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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,334 --> 00:00:04,045 [Intense music] 2 00:00:20,812 --> 00:00:23,523 [No audio] 3 00:00:27,193 --> 00:00:29,988 [Music continues] 4 00:00:43,334 --> 00:00:46,087 [Girl crying] 5 00:00:55,388 --> 00:00:58,183 [Music continues] 6 00:01:26,711 --> 00:01:29,172 Why'd you call us? What about your investigation? 7 00:01:29,214 --> 00:01:31,841 We didn't know what to do with him. Wanted some.. 8 00:01:31,883 --> 00:01:34,052 Guidance from the prosecutor's office. 9 00:01:34,094 --> 00:01:35,386 She was in the car? 10 00:01:35,428 --> 00:01:36,763 Mother's coming to pick her up. 11 00:01:36,805 --> 00:01:38,932 He got out and fought in front of her? 12 00:01:38,973 --> 00:01:41,768 - Where is this genius? - He's in with his attorney. 13 00:01:41,810 --> 00:01:45,146 A cop said his first call was 911, second was his wife. 14 00:01:45,188 --> 00:01:47,816 And third was his lawyer. So who is he? 15 00:01:47,857 --> 00:01:48,858 Greg Paulson. 16 00:01:48,900 --> 00:01:51,152 English professor, central Indiana. 17 00:01:51,194 --> 00:01:52,362 English professor? 18 00:01:52,403 --> 00:01:54,364 (Annabeth) 'This guy killed someone in a fight?' 19 00:01:54,405 --> 00:01:57,242 road rage. Says the other driver attacked him. 20 00:01:57,283 --> 00:01:58,326 He fought back. 21 00:01:58,368 --> 00:02:00,245 Looks like a lover, not a fighter. Alcohol? 22 00:02:00,286 --> 00:02:02,747 He did take a voluntary breathalyzer at the scene. 23 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:04,374 - Not a drop. - Who's the victim? 24 00:02:04,415 --> 00:02:06,709 According to his driver's license, Mark riggs. 25 00:02:06,751 --> 00:02:10,630 Coroner's prelim, blunt force trauma, fractured skull. 26 00:02:10,672 --> 00:02:13,091 - Broken right forearm. - Defensive wound. 27 00:02:13,133 --> 00:02:14,509 - That'd be my guess. - Weapon? 28 00:02:14,551 --> 00:02:16,052 Bloody crowbar next to the body. 29 00:02:16,094 --> 00:02:17,887 - Whose crowbar? - Probably the victim's. 30 00:02:17,929 --> 00:02:20,974 There were some loose tools in his pickup, a hard hat. 31 00:02:21,015 --> 00:02:22,559 A construction worker, carpenter. 32 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,726 Anything else? 33 00:02:23,768 --> 00:02:27,272 Passenger side window of Paulson's minivan was smashed. 34 00:02:27,313 --> 00:02:30,275 Few pieces of glass in the kid's car seat. 35 00:02:30,316 --> 00:02:32,068 We're lucky she wasn't cut up. 36 00:02:32,110 --> 00:02:34,821 - Witnesses? - It was dark, happened fast. 37 00:02:34,863 --> 00:02:36,990 - In other words.. - We're working on it. 38 00:02:37,031 --> 00:02:38,366 There's nobody helpful yet. 39 00:02:38,408 --> 00:02:39,367 [Knocking on door] 40 00:02:39,409 --> 00:02:42,704 Annabeth. So glad you're here. 41 00:02:42,745 --> 00:02:43,955 My client's ready to talk. 42 00:02:43,997 --> 00:02:45,665 You're letting a client talk, Paul? 43 00:02:45,707 --> 00:02:46,958 That's a novel strategy. 44 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,085 Well, you know the adage, annabeth. 45 00:02:49,127 --> 00:02:51,296 The truth will set you free. 46 00:02:51,337 --> 00:02:54,507 Do I look like the kind of guy who'd start a fight? 47 00:02:54,549 --> 00:02:57,760 Or finish one? I teach chaucer for god's sake. 48 00:02:57,802 --> 00:02:59,888 I wanted to get home with my daughter 49 00:02:59,929 --> 00:03:01,264 and have dinner with my wife. 50 00:03:01,306 --> 00:03:03,641 - Guy cut me off. - Did you provoke him? 51 00:03:03,683 --> 00:03:05,393 Flip him off, honk your horn? 52 00:03:05,435 --> 00:03:07,353 Not until he swerved in front of me. 53 00:03:07,395 --> 00:03:10,398 He blocked the road, wouldn't let me pass. 54 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,443 I honked. I got out to talk to him. 55 00:03:13,484 --> 00:03:15,695 And... he just went off on me. 56 00:03:15,737 --> 00:03:17,614 Why didn't you back up and drive away? 57 00:03:17,655 --> 00:03:21,034 I would have. But there was a car behind me. I got blocked. 58 00:03:21,075 --> 00:03:23,536 You left your three-year-old in the car, Mr. Paulson. 59 00:03:23,578 --> 00:03:25,288 I just wanted to talk to him. 60 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:28,666 I didn't think he was going to attack me with a crowbar. 61 00:03:28,708 --> 00:03:30,501 Where did he get the crowbar? 62 00:03:30,543 --> 00:03:32,128 Maybe from the back of his truck. 63 00:03:32,170 --> 00:03:34,130 Alright, walk me through exactly what happened 64 00:03:34,172 --> 00:03:35,882 when you and riggs got into this. 65 00:03:35,924 --> 00:03:38,551 - That's his name? - 'Mark riggs.' 66 00:03:38,593 --> 00:03:40,386 oh. 67 00:03:40,428 --> 00:03:42,388 He pushed me. He started yelling. 68 00:03:42,430 --> 00:03:45,475 - And you pushed back. - Just to keep him away from me. 69 00:03:45,516 --> 00:03:46,935 Why not get back in your car? 70 00:03:46,976 --> 00:03:49,520 Mr. Paulson wasn't the aggressor here, miss chase. 71 00:03:49,562 --> 00:03:51,689 Under Indiana law he had no duty to retreat. 72 00:03:51,731 --> 00:03:56,069 I wanted to, believe me. Then suddenly he's holding a crowbar 73 00:03:56,110 --> 00:03:58,780 slamming it at Courtney's window. 74 00:03:58,821 --> 00:04:00,782 He shattered it into a million pieces. 75 00:04:00,823 --> 00:04:02,992 I mean, thank god for safety glass. 76 00:04:03,034 --> 00:04:04,827 At that point, I had no choice. 77 00:04:04,869 --> 00:04:06,829 I had to protect her, fight back. 78 00:04:06,871 --> 00:04:09,249 How did you get the crowbar away from him? 79 00:04:09,290 --> 00:04:11,292 I don't know how. I just went berserk. 80 00:04:11,334 --> 00:04:14,462 Into another zone. Managed to wrestle it away from him. 81 00:04:14,504 --> 00:04:16,756 - And then? - I told him to back off. 82 00:04:16,798 --> 00:04:20,093 He just kept coming, so, uh... I hit him. 83 00:04:20,134 --> 00:04:21,970 - How many times? - Once. 84 00:04:22,011 --> 00:04:24,389 - Just once? - Mm-hmm, in the head. 85 00:04:24,430 --> 00:04:27,267 And then he just collapsed. 86 00:04:28,601 --> 00:04:32,021 I just wanted to keep him away from Courtney. 87 00:04:37,694 --> 00:04:40,405 Miss chase. 88 00:04:40,446 --> 00:04:42,699 - Hi. Sarah Paulson. - Hi, Mrs. Paulson. 89 00:04:42,740 --> 00:04:45,451 - Are you releasing Greg? - Not tonight. 90 00:04:45,493 --> 00:04:48,121 It wasn't his fault. He said that man attacked him. 91 00:04:48,162 --> 00:04:49,956 We're looking into his story, Mrs. Paulson. 92 00:04:49,998 --> 00:04:51,958 There's some things we need to clear up. 93 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,836 Please, just let him come home with me. With us. 94 00:04:54,877 --> 00:04:57,255 (Annabeth) 'I'll talk to my boss in the morning' 95 00:04:57,297 --> 00:04:59,632 'and we'll decide how to handle this case.' 96 00:04:59,674 --> 00:05:01,634 then you'll let him go? 97 00:05:01,676 --> 00:05:03,136 We have 72 hours to decide 98 00:05:03,177 --> 00:05:06,556 whether to charge him or release him. 99 00:05:08,850 --> 00:05:11,227 Come on, sweetie. 100 00:05:17,066 --> 00:05:18,818 You notify riggs' family? 101 00:05:18,860 --> 00:05:20,820 Yeah, we're looking for his next of kin. 102 00:05:20,862 --> 00:05:23,865 Contact number in his wallet. Linda Miller. 103 00:05:23,906 --> 00:05:25,783 Just two guys driving home, huh? 104 00:05:25,825 --> 00:05:27,618 Yeah, should've stayed in the car. 105 00:05:27,660 --> 00:05:28,828 Yeah, he should've. 106 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:31,039 Alright, let me know when you get the forensics. 107 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,042 An English professor with a nice wife and a little kid. 108 00:05:34,083 --> 00:05:37,879 I know. It's easier when they're scum. 109 00:05:38,921 --> 00:05:41,632 [Intense music] 110 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:45,136 [Police siren wailing] 111 00:05:46,512 --> 00:05:49,766 They were pushin' and shovin'. Using the worst language. 112 00:05:49,807 --> 00:05:51,851 'Did you see either man with a weapon?' 113 00:05:51,893 --> 00:05:55,104 - no, just their hands. - Then what happened? 114 00:05:55,146 --> 00:05:57,106 I went back inside to call 911. 115 00:05:57,148 --> 00:06:00,109 When I came out again, it was all over. 116 00:06:01,069 --> 00:06:03,988 As I pulled up, they were getting out of their cars. 117 00:06:04,030 --> 00:06:06,407 - You know, bring it on. - Who got out first? 118 00:06:06,449 --> 00:06:09,827 The guy in the pickup, I think. But both of them were angry. 119 00:06:09,869 --> 00:06:12,955 Yelling and cursing, "what the hell are you doing?" 120 00:06:12,997 --> 00:06:15,017 - You didn't stick around? - Didn't seem that serious. 