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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:21,649 --> 00:00:23,780 Good afternoon, my beautiful kings and queens. 2 00:00:23,859 --> 00:00:26,649 It is Wednesday, April 8, 2015. 3 00:00:26,730 --> 00:00:29,940 Hopefully, you are out there or were out there this morning 4 00:00:30,019 --> 00:00:32,479 doing something productive, successful, 5 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,640 something that is going to help establish your kingdom and queendom. 6 00:00:35,729 --> 00:00:41,810 Today, "Sandy Speaks" is going to focus directly on my white people. 7 00:00:42,350 --> 00:00:45,229 White people. Yes. 8 00:00:45,310 --> 00:00:48,060 Black people know that all lives matter. 9 00:00:48,149 --> 00:00:50,729 But what I need you guys to understand is that 10 00:00:50,810 --> 00:00:54,310 being a black person in America is very, very hard. 11 00:00:54,399 --> 00:00:57,729 I am not a racist. I grew up in Villa Park, Illinois, 12 00:00:57,810 --> 00:01:01,390 was the only black girl on an all-white cheerleading squad, so I had to learn 13 00:01:01,479 --> 00:01:04,269 how to deal with white people. 14 00:01:04,980 --> 00:01:08,060 But I want the white folks to really understand out there, 15 00:01:08,150 --> 00:01:09,730 not all of us, but some of us, 16 00:01:09,810 --> 00:01:11,390 are really doing as much as we can. 17 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,650 And we can't help but get pissed off when we see situations 18 00:01:14,730 --> 00:01:17,349 where it's clear the black life didn't matter. 19 00:01:17,439 --> 00:01:21,730 Because in the news that we've seen as of late, 20 00:01:21,810 --> 00:01:27,230 you could stand there, surrender to the cops, and still be killed. 21 00:01:27,810 --> 00:01:29,849 ♪ ♪ 22 00:01:37,729 --> 00:01:41,150 Sheriff's Deputy: On Friday, July 10, Ms. Bland was stopped 23 00:01:41,229 --> 00:01:43,900 by the Texas Department of Public Safety 24 00:01:43,979 --> 00:01:46,189 for a traffic infraction. 25 00:01:48,349 --> 00:01:52,520 The state trooper arrested Bland for assault of a public servant, 26 00:01:52,599 --> 00:01:56,310 then transported Ms. Bland to the Waller County jail. 27 00:02:00,019 --> 00:02:04,269 On Monday, July 13, at 8:58 a.m. 28 00:02:04,349 --> 00:02:07,269 jailers went to cell 95 29 00:02:07,349 --> 00:02:12,520 and observed Ms. Bland hanging from her privacy partition in her cell. 30 00:02:15,060 --> 00:02:17,520 The Harris County of Texas medical examiner's office 31 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:21,020 listed the manner of death as a suicide. 32 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,030 However, there may be some questions that cannot be answered, 33 00:02:26,099 --> 00:02:29,599 since this investigation is yet to be completed. 34 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,560 Shanté Needham: Ooh, Lord have mercy. 35 00:02:38,020 --> 00:02:39,060 Okay. 36 00:02:41,099 --> 00:02:42,520 Ooh! 37 00:02:44,979 --> 00:02:47,099 Sharon Cooper: Oh, here we go. Here we go. 38 00:02:50,060 --> 00:02:53,099 Aw, man. It looks better in person. 39 00:02:53,770 --> 00:02:55,150 Wow. 40 00:02:58,270 --> 00:03:00,020 Shanté: Hey, girl! 41 00:03:00,099 --> 00:03:02,599 Sharon: I just can't get over, like, how surreal it looks, you know? 42 00:03:08,599 --> 00:03:10,099 Okay, sister. 43 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,599 Losing you has been the hardest thing that... 44 00:03:14,439 --> 00:03:20,770 I thought I would ever have to go through, but I feel like it's made me a stronger person. 45 00:03:21,689 --> 00:03:26,439 So this is our letter that we wrote to the attorney general. 46 00:03:26,939 --> 00:03:33,110 And it says, "My name is Sharon Cooper, and I am Sandra Bland's sister. 47 00:03:33,189 --> 00:03:37,069 "My sister Sandra, affectionately known as Sandy, 48 00:03:37,150 --> 00:03:42,150 "was a vibrant, outspoken, and intelligent 28-year-old who was absolutely full of life. 49 00:03:42,770 --> 00:03:45,439 "Since Sandra's death, we have been in mourning, 50 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,020 "but candidly, our ability to mourn has been paralyzed 51 00:03:49,099 --> 00:03:53,520 "by the unusual and unsettling circumstances surrounding her death. 52 00:03:53,599 --> 00:03:55,639 That is why I am writing to you." 53 00:03:57,020 --> 00:03:59,020 Shanté: You've got a lot of people that's 54 00:03:59,099 --> 00:04:01,389 down here standing with you and us. 55 00:04:01,479 --> 00:04:03,729 People you know, people you don't know. 56 00:04:03,810 --> 00:04:06,060 A lot of people who you don't know. 57 00:04:06,770 --> 00:04:09,229 Sharon: I don't think Officer Encinia knew whose you were 58 00:04:09,310 --> 00:04:12,139 and who you belong to when he pulled you over. 59 00:04:12,900 --> 00:04:14,569 Well, each day, 60 00:04:15,349 --> 00:04:18,139 you let him know what a mistake he made. 61 00:04:18,860 --> 00:04:20,899 We're going to get to the bottom of it. 62 00:04:22,019 --> 00:04:23,980 No matter how long it takes. 63 00:04:26,019 --> 00:04:29,019 And we gonna change history, just like you wanted to. 64 00:04:30,649 --> 00:04:33,360 An innocent daughter's life was snatched, 65 00:04:33,439 --> 00:04:35,649 in a building right behind us. 66 00:04:36,189 --> 00:04:39,069 This is no longer just a Ferguson issue. 67 00:04:39,149 --> 00:04:40,980 It is not just a Baltimore issue. 68 00:04:41,060 --> 00:04:42,600 (protesters chanting) 69 00:04:42,689 --> 00:04:45,189 This is an American issue. 70 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,310 And we will not go away until it is answered. 71 00:04:48,399 --> 00:04:51,480 (protesters chanting) 72 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,350 -Protesters: Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 73 00:04:53,439 --> 00:04:55,060 - Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 74 00:04:55,149 --> 00:04:56,610 - Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 75 00:04:56,689 --> 00:04:57,899 Won't you say her name! 76 00:04:57,980 --> 00:05:00,519 Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! 77 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,519 Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! 78 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:03,889 (chanting fades) 79 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,600 ♪ ♪ 80 00:05:17,100 --> 00:05:21,350 Geneva Reed-Veal: The trip Sandy and I took over the Fourth of July weekend. 81 00:05:23,439 --> 00:05:25,610 She made all of this music for Mom... 82 00:05:28,769 --> 00:05:32,560 to sit in the car, and dance, laugh, 83 00:05:32,649 --> 00:05:34,279 sing... 84 00:05:35,399 --> 00:05:37,899 and when she was driving, 85 00:05:37,980 --> 00:05:41,600 Sandy kept talking about going back to Texas. 86 00:05:42,769 --> 00:05:46,600 She said, "Now I know what I'm supposed to be doing." 87 00:05:48,189 --> 00:05:52,610 She talked about this almost the whole ride. 88 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,180 She kept saying, "My purpose is to go back to Texas, 89 00:06:00,269 --> 00:06:03,980 and to stop all of the injustices against blacks." 90 00:06:04,060 --> 00:06:06,100 ♪ ♪ 91 00:06:10,939 --> 00:06:15,060 Sandy called me on July 11... 92 00:06:16,310 --> 00:06:19,689 to let me know that she had been arrested. 93 00:06:20,730 --> 00:06:23,230 I said, "What are you in jail for?" 94 00:06:23,310 --> 00:06:25,939 She said, "You know, I really don't know." 95 00:06:26,019 --> 00:06:31,399 And she said, "My arm, my arm is hurting really bad." 96 00:06:32,189 --> 00:06:36,069 And I could hear her talking to the guards in the background. 97 00:06:36,149 --> 00:06:38,529 Then she said, "I'll call you back." 98 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,060 And she hung up the phone, 99 00:06:42,149 --> 00:06:44,480 and she never called back. 100 00:06:47,810 --> 00:06:50,480 I wouldn't wish this hurt on anyone. 101 00:06:51,649 --> 00:06:53,439 Anyone. 102 00:06:59,269 --> 00:07:01,350 (chattering) 103 00:07:05,019 --> 00:07:09,980 R. Glenn Smith: Monday morning, when Ms. Bland was found in her cell, 104 00:07:10,060 --> 00:07:14,939 and the ambulance and medical help was being called, 105 00:07:15,019 --> 00:07:16,689 then I was notified. 106 00:07:18,649 --> 00:07:21,189 When I walked back to the cell, 107 00:07:21,269 --> 00:07:24,899 the justice of the peace was already here. 108 00:07:24,980 --> 00:07:27,019 ♪ ♪ 109 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,680 It's a devastating call... to the Texas sheriff. 110 00:07:32,769 --> 00:07:35,310 That's the last thing we want 111 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:40,319 in our jail is not for everybody to come in here 112 00:07:40,399 --> 00:07:45,939 and leave here the same way they come in, if not healthier. 113 00:07:46,019 --> 00:07:48,899 ♪ ♪ 114 00:07:52,399 --> 00:07:55,189 Elton Mathis: I got a phone call from a friend of mine 115 00:07:55,269 --> 00:07:57,810 who's in the media in Houston. 116 00:07:57,899 --> 00:08:02,439 And he said, "Elton, what's going on with this hanging at the jail?" 117 00:08:02,519 --> 00:08:06,480 And I said, "Well. We had a hanging at the jail. 118 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,180 "As far as I know, the Texas Rangers are handling it, 119 00:08:09,269 --> 00:08:11,600 and that's about all I know." 120 00:08:12,980 --> 00:08:16,939 "They'll give me a report when they finish it." 121 00:08:19,230 --> 00:08:21,019 It got a lot stranger. 122 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:24,430 It was either that afternoon or the next morning, 123 00:08:24,519 --> 00:08:27,480 uh, everything hit the proverbial fan. 124 00:08:43,019 --> 00:08:45,559 Newswoman: Police say Bland was arrested for resisting arrest 125 00:08:45,649 --> 00:08:49,149 and assaulting an officer, but so far the only video of the incident 126 00:08:49,230 --> 00:08:51,730 shows Bland on the ground. 127 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,570 Sharon: I don't believe I saw the bystander video 128 00:08:54,649 --> 00:08:56,690 until it was released to the public, 129 00:08:56,769 --> 00:08:58,690 which was Tuesday. 130 00:08:58,769 --> 00:09:03,350 I couldn't understand why she was on the ground with this man's knee in her back. 131 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,980 I could not understand that. 132 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:08,980 As a sister, my heart, it hurts. 133 00:09:38,860 --> 00:09:41,570 Sharon: So, of course, when the bystander video comes out, 134 00:09:41,649 --> 00:09:45,110 now I have a ton of questions because my mind goes to, 135 00:09:45,190 --> 00:09:48,610 okay, what happened before all of that 136 00:09:48,690 --> 00:09:51,190 to get her to the point where she's down on the ground... 137 00:09:52,100 --> 00:09:55,350 with this guy towering over her. 138 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,019 And how do you go from this very strong woman 139 00:10:01,100 --> 00:10:05,230 to dead in jail by alleged suicide. 140 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,110 Cannon Lambert: He got a hundred percent on that other test, 141 00:10:18,190 --> 00:10:20,480 so let him do what he-- he took care of it. 142 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,850 Girl: Dad, where's the sugar? 143 00:10:24,730 --> 00:10:27,940 I'll see what happens. I'll let you know when she-- when he lets me know. 144 00:10:28,019 --> 00:10:29,559 He said that he's going to talk to her. 145 00:10:29,649 --> 00:10:32,070 I love you. Drive safely. 146 00:10:35,809 --> 00:10:39,100 (woman speaking indistinctly over radio) 147 00:10:40,350 --> 00:10:42,179 Cannon: My wife and I were in the car, 148 00:10:42,269 --> 00:10:45,269 and my wife told me Sandy Bland had passed, 149 00:10:45,350 --> 00:10:49,480 and I said, "Sandy Bland? Show me a picture of who you're talking about." 150 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,350 (radio broadcast continues) 151 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,730 She showed me a picture of Sandy, 152 00:10:53,809 --> 00:10:56,059 and I mean, you know, your heart kind of stops 153 00:10:56,149 --> 00:10:58,480 and you're... you're in shock. 154 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,350 ♪ ♪ 155 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,610 Sandy got rear-ended by a motorcycle 156 00:11:02,690 --> 00:11:06,149 on the 5th of April, 2015, 157 00:11:06,230 --> 00:11:09,059 and she contacted my office. 158 00:11:09,809 --> 00:11:12,269 She had a big personality, 159 00:11:12,350 --> 00:11:15,100 and it was a big, bright personality. 160 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,769 See, I'm assessing people when I talk to them, 161 00:11:18,860 --> 00:11:21,990 trying to figure out what type of witness they're going to be. 162 00:11:22,059 --> 00:11:25,269 Is she going to be equipped to think on her feet? She was. 163 00:11:27,809 --> 00:11:30,769 Sandy died on the 13th of July. 164 00:11:31,269 --> 00:11:35,190 And from that next morning when I got a phone call from the family 165 00:11:35,269 --> 00:11:37,649 asking whether or not we could get involved, 166 00:11:37,730 --> 00:11:40,980 I mean, uh, you felt compelled. 167 00:11:41,059 --> 00:11:42,559 ♪ ♪ 168 00:11:42,649 --> 00:11:44,779 (distant sirens wailing) 169 00:11:50,019 --> 00:11:53,230 On Friday, we got down to Texas, 170 00:11:53,309 --> 00:11:56,350 and it's seven o'clock at night. 171 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,480 -I'm about to pass out 'cause I'm so hungry. -I know, baby. I know. 172 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,179 Geneva: We were told, once you get here, 173 00:12:02,269 --> 00:12:04,440 it will be proven without a doubt. 174 00:12:04,519 --> 00:12:06,809 You'll be able to see... 175 00:12:07,690 --> 00:12:09,980 that she... 176 00:12:10,809 --> 00:12:14,309 contributed in her own... death. 177 00:12:16,399 --> 00:12:19,480 Cannon: The Texas Rangers, they walked us through footage, 178 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,519 so they claimed, anyway, of the jail. 179 00:12:25,860 --> 00:12:29,820 We were looking, trying to see where Sandy was. 180 00:12:31,399 --> 00:12:33,690 I didn't see her ever. 181 00:12:35,809 --> 00:12:38,600 Sharon: The video that we viewed when we went down, 182 00:12:38,690 --> 00:12:42,820 it was only for the morning of Monday, July 13th. 183 00:12:43,230 --> 00:12:46,019 There's no time stamps, there's no dates. 184 00:12:47,019 --> 00:12:49,940 Her cell was all the way in the back corner. 185 00:12:50,019 --> 00:12:52,519 She was in cell number 95. 186 00:12:54,269 --> 00:12:56,769 Shanté: The way they choose to phrase it is, 187 00:12:56,860 --> 00:13:00,149 where she was did not have cameras. 188 00:13:00,860 --> 00:13:03,360 But I would think that that would be strange. 189 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,360 Then how are you monitoring your inmates? 190 00:13:10,019 --> 00:13:12,730 Why was she in a cell by herself? 191 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,059 That's a big cell for one person. 192 00:13:17,059 --> 00:13:19,809 And when they were wheeling the gurney out, 193 00:13:19,899 --> 00:13:23,570 I went, "Whoa, she's going to be on the gurney, right?" 194 00:13:23,649 --> 00:13:26,399 Oh, no. She wasn't on the gurney. 195 00:13:27,899 --> 00:13:30,029 She was not on the gurney. 196 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,860 Cannon: And then the lead investigator for the Texas Rangers, 197 00:13:36,940 --> 00:13:41,399 Shane Ellison, had told us that specifically Sandy made upwards of 21 phone calls. 198 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,269 Yet they tell us they don't know 199 00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:45,850 what phones she used to make these 21 calls. 200 00:13:45,940 --> 00:13:47,730 That doesn't make sense to me. 201 00:13:47,809 --> 00:13:49,440 If you know she made 21 calls, 202 00:13:49,519 --> 00:13:53,559 then you've got to know what phones she used to make those calls. 203 00:13:55,059 --> 00:13:57,690 And then he also said that when he was called 204 00:13:57,769 --> 00:14:02,440 that that triggered a crime investigation, a criminal investigation. 205 00:14:03,269 --> 00:14:05,940 So I'm thinking that we're going to see the documentation 206 00:14:06,019 --> 00:14:07,559 by way of photographs. 