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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,177 When I first signed with an agent, they said, 2 00:00:47,221 --> 00:00:49,092 "Oh, yeah, you're gonna have to get naked, 3 00:00:49,136 --> 00:00:52,530 and everybody knows that winning the Oscar represents 4 00:00:52,574 --> 00:00:53,923 that you're not gonna get naked anymore." 5 00:00:57,753 --> 00:00:58,841 You're out there while the men are 6 00:00:58,884 --> 00:01:00,495 on the sides wearing parkas. 7 00:01:01,626 --> 00:01:03,019 You're just standing there with no shirt on. 8 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:05,587 Everybody's standing, staring at you. 9 00:01:07,632 --> 00:01:09,069 A lot of the nudity that was asked of me 10 00:01:09,112 --> 00:01:10,722 was not in the contract. 11 00:01:10,766 --> 00:01:14,552 I thought, at the time, "This is what paying your dues is." 12 00:01:15,118 --> 00:01:17,425 I was afraid if I said no 13 00:01:17,468 --> 00:01:19,427 that it would make me too vulnerable. 14 00:01:21,255 --> 00:01:22,734 For some reason, sayin no 15 00:01:22,778 --> 00:01:24,606 would make me more vulnerable than being naked. 16 00:01:27,609 --> 00:01:29,437 Did I have to be topless? 17 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,786 Probably not. 18 00:01:32,614 --> 00:01:34,529 Already as an artist, as an actor, 19 00:01:34,572 --> 00:01:37,575 my body no longer belongs to me. 20 00:01:37,619 --> 00:01:41,405 You are giving over your likeness to a character, 21 00:01:41,449 --> 00:01:43,538 and then that character becomes something 22 00:01:43,581 --> 00:01:45,975 that belongs to the world, and that's crazy. 23 00:01:47,759 --> 00:01:50,675 This idea of, "Oh, I'm less of a true actor 24 00:01:50,719 --> 00:01:53,548 if I do nudity," as if it's this negative thing, 25 00:01:53,591 --> 00:01:54,679 but who decided that? 26 00:01:55,245 --> 00:01:56,072 Who? 27 00:01:57,073 --> 00:01:58,901 Zoom in if you can. 28 00:01:58,944 --> 00:02:01,164 I wanted to be naked so there's a sense of normalcy 29 00:02:01,208 --> 00:02:03,775 about what our bodies represent, 30 00:02:03,819 --> 00:02:06,256 not just for trans people but period. 31 00:02:07,257 --> 00:02:08,650 Yeah, can we just... 32 00:02:09,477 --> 00:02:10,608 All these movies 33 00:02:10,652 --> 00:02:12,393 that I watched growing up chipped away 34 00:02:12,436 --> 00:02:16,353 at my sense of who I was, how to know who I was, 35 00:02:16,397 --> 00:02:17,746 how to know what I wanted. 36 00:02:19,008 --> 00:02:20,662 Okay, marks, everyone. 37 00:02:20,705 --> 00:02:21,924 How do we find our desire 38 00:02:21,967 --> 00:02:23,708 when we're so used to being looked at? 39 00:02:23,752 --> 00:02:26,624 Interior bedroom night, this is a closed set, 40 00:02:26,668 --> 00:02:29,279 so if you're not in this scene or working this scene, 41 00:02:29,323 --> 00:02:31,151 please exit the stage. 42 00:02:31,194 --> 00:02:35,242 What we see over and over again is women have to fight 43 00:02:35,285 --> 00:02:36,895 for ownership of their own body. 44 00:02:37,592 --> 00:02:38,419 Okay, here we go. 45 00:02:38,462 --> 00:02:39,202 - Quiet please. - Quiet. 46 00:02:39,246 --> 00:02:40,986 Roll sound. 47 00:02:43,250 --> 00:02:44,468 Camera speeds. 48 00:02:44,512 --> 00:02:45,861 Scene 20, take five, marker. 49 00:02:47,210 --> 00:02:48,342 'Kay, robe's off. 50 00:02:49,734 --> 00:02:50,692 Action. 51 00:03:13,758 --> 00:03:16,370 Everybody learns how to behave 52 00:03:16,413 --> 00:03:21,026 and sex and other things from the movies, 53 00:03:24,204 --> 00:03:26,554 our notions of ourselves, our notions of beauty, 54 00:03:26,597 --> 00:03:27,990 our notions of romance, 55 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,691 what sex is allowed to be, and who it's allowed to be with. 56 00:03:34,344 --> 00:03:36,259 How to kiss, how to have sex, 57 00:03:36,303 --> 00:03:38,261 how to be tender, how to be violent. 58 00:03:38,305 --> 00:03:40,742 I mean, there are so many things we learn from movies, 59 00:03:40,785 --> 00:03:42,744 particularly when we're younger. 60 00:03:45,921 --> 00:03:48,097 It's hard to talk about sex, 61 00:03:48,140 --> 00:03:52,710 but here we have all of these examples of movies, 62 00:03:53,929 --> 00:03:57,672 and television, and now the Internet 63 00:03:58,194 --> 00:04:00,370 to show us what we are thinking 64 00:04:00,414 --> 00:04:04,244 about our relation to sex through media. 65 00:04:06,811 --> 00:04:08,465 Sex education. 66 00:04:10,206 --> 00:04:13,557 Don't have sex 'cause you will get pregnant and die. 67 00:04:13,601 --> 00:04:15,472 That's it then for the penis. 68 00:04:15,516 --> 00:04:16,778 Let's move on 69 00:04:16,821 --> 00:04:18,954 to the, the -- 70 00:04:19,433 --> 00:04:22,131 female privates. 71 00:04:23,915 --> 00:04:25,003 We are sex ed, 72 00:04:25,265 --> 00:04:26,570 the TV industry and the film industry. 73 00:04:26,614 --> 00:04:27,658 We are sex ed. 74 00:04:32,881 --> 00:04:33,925 When I didn't think I was gonna make it 75 00:04:33,969 --> 00:04:35,840 as a filmmaker, as a director, 76 00:04:35,884 --> 00:04:38,452 I really wanted to do sex education curriculums 77 00:04:38,495 --> 00:04:41,281 in high schools 'cause I just find so many things, 78 00:04:41,324 --> 00:04:43,021 like, so shocking about what women 79 00:04:43,065 --> 00:04:46,808 and girls, like, aren't ever told about sex. 80 00:04:50,812 --> 00:04:51,900 Which is probably 81 00:04:51,943 --> 00:04:53,597 why I'm really fascinated as a director 82 00:04:54,772 --> 00:04:55,904 with what happens behind closed doors. 83 00:05:09,352 --> 00:05:13,008 I was raised so conservative and so Christian 84 00:05:13,356 --> 00:05:18,318 that I remember watching "Ace Ventura", 85 00:05:19,797 --> 00:05:21,712 and it was the first time I realized 86 00:05:21,756 --> 00:05:24,585 that sex wasn't just the penis going into the vagina -- 87 00:05:26,151 --> 00:05:27,588 ...because the bed was shaking back and forth, realizing 88 00:05:27,631 --> 00:05:30,330 that there was, like, an actual movement that happened. 89 00:05:32,854 --> 00:05:37,337 For me, the sex scene that sticks out is "Love Jones." 90 00:05:38,381 --> 00:05:41,079 There was, like, one moment within the scene where 91 00:05:41,123 --> 00:05:43,734 Larenz actually kissed her nipple, 92 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,911 and I was like, "Whoa." 93 00:05:47,303 --> 00:05:49,174 Like, "They're allowed to put this in movies?" 94 00:05:49,218 --> 00:05:50,698 Like, "This is crazy. 95 00:05:52,874 --> 00:05:56,660 Oh, this is what sex looks like. 96 00:05:57,661 --> 00:06:00,316 This is how I'm supposed to look as a woman." 97 00:06:03,058 --> 00:06:05,408 When I was a teenager I remember watching 98 00:06:05,452 --> 00:06:07,584 "Fast Times at Ridgemont High," 99 00:06:07,628 --> 00:06:09,717 and there was Phoebe Cates, 100 00:06:10,805 --> 00:06:12,154 Hi, Brent. 101 00:06:12,197 --> 00:06:14,809 who was the object of desire, 102 00:06:15,287 --> 00:06:17,420 and so wanted, 103 00:06:18,203 --> 00:06:21,337 and so unattainable, and I remember thinking, like, 104 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:22,773 "I really wanna be her." 105 00:06:30,041 --> 00:06:32,304 I desperately wanted to be the object. 106 00:06:47,276 --> 00:06:51,323 There's a long tradition in American movies of showgirls, 107 00:06:51,367 --> 00:06:55,284 of literally showing girls, 108 00:06:56,807 --> 00:07:00,637 identical-looking women opening their legs in unison 109 00:07:01,856 --> 00:07:04,598 going back to the earliest musicals. 110 00:07:07,557 --> 00:07:09,907 The idealized and commodified -- 111 00:07:10,691 --> 00:07:11,953 sexuality of women, 112 00:07:13,084 --> 00:07:15,043 it's as old an invention as film. 113 00:07:26,141 --> 00:07:29,274 Eadweard Muybridge was a photographer 114 00:07:29,318 --> 00:07:32,277 who would give lectures, and he would show 115 00:07:32,321 --> 00:07:35,150 very, very short sequences of motion. 116 00:07:40,982 --> 00:07:42,462 When he got to the women, 117 00:07:42,505 --> 00:07:45,726 he fundamentally didn't know what purposeful activity 118 00:07:45,769 --> 00:07:46,901 to give them to do, 119 00:07:47,989 --> 00:07:50,470 and so he had them flirt fans, 120 00:07:51,166 --> 00:07:54,474 or walk up some stairs, or walk down some stairs. 121 00:07:55,387 --> 00:07:58,652 One woman is gazing longingly at another woman. 122 00:07:59,870 --> 00:08:01,829 So, the men act, 123 00:08:03,526 --> 00:08:06,529 and the women are always aware of being looked at. 124 00:08:26,201 --> 00:08:27,550 Jane, 30s, 125 00:08:27,594 --> 00:08:29,030 beautiful but pissed. 126 00:08:29,073 --> 00:08:31,511 Jane, an attractive and fit nurse in her late 30s. 127 00:08:31,554 --> 00:08:33,643 Jane 40s, looks 35. 128 00:08:33,687 --> 00:08:35,253 Jane's the Harvard type. Pretty, Hispanic. 129 00:08:35,297 --> 00:08:36,690 Smart as shit and beautiful. 130 00:08:37,299 --> 00:08:40,215 We need a woman who's strong-willed but hot. 131 00:08:41,869 --> 00:08:43,697 She has to be strong-willed but hot, -- 132 00:08:44,828 --> 00:08:46,787 meaning that a strong-willed woman is 133 00:08:46,830 --> 00:08:48,266 usually not attractive. 134 00:08:48,310 --> 00:08:50,965 The bimbo hot mamacita, 135 00:08:52,053 --> 00:08:57,058 seductress, voluptuous, curvaceous, sassy. 136 00:09:00,235 --> 00:09:03,107 I make you feel real nice today, Doug. 137 00:09:03,151 --> 00:09:05,893 I played this one character who was 138 00:09:05,936 --> 00:09:08,156 an Asian masseuse, 139 00:09:08,199 --> 00:09:09,592 and I remember 140 00:09:09,636 --> 00:09:12,247 when that casting breakdown was being faxed to me 141 00:09:12,290 --> 00:09:15,642 and was like, "Is she also a bad driver, 142 00:09:15,685 --> 00:09:16,860 and is she good at math?" 143 00:09:16,904 --> 00:09:18,601 I mean, how many stereotypes can you roll 144 00:09:18,645 --> 00:09:19,994 into this one character? 145 00:09:22,518 --> 00:09:23,693 You read so many scripts, and you're like, 146 00:09:23,737 --> 00:09:25,521 "This is what you're gonna do, 147 00:09:27,958 --> 00:09:29,481 this, and then you're gonna get money to make this, 148 00:09:29,525 --> 00:09:31,919 and then you're gonna put this thought out into the world 149 00:09:31,962 --> 00:09:33,529 with these characters?" 150 00:09:35,096 --> 00:09:37,968 When I first started my TV writing career, 151 00:09:38,012 --> 00:09:41,058 they were always looking for a female writer to hire. 152 00:09:42,190 --> 00:09:43,365 It's terrible to say, 153 00:09:43,408 --> 00:09:44,801 but at the time I felt really fortunate. 154 00:09:44,845 --> 00:09:46,629 I was like, "Oh, they're looking for a female writer. 155 00:09:46,673 --> 00:09:48,065 I could be that female writer," 156 00:09:48,109 --> 00:09:49,632 but of course I wasn't putting it together, like, 157 00:09:49,676 --> 00:09:52,592 'cause they already have a writer's room of 11 guys. 158 00:09:54,245 --> 00:09:57,292 And there wasn't a lot of interest 159 00:09:57,335 --> 00:10:00,164 in authentic female stories. 160 00:10:00,208 --> 00:10:01,165 I'll put it that way. 161 00:10:01,209 --> 00:10:02,689 In some ways, I think there's 162 00:10:02,732 --> 00:10:04,995 a lotta 20 and 30 something male writers, 163 00:10:06,997 --> 00:10:09,913 who they'd admit, "I'm not really sure I wanna to know 164 00:10:09,957 --> 00:10:11,349 what's in a woman's head," you know, 165 00:10:11,393 --> 00:10:12,481 and, "I'd rather stand out here 166 00:10:12,524 --> 00:10:14,265 and put a gun in a guy's hand, 167 00:10:14,309 --> 00:10:15,527 and I'll write that story." 168 00:10:16,267 --> 00:10:17,921 In some respects, we may have been shirking it. 169 00:10:23,710 --> 00:10:25,668 They were just telling their stories, 170 00:10:25,712 --> 00:10:28,410 and in their stories, many times, 171 00:10:28,453 --> 00:10:30,107 we were one-dimensional objects. 172 00:10:33,807 --> 00:10:35,939 It's limited choices, and that's just 173 00:10:35,983 --> 00:10:38,376 because it comes from limited imaginations. 174 00:10:43,294 --> 00:10:45,253 You bad girl. 175 00:10:45,296 --> 00:10:47,037 Mm, you'll find out. 176 00:10:48,038 --> 00:10:51,955 In the very early cinema, shockingly, 177 00:10:51,999 --> 00:10:53,348 you find something different. 178 00:10:56,525 --> 00:10:58,570 In the late 20s, early 30s, 179 00:10:58,614 --> 00:11:01,399 we did have a lot of women writing screenplays. 180 00:11:04,751 --> 00:11:05,665 I mean a lot. 181 00:11:05,708 --> 00:11:07,492 I would say, like, 50-50. 182 00:11:07,536 --> 00:11:08,842 Let's all, let's run. 183 00:11:10,234 --> 00:11:11,627 What you're seeing is 184 00:11:11,671 --> 00:11:14,456 the modern woman expressed on screen. 185 00:11:14,499 --> 00:11:17,285 I don't believe in what you believe, that's all. 186 00:11:17,328 --> 00:11:18,721 I don't wanna get married. 187 00:11:18,765 --> 00:11:19,809 I'm the doctor. 188 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:22,420 And very importantly, 189 00:11:22,464 --> 00:11:25,859 you can have a woman be very sexually adventurous. 190 00:11:26,903 --> 00:11:27,817 Hold me close. 191 00:11:28,992 --> 00:11:32,822 The 20s and 30s was the sexiest time 192 00:11:32,866 --> 00:11:38,001 for women in movies, the Betty Davises, the May Wests, 193 00:11:38,045 --> 00:11:39,524 A little bit spicy but not too raw, 194 00:11:39,568 --> 00:11:40,700 you know what I mean? 195 00:11:41,526 --> 00:11:45,226 the Garbos, they were naughty women. 