121 00:06:15,041 --> 00:06:18,878 Just two guys blowing off steam at the end of a hard day. 122 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,421 I did call 911. 123 00:06:20,463 --> 00:06:22,131 I was listening to radio news 124 00:06:22,173 --> 00:06:24,175 and I heard a car window being smashed. 125 00:06:24,217 --> 00:06:25,694 We've had some break-ins here recently 126 00:06:25,718 --> 00:06:27,970 so I found my glasses and I went outside. 127 00:06:28,012 --> 00:06:30,139 How long did you take to find them? 128 00:06:30,181 --> 00:06:31,682 Few minutes. They were upstairs. 129 00:06:31,724 --> 00:06:33,518 I don't need them for the radio. 130 00:06:33,559 --> 00:06:35,436 And then? When you went outside? 131 00:06:35,478 --> 00:06:37,563 One man was laying on the ground. 132 00:06:37,605 --> 00:06:40,400 Another man was standing over him, holding a crowbar. 133 00:06:40,441 --> 00:06:43,945 'The man on the ground wasn't moving.' 134 00:06:43,986 --> 00:06:46,697 [intense music] 135 00:06:47,615 --> 00:06:49,409 So where are you with the appeal? 136 00:06:49,450 --> 00:06:51,285 - Which? - Vehicular homicide. 137 00:06:51,327 --> 00:06:53,371 The guy who killed annabeth's husband. 138 00:06:53,413 --> 00:06:55,331 - Trent bishop. - Bishop. 139 00:06:55,373 --> 00:06:57,458 I'm working on the reply brief. 140 00:06:57,500 --> 00:07:00,795 Is it a formality or does bishop really have a chance? 141 00:07:00,837 --> 00:07:02,380 Afraid so. 142 00:07:02,422 --> 00:07:04,340 Breathalyzer hadn't been recalibrated. 143 00:07:04,382 --> 00:07:05,425 You're kidding. 144 00:07:05,466 --> 00:07:07,635 Plenty of precedent for granting him a new trial. 145 00:07:07,677 --> 00:07:09,971 - Does annabeth know? - She asked to stay posted. 146 00:07:10,012 --> 00:07:11,514 I'll show her the completed draft. 147 00:07:11,556 --> 00:07:13,182 Hopefully, we can wrap this up quickly. 148 00:07:13,224 --> 00:07:16,185 I don't want her to relive this whole ugly experience 149 00:07:16,227 --> 00:07:18,479 over a technicality. 150 00:07:21,107 --> 00:07:23,484 The professor versus the carpenter. 151 00:07:23,526 --> 00:07:25,445 So, self-defense or something else? 152 00:07:25,486 --> 00:07:27,572 Eyewitness testimony is inconclusive. 153 00:07:27,613 --> 00:07:30,700 No one saw either man take the crowbar from riggs' truck. 154 00:07:30,741 --> 00:07:33,661 Paulson claims riggs attacked him, smashed in his car window 155 00:07:33,703 --> 00:07:35,580 'but forensics don't match.' 156 00:07:35,621 --> 00:07:37,266 'riggs' fingerprints aren't on the crowbar.' 157 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:39,542 - but Paulson's are. - 'Yeah, what you'd expect.' 158 00:07:39,584 --> 00:07:41,043 but he also struck riggs twice. 159 00:07:41,085 --> 00:07:43,963 The first blow broke riggs' arm, trying to defend himself. 160 00:07:44,005 --> 00:07:46,090 Paulson didn't need to hit him on the head. 161 00:07:46,132 --> 00:07:49,093 - He was no longer in danger. - If he had ever been. 162 00:07:49,135 --> 00:07:51,637 Let's see how he defends himself against a murder charge. 163 00:07:51,679 --> 00:07:53,764 Street fights, road rage, not great witnesses. 164 00:07:53,806 --> 00:07:55,826 'Wouldn't manslaughter be an easier charge to make?' 165 00:07:55,850 --> 00:07:58,102 charge high, leave yourself some room to negotiate. 166 00:07:58,144 --> 00:08:00,730 We may need it. Our victim, riggs, had a record. 167 00:08:00,771 --> 00:08:03,608 - 'Dui, misdemeanor assault.' - Assault? 168 00:08:03,649 --> 00:08:06,777 'Yeah. Few years ago. Some kind of scuffle at the county fair.' 169 00:08:06,819 --> 00:08:09,280 he'd pled guilty, 20 hours community service. 170 00:08:09,322 --> 00:08:11,657 Let me guess, professor Paulson has no record? 171 00:08:11,699 --> 00:08:13,534 Not even an unpaid parking ticket. 172 00:08:13,576 --> 00:08:15,495 Sympathetic defendant, unsympathetic victim. 173 00:08:15,536 --> 00:08:18,289 Paulson may be sympathetic but the evidence says he's lying. 174 00:08:18,331 --> 00:08:20,291 The second blow, the fingerprints. 175 00:08:20,333 --> 00:08:22,043 'Professor Paulson claims self-defense' 176 00:08:22,084 --> 00:08:24,003 against a guy who's bigger than him 177 00:08:24,045 --> 00:08:25,588 has a record of assault and dui 178 00:08:25,630 --> 00:08:28,758 'who cuts him off in traffic, confronts him on the street.' 179 00:08:28,799 --> 00:08:30,218 jury might find that persuasive. 180 00:08:30,259 --> 00:08:32,762 This case is going to come down to character. 181 00:08:32,803 --> 00:08:34,055 Riggs versus Paulson. 182 00:08:34,096 --> 00:08:38,434 From what I just heard, Paulson's got it hands down. 183 00:08:48,611 --> 00:08:50,422 The murder of Mark riggs, Mr. Paulson, how do you plead? 184 00:08:50,446 --> 00:08:52,049 Not guilty, your honor. The defendant was acting 185 00:08:52,073 --> 00:08:53,908 in self-defense and to protect his child. 186 00:08:53,950 --> 00:08:56,077 We plead his release on his own recognizance. 187 00:08:56,118 --> 00:08:57,578 This is a murder charge, your honor. 188 00:08:57,620 --> 00:09:00,331 Not a moving violation. We ask the defendant be remanded. 189 00:09:00,373 --> 00:09:01,916 'Mr. Paulson has no criminal record' 190 00:09:01,958 --> 00:09:04,835 tenure at the university, strong ties to the community. 191 00:09:04,877 --> 00:09:07,672 Bail is set at $200,000. Cash or bond. 192 00:09:07,713 --> 00:09:10,091 (Paul) 'Thank you, your honor.' 193 00:09:10,132 --> 00:09:12,343 I'll see you downstairs. 194 00:09:13,177 --> 00:09:14,720 Why so adamant, annabeth? 195 00:09:14,762 --> 00:09:16,556 Paulson's hardly public enemy number one. 196 00:09:16,597 --> 00:09:19,225 Paulson left a child he was supposedly trying to protect 197 00:09:19,267 --> 00:09:21,185 in the car alone while he confronted riggs. 198 00:09:21,227 --> 00:09:23,563 Is this about leaving the kid in the car? 199 00:09:23,604 --> 00:09:25,082 Forensics indicate Paulson was the aggressor. 200 00:09:25,106 --> 00:09:28,150 He also lied to the police and this office about what happened. 201 00:09:28,192 --> 00:09:30,736 Not lies, he gave contradictory statements under stress. 202 00:09:30,778 --> 00:09:33,322 The lack of prints on the crowbar doesn't mean anything. 203 00:09:33,364 --> 00:09:36,951 It will to a jury. Your client picked up that crowbar, Paul. 204 00:09:36,993 --> 00:09:38,744 He struck Mr. Riggs twice, not once. 205 00:09:38,786 --> 00:09:40,329 The second time after disabling him. 206 00:09:40,371 --> 00:09:41,765 There's no way this was self-defense. 207 00:09:41,789 --> 00:09:44,166 - Broken window in the mini-Van? - Paulson broke it himself. 208 00:09:44,208 --> 00:09:46,752 Anyone see him do it? Didn't think so. 209 00:09:46,794 --> 00:09:49,255 When you're ready to be reasonable, call me. 210 00:09:49,297 --> 00:09:50,548 You'd be open to a deal? 211 00:09:50,590 --> 00:09:53,718 Well, if it involves dropping the charges. 212 00:09:53,759 --> 00:09:55,720 Have a nice day. 213 00:09:55,761 --> 00:09:59,682 We need to paint a picture of these two men for the jury. 214 00:09:59,724 --> 00:10:00,683 I'll take riggs. 215 00:10:00,725 --> 00:10:02,435 Let's talk to the guy riggs assaulted. 216 00:10:02,476 --> 00:10:04,604 See if his testimony will soften the jury. 217 00:10:04,645 --> 00:10:06,272 We ever reached that emergency contact? 218 00:10:06,314 --> 00:10:07,607 Linda Miller, his ex-wife. 219 00:10:07,648 --> 00:10:09,984 See if she has anything nice to say about him. 220 00:10:10,026 --> 00:10:13,362 I'm sure she won't have nice things to say about him. 221 00:10:13,404 --> 00:10:15,114 Mine does. 222 00:10:15,156 --> 00:10:16,907 I didn't know you've been married. 223 00:10:16,949 --> 00:10:18,242 Neither does she. 224 00:10:18,284 --> 00:10:21,871 I'll look into Paulson and see what kind of family man he is. 225 00:10:21,912 --> 00:10:24,206 The kind who fights in front of his kid. 226 00:10:24,248 --> 00:10:25,625 (Williams) 'Why was she with him?' 227 00:10:25,666 --> 00:10:27,251 he picked her up from day care 228 00:10:27,293 --> 00:10:29,086 - on his way home. - I'll check that out. 229 00:10:29,128 --> 00:10:32,673 It would be nice if one of you could talk to Mrs. Paulson. 230 00:10:32,715 --> 00:10:34,800 She and annabeth already spoke so I'll go. 231 00:10:34,842 --> 00:10:36,260 Why would she open the door? 232 00:10:36,302 --> 00:10:38,846 She left her daughter's blanket at the precinct. 233 00:10:38,888 --> 00:10:40,139 I know, it's a long shot. 234 00:10:40,181 --> 00:10:44,477 Well, it might work. At least it's a reason to knock. 235 00:10:47,980 --> 00:10:49,857 As fathers go, he was pretty involved. 236 00:10:49,899 --> 00:10:52,568 Picked up Courtney almost every day after work. 237 00:10:52,610 --> 00:10:54,445 That day, what kinda mood was he in? 238 00:10:54,487 --> 00:10:57,990 Foul. He was running late. It was getting dark. 239 00:10:58,032 --> 00:11:02,161 I was anxious to lock up and go home. He seemed stressed. 