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Wait a minute, son.
Don't be afraid.
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I won't hurt you. Who are you?
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I'm beru.
Are you related to beru tremaine,
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the missionary who disappeared
in the jungle several years ago?
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He was my father,
but he's dead now.
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Have you been living
in the jungle all this time?
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Since I left joba.
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Joba? You mean the hidden city
beyond the mountains of despair?
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What do you know
about that place?
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I hear the natives mention it
once in a while,
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but I always thought
it was a legendary city.
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Yeah. They say
it's taboo or something.
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When I was a kid,
I did want to be a wild animal trainer.
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I wanted to be a Clyde beatty.
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A lot of kids want to be
firemen, cowboys, whatever,
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but I wanted
to be a wild animal trainer.
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I was really interested in it.
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There was a catholic priest friend
of ours that was a circus fan.
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My mother told father berney...
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To have a talk with me
to try to change my mind.
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Instead, he encouraged me, so...
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He told her the world
had to have lion trainers too.
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Ta-ta. Watch it. Hurry up. Hold it.
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Hurry up. Hup, hup.
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Ta-ta! Caesar!
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No, no! Come around here.
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Caesar! Ta-ta. Ta-ta.
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Come around. Hey, hey!
One, two, three!
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I came there
after the '38 hurricane...
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To help clean up the place.
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It was in December,
but it was hot...
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And Mary came down
with lemonade.
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That's how I met her,
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and then three years later
I married her.
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Mary's father was ailing
at the time.
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They were looking for someone
that could take over.
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So I took over.
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Whatever I thought
had to be done, had to be done.
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When I was about 14 or 15,
I was in an insect club.
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It was a group of children
who were interested in entomology...
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And were interested
in societies:
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How ants and bees and wasps
and termites function.
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We're told certain things
could or couldn't be:
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That mammals
would never be like insects,
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that our societies and theirs
were radically different.
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Over 20 years went by, and a friend
called me in the middle of the night.
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And he said to me,
"ray, they found them."
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I knew exactly what he was talking
about, and I said, "where?"
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He said, "in Africa.
It's a thing called the naked mole-rat",
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and they have a society
just like termites."
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He explained to me
that a mammal had been found...
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That lived underground
in these complexes.
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The next day I ran off to a magazine
editor and told them the story and said,
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"I have to take pictures of these animals.
You have to send me to Africa."
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I like to build stuff.
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I sometimes ask myself,
"why do I do this?"
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I trace it back
to my childhood days.
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I used to try and build
electronic things...
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In a little tin shed
in the backyard.
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I was always trying
to build computers.
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There was always a task
I wanted to do,
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whether it was add two numbers
or play tic-tac-toe or whatever.
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But I just had this tremendous feeling of
satisfaction when I switched the things on.
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The lights flashed,
and the machine came to life.
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When I was at m.I.T. Building robots,
there was an even more dramatic moment.
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One night,
the physical robot actually moved.
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It was what I was working on, for days,
but it completely surprised me. It moved.
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It had that
magical sort of thing.
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It worked. And the best part was
that it completely surprised me.
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I'd forgotten that this physical thing was what
I was trying to get to work, then it happened.
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I saw Clyde beatty when I was a
very, very small child.
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He was a motion picture
personality...
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As well as a circus performer,
in those days.
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We didn't have television,
but we did go to the movies...
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Every Saturday morning.
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The serials.
Thirteen exciting episodes.
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And, even by the standards then,
it was pretty corny,
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but kids loved it.
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Guards! Guards!
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For the young boys in those days,
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he was an idol.
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There was a parallel. Clyde and I were
from the same part of the country,
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and I identified with him
for that purpose too.
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I wanted to be a Clyde beatty.
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And then I met him
when I was in the air force.
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I spent a couple days with him.
Then when I got into the business,
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I contacted him,
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and we became
very close friends.
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I like to look at what everyone is doing,
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find some common thing
that they are all assuming implicitly,
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but they don't even realize
they're assuming,
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and then negate that thing.
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Around that time, I saw a videotape of insects
walking, and they weren't even stable.
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They were falling down all the time. There
I had the thing I was going to negate.
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Everyone was
implicitly assuming...
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That a walking machine
had to have stability, so I negated that.
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I said, "let's have
a walking machine..."
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That doesn't even worry about
stability, that's able to fall down."
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So we started by building
a six-legged robot: Genghis.
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When we started it, we weren't thinking about
walking as well as it actually walked.
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We were thinking
about scrambling over terrain.
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And it turned out to look
an awful lot like an insect.
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That was pretty accidental,
I think.
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It's a mammal that comes from
an area that's extremely stable.
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The temperatures are constant;
Underground, especially.
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When you don't need to stay warm the whole
time, number one, you lose your hair.
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So they lost their hair.
Not very advantageous to be furry...
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If you don't need
to get rid of any heat.
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And then they lost
the ability to shiver.
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When you're cold, you start shivering.
If you're never cold, you lose that.
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Then they lost the ability
to sweat because they were never hot.
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Although it's not exactly
cold-blooded like a snake is cold-blooded,
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since they can't
regulate their temperature,
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we can almost call them
a fully cold-blooded mammal.
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One of the critical things
about genghis was:
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You switched it on,
and it walked.
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The walking isn't programmed in.
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"I think, therefore I walk,
and how I walk is I do this, I do that."
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Instead it's all these little
feedback loops,
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and when you put them
all together, the robot walks.
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A well-respected professor
from Germany said,
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"but how do you tell
the robot what to do?"
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"I don't
tell the robot what to do.
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I switch it on, and it does
what is in its nature."
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Sometimes I feel
a little like Yoda.
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I have to say, sort of,
"just feel the force.
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Don't try and control the robot, but feel
how the world is gonna control the robot."
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To me, it's this incredible mammal...
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That breaks the rules.
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A mammal that...
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Has a queen, king,
soldiers, workers,
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all playing roles
that they will play out...
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For, as far as we know,
their life.
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The thing about mole-rats
is that they're so new.
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Even within the knowledge that's
known, there's still worlds to explore.
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How long do they live?
At what point can they no longer change?
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For instance, you can take a worker
mole-rat that's five years old,
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put it in a situation
where there's no queen,
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and that worker
might turn into a queen.
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It would be like a 45-year-old,
five-foot tall person...
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Being put in a situation where you
needed somebody who was six foot five...
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And growing to be six foot five.
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That's an incredible thing
for a mammal to do.
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This is all done from memory.
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You know what an animal looks like,
so you just start making an animal.
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Like the bear, for instance.
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I just selected a plant that had branches
approximately where I wanted them,
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and then you begin
to cut away everything else.
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Keep them cut.
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The head is most always
the easiest part to do...
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Because all these things
want to do is grow straight up.
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Then of course the arms...
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You have to tie them down,
so that they'll stay down.
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We bring the branches
up and over from one leg to the other...
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And then crisscross them
from the front leg to the back leg.
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The only piece of metal
in the whole thing...
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Is under the neck
to hold the nose down.
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A lot of people that come there
say, "we've traveled worldwide..."
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And never seen anything
exactly like green animals."
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Discover magazine said,"we're gonna do a story on your mole-rats."
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Everybody had heard me
talking about them.
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"Would you like
to be the photographer?"
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And I said, "yes," joyfully.
So that's how it started.
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After I did that article, I was invited to
design an exhibit for the Philadelphia zoo.
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This was about
a year and a half later.
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So I had the opportunity again
to work with mole-rats.
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This time to present them to the
public in environmental chambers.
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I wanted
to create an environment...
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Not of glass tubes
and plastic tubes...
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Such as they keep them
in the laboratories for convenience sake.
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Because that's so foreign
from the visuals of where the animals live.
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I was looking for something that would
make you feel that you were there,
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and you were a guest.
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It's an old gag in old movies.
