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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 3 00:00:35,751 --> 00:00:37,792 Hi, this is Eric Clapton here. 4 00:00:38,792 --> 00:00:42,126 I just want to express my sadness. 5 00:00:42,501 --> 00:00:43,709 And... 6 00:00:44,001 --> 00:00:45,417 To say, thank you, 7 00:00:46,084 --> 00:00:48,042 to my dear friend B.B. King. 8 00:00:48,917 --> 00:00:51,417 I want to thank him for all the inspiration 9 00:00:51,584 --> 00:00:54,917 and encouragement he gave me as a player over the years 10 00:00:55,084 --> 00:00:56,917 and for the friendship that we enjoyed. 11 00:00:59,709 --> 00:01:03,876 There's not a lot left to say because this music... 12 00:01:04,792 --> 00:01:06,876 it's almost a thing of the past now. 13 00:01:07,042 --> 00:01:10,001 So, if you're not familiar with his work, then I... 14 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,876 I would encourage you to go out and find an album called, 15 00:01:14,042 --> 00:01:15,542 B. B King Live at the Regal. 16 00:01:15,709 --> 00:01:17,542 Which is where it all really started for me 17 00:01:17,709 --> 00:01:18,792 as a young player. 18 00:01:44,001 --> 00:01:45,584 I had a blissful childhood. 19 00:01:49,126 --> 00:01:51,917 I was raised with a great deal of love by my parents. 20 00:01:52,459 --> 00:01:54,209 Especially by my mother. 21 00:01:54,376 --> 00:01:56,542 Because she loved me in an unconditional way. 22 00:02:00,167 --> 00:02:01,917 He was a fair-haired little boy. 23 00:02:04,376 --> 00:02:07,417 When he was quite young, he had an imaginary horse. 24 00:02:08,417 --> 00:02:09,959 He used to call it Bushbranch. 25 00:02:10,126 --> 00:02:12,834 He used to say, "I'm just going to see Bushbranch." 26 00:02:13,209 --> 00:02:14,792 Shall I get it tied up outside. 27 00:02:17,834 --> 00:02:20,667 He used to play cricket on the green and things like that. 28 00:02:20,834 --> 00:02:22,334 He was a lovable kid. 29 00:02:27,751 --> 00:02:30,584 People say I was pretty spoilt and I was selfish. 30 00:02:31,876 --> 00:02:33,626 I'm sure I must've had some qualities, 31 00:02:33,792 --> 00:02:35,084 but not from what I hear. 32 00:02:37,251 --> 00:02:39,709 I was very fond of painting and drawing. 33 00:02:39,876 --> 00:02:42,209 Anything that was introverted. 34 00:02:52,167 --> 00:02:53,917 He used to draw comic pictures, 35 00:02:54,084 --> 00:02:57,001 like Batman and planes and airplanes. 36 00:02:58,626 --> 00:03:01,376 But he was a bit of a loner at that time, you know. 37 00:03:03,917 --> 00:03:05,584 I knew that I was different. 38 00:03:06,167 --> 00:03:08,292 And I knew that other kids at school 39 00:03:08,459 --> 00:03:11,126 regarded me as different or maybe inferior 40 00:03:11,292 --> 00:03:13,876 and I did have a massive inferiority complex. 41 00:03:14,959 --> 00:03:16,251 And I didn't know why. 42 00:03:26,626 --> 00:03:31,251 Then I found out that my sister was really my mother. 43 00:03:32,542 --> 00:03:34,876 She left when I was very, very young 44 00:03:35,292 --> 00:03:37,334 and I was raised by my grandparents. 45 00:03:42,042 --> 00:03:44,417 I was a widow with two children. 46 00:03:45,084 --> 00:03:46,251 At twenty seven. 47 00:03:47,501 --> 00:03:50,709 My daughter had a baby, and went to Canada. 48 00:03:51,167 --> 00:03:53,876 So, I more or less brought the baby up. 49 00:03:55,501 --> 00:03:58,376 I had no children with my second husband. 50 00:03:58,542 --> 00:04:00,001 So he really loved Eric. 51 00:04:06,084 --> 00:04:09,209 Pat was very lively, very difficult youngster. 52 00:04:10,834 --> 00:04:12,292 She wasn't easy. 53 00:04:13,001 --> 00:04:15,042 Rose used to say she was a nightmare. 54 00:04:16,417 --> 00:04:18,376 She met this Canadian. 55 00:04:19,084 --> 00:04:21,709 He was over here in England in the village. 56 00:04:22,251 --> 00:04:23,709 And it was one-night-stand. 57 00:04:26,251 --> 00:04:27,917 In those days to be pregnant 58 00:04:28,084 --> 00:04:31,376 and young and you're not married was awful. 59 00:04:33,542 --> 00:04:36,167 Rick was born and she just went to Canada. 60 00:04:41,751 --> 00:04:44,751 If Rose and Jack hadn't have taken him on, 61 00:04:44,917 --> 00:04:46,876 I don't know what would have happened to him. 62 00:04:47,042 --> 00:04:48,042 I really don't. 63 00:04:59,834 --> 00:05:01,084 I felt hurt. 64 00:05:01,459 --> 00:05:03,001 Very, very upset. 65 00:05:04,084 --> 00:05:05,876 At that point I mistrusted everybody 66 00:05:06,042 --> 00:05:07,501 including my grandparents. 67 00:05:08,542 --> 00:05:09,959 I was so confused. 68 00:05:10,126 --> 00:05:13,292 It seemed to me that my life had been a lie. 69 00:05:19,584 --> 00:05:20,917 Hello, children everywhere. 70 00:05:21,084 --> 00:05:23,417 This is Uncle Mac. Good morning, to you all. 71 00:05:23,584 --> 00:05:25,251 Here in London on Saturday. 72 00:05:25,417 --> 00:05:28,334 Uncle Mac was on the radio on Saturday morning. 73 00:05:29,626 --> 00:05:32,709 And he would play a variety of music for kids. 74 00:05:34,209 --> 00:05:35,834 How Much Is That Doggie In The Window? 75 00:05:36,001 --> 00:05:38,251 All those kind of novelty things he would play. 76 00:05:38,417 --> 00:05:40,334 And then, every now and then, 77 00:05:40,501 --> 00:05:42,292 he'd play some different music. 78 00:05:51,959 --> 00:05:54,042 You didn't hear that anywhere else. 79 00:05:54,209 --> 00:05:56,084 Except on this kiddie's program. 80 00:05:56,917 --> 00:06:00,126 And I thought, "Oh, man, this is for me." 81 00:06:13,042 --> 00:06:15,251 I didn't even know that it was black music. 82 00:06:15,792 --> 00:06:18,584 I didn't know about black and white being different stuff. 83 00:06:20,001 --> 00:06:21,834 But something about it got me. 84 00:06:22,042 --> 00:06:23,459 Something stirred me. 85 00:06:24,542 --> 00:06:26,459 Without me even being aware of it. 86 00:06:26,626 --> 00:06:28,167 It took all the pain away. 87 00:06:31,334 --> 00:06:33,959 Well, obviously when I got to the age to buy records, 88 00:06:34,417 --> 00:06:35,584 I went and bought them. 89 00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:52,459 He keep on going that he wanted a guitar, so... 90 00:06:52,917 --> 00:06:54,876 We bought him his acoustic. 91 00:06:55,251 --> 00:06:57,209 Then he really got into it. 92 00:07:01,084 --> 00:07:02,459 I could get the record player 93 00:07:02,626 --> 00:07:04,417 down to the level that was right 94 00:07:04,792 --> 00:07:06,084 and play along 95 00:07:06,709 --> 00:07:08,001 to my heart's content. 96 00:07:09,001 --> 00:07:09,959 Non-stop. 97 00:07:12,251 --> 00:07:13,876 I used to suffer agonies and that. 98 00:07:14,042 --> 00:07:16,876 At three o'clock in the morning, you know, he'd be playing 99 00:07:17,042 --> 00:07:19,917 Big Bill Broonzy and all those sort of records, you know, 100 00:07:20,084 --> 00:07:22,292 and trying to copy them. 101 00:07:22,459 --> 00:07:24,876 I mean, he had to go to school the next day, ain't it? 102 00:07:25,834 --> 00:07:28,417 It used to be, "Are you coming to bed?" 103 00:07:28,584 --> 00:07:31,167 At three o'clock in the morning. It used to be terrible. 104 00:07:35,792 --> 00:07:37,126 It was always one man 105 00:07:38,292 --> 00:07:40,167 with his guitar versus the world. 106 00:07:41,334 --> 00:07:43,376 He was completely alone and 107 00:07:43,959 --> 00:07:47,376 had no options other than to just sing and play 108 00:07:47,876 --> 00:07:49,209 to ease his pain. 109 00:07:49,959 --> 00:07:51,501 And that echoed what I felt. 110 00:07:54,542 --> 00:07:56,501 So, more and more and more and more, 111 00:07:56,667 --> 00:07:58,042 I wanted to be like that. 112 00:08:11,126 --> 00:08:14,501 I enrolled in Kingston School of Art when I was 15. 113 00:08:15,209 --> 00:08:17,876 And I was really gripped by the experience 114 00:08:18,042 --> 00:08:20,167 of getting involved in a life in the arts. 115 00:08:24,792 --> 00:08:27,084 I wanted to know about French literature. 116 00:08:27,251 --> 00:08:30,167 I wanted to know about French cinema, Japanese cinema. 117 00:08:31,709 --> 00:08:32,751 I read Baudelaire. 118 00:08:32,917 --> 00:08:36,126 I read Kerouac, Ginsberg and Steinbeck. 119 00:08:37,584 --> 00:08:40,584 But I was absolutely addicted to blues. 120 00:08:41,417 --> 00:08:42,626 Totally obsessed. 121 00:08:44,417 --> 00:08:46,209 I had a record collection. 122 00:08:46,376 --> 00:08:48,042 And I was skiving off a lot 123 00:08:48,209 --> 00:08:51,626 going to try and find imports in jazz record stores. 124 00:08:51,792 --> 00:08:53,459 Muddy Waters, B. B King, 125 00:08:53,626 --> 00:08:55,209 Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley. 126 00:09:24,001 --> 00:09:26,876 There seemed to be nobody that I could talk to, 127 00:09:27,042 --> 00:09:28,501 would have any interest in this. 128 00:09:28,876 --> 00:09:31,251 You had to travel miles to find another person. 129 00:09:31,876 --> 00:09:33,709 We used to meet up at the Marquee Club 130 00:09:33,876 --> 00:09:35,251 up in Oxford Street. 131 00:09:35,751 --> 00:09:37,751 The blues night was a Thursday night. 132 00:09:37,917 --> 00:09:40,417 And you would meet like minds there and just dance. 133 00:09:41,584 --> 00:09:44,209 I met Mick and Keith and Brian over there. 134 00:09:44,667 --> 00:09:46,959 They were just part of this crew that would go there. 135 00:10:01,334 --> 00:10:03,959 And so blues music led me to the friends 136 00:10:04,126 --> 00:10:05,292 that I was gonna have. 137 00:10:22,001 --> 00:10:24,792 In those days, there was very little interest in the blues. 138 00:10:25,876 --> 00:10:28,584 It wasn't popular music in this country at all. 139 00:10:30,709 --> 00:10:33,376 I was one of those snobby purist people. 140 00:10:33,792 --> 00:10:37,501 And I got very interested in a style of piano playing, 141 00:10:37,667 --> 00:10:41,084 played by Muddy Waters' pianist, Otis Spann. 142 00:10:41,626 --> 00:10:44,751 I thought well, this music belongs in a band, really. 143 00:10:44,917 --> 00:10:47,167 So, I advertised in the Melody Maker. 144 00:10:47,334 --> 00:10:49,251 This bass player got in touch with me. 145 00:10:49,417 --> 00:10:51,751 Well, he said, "If only we could find a guitar player. 146 00:10:51,917 --> 00:10:54,584 We could really start to get this music working together." 147 00:11:03,667 --> 00:11:05,376 We hired a room in a pub with a piano 148 00:11:05,542 --> 00:11:08,917 and this little fellow walked in the door with a guitar. 149 00:11:09,084 --> 00:11:10,626 He was about 17. 150 00:11:20,667 --> 00:11:23,459 It was instantly clear that he had a tremendous gift 151 00:11:23,626 --> 00:11:26,251 and had worked really hard to develop it. 152 00:11:27,667 --> 00:11:29,376 We couldn't believe how good he was. 153 00:11:34,584 --> 00:11:37,042 It was a very small outfit with no equipment. 154 00:11:37,209 --> 00:11:38,751 We all went through one amplifier. 155 00:11:38,917 --> 00:11:40,709 Vocals, guitars and everything. 156 00:11:41,251 --> 00:11:43,501 We did more rehearsing than playing. 157 00:11:43,667 --> 00:11:44,751 But it was fun. 158 00:11:52,126 --> 00:11:54,292 Ben was the person I knew, 159 00:11:54,459 --> 00:11:57,376 from the minute I met him was a serious guy. 160 00:11:57,959 --> 00:11:59,542 And he was a great piano player. 161 00:12:00,959 --> 00:12:03,084 He was a deep inspiration for me. 162 00:12:03,542 --> 00:12:05,209 And a kind of father figure too. 163 00:12:07,459 --> 00:12:10,792 I thought Eric had an obsessive interest in music. 164 00:12:10,959 --> 00:12:13,792 I thought it was the very core of his being, really. 165 00:12:14,751 --> 00:12:17,334 He was very friendly but very private too. 166 00:12:17,834 --> 00:12:20,917 And he tended to form very close relationships 167 00:12:21,084 --> 00:12:23,917 with people suddenly, none of which ever lasted 168 00:12:24,084 --> 00:12:25,209 for any length of time. 169 00:12:26,834 --> 00:12:28,751 Anyway, Eric decided he was 170 00:12:28,917 --> 00:12:30,501 going to be a professional musician 171 00:12:30,667 --> 00:12:32,584 and so he had to make a career move. 172 00:12:33,751 --> 00:12:36,292 Ten, nine, eight... 173 00:12:36,709 --> 00:12:39,251 All right, take one now. When you're ready. 174 00:12:39,417 --> 00:12:41,626 Four, three, two... 175 00:13:13,084 --> 00:13:15,042 We had been working pretty regularly 176 00:13:15,209 --> 00:13:17,584 and we'd lost our lead guitar player. 177 00:13:19,001 --> 00:13:21,876 Eric was in the same college as we were. 178 00:13:22,959 --> 00:13:25,584 We were one of the few southern British blues bands. 179 00:13:26,209 --> 00:13:28,876 So he joined the band sort of, immediately. 180 00:13:36,876 --> 00:13:38,917 We did a weekly gig on a Sunday night 181 00:13:39,084 --> 00:13:41,251 at a place called the Crawdaddy Club in Richmond. 182 00:13:41,626 --> 00:13:43,792 It was like a party. Everyone would get together 183 00:13:43,959 --> 00:13:45,209 and just go mad. 184 00:13:46,209 --> 00:13:48,501 And I developed a little following amongst these people 185 00:13:48,667 --> 00:13:50,667 and I knew that there were certain ways that I could 186 00:13:50,834 --> 00:13:51,917 get them going. 187 00:14:00,834 --> 00:14:02,876 He had his own group of followers that used to stand 188 00:14:03,042 --> 00:14:04,709 right in front of him on the stage. 189 00:14:04,876 --> 00:14:06,167 The Clapton clique. 190 00:14:07,251 --> 00:14:08,626 Usually everyone would 191 00:14:08,792 --> 00:14:11,251 go for the lead singer but it was different in our band. 192 00:14:11,834 --> 00:14:14,126 It spread and it became a fan base. 193 00:15:00,084 --> 00:15:01,834 It's great, you know, it's good fun. 194 00:15:02,001 --> 00:15:04,251 There's lots of people all comin' in, which is nice. 195 00:15:04,417 --> 00:15:05,917 And we're having a good time, you know, 196 00:15:06,084 --> 00:15:07,834 with Freddy and the Dreamers, 197 00:15:08,001 --> 00:15:10,167 and The Yardbirds and everybody. It's good. 198 00:15:11,084 --> 00:15:13,001 We were considered a good live act. 199 00:15:13,459 --> 00:15:15,584 We were asked to do The Beatles Christmas show. 200 00:15:16,126 --> 00:15:17,959 And we thought they were wankers. 