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[Girl crying]
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Why'd you call us? What
about your investigation?
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We didn't know what to
do with him. Wanted some..
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Guidance from the
prosecutor's office.
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She was in the car?
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Mother's coming to pick her up.
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He got out and
fought in front of her?
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- Where is this genius?
- He's in with his attorney.
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A cop said his first call was
911, second was his wife.
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And third was his
lawyer. So who is he?
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Greg Paulson.
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English professor,
central Indiana.
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English professor?
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(Annabeth) 'This guy
killed someone in a fight?'
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road rage. Says the
other driver attacked him.
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He fought back.
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Looks like a lover,
not a fighter. Alcohol?
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He did take a voluntary
breathalyzer at the scene.
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- Not a drop.
- Who's the victim?
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According to his driver's
license, Mark riggs.
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Coroner's prelim, blunt
force trauma, fractured skull.
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- Broken right forearm.
- Defensive wound.
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- That'd be my guess.
- Weapon?
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Bloody crowbar next to the body.
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- Whose crowbar?
- Probably the victim's.
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There were some loose
tools in his pickup, a hard hat.
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A construction
worker, carpenter.
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Anything else?
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Passenger side window of
Paulson's minivan was smashed.
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Few pieces of glass
in the kid's car seat.
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We're lucky she wasn't cut up.
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- Witnesses?
- It was dark, happened fast.
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- In other words..
- We're working on it.
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There's nobody helpful yet.
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[Knocking on door]
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Annabeth. So glad you're here.
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My client's ready to talk.
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You're letting a
client talk, Paul?
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That's a novel strategy.
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Well, you know the
adage, annabeth.
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The truth will set you free.
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Do I look like the kind
of guy who'd start a fight?
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Or finish one? I teach
chaucer for god's sake.
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I wanted to get home
with my daughter
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and have dinner with my wife.
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- Guy cut me off.
- Did you provoke him?
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Flip him off, honk your horn?
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Not until he swerved
in front of me.
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He blocked the road,
wouldn't let me pass.
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I honked. I got
out to talk to him.
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And... he just went off on me.
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Why didn't you back
up and drive away?
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I would have. But there was
a car behind me. I got blocked.
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You left your three-year-old
in the car, Mr. Paulson.
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I just wanted to talk to him.
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I didn't think he was going
to attack me with a crowbar.
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Where did he get the crowbar?
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Maybe from the
back of his truck.
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Alright, walk me through
exactly what happened
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when you and
riggs got into this.
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- That's his name?
- 'Mark riggs.'
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oh.
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He pushed me.
He started yelling.
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- And you pushed back.
- Just to keep him away from me.
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Why not get back in your car?
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Mr. Paulson wasn't the
aggressor here, miss chase.
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Under Indiana law he
had no duty to retreat.
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I wanted to, believe me. Then
suddenly he's holding a crowbar
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slamming it at
Courtney's window.
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He shattered it
into a million pieces.
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I mean, thank god
for safety glass.
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At that point, I had no choice.
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I had to protect
her, fight back.
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How did you get the
crowbar away from him?
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I don't know how.
I just went berserk.
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Into another zone. Managed
to wrestle it away from him.
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- And then?
- I told him to back off.
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He just kept coming,
so, uh... I hit him.
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- How many times?
- Once.
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- Just once?
- Mm-hmm, in the head.
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And then he just collapsed.
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I just wanted to keep
him away from Courtney.
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Miss chase.
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- Hi. Sarah Paulson.
- Hi, Mrs. Paulson.
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- Are you releasing Greg?
- Not tonight.
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It wasn't his fault. He
said that man attacked him.
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We're looking into
his story, Mrs. Paulson.
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There's some things
we need to clear up.
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Please, just let him come
home with me. With us.
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(Annabeth) 'I'll talk to
my boss in the morning'
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'and we'll decide how
to handle this case.'
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then you'll let him go?
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We have 72 hours to decide
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whether to charge
him or release him.
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Come on, sweetie.
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You notify riggs' family?
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Yeah, we're looking
for his next of kin.
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Contact number in
his wallet. Linda Miller.
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Just two guys driving home, huh?
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Yeah, should've
stayed in the car.
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Yeah, he should've.
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Alright, let me know
when you get the forensics.
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An English professor with
a nice wife and a little kid.
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I know. It's easier
when they're scum.
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[Police siren wailing]
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They were pushin' and shovin'.
Using the worst language.
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'Did you see either
man with a weapon?'
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- no, just their hands.
- Then what happened?
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I went back inside to call 911.
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When I came out
again, it was all over.
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As I pulled up, they were
getting out of their cars.
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- You know, bring it on.
- Who got out first?
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The guy in the pickup, I think.
But both of them were angry.
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Yelling and cursing, "what
the hell are you doing?"
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- You didn't stick around?
- Didn't seem that serious.
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Just two guys blowing off
steam at the end of a hard day.
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I did call 911.
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I was listening to radio news
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and I heard a car
window being smashed.
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We've had some
break-ins here recently
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so I found my glasses
and I went outside.
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How long did you
take to find them?
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Few minutes. They were upstairs.
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I don't need them for the radio.
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And then? When you went outside?
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One man was
laying on the ground.
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Another man was standing
over him, holding a crowbar.
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'The man on the
ground wasn't moving.'
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[intense music]
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So where are you
with the appeal?
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- Which?
- Vehicular homicide.
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The guy who killed
annabeth's husband.
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- Trent bishop.
- Bishop.
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I'm working on the reply brief.
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Is it a formality or does
bishop really have a chance?
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Afraid so.
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Breathalyzer hadn't
been recalibrated.
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You're kidding.
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Plenty of precedent for
granting him a new trial.
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- Does annabeth know?
- She asked to stay posted.
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I'll show her the
completed draft.
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Hopefully, we can
wrap this up quickly.
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I don't want her to relive
this whole ugly experience
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over a technicality.
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The professor
versus the carpenter.
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So, self-defense
or something else?
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Eyewitness testimony
is inconclusive.
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No one saw either man take
the crowbar from riggs' truck.
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Paulson claims riggs attacked
him, smashed in his car window
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'but forensics don't match.'
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'riggs' fingerprints
aren't on the crowbar.'
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- but Paulson's are.
- 'Yeah, what you'd expect.'
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but he also struck riggs twice.
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The first blow broke riggs'
arm, trying to defend himself.
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Paulson didn't need
to hit him on the head.
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- He was no longer in danger.
- If he had ever been.
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Let's see how he defends
himself against a murder charge.
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Street fights, road rage,
not great witnesses.
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'Wouldn't manslaughter be
an easier charge to make?'
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charge high, leave yourself
some room to negotiate.
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We may need it. Our
victim, riggs, had a record.
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- 'Dui, misdemeanor assault.'
- Assault?
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'Yeah. Few years ago. Some
kind of scuffle at the county fair.'
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he'd pled guilty, 20
hours community service.
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Let me guess, professor
Paulson has no record?
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Not even an unpaid
parking ticket.
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Sympathetic defendant,
unsympathetic victim.
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Paulson may be sympathetic
but the evidence says he's lying.
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The second blow,
the fingerprints.
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'Professor Paulson
claims self-defense'
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against a guy who's
bigger than him
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has a record of assault and dui
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'who cuts him off in traffic,
confronts him on the street.'
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jury might find that persuasive.
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This case is going to
come down to character.
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Riggs versus Paulson.
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From what I just heard,
Paulson's got it hands down.
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The murder of Mark riggs,
Mr. Paulson, how do you plead?
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Not guilty, your honor.
The defendant was acting
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in self-defense and
to protect his child.
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We plead his release
on his own recognizance.
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This is a murder
charge, your honor.
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Not a moving violation. We
ask the defendant be remanded.
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'Mr. Paulson has
no criminal record'
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tenure at the university,
strong ties to the community.
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Bail is set at $200,000.
Cash or bond.
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(Paul) 'Thank you, your honor.'
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I'll see you downstairs.
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Why so adamant, annabeth?
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Paulson's hardly public
enemy number one.
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Paulson left a child he was
supposedly trying to protect
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in the car alone while
he confronted riggs.
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Is this about leaving
the kid in the car?
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Forensics indicate
Paulson was the aggressor.
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He also lied to the police and
this office about what happened.
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Not lies, he gave contradictory
statements under stress.
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The lack of prints on the
crowbar doesn't mean anything.
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It will to a jury. Your client
picked up that crowbar, Paul.
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He struck Mr. Riggs
twice, not once.
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The second time
after disabling him.
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There's no way this
was self-defense.
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- Broken window in the mini-Van?