207 00:14:07,649 --> 00:14:11,399 They showed us some photographs of her body in the cell. 208 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:15,309 They did not have any photographs that depicted her hanging, 209 00:14:15,399 --> 00:14:18,730 and we were told explicitly that they don't exist. 210 00:14:21,309 --> 00:14:24,059 And she was hung from a trash bag. 211 00:14:24,980 --> 00:14:27,309 The trash bag is the ligature. 212 00:14:28,649 --> 00:14:30,029 Sharon: I thought, where did this woman 213 00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:31,929 even get a plastic bag from? 214 00:14:34,269 --> 00:14:36,059 When you're booking an inmate, 215 00:14:36,149 --> 00:14:39,360 you're stripping them of anything that would put them in a position 216 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,019 to harm themselves. 217 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:42,850 You're stripping them of their shoestrings. 218 00:14:42,940 --> 00:14:44,730 You're stripping them of their belt. 219 00:14:44,809 --> 00:14:47,139 You're stripping them of their earrings. 220 00:14:49,149 --> 00:14:52,820 You have a 30-gallon trash can, 221 00:14:52,899 --> 00:14:55,070 in an inmate's cell, 222 00:14:55,149 --> 00:14:58,649 that gives them access to a plastic bag. 223 00:15:01,350 --> 00:15:05,600 Shanté: If she was in as much pain as she says she was in, 224 00:15:06,269 --> 00:15:10,269 I just don't see how she could have tied that perfect, 225 00:15:10,350 --> 00:15:13,100 very perfect noose. 226 00:15:14,980 --> 00:15:17,940 Sharon: I know that we were grieving, but... 227 00:15:18,059 --> 00:15:19,980 we are a family of note-takers. 228 00:15:20,059 --> 00:15:24,139 We take notes of things that were being told to us that just didn't sound right. 229 00:15:24,230 --> 00:15:26,360 ♪ ♪ 230 00:15:32,899 --> 00:15:36,360 We view the dashcam video on the 21st, the day before we fly her home, 231 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,360 so now I've got a ton of questions. 232 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,480 Oh, I have a slew of questions, right? 233 00:15:40,559 --> 00:15:42,690 ♪ ♪ 234 00:15:52,309 --> 00:15:54,519 (indistinct police radio chatter) 235 00:17:55,019 --> 00:17:57,309 -Sandra: For what? -Encinia: ...send me another unit. 236 00:18:28,349 --> 00:18:32,019 I'm sitting, I'm watching all of these violations occur. 237 00:18:32,099 --> 00:18:35,059 -Sandra: Let's do this. -Yeah, we're going to. 238 00:18:35,150 --> 00:18:36,859 Cannon: That man slapped her. 239 00:18:36,940 --> 00:18:38,769 He slapped her, you can hear it. 240 00:18:38,859 --> 00:18:40,819 -Encinia: We're going to. -(slaps) 241 00:18:40,900 --> 00:18:44,029 Cannon: He reaches into the car, and you hear a smack, 242 00:18:44,099 --> 00:18:47,230 and then you see her head pulling away from him. 243 00:18:49,349 --> 00:18:52,890 The reason that the slap is important is because it's a battery. 244 00:18:57,940 --> 00:19:00,440 When she's recording him, "Put your phone down." 245 00:19:00,519 --> 00:19:03,400 "I have the right to record. This is my property." 246 00:19:22,059 --> 00:19:23,190 Cannon: You tell her to turn around, 247 00:19:23,269 --> 00:19:24,849 she doesn't want to turn around. 248 00:19:24,940 --> 00:19:26,269 She says, "Why do I have to turn around?" two or three times, 249 00:19:26,349 --> 00:19:28,390 but ultimately turns around on her own. 250 00:20:12,769 --> 00:20:14,190 Encinia: Stop it! 251 00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:19,440 Sharon: I felt like, oh, my gosh, if she was treated that way, 252 00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:21,599 in public, cars are riding by, 253 00:20:21,690 --> 00:20:24,480 she's treated that way, on the road... 254 00:20:25,650 --> 00:20:27,650 what was going on in the jail? 255 00:20:29,730 --> 00:20:32,269 What was going on in there? 256 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,609 Shanté: When Sandy called me on Saturday, 257 00:20:42,309 --> 00:20:45,690 she told me that her bond was $500. 258 00:20:45,769 --> 00:20:48,559 And I told her that I had $100 259 00:20:48,650 --> 00:20:50,940 and I would work on getting the rest for her. 260 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:55,019 She knows that I'm gonna come through for her. 261 00:20:55,730 --> 00:20:58,690 I just don't see her taking her own life. 262 00:20:58,769 --> 00:21:00,599 I just don't see it. 263 00:21:00,690 --> 00:21:02,730 ♪ ♪ 264 00:21:03,940 --> 00:21:06,859 Cannon: Until we have concrete answers, 265 00:21:06,940 --> 00:21:08,859 as to the time of her death, 266 00:21:08,940 --> 00:21:13,569 and whether or not that death could have been caused, 267 00:21:13,650 --> 00:21:16,779 uh, by someone other than her, 268 00:21:16,859 --> 00:21:19,819 until we have answers to those sorts of questions, 269 00:21:19,900 --> 00:21:22,359 all options are on the table, they have to be. 270 00:21:25,349 --> 00:21:28,680 Anytime there's a jail hanging, a jail death, 271 00:21:28,769 --> 00:21:30,599 that's treated as a homicide. 272 00:21:30,690 --> 00:21:32,690 We're still waiting for a hard copy 273 00:21:32,769 --> 00:21:35,309 of the Harris County medical examiner's autopsy, 274 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,980 and toxicology will probably be delayed about two weeks. 275 00:21:39,059 --> 00:21:40,849 At this point, this is still fresh. 276 00:21:40,940 --> 00:21:42,819 We're trying to respect the family and realize 277 00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:45,529 that they have a funeral that they need to plan. 278 00:21:45,599 --> 00:21:49,730 Ms. Bland's mother is anxious to get her daughter's body back to Illinois. 279 00:21:50,940 --> 00:21:52,980 Dan Patrick: As the lieutenant governor of Texas, 280 00:21:53,059 --> 00:21:58,019 yes, I want to be sure, we overturned every stone and looked at every fact. 281 00:21:58,099 --> 00:22:01,140 That's important for everyone, but it's most important for that family. 282 00:22:01,230 --> 00:22:04,730 -That's right. -I want that family, when they go back to Chicago... 283 00:22:05,349 --> 00:22:10,849 for when this is resolved, that they believe, they had justice in Texas. 284 00:22:19,269 --> 00:22:21,769 ♪ ♪ 285 00:22:32,690 --> 00:22:36,230 Geneva: Riding back on a plane... 286 00:22:38,019 --> 00:22:42,650 I sent her out of here on four wheels, 287 00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:46,480 and now she's coming back, 288 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,940 under the plane, with the cargo. 289 00:22:53,349 --> 00:22:56,930 Like these planes, she was ascending. 290 00:22:57,059 --> 00:22:59,099 She was going, going, 291 00:22:59,190 --> 00:23:02,819 and she got to a certain leve, plateaued, 292 00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:05,109 and then she was gone. 293 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,769 (camera clicks) 294 00:23:07,859 --> 00:23:10,029 Sandra: I am on the steps, if you can see behind me, 295 00:23:10,099 --> 00:23:11,559 of the DuSable Museum. 296 00:23:11,650 --> 00:23:14,230 I'm getting ready to walk in, but it's very, very interesting 297 00:23:14,309 --> 00:23:16,809 and amazing to know how much black history 298 00:23:16,900 --> 00:23:20,069 is truly right here in our own city. 299 00:23:20,150 --> 00:23:22,480 (camera clicking) 300 00:23:22,559 --> 00:23:26,690 Chicago was founded by a man of color: 301 00:23:26,769 --> 00:23:28,349 DuSable. 302 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,519 There needs to be a statue of that man in the heart of downtown. 303 00:23:32,690 --> 00:23:36,690 The first open-heart surgery, performed by Daniel Hale Williams. 304 00:23:36,769 --> 00:23:40,559 That was right on the south side of Chicago at Provident Hospital. 305 00:23:40,650 --> 00:23:43,359 Y'all, our history is so rich and deep, 306 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,940 but it is up to us to find it. 307 00:23:46,019 --> 00:23:48,150 ♪ ♪ 308 00:23:49,900 --> 00:23:52,230 Sharon: Sandy's number four in the pack. 309 00:23:53,859 --> 00:23:56,650 And Sandy was a helper. 310 00:23:56,730 --> 00:23:58,859 ♪ ♪ 311 00:24:00,150 --> 00:24:02,029 What about like this? 312 00:24:02,690 --> 00:24:04,859 Sharon: Growing up, we didn't have a lot of money. 313 00:24:04,940 --> 00:24:07,109 Can you say, "Please, Mommy, please?" 314 00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:10,940 Sharon: My mom had my first sister when she was 15, and... 315 00:24:11,019 --> 00:24:13,650 she had all of us by the time she was 25. 316 00:24:13,730 --> 00:24:16,599 And then if I get a chance to taste it, I'll taste it. 317 00:24:17,150 --> 00:24:19,779 Shanté: My mother was very strict about education. 318 00:24:20,190 --> 00:24:24,019 If we were sick, we had to go to school, it didn't matter. 319 00:24:24,099 --> 00:24:26,430 Geneva: I was called "The Warden." 320 00:24:26,519 --> 00:24:28,519 I'm your mom. 321 00:24:28,599 --> 00:24:32,519 I'm not your schoolmate. 322 00:24:33,650 --> 00:24:37,069 But I don't remember Sandy accepting "no." 323 00:24:42,859 --> 00:24:44,940 Sharon: She knew she wanted to go to college. 324 00:24:45,019 --> 00:24:47,440 The HBCUs came to the Chicago-land area, 325 00:24:47,519 --> 00:24:50,190 the Historically Black Collegs and Universities. 326 00:24:50,269 --> 00:24:52,650 And she happened upon Prairie View, 327 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,319 and they gave her a scholarship, a band scholarship. 328 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,569 ♪ ♪ 329 00:24:59,190 --> 00:25:03,730 It's a big deal to e a part of a band at an African-American institution. 330 00:25:04,769 --> 00:25:10,150 But it also meant doing something that nobody in this family ever did, 331 00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:11,940 which was leave home, 332 00:25:12,019 --> 00:25:17,269 and go miles away from this very close-knit family... 333 00:25:18,309 --> 00:25:20,140 to Texas. 334 00:25:25,099 --> 00:25:27,140 ♪ ♪ 335 00:25:32,059 --> 00:25:34,230 (crossing alarm clanging) 336 00:25:35,019 --> 00:25:37,400 (train whistle blows) 337 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,440 Smith: We're right on the west side of Houston. 338 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:49,279 And most of our business here is farming, but... 339 00:25:49,349 --> 00:25:55,140 here at the sheriff's office, one of our primary focuses is obviously the jail. 340 00:25:57,190 --> 00:26:01,519 A county jail, we're not here for punishment. 341 00:26:01,599 --> 00:26:05,230 We're here to hold you till you go to court, 342 00:26:05,309 --> 00:26:08,140 and then decide what your punishment is. 343 00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:17,859 We are that guardian, that, "Okay, we gotta get 'em through this." 344 00:26:17,940 --> 00:26:20,019 (engine starts) 345 00:26:21,309 --> 00:26:26,390 Lavaughn Mosley: Sheriff Glenn Smith used to be chief of police in Hempstead. 346 00:26:27,150 --> 00:26:32,069 Chief Smith had complaints of racial intimidation. 347 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:35,480 They reprimanded him, 348 00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:37,480 they sent him to sensitivity training, 349 00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:41,769 and in spite of all of that, he continued to get reports. 350 00:26:41,859 --> 00:26:47,150 But, eventuall, he won the election to be the sheriff of Waller County. 351 00:26:48,650 --> 00:26:50,109 Trooper: Taking a lot of classes? 352 00:26:50,190 --> 00:26:51,819 LaToya Smith: Prairie View is over-policed. 353 00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:53,440 Trooper: Here's a copy of the warning. 354 00:26:53,519 --> 00:26:55,940 LaToya: You are policed by university campus, 355 00:26:56,019 --> 00:26:59,480 city of Prairie View, you're policed by the state troopers, 356 00:26:59,559 --> 00:27:02,849 you're policed by the sheriff, Waller County, 357 00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:04,569 and the constables. 358 00:27:04,650 --> 00:27:07,230 That's five people for this area. 359 00:27:07,309 --> 00:27:08,940 (sirens wailing) 360 00:27:09,019 --> 00:27:14,650 This is the same county that me and Sandy marched to vote, in 2008. 361 00:27:14,730 --> 00:27:18,059 Because they didn't want the student population to vot, 362 00:27:18,150 --> 00:27:20,400 so we wouldn't offset their voting. 363 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,690 We're in Texas. It's always been the good old boys system. 364 00:27:24,769 --> 00:27:27,230 Good old boys taking care of the good old boys. 365 00:27:29,309 --> 00:27:31,730 Smith: This county unfortunately goes all the way back 366 00:27:31,809 --> 00:27:35,519 to the Civil War, and it is a sensitive topic. 367 00:27:37,150 --> 00:27:39,940 Do we have prejudice in this county? 368 00:27:40,019 --> 00:27:41,809 Yes. You know. 369 00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:44,690 Do we have it across the country? Yes. 370 00:27:46,150 --> 00:27:48,230 (horns honking) 371 00:27:55,900 --> 00:27:58,819 Sandy had come back from Prairie View initially, 372 00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:00,940 and was trying to kind of find herself... 373 00:28:01,599 --> 00:28:05,599 doing different jobs, trying to figure out where she fit. 374 00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:10,529 Hi, I'm Sandy, and I'm the administrative assistant here at Cook's. 375 00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:14,559 Today, I'm going to be talking to you about copolymers and polycarbonates. 376 00:28:14,650 --> 00:28:19,359 Marland: With Cooks, she found out that one of their biggest accounts 377 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,980 was the penitentiary system. 378 00:28:22,059 --> 00:28:26,190 And she said, "I can't work for a company that's doing this kind of stuff." 379 00:28:26,269 --> 00:28:30,190 Sandra: The softness of the material is important because it means it will not shatter 380 00:28:30,269 --> 00:28:33,059 and it cannot be easily sharpened into a weapon. 381 00:28:33,150 --> 00:28:35,029 You find so many meal delivery products... 382 00:28:35,099 --> 00:28:37,809 Sharon: It was in direct conflict with her morals, 383 00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:42,940 in terms of mass incarceration of disenfranchised people. 384 00:28:44,059 --> 00:28:47,390 After that, she'd had a couple of job opportunities that she didn't get, 385 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,400 even though she felt like she did great, so, 386 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,859 that would frustrate her sometimes. 387 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,029 Marland: You've spent four years at a university 388 00:28:56,099 --> 00:28:59,519 and wracked up all this debt and you can't find a darn job? 389 00:28:59,599 --> 00:29:01,730 In your field? 390 00:29:02,309 --> 00:29:04,440 You're not going to be too happy about that. 391 00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:06,519 ♪ ♪ 392 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,230 Sandra: I've been really stressed out over these past couple of weeks, 393 00:29:10,309 --> 00:29:12,519 suffering from depression. 394 00:29:13,099 --> 00:29:17,430 And I started crying, and in the middle of my tears, 395 00:29:17,519 --> 00:29:21,519 in my head, I just heard the song, "God Blocked It." 396 00:29:22,650 --> 00:29:25,690 It let me know that everything was going to be okay. 397 00:29:25,769 --> 00:29:27,349 It will be okay. 398 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,359 God let me know that you have got work to do. 399 00:29:33,859 --> 00:29:35,940 Sharon: I always knew what she was capable of, 400 00:29:36,019 --> 00:29:38,559 which was harnessing her voic, being anchored in it. 401 00:29:38,650 --> 00:29:42,529 and doing something about things that she just felt wasn't right. 402 00:29:42,599 --> 00:29:44,680 -Man: Hold on, hold on, hold on. -Eric Garner: Don't touch me. 403 00:29:44,769 --> 00:29:46,559 -(bleeps) -(police shouting) 404 00:29:46,650 --> 00:29:49,400 Newsman: The most recent case of alleged police brutality here... 405 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,980 ...their safety and don't feel that they can trust the police officer, 406 00:29:52,059 --> 00:29:53,190 and then police officers... 