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Dead is and remains -
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- a kind of saint figure -
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- in black metal.
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He was artistic at -
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- a very extreme, strange way.
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When he sang the songs, -
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- he was at the place he sang about.
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I think he made Mayhem
the Mayhem I liked.
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He was the one who added the
last detail the band needed.
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It was clear that he was
bothered by something.
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He was not well.
He needed help.
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He did not have to end up in
these things to Øystein, -
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- which only became worse and worse.
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Norwegian texts: Jørn-Are Haugli Johansen
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In the 80's we did not have internet,
but we had local radio.
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The studio was good enough, -
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- but the mixer had never
heard of Lucifer.
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He thought we were playing reggae.
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The first time I heard about Mayhem was
in an interview with Øystein and Jørn.
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Most people are much more likely
to get in touch with the band.
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It's much more personal.
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People write to us,
we write back.
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We get a lot of letters.
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We got the address of Mayhem, and
then we wrote letters to them.
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It took two or three weeks,
and then we got an answer.
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It was very fun in the beginning when we
discovered that there were several -
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- which was a little blown in the
head. -It was big. We framed it.
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It was boss.
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The letters looked like this.
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A little elaborate. Euronymous,
Necrobutcher and Manheim.
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Mayhem is like that trio.
"Death is fucking fun."
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"Greetings to the true Mayhem."
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Mayhem was a band I became aware
of when I was 13 years old.
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Then I had the band Slaught, which
I started due to. Mayhem.
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He who designed the logo, had probably
seen a lot of this logo.
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They became in a way a blueprint
for how you can be -
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- a very genuine band, for Norwegian
extreme metal bands.
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Mayhem is in a way patient
number one.
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There were a lot of little things
bubbling around all over Norway.
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It was pretty unestablished at first.
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The first Norwegian band, apart from
Mayhem, that I listened to, was -
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- a band from Nittedal called Vomit.
They were out very early.
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They were the only ones we knew about
who were doing the same thing as us.
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At least in Norway.
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Of course, they became
superheroes for us.
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They were much older than us and
had very long, black hair.
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I have seen pictures of
myself at that time.
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There are braces and pimples ...
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We were there, sort of, while they were ...
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They were terribly tough,
scary and harsh.
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We really looked up to them.
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I wonder what Mayhem saw in Vomit.
It was probably musical.
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It was just us. It was Mayhem
and Vomit when they met us.
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They had no choice.
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Either they had to sit
alone at Langhus, -
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- or there were some bastards
in Nittedal -
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- who thought they were cool.
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They thought our music was good, then.
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Once Kittil and I had
to jump into Mayhem.
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They had neither singer nor drummer.
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We got to a point where we did not
get much further. A crossroads.
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Are you going to go all in, or are you
going to come up with something else?
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I was one of those who wanted
to invent something else.
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I did not want to live on crispbread.
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It was best to give up.
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There and then many probably agreed
with me that Mayhem had delivered.
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It is not good to say
what happens next.
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Kittil and I were a little like that -
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- temporary drummer and vocalist.
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Right now we are borrowing
two boys from Vomit.
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We borrow the vocalist and the
drummer. That sounds great.
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They have a hell of a clue
about playing and stuff.
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But they are completely different people
than us. That's a little weird.
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We did not fit in.
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Mayhem was not a joke. They
were bloody serious.
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It was not us.
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We tried to make tough pictures
and stuff, but it's ...
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Kittil and I did not get it.
We refused to look evil.
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Øystein and Jørn were completely desperate.
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What do you do in the future? Are you betting
on getting a permanent vocalist?
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Of course. We aim to get
regular musicians.
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The trouble is that there are so few people
in Norway who like that kind of music.
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There are even fewer who
manage to play it.
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We had a mailbox at Langhus
post office. Box 75.
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I lived at Langhus, so it
was my job to empty it.
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One day there was a package there.
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I opened the package, -
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- and there was only one such rotten ...
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It smelled absolutely damn good.
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I saw that it was a mouse.
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Crucified on two sticks.
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It was upstairs with a cassette.
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It was the demo called ...
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... "December Moon" from
a band called Morbid.
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He has received information
that we needed a vocalist.
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He wondered if he could
rehearse for us.
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Here was my classroom when
I went to school here.
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Pelle went further down. There
are three wings that go out.
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We used to climb on the roof
that goes between the wings.
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When we got up, we had to bend down,
so the caretaker did not see us.
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Then we climbed further up here.
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Here we had fun. We joked and fooled
around with each other.
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He told what he had done.
