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♪ ("MUSIC BOX"
THEME MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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Jason Isbell is one
of those song writers
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that makes you feel like
you know him and he knows you.
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This film is a document
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of some of the most
personal songs
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that Jason Isbell
has already written.
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And I wanted to discover
where the life
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and the art connect.
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♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
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♪ (GUITAR PLAYING) ♪
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For Sam's camera to work,
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we got to go back
to about right here.
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I don't like that as much,
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so I'm gonna move
Sam's camera back a little bit.
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(CAMERA STAND SCRAPING)
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That good?
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AMANDA PEARL SHIRES: I think so.
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JASON ISBELL: We are recording.
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- ♪ (GUITAR PLAYING) ♪
- ♪ (VIOLIN PLAYING) ♪
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I forgot to ask you
what key it was in.
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- It's in E.
- Aha.
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- JASON: Let's start the--
- I started doing it in A.
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JASON:
Start the recordings over.
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AMANDA: Okay.
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- ♪ (GUITAR PLAYING) ♪
- ♪ (VIOLIN PLAYING) ♪
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JASON: Where's--
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AMANDA: We did it one more time
the last time through.
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Ah, shit.
Let's start the recording over.
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- You ready?
- AMANDA: Wait. No.
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Now it's saving or something.
Okay, now.
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JASON: One, ta, ta, two, ta, ta.
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Do it again?
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- The beginning.
- I liked that intro.
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- Oh, you didn't like it?
- Oh, I'm sorry.
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- Okay.
- I thought missed it.
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I didn't. (CHUCKLES) Okay.
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One, two, three, two. Three...
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(BIRDS CHIRPING)
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♪ (GENTLE MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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- DERRY DEBORJA: Good morning.
- JASON: Hey, how are you?
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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- DERRY: Morning, Sadler.
- SADLER VADEN: What's up, man?
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- JASON: How are you?
- Good.
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- Good to see you, bud.
- JASON: Good to see you.
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- What's up, Darrell?
- DARREL: Hey, I know you.
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JASON: There's really
no more intrinsic value
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to making a record than there is
to writing in your journal
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when you're 15 years old,
you know?
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It's really
for the same purpose.
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There's something
that we have to say,
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and in the process
of figuring out
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how to say that,
we learn who we are.
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
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JASON:
But I need to move forward
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as a person through this work.
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For me to do that, I have
to come to terms with things
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that don't make me look cool
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or don't paint me
in the best light
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or don't, you know,
promote an idea
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I have of controlling
my own image
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because cont--
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I think, controlling your image
is the opposite of creating art.
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My songs are things
that are under the surface
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of my own mind,
things that I'm dealing with
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and working through.
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But the trick for me is to make
a rock and roll record
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about all these things
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'cause you don't really want
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people to feel like
they're singing along
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with some sort of
a self-help catalogue.
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♪ (SOFT MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
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- That sounds good.
- Really cool.
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JASON: She sent me
a message today. Let's see.
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I love you so much,
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and how much music
are you gonna make?
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JASON: (OVER CELL PHONE)
Hello, Mercy.
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We are going to make an album,
which is nine or ten songs.
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And so, it's like
about 45 minutes long.
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And then she said--
To all that, she said...
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That sounds great.
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(CHUCKLES) She's so funny, man.
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♪ ("RUNNING WITH OUR EYES
CLOSED" BY JASON ISBELL
PLAYING) ♪
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♪ Took forever
To get you to trust me ♪
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♪ Like I was feeding
A bird from my hand ♪
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♪ And if this isn't love
Then it must be ♪
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♪ Another answer
I don't understand ♪
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♪ To a prayer that was please
And not thank you ♪
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♪ To a question
I wrote in the sand ♪
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♪ To a wish that I made
On a satellite ♪
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♪ From a witness in tears
On the stand ♪
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♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪
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♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪
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♪ Well, you are who you are
When you're angry ♪
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♪ When you're scared
Or you're sad or you're bored ♪
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♪ When a stranger
Has slipped you a room key ♪
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♪ In a hotel
You couldn't afford ♪
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♪ We can never go back
And be strangers ♪
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♪ All our secrets
Are mixed and distilled ♪
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♪ But you've taught me
To temper my anger ♪
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♪ And you've learned
It's all right to be still ♪
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♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪
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♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
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It's fucking unbelievable.
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- Unbelievable.
- Thank you.
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Play me that change
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from just the last chord
to the bridge.
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♪ We're running
With our eyes closed ♪
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One, two.
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Two, da-da.
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CHAD GAMBLE: Prior to Jason,
any recording I've done,
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there would always be
weeks of rehearsal.
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This was kind of
a new territory for me
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where he brings
in the song the day of.
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SADLER: You don't know the song,
you write your number chart out.
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Then you're sort of
off to the races
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and coming up with parts
and trying to lay it down.
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♪ Oh, running
With our eyes closed ♪
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AMANDA: It's ridiculously hard
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and the stupidest part
of recording.
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Can't practice it
'cause Dave doesn't make a demo.
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But then if I mess up,
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somebody's gonna want to try
to keep that probably.
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I don't--
It's just really scary.
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This might be
a weird suggestion.
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I like your weird suggestions.
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What if you play it
acoustic going down,
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then we take time
with the electric sound?
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- That's good with me.
- 'Cause it's such a cool part,
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I don't want to dig--
Just run past it.
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- You know what I mean?
- Yeah. The riff is a hook.
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- It's a hook and a half.
- JASON: Yeah.
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JASON: Amanda
has heard the songs,
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but that's different, you know?
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That's a different
kind of collaboration.
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Like, I still don't really think
of it as she's in the band.
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And I need her to do
different things,
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and I think she needs to have
a different role.
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Did you write "to"?
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A stranger slips you
a room key "to" a hotel room
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you can't afford.
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- But I think that you are--
- But there's no slipping one
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- with inside the room key...
- Yeah, there is.
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If you're at the hotel bar
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and the stranger is trying
to pick you up,
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they would slip you a key
in the hotel.
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No, but you're...
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I've already went, like,
through this in my brain
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- about a dozen times.
- Well, this will just be
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permanently disagreed with
because it sounds like
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when you're on,
like, you're reading
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that you're in the room,
slipping the key.
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- This has already happened.
- How about--
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- How about "for"?
- Past.
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- For is fine.
- Or we just leave
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the article off and say...
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♪ When a stranger
Has slipped you a room key ♪
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♪ A hotel room
You couldn't afford ♪
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Or-- See,
I've already said "room" though.
That was my problem.
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I didn't want to use
"room" again that quickly.
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Do whatever you want.
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- JASON: No, no.
- That's not gonna be a big deal.
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- (CHUCKLES)
- JASON: I'm not making--
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I'm really, like,
just discussing it.
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DAVE COBB: Why don't you
just make up a word?
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- (CHUCKLES)
- AMANDA: You're talking about it
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in the past, so it's like
"in" is not helpful.
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I feel like "in" and "to"
are in the same tense.
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When a stranger
has slipped you a room key.
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- Yeah, so you're in the--
- And moving tenses within--
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You're in
the present participle.
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- AMANDA: Who is?
- JASON: 'Cause the person--
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The people who are existing here
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are in the present
participle tense,
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which means that they're
existing in the now...
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- No, but the--
- ...but discussing something
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that's happened in the past.
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No, b-- Okay. But see,
then you're mixing up
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all this in this middle.
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Just sing whatever you want
and then think about it later.
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No, I want to get it right.
That's--
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Then put "to."
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I feel like if I put "to,"
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it's gonna read like
you're getting key
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to the entire hotel.
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- Don't you think?
- To... (SIGHS, CHUCKLES)
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I see what you mean.
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TRACI THOMAS: You know,
Amanda has a master's degree
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in creative writing.
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She gets in there with her pen
and gives him honest feedback.
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She's the only one
that hears anything
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before they go into the studio.
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I mean you could also say...
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♪ And a stranger
Has slipped you a room key ♪
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♪ For a room... ♪
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♪ To a room
You could never afford ♪
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- See? I like that.
- That's better.
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To a room, yeah. To a room.
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(AMANDA LAUGHS)
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Once the songs get past her,
nobody scares me.
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Nobody. I don't give a shit.
I know it's right.
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AMANDA: Part of the reason
why he trusts me
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is because I can't suffer
a bad song,
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or, like, a clich d lyric
unless it's turned a little bit.
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JASON: It works. It's hard.
It's a hard thing to do.
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You have to let go of your ego.
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If I was making people dance,
I wouldn't sit there
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and waste my time
on prepositions. (CHUCKLES)
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But they are not
out there dancing.
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I got to get
those prepositions right.
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DAVE: Yeah, beautiful.
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- Good?
- DAVE: Love it.
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- Okay.
- JIMBO HART: Cool.
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AMANDA: It's got to be terrible
to sit in that chair.
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- What? Over there?
- I mean, I know it is.
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No, your chair.
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- Over here?
- To be putting a record out,
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- like, singing your songs...
- Man.
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...for the first time in front
of a group of people.
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- It is--
- Terrible.
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- No.
- It is.
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It's the most beautiful thing
I've ever done in my life
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outside of you and our daughter.
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(SIGHS)
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JIMBO: Our method of recording
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relies on so much of your gut.
Wherever it takes you,
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that's where it goes.
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♪ Took forever to get you
To trust me... ♪
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JIMBO:
It's a healthy way to do it
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because if you don't get it
in the first few times,
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you kind of lose
the spirit of it anyway.
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It's a very complex chemistry
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that just comes from
playing together
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for such a long time.
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♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪
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♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪
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There's definitely
a spontaneity element
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to being in a studio
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that I think
is really important.
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Something that I have
always liked is hearing
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a really good musician
play a song
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before they actually know it.
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And once you learn the song,
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your mind is not focused
on creating.
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Your mind is focused
on recreating.
245
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You know, you can only
create something once,
246
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and if the tape's not rolling,
247
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then you're just
shit out of luck.
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- JASON: I like the one
before it better.
- One before it?
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- Can we do one more?
- JASON: Yeah.
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DAVE: Just don't think.
Don't even tune.
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Okay. Don't think. Don't tune.
252
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AMANDA: You're only as good
as the last work you did,
253
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so there's this doubting
of self.
254
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You're just like, "This is
probably a bunch of shit.
255
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I don't know."
So, you're fighting
256
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with all these voices
inside your head.
257
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I don't know what you're doing,
but that's what I do.
258
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♪ (VIOLIN PLAYING, CONCLUDES) ♪
259
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♪ ("RUNNING WITH OUR EYES
CLOSED" BY JASON ISBELL
PLAYING) ♪
260
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♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪
261
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♪ Running with our eyes closed ♪
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JASON: The writing of the songs,
that's the hardest part.
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My work is done
when I walk into the studio.
264
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So I don't feel
that kind of pressure.
265
00:12:53,610 --> 00:12:56,270
Oh, he's just lying to y'all.
266
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He is. He is.
I'm gonna drag him up here
267
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and tell him to answer
the question honestly.
268
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It's got to be a big lie, right?
It's got to drive him crazy.
269
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You just continue
to build pressure for yourself
270
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to outdo your last record.
271
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From this point forward
till when the record comes out,
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he's gonna be
a ball of anxiousness.
273
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DAVE: That should be
where it ends right there.
274
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- Yeah. That's the end.
- DAVE: Yeah.
275
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And I'm still--
276
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This guitar still sounds woofy
as hell to me.
277
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I'm excited.
I'm excited to be here,
278
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you know? It's like, uh--
279
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It's like the first day
of little league. (LAUGHS)
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♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
281
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AMANDA: Jason and I
have known each other
282
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for 18 years.
We were friends at first.
283
00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,980
But, like, you kind of know,
you know?
284
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JASON: I met Amanda
when I was recording
285
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with the Drive-By Truckers.
286
00:14:13,850 --> 00:14:16,350
I went into town
to go get drunk,
287
00:14:16,550 --> 00:14:19,490
and Amanda was playing
with Thrift Store Cowboys.
288
00:14:19,690 --> 00:14:22,630
There was, you know,
hardly anybody at the show.
289
00:14:22,830 --> 00:14:24,130
He got a folding chair
and went and sat
290
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in the middle of the floor.
There was, like, I don't know,
291
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probably like 12 people there.
292
00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,200
I thought
that was pretty ballsy.
293
00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,940
I said, "Aren't you supposed
to be famous?"
294
00:14:33,140 --> 00:14:36,240
JASON: As a joke,
she got me to sign a polaroid
295
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of the two of us, and it's--
296
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We have it in the bathroom
in the house now.
297
00:14:42,020 --> 00:14:44,010
We were just friends for years.
298
00:14:44,220 --> 00:14:46,550
But I probably always been
in love with her.
299
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Um. I definitely had.
300
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How many minutes
do we have left?
301
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JASON: We have 16.
302
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AMANDA: During that time,
I never thought really
303
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that I'd be enough
for him just because,
304
00:14:57,830 --> 00:15:01,400
well, he liked to hang out
with women, and he liked to,
305
00:15:02,170 --> 00:15:04,570
you know, do S-E-X.
306
00:15:04,770 --> 00:15:06,170
(CHUCKLES)
307
00:15:06,370 --> 00:15:07,440
AMANDA: Funny aside,
I don't know
308
00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,270
if this is important
for the documentary or not,
309
00:15:09,470 --> 00:15:11,610
but I did make him take
an STD test
310
00:15:11,810 --> 00:15:13,310
before I hooked up with him.
311
00:15:13,510 --> 00:15:15,150
And then for, like,
the first year,
312
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he had it hanging
on the refrigerator, but...
313
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(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
314
00:15:20,550 --> 00:15:21,750
We're ready
when you're all ready.
315
00:15:21,950 --> 00:15:23,920
Ready? Come on.
Apparently, we're ready to rock.
316
00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,360
Have yourself
a good time out there.
317
00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,000
Thanks for joining me.
It's gonna be fun.
318
00:15:31,830 --> 00:15:38,830
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
319
00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:45,350
♪ ("TRAVELING ALONE"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
320
00:15:58,260 --> 00:16:01,400
♪ Mountain's rough
This time of year ♪
321
00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,630
♪ Close the highway down ♪
322
00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,240
♪ They don't warn the town ♪
323
00:16:13,910 --> 00:16:17,140
♪ I've been fighting
Second gear ♪
324
00:16:19,710 --> 00:16:22,080
♪ For 15 miles or so ♪
325
00:16:23,420 --> 00:16:26,520
♪ Trying to beat
The angry snow ♪
326
00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:34,530
♪ I know every town
Worth passing through ♪
327
00:16:34,730 --> 00:16:41,670
♪ But what good does knowing do
With no one to show it to ♪
328
00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:47,870
♪ And I've grown
Tired of traveling alone ♪
329
00:16:48,070 --> 00:16:51,010
♪ Tired of traveling alone ♪
330
00:16:51,210 --> 00:16:55,250
♪ I've grown tired
Of traveling alone ♪
331
00:16:55,450 --> 00:16:58,150
♪ Won't you ride with me ♪
332
00:16:59,420 --> 00:17:03,520
♪ I've grown tired
Of traveling alone ♪
333
00:17:04,220 --> 00:17:07,190
♪ Tired of traveling alone ♪
334
00:17:07,390 --> 00:17:11,660
♪ I've grown tired
Of traveling alone ♪
335
00:17:11,860 --> 00:17:14,270
♪ Won't you ride with me ♪
336
00:17:15,770 --> 00:17:17,670
♪ Won't you ride ♪
337
00:17:19,070 --> 00:17:21,210
JASON: I'm so grateful that
this is the person
338
00:17:21,410 --> 00:17:23,840
that I have to share this with.
339
00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,780
I feel included,
and I feel tethered
340
00:17:27,980 --> 00:17:29,780
to the world by her.
341
00:17:30,780 --> 00:17:35,220
She makes me feel like
I'm not an outcast.
342
00:17:36,220 --> 00:17:37,390
There was always some part of me
343
00:17:37,590 --> 00:17:39,890
that felt like
I don't belong here.
344
00:17:40,090 --> 00:17:44,460
And when she treats me
like I belong...
345
00:17:46,030 --> 00:17:50,670
I feel like I belong everywhere,
you know?
346
00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,990
♪ I've grown tired
Of traveling alone ♪
347
00:18:12,190 --> 00:18:15,190
♪ Tired of traveling alone ♪
348
00:18:15,390 --> 00:18:19,360
♪ I've grown tired
Of traveling alone ♪
349
00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,400
♪ Won't you ride with me ♪
350
00:18:23,660 --> 00:18:25,640
♪ Won't you ride ♪
351
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,180
♪ Won't you ride ♪
352
00:18:40,290 --> 00:18:42,090
- (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
- Thank you.
353
00:18:42,290 --> 00:18:44,090
That's Amanda Shires
on the fiddle.
354
00:18:44,290 --> 00:18:45,460
It's a violin.
355
00:18:45,660 --> 00:18:47,560
I think that means
it's for sale.
356
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,090
(CHUCKLES)
357
00:18:49,290 --> 00:18:51,100
Right after we started
hanging out with each other,
358
00:18:51,300 --> 00:18:52,430
I said, "Now,
what is the difference
359
00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:56,070
between a violin and a fiddle?"
And she said,
360
00:18:56,270 --> 00:18:58,640
"Well, it's a fiddle
when you're buying it."
361
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,970
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
362
00:19:01,170 --> 00:19:03,310
JASON: It's a violin
when you're selling it.
363
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:04,810
If she's calling it a violin,
364
00:19:05,010 --> 00:19:07,240
it's not because we're
in a fancy orchestral room,
365
00:19:07,450 --> 00:19:09,680
it's because she's looking
to upgrade.
366
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,180
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
367
00:19:12,380 --> 00:19:14,280
As long as you always
call me a fiddle.