407 00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:55,900 -(sirens wailing) -(shouting) 408 00:29:55,980 --> 00:29:57,650 (shouting) 409 00:29:57,730 --> 00:29:59,769 (gunfire) 410 00:30:02,650 --> 00:30:05,029 Hey, y'all. So... 411 00:30:06,019 --> 00:30:07,730 I don't know where to look. 412 00:30:07,809 --> 00:30:12,140 And if I'm lookin' a little crazy, it's 'cause this is a test. Um... 413 00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:14,900 I wanted to make this video message 414 00:30:14,980 --> 00:30:19,019 and plant my seed of "Sandy Speaks." 415 00:30:19,099 --> 00:30:22,390 I know my head probably looks a little crazy right now, 416 00:30:22,809 --> 00:30:26,809 but, um... with the police brutality 417 00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:29,609 and all of the things that have been going on in the news 418 00:30:29,690 --> 00:30:33,609 somewhere along the way, we've forgotten about an important group, 419 00:30:33,690 --> 00:30:36,309 which are the kids. Um... 420 00:30:36,730 --> 00:30:38,190 I don't have any kids. 421 00:30:38,269 --> 00:30:41,980 I do have an eight-year-old and a 14-year-old nephew. 422 00:30:43,230 --> 00:30:47,019 Sorry, my battery about to die. I ain't even got my cord. Um... 423 00:30:47,940 --> 00:30:54,059 Through "Sandy Speaks," we are going to open up a gateway for the kids. 424 00:30:54,150 --> 00:30:57,859 Educating them on interacting with police. 425 00:30:57,940 --> 00:31:00,650 I don't think it's ever too early. 426 00:31:01,730 --> 00:31:03,900 And if you're a cop out there and you're watching this, 427 00:31:03,980 --> 00:31:06,859 here is your chance to say something and educate these kids, 428 00:31:06,940 --> 00:31:09,609 'cause again, I'm here to change history. 429 00:31:10,059 --> 00:31:13,390 This thing that I'm holding in my hand, this telephone, this camera, 430 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,650 it is quite powerful. 431 00:31:15,730 --> 00:31:17,400 Social media is powerful. 432 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,900 We can do something with this. 433 00:31:18,980 --> 00:31:23,150 If we want to change, we can really, truly make it happen. 434 00:31:23,230 --> 00:31:24,809 "Sandy Speaks." 435 00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:27,940 LaToya: When she first posted her "Sandy Speaks" on Facebook, 436 00:31:28,019 --> 00:31:31,650 I got all these notifications from Sandy. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. 437 00:31:32,019 --> 00:31:35,230 That was her channeling that energy. 438 00:31:35,309 --> 00:31:38,730 This fight for civil rights, it still goes on right now. 439 00:31:38,809 --> 00:31:42,559 Although it's not called civil rights, that is what it is. 440 00:31:42,650 --> 00:31:45,480 Your right to be a civilian. 441 00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:49,849 We are still in that fight today, so please don't think it's over. 'Cause it's not. 442 00:31:49,940 --> 00:31:54,900 You are going to have to stand before God, and he is going to ask you, 443 00:31:54,980 --> 00:31:58,400 were you able to show love to your white man. 444 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,230 Because that's the ultimate test. I really, I believe that. 445 00:32:02,309 --> 00:32:06,440 We are so valuable to this country, to this nation as a whole, 446 00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:12,269 but we will never succeed and we will never thrive as a culture, 447 00:32:12,349 --> 00:32:16,180 as a country, if we don't wake up. 448 00:32:16,269 --> 00:32:20,019 Black-on-black crime numbers are extremely high. 449 00:32:20,099 --> 00:32:23,309 These gangbangers and drug dealers, the people that they're shooting 450 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,730 are not other gangbangers and drug dealers. 451 00:32:25,809 --> 00:32:27,599 They are killing our babies. 452 00:32:27,690 --> 00:32:31,359 Why do we keep acting like niggers? Excuse my French. 453 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,609 But that is what we keep acting like. 454 00:32:33,690 --> 00:32:36,569 Shanté: She was speaking some real powerful stuff, 455 00:32:36,650 --> 00:32:41,690 that some people would not have dare been able to even speak. 456 00:32:41,769 --> 00:32:43,690 We have to just stop icing these things over. 457 00:32:43,769 --> 00:32:46,940 We have to stop acting like they don't matter. 458 00:32:47,019 --> 00:32:50,059 And so Sandy is going to speak whenever I see something wrong. 459 00:32:50,150 --> 00:32:51,730 I thank you guys, I love you guys... 460 00:32:51,809 --> 00:32:53,890 Marland: What she was really saying in her messages, 461 00:32:53,980 --> 00:32:57,519 we can no longer be passive about these things. 462 00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:01,269 Not somebody has to do something about it. 463 00:33:01,349 --> 00:33:03,849 We have to do something about it. 464 00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:06,849 Shanté: She gets a call from Prairie View 465 00:33:06,940 --> 00:33:10,730 that there is a job opportunity. It was a temp job. 466 00:33:10,809 --> 00:33:13,769 And they said, we need you to be here to do this job interview. 467 00:33:14,690 --> 00:33:17,059 Well, at first I was like, "You know, you just left. 468 00:33:17,150 --> 00:33:19,190 "You didn't tell us or anything." And she was like, 469 00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:23,980 "It was going to be too emotional and I needed to do this, for me." 470 00:33:24,059 --> 00:33:26,099 ♪ ♪ 471 00:33:43,809 --> 00:33:47,940 Sandra: To be successful in this world, you have to knw how to work with white people. 472 00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:51,150 What "Sandy Speaks" wants to do 473 00:33:51,230 --> 00:33:54,769 is let my kings and queens know, you can do it. 474 00:33:54,859 --> 00:33:58,109 We can be successful. It is up to us. 475 00:33:58,809 --> 00:34:01,099 ♪ ♪ 476 00:34:04,190 --> 00:34:08,820 I'm here! I am in Prairie View, Texas. 477 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,980 Back at the crib. See the sign for PVAMU right there. 478 00:34:16,150 --> 00:34:17,690 I'm home! 479 00:34:18,650 --> 00:34:20,860 Exiting 10-98 now. 480 00:34:20,940 --> 00:34:22,980 Welcome back. Oh, Lord. 481 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,809 I'm about to go over Waller County line. 482 00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:30,190 Sandra (over phone): Hi Mommy, it's me. 483 00:34:30,269 --> 00:34:34,519 Just wanted to let you know that I made it, I am here! 484 00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:36,349 I am here. 485 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,269 Call me when you get a chance. Love you. Bye-bye. 486 00:34:42,230 --> 00:34:45,059 Mosley: When I got to my house, she was already in the driveway. 487 00:34:45,150 --> 00:34:46,780 Said, "Interview at one o'clock." 488 00:34:46,860 --> 00:34:49,110 So she went in, she changed, she showered. 489 00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:50,690 She said, "How do I look?" 490 00:34:50,769 --> 00:34:52,849 I said, "You look like you're about to get a job." 491 00:34:54,190 --> 00:34:56,730 Today, y'all, we're going to talk about hair. 492 00:34:56,809 --> 00:34:58,349 I don't know if many of y'all saw my post 493 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,900 about how ready I am for my locks, but if you could see, 494 00:35:01,980 --> 00:35:04,099 yeah, I got my natural back. 495 00:35:04,190 --> 00:35:08,150 My fellow kings and queens always find something to laugh or poke fun about it, 496 00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:13,230 but, baby, under that edge-up, you got naps. 497 00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:17,110 Sweetie pie, under that Brazilian, you got naps. 498 00:35:17,190 --> 00:35:20,110 Before you get that perm, you have naps. 499 00:35:20,559 --> 00:35:24,230 So let's just cut it out. Let's stop hatin' on people 'cause their hair's natural. 500 00:35:24,309 --> 00:35:26,099 It's only hair. 501 00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:28,860 Okay? I love y'all. 502 00:35:30,269 --> 00:35:34,230 Geneva: Friday, Sandy just called to say, "Hey, I got it." 503 00:35:34,309 --> 00:35:36,769 I'm about to start in a few days. I got it, Mom!" 504 00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:40,440 She was going to work, but then she was also 505 00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:43,559 going to work on her master's in political science. 506 00:35:43,650 --> 00:35:47,360 She goes, "I'm going to the grocery store, and I'll talk to you later." 507 00:35:49,059 --> 00:35:50,940 I text her and I say, 508 00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:56,900 "Watch out, Prairie View. Werk it, girl." 509 00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:10,980 Friday afternoon, tables turned. 510 00:36:12,099 --> 00:36:14,099 Everything's different. 511 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,480 ♪ ♪ 512 00:36:57,309 --> 00:37:00,099 Mosley: That night, about 10 o'clock, my phone rings, 513 00:37:00,190 --> 00:37:04,150 and I look at it on the caller ID and it said Waller County Sheriff's Department. 514 00:37:05,599 --> 00:37:07,269 And of course, I answer the phone. 515 00:37:07,349 --> 00:37:11,269 And it was Sandra Bland, and she was upset. 516 00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:13,480 Not crying, upset 'cause of what happened, 517 00:37:13,559 --> 00:37:16,519 she was pissed because of what happened. 518 00:37:18,860 --> 00:37:21,570 Smith: The main charge that she come in here with 519 00:37:21,650 --> 00:37:24,820 was assault on a public servant. 520 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:34,690 And Ms. Bland, unfortunately, had a past criminal record. 521 00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:39,820 It was minor charges, a small amount of marijuana, maybe. 522 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,820 But the current charge of a felony 523 00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:47,400 put her just in that different category. 524 00:37:51,690 --> 00:37:54,019 But I'm a country sheriff. 525 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,610 I'm a conservative. 526 00:37:56,690 --> 00:37:59,940 By God, don't go violating the law or we're gonna get you. 527 00:38:00,019 --> 00:38:03,599 And you should be punished if you're found guilty. 528 00:38:03,690 --> 00:38:06,309 I mean, that's me. 529 00:38:08,349 --> 00:38:11,269 Sandra (over phone): Hey, this is me. I'm, um... 530 00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:13,429 I just was able to see the judge. 531 00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:17,690 I don't really know, they got me sitting in a $5,000 bond. 532 00:38:18,190 --> 00:38:22,110 I'm still just at a loss for words, honestly, about this whole process. 533 00:38:22,190 --> 00:38:24,400 How this switching lanes with no signal 534 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,650 turned into all of this, I don't even know. 535 00:38:26,730 --> 00:38:28,769 Um, but I'm still here. 536 00:38:28,860 --> 00:38:31,440 So, I guess call me back when you can. 537 00:38:33,059 --> 00:38:34,389 (phone chimes off) 538 00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:39,650 Smith: Ms. Bland's bond was set at $5,000. 539 00:38:39,980 --> 00:38:44,650 But most bondsmen here charge about 10 percent. 540 00:38:44,730 --> 00:38:48,230 So basically, it'd have been about 500. 541 00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:52,940 Joe Booker: She called me from the jail. 542 00:38:53,019 --> 00:38:55,440 She didn't have any money, what she said. 543 00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:58,690 And I said, "Well, you got somebody that can help you, 544 00:38:58,769 --> 00:39:00,900 or I need to call?" 545 00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:05,349 I called her sister, and her sister said, 546 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,269 "I had told Sandra all I had was..." 547 00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:10,809 I think she said a hundred, and "My rent's due," blah, blah, blah. 548 00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:14,690 So the next person called me after that was her mom. 549 00:39:14,769 --> 00:39:19,269 I say, "Okay. I'm going to get with the rest of the family, 550 00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:21,599 and we'll get back with you." 551 00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:26,860 There was no sense of, 552 00:39:26,940 --> 00:39:31,400 Oh, Jesus, I gotta jump down here, go on a plane and go do this right now. 553 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,650 No. 554 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,440 The main thing for us was, 555 00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:39,809 she said, "I'm gonna call you back." 556 00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:44,900 And the next phone call I got from the family was 557 00:39:44,980 --> 00:39:49,190 that Monday afternoon, when her mom called me and said, uh... 558 00:39:49,269 --> 00:39:52,309 "Mr. Booker, they said my daughter's in the morgue," and that was it. 559 00:39:56,099 --> 00:39:58,309 We were very upset and saddened by it, 560 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,070 but at the same time, 561 00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:02,360 myself and Elton Mathis 562 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,440 we were bound and determined to make sure 563 00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:06,099 whatever the process was, 564 00:40:06,190 --> 00:40:08,230 that it would be open and transparent 565 00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:10,019 from the beginning till the end. 566 00:40:13,019 --> 00:40:14,730 Geneva: The truth is, 567 00:40:14,809 --> 00:40:18,480 it was not the authorities that called me. 568 00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:20,269 I'm the mom. 569 00:40:20,349 --> 00:40:26,809 There was never a phone call from Waller County about Sandy's death. 570 00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:29,030 ♪ ♪ 571 00:40:30,650 --> 00:40:32,610 LaToya: When someone told me that Sandy hung herself, 572 00:40:32,690 --> 00:40:35,440 it was like this overwhelming feeling of oppression. 573 00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:38,019 Right, 'cause the thing that happened with the kids 574 00:40:38,099 --> 00:40:42,139 in Texas, where they were body-slammed at the pool party had just happened. 575 00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:45,150 -(screaming) -Get down! Down! 576 00:40:45,230 --> 00:40:47,769 LaToya: There was so much unrest in the country, 577 00:40:47,860 --> 00:40:50,820 and this is not just happening on TV, 578 00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:53,610 and it's happening to someone who you knew. 579 00:40:53,690 --> 00:40:57,900 None of that made sense about who she was, the type of person she was, 580 00:40:57,980 --> 00:41:00,349 the type of fighter that she was. 581 00:41:01,309 --> 00:41:03,389 Sandra: Good morning, my beautiful kings and queens. 582 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:08,110 If you could see my poster, here, "All white people are not against us." 583 00:41:16,190 --> 00:41:17,480 -Sandra: So call the police. -Okay. 584 00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:19,980 Sandra: All right. Go ahead. 585 00:41:20,059 --> 00:41:21,559 Go right ahead. 586 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,690 All right. Y'all see it. The police are about to get called. 587 00:41:25,769 --> 00:41:28,400 "Sandy Speaks." Game is on. 588 00:41:31,019 --> 00:41:34,309 LaToya: When the video came out, I was enraged. 589 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:40,070 That she would go into a jail and cower away and kill herself made no sense to me. 590 00:41:40,769 --> 00:41:42,400 Something was not right. 591 00:41:43,690 --> 00:41:46,769 I just kept posting articles and information and trying to get people out there, 592 00:41:46,860 --> 00:41:49,150 and like, Sandra Bland. Say her name, say her name. 593 00:41:49,230 --> 00:41:52,940 Prairie View alumni kept tweeting and tweeting and Instagram-ing 594 00:41:53,019 --> 00:41:56,099 and Facebook-ing and hashtag-ing her name everywhere. 595 00:42:05,150 --> 00:42:08,150 Hello, this is Hannah Bonner. I'm here at the Waller County Jail. 596 00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:12,150 When Sandra died, we had not seen a woman's name 597 00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:15,019 have that staying power that we had seen 598 00:42:15,099 --> 00:42:18,429 with Michael Brown, Tamir Rice, Trayvon Martin. 