201 00:15:18,792 --> 00:15:20,459 But I got on with George very well 202 00:15:20,626 --> 00:15:22,209 because he was a guitar player. 203 00:15:24,417 --> 00:15:26,292 We were both in bands 204 00:15:26,792 --> 00:15:30,292 and we did a Christmas season in the Hammersmith Odeon 205 00:15:30,667 --> 00:15:32,709 together and Eric was in The Yardbirds. 206 00:15:33,417 --> 00:15:34,667 And we met then. 207 00:15:46,126 --> 00:15:47,584 So people that came to see Yardbirds 208 00:15:47,751 --> 00:15:49,084 were really into the music. 209 00:15:50,417 --> 00:15:51,709 When The Beatles came on, 210 00:15:52,167 --> 00:15:54,792 they'd just start screaming so that you couldn't actually 211 00:15:54,959 --> 00:15:56,667 hear anything but the screaming. 212 00:15:58,792 --> 00:16:00,917 We would watch from the wings 213 00:16:01,417 --> 00:16:05,542 and I would see how pointless these guys thought it all was. 214 00:16:05,709 --> 00:16:06,584 Already. 215 00:16:10,542 --> 00:16:13,542 George was clearly an innovator. 216 00:16:14,334 --> 00:16:15,751 But the sad part was 217 00:16:16,376 --> 00:16:17,584 that no one listened. 218 00:16:18,876 --> 00:16:21,251 And I thought The Yardbirds had real understanding 219 00:16:21,417 --> 00:16:23,084 about what it was really all about. 220 00:16:23,959 --> 00:16:25,459 And it wasn't about being famous 221 00:16:25,626 --> 00:16:27,417 or getting on TV or having a hit. 222 00:16:35,792 --> 00:16:37,209 ...but we're running anyway. 223 00:16:37,459 --> 00:16:38,209 OK. 224 00:16:50,209 --> 00:16:52,084 Jim, Keith and myself 225 00:16:52,251 --> 00:16:54,792 started to have many ideas about areas of music 226 00:16:54,959 --> 00:16:56,417 we wanted to pursue. 227 00:16:57,126 --> 00:16:59,126 And when the music publisher came along 228 00:16:59,292 --> 00:17:01,167 with the song For Your Love, 229 00:17:01,792 --> 00:17:03,626 it just felt absolutely right. 230 00:17:09,126 --> 00:17:10,251 It was pop. 231 00:17:10,834 --> 00:17:13,126 All the material we were doing was blues music 232 00:17:13,292 --> 00:17:16,417 which hadn't even properly filtered through 233 00:17:16,584 --> 00:17:18,084 to the mainstream here. 234 00:17:18,542 --> 00:17:20,376 So we were pioneering something. 235 00:17:21,876 --> 00:17:25,417 I noticed they were deliberately growing Beatles haircuts. 236 00:17:26,001 --> 00:17:28,084 I thought we've sold out. I've sold out. 237 00:17:28,542 --> 00:17:29,792 I've gotta get out of here. 238 00:17:33,126 --> 00:17:34,501 Eric played on the studio sessions 239 00:17:34,667 --> 00:17:36,084 for For Your Love. 240 00:17:36,251 --> 00:17:37,876 And then immediately left. 241 00:17:38,459 --> 00:17:40,834 We had this massive record suddenly 242 00:17:41,042 --> 00:17:43,417 and no lead guitar player. 243 00:17:48,376 --> 00:17:51,834 I was so disheartened by the music business, 244 00:17:52,709 --> 00:17:55,209 because it seemed to me that everywhere I looked 245 00:17:55,376 --> 00:17:56,876 everyone was on the make. 246 00:17:58,084 --> 00:18:00,292 I think I was probably a nasty piece of work 247 00:18:00,459 --> 00:18:02,792 to have around, you know, if you were tryin' to launch 248 00:18:02,959 --> 00:18:04,667 into the successful music world. 249 00:18:15,084 --> 00:18:17,542 Eric came to my house in Oxford. 250 00:18:18,334 --> 00:18:21,126 I was living on my own so, it was a one to one thing. 251 00:18:21,292 --> 00:18:22,667 And we just talked. 252 00:18:24,417 --> 00:18:26,251 I wanted his advice on what to do 253 00:18:26,417 --> 00:18:30,292 because I liked playing the guitar and I love blues music. 254 00:18:30,876 --> 00:18:33,126 But I thought I was gonna give up everything. 255 00:18:34,751 --> 00:18:36,751 And I stayed with him for about two weeks 256 00:18:36,917 --> 00:18:38,376 and watched him carve. 257 00:18:41,084 --> 00:18:43,251 We both have pretty dysfunctional families. 258 00:18:44,334 --> 00:18:47,167 And we would sort of sit and talk about these things. 259 00:18:50,542 --> 00:18:53,667 And I thought his interest in his music was so obsessive 260 00:18:53,834 --> 00:18:55,792 that he didn't really have a choice about what he was 261 00:18:55,959 --> 00:18:56,959 doing with his time. 262 00:18:57,126 --> 00:18:59,209 He just had to go where it was best to go. 263 00:19:00,417 --> 00:19:02,667 I'm sure it's been with him all his life. 264 00:19:06,042 --> 00:19:08,667 And while I was there someone tracked me down. 265 00:19:08,834 --> 00:19:10,126 And it was John Mayall. 266 00:19:19,376 --> 00:19:21,376 Thanks, Bu. And before we run out of time, 267 00:19:21,542 --> 00:19:24,501 I think it's about time we learn to do the Crocodile Walk, 268 00:19:24,667 --> 00:19:26,667 with Johnny Mayall and the Bluesbreakers. 269 00:19:35,251 --> 00:19:37,126 We're gonna get on a show with him. 270 00:19:51,876 --> 00:19:53,209 Look at those dancers! 271 00:20:03,959 --> 00:20:05,834 I think, that's his new guitar player. 272 00:20:06,001 --> 00:20:07,001 It's quite a new thing. 273 00:20:17,501 --> 00:20:18,334 God! 274 00:20:25,584 --> 00:20:26,501 Wow! 275 00:20:32,542 --> 00:20:35,292 When it came to blues there was nobody like him. 276 00:20:35,876 --> 00:20:37,251 Eric was that special. 277 00:20:38,376 --> 00:20:40,667 He knew the history of it. The background of it. 278 00:20:40,834 --> 00:20:42,917 And he had the emotional feel for it. 279 00:20:43,667 --> 00:20:45,626 And the technique to express it. 280 00:20:46,584 --> 00:20:49,792 He was given this freedom to let loose. 281 00:20:59,126 --> 00:21:02,209 Eric, how much do you think that his influence 282 00:21:02,376 --> 00:21:04,876 helped blues based bands? 283 00:21:05,042 --> 00:21:06,417 If you're gonna take it back to the roots 284 00:21:06,584 --> 00:21:08,167 it's between him and Alexis Korner. 285 00:21:08,334 --> 00:21:11,334 They're the ones that started actually physically playin' it. 286 00:21:11,501 --> 00:21:13,876 And there were lots of people that collected old blues records 287 00:21:14,042 --> 00:21:15,334 but that didn't play. 288 00:21:16,251 --> 00:21:18,542 But he worked in the clubs playing it. 289 00:21:18,709 --> 00:21:21,001 I mean, he's responsible for the whole thing, really. 290 00:21:24,251 --> 00:21:25,709 The minute I got into that band 291 00:21:25,876 --> 00:21:28,709 I joined a working schedule I'd never seen before. 292 00:21:28,876 --> 00:21:30,959 We worked seven nights a week. 293 00:21:31,126 --> 00:21:32,542 We played every night. 294 00:21:34,751 --> 00:21:36,417 The Twisted Wheel in Manchester. 295 00:21:36,584 --> 00:21:38,084 The Mojo in Sheffield. 296 00:21:38,251 --> 00:21:39,876 The Boathouse in Nottingham. 297 00:21:40,042 --> 00:21:41,834 The Club a'Gogo in Newcastle. 298 00:21:45,167 --> 00:21:47,792 I still had no idea how you talk to girls. 299 00:21:48,251 --> 00:21:49,542 I was very shy. 300 00:21:50,459 --> 00:21:53,459 And then suddenly I was dating, picking up girls. 301 00:21:54,209 --> 00:21:55,626 It was like a girl in every gig. 302 00:21:57,667 --> 00:22:00,834 Eric lived in Ripley and he didn't have transport. 303 00:22:01,001 --> 00:22:02,667 So it became a matter of convenience 304 00:22:02,834 --> 00:22:04,376 that he'd stay at our house. 305 00:22:05,084 --> 00:22:07,876 There was a spare room. So he moved in there. 306 00:22:10,376 --> 00:22:11,542 I had the family, you know, 307 00:22:11,709 --> 00:22:13,417 so he was living in the family house. 308 00:22:13,584 --> 00:22:15,251 So it was very suburban. 309 00:22:15,417 --> 00:22:18,667 The regular life with the mum and dad and three children. 310 00:22:19,417 --> 00:22:21,001 At night we did the gigs. 311 00:22:22,459 --> 00:22:23,501 He was very cool. 312 00:22:23,667 --> 00:22:25,209 He had an incredible collection of records 313 00:22:25,376 --> 00:22:28,542 that I listened to all day long. For about a year, 314 00:22:29,251 --> 00:22:31,709 I just would put on records and play along with them. 315 00:22:31,876 --> 00:22:33,209 and I went at it. 316 00:22:38,334 --> 00:22:41,584 A lot of my influences around that time 317 00:22:41,751 --> 00:22:45,042 weren't just guitar players, they were other singers 318 00:22:46,917 --> 00:22:48,501 and also Indian music. 319 00:22:49,126 --> 00:22:51,376 I listened to Bismillah Khan a lot. 320 00:22:52,376 --> 00:22:55,626 I wanted my guitar to sound like his reed instrument. 321 00:23:26,251 --> 00:23:27,709 One of the biggest influences 322 00:23:27,876 --> 00:23:29,584 on what I wanted to achieve 323 00:23:30,167 --> 00:23:32,167 with a guitar was Little Walter. 324 00:23:32,834 --> 00:23:34,626 The sound he made with the harmonica, 325 00:23:35,209 --> 00:23:36,584 playing through an amplifier. 326 00:23:37,417 --> 00:23:38,792 And it was thick and fat. 327 00:23:39,542 --> 00:23:40,584 Very melodic. 328 00:23:43,501 --> 00:23:46,001 I had been wandering into music shops 329 00:23:46,167 --> 00:23:47,501 in the west end of London. 330 00:23:47,959 --> 00:23:49,417 And plugging a guitar in. 331 00:23:49,584 --> 00:23:51,251 I'd try that guitar with that amp. 332 00:23:52,376 --> 00:23:55,334 And I found this amp way out in West London 333 00:23:55,959 --> 00:23:57,292 and it was perfect. 334 00:23:57,459 --> 00:23:59,459 It was an absolutely perfect sound. 335 00:24:48,251 --> 00:24:50,001 He showed up with that guitar and that amp 336 00:24:50,167 --> 00:24:54,417 and immediately people started to idolize what he was doing. 337 00:24:57,501 --> 00:25:00,084 And to certain extent that's what bugged him the most. 338 00:25:00,751 --> 00:25:02,917 He didn't want to be looked at and inspected. 339 00:25:04,084 --> 00:25:06,709 He just wanted to play the way he wanted to play 340 00:25:06,876 --> 00:25:07,917 and leave him alone. 341 00:25:17,917 --> 00:25:20,459 Now, from the time that you left The Yardbirds 342 00:25:20,626 --> 00:25:23,376 and joined up with John Mayall and company, 343 00:25:24,667 --> 00:25:27,126 your head seemed to change tremendously as far as 344 00:25:27,626 --> 00:25:29,042 your music was concerned. 345 00:25:29,209 --> 00:25:31,167 What kind of things were happening to your head then? 346 00:25:31,334 --> 00:25:33,917 Well, I really didn't change as much as you probably think 347 00:25:34,084 --> 00:25:37,959 because it's not really an individual change. 348 00:25:38,126 --> 00:25:40,001 It was just put into a different context. 349 00:25:40,167 --> 00:25:41,792 So, I mean, the things that I was doing 350 00:25:41,959 --> 00:25:43,501 reflected differently, you know. 351 00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:44,667 I mean the... 352 00:25:44,834 --> 00:25:47,334 The context of The Yardbirds as opposed to John Mayall 353 00:25:47,501 --> 00:25:49,709 is totally different. One is pop and one is... 354 00:25:49,876 --> 00:25:52,959 Was then even more earthier blues than it is now, 355 00:25:53,126 --> 00:25:54,501 the stuff you played then. 356 00:25:54,917 --> 00:25:57,834 And you know, I just played the same things 357 00:25:58,001 --> 00:25:59,501 but they just sounded different. 358 00:26:01,209 --> 00:26:03,459 One more. Take three. 359 00:26:12,292 --> 00:26:14,334 We had been on the road for long enough 360 00:26:14,501 --> 00:26:16,126 to go in and just play our set. 361 00:26:17,167 --> 00:26:19,459 But at that period there were technicians 362 00:26:19,626 --> 00:26:21,001 doing the recording 363 00:26:21,584 --> 00:26:23,667 that just came up to your amp with a microphone, 364 00:26:23,834 --> 00:26:26,626 stuck it two inches away from the front of the amplifier. 365 00:26:29,417 --> 00:26:31,417 It seemed to me that if you wanted to get 366 00:26:31,584 --> 00:26:33,959 the atmosphere that we were getting in the clubs, 367 00:26:34,126 --> 00:26:36,792 you needed for it to sound like you were in the audience. 368 00:26:36,959 --> 00:26:39,376 Ten feet away. Not three inches. 369 00:26:42,667 --> 00:26:44,792 And so when the guy did that 370 00:26:45,292 --> 00:26:47,417 on that day that we went in to record, 371 00:26:47,751 --> 00:26:49,792 I said, "Excuse me, I don't want it there." 372 00:26:50,417 --> 00:26:51,626 "Put it over there." 373 00:26:52,167 --> 00:26:54,751 He said, " Well, you're making our job really difficult." 374 00:26:54,917 --> 00:26:58,542 And I said, "I don't care, that's the way I want it." 375 00:27:06,501 --> 00:27:09,042 With Eric playing at the sort of volume he was playing, 376 00:27:09,209 --> 00:27:10,792 there was no way that anyone could deal with it. 377 00:27:10,959 --> 00:27:13,042 They didn't know what to do. So we had to find a way 378 00:27:13,209 --> 00:27:14,084 to deal with it. 379 00:27:15,251 --> 00:27:18,126 That was the most exciting part of the project 380 00:27:18,292 --> 00:27:20,209 because when we found how to deal with it, 381 00:27:20,376 --> 00:27:21,542 we had the sound. 382 00:28:18,501 --> 00:28:19,959 That changed everything. 383 00:28:21,376 --> 00:28:23,917 Before Eric, guitar playing in England had been 384 00:28:24,084 --> 00:28:25,751 Hank Marvin and The Shadows. 385 00:28:26,209 --> 00:28:29,042 Very, very simple, not much technique. 386 00:28:31,042 --> 00:28:33,876 Suddenly we heard something that was completely different. 387 00:28:34,042 --> 00:28:36,959 The record sounded unlike anything that any of us 388 00:28:37,126 --> 00:28:39,667 had ever heard before, it was completely revolutionary. 389 00:28:45,917 --> 00:28:48,501 Eric, now that blues have started to emerge 390 00:28:48,667 --> 00:28:51,376 as a really very powerful force on the pop scene. 391 00:28:51,542 --> 00:28:53,501 And everyone's latching on to it even though 392 00:28:53,667 --> 00:28:56,001 they don't necessarily understand the music. 393 00:28:56,209 --> 00:28:57,792 Now, do you think this is a bad thing? 