --> 02:30:25,837
I like it, it's a good one.
3150
02:30:25,861 --> 02:30:27,172
How about the Blob?
3151
02:30:28,379 --> 02:30:29,734
It wouldn't be much
of a monster movie
3152
02:30:29,757 --> 02:30:32,665
without the monsters
actually showing up.
3153
02:30:32,689 --> 02:30:35,424
You got the mummy, a
Frankenstein monster,
3154
02:30:35,448 --> 02:30:38,147
a werewolf who looks
like Chewbacca.
3155
02:30:38,172 --> 02:30:39,837
Geena Davis as a vampire.
3156
02:30:39,861 --> 02:30:41,734
And then there's Kramer,
Michael Richards,
3157
02:30:41,757 --> 02:30:43,861
playing an Igor type.
3158
02:30:45,655 --> 02:30:46,734
Is good, huh?
3159
02:30:46,757 --> 02:30:47,871
Is funny!
3160
02:30:47,896 --> 02:30:49,493
Wearing funny goggles,
3161
02:30:49,516 --> 02:30:52,182
riding a mechanical
animal in a closet,
3162
02:30:52,206 --> 02:30:54,000
and slipping on banana peels.
3163
02:30:55,102 --> 02:30:57,319
Look, it's a
beautiful day today!
3164
02:30:57,343 --> 02:30:58,217
Whoa!
3165
02:30:58,240 --> 02:30:58,977
- Hey, hey!
- Oh!
3166
02:30:59,001 --> 02:31:00,527
Are you okay?
3167
02:31:00,550 --> 02:31:01,802
This one would make for
a wonderful double feature
3168
02:31:01,826 --> 02:31:03,388
with "Saturday the 14th".
3169
02:31:03,413 --> 02:31:06,067
They both have the same
kind of sophomoric humor.
3170
02:31:09,724 --> 02:31:11,448
And fun creature effects.
3171
02:31:28,896 --> 02:31:30,976
"Guinea Pig:
Devil's Experiment".
3172
02:31:31,000 --> 02:31:32,493
This is a found footage movie
3173
02:31:32,516 --> 02:31:34,286
in the faux documentary style.
3174
02:31:34,309 --> 02:31:37,078
It has title cards,
has an end card,
3175
02:31:37,102 --> 02:31:39,655
it's separated
into acts, almost.
3176
02:31:41,448 --> 02:31:44,217
It is about three guys
abusing this woman
3177
02:31:44,240 --> 02:31:47,724
in sequentially horrible ways.
3178
02:31:49,931 --> 02:31:52,630
And is absolutely gruesome.
3179
02:31:52,655 --> 02:31:54,769
And really effective,
because it's done in a way
3180
02:31:54,792 --> 02:31:57,734
where it does feel
the closest you'll see
3181
02:31:57,757 --> 02:31:59,458
to seeing a snuff movie.
3182
02:31:59,481 --> 02:32:01,976
It was made by Satoru Ogura,
3183
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:03,976
who wrote and
directed it in 1985.
3184
02:32:04,000 --> 02:32:05,561
And the effects are inventive,
3185
02:32:05,585 --> 02:32:07,112
but it's not something
you can just sit down
3186
02:32:07,137 --> 02:32:08,871
with a packet of
crisps and eat it,
3187
02:32:08,896 --> 02:32:10,871
because you'll be
so grossed out.
3188
02:32:10,896 --> 02:32:12,458
It's a really interesting movie
3189
02:32:12,481 --> 02:32:15,286
that I wouldn't recommend
to too many people,
3190
02:32:15,309 --> 02:32:18,769
but I will say, the
sequels get more and more
3191
02:32:18,792 --> 02:32:20,319
and more interesting.
3192
02:32:20,343 --> 02:32:22,976
I am absolutely obsessed
3193
02:32:23,000 --> 02:32:25,493
by "Guinea Pig 5:
Mermaid in a Manhole".
3194
02:32:25,516 --> 02:32:27,837
That movie manages to
keep the grossness,
3195
02:32:27,861 --> 02:32:31,078
but add a really
heartfelt story in it.
3196
02:32:31,102 --> 02:32:33,871
In the first one, there was
absolutely no redemption
3197
02:32:33,896 --> 02:32:35,217
for these characters.
3198
02:32:35,240 --> 02:32:37,976
But in the later ones,
they give the characters
3199
02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:40,424
a little bit more
layers to them.
3200
02:32:40,448 --> 02:32:42,527
But they're still
doing the wrong things.
3201
02:32:42,550 --> 02:32:43,976
Women still end up dying,
3202
02:32:44,000 --> 02:32:46,251
people still end
up being tortured,
3203
02:32:46,274 --> 02:32:48,458
and even in my favorite
moment in "The Manhole",
3204
02:32:48,481 --> 02:32:49,941
he thinks he's doing
the right thing
3205
02:32:49,965 --> 02:32:52,112
by saving this
mermaid in the sewer,
3206
02:32:52,137 --> 02:32:54,769
but he is effectively
taken her out of her home,
3207
02:32:54,792 --> 02:32:57,102
and is slowly killing
her for the sake of art.
3208
02:32:58,516 --> 02:33:01,112
These "Guinea Pig" movies
are kind of notorious
3209
02:33:01,137 --> 02:33:03,527
as being the precursors
to torture porn.
3210
02:33:03,550 --> 02:33:05,689
Things like "Hostel",
things like that.
3211
02:33:10,724 --> 02:33:11,906
And I don't really
see that type of movie
3212
02:33:11,931 --> 02:33:14,595
coming back again,
because I think it was
3213
02:33:14,620 --> 02:33:18,217
really surrounding VHS,
and the ability to share
3214
02:33:18,240 --> 02:33:19,595
horrific images with people,
3215
02:33:19,620 --> 02:33:21,078
which you can do at
the touch of a button
3216
02:33:21,102 --> 02:33:22,527
with the internet now,
3217
02:33:22,550 --> 02:33:24,458
but back then, the feeling
of having something
3218
02:33:24,481 --> 02:33:27,251
that you shouldn't
have, a snuff movie,
3219
02:33:27,274 --> 02:33:29,769
and passing that around,
is really the reason
3220
02:33:29,792 --> 02:33:31,941
why there's so many
"Guinea Pig" movies,
3221
02:33:31,965 --> 02:33:34,286
and that's why also the
"Faces of Death" movies
3222
02:33:34,309 --> 02:33:36,757
in the western world
were so popular.
3223
02:33:50,033 --> 02:33:51,976
Spielberg once said to me
3224
02:33:52,000 --> 02:33:55,802
I would love to make a
really vicious horror movie.
3225
02:33:55,826 --> 02:33:59,354
You wouldn't believe some
of the dark ideas I have
3226
02:33:59,379 --> 02:34:02,595
that would probably
challenge Cronenberg
3227
02:34:02,620 --> 02:34:07,043
as far as going the
distance in shocking stuff.
3228
02:34:07,067 --> 02:34:09,700
But I can't do that
because of who I am.
3229
02:34:09,724 --> 02:34:11,976
That was when he was best known
3230
02:34:12,000 --> 02:34:13,527
for "E.T." and "Poltergeist",
3231
02:34:13,550 --> 02:34:15,561
and more family friendly stuff.
3232
02:34:15,585 --> 02:34:17,976
He felt that that
put him in a box
3233
02:34:18,000 --> 02:34:20,896
that didn't allow him to
go to the other distance.
3234
02:34:22,550 --> 02:34:25,078
The most impactful horror films
3235
02:34:25,102 --> 02:34:27,561
will always come from some guy
3236
02:34:27,585 --> 02:34:30,182
in the middle of nowhere
with a bunch of friends
3237
02:34:30,206 --> 02:34:32,976
who've made a movie,
and it's really cool,
3238
02:34:33,000 --> 02:34:35,000
and is a huge success.
3239
02:34:37,792 --> 02:34:41,251
As soon as you have
a committee involved
3240
02:34:41,274 --> 02:34:43,837
in making a horror
film, it never works.
3241
02:34:43,861 --> 02:34:45,286
It's not a committee.
3242
02:34:45,309 --> 02:34:47,448
It's a singular vision.
3243
02:34:49,000 --> 02:34:51,010
Too many bones.
3244
02:34:51,033 --> 02:34:53,976
When you have one person
with one clear vision,
3245
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:55,561
that comes through
in the final product.
3246
02:34:55,585 --> 02:34:57,665
So it's an important thing
that there is a director
3247
02:34:57,689 --> 02:35:00,251
that sees it through
from start to finish.
3248
02:35:00,274 --> 02:35:02,182
The lower the budget,
the more creative
3249
02:35:02,206 --> 02:35:04,826
a filmmaker can get to
realize their vision.
3250
02:35:06,240 --> 02:35:08,906
You just have to keep
everything in perspective.
3251
02:35:08,931 --> 02:35:10,010
We're making movies.
3252
02:35:10,033 --> 02:35:11,527
We're doing what we love.
3253
02:35:11,550 --> 02:35:14,274
I said I think my
ears are gonna explode.
3254
02:35:17,655 --> 02:35:19,458
I think that's really
an important part
3255
02:35:19,481 --> 02:35:20,389
of being a filmmaker.
3256
02:35:20,414 --> 02:35:21,976
I wanted to affect something.
3257
02:35:22,000 --> 02:35:24,665
And that at the
tenacity of the finish.
3258
02:35:24,689 --> 02:35:25,871
That's the whole thing.
3259
02:35:25,896 --> 02:35:28,354
Most people quit when
things get rough.
3260
02:35:28,379 --> 02:35:30,700
And they always get rough.
3261
02:35:30,724 --> 02:35:34,043
Really the best directors
I've ever worked with,
3262
02:35:34,067 --> 02:35:36,424
they hire the right people.
3263
02:35:36,448 --> 02:35:38,965
And they trust their talent.
3264
02:35:40,274 --> 02:35:43,493
When I think about the
three great directors
3265
02:35:43,516 --> 02:35:46,217
that I've worked with,
the ones that come to mind
3266
02:35:46,240 --> 02:35:49,458
are John Carpenter, George
Romero, and Wes Craven.
3267
02:35:49,481 --> 02:35:51,147
They have a bunch
of things in common.
3268
02:35:51,172 --> 02:35:53,665
They all knew exactly
what they wanted.
3269
02:35:53,689 --> 02:35:56,976
And all three of them
kept a very calm,
3270
02:35:57,000 --> 02:36:01,802
very supportive set,
a very happy set.
3271
02:36:01,826 --> 02:36:04,388
Playing mind games,
that's not the way
3272
02:36:04,413 --> 02:36:06,424
those three men directed.
3273
02:36:06,448 --> 02:36:07,355
Cut.
3274
02:36:07,379 --> 02:36:08,561
Prints, thank you.
3275
02:36:08,585 --> 02:36:10,078
I would argue
that John Carpenter
3276
02:36:10,102 --> 02:36:11,630
was probably the most underrated
3277
02:36:11,655 --> 02:36:14,516
great American filmmaker ever.
3278
02:36:18,102 --> 02:36:20,286
And he's not probably
largely viewed that way
3279
02:36:20,309 --> 02:36:22,147
by people who should
view him that way.
3280
02:36:22,172 --> 02:36:23,769
He's certainly very
revered by most people
3281
02:36:23,792 --> 02:36:25,388
who like horror,
but he's much more
3282
02:36:25,413 --> 02:36:27,217
than a horror filmmaker.
3283
02:36:27,240 --> 02:36:29,043
Cronenberg, because
he was headier,
3284
02:36:29,067 --> 02:36:31,354
I think got more due,
and more acceptance
3285
02:36:31,379 --> 02:36:33,413
by the snobbier film community.
3286
02:36:35,413 --> 02:36:39,010
The relationship between
humanity and physicality
3287
02:36:39,033 --> 02:36:41,319
is something that
Cronenberg explores a lot,
3288
02:36:41,343 --> 02:36:44,976
whether it's "eXitenZ",
or "Rabid", or "Shivers".
3289
02:36:45,000 --> 02:36:46,182
"The Fly".
3290
02:36:46,206 --> 02:36:49,458
He regurgitates on
his food, it liquefies,
3291
02:36:49,481 --> 02:36:50,976
and then he sucks it back up.
3292
02:36:51,000 --> 02:36:53,000
It's a theme that he
would come back to a lot
3293
02:36:54,724 --> 02:36:55,965
Oh my god.
3294
02:36:58,067 --> 02:37:01,043
John Carpenter's biggest
influence on 1980s horror
3295
02:37:01,067 --> 02:37:03,802
was "Halloween" from 1978.
3296
02:37:03,826 --> 02:37:07,010
That really kicked
off the slasher boom.
3297
02:37:07,033 --> 02:37:10,000
And paved the way for
so many copycats after.
3298
02:37:15,102 --> 02:37:18,493
His legacy is that the
genre was taken seriously,
3299
02:37:18,516 --> 02:37:20,286
and he wanted to
give the audience,
3300
02:37:20,309 --> 02:37:23,043
not just a thrill, but
just show how movie making
3301
02:37:23,067 --> 02:37:24,274
can be an experience.
3302
02:37:25,757 --> 02:37:28,147
♪ Just the two of us
3303
02:37:28,172 --> 02:37:30,665
I didn't watch as
many horror films
3304
02:37:30,689 --> 02:37:32,837
as I should have during the 80s
3305
02:37:32,861 --> 02:37:34,319
because I was so busy.
3306
02:37:34,343 --> 02:37:38,112
But I remember a lot of the
movies I saw in the 70s,
3307
02:37:38,137 --> 02:37:41,700
"The Texas Chainsaw
Massacre" being a big one.
3308
02:37:41,724 --> 02:37:42,861
I loved that movie.
3309
02:37:44,413 --> 02:37:46,319
Tobe was a close friend.
3310
02:37:46,343 --> 02:37:48,595
Really upset by the
passing of Tobe.
3311
02:37:48,620 --> 02:37:50,769
A very sweet man.
3312
02:37:50,792 --> 02:37:53,319
Really wonderful guy.
3313
02:37:53,343 --> 02:37:56,837
He made the cinematic
experience for moviegoers
3314
02:37:56,861 --> 02:38:00,448
a lot more brutal I think
than they were used to.
3315
02:38:04,000 --> 02:38:06,319
The two greatest movies
that Tobe Hooper made,
3316
02:38:06,343 --> 02:38:08,665
"The Texas Chainsaw
Massacre", and "Poltergeist",
3317
02:38:08,689 --> 02:38:10,976
were both used against
him to say well,
3318
02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:13,871
he didn't direct one, and
the other one is crap.
3319
02:38:13,896 --> 02:38:16,388
And so he struggled
his whole life
3320
02:38:16,413 --> 02:38:19,343
to become more
accepted as a director.
3321
02:38:22,206 --> 02:38:25,286
I feel like every
movie Wes Craven makes
3322
02:38:25,309 --> 02:38:28,734
was like a statement
piece, was groundbreaking,
3323
02:38:28,757 --> 02:38:30,251
wasn't like oh,
here's a horror movie.
3324
02:38:30,274 --> 02:38:33,010
It was like, this
has changed the face
3325
02:38:33,033 --> 02:38:34,585
of what we're watching today.
3326
02:38:38,550 --> 02:38:40,734
He was making films
and having a blast.
3327
02:38:40,757 --> 02:38:45,251
He was very kind of, in the
New York intellectual scene.
3328
02:38:45,274 --> 02:38:47,871
Night and day different,
3329
02:38:47,896 --> 02:38:50,792
were Wes Craven's
movies and who he was.
3330
02:38:52,689 --> 02:38:54,734
George Romero,
for someone who made
3331
02:38:54,757 --> 02:38:59,424
such really creepy,
disturbing films,
3332
02:38:59,448 --> 02:39:01,251
he was such a bear.
3333
02:39:01,274 --> 02:39:05,516
Just a cuddly, sweet,
delightful presence.
3334
02:39:08,000 --> 02:39:09,527
My god.
3335
02:39:09,550 --> 02:39:12,837
George was a master, and he
was always ahead of his time.
3336
02:39:12,861 --> 02:39:15,424
That's what was so remarkable
about George's films.
3337
02:39:15,448 --> 02:39:18,550
They get better and
better with age.
3338
02:39:25,240 --> 02:39:28,976
Dario Argento, he was
consistently impressive
3339
02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:31,965
as a filmmaker, right up to
and including "Two Evil Eyes".
3340
02:39:34,826 --> 02:39:36,700
What's special about Dario
3341
02:39:36,724 --> 02:39:40,078
is his operatic
style of filmmaking.
3342
02:39:40,102 --> 02:39:42,137
He revels in murder.
3343
02:39:44,413 --> 02:39:47,388
He has a fetish for creating
3344
02:39:47,413 --> 02:39:50,309
these amazing murder set pieces.
3345
02:39:58,516 --> 02:40:00,527
Steward Gordon
was a provocateur.
3346
02:40:00,550 --> 02:40:04,620
He liked to make movies that
really provoked a reaction.
3347
02:40:07,448 --> 02:40:10,595
Stewart was the
king of the party.
3348
02:40:10,620 --> 02:40:15,620
He made sure that everything
was big and bold and body.
3349
02:40:19,516 --> 02:40:21,010
He has a different personality
3350
02:40:21,033 --> 02:40:22,595
with pretty much
every movie he does.
3351
02:40:22,620 --> 02:40:24,354
"Dagon" has a
different personality.
3352
02:40:24,379 --> 02:40:26,458
"Dolls" has a
different personality.
3353
02:40:26,481 --> 02:40:28,286
"Stuck" has a
different personality.
3354
02:40:28,309 --> 02:40:31,240
"Castle Freak", everything's
a little different.
3355
02:40:37,481 --> 02:40:39,906
Kathryn Bigelow,
in my estimation,
3356
02:40:39,931 --> 02:40:42,700
Mary Lambert, they broke
the mold a little bit.
3357
02:40:42,724 --> 02:40:44,388
They were very bold.
3358
02:40:44,413 --> 02:40:46,182
I think they knew they
were gonna be able
3359
02:40:46,206 --> 02:40:48,941
to find advocacy within
the studio system.
3360
02:40:48,965 --> 02:40:50,769
I think they had
that confidence.
3361
02:40:50,792 --> 02:40:54,206
And that confidence radiates
from those products.
3362
02:40:55,448 --> 02:40:59,078
Fasten your fucking seatbelt!
3363
02:40:59,102 --> 02:41:03,424
It was very, very
difficult for women directors
3364
02:41:03,448 --> 02:41:05,976
to either put together
a film themselves,
3365
02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:09,319
or to get a job
directing any film.
3366
02:41:09,343 --> 02:41:12,251
Well come on, baby!
3367
02:41:12,274 --> 02:41:13,700
Light my fire.
3368
02:41:13,724 --> 02:41:16,147
Now it's opened a lot more.
3369
02:41:16,172 --> 02:41:18,286
But we have a lot to
ground to make up.
3370
02:41:18,309 --> 02:41:19,906
It was bad.
3371
02:41:19,931 --> 02:41:22,010
We're not as far
along as we should be.
3372
02:41:22,033 --> 02:41:23,182
Let's just put it that way.
3373
02:41:23,206 --> 02:41:25,182
We have to get to a point
3374
02:41:25,206 --> 02:41:27,251
where women are not labeled
3375
02:41:27,274 --> 02:41:31,319
as female filmmaker, or like me,
3376
02:41:31,343 --> 02:41:34,112
Mexican-Canadian,
blah-blah-blah, filmmaker.
3377
02:41:34,137 --> 02:41:35,354
Like, you can have
all the labels.
3378
02:41:35,379 --> 02:41:37,665
My last name's
already long enough.
3379
02:41:37,689 --> 02:41:41,147
I just want us to be
recognized as a good filmmaker,
3380
02:41:41,172 --> 02:41:44,976
and it's taken all this
time to finally get here.
3381
02:41:45,000 --> 02:41:48,665
But it's our responsibility
as storytellers
3382
02:41:48,689 --> 02:41:51,976
to challenge audiences,
and to challenge studios
3383
02:41:52,000 --> 02:41:52,804
to accept that.
3384
02:41:52,827 --> 02:41:55,448
Welcome to our house!
3385
02:41:57,172 --> 02:41:58,620
Puta!
3386
02:41:59,550 --> 02:42:00,769
We'll keep working hard.
3387
02:42:00,792 --> 02:42:02,527
And we'll keep
challenging everybody
3388
02:42:02,550 --> 02:42:05,689
that watches our
movies to accept it.
3389
02:42:19,033 --> 02:42:20,871
The Puttermans
finally got themselves
3390
02:42:20,896 --> 02:42:24,655
a pet, but they never even had
a chance to give it a name.
3391
02:42:25,931 --> 02:42:27,112
"TerrorVision".
3392
02:42:27,137 --> 02:42:28,458
"TerrorVision" was one
of the movies we made
3393
02:42:28,481 --> 02:42:30,527
during those amazing
three years or so
3394
02:42:30,550 --> 02:42:33,217
at Empire Studios
in Rome, Italy.
3395
02:42:33,240 --> 02:42:35,802
That's when that, you know
you conceive something,
3396
02:42:35,826 --> 02:42:37,424
you have a great poster,
3397
02:42:37,448 --> 02:42:40,172
and then it morphs into
something entirely different.
3398
02:42:47,861 --> 02:42:49,078
It was originally gonna be
a straight up horror movie
3399
02:42:49,102 --> 02:42:50,906
that this monster
comes out of the TV
3400
02:42:50,931 --> 02:42:52,965
and eats the family.
3401
02:42:54,206 --> 02:42:57,550
But Ted had this kind of
strange dark humor, and-
3402
02:43:01,757 --> 02:43:02,665
Whoa!
3403
02:43:02,690 --> 02:43:03,906
I just kind of pondered
3404
02:43:03,931 --> 02:43:06,906
how to make a monster coming out
3405
02:43:06,931 --> 02:43:10,906
of a satellite dish, have some
kind of social commentary.
3406
02:43:10,931 --> 02:43:13,043
You must heed my warning!
3407
02:43:13,067 --> 02:43:15,561
Its appetite is insatiable!
3408
02:43:15,585 --> 02:43:17,941
Its curiosity is boundless!
3409
02:43:17,965 --> 02:43:21,424
I had to capture
this moment of the 80s
3410
02:43:21,448 --> 02:43:25,896
about the overwhelming
garbage of television.
3411
02:43:26,724 --> 02:43:29,458
Channel 69, Pops.
3412
02:43:29,481 --> 02:43:30,976
Stanley!
3413
02:43:31,000 --> 02:43:34,906
Man, it exploded into this
technicolor kind of wildness.
3414
02:43:34,931 --> 02:43:36,388
Look out!
3415
02:43:36,413 --> 02:43:38,906
To the film's credit,
or maybe its detriment,
3416
02:43:38,931 --> 02:43:41,493
I don't know, I made
these characters
3417
02:43:41,516 --> 02:43:43,700
that are sort of
really reprehensible.
3418
02:43:43,724 --> 02:43:45,274
My parents wanna meet you.
3419
02:43:46,516 --> 02:43:47,320
Oh, whoa.
3420
02:43:47,344 --> 02:43:49,010
What a drag.
3421
02:43:49,033 --> 02:43:51,906
I wanted our monster in
"TerrorVision", Hungry Beast,
3422
02:43:51,931 --> 02:43:54,620
to be a sympathetic character.
3423
02:43:56,757 --> 02:43:59,837
Well, he's just a pet
who really couldn't help
3424
02:43:59,861 --> 02:44:01,172
that he was hungry.
3425
02:44:02,861 --> 02:44:05,010
John Buechler and his crew
3426
02:44:05,033 --> 02:44:09,527
were kind of like the Charlie
go-to makeup effects people.
3427
02:44:09,550 --> 02:44:13,078
John just looked at me like
I was completely insane.
3428
02:44:13,102 --> 02:44:16,319
Once we found the basic design,
3429
02:44:16,343 --> 02:44:17,941
John threw himself into it
3430
02:44:17,965 --> 02:44:20,388
and created this character
that is just like
3431
02:44:20,413 --> 02:44:23,217
the most doofus-y
looking monster
3432
02:44:23,240 --> 02:44:24,941
that you could imagine.
3433
02:44:24,965 --> 02:44:26,078
No!
3434
02:44:26,102 --> 02:44:28,665
It was big and
heavy and hot inside,
3435
02:44:28,689 --> 02:44:31,182
and required five
or six puppeteers
3436
02:44:31,206 --> 02:44:33,354
just to make him work,
3437
02:44:33,379 --> 02:44:35,734
and shipping him over to Italy
3438
02:44:35,757 --> 02:44:39,240
must have been just
ridiculously expensive.
3439
02:44:41,137 --> 02:44:43,802
♪ TerrorVision
3440
02:44:43,826 --> 02:44:45,941
That main title theme
is just so perfect.
3441
02:44:45,965 --> 02:44:48,112
Sets the time
period of the movie,
3442
02:44:48,137 --> 02:44:50,078
sets the tone of the movie.
3443
02:44:50,102 --> 02:44:53,424
We talked to Frank Zappa
about doing the score.
3444
02:44:53,448 --> 02:44:55,527
Then I talked to The Cramps.
3445
02:44:55,550 --> 02:45:00,112
But The Fibonaccis, the
quirky quality of their music
3446
02:45:00,137 --> 02:45:03,172
was perfect for the
main title song.
3447
02:45:04,585 --> 02:45:06,802
♪ TerrorVision
3448
02:45:06,826 --> 02:45:09,251
My favorite sequence
of "TerrorVision"
3449
02:45:09,274 --> 02:45:13,010
is the creature is
sitting in the big hot tub
3450
02:45:13,033 --> 02:45:16,527
watching "Earth Versus
Flying Saucers" on TV,
3451
02:45:16,550 --> 02:45:19,561
and laughing uproariously
as flying saucers
3452
02:45:19,585 --> 02:45:21,896
smash into the monuments.
3453
02:45:25,931 --> 02:45:29,309
The kids come in
and try to kill it.
3454
02:45:32,861 --> 02:45:34,630
That little sequence
there, to me,
3455
02:45:34,655 --> 02:45:38,137
kind of captures the
chaos and the humor.
3456
02:45:41,274 --> 02:45:42,112
Sis!
3457
02:45:42,137 --> 02:45:43,137
Sis!
3458
02:45:45,000 --> 02:45:47,217
I was so pleased
that it came out
3459
02:45:47,240 --> 02:45:48,424
as well as it did.
3460
02:45:48,448 --> 02:45:50,112
And then when it went
into the theaters
3461
02:45:50,137 --> 02:45:51,837
for its one week run,
3462
02:45:51,861 --> 02:45:53,906
it was a fucking disaster.
3463
02:45:53,931 --> 02:45:55,217
Nobody came.
3464
02:45:55,240 --> 02:45:57,147
The reviews just hated it.
3465
02:45:57,172 --> 02:45:59,630
Man, this is the
dumbest movie I ever saw!
3466
02:45:59,655 --> 02:46:01,078
What a bunch of crud.
3467
02:46:01,102 --> 02:46:04,043
But over the years, it's
been really satisfying
3468
02:46:04,067 --> 02:46:06,182
to see how it became
kind of like a
3469
02:46:06,206 --> 02:46:08,043
let's get stoned
and watch this film,
3470
02:46:08,067 --> 02:46:11,837
and that's like kind of
what it was intended to be.
3471
02:46:11,861 --> 02:46:14,837
I'm really happy that it's
reached as many people
3472
02:46:14,861 --> 02:46:16,000
as it has.
3473
02:46:28,724 --> 02:46:30,665
In "Rats: Notte di
Terrore", which is
3474
02:46:30,689 --> 02:46:33,941
"Rats: Night of Terror",
ragtag band of survivors
3475
02:46:33,965 --> 02:46:37,493
after the last apocalypse are
searching for food and water
3476
02:46:37,516 --> 02:46:39,112
in a no man's land.
3477
02:46:39,137 --> 02:46:40,906
They would find
evolution has taken
3478
02:46:40,931 --> 02:46:42,655
a pretty nasty turn.
3479
02:46:48,379 --> 02:46:49,802
This is a really
low budget movie,
3480
02:46:49,826 --> 02:46:52,837
and it's the first
movie where I'm a lead.
3481
02:46:52,861 --> 02:46:54,458
It was only a gag.
3482
02:46:54,481 --> 02:46:55,941
Listen up.
3483
02:46:55,965 --> 02:46:57,734
Gags we don't need.
3484
02:46:57,757 --> 02:46:59,976
Any more and I'll blow
your fucking brains out.
3485
02:47:00,000 --> 02:47:01,217
Get it?
3486
02:47:01,240 --> 02:47:04,078
They actually had cast
my roommate at the time
3487
02:47:04,102 --> 02:47:05,354
to play my role.
3488
02:47:05,379 --> 02:47:07,561
Completely different
type, American girl.
3489
02:47:07,585 --> 02:47:08,941
She's got red hair.
3490
02:47:08,965 --> 02:47:10,424
Completely different girl.
3491
02:47:10,448 --> 02:47:12,826
The budget was so low, she
goes I'm not doing that.
3492
02:47:14,000 --> 02:47:15,896
Somehow I guess
they heard I would.
3493
02:47:22,033 --> 02:47:23,424
Oh my god!
3494
02:47:23,448 --> 02:47:24,458
I won't even tell you
3495
02:47:24,481 --> 02:47:25,493
what I got paid per week.
3496
02:47:25,516 --> 02:47:26,595
That's how low it was.
3497
02:47:26,620 --> 02:47:28,067
They were paying you by week.
3498
02:47:29,000 --> 02:47:31,010
Not Diana, no!
3499
02:47:31,033 --> 02:47:32,319
The script was in Italian.
3500
02:47:32,343 --> 02:47:34,182
But I did my role in English.
3501
02:47:34,206 --> 02:47:36,941
And then that movie,
everyone with the exception
3502
02:47:36,965 --> 02:47:38,769
of maybe two people,
could speak English.
3503
02:47:38,792 --> 02:47:41,458
And then everyone else
would be dubbed around it.
3504
02:47:41,481 --> 02:47:43,561
You made a bet with me
and you lost, Chocolate.
3505
02:47:43,585 --> 02:47:45,010
You know it.
3506
02:47:45,033 --> 02:47:46,561
Put it on my bill.
3507
02:47:46,585 --> 02:47:47,976
Tonight I don't feel like it.
3508
02:47:48,000 --> 02:47:50,700
Now here's a fun
thing about the set.
3509
02:47:50,724 --> 02:47:52,630
It's actually Sergio Leone's
3510
02:47:52,655 --> 02:47:55,286
old America from "One
Upon a Time in America".
3511
02:47:55,309 --> 02:47:58,043
All the saloons, and all
the stores they're going in.
3512
02:47:58,067 --> 02:47:59,354
It's the same set.
3513
02:47:59,379 --> 02:48:01,493
Mere weeks before,
De Niro was in town,
3514
02:48:01,516 --> 02:48:02,976
and he was everywhere.
3515
02:48:03,000 --> 02:48:03,941
You could see him anywhere,
and they were doing that.
3516
02:48:03,966 --> 02:48:05,251
And then we got to use the set.
3517
02:48:05,274 --> 02:48:07,837
Here's where my
four-legged friend came from.
3518
02:48:07,861 --> 02:48:09,078
Look.
3519
02:48:09,102 --> 02:48:10,527
There's a whole nest of
the sweet little things.
3520
02:48:10,550 --> 02:48:12,630
We don't have any
actual rats in the movie.
3521
02:48:12,655 --> 02:48:13,837
We have lab mice.
3522
02:48:13,861 --> 02:48:15,802
Because only lab mice
have the red eyes.
3523
02:48:15,826 --> 02:48:17,217
They dyed all of their hair.
3524
02:48:17,240 --> 02:48:18,941
It was a different
time, a different era.
3525
02:48:18,965 --> 02:48:21,458
I wouldn't say that all
of them were treated
3526
02:48:21,481 --> 02:48:22,802
the way we would do it now,
3527
02:48:22,826 --> 02:48:23,770
but we weren't going around
3528
02:48:23,793 --> 02:48:25,481
stomping on them, or anything.
3529
02:48:27,585 --> 02:48:29,769
And as you see the movie,
there's real no CGI.
3530
02:48:29,792 --> 02:48:31,734
You can tell we got rubber rats
3531
02:48:31,757 --> 02:48:33,274
on the roller, you know?
3532
02:48:35,309 --> 02:48:37,665
The movie was so low budget,
3533
02:48:37,689 --> 02:48:39,354
they recycled the dead ones
3534
02:48:39,379 --> 02:48:42,147
to throw on us in
the other scenes.
3535
02:48:42,172 --> 02:48:44,388
I've been on some
smelly sets before.
3536
02:48:44,413 --> 02:48:45,630
But you've never been on a set
3537
02:48:45,655 --> 02:48:47,734
that's been housing a
garbage can that big
3538
02:48:47,757 --> 02:48:49,137
of dead rats.
3539
02:48:50,309 --> 02:48:52,561
Suddenly they're
gassed, and they die.
3540
02:48:52,585 --> 02:48:55,286
And in the most feminine
faint in history,
3541
02:48:55,309 --> 02:48:58,240
I kind of faint like this.
3542
02:48:59,240 --> 02:49:00,871
It was a good beginning.
3543
02:49:00,896 --> 02:49:03,147
If you haven't seen
the movie before,
3544
02:49:03,172 --> 02:49:06,251
pay great attention
to the last scene.
3545
02:49:06,274 --> 02:49:08,941
And if you have seen
the movie before,
3546
02:49:08,965 --> 02:49:10,217
here's the hint.
3547
02:49:10,240 --> 02:49:12,286
That's a split scene.
3548
02:49:12,309 --> 02:49:14,000
And I played both characters.
3549
02:49:27,550 --> 02:49:32,147
The terror
starts the moment you stop
3550
02:49:32,172 --> 02:49:33,319
for "The Hitcher".
3551
02:49:33,343 --> 02:49:36,043
It's a straightforward thriller
3552
02:49:36,067 --> 02:49:38,481
that grips you
and never lets go.
3553
02:49:45,931 --> 02:49:48,527
Tobe Hooper used
to say horror films
3554
02:49:48,550 --> 02:49:49,976
are the new westerns.
3555
02:49:50,000 --> 02:49:54,251
Their mythology is all
about trying to reconcile
3556
02:49:54,274 --> 02:49:57,112
the evil within oneself,
the evil within a society,
3557
02:49:57,137 --> 02:49:58,665
the evil of a certain act,
3558
02:49:58,689 --> 02:50:01,493
with those who want
to correct it, fix it,
3559
02:50:01,516 --> 02:50:03,595
fight it, avenge it.
3560
02:50:03,620 --> 02:50:05,976
Don't you know who he is?
3561
02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:07,724
You got the wrong man, Lyle.
3562
02:50:09,137 --> 02:50:11,595
The monster in the film
is not a guy in a mask,
3563
02:50:11,620 --> 02:50:16,620
but he is exactly like Jason,
Leatherface, Michael Meyers.
3564
02:50:17,826 --> 02:50:20,319
He's simply hitching
a ride in the rain.
3565
02:50:20,343 --> 02:50:24,941
And this horrific story ensues.
3566
02:50:24,965 --> 02:50:27,527
You wanna know what
happens to an eyeball
3567
02:50:27,550 --> 02:50:28,896
when it gets punctured?
3568
02:50:30,240 --> 02:50:32,802
The movie truly only
has three characters,
3569
02:50:32,826 --> 02:50:34,561
and I love that economy.
3570
02:50:34,585 --> 02:50:37,217
It has C. Thomas Howell,
Jennifer Jason Leigh,
3571
02:50:37,240 --> 02:50:39,000
and Rutger Hauer.
3572
02:50:40,379 --> 02:50:42,354
He's one of the
scariest human beings
3573
02:50:42,379 --> 02:50:43,976
on the fucking planet.
3574
02:50:44,000 --> 02:50:46,561
His presence fills the screen.
3575
02:50:46,585 --> 02:50:47,724
That gun is empty.
3576
02:50:48,931 --> 02:50:49,931
Yeah?
3577
02:50:50,620 --> 02:50:51,494
Yeah.
3578
02:50:51,518 --> 02:50:52,734
Yeah?
3579
02:50:52,757 --> 02:50:55,217
It's a film about
being paranoid,
3580
02:50:55,240 --> 02:50:57,941
and knowing something
really bad is happening,
3581
02:50:57,965 --> 02:51:00,620
but nobody will believe you.
3582
02:51:01,448 --> 02:51:02,448
Jesus!
3583
02:51:03,826 --> 02:51:04,630
Oh my god.
3584
02:51:04,655 --> 02:51:05,458
He put that there!
3585
02:51:05,481 --> 02:51:06,481
He put that there!
3586
02:51:07,724 --> 02:51:10,078
To this day, when
I'm eating fries,
3587
02:51:10,102 --> 02:51:13,769
I always look at the
fry that I'm eating.
3588
02:51:13,792 --> 02:51:15,769
He's eating, and he gets
there, and it's a finger,
3589
02:51:15,792 --> 02:51:16,595
and you're like, fuck!
3590
02:51:16,620 --> 02:51:17,620
It's a finger!
3591
02:51:22,689 --> 02:51:24,424
They've got the
girlfriend connected,
3592
02:51:24,448 --> 02:51:26,516
chained up between
the two trucks.
3593
02:51:27,343 --> 02:51:28,527
Do something!
3594
02:51:28,550 --> 02:51:29,976
If we shoot him,
his foot is gonna come
3595
02:51:30,000 --> 02:51:32,286
off that clutch, and
that truck is gonna roll!
3596
02:51:32,309 --> 02:51:34,802
And he just looks
at C. Thomas Howell,
3597
02:51:34,826 --> 02:51:39,000
and there's that moment
of, is he gonna let her go?
3598
02:51:43,448 --> 02:51:44,871
TriStar released "The Hitcher",
3599
02:51:44,896 --> 02:51:47,112
and they were a little skittish
about the script stuff,
3600
02:51:47,137 --> 02:51:49,871
is because in 1984, the last
horror movie they released
3601
02:51:49,896 --> 02:51:51,147
was "Silent Night Deadly Night".
3602
02:51:51,172 --> 02:51:52,976
And that only had
a two week run,
3603
02:51:53,000 --> 02:51:54,976
and it was protested
out of theaters.
3604
02:51:55,000 --> 02:51:57,112
So taking a chance on a
movie like "The Hitcher",
3605
02:51:57,137 --> 02:51:58,424
they saw this script,
and they were like
3606
02:51:58,448 --> 02:52:00,137
remove the slasher elements.
3607
02:52:01,240 --> 02:52:02,240
Figure it out.
3608
02:52:03,274 --> 02:52:06,769
"The Hitcher" was in
that crossover period
3609
02:52:06,792 --> 02:52:08,424
where things were
starting to get
3610
02:52:08,448 --> 02:52:10,665
a little bit less splattery.
3611
02:52:10,689 --> 02:52:13,319
Style, that 80s video style,
3612
02:52:13,343 --> 02:52:15,976
was starting to
permeate thrillers.
3613
02:52:16,000 --> 02:52:17,319
Directed by Robert Harmon,
3614
02:52:17,343 --> 02:52:18,320
written by Eric Red,
3615
02:52:18,344 --> 02:52:19,561
who also wrote "Near Dark",
3616
02:52:19,585 --> 02:52:22,319
which is another
example of that stylized
3617
02:52:22,343 --> 02:52:23,424
horror movie making.
3618
02:52:23,448 --> 02:52:24,481
Where are you from?
3619
02:52:29,000 --> 02:52:30,182
Disneyland.
3620
02:52:30,206 --> 02:52:32,388
The late great Rutger Hauer.
3621
02:52:32,413 --> 02:52:34,665
I could do a
complete dissertation
3622
02:52:34,689 --> 02:52:38,413
on just how fucking
unappreciated he was.
3623
02:52:40,655 --> 02:52:42,700
No!
3624
02:52:42,724 --> 02:52:46,769
He could have been the head
of every horror family ever.
3625
02:52:46,792 --> 02:52:51,689
You useless waste.
3626
02:52:55,413 --> 02:52:57,481
So good.
3627
02:53:03,137 --> 02:53:05,561
Something fantastic in the 1980s
3628
02:53:05,585 --> 02:53:06,700
happened where they were like
3629
02:53:06,724 --> 02:53:08,976
"Gremlins",
"Critters", "Ghoulies".
3630
02:53:09,000 --> 02:53:11,906
There are tiny creatures,
they are going to take over,
3631
02:53:11,931 --> 02:53:13,000
and I'm into it.
3632
02:53:15,516 --> 02:53:16,757
"Critters".
3633
02:53:17,585 --> 02:53:18,734
They bite.
3634
02:53:18,757 --> 02:53:21,112
People kept trashing "Critters"
3635
02:53:21,137 --> 02:53:24,274
for being a bad cheap
imitation of "Gremlins".
3636
02:53:26,067 --> 02:53:28,078
They're not the same movie.
3637
02:53:28,102 --> 02:53:32,000
No, the critters are fucking
gonna eat you alive, man.
3638
02:53:37,931 --> 02:53:41,251
It's attitude with an
emphasis on the drama.
3639
02:53:41,274 --> 02:53:42,595
I didn't even do nothing.
3640
02:53:42,620 --> 02:53:45,561
Boy, you shot her
with a slingshot.
3641
02:53:45,585 --> 02:53:48,354
It's really just the way
Stephen Herek approached it,
3642
02:53:48,379 --> 02:53:49,734
and took it seriously.
3643
02:53:49,757 --> 02:53:51,424
We want the Krites.
3644
02:53:51,448 --> 02:53:52,630
Oh really?
3645
02:53:52,655 --> 02:53:55,458
Who are they, some new team?
3646
02:53:55,481 --> 02:53:57,837
It acts like a studio movie,
3647
02:53:57,861 --> 02:54:00,481
and it's a $2 million
little independent.
3648
02:54:02,931 --> 02:54:05,182
I love the little
country family,
3649
02:54:05,206 --> 02:54:08,137
completely innocent
of everything.
3650
02:54:14,689 --> 02:54:17,102
And boy, Dee Wallace
gives it her best.
3651
02:54:21,448 --> 02:54:23,343
Get out of my house!
3652
02:54:24,585 --> 02:54:26,343
We had so much
fun on "Critters".
3653
02:54:27,481 --> 02:54:30,043
I loved working
with Stephen Herek.
3654
02:54:30,067 --> 02:54:32,424
He was so easy to work with.
3655
02:54:32,448 --> 02:54:34,043
Always knew what he wanted.
3656
02:54:34,067 --> 02:54:35,630
And it was a tough shoot,
3657
02:54:35,655 --> 02:54:38,379
because we worked mostly nights.
3658
02:54:45,550 --> 02:54:47,424
The creature
designs in "Critters"
3659
02:54:47,448 --> 02:54:50,516
I remember thinking were
really funny when I was a kid.
3660
02:54:52,826 --> 02:54:57,826
Little creepy yet
adorable balls of spikiness,
3661
02:54:59,172 --> 02:55:01,354
and they have really
terrifying eyes and teeth,
3662
02:55:01,379 --> 02:55:03,965
but that's what
made them so fun.
