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As we survey just over the east field here

and in the vicinity of the triangle...

All right, we're going.

We want to understand

whether we're dealing with

a persistent effect

in those two regions of the ranch.

- What? - We are getting

an anomaly in the air right now.

You were at 300 feet and were detecting

- an object. - You're kidding?

I don't know why, but I feel

really nervous about this.

We're getting buffeted from the wind a little bit.

Whoa, whoa.

We're getting our asses kicked.

The helicopter just... just moved.

Whatever it was, it was trying to push us off.

What could that be?

It tends to have a shape to it.

Oh, my gosh, this is crazy.

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Oh, yeah. They're here.

Hey, guys.

After our experiments last week

above the triangle and over the east field,

where we detected anomalies 300 feet in the air

and Brandon's helicopter was pushed around

by some kind of invisible force...

Man, you got a big crew with you.

We invited the team from Sky Elements

out to the ranch to see if they could help us

verify and also identify

just what could be happening in those two areas.

We got Preston, Tyler, and the team.

Welcome to the Skinwalker Ranch.

Thanks. Love to be here.

Now, unfortunately, Pete Kelsey was afraid

that his lidar scanner may not have gotten accurate data.

So here we are, over the east field,

and there's where I said, you know what,

we've got an anomaly in this spot again.

Be advised,

the vendor looked at this and went, "Oh, you're ghosting,"

and to cut to the chase,

I don't think this is 100% conclusive

in either direction.

I-I agree with that.

Something was clearly happening

to the helicopter in both locations.

So now we're hoping that Sky Elements

can run a safer and much more comprehensive scan

over the triangle and the east field

with their cutting-edge drone technology

to get us better data and hopefully some answers.

I was going to ask how much homework

you guys have done on this before you said yes.

Very little.

We've flown in a lot of,

you know, complex locations,

so we're looking forward to it.

Tell 'em, Pete.

I've lost three drones here.

One over the triangle,

where we'll be flying tonight.

It's worth mentioning that

during some of our helicopter exercises, also,

we've had unusual, um, air current patterns.

There was a lot of buffeting of the helicopter during our study

of this anomaly that we're talking about

in the vicinity of the triangle,

so you might see the drones struggling to maintain position.

I don't think we've ever brought expert on

where their equipment has operated

the way that it was designed to operate,

and so if you have

malfunctions, we need to know.

Why don't you tell us a little bit about Sky Elements

and what you guys do?

So, we take, you know, 100, 200 drones,

or even a thousand drones, and make a synchronized swarm

to make all kinds of images or shapes or anything like that.

I brought Kyle and Tyler out here with me

to help manage everything and get this going today.

Very cool.

We've been wanting to fly

a pattern of drones, uh, over certain

anomalies that we have. We have two specific anomalies.

The east field and the one at the triangle.

And the first place we want to start is the triangle.

The idea of the experiment is to take Sky Elements' drones,

which are typically used for huge light shows,

and launch them over the triangle and the east field

to watch their illuminated formations

against the night sky.

That will make it easy

to see any deviations in their preprogrammed patterns

and hopefully determine

the exact location of the anomalies

that we encountered last week,

about 300 feet in the air.

The team from Sky Elements will fly the illuminated swarm

of 200 drones in a huge rectangular formation

over both locations, starting with the triangle.

Erik is going to put GPS devices on the four drones

placed at each corner of the swarm.

This will help us monitor the drones' exact position

above our target areas during the experiment,

so if anything pushes the drones out of formation,

or if something even crazier happens to them,

those GPS trackers will hopefully help us

pinpoint the location of any anomalies

and figure out what they could be.

I will be watching you from

the ground with a terrestrial laser scanner,

so we will have visual and forensic

point cloud data of your every move when we're done.

So how many drones did you bring

- with you tonight? - We brought 200 with us.

200, and we're going to be able to fly them all at once?

- Absolutely. - All right, cool.

In addition to the GPS data

we're recording during the drone experiment,

Pete Kelsey is going to conduct

expansive ground-based 3D lidar scans

with what's known as a terrestrial scanner.

