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[Elijah Waldroup] For a man
to do what he has done,

it's not a man at all.

It's definitely a monster.

It's the worst
of the worst.

[Dotchi Latham]
Something bad
was gonna happen.

I could feel it.

What I found out later...

...was way worse than
anything I ever imagined.

I just try not
to think about it

because it's, like, holy crap,
that's horrible, that's evil.

What he did was, like,
the epitome of evil.

[Elijah] I don't think people
foresaw this thing coming.

But it was a perfect place.

People can't hear
you for miles.

You can scream,

and nobody can hear you.

[woman screaming]

[birds chirping]

[Drew Robinson]
Penny lived
in Meigs County,

It's a very rural hamlet.

One or two traffic light
kind of area.

[Latham] Penny and Brad met
when they were teenagers.

I know that she
got pregnant

and then they ended up
getting married.

Had three more kids.

[Elijah] Everybody says he
a man's man or whatever.

It's like that
male role model.

I mean, I didn't have that.

My mom, without her,
nothing in my life
could have happened.

The area was pretty rural.

Not a lot of stuff to do.

It was just, like, me
and my sisters.

Like, all we could do
is just play outside.

Most people nowadays
play on their phones,
stuff like that.

We didn't have
stuff like that.

So, it was just whatever
we could get into
pretty much as kids.

Chelsea's the oldest,

and then it goes Ashley
then me then Emily.

I mean, three sisters,
so, kind of the outcast,

but, I mean, it is what it is,

and it made, it made me
definitely a better person.

It's, like, natural
big brother instincts
for a lot of things.

So, I mean,
it's definitely played
a part in my life a lot.

[Latham] Leslie would
talk about Penny

as her best friend.

They've known each
other for years,

ever since childhood.

[Elijah] She was a kind woman.

She was nice. She always
looked after us.

She had a bunch
of kids as well

so, I mean, we would
always have fun over there.

Leslie's house was
definitely our safe haven.

Hi, ladies!

-[Leslie] Pen!
-How are y'all?

[Leslie] Good,
it's so good to see you.

[Penny] You too,
I've missed you.

[Leslie] Oh,
I've missed you too.

-[Latham] Hello.
-Hi, Dotchi.

[Latham] I met Penny
through Leslie.

She just talked about her...

...in such high regard

that I was really curious
and wanted to meet Penny.

And when I finally did,
I was, like,

"Oh, man, she is so cool.
She is, like, so sweet.

Such a wonderful person."

Like, she is so friendly,
so kind, so caring,

so compassionate.

And you could tell that
she loved her kids.

She took great care
of them.

Penny had issues
with Brad.

I had issues
with my husband,

and our safe place to go
was to Leslie's

and that's where we went
to hang out together,

and just to get away.

[Leslie] Is Bradley
on the drink again?

I don't wanna talk about it.

She was a fun person,

but you could also see
the sadness in her eyes.

Like, I could feel
the sadness sometimes.

She was going through a lot.

Brad seemed very
domineering,

just, like, very angry
all the time,

And he seemed mean,

very controlling.

He would tell Penny
what to do, not ask her.

He would just,
"Do as I say,"

and it was just,
it was really creepy.

Leslie and I talked
about it a little bit,

and she said that he had
been abusive to Penny
for quite a while.

You know you can come stay
with me any time, right?

Brad ain't coming here.

I feel like Leslie wasn't
really scared of my dad.

I feel like that's
what's kind of, like,

uh, intimidated him
a little bit.

'Cause it was, like,

somebody that's not going
to, you know, cower away.

[Brad] Why are you
staying here so long?

[Penny] I'm having
dinner with my friends.

[Brad] Having dinner, huh?
You didn't come home.

You need to come home now!

[Latham] One time when
I was over at Leslie's house,

Penny was there because
he had kicked her out.

And he showed up...

[Penny] Get your
hands off me, Brad!

[Latham] Brad, stop it!
You're gonna kill her!

...and all I heard was,
um, yelling,

and when I went out there,

he was holding Penny
down strangling her,

and poor Penny
was turning purple

and couldn't really
do anything about it

because he's so much
stronger and bigger
than she is.