196 00:11:46,793 --> 00:11:48,620 They were dangerous women. 197 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:51,841 Mm, your hand is shaking. 198 00:11:55,976 --> 00:11:57,542 Women who starred in the movies had 199 00:11:57,586 --> 00:12:01,198 a lot of power in those days, and they'd draw box office, 200 00:12:01,242 --> 00:12:03,113 and they were saying, "I wanna do stuff that's real." 201 00:12:03,810 --> 00:12:06,508 I wanna do it and not have somebody tell me 202 00:12:06,551 --> 00:12:08,205 I ought to do something else. 203 00:12:14,429 --> 00:12:17,911 Women in film were enjoying free expression. 204 00:12:23,438 --> 00:12:26,571 And all of a sudden, this vein was just cut off. 205 00:12:26,615 --> 00:12:27,442 It was just gone. 206 00:12:28,748 --> 00:12:32,534 The vulgar, the cheap, and the tawdry is out. 207 00:12:33,230 --> 00:12:36,930 There is no room on the screen, at any time, 208 00:12:36,973 --> 00:12:40,107 for pictures which offend against common decency. 209 00:12:41,064 --> 00:12:44,589 The Hollywood production code was invented 210 00:12:44,633 --> 00:12:48,376 so that Hollywood could police itself 211 00:12:48,419 --> 00:12:49,769 and, in that policing, 212 00:12:49,812 --> 00:12:53,250 prevent any kind of state censorship. 213 00:12:54,556 --> 00:12:55,862 - Night. - Night. 214 00:12:55,905 --> 00:12:59,126 Couples are sleeping in separate beds, 215 00:13:02,912 --> 00:13:06,655 keep both feet firmly planted on the floor. 216 00:13:06,698 --> 00:13:09,527 Kisses were only allowed to be three seconds long, 217 00:13:10,398 --> 00:13:14,750 and what the kiss would lead to could never be shown, 218 00:13:18,536 --> 00:13:23,106 no sexual relations between white and black characters. 219 00:13:24,629 --> 00:13:26,936 There was no sex allowed outside of marriage. 220 00:13:26,980 --> 00:13:28,111 Goodbye mother. 221 00:13:28,155 --> 00:13:30,157 But also sex outside of marriage, 222 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,593 to the extent that it could be shown, 223 00:13:31,636 --> 00:13:34,814 had to be shown as something that was tragic. 224 00:13:34,857 --> 00:13:36,554 Goodbye, baby. 225 00:13:38,382 --> 00:13:40,645 We had different groups of people 226 00:13:40,689 --> 00:13:42,430 locked into a certain representation. 227 00:13:43,170 --> 00:13:45,868 Just hold on and suck in. 228 00:13:46,521 --> 00:13:47,478 They're servants. 229 00:13:47,522 --> 00:13:48,392 They're the sidekick. 230 00:13:49,611 --> 00:13:50,481 Turn me loose, you fool, turn me loose. 231 00:13:50,525 --> 00:13:52,005 It's Ashley. 232 00:13:52,048 --> 00:13:55,138 Hattie McDaniel, who was crazily talented, 233 00:13:55,182 --> 00:13:57,706 had to perfect the ability to play Mammy. 234 00:13:57,749 --> 00:13:59,882 What's that rustling noise I hear? 235 00:13:59,926 --> 00:14:01,666 Lordy, Mr. Rhett, that ain't nothing 236 00:14:01,710 --> 00:14:04,539 but my red silk petticoat you done give me. 237 00:14:04,582 --> 00:14:06,846 Black women had to be positioned in this way 238 00:14:06,889 --> 00:14:08,848 in which they were sexually non-threatening 239 00:14:08,891 --> 00:14:10,110 to white women on screen. 240 00:14:10,937 --> 00:14:13,722 Later on, they were hypersexual or deviant. 241 00:14:14,201 --> 00:14:15,680 I suggest that, while you're on this ship, 242 00:14:15,724 --> 00:14:17,291 you wear something a little less revealing. 243 00:14:18,118 --> 00:14:19,902 Does it bother the captain? 244 00:14:19,946 --> 00:14:22,165 Hollywood didn't have in mind 245 00:14:22,209 --> 00:14:25,995 black female actresses as leading ladies. 246 00:14:29,172 --> 00:14:33,437 Anna May Wong was the first Chinese American movie star. 247 00:14:34,047 --> 00:14:37,093 She was always cast as the dragon lady. 248 00:14:38,921 --> 00:14:40,227 - Ronald. - Uh, Joan. 249 00:14:40,270 --> 00:14:41,750 The person who would 250 00:14:41,793 --> 00:14:43,621 steal your husband. 251 00:14:44,057 --> 00:14:48,148 With the code, interracial marriage was not acceptable. 252 00:14:48,191 --> 00:14:50,890 It prevented her from ever being a leading lady. 253 00:14:52,630 --> 00:14:54,415 Don't do anything foolish. 254 00:14:56,460 --> 00:14:58,375 Women's roles were destroyed. 255 00:14:58,985 --> 00:15:00,595 Now, you listen to me. 256 00:15:00,638 --> 00:15:02,553 You're going to marry Phil Marshall 257 00:15:02,597 --> 00:15:04,991 and keep your mouth shut till you die. 258 00:15:05,034 --> 00:15:06,340 Just at a time 259 00:15:06,383 --> 00:15:09,604 when women in film were enjoying some agency. 260 00:15:26,012 --> 00:15:29,232 After my first movie, when I started going on auditions, 261 00:15:29,276 --> 00:15:31,843 I hated asking for anything, 262 00:15:33,106 --> 00:15:34,629 and just by dint of being there, 263 00:15:34,672 --> 00:15:36,979 you're kind of in this position, 264 00:15:37,023 --> 00:15:39,286 you know, to say, "Alms for the poor?" 265 00:15:40,635 --> 00:15:41,984 He's just like, "Forget that I'm famous." 266 00:15:42,028 --> 00:15:43,159 He's just like, you know. I know. 267 00:15:43,203 --> 00:15:44,856 The feedback I would get, you know, 268 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:48,251 going in for, like, these female leads would be like, 269 00:15:48,295 --> 00:15:49,731 "Is she sexy enough?" 270 00:15:50,253 --> 00:15:51,820 Do it like Shakespeare but sexy. 271 00:15:52,299 --> 00:15:52,995 Okay. 272 00:15:54,127 --> 00:15:55,128 Right there. 273 00:15:55,171 --> 00:15:55,955 Thanks, okay, nice to meet you. 274 00:15:57,260 --> 00:15:59,697 You're being dissected immediately 275 00:15:59,741 --> 00:16:00,611 for your body. 276 00:16:01,961 --> 00:16:03,963 And it's something about being in a long hallway 277 00:16:04,006 --> 00:16:05,399 with all these girls 278 00:16:05,442 --> 00:16:08,750 with tight tops and miniskirts on and a big dream. 279 00:16:11,753 --> 00:16:14,974 The amount of parts that say "nudity required" 280 00:16:15,017 --> 00:16:16,845 or, like, "simulated sex required" 281 00:16:17,454 --> 00:16:19,108 creates the situation 282 00:16:19,152 --> 00:16:21,502 where all women have to decide yes or no 283 00:16:21,545 --> 00:16:23,983 before they even get to audition for the role. 284 00:16:25,332 --> 00:16:26,855 You will lose out on work 285 00:16:26,898 --> 00:16:29,205 if you are not willing to do nudity. 286 00:16:31,555 --> 00:16:33,383 At the the big studios, 287 00:16:33,427 --> 00:16:35,298 they called it Bikini Day. 288 00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:39,824 They would write a part for a girl that had to be 289 00:16:39,868 --> 00:16:41,870 in a bikini for no apparent reason. 290 00:16:44,090 --> 00:16:45,656 So, then they would have auditions for said 291 00:16:45,700 --> 00:16:46,266 bikini girl, 292 00:16:47,441 --> 00:16:48,746 and that would be the day they could get 293 00:16:48,790 --> 00:16:51,271 all of the producers there and the director there 294 00:16:51,314 --> 00:16:53,534 to decide on other, more important roles. 295 00:16:53,577 --> 00:16:54,317 A shocking pink. 296 00:16:56,624 --> 00:16:59,844 When I was younger I definitely went to auditions 297 00:16:59,888 --> 00:17:04,545 for the, you know, sexy teenager. 298 00:17:05,546 --> 00:17:06,808 Lorimar presents 299 00:17:06,851 --> 00:17:08,549 Blake Edwards' "S.O.B." 300 00:17:10,333 --> 00:17:13,771 We were all required to come in wearing a bikini. 301 00:17:13,815 --> 00:17:15,164 I was very well endowed, 302 00:17:16,296 --> 00:17:17,645 and I got the part. 303 00:17:24,086 --> 00:17:25,609 We were about to shoot. 304 00:17:26,132 --> 00:17:28,438 Blake Edwards, he said, "Okay, so Rosanna, 305 00:17:28,482 --> 00:17:30,832 when you come in, you know what? 306 00:17:30,875 --> 00:17:32,660 Let's just lose the bikini top. 307 00:17:32,703 --> 00:17:33,835 Okay, everybody, let's go, " 308 00:17:33,878 --> 00:17:35,880 and I was like, "Um, Mr., Mr. Edwards, 309 00:17:35,924 --> 00:17:39,232 you mean take my, take my bikini top off?" 310 00:17:39,275 --> 00:17:40,711 I was 19 at the time. 311 00:17:42,322 --> 00:17:44,498 And he goes, "Yeah, what, do you have a problem with that?" 312 00:17:44,541 --> 00:17:46,978 And I said, "Well, I didn't know I was gonna be nude. 313 00:17:47,022 --> 00:17:48,545 I didn't know I was gonna be naked." 314 00:17:48,589 --> 00:17:50,895 And he goes, "Oh, man, Tony," to his, you know, producer. 315 00:17:50,939 --> 00:17:53,072 He goes, "Call her agent." 316 00:17:53,115 --> 00:17:55,726 And I just remembered, like, everybody waiting for me 317 00:17:55,770 --> 00:17:57,119 and then him looking, you know, holding out, 318 00:17:57,163 --> 00:17:59,948 and I was such in a panic, and I did it, 319 00:18:01,776 --> 00:18:05,171 and I felt very humiliated and very sad about it. 320 00:18:06,563 --> 00:18:09,697 But you know, this was those days. 321 00:18:09,740 --> 00:18:11,960 It was a completely different consciousness. 322 00:18:13,614 --> 00:18:15,659 You were expected to do these things. 323 00:18:27,802 --> 00:18:30,152 The best way to do this, to get the right head motion, 324 00:18:30,196 --> 00:18:31,632 and also the DP's gonna have to put 325 00:18:31,675 --> 00:18:35,549 the camera in the right place is you make a fist, 326 00:18:35,592 --> 00:18:36,811 you put your thumb here. 327 00:18:38,987 --> 00:18:39,988 You suck your own thumb. 328 00:18:41,424 --> 00:18:43,165 And if you put the camera right behind them, 329 00:18:43,209 --> 00:18:44,558 Mm-hmm, it just looks like- 330 00:18:44,601 --> 00:18:45,428 - then you get the whole- - Yeah. 331 00:18:45,472 --> 00:18:46,516 Thing. 332 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,343 And it gets the right- Freaky. 333 00:18:47,387 --> 00:18:48,779 Yeah, oh, yeah, wow. 334 00:18:48,823 --> 00:18:49,476 - The guy's head movement. - The look of it. 335 00:18:49,519 --> 00:18:50,564 - Yep. - Wow. 336 00:18:50,607 --> 00:18:52,131 Did not know that. 337 00:18:52,174 --> 00:18:53,262 Wow. 338 00:18:53,306 --> 00:18:54,307 Yep, okay. 339 00:18:56,265 --> 00:18:58,311 Today, we're gonna be getting to the core 340 00:18:58,354 --> 00:18:59,921 of what does it mean to be an intimacy coordinator 341 00:18:59,964 --> 00:19:01,836 and, like, how does all this stuff function. 342 00:19:03,229 --> 00:19:07,276 We're gonna talk about the three most common types 343 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,974 or, like, themes in choreography, 344 00:19:10,018 --> 00:19:12,238 which are romance, passion, dominance, 345 00:19:12,281 --> 00:19:14,979 so like, what sorts of touch are associated 346 00:19:15,023 --> 00:19:17,156 and then what are some, like, hints 347 00:19:17,199 --> 00:19:19,810 in terms of often dialogue that we're going 348 00:19:19,854 --> 00:19:21,769 in the direction of this theme. 349 00:19:25,164 --> 00:19:28,993 Romance typically has a gentle 350 00:19:29,037 --> 00:19:31,866 but solid feeling at the same time. 351 00:19:34,085 --> 00:19:35,304 See how light he's being? 352 00:19:35,348 --> 00:19:36,218 Yeah. 353 00:19:37,567 --> 00:19:40,004 Long, soft, continuous strokes 354 00:19:40,048 --> 00:19:41,354 over different areas of the body, 355 00:19:41,397 --> 00:19:43,530 - This guy's- - That reads romantic. 356 00:19:45,532 --> 00:19:49,057 They're about to go into passion, and here we go, 357 00:19:56,586 --> 00:20:00,286 It's kind of animalistic, and they kind of just, like, allow 358 00:20:00,329 --> 00:20:03,332 themselves to get lost in the experience, 359 00:20:03,376 --> 00:20:05,334 and it's a bit out of control. 360 00:20:14,691 --> 00:20:16,127 So, the last one's dominance. 361 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,965 The energy tends to be cool, calm, collected. 362 00:20:33,710 --> 00:20:36,235 It can be sadistic. 363 00:20:37,627 --> 00:20:38,802 It can be punishing. 364 00:20:44,243 --> 00:20:48,159 Just is occurring to me how fraught this is for men. 365 00:20:48,203 --> 00:20:50,814 A lot of them are afraid of, like, 366 00:20:50,858 --> 00:20:53,252 "What if I, like, cross another person's boundaries?" 367 00:20:53,295 --> 00:20:55,645 Or, "What if I, like, harm her or do something?" you know. 368 00:20:55,689 --> 00:20:56,646 And you have to do a good job. 369 00:20:56,690 --> 00:20:57,734 It needs to look a certain way. 370 00:20:57,778 --> 00:20:58,431 I mean it's a lot of- Mm-hmm. 371 00:20:58,474 --> 00:20:59,388 - Ooh. - Yeah. 372 00:20:59,432 --> 00:21:00,868 It's, like, an exaggeration 373 00:21:00,911 --> 00:21:01,521 of everything in the culture happening right there. 374 00:21:01,564 --> 00:21:02,348 Yeah. 375 00:21:02,391 --> 00:21:03,871 Mm-hmm. 376 00:21:03,914 --> 00:21:04,785 Okay, here we go, 377 00:21:04,828 --> 00:21:07,048 let's lock it up, please. 378 00:21:07,091 --> 00:21:08,571 Belle Rose, take one. 379 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,314 All right, quiet now, on a bell. 380 00:21:14,316 --> 00:21:16,710 And roll please. 381 00:21:19,016 --> 00:21:20,714 Speed. 382 00:21:22,281 --> 00:21:25,109 If there's gonna be nudity or a sex scene in a movie, 383 00:21:25,153 --> 00:21:27,155 SAG has certain requirements. 384 00:21:30,637 --> 00:21:33,117 They have to send you, in writing, 385 00:21:33,161 --> 00:21:37,296 what the sex or the nudity is going to entail. 