3663
02:55:08,481 --> 02:55:11,078
The Chiodo brothers of
"Killer Klowns from Outer Space"
3664
02:55:11,102 --> 02:55:13,585
fame created the
Krites in "Critters".
3665
02:55:15,033 --> 02:55:17,630
With "Critters" there is an
element where you are scared
3666
02:55:17,655 --> 02:55:19,319
because you don't know
what's gonna happen.
3667
02:55:19,343 --> 02:55:21,976
They just seem in
it to destroy things
3668
02:55:22,000 --> 02:55:23,067
and kill people.
3669
02:55:25,067 --> 02:55:27,700
They didn't have the
big critter finished.
3670
02:55:27,724 --> 02:55:30,665
That's why in that one
scene, you only see his eyes
3671
02:55:30,689 --> 02:55:32,757
coming up through the window.
3672
02:55:37,931 --> 02:55:40,630
It was hard to stay in the fear
3673
02:55:40,655 --> 02:55:42,354
and everything that we had to do
3674
02:55:42,379 --> 02:55:43,595
because it was pretty funny.
3675
02:55:43,620 --> 02:55:46,458
We would be ready to do
this hysterical scene,
3676
02:55:46,481 --> 02:55:49,043
and Stephen would go
okay, roll them in.
3677
02:55:49,067 --> 02:55:52,388
Just roll the little balls
3678
02:55:52,413 --> 02:55:54,379
across the set.
3679
02:55:58,067 --> 02:56:01,458
I did not have anything to do
with the Krite and E.T. scene.
3680
02:56:01,481 --> 02:56:02,700
Nothing.
3681
02:56:02,724 --> 02:56:04,769
And the fans that
are really fans
3682
02:56:04,792 --> 02:56:06,217
that are really knowledgeable,
3683
02:56:06,240 --> 02:56:08,941
they just get off on all
that stuff, and it's great.
3684
02:56:08,965 --> 02:56:11,769
I think it's wonderful
that directors
3685
02:56:11,792 --> 02:56:15,206
throw in all those
cross references.
3686
02:56:19,000 --> 02:56:19,907
A lot of people
make horror movies
3687
02:56:19,932 --> 02:56:21,976
just because it's the easiest,
3688
02:56:22,000 --> 02:56:24,078
or what they think
will be the easiest
3689
02:56:24,102 --> 02:56:27,561
stepping stone to a career
or a paycheck or something.
3690
02:56:27,585 --> 02:56:29,802
But there's a lot of love
and craft in that movie
3691
02:56:29,826 --> 02:56:31,550
that I really appreciate.
3692
02:56:44,585 --> 02:56:47,665
"Manhunter".
3693
02:56:47,689 --> 02:56:50,251
"Manhunter"'s based off
the novel "Red Dragon"
3694
02:56:50,274 --> 02:56:53,561
by Thomas Harris, who also
made "Silence of the Lambs",
3695
02:56:53,585 --> 02:56:55,630
and just like with
"Silence of the Lambs",
3696
02:56:55,655 --> 02:56:57,630
this is a movie that
critics have to refer to
3697
02:56:57,655 --> 02:56:59,665
as a thriller rather
than a horror movie
3698
02:56:59,689 --> 02:57:01,792
so they're allowed to like it.
3699
02:57:04,896 --> 02:57:07,319
The movie is about a killer
named the Tooth Fairy
3700
02:57:07,343 --> 02:57:08,665
who bites people's faces.
3701
02:57:08,689 --> 02:57:10,448
You can't call this
a horror movie?
3702
02:57:11,792 --> 02:57:12,792
Give a kiss.
3703
02:57:17,379 --> 02:57:19,734
William Peterson plays
a detective, Will Graham,
3704
02:57:19,757 --> 02:57:21,595
who's investigating
murders being committed
3705
02:57:21,620 --> 02:57:23,769
by this killer, who we
later learn is this guy
3706
02:57:23,792 --> 02:57:25,458
called Francis Dollarhyde,
3707
02:57:25,481 --> 02:57:27,871
and the reason the novel
was called "Red Dragon"
3708
02:57:27,896 --> 02:57:31,010
is because Dollarhyde
worships this painting
3709
02:57:31,033 --> 02:57:33,802
called the Red Dragon,
and identifies himself
3710
02:57:33,826 --> 02:57:35,147
as the Red Dragon.
3711
02:57:35,172 --> 02:57:36,941
You will lie awake in fear
3712
02:57:36,965 --> 02:57:39,112
of what the Red Dragon will do.
3713
02:57:39,137 --> 02:57:41,458
Francis Dollarhyde's
played by Tom Noonan
3714
02:57:41,481 --> 02:57:44,182
who also played Frankenstein
in "The Monster Squad",
3715
02:57:44,206 --> 02:57:47,976
and he's a very, very
effectively creepy villain.
3716
02:57:48,000 --> 02:57:49,665
He's up there with Buffalo Bill
3717
02:57:49,689 --> 02:57:51,976
from "Silence of the
Lambs", in my opinion.
3718
02:57:52,000 --> 02:57:53,734
Put the fucking
lotion in the basket!
3719
02:57:53,757 --> 02:57:56,147
As a testament to how
scary Tom Noonan is,
3720
02:57:56,172 --> 02:57:58,769
he can wear pantyhose
over half of his face
3721
02:57:58,792 --> 02:58:01,388
like he's Howie Mandel
trying to blow up a glove
3722
02:58:01,413 --> 02:58:03,493
with his nose, and
still be scary.
3723
02:58:03,516 --> 02:58:06,067
Well, here I am.
3724
02:58:08,240 --> 02:58:10,424
This was the very
first screen appearance
3725
02:58:10,448 --> 02:58:12,217
of Hannibal Lecktor,
except this time
3726
02:58:12,240 --> 02:58:15,689
he's played by Brian
Cox, not Anthony Hopkins.
3727
02:58:16,896 --> 02:58:19,976
And Cox as Lecktor
is a lot more subdued
3728
02:58:20,000 --> 02:58:22,665
than Anthony Hopkins,
but he still has
3729
02:58:22,689 --> 02:58:24,802
this quiet menace about him.
3730
02:58:24,826 --> 02:58:28,010
Would you like to leave
me your home phone number?
3731
02:58:28,033 --> 02:58:30,561
Even if he seems to
be cooperating with you,
3732
02:58:30,585 --> 02:58:32,147
he still never
really lets you know
3733
02:58:32,172 --> 02:58:33,941
what his true intentions are,
3734
02:58:33,965 --> 02:58:36,665
but you can be rest assured
that they're not good,
3735
02:58:36,689 --> 02:58:38,595
and he's smarter than you are.
3736
02:58:38,620 --> 02:58:39,528
I know that I'm
not smarter than you.
3737
02:58:39,551 --> 02:58:40,871
Then how did you catch me?
3738
02:58:40,896 --> 02:58:42,286
You had disadvantages.
3739
02:58:42,309 --> 02:58:43,561
What disadvantages?
3740
02:58:43,585 --> 02:58:44,700
You're insane.
3741
02:58:44,724 --> 02:58:46,217
At this point,
Michael Mann was famous
3742
02:58:46,240 --> 02:58:47,769
for the series Miami Vice,
3743
02:58:47,792 --> 02:58:49,976
and this movie uses
a lot of the same
3744
02:58:50,000 --> 02:58:53,274
color scheme, a lot of
the same use of music.
3745
02:58:57,033 --> 02:59:00,043
In a way, this could almost
be like a really scary
3746
02:59:00,067 --> 02:59:01,837
extended episode of Miami Vice,
3747
02:59:01,861 --> 02:59:03,837
and I think that kind of
ended up overshadowing
3748
02:59:03,861 --> 02:59:05,550
the movie a little bit.
3749
02:59:16,826 --> 02:59:21,010
Wes Craven, a very
groundbreaking filmmaker,
3750
02:59:21,033 --> 02:59:22,424
whenever his name was on a film,
3751
02:59:22,448 --> 02:59:24,906
I would always either go
and see it or rent it.
3752
02:59:24,931 --> 02:59:27,595
He definitely had a
shaky track record.
3753
02:59:27,620 --> 02:59:30,112
But it seemed like
he was always looking
3754
02:59:30,137 --> 02:59:32,413
to find something
that would catch on.
3755
02:59:33,931 --> 02:59:36,630
He was always doing these
very interesting stories
3756
02:59:36,655 --> 02:59:40,458
about how kids were
dealing with a lot
3757
02:59:40,481 --> 02:59:42,906
in terms of their family
dynamics, and things like that,
3758
02:59:42,931 --> 02:59:45,424
and we see that especially
in the movie "Deadly Friend".
3759
02:59:45,448 --> 02:59:47,620
"Deadly Friend".
3760
02:59:48,757 --> 02:59:52,424
She can't live without you.
3761
02:59:52,448 --> 02:59:56,802
"Deadly Friend" was adapted
from a story called "Friend".
3762
02:59:56,826 --> 02:59:58,837
They were trying to
make this love story.
3763
02:59:58,861 --> 03:00:00,354
A little bit of science
fiction element,
3764
03:00:00,379 --> 03:00:03,010
little bit of action,
little bit of horror.
3765
03:00:03,033 --> 03:00:04,251
We're pretty close approaching
3766
03:00:04,274 --> 03:00:05,976
the way a normal
human brain works.
3767
03:00:06,000 --> 03:00:07,837
"Deadly Friend" is
about a guy named Paul
3768
03:00:07,861 --> 03:00:09,286
who is a genius.
3769
03:00:09,309 --> 03:00:12,067
He's created this
robot friend named BB,
3770
03:00:13,481 --> 03:00:16,010
a robot with super strength
who thinks for himself,
3771
03:00:16,033 --> 03:00:18,734
and has emotions,
and feels things.
3772
03:00:18,757 --> 03:00:20,527
What could go wrong with
that kind of strength?
3773
03:00:20,550 --> 03:00:22,448
Well, turns out everything.
3774
03:00:23,413 --> 03:00:25,010
I'm side eyeing this robot here,
3775
03:00:25,033 --> 03:00:26,700
because that robot's a killer
3776
03:00:26,724 --> 03:00:29,413
just waiting for
an excuse to kill.
3777
03:00:30,655 --> 03:00:32,976
Sam was played by
Kristy Swanson,
3778
03:00:33,000 --> 03:00:35,240
who we love her as
the original Buffy.
3779
03:00:36,826 --> 03:00:38,424
Dad just will beat her,
3780
03:00:38,448 --> 03:00:40,274
which is terrible.
3781
03:00:41,826 --> 03:00:43,976
He yells at her, and then
throws her down the stairs.
3782
03:00:44,000 --> 03:00:45,700
You whiny little bitch!
3783
03:00:45,724 --> 03:00:46,724
Ow!
3784
03:00:49,620 --> 03:00:50,802
She dies.
3785
03:00:50,826 --> 03:00:53,010
Paul's like, I think
I can save her.
3786
03:00:53,033 --> 03:00:55,286
You're giving her a robot brain?
3787
03:00:55,309 --> 03:00:56,550
Giving her a computer.
3788
03:00:57,724 --> 03:00:59,217
It's a battery powered
self-contained computer.
3789
03:00:59,240 --> 03:01:02,043
So now he has a robot's brain
3790
03:01:02,067 --> 03:01:05,010
in a human girl's
body, but she's dead,
3791
03:01:05,033 --> 03:01:06,700
so he has to hide her, or
else she's walking around,
3792
03:01:06,724 --> 03:01:08,217
she's a zombie, right?
3793
03:01:08,240 --> 03:01:09,734
And then it all goes badly,
and I'm glad it goes badly,
3794
03:01:09,757 --> 03:01:11,388
because it would be weird
if it didn't go badly.
3795
03:01:11,413 --> 03:01:14,976
She sort of becomes
this very interesting
3796
03:01:15,000 --> 03:01:16,941
kind of totem, in a way.
3797
03:01:16,965 --> 03:01:19,354
How she's able to
right the wrongs
3798
03:01:19,379 --> 03:01:20,630
of the way that
she's been treated,
3799
03:01:20,655 --> 03:01:22,585
the way other people
have been treated.
3800
03:01:27,172 --> 03:01:28,769
Elvira, played by Ann Ramsey.
3801
03:01:28,792 --> 03:01:32,217
She's that gun-toting
get off my lawn
3802
03:01:32,240 --> 03:01:35,251
times 40 Karen that
you could meet, right?
3803
03:01:35,274 --> 03:01:36,630
Who's out there?
3804
03:01:36,655 --> 03:01:37,563
What are you doing?
3805
03:01:37,586 --> 03:01:39,734
It's just me, Ms. Parker!
3806
03:01:39,757 --> 03:01:41,010
What is that?
3807
03:01:41,033 --> 03:01:41,872
BB!
3808
03:01:41,897 --> 03:01:43,354
But we love her.
3809
03:01:43,379 --> 03:01:44,976
We love Ann Ramsey from
"Throw Mama From the Train",
3810
03:01:45,000 --> 03:01:46,286
and from "Goonies".
3811
03:01:46,309 --> 03:01:50,837
We love her in that mean
scary woman character.
3812
03:01:50,861 --> 03:01:52,585
Damn kids.
3813
03:01:53,481 --> 03:01:54,459
BB picks up the ball,
3814
03:01:54,483 --> 03:01:56,319
and throws it at Elvira's head,
3815
03:01:56,343 --> 03:01:58,448
and her whole head explodes.
3816
03:02:02,000 --> 03:02:05,665
The whole head goes
3817
03:02:05,689 --> 03:02:08,274
That's my favorite
kill of the movie.
3818
03:02:10,655 --> 03:02:11,871
When they had
the movie together,
3819
03:02:11,896 --> 03:02:14,010
a studio watched it,
and they said, no.
3820
03:02:14,033 --> 03:02:16,871
This needs more violence.
3821
03:02:16,896 --> 03:02:18,458
It needs to be gory.
3822
03:02:18,481 --> 03:02:20,837
Because they're under
contract with the studio,
3823
03:02:20,861 --> 03:02:23,319
they went back and
shot gore scenes.
3824
03:02:23,343 --> 03:02:25,458
Then they were told
it was too much.
3825
03:02:25,481 --> 03:02:27,043
They needed to be trimmed.
3826
03:02:27,067 --> 03:02:31,769
So the creativeness is
pulled back from Wes Craven.
3827
03:02:31,792 --> 03:02:33,976
Another movie where
everybody had fun.
3828
03:02:34,000 --> 03:02:35,620
But I don't think
Wes Craven did.
3829
03:02:51,379 --> 03:02:53,147
♪ Rock and roll
3830
03:02:53,172 --> 03:02:54,561
"Trick or Treat".
3831
03:02:54,585 --> 03:02:57,931
The ultimate rock
and roll horror movie.
3832
03:03:02,448 --> 03:03:05,802
The perfect mixture
of the mythos
3833
03:03:05,826 --> 03:03:09,078
behind the heavy metal
culture in the 80s.
3834
03:03:09,102 --> 03:03:13,286
Just a great misfit
in high school story,
3835
03:03:13,309 --> 03:03:15,700
which I totally related to.
3836
03:03:15,724 --> 03:03:16,837
All right, so "Trick or Treat".
3837
03:03:16,861 --> 03:03:19,458
You had Ozzy Osborne,
Gene Simmons,
3838
03:03:19,481 --> 03:03:21,286
and Skippy from Family Ties.
3839
03:03:21,309 --> 03:03:23,802
One of these things
is not like the other.
3840
03:03:23,826 --> 03:03:25,734
Rockstar Sammi Curr,
3841
03:03:25,757 --> 03:03:27,343
victim of a hotel fire.
3842
03:03:28,516 --> 03:03:30,527
Dead at age 38.
3843
03:03:30,550 --> 03:03:33,561
A rockstar dies, and then
this evil something or other
3844
03:03:33,585 --> 03:03:35,319
comes back as a rockstar.
3845
03:03:35,343 --> 03:03:37,837
I knew that "Trick or
Treat" was just candy.
3846
03:03:37,861 --> 03:03:40,561
It tastes sweet and
then it goes away.
3847
03:03:40,585 --> 03:03:42,976
It's a story of Ragman.
3848
03:03:43,000 --> 03:03:44,595
He is picked on, he's bullied
3849
03:03:44,620 --> 03:03:46,665
by pretty much everybody.
3850
03:03:46,689 --> 03:03:48,906
I wanna nail every
one of those bastards!
3851
03:03:48,931 --> 03:03:51,319
I don't know how,
I don't know when,
3852
03:03:51,343 --> 03:03:52,976
but I'm gonna nail them.
3853
03:03:53,000 --> 03:03:54,630
His hero is Sammi Curr,
3854
03:03:54,655 --> 03:03:58,700
who is demonic,
dark, in your face.
3855
03:03:58,724 --> 03:04:00,700
He ends up killing
himself in a ritual,
3856
03:04:00,724 --> 03:04:02,112
setting himself on fire.
3857
03:04:02,137 --> 03:04:06,976
His soul gets trapped
in the acetate demo
3858
03:04:07,000 --> 03:04:09,388
that Gene Simmons has.
3859
03:04:09,413 --> 03:04:10,700
This is very cool.
3860
03:04:10,724 --> 03:04:12,802
And then when you
play it backwards,
3861
03:04:12,826 --> 03:04:14,802
he comes back from the dead.
3862
03:04:14,826 --> 03:04:15,826
You.
3863
03:04:17,757 --> 03:04:20,286
Great cameos by Gene,
3864
03:04:20,309 --> 03:04:24,458
and then Ozzy as the Bible
thumping PMRC minister.
3865
03:04:24,481 --> 03:04:27,481
These evil people have
just got to be stopped.
3866
03:04:30,206 --> 03:04:33,033
And it's just so off the hook.
3867
03:04:35,343 --> 03:04:37,078
They were looking at a
lot of different rock stars
3868
03:04:37,102 --> 03:04:38,700
to play Sammi Curr.
3869
03:04:38,724 --> 03:04:39,861
Eddie.
3870
03:04:41,620 --> 03:04:42,871
We had a deal.
3871
03:04:42,896 --> 03:04:45,010
I didn't wanna be this
guy with leather studs.
3872
03:04:45,033 --> 03:04:47,665
I was much more
interested in the DJ.
3873
03:04:47,689 --> 03:04:50,458
It's party time, yeah!
3874
03:04:50,481 --> 03:04:51,734
This is the old
Nooser coming at ya
3875
03:04:51,757 --> 03:04:55,010
right here on this fine,
fine Rocktober morning.
3876
03:04:55,033 --> 03:04:56,595
It's the sweeping sensation,
3877
03:04:56,620 --> 03:04:59,319
like patterned
after Wolfman Jack,
3878
03:04:59,343 --> 03:05:00,976
who was a DJ at the time.
3879
03:05:01,000 --> 03:05:03,182
I just had two or three
weeks off between a tour,
3880
03:05:03,206 --> 03:05:05,078
and wound up doing it.
3881
03:05:05,102 --> 03:05:06,493
Eh, Ragman!
3882
03:05:06,516 --> 03:05:08,976
I remember I was so
excited to meet him.
3883
03:05:09,000 --> 03:05:11,595
I said to him, hey Gene Simmons,
3884
03:05:11,620 --> 03:05:13,010
can you do the thing
with the tongue?
3885
03:05:13,033 --> 03:05:15,976
And he said no, I only
do that for girls.
3886
03:05:16,000 --> 03:05:17,527
Tony Fields was genuinely scary
3887
03:05:17,550 --> 03:05:18,585
playing Sammi Curr.
3888
03:05:20,413 --> 03:05:21,630
Hiya, bud.
3889
03:05:21,655 --> 03:05:23,043
Boy, he got that
rockstar stuff down.
3890
03:05:23,067 --> 03:05:25,976
He could dance and sing
and move with the guitar
3891
03:05:26,000 --> 03:05:27,217
and jump off the stage,
3892
03:05:27,240 --> 03:05:29,147
and capable of so much,
3893
03:05:29,172 --> 03:05:31,206
and we lost him way too young.
3894
03:05:34,137 --> 03:05:37,217
The film script was
funnier and darker.
3895
03:05:37,240 --> 03:05:41,354
I think what we ended up with
was something in the middle.
3896
03:05:41,379 --> 03:05:43,493
Charlie Martin Smith was
directing for the first time,
3897
03:05:43,516 --> 03:05:45,319
"Trick or Treat", that
was his first time.
3898
03:05:45,343 --> 03:05:47,665
We had a kinship, a
nerd-like kinship,
3899
03:05:47,689 --> 03:05:50,354
that other directors
might not have picked me.
3900
03:05:50,379 --> 03:05:51,458
I have to be honest with you.
3901
03:05:51,481 --> 03:05:53,102
Keanu Reeves was up for it.
3902
03:05:57,655 --> 03:05:58,871
The gore is great,
the kills are great.
3903
03:05:58,896 --> 03:06:01,458
When he yanks the old
lady through the TV,
3904
03:06:01,481 --> 03:06:03,976
and she just immediately
turns to dust.
3905
03:06:04,000 --> 03:06:06,217
Uh, what the shit
just happened, dude?
3906
03:06:06,240 --> 03:06:08,000
This is insane.
3907
03:06:10,102 --> 03:06:11,769
We were blessed
to get Kevin Yagher
3908
03:06:11,792 --> 03:06:14,413
to do the special effects
and the makeup in the film.
3909
03:06:16,067 --> 03:06:17,941
It was the first time that
I had acted in a movie
3910
03:06:17,965 --> 03:06:20,931
with an imaginary monster, and
things happening, and stuff.
3911
03:06:22,724 --> 03:06:23,941
Oh.
3912
03:06:23,965 --> 03:06:28,550
Of course, the amazing
soundtrack by Fastway.
3913
03:06:29,309 --> 03:06:30,630
♪ Rock and roll
3914
03:06:30,655 --> 03:06:32,561
♪ Rockin' on a midnight
3915
03:06:32,585 --> 03:06:35,941
♪ Steal your soul
3916
03:06:35,965 --> 03:06:38,871
Just such a killer
collection of great tunes
3917
03:06:38,896 --> 03:06:40,802
that I still listen
to to this day.
3918
03:06:40,826 --> 03:06:41,700
♪ On a midnight
3919
03:06:41,725 --> 03:06:43,147
♪ Steal your soul
3920
03:06:43,172 --> 03:06:44,595
We were giddy, it was so good.
3921
03:06:44,620 --> 03:06:46,527
We were like, this is good.
3922
03:06:46,550 --> 03:06:48,286
If the film was successful
when it came out,
3923
03:06:48,309 --> 03:06:50,493
it wasn't successful enough
for them to do the sequel,
3924
03:06:50,516 --> 03:06:53,595
and I'm not still
living off of it.
3925
03:06:53,620 --> 03:06:56,319
If you think about all the
movies that are out there,
3926
03:06:56,343 --> 03:06:59,240
it's unimaginable that people
still care about this movie.
3927
03:07:01,965 --> 03:07:02,976
Un fucking real.
3928
03:07:03,000 --> 03:07:06,343
Heavy metal fans stayed true.
3929
03:07:16,689 --> 03:07:18,976
Marty Rantzen is still a dork,
3930
03:07:19,000 --> 03:07:20,802
but tonight he's getting even.
3931
03:07:20,826 --> 03:07:23,757
Vestron Pictures presents
"Slaughter High".
3932
03:07:25,620 --> 03:07:27,251
April fool's!
3933
03:07:27,274 --> 03:07:30,871
"Slaughter High" is about a kid
3934
03:07:30,896 --> 03:07:33,561
that gets bullied, and
years later at a reunion,
3935
03:07:33,585 --> 03:07:34,527
he comes back.
3936
03:07:34,550 --> 03:07:35,550
Starts killing.
3937
03:07:42,033 --> 03:07:43,734
It's a revenge film.
3938
03:07:43,757 --> 03:07:46,010
It's a horrible prank,
and a prank that went
3939
03:07:46,033 --> 03:07:48,010
horribly wrong for
everybody else.
3940
03:07:48,033 --> 03:07:49,217
I'm sorry, Marty.
3941
03:07:49,240 --> 03:07:50,724
We didn't mean to!
3942
03:07:52,343 --> 03:07:54,665
First of all, it was
called "April Fool's Day",
3943
03:07:54,689 --> 03:07:57,043
and of course, that's like the
American "April Fool's Day",
3944
03:07:57,067 --> 03:07:59,516
so we had to change the title.
3945
03:08:00,689 --> 03:08:02,251
It was meant to be
shot in the States,
3946
03:08:02,274 --> 03:08:05,527
and there was no budget, so
it was all shot in England.
3947
03:08:05,550 --> 03:08:06,941
Three directors.
3948
03:08:06,965 --> 03:08:08,630
George Dugdale, my husband.
3949
03:08:08,655 --> 03:08:11,700
Peter Mackenzie
Litten, and Mark Ezra.
3950
03:08:11,724 --> 03:08:13,906
They all took different roles.
3951
03:08:13,931 --> 03:08:15,906
Peter Litten did
the special effects,
3952
03:08:15,931 --> 03:08:18,689
so he'd step in and
do those scenes.
3953
03:08:21,000 --> 03:08:23,217
Mark was more the writer,
and George would be
3954
03:08:23,240 --> 03:08:25,595
very hands-on as the
physical director,
3955
03:08:25,620 --> 03:08:26,665
which worked really well.
3956
03:08:26,689 --> 03:08:28,112
Good friends.
3957
03:08:28,137 --> 03:08:30,137
I've never had that before,
but it was interesting.
3958
03:08:31,240 --> 03:08:32,769
Carol, my character.
3959
03:08:32,792 --> 03:08:33,871
Come on.
3960
03:08:33,896 --> 03:08:35,112
Come on.
3961
03:08:35,137 --> 03:08:36,595
She wasn't a very
nice person at all.
3962
03:08:36,620 --> 03:08:37,871
She was a bit of a tease,
3963
03:08:37,896 --> 03:08:40,319
and she thought she
was the bees knees.
3964
03:08:40,343 --> 03:08:41,941
And she was meant to
be an 18-year-old.
3965
03:08:41,965 --> 03:08:42,872
I'm sorry.
3966
03:08:42,897 --> 03:08:45,665
I was in my 30s at that point.
3967
03:08:45,689 --> 03:08:47,182
They were clever in the casting,
3968
03:08:47,206 --> 03:08:49,941
because they got people in
their late 20s and stuff,
3969
03:08:49,965 --> 03:08:51,527
so it didn't look
too out of place.
3970
03:08:51,550 --> 03:08:54,458
You filthy stinking
bastard, Marty!
3971
03:08:54,481 --> 03:08:56,388
What do you want from us?
3972
03:08:56,413 --> 03:08:58,286
There was a mix of Brit actors,
3973
03:08:58,309 --> 03:09:00,424
and then we had about
four, five Americans,
3974
03:09:00,448 --> 03:09:02,067
so that made it credible.
3975
03:09:03,792 --> 03:09:05,078
Simon Scuddamore.
3976
03:09:05,102 --> 03:09:07,286
Very intense, and he
did a brilliant job.
3977
03:09:07,309 --> 03:09:09,458
He made Marty
totally come to life.
3978
03:09:09,481 --> 03:09:11,000
It was wonderful.
3979
03:09:13,516 --> 03:09:14,769
How do you want it?
3980
03:09:14,792 --> 03:09:15,665
Please, stop!
3981
03:09:15,690 --> 03:09:17,078
No!
3982
03:09:17,102 --> 03:09:18,458
And what they did, I
don't know why they did it,
3983
03:09:18,481 --> 03:09:21,527
it was just like a
pack of hyenas, really.
3984
03:09:21,550 --> 03:09:23,458
The scene with
the bunsen burner.
3985
03:09:23,481 --> 03:09:25,620
They did such a
good job with that.
3986
03:09:29,102 --> 03:09:30,319
No CGI.
3987
03:09:30,343 --> 03:09:32,620
All practically done
in front of your eyes.
3988
03:09:35,172 --> 03:09:36,700
It all sets on fire.
3989
03:09:36,724 --> 03:09:38,112
I think it's a
fabulous sequence.
3990
03:09:38,137 --> 03:09:39,769
It's a kind of
tongue-in-cheek play
3991
03:09:39,792 --> 03:09:43,137
upon other films that
were maybe more serious.
3992
03:09:44,896 --> 03:09:47,861
Given the budget, I think
it stands up quite well.
3993
03:09:50,689 --> 03:09:52,976
People seem to like it,
especially in the States
3994
03:09:53,000 --> 03:09:53,804
when I go there.
3995
03:09:53,827 --> 03:09:55,182
They say, we love it.
3996
03:09:55,206 --> 03:09:57,078
I say, what do
you like about it?
3997
03:09:57,102 --> 03:10:00,931
They say it's so cheesy,
we just love it.
3998
03:10:05,000 --> 03:10:06,182
Maybe it is a bit cheesy,
3999
03:10:06,206 --> 03:10:08,078
but it's cheesy and fun,
4000
03:10:08,102 --> 03:10:10,217
and the effects were
really well done,
4001
03:10:10,240 --> 03:10:12,941
and hopefully the acting's okay.
4002
03:10:12,965 --> 03:10:14,172
Look, Manny.
4003
03:10:15,379 --> 03:10:18,802
The guy's weird, the
story's weird, and-
4004
03:10:18,826 --> 03:10:19,631
And what?
4005
03:10:19,656 --> 03:10:21,000
And you're weird.
4006
03:10:29,792 --> 03:10:32,630
"Class of Nuke 'Em High",
like all Troma movies,
4007
03:10:32,655 --> 03:10:36,458
was a movie ripped
from today's headlines.
4008
03:10:36,481 --> 03:10:39,493
There was a nuclear
power plant being built
4009
03:10:39,516 --> 03:10:42,388
about a quarter of a mile
away from the United States'
4010
03:10:42,413 --> 03:10:45,527
most populous city,
namely New York City.
4011
03:10:45,550 --> 03:10:47,043
And right next to where I lived,
4012
03:10:47,067 --> 03:10:50,217
so that gave me the idea
of let's talk about that.
4013
03:10:50,240 --> 03:10:52,458
But sir, if we could just
shut down for 48 hours-
4014
03:10:52,481 --> 03:10:53,769
Shut down?
4015
03:10:53,792 --> 03:10:55,010
They'll investigate us.
4016
03:10:55,033 --> 03:10:56,527
The EPA, the NRC.
4017
03:10:56,550 --> 03:10:59,837
"Class of Nuke 'Em High" is
like a Cuisinart of genres.
4018
03:10:59,861 --> 03:11:03,010
People really enjoyed the
mixture of humor and horror,
4019
03:11:03,033 --> 03:11:07,067
and social satire, and
politics, and violence.
4020
03:11:10,620 --> 03:11:11,734
It's an excellent film.
4021
03:11:11,757 --> 03:11:13,182
It's very entertaining.
4022
03:11:13,206 --> 03:11:16,630
It's got something to say
about pollution and radiation.
4023
03:11:16,655 --> 03:11:17,941
We have found no connection
4024
03:11:17,965 --> 03:11:19,976
between that unfortunate student
4025
03:11:20,000 --> 03:11:21,182
and this facility.
4026
03:11:21,206 --> 03:11:22,493
I almost killed
one of my kids in it.
4027
03:11:22,516 --> 03:11:23,906
That was kinda fun.
4028
03:11:23,931 --> 03:11:26,665
We had to have a motorcycle
run into a bake sale
4029
03:11:26,689 --> 03:11:28,976
with a lot of women with cakes,
4030
03:11:29,000 --> 03:11:31,286
and I put my wife and kid
right in the center of it,
4031
03:11:31,309 --> 03:11:33,931
so that if anybody got
hurt, you know, my fault.
4032
03:11:35,896 --> 03:11:38,561
Nothing happened, but
they came pretty close.
4033
03:11:38,585 --> 03:11:40,527
Well, the whole idea of
blowing up your school,
4034
03:11:40,550 --> 03:11:41,802
I always loved that.
4035
03:11:41,826 --> 03:11:43,251
And I think that was
one of the reasons
4036
03:11:43,274 --> 03:11:44,354
it was successful.
4037
03:11:44,379 --> 03:11:46,309
We literally destroyed a school.
4038
03:11:50,033 --> 03:11:51,700
Once it got into theaters,
4039
03:11:51,724 --> 03:11:53,561
we made over 100 prints.
4040
03:11:53,585 --> 03:11:56,458
A video cassette company called
Media Home Entertainment,
4041
03:11:56,481 --> 03:11:59,976
they sold over 500,000
video cassettes
4042
03:12:00,000 --> 03:12:02,724
around 200 bucks for
a video cassette.
4043
03:12:04,343 --> 03:12:05,595
You know, "Class
of Nuke 'Em High"
4044
03:12:05,620 --> 03:12:08,286
is still very popular with fans.
4045
03:12:08,309 --> 03:12:09,493
Nostalgic, too.
4046
03:12:09,516 --> 03:12:10,941
We've got all these young people
4047
03:12:10,965 --> 03:12:12,424
who are now in their 50s
4048
03:12:12,448 --> 03:12:14,493
who still like "Class
of Nuke 'Em High".
4049
03:12:14,516 --> 03:12:17,172
They want to see
the future, but now.
4050
03:12:19,240 --> 03:12:20,700
It's a good movie.
4051
03:12:20,724 --> 03:12:22,665
It's so good that there's
"Subhumanoid Meltdown:
4052
03:12:22,689 --> 03:12:24,112
"Class of Nuke 'Em High Part 2",
4053
03:12:24,137 --> 03:12:25,734
"The Good the Bad
and the Subhumanoid:
4054
03:12:25,757 --> 03:12:27,424
"Class of Nuke 'Em High Part 3".
4055
03:12:27,448 --> 03:12:28,941
There are five of them.
4056
03:12:28,965 --> 03:12:30,147
Tromaville High School will be
4057
03:12:30,172 --> 03:12:32,102
temporarily closed
for remodeling.
4058
03:12:33,067 --> 03:12:34,620
All right!
4059
03:12:41,861 --> 03:12:44,240
This is actually
based on a true story.
4060
03:12:45,240 --> 03:12:46,493
"The Zero Boys".
4061
03:12:46,516 --> 03:12:49,976
Dawn of a new breed of heroes.
4062
03:12:50,000 --> 03:12:52,319
This really did happen
upstate California.
4063
03:12:52,343 --> 03:12:54,976
There was a group of people
that would go paintballing,
4064
03:12:55,000 --> 03:12:57,379
and there was a maniac
that would kill them.
4065
03:13:00,792 --> 03:13:04,078
Somebody said I'm gonna write
a movie about this, and did.
4066
03:13:04,102 --> 03:13:05,837
In the movie, there's a
group, and they're called
4067
03:13:05,861 --> 03:13:09,010
the Zero Boys, because they
never, ever, ever, ever win.
4068
03:13:09,033 --> 03:13:10,871
But this one time, they won.
4069
03:13:10,896 --> 03:13:11,896
Do it.
4070
03:13:12,620 --> 03:13:14,769
The Zero Boys are the best!
4071
03:13:14,792 --> 03:13:16,286
Fucking assholes.
4072
03:13:16,309 --> 03:13:18,871
And they won my character.
4073
03:13:18,896 --> 03:13:21,595
And so she's very
unhappy about that.
4074
03:13:21,620 --> 03:13:24,837
I am so thrilled to
be with the champions.
4075
03:13:24,861 --> 03:13:26,043
Go on.
4076
03:13:26,067 --> 03:13:27,458
Show me what makes
the Zero Boys tick.
4077
03:13:27,481 --> 03:13:29,388
So they get up there,
and all of a sudden
4078
03:13:29,413 --> 03:13:30,389
something is wrong.
4079
03:13:30,414 --> 03:13:32,067
Jamie.
4080
03:13:37,102 --> 03:13:40,078
It was kind of more getting
into the torture thing,
4081
03:13:40,102 --> 03:13:42,102
like really kind
of sick and weird.
4082
03:13:44,655 --> 03:13:46,424
Directed by Nico Mastorakis,
4083
03:13:46,448 --> 03:13:51,010
who was this Greek guy who loved
action exploitation horror.
4084
03:13:51,033 --> 03:13:54,319
And Nico just delivers this
powerhouse of action movie
4085
03:13:54,343 --> 03:13:56,112
mixed with horror.
4086
03:13:56,137 --> 03:13:58,112
The running and the
hanging by our feet
4087
03:13:58,137 --> 03:13:59,665
and all that other
kind of stuff,
4088
03:13:59,689 --> 03:14:03,112
a lot of inventiveness with
weapons, and crossbows,
4089
03:14:03,137 --> 03:14:04,689
and things like that.
4090
03:14:06,206 --> 03:14:08,251
And this movie is
brilliantly photographed
4091
03:14:08,274 --> 03:14:09,769
by Steve Shaw.
4092
03:14:09,792 --> 03:14:11,734
Every shot of that movie
is almost like a painting,
4093
03:14:11,757 --> 03:14:14,700
especially when they're
out in the wilderness.
4094
03:14:14,724 --> 03:14:16,217
It was a lot of running
around in the woods,
4095
03:14:16,240 --> 03:14:17,458
that's for sure.
4096
03:14:17,481 --> 03:14:18,837
Everybody camped
together and went
4097
03:14:18,861 --> 03:14:20,700
we have a serious problem here.
4098
03:14:20,724 --> 03:14:21,871
What are we going to do?
4099
03:14:21,896 --> 03:14:23,976
And did it as a group.
4100
03:14:24,000 --> 03:14:26,182
You have to get engaged
with the characters,
4101
03:14:26,206 --> 03:14:28,527
and care about them,
or relate to them,
4102
03:14:28,550 --> 03:14:31,147
or have an opinion about them.
4103
03:14:31,172 --> 03:14:32,941
If you don't know
who these people are
4104
03:14:32,965 --> 03:14:35,319
on an intimate level,
then you don't care.
4105
03:14:35,343 --> 03:14:37,206
We wanna care.
4106
03:14:39,516 --> 03:14:41,112
My favorite kill
in "The Zero Boys",
4107
03:14:41,137 --> 03:14:43,251
he falls into this
pit of spikes,
4108
03:14:43,274 --> 03:14:44,861
and then you can't get out.
4109
03:14:48,620 --> 03:14:51,067
But it was a good kill.
4110
03:14:53,861 --> 03:14:55,802
Joe Estevez played the killer,
4111
03:14:55,826 --> 03:14:58,010
and he looks exactly
like Martin Sheen.
4112
03:14:58,033 --> 03:15:00,182
Probably scarier, because
he has more experience
4113
03:15:00,206 --> 03:15:02,240
doing these kinds of things.
4114
03:15:06,343 --> 03:15:08,700
It was Hans Zimmer's
first American score.
4115
03:15:08,724 --> 03:15:10,481
Frank Darabont was on the crew.
4116
03:15:12,206 --> 03:15:14,251
I remember he was
telling us all about
4117
03:15:14,274 --> 03:15:16,286
how he had a story
that he bought
4118
03:15:16,309 --> 03:15:18,078
from Stephen King for a dollar,
4119
03:15:18,102 --> 03:15:20,826
and it was "Shawshank
Redemption".
4120
03:15:23,102 --> 03:15:25,906
"The Zero Boys" is under the
radar because it always was.
4121
03:15:25,931 --> 03:15:27,871
It was always an
underground thing.
4122
03:15:27,896 --> 03:15:29,251
What's scary about
"The Zero Boys"
4123
03:15:29,274 --> 03:15:31,354
is you could be doing
something that you love to do,
4124
03:15:31,379 --> 03:15:32,724
and be in mortal danger.
4125
03:15:34,861 --> 03:15:36,861
There's no place safe.
4126
03:15:47,309 --> 03:15:50,871
My real name is George Tani.
4127
03:15:50,896 --> 03:15:53,010
Growing up, I was very impressed
4128
03:15:53,033 --> 03:15:55,112
with Ray Harry Haroldon movies.
4129
03:15:55,137 --> 03:15:57,388
"Jason and the Argonauts".
4130
03:15:57,413 --> 03:15:59,769
My dad took me to the theater.
4131
03:15:59,792 --> 03:16:02,734
He said it's gonna be fun,
it's gonna be a fighting movie.
4132
03:16:02,757 --> 03:16:04,043
It's like a skeleton, you
know, you're gonna like it.
4133
03:16:04,067 --> 03:16:06,286
And I said oh, that's great.
4134
03:16:06,309 --> 03:16:09,147
I have been watching
"Godzilla", and all those,
4135
03:16:09,172 --> 03:16:11,010
tojo and kaiju films.
4136
03:16:11,033 --> 03:16:13,516
When I saw "Howling".
4137
03:16:18,000 --> 03:16:22,665
The first time I saw the man
turned into the werewolf,
4138
03:16:22,689 --> 03:16:25,078
changing right in
front of my eye,
4139
03:16:25,102 --> 03:16:28,067
I was like, this is it.
4140
03:16:33,550 --> 03:16:36,527
And then you see more coming up
4141
03:16:36,550 --> 03:16:39,319
from Rick Baker, and Rob Bottin.
4142
03:16:39,343 --> 03:16:43,206
And then Dick Smith's
"Altered States".
4143
03:16:46,481 --> 03:16:50,871
The images of that
really made me decide
4144
03:16:50,896 --> 03:16:52,931
this is the way to go.
4145
03:16:58,000 --> 03:17:01,319
When I went to New
York studying in school
4146
03:17:01,343 --> 03:17:05,481
of visual arts, right in the
beginning of punk movement.
4147
03:17:06,413 --> 03:17:07,976
♪ God save the queen
4148
03:17:08,000 --> 03:17:10,010
I saw the art side of it.
4149
03:17:10,033 --> 03:17:13,251
Punk music really
gave me the art,
4150
03:17:13,274 --> 03:17:16,010
okay, we can do a
lot more on edge.
4151
03:17:16,033 --> 03:17:20,000
I can perform something
shocking to the people.
4152
03:17:21,826 --> 03:17:25,424
"Nightmare 4", my effect
was Debbie's roach,
4153
03:17:25,448 --> 03:17:26,941
the girl that hates
the cockroach,
4154
03:17:26,965 --> 03:17:28,424
and then she
becomes a cockroach,
4155
03:17:28,448 --> 03:17:32,217
and then crushed by Freddie.
4156
03:17:32,240 --> 03:17:36,630
That's like Kafka, you know?
4157
03:17:36,655 --> 03:17:39,319
And this is a surreal sequence.
4158
03:17:39,343 --> 03:17:41,182
The fake body, we take it off
4159
03:17:41,206 --> 03:17:43,112
so she can put her head out,
4160
03:17:43,137 --> 03:17:45,734
and fake arm, it breaks.
4161
03:17:45,757 --> 03:17:48,734
It's old trick, but the images,
4162
03:17:48,757 --> 03:17:51,896
and what happening,
really creep them out.
4163
03:17:52,792 --> 03:17:54,620
Everybody is like really, ugh!
4164
03:17:56,516 --> 03:17:57,976
That's gross!