368
00:19:14,490 --> 00:19:16,190
- (CHUCKLES)
- (AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
369
00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:20,060
JASON: I get moved either
to laughter or to tears
370
00:19:20,260 --> 00:19:23,530
by very small things
that most people
371
00:19:23,730 --> 00:19:25,430
would not notice,
and if you point it out to them,
372
00:19:25,630 --> 00:19:27,200
they would think
you were strange.
373
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,170
And she has looked at me
in a lot of fucking ways,
374
00:19:30,370 --> 00:19:31,800
but never once
has she looked at me
375
00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,210
like I'm strange.
376
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,610
Never once.
377
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,350
And everybody else has.
378
00:19:42,050 --> 00:19:43,520
At least once. (CHUCKLES)
379
00:19:46,050 --> 00:19:47,890
Well, you're not strange anyway.
380
00:19:48,590 --> 00:19:49,560
Thank you.
381
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:57,830
♪ ("CHILDREN OF CHILDREN"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
382
00:20:02,970 --> 00:20:04,530
JASON: I grew up in Alabama.
383
00:20:04,740 --> 00:20:08,470
It was very rural
and poor White, everybody.
384
00:20:08,670 --> 00:20:13,180
When we got pregnant with Jason,
we were kids, you know?
385
00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:17,680
I was 18 or so,
but Angelia was 16.
386
00:20:18,850 --> 00:20:21,090
When you're 16 years old,
you think you love him,
387
00:20:21,290 --> 00:20:23,190
and I did. I mean, you know,
388
00:20:23,390 --> 00:20:25,220
as much as you could
at that time.
389
00:20:25,420 --> 00:20:27,020
When I found out I was pregnant,
390
00:20:27,230 --> 00:20:28,390
I said,
"Oh, I'm gonna marry him,
391
00:20:28,590 --> 00:20:30,400
and we're gonna live
happily ever after."
392
00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:34,560
♪ I was riding
On my mother's hip ♪
393
00:20:34,770 --> 00:20:39,370
♪ She was shorter
Than the corn ♪
394
00:20:44,910 --> 00:20:48,150
♪ And all the years
I took from her ♪
395
00:20:48,350 --> 00:20:54,420
♪ Just by being born ♪
396
00:20:58,590 --> 00:21:00,490
ANGELIA BARNETT:
Because we were so young,
397
00:21:00,690 --> 00:21:02,460
he didn't realize
he was a child.
398
00:21:02,660 --> 00:21:07,230
JASON: I had no barometer
for reaction.
399
00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:11,770
I felt a response
to all of my problems
400
00:21:11,970 --> 00:21:13,400
as though they were as big
401
00:21:13,610 --> 00:21:16,610
and as complicated
as the adult problems
402
00:21:16,810 --> 00:21:19,680
'cause I didn't have any other
eight-year-olds around.
403
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:24,050
Also, there was
a pretty big religious undertone
404
00:21:24,250 --> 00:21:25,780
to everything down there.
405
00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:28,120
You know, my grandfather
was a preacher,
406
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,620
so as a young child,
I was taught
407
00:21:30,820 --> 00:21:33,990
that what this book says
is exactly true.
408
00:21:34,190 --> 00:21:36,660
The thoughts I was having
at seven and eight were guilt,
409
00:21:36,860 --> 00:21:38,660
guilt, guilt,
shame, shame, shame.
410
00:21:38,860 --> 00:21:42,000
"I'm gonna go to hell."
So that kept me up at night.
411
00:21:42,930 --> 00:21:44,440
Plus, I was a chubby kid,
412
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,840
and definitely
not like everybody else.
413
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,680
You know, I read books,
and I didn't play football.
414
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,380
Just that was enough
to get pickles thrown at you
415
00:21:55,580 --> 00:21:57,420
in the lunchroom, you know?
416
00:21:58,380 --> 00:22:00,750
I was so stressed out
and anxious,
417
00:22:00,950 --> 00:22:03,320
and the I way I took my mind
out of all that
418
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,360
or stopped the wheels
from spinning
419
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,590
was by playing the guitar,
420
00:22:06,790 --> 00:22:08,320
sitting in my room,
playing the guitar.
421
00:22:17,740 --> 00:22:18,940
MIKE ISBELL: He had Strats.
422
00:22:19,140 --> 00:22:20,970
That’s what he liked back then
when he was young.
423
00:22:21,170 --> 00:22:22,340
And, man,
I'd hear him back there
424
00:22:22,540 --> 00:22:24,440
tearing that thing up.
425
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,840
JASON: My parents
did everything they could
426
00:22:27,050 --> 00:22:30,750
to make my childhood
a positive experience,
427
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:33,920
but they couldn't do everything
that they needed to do.
428
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:36,450
You know, Dad was always
stressed about money.
429
00:22:36,660 --> 00:22:38,190
Mom was not great with money.
430
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:41,460
And both had
a pretty short fuse.
431
00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:43,730
They would start arguing,
432
00:22:43,930 --> 00:22:46,530
and it was a very
quick escalation with them.
433
00:22:47,630 --> 00:22:50,840
Now, the house was small,
and the walls were thin,
434
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,570
and the amp was loud.
435
00:22:54,570 --> 00:22:56,110
And so I couldn't hear 'em.
436
00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:58,710
If I turned it up loud
and played rock and roll guitar,
437
00:22:58,910 --> 00:23:00,510
I couldn't hear 'em yelling
at each other.
438
00:23:00,710 --> 00:23:03,850
♪ (ELECTRICAL GUITAR PLAYING) ♪
439
00:23:07,820 --> 00:23:09,120
MIKE: He played good, you know?
440
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,490
And sometimes we were arguing,
we'd stop and listen to him.
441
00:23:12,690 --> 00:23:17,200
This is so hard for me.
He was sitting at the table,
442
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,400
and he said,
"Mom, do you love Dad?"
443
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,170
And I said,
"Of course I love Daddy.
444
00:23:23,370 --> 00:23:24,800
Why? Why would you ask me that?"
445
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,870
And he said, "Well, I love him
'cause he's my daddy,
446
00:23:29,070 --> 00:23:31,810
but I wouldn't love him
if he was my husband."
447
00:23:33,180 --> 00:23:35,250
That's the burden that he had,
448
00:23:35,450 --> 00:23:38,020
and that's the clarity
that he had.
449
00:23:38,220 --> 00:23:41,220
MIKE: He had a big heart
and was a good kid.
450
00:23:41,420 --> 00:23:43,450
It's a tough one
when they have that.
451
00:23:43,660 --> 00:23:45,290
You know, it's easier
to get broke.
452
00:23:45,490 --> 00:23:50,430
(VOCALIZES)
453
00:24:06,610 --> 00:24:07,650
JASON: There was no culture
454
00:24:07,850 --> 00:24:09,550
of any kind
of psychological help
455
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:12,250
for children or adults,
whatsoever.
456
00:24:12,450 --> 00:24:14,390
You were either fine
or you were crazy,
457
00:24:14,590 --> 00:24:16,590
and if you were crazy,
you went to the 400 Unit.
458
00:24:16,790 --> 00:24:17,720
And if you were fine,
459
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,790
you shut up,
and you went to work.
460
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:23,960
If not for playing the guitar,
and singing, writing songs,
461
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,430
then I would've been lost
in that middle ground
462
00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:28,830
between fine and crazy.
463
00:24:29,030 --> 00:24:31,800
If that hadn't been there,
I don't, you know,
464
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,240
I really don't know
if I would've been able
465
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,810
to deal with the world at all.
I might've just checked out.
466
00:24:40,750 --> 00:24:42,480
(CLEARS THROAT, HUMS)
467
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,550
JASON: Hearing a song
that really moves you
468
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:49,120
is like if you
accidentally stumble
469
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,720
on somebody's diary
and it was exactly like yours.
470
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,890
You would say, "Oh, my God,
there's one person
471
00:24:56,090 --> 00:24:59,800
who had the same feelings
that I did," you know?
472
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,230
And all of us are kind
of walking around, thinking,
473
00:25:02,430 --> 00:25:03,800
"Man, am I weird?
474
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,500
Am I the only one
who feels this way?"
475
00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:07,610
And then when somebody
reaches in and says,
476
00:25:07,810 --> 00:25:08,940
"No, no, I'm with you,"
477
00:25:09,140 --> 00:25:10,580
that's it. That's all it is,
you know?
478
00:25:10,780 --> 00:25:11,810
Let's do one more
from the tippy.
479
00:25:12,010 --> 00:25:13,180
(CLEARS THROAT)
It's gonna be hard.
480
00:25:13,380 --> 00:25:14,610
DAVE: You can do it.
481
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,380
Okay.
482
00:25:17,580 --> 00:25:19,980
(SINGS) ♪ And just stand
Stand there ♪
483
00:25:20,190 --> 00:25:27,230
♪ ("DREAMSICLE"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
484
00:25:29,030 --> 00:25:31,430
♪ I guess
We're leaving town again ♪
485
00:25:31,630 --> 00:25:33,830
♪ We're moving out
And moving in ♪
486
00:25:34,030 --> 00:25:36,570
♪ Got to break the news
To all my friends ♪
487
00:25:36,770 --> 00:25:38,870
♪ But they won't care ♪
488
00:25:39,070 --> 00:25:41,410
♪ They'll just find
Another face ♪
489
00:25:41,610 --> 00:25:43,740
♪ To fall behind
To take my place ♪
490
00:25:43,940 --> 00:25:46,240
♪ And run way out
Past second base ♪
491
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,650
♪ And just stand there ♪
492
00:25:49,950 --> 00:25:50,980
One more like that. That's cool.
493
00:25:51,180 --> 00:25:54,090
- JASON: Okay.
- ♪ To fall behind... ♪
494
00:25:54,290 --> 00:25:57,320
ANGELIA: Every single word
of "Dreamsicle"
495
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,820
just hit me
with the broken glass,
496
00:26:00,020 --> 00:26:02,960
the poison ivy. Just words
that nobody else understands,
497
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,130
you know?
498
00:26:04,330 --> 00:26:07,730
Things that I didn't realize
that he actually remembered.
499
00:26:07,930 --> 00:26:10,000
That's the thing about him,
you know, he don't forget much.
500
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,200
His songs are all about,
you know, about real things.
501
00:26:13,410 --> 00:26:15,610
♪ Poison oak and poison ivy ♪
502
00:26:15,810 --> 00:26:18,010
♪ Dirty jokes
That blew right by me ♪
503
00:26:18,210 --> 00:26:22,850
♪ Momma curling up beside me
Crying to herself ♪
504
00:26:23,050 --> 00:26:25,380
♪ Why can't Daddy
Just come home ♪
505
00:26:25,580 --> 00:26:27,680
♪ Forget whatever he did wrong ♪
506
00:26:27,890 --> 00:26:32,290
♪ He's in a hotel all alone
And we need help ♪
507
00:26:32,490 --> 00:26:34,090
DAVE: Let's punch that line.
508
00:26:34,290 --> 00:26:35,250
Twenty-one?
509
00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:36,460
JASON:
Is that the right approach?
510
00:26:36,660 --> 00:26:37,460
AMANDA: Yeah, and it sounds
511
00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:38,700
like the sentiment,
so that's great.
512
00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:40,290
JASON: Right, right.
You're not gonna be like,
513
00:26:40,490 --> 00:26:41,930
"I'm so proud
of my parents' divorce!"
514
00:26:42,130 --> 00:26:44,030
AMANDA: (CHUCKLES)
Yeah, exactly.
515
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,340
JASON: You know,
I still remember
516
00:26:45,540 --> 00:26:46,700
my parents fighting.
517
00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:49,440
And I remember how that felt,
and I remember, you know,
518
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,080
the things that caused me
to be sad
519
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,680
or to be stressed
or to be anxious.
520
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,240
I remember those things.
521
00:26:54,450 --> 00:26:56,480
ANGELIA: You know, one time,
we were in an argument,
522
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:57,710
and it was bad.
523
00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,920
And Jason threw the baseball
through the window.
524
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:01,790
The baseball through the window
was to get them
525
00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:04,790
to shut the hell up
for three seconds.
526
00:27:05,690 --> 00:27:07,730
♪ Broken glass and broken vows ♪
527
00:27:07,930 --> 00:27:10,130
♪ I'll be 18
Four years from now ♪
528
00:27:10,330 --> 00:27:12,660
♪ With different friends
In a different town ♪
529
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:14,660
♪ I'll finally be free ♪
530
00:27:14,860 --> 00:27:16,770
JASON: But I definitely felt
like I was in the middle
531
00:27:16,970 --> 00:27:20,870
of their trouble for years.
Because I was put in the middle.
532
00:27:21,070 --> 00:27:24,640
My anger towards one parent
was driven by the other parent.
533
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,940
And I knew that
they weren't supposed
534
00:27:27,150 --> 00:27:28,910
to be doing that to me.
(CHUCKLES)
535
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:31,120
♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
536
00:27:42,930 --> 00:27:44,830
MIKE: People say,
"I have no regrets,"
537
00:27:45,030 --> 00:27:46,660
but I can pull some up.
538
00:27:47,470 --> 00:27:49,240
Took me a long time to grow up.
539
00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:53,000
The way I found out
that they were getting a divorce
540
00:27:53,210 --> 00:27:55,910
was my mom picked me up
from baseball camp.
541
00:27:56,110 --> 00:27:58,040
And she said, "We're leaving."
542
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,280
And she told me
that we would come back,
543
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:07,650
but we were doing that
so Dad would realize how he was.
544
00:28:07,850 --> 00:28:10,320
And so for a long time,
I thought that was possible.
545
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,460
And it's not. (CHUCKLES)
Turns out.
546
00:28:13,660 --> 00:28:17,290
♪ A dreamsicle
On a summer night ♪
547
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:20,530
♪ In a folding lawn chair ♪
548
00:28:20,730 --> 00:28:23,100
JASON: She took me
to a hotel that night.
549
00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:26,940
♪ Daddy's howling at the moon
Better get home soon ♪
550
00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:28,170
JASON: We went to the mall,
551
00:28:28,370 --> 00:28:30,910
and she bought me
Don Mattingly's rookie card.
552
00:28:31,110 --> 00:28:32,940
I was a fan of Don Mattingly.
553
00:28:33,140 --> 00:28:36,610
♪ Heat lightning
In the evening sky ♪
554
00:28:36,820 --> 00:28:40,180
♪ And my momma's red hair ♪
555
00:28:40,390 --> 00:28:42,890
JASON: I was touched
by the gesture.
556
00:28:43,090 --> 00:28:45,060
I knew what she was doing,
you know?
557
00:28:45,260 --> 00:28:47,660
And I felt for her
because I knew
558
00:28:47,860 --> 00:28:50,760
she was trying to change
the subject, you know?
559
00:28:52,860 --> 00:28:55,800
♪ Hearts breaking
Through the springtime ♪
560
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,270
♪ Breaking into June ♪
561
00:29:00,770 --> 00:29:02,840
♪ Breaking into June ♪
562
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:07,920
♪ Breaking into June ♪
563
00:29:09,250 --> 00:29:10,280
That's it.
564
00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:13,020
We done, baby. Come on in.
565
00:29:16,460 --> 00:29:17,690
All right. Back it up.
566
00:29:17,890 --> 00:29:20,190
Make four. Just mark four
as being master take.
567
00:29:20,390 --> 00:29:22,130
- GENA JOHNSON: Okay.
- DAVE: Awesome. Awesome.
568
00:29:22,330 --> 00:29:24,600
JASON: 'Cause Dave still thinks
the song's about ice cream.
569
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,660
- (BOTH CHUCKLE)
- If it is about ice cream,
570
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:28,170
this is my favorite song
on the record.
571
00:29:28,370 --> 00:29:29,130
(CHUCKLES)
572
00:29:29,330 --> 00:29:32,500
♪ Heat lightning
In the evening sky ♪
573
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:36,540
♪ And my momma's red hair ♪
574
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,280
♪ Hearts breaking
Through the springtime ♪
575
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,250
♪ Breaking into June ♪
576
00:29:47,050 --> 00:29:48,390
♪ Breaking into June ♪
577
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,530
♪ Breaking into June ♪
578
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,140
(CRICKET CHIRPING)
579
00:30:04,340 --> 00:30:08,880
♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
580
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,650
♪ Amanda, light of my life ♪
581
00:30:17,850 --> 00:30:18,850
AMANDA: You got
a crazy hair sticking
582
00:30:19,050 --> 00:30:20,750
out the side right there.
583
00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:22,190
So cute. Here,
I'll smooth it out for you
584
00:30:22,390 --> 00:30:23,790
so it looks like shit.
(CHUCKLES)
585
00:30:23,990 --> 00:30:29,390
- ♪ Amanda, light of my life ♪
- AMANDA: (CHUCKLING)
It's all like...
586
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:34,330
♪ Fate should've made you
A gentleman's wife ♪
587
00:30:35,740 --> 00:30:37,770
It's called "Be Afraid."
588
00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:39,670
AMANDA: But what key
are you going to do it in?
589
00:30:39,870 --> 00:30:41,040
G.
590
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,040
AMANDA: All right.
591
00:30:45,310 --> 00:30:48,350
♪ We've been testing you
And you failed ♪
592
00:30:48,550 --> 00:30:50,110
- That thing's so loud.
- AMANDA: What is?
593
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,580
- The fiddle is right on me.
- AMANDA: Oh.
594
00:30:52,790 --> 00:30:54,820
- Wow.
- So, do I need to move?
595
00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:57,390
- AMANDA: No, I will back up.
- Okay. Okay.
596
00:30:58,660 --> 00:31:00,360
What?
597
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,190
Just the same amount as normal.