Brad, stop! You're gonna
kill her. Stop it!

Leslie actually jumped on him
to get him to let go of her.

I had never seen her, like,

just straight-up
attack somebody

to get them off of Penny.

I was surprised,

but not surprised
at the same time

because she loved
Penny very much.

[Elijah] She was very
protective of my mom.

She didn't want her
to get hurt.

Definitely the type of friend
that you'd want to have.

[birds chirping]

[Brad] Sweetheart,

can we talk about this?

So, when somebody's
being abused,

a lot of times,

the guy will
treat them horribly,

but then come back
and say, "I'm so sorry

and here's flowers,
and I'll do better,"

and they'll say that
they're going to improve,

and it's, like,
"Hey, this isn't so bad

because of all these
good times

and he really does love me

and, look, he gave me flowers

and he bought me a new shirt

and I'm feeling pretty good."

[Brad] I'll be better,

I promise.

[Latham] "He had
a little bit of an episode,

but that's not really him."

And they don't see that
that's also part of the abuse.

I was just drinking a lot
is all, lately, and...

...I love you.

[Robinson] Like most people

involved in a relationship
like that,

they want change.

They don't want to divorce.
They have four children.

And they wanna
try and make it work.

[Penny] It's okay, baby.

How would I explain this?

It's like when you get
into a routine or something,

it makes things
a little bit easier.

Even though it's
messed up as it sounds,

it's, like, we were
so used to it.

And like I said,
during that time

it was, like, we didn't
know any better.

I believe that she
honestly did love him.

She put up with all that
for so many years,

and was hoping
he would change,

but of course, he didn't.

And he just got worse.

[Brad] Well, how's it
I'm not getting better?

[Penny] What do you mean,
Brad? You drank last night.

[Latham] One day,
Penny had enough,

and she just decided
that that was it

and she needed to leave,
and she wanted a divorce.

Leslie was very
supportive of that.

Helped her fill out
the paperwork,

and get the paperwork,

and file for the divorce
and everything.

Once she put her foot down,
he ended up moving out

to his grandma's over
on Kimsey Mountain.

[Robinson] I think she
was just tired.

I think she had
had enough.

And she was working,

she had bought a van,

she had saved her money.

She was just out
and out tired of it.

[Elijah]
It's really out there.

You could scream all day

and nobody would
hear you out there.

[Latham] He was not
happy about the divorce.

He was threatening her.

He would alternate between,
"I'm gonna kill you"

and, "I'm gonna make your
life a total living hell."

[Robinson] I think
when domestic abuse

gets to the point where
somebody hits the button
and says,

"No, that's it, I'm going
to get a divorce,"

I think that sends it
to another stage,

and that's where
I think this was.

[Robinson]
They have an agreement

that they would do
shared parenting.

They would do some sort
of shared parenting,

and it was his weekend
with the children.

What time do you
think you'll be there?

About 6:30.

[Latham] Penny had to take
the kids to Brad that weekend.

She was gonna
drop them off,

but she was afraid
to go by herself,

so Leslie told me that
she felt like she had to.

Like, this was her fate,
this is what she was here for,

and she wanted to go.

I really wish we didn't
have to go up there.

We were all scared
at that point

because we didn't know
what he was gonna do.

We had heard that he
was going to kill Penny,

and so we were
pretty terrified.

And we couldn't go
to the police

because the police
wouldn't help.

They just said
that's a civil problem.

[sighs] Do you have to go?

It'll be so much
worse if I don't.

Shouldn't take us long.
No more than an hour.

There's nothing
to stress about, I promise.

Since Leslie was going
with Penny,

she needed somebody
to watch her kids,

and so I told her that
I would come over.

[Penny] Thank you.

Both of you.

I really appreciate it.

[Latham] We got this.

She told me that
she would call me

right before they
turned off the highway,
and I said, "Okay."

Then she said, "Because after
we turn off the highway,

there's no
cell-phone signal.

If we don't call
back in, like,

30 minutes to an hour,

then go ahead
and call the cops."

Penny knew she was going
to a remote area.