- Paulson broke it himself.
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Anyone see him
do it? Didn't think so.
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When you're ready to
be reasonable, call me.
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You'd be open to a deal?
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Well, if it involves
dropping the charges.
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Have a nice day.
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We need to paint a picture
of these two men for the jury.
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I'll take riggs.
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Let's talk to the
guy riggs assaulted.
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See if his testimony
will soften the jury.
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We ever reached that
emergency contact?
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Linda Miller, his ex-wife.
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See if she has anything
nice to say about him.
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I'm sure she won't have
nice things to say about him.
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Mine does.
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I didn't know
you've been married.
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Neither does she.
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I'll look into Paulson and see
what kind of family man he is.
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The kind who fights
in front of his kid.
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(Williams) 'Why
was she with him?'
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he picked her up from day care
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- on his way home.
- I'll check that out.
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It would be nice if one of
you could talk to Mrs. Paulson.
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She and annabeth
already spoke so I'll go.
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Why would she open the door?
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She left her daughter's
blanket at the precinct.
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I know, it's a long shot.
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Well, it might work. At
least it's a reason to knock.
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As fathers go, he
was pretty involved.
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Picked up Courtney
almost every day after work.
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That day, what kinda
mood was he in?
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Foul. He was running
late. It was getting dark.
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I was anxious to lock up and
go home. He seemed stressed.
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Courtney was cranky,
she wanted to go home.
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He yelled at me like it was
my fault she was the last here.
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- Is he usually bad-tempered?
- 'A lot. With everyone.'
243
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- huh. Seems so mild mannered.
- Used to be.
244
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He really changed a lot
after his little boy died.
245
00:11:18,928 --> 00:11:21,597
- He lost a child?
- About a year ago.
246
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Andrew. Three.
247
00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,268
Beautiful boy.
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Hit by a car right in
front of their house.
249
00:11:28,938 --> 00:11:31,524
- Man, that's tough.
- Yeah.
250
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Ever since that happened
251
00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:35,653
Mr. Paulson's just
been mad at the world.
252
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- I would be.
- Me, too. No question.
253
00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:43,452
Tell me exactly what happened
that day with this guy riggs.
254
00:11:43,494 --> 00:11:46,330
- You're at the fair..
- In line to get ice cream.
255
00:11:46,372 --> 00:11:47,748
My kids are goofing around.
256
00:11:47,790 --> 00:11:51,085
You know, not misbehaving,
just rambunctious.
257
00:11:51,127 --> 00:11:53,212
Suddenly, this guy's
going off on me.
258
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Yelling, telling me
to control my kids.
259
00:11:56,006 --> 00:11:58,050
Poking me in the
chest with his finger.
260
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The kids start
screaming and crying.
261
00:12:00,261 --> 00:12:02,555
It was a scene. Spoiled the day.
262
00:12:02,596 --> 00:12:05,558
- So you pressed charges.
- I thought twice about it.
263
00:12:05,599 --> 00:12:07,435
I heard he pled to a misdemeanor
264
00:12:07,476 --> 00:12:09,562
so tempers stay
in the tea pot, huh?
265
00:12:09,603 --> 00:12:11,147
You say you
thought twice about it.
266
00:12:11,188 --> 00:12:14,275
His ex-wife called me, asked
me to cut the guy a break.
267
00:12:14,316 --> 00:12:16,360
Said he'd been going
through a rough time.
268
00:12:16,402 --> 00:12:20,156
- Did she say why?
- No. I didn't ask.
269
00:12:21,490 --> 00:12:25,411
My husband's lawyer says I
shouldn't talk to you people.
270
00:12:25,453 --> 00:12:26,537
Mr. Boscoe's right.
271
00:12:26,579 --> 00:12:28,539
We can't compel
you to tell us anything
272
00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:30,916
your husband might
have told you that night.
273
00:12:30,958 --> 00:12:32,084
It's privileged.
274
00:12:32,126 --> 00:12:35,546
But I thought you might want
to talk about Greg in general.
275
00:12:35,588 --> 00:12:37,882
Why would I want to do that?
276
00:12:37,923 --> 00:12:39,508
We've been told your husband's
277
00:12:39,550 --> 00:12:42,094
been mad at the world
since your son died.
278
00:12:42,136 --> 00:12:44,513
He's been upset. I have too.
279
00:12:44,555 --> 00:12:47,183
We just... Deal
with it differently.
280
00:12:47,224 --> 00:12:50,436
I thought you might wanna
soften the picture of him a little.
281
00:12:50,478 --> 00:12:53,647
Why would you want to? You're
prosecuting him for murder.
282
00:12:53,689 --> 00:12:55,357
We're not monsters,
Mrs. Paulson.
283
00:12:55,399 --> 00:12:57,276
We wanna know what
really happened that night.
284
00:12:57,318 --> 00:13:02,156
Maybe this whole tragedy
doesn't have to end with a trial.
285
00:13:05,743 --> 00:13:09,497
Greg has been
depressed. Distant.
286
00:13:09,538 --> 00:13:12,208
I can understand how
people think he has a temper.
287
00:13:12,249 --> 00:13:15,085
He is angry, but
not at the world.
288
00:13:15,127 --> 00:13:20,007
He... blames himself
for what happened.
289
00:13:20,049 --> 00:13:22,426
Why? What happened?
290
00:13:22,468 --> 00:13:24,970
[Instrumental music]
291
00:13:25,012 --> 00:13:29,850
I wasn't home. I had taken
Courtney and gone shopping.
292
00:13:29,892 --> 00:13:33,979
They were out in
the yard playing.
293
00:13:34,021 --> 00:13:38,108
Andrew ran into the street.
294
00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:40,277
I'm so sorry.
295
00:13:40,319 --> 00:13:43,531
I can't imagine what
that must feel like.
296
00:13:43,572 --> 00:13:45,032
There are mornings
you don't think
297
00:13:45,074 --> 00:13:49,495
you can get out of
bed and face the day.
298
00:13:49,537 --> 00:13:54,708
But... we have
Courtney, so we have to..
299
00:13:54,750 --> 00:13:59,088
I mean, it's good. She gives
us both a reason to go on.
300
00:13:59,129 --> 00:14:01,882
[Music continues]
301
00:14:01,924 --> 00:14:04,593
'The day after he died,
I hadn't read the paper'
302
00:14:04,635 --> 00:14:06,136
and no one phoned me yet.
303
00:14:06,178 --> 00:14:09,932
So I phoned him to ask for
help in trimming the hedges.
304
00:14:09,974 --> 00:14:12,184
You stayed close,
even after your divorce?
305
00:14:12,226 --> 00:14:13,269
Closer, actually.
306
00:14:13,310 --> 00:14:15,062
We'd spent years
watching Jenny die.
307
00:14:15,104 --> 00:14:17,648
That's not an experience
anyone else can ever understand.
308
00:14:17,690 --> 00:14:20,234
- Jenny?
- Our daughter. Leukemia.
309
00:14:20,276 --> 00:14:23,571
She was five when she got
sick and nine when she died.
310
00:14:23,612 --> 00:14:26,073
After she died, I went
to bed for five months
311
00:14:26,115 --> 00:14:28,701
and Mark went drinking.
You gotta cope, right?
312
00:14:28,742 --> 00:14:30,077
- Right.
- Anyway..
313
00:14:30,119 --> 00:14:32,872
Every time I looked at
Mark I could only see Jenny.
314
00:14:32,913 --> 00:14:37,042
And I'm sure it was the
same for him. So we split.
315
00:14:37,084 --> 00:14:38,669
When did you two..
316
00:14:38,711 --> 00:14:40,379
After the divorce,
Mark got involved
317
00:14:40,421 --> 00:14:42,715
with a support group
for grieving parents.
318
00:14:42,756 --> 00:14:44,300
Pulled himself together.
319
00:14:44,341 --> 00:14:46,802
He called me to
see how I was doing
320
00:14:46,844 --> 00:14:48,220
and we started talking again.
321
00:14:48,262 --> 00:14:51,265
We heard he had some trouble.
Dui, scuffle at the county fair.
322
00:14:51,307 --> 00:14:54,351
All that was the year after
Jenny died, but he'd changed.
323
00:14:54,393 --> 00:14:56,145
This group had
really helped him.
324
00:14:56,186 --> 00:14:59,189
That's why I was surprised
to hear he got into a fight.
325
00:14:59,231 --> 00:15:02,067
- Where does this group meet?
- Over at St. Stevens.
326
00:15:02,109 --> 00:15:04,528
Jesse Abrams, he's the leader.
327
00:15:04,570 --> 00:15:08,407
I was sick when I heard
what happened to Mark.