386 00:21:39,950 --> 00:21:44,041 The nudity rider is a very thorough list 387 00:21:44,085 --> 00:21:46,392 of what can or cannot be shown 388 00:21:47,610 --> 00:21:49,351 and what you will or will not do. 389 00:21:49,395 --> 00:21:51,048 You have these 390 00:21:52,006 --> 00:21:55,966 fairly dry conversations 391 00:21:56,010 --> 00:22:00,884 about boob, side boob, nipple, flank. 392 00:22:01,624 --> 00:22:02,712 That's a big one, flank. 393 00:22:03,757 --> 00:22:05,019 Let me see your tits. 394 00:22:09,153 --> 00:22:11,286 For the purposes of this nudity consent rider, 395 00:22:11,330 --> 00:22:13,810 player agrees that player services will require 396 00:22:13,854 --> 00:22:16,378 nudity and/or simulated sex scenes in accordance 397 00:22:16,422 --> 00:22:18,772 with the terms and conditions provided herein. 398 00:22:18,815 --> 00:22:19,599 Very nice. 399 00:22:21,470 --> 00:22:24,473 I'll show the side of my breast but not my nipple. 400 00:22:24,517 --> 00:22:27,781 I'll show my rear end, 401 00:22:27,824 --> 00:22:28,999 but I only want 402 00:22:29,043 --> 00:22:30,697 part of the butt crack to show. 403 00:22:30,740 --> 00:22:33,787 It's sometimes a little odd to go through 404 00:22:33,830 --> 00:22:35,354 how specific it is, 405 00:22:37,443 --> 00:22:39,140 you know, whether you're going to see 406 00:22:39,183 --> 00:22:42,230 the nipple or not, the areola or not. 407 00:22:43,710 --> 00:22:46,582 It even gets as specific as, like, if you have a position, 408 00:22:46,626 --> 00:22:49,411 if you're doing, like, doggie style, for example, 409 00:22:49,455 --> 00:22:51,370 it includes the anal cavity. 410 00:22:51,413 --> 00:22:53,023 And even with the nudity rider, 411 00:22:53,067 --> 00:22:54,503 it's not entirely perfect. 412 00:22:54,547 --> 00:22:56,375 Thought that's what you wanted. 413 00:22:56,418 --> 00:22:57,767 No. 414 00:22:57,811 --> 00:23:00,422 It has definitely happened where people thought 415 00:23:00,466 --> 00:23:02,685 a scene was gonna get portrayed one way, 416 00:23:02,729 --> 00:23:05,949 and they arrive, and all of a sudden the director has 417 00:23:05,993 --> 00:23:09,083 this other, really creative idea. 418 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,089 The sex scene wasn't, "Oh, we're making love." 419 00:23:15,132 --> 00:23:17,265 It's very harsh, 420 00:23:18,484 --> 00:23:20,921 things that they would not have agreed to 421 00:23:20,964 --> 00:23:22,879 if they had understood 422 00:23:22,923 --> 00:23:27,449 how the director was going to film that nude scene. 423 00:23:27,493 --> 00:23:28,276 Video. 424 00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:32,715 And if it's not SAG, you don't have protections. 425 00:23:32,759 --> 00:23:34,543 There's a whole arena of movies 426 00:23:34,587 --> 00:23:36,763 where you're not covered by a union. 427 00:23:36,806 --> 00:23:39,026 You have no protections. 428 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,638 I went on set, and I discovered 429 00:23:42,682 --> 00:23:46,729 that I had two nude scenes, not one. 430 00:23:48,601 --> 00:23:50,951 I was told that it was gonna be empowering. 431 00:23:52,474 --> 00:23:55,085 In this industry, things happen so fast. 432 00:23:55,129 --> 00:23:57,914 They don't really, you know, sit down with you like, 433 00:23:57,958 --> 00:23:59,655 "Oh, we're thinking about doing it this way 434 00:23:59,699 --> 00:24:00,787 or this other way." 435 00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:03,572 When I saw the final product, 436 00:24:03,616 --> 00:24:06,096 I didn't think it was tasteful at all. 437 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,888 Talent to set. 438 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,761 And that's why it's really so important on a set 439 00:24:18,805 --> 00:24:21,460 to have a person who can help you enforce your rights. 440 00:24:23,549 --> 00:24:24,463 Action. 441 00:24:33,559 --> 00:24:35,952 The hair I'm using is human hair. 442 00:24:35,996 --> 00:24:38,564 It's permed and straightened, 443 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,785 and I've got two or three different colors here, 444 00:24:42,829 --> 00:24:45,135 and I'm blending the colors together. 445 00:24:49,096 --> 00:24:52,752 Actors that are doing mainstream entertainment 446 00:24:52,795 --> 00:24:57,234 are not signing up to do a real sex scene. 447 00:24:57,278 --> 00:24:58,932 They're not really having sex, 448 00:24:58,975 --> 00:25:01,108 but they have to really look like they are, 449 00:25:03,066 --> 00:25:05,416 so a merkin is 450 00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:07,680 essentially a pubic hair wig. 451 00:25:10,291 --> 00:25:11,553 And a lot of ladies say they like wearing 452 00:25:11,597 --> 00:25:12,554 the modesty garment with the merkin over it 453 00:25:12,598 --> 00:25:14,556 'cause they look totally naked, 454 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,340 but they don't feel like they are. 455 00:25:16,384 --> 00:25:19,082 They feel like they're wearing an item of clothing still, 456 00:25:19,126 --> 00:25:20,301 so they feel safe. 457 00:25:22,042 --> 00:25:26,307 And then, when it's done, it's very natural looking. 458 00:25:27,743 --> 00:25:29,876 I like to present them in nice little boxes. 459 00:25:29,919 --> 00:25:31,747 Kinda makes everybody kinda comfortable 460 00:25:31,791 --> 00:25:35,229 about the whole situation, which can be very awkward. 461 00:25:37,405 --> 00:25:38,232 Hi, good morning. 462 00:25:38,275 --> 00:25:39,581 - Hi. - Hi. 463 00:25:39,625 --> 00:25:40,800 Do you have any skin allergies? 464 00:25:40,843 --> 00:25:41,627 No. 465 00:25:41,670 --> 00:25:42,584 Perfect. 466 00:25:57,599 --> 00:25:59,688 The experience of shooting a sex scene is, 467 00:25:59,732 --> 00:26:03,213 like, the least sexy thing in the world. 468 00:26:04,911 --> 00:26:06,565 ♪ Ba, ba 469 00:26:12,701 --> 00:26:15,269 They will have a modesty garment on, 470 00:26:15,312 --> 00:26:17,967 which is a very small pair of panties 471 00:26:18,011 --> 00:26:20,927 that has no sides and no back. 472 00:26:23,930 --> 00:26:25,932 Some people are very nervous. 473 00:26:25,975 --> 00:26:28,848 It's not something they do every day. 474 00:26:32,068 --> 00:26:34,070 And action, it's a rehearsal. 475 00:26:35,768 --> 00:26:37,726 It's also strange because you usually just meet, 476 00:26:37,770 --> 00:26:39,119 and there you are touching each other 477 00:26:39,162 --> 00:26:40,642 and laying all over each other. 478 00:26:40,686 --> 00:26:43,558 One, let's have her on top now, roll over. 479 00:26:45,778 --> 00:26:47,083 That's great. 480 00:26:47,127 --> 00:26:47,954 Hold there. 481 00:26:48,868 --> 00:26:50,086 With rehearsal, 482 00:26:50,130 --> 00:26:52,088 we just kind of walk through the steps. 483 00:26:52,132 --> 00:26:53,742 Okay, now start over. 484 00:26:53,786 --> 00:26:56,353 Here's the position, or now they're on the couch, 485 00:26:56,397 --> 00:26:58,007 or now you're sitting here. 486 00:26:58,051 --> 00:27:00,749 Go right, left up, down, spin in a circle and land, 487 00:27:00,793 --> 00:27:02,272 and then the guy's gonna yank your head back. 488 00:27:04,666 --> 00:27:05,928 You don't go to school and learn 489 00:27:05,972 --> 00:27:09,715 how to, you know, choreograph sex scenes. 490 00:27:09,758 --> 00:27:11,542 Cameras rolling. 491 00:27:11,586 --> 00:27:14,676 I was on set and was working on a film 492 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,809 that required quite a bit of nudity. 493 00:27:19,812 --> 00:27:24,294 The DP tried to sneakily and very slowly move the camera 494 00:27:24,338 --> 00:27:28,081 so that it could shoot the lower part of me nude 495 00:27:28,124 --> 00:27:29,517 as well as the upper part. 496 00:27:30,823 --> 00:27:33,390 Every day that I went to work after that, 497 00:27:33,434 --> 00:27:35,566 I thought about, how much had they shot 498 00:27:35,610 --> 00:27:37,046 that we hadn't caught? 499 00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:42,661 Playing an intimate scene with another partner, 500 00:27:43,705 --> 00:27:44,967 you know, is awkward, 501 00:27:45,011 --> 00:27:46,926 and not intimate at all, and very disconnected. 502 00:27:47,666 --> 00:27:50,059 When I watched it, the nakedness 503 00:27:50,103 --> 00:27:52,061 of my body being turned 504 00:27:52,105 --> 00:27:55,238 into an image for anyone to see, 505 00:27:55,282 --> 00:27:58,677 suddenly I realized my body wasn't mine. 506 00:28:02,768 --> 00:28:05,161 You're simulating sex, 507 00:28:05,205 --> 00:28:07,511 but there's only so much simulating you can do. 508 00:28:07,555 --> 00:28:09,035 You can't simulate a kiss. 509 00:28:09,078 --> 00:28:10,819 You have to really kiss someone, 510 00:28:10,863 --> 00:28:13,692 and you have to really touch their naked body. 511 00:28:13,735 --> 00:28:15,563 Like I almost, when I have had to do sex scenes, 512 00:28:15,606 --> 00:28:18,000 and I've done many, it's almost like I go into 513 00:28:18,044 --> 00:28:19,132 a blackout, 514 00:28:19,175 --> 00:28:20,437 like I just have to get it over with. 515 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,571 I wake up that morning with so much dread. 516 00:28:26,748 --> 00:28:28,663 Oftentimes, I did what I normally do 517 00:28:28,707 --> 00:28:30,230 when I get freaked out. 518 00:28:30,273 --> 00:28:32,711 I just kind of leave my body and float up to the ceiling. 519 00:28:35,061 --> 00:28:38,064 My first tendency is almost go numb to it 520 00:28:38,107 --> 00:28:39,718 because it's too intense. 521 00:28:40,588 --> 00:28:44,461 And yet, if I do that, then I'm not present, 522 00:28:44,505 --> 00:28:46,768 and I'm not doing the best work as an actor 523 00:28:46,812 --> 00:28:47,421 that I can do. 524 00:28:54,907 --> 00:28:59,912 With American puritanism, it's hard to talk about sex. 525 00:29:00,826 --> 00:29:02,262 Sex is taboo. 526 00:29:03,263 --> 00:29:08,268 It is the realm of real people in real bodies having 527 00:29:08,485 --> 00:29:10,749 relations with one another. 528 00:29:10,792 --> 00:29:14,709 That's not so comfortable to the filmmakers. 529 00:29:14,753 --> 00:29:15,449 - Say mercy. - No. 530 00:29:15,754 --> 00:29:16,493 - Come on. - No. 531 00:29:16,798 --> 00:29:17,843 - Say mercy. - No. 532 00:29:18,104 --> 00:29:19,975 The first sex scene I ever did was 533 00:29:20,019 --> 00:29:21,629 on my first feature, "D.E.B.S.," 534 00:29:21,977 --> 00:29:23,500 and I was so nervous. 535 00:29:25,154 --> 00:29:29,463 Nobody feels comfortable talking about sex, period. 536 00:29:29,506 --> 00:29:31,073 Nobody feels comfortable 537 00:29:31,117 --> 00:29:32,205 saying they're uncomfortable. 538 00:29:32,727 --> 00:29:34,468 It's a moment of intimacy. 539 00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:38,211 Trying to have, like, a 10 minute conversation 540 00:29:38,254 --> 00:29:39,952 with a director or a producer to be like, 541 00:29:39,995 --> 00:29:41,736 "So, you're are okay with these things?" 542 00:29:41,780 --> 00:29:43,564 check, check, check is not 543 00:29:43,607 --> 00:29:47,916 a very thorough way to define your boundaries. 544 00:29:51,877 --> 00:29:55,489 There is so much shame around the body, 545 00:29:55,532 --> 00:29:56,838 around desire. 546 00:29:58,448 --> 00:30:01,843 There are a lot of directors who don't know how to talk 547 00:30:01,887 --> 00:30:05,238 about sex because it remains 548 00:30:05,281 --> 00:30:09,764 this forbidden area of our lives. 549 00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:22,821 Oh, God, oh, Jesus Christ. 550 00:30:22,864 --> 00:30:26,476 The 1960s and the early '70s were 551 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,783 the era of sexual revolution. 552 00:30:30,524 --> 00:30:32,178 Everything was changing, 553 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,446 and with the rise of hardcore pornography on big screens, 554 00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:43,885 the avant garde like Andy Warhol's art films 555 00:30:43,929 --> 00:30:47,019 and the Europeans leading the way, 556 00:30:47,367 --> 00:30:52,067 I think it just became absurd for movies to pretend 557 00:30:52,111 --> 00:30:55,027 that the era of the code was still operating. 558 00:30:56,028 --> 00:30:59,031 Mom. this is John. 559 00:31:03,992 --> 00:31:08,692 The world of European sexual liberty- 560 00:31:08,997 --> 00:31:10,259 He is. 561 00:31:10,303 --> 00:31:13,654 and American prudery sort of come together 562 00:31:13,697 --> 00:31:15,786 in the career of Jane Fonda. 563 00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:17,919 Man, you sure do look different. 564 00:31:17,963 --> 00:31:20,791 Oh, boy, you not only don't talk much, you don't say much. 565 00:31:20,835 --> 00:31:22,576 In the first part of my career 566 00:31:22,619 --> 00:31:24,926 when I was playing ingenue roles here 567 00:31:24,970 --> 00:31:26,406 in the United States, 568 00:31:26,449 --> 00:31:28,234 I was never asked to take my clothes off. 569 00:31:28,277 --> 00:31:30,932 I mean, this was late '50s, early '60s. 570 00:31:30,976 --> 00:31:34,544 It wasn't until I went to France 571 00:31:34,588 --> 00:31:37,721 under the guidance of Roger Vadim. 