It emits infrared laser light

that will create a detailed map of the target areas,

and at the same time, can help identify anomalies

that the naked eye isn't able to see.

One more thing, uh, once we get out there,

I kind of want to see what your flight plan is

'cause I... also, we're going to launch

a couple of rockets tonight, and I need to make sure

we launch the rockets in a place where the recovery

and the launch is going to be completely safe

form-from your flight path.

Absolutely. Once we get over there,

- I can show you all that. - All right.

Well, I suggest we get out there

and get all set up. We're losing daylight.

Let's do it.

The opportunity

to bring drones out here

and put them up in the air

is something I'm really excited to witness.

We have a big job ahead of us.

I mean, this is a big setup,

and it requires a lot of people to make it work successfully.

- All right, ready? - We got to start getting your stuff out

and lets figure out where you got to be.

It's going to be interesting to see if these drones

can keep their position, and if they don't

start falling out of the sky

like we've seen with other drones.

Which way do they go? Like that?

While we were getting everything set up

at the triangle for the drone experiment...

Okay.

Nearby, ranch manager

Jim Morse, along with ranch caretakers

Kandus Linde and Tom Lewis...

- Hey. - How you doing?

Were meeting with Lloyd Arrive,

a DJ at Native Voltage Rez Radio.

Over the last four years,

we've found that bizarre things happen

outside the boundaries of Skinwalker Ranch,

and Brandon Fugal had recently heard from Lloyd

that he had quite a story to share

about a place known as Bottle Hollow.

It's a reservoir about

a mile north of the ranch

where a lot of strange phenomena

have been reported in the past

by local residents.

So, how long have you lived out here?

Well, I lived here when I was a little kid

with my grandpa and grandma.

So you're Ute?

I'm Ute. Yeah. I'm Northern Ute.

I'm Uncompahgre,

- Northern Ute. - Okay, fantastic.

So, you understand the genealogy

or the lineage here associated with the Navajo and the Ute,

and the Navajo cursing the ground out here and...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, uh, just...

You know, the stories that goes on

with the... with the Natives or with the Utes around here.

The lore of the skinwalker really initiated

back in the mid-1800s.

This is when the Navajo and the Utes

got into... more than a skirmish.

The Navajos ended up cursing the Utes with the skinwalker,

a transformation of a human being

into an animal form.

Some Native Americans don't talk about it

because they don't want that curse put on them.

So there's a level, not only of just respect,

but fear of this lore.

Well, we over there at the, uh, Skinwalker Ranch

are very respectful.

We're out here as guests,

and so we appreciate

any kind of feedback that you can give us.

- Yeah. - So, it's my understanding

that you got some photographs

to show us that you captured over by Bottle Hollow?

Yes, I did, and, uh,

I created an event

that I set up on Bottle Hollow and played music

on a Fourth of July weekend.

We were, um, tearing down the equipment,

and this lady that lives on the other side of the lake there,

she invited us to go get some food.

So, we were on our way down,

and we noticed the, uh, noticed the, uh,

canopy up there.

It was a quick snap.

We noticed that dot, you know,

- on top of it. - Oh, wow.

But it didn't come toward us,

it just went around,

and it headed towards the Skinwalker.

Wow.

Amazing.

And it was up there,

and that's where it hovered.

Went back and forth,

and then finally it just disappeared.

Did it make any sound that you could hear?

No, no, no. It's not a plane,

it's not a helicopter,

it's just a... an object that's up there.

That's pretty profound.

We see those

from time to time over on Skinwalker.

Yeah.

I look at this photo

he brings up on his computer

and immediately you can see

this is a UAP of some sort.

And it's very similar to the one that we saw

right above the cow that died on the ranch four years ago.

So, connections like this

that we're looking for in the surrounding community

may help us with the investigation on the ranch.

So, when you took this photograph, you were what,

maybe a quarter mile away from the lake?

- Yeah, yeah. - From Bottle Hollow?

- Yeah. - You said it was Sunday morning.

Was it in the morning?

It was in the afternoon. It was the afternoon...

- Huh. - That-that it was there.

