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- All right, the excitement
continues: Paul Morrissey.
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- The legendary Paul Morrissey.
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_ Legendary.
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(audience cheers)
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- Thank you, thank you.
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- How did you first begin making films?
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You started making short films.
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What led you to become a filmmaker?
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- That's a good question.
I never thought of it.
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Got out of a college, went
in the army for a few months,
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then I went to work for
an insurance company,
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looking at pages and
changing words and crap.
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And then, I think I
did something purposely
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to get on welfare, whatever
it is, unemployment insurance.
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Went back to another insurance company,
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but during that period,
nobody made their own films.
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There was some little, once a month in the
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East Village, Jonas Mekas would
screen footage of somebody.
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I'm watching the garbage.
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I needed a place to live
in Manhattan for all that.
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Before I lived in the Bronx,
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and I looked at the
apartments that were available
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in the Bowery on 4th street, and really,
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you could rent an apartment, you know?
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You went in the door and there
was a bathtub and a stove,
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I guess, a chair and a bed.
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And there was a bathroom down the hall,
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but the rents were like $26 a month.
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Now, those rents are
$2,600 on the same side.
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Anyway,
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I saw this apartment and as I came up,
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the first floor was an
old store on 4th street,
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very close on the Bowery,
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across the street from the famous --
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one of the greatest, the
oldest house in New York.
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Luckily, it's been preserved.
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It's in the middle of
the 19th century. Anyway,
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I said, "What's the store?
Nobody lives there?"
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He said no one.
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I said, how much is the rent?
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He said it's about $50 a month.
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And I looked at this big
high ceiling and a bathroom,
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and you didn't have to climb any stairs.
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So, I lived in this storefront.
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Not many people were doing that.
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And then I realized, if bought
a projector or something,
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I could project movies
from one end to the other,
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and I could have a Nickelodeon,
which is what it was.
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And I got some people,
maybe in the newspaper,
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who made some footage or something,
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and I went to the public library.
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You can take out a film they had for rent.
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And I started showing movies
on Saturdays and Sundays, and
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then I started shooting my own
things and projecting them.
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So, I started at the very base.
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(whistles) What's that whistling?
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I started at the lowest way
you could literally begin,
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where the movies began originally,
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on the Bowery with nickelodeons.
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And then I started shooting
longer versions of things,
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like 20 minutes or 25 minutes.
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But my films were never experimental.
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They were always in the
tradition of silent movies.
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People went around and
walked about and met people
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and never spoke and that, no sound,
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and so that's where it began.
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There were other people who
started doing what I did:
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rent stores and show movies,
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but it never came to anything
much that I know about.
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What's the next question?
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- Well, I didn't get to
talk to Art before this,
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but I would like to ask you
about The Velvet Underground.
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- The Velvet Underwear, I called them.
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They were -- well, one
of them was a terrible,
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hideous human being. Two
of them are really nice.
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And one, it was the gifted
one from Wales, John Cale,
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he didn't seem to know what to do.
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I became an agent and
the manager for somebody
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named Andy Warhol, who didn't do anything,
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but he understood that if
someone's going to buy something
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they call modern art, they
don't buy it for the art,
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they buy the name on the art.
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So, you go in and you say, oh, oh,
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you got something by
Lady Gaga. That's great.
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Must've paid money, because she's famous.
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That's all it was, all modern art.
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But especially him. They're all like that.
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And my job was to do
things that would get --
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that he would present to
have his name in the paper.
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So, I presented movies that
I made with his camera.
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He never could make a movie.
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Couldn't decide, he couldn't --
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he was autistic beyond belief.
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He couldn't read or write. Anyway --
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and the thing is, what was
I talking about before?
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Oh, I did movies. I did this, I did that.
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Later, I started an
idiot newspaper called,
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Interviews to the Business,
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and he would pay the bills,
but the bills were tiny.
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And the films I made were a
couple of thousand dollars.
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I made them on Saturday afternoons,
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two or three hours at a time.
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But somebody said to me,
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because I could take still
photographs, whatever,
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they wanted a picture of
this rock n' roll group
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that had just started today. That day.
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Could I come tomorrow or something?
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Or come that day and
take pictures of them.
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And it was in the West
Village, terrible little place.
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Whatever they called them, I
forget what they're called,
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and they were playing
with the -- (viola noises)
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The viola was the big
instrument and I spoke to them.