Very limited
cellular phone service.

So, you can be out
of cellular service range

for, you know,
an hour.

She expected
to have a problem.

[Latham] I had a paper
that I wrote down

both of their
cellphone numbers,

the kids' names,
the birth dates,

the vehicle, the make, model,

color, licence plate number,

anything that
could identify them.

Just in case.

Penny and Leslie both said
that they should be back,

by, like, 7:00, 7:30.

7:30 at the latest.

Thanks again, Dotchi.

We'll see you
in a little bit.

Come on, kids, let's go!

[phone ringing]

[Latham] She called,
and she was, like,

"Okay, we're at this point..."

That sounds good. I'll see
you when you get back.

The part that kind
of haunts me to this day,

is that one of the last
phone calls

that I had with her,

she said,
"If I get back."

We both knew that something
bad was gonna happen.

[Robinson] When I
was in private practice,

if there was gonna be
a contentious exchange
of children,

I would tell my clients

to take somebody with you.

Leslie was her best friend,

which is why she took Leslie.

Ugh. When are we
gonna get there?

It's taking forever.

[Robinson] The area
in Kimsey Mountain

is far from civilization,

and, you know,
hindsight's 20-20.

Thinking about Penny,
thinking about those kids,

and thinking about Leslie,

that's gotta be
horrible to know

that I'm here, and there's
nothing I can...

I can't scream,

there's nothing I can do.

I couldn't imagine
at that age

witnessing what
those kids witnessed.

[Elijah] After you leave
the interstate on that trip

up there to his house...

Nothin'. Absolutely nothin'.

Just a bunch
of windy back roads.

You can't go too fast
down 'em.

There's just straight
gravel, mud...

I remember when we
pulled up, Mom was, like,

"All right, kids, go
bring in the luggage,"
and stuff like that.

So, me and my sisters
and everybody,

we started unpacking
everything from the van.

Loaded it into the house.

Go on inside, kids.

I gotta chat with your
mom for a few...

[Elijah] He was
definitely a little impaired,

and he had a rifle.

He was pretty upset that day.

He was definitely drinkin'.

What's the gun for, Brad?

[Brad laughing]

Funny thing,

just found out we got
a mama bear lurking around.

And I'm gonna shoot
her in the face.

We've really got to get going.

Oh, is that so?

Just let it go,
will you, Brad?

You know, I think you've
been poisoning this marriage
from the start.

Let's all just take a breath.

We really have to get going.

Just back off,
will you?

[Robinson] Leslie was
not afraid of him.

She was a friend
to Penny.

She was a shoulder
for Penny,

and she'd stick
up for Penny.

Look, how about I come back
Sunday morning just me,

and I'll make little
cakes for everyone

and you and me will talk
this whole thing out, okay?

[Brad] Is that right?

-Brad, stop, I have to get
Leslie back to her kids.
-[Brad] Oh, yeah?

-Oh, yeah?
-[Penny] Stop!

[Brad shouting] Oh, yeah?

Hey?

[Elijah] I don't
know why I looked out
the window, honestly.

Uh, just bad timing.

Just my dad
with the rifle raised.

Um, definitely upset.

Screaming.

Cussing.

And then,

bang.

[gunshot]

[Latham] They were
gonna call me, like,

every 30 minutes to an hour.

And she called every
30 minutes to an hour,

and then when she didn't...

...I knew something was wrong.

I was getting ready
to call the police...

...and I had this
moment where

all of a sudden
I wasn't there anymore.

Um...

...I was laying on the ground

looking underneath
the vehicle,

and I felt like
I couldn't breathe.

And all of a sudden,
it just,

just everything
started going dark,

and it just, kind of,
like, went like this,

and just, poof, it was gone.

And then I was
back on the porch,
and I was, like...

...I knew that was Leslie.

Like, I felt it, and I
knew that it was her.

But I didn't understand,
like, what I was seeing.

And I was, like,

"Oh, my God, I did,
that was Leslie.

She was sending me
a message, I just know it."

Like, that was her way
of getting me to call

because that's what prompted
me to call the police.

Uh, yes, hello.

