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What is the history of metal and horror?

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Throughout this film, we will examine the origins

of both heavy metal and horror,

and how the two ultimately became intertwined.

Have you ever noticed how fans of metal,

more often than not,

are also fans of horror, and vice versa.

With the help of some friends,

we will dig deep into these genres

and uncover their roots and evolution.

In order to understand how this all began,

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and explore the history of horror.

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All cultures value storytelling.

Storytelling is one of our,

our major impulses as human beings.

There are also the dark side, the tales,

the warnings that we need to share,

the verboten, "We must not go there."

Even in the pictographs,

as far back as we could go, were horror stories.

As long as there has been storytelling,

people have used monsters to explain things they don't understand

and to express things they don't know how to articulate.

If the Bible is a base text for most of European civilization,

we've wanted the same kind of mix of, like, horror and gore,

as well as morally uplifting stuff ever since.

The dark side of we, what we have,

that's an internal part of us, started to externalize it.

And characters became the dark side.

It all stems from Greek classical tragedy,

and splits off into Roman melodrama,

then up through Medieval morality plays

into Elizabethan revenge tragedy,

then into Edwardian times where they write melodramas.

One of the ways in which you can talk about very real things

or very controversial things is to dress them up as monsters.

So, you get to Frankenstein,1818,

And in one sense, it's a very literal story

about a guy who stitches together

another being out of corpse parts,

and runs a huge jolt of electricity through him, and creates a monster.

The Strange Case Of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde is published in 1886,

which is five years after the Ripper murders had terrorized

not just London but the whole world.

Jack the Ripper is the archetype of all subsequent slashers.

Name me a slasher movie that doesn't draw

on some aspect of, of Jack the Ripper.

And, of course, Bram Stoker was the theater impresario who put that on stage.

[Del] Bram Stoker'sDracula,

not the first vampire story by any means.

You've had things like Varney the Vampire,

which was part of a penny-dreadful story that came out.

But Bram Stoker broke really new ground,

uh, by using old tropes.

Film then was the natural place to take over.

In silent films, and then in talkies.

That structure of how is the good guy

gonna defeat the externalization

of what the dark side in him

in a character has been realized?

We can hate that person,

who is really ourselves externalized.

That's the structure of melodrama and horror.

So much of it to me is the art direction, and that's what those films were.

You know, because for me, in those films, that's what determines

what makes them classic and what doesn't.

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Well, of course, uh, my great-grandfather being Lon Chaney Sr.

was very well renowned in the horror genre.

You can look at him, and you see his influence

all over Hollywood even to this day.

And he was the founding father of the entire genre.

In early 1930s, you have the very famous versions of Draculaand Frankenstein,

which set the look of the monsters for generations to come.

The character Dracula described by Bram Stoker in his book

was a, a horrific, ugly kind of a being.

Whereas my father brought his own interpretation.

He did his own makeup, his mode of dress,

his form of speech, his eyes.

My dad's portrayal really inspired a whole movement.

The Goth movement has got even carried over into the music world

with, for example, Bauhaus.

It was, uh, you know, a dark, sinister,

evil personification

that crossed both worlds from the films to music.

[Karina] And the same with Frankenstein and Boris Karloff.

You have the square head, you have the bolts in the neck,

the ragged coat that comes down

because his arms are clearly taken from somebody with very long arms.

It was so different

from anything the audiences had ever seen before.

It was startling. Pushed so many envelopes.

It was mesmerizing because, you know,

that film has no music whatsoever.

Only in the beginning and in the end.

And so when you really, really think about it,

it's a very, like, empty-sounding film, you know,

and I was intrigued by that.

It just sucked me in, and I,

I've just been in, in this world ever since.

I like the scene where the little girl gives him the flower,

and then he picks her up and fucking hums her. I love that.

I like the moment that he realizes that he's a fucking monster,

and that he's been reanimated and forced to live.

That's how we feel, forced to live.

And then, of course, Chaney Jr. did The Wolf Man.

And so, it was this wonderful chain of horror films

that captured the imagination of film fans around the world.

When Gramps would talk about The Wolf Man,

or roles that he would play, I always thought they were so cool

because he was such a wonderful storyteller.

People asked him, "What was your favorite role?"

And of course, I think The Wolf Man

has to come first for me personally,

It was a role meant for my grandfather to make.

My favorites by far, if anybody knows me, it's the Universal Monsters.

That's my whole life.

Dracula, Frankenstein, Invisible Man,

The Mummy, Creature, Wolf Man. I love those series.

But I loved all the classic, uh, Universal Monster movies that I saw.

I love the Creature from the Black Lagoon.

Love the giant monster movies.

They're awesome. Tarantula,that kind of thing.

I, at first, really didn't know what to make of horror movies.

I was very frightened. But in later years,

I've got to really enjoy the '50s creature movies.

My favorite of that time was probably Them!

You know, about giant ants.

So I first started getting interested in horror

because I really was engaged in those kind of creature movies

and those kind of Atomic Age fear movies.

Are Japanese monster movies considered horror films?

'Cause that's, that's, that's where my heart, true heart lies.

It's like Godzilla Vs. King Kongand stuff.

-[Woody] Yeah. -[Mike] Just all the, like, model type of scenes

and guys in lizard suits, I love that stuff.

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With the evolution of teen culture in the 1950s,

you had, for the first time, forms of entertainment

that were unique to young people.

And I don't think it was for almost 20 years or a generation after that,

the people really realized the amount of room they had

to spread out and express themselves.

One of the things that also develops in the 1950s in the UK

is the Hammer House of Horror.

Nobody has quite mastered branding like Hammer did.

Like, if you see Hammer House of Horror

on a movie, you know what you're getting.

[Tom] Curse Of Frankenstein, and Teenage Frankenstein,

and I would watch them, of course, covering my face,

but I had to see what Frankenstein looked like, you know.

My introduction to horror came through Hammer.

So that was my introduction, really, to Dracula and Frankenstein,

and then kind of worked backwards

discovering the, the classic Universal movies, um, subsequent to that.

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You can't really talk about horror

without talking about Hitchcock and Psycho.

It helps set the paradigm for our subsequent obsession

with serial killers in film.

I always loved Hitchcock.

I thought that his stuff was amazing

because, you know, there was, uh, attention

to the, uh, just the whole story line that, you know...

Like, the Bates Motel, you know, it was a creepy hotel.

Dude's mom's dead, and, you know, he cross-dresses and kills people.

That's really cool when you can have a story that's that simple.

They did such a good job in the early days of, mm,

you know, "Don't come if you have a problem with your heart,"

and these great gimmicks about that, you know,

"There will be a nurse in attendance, and..."

Of course, that sucked us in.

You know, we wanted to go see that.

They're coming to get you, Barbara.

[Karina] Towards the tail end of the '60s, you have Night Of The Living Dead,

and it's a terrifying movie.

Not only because it introduces a new type of monster,

but because it suggests that we as human beings,

at some point, we'll lose agency,

we'll lose sentience.

Jesus Christ. It's, like, right in your face, like--

Which is not typical of a black and white movie.

You just sort of, "Oh, it's black and white. It's probably going to be slow.

I've heard it's great, but we'll see."

And then it just explodes. You know,

like, "Holy fuck." You know, and it's just, it's on.

Zombies weren't very frightening

until we made Night Of The Living Dead.

You've lost a loved one,

but now that loved one's out to get you, actually devour you.

And if you get bitten by one, you can turn into one.

In a way, it combines the vampire myth and the zombie myth.

We saw a lot of horror stories,

like, during the, the war in Nam.

It was a big time for horror films,

and that all came out of that Nam period and our return from Nam.

[Rob] Blood and destruction on television had become so commonplace

that it couldn't help but make it into the films.

And I think that had a profound effect

on why horror gets so gory in the 1970s.

Because people have seen it in the real world.

[Wednesday 13] My two favorite movies are

Texas Chainsaw Massacre I and II.

I just remember this scene in Texas Chainsaw

when, when, uh,

what I believe is Kurt or whatever is going into the house,

and he just whacks him in the head as--

And he just falls. You see his legs kicking. Hits him again.

And this, the slamming of that door was just like,

"What the fuck was that?"

[Gunnar] Leatherface and his situation are kind of emblematic

of extreme elements in life,

and that may be part of his appeal.

In a way, Chainsaw Massacre is about the end of the world,

and I think that might be part of Leatherface

and Chainsaw Massacre'sappeal in heavy metal.

That it really is apocalyptic,

and Leatherface is an apocalyptic character,

and I think there, you begin to see an overlap

in the interests of a lot of heavy metal music.

[Nivek] The Exorcist. I was both kind of

terrified by it and shocked by it,

and, and, uh, moved, uh, disturbed, and compelled.

Totally wanted to see more.

Just the, the tone of it and the denigration

of the priest by Regan and all of that.

Just the way she looked, man. It was just fucked up.

You know what I mean? And her voice, it was just, it was scary.

I don't know. I think it scared everybody.

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My mom took me to see the original Jaws when I was really young,

and it scarred me for life. [chuckles]

It traumatized me. I mean, I was f-- I was fucked because I--

Even in a pool, at that-- and when I was younger, I was, like, freaking out.

"It's like a fucking pool. Like, what's gonna happen?"

But I don't know. It's just weird the way it just did that to me.

Like, that first scene when she goes out swimming in the night,

yeah, that never left me. So that was a--

That's one fear that I still have.

[Rob] The first VHS tape I ever had to have

was Dawn Of The Dead,

and I used to let it play

over and over all day long.

I must have watched it thousands of times.

It was always on,

and I don't know why that gave me such comfort,

just having Dawn Of The Dead playing constantly, but it did.