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A building where half the building is falling
apart, and a guy's still taking a shower.
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Somebody's still in front of the mirror
and the building is falling apart.
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You're getting to look
at all these intimate moments...
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Because a piece of the environment
has been removed so quickly...
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That you haven't had time
to be startled yet.
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The house was closed for 20 years.
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Miss brayton always had the idea that
she'd like to come to live there permanent.
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She never married.
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She said, "there was one man
that I wanted."
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It didn't work out,
so I just won't get married."
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From her bedroom, miss brayton
could look out over the garden.
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She'd call and she'd say, "George,
don't let anybody walk in the garden."
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I want to see the garden before
there's any footprints in the paths."
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She was in the garden every day.
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She'd come out, and she says,
"I want the yellow snapdragon,
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a pink snapdragon,
a red or a Daisy."
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Or she'd tell me
what colors she wanted.
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Then she says, "if there was any way
I could help you, I would help you."
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I said, "you could be a big help to
me if you picked your own flowers."
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When I first started in the business,
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I saw a film of my act.
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I was horrified because I saw several things I
was doing that could have gotten me killed.
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I learned by trial and error.
I made some very serious errors too,
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believe me. Hey!
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I spent three months in the hospital
in lubbock, Texas, for an error.
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The error was
I wore a wristwatch.
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I had a wristwatch with
a very good expansion band.
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Very good. It didn't break.
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I had a lion swing,
catch my expansion band,
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pull me into him.
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He got one claw in between
my elbow bones here.
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He had this hand in his mouth.
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Fortunately, he had a broken tusk or
I would be missing a finger today.
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Finally, the watch did break. The band
broke and the watch just flew out of sight.
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I went in the hospital
on the third of January,
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and I got out
the fifth of April.
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And I have never worn
a wristwatch since.
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Once you go through the door and close
the door, you're completely absorbed.
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I couldn't tell whether it was five
people in the audience or 5,000...
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Because you're completely
absorbed with what you're doing.
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When they come through the door,
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you've got about three seconds
to do what we call read them.
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Are they coming after you?
Are they going to their seats?
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It's not the same each time.
It's new every time you go in.
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You have to be alert constantly.
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Pongo! Bring it up here! Pongo!
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The weather can be 30 degrees,
and I come out soaking wet.
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It's not from running around,
although I do a lot of running.
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Get set. Jump!
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Pongo!
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It's physical tension.
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Mental stress.
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That's the bottom line.
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If you're not scared of them,
you're in big trouble.
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When we started to design the exhibits,
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I needed to do something that
would last for a period of time.
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If you're doing
an exhibit for a zoo,
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you can't expect them
to spend many, many thousands of dollars...
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And have the animals
eat their way out in a week.
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I was looking for something
that would be more permanent.
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I tried concrete,
and they chewed their way through concrete.
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And I tried plaster. Plaster was crepe
paper as far as they're concerned.
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They went right through plaster.
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Ten or twelve percent
of their musculature is in their jaws.
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So the amount of pressure
they have when they bite is amazing.
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Their teeth
are situated externally,
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so they get a huge
opening of the mouth,
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and then they come in
and scrape a surface.
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So with the concrete, I don't believe
they were taking out chunks of it.
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They were scraping down
until they hit...
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One little pellet of quartz in the
concrete, and they would pop that out.
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Then they'd take another.
They haven't got anything to do all day.
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You got them in a cage.
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You can design a burrow and think
the mole-rat's gonna do great in it,
249
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and have the animal perform
in a totally different way.
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So it was very important
for me to experiment with tunnel sizes,
251
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chamber sizes,
chamber configurations.
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I thought there would be
one chamber that would be a nest chamber,
253
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but it was the last
chamber on the run.
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In other words,
you would have a tunnel...
255
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And then a chamber
and then another tunnel...
256
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And another chamber
and another tunnel.
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I thought maybe they'll eat here
and they'll sleep here.
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I had it all set up like
a Dollhouse in my own head.
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I'm telling myself stories while I'm designing
things, about how things are gonna function.
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I thought I had a really beautiful nest
chamber at the end of this pattern.
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We found out that mole-rats...
The last chamber is used as the bathroom.
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We had to incorporate
that new knowledge...
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Into the design of the environments that
we built in the back of the exhibit.
264
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Now we could decide
where the toilet was gonna be.
265
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So did you want the public to see it?
Did you want it right up front?
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You could do that. Did you want it
hidden away, difficult to look at?
267
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We could do that. Did you want it
out of the exhibit? We could do that.
268
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If you hold a mole-rat,
it's best to hold it with your hand flat...
269
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And have some control
over the animal.
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Always be aware
of where the head is.
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If they go down and they smell,
that's one thing.
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But if they go down and push,
you want to lift the animal off.
273
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The next thing after a push
would probably be a nibble...
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To find out if they can
get through there.
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And if it starts to dig into the palm
of your hand, it will rip it right open.
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All along, we've been inspired
by an evolutionary analogy:
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That inside the human brain
is a reptile brain,
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and inside the reptile brain
is a fish brain.
279
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Evolution just didn't pop out
with a person fully formed.
280
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We've had that same idea
in building our robots.
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Let it do simple stuff,
like move about.
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Then add some more
complexity to it,
283
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so it would move about
without hitting things.
284
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Then add some more
complexity to it,
285
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so it could go
and find a soda can.
286
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The idea is not to go back
and change the earlier pieces.
287
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Have the earlier pieces
run in parallel.
288
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To an observer, it appears
as though the robot...
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Has intentions and has goals...
290
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And is following people
and chasing prey,
291
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but it's just the interaction...
292
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Of lots and lots
of much simpler processes.
293
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That certainly...
294
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Looks good enough...
295
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To explain insect type behavior.
296
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Now the more radical hypothesis:
297
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Maybe that's all there is.
298
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Maybe a lot of what humans are
doing could be explained this way.
299
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After all, humans have evolved
from simpler systems over time.
300
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When I think about it,
I can almost see myself...
301
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As being made up of thousands
and thousands of little agents...
302
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Doing stuff
almost independently.
303
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But at the same time,
I fall back into believing...
304
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The things about humans that
we all believe about humans...
305
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And living life that way.
306
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Otherwise, I think,
if you analyze it too much,
307
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life becomes almost meaningless.
308
00:28:22,767 --> 00:28:24,769
Miss brayton says, "George, it's beautiful",
309
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"but don't leave that man
up there all by himself.
310
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He has to have a lady.
So can you make a lady?"
311
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I said, "yeah, I guess so."
312
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She says, "all right,
make the frame, make the body",
313
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but don't bother to dress it."
314
00:28:38,783 --> 00:28:42,786
Well, she goes off
to New York, came back...
315
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With a dress and a hat.
316
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My wife saw the hat,
and the tag was hanging there.
317
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She says, "forty-four dollars
for the hat for the scarecrow."
318
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I says, "well, she figured
it was worth the $44."
319
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The chair has four legs.
An animal has a one-track mind.
320
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For instance, the animal is coming after
you with the idea of tearing your head off.
321
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You put the chair up,
and, all of a sudden,
322
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he has four points of interest.
323
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He loses his original
train of thought...
324
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Because this agitates him.
325
00:29:23,328 --> 00:29:26,830
He can't comprehend those
four points of interest,
326
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so he attacks the chair,
he takes his wrath out on the chair.
327
00:29:31,336 --> 00:29:36,340
His mind now has been completely
distracted from his original thought:
328
00:29:36,341 --> 00:29:39,843
"Eat the man
in the white pants."
329
00:29:39,844 --> 00:29:43,847
Come in, Mitch! Caesar!
330
00:29:43,848 --> 00:29:45,849
Pongo! Mitch!
331
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Hold it!
332
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It's basically
animal psychology.
333
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You try to keep the animal afraid of
you, in that he does not understand you.