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I said, you started yesterday,
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do you have a manager? No. I said, oh.
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Well, I think I could manage you,
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meaning support them. They had no money.
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And I told Andy the next day,
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I said, you gotta come
tonight, see this real --
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support this rock n' roll group,
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and your name with it in the paper.
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He was trembling. He hated them.
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And not that he hated them,
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he just hated the idea
of spending any money.
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And it went on for a number of months,
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until I got them jobs here and there.
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And then they take Andy's picture.
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That's all he cared about.
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And I got them to sign the contract,
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and then I took a few
thousand dollars of Andy's
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and produced the record
album. The only one.
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The first one. The only one
I think he would listen to.
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And I got them bookings in
Los Angeles, San Francisco,
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but the toilet -- what's it called?
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The Swillmore Auditorium in San Francisco,
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and they got to be well-known.
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They didn't release the
record for a long time,
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but it got Andy's name
all over the country
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as if he was involved with rook n' roll,
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so it was one of the things that made
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his name and got the deal
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to raise the price on the
silkscreens at The Factory
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he did downtown, Lower East Side.
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He never even laid eyes on these guys.
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That's what I did with
the Velvet Underwear.
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It was very unpleasant
dealing with one of them.
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I also had to get rid of them
after a year, so, anyway.
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- Before we go further,
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why have you not done so
many public appearances
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in recent years?
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You must be being asked to be --
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you own, at least, I think, what, 10 or so
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of your own movies still?
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- More than that, even.
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- And you're still making movies.
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You made a movie recently.
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Why not the public appearances?
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- I think it's idiotic. I don't know.
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I mean, I'm not trying to sell
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some piece of shit called modern art.
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I mean, if a movie's any
good, the movie should
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attract people,
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but going and having your picture taken,
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they all seem to do it now.
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Everybody in Hollywood that has a career,
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they have to go out and
have their picture taken,
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take a picture, take a picture.
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If that's what works for
them, let them go on,
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it's just the movies
don't seem so good to me.
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I loved the movies of
Hollywood studios up until '60.
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By that time, they went
out of business, studios.
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But I always like to say
the greatest thing that ever
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happened in the history of motion pictures
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is something called Turner Classic Movies.
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To see the movies made in
the '20s and the '10s, and
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'30s and the '40s, until
they started disappearing
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in the '50s. Even in the '50s,
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some great films were made.
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After 1960, the studios didn't exist.
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Very few halfway decent movies
were made the last 5O years.
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Recently, Turner showed some
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Fatty Arbuckle movies, and he was famous.
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He was fat and he was very
popular, and they were very good.
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They were very funny.
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And one of them was made in 1913.
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Another was 1914. That's 99
years ago, a century ago.
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And to see people, the way they look,
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the way they dress, the streets, the cars,
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and to be entertained, is wonderful.
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So, they've been making
good movies for a long time.
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And I think the greatest thing
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in the history of television
is Turner Classic Movies.
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I'm sure they'll disappear
soon and they'll put nothing
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but crap on instead and commercials.
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And now, they show a lot of garbage.
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You don't want to waste time,
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but they still show films,
usually late at night, from
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the early '20s, early '30s.
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And you take a tape, record
them and see them all the time.
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It's wonderful.
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The great movies and studios
depended on their stars,
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and stars had their personalities,
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and the personality was
the same in every movie.
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Cary Grant was Cary Grant in
every movie. Katherine Hepburn.
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They were all the same.
Greta Garbo was Greta Garbo
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in every movie.
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Now, these kind of acting class people,
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with their hideous new
character shit things,
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where they're upset for the whole movie,
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I find it unwatchable and
nd l find it artificial.
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(cell phone rings)
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How'd I carry this with me?
Should have turned it off.
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It went dead.
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Want to take my picture? Hey, bye.
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But the point is, if I was
selling underwear, or, you know,
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a department store fashion
-- you had the picture taken.
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If your name is famous,
they buy the underwear.
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Your name is famous, they
buy the thing on the wall
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they call art. That's obvious, isn't it?
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But I don't think it contributes
to anything. I dunno.
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- I'd like to ask --
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- Oh, by the way, Greta Garbo
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never went to a public event in her life,
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and she remains the most extraordinary
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woman of the 20th
century, if not all time.
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She was absolutely one of a kind.
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And they knew it at the time.