240 00:11:02,203 --> 00:11:04,121 Courtney was cranky, she wanted to go home. 241 00:11:04,163 --> 00:11:08,125 He yelled at me like it was my fault she was the last here. 242 00:11:08,167 --> 00:11:11,962 - Is he usually bad-tempered? - 'A lot. With everyone.' 243 00:11:12,004 --> 00:11:15,966 - huh. Seems so mild mannered. - Used to be. 244 00:11:16,008 --> 00:11:18,886 He really changed a lot after his little boy died. 245 00:11:18,928 --> 00:11:21,597 - He lost a child? - About a year ago. 246 00:11:21,639 --> 00:11:24,558 Andrew. Three. 247 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,268 Beautiful boy. 248 00:11:26,310 --> 00:11:28,896 Hit by a car right in front of their house. 249 00:11:28,938 --> 00:11:31,524 - Man, that's tough. - Yeah. 250 00:11:31,565 --> 00:11:32,650 Ever since that happened 251 00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:35,653 Mr. Paulson's just been mad at the world. 252 00:11:35,695 --> 00:11:39,490 - I would be. - Me, too. No question. 253 00:11:40,700 --> 00:11:43,452 Tell me exactly what happened that day with this guy riggs. 254 00:11:43,494 --> 00:11:46,330 - You're at the fair.. - In line to get ice cream. 255 00:11:46,372 --> 00:11:47,748 My kids are goofing around. 256 00:11:47,790 --> 00:11:51,085 You know, not misbehaving, just rambunctious. 257 00:11:51,127 --> 00:11:53,212 Suddenly, this guy's going off on me. 258 00:11:53,254 --> 00:11:55,965 Yelling, telling me to control my kids. 259 00:11:56,006 --> 00:11:58,050 Poking me in the chest with his finger. 260 00:11:58,092 --> 00:12:00,219 The kids start screaming and crying. 261 00:12:00,261 --> 00:12:02,555 It was a scene. Spoiled the day. 262 00:12:02,596 --> 00:12:05,558 - So you pressed charges. - I thought twice about it. 263 00:12:05,599 --> 00:12:07,435 I heard he pled to a misdemeanor 264 00:12:07,476 --> 00:12:09,562 so tempers stay in the tea pot, huh? 265 00:12:09,603 --> 00:12:11,147 You say you thought twice about it. 266 00:12:11,188 --> 00:12:14,275 His ex-wife called me, asked me to cut the guy a break. 267 00:12:14,316 --> 00:12:16,360 Said he'd been going through a rough time. 268 00:12:16,402 --> 00:12:20,156 - Did she say why? - No. I didn't ask. 269 00:12:21,490 --> 00:12:25,411 My husband's lawyer says I shouldn't talk to you people. 270 00:12:25,453 --> 00:12:26,537 Mr. Boscoe's right. 271 00:12:26,579 --> 00:12:28,539 We can't compel you to tell us anything 272 00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:30,916 your husband might have told you that night. 273 00:12:30,958 --> 00:12:32,084 It's privileged. 274 00:12:32,126 --> 00:12:35,546 But I thought you might want to talk about Greg in general. 275 00:12:35,588 --> 00:12:37,882 Why would I want to do that? 276 00:12:37,923 --> 00:12:39,508 We've been told your husband's 277 00:12:39,550 --> 00:12:42,094 been mad at the world since your son died. 278 00:12:42,136 --> 00:12:44,513 He's been upset. I have too. 279 00:12:44,555 --> 00:12:47,183 We just... Deal with it differently. 280 00:12:47,224 --> 00:12:50,436 I thought you might wanna soften the picture of him a little. 281 00:12:50,478 --> 00:12:53,647 Why would you want to? You're prosecuting him for murder. 282 00:12:53,689 --> 00:12:55,357 We're not monsters, Mrs. Paulson. 283 00:12:55,399 --> 00:12:57,276 We wanna know what really happened that night. 284 00:12:57,318 --> 00:13:02,156 Maybe this whole tragedy doesn't have to end with a trial. 285 00:13:05,743 --> 00:13:09,497 Greg has been depressed. Distant. 286 00:13:09,538 --> 00:13:12,208 I can understand how people think he has a temper. 287 00:13:12,249 --> 00:13:15,085 He is angry, but not at the world. 288 00:13:15,127 --> 00:13:20,007 He... blames himself for what happened. 289 00:13:20,049 --> 00:13:22,426 Why? What happened? 290 00:13:22,468 --> 00:13:24,970 [Instrumental music] 291 00:13:25,012 --> 00:13:29,850 I wasn't home. I had taken Courtney and gone shopping. 292 00:13:29,892 --> 00:13:33,979 They were out in the yard playing. 293 00:13:34,021 --> 00:13:38,108 Andrew ran into the street. 294 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:40,277 I'm so sorry. 295 00:13:40,319 --> 00:13:43,531 I can't imagine what that must feel like. 296 00:13:43,572 --> 00:13:45,032 There are mornings you don't think 297 00:13:45,074 --> 00:13:49,495 you can get out of bed and face the day. 298 00:13:49,537 --> 00:13:54,708 But... we have Courtney, so we have to.. 299 00:13:54,750 --> 00:13:59,088 I mean, it's good. She gives us both a reason to go on. 300 00:13:59,129 --> 00:14:01,882 [Music continues] 301 00:14:01,924 --> 00:14:04,593 'The day after he died, I hadn't read the paper' 302 00:14:04,635 --> 00:14:06,136 and no one phoned me yet. 303 00:14:06,178 --> 00:14:09,932 So I phoned him to ask for help in trimming the hedges. 304 00:14:09,974 --> 00:14:12,184 You stayed close, even after your divorce? 305 00:14:12,226 --> 00:14:13,269 Closer, actually. 306 00:14:13,310 --> 00:14:15,062 We'd spent years watching Jenny die. 307 00:14:15,104 --> 00:14:17,648 That's not an experience anyone else can ever understand. 308 00:14:17,690 --> 00:14:20,234 - Jenny? - Our daughter. Leukemia. 309 00:14:20,276 --> 00:14:23,571 She was five when she got sick and nine when she died. 310 00:14:23,612 --> 00:14:26,073 After she died, I went to bed for five months 311 00:14:26,115 --> 00:14:28,701 and Mark went drinking. You gotta cope, right? 312 00:14:28,742 --> 00:14:30,077 - Right. - Anyway.. 313 00:14:30,119 --> 00:14:32,872 Every time I looked at Mark I could only see Jenny. 314 00:14:32,913 --> 00:14:37,042 And I'm sure it was the same for him. So we split. 315 00:14:37,084 --> 00:14:38,669 When did you two.. 316 00:14:38,711 --> 00:14:40,379 After the divorce, Mark got involved 317 00:14:40,421 --> 00:14:42,715 with a support group for grieving parents. 318 00:14:42,756 --> 00:14:44,300 Pulled himself together. 319 00:14:44,341 --> 00:14:46,802 He called me to see how I was doing 320 00:14:46,844 --> 00:14:48,220 and we started talking again. 321 00:14:48,262 --> 00:14:51,265 We heard he had some trouble. Dui, scuffle at the county fair. 322 00:14:51,307 --> 00:14:54,351 All that was the year after Jenny died, but he'd changed. 323 00:14:54,393 --> 00:14:56,145 This group had really helped him. 324 00:14:56,186 --> 00:14:59,189 That's why I was surprised to hear he got into a fight. 325 00:14:59,231 --> 00:15:02,067 - Where does this group meet? - Over at St. Stevens. 326 00:15:02,109 --> 00:15:04,528 Jesse Abrams, he's the leader. 327 00:15:04,570 --> 00:15:08,407 I was sick when I heard what happened to Mark. 328 00:15:08,449 --> 00:15:09,909 You knew him pretty well? 329 00:15:09,950 --> 00:15:12,453 We spoke at length probably four times a week 330 00:15:12,494 --> 00:15:14,079 for the past year and a half. 331 00:15:14,121 --> 00:15:16,165 I got to know Mark inside and out. 332 00:15:16,206 --> 00:15:18,334 His ex says you helped turn him around. 333 00:15:18,375 --> 00:15:19,835 She gives me too much credit. 334 00:15:19,877 --> 00:15:21,587 Mark turned himself around. 335 00:15:21,629 --> 00:15:24,590 Threw himself into this work, heart and soul. 336 00:15:24,632 --> 00:15:26,216 His way of mourning Jenny. 337 00:15:26,258 --> 00:15:29,219 - Threw himself into it? - He counseled other parents. 338 00:15:29,261 --> 00:15:31,931 Did outreach work for us at local hospitals. 339 00:15:31,972 --> 00:15:35,059 - He was good at it? - He'd been through it himself. 340 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:37,895 He could talk to a parent who'd just been told 341 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:39,355 his or her child had died. 342 00:15:39,396 --> 00:15:41,815 - That's not easy. - What would he tell them? 343 00:15:41,857 --> 00:15:43,776 He'd stay with them, comfort them. 344 00:15:43,817 --> 00:15:46,028 Contact them a few days or weeks later. 345 00:15:46,070 --> 00:15:47,529 Tell them about the group. 346 00:15:47,571 --> 00:15:50,950 Ask them if they'd like to come to a meeting. 347 00:15:50,991 --> 00:15:52,618 You keep records of those meetings? 348 00:15:52,660 --> 00:15:54,578 Regular members and guests. 349 00:15:54,620 --> 00:15:55,955 I can fax it to you. 350 00:15:55,996 --> 00:15:57,581 What about the people he counseled? 351 00:15:57,623 --> 00:16:01,418 That list I can give you right now. 352 00:16:02,628 --> 00:16:05,339 [Intense music] 353 00:16:08,968 --> 00:16:11,011 I'll be damned. 354 00:16:11,053 --> 00:16:12,346 Greg Paulson? 355 00:16:12,388 --> 00:16:14,640 Riggs counseled him after his son died. 356 00:16:14,682 --> 00:16:16,600 So Paulson lied about knowing riggs. 357 00:16:16,642 --> 00:16:18,102 He's been lying from the get-go. 358 00:16:18,143 --> 00:16:19,579 They certainly weren't total strangers. 