My name is Dotchi Latham.

I'm really worried
about my friends.

Can you send somebody
up to check on 'em?

They're up
on Kimsey Mountain.

And the lady was, like,

"Oh, okay, we'll send
somebody out eventually,

you know, once we have
an officer available."

[Robinson] She had
called and said,

"My friend said if I'm
not back by 7:30,

to call you all
to do a welfare check

or to go to see
what's going on."

But they were not running
sirens or running red lights,

'cause there would
be no need to

'cause they didn't
think the worst.

[coughing]

Leslie?
Leslie, wake up.

Leslie?

Leslie!

She was definitely trying

to get her to get up
and run with her.

Leslie, wake up!
Get up!

Get up, we have to go.
Leslie!

Penny realized that
Leslie was not,

was not moving at all,

and realized there
was a serious problem.

[Penny whimpering]
Leslie, get up!
We have to go.

And then my mom
started running.

I remember he shot
her in the back...

[gunshot]

[Elijah] ...and, uh, she fell.

I remember screaming
and crying

and a bunch of emotions.

In the time, I think
I was just terrified.

I was, like, "I don't
want my mom to die."

[Latham] The closer it got

to when they were
supposed to be home,

I started getting
really anxious.

My stomach hurt
from the stress.

Like, I feel helpless.

Like, I know that she's...

something bad has happened.

I would set the timer
for 15 minutes,

and I would wait
very anxiously.

[timer rings]

Then at the end of 15 minutes,
I'd call Penny,

I'd call Leslie,

I'd call dispatch.

Um, yes, this is
Dotchi Latham, again.

That's right,
Kimsey Mountain.

Okay, well when can
someone get out there?

And she said,
"We'll send somebody out

when there's
somebody available."

Okay.

I just kept waiting, like,

hoping that they
would call me,

and that all of this was just

me worrying
and being ridiculous.

[crickets chirping]

[distant gunshot]

[Brad panting]

[Robinson] When Penny fell,

she managed to get back up

and try to start
running again.

She kept running,
kept running...

[Penny panting]

[Elijah] She started
running up the ridge line

from behind the house.

I remember that.

[Robinson] She would
have never made it
to the neighbors.

There's absolutely no way
she'd have been able

to run that far

or get to within
screaming range.

She was just trapped.

She was just trapped.

[gunshot]

[Elijah] He was still
shooting her in the back.

Eventually he shot so
many times that he ran out.

[Brad] Come here, honey.

[Elijah] There was a creek...

...on one side
of the house.

I remember he drug
her over there.

His rifle was empty, so,
he went to his pocket knife.

He was tryin'
to cut her throat.

I mean, this monster.

That's what he is.

[Penny whimpering]

[Brad groaning]

[Elijah] I remember...

...my dad pulled
out a machete.

He was chopping up my mom
with this just nasty blade.

[Penny screaming] No!

[machete thumping]

Seeing my sisters...

...all of them were
crying, screaming.

I mean, I was the same way.

Crying, screaming,

I mean, we were just kids.

All of us kids thought
that was the last time

that we were gonna
see our mom.

[Penny screaming]

[Penny] I felt
just kinda hopeless.

I was thinking,
"I'm gonna die."

At that point,
I kinda just

turned around
and looked at him

and faced him,

and threw my hands up,
like this...

...because he was hacking
me up with a machete...

-Please!
-[Brad grunting]

...and I just started
begging him to stop.

And, um,

of course,
he actually responded.

He stopped with the machete,
he stopped,

and then...

...um, he knocked me
down on the ground again,

and...

...he kicked me,

and then he grabbed me
by the hair of the head,

and he drags me...

...to Leslie's body.

[Brad] Come on,
what are you taking
so long for, huh?

Now get up!

Now!

And he's like,
"Look what you caused.

Look what she's caused."

And then he starts
kicking Leslie's body...

...and then he hacked her
in the back of the head

with the machete
several times.

[Brad grunting]

[Penny] It enraged me.

I was filled with anger...

[Penny whimpering]

...then he dragged me
inside the home.

And at that point,

um...

I was thinking I was dead.

