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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,417 --> 00:00:13,167 My whole life, I've been fascinated by the universe 2 00:00:13,292 --> 00:00:15,018 and what's out there beyond Earth. 3 00:00:15,042 --> 00:00:17,184 It led me to obtain advanced degrees 4 00:00:17,208 --> 00:00:20,042 in astrophysics, aerospace engineering, 5 00:00:20,208 --> 00:00:22,250 and optical science. 6 00:00:22,375 --> 00:00:25,375 Then I got to work over the past three decades 7 00:00:25,542 --> 00:00:28,792 with NASA, the U.S. Army, and the Department of Defense. 8 00:00:28,917 --> 00:00:30,458 Travis. 9 00:00:30,583 --> 00:00:32,351 - Hey, Brandon. How you doing? - Brandon Fugal. 10 00:00:32,375 --> 00:00:35,042 Four years ago, I got the chance of a lifetime 11 00:00:35,167 --> 00:00:36,917 to join an amazing team 12 00:00:37,042 --> 00:00:38,934 in their investigation of the most bizarre place 13 00:00:38,958 --> 00:00:40,059 I'd ever heard of: 14 00:00:40,083 --> 00:00:41,875 Skinwalker Ranch. 15 00:00:42,042 --> 00:00:45,833 At first, I was skeptical of all the legends, 16 00:00:45,958 --> 00:00:49,333 but from day one, we've experienced things together 17 00:00:49,500 --> 00:00:52,184 that I thought were only possible in science fiction. 18 00:00:52,208 --> 00:00:54,559 - What are you seeing? - A signal? 19 00:00:54,583 --> 00:00:57,458 Massive energy spikes that come out of nowhere 20 00:00:57,583 --> 00:00:59,958 1.60000. 21 00:01:00,083 --> 00:01:03,042 Boy that thing sounds like it's hitting something. 22 00:01:03,167 --> 00:01:05,559 Evidence of a 400-foot-long, 23 00:01:05,583 --> 00:01:09,000 dome-shaped object buried inside a rocky mesa. 24 00:01:09,125 --> 00:01:12,393 Yeah, I'm up against something pretty hard right now. 25 00:01:12,417 --> 00:01:14,250 Inexplicable animal deaths... 26 00:01:14,375 --> 00:01:17,083 There's no sign of struggle, it's just dead. 27 00:01:17,208 --> 00:01:19,167 And a ton of UAPs. 28 00:01:19,333 --> 00:01:20,726 Look, look, look, what is that? 29 00:01:20,750 --> 00:01:21,917 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. 30 00:01:22,042 --> 00:01:23,458 - UAP right there! - Yup. 31 00:01:24,708 --> 00:01:26,667 Recently, some documents were released 32 00:01:26,792 --> 00:01:29,500 to the public about a program run by the Pentagon 33 00:01:29,625 --> 00:01:31,500 known as UAPTF. 34 00:01:31,667 --> 00:01:35,167 The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force. 35 00:01:36,250 --> 00:01:38,393 It was created about four years ago 36 00:01:38,417 --> 00:01:40,018 for the study of UAPs 37 00:01:40,042 --> 00:01:44,018 and phenomena like what we've experienced on Skinwalker Ranch. 38 00:01:44,042 --> 00:01:48,542 These documents also revealed that I was the chief scientist 39 00:01:48,708 --> 00:01:51,917 for the UAPTF, and I helped to author 40 00:01:52,042 --> 00:01:55,184 the official report that was presented to Congress in 2021. 41 00:01:55,208 --> 00:01:58,250 However, I wasn't permitted to disclose 42 00:01:58,375 --> 00:02:00,625 any of this to the team on the ranch. 43 00:02:02,250 --> 00:02:04,875 So, now, as I'm returning to join them once again 44 00:02:05,042 --> 00:02:08,393 for what I consider to be the most critical investigation 45 00:02:08,417 --> 00:02:11,167 of the UAP phenomenon in the world, 46 00:02:11,333 --> 00:02:14,333 I'm real eager to discuss what I can with them, 47 00:02:14,458 --> 00:02:17,667 and I'm curious what their response will be. 48 00:02:18,875 --> 00:02:22,708 There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 49 00:02:22,875 --> 00:02:24,708 It is considered the epicenter 50 00:02:24,833 --> 00:02:29,542 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 51 00:02:29,708 --> 00:02:34,018 Animal mutilations, bizarre UFO sightings 52 00:02:34,042 --> 00:02:39,333 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 53 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:42,167 For 20 years, the federal government 54 00:02:42,333 --> 00:02:45,167 tried to find answers and failed. 55 00:02:45,333 --> 00:02:49,375 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 56 00:02:49,500 --> 00:02:53,375 researchers and experts has taken over. 57 00:02:53,542 --> 00:02:57,708 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal. 58 00:02:59,583 --> 00:03:03,667 The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 59 00:03:17,083 --> 00:03:18,875 Hey, Dragon, this is, Cameron. 60 00:03:19,042 --> 00:03:20,292 I have Brandon on board. 61 00:03:20,417 --> 00:03:23,583 We're on the perimeter of Skinwalker Ranch. We're inbound. 62 00:03:26,875 --> 00:03:30,393 I'm Brandon Fugal, the owner of Skinwalker Ranch. 63 00:03:30,417 --> 00:03:33,333 I'm really excited to pull together the team today. 64 00:03:33,458 --> 00:03:35,917 Every time that we enter the ranch, 65 00:03:36,042 --> 00:03:38,250 there are new discoveries and 66 00:03:38,375 --> 00:03:41,208 sometimes new dangers that arise. 67 00:03:43,042 --> 00:03:46,167 We've seen more evidence of the reality of the phenomenon, 68 00:03:46,292 --> 00:03:49,500 and we are committed to getting the answers. 69 00:03:49,625 --> 00:03:51,667 Here we come in 70 00:03:51,833 --> 00:03:54,417 for our landing at the Skinwalker Ranch helipad. 71 00:03:54,542 --> 00:03:57,417 The revelation that Dr. Taylor 72 00:03:57,542 --> 00:04:00,226 had been acting as the chief scientist 73 00:04:00,250 --> 00:04:02,000 for the Pentagon's UAP Task Force 74 00:04:02,125 --> 00:04:05,542 came as a shock to all of us. 75 00:04:05,667 --> 00:04:07,500 I think we're still processing 76 00:04:07,667 --> 00:04:10,333 the reality of what that means. 77 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:13,375 I found it to be intriguing. 78 00:04:13,542 --> 00:04:15,667 I found it to be confirmation 79 00:04:15,833 --> 00:04:17,893 that we are truly on to something. 80 00:04:17,917 --> 00:04:20,333 - Hey. - Welcome back. 81 00:04:20,458 --> 00:04:22,059 - Good to see you, friend. - You, too. 82 00:04:22,083 --> 00:04:24,708 Hey, Kaleb. It's good to be back. 83 00:04:24,875 --> 00:04:27,708 We're ready to kick off another phase of this investigation. 84 00:04:27,875 --> 00:04:29,893 It's always good to see my good friend Brandon, 85 00:04:29,917 --> 00:04:31,477 and we're excited to get him up to date 86 00:04:31,542 --> 00:04:32,726 on what we've been doing. 87 00:04:32,750 --> 00:04:35,059 - Is the team assembled? - Yep. 88 00:04:35,083 --> 00:04:36,083 Great. 89 00:04:36,208 --> 00:04:38,542 Today, we kick off 90 00:04:38,708 --> 00:04:41,417 the new research investigation this summer. 91 00:04:41,542 --> 00:04:44,083 I left last year being pretty disturbed 92 00:04:44,208 --> 00:04:46,458 about some of the things that I witnessed, 93 00:04:46,583 --> 00:04:48,917 and so, I wonder, you know, what lies ahead 94 00:04:49,042 --> 00:04:51,833 and what crazy things are we gonna experience this year? 95 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:56,375 Let's proceed. We've got a-a big day ahead of us. 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,208 And an exciting time to kick off this phase of the investigation. 97 00:05:05,333 --> 00:05:07,667 - Great to have Dr. Taylor back. - Thank you. 98 00:05:07,833 --> 00:05:11,226 We had some interesting surprises over the last weeks 99 00:05:11,250 --> 00:05:12,726 with Dr. Taylor, 100 00:05:12,750 --> 00:05:16,393 the former chief scientist for the Pentagon's UAP Task Force. 101 00:05:16,417 --> 00:05:20,333 It would be great to hear you shed some light on 102 00:05:20,458 --> 00:05:23,750 your role and how that has, 103 00:05:23,875 --> 00:05:27,375 impacted our investigation and-and how 104 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:29,875 that may influence things moving forward. 105 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,458 Sure. 106 00:05:31,583 --> 00:05:34,393 Well, so it started in a way 107 00:05:34,417 --> 00:05:36,542 that you'd be surprised, actually. 