328
00:15:08,449 --> 00:15:09,909
You knew him pretty well?
329
00:15:09,950 --> 00:15:12,453
We spoke at length
probably four times a week
330
00:15:12,494 --> 00:15:14,079
for the past year and a half.
331
00:15:14,121 --> 00:15:16,165
I got to know Mark
inside and out.
332
00:15:16,206 --> 00:15:18,334
His ex says you
helped turn him around.
333
00:15:18,375 --> 00:15:19,835
She gives me too much credit.
334
00:15:19,877 --> 00:15:21,587
Mark turned himself around.
335
00:15:21,629 --> 00:15:24,590
Threw himself into this
work, heart and soul.
336
00:15:24,632 --> 00:15:26,216
His way of mourning Jenny.
337
00:15:26,258 --> 00:15:29,219
- Threw himself into it?
- He counseled other parents.
338
00:15:29,261 --> 00:15:31,931
Did outreach work for
us at local hospitals.
339
00:15:31,972 --> 00:15:35,059
- He was good at it?
- He'd been through it himself.
340
00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:37,895
He could talk to a parent
who'd just been told
341
00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:39,355
his or her child had died.
342
00:15:39,396 --> 00:15:41,815
- That's not easy.
- What would he tell them?
343
00:15:41,857 --> 00:15:43,776
He'd stay with
them, comfort them.
344
00:15:43,817 --> 00:15:46,028
Contact them a few
days or weeks later.
345
00:15:46,070 --> 00:15:47,529
Tell them about the group.
346
00:15:47,571 --> 00:15:50,950
Ask them if they'd like
to come to a meeting.
347
00:15:50,991 --> 00:15:52,618
You keep records
of those meetings?
348
00:15:52,660 --> 00:15:54,578
Regular members and guests.
349
00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:55,955
I can fax it to you.
350
00:15:55,996 --> 00:15:57,581
What about the
people he counseled?
351
00:15:57,623 --> 00:16:01,418
That list I can
give you right now.
352
00:16:02,628 --> 00:16:05,339
[Intense music]
353
00:16:08,968 --> 00:16:11,011
I'll be damned.
354
00:16:11,053 --> 00:16:12,346
Greg Paulson?
355
00:16:12,388 --> 00:16:14,640
Riggs counseled
him after his son died.
356
00:16:14,682 --> 00:16:16,600
So Paulson lied
about knowing riggs.
357
00:16:16,642 --> 00:16:18,102
He's been lying from the get-go.
358
00:16:18,143 --> 00:16:19,579
They certainly
weren't total strangers.
359
00:16:19,603 --> 00:16:22,690
After they met at the hospital
riggs invited him to the group.
360
00:16:22,731 --> 00:16:26,026
June of last year, Paulson went
to two meetings at St. Stevens.
361
00:16:26,068 --> 00:16:28,112
I pulled a police
report on the accident.
362
00:16:28,153 --> 00:16:31,365
Paulson and his son were playing
hide-and-seek on the front lawn.
363
00:16:31,407 --> 00:16:32,574
He lost sight of his son
364
00:16:32,616 --> 00:16:35,661
who ran out into the
street and got hit by a car.
365
00:16:35,703 --> 00:16:38,872
Sad story. Think they might
try to use it with the jury?
366
00:16:38,914 --> 00:16:41,208
How is that relevant
to a self-defense claim?
367
00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:42,334
State of mind.
368
00:16:42,376 --> 00:16:46,005
I hope the judge doesn't
allow it. However, if he did..
369
00:16:46,046 --> 00:16:49,425
They might pity him and forgive
him for his inconsistent story.
370
00:16:49,466 --> 00:16:50,968
Inconsistencies?
371
00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:54,221
At this point, going in front
of a jury could be dodgy.
372
00:16:54,263 --> 00:16:56,724
Maybe we could use
the lie to leverage Paulson
373
00:16:56,765 --> 00:16:57,975
to take a manslaughter plea.
374
00:16:58,017 --> 00:16:59,893
We haven't even
scratched the surface here.
375
00:16:59,935 --> 00:17:01,228
Why would Paulson kill someone
376
00:17:01,270 --> 00:17:03,272
trying to help him
mourn his son's death?
377
00:17:03,313 --> 00:17:05,733
If we find out what they
fought about that night
378
00:17:05,774 --> 00:17:08,193
we'd have a motive to
support the murder charge.
379
00:17:08,235 --> 00:17:11,113
If we could, we
might or we might not.
380
00:17:11,155 --> 00:17:13,115
Offer Paulson
voluntary manslaughter
381
00:17:13,157 --> 00:17:16,160
and let's put this to bed.
382
00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:21,582
Your client lied to us,
Paul. He knew Mark riggs.
383
00:17:21,623 --> 00:17:23,083
You keep accusing him of that.
384
00:17:23,125 --> 00:17:26,253
He didn't lie, just didn't
mention it. How is it relevant?
385
00:17:26,295 --> 00:17:27,713
It's still a road rage incident
386
00:17:27,755 --> 00:17:29,423
whether they knew
each other or not.
387
00:17:29,465 --> 00:17:31,884
I thought we were
gonna talk about a plea.
388
00:17:31,925 --> 00:17:33,761
Voluntary
manslaughter, ten years.
389
00:17:33,802 --> 00:17:35,971
Four suspended for
mitigating circumstances.
390
00:17:36,013 --> 00:17:40,017
Voluntary man, ten
years, two suspended.
391
00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:41,935
Eight years, Greg.
392
00:17:41,977 --> 00:17:45,647
Make parole,
you'll be out in four.
393
00:17:47,107 --> 00:17:49,443
Done.
394
00:17:49,485 --> 00:17:51,278
Tell me what
happened that night.
395
00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,031
We knew each other from
the grief group. That's true.
396
00:17:54,073 --> 00:17:55,824
But I hadn't seen
Mark in months.
397
00:17:55,866 --> 00:17:58,452
When he got out of the
car, he looked familiar
398
00:17:58,494 --> 00:18:01,330
but I barely remembered
him. It was dark and..
399
00:18:01,371 --> 00:18:04,374
It wasn't until afterwards
that I realized that it was him.
400
00:18:04,416 --> 00:18:07,586
- What were you fighting about?
- Well, it happened like I said.
401
00:18:07,628 --> 00:18:09,838
He cut me off. I don't know why.
402
00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,965
You're still claiming this
was a traffic altercation?
403
00:18:12,007 --> 00:18:14,259
Maybe he was irate
because I honked my horn.
404
00:18:14,301 --> 00:18:18,097
He came at me with a crowbar
and smashed my window.
405
00:18:18,138 --> 00:18:20,516
I had to defend myself
and my daughter.
406
00:18:20,557 --> 00:18:22,267
You told us you hit him once.
407
00:18:22,309 --> 00:18:23,703
The coroner's
report is irrefutable.
408
00:18:23,727 --> 00:18:25,604
I don't remember hitting
him the second time.
409
00:18:25,646 --> 00:18:28,524
I was in a state, I was
fighting for our lives.
410
00:18:28,565 --> 00:18:30,484
- You were enraged.
- I was scared to death.
411
00:18:30,526 --> 00:18:33,529
Even if that were true,
your first blow broke his arm.
412
00:18:33,570 --> 00:18:36,698
You were in no danger when
you struck the lethal blow.
413
00:18:36,740 --> 00:18:38,909
I didn't know that.
414
00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:40,953
I don't believe
you. You're a liar.
415
00:18:40,994 --> 00:18:42,287
Annabeth, that's uncalled for.
416
00:18:42,329 --> 00:18:45,165
You've lied to us from the
beginning and you're lying now.
417
00:18:45,207 --> 00:18:47,126
That's the story
that I've told all along
418
00:18:47,167 --> 00:18:50,087
and that's the only
story that I'm going to tell.
419
00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:51,213
Then we have a problem
420
00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:53,757
because I'm not gonna
let you lie to the judge.
421
00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:55,759
Annabeth, please,
we can make this deal.
422
00:18:55,801 --> 00:18:57,052
Last chance, Mr. Paulson.
423
00:18:57,094 --> 00:18:59,805
- I already told you.
- 'If that's a challenge..'
424
00:18:59,847 --> 00:19:01,431
I'll take it.
425
00:19:01,473 --> 00:19:04,726
And you'll be sorry I did.
426
00:19:07,563 --> 00:19:08,706
I asked you to settle the case.
427
00:19:08,730 --> 00:19:10,107
I thought his
proffer was a line.
428
00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:11,543
I didn't think judge
lathrop would accept it.