(CHUCKLES)
598
00:31:03,390 --> 00:31:08,070
♪ ("BE AFRAID"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
599
00:31:08,270 --> 00:31:11,910
♪ We've been testing you
And you failed ♪
600
00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:14,340
♪ To see how long ♪
601
00:31:14,540 --> 00:31:15,810
♪ That you can sit
With the truth ♪
602
00:31:16,010 --> 00:31:17,780
♪ But you bail ♪
603
00:31:17,980 --> 00:31:19,780
♪ And I don't think
You'd even recognize ♪
604
00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:21,080
♪ The myth of control ♪
605
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,920
♪ And I don't think
You even see it in yourself ♪
606
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,880
♪ Every one of us
Is playing dice ♪
607
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,120
♪ That we didn't roll ♪
608
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,120
♪ And the loser is the last
To ask for help ♪
609
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,530
♪ Be afraid, be very afraid ♪
610
00:31:35,730 --> 00:31:38,160
♪ But do it anyway ♪
611
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,800
Songwriting has gotten
harder for me
612
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,600
as time has gone on
613
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,940
just because
I won't accept things
614
00:31:45,140 --> 00:31:46,240
that I used to accept.
615
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,140
I won't be satisfied
unless this album
616
00:31:49,340 --> 00:31:52,340
is an accurate representation
of where I am as a person,
617
00:31:52,540 --> 00:31:54,140
which means
that I'm more focused
618
00:31:54,350 --> 00:31:55,810
than I used to be in the studio.
619
00:31:56,010 --> 00:31:58,650
This is the cycle
of anxiousness.
620
00:31:58,850 --> 00:32:01,150
Like, any kind of thing
that's going on his brain
621
00:32:01,350 --> 00:32:04,690
just presents as grumpiness,
but really, it's something more.
622
00:32:06,990 --> 00:32:07,930
JASON: Then whatever,
623
00:32:08,130 --> 00:32:08,990
- however we end it.
- DAVE: Cool.
624
00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:11,300
I would love
if you change your playing
625
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:12,960
to very jangly
626
00:32:13,170 --> 00:32:14,770
instead of that blocky thing,
you know.
627
00:32:14,970 --> 00:32:17,200
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
It would be way cooler.
628
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,000
Yes, and that's a good start,
just right there. Like that.
629
00:32:20,210 --> 00:32:21,740
Should I play
a twelve-string electric?
630
00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:23,710
- Might be cooler than-- Yes...
- No.
631
00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:25,940
- No? Amanda hates those.
- I hate that.
632
00:32:26,140 --> 00:32:27,940
- Can we--
- 'Cause they don't have
any in Texas.
633
00:32:29,350 --> 00:32:31,850
I know how he gets
when he makes records,
634
00:32:32,050 --> 00:32:34,250
whether or not he sees it
at the time or not.
635
00:32:34,450 --> 00:32:37,260
I'm not super comfortable
being the whipping girl,
636
00:32:37,460 --> 00:32:39,460
so I just chill.
637
00:32:39,660 --> 00:32:41,330
I don't believe that
you're the whipping girl,
638
00:32:41,530 --> 00:32:44,360
but most people don't go
to work with their wife.
639
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,860
Most people come home,
and it's like,
640
00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:47,260
"Oh, my God,
I'm so glad to see you.
641
00:32:47,470 --> 00:32:49,430
I can't wait to tell you
about my day."
642
00:32:49,630 --> 00:32:54,140
But she knows about my day.
What are we gonna talk about?
643
00:32:54,340 --> 00:32:56,210
You know, "Oh, my God,
I'm so glad to see you.
644
00:32:56,410 --> 00:32:58,180
- I saw you 45 seconds ago."
- (CHUCKLES)
645
00:32:58,380 --> 00:32:59,940
"And you fucked up
that harmony part.
646
00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:01,180
And that was cool,
remember that?
647
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:02,650
- Okay, good night."
- Rub it in.
648
00:33:02,850 --> 00:33:05,920
"What do you want
to watch tonight? All right."
649
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,050
Did you want to be
in the control room or out here?
650
00:33:08,250 --> 00:33:10,120
- I'll just be up here.
- GENA: Okay.
651
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,960
Since the sound of my fiddle
was so much louder than normal.
652
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,530
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
653
00:33:15,730 --> 00:33:18,130
AMANDA: My fiddle was
so much louder than normal.
654
00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:20,700
It's just like, dink-dink
in my brain.
655
00:33:21,930 --> 00:33:22,970
- Dink?
- Yeah, dink-dink!
656
00:33:23,170 --> 00:33:24,370
AMANDA: (CHUCKLES)
That's what I sound like?
657
00:33:24,570 --> 00:33:27,240
- Dink-dink.
- You sound like a dink.
658
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,340
Dink.
659
00:33:29,410 --> 00:33:31,210
Remember that grumpiness
I was talking about?
660
00:33:31,410 --> 00:33:34,110
- That's what just happened.
- Let's do the Magnatone.
661
00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:36,050
Fucking loud fiddle.
662
00:33:36,250 --> 00:33:37,950
No, it's not.
It's always this loud.
663
00:33:38,150 --> 00:33:39,250
This is...
664
00:33:39,450 --> 00:33:42,160
Isn't it? Yeah.
That's what I thought.
665
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,500
The 12-string guitar, geez.
666
00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:50,960
If I was producing this record,
667
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,530
I'd take
all the 12-string guitars
668
00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:53,770
and give them away.
669
00:33:56,170 --> 00:33:57,470
JIMBO: Are we gonna play
this song?
670
00:33:57,670 --> 00:33:59,040
AMANDA: That's what
I'm talking about.
671
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,200
We're standing here with our...
672
00:34:00,410 --> 00:34:01,770
- Is there a song?
- ...dicks in the dirt.
673
00:34:01,970 --> 00:34:04,380
JASON: I waited two hours
for somebody else's burrito.
674
00:34:04,580 --> 00:34:06,350
Y'all going to let me
tune this guitar.
675
00:34:06,550 --> 00:34:07,650
(JIMBO CHUCKLES)
676
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,020
- DAVE: Fuck those people.
- JASON: I-- Yeah, I know.
677
00:34:13,220 --> 00:34:15,050
I'm the one paying
for this shit.
678
00:34:15,250 --> 00:34:16,520
Sometimes he needs
a lot of space.
679
00:34:16,720 --> 00:34:18,420
- You're goddamn right.
- He's a big fucking man.
680
00:34:18,620 --> 00:34:21,060
You know, I'm a man
from Alabama, for Christ sakes.
681
00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:22,690
- If the floor's shaking...
- That's what we do.
682
00:34:22,890 --> 00:34:23,830
...Momma's gonna get some space.
683
00:34:24,030 --> 00:34:26,200
Anyway, I don't have--
I can't go on.
684
00:34:28,870 --> 00:34:31,500
Yeah, you got something to do,
or you just want to get out?
685
00:34:31,700 --> 00:34:33,740
AMANDA: Oh, I got
things that I could do.
686
00:34:33,940 --> 00:34:34,940
JASON: Okay, that's fine.
687
00:34:35,140 --> 00:34:37,210
I mean, 'cause I was gonna do
either the...
688
00:34:37,410 --> 00:34:40,010
(SINGS)
♪ Hard part is letting you go ♪
689
00:34:40,210 --> 00:34:41,110
AMANDA: Oh, yeah, that's...
690
00:34:41,310 --> 00:34:42,250
- That one.
- AMANDA: Yeah.
691
00:34:42,450 --> 00:34:44,920
Probably do that one later,
but, you know,
692
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,320
it'd be cool
if you were here for it.
693
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,790
If you don't want to be,
you don't have to be.
694
00:34:48,990 --> 00:34:49,920
AMANDA: Let's do this.
695
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,290
This is--
Let's do this right now.
696
00:34:51,490 --> 00:34:53,960
I don't think I'll be able
to think about this right now
697
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,930
'til we've discussed.
698
00:34:56,130 --> 00:34:58,830
- AMANDA: I'll send you a text.
- Okay. Okay.
699
00:35:01,370 --> 00:35:05,170
Trying to navigate being
in a relationship
700
00:35:05,370 --> 00:35:07,900
where we are family
and we are married
701
00:35:08,110 --> 00:35:12,010
and we have a child together,
and also working in the studio,
702
00:35:12,210 --> 00:35:13,510
you know, is a challenge.
703
00:35:13,710 --> 00:35:18,150
And I don't mean this
to be an excuse for anything.
704
00:35:18,350 --> 00:35:19,820
You know,
it's my own damn fault.
705
00:35:20,020 --> 00:35:22,250
But when I have a hard day,
I can't just go home
706
00:35:22,450 --> 00:35:23,450
and have a drink.
707
00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:25,990
And used to,
that's what I would do.
708
00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:29,660
So there's no escape... for me.
709
00:35:29,860 --> 00:35:30,900
There's the thing, though.
710
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:32,330
There's the puzzle
you're working out,
711
00:35:32,530 --> 00:35:34,700
that you need to figure out,
I think. "There's no escape."
712
00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:35,870
There is an escape.
713
00:35:36,070 --> 00:35:38,040
You just have to figure out
what it is, and it's music.
714
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:39,270
- We know that.
- Right.
715
00:35:39,470 --> 00:35:40,910
But I'm not gonna go home
from the studio and sit
716
00:35:41,110 --> 00:35:42,110
and play guitar all night.
717
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:43,940
AMANDA: Well, no, I know.
But I'm just saying,
718
00:35:44,140 --> 00:35:45,750
then you should find
another one.
719
00:35:48,450 --> 00:35:49,720
You know what I mean?
720
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,850
Yeah. Yeah, I do.
721
00:35:53,050 --> 00:35:57,190
Um. And what I would prefer
that to be, in a perfect world,
722
00:35:57,390 --> 00:35:59,520
is spending time
with my daughter,
723
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:02,190
but I just don't have
time right now.
724
00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:03,490
Well, it's not
that you don't have time.
725
00:36:03,690 --> 00:36:05,300
It's the schedules
are different.
726
00:36:07,530 --> 00:36:11,770
Um. And that wears on me.
727
00:36:11,970 --> 00:36:14,840
If I don't get much time
with her, it wears on me.
728
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,640
Pretty quickly. Um...
729
00:36:19,710 --> 00:36:20,710
And that's that.
730
00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:29,790
♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
731
00:36:34,660 --> 00:36:35,960
- JASON: Hello, Dave.
- DAVE: Hey, dude.
732
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,200
- JASON: How you doing, buddy?
- DAVE: Fantastic, how about you?
733
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,730
JASON: I had a rough night,
but I'm good.
734
00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:40,760
DAVE: What happened?
735
00:36:40,970 --> 00:36:43,100
JASON: Just, you know,
we'll talk about it later.
736
00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:44,400
DAVE: Okay.
737
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,510
JASON: But I'm happy to be here.
738
00:36:47,710 --> 00:36:50,780
Everything is not good,
but I am in the studio,
739
00:36:50,980 --> 00:36:52,740
so this feels comfortable.
740
00:36:52,940 --> 00:36:55,180
DAVE: Yeah, why do you think
I work in the studio every day?
741
00:36:55,380 --> 00:36:57,280
- JASON: Yeah, no shit, man.
- (DAVE CHUCKLING)
742
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:58,450
JASON: So I didn't really sleep,
743
00:36:58,650 --> 00:37:00,720
- but, man, I'm good.
- Yeah.
744
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:01,720
(SNIFFLES)
745
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,450
- Y'all want to do a song?
- DERRY: Yeah.
746
00:37:03,660 --> 00:37:06,020
- All right.
- DAVE: Here we go.
747
00:37:06,220 --> 00:37:09,490
(SINGS)
♪ She waits for the sunshine ♪
748
00:37:09,690 --> 00:37:11,620
Okay, wait.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
749
00:37:11,830 --> 00:37:13,660
One, two, three, four.
750
00:37:13,860 --> 00:37:16,430
♪ Ain't it something
How the night can shine ♪
751
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,470
Let's do it again.
One, two, three, four.
752
00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:21,540
♪ Ain't it something
How the night ♪
753
00:37:21,740 --> 00:37:26,280
Walk into it.
One, two, ready go.
754
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,150
Ah. I counted that
like a fucking idiot.
755
00:37:29,350 --> 00:37:31,120
- (ALL LAUGHING)
- Wow.
756
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,080
JASON: While we were recording
Reunions,
757
00:37:33,290 --> 00:37:34,220
I was telling myself,
758
00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:36,390
"This is good.
This is fine. This is easy.
759
00:37:36,590 --> 00:37:40,330
You have this under control."
And that was not true.
760
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,230
What was true was,
I was really pressured
761
00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:49,370
and very stressed
and sort of having
762
00:37:49,570 --> 00:37:51,670
a come-apart in there.
763
00:37:51,870 --> 00:37:54,440
Like, "Ugh, is this gonna
be any good or not?"
764
00:37:57,410 --> 00:38:01,480
(JASON HUMS)
765
00:38:02,410 --> 00:38:04,040
Amanda could definitely
see something
766
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:06,680
that even I couldn't see
at that point.
767
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,850
That's, I think, the thing
that frustrates her the most
768
00:38:10,060 --> 00:38:13,020
is when I refuse
to acknowledge something
769
00:38:13,230 --> 00:38:14,760
that she can see.
770
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,230
I just couldn't be
around it anymore
771
00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:18,700
'cause it was so...
772
00:38:21,130 --> 00:38:23,000
fake. It was so fake.
773
00:38:25,570 --> 00:38:29,510
JASON: ♪ Somebody told her
She was beautiful ♪
774
00:38:29,710 --> 00:38:32,080
♪ Every time she turned around ♪
775
00:38:33,550 --> 00:38:36,780
♪ But when she opened up
Her mouth to speak ♪
776
00:38:36,980 --> 00:38:40,520
♪ It clearly didn't make
A sound ♪
777
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:46,360
AMANDA: Everything
was so magnified and intense,
778
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:47,590
and I just was like,
779
00:38:47,790 --> 00:38:50,660
if you could just say
that all this bullshit
780
00:38:50,860 --> 00:38:54,270
is because you're nervous
or under pressure or whatever
781
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:55,470
that'd go a lot further
782
00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:59,300
than pretending it all away,
you know?
783
00:38:59,500 --> 00:39:02,870
JASON: ♪ She waits
For the sun to rise ♪
784
00:39:03,070 --> 00:39:04,680
♪ Behind his midnight eyes ♪
785
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,340
♪ And the windstorm
Had passed ♪
786
00:39:07,540 --> 00:39:10,550
♪ And ain't it something
How the night can shine ♪
787
00:39:10,750 --> 00:39:14,880
♪ Through a bottle
of wine against a bedroom wall ♪
788
00:39:15,090 --> 00:39:18,020
♪ And ain't it something
When her eyes light up ♪
789
00:39:18,220 --> 00:39:22,700
♪ And it's exactly enough
And you can let yourself fall ♪
790
00:39:29,170 --> 00:39:33,440
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
791
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,040
- DAVE: We done.
- Good, thank God.
792
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,710
DAVE: So, you're coming
later tomorrow?
793
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:42,180
Yep. I just have to sleep
'cause I didn't last night...
794
00:39:42,380 --> 00:39:44,880
- DAVE: Yeah.
- ...so I won't be any later
than 2:00, though.
795
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:46,650
Okay, you should go home
796
00:39:46,850 --> 00:39:48,490
and just put your iPhone
outside tonight
797
00:39:48,690 --> 00:39:50,090
- for a little while.
- (JASON CHUCKLES)
798
00:39:50,290 --> 00:39:52,160
And bring the noise in
799
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:53,590
- from your home.
- JASON: Oh, record?
800
00:39:53,790 --> 00:39:54,860
- DAVE: Yeah.
- Yeah, that would be nice,
801
00:39:55,060 --> 00:39:56,860
but I'm not going
to my home tonight.
802
00:39:57,060 --> 00:39:59,560
- DAVE: Oh, okay.
- Anything'll sound too good
803
00:39:59,770 --> 00:40:00,800
in the hall at the Omni.
804
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,400
DAVE: Oh, is that
where you're staying tonight?
805
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,740
(CHUCKLES) Yeah.
806
00:40:05,970 --> 00:40:07,910
- DAVE: Well...
- Maybe tomorrow, Dave.
807
00:40:09,110 --> 00:40:11,340
DAVE: Well, whenever you do.
808
00:40:11,540 --> 00:40:13,410
All right, everybody,
I'll see you guys tomorrow.
809
00:40:14,850 --> 00:40:18,080
PATTERSON HOOD: Jason
is extremely hard on himself,
810
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,520
and it can be painful
for everyone around him.
811
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:25,990
I knew the first moment
I ever met him,
812
00:40:26,190 --> 00:40:30,390
he was destined for greatness.
813
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,760
But Jason was young
when he joined our band.
814
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,070
JASON: I had always planned
on being in a band.
815
00:40:36,270 --> 00:40:40,000
I'd always had that
as my driving force, you know?
816
00:40:40,210 --> 00:40:42,010
The Drive-By Truckers had played
in Nashville
817
00:40:42,210 --> 00:40:44,410
at one of the first
Americana Music Conferences,
818
00:40:44,610 --> 00:40:45,540
and the next day,
819
00:40:45,740 --> 00:40:46,940
the guitar player
didn't show up,
820
00:40:47,150 --> 00:40:48,580
and Jason just sat in.
821
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:49,810
You know, I was like,
"Man, you mind
822
00:40:50,020 --> 00:40:52,990
if I play with you guys
since you're one short?"
823
00:40:56,190 --> 00:41:00,030
PATTERSON: He was like
a way-next-level guitar player.
824
00:41:00,660 --> 00:41:01,660
Jason's playing along
825
00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:03,660
like he had been rehearsing it
for years.
826
00:41:03,860 --> 00:41:04,860
So at the end of the night,
827
00:41:05,060 --> 00:41:06,560
I was like, "Hey, man,
get in the van.
828
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,630
Let's go play some
rock and roll." (CHUCKLES)
829
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,740
I was, "Yes, I'm there.
