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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,636 --> 00:00:08,487 (anticipatory music) 2 00:00:08,487 --> 00:00:11,187 - [Narrator] It's a multinational of a particular kind, 3 00:00:11,187 --> 00:00:13,864 one you all know, some of you may even visit it. 4 00:00:13,864 --> 00:00:15,986 It's present across the globe. 5 00:00:15,986 --> 00:00:18,736 And on the corner of your street. 6 00:00:19,971 --> 00:00:21,638 The Catholic Church. 7 00:00:24,431 --> 00:00:26,014 With its hierarchy, 8 00:00:29,262 --> 00:00:30,679 its communication 9 00:00:31,717 --> 00:00:33,967 and its very darkest secret 10 00:00:34,997 --> 00:00:35,914 pedophilia. 11 00:00:37,522 --> 00:00:40,269 In Australia, 7% of priests are thought to have 12 00:00:40,269 --> 00:00:45,112 sexually abused minors, 4% in the United States. 13 00:00:45,112 --> 00:00:48,306 We discovered that clergymen, found guilty of pedophilia, 14 00:00:48,306 --> 00:00:52,389 are still active, often in contact with children. 15 00:00:55,130 --> 00:00:57,487 Thanks to internal documents, we'll reveal how 16 00:00:57,487 --> 00:00:59,819 Church leaders protect priests accused 17 00:00:59,819 --> 00:01:01,986 of sexually abusing minors 18 00:01:04,406 --> 00:01:08,574 by sending them from country to country, notably in Africa. 19 00:01:12,425 --> 00:01:15,126 Our investigation into these international exiles 20 00:01:15,126 --> 00:01:16,709 took us to Cameroon 21 00:01:18,999 --> 00:01:19,999 to Argentina 22 00:01:22,209 --> 00:01:24,792 to the United States, to France 23 00:01:25,712 --> 00:01:26,795 and to Italy. 24 00:01:28,045 --> 00:01:31,899 During our travels, we established this unprecedented map 25 00:01:31,899 --> 00:01:34,231 that regarding the transfers of priests involved in 26 00:01:34,231 --> 00:01:35,898 cases of pedophilia. 27 00:01:46,188 --> 00:01:48,601 - [Narrator] And the victims number tens of thousands, 28 00:01:48,601 --> 00:01:52,434 marked with scars for the rest of their lives. 29 00:01:54,524 --> 00:01:56,600 Our investigations would lead us all the way to 30 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,166 Pope Francis. 31 00:01:58,166 --> 00:02:01,085 We'll reveal how, when he was Archbishop of Buenos-Aires, 32 00:02:01,085 --> 00:02:05,251 he tried to influence the Argentine Justice Department. 33 00:02:15,221 --> 00:02:17,593 We investigated the mysteries of the Church where, 34 00:02:17,593 --> 00:02:20,926 on the altar of truth, God's law seems to prevail 35 00:02:20,926 --> 00:02:22,343 over that of men. 36 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,341 Our inquiry into the international transfers of priests 37 00:02:33,341 --> 00:02:38,331 accused of pedophilia begins in the United States. 38 00:02:38,331 --> 00:02:41,339 We're in Chicago, in the shadow of this cathedral, 39 00:02:41,339 --> 00:02:44,213 to witness a very unique kind of protest. 40 00:02:44,213 --> 00:02:47,958 - [Group] Expose the truth, protect the children. 41 00:02:47,958 --> 00:02:51,208 Expose the truth, protect the children. 42 00:02:52,387 --> 00:02:56,553 - [Narrator] All are victims of pedophile priests. 43 00:02:59,602 --> 00:03:01,773 In their hands, portraits of them as children 44 00:03:01,773 --> 00:03:03,606 when they were abused. 45 00:03:09,118 --> 00:03:12,920 In the US, 16,000 people have already lodged complaints 46 00:03:12,920 --> 00:03:16,420 for sexual abuse against Catholic priests. 47 00:03:20,459 --> 00:03:23,205 These victims have joined forces for the annual conference 48 00:03:23,205 --> 00:03:24,585 of their support group, 49 00:03:24,585 --> 00:03:28,752 SNAP: Survivor Network of those Abused by Priests. 50 00:03:32,932 --> 00:03:36,432 - Hello everybody, great to see you again. 51 00:03:37,766 --> 00:03:39,642 And I think, it looks like we've got a bigger group than 52 00:03:39,642 --> 00:03:42,311 last year, which is even better news. 53 00:03:42,311 --> 00:03:46,959 So, how many of you are here for the first time? 54 00:03:46,959 --> 00:03:50,083 (cheering) 55 00:03:50,083 --> 00:03:52,000 It looks like 40%. 56 00:03:53,375 --> 00:03:56,787 Remember, that all of us here are survivors of sexual 57 00:03:56,787 --> 00:03:59,668 assaults and betrayals during our youth. 58 00:03:59,668 --> 00:04:02,004 So if you are looking for an opportunity to share your 59 00:04:02,004 --> 00:04:06,171 experience with people who truly get it, this is the place. 60 00:04:08,972 --> 00:04:10,612 - [Narrator] Recently, the organization has seen abuse 61 00:04:10,612 --> 00:04:13,913 victims from all over the world join its ranks. 62 00:04:13,913 --> 00:04:16,032 It has become the Internationale of those abused 63 00:04:16,032 --> 00:04:17,199 by the Church. 64 00:04:33,176 --> 00:04:36,179 - Where are you from? Chile. - Santiago, Chile. 65 00:04:36,179 --> 00:04:38,263 - I'm from Germany, from Berlin. 66 00:04:38,263 --> 00:04:42,439 - I was sexually abused in Mexico when I was 14 years old. 67 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:44,178 - I'm actually from the Philippines. 68 00:04:44,178 --> 00:04:48,178 I was abused by just one for three, three years! 69 00:04:50,545 --> 00:04:52,099 I was 15 years old. 70 00:04:52,099 --> 00:04:56,030 - I was abused as a teen for a long period of time. 71 00:04:56,030 --> 00:04:58,631 It was with an oblique priest, is name was Jack McCan, 72 00:04:58,631 --> 00:05:00,381 in Vancouver, Canada. 73 00:05:01,755 --> 00:05:06,335 - [Narrator] Accounts from over 50 countries. 74 00:05:06,335 --> 00:05:08,461 At the end of the conference, we talk to one of 75 00:05:08,461 --> 00:05:12,012 the activists, Anne Barett Doyle. 