359 00:16:19,603 --> 00:16:22,690 After they met at the hospital riggs invited him to the group. 360 00:16:22,731 --> 00:16:26,026 June of last year, Paulson went to two meetings at St. Stevens. 361 00:16:26,068 --> 00:16:28,112 I pulled a police report on the accident. 362 00:16:28,153 --> 00:16:31,365 Paulson and his son were playing hide-and-seek on the front lawn. 363 00:16:31,407 --> 00:16:32,574 He lost sight of his son 364 00:16:32,616 --> 00:16:35,661 who ran out into the street and got hit by a car. 365 00:16:35,703 --> 00:16:38,872 Sad story. Think they might try to use it with the jury? 366 00:16:38,914 --> 00:16:41,208 How is that relevant to a self-defense claim? 367 00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:42,334 State of mind. 368 00:16:42,376 --> 00:16:46,005 I hope the judge doesn't allow it. However, if he did.. 369 00:16:46,046 --> 00:16:49,425 They might pity him and forgive him for his inconsistent story. 370 00:16:49,466 --> 00:16:50,968 Inconsistencies? 371 00:16:51,010 --> 00:16:54,221 At this point, going in front of a jury could be dodgy. 372 00:16:54,263 --> 00:16:56,724 Maybe we could use the lie to leverage Paulson 373 00:16:56,765 --> 00:16:57,975 to take a manslaughter plea. 374 00:16:58,017 --> 00:16:59,893 We haven't even scratched the surface here. 375 00:16:59,935 --> 00:17:01,228 Why would Paulson kill someone 376 00:17:01,270 --> 00:17:03,272 trying to help him mourn his son's death? 377 00:17:03,313 --> 00:17:05,733 If we find out what they fought about that night 378 00:17:05,774 --> 00:17:08,193 we'd have a motive to support the murder charge. 379 00:17:08,235 --> 00:17:11,113 If we could, we might or we might not. 380 00:17:11,155 --> 00:17:13,115 Offer Paulson voluntary manslaughter 381 00:17:13,157 --> 00:17:16,160 and let's put this to bed. 382 00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:21,582 Your client lied to us, Paul. He knew Mark riggs. 383 00:17:21,623 --> 00:17:23,083 You keep accusing him of that. 384 00:17:23,125 --> 00:17:26,253 He didn't lie, just didn't mention it. How is it relevant? 385 00:17:26,295 --> 00:17:27,713 It's still a road rage incident 386 00:17:27,755 --> 00:17:29,423 whether they knew each other or not. 387 00:17:29,465 --> 00:17:31,884 I thought we were gonna talk about a plea. 388 00:17:31,925 --> 00:17:33,761 Voluntary manslaughter, ten years. 389 00:17:33,802 --> 00:17:35,971 Four suspended for mitigating circumstances. 390 00:17:36,013 --> 00:17:40,017 Voluntary man, ten years, two suspended. 391 00:17:40,059 --> 00:17:41,935 Eight years, Greg. 392 00:17:41,977 --> 00:17:45,647 Make parole, you'll be out in four. 393 00:17:47,107 --> 00:17:49,443 Done. 394 00:17:49,485 --> 00:17:51,278 Tell me what happened that night. 395 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,031 We knew each other from the grief group. That's true. 396 00:17:54,073 --> 00:17:55,824 But I hadn't seen Mark in months. 397 00:17:55,866 --> 00:17:58,452 When he got out of the car, he looked familiar 398 00:17:58,494 --> 00:18:01,330 but I barely remembered him. It was dark and.. 399 00:18:01,371 --> 00:18:04,374 It wasn't until afterwards that I realized that it was him. 400 00:18:04,416 --> 00:18:07,586 - What were you fighting about? - Well, it happened like I said. 401 00:18:07,628 --> 00:18:09,838 He cut me off. I don't know why. 402 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,965 You're still claiming this was a traffic altercation? 403 00:18:12,007 --> 00:18:14,259 Maybe he was irate because I honked my horn. 404 00:18:14,301 --> 00:18:18,097 He came at me with a crowbar and smashed my window. 405 00:18:18,138 --> 00:18:20,516 I had to defend myself and my daughter. 406 00:18:20,557 --> 00:18:22,267 You told us you hit him once. 407 00:18:22,309 --> 00:18:23,703 The coroner's report is irrefutable. 408 00:18:23,727 --> 00:18:25,604 I don't remember hitting him the second time. 409 00:18:25,646 --> 00:18:28,524 I was in a state, I was fighting for our lives. 410 00:18:28,565 --> 00:18:30,484 - You were enraged. - I was scared to death. 411 00:18:30,526 --> 00:18:33,529 Even if that were true, your first blow broke his arm. 412 00:18:33,570 --> 00:18:36,698 You were in no danger when you struck the lethal blow. 413 00:18:36,740 --> 00:18:38,909 I didn't know that. 414 00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:40,953 I don't believe you. You're a liar. 415 00:18:40,994 --> 00:18:42,287 Annabeth, that's uncalled for. 416 00:18:42,329 --> 00:18:45,165 You've lied to us from the beginning and you're lying now. 417 00:18:45,207 --> 00:18:47,126 That's the story that I've told all along 418 00:18:47,167 --> 00:18:50,087 and that's the only story that I'm going to tell. 419 00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:51,213 Then we have a problem 420 00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:53,757 because I'm not gonna let you lie to the judge. 421 00:18:53,799 --> 00:18:55,759 Annabeth, please, we can make this deal. 422 00:18:55,801 --> 00:18:57,052 Last chance, Mr. Paulson. 423 00:18:57,094 --> 00:18:59,805 - I already told you. - 'If that's a challenge..' 424 00:18:59,847 --> 00:19:01,431 I'll take it. 425 00:19:01,473 --> 00:19:04,726 And you'll be sorry I did. 426 00:19:07,563 --> 00:19:08,706 I asked you to settle the case. 427 00:19:08,730 --> 00:19:10,107 I thought his proffer was a line. 428 00:19:10,149 --> 00:19:11,543 I didn't think judge lathrop would accept it. 429 00:19:11,567 --> 00:19:13,110 He would've accepted it. I accepted it. 430 00:19:13,152 --> 00:19:14,945 Paulson accepted it. Everyone but you. 431 00:19:14,987 --> 00:19:17,072 I'm not comfortable settling with no idea 432 00:19:17,114 --> 00:19:18,157 of what really happened. 433 00:19:18,198 --> 00:19:19,449 That isn't your job. 434 00:19:19,491 --> 00:19:22,411 Your job is to accurately assess the strength of the case. 435 00:19:22,452 --> 00:19:24,621 Ambiguous evidence, inconclusive witnesses 436 00:19:24,663 --> 00:19:26,999 sympathetic defendant, semi-sympathetic victim. 437 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,668 This wasn't road rage. They were fighting about something else. 438 00:19:29,710 --> 00:19:31,712 - You're not sure. - I'm trying to find out. 439 00:19:31,753 --> 00:19:34,506 We got permission from riggs' ex-wife to search his apartment. 440 00:19:34,548 --> 00:19:37,050 Ed and ray can go over there right now. 441 00:19:37,092 --> 00:19:38,886 You have two days to show me something. 442 00:19:38,927 --> 00:19:42,431 Otherwise, we go back to boscoe, and we make the deal. 443 00:19:42,472 --> 00:19:45,350 - Two days. - Okay. 444 00:19:46,059 --> 00:19:48,770 [Dramatic music] 445 00:19:50,981 --> 00:19:55,527 The riggs family, they look like they were happy. 446 00:19:55,569 --> 00:19:57,070 Family pictures always look happy. 447 00:19:57,112 --> 00:20:01,825 Right, who hangs the ones where everyone looks miserable? 448 00:20:01,867 --> 00:20:03,911 His daughter dies, his whole life changes. 449 00:20:03,952 --> 00:20:05,996 The death of a child rocks your world. 450 00:20:06,038 --> 00:20:08,457 Drinking, assault, arrest, losing his wife. 451 00:20:08,498 --> 00:20:09,875 It's like a punishment. 452 00:20:09,917 --> 00:20:13,754 What did he do other than have a kid who got sick? Nothing. 453 00:20:13,795 --> 00:20:17,549 He made something out of it in the end. 454 00:20:17,591 --> 00:20:20,886 The support group. 455 00:20:20,928 --> 00:20:24,473 Look at these. 456 00:20:24,514 --> 00:20:26,183 Recognize the names? 457 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:28,352 Recognize this one. Paulson. 458 00:20:28,393 --> 00:20:32,147 Must be the people he counseled. 459 00:20:32,189 --> 00:20:34,816 This is all about the Paulson's son. 460 00:20:34,858 --> 00:20:38,195 Name, birthday, anniversary of death 461 00:20:38,237 --> 00:20:40,989 favorite food, toys. 462 00:20:41,031 --> 00:20:45,035 Pictures. 463 00:20:45,077 --> 00:20:46,078 (Ed) Sarah Paulson. 464 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,288 Maybe riggs counseled her, too. 465 00:20:48,330 --> 00:20:51,124 Maybe. 466 00:20:51,166 --> 00:20:52,334 He must have. 467 00:20:52,376 --> 00:20:54,253 'They went to calvary cemetery together' 468 00:20:54,294 --> 00:20:55,504 where Andrew Paulson's buried. 469 00:20:55,545 --> 00:20:58,924 Almost every Tuesday for the past year. 470 00:21:00,634 --> 00:21:01,843 Almost every week. Regulars. 471 00:21:01,885 --> 00:21:03,929 What was their routine? What would they do? 472 00:21:03,971 --> 00:21:05,722 Go to the gravesite for a while 473 00:21:05,764 --> 00:21:09,268 sit, hold hands, maybe walk around, talk. 474 00:21:09,309 --> 00:21:11,478 Sometimes they'd even pack a picnic lunch 475 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,896 spend the afternoon. 