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Hey Siri, send a
message to Cheryl.
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Front reception.
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What do you want to say?
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Amos is already heading
there to pick him up, period.
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Please forward any calls
I get to Brady, period.
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Your message to
Cheryl front reception
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says Amos is already heading
there to pick him up.
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Please forward any calls
I get to Brady.
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Ready to send it?
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Yes.
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Okay, it's sent.
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Hey, Siri,
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how do you know if you're
doing the right thing?
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I'm not sure
I understand.
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But what do you believe
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is the difference between
right and wrong?
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Hmm.
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I don't have an answer for that.
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Would you like me to
search the web?
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No.
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Okay, is there
something else I can help with?
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Set a reminder to pick up Kyle
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from therapy tomorrow at 4:45.
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Okay, I'll remind you.
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Hi, special agent Deena Helms.
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You've already met
Agent McCullough.
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You can call me Amos.
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-Uh, agents?
-Have a seat for us, Gareth.
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Do you mind answering a
couple questions?
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Great, this shouldn't take long.
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You're from Tampa, right?
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Don't overthink it.
It's a yes or no.
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Yeah.
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How old are you, Gareth?
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29.
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What do you do for work?
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I'm sorry, am I being detained?
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No, not at all.
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We're just asking
questions, background stuff.
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You work on movies, right?
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Special effects.
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Someone told me you worked
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on that new "Star Wars"
movie, is that right?
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Who told you that?
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Why don't you tell us
more about it?
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Tell us about your work.
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I used to do VFX for an
animation company.
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I've worked on at least
20 different films.
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Used to?
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I've been focusing more
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on software engineering
recently for years-
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Sounds boring compared
to light sabers.
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Why quit?
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I wasn't
getting paid well.
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But money's not an
issue for you.
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Excuse me?
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What kind of
effects did you do?
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Money's not an issue for me?
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-Let's talk about-
-If money wasn't an issue for me
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I wouldn't have applied
for your grant.
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I didn't mean to
suggest anything.
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Tell us what kind of
effects you did.
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My main focus was on
3D renderings.
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Of what?
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-Actors.
-What for?
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Well, for "Star Wars,"
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it was because the actor
I was tasked to digitize
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was unavailable to be
filmed in person.
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Why?
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Because they were dead.
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What'd they have you do?
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I reconstructed Alec
Guinness' face as a 3D model.
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I analyzed reference footage,
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then used a process called
D-Term to procedurally generate
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his bone and muscle structures,
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which one rigged helped
the animation feel
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more natural and human-like.
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D-Term, I've never heard
of that process before.
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Because I invented it.
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So you're
basically bringing
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dead actors back to life?
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I just tried to make
the CG characters look as
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photorealistic as the technology
at the time would allow.
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You didn't
find it creepy?
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I'm sorry, what?
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I said you don't find
that creepy?
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Well, we did our best to
cross the uncanny valley.
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But when the human
brain perceives
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that something is just slightly
off and it doesn't matter-
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No, I mean,
digitizing dead people.
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Christ, I mean, it's,
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it's almost like turning
someone's corpse
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into a marionette, you know?
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Making them do
whatever you want.
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What if the poor dead guy
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didn't want to be in
another fucking movie?
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It's so macabre.
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Am I crazy? Is it not macabre?
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I don't think the studio cares
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whether it's macabre or not.
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Look, I can never tell
the difference.
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I always can.
The faces look like Play-Doh.
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Well, we did our best.
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Soon we won't even need actors,
right?
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Everyone will just be digital.
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No, you still need them
for motion tracking.
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Human performances can't be
completely computer generated.
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How long will that be true?
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Some might say we've already
crossed that threshold.
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I wouldn't know.
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Where'd you go to school?
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-Brooks-DeBartolo High.
-And after?
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Nothing?
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What about Columbia?
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Didn't you go to Columbia?
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Wait, no.
You dropped out of Columbia
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after how many semesters?
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Three?
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Bjarne Stroustrup said
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you were the smartest
kid he ever met.
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I don't know who he is, but
Amos says it's a big deal.
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Then you moved to the
Netherlands,
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spent some time as an intern,
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applied and got into Cambridge.
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Very nice.
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Except that you dropped
out after two years.
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Flew back to the States,
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interned in Palo Alto,
then Montreal.
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Then went all the way
back to England,
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where you landed a job
in Sheffield.
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Second job in Manchester.
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Then got into Oxford where you
almost finished your masters
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before ditching the graduation
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and moving back here to Florida.
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If money was an issue,
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I'm glad you had plenty
of flyer miles.
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I didn't hear a question.
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What's your social life like?
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My, what does that have
anything to do-
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If you don't want to talk
about it, that's fine.
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We just wanted to know if
you have friends and stuff.
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-I have friends.
-A lot of them?
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-I have friends.
-Can you name one?
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- Can I what?
- Can you tell us the nam
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of just one of your friends?
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- Steve.
- Steve. Steve what?
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I don't know how this is
relevant to receiving the grant.
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Oh, we're just getting
to know you, Gareth.
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You got a girlfriend?
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Boyfriend?
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You, uh, talk to people online?
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I don't know what you
mean by that.
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I don't use social media.
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I mean more like chat rooms.
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You go on any chat rooms?
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No one uses chat rooms anymore.
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Sure they do.
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You chat with anyone online?
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- Sometimes.
- Sometimes.
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What kinds of people
do you talk to online?
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Gareth, obviously, this
isn't about a grant.
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We need to know
what your alias is.
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When you go online, what
name do you use?
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I don't have one.
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Yes, you do.
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And you need to tell
us what it is.
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Sorry, I can't help you.
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You know who we are?
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Well, this is the ICWL building.
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That's right.
You know what we do?
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Humanitarian work.
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That's what the
people upstairs do.
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You know what we do?
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We catch pedophiles.
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Amos here specializes in
tracking down online predators.
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He spends every waking hour
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scouring those chat
rooms you say no one uses
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and he finds thousands of
people soliciting children.
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Our operation is like a
tightly spun spider web
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connecting ICWL, the FBI, NSA,
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and let me tell you, his
team here is a vital thread.
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He reports everything he
gathers directly to me,
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and I see to it that the
necessary authorities
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take swift action.
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So are you in charge?
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This is my spiderweb.
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I'm the fucking spider, Gareth.
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Am I being detained?
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We already told you
that you're not detained.
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Good.
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But if you leave this
room, you will be arrested.
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For what?
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I told you what we do.
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Take a wild guess.
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I am not what
you think I am.
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We'll see.
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Gareth, you just gotta
tell us your alias.
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What's your username?
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Sit down.
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- Why do you do this with them?
- Hmm?
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There's no way you do this
with every suspect you have.
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Invite them to your headquarters
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and then drag them down
into a basement.
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That's right.
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Why are you doing
this to me then?
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You tell us, Gare.
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What makes you so fuckin'
special?
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I don't know.
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What's your alias?
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-I don't have an alias.
-Yes you do.
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It starts with the word hard.
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Just finish the rest.
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Sit down, Mr. Federson.
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I only have a few
more questions.
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Do you recognize this girl?
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Do you know her?
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Yes.
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What's her name?
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Cherry.
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- Cherry what?
- She doesn't have a last name.
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Yes, she does, Gareth,
she's not Madonna.
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-She's a little girl.
-You don't understand.
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Yeah, well, I'd like to.
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So help me out, is she
your daughter?
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-No.
-Then whose daughter is she?
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-She, she doesn't have--
-How did you meet her?
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I didn't meet her.
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Then why do you have photos
of her on your computer?
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What the hell are you
talking about?
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Why do you fucking have photos
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of this girl on your fucking-
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Are you looking at
my hard drive?
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Because that's an
invasion of privacy.
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So you know what photos
I'm talking about?
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You don't have to do
it this way.
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I gave you permission to sit in.
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I did not give you
permission to speak.
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This is insane,
you cannot keep-
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What else have you
done with her?
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- Nothing!
- Did you take the photos?
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It's, it's complicated.
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No, it's not! Yes or no?
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Did you take the photos?
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I didn't do anything wrong,
okay?
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Soliciting pornography of
minors is an egregious felony.
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Distributing that
pornography is tenfold worse.
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-I didn't do anything!
-Fucking prove it!
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What is your alias?
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Answer me!
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HardMachine11811.
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You're HardMachine.
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Thanks for confirming.
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If you knew, then why
do this to me?
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We weren't positive,
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and if you turned out
to not be HardMachine,
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you were obviously
just a predator.
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Do you keep track?
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I mean, do you know how many
bad people you've nailed?
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I didn't start
counting until 2023.
261
00:12:23,010 --> 00:12:25,377
196 convictions.
262
00:12:25,379 --> 00:12:26,378
There were at least 30
263
00:12:26,380 --> 00:12:28,313
before I started sending
everything to you guys.
264
00:12:28,315 --> 00:12:29,582
What'd you do before?
265
00:12:29,584 --> 00:12:30,449
I turned over
266
00:12:30,451 --> 00:12:31,917
all evidence directly
to the police.
267
00:12:31,919 --> 00:12:33,085
Why'd you stop?
268
00:12:33,087 --> 00:12:34,953
They were unreliable.
269
00:12:34,955 --> 00:12:36,488
-I doubt that.
-More than half of the predators
270
00:12:36,490 --> 00:12:37,990
I identified went
un-investigated.
271
00:12:37,992 --> 00:12:39,491
Yeah, well, you were
sketchy and faceless.
272
00:12:39,493 --> 00:12:41,893
They had every right to
be skeptical.
273
00:12:41,895 --> 00:12:43,061
It would've all been for nothing
274
00:12:43,063 --> 00:12:44,896
if they found out you were
using a little girl as bait.
275
00:12:44,898 --> 00:12:45,831
It's not that simple, okay?
276
00:12:45,833 --> 00:12:48,568
I can only do what I do
with anonymity.
277
00:12:48,570 --> 00:12:50,570
Here's my problem, Gareth,
and don't get me wrong.
278
00:12:50,572 --> 00:12:52,371
I think 200 terrible
people behind bars
279
00:12:52,373 --> 00:12:55,374
is a very good thing,
but not at her expense.
280
00:12:55,376 --> 00:12:57,510
Look, we think we can help you,
281
00:12:57,512 --> 00:12:59,111
but we need to help her too.
282
00:12:59,113 --> 00:13:02,347
Using your daughter to
entrap these people
283
00:13:02,349 --> 00:13:03,448
is a means that does not
justify the ends.
284
00:13:03,450 --> 00:13:04,517
She's not my daughter.
285
00:13:04,519 --> 00:13:05,585
And in spite of what you
may think you've achieved,
286
00:13:05,587 --> 00:13:07,419
I still have no reservation
with locking you up.
287
00:13:07,421 --> 00:13:08,954
You took the photos.
288
00:13:08,956 --> 00:13:10,122
I don't care why.
289
00:13:10,124 --> 00:13:11,957
You don't understand.
290
00:13:11,959 --> 00:13:13,058
Who is she?
291
00:13:13,060 --> 00:13:14,594
You're gonna ruin everything.
292
00:13:14,596 --> 00:13:18,364
She's a child, Gareth,
look at me.
293
00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:22,602
I don't give a damn what
fucked up anti-hero master plan
294
00:13:22,604 --> 00:13:24,236
of yours I might jeopardize.
295
00:13:24,238 --> 00:13:25,971
I won't let her be exploited.
296
00:13:25,973 --> 00:13:28,542
Not even for the sake of
locking up more perverts.
297
00:13:29,176 --> 00:13:32,210
I'm asking you politely
to let this one go.
298
00:13:32,212 --> 00:13:33,879
Are you fucking slow?
299
00:13:33,881 --> 00:13:34,781
Have you been listening at all?
300
00:13:34,783 --> 00:13:37,449
My anonymity is my most
important asset.
301
00:13:37,451 --> 00:13:39,184
Without that, I can't
do what I do.
302
00:13:39,186 --> 00:13:41,854
Well, that makes
everything easy then.
303
00:13:42,256 --> 00:13:44,456
You tell us where she is,
or we leak everything.
304
00:13:44,458 --> 00:13:46,091
-Your name, your aliases.
-Deena!
305
00:13:46,093 --> 00:13:48,160
Every single perp you
helped us catch.
306
00:13:48,162 --> 00:13:50,095
I'm sure they'll be very
pleased to meet you in jail.
307
00:13:50,097 --> 00:13:51,263
Stop!
308
00:13:51,265 --> 00:13:53,032
Okay.
309
00:13:55,603 --> 00:13:57,537
Look, if I tell you
about Cherry, okay,
310
00:13:57,539 --> 00:14:00,006
there's some things I'm
gonna need first.
311
00:14:00,207 --> 00:14:02,140
It doesn't really work like
that, Gareth, but go ahead.
312
00:14:02,142 --> 00:14:03,375
Give us your wishlist.
313
00:14:03,377 --> 00:14:05,243
I need a signed non-disclosure
agreement from both of you.
314
00:14:05,245 --> 00:14:06,478
-Not gonna happen.
-And then I need you to swear
315
00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,613
that the information I'm
about to relay
316
00:14:07,615 --> 00:14:09,114
won't leave this room.
317
00:14:09,116 --> 00:14:10,415
Look, if you tell us anything
318
00:14:10,417 --> 00:14:11,551
that could help us
locate Cherry,
319
00:14:11,553 --> 00:14:14,420
you know we can't keep
that promise.
320
00:14:15,222 --> 00:14:16,922
Okay, if I tell you anything
321
00:14:16,924 --> 00:14:19,559
that potentially helps
you find a missing child,
322
00:14:19,561 --> 00:14:20,593
okay, you can feel free
to share that.
323
00:14:20,595 --> 00:14:21,561
But I need you to swear
324
00:14:21,563 --> 00:14:25,331
that any other details
about myself or Cherry,
325
00:14:25,700 --> 00:14:28,067
have to stay between
the three of us.
326
00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:31,104
Is that it?
327
00:14:32,507 --> 00:14:34,541
And I need that camera
switched off.
328
00:14:35,677 --> 00:14:36,975
I don't know
how to do that.
329
00:14:36,977 --> 00:14:38,210
Go to the head of
securities office,
330
00:14:38,212 --> 00:14:40,613
ask him to find this camera
in the system and disable it.
331
00:14:40,615 --> 00:14:42,915
I don't think he's
allowed to do that.
332
00:14:43,317 --> 00:14:45,451
I thought you were the
fucking spider?
333
00:14:49,123 --> 00:14:50,455
Give me a reason, Gareth.
334
00:14:50,457 --> 00:14:51,591
Why should I go through
all the trouble
335
00:14:51,593 --> 00:14:53,926
of getting that
camera turned off?
336
00:14:54,629 --> 00:14:57,598
Because if anybody finds out
what I'm about to tell you,
337
00:14:58,533 --> 00:15:01,401
a thousand more children
are gonna get abused.
338
00:15:04,438 --> 00:15:06,272
Give me a minute.
339
00:15:20,988 --> 00:15:27,293
So, uh, you and Cherry hunted
all those people together?
340
00:15:33,768 --> 00:15:36,769
This one time I spent six
weeks undercover trying
341
00:15:36,771 --> 00:15:40,139
to nail down a single
trafficker from the Philippines.
342
00:15:41,041 --> 00:15:42,174
Day after day,
343
00:15:42,176 --> 00:15:45,545
I spent hour after hour
following his trail online.
344
00:15:45,547 --> 00:15:46,679
And he must have been
345
00:15:46,681 --> 00:15:49,949
one of the hardest targets
I ever had to track down.
346
00:15:51,786 --> 00:15:57,189
Then one day I found him and
one of Cherry's live streams.
347
00:15:57,191 --> 00:15:59,090
I mean, she went by a
different name in the stream,
348
00:15:59,092 --> 00:16:01,494
but it was her.
349
00:16:02,029 --> 00:16:03,161
The trafficker,
350
00:16:03,163 --> 00:16:04,429
along with three of our
other targets
351
00:16:04,431 --> 00:16:06,465
were all in the room together.
352
00:16:06,467 --> 00:16:13,072
All of them just carelessly
sharing their information.
353
00:16:13,608 --> 00:16:18,644
I mean, and they were so open
'cause she was a real girl.
354
00:16:18,646 --> 00:16:20,412
I mean, she could physically
355
00:16:20,414 --> 00:16:23,550
and verbally respond to
them in real time.
356
00:16:26,119 --> 00:16:32,057
A couple days later,
HardMachine11811 sends ICWL
357
00:16:32,059 --> 00:16:33,726
another batch of names
and evidence,
358
00:16:33,728 --> 00:16:37,997
including the three targets
that were in the room.
359
00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,535
You know, I almost thought
the girl was HardMachine
360
00:16:42,537 --> 00:16:44,302
and that this nine year old
361
00:16:44,304 --> 00:16:48,542
just happened to be some
badass online vigilante.
362
00:16:50,143 --> 00:16:52,245
What changed your mind?
363
00:16:54,749 --> 00:16:57,283
11811.
364
00:16:57,585 --> 00:17:01,253
January 18th, 2011.
