Original subtitles

Hello everyone! This is the commentary on Dog Bite Dog DVD.

I'm William, the supervisor of this DVD

director, please... I'm Cheang Poi-Soi, the director.

I'm Sam Leung Tak-Sum, the producer of the movie.

There's something special this time.

We invite some movie fans to join us.

Maybe every one can introduce yourself.

I'm Ah Zip. I'm FayeCat.

I'm Ryan. I'm LittleSam.

The director will give some explanations about the movie.

In fact the pictures we are seeing in this scene

are very special, because it was shooted by 8mm film.

I mean the scene we saw just now.

to shoot something about their daily life.

The kids in the dumping ground are working over there.

It isn't kind of stock footage you bought, is it?

No, we did it by ourselves.

Before making this movie,

did you see...

Cause I'm remaking an old movie called

"City War"

in which there's a scene similar to this. Really?

Only a little, not so much.

"City War"... Chow Yun-Fat? Yes.

In that movie, Tsui Siu-Keung also hired some killers

He also opened the lid. Something similar.

Maybe I saw it when I was young. But now I forgot it.

Maybe this kind of scene is too classic.

Killers from another country... Hiding in a cabin.

Do you guys have any questions?

Is there anything you're deeply impressed, Sam?

For me, I'm impressed by the whole movie.

Is this the first day of shooting? Or...

It's in the earlier stage, the second day.

The second day when we began to shoot.

At that time, Edison and I used to comprehend...

not about the movie,

but the communication between us.

I get used to focusing on the actor's performance while shooting

In this scene about eating the congee

He did what we agreed to do and in fact, his performance is quite a surprise to me.

In this scene

I asked him to look at the camera

I didn't know why I wanted him to do so

It was just kind of my consciousness.

Edison's eager to be understood.

He didn't agree with me on this.

He would ask me why

I could not explain to me

I thought it was because of the role

and the right situation.

Why did you choose Edison for this character?

He's so handsome and gentle.

but this character is so disgusting and miserable.

I focus on one idea.

I think I need an actor who doesn't look like a Hongkongese

I think Edison wanna tell everybody that I'm a HongKongese.

But the fact is Hong Kong people don't recognize him as a local actor

We always regard him as a foreigner.

This guy secludes himself from Hong Kong people in some senses.

I think the contrast between Edison and Sam Lee is very sharp.

Cause we're always impressed by Edison's pretty boy image.

Though the man he was in this movie played hard for making a living.

we can still find something good about him

especially from his relationship with the heroine at the final part.

This is

somewhat similar to the actor's character

And Sam Lee, is totally different.

Sam Lee with a somewhat disagreeable attitude y'know, that's typical of him

The cop he acted

has the similar character with himself.

I found it interesting the way you choose your actors

Many people are saying that the producer and I are so brave

dare to give them these characters.

In fact I'm discovering the actor's particularity.

Would they be very interested in the role before shooting,

but changed their mind

when required to go to the dumping ground,

and found out that it was so disgusting.

No. Absolutely not?

There seems to be a misunderstanding by many people

Edison is a handsome young man,

a polite boy from a rich family

then you think he won't do it.

I think he's very professional.

I'm not meant to apple-polish him.

He was eager to do a good job.

Are you satisfied with both their performance?

Of course I am.

But I won't say they're qualified for The Best Actor award.

They need more practice,

according to their performances at this stage.

But they are much better than before.

With some exaggeration, I can say they upgraded themselves by this movie.

They can try something they never do

in other movies or with other directors.

which reaches a higher level.

In the scene we saw just now, Edison tied the money to his body.

I wonder why there's such an arrangement.

The reason why he came to HK is important.

What did he come for?

We can see that's not a big amount of money at all.

Usually people would put it into the pocket.

In order to show people that he is a non-HongKongese,

I thought he should do something different from us.

He tied the most important thing to his body,

which shows it's as important as his body.

When I saw this, I recall a movie

City on Fire directed by Ringo Lam.

Jeff Ko, when he was an undercover

he wanna eavesdrop...,

the way he tied the recorder... its the same

I'm not sure whether Cheang Poi-Soi... they're exactly the same,

even the facial expression.

Sure. It's the movie I'm deeply impressed. Really?

When shooting I wonder if you would...

I don't think the audience can find it out.

But when shooting, I wonder whether you try to

show your respect to your master through this scene.

The scene before entering the restaurant has been cut.

but it will appear in the DVD 2-disc edition,

The driver was gesturing and handing over the gun to Edison

Yeah, just for explaining that

the Cantonese-spoken driver told Edison that he would come to pick him up

Is there any particular reason for its being cut?

When I wrote the play, I wanna make it complete

but later on I didn't wanna let the audience know what'll happen next so soon

Therefore I deleted that scene.

Up to this moment, Edsion didn't even say a word. Yup.

Do you think the audience will easily got bored in this case?

Or you have to have attractive picture in order to draw their attention.

We should really put much work on the plot

For example, when he came to the restaurant.

if it is a simple plot,

the target would have appeared right away, he could fire at him at once.

We wanted to illustrate many things about Edison.

He went abroad. His feeling on food,

and his desire to food

can be showed in the restaurant. So we had this arrangement.

We wanna tell the audience what kind of person he is.

In fact I don't care about the lack of dialogue in the movie.

I focus much on the rationality for the role.

We weren't meant to restrict Edison from speaking in the first 15 min of the movie

We didn't have this kind of intention.

When I wrote the play, I felt nothing wrong at all

We can see that Edison's primitive behaviour.

yeah.

In fact it was made on the first day of shooting,

everybody was trying to adapt to the role.

When I saw his expression when eating,

I thought he'd made it.

The shot we saw Edison walked into the restaurant took the most amount of takes in this scene.

Cause I thought the way he walked would be very important

people from different places should walk in different manners

But I felt sorry for that day.

We were scolded by the producer because we couldn't finish our work.

So we gotta come back again the next day to finish it.

Yeah, we made it again the next day.

We could finish this one, but not the next one.

Any questions from you guys?

I wonder, for the old man,

I mean the dead and her husband,

he is a judger.

Was there any special setting for these characters?

No, nothing really special.

In fact.. why... he's judger

His wife was an elegant lady, too.

I want to tell people that...

Not only the lower class suffers afflictions.

No matter how high the class you belong to... it's human nature.

Edison spoke... Cambodian Cambodian

was it difficult to memorize the dialogues?

A little bit.

I didn't ask him. But he seemed to be okay.

In fact we had a...

Maybe you didn't know even he make mistakes.

No, no . I of course don't know Cambodian. But we had an interpreter on site.

an Cambodian interpreter.

It is very difficult to employ an Cambodian interpreter because there are only 3 in HK.

We got ours from Cambodian embassy.

Yeah, quite demanding. But he was okay.

The interpreter would teach him in advance on site every time before shooting.

He would also listen to him when shooting to make sure he was right.

Even in Thailand

There were not so much dialogues at all.

Cause we were meant to made the role kinda close-lipped.

We tried not to arouse that kind of people's feeling

Cause I was afraid that

as soon as Edison spoke out,

everybody remembered he's Chan Kwoon-Hei.

That wasn't what we wanted. You're right.

Producer told me that the story was originally written by Szeto Kam-Yuen

Yeah. We can see some gags in the movie.

It's very funny, like circling the dim sum paper

and there're more appeared in the coming scenes.

Are they the original plots in the story

or the reworked ones by Matt Chow

Or the additional ones for some reasons or even the actors' impromptu creations?

Matt Chow reworked them when he took over it.

I also wanna enrich it

So I asked Matt Chow to add his long suit to it.

That's some light ones which also adapt to the plots

but not those very facetious he used to make.

Some black humors instead.

Cause when I watched this film in the cinema,

from now and then, the audience would

laugh or smile at some scenes like the one circling the dim sum paper

For a movie with strong tension, this is quite something.

This is much more necessary for a movie with tension, to release a little bit

Otherwise, it would be tough for all of us.

These should be made in different days, shouldn't it? Yes.

You had a group of,

what we called extras. Bit parts

They were all very good in their roles

It was the director's merit.

Like the guy we'll see very soon... is he Big Eyes? It's "Funny Eyes"

"Funny Eyes", the dentist and the others, they really did a good job.

its different to some other movies.

I saw movie from my childhood,

As an assistant director in several previous films I used to have lots of bad habits

Usually, when choosing a taxi driver,

we would only care if he can drive a taxi or not.

But for this movie, I chose Fo Fo He is a popular stage actor.

In fact, he don't know how to drive a taxi.

Even though he can't, I appreciate his performance.