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Now, God only knows
who they think is good,
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but she was great. Okay.
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- I'd like to ask about
two of your earlier films,
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Trash and Heat.
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Joe Dallesandro, actually,
I'd like to ask about.
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So, was he a natural actor?
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(cell phone rings)
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- That's him, it's Joe!
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(cell phone rings)
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- Hello?
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I can't talk, I'll call you later.
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Well, any good actor is a natural actor.
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They should be themselves.
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They should be -- their
personality in real life
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should be more or less
what you see on the screen.
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Now, you know, John Wayne
wasn't shooting anybody.
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Greta Garbo wasn't giving
men dirty looks like that.
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But their personality,
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what they did in front of the camera,
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are extremely close. That's
the way it should be.
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- For both of those
films, you created them.
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- I wrote them. I cast them,
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I produced them, I directed them,
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I photographed them, I edited them,
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I distributed them, I own them.
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Is there anything more I could have done?
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- N0, I think you did it all.
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- And I did it all by myself.
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- What I'm trying to say is, though, that
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those movies are of a time
and they're like a capsule.
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What were you -- was there something
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you were trying to create?
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- I wasn't trying to capture
a capsule at the time,
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I was just trying to make a
good movie with interesting
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people, and a story that
other people weren't telling.
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I had three, four thousand dollars
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to make a whole movie
on Saturday afternoons,
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two to three hours in the afternoon,
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on a couple of afternoons,
other people had 3 million,
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or 3O million.
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I was doing something that I
think was perfectly okay to do.
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- Do you have a preference
of the two that you like?
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- No, I like them all,
I like all my movies.
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I like Spike of Bensonhurst.
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My favorite is almost Beethoven's Nephew,
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which nobody has seen,
because there's a true story
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of Beethoven's, which nobody's
ever wanted to tell it.
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Everybody knows what it was,
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but boy, was he a monster.
Should have been a horror movie.
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I like them all, yeah.
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- What about the films you shot
at Europe and you were given
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for you, significant budgets,
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budgets that you hadn't
really worked with before.
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What was it like finally work
-- even though they're low,
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certainly low budget pictures.
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What was it like working
with a budget for a change?
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- Very nice. It seemed easy.
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Carlo Ponti was my producer and
he couldn't have been nicer,
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and he didn't bother me one bit.
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Do what you want. I met him
and I had a guy, a producer,
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who was going to do
another film for him in 3D.
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And I was going to do it in 3D.
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And the producer was to do a
Frankenstein 3D. Said okay.
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So, Carlo Ponti just
asked me a few questions.
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He had been a lawyer. He
was a very quiet type.
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He was not a loud Italian.
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And he said, oh,
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how much money does it cost
to make a Frankenstein in 3D?
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I have no idea.
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My films cost four or
five thousand dollars.
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He said, how much time would it take?
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I was just shocked to get
the -- I said, oh, well,
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about three weeks. I just made it up.
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Oh good. Then he paused, and he said,
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how much would it cost? Again,
I didn't know what to say.
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I said $300,000. He said, oh that's good.
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And then he paused and he said,
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he was a very smart man, obviously.
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He said, oh, why don't you do two?
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Do another one for $300,000, three weeks.
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I thought, okay. There was another pause.
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The guy next to me
didn't know what to say.
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He said, what would the other one be?
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And I -- Dracula, oh, good. That was it.
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He said if you cast the
girl in the first movie,
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send her in after you cast
her, do what you want,
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he didn't ask me. He said,
do you have a script?
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I said, no, I'll make it up each day.
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He said, okay. I couldn't
believe how nice he was.
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He was very nice. And I did it.
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And I went with the big crew and a great,
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nice cameraman, and not a huge group.
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And then the first day I told
the actors what to say and
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they couldn't believe,
they couldn't remember it.
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And I said to myself, my God,
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I have to type it up every
morning and give it to them.
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And I did,
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I got a typist and I dictated it to her
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on the way to the set in the car.
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Setting up the shot, she typed it up,
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I handed it to the
actors, they memorized it.
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I out it and photographed it.
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I did exactly that every
day. And then Frankenstein
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might have been three
weeks and a day or two, and
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I had lunch break.
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And after lunch, one o'clock or whatever,
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I began Dracula. The day
I finished Frankenstein.
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So, I had to write scripts for
two different movies, and I
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made that in three weeks, too.