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Maybe I should tell
you what I did.
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If he was interested. That's how big
brothers are. You look up to them, -
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- but they do not look up to little brother.
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It was a great time. It's one
of my best memories of him.
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To have him a little for himself.
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He was probably very different.
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He went by the name "Horn-Per".
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Everyone knew who he was. He had painted
the moped completely black.
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With pentagram on.
No one else had.
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When he went to this school, he went
to a pretty close-knit class.
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At this school he was well. It was
like a small village school.
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In secondary school, it was found that
the classes should be divided.
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It quickly went wrong. It
was a harsh environment.
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It was like that ... He
was bullied by a gang.
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He was beaten. Skambank. He was
more or less beaten to death.
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He had a very weak pulse,
or no pulse.
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Then he came to the hospital, and
they cut open the whole stomach.
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They soon saw that the spleen was broken.
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He was beaten because he was a little weird.
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He did not quite fit in anywhere.
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He was very ashamed of this.
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It was probably a bad time for him.
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It ended well, after all, when
he moved to Tungelstaskolan.
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It got much better there.
He made new friends.
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He came home and said he was in a
band. It was absolutely amazing.
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No one understood anything.
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The experiences from the hospital
and the beating he received ...
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He was fascinated by the fact that he actually
died, or did not have a pulse.
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It was an inspiration to him -
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- to see death from within instead of from without.
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"Here I have an infinite inspiration
and power I can pick from."
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It also made him later take
the artist name "Dead".
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When everyone wanted to look
tough and stain their teeth,
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- he had a mine where he
tried to look dead.
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Morbid had recorded a demo.
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It was not as big as the LP.
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He was very fascinated by Mayhem and
what they had managed to produce.
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He showed off their record
and their band logo.
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I remember it was a little intimidating.
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It was scary just looking
at the logo itself.
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He said nothing to us, only that
he was going to Norway.
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Pelle had everything he owned.
I was not prepared for that.
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I thought he was going to audition,
but he had decided.
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He had a bag with everything
he owned.
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There were some clothes, some magazines
... The Phantom and Dracula.
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A pair of ampoules of fake blood.
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And cobwebs. That was what he had
with him. His earthly goods.
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The first thing we do is
actually take pictures.
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We drew the fake blood -
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- to see if we got any funny
pictures for the promo.
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This was going to be shitty.
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He understood the music.
He had a good voice.
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He even had an image. He
called himself "Dead".
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It was all-consuming for him,
it was not just image.
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That was his main interest.
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Life after death.
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He talks a lot about lying in his
coffin and getting bedsores ...
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Starved himself to look dead.
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I sit there and just ...
"What is this for?"
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"He's not kidding. There's nothing
funny about this guy."
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Not many days after that
... Then I was done.
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Then I quietly pulled myself out of
that whole environment, really.
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Then came Jan Axel, who played a
thousand times better than me.
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He probably fit in much better.
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This set is very similar to the one
I have used all these years.
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Jan Axel is a fantastic drummer. Perhaps
one of the most talented.
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He has helped to shape what is the
style of Norwegian black metal.
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I probably hit harder and was faster.
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Quick bass drums and stuff. That was probably
what the guys looked for the most.
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From 88 to 91 they made their best songs.
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That Hellhammer came in, I think
contributed a lot to that.
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Hellhammer's drumming took
them to a new level.
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Pelle's vision and texts as well.
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I think he made Mayhem
the Mayhem I liked.
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What they made after he joined
is what I like best.
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He was perhaps the last piece
to get the band perfect.
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Freezing Moon.
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"Freezing Moon" I remember very
well. It was very long -
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- a kind of underground hit. Øystein
played it in many contexts.
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It was like his signature song -
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- when he found the right, new
path for Mayhem, musically.
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Very fun that there is
a version with Pelle.
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The Freezing Moon version with him
is just completely ... Classic!
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When I hear that, I
still get chills.
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He sang in an absolutely incredible way.
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Very raw, uncut voice.
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The way he phrased, the way
he left his vocals ...
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The way he got it out of his vocal
cords was quite peculiar.
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I think it was because.
his empathy.
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When he sang those songs, he was there. He
was at the place he was singing about.
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I remember Pelle had a bag of
dead crows he had dug down -
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- in advance of the recording. I
had to hold it while he sang.
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Between the verses he appeared in the bag
and ... And then up again to sing.
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He was very like that ... He was artistic
in an extreme, weird way.
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He managed to put such an aesthetic
framework on textual content.
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In what eventually became the
Norwegian black metal.