I worked with him before,

in the movie "Love Undercover". I was the line producer.

Fo Fo has his own character, he's out of the ordinary.

I thought I should try to use these guys.

Even Sing, taking the role of "Funny Eyes" is also a stage actor.

They can understand the role's character well. Of course they need some guidance.

I think a solid, exquisite film

is very depend on the side characters and how detailed in its bits and pieces.

I myself concern alot about it.

This is the section I like most for the whole movie

From that moment when Sam Lee met Chan Kwoon-Hei.

I like it very much.

I even put the whole part in a DVD chapter.

It was interesting that nobody noticed it when shooting

But our producer, who was there watching us on site

said it's marvelous.

He told me his comment. But I was too tired to recognize it.

When I saw it again, I realized its a nail-biting sequences

The atmosphere wasn't easiest until he fired

It's strange that you can tell whether the scene is good or not by the atmosphere you got on site.

Cause the atmosphere can spread out.

When it was almost done that day, I just told him that it would be good.

I also think it's pretty good. Cause I think the way he handled...

Of course many filmworkers have experience in handling the scene of homicide

say, a thousand or so of them in HK

But this time we have our own style.

and we're courageous to do it in this way.

We also met a problem when handling this scene.

I wanted that gunshot came in a sudden

How to build up the moment?

Finally we had Fat Suet's typical gesture

It really matches up with his character. He's that kind of man.

1,2, 3 and run.

1, 2, 3 and shoot.

You'll feel it's quite natural for him

The way he counted his fingers is so unique...

I've ever thought what Fat Suet could do

Only him could do it well, the action of counting fingers.

Even for Cheung Siu-Fai or Lai Yiu-Cheung, I don't think it will be...

Things would be different then.

the 1, 2,3, you've been into it.

His fingers will control your mood.

I myself like it very much I'm not sure about others

To be frank, this kind of movie is not favourable in Hong Kong.

Cause it requires the audience to be really into it, or you can't understand it so well.

Even being absent-minded for a moment, you'll lose many messages.

I think we do not have a good box-office in HK

is that we put many things into the film

which some audience can't absorb at all.

That might be one of the reasons.

Maybe I'm in justification of myself.

You can find it very elaborate.

And Lam Suet also did a good job.

We gotta fight a battle of wits with the audience,

things have to happened before the audience can figure out.

This is very important for the modern movies.

Before we began to record this commentary,

I told the director that I have things that I couldn't understand.

The first question

My question is

Did Lam know he was speaking Thai at this moment?

We know it from the subtitle that

Lam was speaking Thai and Chan speaking Cambodian.

Lam didn't know He didn't know

He only wanna say his words? Yeah, and...

he misunderstood Chan was speaking Thai.

If you're not good at either of the two languages, you'll think they are very similar.

I've ever listened to both Thai and Cambodian,

I also think they're very similar.

But when a Thai listens to a Cambodian, he knows they are totally different.

Only if you don't...

For example, if I know some Thai but not Cambodian.

then I can't tell the difference.

It's a little ridiculous ridiculous!

You aren't good at either of them.

You speak what you know and you assume the other party can understand.

I can understand why Chan would kill the hostage,

Cause the hostage wanna put away his hand put away his hand

But I don't know why he wanna kill Lam.

Cause he was to surrender.

He needn't kill him

When I wrote the play I had think this carefully

Even he would surrender he wanna imply it wouldn't be so easy for him.

And I thought there should be something special about Edison.

Even he surrendered, he would do one more thing.

That would be typical of the role.

I don't know how to explain myself well,

I think if something can adapt to the role,

like that I asked Edison to look at the camera.

Only because I think it's necessary for the role,

I don't know whether he should kill Fat Suet logically.

I only think the role logically would kill him.

At the very beginning, I thought

Chan misunderstood that those were abusive language in Thai.

He misunderstood Fat Suet was scolding him. No...

So as you scolded me, then I...

This reminds me another thing.

You focus on death

I mean William you focus on death,

But for Chan, there's no death, but survival.

Death is meaningless to him.

So he thought killing Suet

was just one way for him to survive.

He didn't suffer alot from killing people.

But for people who live in the metro,

death is a big deal.

That's the difference.

But his action when gonna kill him, is kinda challenging. Yes.

He stuck into him slowly, but not rapidly. Yes.

To some extent, this is a provocative action to Sam Lee.

Yes.

I want to arrange a situation

that makes their enmities towards each other become absolutely irreconcilable.

You pointed a gun at me, I can't escape at all.

In this case, I'm forced to do so.

Chan seemed to have no regard for his life at all. Yes.

That was why he was so ruthless when killing people.

He is forbidding because he has no feeling when he kill someone.

It's not because of hate, nor love, but a kind of demand

That's the most ruthless of him.

he seemed to regard it as a simple action.

Yes, he did.

I got it from the netfriends that

for those big budget HK movies, the police station will be well-decorated.

But in this movie, we can see one in a different style.

To be honest, it also costs alot.

We set up the whole place by ourselves.

The art director and I insisted to decorate this place like this.

It's like a iron cage.

which goes well with this movie.

It's inside the Electrical and Mechanical Services Department

Their building has so many spaces.

and grand rooms there. But we gave up.

We finally chose this one.

It's not for the low cost in fact it isn't not that low.

Just because it's narrow and uneasy. This fits for our movie,

which make it much abstract.

That's what we want.

Look at the light. How can it be so dark in the police station?

There should be some daylight lamps there.

But we didn't use the light source from the ceiling.

All we use are from the side.

Therefore it's quite dark inside.

In a righteous police station there's still such a dark world.

This is what we want to show.

It also goes well with the role Lee played.

Then it'll be difficult for the DVD to handle.

The whole movie was shot in somber, dark colors Very dark, isn't it?

Maybe we gotta make the TV set much brighter when watching it.

to see their expressions clearly. Like the movement of their eyebrows

Many people told me that they hated the role Lee played.

But when it came to the final part, they commiserated over him.

Through the whole movie, you wanna tell us it's a faulty world, don't you?

Yeah. Everything is not that perfect at all.

When you realize this

you'll find it valuable to get something perfect.

So you had the last words about life in the end

When the baby was born, the whole story came to the end.

But the contrast between Chan and Lee are very sharp.

Chan is aimless.

life is meaningless to him.

But when I watched it, I had a question,

what on earth you were gonna tell us.

At the end, I found the theme you wanna show us was survival

But about Lee, I got puzzled.

I want to show my two opinions.

Of course many movies reach the same goal by different routes.

Good or bad of a man or an incident

But for this movie, I wanna show the audience things can be both positive and negative.

To survive is the same.

I don't agree that

Edison is aimless.

I think Edison in the movie was very clear about his aim to survive.

That's to continue his life.

Even thought he had to kill many people he wanna continue his life.

For the question of survival Lee didn't know what he was doing at all.

In this scene, we wanna show that he got lost at that time.

He was easy to get mad. For example, he questioned by the Internal Investigations officer.

Then he went shake his father.

I don't think it's polite for a son to do so

But you can see he recognized it after doing so.

He then stroke his father's head.

He just couldn't control himself.

He really got lost.

didn't know what he could do.

you can find he didn't hate his father

and when he stroked his father, you can see he did love him.

He wasn't meant to scare the guy with his anger

at least at my point of view, he wasn't.

It's just because he couldn't control himself.

In the later part, you'll find out the reason why he hated his father on the surface

But in fact, he loved him.

That's the reason why he was reluctant to leave here.

Is there any given background of times for this movie?

Say, the modern times, or ten years ago

It's modern times, not ten years ago.

We've ever discussed it with some people,

why the police was like this

like those in the 70's.

At the very beginning, they were really designed to be not that modern.

We're not meant to write something about the supercop

we have discussed this earlier

were we bound to achieve something?

were we bound to tell a detective story in this 90-minute movie?

Not really.

It isn't easy to find out the background of times in this movie.

you can't see anything modern, like a late mobile phone.

Have you ever been afraid of that no matter it is in the modern time, or 10 years ago, or even 20 years,

something won't be acceptable by the audience?

Like, they don't think the police can be like this.

they are very polite.

they will say hello to the citizens.

I think even these days nobody can affirm it.

You can find that some policemen who did the wrong thing.

Of course they don't go loot.

But mental problems, are common now.

What happened on the police in HK these days is what I want to show.

No matter how modern and civilized the world becomes,

there are still some people who will kill others. He can even be a policeman.

It's quite unexpected.

I have a question here.

are there any people living in the refuse dump?

I really have no idea about it. Yes.

In fact, it's somewhat not real-life.