599 00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:23,900 Women had died, but we had not continued to say their names. 600 00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:34,650 So she died on Monday, and by Wednesday night I was at the jail. 601 00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:41,070 And we lit a candle that had the hashtag: 602 00:42:41,150 --> 00:42:43,190 What Happened to Sandra Bland. 603 00:42:44,190 --> 00:42:47,570 And so somebody from inside the jail blew the candle out. 604 00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:51,820 Bonner: You have a responsibility to serve and protect me. 605 00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:54,110 -Officer: No, I don't. -Bonner: Oh. Oh! 606 00:42:54,190 --> 00:42:57,269 -You don't? -Officer: You don't want me to. 607 00:42:59,349 --> 00:43:03,019 Bonner: Then we started projecting onto the wall of the jail. 608 00:43:04,650 --> 00:43:08,900 I was asked, was I trying to racially unite 609 00:43:08,980 --> 00:43:11,400 or racially incite. 610 00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:15,559 Well, honestly, I feel that 611 00:43:15,650 --> 00:43:17,980 my goal is to racially unite. 612 00:43:18,730 --> 00:43:19,900 Now... 613 00:43:20,980 --> 00:43:25,349 in the process of doing that, some people will be incited, 614 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:31,480 i.e. upset, because based on the history of America, 615 00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:36,639 it is not good when it comes to black and white people. 616 00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:48,019 Sandra Bland didn't have to be here. 617 00:43:48,860 --> 00:43:52,360 America allowed this to happen. 618 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,650 Because these idiots, these Europeans have miseducated our people. 619 00:43:56,730 --> 00:43:59,559 -(chanting): Too black, too strong! -Too black, too strong! 620 00:43:59,650 --> 00:44:02,280 -Too black, too strong! -Too black, too strong! 621 00:44:02,349 --> 00:44:04,389 -All power to the people! -All power to the people! 622 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,559 -All power to the people! -All power to the people! 623 00:44:06,650 --> 00:44:09,150 -Too black, too strong! -Too black, too strong! 624 00:44:09,230 --> 00:44:12,059 -No more pigs in my community! -Off the pig! 625 00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:14,980 -No more pigs in my community! -Off the pig! 626 00:44:15,059 --> 00:44:17,849 -Revolution has come! -Off the pig! 627 00:44:17,940 --> 00:44:20,769 -No more sisters in jail! -Off the pig! 628 00:44:20,860 --> 00:44:23,860 -Pigs are going to catch hell! -Off the pig! 629 00:44:23,940 --> 00:44:25,360 -Oink, oink! -Oink, oink! 630 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,940 -Oink, oink! -Oink, oink! 631 00:44:27,019 --> 00:44:29,059 Panther patch, it says, "Freedom or death!" 632 00:44:29,150 --> 00:44:30,940 And we mean it till our last breath! 633 00:44:31,019 --> 00:44:32,599 Others: And we mean it till our last breath! 634 00:44:32,690 --> 00:44:34,150 -Whose streets? -Our streets! 635 00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:35,650 -Whose streets? -Our streets! 636 00:44:37,059 --> 00:44:39,139 (boat horn blares) 637 00:44:40,769 --> 00:44:42,809 Cannon: We're back in Chicago. 638 00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:47,650 Sandy is back in Chicago, and we're preparing to bury her. 639 00:44:48,349 --> 00:44:50,769 We're burying her on Saturday. 640 00:44:51,519 --> 00:44:56,690 And my first text that I receive from Mr. Mathis, the district attorney down there, 641 00:44:57,269 --> 00:45:00,480 he says to me at 4:58, "Where is the body? 642 00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:04,269 "Do you have the results back on your autopsy?" 643 00:45:04,940 --> 00:45:10,730 I say in response, "Sandy is here with us. We haven't received our report yet." 644 00:45:10,980 --> 00:45:14,730 So this is part of what makes me start to feel like 645 00:45:14,809 --> 00:45:16,980 there's a little gamesmanship that's going on 646 00:45:17,059 --> 00:45:20,389 because he knows that I can't have a full autopsy report. 647 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:25,650 He then says, "Looking at the autopsy results and toxicology, 648 00:45:25,730 --> 00:45:30,730 "it appears that she may have swallowed a large quantity of marijuana or smoked it in jail. 649 00:45:30,809 --> 00:45:33,730 "Since your client has possession of Ms. Bland's body, 650 00:45:33,809 --> 00:45:38,309 "I must ask it not be disturbed any more than necessary 651 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:43,730 "and that a proper chain of custody be kept, so that she will be available 652 00:45:43,809 --> 00:45:47,809 "for future examination by qualified experts. 653 00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:50,280 Notice is given at 5:10 p.m." 654 00:45:50,349 --> 00:45:53,429 That "notice is given at 5:10 p.m." is a specific effort 655 00:45:53,519 --> 00:45:58,690 to try and shift the burden as it relates to the destruction of evidence on this family 656 00:45:58,769 --> 00:46:01,059 when they know that they're about to bury her. 657 00:46:01,150 --> 00:46:07,860 You don't release a body if there's more tests that you need on that body. 658 00:46:07,940 --> 00:46:09,860 Do you think that's enough to cover some? I mean-- 659 00:46:09,940 --> 00:46:12,480 You're not only going to be asking what the policies, procedures, protocols, 660 00:46:12,559 --> 00:46:13,980 and guidelines are, 661 00:46:14,059 --> 00:46:16,849 but you're also going to say, "as it relates to booking." 662 00:46:16,940 --> 00:46:18,730 -That makes sense. -Cannon: Perfect. 663 00:46:18,809 --> 00:46:22,440 Cannon: When you start to deal with, frankly, deception, 664 00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:27,440 we could potentially file a lawsuit, if we wanted to, down there, in Waller County. 665 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:33,190 You file a suit so you can mae people give you the informatin that the family is entitled t. 666 00:46:33,269 --> 00:46:36,269 I mean, for Christ's sakes she died in their custody. 667 00:46:36,349 --> 00:46:39,389 We were able to get access to Sandra Bland's cell. 668 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,019 You can see they've left a lot of it just like the way it was. 669 00:46:42,099 --> 00:46:46,639 The food is still sitting here. The bed is still in the same arrangement that it was left in. 670 00:46:46,730 --> 00:46:50,230 But there's a lot of attention being paid to the trash bag just like this one. 671 00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:52,980 And this trash liner. Of course, this trash liner 672 00:46:53,059 --> 00:46:58,639 is what's believed that was used to string up here, and for Sandra Bland to hang herself. 673 00:46:58,730 --> 00:47:02,519 Cannon: There were reporters, as we know, go into the cell, 674 00:47:02,599 --> 00:47:05,480 in its state that it was claimed to have been in 675 00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:07,639 at the time that Sandy passed. 676 00:47:07,730 --> 00:47:11,559 And that says that is not being preserved. 677 00:47:12,099 --> 00:47:17,769 It just blows my mind that that could have happened, but it did. 678 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,030 Preacher: Eighteen years ago, 679 00:47:34,099 --> 00:47:36,179 a single parent 680 00:47:36,269 --> 00:47:41,599 brought five little girls to this church. 681 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:48,650 And Sandra Bland was one of our victories. 682 00:47:48,730 --> 00:47:51,650 Before she was formed... 683 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,280 God spoke into her spirit. 684 00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:02,019 "Now I'm sending you into a strange land. 685 00:48:02,349 --> 00:48:05,480 "All of the authorities are not fair. 686 00:48:05,559 --> 00:48:08,980 "All of the politicians are not honest. 687 00:48:09,059 --> 00:48:13,480 "And I'm sending you, Sandy Bland-- that's what they're going to name you-- 688 00:48:13,559 --> 00:48:18,139 I'm sending you not to shut up, but to speak up." 689 00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:21,400 And here came Sandy. 690 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,150 "Good morning, my kings and queens. 691 00:48:26,730 --> 00:48:31,230 "I'm not a racist. I don't believe in violence. 692 00:48:31,309 --> 00:48:34,019 "I'm not trying to incite. 693 00:48:34,099 --> 00:48:36,349 "I'm trying to unite. 694 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,940 -"Sandy Speaks." -(applause) 695 00:48:40,059 --> 00:48:41,889 As a matter of fact... 696 00:48:41,980 --> 00:48:44,269 -(organ playing) -...when I think of Sandy Bland, 697 00:48:44,349 --> 00:48:49,269 I'm going to think of more than an outspoken, strong-willed black woman. 698 00:48:49,349 --> 00:48:53,769 But I'm going to think of Jesus! Oh, yes I am! 699 00:48:53,860 --> 00:48:59,230 'Cause don't you know, Sandy was raised in a blended family. 700 00:48:59,309 --> 00:49:04,139 Like Jesus, she was brutally arrested. 701 00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:10,110 Like Jesus, she died in the custody of authority. 702 00:49:10,190 --> 00:49:14,940 Like Jesus, Sandy's still speaking. 703 00:49:15,019 --> 00:49:16,980 Are you listening? 704 00:49:17,690 --> 00:49:20,019 Are you listening? 705 00:49:21,019 --> 00:49:23,809 ♪ I said, it's just another day ♪ 706 00:49:23,900 --> 00:49:26,480 ♪ Just another day, yeah ♪ 707 00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:30,599 -♪ That my Lord ♪ -♪ Just another day, oh ♪ 708 00:49:30,690 --> 00:49:33,150 -♪ Kept me ♪ -♪ Just another day ♪ 709 00:49:33,230 --> 00:49:36,400 -♪ Yes, he did ♪ -♪ Just another day ♪ 710 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,559 ♪ Just another day ♪ 711 00:49:38,650 --> 00:49:40,650 ♪ Just another day ♪ 712 00:49:40,730 --> 00:49:42,650 ♪ That I... ♪ 713 00:49:42,730 --> 00:49:44,190 ♪ Just another day ♪ 714 00:49:44,269 --> 00:49:47,900 -♪ Been by my savior's side ♪ -♪ Just another day... ♪ 715 00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:50,889 Sharon: I lost my best friend and my sister. 716 00:49:50,980 --> 00:49:54,400 -♪ Wanna say he threw ♪ -♪ Just another day... ♪ 717 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,519 Sharon: And I know that the closure 718 00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:01,980 that I need will not come untl the legal process is complete. 719 00:50:02,059 --> 00:50:04,940 ♪ ♪ 720 00:50:14,269 --> 00:50:16,400 ♪ ♪ 721 00:50:20,730 --> 00:50:24,309 Mathis: I assembled a team of special prosecutors. 722 00:50:25,099 --> 00:50:28,769 Two African-American special prosecutors, 723 00:50:28,860 --> 00:50:31,690 a female prosecutor, Anglo, 724 00:50:31,769 --> 00:50:34,519 and two male Anglo prosecutors, 725 00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:39,139 all of which were actually defense attorneys-- 726 00:50:39,230 --> 00:50:43,110 people that would traditionally be antagonistic 727 00:50:43,190 --> 00:50:45,730 toward law enforcement, 728 00:50:45,809 --> 00:50:50,639 to come in and review what happened to Sandy in that jail. 729 00:50:51,730 --> 00:50:53,900 Larry Rogers: The saying is that a prosecutor 730 00:50:53,980 --> 00:50:55,400 can use a grand jury 731 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,610 to indict a ham sandwich. 732 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,230 Basically, whatever result 733 00:51:00,309 --> 00:51:02,889 the prosecutor wants to see come out of the grand jury, 734 00:51:02,980 --> 00:51:06,980 they can manipulate the evidence to secure. 735 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,980 I disagree with the old statement that you can indict a ham sandwich. 736 00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:16,309 My grand jurors have always been smarter than that. 737 00:51:16,940 --> 00:51:20,860 And my grand jurors don't just let me come in and do whatever I want. 738 00:51:26,650 --> 00:51:31,690 Cannon: I think it's a... a farce, the criminal investigation. 739 00:51:32,690 --> 00:51:37,110 I bet you money that the DA down there, they'll say, 740 00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:40,820 "All of the evidence that we presented to the grand jury was assessed, 741 00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:44,360 "and they made a determination that nobody should be charged." 742 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,440 But the practical reality of a grand jury investigation 743 00:51:47,519 --> 00:51:49,440 is that it's not adversarial. 744 00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:53,059 I can't be there, I don't get to submit any evidence. 745 00:51:53,150 --> 00:51:57,360 They get to choose what evidence they submit and what evidence they don't. 746 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,650 They may not choose to submit 747 00:51:59,730 --> 00:52:04,440 any of the dashcam video if they investigate Encinia. 748 00:52:04,519 --> 00:52:09,400 They get to say, "Sandy was pulled over because she failed to use her turn signal. 749 00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:13,440 "She got aggressive, and she had to be arrested." 750 00:52:14,309 --> 00:52:16,349 And there's no way for us to know 751 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,940 whether or not that's all the evidence they really give. 752 00:52:19,019 --> 00:52:21,730 Why? Because it's a secret proceeding. 753 00:52:21,809 --> 00:52:25,349 It's a secret proceeding that no one will ever be able to access. 754 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,769 -Okay. -GPS: In two miles take Exit 2, 755 00:52:27,860 --> 00:52:30,480 -79A for US... to US-20... -Oh! 756 00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:32,940 -...US-45 La Grange Road. -Okay. 757 00:52:37,019 --> 00:52:40,980 This is in Maryland, they have a mobile billboard 758 00:52:41,059 --> 00:52:45,769 that says "Department of Justice, Launch an Investigation. 759 00:52:45,860 --> 00:52:47,860 Justice for Sandra Bland." 760 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,570 That was on the side of someone's truck. 761 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:56,809 I feel like a large part of the world has glossed over the stop, 762 00:52:56,900 --> 00:52:59,480 and they just talk about how she got in jail 763 00:52:59,559 --> 00:53:02,309 and what may have happened in jail. 764 00:53:02,860 --> 00:53:04,989 When you terminate someone, 765 00:53:05,059 --> 00:53:07,809 you are letting them know that you have broken protocol. 766 00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:10,530 and you have put us as an organization at risk. 767 00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:15,099 And so why that hasn't happened with Officer Encinia, I don't know. 768 00:53:22,150 --> 00:53:26,070 I mean, your emotions are too raw to even come to a grave and visit anybody. 769 00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:28,030 So the last couple of weeks, I mean, she was-- 770 00:53:28,099 --> 00:53:31,230 even though she passed away on the 13th, she wasn't buried until the 25th. 771 00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:40,349 Newsman: Authorities say Bland had drugs in her system 772 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,110 at the time of her death. 773 00:53:42,190 --> 00:53:46,769 There have been some instances or claims 774 00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:50,360 about a substantial amount of marijuana found in her system. 775 00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:52,730 I can tell you that there has been 776 00:53:52,809 --> 00:53:55,940 a confirmation of those results. 777 00:53:56,019 --> 00:53:57,980 ♪ ♪ 778 00:53:58,059 --> 00:54:00,059 Warren Diepraam: One thing was pretty certain was 779 00:54:00,150 --> 00:54:03,980 that she had a substantial amount of marijuana in her body. 780 00:54:05,099 --> 00:54:08,559 To me it was interesting fact, because it plays on her psyche, 781 00:54:08,650 --> 00:54:11,400 it plays onto why she may have been suicidal 782 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,559 and why nobody knew about it. 783 00:54:14,019 --> 00:54:18,150 Cannon: What they've tried to suggest, by marijuana, 784 00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:21,190 is a crock, is a crock of manure. 