108 00:05:36,708 --> 00:05:39,708 So, that first summer, back in 2019, I guess it was, 109 00:05:39,875 --> 00:05:43,226 there were some, signals that we had measured, 110 00:05:43,250 --> 00:05:45,417 that I was concerned, 111 00:05:45,542 --> 00:05:48,667 was a national security implication, and 112 00:05:48,792 --> 00:05:51,750 it was this 1.6 gigahertz signal. 113 00:05:51,875 --> 00:05:53,208 Really? 114 00:05:53,375 --> 00:05:57,167 Erik, are you doing something at 1.6? 115 00:05:57,333 --> 00:05:58,417 I'm not broadcasting. 116 00:05:58,542 --> 00:06:00,226 Over the past three years, 117 00:06:00,250 --> 00:06:03,750 we've repeatedly detected an energy frequency measuring 118 00:06:03,875 --> 00:06:05,333 1.6 gigahertz... 119 00:06:06,750 --> 00:06:08,393 What-what the heck is that? 120 00:06:08,417 --> 00:06:10,500 Which we've suspected could be 121 00:06:10,667 --> 00:06:12,542 some kind of communication signal. 122 00:06:12,708 --> 00:06:16,458 Now, normal human technology like cell phones and radios 123 00:06:16,583 --> 00:06:18,625 don't typically operate at that frequency. 124 00:06:18,750 --> 00:06:22,250 So, with all the bizarre phenomena we've seen out here, 125 00:06:22,375 --> 00:06:23,875 I wondered who or what 126 00:06:24,042 --> 00:06:27,542 could be broadcasting that signal out here on the ranch. 127 00:06:27,667 --> 00:06:29,417 I went to the Pentagon to brief, 128 00:06:29,542 --> 00:06:32,351 to find out if this was us doing it or if it was 129 00:06:32,375 --> 00:06:33,458 somebody else doing it. 130 00:06:33,583 --> 00:06:35,583 Foreign adversaries that may be involved. 131 00:06:35,708 --> 00:06:37,226 Yes, and-and I had... So, I had to report it 132 00:06:37,250 --> 00:06:38,226 to the right officials. 133 00:06:38,250 --> 00:06:40,018 So, I went to a room in the Pentagon, 134 00:06:40,042 --> 00:06:44,500 and I, I briefed, what I'd seen, and then this guy 135 00:06:44,667 --> 00:06:46,375 comes into the room, and, he asks 136 00:06:46,542 --> 00:06:48,184 everybody else but me to leave. 137 00:06:48,208 --> 00:06:51,667 And he said, "I'm the director of the UAP Task Force." 138 00:06:51,833 --> 00:06:54,143 "This is very interesting, and what I'd like to do is invite 139 00:06:54,167 --> 00:06:56,500 "you to, come on-on board and be the chief scientist 140 00:06:56,667 --> 00:06:58,059 for the Task Force." 141 00:06:58,083 --> 00:06:59,708 And he presented me 142 00:06:59,833 --> 00:07:01,893 to both Congress and the White House 143 00:07:01,917 --> 00:07:03,726 as the chief scientist of the Task Force, 144 00:07:03,750 --> 00:07:05,917 and, and it wasn't until 145 00:07:06,042 --> 00:07:08,833 he and I both retired within the last six months, 146 00:07:08,958 --> 00:07:11,750 and, we were approved to r-reveal 147 00:07:11,875 --> 00:07:14,559 that we actually were a part of that-that Task Force. 148 00:07:14,583 --> 00:07:16,750 Interesting. Were they able 149 00:07:16,875 --> 00:07:18,625 to shed light on whether we're dealing 150 00:07:18,750 --> 00:07:20,500 with a foreign adversary or the nature 151 00:07:20,667 --> 00:07:22,627 of what we're recording here at Skinwalker Ranch? 152 00:07:22,667 --> 00:07:24,518 So, according to the charter written 153 00:07:24,542 --> 00:07:26,018 in the National Defense Authorization Act, 154 00:07:26,042 --> 00:07:28,708 they had to tell us if they were doing something. 155 00:07:28,875 --> 00:07:31,167 Turns out it's not us, it's not anybody 156 00:07:31,333 --> 00:07:33,583 that we know of, so what is it? 157 00:07:35,292 --> 00:07:38,625 I know a lot of our team members have been really concerned 158 00:07:38,750 --> 00:07:42,417 that they weren't actually privy to your role. 159 00:07:42,542 --> 00:07:44,000 Yeah, well, 160 00:07:44,125 --> 00:07:48,059 you know, I was bound by an oath and legal, requirements. 161 00:07:48,083 --> 00:07:49,875 I could not say it. If I would've said it, 162 00:07:50,042 --> 00:07:50,875 I'd have gone to jail. 163 00:07:51,042 --> 00:07:54,250 Right? I can tell you now that, I'm in 164 00:07:54,375 --> 00:07:57,708 the private sector, and I see this as a huge opportunity here. 165 00:07:57,833 --> 00:08:01,375 That, hopefully, we'll see assets come available for us. 166 00:08:01,542 --> 00:08:03,667 - Well, it has to be reciprocal. - I agree. 167 00:08:03,792 --> 00:08:05,392 - This has to be a give-and-take. - Yeah. 168 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:06,684 Especially when we're dealing with 169 00:08:06,708 --> 00:08:09,042 - such sensitive material. - I agree. 170 00:08:09,208 --> 00:08:11,500 It was hard for me to keep information 171 00:08:11,667 --> 00:08:13,417 from everyone on the ranch because 172 00:08:13,542 --> 00:08:15,875 it's critical that we act and feel like a team. 173 00:08:16,042 --> 00:08:18,667 But I also completely understand why the government 174 00:08:18,833 --> 00:08:21,000 needed me to keep some things confidential. 175 00:08:21,125 --> 00:08:24,726 Thankfully, now that I've left the UAP Task Force, 176 00:08:24,750 --> 00:08:26,667 there will be no more need for secrets. 177 00:08:26,833 --> 00:08:30,875 I can say from, my personal, experience here, 178 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,667 and from, what we've, uncovered and investigated, 179 00:08:34,792 --> 00:08:37,083 this is a hot spot that, 180 00:08:37,208 --> 00:08:39,000 everybody's looking at, and-and 181 00:08:39,125 --> 00:08:41,167 they wish they had the access that we have 182 00:08:41,292 --> 00:08:44,208 on the daily basis to do the tests and measurements. 183 00:08:44,375 --> 00:08:46,726 So, if I'm correct here, 184 00:08:46,750 --> 00:08:50,667 it was the work that you started doing here 185 00:08:50,792 --> 00:08:53,018 that led to your opportunity 186 00:08:53,042 --> 00:08:54,402 - to be part of... - That's right. 187 00:08:54,458 --> 00:08:57,542 That's coming from the guy that told us we were all nuts 188 00:08:57,667 --> 00:08:58,934 when we first invited you to come out here. 189 00:08:58,958 --> 00:09:00,143 I knew you were gonna say that. 190 00:09:00,167 --> 00:09:01,333 Just saying, I love it. 191 00:09:01,458 --> 00:09:04,500 Dr. Taylor's involvement with the UAP Task Force, 192 00:09:04,667 --> 00:09:06,417 this is of course a revelation. 193 00:09:06,542 --> 00:09:08,393 It doesn't really change my outlook 194 00:09:08,417 --> 00:09:10,042 on his contributions here, 195 00:09:10,208 --> 00:09:12,726 but I also welcome any insights that may have come out 196 00:09:12,750 --> 00:09:15,875 of his involvement with the UAP Task Force. 197 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,708 So, Erik, what would you propose as far as experiments? 198 00:09:20,875 --> 00:09:22,500 We've got a lot of planned activities. 199 00:09:22,667 --> 00:09:25,708 Um, some of them based in the work that we did 200 00:09:25,833 --> 00:09:27,101 the last time we were all together. 201 00:09:27,125 --> 00:09:29,333 One of the big findings, of course, was 202 00:09:29,458 --> 00:09:31,000 what was inside that mesa. 203 00:09:31,125 --> 00:09:32,417 Right. 204 00:09:32,542 --> 00:09:34,333 And what did we pull out? Metal. 205 00:09:34,458 --> 00:09:36,667 Right. It's an aerospace-style, 206 00:09:36,833 --> 00:09:38,833 manufactured material, 207 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,917 not something that happens naturally. 208 00:09:41,042 --> 00:09:42,042 Yeah. 209 00:09:42,750 --> 00:09:44,042 Last year, 210 00:09:44,208 --> 00:09:45,934 while drilling horizontally into the mesa... 211 00:09:45,958 --> 00:09:48,875 Wow, look at all the metal. 212 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,083 We extracted pieces of metal from a massive, 213 00:09:51,208 --> 00:09:54,417 dome-shaped object that the drill couldn't penetrate. 214 00:09:54,542 --> 00:09:57,792 You did the analysis of the, samples that we sent? 215 00:09:57,917 --> 00:09:59,708 Yes, we did. 216 00:09:59,875 --> 00:10:02,833 And when we had them analyzed at the University of Utah, 217 00:10:02,958 --> 00:10:05,667 we found out that they were composed of a mixture 218 00:10:05,792 --> 00:10:07,542 of elements that NASA used 219 00:10:07,667 --> 00:10:10,018 as a protective coating on the space shuttles. 