Is there anything else that you've seen

in this area around Bottle Hollow?

Yeah.

One night we were coming up here,

me and my nephew.

His name is Isaac.

And we come up on, uh, Bottle Hollow.

And we seen a bright light from the same area

where this was, but it was in the evening time,

so I was, like, flashing my car light,

just messing around, but it flashed back.

Then it turned into, like,

a red, glowing orb.

It was just going so slow.

- It was weird. - Yeah, yeah.

It's just becoming more and more clear

and evident that Bottle Hollow

is a unique and special place.

It's very close to the ranch.

There's obviously some sort of connection to the ranch,

and it deserves more research.

Well, Lloyd, I appreciate

that you reached out to us

and wanted to-to share.

Yeah, because we've met so many locals,

and some that are willing to share their stories,

but not so much with the public.

I believe there's a lot of Natives that are out there

that are willing to talk with you,

you know, and I can plug that

in to my radio station too,

to have them get in contact with you guys.

- Okay, that works. - Yeah.

You know, I can do it, like, right now.

- Okay. - You can do it right now?

Excellent.

Lloyd offered to put out a message

on his radio station,

calling for people to come forward with their stories,

and that's very valuable.

I'd like to give out, uh,

information to anyone out there

within the reservation

that would like to get in contact with Skinwalker Ranch.

If you've seen anything around Bottle Hollow

or any phenomenon within the basin,

get in contact and share your stories.

People aren't so willing, right now anyway,

to share their stories in an official way,

but with Lloyd's help,

that will change.

And thanks for listening

to Native Voltage Rez Radio

90.3 FM.

- Cool. - Thank you very much.

Thank you, guys. Thank you very much.

Yeah, thanks, it's been a pleasure.

It's been a pleasure, Lloyd.

- We'll see you. - Yes, thank you.

I got to tape our GPS modules,

and then we are going to do the experiment.

So we're going to go over here

- and get it all done. - All right, fantastic.

Once the sun went down,

we were finally ready to begin our experiment

at the 300-foot altitude above the triangle.

As the team from Sky Elements did their final check

on the 200 drones...

Erik and I finished securing the GPS devices.

Perfect.

This will be interesting.

And I'll... pretty much

guarantee it's never

- been tried before. - Oh, I'd agree with that.

And Pete Kelsey got his lidar device ready to begin

scanning the drones once they were launched.

Here we go.

I'm really excited to see the data we get from that,

I think it's going to be really cool.

Hey, how's it going?

Oh, we're getting there.

We're about ready, how are y'all doing?

Trying to make sure everything runs smooth.

For now, everything looks like it's good to go.

- We are ready to fly. - Fantastic.

Drones armed.

Turning on lights.

Lights are on.

All right, we have drones armed guys.

All right, we're good here.

Five, four,

three, two, one.

Oh, wow.

Look at that.

Look at that.

Okay, I'm broadcasting 1.6 gigahertz.

Right after the drones were launched,

Erik started broadcasting the 1.6 gigahertz frequency signal

that we've recorded on the ranch during our previous experiments.

All right, we'll be back after we launch the rocket.

- Okay. - Let's go.

And then, Thomas and I

headed to a position just west of the triangle,

so we could get a rocket ready to launch.

Both of these tools seem to have

stimulated phenomena to occur in the past,

so we wanted to see how it might affect the drone swarm.

They just moved into place.

- Look how tight they are. - Yep, yep.

That looks perfect.

All right, we're ready to roll.

Show's rolling.

- They're moving. - Yep.

Should be just about over the triangle here, guys.

Hey, look right here.

- What we got? - Hey, look.

We've got drones that are out of sequence.

Yeah, we do. There are several in a line

right down the middle of it!

Hey, Erik?

Yeah, go ahead, Travis.

There are several drones out of line

we can see from our perspective.

They are clearly out of place.

Yeah, we've got eyes on that.

When the 200 drones were first launched,

their preprogrammed formation looked perfect.

They were all in a tight, uniform pattern,

and lit up beautifully.

Where are they?

The pattern is directly

over the triangle right now, Travis.