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Pelle put a kind of sophisticated
touch on it.
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Dark, but not violent.
Mysterious, occult.
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In many ways more "disturbing". The
unknown. "What's happening here?"
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"Who are you? What the hell
is going on in your head?"
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He wandered around in his own world.
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He was kidding. He had
some dark sides too.
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It was clear that he was
bothered by something.
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For the first few years I had
to write the lyrics, -
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- where I pulled out elements
from horror movies.
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I mixed it with the sexual frustration
I had as a teenager.
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As ... Before you ...
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Before you find someone to have sex with.
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It was pretty primitive stuff.
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While Pelle ... The lyrics he wrote,
it was as dark as hell.
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It was about longing to
get to the other side.
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On the dead side.
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These are some of the most personal
texts I have read.
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The strongest texts written.
At least in black metal.
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I did not see how personal it
really was until afterwards.
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Mayhem! Mayhem! Mayhem! Mayhem!
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When Mayhem played at Jessheim
on February 3, 1990, -
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- it must be considered one
of the first moments -
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- where the black metal environment
begins to sprout and grow.
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The Jessheim concert was great.
Finally, Mayhem was to play.
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They have practiced and practiced, and Aarseth
has written letters to gather people.
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People came from all sorts
of places in Norway.
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Everyone is there to see what
Mayhem has come up with.
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It was a typical community house, which
can be found in all villages.
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I was probably only fourteen years old.
My father drove me and waited outside.
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Outside the room, they talked
a lot about Pelle.
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What he wanted to invent.
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It was fabulous. What would happen?
Maybe an ambulance was ready?
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Mayhem! Mayhem! Mayhem! Mayhem!
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I remember there was an incredible amount
of clutter. Very unstructured.
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It took a very long time between songs.
They had technical problems.
235
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,200
I wonder if the sound went, the power went
... A lot of strange things happened.
236
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,520
The pissed off fuses in the
shed go all the time!
237
00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:24,240
Some people left before
Mayhem would play.
238
00:24:24,360 --> 00:24:30,320
They did not like mayhem. Mayhem
was like just ... rubbish.
239
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:35,000
But the rest of us were a little more
tough, we wanted to see them.
240
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It was damn tough.
241
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,600
It took the whole scene to the next level.
242
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:17,640
It was groundbreaking to see Mayhem
live with Dead on vocals.
243
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:24,440
The suit he was wearing. Ragged
clothes, corpse make-up and ...
244
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:30,440
Texts and expressions that were
such a worship of death.
245
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:36,160
It was not done at that
level in Norway.
246
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,920
The feeling of being at a concert, and
there were 100-120 pieces there, -
247
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:52,560
- and you feel that you are experiencing something completely
new. Something no one has experienced before.
248
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,920
It created a tremendous impression.
249
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:06,200
In the audience that night, there are
people who start bands like Emperor:
250
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,720
Bård Eithun and Thomas Haugen.
251
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,320
People who start Immortal: Olve
Eikemo, Harald Nævdal.
252
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,240
Gylve Nagell, who already plays in
Black Death, later Darkthrone.
253
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:22,760
Snorre Ruch, who later
started Thorns.
254
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:27,960
All become part of the bedrock
in Norwegian black metal.
255
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,440
Then I just have to say one thing.
256
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:56,040
In retrospect, I have read a number of letters
and flyers Øystein has written.
257
00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:02,160
Now people had to know the time of
the visit and come to the concert.
258
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,320
He thought that Pelle should
be cut up at the concert.
259
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:14,080
Pelle talked about doing it. It
was part of the stage show.
260
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:19,280
He was going to spray blood on people.
Øystein was really excited about it.
261
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,960
I was not turned on by it. I thought
it was a stupid idea.
262
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,480
It was going too far.
263
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,680
I gave him some knives that
were dull as hell, -
264
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,360
- for him to do such theatrical
things with blunt knives.
265
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:42,120
Of course you did not go deep.
Until it was not raw enough, -
266
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:48,920
- so he smashed a cola bottle and started
with it. Then it went wrong.
267
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,560
He cut himself so damn hard that
he had to leave the stage.
268
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:59,000
It was totally ... Yeah, damn it.
269
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:05,400
Øystein thought it was a cool thing.
He knew it was a shock effect.
270
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:11,240
I thought it was not worth it.
That buddy was too cool to ...
271
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:18,520
Even if he talked about it
himself, I would not -
272
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,480
- encourage him to do it, but Øystein
encouraged him to do it.
273
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,880
That was where things started to
cut between me and Øystein.