Carlo Ponti was very happy.
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Anyway, I made a film
in Vienna, Beethoven.
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I made a film in Paris,
made a film in London
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with Peter Cook and Dudley Moore
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that was not successful at all.
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I made a film somewhere else,
I can't remember. California.
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- The Hound of the Baskervilles,
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which was with Peter
Cook and Dudley Moore.
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You said it wasn't successful.
Why do you think that was?
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- I know why it wasn't.
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The producer was all nice.
And Peter Cook was nice.
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I didn't know Dudley
Moore, but he was not nice.
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He was not happy.
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And I was told by the producer
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that Peter Cook said that
I could write a third,
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he would write a third, Dudley
Moore would write a third.
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I said, oh my god, what the hell is that?
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But I had all these other actors in it
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from the Carry On films, like
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Terry Thomas is a great, great actor,
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everbody famous in these comedies.
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I only wrote a part of
it, and I think they
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got the funny laughs.
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Things written by Peter
Hook and Dudley Moore,
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weren't good, I just had to
sit there and photograph them.
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I think it's a cute movie
because it's so ridiculous,
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but it's not really funny.
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So, I didn't like losing any
control and I never did again.
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- You retain the rights to
several of your movies still.
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Do you have any future
plans to rerelease them?
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- Streaming. Yeah.
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I'm not going to get into a
distributor who does what he
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wants for 5, 6, 7, 8 years.
I'll never see a penny.
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Every step of the way, I
distributed my films, deals
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with this one, this is ever a good deal.
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Trash was the only film
I had a good distributor.
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He was a wonderful man. He
opened all these big foreign
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films and then he bought my film.
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I couldn't believe it, it was like,
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like my Fellini films
would go or something.
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And it did very well
and he paid extra money,
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but he was the only one.
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And he died of a brain tumor
soon after he did my film,
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a year or two later.
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It's a very bad business
to try and make money in,
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unless you're getting 3, 5,
10, $20 million in advance,
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the accountant, the accountant
takes in all the money and
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distributes it. But that's
at the top of the line.
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It's a lot of money out there
for that. But small films,
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I don't think make money.
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- How did you come to cast Udo Kier?
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- Well, I met Udo Kier,
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I remembered he was German,
and I contacted him somehow.
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I told him, come here, lets
make some movies, he said sure.
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Simple as that. I never
tested anybody for a part.
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Never. I cast instinctively,
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and I've been very fortunate
with all the people I've cast.
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- Forty Deuce. So, I
wanted to ask about that.
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- Two people owned it. One was
a very dishonest human being
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and the other one was a Frenchman.
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They never reached an agreement.
It was never distributed,
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because the guy was --
one guy was a billionaire,
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the other one was just
a poor, French producer.
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It was only shown, I think, in France.
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It was a film I liked
a lot, based on a play.
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The cast had done the play,
except for one change I made.
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And it was very unusual for him.
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I don't know if anybody's ever seen it.
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- I have..
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- You've seen it?
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- Yes.
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- You remember what's so odd about it?
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I remember I made it in five days.
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It might've been a movie.
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I did four days on the
streets of New York,
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and then the other 45 minutes,
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I did with two cameras
operating at the same time.
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And the actors would go from
one side of the stage from the
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theater --you couldn't tell
-- into the screen here,
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the screen here. And everybody would --
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the second 45 minutes consisted
of two shots without cuts,
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unless it was 30 minutes
without cuts, I can't remember.
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It was like 45 minutes cut in
half. And that was the trick.
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And I think it worked okay.
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And the actors were great,
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but the only famous one --
who later became famous --
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was Kevin Bacon, a very good actor.
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He was very young.
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Some other people in it I don't remember.
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- You recently had a
film, News from Nowhere?
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- I called it News from Nowhere.
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It's about something I'd
actually done before.
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An immigrant comes to America.
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He's overjoyed, nothing terribly dramatic,
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He thinks the people are kind
of empty, goes back home.
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I think America has become
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kind of not like it was 60 years ago.
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And the studios were making
films about the real America,
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not the acting class shit from
New York, which we've been
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getting for the last 40 years.
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Films are no longer entertaining,
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except for little kiddie things,
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where they're arguing and
screaming and cursing.
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And I don't know if
adults can go to a film
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and enjoy them anymore.