You know, that he was
really gonna kill me.

You know, like, he had me.

I remember, um...

[exhaling deeply]

...when Mom came
into the house

she was all bloodied.

[Penny breathing heavily]

[sobbing] No!

[sobbing]

[Elijah] She had cuts
like all down her arms.

Her head was bleeding.

She...

...looked like something
straight from a horror movie.

Seeing Mom like that,

like, all mangled,
it was messed up.

Um, even to this day...

...thinking about
that, it's...

...no one should ever
see their mom like that.

No one should see
anybody like that.

[Penny sobbing]

It's okay, it's okay,
it's okay.

I love you.

He told me to tell
the children, "Get back."

I was allowed
to give them a hug...

...and tell the children
that I loved them.

That was the very, um...

...scary and hard part...

...because I didn't know

if that was going
to be my last time
seeing my children.

I had so many different

thoughts going
through my head.

[Elijah] Everybody was
just kind of giving up hope
at that point.

I knew that we were...

...that it was going
to be it for us.

Uh, 100% without
a shadow of doubt
in my mind,

I knew he was
gonna kill us all.

There in that room
and then himself.

So, everybody anticipated
it to happen at any point.

[Penny] It's okay, it's okay!

I love you.

Okay? It's okay.

[Brad shouting] That's enough!

You've said your goodbyes.

[Penny] It's okay.

[whimpering]

[crying] Why is Daddy
being so mean?

I am Satan, kids.

[Elijah] My Dad is 100% evil.

Things that he said
that night.

I wouldn't say I'm the most
religious person,

but that was...

...that was something
straight from, like,

you know, down there,
uh, it was...

...just crazy.

[Penny] He said
he was the devil,

and he was here
to do the devil's work.

A very chilling thing
to say to a 10-year-old.

[daughter] Daddy, please!

I'm not your dad anymore.

My children was the main
thing that kept me going...

...because I knew that I had
to get them out of there.

Mom.

Kids, it's okay,
let's go to your room.

-Please!
-[Penny] Mommy
and Daddy are gonna,

Mommy and Daddy are
gonna talk for a little bit.

Mom, don't go.

[Penny] I'll be right there.

[breathing heavily]

[whispering] Baby.

You're not the devil, baby.

You're not the devil.

You're not the devil, baby.

I looked at him
and I was, like...

"...What led you to this?

Like, I don't understand.

You know, you say
you love me,

but you're wanting
to kill me?"

And I was, like,
so confused, you know,

and in my mind I was thinking,

"If I could just talk to him,

and get him to start
conversation with me,

then maybe it would
de-escalate him
and distract him."

And 'cause in the back
of my mind,

I knew at some point,

Dotchi was gonna call 911.

[timer rings]

[Latham] I called
the dispatcher repeatedly.

[officer on phone]
Polk County
Sheriff's Department.

What is going?

[officer] Ma'am, someone
will be out there--

Someone needs to get
over there.

[officer] Ma'am, we'll
have someone out there

for a welfare check
as soon as an officer
becomes available.

He's dangerous, okay?

I understand that
there's only so much
that they can do,

but just... I knew
how urgent it was,

and it just felt like
I was being dismissed.

Like "Oh, it'll be fine,

we'll send somebody
out in a minute."

You know, I'm just like,
"No, like, this is urgent.

Like, they haven't come back,

and she hasn't called,

and I'm very worried,

and I really need you to,
like, go check on them."

Okay, please, all right,
she could be in danger.

Okay, he beats her.

[officer] Yes, ma'am,
I understand,

-we'll have someone--
-[flip phone closing]

[Latham] But at that
point, I was like,

"Oh, they're getting
irritated with me.

They're tired of me calling."

But I'm going to stop
calling because those
are my friends,

and I want to make
sure they're okay.

I knew that something
bad had happened.

It was the not knowing,

and not knowing
how bad it was

that hurt the most.

Um...

...the wondering.

You're not the devil, baby.

You don't know me.

None of you know me.

[Penny] Come on, I know you.

I know you better
than anyone.

I was just, in my mind,
I was just trying anything

to keep him from
getting more angry.