76 00:05:12,012 --> 00:05:15,257 Thanks to reports from victims, SNAP is the only group 77 00:05:15,257 --> 00:05:18,141 to have been able to establish a list of priests worldwide 78 00:05:18,141 --> 00:05:21,677 allegedly involved in pedophilia cases. 79 00:05:21,677 --> 00:05:24,869 - We only include those priests who have been accused of 80 00:05:24,869 --> 00:05:29,600 child sexual abuses in a credible public document. 81 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,639 It was to be either a court document that's publicly 82 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:35,972 accessible, or a mainstream news outlet. 83 00:05:37,315 --> 00:05:41,643 - [Narrator] She began her work 14 years ago. 84 00:05:41,643 --> 00:05:44,774 In the States, these activists publish the names and photos 85 00:05:44,774 --> 00:05:48,532 of accused priests on the Internet, to try to ensure they 86 00:05:48,532 --> 00:05:52,199 never come into contact with children again. 87 00:05:52,199 --> 00:05:56,239 - This is just the letter A, and it just keeps going. 88 00:05:56,239 --> 00:05:58,243 - How many names at the end, so far? 89 00:05:58,243 --> 00:06:02,410 - So, all in the entire database we have 4,400 names. 90 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,151 - Do you have any French names in the list? 91 00:06:06,151 --> 00:06:08,164 - We do have several. 92 00:06:08,164 --> 00:06:12,652 So Father Rivoire is a troubling case because he abused 93 00:06:12,652 --> 00:06:16,819 this young boy and Marius, an Inuit boy, did report 94 00:06:18,942 --> 00:06:23,683 the abuse eventually within statute, but Rivoire 95 00:06:23,683 --> 00:06:25,005 was fled. 96 00:06:25,005 --> 00:06:29,742 In 1993 it somehow spirited him back to France were 97 00:06:29,742 --> 00:06:32,076 he lives safely now. 98 00:06:32,076 --> 00:06:33,954 That's not the case of his victim who took his 99 00:06:33,954 --> 00:06:36,371 own life in December of 2012. 100 00:06:38,313 --> 00:06:40,734 - [Narrator] To avoid justice, one French priest accused 101 00:06:40,734 --> 00:06:43,228 of the sexual abuse of minors is thought to have 102 00:06:43,228 --> 00:06:46,887 fled Canada and be in hiding in France. 103 00:06:46,887 --> 00:06:49,554 The story barely seems credible. 104 00:06:51,631 --> 00:06:53,290 We contacted the sister of one of 105 00:06:53,290 --> 00:06:55,790 the priest's presumed victims. 106 00:06:57,372 --> 00:07:00,347 Theresie Tungalik speaks to us from northern Canada, 107 00:07:00,347 --> 00:07:02,055 deep in Inuit territory. 108 00:07:02,055 --> 00:07:04,289 Her brother Marius Tungalik committed suicide 109 00:07:04,289 --> 00:07:05,625 five years ago. 110 00:07:05,625 --> 00:07:08,377 He had filed a complaint against the French priest. 111 00:07:08,377 --> 00:07:10,237 She has sent us some old photos of her and 112 00:07:10,237 --> 00:07:12,729 her kid brother and one of Father Rivoire. 113 00:07:12,729 --> 00:07:15,729 - [Man] How old would be Marius today? 114 00:07:15,729 --> 00:07:17,646 - He would be 58 today. 115 00:07:19,058 --> 00:07:22,705 - [Man] Do you think the what happened to him 116 00:07:22,705 --> 00:07:26,287 when he was a child was responsible of that, 117 00:07:26,287 --> 00:07:28,120 why he decided to die? 118 00:07:29,627 --> 00:07:31,544 - Of course, of course. 119 00:07:33,855 --> 00:07:38,022 Marius never left him, even when he became an outlaw. 120 00:07:40,264 --> 00:07:44,431 He could not sleep in the dark, he was still afraid. 121 00:07:47,644 --> 00:07:51,113 - [Man] Do you think Marius was the only victim 122 00:07:51,113 --> 00:07:52,941 of mister Rivoire? 123 00:07:52,941 --> 00:07:55,358 - No, I know someone, people. 124 00:07:58,262 --> 00:08:01,345 He has ruined so many people's lives. 125 00:08:02,553 --> 00:08:06,150 This man doesn't deserve to be free. 126 00:08:06,150 --> 00:08:08,393 If we can get Rivoire 127 00:08:08,393 --> 00:08:12,560 behind bars on Canadian soil, it will be a message to 128 00:08:13,752 --> 00:08:17,419 the other priests who take them and get away 129 00:08:18,307 --> 00:08:20,140 with things like this. 130 00:08:22,599 --> 00:08:24,298 - [Narrator] We get our hands on the warrant issued to 131 00:08:24,298 --> 00:08:28,298 the Canadian police for Father Rivoire's arrest. 132 00:08:29,219 --> 00:08:32,802 They have been after the priest since 1998. 133 00:08:34,910 --> 00:08:37,218 On it, we discover the name of Marius, 134 00:08:37,218 --> 00:08:39,210 but also two other boys, made anonymous by 135 00:08:39,210 --> 00:08:41,542 the police with black lines. 136 00:08:42,958 --> 00:08:47,490 A girl of 14 is also among the alleged victims. 137 00:08:47,490 --> 00:08:52,477 In all, the priest is thought to have abused four children 138 00:08:52,477 --> 00:08:55,066 Finally, in the top left-hand corner, a vital piece 139 00:08:55,066 --> 00:08:57,939 of information, the name of the town where the priest 140 00:08:57,939 --> 00:09:02,234 is believed to be hiding, Goult in France, a small town 141 00:09:02,234 --> 00:09:04,868 in the Vaucluse where there's a monastery belonging 142 00:09:04,868 --> 00:09:06,285 to his community. 143 00:09:07,692 --> 00:09:10,645 So we catch the train to Strasbourg. 144 00:09:10,645 --> 00:09:13,088 That's right, because in the meantime, we've got hold 145 00:09:13,088 --> 00:09:15,721 of some internal documents from his community, 146 00:09:15,721 --> 00:09:19,888 Father Rivoire has been transferred several times. 147 00:09:21,471 --> 00:09:24,100 After Arviat in Canada, he didn't stay in Goult, 148 00:09:24,100 --> 00:09:26,173 as presumed by the Canadian police. 