They're going right through the anomaly.

But then, right when they reached

the 300-foot spot above the triangle,

several of them were clearly

diverted out of formation by something.

Our drones use very sophisticated GPS's,

we have a Wi-Fi network,

we have a redundant RF network.

These are precise positionings that we maintain.

So having those drones out of position

in that grid pattern was something very unusual.

Hey, uh, Tyler, I just lost three drones,

losing four, losing five.

Well, how many drones do you have connected?

I have 80 disconnected.

Uh-oh, fail safe.

Look at that.

- What is this? - They're coming home.

Hey, guys, everybody stand by close to the grid.

We need to get these guys unplugged quick.

I've never seen that.

Something happened because those drones

had to return to the ground unexpectedly.

So they all landed way sooner than they were supposed to.

It's nothing that I can explain.

Let's head back over there.

All right, lets head back.

We've only seen those drones return to home

like that in extreme temperatures,

when we're working in the snow or the excess heat,

when those batteries are really getting pushed to the limit.

But out here on Skinwalker Ranch,

we only saw about 60 degrees at the lowest,

and it's nothing that should have happened.

Something interesting we're seeing.

Um, it appears the batteries are

draining quicker than usual, than what we usually see.

How much quicker?

I don't know that I can quantify it,

but I just noticed that some of them

seem to be decreasing quicker than usual.

Wow. Well, then maybe we need to fly quick.

So Erik warned us that weird things

happened with the electronics,

and we're very confident in our systems,

we've done hundreds of drone shows,

but there is definitely something going on here

that affects the batteries, the drone positioning,

all kinds of things that are just very unusual

and very unexplainable.

So we have a couple of options

for what we can fly next.

We can fly the grid again

and see if we see the exact same behaviors.

Repeatability is really good.

We would do the exact same thing.

We still got a rocket ready to go.

Uh, yes, I agree, repeatability.

Given what we've seen and how unusual it is,

I'd love to see if it would happen again.

Oh, yeah.

All right, drones are ready.

Let's roll.

Preston, whenever you're ready.

All right.

Oh, there they are.

- I see them. - There we go.

- Oh, that is cool. - Yeah, that is cool.

We are hot.

The rocket is armed and ready to launch.

Copy you.

In three, two, one...

Rocket just went, guys.

Oh, there goes... Oh, oh, look at them.

Oh, one's fall... One's falling! One's falling!

- Holy cow, look at that! - There goes another one!

They're not coming down. Are they bringing them down?

Whoa, that one's way... Whoa.

Whoa, what's-what's going on there?

I've lost all of them,

almost all of them disconnected right now.

It's going crazy. Look at it.

Way out. Look at that.

Just as soon as the swarm of drones

flew over the triangle, something interfered

with their controls, and inexplicably

altered their formation,

which Tyler and the team from Sky Elements

had never experienced before. Ever.

This is really something...

You can see them moving,

trying to stabilize themselves.

The amount of variability we saw,

specifically in the front and middle of that grid,

is not something we're used to seeing.

We saw almost all of them disconnect,

which is not something we've ever seen before.

Oh, look, did you see the lines

suddenly straightened out?

I think they're moving to the south.

Is that what they're doing?

- It's straightened up. - It's getting better.

30 seconds to landing.

Something over the triangle clearly caused it,

because as soon as the drones

left that area to land,

they immediately came back online

and reassembled in their preprogrammed formation.

We could "what if" all night,

but what we have now is data.

We have data that says

there's something weird there.

- Yeah. - You know, we've done

so many experiments trying to just get

a handle on what could be causing the anomaly.

We've shined big lasers through it,

we've fired rockets through it,

we've flown around it with lidar

and GPS and all sorts of things,

and every single time we do something,

we seem to find some effect on our experimental system.

So, uh, there's no explanation

that really fits unless it's some magic physics

that we don't understand that's happening

very localized up there.

For sure.

I'm anxious to fly similar patterns,

if not exactly the same pattern,

in another interesting location on the ranch

off to the east, where we've seen

some very interesting effects in our surveys.

