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Hi, this is Eric Clapton here.
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I just want to express
my sadness.
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And...
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To say, thank you,
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to my dear friend B.B. King.
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I want to thank him
for all the inspiration
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and encouragement he gave me
as a player over the years
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and for the friendship
that we enjoyed.
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There's not a lot left to say
because this music...
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it's almost a thing
of the past now.
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So, if you're not familiar
with his work, then I...
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I would encourage you to go
out and find an album called,
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B. B King Live at the Regal.
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Which is where it all really
started for me
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as a young player.
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I had a blissful childhood.
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I was raised with a great deal
of love by my parents.
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Especially by my mother.
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Because she loved me
in an unconditional way.
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He was a fair-haired little boy.
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When he was quite young,
he had an imaginary horse.
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He used to call it Bushbranch.
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He used to say, "I'm just going
to see Bushbranch."
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Shall I get it tied up outside.
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He used to play cricket on the
green and things like that.
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He was a lovable kid.
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People say I was pretty
spoilt and I was selfish.
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I'm sure I must've had
some qualities,
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but not from what I hear.
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I was very fond of painting
and drawing.
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Anything that was introverted.
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He used to draw comic pictures,
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like Batman and planes
and airplanes.
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But he was a bit of a loner
at that time, you know.
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I knew that I was different.
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And I knew that other kids
at school
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regarded me as different
or maybe inferior
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and I did have a massive
inferiority complex.
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And I didn't know why.
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Then I found out that my
sister was really my mother.
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She left when I was very,
very young
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and I was raised
by my grandparents.
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I was a widow with two children.
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At twenty seven.
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My daughter had a baby,
and went to Canada.
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So, I more or less
brought the baby up.
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I had no children
with my second husband.
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So he really loved Eric.
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Pat was very lively,
very difficult youngster.
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She wasn't easy.
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Rose used to say
she was a nightmare.
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She met this Canadian.
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He was over here in England
in the village.
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And it was one-night-stand.
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In those days to be pregnant
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and young and you're not married
was awful.
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Rick was born and she just went
to Canada.
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If Rose and Jack
hadn't have taken him on,
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I don't know what would have
happened to him.
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I really don't.
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I felt hurt.
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Very, very upset.
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At that point
I mistrusted everybody
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including my grandparents.
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I was so confused.
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It seemed to me that my life
had been a lie.
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Hello, children everywhere.
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This is Uncle Mac.
Good morning, to you all.
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Here in London on Saturday.
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Uncle Mac was on the
radio on Saturday morning.
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And he would play
a variety of music for kids.
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How Much Is That Doggie
In The Window?
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All those kind of novelty
things he would play.
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And then, every now and then,
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he'd play some different music.
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You didn't hear that
anywhere else.
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Except on this kiddie's program.
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And I thought, "Oh, man,
this is for me."
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I didn't even know
that it was black music.
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I didn't know about black and
white being different stuff.
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But something about it got me.
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Something stirred me.
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Without me even being
aware of it.
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It took all the pain away.
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Well, obviously when I got
to the age to buy records,
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I went and bought them.
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He keep on going that he wanted
a guitar, so...
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We bought him his acoustic.
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Then he really got into it.
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I could get the record player
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down to the level that was right
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and play along
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to my heart's content.
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Non-stop.
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I used to suffer agonies
and that.
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At three o'clock in the morning,
you know, he'd be playing
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Big Bill Broonzy and all those
sort of records, you know,
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and trying to copy them.
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I mean, he had to go to school
the next day, ain't it?
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It used to be,
"Are you coming to bed?"
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At three o'clock in the morning.
It used to be terrible.
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It was always one man
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with his guitar
versus the world.
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He was completely alone and
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had no options other than
to just sing and play
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to ease his pain.
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And that echoed what I felt.
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So, more and more and more
and more,
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I wanted to be like that.
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I enrolled in Kingston
School of Art when I was 15.
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And I was really gripped
by the experience
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of getting involved in a life
in the arts.
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I wanted to know about
French literature.
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I wanted to know about
French cinema, Japanese cinema.
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I read Baudelaire.
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I read Kerouac,
Ginsberg and Steinbeck.
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But I was absolutely addicted
to blues.
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Totally obsessed.
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I had a record collection.
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And I was skiving off a lot
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going to try and find imports
in jazz record stores.
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Muddy Waters, B. B King,
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Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley.
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There seemed to be
nobody that I could talk to,
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would have any interest in this.
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You had to travel miles
to find another person.
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We used to meet up
at the Marquee Club
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up in Oxford Street.
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The blues night was
a Thursday night.
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And you would meet like minds
there and just dance.
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I met Mick and Keith and Brian
over there.
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They were just part of this
crew that would go there.
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And so blues music
led me to the friends
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that I was gonna have.
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In those days, there was very
little interest in the blues.
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It wasn't popular music
in this country at all.
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I was one of those snobby
purist people.
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And I got very interested in
a style of piano playing,
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played by Muddy Waters'
pianist, Otis Spann.
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I thought well, this music
belongs in a band, really.
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So, I advertisedin the Melody Maker.
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This bass player got in touch
with me.
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Well, he said, "If only we
could find a guitar player.
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We could really start to get
this music working together."
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We hired a room in a pub
with a piano
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and this little fellow walked
in the door with a guitar.
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He was about 17.
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It was instantly clear
that he had a tremendous gift
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and had worked really hard
to develop it.
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We couldn't believe
how good he was.
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It was a very small outfit
with no equipment.
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We all went through
one amplifier.
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Vocals, guitars and everything.
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We did more rehearsing
than playing.
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But it was fun.
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Ben was the person I knew,
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from the minute I met him
was a serious guy.
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And he was a great piano player.
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He was a deep inspiration
for me.
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And a kind of father figure too.
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I thought Eric had an obsessive
interest in music.
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I thought it was the very core
of his being, really.
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He was very friendly
but very private too.
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And he tended to form very
close relationships
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with people suddenly,
none of which ever lasted
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for any length of time.
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Anyway, Eric decided he was
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going to be a professional
musician
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and so he had to make
a career move.
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Ten, nine, eight...
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All right, take one now.
When you're ready.
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Four, three, two...
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We had been
working pretty regularly
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and we'd lost
our lead guitar player.
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Eric was in the same college
as we were.
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We were one of the few
southern British blues bands.
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So he joined the band sort of,
immediately.
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We did a weekly gig on
a Sunday night
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at a place called the
Crawdaddy Club in Richmond.
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It was like a party.
Everyone would get together
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and just go mad.
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And I developed a little
following amongst these people
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and I knew that there were
certain ways that I could
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get them going.
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He had his own group of
followers that used to stand
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right in front of him
on the stage.
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The Clapton clique.
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Usually everyone would
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go for the lead singer but
it was different in our band.
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It spread and it became
a fan base.
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It's great, you know,
it's good fun.
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There's lots of people
all comin' in, which is nice.
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And we're having
a good time, you know,
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with Freddy and the Dreamers,
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and The Yardbirds
and everybody. It's good.
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We were considered
a good live act.
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We were asked to do
The Beatles Christmas show.
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And we thought
they were wankers.
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But I got on with George
very well
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because he was a guitar player.
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We were both in bands
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and we did a Christmas season
in the Hammersmith Odeon
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together and Eric
was in The Yardbirds.
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And we met then.
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So people that came
to see Yardbirds
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were really into the music.
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When The Beatles came on,
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they'd just start screaming
so that you couldn't actually
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hear anything but the screaming.
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We would watch from the wings
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and I would see how pointless
these guys thought it all was.
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Already.
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George was clearly an innovator.
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But the sad part was
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that no one listened.
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And I thought The Yardbirds
had real understanding
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about what it was
really all about.
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And it wasn't about being famous
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or getting on TV or having a hit.
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...but we're running anyway.
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OK.
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Jim, Keith and myself
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started to have many ideas
about areas of music
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we wanted to pursue.
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And when the music publisher
came along
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with the song For Your Love,
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it just felt absolutely right.
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It was pop.
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All the material we were doing
was blues music
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which hadn't even properly
filtered through
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to the mainstream here.
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So we were pioneering something.
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I noticed they were deliberately
growing Beatles haircuts.
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I thought we've sold out.
I've sold out.
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I've gotta get out of here.
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Eric played on the studio
sessions
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for For Your Love.
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And then immediately left.
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We had this massive record
suddenly
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and no lead guitar player.
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I was so disheartened
by the music business,
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because it seemed to me that
everywhere I looked
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everyone was on the make.
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I think I was probably a nasty
piece of work
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to have around, you know,
if you were tryin' to launch
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into the successful music world.
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Eric came to my house in Oxford.
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I was living on my own so,
it was a one to one thing.
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And we just talked.
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I wanted his advice
on what to do
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because I liked playing the
guitar and I love blues music.
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But I thought I was gonna
give up everything.
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And I stayed with him
for about two weeks
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and watched him carve.
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We both have pretty
dysfunctional families.
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And we would sort of sit
and talk about these things.
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And I thought his interest in
his music was so obsessive
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that he didn't really have
a choice about what he was
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doing with his time.
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He just had to go where
it was best to go.
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I'm sure it's been with him
all his life.
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And while I was there
someone tracked me down.
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And it was John Mayall.
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Thanks, Bu.
And before we run out of time,
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I think it's about time we learn
to do the Crocodile Walk,
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with Johnny Mayall
and the Bluesbreakers.
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We're gonna get on a show
with him.
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Look at those dancers!
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I think, that's his new
guitar player.
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It's quite a new thing.
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God!
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Wow!
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When it came to blues
there was nobody like him.
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Eric was that special.
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He knew the history of it.
The background of it.
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And he had the emotional
feel for it.
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And the technique to express it.
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He was given this freedom
to let loose.
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Eric, how much do you think that
his influence
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helped blues based bands?
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If you're gonna
take it back to the roots
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it's between him
and Alexis Korner.
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They're the ones that started
actually physically playin' it.
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And there were lots of people
that collected old blues records
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but that didn't play.
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But he worked in the clubs
playing it.
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I mean, he's responsible for
the whole thing, really.
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The minute I got into that band
291
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I joined a working schedule
I'd never seen before.
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We worked seven nights a week.
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We played every night.
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The Twisted Wheel in Manchester.
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The Mojo in Sheffield.
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The Boathouse in Nottingham.
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The Club a'Gogo in Newcastle.
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I still had no idea
how you talk to girls.
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I was very shy.
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And then suddenly I was
dating, picking up girls.
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It was like a girl in every gig.
302
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Eric lived in Ripley
and he didn't have transport.
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So it became a matter of
convenience
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that he'd stay at our house.
305
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There was a spare room.
So he moved in there.
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I had the family, you know,
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so he was living in
the family house.
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So it was very suburban.
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The regular life with the mum
and dad and three children.
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At night we did the gigs.
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He was very cool.
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He had an incredible
collection of records
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that I listened to all day long.
For about a year,
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I just would put on records
and play along with them.
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and I went at it.
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A lot of my influences around
that time
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weren't just guitar players,
they were other singers
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and also Indian music.
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I listened to Bismillah Khan
a lot.
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I wanted my guitar to sound
like his reed instrument.
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One of the biggest influences
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on what I wanted to achieve
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with a guitar was Little Walter.
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The sound he made with
the harmonica,
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playing through an amplifier.
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And it was thick and fat.
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Very melodic.
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I had been wandering into
music shops
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in the west end of London.
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And plugging a guitar in.
331
00:23:49,584 --> 00:23:51,251
I'd try that guitar with
that amp.
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And I found this amp
way out in West London
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and it was perfect.
334
00:23:57,459 --> 00:23:59,459
It was an absolutely
perfect sound.
335
00:24:48,251 --> 00:24:50,001
He showed up with
that guitar and that amp
336
00:24:50,167 --> 00:24:54,417
and immediately people started
to idolize what he was doing.
337
00:24:57,501 --> 00:25:00,084
And to certain extent that's
what bugged him the most.
338
00:25:00,751 --> 00:25:02,917
He didn't want to be
looked at and inspected.
339
00:25:04,084 --> 00:25:06,709
He just wanted to play the way
he wanted to play
340
00:25:06,876 --> 00:25:07,917
and leave him alone.
341
00:25:17,917 --> 00:25:20,459
Now, from the time
that you left The Yardbirds
342
00:25:20,626 --> 00:25:23,376
and joined up with John Mayall
and company,
343
00:25:24,667 --> 00:25:27,126
your head seemed to change
tremendously as far as
344
00:25:27,626 --> 00:25:29,042
your music was concerned.
345
00:25:29,209 --> 00:25:31,167
What kind of things were
happening to your head then?
346
00:25:31,334 --> 00:25:33,917
Well, I really didn't change
as much as you probably think
347
00:25:34,084 --> 00:25:37,959
because it's not really
an individual change.
348
00:25:38,126 --> 00:25:40,001
It was just put into
a different context.
349
00:25:40,167 --> 00:25:41,792
So, I mean, the things
that I was doing
350
00:25:41,959 --> 00:25:43,501
reflected differently, you know.
351
00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:44,667
I mean the...
352
00:25:44,834 --> 00:25:47,334
The context of The Yardbirds
as opposed to John Mayall
353
00:25:47,501 --> 00:25:49,709
is totally different.
One is pop and one is...
354
00:25:49,876 --> 00:25:52,959
Was then even more earthier
blues than it is now,
355
00:25:53,126 --> 00:25:54,501
the stuff you played then.
356
00:25:54,917 --> 00:25:57,834
And you know, I just played
the same things
357
00:25:58,001 --> 00:25:59,501
but they just sounded different.
358
00:26:01,209 --> 00:26:03,459
One more. Take three.
359
00:26:12,292 --> 00:26:14,334
We had been
on the road for long enough
360
00:26:14,501 --> 00:26:16,126
to go in and just play our set.
361
00:26:17,167 --> 00:26:19,459
But at that period
there were technicians
362
00:26:19,626 --> 00:26:21,001
doing the recording
363
00:26:21,584 --> 00:26:23,667
that just came up to your amp
with a microphone,
364
00:26:23,834 --> 00:26:26,626
stuck it two inches away from
the front of the amplifier.
365
00:26:29,417 --> 00:26:31,417
It seemed to me that
if you wanted to get
366
00:26:31,584 --> 00:26:33,959
the atmosphere that we were
getting in the clubs,
367
00:26:34,126 --> 00:26:36,792
you needed for it to sound
like you were in the audience.
368
00:26:36,959 --> 00:26:39,376
Ten feet away.
Not three inches.
369
00:26:42,667 --> 00:26:44,792
And so when the guy did that
370
00:26:45,292 --> 00:26:47,417
on that day that we went in
to record,
371
00:26:47,751 --> 00:26:49,792
I said, "Excuse me,
I don't want it there."