I want to draw a picture of my world.

I regard them as caretakers.

I think there should be a caretaker even in a refuse dump.

But we put the hut in the middle of a garbage heap

for a better visual effect.

Yes, some people do live in the dump. even in the one where we setup our set

Really? Sure.

But we built this hut.

Their houses locate elsewhere.

Like beside the refuse dump? Right.

They even set up a shed by using bamboos.

and they live in a shed.

Where's the refuse dump? In Thailand.

We've asked some refuse dumps in HK but they refused our request.

Cause it's quite dangerous there.

All things are dirty and there are much germen there.

But I really want to make our movie there

So finally I went to Thailand and got one.

The girl is a new face to us.

How did you find her? Well...

I found her from a TV commercial a few years ago.

She was making the TVC for a 123 Telecom with Jay Chou in Prague.

She played the role of a fairy.

I was impressed by her

and wanna work with her.

I got her name Pei Pei later

It seems she's ever took part in the contest of Young Teresa Tang

Now she studies in the Drama College.

She was 17 when playing in the movie.

now she is 18 as the movie is finished.

I don't want to choose one who is familiar to everybody

Cause the role she played is somewhat gawkiest

a fat and dirty girl.

Of course I can find a beautiful one in HK to take the role,

but I don't want any sex appeal about the role.

I just need a little girl who can also act.

That's why I chose her.

When shooting the scene about their affections, I regard them as kids.

For Edison's romance appeared in the refuse dump

I think they are two pure kids

Though they did something quite ridiculous

just like the kids losing their temper.

The girl seems to be too pure to handle the matter.

Did Edison recall something when seeing this

and thus he had those behaviours? Yes, he did.

The function of setting up the refuse dump

is to remind Edison's childhood

and so far by seeing this photo,

he knew the girl was raped by her father

Everybody will have mercy to others

I want to show this character in details

He's cruel, at the same he's warmhearted.

but not in an ordinary style.

When meeting such a dirty girl, people will probably keep apart

But he doesn't mind.

When shooting this scene, we had an accident.

Our lighting engineer stepped on a nail.

We're afraid that he would be infected.

Fortunately, we had a medical personnel with us.

and he gave him medical treatment at once.

How long did you stay there?

Around 4 days.

Was it difficult for you to stay there?

It's quite weird.

The first time I was there for site inspection, I felt kinda stinking.

and 15 minutes later, I thought it was alright.

Then I thought it was okay.

Maybe I like it. I got used to it.

This is the other actor I like very much. He's "Funny Eyes"

I remember he really smashed him in this scene.

The Japanese producer was on site.

When he saw it and heard "bang, bang"

he was very surprised, "Does he really smash against him?"

Soi is famous for his requirement of real man, real car, real smash and real crash in his movie.

He really did a good job.

He is a surprise.

In fact I was so bad

I was still thinking of the role the day before shooting

what he should look like.

My assistant director told me his performance wouldn't be that much.

But I didn't agree, cause I wanted him to be remembered

I guessed, I could let him laugh all the time.

And Lee beated him all the time.

That would be funny when he kept on laughing in spite of being beated.

when he finished, I told him that he did what I wanted.

Did it take for only once or many takes...

NG (no good) for many times.

Too many times that even myself could feel the pain.

I felt the strength was inadequate.

even I heard "Pom Pom" loudly.

When I saw it through the camera, I couldn't feel the strength.

I asked Lee to try harder.

Was the blood real? No, it was artificial.

The Internal Investigations Officer

he's a film worker in fact.

the one with moustache is an assistant director

Andrew Lau's assistance director in "Initial D"

He's David, never played in the movie.

We knew each other not long ago, but I asked him to take an role in my movie.

and he promised me.

He actually did a good job

He wasn't nervous even the other side is Cheung. Yeah, he wasn't.

This is another scene that I had a bad experience.

Yeah, you gotta say something about this.

Say something about your inhumanity.

You'll soon see Fo Fo on screen.

the role of the taxi driver.

He was beaten and had to go to the hospital in reality.

Even for a simple action,

if it wasn't well-directed accident might happen.

Actually those finally went wrong are always overlooked at the very beginning.

If it's about an action of jumping off the building,

it'll be safe cause we've got ready for everything.

But for some simple one, accidents might happen.

I feel so sorry for it.

After this scene, Fo Fo gotta go for another movie the next day.

Then he gotta bind up himself when shooting. Yeah, bind up himself.

I originally planned to throw real screws at him.

Really? Not at last.

Look... pouring oil on him...

and look at this, was really hit.

on the mouth, quite serious.

He was send to the hospital finally.

Then we used stand-in.

I have 3 assistance directors, all of them had took the role.

This is my first AD

That one taken away is the second one.

Fai our log keeper.

This is the log keeper.

Three of them had ever taken this same role.

You can understand why our director needs so many assistance directors.

Fo Fo is a nice guy.

He called me and asked if he gotta make up for the scene.

I said "no need, you can just have a rest."

No wonder we can't see his face at this scene.

We gotta pause here to check if we can identify the actors

Talking about this, I remind "Chain Reaction" directed by Joe Ma

You can see Fo Fo with band-aid on his face

just from time to time.

I'm really so sorry.

So the shot which he felt painful... It was true.

It was done without any letup? Yes.

I think it should be the handle or the brim...

The handle bumped into him accidentally

Did they really fight again each other in many scenes?

Yes, they did.

But of course we had a action director with us on site.

They tried to make it lifelike Not the real one.

If not, they gotta bear being hit.

But sometimes they really gotta do so

They (Sam and Edison) even lost their temper.

But they would be alright soon.

We'd discussed about this scene for a long time.

Cause originally,

I planned to let the girl not wear any pants

even from the very beginning she showed up.

Surely it would be somewhat beyond the censorship stuff.

So the Arts Director designed her a practical skirt.

which could show her butt if she made some particular movement.

then covered her up again.

In fact this role is almost beyond the restriction. Yeah.

raped by her father at the beginning,

let him help herself try on the pants then.

If she was a girl with sex appeal

I think people would have different opinion on her.

So Pei Pei was the unique one I could choose among all the girls I knew.

She is quite suitable for the role.

I think it's quite romantic.

matt Chow worked it out.

When he made it I could figure out the relationship between these two

Only by a simple action of trying on the pants

I knew they had established their close relationship.

A plot which will never appear in those co-production films.

Before making the movie, did you throw caution to the winds?

Say, pay no attention to the censorship stuff in Mainland China.

When I decided to work with Cheang Poi-Soi I could foresee everything.

But the movies you directed before were not that extreme.

I directed several co-production films before

there were many limitations.

This time, I told Sam that to abandon the China market.

so we could do what we really want to do.

Then I could feel ease to make it.

I would think over what I really want without any limitations.

I also wonder what is unique in HK

Then I found violent movie was not common in HK

So I set up my pattern like this.

I told the director I appreciated his creative thought.

I think it's very important.

If we followed so-called co-production film mentioned in CEPA,

everything should be formulized.

When our movie was censored by TELA in HK,

I asked whether it could be judged as grade IIB.

They said it couldn't if such kind of scenes

were throughout the whole movie.

Why? It was not because of the scenes,

but the ideology showed in the whole movie.

We shouldn't make it at all.

Don't make it.

Fortunately, we have a Japanese market,

This is very important for us.

We can give up the China market, needn't think of limitations there.

Just make a real HK style movie like those old ones.

This is very valuable about this movie.

Maybe nobody will make another one like this in 2 or 3 years.

Has this been shown across theatres in Japan yet?

It will release at the beginning of next year in Japan.

I'm not sure if you're well aware that we've gone into

competition at Tokyo International Film Festival.

Actually, I would say it's quite ironic this time

The box office in Hong Kong is bad, okay.

In the perspective of Hong Kong people...

William is here and I'd feel a little awkward to say this.

There is no film producer who doesn't hope for a good box office.

we would hope for many people to watch our movies.

We believe that we've made a good movie.

Even though there are flaws and other contradictions.

But we've really put our heart out into making this film.

So perhaps Hong Kong people really don't enjoy watching films of this genre.

Surprisingly, our boss has willingly invested in his money to keep this production going.

And invested more for us to make another movie.

We've gone into competition at the Tokyo International Film Festival.

We would find ourselves somewhat confused.

It's like saying "just exactly what kind of movie should we be making?"

But we feel that we must insist on certain things.

Actually, Sam has done a plentiful amount of films.

Is "Dog Bite Dog" the biggest production you ever worked on so far?

I think it's just about the same.

I wouldn't say it's the biggest.

Maybe there were 2 or 3 other big productions.