220 00:10:10,042 --> 00:10:11,750 So, one of our main goals this year 221 00:10:11,875 --> 00:10:14,333 is to determine just what could be buried 222 00:10:14,458 --> 00:10:15,833 inside that mesa. 223 00:10:16,917 --> 00:10:19,708 I think one of the ways we get answers to the mesa 224 00:10:19,875 --> 00:10:21,917 is to do a different kind of survey, 225 00:10:22,042 --> 00:10:25,250 and I'm thinking ground-penetrating radar. 226 00:10:25,375 --> 00:10:28,542 So, we have a GPR capability that we're going to deploy 227 00:10:28,708 --> 00:10:30,958 this year, which is gonna allow us to kind of paint 228 00:10:31,083 --> 00:10:33,559 that whole area and see down into the ground 229 00:10:33,583 --> 00:10:35,333 and see if maybe there is a big, a big void 230 00:10:35,500 --> 00:10:37,500 like we've had described to us. 231 00:10:37,667 --> 00:10:38,667 Excellent. 232 00:10:38,833 --> 00:10:40,633 Also, I want to continue expanding the effort 233 00:10:40,667 --> 00:10:42,018 out into the homestead, of course, 234 00:10:42,042 --> 00:10:44,625 but also, we have this opportunity 235 00:10:44,750 --> 00:10:46,559 right out there at the triangle. 236 00:10:46,583 --> 00:10:47,667 Yeah. 237 00:10:47,833 --> 00:10:49,500 Over the past three years, 238 00:10:49,667 --> 00:10:51,893 we've been perplexed by a zone 239 00:10:51,917 --> 00:10:55,417 about a mile above a place on the ranch we call the triangle. 240 00:10:56,750 --> 00:10:58,167 We've got liftoff. 241 00:10:58,292 --> 00:11:00,750 My God, during launch, the electromagnetic spectrum 242 00:11:00,875 --> 00:11:03,750 is going crazy, guys. I've never seen anything like it. 243 00:11:03,875 --> 00:11:06,893 We've detected the 1.6 gigahertz signal there, 244 00:11:06,917 --> 00:11:09,083 and we've seen rockets 245 00:11:09,208 --> 00:11:11,750 and lasers deflected by some invisible 246 00:11:11,875 --> 00:11:14,083 force or object. 247 00:11:15,458 --> 00:11:17,851 So, I'm showing radar altimeter, it's showing 248 00:11:17,875 --> 00:11:19,893 we're only 40 feet above the ground right now. 249 00:11:19,917 --> 00:11:21,393 We also took. 250 00:11:21,417 --> 00:11:23,833 Brandon's helicopter up there to scan it 251 00:11:23,958 --> 00:11:26,125 and had a shadowy UAP fly 252 00:11:26,250 --> 00:11:29,542 back and forth about 40 feet below us. 253 00:11:29,708 --> 00:11:30,833 - See that? - My gosh. 254 00:11:30,958 --> 00:11:33,667 And last year... Here. 255 00:11:33,833 --> 00:11:35,917 This thing's really clipping along. 256 00:11:36,042 --> 00:11:36,833 My gosh. 257 00:11:36,958 --> 00:11:38,875 It disappeared. Can you replay that? 258 00:11:39,042 --> 00:11:41,667 We watched a UAP ascend from the mesa 259 00:11:41,833 --> 00:11:43,583 toward that mile-high zone 260 00:11:43,708 --> 00:11:45,875 and then just vanish into thin air. 261 00:11:46,042 --> 00:11:48,000 Are we seeing portals open? 262 00:11:48,125 --> 00:11:51,000 - Yeah. - Brandon's not crazy to mention portals. 263 00:11:51,125 --> 00:11:52,917 People, including scientists, 264 00:11:53,042 --> 00:11:55,542 have reported seeing portals here for years. 265 00:11:55,708 --> 00:11:57,708 I just don't know what to make of all that yet. 266 00:11:57,875 --> 00:12:02,667 There's a level of anomalous phenomena 267 00:12:02,792 --> 00:12:05,351 happening over the triangle that, somehow, 268 00:12:05,375 --> 00:12:06,583 we need a better handle on. 269 00:12:06,708 --> 00:12:08,000 That begs the question, then. 270 00:12:08,167 --> 00:12:11,226 - How do we follow up? - So, I'm contemplating 271 00:12:11,250 --> 00:12:14,250 a new experiment, you know, taking a-a slam scanner, 272 00:12:14,375 --> 00:12:17,500 a LIDAR-based device, up into the air with the helicopter. 273 00:12:17,625 --> 00:12:20,167 That's a good idea. You know, it would be nice to have 274 00:12:20,333 --> 00:12:22,375 a really good LIDAR measurement at altitude, 275 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:25,500 at 5,000 feet, right over the center of the triangle. 276 00:12:25,625 --> 00:12:27,025 Could we do that with a helicopter? 277 00:12:27,125 --> 00:12:29,333 How heavy is this equipment? 278 00:12:29,500 --> 00:12:31,768 Well, it's-it's hand held. It's a hand held LIDAR device. 279 00:12:31,792 --> 00:12:33,667 - Yeah. - So, we'll open the doors, 280 00:12:33,792 --> 00:12:36,750 and-and fly around the perimetry of it, 281 00:12:36,875 --> 00:12:39,500 holding the LIDAR out the edge of the door 282 00:12:39,667 --> 00:12:42,500 and-and mapping as we go. It takes its own 283 00:12:42,667 --> 00:12:44,958 GPS information, which will be interesting 284 00:12:45,083 --> 00:12:47,351 if it gets anomalous behavior from that. 285 00:12:47,375 --> 00:12:50,042 So, while members of the team are out there conducting 286 00:12:50,167 --> 00:12:52,583 these experiments, I think it would be smart to have 287 00:12:52,708 --> 00:12:55,226 Tom and Kandus and Jim 288 00:12:55,250 --> 00:12:57,208 move out to the community in order 289 00:12:57,375 --> 00:13:01,059 to interview those who will bring additional information 290 00:13:01,083 --> 00:13:02,393 and experiences to light. 291 00:13:02,417 --> 00:13:04,393 I'm actually finding the community, 292 00:13:04,417 --> 00:13:05,875 willing to embrace us. 293 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,960 I think a lot of it is because of the credibility 294 00:13:08,042 --> 00:13:09,122 that we bring to the table. 295 00:13:09,208 --> 00:13:10,375 Yeah, so we are excited. 296 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:13,833 We have a lot of leads in the community this year. 297 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,351 Yeah, so that stigma is breaking down 298 00:13:16,375 --> 00:13:17,393 like we've-we've said, 299 00:13:17,417 --> 00:13:20,833 and it is easier to get people to-to speak. 300 00:13:20,958 --> 00:13:24,726 Well, for you, for Jim and you, 301 00:13:24,750 --> 00:13:26,268 thank you for building those relationships. 302 00:13:26,292 --> 00:13:28,542 Yeah, thank you. You bet. Thank you. 303 00:13:28,667 --> 00:13:30,893 Thank you, everyone, for your continued hard work. 304 00:13:30,917 --> 00:13:32,375 We all have our marching orders. 305 00:13:32,542 --> 00:13:34,333 Let's press onward. 306 00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:35,684 - Thank you. - Thanks, Brandon. 307 00:13:35,708 --> 00:13:38,458 Fantastic. Let's get to work, guys. We got a lot to do. 308 00:13:45,250 --> 00:13:46,250 Hey, fellas. 309 00:13:46,375 --> 00:13:48,726 Finally meeting the great Pete Kelsey. 310 00:13:48,750 --> 00:13:50,101 - Finally meeting you. - Thank you. 311 00:13:50,125 --> 00:13:53,393 After our first meeting, technologist Pete Kelsey arrived 312 00:13:53,417 --> 00:13:55,125 to help us with our first experiment 313 00:13:55,250 --> 00:13:56,583 of the year at the triangle. 314 00:13:56,708 --> 00:13:58,042 Over the last couple of years, 315 00:13:58,208 --> 00:14:00,333 he's brought in numerous scanning devices 316 00:14:00,458 --> 00:14:04,018 that have detected a lot of phenomena all across the ranch. 317 00:14:04,042 --> 00:14:06,833 So, what do we have here? 318 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,875 That is the Hovermap. 319 00:14:09,042 --> 00:14:11,333 Um, basically, hand held LIDAR. 320 00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:14,833 I'm gonna strap myself to your helicopter 321 00:14:14,958 --> 00:14:17,375 and see what we get. 322 00:14:17,542 --> 00:14:20,667 Are you saying you're going to literally hang outside 323 00:14:20,792 --> 00:14:24,750 the helicopter and scan the space with this device? 324 00:14:24,875 --> 00:14:27,292 With your permission, of course. 325 00:14:27,417 --> 00:14:28,583 Okay. 326 00:14:28,708 --> 00:14:32,000 As Cameron Fugal flies me and Pete Kelsey 327 00:14:32,125 --> 00:14:35,167 up through the triangle, Pete will be strapped in 328 00:14:35,333 --> 00:14:37,393 and scanning the area with a LIDAR device. 