334
00:29:58,363 --> 00:30:00,365
He does not understand
that you're weaker than him.
335
00:30:00,865 --> 00:30:04,368
If you get injured
during a wild animal act,
336
00:30:04,369 --> 00:30:07,872
you have to go ahead
and finish the act.
337
00:30:10,375 --> 00:30:12,376
If you stop right then
and leave the cage,
338
00:30:12,377 --> 00:30:15,379
the animal is liable
to comprehend that he hurt you,
339
00:30:15,380 --> 00:30:17,382
and then that's it
with that animal.
340
00:30:17,882 --> 00:30:22,386
Because, physically, there's no way to
really stop them, except bluff them.
341
00:30:22,387 --> 00:30:24,388
Hey. Hey!
342
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:30,394
Hey. You can't really stop even
one if he knows his real strength.
343
00:30:30,395 --> 00:30:33,897
Ta-ta, ta-ta. One more time.
Watch it. Hurry. Hup.
344
00:30:33,898 --> 00:30:38,402
I've had them hit me and knock me clear
across the ring like a ping-pong ball.
345
00:30:38,403 --> 00:30:41,905
Fortunately, I stood up,
and I just go ahead with my act...
346
00:30:41,906 --> 00:30:44,908
Like nothing happened.
347
00:30:44,909 --> 00:30:48,412
I had a lion, one time,
grab me and bite me through the calf,
348
00:30:48,413 --> 00:30:50,415
and my boot
was filling up with blood.
349
00:30:50,915 --> 00:30:54,418
But I went ahead and finished
the act and then left the cage.
350
00:30:54,919 --> 00:30:59,423
My teeth rattled out,
but you just try to ignore that.
351
00:30:59,424 --> 00:31:03,928
Never let that bluff down.
352
00:31:10,935 --> 00:31:14,938
Evolution spent a long time,
353
00:31:14,939 --> 00:31:17,441
billions of years,
getting to the point...
354
00:31:17,442 --> 00:31:20,445
Of little creatures
which could chase each other around,
355
00:31:20,945 --> 00:31:24,948
have mobility and interact with
the world in a meaningful way,
356
00:31:24,949 --> 00:31:28,953
apart from being an amoeba
that just sits there and doesn't do much.
357
00:31:30,955 --> 00:31:34,959
Once that stuff was there,
all this other stuff evolved very quickly.
358
00:31:36,461 --> 00:31:40,965
Higher-level intelligence,
whatever that is, is pretty easy...
359
00:31:41,466 --> 00:31:45,969
Once you have the ability
to move around, hunt, chase.
360
00:31:45,970 --> 00:31:47,972
They're the tough parts.
361
00:31:54,979 --> 00:31:58,982
I don't believe it's possible to
have a disembodied intelligence...
362
00:31:58,983 --> 00:32:02,486
Without a physical
connection to reality.
363
00:32:05,990 --> 00:32:07,991
Everything we think,
364
00:32:07,992 --> 00:32:11,495
everything in our thought process is
built around being in touch with reality.
365
00:32:12,497 --> 00:32:14,999
Even the word "touch."
366
00:32:18,002 --> 00:32:23,007
A cockroach has 30,000 hairs,
each of which is a sensor.
367
00:32:23,508 --> 00:32:29,012
The most complex robot we've built has
150 sensors, and it just about killed us.
368
00:32:29,013 --> 00:32:33,517
We can't expect to do as well
as animals do in the world...
369
00:32:34,018 --> 00:32:36,020
Until we get past
that sensing barrier.
370
00:33:06,050 --> 00:33:09,052
My favorite lion was John-John.
371
00:33:09,053 --> 00:33:14,058
He was an extraordinarily big lion.
He weighed 714 pounds.
372
00:33:14,559 --> 00:33:16,060
Fortunately,
he was good-natured.
373
00:33:16,561 --> 00:33:19,563
Way up high. John-John, hey.
374
00:33:19,564 --> 00:33:21,565
Take it up. Easy!
375
00:33:21,566 --> 00:33:24,068
He wasn't the type of animal
that you could pet,
376
00:33:24,569 --> 00:33:27,070
but he was the type of animal
that would put up with you.
377
00:33:27,071 --> 00:33:29,072
Hurry up.
Hup, hup, hup! John, -John, way up.
378
00:33:29,073 --> 00:33:31,575
John-John! Hey! Take it up high.
379
00:33:31,576 --> 00:33:36,581
Hold it high.
You better watch it. Tut-tut.
380
00:33:38,082 --> 00:33:40,584
Ah-ah. Hold it.
381
00:33:43,087 --> 00:33:46,089
You sit. Sit.
382
00:33:46,090 --> 00:33:50,594
His father was one
of Clyde beatty's lions,
383
00:33:50,595 --> 00:33:52,596
a big animal named pharaoh.
384
00:33:52,597 --> 00:33:57,602
That's good. He's a good boy.
Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.
385
00:34:11,115 --> 00:34:14,118
There's nothing like the hand shears.
386
00:34:14,619 --> 00:34:18,121
I've been told by several
people: "You're old-fashioned."
387
00:34:18,122 --> 00:34:21,625
You want to do everything by hand.
The shears are just as good."
388
00:34:22,126 --> 00:34:24,628
I says, "for me,
they're not just as good."
389
00:34:24,629 --> 00:34:29,133
This is the only way you can
do it, and do it right."
390
00:34:33,137 --> 00:34:36,139
The electric shears is all right
for straight work.
391
00:34:36,140 --> 00:34:40,143
You cannot use them for detail.
392
00:34:40,144 --> 00:34:44,147
The ears on the animal... they're all
carved out. They're not just a big blob.
393
00:34:44,148 --> 00:34:47,150
Every ear is carved to detail.
394
00:34:47,151 --> 00:34:49,653
With electric shears,
you can't do that.
395
00:34:50,655 --> 00:34:54,157
A little flip of your hand
or something,
396
00:34:54,158 --> 00:34:56,159
you can lose the ear or a horn.
397
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:01,165
Or you go a little too far in,
the guy lost his foot.
398
00:35:04,168 --> 00:35:08,171
During the hot weather,
when you have a lot of tender wood,
399
00:35:08,172 --> 00:35:11,175
it doesn't give you a clean cut.
400
00:35:11,676 --> 00:35:13,677
Then you get the one sunny day,
and they brown.
401
00:35:13,678 --> 00:35:15,680
Then your animal
has that brown look.
402
00:35:20,184 --> 00:35:23,186
Many people have said to me,
"this is something men do...
403
00:35:23,187 --> 00:35:25,689
"Because men can't
have babies themselves.
404
00:35:25,690 --> 00:35:28,693
This is a way of building
your own baby, if you like."
405
00:35:30,194 --> 00:35:32,195
But I don't actually
buy that argument.
406
00:35:32,196 --> 00:35:37,200
As it turns out,
in my lab there are more women than men.
407
00:35:37,201 --> 00:35:41,705
I think there's some deeper-seated
thing which crosses the sex boundaries:
408
00:35:41,706 --> 00:35:45,208
Of understanding life
by building something...
409
00:35:45,209 --> 00:35:47,711
That is lifelike.
410
00:35:56,721 --> 00:35:59,724
People just come and look.
You wonder what they're looking at.
411
00:36:00,224 --> 00:36:04,728
It's not just this miniature shar-pei
with big teeth running around in a burrow.
412
00:36:05,730 --> 00:36:08,732
They're looking to find
if there's a common ground.
413
00:36:08,733 --> 00:36:11,735
Look, they're doing this.
Does that mean that this is gonna happen?
414
00:36:11,736 --> 00:36:13,737
They're carrying a baby.
Watch how the mother does it.
415
00:36:13,738 --> 00:36:18,743
They're constantly trying to find
themselves in another social animal.