149 00:09:26,173 --> 00:09:28,839 He apparently went next to Thurins near Lyon. 150 00:09:28,839 --> 00:09:32,006 And that's where we lost track of him. 151 00:09:33,617 --> 00:09:36,542 But after several months of inquiries, during a phone call, 152 00:09:36,542 --> 00:09:39,125 a priest from a priory where Father Rivoire had stayed, 153 00:09:39,125 --> 00:09:41,792 unwittingly gives us a new lead. 154 00:09:54,055 --> 00:09:56,195 - [Narrator] The priest, wanted by the Canadian police 155 00:09:56,195 --> 00:09:59,103 for 19 years for sexually abusing four children, 156 00:09:59,103 --> 00:10:01,266 seemingly lives here, in Strasbourg, 157 00:10:01,266 --> 00:10:03,766 among his religious community. 158 00:10:05,768 --> 00:10:09,518 From now on, we'll film with a hidden camera. 159 00:10:20,982 --> 00:10:24,399 - [Narrator] Our information was correct. 160 00:10:32,029 --> 00:10:36,196 - [Narrator] The priest is here at the end of the corridor. 161 00:11:31,283 --> 00:11:33,518 - [Narrator] We show him the photo of the young Inuit, 162 00:11:33,518 --> 00:11:34,851 Marius Tungalik. 163 00:12:31,590 --> 00:12:33,594 - [Narrator] How can a priest accused of the sexual abuse 164 00:12:33,594 --> 00:12:36,798 of minors change countries and homes and stay out of 165 00:12:36,798 --> 00:12:39,547 the clutches of the police and justice for almost 166 00:12:39,547 --> 00:12:42,630 20 years, and is it an isolated case? 167 00:12:46,294 --> 00:12:49,779 One man may have an explanation. 168 00:12:49,779 --> 00:12:51,939 Back in the United States, we've arranged to meet 169 00:12:51,939 --> 00:12:54,017 a former American priest. 170 00:12:54,017 --> 00:12:57,990 Patrick Wall, since the 1990s, he has been a close-up 171 00:12:57,990 --> 00:13:00,407 witness of pedophile scandal. 172 00:13:02,166 --> 00:13:06,980 - Joining the monastery as a very idealistic 20-year-old, 173 00:13:06,980 --> 00:13:10,098 and though I was going to be a monk, a priest, 174 00:13:10,098 --> 00:13:12,646 and unfortunately, it didn't work out that way because 175 00:13:12,646 --> 00:13:16,977 so many sex abuses came forward, that I ended up actually 176 00:13:16,977 --> 00:13:21,966 being ordained early to go work on and follow sex abusers 177 00:13:21,966 --> 00:13:23,524 who were being withdrawn. 178 00:13:23,524 --> 00:13:26,894 And at that point, at the age of 32, I had to make 179 00:13:26,894 --> 00:13:28,599 a moral decision, 180 00:13:28,599 --> 00:13:31,323 Am I going to support this institution? 181 00:13:31,323 --> 00:13:36,003 Am I part of this? Or do I have to find a different path? 182 00:13:36,003 --> 00:13:39,134 And that's why I chose to take a different path, 183 00:13:39,134 --> 00:13:40,634 to help survivors. 184 00:13:41,558 --> 00:13:43,339 - [Narrator] Since then, Patrick Wall has become 185 00:13:43,339 --> 00:13:46,344 a whistle-blower, an expert called on to testify 186 00:13:46,344 --> 00:13:51,240 in over 2,000 cases of priests accused of sexual abuse. 187 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,836 According to him, the Catholic Church has developed 188 00:13:53,836 --> 00:13:57,791 a system to exfiltrate pedophile priests. 189 00:13:57,791 --> 00:14:00,811 That's the same pattern we've seen in Australia, 190 00:14:00,811 --> 00:14:04,269 it's the same pattern we've seen in the United States, 191 00:14:04,269 --> 00:14:06,717 it's the same pattern we've seen in Canada, 192 00:14:06,717 --> 00:14:11,255 it's the same pattern in Ireland, in England, in Italy. 193 00:14:11,255 --> 00:14:16,184 It's honestly, it's the DNA of the Roman Catholic system. 194 00:14:16,184 --> 00:14:18,935 And I like to call this the geographic solution. 195 00:14:18,935 --> 00:14:22,017 So, what's the bishop means to do then he finds out that 196 00:14:22,017 --> 00:14:24,466 the priest is a perpetrator. 197 00:14:24,466 --> 00:14:27,930 And then at that point, he simply moves him to 198 00:14:27,930 --> 00:14:32,928 a different spot, where the previous scandal is not known. 199 00:14:32,928 --> 00:14:34,223 - [Man] And if it's not enough? 200 00:14:34,223 --> 00:14:36,177 - He moves him outside the country! 201 00:14:36,177 --> 00:14:39,258 That's that's a geographic solution. 202 00:14:39,258 --> 00:14:42,261 You can move him from continent to continent as long 203 00:14:42,261 --> 00:14:45,140 as he can speak the language that is needed. 204 00:14:45,140 --> 00:14:48,184 It looks legitimate, and so he's gonna be accepted 205 00:14:48,184 --> 00:14:50,315 without question. 206 00:14:50,315 --> 00:14:52,962 That's why the danger comes in. 207 00:14:52,962 --> 00:14:55,040 - [Narrator] An anonymous source would provide us with proof 208 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,207 of the geographical solution described by Patrick Wall. 209 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,853 One evening, we receive dozens of internal documents 210 00:15:02,853 --> 00:15:05,262 from the Community of Saint John. 211 00:15:05,262 --> 00:15:09,471 500 brothers present throughout the world. 212 00:15:09,471 --> 00:15:12,615 This French community is highly controversial, 213 00:15:12,615 --> 00:15:14,872 it has the highest number of priests found guilty 214 00:15:14,872 --> 00:15:18,872 of pedophilia in recent years, three since 2012. 215 00:15:21,998 --> 00:15:23,647 And there are thought to have been more cases 216 00:15:23,647 --> 00:15:27,814 of sexual abuse, it's all there in back and white! 217 00:15:35,841 --> 00:15:39,283 As we turn the pages, we get a strange feeling, 218 00:15:39,283 --> 00:15:41,452 the community seems to have become a master in 219 00:15:41,452 --> 00:15:44,036 the art of the international displacement of priests 220 00:15:44,036 --> 00:15:47,286 suspected of sexually abusing children. 