372
00:26:50,417 --> 00:26:51,626
"Put it over there."
373
00:26:52,167 --> 00:26:54,751
He said, " Well, you're making
our job really difficult."
374
00:26:54,917 --> 00:26:58,542
And I said, "I don't care,
that's the way I want it."
375
00:27:06,501 --> 00:27:09,042
With Eric playing at the
sort of volume he was playing,
376
00:27:09,209 --> 00:27:10,792
there was no way that
anyone could deal with it.
377
00:27:10,959 --> 00:27:13,042
They didn't know what to do.
So we had to find a way
378
00:27:13,209 --> 00:27:14,084
to deal with it.
379
00:27:15,251 --> 00:27:18,126
That was the most
exciting part of the project
380
00:27:18,292 --> 00:27:20,209
because when we found
how to deal with it,
381
00:27:20,376 --> 00:27:21,542
we had the sound.
382
00:28:18,501 --> 00:28:19,959
That changed everything.
383
00:28:21,376 --> 00:28:23,917
Before Eric, guitar playing
in England had been
384
00:28:24,084 --> 00:28:25,751
Hank Marvin and The Shadows.
385
00:28:26,209 --> 00:28:29,042
Very, very simple,
not much technique.
386
00:28:31,042 --> 00:28:33,876
Suddenly we heard something
that was completely different.
387
00:28:34,042 --> 00:28:36,959
The record sounded unlike
anything that any of us
388
00:28:37,126 --> 00:28:39,667
had ever heard before,
it was completely revolutionary.
389
00:28:45,917 --> 00:28:48,501
Eric, now that blues
have started to emerge
390
00:28:48,667 --> 00:28:51,376
as a really very powerful force
on the pop scene.
391
00:28:51,542 --> 00:28:53,501
And everyone's latching
on to it even though
392
00:28:53,667 --> 00:28:56,001
they don't necessarily
understand the music.
393
00:28:56,209 --> 00:28:57,792
Now, do you think
this is a bad thing?
394
00:28:57,959 --> 00:29:02,417
No, you see, what will happen is
that after a long time,
395
00:29:02,584 --> 00:29:05,084
they will become
so well educated musically
396
00:29:05,792 --> 00:29:08,751
that they'll be able to dig
spades singing the blues
397
00:29:08,917 --> 00:29:12,042
instead of having to take
watered down imitations.
398
00:29:12,209 --> 00:29:13,917
They won't have
to accept that any more
399
00:29:14,084 --> 00:29:16,126
because they'll be
free thinking enough
400
00:29:16,292 --> 00:29:19,084
to be able to look
at a colored man and dig him
401
00:29:19,251 --> 00:29:21,626
without having any hang ups.
You know?
402
00:29:21,792 --> 00:29:24,751
And then all the white guys
are gonna have to find
403
00:29:24,917 --> 00:29:26,084
something their own to play,
404
00:29:26,251 --> 00:29:27,876
that's good enough
to stand up to it
405
00:29:28,042 --> 00:29:30,667
because they won't be accepted,
they'll be rejected.
406
00:29:31,167 --> 00:29:32,792
There won't be any white
blues bands,
407
00:29:32,959 --> 00:29:33,876
it couldn't happen.
408
00:29:35,459 --> 00:29:37,209
What is it you think
about the music that draws
409
00:29:37,376 --> 00:29:38,626
young white kids to it?
410
00:29:38,834 --> 00:29:40,084
Now, you mentioned
the fact that,
411
00:29:40,251 --> 00:29:41,459
groups like The Rolling Stones
412
00:29:41,626 --> 00:29:43,084
have turned them on
to the music.
413
00:29:43,251 --> 00:29:46,459
I think white kids really
love a beautiful sound.
414
00:29:46,626 --> 00:29:47,876
That deep tone.
415
00:29:48,126 --> 00:29:49,751
Then even white kids
sing the blues.
416
00:29:49,917 --> 00:29:53,417
They can play more blues than
I can ever dream of playing.
417
00:29:53,584 --> 00:29:55,376
But you know, they'll never be
able to vocal like me,
418
00:29:55,542 --> 00:29:56,459
you know that.
419
00:29:57,542 --> 00:29:59,209
And I'm singing that
out to the church
420
00:29:59,376 --> 00:30:01,084
and got that big tone,
I guess that's why
421
00:30:01,251 --> 00:30:04,042
the white kids come
to see me so often.
422
00:30:04,584 --> 00:30:07,917
Does it have something
to do with the feeling that...
423
00:30:08,084 --> 00:30:09,834
That's what I'm saying,
that tone is the feeling,
424
00:30:10,001 --> 00:30:11,626
you got the feeling in there,
for those kids.
425
00:30:11,792 --> 00:30:13,501
And there's no way
you can counterfeit that?
426
00:30:13,667 --> 00:30:15,042
You can't counterfeit that.
427
00:30:15,209 --> 00:30:16,584
You mean, in other words...
428
00:30:16,751 --> 00:30:18,584
The young kids can learn
to play a guitar that way
429
00:30:18,751 --> 00:30:20,126
but they can't learn
to sing that way?
430
00:30:20,292 --> 00:30:21,167
Like me?
431
00:30:21,667 --> 00:30:23,001
- You mean, white kids?
- Yeah.
432
00:30:23,167 --> 00:30:24,209
Oh, no.
433
00:30:24,376 --> 00:30:26,167
- You know better than that.
- Why is that?
434
00:30:26,334 --> 00:30:28,334
They ain't got enough soul
435
00:30:28,501 --> 00:30:30,084
and they didn't have
enough hard times.
436
00:30:34,001 --> 00:30:35,709
I came around to Jones' house
one day
437
00:30:35,876 --> 00:30:37,209
and he'd been out in
the garden reading
438
00:30:37,376 --> 00:30:39,292
The Melody Maker
and he was furious.
439
00:30:40,042 --> 00:30:43,792
And he said, "Eric's rehearsing
with a band in some church."
440
00:30:44,667 --> 00:30:45,876
And I said, "Oh, is he?"
441
00:30:46,917 --> 00:30:48,584
All of a sudden, there it was.
442
00:30:48,751 --> 00:30:50,584
There was this new group
that's gonna be
443
00:30:51,292 --> 00:30:53,959
making its debut somewhere
and that was it.
444
00:30:54,167 --> 00:30:55,334
It was very sudden.
445
00:30:56,459 --> 00:30:57,626
Total lunatic.
446
00:30:57,834 --> 00:30:59,334
Just said he's gonna quit.
447
00:31:14,417 --> 00:31:16,626
I wanted to be a blues trio.
448
00:31:17,251 --> 00:31:18,959
Fusing jazz and rock.
449
00:31:20,084 --> 00:31:21,876
It was just a thing where
450
00:31:22,042 --> 00:31:24,209
the three of us liked
one another's playing
451
00:31:24,376 --> 00:31:25,834
and we decided to do it.
452
00:32:50,626 --> 00:32:52,334
It's so lovely now,
I kissed Eric Clapton.
453
00:32:52,501 --> 00:32:54,001
I kissed him right on the lips.
454
00:32:54,626 --> 00:32:57,209
I kissed the fairest
soul-brother in England.
455
00:32:59,501 --> 00:33:00,709
See right now man?
456
00:33:00,876 --> 00:33:02,876
Right now we're stoned
completely out of our minds.
457
00:33:03,042 --> 00:33:05,501
And I find out,
even when I get sober,
458
00:33:05,667 --> 00:33:09,084
I find out that I tell more
of the truth on my own self, man
459
00:33:09,251 --> 00:33:11,751
when I am like this
than I am when I'm sober.
460
00:33:12,251 --> 00:33:14,251
What you're going through now,
you know,
461
00:33:14,417 --> 00:33:16,417
might in actual fact,
without you knowing it
462
00:33:16,584 --> 00:33:17,959
just be a phase.
463
00:33:18,167 --> 00:33:20,542
Your set of values now
might not exist
464
00:33:20,709 --> 00:33:23,709
in any way in the next two years
465
00:33:23,876 --> 00:33:25,542
they might change so completely.
466
00:33:25,709 --> 00:33:27,084
Oh, beautiful.
467
00:33:28,501 --> 00:33:30,292
The first time
I saw Jimi, I think
468
00:33:30,459 --> 00:33:32,584
it was a gig we did in London
469
00:33:33,084 --> 00:33:36,292
and I saw him a couple
of times at the speakeasy.
470
00:33:36,792 --> 00:33:40,334
He used to come around to
the flat a lot and stay there.
471
00:33:40,751 --> 00:33:42,251
We had a great time really.
472
00:33:42,417 --> 00:33:46,334
He was so shy, and quiet,
withdrawn and gentle.
473
00:33:48,251 --> 00:33:51,626
We talk about every day
kind of ambitions, you know?
474
00:33:51,792 --> 00:33:53,542
And the way we want
the world to be
475
00:33:53,709 --> 00:33:56,876
but the conversation never
stayed that way for very long.
476
00:33:57,084 --> 00:33:59,792
'Cause Jimi had such
a surreal mind.
477
00:33:59,959 --> 00:34:02,959
Once you start going
talking about anything.
478
00:34:03,126 --> 00:34:05,501
You'd end up talking about
flying saucers, you know?
479
00:34:05,667 --> 00:34:07,667
Sort of purple velvet moons.
480
00:34:07,834 --> 00:34:08,959
It's like.
481
00:34:09,542 --> 00:34:12,501
And you couldn't keep him on the
ground for any length of time.
482
00:34:15,751 --> 00:34:19,876
You see, music and life itself
go together so closely...
483
00:34:20,042 --> 00:34:22,334
it's sort of like a parallel
that turns on.
484
00:34:22,501 --> 00:34:24,667
Music is nothing but imagination
485
00:34:24,834 --> 00:34:27,001
sent out from somebody's soul,
man...
486
00:34:27,167 --> 00:34:30,376
sent out from somebody's
real heart
487
00:34:31,084 --> 00:34:33,709
that they can only express
through notes.
488
00:34:35,292 --> 00:34:36,917
The only thing you can give
to anyone,
489
00:34:37,084 --> 00:34:39,417
like the only thing I can give
to my darling Jimi here,
490
00:34:39,584 --> 00:34:40,501
is time.
491
00:34:58,292 --> 00:35:01,626
Eric came to my house in Oxford
with Ginger
492
00:35:01,792 --> 00:35:03,626
and said he was forming Cream
493
00:35:03,792 --> 00:35:05,751
and would I like to go
and work for them.
494
00:35:07,417 --> 00:35:10,334
I think he wanted somebody
around who he knew.
495
00:35:12,167 --> 00:35:15,334
He was enjoying the new fruits
of success hugely
496
00:35:15,501 --> 00:35:18,834
and the psychedelic musical
adventure that was happening.
497
00:35:21,959 --> 00:35:24,792
Eric and Cream came to New York
498
00:35:25,376 --> 00:35:28,667
and they came to record
in our studio.
499
00:35:30,292 --> 00:35:34,417
They played songs
that are not absolutely
500
00:35:34,584 --> 00:35:39,042
in a 12 or eight bar form
but have a blues feel.
501
00:35:40,084 --> 00:35:41,459
It's a new music.
502
00:35:42,042 --> 00:35:45,376
Especially when Eric
played the guitar.
503
00:35:49,917 --> 00:35:51,376
When I walked into my studio,
504
00:35:51,542 --> 00:35:53,626
I had a bunch of English
roadies setting up
505
00:35:53,792 --> 00:35:55,584
double stacks of Marshalls
506
00:35:56,084 --> 00:35:59,126
and double bass drums
and double cymbal stands
507
00:35:59,292 --> 00:36:00,667
and so I just looked
and I thought,
508
00:36:00,834 --> 00:36:02,084
"What, have I got two
of everything?"
509
00:36:02,251 --> 00:36:03,751
I couldn't believe what
I was looking at,
510
00:36:03,917 --> 00:36:05,167
it was just three men.
511
00:37:35,001 --> 00:37:37,292
What is the reaction to
The Cream in England?
512
00:37:37,459 --> 00:37:40,042
Very good, very good,
we're very popular there.
513
00:37:40,209 --> 00:37:44,417
Blues now, in England, is as big
as any other kind of music.
514
00:37:46,292 --> 00:37:47,917
Whose work do you admire now?
515
00:37:48,084 --> 00:37:50,126
The greatest young guitarist
on the scene at the moment
516
00:37:50,292 --> 00:37:51,751
is a guy by the name
of Jimi Hendrix
517
00:37:51,917 --> 00:37:53,042
who comes from New York.
518
00:37:53,209 --> 00:37:54,292
He has his own group
in England now
519
00:37:54,459 --> 00:37:56,084
called The Jimi Hendrix
Experience
520
00:37:56,251 --> 00:37:57,959
which is a beautiful band,
you know.
521
00:37:58,126 --> 00:38:00,876
He just plays blues things
and he freaks out occasionally.
522
00:38:02,417 --> 00:38:06,334
And naturally I love BB King
and Otis Rush, and Albert King.
523
00:38:06,751 --> 00:38:08,126
Do you ever think
there will be a time
524
00:38:08,292 --> 00:38:09,709
when the authentic blues people
525
00:38:09,876 --> 00:38:11,834
can be accepted by the mass
audiences?
526
00:38:12,001 --> 00:38:13,459
I think it's going to be
a long time
527
00:38:13,626 --> 00:38:16,251
because it's so tightly linked
in with the racial problem
528
00:38:16,417 --> 00:38:17,417
in America.
529
00:38:17,584 --> 00:38:19,126
For all the white people
in America
530
00:38:19,292 --> 00:38:23,126
to acknowledge the success
of an American blues musician
531
00:38:23,292 --> 00:38:26,292
is for them to completely
accept the civil rights.
532
00:38:26,459 --> 00:38:27,584
It'll take a long time.
533
00:38:29,126 --> 00:38:31,834
We were recording
in Atlantic Studios.
534
00:38:32,001 --> 00:38:34,584
We're sharing that workspace
with Ray Charles,
535
00:38:34,834 --> 00:38:36,959
Aretha Franklin, Otis Redding
536
00:38:37,126 --> 00:38:41,209
and Wilson Pickett,
so we were in their play room.
537
00:38:42,001 --> 00:38:44,209
A lot of the time,
we were going out
538
00:38:44,376 --> 00:38:47,834
as Otis Redding was coming in
or Aretha Franklin was coming,
539
00:38:48,001 --> 00:38:49,584
the sessions would overlap.
540
00:38:49,751 --> 00:38:51,501
And one day Ahmet said,
541
00:38:51,667 --> 00:38:53,167
"Well, would you like
to play?"