4165
03:17:58,000 --> 03:18:00,620
I succeeded the illusion.
4166
03:18:01,620 --> 03:18:04,343
I'm very proud of that show.
4167
03:18:10,067 --> 03:18:11,251
It was Brian Yuzna.
4168
03:18:11,274 --> 03:18:13,976
We were really creating
the scene together.
4169
03:18:14,000 --> 03:18:16,217
Especially the
chanting sequence.
4170
03:18:16,240 --> 03:18:21,000
It's a real grotesque orgy.
4171
03:18:26,000 --> 03:18:27,493
I love Dali.
4172
03:18:27,516 --> 03:18:31,769
Dali is the one that
made me really into art.
4173
03:18:31,792 --> 03:18:34,734
My crew was all
inside, you know?
4174
03:18:34,757 --> 03:18:36,976
Inside of that creature.
4175
03:18:37,000 --> 03:18:38,182
They can move.
4176
03:18:38,206 --> 03:18:41,595
That's why you don't
have to have expensive
4177
03:18:41,620 --> 03:18:43,481
mechanical movement, you know?
4178
03:18:44,689 --> 03:18:47,102
And the people can
move organically.
4179
03:18:51,102 --> 03:18:54,561
I put in my 200, 300% on it.
4180
03:18:54,585 --> 03:18:58,217
So my sleeping time is
really maybe average
4181
03:18:58,240 --> 03:19:00,458
of two hours a
day, or something,
4182
03:19:00,481 --> 03:19:02,274
during the show.
4183
03:19:03,620 --> 03:19:05,700
There was not much
budget, so I just have to
4184
03:19:05,724 --> 03:19:08,493
sculpt everything
myself, pretty much.
4185
03:19:08,516 --> 03:19:10,102
And fast.
4186
03:19:14,379 --> 03:19:16,700
Making things for
"Bride of Re-Animator",
4187
03:19:16,724 --> 03:19:19,976
we didn't have enough
time to shoot everything
4188
03:19:20,000 --> 03:19:21,147
that we wanted to do.
4189
03:19:21,172 --> 03:19:23,354
It was very rushed.
4190
03:19:23,379 --> 03:19:26,251
Herbert West, he does
a bunch of experiments,
4191
03:19:26,274 --> 03:19:30,000
so I can do so many
different idea.
4192
03:19:34,826 --> 03:19:38,561
The design comes in as
outrageous as possible.
4193
03:19:38,585 --> 03:19:42,861
You stupid biped!
4194
03:19:44,137 --> 03:19:49,112
Vietnam veteran,
Noble Craig, is an actor
4195
03:19:49,137 --> 03:19:51,147
who is amputee.
4196
03:19:51,172 --> 03:19:54,595
I've been working with him
since "Poltergeist II".
4197
03:19:54,620 --> 03:19:58,147
The vomit creature,
crawl across the room,
4198
03:19:58,172 --> 03:20:00,516
that is Craig.
4199
03:20:05,343 --> 03:20:07,493
And then "Big Trouble
in Little China",
4200
03:20:07,516 --> 03:20:11,147
sewer creature, the creature
comes out from a tunnel,
4201
03:20:11,172 --> 03:20:13,595
eats the guy, and then
comes back, right?
4202
03:20:13,620 --> 03:20:15,182
That's it.
4203
03:20:15,206 --> 03:20:17,769
It took three months to make it.
4204
03:20:17,792 --> 03:20:20,906
That too, Noble
Craig is inside there
4205
03:20:20,931 --> 03:20:22,493
in special makeup effects.
4206
03:20:22,516 --> 03:20:26,527
I think that is one of
the evolutional happenings
4207
03:20:26,550 --> 03:20:29,595
happened in film industry.
4208
03:20:29,620 --> 03:20:34,620
When I was in Japan, first
I call myself Toshusi Mad,
4209
03:20:35,861 --> 03:20:37,595
and then I wanted
to have something
4210
03:20:37,620 --> 03:20:39,424
that is really crazy.
4211
03:20:39,448 --> 03:20:43,906
Mad is something that is
much more crazier than crazy,
4212
03:20:43,931 --> 03:20:45,595
I think, you know what I mean?
4213
03:20:45,620 --> 03:20:46,655
More power with it.
4214
03:20:47,861 --> 03:20:50,941
And then I remember
the blues singer
4215
03:20:50,965 --> 03:20:53,826
named Screaming Jay Hawkins.
4216
03:20:54,757 --> 03:20:59,112
If I use Screaming Mad George.
4217
03:20:59,137 --> 03:21:00,837
That sounds good.
4218
03:21:00,861 --> 03:21:04,067
Screaming Mad George
is my artist name.
4219
03:21:23,448 --> 03:21:26,078
"Witchboard".
4220
03:21:26,102 --> 03:21:28,251
"Witchboard" is the
reason I will not allow
4221
03:21:28,274 --> 03:21:30,665
a Ouija board in my
house to this day.
4222
03:21:30,689 --> 03:21:32,550
Don't come into my house
with a Ouija board.
4223
03:21:36,102 --> 03:21:37,734
All I ever wanted
to do was figure out
4224
03:21:37,757 --> 03:21:38,837
where I could get a Ouija board.
4225
03:21:38,861 --> 03:21:40,595
I wanna try this thing out.
4226
03:21:40,620 --> 03:21:41,620
Can you hear me?
4227
03:21:44,826 --> 03:21:48,493
That movie came out
right at the right time
4228
03:21:48,516 --> 03:21:49,689
for my puberty.
4229
03:21:50,861 --> 03:21:55,516
Tawny Kitaen, the
quintessential wow.
4230
03:21:56,689 --> 03:21:59,493
I had already seen her
in "Bachelor Party".
4231
03:21:59,516 --> 03:22:01,837
I'd seen her in all the
fucking Whitesnake videos
4232
03:22:01,861 --> 03:22:02,861
at that point.
4233
03:22:03,896 --> 03:22:06,354
♪ Well here I go
again on my own ♪
4234
03:22:06,379 --> 03:22:08,941
Doing flips on the cars,
and splits and things.
4235
03:22:08,965 --> 03:22:11,078
It was very impressive.
4236
03:22:11,102 --> 03:22:12,620
I'd really like to try this.
4237
03:22:16,240 --> 03:22:18,217
"Witchboard" is about somebody
4238
03:22:18,240 --> 03:22:21,424
who becomes obsessed
with the Ouija board.
4239
03:22:21,448 --> 03:22:23,769
David, do you remember me?
4240
03:22:23,792 --> 03:22:28,792
A Ouija board that then
opens the portal of hell
4241
03:22:29,379 --> 03:22:30,458
to a demon.
4242
03:22:30,481 --> 03:22:32,067
Ooh, that's a little spooky.
4243
03:22:32,965 --> 03:22:33,770
It's a little stupid.
4244
03:22:33,793 --> 03:22:35,424
It's a lot stupid.
4245
03:22:35,448 --> 03:22:38,871
The visceral horror and
gore that starts to happen
4246
03:22:38,896 --> 03:22:42,112
once the horror is
unleashed in "Witchboard".
4247
03:22:42,137 --> 03:22:43,976
It really scared
the crap out of me
4248
03:22:44,000 --> 03:22:45,448
in a really fun way.
4249
03:22:48,206 --> 03:22:49,527
It's the very first
film that we got
4250
03:22:49,550 --> 03:22:50,769
from Kevin Tenney.
4251
03:22:50,792 --> 03:22:53,700
This was a precursor to
"Night of the Demons".
4252
03:22:53,724 --> 03:22:55,700
He starts to frighten
and terrorize her,
4253
03:22:55,724 --> 03:22:57,976
gradually breaking
down her resistance.
4254
03:22:58,000 --> 03:23:00,630
And once that's done,
he's able to possess her.
4255
03:23:00,655 --> 03:23:03,595
The thing that Kevin
Tenney brought to the table
4256
03:23:03,620 --> 03:23:06,595
that set him apart from other
directors I've worked with
4257
03:23:06,620 --> 03:23:10,516
was his sense of humor and
his passion for horror.
4258
03:23:13,689 --> 03:23:15,319
Ouija board was copyrighted
4259
03:23:15,343 --> 03:23:17,493
so that he couldn't call
his movie "Ouija Board",
4260
03:23:17,516 --> 03:23:19,251
so he changed it
to "Witchboard".
4261
03:23:19,274 --> 03:23:21,976
It's pronounced
Ouija, not Ouij-i.
4262
03:23:22,000 --> 03:23:24,976
It comes from the French
and German words for yes.
4263
03:23:25,000 --> 03:23:26,251
Oui and ja.
4264
03:23:26,274 --> 03:23:27,802
Ouija.
4265
03:23:27,826 --> 03:23:30,182
It was great working with
the late great Tawny Kitaen.
4266
03:23:30,206 --> 03:23:31,941
You must be Linda.
4267
03:23:31,965 --> 03:23:33,527
She was fun to act with.
4268
03:23:33,550 --> 03:23:35,182
She had a little brown dog
4269
03:23:35,206 --> 03:23:37,147
that she brought on
the set all the time.
4270
03:23:37,172 --> 03:23:38,906
Jim, this is Zarabeth.
4271
03:23:38,931 --> 03:23:41,067
The best medium in
northern California.
4272
03:23:42,000 --> 03:23:44,043
When we did that seance scene,
4273
03:23:44,067 --> 03:23:45,769
every time they'd say action,
4274
03:23:45,792 --> 03:23:48,319
and I'd go like, whoo.
4275
03:23:48,343 --> 03:23:50,217
Pretend like the
boy was in my body.
4276
03:23:50,240 --> 03:23:52,769
I'd look over at her and
she'd be like, ,
4277
03:23:52,792 --> 03:23:56,251
she'd start laughing, and
then we all start laughing.
4278
03:23:56,274 --> 03:23:58,286
And nobody could ever
pull it together.
4279
03:23:58,309 --> 03:24:00,561
And I was like, I can't do this!
4280
03:24:00,585 --> 03:24:02,043
It was so goofy.
4281
03:24:02,067 --> 03:24:05,112
But with the scary music,
when we finally got a take,
4282
03:24:05,137 --> 03:24:07,527
it worked, you know
they put a weird effect
4283
03:24:07,550 --> 03:24:09,319
on my voice or
something like that.
4284
03:24:09,343 --> 03:24:11,172
She hurt me.
4285
03:24:12,448 --> 03:24:14,424
She won't talk to me anymore.
4286
03:24:14,448 --> 03:24:17,792
Zarabeth to me is definitely
a highlight of "Witchboard".
4287
03:24:19,033 --> 03:24:22,078
Just some more psychic humor.
4288
03:24:22,102 --> 03:24:23,906
Come on Brandy, let's
hit the musky dusk.
4289
03:24:23,931 --> 03:24:26,689
Her death is so gnarly, too.
4290
03:24:31,102 --> 03:24:33,388
They'd say action,
and then I'd get to
4291
03:24:33,413 --> 03:24:36,251
pretend like I land
on the sundial,
4292
03:24:36,274 --> 03:24:39,388
and I had got one of those
blood pills in my mouth,
4293
03:24:39,413 --> 03:24:43,343
and I did get to go like,
4294
03:24:44,861 --> 03:24:47,595
and like split out blood,
4295
03:24:47,620 --> 03:24:49,595
which I adored.
4296
03:24:49,620 --> 03:24:53,976
They had taped the top
of the sundial to my back
4297
03:24:54,000 --> 03:24:58,286
so I ran down the set,
4298
03:24:58,309 --> 03:25:00,871
pretending like I was a shark.
4299
03:25:00,896 --> 03:25:02,379
I see danger ahead.
4300
03:25:04,102 --> 03:25:05,112
For Linda?
4301
03:25:05,137 --> 03:25:06,493
For you.
4302
03:25:06,516 --> 03:25:07,734
If you miss my house.
4303
03:25:07,757 --> 03:25:12,137
On "Witchboard", I had
so much fun laughing.
4304
03:25:13,620 --> 03:25:17,595
It's coming up on the right!
4305
03:25:17,620 --> 03:25:18,976
A little more
psychic humor, huh?
4306
03:25:19,000 --> 03:25:22,379
With tears and
belly laughs everyday.
4307
03:25:27,448 --> 03:25:28,458
Tawny Kitaen.
4308
03:25:28,481 --> 03:25:30,802
When I saw that she died,
4309
03:25:30,826 --> 03:25:32,976
I felt loss, and sadness.
4310
03:25:33,000 --> 03:25:35,837
She was a blast, and
funny, and smart,
4311
03:25:35,861 --> 03:25:39,043
and lovely, and it's
weird for me to even think
4312
03:25:39,067 --> 03:25:40,319
that she's not around.
4313
03:25:40,343 --> 03:25:42,067
It's bizarre to me.
4314
03:25:47,896 --> 03:25:51,217
"Blood Rage", also
known as "Slasher",
4315
03:25:51,240 --> 03:25:54,078
and "Nightmare at Shadow Woods".
4316
03:25:54,102 --> 03:25:55,630
I mean it's like,
make up your minds,
4317
03:25:55,655 --> 03:25:56,655
will you people?
4318
03:25:58,102 --> 03:26:00,837
There's so few
Thanksgiving horror movies,
4319
03:26:00,861 --> 03:26:04,043
that I feel like this has
kind of had a resurgence
4320
03:26:04,067 --> 03:26:06,769
in recent years,
because everybody wants
4321
03:26:06,792 --> 03:26:09,413
a horror movie to
watch on the holidays.
4322
03:26:15,448 --> 03:26:18,516
Twin boys, one crazy, one not.
4323
03:26:19,413 --> 03:26:20,458
There's a mix-up.
4324
03:26:20,481 --> 03:26:22,217
One gets put in an asylum.
4325
03:26:22,240 --> 03:26:23,734
One's out loose.
4326
03:26:23,757 --> 03:26:24,837
Nobody in the movie knows.
4327
03:26:24,861 --> 03:26:27,043
Everyone in the audience knows.
4328
03:26:27,067 --> 03:26:28,251
Here's to the new family.
4329
03:26:28,274 --> 03:26:30,147
"Blood Rage" is about
a Thanksgiving meal
4330
03:26:30,172 --> 03:26:33,424
that just goes completely
awash in blood.
4331
03:26:33,448 --> 03:26:35,112
I'm not a fan of horror.
4332
03:26:35,137 --> 03:26:36,941
When I got "Blood
Rage", it was a new
4333
03:26:36,965 --> 03:26:38,826
genre for me completely.
4334
03:26:40,309 --> 03:26:43,286
I went to the video store, and
went to the horror section.
4335
03:26:43,309 --> 03:26:46,078
I literally had to go
and investigate it.
4336
03:26:46,102 --> 03:26:49,010
What, are you gonna try
and shoot me again, Todd?
4337
03:26:49,033 --> 03:26:51,319
It's twins.
4338
03:26:51,343 --> 03:26:52,252
You know?
4339
03:26:52,275 --> 03:26:53,734
So I'm going, are they kidding?
4340
03:26:53,757 --> 03:26:55,286
Do they know what they're
getting involved with?
4341
03:26:55,309 --> 03:26:57,802
That's a chore for most
people in any film,
4342
03:26:57,826 --> 03:26:59,689
let alone on a low budget.
4343
03:27:01,067 --> 03:27:04,043
I broke it down, Stanislavski,
building a character.
4344
03:27:04,067 --> 03:27:06,388
The psychopath, you know?
4345
03:27:06,413 --> 03:27:10,906
And then the other guy was
closer to what I usually played,
4346
03:27:10,931 --> 03:27:12,976
the sort of hate
yourself, low esteem,
4347
03:27:13,000 --> 03:27:14,458
I'd played a couple
of prisoners,
4348
03:27:14,481 --> 03:27:16,906
and stuff like that,
and mixed up kids.
4349
03:27:16,931 --> 03:27:17,931
Very intense.
4350
03:27:24,689 --> 03:27:25,976
"Blood Rage" operates in a world
4351
03:27:26,000 --> 03:27:30,458
where it's the family
Thanksgiving and murder.
4352
03:27:30,481 --> 03:27:31,630
Looks like you're
gonna get a chance
4353
03:27:31,655 --> 03:27:33,424
to meet the rest of the family.
4354
03:27:33,448 --> 03:27:35,724
My psychotic brother
just escaped.
4355
03:27:36,965 --> 03:27:38,527
It's the turkey
and killing people.
4356
03:27:38,550 --> 03:27:40,010
It's rich.
4357
03:27:40,033 --> 03:27:44,700
I'd say that this big
bird is ready for carving.
4358
03:27:44,724 --> 03:27:47,493
Why does this make me so crazy?
4359
03:27:47,516 --> 03:27:49,561
Time to eat, let's all sit down.
4360
03:27:49,585 --> 03:27:51,043
It's time for dinner.
4361
03:27:51,067 --> 03:27:52,757
Look what the cat brought in!
4362
03:27:59,448 --> 03:28:03,251
Louise Lasser gives
110% in that movie.
4363
03:28:03,274 --> 03:28:04,976
She's incredible.
4364
03:28:05,000 --> 03:28:07,976
She was, god bless
her, a force of nature.
4365
03:28:08,000 --> 03:28:10,424
Mary Hartman was
seminal TV, man.
4366
03:28:10,448 --> 03:28:12,112
That was hot stuff.
4367
03:28:12,137 --> 03:28:14,941
You know, murder with
no reason, or no motive,
4368
03:28:14,965 --> 03:28:17,182
I mean really senseless,
when you think about it.
4369
03:28:17,206 --> 03:28:19,561
Do you think this is too
spicy, or not spicy enough?
4370
03:28:19,585 --> 03:28:21,837
She set the tone
for "Nightmare Mom".
4371
03:28:21,861 --> 03:28:24,112
She creates the
world for the film
4372
03:28:24,137 --> 03:28:25,137
Oh please.
4373
03:28:27,826 --> 03:28:29,965
Please don't do this to me.
4374
03:28:31,343 --> 03:28:33,217
She had that
voice, she would just
4375
03:28:33,240 --> 03:28:35,941
get into these states.
4376
03:28:35,965 --> 03:28:38,010
She was transformed.
4377
03:28:38,033 --> 03:28:40,112
Come give mommy a kiss.
4378
03:28:40,137 --> 03:28:42,112
That scene around
the refrigerator?
4379
03:28:42,137 --> 03:28:43,354
I mean, come on.
4380
03:28:43,379 --> 03:28:45,871
This is a woman who's
freaking out over food.
4381
03:28:45,896 --> 03:28:48,043
And it's so over the top.
4382
03:28:48,067 --> 03:28:50,527
I've been calling
you and calling you!
4383
03:28:50,550 --> 03:28:53,286
Why didn't you answer the phone?
4384
03:28:53,309 --> 03:28:54,458
Todd's here!
4385
03:28:54,481 --> 03:28:56,078
And he's killing again!
4386
03:28:56,102 --> 03:28:57,079
She was bringing it.
4387
03:28:57,103 --> 03:28:58,837
She got an applause on the set,
4388
03:28:58,861 --> 03:29:01,000
and I've only been
around that a few times.
4389
03:29:05,000 --> 03:29:06,182
It's bananas.
4390
03:29:06,206 --> 03:29:08,871
It's a movie where
no one in the movie
4391
03:29:08,896 --> 03:29:11,182
is making the same movie as
anyone else in the movie.
4392
03:29:11,206 --> 03:29:13,458
They're all singing
in their own key,
4393
03:29:13,481 --> 03:29:14,906
and the movie's all
the better for it.
4394
03:29:14,931 --> 03:29:16,620
It's unhinged, it's delightful.
4395
03:29:22,655 --> 03:29:24,769
Shooting a melodrama
like "Blood Rage"
4396
03:29:24,792 --> 03:29:26,319
is a whole different thing.
4397
03:29:26,343 --> 03:29:28,388
You can tear up the furniture.
4398
03:29:28,413 --> 03:29:33,206
You can do crazy stuff you
just don't normally get to do.
4399
03:29:37,896 --> 03:29:39,182
It's horror, low budget horror.
4400
03:29:39,206 --> 03:29:40,906
But this had a building audience
4401
03:29:40,931 --> 03:29:42,700
and a genre that had legs.
4402
03:29:42,724 --> 03:29:43,837
It was like heavy metal, man.
4403
03:29:43,861 --> 03:29:45,792
This ain't going away.
4404
03:29:48,448 --> 03:29:49,078
This is gonna be a
decades long thing.
4405
03:29:49,102 --> 03:29:50,102
Get used to it.
4406
03:29:51,000 --> 03:29:52,620
It's not cranberry sauce, Artie.
4407
03:29:55,102 --> 03:29:57,102
It's not cranberry sauce.
4408
03:30:03,033 --> 03:30:06,724
They have opened "The Gate".
4409
03:30:07,620 --> 03:30:09,458
Pray it's not too late.
4410
03:30:09,481 --> 03:30:11,630
One of the greatest
things about "The Gate"
4411
03:30:11,655 --> 03:30:13,561
is that for a lot of
kids at that time,
4412
03:30:13,585 --> 03:30:16,388
it became their
gateway horror movie,
4413
03:30:16,413 --> 03:30:18,769
because it felt
like a kids movie
4414
03:30:18,792 --> 03:30:22,182
that didn't play by
the kids movies rules.
4415
03:30:22,206 --> 03:30:23,148
Already filled it in.
4416
03:30:23,173 --> 03:30:25,043
Whoa, whoa!
4417
03:30:25,067 --> 03:30:26,871
"The Gate" is
about a group of kids
4418
03:30:26,896 --> 03:30:28,527
that dig a hole
in their backyard,
4419
03:30:28,550 --> 03:30:30,757
and find demons.
4420
03:30:31,965 --> 03:30:33,010
Hi.
4421
03:30:33,033 --> 03:30:34,033
Hey.
4422
03:30:38,343 --> 03:30:40,010
It's a PG-13 horror film.
4423
03:30:40,033 --> 03:30:41,595
I always saw it as a film
4424
03:30:41,620 --> 03:30:43,595
that the whole
family could watch,
4425
03:30:43,620 --> 03:30:46,665
that adults could
be sort of nostalgic
4426
03:30:46,689 --> 03:30:49,976
about growing up, and kids
could find an adventure in it.
4427
03:30:50,000 --> 03:30:51,182
Sacrifices.
4428
03:30:51,206 --> 03:30:53,078
We had so much fun
making that movie,
4429
03:30:53,102 --> 03:30:54,906
even though it was
very difficult.
4430
03:30:54,931 --> 03:30:56,147
Money was short.
4431
03:30:56,172 --> 03:30:58,251
All those people put
their heart into it.
4432
03:30:58,274 --> 03:31:01,620
The actors, the writers,
the special effects people.
4433
03:31:06,240 --> 03:31:09,976
We were able to pull the
most out of everybody.
4434
03:31:10,000 --> 03:31:12,585
The album, backwards!
4435
03:31:13,861 --> 03:31:15,700
Tells you how to close the gate.
4436
03:31:15,724 --> 03:31:19,078
It's like the first heavy
metal horror movie for kids.
4437
03:31:19,102 --> 03:31:20,630
They got their
lyrics from this thing
4438
03:31:20,655 --> 03:31:21,724
called the Dark Book.
4439
03:31:22,655 --> 03:31:24,286
It's like the Bible for demons.
4440
03:31:24,309 --> 03:31:25,595
So you have somebody like Tibor,
4441
03:31:25,620 --> 03:31:27,561
who had a background working
4442
03:31:27,585 --> 03:31:29,319
in heavy metal music videos
4443
03:31:29,343 --> 03:31:32,043
coming in and being
able to infuse that
4444
03:31:32,067 --> 03:31:35,413
into this kids movie
is pretty astounding.
4445
03:31:37,585 --> 03:31:40,424
It's always much
scarier when horror
4446
03:31:40,448 --> 03:31:43,274
comes into the normal world.
4447
03:31:45,343 --> 03:31:47,354
Stephen Dorff was
just so cool to me
4448
03:31:47,379 --> 03:31:48,769
when I was a kid.
4449
03:31:48,792 --> 03:31:51,112
It seemed like something
that could happen to me.
4450
03:31:51,137 --> 03:31:52,561
I could look down in my backyard
4451
03:31:52,585 --> 03:31:54,388
and I was always sure
there was the potential
4452
03:31:54,413 --> 03:31:56,965
for a portal, monsters.
4453
03:32:02,481 --> 03:32:04,802
I always feel kids
can make great actors
4454
03:32:04,826 --> 03:32:08,010
if you can key into them,
you treat them like adults.
4455
03:32:08,033 --> 03:32:09,493
When they're in the
right frame of mind,
4456
03:32:09,516 --> 03:32:10,976
you can do amazing things,
4457
03:32:11,000 --> 03:32:12,871
and get very real performances.
4458
03:32:12,896 --> 03:32:14,354
We have to close the gate.
4459
03:32:14,379 --> 03:32:16,217
We have to go to the
hole and do it right.
4460
03:32:16,240 --> 03:32:18,665
You mean you guys were
serious about that demon stuff?
4461
03:32:18,689 --> 03:32:20,595
The main theme
of "The Gate" to me
4462
03:32:20,620 --> 03:32:24,734
is sibling relationships
and friendship
4463
03:32:24,757 --> 03:32:27,630
to overcome insurmountable odds.
4464
03:32:27,655 --> 03:32:29,172
You need your friends.
4465
03:32:32,826 --> 03:32:34,527
I think of all the
effects that they were
4466
03:32:34,550 --> 03:32:37,379
able to do in that
movie courtesy of
Randall William Cook.
4467
03:32:42,448 --> 03:32:43,700
I was already reading Fangoria
4468
03:32:43,724 --> 03:32:45,561
and I was into the
effect part of it,
4469
03:32:45,585 --> 03:32:47,837
like the technical part
of horror filmmaking.
4470
03:32:47,861 --> 03:32:50,734
I knew that we would have to
use an encyclopedia of effects.
4471
03:32:50,757 --> 03:32:53,147
There was no one solution
to all that stuff.
4472
03:32:53,172 --> 03:32:55,837
And thank goodness
that Randy was so good
4473
03:32:55,861 --> 03:32:57,861
at all of those things.
4474
03:33:01,792 --> 03:33:03,458
When the workman falls over
and breaks into the minions,
4475
03:33:03,481 --> 03:33:06,906
that to me is like a
seminal important moment
4476
03:33:06,931 --> 03:33:08,665
in the movie where you go wow.
4477
03:33:08,689 --> 03:33:10,516
Even I go wow.
4478
03:33:13,516 --> 03:33:16,941
But it is still cool as
hell to watch that sequence,
4479
03:33:16,965 --> 03:33:18,976
and I wish we got more movies
4480
03:33:19,000 --> 03:33:20,802
that tried to do stuff
like that more these days.
4481
03:33:20,826 --> 03:33:23,217
Like, I don't care if
it looks a little dated.
4482
03:33:23,240 --> 03:33:24,148
I don't.
4483
03:33:24,173 --> 03:33:25,413
Because it's still magic to me.
4484
03:33:26,689 --> 03:33:28,630
It's like a bespoke movie.
4485
03:33:28,655 --> 03:33:30,043
It's handmade.
4486
03:33:30,067 --> 03:33:31,630
It's kind of rough around
the edges that way.
4487
03:33:31,655 --> 03:33:33,595
That's what draws people to it.
4488
03:33:33,620 --> 03:33:35,620
They can see the love
that went into it.
4489
03:33:46,481 --> 03:33:48,354
"Rock 'n' Roll
Nightmare" is the story
4490
03:33:48,379 --> 03:33:52,561
of a band called The
Tritons, led by Thor,
4491
03:33:52,585 --> 03:33:56,700
who was a very popular
wrestler, rock and roller.
4492
03:33:56,724 --> 03:33:59,010
He was very popular
up in Canada.
4493
03:33:59,033 --> 03:34:03,251
So this band comes to
this tiny little farmhouse
4494
03:34:03,274 --> 03:34:05,112
on the outskirts of Toronto
4495
03:34:05,137 --> 03:34:07,837
to record their new album.
4496
03:34:07,861 --> 03:34:09,354
It's kind of like a vacation.
4497
03:34:09,379 --> 03:34:11,630
I like it.
4498
03:34:11,655 --> 03:34:12,458
You would.
4499
03:34:12,481 --> 03:34:13,287
Come on you two.
4500
03:34:13,310 --> 03:34:14,561
Don't start.
4501
03:34:14,585 --> 03:34:15,941
It turns out that
they are in a house
4502
03:34:15,965 --> 03:34:18,931
that had been possessed.
4503
03:34:21,965 --> 03:34:24,388
And one by one, they
start being killed off
4504
03:34:24,413 --> 03:34:25,931
by these demos.
4505
03:34:30,448 --> 03:34:31,493
Kind of this quirky movie
4506
03:34:31,516 --> 03:34:33,286
directed by John Fasano.
4507
03:34:33,309 --> 03:34:34,906
It's hard to call
these things demons.
4508
03:34:34,931 --> 03:34:35,965
They're puppets.
4509
03:34:37,550 --> 03:34:38,630
I can destroy and destruct-
4510
03:34:40,172 --> 03:34:43,976
Demons that are rejects
from Fraggle Rock.
4511
03:34:44,000 --> 03:34:46,871
We talked so much
about the glorious age
4512
03:34:46,896 --> 03:34:48,871
of practical effects of the 80s,
4513
03:34:48,896 --> 03:34:52,655
but sometimes, they
were not so glorious.
4514
03:34:58,102 --> 03:34:59,734
My favorite monster effect
4515
03:34:59,757 --> 03:35:02,595
in "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare"
is one that I did.
4516
03:35:02,620 --> 03:35:03,931
The chicken monster.
4517
03:35:06,240 --> 03:35:08,424
That was a really fun
project to work on.
4518
03:35:08,448 --> 03:35:10,413
And then I got to puppeteer it.
4519
03:35:14,792 --> 03:35:17,112
Jon Thor is a sweetheart.
4520
03:35:17,137 --> 03:35:18,527
He's always so positive.
4521
03:35:18,550 --> 03:35:20,251
He was up for anything.
4522
03:35:20,274 --> 03:35:22,941
♪ You get me any day
4523
03:35:22,965 --> 03:35:24,147
♪ Energy
4524
03:35:24,172 --> 03:35:26,906
It was November,
and we had that wind
4525
03:35:26,931 --> 03:35:28,665
coming off of Lake Ontario,
4526
03:35:28,689 --> 03:35:30,941
hitting you like a brick wall.
4527
03:35:30,965 --> 03:35:32,595
This house that we
were shooting in,
4528
03:35:32,620 --> 03:35:35,700
which had no electricity,
had no hot water,
4529
03:35:35,724 --> 03:35:38,976
and they're in a shower,
buck naked in this shower,
4530
03:35:39,000 --> 03:35:41,630
freezing to death.
4531
03:35:41,655 --> 03:35:44,354
I mean, that water was ice cold.
4532
03:35:44,379 --> 03:35:47,516
But the ending is
not to be missed.
4533
03:35:50,757 --> 03:35:53,941
I walked onto set, and
I saw Jon standing there
4534
03:35:53,965 --> 03:35:57,630
in this little gold
speedo, and codpiece,
4535
03:35:57,655 --> 03:36:00,182
and this gold lame cape.
4536
03:36:00,206 --> 03:36:01,458
And at one point, I looked over,
4537
03:36:01,481 --> 03:36:03,802
and I could see his
cape was starting
4538
03:36:03,826 --> 03:36:05,941
to spark and catch fire.
4539
03:36:05,965 --> 03:36:07,458
Oh my god, that would have been
4540
03:36:07,481 --> 03:36:10,413
just the icing on
the cake for sure.
4541
03:36:12,620 --> 03:36:14,871
Of course, you gotta love
the big devil at the end.
4542
03:36:14,896 --> 03:36:17,000
It was a disaster.
4543
03:36:18,137 --> 03:36:19,388
Nice effect, Randy.
4544
03:36:19,413 --> 03:36:21,043
It weighed 50 pounds at least.
4545
03:36:21,067 --> 03:36:23,043
And it was so unwieldy.
4546
03:36:23,067 --> 03:36:24,861
It was just a mess.
4547
03:36:26,000 --> 03:36:27,561
But of course that's
the scene that everybody
4548
03:36:27,585 --> 03:36:30,665
loves the most in that movie,
because it's so outrageous.
4549
03:36:30,689 --> 03:36:32,826
Like you have to see
this to believe it.
4550
03:36:46,206 --> 03:36:48,424
"Jaws" follows in a
line of horror films
4551
03:36:48,448 --> 03:36:51,585
where nature is out to kill you.
4552
03:36:54,000 --> 03:36:57,319
"Jaws: The Revenge".
4553
03:36:57,343 --> 03:37:00,182
It's just the idea
that meeting a shark
4554
03:37:00,206 --> 03:37:01,837
face to face in the water
4555
03:37:01,861 --> 03:37:05,792
is more likely than finding
Jason Voorhees in the water.
4556
03:37:07,240 --> 03:37:08,976
The Jaws sequels were
never like the first movie,
4557
03:37:09,000 --> 03:37:10,837
and so anytime they
sequelize something,
4558
03:37:10,861 --> 03:37:12,976
it was like, oh god,
what are they gonna do?
4559
03:37:13,000 --> 03:37:15,769
Lorraine Gary,
who once again stars
4560
03:37:15,792 --> 03:37:18,112
as Chief Brody's
wife, now a widow,
4561
03:37:18,137 --> 03:37:20,286
she travels to the Bahamas,
4562
03:37:20,309 --> 03:37:22,078
and what do you know?
4563
03:37:22,102 --> 03:37:25,206
That goddam shark
is still after her.
4564
03:37:33,516 --> 03:37:36,147
And she's convinced
that the shark
4565
03:37:36,172 --> 03:37:38,147
is following her family,
4566
03:37:38,172 --> 03:37:41,043
and she seems to have
some telepathic link
4567
03:37:41,067 --> 03:37:42,585
with the shark.
4568
03:37:45,931 --> 03:37:48,620
It's such a far cry from
Spielberg's original.
4569
03:37:50,481 --> 03:37:53,286
Just like the idea of a
shark being a slasher movie
4570
03:37:53,309 --> 03:37:56,424
villain that's gonna
follow these people
4571
03:37:56,448 --> 03:37:59,769
from Amity Island
to the Bahamas.
4572
03:37:59,792 --> 03:38:02,527
It has a grudge against
the Brody family.
4573
03:38:02,550 --> 03:38:04,802
It's just absolutely ridiculous.
4574
03:38:04,826 --> 03:38:06,458
- Their family-
- What shark is this?
4575
03:38:06,481 --> 03:38:07,769
A friend of the other shark.
4576
03:38:07,792 --> 03:38:09,010
Is this like a cousin, a nephew?
4577
03:38:09,033 --> 03:38:09,977
You got it.
4578
03:38:10,001 --> 03:38:11,043
They just
4579
03:38:11,067 --> 03:38:12,906
put that movie
together, really quick.
4580
03:38:12,931 --> 03:38:14,837
They cast all of us
before they even made
4581
03:38:14,861 --> 03:38:17,112
the arrangements with
the special effects guys.
4582
03:38:17,137 --> 03:38:19,354
They kind of did them
almost at the last minute,
4583
03:38:19,379 --> 03:38:20,769
and they were like,
wait a minute.
4584
03:38:20,792 --> 03:38:23,561
We can't do this, what
you wrote in the script.
4585
03:38:23,585 --> 03:38:25,286
We can do something like this,
4586
03:38:25,309 --> 03:38:26,976
but we can't do that.
4587
03:38:27,000 --> 03:38:29,354
So they had to
rewrite the scripts.
4588
03:38:29,379 --> 03:38:30,837
I got a script that I thought
4589
03:38:30,861 --> 03:38:32,147
oh, this is a pretty
good script, you know?
4590
03:38:32,172 --> 03:38:33,665
I believe it, I play this guy.
4591
03:38:33,689 --> 03:38:35,217
Everything this guy
does makes sense.
4592
03:38:35,240 --> 03:38:36,665
This is not gonna be stupid.
4593
03:38:36,689 --> 03:38:38,112
It's gonna be great.
4594
03:38:38,137 --> 03:38:39,837
About three days before
we started shooting,
4595
03:38:39,861 --> 03:38:41,458
I get a new script
4596
03:38:41,481 --> 03:38:43,665
that accommodates all
the technical stuff
4597
03:38:43,689 --> 03:38:45,837
that can be done.
4598
03:38:45,861 --> 03:38:48,493
For me, was like, oh god.
4599
03:38:48,516 --> 03:38:50,458
I couldn't make sense of it,
4600
03:38:50,481 --> 03:38:52,240
so I was pissed
off all the time.
4601
03:38:53,655 --> 03:38:56,286
We were like that, you just
try not to make it unbelievable
4602
03:38:56,309 --> 03:38:58,309
and it's hard.
4603
03:39:03,448 --> 03:39:06,240
I didn't know sharks
sound like that.
4604
03:39:08,172 --> 03:39:09,448
Jesus Christ!
4605
03:39:12,655 --> 03:39:14,802
What's great about
it is Christmas.
4606
03:39:14,826 --> 03:39:16,354
Who saw that coming?
4607
03:39:16,379 --> 03:39:19,665
Like, "Jaws 4: The
Revenge", Christmas Jaws.
4608
03:39:19,689 --> 03:39:21,665
♪ The first noel
4609
03:39:21,689 --> 03:39:23,354
♪ The angels
4610
03:39:23,379 --> 03:39:24,976
We blew through
most of the acting
4611
03:39:25,000 --> 03:39:27,493
in three weeks in that movie.
4612
03:39:27,516 --> 03:39:29,458
I was on that movie
for five months.
4613
03:39:29,481 --> 03:39:32,527
So there was a lot of
sitting out in the ocean.
4614
03:39:32,550 --> 03:39:35,734
We spent months
sitting doing nothing
4615
03:39:35,757 --> 03:39:37,240
because the shark didn't work.
4616
03:39:38,413 --> 03:39:39,595
We were shooting this one scene,
4617
03:39:39,620 --> 03:39:41,769
and it was in a little,
little tiny rowboat.
4618
03:39:41,792 --> 03:39:43,251
The whole boat goes down.
4619
03:39:43,274 --> 03:39:45,906
The battery pack that
powers the camera
4620
03:39:45,931 --> 03:39:48,871
is encased in plastic,
but it might leak.
4621
03:39:48,896 --> 03:39:51,976
So as soon as that
becomes submerged,
4622
03:39:52,000 --> 03:39:54,976
this hand grabs me by the shirt
4623
03:39:55,000 --> 03:39:57,182
with one hand, yanks
me out of the boat.
4624
03:39:57,206 --> 03:39:58,113
It was Michael Caine.
4625
03:39:58,138 --> 03:40:00,354
Get the fuck out of that boat!
4626
03:40:00,379 --> 03:40:01,734
I mean, I don't know that I
would have been electrocuted,
4627
03:40:01,757 --> 03:40:03,527
but that's what he was thinking.
4628
03:40:03,550 --> 03:40:05,319
So he just acted like that.
4629
03:40:05,343 --> 03:40:07,078
Hang onto your socks, lads.
4630
03:40:07,102 --> 03:40:09,757
Michael Caine saved my life.
4631
03:40:10,965 --> 03:40:14,861
Oh shit!
4632
03:40:22,516 --> 03:40:24,424
Even if you kill them,
4633
03:40:24,448 --> 03:40:26,837
they're still deadly.
4634
03:40:26,861 --> 03:40:27,861
"Creepozoids".
4635
03:40:28,655 --> 03:40:29,665
"Creepozoids".
4636
03:40:29,689 --> 03:40:31,802
Fun movie, little TNA
4637
03:40:31,826 --> 03:40:33,941
with a wonderful
director, David DeCoteau,
4638
03:40:33,965 --> 03:40:36,516
who remains one of
my closest friends.
4639
03:40:41,379 --> 03:40:46,274
"Creepozoids" is a very,
very, very low budget alien.
4640
03:40:49,309 --> 03:40:51,734
It was really fun,
because we did it in,
4641
03:40:51,757 --> 03:40:54,976
which then, was really
quick, seven days.
4642
03:40:55,000 --> 03:40:57,458
This place may not have all
the comforts of civilization.
4643
03:40:57,481 --> 03:40:59,388
Civilization doesn't
have all the comforts
4644
03:40:59,413 --> 03:41:01,595
of civilization anymore.
4645
03:41:01,620 --> 03:41:02,528
That's just my point.
4646
03:41:02,551 --> 03:41:05,147
There's this horrible thing
4647
03:41:05,172 --> 03:41:07,941
out after us that was
not from this earth,
4648
03:41:07,965 --> 03:41:10,102
and it's killing us one by one.
4649
03:41:17,965 --> 03:41:21,354
When you are doing
low budget things,
4650
03:41:21,379 --> 03:41:24,217
the monsters are
usually very fragile.
4651
03:41:24,240 --> 03:41:26,976
You had to be very
careful of these monsters.
4652
03:41:27,000 --> 03:41:30,630
So you're battling,
but holding back too,
4653
03:41:30,655 --> 03:41:32,448
because you could break them.
4654
03:41:37,448 --> 03:41:39,217
My mom came to set,
4655
03:41:39,240 --> 03:41:41,493
and both of us are
afraid of rats.
4656
03:41:41,516 --> 03:41:42,595
So what do they have?
4657
03:41:42,620 --> 03:41:45,379
These huge rats.
4658
03:41:52,757 --> 03:41:54,630
It didn't look bad,
that baby mutant,
4659
03:41:54,655 --> 03:41:56,689
but it was kind of silly.
4660
03:41:59,689 --> 03:42:03,043
It was a fun adventure,
because that was the first time
4661
03:42:03,067 --> 03:42:06,871
I really got to fight,
and be like, no makeup,
4662
03:42:06,896 --> 03:42:08,516
and a soldier.
4663
03:42:10,000 --> 03:42:14,043
I did, in "Creepozoids",
hae to battle a stuntperson,
4664
03:42:14,067 --> 03:42:16,493
which was interesting,
because they go all out
4665
03:42:16,516 --> 03:42:18,043
I'm like oh, I'm
gonna get killed.
4666
03:42:18,067 --> 03:42:19,585
I'm gonna get hurt.
4667
03:42:22,481 --> 03:42:25,010
Linnea and I go
back to a movie I made
4668
03:42:25,033 --> 03:42:26,906
1000 years before that,
which is hard to believe,
4669
03:42:26,931 --> 03:42:28,976
called "Fairytales",
and before that,
4670
03:42:29,000 --> 03:42:31,112
a movie called "Auditions".
4671
03:42:31,137 --> 03:42:32,388
It became apparent that most
4672
03:42:32,413 --> 03:42:34,976
of the female applicants
were non-professionals.
4673
03:42:35,000 --> 03:42:37,319
The whole idea was
they would come in,
4674
03:42:37,343 --> 03:42:39,976
sign a release, get
paid I think $10,
4675
03:42:40,000 --> 03:42:42,354
because we made it clear
that their audition
4676
03:42:42,379 --> 03:42:44,043
was gonna be used in the movie.