572 00:31:37,765 --> 00:31:41,029 I fell in love with him, and I eventually married him. 573 00:31:41,073 --> 00:31:42,901 I knew what I was getting into. 574 00:31:42,944 --> 00:31:45,164 He never made a movie where women weren't undressed. 575 00:31:45,686 --> 00:31:47,601 So, I knew that was coming along, and it did, 576 00:31:47,644 --> 00:31:48,776 and I did it. 577 00:31:56,697 --> 00:32:00,919 Roger promised me that he would use the letters 578 00:32:00,962 --> 00:32:04,923 of the titles to cover the important things, 579 00:32:07,621 --> 00:32:11,451 which was only partly realized. 580 00:32:14,976 --> 00:32:17,631 I was utterly terrified. 581 00:32:18,197 --> 00:32:19,067 I was 30. 582 00:32:19,111 --> 00:32:20,329 I should have known better, 583 00:32:21,461 --> 00:32:24,551 but I was at a place in my life 584 00:32:24,594 --> 00:32:26,988 when, if you were asked to do something, 585 00:32:27,032 --> 00:32:29,860 especially by a man, you did it. 586 00:32:36,302 --> 00:32:38,869 I didn't know anything about nudity clauses, 587 00:32:38,913 --> 00:32:41,046 and contracts, and all those other things. 588 00:32:41,089 --> 00:32:42,830 I just did what I was told, 589 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:48,967 and so I just got drunk basically. 590 00:32:51,273 --> 00:32:54,798 Now, it was possible to play with different rules, 591 00:32:55,712 --> 00:32:57,976 but the different rules were not 592 00:32:58,846 --> 00:33:01,327 a whole lot different from the old rules. 593 00:33:03,503 --> 00:33:06,027 I think these early films show 594 00:33:06,071 --> 00:33:11,032 how, for men, sex is a very homosocial relation, 595 00:33:12,207 --> 00:33:14,993 whether it's Jon Voight and Dustin Hoffman 596 00:33:15,036 --> 00:33:16,559 in "Midnight Cowboy," 597 00:33:18,431 --> 00:33:21,042 or Art Garfunkel and Jack Nicholson 598 00:33:21,086 --> 00:33:23,001 in "Carnal Knowledge." 599 00:33:23,044 --> 00:33:24,480 What do you say? 600 00:33:24,524 --> 00:33:27,527 What the man is often doing is proving 601 00:33:27,570 --> 00:33:32,575 his virility to his friends via a woman. 602 00:33:34,186 --> 00:33:38,146 Breasts were now completely available for looking at, 603 00:33:39,060 --> 00:33:43,717 but male frontal nudity was really frowned on. 604 00:33:44,283 --> 00:33:47,025 Real portrayal of romance and intimacy 605 00:33:48,330 --> 00:33:51,072 as it's practiced in life weren't part 606 00:33:51,116 --> 00:33:54,380 of the American cinematic lexicon 607 00:33:54,423 --> 00:33:57,731 for decades, and decades, and decades. 608 00:33:59,994 --> 00:34:03,737 And suddenly, when censorship lifted in the 1960s, 609 00:34:03,780 --> 00:34:07,349 we went from having romance without sex 610 00:34:07,393 --> 00:34:09,482 to having sex without romance. 611 00:34:12,528 --> 00:34:17,533 Oh, yeah, wait, why don't you turn out the lights? 612 00:34:21,537 --> 00:34:25,063 In the '70s so-called blaxploitation films, 613 00:34:25,106 --> 00:34:30,068 you see a lot of sex, drugs, lots of female nudity, 614 00:34:31,373 --> 00:34:33,506 and these different characters 615 00:34:33,549 --> 00:34:37,597 who were not Sidney Poitier being accepted 616 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,555 into a white world. 617 00:34:41,122 --> 00:34:44,430 You have bad-ass heroes, right, Black heroes. 618 00:34:48,738 --> 00:34:51,480 They spoke to the Black Power movement 619 00:34:51,785 --> 00:34:53,395 and the Black feminist movement. 620 00:34:54,918 --> 00:34:59,401 You want me to crawl, white motherfucker? 621 00:34:59,445 --> 00:35:00,185 What are you doing? 622 00:35:00,228 --> 00:35:01,447 Put that down. 623 00:35:01,490 --> 00:35:04,667 You wanna spit on me and make me crawl? 624 00:35:04,711 --> 00:35:06,278 The people loved it. 625 00:35:07,540 --> 00:35:09,368 We were breaking all kinds of records. 626 00:35:10,978 --> 00:35:14,112 Black women were, quote, "sex goddesses" 627 00:35:14,155 --> 00:35:15,765 for the very first time. 628 00:35:18,551 --> 00:35:20,944 For our hue, it was new. 629 00:35:20,988 --> 00:35:25,166 How many love scenes did you see of us in any movie 630 00:35:25,210 --> 00:35:27,516 during that period of the '60s and '70s? 631 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,387 None. 632 00:35:29,562 --> 00:35:30,824 But, of course, there was controversy 633 00:35:30,867 --> 00:35:32,521 from the very beginning. 634 00:35:32,565 --> 00:35:33,522 Hey. 635 00:35:33,566 --> 00:35:35,263 There's harems of women who are 636 00:35:35,307 --> 00:35:37,265 at the disposal of these men, 637 00:35:38,614 --> 00:35:43,750 which really highlighted their sexual bodies, 638 00:35:45,708 --> 00:35:48,450 sort of an extreme voyeuristic eroticism. 639 00:35:53,107 --> 00:35:56,023 ♪ Live any let die 640 00:35:57,329 --> 00:35:58,678 Turn around slowly. 641 00:35:59,853 --> 00:36:01,333 Course, you had Gloria Hendry, 642 00:36:01,376 --> 00:36:03,596 who was first Black woman being a Bond girl. 643 00:36:05,206 --> 00:36:07,774 Oh, beautiful, brave, and now resourceful. 644 00:36:07,817 --> 00:36:09,645 It was really a watershed moment. 645 00:36:12,170 --> 00:36:13,823 But the film only goes so far. 646 00:36:17,697 --> 00:36:19,829 I think that the white people were scared 647 00:36:19,873 --> 00:36:22,919 of the repercussions of their base, 648 00:36:22,963 --> 00:36:25,661 having a black actress wind up with Bond. 649 00:36:25,705 --> 00:36:27,315 Oh, James. 650 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,453 She's killed, of course. 651 00:36:34,496 --> 00:36:37,717 A Black actress couldn't possibly wind up with Bond. 652 00:36:57,302 --> 00:37:00,043 Out of 5,000 pairs of legs, I was chosen, 653 00:37:01,088 --> 00:37:03,264 and I thought, "Wow, no one's ever gonna know 654 00:37:03,308 --> 00:37:05,527 that it's me on the screen." 655 00:37:06,615 --> 00:37:08,313 It was just like a cattle call, and they were like, 656 00:37:08,356 --> 00:37:09,227 "Your legs, yes. 657 00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:10,053 Your legs, no. 658 00:37:10,097 --> 00:37:11,229 Your legs, maybe." 659 00:37:13,143 --> 00:37:15,233 Okay, let's bring in the body double. 660 00:37:15,276 --> 00:37:16,582 Okay, good, stay right in there. 661 00:37:16,625 --> 00:37:17,713 - Hi. - Hi. 662 00:37:17,757 --> 00:37:19,149 I'm Mindy, pleased to meet you. 663 00:37:19,193 --> 00:37:20,412 Nice to meet you. 664 00:37:20,455 --> 00:37:23,023 Our body is on the film that you're seeing. 665 00:37:24,285 --> 00:37:27,897 You're there to make the actress look perfect, 666 00:37:29,595 --> 00:37:34,643 perfect legs, perfect breasts, perfect body. 667 00:37:34,687 --> 00:37:37,516 I think the public would be shocked to find out 668 00:37:37,907 --> 00:37:40,519 how many hands aren't really the hand 669 00:37:40,562 --> 00:37:43,435 of the talent or the butt of the talent. 670 00:37:44,566 --> 00:37:49,136 Kim Basinger, Madonna, Barbara Streisand. 671 00:37:49,702 --> 00:37:51,530 In "Pretty Woman," the whole opening scene 672 00:37:51,573 --> 00:37:54,750 where she's getting dressed to meet Richard Gear, 673 00:37:54,794 --> 00:37:55,925 that's my body. 674 00:37:58,145 --> 00:38:01,017 Body doubling is really hush-hush. 675 00:38:03,368 --> 00:38:05,021 I was Janet Lee's acting double 676 00:38:05,065 --> 00:38:06,762 in the shower scene of "Psycho." 677 00:38:07,937 --> 00:38:09,199 You don't see her face. 678 00:38:09,243 --> 00:38:10,331 That's me. 679 00:38:13,552 --> 00:38:14,944 That's the back of my head, 680 00:38:14,988 --> 00:38:17,556 my hands, my arms, my belly button. 681 00:38:24,214 --> 00:38:27,305 Janet Lee wrote her biography, and she let on 682 00:38:27,348 --> 00:38:28,828 that she did the whole thing. 683 00:38:29,394 --> 00:38:32,310 Pissed me off 684 00:38:33,354 --> 00:38:35,182 that I wasn't recognized. 685 00:38:37,184 --> 00:38:41,493 In "Rising Sun," I was the live body sushi plate. 686 00:38:45,235 --> 00:38:46,367 - Police. - SWAT team was breaking 687 00:38:46,411 --> 00:38:47,107 through the window, and I'm there nude 688 00:38:47,150 --> 00:38:47,325 with the sushi on me, 689 00:38:48,413 --> 00:38:49,892 and I remember looking away saying, 690 00:38:49,936 --> 00:38:52,199 "I'm not gonna get cut by the glass." 691 00:38:53,418 --> 00:38:54,549 But if your a body double, 692 00:38:54,593 --> 00:38:55,985 they pull you out like a chicken dinner. 693 00:38:56,029 --> 00:38:57,291 You're like, "Bring out the breast, 694 00:38:57,335 --> 00:38:59,598 bring out the thighs, bring out the leg." 695 00:38:59,641 --> 00:39:01,426 They just think, "Oh, you're just there." 696 00:39:01,469 --> 00:39:03,123 You're just kind of not real. 697 00:39:12,698 --> 00:39:16,919 Somebody in the producing department wants there 698 00:39:16,963 --> 00:39:19,008 to be less smile lines, 699 00:39:20,096 --> 00:39:22,055 so it aged her down slightly. 700 00:39:25,058 --> 00:39:27,800 My work consists of visual effects, generally, 701 00:39:27,843 --> 00:39:31,151 but a lot of requests I get from clients is 702 00:39:31,194 --> 00:39:32,500 to do beauty work. 703 00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:37,897 She's got her little mole here, just sample it 704 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,725 and erase it. 705 00:39:40,943 --> 00:39:44,556 Removing blemishes, freckles, pubic hair, 706 00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:47,733 slimming people up, making 'em look younger. 707 00:39:48,603 --> 00:39:51,432 It was a heavily guarded secret when it first came out. 708 00:39:51,476 --> 00:39:55,480 Now, most people on television and film get it done. 709 00:40:05,272 --> 00:40:08,144 As far as making somebody look younger, 710 00:40:08,188 --> 00:40:10,538 it's mostly a request for women, 711 00:40:11,539 --> 00:40:14,934 cleaning up, like, bags under the eyes or neck wrinkles. 712 00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:19,068 I get asked to do face replacements a lot, 713 00:40:19,112 --> 00:40:21,723 and usually, that has to do with stunts. 714 00:40:21,767 --> 00:40:25,248 So, if there's a stunt double, and their face is visible, 715 00:40:25,292 --> 00:40:27,381 then we put the actual actor's face on the stunt. 716 00:40:27,816 --> 00:40:29,296 But they're starting to do this 717 00:40:29,339 --> 00:40:30,993 more often for beauty purposes, 718 00:40:31,037 --> 00:40:34,301 so you get a stunt body or a body double. 719 00:40:36,259 --> 00:40:39,349 In "Game of Thrones," it was somebody else's body, 720 00:40:39,393 --> 00:40:41,439 and her head was literally stitched 721 00:40:41,482 --> 00:40:42,701 right on top of that body. 722 00:40:45,443 --> 00:40:47,706 There was a request that came in from a client for me 723 00:40:47,749 --> 00:40:51,187 to remove a postnatal belly 724 00:40:51,971 --> 00:40:54,147 because this actress had just given birth. 725 00:40:56,628 --> 00:41:00,109 So, that was just a matter of taking her body, 726 00:41:00,153 --> 00:41:04,113 rotoing it out, cutting it out, squeezing it, 727 00:41:04,157 --> 00:41:06,159 and then basically putting it right back on 728 00:41:06,202 --> 00:41:07,377 and cleaning up the background 729 00:41:07,421 --> 00:41:08,988 wherever her belly would've been. 730 00:41:11,338 --> 00:41:13,862 This is before, and that's after. 731 00:41:15,385 --> 00:41:18,171 Actors and actresses buy into it, and they persist it, 732 00:41:18,214 --> 00:41:21,174 and they ask for it because they believe 733 00:41:21,217 --> 00:41:23,045 that this is important, and this is needed, 734 00:41:23,089 --> 00:41:25,439 and that we need to portray our best selves. 735 00:41:27,354 --> 00:41:29,225 We should all be looking like China dolls. 736 00:41:29,269 --> 00:41:31,924 You know, we should all have flawless faces. 737 00:41:32,838 --> 00:41:35,884 Whatever we do, we always wanna look our very best. 738 00:41:38,365 --> 00:41:42,151 I don't respond to ultra beauty in my life. 739 00:41:42,674 --> 00:41:46,329 I like flaws, and I like to see natural people. 740 00:41:46,373 --> 00:41:48,810 I feel like I'm part of the problem 741 00:41:48,854 --> 00:41:50,508 instead of the solution for that. 742 00:41:55,861 --> 00:41:57,340 Dammit, it's Barbara McNeil. 743 00:41:57,384 --> 00:41:58,341 I can't see a thing. 744 00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:01,519 In American movies, 745 00:42:01,562 --> 00:42:02,998 Mind if I join you? 746 00:42:03,042 --> 00:42:05,784 there has always been limits 747 00:42:05,827 --> 00:42:08,221 to who's allowed to be sexual. 748 00:42:11,485 --> 00:42:14,575 I worked for a television producer earlier in my career, 749 00:42:14,619 --> 00:42:18,361 who, when we were casting day-player roles, said 750 00:42:18,405 --> 00:42:20,842 "There are no fat women in my shows." 751 00:42:21,713 --> 00:42:23,497 And I remember, at the time, going, 752 00:42:23,541 --> 00:42:26,587 "Wow, like, he's created a whole universe," 753 00:42:26,631 --> 00:42:30,373 and it's true, in his brand, there are no fat women. 754 00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:32,593 I'm fat. 755 00:42:32,637 --> 00:42:34,073 That's not a bad word. 756 00:42:34,116 --> 00:42:37,729 And I am fat naked and in front of a lover, too. 757 00:42:38,643 --> 00:42:41,080 I only see that as a joke. 758 00:42:43,648 --> 00:42:45,040 I get it. 759 00:42:45,084 --> 00:42:46,738 You're self-conscious about your body. 760 00:42:47,347 --> 00:42:50,306 Don't worry, I was gonna shut the lights off anyway. 