429
00:19:11,567 --> 00:19:13,110
He would've accepted
it. I accepted it.
430
00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:14,945
Paulson accepted
it. Everyone but you.
431
00:19:14,987 --> 00:19:17,072
I'm not comfortable
settling with no idea
432
00:19:17,114 --> 00:19:18,157
of what really happened.
433
00:19:18,198 --> 00:19:19,449
That isn't your job.
434
00:19:19,491 --> 00:19:22,411
Your job is to accurately
assess the strength of the case.
435
00:19:22,452 --> 00:19:24,621
Ambiguous evidence,
inconclusive witnesses
436
00:19:24,663 --> 00:19:26,999
sympathetic defendant,
semi-sympathetic victim.
437
00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,668
This wasn't road rage. They
were fighting about something else.
438
00:19:29,710 --> 00:19:31,712
- You're not sure.
- I'm trying to find out.
439
00:19:31,753 --> 00:19:34,506
We got permission from riggs'
ex-wife to search his apartment.
440
00:19:34,548 --> 00:19:37,050
Ed and ray can go
over there right now.
441
00:19:37,092 --> 00:19:38,886
You have two days
to show me something.
442
00:19:38,927 --> 00:19:42,431
Otherwise, we go back to
boscoe, and we make the deal.
443
00:19:42,472 --> 00:19:45,350
- Two days.
- Okay.
444
00:19:46,059 --> 00:19:48,770
[Dramatic music]
445
00:19:50,981 --> 00:19:55,527
The riggs family, they
look like they were happy.
446
00:19:55,569 --> 00:19:57,070
Family pictures
always look happy.
447
00:19:57,112 --> 00:20:01,825
Right, who hangs the ones
where everyone looks miserable?
448
00:20:01,867 --> 00:20:03,911
His daughter dies,
his whole life changes.
449
00:20:03,952 --> 00:20:05,996
The death of a child
rocks your world.
450
00:20:06,038 --> 00:20:08,457
Drinking, assault,
arrest, losing his wife.
451
00:20:08,498 --> 00:20:09,875
It's like a punishment.
452
00:20:09,917 --> 00:20:13,754
What did he do other than
have a kid who got sick? Nothing.
453
00:20:13,795 --> 00:20:17,549
He made something
out of it in the end.
454
00:20:17,591 --> 00:20:20,886
The support group.
455
00:20:20,928 --> 00:20:24,473
Look at these.
456
00:20:24,514 --> 00:20:26,183
Recognize the names?
457
00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:28,352
Recognize this one. Paulson.
458
00:20:28,393 --> 00:20:32,147
Must be the people he counseled.
459
00:20:32,189 --> 00:20:34,816
This is all about
the Paulson's son.
460
00:20:34,858 --> 00:20:38,195
Name, birthday,
anniversary of death
461
00:20:38,237 --> 00:20:40,989
favorite food, toys.
462
00:20:41,031 --> 00:20:45,035
Pictures.
463
00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:46,078
(Ed) Sarah Paulson.
464
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,288
Maybe riggs counseled her, too.
465
00:20:48,330 --> 00:20:51,124
Maybe.
466
00:20:51,166 --> 00:20:52,334
He must have.
467
00:20:52,376 --> 00:20:54,253
'They went to calvary
cemetery together'
468
00:20:54,294 --> 00:20:55,504
where Andrew Paulson's buried.
469
00:20:55,545 --> 00:20:58,924
Almost every Tuesday
for the past year.
470
00:21:00,634 --> 00:21:01,843
Almost every week. Regulars.
471
00:21:01,885 --> 00:21:03,929
What was their routine?
What would they do?
472
00:21:03,971 --> 00:21:05,722
Go to the gravesite for a while
473
00:21:05,764 --> 00:21:09,268
sit, hold hands, maybe
walk around, talk.
474
00:21:09,309 --> 00:21:11,478
Sometimes they'd
even pack a picnic lunch
475
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,896
spend the afternoon.
476
00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:14,749
What was your impression
of their relationship?
477
00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:17,818
Really good. Better than
most couples grieving a child.
478
00:21:17,859 --> 00:21:19,278
You thought they were a couple?
479
00:21:19,319 --> 00:21:21,655
The parents? Yeah. Definitely.
480
00:21:21,697 --> 00:21:23,782
- They told you that?
- You can tell.
481
00:21:23,824 --> 00:21:26,326
They'd touch, console each other
482
00:21:26,368 --> 00:21:27,703
and they always came together.
483
00:21:27,744 --> 00:21:29,997
- Together?
- A lot of parents come alone.
484
00:21:30,038 --> 00:21:31,039
Grieve separately.
485
00:21:31,081 --> 00:21:33,041
It's too painful for
them to be together.
486
00:21:33,083 --> 00:21:35,085
They blame each
other or whatever.
487
00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:37,546
These two were definitely
helping the other one
488
00:21:37,587 --> 00:21:39,965
get through this.
489
00:21:41,174 --> 00:21:42,801
Weekly visits to a
cemetery hardly prove
490
00:21:42,843 --> 00:21:45,178
Mark riggs and Sarah
Paulson were having an affair.
491
00:21:45,220 --> 00:21:48,181
They talked on the phone
several times a day for months.
492
00:21:48,223 --> 00:21:49,683
And according to
Mark riggs' calendar
493
00:21:49,725 --> 00:21:51,476
they also met in
restaurants, coffee shops
494
00:21:51,518 --> 00:21:52,894
'even his apartment
occasionally.'
495
00:21:52,936 --> 00:21:54,021
he was counseling her.
496
00:21:54,062 --> 00:21:55,981
Oh, is that what it's
called nowadays?
497
00:21:56,023 --> 00:21:58,358
Greg Paulson was so
distraught over his son's death
498
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,193
he temporarily checked
out of the marriage
499
00:22:00,235 --> 00:22:02,195
and Sarah needed
someone to confide in.
500
00:22:02,237 --> 00:22:04,406
- Riggs.
- They fell in love.
501
00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:05,782
I'm still not making the leap.
502
00:22:05,824 --> 00:22:08,035
Look at the timeline
of the phone calls.
503
00:22:08,076 --> 00:22:09,512
'Riggs meets
Paulson at the hospital'
504
00:22:09,536 --> 00:22:12,706
'Andrew dies, a few weeks
later, riggs brings Paulson'
505
00:22:12,748 --> 00:22:15,042
'to two grief group
meetings at St. Stevens.'
506
00:22:15,083 --> 00:22:16,585
that's where their
relationship ends.
507
00:22:16,626 --> 00:22:18,587
No more meetings,
no more phone calls
508
00:22:18,628 --> 00:22:20,130
between riggs' and
Paulson's office.
509
00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:22,257
But for the first time
a few weeks later
510
00:22:22,299 --> 00:22:25,302
riggs calls up Paulson's home
and talks for almost an hour.
511
00:22:25,344 --> 00:22:27,888
And you think he talked
to Sarah Paulson, why?
512
00:22:27,929 --> 00:22:29,890
Riggs never calls up
Paulson's home number again
513
00:22:29,931 --> 00:22:32,476
only Sarah's cell phone,
which he calls all the time.
514
00:22:32,517 --> 00:22:34,978
Until this day, shortly
before the murder
515
00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:37,439
'when the connection
between Sarah and riggs ends.'
516
00:22:37,481 --> 00:22:40,233
one of them broke it
off. Or Paulson found out.
517
00:22:40,275 --> 00:22:41,443
- An affair?
- What else?
518
00:22:41,485 --> 00:22:43,028
They obviously
were trying to keep
519
00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:44,589
their relationship
secret from her husband.
520
00:22:44,613 --> 00:22:47,366
And that's what riggs and
Paulson fought about that night?
521
00:22:47,407 --> 00:22:51,745
I think so. I wanna ask
Sarah about it under oath.
522
00:22:51,787 --> 00:22:53,914
Alright. Depose her.
523
00:22:54,956 --> 00:22:58,293
I lied because I didn't want to
cause Greg any more trouble.
524
00:22:58,335 --> 00:23:00,170
You were having
an affair with the man
525
00:23:00,212 --> 00:23:02,839
your husband killed, and
you knew how that would look.
526
00:23:02,881 --> 00:23:04,633
Could you not
call it that, please?
527
00:23:04,674 --> 00:23:06,676
- 'What would you call it?'
- A friendship.
528
00:23:06,718 --> 00:23:09,971
We have phone records,
photos of the two of you together
529
00:23:10,013 --> 00:23:12,766
notes of the times you met at
the cemetery, his apartment.
530
00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:15,769
I know that it looks like
an affair, but it wasn't.