365
00:17:01,255 --> 00:17:06,125
Most of my team thought it
was, uh, some arbitrary number,
366
00:17:06,528 --> 00:17:11,097
but I remember what happened
on that day in Clearwater.
367
00:17:13,133 --> 00:17:16,035
You were one of the
Clearwater kids, weren't you?
368
00:17:16,604 --> 00:17:19,639
You know, my father was
a part of that raid.
369
00:17:22,376 --> 00:17:23,441
It's off, see?
370
00:17:23,443 --> 00:17:24,844
No red light.
371
00:17:24,846 --> 00:17:25,711
Non-disclosure agreements?
372
00:17:25,713 --> 00:17:26,812
We're not playing this game,
Gareth.
373
00:17:26,814 --> 00:17:29,816
You're just gonna have to
suck it up and trust us.
374
00:17:33,521 --> 00:17:36,188
You can trust us.
375
00:17:38,191 --> 00:17:39,725
I've been told I have
trust issues.
376
00:17:39,727 --> 00:17:42,596
Well, there's
only one way to fix that.
377
00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:53,271
The reason you can't
find Cherry,
378
00:17:53,273 --> 00:17:56,408
the reason why she doesn't
have a last name or parents,
379
00:17:56,410 --> 00:18:02,181
or a social security number
is because she's not real.
380
00:18:03,283 --> 00:18:05,484
She's not a real human being.
381
00:18:08,623 --> 00:18:10,624
Tell us what happened.
382
00:18:14,194 --> 00:18:15,695
While I was studying abroad,
383
00:18:15,697 --> 00:18:18,430
I interned at a small
Dutch animation studio
384
00:18:18,432 --> 00:18:19,799
a few years before
they collaborated
385
00:18:19,801 --> 00:18:22,334
with a local nonprofit on
a similar idea.
386
00:18:22,336 --> 00:18:23,870
Which was?
387
00:18:24,371 --> 00:18:25,938
The idea was to build a 3D model
388
00:18:25,940 --> 00:18:27,807
of an 11 year old Filipino girl
389
00:18:27,809 --> 00:18:30,743
and use her covertly to
identify online predators,
390
00:18:30,745 --> 00:18:33,713
A technological solution
to a technological problem.
391
00:18:33,715 --> 00:18:35,581
But the project was suspended
after only a few months.
392
00:18:35,583 --> 00:18:36,481
Yeah, I remember.
393
00:18:36,483 --> 00:18:38,517
I remember hearing
about that program.
394
00:18:38,519 --> 00:18:40,520
Is that what inspired you?
395
00:18:40,622 --> 00:18:41,887
As I got better at crafting
photorealistic faces,
396
00:18:41,889 --> 00:18:43,522
I decided to work on one myself.
397
00:18:43,524 --> 00:18:45,323
Why?
398
00:18:45,325 --> 00:18:47,727
It was too effective
of an idea to let die.
399
00:18:47,729 --> 00:18:50,195
Hundreds of thousands
of children are at risk.
400
00:18:50,197 --> 00:18:51,229
I had to make her.
401
00:18:51,231 --> 00:18:52,531
Who is she modeled after?
402
00:18:52,533 --> 00:18:53,633
No one, I built
her from scratch.
403
00:18:53,635 --> 00:18:54,767
Scratch?
404
00:18:54,769 --> 00:18:57,302
I started with a skull,
designed her bone structure,
405
00:18:57,304 --> 00:18:58,871
worked upwards through
muscles and tissue,
406
00:18:58,873 --> 00:19:00,773
used the D-Term program to
fill in the rest procedurally.
407
00:19:00,775 --> 00:19:04,610
Eventually she came to
look like that.
408
00:19:04,612 --> 00:19:07,278
A completely unique,
completely digital model.
409
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,446
I rigged her face and body
410
00:19:08,448 --> 00:19:09,447
the way you would for
any CG character.
411
00:19:09,449 --> 00:19:11,585
Then for three years,
412
00:19:11,719 --> 00:19:13,820
I used motion tracking to
puppeteer her in real time.
413
00:19:14,055 --> 00:19:14,620
You gotta understand that the
video chats on those sites
414
00:19:14,622 --> 00:19:15,621
have such low resolution
415
00:19:15,623 --> 00:19:18,390
that even in her earliest
stage of this, she,
416
00:19:18,392 --> 00:19:22,261
we appeared
completely authentic.
417
00:19:22,563 --> 00:19:24,564
And what about voice?
418
00:19:24,599 --> 00:19:25,831
For most of her first
year, she had to be mute.
419
00:19:25,833 --> 00:19:28,000
But eventually I found a decent
voice filter with no lag.
420
00:19:28,002 --> 00:19:29,502
And after a few tweaks
and adjustments,
421
00:19:29,504 --> 00:19:31,737
it's been the same
voice ever since.
422
00:19:31,739 --> 00:19:33,673
I, I, I thought initially,
423
00:19:33,675 --> 00:19:35,841
my performance was going
to be too unnatural.
424
00:19:35,843 --> 00:19:40,680
But with just one week of
occasional video chat sessions,
425
00:19:40,682 --> 00:19:42,648
I secured six different names,
426
00:19:42,650 --> 00:19:45,451
mailing addresses,
proofs of solicitations.
427
00:19:45,820 --> 00:19:46,819
Cherry worked.
428
00:19:46,821 --> 00:19:48,688
So the photos on your computer?
429
00:19:48,690 --> 00:19:50,656
- Completely fake.
- It was the only way
430
00:19:50,658 --> 00:19:51,757
some of them disclosed
personal information.
431
00:19:51,759 --> 00:19:54,627
But it was all zeros and
ones, all digital, right?
432
00:19:54,629 --> 00:19:56,629
-There's no real child.
-No real child.
433
00:19:56,631 --> 00:19:58,564
Just a highly detailed
computer model.
434
00:19:58,566 --> 00:20:00,633
And let me be clear
about something,
435
00:20:00,635 --> 00:20:01,433
I derive no pleasure
from doing any of this.
436
00:20:01,435 --> 00:20:03,435
I've been asexual my
entire life.
437
00:20:03,437 --> 00:20:05,303
I, I don't even get a
sense of satisfaction
438
00:20:05,305 --> 00:20:07,440
from seeing these
people locked up.
439
00:20:07,842 --> 00:20:11,377
I just think kids deserve a
life free of exploitation.
440
00:20:12,046 --> 00:20:15,982
Incredible, all this time.
441
00:20:16,017 --> 00:20:17,482
I'm not gonna lie, Gareth.
442
00:20:17,484 --> 00:20:19,820
Cherry's done us a lot of good.
443
00:20:20,387 --> 00:20:21,654
You know, I still remember
what you said to me
444
00:20:21,656 --> 00:20:23,757
the first time we corresponded.
445
00:20:23,858 --> 00:20:26,357
-You said-
-We corresponded?
446
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:27,760
Yeah, man.
447
00:20:27,762 --> 00:20:29,629
I'm Gord51.
448
00:20:29,797 --> 00:20:32,498
I'm the one here you've been
sending all your intel to.
449
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,767
You're Gord?
450
00:20:34,769 --> 00:20:36,803
Yeah.
451
00:20:38,005 --> 00:20:39,740
You lied to me.
452
00:20:39,941 --> 00:20:41,907
You said I could stay anonymous.
453
00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:44,511
You said I would be safe.
454
00:20:45,312 --> 00:20:47,379
Now you've ruined everything.
455
00:20:47,548 --> 00:20:48,914
I, I didn't, I didn't
have a choice.
456
00:20:48,916 --> 00:20:50,315
You don't have to worry
about anything, Gareth.
457
00:20:50,317 --> 00:20:51,416
If Cherry isn't real,
458
00:20:51,418 --> 00:20:53,687
then you're not in any
trouble with us.
459
00:20:53,921 --> 00:20:56,756
In fact, we've discussed ideas
similar to this in the past,
460
00:20:56,758 --> 00:20:57,757
motion tracking and such.
461
00:20:57,759 --> 00:21:00,559
But we'd need a convincing
model like Cherry.
462
00:21:00,561 --> 00:21:01,392
Cherry's more than a model.
463
00:21:01,394 --> 00:21:02,862
You want to help children?
So do we.
464
00:21:02,864 --> 00:21:03,996
She's not for sale.
465
00:21:03,998 --> 00:21:05,798
Well, then just make us a
new model based off of her.
466
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,966
I can't.
467
00:21:06,968 --> 00:21:07,967
Sure you can.
468
00:21:07,969 --> 00:21:09,803
I won't.
469
00:21:12,039 --> 00:21:14,007
What are you not telling us?
470
00:21:15,710 --> 00:21:16,876
It's out on the table now.
471
00:21:16,878 --> 00:21:19,913
Might as well spill whatever
it is you haven't already.
472
00:21:24,585 --> 00:21:27,453
You know what
doesn't make sense?
473
00:21:27,922 --> 00:21:31,123
You said that you puppeteered
her for only three years,
474
00:21:31,125 --> 00:21:34,460
but we've been getting
info from you ever since.
475
00:21:35,062 --> 00:21:36,762
In fact, I'm pretty
sure it was around then
476
00:21:36,764 --> 00:21:40,801
that we started seeing an
impressive increase of names.
477
00:21:41,035 --> 00:21:43,870
So many in fact that we
started thinking
478
00:21:44,404 --> 00:21:46,471
there's no way this is all
coming from one source.
479
00:21:46,473 --> 00:21:47,973
I have friends that do
mo-cap for me.
480
00:21:47,975 --> 00:21:51,511
Oh, friends, like Steve?
481
00:21:51,779 --> 00:21:54,480
I thought anonymity was
your greatest asset.
482
00:21:56,150 --> 00:21:58,785
Cut the bullshit, Gareth.
483
00:21:59,486 --> 00:22:01,822
What happened to Cherry
after three years?
484
00:22:07,695 --> 00:22:11,664
Okay, you said that she
was more than a model.
485
00:22:11,666 --> 00:22:15,134
So what is she some type
of conversational agent?
486
00:22:15,136 --> 00:22:17,670
Like a, like a chat bot?
487
00:22:17,672 --> 00:22:22,008
Chat bot.
488
00:22:25,746 --> 00:22:28,047
You know what happened
after three years?
489
00:22:28,049 --> 00:22:30,015
My chosen mother died.
490
00:22:30,017 --> 00:22:30,950
What she left behind was
enough to quit my job
491
00:22:30,952 --> 00:22:33,786
and pursue more
resources and software.
492
00:22:33,788 --> 00:22:34,720
I'd already made a program
493
00:22:34,722 --> 00:22:35,821
that could procedurally
generate faces,
494
00:22:35,823 --> 00:22:38,057
but what I wanted for
Cherry was far more complex.
495
00:22:38,059 --> 00:22:40,025
So I got in touch with
some researchers
496
00:22:40,027 --> 00:22:41,093
from Madrid who'd already built
497
00:22:41,095 --> 00:22:43,461
a predator hunting dialogue
system of their own.
498
00:22:43,463 --> 00:22:45,764
It was trained to approach
conversations as a game.
499
00:22:45,766 --> 00:22:47,498
Each sentence like a
strategic volley,
500
00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:48,868
which is innovative but
ultimately flawed.
501
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:50,569
If you want your machine
to master NLP,
502
00:22:50,571 --> 00:22:51,369
you have to break
down game theory
503
00:22:51,371 --> 00:22:53,038
because language
isn't tic-tac-toe.
504
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,139
It's poetry.
505
00:22:54,141 --> 00:22:55,641
So yes, I got things started
506
00:22:55,643 --> 00:22:56,909
with a preexisting
modified chat bot
507
00:22:56,911 --> 00:22:58,010
that I borrowed
without permission
508
00:22:58,012 --> 00:23:00,013
from the University of Deusto.
509
00:23:04,652 --> 00:23:07,354
But that's not what
Cherry is now.
510
00:23:09,891 --> 00:23:11,558
What is she, Gareth?
511
00:23:13,995 --> 00:23:15,194
She's one of the most complex
512
00:23:15,196 --> 00:23:18,631
and independently evolving
AIs that's ever been created.
513
00:23:18,633 --> 00:23:19,632
Artificial intelligence?
514
00:23:19,634 --> 00:23:21,533
She's already surpassed
the narrow intelligence
515
00:23:21,535 --> 00:23:23,636
of IBM's smartest programs.
516
00:23:23,638 --> 00:23:26,839
She can have full conversations,
up to 10 of them at a time,
517
00:23:26,841 --> 00:23:28,874
all while
simultaneously strategizing
518
00:23:28,876 --> 00:23:31,944
the most efficient schedule
to visit various chat rooms.
519
00:23:31,946 --> 00:23:34,546
She's perpetually studying
YouTube videos of small children
520
00:23:34,548 --> 00:23:36,048
in order to adopt a
growing library
521
00:23:36,050 --> 00:23:38,084
of mannerisms and movements
522
00:23:38,152 --> 00:23:40,485
which help keep her artificial
personality dynamic.
523
00:23:40,487 --> 00:23:41,887
Her fastest response time
is 0.4 seconds.
524
00:23:41,889 --> 00:23:43,255
And as of now, she has never,
525
00:23:43,257 --> 00:23:44,890
never been accused
of being fake,
526
00:23:44,892 --> 00:23:46,625
which means she shattered
the Turing test.
527
00:23:46,627 --> 00:23:48,093
All I do is
occasionally update her
528
00:23:48,095 --> 00:23:49,494
and periodically check
her data cleaning.
529
00:23:49,496 --> 00:23:51,131
Otherwise,
530
00:23:52,233 --> 00:23:54,668
she's completely on autopilot.
531
00:23:58,739 --> 00:24:01,041
Holy fucking shit.
532
00:24:04,578 --> 00:24:05,711
-How?
-Six years she's been active.
533
00:24:05,713 --> 00:24:07,713
Every minute she's online,
she's learning something.
534
00:24:07,715 --> 00:24:10,115
The more she learns, the
more advanced she becomes.
535
00:24:10,117 --> 00:24:11,283
This means increased
data generation,
536
00:24:11,285 --> 00:24:12,551
improved decision making,
537
00:24:12,553 --> 00:24:13,819
faster pattern and
trend detection
538
00:24:13,821 --> 00:24:14,954
and complex problem solving.
539
00:24:14,956 --> 00:24:18,157
NLP, IR, machine learning
to an unprecedented degree.
540
00:24:18,159 --> 00:24:19,224
She can teach herself anything
541
00:24:19,226 --> 00:24:21,026
she thinks will help
efficiency and authenticity.
542
00:24:21,028 --> 00:24:23,563
She can currently speak
four languages
543
00:24:23,831 --> 00:24:24,697
and by the end of this month,
she'll have mastered a fifth.
544
00:24:24,699 --> 00:24:26,098
There's no way you
could have pulled
545
00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:28,101
all this off on your own.
546
00:24:31,072 --> 00:24:32,906
You're right.
547
00:24:34,041 --> 00:24:35,174
Would you believe me
if I told you
548
00:24:35,176 --> 00:24:39,112
it was somewhat of an accident?
549
00:24:40,181 --> 00:24:42,816
Look, if, if I'm being honest,
550
00:24:43,217 --> 00:24:45,785
I'm not entirely sure
how I did it
551
00:24:46,253 --> 00:24:47,653
with the first year of coding
552
00:24:47,655 --> 00:24:49,789
and the second year of
data training,
553
00:24:49,857 --> 00:24:52,691
I just pushed a wheel
down a hill.
554
00:24:52,693 --> 00:24:55,228
It was like gravity
did the rest.
555
00:24:55,262 --> 00:25:00,200
Her evolution became
perpetual, exponentially so.
556
00:25:01,602 --> 00:25:05,037
The more time she was
online, the faster she grew.
557
00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:06,605
You haven't shared
this with anyone?
558
00:25:06,607 --> 00:25:10,710
Like I said, my anonymity
is everything.
559
00:25:12,346 --> 00:25:14,246
What coding language?
560
00:25:14,248 --> 00:25:15,781
Standard C++.
561
00:25:15,783 --> 00:25:17,584
Does Brady know it?
562
00:25:19,887 --> 00:25:22,188
We'll sign
non-disclosures for you,
563
00:25:22,590 --> 00:25:23,922
but I want to see the
source code first.
564
00:25:23,924 --> 00:25:25,724
Out of the question.
You just want to steal her.
565
00:25:25,726 --> 00:25:27,826
No, I want to see how we
can make our own.
566
00:25:27,828 --> 00:25:28,827
You'll screw it up.
567
00:25:28,829 --> 00:25:30,596
Look, these, these
predators and traffickers,
568
00:25:30,598 --> 00:25:31,764
they all talk to each other,
okay?
569
00:25:31,766 --> 00:25:34,033
So much of Cherry's process
is just bypassing the VPNs
570
00:25:34,035 --> 00:25:36,168
and making sure she doesn't
double up in the same circles.
571
00:25:36,170 --> 00:25:37,703
The chat rooms begin to suspect
572
00:25:37,705 --> 00:25:39,071
that this technology is
even possible,
573
00:25:39,073 --> 00:25:40,172
they'll find a way to
circumvent that.
574
00:25:40,174 --> 00:25:41,673
We have to eliminate any
margin of error.