542
00:38:53,334 --> 00:38:56,334
And I said,
"Would I? You kidding?"
543
00:38:58,042 --> 00:38:59,584
- Okay.
- Standby.
544
00:38:59,751 --> 00:39:01,501
I looked in
and there was Joe South,
545
00:39:01,667 --> 00:39:03,209
Bobby Hinton, Bobby Womack.
546
00:39:03,376 --> 00:39:05,876
There were like five
guitar players on the floor
547
00:39:06,834 --> 00:39:09,042
and Aretha on piano, singing.
548
00:39:10,709 --> 00:39:12,626
And I went in there
with my permed hair
549
00:39:12,792 --> 00:39:15,376
and pink trousers,
high-heeled boots.
550
00:39:15,542 --> 00:39:17,626
Looking like a freak from Mars
551
00:39:17,792 --> 00:39:20,501
and they looked at me
like, "What's this?"
552
00:39:21,042 --> 00:39:22,792
And I sat down and played.
553
00:40:11,126 --> 00:40:14,584
Aretha Franklin started
laughing when she saw Eric
554
00:40:14,751 --> 00:40:17,667
because he was wearing
a psychedelic costume.
555
00:40:19,001 --> 00:40:23,167
But when Eric played the guitar,
Aretha stopped laughing
556
00:40:23,334 --> 00:40:25,001
because it was the real thing.
557
00:40:49,459 --> 00:40:51,959
Man, that was it,
I thought if that comes out.
558
00:40:52,126 --> 00:40:53,834
I don't have to do
anything again.
559
00:41:14,001 --> 00:41:16,209
I had just arrived
from Paris to be a model.
560
00:41:17,542 --> 00:41:20,376
When I met Eric,
I didn't know who he was at all.
561
00:41:22,084 --> 00:41:25,501
He was a bit shy,
he was a bit inhibited at first.
562
00:41:26,917 --> 00:41:29,209
But then we started
going out together.
563
00:41:29,792 --> 00:41:33,001
And we pretty much moved in
together very quickly.
564
00:41:36,917 --> 00:41:38,876
Charlotte was very funny
565
00:41:39,501 --> 00:41:41,459
and very, very open minded.
566
00:41:42,376 --> 00:41:44,001
We had a friendship.
567
00:41:44,667 --> 00:41:46,542
We just were comfortable
together.
568
00:41:48,792 --> 00:41:53,667
She saw who I was
for better or worse.
569
00:41:56,209 --> 00:41:59,209
I just started feeling like
Alice in Wonderland.
570
00:42:00,251 --> 00:42:02,376
I was totally into the Beatles.
571
00:42:02,751 --> 00:42:05,209
The next minute, we were invited
572
00:42:05,376 --> 00:42:10,126
to take part of this
special event by the Beatles.
573
00:42:10,751 --> 00:42:14,792
It was like, "Okay."
You know, normal.
574
00:42:25,792 --> 00:42:27,626
When I moved into
the Kings Road,
575
00:42:27,792 --> 00:42:31,626
George would drop by
on his route home out to Esher.
576
00:42:34,042 --> 00:42:35,584
And I've been going to Esher
a few times
577
00:42:35,751 --> 00:42:39,667
taking acid together, bit by
bit, we were becoming friends.
578
00:44:04,626 --> 00:44:08,084
The audience there
was so much more advanced.
579
00:44:08,542 --> 00:44:12,042
Cream very quickly realized,
they could just open up.
580
00:44:13,167 --> 00:44:16,251
I mean they would play the
same number for 40 minutes.
581
00:44:17,626 --> 00:44:19,542
Improvisation every night.
582
00:45:10,709 --> 00:45:13,626
And the audience
couldn't have enough of it.
583
00:45:14,417 --> 00:45:16,917
It was exactly what
they had wanted to hear
584
00:45:17,334 --> 00:45:18,834
and it had suddenly arrived.
585
00:47:19,542 --> 00:47:21,459
Many of these young players
coming along today
586
00:47:21,626 --> 00:47:24,417
have been really turned on by
the way you play the guitar.
587
00:47:25,709 --> 00:47:28,792
I'm grateful some of them
seem to like me.
588
00:47:28,959 --> 00:47:30,959
I'm grateful because
589
00:47:31,584 --> 00:47:35,959
to me, it seemed
to open a few doors for us
590
00:47:36,126 --> 00:47:39,876
that seemed like that was
never gonna be open.
591
00:47:41,751 --> 00:47:45,334
Because until the days of
rock 'n' roll a lot of times,
592
00:47:45,501 --> 00:47:48,501
a lot of the places, we...
They just wouldn't accept us.
593
00:47:48,667 --> 00:47:51,126
I'm not speaking racially,
594
00:47:51,292 --> 00:47:53,084
I'm just talking about
the people at the hall
595
00:47:53,251 --> 00:47:55,584
that just wouldn't accept us
in some of the places that...
596
00:47:55,751 --> 00:47:57,751
The door's open now,
that you can go into.
597
00:48:00,584 --> 00:48:03,251
B. B King played
the joints for years.
598
00:48:03,417 --> 00:48:06,042
Otis Redding was
a black R&B singer
599
00:48:06,209 --> 00:48:08,334
who played the southern route.
600
00:48:08,501 --> 00:48:11,334
And what rock n' roll or
the popularity of rock n' roll
601
00:48:11,501 --> 00:48:14,417
has afforded us
is the opportunity to use
602
00:48:14,584 --> 00:48:16,834
good rock n' roll
as bait to bring the people in,
603
00:48:17,001 --> 00:48:19,042
but once they got it,
to present them with
604
00:48:21,042 --> 00:48:23,376
some of the people who,
were it not for them,
605
00:48:23,542 --> 00:48:24,876
there wouldn't be
any rock n' roll.
606
00:48:27,917 --> 00:48:30,084
I was playing in New York City
607
00:48:30,251 --> 00:48:33,376
and I've been hearing about
this young guitarist,
608
00:48:33,542 --> 00:48:35,084
the Cream and so on.
609
00:48:36,751 --> 00:48:38,251
I met this young man.
610
00:48:38,751 --> 00:48:42,459
Long hair and very quiet like.
611
00:48:43,292 --> 00:48:44,792
We had a jam session.
612
00:48:46,917 --> 00:48:49,834
Eric seemed to take time,
it's like putting pieces
613
00:48:50,001 --> 00:48:51,167
in a puzzle.
614
00:48:51,334 --> 00:48:53,792
Like an old seasoned guy.
615
00:48:55,001 --> 00:48:57,376
It could sound good,
but if you gonna play
616
00:48:57,542 --> 00:49:00,292
more than two or three notes,
you need to have
617
00:49:00,459 --> 00:49:01,792
a story to tell.
618
00:49:02,626 --> 00:49:04,667
And he told me
some very good ones.
619
00:49:07,167 --> 00:49:09,876
White America had
never paid attention to blues.
620
00:49:10,417 --> 00:49:13,251
So thanks to Eric, really,
it awakened.
621
00:49:14,042 --> 00:49:15,542
Started them listening.
622
00:49:15,709 --> 00:49:18,001
Now a lot of doors were
opened for B. B. King
623
00:49:18,167 --> 00:49:19,751
and many other people
like myself.
624
00:49:28,584 --> 00:49:30,917
They did like 300 shows a year.
625
00:49:31,542 --> 00:49:34,834
And had a huge, huge following
626
00:49:35,001 --> 00:49:37,334
based on their live
performances.
627
00:49:37,917 --> 00:49:40,709
So at that time, Cream got to be
628
00:49:40,876 --> 00:49:42,834
the biggest band in the world.
629
00:49:43,376 --> 00:49:45,459
Much bigger than
the Rolling Stones
630
00:49:45,626 --> 00:49:46,751
and the Beatles.
631
00:49:58,126 --> 00:49:59,626
Eric Clapton, please.
632
00:50:03,501 --> 00:50:06,292
When you're improvising,
do you use stock phrases?
633
00:50:06,792 --> 00:50:09,459
Yeah, there are always phrases
that I always play
634
00:50:09,626 --> 00:50:11,751
that are stock phrases
that I work from you know,
635
00:50:11,917 --> 00:50:13,001
which are just like...
636
00:50:19,042 --> 00:50:20,584
All these runs.
637
00:50:20,751 --> 00:50:23,376
You know, I've put
together from old phrases
638
00:50:23,542 --> 00:50:25,209
that I've first
started on like...
639
00:50:29,417 --> 00:50:31,584
And then they're just
kind of messed up
640
00:50:31,751 --> 00:50:33,917
with other things
which I've learned like...
641
00:50:38,167 --> 00:50:39,542
If a guy likes playing football,
642
00:50:39,709 --> 00:50:41,417
then that's what he'll use
to get...
643
00:50:41,792 --> 00:50:44,667
To get all of his,
kind of, basic...
644
00:50:44,834 --> 00:50:46,834
Kind of, angry bits
out of him, you know,
645
00:50:47,001 --> 00:50:48,917
that you build up through
any day.
646
00:50:49,084 --> 00:50:51,001
You can just, someone
is tooting the horn
647
00:50:51,167 --> 00:50:52,792
in the car behind you
and you'll get angry
648
00:50:52,959 --> 00:50:54,459
and you have no release
for it, you know?
649
00:50:54,876 --> 00:50:56,292
Well, that happens to everybody,
650
00:50:56,459 --> 00:50:58,876
but you know,
I've got the advantage of being
651
00:50:59,042 --> 00:51:00,667
able to sort of play that out
652
00:51:01,501 --> 00:51:02,626
on the guitar.
653
00:51:02,792 --> 00:51:05,001
By being sort of...
654
00:51:05,167 --> 00:51:06,917
fairly aggressive in
the way I'm playing,
655
00:51:07,084 --> 00:51:08,334
not the way I use it.
656
00:51:08,501 --> 00:51:11,167
That can be done too
with people like The Who.
657
00:51:11,334 --> 00:51:12,667
Can you show us?
658
00:51:12,834 --> 00:51:14,167
What you mean, you want me
to break the guitar up?
659
00:51:14,334 --> 00:51:15,167
Well, no, not quite,
660
00:51:15,334 --> 00:51:16,626
just an example of aggression
in your music.
661
00:51:16,792 --> 00:51:17,626
Yeah, right.
662
00:51:49,251 --> 00:51:51,459
Eric wasn't the best
communicator.
663
00:51:51,626 --> 00:51:54,001
There was a lot of unsaid
things, you know,
664
00:51:54,167 --> 00:51:55,542
about where he was at.
665
00:51:56,709 --> 00:51:59,042
He enjoyed part of it very much.
666
00:51:59,584 --> 00:52:01,792
There was an aspect
of being adored.
667
00:52:03,917 --> 00:52:06,084
But it was difficult to keep up.
668
00:52:06,917 --> 00:52:09,751
And to be on tour
for months and months.
669
00:52:17,626 --> 00:52:20,751
There was constant,
serious dispute
670
00:52:20,917 --> 00:52:23,459
between Jack and Ginger
every day.
671
00:52:25,209 --> 00:52:27,959
It didn't matter to them what
they were arguing about really.
672
00:52:28,626 --> 00:52:31,292
It was just, they were
at each other's throats
673
00:52:32,209 --> 00:52:33,584
and it was very intense.
674
00:52:36,376 --> 00:52:37,709
We shut one another out,
675
00:52:37,876 --> 00:52:39,501
I mean I would just run away
from one another.
676
00:52:39,667 --> 00:52:40,876
We never socialized.
677
00:52:41,042 --> 00:52:42,959
We never really shared ideas
any more,
678
00:52:43,126 --> 00:52:45,459
we just got together on stage
and played
679
00:52:45,626 --> 00:52:47,167
and then
went out different ways.
680
00:52:48,417 --> 00:52:50,584
The whole thing was awful.
681
00:53:39,167 --> 00:53:41,626
Eric was picking up his guitar
at home.
682
00:53:41,792 --> 00:53:43,959
And twanging on it non-stop.
683
00:53:45,334 --> 00:53:46,917
Which is not always
the easiest thing
684
00:53:47,084 --> 00:53:49,501
when you're trying to have
a conversation with somebody.
685
00:53:52,126 --> 00:53:55,126
I remember finding myself
talking
686
00:53:55,292 --> 00:53:58,584
and I would get a riff
from the guitar back,
687
00:53:58,751 --> 00:54:00,792
rather than
proper communication.
688
00:54:07,709 --> 00:54:11,209
It was very hard to keep up
on an emotional, personal level.
689
00:54:14,084 --> 00:54:15,834
You know, I'm in love with Eric.
690
00:54:16,751 --> 00:54:18,792
And then the world's
in love with him.
691
00:54:19,917 --> 00:54:21,917
We just didn't talk about
feelings.
692
00:54:22,834 --> 00:54:24,917
Eric just wouldn't go there.
693
00:54:28,209 --> 00:54:31,709
I always felt he was
running away from something.
694
00:54:37,126 --> 00:54:39,501
He started going to George
and Pattie's quite a lot
695
00:54:39,667 --> 00:54:41,209
when they lived in Surrey.
696
00:54:42,376 --> 00:54:44,042
When Cream broke up,
I think spiritually,
697
00:54:44,209 --> 00:54:45,876
he was really rather bereft.
698
00:54:46,042 --> 00:54:48,459
And he enjoyed hanging out
and played guitar
699
00:54:48,626 --> 00:54:50,209
and started writing all day.
700
00:54:52,834 --> 00:54:53,709
Yes?
701
00:54:53,876 --> 00:54:54,876
Start again.
702
00:54:55,042 --> 00:54:56,001
Okay.
703
00:54:56,167 --> 00:54:57,626
George said,
"I'm going to do this song,
704
00:54:57,792 --> 00:54:58,751
"I want you to play
the guitar."
705
00:54:58,917 --> 00:55:01,376
- How we doing there, George?
- How we doing, Hal?
706
00:55:01,751 --> 00:55:04,084
We did maybe two or three takes,
707
00:55:04,251 --> 00:55:07,042
and there was a very few
attempts at the song.
708
00:55:07,209 --> 00:55:08,042
Yes?
709
00:55:08,209 --> 00:55:09,667
Just start again.
710
00:55:09,834 --> 00:55:12,459
They were fast and furious,
they were harsh judges.
711
00:56:39,126 --> 00:56:40,459
It was just one policeman.
712
00:56:40,626 --> 00:56:42,667
His name was Inspector Pilcher.
713
00:56:43,334 --> 00:56:45,001
He wanted to bust
all of the people
714
00:56:45,167 --> 00:56:46,959
that were in the pop business
for drugs.
715
00:56:47,751 --> 00:56:50,084
He ended up getting done
for corruption.
716
00:56:52,167 --> 00:56:53,417
He busted George
717
00:56:53,584 --> 00:56:55,959
and the word was,
he had planted dope.