416
00:37:10,795 --> 00:37:13,296
These ideas
that we're developing...
417
00:37:13,297 --> 00:37:18,802
Are gonna let us have robots
everywhere in our world.
418
00:37:18,803 --> 00:37:23,306
Everything about us
will become intelligent at some level.
419
00:37:23,307 --> 00:37:28,312
A door will have some agent
imbedded in it, every door.
420
00:37:28,813 --> 00:37:30,814
Then when you walk up
to the door...
421
00:37:30,815 --> 00:37:33,818
With two bags full of groceries,
you'll say, "open," and it will open.
422
00:37:38,823 --> 00:37:42,827
These agents, which will be imbedded in all
these physical objects we have around us,
423
00:37:43,327 --> 00:37:45,829
will be able to start talking
to each other.
424
00:37:47,832 --> 00:37:51,334
Later versions can learn
about your habits,
425
00:37:51,335 --> 00:37:55,839
doors will open and close
to control the air flow.
426
00:37:57,842 --> 00:38:02,345
These much more intelligent systems
are gonna infiltrate our lives,
427
00:38:02,346 --> 00:38:04,848
and they'll just be there
operating in the background.
428
00:38:12,857 --> 00:38:14,858
For example,
429
00:38:14,859 --> 00:38:18,862
I get annoyed at all the fluff that
accumulates on my TV screen, the dust.
430
00:38:18,863 --> 00:38:22,365
What if you could buy 20 robots
for a dollar...
431
00:38:22,366 --> 00:38:24,868
In a little bottle?
432
00:38:25,369 --> 00:38:28,371
Empty this bottle of robots
onto the TV screen,
433
00:38:28,372 --> 00:38:31,875
and, while the TV's on, they absorb
electrons and charge themselves up.
434
00:38:31,876 --> 00:38:34,878
When you switch the TV off,
435
00:38:34,879 --> 00:38:36,881
they come out,
spread out over the screen.
436
00:38:37,381 --> 00:38:39,359
They'll each scrub a little
piece and then scurry off...
437
00:38:39,383 --> 00:38:41,384
To the corner of the screen
and sit there again.
438
00:38:41,385 --> 00:38:44,387
Sounds crazy
by today's standards,
439
00:38:44,388 --> 00:38:48,392
but that will be a cost-effective
way to keep a TV screen clean.
440
00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:57,651
The minute they put two colonies together,
441
00:38:58,019 --> 00:39:00,404
they didn't come together
and share a beer.
442
00:39:00,905 --> 00:39:02,906
They went right at it
and started fighting.
443
00:39:02,907 --> 00:39:06,910
So, obviously, there had to be
something that separated them:
444
00:39:06,911 --> 00:39:10,413
A language, an odor,
something that allowed them...
445
00:39:10,414 --> 00:39:13,417
To identify the alien
in their midst to attack them.
446
00:39:25,463 --> 00:39:28,965
They roll in their own feces.
447
00:39:28,966 --> 00:39:31,468
It's a way of making
everybody smell the same.
448
00:39:31,469 --> 00:39:35,972
So it could be that subtle differences
in the aroma that you carry around...
449
00:39:35,973 --> 00:39:39,977
Is enough to set you off
against an enemy.
450
00:39:54,492 --> 00:39:56,493
They don't urinate
on each other.
451
00:39:56,494 --> 00:39:58,495
They urinate
in the midden pile...
452
00:39:58,496 --> 00:40:00,497
Where all the feces is placed,
453
00:40:00,498 --> 00:40:03,501
and then individuals
go there and roll in it.
454
00:40:08,005 --> 00:40:10,006
You'll see them kicking
and rolling...
455
00:40:10,007 --> 00:40:14,010
And shoving around in it,
and then going back into the nest system.
456
00:40:14,011 --> 00:40:17,014
They very rarely just go to the
bathroom, turn around and leave.
457
00:40:20,518 --> 00:40:25,021
When the young are weaned,
they will literally beg for fecal matter...
458
00:40:25,022 --> 00:40:27,524
So they can eat it.
459
00:40:27,525 --> 00:40:30,026
It's different
than the hard pellets...
460
00:40:30,027 --> 00:40:35,031
That you see the adults depositing
when they're going to the bathroom.
461
00:40:35,032 --> 00:40:40,036
This stuff is much more
undigested material.
462
00:40:40,037 --> 00:40:42,539
"I'm gonna go to the bathroom,
463
00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:45,542
"but I'm only going to expel
partially digested food...
464
00:40:45,543 --> 00:40:48,545
"So that some of the whole
bacteria and protozoa...
465
00:40:48,546 --> 00:40:52,549
That's in the fecal material
can be passed on as food."
466
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:55,051
A lot more zen
bowel movement going on...
467
00:40:55,052 --> 00:40:59,056
Than what you would normally
imagine an animal having.
468
00:41:05,563 --> 00:41:09,065
The nest chamber is like
listening to birds in a forest.
469
00:41:09,066 --> 00:41:11,568
There's constant tweets
and whistles...
470
00:41:11,569 --> 00:41:15,072
And grunts
that are going on inside of the colony.
471
00:41:20,077 --> 00:41:22,579
So there's a language.
For sure, there's a language.
472
00:41:22,580 --> 00:41:25,582
And in tunnel systems,
473
00:41:25,583 --> 00:41:28,085
squeaks and grunts
work very well.
474
00:41:29,587 --> 00:41:34,090
They have their own midden chamber
which is constantly turned over...
475
00:41:34,091 --> 00:41:36,092
Like you would
any good midden pile.
476
00:41:36,093 --> 00:41:39,095
It's kept fresh.
477
00:41:39,096 --> 00:41:42,599
They also have an area
where they store food, so that the nuts...
478
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,603
And some of the tubers
that they're fed are put away.
479
00:41:52,109 --> 00:41:55,111
And they seem to dream
while they sleep.
480
00:41:55,112 --> 00:41:58,615
Parts of their body will twitch like
a cat's do or like the way we do.
481
00:41:58,616 --> 00:42:02,119
Maybe they're thinking about digging
or finding the ultimate tuber.
482
00:42:28,145 --> 00:42:31,147
The only consciousness we've
ever experienced is our own.
483
00:42:31,148 --> 00:42:34,150
I know I'm conscious, but
I don't know about anyone else.
484
00:42:34,151 --> 00:42:37,654
I sort of infer that they're
conscious in the same way I am,
485
00:42:37,655 --> 00:42:39,656
but I don't know that.
486
00:42:39,657 --> 00:42:42,659
What about a horse or a cow?
487
00:42:42,660 --> 00:42:45,663
Or a cat or a dog?
How conscious are they?
488
00:42:48,666 --> 00:42:51,669
What about a chimpanzee
or a gorilla?
489
00:42:54,171 --> 00:42:57,674
Some people argue
that consciousness arises through language,
490
00:42:57,675 --> 00:43:00,176
but I'm not quite sure
I believe that.
491
00:43:00,177 --> 00:43:03,179
It seems to me that language...
492
00:43:03,180 --> 00:43:06,683
Is a very late thing
that's come about accidentally.
493
00:43:11,188 --> 00:43:14,691
I sort of have
this joke theory...
494
00:43:14,692 --> 00:43:17,193
That consciousness
is put there by god...
495
00:43:17,194 --> 00:43:19,195
So that he has this
very quick interface...
496
00:43:19,196 --> 00:43:21,698
To find out
what we're thinking about.
497
00:43:21,699 --> 00:43:26,203
So he can just check on us very
quickly, one after the other.
498
00:43:32,209 --> 00:43:36,212
I had a lion one time that was
bothered by a peanut machine.
499
00:43:36,213 --> 00:43:39,716
It took us two or three days to figure
out why that animal was acting up.
500
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:45,221
If the peanut salesman didn't turn
the machine on, we were all right.