531
00:23:15,811 --> 00:23:18,897
Well, whatever it
was, how did it start?
532
00:23:18,939 --> 00:23:21,149
Mark called the
house, looking for Greg.
533
00:23:21,191 --> 00:23:24,528
I told him Greg didn't want
to continue going to group.
534
00:23:24,569 --> 00:23:27,030
He said he understood that.
535
00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:30,450
And then he asked
how I was doing.
536
00:23:30,492 --> 00:23:33,662
And that just opened
the floodgates.
537
00:23:33,703 --> 00:23:34,746
We talked about Andrew.
538
00:23:34,788 --> 00:23:36,748
Greg and I weren't
talking about Andrew
539
00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:38,333
or anything else
for that matter.
540
00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:39,626
And Mark riggs understood?
541
00:23:39,668 --> 00:23:42,254
He had lost a daughter
and a marriage.
542
00:23:42,295 --> 00:23:45,632
He knew exactly what
I was going through.
543
00:23:47,134 --> 00:23:48,468
That was the beginning.
544
00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:52,013
Did your husband know about
this relationship with Mark?
545
00:23:52,055 --> 00:23:55,308
He knew we were spending
a lot of time together.
546
00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:58,395
He knew Mark and I were close.
547
00:23:58,437 --> 00:24:00,772
He asked me to
break it off with him.
548
00:24:00,814 --> 00:24:03,400
Is that why you stopped
seeing each other?
549
00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:08,155
My relationship with
Mark was so intense.
550
00:24:08,196 --> 00:24:12,492
At a certain point, I felt
I was betraying Greg.
551
00:24:12,534 --> 00:24:16,371
So I told Mark I wanted to
try and get my marriage back.
552
00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:17,622
What did he say?
553
00:24:17,664 --> 00:24:19,624
He said he was in love with me.
554
00:24:19,666 --> 00:24:24,588
But for Courtney's
sake and for mine..
555
00:24:24,629 --> 00:24:27,757
He hoped that Greg and I
could work things through.
556
00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,969
I really thought
he was okay with it.
557
00:24:31,011 --> 00:24:33,054
Do you believe
Mark riggs confronted
558
00:24:33,096 --> 00:24:34,347
your husband that night?
559
00:24:34,389 --> 00:24:37,976
I think when I rejected
him, Mark sought Greg out
560
00:24:38,018 --> 00:24:40,520
and attacked him and
put our daughter in danger
561
00:24:40,562 --> 00:24:41,688
and I feel responsible.
562
00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:44,232
If I hadn't spent so
much time with Mark
563
00:24:44,274 --> 00:24:47,736
Mark never touched
that crowbar, Sarah.
564
00:24:47,777 --> 00:24:50,238
Your husband is lying to you.
565
00:24:53,241 --> 00:24:55,911
We know what your client
and Mark riggs were really
566
00:24:55,952 --> 00:24:58,038
fighting about that
night. Sarah Paulson.
567
00:24:58,079 --> 00:25:01,374
Ah, yes, Mark riggs, Sarah
Paulson's spurned suitor.
568
00:25:01,416 --> 00:25:02,250
Spurned suitor?
569
00:25:02,292 --> 00:25:04,294
Did you pick up a
few new phrases
570
00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:05,730
from one of professor
Paulson's classes?
571
00:25:05,754 --> 00:25:08,381
Mark riggs was in love
with Sarah but she wasn't.
572
00:25:08,423 --> 00:25:12,427
I beg to differ, I talked to
her, it's obvious how she felt.
573
00:25:12,469 --> 00:25:13,762
And she told you what?
574
00:25:13,803 --> 00:25:15,931
- They were just friends.
- Exactly.
575
00:25:15,972 --> 00:25:18,308
Riggs fell in love with
her. It was unrequited.
576
00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:19,976
He attacked my client in a rage.
577
00:25:20,018 --> 00:25:22,020
My client knew nothing
of riggs' obsession
578
00:25:22,062 --> 00:25:23,271
until riggs attacked him.
579
00:25:23,313 --> 00:25:25,732
He knew they were having
some kind of relationship.
580
00:25:25,774 --> 00:25:27,317
He asked Sarah
not to continue it.
581
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,445
That would convince a jury
he was aware of their affair.
582
00:25:30,487 --> 00:25:31,446
You don't believe that.
583
00:25:31,488 --> 00:25:33,156
It doesn't matter
what I believe.
584
00:25:33,198 --> 00:25:34,658
It matters what Greg
Paulson believed
585
00:25:34,699 --> 00:25:36,576
and if he believed
about his wife's affair
586
00:25:36,618 --> 00:25:39,120
with riggs, it explains
why he killed him that night.
587
00:25:39,162 --> 00:25:41,414
What really matters is
what the jury believes.
588
00:25:41,456 --> 00:25:44,918
We think they'll
believe us, not you.
589
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,176
Mr. Paulson told the
police he was attacked
590
00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:55,971
by a stranger with a crowbar.
591
00:25:56,012 --> 00:25:57,264
This is a lie.
592
00:25:57,305 --> 00:26:00,976
In fact, he knew the victim
Mark riggs quite intimately.
593
00:26:01,017 --> 00:26:03,979
Mr. Riggs had counseled
him over the death of his son
594
00:26:04,020 --> 00:26:06,690
and then Mr. Riggs
counseled Sarah Paulson.
595
00:26:06,731 --> 00:26:09,818
The evidence will show
that Greg Paulson believed
596
00:26:09,859 --> 00:26:12,737
Mark riggs was having
an affair with his wife.
597
00:26:12,779 --> 00:26:16,616
Mark riggs did not attack
Greg Paulson with that crowbar.
598
00:26:16,658 --> 00:26:18,034
It was the other way around.
599
00:26:18,076 --> 00:26:24,082
What Greg Paulson did to riggs
that night was not self-defense.
600
00:26:24,124 --> 00:26:26,585
It was murder.
601
00:26:26,626 --> 00:26:30,171
This case is about one
thing whether Greg Paulson
602
00:26:30,213 --> 00:26:32,549
was legally justified
in defending himself
603
00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:36,553
and his daughter
from Mr. Riggs' attack.
604
00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:39,556
Mr. Paulson wasn't jealous of
a love affair between Mark riggs
605
00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:42,809
and Sarah Paulson
because there wasn't one.
606
00:26:42,851 --> 00:26:44,811
Mark riggs loved Sarah Paulson
607
00:26:44,853 --> 00:26:47,939
but she did not love
him back, not in that way.
608
00:26:47,981 --> 00:26:49,524
This isn't about a
jealous husband.
609
00:26:49,566 --> 00:26:51,860
It was Mark riggs
who was jealous
610
00:26:51,901 --> 00:26:54,821
jealous of the paulsons'
marriage, resentful
611
00:26:54,863 --> 00:26:57,365
that a woman he had
cared about and had helped
612
00:26:57,407 --> 00:27:00,368
and had fallen in love
with was not gonna leave
613
00:27:00,410 --> 00:27:01,911
her husband for him.
614
00:27:01,953 --> 00:27:04,539
You will hear from Sarah Paulson
615
00:27:04,581 --> 00:27:06,416
who'll tell you about
the exact nature
616
00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:08,668
of her relationship
with Mark riggs.
617
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:10,879
You'll hear from
an expert witness
618
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,674
who will shed light on
Greg Paulson's state of mind
619
00:27:14,716 --> 00:27:17,802
the night Mark
riggs attacked him.
620
00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:20,722
And you'll hear
from the one person
621
00:27:20,764 --> 00:27:23,600
who knows exactly
what happened that night.
622
00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:25,477
Greg Paulson
will tell you himself
623
00:27:25,518 --> 00:27:29,481
the fear he felt when
Mark riggs took that crowbar
624
00:27:29,522 --> 00:27:30,815
and smashed that window.
625
00:27:30,857 --> 00:27:33,360
Spraying glass on his
three-year-old daughter.
626
00:27:33,401 --> 00:27:36,237
The question in this case
is not why Greg Paulson
627
00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:38,031
responded as he did that night.
628
00:27:38,073 --> 00:27:42,911
It is how we would judge
a father who did not?
629
00:27:48,083 --> 00:27:50,877
(Bosco) 'What did your husband
tell you when he called you'
630
00:27:50,919 --> 00:27:53,922
- 'the night of the incident?'
- He said Mark had attacked him.
631
00:27:53,963 --> 00:27:55,965
- Did he say why?
- He wanted me..
632
00:27:56,007 --> 00:27:58,051
To leave my husband.
That's what Greg said.