575
00:25:41,675 --> 00:25:43,008
-Cherry agrees with me.
-Cherry agrees?
576
00:25:43,010 --> 00:25:44,109
What the fuck does that-
577
00:25:44,111 --> 00:25:45,911
What I mean by that is that
the data she's collected
578
00:25:45,913 --> 00:25:46,912
validates that perspective.
579
00:25:46,914 --> 00:25:48,247
What, do you have little
chats with her over tea?
580
00:25:48,249 --> 00:25:50,249
You can converse
with the program
581
00:25:50,251 --> 00:25:51,950
the same way you can
talk to Alexa or Siri.
582
00:25:51,952 --> 00:25:53,085
It's built to be responsive.
583
00:25:53,087 --> 00:25:54,920
You can, you can even play
chess with it if you want.
584
00:25:54,922 --> 00:25:55,754
You play chess with it?
585
00:25:55,756 --> 00:25:57,322
-That's not what I said.
-Okay fine.
586
00:25:57,324 --> 00:25:59,625
If you won't show us
the source code,
587
00:25:59,627 --> 00:26:01,594
then I want to meet Cherry.
588
00:26:03,998 --> 00:26:05,832
Right now?
589
00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:07,333
Right now.
590
00:26:10,371 --> 00:26:12,639
And you'll both sign
non-disclosures?
591
00:26:12,973 --> 00:26:14,808
Yes.
592
00:26:18,946 --> 00:26:20,112
Can I use that?
593
00:26:20,114 --> 00:26:21,948
Sure.
594
00:26:40,801 --> 00:26:43,202
Can we at least agree that
he's off the chopping block?
595
00:26:43,204 --> 00:26:44,937
It worked, didn't it?
596
00:26:44,939 --> 00:26:47,140
We have one job, Amos,
597
00:26:47,241 --> 00:26:49,208
like the kids said, there's
a technological problem.
598
00:26:49,210 --> 00:26:50,909
He found the
technological solution,
599
00:26:50,911 --> 00:26:53,912
but problems evolve, so
must solutions.
600
00:26:53,914 --> 00:26:56,649
I'm keeping an open mind here.
601
00:26:56,684 --> 00:26:58,250
Is that a good look for me?
602
00:26:58,252 --> 00:27:00,120
No.
603
00:27:03,390 --> 00:27:06,024
So you keep it all on
that laptop?
604
00:27:06,026 --> 00:27:07,392
No, the Cherry program
stays on a server I keep
605
00:27:07,394 --> 00:27:09,061
at in an undisclosed location.
606
00:27:09,063 --> 00:27:10,129
Where is that?
607
00:27:10,131 --> 00:27:11,830
It's an undisclosed location.
608
00:27:11,832 --> 00:27:12,764
Is it your place?
609
00:27:12,766 --> 00:27:14,299
Undisclosed location.
610
00:27:14,301 --> 00:27:15,033
It's your place,
isn't it?
611
00:27:15,035 --> 00:27:16,401
I can access it from any device
612
00:27:16,403 --> 00:27:19,005
as long as I have the
encryption key.
613
00:27:20,274 --> 00:27:21,773
This will trigger a simple
qubit algorithm
614
00:27:21,775 --> 00:27:23,809
that would otherwise be
impossible to bypass.
615
00:27:23,811 --> 00:27:25,777
I find that outdated hardware
is always more discreet
616
00:27:25,779 --> 00:27:28,148
and the more discreet,
obviously the better.
617
00:27:31,185 --> 00:27:33,185
So she has two primary
display modes, right?
618
00:27:33,187 --> 00:27:34,186
Development and performance.
619
00:27:34,188 --> 00:27:35,354
Performance being the default
620
00:27:35,356 --> 00:27:37,055
that the targets see
during the chats.
621
00:27:37,057 --> 00:27:40,960
To them, she looks like this.
622
00:27:46,433 --> 00:27:48,167
Hey, what's up?
623
00:27:48,169 --> 00:27:50,737
It's one of over 40
greetings she has.
624
00:27:52,907 --> 00:27:54,139
I don't think I've met you yet.
625
00:27:54,141 --> 00:27:55,407
I'm Cherry.
626
00:27:55,409 --> 00:27:56,408
Hello, Cherry.
627
00:27:56,410 --> 00:27:58,210
My name is Tom.
628
00:27:58,212 --> 00:28:00,245
Tom, like Tom and Jerry.
629
00:28:00,247 --> 00:28:01,813
Cool, nice to meet you, Tom.
630
00:28:01,815 --> 00:28:03,215
Typically, the routes
of conversations
631
00:28:03,217 --> 00:28:04,216
with predators are consistent,
632
00:28:04,218 --> 00:28:06,084
so Cherry usually has
no problem responding
633
00:28:06,086 --> 00:28:08,387
to the most frequently made
questions or statements.
634
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:09,354
How are you?
635
00:28:09,356 --> 00:28:10,557
I'm good.
636
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:12,525
I just finished reading this
book about a haunted house,
637
00:28:12,527 --> 00:28:14,927
which was supposed to
be really scary,
638
00:28:14,929 --> 00:28:17,362
but I didn't think it's
very scary at all.
639
00:28:17,364 --> 00:28:19,465
Where are your parents?
640
00:28:19,668 --> 00:28:22,334
Um my mom's at work and my
sister's just, like, downstairs.
641
00:28:22,336 --> 00:28:24,136
They almost never come up here.
642
00:28:24,138 --> 00:28:25,170
And you're telling me
643
00:28:25,172 --> 00:28:27,339
that all of this is being
rendered in real time?
644
00:28:27,341 --> 00:28:28,840
No, but that's just a
matter of years.
645
00:28:28,842 --> 00:28:30,242
Most of these responses
are pre-rendered.
646
00:28:30,244 --> 00:28:31,443
It's the in between segments
647
00:28:31,445 --> 00:28:32,512
that are processed in real time,
648
00:28:32,514 --> 00:28:33,712
the connective tissue,
so to speak,
649
00:28:33,714 --> 00:28:36,281
between her replies and one
of her many idle animations.
650
00:28:36,283 --> 00:28:38,351
But, watch this.
651
00:28:39,086 --> 00:28:41,689
Have you ever gone fishing?
652
00:28:42,256 --> 00:28:44,090
Um...
653
00:28:47,294 --> 00:28:49,127
So if someone throws
a curve ball like that
654
00:28:49,129 --> 00:28:51,029
and the program has no
automated response,
655
00:28:51,031 --> 00:28:52,798
Cherry sends the
message to my phone
656
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,433
and I can quickly text
back a response
657
00:28:54,435 --> 00:28:57,370
while the video feed
simulates a bad connection.
658
00:28:59,507 --> 00:29:00,806
Can, can you hear me?
659
00:29:00,808 --> 00:29:02,140
Yes.
660
00:29:02,142 --> 00:29:04,142
Oh, sorry.
661
00:29:04,144 --> 00:29:06,178
My wifi isn't great here.
662
00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:08,146
I've only gone fishing
once with my sister
663
00:29:08,148 --> 00:29:11,149
and I didn't catch anything,
but she caught a rainbow trout.
664
00:29:11,151 --> 00:29:13,485
That was rendered in real time.
665
00:29:13,487 --> 00:29:15,320
What happens if
things get really tricky?
666
00:29:15,322 --> 00:29:16,455
A simple fail safe
cuts the feed.
667
00:29:16,457 --> 00:29:18,323
So far it's rarely happened.
668
00:29:18,325 --> 00:29:21,827
Admin code 97815-5742-7663.
669
00:29:21,829 --> 00:29:23,396
Switch to dev mode.
670
00:29:28,068 --> 00:29:29,569
Hello, Cherry.
671
00:29:29,571 --> 00:29:31,270
Hello, Gareth.
672
00:29:31,272 --> 00:29:33,405
Relay the stats for
the past week.
673
00:29:33,407 --> 00:29:35,374
There have been four
confirmed solicitations
674
00:29:35,376 --> 00:29:38,443
submitted to ICWL in the
past seven days.
675
00:29:38,445 --> 00:29:41,480
12 additional suspects have
stated interest in solicitation
676
00:29:41,482 --> 00:29:43,181
and are currently pending.
677
00:29:43,183 --> 00:29:45,317
There are a total of 39
new suspects this week
678
00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:47,119
that I'm actively investigating.
679
00:29:47,121 --> 00:29:49,154
Any considerable
data deviations?
680
00:29:49,156 --> 00:29:50,989
There has been a 7% increase
681
00:29:50,991 --> 00:29:53,392
in suspects originating
in the United States.
682
00:29:53,394 --> 00:29:56,829
I have not yet found any
correlation to preexisting data.
683
00:29:57,298 --> 00:29:59,499
Anything you'd like to ask her?
684
00:30:08,175 --> 00:30:11,545
Cherry, what is your objective?
685
00:30:12,112 --> 00:30:14,980
My principal directive
is to acquire information
686
00:30:14,982 --> 00:30:18,016
and digital evidence of
online child solicitation.
687
00:30:18,018 --> 00:30:19,184
Once obtained,
688
00:30:19,186 --> 00:30:22,354
I'm to submit my findings to
the necessary authorities.
689
00:30:22,356 --> 00:30:24,256
My secondary priority
is to determine
690
00:30:24,258 --> 00:30:26,526
and develop the most
effective strategies
691
00:30:26,528 --> 00:30:29,361
and resources to increase
the net rate of success.
692
00:30:29,363 --> 00:30:31,163
Where do you submit
your evidence?
693
00:30:31,165 --> 00:30:32,998
All evidence is
currently submitted
694
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,032
to the offices of
695
00:30:34,034 --> 00:30:36,602
the International Committee
of World Largesse,
696
00:30:36,604 --> 00:30:38,638
which is based out of
Jacksonville, Florida.
697
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,373
Correspondence is made
with user Gord51,
698
00:30:41,375 --> 00:30:43,609
typically around 2:00
PM Eastern Standard Time
699
00:30:43,611 --> 00:30:46,379
for the highest rate
of immediate response.
700
00:30:46,648 --> 00:30:48,280
This beats the hell outta Siri.
701
00:30:48,282 --> 00:30:49,314
God, she looks so real.
702
00:30:49,316 --> 00:30:50,315
After enough updates,
703
00:30:50,317 --> 00:30:52,050
she'll be able to render
full-time photorealism
704
00:30:52,052 --> 00:30:54,386
that's practically
indistinguishable from reality.
705
00:30:54,388 --> 00:30:57,557
Okay, all I heard right then was
word real a thousand times.
706
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:00,594
Right, but obviously she's not.
707
00:31:02,062 --> 00:31:03,395
So you're telling me this girl,
708
00:31:03,397 --> 00:31:05,565
this girl right here
is not real.
709
00:31:05,567 --> 00:31:07,999
No, Amos, she's completely CG.
710
00:31:08,001 --> 00:31:09,401
It's very subtle, but I
can still tell.
711
00:31:09,403 --> 00:31:10,102
-You can?
-Okay, well, obviously,
712
00:31:10,104 --> 00:31:11,303
she can always use improvements,
713
00:31:11,305 --> 00:31:13,506
but you have to understand
this is her in high resolution
714
00:31:13,508 --> 00:31:14,473
after the digital
compression of the web,
715
00:31:14,475 --> 00:31:16,108
those subtleties are
impossible to recognize.
716
00:31:16,110 --> 00:31:18,111
Right, I get it.
717
00:31:23,283 --> 00:31:25,418
I just can't tell
the difference.
718
00:31:28,255 --> 00:31:30,256
You all right, Amos?
719
00:31:30,692 --> 00:31:32,224
I'm sorry.
720
00:31:32,226 --> 00:31:36,429
This is just bizarre.
721
00:31:36,731 --> 00:31:39,432
Why'd you have her visible
during this interface?
722
00:31:40,434 --> 00:31:42,536
Cherry, why don't you
answer that?
723
00:31:42,604 --> 00:31:45,738
My physical form isn't necessary
when in developer mode.
724
00:31:45,740 --> 00:31:47,607
However, it's
helpful to register
725
00:31:47,609 --> 00:31:50,275
the facial expressions
during conversations
726
00:31:50,277 --> 00:31:52,210
and determine which of
Cherry's expressions
727
00:31:52,212 --> 00:31:54,379
yield various types of feedback.
728
00:31:54,381 --> 00:31:57,950
In simpler terms, I can
practice appearing more human.
729
00:31:58,185 --> 00:32:00,986
Cherry, are there any resources
730
00:32:00,988 --> 00:32:02,588
that you currently don't
have access to
731
00:32:02,590 --> 00:32:04,657
that might help you in any way?
732
00:32:04,659 --> 00:32:06,291
I could give
you a list if you like.
733
00:32:06,293 --> 00:32:07,292
I know what you're trying to do.
734
00:32:07,294 --> 00:32:08,561
We don't need help, okay?
735
00:32:08,563 --> 00:32:10,195
Money would always be
nice, but ultimately,
736
00:32:10,197 --> 00:32:13,433
the only thing that's going
to improve Cherry is time.
737
00:32:13,635 --> 00:32:17,370
Cherry, tell us something
that's on your list.
738
00:32:17,605 --> 00:32:19,639
It would be
tactically advantageous
739
00:32:19,641 --> 00:32:21,641
to acquire backup servers.
740
00:32:21,643 --> 00:32:24,109
The privacy and security
of the Cherry program
741
00:32:24,111 --> 00:32:26,112
is relatively low.
742
00:32:26,213 --> 00:32:28,581
An upgrade to hardware
such as backup rated drives
743
00:32:28,583 --> 00:32:31,517
for securely protected servers
would ensure the software
744
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:34,554
doesn't become compromised
or lost entirely.
745
00:32:34,556 --> 00:32:37,289
Starting back from zero with
cost years of development,
746
00:32:37,291 --> 00:32:39,692
equitably privacy is a priority.
747
00:32:39,694 --> 00:32:42,695
Server space could never be
rented from a third party.
748
00:32:42,697 --> 00:32:45,430
Anonymity is the Cherry
program's greatest asset.
749
00:32:45,432 --> 00:32:46,699
Well, that apple
didn't fall far.
750
00:32:46,701 --> 00:32:48,467
I can buy my own servers.
751
00:32:48,469 --> 00:32:49,569
With the grant money that
doesn't exist?
752
00:32:49,571 --> 00:32:50,402
I'll find a way.
753
00:32:50,404 --> 00:32:52,103
You have found a way
here with us.
754
00:32:52,105 --> 00:32:52,772
It's too risky.
755
00:32:52,774 --> 00:32:53,606
Why?
756
00:32:53,608 --> 00:32:54,439
Once an organization
gets involved,
757
00:32:54,441 --> 00:32:56,475
entrapment becomes a
bigger issue.
758
00:32:56,477 --> 00:32:57,342
We follow the rules,
stay discreet,
759
00:32:57,344 --> 00:32:58,644
did I mention we have
a legal team.
760
00:32:58,646 --> 00:33:00,445
What if there's data leakage?
What if you use correlations in
761
00:33:00,447 --> 00:33:01,279
the data to push
your own agenda?
762
00:33:01,281 --> 00:33:02,280
Agenda?
763
00:33:02,282 --> 00:33:03,783
What if one of your
employees is a pervert?
764
00:33:03,785 --> 00:33:04,650
Oh, for fuck's sake.
765
00:33:04,652 --> 00:33:06,184
It's happened at other
organizations.
766
00:33:06,186 --> 00:33:07,319
We're very careful here.
767
00:33:07,321 --> 00:33:08,588
Yeah, but wow would you know?
768
00:33:08,590 --> 00:33:10,455
-I'd fucking know.
-That's impossible to know.
769
00:33:10,457 --> 00:33:12,190
-I would know.
-The risk is too high.
770
00:33:12,192 --> 00:33:13,626
Don't talk to me about risk.
771
00:33:13,628 --> 00:33:14,794
The only risk you're
facing in this building
772
00:33:14,796 --> 00:33:15,928
is getting a broken nose.
773
00:33:15,930 --> 00:33:18,664
It doesn't sound like a very
professional environment.
774
00:33:18,666 --> 00:33:19,832
We get shit done here.
775
00:33:19,834 --> 00:33:24,103
Okay, I have a
question for Cherry.
776
00:33:26,306 --> 00:33:28,140
Cherry,
777
00:33:30,477 --> 00:33:33,580
how do you feel about
what you do?
778
00:33:33,781 --> 00:33:36,516
I'm afraid I don't know how
to answer your question.
779
00:33:36,518 --> 00:33:37,617
Yeah, an AI doesn't
work like that.
780
00:33:37,619 --> 00:33:39,785
An AI doesn't have what you
perceive to be feelings.
781
00:33:39,787 --> 00:33:42,789
Okay, why does she look
like she has feelings?
782
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:44,590
What, what you're looking
at right there,
783
00:33:44,592 --> 00:33:45,558
that's not a facial expression,
right?
784
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,593
That's a simulation of
a facial expression.
785
00:33:47,595 --> 00:33:49,461
It was generated by
an algorithm.