785 00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:26,230 And it was a direct attack on her character. 786 00:54:29,769 --> 00:54:32,440 Mathis: Sandra Bland was very combative. 787 00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:35,519 -Judge: What does that mean? -It was, um... 788 00:54:36,860 --> 00:54:39,900 It was not a model traffic stop, 789 00:54:39,980 --> 00:54:44,980 or-- and it was not a model person that was stopped on a traffic stop. 790 00:54:45,059 --> 00:54:47,190 ♪ ♪ 791 00:54:49,730 --> 00:54:54,230 Cannon: We went to the auto shop, where the car was. 792 00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:57,389 This is the purse that she had in the car. 793 00:54:58,309 --> 00:55:03,230 We also found the cigarette that she was asked to put out. 794 00:55:03,309 --> 00:55:04,980 And she put it out. 795 00:55:05,059 --> 00:55:08,190 The area where you put out a cigarette, 796 00:55:08,269 --> 00:55:11,059 it was sticking, standing straight up. 797 00:55:12,269 --> 00:55:16,150 So even though she said, "I don't have to put it out," she put it out. 798 00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:20,360 And even in spite of that, she was still made to get out of the car. 799 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,570 ♪ ♪ 800 00:55:26,190 --> 00:55:29,070 "Death and life are in the power of the tongue, 801 00:55:29,860 --> 00:55:34,030 and those who lose it, will eat its fruit." 802 00:55:35,059 --> 00:55:38,309 Man, that is a word. 803 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,650 Hmm. 804 00:55:39,730 --> 00:55:41,769 ♪ ♪ 805 00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:45,110 Geneva: How did Sandy die? 806 00:55:45,190 --> 00:55:48,480 Well, now we're trying to say, "Oh! 807 00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:50,230 "Let's not look at what really happened. 808 00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:54,230 Let's talk about this marijuana that was in her system." 809 00:55:55,809 --> 00:56:02,389 And so now she changes from the poor young lady who passed in a jail cell 810 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:07,440 to "Oh, she was crazy. She had a mental illness." 811 00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:11,730 You can throw all of the... insults, 812 00:56:11,809 --> 00:56:13,980 you can throw all of what you want to throw, 813 00:56:14,059 --> 00:56:17,849 I'm still going to stand until everything is uncovered. 814 00:56:17,940 --> 00:56:20,269 Newswoman: Bland's autopsy has been completed... 815 00:56:20,349 --> 00:56:22,519 (news broadcasts overlapping) 816 00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:29,639 (distant sirens wailing) 817 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,900 Cannon: I'm going to have the press conference tomorrow morning at nine. 818 00:56:35,980 --> 00:56:38,230 I mean, we're going to get up there and we're going say, 819 00:56:38,309 --> 00:56:39,980 "We've made the decision at this time, 820 00:56:40,059 --> 00:56:41,730 that it's necessary for us to file suit." 821 00:56:41,809 --> 00:56:45,639 "Why now? The reason we're suing now is, they're making us file. 822 00:56:45,730 --> 00:56:50,059 We've asked for the same information that the media's released. Right? 823 00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:54,980 They're giving it piecemeal to the media in a way that helps them. 824 00:56:55,059 --> 00:56:57,269 Rogers: We're forced to litigate this 825 00:56:57,349 --> 00:57:00,059 because we have an in-custody death that's unexplained. 826 00:57:00,150 --> 00:57:03,320 We're not getting information. We need to know the true time of death. 827 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,280 Was it on the 13th? Was it the 12th? Was the rigor mortis set in? 828 00:57:07,349 --> 00:57:09,269 All of those things are unknown. 829 00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:15,599 The doctor that did our independent autopsy does not have the gastric content, 830 00:57:15,690 --> 00:57:17,570 because that's still in their possession. 831 00:57:17,650 --> 00:57:19,900 She doesn't have the ligature, that's still in their possession. 832 00:57:19,980 --> 00:57:22,900 -And then try to spin it back to the arrest. -What do you think? 833 00:57:22,980 --> 00:57:24,769 Ted Diamantopoulos: Police officers know where the video is. 834 00:57:24,860 --> 00:57:27,440 So at the point where she's not in the video, 835 00:57:27,519 --> 00:57:29,769 the police officer did something else to her. 836 00:57:29,860 --> 00:57:32,070 Obviously, she wouldn't just say, "You're breaking my wrist..." 837 00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:34,730 -Correct, correct. -...outside the scope of the camera. 838 00:57:34,809 --> 00:57:36,690 -Okay, they know exactly where it is. -Mm-hmm 839 00:57:36,769 --> 00:57:39,519 So that's kind of how we frame it. 840 00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:43,269 That they're trained to go outside of the view of the camera. 841 00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:44,599 -Yeah. -Mm-hmm. 842 00:57:44,690 --> 00:57:47,440 Tom Rhodes: Okay. Rangers are our friends. 843 00:57:47,519 --> 00:57:52,980 They are really good at coming in and taking care of issues like this. 844 00:57:53,059 --> 00:57:56,690 Geneva: I don't think that there's ever been an issue like this. 845 00:57:56,769 --> 00:57:58,480 When I sent my family down here, 846 00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:01,769 they were supposed to be coming back with Sandy's items. 847 00:58:01,860 --> 00:58:04,360 They were supposed to-- we were told we could get her phone, 848 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,150 we were told we could get all of that. 849 00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:09,230 And when they got here, that totally flipped around. 850 00:58:09,309 --> 00:58:11,849 And so, now... 851 00:58:12,730 --> 00:58:14,900 we gotta do what we have to do. 852 00:58:16,980 --> 00:58:21,400 The family of Sandra Bland will be filing suit on August 4, 2015, 853 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:26,769 uh, at the federal courthouse, Houston. 854 00:58:27,940 --> 00:58:30,059 ♪ ♪ 855 00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,190 -Have a nice day. -Geneva: Thank you. 856 00:58:36,269 --> 00:58:38,230 You know that they say, don't mess with Texas? 857 00:58:38,309 --> 00:58:40,230 But we're down here to mess with Texas. 858 00:58:40,309 --> 00:58:42,099 Or they got the message. 859 00:58:48,769 --> 00:58:50,809 ♪ ♪ 860 00:58:58,769 --> 00:59:01,809 Cannon: We sued Waller County sheriff, Brian Encinia. 861 00:59:01,900 --> 00:59:06,980 We sued both of the booking officers at Waller County. 862 00:59:07,769 --> 00:59:10,559 There's the assault and battery counts, 863 00:59:10,650 --> 00:59:12,570 there's the wrongful death count, 864 00:59:12,650 --> 00:59:15,070 there's the survival count. 865 00:59:15,150 --> 00:59:19,150 There were constitutional rights that were violated. 866 00:59:20,809 --> 00:59:25,059 People in this country have died for the opportunity to make sure 867 00:59:25,150 --> 00:59:27,320 that we have a voice at this point. 868 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,030 And we're going to muster the strength to use it. 869 00:59:31,099 --> 00:59:34,929 And when you file suit, you're saying, 870 00:59:35,019 --> 00:59:37,019 this wasn't right. 871 00:59:37,099 --> 00:59:40,019 And you might be, quote, "the man," 872 00:59:40,099 --> 00:59:43,099 you might be, quote, "the system," 873 00:59:43,940 --> 00:59:47,570 but we feel like something's got to change. 874 00:59:47,650 --> 00:59:49,820 (indistinct conversations) 875 00:59:58,019 --> 00:59:59,849 Cannon: Folks, thanks very much for coming. 876 00:59:59,940 --> 01:00:04,940 We, in filing this lawsuit, are looking to hold those who are responsible 877 01:00:05,019 --> 01:00:10,269 for the stop, and Sandy's ultimate death, accountable. 878 01:00:10,349 --> 01:00:12,980 Newsman: This is a homicide or a suicide? 879 01:00:13,059 --> 01:00:16,480 Cannon: This family is a reasonable family. 880 01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:21,480 In the face of Sandy being the light that she was, 881 01:00:21,559 --> 01:00:24,559 it is very difficult for them to get their minds around 882 01:00:24,650 --> 01:00:27,400 the notion that she would hurt herself. 883 01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:32,480 Newsman: What happened to Sandy is indicative of a larger conversation. 884 01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:36,519 How does Sandra Bland's story play into that larger narrative? 885 01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:40,480 If, ultimately, the answer to your question is, unfortunately, 886 01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:43,980 that Sandy took her own life, does that at all change? 887 01:00:44,059 --> 01:00:46,139 Sharon: She should not have been there in the first place. 888 01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:47,519 The fact that she was pulled over 889 01:00:47,730 --> 01:00:50,480 for a failure to signal a lane change, okay, 890 01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:54,809 the fact that she honestly and was forthcoming and complying 891 01:00:54,900 --> 01:00:58,570 with the police officer when he asked her for her identification. 892 01:00:58,650 --> 01:01:00,400 That's what he asked her for. 893 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,809 The other ask of her, and where his tone changed 894 01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:05,110 was when he asked her to put her cigarette out. 895 01:01:05,190 --> 01:01:08,480 To which she replied, "I don't have to put my cigarette out, 896 01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:10,230 "I'm in my own vehicle." 897 01:01:10,309 --> 01:01:13,809 There's a seismic shift in the conversation that takes place there. 898 01:01:13,900 --> 01:01:17,690 It's unfortunate, and I think that the key word to remember here 899 01:01:17,769 --> 01:01:21,150 is the inability to de-escalate the situation. 900 01:01:21,230 --> 01:01:23,900 The fact that the situation escalated in such a way 901 01:01:23,980 --> 01:01:29,019 that we have a young lady who was merely on her way to get groceries, 902 01:01:29,099 --> 01:01:32,179 on her way to get groceries to stock her refrigerator, 903 01:01:32,269 --> 01:01:35,730 on a Friday afternoon, she ends up jailed, 904 01:01:35,809 --> 01:01:38,309 she ends up dying in police custody. 905 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,690 We are three weeks out from Sandra's death. 906 01:01:41,769 --> 01:01:44,519 We are a week out from burying her, 907 01:01:44,599 --> 01:01:47,139 and we still don't know what happened to her. 908 01:01:47,230 --> 01:01:49,400 (indistinct chattering) 909 01:01:51,099 --> 01:01:54,730 Woman: You can't have somebody who speaks this message... 910 01:01:54,809 --> 01:01:58,349 -That's right. That's right. -...that is suicidal. 911 01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:59,980 -Man: No way. -Woman: No way. 912 01:02:00,059 --> 01:02:01,519 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 913 01:02:01,599 --> 01:02:03,519 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 914 01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:05,349 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 915 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,150 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 916 01:02:07,230 --> 01:02:09,860 Newsman: The local sheriff, shedding new light on their statement 917 01:02:09,940 --> 01:02:12,309 that Sandra Bland committed suicide. 918 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,650 Releasing this intake form from the day Bland was jailed, 919 01:02:15,730 --> 01:02:20,059 with a startling admission: she attempted suicide within the last year. 920 01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:23,730 But to the question: Are you thinking about killing yourself today? 921 01:02:23,809 --> 01:02:25,940 Sandra answering no. 922 01:02:31,150 --> 01:02:34,150 Mathis: I can understand where she was probably scared. 923 01:02:35,019 --> 01:02:38,400 She was likely going to lose her job at her alma mater, 924 01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,309 that she had just gotten, 925 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,400 because now, she picked up a felony. 926 01:02:47,150 --> 01:02:51,030 She had lost a baby 14 months prior. 927 01:02:56,150 --> 01:02:59,860 "I'm in a new location, far away from my family." 928 01:03:00,690 --> 01:03:03,110 They knew what her bond was. 929 01:03:03,190 --> 01:03:05,360 She wasn't being bonded out. 930 01:03:09,150 --> 01:03:11,190 ♪ ♪ 931 01:03:13,150 --> 01:03:17,730 She's sitting there thinking about, what am I going to do. 932 01:03:20,860 --> 01:03:23,280 Smith: She come in here Friday afternoon, 933 01:03:23,349 --> 01:03:26,179 as an aggravated, upset individual 934 01:03:26,269 --> 01:03:28,730 that probably any of us would have been. 935 01:03:33,190 --> 01:03:35,480 You got a concrete floor, 936 01:03:35,559 --> 01:03:39,519 concrete walls, and a solid iron door. 937 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:47,900 Your physical body with a high level of THC is working. 938 01:03:49,190 --> 01:03:52,900 And by Monday morning, your world has-- 939 01:03:52,980 --> 01:03:56,099 in your mind, your world has ended. 940 01:03:56,190 --> 01:03:58,269 ♪ ♪ 941 01:04:00,769 --> 01:04:03,059 Brian Cantrell: Suicide is extremely tough. 942 01:04:03,150 --> 01:04:05,650 I can't imagine what her family has gone through. 943 01:04:05,730 --> 01:04:08,940 I, too, have had close family members 944 01:04:09,019 --> 01:04:10,349 that have taken their life 945 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,150 and it's hard to understand. 946 01:04:15,349 --> 01:04:18,599 Smith: Did she want to do that in completion, 947 01:04:18,690 --> 01:04:23,190 or did she do it by accident, 948 01:04:23,269 --> 01:04:27,809 wanting to be, maybe caught, for extra attention? 949 01:04:27,900 --> 01:04:32,070 Those things, you know, none of us would ever know. 950 01:04:32,150 --> 01:04:34,280 ♪ ♪ 951 01:04:35,980 --> 01:04:38,440 Sharon: I was there for the miscarriage. 952 01:04:38,519 --> 01:04:40,349 I was at the hospital with her and everything, 953 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,190 and she was, she was sad. 954 01:04:42,269 --> 01:04:43,519 ♪ ♪ 955 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,650 But I was not knowledgeable of any suicide attempt. 956 01:04:50,809 --> 01:04:52,230 Marland: Sharon called. 957 01:04:52,309 --> 01:04:55,190 She said, "They're saying that she committed suicide." 958 01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:01,110 And that just wasn't the Sandy that I knew. 959 01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:03,309 (horns honking) 960 01:05:04,860 --> 01:05:08,070 About a month before the unfortunate incident, 961 01:05:08,150 --> 01:05:11,320 she had said, "Reverend Brazier, I think I got my purpose. 962 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,320 I think I know what I want to do." 963 01:05:13,940 --> 01:05:16,980 She came out from under the table with this... 964 01:05:17,059 --> 01:05:19,440 (laughs) it was a binder, 965 01:05:19,519 --> 01:05:22,519 about an inch and a half, two inches thick, 966 01:05:22,599 --> 01:05:27,929 of all this research that she had done on police brutality. 967 01:05:28,019 --> 01:05:31,690 Body cams, Trayvon Martin, you know, legislation. 968 01:05:31,769 --> 01:05:35,440 Sandra: My job has become, helping wherever I can. 969 01:05:35,519 --> 01:05:39,230 Inspired by the Million Man March, there was the creation 970 01:05:39,309 --> 01:05:41,849 of the National African-American parent involvement... 971 01:05:41,940 --> 01:05:44,820 Racism is still alive today, and it still... 972 01:05:44,900 --> 01:05:46,440 All the odds are against us. 973 01:05:46,519 --> 01:05:50,769 In Ferguson, there were two gentlemen who decided to disrupt 974 01:05:50,860 --> 01:05:54,989 a peaceful protest and shoot into the crowd. 