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I think they're amusing, but I don't know,
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'cause I don't see them.
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- Do we have any questions?
We're almost out of time.
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- Yes, yes.
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- What are a few of your favorite films
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that you haven't been involved in?
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- Gone With The Wind.
I mean, Hollywood makes
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the most extraordinary films.
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I saw a film recently,
I had never heard of it,
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it was called The Matrimonial Bed.
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It was made in 1930,
a man named Frank Fay.
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He was a very great theater
star. He was married to
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Barbara Stanwyck and he
alienated Hollywood in the '30s.
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I guess he came out against comedies,
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I don't know what happened.
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He played his last years in the theater.
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It was a wonderful film. He was so funny.
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00:25:38,325 --> 00:25:40,761
The film was funny. I can't
remember what it was about.
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00:25:40,961 --> 00:25:43,764
It was so silly. It was
on Turner Classic Movies
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at 6:00 in the morning.
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I happened to be up and watching, and
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I said, my gosh, what a
great film. To see these
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kind of entertaining films made,
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especially by the studios
in the '30s, and some of the
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silent movies now are showing up.
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And they're very interesting, recently.
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Films I've never heard of, but you know,
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in Hollywood in the '30s,
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they did Fred Astaire
and Ginger Rogers movies.
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Nothing ever was made
in the history of movies
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as good as those things.
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They made about six or seven of them.
472
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They did so many good movies
in the '30s. Then in the '40s
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they got a little more
serious, that's with John Ford
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and William Wyler,
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others like Anatole Litvak,
they did their greatest films.
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John Ford's How Green Was
My Valley is a masterpiece.
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So maybe his best film,
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00:26:36,016 --> 00:26:37,918
but then right after that
he made Tobacco Road,
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which is hated by the liberals,
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because it says that
America is a good country.
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It's not a commune. It
doesn't need your communism.
482
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Tobacco Road was a gigantic
book and a gigantic theater
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piece that lasted about
eight years in the theater.
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And it was a wonderful movie,
and very funny, by John Ford,
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who did a great job.
486
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Then John Ford did They Were Expendable
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right after that,
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and that's one of the
greatest movies ever made.
489
00:27:04,411 --> 00:27:07,948
It stars John Wayne and
Robert Montgomery, who
490
00:27:08,149 --> 00:27:10,184
never was a good actor but in this.
491
00:27:10,384 --> 00:27:13,754
It was about a military
base on an island that's
492
00:27:13,954 --> 00:27:15,890
doomed, because the Japanese are coming in
493
00:27:16,090 --> 00:27:17,124
to kill everybody.
494
00:27:17,324 --> 00:27:20,060
And the two officers talk about, well,
495
00:27:20,261 --> 00:27:22,763
we have to go when they
leave at the end of the --
496
00:27:22,963 --> 00:27:25,332
They Were Expendable was
shown right after the war.
497
00:27:25,733 --> 00:27:28,402
People didn't go because of
it was too depressing, because
498
00:27:28,802 --> 00:27:31,272
really, without showing
people getting killed,
499
00:27:31,672 --> 00:27:35,676
made you realize how the life
of these soldiers was lived
500
00:27:36,911 --> 00:27:37,978
on borrowed time.
501
00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:44,051
And then William Wyler in
1940, I think he made --'39,
502
00:27:44,985 --> 00:27:47,988
he made The Letter, with
Bette Davis, his best film.
503
00:27:48,189 --> 00:27:50,891
Her best film. A very great film.
504
00:27:51,091 --> 00:27:53,861
And then at 1948, '49, he did The Heiress,
505
00:27:54,061 --> 00:27:57,765
with Olivia de Havilland, Ralph
Richardson, very great film.
506
00:27:57,965 --> 00:28:01,902
The work these directors
did has never been equaled.
507
00:28:03,003 --> 00:28:04,038
They came from the '20s,
508
00:28:04,238 --> 00:28:06,106
they came from the '30s,
they worked in the '40s,
509
00:28:06,307 --> 00:28:11,011
they worked in the '50s,
that doesn't exist anymore.
510
00:28:11,212 --> 00:28:13,747
There's no big director, no good director.
511
00:28:13,948 --> 00:28:15,082
There's directors that made a lot of money
512
00:28:15,282 --> 00:28:16,984
with some garbage they made.
513
00:28:17,184 --> 00:28:21,055
$8 million and none of
the movies are any good.