4677
03:42:44,067 --> 03:42:45,700
And the girls had to
take their tops off,
4678
03:42:45,724 --> 03:42:47,837
because they had
to be kind of sexy
4679
03:42:47,861 --> 03:42:49,217
fairy godmother, Cinderella.
4680
03:42:49,240 --> 03:42:50,906
I forget the story.
4681
03:42:50,931 --> 03:42:52,700
Many years later,
suddenly she's back
4682
03:42:52,724 --> 03:42:55,078
as a more mature
still very young woman
4683
03:42:55,102 --> 03:42:57,112
in the lead of "Creepozoids".
4684
03:42:57,137 --> 03:42:59,561
When I did "Creepozoids",
this one girl
4685
03:42:59,585 --> 03:43:02,112
would not do a topless scene.
4686
03:43:02,137 --> 03:43:03,595
She was such a prude, I thought.
4687
03:43:03,620 --> 03:43:06,147
And she was doing all
this backstory on herself,
4688
03:43:06,172 --> 03:43:08,493
like who is my mother,
who is my father.
4689
03:43:08,516 --> 03:43:11,493
On a $60,000 film.
4690
03:43:11,516 --> 03:43:13,251
But she went on to big things.
4691
03:43:13,274 --> 03:43:15,217
She became a porn star.
4692
03:43:15,240 --> 03:43:17,147
And I was like, wait a minute.
4693
03:43:17,172 --> 03:43:18,319
You wouldn't take off your top.
4694
03:43:18,343 --> 03:43:19,802
Now you're a porn star.
4695
03:43:19,826 --> 03:43:22,757
Let's not turn this into
a slumber party, okay?
4696
03:43:40,067 --> 03:43:42,182
"Zombie Nightmare" is
the story of a young man
4697
03:43:42,206 --> 03:43:45,217
who is murdered,
run over with a car
4698
03:43:45,240 --> 03:43:47,343
by these bunch of teenagers.
4699
03:43:50,481 --> 03:43:53,286
His mother goes
to a voodoo woman
4700
03:43:53,309 --> 03:43:54,734
to bring him back to life
4701
03:43:54,757 --> 03:43:57,595
to take revenge on these kids,
4702
03:43:57,620 --> 03:43:59,000
these spoiled brats.
4703
03:44:00,379 --> 03:44:01,355
See look, I told you.
4704
03:44:01,379 --> 03:44:02,585
There's nobody here.
4705
03:44:06,724 --> 03:44:09,871
At the same time,
there are two detectives
4706
03:44:09,896 --> 03:44:11,424
working to try to figure out
4707
03:44:11,448 --> 03:44:13,388
who's killing these kids.
4708
03:44:13,413 --> 03:44:15,319
Let's not have any
more high school kids
4709
03:44:15,343 --> 03:44:16,665
turn up dead.
4710
03:44:16,689 --> 03:44:17,871
Understand?
4711
03:44:17,896 --> 03:44:21,010
The script was
actually much better
4712
03:44:21,033 --> 03:44:24,941
than the final film, that
John Fasano wrote, by the way.
4713
03:44:24,965 --> 03:44:27,976
It was about racial
tensions, also.
4714
03:44:28,000 --> 03:44:28,907
Pretty young thing
has just walked
4715
03:44:28,932 --> 03:44:30,354
into the wrong neighborhood.
4716
03:44:30,379 --> 03:44:32,388
I do believe you're
right, Mr. Barnes.
4717
03:44:32,413 --> 03:44:33,595
Hey, don't be so uptight-
4718
03:44:33,620 --> 03:44:35,802
I went to Montreal
with Adam West.
4719
03:44:35,826 --> 03:44:37,147
It was surreal.
4720
03:44:37,172 --> 03:44:38,837
It was like, I
can't believe this.
4721
03:44:38,861 --> 03:44:41,527
I'm acting in a monster movie
4722
03:44:41,550 --> 03:44:43,354
with my childhood hero.
4723
03:44:43,379 --> 03:44:44,379
Come on, Frank.
4724
03:44:45,379 --> 03:44:46,826
I'll buy you a drink.
4725
03:44:47,757 --> 03:44:49,976
Jon Thor, he actually replaced
4726
03:44:50,000 --> 03:44:53,354
the original zombie actor
in "Zombie Nightmare".
4727
03:44:53,379 --> 03:44:56,976
We actually filmed the
end of the movie first
4728
03:44:57,000 --> 03:45:00,665
so the zombie was still played
by Peewee, the stuntman.
4729
03:45:00,689 --> 03:45:02,792
And he's big guy.
4730
03:45:07,792 --> 03:45:11,354
I'm the young detective,
and I arrive at this garage,
4731
03:45:11,379 --> 03:45:13,561
and I get there
just in time to see
4732
03:45:13,585 --> 03:45:15,769
the zombie kill Tia Carrere.
4733
03:45:15,792 --> 03:45:17,147
Right?
4734
03:45:17,172 --> 03:45:17,977
Police!
4735
03:45:18,001 --> 03:45:19,274
Hands in the air!
4736
03:45:21,550 --> 03:45:24,147
He knocks the gun aside,
4737
03:45:24,172 --> 03:45:25,388
and picks me up by the throat,
4738
03:45:25,413 --> 03:45:27,516
and then throws me onto a car.
4739
03:45:30,240 --> 03:45:31,595
It's my first movie.
4740
03:45:31,620 --> 03:45:32,871
I'm fighting a monster.
4741
03:45:32,896 --> 03:45:34,931
This is what I wanted
my whole life, right?
4742
03:45:36,274 --> 03:45:38,493
Mystery Science Theater
discovering "Zombie Nightmare"
4743
03:45:38,516 --> 03:45:42,595
definitely saved that movie
from disappearing forever.
4744
03:45:42,620 --> 03:45:44,388
It's called "Zombie Nightmare",
4745
03:45:44,413 --> 03:45:47,206
and it stars Adam West and...
4746
03:45:49,516 --> 03:45:52,217
There's a scene when one
of the zombie characters
4747
03:45:52,240 --> 03:45:54,182
is essentially dying.
4748
03:45:54,206 --> 03:45:56,700
His mouth is open, and
his eyes have sunken back,
4749
03:45:56,724 --> 03:45:59,906
and there's all of this
mist coming out of him.
4750
03:45:59,931 --> 03:46:01,769
At the time I thought, oh wow.
4751
03:46:01,792 --> 03:46:03,493
That really looks good.
4752
03:46:03,516 --> 03:46:06,837
Maybe this is gonna be good.
4753
03:46:06,861 --> 03:46:10,112
I had hope, anyway.
4754
03:46:10,137 --> 03:46:10,977
Kill me!
4755
03:46:11,001 --> 03:46:12,286
Kill me, Frank!
4756
03:46:12,309 --> 03:46:13,516
Frank!
4757
03:46:24,033 --> 03:46:26,319
"The Video Dead".
4758
03:46:26,343 --> 03:46:29,665
I love "Video Dead", because
it does something different
4759
03:46:29,689 --> 03:46:31,379
with the zombie genre.
4760
03:46:34,689 --> 03:46:38,734
We're given this weird
nightmarish suburbia,
4761
03:46:38,757 --> 03:46:41,112
where these zombies
are killing people,
4762
03:46:41,137 --> 03:46:44,319
but they all have a story.
4763
03:46:44,343 --> 03:46:45,561
They try to live.
4764
03:46:45,585 --> 03:46:47,000
Like, they try to adapt.
4765
03:46:50,379 --> 03:46:52,906
You have this haunted
TV that gets delivered.
4766
03:46:52,931 --> 03:46:54,458
And initially it
goes to a writer
4767
03:46:54,481 --> 03:46:55,630
in the opening of the film,
4768
03:46:55,655 --> 03:46:57,251
who's played by
Michael St. Michaels,
4769
03:46:57,274 --> 03:46:58,665
who would eventually
go on to become
4770
03:46:58,689 --> 03:46:59,965
the Greasy Strangler.
4771
03:47:01,343 --> 03:47:05,182
The TV somehow is a portal
for this zombie movie,
4772
03:47:05,206 --> 03:47:08,240
but also real zombies as well.
4773
03:47:09,826 --> 03:47:12,078
That's the first movie
I've ever died twice in,
4774
03:47:12,102 --> 03:47:13,481
and one time I killed me.
4775
03:47:14,896 --> 03:47:17,906
When I shot it, I was the
first 20 minutes of the film.
4776
03:47:17,931 --> 03:47:19,769
The distributor
didn't want that,
4777
03:47:19,792 --> 03:47:22,424
so they took out a
bunch of my scenes.
4778
03:47:22,448 --> 03:47:24,734
The hardest thing I
did in "The Video Dead"
4779
03:47:24,757 --> 03:47:26,078
was being dead.
4780
03:47:26,102 --> 03:47:27,906
That scene where
they open the door.
4781
03:47:27,931 --> 03:47:29,802
We had to do that
two or three times
4782
03:47:29,826 --> 03:47:32,448
because I could
not stop shivering.
4783
03:47:33,343 --> 03:47:34,561
Holy shit!
4784
03:47:34,585 --> 03:47:35,630
A few days later,
they called me up
4785
03:47:35,655 --> 03:47:37,217
and said would I be interested
4786
03:47:37,240 --> 03:47:39,734
in being in the movie some more?
4787
03:47:39,757 --> 03:47:42,286
I came back as Jack the Zombie.
4788
03:47:42,309 --> 03:47:46,112
The actor who originally played
Jack the Zombie had died.
4789
03:47:46,137 --> 03:47:47,769
I don't know how or why,
4790
03:47:47,792 --> 03:47:49,251
so they had a vacancy, and I was
4791
03:47:49,274 --> 03:47:52,000
the right height and weight.
4792
03:47:54,757 --> 03:47:57,043
All those zombies
had personality.
4793
03:47:57,067 --> 03:47:59,424
They weren't just eating brains
4794
03:47:59,448 --> 03:48:01,906
for the sake of eating brains.
4795
03:48:01,931 --> 03:48:03,043
They were going places.
4796
03:48:03,067 --> 03:48:04,206
They were doing things.
4797
03:48:07,481 --> 03:48:09,217
Those are some of the
best zombies we have
4798
03:48:09,240 --> 03:48:11,182
of the entire 1980s decade.
4799
03:48:11,206 --> 03:48:14,655
The bride zombie, she's doing
all these domestic things.
4800
03:48:18,481 --> 03:48:22,527
And then you have the rockabilly
Flock of Seagulls zombie,
4801
03:48:22,550 --> 03:48:25,516
who's kind of like the
ladies man of the zombies.
4802
03:48:30,655 --> 03:48:34,424
My favorite scene is when
I'm the way too cool zombie.
4803
03:48:34,448 --> 03:48:38,734
Yes, I like you, you know?
4804
03:48:38,757 --> 03:48:41,481
I could tell I really
creeped her out.
4805
03:48:43,240 --> 03:48:45,700
I really enjoyed working
with Robert Scott.
4806
03:48:45,724 --> 03:48:47,561
He really didn't
want anybody to know
4807
03:48:47,585 --> 03:48:51,448
that that film had
only cost $35,000.
4808
03:48:52,620 --> 03:48:54,802
It was shot on video,
transferred to film,
4809
03:48:54,826 --> 03:48:58,481
and then transferred back
to video again.
4810
03:49:02,792 --> 03:49:05,217
It was generating a nice
amount of money here and there,
4811
03:49:05,240 --> 03:49:08,595
prior to Avco Embassy
going bankrupt.
4812
03:49:08,620 --> 03:49:11,240
People were impressed
that I was in it.
4813
03:49:12,481 --> 03:49:14,078
I didn't have to pay
for video rentals
4814
03:49:14,102 --> 03:49:15,689
in a couple video stores.
4815
03:49:17,102 --> 03:49:19,424
This bar I hung out
at kept me drunk
4816
03:49:19,448 --> 03:49:21,286
for about six months,
because I brought in
4817
03:49:21,309 --> 03:49:24,896
a copy of the thing and showed
it at the bar.
4818
03:49:30,861 --> 03:49:31,941
People look at that
film, and they wonder
4819
03:49:31,965 --> 03:49:33,458
whatever happened to that guy.
4820
03:49:33,481 --> 03:49:36,792
And now they get their answer
in "The Greasy Strangler".
4821
03:49:50,033 --> 03:49:52,147
"Slumber Party Massacre II".
4822
03:49:52,172 --> 03:49:54,976
If you go, don't go all the way.
4823
03:49:55,000 --> 03:49:56,769
Oh god, anybody got any tranqs?
4824
03:49:56,792 --> 03:49:59,527
A lot of us straight boys
4825
03:49:59,550 --> 03:50:02,561
used to wonder in deep thought
4826
03:50:02,585 --> 03:50:04,493
about what must be going on
4827
03:50:04,516 --> 03:50:06,516
when girls are having
a slumber party.
4828
03:50:07,448 --> 03:50:09,424
You look like a big chicken.
4829
03:50:09,448 --> 03:50:10,665
Bawk, bawk, bawk!
4830
03:50:10,689 --> 03:50:12,286
I love the "Slumber
Party Massacre" series.
4831
03:50:12,309 --> 03:50:14,251
They're all written
and directed by women,
4832
03:50:14,274 --> 03:50:16,896
and that shows in the
content of the film.
4833
03:50:24,585 --> 03:50:26,217
One of the cool things about
"Slumber Party Massacre 1"
4834
03:50:26,240 --> 03:50:28,769
is that it's really
satirizing the slasher genre
4835
03:50:28,792 --> 03:50:30,458
at a time when the
conversation around
4836
03:50:30,481 --> 03:50:33,182
whether or not slasher
films were feminist.
4837
03:50:33,206 --> 03:50:36,067
But "Slumber Party Massacre 2"
takes that and runs with it.
4838
03:50:36,931 --> 03:50:37,907
Come on baby!
4839
03:50:37,932 --> 03:50:39,413
We gonna rock and roll!
4840
03:50:41,240 --> 03:50:45,112
"Slumber Party Massacre
2" is actually a meta film.
4841
03:50:45,137 --> 03:50:48,630
A comment on those
kinds of slasher movies,
4842
03:50:48,655 --> 03:50:51,343
at the same time that it is one.
4843
03:50:56,102 --> 03:50:58,251
Plus, it's a musical.
4844
03:50:58,274 --> 03:51:00,976
♪ I love to jam
it to the floor ♪
4845
03:51:01,000 --> 03:51:02,734
♪ Let its wild parts roar
4846
03:51:02,757 --> 03:51:05,424
I was working for Roger Corman,
4847
03:51:05,448 --> 03:51:09,010
and I said Roger, I'd really
like to direct something,
4848
03:51:09,033 --> 03:51:11,458
and he said, okay.
4849
03:51:11,481 --> 03:51:14,388
I have something you
can direct immediately.
4850
03:51:14,413 --> 03:51:17,802
He said "Slumber
Party Massacre II".
4851
03:51:17,826 --> 03:51:21,689
We have to make it, because
I've sold all the rights to it.
4852
03:51:23,172 --> 03:51:24,595
"Slumber Party Massacre
II" is about some girls
4853
03:51:24,620 --> 03:51:27,837
who get away for a slumber
party at a cottage,
4854
03:51:27,861 --> 03:51:32,217
and it's interrupted by a
musical icon serial killer,
4855
03:51:32,240 --> 03:51:33,802
who is going to
sing and kill them
4856
03:51:33,826 --> 03:51:36,000
with his crazy guitar.
4857
03:51:37,240 --> 03:51:38,871
Yoo-hoo!
4858
03:51:38,896 --> 03:51:40,217
I'm home!
4859
03:51:40,240 --> 03:51:41,769
What could be more evil
4860
03:51:41,792 --> 03:51:45,000
than a weaponized
electric guitar?
4861
03:51:47,413 --> 03:51:49,274
To drill poor innocent
victims' heads in?
4862
03:51:51,585 --> 03:51:54,182
I couldn't think of
anything that represented
4863
03:51:54,206 --> 03:51:57,424
the phallic nature of rock music
4864
03:51:57,448 --> 03:52:01,067
any better than a guitar
that had a drill on the end.
4865
03:52:02,309 --> 03:52:04,561
Atanas Ilitch plays
the driller killer.
4866
03:52:04,585 --> 03:52:08,630
And this is Atanas
Ilitch's only album.
4867
03:52:08,655 --> 03:52:12,757
If you look, he's holding
a cat on the back.
4868
03:52:15,481 --> 03:52:19,182
He was full of lots
of enthusiasm and ideas,
4869
03:52:19,206 --> 03:52:21,700
and I didn't have
a choreographer,
4870
03:52:21,724 --> 03:52:26,354
so he and I had to make up his
"Let's Buzz" dance together,
4871
03:52:26,379 --> 03:52:27,976
and the chorus was
4872
03:52:28,000 --> 03:52:29,941
♪ Let's buzz
4873
03:52:29,965 --> 03:52:30,976
He's out there.
4874
03:52:31,000 --> 03:52:32,458
♪ Let's buzz
4875
03:52:32,481 --> 03:52:34,792
It was a sexy song.
4876
03:52:35,965 --> 03:52:38,837
My favorite two things
is the dead chicken
4877
03:52:38,861 --> 03:52:40,976
that jumps out of
the refrigerator
4878
03:52:41,000 --> 03:52:43,802
onto Crystal Bernard's chest,
4879
03:52:43,826 --> 03:52:47,516
and spews weird liquid
out of its cut neck.
4880
03:52:51,655 --> 03:52:54,078
The other one is
they're driving away,
4881
03:52:54,102 --> 03:52:57,354
and the Driller Killer, of
course, is in the backseat,
4882
03:52:57,379 --> 03:53:02,033
and he drills the kid who's
driving through the seat.
4883
03:53:06,757 --> 03:53:11,043
It sold a tremendous
amount of video cassettes
4884
03:53:11,067 --> 03:53:14,010
which was what Roger wanted
to sell at that point.
4885
03:53:14,033 --> 03:53:16,769
He said it made over $6 million
4886
03:53:16,792 --> 03:53:20,734
on a $390,000 budget.
4887
03:53:20,757 --> 03:53:23,769
It actually got
banned in the UK.
4888
03:53:23,792 --> 03:53:25,871
They wrote a letter to Roger
4889
03:53:25,896 --> 03:53:29,319
saying you can't show
this film in the UK
4890
03:53:29,343 --> 03:53:33,976
because it's a particularly
virulent combination
4891
03:53:34,000 --> 03:53:36,172
of sex and violence.
4892
03:53:40,792 --> 03:53:42,319
I wish I had a copy
of that letter.
4893
03:53:42,343 --> 03:53:45,527
They sounded extremely offended.
4894
03:53:45,550 --> 03:53:47,976
The way she broken my heart,
4895
03:53:48,000 --> 03:53:50,112
it made me cry,
4896
03:53:50,137 --> 03:53:53,379
so don't you know
she had to die.
4897
03:53:59,931 --> 03:54:02,561
The 80s, like any
other film decade,
4898
03:54:02,585 --> 03:54:04,286
was about transition.
4899
03:54:04,309 --> 03:54:06,561
I think that there was forward
motion in a lot of fronts,
4900
03:54:06,585 --> 03:54:08,458
and there was backward
motion in a lot of fronts.
4901
03:54:08,481 --> 03:54:10,286
Move lady, or I'm gonna blow off
4902
03:54:10,309 --> 03:54:11,734
your old man's 'acho bizeezhiis!
4903
03:54:11,757 --> 03:54:14,043
The 80s was before we were PC.
4904
03:54:14,067 --> 03:54:17,010
Gay people, black
people, Asian people,
4905
03:54:17,033 --> 03:54:19,595
in the 80s movies were
always the butt of the joke.
4906
03:54:19,620 --> 03:54:20,906
And we just dealt with it.
4907
03:54:20,931 --> 03:54:22,424
We were just used to it.
4908
03:54:22,448 --> 03:54:26,424
Urban stereotypes of black
people, Asian stereotypes.
4909
03:54:26,448 --> 03:54:28,112
And yes, they were harmful,
4910
03:54:28,137 --> 03:54:30,286
but we weren't as aware
that they were harmful,
4911
03:54:30,309 --> 03:54:33,413
because we just had not
awakened ourselves yet.
4912
03:54:39,379 --> 03:54:40,906
No!
4913
03:54:40,931 --> 03:54:42,871
I think stereotypes are
stereotypes for a reason,
4914
03:54:42,896 --> 03:54:45,010
because there's a
lot of truth in them.
4915
03:54:45,033 --> 03:54:47,837
But I also think that the
80s is more complicated
4916
03:54:47,861 --> 03:54:50,354
and messier than
just a reductive,
4917
03:54:50,379 --> 03:54:52,516
the black guy dies first rule.
4918
03:54:58,309 --> 03:55:01,147
I look back at Romero,
"Night of the Living Dead",
4919
03:55:01,172 --> 03:55:02,837
a black leading man.
4920
03:55:02,861 --> 03:55:05,286
Very bold move on his part.
4921
03:55:05,309 --> 03:55:08,010
He wasn't there as a
symbol of a black man.
4922
03:55:08,033 --> 03:55:10,102
He was there just as a man.
4923
03:55:12,206 --> 03:55:14,424
What people don't give
Romero enough credit for
4924
03:55:14,448 --> 03:55:17,217
is that in his zombie
trilogy, Romero's always
4925
03:55:17,240 --> 03:55:19,147
putting the underdog
at the front.
4926
03:55:19,172 --> 03:55:20,319
Get out of the way, bitch,
4927
03:55:20,343 --> 03:55:21,863
or I'll go right
through you with this.
4928
03:55:24,585 --> 03:55:27,388
We're getting to
make this a habit, man.
4929
03:55:27,413 --> 03:55:29,595
"Night of the Comet",
we had a Mexican man
4930
03:55:29,620 --> 03:55:32,734
as the male lead, which,
because it's Los Angeles,
4931
03:55:32,757 --> 03:55:34,527
we didn't think
anything of that,
4932
03:55:34,550 --> 03:55:36,931
but everybody else
was like, whoa!
4933
03:55:38,000 --> 03:55:38,941
Jeez!
4934
03:55:38,965 --> 03:55:40,084
There goes the neighborhood!
4935
03:55:41,172 --> 03:55:45,931
In those days, it was
defiant to cast a Latino.
4936
03:55:48,274 --> 03:55:50,286
I would be very happy
when I would watch
4937
03:55:50,309 --> 03:55:53,630
a horror movie
back then, and see
4938
03:55:53,655 --> 03:55:56,965
the kind of diversity
that did show up.
4939
03:56:00,000 --> 03:56:01,182
Want one?
4940
03:56:01,206 --> 03:56:03,354
Because representation
is such a new idea,
4941
03:56:03,379 --> 03:56:05,906
because sometimes you don't
know what you don't have,
4942
03:56:05,931 --> 03:56:07,286
until you start to get it,
4943
03:56:07,309 --> 03:56:08,388
and then you're like, oh.
4944
03:56:08,413 --> 03:56:09,792
We didn't have this before.
4945
03:56:11,000 --> 03:56:12,251
Oh, look at that face.
4946
03:56:12,274 --> 03:56:13,620
Okay do the other one.
4947
03:56:15,689 --> 03:56:18,458
I'm from a Filipino family,
4948
03:56:18,481 --> 03:56:22,286
and our culture was never
represented.
4949
03:56:22,309 --> 03:56:25,976
Unfortunately, even
today, we're very limited.
4950
03:56:26,000 --> 03:56:29,043
Looking back on the way
casting was in the 80s,
4951
03:56:29,067 --> 03:56:32,802
I know it can be easy
to be upset at the past,
4952
03:56:32,826 --> 03:56:35,354
but it was of its time,
4953
03:56:35,379 --> 03:56:37,481
and it was kind of rough.
4954
03:56:39,274 --> 03:56:40,078
No!
4955
03:56:40,102 --> 03:56:41,102
No!
4956
03:56:42,481 --> 03:56:44,458
In the rare instances
where you do see yourself
4957
03:56:44,481 --> 03:56:46,769
represented onscreen, or
something that is even
4958
03:56:46,792 --> 03:56:49,871
closely akin to you, and
it's shown in a negative way,
4959
03:56:49,896 --> 03:56:52,251
or there's violence being
done to this person,
4960
03:56:52,274 --> 03:56:53,655
it weighs on you.
4961
03:56:55,413 --> 03:56:58,941
I feel like we can
learn from our mistakes,
4962
03:56:58,965 --> 03:57:01,388
but not beat
ourselves up about it,
4963
03:57:01,413 --> 03:57:05,206
and not feel like we
have to change the edit.
4964
03:57:08,861 --> 03:57:10,147
I don't think we
need to throw away
4965
03:57:10,172 --> 03:57:12,217
representation
that isn't perfect,
4966
03:57:12,240 --> 03:57:15,424
and in the 1980s,
representation was not perfect.
4967
03:57:15,448 --> 03:57:19,078
It's important to remember
what the social context is
4968
03:57:19,102 --> 03:57:20,319
when something's made.
4969
03:57:20,343 --> 03:57:21,941
We should be talking
about our history.
4970
03:57:21,965 --> 03:57:25,010
There's a reason why
this isn't okay now,
4971
03:57:25,033 --> 03:57:27,112
and was happening then.
4972
03:57:27,137 --> 03:57:30,424
Context, context, context
is what's important
4973
03:57:30,448 --> 03:57:31,700
when it comes to these films.
4974
03:57:31,724 --> 03:57:33,734
Doesn't it bother
you that he's a fag?
4975
03:57:33,757 --> 03:57:34,941
Come on-
4976
03:57:34,965 --> 03:57:36,527
Tell me, Billy.
4977
03:57:36,550 --> 03:57:37,802
Are you a fag?
4978
03:57:37,826 --> 03:57:40,147
We need to talk about
more than just the word.
4979
03:57:40,172 --> 03:57:42,665
We need to talk about what
the word was doing there,
4980
03:57:42,689 --> 03:57:44,286
and who put it on that page.
4981
03:57:44,309 --> 03:57:46,630
Every filmmaker,
their upbringing
4982
03:57:46,655 --> 03:57:49,251
influences their storytelling.
4983
03:57:49,274 --> 03:57:51,388
With that in mind, I began
to make my own films,
4984
03:57:51,413 --> 03:57:53,493
and I began to
write my own films,
4985
03:57:53,516 --> 03:57:55,388
and I began to
create opportunity,
4986
03:57:55,413 --> 03:57:58,043
not only for myself,
but for everyone else.
4987
03:57:58,067 --> 03:57:59,665
What do you make of it, Mark?
4988
03:57:59,689 --> 03:58:00,941
Beats me, Chief.
4989
03:58:00,965 --> 03:58:02,734
Seems like the work of
pathological weirdos.
4990
03:58:02,757 --> 03:58:06,379
Representation being
a double-edged sword.
4991
03:58:07,861 --> 03:58:09,043
I'm really getting scared.
4992
03:58:09,067 --> 03:58:10,561
I can't take back
any movies I did,
4993
03:58:10,585 --> 03:58:12,010
and I don't want to.
4994
03:58:12,033 --> 03:58:15,424
I represent as far as
I can what I look like
4995
03:58:15,448 --> 03:58:17,286
in the group of
people I come from,
4996
03:58:17,309 --> 03:58:19,527
but I never pretended,
and I don't say
4997
03:58:19,550 --> 03:58:21,527
I'm speaking for everybody.
4998
03:58:21,550 --> 03:58:23,147
I just have my little lane,
4999
03:58:23,172 --> 03:58:24,595
and I try to stick to my lane.
5000
03:58:24,620 --> 03:58:26,493
When you look at
horror of the late 1970s,
5001
03:58:26,516 --> 03:58:28,388
early 1980s, we start to see
5002
03:58:28,413 --> 03:58:30,388
actual queer
representation trickle in.
5003
03:58:30,413 --> 03:58:33,595
We see gay guys kicking
ass in films like "Siege",
5004
03:58:33,620 --> 03:58:35,448
and "Savage Weekend".
5005
03:58:39,379 --> 03:58:42,319
That was getting way
more normalized in the 70s,
5006
03:58:42,343 --> 03:58:44,217
and then when AIDS hit,
they all got shoved
5007
03:58:44,240 --> 03:58:45,734
back in the closet pretty hard.
5008
03:58:45,757 --> 03:58:48,561
Suddenly, there is very
much no longer an interest
5009
03:58:48,585 --> 03:58:51,527
in having queer characters
normalized in those films.
5010
03:58:51,550 --> 03:58:52,941
It was a big
elephant in the room,
5011
03:58:52,965 --> 03:58:54,286
and I think a lot
of horror filmmakers
5012
03:58:54,309 --> 03:58:56,182
didn't want to bother
navigating that.
5013
03:58:56,206 --> 03:58:59,043
It's part of the
evolutionary process of horror.
5014
03:58:59,067 --> 03:59:02,665
For me, like it was such
an educational process
5015
03:59:02,689 --> 03:59:05,976
to be able to go
back and look at how
5016
03:59:06,000 --> 03:59:07,906
we've changed, and
how our dialogue,
5017
03:59:07,931 --> 03:59:11,137
and how our discussion of
these movies has changed.
5018
03:59:14,448 --> 03:59:15,550
Oh god, she's a boy.
5019
03:59:17,067 --> 03:59:19,319
It's hard to compare the 1980s
5020
03:59:19,343 --> 03:59:22,182
and representation in horror
to what we have today.
5021
03:59:22,206 --> 03:59:24,976
Because what we have is
a conversation happening
5022
03:59:25,000 --> 03:59:28,240
that's asking for what we
want our future to look like.
5023
03:59:30,620 --> 03:59:33,286
I look at everything
that happens in the past
5024
03:59:33,309 --> 03:59:36,343
as opportunities to do much,
much better in the future.
5025
03:59:38,000 --> 03:59:40,769
It was once said to me that
representation is a journey,
5026
03:59:40,792 --> 03:59:42,286
not a destination.
5027
03:59:42,309 --> 03:59:44,561
So to me, representation
in the 80s
5028
03:59:44,585 --> 03:59:46,319
is a work in progress.
5029
03:59:46,343 --> 03:59:48,941
Representation now is
a work in progress.
5030
03:59:48,965 --> 03:59:50,837
There's forward movement, and
there's backward movement,
5031
03:59:50,861 --> 03:59:53,871
but you can't snapshot it
and say this is what it was.
5032
03:59:53,896 --> 03:59:55,595
Because I think it's
a more complicated
5033
03:59:55,620 --> 03:59:57,000
messier picture than that.
5034
04:00:10,240 --> 04:00:13,000
"Return of
the Living Dead: Part II".
5035
04:00:14,172 --> 04:00:17,010
Just when you thought
it was safe to be dead.
5036
04:00:17,033 --> 04:00:19,561
I love a good zany horror movie.
5037
04:00:19,585 --> 04:00:21,871
Zombie content right
now is very serious.
5038
04:00:21,896 --> 04:00:24,458
It's all about
society and humanity,
5039
04:00:24,481 --> 04:00:25,976
and what does humanity mean.
5040
04:00:26,000 --> 04:00:27,665
This movie, it's
fun to watch zombies
5041
04:00:27,689 --> 04:00:30,448
just be ridiculous.
5042
04:00:34,206 --> 04:00:35,011
"Return of the
Living Dead: Part 1"
5043
04:00:35,034 --> 04:00:36,871
is truly a dark comedy.
5044
04:00:36,896 --> 04:00:38,424
You're laughing
at the situations
5045
04:00:38,448 --> 04:00:40,251
the kids get themselves into,
5046
04:00:40,274 --> 04:00:43,481
and "Part II" kind of
went for the jokes.
5047
04:00:48,000 --> 04:00:50,182
It's less of a sequel,
and more just kind of
5048
04:00:50,206 --> 04:00:52,319
a goofier remake
of the first one.
5049
04:00:52,343 --> 04:00:54,734
"Return of the Living
Dead II" shows that
5050
04:00:54,757 --> 04:00:56,769
even if you die in
the first movie,
5051
04:00:56,792 --> 04:00:58,861
you can still come
back for the sequel.
5052
04:01:02,000 --> 04:01:03,871
Not bad.
5053
04:01:03,896 --> 04:01:05,976
Nice bit of rump
in her time, huh?
5054
04:01:06,000 --> 04:01:08,837
James Karen and Tom
Matthews from the first movie
5055
04:01:08,861 --> 04:01:10,217
come back for this one.
5056
04:01:10,240 --> 04:01:12,665
They're kind of
filling the same role,
5057
04:01:12,689 --> 04:01:15,217
and basically have the
same arc as the first one,
5058
04:01:15,240 --> 04:01:19,043
so they sort of are playing
the same characters.
5059
04:01:19,067 --> 04:01:21,217
We've been here before!
5060
04:01:21,240 --> 04:01:24,147
It's like a dream,
this whole thing!
5061
04:01:24,172 --> 04:01:25,172
You, me!
5062
04:01:26,379 --> 04:01:27,700
"Return of the Living Dead"
was a huge hit in Japan,
5063
04:01:27,724 --> 04:01:29,665
and they said if you
can have Jimmy Karen
5064
04:01:29,689 --> 04:01:31,458
and Tom Matthews come
back, we'd give you
5065
04:01:31,481 --> 04:01:32,700
a little bit more money.
5066
04:01:32,724 --> 04:01:34,561
So that's how Jimmy
and I got involved
5067
04:01:34,585 --> 04:01:37,240
back in it again, was
because of the Japanese.
5068
04:01:41,102 --> 04:01:43,251
Jimmy Karen, lot of
people on the East Coast
5069
04:01:43,274 --> 04:01:44,871
call him the Pathmark man.
5070
04:01:44,896 --> 04:01:47,251
March rolls in with
hundreds of price reductions
5071
04:01:47,274 --> 04:01:48,700
in this new Pathmark circular.
5072
04:01:48,724 --> 04:01:50,941
So he would give weekly
specials every week
5073
04:01:50,965 --> 04:01:52,286
for 30 years.
5074
04:01:52,309 --> 04:01:54,319
24 hours a day, you'll save
5075
04:01:54,343 --> 04:01:56,458
with one stop
shopping at Pathmark.
5076
04:01:56,481 --> 04:01:58,251
He was so infectious on the set.
5077
04:01:58,274 --> 04:01:59,931
Raised everybody's game up.
5078
04:02:04,792 --> 04:02:07,354
You laugh at the situations
we get ourselves into.
5079
04:02:07,379 --> 04:02:10,700
You can't believe the
shit that's going on.
5080
04:02:10,724 --> 04:02:12,286
Are you fucking kidding?
5081
04:02:12,309 --> 04:02:13,665
That's insane.
5082
04:02:13,689 --> 04:02:15,147
That's what you're
responding to.
5083
04:02:15,172 --> 04:02:16,976
We're acting it for real, man.
5084
04:02:17,000 --> 04:02:18,147
It's the dead!
5085
04:02:18,172 --> 04:02:18,977
They've come back to life!
5086
04:02:19,001 --> 04:02:20,010
The dead?
5087
04:02:20,033 --> 04:02:20,872
Dead, dead what?
5088
04:02:20,897 --> 04:02:21,976
People!
5089
04:02:22,000 --> 04:02:23,251
We need your car!
5090
04:02:23,274 --> 04:02:24,561
Well it sounds to me
like you need a hearse.
5091
04:02:24,585 --> 04:02:26,319
I had an issue with Jimmy Karen
5092
04:02:26,343 --> 04:02:27,837
eating brains, actually,
5093
04:02:27,861 --> 04:02:29,561
because the director wanted
me to eat frickin' brains,
5094
04:02:29,585 --> 04:02:33,251
and I was like, that was just
so over the line, I thought.
5095
04:02:33,274 --> 04:02:36,286
I got really upset
about that on the set.
5096
04:02:36,309 --> 04:02:38,309
I had issues with
him, Ken Wiederhorn.
5097
04:02:42,792 --> 04:02:45,251
It's like he lost a bet
and had to do the movie.
5098
04:02:45,274 --> 04:02:47,286
Hemdale made him do
it to do other movies
5099
04:02:47,309 --> 04:02:48,837
that he wanted to do.
5100
04:02:48,861 --> 04:02:53,861
It's a sad story of Ken
Wiederhorn and his career.
5101
04:02:55,033 --> 04:02:57,078
He came right out of the
gate with "Shock Waves",
5102
04:02:57,102 --> 04:02:58,595
he had "Dark Tower"
that he wrote
5103
04:02:58,620 --> 04:03:00,388
that was completely butchered.
5104
04:03:00,413 --> 04:03:03,319
"Meatballs II" was never
a "Meatballs" movie.
5105
04:03:03,343 --> 04:03:04,769
It was a movie that he made,
5106
04:03:04,792 --> 04:03:06,976
and the company was
like, we need a sequel.
5107
04:03:07,000 --> 04:03:07,907
And they retitled it.
5108
04:03:07,932 --> 04:03:09,182
And this happens again.
5109
04:03:09,206 --> 04:03:11,147
I mean, Ken has the script,
5110
04:03:11,172 --> 04:03:13,217
and it's not really
a zombie comedy,
5111
04:03:13,240 --> 04:03:15,896
but they want to make a
"Return of the Living Dead II".
5112
04:03:21,000 --> 04:03:22,871
He just really wasn't interested
5113
04:03:22,896 --> 04:03:24,516
in doing the movie,
but he did it
5114
04:03:26,861 --> 04:03:27,861
Oh, fuck this!
5115
04:03:32,343 --> 04:03:34,802
The strengths of "Part II"
that people really enjoy,
5116
04:03:34,826 --> 04:03:38,010
I think the fact that the
main character was a kid,
5117
04:03:38,033 --> 04:03:42,102
so they have an emotional
connection to the movie.
5118
04:03:43,965 --> 04:03:44,965
Brains!
5119
04:03:45,757 --> 04:03:47,010
I've never heard anyone say
5120
04:03:47,033 --> 04:03:48,976
that they've hated "Part II",
5121
04:03:49,000 --> 04:03:51,906
except for me.
5122
04:03:51,931 --> 04:03:54,033
This is big fucking trouble!
5123
04:03:56,033 --> 04:03:57,757
I've changed my mind since then.
5124
04:04:12,274 --> 04:04:15,458
You've got
to give the devil his due!
5125
04:04:15,481 --> 04:04:16,976
"Sorority Babes".
5126
04:04:17,000 --> 04:04:19,319
"Sorority Babes in the
Slimeball Bowl-O-Rama"
5127
04:04:19,343 --> 04:04:22,665
is about these kids
that think, okay,
5128
04:04:22,689 --> 04:04:26,527
we're gonna break into a
mall, in the bowling alley,
5129
04:04:26,550 --> 04:04:28,734
and steal a trophy.
5130
04:04:28,757 --> 04:04:30,458
Come on, man!
5131
04:04:30,481 --> 04:04:31,287
I'm working on it.
5132
04:04:31,310 --> 04:04:33,067
Will you cool your jets?
5133
04:04:35,343 --> 04:04:36,837
Things turn out really bad,
5134
04:04:36,861 --> 04:04:39,147
because they awaken this imp.
5135
04:04:39,172 --> 04:04:40,802
Such a sour face!
5136
04:04:40,826 --> 04:04:42,837
Stop it, you little prick!
5137
04:04:42,861 --> 04:04:45,319
Very funny imp,
but very menacing,
5138
04:04:45,343 --> 04:04:47,206
and does bad things.
5139
04:04:48,655 --> 04:04:49,631
Have a nice trip!
5140
04:04:49,656 --> 04:04:51,217
See you next fall!
5141
04:04:51,240 --> 04:04:53,665
I crack me up!
5142
04:04:53,689 --> 04:04:55,976
It's that story
of the monkey's paw.
5143
04:04:56,000 --> 04:04:57,493
Be careful what you wish for.
5144
04:04:57,516 --> 04:04:58,389
Gold!
5145
04:04:58,414 --> 04:04:59,458
Lots of it!
5146
04:04:59,481 --> 04:05:01,388
Then gold it is!
5147
04:05:01,413 --> 04:05:02,595
This isn't gold!
5148
04:05:02,620 --> 04:05:03,871
These people make these wishes,
5149
04:05:03,896 --> 04:05:06,906
and they go so bad,
it's not even funny.
5150
04:05:06,931 --> 04:05:09,595
Oh perfect form!
5151
04:05:09,620 --> 04:05:10,906
Lovely form!
5152
04:05:10,931 --> 04:05:13,941
Now I come along, and
my name is Spider in it,
5153
04:05:13,965 --> 04:05:16,550
and I save the day.
5154
04:05:20,861 --> 04:05:23,182
When I got the script,
it wasn't called
5155
04:05:23,206 --> 04:05:25,251
"Sorority Babes in the
Slimeball Bowl O' Rama",
5156
04:05:25,274 --> 04:05:26,493
it was called "The Imp".
5157
04:05:26,516 --> 04:05:28,802
We had no idea what
the imp would be like.
5158
04:05:28,826 --> 04:05:30,251
We didn't know what
it would sound like,
5159
04:05:30,274 --> 04:05:31,561
we didn't know what
it would look like,
5160
04:05:31,585 --> 04:05:33,078
because no one was there.
5161
04:05:33,102 --> 04:05:35,561
We just had to pretend we
were looking at something.
5162
04:05:35,585 --> 04:05:37,769
We had no idea it
would be a funny voice.
5163
04:05:37,792 --> 04:05:39,630
Uncle Imp is gonna get ya!
5164
04:05:39,655 --> 04:05:40,826
Fun, fun, fun!
5165
04:05:42,033 --> 04:05:44,078
Dukey Flyswatter was in a band
5166
04:05:44,102 --> 04:05:45,665
called The Haunted Garage.
5167
04:05:45,689 --> 04:05:49,043
He was a great guy and
everything, to work with.
5168
04:05:49,067 --> 04:05:52,033
No, that's his real name.
5169
04:05:53,240 --> 04:05:54,493
I don't know what
his real name is.
5170
04:05:54,516 --> 04:05:57,527
It's probably Howard,
or something like that.
5171
04:05:57,550 --> 04:06:00,931
Would I lie to you?
5172
04:06:06,896 --> 04:06:09,458
"The Serpent and the Rainbow".
5173
04:06:09,481 --> 04:06:12,388
When I think of the movies
that Wes Craven created
5174
04:06:12,413 --> 04:06:15,976
that really moved me and
challenged me as a viewer,
5175
04:06:16,000 --> 04:06:18,802
"Serpent and the Rainbow"
is definitely at the top
5176
04:06:18,826 --> 04:06:20,033
of that list.
5177
04:06:23,620 --> 04:06:25,112
I love "The Serpent
and the Rainbow".
5178
04:06:25,137 --> 04:06:28,976
They have this dust that you
can put into people's faces
5179
04:06:29,000 --> 04:06:30,493
and they become a zombie.
5180
04:06:30,516 --> 04:06:34,413
So you could bury them,
they could come alive again.
5181
04:06:35,620 --> 04:06:38,976
It is Wes Craven's
take on the zombie film.