Dawn Of The Deadwas, you know, like, one of the big first splatter fest involving zombies.

I mean, now, I mean, everything is zombies.

This is-- Now we're in the zombie decade.

Uh, a lot of it has to do with the number one show on television,

Walking Dead, with my protégé, Greg Nicotero.

So that, obviously, is an influence of my stuff.

[Jeordie] Phantasm.The first one really left an impression on me.

But the part that scared me the most,

'cause I didn't, um, understand,

and when it was explained to me, it, like, kind of hit home.

The ball goes in the guy's forehead,

and it drills in, and he falls down.

I mean, he's obviously dead. But they show him that he pees.

And then I asked, like, "Why is he peeing?"

He said, "Well, you release your bowels after you die."

I was like, "Well, I'm gonna shit my pants when, when I die."

That's terrifying. That scared the bejesus out of me.

That was just more evidence of actual death.

The Omen.The first, um-- Both of them were really good,

but I like the one with Gregory Peck and Lee Remick.

I thought that the story was really well written

and very, very scary and very evil and creepy.

The Omen,that was the only one

that really made me have some, uh, nightmares

as, uh, as far as I can remember.

The, uh, connection with horror and myself

really does start with Halloween,you know,

in terms of any active interest in the genre.

I don't think they had any idea how big Myers himself would be.

That character has become pretty big.

It's a hell of a franchise, and I'm proud to be a part of it.

Michael Myers, uh, became a famous creature

because he wore a mask, and because he was completely evil.

He's really a simple character.

He doesn't have much of a backstory

to land the movies that I did.

He is just a force of evil out to get you.

The idea of an expressionless, blank, uh, human being

is really pretty devastating.

It is almost like, "What is he thinking?

What's going on in that strange person's brain

that we can't decipher, 'cause we can't look inside."

[Marky] Alien,when it came out,

you didn't see much of the monster.

But it was all the build up to it.

And then landing on that planet,

and then the Facehugger,

that, that scared the shit out of me.

The movie that affected me the most,

that I actually jumped out of my chair was Salem's Lot.

And I'm watching it, and they keep talking about Mr. Barlow.

Three quarters through the movie, you don't see Mr. Barlow,

and then all of a sudden, the entire scream is Barlow.

And it's the most evil-looking vampire of all time.

The '80s has to be possibly the greatest era of horror,

because you have a lot of great minds working within the genre.

You have amazing advances in special effects, which mean that you could--

Literally, something like The Thing,which is '82,

shows stuff that people had never even imagined.

Rob Bottin's effects were just so ahead of their time,

and still to this day, probably the best practical makeup

ever done in a movie.

One scene I remember from my childhood was

um, in The Thing,the thing is eating, um, the dogs,

and to me, I, I saw that, and it was so horrifying

as a child to see that kind of, you know, carnage.

[Corey] The Shining,man.

My God, that film is a lesson in isolation

and how maddening your, your, your mind can go

when you're just completely cut off from outside stimuli, you know,

and you're left to your own devices

in this fucking monstrous,

basically just a fucking castle, you know.

Anyone would go fucking mad.

When they first realize, you know, that he's losing...

You first see it in the film.

You know, he's, he's going, his mind is gone.

[chuckles] You know, and it's like he's sitting there.

-And then she starts thumbing-- -That's too much like real life.

Thumbing through the shit, you know. [chuckles]

"All work and no play," like, you know, the big stack, and you're like,

"Oh, it's on now, man," you know. [laughs]

'Cause that is-- it has to be one of the greatest movies

ever made from every aspect.

You know, the actors, and the casting,

and the photo and everything.

-Yeah. -But still I meet people,

when people don't dig it, I find it hard to trust them.

Yeah. [laughs]

[Danny] The Shininghas this cult following,

which is great.

I feel fortunate to have been in it.

And, uh, I guess, my guess would be that

it was probably playing on cable when all those guys were kids.

[laughs] And so, they were probably frightened by it like many other people.

The third Omenmovie, when he's in the, in the room

with the statue of Jesus.

"Show man instead the raptures of Thy kingdom." Oh, it's so...

Ooh, when he puts his hands on the thing, and it bleeds,

and they make the, the blood, you know, symbolize Jesus crying, whatever.

Oh, I would have just let him wi-- the anti-Christ win.

[Richard] Halloween III, Season Of The Witch.

And people either love it or hate it

because it doesn't have Michael Myers.

But that didn't bother me at all

when I was a kid, I was so young,

I wasn't kind of expecting to see Michael Myers.

And I look at it as a separate movie.

As a movie, a standalone movie.

Halloween IIIis incredible.

And I always liked it as a standalone movie.

Not because I was the assassin ripping people's heads off

mind you, but, anyway... [chuckles]

Evil Dead Part I,Sam Raimi.

Atmosphere,

attitude,

gore, soundtrack,

hands down, got to be...

...the The Black Rainbow of horror.

To me, the real, the real classics,

the ones that came out, like that Basket Case,

my friends and I still talk about Belial to this day.

And when it was cool, then you could show the girls to get them scared.

And then plus, still, you went through the classics, you know,

all the Friday the 13th and that sort of thing.

People wanted to see violence and blood,

and the people that were bad,

that were having premarital sex, and drinking,

and smoking pot or whatever die.

As soon as they say, "Jason," everybody knows the hockey mask.

I don't think that was expected, uh, when part one came out, part two, part three,

but when the first person, which was Richard, that donned the hockey mask,

I think it was just one of those things that took off.

This is a character that had six movies

uh, before I ever got involved,

and so everybody knew the character's name around the world.

It was almost like each successive movie

had to do honor to the previous ones

by coming up with inventive, crazy, over-the-top kills.

People are still looking back saying, "Well, that's Leatherface.

That's Jason, Michael Myers, and Freddie, of course."

One of my favorite movies is the Nightmare On Elm Street, the first one.

I still get scared of that fucking movie. It's, that was so awesome.

The first one was actually the most interesting for me.

Just the dynamics of the film,

of this whole town keeping a secret, this guilt.

That kind of was like a representation of humanity, uh,

keeping secrets and not letting certain things out.

I think there's a big reputation of that and how it can come back

to have these repercussions on, on them.

You're a vampire, Michael.

My own brother. A goddamn shit-sucking vampire.

Lost Boysis one of my all-time favorites movies ever.

And the connection between rock and roll,

long-haired dudes, leather dudes,

hot chicks, great music,

and killing people because you have to

'cause you're a vampire in beautiful California.

That was, like, one of the first ones that really made it cool and young,

uh, with, with the, with vampires.

I'm really fond of a movie called Prince Of Darkness.

This is, like, tremendous.

That ending has to be one of my most

favorite endings in the world.

I recommend that movie highly.

It scared me, and I thought about it for a while.

John Carpenter and I were good friends.

And I said, "I wanna come down and watch you do some of the filming."

And he says, "Okay, yeah, just come on down."

I put Alice in Prince Of Darkness

basically because he showed up.

I said, "Oh, here. Get in here."

He says, "You know that thing you do with the mic stand,

where you stick it through the guy on stage and it comes out the other end?

"Could we do that with a bicycle through this guy?"

And I went, "Sure."

Next thing I know, now, I'm in the movie.

It was a lot of fun to work with him. He's a great guy.

Hellraiseris another massive great film,

and I remember watching that for the first time

and being totally blown away with it.

And it had this kind of pornography to it.

Especially the second one as well. They took it

a little stage further in the second one.

And I think it was, uh, sort of S-M, bondage,

demonic, dark fantasy, I guess.

There is nothing like it,

I don't think, anywhere else in horror movies.

It's human. It's not human.

And then there's this little matter

of having a whole bunch of nails banged into your head,

which sounds like, sounds like a crazy idea.

Pet Sematary.Big film.

I remember very, very clearly when, you know, it sort of came out

and, and how it was spoken about

amongst the, the friends that I had that were allowed to sort of watch.

I mean, we were eight years old at that point,

So it was like, "Have you seen Pet Sematary?

"It's like the, the most frightening film ever."

That scene in Pet Sematary with the, the sister

who's got spinal meningitis, that's a real thing.

And you watch that and, you know, you get, like, goose-- I get goosebumps

even thinking about it, 'cause that's this classic scene of that movie.

Terrifying, you know.

Stephen King is a Ramones fan,

and, uh, we did the video, "Pet Sematary,"

where me, Joey, and the rest of the band

are, uh, going down into the grave.

Dee Dee decided to write the song,

and then it ended up in the movies.

So did "Sheena Is a Punk Rocker."

In the truck while the guy's driving,

and then the baby comes out on the highway and...

No!

Once White Zombie got-- started going, it was starting to get from records,

and there was money to be had,

I started directing the music videos,

and I, "Okay, okay. This will be my sort of in."

So, when the opportunity came up to make a film,

which was House Of 1000 Corpses, it was like...

That's why that movie, of all my movies,

has the most elements of, like, music video.

He had this little movie called House Of 1000 Corpses

that had been green-lit by Universal Studios.

And he asked me if I wanted to play, uh, this character, Otis Driftwood.

And I said, "Yeah."

And then, of course, that then, you know,

got refined and amplified in Devil's Rejects.

Devil's Rejects, still such a killer movie.

And so glad Sid Haig was introduced to the world again

as Captain Spaulding character. Maybe...

Probably the coolest character to come out

and I really, like, since the old guys.

I see how people

have been affected by what it is that I do,

and it's, it's, it's very flattering.

Captain Spaulding triggered the rebellious nature of people

because he just, Spaulding just does not give a shit, okay?

And that is kind of the attitude that goes along

with metal and horror,

is like, "You know, I'm gonna do what I'm gonna do.

If you don't like it, tough shit, okay?"