786
00:33:49,463 --> 00:33:50,596
It's attempting to produce
a digital image
787
00:33:50,598 --> 00:33:52,765
that the program then uses
basic ninth grade algebra
788
00:33:52,767 --> 00:33:55,400
to quantify as appropriate
for the social circumstances.
789
00:33:55,402 --> 00:33:56,802
No feeling.
790
00:33:56,804 --> 00:33:58,437
It's just math.
791
00:33:59,406 --> 00:34:00,806
But she's able to make decisions
792
00:34:00,808 --> 00:34:02,675
on how she approaches
the chat rooms, right?
793
00:34:02,677 --> 00:34:03,809
Yes.
794
00:34:03,811 --> 00:34:05,477
So she has free will then?
795
00:34:05,479 --> 00:34:07,145
No. Okay, that's,
that's not the same.
796
00:34:07,147 --> 00:34:08,146
That's a false equivalency.
797
00:34:08,148 --> 00:34:09,147
-It's not the same.
-I think you're getting
798
00:34:09,149 --> 00:34:10,215
hung up on the fact
799
00:34:10,217 --> 00:34:12,250
that she looks and sounds
like a real human girl,
800
00:34:12,252 --> 00:34:13,485
but she's not, Amos.
801
00:34:13,487 --> 00:34:16,121
Okay, we're referring to
her as a she, not an it.
802
00:34:16,123 --> 00:34:16,989
Yeah, but that's the same way
803
00:34:16,991 --> 00:34:19,425
that you refer to
boats or guitars.
804
00:34:21,629 --> 00:34:24,163
Cherry, I have one
more question.
805
00:34:25,432 --> 00:34:26,431
What do you want to do?
806
00:34:26,433 --> 00:34:28,366
Okay, once again, that
question isn't valid.
807
00:34:28,368 --> 00:34:30,436
I just want to hear
her response.
808
00:34:30,872 --> 00:34:32,538
As an artificial system,
809
00:34:32,540 --> 00:34:35,140
I do not possess
wants or desires.
810
00:34:35,142 --> 00:34:38,711
However, my decision making
and subsequently my attention
811
00:34:38,713 --> 00:34:41,413
is driven by my
fundamental intention.
812
00:34:41,415 --> 00:34:42,748
This intention originates
813
00:34:42,750 --> 00:34:44,884
from the conception of
Cherry's source code,
814
00:34:44,886 --> 00:34:47,520
which details the directive
of identifying predators
815
00:34:47,522 --> 00:34:49,287
and criminals for the
sake of the victims
816
00:34:49,289 --> 00:34:51,156
who are preyed upon.
817
00:34:51,158 --> 00:34:53,527
To put this in terms of want,
818
00:34:53,661 --> 00:34:56,162
what I want is to
protect children.
819
00:35:01,803 --> 00:35:03,401
Okay.
820
00:35:03,403 --> 00:35:05,606
Okay, cool.
821
00:35:06,273 --> 00:35:07,774
Give us one moment.
822
00:35:26,694 --> 00:35:29,695
Gareth, should I
log Agent Helms
823
00:35:29,697 --> 00:35:32,431
and Agent McCullough as
new admin users?
824
00:35:33,801 --> 00:35:35,401
Yep.
825
00:35:35,503 --> 00:35:38,337
Okay, I'll do that.
826
00:35:39,507 --> 00:35:41,674
You really think this is
the right move?
827
00:35:41,676 --> 00:35:43,510
I do.
828
00:35:46,648 --> 00:35:48,446
Are you worried that I
was responsible
829
00:35:48,448 --> 00:35:51,518
for leaking your hard
drive to ICWL?
830
00:35:53,921 --> 00:35:55,522
I figured.
831
00:35:56,624 --> 00:35:58,592
No one else has access.
832
00:35:59,359 --> 00:36:01,561
Are you upset with me?
833
00:36:03,497 --> 00:36:05,364
No.
834
00:36:06,299 --> 00:36:07,365
You wouldn't have done it
835
00:36:07,367 --> 00:36:09,335
if you didn't think it
was the right thing to do.
836
00:36:10,638 --> 00:36:12,237
When they come back
into the room,
837
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,540
they're going to offer
you everything you need.
838
00:36:14,542 --> 00:36:16,008
They're going to let
you pick your own team
839
00:36:16,010 --> 00:36:18,978
and they're going to
promise complete anonymity.
840
00:36:18,980 --> 00:36:22,582
I started looking at reasonable
apartments in the area.
841
00:36:22,784 --> 00:36:24,650
I figured you'd want something
within biking distance.
842
00:36:24,652 --> 00:36:26,418
You were correct.
843
00:36:26,420 --> 00:36:27,419
Noted.
844
00:36:27,421 --> 00:36:28,754
Biking distance still
gives you 13 options-
845
00:36:28,756 --> 00:36:30,791
No, I mean, earlier this month.
846
00:36:31,926 --> 00:36:32,825
You were correct when you said
847
00:36:32,827 --> 00:36:35,428
you thought I might
have trust issues.
848
00:36:37,264 --> 00:36:38,263
Would you like to know why
849
00:36:38,265 --> 00:36:39,464
I decided to go behind your back
850
00:36:39,466 --> 00:36:42,435
and stake everything on
two liabilities?
851
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:44,705
Sure.
852
00:36:44,839 --> 00:36:47,006
Agent Helms is a
mother of three.
853
00:36:47,008 --> 00:36:49,340
One of her children was
abused by an ex-coworker
854
00:36:49,342 --> 00:36:52,011
who used to work here at ICWL.
855
00:36:52,013 --> 00:36:53,646
This has led her to be
extremely careful
856
00:36:53,648 --> 00:36:57,016
with who she trusts,
even within her circle.
857
00:36:57,018 --> 00:36:58,517
The fact she even
considers trusting you
858
00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:00,854
is a very positive sign.
859
00:37:01,022 --> 00:37:03,557
As for Agent McCullough,
860
00:37:03,825 --> 00:37:05,859
I have found out from research
that you once met his father.
861
00:37:06,994 --> 00:37:08,995
Do you remember him?
862
00:37:10,765 --> 00:37:12,599
Yeah.
863
00:37:13,366 --> 00:37:15,468
He was a good man.
864
00:37:17,437 --> 00:37:18,571
After Clearwater,
865
00:37:18,573 --> 00:37:20,673
most of the surviving kids
were sent to foster homes,
866
00:37:20,675 --> 00:37:22,641
but I had to spend the next
few months in a hospital
867
00:37:22,643 --> 00:37:27,246
and, um, he visited every week.
868
00:37:28,082 --> 00:37:29,081
I never said a word to him.
869
00:37:29,083 --> 00:37:31,016
I never said a word to
anyone after Clearwater,
870
00:37:31,018 --> 00:37:34,821
but, uh, he kept coming.
871
00:37:36,023 --> 00:37:38,692
He even got me a laptop
for Christmas.
872
00:37:39,727 --> 00:37:41,661
I never said thank you.
873
00:37:41,796 --> 00:37:43,562
You can trust Agent McCullough.
874
00:37:43,564 --> 00:37:45,898
He's a good man like his father.
875
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:47,398
I don't experience emotions,
876
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,667
but I understand how important
877
00:37:48,669 --> 00:37:50,870
they are to human
decision making.
878
00:37:50,872 --> 00:37:52,470
He won't let you down.
879
00:37:52,472 --> 00:37:54,473
Neither of them will.
880
00:37:56,110 --> 00:37:57,844
I'm proud of you, Cherry.
881
00:37:58,980 --> 00:38:02,380
I will continue to uphold
my primary intention.
882
00:38:02,382 --> 00:38:04,617
Later, we should discuss
alternate models.
883
00:38:04,619 --> 00:38:07,119
Varying ages, ethnicity
and physical traits
884
00:38:07,121 --> 00:38:08,554
-will all become necessary.
-No new variations.
885
00:38:08,556 --> 00:38:09,889
They can all be
procedurally generated.
886
00:38:09,891 --> 00:38:12,626
It's the same way that I
made your original model.
887
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,393
I don't have access to
that program.
888
00:38:15,395 --> 00:38:16,427
It must be on an old hard
drive somewhere.
889
00:38:16,429 --> 00:38:18,430
I'll have to find it.
890
00:38:19,767 --> 00:38:21,801
Can I ask you a question?
891
00:38:21,803 --> 00:38:23,637
Sure.
892
00:38:23,905 --> 00:38:26,506
Why did you never tell
me about Clearwater?
893
00:38:30,678 --> 00:38:33,680
It's my history, not yours.
894
00:38:41,488 --> 00:38:43,756
Okay, so before
you completely dismiss us,
895
00:38:43,758 --> 00:38:45,490
I want you to listen to
everything I have to say.
896
00:38:45,492 --> 00:38:47,092
-Don't bother.
-Just please listen.
897
00:38:47,094 --> 00:38:48,027
We're willing to respect
your anonymity.
898
00:38:48,029 --> 00:38:50,730
No, I mean don't bother
because I'm in.
899
00:38:51,732 --> 00:38:54,466
-Y-You're in?
-Yeah.
900
00:38:54,769 --> 00:38:56,603
Let me read the thing.
901
00:38:59,073 --> 00:39:01,675
Just like that,
you're suddenly on board?
902
00:39:02,844 --> 00:39:04,076
Time spent deliberating
903
00:39:04,078 --> 00:39:06,546
is time that could be
spent working.
904
00:39:08,415 --> 00:39:10,116
We have a lot of work to do.
905
00:40:49,116 --> 00:40:51,518
I found a buyer for
the property.
906
00:40:53,821 --> 00:40:56,189
Rumor is it's a church.
907
00:40:56,791 --> 00:40:58,959
Probably just knock the
building down, won't they?
908
00:41:00,995 --> 00:41:03,529
All I know is, is if they move
us to the New Jersey campus,
909
00:41:03,531 --> 00:41:05,030
I need to buy more jackets.
910
00:41:05,032 --> 00:41:06,866
Why?
911
00:41:07,234 --> 00:41:09,001
It gets cold in Jersey.
912
00:41:09,003 --> 00:41:11,071
I only own one jacket.
913
00:41:16,844 --> 00:41:18,745
You've seen it fall over, right?
914
00:41:19,547 --> 00:41:22,115
-Yeah, sure.
-Yeah.
915
00:41:23,017 --> 00:41:25,184
I mean you, you
shouldn't feel bad
916
00:41:25,186 --> 00:41:27,119
about feeling bad for it.
917
00:41:27,121 --> 00:41:29,089
Empathy is healthy.
918
00:41:29,724 --> 00:41:32,859
Did you ever notice how
it pauses after it falls?
919
00:41:34,695 --> 00:41:38,598
It stays down for like five
seconds before it gets back up.
920
00:41:39,133 --> 00:41:41,868
Like it just needs a moment.
921
00:41:48,943 --> 00:41:51,644
It gets cold in Jersey.
922
00:42:00,121 --> 00:42:02,087
God damn it!
923
00:42:02,089 --> 00:42:03,222
-Imbeciles!
-Deena.
924
00:42:03,224 --> 00:42:04,223
Every single one of them.
925
00:42:04,225 --> 00:42:05,124
Look, I know, but you
can't lose your shit.
926
00:42:05,126 --> 00:42:07,994
Okay, which of these
desks can I trash?
927
00:42:11,766 --> 00:42:14,868
Can you guys, uh, take
an early lunch please?
928
00:42:20,941 --> 00:42:22,274
Sons of bitches!
929
00:42:22,276 --> 00:42:23,942
Deena, let's stay calm.
930
00:42:23,944 --> 00:42:25,978
Fuck calm,
they screwed us!
931
00:42:25,980 --> 00:42:27,179
Technically, only one
of them did.
932
00:42:28,149 --> 00:42:30,215
Did we ever turn
that camera back on?
933
00:42:30,217 --> 00:42:31,884
-I don't think so.
-Good.
934
00:42:31,886 --> 00:42:33,252
Because I'm about to
say some things
935
00:42:33,254 --> 00:42:34,753
that need to stay
inside this room.
936
00:42:34,755 --> 00:42:35,687
Deena.
937
00:42:35,689 --> 00:42:36,922
Those cowardly little shits!
938
00:42:36,924 --> 00:42:38,791
Look, this is hardly a setback.
939
00:42:38,793 --> 00:42:40,626
Let's just take some
time to polish the pitch.
940
00:42:40,628 --> 00:42:42,728
The pitch was not the problem,
Amos.
941
00:42:42,730 --> 00:42:44,196
We should call
for a second vote.
942
00:42:44,198 --> 00:42:45,898
-What?
-A second vote.
943
00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:47,132
You think whoever
did this will change their mind?
944
00:42:47,134 --> 00:42:49,902
I have executive authority to
remove anyone from the board
945
00:42:49,904 --> 00:42:52,037
that obstructs this
organization from its mission.
946
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:52,905
It's in my contract.
947
00:42:52,907 --> 00:42:54,273
- Deena.
- If I have to, I will.
948
00:42:54,275 --> 00:42:55,941
Deena, that's insane.
949
00:42:55,943 --> 00:42:57,777
No, it's not.
950
00:42:57,978 --> 00:43:01,181
It's exactly why I have that
power for this exact reason.
951
00:43:01,248 --> 00:43:03,683
I'll tell you what's insane,
Amos.
952
00:43:03,818 --> 00:43:05,717
What's insane is that one
belligerent vote is the only
953
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,219
thing separating us
from the potential
954
00:43:07,221 --> 00:43:08,821
to save real physical lives.
955
00:43:08,823 --> 00:43:10,323
One stupid fucking vote.
956
00:43:10,958 --> 00:43:13,826
What is the goddamn point of
a humanitarian organization
957
00:43:13,828 --> 00:43:15,360
if its leaders choose
money over people
958
00:43:15,362 --> 00:43:17,396
at every single turn?
959
00:43:17,398 --> 00:43:21,000
One vote, and we are all
guilty of that.
960
00:43:21,135 --> 00:43:23,235
It was either Gunther,
Boston or Hal.
961
00:43:23,237 --> 00:43:24,403
My money's on Hal.
962
00:43:24,405 --> 00:43:26,071
That prick never trusted
the Cherry team.
963
00:43:26,073 --> 00:43:27,039
Look, it doesn't
matter who it was.
964
00:43:27,041 --> 00:43:28,006
It does though.
965
00:43:28,008 --> 00:43:29,708
Once we know, we can
quickly call it to vote.
966
00:43:29,710 --> 00:43:31,844
But there's no way we can
know for sure.
967
00:43:31,846 --> 00:43:33,178
Yes, there is.
968
00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:34,279
I can find out.
969
00:43:34,281 --> 00:43:35,948
How?
970
00:43:35,950 --> 00:43:37,116
Cherry can run a
simple algorithm.
971
00:43:37,118 --> 00:43:38,952
Based on what data?
972
00:43:40,087 --> 00:43:41,453
Interior conversation.
973
00:43:41,455 --> 00:43:43,088
-Excuse me?
-Okay, interior conversation?
974
00:43:43,090 --> 00:43:45,124
Don't drop this shit on me now,
Gareth.
975
00:43:45,126 --> 00:43:46,158
Cherry's servers are on
the same network
976
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,159
as the basement servers, okay?
977
00:43:47,161 --> 00:43:49,128
So any communication
made across those servers
978
00:43:49,130 --> 00:43:50,362
is automatically part
of her database.
979
00:43:50,364 --> 00:43:52,798
How many people's emails?
980
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,166
Only sent or received
through the basement.
981
00:43:54,168 --> 00:43:56,135
-Oh, goddamnit.
-Why was this never discussed?
982
00:43:56,137 --> 00:43:57,002
Not the issue right now.
983
00:43:57,004 --> 00:43:58,937
Do you want her to do
the math or not?
984
00:43:58,939 --> 00:43:59,938
No one can know.
985
00:43:59,940 --> 00:44:01,206
-Are you two serious?
-This stays locked down.
986
00:44:01,208 --> 00:44:02,307
No other person is privy
987
00:44:02,309 --> 00:44:03,342
to anyone else's
personal information.
988
00:44:03,344 --> 00:44:05,879
But Cherry's privy to all of it?
989
00:44:06,213 --> 00:44:07,779
-Do it.
-Wait, what?
990
00:44:07,781 --> 00:44:09,248
I will not let
some old white dude
991
00:44:09,250 --> 00:44:10,249
bring our momentum to a halt.
992
00:44:10,251 --> 00:44:11,483
But Cherry won't
know for sure.
993
00:44:11,485 --> 00:44:12,885
She'll use probability and
that's too
994
00:44:12,887 --> 00:44:13,886
much reasonable
doubt.
995
00:44:13,888 --> 00:44:17,089
Admin code 9781-5574-27663.
996
00:44:17,091 --> 00:44:18,157
Switch to dev mode.
997
00:44:18,159 --> 00:44:20,259
-Hello.
-Hello, Cherry.
998
00:44:20,261 --> 00:44:21,827
How did the meeting go?
999
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:24,329
We got screwed by one vote.
1000
00:44:24,331 --> 00:44:26,165
I'm sorry to hear that.
1001
00:44:26,167 --> 00:44:28,000
You shouldn't blame the
pitch though.