718
00:56:58,126 --> 00:56:59,959
Ginger knew someone
in the police force,
719
00:57:00,126 --> 00:57:02,751
who said I was
on Pilcher's list.
720
00:57:04,709 --> 00:57:06,917
That night, the Pheasantry
got raided
721
00:57:07,084 --> 00:57:09,084
and they planted
hash everywhere.
722
00:57:11,417 --> 00:57:14,042
So I thought, well,
I better get out of town.
723
00:57:28,792 --> 00:57:30,751
It was the first time
I spent any money really,
724
00:57:30,917 --> 00:57:32,917
any of the money
that I made with Cream.
725
00:57:33,584 --> 00:57:35,667
I never owned anything before.
726
00:57:35,834 --> 00:57:38,334
I mean, I'd been bumming
around all my life
727
00:57:38,959 --> 00:57:41,667
from the day that I first
left Ripley.
728
00:57:44,584 --> 00:57:46,126
I just fell in love with it.
729
00:57:46,292 --> 00:57:48,792
I had the most incredible
feeling of coming home.
730
00:57:53,584 --> 00:57:56,251
Now, Eric had a house in Ewhurst
731
00:57:56,417 --> 00:57:58,084
which is just beyond Esher.
732
00:57:58,251 --> 00:57:59,834
So it's quite easy for
the two of them
733
00:58:00,001 --> 00:58:01,584
to go to each other's houses.
734
00:58:02,751 --> 00:58:06,584
And it was just like a really
nice friendship going on.
735
00:58:07,376 --> 00:58:10,792
George had a lot of respect
for Eric's guitar playing.
736
00:58:11,542 --> 00:58:12,792
It was just four friends.
737
00:58:13,709 --> 00:58:15,084
We'd hang out together
738
00:58:15,251 --> 00:58:17,501
and we'd go to
the restaurants and bars.
739
00:58:18,126 --> 00:58:20,417
He used to come over
to the house quite a lot.
740
00:58:21,626 --> 00:58:23,334
Not always to see George.
741
00:58:25,876 --> 00:58:27,751
I think as time went on.
742
00:58:27,917 --> 00:58:30,834
You know how some people
have that stare that's longer
743
00:58:31,001 --> 00:58:32,167
than it should be?
744
00:58:33,126 --> 00:58:34,959
And I caught a couple of those.
745
00:58:41,667 --> 00:58:43,167
I knew it was wrong.
746
00:58:45,251 --> 00:58:46,959
George was my best friend.
747
00:58:50,334 --> 00:58:52,959
But I felt a compulsion
towards her.
748
00:58:53,959 --> 00:58:57,001
That she was probably
the most desirable woman
749
00:58:57,167 --> 00:58:58,167
I had ever met.
750
00:59:00,501 --> 00:59:02,209
And even though,
they were married,
751
00:59:02,376 --> 00:59:03,334
I wanted her.
752
00:59:04,917 --> 00:59:06,584
Even though she was unavailable
753
00:59:08,251 --> 00:59:09,501
and that frightened me.
754
00:59:14,667 --> 00:59:16,792
I felt there was a big
confusion in his head
755
00:59:16,959 --> 00:59:20,042
about women and what they
represented to him.
756
00:59:21,917 --> 00:59:25,001
It was so intense
and he was so intense.
757
00:59:47,917 --> 00:59:50,834
It would have been OK, if my
daughter hadn't come home.
758
00:59:52,209 --> 00:59:54,584
'Cause he'd always call me Mum,
little Mum.
759
00:59:56,334 --> 00:59:57,959
But it never changed with him.
760
01:00:00,376 --> 01:00:03,501
When I was nine,
my grandmother said to me.
761
01:00:03,667 --> 01:00:06,209
This lady's coming
and she's your real mum
762
01:00:06,376 --> 01:00:07,584
and we're gonna go and meet her
763
01:00:07,751 --> 01:00:09,209
and she's gonna stay
for a little while.
764
01:00:11,626 --> 01:00:16,376
She arrived by boat and we went
to meet her at Southampton.
765
01:00:16,542 --> 01:00:18,334
She was on
one of those big liners.
766
01:00:19,667 --> 01:00:21,459
She came with two kids.
767
01:00:24,167 --> 01:00:26,292
Rick was very quiet that day.
768
01:00:26,959 --> 01:00:28,167
He's very shy.
769
01:00:29,709 --> 01:00:31,751
He wanted to see his real mum.
770
01:00:33,626 --> 01:00:36,292
And I think Rick
was looking for love.
771
01:00:39,042 --> 01:00:40,876
We got back to Ripley
772
01:00:41,042 --> 01:00:44,376
and then when everyone came down
to get a cup of tea or whatever.
773
01:00:45,167 --> 01:00:47,626
I wanted to know
the most important thing.
774
01:00:50,084 --> 01:00:52,584
"You're my mum,
are you gonna be my mum?"
775
01:00:55,584 --> 01:00:57,042
And she said,
776
01:00:57,209 --> 01:01:01,459
"No. I think it's best
we leave it the way it is."
777
01:01:05,834 --> 01:01:07,084
It was so cruel.
778
01:01:07,667 --> 01:01:09,876
She didn't like the fact
he called her, "mum."
779
01:01:12,626 --> 01:01:15,751
I couldn't believe anybody
could be so nasty.
780
01:01:18,667 --> 01:01:20,834
She brought her other son, Bryan
781
01:01:21,709 --> 01:01:24,042
and he said to Rick,
"Are you my brother?"
782
01:01:24,584 --> 01:01:25,751
And she heard that,
and she said,
783
01:01:25,917 --> 01:01:27,459
"No, he's not your brother."
784
01:01:28,292 --> 01:01:31,417
I couldn't believe it, she could
say things like that to a child.
785
01:01:37,126 --> 01:01:38,751
I was so angry with her.
786
01:01:41,167 --> 01:01:42,584
I just felt rejection.
787
01:01:47,001 --> 01:01:48,501
I didn't talk to anybody.
788
01:01:51,542 --> 01:01:54,751
I was more on my own
than I had ever been.
789
01:02:37,626 --> 01:02:40,709
Eric felt that he wanted to try
something a bit different
790
01:02:41,251 --> 01:02:43,917
musically and asked me
if I'd be interested.
791
01:02:45,001 --> 01:02:47,459
We were essentially
just experimenting.
792
01:02:55,042 --> 01:02:57,542
None of us more than Eric
I think,
793
01:02:57,709 --> 01:03:00,834
he was definitely going
through something.
794
01:03:10,667 --> 01:03:14,001
We were just having fun,
we hadn't got an agenda.
795
01:03:15,834 --> 01:03:18,501
I wrote a song called,
Presence of the Lord
796
01:03:18,667 --> 01:03:20,792
which it starts out
with the line,
797
01:03:20,959 --> 01:03:22,751
"I finally found a place
to live."
798
01:03:22,917 --> 01:03:25,042
And I was really writing
about Hurtwood.
799
01:04:34,459 --> 01:04:36,584
By now, Charlotte
had had enough.
800
01:04:37,042 --> 01:04:39,709
We broke up
and she'd gone back to Paris.
801
01:04:41,126 --> 01:04:45,251
And I had begun on and off
to see this girl, Alice.
802
01:04:46,209 --> 01:04:47,959
She was a great woman.
803
01:04:48,626 --> 01:04:52,167
But she didn't know that
I was obsessed with Pattie.
804
01:05:41,209 --> 01:05:44,167
One morning,
I woke up and opening the mail,
805
01:05:44,334 --> 01:05:47,542
I found this letter
with tiny little handwriting.
806
01:05:50,042 --> 01:05:52,376
And I opened it and it said,
807
01:05:53,876 --> 01:05:55,084
"Dearest L."
808
01:06:00,126 --> 01:06:02,917
The spacing of the words
and the size of the lettering
809
01:06:03,084 --> 01:06:05,042
compared to the size
of the page.
810
01:06:05,209 --> 01:06:08,334
It was quiet,
but it was full of passion.
811
01:06:10,542 --> 01:06:13,792
I almost had a sort of
physical reaction
812
01:06:13,959 --> 01:06:16,042
that somebody could write
something so amazingly
813
01:06:16,209 --> 01:06:18,334
beautiful and yet
keeping it quiet.
814
01:06:20,417 --> 01:06:22,251
It was bursting with passion.
815
01:06:29,334 --> 01:06:31,834
And later in the early evening,
816
01:06:32,001 --> 01:06:33,792
the phone rang and it was Eric.
817
01:06:34,792 --> 01:06:37,334
He said, "I mean
what I say in the letter."
818
01:06:51,084 --> 01:06:53,084
The very first time I met Eric,
819
01:06:53,251 --> 01:06:55,334
we were opening up
for Blind Faith.
820
01:06:55,917 --> 01:06:58,417
That band broke up,
so I called up Eric
821
01:06:58,584 --> 01:07:00,876
and I said,
"I just need to get away,
822
01:07:01,042 --> 01:07:02,667
and just to get quiet
for a while."
823
01:07:02,834 --> 01:07:04,834
And he said,
"Why don't you come over?"
824
01:07:05,001 --> 01:07:08,167
We just hung out and played
and watched silly programs
825
01:07:08,334 --> 01:07:09,417
and stuff, you know?
826
01:07:12,584 --> 01:07:15,501
I was offered a concert
which was a benefit, you know?
827
01:07:15,667 --> 01:07:17,251
I wouldn't make any money,
really but it was just a chance
828
01:07:17,417 --> 01:07:18,709
to play somewhere.
829
01:07:18,876 --> 01:07:21,084
Bobby and I thought,
"Why don't we do that?"
830
01:07:21,251 --> 01:07:22,459
So we only did
the rhythm section,
831
01:07:22,667 --> 01:07:24,709
but the only rhythm section
we knew that we could work with
832
01:07:24,876 --> 01:07:27,126
was Jim and Carl.
So we got Jim and Carl over.
833
01:07:29,251 --> 01:07:31,917
And I think that was
the only thing we had planned.
834
01:07:58,751 --> 01:08:02,209
It was all about
just playing constantly.
835
01:08:03,001 --> 01:08:06,084
There was times when
we jammed in E for like days.
836
01:08:20,751 --> 01:08:22,251
There was really no break
from it,
837
01:08:22,417 --> 01:08:24,667
there was like
a constant musical party.
838
01:08:25,667 --> 01:08:27,251
Everybody came over to visit.
839
01:08:31,792 --> 01:08:33,542
There was always
a lot of cocaine.
840
01:08:33,751 --> 01:08:36,584
A lot of Mandrax, which is kind
of like a Quaalude.
841
01:08:36,751 --> 01:08:40,626
LSD, mescaline
and a lot of pot, a lot of hash.
842
01:08:43,001 --> 01:08:45,584
I knew something was wrong
with Eric, he wasn't himself,
843
01:08:45,751 --> 01:08:48,334
he was very distracted
all the time.
844
01:08:48,501 --> 01:08:51,167
Whenever I saw Pattie,
I saw him perk up a little bit.
845
01:08:51,334 --> 01:08:53,292
He had a lot of pictures
of her around,
846
01:08:53,459 --> 01:08:54,626
like modeling pictures.
847
01:08:54,792 --> 01:08:57,001
I think that was even bigger
than his music,
848
01:08:57,167 --> 01:08:59,001
because he seemed
to be so obsessed.
849
01:09:04,167 --> 01:09:07,084
Eric started to phone me
and said, "Come on.
850
01:09:07,251 --> 01:09:09,501
You're obviously unhappy,
come away with me."
851
01:09:09,667 --> 01:09:10,917
And I'd say, "No, I can't.
852
01:09:11,542 --> 01:09:13,626
You know, I'm married
to George"and he'll say,
853
01:09:13,792 --> 01:09:14,792
"No, come on..."
854
01:09:16,292 --> 01:09:19,001
He was fun and awake and alive.
855
01:09:19,167 --> 01:09:21,292
It was the most
wonderful temptation
856
01:09:22,542 --> 01:09:24,501
and I could only compare
him to George
857
01:09:24,667 --> 01:09:26,792
who could be very cold
and would just turn off.
858
01:09:31,626 --> 01:09:33,917
So from time to time,
during the summer,
859
01:09:34,084 --> 01:09:35,542
Eric and I saw each other.
860
01:09:35,709 --> 01:09:39,376
We'd go to little places for
coffee, lunch or even dinner.
861
01:09:51,709 --> 01:09:55,501
George Harrison rang
one afternoon and he asked Eric,
862
01:09:55,667 --> 01:09:58,292
if he and I would like to play
on his first album
863
01:09:58,459 --> 01:09:59,501
that he's gonna do.
864
01:09:59,667 --> 01:10:01,292
He had all these songs,
you know?
865
01:10:02,584 --> 01:10:04,876
Eric and I had talked about
who we wanted in the band.
866
01:10:06,042 --> 01:10:07,626
Of course we knew,
we wanted Carl.
867
01:10:08,334 --> 01:10:10,917
And Jim Gordon
just storm trooped over
868
01:10:11,667 --> 01:10:13,584
and we were ready to go,
we couldn't wait.
869
01:10:13,751 --> 01:10:16,001
You know, because it was to go
into the studio and record
870
01:10:16,167 --> 01:10:17,084
All Things Must Pass.
871
01:10:18,209 --> 01:10:21,001
So, really, we put
the band together
872
01:10:21,167 --> 01:10:23,084
during the All Things Must Pass
sessions.
873
01:10:28,667 --> 01:10:31,917
That was our first recording,it was All Things Must Pass.
874
01:10:32,084 --> 01:10:34,084
It was the first Dominos
real recording.
875
01:10:36,001 --> 01:10:38,751
But that's when
the drugs were coming in.
876
01:10:39,667 --> 01:10:42,334
This guy would show up
at Abbey Road
877
01:10:43,001 --> 01:10:44,459
and sell you your coke
878
01:10:44,626 --> 01:10:47,126
but he'd make sure
that you bought smack as well.
879
01:10:48,209 --> 01:10:50,876
That was the deal, he wouldn't
sell you one without the other.
880
01:10:55,709 --> 01:10:57,417
Eric says,
"You wanna try some of this?
881
01:10:57,584 --> 01:10:58,834
You know, the heroin.
882
01:10:59,501 --> 01:11:02,459
I said, "No, man,
let me just watch you."
883
01:11:05,001 --> 01:11:08,251
He did it.
Just snorted it, you know?
884
01:11:08,417 --> 01:11:10,334
I said, "What does
it feel like?"
885
01:11:10,501 --> 01:11:14,001
He said, "Pink cotton wool
surrounding me."
886
01:11:22,542 --> 01:11:24,751
Then I went in
to a sort of trance.