221 00:15:55,315 --> 00:15:57,078 Among the pile of documents from 222 00:15:57,078 --> 00:15:59,528 the Community of Saint John, one recent letter 223 00:15:59,528 --> 00:16:01,195 draws our attention, 224 00:16:03,728 --> 00:16:06,728 and sends us rushing to the airport. 225 00:16:08,336 --> 00:16:11,989 Here's the letter: signed by a high-ranking Church official 226 00:16:11,989 --> 00:16:14,489 this archbishop from Cameroon. 227 00:16:16,121 --> 00:16:18,648 He wrote to the head of the Community of Saint John, 228 00:16:18,648 --> 00:16:20,972 having decided to exclude it from diocese, 229 00:16:20,972 --> 00:16:23,125 several Saint John priests. 230 00:16:23,125 --> 00:16:24,875 He explained himself. 231 00:16:27,625 --> 00:16:28,877 Reverend Brother, 232 00:16:28,877 --> 00:16:30,780 some brothers of Saint John got themselves 233 00:16:30,780 --> 00:16:33,659 into situations of extreme gravity. 234 00:16:33,659 --> 00:16:35,998 The brothers in question were about to be hauled in front of 235 00:16:35,998 --> 00:16:39,779 the courts at a risk of dirtying the image of our Church. 236 00:16:39,779 --> 00:16:43,946 I've used all my weight to make sure this did not happen. 237 00:16:46,213 --> 00:16:49,087 What had these French priests done to incur the wrath 238 00:16:49,087 --> 00:16:50,504 of an archbishop? 239 00:16:55,206 --> 00:16:57,828 In Cameroon, a mostly Catholic country, 240 00:16:57,828 --> 00:17:01,661 the Community of Saint John is an institution. 241 00:17:02,542 --> 00:17:04,703 The brothers run one of the biggest high schools in 242 00:17:04,703 --> 00:17:07,203 Yaounde, the capital. 243 00:17:07,203 --> 00:17:09,459 But in Bertoua in the east of the country, 244 00:17:09,459 --> 00:17:13,540 the Brothers of Saint John have left town. 245 00:17:13,540 --> 00:17:16,848 Until 2014, they oversaw this cathedral, 246 00:17:16,848 --> 00:17:19,016 the biggest in the region. 247 00:17:22,151 --> 00:17:25,337 We go to see the archbishop, the one who asked 248 00:17:25,337 --> 00:17:28,004 the Saint John priests to leave. 249 00:17:32,346 --> 00:17:35,222 Monsignor Atanga, one of the African representatives 250 00:17:35,222 --> 00:17:36,472 of the Vatican. 251 00:18:27,184 --> 00:18:30,767 - [Narrator] We tried to dig deeper, but... 252 00:18:51,219 --> 00:18:52,929 - [Narrator] Yes, thank you for your precious comments, 253 00:18:52,929 --> 00:18:57,118 Your Grace, but they weren't exactly helpful! 254 00:18:57,118 --> 00:18:59,752 At the cathedral of Bertoua we'll discover the reasons 255 00:18:59,752 --> 00:19:03,008 why the Saint John brothers hurriedly left own: 256 00:19:03,008 --> 00:19:05,925 another alleged case of pedophilia. 257 00:19:06,953 --> 00:19:10,036 The sexual abuse of a number of boys. 258 00:19:12,334 --> 00:19:16,501 For three days, we try to find these presumed victims. 259 00:19:17,896 --> 00:19:20,718 In this city, where the Catholic Church is omnipresent, 260 00:19:20,718 --> 00:19:23,385 it's hard to broach the subject. 261 00:19:25,550 --> 00:19:28,616 Finally, we find one of the kids who was supposedly abused 262 00:19:28,616 --> 00:19:31,116 by the priest, today, he's 15. 263 00:19:59,272 --> 00:20:00,609 - [Narrator] We show him one of the Community's 264 00:20:00,609 --> 00:20:03,437 internal documents that we managed to procure: 265 00:20:03,437 --> 00:20:05,310 the mug shots of all the Saint John brothers 266 00:20:05,310 --> 00:20:07,727 across the globe, 508 in all. 267 00:20:14,250 --> 00:20:18,417 - [Narrator] This priest had indeed been posted in Bertoua. 268 00:20:47,051 --> 00:20:48,883 - [Narrator] After a few weeks, the boy finally 269 00:20:48,883 --> 00:20:50,886 admitted everything to his parents. 270 00:20:50,886 --> 00:20:53,135 They immediately went together to the Bertoua law courts 271 00:20:53,135 --> 00:20:54,802 to file a complaint. 272 00:20:55,803 --> 00:20:58,803 But here, nobody touches the Church. 273 00:21:23,540 --> 00:21:25,370 - [Narrator] In Bertoua, the justice of men 274 00:21:25,370 --> 00:21:27,537 seems to serve men of God. 275 00:21:30,161 --> 00:21:31,787 We have an appointment with a civil servant 276 00:21:31,787 --> 00:21:34,787 inside the Ministry of Justice. 277 00:21:34,787 --> 00:21:36,370 We film discreetly. 278 00:21:37,754 --> 00:21:40,043 She confirms the closeness between the Church 279 00:21:40,043 --> 00:21:42,210 and one of the top judges. 280 00:22:10,336 --> 00:22:11,997 - [Narrator] The civil servant gives us an excerpt 281 00:22:11,997 --> 00:22:14,330 from the victim's testimony. 282 00:22:15,328 --> 00:22:18,582 The name of Father Emmanuel appears nowhere. 283 00:22:18,582 --> 00:22:20,875 Instead, he's merely designated as 284 00:22:20,875 --> 00:22:25,042 (speaking foreign language), the priest. 285 00:22:39,592 --> 00:22:40,961 - [Narrator] Before leaving Bertoua, 286 00:22:40,961 --> 00:22:44,419 we meet another presumed victim. 287 00:22:44,419 --> 00:22:48,586 He too picks out Father Emmanuel from the mug shots. 288 00:22:59,234 --> 00:23:01,067 - [Narrator] Where is Father Emmanuel now, 289 00:23:01,067 --> 00:23:03,103 the French priest accused of sexually abusing 290 00:23:03,103 --> 00:23:04,603 at least two boys? 291 00:23:05,689 --> 00:23:07,561 Among the Community's internal documents 292 00:23:07,561 --> 00:23:10,061 are the postings made in 2016. 293 00:23:12,512 --> 00:23:15,001 Since being expelled from Bertoua in Cameroon, 294 00:23:15,001 --> 00:23:19,168 Father Emmanuel appears to be in Bologna in Italy. 