I think what makes effective horror is that

it registers the anxiety of the humans that are watching them.

That's what horror does best.

It makes meaning in the same way

melodrama and great opera makes meaning.

It thrives on humans' anxiety.

Horror films,

politically, philosophically,

emotionally, psychologically, spiritually,

depending on the film and the person,

there is a horror film that has affected them

and never, ever left their psyche.

And no other field does that.

And there you have a little history of the art of horror.

We've heard from many heavy metal artists

as they shared with us their favorite horror films.

Let's take a step back and find out

when their obsession with the genre first began.

On Saturday, you and your buddies would go to the east town,

and Mom would drop you off in the morning,

and it would be It Came From Outer Space

and The Brain That Wouldn't Die.

And that was the rite of passage.

That's how you, that, we grew up on those movies.

The first, uh, monster movie that I saw was

7th Voyage Of Sinbad, uh, with the cyclops.

Every time I'd wake up, I think he'd be, uh, out my window

ready to just, you know, put his head through it.

It was movies like that that really, uh,

left an impression in, in me as a young boy.

When you are a 10-year-old, you have an 11-year-old friend

who has a 12-year-old friend that has a 13-year-old, so, so on and so on,

from that 18-year-old that had Cannibal Holocaust, you know, so... [chuckles]

The first-- Uh, no, I didn't see that. I didn't want to,

but you know the, the whole principle.

I got introduced to weird shit too early.

They used to have big, giant, like, kind of coffee table books about horror movies,

and I, I would always ask for those for Christmas, you know.

And I subscribed to Famous Monstersmagazine, Forrest Ackerman.

Before I knew anything else, I was always really, really, really into horror movies.

I think as a kid, we all get excited about Halloween

and, and the different types of monsters

and watching cartoons and stuff.

We kind of graduated into stuff like, you know,

watching Dracula, the Wolf Man, Frankenstein,

The Mummy, the Creature Of Black Lagoon.

You know, all these classic flicks.

Strangely enough, when I was in, like, second grade or something,

they brought in a, the big reels and showed us

Phantom Of The Opera, the silent version, which seems like an odd thing.

It was very exciting, but it seemed like,

seems like an odd movie for a bunch of second graders.

My dad used to call it the Super Saturday,

and I was like, "Well, how many days of Super Saturday?"

He's like, "Two more days," and I'm like, "Yes."

It was just all this, just almost like overload of cartoons

and the Groovie Goolies were on. I was obsessed with that show.

It didn't seem that different to me, the Bugs Bunny or the Frankenstein. Like,

it really was a natural kind of thing, you know.

So, uh, that's really was the monsters in Addams Family.

Like, that's really kind of where, where it started.

I was raised in foster homes as a kid.

There was a little TV in the living room,

and on Saturday nights, there was this show,

and the show was called Jeepers Creepers.

And it showed all these, the really bad, you know,

Plan 9 From Outer Space, you know.

It's a good way to dump the foster kids.

We just watched monster movies all day.

I remember from a very early age

watching Chiller Theatre and Creature Features,

which were, like, on Channel 5

and/or Channel 11 on Saturday mornings.

So, of course, like most kids, I was watching cartoons on Saturdays,

but I was also watching horror movies,

uh, because my mom did.

My mom loved horror movies since she was little.

Uh, when I was small, I mean, probably four or five,

I was, uh, we would watch Creature Features

and, um, Chiller Theatre with the fucking, the hand.

I think it had six fingers. We always tried to count it.

Sometimes even The 4:30 Movie. Remember that?

Then they would have, like, Dracula

on The 4:30 Movie, or Frankenstein.

We build all those Aurora models.

Like crazy. I must have built five of each of them, you know.

That's-- just loved that shit.

They had this TV show called Ghost Host Theatre.

I believe it came on somewhere 10:00-ish to, like, 4:00-ish,

and it would play, like, two to three horror movies.

I remember a few times they played, like, Godzilla, you know,

then The Blob, and we used to just watch them.

And that made me wanna watch more movies.

They had this thing called the Sunday Morning Movie,

that mixed with Twilight Zone

mixed with Outer Limits mixed with Night Gallery.

That was a lot of ammo to throw at a child,

and, and, uh, uh,

I, I adored it, I loved it.

I know that it must have been when I was around three,

because I remember it was our in our old apartment.

I know that we saw Funhouse. I was so afraid.

I mean, there's this, like, robotic clown

that comes through a tunnel with, like, a corpse.

That, that's, that is still, like, stuck with me forever.

I, I think I took chances in horror when I was really young.

I started watching Faces Of Death,

and the reality ones that you see

people getting chopped up, shit like that.

I don't know how the fuck I got a hold of them, but it kind of warped me.

[chuckles]

But that's what I liked watching.

My dad took us to see Poltergeist.

I was, like, maybe six or something when that movie came out,

and, uh, he took us to see it 'cause we just asked him to.

And he was like, "Okay."

He wasn't like, "This is inappropriate

for a six-year-old at all." [chuckles]

I would stay up late in my, um, in my bedroom,

and I had a tiny black and white television, you know,

that you had to, that I'd get the reception and to stay up late and watch.

They would show trailers for Friday The 13th I and II.

And the fact that it was, the TV was in black and white,

and, and, and gritty and grainy

just made it even more scary.

To me, this was actually more,

it seemed more of a documentary,

'cause I didn't know that movies didn't happen.

You know, I just figured people had cameras,

and they just happened to be around

when all this bad stuff was happening.

There were these orange books,

and they were the monster books,

like, you know, Frankenstein, Dracula,

Invisible man, uh, Wolf Man, King Kong,

and, and it was made by this company called Crestwood.

And I loved these books. I would check them out every single day.

Check them out every day, every day.

And I, I just worshipped these books.

So my mom got me the whole set.

And, um, that's what really got me into it at such a young age.

I was around, uh, eight years old, and I saw, um,

one of the first Draculafilms in a walk-in theater.

We went shopping with my mom or something.

She dropped us off at the theater.

We walked in there, and Christopher Lee comes

rising out of the carpet, and we went, "Aah!"

It just was, just, just that opening scene where I was, like, horrified.

It must have been about 1981 or 1982.

We went to my Aunt Donna's house to watch American Werewolf In London.

My dad was like, "You're gonna love this movie. I read about it.

It's supposed to be this cool werewolf movie."

And, of course, the transformation scene

just blew my mind. It was the greatest thing ever.

The recurring dream sequences were, were literally truly terrifying.

Especially with the Nazi werewolves that burst into the living room

and, like, you know, just totally gunned down the entire family.

Really, really freaked me out.

You know, that's what began my love affair with horror was that.

I think that was the defining moment. It was like riding, you know,

a dangerous switchback railway.

It was like, "Wow, I wanna go again."

Started watching Dark Shadows when I was probably about three.

It was a serial, like a soap opera,

like General Hospital.

It ran from '66 to '71,

and it was about a vampire named Barnabas Collins.

So I started watching horror, and my mother watched it,

and so probably, yeah, about three or four years old.

I was probably about, uh,

I'm gonna say five or six,

and my mom took me to see Buck Rogers.

Like, you know the movie with, uh, with Gil Gerard, right?

Like the, the disco sci-fi flick.

My mom was like, "Well, you know, he liked Star Wars.

Maybe he'll like this, you know."

The trailer for the original Halloween

was attached to the movie,

and I was so transfixed.

That was it for me.

Whether it is literature, painting, or film,

there is always a dark side to art.

Let us take a look at the darker side of music.

Let us explore the history of metal.

Music, right? I mean, music was around forever.

But the origins of metal are from the blues.

Robert Johnson could get credited for inventing rock and roll.

When you see in the '60s and '70s,

the emergence of progressive rock and heavy metal.

Things were louder, things were more dangerous.

Metal is under the rock umbrella,

but metal, metal, metal started with Black Sabbath.

[Brian] Black Sabbath when they first started

was a band called Earth, and they were a blues band,

and they kind of took that, even Led Zeppelin as well,

they kind of took those themes and that style of music,

and put it into this different kind of musical genre.

[Eddie] The song "Black Sabbath," the album Black Sabbath.

There was stuff that was heavy music before that,

but to me, that's the official birth of heavy metal.

They fused horror and, and heavy music together.

You know, Black Sabbath was a Boris Karloff film, right?

You know, that's where they got the name, from the film,

and they combined it with heavy music, and that's how heavy metal was born.

Black Sabbathwas playing in a movie theater.

There was a line around the block,

and they were all looking like,

"People wanna be scared. Look at that line."

Let's change it. And they got the name from the movie.

You know, that's when they made a turn from Earth to Black Sabbath.

[Corey] Anybody who says that Black Sabbath didn't fucking

invent heavy metal is a fucking idiot.

You shut your mouth, dick bags.

I'll give credit where credit is due to bands who have helped,

but Black Sabbath set the template.

After Black Sabbath, I mean,

there was bands like Judas Priest.

You know, little later, Iron Maiden.

I mean, these bands took

what Sabbath started doing and made it faster.

I mean, you can say metal to somebody,

and it could mean anything from Poison and Bon Jovi

to Carcass to Slayer to Metallica to Guns N' Roses.

You had the birth of thrash. You had the influence, I think,

of punk and hardcore on it as well.

That sort of meshed in a little bit.

And now you have probably 20 sub-genres of it,

that it means something different to so many different people.

So, I think it's just, it's just had

so many bastard children along the way.

Isn't history fascinating?

Now that you've learned a little history of metal and horror,

let us see how horror influenced the musicians.

Let the convergence begin.

In the '50s and early '60, there were actually, uh,

there were all kind of, like, minor hits, like novelty rock things,

but they were actually quite a bit of them.