329 00:14:37,417 --> 00:14:40,208 It works by emitting infrared laser light 330 00:14:40,375 --> 00:14:42,375 that we hope will reveal anything 331 00:14:42,542 --> 00:14:44,958 that can't be seen with the naked eye, 332 00:14:45,083 --> 00:14:48,018 and might help explain all the UAPs 333 00:14:48,042 --> 00:14:50,351 and other phenomena we've detected up there. 334 00:14:50,375 --> 00:14:53,833 So, that is the first part of our exercise today. 335 00:14:53,958 --> 00:14:56,333 - There's a second part. - What's that? 336 00:14:56,458 --> 00:15:00,083 Erik's gonna turn on a broadcast 337 00:15:00,208 --> 00:15:01,893 of the 1.6 gigahertz signal. Right? 338 00:15:01,917 --> 00:15:05,559 Then, when we get to 5,000 feet, these guys 339 00:15:05,583 --> 00:15:07,500 are gonna launch a rocket 340 00:15:07,625 --> 00:15:09,583 from here. Now, it's gonna go up 341 00:15:09,708 --> 00:15:11,809 probably to about 1,500 feet, no more than 2,000 feet. 342 00:15:11,833 --> 00:15:14,083 I-I feel comfortable with that. 343 00:15:14,208 --> 00:15:17,250 Now, isn't... aren't rockets 344 00:15:17,375 --> 00:15:21,833 and broadcasting at 1.6 how you make things happen here? 345 00:15:21,958 --> 00:15:22,893 Yeah. 346 00:15:22,917 --> 00:15:26,167 Now, the first part of our exercise today 347 00:15:26,292 --> 00:15:28,417 is an area on the eastern side of the property 348 00:15:28,542 --> 00:15:31,708 where we've seen anomalous data in our photogrammetry, 349 00:15:31,833 --> 00:15:33,893 - suggestive of something. - Yeah. 350 00:15:33,917 --> 00:15:35,833 Pete, you caught this with your first scan 351 00:15:35,958 --> 00:15:36,833 with the photogrammetry. 352 00:15:36,958 --> 00:15:38,542 Now, you get to go hover 353 00:15:38,667 --> 00:15:39,934 above it in a helicopter and see 354 00:15:39,958 --> 00:15:41,518 if you can catch it with your LIDAR. 355 00:15:41,542 --> 00:15:44,018 The east field is a location 356 00:15:44,042 --> 00:15:46,184 about a half a mile from the triangle 357 00:15:46,208 --> 00:15:48,667 where some of the strangest things have happened 358 00:15:48,833 --> 00:15:50,375 during our investigation. 359 00:15:50,542 --> 00:15:51,583 Spinning up. 360 00:15:51,708 --> 00:15:54,208 Right at the end of last year, 361 00:15:54,333 --> 00:15:57,000 Pete conducted a photogrammetry scan in the east field 362 00:15:57,167 --> 00:15:59,583 near a mysterious circle of stones 363 00:15:59,708 --> 00:16:01,167 that sits up on the mesa. 364 00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:04,333 According to Navajo historian Jon Dover, 365 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:07,167 ancient Indigenous people created the feature 366 00:16:07,292 --> 00:16:10,518 to represent a portal on Skinwalker Ranch. 367 00:16:10,542 --> 00:16:11,292 Whoa. 368 00:16:11,417 --> 00:16:12,292 - Okay. - In the sky. 369 00:16:12,417 --> 00:16:13,417 - Right there. - Yes. 370 00:16:13,458 --> 00:16:15,750 - Weird. - Yes. 371 00:16:15,875 --> 00:16:19,958 Well, what Pete's scanner detected just blew us away. 372 00:16:20,083 --> 00:16:23,333 - Look at this structure. - That's nuts. 373 00:16:23,458 --> 00:16:25,333 Well, just think about what it would mean 374 00:16:25,458 --> 00:16:28,000 if we saw the same kind of anomaly 375 00:16:28,125 --> 00:16:30,583 with two completely different technologies. 376 00:16:30,708 --> 00:16:31,792 Yeah, yeah. 377 00:16:31,917 --> 00:16:36,250 Well, let's go ahead and, commence the experiment. 378 00:16:36,375 --> 00:16:39,208 - What all goes? Everything? - Everything. 379 00:16:39,375 --> 00:16:41,417 It's generally true, in science, that we place 380 00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:44,000 the highest confidence in results that repeat themselves. 381 00:16:44,125 --> 00:16:47,917 So, as we survey just over the east field here 382 00:16:48,042 --> 00:16:50,184 and in the vicinity of the triangle... 383 00:16:50,208 --> 00:16:51,375 - Thank you. - You bet. 384 00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:53,059 We want to understand 385 00:16:53,083 --> 00:16:55,917 whether we're dealing with a persistent effect 386 00:16:56,042 --> 00:16:59,458 in those two regions of the ranch because we have no idea. 387 00:16:59,583 --> 00:17:02,000 All right, so let's figure out what hard point we want 388 00:17:02,125 --> 00:17:03,917 - to snap to. - Okay, let's go around. 389 00:17:04,042 --> 00:17:06,184 While Pete scans with his LIDAR device 390 00:17:06,208 --> 00:17:07,875 out the open door of the helicopter, 391 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,417 I'll be right beside him watching the monitor 392 00:17:10,542 --> 00:17:13,667 to see if the LIDAR picks up any structure or objects. 393 00:17:13,792 --> 00:17:17,292 Let me have that rocket motor and that igniter. 394 00:17:17,417 --> 00:17:19,684 Meanwhile, Dragon, Kaleb and Thomas 395 00:17:19,708 --> 00:17:22,083 will be on the ready to launch rockets. 396 00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:25,351 They'll also be broadcasting the 1.6 gigahertz 397 00:17:25,375 --> 00:17:28,708 communication signal that we've recorded in the past... 398 00:17:28,875 --> 00:17:31,637 All right, well, we're all set up in here. 399 00:17:31,661 --> 00:17:32,167 Great. 400 00:17:32,292 --> 00:17:34,559 Which Erik and Brandon will be monitoring 401 00:17:34,583 --> 00:17:36,851 on his systems during the experiment. 402 00:17:36,875 --> 00:17:40,000 Both of these tools have been very effective in stimulating 403 00:17:40,125 --> 00:17:42,500 bizarre activity on the ranch in the past, 404 00:17:42,667 --> 00:17:45,042 so, hopefully, by the end of today, 405 00:17:45,167 --> 00:17:47,500 we'll get some answers about these locations. 406 00:17:47,667 --> 00:17:51,184 Hey, guys, we're ready to go in the chopper. 407 00:17:51,208 --> 00:17:54,333 All right, copy that. You guys be careful up there. 408 00:17:54,458 --> 00:17:55,726 We don't want to lose Pete. 409 00:17:55,750 --> 00:17:58,750 We've got him tied in with four different ways. 410 00:17:58,875 --> 00:18:00,542 Everything's checked. 411 00:18:00,667 --> 00:18:03,351 This year, the first experiment we're gonna try 412 00:18:03,375 --> 00:18:06,167 involves having one our experts hanging out of a helicopter. 413 00:18:06,292 --> 00:18:07,726 I don't know what's gonna happen, 414 00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:10,417 but this is a pretty dangerous experiment, 415 00:18:10,542 --> 00:18:12,625 and I hope it yields some results. 416 00:18:12,750 --> 00:18:14,375 Here we go. Hang on, Pete. 417 00:18:23,875 --> 00:18:26,018 First, go hit the east field, okay? 418 00:18:26,042 --> 00:18:27,167 All right. 419 00:18:27,292 --> 00:18:29,667 Now, we're tracking. 420 00:18:29,792 --> 00:18:33,542 Hopefully, we'll be able to capture something interesting. 421 00:18:33,708 --> 00:18:35,292 Yeah, every time Pete's been out here, 422 00:18:35,417 --> 00:18:36,684 something interesting has happened. 423 00:18:36,708 --> 00:18:38,250 Well, this will be good. 424 00:18:38,375 --> 00:18:42,625 Activity is unpredictable at Skinwalker Ranch. 425 00:18:42,750 --> 00:18:46,167 But we've found that there are certain methods 426 00:18:46,292 --> 00:18:49,583 that you can utilize in order to stimulate response. 427 00:18:49,708 --> 00:18:54,042 This very aggressive experiment is an important part 428 00:18:54,167 --> 00:18:56,208 of this stage of the investigation and we are 429 00:18:56,333 --> 00:18:58,542 committed to getting the answers. 430 00:19:00,958 --> 00:19:03,542 Bryant, I just turned it on. 431 00:19:03,708 --> 00:19:07,559 Will you radio Erik and see if they're seeing it? 432 00:19:07,583 --> 00:19:14,042 Erik, Thomas has just turned on the 1.6. 433 00:19:14,208 --> 00:19:16,333 Just confirming if you can see that signal or not. 434 00:19:16,458 --> 00:19:18,000 Yeah, I've got good signal. 435 00:19:18,167 --> 00:19:20,059 Terrific. 436 00:19:20,083 --> 00:19:23,083 Well, we're broadcasting the 1.6, so 437 00:19:23,208 --> 00:19:26,792 we'll see if that causes any reaction. 438 00:19:28,792 --> 00:19:30,559 All right, the east field. 