274
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:36,000
I thought it was a little painful.
A bit like a lack of empathy.
275
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:45,120
From then on, I also felt that
Mayhem fell victim to -
276
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:50,120
- its own image. Øystein started
to get a little weird then too.
277
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,800
Just that he thought this
was really cool, sort of.
278
00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:00,440
He loved talking about Pelle
to the rest of us -
279
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,840
- as a very strange, mysterious person.
He talked for hours about -
280
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,760
- how expensive and exceptional
Pelle was.
281
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,760
It is part of his myth-making
around Pelle.
282
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:19,040
The Pelle of Reality, of which
I also saw a part, was -
283
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:24,800
- a clearly bothered person.
284
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:31,120
He must have been deeply depressed.
He needed help.
285
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,720
He did not have to end
up in Øystein's stuff.
286
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:07,320
The tour was also something in itself.
Øystein's indomitable optimism made -
287
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:13,800
- that we went with InterRail tickets, because
they were cheap. We were broke.
288
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,040
There was so much shit all the time.
289
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,720
We were hungry, tired, tired ...
290
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:43,240
We are talking about very bad
equipment and shabby schemes.
291
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:48,760
I don 't remember any of the
concerts. Just all the shit.
292
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,880
Me, Øystein and Pelle lived together.
293
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,160
Øystein and Pelle began to
quarrel and disagree.
294
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:24,040
Pelle was tired of Øystein's optimism
which never led to anything.
295
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:32,840
It just resulted in chaos. Øystein was
then annoyed and grumpy at him, -
296
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:38,880
- who just complained and sewed all the time.
297
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:44,680
Pelle was then to go home and did not
bother with this nonsense anymore.
298
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:56,440
It had been Easter, and everyone in the band
had been at home with their parents.
299
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,520
Pelle stayed in the house. He
was probably alone then.
300
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,680
He was having a hell of a time.
301
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:11,960
Dad had been in touch with him and
tried to encourage him to -
302
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,920
- to come to Stockholm and
maybe go to school.
303
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,040
I think he was ashamed.
304
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,400
He was too proud to come home with
his tail between his legs and say:
305
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:30,000
"It went to hell. Now I want a band
where everyone is focused."
306
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:36,040
Or something like that. It was
too hard for him to get home -
307
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,640
- with the tail between the legs
and answer all the questions.
308
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:46,520
At the same time he must
have had a depression.
309
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:52,800
So he went out into the woods and tried
to kill himself. It did not go well.
310
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,200
Then he went back to the house -
311
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:01,840
- and shot himself with a shotgun that was lying there.
312
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,600
A few days after, or the same day, -
313
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,280
Øystein found him dead.
314
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,320
He probably did not quite
know how to react.
315
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:26,800
He reacted by being elated
and thought -
316
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:32,880
- that it was interesting, and
he gets started, quite simply.
317
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:38,720
He goes out and buys a camera, and then
he takes pictures of Pelle's body.
318
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:44,560
If I've got it right, he's moving
things around a bit -
319
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,760
- so that he would look better.
He arranged the pictures.
320
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:59,240
It was probably Øystein who called me.
He said, "Pelle has gone home."
321
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:04,720
"What? Has he traveled to Sweden
now?" "No, he's gone home."
322
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,040
"He has blown his hat off."
323
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,560
"Geez? Seriously?" "Yes,
that's absolutely true."
324
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:17,040
"But!" Typical Øystein.
"But I took pictures!"
325
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:24,240
Maybe not so surprised by the pictures,
but the way he said it.
326
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,280
"What are we going to do with them?"
327
00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:34,440
The first time I meet Øystein again,
he comes with an envelope.
328
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,360
Up there are some pictures.
329
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:45,480
When I realize that these are the
pictures of Per, I just say:
330
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:52,320
"You have to burn those pictures. You can
not contact me until that happens."
331
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:58,680
But he did not.
332
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,680
When you get Jørn to quit Mayhem,
you have in a way ...
333
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:12,080
Then it's over. It is clear that Øystein
drew Mayhem's image into -
334
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,280
- something that was
no longer fun.
335
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,840
It was just destructive.
336
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:26,080
Then I think Øystein realized that
the material was very strong.
337
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:39,920
He understood that there was a strength in
it. Or a force in the offensive images.
338
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,560
I was shocked when I heard
what had happened.
339
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:51,960
That he had found him,
fetched a camera, -
340
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,400
- taken pictures and all that.
He showed me the pictures.
341
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,040
Unfortunately, those images were scattered.