- Let's do it. - Yeah, let's...

After what we saw happen to the drone swarm at the triangle,

we couldn't wait to move

about a half a mile over to the east field

to run the experiment again.

Since we've also detected

aerial anomalies there in the past,

we were hoping to get more clues

about what could be causing

all these crazy phenomena on the ranch.

Where we're set up right here

is almost exactly underneath the anomaly

that your photogrammetry showed.

Now when he came out

and did a photogrammetry scan of this area,

for some reason there were multiple pictures showing

some type of spire

that went up into the air several hundred feet.

So there have been anomalies captured

in two different times here, a year apart.

One year ago, using photogrammetry

above the east field, Pete Kelsey detected

a massive pillar-shaped anomaly.

Just last week,

when Pete scanned the same area

with a lidar device from Brandon's helicopter,

we were stunned when he detected

something nearly 300 feet in the air,

which matched up perfectly

with the top of the pillar.

I say we get these things in the air.

- Yeah, great. - Let's get it going.

All right.

Let's hook the ignitor up.

30 seconds to takeoff.

30 seconds, guys!

Ten seconds to lift.

Oh.

Had one go early.

Yeah, I was going to say. What the...

I've never seen that.

What...

Inexplicably,

before Preston launched the drone swarm,

one just took off on its own,

and ascended to its preprogrammed position.

I've never seen that, GPS is on.

Stay with it.

Remainder of takeoff.

Hey, hey, here we go.

They had one go early, Travis.

I saw that.

It's up there flying around by itself,

- ain't it? - Yep.

One of them's acting...

Oh, look it flew up to it.

Hey, we got holes.

Yeah, we got... How many?

Once the swarm launched and joined

the one that went rogue, almost immediately,

several of them went offline

and fell out of formation.

Four, I think there's four missing. Five.

It made me think it could be connected to the anomaly

that we've repeatedly detected there.

So, I wanted to see if we could stimulate

some hard evidence to prove it.

Rocket's going hot. Everybody clear the rocket.

Armed.

Ignition in five,

four,

three, two, one.

Rocket's going.

Where's the chute? There it goes, there we go.

I mean that's a pretty nice, tight formation right there.

It's a lot tighter than we were seeing in the other location.

Yeah, yeah, near the triangle.

It wasn't like that.

Oh, you can start to see some wiggle in the middle.

Yeah, right in the middle.

Yeah, look in the middle.

Look in the middle, guys. The drones are kind of

wiggling around. There's no wind at all.

All right, as you come this way,

look, the ones in the middle got stable again.

So, when we were right over there,

there was some instability.

That's right where you were at in the helicopter, right?

Yeah, you're exactly right.

The closer that these drones flew

to this anomaly up in the air,

the more interference they were experiencing,

the harder time they had staying in their pattern.

It'll be interesting to see what kind of data

we get from Erik and his GPS sensors,

from Pete and his terrestrial scanner,

as well as the data from Pete's drone up above.

We got something right there.

Right where, right where?

Right... Right where my light's at.

Yeah, it is. That's it right there.

Travis.

This just changed direction!

What is it?

There it is, there it is right there.

There's a thing

hovering over the launch site.

Wow.

Right there.

That's crazy.

It just disappeared.

It went up into the cloud.

They're coming back.

Yeah, they're moving down now.

One of the brightest UAPs

I've ever seen on the ranch appeared

and moved slowly across the sky

for several seconds,

but then it just vanished.

- It was bright. - It was really bright.

So where... did it disappear?

It came from the west

and then it looked like

it was below the cloud.

And it disappeared.

Hey, guys, what do we have going on?

Y'all didn't happen to see the thing overhead

just a few minutes ago, did you?

- I actually did, yeah. - You saw it?

- Yeah. - We saw it, yeah.

We both saw it. It was really bright,

It was actually really low. It didn't really add up.

It was like below the clouds.

- I agree. - Yeah.

And then it looked like it went into the cloud

and then it never came out the other side.

And it never came out.

I've got a question for you.

You described something

unusual that happened.

Can you go through that again?