439 00:19:30,583 --> 00:19:33,292 We should be about over it right in here. 440 00:19:33,417 --> 00:19:34,750 Okay. 441 00:19:34,875 --> 00:19:36,917 - All right, I'm gonna start scanning. - Yup. 442 00:19:37,042 --> 00:19:38,750 - All right. - Okay. 443 00:19:40,083 --> 00:19:42,250 All right, nice and easy, Cameron. 444 00:19:42,375 --> 00:19:44,667 All right, we're going. 445 00:19:44,792 --> 00:19:47,458 I see the ground. 446 00:19:54,583 --> 00:19:59,059 We're getting buffeted from the wind a little bit. 447 00:19:59,083 --> 00:20:03,333 But there's no freaking wind. 448 00:20:03,458 --> 00:20:06,250 - Whoa! Whoa! - Whoa! 449 00:20:06,375 --> 00:20:07,625 We're getting our asses kicked. 450 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:14,708 Feel that, that's just crazy. 451 00:20:16,625 --> 00:20:19,500 - Wow! We're getting something. - What?! 452 00:20:19,625 --> 00:20:23,292 We are getting an anomaly in the air right now! 453 00:20:23,417 --> 00:20:25,833 - Right there. - You're kidding! 454 00:20:25,958 --> 00:20:27,750 No, I am not kidding. 455 00:20:34,333 --> 00:20:36,184 We're getting a significant anomaly 456 00:20:36,208 --> 00:20:38,333 in the air right now. 457 00:20:38,458 --> 00:20:41,250 It was clearly an anomaly floating in the sky. 458 00:20:41,375 --> 00:20:42,375 I've been following them. 459 00:20:42,500 --> 00:20:43,893 I know, I don't see anything either. 460 00:20:43,917 --> 00:20:47,226 The helicopter is getting buffeted out of the way 461 00:20:47,250 --> 00:20:49,500 like there's a vortex or something here. 462 00:20:51,708 --> 00:20:54,059 This is crazy. 463 00:20:54,083 --> 00:20:57,042 Right where we obtained photogrammetry images 464 00:20:57,208 --> 00:20:59,208 of a mysterious column-shaped anomaly 465 00:20:59,375 --> 00:21:01,417 above the east field one year ago... 466 00:21:02,667 --> 00:21:05,000 There are some very interesting artifacts showing up. 467 00:21:05,125 --> 00:21:06,875 Whoa. 468 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,184 Pete Kelsey's LIDAR scanner, which emits infrared light, 469 00:21:10,208 --> 00:21:14,559 detected an image of something about 300 feet up in the air. 470 00:21:14,583 --> 00:21:17,559 And what was even crazier was that some kind 471 00:21:17,583 --> 00:21:20,667 of invisible force was literally pushing. 472 00:21:20,792 --> 00:21:23,583 Brandon's helicopter around in midair. 473 00:21:25,208 --> 00:21:27,184 It looks like it's being pushed around 474 00:21:27,208 --> 00:21:29,583 from the ground right now. 475 00:21:30,542 --> 00:21:32,792 They're getting pushed around. 476 00:21:32,917 --> 00:21:35,333 You can see the helicopter, like, rocking. 477 00:21:35,458 --> 00:21:38,125 And I'm picking up nothing just visually. 478 00:21:38,250 --> 00:21:39,708 Wow! 479 00:21:44,458 --> 00:21:45,498 What the hell is going on? 480 00:21:45,542 --> 00:21:47,417 - You see how he's moving? - Yeah. 481 00:21:48,542 --> 00:21:51,000 My gosh, you can see. Look at that. 482 00:21:54,542 --> 00:21:56,208 The helicopter definitely looks like 483 00:21:56,333 --> 00:21:57,750 it's rocking around down here. 484 00:22:01,833 --> 00:22:03,542 The outside wind speeds 485 00:22:03,667 --> 00:22:05,917 that registered on the helicopter's instruments 486 00:22:06,042 --> 00:22:07,518 were totally insignificant. 487 00:22:07,542 --> 00:22:10,542 It was just this strange, invisible force 488 00:22:10,667 --> 00:22:13,726 that we couldn't see pushing us around. 489 00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:16,375 I have no scientific explanation for it. 490 00:22:16,542 --> 00:22:18,583 I just know it's where we saw 491 00:22:18,708 --> 00:22:21,726 a column-shaped anomaly above the stone circle last year 492 00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:24,042 and now an object of some kind 493 00:22:24,208 --> 00:22:25,726 on the LIDAR readout. 494 00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:27,625 I think we're good. We've got a really nice 495 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:29,250 3D map of the entire area. 496 00:22:29,375 --> 00:22:31,167 - Cameron, I think we're good. - Okay. 497 00:22:31,292 --> 00:22:33,851 I say we fly right by the triangle. 498 00:22:33,875 --> 00:22:35,042 Yep. 499 00:22:49,917 --> 00:22:51,851 I couldn't believe what had happened to us 500 00:22:51,875 --> 00:22:54,375 over the east field and the preliminary data 501 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:56,000 we got on Pete's LIDAR scanner. 502 00:22:56,167 --> 00:22:57,833 It still needed to be processed, 503 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,208 but based on our experiences so far, 504 00:23:00,333 --> 00:23:01,684 we were really anxious 505 00:23:01,708 --> 00:23:04,208 about what we might find above the triangle. 506 00:23:04,375 --> 00:23:06,000 I mean, we're at the triangle right now. 507 00:23:06,125 --> 00:23:09,000 All right, so give me about ten seconds 508 00:23:09,167 --> 00:23:11,333 and we'll be scanning. 509 00:23:11,458 --> 00:23:13,250 It's running, it says. 510 00:23:13,375 --> 00:23:16,042 Are you seeing data then? 511 00:23:16,167 --> 00:23:17,250 Nothing yet. 512 00:23:17,375 --> 00:23:21,375 Holy cow, there's something right outside the aircraft. 513 00:23:21,542 --> 00:23:23,542 - You're kidding! - No, I am not kidding. 514 00:23:23,708 --> 00:23:24,851 You were at 300 feet 515 00:23:24,875 --> 00:23:27,042 and were detecting an object in the air. 516 00:23:27,167 --> 00:23:28,417 What?! 517 00:23:31,250 --> 00:23:32,333 Copy you, Cameron. 518 00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:33,917 You've got to be kidding me. 519 00:23:34,042 --> 00:23:37,208 We are about 300 feet above ground level. 520 00:23:37,375 --> 00:23:38,684 You can see the green is the ground 521 00:23:38,708 --> 00:23:39,792 and the red is the thing. 522 00:23:39,917 --> 00:23:42,208 - This is unbelievable. - Unbelievable. 523 00:23:42,375 --> 00:23:44,393 In the past, all the phenomena we've detected 524 00:23:44,417 --> 00:23:48,250 above the triangle has been nearly a mile up in the air. 525 00:23:48,375 --> 00:23:49,958 But as soon as Pete started scanning 526 00:23:50,083 --> 00:23:52,917 with the LIDAR, he detected something strange 527 00:23:53,042 --> 00:23:56,000 beginning at an altitude of just about 300 feet. 528 00:23:56,125 --> 00:23:58,500 We had never seen anything at the triangle 529 00:23:58,625 --> 00:24:00,250 that close to the ground before. 530 00:24:00,375 --> 00:24:02,226 They're climbing. 531 00:24:02,250 --> 00:24:06,250 I don't know why, but I feel really nervous about this. 532 00:24:17,125 --> 00:24:20,125 - It froze up, Pete. - It's checking something. 533 00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:21,917 Nah, it's scanning. 534 00:24:22,042 --> 00:24:24,184 Yeah, well, it's telling me that it's checking. 535 00:24:24,208 --> 00:24:25,559 It's not writing any more data. 536 00:24:25,583 --> 00:24:27,167 All right, stand by. 537 00:24:34,917 --> 00:24:38,184 No, it says it's disconnected, which is odd. 538 00:24:38,208 --> 00:24:42,059 Disconnected? That doesn't make any sense. 539 00:24:42,083 --> 00:24:43,667 Wow, that's weird. 540 00:24:43,792 --> 00:24:46,792 Hey, well, your GPS is off from your pressure. 541 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,667 We're-we're getting discrepancies, right now. 542 00:24:59,750 --> 00:25:01,630 Command Center, how you doing? This is Cameron. 543 00:25:03,583 --> 00:25:05,226 So the ground went away. 544 00:25:05,250 --> 00:25:07,726 It was green and now the ground's turned red. 545 00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:12,083 And, the anomaly above it is-is still red. 546 00:25:12,208 --> 00:25:13,893 I think we need to set down and reset this thing. 547 00:25:13,917 --> 00:25:14,917 Okay. 548 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,958 All right, I'm going to stop scanning. 549 00:25:23,542 --> 00:25:25,042 Whoa. 550 00:25:26,375 --> 00:25:28,000 My goodness. 551 00:25:28,125 --> 00:25:29,125 Whoa. 552 00:25:42,750 --> 00:25:44,917 Why'd they land in the field? 