5182
04:06:39,000 --> 04:06:41,388
Everybody was kind
of trying to chase
5183
04:06:41,413 --> 04:06:44,343
what George Romero did with
"Night of the Living Dead".
5184
04:06:45,481 --> 04:06:46,976
It wasn't until "Night
of the Living Dead"
5185
04:06:47,000 --> 04:06:50,251
that people even started
talking about ghouls as zombies.
5186
04:06:50,274 --> 04:06:51,630
Zombies were Caribbean.
5187
04:06:51,655 --> 04:06:53,769
Zombies were in "I
Walked With a Zombie",
5188
04:06:53,792 --> 04:06:55,078
you know, "White Zombie".
5189
04:06:55,102 --> 04:06:56,700
That was kind of zombies.
5190
04:06:56,724 --> 04:07:00,388
But now, zombie
became synonymous with
living dead people.
5191
04:07:00,413 --> 04:07:03,319
The whole meaning of
the word got screwed up.
5192
04:07:03,343 --> 04:07:05,630
Wes Craven is inviting us
5193
04:07:05,655 --> 04:07:08,458
to learn the history
of these monsters
5194
04:07:08,481 --> 04:07:10,147
that we're fascinated with.
5195
04:07:10,172 --> 04:07:12,147
This comes from him
being an academic.
5196
04:07:12,172 --> 04:07:15,837
He goes back to the
root of the zombie,
5197
04:07:15,861 --> 04:07:17,976
and he goes back to
Haitian folklore.
5198
04:07:18,000 --> 04:07:21,976
It's very much about the
idea of wealthy white people
5199
04:07:22,000 --> 04:07:24,595
trying to steal
cultural heritage
5200
04:07:24,620 --> 04:07:26,147
away from Haitians.
5201
04:07:26,172 --> 04:07:27,424
Now, if you don't
like the word zombie,
5202
04:07:27,448 --> 04:07:28,871
you can choose another word,
5203
04:07:28,896 --> 04:07:30,527
but the fact is,
somebody brought him
5204
04:07:30,550 --> 04:07:32,217
back from the grave,
and I want to know
5205
04:07:32,240 --> 04:07:33,595
how they did it.
5206
04:07:33,620 --> 04:07:35,871
They send Bill
Pullman's character there
5207
04:07:35,896 --> 04:07:38,112
to find out what is the secret
5208
04:07:38,137 --> 04:07:40,251
to immortality, essentially.
5209
04:07:40,274 --> 04:07:44,217
He thinks that he
understands these rituals,
5210
04:07:44,240 --> 04:07:46,251
and that he is above them,
he is a man of science,
5211
04:07:46,274 --> 04:07:47,906
but then he discovers
that he doesn't really
5212
04:07:47,931 --> 04:07:49,112
know it at all.
5213
04:07:49,137 --> 04:07:52,802
Whatever happens,
death is not the end.
5214
04:07:52,826 --> 04:07:55,354
Wes Craven is a
great, great director,
5215
04:07:55,379 --> 04:07:57,343
and comes up with great ideas.
5216
04:08:01,724 --> 04:08:03,251
Really fantastic
effects in that movie.
5217
04:08:03,274 --> 04:08:05,319
Some of the camera tricks
that they're able to do,
5218
04:08:05,343 --> 04:08:07,354
especially in the
sequences with the coffin,
5219
04:08:07,379 --> 04:08:09,000
when it fills with blood.
5220
04:08:11,206 --> 04:08:12,413
It's just phenomenal.
5221
04:08:14,000 --> 04:08:16,388
The dream sequence
with the zombie bride,
5222
04:08:16,413 --> 04:08:18,757
a snake comes out of her skull.
5223
04:08:19,965 --> 04:08:22,147
I mean, that is
incredible imagery.
5224
04:08:22,172 --> 04:08:24,240
You dreamt of me
and of the grave.
5225
04:08:25,689 --> 04:08:27,147
I know because I was there.
5226
04:08:27,172 --> 04:08:31,724
Zakes Mokae in that movie
is absolutely terrifying.
5227
04:08:34,172 --> 04:08:36,354
Bill Pullman really,
he had to put up
5228
04:08:36,379 --> 04:08:38,458
with a lot for that movie.
5229
04:08:38,481 --> 04:08:41,837
I want to hear you scream.
5230
04:08:41,861 --> 04:08:44,837
Where he's basically
in a chair, nude,
5231
04:08:44,861 --> 04:08:47,724
and a nine inch nail
that changes a lot.
5232
04:08:54,309 --> 04:08:56,802
You see it once, you're never
gonna forget that moment.
5233
04:08:56,826 --> 04:08:58,033
And get out!
5234
04:08:59,274 --> 04:09:01,769
"The Serpent and the
Rainbow" feels the most
5235
04:09:01,792 --> 04:09:04,424
like who Wes Craven
was as a person to me,
5236
04:09:04,448 --> 04:09:08,043
because he is
interrogating the way
5237
04:09:08,067 --> 04:09:11,976
that our society functions,
and our fear of death,
5238
04:09:12,000 --> 04:09:14,527
because I think
ultimately, a fear of death
5239
04:09:14,550 --> 04:09:18,033
in this film is a fear of
losing power and influence.
5240
04:09:19,102 --> 04:09:23,630
He has always reinvented horror
5241
04:09:23,655 --> 04:09:28,217
as a means to teach us
either about ourselves,
5242
04:09:28,240 --> 04:09:32,286
broader society, or about
the sins of America,
5243
04:09:32,309 --> 04:09:36,379
the way we extort other
cultures for our own gain.
5244
04:09:38,481 --> 04:09:40,976
Don't let them bury me.
5245
04:09:41,000 --> 04:09:42,413
I'm not dead!
5246
04:09:49,033 --> 04:09:52,286
When I really think
about all of my memories
5247
04:09:52,309 --> 04:09:54,147
on the set of "Sleepaway Camp",
5248
04:09:54,172 --> 04:09:56,182
we were just one big family.
5249
04:09:56,206 --> 04:09:58,665
One of the most magical
times of my life.
5250
04:09:58,689 --> 04:10:03,655
I was a 13-year-old
making this fun movie.
5251
04:10:06,000 --> 04:10:08,147
Spoiler alert, I mean
the first penis I saw
5252
04:10:08,172 --> 04:10:09,700
was my own penis, you know?
5253
04:10:09,724 --> 04:10:13,343
It was like, this was a
movie like none other.
5254
04:10:18,033 --> 04:10:21,112
Once you find out
what the ending is,
5255
04:10:21,137 --> 04:10:24,630
you start to understand
the deeper meaning.
5256
04:10:24,655 --> 04:10:26,078
And there's a lot going on.
5257
04:10:26,102 --> 04:10:30,112
Your gender identification,
your sexual orientation.
5258
04:10:30,137 --> 04:10:31,871
It was never intended to have
5259
04:10:31,896 --> 04:10:34,837
any kind of negative connotation
5260
04:10:34,861 --> 04:10:37,976
on any aspect of life.
5261
04:10:38,000 --> 04:10:39,343
Goodnight, campers.
5262
04:10:40,585 --> 04:10:42,319
"Sleepaway Camp 2".
5263
04:10:42,343 --> 04:10:45,388
Michael Simpson called
about portraying Angela
5264
04:10:45,413 --> 04:10:47,182
possibly in Parts 2 and 3.
5265
04:10:47,206 --> 04:10:48,527
It was the late 80s.
5266
04:10:48,550 --> 04:10:49,976
We were seeing more comedy.
5267
04:10:50,000 --> 04:10:53,896
And I just didn't take very
well to that character.
5268
04:10:55,757 --> 04:10:56,837
Wake up, everybody!
5269
04:10:56,861 --> 04:10:58,182
Breakfast in half an hour!
5270
04:10:58,206 --> 04:10:59,354
I put it on hold.
5271
04:10:59,379 --> 04:11:01,448
I'm young, let me go to school.
5272
04:11:03,172 --> 04:11:05,976
Robert Hiltzik made this
movie, and it was great.
5273
04:11:06,000 --> 04:11:08,319
So when Robert wrote the sequel,
5274
04:11:08,343 --> 04:11:12,112
he continued that dark
movie that was made,
5275
04:11:12,137 --> 04:11:14,217
and the producers
were like, nah.
5276
04:11:14,240 --> 04:11:16,734
We want to really
play into Angela.
5277
04:11:16,757 --> 04:11:19,112
Fritz Gordon is actually
Michael Hitchcock,
5278
04:11:19,137 --> 04:11:20,493
who wrote Glee.
5279
04:11:20,516 --> 04:11:22,769
He was brought in to
write the horror comedy.
5280
04:11:22,792 --> 04:11:24,458
There's lots of good kids.
5281
04:11:24,481 --> 04:11:26,493
We just have to
weed out the bad.
5282
04:11:26,516 --> 04:11:28,078
But it's mainly one liners,
5283
04:11:28,102 --> 04:11:29,941
and just kind of
Pamela Springsteen
5284
04:11:29,965 --> 04:11:31,941
taking this Angela character,
5285
04:11:31,965 --> 04:11:35,424
and just amplifying it so much.
5286
04:11:35,448 --> 04:11:37,343
Say no to drugs.
5287
04:11:41,172 --> 04:11:43,837
She brought so much energy.
5288
04:11:43,861 --> 04:11:46,251
That was an Angela that was fun.
5289
04:11:46,274 --> 04:11:47,448
You talk too much.
5290
04:11:50,620 --> 04:11:54,424
Also, them playing with
the transgender character,
5291
04:11:54,448 --> 04:11:59,078
fully a woman, has completely
undergone everything.
5292
04:11:59,102 --> 04:12:00,769
A surgery and all.
5293
04:12:00,792 --> 04:12:03,665
You're Angela Baker,
the angel of death!
5294
04:12:03,689 --> 04:12:05,319
They should have
called you Peter!
5295
04:12:05,343 --> 04:12:07,630
My name is Angela Johnson.
5296
04:12:07,655 --> 04:12:09,354
A Bruce Springsteen sister.
5297
04:12:09,379 --> 04:12:10,665
She kept it secret.
5298
04:12:10,689 --> 04:12:11,665
She wanted to be an actress,
5299
04:12:11,690 --> 04:12:12,906
but I guess it wasn't for her.
5300
04:12:12,931 --> 04:12:14,826
She ended up doing
photography instead.
5301
04:12:16,067 --> 04:12:19,043
Some of Bruce
Springsteen's album covers
5302
04:12:19,067 --> 04:12:22,630
is Pamela Springsteen's
photographs.
5303
04:12:22,655 --> 04:12:24,561
I was once a camper myself.
5304
04:12:24,585 --> 04:12:26,458
She's the boss' sister.
5305
04:12:26,481 --> 04:12:28,206
She was born cool.
5306
04:12:30,102 --> 04:12:32,458
Angela is killing
because she's bullied.
5307
04:12:32,481 --> 04:12:34,941
She's weeding out
all the bad kids,
5308
04:12:34,965 --> 04:12:36,319
and she's on top of it,
5309
04:12:36,343 --> 04:12:38,700
and she doesn't care
what anyone thinks.
5310
04:12:38,724 --> 04:12:40,000
Please, don't!
5311
04:12:42,620 --> 04:12:43,802
Sorry!
5312
04:12:43,826 --> 04:12:45,976
Once I start a task,
I always finish.
5313
04:12:46,000 --> 04:12:48,147
It has some kind
of cruel deaths,
5314
04:12:48,172 --> 04:12:50,826
like shoving somebody
down a Porta Potty.
5315
04:12:51,655 --> 04:12:52,655
What's down there?
5316
04:12:54,274 --> 04:12:55,906
The leeches
attached to her face,
5317
04:12:55,931 --> 04:12:58,217
she's obviously covered
in poop and pee,
5318
04:12:58,240 --> 04:12:59,837
and it's just like, ugh.
5319
04:12:59,861 --> 04:13:02,286
What a horrible way to die.
5320
04:13:02,309 --> 04:13:03,941
I love that outhouse scene.
5321
04:13:03,965 --> 04:13:05,724
That was disgusting!
5322
04:13:07,620 --> 04:13:09,665
It's a perfect,
perfect, perfect blend
5323
04:13:09,689 --> 04:13:11,665
of horror and comedy.
5324
04:13:11,689 --> 04:13:12,976
A lot of people say
"Part 2" 's my favorite,
5325
04:13:13,000 --> 04:13:14,620
and I think that's fantastic.
5326
04:13:17,240 --> 04:13:20,251
I do wish I had
played those roles.
5327
04:13:20,274 --> 04:13:21,527
I do.
5328
04:13:21,550 --> 04:13:23,319
I always say I have
no regrets in life.
5329
04:13:23,343 --> 04:13:24,148
None.
5330
04:13:24,173 --> 04:13:26,182
But I do regret that.
5331
04:13:26,206 --> 04:13:28,137
Even if you're
sad, you gotta eat.
5332
04:13:29,274 --> 04:13:30,906
Isn't that right, Leah?
5333
04:13:30,931 --> 04:13:32,802
Just would have been super cool
5334
04:13:32,826 --> 04:13:35,802
to feel like I had done
the entire franchise.
5335
04:13:35,826 --> 04:13:37,906
I think the series
is empowering.
5336
04:13:37,931 --> 04:13:39,734
I've watched it over 40 years
5337
04:13:39,757 --> 04:13:41,906
grow into this, you know,
5338
04:13:41,931 --> 04:13:44,043
it has a life of its own.
5339
04:13:44,067 --> 04:13:46,665
"Sleepaway Camp" is
so interesting to me.
5340
04:13:46,689 --> 04:13:48,906
I still have so many questions.
5341
04:13:48,931 --> 04:13:50,757
I'm completely cured.
5342
04:13:52,550 --> 04:13:55,240
If I wasn't, they
wouldn't have let me out.
5343
04:14:04,861 --> 04:14:07,112
"Don't Panic" really
feels like it was
5344
04:14:07,137 --> 04:14:09,112
made by a fan for fans.
5345
04:14:09,137 --> 04:14:09,976
One!
5346
04:14:10,000 --> 04:14:11,000
Two!
5347
04:14:12,172 --> 04:14:13,724
Three!
5348
04:14:18,274 --> 04:14:21,734
This 17-year-old boy has a party
5349
04:14:21,757 --> 04:14:24,630
where his friends surprise
him with the Ouija board.
5350
04:14:24,655 --> 04:14:27,665
And if you thought this movie
was about the Ouija board,
5351
04:14:27,689 --> 04:14:29,137
oh you thought wrong.
5352
04:14:34,792 --> 04:14:37,595
In Spanish, "Don't
Panic" was called
5353
04:14:37,620 --> 04:14:41,665
"Dimensiones Ocultas", which
means occult dimensions.
5354
04:14:41,689 --> 04:14:45,043
At that time, the only way
was to shoot in English,
5355
04:14:45,067 --> 04:14:47,240
sell it in the
international markets.
5356
04:14:48,896 --> 04:14:53,251
We tried to hire actors
that were English fluent,
5357
04:14:53,274 --> 04:14:55,240
and that had an
international look.
5358
04:15:00,274 --> 04:15:02,078
Let's look at the
character Michael.
5359
04:15:02,102 --> 04:15:03,769
That's what I call a pullet.
5360
04:15:03,792 --> 04:15:06,251
You have a perm on your mullet.
5361
04:15:06,274 --> 04:15:10,837
And you're wearing dinosaur
pajamas at 17 years old.
5362
04:15:10,861 --> 04:15:11,665
They're after me.
5363
04:15:11,689 --> 04:15:12,563
They're gonna get me.
5364
04:15:12,586 --> 04:15:13,941
Don't worry, baby.
5365
04:15:13,965 --> 04:15:15,620
I won't let anybody hurt you.
5366
04:15:16,757 --> 04:15:19,458
I always get questions
about those pajamas.
5367
04:15:19,481 --> 04:15:21,941
They seem to be the
most memorable aspect
5368
04:15:21,965 --> 04:15:24,251
of "Don't Panic".
5369
04:15:24,274 --> 04:15:25,700
Michael.
5370
04:15:25,724 --> 04:15:28,354
This time you have to stop him.
5371
04:15:28,379 --> 04:15:29,976
Don't fail.
5372
04:15:30,000 --> 04:15:31,424
What the fuck?
5373
04:15:31,448 --> 04:15:35,630
It almost felt like a
medically induced dream fever.
5374
04:15:35,655 --> 04:15:37,481
It was just so out there.
5375
04:15:38,481 --> 04:15:39,481
Hurry!
5376
04:15:42,620 --> 04:15:45,424
Do you believe in Satan?
5377
04:15:45,448 --> 04:15:47,802
Roberto Palazuelos is playing
5378
04:15:47,826 --> 04:15:50,837
the character of
a tough bully guy.
5379
04:15:50,861 --> 04:15:54,043
He goes inside the car,
sticks his head out
5380
04:15:54,067 --> 04:15:55,585
from the window.
5381
04:15:58,413 --> 04:16:01,078
What Screaming Mad
George did for us,
5382
04:16:01,102 --> 04:16:03,286
he made a piece of prosthetic,
5383
04:16:03,309 --> 04:16:06,802
like a retractable
knife inside the mouth.
5384
04:16:06,826 --> 04:16:08,871
And then when he
opened his mouth,
5385
04:16:08,896 --> 04:16:10,630
you could see the blade pop,
5386
04:16:10,655 --> 04:16:12,424
and the blood come
out of the mouth.
5387
04:16:12,448 --> 04:16:14,413
I think it was a very good kill.
5388
04:16:18,413 --> 04:16:20,665
It really became a success
5389
04:16:20,689 --> 04:16:22,700
when video came out.
5390
04:16:22,724 --> 04:16:25,078
And then we started
getting requests
5391
04:16:25,102 --> 04:16:26,493
from all the world.
5392
04:16:26,516 --> 04:16:31,137
We sold it in United Kingdom,
Japan, China, Germany.
5393
04:16:32,000 --> 04:16:32,907
I've gotta save Christie!
5394
04:16:32,932 --> 04:16:34,102
Please listen to me!
5395
04:16:36,965 --> 04:16:40,941
It scared the shit out
of the audience.
5396
04:16:40,965 --> 04:16:44,043
You want to play games?
5397
04:16:44,067 --> 04:16:45,067
Good.
5398
04:16:46,000 --> 04:16:47,033
I like games.
5399
04:16:54,033 --> 04:16:56,309
Say your prayers.
5400
04:16:58,620 --> 04:17:00,217
"Lady in White".
5401
04:17:00,240 --> 04:17:03,561
"Lady in White" is a
particularly strong example
5402
04:17:03,585 --> 04:17:04,976
of gateway horror.
5403
04:17:05,000 --> 04:17:08,043
That was one of the scariest
movies I saw as a kid,
5404
04:17:08,067 --> 04:17:11,424
because it's dealing with
very, very dark material,
5405
04:17:11,448 --> 04:17:13,906
and it's stuff that could
happen in real life.
5406
04:17:13,931 --> 04:17:16,871
The titular lady in
white is a ghost,
5407
04:17:16,896 --> 04:17:19,286
but what this movie
is really about
5408
04:17:19,309 --> 04:17:21,655
is a child killer.
5409
04:17:23,585 --> 04:17:25,976
It was seven years
between "Fear No Evil"
5410
04:17:26,000 --> 04:17:27,837
and "Lady in White"
before I got back
5411
04:17:27,861 --> 04:17:29,078
behind the camera again.
5412
04:17:29,102 --> 04:17:30,837
It was a remarkable experience,
5413
04:17:30,861 --> 04:17:34,043
such a far cry from
"Fear No Evil".
5414
04:17:34,067 --> 04:17:35,976
What I wanted to do this time
5415
04:17:36,000 --> 04:17:37,700
was really try to make something
5416
04:17:37,724 --> 04:17:40,388
that was personal on an
autobiographical level.
5417
04:17:40,413 --> 04:17:43,595
A beautiful story
about what it was like
5418
04:17:43,620 --> 04:17:44,871
growing up in that era,
5419
04:17:44,896 --> 04:17:48,769
and combine it with
this ghost story,
5420
04:17:48,792 --> 04:17:50,527
that drives it thematically,
5421
04:17:50,550 --> 04:17:53,379
and perhaps more
so commercially.
5422
04:17:59,309 --> 04:18:01,906
It's like the most
cinematic version of Halloween
5423
04:18:01,931 --> 04:18:03,043
that you can have.
5424
04:18:03,067 --> 04:18:04,527
It smells like Halloween,
5425
04:18:04,550 --> 04:18:07,871
like you watch that movie,
and it tastes like candy corn.
5426
04:18:07,896 --> 04:18:09,182
The seasonal feel.
5427
04:18:09,206 --> 04:18:10,734
We began during the fall,
5428
04:18:10,757 --> 04:18:13,354
and the moved into
the winter months.
5429
04:18:13,379 --> 04:18:16,147
I wanted a contrast
between the darkness
5430
04:18:16,172 --> 04:18:18,561
that was going to
happen in the film,
5431
04:18:18,585 --> 04:18:21,689
and these beautiful
bucolic moments.
5432
04:18:23,620 --> 04:18:24,871
Hey!
5433
04:18:24,896 --> 04:18:27,010
The first image
that came to mind
5434
04:18:27,033 --> 04:18:29,871
for "Lady in White" was
this image of Frankie
5435
04:18:29,896 --> 04:18:32,102
being locked in the cloakroom.
5436
04:18:34,379 --> 04:18:36,769
Comforted
by their ancient voices,
5437
04:18:36,792 --> 04:18:38,734
and I began to dream.
5438
04:18:38,757 --> 04:18:41,458
Lukas Haas plays
Frankie in this.
5439
04:18:41,481 --> 04:18:42,595
I'd seen him in "Witness",
5440
04:18:42,620 --> 04:18:43,976
I'd seen him in "Testament",
5441
04:18:44,000 --> 04:18:46,067
and I knew that this
kid was extraordinary.
5442
04:18:47,274 --> 04:18:51,493
He had an innate ability
to express his feelings.
5443
04:18:51,516 --> 04:18:53,630
That's what acting's all about.
5444
04:18:53,655 --> 04:18:57,424
Mom used to say sometimes
when someone dies violent,
5445
04:18:57,448 --> 04:18:58,802
they can't rest in peace.
5446
04:18:58,826 --> 04:19:01,251
The story is as much
about a time and place
5447
04:19:01,274 --> 04:19:03,251
as anything else.
5448
04:19:03,274 --> 04:19:04,976
A key character is a black man
5449
04:19:05,000 --> 04:19:07,700
who gets caught in the
madness of what's happening,
5450
04:19:07,724 --> 04:19:09,976
what's going on in that town.
5451
04:19:10,000 --> 04:19:12,424
Dealing with issues of race,
5452
04:19:12,448 --> 04:19:14,078
particular as it
relates to the lady,
5453
04:19:14,102 --> 04:19:16,078
what was going on in that era,
5454
04:19:16,102 --> 04:19:18,769
and being truthful as
to how people spoke,
5455
04:19:18,792 --> 04:19:21,010
how they reacted, how they dealt
5456
04:19:21,033 --> 04:19:22,976
with each other between races.
5457
04:19:23,000 --> 04:19:25,010
I wanted nothing but the truth.
5458
04:19:25,033 --> 04:19:27,286
Harold Williams is
a perfect scapegoat.
5459
04:19:27,309 --> 04:19:28,309
He's black.
5460
04:19:29,585 --> 04:19:32,424
When it comes to pure
cinematic drive and force,
5461
04:19:32,448 --> 04:19:34,826
I think the climax
works beautifully.
5462
04:19:36,413 --> 04:19:38,043
I think that theme of loss
5463
04:19:38,067 --> 04:19:39,286
and coming to terms with loss
5464
04:19:39,309 --> 04:19:42,251
and dealing with
loss is universal.
5465
04:19:42,274 --> 04:19:45,182
My mommy's lost
and I can't find her.
5466
04:19:45,206 --> 04:19:47,388
The "Lady in White",
it fucked me up.
5467
04:19:47,413 --> 04:19:50,182
Seeing it as a kid, in a
way that it just becomes
5468
04:19:50,206 --> 04:19:52,906
like embedded in you,
and become a core memory.
5469
04:19:52,931 --> 04:19:55,251
10-year-old
Melissa N. Montgomery
5470
04:19:55,274 --> 04:19:58,182
was the first victim believed
to have been murdered.
5471
04:19:58,206 --> 04:20:00,319
I'm glad that people
are still discovering
5472
04:20:00,343 --> 04:20:01,343
"Lady in White".
5473
04:20:06,240 --> 04:20:08,251
It continues to remain
somewhat hidden.
5474
04:20:08,274 --> 04:20:09,595
It's fun for me.
5475
04:20:09,620 --> 04:20:11,354
I already told him.
5476
04:20:11,379 --> 04:20:14,000
Her mother is the lady in white.
5477
04:20:23,240 --> 04:20:24,769
I'm awake!
5478
04:20:24,792 --> 04:20:26,286
"Dream Demon".
5479
04:20:26,309 --> 04:20:27,458
"Dream Demon".
5480
04:20:27,481 --> 04:20:29,561
The movie was
about the fine line
5481
04:20:29,585 --> 04:20:31,906
between dreams and reality.
5482
04:20:31,931 --> 04:20:34,837
I think I'm awake, and
then I keep waking up.
5483
04:20:34,861 --> 04:20:36,043
This is crazy.
5484
04:20:36,067 --> 04:20:37,319
You better call that
doctor friend of yours.
5485
04:20:37,343 --> 04:20:39,493
My character was
like a punk rock chick
5486
04:20:39,516 --> 04:20:42,182
connected to this English girl.
5487
04:20:42,206 --> 04:20:43,493
Wake up, Diana!
5488
04:20:43,516 --> 04:20:44,388
Come on!
5489
04:20:44,413 --> 04:20:45,183
Wake up!
5490
04:20:45,207 --> 04:20:46,769
Diana, please!
5491
04:20:46,792 --> 04:20:49,734
Ultimately we realized
that through our dreams
5492
04:20:49,757 --> 04:20:52,802
and in our ability to
crawl into our dreams,
5493
04:20:52,826 --> 04:20:55,585
I think that we
ended up bonding.
5494
04:20:56,481 --> 04:20:57,287
Cheers.
5495
04:20:57,310 --> 04:20:58,424
Now wake up!
5496
04:20:58,448 --> 04:21:00,286
Come on, wake up!
5497
04:21:00,309 --> 04:21:01,148
Wake up!
5498
04:21:01,173 --> 04:21:02,388
Stop!
5499
04:21:02,413 --> 04:21:03,871
I loved working
with Gemma Redgrave.
5500
04:21:03,896 --> 04:21:05,413
She was like my best friend.
5501
04:21:06,516 --> 04:21:07,906
No that's, no that's,
that's very good.
5502
04:21:07,931 --> 04:21:09,757
That's really very good.
5503
04:21:10,931 --> 04:21:13,769
Timothy Spall and Jimmy Nail.
5504
04:21:13,792 --> 04:21:15,700
I remember having
good laughs with them.
5505
04:21:15,724 --> 04:21:17,147
Hey come on, leave her alone.
5506
04:21:17,172 --> 04:21:18,871
What do you think
she is, dog meat?
5507
04:21:18,896 --> 04:21:19,770
Piss off, darling.
5508
04:21:19,793 --> 04:21:20,941
We're the press!
5509
04:21:20,965 --> 04:21:22,724
Oh yeah, well
print this, dickhead!
5510
04:21:23,550 --> 04:21:24,550
It was an adventure,
5511
04:21:25,689 --> 04:21:29,172
some groundbreaking
special effects.
5512
04:21:31,413 --> 04:21:33,837
All of these art director types
5513
04:21:33,861 --> 04:21:36,424
that got to really stretch
out their creativity
5514
04:21:36,448 --> 04:21:39,965
and just be as
gross as possible.
5515
04:21:42,516 --> 04:21:44,286
So I'd be like, huh.
5516
04:21:44,309 --> 04:21:47,206
She's crawling
through slime today.
5517
04:21:51,000 --> 04:21:52,871
The script was peculiar.
5518
04:21:52,896 --> 04:21:54,458
They had so many rewrites,
5519
04:21:54,481 --> 04:21:56,757
and the director
was kind of a nut.
5520
04:21:58,172 --> 04:22:00,424
They wanted me to stand in front
5521
04:22:00,448 --> 04:22:02,769
of these six foot flames.
5522
04:22:02,792 --> 04:22:05,700
It's hot, right?
5523
04:22:05,724 --> 04:22:07,734
The director was like
okay, you're gonna come in
5524
04:22:07,757 --> 04:22:09,734
in front of that
flame, and I'm like,
5525
04:22:09,757 --> 04:22:12,561
how about this, fuck
no I'm not gonna stand
5526
04:22:12,585 --> 04:22:14,871
in front of, and then
he got really mad at me,
5527
04:22:14,896 --> 04:22:16,665
and I was like, I'm not
standing in front of that.
5528
04:22:16,689 --> 04:22:17,769
That is dangerous.
5529
04:22:17,792 --> 04:22:18,871
Forget you.
5530
04:22:18,896 --> 04:22:20,319
You stand in front of it.
5531
04:22:20,343 --> 04:22:21,561
He's like, all right fine!
5532
04:22:21,585 --> 04:22:23,251
He stands in front of it,
5533
04:22:23,274 --> 04:22:25,757
and he singes the
back of his hair.
5534
04:22:28,965 --> 04:22:31,802
I have not worked with
Harley Cokeliss since.
5535
04:22:31,826 --> 04:22:35,757
I don't think I was his
favorite actress.
5536
04:22:37,379 --> 04:22:38,493
Diana!
5537
04:22:38,516 --> 04:22:39,941
The most challenging aspect
5538
04:22:39,965 --> 04:22:41,251
of working on horror films,
5539
04:22:41,274 --> 04:22:43,561
it's me screaming and crying.
5540
04:22:43,585 --> 04:22:48,516
It's me bringing to life my
own personal freaking fear,
5541
04:22:49,965 --> 04:22:51,595
so I guess bringing your
own reality to the screen
5542
04:22:51,620 --> 04:22:53,493
is the trickiest bit.
5543
04:22:53,516 --> 04:22:54,906
But what a blast.
5544
04:22:54,931 --> 04:22:56,112
I'll do it any day of the week.
5545
04:22:56,137 --> 04:22:57,424
Pay me.
5546
04:22:57,448 --> 04:22:58,550
Where's my mark?
5547
04:23:03,585 --> 04:23:04,837
Anybody who thinks
it's a good idea
5548
04:23:04,861 --> 04:23:06,871
to get shaved by a monkey
5549
04:23:06,896 --> 04:23:10,769
needs to reassess
their life plan.
5550
04:23:10,792 --> 04:23:11,976
You're not gonna hurt me.
5551
04:23:12,000 --> 04:23:12,977
I'm part of you.
5552
04:23:13,001 --> 04:23:14,802
"Monkey Shines".
5553
04:23:14,826 --> 04:23:16,941
A leap into terror.
5554
04:23:16,965 --> 04:23:20,112
"Monkey Shines"
is about a mind meld
5555
04:23:20,137 --> 04:23:24,043
between a man, who
suffered a horrible injury,
5556
04:23:24,067 --> 04:23:27,286
and this monkey.
5557
04:23:27,309 --> 04:23:29,010
You're giving me a monkey?
5558
04:23:29,033 --> 04:23:30,700
How am I supposed to
take care of it, Jeff?
5559
04:23:30,724 --> 04:23:32,595
The idea is that it's
gonna take care of you.
5560
04:23:32,620 --> 04:23:34,976
He ends up becoming telepathic
5561
04:23:35,000 --> 04:23:37,424
with this monkey, and
the monkey ends up
5562
04:23:37,448 --> 04:23:39,286
becoming kind of
jealous of the people
5563
04:23:39,309 --> 04:23:41,700
that are close to our main dude.
5564
04:23:41,724 --> 04:23:42,965
Allan-
5565
04:23:46,481 --> 04:23:48,078
And the monkey starts to enact
5566
04:23:48,102 --> 04:23:51,976
a lot of the rage that the
quadriplegic is experiencing,
5567
04:23:52,000 --> 04:23:54,655
and people start to be killed.
5568
04:23:59,448 --> 04:24:01,837
It sounds all very far-fetched,
5569
04:24:01,861 --> 04:24:03,734
but the way that
Romero handles it
5570
04:24:03,757 --> 04:24:06,388
is completely expert,
and a perfect example
5571
04:24:06,413 --> 04:24:08,700
of what a great
filmmaker Romero was,
5572
04:24:08,724 --> 04:24:11,274
even out of the zone of zombies.
5573
04:24:12,620 --> 04:24:14,043
Yeah, yeah.
5574
04:24:14,067 --> 04:24:15,493
I made up a formulation
based on human memory cells.
5575
04:24:15,516 --> 04:24:16,976
I've been injecting
one of my monkeys.
5576
04:24:17,000 --> 04:24:18,976
George sets the tone.
5577
04:24:19,000 --> 04:24:20,286
Come on, give it right here.
5578
04:24:20,309 --> 04:24:21,413
Now, now.
5579
04:24:22,343 --> 04:24:23,252
- Thank you.
- Good girl.
5580
04:24:23,275 --> 04:24:25,000
It was a fun set to be on.
5581
04:24:26,448 --> 04:24:27,665
Jason Beghe.
5582
04:24:27,689 --> 04:24:29,147
I liked Jason a lot.
5583
04:24:29,172 --> 04:24:30,941
He was a very intense guy.
5584
04:24:30,965 --> 04:24:32,078
Don't.
5585
04:24:32,102 --> 04:24:32,941
Do not.
5586
04:24:32,966 --> 04:24:34,206
Don't do it!
5587
04:24:35,379 --> 04:24:36,630
Goddam you, you-
5588
04:24:36,655 --> 04:24:38,424
I think it was a lot
more pressure for him.
5589
04:24:38,448 --> 04:24:41,379
He was carrying
that film, really.
5590
04:24:45,000 --> 04:24:46,112
I love monkeys!
5591
04:24:46,137 --> 04:24:47,665
Monkeys are awesome!
5592
04:24:47,689 --> 04:24:49,976
Well, not so much.
5593
04:24:50,000 --> 04:24:52,655
Kind of scary, really.
5594
04:24:53,861 --> 04:24:56,182
I really wanted to
love the monkeys,
5595
04:24:56,206 --> 04:24:57,941
but truthfully, I
had to really fake
5596
04:24:57,965 --> 04:24:59,354
not being scared.
5597
04:24:59,379 --> 04:25:01,010
Hey, company's here.
5598
04:25:01,033 --> 04:25:01,941
Come on.
5599
04:25:01,966 --> 04:25:03,458
They're very strong.
5600
04:25:03,481 --> 04:25:06,595
In the pivotal scene,
monkey's trying to drug me
5601
04:25:06,620 --> 04:25:09,010
with this hypodermic needle.
5602
04:25:09,033 --> 04:25:11,792
I had to wrestle
with the monkey.
5603
04:25:12,724 --> 04:25:14,182
And a lot of that was a puppet.
5604
04:25:14,206 --> 04:25:16,527
But there was one short time
5605
04:25:16,550 --> 04:25:18,458
where I was actually holding on
5606
04:25:18,481 --> 04:25:19,388
to a real monkey.
5607
04:25:19,413 --> 04:25:20,413
Ella, no!
5608
04:25:24,620 --> 04:25:26,493
I can't say I had a lot
of affection for them.
5609
04:25:26,516 --> 04:25:27,896
But I faked it really well.
5610
04:25:29,172 --> 04:25:30,941
And we had that love scene
5611
04:25:30,965 --> 04:25:33,837
that was one of the
more challenging scenes
5612
04:25:33,861 --> 04:25:35,137
I've ever had to do.
5613
04:25:36,274 --> 04:25:38,906
As a young boy,
watching that sequence
5614
04:25:38,931 --> 04:25:41,802
and wondering about how this guy
5615
04:25:41,826 --> 04:25:44,769
was going to have an
encounter with this woman
5616
04:25:44,792 --> 04:25:45,976
that we knew he liked,
5617
04:25:46,000 --> 04:25:48,147
and the way that happened,
5618
04:25:48,172 --> 04:25:49,976
the harness thing for his bed,
5619
04:25:50,000 --> 04:25:54,976
and this monkey's watching,
like getting angry.
5620
04:25:55,000 --> 04:25:57,067
That movie's messed up, man.
5621
04:25:58,379 --> 04:25:59,493
We were in it together,
5622
04:25:59,516 --> 04:26:00,941
and we got through it.
5623
04:26:00,965 --> 04:26:02,458
I do believe we
drank a little bit
5624
04:26:02,481 --> 04:26:05,458
of champagne during it to relax,
5625
04:26:05,481 --> 04:26:10,319
because it's so hard, these
intimate scenes, you know?
5626
04:26:10,343 --> 04:26:11,792
With a crew.
5627
04:26:13,724 --> 04:26:16,458
It's a scene I'm
actually pretty proud of.
5628
04:26:16,481 --> 04:26:18,182
"Monkey Shines"
is George Romero's
5629
04:26:18,206 --> 04:26:19,665
first studio movie.
5630
04:26:19,689 --> 04:26:22,286
The movie was taken
away from him and recut,
5631
04:26:22,309 --> 04:26:24,826
after he added things
that they asked for.
5632
04:26:26,481 --> 04:26:28,388
The original ending
was much darker,
5633
04:26:28,413 --> 04:26:30,112
and they hated that.
5634
04:26:30,137 --> 04:26:33,286
I wish we could see
George's original vision.
5635
04:26:33,309 --> 04:26:35,700
It's what happens when
you work for a studio.
5636
04:26:35,724 --> 04:26:37,010
The movie's not yours.
5637
04:26:37,033 --> 04:26:40,078
Even if it wasn't
appreciated at the time,
5638
04:26:40,102 --> 04:26:42,630
I think anybody who
appreciates George
5639
04:26:42,655 --> 04:26:45,286
is gonna take another
look at any of his work.
5640
04:26:45,309 --> 04:26:47,000
It's an interesting story.
5641
04:26:48,379 --> 04:26:50,837
It has survived better
than I would have thought
5642
04:26:50,861 --> 04:26:53,000
at the time, that's for sure.
5643
04:27:01,689 --> 04:27:02,976
"Black Roses".
5644
04:27:03,000 --> 04:27:06,976
The hottest band
this side of hell.
5645
04:27:07,000 --> 04:27:08,976
A big heavy metal band is coming
5646
04:27:09,000 --> 04:27:10,802
to do a series of concerts,
5647
04:27:10,826 --> 04:27:13,976
and the parents in the town
are very much against it,
5648
04:27:14,000 --> 04:27:16,620
because you know, rock and
roll leads to the devil.
5649
04:27:17,757 --> 04:27:20,217
The fact that we had
Julie Adams in the movie
5650
04:27:20,240 --> 04:27:22,319
was a thrill for all
of us monster kids,
5651
04:27:22,343 --> 04:27:25,319
because she was in "The
Creature from the Black Lagoon".
5652
04:27:25,343 --> 04:27:28,286
Their satanic music
and subversive lyrics
5653
04:27:28,309 --> 04:27:31,802
threaten to undermine the
very fabric of our society.
5654
04:27:31,826 --> 04:27:33,251
John Fasano.
5655
04:27:33,274 --> 04:27:35,448
We did four movies
in four years.
5656
04:27:36,861 --> 04:27:40,319
John and I had known each
other since elementary school.
5657
04:27:40,343 --> 04:27:42,010
And so now, here
comes the biggest thing
5658
04:27:42,033 --> 04:27:45,286
to hit Mill Basin ever,
and they try to stop it?
5659
04:27:45,309 --> 04:27:46,906
You call that good?
5660
04:27:46,931 --> 04:27:51,010
When the investors saw
the first cut of the film,
5661
04:27:51,033 --> 04:27:53,527
they were like,
it's a little short.
5662
04:27:53,550 --> 04:27:56,792
It needs more monsters,
and more boobs.
5663
04:27:58,516 --> 04:28:01,630
So we shot these
additional sequences.
5664
04:28:01,655 --> 04:28:05,206
I did do some special
effects for the reshoot.
5665
04:28:06,481 --> 04:28:09,700
John wanted her hand
to be starting to look
5666
04:28:09,724 --> 04:28:14,724
like it was changing, so
I sculpted an appliance.
5667
04:28:16,137 --> 04:28:18,319
She's there, and she's sort of
caressing herself like this,
5668
04:28:18,343 --> 04:28:22,172
and I'm just going like,
nobody's looking at that hand.
5669
04:28:26,861 --> 04:28:29,516
Mike Maddi designed
this creature.
5670
04:28:34,033 --> 04:28:35,734
It was like bald, and
had these huge fangs,
5671
04:28:35,757 --> 04:28:39,102
and these long, sinewy
arms, and talons.
5672
04:28:40,585 --> 04:28:44,516
And it took five of us
to work that puppet.
5673
04:28:48,172 --> 04:28:49,595
It's definitely a major leap
5674
04:28:49,620 --> 04:28:52,078
from "Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare"
in terms of the effects.
5675
04:28:52,102 --> 04:28:54,965
The record starts bubbling up.
5676
04:28:57,033 --> 04:28:58,561
What the fuck?
5677
04:28:58,585 --> 04:29:02,000
And then it becomes this
creature that attacks him.
5678
04:29:06,689 --> 04:29:09,078
Probably the best
effect in the movie,
5679
04:29:09,102 --> 04:29:13,734
listening to metal, and metal
inviting in this monster.
5680
04:29:13,757 --> 04:29:16,896
It's clearly playing
on satanic panic.
5681
04:29:21,102 --> 04:29:23,665
Maybe the parents in
the PTA have a point,
5682
04:29:23,689 --> 04:29:25,941
and this is Satan music.
5683
04:29:25,965 --> 04:29:27,137
So that's kind of funny.
5684
04:29:28,137 --> 04:29:29,137
Let's make blood city!
5685
04:29:33,033 --> 04:29:35,388
"Black Roses", yeah the
band actually are from hell.
5686
04:29:35,413 --> 04:29:37,010
What do you know?
5687
04:29:37,033 --> 04:29:38,274
We are the Black Roses.
5688
04:29:39,655 --> 04:29:42,078
The flowers of evil!
5689
04:29:42,102 --> 04:29:44,000
You have been chosen.
5690
04:29:52,896 --> 04:29:54,112
"The Brain".
5691
04:29:54,137 --> 04:29:55,319
What I love about that title
5692
04:29:55,343 --> 04:29:57,388
is that nobody
would second guess
5693
04:29:57,413 --> 04:29:59,217
that a movie called "The Brain"
5694
04:29:59,240 --> 04:30:02,102
is about a brain
that kills people.
5695
04:30:08,792 --> 04:30:12,251
The plot revolves around
this evil scientist
5696
04:30:12,274 --> 04:30:14,388
played by David Gale,
who you might remember
5697
04:30:14,413 --> 04:30:17,147
as the professor
in "Re-Animator".
5698
04:30:17,172 --> 04:30:18,172
I will be famous!