I'll do it."
830
00:41:11,940 --> 00:41:13,070
You know, I wanted to get out,
831
00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:15,170
get on the road, and tour.
And I wanted to write songs.
832
00:41:15,370 --> 00:41:19,640
I wanted people to hear 'em.
I was so excited. So excited.
833
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,450
PATTERSON: The next day,
his mom dropped him off
834
00:41:22,650 --> 00:41:24,610
to get in our van
to leave for Oklahoma.
835
00:41:24,820 --> 00:41:29,120
ANGELIA: And Jason's like,
"Mom, whatever you do,
836
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:31,460
don't say,
837
00:41:31,660 --> 00:41:33,390
'Take care of my boy,
or something like that.'"
838
00:41:33,590 --> 00:41:35,790
She's sizing me up. It's like,
839
00:41:35,990 --> 00:41:38,630
"You're not gonna let my boy
die out there, are you?"
840
00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:41,470
They open the back of the van,
and there lays Earl Hicks,
841
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:44,200
passed out drunk.
Patterson comes around.
842
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:45,540
And he puts his arm
around Jason,
843
00:41:45,740 --> 00:41:46,970
and he says, "Don't worry, Mom.
844
00:41:47,170 --> 00:41:49,070
We're gonna take real good care
of your boy."
845
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:51,740
It was like that scene
from Almost Famous,you know?
846
00:41:51,940 --> 00:41:53,840
"Don't do drugs!" (CHUCKLES)
847
00:41:54,050 --> 00:41:56,510
- (INDISTINCT CHATTER)
- Y'all know Jason, don't you?
848
00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:00,550
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING, CHEERING)
849
00:42:00,750 --> 00:42:03,750
JASON: Coming into that
was mind-boggling for me
850
00:42:03,950 --> 00:42:06,790
because it really was
exchanging everything I knew
851
00:42:06,990 --> 00:42:09,860
for something
completely different.
852
00:42:10,060 --> 00:42:13,230
There was a lot of humor,
and there was a lot of drinking
853
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:17,030
and a lot of things
that I had never seen before.
854
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:21,010
PATTERSON: The first tour
with Jason was beyond magical.
855
00:42:21,210 --> 00:42:23,740
He wrote "Decoration Day"
like the fourth day
856
00:42:23,940 --> 00:42:26,370
he was in the band.
I'm like, "Holy shit,
857
00:42:26,570 --> 00:42:27,880
where's this kid been
all my life," you know?
858
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,650
It's like, "Oh,
elementary school." (CHUCKLES)
859
00:42:30,850 --> 00:42:32,220
("DECORATION DAY"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING)
860
00:42:32,420 --> 00:42:34,650
♪ It's Decoration Day ♪
861
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:41,260
♪ Had a mind to roll
A stone on his grave ♪
862
00:42:41,460 --> 00:42:44,230
♪ But what would he say? ♪
863
00:42:44,430 --> 00:42:49,940
♪ He'd say, "Keeping me down
Ain't gonna keep you away" ♪
864
00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:53,270
♪ It's Decoration Day ♪
865
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:59,280
♪ And I knew
The Hill boys put him away ♪
866
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,650
♪ But my daddy wasn't afraid ♪
867
00:43:03,450 --> 00:43:04,950
♪ He said, "We'd fight ♪
868
00:43:05,150 --> 00:43:09,750
♪ Until the last Lawson's
Last living day" ♪
869
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,560
JASON: It was everything
I ever wanted.
870
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,730
You know, the things
that I'd sit in my room
871
00:43:14,930 --> 00:43:17,630
and rehearsed while my parents
were getting a divorce.
872
00:43:17,830 --> 00:43:21,300
It was the fantasy
that I went to to disconnect
873
00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:22,830
from the house that I was in.
874
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,640
It was everything.
It was everything.
875
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,200
No matter what went wrong
in my life,
876
00:43:27,410 --> 00:43:28,940
I thought, "But I can do this."
877
00:43:29,140 --> 00:43:30,710
PATTERSON:
With Jason joining the band,
878
00:43:30,910 --> 00:43:34,650
we basically jumped
from one size room
879
00:43:34,850 --> 00:43:37,950
over the next size room
to the next size room
880
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:40,080
in a space
of about three months.
881
00:43:40,290 --> 00:43:43,820
We had this chemistry
that made us better together
882
00:43:44,020 --> 00:43:46,090
than any of us were separate.
883
00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:50,190
And so it was like
this really powerful thing.
884
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:52,500
♪ (INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
885
00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:53,660
TRACI THOMAS:
The Drive-By Truckers
886
00:43:53,860 --> 00:43:56,430
were pretty established
and, you know, kind of
887
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,840
"professional drinkers,"
888
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,870
you know, by the time
he joined the band.
889
00:44:01,070 --> 00:44:03,040
And it was just a rolling party.
890
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:05,010
PATTERSON: I mean,
we drank a lot, you know?
891
00:44:05,210 --> 00:44:09,350
We rocked hard. We drank hard.
We drove hard. We lived hard.
892
00:44:09,550 --> 00:44:11,650
(INDISTINCT CHATTER)
893
00:44:17,220 --> 00:44:19,520
It wouldn't be right
for me to say all of the sudden,
894
00:44:19,730 --> 00:44:21,660
I started drinking
and doing drugs
895
00:44:21,860 --> 00:44:22,990
when I joined the band.
896
00:44:23,190 --> 00:44:25,700
It's just that the situations
were heavier
897
00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:27,130
than what I'd been used to.
898
00:44:27,330 --> 00:44:28,800
♪ ("DANKO / MANUEL"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
899
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,070
♪ I ain't living like I should ♪
900
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,340
♪ A little rest
Might do me good ♪
901
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:43,780
ANGELIA: I think drinking
gave him confidence.
902
00:44:43,980 --> 00:44:45,920
Not, "I'm gonna be a badass
and fight you,
903
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:50,150
but I can express myself
whereas I am that Southern man
904
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,860
who doesn't express himself
if I'm not drinking."
905
00:44:53,060 --> 00:44:57,330
♪ And I ain't living
Like I should ♪
906
00:44:57,530 --> 00:45:00,560
JASON: I was adjusting
to the world outside
907
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,300
- of my Alabama upbringing...
- (CROWD CHEERING)
908
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:06,170
...and dealing with stuff
from my childhood
909
00:45:06,370 --> 00:45:07,300
that I never dealt with.
910
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:09,040
I mean, that's probably
the biggest part of it,
911
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:11,140
was the fact that...
(INHALES DEEPLY) ...you know,
912
00:45:11,340 --> 00:45:13,980
I never had any kind of therapy
and didn't know
913
00:45:14,180 --> 00:45:17,320
that my problems were problems
that could be solved.
914
00:45:18,580 --> 00:45:20,120
PATTERSON: We can look back now
915
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,390
and see a lot
of dangerous patterns emerging
916
00:45:23,590 --> 00:45:24,690
with his drinking.
917
00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:26,860
But we were
a little oblivious to that,
918
00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:28,730
I'm ashamed to say, at the time.
919
00:45:28,930 --> 00:45:31,760
We would be on stage performing
and handing each other
920
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,330
the bottle of whiskey
and take a swig
921
00:45:33,530 --> 00:45:35,100
out of the bottle, you know?
922
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:37,570
Then after the show,
you'd go out to a bar,
923
00:45:37,770 --> 00:45:38,970
I mean, already lit,
924
00:45:39,170 --> 00:45:41,840
and go out to have six
or seven more.
925
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,780
It just snowballed.
926
00:45:47,710 --> 00:45:49,380
PATTERSON: There was one night
in Memphis
927
00:45:49,580 --> 00:45:55,250
that was the first ever hint
of there being this dark side,
928
00:45:55,450 --> 00:45:58,760
you know, 'cause he was so--
he was so Jason.
929
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,220
He was kind of a ray of light.
930
00:46:00,430 --> 00:46:01,960
("GODDAMN LONELY LOVE"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING)
931
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,160
JASON: I was highly inebriated.
I drank, you know,
932
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,670
an entire handle
of Jack Daniel's.
933
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:11,440
I took some cocaine
and some valium
934
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,770
or something like that.
935
00:46:12,970 --> 00:46:17,340
And I overdosed and, you know,
woke up all bloody.
936
00:46:17,540 --> 00:46:20,210
And Shonna, the bass player
in the Drive-By Truckers,
937
00:46:20,410 --> 00:46:23,250
who I was dating at the time,
was slapping me
938
00:46:23,450 --> 00:46:25,880
and crying and thought
that I was dead.
939
00:46:26,090 --> 00:46:28,450
He was pretty cut up
and looked like
940
00:46:28,650 --> 00:46:29,920
he had been in a fight.
941
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,760
He might've been cutting himself
a little bit. I don't know.
942
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,130
It-- Something got
really fucked up that night.
943
00:46:36,330 --> 00:46:38,190
Obviously,
some things had gone
944
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:39,970
very wrong with Jason.
945
00:46:41,530 --> 00:46:45,740
♪ So I'll take two
Of what you're having ♪
946
00:46:45,940 --> 00:46:49,810
♪ And I'll take all
Of what you got ♪
947
00:46:50,010 --> 00:46:53,480
♪ To kill this goddamn lonely ♪
948
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,180
♪ Goddamn lonely love ♪
949
00:47:02,890 --> 00:47:05,720
JASON: I felt like
what I was gonna do
950
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,760
was straighten my life out,
951
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,830
and I felt like
I owed it to Shonna
952
00:47:10,030 --> 00:47:12,760
because she had taken care
of me.
953
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,400
We went, I think, the next day
to the courthouse
954
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:16,430
and got married.
955
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:20,670
But I was not prepared
for a marriage or any kind
956
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:23,980
of a real relationship
at that point.
957
00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:28,110
♪ All I got
Is this goddamn lonely ♪
958
00:47:28,310 --> 00:47:31,980
♪ Goddamn lonely love ♪
959
00:47:32,180 --> 00:47:34,650
I just wasn't being
an actual grown-up.
960
00:47:34,850 --> 00:47:37,590
I had built the illusion
of grown-upness,
961
00:47:37,790 --> 00:47:40,160
but I was not living
as an adult.
962
00:47:41,930 --> 00:47:43,320
TRACI: The Drive-By Truckers
were playing
963
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:44,630
at Webster Hall one night.
964
00:47:44,830 --> 00:47:46,030
And I remember getting
to the venue,
965
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:49,870
and Jason just announces to me,
"I'm getting divorced."
966
00:47:50,070 --> 00:47:53,510
When the relationship
between Jason and Shonna
967
00:47:53,710 --> 00:47:55,040
started going bad...
968
00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:00,580
you know, that affected
all of us for sure.
969
00:48:00,780 --> 00:48:02,380
By that time, we're in a bus,
970
00:48:02,580 --> 00:48:04,980
but a bus becomes
a really small place quick
971
00:48:05,180 --> 00:48:07,150
when there's 11 people
living in it.
972
00:48:07,350 --> 00:48:12,020
That period was bad.
That was a bad time in my life.
973
00:48:12,220 --> 00:48:14,890
(CROWD CHEERING, APPLAUDING)
974
00:48:15,090 --> 00:48:17,100
PATTERSON: He was,
in a lot of ways,
975
00:48:17,300 --> 00:48:19,230
spiraling out of control.
976
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:23,700
And I saw the potential
for that to get a lot worse.
977
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:28,480
There was a point where I was
definitely worried about,
978
00:48:29,110 --> 00:48:30,340
you know, him dying.
979
00:48:30,540 --> 00:48:33,340
The situation with Jason
had gotten so bad
980
00:48:33,540 --> 00:48:35,420
that it was just--
it was making us
981
00:48:36,020 --> 00:48:37,420
not enjoy our job.
982
00:48:37,620 --> 00:48:39,550
It was threatening
the life of the band.
983
00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:42,520
TRACI: Honestly, I think
his ego also started growing
984
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:43,760
and getting out of control.
985
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,260
And there's only
so much people can take.
986
00:48:46,460 --> 00:48:48,890
Patterson and Cooley
just put a stop to it.
987
00:48:49,090 --> 00:48:51,030
It was shocking to me
when I was fired.
988
00:48:51,230 --> 00:48:54,160
But in hindsight, it should
not have been shocking to me.
989
00:48:54,370 --> 00:48:55,570
(CHUCKLES) Now,
I look back at it,
990
00:48:55,770 --> 00:48:58,370
and, yeah, I would've fired
that guy too. What an asshole.
991
00:48:58,570 --> 00:49:00,770
PATTERSON: Breaking up
with Jason damn near killed me
992
00:49:00,970 --> 00:49:02,110
in a lot of ways. I mean,
993
00:49:02,310 --> 00:49:06,140
I was beyond heartbroken
to see it ending like that.
994
00:49:06,340 --> 00:49:09,080
I was terrified about what
it was gonna do to the band
995
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,980
because he was
a vital important part
996
00:49:12,180 --> 00:49:13,680
of what we were doing.
997
00:49:13,890 --> 00:49:16,850
- That's a big thing to lose.
- JASON: I mean, I didn't want
998
00:49:17,060 --> 00:49:18,790
my parents
to get a divorce either.
999
00:49:18,990 --> 00:49:20,290
But, you know now
I'm glad they did
1000
00:49:20,490 --> 00:49:22,960
'cause in hindsight,
they were pretty...
1001
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,430
(CHUCKLES)
...you know, pretty miserable.
1002
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:26,860
PATTERSON:
Definitely felt some guilt
1003
00:49:27,070 --> 00:49:28,970
when things started
going wrong with him.
1004
00:49:29,170 --> 00:49:31,000
Maybe we should've handled it
differently.
1005
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,500
Maybe we should've been
more aware.
1006
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:36,040
Maybe we should've, you know,
maybe I should've.
1007
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:38,580
Maybe I should've been
more aware.
1008
00:49:38,780 --> 00:49:43,410
I was the one who put him
in that van that night.
1009
00:49:43,620 --> 00:49:46,220
I'm the one who told his momma
he was gonna be okay.
1010
00:49:46,420 --> 00:49:48,520
You know, it's very sad.
It was very sad.
1011
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:51,990
I went to a bar
to go get very, very drunk
1012
00:49:52,190 --> 00:49:54,630
and ordered a double
and then another one
1013
00:49:54,830 --> 00:49:58,400
and another one and another one.
For five more years. (CHUCKLES)
1014
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,570
♪ ("ONLY CHILDREN"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1015
00:50:07,870 --> 00:50:10,310
♪ Heaven's wasted on the dead ♪
1016
00:50:10,510 --> 00:50:12,740
♪ That's what your momma said ♪
1017
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:15,580
♪ Heaven's wasted on the dead ♪
1018
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,450
♪ Heaven's waste... ♪
1019
00:50:17,650 --> 00:50:19,690
Why that doesn't feel
right to me.
1020
00:50:22,020 --> 00:50:24,960
For the bridge, so, uh, C.
1021
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:26,330
♪ Heaven's waste... ♪
1022
00:50:26,530 --> 00:50:27,230
Let's try C...
1023
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:29,030
♪ Heaven's wasted
On the dead ♪
1024
00:50:29,230 --> 00:50:30,830
- AMANDA: How've you been doing?
- ♪ (MUSIC STOPS) ♪
1025
00:50:31,030 --> 00:50:32,000
MAN: Hey,
where have you been lately?
1026
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,870
Oh, just doing
all kinds of stuff.
1027
00:50:35,070 --> 00:50:37,370
- MAN: I like your glasses.
- Thank you.
1028
00:50:37,570 --> 00:50:40,670
- You know, got to keep it vibey.
- (MAN CHUCKLES)
1029
00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:43,600
♪ Heaven's wasted on the dead ♪
1030
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,540
♪ That's what your momma said ♪
1031
00:50:45,740 --> 00:50:49,420
♪ And the hearse idling
In the parking lot ♪
1032
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:52,120
So we'll take it
from right after the chorus
1033
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:53,620
so everybody knows
where they're at. Okay?
1034
00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:54,720
- JASON: Okay.
- Back up.
1035
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,350
JASON: On the bridge,
should I play a chord, like...
1036
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:58,420
- No, no. Keep picking, yeah.
- JASON: Just keep going? Okay.
1037
00:50:58,620 --> 00:51:00,020
♪ ("ONLY CHILDREN"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1038
00:51:00,230 --> 00:51:02,860
♪ Heaven's wasted on the dead ♪
1039
00:51:03,060 --> 00:51:04,730
♪ That's what your momma said ♪
1040
00:51:04,930 --> 00:51:08,670
♪ And the hearse was idling
In the parking lot ♪
1041
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,670
♪ She said you thought
The world of me ♪
1042
00:51:13,870 --> 00:51:15,610
♪ And you were glad to see ♪
1043
00:51:15,810 --> 00:51:19,610
♪ They finally let me be
An astronaut ♪
1044
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:44,340
♪ Are you still taking notes?
You have anyone to talk to? ♪
1045
00:51:44,540 --> 00:51:48,240
♪ Castle walls
That you can walk through? ♪
1046
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,140
♪ And do the dead believe
In ghosts? ♪
1047
00:51:52,340 --> 00:51:55,010
♪ Or are you lost
In some old building ♪
1048
00:51:55,210 --> 00:51:58,450
♪ With over-encouraged
Only children? ♪
1049
00:52:10,930 --> 00:52:12,360
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
1050
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,430
DAVE: Amazing. Do you wanna go
into overdubs,
1051
00:52:14,630 --> 00:52:16,130
or do you want to go
into another song?
1052
00:52:16,340 --> 00:52:18,440
JASON: Oh, I need
about 20 minutes to myself.
1053
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,970
So I'm gonna take that,
and then I'll come in and do...
1054
00:52:21,170 --> 00:52:22,280
All right.
1055
00:52:22,980 --> 00:52:24,540
Can I talk to you for a minute?