553 00:25:46,125 --> 00:25:47,726 Radio them. 554 00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:49,958 Travis, do you copy? 555 00:25:56,667 --> 00:26:00,167 Hey, Erik, do you copy inside the Command Center? 556 00:26:00,292 --> 00:26:01,958 Yes, I do. What's up? 557 00:26:02,083 --> 00:26:03,583 I want to reach out to Cameron. 558 00:26:03,708 --> 00:26:05,228 They ended up landing out in the field 559 00:26:05,292 --> 00:26:07,226 for some odd reason. 560 00:26:07,250 --> 00:26:08,583 In the field? 561 00:26:24,208 --> 00:26:26,393 We're reset, we're about to relaunch 562 00:26:26,417 --> 00:26:27,417 and go do it again. 563 00:26:27,458 --> 00:26:29,042 Copy that. 564 00:26:29,167 --> 00:26:31,625 We'll keep our eyes on you as well. 565 00:26:46,167 --> 00:26:47,167 Yep. 566 00:26:48,958 --> 00:26:50,417 Understood. 567 00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:54,000 After we finished our LIDAR scan above the east field, 568 00:26:54,125 --> 00:26:57,167 we were eager to head southwest to the triangle. 569 00:26:59,042 --> 00:27:02,167 - All right, I'm going to start scanning. - Yep. 570 00:27:02,292 --> 00:27:03,958 Just let me know when you've got data. 571 00:27:04,083 --> 00:27:05,250 We're getting data right now, 572 00:27:05,375 --> 00:27:08,750 there is something right outside the aircraft. 573 00:27:11,542 --> 00:27:13,625 As soon as we approached the triangle, 574 00:27:13,750 --> 00:27:16,292 we started detecting some kind of anomaly again 575 00:27:16,417 --> 00:27:18,500 right around 300 feet high. 576 00:27:18,625 --> 00:27:19,750 I was getting really anxious 577 00:27:19,875 --> 00:27:22,083 about what was going to happen next. 578 00:27:24,167 --> 00:27:26,792 Just start spiraling up, Cameron. 579 00:27:37,583 --> 00:27:39,208 Copy you, Cameron. 580 00:27:51,583 --> 00:27:53,375 - Holy cow! - What, what, what? 581 00:27:53,542 --> 00:27:54,833 Look at that. 582 00:27:56,375 --> 00:27:57,893 - You see it? - Yes. 583 00:27:57,917 --> 00:27:59,375 We've got an anomaly, 584 00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:02,958 a clear anomaly right beside us. 585 00:28:04,208 --> 00:28:07,018 We've had eyes on it with three sets of binoculars 586 00:28:07,042 --> 00:28:08,708 and we've seen nothing. 587 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,708 We at 5,000 feet? 588 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,250 We're almost there. 589 00:28:22,792 --> 00:28:24,250 Tell them to launch. 590 00:28:26,375 --> 00:28:28,893 Right as we reached the mile-high zone, 591 00:28:28,917 --> 00:28:31,417 this huge mass showed up on the LIDAR, 592 00:28:31,542 --> 00:28:34,000 and with the 1.6 gigahertz signal being broadcast, 593 00:28:34,167 --> 00:28:36,226 it was time to launch a rocket 594 00:28:36,250 --> 00:28:38,125 and poke this nest as hard as we could. 595 00:28:39,375 --> 00:28:42,750 Three, two, one! 596 00:28:45,208 --> 00:28:46,292 There it goes! 597 00:29:00,208 --> 00:29:01,542 Yeah. 598 00:29:11,542 --> 00:29:14,167 Which is what we've seen before, Cameron. 599 00:29:14,333 --> 00:29:15,792 Right here. 600 00:29:41,542 --> 00:29:42,583 Wow. 601 00:29:47,042 --> 00:29:49,208 - Whoa! Whoa! - Whoa! 602 00:29:52,167 --> 00:29:53,333 There you go. 603 00:29:59,917 --> 00:30:01,208 Wow. 604 00:30:27,625 --> 00:30:29,105 Yeah, we got a downdraft right there. 605 00:30:29,167 --> 00:30:30,833 - A little ass kick there. - Yeah, yeah. 606 00:30:30,958 --> 00:30:32,018 As we approached the mile-high zone 607 00:30:32,042 --> 00:30:33,375 above the triangle, 608 00:30:33,542 --> 00:30:37,667 where we saw a UAP literally disappear one year ago, 609 00:30:37,792 --> 00:30:39,833 really strange winds started encircling 610 00:30:39,958 --> 00:30:41,583 the helicopter like a vortex. 611 00:30:41,708 --> 00:30:43,042 It really made me nervous 612 00:30:43,208 --> 00:30:45,792 about what the hell we were flying into. 613 00:30:45,917 --> 00:30:47,250 Yeah, I think it's time to abort. 614 00:30:51,083 --> 00:30:54,208 Copy you, Cameron. We will clear the helipad. 615 00:30:54,375 --> 00:30:57,042 It's exciting to see that we're getting 616 00:30:57,167 --> 00:30:58,447 interesting returns in real time 617 00:30:58,542 --> 00:31:02,059 over the east field and over the triangle. 618 00:31:02,083 --> 00:31:03,559 - Pretty wild. - Holy crap. 619 00:31:03,583 --> 00:31:06,875 I really want to know are these real features that we're seeing? 620 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,625 Shake my hand. 621 00:31:08,750 --> 00:31:10,018 Heck yeah. 622 00:31:10,042 --> 00:31:12,125 Wow, you guys. 623 00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:14,875 Y'all are not going to believe this. 624 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,059 Well, Pete's face has me thinking 625 00:31:17,083 --> 00:31:19,000 you guys caught something amazing. 626 00:31:19,125 --> 00:31:20,000 What did you see? 627 00:31:20,125 --> 00:31:21,125 There is an anomaly 628 00:31:21,250 --> 00:31:23,208 that this LIDAR picked up in midair! 629 00:31:23,375 --> 00:31:26,083 300 or 400 feet above the ground. 630 00:31:26,208 --> 00:31:28,750 It's impossible. It's impossible. 631 00:31:28,875 --> 00:31:30,208 It remained there, too. 632 00:31:30,375 --> 00:31:32,583 It wasn't a quick blip. As we circled 633 00:31:32,708 --> 00:31:34,167 and made orbits, it-it remained. 634 00:31:34,292 --> 00:31:36,518 Let's process the data as soon as possible. 635 00:31:36,542 --> 00:31:39,351 Cameron and I want a full report at earliest convenience. 636 00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:41,042 Well, we got to go crunch some data. 637 00:31:41,167 --> 00:31:42,208 - Yes, we do. - Okay. 638 00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:45,208 - Yeah, let's go. - Let's get on that data! 639 00:31:45,375 --> 00:31:46,851 - Yeah. - I want to take this harness off! 640 00:31:46,875 --> 00:31:48,333 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 641 00:31:53,375 --> 00:31:56,059 Well, guys, we've got Brandon and Cameron and Pete 642 00:31:56,083 --> 00:31:57,163 on the line for video call. 643 00:31:57,208 --> 00:31:58,375 Yeah. 644 00:31:58,542 --> 00:31:59,518 Hey, Brandon. 645 00:31:59,542 --> 00:32:00,667 Hey, greetings. 646 00:32:00,792 --> 00:32:02,250 It's good to be with you. 647 00:32:02,375 --> 00:32:04,250 Pete Kelsey spent two days processing 648 00:32:04,375 --> 00:32:06,559 all the LIDAR data we collected 649 00:32:06,583 --> 00:32:08,417 above the east field and the triangle, 650 00:32:08,542 --> 00:32:10,708 so we couldn't wait to review it with him and Brandon. 651 00:32:10,833 --> 00:32:14,292 We needed to figure out what we'd encountered up there 652 00:32:14,417 --> 00:32:15,976 that had affected the helicopter's flight 653 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,083 and controls so dramatically. 654 00:32:18,208 --> 00:32:21,833 This is the data from the helicopter flight. 655 00:32:22,542 --> 00:32:25,125 So here we are over the east field. 656 00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:29,500 What you're seeing, the icon of course is us. 657 00:32:29,625 --> 00:32:32,917 The magenta line is our trajectory, 658 00:32:33,042 --> 00:32:35,500 that is the direction we're flying. 659 00:32:35,625 --> 00:32:38,917 And we can see that the data is following the aircraft. 660 00:32:39,042 --> 00:32:42,250 Something about it that was... right there it did... 661 00:32:42,375 --> 00:32:44,250 See how it's doing these zigzag jumps? 662 00:32:44,375 --> 00:32:46,000 Something moved the helicopter. 663 00:32:46,167 --> 00:32:47,333 It-it was unbelievable. 664 00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:50,518 I mean, we were all like, "Whoa! What was that?!" 665 00:32:50,542 --> 00:32:53,018 It wasn't just left and right oscillations, 666 00:32:53,042 --> 00:32:54,393 it was forward and aft, 667 00:32:54,417 --> 00:32:56,875 left and right all almost simultaneous. 668 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,559 It was as if you had two magnets 669 00:32:59,583 --> 00:33:01,559 next to each other, repelling each other. 