Started then. It's where the horror rock started.

I guess the first one that really got me was

was Screamin' Jay Hawkins, who had wrote "I Put A Spell On You."

Bryan Ferry's done it. Marilyn Manson's done it.

It will be done a hundred more times.

[Doug] Screaming Lord Sutch, I knew him as the guy

who appeared in photographs with the toilet seat around his neck.

I met him on the top of a double-decker bus,

and he impressed me as a very intelligent man

who knew exactly how to market himself.

[screams]

I guess, as a music fan, a lot of the time,

you kind of proceed in, in

"What the fuck" moments when something new suddenly comes along,

and I have a very fixed memory of that.

Watching Top Of The Pops and on comes this

creature with his head on fire,

and I was absolutely mesmerized,

and that was The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown.

Although this shock that we were actually putting out there

was to get beneath the daily level of the mind

that every, you know, that numbs everybody.

The education gives you that, that, uh, daily existence demands

of what is there beneath that,

so that that was what, what it was about.

So I made characters. One of the characters was the God of Hellfire.

It was very shocking at that time.

It isn't now.

We did some shows together. It was kind of great.

He had one of the best voices of anybody.

He had the greatest range.

You know, he could sing way up here

and way down here like an operatic voice.

So, I always really liked Arthur Brown.

Arthur, Arthur Brown was, was great.

Alice, yeah, you know, I could see that.

And I could see that also, he took it in his own direction

and made something great out of it.

I think Alice can take you to another place

because of all the creepy, macabre kind of stuff.

He had everything that I wanted 'cause I really wanted it to be horror influence.

There was a darkness to the other bands,

and it's kind of get the elements,

but the Alice Cooper stuff, it's just, like, right there.

You know, "Ballad of Dwight Fry," it's so right there.

Alice Cooper, you know, is an iconic example of, of horror.

His stage show is and always will be amazing.

It's a, you know, a real-life horror show.

Where everybody was Peter Pan, Alice needed to be Captain Hook.

You know, you had so many rock heroes out there,

and I kept going, "Where's the rock villains?"

There really aren't any villains.

So a rock audience, seeing a Broadway play,

fully blown up, but it's a horror show.

And it's really well done with lights,

and characters, and, and music.

It shocked everybody. It was very shocking.

But he is a little bit spooky on stage.

He's got that monster thing going,

and it's macabre, and the chopping up of the heads,

and hanging himself, and cutting his own head off, and all that stuff.

I could see even way back when in the '70s,

they started bringing in these monsters with music.

I remember, like, when I was six years old,

my dad... opened this magazine, he's like,

"This is the fucking shit, man."

It was a, it was a big picture of Kiss.

He showed me videos, and I was like, "Oh, it's amazing."

[Scott] When I first got into Kiss in '75,

you know, I was already into horror movies,

and I was well into comic books and music, and I was into rock,

so Kiss was kind of, like, the whole package.

Off the brown aisle scoop the Kiss.

To me, that was the epitome of horror, originality.

The beginnings.

I respect that because they did it first.

My best friend in the business is Rob Zombie.

Rob and I are good friends, and he's a director now.

I mean, he directs horror. And he has the same attitude towards horror that I do.

That it's comedy.

[Eddie] Well, just the way Rob Zombie looks

and the way his band looks and the way his stages

and these robots and these things that he's doing.

He really, I think, embodies everything

that it is to merge metal and horror.

When I was in White Zombie,

I mean, just the name itself was...

...from a great Lugosi film, and I thought the name is so classic.

It's like, "Oh, it's so obvious. This is like Black Sabbath.

It's like White Zombie. It's the perfect name for band."

Even before there was a band, I was like, "If there's ever a band,

this is what I wanna call it." I knew that forever.

And then once I was on my own, and I could do whatever I wanted,

that's when like, "Oh, I'm gonna have giant robots on stage.

I'm gonna have all kinds of creatures. I'm gonna have giant screens."

Whatever I thought of was what I did.

Lyrically, horror definitely has had a big influence,

uh, on what I've done in my life, that's, that's for sure.

The song "Among The Living," the title track of the album,

is about, based off of The Stand.

And it's about Randall Flagg in,

um, the Stephen King character.

The song "Lone Justice," off of Spreading the Disease,

influenced by The Dark Towerseries.

I wrote about things I knew, and that was

King books and comics and,

uh, that was it.

We had a song, "I Don't Wanna Go Down To The Basement,"

Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

So, we were influenced by those movies,

to be able to write about them.

Lizzie Borden? Who's this girl, you know?

[laughs] What does she want, you know? Even though

it was the O.J. Simpson trial of that time,

a lot of kids never heard of it.

And now, of course, they're doing movies and stuff

of the real Lizzie Borden.

I saw The Omen. And when Thorn wipes the kid's cheek

with the fox blood, 'cause he killed his first hound,

I just love that, you know.

And so, I brought that into my show.

And I do that all over the world,

and every kid wants blood on their faces.

When we did our "Sandpaper" video,

we thought we should do a homage to Evil Dead.

You know, what if our band was possessed by demons,

people who know Evil Dead will go,

"That's a homage to Evil Dead.We like this."

There was always that vibe too.

If it was cheaply done, well done, made it even scarier.

Everything about what we do is completely influenced

by horror movies or comics.

There's a character in Redneck Zombies called the Tobacco Man,

and he wears a hood, and I think you're supposed to think

that he's got, like, cancer or something.

He's, like, rotting, and that was where we got the idea for that.

Over the years, I've got various requests

to work, um, with metal bands, usually through my agent.

The only one of those that ever came to fruition was Cradle of Filth.

Well, we did an album called Midian,

which is based on Clive Barker's book Cabal,

which then was obviously the Nightbreedmovie.

So we thought that if we're gonna have a narrative in it,

it would be good to have someone from the Clyde Barker world of horror.

It was great to have dug himself,

and, and we immediately, like, affected his voice to sound like Pinhead--

So I did four albums with Cradle.

I was suggesting that they should change their name

to Doug Bradley and Cradle of Filth.

[Dani] When I discovered metal, I was just a few years into my sort of

being very much into horror, as soon as I discovered metal,

I totally embraced it and totally understood how one embraced the other.

Everything we've done has that vampiric element to it as well.

Not so much for Korn, but I did, uh,

I had a alter ego J Devil when I was doing DJing.

And I did a song called "Lick Me,"

and it takes samples from The Exorcist.

When the little girl was banging herself. She's goes "Lick me!"

So, I mean, uh, shit like that, using samples like that

and stuff like that are really intense.

I used the music, a lot of metal music,

for listening to in between violent scenes.

It just helps my energy.

I used one song in particular a lot,

and that was "Enter Sandman,"

my favorite Metallica song still.

For years and years, I've been a fan of Metallica.

I just think they're awesome.

And, uh, love their, uh, album, uh, "Enter Sandman."

That one is unbelievable.

I've had my guitar, you know,

I clicked my guitar in, you know,

and I noodle sometimes when I'm watching movies.

Sometimes I find myself

kind of, like, playing to the flow of the film,

and I kind of-- trying to anticipate what's gonna happen next.

I'll write a riff, and I go, "Oh, goddamn.

That sounds like Godzilla walking through Tokyo, you know?"

If you're writing heavy metal and you have a riff

that sounds like Godzilla is walking through Tokyo,

that's yum. You're on the right track.

Wendy O. Williams, you know, who we're named after,

the band is an ode to Wendy O.

You know, it's like just blowing up the cars

and chainsawing things in half

and making it a real horror show, um, and real shocking.

And I think that that, uh, obviously has been a huge influence.

[Carla] We were very influenced by horror and a lot of the songs

that we wrote were about, you know, serial killers

and real-life experiences that would scare you.

And I think that horror

and the things that scare us are still a running theme in all of our songs.

The fact that we do metal of a darker and heavier sort

make us slightly close to horror movie

and then maybe them to Teletubbies, I don't know.

-[Tim chuckles] -[Johanness] Sometimes we try to scare people,

make people uncomfortable

in the stuff we are trying to tell.

And lots of that imagery

comes from horror movie, then obviously.

Well, Skinny Puppy started as, uh,

an electronic band that didn't wanna just stand up on stage

and do a little dance because electronic music can be quite sterile.

So our weekends were composed of taking a lot of hallucinogenics

and watching horror film, after horror film, after horror film

until they actually blended together.

Fulci really hit me hard because there is

an abstract nature to his films

that I didn't understand, but in the altered state that we were in,

it was incredibly effective of inducing inspiration for stage effects.

I think if you grow up enough with listening to horror themes and stuff like that,

within your music,

let you be writing darker material.

It's gonna come out of you. It's gonna come out of you, you know?

Uh, Necrophagia, the stuff I wrote for them.

The Christ Inversion.

Bands like that, I've always, you know...

Not to mention...

...the name of the second band's uh, record is

Vulgar Display of Power.

And I ripped that off...

...from The Exorcist.

[devilish voice] That's much too vulgar display of power, Karras.

My band, Charred Walls of the Damned,

we've made a couple of videos,

and they were both horror theme.

One was called "Ghost Town" and one was called "Zerospan."

These music videos offer a chance to make a,

you know, three or four-minute short horror film.

When we did, um...

...an album based on Dante Alighieri's,

uh, The Divine Comedy.

It was about the story of Dante traveling from,

you know, hell through purgatory to paradise.

We had a video "Convicted in Life,"

and it was using a lot of imagery from that actual book

that translated into this imagery.

That was really incredible in what he was writing,

and he used that in the imagery of the actual video.

I love all the dark side of things, I actually have

another thrash band with my sons, Hatriot.

And we did a song about the Countess Báthory,

called "And Your Children to Be Damned," and we were

completely drenched in blood through the whole video.