1056
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:27,580
I mean, now's not
a really great time for me,
1057
00:52:27,780 --> 00:52:30,350
- but... Okay.
- JASON: Okay, no problem.
1058
00:52:30,550 --> 00:52:34,150
My wife and I got in a spot
that was probably pretty close
1059
00:52:34,350 --> 00:52:36,520
to just calling
the whole thing off.
1060
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:40,320
Uh, yeah, it was definitely
close to that.
1061
00:52:40,530 --> 00:52:43,800
She was offended by my behavior,
and I was offended by hers.
1062
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,800
We just kept our distance
for a week or more.
1063
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,700
That's part of what made it
so difficult for me,
1064
00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:51,100
was the fact that we didn't know
1065
00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:52,500
what to say to each other,
you know?
1066
00:52:52,700 --> 00:52:54,610
We didn't know how to talk
or communicate
1067
00:52:54,810 --> 00:52:56,270
at that point in time.
1068
00:52:56,470 --> 00:52:58,580
AMANDA: Yeah, but th--
He was being an asshat.
1069
00:52:58,780 --> 00:53:00,240
He wouldn't talk to me
on the phone.
1070
00:53:00,450 --> 00:53:02,910
He wouldn't respond
to my text messages.
1071
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,550
I sent an email
full of my thoughts,
1072
00:53:06,750 --> 00:53:10,320
and he didn't respond for,
like, fucking three days.
1073
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,160
JASON: I just-- I have
to be able to work
1074
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,060
no matter what stupid shit
is going on.
1075
00:53:14,260 --> 00:53:15,630
DAVE: Really, you can? I can't.
1076
00:53:15,830 --> 00:53:17,260
JASON: Well, I don't have
a choice, Dave.
1077
00:53:17,460 --> 00:53:19,730
- It's either that or fail.
- DAVE: Yeah.
1078
00:53:19,930 --> 00:53:23,730
Um, I think now we can switch
into overdub.
1079
00:53:23,930 --> 00:53:25,670
JASON: Yeah, I think so, too.
1080
00:53:28,370 --> 00:53:29,970
DAVE: All right,
here we go from the top.
1081
00:53:30,180 --> 00:53:34,550
♪ ("ST. PETER'S AUTOGRAPH"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1082
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,220
AMANDA: "Dear Mr. Husband,
1083
00:53:39,420 --> 00:53:41,320
I know you're under
a lot of stress and pressure,
1084
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,390
whether you think it or not.
I can see it in your face.
1085
00:53:44,590 --> 00:53:45,820
I know that you aren't sleeping,
1086
00:53:46,020 --> 00:53:49,360
and focusing so hard
is probably wearing you out.
1087
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,660
I'm sorry all this happened
during your record-making.
1088
00:53:52,860 --> 00:53:54,830
The other night,
I was truly asking questions
1089
00:53:55,030 --> 00:53:57,200
and trying to figure out my role
in the studio
1090
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,670
because it felt a lot like
I was unnecessary.
1091
00:54:00,870 --> 00:54:03,270
You made comments to me
that embarrassed me.
1092
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:04,840
Then you couldn't answer
the question about
1093
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,040
if I should be there or not
because you wanted me
1094
00:54:07,250 --> 00:54:08,380
to decide for myself.
1095
00:54:08,580 --> 00:54:11,450
Or as you said, 'I don't know
if I need you there.'
1096
00:54:12,820 --> 00:54:14,520
You were holding on so tight
to your position
1097
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:17,490
that you couldn't see that you
were hurting my feelings.
1098
00:54:17,690 --> 00:54:20,490
I had, and still have,
so many tears.
1099
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,160
I was considering
marriage counseling with you
1100
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,760
this last week
because I thought it might help.
1101
00:54:27,970 --> 00:54:30,840
Then this morning, I pictured
us going, and I was happy.
1102
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,970
Who gets excited
about marriage counseling?
1103
00:54:34,340 --> 00:54:36,540
Then I cried like a dingbat
because this is
1104
00:54:36,740 --> 00:54:39,310
what it has come to for me,
for us.
1105
00:54:39,510 --> 00:54:42,110
Dates to marriage counseling.
1106
00:54:42,310 --> 00:54:44,380
You know that I am open
to most all things,
1107
00:54:44,580 --> 00:54:46,320
and I'm quick to accept my share
1108
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,320
or more of my share
of the blame." Whoo.
1109
00:54:51,220 --> 00:54:53,420
"You said,
'I'm not broken anymore.'
1110
00:54:53,620 --> 00:54:56,260
I know that.
I appreciate how strong you are
1111
00:54:56,460 --> 00:54:58,300
and the ways
that you have changed.
1112
00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:01,200
I don't need you to be broken
or dented or anything.
1113
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,700
I just love you.
See you at the stooge."
1114
00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:07,100
(CHUCKLES)
1115
00:55:07,310 --> 00:55:14,610
♪ ("ST. PETER'S AUTOGRAPH"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1116
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,570
♪ What do I do
To make you smile? ♪
1117
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,400
♪ You been hurting for a while ♪
1118
00:55:40,270 --> 00:55:44,340
♪ What can I do
To make you laugh? ♪
1119
00:55:45,380 --> 00:55:47,950
♪ Get Saint Peter's autograph ♪
1120
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,650
♪ What's that distance
In your eye? ♪
1121
00:55:55,790 --> 00:55:58,860
♪ Has your faith
Been compromised? ♪
1122
00:56:01,030 --> 00:56:04,730
♪ What can I do
To help you sleep? ♪
1123
00:56:06,430 --> 00:56:09,040
♪ I'll work hard
And work for cheap ♪
1124
00:56:11,870 --> 00:56:17,080
♪ Sometimes it's nothing
But the way you're wired ♪
1125
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,580
♪ And that's not your fault ♪
1126
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:27,490
♪ We're all struggling
With the world on fire ♪
1127
00:56:27,690 --> 00:56:30,860
♪ And the fear we're taught ♪
1128
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,030
♪ Now you've lost
Another friend ♪
1129
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:43,670
♪ Who couldn't stay
To see the end ♪
1130
00:56:45,770 --> 00:56:49,080
♪ He had somewhere else to be ♪
1131
00:56:51,340 --> 00:56:54,150
♪ Cut him down
And burn the tree ♪
1132
00:56:56,450 --> 00:57:00,620
♪ There's no shelter
From the rain ♪
1133
00:57:01,850 --> 00:57:05,160
♪ And I can't comprehend
Your pain ♪
1134
00:57:07,350 --> 00:57:11,470
♪ But I got arms
And I got ears ♪
1135
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,700
♪ And I will always be
Right here ♪
1136
00:58:02,410 --> 00:58:05,220
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
1137
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,460
Amanda and I have very
different personalities
1138
00:58:13,660 --> 00:58:15,490
but identical values.
1139
00:58:15,690 --> 00:58:17,760
I think at the root of things,
we both care very,
1140
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,000
very much for each other
and very much
1141
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,300
for each other's work.
1142
00:58:21,500 --> 00:58:24,200
I don't think
she's done with me,
1143
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,900
and I'm not done with her.
1144
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:28,200
So, sometimes it's like,
"Well, we can't figure out
1145
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,910
exactly how to get
the bridge built,
1146
00:58:31,110 --> 00:58:33,910
but I'm just gonna wave
at you from this side."
1147
00:58:34,110 --> 00:58:37,010
Then you have
to keep your own identity
1148
00:58:37,220 --> 00:58:40,350
and your own boundaries intact,
I think. So, I think sometimes,
1149
00:58:40,550 --> 00:58:41,790
like, space and time
is a good thing
1150
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:43,790
'cause we, like, live together,
we work together,
1151
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:45,360
- we record together.
- Yeah, that's a big one.
1152
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:46,720
- That's a big one.
- And so sometimes,
1153
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:51,000
it's nice to take a breath
and be, like... you know...
1154
00:59:11,550 --> 00:59:16,350
(DOOR OPENING, CLOSES)
1155
00:59:16,550 --> 00:59:19,360
JASON: Well, hello.
Look at your overalls.
1156
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:20,890
MERCY ROSE:
I have a present for you.
1157
00:59:21,090 --> 00:59:22,190
JASON: What is it?
1158
00:59:22,390 --> 00:59:23,890
- Aw!
- MERCY: Open it.
1159
00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:25,900
JASON: Come on in.
I'll open it inside.
1160
00:59:26,100 --> 00:59:27,330
- Hey, guys.
- MAN: Hey, buddy.
1161
00:59:27,530 --> 00:59:28,830
- How you doing?
- JASON: Thanks for coming.
1162
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:30,270
♪ (SOFT VIOLIN MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1163
00:59:40,650 --> 00:59:42,210
I haven't been here
in a long time.
1164
00:59:42,410 --> 00:59:43,550
JASON: I know.
It's been a while.
1165
00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:45,320
What do you think
about the place?
1166
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,920
You hear that?
Who's that sound like?
1167
00:59:53,130 --> 00:59:54,960
- MERCY: Mommy.
- JASON: Yeah.
1168
00:59:57,100 --> 00:59:58,330
That's neat too.
1169
00:59:59,370 --> 01:00:00,630
Go see her.
1170
01:00:00,830 --> 01:00:02,530
- Hey!
- DAVE: Hey, Mercy.
1171
01:00:02,740 --> 01:00:05,370
- What's up?
- (MERCY CHUCKLES)
1172
01:00:05,570 --> 01:00:06,770
How are you doing?
1173
01:00:06,970 --> 01:00:08,840
- MERCY: I gave Daddy a present.
- AMANDA: You did?
1174
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,950
Mm. Give me some love.
I missed you so much.
1175
01:00:16,780 --> 01:00:18,950
Thank y'all for bringing her by.
1176
01:00:19,790 --> 01:00:22,490
- MERCY: Open it!
- Look at that!
1177
01:00:22,690 --> 01:00:23,550
It's me and Santa.
1178
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,420
That's the best picture
I ever got.
1179
01:00:26,620 --> 01:00:28,260
That's the best picture
I ever gotten.
1180
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,770
- I love you, buddy.
- Did you eat the chocolate?
1181
01:00:33,970 --> 01:00:36,500
I haven't yet.
I put it in my pocket.
1182
01:00:36,700 --> 01:00:38,870
I'm gonna eat it
at the perfect time.
1183
01:00:39,070 --> 01:00:41,510
- After dinner.
- Yeah. (CHUCKLES)
1184
01:00:41,710 --> 01:00:43,870
♪ ("WHAT'VE I DONE TO HELP"
BY JASON ISBELL
PLAYING OVER SPEAKERS) ♪
1185
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,640
♪ We climbed to safety
You and me and the baby ♪
1186
01:00:47,850 --> 01:00:50,080
♪ Sent our thoughts
And prayers to loved ones ♪
1187
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:51,220
♪ On the ground ♪
1188
01:00:54,490 --> 01:00:59,060
♪ And as the days went by
We just stopped looking down ♪
1189
01:00:59,260 --> 01:01:01,130
♪ Down, down ♪
1190
01:01:01,330 --> 01:01:05,530
♪ Now the world's on fire
And we just climb higher ♪
1191
01:01:05,730 --> 01:01:10,200
♪ Until we're no longer bothered
By the smoke and sound ♪
1192
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,840
♪ Good people suffer
And the heart gets tougher ♪
1193
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,850
♪ Nothing given, nothing found ♪
1194
01:01:20,250 --> 01:01:24,380
♪ What've I done to help?
What've I done to help? ♪
1195
01:01:24,580 --> 01:01:26,350
♪ Somebody saved me ♪
1196
01:01:28,220 --> 01:01:29,190
♪ (SONG FADES) ♪
1197
01:01:29,390 --> 01:01:30,760
JASON: I don't look at something
and think,
1198
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,190
"This is gonna be difficult."
1199
01:01:32,390 --> 01:01:35,930
I just look at it and think,
"Is this worth doing or not?"
1200
01:01:36,130 --> 01:01:39,800
Is it better for us to do this
as a team?
1201
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:41,830
My family
is incredibly important to me,
1202
01:01:42,030 --> 01:01:44,100
but my job is very important
to me, too,
1203
01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:47,310
because I know
that I could not be
1204
01:01:47,510 --> 01:01:49,640
of any use to anybody else
1205
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,140
if I had to do
something different
1206
01:01:51,340 --> 01:01:53,450
with my life. I mean,
this is the mask
1207
01:01:53,650 --> 01:01:55,550
that I have to put on first
1208
01:01:55,750 --> 01:01:58,320
before I can put
anybody else's on, you know?
1209
01:01:58,520 --> 01:01:59,180
Dave, you ready?
1210
01:01:59,380 --> 01:02:00,820
DAVE: Do you want to sit
the couch or...
1211
01:02:01,020 --> 01:02:02,750
- JASON: I think here is fine.
- DAVE: Okay.
1212
01:02:02,950 --> 01:02:04,820
Let's put it in record, Gena.
1213
01:02:06,290 --> 01:02:07,190
All right.
1214
01:02:07,390 --> 01:02:10,830
♪ ("LETTING YOU GO"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1215
01:02:11,030 --> 01:02:14,870
♪ The nurse helped us buckle
The seat in the car ♪
1216
01:02:15,070 --> 01:02:17,400
♪ And they sent us on our way ♪
1217
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,870
♪ I drove home so slow ♪
1218
01:02:20,070 --> 01:02:23,940
♪ We had no instructions
And the first days were hard ♪
1219
01:02:24,140 --> 01:02:26,580
♪ But there's things
About babies ♪
1220
01:02:26,780 --> 01:02:29,050
♪ A woman just knows ♪
1221
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,650
♪ At 3:00 in the morning ♪
1222
01:02:34,850 --> 01:02:37,750
♪ I lay my hand
Over your heart ♪
1223
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:41,360
♪ Just to know you were safe
In your sleep ♪
1224
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:45,460
♪ When you started walking
I'd fight back the urge ♪
1225
01:02:45,660 --> 01:02:50,870
♪ To stay right there beside you
To keep you on your feet ♪
1226
01:02:54,810 --> 01:02:58,080
♪ And being your daddy
Comes natural ♪
1227
01:02:59,580 --> 01:03:02,450
♪ Roses just know how to grow ♪
1228
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:05,680
♪ It's easy to see ♪
1229
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,320
♪ That you'll get
Where you're going ♪
1230
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:12,390
♪ But the hard part
Is letting you go... ♪
1231
01:03:12,590 --> 01:03:13,730
♪ (SONGS CONCLUDES) ♪
1232
01:03:13,930 --> 01:03:17,490
- Hmm, hmm. Hmm.
- DAVE: Shit, dude. Whoo.
1233
01:03:17,700 --> 01:03:21,500
- That's incredible.
- Thank you. Take me a minute.
1234
01:03:21,700 --> 01:03:24,000
And then, the older you get,
the more emotional you get.
1235
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:25,870
Like, I can't hardly talk
to anybody
1236
01:03:26,070 --> 01:03:28,940
without something
choking me up now.
1237
01:03:29,140 --> 01:03:30,370
It's a good thing
you don't have a bunch
1238
01:03:30,580 --> 01:03:32,810
of hired guns in your band
when that happens
1239
01:03:33,010 --> 01:03:35,050
'cause they'd be going off
tomorrow to Black Bird
1240
01:03:35,250 --> 01:03:36,210
and telling everybody
in the studio,
1241
01:03:36,410 --> 01:03:38,520
"That son of a bitch was crying
at his own song.
1242
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:39,880
What an asshole."
1243
01:03:40,090 --> 01:03:41,350
♪ (SONG CONTINUES) ♪
1244
01:03:41,550 --> 01:03:45,490
♪ And now you've decided
To be someone's wife ♪
1245
01:03:45,690 --> 01:03:50,630
♪ And we walk down the aisle
And I'll give you away ♪
1246
01:03:50,830 --> 01:03:55,030
♪ I wish I could walk with him
Back through your life ♪
1247
01:03:55,230 --> 01:04:00,240
♪ To see every last minute
Of every last day ♪
1248
01:04:04,210 --> 01:04:05,880
♪ To hear your first words ♪
1249
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,550
♪ And to feel
Your first heartbreak ♪
1250
01:04:08,750 --> 01:04:13,450
♪ To sing you to sleep
When you're scared of the dark ♪
1251
01:04:13,650 --> 01:04:17,820
♪ The best I can do
Is to let myself trust ♪
1252
01:04:18,020 --> 01:04:20,830
♪ That you know
Who'll be strong enough ♪
1253
01:04:21,030 --> 01:04:23,530
♪ To carry your heart ♪
1254
01:04:26,570 --> 01:04:29,200
♪ And being your daddy
Comes natural... ♪
1255
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,300
DAVE: I'm a dad.
1256
01:04:30,500 --> 01:04:32,440
I can't help but to hear
the lyrics on that one.
1257
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:33,810
He's always got those songs,
1258
01:04:34,010 --> 01:04:36,300
that jerk, he makes us
all a mess and cry.
1259
01:04:36,500 --> 01:04:37,910
♪ It's easy to see ♪
1260
01:04:38,110 --> 01:04:40,410
♪ That you'll get
Where you're going ♪
1261
01:04:40,610 --> 01:04:44,520
♪ But the hard part
Is letting you go ♪
1262
01:04:45,450 --> 01:04:49,590
♪ The hard part
Is letting you go ♪
1263
01:04:49,790 --> 01:04:51,330
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
1264
01:04:54,730 --> 01:04:56,160
The good thing
is your daughter's four.
1265
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,360
- JASON: Mm-hmm.
- Got some time. (CHUCKLES)
1266
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,060
JASON: Yeah.
1267
01:05:00,270 --> 01:05:02,300
Yeah, you're right.
I do have some time.
1268
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,550
- Love you so much. I miss you.
- (WHISPERS) Love you so much.
1269
01:05:13,750 --> 01:05:14,910
- But, hey, guess what?