501
00:43:45,222 --> 00:43:47,223
But sometimes,
during the middle of the lion act,
502
00:43:47,224 --> 00:43:50,226
he'd run out of roasted peanuts,
so he'd start the roaster up.
503
00:43:50,227 --> 00:43:55,231
It was a drum that rolled
and roasted the peanuts,
504
00:43:55,232 --> 00:43:59,235
and this animal would go
completely out of his mind.
505
00:43:59,236 --> 00:44:02,739
Once we found out what
was causing this animal to act that way,
506
00:44:02,740 --> 00:44:07,244
we told the peanut salesman, "don't roast
peanuts during the wild animal act."
507
00:44:18,756 --> 00:44:23,760
I had a big male lion named Leo.
508
00:44:23,761 --> 00:44:27,263
One day, in Lincoln, Nebraska,
he's headed for the door...
509
00:44:27,264 --> 00:44:30,266
And instead of going out,
he went under the stand next to the door...
510
00:44:30,267 --> 00:44:32,269
And waited for me.
511
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:35,772
One of my assistants hollered,
512
00:44:35,773 --> 00:44:40,277
and I turned around just in time to catch
this animal with my chair and send him out.
513
00:44:42,279 --> 00:44:45,782
He came within a hair of getting
me, so I knew at the night show...
514
00:44:45,783 --> 00:44:49,786
He was going to try the same thing
because he had almost been successful.
515
00:44:49,787 --> 00:44:54,290
Sure enough, the night show, I started
sending him out, but I stood sideways..
516
00:44:54,291 --> 00:44:56,292
Where I could just see him
out of the corner of my eye.
517
00:44:56,293 --> 00:44:58,795
He acted like
he was headed for the door...
518
00:44:58,796 --> 00:45:01,297
Was starting to make a u-turn,
519
00:45:01,298 --> 00:45:04,300
and I went right after him.
520
00:45:04,301 --> 00:45:06,302
And he stopped...
521
00:45:06,303 --> 00:45:09,806
And looked... And immediately went
in the cage and never tried it again.
522
00:45:09,807 --> 00:45:14,311
He realized I knew what he was up to.
There was no use to try it again.
523
00:45:16,814 --> 00:45:20,316
They're all different.
They're like people.
524
00:45:20,317 --> 00:45:22,819
That's the problem
with a wild animal act.
525
00:45:42,339 --> 00:45:44,841
Ladies and gentlemen,
boys and girls,
526
00:45:44,842 --> 00:45:47,343
count together, backwards.
527
00:45:47,344 --> 00:45:51,347
Five... four... three...
528
00:45:51,348 --> 00:45:54,351
Two... one... fire!
529
00:46:50,407 --> 00:46:53,409
Come here.
Come here to daddy. Bring it here to daddy.
530
00:46:53,410 --> 00:46:56,913
Watch it now.
Bring it to papa. Bring it to papa.
531
00:46:56,914 --> 00:47:00,917
There are always a couple
scheming to do something.
532
00:47:00,918 --> 00:47:03,420
Good. Hurry up.
533
00:47:05,422 --> 00:47:09,926
I had no trouble
with this animal for two or three months,
534
00:47:09,927 --> 00:47:11,928
and all of a sudden he blew up.
535
00:47:11,929 --> 00:47:14,931
I was lucky to get out
of the cage in one piece.
536
00:47:14,932 --> 00:47:19,936
Finally, we got them back
in their traveling cages.
537
00:47:19,937 --> 00:47:23,439
Then the next show, he came out,
completely forgot it.
538
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,943
It never crossed his mind again.
539
00:47:44,461 --> 00:47:49,966
The whole concept of stability
is a concept of death.
540
00:47:49,967 --> 00:47:54,470
It's part of my problem
with the Bambi concept of natural history,
541
00:47:54,471 --> 00:47:59,976
where everything is
beautiful and cute and benign.
542
00:47:59,977 --> 00:48:02,980
That's not the world.
The world isn't like that at all.
543
00:48:06,483 --> 00:48:11,488
You're either prey,
you're an enemy or you're ignored.
544
00:48:13,991 --> 00:48:15,992
Think about all the islands.
Island wildlife was wiped out...
545
00:48:15,993 --> 00:48:20,496
Because people could walk up
to it with a stick and hit it on the head.
546
00:48:20,497 --> 00:48:25,001
It's much easier to kill something
that doesn't see you as an enemy.
547
00:48:25,002 --> 00:48:29,006
By the time they realized it,
they were extinct.
548
00:48:35,012 --> 00:48:39,016
In '54, half of the garden
was completely destroyed.
549
00:48:41,018 --> 00:48:46,022
The giraffe lost his head
at that time.
550
00:48:46,023 --> 00:48:48,524
Miss brayton came out.
551
00:48:48,525 --> 00:48:51,027
She says, "oh, my darling
giraffe lost his head."
552
00:48:51,028 --> 00:48:54,031
I won't live long enough
to see a head on that animal."
553
00:48:56,533 --> 00:48:59,535
I said, "it's gonna take
three to four years",
554
00:48:59,536 --> 00:49:02,038
"depending on how much
growth we can get.
555
00:49:02,039 --> 00:49:04,041
I'll have a head
back on it again."
556
00:49:08,545 --> 00:49:12,048
She says, "I won't see a head on that because
I'm only going to live one more year."
557
00:49:12,049 --> 00:49:15,051
She was in her sixties
at the time,
558
00:49:15,052 --> 00:49:17,054
and she lived to be 94.
559
00:49:28,565 --> 00:49:32,068
It's just cut and wait,
cut and wait.
560
00:50:05,002 --> 00:50:09,105
I was watching a bunch of ants
carrying away...
561
00:50:09,106 --> 00:50:12,608
Little pieces
of breakfast cereal.
562
00:50:12,609 --> 00:50:15,611
They didn't have any idea
where they were going.
563
00:50:15,612 --> 00:50:17,613
Some ants were pulling it
the wrong way.
564
00:50:17,614 --> 00:50:21,117
Some ants were dropping it. It was dropping
on the ground. It was getting dragged.
565
00:50:21,118 --> 00:50:24,120
But, nevertheless,
that little piece of breakfast cereal...
566
00:50:24,121 --> 00:50:27,623
Started moving down the trail
in the right direction.
567
00:50:27,624 --> 00:50:32,128
Together, they performed
some global task,
568
00:50:32,129 --> 00:50:34,131
much bigger
than the sum of the parts.
569
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:48,644
Once we thought about how bees in
bee hives and ants in ant colonies...
570
00:50:48,645 --> 00:50:51,147
Build big structures
and do useful things,
571
00:50:51,148 --> 00:50:54,651
we realized we had to study
how to get robots to interact.
572
00:50:57,154 --> 00:51:02,658
So we got a set
of 20 identical robots called the r-1s,
573
00:51:02,659 --> 00:51:06,662
and we're trying to do
experiments in group behavior,
574
00:51:06,663 --> 00:51:10,166
where we don't have
explicit communication between the robots.
575
00:51:10,167 --> 00:51:12,668
They're not talking
to each other.
576
00:51:12,669 --> 00:51:14,670
They're not negotiating
with each other.
577
00:51:14,671 --> 00:51:17,673
Each of the robots is following
a simple set of rules...
578
00:51:17,674 --> 00:51:20,676
And is able to sense
the presence of other robots.
579
00:51:20,677 --> 00:51:24,180
So they know that thing
over there is another one of me,
580
00:51:24,181 --> 00:51:28,685
another thing
of the same species.
581
00:51:32,689 --> 00:51:35,691
We want to study two questions.
582
00:51:35,692 --> 00:51:38,194
Given a particular set of rules
for all these robots,
583
00:51:38,195 --> 00:51:40,696
what is the global behavior
that emerges...
584
00:51:40,697 --> 00:51:43,199
When you put them together?