5699
04:30:21,896 --> 04:30:25,527
He runs this TV show
that brainwashes people,
5700
04:30:25,550 --> 04:30:27,561
and gains control of their minds
5701
04:30:27,585 --> 04:30:29,976
with the help of this
weird brain monster,
5702
04:30:30,000 --> 04:30:32,493
and then there's this
rebel high school student,
5703
04:30:32,516 --> 04:30:35,147
who's the only one who
can resist the brain's
5704
04:30:35,172 --> 04:30:37,861
mind controlling power,
and save the day.
5705
04:30:39,481 --> 04:30:40,700
You can go now.
5706
04:30:40,724 --> 04:30:42,010
What the hell happened to me?
5707
04:30:42,033 --> 04:30:44,837
But not without some
horrific hallucinations.
5708
04:30:44,861 --> 04:30:47,010
The protagonist,
he's driving the car,
5709
04:30:47,033 --> 04:30:50,424
and the brain is sort
of taking over his mind.
5710
04:30:50,448 --> 04:30:51,976
I mean, could you imagine that?
5711
04:30:52,000 --> 04:30:53,182
If you're driving a car,
5712
04:30:53,206 --> 04:30:55,309
and then you just see
a video wipe transition
5713
04:30:56,240 --> 04:30:57,724
turn into a brain?
5714
04:30:58,585 --> 04:31:00,000
Holy shit.
5715
04:31:05,792 --> 04:31:07,251
Look at that brain.
5716
04:31:07,274 --> 04:31:08,976
You can't tell how
it moves around.
5717
04:31:09,000 --> 04:31:10,906
All you see is
this enormous face
5718
04:31:10,931 --> 04:31:12,826
coming after people.
5719
04:31:15,343 --> 04:31:18,724
It's kind of scary, but
it's also really funny.
5720
04:31:24,000 --> 04:31:25,217
That's food for thought.
5721
04:31:25,240 --> 04:31:26,837
I mean, you just
look at that thing,
5722
04:31:26,861 --> 04:31:28,689
and you gotta love it.
5723
04:31:30,000 --> 04:31:32,319
So there's this toy and
a cartoon in the 80s
5724
04:31:32,343 --> 04:31:33,941
called Madballs.
5725
04:31:33,965 --> 04:31:35,493
Madballs, Madballs!
5726
04:31:35,516 --> 04:31:37,424
Gross for one, gross for all!
5727
04:31:37,448 --> 04:31:39,043
We play with a Madball!
5728
04:31:39,067 --> 04:31:40,354
They're gross!
5729
04:31:40,379 --> 04:31:41,320
That's what the
brain looks like.
5730
04:31:41,344 --> 04:31:43,965
It's a giant Madball attacking.
5731
04:31:56,620 --> 04:31:59,217
I worked in Madrid
on a wonderful film
5732
04:31:59,240 --> 04:32:00,734
called "Howl of the Devil".
5733
04:32:00,757 --> 04:32:01,976
I love Spain.
5734
04:32:02,000 --> 04:32:03,078
I've done quite a
bit of work in Spain
5735
04:32:03,102 --> 04:32:05,585
with Sinbad, and various things.
5736
04:32:10,000 --> 04:32:12,665
Paul Naschy, both
directing and as an actor
5737
04:32:12,689 --> 04:32:13,596
in his own right.
5738
04:32:13,620 --> 04:32:15,826
He had such presence on camera.
5739
04:32:23,724 --> 04:32:26,931
Menacing presence, but
he was very charismatic.
5740
04:32:34,826 --> 04:32:36,388
And I'd be speaking
English to him,
5741
04:32:36,413 --> 04:32:38,931
and in post, they'd dub him.
5742
04:32:43,965 --> 04:32:45,871
The plot basically was this man,
5743
04:32:45,896 --> 04:32:48,493
by day, he was quite
normal, head of the house,
5744
04:32:48,516 --> 04:32:50,906
and he had his
lovely son, Sergio.
5745
04:32:50,931 --> 04:32:52,906
And I was the maid
that came to clean up,
5746
04:32:52,931 --> 04:32:55,319
and look after the
son, basically.
5747
04:32:55,343 --> 04:32:57,319
But then by night,
he would change
5748
04:32:57,343 --> 04:32:59,493
into these wonderful characters.
5749
04:32:59,516 --> 04:33:03,217
He became Frankenstein,
he became the wolf man.
5750
04:33:03,240 --> 04:33:05,275
These very strange characters.
5751
04:33:12,723 --> 04:33:14,700
Some of the sequences
we had to do
5752
04:33:14,723 --> 04:33:17,319
the man with a
great big chainsaw
5753
04:33:17,344 --> 04:33:19,182
that came running after us.
5754
04:33:19,205 --> 04:33:22,516
No!
5755
04:33:23,931 --> 04:33:25,148
Carmen.
5756
04:33:25,171 --> 04:33:26,802
I liked her, because
she was very proud.
5757
04:33:26,827 --> 04:33:28,734
Quite a holy Catholic lady.
5758
04:33:28,758 --> 04:33:30,871
And then the priest,
who was a lovely
5759
04:33:30,896 --> 04:33:32,448
sweet, sweet actor.
5760
04:33:35,448 --> 04:33:38,067
Was trying to molest
her, to attack her.
5761
04:33:39,585 --> 04:33:41,251
It was quite an emotional
scene, actually, for me.
5762
04:33:41,275 --> 04:33:43,251
And for him, because
he was so upset.
5763
04:33:43,275 --> 04:33:45,044
He spoke English, he
said I'm so sorry,
5764
04:33:45,067 --> 04:33:46,562
he says, so sorry.
5765
04:33:46,585 --> 04:33:48,862
Paul want me to do this,
and I don't want to do it.
5766
04:33:50,000 --> 04:33:51,631
I said, we'll make it
look as good as we can,
5767
04:33:51,654 --> 04:33:54,423
but I might push you
and punch you a bit.
5768
04:33:54,448 --> 04:33:55,388
He said, that's okay.
5769
04:33:55,413 --> 04:33:56,218
He said, I don't mind.
5770
04:33:56,241 --> 04:33:57,769
You do what you do.
5771
04:33:57,793 --> 04:33:59,182
So then we went for it,
5772
04:33:59,205 --> 04:34:02,033
and I managed to get
away from him, basically.
5773
04:34:07,379 --> 04:34:09,871
It felt like one of
my better scenes,
5774
04:34:09,896 --> 04:34:13,079
because she was in a really
state of distress before it,
5775
04:34:13,102 --> 04:34:15,079
and this exacerbated it,
5776
04:34:15,102 --> 04:34:17,067
made it far worse for her.
5777
04:34:21,827 --> 04:34:24,837
Paul was, to me, the
king of Spanish cinema.
5778
04:34:24,862 --> 04:34:25,838
He absolutely was.
5779
04:34:25,863 --> 04:34:27,827
People loved him.
5780
04:34:42,241 --> 04:34:43,734
When we talk about genre,
and we try to put things
5781
04:34:43,758 --> 04:34:46,286
in boxes, one of the ways
we got in trouble very early
5782
04:34:46,310 --> 04:34:49,275
was we conflated a
setting with a feeling.
5783
04:34:50,241 --> 04:34:51,871
Horror is an emotion.
5784
04:34:51,896 --> 04:34:54,251
So you can have a
horror in space.
5785
04:34:54,275 --> 04:34:55,631
You can horror in the old west.
5786
04:34:55,654 --> 04:34:56,906
You can have horror in a comedy.
5787
04:34:56,931 --> 04:35:00,275
It looked like this!
5788
04:35:01,516 --> 04:35:03,526
Horror is about a
feeling that you evoke
5789
04:35:03,550 --> 04:35:04,940
in your audience.
5790
04:35:04,965 --> 04:35:05,965
Lollipops!
5791
04:35:07,862 --> 04:35:11,079
And all free today!
5792
04:35:11,102 --> 04:35:13,079
Horror is a more flexible genre
5793
04:35:13,102 --> 04:35:16,044
than people realize, and
oftentimes it can be found
5794
04:35:16,067 --> 04:35:19,079
hiding within other
genres, nested in there,
5795
04:35:19,102 --> 04:35:21,241
waiting to strike at any moment.
5796
04:35:23,379 --> 04:35:25,148
Fear is always there.
5797
04:35:25,171 --> 04:35:27,700
It's just one decision,
or one thought,
5798
04:35:27,723 --> 04:35:30,769
or one perspective away from
being right in your face.
5799
04:35:30,793 --> 04:35:33,171
Any movie could suddenly
become a horror movie.
5800
04:35:35,275 --> 04:35:36,423
You're dead.
5801
04:35:36,448 --> 04:35:38,217
Horror is catching
you off guard,
5802
04:35:38,241 --> 04:35:40,631
and taking you off
your axis somewhat.
5803
04:35:40,654 --> 04:35:41,654
No!
5804
04:35:48,310 --> 04:35:49,596
The horror has been
a part of our lives,
5805
04:35:49,619 --> 04:35:50,837
new just didn't know it.
5806
04:35:50,862 --> 04:35:52,871
It was dressed up
in fairy tales.
5807
04:35:52,896 --> 04:35:54,286
But it's always
been a part of us,
5808
04:35:54,310 --> 04:35:56,562
because fear and darkness
5809
04:35:56,585 --> 04:35:58,079
is always a part of your life.
5810
04:35:58,102 --> 04:35:59,102
It's part of life.
5811
04:36:00,033 --> 04:36:01,734
Disney goes very dark.
5812
04:36:01,758 --> 04:36:03,631
"Pinocchio", for instance.
5813
04:36:03,654 --> 04:36:05,275
The Pleasure Island scene.
5814
04:36:06,516 --> 04:36:08,906
Bad little boys doing
bad little things,
5815
04:36:08,931 --> 04:36:11,492
smoking cigars, gambling,
5816
04:36:11,516 --> 04:36:13,354
until they turn into donkeys,
5817
04:36:13,379 --> 04:36:14,837
because it's a cautionary tale.
5818
04:36:14,862 --> 04:36:17,492
They're doing the shit they're
not supposed to be doing,
5819
04:36:17,516 --> 04:36:19,136
and they just
start transforming.
5820
04:36:20,241 --> 04:36:21,585
What do I do?
5821
04:36:22,481 --> 04:36:23,526
"Willy Wonka".
5822
04:36:23,550 --> 04:36:25,700
Not a horror movie, per se.
5823
04:36:25,723 --> 04:36:27,388
Does it have horror elements?
5824
04:36:27,413 --> 04:36:29,492
Abso-fucking-lutely.
5825
04:36:29,516 --> 04:36:31,975
Round the world and home again!
5826
04:36:32,000 --> 04:36:33,871
That's the sailor's way!
5827
04:36:33,896 --> 04:36:36,871
The horrific
nightmare boat sequence,
5828
04:36:36,896 --> 04:36:38,596
where he's just staring deadpan,
5829
04:36:38,619 --> 04:36:41,009
and starts singing
that weird song.
5830
04:36:41,033 --> 04:36:44,009
♪ There's no earthly
way of knowing ♪
5831
04:36:44,033 --> 04:36:45,457
He's singing.
5832
04:36:45,481 --> 04:36:47,423
And there's like,
these horrible projection
5833
04:36:47,448 --> 04:36:48,793
that are happening.
5834
04:36:50,862 --> 04:36:53,044
As a child, I was sitting
there watching this
5835
04:36:53,067 --> 04:36:55,286
thinking what the
fuck is happening?
5836
04:36:55,310 --> 04:36:56,734
Now I am gonna be sick!
5837
04:36:56,758 --> 04:36:58,354
Never mind the fact
that these children
5838
04:36:58,379 --> 04:37:00,457
are just getting
offed, one by one.
5839
04:37:00,481 --> 04:37:02,379
It's kind of like
a slasher movie.
5840
04:37:03,205 --> 04:37:04,631
She was a bad egg.
5841
04:37:04,654 --> 04:37:07,562
I seem to find horror
in every film I see
5842
04:37:07,585 --> 04:37:09,481
at some point.
5843
04:37:10,827 --> 04:37:13,354
Any time you're writing
interesting characters,
5844
04:37:13,379 --> 04:37:14,734
they're gonna have a dark side,
5845
04:37:14,758 --> 04:37:17,492
and so if you get some
people with problems,
5846
04:37:17,516 --> 04:37:19,802
and issues, and
anger, and stuff,
5847
04:37:19,827 --> 04:37:22,388
then you have a
dangerous situation,
5848
04:37:22,413 --> 04:37:24,516
and that's scary.
5849
04:37:26,241 --> 04:37:28,044
We might not call
"Blue Velvet" horror,
5850
04:37:28,067 --> 04:37:30,113
but I do know it was
covered in Fangoria.
5851
04:37:30,136 --> 04:37:31,906
David Lynch is bouncing
in and out of horror
5852
04:37:31,931 --> 04:37:33,388
throughout all of his films,
5853
04:37:33,413 --> 04:37:35,182
and I think horror fans,
5854
04:37:35,205 --> 04:37:36,596
our antenna perked up.
5855
04:37:36,619 --> 04:37:39,009
It delivers horror
probably more effectively
5856
04:37:39,033 --> 04:37:41,596
than half the movies sitting
in the horror section
5857
04:37:41,619 --> 04:37:42,688
at the video store.
5858
04:37:44,688 --> 04:37:45,906
The severed ear moment.
5859
04:37:45,931 --> 04:37:47,044
The camera moves in.
5860
04:37:47,067 --> 04:37:47,976
There's ants on it.
5861
04:37:48,001 --> 04:37:49,906
It's incredibly graphic.
5862
04:37:49,931 --> 04:37:51,481
That's a pure horror moment.
5863
04:37:53,965 --> 04:37:55,665
Don't you fucking look at me!
5864
04:37:55,688 --> 04:37:58,492
Frank Booth is one of
the great horror villains.
5865
04:37:58,516 --> 04:38:01,457
He was terrifying, because
he was unpredictable.
5866
04:38:01,481 --> 04:38:04,113
He was a madman,
and it felt unsafe
5867
04:38:04,136 --> 04:38:06,354
in a way that by, say, 1986,
5868
04:38:06,379 --> 04:38:08,136
a lot of our movie
slashers didn't.
5869
04:38:09,344 --> 04:38:11,457
Does horror even
need to be scary?
5870
04:38:11,481 --> 04:38:13,734
It just has to disturb
you in some kind of way.
5871
04:38:13,758 --> 04:38:14,975
What's cool about the 1980s
5872
04:38:15,000 --> 04:38:17,286
is horror was so
big, that it actually
5873
04:38:17,310 --> 04:38:19,516
infiltrated other genres.
5874
04:38:20,448 --> 04:38:22,871
Ow!
5875
04:38:22,896 --> 04:38:24,217
I'm glad to see
you finally made it
5876
04:38:24,241 --> 04:38:25,906
to the suburbs, bitch!
5877
04:38:25,931 --> 04:38:28,388
My first horror
film, "Return to Oz".
5878
04:38:28,413 --> 04:38:30,562
It's like mombie
taking her heads off,
5879
04:38:30,585 --> 04:38:32,000
screaming, the wheelers.
5880
04:38:34,205 --> 04:38:35,423
Come here!
5881
04:38:35,448 --> 04:38:37,319
It can be a character,
5882
04:38:37,344 --> 04:38:39,665
like one person in that
film brings the horror.
5883
04:38:39,688 --> 04:38:41,654
The judge in "Roger
Rabbit", right?
5884
04:38:42,585 --> 04:38:44,079
When I killed your brother,
5885
04:38:44,102 --> 04:38:46,102
I talked just like this!
5886
04:38:49,067 --> 04:38:51,182
"Indiana Jones and
the Temple of Doom",
5887
04:38:51,205 --> 04:38:55,286
looking as a human hand
plunged into the chest
5888
04:38:55,310 --> 04:38:58,113
of a sacrificial victim,
and the beating heart
5889
04:38:58,136 --> 04:38:59,354
was ripped out.
5890
04:38:59,379 --> 04:39:02,906
This horrifying
ritual really held
5891
04:39:02,931 --> 04:39:04,550
all the elements of horror.
5892
04:39:09,344 --> 04:39:11,113
A movie that scared
the crap out of me
5893
04:39:11,136 --> 04:39:13,793
when I was little was "The Wiz".
5894
04:39:18,688 --> 04:39:20,837
My favorite movie of all
time was "Wizard of Oz",
5895
04:39:20,862 --> 04:39:22,251
which is also pretty scary.
5896
04:39:22,275 --> 04:39:23,286
You know, you get to
those winged monkeys,
5897
04:39:23,310 --> 04:39:25,033
and it's like, terror.
5898
04:39:27,758 --> 04:39:28,665
Help, help!
5899
04:39:28,688 --> 04:39:29,688
Help!
5900
04:39:30,862 --> 04:39:33,148
"The Dark Crystal",
"The Black Cauldron",
5901
04:39:33,171 --> 04:39:35,286
like animation, horror.
5902
04:39:35,310 --> 04:39:36,734
The field.
5903
04:39:36,758 --> 04:39:38,758
It's covered with blood.
5904
04:39:42,862 --> 04:39:44,906
These movies have
elements of horror,
5905
04:39:44,931 --> 04:39:46,413
and that's what we grew up on.
5906
04:39:48,585 --> 04:39:51,700
The psyche can do crazy
things to you, as well.
5907
04:39:51,723 --> 04:39:53,148
Your thoughts can
turn dark on you,
5908
04:39:53,171 --> 04:39:55,526
and that's also scary,
and a person that you know
5909
04:39:55,550 --> 04:39:57,837
can change on you,
and that's scary.
5910
04:39:57,862 --> 04:39:59,251
Aging is scary.
5911
04:39:59,275 --> 04:40:00,734
Dreams are scary.
5912
04:40:00,758 --> 04:40:01,632
The dark is scary.
5913
04:40:01,655 --> 04:40:03,388
There's dark everyday.
5914
04:40:03,413 --> 04:40:06,182
It's gonna get dark everyday.
5915
04:40:06,205 --> 04:40:07,585
It's gonna get scary.
5916
04:40:08,654 --> 04:40:09,458
Wait!
5917
04:40:09,483 --> 04:40:10,492
Ow!
5918
04:40:10,516 --> 04:40:14,769
Get away!
5919
04:40:14,793 --> 04:40:16,000
Horror is everywhere.
5920
04:40:17,102 --> 04:40:18,102
It's everywhere.
5921
04:40:30,688 --> 04:40:33,940
"Things" a horrifying sensation
5922
04:40:33,965 --> 04:40:36,837
that'll rip apart your soul.
5923
04:40:36,862 --> 04:40:39,700
A lot of people know
that Canadian horror movies
5924
04:40:39,723 --> 04:40:41,700
are Canadian just because
they're in English,
5925
04:40:41,723 --> 04:40:44,148
so they get lumped in
with American ones,
5926
04:40:44,171 --> 04:40:45,354
but don't be fooled.
5927
04:40:45,379 --> 04:40:46,837
Just because Canadians
have a reputation
5928
04:40:46,862 --> 04:40:49,079
for being polite doesn't
mean our horror movies are.
5929
04:40:49,102 --> 04:40:51,457
Canada actually made a
lot of slasher movies
5930
04:40:51,481 --> 04:40:52,906
in the 80s, which
is appropriate,
5931
04:40:52,931 --> 04:40:54,354
because we helped
start the genre
5932
04:40:54,379 --> 04:40:57,136
with the original "Black
Christmas" back in the 70s.
5933
04:40:58,688 --> 04:41:00,481
Why should America
have all the fun?
5934
04:41:01,654 --> 04:41:03,837
In addition to all those
great slasher movies,
5935
04:41:03,862 --> 04:41:06,802
Canada was also responsible
for making this movie
5936
04:41:06,827 --> 04:41:08,906
called "Things",
which has been called
5937
04:41:08,931 --> 04:41:11,171
one of the worst
movies ever made.
5938
04:41:16,205 --> 04:41:17,492
Oh no!
5939
04:41:17,516 --> 04:41:18,837
What did I do?
5940
04:41:18,862 --> 04:41:21,423
These two idiots sit
around and drink beer
5941
04:41:21,448 --> 04:41:23,769
for a little bit, and
then all of a sudden,
5942
04:41:23,793 --> 04:41:26,793
these weird ant thingies
invade their home.
5943
04:41:30,033 --> 04:41:31,734
Oh my god!
5944
04:41:31,758 --> 04:41:32,758
Susan!
5945
04:41:33,619 --> 04:41:35,700
It's not a horror comedy,
5946
04:41:35,723 --> 04:41:37,975
but I'd be hard pressed
to find something funnier,
5947
04:41:38,000 --> 04:41:39,862
because it's fucking terrible.
5948
04:41:46,516 --> 04:41:49,975
The whole thing has a very
home movie quality to it.
5949
04:41:50,000 --> 04:41:52,354
Everything looks homemade,
like the little ants
5950
04:41:52,379 --> 04:41:54,596
looks like they're made
out of paper mache,
5951
04:41:54,619 --> 04:41:56,906
the blood looks like
they mixed food coloring
5952
04:41:56,931 --> 04:41:58,148
and corn syrup.
5953
04:41:58,171 --> 04:42:00,665
Mm, that's human
blood, all right.
5954
04:42:00,688 --> 04:42:03,286
"Things" might just
be the most Canadian
5955
04:42:03,310 --> 04:42:05,148
movie ever made, and
I don't just mean
5956
04:42:05,171 --> 04:42:06,906
most Canadian horror movie,
5957
04:42:06,931 --> 04:42:10,423
I mean the most
Canadian movie, period.
5958
04:42:10,448 --> 04:42:11,448
Oh thanks, man.
5959
04:42:12,205 --> 04:42:13,388
You can practically smell
5960
04:42:13,413 --> 04:42:15,354
the half empty Molson bottles,
5961
04:42:15,379 --> 04:42:17,562
watching this movie.
5962
04:42:17,585 --> 04:42:21,182
Blood is just dripping
like maple syrup!
5963
04:42:21,205 --> 04:42:22,734
The big selling
point for "Things"
5964
04:42:22,758 --> 04:42:25,596
is that Ginger Lynn is in
it, the famous porn star.
5965
04:42:25,619 --> 04:42:27,286
But when you see the
movie, she's not doing
5966
04:42:27,310 --> 04:42:29,319
anything porn related.
5967
04:42:29,344 --> 04:42:31,492
She's like a newscaster
for, I don't know,
5968
04:42:31,516 --> 04:42:33,423
30 seconds at the
beginning of the movie.
5969
04:42:33,448 --> 04:42:34,975
They probably took
whatever budget they had
5970
04:42:35,000 --> 04:42:36,734
and gave her half of it,
5971
04:42:36,758 --> 04:42:38,550
so what, two grand maybe.
5972
04:42:40,585 --> 04:42:42,734
At the end of the
movie, they start killing
5973
04:42:42,758 --> 04:42:44,665
these weird ant things
with a chainsaw,
5974
04:42:44,688 --> 04:42:46,492
and spraying fake
blood everywhere.
5975
04:42:46,516 --> 04:42:47,802
I really hope the
guys who made it
5976
04:42:47,827 --> 04:42:49,906
got their damage deposit
back on the place
5977
04:42:49,931 --> 04:42:51,241
they were staying.
5978
04:42:53,275 --> 04:42:54,252
But now that everyone seems
5979
04:42:54,276 --> 04:42:56,354
to be talking about it again,
5980
04:42:56,379 --> 04:43:01,379
do I dare subject myself to
the ridiculosity of "Things"?
5981
04:43:02,550 --> 04:43:04,241
I'll be okay!
5982
04:43:14,136 --> 04:43:16,769
The situation in
Venice is now critical.
5983
04:43:16,793 --> 04:43:19,286
A giant toxic cloud has
settled over the city,
5984
04:43:19,310 --> 04:43:21,562
and is slowly destroying
every form of life.
5985
04:43:21,585 --> 04:43:23,769
I'm in an infamous movie
5986
04:43:23,793 --> 04:43:25,700
that has several
different titles.
5987
04:43:25,723 --> 04:43:28,009
"Shocking Dark",
AKA "Terminator",
5988
04:43:28,033 --> 04:43:29,585
or da-da-da-da-da.
5989
04:43:31,000 --> 04:43:34,354
The movie originally was
called "Shocking Magenta".
5990
04:43:34,379 --> 04:43:35,596
How are you gonna
translate that?
5991
04:43:35,619 --> 04:43:37,113
That doesn't work
in any language.
5992
04:43:37,136 --> 04:43:38,217
That's not the only name
5993
04:43:38,241 --> 04:43:39,769
it's called "Contaminator".
5994
04:43:39,793 --> 04:43:42,217
"The Killers of Venice Beach".
5995
04:43:42,241 --> 04:43:44,631
It has lots of names,
and that has something
5996
04:43:44,654 --> 04:43:45,940
to do with distribution.
5997
04:43:45,965 --> 04:43:48,975
Venice before the year 2000.
5998
04:43:49,000 --> 04:43:51,596
"Shocking Dark" is a
movie where the filmmakers
5999
04:43:51,619 --> 04:43:55,009
attempt to warn
people of the hazards
6000
04:43:55,033 --> 04:43:57,182
of industrial pollution.
6001
04:43:57,205 --> 04:43:59,931
Fear fighting
against the unknown.
6002
04:44:00,862 --> 04:44:02,009
Hurry!
6003
04:44:02,033 --> 04:44:04,009
They're coming, they're coming!
6004
04:44:04,033 --> 04:44:06,251
My character in "Shocking Dark"
6005
04:44:06,275 --> 04:44:07,975
is Lieutenant Koster,
6006
04:44:08,000 --> 04:44:11,148
and I'm telling all
these guys what to do.
6007
04:44:11,171 --> 04:44:13,217
All right, you bunch of pussies!
6008
04:44:13,241 --> 04:44:16,217
I'm back, and I'm kicking ass!
6009
04:44:16,241 --> 04:44:18,734
And I'm not politically
correct about it,
6010
04:44:18,758 --> 04:44:21,009
and I don't care,
but it's because
6011
04:44:21,033 --> 04:44:22,457
they're my guys.
6012
04:44:22,481 --> 04:44:23,389
Careful, baby.
6013
04:44:23,414 --> 04:44:24,871
That thing just might go off!
6014
04:44:24,896 --> 04:44:27,354
They're sending us into
the depths of Venice.
6015
04:44:27,379 --> 04:44:30,009
My impression is
they're gonna find out
6016
04:44:30,033 --> 04:44:33,148
it's a creature
from another planet.
6017
04:44:33,171 --> 04:44:35,631
I can't say that
was exactly the plot
6018
04:44:35,654 --> 04:44:37,862
when I started the movie.
6019
04:44:38,827 --> 04:44:40,448
And they're waiting for you!
6020
04:44:42,723 --> 04:44:43,632
Who are they?
6021
04:44:43,655 --> 04:44:44,837
What are you talking about?
6022
04:44:44,862 --> 04:44:46,906
It's a sandwich
that didn't even have
6023
04:44:46,931 --> 04:44:48,044
a whole loaf of bread.
6024
04:44:48,067 --> 04:44:50,251
So it starts out pumpernickel,
6025
04:44:50,275 --> 04:44:52,251
and then it ends up a brioche,
6026
04:44:52,275 --> 04:44:54,286
and then it's a slice of pizza.
6027
04:44:54,310 --> 04:44:56,793
Can't you smell
that stink of shit?
6028
04:44:59,688 --> 04:45:00,906
The creatures in
"Shocking Dark".
6029
04:45:00,931 --> 04:45:03,354
I have been told
they remind people
6030
04:45:03,379 --> 04:45:05,319
of the creature from "Alien",
6031
04:45:05,344 --> 04:45:07,079
but when I was in the movie,
6032
04:45:07,102 --> 04:45:08,562
and as the movie was told to me,
6033
04:45:08,585 --> 04:45:10,319
by the director, Bruno Mattei,
6034
04:45:10,344 --> 04:45:12,354
he intended it to be more
6035
04:45:12,379 --> 04:45:14,654
of "The Creature From
the Black Lagoon".
6036
04:45:18,516 --> 04:45:20,769
We're chemically dumping in
the waters around Venice,
6037
04:45:20,793 --> 04:45:24,596
so originally the
concept was this thing,
6038
04:45:24,619 --> 04:45:25,975
maybe it got radiated,
6039
04:45:26,000 --> 04:45:28,171
because that's what they
were kind of thinking.
6040
04:45:29,516 --> 04:45:31,275
Something wraps around my neck.
6041
04:45:34,827 --> 04:45:36,079
Go back and watch carefully.
6042
04:45:36,102 --> 04:45:37,802
So this hand is going oh, oh,
6043
04:45:37,827 --> 04:45:39,906
and this hand from
below is wrapping around
6044
04:45:39,931 --> 04:45:42,319
my own neck, and
I'm going like that.
6045
04:45:42,344 --> 04:45:43,975
So every time
somebody says to me
6046
04:45:44,000 --> 04:45:46,492
it's a ripoff of "Alien"
and "Terminator",
6047
04:45:46,516 --> 04:45:48,906
I go not if you're
holding the rubber mask
6048
04:45:48,931 --> 04:45:50,379
with your own hand
6049
04:45:54,413 --> 04:45:56,113
"Shocking Dark" is
such a shameless ripoff
6050
04:45:56,136 --> 04:45:57,940
of so many other things
that it was legally not
6051
04:45:57,965 --> 04:46:00,688
able to be released in
the States for many years.
6052
04:46:03,688 --> 04:46:05,562
This is the end of the line.
6053
04:46:05,585 --> 04:46:07,009
You look at movies by guys
6054
04:46:07,033 --> 04:46:08,286
like Bruno Mattei,
and you think it was
6055
04:46:08,310 --> 04:46:10,700
probably a pretty
good party onset.
6056
04:46:10,723 --> 04:46:12,388
End of the line.
6057
04:46:12,413 --> 04:46:13,700
Maybe as long as the
filmmakers are having
6058
04:46:13,723 --> 04:46:15,148
a great time, you
hope it bleeds through
6059
04:46:15,171 --> 04:46:16,688
to the screen.
6060
04:46:22,413 --> 04:46:25,871
Bruno Mattei was by
no means kidding himself
6061
04:46:25,896 --> 04:46:28,388
of where he was in
the film industry.
6062
04:46:28,413 --> 04:46:30,275
And he's in on the joke.
6063
04:46:36,344 --> 04:46:38,319
I worked on two movies with him,
6064
04:46:38,344 --> 04:46:40,526
and he was always
up against a budget,
6065
04:46:40,550 --> 04:46:42,388
and he never took it badly,
6066
04:46:42,413 --> 04:46:44,631
he was never in a bad mood,
6067
04:46:44,654 --> 04:46:46,044
and he was a lot of fun.
6068
04:46:46,067 --> 04:46:46,907
I miss him.
6069
04:46:46,932 --> 04:46:48,205
I miss him a great deal.
6070
04:46:54,102 --> 04:46:57,769
A new film
by Alejandro Jodorowsky.
6071
04:46:57,793 --> 04:46:59,310
"Santa Sangre".
6072
04:47:01,448 --> 04:47:05,354
"Santa Sangre" is a
Felini-esque kind of nightmare
6073
04:47:05,379 --> 04:47:09,286
from the perverted mind
of Alejandro Jodorowsky.
6074
04:47:09,310 --> 04:47:12,079
It's just saturated with blood,
6075
04:47:12,102 --> 04:47:16,700
circus carnage, crazy
cults, skin, surrealism,
6076
04:47:16,723 --> 04:47:19,000
and enough symbolism to
send you to a shrink.
6077
04:47:24,723 --> 04:47:26,009
Now you're a man.
6078
04:47:26,033 --> 04:47:28,940
It is an absolute masterpiece.
6079
04:47:28,965 --> 04:47:32,665
Jodorowsky, he was approached
by Dario Argento's brother,
6080
04:47:32,688 --> 04:47:34,700
Claudio, to make a movie.
6081
04:47:34,723 --> 04:47:36,596
It was essentially,
I need you to make
6082
04:47:36,619 --> 04:47:39,665
a Dario Argento movie, but
by Alejandro Jodorowsky.
6083
04:47:39,688 --> 04:47:42,802
Well, he ended up
taking it way further
6084
04:47:42,827 --> 04:47:43,975
into the direction
of Jodorowsky,
6085
04:47:44,000 --> 04:47:46,241
and making something
entirely unique.
6086
04:47:48,344 --> 04:47:50,665
Sure, it's painted
in a horror movie,
6087
04:47:50,688 --> 04:47:52,354
but it's a coming of age story
6088
04:47:52,379 --> 04:47:56,275
about a boy growing up in
a circus freak setting,
6089
04:47:57,481 --> 04:47:59,700
that really shows the
streets of Mexico City
6090
04:47:59,723 --> 04:48:01,217
in a different light.
6091
04:48:01,241 --> 04:48:03,113
There's something so special
about all these characters,
6092
04:48:03,136 --> 04:48:05,562
being in makeup, being
in their costumes,
6093
04:48:05,585 --> 04:48:08,182
and that's how they are
every day of their lives,
6094
04:48:08,205 --> 04:48:10,492
and actually also
something very sad
6095
04:48:10,516 --> 04:48:11,965
about that, too.
6096
04:48:18,310 --> 04:48:20,217
That that is the identity
of these characters.
6097
04:48:20,241 --> 04:48:22,871
That is the way that
people see them as,
6098
04:48:22,896 --> 04:48:26,654
as clowns, as
performers, as freaks.
6099
04:48:28,481 --> 04:48:30,113
It just shows such a truth,
6100
04:48:30,136 --> 04:48:32,492
not just in Mexico,
but it shows a truth
6101
04:48:32,516 --> 04:48:34,481
of how easy we are judgmental.
6102
04:48:36,862 --> 04:48:38,906
There's so many
scenes in that film
6103
04:48:38,931 --> 04:48:41,148
I did not expect to
continue to escalate,
6104
04:48:41,171 --> 04:48:42,837
to go oh my god!
6105
04:48:42,862 --> 04:48:43,666
Oh my god!
6106
04:48:43,689 --> 04:48:45,241
Ugh!
6107
04:48:46,481 --> 04:48:48,217
The dad, the owner
of this circus,
6108
04:48:48,241 --> 04:48:50,975
just has an affair,
spoiler alert,
6109
04:48:51,000 --> 04:48:53,113
cuts this woman's arms off,
6110
04:48:53,136 --> 04:48:54,769
and it's like what the!
6111
04:48:54,793 --> 04:48:56,758
It's insane!
6112
04:48:58,758 --> 04:49:00,492
The wonderful
character of Conchita,
6113
04:49:00,516 --> 04:49:02,217
and you just see how her arms
6114
04:49:02,241 --> 04:49:03,734
get completely cut off,
6115
04:49:03,758 --> 04:49:05,526
blood pouring out of her arms,
6116
04:49:05,550 --> 04:49:08,413
and how she's just
looking at the sky, at us.
6117
04:49:10,550 --> 04:49:12,044
The one-two punch
of attacking them
6118
04:49:12,067 --> 04:49:14,148
during sex and
throwing acid on them,
6119
04:49:14,171 --> 04:49:16,975
and then getting both
of her arms chopped off,
6120
04:49:17,000 --> 04:49:19,182
with beautiful
Simon Boswell music
6121
04:49:19,205 --> 04:49:20,149
playing in the background.
6122
04:49:20,172 --> 04:49:22,319
That's hard to equal in cinema,
6123
04:49:22,344 --> 04:49:24,033
let alone in this movie.
6124
04:49:28,965 --> 04:49:29,975
And from that point on,
6125
04:49:30,000 --> 04:49:32,526
to see our main character
6126
04:49:32,550 --> 04:49:36,423
trying to find acceptance,
love, and freedom
6127
04:49:36,448 --> 04:49:40,319
of his own demons,
how he now is trapped
6128
04:49:40,344 --> 04:49:42,596
to be his own mother's arms,
6129
04:49:42,619 --> 04:49:44,871
speaks to such a sadness,
6130
04:49:44,896 --> 04:49:47,079
and such a truth
of manipulation.
6131
04:49:47,102 --> 04:49:49,448
It just completely
breaks my heart,
6132
04:49:50,413 --> 04:49:52,275
and grosses me out
6133
04:49:56,862 --> 04:49:58,388
"Santa Sangre" was
not afraid to talk
6134
04:49:58,413 --> 04:50:00,700
about the problems of machismo,
6135
04:50:00,723 --> 04:50:04,734
the class system, and just
the difference in cultures
6136
04:50:04,758 --> 04:50:06,940
with the Americanos
and the Mexicans,
6137
04:50:06,965 --> 04:50:08,148
and all from the point of view
6138
04:50:08,171 --> 04:50:09,423
of an innocent child.
6139
04:50:09,448 --> 04:50:11,631
That corruption,
that manipulation,
6140
04:50:11,654 --> 04:50:14,700
how sex and violence can
really, really change
6141
04:50:14,723 --> 04:50:18,379
a child's life, that
movie is true horror.
6142
04:50:36,793 --> 04:50:38,631
For "Fright Night",
I had no sense
6143
04:50:38,654 --> 04:50:40,217
of what is was going to become.
6144
04:50:40,241 --> 04:50:42,631
I thought it was a fun movie,
6145
04:50:42,654 --> 04:50:43,940
it was creative,
and it was gonna be
6146
04:50:43,965 --> 04:50:46,423
a little bitty horror
movie for that summer.
6147
04:50:46,448 --> 04:50:49,837
Really special experience, and
the longer I'm away from it,
6148
04:50:49,862 --> 04:50:52,379
the more I realize that.
6149
04:50:53,619 --> 04:50:54,837
"Fright Night 2".
6150
04:50:54,862 --> 04:50:56,275
♪ Take me baby
6151
04:50:59,000 --> 04:51:00,802
"Fright Night 2",
Tommy Lee Wallace
6152
04:51:00,827 --> 04:51:02,182
did a terrific job.
6153
04:51:02,205 --> 04:51:03,631
I wasn't available.
6154
04:51:03,654 --> 04:51:06,596
Instead I did "Fatal Beauty"
with Whoopi Goldberg.
6155
04:51:06,619 --> 04:51:08,550
I should have done
"Fright Night 2".
6156
04:51:10,136 --> 04:51:11,802
Johnny.
6157
04:51:11,827 --> 04:51:13,354
Peter.
6158
04:51:13,379 --> 04:51:14,413
It's happening again.
6159
04:51:16,067 --> 04:51:19,113
"Fright Night 2" was
really more about the modern
6160
04:51:19,136 --> 04:51:20,975
80s age, when people
were really starting
6161
04:51:21,000 --> 04:51:25,665
to experiment and to be curious
about cultures and people.
6162
04:51:25,688 --> 04:51:29,379
I give you the new host
of Fright Night, Regine!
6163
04:51:31,793 --> 04:51:33,286
From Regine's point of view,
6164
04:51:33,310 --> 04:51:37,067
my only brother, the love
of my life, was murdered.
6165
04:51:40,136 --> 04:51:42,550
And I am 2000 years old.
6166
04:51:43,413 --> 04:51:44,413
Uh, come in.
6167
04:51:45,136 --> 04:51:46,044
Thanks.
6168
04:51:46,068 --> 04:51:48,769
I find Charlie Brewster,
6169
04:51:48,793 --> 04:51:52,585
and I play with him like a
cat playing with a mouse.
6170
04:51:54,000 --> 04:51:58,286
Julie as Regine was breaking
the glass ceiling in a way.
6171
04:51:58,310 --> 04:51:59,413
This is not a dream.
6172
04:52:01,862 --> 04:52:05,631
"Fright Night Part 2"
is a lot about inverting
6173
04:52:05,654 --> 04:52:08,940
the sexual and
gender stereotypes
6174
04:52:08,965 --> 04:52:12,802
that had traditionally been
part of the vampire genre.
6175
04:52:12,827 --> 04:52:15,492
She was taking ownership
of lust and power
6176
04:52:15,516 --> 04:52:18,871
and hunger and
all of that stuff,
6177
04:52:18,896 --> 04:52:20,758
and she feminized it.
6178
04:52:25,241 --> 04:52:29,769
I think Regine is empowering
for women in general,
6179
04:52:29,793 --> 04:52:31,837
and for Latinas.
6180
04:52:31,862 --> 04:52:36,862
There's an eroticism that is
beyond gender identification.
6181
04:52:38,275 --> 04:52:42,585
Regine Dandridge, it was very
open to love and sensuality.
6182
04:52:47,793 --> 04:52:52,009
She's not just a stark,
startling character.
6183
04:52:52,033 --> 04:52:56,379
She's cushy, and
warm, and you know.
6184
04:52:58,033 --> 04:53:00,310
Is it hot in here?
6185
04:53:04,205 --> 04:53:06,079
You'll have to get
closer than that.
6186
04:53:06,102 --> 04:53:10,286
Peter Vincent was Roddy
McDowall's love letter
6187
04:53:10,310 --> 04:53:13,596
to the vampire
hunters of the past.
6188
04:53:13,619 --> 04:53:15,550
Peter Cushing, Vincent Price.
6189
04:53:17,379 --> 04:53:18,734
Roddy was a photographer,
6190
04:53:18,758 --> 04:53:20,769
so he was always
taking pictures.
6191
04:53:20,793 --> 04:53:23,354
He was into documenting stuff.
6192
04:53:23,379 --> 04:53:27,148
Encyclopedia of movie history.
6193
04:53:27,171 --> 04:53:29,975
He knew where the
bodies were buried.
6194
04:53:30,000 --> 04:53:34,079
I kill vampires.
6195
04:53:34,102 --> 04:53:35,492
It was a different movie,
6196
04:53:35,516 --> 04:53:37,802
it was like an army
of ghouls and vampires
6197
04:53:37,827 --> 04:53:40,931
and creatures that we
were up against this time.
6198
04:53:42,688 --> 04:53:44,975
Russel Clark played Belle,
6199
04:53:45,000 --> 04:53:47,344
a wraith-like vampire
on roller skates.
6200
04:53:49,241 --> 04:53:52,044
Those three characters,
Jonathan Gries,
6201
04:53:52,067 --> 04:53:54,286
Brian Thompson, and Russel,
6202
04:53:54,310 --> 04:53:57,562
they're all so
distinctive and unique
6203
04:53:57,585 --> 04:54:00,413
in the characters that
they came up with.
6204
04:54:02,585 --> 04:54:05,448
I have an entourage
of fabulous men.
6205
04:54:08,516 --> 04:54:11,769
Russel Clarke, he had
choreographed Michael Jackson,
6206
04:54:11,793 --> 04:54:15,148
and Brian Thompson
came up with the naming
6207
04:54:15,171 --> 04:54:19,241
all of these bugs with
their Latin names.
6208
04:54:26,000 --> 04:54:29,448
There's just a scholarliness
to this foursome.
6209
04:54:31,171 --> 04:54:33,000
Are you thirsty, Charlie?
6210
04:54:34,448 --> 04:54:37,526
Once I started
transitioning into a vampire,
6211
04:54:37,550 --> 04:54:39,457
I enjoyed getting to fang up
6212
04:54:39,481 --> 04:54:42,113
and get pasty, and
all that stuff.