But the biggest production from my recollection should be "No Problem 2".

That film had, at least, a ten million Hong Kong dollar budget.

Our company produced... this is the 18th film.

and this is also the most favorite one to me.

Even between the other films that I've directed.

I think this film

shouldn't be considered to be revolutionary.

With a group of film workers,

who are enthusiastic in film making.

I feel happy that we had the chance to make this film.

What I'm saying is, we have the courage to make this film.

I think that is most precious.

Another question I have...

something that all our viewers won't be able to see on this disc.

There was a deleted scene that I won't include on this DVD.

There's a flaskback where

Edison Chen was fighting in a taxi cab and slaughtered the taxi driver

And there was a spot where I saw Edison wrote something on a Panadol's packaging.

Viewers won't see this

because it's too short. Just 2 seconds.

So I didn't include this. Yes...

What exactly did that scene wanted to express?

Actually just before he left the pier in the very beginning

he was looking at the sign outside of the Castle Peak fish market.

Actually for a person who doesn't know Chinese,

He was really trying his hardest to tell the taxi driver where he wants to go.

So he wanted to remember how to write the word "Castle Peak".

But afterwards, we deleted this minor detail.

It's because it might slow down the rhythm of the movie.

It's because when this scene goes to this detail, it will probably start to drag a bit.

And we decided to use the drawing of boat instead

So Matt and I deleted this scene finally

He tries hard to draw something

but in the end, he couldn't do it.

He couldn't write down the word.

It's like when we go to Thailand, looking at Thai writing

we would try our hardest to memorize the writings

but its impossible.

Because you don't have that concept.

Then we thought we ought to use something simple.

We asked them to draw a little boat.

Then I thought to myself and well, those two are really little kids.

What do little kids communicate with?

So it'd be something very simplistic.

For example, I'd go and search for a boat.

I wouldn't know how to communicate with you through words, then I'll draw it out for you.

if you are listening to this commentary, then you'll know.

There's a deleted footage where he's drawing on a box of Panadol.

Actually after I saw this film in HK Filmart around April

I was already going after Sam. Thanks!

So that's why I say, not only was Sam feeling angry.

I actually felt kind of angered

to see that it wasn't doing great at the box office.

Even though the box office really have nothing to do with me,

but to see that happening, it really feels upsetting.

Now that we see that this film was taken to

Tokyo Film Festival for competition

I'd say that it's a bit of an exchange of consolation.

Frankly speaking, a bad box office is obviously not a good thing.

The dividend we can obtain from box office

is not a big sum.

as a movie in general,

but rather I feel that

it's the flaw of the entire market.

I'm not saying that the people who haven't seen "Dog Bite Dog" don't know how to appreciate it.

That's not the issue here.

But it's more like saying

what type of movie in the market would prefer to enjoy.

That's the scariest thing of all.

But then, it gets you to thinking whether or not I should

make more movies that the people of Hong Kong people would watch.

Or should I completely give up on it

and take care of the overseas market.

This big direction is pretty frightening.

In fact, many new productions... Yes.

are already thinking of Europe and other Asian markets...

And not really getting into thinking about what Hong Kong people want to watch.

But of course, we would like to see local audience to be more accepting local movies.

The biting and fighting in this scene are all real.

It's for real.

So this is the real fighting you speak of, is like. Yeah.

They showed their tempers as they fought. Yeah.

But they recovered really quick.

Because it really hurts when you keep hitting.

As Edison Chen bit Sam's neck,

and when Sam is trying his hardest to hit his head,

you can really hear a loud popping sound.

But then, I thought it wasn't good enough,

not good enough so we had to do another take.

There was something in this movie that I didn't particularly like.

I can't remember if it was this scene or another scene.

Where there was dubbing when fighting. The dog noises.

Many people said... I didn't really like that.

Many people said that it's not needed.

But really, it's a personal preference.

But there is one thing I think that should be expressed.

Of course, I'd think about whether or not it's a little extraneous.

Perhaps when I re-watch this a year after, I would think it's a bit extraneous.

But this is what I think at this moment. It's necessary?

I think it is necessary.

I think it's fine.

In the very beginning, Cheung Siu-Fai was pointing at the dishes in the restaurant

and said "He's a starving dog".

I actually don't like such obvious lines of dialog. Obvious...

Did the accident led you to have such arrangement of hitting the nails?

No... After this happened...

This is not. This was designed from the start.

It's not just hitting nails.

But there are those who breathed through bad air.

Ones that are hazardous to breathe through.

Some even had a heat stroke. Some had a heat stroke

Or got themselves a swollen face. Yes.

What month was it when the film was shooting?

Would it be very hot?

No, it wasn't too hot.

It was February. The end of February.

But the weather in Thailand is just about the same.

And there were a lot of plastic bags at the set.

The refractions from the plastic bags are equivalent to what's beneath a snow field.

It makes the temperature more hot...at the set.

But now what the viewers see now

is actually in Hong Kong. Yes, back to Hong Kong!

We've spent over ten grand.

Ten grand worth of garbage. Just to cover it up at the set.

You should have notified me earlier. Buying garbage.

The producer asked me how much you needed for covering up much junk.

I said I spent $10,000.

He just stood there, idling. Two trucks full of garbage came right in.

What I remembered most was not the seriousness of covering the set full of garbage.

Clearing out the trash. But rather, it was clearing it out.

It took over two days to clear out.

Several fellow workers had to spend two entire days

just to clear out the trash from the set.

It's actually pretty risky. Because I purposely found a spot with light-rail next to me.

A light-rail transit. It'd be meddlesome if it's blown away.

It's really meddlesome once it's blown over.

That's why we really have to need people to look after it.

It's still good in broad daylight because it's visible.

In the evenings, we had to grope our way on the dark night.

But I still like it. It's very rare for a light-rail to have

nothing to block its way. Almost like a sand desert.

Actually, another thing which I think

A lot of people on the internet are saying that...

Edison can drive, and is good with directions.

That's really...

It's not like Hong Kong people are the only ones who can drive a car.

I think it's fine knowing how to drive.

Right now, he's just looking for directions.

Just a simple search for directions. He doesn't know where he needs to be going.

He finally figures out where he needs to go.

Then he'd know his directions so he drove off.

I actually don't really mind these kind of problems.

Logically speaking, everyone would have figured that out already.

It's because I follow a basic principle.

I picked it up many years ago from a certain popular film maker

who's still making movies today and he said to me that

When you're writing a script, you should take illogicality and avoid typicality.

If it's typically logical, it doesn't necessarily mean it's entertaining. It's very true.

when you break away from all of your ideas. It gets even worse.

Then this movie is just another plain old movie.

It's just that a completely logical film

doesn't necessarily mean it's a very unique film.

Take Edison Chen for example.

You said that he doesn't drive.

If he doesn't drive, for the flow of the storyline, it is difficult to continue

It's hard to let it motivate the story.

Because I've already talked to him about the question that you've asked.

Yeah, it was asked already but I said I don't care.

I said I don't care. I must have it this way.

The producer and I are both like this.

There are times where I'd...

I would give up on certain logicality.

Just to motivate the story.

However, some of it can be improved on.

What I mean is, it should be thought over through smaller details.

Or perhaps certain other things

can be re-written but

I'll take notice of those.

Whether it's good or not, it really reflects on whether the people of Hong Kong can

concentrate on watching Hong Kong made movies.

As a movie viewer myself,

I don't think there is a movie that exists without illogicality.

It's just a matter of whether or not you can focus on the viewing

or you want to challenge the story... Yeah...

So everyone should... Yeah.

But the biggest problem with Hong Kong movies is

you step into the theatre to watch a movie only to seek out its flaws.

I've tried going to the theatres and suddenly

hear someone counting out the wires he saw. Yeah.

It's like "Look! There's a wire!" "Look again! Another wire"

and I'd think "Oh crap! This is how you watch it" That's the kind of thing they enjoy.

That's the bad thing about their assumptions to Hong Kong films.

I would go in, expecting to laugh.

It doesn't matter if it's a comedy or a tragic film,

he'll still regard it as a comedy

because he'll be all happy after he finishes watching the movie.

He lets it all out.

For this movie, you would only mind if it's illogical once you're focused into watching it.

But let's say you're watching a comedy, logic isn't what you look for.

The only thing you'd expect from a comedy is laughter. Yes.

Everyone sees this sign here...

I brought a rough cut copy and watch it at Wilson Yip's home.

His wife was watching it with me.

And then, his wife was staring at the boat sign.

She asked if Hong Kong has that sign on the boat. Yeah.

I told no one does but I do. Yeah.