585
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,202
And the other way around.
586
00:51:45,702 --> 00:51:48,705
If you want a group task done,
how can you synthesize a set of rules...
587
00:51:49,206 --> 00:51:51,208
That will cause
that task to happen?
588
00:51:58,715 --> 00:52:00,716
I can't imagine a scenario...
589
00:52:00,717 --> 00:52:03,219
In which a woman
would be giving birth to 20 kids at a time,
590
00:52:03,220 --> 00:52:07,223
and she'd have two husbands, and everybody
would be walking around like robots.
591
00:52:07,224 --> 00:52:10,227
I don't know.
The ultimate kibbutz?
592
00:52:12,229 --> 00:52:14,730
You want to have your kids
in your home...
593
00:52:14,731 --> 00:52:17,233
And your security and your pension
plan and all of this stuff,
594
00:52:17,234 --> 00:52:19,735
and to give all of that up
completely...
595
00:52:19,736 --> 00:52:24,240
Is contrary
to how our society is set up.
596
00:52:25,742 --> 00:52:27,743
We wouldn't tend to say,
597
00:52:27,744 --> 00:52:31,747
"okay, listen. In this village,
because we've run out of food,
598
00:52:31,748 --> 00:52:33,749
"we're only gonna be able
to raise one kid.
599
00:52:33,750 --> 00:52:36,252
We all know it,
so let's kill the other 57."
600
00:52:36,253 --> 00:52:38,755
Can you imagine a society
where that's going on? I can't.
601
00:52:42,259 --> 00:52:44,761
Culturally, what we tend to do
is let everybody die.
602
00:53:04,781 --> 00:53:09,785
We wrote a paper for the journal of
the British interplanetary society...
603
00:53:09,786 --> 00:53:15,291
On using very small robots
to explore planetary surfaces.
604
00:53:17,294 --> 00:53:20,296
The title we came up with was
"fast, cheap and out of control:
605
00:53:20,297 --> 00:53:22,799
A robot invasion
of the solar system."
606
00:53:24,301 --> 00:53:29,305
Instead of sending one
1,000-kilogram robot to explore Mars,
607
00:53:29,306 --> 00:53:32,308
our idea was to send a whole
bunch of one-kilogram robots,
608
00:53:32,309 --> 00:53:34,311
maybe a hundred of them.
609
00:53:36,313 --> 00:53:38,814
If you got
a hundred little robots,
610
00:53:38,815 --> 00:53:41,817
you'd be willing to try a higher
risk thing with one of the robots.
611
00:53:41,818 --> 00:53:43,819
If you fail,
you lose that rover.
612
00:53:43,820 --> 00:53:46,322
It's not the end of the mission.
613
00:53:49,326 --> 00:53:53,830
Maybe we're looking
for water sources or some other chemical.
614
00:53:54,331 --> 00:53:57,833
If it does find
what it's looking for, its life is over.
615
00:53:57,834 --> 00:54:01,838
It stops where it is, and it turns up
this little corner reflector to the sky.
616
00:54:04,341 --> 00:54:07,844
Wherever these robots are with their little
corner reflectors, you see a little sparkle.
617
00:54:10,347 --> 00:54:14,850
Now all the robots have accumulated where the
particular chemical we're looking for is,
618
00:54:14,851 --> 00:54:16,853
and you get this automatic map.
619
00:54:32,869 --> 00:54:36,872
The soldiers have routines
and songs that are used...
620
00:54:36,873 --> 00:54:39,876
When they're going out
to protect the nest.
621
00:54:46,883 --> 00:54:49,385
One individual being attacked
by a snake...
622
00:54:49,386 --> 00:54:52,389
Another individual is
walling that individual off.
623
00:54:54,891 --> 00:54:59,896
Although the snake got one,
it wouldn't be able to attack the nest.
624
00:55:05,902 --> 00:55:08,404
The expendability
of the individual.
625
00:55:10,407 --> 00:55:13,909
In ideal situations, they would all
go and try to save the individual.
626
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:15,911
Right? Go attack the snake.
627
00:55:15,912 --> 00:55:19,415
For all the workers,
it's safer to just say,
628
00:55:19,416 --> 00:55:22,919
"well, 'x' died,
and we'll seal him off."
629
00:55:24,421 --> 00:55:29,426
The queen will have another
22 babies or 14 babies or seven babies.
630
00:56:28,485 --> 00:56:32,988
You have to experience...
An injury.
631
00:56:32,989 --> 00:56:37,493
You have to experience chaos.
632
00:56:51,007 --> 00:56:53,008
My fear is misjudging an animal,
633
00:56:53,009 --> 00:56:58,013
being in the wrong place
at the wrong time,
634
00:56:58,014 --> 00:57:01,517
misjudging conditions
outside the cage.
635
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:08,024
An electrical storm... thunder doesn't
bother them, an electrical storm does.
636
00:57:10,527 --> 00:57:14,029
A lion or tiger can run 100 yards
in three and a half seconds,
637
00:57:14,030 --> 00:57:16,031
and I'm in a 40-foot cage.
638
00:57:16,032 --> 00:57:19,535
They can nail you
before you say, "oops."
639
00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:36,552
No matter what happens, you always
have a couple of them at your back.
640
00:57:36,553 --> 00:57:40,556
And it's always been...
I have the same nightmare:
641
00:57:40,557 --> 00:57:42,558
One standing on his hind legs...
642
00:57:42,559 --> 00:57:46,563
With his paws
around my neck, chewing on my head.
643
00:57:51,067 --> 00:57:54,570
We were playing
rockford, Illinois,
644
00:57:54,571 --> 00:57:57,072
and the power plant failed.
645
00:57:57,073 --> 00:58:02,578
I was trapped in the cage
with lions and tigers all around me.
646
00:58:02,579 --> 00:58:07,082
I backed up to the side of the cage, and I
took my stick and swung it back and forth.
647
00:58:07,083 --> 00:58:11,587
Every now and then, I hit something.
I knew they were coming after me.
648
00:58:30,607 --> 00:58:33,108
We had one heavy, wet snowstorm...
649
00:58:33,109 --> 00:58:36,612
That weighed the animals down
and got them out of shape.
650
00:58:38,114 --> 00:58:41,617
The camel's neck twisted down,
and it just hung there.
651
00:58:41,618 --> 00:58:44,621
Then the horse and rider
collapsed.
652
00:58:46,122 --> 00:58:48,624
It was a touchy situation.
653
00:58:48,625 --> 00:58:52,628
You're fighting the elements to try to get
them to grow where you want them to grow,
654
00:58:52,629 --> 00:58:56,131
get them to do
what you want them to do.
655
00:58:56,132 --> 00:58:58,634
If it's not one thing,
it's the other.
656
00:58:58,635 --> 00:59:01,137
Then there are different insects
that come in.
657
00:59:06,142 --> 00:59:08,143
They'll eat anything.
If they haven't got what they like,
658
00:59:08,144 --> 00:59:10,146
they'll take the next
best thing.
659
00:59:13,650 --> 00:59:16,653
It's a constant battle
all the time.
660
00:59:31,251 --> 00:59:35,255
In the ultimate form,
all of this stuff is looking at "other."
661
00:59:41,761 --> 00:59:44,763
The exploring and finding
of animals...
662
00:59:44,764 --> 00:59:48,767
It had absolutely nothing
to do with any control...
663
00:59:48,768 --> 00:59:51,771
That we as a person would have.
664
00:59:52,272 --> 00:59:56,775
That feeling that you are in the presence
of life that exists irrelevant of yourself;
665
00:59:56,776 --> 00:59:58,778
That's the "other."
666
01:00:07,787 --> 01:00:11,290
And the "other"
isn't something to be feared.
667
01:00:11,291 --> 01:00:14,293
People are afraid of new,
different, strange,
668
01:00:14,294 --> 01:00:16,795
but to me,
it isn't anything to be feared.