6213
04:54:42,136 --> 04:54:44,113
I had my Christmas
cards that year
6214
04:54:44,136 --> 04:54:49,136
were me in a vampire, sort
of holiday vampire theme.
6215
04:54:50,793 --> 04:54:52,906
"Fright Night 2"
resonates with people,
6216
04:54:52,931 --> 04:54:54,286
there's something
for everyone in it.
6217
04:54:54,310 --> 04:54:56,871
And everyone's kind of
represented, especially today.
6218
04:54:56,896 --> 04:54:59,275
You notice if someone's
not represented now.
6219
04:55:00,413 --> 04:55:02,700
It shocked people that somebody
6220
04:55:02,723 --> 04:55:05,182
would break the rules
as much as we did,
6221
04:55:05,205 --> 04:55:08,286
even though it made more
money at the box office
6222
04:55:08,310 --> 04:55:11,182
than anything else that
opened that weekend,
6223
04:55:11,205 --> 04:55:14,148
I think the whole distribution
went into a tailspin,
6224
04:55:14,171 --> 04:55:17,079
and then you could
hardly find it on VHS,
6225
04:55:17,102 --> 04:55:19,009
but people have unearthed it,
6226
04:55:19,033 --> 04:55:20,769
literally dug it
up from the grave,
6227
04:55:20,793 --> 04:55:22,631
so I'm very grateful
to the people
6228
04:55:22,654 --> 04:55:25,481
who've done that, because
Regine was really fun.
6229
04:55:26,413 --> 04:55:28,448
Welcome to Fright Night.
6230
04:55:34,241 --> 04:55:35,871
I have such a specific memory
6231
04:55:35,896 --> 04:55:39,906
of begging my dad to take
me to see "Relentless"
6232
04:55:39,931 --> 04:55:41,354
when I was too young to see it.
6233
04:55:41,379 --> 04:55:42,631
I was probably 12.
6234
04:55:42,654 --> 04:55:45,251
Judd Nelson is Buck Taylor.
6235
04:55:45,275 --> 04:55:48,136
And Buck Taylor is "Relentless".
6236
04:55:49,827 --> 04:55:52,734
This was a Hollywood
maniac slasher,
6237
04:55:52,758 --> 04:55:55,000
so it was a well-produced film.
6238
04:56:00,896 --> 04:56:04,009
Cops chasing a serial
killer in Los Angeles.
6239
04:56:04,033 --> 04:56:05,734
Well, who the fuck killed him?
6240
04:56:05,758 --> 04:56:06,562
Well how the fuck do I know?
6241
04:56:06,585 --> 04:56:07,562
It's my first day.
6242
04:56:07,586 --> 04:56:09,596
Judd Nelson is the product
6243
04:56:09,619 --> 04:56:12,631
of an abusive relationship
with his father,
6244
04:56:12,654 --> 04:56:17,596
who was a police officer, who
he both feared and idolized,
6245
04:56:17,619 --> 04:56:20,286
when he couldn't live
up to his father's ideal
6246
04:56:20,310 --> 04:56:22,388
to also become a police officer,
6247
04:56:22,413 --> 04:56:26,079
he decides he's going to
go out and kill people
6248
04:56:26,102 --> 04:56:27,827
with his father's name.
6249
04:56:30,344 --> 04:56:32,906
Leo Rossi and Robert Loggia,
6250
04:56:32,931 --> 04:56:34,700
they are investigating it.
6251
04:56:34,723 --> 04:56:35,975
Read this.
6252
04:56:36,000 --> 04:56:37,562
No clues, no nothing.
6253
04:56:37,585 --> 04:56:38,975
What is it?
6254
04:56:39,000 --> 04:56:40,388
The asshole left it.
6255
04:56:40,413 --> 04:56:42,492
John had seen "Maniac",
and really liked it,
6256
04:56:42,516 --> 04:56:45,310
and came aboard wanting
to play the role.
6257
04:56:47,654 --> 04:56:49,319
For me stylistically,
6258
04:56:49,344 --> 04:56:53,344
it was my Dario Argento
film in daylight.
6259
04:56:55,827 --> 04:56:57,837
What really messed me
up too with that film
6260
04:56:57,862 --> 04:56:59,148
is there's a pretty brutal
6261
04:56:59,171 --> 04:57:02,550
piano wire
strangulation sequence.
6262
04:57:06,033 --> 04:57:08,457
It was intense for
me to watch as a kid.
6263
04:57:08,481 --> 04:57:09,481
Isn't that better?
6264
04:57:11,205 --> 04:57:13,148
I like the scene
where Judd is running
6265
04:57:13,171 --> 04:57:14,182
on the rooftop.
6266
04:57:14,205 --> 04:57:15,319
We did a little trick there.
6267
04:57:15,344 --> 04:57:16,871
We used a Louma crane,
6268
04:57:16,896 --> 04:57:18,423
and when he's
hidden, the stunt guy
6269
04:57:18,448 --> 04:57:19,871
comes out the other end,
6270
04:57:19,896 --> 04:57:23,000
and we tried to make it
as seamless as possible.
6271
04:57:24,241 --> 04:57:27,423
There was a moment that
was cut from the script
6272
04:57:27,448 --> 04:57:29,837
that I really wish I had shot.
6273
04:57:29,862 --> 04:57:33,251
The scene that I had stolen
from a Japanese movie
6274
04:57:33,275 --> 04:57:35,319
called "Vengeance is Mine".
6275
04:57:35,344 --> 04:57:38,217
Coming down the street
was a patrol car,
6276
04:57:38,241 --> 04:57:40,044
and Judd looks
down at his hands,
6277
04:57:40,067 --> 04:57:41,526
and there's blood on his hands,
6278
04:57:41,550 --> 04:57:44,388
so he goes in the bushes,
and pees on his hands
6279
04:57:44,413 --> 04:57:46,033
to wash the blood off of them.
6280
04:57:47,862 --> 04:57:49,044
And I thought, wow.
6281
04:57:49,067 --> 04:57:51,217
That would really say a
lot about a character.
6282
04:57:51,241 --> 04:57:52,457
It might have been
a bit too much
6283
04:57:52,481 --> 04:57:54,241
for mainstream audience.
6284
04:57:58,000 --> 04:57:59,871
It's all right.
6285
04:57:59,896 --> 04:58:01,802
I had a great time
with Judd Nelson.
6286
04:58:01,827 --> 04:58:03,354
Always joking around.
6287
04:58:03,379 --> 04:58:05,631
All the actors, all sweethearts.
6288
04:58:05,654 --> 04:58:08,079
It was a wonderful
experience on that film.
6289
04:58:08,102 --> 04:58:09,562
Yo brothers, what's up?
6290
04:58:09,585 --> 04:58:10,975
I had no interference.
6291
04:58:11,000 --> 04:58:13,319
Everything that's in
"Relentless" is mine,
6292
04:58:13,344 --> 04:58:14,975
for better or worse,
it was the way
6293
04:58:15,000 --> 04:58:17,148
I made the film, and
I'm quite proud of it.
6294
04:58:17,171 --> 04:58:18,596
I think it came out okay.
6295
04:58:18,619 --> 04:58:19,619
Please.
6296
04:58:20,827 --> 04:58:21,827
Don't hurt my son.
6297
04:58:23,723 --> 04:58:25,148
But it feels dated to me.
6298
04:58:25,171 --> 04:58:28,319
First is "Maniac Cop",
which was made before that
6299
04:58:28,344 --> 04:58:30,009
doesn't feel dated to me.
6300
04:58:30,033 --> 04:58:31,413
Go figure.
6301
04:58:32,413 --> 04:58:33,413
Oh my god!
6302
04:58:43,654 --> 04:58:45,344
William Hickey as
6303
04:58:46,965 --> 04:58:48,734
"The Puppet Master".
6304
04:58:48,758 --> 04:58:52,837
One of my favorite franchises
is "The Puppet Master".
6305
04:58:52,862 --> 04:58:55,423
And the first one was
just so perfect to me.
6306
04:58:55,448 --> 04:58:57,457
And now they have 80 of them.
6307
04:58:57,481 --> 04:58:58,827
Every single one, I want.
6308
04:59:00,585 --> 04:59:03,631
It had Blade, Tunneler, Jester,
6309
04:59:03,654 --> 04:59:07,113
with his weird face
stuff, and Leech Girl,
6310
04:59:07,136 --> 04:59:10,654
and lots, and lots, and
lots of creepy ass puppets.
6311
04:59:12,033 --> 04:59:14,286
I have all those
puppets as action figures.
6312
04:59:14,310 --> 04:59:16,562
They're some of my favorite
collectibles to this day.
6313
04:59:16,585 --> 04:59:19,758
I just wanted to see the
puppets fucking kill people.
6314
04:59:24,688 --> 04:59:28,182
You pair that with just
this weird fucking story
6315
04:59:28,205 --> 04:59:31,802
about an undead dude who
just wanted to get his,
6316
04:59:31,827 --> 04:59:35,734
gets his rivals together to
kill them off one by one.
6317
04:59:35,758 --> 04:59:38,423
And using the old techniques
of the old Puppet Master,
6318
04:59:38,448 --> 04:59:40,871
I brought myself back to life.
6319
04:59:40,896 --> 04:59:41,804
Why?
6320
04:59:41,828 --> 04:59:43,802
I want to live forever.
6321
04:59:43,827 --> 04:59:46,516
That is a piece of art
that came to life as a movie.
6322
04:59:50,136 --> 04:59:51,871
Yeah, I'm a stop motion freak.
6323
04:59:51,896 --> 04:59:54,217
Dave Allen helped shape
shift those characters
6324
04:59:54,241 --> 04:59:56,700
into what they are
now, and gave them some
6325
04:59:56,723 --> 04:59:59,793
historical context, because
it takes place in the 40s.
6326
05:00:01,136 --> 05:00:04,009
And next thing you know,
we morph into a script,
6327
05:00:04,033 --> 05:00:06,723
and David Schmoeller did a
great job with the script.
6328
05:00:12,241 --> 05:00:14,975
Charlie Band, he would give
me a lot of creative freedom.
6329
05:00:15,000 --> 05:00:17,665
It's real easy to
write these things.
6330
05:00:17,688 --> 05:00:19,837
You hope that this
is gonna work.
6331
05:00:19,862 --> 05:00:21,354
It goes from effect to effect.
6332
05:00:21,379 --> 05:00:22,769
I mean, some of them work great,
6333
05:00:22,793 --> 05:00:25,619
and some of them are
really stretches, you know.
6334
05:00:30,344 --> 05:00:31,802
You fucker!
6335
05:00:31,827 --> 05:00:33,596
I thought I could create magic,
6336
05:00:33,619 --> 05:00:36,585
and these really great
things would happen.
6337
05:00:38,793 --> 05:00:40,319
These little dolls,
they would find
6338
05:00:40,344 --> 05:00:44,906
all these sadistic ways
to murder human beings.
6339
05:00:44,931 --> 05:00:48,700
It was diabolical.
6340
05:00:48,723 --> 05:00:51,526
Leech Woman, Lord
she looks so cute
6341
05:00:51,550 --> 05:00:53,631
and pretty but then
6342
05:00:53,654 --> 05:00:55,802
and this nasty ass leech,
6343
05:00:55,827 --> 05:00:57,793
and it's just, no, why?
6344
05:01:01,619 --> 05:01:03,550
We actually used leeches.
6345
05:01:06,033 --> 05:01:08,734
The puppet with the
tiniest little head,
6346
05:01:08,758 --> 05:01:13,000
and massive baby hands, just
beating the crap out of people.
6347
05:01:16,102 --> 05:01:18,871
You're taking inanimate objects
6348
05:01:18,896 --> 05:01:21,585
and turning them
into real things.
6349
05:01:28,758 --> 05:01:30,148
We would talk about
it, and he would go off
6350
05:01:30,171 --> 05:01:33,631
and execute whatever
I needed to have
6351
05:01:33,654 --> 05:01:35,457
these puppets doing.
6352
05:01:35,481 --> 05:01:37,113
There would always
be some surprise
6353
05:01:37,136 --> 05:01:40,113
that was better than
what we had talked about.
6354
05:01:40,136 --> 05:01:43,457
Low budget filmmaking
is an art in itself.
6355
05:01:43,481 --> 05:01:45,148
It's such a crapshoot.
6356
05:01:45,171 --> 05:01:46,734
What's happening, Alice?
6357
05:01:46,758 --> 05:01:49,388
You're making
movies for no money,
6358
05:01:49,413 --> 05:01:53,310
and then you're expecting
a studio to pick it up.
6359
05:01:56,896 --> 05:01:59,079
The fact that
Paramount released it
6360
05:01:59,102 --> 05:02:01,079
gave it a lot of cache.
6361
05:02:01,102 --> 05:02:04,009
Gave it a lot of credibility.
6362
05:02:04,033 --> 05:02:06,758
What the hell
are you looking at?
6363
05:02:10,067 --> 05:02:12,802
The original idea
of these characters
6364
05:02:12,827 --> 05:02:14,631
that all start off a
little differently,
6365
05:02:14,654 --> 05:02:17,619
helped my business, my
life, and my creativity.
6366
05:02:20,448 --> 05:02:22,148
We're about to shoot
our 13th Puppet Master
6367
05:02:22,171 --> 05:02:23,827
32 years later.
6368
05:02:29,896 --> 05:02:31,631
"The Black Cat".
6369
05:02:31,654 --> 05:02:33,965
The last word in terror.
6370
05:02:36,344 --> 05:02:38,871
"The Black Cat", Luigi Cozzi,
6371
05:02:38,896 --> 05:02:42,550
or Lewis Coates, as
he's known in America.
6372
05:02:43,758 --> 05:02:44,758
Black Cat, 1A, take one.
6373
05:02:45,688 --> 05:02:47,079
My lovely Luigi, who directed
6374
05:02:47,102 --> 05:02:50,700
and kind of created
"Stellar Star Star Crash".
6375
05:02:50,723 --> 05:02:51,940
It was his baby.
6376
05:02:51,965 --> 05:02:54,319
He wanted to do this
one for quite some time.
6377
05:02:54,344 --> 05:02:57,148
Well, we've already got
the storyline blocked out,
6378
05:02:57,171 --> 05:02:58,700
but before we get down to
writing the screenplay,
6379
05:02:58,723 --> 05:03:01,596
we'd like some pointers
about reincarnation.
6380
05:03:01,619 --> 05:03:03,700
I read the script, and I
thought yeah, it's interesting.
6381
05:03:03,723 --> 05:03:04,527
It's different.
6382
05:03:04,551 --> 05:03:06,044
Don't use that name.
6383
05:03:06,067 --> 05:03:07,319
Change it at once.
6384
05:03:07,344 --> 05:03:08,388
What name, Levana?
6385
05:03:08,413 --> 05:03:09,631
Yes.
6386
05:03:09,654 --> 05:03:11,205
Don't take the risk
of summoning her.
6387
05:03:12,379 --> 05:03:14,871
Dario Argento had a hand in it.
6388
05:03:14,896 --> 05:03:18,319
Dario Argento
directed it, "Suspiria",
6389
05:03:18,344 --> 05:03:20,837
and I must admit, it
was very, very good.
6390
05:03:20,862 --> 05:03:23,044
Luigi worked very
closely with Dario.
6391
05:03:23,067 --> 05:03:24,596
It was shot in Italy.
6392
05:03:24,619 --> 05:03:27,423
Not a lot of plot, but
beautiful to look at.
6393
05:03:27,448 --> 05:03:29,940
Great performances
from the actors.
6394
05:03:29,965 --> 05:03:31,182
They were all European.
6395
05:03:31,205 --> 05:03:33,665
I think I was the only
English person in it.
6396
05:03:33,688 --> 05:03:37,148
We had a wonderful prince
called Urbano Barberini
6397
05:03:37,171 --> 05:03:39,319
who was in it, and then
you had Florence Guerin,
6398
05:03:39,344 --> 05:03:41,182
who was wonderful in the film.
6399
05:03:41,205 --> 05:03:42,758
She was fantastic.
6400
05:03:46,654 --> 05:03:49,182
You can never leave!
6401
05:03:49,205 --> 05:03:51,286
You'll never be
Levana the witch!
6402
05:03:51,310 --> 05:03:52,492
Never, never!
6403
05:03:52,516 --> 05:03:56,000
She was an actress,
I was an actress.
6404
05:03:59,000 --> 05:03:59,941
Cut.
6405
05:03:59,966 --> 05:04:01,388
Florence was the nice one.
6406
05:04:01,413 --> 05:04:04,044
I was just a bitch, I would
say, really, basically.
6407
05:04:04,067 --> 05:04:05,286
Sorry.
6408
05:04:05,310 --> 05:04:06,723
So I have your
permission to, uh,
6409
05:04:08,448 --> 05:04:09,619
put it to him?
6410
05:04:12,136 --> 05:04:12,941
But it was good
character for me.
6411
05:04:12,966 --> 05:04:14,113
I liked it.
6412
05:04:14,136 --> 05:04:16,665
Quite dark, and she was
all out for herself.
6413
05:04:16,688 --> 05:04:19,423
Everything was
about her, really.
6414
05:04:19,448 --> 05:04:22,492
She was very jealous of
Florence and the husband.
6415
05:04:22,516 --> 05:04:24,275
Why in god's name did you do it?
6416
05:04:25,862 --> 05:04:28,526
The same reason I took
Mark away from you, Anne.
6417
05:04:28,550 --> 05:04:29,975
For Levana.
6418
05:04:30,000 --> 05:04:31,837
My character was capable
of anything, really.
6419
05:04:31,862 --> 05:04:33,631
I liked that concept.
6420
05:04:33,654 --> 05:04:34,837
What is your command?
6421
05:04:34,862 --> 05:04:36,688
I ordered you to stop Anne.
6422
05:04:37,654 --> 05:04:39,526
It rolled along nicely.
6423
05:04:39,550 --> 05:04:41,251
Maybe not the best dialogue.
6424
05:04:41,275 --> 05:04:44,000
And you know
what you must do with it.
6425
05:04:45,171 --> 05:04:47,079
The baby's in the other room.
6426
05:04:47,102 --> 05:04:48,492
Some of the scenes
were quite heavy
6427
05:04:48,516 --> 05:04:49,700
with the special effects.
6428
05:04:49,723 --> 05:04:51,241
Very bloody.
6429
05:04:53,344 --> 05:04:54,827
It is a bit weird, isn't it?
6430
05:04:56,965 --> 05:04:58,423
They're quite gruesome effects.
6431
05:04:58,448 --> 05:05:01,000
Looking back on it, they
were really, really good.
6432
05:05:13,171 --> 05:05:15,009
The Spanish title
for "Grave Robbers"
6433
05:05:15,033 --> 05:05:16,862
is "Ladrones De Tumbas".
6434
05:05:18,585 --> 05:05:20,665
There's a lot of
satanic rituals,
6435
05:05:20,688 --> 05:05:22,758
and a lot of killings.
6436
05:05:25,000 --> 05:05:28,769
A guy is persecuted
by the Inquisition,
6437
05:05:28,793 --> 05:05:31,906
and he's tortured, and murdered,
6438
05:05:31,931 --> 05:05:35,000
and he promises to
return for vengeance.
6439
05:05:43,000 --> 05:05:46,354
Our main characters, they
go to the cemeteries,
6440
05:05:46,379 --> 05:05:49,044
dig up the graves,
extract the bodies,
6441
05:05:49,067 --> 05:05:51,940
look for gold and
valuable things,
6442
05:05:51,965 --> 05:05:54,827
and they sell them
in the black market.
6443
05:05:56,723 --> 05:05:59,526
They go through a
tunnel into the dungeons
6444
05:05:59,550 --> 05:06:01,102
of this old hacienda.
6445
05:06:03,310 --> 05:06:05,241
And strange things
start happening.
6446
05:06:13,379 --> 05:06:15,319
By the time we shot
"Grave Robbers",
6447
05:06:15,344 --> 05:06:18,562
I was a big expert
in prosthetics
6448
05:06:18,585 --> 05:06:20,975
and special effects,
cinematography.
6449
05:06:21,000 --> 05:06:22,654
I had learned a lot.
6450
05:06:25,827 --> 05:06:26,940
We didn't shoot it in English.
6451
05:06:26,965 --> 05:06:28,837
We shot it in Spanish.
6452
05:06:28,862 --> 05:06:30,906
We shot that film
in Valle de Bravo.
6453
05:06:30,931 --> 05:06:33,734
It's about an hour and
a half from Mexico City.
6454
05:06:33,758 --> 05:06:34,769
It's in the mountains.
6455
05:06:34,793 --> 05:06:36,965
There's woods all over.
6456
05:06:41,171 --> 05:06:43,688
One girl is kidnapped.
6457
05:06:45,102 --> 05:06:48,734
And the policemen go
inside the dungeons,
6458
05:06:48,758 --> 05:06:52,182
and he finds his daughter
tied up to the floor.
6459
05:06:52,205 --> 05:06:53,423
The demon walks in
6460
05:06:53,448 --> 05:06:56,067
and they engage in a fight.
6461
05:07:00,205 --> 05:07:02,769
When our hero comes in
and saves the policeman
6462
05:07:02,793 --> 05:07:04,631
and saves the girl.
6463
05:07:04,654 --> 05:07:06,585
That's a memorable scene.
6464
05:07:10,344 --> 05:07:14,562
It had known actors for
the domestic market.
6465
05:07:14,585 --> 05:07:16,940
It was aimed for
the right target,
6466
05:07:16,965 --> 05:07:19,526
and it was a very big
success in Mexico,
6467
05:07:19,550 --> 05:07:22,562
and then a big success
when the video clubs
6468
05:07:22,585 --> 05:07:23,896
started renting it out.
6469
05:07:25,723 --> 05:07:26,906
No!
6470
05:07:26,931 --> 05:07:30,631
I wasn't aware
how this film became
6471
05:07:30,654 --> 05:07:33,492
part of the cult
1980s horror films,
6472
05:07:33,516 --> 05:07:35,975
because my career has gone on.
6473
05:07:36,000 --> 05:07:38,562
I'm mostly known
in Mexico for being
6474
05:07:38,585 --> 05:07:41,241
a reality show producer.
6475
05:07:42,448 --> 05:07:44,562
I'm proud of them
because they were done
6476
05:07:44,585 --> 05:07:46,457
with no money, with no time,
6477
05:07:46,481 --> 05:07:48,688
with no technical resources.
6478
05:07:49,619 --> 05:07:51,562
I was in the process of learning
6479
05:07:51,585 --> 05:07:53,734
how to become a filmmaker.
6480
05:07:53,758 --> 05:07:56,793
We were just kids having fun.
6481
05:08:08,136 --> 05:08:11,148
I have no idea why
people romanticize films
6482
05:08:11,171 --> 05:08:13,837
simply because they
were made in the 80s.
6483
05:08:13,862 --> 05:08:15,079
Hi.
6484
05:08:15,102 --> 05:08:17,562
But because they
were made in the 80s,
6485
05:08:17,585 --> 05:08:20,171
they develop a cult reputation.
6486
05:08:23,136 --> 05:08:25,769
I'm really thrilled
that audiences now
6487
05:08:25,793 --> 05:08:27,457
really appreciate this stuff,
6488
05:08:27,481 --> 05:08:29,769
that back in the 80s,
people were just like,
6489
05:08:29,793 --> 05:08:31,631
nah, you know, whatever.
6490
05:08:31,654 --> 05:08:33,871
Now there's a whole
new renaissance,
6491
05:08:33,896 --> 05:08:36,596
if you will, and people are
really getting into them,
6492
05:08:36,619 --> 05:08:38,388
and really loving
them, and giving them
6493
05:08:38,413 --> 05:08:40,526
the kudos that they deserve.
6494
05:08:40,550 --> 05:08:42,526
They have a life today
that's not the same
6495
05:08:42,550 --> 05:08:43,940
as their life in the 80s,
6496
05:08:43,965 --> 05:08:46,388
but let's get real
about, you know
6497
05:08:46,413 --> 05:08:49,000
Orson Welles didn't
make any of these films.
6498
05:08:50,379 --> 05:08:52,182
We need to reframe
the way that we look
6499
05:08:52,205 --> 05:08:54,481
at good and bad movies.
6500
05:08:56,136 --> 05:08:57,906
Bad movies can be enjoyable.
6501
05:08:57,931 --> 05:08:59,700
You can find a different
way to look at it.
6502
05:08:59,723 --> 05:09:02,033
I mean, no one's setting
out to make a bad movie.
6503
05:09:05,275 --> 05:09:07,457
It doesn't really
matter how great
6504
05:09:07,481 --> 05:09:09,596
or not great these movies were,
6505
05:09:09,619 --> 05:09:11,009
it's important to remember
6506
05:09:11,033 --> 05:09:14,837
how the cast, the
crew, the producers,
6507
05:09:14,862 --> 05:09:17,596
the director, put all
their love and energy
6508
05:09:17,619 --> 05:09:20,526
and money into
these various films,
6509
05:09:20,550 --> 05:09:22,940
and really made them
into something unique
6510
05:09:22,965 --> 05:09:24,862
that there was an audience for.
6511
05:09:26,241 --> 05:09:27,906
I think it's
important for us to keep
6512
05:09:27,931 --> 05:09:29,975
these films in conversation.
6513
05:09:30,000 --> 05:09:31,492
Especially the ones
that people think
6514
05:09:31,516 --> 05:09:34,526
maybe are not so great, because
there's the obvious ones,
6515
05:09:34,550 --> 05:09:36,457
like "The Shining", "The Thing".
6516
05:09:36,481 --> 05:09:39,734
Those extend beyond
horror audiences.
6517
05:09:39,758 --> 05:09:40,906
But then there's kind of like,
6518
05:09:40,931 --> 05:09:43,009
we have these in danger
of being forgotten
6519
05:09:43,033 --> 05:09:45,492
or going extinct gems.
6520
05:09:45,516 --> 05:09:47,871
As we move from
this media format
6521
05:09:47,896 --> 05:09:49,354
to this media format,
6522
05:09:49,379 --> 05:09:50,975
there's things that kind of
get pushed to the wayside,
6523
05:09:51,000 --> 05:09:52,492
and we're leaving them behind.
6524
05:09:52,516 --> 05:09:54,217
Hide the body, and come back,
6525
05:09:54,241 --> 05:09:55,837
and clean up the blood.
6526
05:09:55,862 --> 05:09:58,492
People should champion
anything that they enjoy,
6527
05:09:58,516 --> 05:10:01,102
because that's how
you keep things alive.
6528
05:10:04,033 --> 05:10:05,217
Streaming is great.
6529
05:10:05,241 --> 05:10:07,802
I love that it makes
things easily accessible
6530
05:10:07,827 --> 05:10:10,769
to the masses, but
also it doesn't compare
6531
05:10:10,793 --> 05:10:13,700
to browsing and
picking something up
6532
05:10:13,723 --> 05:10:16,044
and feeling it, smelling it,
6533
05:10:16,067 --> 05:10:17,388
holding it in your hands
6534
05:10:17,413 --> 05:10:19,585
is a special kind of experience.
6535
05:10:22,793 --> 05:10:26,182
Home video and cable
meant that movies
6536
05:10:26,205 --> 05:10:29,700
didn't go away, and
that meant that movies
6537
05:10:29,723 --> 05:10:32,113
found their audience.
6538
05:10:32,136 --> 05:10:33,769
And then word of mouth kicks in.
6539
05:10:33,793 --> 05:10:37,837
And to no small extent,
creates horror fandom,
6540
05:10:37,862 --> 05:10:40,457
which has become this tidal wave
6541
05:10:40,481 --> 05:10:45,217
over the 30, 40 years since
that technology arrived.
6542
05:10:45,241 --> 05:10:48,044
Of course it's not ideal
to see a movie on tape
6543
05:10:48,067 --> 05:10:49,871
as opposed to seeing
it on the big screen,
6544
05:10:49,896 --> 05:10:51,457
but as we see that
the way that the world
6545
05:10:51,481 --> 05:10:54,769
has currently gone, many
more people see movies
6546
05:10:54,793 --> 05:10:56,354
on their devices
than they ever see
6547
05:10:56,379 --> 05:10:58,148
on a theater screen,
and the trade off
6548
05:10:58,171 --> 05:11:00,251
is it isn't gonna be seen
6549
05:11:00,275 --> 05:11:01,700
by very many people
in the theater.
6550
05:11:01,723 --> 05:11:03,413
It's mostly gonna
be seen at home.
6551
05:11:04,550 --> 05:11:07,562
Today, there's a kind
of casualness to it.
6552
05:11:07,585 --> 05:11:09,734
I'm still a child of the cinema.
6553
05:11:09,758 --> 05:11:12,769
I'm not crazy about
people being introduced
6554
05:11:12,793 --> 05:11:14,136
to horror through digital.
6555
05:11:15,344 --> 05:11:17,009
The upside is that
the screens are better,
6556
05:11:17,033 --> 05:11:18,906
they're bigger, the
sound is better.
6557
05:11:18,931 --> 05:11:20,423
People are very
serious about the way
6558
05:11:20,448 --> 05:11:21,734
they present their films,
6559
05:11:21,758 --> 05:11:24,217
and so it's a
theater-like experience,
6560
05:11:24,241 --> 05:11:25,734
but it's not a
theater experience,
6561
05:11:25,758 --> 05:11:27,526
because a theater
experience is with a large
6562
05:11:27,550 --> 05:11:30,148
audience of people,
who make the difference
6563
05:11:30,171 --> 05:11:32,862
between what you're watching,
and what you're experiencing.
6564
05:11:34,136 --> 05:11:36,492
An experienced horror
film with a big audience
6565
05:11:36,516 --> 05:11:39,079
that's enjoying it is
completely different
6566
05:11:39,102 --> 05:11:42,526
and more fun experience
than watching it
6567
05:11:42,550 --> 05:11:43,871
at home with two friends.
6568
05:11:43,896 --> 05:11:45,217
That's just night and day.
6569
05:11:45,241 --> 05:11:47,319
Part of the problem
is our technology
6570
05:11:47,344 --> 05:11:48,769
is so magnificent now.
6571
05:11:48,793 --> 05:11:52,009
People think anything
old is clunky.
6572
05:11:52,033 --> 05:11:53,769
This desire just to see the new,
6573
05:11:53,793 --> 05:11:56,251
the new, the new, the
next, the next, the next,
6574
05:11:56,275 --> 05:11:59,044
sometimes prevents us
from taking some time
6575
05:11:59,067 --> 05:12:01,009
out of our very busy lives
6576
05:12:01,033 --> 05:12:03,562
and realizing that
there's some great stuff
6577
05:12:03,585 --> 05:12:05,275
from the past.
6578
05:12:08,136 --> 05:12:11,596
Maybe the movie itself
isn't necessarily great,
6579
05:12:11,619 --> 05:12:13,665
but it's the experience
of watching it
6580
05:12:13,688 --> 05:12:15,596
that makes it great,
and then 20 years later,
6581
05:12:15,619 --> 05:12:18,182
you're telling people, no you
have to watch "Motel Hell".
6582
05:12:18,205 --> 05:12:20,481
This is one of the
greatest movies ever made.
6583
05:12:23,448 --> 05:12:24,940
They hold it near
and dear to their heart
6584
05:12:24,965 --> 05:12:27,906
because they've seen it with
their father who's passed,
6585
05:12:27,931 --> 05:12:30,286
or cousin made them
watch it to scare them,
6586
05:12:30,310 --> 05:12:31,975
or whatever,
however they saw it.
6587
05:12:32,000 --> 05:12:34,000
It holds good
memories for people.
6588
05:12:35,654 --> 05:12:37,079
Horror is personal.
6589
05:12:37,102 --> 05:12:40,044
We can all agree on
a good horror film.
6590
05:12:40,067 --> 05:12:41,423
It's like, ah "Psycho".
6591
05:12:41,448 --> 05:12:44,148
But nobody's defending
"Psycho" to the death.
6592
05:12:44,171 --> 05:12:47,217
I think we have it all wrong
when we talk about horror.
6593
05:12:47,241 --> 05:12:49,906
We're like, this is
good, or this is bad.
6594
05:12:49,931 --> 05:12:51,423
No.
6595
05:12:51,448 --> 05:12:53,802
Something is entertaining
or it's not entertaining,
6596
05:12:53,827 --> 05:12:57,079
and by putting everything
on a good and bad dichotomy,
6597
05:12:57,102 --> 05:12:59,182
we ruin our experience
of being able
6598
05:12:59,205 --> 05:13:03,044
to talk about a movie,
like "Sleepaway Camp II",
6599
05:13:03,067 --> 05:13:05,044
that's just like a
fucking good time.
6600
05:13:05,067 --> 05:13:07,354
"Sleepaway Camp II" doesn't
have to be high art,
6601
05:13:07,379 --> 05:13:09,217
to be a social satire.
6602
05:13:09,241 --> 05:13:12,079
Howdy partner!
6603
05:13:12,102 --> 05:13:13,286
I actually think
that you can find
6604
05:13:13,310 --> 05:13:14,906
more in our culture and history
6605
05:13:14,931 --> 05:13:16,906
and even just social context
6606
05:13:16,931 --> 05:13:19,217
in films that are labeled trash.
6607
05:13:19,241 --> 05:13:21,079
There's more there to
actually pick from,
6608
05:13:21,102 --> 05:13:24,044
and shine a light on
who we were as people.
6609
05:13:24,067 --> 05:13:25,562
Like, a popcorn film?
6610
05:13:25,585 --> 05:13:29,723
That's loaded with identity,
and society, and culture.
6611
05:13:31,171 --> 05:13:33,354
I'm way more interested in
the history I'm gonna get
6612
05:13:33,379 --> 05:13:35,388
from a movie that
people cast aside
6613
05:13:35,413 --> 05:13:36,665
than the history I'm gonna get
6614
05:13:36,688 --> 05:13:38,965
and what I learn in
a film school class.
6615
05:13:41,619 --> 05:13:46,286
Let's not get insanely
academic about these films.
6616
05:13:46,310 --> 05:13:48,354
The people who watch
these movies in the 80s
6617
05:13:48,379 --> 05:13:50,734
weren't watching them from
an ironic point of view.
6618
05:13:50,758 --> 05:13:53,182
They were watching them because
they enjoyed the mayhem.
6619
05:13:53,205 --> 05:13:55,665
The people who watch
those same movies today
6620
05:13:55,688 --> 05:13:58,182
are watching them from
an academic standpoint,
6621
05:13:58,205 --> 05:14:01,388
as though they're analyzing
every little detail
6622
05:14:01,413 --> 05:14:02,457
of the film.
6623
05:14:02,481 --> 05:14:03,975
These films were made by guys
6624
05:14:04,000 --> 05:14:06,217
who wanted to make a fast buck.
6625
05:14:06,241 --> 05:14:07,975
These films were made for money.
6626
05:14:08,000 --> 05:14:11,182
They were not concerned with
trying to impress anybody.
6627
05:14:11,205 --> 05:14:15,009
They were concerned with the
largest audience possible.
6628
05:14:15,033 --> 05:14:17,516
They were filmmakers, but
they were also businessmen.
6629
05:14:19,896 --> 05:14:22,896
These aren't big
extravagant productions.
6630
05:14:26,205 --> 05:14:28,009
You crazy bastard.
6631
05:14:28,033 --> 05:14:30,079
Horror lets you be creative.
6632
05:14:30,102 --> 05:14:31,802
You can go outside the box.
6633
05:14:31,827 --> 05:14:33,596
You can go outside the scope.
6634
05:14:33,619 --> 05:14:36,079
Horror, it can look
cheesy and bad,
6635
05:14:36,102 --> 05:14:37,481
and it's fun.
6636
05:14:40,654 --> 05:14:43,354
We love to be scared,
6637
05:14:43,379 --> 05:14:47,275
and we love to think
we're in peril.
6638
05:14:48,793 --> 05:14:53,793
And we love to be at
odds with each other.
6639
05:14:54,965 --> 05:14:58,802
Movies are so powerful,
because it reminds us
6640
05:14:58,827 --> 05:15:01,734
of a simpler, more
innocent time.
6641
05:15:01,758 --> 05:15:03,665
And that's where
we all want to be.
6642
05:15:03,688 --> 05:15:06,113
God knows in this day and age.
6643
05:15:06,136 --> 05:15:07,827
That's where we all want to be.
6644
05:16:38,448 --> 05:16:40,700
So, before watching
"In Search of Darkness",
6645
05:16:40,723 --> 05:16:41,940
I was definitely
one of those guys
6646
05:16:41,965 --> 05:16:44,182
who was like, yeah
man, I know 80s horror.
6647
05:16:44,205 --> 05:16:46,079
Freddie and Jason!
6648
05:16:46,102 --> 05:16:47,940
Sweet!
6649
05:16:47,965 --> 05:16:49,631
And then I watched "In
Search of Darkness",
6650
05:16:49,654 --> 05:16:52,079
and I realized,
you naive bastard,
6651
05:16:52,102 --> 05:16:54,940
you know nothing
about 80s horror.
6652
05:16:54,965 --> 05:16:57,113
So now I actually know things,
6653
05:16:57,136 --> 05:16:59,251
and like, how had
I lived my life
6654
05:16:59,275 --> 05:17:01,251
and missed "Sleepaway Camp"?
6655
05:17:01,275 --> 05:17:03,113
That is a fantastic movie.
6656
05:17:03,136 --> 05:17:05,758
So thank you for awakening me.
6657
05:17:08,619 --> 05:17:10,286
80s horror is
very important to me
6658
05:17:10,310 --> 05:17:12,251
as I grew up in the early 80s,
6659
05:17:12,275 --> 05:17:13,940
and horror was embedded
in our culture.
6660
05:17:13,965 --> 05:17:15,734
It was in our toys,
in our cartoons.
6661
05:17:15,758 --> 05:17:16,906
It was everywhere.
6662
05:17:16,931 --> 05:17:18,940
We used to draw
monsters in art class,
6663
05:17:18,965 --> 05:17:20,009
like the Monster Squad,
6664
05:17:20,033 --> 05:17:21,423
and that was
acceptable back then.
6665
05:17:21,448 --> 05:17:23,526
You wouldn't get locked
up for stuff like that.
6666
05:17:23,550 --> 05:17:25,388
I miss going into a video store
6667
05:17:25,413 --> 05:17:27,665
and grabbing a random VHS
6668
05:17:27,688 --> 05:17:29,217
and saying hey, this
box art, it looks good.
6669
05:17:29,241 --> 05:17:30,975
Is it a curse, or is it great?
6670
05:17:31,000 --> 05:17:32,319
You never know.
6671
05:17:32,344 --> 05:17:33,596
And you watch it
with your friends
6672
05:17:33,619 --> 05:17:34,975
in the middle of the
night, enjoying it,
6673
05:17:35,000 --> 05:17:37,102
and it brings you back
to a simpler time.
6674
05:17:40,550 --> 05:17:41,802
80s horror is so important to me
6675
05:17:41,827 --> 05:17:43,665
because it's an
escape from reality.
6676
05:17:43,688 --> 05:17:45,492
Takes me back to a simpler time.
6677
05:17:45,516 --> 05:17:46,906
Gives me that nostalgia.
6678
05:17:46,931 --> 05:17:48,388
And these documentaries,
6679
05:17:48,413 --> 05:17:50,526
they help nail the fact home
6680
05:17:50,550 --> 05:17:52,975
that horror can
be a cathartic way
6681
05:17:53,000 --> 05:17:55,423
to deal with fear and
all the BS this world
6682
05:17:55,448 --> 05:17:56,665
has to throw at us.
6683
05:17:56,688 --> 05:17:58,526
80s horror, and all
horror in general,
6684
05:17:58,550 --> 05:17:59,769
and I love that.
6685
05:17:59,793 --> 05:18:01,562
These documentaries
are amazing for that.
6686
05:18:01,585 --> 05:18:02,700
Favorite movie of all time?
6687
05:18:02,723 --> 05:18:04,940
"Silver Bullet", 1985.
6688
05:18:04,965 --> 05:18:07,734
It is incredible.
6689
05:18:07,758 --> 05:18:08,758
Rock on.
6690
05:18:11,793 --> 05:18:12,975
Hey.
6691
05:18:13,000 --> 05:18:14,871
I just wanted to say
thank you so, so much
6692
05:18:14,896 --> 05:18:17,906
to everybody involved with
"In Search of Darkness".
6693
05:18:17,931 --> 05:18:19,802
It's been absolutely fantastic.
6694
05:18:19,827 --> 05:18:21,319
I've really, really enjoyed.
6695
05:18:21,344 --> 05:18:23,906
It's flooded back
memories of going down
6696
05:18:23,931 --> 05:18:26,009
the video shop, the video store,
6697
05:18:26,033 --> 05:18:28,871
in the 80s, looking at
the best horror films
6698
05:18:28,896 --> 05:18:30,217
that were released.
6699
05:18:30,241 --> 05:18:31,423
Absolutely fantastic.
6700
05:18:31,448 --> 05:18:33,044
And it's also introduced me
6701
05:18:33,067 --> 05:18:35,871
to some of the
classics that I missed,
6702
05:18:35,896 --> 05:18:38,448
down the video shop, going
back all those years.
6703
05:18:42,827 --> 05:18:45,423
80s horror happened to coincide
6704
05:18:45,448 --> 05:18:48,769
with the VHS era,
and in my opinion,
6705
05:18:48,793 --> 05:18:50,596
the 80s horror was
the prime attraction
6706
05:18:50,619 --> 05:18:51,975
of the VHS.
6707
05:18:52,000 --> 05:18:53,457
I mean, look at that.
6708
05:18:53,481 --> 05:18:56,033
How could you walk by that
and not want to rent it?
6709
05:18:59,413 --> 05:19:00,665
Oh, hi.
6710
05:19:00,688 --> 05:19:01,906
I'm AJ Danna.
6711
05:19:01,931 --> 05:19:04,492
I played Tapehead at
"Slashback Video".
6712
05:19:04,516 --> 05:19:06,113
The "In Search of
Darkness" trilogy
6713
05:19:06,136 --> 05:19:08,526
has meant so much to
dust off these old
6714
05:19:08,550 --> 05:19:11,526
classic horror tapes, and
make sure each and every
6715
05:19:11,550 --> 05:19:15,319
actor and filmmaker involved
in these movie making gems
6716
05:19:15,344 --> 05:19:17,526
did not pour their
blood, sweat, and tears
6717
05:19:17,550 --> 05:19:20,000
into movies in vain.
6718
05:19:21,067 --> 05:19:22,241
So anyways, thanks.
6719
05:19:25,550 --> 05:19:27,423
I decided to back the "In
Search of Darkness" series
6720
05:19:27,448 --> 05:19:29,906
for the tireless people
behind Creator BC,
6721
05:19:29,931 --> 05:19:31,975
because you learn something
interesting and significant
6722
05:19:32,000 --> 05:19:34,044
about the films from the
people who worked on the films
6723
05:19:34,067 --> 05:19:36,067
that you can't
find anywhere else.