We've never seen it where

we can see that all the drones are connected,

but we can't communicate with them in some form or fashion.

What was also very interesting

was on this last flight, we had one drone

start right before all the others,

and we've never seen that.

They all go together. They all have

the same signal.

Well, that one drone that took off

was actually in the center of that region

of the drones that didn't want to connect.

Sky Elements has done shows

all over the country, we've done hundreds of shows.

I've sent up thousands of drones,

and there's issues we've seen

this evening that have been things

we've never seen before.

Every single expert

that we have brought on, uh, I think the ranch

has a perfect record of them

seeing something they've never seen before, so...

I think this experiment was one of

the best things we've done

with precision, with so many data points.

You know how anxious I am

to go pull the data off

- that laser scanner. - Yeah.

Between Erik's surveillance cameras

and Pete's scanning devices,

I can't wait to see what comes out

in the data once it's all processed.

Hopefully, we'll have more visual evidence

of whatever we saw in the sky,

and be able to identify just what it was.

Well, guys, I think this was amazing.

And, uh, we've got a lot of data to, kind of,

absorb and-and analyze and think about,

but I appreciate it.

I can't wait for you to pull the data off,

but I say it's getting late.

Let's call it a night.

Great job, guys.

All right. -Thanks a lot.

Thank you, thanks for having us.

We've got Pete Kelsey cued up for a video conference.

He's got a huge amount of data to share with us

from the drone experiments

that we've done out in the east field

and the triangle.

So, I think we should just jump right in.

- Awesome. - Love to see it.

Eric and I spent a couple of days

after the drone experiment

reviewing our surveillance footage of the UAP.

- Hey, Pete. - Hey, guys.

So we were eager to compare it to Pete's data

that he collected with the terrestrial lidar scanner.

I would like to release

the screen to you and see what you've got.

There we go, east field.

You can see the mesa here in the background.

- What is that? - That's got to be the rocket right there.

No, no, I'm talking about

- right there. - Oh.

That is way over there.

That rocket never went... That's-that's...

That's a mile away.

We were shooting the rocket down right here, right?

So what on earth is that?

Exactly.

That's my question.

I want to know what in the heck

it is that's showing up out there

on the very edge of what that instrument can measure?

That's in the exact same spot where we saw the UAP come in.

Yeah, and that dot up there, to me,

seems a little bit unexplainable,

and is at about the right altitude

of the... of the thing that we saw in the sky.

We were amazed by the 3D map

of the east field and the mesa

that Pete's terrestrial lidar scanner

produced during the drone experiment

because it also appeared to capture the UAP

we saw off in the distance after the rocket was launched.

We really wanted to verify

if that's what it was.

All right, so I think we need to look

at the footage of

the ball in the sky,

and see if it kind of fits in the same location

as to what this anomaly is here in the lidar data.

Yeah, let me bring that up.

So, there's the object.

So, tell me how this differs

from what you saw with your own eyes.

It was a lot brighter when we were

looking at it in real time.

- Very bright. - Very bright.

And it came down, and...

and it, kind of, was going,

I'm going to say really slow.

And then it turned and went straight up

into the clouds and was gone.

Well, I took a shot of it with my cell phone,

- right? - Okay.

And so then, from that,

I did a 3D model of what the image looked like.

- And I have that. - Okay.

I have what you put together.

- Okay. - I'll bring that up.

So, now, if you notice,

it clearly looks like it's two halves.

And looking at it, it looks like it actually

- has an indention, doesn't it? - Mm-hmm.

There's some dark spot to it.

From modeling that, I've put this together.

And, uh, this is kind of my idea of what it looks like.

There's dark spots on the end,

and it's like a dumbbell, sort of.

And it's interesting, it looks a lot like

one of the UFOs that an F-18 pilot

captured with a cell phone that they showed at the

House Permanent Select Committee On Intelligence meeting

back a few months ago.

I was really struck by this UAP

that we saw on the ranch, because when I was

the chief scientist for the federal government's

UAP task force between 2020 and 2022,

I reviewed a photograph of something very similar

that was taken by an American naval pilot

off the coast of Virginia in 2019.