975 01:05:55,059 --> 01:05:57,190 Y'all, this has got to stop. 976 01:05:57,269 --> 01:06:01,440 Cannon: When you see somebody who is such an advocate 977 01:06:01,519 --> 01:06:03,309 for the people coming behind her, 978 01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,280 it is very difficult to understand why she would decide to kill herself. 979 01:06:07,349 --> 01:06:09,139 Sandra: We have a job to do. 980 01:06:09,230 --> 01:06:10,730 Cannon: That just does not jive. 981 01:06:10,809 --> 01:06:12,389 Sandra: You got to conquer hate with love. 982 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:13,980 Where somebody is being racist... 983 01:06:14,059 --> 01:06:18,190 Let's get to work. I'm ready. What about you? 984 01:06:19,059 --> 01:06:21,690 Mosley: I knew instantly that it was a cover-up. 985 01:06:21,769 --> 01:06:24,150 because I know that that wasn't in her character. 986 01:06:24,230 --> 01:06:26,730 I had talked to her, I had seen her. 987 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,900 And if you know Sandra Bland, you know, she's had much harder tims 988 01:06:30,980 --> 01:06:34,019 than sitting in jail for three days. 989 01:06:36,860 --> 01:06:41,400 Carl Moore: In 2009, Sandra was charged with possession of marijuana. 990 01:06:42,190 --> 01:06:44,480 It was a personal use amount, 991 01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:46,809 but we ended up getting that case dismissed. 992 01:06:47,349 --> 01:06:50,980 In 2010, she was arrested for DWI, 993 01:06:51,059 --> 01:06:54,599 as well as possession of marijuana, again. 994 01:06:55,809 --> 01:06:56,940 Thirty-six. 995 01:06:57,769 --> 01:07:00,900 Mosley: In lieu of paying the ticket because you can't afford it, 996 01:07:00,980 --> 01:07:03,860 they'll let you sit the ticket out in jail. 997 01:07:04,269 --> 01:07:06,769 They charge X amount of dollars per day, 998 01:07:06,860 --> 01:07:09,360 and when you get to whatever that amount is, 999 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:10,940 they release you. 1000 01:07:12,940 --> 01:07:15,860 Sandy went to Harris County and sat for 30 days. 1001 01:07:15,940 --> 01:07:19,269 And then she came to Waller and sat out two weeks. 1002 01:07:20,019 --> 01:07:21,519 She knew that was her responsibility 1003 01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:23,309 and wanted to take care of it. 1004 01:07:24,769 --> 01:07:29,809 There are uneducated people who are hellbent on self-extermination. 1005 01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:33,780 I am not one of them. I am into building up my kings and queens. 1006 01:07:33,860 --> 01:07:36,570 So for me, black lives matter. 1007 01:07:36,650 --> 01:07:39,480 And then, subset, all lives matter. 1008 01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:44,559 Woman: It is not okay that we have to create a hashtag, 1009 01:07:44,650 --> 01:07:46,570 "If I die in police custody." 1010 01:07:46,650 --> 01:07:50,320 (chanting): Black lives matter! Black lives matter! 1011 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,190 Duhon: It went from sadness to utter frustration. 1012 01:07:54,269 --> 01:07:57,900 What I saw was an incredible amount of misinformation. 1013 01:07:57,980 --> 01:08:00,400 And it just kept on, kind of, 1014 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,980 getting bigger and bigger and bigger. 1015 01:08:03,059 --> 01:08:08,059 And then you started to see things that were outright lies. 1016 01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:11,610 Man (over video): Sandra's done with her mugshots. I believe... 1017 01:08:11,690 --> 01:08:15,610 that the best way to get away with murdering her 1018 01:08:15,690 --> 01:08:19,359 was to stage the entire booking. 1019 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,109 (automated voice): When she is allegedly 1020 01:08:21,189 --> 01:08:23,520 brought out of the holding cell to have her mugshot taken, 1021 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,270 her face is blurred out through the entire segment. 1022 01:08:26,350 --> 01:08:29,770 Man: One of the most heavily discussed pieces of evidence is Bland's mugshot. 1023 01:08:29,859 --> 01:08:31,739 Many are postulating that she was already dead 1024 01:08:31,810 --> 01:08:33,140 when her photo was taken by police. 1025 01:08:33,229 --> 01:08:35,109 (automated voice): When getting a mugshot taken, 1026 01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:38,109 prisoners are told not to lean on the wall behind them. 1027 01:08:38,189 --> 01:08:40,770 Man: See that? He's wearing gloves. 1028 01:08:40,859 --> 01:08:44,109 Duhon: All these videos that were being put out on YouTube, 1029 01:08:44,189 --> 01:08:45,819 going through step-by-step 1030 01:08:45,899 --> 01:08:48,529 about how she was deceased before she even got to the jail, 1031 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,640 (automated voice): You can clearly see in this image that Sandra was 1032 01:08:51,729 --> 01:08:54,310 flat against the supposed wall behind her. 1033 01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:56,229 Then that's when you started to see 1034 01:08:56,310 --> 01:08:59,140 where we were receiving the death threats. 1035 01:08:59,229 --> 01:09:01,229 ♪ ♪ 1036 01:09:01,649 --> 01:09:05,729 Mathis: People wanting to kill me, kill the sheriff. 1037 01:09:07,229 --> 01:09:10,939 I completely understand why there are groups of people 1038 01:09:11,020 --> 01:09:12,729 that think we killed that gir. 1039 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:17,270 Because we're in the South, maybe because we talk a little slower. 1040 01:09:17,350 --> 01:09:20,100 Got this big, white, Bubba-looking guy, 1041 01:09:20,189 --> 01:09:22,319 that he must be a racist, 1042 01:09:22,399 --> 01:09:25,109 he must not like black people. Um... 1043 01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:28,689 He can't be trusted to get justice for Sandy. 1044 01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:35,609 Now this is a perfect storm for the country 1045 01:09:35,689 --> 01:09:39,399 to be divided and angry. 1046 01:09:41,189 --> 01:09:44,069 (protesters shouting) 1047 01:09:49,020 --> 01:09:50,189 Back up! Back up! 1048 01:09:50,270 --> 01:09:52,149 Man 2: We've still got some people inside! 1049 01:09:52,229 --> 01:09:54,979 (chanting): Let them out! Let them out! 1050 01:09:55,060 --> 01:09:56,270 Open the door! 1051 01:09:56,350 --> 01:09:58,020 All (chanting): Let them out! Let them out! 1052 01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:00,100 Let them out! Let them out! 1053 01:10:00,189 --> 01:10:01,649 Let them out! 1054 01:10:01,729 --> 01:10:04,560 (indistinct shouting) 1055 01:10:04,649 --> 01:10:07,439 (clamoring) 1056 01:10:10,399 --> 01:10:12,729 (indistinct shouting) 1057 01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:20,149 (shouting continuing) 1058 01:10:22,649 --> 01:10:24,229 All (chanting): Sandy still speaks! 1059 01:10:24,310 --> 01:10:25,939 -Let's go! -Sandy still speaks! 1060 01:10:26,020 --> 01:10:27,979 -Let's go! -Sandy still speaks! 1061 01:10:28,060 --> 01:10:29,689 -Let's go! -Sandy still speaks! 1062 01:10:29,770 --> 01:10:32,560 Duhon: On the other side of the wall is our 9-1-1 dispatchers 1063 01:10:32,649 --> 01:10:34,729 who are receiving emergency calls, 1064 01:10:34,810 --> 01:10:38,229 and then you have a group of people with bullhorns. 1065 01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:39,939 All: Sandy still speaks! 1066 01:10:40,020 --> 01:10:42,729 Duhon: Our 911 dispatchers couldn't even hear the phone calls. 1067 01:10:42,810 --> 01:10:44,390 All: Sandy still speaks! 1068 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:48,229 Duhon: We had to get those people to vacate the front lobby. 1069 01:10:48,310 --> 01:10:51,270 (clamoring) 1070 01:10:54,149 --> 01:10:58,979 Smith: I spent several nights here, at the office, on my couch 1071 01:10:59,060 --> 01:11:01,689 because I was not gonna leave here 1072 01:11:01,770 --> 01:11:06,149 with employees, knowing they've got to be here all night. 1073 01:11:06,229 --> 01:11:08,060 Woman: Sandy's still speaking out! 1074 01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:09,859 Y'all killed her! 1075 01:11:09,939 --> 01:11:13,689 Which one of you two white boys went back there and do it? We saw the video. 1076 01:11:13,770 --> 01:11:15,649 -Officer: Come on. -Woman: Hey! Get off of me! 1077 01:11:15,729 --> 01:11:17,560 (clamoring) 1078 01:11:19,689 --> 01:11:21,439 If there's anybody left in there... 1079 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,899 Mathis: You had the whole country looking at what was going on.. 1080 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,649 with law enforcement under attack, with our past. 1081 01:11:30,939 --> 01:11:33,569 We need to just calm the hell down, 1082 01:11:33,649 --> 01:11:36,439 and we need to start looking at what happened, 1083 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,399 and not what we think happened. 1084 01:11:39,810 --> 01:11:41,729 And more importantly... 1085 01:11:43,859 --> 01:11:46,229 not what we want to have happened. 1086 01:11:48,399 --> 01:11:51,399 ♪ Ms. Bland, I'm sorry I don't understand ♪ 1087 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,359 ♪ Why they had to take you, but I blame that on the man ♪ 1088 01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,109 ♪ Intimidated that you had the voice to speak the truth ♪ 1089 01:11:57,189 --> 01:12:00,149 ♪ Black lives matter, but they'd rather have you in the noose ♪ 1090 01:12:00,229 --> 01:12:03,229 ♪ It hurts to think that this could be my sisters and my fam ♪ 1091 01:12:03,310 --> 01:12:06,310 ♪ Got me lookin' to the sky, yelling like, "Goddamn!" ♪ 1092 01:12:06,399 --> 01:12:09,279 ♪ Why you have to take this queen from her own land? ♪ 1093 01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:12,770 ♪ Five-O sleep in their cells, feeling like homeland... ♪ 1094 01:12:13,229 --> 01:12:14,399 Girl: No! 1095 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:17,689 We're doing it! 1096 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,810 Sharon: This is from the homecoming, from fall, 2014. 1097 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,600 This picture is from this year. 1098 01:12:29,270 --> 01:12:32,479 A month and a half before she passed away. 1099 01:12:32,979 --> 01:12:35,649 This is from a family dinner this year. 1100 01:12:36,979 --> 01:12:40,350 This had to have been within the last year and a half, 1101 01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:44,149 because my daughter must have been one and a half, here. 1102 01:12:44,229 --> 01:12:46,939 This is actually from last summer. 1103 01:12:51,270 --> 01:12:53,399 (sobbing) 1104 01:13:03,979 --> 01:13:06,020 ♪ ♪ 1105 01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,979 Amy Lambert: Now, Cannon is heavily involved. 1106 01:13:19,979 --> 01:13:22,479 Life has changed in a blink of an eye. 1107 01:13:22,899 --> 01:13:27,319 One moment we went from being as a family, 1108 01:13:27,399 --> 01:13:30,399 to at any given moment, Cannon was gone, 1109 01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:33,770 and I didn't know when Cannon was coming back. 1110 01:13:35,310 --> 01:13:38,770 Death threats left on his phone. 1111 01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,520 Worrying for the kids' and my safety. 1112 01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,109 (voicemail beeps) 1113 01:13:47,189 --> 01:13:51,189 Man (over phone): Yes, uh, Mr. Lambert, I do have psychic abilities. 1114 01:13:52,189 --> 01:13:55,189 There's going to be an attempt made on your life this week. 1115 01:13:56,810 --> 01:14:00,560 You're delving into what's called the Code of Silence. 1116 01:14:00,649 --> 01:14:03,899 And it isn't only in the Chicago Police Department. 1117 01:14:03,979 --> 01:14:08,060 It's especially true in, uh, the state of Texas. 1118 01:14:08,859 --> 01:14:12,779 They always have a problem with, uh, Afro-Americans 1119 01:14:12,859 --> 01:14:15,859 who are so-called social activists. 1120 01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:19,810 Please be very careful, Mr. Lambert. 1121 01:14:31,229 --> 01:14:36,399 Cannon: The thing that really stuck out to me when I read this motion was that, 1122 01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,310 it says, "It is apparent now, 1123 01:14:39,399 --> 01:14:42,649 "that Bland's inability to secure her release from jail, 1124 01:14:42,729 --> 01:14:46,479 "and her family and friends' refusal to bail her out of jail, 1125 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,439 led her to commit suicide." 1126 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:55,729 Um, you're not just blaming the victim, you're blaming the family. 1127 01:14:58,979 --> 01:15:02,979 Mathis: We know that she was able to make contact with her family. 1128 01:15:03,060 --> 01:15:06,140 They knew that she needed to be bonded out. 1129 01:15:06,770 --> 01:15:09,689 And Mr. Booker, the bondsman, 1130 01:15:09,770 --> 01:15:12,850 he's got pretty much 24-hour access to the jail. 1131 01:15:12,939 --> 01:15:16,979 So, once your bond is set, he can go in there and get somebody out 1132 01:15:17,060 --> 01:15:19,770 pretty much whenever he wants. 1133 01:15:22,100 --> 01:15:28,020 Cannon: They find out, in the early evening on Saturday, 1134 01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,770 and by Sunday night, they're ready to get her out. 1135 01:15:32,350 --> 01:15:36,729 They called the next morning, on Monday morning, and she was gon. 1136 01:15:38,770 --> 01:15:42,149 A day and a half transpired, that's not a lot of time. 1137 01:15:42,229 --> 01:15:43,520 It's just not. 1138 01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:47,149 I know why they're trying to make it out to be. 1139 01:15:49,979 --> 01:15:52,979 How do you file that type of proceeding and, uh, by the way, 1140 01:15:53,060 --> 01:15:57,560 you've not even deposed the people you are claiming are responsible. 1141 01:15:57,649 --> 01:16:01,029 You've never spoken to them. You don't know what's in their minds. 1142 01:16:01,100 --> 01:16:04,270 What about you, Waller County? What about you, jailers? 1143 01:16:04,350 --> 01:16:07,850 What about you not paying attention to where she was at, 1144 01:16:07,939 --> 01:16:09,939 what she was doing, how she was feeling? 1145 01:16:10,020 --> 01:16:11,770 (protesters chanting) 1146 01:16:11,859 --> 01:16:15,529 You know, you can't orchestrate the frustration, 1147 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:19,810 and you can't control the desire to see change. 1148 01:16:19,899 --> 01:16:22,029 (protesters chanting) 1149 01:16:23,149 --> 01:16:25,279 Man (over bullhorn): This is the New York City Police Department. 1150 01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:26,810 Please be advised... 1151 01:16:26,899 --> 01:16:29,229 -What's her name? -(indistinct) 1152 01:16:29,310 --> 01:16:31,229 -Say her name! -Sandra Bland! 1153 01:16:31,310 --> 01:16:33,390 Woman: We're in a state of war right now! 1154 01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:34,609 This is war! 1155 01:16:34,689 --> 01:16:36,270 All (chanting): United we stand! 1156 01:16:36,350 --> 01:16:38,350 We're doing this for Sandra Bland! 1157 01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:40,060 United we stand! 1158 01:16:40,149 --> 01:16:41,779 We're doing this for Sandra Bland! 1159 01:16:41,859 --> 01:16:43,939 -(sirens blaring) -Protesters: Sandra Bland! 1160 01:16:44,020 --> 01:16:45,520 Sandra Bland! 1161 01:16:45,810 --> 01:16:47,390 -Sandra Bland! -Say her name! 1162 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,020 -Sandra Bland! -Say her name! 1163 01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:50,600 -Sandra Bland! -Say her name! 1164 01:16:50,689 --> 01:16:52,520 -Sandra Bland! Won't you say her name! -Say her name! 1165 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,180 Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! 1166 01:16:56,270 --> 01:17:00,060 Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! Say her name! 1167 01:17:00,149 --> 01:17:03,979 All: ♪ Hell, you talkin' 'bout ♪ 1168 01:17:04,060 --> 01:17:05,770 ♪ Hell, you talkin' 'bout ♪ 1169 01:17:05,859 --> 01:17:07,279 ♪ Hell, you talkin' 'bout ♪ 1170 01:17:07,350 --> 01:17:10,979 ♪ Hell, you talkin' 'bout ♪ 1171 01:17:11,060 --> 01:17:14,729 ♪ Hell, you talkin' 'bout, Hell, you talkin' 'bout ♪ 1172 01:17:28,729 --> 01:17:29,859 (camera clicks) 1173 01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:32,729 (camera clicks) 1174 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,640 Dr. Joye Carter: The autopsy is, you know, our investigative tool. 1175 01:17:38,729 --> 01:17:41,439 So you have to be thinking forward. 