And people didn't like it. But I liked it because I was like,

"Well, I never got to be in a horror movie, so I wanted to be

drenched in blood and something."

So I made the director drench us all in blood and it was cool.

So it's, it's, it's always been a part of it.

I write-- my stuff is usually about that, that, that,

that darker side of things, you know?

We had a band a long time ago that existed for, like, a minute

called Haunted Garage.

The lead singer's name is Dukey Flyswatter.

He ended up being in Jim Rose Circus Sideshow thing for a while.

So they're still doing it out there, and he's still, like,

he's done a bunch of acting, a bunch of, like, low-grade horror movies

and stuff, so they're still out there doing stuff. So it's funny.

They're kind of on the same wavelength as GWAR,

but they were a little more psychological.

It was like they would perform autopsies on stage.

Like, I mean, it was dark, dark shit.

But I can remember seeing that, and just being

like, "Whoa!" You know? "What the hell is this?"

We, like, dove right into the whole concept that we were, like, uh,

a B horror movie on steroids,

Ghost is just like Papa.

The singer's got his face painted up like a skull,

and he's dressed like the priest.

That's awesome, you know, that's like horror rock

or shock rock, or what everyone call it.

We tend to go retrospectively back

in order to recreate a lot of visual elements that we just find pleasing.

As much as we were influenced by horror films,

it was also a fascination

with, uh, musicals, actually.

Simple example is obviously The Phantom of the Opera.

You don't know who's underneath,

and it could be whatever you like.

Marilyn and I jousted in the press when he first came out

because he was the, uh, Priest in the satanic,

you know, Anton LaVey's thing, all that whole thing.

And I'm Christian.

And, you know,

I, I kind of, uh,

our theology didn't match up at all.

And then we toured together. And had a great time.

I think the scariest thing about Marilyn was the videos.

The girl that did the videos was really good.

Really cemented what Marilyn was about there.

I have been kissed by Marilyn Manson.

-[electronic scratch] -You don't get over that in a hurry.

I recently met Jeordie White,

who actually is in the Marilyn Manson's group.

He was influenced by the horror genre.

As was, I guess, Marilyn.

We're more...

...interested in, like, the chaos, and the shock,

and the sexuality, and confusion,

which is always somewhere between Texas Chainsaw Massacre

and the Pink Flamingos and John Waters' movie.

You know, those are the movies that we would watch to get inspired by.

I really loved the whole,

the dark, outrageous,

cool look, great songs.

So I was really, um, into the band

before I got into the band, and luckily, you know,

it just, everything just came together.

I don't wanna look like a regular dude.

And I, I love,

you know, the makeup, like Jack Pierce would do, all the Universal stuff,

and I really, really was so influenced by him and his genius.

And luckily, being with Zombie,

it's just exactly what I grew up

loving and wanting to be,

and it's like a monster with a guitar.

Wednesday 13 is really good at it.

He's fantastic. Nobody turns a pun like he does

when it comes to horror, you know?

And his music is great. He's passionate about it.

And I think that's one of the things you have to be.

You have to be passionate about it.

The first Murderdolls single that we did, uh,

was a song called "Dead In Hollywood," which originally was,

was on Frankenstein Drag Queens' third album.

And it was originally called "Hooray for Horrorwood,"

which I got from famous monsters or creepy magazine

because there's a line where it says,

"You can knock on Ed Wood, but it won't do you no good.

Hey, Leatherface, remove my face."

And we had a part in the video where Joe's a woman.

And he rips the face off, and he's screaming,

You know? So we did a little homage to that.

As far as horror goes with what Wednesday 13

is it's just like, "I'm just getting started."

And I'm really just getting started with it.

I have ideas and things that I've never seen anybody do before

that I want to, to try.

Slayer, obviously

one of my favorite bands.

Extremely horror influence throughout the year.

Many, many songs written

about horrible things, serial killers.

And if a band could be a horror movie, it would--

for me, it would be Slayer.

Jack the Ripper.

There's a lot of people

that have stories

based on that particular killer.

When you think about Iron Maiden Killers,same thing. Eddie, with his hatchet.

There's, uh, several songs that they have about that whole period,

roaming the streets, "Murders In the Rue Morgue," stuff like that.

A band that's doing really interesting work right now is Behemoth.

It's kind of half artsy and half horror movie.

You know, they're working with this company named [unintelligible]

and they're just doing an amazing graphic work.

And we talked to Nergal.

He's obviously a massive,

massive fan of horror stuff.

So they're kind of incorporating with-- the lyrics with these crazy images.

That imagery has always been there, you know?

The, the demons and the, uh,

all of that shit, you know? It kind of goes hand in hand.

[Mike] Type O Negative, 'cause they're just rule.

-I would say they were horror influenced. -[Woody inaudible]

-[Woody] Totally. -[Mike] Yeah.

Dudes like Frankenstein, man.

Another band that has been

influential in many ways,

um, that I also strongly, like, connect with, with, you know,

horror metal is definitely The Misfits.

It might not be super apparent in our music,

but it, it's melodically and attitude-wise, it's...

I've always been very influenced by Misfits.

It was the best combination of punk and horror that I'd ever heard.

I mean, it doesn't get much better than "Vampira."

It doesn't get much better than "Skulls."

It doesn't get much better than "Horror Business."

"Psycho '78," unless you saw the movie,

how the hell are you gonna put that together, you know?

That's the stuff that I love, man.

It's that, that wry little... [clicks tongue] you know?

[Kirk] When I first heard the Misfits, I heard

-the music first, I... -[unintelligible]

Pretty cool. But then when I saw what they looked like,

I was like, "Okay, I totally get it.

I totally get where they are coming from."

I saw the album, you know, their Mars, you know?

And the background is a bat-rat-spider-crab

from Angry Red Planet.

I just thought it was the most coolest thing,

'cause that's what I wanted to do, you know?

It's just imagery. It's art. It's, you know,

I can't write about puppies, flowers, and rainbows.

Nobody's going to buy it.

And you want that 15-year-old kid

to read the lyrics, and be like,

"Sick. These guys are fucked-up. This is nuts." You know? And...

It's all just imagery, man. It's, it's art.

I remember when I was probably like 19 or 20,

my friend was telling me, "You gotta go see this bang GWAR."

I just heard they dress up of these costumes, and it's a crazy show.

And then, When they still had the girl in the band,

she wound up giving birth on stage to a baby,

and they put it through the wood chipper.

I thought that was the greatest thing ever.

-And then-- -Did you take a date?

Huh? No, I didn't have a date.

Yeah. No girl wanted to go see that.

GWAR for somebody who is so over the top

and so silly that it just worked.

It's pretty obvious

that it has...

...comic books, horror films,

bloodlust,

Dungeons and Dragons,

Soupy Sales.

The horror expression on someone's face

when, when we murder them

and they're bleeding and dying,

and, and it's just a really happy moment.

But horror is, uh, you know, it's a great genre. We love it.

It's a great way to make meaning, and we're lucky

to be a part of-- I don't know what the fuck I'm saying.

There's a band that I really love called Cannibal Corpse,

and they do a lot of horror, kind of, like,

lyrics about chopping up people and all that kind of stuff.

[Jose] Every one of their words in their songs

are like mini horror stories.

Mini killing stories, murder stories.

Real sick, twisted, bloody, gory tales

told in three-minute blast beats.

And with these lyrics that are like, "Oh, my God, a comic book."

We'd look at our stuff as just like...

...um, brutal...

...metal soundtrack over horror stories, you know? Horror movies.

Some of them being graphic, some of them being psychological,

and some of them, you know, some of our songs are just

fucking Fulci. You know what I mean?

Some of them are, you know, dead alive.

Just, you know, just blood and gore.

And some of them are more psychological.

You know, where it's just,

you know, it's the, the, the f-- the horror and the fear,

certain things and, and them happening.

King Diamond is probably very underrated when it comes to that stuff,

But look at his albums, his albums or movies.

And he will paint that all day.

[Dave] King is probably the heir apparent to Alice.

But I do believe that Alice heavily influenced him.

Portal, hands down.

They to me, sound like

the chaotic, swaying...

...off kilter world

that Lovecraft invented

and their lyrics are fucking...

...genius.

I'm sorry. Hands down, Portal.

Death is one of the bands. All the old Death songs and, and, and, um,

you know, "Scream Bloody Gore" is reanimated, you know.

Um, and then they have the song "Evil Dead," you know? So extremely gore.

Definitely you can see throughout that whole album.

We're at Knotfest, idiot. Of course, Slipknot stands out as a horror band.

They've been around for a long fucking time paying their dues.

I mean, it's fucking good shit.

[Jizmak] Yeah, they're badass musicians.

And they're fucking, their masks are pretty sick. They're pretty scary, right?

I mean, they're not as scary as us, but they're pretty scary.

I think Slipknot's probably the best example of a modern-day band

that's kind of adapted that Kiss imagery.

It also gives them a uniform look, which I liked.

There was that thing about Kiss. I mean, even though they had these garish costumes,

they were a gang. You could see this.

I think, because I was a horror fan,

and all the guys in the band were horror fans,

we knew how to set that tone.

We knew how to set that mood of foreboding, you know,

and just closing people in.

You know, the masks, there's always been this byproduct

where people have always assumed

that we started wearing them for shock value.

But it was always so much more artistic than that.

It was about letting that other person out,

which I think is very much in line with why Michael Myers wore it.

He put it on so he could let that beast out.

This music is coming from a person inside me

that I may not be able to show the world around me.

So I put this mask on. And then all of a sudden, boom.

-There he is. -[glitches]

Metal and horror work so well together, don't they?

Don't they, Christopher?