6724
05:19:38,448 --> 05:19:40,734
To me, horror movies
were a safe haven
6725
05:19:40,758 --> 05:19:41,975
growing up in the 80s.
6726
05:19:42,000 --> 05:19:44,423
I spent so many hours
in the video store
6727
05:19:44,448 --> 05:19:46,665
browsing for titles to watch.
6728
05:19:46,688 --> 05:19:49,492
When "In Search of
Darkness: Part One" ended,
6729
05:19:49,516 --> 05:19:52,492
the covers shown up with a key,
6730
05:19:52,516 --> 05:19:56,286
and a dark room, the
TV, the characters.
6731
05:19:56,310 --> 05:19:59,000
It was like I was that same boy.
6732
05:20:00,171 --> 05:20:03,388
This documentary has
been a door to go back
6733
05:20:03,413 --> 05:20:04,723
and complete that journey.
6734
05:20:07,067 --> 05:20:08,769
80s horror movies
are important to me
6735
05:20:08,793 --> 05:20:10,492
because I was raised
the right way,
6736
05:20:10,516 --> 05:20:11,734
and grew up watching them
6737
05:20:11,758 --> 05:20:13,319
ever since I was
a wee little one,
6738
05:20:13,344 --> 05:20:15,182
despite not growing
up in that generation.
6739
05:20:15,205 --> 05:20:17,354
But it was cool people
from that generation
6740
05:20:17,379 --> 05:20:19,079
who showed me those
movies, and gave us
6741
05:20:19,102 --> 05:20:20,388
something to bond over.
6742
05:20:20,413 --> 05:20:22,354
But my favorite
horror movie has to be
6743
05:20:22,379 --> 05:20:23,596
John Carpenter's "The Thing".
6744
05:20:23,619 --> 05:20:25,769
The most amazing
practical effects
6745
05:20:25,793 --> 05:20:27,769
to the gore, and
of course starring
6746
05:20:27,793 --> 05:20:30,596
the absolute hunks Kurt
Russel and Keith David,
6747
05:20:30,619 --> 05:20:31,975
what is there not to love?
6748
05:20:32,000 --> 05:20:33,388
So 80s horror rules,
6749
05:20:33,413 --> 05:20:35,009
and thanks to "In
Search of Darkness"
6750
05:20:35,033 --> 05:20:36,379
for bringing it all back.
6751
05:20:38,516 --> 05:20:42,423
You know, growing up as a
kid with not many friends,
6752
05:20:42,448 --> 05:20:44,965
actually I had none
until I was 10.
6753
05:20:46,344 --> 05:20:49,286
Single father, worked
nights, and slept all day.
6754
05:20:49,310 --> 05:20:51,769
Horror movies were my go-to,
6755
05:20:51,793 --> 05:20:54,251
and the monsters
were my friends,
6756
05:20:54,275 --> 05:20:56,079
and it was just awesome.
6757
05:20:56,102 --> 05:20:59,044
With the "In Search
of Darkness" trilogy,
6758
05:20:59,067 --> 05:21:02,457
I got to relive that
past as a child,
6759
05:21:02,481 --> 05:21:06,344
and it just, it's perfect.
6760
05:21:11,171 --> 05:21:12,251
80s horror was the best.
6761
05:21:12,275 --> 05:21:13,562
It was imagination.
6762
05:21:13,585 --> 05:21:14,802
It was entertainment.
6763
05:21:14,827 --> 05:21:16,802
It was fun, it was
gory, it was crazy,
6764
05:21:16,827 --> 05:21:17,632
it was the best.
6765
05:21:17,655 --> 05:21:19,067
80 horror rules!
6766
05:21:22,000 --> 05:21:24,148
I'm Matt Weinhold,
and I love 80s horror
6767
05:21:24,171 --> 05:21:27,217
because it's scary,
sexy, innovative,
6768
05:21:27,241 --> 05:21:30,837
indecent, unapologetic, and fun!
6769
05:21:30,862 --> 05:21:33,067
It's the punk rock of horror!
6770
05:21:39,688 --> 05:21:42,044
Having been a
teenager in the 1980s,
6771
05:21:42,067 --> 05:21:44,700
I was able to experience
most of these films
6772
05:21:44,723 --> 05:21:46,388
in a theatrical setting.
6773
05:21:46,413 --> 05:21:49,423
The 80s gave us the
best of John Landis,
6774
05:21:49,448 --> 05:21:52,354
and John Carpenter,
and David Cronenberg,
6775
05:21:52,379 --> 05:21:54,596
and we got to see the
birth of franchises
6776
05:21:54,619 --> 05:21:56,871
of "Friday the 13th" and
"Nightmare on Elm Street",
6777
05:21:56,896 --> 05:21:58,802
and "Poltergeist", "Evil Dead",
6778
05:21:58,827 --> 05:22:01,286
and what "In Search of
Darkness" has allowed me to do
6779
05:22:01,310 --> 05:22:04,802
is revisit those memories,
and love these films
6780
05:22:04,827 --> 05:22:05,862
all over again.
6781
05:22:08,793 --> 05:22:12,079
In the 1980s, we
gazed into the abyss,
6782
05:22:12,102 --> 05:22:13,596
and we smiled,
6783
05:22:13,619 --> 05:22:16,665
because it was filled with
visceral practical effects,
6784
05:22:16,688 --> 05:22:19,562
intrepid heroes, garish demons,
6785
05:22:19,585 --> 05:22:22,354
and synth-laden
nightmare schemes.
6786
05:22:22,379 --> 05:22:24,217
Thanks to "In
Search of Darkness",
6787
05:22:24,241 --> 05:22:28,379
the abyss can finally gaze
back at us, and smile.
6788
05:22:32,827 --> 05:22:34,286
My love of 80s horror films
6789
05:22:34,310 --> 05:22:36,700
started back when
I was 11 years old.
6790
05:22:36,723 --> 05:22:38,423
I stayed up one night
and watched "A Nightmare"
6791
05:22:38,448 --> 05:22:40,148
"on Elm Street" with my mum.
6792
05:22:40,171 --> 05:22:41,940
Halfway through the
film, I got so scared
6793
05:22:41,965 --> 05:22:45,044
that I went up to bed,
and five minutes later,
6794
05:22:45,067 --> 05:22:46,596
I was back downstairs
watching the rest
6795
05:22:46,619 --> 05:22:48,079
of the film with her.
6796
05:22:48,102 --> 05:22:50,827
That's where it started, and
it's never stopped since.
6797
05:22:53,481 --> 05:22:56,319
Watching "In Search of
Darkness" documentaries
6798
05:22:56,344 --> 05:22:59,413
takes me back to the best
part of my childhood,
6799
05:23:00,862 --> 05:23:04,700
and also knowing that I'm
watching these documentaries
6800
05:23:04,723 --> 05:23:07,286
with a community of people
6801
05:23:07,310 --> 05:23:10,769
that also share my
love of 80s horror,
6802
05:23:10,793 --> 05:23:12,758
it is the best feeling.
6803
05:23:15,136 --> 05:23:19,700
The immense popularity
of these movies
6804
05:23:19,723 --> 05:23:22,837
showed so many of
us that we were part
6805
05:23:22,862 --> 05:23:27,700
of a global community,
and so in a way,
6806
05:23:27,723 --> 05:23:29,871
the darkness became
a place of comfort,
6807
05:23:29,896 --> 05:23:33,723
because we knew
we weren't alone.
6808
05:23:36,171 --> 05:23:39,423
In a sense, it's more
like it's our story,
6809
05:23:39,448 --> 05:23:41,286
and what these
movies mean to us,
6810
05:23:41,310 --> 05:23:43,931
and I can't thank these
documentaries enough for that.
6811
05:23:46,379 --> 05:23:48,665
Everything about
it is so beautiful.
6812
05:23:48,688 --> 05:23:51,113
It's one of the
best times of horror
6813
05:23:51,136 --> 05:23:54,310
and it makes me feel
better about me and myself.
6814
05:23:58,862 --> 05:24:01,113
There's something
for everyone in there,
6815
05:24:01,136 --> 05:24:04,388
whether you like
slashers, comedies,
6816
05:24:04,413 --> 05:24:07,769
my personal favorite
horror movie from the 1980s
6817
05:24:07,793 --> 05:24:09,700
is "Killer Klowns
from Outer Space".
6818
05:24:09,723 --> 05:24:11,286
I saw that movie the first time
6819
05:24:11,310 --> 05:24:14,975
when I was maybe 10 years old,
6820
05:24:15,000 --> 05:24:17,596
and that's one of the
movies that made me
6821
05:24:17,619 --> 05:24:20,182
fall in love with horror,
and the reason I'm as big
6822
05:24:20,205 --> 05:24:22,067
of a horror fan as I am today.
6823
05:24:24,896 --> 05:24:26,975
When I wanted to
get into horror,
6824
05:24:27,000 --> 05:24:30,217
and I was too scared
to watch it by myself,
6825
05:24:30,241 --> 05:24:33,354
my friends would sit with
me in my dark basement,
6826
05:24:33,379 --> 05:24:36,906
and we would watch 80s
horror movies together.
6827
05:24:36,931 --> 05:24:39,009
And we started
with the classics,
6828
05:24:39,033 --> 05:24:42,975
and slowly moved our way out
to totally obscure titles,
6829
05:24:43,000 --> 05:24:47,769
but for me, those were really
special times in my life.
6830
05:24:47,793 --> 05:24:50,596
And it really made horror,
especially 80s horror,
6831
05:24:50,619 --> 05:24:53,619
something that brought
people together in my life.
6832
05:24:56,241 --> 05:24:58,940
80s horror movies really
had a style of their own
6833
05:24:58,965 --> 05:25:00,562
that make this
particular decade of work
6834
05:25:00,585 --> 05:25:02,975
always so unique
to look back on.
6835
05:25:03,000 --> 05:25:05,009
It was also a decade where
it felt like special effects
6836
05:25:05,033 --> 05:25:07,596
were perfected in such a way,
you could almost smell them
6837
05:25:07,619 --> 05:25:10,251
through your screen,
something like "The Thing",
6838
05:25:10,275 --> 05:25:12,009
and speaking of "The
Thing", you could have
6839
05:25:12,033 --> 05:25:14,319
hard horror subject like that,
6840
05:25:14,344 --> 05:25:16,354
but you could have also
sillier stuff like "Vamp",
6841
05:25:16,379 --> 05:25:18,665
which makes this particular
decade always so fun
6842
05:25:18,688 --> 05:25:21,148
to go back and
discover new gems,
6843
05:25:21,171 --> 05:25:23,457
and I really am glad that
these documentaries exist
6844
05:25:23,481 --> 05:25:24,931
to highlight all of that.
6845
05:25:27,275 --> 05:25:30,665
Best thing about 80s horror
were the comedy movies,
6846
05:25:30,688 --> 05:25:33,837
like "The Burbs",
and "Gremlins 2",
6847
05:25:33,862 --> 05:25:35,837
"House", "House 2",
the "Ghostbusters",
6848
05:25:35,862 --> 05:25:37,975
all those movies made
it so much easier
6849
05:25:38,000 --> 05:25:40,802
as a kid to then turn
around and be able to watch
6850
05:25:40,827 --> 05:25:43,251
movies with this
scary bastard in it,
6851
05:25:43,275 --> 05:25:45,619
and scare the shit out of
you when you're a little kid.
6852
05:25:47,688 --> 05:25:49,492
John Carpenter, Wes
Craven, Tobe Hooper,
6853
05:25:49,516 --> 05:25:51,837
Tom Holland, Peter
Jackson, Sam Raimi,
6854
05:25:51,862 --> 05:25:53,562
Stewart Gordon, Don Coscarelli.
6855
05:25:53,585 --> 05:25:55,526
I just need an
indestructible boogeyman
6856
05:25:55,550 --> 05:25:57,526
carving up annoying teenagers.
6857
05:25:57,550 --> 05:25:58,802
I don't need to know how or why.
6858
05:25:58,827 --> 05:26:00,319
It just has to show
up every few years,
6859
05:26:00,344 --> 05:26:02,113
and do it again
in creative ways.
6860
05:26:02,136 --> 05:26:03,975
Give me a monster
with sharp teeth,
6861
05:26:04,000 --> 05:26:05,286
and gooey tentacles.
6862
05:26:05,310 --> 05:26:06,940
What I don't want
is found footage,
6863
05:26:06,965 --> 05:26:08,596
and shaky cam and
possessed dolls,
6864
05:26:08,619 --> 05:26:11,286
and cheesy ghosts, and
spare me all the CGI blood.
6865
05:26:11,310 --> 05:26:13,388
I want Tom Savini,
Screaming Mad George.
6866
05:26:13,413 --> 05:26:15,550
I want a Kurtzman
Nicotero hamburger.
6867
05:26:19,102 --> 05:26:19,907
Hey guys.
6868
05:26:19,932 --> 05:26:21,319
My name is Jason.
6869
05:26:21,344 --> 05:26:22,700
And no surprise, my
favorite horror franchise
6870
05:26:22,723 --> 05:26:24,802
of all time is
"Friday the 13th".
6871
05:26:24,827 --> 05:26:27,388
I did a book report on
Part 3 in grade six.
6872
05:26:27,413 --> 05:26:29,596
Yes, I was in grade six
watching these movies,
6873
05:26:29,619 --> 05:26:31,136
and I absolutely loved them.
6874
05:26:32,688 --> 05:26:35,492
I think the 80s is
absolutely the greatest decade
6875
05:26:35,516 --> 05:26:37,906
of horror films, and
I grew up in the 90s.
6876
05:26:37,931 --> 05:26:40,044
There were so many great
horror films made back then.
6877
05:26:40,067 --> 05:26:42,665
I can't even decide
which one's my favorite.
6878
05:26:42,688 --> 05:26:44,526
I also think "In Search of
Darkness" is the greatest
6879
05:26:44,550 --> 05:26:46,700
documentary ever made.
6880
05:26:46,723 --> 05:26:48,113
It introduced me to
several horror films
6881
05:26:48,136 --> 05:26:50,457
I had never heard of,
including "Sleepaway Camp",
6882
05:26:50,481 --> 05:26:52,044
"Fade to Black", "Motel Hell",
6883
05:26:52,067 --> 05:26:53,286
"American Werewolf in London",
6884
05:26:53,310 --> 05:26:55,700
"Society", "Scanners",
"The Changeling",
6885
05:26:55,723 --> 05:26:57,975
"The Ghost Story",
and so many more.
6886
05:26:58,000 --> 05:26:59,286
I don't think there
will ever be anything
6887
05:26:59,310 --> 05:27:01,171
like 80s horror ever again
6888
05:27:03,481 --> 05:27:04,975
Hello, everyone.
6889
05:27:05,000 --> 05:27:07,009
What I've enjoyed most about
the "In Search of Darkness"
6890
05:27:07,033 --> 05:27:09,388
documentary series
would have to be
6891
05:27:09,413 --> 05:27:12,388
the behind the scenes
information about the movies
6892
05:27:12,413 --> 05:27:16,975
I know and love, but also,
and probably more importantly,
6893
05:27:17,000 --> 05:27:19,631
the vast amount of hidden gems
6894
05:27:19,654 --> 05:27:21,319
it has introduced me to.
6895
05:27:21,344 --> 05:27:24,354
It is mind-blowing how many
entertaining horror movies
6896
05:27:24,379 --> 05:27:25,940
there are from that decade.
6897
05:27:25,965 --> 05:27:26,965
So thank you.
6898
05:27:28,723 --> 05:27:30,251
One of my favorite
1980s horror movies
6899
05:27:30,275 --> 05:27:32,113
would have to be
"Night of the Demons".
6900
05:27:32,136 --> 05:27:33,802
Reason being, I was pretty young
6901
05:27:33,827 --> 05:27:35,148
when the movie first came out.
6902
05:27:35,171 --> 05:27:36,734
My older sister
introduced me to the film
6903
05:27:36,758 --> 05:27:38,286
because she wanted to scare me.
6904
05:27:38,310 --> 05:27:39,769
It scared me pretty good.
6905
05:27:39,793 --> 05:27:41,769
I remember having a hard time
going to sleep that night,
6906
05:27:41,793 --> 05:27:44,000
scared that the monster
was gonna get me.
6907
05:27:45,448 --> 05:27:48,044
So I have a lot of nostalgic
feelings about the movie.
6908
05:27:48,067 --> 05:27:49,550
That's why I like it so much.
6909
05:27:51,723 --> 05:27:54,975
My first and absolute
favorite 80s horror movie
6910
05:27:55,000 --> 05:27:56,665
is "American Werewolf in London"
6911
05:27:56,688 --> 05:27:58,526
by John Landis.
6912
05:27:58,550 --> 05:28:01,562
Watching that movie sent
me down a rabbit hole
6913
05:28:01,585 --> 05:28:04,631
of 80s horror movies that
I'd never seen before,
6914
05:28:04,654 --> 05:28:06,457
and through that
movie, I got introduced
6915
05:28:06,481 --> 05:28:08,136
to "In Search of Darkness",
6916
05:28:09,550 --> 05:28:12,354
and ever since, things
have never been the same,
6917
05:28:12,379 --> 05:28:14,631
and it's been an
amazing journey.
6918
05:28:14,654 --> 05:28:15,862
I thank you for it.
6919
05:28:18,654 --> 05:28:21,182
80s horror is incredibly
important to me.
6920
05:28:21,205 --> 05:28:23,182
Horror slashed its
way into my life
6921
05:28:23,205 --> 05:28:24,423
when I was a kid.
6922
05:28:24,448 --> 05:28:26,354
Myself and my buddies
would stay up all night
6923
05:28:26,379 --> 05:28:28,526
watching horror movies,
from horror icons
6924
05:28:28,550 --> 05:28:30,526
like Freddie, to "Killer
Klowns from Outer Space".
6925
05:28:30,550 --> 05:28:32,526
The greatest times of my life
6926
05:28:32,550 --> 05:28:33,975
is due to the horror genre.
6927
05:28:34,000 --> 05:28:36,665
80s horror strapped
me into my adult life
6928
05:28:36,688 --> 05:28:39,251
where I now collect
80s horror memorabilia,
6929
05:28:39,275 --> 05:28:41,526
plus I'm always on the
hunt for 80s horror
6930
05:28:41,550 --> 05:28:42,975
that I'm yet to discover.
6931
05:28:43,000 --> 05:28:45,388
I have an insatiable
thirst for blood in film.
6932
05:28:45,413 --> 05:28:47,113
Tom Savini's work in the genre
6933
05:28:47,136 --> 05:28:48,802
has my jaw dropped to the floor.
6934
05:28:48,827 --> 05:28:50,975
The realism of his
work is something
6935
05:28:51,000 --> 05:28:53,423
that's gonna be admired
long after I'm gone.
6936
05:28:53,448 --> 05:28:56,423
For me, he sets the bar for
practical effects within horror.
6937
05:28:56,448 --> 05:28:58,286
I love "In Search of
Darkness", as it's
6938
05:28:58,310 --> 05:29:01,113
a time capsule of
horror, for us, the fans.
6939
05:29:01,136 --> 05:29:03,562
"In Search of Darkness"
is also a love letter
6940
05:29:03,585 --> 05:29:05,388
to everyone that
holds a special place
6941
05:29:05,413 --> 05:29:06,723
in their heart for horror.
6942
05:29:08,448 --> 05:29:10,837
I love how they use
all practical effects,
6943
05:29:10,862 --> 05:29:13,113
for these, all the
blood and guts,
6944
05:29:13,136 --> 05:29:15,526
all the rubber monsters
that they used,
6945
05:29:15,550 --> 05:29:17,802
all the costume work
is all hand made,
6946
05:29:17,827 --> 05:29:19,526
and all practically done.
6947
05:29:19,550 --> 05:29:21,136
It makes it look great.
6948
05:29:23,171 --> 05:29:26,044
The 80s was an era of DIY.
6949
05:29:26,067 --> 05:29:28,079
If you didn't have a
passion for your craft,
6950
05:29:28,102 --> 05:29:31,009
or you didn't want
your story to be told,
6951
05:29:31,033 --> 05:29:33,837
it simply wouldn't
make it out there.
6952
05:29:33,862 --> 05:29:36,009
This is what showed in
the films growing up,
6953
05:29:36,033 --> 05:29:37,802
which was hard.
6954
05:29:37,827 --> 05:29:40,354
It's difficult to
articulate this feeling.
6955
05:29:40,379 --> 05:29:42,769
However, every fan or
person contributing
6956
05:29:42,793 --> 05:29:46,079
to this series, will have
moments which resonated
6957
05:29:46,102 --> 05:29:48,688
and impacted into
their adult life.
6958
05:29:51,550 --> 05:29:53,113
What I love most about the 80s,
6959
05:29:53,136 --> 05:29:55,388
especially 80s horror movies,
6960
05:29:55,413 --> 05:29:58,113
is just how ridiculous
the concepts are,
6961
05:29:58,136 --> 05:30:00,793
and just how well
they're executed.
6962
05:30:02,758 --> 05:30:05,975
"In Search of Darkness"
meant a lot to me
6963
05:30:06,000 --> 05:30:09,388
because it introduced
me to a whole field,
6964
05:30:09,413 --> 05:30:11,079
a whole group of people,
6965
05:30:11,102 --> 05:30:14,562
that are so dedicated,
and so motivated,
6966
05:30:14,585 --> 05:30:17,700
on trying to find a
lot of 80s horror films
6967
05:30:17,723 --> 05:30:20,906
that not a lot of younger
horror film fans even heard of.
6968
05:30:20,931 --> 05:30:23,182
Sometimes y'all have
heard of "Halloween"
6969
05:30:23,205 --> 05:30:26,079
or "Friday the 13th", or
"Nightmare on Elm Street",
6970
05:30:26,102 --> 05:30:27,975
but it's these
small classic films
6971
05:30:28,000 --> 05:30:29,837
that really hold
deep to my heart,
6972
05:30:29,862 --> 05:30:31,182
knowing that a lot of
people have seen it
6973
05:30:31,205 --> 05:30:32,769
really brings joy to me.
6974
05:30:32,793 --> 05:30:34,379
That's why it meant a lot to me.
6975
05:30:38,033 --> 05:30:39,286
Hey, I'm Twisted Todd.
6976
05:30:39,310 --> 05:30:40,769
I'm a big fan of
80s horror films,
6977
05:30:40,793 --> 05:30:42,665
mainly because as a kid
growing up in the 80s,
6978
05:30:42,688 --> 05:30:43,871
didn't get to watch a
lot of horror movies,
6979
05:30:43,896 --> 05:30:45,769
but my parents
rented a lot of them,
6980
05:30:45,793 --> 05:30:47,044
and I got to hear
them from my bedroom,
6981
05:30:47,067 --> 05:30:48,354
which fed my curiosity,
6982
05:30:48,379 --> 05:30:49,871
so about the time I
was in middle school
6983
05:30:49,896 --> 05:30:52,044
in the late 80s, finally
got to watch horror films,
6984
05:30:52,067 --> 05:30:53,700
fell in love with
the slasher genre,
6985
05:30:53,723 --> 05:30:55,388
love films like "Creepshow",
6986
05:30:55,413 --> 05:30:57,217
and then later on
in my college days,
6987
05:30:57,241 --> 05:31:00,388
I really fell in love
with the cinematic genius
6988
05:31:00,413 --> 05:31:02,009
of directors like
John Carpenter,
6989
05:31:02,033 --> 05:31:03,251
and of course Sam Raimi,
6990
05:31:03,275 --> 05:31:05,000
because I'm a huge
"Evil Dead" fan.
6991
05:31:07,102 --> 05:31:09,562
I grew up mesmerized
by horror movies,
6992
05:31:09,585 --> 05:31:11,871
primarily throughout the 80s.
6993
05:31:11,896 --> 05:31:13,940
They were such an important part
6994
05:31:13,965 --> 05:31:15,940
of many of my formative years,
6995
05:31:15,965 --> 05:31:19,423
and contribute to so many
of my young memories.
6996
05:31:19,448 --> 05:31:21,665
I've since come to
embrace and enjoy
6997
05:31:21,688 --> 05:31:23,769
all cinema, having
learned so much more
6998
05:31:23,793 --> 05:31:26,354
about all genres over the years,
6999
05:31:26,379 --> 05:31:28,241
but you never forget
your first love.
7000
05:31:30,413 --> 05:31:31,631
Horror films of the 80s
7001
05:31:31,654 --> 05:31:34,734
were so imaginative,
and so ambitious,
7002
05:31:34,758 --> 05:31:37,217
but they pull it off,
and there's a real
7003
05:31:37,241 --> 05:31:38,871
charm to them, a levity
that we didn't have
7004
05:31:38,896 --> 05:31:41,217
in the 70s, when
everything was very real,
7005
05:31:41,241 --> 05:31:42,975
and very gritty,
and then we lost it
7006
05:31:43,000 --> 05:31:44,319
somewhere in the 90s,
7007
05:31:44,344 --> 05:31:46,217
and then things
got very cynical.
7008
05:31:46,241 --> 05:31:48,113
But there's a fun
factor to the 80s,
7009
05:31:48,136 --> 05:31:51,113
and it's no surprise
that it takes a project
7010
05:31:51,136 --> 05:31:53,492
three, four plus
hour documentaries
7011
05:31:53,516 --> 05:31:55,481
to really do that
decade justice.
7012
05:31:57,481 --> 05:31:59,044
Growing up in the
80s, horror movies
7013
05:31:59,067 --> 05:32:00,492
were a big part of my life.
7014
05:32:00,516 --> 05:32:02,148
Thanks to a video rentals shop,
7015
05:32:02,171 --> 05:32:03,562
I was able to watch
as many as I want
7016
05:32:03,585 --> 05:32:06,596
when I wanted without
issue on my edge,
7017
05:32:06,619 --> 05:32:07,975
that helped me get through
the trauma of school,
7018
05:32:08,000 --> 05:32:09,769
and everything
that came with it,
7019
05:32:09,793 --> 05:32:11,975
and this is why I'm
passionate about them,
7020
05:32:12,000 --> 05:32:14,217
and in particular,
"Nightmare on Elm Street"
7021
05:32:14,241 --> 05:32:16,413
is one I'm really
passionate about.
7022
05:32:20,481 --> 05:32:23,596
80s horror movies were a
big part of my childhood,
7023
05:32:23,619 --> 05:32:25,665
having grown up in the 80s,
7024
05:32:25,688 --> 05:32:27,665
I watched them all.
7025
05:32:27,688 --> 05:32:30,940
My favorite 80s horror
movie of all time
7026
05:32:30,965 --> 05:32:33,148
is "A Nightmare on Elm Street".
7027
05:32:33,171 --> 05:32:36,734
It was the first horror
movie I ever saw,
7028
05:32:36,758 --> 05:32:40,217
and it planted the seed
for my love of horror.
7029
05:32:40,241 --> 05:32:42,457
These "Search for
Darkness" documentaries
7030
05:32:42,481 --> 05:32:45,562
have been nostalgic,
and brought back
7031
05:32:45,585 --> 05:32:49,379
all those happy memories
of visiting video stores.
7032
05:32:51,481 --> 05:32:52,940
I was born in 1980,
7033
05:32:52,965 --> 05:32:54,526
so being a child of the 80s,
7034
05:32:54,550 --> 05:32:55,906
some of my best memories
7035
05:32:55,931 --> 05:32:56,838
were hanging out with my mom
7036
05:32:56,863 --> 05:32:58,354
on a Friday or Saturday night,
7037
05:32:58,379 --> 05:33:00,113
going down to the
local video store,
7038
05:33:00,136 --> 05:33:03,492
getting some 80s
horror on VHS tape,
7039
05:33:03,516 --> 05:33:04,700
and just making those memories
7040
05:33:04,723 --> 05:33:06,423
and being scared, laughing,
7041
05:33:06,448 --> 05:33:08,319
and getting all cringed up.
7042
05:33:08,344 --> 05:33:10,286
And the "In Search
of Darkness" series
7043
05:33:10,310 --> 05:33:12,526
has brought those
memories back to me,
7044
05:33:12,550 --> 05:33:14,769
and helped me discover
all the horror films
7045
05:33:14,793 --> 05:33:16,113
I never knew existed!
7046
05:33:16,136 --> 05:33:17,136
Thank you for that.
7047
05:33:19,793 --> 05:33:20,975
Hi there.
7048
05:33:21,000 --> 05:33:22,700
I love watching horror
movie documentaries
7049
05:33:22,723 --> 05:33:24,251
and anything regarding horror,
7050
05:33:24,275 --> 05:33:25,906
but one series I really love
7051
05:33:25,931 --> 05:33:28,423
is the "In Search
of Darkness" series.
7052
05:33:28,448 --> 05:33:30,319
I love how all these
people just show
7053
05:33:30,344 --> 05:33:32,319
how much they love and
care for these movies,
7054
05:33:32,344 --> 05:33:34,665
especially for the movies
I've never even heard before,
7055
05:33:34,688 --> 05:33:37,286
and I love this series,
because it shows me
7056
05:33:37,310 --> 05:33:38,562
all different kinds of horror
7057
05:33:38,585 --> 05:33:40,596
that I haven't
even heard before,
7058
05:33:40,619 --> 05:33:42,975
or even seen, or
anything like that.
7059
05:33:43,000 --> 05:33:44,802
So I'm sad that it's ending,
7060
05:33:44,827 --> 05:33:47,481
but hey, gotta end
sometimes, right?
7061
05:33:49,965 --> 05:33:51,286
I think most horror
fans would agree
7062
05:33:51,310 --> 05:33:53,319
that the absolute
best decade for horror
7063
05:33:53,344 --> 05:33:54,492
was the 1980s.
7064
05:33:54,516 --> 05:33:55,906
We got the best of the best,
7065
05:33:55,931 --> 05:33:57,182
the worst of the worst,
7066
05:33:57,205 --> 05:33:58,319
the best of the worst,
7067
05:33:58,344 --> 05:33:59,769
and everything in between.
7068
05:33:59,793 --> 05:34:00,975
I can't even pick a favorite,
7069
05:34:01,000 --> 05:34:02,769
because there's far too
many to choose from,
7070
05:34:02,793 --> 05:34:04,631
but having something like
the "In Search of Darkness"
7071
05:34:04,654 --> 05:34:07,526
trilogy has been an
absolute dream come true.
7072
05:34:07,550 --> 05:34:09,871
Getting to sit there for
hours and hours on end,
7073
05:34:09,896 --> 05:34:11,631
and watch my favorite filmmakers
7074
05:34:11,654 --> 05:34:13,734
talk about my favorite
films has been great,
7075
05:34:13,758 --> 05:34:16,009
but it's also been great
to be able to discover
7076
05:34:16,033 --> 05:34:18,654
new movies that I may not
have even heard of before.
7077
05:34:20,931 --> 05:34:23,251
"Evil Dead II", "Re-Animator",
7078
05:34:23,275 --> 05:34:25,734
"The Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2",
7079
05:34:25,758 --> 05:34:29,665
all of these great horror films,
7080
05:34:29,688 --> 05:34:33,654
with comedic timing,
comedy inserted into it,
7081
05:34:34,793 --> 05:34:36,975
really affect me, shape me,
7082
05:34:37,000 --> 05:34:41,734
to such a degree that
today I write about horror
7083
05:34:41,758 --> 05:34:45,000
and horror comedy for
Pace Magazine and Vulture.
7084
05:34:50,275 --> 05:34:53,526
80s horror for me
signifies complete nostalgia.
7085
05:34:53,550 --> 05:34:55,492
I clearly remember
being a young boy
7086
05:34:55,516 --> 05:34:58,286
and seeing these wonderful
and iconic 80s posters,
7087
05:34:58,310 --> 05:35:01,526
and being simultaneously
scared and intrigued.
7088
05:35:01,550 --> 05:35:04,388
But now as an academic
that writes about horror,
7089
05:35:04,413 --> 05:35:06,148
documentaries like "In
Search of Darkness"
7090
05:35:06,171 --> 05:35:08,492
are highly important as
they raise the profile
7091
05:35:08,516 --> 05:35:10,148
of horrors in that form.
7092
05:35:10,171 --> 05:35:12,734
These films are not
only fun and super cool,
7093
05:35:12,758 --> 05:35:15,665
but they are significant
cultural products,
7094
05:35:15,688 --> 05:35:18,516
well-deserving of academic
analysis and study.
7095
05:35:21,000 --> 05:35:24,837
The 80s was a time when
the horror genre exploded.
7096
05:35:24,862 --> 05:35:27,492
Big name horror icons
like Jason, Freddie,
7097
05:35:27,516 --> 05:35:30,388
Chuckie, Pinhead, all got
their start in the 80s.
7098
05:35:30,413 --> 05:35:32,940
And being a late 90s
kid, these were names
7099
05:35:32,965 --> 05:35:35,975
that I grew up knowing to fear.
7100
05:35:36,000 --> 05:35:37,734
My girlfriend and I searched out
7101
05:35:37,758 --> 05:35:39,286
a lot of these films,
and it was something
7102
05:35:39,310 --> 05:35:41,182
that we could always bond over.
7103
05:35:41,205 --> 05:35:43,079
And I think that "In
Search of Darkness"
7104
05:35:43,102 --> 05:35:44,700
did something really great,
7105
05:35:44,723 --> 05:35:48,000
cataloging and celebrating
all of these films.
7106
05:35:50,000 --> 05:35:51,975
They have inspired
me to go to college
7107
05:35:52,000 --> 05:35:54,492
and learn how to
write horror films.
7108
05:35:54,516 --> 05:35:55,734
I'm a future filmmaker
7109
05:35:55,758 --> 05:35:58,275
because of all the
movies I've watched.
7110
05:35:59,896 --> 05:36:01,596
And I'm thankful that I was able
7111
05:36:01,619 --> 05:36:03,481
to be a part of this community.
7112
05:36:06,275 --> 05:36:08,975
Watching horror movies
as a kid in the 80s
7113
05:36:09,000 --> 05:36:11,665
inspired me to get
into the film industry,
7114
05:36:11,688 --> 05:36:15,009
especially to make
horror movies of my own,
7115
05:36:15,033 --> 05:36:17,354
and so "In Search of
Darkness" continues
7116
05:36:17,379 --> 05:36:19,596
to be that inspiration,
7117
05:36:19,619 --> 05:36:22,388
and I hope it does the same
7118
05:36:22,413 --> 05:36:25,457
for the next wave
of horror creators,
7119
05:36:25,481 --> 05:36:26,931
for generations to come.
7120
05:36:29,896 --> 05:36:31,319
80s horror means a lot to me,
7121
05:36:31,344 --> 05:36:32,631
takes me back to
when I was a kid
7122
05:36:32,654 --> 05:36:34,457
hanging out with my
brothers and my friends,
7123
05:36:34,481 --> 05:36:36,665
staying up late, watching
movies I know I should not
7124
05:36:36,688 --> 05:36:38,113
have been watching at the time,
7125
05:36:38,136 --> 05:36:39,975
and falling in love with
stories and characters
7126
05:36:40,000 --> 05:36:42,113
created by Wes Craven,
John Carpenter,
7127
05:36:42,136 --> 05:36:44,217
George Romero, and Charles Band.
7128
05:36:44,241 --> 05:36:45,734
I will always be in their debt
7129
05:36:45,758 --> 05:36:47,562
for providing me with
hours of entertainment,
7130
05:36:47,585 --> 05:36:48,975
and with "In Search
of Darkness",
7131
05:36:49,000 --> 05:36:50,940
it has provided me
with even more hours
7132
05:36:50,965 --> 05:36:52,217
of 80s horror entertainment
7133
05:36:52,241 --> 05:36:54,802
that I will continue
to watch to this day.
7134
05:36:54,827 --> 05:36:57,965
Long live 80s horror and
"In Search of Darkness".
7135
05:37:01,619 --> 05:37:04,665
As an 80s kid, one
of my favorite memories
7136
05:37:04,688 --> 05:37:08,837
are from video stores Friday
night selecting movies.
7137
05:37:08,862 --> 05:37:11,492
The horror section always
had the best films,
7138
05:37:11,516 --> 05:37:13,344
and the most amazing cover art.
7139
05:37:14,619 --> 05:37:16,940
The 80s horror
basically has it all,
7140
05:37:16,965 --> 05:37:19,319
a great story, a good cast,
7141
05:37:19,344 --> 05:37:22,275
amazing special effects,
and a cool soundtrack.
7142
05:37:24,723 --> 05:37:27,457
These documentaries have
been life-changing for me.
7143
05:37:27,481 --> 05:37:30,009
They were films that
I had forgotten about,
7144
05:37:30,033 --> 05:37:32,251
films that I had never seen,
7145
05:37:32,275 --> 05:37:35,562
and a love for a distinct period
7146
05:37:35,585 --> 05:37:39,975
of my early life that
I oftentimes feel
disconnected from,
7147
05:37:40,000 --> 05:37:44,319
and I'm so thankful to
have found these projects,
7148
05:37:44,344 --> 05:37:46,033
and been able to
back all of them.
7149
05:37:48,344 --> 05:37:49,344
Thank you.
7150
05:37:51,793 --> 05:37:53,516
All the best parts of nostalgia
7151
05:37:55,171 --> 05:37:56,837
in a pool of blood.
7152
05:37:56,862 --> 05:37:57,862
Love it.
7153
05:37:59,758 --> 05:38:01,286
Hey, this is Jacob.
7154
05:38:01,310 --> 05:38:02,526
And Angelica.
7155
05:38:02,550 --> 05:38:04,457
We're both fans of
80s horror movies.
7156
05:38:04,481 --> 05:38:06,871
That's why we own
all three volumes
7157
05:38:06,896 --> 05:38:08,526
of "In Search of Darkness".
7158
05:38:08,550 --> 05:38:11,079
It's a dictionary, basically,
of all the greatest
7159
05:38:11,102 --> 05:38:13,251
horror movies made from the 80s
7160
05:38:13,275 --> 05:38:15,182
that we've all grown to love.
7161
05:38:15,205 --> 05:38:17,205
"In Search of
Darkness", you rock.
7162
05:38:20,448 --> 05:38:22,286
The "In Search of
Darkness" documentaries
7163
05:38:22,310 --> 05:38:24,526
have allowed me to
relive, year by year,
7164
05:38:24,550 --> 05:38:26,871
a truly golden age
in horror cinema.
7165
05:38:26,896 --> 05:38:28,837
In the 80s, we had
directors like Carpenter,
7166
05:38:28,862 --> 05:38:31,423
Romero, and Cronenberg in
the peak of their career.
7167
05:38:31,448 --> 05:38:33,631
We had a new generation of
practical special effects
7168
05:38:33,654 --> 05:38:36,492
in horror cinema, and
video stores coming out
7169
05:38:36,516 --> 05:38:38,251
with a new horror
title every week.
7170
05:38:38,275 --> 05:38:40,182
The fact that we're still
talking about all these films
7171
05:38:40,205 --> 05:38:42,457
over 30 years later
just shows how durable
7172
05:38:42,481 --> 05:38:44,044
the horror genre is.
7173
05:38:44,067 --> 05:38:46,516
So please, keep those
documentaries coming.
7174
05:38:51,448 --> 05:38:52,665
Hi.
7175
05:38:52,688 --> 05:38:54,182
First of all, I
want to thank you
7176
05:38:54,205 --> 05:38:56,492
for including us
fans in so many ways,
7177
05:38:56,516 --> 05:38:58,492
and for the journey
you've been taking us
7178
05:38:58,516 --> 05:39:01,182
for the three "In Search
of Darkness" documentaries.
7179
05:39:01,205 --> 05:39:03,871
I love 80s horror so much
because of the style,
7180
05:39:03,896 --> 05:39:06,734
the creativity, and the
passion for each of the films.
7181
05:39:06,758 --> 05:39:09,217
But the most important
part for me is
7182
05:39:09,241 --> 05:39:12,148
that every single film
from this horror decade,
7183
05:39:12,171 --> 05:39:13,388
the good and the bad,
7184
05:39:13,413 --> 05:39:16,000
are so great because
of the fun they make.
7185
05:39:20,102 --> 05:39:22,182
David, Robin.
7186
05:39:22,205 --> 05:39:24,286
You've created a monster.
7187
05:39:24,310 --> 05:39:26,975
A timeless milestone
for every horror fan.
7188
05:39:27,000 --> 05:39:29,079
And I'm extremely thankful
for being featured
7189
05:39:29,102 --> 05:39:32,631
in part one of the ultimate
horror documentary experience.
7190
05:39:32,654 --> 05:39:35,251
It made me feel
like I'm 15 again.
7191
05:39:35,275 --> 05:39:38,079
So for anyone who's "In
Search of Darkness",
7192
05:39:38,102 --> 05:39:40,654
stop searching,
because we found it.
7193
05:39:43,275 --> 05:39:45,423
80s horror is so important to me
7194
05:39:45,448 --> 05:39:49,182
because it gave me ideas
to draw when I was younger,
7195
05:39:49,205 --> 05:39:51,596
and as my drawing
ability progressed,
7196
05:39:51,619 --> 05:39:53,837
today I'm a tattoo artist,
7197
05:39:53,862 --> 05:39:57,113
so I guess you could say 80s
horror helped shape my life.
7198
05:39:57,136 --> 05:39:58,734
Plus being Canadian,
I want to give
7199
05:39:58,758 --> 05:40:00,631
a special thanks
to David Cronenberg
7200
05:40:00,654 --> 05:40:03,009
for all the
inspiration he gave me.
7201
05:40:03,033 --> 05:40:05,251
"In Search of
Darkness", honestly,
7202
05:40:05,275 --> 05:40:07,975
greatest documentary
I have ever watched.
7203
05:40:08,000 --> 05:40:10,354
It brought me straight
back to some of the most
7204
05:40:10,379 --> 05:40:12,000
special times of my life.
7205
05:40:14,448 --> 05:40:16,596
As a kid in the
80s, I was constantly
7206
05:40:16,619 --> 05:40:19,286
in and out of hospitals.
7207
05:40:19,310 --> 05:40:21,975
Watching horror movies
and playing video games
7208
05:40:22,000 --> 05:40:23,171
was a release for me.
7209
05:40:24,344 --> 05:40:26,217
Basically, I'm the
kid on the box art,
7210
05:40:26,241 --> 05:40:28,000
and on the posters.
7211
05:40:29,448 --> 05:40:32,700
I'm so proud to be part
of this incredible journey
7212
05:40:32,723 --> 05:40:35,631
through 80s horror that is
the "In Search of Darkness"
7213
05:40:35,654 --> 05:40:40,310
trilogy, and I just had to
immortalize it on my body.
7214
05:40:45,481 --> 05:40:46,975
I love it that we're done.
7215
05:40:47,000 --> 05:40:48,241
I love it.
7216
05:40:49,067 --> 05:40:50,067
Love it.
7217
05:40:52,896 --> 05:40:54,413
Enough is never enough
7218
05:40:56,862 --> 05:40:57,862
of the star.
7219
05:41:00,723 --> 05:41:01,723
Mm.
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