- What?
1270
01:05:15,110 --> 01:05:16,080
We get done with this record,
1271
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:18,020
that means we get
to go back on tour
1272
01:05:18,220 --> 01:05:20,020
and play new songs
for everybody
1273
01:05:20,220 --> 01:05:22,290
and go have lots
of fun together, okay?
1274
01:05:22,490 --> 01:05:25,190
- Maybe do "Oh Well" again?
- I'll do "Oh Well" again.
1275
01:05:25,390 --> 01:05:26,460
- That's your favorite?
- And "Anxiety?"
1276
01:05:26,660 --> 01:05:29,630
Yeah, and "Anxiety."
All your favorites.
1277
01:05:31,060 --> 01:05:32,260
I won't throw them out.
1278
01:05:32,460 --> 01:05:34,000
I'll still play them
for you, okay?
1279
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:35,900
Okay.
When will you throw them out?
1280
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:37,130
I don't think I ever will.
1281
01:05:37,340 --> 01:05:38,770
I think I'll just
keep playing them for you
1282
01:05:38,970 --> 01:05:40,200
as long as you want
to hear them, okay?
1283
01:05:40,410 --> 01:05:42,010
I want to hear them forever.
1284
01:05:42,210 --> 01:05:44,440
Okay, good. Well,
that's what we'll do.
1285
01:05:45,550 --> 01:05:47,350
(KISSES)
1286
01:05:47,550 --> 01:05:50,650
- You'll always be with me.
- Yeah, I will.
1287
01:05:51,580 --> 01:05:54,050
- Ever.
- Forever.
1288
01:05:54,250 --> 01:05:56,390
Always be your what?
What are we?
1289
01:05:56,590 --> 01:05:58,320
- BFFs.
- BFFs.
1290
01:05:58,520 --> 01:05:59,520
(MERCY WHISPERING)
1291
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,060
JASON: You know, you get
in this headspace,
1292
01:06:01,260 --> 01:06:03,230
I think, when you're an addict,
where you think,
1293
01:06:03,430 --> 01:06:07,130
"I can control my little corner
of the universe."
1294
01:06:07,330 --> 01:06:09,670
And things come in
and remind you that
1295
01:06:09,870 --> 01:06:11,170
that's not really possible.
1296
01:06:11,370 --> 01:06:15,540
So, all you can really control
is your reactions to things.
1297
01:06:15,740 --> 01:06:17,970
(BIRDS CHIRPING)
1298
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:25,580
(NEIGHS)
1299
01:06:25,780 --> 01:06:28,790
SAM JONES: (OVER LAPTOP) Okay,
so you push the red button.
1300
01:06:28,990 --> 01:06:31,190
Is there a red light
on the screen?
1301
01:06:31,860 --> 01:06:33,290
JASON: Red dot is on.
1302
01:06:33,490 --> 01:06:35,530
SAM: Can you get some audio
on the back of camera, too?
1303
01:06:35,730 --> 01:06:37,030
Is there some movement
when you make--
1304
01:06:37,230 --> 01:06:39,560
JASON: Hello. Hey, audio, yeah.
Yeah, that's working.
1305
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,200
SAM: Okay, good.
Welcome to pandemic filmmaking.
1306
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,600
Let me just close
this Zoom window here,
1307
01:06:45,810 --> 01:06:47,140
and we'll be ready to go.
1308
01:06:47,340 --> 01:06:49,210
AMANDA: Ready for your first
interview questions?
1309
01:06:49,410 --> 01:06:50,310
Yeah.
1310
01:06:51,310 --> 01:06:53,240
SAM: What does quarantine
mean to you?
1311
01:06:53,450 --> 01:06:55,480
It means that you have
to stay home.
1312
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,550
SAM: What do you like
to do during the day
1313
01:06:57,750 --> 01:06:59,320
- in quarantine?
- Well...
1314
01:07:02,050 --> 01:07:06,230
sometimes, just sometimes...
1315
01:07:10,060 --> 01:07:13,000
I have the best days ever.
1316
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,940
Momma! Stay back!
It's not a good idea!
1317
01:07:17,140 --> 01:07:19,500
AMANDA: (CHUCKLES)
What's not a good idea, huh?
1318
01:07:19,700 --> 01:07:20,770
Here you go. Here you go.
1319
01:07:20,970 --> 01:07:22,110
Do you want
to give them some food?
1320
01:07:22,310 --> 01:07:23,410
That's what they're following
you for.
1321
01:07:23,610 --> 01:07:25,680
- Really? Throw some.
- AMANDA: Okay.
1322
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:26,780
Who's gonna get it?
1323
01:07:26,980 --> 01:07:28,510
AMANDA: You know, I've been
touring since I was 12
1324
01:07:28,710 --> 01:07:30,580
and professionally
since I was 15.
1325
01:07:30,780 --> 01:07:33,950
And this is the first time
in my whole life
1326
01:07:34,150 --> 01:07:37,860
that I haven't played music,
like,
1327
01:07:38,060 --> 01:07:40,890
at least once every four
or five days.
1328
01:07:41,090 --> 01:07:43,160
JASON: One coming
right behind you, Momma.
1329
01:07:44,860 --> 01:07:47,230
(CLUCKS)
1330
01:07:47,430 --> 01:07:49,370
- JASON: Ow!
- (AMANDA CHUCKLES)
1331
01:07:49,570 --> 01:07:52,240
- JASON: Boy, she got me hard.
- MERCY: One pecked my leg.
1332
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,270
JASON: She got my toe big time,
thinking it was a worm.
1333
01:07:55,470 --> 01:07:56,970
TRACI: Technically,
this is probably
1334
01:07:57,180 --> 01:07:58,210
the most time Jason and Amanda
1335
01:07:58,410 --> 01:08:00,080
have ever actually
spent together.
1336
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:01,550
(SCREAMS)
They're pecking my toes.
1337
01:08:01,750 --> 01:08:03,610
TRACI: Amanda very much
has her own career
1338
01:08:03,820 --> 01:08:06,680
outside the 400 Unit.
So there can be weeks at a time
1339
01:08:06,890 --> 01:08:08,990
when they're not together
because they're each
1340
01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:11,720
touring
behind their own projects.
1341
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,430
JASON: Usually, she goes
somewhere and I go somewhere,
1342
01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:18,530
and then we come back together,
and we compare our experiences.
1343
01:08:18,730 --> 01:08:20,200
- AMANDA: Yeah.
- JASON: And now all of a sudden,
1344
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,370
that has stopped.
1345
01:08:22,570 --> 01:08:25,240
The ways that we used
to celebrate being alive
1346
01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:29,140
are not available to us now,
so we celebrate being alive
1347
01:08:29,340 --> 01:08:31,900
by catching fireflies
and watching skunks
1348
01:08:32,110 --> 01:08:35,110
and picking flowers
and weeding the garden.
1349
01:08:35,310 --> 01:08:36,580
This is not Thoreau.
1350
01:08:36,780 --> 01:08:38,280
I'm not saying
that this is the way
1351
01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:40,020
- humans should live.
- AMANDA: But we don't get to--
1352
01:08:40,220 --> 01:08:41,520
- JASON: I don't like it.
- AMANDA: Yeah.
1353
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,250
I didn't used to be
a stop-and-look-in-the-bird-nest
1354
01:08:44,460 --> 01:08:45,460
- kind of guy.
- (CHUCKLES)
1355
01:08:45,660 --> 01:08:49,030
- But I'm an egg counter now.
- (AMANDA CHUCKLES)
1356
01:08:49,230 --> 01:08:50,630
(MERCY GROANS)
1357
01:08:51,530 --> 01:08:52,300
(SHRIEKING)
1358
01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:54,160
JASON: There they go.
1359
01:08:54,370 --> 01:08:57,070
How do you like
that new voice you got, babies?
1360
01:08:57,270 --> 01:08:58,340
(CHUCKLES)
1361
01:08:58,540 --> 01:08:59,840
AMANDA: I don't know
if it's just that the lens
1362
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:00,940
has gotten so small
1363
01:09:01,140 --> 01:09:02,140
'cause we're
in these little bubbles
1364
01:09:02,340 --> 01:09:05,380
of our own stuff,
but I'm wrestling with what,
1365
01:09:05,580 --> 01:09:08,620
like, what are--
what is our purpose now?
1366
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,550
I knew she would do that.
She always does that.
1367
01:09:11,750 --> 01:09:15,250
Did you see her? You missed her?
She flew right out.
1368
01:09:15,450 --> 01:09:18,260
And always get her
at a bad time.
1369
01:09:18,460 --> 01:09:19,790
- Three little eggs.
- I caught it!
1370
01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:22,130
AMANDA: Nurturing things
and distracting myself
1371
01:09:22,330 --> 01:09:25,400
is the best way
that I can sort of, you know,
1372
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:29,340
try to not think too hard
on all this crap.
1373
01:09:29,940 --> 01:09:30,770
Hello?
1374
01:09:30,970 --> 01:09:32,200
JOSH: (OVER CELL PHONE)
Hey, is that Jason?
1375
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:33,470
Yeah, this is Jason.
1376
01:09:33,670 --> 01:09:34,840
JOSH: Hey, Jason.
This is Josh from Guitar.com.
1377
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,410
- How's it going, man?
- How are you doing, Josh?
1378
01:09:37,610 --> 01:09:39,410
JOSH: Yeah, yeah,
not too bad, man, not too bad.
1379
01:09:39,610 --> 01:09:41,080
- How you doing yourself?
- Doing all right.
1380
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,410
We're all stuck
in the house still,
1381
01:09:43,620 --> 01:09:45,120
but we're healthy.
We're doing okay.
1382
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:46,550
- (CELL PHONE BEEPS)
- Oh, wait. I'm getting
1383
01:09:46,750 --> 01:09:48,590
another call
from London right now.
1384
01:09:48,790 --> 01:09:50,220
- Let me--
Hold on there a second.
- JOSH: Okay.
1385
01:09:50,420 --> 01:09:53,090
Are you with the Sun?
1386
01:09:53,290 --> 01:09:55,690
JOSH: Uh, no.
I'm with Guitar.com.
1387
01:09:55,890 --> 01:10:00,730
Okay. I've got you listed
for 12:30. Can you call me back?
1388
01:10:00,930 --> 01:10:02,370
JOSH: Yeah, yeah,
definitely, definitely...
1389
01:10:02,570 --> 01:10:04,430
Fantastic. We'll do that
in an hour and a half.
1390
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:06,870
- JOSH: Okay. That's good, man.
- Thank you.
1391
01:10:10,340 --> 01:10:13,210
They never ever get
the times right.
1392
01:10:13,410 --> 01:10:14,980
I'm so glad you saw that.
1393
01:10:18,650 --> 01:10:20,250
TRACI:
Since the pandemic started,
1394
01:10:20,450 --> 01:10:25,090
we are constantly evolving
our plans for the record,
1395
01:10:25,290 --> 01:10:26,390
plans for touring,
1396
01:10:26,590 --> 01:10:29,030
trying to keep the ball rolling,
basically.
1397
01:10:29,230 --> 01:10:33,460
The record's called Reunions,
and it is done. It is complete.
1398
01:10:33,670 --> 01:10:36,670
This is the beautiful vinyl
that we will be releasing out
1399
01:10:36,870 --> 01:10:37,700
into this mad world.
1400
01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:39,270
JOSH: (OVER CELL PHONE)
It's a strange time
1401
01:10:39,470 --> 01:10:41,210
to be releasing an album
in some ways, isn't it?
1402
01:10:41,410 --> 01:10:43,440
Yeah, it's a strange time
to be doing anything.
1403
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,680
It's a strange time to go
to the grocery store.
1404
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,650
But, you know,
definitely releasing an album
1405
01:10:48,850 --> 01:10:52,650
because you're so used to
that immediate gratification
1406
01:10:52,850 --> 01:10:55,320
of going out
and performing the songs live.
1407
01:10:59,290 --> 01:11:04,330
♪ (MELLOW MUSIC
PLAYING ON GUITAR) ♪
1408
01:11:04,530 --> 01:11:07,600
- Hello. Oh, hello. Hello.
- AMANDA: I had the lens cap on.
1409
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:10,800
Hello, lens cap
from the world of tomorrow.
1410
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,870
- AMANDA: Welcome to sound check.
- Welcome.
1411
01:11:15,940 --> 01:11:17,340
AMANDA: There's Zach.
1412
01:11:18,650 --> 01:11:20,310
JASON: It's dark out here.
1413
01:11:21,110 --> 01:11:23,380
Here's our things.
1414
01:11:23,580 --> 01:11:25,350
You can see the only thing
we've opened so far
1415
01:11:25,550 --> 01:11:27,590
are the Doritos.
And by "we," I mean "me."
1416
01:11:27,790 --> 01:11:29,090
AMANDA:
Happy record release day.
1417
01:11:29,290 --> 01:11:30,520
JASON: Happy record release day.
1418
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,390
Amanda Shires
being her glam squad.
1419
01:11:33,590 --> 01:11:35,330
Be your own glam squad.
1420
01:11:35,530 --> 01:11:37,230
AMANDA: Tell us how you feel
about release day.
1421
01:11:37,430 --> 01:11:38,930
I feel good about release day.
1422
01:11:39,130 --> 01:11:42,970
It's exciting to release
an album that I feel good about.
1423
01:11:43,170 --> 01:11:46,100
I think it's a good album,
but it's also really weird
1424
01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:49,370
because the pandemic has changed
the way we do everything,
1425
01:11:49,570 --> 01:11:51,410
- including releasing the album.
- And we miss our band today.
1426
01:11:51,610 --> 01:11:54,380
We miss our band so much.
We miss our audience.
1427
01:11:54,580 --> 01:11:56,080
- AMANDA: Yeah.
- JASON: We miss our crew.
1428
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:57,310
I miss our bus.
1429
01:11:57,520 --> 01:11:58,650
♪ ("IT GETS EASIER"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1430
01:11:58,850 --> 01:12:01,490
♪ Last night I dreamed
That I'd been drinking ♪
1431
01:12:01,690 --> 01:12:05,420
♪ Same dream
I have about twice a week ♪
1432
01:12:05,620 --> 01:12:09,190
♪ I had a glass of wine
I woke up feeling fine ♪
1433
01:12:09,390 --> 01:12:11,800
♪ And that's how I knew
It was a dream ♪
1434
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:16,870
♪ It gets easier
But it never gets easy ♪
1435
01:12:19,540 --> 01:12:24,340
♪ I can say it's all worth it
But you won't believe me ♪
1436
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,820
♪ And you can't expect her
To follow your lead ♪
1437
01:12:31,020 --> 01:12:33,920
♪ She's fine with her wine
And her weed ♪
1438
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:38,890
♪ It gets easier
But it never gets easy ♪
1439
01:12:40,230 --> 01:12:42,500
♪ It never gets easy... ♪
1440
01:12:43,900 --> 01:12:45,960
JASON: This album was
the biggest thing
1441
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:47,600
that I've ever done.
1442
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,570
And the process
of making it wasn't easy.
1443
01:12:51,770 --> 01:12:53,700
I wanted to be there
with my band, making really,
1444
01:12:53,900 --> 01:12:56,710
really loud noises and then,
you know, eating dinner
1445
01:12:56,910 --> 01:12:59,680
and drinking some kind
of non-alcoholic cocktail
1446
01:12:59,880 --> 01:13:03,250
and high-fiving each other,
making goofy speeches.
1447
01:13:03,450 --> 01:13:05,650
And that was not available
to me.
1448
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:17,130
♪ It gets easier
But it never gets easy ♪
1449
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:20,500
♪ It never gets easy ♪
1450
01:13:25,540 --> 01:13:27,740
♪ It never gets easy ♪
1451
01:13:31,540 --> 01:13:35,180
- ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
- (AUDIENCE CHEERING)
1452
01:13:35,380 --> 01:13:36,910
Amanda says, "Congratulations.
1453
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,690
I know it's not what you hoped,
but it's awesome."
1454
01:13:40,550 --> 01:13:41,590
And thank you very much.
1455
01:13:41,790 --> 01:13:44,260
Thank you
for understanding that.
1456
01:13:44,460 --> 01:13:46,490
'Cause it is weird as shit.
This is weird.
1457
01:13:46,690 --> 01:13:48,660
If you got little kids,
tell 'em don't say "shit"
1458
01:13:48,860 --> 01:13:50,860
if you want to,
but I'm gonna say it again.
1459
01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:53,390
This is weird as shit,
but it would feel weirder
1460
01:13:53,590 --> 01:13:55,900
to not put a record out
because when I make a record,
1461
01:13:56,100 --> 01:13:59,470
I make it about my life
and how my life is then.
1462
01:13:59,670 --> 01:14:02,510
And my life changes,
so I don't want to wait a year
1463
01:14:02,710 --> 01:14:05,310
and then talk about
what my life was like.
1464
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:07,750
- Thanks.
- AMANDA: Happy record release!
1465
01:14:07,950 --> 01:14:09,750
- JASON: Yay!
- (AUDIENCE CHEERING)
1466
01:14:09,950 --> 01:14:11,680
JASON: You know,
it turned out being better
1467
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,950
than I expected,
and it turned out
1468
01:14:14,150 --> 01:14:17,350
being a great experience for me
and for the audience, I think,
1469
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:19,690
but it wasn't
what I wanted to do.
1470
01:14:19,890 --> 01:14:23,560
And that sort of lack
of celebration...
1471
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:26,700
was... was deflating for me.
1472
01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:30,970
♪ (UPBEAT DRUMS PLAYING) ♪
1473
01:14:34,970 --> 01:14:36,740
CHAD: When the record
was due to drop,
1474
01:14:36,940 --> 01:14:39,780
I was still holding on
to hope that before too long,
1475
01:14:39,980 --> 01:14:41,880
we can get out
and do something behind this.