761 00:42:50,350 --> 00:42:51,612 But then it causes for us to be like, 762 00:42:51,656 --> 00:42:52,831 "Turn off the lights. 763 00:42:52,874 --> 00:42:54,049 Don't see me." 764 00:42:54,093 --> 00:42:56,574 What we see on the screen affects 765 00:42:56,617 --> 00:42:58,967 what you take into the bedroom. 766 00:42:59,011 --> 00:43:01,100 You're cool with going out the back again, right? 767 00:43:01,143 --> 00:43:01,970 Um. 768 00:43:03,668 --> 00:43:06,932 It is very few, very few, 769 00:43:07,541 --> 00:43:12,633 extremely rare, and far between to see people 770 00:43:12,677 --> 00:43:15,767 with disabilities in sexual situations. 771 00:43:17,507 --> 00:43:21,729 So, people don't genuinely think that it exists. 772 00:43:22,121 --> 00:43:25,907 I don't want you to miss all the things 773 00:43:25,951 --> 00:43:27,474 that someone else could give you. 774 00:43:27,648 --> 00:43:28,780 Luisa. 775 00:43:31,652 --> 00:43:33,045 I once told my manager, 776 00:43:33,088 --> 00:43:35,787 "I'm not gonna play anybody in a hospital. 777 00:43:35,830 --> 00:43:38,746 I'm not gonna play anymore lawyers 778 00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:41,488 or desexualized trans people, 779 00:43:41,531 --> 00:43:43,403 and I'm not gonna play anyone 780 00:43:43,446 --> 00:43:45,013 who visits anybody in a hospital," 781 00:43:45,057 --> 00:43:46,667 and I didn't work for two years. 782 00:43:47,799 --> 00:43:49,714 So, if I keep taking the hormones. 783 00:43:49,757 --> 00:43:51,498 You'd be feeding the cancer. 784 00:43:51,541 --> 00:43:55,371 Are you saying, if I become a woman, I could die? 785 00:43:56,503 --> 00:43:59,724 In Hollywood, exclusion is part of the story. 786 00:44:01,726 --> 00:44:02,683 Hey, try this. 787 00:44:03,162 --> 00:44:04,946 When I was a teenager, 788 00:44:04,990 --> 00:44:07,993 there wasn't that much queer representation at all. 789 00:44:08,036 --> 00:44:09,647 So, what do you think? 790 00:44:09,690 --> 00:44:12,127 You'd, like, scour the video store 791 00:44:12,171 --> 00:44:16,131 for, like, obtuse glances between women on video boxes. 792 00:44:18,525 --> 00:44:21,746 In the "Color Purple," these women love each other. 793 00:44:21,789 --> 00:44:23,051 They see each other sexually, 794 00:44:23,095 --> 00:44:27,273 but doesn't go full on into sex scenes. 795 00:44:33,714 --> 00:44:35,629 You two have met, haven't you? 796 00:44:35,673 --> 00:44:39,372 Or, it's about some weird male fantasy spectacle. 797 00:44:42,114 --> 00:44:43,637 And we have to remember the sensors are 798 00:44:43,681 --> 00:44:46,771 white, cisgender, heteronormative men 799 00:44:48,250 --> 00:44:49,904 who said, "Look, if you're gonna do this, 800 00:44:49,948 --> 00:44:53,778 if you're gonna be naked, we wanna see two women together 801 00:44:53,821 --> 00:44:54,866 'cause that's art." 802 00:44:56,215 --> 00:44:57,695 Right? 803 00:44:57,738 --> 00:44:58,913 Penises are pornography. 804 00:44:58,957 --> 00:44:59,958 Tits are art. 805 00:45:14,276 --> 00:45:15,321 Film has been 806 00:45:16,626 --> 00:45:19,717 men showing other men what they see. 807 00:45:21,457 --> 00:45:23,633 What is visual pleasure? 808 00:45:30,466 --> 00:45:33,339 It's not actually about watching two other people. 809 00:45:33,382 --> 00:45:35,123 All it is is about the male fantasy. 810 00:45:37,952 --> 00:45:42,827 I don't know anything that I saw growing up that told me 811 00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:45,307 that I could have the agenda 812 00:45:45,351 --> 00:45:47,222 of being the one who wanted the pleasure. 813 00:45:50,095 --> 00:45:54,142 Nobody actually tells a woman that, when she has sex, 814 00:45:54,186 --> 00:45:55,578 you know, there is a space 815 00:45:55,622 --> 00:45:57,232 where she gets to have the pleasure. 816 00:45:57,798 --> 00:46:00,061 She's not the one just giving pleasure. 817 00:46:01,671 --> 00:46:04,674 How women are satisfied, what that looks like, 818 00:46:04,718 --> 00:46:07,895 how that works in real life, 819 00:46:07,939 --> 00:46:09,984 like, it's still a mystery, I think, to so many people. 820 00:46:19,994 --> 00:46:21,039 Tell me what you think. 821 00:46:24,694 --> 00:46:25,652 Honestly? 822 00:46:26,914 --> 00:46:28,307 Think about all the movies 823 00:46:28,350 --> 00:46:29,787 where men would be having an important conversation- 824 00:46:30,570 --> 00:46:32,398 Here's to old friends. 825 00:46:32,441 --> 00:46:33,834 and hot women would just be sitting at the table 826 00:46:33,878 --> 00:46:35,183 while it's happening just, like, 827 00:46:35,227 --> 00:46:37,664 kind of just there as decoration. 828 00:46:38,099 --> 00:46:39,797 This round's on me. 829 00:46:40,058 --> 00:46:42,538 The way in which women can just be 830 00:46:42,582 --> 00:46:46,064 kind of present but unnecessary. 831 00:46:47,543 --> 00:46:51,286 You be the man, and you be the woman. 832 00:46:51,330 --> 00:46:53,332 You had to cast those two girls, 833 00:46:53,375 --> 00:46:57,249 and they had to sit there fake fucking all day, 834 00:46:57,292 --> 00:46:59,686 and it's kind of a bummer. 835 00:47:00,165 --> 00:47:03,690 I think it really does damage to girls in particular. 836 00:47:03,733 --> 00:47:07,868 That's what bothers me, girls feeling that they have 837 00:47:07,912 --> 00:47:11,132 to behave a certain way and look a certain way. 838 00:47:13,918 --> 00:47:16,703 Without even consciously realizing it, 839 00:47:16,746 --> 00:47:19,358 they will just assume that they are less than. 840 00:47:20,707 --> 00:47:23,188 That they don't quite count as much. 841 00:47:25,712 --> 00:47:30,195 The more that we perpetuate and condone women 842 00:47:30,238 --> 00:47:32,545 as being merely sex objects, 843 00:47:32,588 --> 00:47:35,678 the more readily boys grow into men thinking 844 00:47:35,722 --> 00:47:37,680 that that's how women wanna be treated. 845 00:47:38,681 --> 00:47:40,770 It's in every movie and TV show they've ever watched. 846 00:48:10,888 --> 00:48:13,586 Actors who are starting out are used in these films 847 00:48:13,629 --> 00:48:15,370 that ask for nudity and sex scenes 848 00:48:15,414 --> 00:48:18,199 because they don't know how to advocate for themselves, 849 00:48:18,243 --> 00:48:20,680 or they don't have the power to advocate for themselves. 850 00:48:20,723 --> 00:48:23,857 An A-list actor who's asked to do a nude scene, 851 00:48:23,901 --> 00:48:25,903 they can have a body double. 852 00:48:25,946 --> 00:48:27,774 They get to say, "The light has to be dim, 853 00:48:27,817 --> 00:48:29,907 and the actor can only touch me from here to here." 854 00:48:29,950 --> 00:48:32,866 It's like I have never had 855 00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:36,391 that much protection in a film, 856 00:48:36,435 --> 00:48:38,089 but I've done nudity a lot. 857 00:48:38,132 --> 00:48:40,265 Like, I've done sex scenes a lot. 858 00:48:40,308 --> 00:48:41,962 It's like, "Oh, you have to pay your dues, 859 00:48:42,006 --> 00:48:43,746 and you just have to be grateful 860 00:48:43,790 --> 00:48:44,922 that you're here at all." 861 00:48:51,319 --> 00:48:53,278 I'm not some great, fabulous beauty. 862 00:48:53,321 --> 00:48:55,367 When I walk into a room, people don't turn around 863 00:48:55,410 --> 00:48:56,411 and go, like, "Who's that girl? 864 00:48:56,455 --> 00:48:57,325 Put her in the picture." 865 00:48:59,545 --> 00:49:02,940 I started taking classes at James Franco's acting school. 866 00:49:03,592 --> 00:49:07,292 When James took a chance on me, I was so grateful. 867 00:49:11,818 --> 00:49:15,082 The way that I got hired for "The Long Home" was 868 00:49:15,126 --> 00:49:17,606 by getting a text message from James. 869 00:49:17,650 --> 00:49:18,564 He said, 870 00:49:18,607 --> 00:49:19,957 "I want you to be in my movie. 871 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,567 Nudity will be required. 872 00:49:21,610 --> 00:49:22,611 You're playing a prostitute. 873 00:49:22,655 --> 00:49:23,786 Do you wanna do it?" 874 00:49:23,830 --> 00:49:25,745 And I said, 875 00:49:25,788 --> 00:49:28,095 "Absolutely, like, no questions asked, yes." 876 00:49:34,536 --> 00:49:37,148 Hey, Candy, they want you. 877 00:49:39,628 --> 00:49:42,327 And then, things started to sort of get a little tricky 878 00:49:42,370 --> 00:49:45,417 because there were some scenes that were added that weren't 879 00:49:45,460 --> 00:49:47,636 in the script that required nudity, 880 00:49:49,508 --> 00:49:50,988 and one actress didn't wanna do it. 881 00:49:54,513 --> 00:49:56,602 The next thing I know, she's on a plane back to LA, 882 00:49:56,645 --> 00:49:58,212 and she's not in the movie. 883 00:49:58,256 --> 00:50:01,476 And I realized, if I do something like that, 884 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,043 if I say, "I'm uncomfortable with this, 885 00:50:03,087 --> 00:50:05,480 I don't wanna do this," I'll lose my job. 886 00:50:12,444 --> 00:50:13,836 Sarah Scott is an actress 887 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,664 whose most recent work includes 888 00:50:15,708 --> 00:50:18,493 an appearance on the Seth McFarland show "The Orville," 889 00:50:18,537 --> 00:50:20,017 and she played Courtney Love in the film 890 00:50:20,060 --> 00:50:21,061 "Soaked in Bleach." 891 00:50:21,105 --> 00:50:22,236 Thank you for having the courage 892 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,759 to come in and talk to us. 893 00:50:24,543 --> 00:50:27,285 This is an incident that happened in May of '18, 2018. 894 00:50:27,328 --> 00:50:30,288 Mm-hmm, it's an independent TV pilot. 895 00:50:30,331 --> 00:50:32,377 It was the last scene of the day. 896 00:50:37,425 --> 00:50:39,601 I remember being really cold that night 897 00:50:39,645 --> 00:50:41,690 and made mention of it. 898 00:50:43,649 --> 00:50:45,694 My scene partner cuddled up to me 899 00:50:45,738 --> 00:50:47,348 and said he would keep me warm. 900 00:50:49,133 --> 00:50:51,265 Knowing that we were about to start kissing, 901 00:50:51,309 --> 00:50:52,658 I just kind of went with that. 902 00:50:52,701 --> 00:50:53,963 That was fine. 903 00:50:54,007 --> 00:50:56,923 He cuddled up to me, and didn't think much of it. 904 00:50:59,926 --> 00:51:03,582 At that point, he took my hand under the covers 905 00:51:03,625 --> 00:51:07,934 and brought it over to his erection. 906 00:51:19,163 --> 00:51:20,555 I pulled my hand back 907 00:51:20,599 --> 00:51:22,383 and looked back over my shoulder, like, 908 00:51:22,427 --> 00:51:23,167 "What the fuck?" 909 00:51:23,602 --> 00:51:25,082 And he just said, "Sorry." 910 00:51:29,782 --> 00:51:31,218 I've thought a lot about this. 911 00:51:31,871 --> 00:51:33,133 I'm not upset with myself 912 00:51:33,177 --> 00:51:34,743 that I didn't do something in the moment. 913 00:51:34,787 --> 00:51:37,137 I'm very well aware that that's very common. 914 00:51:37,790 --> 00:51:41,750 A lot of the women I've spoken to don't ever say anything, 915 00:51:41,794 --> 00:51:46,320 and I think being in a professional setting, 916 00:51:46,364 --> 00:51:48,540 I also just wanted to be a professional 917 00:51:48,583 --> 00:51:50,846 and keep going and finish the day off. 918 00:51:50,890 --> 00:51:52,283 Cut, terrific. 919 00:51:56,983 --> 00:52:00,813 And so, after the day had wrapped up, 920 00:52:00,856 --> 00:52:03,250 and I was getting ready to leave for the night, 921 00:52:04,860 --> 00:52:07,254 my co-star walks through my dressing room 922 00:52:07,298 --> 00:52:10,649 and starts telling me that he's got a hard on. 923 00:52:10,692 --> 00:52:12,651 He's gotta go jerk off in the bathroom. 924 00:52:13,347 --> 00:52:16,263 When I turned around, he had taken out his penis 925 00:52:16,307 --> 00:52:18,657 and started to masturbate in front of me, 926 00:52:18,700 --> 00:52:19,658 two feet in front of me, 927 00:52:20,311 --> 00:52:21,442 and that's when I left. 928 00:52:22,791 --> 00:52:25,664 So, he did, however, in the "LA Times," give 929 00:52:25,707 --> 00:52:27,970 a statement saying that he was apologizing. 930 00:52:28,014 --> 00:52:30,451 He said he admitted that he had put 931 00:52:30,495 --> 00:52:32,584 your hand on his penis during a sex scene, 932 00:52:32,627 --> 00:52:35,021 but he said you were sexually aggressive. 933 00:52:36,414 --> 00:52:40,505 It was really disturbing to see what a convincing case 934 00:52:41,636 --> 00:52:45,031 he made in playing this sort of doe-eyed, 935 00:52:45,074 --> 00:52:47,773 innocent, embarrassed, 936 00:52:47,816 --> 00:52:50,210 "Oops, you know, I misread the situation," 937 00:52:51,037 --> 00:52:52,169 and then even used the words 938 00:52:53,561 --> 00:52:54,867 that, "I just mistook this for a perk of our jobs." 939 00:52:55,563 --> 00:52:59,306 It just became so clear to me that I was dealing 940 00:52:59,350 --> 00:53:02,353 with someone who was a a predator. 941 00:53:06,270 --> 00:53:10,056 I've been a proud union member for over 15 years. 942 00:53:10,099 --> 00:53:12,754 That's how I have my health insurance 943 00:53:12,798 --> 00:53:13,973 and support my family. 944 00:53:14,626 --> 00:53:17,063 So, the way that I see myself is 945 00:53:17,106 --> 00:53:19,457 that I'm kind of a blue-collar working actor. 