295 00:23:35,689 --> 00:23:39,665 - [Narrator] We wait for the Father outside the priory. 296 00:23:39,665 --> 00:23:41,332 After a few hours... 297 00:23:42,763 --> 00:23:45,334 - [Narrator] He finally shows up! 298 00:23:45,334 --> 00:23:46,917 We film discreetly. 299 00:25:13,704 --> 00:25:16,700 - [Narrator] Very subtle indeed, children are manipulated 300 00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:19,545 by the archbishop, but Father Emmanuel offers 301 00:25:19,545 --> 00:25:21,212 another explanation. 302 00:25:58,797 --> 00:26:03,092 - [Narrator] According to Father Emmanuel, nothing happened. 303 00:26:03,092 --> 00:26:05,592 But why then was he shipped out of Cameroon 304 00:26:05,592 --> 00:26:07,674 when he could have been posted to another diocese 305 00:26:07,674 --> 00:26:08,924 in the country? 306 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,887 In Bologna, his new superior explains. 307 00:26:20,005 --> 00:26:22,505 He doesn't know we're filming. 308 00:26:50,783 --> 00:26:52,624 - [Narrator] So the Community of Saint John shipped 309 00:26:52,624 --> 00:26:54,880 Father Emmanuel off to Bologna so he wouldn't 310 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,047 be anywhere near any kids! 311 00:26:57,998 --> 00:27:01,671 But when we leave the priory, two posters catch our eye, 312 00:27:01,671 --> 00:27:04,629 (speaking foreign language) and (speaking foreign language). 313 00:27:04,629 --> 00:27:06,962 A theater inside the priory! 314 00:27:10,362 --> 00:27:14,029 - [Narrator] It's then that the penny drops. 315 00:27:39,725 --> 00:27:41,560 - [Narrator] After all this to-ing and fro-ing 316 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,226 in the world of Saint John, 317 00:27:43,226 --> 00:27:47,138 we had a few questions for the head of the community. 318 00:27:47,138 --> 00:27:49,232 On the case in Bertoua in Cameroon, 319 00:27:49,232 --> 00:27:53,363 but also on the other documents in our hands. 320 00:27:53,363 --> 00:27:57,684 The Saint John public relations director emailed us, 321 00:27:57,684 --> 00:27:58,843 Dear sir. 322 00:27:58,843 --> 00:28:01,053 We are prudent about the televised press, 323 00:28:01,053 --> 00:28:03,845 especially when sensitive subjects are concerned. 324 00:28:03,845 --> 00:28:05,969 After long reflection, we prefer to decline your 325 00:28:05,969 --> 00:28:07,750 request for an interview. 326 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:09,627 Regarding the departure of the brothers from 327 00:28:09,627 --> 00:28:12,091 the cathedral in Bertoua, we had every reason to believe 328 00:28:12,091 --> 00:28:14,509 that these rumors were ungrounded, the same conclusion 329 00:28:14,509 --> 00:28:16,805 that the local police and justice obviously reached, 330 00:28:16,805 --> 00:28:20,471 because they pressed no charges after their investigation. 331 00:28:20,471 --> 00:28:23,524 I send you cordial greetings and my prayers. 332 00:28:23,524 --> 00:28:26,274 Not exactly a satisfactory reply! 333 00:28:30,844 --> 00:28:33,049 So we check up on the schedule of the head of 334 00:28:33,049 --> 00:28:35,382 the Community of Saint John. 335 00:28:36,927 --> 00:28:39,085 He's due to fly to Addis Ababa in Ethiopia 336 00:28:39,085 --> 00:28:43,252 today from Charles de Gaulle Airport outside Paris. 337 00:28:49,298 --> 00:28:51,664 We wait for Brother Thomas Joachim with a sign 338 00:28:51,664 --> 00:28:53,497 to grab his attention, 339 00:28:57,692 --> 00:28:58,775 and it works! 340 00:30:46,543 --> 00:30:48,371 - [Narrator] Despite our frequent requests, 341 00:30:48,371 --> 00:30:50,287 the Community of Saint John refused to grant 342 00:30:50,287 --> 00:30:51,620 us an interview. 343 00:30:55,987 --> 00:30:58,983 During our investigation, we discovered other examples 344 00:30:58,983 --> 00:31:00,675 of the international transfer of priests 345 00:31:00,675 --> 00:31:02,508 accused of pedophilia. 346 00:31:05,765 --> 00:31:07,542 We could have chosen to tell you about this priest, 347 00:31:07,542 --> 00:31:10,335 from Lyon, who, after being accused of sexual abuse 348 00:31:10,335 --> 00:31:13,918 by one young teenager, was moved to Guinea. 349 00:31:15,210 --> 00:31:17,504 Or this one, with an international arrest warrant 350 00:31:17,504 --> 00:31:19,295 for sexually abusing children in France 351 00:31:19,295 --> 00:31:23,635 hanging over his head, now in refuge in Lebanon. 352 00:31:23,635 --> 00:31:26,500 Or this one, an Italian, wanted for sexually abusing 353 00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:29,667 eight boys, transferred to Mozambique. 354 00:31:32,416 --> 00:31:34,503 At the heart of the Catholic Church, how many cases 355 00:31:34,503 --> 00:31:37,289 are there of priests moved from country to country 356 00:31:37,289 --> 00:31:40,872 due to suspicion of sexual abuse on minors? 357 00:31:45,186 --> 00:31:47,186 We tried to add them up. 358 00:31:49,543 --> 00:31:51,756 Over three months, we contacted the main victims' 359 00:31:51,756 --> 00:31:53,756 groups around the world. 360 00:31:56,098 --> 00:32:00,015 Each gave us their list of transferred priests. 361 00:32:01,781 --> 00:32:05,281 Then we called whistle-blowers, attorneys, 362 00:32:09,561 --> 00:32:10,394 judges. 363 00:32:12,689 --> 00:32:17,583 And all cross-checked with local newspaper articles. 364 00:32:17,583 --> 00:32:22,346 We only took into account priests moved since 1990. 365 00:32:22,346 --> 00:32:24,774 There were so many cases, we had to see this 366 00:32:24,774 --> 00:32:26,274 on the big screen! 367 00:32:27,491 --> 00:32:31,658 So we booked the biggest panoramic movie theater in Paris! 