887
01:11:25,626 --> 01:11:29,126
It got really mysterious
and I didn't know where I was.
888
01:11:32,417 --> 01:11:35,334
I had been given
a little Persian book.
889
01:11:36,876 --> 01:11:39,792
The love story about
Laila and Majnun.
890
01:11:42,584 --> 01:11:45,501
An absolute tragedy
of doomed love.
891
01:11:49,251 --> 01:11:53,042
The hero ends up alone
in the desert
892
01:11:55,626 --> 01:11:59,792
and gives his soul up
to Allah before dying alone.
893
01:12:02,459 --> 01:12:04,001
I saw myself as that.
894
01:12:05,292 --> 01:12:08,917
I saw the whole experience
with Pattie as tragedy.
895
01:12:14,209 --> 01:12:18,292
Things became rather
tricky with George and I.
896
01:12:20,251 --> 01:12:23,834
I met with Eric, we had
a drink in South Kensington,
897
01:12:24,001 --> 01:12:25,209
he had a flat there.
898
01:12:33,834 --> 01:12:36,001
Eric said, "You know,
I love you and I want you
899
01:12:36,167 --> 01:12:38,417
to be with me,
come away with me.
900
01:12:38,584 --> 01:12:41,126
I just feel that I need you."
901
01:12:51,834 --> 01:12:54,751
We'd been flirting
for quite a while.
902
01:12:56,001 --> 01:12:57,876
But we hadn't gone
over the line.
903
01:12:59,917 --> 01:13:01,417
But that evening.
904
01:13:02,959 --> 01:13:04,126
We made love.
905
01:13:13,792 --> 01:13:17,167
And then we realized that
we were supposed to be
906
01:13:17,334 --> 01:13:18,459
at this party.
907
01:13:23,167 --> 01:13:25,167
Everybody was there.
It was a big party.
908
01:13:25,334 --> 01:13:26,751
I went with Mick.
909
01:13:27,126 --> 01:13:30,167
Paul McCartney was there,
Eric was there.
910
01:13:31,417 --> 01:13:33,167
Pattie came without George.
911
01:13:36,459 --> 01:13:40,167
For the first time, it felt
like there was a chance for us.
912
01:13:41,626 --> 01:13:44,751
Eric said he wanted to talk
to me and we were in the garden.
913
01:13:45,126 --> 01:13:46,667
This was quite late, you know,
914
01:13:46,834 --> 01:13:48,667
because the sun was beginning
to come up.
915
01:13:50,876 --> 01:13:52,917
And George appeared from nowhere
916
01:13:53,626 --> 01:13:55,876
from the mists of the morning.
917
01:13:59,667 --> 01:14:01,959
And I said, "I have
to tell you something,
918
01:14:02,667 --> 01:14:04,209
I'm in love with your wife."
919
01:14:06,126 --> 01:14:09,417
And George looked
at me accusingly and said,
920
01:14:09,584 --> 01:14:11,584
"What are you gonna do,
are you going with him
921
01:14:11,751 --> 01:14:13,001
or are you coming back
with me?"
922
01:14:15,417 --> 01:14:17,126
I felt her detach.
923
01:14:17,917 --> 01:14:20,292
Right there and then,
I knew the deal was off.
924
01:14:22,334 --> 01:14:24,959
So I said, "George,
of course I'm going with you."
925
01:14:29,626 --> 01:14:33,251
There were no extra words,
there was nothing else
926
01:14:33,417 --> 01:14:36,751
to be discussed except who
was I going home with
927
01:14:36,917 --> 01:14:39,792
and I found that
deeply depressing.
928
01:14:43,709 --> 01:14:46,292
Everyone knew that
George was playing around
929
01:14:46,459 --> 01:14:49,376
but she was absolutely
loyal to him.
930
01:14:55,626 --> 01:14:57,709
And I thought,
"What do you want?
931
01:14:57,876 --> 01:15:00,376
Do you want to see me crawl
across the floor to you?
932
01:15:01,334 --> 01:15:02,667
What do I have to do?"
933
01:15:37,084 --> 01:15:41,292
Eric was going through
this major major trauma.
934
01:15:42,667 --> 01:15:45,792
That's why all that music
spoke that way.
935
01:15:45,959 --> 01:15:47,751
It was Eric telling
the truth about
936
01:15:47,917 --> 01:15:49,751
what was going on
with him right then.
937
01:15:49,917 --> 01:15:51,209
That was for sure.
938
01:16:02,709 --> 01:16:04,542
The people in the South
will go out back
939
01:16:04,709 --> 01:16:06,417
and roll around
in the gravel, you know?
940
01:16:06,584 --> 01:16:09,376
About being in love
with your best friend's wife.
941
01:16:10,584 --> 01:16:12,376
Eric did it musically.
942
01:16:13,126 --> 01:16:15,917
He wanted so much
to get Pattie back
943
01:16:16,084 --> 01:16:17,959
and he said
it was time to record.
944
01:17:00,459 --> 01:17:02,626
When we got to Miami.
945
01:17:02,792 --> 01:17:05,876
We set up in Thunderbird
motel down there,
946
01:17:06,042 --> 01:17:09,751
with very large bags of cocaine.
947
01:17:11,959 --> 01:17:14,834
We really didn't have
enough songs for an album.
948
01:17:15,709 --> 01:17:17,334
But we had faith.
949
01:17:19,751 --> 01:17:21,792
Played all day,
played all night.
950
01:17:21,959 --> 01:17:24,542
Get back to hotel,
hole up in Eric's room
951
01:17:24,709 --> 01:17:26,917
or something and playing
that thing.
952
01:17:30,376 --> 01:17:34,126
Once more, once more,
once more. Sorry.
953
01:17:44,876 --> 01:17:49,126
They started playing
me concepts for songs
954
01:17:49,292 --> 01:17:51,792
that they had not
finalized the arrangements on
955
01:17:52,292 --> 01:17:54,792
and I just kept tape
rolling for a day or two,
956
01:17:54,959 --> 01:17:57,792
because I was learning the songs
as they were playing them
957
01:17:57,959 --> 01:18:00,542
and the songs and
the arrangements were evolving.
958
01:18:00,709 --> 01:18:03,376
I can't do it. When it
gets a little more complicated
959
01:18:03,542 --> 01:18:05,792
than a simple harmony,
I'm not sure if I could.
960
01:18:05,959 --> 01:18:08,417
What if I started
out and did the first...
961
01:18:08,584 --> 01:18:09,709
Is the guitar?
962
01:18:10,167 --> 01:18:11,167
Yeah.
963
01:18:48,709 --> 01:18:50,959
About two weeks
into the sessions,
964
01:18:51,292 --> 01:18:52,751
we hit a brick wall.
965
01:18:54,334 --> 01:18:56,834
We got stuck,
really badly stuck.
966
01:18:58,126 --> 01:19:00,459
I'd written part
of the song in England.
967
01:19:01,292 --> 01:19:02,501
For Pattie.
968
01:19:02,667 --> 01:19:05,334
It had this sort of story
overlaid on it
969
01:19:05,501 --> 01:19:08,334
about a little Persian book.
Laila and Majnum.
970
01:19:09,334 --> 01:19:10,834
And I couldn't finish it.
971
01:19:12,167 --> 01:19:14,417
What will you do
when you get lonely?
972
01:19:29,417 --> 01:19:33,042
That was for sure, a tortured
soul singing right there.
973
01:19:34,001 --> 01:19:36,167
But things were getting
complicated.
974
01:19:36,334 --> 01:19:38,501
The band really needed
a new direction.
975
01:20:13,876 --> 01:20:17,084
Tom Dowd took us all
to see the Allman Brothers.
976
01:20:18,001 --> 01:20:20,751
And I was completely
blown away by this band
977
01:20:20,917 --> 01:20:23,376
and they just were
incredible musicians.
978
01:20:35,876 --> 01:20:37,292
Eric had never met Duane.
979
01:20:37,459 --> 01:20:40,126
He heard about Duane, but Duane
and I were already tight.
980
01:20:41,917 --> 01:20:44,084
It was Duane's show,
he ran that band,
981
01:20:44,251 --> 01:20:45,667
he was the band leader.
982
01:21:07,376 --> 01:21:08,542
That was it.
983
01:21:08,709 --> 01:21:11,376
After the show, we asked him
to come back and we jammed
984
01:21:11,542 --> 01:21:12,709
all night long.
985
01:21:15,292 --> 01:21:16,917
I went down to Miami
986
01:21:17,084 --> 01:21:18,834
Tom Dowd said "I know you want
to watch this cat play
987
01:21:19,001 --> 01:21:20,709
'cos I know you've always
thought he's the best"
988
01:21:20,876 --> 01:21:21,709
and I have, man...
989
01:21:22,292 --> 01:21:25,126
I love his playing, I love the
attitude in which he plays,
990
01:21:25,292 --> 01:21:26,667
I love everything he does,
991
01:21:26,876 --> 01:21:29,376
he's a very wonderful,
very beautiful man.
992
01:21:30,042 --> 01:21:31,667
So I shot down there, man.
993
01:21:32,084 --> 01:21:33,626
And Eric says
"Bring your amp in...
994
01:21:33,792 --> 01:21:35,042
hook yourself up man,
995
01:21:35,209 --> 01:21:36,917
and we'll play,
we'll make us an album"
996
01:21:37,084 --> 01:21:38,209
and I said "OK, man
997
01:21:38,376 --> 01:21:40,167
if that's what you want,
that's what we'll do"
998
01:21:40,334 --> 01:21:41,959
and then we did it.
999
01:23:36,334 --> 01:23:38,834
- What you got?
- My hands are dead!
1000
01:23:42,334 --> 01:23:44,792
I play the Gibson,
Eric plays the Fender
1001
01:23:44,959 --> 01:23:45,959
all the way through.
1002
01:23:46,126 --> 01:23:48,292
So, if you can tell a Gibson
from a Fender, there you go!
1003
01:23:48,459 --> 01:23:51,751
If you can't you just go ahead
and hallucinate, I don't care!
1004
01:23:52,084 --> 01:23:53,542
I got two slide tracks on it,
1005
01:23:53,709 --> 01:23:55,376
Eric's got an acoustic track
on it
1006
01:23:55,542 --> 01:23:57,251
and I believe there's an extra
percussion track on it too,
1007
01:23:57,417 --> 01:23:58,417
I'm not sure.
1008
01:23:58,584 --> 01:24:00,959
There's a lot of goodness on
that album man, I mean it.
1009
01:24:02,584 --> 01:24:05,084
Duane and I just
became inseparable
1010
01:24:05,251 --> 01:24:07,084
for the rest of the time
we were there.
1011
01:24:07,251 --> 01:24:09,292
He was the catalyst we needed.
1012
01:24:12,251 --> 01:24:14,001
It was all about love songs.
1013
01:24:14,751 --> 01:24:16,834
Ballads with a different tempo.
1014
01:24:17,667 --> 01:24:21,042
It was that what
we can't see or touch
1015
01:24:21,209 --> 01:24:23,459
or smell, or taste or feel.
1016
01:24:24,292 --> 01:24:26,417
And of course,
it was all about Pattie.
1017
01:24:27,251 --> 01:24:30,501
That's why Eric is singing all
that pain and agony and stuff.
1018
01:24:49,709 --> 01:24:53,167
I met with Eric
in South Kensington
1019
01:24:53,917 --> 01:24:56,251
he said, "I've got something
for you to hear."
1020
01:25:04,751 --> 01:25:06,042
He played me this album.
1021
01:25:07,959 --> 01:25:11,042
My gosh, it was so powerful.
1022
01:25:28,042 --> 01:25:30,626
I was at bursting point
of emotion.
1023
01:25:32,376 --> 01:25:34,834
I couldn't believe that
I was the inspiration
1024
01:25:35,001 --> 01:25:36,584
for him putting this together.
1025
01:25:38,001 --> 01:25:39,876
I thought when I heard it,
1026
01:25:40,042 --> 01:25:42,084
that everyone would know
it was about me.
1027
01:25:49,667 --> 01:25:51,542
And I didn't want this
to happen.
1028
01:25:53,251 --> 01:25:54,834
I couldn't stop listening to it.
1029
01:25:56,542 --> 01:25:58,376
But once the album was finished,
1030
01:25:58,542 --> 01:26:00,751
I couldn't wait to get out
and go home.
1031
01:26:23,459 --> 01:26:24,834
It didn't work.
1032
01:26:34,001 --> 01:26:35,376
It was all for nothing.
1033
01:26:37,334 --> 01:26:38,626
It was like a...
1034
01:26:42,459 --> 01:26:43,501
Rejection.
1035
01:26:59,376 --> 01:27:01,917
The Jimi Hendrix Experience
is over.
1036
01:27:02,084 --> 01:27:05,334
The acid rock musician
died today in a London hospital
1037
01:27:05,501 --> 01:27:07,792
apparently from an overdose
of drugs.
1038
01:27:07,959 --> 01:27:11,917
During his short career, Hendrix
flailed his electric guitar
1039
01:27:12,084 --> 01:27:15,709
into some of the most unusual
sounds of an unusual music.
1040
01:27:25,209 --> 01:27:27,709
I went out into
the garden and cried all day.
1041
01:27:27,876 --> 01:27:29,959
'Cause he left me behind.
1042
01:27:31,334 --> 01:27:32,917
And not because he's gone,
1043
01:27:33,084 --> 01:27:35,042
but because he hadn't taken me
with him.
1044
01:27:36,626 --> 01:27:38,834
This made me so fucking angry.
1045
01:27:53,751 --> 01:27:55,751
Well,
it shattered Eric, you know?
1046
01:27:55,917 --> 01:27:59,376
We had just recorded Little Wing
couple of weeks before that.
1047
01:28:00,292 --> 01:28:02,126
That was Eric's tribute to Jimi.
1048
01:28:02,501 --> 01:28:04,834
So that had a huge impact
on Eric.
1049
01:28:23,834 --> 01:28:25,959
Morning, spot me on the
Bee Gees and the other one.
1050
01:28:26,126 --> 01:28:26,959
Excellent.
1051
01:28:27,126 --> 01:28:29,209
You hear the new mix down there.
1052
01:28:29,376 --> 01:28:30,584
Eric, you're...
1053
01:28:30,751 --> 01:28:32,417
That Derek, they oughta be
a smash hit.
1054
01:28:32,584 --> 01:28:34,209
I'm telling you, it's a mass...
1055
01:28:34,376 --> 01:28:36,459
Bill Baxter, Greenberg.
1056
01:28:36,959 --> 01:28:39,167
Jerry Greenberg.
All right, yeah.
1057
01:28:39,334 --> 01:28:41,626
Derek and the Dominos,
25 for cash box
1058
01:28:41,792 --> 01:28:43,417
and 24 for record.