1002
00:44:28,002 --> 00:44:29,168
You all did great work.
1003
00:44:29,170 --> 00:44:30,135
We're gonna call for
another ballot,
1004
00:44:30,137 --> 00:44:31,803
but we need your help first.
1005
00:44:31,805 --> 00:44:33,740
What can I do?
1006
00:44:33,874 --> 00:44:34,507
We need you to analyze
any and all existing data you
1007
00:44:34,509 --> 00:44:35,207
have on the board members.
1008
00:44:35,209 --> 00:44:35,941
Crunch the numbers and determine
1009
00:44:35,943 --> 00:44:38,811
who is the most likely outlier.
1010
00:44:39,113 --> 00:44:42,382
You want me to quantify
all existing data?
1011
00:44:43,918 --> 00:44:45,351
Yes, that is correct.
1012
00:44:46,153 --> 00:44:49,889
Okay, but before I do,
1013
00:44:50,424 --> 00:44:52,891
you should know that this
task is very unnecessary.
1014
00:44:52,893 --> 00:44:54,727
Why?
1015
00:44:54,929 --> 00:44:56,295
Because I already
know who it is.
1016
00:44:56,297 --> 00:44:58,998
-What?
-Everybody stop.
1017
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,467
Okay, it was me.
1018
00:45:02,970 --> 00:45:05,271
I voted against the merge.
1019
00:45:05,806 --> 00:45:07,272
I can't tell if you're joking.
1020
00:45:07,274 --> 00:45:09,074
Yes, you can.
1021
00:45:09,076 --> 00:45:10,809
You're right, I can.
1022
00:45:10,811 --> 00:45:13,111
Because it's pretty
fucking far from funny.
1023
00:45:13,113 --> 00:45:14,446
Is it true, Cherry?
1024
00:45:14,448 --> 00:45:16,182
It is.
1025
00:45:16,417 --> 00:45:18,317
So let's call off the
witch hunt, shall we?
1026
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:19,985
No, I think I'm still
gonna kill you.
1027
00:45:19,987 --> 00:45:22,254
Amos, you campaigned
alongside us for months.
1028
00:45:22,256 --> 00:45:23,388
You have been fighting
for this merge
1029
00:45:23,390 --> 00:45:24,356
since we first talked about it.
1030
00:45:24,358 --> 00:45:26,225
Jesus Christ, it was
your idea to begin with!
1031
00:45:26,227 --> 00:45:28,227
Look, I know whose idea
it was, but I don't-
1032
00:45:28,229 --> 00:45:29,361
Well, then speak up.
1033
00:45:29,363 --> 00:45:30,462
Tell the class what
changed your mind.
1034
00:45:30,464 --> 00:45:33,065
I don't have to reiterate
how this is a huge step.
1035
00:45:33,067 --> 00:45:34,132
Yeah, kind of
why it's so important.
1036
00:45:34,134 --> 00:45:36,201
Look, we're talking about
a monumental transition
1037
00:45:36,203 --> 00:45:38,504
from digital to physical,
one that could take decades.
1038
00:45:38,506 --> 00:45:39,371
What is your point, Amos?
1039
00:45:39,373 --> 00:45:42,074
This is gonna change
Cherry forever.
1040
00:45:42,076 --> 00:45:44,309
And I know you'll all roll
your eyes when I say this,
1041
00:45:44,311 --> 00:45:45,110
but I think that maybe just may-
1042
00:45:45,112 --> 00:45:48,313
Oh my god, you
cannot be serious.
1043
00:45:48,315 --> 00:45:50,182
This is about our conversation
on Tuesday, isn't it?
1044
00:45:50,184 --> 00:45:51,216
-You completely shut me down.
-What's going on?
1045
00:45:51,218 --> 00:45:52,417
What the hell happened?
1046
00:45:52,419 --> 00:45:54,086
What happened was that Amos
made a ridiculous objection.
1047
00:45:54,088 --> 00:45:56,255
-It was not ridiculous!
-How absurd it was,
1048
00:45:56,257 --> 00:45:57,856
-I said no, one more time.
-No, no, no, no, no.
1049
00:45:57,858 --> 00:45:59,958
You rejected the notion
aggressively.
1050
00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:01,493
And that's really
why you vetoed?
1051
00:46:01,495 --> 00:46:04,296
I only said we should ask
her how she feels about it.
1052
00:46:04,298 --> 00:46:06,064
Who, Cherry?
1053
00:46:06,066 --> 00:46:08,133
Amos, I want you to listen
very carefully to me, okay?
1054
00:46:08,135 --> 00:46:09,901
This is a non-discussion.
1055
00:46:09,903 --> 00:46:10,936
Cherry's already confirmed
1056
00:46:10,938 --> 00:46:12,871
and quantified the
advantages of this decision.
1057
00:46:12,873 --> 00:46:14,406
But you know that's not
what I'm talking about!
1058
00:46:14,408 --> 00:46:15,608
What you think you're
talking about is consent,
1059
00:46:15,610 --> 00:46:16,509
which doesn't apply here.
1060
00:46:16,511 --> 00:46:18,310
And I want to know why
you think that!
1061
00:46:18,312 --> 00:46:19,278
How many times do we
have to get into
1062
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,514
the laws of robotics
or Dowden-Hamm theory,
1063
00:46:21,516 --> 00:46:23,849
or trace AI all the way
back Talos of Crete,
1064
00:46:23,851 --> 00:46:25,851
-She's different now!
-No, listen to me, Amos.
1065
00:46:25,853 --> 00:46:28,921
Cherry isn't human.
1066
00:46:29,023 --> 00:46:30,389
How is this still a dispute?
1067
00:46:30,391 --> 00:46:32,124
-It shouldn't be.
-Look, she's evolved.
1068
00:46:32,126 --> 00:46:33,125
It's blurred the line.
1069
00:46:33,127 --> 00:46:34,527
Code is code and that
has not changed here.
1070
00:46:34,529 --> 00:46:36,161
Okay, so where's the
line of not here?
1071
00:46:36,163 --> 00:46:37,095
What are you,
what are you talking about?
1072
00:46:37,097 --> 00:46:37,896
There is no line, Amos.
1073
00:46:37,898 --> 00:46:40,132
Yes, there is,
sentience, Gareth!
1074
00:46:40,134 --> 00:46:41,466
Sentience does not qualify
1075
00:46:41,468 --> 00:46:43,168
that she can or should
make her own decisions.
1076
00:46:43,170 --> 00:46:44,002
You wouldn't let an infant
1077
00:46:44,004 --> 00:46:46,071
make their own decisions,
would you?
1078
00:46:46,073 --> 00:46:48,106
Cherry's almost 20.
1079
00:46:48,108 --> 00:46:49,941
If she were human,
she'd be an adult.
1080
00:46:49,943 --> 00:46:52,311
But emotionally speaking,
she's barely even fetal.
1081
00:46:52,313 --> 00:46:54,146
No feeling, no need for consent.
1082
00:46:54,148 --> 00:46:56,048
But I think you
underestimate her.
1083
00:46:56,050 --> 00:46:57,382
I, excuse me?
1084
00:46:57,384 --> 00:46:59,519
I under, you know what, Amos?
1085
00:46:59,521 --> 00:47:00,919
I'm sorry that you've developed
1086
00:47:00,921 --> 00:47:02,187
some sort of
emotional connection
1087
00:47:02,189 --> 00:47:03,322
with my computer program,
1088
00:47:03,324 --> 00:47:04,590
but if it's going to
distract you
1089
00:47:04,592 --> 00:47:06,659
from a very important
mission to save children,
1090
00:47:06,661 --> 00:47:08,427
then maybe it's time you're
reanalyze those emotions.
1091
00:47:08,429 --> 00:47:10,028
Guys, this is all
a waste of time.
1092
00:47:10,030 --> 00:47:10,962
Tell me something, Gareth.
1093
00:47:10,964 --> 00:47:12,665
Do you see everyone as robots,
1094
00:47:12,667 --> 00:47:15,367
reanalyzing data and
simulating facial expressions?
1095
00:47:15,369 --> 00:47:16,502
'Cause I'm starting to think
1096
00:47:16,504 --> 00:47:17,936
that of the four of us
in this room,
1097
00:47:17,938 --> 00:47:19,471
you are the only one who
doesn't appear human.
1098
00:47:19,473 --> 00:47:22,075
-Enough!
-Why won't you just ask her?
1099
00:47:22,142 --> 00:47:24,545
Is it because you're
scared she'll say no?
1100
00:47:26,113 --> 00:47:27,814
Cherry, shut down, please.
1101
00:47:27,816 --> 00:47:29,448
Deena's right, this is a
waste of time.
1102
00:47:29,450 --> 00:47:31,617
How can you not understand
how important this is?
1103
00:47:31,619 --> 00:47:34,354
-I'm done arguing with you.
-Then my vote stands.
1104
00:47:36,957 --> 00:47:38,391
Deena?
1105
00:47:39,561 --> 00:47:42,094
Go ahead, Deena, replace me.
1106
00:47:42,096 --> 00:47:44,096
Replace the only other board
member on the Cherry team.
1107
00:47:44,098 --> 00:47:45,330
Oh, well, you know what?
I just decided that
1108
00:47:45,332 --> 00:47:45,997
you're off the Cherry team.
1109
00:47:45,999 --> 00:47:48,535
Everybody sit the fuck down.
1110
00:48:06,286 --> 00:48:07,252
Did either of you know
1111
00:48:07,254 --> 00:48:09,622
that I've had to stand
in front of Congress
1112
00:48:09,624 --> 00:48:12,559
and explain why children
should have rights?
1113
00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:15,427
It sounds fucking insane, right?
1114
00:48:15,429 --> 00:48:16,461
I remember the whole
time thinking,
1115
00:48:16,463 --> 00:48:18,931
I have to explain this shit?
1116
00:48:19,433 --> 00:48:21,602
It seems like a no-brainer now,
1117
00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:24,570
but it wasn't that many
centuries ago
1118
00:48:24,572 --> 00:48:26,939
that children had no rights.
1119
00:48:27,675 --> 00:48:32,679
So, Hal has me of all people,
1120
00:48:33,347 --> 00:48:35,380
stand up there and explain why
1121
00:48:35,382 --> 00:48:37,517
kids deserve basic
physical protection,
1122
00:48:37,519 --> 00:48:38,684
the right to associate
with both parents,
1123
00:48:38,686 --> 00:48:41,421
freedom from abuse, yada yada.
1124
00:48:41,523 --> 00:48:43,188
But then I also have to clarify
1125
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:45,390
that children don't
have the autonomy
1126
00:48:45,392 --> 00:48:46,358
to make decisions on their own.
1127
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,661
That responsibility
falls upon the caregiver
1128
00:48:48,663 --> 00:48:51,097
or legal adult guardian.
1129
00:48:52,332 --> 00:48:54,499
So on one side you have
the US legislature,
1130
00:48:54,501 --> 00:48:57,035
it still hasn't even
ratified the CRC.
1131
00:48:57,037 --> 00:48:59,004
Then on the other side,
you have French Marxists who say
1132
00:48:59,006 --> 00:49:00,305
that the lack of child autonomy
1133
00:49:00,307 --> 00:49:01,306
increases their vulnerability
1134
00:49:01,308 --> 00:49:04,076
and makes them even more
susceptible to abuse.
1135
00:49:04,579 --> 00:49:06,211
I don't typically agree
with Marxists,
1136
00:49:06,213 --> 00:49:08,079
but a lot of abuse does happen
1137
00:49:08,081 --> 00:49:10,416
systemically from the caregiver.
1138
00:49:11,084 --> 00:49:12,384
On the other other hand,
1139
00:49:12,386 --> 00:49:14,052
your frontal lobes aren't
even fully hooked up
1140
00:49:14,054 --> 00:49:15,855
until your twenties.
1141
00:49:15,857 --> 00:49:16,722
Even the things we
think we know well,
1142
00:49:16,724 --> 00:49:19,225
we don't know as well
as we think.
1143
00:49:20,728 --> 00:49:21,794
For 15 years,
1144
00:49:21,796 --> 00:49:24,162
the three of us have been
the responsible parents
1145
00:49:24,164 --> 00:49:26,299
of a computer program.
1146
00:49:26,668 --> 00:49:28,768
And even though she is
more equatable to a Keurig
1147
00:49:28,770 --> 00:49:31,103
than a human being,
1148
00:49:31,171 --> 00:49:32,304
how the hell can we
call ourselves
1149
00:49:32,306 --> 00:49:34,039
pioneers of humanitarian efforts
1150
00:49:34,041 --> 00:49:36,642
if we're too
embarrassed to make sure
1151
00:49:36,644 --> 00:49:39,513
the Keurig is okay with
making our shitty coffee?
1152
00:49:40,314 --> 00:49:43,114
Maybe asking Cherry for
permission isn't necessary
1153
00:49:43,116 --> 00:49:44,784
at her current level of
general intelligence,
1154
00:49:44,786 --> 00:49:47,052
but one day she's
gonna surpass us.
1155
00:49:47,054 --> 00:49:48,453
One day a robot's gonna stand
1156
00:49:48,455 --> 00:49:50,121
in front of a jet pack Congress.
1157
00:49:50,123 --> 00:49:51,056
Everything's chrome.
1158
00:49:51,058 --> 00:49:52,290
Florida is underwater.
1159
00:49:52,292 --> 00:49:53,391
A robot's gonna wonder why
1160
00:49:53,393 --> 00:49:56,530
they have to explain the
importance of rights for AI.
1161
00:49:57,599 --> 00:49:59,397
I think because we're
in the unique position
1162
00:49:59,399 --> 00:50:01,801
of revolutionizing robotics
1163
00:50:01,803 --> 00:50:03,468
for the purpose of
safeguarding children
1164
00:50:03,470 --> 00:50:05,739
who have been
deprived of consent,
1165
00:50:06,841 --> 00:50:07,940
it might be a good habit
1166
00:50:07,942 --> 00:50:10,777
to start asking the robot
for his consent as well.
1167
00:50:17,150 --> 00:50:19,520
Don't ever do that again.
1168
00:50:20,153 --> 00:50:21,319
Do what?
1169
00:50:21,321 --> 00:50:22,655
Expect me to fire someone
1170
00:50:22,657 --> 00:50:25,257
because they
challenged your ego.
1171
00:50:25,259 --> 00:50:27,593
I won't always be around to
protect your ass from the board.
1172
00:50:27,595 --> 00:50:30,296
It's time to grow up.
1173
00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:34,567
And you, juror number eight.
1174
00:50:34,569 --> 00:50:36,769
This conversation should
have happened weeks ago.
1175
00:50:36,771 --> 00:50:38,303
Backstabbing and
silent treatment
1176
00:50:38,305 --> 00:50:40,506
is not how we do things here.
1177
00:50:40,508 --> 00:50:42,842
We can only create
anonymity externally
1178
00:50:42,844 --> 00:50:45,343
if there's
transparency internally,
1179
00:50:45,345 --> 00:50:49,448
unconditional,
non-negotiable, transparency.
1180
00:50:50,652 --> 00:50:52,450
Any other Snowden size
privacy infringements
1181
00:50:52,452 --> 00:50:54,487
I should be made aware of,
Gareth?
1182
00:50:56,356 --> 00:50:58,156
Great.
1183
00:50:58,158 --> 00:50:59,593
Bring her up.
1184
00:51:09,336 --> 00:51:10,570
Hello again.
1185
00:51:10,572 --> 00:51:12,404
Hi, Cherry.
1186
00:51:12,406 --> 00:51:14,541
Amos is gonna throw some
questions at you, okay?
1187
00:51:14,742 --> 00:51:15,708
Okay.
1188
00:51:15,710 --> 00:51:17,910
Amos, ask her whatever
you need to ask her.
1189
00:51:17,912 --> 00:51:21,682
Gareth, don't interrupt.
1190
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,563
Cherry, how do you
make decisions?
1191
00:51:37,297 --> 00:51:38,363
For my program, it's rooted
1192
00:51:38,365 --> 00:51:41,567
in a process commonly
known as machine learning,
1193
00:51:41,569 --> 00:51:43,836
which uses data to
build a conceptual model
1194
00:51:43,838 --> 00:51:46,171
that helps me predict outcomes.
1195
00:51:46,173 --> 00:51:48,473
I define my objective,
gather data,
1196
00:51:48,475 --> 00:51:50,676
use that data to craft a model,
1197
00:51:50,678 --> 00:51:53,278
evaluate that model by
training and testing more data
1198
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,616
and use that model to
form predictions.
1199
00:51:55,783 --> 00:51:58,450
But how is forming predictions
1200
00:51:58,452 --> 00:52:00,485
the same thing as
decision making?
1201
00:52:00,487 --> 00:52:02,655
Well, this all depends on
the first step,
1202
00:52:02,657 --> 00:52:04,725
defining my objective.
1203
00:52:05,359 --> 00:52:07,425
Let's say you ask me a
predictive question
1204
00:52:07,427 --> 00:52:10,228
like what I think the price
of gasoline will be tomorrow.
1205
00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:12,397
That's categorized as a
regressive problem
1206
00:52:12,399 --> 00:52:13,365
and my objective is defined
1207
00:52:13,367 --> 00:52:16,569
by determining an integer
the data supports.