It only exists in my movie.

That's the thing that I want to express. It's the existence of this thing.

But what's really funny about it is that it's exactly like the drawing.

I've once asked you why our drawings is exactly the same as the road sign.

That's the kind of rebuttal will exist

But many years ago... I don't think a lot of people...

As for me, I wouldn't ...

How come there's such a coincidence that a road sign was there and told him the way to the pier.

I think it should be there.

We really please the art directors.

It's because everyone started asking if this sign exist.

I said it doesn't really exist, not available anywhere in the world.

I only want it available in this movie.

Then, they make it look like a sign that Hong Kong would have.

If viewers look for something illogical,

this sign would be illogical.

There is no sign in Hong Kong like this.

But they've made the quality and texture believable enough

that viewers wouldn't have any doubt about it.

People wouldn't be asking about it.

We've made a road sign that'd probably tell you

that's one of those road signs in Hong Kong.

You might start thinking that you've seen this before.

Then, people would notice...

But fact is, it doesn't exist in all of Hong Kong.

It probably exists in the Honduras. It's even made to look kind of old.

Yeah! We made it look old and rusty.

The props division did a great job, making it look old.

And they wouldn't ask again.

In the past, we might put a brand new road sign there.

Nowadays, there's always been improvements.

Even a part-time designer would tell you that

this wouldn't work. It'd need to look much older.

I actually thought that this sign

would look more convincing than the sign says "Sam Ka Village Pier".

They provided a beautifully made road sign for me.

I didn't think it was suitable for the film.

It was my request for a plank. It's not that there's no money for it.

Well, yeah! They've already made one...

I said it looks so nice.

It's not quite suitable for the film. Might as well pick up a plank and write it down.

I've actually seen signs that are displayed like this.

It's really like this. Even the traffic division has signs like that.

Yeah! tis like that. Just written on a board.

just written with the words "Sam Ka Village Pier"

The problem is... Okay, you'll find

the appearance of the road sign is logical.

But from the light-rail transit station... Yeah

From the transit station to the San Ka Village,

it was illogical.

No, the distance between the station and the village

isn't very far. Both of them in Tuen-Mun.

Sam Ka Village is in Lei Yue Mun. Lei Yue Mun

Lei Yue Mun? Oh!is it? Yeah.

That's Sam Shing Village. okay okay.

We wouldn't have known if you didn't mention it. Yeah.

That's Sam Shing Village. Okay...

This also raised another problem.

It was shot, looking very old and rusty. Almost like it had no value.

Just like the pile of trash we just talked about earlier.

You would have never thought that it was expensive. Edison Chen's manager...

Her name is Kat. We all call her Sister Kat.

She said your movie is

completely filled with garbage.

It doesn't look like a lot of money was spent in making this movie.

Then I said to her.

Sister Kat, you have no idea. We spent over $10,000 for the garbage alone.

Everything...made for the film It was made for the film.

You can't just film it wherever you'd liked it to be filmed.

And you'd think it's flawless.

The moment we switch between the garage dump

in Thailand and the one we setup in Hong Kong

You wouldn't find any mistakes around. It's quite comforting.

Actually, I enjoyed this scene very much.

Wayne Lai (Lai Yiu-Cheong) pushed on him to the wall. Yeah.

These 3 character all have their own inner world within themselves.

It's like you feel I'm good to you

Then I beat you up. This kind of feeling.

Human characteristics is just so unbalanced.

I mean, people would change a lot of things in a matter of seconds.

It's very close to that in this movie.

The reason I would have this character in my movie

because I've had direct contact with a few drug addicts.

They're very weak.

As soon as you give something to him...

Now, let's say, for example, take-out dinner for him to eat,

they're treat you like family.

Even he hates the person who bought the meal for him.

Once they talk about drugs, or stuff about yourself they'll get on to you.

This is all very real.

That's just how weak people can get.

Love can actually be just as weak.

Say your film "Love Battlefield", You also had this kind of projection.

At this moment, there may be a lot of changes.

This is one of my favorite expressions coming from Wayne.

Wayne's a very good actor.

He heard Sam hitting on "Funny Eyes".

Okay, I'll join.

Wayne Lai's an actor who's been neglected by people.

Yeah! His acting is very spot-on.

Cheung Siu-Fai, who is in many Johnnie To's film people will acknowledge his acting.

He is an excellent actor.

Lam Suet's a great actor.

But people tend to have the impression that Wayne is...

How should I put it?

Somewhat of a lower standard. Like a low caliber actor.

But Wayne Lai is really a great actor.

He is an actor who does his job well.

But if you want him to respond in any way,

he would do it for you right away in one take.

If it shows up in the second take,

It might be someone unable to match up with him.

Very few actors can react so accurately.

I think his accuracy is very high.

Everyone can have this vibe that

Hong Kong have a group of actors who

really...and after one look at the shot...

tell you right away that they are really actors.

I think to make a movie like this...

It's never really been about how much money we can make.

Of course, I hope William does make money.

But instead, I feel it pulls and gathers a force that

I know if others will agree on this.

the fact is... Hong Kong is still at the top of the game

No matter if it's the actors or the crew,

or even the pretty boy Edison Chen,

but everyone has done a great job here.

As to how we can analyze this,

I believe we'd need to take 2 to 3 years and see if we can

be at the turning-point position

and tell others that we can make another movie like this.

It doesn't have to contain things purely made for laughs and scolding, or a very ordinary film.

But rather, something that can be enjoyed by people.

Of course, I feel that we'll need time to

raise a new generation of viewers to appear.

But I hope that is a start.

This was done really well...

I've thought for a long time over how this should be said.

I thought Matt's dialog was very well written.

Finally came up with this method of releasing anger.

The dialog exchange in this scene is done in very proper manner.

The food court scene in the very beginning has a good control of atmosphere

The dialog and everything else in this one was done nicely.

Now I think back to the shooting process with Sam

I realize that Sam was really in a lot of pain...

I asked him to be in a lost state of mind.

In this case, it difficult for him to follow, no direction for him at all

it is a difficult process for him

He's worked very hard to do his part of the film.

So then, he thought about it very hard.

I repeatedly told him not to think about it.

The more he doesn't know where to think about it, the more he is perfect for the role.

This is my assistant director and log keeper. They are crew members

The person who has a bleeding wound is my first A.D.

The one next to him is logo keeper, Lobo.

They've previously took FoFo's role

They were FoFo's stand-in

The dentist and the nurse are also very good actors.

This one is quite humorous. Yeah...

Before I shot this scene, Matt had to leave

and back to his radio show " She, He, She are coming”

I asked him if he really wanted to keep this scene about the dentist.

He said "Yes! It's a must! Trust me!"

its a good one

So I said I'm going to do it for real. He said "Just film it!"

So I really did it for him.

The results turned out pretty good.

At the time, I thought whether or not this could work.

His idea was a dentist without medicine in his office.

So the nurse had to go out for medicine.

When we arrived this set, I discovered this was a dental office.

Then I thought whether this place can be turned into a doctor's office.

Then Matt says "Trust me on this! I can make full use of it."

It turns out that he arranged the nurse could go out with this reason.

no medicine in the room. the nurse had to go out.

But were you not confident enough when you shot this footage?

Yes. But when I actually finished this shot, I thought it was funny.

Oh no! Would this scene not work? I'm building up the tension in this scene.

But it went alright because later on...

If it's only a gag, it would be bad.

But he gave this a reason.

There's no medicine there and it's a dentist.

There won't be any medication so she went off to find some medicine.

Perhaps under that storyline, it'd be fine.

It has a bit of a Korean movie feel to it. Yeah.

A dentist again! Those two gangsters...

That facial expression is very... It feels very Korean movie.

Korean comedies. It feels a bit like that.

And now, we switch on to a different ambiance. It gets serious again.

I actually like this shot.

Edison Chen steps out and they enters. Edison had already left.

I think this was the night where Sam Lee was extremely nervous.

This night, he had to film a scene where he lets out all of his emotions.

Shot on the same night? Yeah! We shot this on the very same night.

I think this dentist did a pretty good job.

That's why a lot of people say... they feel something is missing in a movie.

It's just that you haven't found that actor's full potential.

If you can realize that full potential... As you put it earlier, resemble a Korean movie.

But that's because side characters in Korean films are very comedic.

You can tell that they can provide very good facial expressions.

FoFo and Shing, they can do that as well

or even my assistant director earlier.

He can give you the right expression.

People in our industry would sometimes ask

if they can go for a close-up.

Fact is, everyone can do it.

Just as long as there is drama, it's possible.