946 00:53:21,850 --> 00:53:25,376 Okay, ladies, I wanna see ya dance, 947 00:53:25,419 --> 00:53:26,942 and I wanna see ya smile. 948 00:53:29,728 --> 00:53:30,468 And you. 949 00:53:31,730 --> 00:53:32,339 I started to get this feeling like I was 950 00:53:32,383 --> 00:53:33,340 the first actress 951 00:53:33,384 --> 00:53:35,429 to ever call the union and say, 952 00:53:35,473 --> 00:53:38,127 "Hey, I've been sexually violated at work." 953 00:53:39,259 --> 00:53:40,521 It's interesting because 954 00:53:40,565 --> 00:53:42,654 the SAG-AFTRA basic agreement is 955 00:53:42,697 --> 00:53:45,396 800 pages or something like that, 956 00:53:45,439 --> 00:53:47,702 and nudity is, like, a page, 957 00:53:47,746 --> 00:53:48,529 if that. Hmm. 958 00:53:48,573 --> 00:53:49,400 It's like- 959 00:53:49,443 --> 00:53:50,444 - Yeah. - Wow. 960 00:53:50,488 --> 00:53:51,228 It's, like, I literally have it- 961 00:53:51,271 --> 00:53:52,577 - Wow. - Right here on, 962 00:53:52,620 --> 00:53:53,534 it's half a page. 963 00:53:53,578 --> 00:53:54,883 It's this. Wow. 964 00:53:54,927 --> 00:53:56,276 And sexual harassment is 965 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,235 not mentioned in 800 pages. 966 00:53:58,278 --> 00:53:59,061 - Really? - Yeah. 967 00:53:59,105 --> 00:54:00,062 Mm-hmm. 968 00:54:00,106 --> 00:54:00,715 - Yeah - Interesting. 969 00:54:00,759 --> 00:54:01,977 - Yeah. - Hmm. 970 00:54:02,021 --> 00:54:03,283 The situations, like, that I've been in, 971 00:54:03,327 --> 00:54:04,589 I think that, like, the gentleman, you know, 972 00:54:04,632 --> 00:54:05,894 whatever happened, it wouldn't have happened 973 00:54:05,938 --> 00:54:09,594 had I been more famous or more powerful than than he. 974 00:54:11,291 --> 00:54:15,643 I was told by someone in the legal department verbatim 975 00:54:15,687 --> 00:54:19,647 that, quote, I "probably wouldn't be satisfied 976 00:54:20,605 --> 00:54:22,650 with the result of the hearing." 977 00:54:22,694 --> 00:54:26,263 And I interpreted that as basically 978 00:54:26,306 --> 00:54:27,568 nothing's gonna happen. 979 00:54:31,398 --> 00:54:34,140 When the "LA Times" article came out, 980 00:54:34,183 --> 00:54:39,014 a lot of actresses reached out to me just telling me, 981 00:54:40,581 --> 00:54:42,453 you know, how proud they were 982 00:54:42,496 --> 00:54:43,323 and how, 983 00:54:46,587 --> 00:54:49,286 how many actresses had similar experiences 984 00:54:49,329 --> 00:54:50,548 but never said anything, 985 00:54:52,593 --> 00:54:54,160 and that made my stomach turn, 986 00:54:54,203 --> 00:54:57,337 just the realization that this is such a widespread problem 987 00:54:58,686 --> 00:54:59,644 in this industry. 988 00:55:13,353 --> 00:55:15,877 What does it mean for boys and girls 989 00:55:15,921 --> 00:55:18,445 to grow up in a culture where they see men 990 00:55:18,489 --> 00:55:21,187 being aggressive in film to get the girl? 991 00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:24,669 They pull women into these passionate kisses. 992 00:55:26,148 --> 00:55:27,628 Stop it. 993 00:55:27,889 --> 00:55:30,457 Maybe she resists a little bit, like, right at first, 994 00:55:30,501 --> 00:55:32,677 but he can kiss her into submission. 995 00:55:38,813 --> 00:55:40,467 Wait a minute, wait a minute. 996 00:55:44,428 --> 00:55:46,386 Now that's a really common scene. 997 00:55:55,526 --> 00:55:56,744 Hollywood certainly knows 998 00:55:56,788 --> 00:55:59,181 how to do violence very, very well, 999 00:56:00,444 --> 00:56:02,881 much better than it knows how to do sex. 1000 00:56:05,013 --> 00:56:08,408 When sex and violence come together, it's rape. 1001 00:56:09,757 --> 00:56:11,498 No, no. 1002 00:56:12,456 --> 00:56:14,632 There's so many rape scenes in movies 1003 00:56:14,675 --> 00:56:16,373 because a lot of times, you know, 1004 00:56:16,416 --> 00:56:18,157 scripts are written, and they imagine 1005 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,724 that this is the only way 1006 00:56:19,767 --> 00:56:22,727 a female character can get strong is if she's raped 1007 00:56:22,770 --> 00:56:25,469 for no apparent reason other than they think 1008 00:56:25,512 --> 00:56:27,819 something bad needs to happen to her so she can rise up 1009 00:56:27,862 --> 00:56:30,082 and go murder all the people in revenge. 1010 00:56:33,694 --> 00:56:35,479 What kind of message does that send out? 1011 00:56:36,567 --> 00:56:38,177 My name is Buck, 1012 00:56:38,220 --> 00:56:41,528 and I'm here to fuck. 1013 00:56:41,572 --> 00:56:45,706 Your name is Buck, and you came here to fuck. 1014 00:56:46,533 --> 00:56:47,360 Right? 1015 00:56:47,404 --> 00:56:49,231 Wait a minute, wait. 1016 00:56:51,059 --> 00:56:52,278 There's some hatred for women going on 1017 00:56:52,321 --> 00:56:55,063 when you have to brutalize people, you know, 1018 00:56:55,107 --> 00:56:57,196 and treat them as subhuman but then 1019 00:56:57,501 --> 00:57:00,155 get the glory that you create strong female characters. 1020 00:57:00,504 --> 00:57:02,070 That's not strong women. 1021 00:57:02,114 --> 00:57:03,768 Those are brutalized women that have to survive -- 1022 00:57:08,294 --> 00:57:09,730 and look good while doing so. 1023 00:57:16,171 --> 00:57:17,564 In the age of the Internet, 1024 00:57:17,608 --> 00:57:19,697 actors have to make these decision of, 1025 00:57:19,740 --> 00:57:23,178 "If I'm nude, it's going to get GIF'd 1026 00:57:23,222 --> 00:57:26,268 and played on a loop." 1027 00:57:26,312 --> 00:57:28,140 You can't regulate that anymore. 1028 00:57:32,927 --> 00:57:37,149 The nudity will get repurposed to do all sorts of things. 1029 00:57:37,192 --> 00:57:39,456 They'll put other people's faces on. 1030 00:57:43,634 --> 00:57:45,462 It's kind of not what they signed up for. 1031 00:57:47,855 --> 00:57:50,162 You have to literally go and fight them 1032 00:57:50,205 --> 00:57:53,034 on every single website these things appear on, 1033 00:57:53,078 --> 00:57:54,514 and even if you win, 1034 00:57:54,558 --> 00:57:56,821 the next day, it shows up on a different website. 1035 00:57:58,170 --> 00:58:01,260 The producer basically responded by saying, 1036 00:58:01,303 --> 00:58:02,261 "This is just what happens. 1037 00:58:02,304 --> 00:58:03,828 This is part of being an actor." 1038 00:58:08,223 --> 00:58:10,138 When "Jennifer's Body" was coming out, 1039 00:58:10,182 --> 00:58:12,706 we were at a new point where we were seeing 1040 00:58:12,750 --> 00:58:17,755 how social media can be used as a tool to shape perception. 1041 00:58:19,974 --> 00:58:24,109 In the film, I wanted to comment on the tropes 1042 00:58:24,152 --> 00:58:27,765 around how we look at girls and women's bodies 1043 00:58:27,808 --> 00:58:29,723 looking back at late '70s, 1044 00:58:29,767 --> 00:58:32,291 early '80s horror slasher films. 1045 00:58:32,334 --> 00:58:35,250 But what that requires is using the tropes. 1046 00:58:38,166 --> 00:58:42,693 There was a decision on the part of the studio, 1047 00:58:43,868 --> 00:58:46,914 I think, to market the film to young boys 1048 00:58:46,958 --> 00:58:49,177 as opposed to young women 1049 00:58:50,570 --> 00:58:53,312 as if to promise something with Megan Fox 1050 00:58:53,355 --> 00:58:54,879 that they were never gonna get. 1051 00:58:58,404 --> 00:59:00,232 I was shocked by the reaction 1052 00:59:00,275 --> 00:59:01,929 and the way social media kind of worked 1053 00:59:01,973 --> 00:59:04,453 so quickly against the film. 1054 00:59:21,427 --> 00:59:24,561 There was so much adolescent angst 1055 00:59:24,604 --> 00:59:28,390 about some lack of male relevance 1056 00:59:30,175 --> 00:59:32,264 and I think, since then, we've seen 1057 00:59:32,307 --> 00:59:35,876 how much warfare is waged against women 1058 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,923 by using their bodies against them. 1059 00:59:43,057 --> 00:59:47,584 Now, uh, pull your dress up and let me see your legs. 1060 00:59:49,063 --> 00:59:52,719 The Hollywood machine is something to be survived. 1061 00:59:56,244 --> 00:59:58,420 Turn around a second. 1062 00:59:58,464 --> 00:59:59,378 Something wrong? 1063 01:00:00,771 --> 01:00:03,556 Matter of fact, everything is very, very right. 1064 01:00:04,818 --> 01:00:08,517 It's very common to go to hotel rooms 1065 01:00:08,561 --> 01:00:09,954 and to be asked to audition. 1066 01:00:13,218 --> 01:00:15,916 That was kind of a thing back when I started. 1067 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:16,743 He's ready for you. 1068 01:00:16,787 --> 01:00:17,614 Thank you. 1069 01:00:20,747 --> 01:00:22,096 I was raised to believe 1070 01:00:22,140 --> 01:00:23,620 that you never wanted 1071 01:00:23,663 --> 01:00:25,012 to make a man uncomfortable. 1072 01:00:26,666 --> 01:00:27,580 You didn't wanna make 1073 01:00:27,624 --> 01:00:28,712 him feel like 1074 01:00:28,755 --> 01:00:30,148 he had done something wrong. 1075 01:00:31,453 --> 01:00:32,280 He grabbed me, 1076 01:00:35,457 --> 01:00:36,328 tried to kiss me. 1077 01:00:37,982 --> 01:00:41,159 So, if he advances on you, you know, your thing is 1078 01:00:41,202 --> 01:00:44,945 to kind of giggle and ease yourself out of there. 1079 01:00:46,991 --> 01:00:49,689 After I got blacklisted, I started being harassed 1080 01:00:49,733 --> 01:00:53,475 behind the scenes by my monster. 1081 01:00:54,694 --> 01:00:58,742 He, he has detectives on staff. 1082 01:01:05,183 --> 01:01:08,316 Harvey Weinstein is not the only one. 1083 01:01:09,796 --> 01:01:11,885 We have situations now where 1084 01:01:12,886 --> 01:01:14,148 it's taken a while for a client 1085 01:01:14,192 --> 01:01:16,368 to be willing to come out against somebody, 1086 01:01:17,543 --> 01:01:21,547 and you know, the studio makes excuses. 1087 01:01:22,983 --> 01:01:24,768 I can file a complaint for you if that's what you want, 1088 01:01:24,811 --> 01:01:28,859 but I think you know how it would come off. 1089 01:01:29,686 --> 01:01:32,297 You see all the people that protect Harvey, this predator, 1090 01:01:32,340 --> 01:01:35,517 and the many, many predators there are in this town 1091 01:01:35,561 --> 01:01:39,217 that are very big guys in the business. 1092 01:01:40,522 --> 01:01:42,176 There are so many other men. 1093 01:01:43,177 --> 01:01:44,396 They're not Harvey Weinsteins, 1094 01:01:44,439 --> 01:01:45,702 but I don't wanna wait 1095 01:01:45,745 --> 01:01:47,094 until these people are all Harvey Weinstein. 1096 01:01:47,138 --> 01:01:50,402 I want them to stop doing it now. 1097 01:01:50,445 --> 01:01:51,359 Dorothy, please. 1098 01:01:51,403 --> 01:01:52,447 Look, I want you. 1099 01:01:52,491 --> 01:01:54,623 Men feel entitled- 1100 01:01:56,190 --> 01:01:57,539 You probably just wanna try to do. 1101 01:01:57,583 --> 01:01:59,106 Okay. 1102 01:01:59,150 --> 01:02:01,761 by a lot of stuff that's rolling around in their heads 1103 01:02:01,805 --> 01:02:03,763 that has sexualized women 1104 01:02:03,807 --> 01:02:06,331 and embraced them as sexual commodities to the extent 1105 01:02:06,374 --> 01:02:08,637 that they feel comfortable doing that. 1106 01:02:10,074 --> 01:02:11,858 If you're wearing something, please get naked. 1107 01:02:11,902 --> 01:02:13,207 I believe in only two things, 1108 01:02:13,251 --> 01:02:14,861 the First Amendment and boobs. 1109 01:02:14,905 --> 01:02:16,602 She needs to drop a few. 1110 01:02:16,645 --> 01:02:17,734 What do you think about this? 1111 01:02:17,777 --> 01:02:18,909 Gretchen's beautiful. 1112 01:02:18,952 --> 01:02:19,866 Ooh, beautiful, you look beautiful. 1113 01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:21,085 I love the women's movement, 1114 01:02:21,128 --> 01:02:22,434 especially when walking behind it. 1115 01:02:22,477 --> 01:02:24,088 You know, when you're sold as a sex symbol, 1116 01:02:24,131 --> 01:02:26,264 it's like the message that men out there in the world get is 1117 01:02:26,307 --> 01:02:30,050 that they can all touch you and that they own you. 1118 01:02:30,094 --> 01:02:31,356 It makes her a slut, right? 1119 01:02:31,399 --> 01:02:33,880 He began running his hands over my body 1120 01:02:33,924 --> 01:02:36,230 and grinding into me. 1121 01:02:36,274 --> 01:02:37,841 Because you've turned them. 1122 01:02:37,884 --> 01:02:38,842 Nice, nice. 1123 01:02:38,885 --> 01:02:40,234 You've made them do it. 1124 01:02:40,931 --> 01:02:42,106 You can do anything. 1125 01:02:42,149 --> 01:02:43,281 Whatever you want. 1126 01:02:43,324 --> 01:02:44,586 Grab 'em by the pussy. 1127 01:02:45,762 --> 01:02:46,501 - Oh. - You can do anything. 1128 01:02:46,545 --> 01:02:47,154 Yes. 1129 01:02:48,765 --> 01:02:51,115 It really didn't feel that there was a system in place 1130 01:02:51,158 --> 01:02:53,334 for this kind of a complaint. 1131 01:02:53,378 --> 01:02:56,076 How sure can this committee be 1132 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,600 on the accuracy of your statements? 1133 01:02:59,906 --> 01:03:01,647 What you wanna do is destroy this guy's life. 1134 01:03:02,909 --> 01:03:04,824 Are you interested in writing a book? 1135 01:03:05,825 --> 01:03:07,087 Nobody has made amends. 1136 01:03:07,958 --> 01:03:09,089 Shame. 1137 01:03:09,133 --> 01:03:10,569 Nobody has apologized. 1138 01:03:10,612 --> 01:03:12,092 Nobody has taken ownership- Whore, whore. 