514
00:28:22,122 --> 00:28:24,058
So, I don't know what
Turner Classic Movies
515
00:28:24,258 --> 00:28:26,927
is going to exist on in the next 40 years,
516
00:28:28,028 --> 00:28:29,296
because they'll have to show the junkers
517
00:28:29,496 --> 00:28:32,266
that are made in the past 60 years.
518
00:28:33,467 --> 00:28:34,735
I like the movies.
519
00:28:34,935 --> 00:28:37,338
I can't describe that many
great movies I've seen because
520
00:28:37,738 --> 00:28:40,207
I've seen so many. And I like so many.
521
00:28:42,076 --> 00:28:46,113
Usually, the light ones are
the ones that last longer than
522
00:28:46,313 --> 00:28:49,149
the serious ones, like
The Letter, that's great.
523
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:51,285
Bette Davis shoots the boyfriend
in the first scene in the
524
00:28:51,485 --> 00:28:52,786
movie. (shooting noises)
525
00:28:52,987 --> 00:28:54,955
And she lies all the way through.
526
00:28:55,155 --> 00:28:55,923
And then,
527
00:28:57,791 --> 00:29:02,796
he had a Chinese girlfriend and
the Chinese girlfriend comes
528
00:29:03,464 --> 00:29:05,199
and kills Bette Davis
at the end of the movie,
529
00:29:05,399 --> 00:29:08,102
and you're so glad
somebody is killing her.
530
00:29:08,302 --> 00:29:10,271
These films are extraordinary,
531
00:29:10,471 --> 00:29:13,874
great writers have written
them, good screenwriters.
532
00:29:14,074 --> 00:29:17,044
People like William Wyler,
they didn't even speak.
533
00:29:17,244 --> 00:29:19,847
He never spoke to the actors. Never.
534
00:29:20,047 --> 00:29:23,484
He just said over again,
try to get it better, okay.
535
00:29:23,884 --> 00:29:25,953
He did 3O takes.
536
00:29:26,153 --> 00:29:28,322
Most directors wouldn't do
that, because the actors
537
00:29:28,522 --> 00:29:31,325
didn't want it, but he did
it. With him, it worked.
538
00:29:33,294 --> 00:29:36,530
But I find the movies of the studios,
539
00:29:36,930 --> 00:29:39,967
the great Hollywood studios,
they were very greatest movies.
540
00:29:40,167 --> 00:29:41,368
And there were no such
thing as independent movies
541
00:29:41,568 --> 00:29:44,204
in the '10s, the '20s, '30s, '40s, '50s.
542
00:29:44,405 --> 00:29:47,207
We started from Europe when
the studios would have a
543
00:29:47,408 --> 00:29:48,976
business.
544
00:29:49,176 --> 00:29:50,844
The great films made in the past 5O years
545
00:29:51,045 --> 00:29:54,348
were only made through the '60s, '70s.
546
00:29:54,548 --> 00:29:58,852
In Italy, the greatest
directors lived over there,
547
00:29:59,053 --> 00:30:02,289
greatest actors, greatest
actresses, the stories.
548
00:30:02,489 --> 00:30:07,194
The movies went all over the
world in Italian language and
549
00:30:07,394 --> 00:30:11,198
no other country did that.
He wouldn't do it German.
550
00:30:11,398 --> 00:30:13,467
He didn't do it Spain.
Didn't do it American.
551
00:30:13,867 --> 00:30:15,002
Didn't do it in the '60s or '70s.
552
00:30:15,202 --> 00:30:17,871
Then Italians did. Then eventually,
553
00:30:18,072 --> 00:30:22,943
all the directors died.
(indecipherable) was still alive.
554
00:30:23,143 --> 00:30:25,579
Greatest living director,
magnificent director,
555
00:30:25,979 --> 00:30:27,314
enormously successful.
556
00:30:28,482 --> 00:30:32,986
And all this talent that was
in Italy is all gone now.
557
00:30:33,187 --> 00:30:35,222
Recently, they had a director who died,
558
00:30:35,422 --> 00:30:37,124
named Mario Monicelli.
559
00:30:37,324 --> 00:30:39,460
He'd done a hundred great films,
560
00:30:39,860 --> 00:30:41,462
you know, fifty great ones.
561
00:30:42,396 --> 00:30:46,033
And he continued to direct
while he was 88 years old.