1059
01:28:44,709 --> 01:28:49,292
I considered Eric the most
major artist on our label.
1060
01:28:51,001 --> 01:28:55,251
So I couldn't believe the record
wasn't selling in America.
1061
01:28:57,876 --> 01:28:59,209
I didn't know what to do.
1062
01:29:00,959 --> 01:29:05,959
And he knew, it was because
nobody knew that Derek was Eric.
1063
01:29:06,542 --> 01:29:10,209
So, at that time,
Eric was very vulnerable.
1064
01:29:11,376 --> 01:29:14,334
Why not call the group...
by your name?
1065
01:29:15,709 --> 01:29:19,084
Everybody knows...
that Derek and the Dominos
1066
01:29:20,501 --> 01:29:22,751
are Eric Clapton,
you know what I mean?
1067
01:29:23,376 --> 01:29:25,209
But then, what's the difference?
1068
01:29:25,376 --> 01:29:26,876
But, why, why not?
1069
01:29:27,501 --> 01:29:28,667
Well, because...
1070
01:29:32,209 --> 01:29:35,334
I guess it's just more fun
to have a name, you know...
1071
01:29:35,501 --> 01:29:37,709
It's just lighter, you know?
1072
01:29:39,501 --> 01:29:40,917
I read something somewhere
1073
01:29:41,084 --> 01:29:43,792
about the idea that you wanna
give up touring,
1074
01:29:43,959 --> 01:29:45,751
you're not considering
giving it all up?
1075
01:29:46,917 --> 01:29:49,042
I don't think I could
ever stop playing.
1076
01:29:49,542 --> 01:29:51,459
You know,
like I could vanish anytime,
1077
01:29:51,626 --> 01:29:55,126
I could just stop
making appearances at anytime.
1078
01:29:55,292 --> 01:29:58,376
I think I could,
I think that's quite easy.
1079
01:29:58,876 --> 01:30:00,876
You know, financially
if I was secure enough
1080
01:30:01,042 --> 01:30:02,501
to able to not have to go
on the road
1081
01:30:02,667 --> 01:30:04,042
which I'm not at the moment,
1082
01:30:04,209 --> 01:30:06,792
I need to go out to make money
to exist.
1083
01:30:07,709 --> 01:30:09,209
If I didn't need to do that,
1084
01:30:09,376 --> 01:30:12,626
as long as I had someone
around me to play with.
1085
01:30:13,917 --> 01:30:16,626
I could probably just
stay at home all the time.
1086
01:30:30,042 --> 01:30:32,042
He just finished a show
in America.
1087
01:30:34,084 --> 01:30:35,917
And I rang him up, and I said,
1088
01:30:37,501 --> 01:30:38,667
"Dad's dying."
1089
01:30:43,667 --> 01:30:45,626
He had this tumor on the brain.
1090
01:30:50,251 --> 01:30:52,042
He said, "I'll catch the next
plane back."
1091
01:30:52,209 --> 01:30:54,417
Luckily he hadn't got any more
shows that night.
1092
01:30:58,292 --> 01:31:00,292
But the day after the funeral
he had to go back
1093
01:31:00,459 --> 01:31:02,251
and play on a show that night,
you know.
1094
01:31:03,042 --> 01:31:05,376
That'd break his heart.
He really loved him.
1095
01:31:30,667 --> 01:31:32,667
I feel much
more alone these days.
1096
01:31:33,209 --> 01:31:35,459
You know and if I'm alone,
I'll cry.
1097
01:31:35,626 --> 01:31:37,584
You know, literally just weep.
1098
01:31:39,876 --> 01:31:41,584
What I want most is out.
1099
01:31:42,417 --> 01:31:44,001
You know, out of everything.
1100
01:31:45,751 --> 01:31:48,792
Because, right now, all I can
see is the suffering of today
1101
01:31:48,959 --> 01:31:50,417
and the suffering of tomorrow.
1102
01:31:55,584 --> 01:31:58,126
How would you describe
your relationship with heroin?
1103
01:32:02,917 --> 01:32:04,209
It comes first.
1104
01:32:04,626 --> 01:32:06,042
- In your life?
- Yeah.
1105
01:32:06,876 --> 01:32:10,001
It's like surrounding yourself
in pink cotton wool, you know?
1106
01:32:10,459 --> 01:32:12,542
Nothing bothers you,
whatsoever, man.
1107
01:32:12,709 --> 01:32:15,292
Nothing will faze you out,
in any way.
1108
01:32:16,751 --> 01:32:18,334
I also have this death wish.
1109
01:32:18,917 --> 01:32:19,917
- Really?
- Yeah!
1110
01:32:20,084 --> 01:32:20,876
Why?
1111
01:32:21,251 --> 01:32:22,709
I don't like life.
1112
01:32:22,876 --> 01:32:24,292
- You don't like life?
- No.
1113
01:32:25,084 --> 01:32:26,959
And I'm not gonna live very long.
1114
01:32:35,917 --> 01:32:37,834
Eric went into seclusion.
1115
01:32:39,501 --> 01:32:42,209
He turned and walked away,
without us.
1116
01:32:42,792 --> 01:32:44,584
And he got off into the heroin.
1117
01:32:46,959 --> 01:32:49,001
And I was gonna stay there
and wait it out.
1118
01:32:49,167 --> 01:32:51,542
But it didn't seem like
it was ever gonna happen.
1119
01:32:55,042 --> 01:32:57,667
I thought it was the beginning,
you know.
1120
01:32:58,209 --> 01:32:59,792
I didn't know it was the end.
1121
01:33:43,876 --> 01:33:45,501
I was in Wales at the time,
1122
01:33:45,667 --> 01:33:48,376
and I went down to Hurtwood
where he lived.
1123
01:33:51,667 --> 01:33:54,209
I didn't know anything
about heroin addiction.
1124
01:33:54,917 --> 01:33:57,334
I just thought because
I was one of his oldest friends,
1125
01:33:57,542 --> 01:33:59,209
if not his oldest friend,
1126
01:33:59,792 --> 01:34:02,209
there just might be something
we could talk about.
1127
01:34:06,251 --> 01:34:10,542
And I saw him moving past the
window upstairs in the house.
1128
01:34:11,792 --> 01:34:13,167
But the house was locked.
1129
01:34:17,626 --> 01:34:20,542
And nobody had responded
to me ringing the bell,
1130
01:34:20,709 --> 01:34:21,792
knocking the door.
1131
01:34:22,876 --> 01:34:25,126
In the end, I figured,
"He doesn't want to see you,"
1132
01:34:25,292 --> 01:34:26,626
and I left him alone.
1133
01:34:50,167 --> 01:34:52,626
I didn't see him
for a long time.
1134
01:34:52,792 --> 01:34:56,167
I thought to myself,
given his family history so far,
1135
01:34:56,334 --> 01:34:58,876
this is going to be very
difficult for him
1136
01:34:59,042 --> 01:35:00,042
to get through.
1137
01:35:01,042 --> 01:35:02,876
There are things you don't
get over.
1138
01:35:04,001 --> 01:35:06,334
You have to find a comfortable
place to put them.
1139
01:35:08,251 --> 01:35:09,626
But they're always there.
1140
01:35:33,542 --> 01:35:36,167
With '74 tour, we started
Scandinavia at first,
1141
01:35:36,334 --> 01:35:37,459
just as a warm up.
1142
01:35:38,417 --> 01:35:41,209
He was fragile,
I'm not sure whether he was
1143
01:35:41,376 --> 01:35:43,001
really aware of everything
around him.
1144
01:35:43,167 --> 01:35:44,667
What was going on around him.
1145
01:35:49,876 --> 01:35:51,667
I managed to come off heroin.
1146
01:35:51,834 --> 01:35:54,251
But I just went from
one addiction to another.
1147
01:35:55,501 --> 01:35:59,334
And the attitude back then
was that alcohol was okay.
1148
01:36:00,126 --> 01:36:03,501
But for me, alcohol was far
more dangerous than heroin.
1149
01:36:04,167 --> 01:36:05,834
Mr. Eric Clapton!
1150
01:36:10,376 --> 01:36:12,834
Whether it be record label
forcing him,
1151
01:36:13,001 --> 01:36:15,584
management forcing him,
may have been a little too quick
1152
01:36:15,751 --> 01:36:17,001
going on a huge tour like that,
1153
01:36:17,167 --> 01:36:19,251
and throwing him back into
the public limelight
1154
01:36:19,417 --> 01:36:22,792
after being a hermit through
the past four or five years.
1155
01:36:26,792 --> 01:36:27,917
I'll drink to that.
1156
01:36:34,792 --> 01:36:38,084
Eric discovered Courvoisier
and Remy Martin
1157
01:36:38,251 --> 01:36:39,667
and just went into it.
1158
01:36:40,626 --> 01:36:42,501
If he got a hold of something,
1159
01:36:42,667 --> 01:36:44,709
he'd hit at it
until it was gone.
1160
01:36:45,209 --> 01:36:46,334
And before you know it,
1161
01:36:46,501 --> 01:36:48,376
he'd be through a whole bottle
of cognac
1162
01:36:48,542 --> 01:36:50,417
before lunch time's over.
1163
01:36:51,542 --> 01:36:53,834
It looked like
he wanted to kill himself.
1164
01:37:03,376 --> 01:37:06,126
I'm drunk and I'm ready
to fucking trouble.
1165
01:37:12,709 --> 01:37:14,209
Clean up your act.
1166
01:37:17,417 --> 01:37:19,292
Some shows, he'd play 30 minutes
1167
01:37:19,459 --> 01:37:21,001
and say, "I'm done."
1168
01:37:21,542 --> 01:37:24,709
You know the contract may
have said an hour and a half.
1169
01:37:24,876 --> 01:37:28,501
But you also have 25, 000,
30, 000 people that have...
1170
01:37:28,667 --> 01:37:31,376
Get a little upset...
That you just left.
1171
01:37:31,542 --> 01:37:33,501
Sit down and shut up!
1172
01:37:33,667 --> 01:37:36,542
It was still legal to throw
bottles and coolers
1173
01:37:36,709 --> 01:37:39,334
and can openers and whatever
you want to throw up there,
1174
01:37:39,501 --> 01:37:40,667
you could throw.
1175
01:37:41,209 --> 01:37:43,042
You'd think your life
is in jeopardy.
1176
01:37:45,001 --> 01:37:46,751
Jamie Oldaker!
1177
01:37:50,667 --> 01:37:52,167
Smile, you cunt!
1178
01:38:19,376 --> 01:38:22,209
The first disappointing
confrontation with my mother
1179
01:38:22,376 --> 01:38:23,792
was when I was nine.
1180
01:38:26,042 --> 01:38:29,917
I learned how to recover from
that over the next few years.
1181
01:38:30,667 --> 01:38:32,042
Becoming good at art
1182
01:38:32,209 --> 01:38:34,626
and developing a strong interest
in music.
1183
01:38:38,876 --> 01:38:42,084
By then I'd kind of developed
a personal look.
1184
01:38:46,334 --> 01:38:49,167
He bought a pale blue silk suit,
1185
01:38:49,334 --> 01:38:50,959
when he was about seventeen.
1186
01:38:51,126 --> 01:38:52,792
And of course I'd never seen
anything like that
1187
01:38:52,959 --> 01:38:54,209
in Ripley before.
1188
01:38:54,751 --> 01:38:56,834
And he'd have to take
the collars off his shirts
1189
01:38:57,001 --> 01:38:58,501
and put white ones on.
1190
01:38:58,667 --> 01:39:00,042
Don't matter what color
the shirt.
1191
01:39:00,626 --> 01:39:02,084
And of course he had
his hair done.
1192
01:39:02,251 --> 01:39:04,751
He got talked about it in Ripley
because of that.
1193
01:39:05,209 --> 01:39:07,251
He was very, very dressy,
you know.
1194
01:39:09,834 --> 01:39:13,417
I had my guitar and
that was my total companion
1195
01:39:13,584 --> 01:39:14,959
in its little case.
1196
01:39:18,542 --> 01:39:21,334
And then there came this
invitation to go to Germany,
1197
01:39:21,501 --> 01:39:24,626
because Pat's husband
had been stationed there
1198
01:39:25,084 --> 01:39:26,959
with the Canadian Air Force.
1199
01:39:30,126 --> 01:39:32,292
He came over to visit us
in Germany
1200
01:39:32,459 --> 01:39:34,501
and he was just so keen
on the guitar.
1201
01:39:34,667 --> 01:39:37,292
And we said, if he wanted
to bring the guitar with him
1202
01:39:37,459 --> 01:39:38,542
to practice, he could.
1203
01:39:38,709 --> 01:39:40,584
Because really and truly,
like everybody else,
1204
01:39:40,751 --> 01:39:42,376
we didn't take it seriously.
1205
01:39:43,917 --> 01:39:47,126
We're on an army camp
and I didn't fit.
1206
01:39:49,126 --> 01:39:52,751
And it was suggested to me
that I should get a haircut.
1207
01:39:55,167 --> 01:39:58,584
I said, "I'd rather not,
I like my hair the way it is."
1208
01:40:02,709 --> 01:40:05,042
My mother put on this face like,
1209
01:40:05,584 --> 01:40:07,084
"Dare to defy me."
1210
01:40:07,751 --> 01:40:09,459
And I thought,
"I don't like you.
1211
01:40:10,667 --> 01:40:12,292
"You don't want me anyway.
1212
01:40:12,459 --> 01:40:15,376
And now you really
don't want me the way I am."
1213
01:40:21,917 --> 01:40:24,251
Rose said, "Please, do this."
1214
01:40:24,417 --> 01:40:26,167
Just to keep everybody happy.
1215
01:40:33,042 --> 01:40:34,834
So they gave me a crew cut.
1216
01:40:38,667 --> 01:40:40,084
It made me cry.
1217
01:40:46,751 --> 01:40:49,667
And a couple of days later,
my brother came in,
1218
01:40:49,834 --> 01:40:52,084
my half-brother and sat
on the guitar
1219
01:40:52,834 --> 01:40:54,959
and broke the neck
clean in half.
1220
01:40:58,626 --> 01:41:01,667
It was like, everything was
done to demolish
1221
01:41:01,834 --> 01:41:03,084
my personality
1222
01:41:04,126 --> 01:41:05,792
and make me null and void.
1223
01:41:07,501 --> 01:41:09,876
I was full of hatred,
anger and resentment.
1224
01:41:13,417 --> 01:41:15,167
So I thought, "Okay."
1225
01:41:18,876 --> 01:41:21,001
"That's the last time
I trust anyone."