[suspenseful music]

Oh, yes, I can see you.

[scoffs]

How are you doing this?

Let's just say I'm not a prerecorded video.

I am a messenger.

Have a seat, so we may continue

your lesson.

You are the lone survivor of the apocalypse, Christopher.

The last one to acquire the knowledge that I have to share.

I'm the only survivor?

Yes.

You're the lone survivor of an empty, desolate world.

The last remaining human...

...to absorb this knowledge.

Hasn't there been enough horror in the world?

[stutters] This is hell.

We all need an escape from time to time.

It's entertainment, Christopher.

Let us move forward.

We will now cover a few segments,

starting with the use of horror artwork on album covers.

And the creation of horror film soundtracks.

Then, we will take a look at the meeting grounds

for the fans of metal and horror

in the form of conventions.

Here we go.

-[glitches] -What I liked was the horror movie imagery

on the stage, on the album covers.

I mean, Iron Maiden, still one of my all-time favorite bands.

One of my top three favorite bands,

with thebest marketing idea ever. Of Eddie.

You see the imagery of Eddie, you know what it is.

Every album, Eddie's got a new, uh, look.

They go to space, Somewhere in Time.

They go to Egypt, Powerslave, he's the mummy Eddie.

You go to Canada, He's a Mountie.

You go to Russia, he's a Bolshevik.

Anywhere you go around the world,

Eddie can be something from that culture

that comes directly from horror movies.

We've seen Eddie so much, but he's a zombie with long hair.

But he's Eddie. He's become so classic.

Well, I remember the first Iron Maiden record.

As little kids, we took our,

well, me and my friends, uh, went on our bikes

to this record store, um, and I saw the first Iron Maiden.

I'm like, "This has to be good. Look at this cover."

And it was like $7.99. I'm gonna take a chance on it.

Like, I get back home and listen to it and it was amazing so...

Th-- It'll definitely, a cover would definitely do it for me.

I bought that record without knowing it at, at all what Iron Maiden sounded like.

But I see a zombie on the cover.

And this really cool font for a logo.

And it was in the metal section in the store. This was in 1980.

So, I, I-- "All right, all right, it's a metal band.

And look at that guy on the cover.

Holy shit! Look at that dude."

Eddie trans-- He, he, like, transformed Iron Maiden.

It's like, obviously, he became that icon.

Just like Megadeth has their icon. Everyone was looking for, like,

"Who are we going to have for our 'symbol' of the band?" You know?

[Dave] The inspiration for our mascot, Vic Rattlehead, is really simple.

I think a lot of people have looked at it and missed it.

It's so in your face. It's, "See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil."

That's it. I drew the guy,

then we...

...put the bones behind it for being kind of like a pirate.

And then we changed his head to it.

So that, you know, you're stuck to this lifestyle

because, you know, as troubadours,

we really are marauders going from town to town.

I think an album cover artwork, its purpose is to say,

"You can't hear me, but look at me.

I'm cool enough, you wanna hear me."

It wouldn't be much different from how movie theaters

would drag people in, you know?

Um, or billboards or, you know,

film posters, especially the '80s--

well, late '70s, early '80s,

always dripping with blood, and people love that kind of thing.

[Charlie] There's been a band called Ghost,

which I'd-- I took a liking to,

and then I saw the cover, their first album.

I saw and I'm like, "Wow, this is Salem's Lot."

I just loved the whole aesthetic of that,

of that group, you know? It just has everything that I love.

I remember walking through Sears department store

and seeing Kiss Love Gun. It just came out.

I remember it was like this music group of monsters.

And so I bought it just on the cover, and it interchanged my life.

The Brain Drainalbum cover of the Ramones is art work of a ghost.

It would attract the buyer to the album

that obviously was a horror or sci-fi fan, or metal, or punk. Whatever it is.

Well, Cannibal Corpse definitely has the most grotesque

horror album covers ever.

You know, people being disemboweled and all kinds of crazy stuff.

They, they probably take the cake as far

as gory album covers.

When I recently got Cannibal Corpse Tomb of the Mutilatedon vinyl,

it's one of the most horrific and shocking album covers that you'll ever see,

and I love it because it's shocking as hell.

Yeah, I think about the covers we have, some of them are just...

Butchered at Birth, I mean, come on. And, and that pisses people off

like to no end, you know?

You start messing with babies and stuff.

Ozzy Osbourne, Blizzard of Ozz

is one that sticks in my mind

as far as just being an amazing album.

Uh, Bark at the Moonis like,

obviously him as a werewolf was pretty fucking cool.

[Jim] Diary of a Madmancover had the upside-down cross at the background.

Ozzy's bloody. He's got a little kid over there.

So that was a little, a little frightening.

Album covers are just like posters, you know?

They're like movie posters. They're like,

"Hey, if there is, if it's a good album cover,

it's gonna give you a flavor of what you're gonna be listening to."

I think the late '70s

and right through the '80s became such a fertile time.

You had people on one hand doing horror music,

and you had people on the other hand doing horror film.

And then somewhere in the middle, where these two circles crossed,

you had a hybrid.

The one that kicked it off for me was

Phantom of the Paradise.

That was heavy metal,

rock and roll, horror.

And that, to me, was

the piece that said it that everybody had to go to.

Then you had things like Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park.

That was 1978.

So it wasn't really metal, but it was Kiss

and it was a lot of their stuff,

so that kind of kicked it off.

But they have a film,

the first metal exploitation horror film.

1980, Terror on Tour.

Then 1984, Alice Cooper, Monster Dog.

Hard Rock Zombies,1985.

Also, about 1986, Maximum Overdrive,

Rock 'n' Roll Nightmare, Black Roses,

Shock 'Em Dead, A Nightmare on Elm Street 3.

I tend to like um, you know, that, the whole Freddy Krueger thing.

I thought it was really a great series.

And I remember being so jealous at George Lynch

and, and Dokken for having a song in that series.

They'd already titled the movie. A lot of people think we came up

with the song "Dream Warriors," but we didn't.

And that was the first time somebody ever come to me and say,

"You write a song, but it has to be called 'Dream Warriors,'

and the title 'Dream Warriors' must be in the chorus."

[Eddie] Dokken's "Dream Warriors," they actually incorporated,

there's footage in the video for that song

-of Freddy Krueger... -[Jim] Right.

...and that was actually, that was really something that was paired up,

I think, pretty, uh, directly,

as opposed to where the other films

may have just licensed songs or whatever.

Yeah, "The Man Behind the Mask" from Alice Cooper,

and the Friday the 13thmovie.

[Alice] When you had your new horror characters,

your Jasons and your Michael Myers,

the new slasher films

sort of happened the same time as metal did.

So there was a connection there.

If you saw an action scene with Jason

and Freddy Krueger fighting, well, it certainly wasn't gonna be violin music.

It was going to be... [imitates metal music]

...aggressive kind of, uh, music.

That, and it worked together. It just works together.

The bands are influenced by horror movies

also because many horror movies, they use the heavy metal.

Uh, included Dario, Dario Argento use a lot of heavy metal for his film.

[John] Dario Argento used it really well and early.

And if you see his movie called Phenomena,

he used heavy metal in that really to a great effect.

If you listen to the soundtracks, or if you go through the soundtracks

of The Return of the Living Dead,

it was basically a compilation of rock

and... punk songs.

When I watch The Return of the Living Dead,

I still get goose bumps

when the skeleton comes up and starts saying,

"Do you want a party?"

It was like, "Okay, now chaos is gonna ensue."

Soundtracks for films

of the singles were selling as well,

if not better than soundtracks

that were the composed score to the, to the film.

Music is like the,

the unsung hero of horror movies.

Especially you look at Psycho, you look at Jaws,

you look at Halloween, you look at Friday the 13th,

they really kind of push the boundaries,

and I think that's one of the reasons why horror is always

so at the forefront of, musically,

just being able to kind of get away with murder.

[heavy metal music]

Every week of the year,

you can go to a horror convention.

Can't go to a romance convention,

can't go to a Western convention,

can't even go to a Star Warsconvention

every week of the year.

But every week of the year

in the United States, someplace,

there's a horror convention.

How and when did horror conventions begin?

Well, I mean, I can tell you when they began for me.

They began for me in the '80s, uh, when magazines

like Fangoria, Chiller Convention

and all of those East Coast entities

started putting on a show so everybody could be together.

But before that, with Famous Monsters of Filmland

with James Warren and Forrest J Ackerman,

they began in the 1970s,

when they held their very first-ever convention,

I think in 1974 in New York City.

As they started to come up, you're like,

"Wow, we have a history of horror." You know?

And that's why I think, you know, things like Monsterpalooza

are thriving now because they're showing you,

like, these are the people who have done the makeup.

These are people who are in the films.

And then here are the films themselves.

So you have a full-rounded presentation,

and that's something for everyone.

My partner, Eben, is

the one that is the brain trust of Mad Monster,

and his vision was to make an old-school convention

because what we are selling and what we're buying

is not stuff, it's memories.

I put to the rock and roll and the horror movies thing together.

Sure, I am.

A friend of mine, Kevin Barbary,

who was already attending conventions

way before... I ever did.

He brought the idea to us to have a convention

up here where we added a music festival

to the horror convention as well.

This convention, I liked it 'cause we got to play

and, um, all great friends of mine, and it was great to see 'em.

And it's cool to have the show too.

I never had any interest in throwing a festival before.

I just enjoyed showing my friends horror films.

We're not like the biggest festival,

but I think we are a unique festival.

I think we show killer fucking movies.

I know we have killer fucking bands

year in and year out.

That's Housecore.

We're about to bring up some badasses to the stage.

Who are...

...dudes highly respected

in the worlds of rock and roll and horror.