[Brad] Let's get
this over with.

[Penny whimpering]
It doesn't have
to end like this.

No?

[Penny] It doesn't
have to be like this.

[scoffing]

Remember everything
we've been through.

I would bring
up the good times.

Nights when we would dance
in the kitchen together,
you know.

Then I was like,
"We still have that,

that's still there."

You know, I would say
stuff like that to him.

I'll always love you.

We always get
back together.

[Robinson] She used her wits

in communicating with Brad,
in talking to him,

throughout this whole process,

and she did a lot
of things to stall for time.

[Penny] I definitely
was running on adrenaline.

I was in total
survival mode.

Started feeling,
like, really weak...

...and dizzy-like

because where I was
losing so much blood.

And things went black.

So, I kind of passed out.

Whenever I come to,

he would be standing over me,

and laughing, and he's, like,

"That's what I want to see
is you die slowly."

He, um, at one point

said he was going
to keep me alive
for a whole weekend,

um, just to see me suffer.

[Brad] How about one last
time before you go, huh?

[Penny] He decided that...

...he was going to

take me into the bedroom
and have sex with me.

[Brad grunts]

[Penny]
I didn't fight with him.

I was really weak,
and I was dizzy,

and I was kinda
wobbly walking.

And so he shoves me
down on the bed...

...and he takes
my shirt off of me...

...and starts to go
kissing on me.

At the moment when
he was kissing me,

I was enraged.

Not only was I angry,
but I was disgusted.

And then I just,
I felt such anger

going through me, like,
I just wanted to hit him.

Like, I just wanted to fight
him, physically fight him.

But I was scared.

And I felt like I was frozen.

[daughter]
Mommy! Mommy!

And that's when Chelsea
yells, and says,

"Mom, there's someone here.

There's headlights."

So, Brad gets up off of me,

and goes into the living room,

and starts looking
out the window.

And Brad had the shotgun...

...in his hands,

and then he opens
the front door up,

looks out and I looked
at the gun,

and I looked at him,

and then I barged
through that door...

...and I took off running.

Help me! Help me!

I ran so hard.

And the closer I got
to the headlights,

that's when I realized
it was the police.

[Penny screaming]

Oh, my God.

[Elijah]
I remember the officer.

I guess he was in shock, too,

'cause I don't remember
his pistol drawn or anything.

I just remember him
just in shock.

[Penny] Help me!

-Help me!
-Get in the back,
get in the back.

-In the back.
-[Penny] My husband,

-he's on, he's...
-What's going on?

[Robinson] He was
a relatively new officer,

and he was the first
officer on the scene,

and he came without backup

because he was just
doing a welfare check.

This is Officer Price
requesting backup
at Kimsey Mountain.

[sobbing] He's home,
my husband.

And I started telling
the officer, I was, like,

"He has a gun,
he killed Leslie."

You know, I started
running through it.

I'm gonna get you
to the hospital as
fast as I can.

Oh, no, no, my children!

My children,
my children are inside.

We have to go back.

[Price whispering]
Oh, my God.

[Penny] And he's, like,
"I need to get backup,"

and then I was, like,
"But you're my only hope.

If we leave, he might
kill the kids."

[panting]

[Price] Officer
requesting assistance.

One armed suspect.

[Penny screaming]

I had so many thoughts
going through my head.

I thought, "Oh, my gosh,
if he kills this officer..."

I was so scared.

[thud]

[Elijah] He just gave up.

He knew that...

...he was about to go
away for a long time.

[Penny] I kinda just
curled up in a ball.

And then other people
started coming.

[distant police sirens]

[Penny] I couldn't really
make out everything

that was being said,

and then after
what seemed like forever,

finally someone comes
to the cop car

and opens the door,

and they helped me
to the ambulance.

The pictures of Penny

in the condition
she was in,

that will always
stick in my mind.

She was wrapped
in a towel that had
blood all over it,

and she was just
staring into space

with a look that I had
never seen before, like,

vacant, her eyes,
she was in shock.

She was still
in shock, I'm sure.

[Brad] Penny!

It's not over.