394 00:28:57,959 --> 00:29:02,417 No, you see, what will happen is that after a long time, 395 00:29:02,584 --> 00:29:05,084 they will become so well educated musically 396 00:29:05,792 --> 00:29:08,751 that they'll be able to dig spades singing the blues 397 00:29:08,917 --> 00:29:12,042 instead of having to take watered down imitations. 398 00:29:12,209 --> 00:29:13,917 They won't have to accept that any more 399 00:29:14,084 --> 00:29:16,126 because they'll be free thinking enough 400 00:29:16,292 --> 00:29:19,084 to be able to look at a colored man and dig him 401 00:29:19,251 --> 00:29:21,626 without having any hang ups. You know? 402 00:29:21,792 --> 00:29:24,751 And then all the white guys are gonna have to find 403 00:29:24,917 --> 00:29:26,084 something their own to play, 404 00:29:26,251 --> 00:29:27,876 that's good enough to stand up to it 405 00:29:28,042 --> 00:29:30,667 because they won't be accepted, they'll be rejected. 406 00:29:31,167 --> 00:29:32,792 There won't be any white blues bands, 407 00:29:32,959 --> 00:29:33,876 it couldn't happen. 408 00:29:35,459 --> 00:29:37,209 What is it you think about the music that draws 409 00:29:37,376 --> 00:29:38,626 young white kids to it? 410 00:29:38,834 --> 00:29:40,084 Now, you mentioned the fact that, 411 00:29:40,251 --> 00:29:41,459 groups like The Rolling Stones 412 00:29:41,626 --> 00:29:43,084 have turned them on to the music. 413 00:29:43,251 --> 00:29:46,459 I think white kids really love a beautiful sound. 414 00:29:46,626 --> 00:29:47,876 That deep tone. 415 00:29:48,126 --> 00:29:49,751 Then even white kids sing the blues. 416 00:29:49,917 --> 00:29:53,417 They can play more blues than I can ever dream of playing. 417 00:29:53,584 --> 00:29:55,376 But you know, they'll never be able to vocal like me, 418 00:29:55,542 --> 00:29:56,459 you know that. 419 00:29:57,542 --> 00:29:59,209 And I'm singing that out to the church 420 00:29:59,376 --> 00:30:01,084 and got that big tone, I guess that's why 421 00:30:01,251 --> 00:30:04,042 the white kids come to see me so often. 422 00:30:04,584 --> 00:30:07,917 Does it have something to do with the feeling that... 423 00:30:08,084 --> 00:30:09,834 That's what I'm saying, that tone is the feeling, 424 00:30:10,001 --> 00:30:11,626 you got the feeling in there, for those kids. 425 00:30:11,792 --> 00:30:13,501 And there's no way you can counterfeit that? 426 00:30:13,667 --> 00:30:15,042 You can't counterfeit that. 427 00:30:15,209 --> 00:30:16,584 You mean, in other words... 428 00:30:16,751 --> 00:30:18,584 The young kids can learn to play a guitar that way 429 00:30:18,751 --> 00:30:20,126 but they can't learn to sing that way? 430 00:30:20,292 --> 00:30:21,167 Like me? 431 00:30:21,667 --> 00:30:23,001 - You mean, white kids? - Yeah. 432 00:30:23,167 --> 00:30:24,209 Oh, no. 433 00:30:24,376 --> 00:30:26,167 - You know better than that. - Why is that? 434 00:30:26,334 --> 00:30:28,334 They ain't got enough soul 435 00:30:28,501 --> 00:30:30,084 and they didn't have enough hard times. 436 00:30:34,001 --> 00:30:35,709 I came around to Jones' house one day 437 00:30:35,876 --> 00:30:37,209 and he'd been out in the garden reading 438 00:30:37,376 --> 00:30:39,292 The Melody Maker and he was furious. 439 00:30:40,042 --> 00:30:43,792 And he said, "Eric's rehearsing with a band in some church." 440 00:30:44,667 --> 00:30:45,876 And I said, "Oh, is he?" 441 00:30:46,917 --> 00:30:48,584 All of a sudden, there it was. 442 00:30:48,751 --> 00:30:50,584 There was this new group that's gonna be 443 00:30:51,292 --> 00:30:53,959 making its debut somewhere and that was it. 444 00:30:54,167 --> 00:30:55,334 It was very sudden. 445 00:30:56,459 --> 00:30:57,626 Total lunatic. 446 00:30:57,834 --> 00:30:59,334 Just said he's gonna quit. 447 00:31:14,417 --> 00:31:16,626 I wanted to be a blues trio. 448 00:31:17,251 --> 00:31:18,959 Fusing jazz and rock. 449 00:31:20,084 --> 00:31:21,876 It was just a thing where 450 00:31:22,042 --> 00:31:24,209 the three of us liked one another's playing 451 00:31:24,376 --> 00:31:25,834 and we decided to do it. 452 00:32:50,626 --> 00:32:52,334 It's so lovely now, I kissed Eric Clapton. 453 00:32:52,501 --> 00:32:54,001 I kissed him right on the lips. 454 00:32:54,626 --> 00:32:57,209 I kissed the fairest soul-brother in England. 455 00:32:59,501 --> 00:33:00,709 See right now man? 456 00:33:00,876 --> 00:33:02,876 Right now we're stoned completely out of our minds. 457 00:33:03,042 --> 00:33:05,501 And I find out, even when I get sober, 458 00:33:05,667 --> 00:33:09,084 I find out that I tell more of the truth on my own self, man 459 00:33:09,251 --> 00:33:11,751 when I am like this than I am when I'm sober. 460 00:33:12,251 --> 00:33:14,251 What you're going through now, you know, 461 00:33:14,417 --> 00:33:16,417 might in actual fact, without you knowing it 462 00:33:16,584 --> 00:33:17,959 just be a phase. 463 00:33:18,167 --> 00:33:20,542 Your set of values now might not exist 464 00:33:20,709 --> 00:33:23,709 in any way in the next two years 465 00:33:23,876 --> 00:33:25,542 they might change so completely. 466 00:33:25,709 --> 00:33:27,084 Oh, beautiful. 467 00:33:28,501 --> 00:33:30,292 The first time I saw Jimi, I think 468 00:33:30,459 --> 00:33:32,584 it was a gig we did in London 469 00:33:33,084 --> 00:33:36,292 and I saw him a couple of times at the speakeasy. 470 00:33:36,792 --> 00:33:40,334 He used to come around to the flat a lot and stay there. 471 00:33:40,751 --> 00:33:42,251 We had a great time really. 472 00:33:42,417 --> 00:33:46,334 He was so shy, and quiet, withdrawn and gentle. 473 00:33:48,251 --> 00:33:51,626 We talk about every day kind of ambitions, you know? 474 00:33:51,792 --> 00:33:53,542 And the way we want the world to be 475 00:33:53,709 --> 00:33:56,876 but the conversation never stayed that way for very long. 476 00:33:57,084 --> 00:33:59,792 'Cause Jimi had such a surreal mind. 477 00:33:59,959 --> 00:34:02,959 Once you start going talking about anything. 478 00:34:03,126 --> 00:34:05,501 You'd end up talking about flying saucers, you know? 479 00:34:05,667 --> 00:34:07,667 Sort of purple velvet moons. 480 00:34:07,834 --> 00:34:08,959 It's like. 481 00:34:09,542 --> 00:34:12,501 And you couldn't keep him on the ground for any length of time. 482 00:34:15,751 --> 00:34:19,876 You see, music and life itself go together so closely... 483 00:34:20,042 --> 00:34:22,334 it's sort of like a parallel that turns on. 484 00:34:22,501 --> 00:34:24,667 Music is nothing but imagination 485 00:34:24,834 --> 00:34:27,001 sent out from somebody's soul, man... 486 00:34:27,167 --> 00:34:30,376 sent out from somebody's real heart 487 00:34:31,084 --> 00:34:33,709 that they can only express through notes. 488 00:34:35,292 --> 00:34:36,917 The only thing you can give to anyone, 489 00:34:37,084 --> 00:34:39,417 like the only thing I can give to my darling Jimi here, 490 00:34:39,584 --> 00:34:40,501 is time. 491 00:34:58,292 --> 00:35:01,626 Eric came to my house in Oxford with Ginger 492 00:35:01,792 --> 00:35:03,626 and said he was forming Cream 493 00:35:03,792 --> 00:35:05,751 and would I like to go and work for them. 494 00:35:07,417 --> 00:35:10,334 I think he wanted somebody around who he knew. 495 00:35:12,167 --> 00:35:15,334 He was enjoying the new fruits of success hugely 496 00:35:15,501 --> 00:35:18,834 and the psychedelic musical adventure that was happening. 497 00:35:21,959 --> 00:35:24,792 Eric and Cream came to New York 498 00:35:25,376 --> 00:35:28,667 and they came to record in our studio. 499 00:35:30,292 --> 00:35:34,417 They played songs that are not absolutely 500 00:35:34,584 --> 00:35:39,042 in a 12 or eight bar form but have a blues feel. 501 00:35:40,084 --> 00:35:41,459 It's a new music. 502 00:35:42,042 --> 00:35:45,376 Especially when Eric played the guitar. 503 00:35:49,917 --> 00:35:51,376 When I walked into my studio, 504 00:35:51,542 --> 00:35:53,626 I had a bunch of English roadies setting up 505 00:35:53,792 --> 00:35:55,584 double stacks of Marshalls 506 00:35:56,084 --> 00:35:59,126 and double bass drums and double cymbal stands 507 00:35:59,292 --> 00:36:00,667 and so I just looked and I thought, 508 00:36:00,834 --> 00:36:02,084 "What, have I got two of everything?" 509 00:36:02,251 --> 00:36:03,751 I couldn't believe what I was looking at, 510 00:36:03,917 --> 00:36:05,167 it was just three men. 511 00:37:35,001 --> 00:37:37,292 What is the reaction to The Cream in England? 512 00:37:37,459 --> 00:37:40,042 Very good, very good, we're very popular there. 513 00:37:40,209 --> 00:37:44,417 Blues now, in England, is as big as any other kind of music. 514 00:37:46,292 --> 00:37:47,917 Whose work do you admire now? 515 00:37:48,084 --> 00:37:50,126 The greatest young guitarist on the scene at the moment 516 00:37:50,292 --> 00:37:51,751 is a guy by the name of Jimi Hendrix 517 00:37:51,917 --> 00:37:53,042 who comes from New York. 518 00:37:53,209 --> 00:37:54,292 He has his own group in England now 519 00:37:54,459 --> 00:37:56,084 called The Jimi Hendrix Experience 520 00:37:56,251 --> 00:37:57,959 which is a beautiful band, you know. 521 00:37:58,126 --> 00:38:00,876 He just plays blues things and he freaks out occasionally. 522 00:38:02,417 --> 00:38:06,334 And naturally I love BB King and Otis Rush, and Albert King. 523 00:38:06,751 --> 00:38:08,126 Do you ever think there will be a time 524 00:38:08,292 --> 00:38:09,709 when the authentic blues people 525 00:38:09,876 --> 00:38:11,834 can be accepted by the mass audiences? 526 00:38:12,001 --> 00:38:13,459 I think it's going to be a long time 527 00:38:13,626 --> 00:38:16,251 because it's so tightly linked in with the racial problem 528 00:38:16,417 --> 00:38:17,417 in America. 529 00:38:17,584 --> 00:38:19,126 For all the white people in America 530 00:38:19,292 --> 00:38:23,126 to acknowledge the success of an American blues musician 531 00:38:23,292 --> 00:38:26,292 is for them to completely accept the civil rights. 532 00:38:26,459 --> 00:38:27,584 It'll take a long time. 533 00:38:29,126 --> 00:38:31,834 We were recording in Atlantic Studios. 534 00:38:32,001 --> 00:38:34,584 We're sharing that workspace with Ray Charles, 535 00:38:34,834 --> 00:38:36,959 Aretha Franklin, Otis Redding 536 00:38:37,126 --> 00:38:41,209 and Wilson Pickett, so we were in their play room. 537 00:38:42,001 --> 00:38:44,209 A lot of the time, we were going out 538 00:38:44,376 --> 00:38:47,834 as Otis Redding was coming in or Aretha Franklin was coming, 539 00:38:48,001 --> 00:38:49,584 the sessions would overlap. 540 00:38:49,751 --> 00:38:51,501 And one day Ahmet said, 541 00:38:51,667 --> 00:38:53,167 "Well, would you like to play?" 542 00:38:53,334 --> 00:38:56,334 And I said, "Would I? You kidding?" 543 00:38:58,042 --> 00:38:59,584 - Okay. - Standby. 544 00:38:59,751 --> 00:39:01,501 I looked in and there was Joe South, 545 00:39:01,667 --> 00:39:03,209 Bobby Hinton, Bobby Womack. 546 00:39:03,376 --> 00:39:05,876 There were like five guitar players on the floor 547 00:39:06,834 --> 00:39:09,042 and Aretha on piano, singing. 548 00:39:10,709 --> 00:39:12,626 And I went in there with my permed hair 549 00:39:12,792 --> 00:39:15,376 and pink trousers, high-heeled boots. 550 00:39:15,542 --> 00:39:17,626 Looking like a freak from Mars 551 00:39:17,792 --> 00:39:20,501 and they looked at me like, "What's this?" 552 00:39:21,042 --> 00:39:22,792 And I sat down and played. 553 00:40:11,126 --> 00:40:14,584 Aretha Franklin started laughing when she saw Eric 554 00:40:14,751 --> 00:40:17,667 because he was wearing a psychedelic costume. 555 00:40:19,001 --> 00:40:23,167 But when Eric played the guitar, Aretha stopped laughing 556 00:40:23,334 --> 00:40:25,001 because it was the real thing. 557 00:40:49,459 --> 00:40:51,959 Man, that was it, I thought if that comes out. 558 00:40:52,126 --> 00:40:53,834 I don't have to do anything again. 559 00:41:14,001 --> 00:41:16,209 I had just arrived from Paris to be a model. 560 00:41:17,542 --> 00:41:20,376 When I met Eric, I didn't know who he was at all. 561 00:41:22,084 --> 00:41:25,501 He was a bit shy, he was a bit inhibited at first. 562 00:41:26,917 --> 00:41:29,209 But then we started going out together. 563 00:41:29,792 --> 00:41:33,001 And we pretty much moved in together very quickly. 564 00:41:36,917 --> 00:41:38,876 Charlotte was very funny 565 00:41:39,501 --> 00:41:41,459 and very, very open minded. 566 00:41:42,376 --> 00:41:44,001 We had a friendship. 567 00:41:44,667 --> 00:41:46,542 We just were comfortable together. 568 00:41:48,792 --> 00:41:53,667 She saw who I was for better or worse. 569 00:41:56,209 --> 00:41:59,209 I just started feeling like Alice in Wonderland. 570 00:42:00,251 --> 00:42:02,376 I was totally into the Beatles. 571 00:42:02,751 --> 00:42:05,209 The next minute, we were invited 572 00:42:05,376 --> 00:42:10,126 to take part of this special event by the Beatles. 573 00:42:10,751 --> 00:42:14,792 It was like, "Okay." You know, normal. 574 00:42:25,792 --> 00:42:27,626 When I moved into the Kings Road, 575 00:42:27,792 --> 00:42:31,626 George would drop by on his route home out to Esher. 576 00:42:34,042 --> 00:42:35,584 And I've been going to Esher a few times 577 00:42:35,751 --> 00:42:39,667 taking acid together, bit by bit, we were becoming friends. 578 00:44:04,626 --> 00:44:08,084 The audience there was so much more advanced. 579 00:44:08,542 --> 00:44:12,042 Cream very quickly realized, they could just open up. 580 00:44:13,167 --> 00:44:16,251 I mean they would play the same number for 40 minutes. 581 00:44:17,626 --> 00:44:19,542 Improvisation every night. 582 00:45:10,709 --> 00:45:13,626 And the audience couldn't have enough of it. 583 00:45:14,417 --> 00:45:16,917 It was exactly what they had wanted to hear 584 00:45:17,334 --> 00:45:18,834 and it had suddenly arrived. 585 00:47:19,542 --> 00:47:21,459 Many of these young players coming along today 586 00:47:21,626 --> 00:47:24,417 have been really turned on by the way you play the guitar. 