368 00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:36,750 We compiled all of the data onto a map. 369 00:32:37,794 --> 00:32:41,294 To discover it with us, is Father Joulain. 370 00:32:46,213 --> 00:32:48,793 - [Narrator] A French clergyman with a unique profile: 371 00:32:48,793 --> 00:32:51,239 he's both a priest and a therapist. 372 00:32:51,239 --> 00:32:53,360 He sees sexual abuse victims. 373 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,463 But also the priests accused of it. 374 00:32:56,463 --> 00:32:59,714 That's right, and he's the only French man of the cloth 375 00:32:59,714 --> 00:33:01,797 to accept our invitation. 376 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,447 (beeping) 377 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,240 - [Narrator] As you can imagine after this interview, 378 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:43,659 our attention turned to the Vatican, the Holy See, 379 00:37:43,659 --> 00:37:47,014 the place where the Church's laws are made. 380 00:37:47,014 --> 00:37:49,634 The place where punishments against pedophile priests 381 00:37:49,634 --> 00:37:50,801 are meted out. 382 00:37:51,876 --> 00:37:54,807 But we discovered that even inside the Vatican government, 383 00:37:54,807 --> 00:37:56,559 high-ranking officials have been accused 384 00:37:56,559 --> 00:38:00,013 of covering for priests accused of pedophilia. 385 00:38:00,013 --> 00:38:02,336 After several months of discussion, the Vatican chose 386 00:38:02,336 --> 00:38:04,834 this priest to answer our questions. 387 00:38:04,834 --> 00:38:07,812 Father Zollner, an adviser to the Pope on sexual abuse 388 00:38:07,812 --> 00:38:08,689 issues. 389 00:38:08,689 --> 00:38:11,540 He also sits on the Commission for the Protection of Minors, 390 00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:15,236 a body founded by Pope Francis two years ago. 391 00:38:15,236 --> 00:38:17,190 - You have been appointed to this commission. 392 00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:21,356 What has the commission done since then, 393 00:38:21,356 --> 00:38:22,773 and do you think it's enough? 394 00:38:22,773 --> 00:38:25,443 - We have people from all continents on this commission, 395 00:38:25,443 --> 00:38:28,987 we have experts from different fields so psychology, 396 00:38:28,987 --> 00:38:32,955 psychiatry, law, international law, social work 397 00:38:32,955 --> 00:38:37,398 and theology and we try to discuss what can be next 398 00:38:37,398 --> 00:38:41,180 steps to help the Pope to set up new measures 399 00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:45,223 to be more incisive in the life of local churches. 400 00:38:45,223 --> 00:38:48,223 - Okay, and there is still lot to do, no? 401 00:38:48,223 --> 00:38:52,253 - My expression for this is: this is a generational task. 402 00:38:52,253 --> 00:38:55,500 We will not finish within two years or five years, 403 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,707 we will have to work long term, 404 00:38:57,707 --> 00:39:00,660 between 15, 20 maybe 30 years. 405 00:39:00,660 --> 00:39:02,657 - I wanted to show you something: 406 00:39:02,657 --> 00:39:06,324 these are the 10 cardinals that are usually considered 407 00:39:06,324 --> 00:39:08,408 as the most powerful of the Vatican. 408 00:39:08,408 --> 00:39:10,504 This is the C9, right? 409 00:39:10,504 --> 00:39:11,888 - It's an advisory board. 410 00:39:11,888 --> 00:39:14,428 - Okay and here, Gerhard Muller, 411 00:39:14,428 --> 00:39:16,549 prefect of the Congregation of the Doctrine 412 00:39:16,549 --> 00:39:17,628 on the Faith. 413 00:39:17,628 --> 00:39:21,378 Among these 10 cardinals, four are accused of 414 00:39:23,074 --> 00:39:26,535 having covered up pedophile priests. 415 00:39:26,535 --> 00:39:27,583 You know that of course? 416 00:39:27,583 --> 00:39:30,065 - Sure! - What do you think of it? 417 00:39:30,065 --> 00:39:33,560 - I have no particular knowledge about any of them, 418 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,063 I, I, I don't know. 419 00:39:35,063 --> 00:39:36,949 - You just said to me you knew it. 420 00:39:36,949 --> 00:39:39,741 - I know that there are allegations but I don't know what, 421 00:39:39,741 --> 00:39:42,205 what is the background of these cases. 422 00:39:42,205 --> 00:39:43,269 I am not an investigator. 423 00:39:43,269 --> 00:39:45,601 - You want me to be more precise? 424 00:39:45,601 --> 00:39:46,434 - Sure. 425 00:39:46,434 --> 00:39:50,025 - Okay, George Pell, so he's here, in Australia, 426 00:39:50,025 --> 00:39:52,817 few months ago in front of the Australian Royal Commission 427 00:39:52,817 --> 00:39:57,785 on Sexual Abuses, within the church, we recognized knowing 428 00:39:57,785 --> 00:40:02,344 sexual abuses from Australian priests but did not denounce 429 00:40:02,344 --> 00:40:03,966 them to justice. 430 00:40:03,966 --> 00:40:06,714 So, what do you think of him being in the C9 431 00:40:06,714 --> 00:40:08,469 with that story? 432 00:40:08,469 --> 00:40:12,298 - I have been to Australia last year, I have traveled, 433 00:40:12,298 --> 00:40:16,235 I have been in the diocese and I met with three survivors 434 00:40:16,235 --> 00:40:19,952 from the school where Cardinal Pell was at that time 435 00:40:19,952 --> 00:40:22,788 the vice-director of the school. 436 00:40:22,788 --> 00:40:26,955 And Cardinal Pell will engage to cooperate with justice 437 00:40:28,590 --> 00:40:32,467 and to cooperate in the sense of setting up 438 00:40:32,467 --> 00:40:33,958 safeguarding measures. 439 00:40:33,958 --> 00:40:37,569 - Sure, but when he says he will, this is future. 