476 00:21:12,938 --> 00:21:14,749 What was your impression of their relationship? 477 00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:17,818 Really good. Better than most couples grieving a child. 478 00:21:17,859 --> 00:21:19,278 You thought they were a couple? 479 00:21:19,319 --> 00:21:21,655 The parents? Yeah. Definitely. 480 00:21:21,697 --> 00:21:23,782 - They told you that? - You can tell. 481 00:21:23,824 --> 00:21:26,326 They'd touch, console each other 482 00:21:26,368 --> 00:21:27,703 and they always came together. 483 00:21:27,744 --> 00:21:29,997 - Together? - A lot of parents come alone. 484 00:21:30,038 --> 00:21:31,039 Grieve separately. 485 00:21:31,081 --> 00:21:33,041 It's too painful for them to be together. 486 00:21:33,083 --> 00:21:35,085 They blame each other or whatever. 487 00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:37,546 These two were definitely helping the other one 488 00:21:37,587 --> 00:21:39,965 get through this. 489 00:21:41,174 --> 00:21:42,801 Weekly visits to a cemetery hardly prove 490 00:21:42,843 --> 00:21:45,178 Mark riggs and Sarah Paulson were having an affair. 491 00:21:45,220 --> 00:21:48,181 They talked on the phone several times a day for months. 492 00:21:48,223 --> 00:21:49,683 And according to Mark riggs' calendar 493 00:21:49,725 --> 00:21:51,476 they also met in restaurants, coffee shops 494 00:21:51,518 --> 00:21:52,894 'even his apartment occasionally.' 495 00:21:52,936 --> 00:21:54,021 he was counseling her. 496 00:21:54,062 --> 00:21:55,981 Oh, is that what it's called nowadays? 497 00:21:56,023 --> 00:21:58,358 Greg Paulson was so distraught over his son's death 498 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,193 he temporarily checked out of the marriage 499 00:22:00,235 --> 00:22:02,195 and Sarah needed someone to confide in. 500 00:22:02,237 --> 00:22:04,406 - Riggs. - They fell in love. 501 00:22:04,448 --> 00:22:05,782 I'm still not making the leap. 502 00:22:05,824 --> 00:22:08,035 Look at the timeline of the phone calls. 503 00:22:08,076 --> 00:22:09,512 'Riggs meets Paulson at the hospital' 504 00:22:09,536 --> 00:22:12,706 'Andrew dies, a few weeks later, riggs brings Paulson' 505 00:22:12,748 --> 00:22:15,042 'to two grief group meetings at St. Stevens.' 506 00:22:15,083 --> 00:22:16,585 that's where their relationship ends. 507 00:22:16,626 --> 00:22:18,587 No more meetings, no more phone calls 508 00:22:18,628 --> 00:22:20,130 between riggs' and Paulson's office. 509 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:22,257 But for the first time a few weeks later 510 00:22:22,299 --> 00:22:25,302 riggs calls up Paulson's home and talks for almost an hour. 511 00:22:25,344 --> 00:22:27,888 And you think he talked to Sarah Paulson, why? 512 00:22:27,929 --> 00:22:29,890 Riggs never calls up Paulson's home number again 513 00:22:29,931 --> 00:22:32,476 only Sarah's cell phone, which he calls all the time. 514 00:22:32,517 --> 00:22:34,978 Until this day, shortly before the murder 515 00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:37,439 'when the connection between Sarah and riggs ends.' 516 00:22:37,481 --> 00:22:40,233 one of them broke it off. Or Paulson found out. 517 00:22:40,275 --> 00:22:41,443 - An affair? - What else? 518 00:22:41,485 --> 00:22:43,028 They obviously were trying to keep 519 00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:44,589 their relationship secret from her husband. 520 00:22:44,613 --> 00:22:47,366 And that's what riggs and Paulson fought about that night? 521 00:22:47,407 --> 00:22:51,745 I think so. I wanna ask Sarah about it under oath. 522 00:22:51,787 --> 00:22:53,914 Alright. Depose her. 523 00:22:54,956 --> 00:22:58,293 I lied because I didn't want to cause Greg any more trouble. 524 00:22:58,335 --> 00:23:00,170 You were having an affair with the man 525 00:23:00,212 --> 00:23:02,839 your husband killed, and you knew how that would look. 526 00:23:02,881 --> 00:23:04,633 Could you not call it that, please? 527 00:23:04,674 --> 00:23:06,676 - 'What would you call it?' - A friendship. 528 00:23:06,718 --> 00:23:09,971 We have phone records, photos of the two of you together 529 00:23:10,013 --> 00:23:12,766 notes of the times you met at the cemetery, his apartment. 530 00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:15,769 I know that it looks like an affair, but it wasn't. 531 00:23:15,811 --> 00:23:18,897 Well, whatever it was, how did it start? 532 00:23:18,939 --> 00:23:21,149 Mark called the house, looking for Greg. 533 00:23:21,191 --> 00:23:24,528 I told him Greg didn't want to continue going to group. 534 00:23:24,569 --> 00:23:27,030 He said he understood that. 535 00:23:27,072 --> 00:23:30,450 And then he asked how I was doing. 536 00:23:30,492 --> 00:23:33,662 And that just opened the floodgates. 537 00:23:33,703 --> 00:23:34,746 We talked about Andrew. 538 00:23:34,788 --> 00:23:36,748 Greg and I weren't talking about Andrew 539 00:23:36,790 --> 00:23:38,333 or anything else for that matter. 540 00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:39,626 And Mark riggs understood? 541 00:23:39,668 --> 00:23:42,254 He had lost a daughter and a marriage. 542 00:23:42,295 --> 00:23:45,632 He knew exactly what I was going through. 543 00:23:47,134 --> 00:23:48,468 That was the beginning. 544 00:23:48,510 --> 00:23:52,013 Did your husband know about this relationship with Mark? 545 00:23:52,055 --> 00:23:55,308 He knew we were spending a lot of time together. 546 00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:58,395 He knew Mark and I were close. 547 00:23:58,437 --> 00:24:00,772 He asked me to break it off with him. 548 00:24:00,814 --> 00:24:03,400 Is that why you stopped seeing each other? 549 00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:08,155 My relationship with Mark was so intense. 550 00:24:08,196 --> 00:24:12,492 At a certain point, I felt I was betraying Greg. 551 00:24:12,534 --> 00:24:16,371 So I told Mark I wanted to try and get my marriage back. 552 00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:17,622 What did he say? 553 00:24:17,664 --> 00:24:19,624 He said he was in love with me. 554 00:24:19,666 --> 00:24:24,588 But for Courtney's sake and for mine.. 555 00:24:24,629 --> 00:24:27,757 He hoped that Greg and I could work things through. 556 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,969 I really thought he was okay with it. 557 00:24:31,011 --> 00:24:33,054 Do you believe Mark riggs confronted 558 00:24:33,096 --> 00:24:34,347 your husband that night? 559 00:24:34,389 --> 00:24:37,976 I think when I rejected him, Mark sought Greg out 560 00:24:38,018 --> 00:24:40,520 and attacked him and put our daughter in danger 561 00:24:40,562 --> 00:24:41,688 and I feel responsible. 562 00:24:41,730 --> 00:24:44,232 If I hadn't spent so much time with Mark 563 00:24:44,274 --> 00:24:47,736 Mark never touched that crowbar, Sarah. 564 00:24:47,777 --> 00:24:50,238 Your husband is lying to you. 565 00:24:53,241 --> 00:24:55,911 We know what your client and Mark riggs were really 566 00:24:55,952 --> 00:24:58,038 fighting about that night. Sarah Paulson. 567 00:24:58,079 --> 00:25:01,374 Ah, yes, Mark riggs, Sarah Paulson's spurned suitor. 568 00:25:01,416 --> 00:25:02,250 Spurned suitor? 569 00:25:02,292 --> 00:25:04,294 Did you pick up a few new phrases 570 00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:05,730 from one of professor Paulson's classes? 571 00:25:05,754 --> 00:25:08,381 Mark riggs was in love with Sarah but she wasn't. 572 00:25:08,423 --> 00:25:12,427 I beg to differ, I talked to her, it's obvious how she felt. 573 00:25:12,469 --> 00:25:13,762 And she told you what? 574 00:25:13,803 --> 00:25:15,931 - They were just friends. - Exactly. 575 00:25:15,972 --> 00:25:18,308 Riggs fell in love with her. It was unrequited. 576 00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:19,976 He attacked my client in a rage. 577 00:25:20,018 --> 00:25:22,020 My client knew nothing of riggs' obsession 578 00:25:22,062 --> 00:25:23,271 until riggs attacked him. 579 00:25:23,313 --> 00:25:25,732 He knew they were having some kind of relationship. 580 00:25:25,774 --> 00:25:27,317 He asked Sarah not to continue it. 581 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,445 That would convince a jury he was aware of their affair. 582 00:25:30,487 --> 00:25:31,446 You don't believe that. 583 00:25:31,488 --> 00:25:33,156 It doesn't matter what I believe. 584 00:25:33,198 --> 00:25:34,658 It matters what Greg Paulson believed 585 00:25:34,699 --> 00:25:36,576 and if he believed about his wife's affair 586 00:25:36,618 --> 00:25:39,120 with riggs, it explains why he killed him that night. 587 00:25:39,162 --> 00:25:41,414 What really matters is what the jury believes. 