This will be my second year in a row

hosting Kirk Hammett's Fear FestEvil.

It's an honor, man. It's like my community service to get to do that

because I'm able to get up on stage and talk

about how much these two worlds mean to me.

[Bill] The Kirk Hammett's show, um,

yes, I was on stage with those guys, so...

A lot of the metal guys, you know, have been inspired

by some of the movies I do.

Fear FestEvil was great.

Um, I got to go up with my buddy Joel Harlow,

the fucking genius makeup affects guy.

He's Johnny Depp's guy.

He did a live application on stage in front of an audience

and turned me into Jack the Ripper.

I would just sit in a chair just so I could get made up,

look at myself in the mirror, and then take a picture of it

and go, "Wow, look what I did today."

Like it's the coolest thing in the world.

I think like in Kirk's case, when I first met him,

he gave me a signed copy of his book

Too Much Horror Business,

and I right away read that book,

and I learned that Kirk as a child, you know,

grew up with an intense interest in horror films.

I was invited to his show,

uh, several years ago in San Francisco

and had an absolutely wonderful time there.

And then, I had the opportunity to see a large portion

of his magnificent collection.

I don't know if I ever realized

what kind of a collection he has,

and I think I've still only seen just a portion of it.

[Bela] I was privileged to attend the convention.

And a concert that he put on where he performed on stage.

And, and it was really quite an experience.

I know there, there are people out there who love horror.

I know there are people who love heavy metal.

And I know there are people who love both.

And basically, I'm reaching out to those people

and saying, "Hey, man, I'm into it too. And I got a lot of cool stuff.

You can just come over and check it out. And you know what?

I got a great guild that I have assembled

of some really great cool bands

filled with guys who love horror movies as well.

And, you know, these are my buds.

And at the end, we're gonna have a big old jam

because we just all love the same stuff."

And what it really is,

Fear FestEvil's just a celebration

of both things, horror and heavy metal.

[Gunnar] I go to several conventions a year.

And there really does seem to be a real strong link between heavy metal and horror.

Lots of, uh, what we would call metal heads

come to my table.

I see them everywhere, though.

Yeah, I see it all over the world.

Every person that is not wearing a horror T-shirt

is wearing a heavy metal T-shirt, that's for sure.

It is the same kind of people, I think the same clientele

that, that goes to both of these things.

Horror movies and heavy metal concerts.

They are quite, quite wonderful,

uh, and, uh, I love them all.

From the bottom of my heart...

...thank you.

[glitches]

Thoughts?

[soft suspenseful music]

Why does this matter now?

Horror conventions?

There are no more people around

to go to horror conventions.

But what great experiences they were.

Men, women and children

from all over the world came together

to share their mutual love

for such brilliant art forms.

But it's all gone now. [pants]

It's all gone, and this is all pointless.

I, I'm done with this bullshit.

[electricity zaps]

No need for hostility, Christopher.

I am merely trying to share my knowledge with you.

As it stands,

I am the only friend you have.

So please take a seat.

We have arrived at the conclusion of your lesson.

The most crucial chapter.

Now is the time to find out

exactly why metal and horror work so well together.

What is it that makes these two genres

so compatible with one another?

It has all been leading up to this.

[glitches]

Horror has become very visible.

And this is where it gets interesting

in terms of sort of censors trying to come in.

We had the, um, big videotape censorship scandal in the, in the UK

with the, uh, the whole concept of video nasties.

The efforts in the UK were to look at extreme movies,

and put a lot of these same boundaries

around these films

as you would around pornography titles.

So all of a sudden, you have the Evil Dead being treated the same way

as a woman blowing a donkey.

This fear that, that people were watching stuff like

Driller Killeron video in their homes

and they couldn't be trusted with this material.

And it was opening up their dark side,

and it would lead to copycat killings.

Horror and, and, and metal

really became co-defendants

in the Satanic Panic scandal of the late 1980s, early '90s,

[Eric] People use that phrase "Satanic Panic."

They always focus on the "Satanic" part.

But this was extreme or too extreme.

They never focus on the "Panic" part,

which is what it really was.

-[people screaming] -[Eric] People overreacting, misdirected...

...and spending all their energy freaking out

and not actually fixing a problem.

There was a real sense that if you watched

these things or were exposed to these things,

it was dangerous, and it twisted you and it made you into a monster.

Sometime around late 1984, early 1985,

a group of wives in Washington DC,

wives of very influential people,

business people, senators, congress people

were kind of having casual conversations about the concerns

about the content of music.

They thought the lyrics were, uh, too extreme.

They thought videos that were recorded for songs

were often too graphic to sexualize these type of things.

And their solution for this

was to create a group called the Parents Music Resource Center.

They came up with this list, called "The Filthy Fifteen,"

Half of that list is heavy metal artists.

So you had Black Sabbath. You had Judas Priest.

You had Moötley Cruüe, W.A.S.P., Venom,

AC/DC, Twisted Sister, Def Leppard, Mercyful Fate.

It culminated in September of 1985,

with hearings before the U. S. Senate Commerce Committee

to decide what should be done about this.

People went to jail over this stuff.

People were sued, people had incredible legal bills

because of this artwork they decided to put

on the inside sleeve of an album.

I mean, it destroyed people.

And it was all over nothing.

-You cannot legislate morality. -[man] Mr. Carter.

-Or music, or people's minds. -[man] There is no--

-But we'll bring you down, man. -[man] I have a teenage

-daughter. -We're here. We'll bring you down.

[heavy metal music]

In 1986, I was in a film called Trick or Treat,

with Ozzy Osbourne and Gene Simmons.

Two of the biggest names in heavy metal music brought a lot to the movie.

I think that's, you know, a big reason why people went the first place.

I don't think it was Skippy from Family Ties who was the big draw.

It was right at the height of that whole Tipper Gore,

anti-heavy metal music warning labels

on the album's trying to turn the tide of,

I don't know what she expected,

Pat Boone to come back into style or something.

I don't know. But, um, people forget

what a big deal that was at the time.

And so this movie tapped into that a little bit.

Eddie Ragman Weinbauer, he's not the cool kid.

He's the heavy metal nerd.

You know, he decked out the room and all the heavy metal posters,

and he had all the T-shirts and everything.

You know, the girls don't care about him and the guys

hate him, and everybody's picking on him,

and he's kind of feeling all alone.

And thenhishero comes back to life in his bedroom,

through the backward masking of the records and offers to help.

And how cool is that? Imagine that. Who doesn't want someone to help them

get back at their bullies?

I think people, uh, related to the Eddie character

'cause, uh, they were going through the same thing, you know?

They were the outsiders and the outcasts.

This movie gave them someone that was like them.

The impulse to express yourself and to explore pain,

suffering, transgression,

immorality, these are things that are in our essential makeup.

We are interested in our dark side

because without understanding our dark side, we can't control it.

Heavy metal music and horror films,

the people who are attracted to them, attracted to them because

what is mainstream and normal and popular doesn't work for them.

It doesn't frame the world that they feel.

It doesn't frame the world that they see.

It's a taboo thing that I think

connects with young people because they think

it's a conduit to something that they don't understand.

Or that they want to understand

and something they wanna see that they've been forbidden to see.

The, um, heavy metal music

and the horror genre in films

have an interesting relationship because they both pressed the evil side

of man.

The heavy metal artists are

pushing the frontier and pushing the envelope

of their craft and their gift,

and their creativity.

There is a dark side to heavy metal.

And there certainly is a dark side to the horror genre.

[Ron] The monster characters scared people.

First time seeing the phantom on a screen, or people change their looks.

They were shocking to people.

And I think the rock stars scared a lot of people,

certainly the generation before them.

Maybe that's why there's that affiliation and associations

with one another that they identify

to some degree, their genres.

Sometimes the shows are theatrical, like King Diamond,

like Alice Cooper, like Rob Zombie.

There is a visual feast that goes along

with the, the audio, uh, feast.

People like a show. And metal bands

and movies give people a show. It's escapism.

As long as there are kids in their teens going through angst,

there's gonna be aggressive music,

and there's gonna be aggressive imaging.

So between horror movies and metal,

that certainly plays a big part in it.

I think a lot of us in, who, who chose to play heavy metal,

uh, or hard rock are somewhat outcasts.

And I think we kind of look at these monsters as, as too.

But there's something that draws us together.

And f-- for me, that was one way of meeting people too.

Like, you're a horror fan. Great.

We're gonna get along just great. You like metal? Oh. Even better.

I think people wanna feel something.

They wanna feel something powerful,

and fear is one of those things.

And, you know, listening to music is such an elation.

And metal, especially, is so, you know, so angry.

When you're a kid, you know, that just feeling something

is so important for people who are fans of,

of metal and horror.

If you're the nerd in school, if you're having--

your parents are in your case, or the bullies beaten you up,

you can go watch a horror movie and, like, say like,

"If only this guy could be killed by Michael Myers."

Or listen to some heavy metal and just get that aggression out.

Or go into a wrestling character or something.

And there is a certain element of show business that's dark.

Heavy metal music, for the most part is, is made

for the same reasons that horror movies are made, it's to let loose.

It's to free that fear, it's to free that tension.

You are in this moment with, with heavy metal music, you know?

Like in the mosh pit.

You're just letting go of so much energy.

And so much emotion that should just been sitting on you all day.

You know, the escapism of heavy metal

is the same as the escapism of just sitting down with your friends

and watching a shit ton of fucking horror movies.

Which is honestly, there's nothing better than that, you know?

Metal is violent. Horror is violent.

Everybody likes fucking violence.

Violence gets people's dicks hard.

And when people's dicks are hard, they have fucking fun.