633
00:27:58,093 --> 00:28:00,762
When did you end your
friendship with Mr. Riggs?
634
00:28:00,804 --> 00:28:02,806
A few days before
he attacked Greg.
635
00:28:02,847 --> 00:28:04,391
So you broke off
your relationship
636
00:28:04,432 --> 00:28:06,518
with Mr. Riggs,
and a few days later
637
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:07,852
he attacked your husband?
638
00:28:07,894 --> 00:28:09,562
Objection.
639
00:28:09,604 --> 00:28:11,815
Sustained.
640
00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:19,406
After your son died, Mark
riggs counseled your husband.
641
00:28:19,447 --> 00:28:20,240
Briefly.
642
00:28:20,281 --> 00:28:22,075
He went to a few meetings
643
00:28:22,117 --> 00:28:24,994
but, um, he wasn't
interested in Mark's help.
644
00:28:25,036 --> 00:28:26,329
But you were.
645
00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:28,957
Mark helped me a lot.
646
00:28:28,998 --> 00:28:32,419
Did the two of you fall in love?
647
00:28:32,460 --> 00:28:33,211
Yes.
648
00:28:33,253 --> 00:28:35,296
Did you have an affair?
649
00:28:35,338 --> 00:28:36,756
It wasn't an affair.
650
00:28:36,798 --> 00:28:38,550
We became very close friends.
651
00:28:38,591 --> 00:28:39,801
Very close friends.
652
00:28:39,843 --> 00:28:43,680
Which meant you spent
a lot of time together?
653
00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:44,848
Um, I don't know.
654
00:28:44,889 --> 00:28:47,767
'How many times a week
did you see Mr. Riggs?'
655
00:28:47,809 --> 00:28:48,810
three or four.
656
00:28:48,852 --> 00:28:51,563
How often did you speak
to him on the phone?
657
00:28:51,604 --> 00:28:53,314
- Every day.
- Every day?
658
00:28:53,356 --> 00:28:55,275
Yes.
659
00:28:55,316 --> 00:28:59,863
Did you ever visit your son's
gravesite with Mr. Riggs?
660
00:28:59,904 --> 00:29:00,739
Yes.
661
00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:01,906
Every week, in fact.
662
00:29:01,948 --> 00:29:06,244
You met him in coffee
shops, bars, at his apartment
663
00:29:06,286 --> 00:29:07,787
and all behind your
husband's back.
664
00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:09,164
(Sarah) 'I needed a friend.'
665
00:29:09,205 --> 00:29:13,126
Mark helped me grieve,
but that's all it was.
666
00:29:13,168 --> 00:29:14,502
It wasn't an affair.
667
00:29:14,544 --> 00:29:17,964
Do you think it may have
been construed as an affair?
668
00:29:18,006 --> 00:29:20,008
That's what you
seem to have done.
669
00:29:20,049 --> 00:29:21,134
What about your husband?
670
00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:23,887
'Wouldn't it have looked
like an affair to him?'
671
00:29:23,928 --> 00:29:24,679
no.
672
00:29:24,721 --> 00:29:28,308
Well, then, why
keep it a secret?
673
00:29:28,349 --> 00:29:30,810
And when your husband
did find out you'd been
674
00:29:30,852 --> 00:29:32,812
spending so much
time with Mr. Riggs?
675
00:29:32,854 --> 00:29:36,691
When he found out, he
said he'd rather I didn't.
676
00:29:36,733 --> 00:29:40,570
He specifically asked you
not to see Mark riggs anymore?
677
00:29:40,612 --> 00:29:41,488
Yes.
678
00:29:41,529 --> 00:29:43,782
- And did you do as he asked?
- Yes.
679
00:29:43,823 --> 00:29:45,617
And when you ended
the relationship with
680
00:29:45,658 --> 00:29:47,368
Mark riggs, what
was his reaction?
681
00:29:47,410 --> 00:29:49,162
He was disappointed.
682
00:29:49,204 --> 00:29:51,289
He said he was in love with me.
683
00:29:51,331 --> 00:29:53,917
Sarah, did he seem angry?
684
00:29:53,958 --> 00:29:57,003
- No.
- What did he say?
685
00:30:00,548 --> 00:30:04,552
He said he hoped I
could save my marriage.
686
00:30:05,345 --> 00:30:07,806
No further questions.
687
00:30:12,393 --> 00:30:14,395
Dr. Eaton, what did
you hope to glean
688
00:30:14,437 --> 00:30:17,106
from your interview
with professor Paulson?
689
00:30:17,148 --> 00:30:19,192
An understanding of
his cognitive abilities
690
00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:21,653
and of his personal
history as they might relate
691
00:30:21,694 --> 00:30:24,197
to the night of his
conflict with Mr. Riggs.
692
00:30:24,239 --> 00:30:25,698
And what did you conclude?
693
00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:26,866
That there was an aspect
694
00:30:26,908 --> 00:30:29,744
of his personal history that
very well may have induced
695
00:30:29,786 --> 00:30:31,788
in him a reasonable
fear for his life
696
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:33,373
'and for the life of his child.'
697
00:30:33,414 --> 00:30:36,084
and what aspect of his
past are you referring to?
698
00:30:36,125 --> 00:30:39,504
'The death of his son a
little more than a year ago.'
699
00:30:39,546 --> 00:30:40,755
objection. Relevance.
700
00:30:40,797 --> 00:30:42,191
This experience is
absolutely relevant
701
00:30:42,215 --> 00:30:44,384
to Mr. Paulson's
claim of self-defense.
702
00:30:44,425 --> 00:30:46,386
It framed his
perception of the event
703
00:30:46,427 --> 00:30:47,470
and what was happening.
704
00:30:47,512 --> 00:30:48,596
Sidebar, your honor.
705
00:30:48,638 --> 00:30:51,432
I think chambers instead.
706
00:30:52,183 --> 00:30:53,476
What're you pulling, Mr. Bosco?
707
00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:55,979
Marching a dead
child in front of my jury.
708
00:30:56,020 --> 00:30:57,605
That's not my
intention, your honor.
709
00:30:57,647 --> 00:30:58,982
'What is your intention?'
710
00:30:59,023 --> 00:31:00,859
to establish Mr. Paulson's
state of mind.
711
00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:03,069
How does the
child's death do that?
712
00:31:03,111 --> 00:31:04,946
Mr. Paulson witnessed
his son's death.
713
00:31:04,988 --> 00:31:07,240
When Mr. Riggs drove
that crowbar into the window
714
00:31:07,282 --> 00:31:09,617
spraying glass on Mr. Paulson's
three-year-old daughter
715
00:31:09,659 --> 00:31:11,703
his experience shaped
his perception of that act
716
00:31:11,744 --> 00:31:13,371
as a threat to
his daughter's life.
717
00:31:13,413 --> 00:31:15,498
The details of Andrew
Paulson's death are irrelevant.
718
00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:17,792
Allowing Mr. Bosco to
garnish his defense with them
719
00:31:17,834 --> 00:31:20,670
would be improper, naked
appeal for jury sympathy.
720
00:31:20,712 --> 00:31:22,005
Brand vs. State of Indiana.
721
00:31:22,046 --> 00:31:23,983
A self-defense case where
the court ruled admissible
722
00:31:24,007 --> 00:31:26,426
testimony about prior
events that formed the basis
723
00:31:26,467 --> 00:31:27,635
of the defendant's fear.
724
00:31:27,677 --> 00:31:29,679
In brand, those events
were things the defendant
725
00:31:29,721 --> 00:31:32,056
knew about the victim's
past, not events completely
726
00:31:32,098 --> 00:31:33,516
unconnected to the victim.
727
00:31:33,558 --> 00:31:35,870
They were admitted to establish
the defendant's perception.
728
00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:38,980
That's all that matters here.
729
00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:42,191
If Mr. Paulson is
still taking the stand
730
00:31:42,233 --> 00:31:43,651
Mr. Bosco, I agree with you
731
00:31:43,693 --> 00:31:45,904
but I will not allow
the jury to hear
732
00:31:45,945 --> 00:31:48,573
theoretical testimony
without hearing about
733
00:31:48,615 --> 00:31:49,991
those experiences directly.
734
00:31:50,033 --> 00:31:53,202
He still intends to
testify, your honor.
735
00:31:53,244 --> 00:31:56,664
Then I will allow the jury to
hear about his son's death
736
00:31:56,706 --> 00:31:59,125
solely as it relates
to his state of mind
737
00:31:59,167 --> 00:32:01,628
at the time of the fight.
738
00:32:06,507 --> 00:32:07,717
Lathrop bought that?