588 00:25:41,456 --> 00:25:44,918 We think they'll believe us, not you. 589 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,176 Mr. Paulson told the police he was attacked 590 00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:55,971 by a stranger with a crowbar. 591 00:25:56,012 --> 00:25:57,264 This is a lie. 592 00:25:57,305 --> 00:26:00,976 In fact, he knew the victim Mark riggs quite intimately. 593 00:26:01,017 --> 00:26:03,979 Mr. Riggs had counseled him over the death of his son 594 00:26:04,020 --> 00:26:06,690 and then Mr. Riggs counseled Sarah Paulson. 595 00:26:06,731 --> 00:26:09,818 The evidence will show that Greg Paulson believed 596 00:26:09,859 --> 00:26:12,737 Mark riggs was having an affair with his wife. 597 00:26:12,779 --> 00:26:16,616 Mark riggs did not attack Greg Paulson with that crowbar. 598 00:26:16,658 --> 00:26:18,034 It was the other way around. 599 00:26:18,076 --> 00:26:24,082 What Greg Paulson did to riggs that night was not self-defense. 600 00:26:24,124 --> 00:26:26,585 It was murder. 601 00:26:26,626 --> 00:26:30,171 This case is about one thing whether Greg Paulson 602 00:26:30,213 --> 00:26:32,549 was legally justified in defending himself 603 00:26:32,591 --> 00:26:36,553 and his daughter from Mr. Riggs' attack. 604 00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:39,556 Mr. Paulson wasn't jealous of a love affair between Mark riggs 605 00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:42,809 and Sarah Paulson because there wasn't one. 606 00:26:42,851 --> 00:26:44,811 Mark riggs loved Sarah Paulson 607 00:26:44,853 --> 00:26:47,939 but she did not love him back, not in that way. 608 00:26:47,981 --> 00:26:49,524 This isn't about a jealous husband. 609 00:26:49,566 --> 00:26:51,860 It was Mark riggs who was jealous 610 00:26:51,901 --> 00:26:54,821 jealous of the paulsons' marriage, resentful 611 00:26:54,863 --> 00:26:57,365 that a woman he had cared about and had helped 612 00:26:57,407 --> 00:27:00,368 and had fallen in love with was not gonna leave 613 00:27:00,410 --> 00:27:01,911 her husband for him. 614 00:27:01,953 --> 00:27:04,539 You will hear from Sarah Paulson 615 00:27:04,581 --> 00:27:06,416 who'll tell you about the exact nature 616 00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:08,668 of her relationship with Mark riggs. 617 00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:10,879 You'll hear from an expert witness 618 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,674 who will shed light on Greg Paulson's state of mind 619 00:27:14,716 --> 00:27:17,802 the night Mark riggs attacked him. 620 00:27:18,970 --> 00:27:20,722 And you'll hear from the one person 621 00:27:20,764 --> 00:27:23,600 who knows exactly what happened that night. 622 00:27:23,642 --> 00:27:25,477 Greg Paulson will tell you himself 623 00:27:25,518 --> 00:27:29,481 the fear he felt when Mark riggs took that crowbar 624 00:27:29,522 --> 00:27:30,815 and smashed that window. 625 00:27:30,857 --> 00:27:33,360 Spraying glass on his three-year-old daughter. 626 00:27:33,401 --> 00:27:36,237 The question in this case is not why Greg Paulson 627 00:27:36,279 --> 00:27:38,031 responded as he did that night. 628 00:27:38,073 --> 00:27:42,911 It is how we would judge a father who did not? 629 00:27:48,083 --> 00:27:50,877 (Bosco) 'What did your husband tell you when he called you' 630 00:27:50,919 --> 00:27:53,922 - 'the night of the incident?' - He said Mark had attacked him. 631 00:27:53,963 --> 00:27:55,965 - Did he say why? - He wanted me.. 632 00:27:56,007 --> 00:27:58,051 To leave my husband. That's what Greg said. 633 00:27:58,093 --> 00:28:00,762 When did you end your friendship with Mr. Riggs? 634 00:28:00,804 --> 00:28:02,806 A few days before he attacked Greg. 635 00:28:02,847 --> 00:28:04,391 So you broke off your relationship 636 00:28:04,432 --> 00:28:06,518 with Mr. Riggs, and a few days later 637 00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:07,852 he attacked your husband? 638 00:28:07,894 --> 00:28:09,562 Objection. 639 00:28:09,604 --> 00:28:11,815 Sustained. 640 00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:19,406 After your son died, Mark riggs counseled your husband. 641 00:28:19,447 --> 00:28:20,240 Briefly. 642 00:28:20,281 --> 00:28:22,075 He went to a few meetings 643 00:28:22,117 --> 00:28:24,994 but, um, he wasn't interested in Mark's help. 644 00:28:25,036 --> 00:28:26,329 But you were. 645 00:28:26,371 --> 00:28:28,957 Mark helped me a lot. 646 00:28:28,998 --> 00:28:32,419 Did the two of you fall in love? 647 00:28:32,460 --> 00:28:33,211 Yes. 648 00:28:33,253 --> 00:28:35,296 Did you have an affair? 649 00:28:35,338 --> 00:28:36,756 It wasn't an affair. 650 00:28:36,798 --> 00:28:38,550 We became very close friends. 651 00:28:38,591 --> 00:28:39,801 Very close friends. 652 00:28:39,843 --> 00:28:43,680 Which meant you spent a lot of time together? 653 00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:44,848 Um, I don't know. 654 00:28:44,889 --> 00:28:47,767 'How many times a week did you see Mr. Riggs?' 655 00:28:47,809 --> 00:28:48,810 three or four. 656 00:28:48,852 --> 00:28:51,563 How often did you speak to him on the phone? 657 00:28:51,604 --> 00:28:53,314 - Every day. - Every day? 658 00:28:53,356 --> 00:28:55,275 Yes. 659 00:28:55,316 --> 00:28:59,863 Did you ever visit your son's gravesite with Mr. Riggs? 660 00:28:59,904 --> 00:29:00,739 Yes. 661 00:29:00,780 --> 00:29:01,906 Every week, in fact. 662 00:29:01,948 --> 00:29:06,244 You met him in coffee shops, bars, at his apartment 663 00:29:06,286 --> 00:29:07,787 and all behind your husband's back. 664 00:29:07,829 --> 00:29:09,164 (Sarah) 'I needed a friend.' 665 00:29:09,205 --> 00:29:13,126 Mark helped me grieve, but that's all it was. 666 00:29:13,168 --> 00:29:14,502 It wasn't an affair. 667 00:29:14,544 --> 00:29:17,964 Do you think it may have been construed as an affair? 668 00:29:18,006 --> 00:29:20,008 That's what you seem to have done. 669 00:29:20,049 --> 00:29:21,134 What about your husband? 670 00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:23,887 'Wouldn't it have looked like an affair to him?' 671 00:29:23,928 --> 00:29:24,679 no. 672 00:29:24,721 --> 00:29:28,308 Well, then, why keep it a secret? 673 00:29:28,349 --> 00:29:30,810 And when your husband did find out you'd been 674 00:29:30,852 --> 00:29:32,812 spending so much time with Mr. Riggs? 675 00:29:32,854 --> 00:29:36,691 When he found out, he said he'd rather I didn't. 676 00:29:36,733 --> 00:29:40,570 He specifically asked you not to see Mark riggs anymore? 677 00:29:40,612 --> 00:29:41,488 Yes. 678 00:29:41,529 --> 00:29:43,782 - And did you do as he asked? - Yes. 679 00:29:43,823 --> 00:29:45,617 And when you ended the relationship with 680 00:29:45,658 --> 00:29:47,368 Mark riggs, what was his reaction? 681 00:29:47,410 --> 00:29:49,162 He was disappointed. 682 00:29:49,204 --> 00:29:51,289 He said he was in love with me. 683 00:29:51,331 --> 00:29:53,917 Sarah, did he seem angry? 684 00:29:53,958 --> 00:29:57,003 - No. - What did he say? 685 00:30:00,548 --> 00:30:04,552 He said he hoped I could save my marriage. 686 00:30:05,345 --> 00:30:07,806 No further questions. 687 00:30:12,393 --> 00:30:14,395 Dr. Eaton, what did you hope to glean 688 00:30:14,437 --> 00:30:17,106 from your interview with professor Paulson? 689 00:30:17,148 --> 00:30:19,192 An understanding of his cognitive abilities 690 00:30:19,234 --> 00:30:21,653 and of his personal history as they might relate 691 00:30:21,694 --> 00:30:24,197 to the night of his conflict with Mr. Riggs. 692 00:30:24,239 --> 00:30:25,698 And what did you conclude? 693 00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:26,866 That there was an aspect 694 00:30:26,908 --> 00:30:29,744 of his personal history that very well may have induced 695 00:30:29,786 --> 00:30:31,788 in him a reasonable fear for his life 696 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:33,373 'and for the life of his child.' 697 00:30:33,414 --> 00:30:36,084 and what aspect of his past are you referring to? 698 00:30:36,125 --> 00:30:39,504 'The death of his son a little more than a year ago.' 699 00:30:39,546 --> 00:30:40,755 objection. Relevance. 700 00:30:40,797 --> 00:30:42,191 This experience is absolutely relevant 701 00:30:42,215 --> 00:30:44,384 to Mr. Paulson's claim of self-defense. 702 00:30:44,425 --> 00:30:46,386 It framed his perception of the event 703 00:30:46,427 --> 00:30:47,470 and what was happening. 704 00:30:47,512 --> 00:30:48,596 Sidebar, your honor. 705 00:30:48,638 --> 00:30:51,432 I think chambers instead. 706 00:30:52,183 --> 00:30:53,476 What're you pulling, Mr. Bosco? 707 00:30:53,518 --> 00:30:55,979 Marching a dead child in front of my jury. 708 00:30:56,020 --> 00:30:57,605 That's not my intention, your honor. 709 00:30:57,647 --> 00:30:58,982 'What is your intention?' 