587 00:47:25,709 --> 00:47:28,792 I'm grateful some of them seem to like me. 588 00:47:28,959 --> 00:47:30,959 I'm grateful because 589 00:47:31,584 --> 00:47:35,959 to me, it seemed to open a few doors for us 590 00:47:36,126 --> 00:47:39,876 that seemed like that was never gonna be open. 591 00:47:41,751 --> 00:47:45,334 Because until the days of rock 'n' roll a lot of times, 592 00:47:45,501 --> 00:47:48,501 a lot of the places, we... They just wouldn't accept us. 593 00:47:48,667 --> 00:47:51,126 I'm not speaking racially, 594 00:47:51,292 --> 00:47:53,084 I'm just talking about the people at the hall 595 00:47:53,251 --> 00:47:55,584 that just wouldn't accept us in some of the places that... 596 00:47:55,751 --> 00:47:57,751 The door's open now, that you can go into. 597 00:48:00,584 --> 00:48:03,251 B. B King played the joints for years. 598 00:48:03,417 --> 00:48:06,042 Otis Redding was a black R&B singer 599 00:48:06,209 --> 00:48:08,334 who played the southern route. 600 00:48:08,501 --> 00:48:11,334 And what rock n' roll or the popularity of rock n' roll 601 00:48:11,501 --> 00:48:14,417 has afforded us is the opportunity to use 602 00:48:14,584 --> 00:48:16,834 good rock n' roll as bait to bring the people in, 603 00:48:17,001 --> 00:48:19,042 but once they got it, to present them with 604 00:48:21,042 --> 00:48:23,376 some of the people who, were it not for them, 605 00:48:23,542 --> 00:48:24,876 there wouldn't be any rock n' roll. 606 00:48:27,917 --> 00:48:30,084 I was playing in New York City 607 00:48:30,251 --> 00:48:33,376 and I've been hearing about this young guitarist, 608 00:48:33,542 --> 00:48:35,084 the Cream and so on. 609 00:48:36,751 --> 00:48:38,251 I met this young man. 610 00:48:38,751 --> 00:48:42,459 Long hair and very quiet like. 611 00:48:43,292 --> 00:48:44,792 We had a jam session. 612 00:48:46,917 --> 00:48:49,834 Eric seemed to take time, it's like putting pieces 613 00:48:50,001 --> 00:48:51,167 in a puzzle. 614 00:48:51,334 --> 00:48:53,792 Like an old seasoned guy. 615 00:48:55,001 --> 00:48:57,376 It could sound good, but if you gonna play 616 00:48:57,542 --> 00:49:00,292 more than two or three notes, you need to have 617 00:49:00,459 --> 00:49:01,792 a story to tell. 618 00:49:02,626 --> 00:49:04,667 And he told me some very good ones. 619 00:49:07,167 --> 00:49:09,876 White America had never paid attention to blues. 620 00:49:10,417 --> 00:49:13,251 So thanks to Eric, really, it awakened. 621 00:49:14,042 --> 00:49:15,542 Started them listening. 622 00:49:15,709 --> 00:49:18,001 Now a lot of doors were opened for B. B. King 623 00:49:18,167 --> 00:49:19,751 and many other people like myself. 624 00:49:28,584 --> 00:49:30,917 They did like 300 shows a year. 625 00:49:31,542 --> 00:49:34,834 And had a huge, huge following 626 00:49:35,001 --> 00:49:37,334 based on their live performances. 627 00:49:37,917 --> 00:49:40,709 So at that time, Cream got to be 628 00:49:40,876 --> 00:49:42,834 the biggest band in the world. 629 00:49:43,376 --> 00:49:45,459 Much bigger than the Rolling Stones 630 00:49:45,626 --> 00:49:46,751 and the Beatles. 631 00:49:58,126 --> 00:49:59,626 Eric Clapton, please. 632 00:50:03,501 --> 00:50:06,292 When you're improvising, do you use stock phrases? 633 00:50:06,792 --> 00:50:09,459 Yeah, there are always phrases that I always play 634 00:50:09,626 --> 00:50:11,751 that are stock phrases that I work from you know, 635 00:50:11,917 --> 00:50:13,001 which are just like... 636 00:50:19,042 --> 00:50:20,584 All these runs. 637 00:50:20,751 --> 00:50:23,376 You know, I've put together from old phrases 638 00:50:23,542 --> 00:50:25,209 that I've first started on like... 639 00:50:29,417 --> 00:50:31,584 And then they're just kind of messed up 640 00:50:31,751 --> 00:50:33,917 with other things which I've learned like... 641 00:50:38,167 --> 00:50:39,542 If a guy likes playing football, 642 00:50:39,709 --> 00:50:41,417 then that's what he'll use to get... 643 00:50:41,792 --> 00:50:44,667 To get all of his, kind of, basic... 644 00:50:44,834 --> 00:50:46,834 Kind of, angry bits out of him, you know, 645 00:50:47,001 --> 00:50:48,917 that you build up through any day. 646 00:50:49,084 --> 00:50:51,001 You can just, someone is tooting the horn 647 00:50:51,167 --> 00:50:52,792 in the car behind you and you'll get angry 648 00:50:52,959 --> 00:50:54,459 and you have no release for it, you know? 649 00:50:54,876 --> 00:50:56,292 Well, that happens to everybody, 650 00:50:56,459 --> 00:50:58,876 but you know, I've got the advantage of being 651 00:50:59,042 --> 00:51:00,667 able to sort of play that out 652 00:51:01,501 --> 00:51:02,626 on the guitar. 653 00:51:02,792 --> 00:51:05,001 By being sort of... 654 00:51:05,167 --> 00:51:06,917 fairly aggressive in the way I'm playing, 655 00:51:07,084 --> 00:51:08,334 not the way I use it. 656 00:51:08,501 --> 00:51:11,167 That can be done too with people like The Who. 657 00:51:11,334 --> 00:51:12,667 Can you show us? 658 00:51:12,834 --> 00:51:14,167 What you mean, you want me to break the guitar up? 659 00:51:14,334 --> 00:51:15,167 Well, no, not quite, 660 00:51:15,334 --> 00:51:16,626 just an example of aggression in your music. 661 00:51:16,792 --> 00:51:17,626 Yeah, right. 662 00:51:49,251 --> 00:51:51,459 Eric wasn't the best communicator. 663 00:51:51,626 --> 00:51:54,001 There was a lot of unsaid things, you know, 664 00:51:54,167 --> 00:51:55,542 about where he was at. 665 00:51:56,709 --> 00:51:59,042 He enjoyed part of it very much. 666 00:51:59,584 --> 00:52:01,792 There was an aspect of being adored. 667 00:52:03,917 --> 00:52:06,084 But it was difficult to keep up. 668 00:52:06,917 --> 00:52:09,751 And to be on tour for months and months. 669 00:52:17,626 --> 00:52:20,751 There was constant, serious dispute 670 00:52:20,917 --> 00:52:23,459 between Jack and Ginger every day. 671 00:52:25,209 --> 00:52:27,959 It didn't matter to them what they were arguing about really. 672 00:52:28,626 --> 00:52:31,292 It was just, they were at each other's throats 673 00:52:32,209 --> 00:52:33,584 and it was very intense. 674 00:52:36,376 --> 00:52:37,709 We shut one another out, 675 00:52:37,876 --> 00:52:39,501 I mean I would just run away from one another. 676 00:52:39,667 --> 00:52:40,876 We never socialized. 677 00:52:41,042 --> 00:52:42,959 We never really shared ideas any more, 678 00:52:43,126 --> 00:52:45,459 we just got together on stage and played 679 00:52:45,626 --> 00:52:47,167 and then went out different ways. 680 00:52:48,417 --> 00:52:50,584 The whole thing was awful. 681 00:53:39,167 --> 00:53:41,626 Eric was picking up his guitar at home. 682 00:53:41,792 --> 00:53:43,959 And twanging on it non-stop. 683 00:53:45,334 --> 00:53:46,917 Which is not always the easiest thing 684 00:53:47,084 --> 00:53:49,501 when you're trying to have a conversation with somebody. 685 00:53:52,126 --> 00:53:55,126 I remember finding myself talking 686 00:53:55,292 --> 00:53:58,584 and I would get a riff from the guitar back, 687 00:53:58,751 --> 00:54:00,792 rather than proper communication. 688 00:54:07,709 --> 00:54:11,209 It was very hard to keep up on an emotional, personal level. 689 00:54:14,084 --> 00:54:15,834 You know, I'm in love with Eric. 690 00:54:16,751 --> 00:54:18,792 And then the world's in love with him. 691 00:54:19,917 --> 00:54:21,917 We just didn't talk about feelings. 692 00:54:22,834 --> 00:54:24,917 Eric just wouldn't go there. 693 00:54:28,209 --> 00:54:31,709 I always felt he was running away from something. 694 00:54:37,126 --> 00:54:39,501 He started going to George and Pattie's quite a lot 695 00:54:39,667 --> 00:54:41,209 when they lived in Surrey. 696 00:54:42,376 --> 00:54:44,042 When Cream broke up, I think spiritually, 697 00:54:44,209 --> 00:54:45,876 he was really rather bereft. 698 00:54:46,042 --> 00:54:48,459 And he enjoyed hanging out and played guitar 699 00:54:48,626 --> 00:54:50,209 and started writing all day. 700 00:54:52,834 --> 00:54:53,709 Yes? 701 00:54:53,876 --> 00:54:54,876 Start again. 702 00:54:55,042 --> 00:54:56,001 Okay. 703 00:54:56,167 --> 00:54:57,626 George said, "I'm going to do this song, 704 00:54:57,792 --> 00:54:58,751 "I want you to play the guitar." 705 00:54:58,917 --> 00:55:01,376 - How we doing there, George? - How we doing, Hal? 706 00:55:01,751 --> 00:55:04,084 We did maybe two or three takes, 707 00:55:04,251 --> 00:55:07,042 and there was a very few attempts at the song. 708 00:55:07,209 --> 00:55:08,042 Yes? 709 00:55:08,209 --> 00:55:09,667 Just start again. 710 00:55:09,834 --> 00:55:12,459 They were fast and furious, they were harsh judges. 711 00:56:39,126 --> 00:56:40,459 It was just one policeman. 712 00:56:40,626 --> 00:56:42,667 His name was Inspector Pilcher. 713 00:56:43,334 --> 00:56:45,001 He wanted to bust all of the people 714 00:56:45,167 --> 00:56:46,959 that were in the pop business for drugs. 715 00:56:47,751 --> 00:56:50,084 He ended up getting done for corruption. 716 00:56:52,167 --> 00:56:53,417 He busted George 717 00:56:53,584 --> 00:56:55,959 and the word was, he had planted dope. 718 00:56:58,126 --> 00:56:59,959 Ginger knew someone in the police force, 719 00:57:00,126 --> 00:57:02,751 who said I was on Pilcher's list. 720 00:57:04,709 --> 00:57:06,917 That night, the Pheasantry got raided 721 00:57:07,084 --> 00:57:09,084 and they planted hash everywhere. 722 00:57:11,417 --> 00:57:14,042 So I thought, well, I better get out of town. 723 00:57:28,792 --> 00:57:30,751 It was the first time I spent any money really, 724 00:57:30,917 --> 00:57:32,917 any of the money that I made with Cream. 725 00:57:33,584 --> 00:57:35,667 I never owned anything before. 726 00:57:35,834 --> 00:57:38,334 I mean, I'd been bumming around all my life 727 00:57:38,959 --> 00:57:41,667 from the day that I first left Ripley. 728 00:57:44,584 --> 00:57:46,126 I just fell in love with it. 729 00:57:46,292 --> 00:57:48,792 I had the most incredible feeling of coming home. 730 00:57:53,584 --> 00:57:56,251 Now, Eric had a house in Ewhurst 731 00:57:56,417 --> 00:57:58,084 which is just beyond Esher. 732 00:57:58,251 --> 00:57:59,834 So it's quite easy for the two of them 733 00:58:00,001 --> 00:58:01,584 to go to each other's houses. 734 00:58:02,751 --> 00:58:06,584 And it was just like a really nice friendship going on. 735 00:58:07,376 --> 00:58:10,792 George had a lot of respect for Eric's guitar playing. 736 00:58:11,542 --> 00:58:12,792 It was just four friends. 737 00:58:13,709 --> 00:58:15,084 We'd hang out together 738 00:58:15,251 --> 00:58:17,501 and we'd go to the restaurants and bars. 739 00:58:18,126 --> 00:58:20,417 He used to come over to the house quite a lot. 740 00:58:21,626 --> 00:58:23,334 Not always to see George. 741 00:58:25,876 --> 00:58:27,751 I think as time went on. 742 00:58:27,917 --> 00:58:30,834 You know how some people have that stare that's longer 743 00:58:31,001 --> 00:58:32,167 than it should be? 744 00:58:33,126 --> 00:58:34,959 And I caught a couple of those. 745 00:58:41,667 --> 00:58:43,167 I knew it was wrong. 746 00:58:45,251 --> 00:58:46,959 George was my best friend. 747 00:58:50,334 --> 00:58:52,959 But I felt a compulsion towards her. 748 00:58:53,959 --> 00:58:57,001 That she was probably the most desirable woman 749 00:58:57,167 --> 00:58:58,167 I had ever met. 750 00:59:00,501 --> 00:59:02,209 And even though, they were married, 751 00:59:02,376 --> 00:59:03,334 I wanted her. 752 00:59:04,917 --> 00:59:06,584 Even though she was unavailable 753 00:59:08,251 --> 00:59:09,501 and that frightened me. 754 00:59:14,667 --> 00:59:16,792 I felt there was a big confusion in his head 755 00:59:16,959 --> 00:59:20,042 about women and what they represented to him. 756 00:59:21,917 --> 00:59:25,001 It was so intense and he was so intense. 757 00:59:47,917 --> 00:59:50,834 It would have been OK, if my daughter hadn't come home. 758 00:59:52,209 --> 00:59:54,584 'Cause he'd always call me Mum, little Mum. 759 00:59:56,334 --> 00:59:57,959 But it never changed with him. 760 01:00:00,376 --> 01:00:03,501 When I was nine, my grandmother said to me. 761 01:00:03,667 --> 01:00:06,209 This lady's coming and she's your real mum 762 01:00:06,376 --> 01:00:07,584 and we're gonna go and meet her 763 01:00:07,751 --> 01:00:09,209 and she's gonna stay for a little while. 764 01:00:11,626 --> 01:00:16,376 She arrived by boat and we went to meet her at Southampton. 765 01:00:16,542 --> 01:00:18,334 She was on one of those big liners. 766 01:00:19,667 --> 01:00:21,459 She came with two kids. 767 01:00:24,167 --> 01:00:26,292 Rick was very quiet that day. 768 01:00:26,959 --> 01:00:28,167 He's very shy. 769 01:00:29,709 --> 01:00:31,751 He wanted to see his real mum. 770 01:00:33,626 --> 01:00:36,292 And I think Rick was looking for love. 771 01:00:39,042 --> 01:00:40,876 We got back to Ripley 772 01:00:41,042 --> 01:00:44,376 and then when everyone came down to get a cup of tea or whatever. 773 01:00:45,167 --> 01:00:47,626 I wanted to know the most important thing. 774 01:00:50,084 --> 01:00:52,584 "You're my mum, are you gonna be my mum?" 775 01:00:55,584 --> 01:00:57,042 And she said, 776 01:00:57,209 --> 01:01:01,459 "No. I think it's best we leave it the way it is." 777 01:01:05,834 --> 01:01:07,084 It was so cruel. 778 01:01:07,667 --> 01:01:09,876 She didn't like the fact he called her, "mum." 779 01:01:12,626 --> 01:01:15,751 I couldn't believe anybody could be so nasty. 780 01:01:18,667 --> 01:01:20,834 She brought her other son, Bryan 781 01:01:21,709 --> 01:01:24,042 and he said to Rick, "Are you my brother?" 782 01:01:24,584 --> 01:01:25,751 And she heard that, and she said, 783 01:01:25,917 --> 01:01:27,459 "No, he's not your brother." 784 01:01:28,292 --> 01:01:31,417 I couldn't believe it, she could say things like that to a child. 785 01:01:37,126 --> 01:01:38,751 I was so angry with her. 786 01:01:41,167 --> 01:01:42,584 I just felt rejection. 787 01:01:47,001 --> 01:01:48,501 I didn't talk to anybody. 