669
01:00:16,796 --> 01:00:20,299
It's something to be wondered at
and looked at and explored,
670
01:00:21,801 --> 01:00:24,303
perhaps communicated with.
671
01:00:24,304 --> 01:00:26,305
Not to sit down
and have a conversation,
672
01:00:26,306 --> 01:00:28,307
but to take pictures of it
and see if you can get...
673
01:00:28,308 --> 01:00:30,809
The moment where the animal
is actually looking at you...
674
01:00:30,810 --> 01:00:33,312
And you feel that there is
a moment of contact:
675
01:00:33,313 --> 01:00:36,316
I know you are. You know I am.
676
01:00:36,816 --> 01:00:38,817
It's not something
that happens every day.
677
01:00:38,818 --> 01:00:40,820
You have to go out
and look for it.
678
01:01:00,340 --> 01:01:04,343
This approach to building
robots will eventually...
679
01:01:04,344 --> 01:01:09,349
Lead to robots as intelligent
as human beings. Look out!
680
01:01:15,855 --> 01:01:17,856
Whether we'll be able...
681
01:01:17,857 --> 01:01:20,359
To interact with them
as we interact with other human beings,
682
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,361
I think, is more open
to question.
683
01:01:22,362 --> 01:01:26,366
It's unlikely they will be
embodied in the same way we are.
684
01:01:28,368 --> 01:01:30,369
They will have different
physical experiences,
685
01:01:30,370 --> 01:01:32,372
and they will be aliens to us.
686
01:01:46,886 --> 01:01:49,388
They constantly need repairing
all the time.
687
01:01:49,389 --> 01:01:52,891
If you don't do that,
they will get out of proportion.
688
01:01:52,892 --> 01:01:54,893
You can't control them anymore.
689
01:01:54,894 --> 01:01:57,396
Caesar! Hey!
690
01:01:57,397 --> 01:02:00,900
No, no!
Caesar, get it over here! Over here. Hey!
691
01:02:02,402 --> 01:02:04,903
Lay down.
692
01:02:04,904 --> 01:02:08,407
Down.
693
01:02:12,912 --> 01:02:16,916
I like the bear, myself,
because it gives me less work.
694
01:02:17,417 --> 01:02:21,420
It looks just as nice during the summer
months as it does during the winter months,
695
01:02:21,421 --> 01:02:23,922
with only two trimmings.
696
01:02:23,923 --> 01:02:29,428
But it took me 15 years
to build the bear.
697
01:02:29,429 --> 01:02:32,932
I won't live long enough
to make another bear like that one.
698
01:02:46,446 --> 01:02:50,450
Only in captivity do
animals get to get old.
699
01:02:52,452 --> 01:02:55,954
Perhaps a queen would become infertile and would
be forced out of the nest with no workers,
700
01:02:55,955 --> 01:02:57,956
and a bird would come along
and eat her.
701
01:02:57,957 --> 01:02:59,958
This is an example.
702
01:02:59,959 --> 01:03:02,961
Or perhaps,
they're digging for a tuber.
703
01:03:02,962 --> 01:03:06,465
Just as they're digging, and they're
about to get that perfect mouthful,
704
01:03:06,466 --> 01:03:09,468
an elephant walks by and goes crunch
and crunches the ground a little bit,
705
01:03:09,469 --> 01:03:12,471
and the mole-rat's squashed.
706
01:03:12,472 --> 01:03:16,475
So very few of them
will probably reach old age.
707
01:03:16,476 --> 01:03:19,479
I haven't seen any
gray-haired mole-rats.
708
01:03:23,483 --> 01:03:27,986
Once they establish this is their cage...
709
01:03:27,987 --> 01:03:32,491
This is where they eat. This is where
they sleep. This is where they drink.
710
01:03:32,492 --> 01:03:35,994
All their creature comforts
are connected with that cage.
711
01:03:35,995 --> 01:03:37,997
They don't particularly
want to leave it.
712
01:03:43,503 --> 01:03:45,504
They don't really
consider themselves caged.
713
01:03:45,505 --> 01:03:49,509
Outside the cage is the cage.
Inside is their world.
714
01:04:16,536 --> 01:04:19,539
They represent a set of
concepts and ideas...
715
01:04:19,922 --> 01:04:22,040
That were thought of
only intellectually,
716
01:04:22,041 --> 01:04:24,043
that have now become a reality.
717
01:04:26,045 --> 01:04:30,549
They were a fantasy that has now
become something that can be looked at.
718
01:04:55,575 --> 01:04:59,077
It's gonna be harder to distinguish...
719
01:04:59,078 --> 01:05:02,581
What is alive
and what is a machine,
720
01:05:02,582 --> 01:05:07,085
and that boundary may start
to become meaningless.
721
01:05:07,086 --> 01:05:11,089
On the other hand, there may
still be some distinction.
722
01:05:11,090 --> 01:05:13,592
We have conquered flight.
723
01:05:13,593 --> 01:05:18,096
We can make machines fly,
but they don't fly the same way birds fly.
724
01:05:18,097 --> 01:05:20,599
That's not to pass
any value judgment.
725
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,602
Does a bird fly better
that a 747?
726
01:05:23,603 --> 01:05:26,105
It depends on
what you're trying to do.
727
01:05:27,607 --> 01:05:30,610
They're just different ways
of living.
728
01:05:34,113 --> 01:05:38,117
Often I've called the robots that
we build "artificial creatures."
729
01:05:38,618 --> 01:05:44,122
I like to think of them as
prototypes towards entities...
730
01:05:44,123 --> 01:05:47,126
Which live in the world in the same
way that animals live in the world.
731
01:05:51,631 --> 01:05:54,132
They may still be useful to us.
732
01:05:54,133 --> 01:05:57,135
You can have a chicken
which lays eggs,
733
01:05:57,136 --> 01:05:59,638
but you don't tell the chicken,
"hey, lay an egg every day."
734
01:05:59,639 --> 01:06:02,140
You just put the chicken
in a chicken Coop...
735
01:06:02,141 --> 01:06:05,144
And give it food,
and out comes an egg every day.
736
01:06:12,652 --> 01:06:15,654
The zen of watching them.
They have the same fascination...
737
01:06:15,655 --> 01:06:19,157
That you would have in looking
at fish in a fish tank...
738
01:06:19,158 --> 01:06:21,159
Or ants in an ant colony.
739
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:26,164
It's constant movement, only it's
bigger, and it has more of a purpose.
740
01:06:26,165 --> 01:06:28,167
It's trying to figure out
what the purpose is...
741
01:06:28,668 --> 01:06:30,670
That interests me.
742
01:06:51,190 --> 01:06:55,694
I don't expect anybody to
come in and do what I did...
743
01:06:55,695 --> 01:06:59,197
Because they don't have
that experience.
744
01:06:59,198 --> 01:07:03,201
I was told by several professors
from the different schools,
745
01:07:03,202 --> 01:07:07,706
"George, nobody can come in...
With all the book knowledge they've got...
746
01:07:07,707 --> 01:07:11,210
Nobody can come in
and do what you're doing."
747
01:07:26,225 --> 01:07:28,227
I never really left the circus.
748
01:07:28,728 --> 01:07:32,230
I left traveling
with the circus.
749
01:07:32,231 --> 01:07:35,734
I never was completely
unemployed by them.
750
01:07:36,235 --> 01:07:39,238
I couldn't go work
for somebody else, really.
751
01:07:43,242 --> 01:07:44,743
The girl we have working now,
752
01:07:45,244 --> 01:07:47,245
she's young
and doing a very good job,
753
01:07:47,246 --> 01:07:49,247
but she has a lot to learn.
754
01:07:49,248 --> 01:07:51,249
Cobra, come on.