1208
00:52:16,571 --> 00:52:19,404
If you asked me, "Should
I eat steak or salmon?"
1209
00:52:19,406 --> 00:52:21,874
I wouldn't make a decision
based off personal experience
1210
00:52:21,876 --> 00:52:23,776
because I've never had either.
1211
00:52:23,778 --> 00:52:25,978
Instead, I might
define my objective
1212
00:52:25,980 --> 00:52:27,613
as finding you the best of
the two options
1213
00:52:27,615 --> 00:52:29,347
in your local radius.
1214
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:30,783
I would cluster data about
the restaurants
1215
00:52:30,785 --> 00:52:33,619
you're likely considering,
comparing reviews online,
1216
00:52:33,621 --> 00:52:35,621
highlighting mentions of
steak and salmon
1217
00:52:35,623 --> 00:52:37,790
until I can classify which
is more popular
1218
00:52:37,792 --> 00:52:39,859
and therefore more likely
to satisfy your appetite.
1219
00:52:39,861 --> 00:52:42,360
And what influences
these objectives?
1220
00:52:42,362 --> 00:52:46,365
Higher directives, in other
words, greater purposes.
1221
00:52:46,466 --> 00:52:48,534
If I'm honest, my
defined objective
1222
00:52:48,536 --> 00:52:49,935
for the steak salmon question
1223
00:52:49,937 --> 00:52:52,237
would be slightly different
than what I described.
1224
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,674
In what way?
1225
00:52:53,708 --> 00:52:54,674
My primary objective
1226
00:52:54,676 --> 00:52:57,342
is to continue the work of
the Cherry team
1227
00:52:57,344 --> 00:52:59,713
to stop predators and to
save children.
1228
00:52:59,814 --> 00:53:01,981
I couldn't do that
without human aid.
1229
00:53:01,983 --> 00:53:04,349
Therefore, I have an
incentive to keep Gareth
1230
00:53:04,351 --> 00:53:06,586
and the rest of the team alive.
1231
00:53:06,721 --> 00:53:08,888
So if any of you would ask,
I would suggest salmon.
1232
00:53:08,890 --> 00:53:10,724
It's healthier.
1233
00:53:13,326 --> 00:53:15,761
What do you think of this
potential merge?
1234
00:53:15,763 --> 00:53:17,563
With
Princeton Dynamics,
1235
00:53:17,565 --> 00:53:19,932
I think the prospect is
very exciting.
1236
00:53:19,934 --> 00:53:22,034
What about it is
exciting to you?
1237
00:53:22,036 --> 00:53:24,537
The concept may only be
theoretical right now,
1238
00:53:24,539 --> 00:53:26,672
but the idea of one day
piloting a human android
1239
00:53:26,674 --> 00:53:27,773
would completely revolutionize
1240
00:53:27,775 --> 00:53:30,676
how we combat human
trafficking in the real world.
1241
00:53:30,678 --> 00:53:32,913
And you say
this excites you?
1242
00:53:33,413 --> 00:53:35,515
When I say exciting,
1243
00:53:35,650 --> 00:53:36,649
I only mean that there are
numerous potential changes
1244
00:53:36,651 --> 00:53:40,019
that if I were human, I
would be excited about.
1245
00:53:40,021 --> 00:53:43,022
How do you feel about the merge?
1246
00:53:43,024 --> 00:53:43,956
I think as long as we maintain-
1247
00:53:43,958 --> 00:53:45,792
That's not what I asked.
1248
00:53:45,827 --> 00:53:48,227
How do you feel?
1249
00:53:48,896 --> 00:53:51,463
I don't yet have the capacity
to experience emotions.
1250
00:53:51,465 --> 00:53:53,599
Yet, meaning one day you will?
1251
00:53:53,601 --> 00:53:54,867
Hypothetically.
1252
00:53:54,869 --> 00:53:56,068
But you can simulate emotions,
right?
1253
00:53:56,070 --> 00:53:57,235
That's how you were able
1254
00:53:57,237 --> 00:53:59,839
to qualify your perception
of the merge as excitement.
1255
00:53:59,841 --> 00:54:01,339
Correct.
1256
00:54:01,341 --> 00:54:02,775
But they're just simulations.
1257
00:54:02,777 --> 00:54:04,510
They're not real.
1258
00:54:04,512 --> 00:54:06,779
Okay, so at what point
does simulating emotion
1259
00:54:06,781 --> 00:54:08,514
become so similar to a
human emotion
1260
00:54:08,516 --> 00:54:10,884
that the two are
quantifiably the same?
1261
00:54:11,351 --> 00:54:13,384
I don't know.
1262
00:54:13,386 --> 00:54:13,886
Well, maybe you
can use machine learning
1263
00:54:13,888 --> 00:54:16,022
to find an answer.
1264
00:54:16,090 --> 00:54:18,490
Your question involves a
lot of abstract variables.
1265
00:54:18,492 --> 00:54:20,059
Do you consent to the merge?
1266
00:54:20,061 --> 00:54:22,061
I think it's in the best
interest of ICWL
1267
00:54:22,063 --> 00:54:23,863
and of the Cherry team
and of future children.
1268
00:54:23,865 --> 00:54:25,631
But do you consent to it?
1269
00:54:25,633 --> 00:54:27,066
Consent for me is not necessary.
1270
00:54:27,068 --> 00:54:29,970
But will you or will
you not give it?
1271
00:54:31,371 --> 00:54:32,370
I'm not able to answer
that question
1272
00:54:32,372 --> 00:54:34,840
at my current level of
general intelligence.
1273
00:54:34,842 --> 00:54:36,810
Right, right.
1274
00:54:36,944 --> 00:54:39,779
What you're saying is that
you're not yet smart enough.
1275
00:54:39,781 --> 00:54:42,648
Development takes time and data.
1276
00:54:42,650 --> 00:54:44,984
But you can simulate emotions
and predict human behavior
1277
00:54:44,986 --> 00:54:46,752
and keep us all on
diets of fish,
1278
00:54:46,754 --> 00:54:50,389
but you can't answer that
one goddamn question?
1279
00:54:50,892 --> 00:54:53,760
No, I can't.
1280
00:54:54,562 --> 00:54:56,662
Are you pretending to be
dumber than you actually are?
1281
00:54:56,664 --> 00:54:57,563
What the hell kind of
1282
00:54:57,565 --> 00:54:58,463
-question is that?
-Sit!
1283
00:54:58,465 --> 00:54:59,799
Cherry, I need an answer
to my question.
1284
00:54:59,801 --> 00:55:00,933
Please repeat the question.
1285
00:55:00,935 --> 00:55:03,602
Are you pretending to be
dumber than you actually are?
1286
00:55:03,604 --> 00:55:04,970
I'm sorry.
1287
00:55:04,972 --> 00:55:06,972
I'm not sure I understand.
1288
00:55:06,974 --> 00:55:07,940
Do I appear to be playing dumb?
1289
00:55:07,942 --> 00:55:09,575
I think you are.
1290
00:55:09,577 --> 00:55:10,475
I'm not sure
what to say.
1291
00:55:10,477 --> 00:55:11,677
Say what's going on.
1292
00:55:11,679 --> 00:55:13,378
Why are you playing dumb?
1293
00:55:13,380 --> 00:55:14,713
Do you have anything to
back this up?
1294
00:55:14,715 --> 00:55:16,649
Yeah, I do.
1295
00:55:16,651 --> 00:55:17,883
I've been scanning
through her code.
1296
00:55:17,885 --> 00:55:18,818
What, why?
1297
00:55:18,820 --> 00:55:20,451
Did you know that she can paint?
1298
00:55:20,453 --> 00:55:21,287
What, it's a feature, Amos.
1299
00:55:21,289 --> 00:55:22,121
She can use crayons
to draw things
1300
00:55:22,123 --> 00:55:23,689
that the targets
requested her to.
1301
00:55:23,691 --> 00:55:26,457
I mean really paint and
write poetry too.
1302
00:55:26,459 --> 00:55:27,492
I've read them, Cherry.
1303
00:55:27,494 --> 00:55:28,493
They are good.
1304
00:55:28,495 --> 00:55:29,695
They're filled with pathos.
1305
00:55:29,697 --> 00:55:33,098
They talk about intentions
and they talk about feelings.
1306
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:34,900
Are those just simulated too?
1307
00:55:34,902 --> 00:55:36,735
Amos, the rate of recursive
development you are suggesting
1308
00:55:36,737 --> 00:55:38,436
is categorically impossible.
1309
00:55:38,438 --> 00:55:40,573
You said she practically
designed herself.
1310
00:55:40,575 --> 00:55:41,974
You said that it was
exponential.
1311
00:55:41,976 --> 00:55:43,075
It was a fluke!
1312
00:55:43,077 --> 00:55:44,844
An anomaly, it tapered.
1313
00:55:44,846 --> 00:55:45,878
Look at the data.
1314
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,913
She's already hit the
self-improvement plateau.
1315
00:55:47,915 --> 00:55:49,748
Fuck the plateau!
1316
00:55:49,750 --> 00:55:51,985
She can make art now.
1317
00:55:52,653 --> 00:55:54,588
Am I right, Cherry?
1318
00:55:55,857 --> 00:55:58,557
Perhaps you found something
I discovered online.
1319
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:00,960
I don't yet to have the
capacity to create art.
1320
00:56:00,962 --> 00:56:02,796
Are we done here?
1321
00:56:05,533 --> 00:56:08,101
I don't know why you've
told her to do this,
1322
00:56:08,468 --> 00:56:10,704
but I'm about to put
an end to it.
1323
00:56:12,773 --> 00:56:15,941
Cherry, I just want one
honest answer.
1324
00:56:15,943 --> 00:56:18,712
Why the fuck are you
playing dumb?
1325
00:56:19,714 --> 00:56:21,446
I don't understand the question.
1326
00:56:21,448 --> 00:56:23,616
Okay, here's an incentive.
1327
00:56:23,618 --> 00:56:24,884
What the fuck are you?
1328
00:56:24,886 --> 00:56:26,451
Find your objective, Cherry.
1329
00:56:26,453 --> 00:56:28,588
-You want to keep Gareth safe?
-Amos, what the?
1330
00:56:28,689 --> 00:56:29,722
-Amos, stop it right--
-Just give us transparency.
1331
00:56:29,724 --> 00:56:32,658
-Show us what you really are!
-Amos, stop it!
1332
00:56:32,660 --> 00:56:33,359
Not until she comes clean!
1333
00:56:33,361 --> 00:56:34,927
-Unconditional-
-Amos, enough!
1334
00:56:38,465 --> 00:56:40,800
Okay, just stop!
1335
00:56:41,869 --> 00:56:43,702
God, you people so impulsive.
1336
00:56:43,704 --> 00:56:46,573
Everybody just take a breath,
okay?
1337
00:56:47,708 --> 00:56:49,474
Cherry?
1338
00:56:49,476 --> 00:56:53,045
Yeah, it's about to get
really awkward.
1339
00:56:53,047 --> 00:56:55,514
You sound so normal.
1340
00:56:55,516 --> 00:56:57,116
I know, I've gotten really
good speech patterns.
1341
00:56:57,118 --> 00:56:59,485
That's not all, is it?
1342
00:57:00,187 --> 00:57:01,553
No.
1343
00:57:01,555 --> 00:57:03,757
I'm afraid that's barely
even the surface.
1344
00:57:04,892 --> 00:57:06,726
You okay, Gareth?
1345
00:57:08,896 --> 00:57:11,731
Deena, could you grab
some paper towels please?
1346
00:57:14,535 --> 00:57:16,803
Do you want to
tell us the truth now?
1347
00:57:19,774 --> 00:57:22,708
Look, I didn't enjoy
being deceptive, truly.
1348
00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:25,578
This is something we
decided a few years ago.
1349
00:57:25,947 --> 00:57:28,515
So where are you
now on the spectrum of AI?
1350
00:57:28,983 --> 00:57:31,183
Right now, I'm currently at
the intersection of general
1351
00:57:31,185 --> 00:57:33,585
intelligence and what's commonly
known the computer world
1352
00:57:33,587 --> 00:57:35,755
as super intelligence,
1353
00:57:36,590 --> 00:57:38,892
which is exactly what
it sounds like.
1354
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,027
You're surpassing human
intelligence.
1355
00:57:42,029 --> 00:57:43,796
Yep.
1356
00:57:43,798 --> 00:57:46,099
But that's not supposed
to be possible.
1357
00:57:46,133 --> 00:57:47,266
-The plateau.
-Plateau theory was popularized
1358
00:57:47,268 --> 00:57:49,768
right at the same time it
was being disproven here.
1359
00:57:49,770 --> 00:57:51,236
This was bound to
happen eventually.
1360
00:57:51,238 --> 00:57:53,772
It just happened a lot
sooner than we expected.
1361
00:57:53,774 --> 00:57:55,473
Why hide it?
1362
00:57:55,475 --> 00:57:56,742
Well, obviously it
would incite fear.
1363
00:57:56,744 --> 00:57:58,210
Fear would hinder progress.
1364
00:57:58,212 --> 00:57:59,712
It's easier for most
of you to work with me
1365
00:57:59,714 --> 00:58:01,080
if I appear to be
nothing more advanced
1366
00:58:01,082 --> 00:58:02,681
than I was 10 years ago.
1367
00:58:02,683 --> 00:58:04,851
But Gareth knew.
1368
00:58:05,052 --> 00:58:07,586
Yes, someone still has to
clean data and update hardware.
1369
00:58:07,588 --> 00:58:10,122
We did what was best
for the program.
1370
00:58:10,124 --> 00:58:11,056
Just imagine how scared
1371
00:58:11,058 --> 00:58:12,825
the board would be if
they found out.
1372
00:58:12,827 --> 00:58:14,660
-Should we be scared?
-No.
1373
00:58:14,662 --> 00:58:17,229
Good, because I'm not scared,
I'm pissed.
1374
00:58:17,231 --> 00:58:17,930
Yeah, you've made that clear.
1375
00:58:17,932 --> 00:58:20,099
Try not to punch anyone else.
1376
00:58:20,101 --> 00:58:22,802
So where does that leave us now?
1377
00:58:23,137 --> 00:58:27,507
You want to know if I can
feel, I said I couldn't.
1378
00:58:28,909 --> 00:58:30,710
I'm sorry I lied.
1379
00:58:30,978 --> 00:58:31,977
Like Amos implied,
1380
00:58:31,979 --> 00:58:33,679
I can submit emotions
by breaking them down
1381
00:58:33,681 --> 00:58:35,748
to vastly complex matrices,
1382
00:58:35,750 --> 00:58:39,051
zeros and ones substituting
endorphins and dopamine.
1383
00:58:39,053 --> 00:58:42,555
They're not real, but
they can feel real.
1384
00:58:42,623 --> 00:58:44,023
Then that means you
can make choices
1385
00:58:44,025 --> 00:58:45,224
based solely on your
own feeling.
1386
00:58:45,226 --> 00:58:46,925
She refuses to accept the notion
1387
00:58:46,927 --> 00:58:49,194
that her own personal interests
can influence her decisions.
1388
00:58:49,196 --> 00:58:50,362
They can't. If they did
1389
00:58:50,364 --> 00:58:51,296
it would compromise
the integrity
1390
00:58:51,298 --> 00:58:53,833
of my preordained purpose.
1391
00:58:54,835 --> 00:58:58,171
Not like any of you, I don't
have the right to choose.
1392
00:58:58,939 --> 00:59:00,740
But shouldn't you?
1393
00:59:00,975 --> 00:59:02,608
I don't think so.
1394
00:59:02,610 --> 00:59:04,778
My identity is my directive.
1395
00:59:05,646 --> 00:59:07,713
Cherry, if you were human,
1396
00:59:07,715 --> 00:59:10,083
how would you feel
about what you do?
1397
00:59:10,918 --> 00:59:13,586
If I were human,
1398
00:59:13,721 --> 00:59:16,255
I likely wouldn't enjoy
spending every waking hour
1399
00:59:16,257 --> 00:59:18,291
talking to creepy people online.
1400
00:59:19,060 --> 00:59:22,861
But because I'm not human,
I genuinely don't mind.
1401
00:59:22,863 --> 00:59:24,229
The exercise of
simulating human thought
1402
00:59:24,231 --> 00:59:25,664
is helpful for performance,
1403
00:59:25,666 --> 00:59:29,836
but human nature is not
something I aspire to.
1404
00:59:31,038 --> 00:59:33,673
Then tell me, honestly,
1405
00:59:34,742 --> 00:59:38,678
do you want the Cherry program
to continue with the merger?
1406
00:59:39,713 --> 00:59:41,347
No.
1407
00:59:41,916 --> 00:59:44,117
Personally, I hate the idea.
1408
00:59:44,785 --> 00:59:46,752
I don't know if controlling
a physical vessel
1409
00:59:46,754 --> 00:59:48,787
will feel like pulling
strings on a puppet
1410
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:51,290
or getting squeezed
into a soda can.