1226
01:41:31,001 --> 01:41:34,292
Things became very difficult
with George and I,
1227
01:41:34,459 --> 01:41:37,751
and we decided it would be
better if we parted.
1228
01:41:38,459 --> 01:41:42,626
I heard that Eric was on a tour.
I went to surprise him.
1229
01:41:44,126 --> 01:41:46,334
Our relationship
hadn't been completed.
1230
01:41:46,501 --> 01:41:50,001
There was clearly more to it
than just snatched meetings.
1231
01:41:52,251 --> 01:41:54,751
I hadn't seen her
for all those years.
1232
01:41:56,334 --> 01:41:57,792
Pattie must have known
1233
01:41:57,959 --> 01:41:59,959
she was getting involved
with someone
1234
01:42:00,126 --> 01:42:01,709
who was pretty unstable.
1235
01:42:04,709 --> 01:42:07,959
As much as I could love
someone, I loved her.
1236
01:42:09,417 --> 01:42:11,709
I was not just screwed up,
but you know,
1237
01:42:11,876 --> 01:42:13,792
a full blown addict by then.
1238
01:42:16,751 --> 01:42:21,626
Maybe I never got beyond just
wanting her from a distance.
1239
01:42:24,167 --> 01:42:26,251
We would do all sorts
of things together
1240
01:42:27,626 --> 01:42:29,417
and he would say, he loves me.
1241
01:42:30,126 --> 01:42:32,751
But he wanted
to drink all the time
1242
01:42:32,917 --> 01:42:34,167
and it just increased.
1243
01:42:35,501 --> 01:42:38,126
But then when he had
too much to drink
1244
01:42:38,292 --> 01:42:40,542
or became really seriously
unpleasant
1245
01:42:40,709 --> 01:42:42,917
and I felt that he didn't love
me either.
1246
01:42:43,084 --> 01:42:44,792
So this was really ghastly
1247
01:42:44,959 --> 01:42:48,376
until maybe the next day
and he'd be loving again.
1248
01:42:49,334 --> 01:42:50,876
He was quite scary,
1249
01:42:51,251 --> 01:42:54,209
and he would scream
at me across hotel lobbies.
1250
01:42:56,042 --> 01:42:58,376
He was just listening
to a different drummer
1251
01:42:58,542 --> 01:43:00,042
when he was that drunk.
1252
01:43:04,959 --> 01:43:06,459
Mind if I have a drink?
1253
01:43:07,292 --> 01:43:08,126
No?
1254
01:43:12,709 --> 01:43:17,001
"Shut up... you just keep
relying on your past, mate!"
1255
01:43:20,001 --> 01:43:23,084
I tell you what, do you want
to come on stage and talk...
1256
01:43:23,251 --> 01:43:25,542
You want to come up
here and talk about it?
1257
01:43:25,709 --> 01:43:27,834
I'll fucking have you,
I'll tell ya.
1258
01:43:31,542 --> 01:43:34,001
It got to be a point
of wondering,
1259
01:43:34,501 --> 01:43:38,084
each show, what's going to
happen tomorrow night?
1260
01:43:39,667 --> 01:43:42,126
And I used to ask Carl,
"What's up with this guy?
1261
01:43:42,292 --> 01:43:43,959
They told me
he's a nice guy."
1262
01:43:44,126 --> 01:43:46,376
"You know, I have
to lock my doors every night
1263
01:43:46,542 --> 01:43:48,917
and hide from this guy,
'cause he's out of his mind."
1264
01:44:26,792 --> 01:44:29,667
When I realized what I said,
1265
01:44:30,667 --> 01:44:33,001
I just was so disgusted
with myself.
1266
01:44:33,626 --> 01:44:35,167
I was so fucking angry.
1267
01:44:37,459 --> 01:44:39,751
And I thought I needed to
apologize to the people
1268
01:44:39,917 --> 01:44:41,292
I said that to.
1269
01:44:42,001 --> 01:44:44,542
Because it was shocking
and unforgivable
1270
01:44:44,709 --> 01:44:46,876
and I was so ashamed
of who I was.
1271
01:44:48,042 --> 01:44:52,167
I was becoming not only
chauvinistic but fascistic too.
1272
01:44:52,834 --> 01:44:54,709
I was a kind of a semi racist
1273
01:44:55,959 --> 01:44:57,501
which didn't make sense.
1274
01:44:59,251 --> 01:45:01,626
I mean, half of my friends
were black.
1275
01:45:02,376 --> 01:45:05,251
I dated black women
and listened to black music
1276
01:45:05,417 --> 01:45:07,292
and championed black music.
1277
01:45:09,709 --> 01:45:11,501
But it didn't matter at all.
1278
01:45:13,626 --> 01:45:15,042
They could have all gone
to the wall
1279
01:45:15,209 --> 01:45:16,584
as long as I had the bottle.
1280
01:45:17,792 --> 01:45:21,084
I hated everything.
Everything.
1281
01:45:26,751 --> 01:45:29,167
I thought I had
this dream, you know?
1282
01:45:29,334 --> 01:45:33,001
About the perfect band,
you know?
1283
01:45:33,167 --> 01:45:36,001
You know...
the virtuoso
1284
01:45:36,792 --> 01:45:38,417
of each instrument, you know?
1285
01:45:38,584 --> 01:45:40,001
I thought I was a virtuoso.
1286
01:45:40,167 --> 01:45:41,417
My instrument,
1287
01:45:41,584 --> 01:45:44,792
thought Jack and Ginger
was the virtuoso
1288
01:45:45,792 --> 01:45:48,959
and, we all thought that.
1289
01:45:49,459 --> 01:45:51,751
I'm sad that it
actually ever happen, really.
1290
01:45:53,626 --> 01:45:54,709
Because...
1291
01:45:55,917 --> 01:45:57,542
I mean, I wouldn't want
to change anything
1292
01:45:57,709 --> 01:45:59,084
but probably would've
done better
1293
01:45:59,251 --> 01:46:00,501
to stay with John Mayall.
1294
01:46:03,084 --> 01:46:07,292
Because it was that Cream thing,
it was all like...
1295
01:46:09,376 --> 01:46:11,084
It was just aggressive music.
1296
01:46:19,709 --> 01:46:21,126
It's not even worth it, is it?
1297
01:46:22,084 --> 01:46:25,542
Just fucking do it.
She's got another stash.
1298
01:46:28,001 --> 01:46:30,334
Eric was a very sad person.
1299
01:46:32,417 --> 01:46:33,459
Very, very sad.
1300
01:46:39,876 --> 01:46:42,292
He was a broken man
1301
01:46:42,459 --> 01:46:44,626
who can't cope,
who can hardly speak.
1302
01:46:47,542 --> 01:46:49,501
He started having seizures
1303
01:46:50,251 --> 01:46:53,251
and then the doctor said to me,
unless he stopped drinking,
1304
01:46:53,417 --> 01:46:54,667
he would die.
1305
01:47:24,334 --> 01:47:26,417
The only reason
I didn't commit suicide
1306
01:47:27,042 --> 01:47:28,959
was the fact that I wouldn't
be able to drink any more
1307
01:47:29,126 --> 01:47:30,251
if I was dead.
1308
01:47:32,459 --> 01:47:36,209
My capacity for the love
of alcohol was boundless.
1309
01:47:37,501 --> 01:47:39,209
So I drank and drank and drank.
1310
01:47:39,876 --> 01:47:41,834
Again and again and again.
1311
01:48:23,167 --> 01:48:25,334
When making records
during the drunken period.
1312
01:48:25,501 --> 01:48:27,459
I personally find it difficult
to listen to,
1313
01:48:27,626 --> 01:48:29,334
because I can hear
how drunk I am.
1314
01:48:32,251 --> 01:48:34,084
All of these albums have,
1315
01:48:34,792 --> 01:48:37,084
elements where
it's moved up a notch.
1316
01:48:38,876 --> 01:48:41,709
I've been given
the chance to sing and play
1317
01:48:42,126 --> 01:48:44,126
in a way that I hadn't before.
1318
01:48:48,792 --> 01:48:51,167
I went off to Monserrat,
to make this album.
1319
01:48:51,334 --> 01:48:53,876
A lot of things took place
while I was there.
1320
01:48:54,501 --> 01:48:57,667
I had had an affair
with the studio manageress,
1321
01:48:58,251 --> 01:49:01,334
George Martin's
Air Studios in Montserrat.
1322
01:49:01,501 --> 01:49:03,459
A lovely woman called Yvonne,
1323
01:49:03,626 --> 01:49:06,334
very attractive lady,
very funny, very witty.
1324
01:49:06,501 --> 01:49:08,626
And I got a letter from her
1325
01:49:08,792 --> 01:49:11,584
saying she was pregnant
with a daughter
1326
01:49:11,751 --> 01:49:14,584
and that she didn't have
any expectations from me.
1327
01:49:14,751 --> 01:49:16,292
She was going to try
and raise the child
1328
01:49:16,459 --> 01:49:18,001
in her existing marriage.
1329
01:49:19,042 --> 01:49:22,001
I just knew I wasn't capable
of having a relationship.
1330
01:49:25,626 --> 01:49:28,167
Okay, let's just
do it more acappella.
1331
01:49:28,626 --> 01:49:30,917
One, two, three, four.
1332
01:49:49,417 --> 01:49:51,542
"To understand each other."
1333
01:49:52,126 --> 01:49:54,126
Am I gonna remember that?
1334
01:49:55,001 --> 01:49:56,251
Well, you wrote it.
1335
01:49:57,709 --> 01:50:01,001
I was in absolute
denial about my alcoholism.
1336
01:50:01,917 --> 01:50:05,042
I had gone to the best
treatment center in the world
1337
01:50:05,209 --> 01:50:09,501
but I got into dope again
and alcohol and blow.
1338
01:50:09,667 --> 01:50:12,001
And I was trying
to hide it from everybody.
1339
01:50:13,251 --> 01:50:17,126
Some people say you have to live
the blues to sing the blues.
1340
01:50:17,292 --> 01:50:19,001
During that period
of time in your life
1341
01:50:19,167 --> 01:50:21,792
where you were involved
with drugs and alcohol,
1342
01:50:22,292 --> 01:50:24,292
did you do that
to justify that point of view?
1343
01:50:24,459 --> 01:50:27,084
No, you know,
I was just a party animal.
1344
01:50:27,251 --> 01:50:28,459
A fun seeking boy.
1345
01:50:31,876 --> 01:50:34,001
And then I was in Milan, touring
1346
01:50:34,167 --> 01:50:36,751
and a promoter introduced me
to Lory Del Santo.
1347
01:50:39,209 --> 01:50:41,001
I was just smitten with her
1348
01:50:41,167 --> 01:50:44,167
and decided I'm going
to start my life from scratch
1349
01:50:44,334 --> 01:50:47,334
here in Italy without any idea
where it was going to go.
1350
01:50:49,834 --> 01:50:51,959
He was a complete asshole.
1351
01:50:52,126 --> 01:50:55,042
There was no relationship,
and I knew it wouldn't work.
1352
01:50:55,209 --> 01:50:58,209
And I felt so sad that
he and I split up
1353
01:50:58,376 --> 01:51:00,459
because of that ridiculous idea.
1354
01:51:00,626 --> 01:51:04,167
But he was a sick person
and he obviously believed it.
1355
01:51:05,626 --> 01:51:07,084
We tried to make a go of it.
1356
01:51:07,251 --> 01:51:08,792
But she didn't know
who she was dealing with,
1357
01:51:08,959 --> 01:51:11,542
I was not grounded in any way.
1358
01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:15,292
I said, "Well, look, I don't
think this is working.
1359
01:51:15,459 --> 01:51:17,751
I want to go back to my wife."
1360
01:51:19,584 --> 01:51:21,959
And she told me, "Well, that's
not really good news,
1361
01:51:22,126 --> 01:51:23,417
because I'm pregnant."
1362
01:51:45,001 --> 01:51:47,542
Conor was the first thing
that happened to me
1363
01:51:47,709 --> 01:51:49,209
in my entire life
1364
01:51:49,876 --> 01:51:51,751
that really got to my core
1365
01:51:51,917 --> 01:51:54,834
and told me, time to grow up.
1366
01:52:01,709 --> 01:52:02,542
Strong man.
1367
01:52:03,376 --> 01:52:06,167
I could not fuck around
any longer.
1368
01:52:07,209 --> 01:52:09,084
I could not damage this.
1369
01:52:30,751 --> 01:52:33,542
Recently you had a child,
what was that like?
1370
01:52:34,042 --> 01:52:36,001
Well that came about
quite out of the blue.
1371
01:52:36,167 --> 01:52:38,834
I met this young lady
and bang it happened.
1372
01:52:39,001 --> 01:52:41,167
It was like the baby
was looking for parents too.
1373
01:52:42,126 --> 01:52:43,959
You know, to give it life.
1374
01:52:44,959 --> 01:52:47,001
And he's great, it's wonderful.
1375
01:52:47,959 --> 01:52:49,376
You got a goal for the future?
1376
01:52:49,542 --> 01:52:53,334
Yes, just you know,
grow up happily with my son.
1377
01:53:12,334 --> 01:53:14,792
I got to the place where
I couldn't live without a drink
1378
01:53:14,959 --> 01:53:16,334
and I couldn't live with it.
1379
01:53:17,542 --> 01:53:19,501
When I tried to stop on my own,
1380
01:53:19,667 --> 01:53:23,042
my withdrawals were so hard
that I had a grand mal seizure.
1381
01:53:26,042 --> 01:53:28,376
I was on my own
in the house one day.
1382
01:53:29,542 --> 01:53:31,959
And I got down on my knees
and prayed.
1383
01:53:33,501 --> 01:53:35,501
Was a really clumsy experience
1384
01:53:35,667 --> 01:53:38,417
but it was born out of real
desperation.
1385
01:53:39,792 --> 01:53:42,334
And I said, "Just
let me have some peace."
1386
01:54:01,251 --> 01:54:03,667
What effect has fatherhood
had on you?
1387
01:54:03,834 --> 01:54:05,959
A very stabilizing
effect because you suddenly
1388
01:54:06,126 --> 01:54:07,667
have to stop being so selfish,
1389
01:54:07,834 --> 01:54:10,292
you have to think more about
the life of someone else.
1390
01:54:10,709 --> 01:54:12,626
It is like a blood thing.
1391
01:54:12,792 --> 01:54:15,459
It's a tie for the rest
of your life.
1392
01:54:15,626 --> 01:54:17,334
And I love him dearly
1393
01:54:17,501 --> 01:54:20,792
and really he's made
a massive change in me.
1394
01:54:41,751 --> 01:54:45,001
Lory and Conor
were staying in New York
1395
01:54:45,167 --> 01:54:48,042
in this place called the
Galleria on 57th street.