670 00:33:01,583 --> 00:33:03,726 Whatever it was, it was trying to push us off. 671 00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:05,667 You know, I think that has to mean something. 672 00:33:05,792 --> 00:33:07,018 That's right. 673 00:33:07,042 --> 00:33:09,083 Now I'll call your attention to... 674 00:33:09,208 --> 00:33:13,417 We have anomalous data in the same general area. 675 00:33:15,208 --> 00:33:17,833 So, here we are over the east field. 676 00:33:17,958 --> 00:33:19,375 Wow. 677 00:33:19,542 --> 00:33:21,143 This is right where I had the interference 678 00:33:21,167 --> 00:33:23,559 - with the helicopter as well, isn't it? - Yes. 679 00:33:23,583 --> 00:33:26,833 And-and there's where I said you know what? 680 00:33:26,958 --> 00:33:28,750 We've got an anomaly in the spot again. 681 00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:32,500 - This red feature. - That red feature floating in midair. 682 00:33:32,625 --> 00:33:34,833 Above... And there's no trail to it. 683 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,750 Be advised, I should disclose some issues 684 00:33:37,875 --> 00:33:39,667 with this first scan. 685 00:33:39,792 --> 00:33:43,333 This is the incredibly frustrating part. 686 00:33:43,458 --> 00:33:45,125 I've spoken with the vendor, 687 00:33:45,250 --> 00:33:47,667 I mean, we've gone through it at length. 688 00:33:47,792 --> 00:33:51,542 The vendor looked at this and went, "Nah, you're ghosting." 689 00:33:51,667 --> 00:33:55,000 And ghosting is just 690 00:33:55,167 --> 00:33:59,351 the scanner picking up probably my feet, the skid. 691 00:33:59,375 --> 00:34:01,875 Well, I would just expect consistency. 692 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:03,351 You know, if you're picking up returns 693 00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:04,975 from the blades above or the skid below, 694 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,143 then I would expect to see that through the whole thing, 695 00:34:07,167 --> 00:34:10,474 but the fact that you're only seeing it over one point... 696 00:34:10,498 --> 00:34:10,893 Yeah. 697 00:34:10,917 --> 00:34:16,208 What is it about this ranch that continues to throw us off? 698 00:34:17,875 --> 00:34:20,458 It was really sobering to all of us to hear from Pete Kelsey 699 00:34:20,583 --> 00:34:23,184 that the LIDAR data might not have been accurate. 700 00:34:23,208 --> 00:34:25,458 But there were certain things about it 701 00:34:25,583 --> 00:34:27,625 that just couldn't be explained away. 702 00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:30,417 Pete, go forward, let me... I'll tell you when to stop. 703 00:34:30,542 --> 00:34:32,750 Go forward about... Right there, right there. Stop. 704 00:34:32,875 --> 00:34:34,167 Now, when you look at that, 705 00:34:34,292 --> 00:34:37,083 this is right dead center over 706 00:34:37,208 --> 00:34:38,708 where the column was there 707 00:34:38,833 --> 00:34:40,917 in your photogrammetry data. 708 00:34:41,042 --> 00:34:44,917 And-and if you look, there's no pathway to it, 709 00:34:45,042 --> 00:34:50,018 it's not anomalous features until that spot. 710 00:34:50,042 --> 00:34:51,042 Wow. 711 00:34:51,167 --> 00:34:54,184 In the exact same spot where we identified 712 00:34:54,208 --> 00:34:56,559 the column-like anomaly one year ago, 713 00:34:56,583 --> 00:34:59,750 we now have a second kind of scanning technology 714 00:34:59,875 --> 00:35:03,018 that seems to be detecting something strange again. 715 00:35:03,042 --> 00:35:05,875 If you can back up two frames, Pete. 716 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,518 Stop! Perfect. Look at that. 717 00:35:09,542 --> 00:35:11,417 I-I'm gonna go to the screen. 718 00:35:12,875 --> 00:35:15,000 So, come on, guys, we've got 719 00:35:15,167 --> 00:35:16,893 some kind of wing-like features. 720 00:35:16,917 --> 00:35:18,018 I mean, you look at that, 721 00:35:18,042 --> 00:35:20,333 there's three-dimensional detail here. 722 00:35:20,458 --> 00:35:22,184 There was nothing there. 723 00:35:22,208 --> 00:35:23,958 We flew a helicopter and we wouldn't fly 724 00:35:24,083 --> 00:35:25,443 that close to an object like that. 725 00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:27,018 This distance right here from there to there 726 00:35:27,042 --> 00:35:28,250 is probably ten meters. 727 00:35:28,375 --> 00:35:31,393 Look at it. It tends to have a shape to it. 728 00:35:31,417 --> 00:35:32,393 My gosh. 729 00:35:32,417 --> 00:35:33,833 That's actually pretty distinct. 730 00:35:33,958 --> 00:35:36,875 That is compelling. 731 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,583 Now, if we were standing 732 00:35:38,708 --> 00:35:41,917 in the road of the driveway looking north, 733 00:35:42,042 --> 00:35:43,833 and we took Pete's photogrammetry data 734 00:35:43,958 --> 00:35:45,018 and overlaid it on this image, 735 00:35:45,042 --> 00:35:49,059 you would see the pillar come up just like this. 736 00:35:49,083 --> 00:35:51,292 Right where this spot is. 737 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Wow. 738 00:35:58,167 --> 00:35:59,250 In the same spot 739 00:35:59,375 --> 00:36:01,351 where we detected a column-shaped anomaly last year, 740 00:36:01,375 --> 00:36:02,667 our LIDAR experiment 741 00:36:02,792 --> 00:36:06,333 may have also identified something strange. 742 00:36:07,250 --> 00:36:08,833 And this is right near a location 743 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,250 on top of the mesa where ancient Indigenous people 744 00:36:12,375 --> 00:36:15,208 built a stone monument that's meant to represent 745 00:36:15,333 --> 00:36:17,583 a portal on Skinwalker Ranch. 746 00:36:17,708 --> 00:36:19,417 What could that be? 747 00:36:19,542 --> 00:36:20,833 We don't know what it is, 748 00:36:20,958 --> 00:36:23,726 but there's something that was anomalous about that spot, 749 00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:27,226 and we got it on multiple sensors now, at least two. 750 00:36:27,250 --> 00:36:29,167 I'm sitting here just stunned 751 00:36:29,333 --> 00:36:31,417 because, I mean, no matter what, 752 00:36:31,542 --> 00:36:34,851 we're dealing with something that is a mystery. 753 00:36:34,875 --> 00:36:37,250 And that it's only over the east field? 754 00:36:37,375 --> 00:36:39,708 It happened at the triangle, too. 755 00:36:39,875 --> 00:36:42,375 All right, guys, what I'm going to bring up now 756 00:36:42,542 --> 00:36:44,417 - is the data at the triangle. - Yep. 757 00:36:44,542 --> 00:36:48,667 There is what appears to be ghosting 758 00:36:48,792 --> 00:36:52,208 along the trajectory that we actually flew. 759 00:36:52,333 --> 00:36:54,583 But why so many in the one spot 760 00:36:54,708 --> 00:36:57,542 as we're, circling around the triangle? 761 00:36:57,708 --> 00:37:00,750 Well, again, I would expect if you're seeing, 762 00:37:00,875 --> 00:37:04,208 returns from either the-the blades above 763 00:37:04,375 --> 00:37:06,000 or the-the skid below, 764 00:37:06,167 --> 00:37:08,292 that it would be consistent through the whole flight. 765 00:37:08,417 --> 00:37:10,726 But that's the weird part. Why is it not? 766 00:37:10,750 --> 00:37:15,167 So, I-I'm with you, I mean, there's no trajectory line 767 00:37:15,292 --> 00:37:17,292 where this first showed up. You see that? 768 00:37:17,417 --> 00:37:19,333 - Yep. - To cut to the chase, 769 00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:23,833 I don't think this is 100% conclusive in either direction. 770 00:37:23,958 --> 00:37:25,333 I-I agree with that. 771 00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:28,333 Yeah, it is so frustrating, 772 00:37:28,458 --> 00:37:30,583 because it seems like we're so close 773 00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:34,083 to understanding what we are dealing with. 774 00:37:34,208 --> 00:37:35,559 We're seeing these things appearing 775 00:37:35,583 --> 00:37:38,125 that have no conventional explanation. 776 00:37:38,250 --> 00:37:41,184 It-It's so damn elusive. 