710 00:30:59,023 --> 00:31:00,859 to establish Mr. Paulson's state of mind. 711 00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:03,069 How does the child's death do that? 712 00:31:03,111 --> 00:31:04,946 Mr. Paulson witnessed his son's death. 713 00:31:04,988 --> 00:31:07,240 When Mr. Riggs drove that crowbar into the window 714 00:31:07,282 --> 00:31:09,617 spraying glass on Mr. Paulson's three-year-old daughter 715 00:31:09,659 --> 00:31:11,703 his experience shaped his perception of that act 716 00:31:11,744 --> 00:31:13,371 as a threat to his daughter's life. 717 00:31:13,413 --> 00:31:15,498 The details of Andrew Paulson's death are irrelevant. 718 00:31:15,540 --> 00:31:17,792 Allowing Mr. Bosco to garnish his defense with them 719 00:31:17,834 --> 00:31:20,670 would be improper, naked appeal for jury sympathy. 720 00:31:20,712 --> 00:31:22,005 Brand vs. State of Indiana. 721 00:31:22,046 --> 00:31:23,983 A self-defense case where the court ruled admissible 722 00:31:24,007 --> 00:31:26,426 testimony about prior events that formed the basis 723 00:31:26,467 --> 00:31:27,635 of the defendant's fear. 724 00:31:27,677 --> 00:31:29,679 In brand, those events were things the defendant 725 00:31:29,721 --> 00:31:32,056 knew about the victim's past, not events completely 726 00:31:32,098 --> 00:31:33,516 unconnected to the victim. 727 00:31:33,558 --> 00:31:35,870 They were admitted to establish the defendant's perception. 728 00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:38,980 That's all that matters here. 729 00:31:39,022 --> 00:31:42,191 If Mr. Paulson is still taking the stand 730 00:31:42,233 --> 00:31:43,651 Mr. Bosco, I agree with you 731 00:31:43,693 --> 00:31:45,904 but I will not allow the jury to hear 732 00:31:45,945 --> 00:31:48,573 theoretical testimony without hearing about 733 00:31:48,615 --> 00:31:49,991 those experiences directly. 734 00:31:50,033 --> 00:31:53,202 He still intends to testify, your honor. 735 00:31:53,244 --> 00:31:56,664 Then I will allow the jury to hear about his son's death 736 00:31:56,706 --> 00:31:59,125 solely as it relates to his state of mind 737 00:31:59,167 --> 00:32:01,628 at the time of the fight. 738 00:32:06,507 --> 00:32:07,717 Lathrop bought that? 739 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,803 Guess he figures it's better than being reversed on appeal. 740 00:32:10,845 --> 00:32:12,639 It's clearly a bid for jury sympathy. 741 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,724 The question is, how to counter it? 742 00:32:14,766 --> 00:32:17,018 I'm not sure we do. Maybe we ignore it. 743 00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:20,271 Let the jury see it for the cynical tactic that it is 744 00:32:20,313 --> 00:32:21,790 and hammer Paulson with the fingerprints 745 00:32:21,814 --> 00:32:23,983 the witnesses, the affair, his own admissions 746 00:32:24,025 --> 00:32:25,109 and inconsistencies. 747 00:32:25,151 --> 00:32:27,946 We have to go right at him. Who knows how 748 00:32:27,987 --> 00:32:30,114 'he'll twist the story to convince the jury?' 749 00:32:30,156 --> 00:32:31,756 Maureen, he's lied about everything else. 750 00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:33,534 He's probably going to lie about that. 751 00:32:33,576 --> 00:32:35,912 I've read the police report. I'm unsure of relevance. 752 00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:38,206 I'm going to show it to ed and ray. 753 00:32:38,247 --> 00:32:39,832 Have them go over to the paulsons 754 00:32:39,874 --> 00:32:42,085 and walk through the accident, talk to the witnesses. 755 00:32:42,126 --> 00:32:45,546 I'm not letting Paulson use his son's death like this. 756 00:32:49,092 --> 00:32:51,386 [Dog barking] 757 00:32:51,427 --> 00:32:52,470 You sure? 758 00:32:52,512 --> 00:32:56,182 Never forget it. That poor little boy. 759 00:32:56,224 --> 00:32:57,517 And Mr. Paulson? 760 00:32:57,558 --> 00:32:58,518 I didn't see him. 761 00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:00,687 - He wasn't there? - Not then. 762 00:33:00,728 --> 00:33:03,064 A few minutes later, out in the street 763 00:33:03,106 --> 00:33:05,149 we were all there. 764 00:33:05,191 --> 00:33:07,151 Driver of the car was crying. 765 00:33:07,193 --> 00:33:11,364 Everybody was calling 911. Just waiting on an ambulance. 766 00:33:11,406 --> 00:33:14,033 Alright. Thanks, ma'am. 767 00:33:15,159 --> 00:33:17,328 'If she was standing there didn't see him' 768 00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:19,038 on the front lawn, where was he? 769 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,708 Next door neighbor also says she didn't see him 770 00:33:21,749 --> 00:33:24,085 out in the yard. 771 00:33:24,127 --> 00:33:26,921 It's not much, but it could be somethin'. 772 00:33:26,963 --> 00:33:29,257 Paulson told the patrol officer on the scene 773 00:33:29,298 --> 00:33:30,675 he was on the front lawn. 774 00:33:30,717 --> 00:33:32,135 Saw Andrew running into the street. 775 00:33:32,176 --> 00:33:34,679 But neither of the witnesses saw Paulson on the lawn 776 00:33:34,721 --> 00:33:37,390 and both had a clear view of the accident. 777 00:33:37,432 --> 00:33:38,516 So he's lying? 778 00:33:38,558 --> 00:33:40,601 - Of course he's lying. - Then where was he? 779 00:33:40,643 --> 00:33:42,395 Let's assume that Paulson made a mistake 780 00:33:42,437 --> 00:33:44,480 that day and then lied to the police. 781 00:33:44,522 --> 00:33:45,857 'If he did, it's perceivable ' 782 00:33:45,898 --> 00:33:47,859 he couldn't tell his wife the truth. 783 00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:51,112 So how do we prove it unless he told someone the truth? 784 00:33:51,154 --> 00:33:53,614 Maybe he told riggs at the hospital 785 00:33:53,656 --> 00:33:55,241 immediately after Andrew's death. 786 00:33:55,283 --> 00:33:58,870 Would riggs have told anyone? His ex-wife, maybe? 787 00:33:58,911 --> 00:34:01,748 Jesse Abrams, the grief counselor at St. Stevens. 788 00:34:01,789 --> 00:34:04,959 But he didn't remember Paulson. He didn't recognize his picture. 789 00:34:05,001 --> 00:34:06,753 He wouldn't have to remember Paulson 790 00:34:06,794 --> 00:34:10,715 he just has to remember the story. 791 00:34:10,757 --> 00:34:12,008 I can't reveal names. 792 00:34:12,050 --> 00:34:14,677 But, tell me what you know. I'll see what I remember. 793 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,764 Fair enough. About a year ago, a man's playing hide-and-seek 794 00:34:17,805 --> 00:34:19,390 on his front lawn with his son. 795 00:34:19,432 --> 00:34:22,393 Boy runs into the street, father says he watched him 796 00:34:22,435 --> 00:34:23,770 get hit by the car. 797 00:34:23,811 --> 00:34:26,022 Happened out in shadyside, right? 798 00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:27,190 Yeah. 799 00:34:27,231 --> 00:34:29,317 I remember Mark telling me that story. 800 00:34:29,358 --> 00:34:30,651 Do you remember the details? 801 00:34:30,693 --> 00:34:33,237 Of the hide-and-seek story? No. 802 00:34:33,279 --> 00:34:34,447 'Cause that wasn't the story. 803 00:34:34,489 --> 00:34:36,574 What do you mean, "that wasn't the story"? 804 00:34:36,616 --> 00:34:38,451 That was the lie the father told people. 805 00:34:38,493 --> 00:34:41,913 He told Mark the truth, that's why he talked to me about it. 806 00:34:41,954 --> 00:34:46,250 People lie to each other about a lot things when a child dies. 807 00:34:55,593 --> 00:34:57,637 'You grabbed the crowbar from Mark riggs.' 808 00:34:57,678 --> 00:34:58,596 I struck him. 809 00:34:58,638 --> 00:34:59,889 - 'How many times?' - Twice. 810 00:34:59,931 --> 00:35:02,391 I hit him the first time, he kept coming. 811 00:35:02,433 --> 00:35:05,061 I hit him again, he went down. 812 00:35:05,103 --> 00:35:08,064 Why did Mark riggs attack you that night? 813 00:35:08,106 --> 00:35:10,358 He said he was in love with my wife. 814 00:35:10,399 --> 00:35:13,528 (Bosco) 'So, he blocked the road and confronted you.' 815 00:35:13,569 --> 00:35:14,445 yes. 816 00:35:14,487 --> 00:35:15,988 What did you think was happening? 817 00:35:16,030 --> 00:35:18,116 I was scared. I knew he was angry. 818 00:35:18,157 --> 00:35:20,326 I-I thought he was stalking me. 819 00:35:20,368 --> 00:35:21,536 'You felt threatened.' 820 00:35:21,577 --> 00:35:22,995 very. We argued. 821 00:35:23,037 --> 00:35:25,456 He smashed the window of my car. 822 00:35:25,498 --> 00:35:26,833 My daughter was inches away. 823 00:35:26,874 --> 00:35:29,544 - 'How did you react to that?' - 'She was terrified.' 824 00:35:29,585 --> 00:35:31,420 'i needed to protect her.' 825 00:35:32,630 --> 00:35:36,259 I kept having an image of Andrew 826 00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:38,594 running into the street. 