1176 01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:48,850 She did have a well-formed ligature mark which had a V behind her left ear. 1177 01:17:48,939 --> 01:17:51,569 And that's the point of suspension. 1178 01:17:53,270 --> 01:17:56,189 It appears that she was not hanging 1179 01:17:56,270 --> 01:17:58,689 but perhaps seated with her head forward, 1180 01:17:58,770 --> 01:18:00,479 which is not uncommon. 1181 01:18:01,350 --> 01:18:05,390 As the blood flow decreases, then you really get sleepy. 1182 01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,569 Cannon: Is there any indication at all 1183 01:18:11,649 --> 01:18:13,399 that there could have been some foul play? 1184 01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:17,229 Are you in a place where you can render an opinion right now? 1185 01:18:18,350 --> 01:18:22,100 Carter: You have real injuries that could not have resulted 1186 01:18:22,189 --> 01:18:26,939 from a hanging, but from blunt force being applied to the back of the body. 1187 01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:31,600 She had scrapes on her upper right side of her back. 1188 01:18:31,689 --> 01:18:36,649 And yet there is no tissue that is labeled soft tissue from the back. 1189 01:18:37,939 --> 01:18:39,979 ♪ ♪ 1190 01:18:41,689 --> 01:18:43,479 Questions are still there. 1191 01:18:43,770 --> 01:18:48,479 -I have to go through everything before I render an an opinion. -Cannon: Yeah. 1192 01:18:51,859 --> 01:18:55,279 The Waller County grand jury, as of about 3:30 today, 1193 01:18:55,350 --> 01:19:00,479 has issued an indictment against State Trooper Brian Encinia for perjury. 1194 01:19:01,270 --> 01:19:03,060 Newswoman: Is that the only charge he's facing? 1195 01:19:03,149 --> 01:19:06,229 That's the only charge that the grand jury issued an indictment on. 1196 01:19:06,310 --> 01:19:09,640 The indictment was issued in reference to the reason 1197 01:19:09,729 --> 01:19:11,770 that he removed her from her vehicle. 1198 01:19:11,859 --> 01:19:17,649 It is a class A misdemeanor, excuse me, up to a year in jail and up to a $4,000 fine. 1199 01:19:17,729 --> 01:19:18,939 Sandra: I can't even... 1200 01:19:19,020 --> 01:19:20,560 I can't even fucking feel my arm! 1201 01:19:20,649 --> 01:19:22,939 Geneva: This guy's gonna get the minimal slap on the wrist 1202 01:19:23,020 --> 01:19:28,560 for the initial lie that put my daughter behind bars. 1203 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:39,060 Here's a guy who should have clearly been charged with assault, 1204 01:19:40,020 --> 01:19:41,399 battery. 1205 01:19:42,229 --> 01:19:45,270 And I'm going to tell you that I can say, 1206 01:19:45,350 --> 01:19:48,310 "At least we got a perjury charge"? 1207 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:50,729 No. 1208 01:20:05,899 --> 01:20:08,319 Sandra: My white friends, don't get upset, 1209 01:20:08,399 --> 01:20:12,149 but I'm going to call out racism wherever I see it. 1210 01:20:12,229 --> 01:20:16,109 So for you who can say, "Oh, the law doesn't see color," 1211 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,979 it doesn't see color 'cause you ain't got no color in your skin. 1212 01:20:20,899 --> 01:20:26,109 You just don't know. You don't know racism because you don't live it. 1213 01:20:26,189 --> 01:20:28,069 You don't feel it. 1214 01:20:29,689 --> 01:20:33,689 What you may see as just somebody doing their job, 1215 01:20:33,770 --> 01:20:36,560 we see the undertones of that. 1216 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:43,020 We've been trained to see them, because we live them every day. 1217 01:20:43,100 --> 01:20:49,140 Okay, I don't see anything wrong with the officer's actions until we get to the point 1218 01:20:49,229 --> 01:20:51,859 where he asks her to put the cigarette out. 1219 01:20:51,939 --> 01:20:55,020 She very accurately pointed out that she didn't have to put out a cigarette. 1220 01:20:55,100 --> 01:20:57,520 This is a perfect example of exactly how vulnerable black women are 1221 01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,600 in public space to law enforcement. 1222 01:20:59,689 --> 01:21:01,689 -He baited her, you know he did. -She had a problem-- 1223 01:21:01,770 --> 01:21:03,850 She had a problem with being stopped, 1224 01:21:03,939 --> 01:21:05,939 she didn't like the fact that she was being stopped, 1225 01:21:06,020 --> 01:21:08,520 her whole arrogant attitude, and that stop. 1226 01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,680 The officer should not have pulled her over-- 1227 01:21:10,770 --> 01:21:13,310 Hang on. Listen! I wan't everybody to listen. 1228 01:21:13,399 --> 01:21:15,279 Because I think-- Mark! Hang on, Mark! 1229 01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:17,520 Harry is calling arrogance, I'm calling dignity. 1230 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,729 Black people have a right to assert their dignity in public, 1231 01:21:19,810 --> 01:21:22,520 and just because it doesn't cohere with what police want... 1232 01:21:34,060 --> 01:21:36,229 Let's just talk about why we're here a little bit. 1233 01:21:36,310 --> 01:21:43,350 Um, as you all know, Dr. Carter was retained to do a private, preliminary evaluation 1234 01:21:43,810 --> 01:21:46,770 of Sandy's body, 1235 01:21:46,859 --> 01:21:49,229 and come up with some preliminary findings, at this point, 1236 01:21:49,310 --> 01:21:51,560 give you a chance to ask questions, 1237 01:21:51,649 --> 01:21:55,529 with the understanding that this is our confidential conversation, 1238 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,310 and that what you find out here, you don't share. 1239 01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,359 Carter: There are certain things that we look for in forensics 1240 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,939 to give us the ability to say when the death occurred. 1241 01:22:06,020 --> 01:22:10,310 And, uh, you have a short window to document those things. 1242 01:22:10,399 --> 01:22:15,069 The primary one is getting a core body temperature, which was not done. 1243 01:22:15,149 --> 01:22:16,779 And that's what's lost. 1244 01:22:16,859 --> 01:22:20,859 And so at that point, Dr. Carter, when we called you in, you can't... 1245 01:22:20,939 --> 01:22:23,979 Carter: No, I can only go back so far, because by that time, 1246 01:22:24,060 --> 01:22:27,350 refrigeration has taken place, the body has been moved. 1247 01:22:27,810 --> 01:22:30,810 The largest amount of marijuana that shows 1248 01:22:30,899 --> 01:22:36,529 is what we call THC-COOH, or carboxylated, 1249 01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,520 and that means it's metabolized. 1250 01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:40,770 It hangs around the body for forever. 1251 01:22:40,859 --> 01:22:43,939 It is not a whopping amount of drug. 1252 01:22:44,060 --> 01:22:45,689 It was just nonsense. 1253 01:22:46,399 --> 01:22:49,649 And so that was just completely out of bounds. 1254 01:22:49,729 --> 01:22:55,770 Um, there were no fractures, but I found evidence of deep bruising. 1255 01:22:55,859 --> 01:23:01,359 Bruising going all the way through the deep muscles on... on the back, 1256 01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,310 uh, down to the level of the ribs. 1257 01:23:04,399 --> 01:23:09,479 So if someone has put their knee into a back, and they're grinding, 1258 01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,939 that's going to actually destroy the small vessels in the muscular tissue. 1259 01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:18,270 Just let us know if you need a break, okay? 1260 01:23:18,350 --> 01:23:21,430 We want to try to make sure everybody's getting the same information at the same time. 1261 01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,770 If you need to step out, it's okay. 1262 01:23:26,649 --> 01:23:28,859 Go ahead, Shavon. You have a question? 1263 01:23:28,939 --> 01:23:31,939 Shavon: With that kind of scarring going to the ribs, 1264 01:23:32,020 --> 01:23:35,439 would it be complicated for her to breathe, necessarily? 1265 01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,939 Carter: It would have been painful. She would have been in pain. 1266 01:23:39,689 --> 01:23:42,310 I mean, I've had that type of pain, and so, I... 1267 01:23:42,399 --> 01:23:44,859 I'm just trying to, you know, process everything. 1268 01:23:44,939 --> 01:23:47,859 It's not really adding up to me. 1269 01:23:47,939 --> 01:23:51,859 Carter: I wanted to rule out foul play occurring, 1270 01:23:51,939 --> 01:23:54,439 consistent with, with hands placed on. 1271 01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:57,189 I did examine the hyoid bone, it was not fractured. 1272 01:23:57,270 --> 01:24:01,149 We generally see that when we have homicidal strangulation, 1273 01:24:01,229 --> 01:24:04,689 where someone has their hands around the neck. That was not present here. 1274 01:24:04,770 --> 01:24:07,399 Cannon: Correct me if I'm wrong, with homicidal death, 1275 01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,189 you see things like defensive wounds, 1276 01:24:10,270 --> 01:24:13,729 you see things like impressions in the skin... 1277 01:24:13,810 --> 01:24:17,390 -Correct. -Cannon: You didn't find any of those physical findings. 1278 01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:20,689 So we have these open questions, still. 1279 01:24:21,310 --> 01:24:25,390 Will you be able to dust for fingerprints, or have we missed that window? 1280 01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:29,060 That should have been done, but we don't know that they did. 1281 01:24:29,149 --> 01:24:32,189 We asked that question and I was told that they hadn't done that. 1282 01:24:32,270 --> 01:24:38,649 There is a lot of significant and vital information that is missing. 1283 01:24:38,729 --> 01:24:41,439 The bruising on her back and on her legs, 1284 01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:45,020 I mean, yeah, he was on her back for a significant amount of time 1285 01:24:45,100 --> 01:24:47,350 when she was arrested, but I mean, 1286 01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,229 I don't know. It's just, it could have happened while she was sleeping. 1287 01:24:50,310 --> 01:24:53,439 It could have happened while she was laying down her, I mean, I just... 1288 01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:54,600 Rogers: Sure. 1289 01:24:54,689 --> 01:24:57,020 There's a lot of things that are just... 1290 01:24:57,100 --> 01:24:59,270 that just does not add up. 1291 01:24:59,350 --> 01:25:02,270 As lawyers looking at this, we have to approach, 1292 01:25:02,350 --> 01:25:08,520 um, all possibilities and probabilities. 1293 01:25:09,020 --> 01:25:12,060 Carter: My question is what led to this point. 1294 01:25:13,020 --> 01:25:16,229 I have ruled out a homicidal hanging. 1295 01:25:17,189 --> 01:25:19,270 It's not suggestive of that at all. 1296 01:25:19,350 --> 01:25:21,060 But I think this is something-- 1297 01:25:21,149 --> 01:25:24,779 You're supposed to be face-to-face once an hour, 1298 01:25:24,859 --> 01:25:28,109 not looking through a window and guessing. 1299 01:25:28,189 --> 01:25:30,819 This young woman is scared and frightened 1300 01:25:30,899 --> 01:25:35,439 and someone is having emotional pain, physical pain, 1301 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:39,270 isolated, then you have some things that should be considered 1302 01:25:39,350 --> 01:25:41,479 as being driven to. 1303 01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:45,140 You know, we know that someone's spirit can be broken, 1304 01:25:45,229 --> 01:25:47,189 even in a short period of time. 1305 01:25:48,689 --> 01:25:50,649 So sorry for your loss. 1306 01:25:50,729 --> 01:25:52,899 -Thank you. -Thank you. 1307 01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,729 ♪ ♪ 1308 01:26:16,810 --> 01:26:18,939 ♪ ♪ 1309 01:26:27,729 --> 01:26:30,020 Newswoman: The grand jury was released from the courtroom 1310 01:26:30,100 --> 01:26:31,270 just a few minutes ago. 1311 01:26:31,350 --> 01:26:33,270 They just came out. They are done. 1312 01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:36,270 Newswoman 2: Everyone was cleared of wrongdoing at the Waller County Jail 1313 01:26:36,350 --> 01:26:38,180 where Bland died in custody. 1314 01:26:38,270 --> 01:26:40,189 Her death was ruled a suicide, 1315 01:26:40,270 --> 01:26:41,689 her protesters don't believe it. 1316 01:26:41,770 --> 01:26:44,100 -Smith: They have... (indistinct) -(protesters shouting) 1317 01:26:44,189 --> 01:26:47,109 And we just need to let the court system work. 1318 01:26:47,189 --> 01:26:49,229 (indistinct shouting) 1319 01:26:49,729 --> 01:26:53,859 Geneva: I'm sitting there and I'm going, "Wow. Really?" 1320 01:26:54,310 --> 01:26:57,020 Because I'm just mad because my daughter is gone. 1321 01:26:57,100 --> 01:27:02,930 It made me want to get up, even more, because the truth has got to come out. 1322 01:27:03,020 --> 01:27:05,149 ♪ ♪ 1323 01:27:06,149 --> 01:27:09,529 Shavon: To be a strong African-American woman... 1324 01:27:10,149 --> 01:27:13,149 I imagine they were just so irritated 1325 01:27:13,229 --> 01:27:17,359 with her knowledge and her education. 1326 01:27:19,859 --> 01:27:24,279 And just... they got... they got pissed. 1327 01:27:25,899 --> 01:27:28,859 Sharon: The jail has a policy 1328 01:27:28,939 --> 01:27:30,729 that if you bring an inmate in 1329 01:27:30,810 --> 01:27:32,890 and you deem them to be a threat 1330 01:27:32,979 --> 01:27:34,859 or aggressive or what have you, 1331 01:27:34,939 --> 01:27:38,149 you isolate them initially and then you reevaluate them within a 24-hour period. 1332 01:27:38,229 --> 01:27:41,770 We know that that didn't happen for Sandy because she was there 1333 01:27:41,859 --> 01:27:44,569 by herself for three days. 1334 01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,390 She's not combative, she's not aggressive. 1335 01:27:50,229 --> 01:27:52,020 Why single her out? 1336 01:27:57,189 --> 01:27:59,359 (distant siren wailing) 1337 01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:08,520 Protesters: I am here today because last Monday, 1338 01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:13,979 I read that the grand jury refused to indict anyone 1339 01:28:14,060 --> 01:28:17,640 connected to the death of Sandra Bland. 1340 01:28:17,729 --> 01:28:21,810 I am here today because justice was not served. 1341 01:28:21,899 --> 01:28:24,979 I'm here today to grieve the loss 1342 01:28:25,060 --> 01:28:30,770 of not just one black life, but several, whose lives were cut short 1343 01:28:30,859 --> 01:28:32,529 because of injustice. 1344 01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:37,140 I'm here to remember Freddie Gray, to grieve Tamir Rice, 1345 01:28:37,229 --> 01:28:41,359 Karin Smith, Michael Brown, Roshad McIntosh, 1346 01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:44,770 Tanisha Anderson, and many others. 1347 01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,020 Bonner: As a white woman living in America, 1348 01:29:00,100 --> 01:29:05,229 I knew that what happened to Sandra would not happen to me. 1349 01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,060 I would not be threatened with a Taser. 1350 01:29:09,149 --> 01:29:12,479 I would not be taken into custody. 1351 01:29:14,189 --> 01:29:16,359 Regardless of if she had a cigarette, 1352 01:29:16,439 --> 01:29:18,689 regardless of whether she cursed, 1353 01:29:18,770 --> 01:29:22,020 I believe Office Encinia would not have pulled 1354 01:29:22,100 --> 01:29:25,810 Sandra Bland from her car if she looked like me. 1355 01:29:27,729 --> 01:29:31,439 Therefore, racism killed Sandra Bland. 1356 01:29:38,939 --> 01:29:42,229 Mathis: The reason Sandy was taken to jail 1357 01:29:42,310 --> 01:29:46,810 was Brian Encinia's allegations that she assaulted him. 1358 01:29:47,310 --> 01:29:52,100 That's how Sandra was placed in solitary confinement. 1359 01:29:52,189 --> 01:29:56,229 It's because she was the only woman in the jail at that time, 1360 01:29:56,310 --> 01:29:59,770 that came under that classification that put her there. 