562
00:30:46,233 --> 00:30:47,234
He never stopped.
563
00:30:48,502 --> 00:30:52,539
Finally, 92, he said, I
can't direct films anymore.
564
00:30:53,574 --> 00:30:58,379
And he jumped out a
window. Mario Monicelli.
565
00:30:58,579 --> 00:31:01,949
I mean, a hundred times better
than Fellini in some ways.
566
00:31:02,149 --> 00:31:04,284
Fellini is unique in his own way.
567
00:31:04,485 --> 00:31:06,253
There were so many great
directors and actors
568
00:31:06,453 --> 00:31:08,455
and actresses in Italy.
Now there's nobody.
569
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:11,258
So, I don't know.
570
00:31:13,060 --> 00:31:16,897
I wish -- I like to say
it just to annoy people.
571
00:31:17,097 --> 00:31:19,032
I think movies have been over a long time,
572
00:31:19,233 --> 00:31:21,301
even though a couple of good
movies get made every year,
573
00:31:21,502 --> 00:31:23,237
usually from England or something.
574
00:31:24,371 --> 00:31:26,673
But the best thing to happen
in the history of television
575
00:31:27,074 --> 00:31:31,378
is a television show
called -- the name I hate.
576
00:31:32,312 --> 00:31:33,614
But it's the best thing I've
ever seen on television,
577
00:31:34,014 --> 00:31:36,150
called Hardcore Pawn.
578
00:31:37,117 --> 00:31:38,285
Has anybody seen it?
579
00:31:39,453 --> 00:31:44,458
Isn't it great? Three hours,
you can't stop watching it.
580
00:31:45,626 --> 00:31:49,596
That man, his daughter and
the son, are incredible.
581
00:31:49,997 --> 00:31:53,534
Especially the father. People pawn
582
00:31:53,934 --> 00:31:56,537
in Detroit and the store is huge.
583
00:31:56,937 --> 00:31:58,505
He must have a hundred employees,
584
00:31:58,705 --> 00:32:01,108
but then only the family are on camera.
585
00:32:01,308 --> 00:32:06,079
The people who come in for
money, it's unbelievable,
586
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,650
and this has never been
seen in a movie or anything.
587
00:32:10,050 --> 00:32:11,618
And it's -- they show
three hours once a week
588
00:32:12,019 --> 00:32:14,455
on Tru television. And I say,
589
00:32:15,422 --> 00:32:19,460
I'm watching again, Tru
television, Hardcore Pawn,
590
00:32:19,660 --> 00:32:23,263
because it's pure TV.
591
00:32:23,464 --> 00:32:26,400
They just have two or three
cameramen there and bodyguards,
592
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,002
because the people want to kill them.
593
00:32:29,203 --> 00:32:32,706
The nice man who runs
it. And they stand up
594
00:32:33,106 --> 00:32:34,675
to these people, but they have bodyguards,
595
00:32:35,075 --> 00:32:36,743
the size you haven't believed,
596
00:32:37,144 --> 00:32:41,982
but I don't think television
-- it used to in the '50s,
597
00:32:42,182 --> 00:32:46,320
it had Jackie Gleason, and
Phil Silvers, and funny people.
598
00:32:47,421 --> 00:32:50,424
Now, they don't have that.
They just have vulgar crap.
599
00:32:52,292 --> 00:32:55,429
I don't know what I'd watch
on television anymore,
600
00:32:55,629 --> 00:32:58,265
except Turner Classic and Hardcore Pawn.
601
00:32:58,465 --> 00:33:02,002
And sometimes you see a
documentary or something,
602
00:33:02,202 --> 00:33:04,037
and the animal documentaries.
603
00:33:06,173 --> 00:33:07,608
I don't see television.
604
00:33:08,609 --> 00:33:09,776
I don't know where it's going to go.
605
00:33:10,177 --> 00:33:11,712
I don't know if it has anywhere to go,
606
00:33:12,779 --> 00:33:15,415
but I do recommend looking
for something called p-a-w-n,
607
00:33:15,616 --> 00:33:18,452
pawn shop. Hardcore Pawn. Okay.
608
00:33:19,653 --> 00:33:21,522
- Well, thank you very
much. The living legend,
609
00:33:21,722 --> 00:33:25,492
Paul Morrissey here. And
he will be here all week.
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