342
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,720
Someone said Pelle was dead, but
I thought it could not be true.
343
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,440
I met him a few months before,
and we exchanged letters.
344
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:14,080
I sent a letter to Øystein and received
a reply after a few days. That's right.
345
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:20,600
Then I got a piece of the skull, two
hailstones and a little more.
346
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:26,600
I also received a letter from Øystein
with a picture and a piece of skull.
347
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:32,680
That was just enough. It was
very easy to lose Pelle.
348
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:38,800
He was a role model. Very cool vocalist
who wrote good lyrics.
349
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,440
I had no special,
deep reactions.
350
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:48,960
Other than that: "Oh fuck, tough!"
It's completely hollow in the hat.
351
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:55,520
I did not think much. You
were in a certain mode.
352
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:02,320
It felt like ... something
I could do myself.
353
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:08,880
Why did I have no reaction? Why did
I not distance myself from it?
354
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:15,480
Maybe because you wanted to
be in that environment?
355
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:22,920
You looked up to Øystein, perhaps,
that was why you did everything, -
356
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:27,560
- or man ... There was
a little brainwashing.
357
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,720
For Øystein, the Mayhem project
is the only one.
358
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,720
That's what he works for.
359
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,440
You have to see it in that context.
When this happens, -
360
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:43,280
- Øystein puts this
into this project.
361
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:48,440
The music, black metal
... Building Mayhem.
362
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:54,080
Pelle was clearly part of
the story of Mayhem.
363
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,600
He committed suicide early.
364
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:05,560
It also became such a mythical
thing. It has helped Mayhem.
365
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:11,200
It's a morbid thing to say, but
should one be ice cold -
366
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,560
- and just look at what it
has done for the band, -
367
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,200
- has given them an incredible
amount of free advertising.
368
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,360
It becomes part of the Mayhem myth.
369
00:38:31,720 --> 00:38:35,280
I never got over that.
370
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:41,480
I have been annoyed all these
years by products that I see.
371
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,680
T-shirts, plates and ...
372
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:51,200
That people use that image
in a commercial context.
373
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:57,240
Whereupon it has become so common that people
who have a T-shirt with that picture, -
374
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:03,880
- comes to me at a concert
and asks for my autograph.
375
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,920
I really just most want to
knock them straight down.
376
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:16,040
Yeah Al that sounds pretty crap to me,
Looks like it aint for me either.
377
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:29,360
It has become a cult image.
378
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:35,080
The problem with that is that those who
are fans, or write about music, -
379
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,760
- loses respect a little.
They see the icon Dead, -
380
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:45,360
- which is his artist name.
They see him and he's dead.
381
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,560
That's what they see.
382
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:56,080
What I see is something completely different.
I see my big brother's tragic end.
383
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:01,800
It is as if I see all his suffering
in one and the same picture.
384
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,640
If I become friends with
someone on Facebook, -
385
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:13,320
- they can have the image in their stream.
Then I usually say it's my brother.
386
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:19,760
"That picture is the worst I know." Then
they answer: "Oi. Huff then. Sorry."
387
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,400
"Obviously I have to remove it."
388
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,920
The actors who spread the image, on the other hand,
389
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:33,400
- Facebook, Google, Instagram
and all these ...
390
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:39,800
They will not hear about their role in this.
391
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,640
Sometimes there are fresh
flowers here when I come.
392
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,920
So people come here all the time.
393
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,240
The hope lies in the fans.
394
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,960
Maybe a guy in Kiel writes:
395
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,160
"You should know that your brother's
music has saved my life."
396
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:11,720
"He got me to school every day." That he
is a positive driving force for many.
397
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:16,600
Something you get strength from.
I'm very proud of that.
398
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:22,520
What else might you think of in connection
with black metal and stuff, -
399
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:29,040
- is that it must be negative.
Death, cremation and murder.
400
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,520
All such unpleasant things.
But it is also ...
401
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:40,160
Like all music and art, there is also something
that gives power and energy.
402
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,960
It is very powerful.
403
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:51,000
Dead is and remains a kind of saint figure -
404
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,960
- in black metal.
405
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,880
Such will always exist.
406
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,560
Especially in such a dramatically
structured genre.
407
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:09,240
The live recordings of
Pelle and his voice, -
408
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,680
- and his lyrics, it's ...
409
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:19,960
It is put on a pedestal, and most of the
black metal ends up in the shade.
410
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:28,120
There was so much that fit into
the little he had time to do.
411
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:32,720
At the same time he was a boy from Stockholm.
412
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,960
Which unfortunately did not
get older than he did.
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