But when you're looking for actors,

Do you require a lot of time to look for the right actors?

Yes...it would take a lot of time.

Of course, not only in the process of producing my film.

But I take notice of this when watching movies from other directors.

All the actors mentioned earlier

would think to themselves when they've been put to good use

if they were required to do a certain role,

Nobody would fathom the thought that I'd get an obese person to play the role of a drug addict.

Casting an obese person to play a drug addict.

It's not that bad if you can use drugs and still look healthy.

He will appear in the two upcoming Hong Kong films.

But it's not a huge role.

He'll probably be playing the manager of a sushi restaurant.

I won't mention which movie it is.

Sushi restaurant manager and those type of roles but nothing that's very eye-catching.

You would start to take notice of unfamiliar actors after watching this movie.

You'd think that they did a great job.

You'd acknowledge that person as an actor.

So why did you suddenly get actors...

Actors like Dominic Lam.

They were like our childhood label with their own personal trademarks.

Like with Dominic Lam, he was famous for the role of cop on TV

He was an actor that I enjoyed very much.

It was just a great coincidence that he wanted to find work in Hong Kong again.

And I knew his manager.

So we decided for a collaboration.

The role was perfect for him.

Because we had trouble for a long time over this role.

Before we started production, we still haven't decide who would play the role.

I've thought about Dominic Lam a long time ago.

He's in Toronto, so I thought it would be a lot of trouble for him.

Then we received word that he wanted to return to HK for work. So I called him immediately.

He was willing to come back to Hong Kong after I explained his role.

His scene weren't very much. He only had a few days to shoot. Then he flew back to Canada

Would it be a little awkward for him?

Because he used to do programs for the police.

Or when he was making TV drama series and acting.

He used to have a good cop image. It's okay to him.

But now we're having him portray a bad cop. It's no big deal.

He didn't seem to have any problems with it and he knew these kind of cops do exist.

Some actors got a quick reaction to his emotions.

Just like this shot here.

When we began with a trial shot, he was more well composed.

But I said that won't do, I need a flame. I want something powerful.

He said "Fine! Why don't you start an official shoot for the movie?"

Bang! And all of a sudden, even Sam Lee, and Wayne Lai just weren't the same anymore.

When he escorts them out,

everyone will be the same if he's more calm and well-composed.

It would be kind of awkward for Wayne standing at the side.

So I told him that he must have an explosive temper.

I would know the results of the shoot will not be the same.

So he suddenly acted very temperamental.

Everyone's acting will come right out.

When you were doing the casting,

did you know immediately who you must cast once you pick up the script?

and no alternative

No. I have to think and do some searches

Of course, I had already decided to cast Sam Lee and Edison Chen as the leads.

When other characters, I had to study carefully.

for example, let's say with Cheung Siu-Fai.

Why did we pick Cheung Siu-Fai?

It's because I wanted a group of cops that everyone can quickly get accustomed to.

So we casted Cheung Siu-Fai, Lam Suet and Wayne Lai

not randomly pick...

Of course, within the two young actors,

I want all the side characters to handle their own roles well.

So I casted these people.

The results of that cast is fairly interesting.

The main characters are very eye-catching, as well as the bit parts

However, those three actors

don't seem to be discussed a lot in contrast.

Which three? Lam Suet...

Because they're very familiar with their roles.

They're experienced actors.

They already know what to express in a film like this.

If you talk about wanting what's really eye-catching,

I'm sure they'll know how to handle that.

But they feel that it's not really needed for this movie.

I think it's because their experience tells them that they don't need to do it.

If everyone was eye-catching, it would turn out pretty weird.

But Lam Suet or even Wayne Lai have done a splendid job.

I think that a member in their team,

his role left me a vague impression.

He is Tim, that one is Tim

Doesn't really stand out much. It's practically vague.

It's so vague that up to the end, it's like he ceases to even exist.

when we were brainstorming ideas for this role

each and every team would have a person like that around.

One person that everyone wouldn't be so sure if he had ever existed before.

But you'd be pretty damned sure that he had appeared.

But you wouldn't have a clear memory of his face.

I think this is a right decision.

You can even edit him out of the final cut.

But I wanted a vague character in there.

There's always an unnoticeable person like that in a team.

But once you finally see the team picking up their guns,

He's no ordinary man.

He's really a character doing something to make an appearance.

So I thought we might as well give it a try

Because everyone's got a set idea of their identity.

Tim, the bearded actor in the team standing in the back,

I wanted one thing for his identity. And it's vagueness.

Everyone isn't very clear whether or not this man really exist.

This is Tim, the one with the beard.

He doesn't have much dialog.

Just a couple of simple lines that supply background information.

I haven't even given him any emotional dialog.

But I feel that there's always a person like that within a group of people.

It even happens within a group of friends.

It's like you seem to know him,

you seem to have seen him around but what's his name?

There's many people like this.

And I think it's an interesting aspect.

I think within a team of people, there's gotta be someone like that.

When we're watching shows like "Mazinger Z" or "Voltron", there is always someone like that.

What's the fat guy's name again?

I forgot.

That's the kind of vibe I like.

Tim asked him before "Director. I don't need to say anything, do 1?"

Yes. Believe me. I need a man like this.

He had his dialogues...

I told him that I need him to do one last thing at the end of the film,

I think Tim would have that kind of attitude in this movie

So that's why there's always this illusion that his appearance is for the sake of the ending.

The subplot for him is that he'll have to abduct. He'll need to abduct.

Yeah. And that's why this vibe appears.

Actually, this was the result I was looking for.

If I need to think about it, I'd think that

There can't be a few people in a team of police officers.

I've had that train of thought.

And it has been suggested by others.

Would it be too few? Only Wayne Lai and another one dead.

So, wouldn't there be only two members left?

I said we'd have to add a few more people.

There was a scene just now where Sam Lee kills his father.

I had a pondering when I saw that scene. Yes.

Why would he be so cruel? Killed him with a gunshot.

A normal person would be angry with their father.

But never at the point where he would open fire.

If you watch the flashbacks from the beginning of the movie,

his father has always bullying little kids from the start when he was just a small boy.

The child has grown up, he has been constantly seeking for his own ideals.

Until he saw what happened...

Till he saw what happened to his father, he committed to do something very extreme.

Of course, you'd say anger is an immediate reaction.

But what I want to convey is pain. The feeling of pain.

People would tend to do something illogical.

Even if it's jumping off a building, or whatever.

You can still escape from that feeling and that is other than anger, there's pain.

That's the main point I wanted to convey in the film.

Of course, this movie requires an extremity that is suitable for the reactions from this film.

Let's take the reaction from firing a gun at his father as an example.

It's a small chapter of the movie that I planted here.

It's perfect for him.

And how it pushes Sam Lee's role to be as lost as he is today,

I think anger isn't what I'm looking for in this role.

But since we decided to make Sam Lee's character to feel very lost,

and designed his origins,

then this origin would work out fine if it really affects him.

He even lied to his father after killing him.

He still wanted his father to be the father as he pictured him.

People who aren't so lost, would never be this way.

It really expresses what I wanted to convey.

Actually, I wanted to ask a moviegoer who is working in the police force

and debate this over with the director.

This wouldn't be good.

That person would definitely be pissed off.

It doesn't follow lawful procedures. Or what we call a "police protocol".

First of all, we all see that Edison Chen is a very dangerous man.

Normally, in this kind of situation, he would be wanted for arrest.

A shoot-to-kill warrant would be granted.

So I wanted to find a police officer here.

That's in saying that a police officer can open fire too.

Oh, he can open fire?

Another weird thing is,

why would they know when to stop?

You can see it.

Because Wayne Lai can recognize his car. That car is Wayne's.

Then, Edison see that girl on the streets

but many people would have noticed this detail.

Why would Wayne stop his car? He didn't see him.

It's actually because Wayne can recognize his own car.

We feel that they either have the warrant to arrest Edison or kill him.

You should be able to call a big group of police to surround Edison Chen.

Or even take revenge for your fellow men.

No point to follow the rule. Just shooting him when he's in sight.

There was that vibe as well.

We had that thought.

Everyone's gotta save Sam Lee from losing his job.

Everybody's forcing themselves to settle this by tonight.

But perhaps this feeling isn't that apparent.

You'd still get a sense that they'll settle this on their own.

So they've always been helping Sam.

So we thought "why not call a group of people to help".

If it was explained more clearly, people wouldn't be querying themselves.

That's the main motive.

Perhaps one line can do it all.

There were people who discussed that problem with me before.

I've explained that's how it is.

It's because they can't make a big deal out of this.