788 01:01:51,542 --> 01:01:54,751 I was more on my own than I had ever been. 789 01:02:37,626 --> 01:02:40,709 Eric felt that he wanted to try something a bit different 790 01:02:41,251 --> 01:02:43,917 musically and asked me if I'd be interested. 791 01:02:45,001 --> 01:02:47,459 We were essentially just experimenting. 792 01:02:55,042 --> 01:02:57,542 None of us more than Eric I think, 793 01:02:57,709 --> 01:03:00,834 he was definitely going through something. 794 01:03:10,667 --> 01:03:14,001 We were just having fun, we hadn't got an agenda. 795 01:03:15,834 --> 01:03:18,501 I wrote a song called, Presence of the Lord 796 01:03:18,667 --> 01:03:20,792 which it starts out with the line, 797 01:03:20,959 --> 01:03:22,751 "I finally found a place to live." 798 01:03:22,917 --> 01:03:25,042 And I was really writing about Hurtwood. 799 01:04:34,459 --> 01:04:36,584 By now, Charlotte had had enough. 800 01:04:37,042 --> 01:04:39,709 We broke up and she'd gone back to Paris. 801 01:04:41,126 --> 01:04:45,251 And I had begun on and off to see this girl, Alice. 802 01:04:46,209 --> 01:04:47,959 She was a great woman. 803 01:04:48,626 --> 01:04:52,167 But she didn't know that I was obsessed with Pattie. 804 01:05:41,209 --> 01:05:44,167 One morning, I woke up and opening the mail, 805 01:05:44,334 --> 01:05:47,542 I found this letter with tiny little handwriting. 806 01:05:50,042 --> 01:05:52,376 And I opened it and it said, 807 01:05:53,876 --> 01:05:55,084 "Dearest L." 808 01:06:00,126 --> 01:06:02,917 The spacing of the words and the size of the lettering 809 01:06:03,084 --> 01:06:05,042 compared to the size of the page. 810 01:06:05,209 --> 01:06:08,334 It was quiet, but it was full of passion. 811 01:06:10,542 --> 01:06:13,792 I almost had a sort of physical reaction 812 01:06:13,959 --> 01:06:16,042 that somebody could write something so amazingly 813 01:06:16,209 --> 01:06:18,334 beautiful and yet keeping it quiet. 814 01:06:20,417 --> 01:06:22,251 It was bursting with passion. 815 01:06:29,334 --> 01:06:31,834 And later in the early evening, 816 01:06:32,001 --> 01:06:33,792 the phone rang and it was Eric. 817 01:06:34,792 --> 01:06:37,334 He said, "I mean what I say in the letter." 818 01:06:51,084 --> 01:06:53,084 The very first time I met Eric, 819 01:06:53,251 --> 01:06:55,334 we were opening up for Blind Faith. 820 01:06:55,917 --> 01:06:58,417 That band broke up, so I called up Eric 821 01:06:58,584 --> 01:07:00,876 and I said, "I just need to get away, 822 01:07:01,042 --> 01:07:02,667 and just to get quiet for a while." 823 01:07:02,834 --> 01:07:04,834 And he said, "Why don't you come over?" 824 01:07:05,001 --> 01:07:08,167 We just hung out and played and watched silly programs 825 01:07:08,334 --> 01:07:09,417 and stuff, you know? 826 01:07:12,584 --> 01:07:15,501 I was offered a concert which was a benefit, you know? 827 01:07:15,667 --> 01:07:17,251 I wouldn't make any money, really but it was just a chance 828 01:07:17,417 --> 01:07:18,709 to play somewhere. 829 01:07:18,876 --> 01:07:21,084 Bobby and I thought, "Why don't we do that?" 830 01:07:21,251 --> 01:07:22,459 So we only did the rhythm section, 831 01:07:22,667 --> 01:07:24,709 but the only rhythm section we knew that we could work with 832 01:07:24,876 --> 01:07:27,126 was Jim and Carl. So we got Jim and Carl over. 833 01:07:29,251 --> 01:07:31,917 And I think that was the only thing we had planned. 834 01:07:58,751 --> 01:08:02,209 It was all about just playing constantly. 835 01:08:03,001 --> 01:08:06,084 There was times when we jammed in E for like days. 836 01:08:20,751 --> 01:08:22,251 There was really no break from it, 837 01:08:22,417 --> 01:08:24,667 there was like a constant musical party. 838 01:08:25,667 --> 01:08:27,251 Everybody came over to visit. 839 01:08:31,792 --> 01:08:33,542 There was always a lot of cocaine. 840 01:08:33,751 --> 01:08:36,584 A lot of Mandrax, which is kind of like a Quaalude. 841 01:08:36,751 --> 01:08:40,626 LSD, mescaline and a lot of pot, a lot of hash. 842 01:08:43,001 --> 01:08:45,584 I knew something was wrong with Eric, he wasn't himself, 843 01:08:45,751 --> 01:08:48,334 he was very distracted all the time. 844 01:08:48,501 --> 01:08:51,167 Whenever I saw Pattie, I saw him perk up a little bit. 845 01:08:51,334 --> 01:08:53,292 He had a lot of pictures of her around, 846 01:08:53,459 --> 01:08:54,626 like modeling pictures. 847 01:08:54,792 --> 01:08:57,001 I think that was even bigger than his music, 848 01:08:57,167 --> 01:08:59,001 because he seemed to be so obsessed. 849 01:09:04,167 --> 01:09:07,084 Eric started to phone me and said, "Come on. 850 01:09:07,251 --> 01:09:09,501 You're obviously unhappy, come away with me." 851 01:09:09,667 --> 01:09:10,917 And I'd say, "No, I can't. 852 01:09:11,542 --> 01:09:13,626 You know, I'm married to George"and he'll say, 853 01:09:13,792 --> 01:09:14,792 "No, come on..." 854 01:09:16,292 --> 01:09:19,001 He was fun and awake and alive. 855 01:09:19,167 --> 01:09:21,292 It was the most wonderful temptation 856 01:09:22,542 --> 01:09:24,501 and I could only compare him to George 857 01:09:24,667 --> 01:09:26,792 who could be very cold and would just turn off. 858 01:09:31,626 --> 01:09:33,917 So from time to time, during the summer, 859 01:09:34,084 --> 01:09:35,542 Eric and I saw each other. 860 01:09:35,709 --> 01:09:39,376 We'd go to little places for coffee, lunch or even dinner. 861 01:09:51,709 --> 01:09:55,501 George Harrison rang one afternoon and he asked Eric, 862 01:09:55,667 --> 01:09:58,292 if he and I would like to play on his first album 863 01:09:58,459 --> 01:09:59,501 that he's gonna do. 864 01:09:59,667 --> 01:10:01,292 He had all these songs, you know? 865 01:10:02,584 --> 01:10:04,876 Eric and I had talked about who we wanted in the band. 866 01:10:06,042 --> 01:10:07,626 Of course we knew, we wanted Carl. 867 01:10:08,334 --> 01:10:10,917 And Jim Gordon just storm trooped over 868 01:10:11,667 --> 01:10:13,584 and we were ready to go, we couldn't wait. 869 01:10:13,751 --> 01:10:16,001 You know, because it was to go into the studio and record 870 01:10:16,167 --> 01:10:17,084 All Things Must Pass. 871 01:10:18,209 --> 01:10:21,001 So, really, we put the band together 872 01:10:21,167 --> 01:10:23,084 during the All Things Must Pass sessions. 873 01:10:28,667 --> 01:10:31,917 That was our first recording, it was All Things Must Pass. 874 01:10:32,084 --> 01:10:34,084 It was the first Dominos real recording. 875 01:10:36,001 --> 01:10:38,751 But that's when the drugs were coming in. 876 01:10:39,667 --> 01:10:42,334 This guy would show up at Abbey Road 877 01:10:43,001 --> 01:10:44,459 and sell you your coke 878 01:10:44,626 --> 01:10:47,126 but he'd make sure that you bought smack as well. 879 01:10:48,209 --> 01:10:50,876 That was the deal, he wouldn't sell you one without the other. 880 01:10:55,709 --> 01:10:57,417 Eric says, "You wanna try some of this? 881 01:10:57,584 --> 01:10:58,834 You know, the heroin. 882 01:10:59,501 --> 01:11:02,459 I said, "No, man, let me just watch you." 883 01:11:05,001 --> 01:11:08,251 He did it. Just snorted it, you know? 884 01:11:08,417 --> 01:11:10,334 I said, "What does it feel like?" 885 01:11:10,501 --> 01:11:14,001 He said, "Pink cotton wool surrounding me." 886 01:11:22,542 --> 01:11:24,751 Then I went in to a sort of trance. 887 01:11:25,626 --> 01:11:29,126 It got really mysterious and I didn't know where I was. 888 01:11:32,417 --> 01:11:35,334 I had been given a little Persian book. 889 01:11:36,876 --> 01:11:39,792 The love story about Laila and Majnun. 890 01:11:42,584 --> 01:11:45,501 An absolute tragedy of doomed love. 891 01:11:49,251 --> 01:11:53,042 The hero ends up alone in the desert 892 01:11:55,626 --> 01:11:59,792 and gives his soul up to Allah before dying alone. 893 01:12:02,459 --> 01:12:04,001 I saw myself as that. 894 01:12:05,292 --> 01:12:08,917 I saw the whole experience with Pattie as tragedy. 895 01:12:14,209 --> 01:12:18,292 Things became rather tricky with George and I. 896 01:12:20,251 --> 01:12:23,834 I met with Eric, we had a drink in South Kensington, 897 01:12:24,001 --> 01:12:25,209 he had a flat there. 898 01:12:33,834 --> 01:12:36,001 Eric said, "You know, I love you and I want you 899 01:12:36,167 --> 01:12:38,417 to be with me, come away with me. 900 01:12:38,584 --> 01:12:41,126 I just feel that I need you." 901 01:12:51,834 --> 01:12:54,751 We'd been flirting for quite a while. 902 01:12:56,001 --> 01:12:57,876 But we hadn't gone over the line. 903 01:12:59,917 --> 01:13:01,417 But that evening. 904 01:13:02,959 --> 01:13:04,126 We made love. 905 01:13:13,792 --> 01:13:17,167 And then we realized that we were supposed to be 906 01:13:17,334 --> 01:13:18,459 at this party. 907 01:13:23,167 --> 01:13:25,167 Everybody was there. It was a big party. 908 01:13:25,334 --> 01:13:26,751 I went with Mick. 909 01:13:27,126 --> 01:13:30,167 Paul McCartney was there, Eric was there. 910 01:13:31,417 --> 01:13:33,167 Pattie came without George. 911 01:13:36,459 --> 01:13:40,167 For the first time, it felt like there was a chance for us. 912 01:13:41,626 --> 01:13:44,751 Eric said he wanted to talk to me and we were in the garden. 913 01:13:45,126 --> 01:13:46,667 This was quite late, you know, 914 01:13:46,834 --> 01:13:48,667 because the sun was beginning to come up. 915 01:13:50,876 --> 01:13:52,917 And George appeared from nowhere 916 01:13:53,626 --> 01:13:55,876 from the mists of the morning. 917 01:13:59,667 --> 01:14:01,959 And I said, "I have to tell you something, 918 01:14:02,667 --> 01:14:04,209 I'm in love with your wife." 919 01:14:06,126 --> 01:14:09,417 And George looked at me accusingly and said, 920 01:14:09,584 --> 01:14:11,584 "What are you gonna do, are you going with him 921 01:14:11,751 --> 01:14:13,001 or are you coming back with me?" 922 01:14:15,417 --> 01:14:17,126 I felt her detach. 923 01:14:17,917 --> 01:14:20,292 Right there and then, I knew the deal was off. 924 01:14:22,334 --> 01:14:24,959 So I said, "George, of course I'm going with you." 925 01:14:29,626 --> 01:14:33,251 There were no extra words, there was nothing else 926 01:14:33,417 --> 01:14:36,751 to be discussed except who was I going home with 927 01:14:36,917 --> 01:14:39,792 and I found that deeply depressing. 928 01:14:43,709 --> 01:14:46,292 Everyone knew that George was playing around 929 01:14:46,459 --> 01:14:49,376 but she was absolutely loyal to him. 930 01:14:55,626 --> 01:14:57,709 And I thought, "What do you want? 931 01:14:57,876 --> 01:15:00,376 Do you want to see me crawl across the floor to you? 932 01:15:01,334 --> 01:15:02,667 What do I have to do?" 933 01:15:37,084 --> 01:15:41,292 Eric was going through this major major trauma. 934 01:15:42,667 --> 01:15:45,792 That's why all that music spoke that way. 935 01:15:45,959 --> 01:15:47,751 It was Eric telling the truth about 936 01:15:47,917 --> 01:15:49,751 what was going on with him right then. 937 01:15:49,917 --> 01:15:51,209 That was for sure. 938 01:16:02,709 --> 01:16:04,542 The people in the South will go out back 939 01:16:04,709 --> 01:16:06,417 and roll around in the gravel, you know? 940 01:16:06,584 --> 01:16:09,376 About being in love with your best friend's wife. 941 01:16:10,584 --> 01:16:12,376 Eric did it musically. 942 01:16:13,126 --> 01:16:15,917 He wanted so much to get Pattie back 943 01:16:16,084 --> 01:16:17,959 and he said it was time to record. 944 01:17:00,459 --> 01:17:02,626 When we got to Miami. 945 01:17:02,792 --> 01:17:05,876 We set up in Thunderbird motel down there, 946 01:17:06,042 --> 01:17:09,751 with very large bags of cocaine. 947 01:17:11,959 --> 01:17:14,834 We really didn't have enough songs for an album. 948 01:17:15,709 --> 01:17:17,334 But we had faith. 949 01:17:19,751 --> 01:17:21,792 Played all day, played all night. 950 01:17:21,959 --> 01:17:24,542 Get back to hotel, hole up in Eric's room 951 01:17:24,709 --> 01:17:26,917 or something and playing that thing. 952 01:17:30,376 --> 01:17:34,126 Once more, once more, once more. Sorry. 953 01:17:44,876 --> 01:17:49,126 They started playing me concepts for songs 954 01:17:49,292 --> 01:17:51,792 that they had not finalized the arrangements on 955 01:17:52,292 --> 01:17:54,792 and I just kept tape rolling for a day or two, 956 01:17:54,959 --> 01:17:57,792 because I was learning the songs as they were playing them 957 01:17:57,959 --> 01:18:00,542 and the songs and the arrangements were evolving. 958 01:18:00,709 --> 01:18:03,376 I can't do it. When it gets a little more complicated 959 01:18:03,542 --> 01:18:05,792 than a simple harmony, I'm not sure if I could. 960 01:18:05,959 --> 01:18:08,417 What if I started out and did the first... 961 01:18:08,584 --> 01:18:09,709 Is the guitar? 962 01:18:10,167 --> 01:18:11,167 Yeah. 963 01:18:48,709 --> 01:18:50,959 About two weeks into the sessions, 964 01:18:51,292 --> 01:18:52,751 we hit a brick wall. 965 01:18:54,334 --> 01:18:56,834 We got stuck, really badly stuck. 966 01:18:58,126 --> 01:19:00,459 I'd written part of the song in England. 967 01:19:01,292 --> 01:19:02,501 For Pattie. 968 01:19:02,667 --> 01:19:05,334 It had this sort of story overlaid on it 969 01:19:05,501 --> 01:19:08,334 about a little Persian book. Laila and Majnum. 970 01:19:09,334 --> 01:19:10,834 And I couldn't finish it. 971 01:19:12,167 --> 01:19:14,417 What will you do when you get lonely? 972 01:19:29,417 --> 01:19:33,042 That was for sure, a tortured soul singing right there. 973 01:19:34,001 --> 01:19:36,167 But things were getting complicated. 974 01:19:36,334 --> 01:19:38,501 The band really needed a new direction. 975 01:20:13,876 --> 01:20:17,084 Tom Dowd took us all to see the Allman Brothers. 976 01:20:18,001 --> 01:20:20,751 And I was completely blown away by this band 977 01:20:20,917 --> 01:20:23,376 and they just were incredible musicians. 978 01:20:35,876 --> 01:20:37,292 Eric had never met Duane. 979 01:20:37,459 --> 01:20:40,126 He heard about Duane, but Duane and I were already tight. 