739
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,803
Guess he figures it's better
than being reversed on appeal.
740
00:32:10,845 --> 00:32:12,639
It's clearly a bid
for jury sympathy.
741
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,724
The question is,
how to counter it?
742
00:32:14,766 --> 00:32:17,018
I'm not sure we do.
Maybe we ignore it.
743
00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:20,271
Let the jury see it for
the cynical tactic that it is
744
00:32:20,313 --> 00:32:21,790
and hammer Paulson
with the fingerprints
745
00:32:21,814 --> 00:32:23,983
the witnesses, the
affair, his own admissions
746
00:32:24,025 --> 00:32:25,109
and inconsistencies.
747
00:32:25,151 --> 00:32:27,946
We have to go right
at him. Who knows how
748
00:32:27,987 --> 00:32:30,114
'he'll twist the story
to convince the jury?'
749
00:32:30,156 --> 00:32:31,756
Maureen, he's lied
about everything else.
750
00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:33,534
He's probably going
to lie about that.
751
00:32:33,576 --> 00:32:35,912
I've read the police report.
I'm unsure of relevance.
752
00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:38,206
I'm going to show
it to ed and ray.
753
00:32:38,247 --> 00:32:39,832
Have them go
over to the paulsons
754
00:32:39,874 --> 00:32:42,085
and walk through the
accident, talk to the witnesses.
755
00:32:42,126 --> 00:32:45,546
I'm not letting Paulson
use his son's death like this.
756
00:32:49,092 --> 00:32:51,386
[Dog barking]
757
00:32:51,427 --> 00:32:52,470
You sure?
758
00:32:52,512 --> 00:32:56,182
Never forget it.
That poor little boy.
759
00:32:56,224 --> 00:32:57,517
And Mr. Paulson?
760
00:32:57,558 --> 00:32:58,518
I didn't see him.
761
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:00,687
- He wasn't there?
- Not then.
762
00:33:00,728 --> 00:33:03,064
A few minutes
later, out in the street
763
00:33:03,106 --> 00:33:05,149
we were all there.
764
00:33:05,191 --> 00:33:07,151
Driver of the car was crying.
765
00:33:07,193 --> 00:33:11,364
Everybody was calling 911.
Just waiting on an ambulance.
766
00:33:11,406 --> 00:33:14,033
Alright. Thanks, ma'am.
767
00:33:15,159 --> 00:33:17,328
'If she was standing
there didn't see him'
768
00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:19,038
on the front lawn, where was he?
769
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,708
Next door neighbor also
says she didn't see him
770
00:33:21,749 --> 00:33:24,085
out in the yard.
771
00:33:24,127 --> 00:33:26,921
It's not much, but it
could be somethin'.
772
00:33:26,963 --> 00:33:29,257
Paulson told the patrol
officer on the scene
773
00:33:29,298 --> 00:33:30,675
he was on the front lawn.
774
00:33:30,717 --> 00:33:32,135
Saw Andrew
running into the street.
775
00:33:32,176 --> 00:33:34,679
But neither of the witnesses
saw Paulson on the lawn
776
00:33:34,721 --> 00:33:37,390
and both had a clear
view of the accident.
777
00:33:37,432 --> 00:33:38,516
So he's lying?
778
00:33:38,558 --> 00:33:40,601
- Of course he's lying.
- Then where was he?
779
00:33:40,643 --> 00:33:42,395
Let's assume that
Paulson made a mistake
780
00:33:42,437 --> 00:33:44,480
that day and then
lied to the police.
781
00:33:44,522 --> 00:33:45,857
'If he did, it's perceivable '
782
00:33:45,898 --> 00:33:47,859
he couldn't tell
his wife the truth.
783
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:51,112
So how do we prove it unless
he told someone the truth?
784
00:33:51,154 --> 00:33:53,614
Maybe he told
riggs at the hospital
785
00:33:53,656 --> 00:33:55,241
immediately after
Andrew's death.
786
00:33:55,283 --> 00:33:58,870
Would riggs have told
anyone? His ex-wife, maybe?
787
00:33:58,911 --> 00:34:01,748
Jesse Abrams, the grief
counselor at St. Stevens.
788
00:34:01,789 --> 00:34:04,959
But he didn't remember Paulson.
He didn't recognize his picture.
789
00:34:05,001 --> 00:34:06,753
He wouldn't have
to remember Paulson
790
00:34:06,794 --> 00:34:10,715
he just has to
remember the story.
791
00:34:10,757 --> 00:34:12,008
I can't reveal names.
792
00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:14,677
But, tell me what you know.
I'll see what I remember.
793
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,764
Fair enough. About a year ago,
a man's playing hide-and-seek
794
00:34:17,805 --> 00:34:19,390
on his front lawn with his son.
795
00:34:19,432 --> 00:34:22,393
Boy runs into the street,
father says he watched him
796
00:34:22,435 --> 00:34:23,770
get hit by the car.
797
00:34:23,811 --> 00:34:26,022
Happened out in
shadyside, right?
798
00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:27,190
Yeah.
799
00:34:27,231 --> 00:34:29,317
I remember Mark
telling me that story.
800
00:34:29,358 --> 00:34:30,651
Do you remember the details?
801
00:34:30,693 --> 00:34:33,237
Of the hide-and-seek story? No.
802
00:34:33,279 --> 00:34:34,447
'Cause that wasn't the story.
803
00:34:34,489 --> 00:34:36,574
What do you mean,
"that wasn't the story"?
804
00:34:36,616 --> 00:34:38,451
That was the lie the
father told people.
805
00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:41,913
He told Mark the truth, that's
why he talked to me about it.
806
00:34:41,954 --> 00:34:46,250
People lie to each other about
a lot things when a child dies.
807
00:34:55,593 --> 00:34:57,637
'You grabbed the
crowbar from Mark riggs.'
808
00:34:57,678 --> 00:34:58,596
I struck him.
809
00:34:58,638 --> 00:34:59,889
- 'How many times?'
- Twice.
810
00:34:59,931 --> 00:35:02,391
I hit him the first
time, he kept coming.
811
00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:05,061
I hit him again, he went down.
812
00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:08,064
Why did Mark riggs
attack you that night?
813
00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:10,358
He said he was in
love with my wife.
814
00:35:10,399 --> 00:35:13,528
(Bosco) 'So, he blocked
the road and confronted you.'
815
00:35:13,569 --> 00:35:14,445
yes.
816
00:35:14,487 --> 00:35:15,988
What did you think
was happening?
817
00:35:16,030 --> 00:35:18,116
I was scared. I
knew he was angry.
818
00:35:18,157 --> 00:35:20,326
I-I thought he was stalking me.
819
00:35:20,368 --> 00:35:21,536
'You felt threatened.'
820
00:35:21,577 --> 00:35:22,995
very. We argued.
821
00:35:23,037 --> 00:35:25,456
He smashed the window of my car.
822
00:35:25,498 --> 00:35:26,833
My daughter was inches away.
823
00:35:26,874 --> 00:35:29,544
- 'How did you react to that?'
- 'She was terrified.'
824
00:35:29,585 --> 00:35:31,420
'i needed to protect her.'
825
00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:36,259
I kept having an image of Andrew
826
00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:38,594
running into the street.
827
00:35:38,636 --> 00:35:41,389
Right before he was..
828
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:43,266
Struck by a car.
829
00:35:43,307 --> 00:35:47,228
And how is Andrew relevant
to what we're discussing today?
830
00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:49,355
He was killed by a car last year
831
00:35:49,397 --> 00:35:50,982
when he was three years old.
832
00:35:51,023 --> 00:35:52,150
How did that happen?
833
00:35:52,191 --> 00:35:56,779
We were playing
hide-and-seek in the front yard.
834
00:35:56,821 --> 00:35:59,532
His turn to hide.
835
00:35:59,574 --> 00:36:02,451
I closed my eyes
not ten seconds.
836
00:36:02,493 --> 00:36:08,499
And then when I opened them,
he was running into the street.
837
00:36:08,541 --> 00:36:12,211
And a car was
coming right at him.
838
00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:16,716
I saw it hit him.
839
00:36:16,757 --> 00:36:18,259
I watched my son die.
840
00:36:18,301 --> 00:36:20,469
(Bosco) 'Why did you
think of this tragedy'
841
00:36:20,511 --> 00:36:23,431
'when Mark riggs smashed
the window of your car?'
842
00:36:23,472 --> 00:36:25,016
simple.
843
00:36:25,057 --> 00:36:28,561
I thought I was about
to lose another child.
844
00:36:36,485 --> 00:36:41,574
Mr. Paulson, you saw the
car hit your son. Is that right?