1476
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,920
When I finally came around
to the reality,
1477
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,350
which is, I'm not going anywhere
for a good while,
1478
01:14:49,550 --> 01:14:51,490
depression would kind of set in.
1479
01:14:53,390 --> 01:14:55,190
TRACI: The guys need
some love.
1480
01:14:55,390 --> 01:14:56,730
They're really proud
of the record,
1481
01:14:56,930 --> 01:14:59,960
and they just are sitting home,
watching from the sidelines.
1482
01:15:00,170 --> 01:15:01,100
♪ (MUSIC FADES) ♪
1483
01:15:03,770 --> 01:15:07,170
JIMBO: It doesn't feel right.
It's unsettling, you know.
1484
01:15:07,370 --> 01:15:11,480
I feel like I should be on tour,
you know? I mean, I really do.
1485
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,950
My body is telling me
I should have wheels...
1486
01:15:14,150 --> 01:15:16,680
(CHUCKLES) ...underneath me
right now, you know?
1487
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,820
Like I feel the pull
of the highway, so to speak.
1488
01:15:20,020 --> 01:15:21,820
♪ (ELECTRONIC MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1489
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:32,060
DERRY: The way
I've been dealing with it
1490
01:15:32,260 --> 01:15:35,700
has just been to go
with the flow of things.
1491
01:15:37,170 --> 01:15:39,070
TRACI: I have no idea
what Derry's doing.
1492
01:15:39,270 --> 01:15:41,110
He looks like
he's building a spaceship.
1493
01:15:41,310 --> 01:15:45,080
(BEEPS)
1494
01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:47,610
(WHIRRS)
1495
01:15:50,950 --> 01:15:52,850
SADLER: The new
400 Unit record,Reunions,
1496
01:15:53,050 --> 01:15:55,050
is the top-selling album
in the country.
1497
01:15:55,250 --> 01:15:57,020
In a different time,
if you had the number-one record
1498
01:15:57,220 --> 01:15:58,690
on the charts,
you wouldn't be so worried
1499
01:15:58,890 --> 01:16:01,260
about the next month.
1500
01:16:01,460 --> 01:16:03,700
JASON: Considering the fact
that we're in a pandemic,
1501
01:16:03,900 --> 01:16:06,460
I expected way less
and was prepared
1502
01:16:06,670 --> 01:16:07,800
to be okay with that.
1503
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,900
So this is an incredible
surprise for me.
1504
01:16:11,100 --> 01:16:12,970
SADLER: In some ways,
it's a bittersweet thing,
1505
01:16:13,170 --> 01:16:15,610
but I will say I never thought
I would play in a band
1506
01:16:15,810 --> 01:16:18,140
that had a number-one anything.
1507
01:16:18,340 --> 01:16:21,010
What I meant to say was,
I always knew I'd play in a band
1508
01:16:21,210 --> 01:16:22,920
that would have
a number-one album.
1509
01:16:25,150 --> 01:16:26,220
One, two, three.
1510
01:16:26,420 --> 01:16:28,150
♪ ("WHAT'VE I DONE TO HELP?"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1511
01:16:28,350 --> 01:16:29,790
♪ What've I done to help? ♪
1512
01:16:29,990 --> 01:16:33,990
♪ What've I done to help?
Somebody saved me ♪
1513
01:16:37,130 --> 01:16:41,330
♪ What've I done to help?
What've I done to help? ♪
1514
01:16:41,530 --> 01:16:43,340
♪ And not myself? ♪
1515
01:16:46,770 --> 01:16:50,610
♪ What've I done to help?
What've I done to help? ♪
1516
01:16:50,810 --> 01:16:53,010
♪ Somebody saved me ♪
1517
01:16:53,210 --> 01:16:55,350
JASON: I had a little bit
of a come-apart yesterday.
1518
01:16:55,550 --> 01:16:59,950
Amanda and I were filming
a live performance for CBS,
1519
01:17:00,150 --> 01:17:03,150
and about halfway through
the first song,
1520
01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:08,030
the Amazon delivery guy came up
onto the porch
1521
01:17:08,230 --> 01:17:09,760
- and dropped something off.
- (TRUCK BEEPING)
1522
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,400
JASON: It was sort of like
a breaking point for me.
1523
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,330
You know, I just told Amanda,
"I'm fucking tired of this.
1524
01:17:16,540 --> 01:17:17,770
I'm-- I've had enough.
1525
01:17:17,970 --> 01:17:21,110
I know that
we're in a much better situation
1526
01:17:21,310 --> 01:17:24,010
than most people are,
but I've still just had enough
1527
01:17:24,210 --> 01:17:27,610
of this shit.
It just fucking sucks."
1528
01:17:27,810 --> 01:17:29,710
It's like you sit down
to eat a sandwich,
1529
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,220
and all you have
are two slices of bread.
1530
01:17:32,420 --> 01:17:34,580
You don't have anything
to put in between it.
1531
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:36,790
You're trying to pretend
it's a sandwich,
1532
01:17:36,990 --> 01:17:39,090
and then halfway through it,
somebody comes up
1533
01:17:39,290 --> 01:17:41,430
and interrupts you.
And you want to say,
1534
01:17:41,630 --> 01:17:44,900
"Goddamn it, I'm already
just eating two slices of bread
1535
01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:46,800
and pretending it's a sandwich.
1536
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,670
Why can't you
just let me do that?"
1537
01:17:49,870 --> 01:17:51,040
AMANDA: He's not aware
when he does it,
1538
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:54,170
but he'll be like,
"Are you not having any fun?"
1539
01:17:54,370 --> 01:17:57,780
And then he stomps around
and is grumpy, and I was like,
1540
01:17:57,980 --> 01:18:00,780
"Are you having fun, you know?
What are you doing?"
1541
01:18:00,980 --> 01:18:03,080
But then after the recording,
he sat down
1542
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,880
and just started talking
about all of it.
1543
01:18:07,090 --> 01:18:09,050
Kind of just kind of, like, uh,
1544
01:18:09,250 --> 01:18:10,690
when you get
in an over-full bathtub,
1545
01:18:10,890 --> 01:18:13,090
but it just kind of splashes
everywhere.
1546
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,100
JASON: You know,
when's the next time
1547
01:18:18,300 --> 01:18:21,370
I'm gonna play a regular show
at The Greek
1548
01:18:21,570 --> 01:18:22,900
for thousands of people?
1549
01:18:23,100 --> 01:18:25,140
All crammed in together,
jumping up and down
1550
01:18:25,340 --> 01:18:27,340
and sweating and dancing
and having a good time.
1551
01:18:27,540 --> 01:18:31,110
Is it gonna be five years?
Is it ever gonna happen again?
1552
01:18:34,180 --> 01:18:36,010
If it wasn't for Amanda
and Mercy,
1553
01:18:36,220 --> 01:18:38,920
I would possibly go back
to drinking
1554
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:40,720
because who gives a fuck?
Who's even watching?
1555
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:41,990
Who's looking anymore?
1556
01:18:42,190 --> 01:18:43,750
It's not like
I'm gonna mess up a show.
1557
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:47,020
I can't go play one.
I'm not going to do that
1558
01:18:47,230 --> 01:18:49,660
because I spend a ton of time
with my daughter
1559
01:18:49,860 --> 01:18:52,000
and with my wife,
and I would let them down.
1560
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,630
But if they weren't around here,
I don't know if I would be safe.
1561
01:18:55,830 --> 01:18:58,470
I don't know
if my recovery would be safe.
1562
01:19:00,270 --> 01:19:07,310
♪ ("HURRICANES
AND HAND GRENADES"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1563
01:19:10,410 --> 01:19:12,390
♪ I got a glass of wine ♪
1564
01:19:14,090 --> 01:19:16,090
♪ I got a cigarette ♪
1565
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,430
♪ I should be feeling fine ♪
1566
01:19:21,290 --> 01:19:24,200
♪ But I ain't feeling
Nothing yet ♪
1567
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:29,170
♪ She's leading
The second line ♪
1568
01:19:29,370 --> 01:19:34,710
♪ Feel like I'm in front of it
And I guess I am tonight ♪
1569
01:19:34,910 --> 01:19:35,840
♪ (SONG FADES) ♪
1570
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,180
DERRY: Typical day
for the old Jason.
1571
01:19:38,380 --> 01:19:41,150
Wake up, it's probably
already past noon.
1572
01:19:42,380 --> 01:19:43,350
Get in the van.
1573
01:19:43,550 --> 01:19:46,020
There's probably some bottles
of liquor on the floor
1574
01:19:46,220 --> 01:19:48,520
of the van to tide you over,
1575
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,120
unload the gear,
drink some more.
1576
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,490
Play a show
while drinking some more.
1577
01:19:53,690 --> 01:19:57,030
- (CROWD CHEERING)
- ♪ (UPBEAT ROCK MUSIC PLAYING) ♪
1578
01:19:57,230 --> 01:19:59,800
DERRY: Finish the show,
drink some more,
1579
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,930
and then hit repeat.
1580
01:20:02,130 --> 01:20:03,600
CHAD:
There was usually never a day
1581
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,340
filled with great decisions.
(CHUCKLES)
1582
01:20:06,540 --> 01:20:08,910
I mean, the day-to-day
was pretty rough.
1583
01:20:09,110 --> 01:20:10,370
DERRY: Right before
Jason went sober,
1584
01:20:10,580 --> 01:20:14,150
I was actually looking online
for internet security courses.
1585
01:20:14,350 --> 01:20:15,950
(CHUCKLES)
1586
01:20:16,150 --> 01:20:20,150
Just as a fallback in case
everything self-destructed.
1587
01:20:20,350 --> 01:20:23,960
JASON: Honestly,
I didn't consider getting sober
1588
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:25,890
until I met Amanda.
1589
01:20:26,090 --> 01:20:27,060
You know, I thought
1590
01:20:27,260 --> 01:20:30,730
she's not gonna...
stick around for this.
1591
01:20:30,930 --> 01:20:32,160
You know, at first,
when you're hanging out,
1592
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:35,130
you think that a person,
you see 'em off and on,
1593
01:20:35,330 --> 01:20:36,670
they're just having fun
that night
1594
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:37,840
or for a couple of nights,
1595
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:39,300
and it just got
progressively worse and worse,
1596
01:20:39,500 --> 01:20:43,480
and, um, you start
noticing patterns, like about...
1597
01:20:44,310 --> 01:20:46,210
he never woke up
in the morning.
1598
01:20:46,410 --> 01:20:50,110
It was always in the afternoon.
But he always woke up drinking.
1599
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,920
And there's a lot of things
that go along with that
1600
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:55,960
that are not fun
to be around, but...
1601
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,160
JASON: One night,
I got real drunk,
1602
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,930
and I said, "I need help
to quit drinking
1603
01:21:01,130 --> 01:21:02,890
and I don't think
I can do it on my own."
1604
01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:06,330
And... Amanda said,
"Well, you know,
1605
01:21:06,530 --> 01:21:09,170
if you're sure about that,
you know,
1606
01:21:09,370 --> 01:21:10,870
I'm gonna have
to do some things,
1607
01:21:11,070 --> 01:21:12,500
and you're not gonna like 'em."
1608
01:21:12,700 --> 01:21:17,070
I really think that somebody
probably would've helped
1609
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:18,940
or tried to help
if it hadn't been me.
1610
01:21:19,140 --> 01:21:20,240
Or I hope somebody would.
1611
01:21:20,450 --> 01:21:23,380
So it started with a text
from her that it was time,
1612
01:21:23,580 --> 01:21:25,580
and I said, "Well,
I need to hear that from him."
1613
01:21:25,780 --> 01:21:27,650
And he texted me
that "I think it's time
1614
01:21:27,850 --> 01:21:29,750
I do something
about my drinking.
1615
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:31,190
I want to be present
1616
01:21:31,390 --> 01:21:32,760
while all this good stuff
is happening."
1617
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:34,990
Not like
in the Drive-By Truckers days.
1618
01:21:35,190 --> 01:21:36,930
JASON: So Traci went
to the rehab folks,
1619
01:21:37,130 --> 01:21:40,630
and earliest they could get me
in was Monday.
1620
01:21:40,830 --> 01:21:41,800
The Saturday night,
1621
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:43,900
we were playing
a private show in Virginia.
1622
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:46,000
It was his last hurrah.
1623
01:21:46,210 --> 01:21:47,770
And I don't think
I've ever told him this
1624
01:21:47,970 --> 01:21:50,840
that I have the audio
and the DVD of that.
1625
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:52,980
And it's just something
I've always tucked away
1626
01:21:53,180 --> 01:21:54,210
just in case he ever slipped.
1627
01:21:54,410 --> 01:21:58,180
♪ ("ALABAMA PINES"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1628
01:21:58,380 --> 01:22:02,220
♪ Well, I moved into this room
If you could call it that ♪
1629
01:22:02,420 --> 01:22:03,290
♪ A week ago ♪
1630
01:22:03,490 --> 01:22:06,460
♪ I never do
What I'm supposed to do ♪
1631
01:22:06,660 --> 01:22:10,530
♪ Hardly even know
My name anymore ♪
1632
01:22:10,730 --> 01:22:15,370
♪ When no one calls it out
It kind of vanishes away ♪
1633
01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:20,240
♪ And I can't get
To sleep at night ♪
1634
01:22:20,440 --> 01:22:22,810
♪ The parking lot's
So loud and bright ♪
1635
01:22:23,010 --> 01:22:26,040
♪ The AC hasn't worked
In 20 years ♪
1636
01:22:26,250 --> 01:22:30,050
♪ Probably never made
A single person cold ♪
1637
01:22:30,250 --> 01:22:32,180
♪ But I can't say
The same for me ♪
1638
01:22:32,380 --> 01:22:35,980
♪ I've done it many times ♪
1639
01:22:36,180 --> 01:22:43,230
♪ Somebody take me home
Through those Alabama pines ♪
1640
01:22:44,830 --> 01:22:47,830
They had a bunch of moonshine
from Fredericksburg.
1641
01:22:48,030 --> 01:22:49,770
The moonshine capital
of the world.
1642
01:22:49,970 --> 01:22:51,100
The place where
they've always made
1643
01:22:51,300 --> 01:22:52,970
the best moonshine.
So I drank a ton of that.
1644
01:22:53,170 --> 01:22:56,140
- (AUDIENCE CHEERING)
- JASON: And I think
I took some MDMA at some point.
1645
01:22:56,340 --> 01:22:58,080
And tried to get a tattoo,
1646
01:22:58,280 --> 01:22:59,710
and they wouldn't give me
a tattoo
1647
01:22:59,910 --> 01:23:04,380
'cause I was too fucked up.
Everybody was pissed at me
1648
01:23:04,580 --> 01:23:07,180
'cause I had gotten so drunk
and made such an ass of myself.
1649
01:23:07,390 --> 01:23:09,290
- (CHUCKLES)
- MAN: Dude, you're wasted.
1650
01:23:09,490 --> 01:23:11,920
(EXHALES DEEPLY)
Man, this is a party.
1651
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:12,990
TRACI: It was the first time
1652
01:23:13,190 --> 01:23:14,160
I'd ever heard him
drunk on stage.
1653
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:20,000
Hey, Derry deBorja, everybody!
Yeah! Whoo! Duh!
1654
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:21,400
- MAN: Play a song!
- TRACI: And then, I guess
1655
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,870
it was really after the show
that things got really,
1656
01:23:24,070 --> 01:23:25,040
really ugly.
1657
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,140
JASON: Amanda and I
got into an argument,
1658
01:23:27,340 --> 01:23:31,510
and, you know, I think
I got kind of scary to her.
1659
01:23:31,710 --> 01:23:32,510
That was sort of a, like,
1660
01:23:32,710 --> 01:23:35,750
kind of not the best night
for him. So...
1661
01:23:35,950 --> 01:23:38,920
JASON: I don't think
she was going to stay with me
1662
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:40,990
at that point. I think
she was like, "Okay,
1663
01:23:41,190 --> 01:23:42,490
I want you to get sober.
I'll help you.
1664
01:23:42,690 --> 01:23:45,220
I'll be your friend.
But I don't think
1665
01:23:45,420 --> 01:23:48,890
I can be in a relationship
with you, you know?"
1666
01:23:49,090 --> 01:23:51,130
So I thought my relationship
was done.
1667
01:23:51,330 --> 01:23:54,400
So when I was in rehab,
I just wrote letters to her,
1668
01:23:54,970 --> 01:23:55,930
um,
1669
01:23:56,140 --> 01:23:59,240
the whole time, and it worked.
I can write a letter.
1670
01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:01,610
♪ ("COVER ME UP" BY JASON ISBELL
PLAYING) ♪
1671
01:24:01,810 --> 01:24:06,640
♪ A heart on the run
Keeps a hand on a gun ♪
1672
01:24:06,850 --> 01:24:09,220
♪ It can't trust anyone ♪
1673
01:24:12,820 --> 01:24:17,690
♪ I was so sure
What I needed was more ♪
1674
01:24:17,890 --> 01:24:20,690
♪ Tried to shoot out the sun ♪
1675
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:28,800
♪ The days when we raged
We flew off the page ♪
1676
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,610
♪ Such damage was done ♪
1677
01:24:34,710 --> 01:24:39,210
♪ But I made it through
'Cause somebody knew ♪
1678
01:24:39,410 --> 01:24:43,350
♪ I was meant for someone... ♪
1679
01:24:43,550 --> 01:24:45,950
JASON: That was fucked up
in a lot of different ways,
1680
01:24:46,150 --> 01:24:47,950
but I was lucky enough
to realize
1681
01:24:48,150 --> 01:24:51,490
that if I can just
quit drinking,
1682
01:24:51,690 --> 01:24:54,530
then I might have everything
I ever wanted.