980 01:20:41,917 --> 01:20:44,084 It was Duane's show, he ran that band, 981 01:20:44,251 --> 01:20:45,667 he was the band leader. 982 01:21:07,376 --> 01:21:08,542 That was it. 983 01:21:08,709 --> 01:21:11,376 After the show, we asked him to come back and we jammed 984 01:21:11,542 --> 01:21:12,709 all night long. 985 01:21:15,292 --> 01:21:16,917 I went down to Miami 986 01:21:17,084 --> 01:21:18,834 Tom Dowd said "I know you want to watch this cat play 987 01:21:19,001 --> 01:21:20,709 'cos I know you've always thought he's the best" 988 01:21:20,876 --> 01:21:21,709 and I have, man... 989 01:21:22,292 --> 01:21:25,126 I love his playing, I love the attitude in which he plays, 990 01:21:25,292 --> 01:21:26,667 I love everything he does, 991 01:21:26,876 --> 01:21:29,376 he's a very wonderful, very beautiful man. 992 01:21:30,042 --> 01:21:31,667 So I shot down there, man. 993 01:21:32,084 --> 01:21:33,626 And Eric says "Bring your amp in... 994 01:21:33,792 --> 01:21:35,042 hook yourself up man, 995 01:21:35,209 --> 01:21:36,917 and we'll play, we'll make us an album" 996 01:21:37,084 --> 01:21:38,209 and I said "OK, man 997 01:21:38,376 --> 01:21:40,167 if that's what you want, that's what we'll do" 998 01:21:40,334 --> 01:21:41,959 and then we did it. 999 01:23:36,334 --> 01:23:38,834 - What you got? - My hands are dead! 1000 01:23:42,334 --> 01:23:44,792 I play the Gibson, Eric plays the Fender 1001 01:23:44,959 --> 01:23:45,959 all the way through. 1002 01:23:46,126 --> 01:23:48,292 So, if you can tell a Gibson from a Fender, there you go! 1003 01:23:48,459 --> 01:23:51,751 If you can't you just go ahead and hallucinate, I don't care! 1004 01:23:52,084 --> 01:23:53,542 I got two slide tracks on it, 1005 01:23:53,709 --> 01:23:55,376 Eric's got an acoustic track on it 1006 01:23:55,542 --> 01:23:57,251 and I believe there's an extra percussion track on it too, 1007 01:23:57,417 --> 01:23:58,417 I'm not sure. 1008 01:23:58,584 --> 01:24:00,959 There's a lot of goodness on that album man, I mean it. 1009 01:24:02,584 --> 01:24:05,084 Duane and I just became inseparable 1010 01:24:05,251 --> 01:24:07,084 for the rest of the time we were there. 1011 01:24:07,251 --> 01:24:09,292 He was the catalyst we needed. 1012 01:24:12,251 --> 01:24:14,001 It was all about love songs. 1013 01:24:14,751 --> 01:24:16,834 Ballads with a different tempo. 1014 01:24:17,667 --> 01:24:21,042 It was that what we can't see or touch 1015 01:24:21,209 --> 01:24:23,459 or smell, or taste or feel. 1016 01:24:24,292 --> 01:24:26,417 And of course, it was all about Pattie. 1017 01:24:27,251 --> 01:24:30,501 That's why Eric is singing all that pain and agony and stuff. 1018 01:24:49,709 --> 01:24:53,167 I met with Eric in South Kensington 1019 01:24:53,917 --> 01:24:56,251 he said, "I've got something for you to hear." 1020 01:25:04,751 --> 01:25:06,042 He played me this album. 1021 01:25:07,959 --> 01:25:11,042 My gosh, it was so powerful. 1022 01:25:28,042 --> 01:25:30,626 I was at bursting point of emotion. 1023 01:25:32,376 --> 01:25:34,834 I couldn't believe that I was the inspiration 1024 01:25:35,001 --> 01:25:36,584 for him putting this together. 1025 01:25:38,001 --> 01:25:39,876 I thought when I heard it, 1026 01:25:40,042 --> 01:25:42,084 that everyone would know it was about me. 1027 01:25:49,667 --> 01:25:51,542 And I didn't want this to happen. 1028 01:25:53,251 --> 01:25:54,834 I couldn't stop listening to it. 1029 01:25:56,542 --> 01:25:58,376 But once the album was finished, 1030 01:25:58,542 --> 01:26:00,751 I couldn't wait to get out and go home. 1031 01:26:23,459 --> 01:26:24,834 It didn't work. 1032 01:26:34,001 --> 01:26:35,376 It was all for nothing. 1033 01:26:37,334 --> 01:26:38,626 It was like a... 1034 01:26:42,459 --> 01:26:43,501 Rejection. 1035 01:26:59,376 --> 01:27:01,917 The Jimi Hendrix Experience is over. 1036 01:27:02,084 --> 01:27:05,334 The acid rock musician died today in a London hospital 1037 01:27:05,501 --> 01:27:07,792 apparently from an overdose of drugs. 1038 01:27:07,959 --> 01:27:11,917 During his short career, Hendrix flailed his electric guitar 1039 01:27:12,084 --> 01:27:15,709 into some of the most unusual sounds of an unusual music. 1040 01:27:25,209 --> 01:27:27,709 I went out into the garden and cried all day. 1041 01:27:27,876 --> 01:27:29,959 'Cause he left me behind. 1042 01:27:31,334 --> 01:27:32,917 And not because he's gone, 1043 01:27:33,084 --> 01:27:35,042 but because he hadn't taken me with him. 1044 01:27:36,626 --> 01:27:38,834 This made me so fucking angry. 1045 01:27:53,751 --> 01:27:55,751 Well, it shattered Eric, you know? 1046 01:27:55,917 --> 01:27:59,376 We had just recorded Little Wing couple of weeks before that. 1047 01:28:00,292 --> 01:28:02,126 That was Eric's tribute to Jimi. 1048 01:28:02,501 --> 01:28:04,834 So that had a huge impact on Eric. 1049 01:28:23,834 --> 01:28:25,959 Morning, spot me on the Bee Gees and the other one. 1050 01:28:26,126 --> 01:28:26,959 Excellent. 1051 01:28:27,126 --> 01:28:29,209 You hear the new mix down there. 1052 01:28:29,376 --> 01:28:30,584 Eric, you're... 1053 01:28:30,751 --> 01:28:32,417 That Derek, they oughta be a smash hit. 1054 01:28:32,584 --> 01:28:34,209 I'm telling you, it's a mass... 1055 01:28:34,376 --> 01:28:36,459 Bill Baxter, Greenberg. 1056 01:28:36,959 --> 01:28:39,167 Jerry Greenberg. All right, yeah. 1057 01:28:39,334 --> 01:28:41,626 Derek and the Dominos, 25 for cash box 1058 01:28:41,792 --> 01:28:43,417 and 24 for record. 1059 01:28:44,709 --> 01:28:49,292 I considered Eric the most major artist on our label. 1060 01:28:51,001 --> 01:28:55,251 So I couldn't believe the record wasn't selling in America. 1061 01:28:57,876 --> 01:28:59,209 I didn't know what to do. 1062 01:29:00,959 --> 01:29:05,959 And he knew, it was because nobody knew that Derek was Eric. 1063 01:29:06,542 --> 01:29:10,209 So, at that time, Eric was very vulnerable. 1064 01:29:11,376 --> 01:29:14,334 Why not call the group... by your name? 1065 01:29:15,709 --> 01:29:19,084 Everybody knows... that Derek and the Dominos 1066 01:29:20,501 --> 01:29:22,751 are Eric Clapton, you know what I mean? 1067 01:29:23,376 --> 01:29:25,209 But then, what's the difference? 1068 01:29:25,376 --> 01:29:26,876 But, why, why not? 1069 01:29:27,501 --> 01:29:28,667 Well, because... 1070 01:29:32,209 --> 01:29:35,334 I guess it's just more fun to have a name, you know... 1071 01:29:35,501 --> 01:29:37,709 It's just lighter, you know? 1072 01:29:39,501 --> 01:29:40,917 I read something somewhere 1073 01:29:41,084 --> 01:29:43,792 about the idea that you wanna give up touring, 1074 01:29:43,959 --> 01:29:45,751 you're not considering giving it all up? 1075 01:29:46,917 --> 01:29:49,042 I don't think I could ever stop playing. 1076 01:29:49,542 --> 01:29:51,459 You know, like I could vanish anytime, 1077 01:29:51,626 --> 01:29:55,126 I could just stop making appearances at anytime. 1078 01:29:55,292 --> 01:29:58,376 I think I could, I think that's quite easy. 1079 01:29:58,876 --> 01:30:00,876 You know, financially if I was secure enough 1080 01:30:01,042 --> 01:30:02,501 to able to not have to go on the road 1081 01:30:02,667 --> 01:30:04,042 which I'm not at the moment, 1082 01:30:04,209 --> 01:30:06,792 I need to go out to make money to exist. 1083 01:30:07,709 --> 01:30:09,209 If I didn't need to do that, 1084 01:30:09,376 --> 01:30:12,626 as long as I had someone around me to play with. 1085 01:30:13,917 --> 01:30:16,626 I could probably just stay at home all the time. 1086 01:30:30,042 --> 01:30:32,042 He just finished a show in America. 1087 01:30:34,084 --> 01:30:35,917 And I rang him up, and I said, 1088 01:30:37,501 --> 01:30:38,667 "Dad's dying." 1089 01:30:43,667 --> 01:30:45,626 He had this tumor on the brain. 1090 01:30:50,251 --> 01:30:52,042 He said, "I'll catch the next plane back." 1091 01:30:52,209 --> 01:30:54,417 Luckily he hadn't got any more shows that night. 1092 01:30:58,292 --> 01:31:00,292 But the day after the funeral he had to go back 1093 01:31:00,459 --> 01:31:02,251 and play on a show that night, you know. 1094 01:31:03,042 --> 01:31:05,376 That'd break his heart. He really loved him. 1095 01:31:30,667 --> 01:31:32,667 I feel much more alone these days. 1096 01:31:33,209 --> 01:31:35,459 You know and if I'm alone, I'll cry. 1097 01:31:35,626 --> 01:31:37,584 You know, literally just weep. 1098 01:31:39,876 --> 01:31:41,584 What I want most is out. 1099 01:31:42,417 --> 01:31:44,001 You know, out of everything. 1100 01:31:45,751 --> 01:31:48,792 Because, right now, all I can see is the suffering of today 1101 01:31:48,959 --> 01:31:50,417 and the suffering of tomorrow. 1102 01:31:55,584 --> 01:31:58,126 How would you describe your relationship with heroin? 1103 01:32:02,917 --> 01:32:04,209 It comes first. 1104 01:32:04,626 --> 01:32:06,042 - In your life? - Yeah. 1105 01:32:06,876 --> 01:32:10,001 It's like surrounding yourself in pink cotton wool, you know? 1106 01:32:10,459 --> 01:32:12,542 Nothing bothers you, whatsoever, man. 1107 01:32:12,709 --> 01:32:15,292 Nothing will faze you out, in any way. 1108 01:32:16,751 --> 01:32:18,334 I also have this death wish. 1109 01:32:18,917 --> 01:32:19,917 - Really? - Yeah! 1110 01:32:20,084 --> 01:32:20,876 Why? 1111 01:32:21,251 --> 01:32:22,709 I don't like life. 1112 01:32:22,876 --> 01:32:24,292 - You don't like life? - No. 1113 01:32:25,084 --> 01:32:26,959 And I'm not gonna live very long. 1114 01:32:35,917 --> 01:32:37,834 Eric went into seclusion. 1115 01:32:39,501 --> 01:32:42,209 He turned and walked away, without us. 1116 01:32:42,792 --> 01:32:44,584 And he got off into the heroin. 1117 01:32:46,959 --> 01:32:49,001 And I was gonna stay there and wait it out. 1118 01:32:49,167 --> 01:32:51,542 But it didn't seem like it was ever gonna happen. 1119 01:32:55,042 --> 01:32:57,667 I thought it was the beginning, you know. 1120 01:32:58,209 --> 01:32:59,792 I didn't know it was the end. 1121 01:33:43,876 --> 01:33:45,501 I was in Wales at the time, 1122 01:33:45,667 --> 01:33:48,376 and I went down to Hurtwood where he lived. 1123 01:33:51,667 --> 01:33:54,209 I didn't know anything about heroin addiction. 1124 01:33:54,917 --> 01:33:57,334 I just thought because I was one of his oldest friends, 1125 01:33:57,542 --> 01:33:59,209 if not his oldest friend, 1126 01:33:59,792 --> 01:34:02,209 there just might be something we could talk about. 1127 01:34:06,251 --> 01:34:10,542 And I saw him moving past the window upstairs in the house. 1128 01:34:11,792 --> 01:34:13,167 But the house was locked. 1129 01:34:17,626 --> 01:34:20,542 And nobody had responded to me ringing the bell, 1130 01:34:20,709 --> 01:34:21,792 knocking the door. 1131 01:34:22,876 --> 01:34:25,126 In the end, I figured, "He doesn't want to see you," 1132 01:34:25,292 --> 01:34:26,626 and I left him alone. 1133 01:34:50,167 --> 01:34:52,626 I didn't see him for a long time. 1134 01:34:52,792 --> 01:34:56,167 I thought to myself, given his family history so far, 1135 01:34:56,334 --> 01:34:58,876 this is going to be very difficult for him 1136 01:34:59,042 --> 01:35:00,042 to get through. 1137 01:35:01,042 --> 01:35:02,876 There are things you don't get over. 1138 01:35:04,001 --> 01:35:06,334 You have to find a comfortable place to put them. 1139 01:35:08,251 --> 01:35:09,626 But they're always there. 1140 01:35:33,542 --> 01:35:36,167 With '74 tour, we started Scandinavia at first, 1141 01:35:36,334 --> 01:35:37,459 just as a warm up. 1142 01:35:38,417 --> 01:35:41,209 He was fragile, I'm not sure whether he was 1143 01:35:41,376 --> 01:35:43,001 really aware of everything around him. 1144 01:35:43,167 --> 01:35:44,667 What was going on around him. 1145 01:35:49,876 --> 01:35:51,667 I managed to come off heroin. 1146 01:35:51,834 --> 01:35:54,251 But I just went from one addiction to another. 1147 01:35:55,501 --> 01:35:59,334 And the attitude back then was that alcohol was okay. 1148 01:36:00,126 --> 01:36:03,501 But for me, alcohol was far more dangerous than heroin. 1149 01:36:04,167 --> 01:36:05,834 Mr. Eric Clapton! 1150 01:36:10,376 --> 01:36:12,834 Whether it be record label forcing him, 1151 01:36:13,001 --> 01:36:15,584 management forcing him, may have been a little too quick 1152 01:36:15,751 --> 01:36:17,001 going on a huge tour like that, 1153 01:36:17,167 --> 01:36:19,251 and throwing him back into the public limelight 1154 01:36:19,417 --> 01:36:22,792 after being a hermit through the past four or five years. 1155 01:36:26,792 --> 01:36:27,917 I'll drink to that. 1156 01:36:34,792 --> 01:36:38,084 Eric discovered Courvoisier and Remy Martin 1157 01:36:38,251 --> 01:36:39,667 and just went into it. 1158 01:36:40,626 --> 01:36:42,501 If he got a hold of something, 1159 01:36:42,667 --> 01:36:44,709 he'd hit at it until it was gone. 1160 01:36:45,209 --> 01:36:46,334 And before you know it, 1161 01:36:46,501 --> 01:36:48,376 he'd be through a whole bottle of cognac 1162 01:36:48,542 --> 01:36:50,417 before lunch time's over. 1163 01:36:51,542 --> 01:36:53,834 It looked like he wanted to kill himself. 1164 01:37:03,376 --> 01:37:06,126 I'm drunk and I'm ready to fucking trouble. 1165 01:37:12,709 --> 01:37:14,209 Clean up your act. 1166 01:37:17,417 --> 01:37:19,292 Some shows, he'd play 30 minutes 1167 01:37:19,459 --> 01:37:21,001 and say, "I'm done." 1168 01:37:21,542 --> 01:37:24,709 You know the contract may have said an hour and a half. 1169 01:37:24,876 --> 01:37:28,501 But you also have 25, 000, 30, 000 people that have... 1170 01:37:28,667 --> 01:37:31,376 Get a little upset... That you just left. 1171 01:37:31,542 --> 01:37:33,501 Sit down and shut up! 1172 01:37:33,667 --> 01:37:36,542 It was still legal to throw bottles and coolers 1173 01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:39,334 and can openers and whatever you want to throw up there, 1174 01:37:39,501 --> 01:37:40,667 you could throw. 1175 01:37:41,209 --> 01:37:43,042 You'd think your life is in jeopardy. 