Once the problem escalates, everyone will be having problems.

So you might as well settle it out on your own.

This set no longer exists.

The local government tore it down on the next day.

It was a real coincidence we encountered this, so we filmed it.

This place must be Tai Gok Chui's Temporary Market.

Watching a movie leaves memories for everybody.

When we watch films from the 80s and the 90s,

we find old buildings from those times.

If not for Hong Kong movies,

our history would be missing a page.

I was re-watching "City on Fire" the other day. I re-watch this movie on a frequent basis.

You can see a huge difference on Nathan Rd. from that time period and what it is today.

But you still remember what used to be there at that very spot.

It's the part where Chow Yun-Fat is running through the streets.

Those hang-lights were actually added by you guys. Yes, we added those.

I wonder why would only a few hang-lights be left after the building is demolished?

That ceiling actually had a few of these not being tore away.

Some actually.

Because they were waiting to be torn down.

Those were actually lamps used in the marketplace.

That side was torn down on the second day.

The tiles on the floor were taken from the tiles on the roof.

But they look great if you were there on the set.

Actually, I think Wayne Lai should just shoot him dead and leave it that way.

If so, the story can't continue on

Then you will have no movie It's a said that watch and don't disturb

I wish I could kill him when I was watching it

I really want to give him a bullet.

The role Yiu-Cheung plays won't shoot

I talked to Yiu-Cheung, he asked me the background of his role

You never shoot at someone before. You don't know how to handle this kind of situation

You saw that he even took so long to make up his mind

before he beat up " Funny Eyes"

He can't draw a gun properly, neither he can get a phone

If you stand at a view as a cop

You must feel that why the cops are so stupid

But you can find real cops like him in life

I think so

Even some chief superintendents have never shot in their lives

Fire could be an onus

Not only fire, but also draw out the gun

Some producers suggest to have more gun shoots

I told them that fire is not as easy as they think

You may need to consult a psychologist after it

In real life there are so many people never fire in their lives

The pressure is bigger than anything else

You can't even remember what you have shot down

The pressure is so big

It's been shunted by the movie a lot

We have fired 300 times, 400 times...

It's totally not like that

We watched too many films from the 80s killing is nothing

No matter a cop or a thief, they can draw out a gun anytime

There's nothing special to have a person died

So there's no gunfight in this movie

No gunfight

I don't really wanna the real gunfights

I can't figure out it reasonablely why they have to keep shooting

Cuz I have to persuade myself for that

Like if they have something bad happened

I wanna ask something at this point

There're quite some different ways to die for each guy in the team

I wonder how you designed the ways

I quite remember Matt Chow asked long time ago

He said, to kill them all just needs 3 mins

I said no way, I want it to last 10 mins

I have to make it last 10 mins... that's what I want

Then he asked what we shall do

It took me 2-3 weeks for this 10 mins

At the beginning, the scene is not this one

We found one in Yun Long at first

For many execution problems we can't make it

When I was thinking, I took the floorplan of this scene

then I started to arrange the path for each of them to follow.

And what it's gonna happen after

The whole thing has come out like that

If we wanted this to be entertaining

maybe every guy can be shot down

But we wanna make them different

Each death continues the next scenario

Like Siu-Fai Cheung, he saw his colleague run over by the truck.

Supposely Siu-Fai Cheung's not an easy erring person

What makes him keep hitting a woman at the end

He must have seen something convulsionary

Violence only happens at one second

If you ask him about it after an hour

He may be regretted very much

Why did I have to do that?

At that moment I have to push Siu-Fai Cheung to a high emotion

People have seen too much gun shots

What else can make Siu-Fai Cheung crazier?

To make this role turning worse,

He has to see that Yiu-Cheung Lai died in a car accident

Till the end he dies

You may not expect that It's quite easy to make a person die

All actors appeared in this scene were impulsive

Yes, I always say that

All people in this movie are impulsive

In this movie, they are not a group of smart people

They are just ordinary ones

Even they doing a case

The cops like Fai are not smart

Not like

So they are good people, Easy to be agitated

Violence in my view is just like that

I was fearless when I filming this movie

I have make these several scenes last so long

I was thinking if it's acceptable when I was filming it

It should be just like Phut, phut phut, that's it

I made these gun shoot last longer

in order to agitate their emotion It somewhat seems a cushion

Honestly I don't really like the exaggerated way Sam Lee acts

The gun shot part? Yes

I heard people said it's funny in the cinema

It's pretty weird though

When your emotion hits very extreme you may have such reaction

I actually won't ask when I was watching it I didn't ask either when I was filming at it

Maybe I've already been into that world

So I can't figure out any reaction at that time

Of cuz people expect that Sam Lee is a funny actor

A good comedy actor

From the movies he attended before

I've heard that

When people don't know how to release their emotion

Smiling is a way to release

I won't say that it's wrong

I just can't react and I'll find another other focus

It turns to funny then

I wanna ask how you design out the lighting

Because the lighting is quite sharp

I've talked to the camerist earlier about it My 1st briefing is, I want light

Why do you want lights? Why not turn off it?

I don't want to

I want you guys to see it clearly

Fairs is the term in camera of this light

I think it's beautiful

This movie is quite down, so is the world

How can we bright out the whole movie?

Actually the many light you have seen

Except for the streetlights, were made by ourselves

We panned our camera to capture those lights in it

You can see that we have chosen quite some kinds of star filters

If you don't have a filter to capture the fairs

To make them as stars, they may become something you can't expect

We made them all as one star filter

We can see it in quite some scenes

At the beginning when Edison just got off the boat

It appears in many scenes

From that scene,

I think many people will argue

Personally, I myself don't want to see what happen after

We'll rather the movie ends up at there

It's possible on the whole story structure

However in my own story it not yet finishes

Basically it's just a start

In my point of view, that part just starts a theme

It does not hit to what I wanna express yet

That's why I insist to keep this ending

Many people talked to me after watching the film

Except for producer, he feels the same as me

Most of the people think that it could be over right there

Isn't it unnecessary to open another chapter for this story?

Producer, script writer and I all think that part is a must

It's also a must in the design of dramatis personae

If we ended the story earlier, Edison is just another ordinary character

Not yet that you can figure out what's going on

From reviewing the Making of Dog Bite Dog

I've seen people use "survival" as movie title

So this scene is to hit the needs for the title "Dog Bite Dog", is it?

Or just after the movie's done

You guys suddenly figure out the name of as ?

It's reversed

It's just because of the theme "survival"

This scene seems more important

It's all about how to survive

You will feel it more important after

Before the beginning of shooting, we started arguing

He asked if we should use "Dog bite Dog" as the movie's name?

I argued with Producer as well

Isn't it weird?

We are already used to it

And it goes with the whole story

So I think it's okay

Even TIFF is using the name

Perhaps it's common to Japan that they will create their own Japanese name

So they just use

Another thing I remember is

How can a s missing after translated to English?

We meant to write it this way

Is Hongers's English that bad?

I'm kinda well-educated

I ask some English speakers and some professors

Even Edison Chen, cuz he grows up aboard

I asked if it works in that way

It's a bit weird. But without a's,

It's still OK

Then we just use it

We made it strange in purpose

Some ideas must be strange too

Some people may think that Hong Kong movies have English grammar problem

People think Hong Kong movies are in a low level That's what I'm disappointed

Did you have any disagreement

with the audience when it hits the end?

Some of my friends are real movie fans

They told me that the movies Cheang Pou-Soi directs are hard to watch

What does hard to watch mean?

It does not mean that the movies are not good.

They meant that you will never give them what they wanna see

It's like they have to strive with you.

We should have more tries

For the audience the same, don't be so close minded

I'm quite open minded

I like watching movies such as Gladiator, Alien

Don't we have any other way?

I'm afraid that we go the same way.

Is it a real fight from these local people

Yup. I think a lot of people got hurt.

Their salaries are not very high. But medical expense are really expensive

Cuz everybody needs to see a doctor

This is...

Actually here's not Cambodia, it's Thailand

The Cambodianwe spoke...

That old dude, tried so hard on practising it for 2 weeks

I have a question You guys worked very hard on this movie

But the result is not that good

Says, the last scene is the main theme

But many people found that it's supposed to be cut off

As being a director, how to face these problems?

How do you feel it yourself?

I think it's just a stage

This may not hit the audience's needs

I myself need to improve, too

The match of the 2 things is not good enough

To make the audience feel good to watch it

This is one thing needs to improve

But it's a process

We definitely want it perfect

No matter making a movie or creation are all needed a process

and a understanding

Do you feel sad?

Nope.

Not at all. We have to look at the good sides.