440 00:40:37,569 --> 00:40:40,982 But he didn't denounce sexual abuses before 441 00:40:40,982 --> 00:40:42,650 and he is on the C9. 442 00:40:42,650 --> 00:40:43,527 - He'd admitted that. 443 00:40:43,527 --> 00:40:45,249 - Is it shocking for you or not? 444 00:40:45,249 --> 00:40:47,011 - Of course it is shocking yes. 445 00:40:47,011 --> 00:40:48,675 - For him to be in the C9 446 00:40:48,675 --> 00:40:52,633 and not having denouncing sexual abuses on minors? 447 00:40:52,633 --> 00:40:53,580 - Yeah, sure. 448 00:40:53,580 --> 00:40:57,247 - Sure. Francisco Errazuriz, in Chile, here. 449 00:40:59,539 --> 00:41:02,226 Documents have showed that Errazuriz 450 00:41:02,226 --> 00:41:06,393 has waited five years after the first victim spoke out 451 00:41:07,597 --> 00:41:08,554 to take action 452 00:41:08,554 --> 00:41:11,555 and to remove the priest, Father Caradima, 453 00:41:11,555 --> 00:41:15,274 and the fire Father Caradima has been since proven guilty 454 00:41:15,274 --> 00:41:17,723 by the Vatican of sexual abuses. 455 00:41:17,723 --> 00:41:19,973 He's here, still in the C9. 456 00:41:21,394 --> 00:41:23,055 - Yeah, I'm not responsible for the appointments in the C9. 457 00:41:23,055 --> 00:41:24,923 - No, but what do you think of it? 458 00:41:24,923 --> 00:41:27,004 - I'm not the one who decides on that. 459 00:41:27,004 --> 00:41:28,468 - [Woman] But, what do you think? 460 00:41:28,468 --> 00:41:30,328 - I think that they will stay as long 461 00:41:30,328 --> 00:41:32,203 as the Pope wants them there. 462 00:41:32,203 --> 00:41:33,818 - Thank you very much. - Thank you. 463 00:41:33,818 --> 00:41:35,736 - [Narrator] It seems then that only the Pope has the power 464 00:41:35,736 --> 00:41:37,625 to punish his cardinals. 465 00:41:37,625 --> 00:41:40,749 So why doesn't he take stronger action? 466 00:41:40,749 --> 00:41:42,912 Maybe because he too faced accusations 467 00:41:42,912 --> 00:41:47,079 in his homeland of Argentina, long before his election. 468 00:41:50,682 --> 00:41:52,683 - [Narrator] When he was Archbishop of Buenos Aires, 469 00:41:52,683 --> 00:41:56,850 he apparently tried to have a pedophile priest acquitted. 470 00:42:04,123 --> 00:42:07,373 To understand, we took one last flight. 471 00:42:10,545 --> 00:42:14,712 In our baggage, this book of interviews with the Pope. 472 00:42:16,248 --> 00:42:18,794 On page 54, the Pope tackles the question 473 00:42:18,794 --> 00:42:20,544 of pedophile priests. 474 00:42:23,508 --> 00:42:27,091 He writes, it never happened in my diocese. 475 00:42:28,921 --> 00:42:32,838 On the Holy Father's word! But is it the truth? 476 00:42:41,616 --> 00:42:43,567 In Buenos Aires, along with God, 477 00:42:43,567 --> 00:42:47,368 or rather Diego Maradona, the Pope is a star. 478 00:42:47,368 --> 00:42:49,285 His face is everywhere. 479 00:42:51,288 --> 00:42:56,207 And yet, some refuse to share in this iconographic cult. 480 00:42:56,207 --> 00:42:58,288 In the city center, we have arranged to meet 481 00:42:58,288 --> 00:43:00,346 a group of victims. 482 00:43:00,346 --> 00:43:02,006 They were abused by priests in 483 00:43:02,006 --> 00:43:04,673 the Archdiocese of Buenos Aires. 484 00:43:09,143 --> 00:43:13,310 They alerted Pope Francis when he was their Archbishop. 485 00:44:30,293 --> 00:44:32,126 - [Narrator] As Archbishop of Buenos Aires, 486 00:44:32,126 --> 00:44:34,576 Pope Francis was seemingly deaf to the distress 487 00:44:34,576 --> 00:44:35,993 of these victims. 488 00:44:37,751 --> 00:44:39,324 But apparently it's worse, 489 00:44:39,324 --> 00:44:41,366 in another case concerning other victims, 490 00:44:41,366 --> 00:44:43,046 some believe he willfully tried to divert 491 00:44:43,046 --> 00:44:44,879 the course of justice. 492 00:44:45,910 --> 00:44:47,783 It's the Father Grassi case. 493 00:44:47,783 --> 00:44:51,690 The biggest pedophilia scandal in the Argentinean Church. 494 00:44:51,690 --> 00:44:54,440 Julio Cesar Grassi was one of the best-known priests 495 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,284 in the country. 496 00:44:55,284 --> 00:44:58,937 Very influential and often in the media spotlight. 497 00:44:58,937 --> 00:45:02,687 (speaking foreign language) 498 00:45:03,901 --> 00:45:05,731 He ran a huge orphanage. 499 00:45:05,731 --> 00:45:08,102 Until some of the children there lodged a complaint 500 00:45:08,102 --> 00:45:10,547 against him for sexual abuse. 501 00:45:10,547 --> 00:45:13,913 In 2009, he was sentenced to 15 years in prison. 502 00:45:13,913 --> 00:45:16,413 Still today, he's behind bars. 503 00:45:20,134 --> 00:45:22,506 But the Argentinean Church did all in its power 504 00:45:22,506 --> 00:45:24,339 to have him acquitted. 505 00:45:26,381 --> 00:45:29,009 Juan Pablo Gallego represented Father Grassi's child 506 00:45:29,009 --> 00:45:29,842 victims. 507 00:45:31,592 --> 00:45:35,224 A trial spread over 15 years and opposite him, 508 00:45:35,224 --> 00:45:37,304 the most renowned attorneys in the land! 509 00:45:37,304 --> 00:45:39,721 But also the Catholic Church. 510 00:45:58,910 --> 00:46:00,248 - [Narrator] Don't be fooled by the cover which 511 00:46:00,248 --> 00:46:02,166 makes you think it's a book, 512 00:46:02,166 --> 00:46:05,939 this 2800-page counter-inquiry is a confidential, 513 00:46:05,939 --> 00:46:09,272 internal, Argentinean Church legal text! 514 00:46:11,301 --> 00:46:14,288 Inside, the children are accused of falsifications, 515 00:46:14,288 --> 00:46:17,158 lies, deceit and invention. 516 00:46:17,158 --> 00:46:21,158 Even their own sexual orientation is questioned. 