-And then we chop them off. -And then we chop your dick off.

There's some kind of an aggressive feeling in the music that

kind of goes with that feeling of superiority.

There's something very testosterone-driven about metal music.

And I think that if you're the killer,

if you're the monster,

you're in this place of massive total annihilating control.

And I think that that's one of the things that you feel as a player.

[Nameless Ghoul] Rock and roll is the devil.

And horror is the devil too,

so it's perfectly natural.

I think of heavy metal as really uncompromising.

You know, there are plenty of people who don't like heavy metal. So what?

There are plenty of people who don't like horror movies, and so what?

And I think that they share that sense of "We are what we are."

And the world we represent and are in is a very extreme one.

And it's not sweet and pretty like we'd like to pretend or some people wanna pretend.

Horror and metal work so well together

because of teenage boys. [chuckles]

We like scary stuff,

and we like heavy stuff. It's exciting.

The whole heavy metal sound again.

It's, uh, tempestuous guitars. A lot of them.

And the lyrics are usually

some form of rebellion and death, uh... danger.

And it's just slamming at you

with a beat, with a great beat. I mean, who doesn't love that?

Pop music can be with chick flicks or, or, or things like that, you know,

they just go hand in hand. But luckily, we got the horror.

[Jonathan] 'Cause I think it's just about ex-- being extreme.

Extreme gore, extreme being scared.

Extreme, it's just extreme.

Horror fans and metal fans just are looking for that fix,

and that's what, you know, metal and horror does.

You don't normally have extreme pop songs that shock people.

When you want something extreme,

you take it to the highest level it can go, which is heavy metal.

You can't just walk by a metal band playing and not, "Holy fuck! Whoa!"

You know, no matter what kind of music do you like, horror is the same thing.

We're the extreme edges of that art form.

It's a lot cooler in the outer limits. Join us.

I think there's a lot of, like, shock value with horror.

And I think with metal, it's also the same thing.

You wanna have that impact. They're gonna make you go to maybe a dark side

which everyone has and they don't like to go to.

But It's kind of make you realize

that this is a part of humanity that exists.

It's like all the dark,

unrestrained urges of destruction.

Yeah, you've got plenty of scary images.

And the more you try and escape yourself,

the more you'll see.

It just meshes well.

You know, if you have extremely intense scene

in a horror film where it has to be hard-driving,

scary and suspenseful and stuff,

I think metal music works well with it.

That music is aggressive and can be in your face.

And so can many good horror movies too.

If you're listening to a heavy metal album, it's a release.

People are in the mosh pit, they're, they're working out

their angst in a horror movie.

It's kind of the same thing. You see people getting,

you know, and you get all... [imitates pleasure]

...and, uh, in the end, you know it's not real.

It's-- That's, I think, the bottom line.

It's kind of like a fantasy.

A good heavy metal song...

...should be like a good horror movie, you know?

Exciting to watch or listen to with a lot of dynamics.

I'm not really sure where it's gonna take you,

but once you get there, you're glad to be there.

People are curious about the morbid,

skittish about the morbid,

and decided about the morbid,

and what is considered morbid.

But their fans out there of extreme bands

that play gore influence music,

that I think would like to live that lifestyle or whatnot.

So many different connections.

[Sid] The music and the horror genre

are defiant against society, okay?

And those things work together.

They're just totally opposed to anything conventional.

The real hardcore horror fans are,

you know, a niche. They're like a brotherhood. And fans of metal and hard rock

are very much the same. They kind of feel like a little bit

of an outcast and maybe don't get the attention or respect they deserve,

and I think they kind of gravitate towards each other, some.

[Tom] I did a music video with Dee Snider,

and Alice Cooper called "Be Chrool to Your Scuel."

And Alice talks about Dee Snider and himself being hard fanatics.

Every Saturday, they're at horror movies.

And so I see a connection in the heavy metal bands

of the people that I know and horror movies.

Horror is the dark side of, of, of movies or storytelling,

and I think our music is the dark side of everything as well.

Heavy metal has always been dark.

There's no puppy dogs and ice cream in heavy metal.

At least alive puppy dogs and ice cream without blood in it.

We want that aggression.

We want something that's almost, in a sense, scary.

You go to a Slayer show,

and the anticipation of that band coming on

when you're standing on the floor, where you know that pit is going to break out,

is very similar to sitting in a movie theater,

knowing that something's gonna happen

that's gonna scare the shit out of me.

As humans, I don't know why some of us crave

and need that in our lives.

But I'm just glad it's out there for us.

[chuckles]

Listen to the sound of metal.

It's so focused on tri tones

and tensions that, you know, it, it--

-What the fuck? -[man] We gotta go. Let's go.

All right. Well, we have to go. And what I'm trying to tell you

is that the sound of metal, metal sounds terrifying.

Movies are terrifying. That's the connection for me.

[Rob] For some reason, those two genres maybe just connected

because they just, they get no respect.

Which is fine because who cares? They're still here.

I think the future is a more cohesive bond.

Especially as movies become more appreciative and respectful

of, uh, rock and roll and heavy metal,

and industrial, all these different kinds of, uh, musics

as a soundtrack to stories.

I think when you take a look at the, uh, metal concept and the horror concept,

that they've intertwined so much over the last three decades

that they will never unwind. They'll always be together.

So you're going to see them continue to evolve and develop together.

To watch where they go and how they continue to grow,

I think it's gonna be exciting for all of us,

both as the actors and the performers, and as a fan.

You got to move forward. You can't just stay in the past.

You've got to move forward. It'll never stop because those are the main genres

that will appeal to, uh, the audience.

To keep the history alive, I think we need to embrace our fears.

If you talk about exorcising the demons that are inside yourself,

the best way to do that is to share them with other people.

[Dani] I think metal and horror will always be with us.

And when it starts fizzling out, people start running out of ideas,

it would just, you know, like everything go around in a circle

and we're back at square one again.

I think that horror and...

...heavy metal music are going to stay together forever.

There's that angst that everybody is drawn to.

These very dark images.

I think it's just,

just going to stay here forever.

And there you have it.

Metal and horror, a perfect match.

Any questions?

Um, a crossover between the two is fascinating and definitely unique.

Those attracted to the dark and aggressive

clearly found their outlets for expression and pleasure.

The two art forms go hand in hand, without question.

Well, I'm happy to hear you say that.

Your lesson is now complete.

So what happens now?

I give you the grand finale.

What's the grand finale?

[eerie music]

[music increases and fades out]

[scary music]

Hello,

from the other side.

[wet swipes]

[evil laugh]

[heavy metal music]

I just always liked being scared.

I like the creativity that's behind,

uh, being able to scare somebody.

Always loved a really good horror movie that could

kind of stick with you afterwards.

I just grew up watching that stuff at very young age

I know it's not very, you know, a "good parent thing to do." [chuckles]

They're thrilling. They're exciting.

-I mean, at certain times, they're suspense-- -Death metal!

And it's just a lot of fun to watch either way,

I think people like being scared,

and they all have this, um, dark side themselves

that a lot of people, you know, kind of keep hidden,

but it's kind of a way for them to let their dark side out.

Really like the old-school campy films and stuff.

But, um, John Carpenter's Halloween is what really got me into it

when I was like about eight years old and I just, like,

really absorbed the culture of horror and everything.

The scares, it's the shock value I'd have to say.

The villains are the best.

We've got Pinhead in the H,

Michael Myers in the O, Leatherface in the R,

Pennywise in the other R...

...Jason in the O, and Freddy in the R.

I like horror because... [scoffs] I like violence in general, pretty much.

It's just a way for me to be different than anyone else.

What I love about horror is the, it's the, it's like the roller coaster thing.

You're just enjoying that moment, that edge of fear.

I've thrown myself in there, you know?

It's been a taboo for the longest time, you know?

For the longest time, yeah. Then finally, when metal came,

metal was pretty taboo at the time,

and they just kind of like came together.

I love heavy metal. Uh, I don't know,

I've loved this since I was 12 years old.

It really gets your pum-- your blood pumping

and your, uh, your adrenaline going.

Just like watching a horror movie.

Uh, it's loud, it's extreme.

It just gets me in a certain mood, you know?

I listen to it, I feel energized.

I go into mosh pits. So, like, I love to have a music I move to.

You can't beat the shit out of somebody with Taylor Swift, all right?

Takes a lot of... [giggling] energy to do it.

The imagery goes together so well, I mean, look at the, uh,

covers of, like, old Iron Maiden album,

it's, it's straight up horror right there.

And they just go hand in hand. You put a horror movie on,

you could turn the, you could turn the sound off.

And put a, then put a record on horror,

you know, death metal or metal, whatever, it goes hand in hand.

They both kind of feel off-limits in a certain way, you know?

Like something that you're not supposed to be doing,

but, you know, you do anyways.

Favorite of all time? I would have to say

tie between An American Werewolf in London and the first Halloween.

I am a huge Black Sabbath fan.

It has to be Hellraiser. I'm all about Doug Bradley.

Iron Maiden, Metallica.

The Chucky series and the Freddy Krueger movies.

Maiden, oh yeah, Judas Priest.

Halloween,um, Evil Dead.

Deicide, Cannibal Corpse.

-Probably Alien. -Slipknot.

-[indistinct chatter in the background] -The Texas Chainsaw.

Bands like The Black Dahlia Murder and Dying Fetus.

-I will do that. [laughs] -Definitely Anthrax.

Friday the 13th.

You can't go wrong with that.

Alice Cooper, uh, King Diamond.

The Exorcist.[chuckles]

Metal guys, they always push themselves to, to break ground,

break new ground, break barriers.

I think horror does the same thing.

And when you put them together, it's fucking sex dude.

It's just pure sex.

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