1139 01:03:12,136 --> 01:03:14,312 of having done this to us. 1140 01:03:16,183 --> 01:03:17,402 Categorically 1141 01:03:17,445 --> 01:03:19,447 and unequivocally deny the allegation 1142 01:03:19,491 --> 01:03:20,927 against me by Dr. Ford. 1143 01:03:20,971 --> 01:03:23,800 I have not been guilty of sexual misconduct. 1144 01:03:23,843 --> 01:03:25,497 The allegation is completely false. 1145 01:03:26,933 --> 01:03:28,065 These allegations are false. 1146 01:03:28,108 --> 01:03:29,066 It's just not true. 1147 01:03:29,109 --> 01:03:30,458 Not true. 1148 01:03:31,982 --> 01:03:33,461 It can't just be on our shoulders, 1149 01:03:33,505 --> 01:03:36,987 and we can't continue to be gaslit by these people. 1150 01:03:37,030 --> 01:03:40,033 We're made to feel like we're crazy for being uncomfortable. 1151 01:03:40,991 --> 01:03:42,122 No, no. 1152 01:03:42,166 --> 01:03:43,341 - Nasty one. - I undressed her. 1153 01:03:43,384 --> 01:03:44,559 - Where things go. - In fact, he never did. 1154 01:03:44,603 --> 01:03:45,212 He would sit here and watch it. 1155 01:03:45,256 --> 01:03:46,431 I have no idea 1156 01:03:46,474 --> 01:03:47,345 who this woman is. It is today. 1157 01:03:47,388 --> 01:03:48,650 Are you a scorned woman? 1158 01:03:53,481 --> 01:03:54,439 All right, you guys ready to move 1159 01:03:54,482 --> 01:03:56,441 into a little bit of rehearsal? 1160 01:03:56,484 --> 01:03:58,269 You're gonna be taking off her shirt. 1161 01:03:58,312 --> 01:03:59,618 - Okay. - And from what I understand, 1162 01:03:59,661 --> 01:04:00,749 it's a pretty wide neck, 1163 01:04:00,793 --> 01:04:02,099 - Yeah. - so you shouldn't have 1164 01:04:02,142 --> 01:04:04,884 any issue just coming up and pulling it over- 1165 01:04:04,928 --> 01:04:06,668 - Mm-hmm. - Jennifer's head, yeah. 1166 01:04:06,712 --> 01:04:09,149 And then, as we discussed, you will take your bra off. 1167 01:04:09,193 --> 01:04:10,194 Mm-hmm. 1168 01:04:10,237 --> 01:04:11,673 - You know, you can- - Yeah. 1169 01:04:11,717 --> 01:04:12,979 position yourself on the edge of the bed here. 1170 01:04:13,023 --> 01:04:13,980 - Yep. - Right. 1171 01:04:14,024 --> 01:04:15,895 Maybe you could place Dan's hand 1172 01:04:15,939 --> 01:04:16,722 somewhere on- Yeah. 1173 01:04:16,765 --> 01:04:17,984 your upper inner thigh 1174 01:04:18,028 --> 01:04:19,333 on the left leg. So, like, maybe right here- 1175 01:04:19,377 --> 01:04:20,726 - There? - would be fine. 1176 01:04:20,769 --> 01:04:22,162 And then here. 1177 01:04:22,206 --> 01:04:23,120 Yeah. 1178 01:04:24,338 --> 01:04:26,253 Okay, move your head a little bit. 1179 01:04:26,297 --> 01:04:30,867 And you can cheat it so that your head is not so turned. 1180 01:04:30,910 --> 01:04:31,824 Yeah. 1181 01:04:31,868 --> 01:04:32,912 And then I'll rest it 1182 01:04:32,956 --> 01:04:34,044 right here. and I'll be like this. 1183 01:04:34,087 --> 01:04:35,349 - Great. - Mm-hmm. 1184 01:04:35,393 --> 01:04:36,524 Love to see you touching his head, 1185 01:04:36,568 --> 01:04:38,004 tugging on his hair a little. 1186 01:04:38,048 --> 01:04:38,918 Okay. 1187 01:04:40,354 --> 01:04:41,703 How does that feel for both of you? 1188 01:04:41,747 --> 01:04:42,748 - I'm fine. - Yeah. 1189 01:04:42,791 --> 01:04:43,575 Okay. 1190 01:04:43,618 --> 01:04:45,098 Okay, great. 1191 01:04:52,410 --> 01:04:56,196 On season one, we had a moment where there were 1192 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,330 some criticisms of our lead actor, James Franco, 1193 01:04:59,373 --> 01:05:01,375 for stuff that had happened not on our set 1194 01:05:01,419 --> 01:05:04,596 but had happened on indie films that he had worked on. 1195 01:05:06,598 --> 01:05:08,817 But nonetheless, I felt the need 1196 01:05:08,861 --> 01:05:10,950 to ask all the principal cast members, 1197 01:05:10,994 --> 01:05:12,952 "Did you have any problems on our set?" 1198 01:05:12,996 --> 01:05:14,954 Emily Meade rather bravely said, 1199 01:05:14,998 --> 01:05:16,564 "Things didn't go right on set. 1200 01:05:16,608 --> 01:05:18,262 One day, I'll tell you about it." 1201 01:05:21,439 --> 01:05:22,744 Whoa, baby. 1202 01:05:22,788 --> 01:05:25,138 I was playing a prostitute turned porn star. 1203 01:05:28,402 --> 01:05:29,621 I was 26. 1204 01:05:32,015 --> 01:05:34,060 And I was starting to realize how much I was having 1205 01:05:34,104 --> 01:05:37,934 to constantly dissociate to, like, show up to my job. 1206 01:05:39,022 --> 01:05:41,720 Oh, that's, yeah, oh, yeah. 1207 01:05:41,763 --> 01:05:45,245 There were circumstances where I wound up having to do 1208 01:05:45,289 --> 01:05:46,507 a very intimate sex scene 1209 01:05:46,551 --> 01:05:50,294 with a completely random background actor. 1210 01:05:51,512 --> 01:05:55,212 I was not willing to be on the show 1211 01:05:55,255 --> 01:05:56,778 with things the way they were, 1212 01:05:56,822 --> 01:06:00,434 wanting to protect the women involved in this show. 1213 01:06:00,478 --> 01:06:03,089 Emily basically said, "We can do this better," 1214 01:06:03,133 --> 01:06:04,612 and then it was our job to listen. 1215 01:06:04,656 --> 01:06:05,874 The best thing I could come up with was 1216 01:06:05,918 --> 01:06:08,486 that there should be a person who is there, 1217 01:06:08,529 --> 01:06:12,969 who their sole job is to facilitate, protect, 1218 01:06:13,012 --> 01:06:15,014 and just be there for sex scenes 1219 01:06:15,058 --> 01:06:16,798 like a stunt coordinator. 1220 01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:21,325 God. 1221 01:06:21,368 --> 01:06:22,979 There are entire departments of people 1222 01:06:23,022 --> 01:06:24,415 who are there to make sure nobody gets hurt 1223 01:06:24,458 --> 01:06:25,982 when we're simulating violence. 1224 01:06:28,114 --> 01:06:29,637 But we hadn't, to this point, hired somebody 1225 01:06:29,681 --> 01:06:32,292 whose sole area of expertise was, 1226 01:06:32,336 --> 01:06:34,294 "Let's make sure nobody gets, you know, 1227 01:06:34,338 --> 01:06:36,905 emotionally hurt or physically hurt, you know, 1228 01:06:36,949 --> 01:06:39,082 when we're simulating intimacy." 1229 01:06:42,085 --> 01:06:43,869 I'm there to make sure the actors are safe 1230 01:06:43,912 --> 01:06:46,437 but also to check in and make sure 1231 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,135 what is happening on set is consensual 1232 01:06:49,179 --> 01:06:51,311 and what is happening is what was agreed to. 1233 01:06:51,355 --> 01:06:53,966 I don't wanna disappoint anybody. 1234 01:06:55,141 --> 01:06:57,317 That was probably always the hardest part for me, 1235 01:06:58,666 --> 01:07:00,059 having to, like, look someone in the eyes, 1236 01:07:00,103 --> 01:07:02,627 a man specifically, and, like, disappoint them 1237 01:07:02,670 --> 01:07:04,977 about what I'm willing to do sexually. 1238 01:07:06,587 --> 01:07:08,285 She could go tell the director, like, 1239 01:07:08,328 --> 01:07:10,635 "Emily's feeling a little strange about this," 1240 01:07:10,678 --> 01:07:13,333 warn the director of that so they can roll their eyes 1241 01:07:13,377 --> 01:07:14,334 or have whatever private 1242 01:07:14,378 --> 01:07:15,161 reaction they want to, 1243 01:07:15,205 --> 01:07:16,336 and I don't have to see it 1244 01:07:16,380 --> 01:07:18,773 and feel insecure or embarrassed. 1245 01:07:18,817 --> 01:07:20,210 Let's go, sweetheart. 1246 01:07:21,124 --> 01:07:21,950 Are we good? 1247 01:07:23,387 --> 01:07:25,954 It was just the process of having that conversation, 1248 01:07:25,998 --> 01:07:27,260 and feeling like I had a choice, 1249 01:07:27,304 --> 01:07:29,393 and like I wasn't in a corner. 1250 01:07:29,436 --> 01:07:31,786 All right, first up is Lori and Andy. 1251 01:07:31,830 --> 01:07:33,092 "The Deuce" wound up being 1252 01:07:33,136 --> 01:07:35,051 the first network television show 1253 01:07:35,094 --> 01:07:36,617 to have an intimacy coordinator, 1254 01:07:36,661 --> 01:07:38,054 and then HBO wound up being 1255 01:07:38,097 --> 01:07:39,229 the first network to have 1256 01:07:39,272 --> 01:07:42,058 network-wide intimacy coordinators used. 1257 01:07:43,407 --> 01:07:44,364 There are certain things 1258 01:07:44,582 --> 01:07:46,062 that might have been acceptable 1259 01:07:47,150 --> 01:07:49,935 five years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago 1260 01:07:49,978 --> 01:07:52,198 that are not acceptable now. 1261 01:07:52,242 --> 01:07:54,287 And I think it took Time's Up. 1262 01:07:54,331 --> 01:07:55,897 It took Me Too. 1263 01:07:55,941 --> 01:08:00,206 It took this entire shift for people to look 1264 01:08:00,250 --> 01:08:03,905 at scenes like this and say, "We can do better." 1265 01:08:05,298 --> 01:08:06,386 You're gonna listen to me. 1266 01:08:06,430 --> 01:08:07,387 Wait, hey, Dorothy. 1267 01:08:07,431 --> 01:08:09,868 whether you like it or not. 1268 01:08:11,826 --> 01:08:15,482 There's clearly a deeply entrenched 1269 01:08:15,526 --> 01:08:18,398 terror of male privilege 1270 01:08:18,442 --> 01:08:20,444 and power being taken away. 1271 01:08:21,923 --> 01:08:24,100 I'm not gonna be stopped by three dumb-witted broads. 1272 01:08:26,450 --> 01:08:27,625 I wanted to show that you could 1273 01:08:27,668 --> 01:08:29,061 cut off the head of power 1274 01:08:29,105 --> 01:08:31,846 instead of biting at ankles, that, if everybody is 1275 01:08:31,890 --> 01:08:34,893 always kind of complaining about the same thing, 1276 01:08:36,068 --> 01:08:38,114 maybe we can do something about it. 1277 01:08:46,470 --> 01:08:49,125 I do feel optimistic, 1278 01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:53,477 but Hollywood is definitely sexist, 1279 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,785 definitely racist place, 1280 01:08:57,829 --> 01:09:00,832 and it's going to take a lot 1281 01:09:00,875 --> 01:09:05,880 to dismantle those systems. 1282 01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:08,796 The Me Too movement ushered in a greater level 1283 01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,800 of the magnifying glass. 1284 01:09:12,844 --> 01:09:15,629 That long-held patriarchal power 1285 01:09:15,673 --> 01:09:17,196 in Hollywood was rendered 1286 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,981 vulnerable really for the very first time 1287 01:09:20,025 --> 01:09:21,635 in a very real way. 1288 01:09:21,679 --> 01:09:24,290 Harvey Weinstein surrendering to police- 1289 01:09:24,334 --> 01:09:25,248 - Leslie Moonves's- - on sex crime charges. 1290 01:09:25,291 --> 01:09:27,293 career at CBS came to an end 1291 01:09:27,337 --> 01:09:28,468 in September- Chief Roy Price has 1292 01:09:28,512 --> 01:09:29,643 been suspended after multiple women- 1293 01:09:29,687 --> 01:09:30,862 - in the wake of- - came forward. 1294 01:09:30,905 --> 01:09:32,342 sexual harassment accusations from- 1295 01:09:32,385 --> 01:09:34,518 James Franco snubbed by the Oscars in the wake- 1296 01:09:34,561 --> 01:09:36,172 The Screen Actors Guild found actor Kip Pardue 1297 01:09:37,260 --> 01:09:39,697 guilty of serious misconduct. 1298 01:09:43,570 --> 01:09:47,792 I think that many films have women in peril. 1299 01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:52,318 Some Prince Charming has to come and save us, 1300 01:09:53,798 --> 01:09:57,715 and we come to believe that we innately don't have 1301 01:09:57,758 --> 01:10:01,284 the power to save ourselves, but we do. 1302 01:10:03,982 --> 01:10:06,158 Women are finally finding a voice. 1303 01:10:22,827 --> 01:10:26,613 Before doing "Vida," I hadn't experienced too much 1304 01:10:26,657 --> 01:10:29,355 in the roles of getting to play an American like me, 1305 01:10:29,399 --> 01:10:31,183 a Latina like me. 1306 01:10:33,533 --> 01:10:38,408 It is by design that we are seeing a woman pursue 1307 01:10:39,887 --> 01:10:43,456 her sexuality and pleasure in a very unapologetic fashion. 1308 01:10:44,979 --> 01:10:47,025 We haven't gotten a chance to, us, like, create 1309 01:10:47,068 --> 01:10:48,809 complicated images of ourselves, 1310 01:10:48,853 --> 01:10:52,160 and these girls I created were, shitty, messy. 1311 01:10:52,204 --> 01:10:54,554 They made really bad decisions. 1312 01:10:57,296 --> 01:10:58,732 Dominant culture gets to tell 1313 01:10:58,776 --> 01:11:00,386 all that, you know, all the time. 1314 01:11:01,344 --> 01:11:02,910 When do we get to say it? 1315 01:11:07,132 --> 01:11:10,266 The sex scenes started in the writer's room. 1316 01:11:10,309 --> 01:11:13,269 These girls, they knew exactly how to get off, 1317 01:11:13,312 --> 01:11:14,487 what they wanted. 1318 01:11:20,319 --> 01:11:21,189 It progressed the story. 1319 01:11:21,233 --> 01:11:22,756 It wasn't just gratuitous. 1320 01:11:24,541 --> 01:11:28,153 Tanya brought me into the editing room just to make sure 1321 01:11:28,196 --> 01:11:31,069 I was completely comfortable with the way 1322 01:11:31,112 --> 01:11:34,768 that certain things were being shot. 1323 01:11:34,812 --> 01:11:37,162 You know, "Is this all right?" 1324 01:11:37,205 --> 01:11:38,685 Okay? 1325 01:11:38,729 --> 01:11:40,252 It's nice to have somebody checking in on you 1326 01:11:40,296 --> 01:11:41,601 even after the fact. 1327 01:11:47,999 --> 01:11:50,393 "The Sex Lives of College Girls" is 1328 01:11:50,436 --> 01:11:53,744 about freshmen college suitemates 1329 01:11:53,787 --> 01:11:56,007 who are navigating their sexuality. 