845
00:36:41,616 --> 00:36:42,450
Yes.
846
00:36:42,491 --> 00:36:44,327
Are you familiar
with the police report?
847
00:36:44,368 --> 00:36:48,497
I know there is
one. I haven't seen it.
848
00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:50,082
"We were playing hide-and-seek."
849
00:36:50,124 --> 00:36:52,293
"I had my eyes
closed when I heard
850
00:36:52,335 --> 00:36:54,462
"the screech of
the car's brakes.
851
00:36:54,503 --> 00:36:58,257
"I opened my eyes and
saw the car hit Andrew."
852
00:36:58,299 --> 00:37:00,718
He wrote it down.
Guess I said it.
853
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,595
Where were you
playing hide-and-seek?
854
00:37:02,637 --> 00:37:03,930
The front lawn.
855
00:37:03,971 --> 00:37:06,891
Is your front lawn visible
from your neighbor's property?
856
00:37:06,933 --> 00:37:07,934
Yes.
857
00:37:07,975 --> 00:37:09,936
Two of your neighbors
witnessed the accident
858
00:37:09,977 --> 00:37:11,229
that killed your son.
859
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:13,814
They both told the
police, they didn't see you
860
00:37:13,856 --> 00:37:16,025
on your lawn that day.
861
00:37:16,067 --> 00:37:17,735
I'm not sure I get your point.
862
00:37:17,777 --> 00:37:21,364
Mr. Paulson, where were
you when Andrew was hit?
863
00:37:21,405 --> 00:37:23,616
- On the front lawn.
- No, you weren't.
864
00:37:23,658 --> 00:37:26,077
And Mark riggs knew
it. He knew your secret.
865
00:37:26,118 --> 00:37:28,079
Isn't that why he
confronted you that night?
866
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,848
'Objection, your honor,
facts not in evidence'
867
00:37:29,872 --> 00:37:32,458
badgering the witness,
I could go on and on.
868
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:34,210
No need, Mr. Bosco, sustained.
869
00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:37,713
Mr. Paulson, where were
you when your son was killed?
870
00:37:37,755 --> 00:37:40,466
- 'Asked and answered.'
- Sustained.
871
00:37:40,508 --> 00:37:43,177
You told Mark riggs,
you were on the phone.
872
00:37:43,219 --> 00:37:44,303
I never told riggs that.
873
00:37:44,345 --> 00:37:46,973
Jesse Abrams will
testify that you did.
874
00:37:47,014 --> 00:37:49,850
We went back and pulled your
phone records from that day.
875
00:37:49,892 --> 00:37:52,395
You were on the phone
at the exact moment
876
00:37:52,436 --> 00:37:55,314
your son was hit by that car.
877
00:37:58,609 --> 00:38:00,361
I..
878
00:38:01,862 --> 00:38:03,906
I thought it might be Sarah.
879
00:38:03,948 --> 00:38:07,535
So I ran inside
to grab the phone.
880
00:38:07,576 --> 00:38:09,036
I-I wasn't gone a minute.
881
00:38:09,078 --> 00:38:11,872
Is that when you heard
the screech of the brakes?
882
00:38:11,914 --> 00:38:14,417
From inside your house?
883
00:38:16,335 --> 00:38:17,378
Yes.
884
00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:20,840
You couldn't tell your
wife the truth, could you?
885
00:38:20,881 --> 00:38:23,676
But Mark riggs was going to.
886
00:38:37,315 --> 00:38:39,108
Voluntary
manslaughter, ten years.
887
00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:41,277
- Mitigation?
- That deal disappeared.
888
00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:43,738
Paul, he does all ten.
889
00:38:46,407 --> 00:38:47,950
Do you have kids?
890
00:38:47,992 --> 00:38:49,535
One, daughter.
891
00:38:49,577 --> 00:38:50,619
We have three.
892
00:38:50,661 --> 00:38:53,247
You ever get distracted,
maybe lose sight of her
893
00:38:53,289 --> 00:38:54,498
for a few seconds?
894
00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:56,083
Of course.
895
00:38:56,959 --> 00:39:00,129
What happened to him
could happen to any of us.
896
00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:04,383
Yeah. But how he reacted to it..
897
00:39:04,425 --> 00:39:06,635
That was a choice.
898
00:39:06,677 --> 00:39:08,929
Yeah.
899
00:39:11,390 --> 00:39:14,393
Riggs asked me to
tell Sarah the truth
900
00:39:14,435 --> 00:39:16,812
about Andrew's death.
901
00:39:16,854 --> 00:39:20,191
He said he loved Sarah
902
00:39:20,232 --> 00:39:22,777
and she deserved to know.
903
00:39:22,818 --> 00:39:26,113
So she could go
forward with her life
904
00:39:26,155 --> 00:39:29,116
knowing the truth.
905
00:39:29,158 --> 00:39:31,660
That's why he
confronted me that night.
906
00:39:31,702 --> 00:39:34,205
To give me an ultimatum.
907
00:39:35,081 --> 00:39:39,043
Either I tell
Sarah the truth or..
908
00:39:39,085 --> 00:39:41,337
He would.
909
00:39:42,546 --> 00:39:45,091
I knew I couldn't.
910
00:39:45,132 --> 00:39:49,011
I was afraid that she
would never forgive me.
911
00:39:49,053 --> 00:39:54,850
I was afraid that she
would leave me for him.
912
00:39:54,892 --> 00:39:58,396
I grabbed the crowbar
from his truck and hit him.
913
00:39:58,437 --> 00:40:03,401
I took Courtney out of the
car and broke the window.
914
00:40:03,442 --> 00:40:06,862
To make it look like
he had attacked us.
915
00:40:14,620 --> 00:40:17,164
I'm so sorry.
916
00:40:17,206 --> 00:40:20,042
[Dramatic music]
917
00:40:33,264 --> 00:40:35,850
My reply to the bishop brief.
918
00:40:35,891 --> 00:40:37,476
You still want to read it?
919
00:40:37,518 --> 00:40:41,313
That was our deal,
right? Every painful detail.
920
00:40:43,482 --> 00:40:46,569
The gist of his appeal he's
claiming the breathalyzer
921
00:40:46,610 --> 00:40:49,572
hadn't be calibrated
in over six months
922
00:40:49,613 --> 00:40:52,032
which violates the statute.
923
00:40:52,074 --> 00:40:53,409
Do we know if that's true?
924
00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:55,744
Police department's having
a hard time tracking down
925
00:40:55,786 --> 00:40:57,371
the certificate to
prove otherwise.
926
00:40:57,413 --> 00:40:59,790
If they can't find it,
is bishop's conviction
927
00:40:59,832 --> 00:41:01,167
automatically overturned?
928
00:41:01,208 --> 00:41:03,961
Not automatic, but, likely.
929
00:41:04,003 --> 00:41:06,922
Ed's still chasing
the certificate.
930
00:41:06,964 --> 00:41:09,258
You mind if I read
this like a lawyer?
931
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,385
Just keep in mind
I wrote it like one.
932
00:41:11,427 --> 00:41:15,723
It may be hard to see Jack's
death reduced to legalese.
933
00:41:15,764 --> 00:41:17,516
I'll try.
934
00:41:17,558 --> 00:41:20,352
'How'd the sentencing go?'
935
00:41:20,394 --> 00:41:22,480
lathrop ignored
our recommendation
936
00:41:22,521 --> 00:41:25,357
and gave him six
years instead of ten.
937
00:41:25,399 --> 00:41:26,358
Lathrop doesn't do that.
938
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,068
Sarah Paulson asked
him to show mercy
939
00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:30,404
convinced him her
husband was a good person
940
00:41:30,446 --> 00:41:31,530
before their son died.
941
00:41:31,572 --> 00:41:33,240
You're unhappy
with the sentencing.
942
00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:34,992
Mark riggs was a
good person, too.
943
00:41:35,034 --> 00:41:38,329
Before his child died
and when he was killed.
944
00:41:38,370 --> 00:41:42,625
Like Jack.
945
00:41:42,666 --> 00:41:44,710
It's hard for judges and juries.
946
00:41:44,752 --> 00:41:47,171
They see the living
defendant in front of them
947
00:41:47,213 --> 00:41:51,467
and somebody like Paulson
who's a good man, basically.
948
00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:53,802
Wife, family.
949
00:41:53,844 --> 00:41:56,764
They have a hard time
remembering the victim
950
00:41:56,805 --> 00:41:59,308
who's dead and buried.
951
00:42:01,101 --> 00:42:04,271
I remember.
952
00:42:04,313 --> 00:42:06,524
I know.
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