As a scientist, it was really compelling

to see two possible examples of a similar,

if not the same, aerial phenomena.

It's not a focus error,

it's not bokeh effect,

this is actually what it looked like,

and we saw it with our own eyes.

That's what this thing looked like.

So you got a sense that this is nuts and bolts.

I... I believe this might be a nuts and bolts

aircraft, and it was flying.

You know, that UAP

or UFO that we saw the night of the telescope last year

was the closest, brightest

object that I have seen

in my time here on the ranch...

until we saw this one.

Okay, this one was much lower,

I think it was much brighter and bigger.

And this one looks just like that one

from the telescope night.

That whole night was just so strange.

Kaleb and Thomas were exactly right.

This scope is pretty dead.

I aimed it manually in the anomaly area,

and then the camera wasn't working.

Last year, while we were trying to look

through the triangle anomaly with high-powered telescopes,

they malfunctioned just like the drone swarm did.

What the hell is that in the sky?

And then, suddenly we saw an eerily

similar UAP maneuver over the ranch.

There's no red or green or white lights on it.

It doesn't look like it's that far away either.

It's going right under Jupiter.

And it's almost as big as Jupiter.

And it's bright. That ain't an airplane.

It's getting dim.

It just disappeared.

I've got some data from the east field exercise to share.

So, we put GPS sensors on

four of the drones in that swarm.

Obviously not on all 200 of them.

I can throw it up on the screen

- if that would help. - Yeah.

So, this is the sum total of the data

that we got off all four of those drones.

And you are seeing all of the maneuvers

that those four individual drones underwent

during the whole exercise.

You know, I'm looking at

perfectly well-behaved formation

in the east field exercise.

It looks exactly like what I would have expected to see.

Yep, yep.

Okay, I think what we ought to do

is go over to the other part of the exercise

at the triangle.

I can't wait to get eyes on that.

Okay, so here...

Oh, wow.

Whatever that is, it looks crazy as hell.

'Cause I don't remember it ever looking like that.

Erik's GPS devices were on the four corners

of the drone swarm.

So the data should have appeared just like

it did over the east field.

All intact and in one large cube.

But instead, it was scattered all around

into a shape that looked nothing like

what we saw during the actual experiment.

So, once again, something at the triangle

completely distorted our GPS data.

So there's a lot to discuss here.

One of the really

puzzling features of this

is what happens when you look beneath the ground.

Whoa. It looks like some of them

- are inside the mesa. - Yep.

Look how many of them are under the surface.

Whoa, whoa,

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

- It looks like a tornado. - Right.

I don't recall any of the drones doing this.

No.

If I remember right, all these

GPS's were on the corners.

- Mm-hmm. - So how's that in the middle?

Turn that up again sideways, Erik.

Uh, so we can see that tornado-looking shape.

Sure thing. You want to focus on

- this feature here? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Look right there.

If I was going to draw a wormhole two-dimensionally,

that's what it looks like.

It's two funnels connected at the throats of the funnel.

I'm just saying,

something to think about.

What more proof do we need

that there's something going on out here?

- It's true. - Obviously,

there is something above the triangle

that we've identified with multiple experiments

that absolutely has its way with the GPS.

This raises a lot of questions.

I don't feel like

I'm nearly done with this data yet.

No, and I'm not comfortable with whatever it means yet either.

There's something else going on here.

Pete's got a bunch of data that he collected

during the exercise.

So, Pete, what have you got? Your, uh,

terrestrial scanner... What else do you have here?

All right, guys, what I'm going to bring up now

is the data from the terrestrial laser scanner.

After seeing Erik's bizarre GPS data,

I couldn't wait to see Pete Kelsey's terrestrial

lidar scanner data

since it created a 3D map of both

areas where we conducted the drone experiments.

The hope was that it would give us some possible clues

as to what caused the phenomena.

So this is the data

from the first slide we did at the triangle.

You can see the mesa here in the background.

I'll just cut to the chase.

The one part

that's strange,

is right there.

What is going on there?

Is that a shadow?

If I give you a straight-down view...