Just wait and see.

Just wait and see!

When they were loading
me up in the ambulance,

he was screaming
that he would be
back for me.

His words, I believe him.

[Latham] The last time
I called them,

and understand I had been
calling them every 15 minutes

up to this point...

...I was like, "Look,
would you just tell
me something?"

And she said, "There's
an officer at the scene,

and somebody will be there
to talk to you shortly."

[voice breaking]
At that moment,

pretty much all
of the inner denial of,

"No, everything's
gonna be fine..."

...was kind of crushed.

Pretty much all of my
hope had been dashed.

Once I found out
that Penny was alive,

it was such a relief...

...and, uh...

...that was really hard.

[Robinson] She was
shot numerous times.

Cuts, had her finger
sliced off by a machete.

It was just, it was just
total carnage.

[Latham] Seeing her
wrapped up in bandages...

...kind of made it all real.

I remember when I went in,

I sat down and I tried
to hold her hand,

but I was afraid to touch
her because she's just, like,

bandaged and bloody,

and I didn't want
to wake her up either,

so, I just kind of, like,
sat there until she woke up.

She looked at me,

and I will remember this
until the day I die,

she looked at me
with these very sad eyes,

like, you could see
the pain in her eyes.

[sobbing]

[Penny] I remember her

telling me that it was okay,

you know, and we cried.

And she's, like, "I'm just
glad that you survived

and your children survived."

She was crying
and she's, like,

"I just wish I could've
saved her, too."

[Latham] She said she
would've given up,

but she knew that somebody
would was gonna be there
eventually

because she knew
that I was calling...

...and that kind of made
me feel better.

[Penny] She was definitely
my hero that day.

If she had not had called
911, I would not be here.

[Elijah] That night,
all of us kids,

we spent the night
over at the county jail.

I remember the blood
on my hands.

Uh, looking down
and seeing 'em.

I remember washing my hands,

just so much blood.

It was a lot of trauma.

More than just physical,

it's a lot of mental
trauma, too.

[footsteps]

[Elijah] I remember
hearing my dad come in.

Like, through the back
of the county jail...

[sniffling]
...and was screaming...

[Brad shouting]
This isn't over, I'm gonna
kill all of you.

You just wait and see!

[Robinson] I've tried a number
of murder cases since then,

and this was probably

the most gruesome case
that I had ever seen.

At trial,

they came up with the warrior
gene defense,

which was kind of novel,
it was new.

It said that certain males

have this gene...

...and therefore they have
a propensity toward violence

with the least provocation.

"He couldn't help himself."

And that's, basically,
what that defense is.

"He couldn't help himself."

Based on the verdict,

the jury may have
bought a lot of that.

But the voluntary
manslaughter

of Leslie Bradshaw

was the portion
of the verdict

that astounded me.

I don't see how
you can call that

a voluntary manslaughter.

Leslie's family
was very, very upset

with the voluntary
manslaughter charge.

[Latham] It makes me so angry.

It's, like, he deserved
to stay in prison forever.

[Elijah] My dad, he messed
up the life of nine kids.

Five of Leslie's,

and me and my sisters.

His sentence
is way too light.

I'm gonna live a lot longer

than he's going
to be, like, in prison.

And I'm going to be living
with what he did forever.

[Penny]
I am terrified of him...

...getting out.

I think that the day
that he is released
from incarceration

that society is in trouble.

Leslie was more than just
my best friend,

she was like my family,
she was my sister.

She was my support,

she was my go to.

He took that away.

There's a part of me
wants to think

that's the reason
why he did that.

Because he knows that would
hurt me more than anything.

It's, um, a really
deep hurt...

...that I cannot explain.

Knowing that she lost her life

because she was my friend.

I created Leslie
Helping Hands

in remembrance of Leslie,

and it's to fill in the gaps

for domestic violence victims.

I've helped people
get to shelters,

to get furniture,
beddings,

you name it.

It's really rewarding
to see that.

And it's more rewarding
to know that they're safe.

I named it after her

because in remembrance of her

because I know Leslie,
she would've wanted that.

She was about giving
and helping.