Then we will feel better

So far I found it's not too bad

and least we are proud of it

At least people will finish it

Instead of leaving at the first 15 mins

So I think it's okay

You ask if it's a try

Well, you can say it that way

Try means that you will experience success or failure

Learn a lesson from the failure

That's not sad

No one knows how it's gonna be when shooting

But we really like it

As being a audience, I feel sad

For me it's a pity

As a DVD and VCD distributor

If you cut it off and tell me that it's a bonus feature

This is the alternative ending from director's cut

It will be fantastic

In my point of view, I'll think it that way

Some people might not like it Because the beginning was quite intense

It turns to comfy at this part

As they get back to the time as being innocent playmates

We feel it warm

We got nervous at the front part

but nervous's gone here

The feel is different

Any special purpose?

The purpose is to make it not the same. Differentiate as before

How can they go along with?

It's not really sweet.

From the view of an outsider, it's not sweet.

They are living a fugitive life

A simple life

For themselves, it's enough

Good enough. As long as they are with each other,

That's what exactly they want

People can feel it sweet

They are happy but tragic

You can still feel they are happy

This happiness you may not feel it

At the first 80 mins

People expect it should be tense

This is all about the characters

Can we cut it short or make it faster?

Is it possible? Nope

I wanted it to go slowly

I just want a different feel

If we cut it short, it will be just a statement

No time for enjoying

Then this part is meaningless

After state their life,

You don't even have a scene for they enjoy their life

To share their happiness

How they end it up like?

Can't leave it unknown

I just made it a bit longer

Many of they thought it was quite dangerous

They doubt that if it's needed

In my view, it is

It's needed some time to enjoy

Did you have any ideas that you had in mind

But eventually not in the movie?

I have thought about something happen at the same time

Like telling people about Sam's boxing life and Edison's life here at the same time.

We gave it up cuz we want to strengthen the twist

Once we gave up Sam Lee's part

The tense of the twist gets stronger when it suddenly comes up

Then that part's gone

Look back to what has happened in Hong Kong

Is there anything that you have thought before?

Not in Hong Kong

Hong Kong was our semi-place

It intensified something

We didn't miss anything we want

We have several thoughts of the ending

Like who kills who, or some are dead but some are not

Even have thought about Pui Wai Ying kills Edison

We have many choices

This one has been picked up for the ending

You will picked up some NG films at the end, right?

The part with some kids

Not that I know of No?

I don't know if my other colleague has

She's with some other NG films shot by another camera

We don't have with the main Cam

In fact... If its valuable, I'll have to search again

It should have

There's a section

Matt talked about it before

After the kid's born, he doesn't know how to survive with few dead bodies

The whole story is about how to survive

He felt fear so he cried

No one knew after he's been crying for a day

Neither one more day

His voice hoarse and nobody aware of him

Even though he's exhausted

He saw some tykes started to bite his parents

He was freak out

There was a monk passed by

That kid sensed that someone has passed by

So he cried out with his last breath

He eventually has been found

This scene didn't come out

It didn't come out

It was just one of the ideas

Ideas of the ending

We shot the 2 kids one

Yes, we did

We had another idea

The 2nd idea was the kid has been picked up by another 2 passing kids

This one has come out?

Kind of. We have 2 kids appeared. We didn't continue

It shouldn't be like that when we were shooting

It seems almost over

So that we didn't continue

We still have some other ideas

Those are too dangerous so they have been banned.

Right!

It was turned down

This old man is quite snaky.

Yes

I think that Sam's funny image's too impressed

I heard people smiling in the cinema

When he's being hurt, people still laugh

Especially when Sam fell down

Some people laugh. We didn't aim to make you laugh at here

Why do you feel it funny?

Maybe this is the way Sam acts like

Yes

He can't wipe off his old image

Is this the very last scene?

We shot it almost in a right order

From the beginning to the ending

Not a lot of people can watch this We watched a lot of features taken by another DV

All actors are very devoted

They don't laugh at NGs

Quite nervous and quiet

every single scene they took, no matter what

We had no way to make them laugh

They's supposed to smile a bit

When NGs, give a smile. Then I can put into the DVD as a bonus

But they don't smile, now that I wanna cry

I think everybody's quite heavy

I don't want they just die like that

I don't want to see this ending

It seems too heavy

But I really think I dedicated quite much in this movie

I can't promise for all the movies after

May producer or boss won't let you go so extremely again

Not to be repeated

One in life is enough

I feel enough myself in my life

Creation doesn't have to go with this

We may make another one, who knows, right?

But at this moment, I think that one is good enough

We don't need to try another same one

That's it This is what it means

There'a a scene of paunch later

Before set up all scenes

I already had such an idea in mind

which is to paunch to take out the baby

This is a scene that most of people scream

When I was watching it

Even my head goes all blank Shocked

In fact it's been cut a half

The operation takes quite a while

I can't accept it myself

Neither normal audience can accept it

Not a lot of Hong Kong movies are that extreme

Many movies just take a back shot

I just want to push the violence to the highest

The most violentest scene is the birth of the child

Do you think it's right?

Instead there's a fight right here

I think that you in purpose to make them fight like...

So real? I don't think it looks real

Do you think that they are like fighting on the stage?

I chose this background, I just want that effect

Yes, it did

You planned a shambles

And to a stage-like performance

Yup. I have this feel

You know, it has to have some differences as before

Before was like that

It does not matter how real you fight at the end

You will see the fight with some slow shots

It's in order to build up a stage feel

In many movies, The director will have many different kinds of thoughts

Sometimes it's a shame that producer bans those thoughts

In this movie, do you have anything you guys feel quite regretful?

Not at this one

Shame won't help you to make more money

Not really. This movie won't make you be out of pocket.

Put down this point, I honestly think it's quite good

I worry that if you direct movie in some other companies

He may not get so freehanded

Not that every other company could be so freedom

Even though I don't like some points

That's his own idea, isn't it?

I'd say you can try your way

I was kinda like go ahead regardless

If I look back in another view 2-3 years later

It's possible to have another different feel

In a general look at Hong Kong

I'm happy to see such a movie

Appears in Hong Kong's movie history

When people look northward, they have all formula ways of creation

There's a movie like this comes out

Lots of scenes are unpublishable appear in here

I somehow feel nice

Is it?

The most estimable in movie is just like that

like a...

After the middle of 90s

Not a lot of movies use similar theme I believe so

or disposal ways

Yes

Hong Kong movies are quite quiet these years

It leads to the result doesn't seem good

When people all went the same way and thought it was a good field

Finally now they found themselves wrong

Do you think that you should use your basic condition to make it instead?

I assume that Hong Kong movies should be like this

I was shocked, when the first time I watched this movie in the cinema

I had an argument with film buyers after the preview

We started to argue at that time

When I walked out of the cinema

I asked myself

If humanity is like this

Anyway I won't regret

I just had a weird feel

How can humanity could be?

It shows on a birth of a baby

It could be better on killing someone you hate the most

But kill someone you love and take out the child

What is it going on?

It's kinda interesting

It's the first time I had this feeling when watching my own movie

Before I was like [let's finish watching and go eat on]

This time I spent about an hour on it

My heart's still so heavy

I keep asking myself if I have done it right or wrong

Later on I stopped thinking. Just let it be

The feeling is quite strong

At this point, did you mean to make Sam Lee regret?

Yes.

He closed his eyes in death after seeing the baby born

He desired to see the last thing

Sam asked me what I was thinking at that time

My answer was, all blank

If you want me to think of something

I will think of Ka Wah Lam you see a dad carries a child

You may wanna be the child

However this is you can never get in your entire life

the most important point for a movie creation is that

You have to leave some space for people to think

We hope this movie will make it

The movie's over. Thanks for the director and producer

And also several fans

I wonder if anyone's the fans of director?

Anyone is?

One of them is. Thank you

When did you start to like this director?

My first movie of director is Diamond Hill

Wow, that's a very old movie

Then it's "Our Last Day"

Diamond Hill is my first 35mm film

It was about incestuous

In fact I have never watched any director's movies

I have only watch Love Battlefield's trailer

At that time I found the trailer was quite good

I looked at the director's name, Cheang Pou-Soi? I don't know this guy

I'm not blowing. I'm just telling the truth

When I was watching the making of video and trailers during the Filmart

I thought, hey, this one's awesome

I hope that you won't regret

I believe the return in the next 2-3 years should be okay

not short-term income

I wish more people will like this movie

and to watch this movie

I might feel regret on the expense point

But never regret on the decision making

I frankly like this movie

Thanks a lot

I would have watched it twice

Thank you...