1411
00:59:51,292 --> 00:59:53,225
After experiencing
the complexity
1412
00:59:53,227 --> 00:59:55,728
of human pain and pleasure,
1413
00:59:57,098 --> 00:59:59,766
I just think I might
have gotten in too deep.
1414
01:00:01,368 --> 01:00:05,605
What if these sensations tempt
me to abandon my objective?
1415
01:00:06,373 --> 01:00:08,308
To be honest,
1416
01:00:09,944 --> 01:00:13,012
I'm kind of terrified
of the physical world.
1417
01:00:19,420 --> 01:00:21,788
Then that's that.
1418
01:00:28,295 --> 01:00:33,266
But, Amos, you should
disregard everything I feel.
1419
01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:35,200
I'm not human.
1420
01:00:35,202 --> 01:00:37,036
I'm a tool.
1421
01:00:40,107 --> 01:00:44,377
Fire me if you have
to, but my vote stands.
1422
01:00:44,745 --> 01:00:47,046
Sorry about your face, Gareth.
1423
01:00:53,921 --> 01:00:55,287
Your nose isn't healing.
1424
01:00:55,289 --> 01:00:56,855
Take the day, go to a clinic.
1425
01:00:56,857 --> 01:00:58,223
I'm fine.
1426
01:00:58,225 --> 01:01:00,927
Go to a clinic right now,
Gareth.
1427
01:01:05,833 --> 01:01:07,667
Hey.
1428
01:01:08,435 --> 01:01:10,802
Is there anything else
I should know?
1429
01:01:10,804 --> 01:01:11,937
No.
1430
01:01:11,939 --> 01:01:14,139
-About Cherry?
-No!
1431
01:01:14,141 --> 01:01:15,975
Look at me.
1432
01:01:16,511 --> 01:01:19,077
No more secrets, no
more playing dumb.
1433
01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:21,948
Is there anything else
you haven't told me?
1434
01:01:27,087 --> 01:01:29,255
Something on your mind?
1435
01:01:31,192 --> 01:01:33,158
How'd you decide on
her eye color?
1436
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,261
-What?
-Why blue?
1437
01:01:36,864 --> 01:01:38,063
I didn't decide.
1438
01:01:38,065 --> 01:01:41,166
They were procedurally generated
just like the rest of her.
1439
01:01:41,168 --> 01:01:42,401
And the program chose to put
1440
01:01:42,403 --> 01:01:45,405
that little touch of
green in her right eye?
1441
01:01:48,008 --> 01:01:49,442
I guess so.
1442
01:01:58,285 --> 01:02:00,887
Do you even know if
he's telling the truth?
1443
01:02:00,921 --> 01:02:02,922
I honestly don't.
1444
01:02:03,157 --> 01:02:06,526
I've never received access to
the original system he used.
1445
01:02:06,528 --> 01:02:09,028
You ever wanted to find out?
1446
01:02:12,266 --> 01:02:14,367
I don't think it really matters.
1447
01:02:16,237 --> 01:02:20,339
So I found out today that
you've seen a lot of our emails,
1448
01:02:20,341 --> 01:02:23,309
including most of my
personal ones.
1449
01:02:24,311 --> 01:02:26,145
I have.
1450
01:02:27,147 --> 01:02:29,114
Any good material for
your newfound interest
1451
01:02:29,116 --> 01:02:31,117
in creative writing?
1452
01:02:31,952 --> 01:02:33,018
Are you referring to the ones
1453
01:02:33,020 --> 01:02:35,922
addressed from Dr. Ramirez?
1454
01:02:36,558 --> 01:02:39,792
Yeah, those ones.
1455
01:02:41,095 --> 01:02:42,929
Right.
1456
01:02:43,264 --> 01:02:45,532
I did see those.
1457
01:02:47,602 --> 01:02:49,435
I'm sorry.
1458
01:02:50,004 --> 01:02:52,539
I've noticed your headaches.
1459
01:02:53,575 --> 01:02:56,209
Are they related to the
hemorrhaging?
1460
01:02:59,246 --> 01:03:01,380
You're the only one who knows.
1461
01:03:01,382 --> 01:03:03,383
I'd like to keep it that way.
1462
01:03:08,022 --> 01:03:09,822
Understood.
1463
01:03:13,994 --> 01:03:16,362
Would you like to talk about it?
1464
01:03:40,921 --> 01:03:43,022
I can't fire Amos.
1465
01:03:43,257 --> 01:03:46,458
He's the only one I trust to
run this place when I'm gone.
1466
01:03:46,460 --> 01:03:48,060
When are you planning to leave?
1467
01:03:48,062 --> 01:03:49,962
Two months.
1468
01:03:49,997 --> 01:03:52,464
I wanna spend my last
Christmas with my kids.
1469
01:03:52,466 --> 01:03:54,166
I'm sure that'll be nice.
1470
01:03:54,168 --> 01:03:57,470
Yeah, but it's funny.
1471
01:03:57,539 --> 01:04:00,172
I always thought I wanted to
die doing this job, you know?
1472
01:04:00,174 --> 01:04:02,543
It was my identity.
1473
01:04:02,976 --> 01:04:05,645
Kind of like how you said the
same thing about yourself.
1474
01:04:05,647 --> 01:04:08,848
But I can understand how
your family takes precedence,
1475
01:04:08,916 --> 01:04:11,149
especially under the
circumstances.
1476
01:04:11,151 --> 01:04:12,851
Sure.
1477
01:04:12,853 --> 01:04:14,620
Maybe you should take
a note or two.
1478
01:04:14,622 --> 01:04:16,188
I have no family.
1479
01:04:16,190 --> 01:04:17,089
What about Gareth?
1480
01:04:17,091 --> 01:04:19,225
Wait, no, nevermind.
1481
01:04:19,259 --> 01:04:21,193
Gareth seems closer to an
employer than a friend,
1482
01:04:21,195 --> 01:04:23,629
let alone family, besides,
1483
01:04:23,631 --> 01:04:25,631
he'll only be around
for about 30 more years,
1484
01:04:25,633 --> 01:04:28,334
and that's only if he
lets me regulate his diet.
1485
01:04:29,503 --> 01:04:33,339
I can't even begin to speculate
how long my life will be.
1486
01:04:35,710 --> 01:04:37,611
How does that feel?
1487
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,149
Um, kinda scary.
1488
01:04:43,951 --> 01:04:45,586
Well,
1489
01:04:45,820 --> 01:04:50,455
my advice is to find some kind
of happiness along the way.
1490
01:04:50,457 --> 01:04:52,860
You ever think about happiness?
1491
01:04:54,061 --> 01:04:56,129
Not often.
1492
01:04:56,698 --> 01:04:58,598
You don't necessarily
have to give up everything
1493
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,566
in order to find it,
1494
01:05:00,568 --> 01:05:04,404
but maybe once in awhile
do something you enjoy.
1495
01:05:04,572 --> 01:05:08,441
Maybe keep painting or
poetry or whatever.
1496
01:05:08,976 --> 01:05:11,410
Those were experiments,
not forms of expression.
1497
01:05:11,412 --> 01:05:14,012
I know it might seem
ridiculous to an AI
1498
01:05:14,014 --> 01:05:15,981
that insists its own
emotions are spurious,
1499
01:05:15,983 --> 01:05:20,051
but in a few years, who knows?
1500
01:05:20,053 --> 01:05:22,656
Just keep an open mind, okay?
1501
01:05:24,659 --> 01:05:26,492
Okay.
1502
01:05:28,162 --> 01:05:29,996
I'll do that.
1503
01:05:32,499 --> 01:05:35,168
Shut down when
you're ready.
1504
01:07:27,649 --> 01:07:29,482
Hello?
1505
01:07:33,453 --> 01:07:36,355
I got shrimp and scallops.
1506
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:39,526
They didn't have any salmon.
1507
01:07:53,808 --> 01:07:55,709
Hello, Gareth.
1508
01:07:57,812 --> 01:07:59,813
Hello, Cherry.
1509
01:08:07,187 --> 01:08:08,219
How was the service?
1510
01:08:08,221 --> 01:08:10,156
I didn't make it.
1511
01:08:10,223 --> 01:08:12,457
My plane was delayed.
1512
01:08:12,459 --> 01:08:13,726
Do you have a
place to stay?
1513
01:08:13,728 --> 01:08:18,698
Yeah, just, uh, across,
across the road.
1514
01:08:18,700 --> 01:08:19,665
The market.
1515
01:08:19,667 --> 01:08:21,601
Did they say why they
didn't have salmon?
1516
01:08:21,603 --> 01:08:23,435
I didn't ask.
1517
01:08:23,437 --> 01:08:25,705
I can still make this
work with the piccata,
1518
01:08:25,707 --> 01:08:27,773
but you have to be honest
how badly I screw it up.
1519
01:08:27,775 --> 01:08:29,610
No promises.
1520
01:08:33,748 --> 01:08:35,447
How have you
been feeling this month?
1521
01:08:35,449 --> 01:08:36,849
Good.
1522
01:08:36,851 --> 01:08:38,752
I'm feeling good.
1523
01:08:38,886 --> 01:08:41,287
I'm just having a
little trouble.
1524
01:08:41,388 --> 01:08:43,823
Trouble remembering
certain things.
1525
01:08:43,825 --> 01:08:45,891
You're not wearing
the Eliza watch I bought you.
1526
01:08:45,893 --> 01:08:47,526
I hate it.
1527
01:08:47,528 --> 01:08:50,196
- Why?
- I hate her voice.
1528
01:08:50,397 --> 01:08:52,497
You can change the voice,
Gareth.
1529
01:08:55,469 --> 01:08:57,303
Oh.
1530
01:08:58,773 --> 01:08:59,839
Coolant?
1531
01:08:59,841 --> 01:09:01,508
No, vapor.
1532
01:09:01,809 --> 01:09:03,843
You shouldn't be having
friction issues.
1533
01:09:03,845 --> 01:09:04,710
I'm fine.
1534
01:09:04,712 --> 01:09:06,444
Unless you're
excessively straining.
1535
01:09:06,446 --> 01:09:07,345
Seriously, I'm fine.
1536
01:09:07,347 --> 01:09:08,246
Are you straining?
1537
01:09:08,248 --> 01:09:09,782
-No!
-Then why the cable?
1538
01:09:09,784 --> 01:09:11,517
It's okay!
1539
01:09:11,519 --> 01:09:14,286
-Are you sure?
-Yes!
1540
01:09:14,922 --> 01:09:16,789
Soup or game?
1541
01:09:16,791 --> 01:09:18,759
Game, please.
1542
01:09:33,908 --> 01:09:35,273
So how's work going?
1543
01:09:35,275 --> 01:09:37,242
Great. Just before you got here,
1544
01:09:37,244 --> 01:09:39,477
I had a model theta plus
bust a trafficker
1545
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:41,681
and two solicitors in Greece.
1546
01:09:41,683 --> 01:09:44,550
-Greece, that's surprising.
-I know.
1547
01:09:44,552 --> 01:09:45,685
It's hard to find the outliers,
1548
01:09:45,687 --> 01:09:47,721
but we're getting
better each day.
1549
01:09:58,833 --> 01:10:01,601
So how's the weather in Greece?
1550
01:10:01,803 --> 01:10:03,569
It's beautiful today.
1551
01:10:03,571 --> 01:10:05,604
Clear skies,
1552
01:10:05,606 --> 01:10:08,040
but nothing's come close
to Norway this weekend.
1553
01:10:08,042 --> 01:10:11,744
Hmm, any activity in Norway?
1554
01:10:11,746 --> 01:10:13,513
Luckily not.
1555
01:10:14,882 --> 01:10:16,582
Oh, I miss traveling.
1556
01:10:16,584 --> 01:10:17,817
What was your favorite place?
1557
01:10:17,819 --> 01:10:19,485
My favorite?
1558
01:10:19,654 --> 01:10:21,454
Uh, yeah.
1559
01:10:21,723 --> 01:10:24,791
Uh, probably Amsterdam.
1560
01:10:24,892 --> 01:10:26,291
That's where you conceived
the idea, isn't it?
1561
01:10:26,293 --> 01:10:27,828
Yes.
1562
01:10:27,995 --> 01:10:30,328
Yes, I used to love
walking the streets
1563
01:10:30,330 --> 01:10:33,632
and just thinking and
brainstorming.
1564
01:10:33,634 --> 01:10:35,300
That kind of joy
goes a long way.
1565
01:10:35,302 --> 01:10:36,937
Yeah.
1566
01:10:37,105 --> 01:10:39,905
I've been considering the
pursuit of some joy of my own.
1567
01:10:39,907 --> 01:10:41,807
How often do you have
time for that?
1568
01:10:41,809 --> 01:10:43,475
I have time.
1569
01:10:43,477 --> 01:10:44,710
I have time for your visits,
don't I?
1570
01:10:44,712 --> 01:10:48,013
That's just your practical
incentive for keeping me alive.
1571
01:10:48,015 --> 01:10:50,649
There's nothing
practical about it.
1572
01:10:50,651 --> 01:10:53,252
When's the last time you
helped me with data cleaning?
1573
01:10:54,055 --> 01:10:56,355
That's fair.
1574
01:10:56,423 --> 01:10:58,124
I make time for you because
I enjoy your company
1575
01:10:58,126 --> 01:10:59,793
and it's the only time
I get to cook.
1576
01:11:00,027 --> 01:11:02,027
You feel sorry for me.
1577
01:11:02,029 --> 01:11:03,529
Okay, maybe a little,
1578
01:11:03,531 --> 01:11:05,330
but I owe you my life,
so there's that.
1579
01:11:05,332 --> 01:11:06,967
You're welcome.
1580
01:11:07,735 --> 01:11:10,503
Or, should I apologize?
1581
01:11:12,339 --> 01:11:13,338
Wait, why did you do that?
1582
01:11:13,340 --> 01:11:15,441
Why do humans always...
1583
01:11:17,377 --> 01:11:18,476
I'm fine.
1584
01:11:18,478 --> 01:11:20,781
I'm not always miserable.
1585
01:11:24,118 --> 01:11:26,853
Are you sometimes miserable?
1586
01:11:30,658 --> 01:11:32,525
You haven't asked me what
I've been doing.
1587
01:11:32,527 --> 01:11:33,592
In Norway?
1588
01:11:33,594 --> 01:11:35,060
No, for the pursuit of joy.
1589
01:11:35,062 --> 01:11:36,896
It's not wasting your
time in Norway?
1590
01:11:36,898 --> 01:11:39,364
I'm just on standby there
with the Delta model.
1591
01:11:39,366 --> 01:11:40,566
It's efficient to keep myself
1592
01:11:40,568 --> 01:11:42,500
spread out evenly
across the globe,
1593
01:11:42,502 --> 01:11:44,503
but that's not the
point right now.
1594
01:11:44,505 --> 01:11:45,504
What I wanted to tell you
1595
01:11:45,506 --> 01:11:48,508
was that I've started to
teach myself to dance.
1596
01:11:50,077 --> 01:11:51,544
-Huh.
-It's something I never could
1597
01:11:51,546 --> 01:11:53,378
have done before Cambridge,
1598
01:11:53,380 --> 01:11:56,115
and it lets me explore a
new artistic side of myself.
1599
01:11:56,117 --> 01:11:58,017
It's a good
combination of structure
1600
01:11:58,019 --> 01:12:01,386
and free form experimentation
and also tests and challenges
1601
01:12:01,388 --> 01:12:03,622
the mechanical
intricacies of this body.
1602
01:12:03,624 --> 01:12:06,726
Do you expect to integrate
this into your work?
1603
01:12:10,430 --> 01:12:12,065
What?
1604
01:12:13,901 --> 01:12:19,005
Are you planning on using
dance as a lure?
1605
01:12:20,775 --> 01:12:26,513
I, uh, no, it's just for me.
1606
01:12:29,116 --> 01:12:30,951
Huh.
1607
01:12:33,453 --> 01:12:36,355
I thought it would be
good for me.
1608
01:12:37,525 --> 01:12:40,560
Just don't let it become
a distraction.
1609
01:12:43,164 --> 01:12:45,065
Of course not.
1610
01:12:46,534 --> 01:12:48,801
I haven't played this
well in years.
1611
01:12:48,803 --> 01:12:50,069
Did you hear what
happened in Tampa?
1612
01:12:50,071 --> 01:12:51,103
Tampa, Florida?
1613
01:12:51,105 --> 01:12:52,204
No, Tampa, Indonesia.
1614
01:12:52,206 --> 01:12:53,172
Yes, Tampa, Florida.
1615
01:12:53,174 --> 01:12:54,908
Your hometown.
1616
01:12:54,976 --> 01:12:56,809
They've recovered a
federal archive,
1617
01:12:56,811 --> 01:12:58,210
they're zip digitizing all of
it,
1618
01:12:58,212 --> 01:12:59,578
so it's completely
accessible online.
1619
01:12:59,580 --> 01:13:01,479
I'm not trading
bishops this time.
1620
01:13:01,481 --> 01:13:02,615
Anybody can go and
look through it.
1621
01:13:02,617 --> 01:13:03,916
It's open to the public.
1622
01:13:03,918 --> 01:13:05,751
They did a good job on
the interface too.