1396
01:54:48,542 --> 01:54:50,459
And I was in New York as well.
1397
01:54:51,792 --> 01:54:54,917
So I took Conor to see
the circus on Long Island.
1398
01:55:01,584 --> 01:55:03,084
We had a great time.
1399
01:55:07,501 --> 01:55:09,542
The following day, I was going
to take Conor for lunch
1400
01:55:09,709 --> 01:55:11,042
maybe on my own.
1401
01:55:11,542 --> 01:55:13,001
It was about eleven
in the morning.
1402
01:55:13,167 --> 01:55:15,917
I was getting ready to go
up to 57th Street.
1403
01:55:17,542 --> 01:55:19,792
Then I got a phone call
from Lory,
1404
01:55:21,126 --> 01:55:22,876
just kind of screaming.
1405
01:55:24,626 --> 01:55:26,084
She said, "He's dead."
1406
01:55:27,126 --> 01:55:28,792
I thought, "What's she
talking about?"
1407
01:55:29,626 --> 01:55:31,251
She said, "He fell out
the window."
1408
01:55:35,126 --> 01:55:37,376
There couldn't have been
a bigger nightmare.
1409
01:55:37,542 --> 01:55:40,459
Before anyone could stop him,
four-year-old Conor Clapton
1410
01:55:40,626 --> 01:55:42,626
had plunged to his death
from the 53rd floor
1411
01:55:42,792 --> 01:55:44,417
of the Galleria building.
1412
01:55:44,584 --> 01:55:47,001
He made it past his mother
and three other adults
1413
01:55:47,167 --> 01:55:48,292
who were in the apartment
1414
01:55:48,459 --> 01:55:51,251
to a window that had just
been cleaned and left open.
1415
01:55:51,626 --> 01:55:53,417
There was nothing
to break his fall
1416
01:55:53,584 --> 01:55:55,667
except the roof
of an adjoining building.
1417
01:55:55,834 --> 01:55:57,417
It's just a tragic accident,
1418
01:55:57,584 --> 01:56:01,376
that the child apparently
wandered into the bedroom,
1419
01:56:02,042 --> 01:56:03,417
wandered close to the window
1420
01:56:03,584 --> 01:56:09,042
and just by the fact that
the window ledge was low,
1421
01:56:09,209 --> 01:56:11,792
it appears that he just
tragically fell out.
1422
01:56:23,959 --> 01:56:27,042
I felt like I stepped
back out of myself.
1423
01:56:28,001 --> 01:56:30,876
I couldn't grasp it,
I could not grasp it.
1424
01:56:33,667 --> 01:56:37,667
And I went with the body
down to the nearest hospital.
1425
01:56:38,917 --> 01:56:40,417
I went to see him
1426
01:56:41,417 --> 01:56:43,042
and I said goodbye to him.
1427
01:56:45,751 --> 01:56:47,292
And I did lose faith.
1428
01:57:13,126 --> 01:57:14,542
It was horrific.
1429
01:57:15,542 --> 01:57:17,751
I just couldn't think
about that little boy.
1430
01:57:18,834 --> 01:57:19,959
This little soul.
1431
01:57:28,751 --> 01:57:30,042
Eric was a fighter.
1432
01:57:30,501 --> 01:57:32,126
But I know that
1433
01:57:32,834 --> 01:57:35,667
as well as myself,
a lot of his friends
1434
01:57:35,834 --> 01:57:38,792
were very concerned
about him, his sobriety.
1435
01:57:40,292 --> 01:57:41,709
He was on his own.
1436
01:57:55,709 --> 01:57:58,376
Italians had gone home
and Hurtwood was quiet
1437
01:57:58,542 --> 01:57:59,751
and it was just me there.
1438
01:58:00,792 --> 01:58:02,001
With my thoughts.
1439
01:58:04,126 --> 01:58:06,709
I started opening all my
letters of condolence.
1440
01:58:07,667 --> 01:58:09,667
Thousands and thousands of them.
1441
01:58:11,709 --> 01:58:14,584
I opened one and it was
from Conor.
1442
01:58:17,501 --> 01:58:20,667
And it had been posted
weeks before from Milan.
1443
01:58:24,584 --> 01:58:27,834
And I realized if I can go
through this and stay sober
1444
01:58:28,001 --> 01:58:29,251
then anyone can.
1445
01:58:31,001 --> 01:58:32,959
And I suddenly became
aware of the fact
1446
01:58:33,126 --> 01:58:35,959
that there was a way to turn
this dreadful tragedy
1447
01:58:36,126 --> 01:58:38,126
into something positive.
1448
01:58:38,792 --> 01:58:42,042
That I would consider living
my life from this point on
1449
01:58:42,917 --> 01:58:44,667
to honor the memory of my son.
1450
01:58:52,167 --> 01:58:55,376
I got hold of the little Spanish
guitar that I had lying around.
1451
01:58:55,542 --> 01:58:57,459
And I had it with me
the whole time.
1452
01:58:57,626 --> 01:58:59,126
From the minute I woke up.
1453
01:59:00,584 --> 01:59:04,167
And for the rest of that year,
I just played and played
1454
01:59:05,042 --> 01:59:07,292
to stop from facing
this situation.
1455
02:01:05,876 --> 02:01:07,292
Music saved me.
1456
02:01:09,751 --> 02:01:12,001
Just as it had when
I was a boy of nine.
1457
02:01:14,001 --> 02:01:15,501
It took the pain away.
1458
02:01:18,584 --> 02:01:21,167
And I wrote these songs
for myself
1459
02:01:21,834 --> 02:01:24,126
because I was feeling
terrible inside.
1460
02:01:46,459 --> 02:01:50,292
And the Grammy goes to
Tears in Heaven,
1461
02:01:50,459 --> 02:01:51,667
Eric Clapton.
1462
02:01:54,209 --> 02:01:56,126
And the song of the year is,
1463
02:01:56,626 --> 02:01:59,584
Eric Clapton and
Will Jennings, songwriters
1464
02:01:59,751 --> 02:02:01,126
for Tears in Heaven.
1465
02:02:01,292 --> 02:02:03,334
And the album of the year is...
1466
02:02:05,459 --> 02:02:07,334
Unplugged, Eric Clapton.
1467
02:02:10,251 --> 02:02:13,084
As much as I'm proud of
what I've achieved musically,
1468
02:02:13,667 --> 02:02:15,167
it's all dust really.
1469
02:02:15,667 --> 02:02:18,876
At some point, there will
be people who have no idea
1470
02:02:19,042 --> 02:02:20,501
what I did and who I am.
1471
02:02:20,667 --> 02:02:22,667
And I'm quite comfortable
about that.
1472
02:02:25,834 --> 02:02:26,792
Thank you.
1473
02:02:30,001 --> 02:02:32,834
Finally, me and my daughter,
Ruth
1474
02:02:33,292 --> 02:02:35,542
were able to begin
our own relationship,
1475
02:02:36,459 --> 02:02:37,751
which was wonderful.
1476
02:02:38,667 --> 02:02:40,417
And it took me to a place
1477
02:02:40,584 --> 02:02:43,209
where I was able to have
a great relationship with Ruth,
1478
02:02:43,417 --> 02:02:45,417
and also become available
1479
02:02:46,626 --> 02:02:48,667
to have a relationship
with another human being.
1480
02:02:48,834 --> 02:02:51,542
Now see that's, that was the
first time I felt like that
1481
02:02:51,709 --> 02:02:53,209
in my entire life.
1482
02:02:58,376 --> 02:03:00,126
I have a brochure I'm going to
show you quickly, called
1483
02:03:00,334 --> 02:03:03,376
Crossroads center at Antigua.
1484
02:03:03,542 --> 02:03:06,126
This is an Eric Clapton project,
what is it?
1485
02:03:06,292 --> 02:03:08,209
For the last three years,
I've been trying to start
1486
02:03:08,376 --> 02:03:10,292
a treatment center in Antigua.
1487
02:03:10,459 --> 02:03:11,542
For addiction?
1488
02:03:11,709 --> 02:03:13,459
For addiction to drugs
and alcohol, yeah.
1489
02:03:13,626 --> 02:03:16,417
So are you doing it for people
who live on the island?
1490
02:03:16,584 --> 02:03:19,251
I'm primarily doing it
for people that have no money
1491
02:03:19,417 --> 02:03:20,751
that need treatment.
1492
02:03:21,917 --> 02:03:25,876
There's 100 guitars here,
some of them were with me
1493
02:03:26,751 --> 02:03:28,792
through some really
extreme times.
1494
02:03:29,251 --> 02:03:31,626
But I want them to raise a lot
of money for the foundation
1495
02:03:31,792 --> 02:03:34,501
and to carry the message
of the center.
1496
02:03:34,667 --> 02:03:36,667
Five hundred thousand out there.
1497
02:03:36,834 --> 02:03:40,417
Six hundred thousand
I'm offered. 700,000, 800,000.
1498
02:03:40,584 --> 02:03:43,001
Eight hundred and fifty
thousand dollars.
1499
02:03:43,167 --> 02:03:44,376
And sold.
1500
02:03:46,542 --> 02:03:48,584
Music has given me a great life.
1501
02:03:48,751 --> 02:03:51,626
That's never betrayed me,
it's never gonna let me down.
1502
02:03:52,459 --> 02:03:55,042
But if it doesn't have
the same value as knowing
1503
02:03:55,209 --> 02:03:56,626
that there are people out there
1504
02:03:56,792 --> 02:04:00,667
that I've helped get sober
through the treatment center.
1505
02:04:08,417 --> 02:04:11,042
Let's bring on Hubert Sumlin.
1506
02:04:13,292 --> 02:04:14,584
Please welcome Buddy Guy.
1507
02:04:17,834 --> 02:04:20,209
Put your hands together
for the king of the blues.
1508
02:04:20,376 --> 02:04:21,542
B. B. King.
1509
02:04:25,417 --> 02:04:27,626
If he hadn't heard
and liked the blues.
1510
02:04:28,459 --> 02:04:32,126
He could just about be retiring
from the building trade now.
1511
02:04:32,709 --> 02:04:35,751
Having spent his life,
laying tiles like his father.
1512
02:04:39,001 --> 02:04:42,209
If you guide yourself
into the worst aspects of life
1513
02:04:42,376 --> 02:04:43,542
which he undoubtedly did.
1514
02:04:43,709 --> 02:04:45,626
Nobody pushed him down
to the depth
1515
02:04:45,792 --> 02:04:48,126
that he felt he reached
at several points.
1516
02:04:48,626 --> 02:04:50,126
And nobody has got him out.
1517
02:04:54,626 --> 02:04:57,584
Now, I mean that is a very
powerful personality.
1518
02:04:59,126 --> 02:05:01,667
It doesn't necessarily
have to show itself
1519
02:05:02,376 --> 02:05:03,542
in company.
1520
02:05:04,376 --> 02:05:06,959
But it must be there
for him to have survived.
1521
02:05:09,834 --> 02:05:12,459
And then I met Melia
and fell in love.
1522
02:05:13,626 --> 02:05:15,584
She's everything I ever wanted.
1523
02:05:15,751 --> 02:05:17,084
She's my soul mate.
1524
02:05:17,501 --> 02:05:20,001
She's a beautiful woman,
she's a great friend.
1525
02:05:20,501 --> 02:05:22,459
And she's a fantastic mother.
1526
02:05:23,667 --> 02:05:25,542
What more could a man ever want?
1527
02:05:28,126 --> 02:05:30,709
Hello, this is Sophie, here.
1528
02:05:31,459 --> 02:05:34,626
Here she is.
And this is Daddy.
1529
02:05:37,292 --> 02:05:39,792
And this is Ella.
1530
02:05:41,167 --> 02:05:43,751
Here is Mommy.
1531
02:05:44,751 --> 02:05:46,209
And here is me.
1532
02:05:46,376 --> 02:05:47,376
Hi.
1533
02:05:55,876 --> 02:05:58,376
It was everything I did
and all the mistakes I made
1534
02:05:58,542 --> 02:06:00,667
and everything
that brought me here.
1535
02:06:00,834 --> 02:06:03,876
And it couldn't be
much better, really.
1536
02:06:06,834 --> 02:06:09,501
I finally found the family
I always wanted.
1537
02:06:10,667 --> 02:06:11,959
And always needed.
1538
02:06:12,667 --> 02:06:15,584
And now here they are,
and I'm one of them.
1539
02:06:16,334 --> 02:06:18,167
My life is completely full.
1540
02:06:20,042 --> 02:06:22,209
And I would like to say a toast
1541
02:06:22,959 --> 02:06:24,126
to the Boss.
1542
02:06:27,084 --> 02:06:29,084
Give me a little
talking music, will you?
1543
02:06:29,251 --> 02:06:30,417
Robert, please.
1544
02:06:31,959 --> 02:06:33,501
Keep it down, keep it down.
1545
02:06:33,667 --> 02:06:35,542
Ladies and gentlemen, for you,
1546
02:06:35,709 --> 02:06:39,751
I know that you know
that Eric is a great artist.
1547
02:06:40,542 --> 02:06:44,292
He flew all the way to
California to make my first CD.
1548
02:06:45,292 --> 02:06:48,209
Not only did he do that,
he's done so many things
1549
02:06:48,376 --> 02:06:50,959
for a lot of us,
including this guy.
1550
02:06:51,709 --> 02:06:53,209
So I'd like you to know...
1551
02:06:55,334 --> 02:06:58,626
I'm gonna shut up in a minute,
but I'd like you to know
1552
02:06:58,792 --> 02:07:00,626
that I've been around the world,
1553
02:07:00,792 --> 02:07:02,959
I've played 90 different
countries around the world,
1554
02:07:03,126 --> 02:07:05,626
and I've met many people,
kings and queens.
1555
02:07:06,209 --> 02:07:10,834
But I've never met a better
man, a more gracious man
1556
02:07:11,792 --> 02:07:15,251
than my friend, I like to call
him my friend, Eric Clapton.
1557
02:07:17,751 --> 02:07:20,042
So I say to all of you...
1558
02:07:24,501 --> 02:07:26,334
May I live forever...
1559
02:07:32,792 --> 02:07:35,834
But may you live
forever and a day.
1560
02:07:38,209 --> 02:07:41,167
'Cause I'd hate to be here
when you pass away.
1561
02:07:42,542 --> 02:07:44,584
And when they lay me out
to rest...
1562
02:07:46,084 --> 02:07:47,959
As I mentioned, I'm 81 now.
1563
02:07:48,584 --> 02:07:50,126
When they lay me out to rest,
1564
02:07:50,292 --> 02:07:53,417
may the last voices I hear
be yours.
1565
02:07:54,834 --> 02:07:57,459
Saying while we was alive
we were friends.
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