1330 01:11:57,182 --> 01:11:58,662 So, how does this work? 1331 01:12:00,185 --> 01:12:02,318 Do we just take our clothes off and go inside? 1332 01:12:02,361 --> 01:12:04,363 Fuck it, I'm going in. 1333 01:12:04,407 --> 01:12:05,799 I have a disability. 1334 01:12:05,843 --> 01:12:09,020 My character, clearly, will also have a disability, 1335 01:12:09,063 --> 01:12:12,371 but who my character is is not predicated on the fact 1336 01:12:12,415 --> 01:12:13,851 that I'm a disabled woman. 1337 01:12:13,894 --> 01:12:15,592 Honey, I pull. 1338 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:17,594 Hey. 1339 01:12:17,637 --> 01:12:19,726 It's still about my sexuality. 1340 01:12:19,770 --> 01:12:22,990 Do any of you know where a girl named Sarah is? 1341 01:12:23,034 --> 01:12:23,774 No. 1342 01:12:23,817 --> 01:12:24,601 Sorry. 1343 01:12:24,644 --> 01:12:26,124 I don't. 1344 01:12:26,167 --> 01:12:30,476 It's the most refreshing thing to have a character, 1345 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:34,654 especially a wheelchair user, be sexy, be sex positive, 1346 01:12:34,698 --> 01:12:38,484 be sexual, to be seen as desired and loved 1347 01:12:38,528 --> 01:12:41,095 because we deserve it, too. 1348 01:12:44,229 --> 01:12:47,798 There was a time in my life when I felt free 1349 01:12:52,585 --> 01:12:54,021 Ow. 1350 01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:56,067 Ah, Jesus. 1351 01:12:57,590 --> 01:13:00,898 I always knew that it would be noisy to make a show 1352 01:13:00,941 --> 01:13:04,684 about female desire and sexuality, 1353 01:13:04,728 --> 01:13:08,384 about a woman who wants sex, 1354 01:13:08,427 --> 01:13:09,994 who admits she's had sex, 1355 01:13:10,037 --> 01:13:13,954 that she wants to have more of it, and not punishing her 1356 01:13:13,998 --> 01:13:18,219 for her desire is in itself a revolutionary act. 1357 01:13:18,263 --> 01:13:20,483 When you make that woman a mother, 1358 01:13:20,526 --> 01:13:25,531 it is just charging straight into these opinions in society 1359 01:13:26,663 --> 01:13:29,753 that martyrdom is the ideal for mothers. 1360 01:13:29,796 --> 01:13:31,145 ♪ Each morning 1361 01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:32,233 Morning, mommy. 1362 01:13:33,713 --> 01:13:36,499 I also felt like we cannot tell this whole story 1363 01:13:36,542 --> 01:13:39,893 and just not even have one shot of a penis. 1364 01:13:44,071 --> 01:13:47,466 We put it in the cut, and the Netflix executives were 1365 01:13:47,510 --> 01:13:50,121 very nervous about it and asked us 1366 01:13:50,164 --> 01:13:51,731 to consider taking it out. 1367 01:13:53,167 --> 01:13:56,170 They were concerned that it would be off-putting to women. 1368 01:13:56,214 --> 01:13:58,216 Not heterosexual women. 1369 01:14:00,566 --> 01:14:02,438 I think everything I've been doing has been an attempt 1370 01:14:02,481 --> 01:14:04,918 to investigate the male gaze, 1371 01:14:04,962 --> 01:14:06,833 all these ways in which the camera has kind of stood 1372 01:14:06,877 --> 01:14:10,489 in for an assumed masculine protagonist 1373 01:14:10,533 --> 01:14:13,492 and to to kind of reset it, saying, you know, 1374 01:14:13,536 --> 01:14:14,319 "I'm the subject. 1375 01:14:14,362 --> 01:14:15,189 You're the object." 1376 01:14:17,322 --> 01:14:19,803 Consent doesn't have to be this kind of, 1377 01:14:20,151 --> 01:14:21,413 like, mushy thing 1378 01:14:21,457 --> 01:14:24,590 that's, like, shrouded in questions about 1379 01:14:24,634 --> 01:14:25,983 shame and gender. 1380 01:14:30,988 --> 01:14:32,903 When I'm filming, I'm always wanting to, like, put 1381 01:14:32,946 --> 01:14:36,080 the camera into the place of the character's desire. 1382 01:14:36,123 --> 01:14:38,474 So, it's like, instead of taking the camera 1383 01:14:38,517 --> 01:14:40,214 up here or out here, I'm always, 1384 01:14:40,258 --> 01:14:41,607 like, literally imagining 1385 01:14:41,651 --> 01:14:44,088 the camera moving down into, like, the gut. 1386 01:14:48,353 --> 01:14:51,182 Joey really opened up in me my sensitivity 1387 01:14:51,225 --> 01:14:53,314 as a human being translated 1388 01:14:53,358 --> 01:14:56,100 into what I could bring to the camera. 1389 01:15:00,452 --> 01:15:02,410 The camera's approach is honoring the 1390 01:15:02,454 --> 01:15:03,586 space for the actors. 1391 01:15:05,109 --> 01:15:08,329 Joey would say that I had a mussy and would say, 1392 01:15:08,373 --> 01:15:10,549 "Jimmy, shoot from your mussy," 1393 01:15:10,593 --> 01:15:13,334 'cause I don't think that a man only has a male gaze, 1394 01:15:13,378 --> 01:15:15,423 or a woman would only have a female gaze. 1395 01:15:19,210 --> 01:15:20,603 I wanted to be naked 1396 01:15:20,646 --> 01:15:22,039 because, first of all, that had never been done. 1397 01:15:22,082 --> 01:15:23,562 All right. 1398 01:15:23,606 --> 01:15:26,130 And the second reason was that I wanted to show 1399 01:15:26,173 --> 01:15:29,829 this relationship and these two human beings are 1400 01:15:29,873 --> 01:15:31,831 just like, they have conversations 1401 01:15:31,875 --> 01:15:34,138 after people take showers, and they're naked. 1402 01:15:37,054 --> 01:15:39,317 We can't afford any more bills. 1403 01:15:40,623 --> 01:15:42,494 I can't believe I have to say this. 1404 01:15:42,538 --> 01:15:44,888 Trans people actually have sex. 1405 01:15:44,931 --> 01:15:48,544 We have sex with other people. 1406 01:15:48,587 --> 01:15:49,501 Isn't that weird? 1407 01:15:49,545 --> 01:15:51,634 I know, strange, but it's true. 1408 01:15:53,897 --> 01:15:56,334 Everybody is doing this thing called love. 1409 01:16:01,078 --> 01:16:04,124 I'm really interested in pursuing 1410 01:16:04,168 --> 01:16:07,388 the notion of female desire, 1411 01:16:12,002 --> 01:16:16,310 be it ambition, or sex, 1412 01:16:16,354 --> 01:16:21,359 or romance with the idea that there is a subjectivity 1413 01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:24,231 and often a voraciousness 1414 01:16:25,406 --> 01:16:27,800 that comes from a female perspective. 1415 01:16:37,462 --> 01:16:39,725 In terms of making films, the most important thing is 1416 01:16:39,769 --> 01:16:42,249 women have been doing this forever, you know, 1417 01:16:42,293 --> 01:16:43,599 that we're not the first. 1418 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,523 Women were putting the camera in a place of empathy, 1419 01:16:57,961 --> 01:17:01,921 yearning, longing, wanting. 1420 01:17:06,143 --> 01:17:08,101 There is a rediscovery 1421 01:17:08,145 --> 01:17:09,276 of lost Black films 1422 01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,628 that celebrate romance and intimacy. 1423 01:17:13,716 --> 01:17:16,806 These films have always existed. 1424 01:17:28,992 --> 01:17:30,341 It's changing. 1425 01:17:31,168 --> 01:17:32,343 You can feel it. 1426 01:17:32,386 --> 01:17:33,692 You can feel it in the writer's rooms. 1427 01:17:33,736 --> 01:17:36,129 You can feel it talking to producers. 1428 01:17:36,173 --> 01:17:38,088 When I'm on the set of "Grace and Frankie," 1429 01:17:38,131 --> 01:17:40,351 half the people there are women. 1430 01:17:40,394 --> 01:17:43,659 Trust me, when I started out in '58, '59, 1431 01:17:43,702 --> 01:17:45,051 there wasn't a woman, 1432 01:17:45,095 --> 01:17:48,315 except maybe the script supervisor, on the set. 1433 01:17:48,359 --> 01:17:51,188 We're making vibrators for women with arthritis. 1434 01:17:51,231 --> 01:17:53,059 Yes, vibrators. 1435 01:17:53,103 --> 01:17:55,061 We're making things for people like us 1436 01:17:55,105 --> 01:17:57,803 because we are sick and tired of being dismissed 1437 01:17:57,847 --> 01:17:59,152 by people like you. 1438 01:17:59,196 --> 01:18:00,066 Mic drop. 1439 01:18:00,893 --> 01:18:02,808 Okay, come on in. 1440 01:18:05,550 --> 01:18:07,160 I'm hoping that there will be 1441 01:18:07,204 --> 01:18:10,686 a more seismic shift happening more rapidly now. 1442 01:18:10,729 --> 01:18:11,817 Hey. 1443 01:18:12,557 --> 01:18:13,950 Yeah, sure. 1444 01:18:13,993 --> 01:18:15,516 I think we need more- 1445 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,910 You'll see more women green light a series, 1446 01:18:20,826 --> 01:18:22,306 to green light a movie, 1447 01:18:22,349 --> 01:18:24,438 and when you see that, 1448 01:18:24,482 --> 01:18:28,355 you'll see more movies that empower women. 1449 01:18:37,974 --> 01:18:39,366 Okay, and cut. 1450 01:18:40,237 --> 01:18:42,630 Actresses, for the first time 1451 01:18:42,674 --> 01:18:46,243 since I would say the 30s, have power. 1452 01:18:48,114 --> 01:18:51,727 Men want to be looking at women 1453 01:18:51,770 --> 01:18:53,859 in the way that you look at a protagonist in a movie, 1454 01:18:53,903 --> 01:18:55,252 which is as yourself. 1455 01:18:57,820 --> 01:18:59,299 And for some reason, 1456 01:18:59,343 --> 01:19:01,693 I think men weren't making that kind of transference. 1457 01:19:02,563 --> 01:19:04,652 Now, it's happening. 1458 01:19:04,696 --> 01:19:09,614 The beauty of film, and television, and media is 1459 01:19:09,657 --> 01:19:13,749 that we have the ability to reach people's living rooms. 1460 01:19:13,792 --> 01:19:17,274 And when you see somebody that maybe doesn't look like you, 1461 01:19:17,317 --> 01:19:19,929 but emotionally, you see yourself 1462 01:19:20,190 --> 01:19:21,800 reflected in that way, 1463 01:19:21,844 --> 01:19:26,762 all of a sudden, that person becomes more familiar to you. 1464 01:19:29,677 --> 01:19:33,377 We have consumed, for a very long time, ourselves 1465 01:19:35,205 --> 01:19:37,381 outside of our own lens 1466 01:19:37,424 --> 01:19:41,777 that we are still figuring out what that means. 1467 01:19:43,256 --> 01:19:44,475 I think Hollywood is 1468 01:19:44,518 --> 01:19:46,912 no longer just a place of entertainment. 1469 01:19:46,956 --> 01:19:49,915 I think that the power that Hollywood holds is 1470 01:19:49,959 --> 01:19:54,398 so great that it should put its power to good use, 1471 01:19:54,441 --> 01:19:56,400 which is representation. 1472 01:20:01,884 --> 01:20:04,103 Hey, check this one out. 1473 01:20:04,147 --> 01:20:08,107 And I think nudity and sex, it's a really beautiful way 1474 01:20:08,151 --> 01:20:10,327 to show things without telling them 1475 01:20:10,370 --> 01:20:13,243 and is a vital part of storytelling. 1476 01:20:13,286 --> 01:20:15,941 And I actually feel better doing it 1477 01:20:15,985 --> 01:20:17,900 with an intimacy coordinator now. 1478 01:20:20,337 --> 01:20:22,643 I have done something and been involved in something 1479 01:20:22,687 --> 01:20:26,256 that is important and I hope permanent in this industry, 1480 01:20:26,299 --> 01:20:29,433 and, yeah, it's pretty surreal. 1481 01:20:29,476 --> 01:20:32,697 It's really, it feels very good. 1482 01:20:40,096 --> 01:20:41,140 ♪ I'm feeling myself 1483 01:20:41,184 --> 01:20:42,968 ♪ I'm feeling myself 1484 01:20:43,012 --> 01:20:44,230 ♪ Can't even lie 1485 01:20:44,274 --> 01:20:45,928 ♪ I'm not that thing on the shelf ♪ 1486 01:20:45,971 --> 01:20:47,103 ♪ I'm feeling myself 1487 01:20:47,146 --> 01:20:48,756 ♪ I'm feeling myself 1488 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:53,761 ♪ 'Cause I'm doing it better than anyone else ♪ 1489 01:20:58,679 --> 01:21:01,030 We're just getting started. 1490 01:21:01,073 --> 01:21:02,858 All right, fellas. 1491 01:21:02,901 --> 01:21:04,903 Getting the cameras into the hands of the people 1492 01:21:04,947 --> 01:21:07,384 who want them and deserve them. 1493 01:21:08,341 --> 01:21:10,604 Fuck yeah, mom. 1494 01:21:12,302 --> 01:21:14,521 Women don't stay silent forever. 1495 01:21:14,565 --> 01:21:17,873 Some women will see some of these amazing pieces of work 1496 01:21:17,916 --> 01:21:20,832 by women and start to kind of center themselves 1497 01:21:20,876 --> 01:21:22,703 in their lives, you know? 1498 01:21:22,747 --> 01:21:25,358 But it's not filmmaking's job to do it. 1499 01:21:25,402 --> 01:21:27,795 It's the world's job to center female pleasure. 1500 01:21:27,839 --> 01:21:30,363 It's the world's job to understand consent. 1501 01:21:30,407 --> 01:21:33,062 You know, it's not female filmmakers' job to teach it. 1502 01:21:35,412 --> 01:21:36,892 We got enough to do. 1503 01:21:36,935 --> 01:21:38,023 ♪ I'm feeling myself 1504 01:21:38,067 --> 01:21:39,895 ♪ I'm feeling myself 1505 01:21:39,938 --> 01:21:41,113 ♪ Can't even lie 1506 01:21:41,157 --> 01:21:42,941 ♪ I'm not that thing on the shelf ♪ 1507 01:21:42,985 --> 01:21:44,029 ♪ I'm feeling myself 1508 01:21:44,073 --> 01:21:45,639 ♪ I'm feeling myself 1509 01:21:45,683 --> 01:21:49,121 ♪ 'Cause I'm doing it better than anyone else ♪ 1510 01:21:49,165 --> 01:21:50,035 ♪ Feeling myself 1511 01:21:50,079 --> 01:21:51,994 ♪ I'm feeling myself 1512 01:21:52,037 --> 01:21:53,256 ♪ Can't even lie 1513 01:21:53,299 --> 01:21:55,084 ♪ I'm not that thing on the shelf ♪ 1514 01:21:55,127 --> 01:21:56,128 ♪ I'm feeling myself 1515 01:21:56,172 --> 01:21:57,782 ♪ I'm feeling myself 1516 01:21:57,825 --> 01:22:02,743 ♪ 'Cause I'm doing it better than anyone else ♪ 1517 01:22:03,483 --> 01:22:06,095 ♪ Feeling myself 1518 01:22:06,138 --> 01:22:09,446 ♪ I'm feeling myself 1519 01:22:09,489 --> 01:22:12,449 ♪ I'm feeling myself 1520 01:22:12,492 --> 01:22:17,497 ♪ I'm feeling myself 107860

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