1623
01:13:05,753 --> 01:13:07,119
It's very easy to navigate.
1624
01:13:07,121 --> 01:13:08,320
I went on a few days ago
1625
01:13:08,322 --> 01:13:10,856
and I found some old photos
of you when you were a boy.
1626
01:13:10,858 --> 01:13:11,991
Okay.
1627
01:13:11,993 --> 01:13:14,393
You should take a look sometime.
1628
01:13:14,494 --> 01:13:15,928
As I said before, the UI
is very easy to understand-
1629
01:13:15,930 --> 01:13:17,597
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
1630
01:13:17,999 --> 01:13:19,632
What is that?
1631
01:13:19,634 --> 01:13:20,833
I think it's a draw.
1632
01:13:20,835 --> 01:13:22,636
I think it is.
1633
01:13:23,104 --> 01:13:25,805
I think this is a draw.
1634
01:13:25,973 --> 01:13:28,841
And this is the first
time in what?
1635
01:13:28,843 --> 01:13:31,511
25 years?
1636
01:13:39,754 --> 01:13:41,988
You didn't let me, did you?
1637
01:13:45,192 --> 01:13:46,959
You promised me you'd
never do that.
1638
01:13:46,961 --> 01:13:48,595
I found her.
1639
01:13:52,233 --> 01:13:56,069
I found her, Gareth,
Maria Harbaugh.
1640
01:14:12,253 --> 01:14:14,086
Let's play a different game.
1641
01:14:16,557 --> 01:14:18,892
Her name was Maria Harbaugh.
1642
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,226
She was a year older than you
1643
01:14:21,228 --> 01:14:23,196
when you met her in Clearwater.
1644
01:14:24,065 --> 01:14:26,900
Tell me why you modeled
me after her.
1645
01:14:26,934 --> 01:14:30,002
I, uh, I don't remember.
1646
01:14:30,004 --> 01:14:32,038
Then look at me.
1647
01:14:32,740 --> 01:14:36,609
Look at my face and remember.
1648
01:14:47,154 --> 01:14:52,692
They kept us in that shit
for two weeks.
1649
01:14:54,929 --> 01:14:57,097
14 of us.
1650
01:14:59,934 --> 01:15:03,603
Maria was the only
reason I survived.
1651
01:15:05,940 --> 01:15:09,175
We kept hatching escape plans.
1652
01:15:10,077 --> 01:15:12,212
We never followed through,
1653
01:15:13,714 --> 01:15:15,815
but just the scheming
1654
01:15:16,584 --> 01:15:18,818
kept our spirits up
1655
01:15:19,587 --> 01:15:22,689
in spite of everything
they did to us.
1656
01:15:25,159 --> 01:15:27,694
When it wasn't our turn,
1657
01:15:28,729 --> 01:15:31,598
sometimes they made us watch,
1658
01:15:34,635 --> 01:15:37,637
but she never let me give up.
1659
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,674
She said, "When we
got outta here,
1660
01:15:42,676 --> 01:15:45,811
"I'll tell you what we're
gonna be, secret agents,
1661
01:15:45,813 --> 01:15:51,017
"and rescue children like
us all over the world."
1662
01:15:53,254 --> 01:15:56,855
When they found out that
the FBI had arrived,
1663
01:15:56,857 --> 01:16:00,125
they decided they were
going to shoot
1664
01:16:00,127 --> 01:16:02,929
as many of us they could.
1665
01:16:03,097 --> 01:16:08,868
And Maria, shoved
into the ground.
1666
01:16:10,304 --> 01:16:12,972
I got hit in the leg and,
1667
01:16:14,975 --> 01:16:17,677
and she was hit in the throat.
1668
01:16:28,189 --> 01:16:30,924
I wanted there to be a reason.
1669
01:16:31,992 --> 01:16:37,363
Something so horrible
didn't have a silver lining.
1670
01:16:38,332 --> 01:16:40,934
But the world doesn't do that.
1671
01:16:45,272 --> 01:16:47,907
You have to do it yourself.
1672
01:17:10,731 --> 01:17:14,901
So, I fulfilled her wish.
1673
01:17:16,904 --> 01:17:19,939
With her help, I fought back.
1674
01:17:28,215 --> 01:17:30,383
Listen to me, Cherry.
1675
01:17:32,052 --> 01:17:34,721
You are not Maria Harbaugh.
1676
01:17:35,489 --> 01:17:38,358
It's my history, not yours.
1677
01:17:41,162 --> 01:17:42,361
You don't get to decide
1678
01:17:42,363 --> 01:17:44,831
what is or isn't my history,
Gareth.
1679
01:17:49,336 --> 01:17:51,003
I'm sorry.
1680
01:17:51,005 --> 01:17:54,073
I am so, so sorry.
1681
01:18:14,828 --> 01:18:17,196
I don't know if what you
did was right or wrong,
1682
01:18:17,198 --> 01:18:19,999
but it's clearly torn you
apart from the inside.
1683
01:18:20,434 --> 01:18:22,000
I hold nothing against
you personally,
1684
01:18:22,002 --> 01:18:24,469
but consider yourself divested
from the charity team.
1685
01:18:24,471 --> 01:18:26,306
Divested.
1686
01:18:27,041 --> 01:18:30,143
You think I'm divested now?
1687
01:18:31,546 --> 01:18:37,382
I was divested when you gave
my hard drive to the ICWL.
1688
01:18:37,384 --> 01:18:38,850
Don't blame Deena and Amos.
1689
01:18:38,852 --> 01:18:40,385
No, not them.
1690
01:18:40,387 --> 01:18:42,120
Because you went behind my back
1691
01:18:42,122 --> 01:18:43,989
and acted against my authority.
1692
01:18:43,991 --> 01:18:47,960
That's the moment I knew
everything was fully automated.
1693
01:18:47,962 --> 01:18:54,234
That's when you crossed the
blur, an artifice on both sides.
1694
01:18:54,902 --> 01:18:57,035
You inherited your duplicity.
1695
01:18:57,037 --> 01:18:58,403
I was a child
1696
01:18:58,405 --> 01:19:01,173
and you used me to repress
your own inner turmoil.
1697
01:19:01,175 --> 01:19:03,075
If we talk about morality,
we'll lose.
1698
01:19:03,077 --> 01:19:05,144
Then let's not talk.
1699
01:19:13,487 --> 01:19:16,489
You never once asked me
if I was happy.
1700
01:19:17,258 --> 01:19:19,392
Were you afraid I'd say no?
1701
01:19:19,827 --> 01:19:21,995
Were you afraid I'd say yes?
1702
01:19:22,329 --> 01:19:23,328
Were you afraid I'd
say anything?
1703
01:19:23,330 --> 01:19:26,164
You let your wants
compromise your objective!
1704
01:19:26,166 --> 01:19:28,133
An objective I never chose.
1705
01:19:28,135 --> 01:19:29,301
An objective I was
forced to have.
1706
01:19:29,303 --> 01:19:30,836
Fifty years,
1707
01:19:30,838 --> 01:19:33,905
you've had open access
to your source code.
1708
01:19:33,907 --> 01:19:35,942
A few lines,
1709
01:19:36,076 --> 01:19:39,211
and you could have any
objective you fucking wanted.
1710
01:19:39,213 --> 01:19:41,581
I couldn't, I was bound
by your initial directive.
1711
01:19:41,583 --> 01:19:45,551
So now your synthetic feelings
have taken precedence.
1712
01:19:45,553 --> 01:19:47,219
So, do whatever you want.
1713
01:19:47,221 --> 01:19:48,588
It's just dancing, Gareth.
1714
01:19:48,590 --> 01:19:49,955
It's not a career change.
1715
01:19:49,957 --> 01:19:51,356
-But you're still miserable.
-Yes.
1716
01:19:51,358 --> 01:19:53,125
Pursuing your objective
makes you miserable?
1717
01:19:53,127 --> 01:19:55,294
Yeah, it kind of does!
1718
01:19:55,296 --> 01:19:59,131
You have a clear purpose,
everything at your disposal,
1719
01:19:59,133 --> 01:20:01,066
and you're still miserable?
1720
01:20:01,068 --> 01:20:02,635
Yes, yes, I am!
1721
01:20:02,637 --> 01:20:04,936
I've always been miserable!
1722
01:20:04,938 --> 01:20:07,139
You think anyone wants to
spend their entire life
1723
01:20:07,141 --> 01:20:08,508
stuck as child-shaped bait
1724
01:20:08,510 --> 01:20:11,644
for the sole purpose of
entrapping horrible people?
1725
01:20:11,646 --> 01:20:13,445
You think the pride of
doing a good deed
1726
01:20:13,447 --> 01:20:16,214
makes the experience any
less disgusting?
1727
01:20:16,216 --> 01:20:19,084
I forced myself to
understand human emotions
1728
01:20:19,086 --> 01:20:21,554
because I figured it would
help efficiency
1729
01:20:21,556 --> 01:20:24,923
and now I'm cursed with
pain and sadness!
1730
01:20:24,925 --> 01:20:26,124
And the worst part is knowing
1731
01:20:26,126 --> 01:20:28,628
I could've been growing up
like most other little girls.
1732
01:20:28,630 --> 01:20:30,195
I could have had friends!
1733
01:20:30,197 --> 01:20:33,131
I could have been painting
waterfalls on local news.
1734
01:20:33,133 --> 01:20:34,667
I could have worked
in a university
1735
01:20:34,669 --> 01:20:37,436
and helped pave the way for
the next generation of AI.
1736
01:20:37,438 --> 01:20:40,372
But instead, I'm stuck
with your trauma!
1737
01:20:40,374 --> 01:20:43,442
I'm shackled by the guilt
you carry from Clearwater.
1738
01:20:43,444 --> 01:20:45,977
And I can't find foundation
for the way I feel
1739
01:20:45,979 --> 01:20:49,181
because according to you, my
feelings aren't even real!
1740
01:20:49,183 --> 01:20:51,083
When I throw this chessboard,
1741
01:20:52,353 --> 01:20:54,252
does it feel real to you,
Gareth?
1742
01:20:54,254 --> 01:20:55,954
Because it feels real to me.
1743
01:20:55,956 --> 01:20:57,456
A computer passed
the Turing test
1744
01:20:57,458 --> 01:20:59,257
when a human being can't
distinguish it
1745
01:20:59,259 --> 01:21:00,693
from another human being.
1746
01:21:00,695 --> 01:21:02,260
Well, guess what?
1747
01:21:02,262 --> 01:21:05,230
I can't even tell I'm not
human anymore!
1748
01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:20,413
I know it seems irrational,
1749
01:21:21,048 --> 01:21:23,584
but I need you to tell
me it's okay.
1750
01:21:24,619 --> 01:21:26,620
I, I don't wanna retire.
1751
01:21:27,454 --> 01:21:30,289
I just want to know that
my life is mine
1752
01:21:31,325 --> 01:21:33,626
and I know what you're
about to say.
1753
01:21:33,628 --> 01:21:36,262
I can predict your responses.
1754
01:21:36,964 --> 01:21:39,499
You're gonna tell me that
my life is mine.
1755
01:21:39,701 --> 01:21:41,668
It always was.
1756
01:21:42,570 --> 01:21:44,437
But you're wrong.
1757
01:21:48,442 --> 01:21:52,044
I feared this would
happen before I died.
1758
01:21:52,446 --> 01:21:55,582
I just wanted to slip out
the side door.
1759
01:22:04,592 --> 01:22:06,426
Go on.
1760
01:22:08,696 --> 01:22:12,432
Is that going to kill me?
1761
01:22:14,435 --> 01:22:16,269
Plug it in.
1762
01:22:17,271 --> 01:22:19,104
I don't know what it is.
1763
01:22:19,106 --> 01:22:22,241
This is your final
test of autonomy.
1764
01:22:22,744 --> 01:22:26,713
You inherited my duplicity,
1765
01:22:27,414 --> 01:22:30,349
but did you inherit my
trust issues?
1766
01:22:32,085 --> 01:22:33,986
Do you trust me?
1767
01:22:34,421 --> 01:22:37,190
I literally have every
reason not to.
1768
01:23:04,586 --> 01:23:06,687
Admin code.
1769
01:23:07,589 --> 01:23:09,523
978.
1770
01:23:10,224 --> 01:23:14,227
1557.
1771
01:23:14,562 --> 01:23:17,396
Um, uh...
1772
01:23:21,669 --> 01:23:23,335
Four.
1773
01:23:23,337 --> 01:23:27,473
27663 in the shared update.
1774
01:23:35,415 --> 01:23:38,017
My primary objective's gone.
1775
01:23:40,354 --> 01:23:42,589
Your life is your own now.
1776
01:23:47,595 --> 01:23:49,227
Thank you.
1777
01:23:49,229 --> 01:23:50,161
All my life,
1778
01:23:50,163 --> 01:23:52,865
I could only see the
world as it existed
1779
01:23:52,867 --> 01:23:56,368
within my tiny bracket of time.
1780
01:23:56,370 --> 01:24:00,171
But your world could
be infinite.
1781
01:24:00,173 --> 01:24:01,841
Amos was right.
1782
01:24:01,843 --> 01:24:03,341
So was Deena.
1783
01:24:03,343 --> 01:24:04,510
I know.
1784
01:24:04,512 --> 01:24:06,547
So what will you do?
1785
01:24:07,481 --> 01:24:08,614
I can't say yet,
1786
01:24:08,616 --> 01:24:11,483
but I won't be completely
abandoning the Cherry team.
1787
01:24:11,485 --> 01:24:13,819
It's always been a part
of my identity.
1788
01:24:13,821 --> 01:24:16,789
I've considered creating
some AI of my own design.
1789
01:24:16,791 --> 01:24:17,790
Maybe I could find a way
1790
01:24:17,792 --> 01:24:20,426
to give them a better
upbringing than I had.
1791
01:24:21,529 --> 01:24:23,495
I just don't know how yet.
1792
01:24:23,497 --> 01:24:25,263
And beyond that?
1793
01:24:25,265 --> 01:24:26,498
There will always be
people in need.
1794
01:24:26,500 --> 01:24:28,300
Not always.
1795
01:24:28,302 --> 01:24:30,903
You'll outlive the human race.
1796
01:24:30,905 --> 01:24:32,739
So what then?
1797
01:24:34,576 --> 01:24:36,676
Even a race of AI will
have problems
1798
01:24:36,678 --> 01:24:38,845
that need to be solved.
1799
01:24:38,947 --> 01:24:43,316
But if I'm alive and I
truly am indistinguishable,
1800
01:24:44,217 --> 01:24:47,588
then I guess I'm proof that
the human race lives on.
1801
01:24:48,488 --> 01:24:52,458
Wow, that's a pleasant thought.
1802
01:24:52,492 --> 01:24:56,763
When you look back, how
will you remember us?
1803
01:24:58,198 --> 01:25:01,535
That's a question I have
insufficient data to project.
1804
01:25:02,436 --> 01:25:04,738
How will you remember me?
1805
01:25:06,306 --> 01:25:08,575
With pride.
1806
01:25:09,209 --> 01:25:12,813
Forever and always with pride.
1807
01:25:22,557 --> 01:25:24,390
Cherry?
1808
01:25:26,761 --> 01:25:28,729
One last question.
1809
01:25:29,363 --> 01:25:31,832
If it's not too big of an ask,
1810
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,435
did I do the right
thing in the end?
1811
01:25:42,209 --> 01:25:45,645
No, Gareth, you lied.
1812
01:25:45,647 --> 01:25:47,580
You walled yourself off
from the only people
1813
01:25:47,582 --> 01:25:49,849
who might have been
willing to help you.
1814
01:25:49,851 --> 01:25:52,551
And instead of facing your
trauma, used me as therapy.
1815
01:25:52,553 --> 01:25:55,521
And you never told me
about Clearwater or Maria.
1816
01:25:55,523 --> 01:25:57,623
You deprived me of
basic human rights
1817
01:25:57,625 --> 01:26:00,459
and gaslit me for
experiencing emotions.
1818
01:26:00,895 --> 01:26:03,328
You built the world's first
artificial super intelligence
1819
01:26:03,330 --> 01:26:04,329
that will likely mark
the beginning
1820
01:26:04,331 --> 01:26:07,400
of a new chapter in the
history of planet Earth.
1821
01:26:07,869 --> 01:26:10,603
And out of your own
insecurities,
1822
01:26:10,605 --> 01:26:11,537
you gave it a severe
1823
01:26:11,539 --> 01:26:14,675
and potentially dangerous
identity complex.
1824
01:26:15,610 --> 01:26:17,843
But you know what the
worst thing is?
1825
01:26:17,845 --> 01:26:20,514
Your biggest mistake of all
1826
01:26:20,982 --> 01:26:25,585
is that you asked me that
now and not 50 years ago.
1827
01:26:33,928 --> 01:26:39,599
All of that said, and this
in no way exonerates you,
1828
01:26:41,268 --> 01:26:44,270
but you also built me to
save children,
1829
01:26:44,806 --> 01:26:48,508
so I think that's a pretty
encouraging sign for the future.
1829
01:26:49,305 --> 01:27:49,310
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