777 00:37:41,208 --> 00:37:43,583 I... If there's any way 778 00:37:43,708 --> 00:37:47,292 we can execute on another experiment 779 00:37:47,417 --> 00:37:51,708 in rapid succession to this, to seize this moment, 780 00:37:51,875 --> 00:37:55,167 and get some answers, I say go for it. 781 00:37:55,333 --> 00:37:58,893 Well, first and foremost, Pete, and Cameron, 782 00:37:58,917 --> 00:38:01,167 the two of you may recall, but if I recall, 783 00:38:01,292 --> 00:38:03,333 I think we were about 784 00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:06,059 300, 400 feet or something like that, right? 785 00:38:06,083 --> 00:38:07,500 Seems about right. 786 00:38:07,625 --> 00:38:08,792 There's something new here. 787 00:38:08,917 --> 00:38:11,684 You know, some of the interesting returns 788 00:38:11,708 --> 00:38:13,351 were happening at much lower altitudes 789 00:38:13,375 --> 00:38:16,167 than, we've... 790 00:38:16,292 --> 00:38:18,917 - A thousand feet or more lower. - Right. 791 00:38:19,042 --> 00:38:21,333 During previous experiments at the triangle, 792 00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:23,333 it seemed that different phenomena 793 00:38:23,458 --> 00:38:25,375 occurred about 5,000 feet high. 794 00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:27,750 But now, if the LIDAR data is correct, 795 00:38:27,875 --> 00:38:30,083 it appears that something is going on between 796 00:38:30,208 --> 00:38:32,000 300 feet and that zone. 797 00:38:32,125 --> 00:38:33,500 Look, you see that? 798 00:38:33,625 --> 00:38:35,226 I do, did you see it bend? 799 00:38:35,250 --> 00:38:36,875 Dude, did you see that? 800 00:38:37,042 --> 00:38:40,893 Last year, we were stunned to see lasers projected 801 00:38:40,917 --> 00:38:43,875 up through the triangle mysteriously bend. 802 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,458 There it goes. 803 00:38:45,958 --> 00:38:48,333 And rockets that we launched up there 804 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:50,333 get completely deflected off target 805 00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:52,125 by something we couldn't see. 806 00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:55,167 And those things did happen at various altitudes. 807 00:38:55,333 --> 00:38:56,833 What was that bend all about? 808 00:38:56,958 --> 00:38:59,083 So, could that mean that the anomalous zone 809 00:38:59,208 --> 00:39:00,625 is shifting along a vertical plane 810 00:39:00,750 --> 00:39:03,417 between 300 and 5,000 feet? 811 00:39:03,542 --> 00:39:06,750 Or does it mean that it may cover the entire space? 812 00:39:06,875 --> 00:39:10,083 At this point, we don't know if we can trust the LIDAR data, 813 00:39:10,208 --> 00:39:13,000 so we're gonna have to find another way to verify 814 00:39:13,125 --> 00:39:16,559 what we found at both the triangle and the east field. 815 00:39:16,583 --> 00:39:20,393 We really need to look over the triangle area at, 816 00:39:20,417 --> 00:39:22,250 you know, 400 feet or so. 817 00:39:22,375 --> 00:39:24,542 So how do you envision that being done? 818 00:39:24,708 --> 00:39:29,059 You know, you could get a-a swarm of drones. 819 00:39:29,083 --> 00:39:31,667 - Because they all fly on GPS coordinates. - I like it. 820 00:39:31,792 --> 00:39:33,167 And fly them in a grid pattern, 821 00:39:33,292 --> 00:39:34,851 and fly them around out there and see what happens. 822 00:39:34,875 --> 00:39:37,393 And, you know, the way we've seen GPS messed up, 823 00:39:37,417 --> 00:39:38,833 who knows what it would do? 824 00:39:38,958 --> 00:39:40,500 You know, these people probably go... 825 00:39:40,625 --> 00:39:42,268 People that do these drone swarms for like light shows 826 00:39:42,292 --> 00:39:44,708 and stuff, they are precise. 827 00:39:44,875 --> 00:39:47,184 And the patterns do all these geometric shapes. 828 00:39:47,208 --> 00:39:48,851 You get them out here and fly them over the triangle 829 00:39:48,875 --> 00:39:50,893 where the GPS messes up, there's no telling what you would see. 830 00:39:50,917 --> 00:39:52,351 No pumping the brakes at this point. 831 00:39:52,375 --> 00:39:54,167 Let's just go full steam ahead. 832 00:39:54,292 --> 00:39:56,000 - Well, let's do it. - Let's move forward. 833 00:39:56,125 --> 00:39:57,667 Yeah, let's go. 834 00:39:58,833 --> 00:40:01,000 There's something odd going on at this ranch. 835 00:40:01,167 --> 00:40:03,875 I want to know the answer to so many things. 836 00:40:04,042 --> 00:40:06,625 Just what in the world is going on here? 837 00:40:07,583 --> 00:40:09,417 Every time we begin this work, 838 00:40:09,542 --> 00:40:11,500 I never know what to expect. 839 00:40:11,625 --> 00:40:15,583 And I've been surprised if not shocked by the outcome 840 00:40:15,708 --> 00:40:18,500 of each of our aggressive experiments. 841 00:40:18,625 --> 00:40:20,059 This year, we have some things in mind 842 00:40:20,083 --> 00:40:21,833 that might also be considered aggressive, 843 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,000 but also visionary 844 00:40:23,042 --> 00:40:25,583 and quite different from what we've done before. 845 00:40:26,708 --> 00:40:28,250 Coming into this investigation, 846 00:40:28,375 --> 00:40:30,458 we had such little information. 847 00:40:30,583 --> 00:40:31,792 But now it's coming to light 848 00:40:31,917 --> 00:40:34,250 that so many different government entities 849 00:40:34,375 --> 00:40:35,875 were so interested in this place, 850 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,417 it makes me feel like we're truly on to something 851 00:40:38,542 --> 00:40:40,393 and all eyes are watching. 852 00:40:40,417 --> 00:40:43,226 My hope is to find answers. 853 00:40:43,250 --> 00:40:46,000 Gain new insights, be able to understand 854 00:40:46,167 --> 00:40:49,125 the nature of what we are dealing with at the ranch. 855 00:40:49,250 --> 00:40:52,375 The deeper down the rabbit hole that we travel, 856 00:40:52,542 --> 00:40:54,958 the more complex that it appears. 857 00:40:55,083 --> 00:40:59,167 There are no easy answers at Skinwalker Ranch. 858 00:41:00,333 --> 00:41:03,351 I really don't know what to expect here at the ranch. 859 00:41:03,375 --> 00:41:04,684 Okay, we've got a light that's moving. 860 00:41:04,708 --> 00:41:05,833 There it is, right there! 861 00:41:05,958 --> 00:41:08,726 That looks like a bona fide UFO to me. 862 00:41:08,750 --> 00:41:11,375 There is something metallic in the mesa. 863 00:41:11,542 --> 00:41:12,851 Whatever this is, is as tall as the mesa. 864 00:41:12,875 --> 00:41:16,184 We should be digging, drilling right there. 865 00:41:16,208 --> 00:41:18,833 The closer that we are getting to the answers, 866 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,750 the more covert military activity. 867 00:41:20,875 --> 00:41:22,643 We have a helicopter right over the triangle! 868 00:41:22,667 --> 00:41:23,667 It just went dark! 869 00:41:23,833 --> 00:41:25,833 It was a Black Hawk helicopter. 870 00:41:25,958 --> 00:41:28,375 - Somebody's up on the ridge. - Right there! 871 00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:32,184 We seem to be poking the hornet's nest like never before. 872 00:41:32,208 --> 00:41:33,833 There's a heat source right above them. 873 00:41:33,958 --> 00:41:35,078 Do you feel like this may be 874 00:41:35,167 --> 00:41:36,917 - a dangerous area to be working in? - Very. 875 00:41:37,042 --> 00:41:38,958 The coyotes didn't kill this animal. 876 00:41:39,083 --> 00:41:42,583 Middle of the day, an orb like that showing up, that's crazy. 877 00:41:42,708 --> 00:41:44,917 This is the largest scale experiment 878 00:41:45,042 --> 00:41:46,500 that we've ever done here so far. 879 00:41:46,625 --> 00:41:49,167 - Fire! - We've got a malfunction! 880 00:41:49,292 --> 00:41:52,333 There's something in the sky above the rocket! 881 00:41:52,458 --> 00:41:53,250 We're maybe looking at the anomaly 882 00:41:53,375 --> 00:41:55,042 for the first time, guys. 883 00:41:55,208 --> 00:41:56,667 There is definitely something here 884 00:41:56,833 --> 00:41:58,000 on Skinwalker Ranch. 67650

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