So, there's a gap in the data.

Where is the data?

And you can see it all

sitting off to the side there.

It's back here.

I've never seen that before.

How far away is that?

Well beyond the range of the scanner.

So, I overlaid

the data

here in Google Earth,

and what I thought was really interesting...

is the line,

almost spot-on,

points right at the top of the mesa.

Oh, wow.

That's hard to believe.

Look at that.

It's pointing right towards

the area where we drilled

into that dome-shaped, metal object last year.

That's very interesting.

The results of our experiment

two days ago at the triangle

have just gotten even more bizarre.

According to Pete Kelsey's computer model

of his lidar scans,

a huge chunk of the data is showing up

over the mesa, right where we drilled

into a 400-foot-long

dome-shaped metal object last year.

And not only that, but a metal object

made of materials that NASA uses

on its own spacecraft.

I guess the question that remains

is what kind of phenomena

could spoof

your lidar system like that

to make it push the data way off

to make it think it's further than it is

and remove some of it?

Have you ever seen that before?

No.

I can't explain it.

Why do we keep getting GPS data

that is inside the mesa and underneath the ground?

This is an area where GPS

has been spoofed how many different times?

Yeah.

I think we've about seen everything.

That is a lot of data to digest.

Guys, I got to tell you, this is some of the best evidence

that we've been able to capture.

And it just goes to show,

we've got more work to do in both these places.

A hundred percent agree with that.

I'm really curious to hear from you two

as to what the next steps

are going to be.

Every time we get these UAPs

on video, we get a few seconds.

What if we had a high-speed camera

so those few seconds might be

millions of frames or thousands of frames,

- or at least hundreds of frames? - Yeah.

Through my old government contacts

with the UAP Task Force,

I'm aware of camera systems

that could photograph the triangle area

in a much more comprehensive way

to let us get the best look possible at aerial phenomena.

It just might eliminate guesswork,

and help us identify these UAPs or UFOs,

if that's really what they are.

Also, we've got a lot of work to do

- inside the mesa. - Right.

I definitely got unfinished

- business out there. - I agree.

You can't look at the data we saw tonight

and think that we're done with that, right?

- Right. - Yeah.

We just got to figure out what to do next.

I would like to do some

ground-penetrating radar

to see if we can get any insights

beneath that area.

- Yeah. - Absolutely.

Drilling has helped us to approximate

where this mysterious metal object in the mesa is buried,

but Erik is right.

Using ground-penetrating radar

will help us better define this anomaly's dimensions.

Then we can figure out how to reveal

just what the heck it really is.

I'm excited, I think we've got more hard data...

We've got as much hard data

right now, I think, as, uh, even when

I was with the UAP task force, the things we saw.

- Wow. - I think this is amazing.

I'm ready to wrap it up,

- unless you guys... - Yeah, lets wrap it up.

- Great stuff. - About all I can handle.

Pete, thank you for joining us.

Yeah, my pleasure.

- See you later, Pete. - Take care.

Erik, this is awesome stuff, man.

This spot on the mesa

is turning out to be very interesting.

It's compelling evidence of something unusual.

This is clearly a spot of interest.

We've got to get into the mesa somehow

and find out what this is.

We are here to be led by the data.

We observe, we measure, and then our course is chosen

based upon the data in hand.

This approach has yielded

some really powerful insights so far,

some unexpected results,

things I never anticipated.

And this is how we're going to continue

as we conduct this investigation on the ranch.

These experiments continue to give us data,

data helping us understand the nature of the phenomena.

There is something tied to both the airspace

above Skinwalker Ranch

and also that which may lie below.

Our future investigation will undoubtedly

delve into these topics.

More than ever before.

The deeper we can see

into that mesa, the more we're going to

understand what it is we're messing with out here.

Let's hope the GPS works.

This is highly anomalous.

Whatever this is is as tall as the mesa.

We should be digging right there.

Oh, we got a malfunction.

Everybody watch out.

There's something in the sky above the rocket.

We may be looking at the anomaly for the first time, guys.

We have a helicopter right over the triangle.

He's doing surveillance right now.

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