1176 01:37:45,001 --> 01:37:46,751 Jamie Oldaker! 1177 01:37:50,667 --> 01:37:52,167 Smile, you cunt! 1178 01:38:19,376 --> 01:38:22,209 The first disappointing confrontation with my mother 1179 01:38:22,376 --> 01:38:23,792 was when I was nine. 1180 01:38:26,042 --> 01:38:29,917 I learned how to recover from that over the next few years. 1181 01:38:30,667 --> 01:38:32,042 Becoming good at art 1182 01:38:32,209 --> 01:38:34,626 and developing a strong interest in music. 1183 01:38:38,876 --> 01:38:42,084 By then I'd kind of developed a personal look. 1184 01:38:46,334 --> 01:38:49,167 He bought a pale blue silk suit, 1185 01:38:49,334 --> 01:38:50,959 when he was about seventeen. 1186 01:38:51,126 --> 01:38:52,792 And of course I'd never seen anything like that 1187 01:38:52,959 --> 01:38:54,209 in Ripley before. 1188 01:38:54,751 --> 01:38:56,834 And he'd have to take the collars off his shirts 1189 01:38:57,001 --> 01:38:58,501 and put white ones on. 1190 01:38:58,667 --> 01:39:00,042 Don't matter what color the shirt. 1191 01:39:00,626 --> 01:39:02,084 And of course he had his hair done. 1192 01:39:02,251 --> 01:39:04,751 He got talked about it in Ripley because of that. 1193 01:39:05,209 --> 01:39:07,251 He was very, very dressy, you know. 1194 01:39:09,834 --> 01:39:13,417 I had my guitar and that was my total companion 1195 01:39:13,584 --> 01:39:14,959 in its little case. 1196 01:39:18,542 --> 01:39:21,334 And then there came this invitation to go to Germany, 1197 01:39:21,501 --> 01:39:24,626 because Pat's husband had been stationed there 1198 01:39:25,084 --> 01:39:26,959 with the Canadian Air Force. 1199 01:39:30,126 --> 01:39:32,292 He came over to visit us in Germany 1200 01:39:32,459 --> 01:39:34,501 and he was just so keen on the guitar. 1201 01:39:34,667 --> 01:39:37,292 And we said, if he wanted to bring the guitar with him 1202 01:39:37,459 --> 01:39:38,542 to practice, he could. 1203 01:39:38,709 --> 01:39:40,584 Because really and truly, like everybody else, 1204 01:39:40,751 --> 01:39:42,376 we didn't take it seriously. 1205 01:39:43,917 --> 01:39:47,126 We're on an army camp and I didn't fit. 1206 01:39:49,126 --> 01:39:52,751 And it was suggested to me that I should get a haircut. 1207 01:39:55,167 --> 01:39:58,584 I said, "I'd rather not, I like my hair the way it is." 1208 01:40:02,709 --> 01:40:05,042 My mother put on this face like, 1209 01:40:05,584 --> 01:40:07,084 "Dare to defy me." 1210 01:40:07,751 --> 01:40:09,459 And I thought, "I don't like you. 1211 01:40:10,667 --> 01:40:12,292 "You don't want me anyway. 1212 01:40:12,459 --> 01:40:15,376 And now you really don't want me the way I am." 1213 01:40:21,917 --> 01:40:24,251 Rose said, "Please, do this." 1214 01:40:24,417 --> 01:40:26,167 Just to keep everybody happy. 1215 01:40:33,042 --> 01:40:34,834 So they gave me a crew cut. 1216 01:40:38,667 --> 01:40:40,084 It made me cry. 1217 01:40:46,751 --> 01:40:49,667 And a couple of days later, my brother came in, 1218 01:40:49,834 --> 01:40:52,084 my half-brother and sat on the guitar 1219 01:40:52,834 --> 01:40:54,959 and broke the neck clean in half. 1220 01:40:58,626 --> 01:41:01,667 It was like, everything was done to demolish 1221 01:41:01,834 --> 01:41:03,084 my personality 1222 01:41:04,126 --> 01:41:05,792 and make me null and void. 1223 01:41:07,501 --> 01:41:09,876 I was full of hatred, anger and resentment. 1224 01:41:13,417 --> 01:41:15,167 So I thought, "Okay." 1225 01:41:18,876 --> 01:41:21,001 "That's the last time I trust anyone." 1226 01:41:31,001 --> 01:41:34,292 Things became very difficult with George and I, 1227 01:41:34,459 --> 01:41:37,751 and we decided it would be better if we parted. 1228 01:41:38,459 --> 01:41:42,626 I heard that Eric was on a tour. I went to surprise him. 1229 01:41:44,126 --> 01:41:46,334 Our relationship hadn't been completed. 1230 01:41:46,501 --> 01:41:50,001 There was clearly more to it than just snatched meetings. 1231 01:41:52,251 --> 01:41:54,751 I hadn't seen her for all those years. 1232 01:41:56,334 --> 01:41:57,792 Pattie must have known 1233 01:41:57,959 --> 01:41:59,959 she was getting involved with someone 1234 01:42:00,126 --> 01:42:01,709 who was pretty unstable. 1235 01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:07,959 As much as I could love someone, I loved her. 1236 01:42:09,417 --> 01:42:11,709 I was not just screwed up, but you know, 1237 01:42:11,876 --> 01:42:13,792 a full blown addict by then. 1238 01:42:16,751 --> 01:42:21,626 Maybe I never got beyond just wanting her from a distance. 1239 01:42:24,167 --> 01:42:26,251 We would do all sorts of things together 1240 01:42:27,626 --> 01:42:29,417 and he would say, he loves me. 1241 01:42:30,126 --> 01:42:32,751 But he wanted to drink all the time 1242 01:42:32,917 --> 01:42:34,167 and it just increased. 1243 01:42:35,501 --> 01:42:38,126 But then when he had too much to drink 1244 01:42:38,292 --> 01:42:40,542 or became really seriously unpleasant 1245 01:42:40,709 --> 01:42:42,917 and I felt that he didn't love me either. 1246 01:42:43,084 --> 01:42:44,792 So this was really ghastly 1247 01:42:44,959 --> 01:42:48,376 until maybe the next day and he'd be loving again. 1248 01:42:49,334 --> 01:42:50,876 He was quite scary, 1249 01:42:51,251 --> 01:42:54,209 and he would scream at me across hotel lobbies. 1250 01:42:56,042 --> 01:42:58,376 He was just listening to a different drummer 1251 01:42:58,542 --> 01:43:00,042 when he was that drunk. 1252 01:43:04,959 --> 01:43:06,459 Mind if I have a drink? 1253 01:43:07,292 --> 01:43:08,126 No? 1254 01:43:12,709 --> 01:43:17,001 "Shut up... you just keep relying on your past, mate!" 1255 01:43:20,001 --> 01:43:23,084 I tell you what, do you want to come on stage and talk... 1256 01:43:23,251 --> 01:43:25,542 You want to come up here and talk about it? 1257 01:43:25,709 --> 01:43:27,834 I'll fucking have you, I'll tell ya. 1258 01:43:31,542 --> 01:43:34,001 It got to be a point of wondering, 1259 01:43:34,501 --> 01:43:38,084 each show, what's going to happen tomorrow night? 1260 01:43:39,667 --> 01:43:42,126 And I used to ask Carl, "What's up with this guy? 1261 01:43:42,292 --> 01:43:43,959 They told me he's a nice guy." 1262 01:43:44,126 --> 01:43:46,376 "You know, I have to lock my doors every night 1263 01:43:46,542 --> 01:43:48,917 and hide from this guy, 'cause he's out of his mind." 1264 01:44:26,792 --> 01:44:29,667 When I realized what I said, 1265 01:44:30,667 --> 01:44:33,001 I just was so disgusted with myself. 1266 01:44:33,626 --> 01:44:35,167 I was so fucking angry. 1267 01:44:37,459 --> 01:44:39,751 And I thought I needed to apologize to the people 1268 01:44:39,917 --> 01:44:41,292 I said that to. 1269 01:44:42,001 --> 01:44:44,542 Because it was shocking and unforgivable 1270 01:44:44,709 --> 01:44:46,876 and I was so ashamed of who I was. 1271 01:44:48,042 --> 01:44:52,167 I was becoming not only chauvinistic but fascistic too. 1272 01:44:52,834 --> 01:44:54,709 I was a kind of a semi racist 1273 01:44:55,959 --> 01:44:57,501 which didn't make sense. 1274 01:44:59,251 --> 01:45:01,626 I mean, half of my friends were black. 1275 01:45:02,376 --> 01:45:05,251 I dated black women and listened to black music 1276 01:45:05,417 --> 01:45:07,292 and championed black music. 1277 01:45:09,709 --> 01:45:11,501 But it didn't matter at all. 1278 01:45:13,626 --> 01:45:15,042 They could have all gone to the wall 1279 01:45:15,209 --> 01:45:16,584 as long as I had the bottle. 1280 01:45:17,792 --> 01:45:21,084 I hated everything. Everything. 1281 01:45:26,751 --> 01:45:29,167 I thought I had this dream, you know? 1282 01:45:29,334 --> 01:45:33,001 About the perfect band, you know? 1283 01:45:33,167 --> 01:45:36,001 You know... the virtuoso 1284 01:45:36,792 --> 01:45:38,417 of each instrument, you know? 1285 01:45:38,584 --> 01:45:40,001 I thought I was a virtuoso. 1286 01:45:40,167 --> 01:45:41,417 My instrument, 1287 01:45:41,584 --> 01:45:44,792 thought Jack and Ginger was the virtuoso 1288 01:45:45,792 --> 01:45:48,959 and, we all thought that. 1289 01:45:49,459 --> 01:45:51,751 I'm sad that it actually ever happen, really. 1290 01:45:53,626 --> 01:45:54,709 Because... 1291 01:45:55,917 --> 01:45:57,542 I mean, I wouldn't want to change anything 1292 01:45:57,709 --> 01:45:59,084 but probably would've done better 1293 01:45:59,251 --> 01:46:00,501 to stay with John Mayall. 1294 01:46:03,084 --> 01:46:07,292 Because it was that Cream thing, it was all like... 1295 01:46:09,376 --> 01:46:11,084 It was just aggressive music. 1296 01:46:19,709 --> 01:46:21,126 It's not even worth it, is it? 1297 01:46:22,084 --> 01:46:25,542 Just fucking do it. She's got another stash. 1298 01:46:28,001 --> 01:46:30,334 Eric was a very sad person. 1299 01:46:32,417 --> 01:46:33,459 Very, very sad. 1300 01:46:39,876 --> 01:46:42,292 He was a broken man 1301 01:46:42,459 --> 01:46:44,626 who can't cope, who can hardly speak. 1302 01:46:47,542 --> 01:46:49,501 He started having seizures 1303 01:46:50,251 --> 01:46:53,251 and then the doctor said to me, unless he stopped drinking, 1304 01:46:53,417 --> 01:46:54,667 he would die. 1305 01:47:24,334 --> 01:47:26,417 The only reason I didn't commit suicide 1306 01:47:27,042 --> 01:47:28,959 was the fact that I wouldn't be able to drink any more 1307 01:47:29,126 --> 01:47:30,251 if I was dead. 1308 01:47:32,459 --> 01:47:36,209 My capacity for the love of alcohol was boundless. 1309 01:47:37,501 --> 01:47:39,209 So I drank and drank and drank. 1310 01:47:39,876 --> 01:47:41,834 Again and again and again. 1311 01:48:23,167 --> 01:48:25,334 When making records during the drunken period. 1312 01:48:25,501 --> 01:48:27,459 I personally find it difficult to listen to, 1313 01:48:27,626 --> 01:48:29,334 because I can hear how drunk I am. 1314 01:48:32,251 --> 01:48:34,084 All of these albums have, 1315 01:48:34,792 --> 01:48:37,084 elements where it's moved up a notch. 1316 01:48:38,876 --> 01:48:41,709 I've been given the chance to sing and play 1317 01:48:42,126 --> 01:48:44,126 in a way that I hadn't before. 1318 01:48:48,792 --> 01:48:51,167 I went off to Monserrat, to make this album. 1319 01:48:51,334 --> 01:48:53,876 A lot of things took place while I was there. 1320 01:48:54,501 --> 01:48:57,667 I had had an affair with the studio manageress, 1321 01:48:58,251 --> 01:49:01,334 George Martin's Air Studios in Montserrat. 1322 01:49:01,501 --> 01:49:03,459 A lovely woman called Yvonne, 1323 01:49:03,626 --> 01:49:06,334 very attractive lady, very funny, very witty. 1324 01:49:06,501 --> 01:49:08,626 And I got a letter from her 1325 01:49:08,792 --> 01:49:11,584 saying she was pregnant with a daughter 1326 01:49:11,751 --> 01:49:14,584 and that she didn't have any expectations from me. 1327 01:49:14,751 --> 01:49:16,292 She was going to try and raise the child 1328 01:49:16,459 --> 01:49:18,001 in her existing marriage. 1329 01:49:19,042 --> 01:49:22,001 I just knew I wasn't capable of having a relationship. 1330 01:49:25,626 --> 01:49:28,167 Okay, let's just do it more acappella. 1331 01:49:28,626 --> 01:49:30,917 One, two, three, four. 1332 01:49:49,417 --> 01:49:51,542 "To understand each other." 1333 01:49:52,126 --> 01:49:54,126 Am I gonna remember that? 1334 01:49:55,001 --> 01:49:56,251 Well, you wrote it. 1335 01:49:57,709 --> 01:50:01,001 I was in absolute denial about my alcoholism. 1336 01:50:01,917 --> 01:50:05,042 I had gone to the best treatment center in the world 1337 01:50:05,209 --> 01:50:09,501 but I got into dope again and alcohol and blow. 1338 01:50:09,667 --> 01:50:12,001 And I was trying to hide it from everybody. 1339 01:50:13,251 --> 01:50:17,126 Some people say you have to live the blues to sing the blues. 1340 01:50:17,292 --> 01:50:19,001 During that period of time in your life 1341 01:50:19,167 --> 01:50:21,792 where you were involved with drugs and alcohol, 1342 01:50:22,292 --> 01:50:24,292 did you do that to justify that point of view? 1343 01:50:24,459 --> 01:50:27,084 No, you know, I was just a party animal. 1344 01:50:27,251 --> 01:50:28,459 A fun seeking boy. 1345 01:50:31,876 --> 01:50:34,001 And then I was in Milan, touring 1346 01:50:34,167 --> 01:50:36,751 and a promoter introduced me to Lory Del Santo. 1347 01:50:39,209 --> 01:50:41,001 I was just smitten with her 1348 01:50:41,167 --> 01:50:44,167 and decided I'm going to start my life from scratch 1349 01:50:44,334 --> 01:50:47,334 here in Italy without any idea where it was going to go. 1350 01:50:49,834 --> 01:50:51,959 He was a complete asshole. 1351 01:50:52,126 --> 01:50:55,042 There was no relationship, and I knew it wouldn't work. 1352 01:50:55,209 --> 01:50:58,209 And I felt so sad that he and I split up 1353 01:50:58,376 --> 01:51:00,459 because of that ridiculous idea. 1354 01:51:00,626 --> 01:51:04,167 But he was a sick person and he obviously believed it. 1355 01:51:05,626 --> 01:51:07,084 We tried to make a go of it. 1356 01:51:07,251 --> 01:51:08,792 But she didn't know who she was dealing with, 1357 01:51:08,959 --> 01:51:11,542 I was not grounded in any way. 1358 01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:15,292 I said, "Well, look, I don't think this is working. 1359 01:51:15,459 --> 01:51:17,751 I want to go back to my wife." 1360 01:51:19,584 --> 01:51:21,959 And she told me, "Well, that's not really good news, 1361 01:51:22,126 --> 01:51:23,417 because I'm pregnant." 1362 01:51:45,001 --> 01:51:47,542 Conor was the first thing that happened to me 1363 01:51:47,709 --> 01:51:49,209 in my entire life 1364 01:51:49,876 --> 01:51:51,751 that really got to my core 1365 01:51:51,917 --> 01:51:54,834 and told me, time to grow up. 1366 01:52:01,709 --> 01:52:02,542 Strong man. 1367 01:52:03,376 --> 01:52:06,167 I could not fuck around any longer. 1368 01:52:07,209 --> 01:52:09,084 I could not damage this. 1369 01:52:30,751 --> 01:52:33,542 Recently you had a child, what was that like? 1370 01:52:34,042 --> 01:52:36,001 Well that came about quite out of the blue. 1371 01:52:36,167 --> 01:52:38,834 I met this young lady and bang it happened. 