827 00:35:38,636 --> 00:35:41,389 Right before he was.. 828 00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:43,266 Struck by a car. 829 00:35:43,307 --> 00:35:47,228 And how is Andrew relevant to what we're discussing today? 830 00:35:47,270 --> 00:35:49,355 He was killed by a car last year 831 00:35:49,397 --> 00:35:50,982 when he was three years old. 832 00:35:51,023 --> 00:35:52,150 How did that happen? 833 00:35:52,191 --> 00:35:56,779 We were playing hide-and-seek in the front yard. 834 00:35:56,821 --> 00:35:59,532 His turn to hide. 835 00:35:59,574 --> 00:36:02,451 I closed my eyes not ten seconds. 836 00:36:02,493 --> 00:36:08,499 And then when I opened them, he was running into the street. 837 00:36:08,541 --> 00:36:12,211 And a car was coming right at him. 838 00:36:14,130 --> 00:36:16,716 I saw it hit him. 839 00:36:16,757 --> 00:36:18,259 I watched my son die. 840 00:36:18,301 --> 00:36:20,469 (Bosco) 'Why did you think of this tragedy' 841 00:36:20,511 --> 00:36:23,431 'when Mark riggs smashed the window of your car?' 842 00:36:23,472 --> 00:36:25,016 simple. 843 00:36:25,057 --> 00:36:28,561 I thought I was about to lose another child. 844 00:36:36,485 --> 00:36:41,574 Mr. Paulson, you saw the car hit your son. Is that right? 845 00:36:41,616 --> 00:36:42,450 Yes. 846 00:36:42,491 --> 00:36:44,327 Are you familiar with the police report? 847 00:36:44,368 --> 00:36:48,497 I know there is one. I haven't seen it. 848 00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:50,082 "We were playing hide-and-seek." 849 00:36:50,124 --> 00:36:52,293 "I had my eyes closed when I heard 850 00:36:52,335 --> 00:36:54,462 "the screech of the car's brakes. 851 00:36:54,503 --> 00:36:58,257 "I opened my eyes and saw the car hit Andrew." 852 00:36:58,299 --> 00:37:00,718 He wrote it down. Guess I said it. 853 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,595 Where were you playing hide-and-seek? 854 00:37:02,637 --> 00:37:03,930 The front lawn. 855 00:37:03,971 --> 00:37:06,891 Is your front lawn visible from your neighbor's property? 856 00:37:06,933 --> 00:37:07,934 Yes. 857 00:37:07,975 --> 00:37:09,936 Two of your neighbors witnessed the accident 858 00:37:09,977 --> 00:37:11,229 that killed your son. 859 00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:13,814 They both told the police, they didn't see you 860 00:37:13,856 --> 00:37:16,025 on your lawn that day. 861 00:37:16,067 --> 00:37:17,735 I'm not sure I get your point. 862 00:37:17,777 --> 00:37:21,364 Mr. Paulson, where were you when Andrew was hit? 863 00:37:21,405 --> 00:37:23,616 - On the front lawn. - No, you weren't. 864 00:37:23,658 --> 00:37:26,077 And Mark riggs knew it. He knew your secret. 865 00:37:26,118 --> 00:37:28,079 Isn't that why he confronted you that night? 866 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:29,848 'Objection, your honor, facts not in evidence' 867 00:37:29,872 --> 00:37:32,458 badgering the witness, I could go on and on. 868 00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:34,210 No need, Mr. Bosco, sustained. 869 00:37:34,252 --> 00:37:37,713 Mr. Paulson, where were you when your son was killed? 870 00:37:37,755 --> 00:37:40,466 - 'Asked and answered.' - Sustained. 871 00:37:40,508 --> 00:37:43,177 You told Mark riggs, you were on the phone. 872 00:37:43,219 --> 00:37:44,303 I never told riggs that. 873 00:37:44,345 --> 00:37:46,973 Jesse Abrams will testify that you did. 874 00:37:47,014 --> 00:37:49,850 We went back and pulled your phone records from that day. 875 00:37:49,892 --> 00:37:52,395 You were on the phone at the exact moment 876 00:37:52,436 --> 00:37:55,314 your son was hit by that car. 877 00:37:58,609 --> 00:38:00,361 I.. 878 00:38:01,862 --> 00:38:03,906 I thought it might be Sarah. 879 00:38:03,948 --> 00:38:07,535 So I ran inside to grab the phone. 880 00:38:07,576 --> 00:38:09,036 I-I wasn't gone a minute. 881 00:38:09,078 --> 00:38:11,872 Is that when you heard the screech of the brakes? 882 00:38:11,914 --> 00:38:14,417 From inside your house? 883 00:38:16,335 --> 00:38:17,378 Yes. 884 00:38:17,420 --> 00:38:20,840 You couldn't tell your wife the truth, could you? 885 00:38:20,881 --> 00:38:23,676 But Mark riggs was going to. 886 00:38:37,315 --> 00:38:39,108 Voluntary manslaughter, ten years. 887 00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:41,277 - Mitigation? - That deal disappeared. 888 00:38:41,319 --> 00:38:43,738 Paul, he does all ten. 889 00:38:46,407 --> 00:38:47,950 Do you have kids? 890 00:38:47,992 --> 00:38:49,535 One, daughter. 891 00:38:49,577 --> 00:38:50,619 We have three. 892 00:38:50,661 --> 00:38:53,247 You ever get distracted, maybe lose sight of her 893 00:38:53,289 --> 00:38:54,498 for a few seconds? 894 00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:56,083 Of course. 895 00:38:56,959 --> 00:39:00,129 What happened to him could happen to any of us. 896 00:39:00,171 --> 00:39:04,383 Yeah. But how he reacted to it.. 897 00:39:04,425 --> 00:39:06,635 That was a choice. 898 00:39:06,677 --> 00:39:08,929 Yeah. 899 00:39:11,390 --> 00:39:14,393 Riggs asked me to tell Sarah the truth 900 00:39:14,435 --> 00:39:16,812 about Andrew's death. 901 00:39:16,854 --> 00:39:20,191 He said he loved Sarah 902 00:39:20,232 --> 00:39:22,777 and she deserved to know. 903 00:39:22,818 --> 00:39:26,113 So she could go forward with her life 904 00:39:26,155 --> 00:39:29,116 knowing the truth. 905 00:39:29,158 --> 00:39:31,660 That's why he confronted me that night. 906 00:39:31,702 --> 00:39:34,205 To give me an ultimatum. 907 00:39:35,081 --> 00:39:39,043 Either I tell Sarah the truth or.. 908 00:39:39,085 --> 00:39:41,337 He would. 909 00:39:42,546 --> 00:39:45,091 I knew I couldn't. 910 00:39:45,132 --> 00:39:49,011 I was afraid that she would never forgive me. 911 00:39:49,053 --> 00:39:54,850 I was afraid that she would leave me for him. 912 00:39:54,892 --> 00:39:58,396 I grabbed the crowbar from his truck and hit him. 913 00:39:58,437 --> 00:40:03,401 I took Courtney out of the car and broke the window. 914 00:40:03,442 --> 00:40:06,862 To make it look like he had attacked us. 915 00:40:14,620 --> 00:40:17,164 I'm so sorry. 916 00:40:17,206 --> 00:40:20,042 [Dramatic music] 917 00:40:33,264 --> 00:40:35,850 My reply to the bishop brief. 918 00:40:35,891 --> 00:40:37,476 You still want to read it? 919 00:40:37,518 --> 00:40:41,313 That was our deal, right? Every painful detail. 920 00:40:43,482 --> 00:40:46,569 The gist of his appeal he's claiming the breathalyzer 921 00:40:46,610 --> 00:40:49,572 hadn't be calibrated in over six months 922 00:40:49,613 --> 00:40:52,032 which violates the statute. 923 00:40:52,074 --> 00:40:53,409 Do we know if that's true? 924 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:55,744 Police department's having a hard time tracking down 925 00:40:55,786 --> 00:40:57,371 the certificate to prove otherwise. 926 00:40:57,413 --> 00:40:59,790 If they can't find it, is bishop's conviction 927 00:40:59,832 --> 00:41:01,167 automatically overturned? 928 00:41:01,208 --> 00:41:03,961 Not automatic, but, likely. 929 00:41:04,003 --> 00:41:06,922 Ed's still chasing the certificate. 930 00:41:06,964 --> 00:41:09,258 You mind if I read this like a lawyer? 931 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:11,385 Just keep in mind I wrote it like one. 932 00:41:11,427 --> 00:41:15,723 It may be hard to see Jack's death reduced to legalese. 933 00:41:15,764 --> 00:41:17,516 I'll try. 934 00:41:17,558 --> 00:41:20,352 'How'd the sentencing go?' 935 00:41:20,394 --> 00:41:22,480 lathrop ignored our recommendation 936 00:41:22,521 --> 00:41:25,357 and gave him six years instead of ten. 937 00:41:25,399 --> 00:41:26,358 Lathrop doesn't do that. 938 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,068 Sarah Paulson asked him to show mercy 939 00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:30,404 convinced him her husband was a good person 940 00:41:30,446 --> 00:41:31,530 before their son died. 941 00:41:31,572 --> 00:41:33,240 You're unhappy with the sentencing. 942 00:41:33,282 --> 00:41:34,992 Mark riggs was a good person, too. 943 00:41:35,034 --> 00:41:38,329 Before his child died and when he was killed. 944 00:41:38,370 --> 00:41:42,625 Like Jack. 945 00:41:42,666 --> 00:41:44,710 It's hard for judges and juries. 946 00:41:44,752 --> 00:41:47,171 They see the living defendant in front of them 947 00:41:47,213 --> 00:41:51,467 and somebody like Paulson who's a good man, basically. 948 00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:53,802 Wife, family. 949 00:41:53,844 --> 00:41:56,764 They have a hard time remembering the victim 950 00:41:56,805 --> 00:41:59,308 who's dead and buried. 951 00:42:01,101 --> 00:42:04,271 I remember. 952 00:42:04,313 --> 00:42:06,524 I know. 73937

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