517 00:46:22,566 --> 00:46:26,281 The conclusion is clear: the court's decision was wrong, 518 00:46:26,281 --> 00:46:29,864 Father Grassi had to be acquitted on appeal 519 00:46:31,298 --> 00:46:33,715 One paragraph caught our eye. 520 00:46:34,585 --> 00:46:37,098 This work was commissioned in 2010 521 00:46:37,098 --> 00:46:39,178 by The Argentine Episcopal Conference 522 00:46:39,178 --> 00:46:43,047 particularly by its then president, Cardinal Bergoglio, 523 00:46:43,047 --> 00:46:44,464 now Pope Francis. 524 00:46:49,012 --> 00:46:51,722 So the Pope did then commission a counter-inquiry to 525 00:46:51,722 --> 00:46:53,425 try to have a priest to have been sentenced 526 00:46:53,425 --> 00:46:55,508 for pedophilia acquitted. 527 00:46:56,997 --> 00:46:59,834 And it's said that Jose Bergoglio, the future Pope, 528 00:46:59,834 --> 00:47:02,460 actually sent it to the judges. 529 00:47:02,460 --> 00:47:04,257 With a shrewd sense of timing, 530 00:47:04,257 --> 00:47:08,172 before Father Grassi's various appeal hearings. 531 00:47:08,172 --> 00:47:10,142 One of the magistrates who received a copy of 532 00:47:10,142 --> 00:47:13,309 the counter-inquiry agreed to meet us. 533 00:47:15,193 --> 00:47:17,773 Carlos Mahiques, a former Appeal Court Judge 534 00:47:17,773 --> 00:47:22,322 and former Minister of Justice, is today a High Court Judge. 535 00:47:22,322 --> 00:47:23,817 It's the first time he's spoken 536 00:47:23,817 --> 00:47:26,697 openly about the Grassi case. 537 00:47:26,697 --> 00:47:28,247 He remembers very well the day he found 538 00:47:28,247 --> 00:47:30,997 this counter-inquiry on his desk. 539 00:48:14,465 --> 00:48:16,665 - [Narrator] But finally useless. 540 00:48:16,665 --> 00:48:18,871 Father Grassi's sentence was upheld at both 541 00:48:18,871 --> 00:48:21,704 the Appeal's Court and High Court. 542 00:48:22,879 --> 00:48:24,421 At the center of the counter-inquiry 543 00:48:24,421 --> 00:48:25,589 commissioned by the Pope when he was 544 00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:27,426 Archbishop of Buenos Aires, 545 00:48:27,426 --> 00:48:29,887 is the account of a boy, an orphan, 546 00:48:29,887 --> 00:48:32,054 the main victim of Grassi. 547 00:48:34,098 --> 00:48:36,436 Since the case blew up in the early 2000s, 548 00:48:36,436 --> 00:48:40,586 it's the first time he has agreed to talk to a reporter. 549 00:48:40,586 --> 00:48:42,293 He wants to remain anonymous, 550 00:48:42,293 --> 00:48:45,543 because he's still afraid of reprisals. 551 00:49:41,471 --> 00:49:42,838 - [Narrator] The Pope has never publicly 552 00:49:42,838 --> 00:49:45,255 commented on the Grassi case. 553 00:49:47,251 --> 00:49:49,214 For eight months, we tried to get an interview 554 00:49:49,214 --> 00:49:51,047 with the Holy Father. 555 00:49:51,047 --> 00:49:53,714 Dozens of requests, all refused. 556 00:49:56,998 --> 00:50:00,919 So at the Vatican, we tried to meet His Holiness. 557 00:50:00,919 --> 00:50:05,725 He was to hold a public audience on Saint Peter's Square. 558 00:50:05,725 --> 00:50:08,642 To get anywhere near him, you need to be up very early 559 00:50:08,642 --> 00:50:12,559 and to slip into the long line of the faithful. 560 00:50:18,924 --> 00:50:20,761 The doors open. 561 00:50:20,761 --> 00:50:22,966 Like at a concert, you have to sprint to the front 562 00:50:22,966 --> 00:50:24,799 to get the best places 563 00:50:28,982 --> 00:50:33,044 Mission accomplished, we're in the front row. 564 00:50:33,044 --> 00:50:35,547 We split up, one part of the crew films from 565 00:50:35,547 --> 00:50:37,214 the Vatican terrace. 566 00:50:43,305 --> 00:50:45,206 We want to give Pope Francis a letter with all 567 00:50:45,206 --> 00:50:47,410 our questions on his supposed role in 568 00:50:47,410 --> 00:50:51,577 the attempt to divert the course of justice in Argentina. 569 00:50:58,686 --> 00:51:01,519 Thousands of people have gathered. 570 00:51:02,556 --> 00:51:06,556 We'll need a miracle to get to talk to the Pope. 571 00:51:09,745 --> 00:51:13,245 A few hours later, the popemobile arrives. 572 00:51:27,527 --> 00:51:30,444 The third time it passes, we shout. 573 00:51:37,219 --> 00:51:39,969 We manage to give him our letter. 574 00:51:44,185 --> 00:51:46,685 And then, a few minutes later. 575 00:52:25,252 --> 00:52:28,370 - [Narrator] Despite our quick chat, neither Pope Francis 576 00:52:28,370 --> 00:52:33,037 nor any Vatican official has ever answered our letter. 577 00:52:33,037 --> 00:52:36,450 (speaking foreign language) 578 00:52:36,450 --> 00:52:39,491 At the end of this investigation, there's one question. 579 00:52:39,491 --> 00:52:41,414 How can the Catholic Church retrieve itself 580 00:52:41,414 --> 00:52:43,664 from these guilty silences? 581 00:52:44,832 --> 00:52:47,880 Clergymen from a number of countries, such as Belgium, 582 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:51,129 the United States and the Netherlands are mobilizing 583 00:52:51,129 --> 00:52:53,181 and launching national inquiry commissions 584 00:52:53,181 --> 00:52:56,297 on sexual abuse within the Church. 585 00:52:56,297 --> 00:52:58,504 All victims are listened to, 586 00:52:58,504 --> 00:53:00,883 and the spotlight has fallen on the responsibility 587 00:53:00,883 --> 00:53:02,841 of the bishops. 588 00:53:02,841 --> 00:53:05,719 So, let us pray, may the Vatican order 589 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,976 a worldwide inquiry commission 590 00:53:08,976 --> 00:53:11,712 so that that past scars may be healed 591 00:53:11,712 --> 00:53:15,212 and we may still have faith in the future. 592 00:53:18,193 --> 00:53:21,610 (calm foreboding music) 45070

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