1372 01:52:39,001 --> 01:52:41,167 It was like the baby was looking for parents too. 1373 01:52:42,126 --> 01:52:43,959 You know, to give it life. 1374 01:52:44,959 --> 01:52:47,001 And he's great, it's wonderful. 1375 01:52:47,959 --> 01:52:49,376 You got a goal for the future? 1376 01:52:49,542 --> 01:52:53,334 Yes, just you know, grow up happily with my son. 1377 01:53:12,334 --> 01:53:14,792 I got to the place where I couldn't live without a drink 1378 01:53:14,959 --> 01:53:16,334 and I couldn't live with it. 1379 01:53:17,542 --> 01:53:19,501 When I tried to stop on my own, 1380 01:53:19,667 --> 01:53:23,042 my withdrawals were so hard that I had a grand mal seizure. 1381 01:53:26,042 --> 01:53:28,376 I was on my own in the house one day. 1382 01:53:29,542 --> 01:53:31,959 And I got down on my knees and prayed. 1383 01:53:33,501 --> 01:53:35,501 Was a really clumsy experience 1384 01:53:35,667 --> 01:53:38,417 but it was born out of real desperation. 1385 01:53:39,792 --> 01:53:42,334 And I said, "Just let me have some peace." 1386 01:54:01,251 --> 01:54:03,667 What effect has fatherhood had on you? 1387 01:54:03,834 --> 01:54:05,959 A very stabilizing effect because you suddenly 1388 01:54:06,126 --> 01:54:07,667 have to stop being so selfish, 1389 01:54:07,834 --> 01:54:10,292 you have to think more about the life of someone else. 1390 01:54:10,709 --> 01:54:12,626 It is like a blood thing. 1391 01:54:12,792 --> 01:54:15,459 It's a tie for the rest of your life. 1392 01:54:15,626 --> 01:54:17,334 And I love him dearly 1393 01:54:17,501 --> 01:54:20,792 and really he's made a massive change in me. 1394 01:54:41,751 --> 01:54:45,001 Lory and Conor were staying in New York 1395 01:54:45,167 --> 01:54:48,042 in this place called the Galleria on 57th street. 1396 01:54:48,542 --> 01:54:50,459 And I was in New York as well. 1397 01:54:51,792 --> 01:54:54,917 So I took Conor to see the circus on Long Island. 1398 01:55:01,584 --> 01:55:03,084 We had a great time. 1399 01:55:07,501 --> 01:55:09,542 The following day, I was going to take Conor for lunch 1400 01:55:09,709 --> 01:55:11,042 maybe on my own. 1401 01:55:11,542 --> 01:55:13,001 It was about eleven in the morning. 1402 01:55:13,167 --> 01:55:15,917 I was getting ready to go up to 57th Street. 1403 01:55:17,542 --> 01:55:19,792 Then I got a phone call from Lory, 1404 01:55:21,126 --> 01:55:22,876 just kind of screaming. 1405 01:55:24,626 --> 01:55:26,084 She said, "He's dead." 1406 01:55:27,126 --> 01:55:28,792 I thought, "What's she talking about?" 1407 01:55:29,626 --> 01:55:31,251 She said, "He fell out the window." 1408 01:55:35,126 --> 01:55:37,376 There couldn't have been a bigger nightmare. 1409 01:55:37,542 --> 01:55:40,459 Before anyone could stop him, four-year-old Conor Clapton 1410 01:55:40,626 --> 01:55:42,626 had plunged to his death from the 53rd floor 1411 01:55:42,792 --> 01:55:44,417 of the Galleria building. 1412 01:55:44,584 --> 01:55:47,001 He made it past his mother and three other adults 1413 01:55:47,167 --> 01:55:48,292 who were in the apartment 1414 01:55:48,459 --> 01:55:51,251 to a window that had just been cleaned and left open. 1415 01:55:51,626 --> 01:55:53,417 There was nothing to break his fall 1416 01:55:53,584 --> 01:55:55,667 except the roof of an adjoining building. 1417 01:55:55,834 --> 01:55:57,417 It's just a tragic accident, 1418 01:55:57,584 --> 01:56:01,376 that the child apparently wandered into the bedroom, 1419 01:56:02,042 --> 01:56:03,417 wandered close to the window 1420 01:56:03,584 --> 01:56:09,042 and just by the fact that the window ledge was low, 1421 01:56:09,209 --> 01:56:11,792 it appears that he just tragically fell out. 1422 01:56:23,959 --> 01:56:27,042 I felt like I stepped back out of myself. 1423 01:56:28,001 --> 01:56:30,876 I couldn't grasp it, I could not grasp it. 1424 01:56:33,667 --> 01:56:37,667 And I went with the body down to the nearest hospital. 1425 01:56:38,917 --> 01:56:40,417 I went to see him 1426 01:56:41,417 --> 01:56:43,042 and I said goodbye to him. 1427 01:56:45,751 --> 01:56:47,292 And I did lose faith. 1428 01:57:13,126 --> 01:57:14,542 It was horrific. 1429 01:57:15,542 --> 01:57:17,751 I just couldn't think about that little boy. 1430 01:57:18,834 --> 01:57:19,959 This little soul. 1431 01:57:28,751 --> 01:57:30,042 Eric was a fighter. 1432 01:57:30,501 --> 01:57:32,126 But I know that 1433 01:57:32,834 --> 01:57:35,667 as well as myself, a lot of his friends 1434 01:57:35,834 --> 01:57:38,792 were very concerned about him, his sobriety. 1435 01:57:40,292 --> 01:57:41,709 He was on his own. 1436 01:57:55,709 --> 01:57:58,376 Italians had gone home and Hurtwood was quiet 1437 01:57:58,542 --> 01:57:59,751 and it was just me there. 1438 01:58:00,792 --> 01:58:02,001 With my thoughts. 1439 01:58:04,126 --> 01:58:06,709 I started opening all my letters of condolence. 1440 01:58:07,667 --> 01:58:09,667 Thousands and thousands of them. 1441 01:58:11,709 --> 01:58:14,584 I opened one and it was from Conor. 1442 01:58:17,501 --> 01:58:20,667 And it had been posted weeks before from Milan. 1443 01:58:24,584 --> 01:58:27,834 And I realized if I can go through this and stay sober 1444 01:58:28,001 --> 01:58:29,251 then anyone can. 1445 01:58:31,001 --> 01:58:32,959 And I suddenly became aware of the fact 1446 01:58:33,126 --> 01:58:35,959 that there was a way to turn this dreadful tragedy 1447 01:58:36,126 --> 01:58:38,126 into something positive. 1448 01:58:38,792 --> 01:58:42,042 That I would consider living my life from this point on 1449 01:58:42,917 --> 01:58:44,667 to honor the memory of my son. 1450 01:58:52,167 --> 01:58:55,376 I got hold of the little Spanish guitar that I had lying around. 1451 01:58:55,542 --> 01:58:57,459 And I had it with me the whole time. 1452 01:58:57,626 --> 01:58:59,126 From the minute I woke up. 1453 01:59:00,584 --> 01:59:04,167 And for the rest of that year, I just played and played 1454 01:59:05,042 --> 01:59:07,292 to stop from facing this situation. 1455 02:01:05,876 --> 02:01:07,292 Music saved me. 1456 02:01:09,751 --> 02:01:12,001 Just as it had when I was a boy of nine. 1457 02:01:14,001 --> 02:01:15,501 It took the pain away. 1458 02:01:18,584 --> 02:01:21,167 And I wrote these songs for myself 1459 02:01:21,834 --> 02:01:24,126 because I was feeling terrible inside. 1460 02:01:46,459 --> 02:01:50,292 And the Grammy goes to Tears in Heaven, 1461 02:01:50,459 --> 02:01:51,667 Eric Clapton. 1462 02:01:54,209 --> 02:01:56,126 And the song of the year is, 1463 02:01:56,626 --> 02:01:59,584 Eric Clapton and Will Jennings, songwriters 1464 02:01:59,751 --> 02:02:01,126 for Tears in Heaven. 1465 02:02:01,292 --> 02:02:03,334 And the album of the year is... 1466 02:02:05,459 --> 02:02:07,334 Unplugged, Eric Clapton. 1467 02:02:10,251 --> 02:02:13,084 As much as I'm proud of what I've achieved musically, 1468 02:02:13,667 --> 02:02:15,167 it's all dust really. 1469 02:02:15,667 --> 02:02:18,876 At some point, there will be people who have no idea 1470 02:02:19,042 --> 02:02:20,501 what I did and who I am. 1471 02:02:20,667 --> 02:02:22,667 And I'm quite comfortable about that. 1472 02:02:25,834 --> 02:02:26,792 Thank you. 1473 02:02:30,001 --> 02:02:32,834 Finally, me and my daughter, Ruth 1474 02:02:33,292 --> 02:02:35,542 were able to begin our own relationship, 1475 02:02:36,459 --> 02:02:37,751 which was wonderful. 1476 02:02:38,667 --> 02:02:40,417 And it took me to a place 1477 02:02:40,584 --> 02:02:43,209 where I was able to have a great relationship with Ruth, 1478 02:02:43,417 --> 02:02:45,417 and also become available 1479 02:02:46,626 --> 02:02:48,667 to have a relationship with another human being. 1480 02:02:48,834 --> 02:02:51,542 Now see that's, that was the first time I felt like that 1481 02:02:51,709 --> 02:02:53,209 in my entire life. 1482 02:02:58,376 --> 02:03:00,126 I have a brochure I'm going to show you quickly, called 1483 02:03:00,334 --> 02:03:03,376 Crossroads center at Antigua. 1484 02:03:03,542 --> 02:03:06,126 This is an Eric Clapton project, what is it? 1485 02:03:06,292 --> 02:03:08,209 For the last three years, I've been trying to start 1486 02:03:08,376 --> 02:03:10,292 a treatment center in Antigua. 1487 02:03:10,459 --> 02:03:11,542 For addiction? 1488 02:03:11,709 --> 02:03:13,459 For addiction to drugs and alcohol, yeah. 1489 02:03:13,626 --> 02:03:16,417 So are you doing it for people who live on the island? 1490 02:03:16,584 --> 02:03:19,251 I'm primarily doing it for people that have no money 1491 02:03:19,417 --> 02:03:20,751 that need treatment. 1492 02:03:21,917 --> 02:03:25,876 There's 100 guitars here, some of them were with me 1493 02:03:26,751 --> 02:03:28,792 through some really extreme times. 1494 02:03:29,251 --> 02:03:31,626 But I want them to raise a lot of money for the foundation 1495 02:03:31,792 --> 02:03:34,501 and to carry the message of the center. 1496 02:03:34,667 --> 02:03:36,667 Five hundred thousand out there. 1497 02:03:36,834 --> 02:03:40,417 Six hundred thousand I'm offered. 700,000, 800,000. 1498 02:03:40,584 --> 02:03:43,001 Eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 1499 02:03:43,167 --> 02:03:44,376 And sold. 1500 02:03:46,542 --> 02:03:48,584 Music has given me a great life. 1501 02:03:48,751 --> 02:03:51,626 That's never betrayed me, it's never gonna let me down. 1502 02:03:52,459 --> 02:03:55,042 But if it doesn't have the same value as knowing 1503 02:03:55,209 --> 02:03:56,626 that there are people out there 1504 02:03:56,792 --> 02:04:00,667 that I've helped get sober through the treatment center. 1505 02:04:08,417 --> 02:04:11,042 Let's bring on Hubert Sumlin. 1506 02:04:13,292 --> 02:04:14,584 Please welcome Buddy Guy. 1507 02:04:17,834 --> 02:04:20,209 Put your hands together for the king of the blues. 1508 02:04:20,376 --> 02:04:21,542 B. B. King. 1509 02:04:25,417 --> 02:04:27,626 If he hadn't heard and liked the blues. 1510 02:04:28,459 --> 02:04:32,126 He could just about be retiring from the building trade now. 1511 02:04:32,709 --> 02:04:35,751 Having spent his life, laying tiles like his father. 1512 02:04:39,001 --> 02:04:42,209 If you guide yourself into the worst aspects of life 1513 02:04:42,376 --> 02:04:43,542 which he undoubtedly did. 1514 02:04:43,709 --> 02:04:45,626 Nobody pushed him down to the depth 1515 02:04:45,792 --> 02:04:48,126 that he felt he reached at several points. 1516 02:04:48,626 --> 02:04:50,126 And nobody has got him out. 1517 02:04:54,626 --> 02:04:57,584 Now, I mean that is a very powerful personality. 1518 02:04:59,126 --> 02:05:01,667 It doesn't necessarily have to show itself 1519 02:05:02,376 --> 02:05:03,542 in company. 1520 02:05:04,376 --> 02:05:06,959 But it must be there for him to have survived. 1521 02:05:09,834 --> 02:05:12,459 And then I met Melia and fell in love. 1522 02:05:13,626 --> 02:05:15,584 She's everything I ever wanted. 1523 02:05:15,751 --> 02:05:17,084 She's my soul mate. 1524 02:05:17,501 --> 02:05:20,001 She's a beautiful woman, she's a great friend. 1525 02:05:20,501 --> 02:05:22,459 And she's a fantastic mother. 1526 02:05:23,667 --> 02:05:25,542 What more could a man ever want? 1527 02:05:28,126 --> 02:05:30,709 Hello, this is Sophie, here. 1528 02:05:31,459 --> 02:05:34,626 Here she is. And this is Daddy. 1529 02:05:37,292 --> 02:05:39,792 And this is Ella. 1530 02:05:41,167 --> 02:05:43,751 Here is Mommy. 1531 02:05:44,751 --> 02:05:46,209 And here is me. 1532 02:05:46,376 --> 02:05:47,376 Hi. 1533 02:05:55,876 --> 02:05:58,376 It was everything I did and all the mistakes I made 1534 02:05:58,542 --> 02:06:00,667 and everything that brought me here. 1535 02:06:00,834 --> 02:06:03,876 And it couldn't be much better, really. 1536 02:06:06,834 --> 02:06:09,501 I finally found the family I always wanted. 1537 02:06:10,667 --> 02:06:11,959 And always needed. 1538 02:06:12,667 --> 02:06:15,584 And now here they are, and I'm one of them. 1539 02:06:16,334 --> 02:06:18,167 My life is completely full. 1540 02:06:20,042 --> 02:06:22,209 And I would like to say a toast 1541 02:06:22,959 --> 02:06:24,126 to the Boss. 1542 02:06:27,084 --> 02:06:29,084 Give me a little talking music, will you? 1543 02:06:29,251 --> 02:06:30,417 Robert, please. 1544 02:06:31,959 --> 02:06:33,501 Keep it down, keep it down. 1545 02:06:33,667 --> 02:06:35,542 Ladies and gentlemen, for you, 1546 02:06:35,709 --> 02:06:39,751 I know that you know that Eric is a great artist. 1547 02:06:40,542 --> 02:06:44,292 He flew all the way to California to make my first CD. 1548 02:06:45,292 --> 02:06:48,209 Not only did he do that, he's done so many things 1549 02:06:48,376 --> 02:06:50,959 for a lot of us, including this guy. 1550 02:06:51,709 --> 02:06:53,209 So I'd like you to know... 1551 02:06:55,334 --> 02:06:58,626 I'm gonna shut up in a minute, but I'd like you to know 1552 02:06:58,792 --> 02:07:00,626 that I've been around the world, 1553 02:07:00,792 --> 02:07:02,959 I've played 90 different countries around the world, 1554 02:07:03,126 --> 02:07:05,626 and I've met many people, kings and queens. 1555 02:07:06,209 --> 02:07:10,834 But I've never met a better man, a more gracious man 1556 02:07:11,792 --> 02:07:15,251 than my friend, I like to call him my friend, Eric Clapton. 1557 02:07:17,751 --> 02:07:20,042 So I say to all of you... 1558 02:07:24,501 --> 02:07:26,334 May I live forever... 1559 02:07:32,792 --> 02:07:35,834 But may you live forever and a day. 1560 02:07:38,209 --> 02:07:41,167 'Cause I'd hate to be here when you pass away. 1561 02:07:42,542 --> 02:07:44,584 And when they lay me out to rest... 1562 02:07:46,084 --> 02:07:47,959 As I mentioned, I'm 81 now. 1563 02:07:48,584 --> 02:07:50,126 When they lay me out to rest, 1564 02:07:50,292 --> 02:07:53,417 may the last voices I hear be yours. 1565 02:07:54,834 --> 02:07:57,459 Saying while we was alive we were friends. 130218

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