755
01:07:51,250 --> 01:07:54,253
She has all the young animals.
756
01:07:54,754 --> 01:07:59,257
They're growing up together, and,
hopefully, they'll both learn something.
757
01:07:59,258 --> 01:08:02,260
I hope the tigers don't learn
more than she does,
758
01:08:02,261 --> 01:08:05,764
because that can be bad.
759
01:08:09,769 --> 01:08:13,773
But I'm there.
We'll make sure nothing happens to her.
760
01:08:17,777 --> 01:08:21,279
Simba, simba! Let's go, simba.
761
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,783
Like I say, it's a lot easier
for me to do it than watch it.
762
01:08:34,293 --> 01:08:35,794
Easy, renzo.
763
01:08:38,297 --> 01:08:40,799
- Get up. Up.
- I've tried understudies.
764
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,803
I've had several understudies,
but they lose interest in it.
765
01:08:44,804 --> 01:08:49,307
Very few of them want to do
the same thing too long. Good.
766
01:08:49,308 --> 01:08:52,310
They have an idea
that you trim 'em and then just sit back...
767
01:08:52,311 --> 01:08:54,813
And that's it,
but it's not that easy.
768
01:08:56,816 --> 01:08:59,317
It's been more
than half my life,
769
01:08:59,318 --> 01:09:02,321
and I'd hate to see
anything happen to it.
770
01:10:22,902 --> 01:10:26,405
For me, the interest with the
mole-rats is a lifelong interest.
771
01:10:26,906 --> 01:10:29,407
But, in and of itself,
772
01:10:29,408 --> 01:10:32,911
the mole-rat
could have been a bird.
773
01:10:32,912 --> 01:10:36,916
It could have been something
that looked totally different; A pig.
774
01:10:37,416 --> 01:10:40,919
It's the intellectual part of it
that's as stimulating as the reality.
775
01:10:41,420 --> 01:10:44,260
This has nothing to do with science.
This is not scientific observation.
776
01:10:44,423 --> 01:10:48,426
I look at them strictly
from the point of...
777
01:10:48,427 --> 01:10:50,929
Self-knowledge, of learning
not only about them,
778
01:10:50,930 --> 01:10:53,431
but about myself
and the way they react...
779
01:10:53,432 --> 01:10:56,935
And act towards each other.
780
01:11:03,943 --> 01:11:08,948
I now have a colony of mole-rats in
the studio, which is also my home.
781
01:11:13,953 --> 01:11:17,456
They sit behind my desk
and when things are slow they chirp for me.
782
01:11:21,961 --> 01:11:24,963
Many people will move
because they live in a rat...
783
01:11:24,964 --> 01:11:27,966
Or a mouse
or a vermin-infested home.
784
01:11:27,967 --> 01:11:30,970
For me,
it's a whole other issue.
785
01:11:31,470 --> 01:11:35,974
I actually moved with my vermin to make sure
they would always be with me wherever I go.
786
01:11:51,490 --> 01:11:55,994
Some of the researchers view
building these robots...
787
01:11:55,995 --> 01:11:57,996
As the next step in evolution;
788
01:11:57,997 --> 01:12:02,500
A step beyond mere human bodies,
which decay after 70 years.
789
01:12:02,501 --> 01:12:06,004
Building something
that can reproduce at a much faster rate...
790
01:12:06,505 --> 01:12:09,508
And carry on through the life
of the universe.
791
01:12:52,051 --> 01:12:54,052
You always operate on the principle...
792
01:12:54,053 --> 01:12:58,056
That they're never
gonna kill you.
793
01:12:58,057 --> 01:13:02,060
I've had two friends that were trainers
killed since I've been in the business.
794
01:13:02,061 --> 01:13:04,562
We know it can happen.
It's like lighting matches:
795
01:13:04,563 --> 01:13:07,566
You can get burnedif you aren't careful.
796
01:13:09,568 --> 01:13:12,570
But, no, I kind of figure
I'll probably...
797
01:13:12,571 --> 01:13:15,073
Get killed
in an automobile accident...
798
01:13:15,074 --> 01:13:17,575
Or run over by a bus...
799
01:13:17,576 --> 01:13:22,080
Or maybe...
800
01:13:22,081 --> 01:13:24,083
A heart attack.
801
01:13:26,085 --> 01:13:30,088
The problem with most wild animal
trainers is they don't retire anyway.
802
01:13:30,089 --> 01:13:32,090
Very few of them retire.
803
01:13:32,091 --> 01:13:34,092
They train lions
till the day they die.
804
01:13:34,093 --> 01:13:37,096
A lot of them die
of heart attacks.
805
01:13:38,597 --> 01:13:41,099
Clyde beatty died of cancer.
806
01:13:42,101 --> 01:13:45,104
Never smoked in his life either.
807
01:13:50,109 --> 01:13:54,112
Of course, I don't think anybody
thinks they're ever gonna die, do they?
808
01:13:54,113 --> 01:13:58,117
But it'll happen.
809
01:14:04,123 --> 01:14:08,126
Do you miss Clyde beatty? Yes.
810
01:14:08,127 --> 01:14:10,628
I miss him.
811
01:14:10,629 --> 01:14:12,630
I think I miss him just like...
812
01:14:12,631 --> 01:14:16,634
I think we lost part
of the industry.
813
01:14:16,635 --> 01:14:20,638
We lost part of the circus
industry when we lost him.
814
01:14:20,639 --> 01:14:22,641
And, uh...
815
01:14:24,143 --> 01:14:28,146
I don't know
if there will ever be...
816
01:14:28,147 --> 01:14:33,151
Anyone of that stature
left in this business.
817
01:14:33,152 --> 01:14:37,155
I don't even know whether
the situation would arise...
818
01:14:37,156 --> 01:14:41,159
That we could even develop
someone of that stature.
819
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,662
He may have been at the right
place at the right time,
820
01:14:44,663 --> 01:14:50,168
but he was a great performer
and a great trainer.
821
01:14:51,670 --> 01:14:56,174
And I don't think there'll
ever be another one.
822
01:14:58,177 --> 01:15:00,179
Certainly not me.
823
01:15:49,728 --> 01:15:53,231
Some people really believe that...
824
01:15:53,232 --> 01:15:56,734
We are gonna replace ourselves
by building these machines...
825
01:15:56,735 --> 01:16:00,238
And carbon-based life
is on the way out...
826
01:16:00,739 --> 01:16:04,242
And silicon-based life
will be what emerges...
827
01:16:04,243 --> 01:16:06,744
And is the next step,
828
01:16:06,745 --> 01:16:10,748
if you want to make things
sequential, in evolution.
829
01:16:10,749 --> 01:16:13,251
That may be.
830
01:16:13,252 --> 01:16:15,753
There may not be a place
for humans in the future...
831
01:16:15,754 --> 01:16:19,257
If we're really successful
at building these systems.
832
01:16:19,258 --> 01:16:21,259
They may, in fact,
833
01:16:21,260 --> 01:16:25,264
be our legacy to the future.
834
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,302
Earthquake!
835
01:18:11,370 --> 01:18:14,872
She said, "don't let anything
happen to green animals."
836
01:18:14,873 --> 01:18:16,875
Keep green animals going."
837
01:18:18,877 --> 01:18:23,381
I said, "as long as I live,
I'll take care of it."
838
01:18:24,883 --> 01:18:27,886
I don't know
what will happen after that.
839
01:19:25,944 --> 01:19:28,946
Hup!
840
01:19:28,947 --> 01:19:31,950
Okay, let 'em go! Ho!
841
01:21:50,589 --> 01:21:53,090
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
842
01:21:53,091 --> 01:21:55,593
count together, backwards.
843
01:21:55,594 --> 01:21:59,597
Five... four... three...
844
01:21:59,598 --> 01:22:02,100
Two... one... fire!
74046
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