1361 01:30:00,310 --> 01:30:04,350 And the reason there's no photograph of Sandy hanging in the jail 1362 01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,770 is because when the jail found her hanging, the first thing they did 1363 01:30:07,859 --> 01:30:10,739 was get her down and try to bring her back to life. 1364 01:30:10,810 --> 01:30:13,020 In that situation, 1365 01:30:13,100 --> 01:30:16,060 it would be a pretty cruel and callous thing for a person to do to, 1366 01:30:16,149 --> 01:30:18,529 "Let's take a photo of the person hanging, 1367 01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,770 and then let's try to see if we can save them." 1368 01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:25,350 Cannon: Larry and I looked at this, 1369 01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,939 and we went back and forth trying to figure out 1370 01:30:29,020 --> 01:30:30,979 if there's something that we're missing, 1371 01:30:31,060 --> 01:30:33,810 and we just can't see that we're missing anything. 1372 01:30:34,689 --> 01:30:38,649 So these are the hourly observation logs from Waller County, 1373 01:30:38,729 --> 01:30:42,560 and this is on the 13th of July, the day that she was found. 1374 01:30:42,649 --> 01:30:46,279 That's the sequence that the paperwork's coming in at. 1375 01:30:46,350 --> 01:30:51,810 So seven o'clock in the morning, at 7:05 they're representing her to be there. 1376 01:30:52,350 --> 01:30:54,060 And then 8:01, 1377 01:30:54,689 --> 01:30:56,270 8:54. 1378 01:30:56,350 --> 01:30:59,770 Now remember, they're checking on her, right? 1379 01:30:59,859 --> 01:31:02,069 And she's found at 8:00-- 1380 01:31:02,149 --> 01:31:05,729 Well, she's purportedly found at 8:54. 1381 01:31:05,810 --> 01:31:07,100 So that's when they find her. 1382 01:31:07,189 --> 01:31:10,609 Then we see these other logs at 9:47. 1383 01:31:10,689 --> 01:31:12,939 And then there's a blank. And then at 11:13, 1384 01:31:13,020 --> 01:31:15,810 and then there's a series of blanks, all following. 1385 01:31:15,899 --> 01:31:18,069 It doesn't make any sense to me. 1386 01:31:18,689 --> 01:31:23,609 The jail logs were filled out in a way that... 1387 01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:28,060 should not have been filled out. 1388 01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,600 They were turned in... 1389 01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:34,520 with false information. 1390 01:31:37,229 --> 01:31:42,729 Smith: What that jailer was doing was pre-filling out the form. 1391 01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:47,939 Did he falsify? No. Not in his mind. 1392 01:31:49,310 --> 01:31:51,979 Mathis: So, the truth is, 1393 01:31:52,060 --> 01:31:55,189 he, the person that signed that jail log, 1394 01:31:55,270 --> 01:31:57,270 did not see Sandy. 1395 01:31:57,350 --> 01:31:59,180 They did not check on her that hour. 1396 01:31:59,270 --> 01:32:01,189 That is a false record. 1397 01:32:01,270 --> 01:32:04,689 Was it made intentionally, or knowingly, 1398 01:32:04,770 --> 01:32:07,100 or with evil intent? 1399 01:32:07,189 --> 01:32:08,979 According to what he says, no. 1400 01:32:16,149 --> 01:32:18,319 Geneva: Sandy was bold, 1401 01:32:19,020 --> 01:32:22,810 and knew exactly what was right and what was wrong. 1402 01:32:22,899 --> 01:32:26,279 I don't believe Sandy shut her mouth when she got to the that jail. 1403 01:32:26,350 --> 01:32:30,729 I believe she kept talking, I believe she let them know, I'll see you guys in court. 1404 01:32:30,810 --> 01:32:34,520 I believe she did all of it. And I believe they silenced her. 1405 01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,930 So no. It's not settled. 1406 01:32:37,310 --> 01:32:41,100 And no, I don't believe she committed suicide. Still. 1407 01:32:41,189 --> 01:32:43,319 ♪ ♪ 1408 01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,569 Cannon: When we start talking about how different this case is, 1409 01:32:54,649 --> 01:32:57,359 and if it's different, I think we approach it differently. 1410 01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,189 You know, Freddie Gray was a settlement. 1411 01:32:59,270 --> 01:33:00,810 You know, Garner was a settlement. 1412 01:33:00,899 --> 01:33:04,189 Tamir Rice was a settlement. DuBois was a settlement. 1413 01:33:04,270 --> 01:33:08,899 Everything's been settling for at least 5 million to 10 million dollars. 1414 01:33:09,020 --> 01:33:11,770 Cannon: They're going to argue that those were homicides 1415 01:33:11,859 --> 01:33:14,609 that were caught in video as opposed to a suicide, 1416 01:33:14,689 --> 01:33:17,859 which we can't prove to the contrary. 1417 01:33:18,310 --> 01:33:22,689 The only thing that you can go to verdict on is a suicide. 1418 01:33:24,149 --> 01:33:29,319 And I started thinking about what it would mean if we tried the case. 1419 01:33:30,350 --> 01:33:32,979 Well, Geneva didn't believe that this was a suicide, 1420 01:33:33,060 --> 01:33:35,189 and doesn't believe it right now. 1421 01:33:35,770 --> 01:33:38,810 But I watched over 130 hours worth of video, 1422 01:33:38,899 --> 01:33:43,979 and you don't see anybody go into her cell, or come out of her cell. 1423 01:33:47,939 --> 01:33:52,979 Even though we know that this was extremely, extremely mysterious 1424 01:33:53,060 --> 01:33:55,890 in terms of the circumstances surrounding this case. 1425 01:33:58,189 --> 01:33:59,939 She was hung from a trash bag. 1426 01:34:03,729 --> 01:34:06,600 Well, the problem with that trash bag is, 1427 01:34:06,689 --> 01:34:09,270 is that it didn't have her fingerprints on it. 1428 01:34:09,350 --> 01:34:11,520 In fact, it didn't have anybody's fingerprints on it. 1429 01:34:12,060 --> 01:34:14,890 In fact, it didn't even have her DNA on it. 1430 01:34:17,649 --> 01:34:19,649 We know there's a bunch of evidence that's out there 1431 01:34:19,729 --> 01:34:23,060 that we'll never have any ability to grab or touch. 1432 01:34:23,149 --> 01:34:24,779 It's lost. 1433 01:34:26,979 --> 01:34:30,600 But ultimately, I don't look at it from the standpoint of whether or not 1434 01:34:30,689 --> 01:34:33,189 it was a suicide or whether or not it was a murder. 1435 01:34:33,270 --> 01:34:35,020 It was an in-custody death. 1436 01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:37,270 Sandy should be here, period. 1437 01:34:41,770 --> 01:34:48,100 There have been 816 deaths, in custody since Sandy's death. One year. 1438 01:34:48,189 --> 01:34:53,520 What if we say to them that we are looking to see cameras installed throughout the jail? 1439 01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,680 Geneva: Your Waller County report says 1440 01:34:55,770 --> 01:34:58,399 what it's going to cost you to do the changes. 1441 01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:01,520 It's roughly 20 million, in your facility. 1442 01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:03,390 You know what, Mother Reed-Veal... 1443 01:35:03,479 --> 01:35:06,270 Geneva: There's no amount of money that you could put on your child. 1444 01:35:07,310 --> 01:35:12,189 And so at some point you have to not torture yourself and say, "What happened?" 1445 01:35:12,270 --> 01:35:17,310 So I decided I'm going to go from what happened, to what happens now. 1446 01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:21,109 ♪ ♪ 1447 01:35:21,189 --> 01:35:24,479 It was the most unnerving thing you ever want to see. 1448 01:35:24,979 --> 01:35:27,979 Going back and forth, back and forth. 1449 01:35:29,229 --> 01:35:31,149 Mediator coming into the room, 1450 01:35:31,859 --> 01:35:33,189 leaving back out. 1451 01:35:33,270 --> 01:35:35,649 "No, we're not going for that. Yes, no, yes, no." 1452 01:35:35,729 --> 01:35:37,350 Eight hours. 1453 01:35:47,649 --> 01:35:49,779 (indistinct chatter) 1454 01:35:51,979 --> 01:35:56,060 I'm okay. The world will never forget Sandra Bland. 1455 01:35:59,770 --> 01:36:02,350 Best... family... in the world. 1456 01:36:03,649 --> 01:36:06,779 And there's going to be changes that come from this, 1457 01:36:06,859 --> 01:36:09,569 long-standing changes that come from this. 1458 01:36:15,729 --> 01:36:17,859 (chattering) 1459 01:36:21,689 --> 01:36:24,520 Geneva: It's time to walk your talk now. 1460 01:36:25,189 --> 01:36:26,609 Young people, 1461 01:36:26,689 --> 01:36:29,439 don't let Sandy's death be in vain. 1462 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:33,850 I am looking at all of you and you are here not by coincidence. 1463 01:36:33,939 --> 01:36:37,439 The baby said before she left here she was going to go international. 1464 01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,149 She was going to make history. 1465 01:36:39,229 --> 01:36:42,609 So now you have Sandy Bland Parkway. Look it up on Google. 1466 01:36:43,310 --> 01:36:47,020 And it's going to take a whole lot more of us standing up and saying 1467 01:36:47,100 --> 01:36:49,140 "We are not buying it," 1468 01:36:49,229 --> 01:36:51,520 in order for this to stop. 1469 01:36:52,979 --> 01:36:54,979 Charles Witherspoon: It's tough to hear that from a mother, 1470 01:36:55,060 --> 01:36:57,520 which makes me fight even harder 1471 01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,890 to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. 1472 01:37:01,899 --> 01:37:06,529 Even when the truth is against the organization... 1473 01:37:08,270 --> 01:37:09,899 that you served. 1474 01:37:10,939 --> 01:37:14,609 Police officers around the country, you need to hear my voice. 1475 01:37:15,100 --> 01:37:17,180 Tell the freakin' truth. 1476 01:37:19,399 --> 01:37:21,569 ♪ ♪ 1477 01:37:39,060 --> 01:37:43,350 Do I think the legal operation of this jail 1478 01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,979 have anything to do with her death? 1479 01:37:46,060 --> 01:37:48,140 No. No, I don't. 1480 01:37:49,060 --> 01:37:51,850 The moral responsibility 1481 01:37:51,939 --> 01:37:55,689 at eight o'clock, if you'd have gone back there in person 1482 01:37:55,770 --> 01:38:00,899 maybe looked at her eyes and seen, "Hey, something's going on with her, 1483 01:38:01,020 --> 01:38:02,439 "a little different. 1484 01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:05,149 "She's stressing," uh... 1485 01:38:05,859 --> 01:38:09,029 moral responsibility-wise, absolutely. 1486 01:38:09,350 --> 01:38:10,930 ♪ ♪ 1487 01:38:11,399 --> 01:38:15,399 Smith: It's not a black versus white issue. 1488 01:38:16,149 --> 01:38:20,479 No, we didn't go back there and tie a bag around her neck. 1489 01:38:21,649 --> 01:38:25,819 But it is our responsibility to take care of her. 1490 01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:32,359 And that, with her and her family, we let her down. 1491 01:38:32,439 --> 01:38:34,149 ♪ ♪ 1492 01:38:34,399 --> 01:38:38,819 Could there have been something we could have done to prevent it? 1493 01:38:38,899 --> 01:38:40,819 I'll always think that. 1494 01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,770 Mathis: I'm never going to make everybody in Chicago 1495 01:38:55,859 --> 01:38:57,779 believe what I'm saying. 1496 01:38:57,859 --> 01:38:59,649 Or New York City. 1497 01:39:00,310 --> 01:39:04,100 But this is the little corner of the earth where God's put me. 1498 01:39:04,189 --> 01:39:09,609 And if I, as the district attorney, don't step back and say, 1499 01:39:09,689 --> 01:39:12,270 "Hey, Elton, what do you need to do differently, 1500 01:39:12,350 --> 01:39:15,520 do you have any racist tendencies in you..." 1501 01:39:16,189 --> 01:39:19,020 then I can't help anybody else. 1502 01:39:23,649 --> 01:39:25,819 Sandra: Good morning, my beautiful kings and queens. 1503 01:39:25,899 --> 01:39:30,689 You know, racism is still only alive because people keep perpetuating it. 1504 01:39:30,770 --> 01:39:32,649 White and black. 1505 01:39:32,729 --> 01:39:35,439 Enough people don't have friends of a different race. 1506 01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:37,729 Black people included. We don't have enough white friends, 1507 01:39:37,810 --> 01:39:39,729 they don't have enough black friends. 1508 01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:42,600 ♪ ♪ 1509 01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:49,979 For those who don't agree with the things that I'm saying, I apologize. 1510 01:39:50,060 --> 01:39:54,390 But I'm not going to stop. This is about educating you. 1511 01:39:56,689 --> 01:40:00,399 That is my goal. We need to educate each other. 1512 01:40:01,229 --> 01:40:03,689 That's the only way this is going to work. 1513 01:40:10,149 --> 01:40:15,939 We love you... and your sister wants to play a song for you. 1514 01:40:16,770 --> 01:40:18,729 (funk song playing) 1515 01:40:18,810 --> 01:40:19,939 I see you, girl. 1516 01:40:20,020 --> 01:40:21,850 -♪ I'm too hot ♪ -♪ Hot damn ♪ 1517 01:40:21,939 --> 01:40:24,270 ♪ Call the police and a fireman ♪ 1518 01:40:24,350 --> 01:40:26,180 -♪ I'm too hot ♪ -♪ Hot damn ♪ 1519 01:40:26,270 --> 01:40:28,310 ♪ Make a dragon wanna retire, man ♪ 1520 01:40:28,399 --> 01:40:30,649 -♪ I'm too hot ♪ -♪ Hot damn ♪ 1521 01:40:30,729 --> 01:40:32,270 ♪ Say my name you know who I am ♪ 1522 01:40:32,350 --> 01:40:34,430 -♪ I'm too hot ♪ -♪ Hot damn ♪ 1523 01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,020 ♪ And my band 'bout that money, break it down ♪ 1524 01:40:37,100 --> 01:40:40,520 So my peeps, I love you. I'm headed into work. 1525 01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:43,930 Hoping you all have the same great, prosperous days. 1526 01:40:44,020 --> 01:40:48,439 Go out there, be great. Do something that you love. "Sandy Speaks." 1527 01:40:50,310 --> 01:40:52,350 ♪ ♪ 1528 01:40:53,899 --> 01:40:58,029 ♪ Is it bitter? Is it sweet, sweet? ♪ 1529 01:40:58,479 --> 01:41:02,560 ♪ Is it bland? Is it bland, bland? Tell me ♪ 1530 01:41:02,649 --> 01:41:06,569 ♪ Is it bitter? Is it sweet, sweet ♪ 1531 01:41:06,649 --> 01:41:08,479 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 1532 01:41:08,729 --> 01:41:10,479 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 1533 01:41:11,350 --> 01:41:13,390 ♪ Strange fruit ♪ 1534 01:41:13,979 --> 01:41:17,939 ♪ Hangin' from a plastic bag noose, that don't sound right ♪ 1535 01:41:18,020 --> 01:41:21,270 ♪ Then they call it suicide ♪ 1536 01:41:21,810 --> 01:41:25,310 ♪ Like she ain't got no sense of pride ♪ 1537 01:41:25,810 --> 01:41:28,770 ♪ My people ain't no foolin' we ♪ 1538 01:41:28,859 --> 01:41:32,279 ♪ Eyes open, eyes shut, they gon' see ♪ 1539 01:41:32,350 --> 01:41:35,140 ♪ Open or they're shut, they gon' see ♪ 1540 01:41:35,229 --> 01:41:39,270 ♪ Is it bitter? Is it sweet, sweet? ♪ 1541 01:41:39,350 --> 01:41:43,770 ♪ Is it bland? Is it bland, bland? Tell me ♪ 1542 01:41:43,859 --> 01:41:47,479 ♪ Is it bitter? Is it sweet, sweet? ♪ 1543 01:41:48,189 --> 01:41:49,569 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 1544 01:41:49,979 --> 01:41:51,310 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 1545 01:41:51,399 --> 01:41:53,939 ♪ Tell me, do you believe this shit? ♪ 1546 01:41:54,020 --> 01:41:55,520 ♪ Hell, no! ♪ 1547 01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:59,390 ♪ They keep getting away with the same things ♪ 1548 01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:03,439 ♪ Sandra would be turning in her grave ♪ 1549 01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:05,560 ♪ If we all just shut up ♪ 1550 01:42:05,649 --> 01:42:07,569 ♪ And behave ♪ 1551 01:42:07,649 --> 01:42:10,109 ♪ Silence is a new slave ♪ 1552 01:42:10,189 --> 01:42:11,270 ♪ Shh! ♪ 1553 01:42:11,350 --> 01:42:13,979 ♪ Silence is a new slave ♪ 1554 01:42:14,060 --> 01:42:16,100 ♪ Say it now, silence is a new slave ♪ 1555 01:42:16,189 --> 01:42:18,359 ♪ Silence is a new slave ♪ 1556 01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:21,729 ♪ Silence is a new slave ♪ 1557 01:42:22,189 --> 01:42:24,359 ♪ Slave, slave, slave ♪ 1558 01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:26,100 ♪ Is it bitter? ♪ 1559 01:42:26,399 --> 01:42:27,689 ♪ Is it sweet, sweet? ♪ 1560 01:42:27,770 --> 01:42:29,899 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 1561 01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:31,810 ♪ Is it bland, bland? ♪ 1562 01:42:31,899 --> 01:42:32,689 ♪ Tell me ♪ 1563 01:42:32,770 --> 01:42:34,649 ♪ Is it bitter? ♪ 1564 01:42:34,729 --> 01:42:36,229 ♪ Is it sweet, sweet ♪ 1565 01:42:36,899 --> 01:42:38,189 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 1566 01:42:38,729 --> 01:42:40,399 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 1567 01:42:40,770 --> 01:42:42,350 ♪ Is it bland? ♪ 124040

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