1683
01:24:55,830 --> 01:24:57,460
AMANDA: It's not hard
to commit to somebody,
1684
01:24:57,660 --> 01:24:58,530
I don't think.
1685
01:24:58,730 --> 01:25:02,570
I mean... if you're in love
with him.
1686
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,040
He proposed, and I said yes.
1687
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:09,040
But I wanted him to be sober
at least a year
1688
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:10,340
before I continued on.
1689
01:25:10,540 --> 01:25:12,780
And it's no guarantee. Like,
I can trust him,
1690
01:25:12,980 --> 01:25:16,750
but I can't trust
the addiction at all, you know?
1691
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:25,120
♪ Cover me up
And know you're enough ♪
1692
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,690
♪ To use me for good... ♪
1693
01:25:31,330 --> 01:25:33,260
There's a couple of parts
in "Cover Me Up"
1694
01:25:33,470 --> 01:25:36,600
I still don't like to hear,
but I listen to it anyway.
1695
01:25:38,470 --> 01:25:41,910
Now he knows that I liked him
even at his worst.(CHUCKLING)
1696
01:25:42,110 --> 01:25:47,750
♪ Put your faith to the test
When I tore off your dress ♪
1697
01:25:47,950 --> 01:25:51,290
♪ In Richmond on high ♪
1698
01:25:53,820 --> 01:25:56,150
♪ But I sobered up ♪
1699
01:25:56,360 --> 01:26:02,390
♪ I swore off that stuff
Forever this time... ♪
1700
01:26:02,590 --> 01:26:07,470
JASON: We had a moment recently
where we came to the conclusion,
1701
01:26:07,670 --> 01:26:10,400
through having a couple
of really hard conversations,
1702
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,900
that part of our problems
still stem
1703
01:26:13,110 --> 01:26:16,810
from unresolved issues
from when we first got together.
1704
01:26:17,010 --> 01:26:20,210
And things that happened
when I was still drinking.
1705
01:26:20,410 --> 01:26:23,650
I didn't understand
that all those years ago,
1706
01:26:23,850 --> 01:26:26,150
there were times
when she felt trapped
1707
01:26:26,350 --> 01:26:28,490
and she felt in danger.
1708
01:26:28,690 --> 01:26:32,190
♪ So, girl
Hang your dress up to dry ♪
1709
01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:35,460
♪ We ain't leaving
This room... ♪
1710
01:26:35,660 --> 01:26:37,130
JASON:
I remember my perspective.
1711
01:26:37,330 --> 01:26:39,400
I knew that I wasn't gonna
hurt anybody.
1712
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,300
But my perspective
wasn't the only one.
1713
01:26:42,940 --> 01:26:44,230
In the last few months,
1714
01:26:44,440 --> 01:26:45,440
I've been doing
a lot of thinking
1715
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:46,970
about what did
the room look like
1716
01:26:47,170 --> 01:26:48,410
from the other corners,
you know?
1717
01:26:48,610 --> 01:26:50,680
What did it look like
from the people
1718
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:51,940
who were afraid of me
1719
01:26:52,140 --> 01:26:54,880
and didn't know
that ultimately,
1720
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:57,650
uh, it was all gonna be okay?
1721
01:27:00,950 --> 01:27:03,250
♪ Cover me up ♪
1722
01:27:03,460 --> 01:27:08,600
♪ And know you're enough
To use me for good... ♪
1723
01:27:10,660 --> 01:27:14,730
JASON: I had the realization
of what I had put on her.
1724
01:27:14,930 --> 01:27:17,700
You know, she was a catalyst
for me getting sober
1725
01:27:17,900 --> 01:27:19,200
and cleaning my life up.
1726
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,310
I had taken all of this burden
of me
1727
01:27:22,510 --> 01:27:24,510
becoming what I am now
1728
01:27:24,710 --> 01:27:26,640
and I had put it
on her shoulders.
1729
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:30,620
And then, what started off
as a little tiny relationship
1730
01:27:30,820 --> 01:27:33,120
turned into the record
Southeastern,
1731
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,420
and it was not
just ours anymore.
1732
01:27:36,620 --> 01:27:39,690
♪ Girl, leave your boots
By the bed ♪
1733
01:27:39,890 --> 01:27:43,660
♪ We ain't leaving
This room... ♪
1734
01:27:43,860 --> 01:27:45,600
JASON: There were people
hearing these songs,
1735
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:47,530
and when they would hear
"Cover Me Up,"
1736
01:27:47,730 --> 01:27:49,330
she would go back
to the place
1737
01:27:49,530 --> 01:27:51,170
where she was afraid of me.
1738
01:27:51,370 --> 01:27:53,400
And nobody
would understand that.
1739
01:27:53,610 --> 01:27:54,870
And then the part
that hurt her the worst
1740
01:27:55,070 --> 01:27:57,770
is that I didn't understand it
because I wasn't willing
1741
01:27:57,980 --> 01:28:00,380
to go back and actually look
at what really happened.
1742
01:28:00,580 --> 01:28:02,080
It's a lot to feel like
you're the only person
1743
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,380
- in the world that...
- That knows...
1744
01:28:04,580 --> 01:28:06,180
- Yeah.
- ...what really happened.
1745
01:28:06,380 --> 01:28:08,720
And I should've known
the whole time.
1746
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:11,290
♪ So cover me up ♪
1747
01:28:11,490 --> 01:28:16,930
♪ And know you're enough
To use me for good ♪
1748
01:28:20,330 --> 01:28:22,570
♪ Cover me up ♪
1749
01:28:22,770 --> 01:28:28,340
♪ And know you're enough
To use me for good ♪
1750
01:28:29,940 --> 01:28:31,110
♪ (SONG FADES) ♪
1751
01:28:31,310 --> 01:28:35,580
DERRY: When Jason went sober,
he came out of that experience,
1752
01:28:35,780 --> 01:28:42,710
I think, a more caring, kinder,
more empathetic individual.
1753
01:28:43,150 --> 01:28:44,920
JASON: I fought
against my own ability
1754
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,430
to get better.
And when I stopped doing that,
1755
01:28:48,630 --> 01:28:50,590
all of a sudden, I was like,
"Okay, you're not so bad.
1756
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:52,560
You're kind of an asshole,
but we'll figure that out."
1757
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,700
And then we sat there together,
me and myself,
1758
01:28:55,900 --> 01:28:59,700
and wrote an album
that changed my life.
1759
01:28:59,900 --> 01:29:05,810
♪ ("MAYBE IT'S TIME"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1760
01:29:16,020 --> 01:29:19,860
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die ♪
1761
01:29:22,490 --> 01:29:26,000
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die ♪
1762
01:29:28,630 --> 01:29:31,200
♪ It takes a lot
To change a man ♪
1763
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,570
♪ Hell, it takes a lot to try ♪
1764
01:29:34,770 --> 01:29:38,480
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die ♪
1765
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,910
♪ Nobody knows
What waits for the dead... ♪
1766
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,620
JASON: This pandemic has been
a challenge for somebody
1767
01:29:47,820 --> 01:29:49,990
who's used to being in control.
1768
01:29:50,190 --> 01:29:52,920
It's really saved my ass
to be able to sit down
1769
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,530
and play the guitar for hours.
1770
01:29:55,730 --> 01:29:57,390
I've kind of reverted back
to when I was
1771
01:29:57,590 --> 01:30:01,070
an unhip high schooler,
and I just spent all my time
1772
01:30:01,270 --> 01:30:03,860
in my room playing guitar
because that's the only thing
1773
01:30:04,060 --> 01:30:05,240
that really made me happy.
1774
01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:08,140
♪ And I'm glad
I can't go back ♪
1775
01:30:08,340 --> 01:30:10,180
♪ To where I came from ♪
1776
01:30:11,940 --> 01:30:16,010
♪ I'm glad those days
Are gone, gone for good... ♪
1777
01:30:16,210 --> 01:30:17,450
JASON: Thank you.
1778
01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:21,750
♪ But if I could take spirits
From my past ♪
1779
01:30:21,950 --> 01:30:25,590
♪ And bring them here
You know I would ♪
1780
01:30:26,990 --> 01:30:28,800
♪ You know I would ♪
1781
01:30:30,730 --> 01:30:34,600
♪ But nobody speaks
To God these days ♪
1782
01:30:37,140 --> 01:30:39,270
♪ Nobody speaks
To God these days... ♪
1783
01:30:39,470 --> 01:30:43,270
JASON: The chickens have lain
their eggs beneath the coop.
1784
01:30:43,470 --> 01:30:46,080
♪ I'd like to think
He's looking down ♪
1785
01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,050
♪ And laughing at our ways ♪
1786
01:30:49,250 --> 01:30:53,120
♪ But nobody speaks
To God these days... ♪
1787
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,120
Mommy, I got you a present.
1788
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:59,060
♪ And when I was a child
They tried to fool me... ♪
1789
01:30:59,260 --> 01:31:00,460
Thank you.
1790
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,030
♪ Said the worldly man
Was doomed ♪
1791
01:31:04,230 --> 01:31:05,660
♪ And hell was real... ♪
1792
01:31:05,870 --> 01:31:08,230
Some days
I found beautiful dead moths.
1793
01:31:08,430 --> 01:31:10,030
♪ Well, I've seen hell
In Reno ♪
1794
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:15,840
♪ And this world's just
One big old Catherine wheel ♪
1795
01:31:16,810 --> 01:31:18,680
♪ Spinning still... ♪
1796
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:20,510
AMANDA: He's made a picnic.
1797
01:31:20,710 --> 01:31:24,480
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die ♪
1798
01:31:27,050 --> 01:31:30,390
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die... ♪
1799
01:31:30,590 --> 01:31:33,420
Oh, some garden gloves.
1800
01:31:33,620 --> 01:31:35,890
♪ It takes a lot
To change your plans ♪
1801
01:31:36,090 --> 01:31:39,460
♪ And a train
To change your mind ♪
1802
01:31:39,660 --> 01:31:43,070
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die... ♪
1803
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:45,500
JASON:
Look at that stinky bastard.
1804
01:31:45,700 --> 01:31:47,670
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die... ♪
1805
01:31:47,870 --> 01:31:50,810
- (AMANDA CHUCKLES)
- JASON: Quarantine, day 194.
1806
01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:55,720
♪ Maybe it's time
To let the old ways die ♪
1807
01:31:56,450 --> 01:31:58,150
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
1808
01:31:58,350 --> 01:31:59,920
MERCY: I smell alcohol.
1809
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,220
AMANDA: That's because
we just put some in your ears.
1810
01:32:02,420 --> 01:32:04,390
And I can smell with my ears?
1811
01:32:04,590 --> 01:32:05,820
- (JASON CHUCKLES)
- You can use your ears
1812
01:32:06,020 --> 01:32:07,990
- to help you smell?
- I think your ears...
1813
01:32:08,190 --> 01:32:10,130
JASON: (CHUCKLES)
That's my daughter.
1814
01:32:10,330 --> 01:32:12,700
Don't put your fingers
in your ears. Don't do that.
1815
01:32:12,900 --> 01:32:14,970
I like to smell the alcohol.
1816
01:32:15,170 --> 01:32:16,900
JASON: (CHUCKLES)
That's my child, there.
1817
01:32:17,100 --> 01:32:19,200
"Well, do you love me
the most with my big,
1818
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,170
big eyes that will watch you
grow wise, wise, wise?"
1819
01:32:22,370 --> 01:32:24,040
- There's three--
- "It's me, Ollie.
1820
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:25,510
Do you love me the most?"
1821
01:32:25,710 --> 01:32:27,810
- Do you?
- There's--
1822
01:32:28,010 --> 01:32:30,110
- There's three--
- Do you?
Do you love me the most?
1823
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:31,520
- Do you?
- (CHUCKLES) Stop--
1824
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:36,790
- Hoo. Hoo.
- Stop interrupting me.
1825
01:32:36,990 --> 01:32:38,890
- What?
- Stop interrupting me.
1826
01:32:39,090 --> 01:32:40,060
- Who?
- You.
1827
01:32:40,260 --> 01:32:41,330
- Who-oo?
- You.
1828
01:32:41,530 --> 01:32:42,530
- Who-oo?
- You.
1829
01:32:42,730 --> 01:32:44,230
- Who-oo?
- You.
1830
01:32:44,430 --> 01:32:45,300
- Who-oo?
- You.
1831
01:32:45,500 --> 01:32:47,030
JASON: Hey, Mercy, knock, knock?
1832
01:32:47,230 --> 01:32:49,030
- Who's there?
- JASON: Interrupting mom.
1833
01:32:49,230 --> 01:32:50,570
- Interrupting mom--
- (SHAKILY) Hello!
1834
01:32:50,770 --> 01:32:54,270
- (JASON CHUCKLES)
- (BOTH LAUGH)
1835
01:32:54,470 --> 01:32:57,710
In quarantine times,
there are breakthrough couples
1836
01:32:57,910 --> 01:32:59,980
and breakup couples,
I've decided.
1837
01:33:00,180 --> 01:33:03,850
(CHUCKLES) A lot of people
we know are getting divorced.
1838
01:33:04,050 --> 01:33:09,310
And I understand that totally.
But I think for me and Amanda,
1839
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:11,620
I think
we're having breakthroughs.
1840
01:33:11,820 --> 01:33:13,960
I feel like we're getting
to know each other better,
1841
01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:18,400
I think. And, like, today,
everything's great, you know?
1842
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:22,800
Yesterday, everything was great.
We'll see what happens tomorrow.
1843
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:24,200
♪ ("RIVER" BY JASON ISBELL
PLAYING) ♪
1844
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:28,810
♪ The river is my savior
'Cause she used to be a cloud ♪
1845
01:33:29,010 --> 01:33:34,010
♪ She's happy just to lay there
When she used to be so proud ♪
1846
01:33:34,210 --> 01:33:38,980
♪ And even when she dries up
A thousand years from now ♪
1847
01:33:39,180 --> 01:33:44,690
♪ I'll lay myself beside her
And call her name out loud... ♪
1848
01:33:46,330 --> 01:33:50,230
JASON: So I see COVID-19
as something that is forcing me
1849
01:33:50,430 --> 01:33:52,360
to adapt and to grow.
1850
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,830
I'm bound and determined
to make a positive out of this.
1851
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:57,200
And the ultimate positive
1852
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,870
is to let it connect me
with other people more.
1853
01:34:00,070 --> 01:34:04,740
♪ But now I'm tired
And a little bit confused ♪
1854
01:34:04,940 --> 01:34:10,080
♪ Regarding what I meant to do
And what I did... ♪
1855
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,350
CHAD: To be back in the room
with everybody else
1856
01:34:12,550 --> 01:34:15,590
will make my heart explode.
So I know I'll be in tears.
1857
01:34:15,790 --> 01:34:17,760
I-- I feel like
we will all be in tears
1858
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:21,360
'cause you don't feel whole
right now.
1859
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:23,830
JIMBO: I'd be happy
just to play on the back porch
1860
01:34:24,030 --> 01:34:25,900
for the birds if it was me
1861
01:34:26,100 --> 01:34:27,900
and my whole band
playing together
1862
01:34:28,100 --> 01:34:29,940
at the same time.
I'd be thrilled.
1863
01:34:32,970 --> 01:34:37,770
♪ The river is my savior
She's running to the sea ♪
1864
01:34:37,970 --> 01:34:42,780
♪ And to reach her destination
Is to simply cease to be ♪
1865
01:34:42,980 --> 01:34:44,920
♪ And running
'Til you're nothing ♪
1866
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:47,810
♪ Sounds a lot like being free ♪
1867
01:34:48,010 --> 01:34:53,760
♪ So I'll lay myself inside her
And I'll let her carry me... ♪
1868
01:34:58,230 --> 01:35:01,500
I mean, there's this moment
right before we go on stage
1869
01:35:01,700 --> 01:35:03,670
where we're all gathered
in the wing,
1870
01:35:03,870 --> 01:35:05,570
Jason gives a thumbs up
to everybody
1871
01:35:05,770 --> 01:35:08,010
with a raised eyebrow
to make sure,
1872
01:35:08,210 --> 01:35:10,310
you know, "Everybody good?
Everybody good?"
1873
01:35:10,510 --> 01:35:13,310
And I miss that.
1874
01:35:13,510 --> 01:35:14,850
I can't wait to do that again.
1875
01:35:15,050 --> 01:35:17,220
I can't wait
to be in that huddle.
1876
01:35:17,420 --> 01:35:18,450
JASON: See y'all tomorrow.
1877
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,190
- (LIGHT SWITCH FLICKING)
- ♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
1878
01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:25,860
There's only one story.
1879
01:35:26,060 --> 01:35:28,060
They say three in your
creative writing classes.
1880
01:35:28,260 --> 01:35:30,420
But there's only one really,
and that's,
1881
01:35:30,620 --> 01:35:32,830
"Will you listen
to what my life is like?
1882
01:35:33,030 --> 01:35:35,230
You know? And let's compare."
1883
01:35:35,430 --> 01:35:39,470
♪ ("IF WE WERE VAMPIRES"
BY JASON ISBELL PLAYING) ♪
1884
01:35:54,490 --> 01:35:59,580
♪ It's not the long flowing
Dress that you're in ♪
1885
01:35:59,790 --> 01:36:04,430
♪ Or the light coming
Off of your skin ♪
1886
01:36:04,630 --> 01:36:09,800
♪ The fragile heart
You protected for so long ♪
1887
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:14,340
♪ Or the mercy in your sense
Of right and wrong ♪
1888
01:36:14,540 --> 01:36:19,310
♪ It's not your hands
Searching slow in the dark ♪
1889
01:36:19,510 --> 01:36:24,150
♪ Or your nails
Leaving love's watermark ♪
1890
01:36:24,350 --> 01:36:29,390
♪ It's not the way
You talk me off the roof ♪
1891
01:36:29,590 --> 01:36:34,760
♪ Your questions
Like directions to the truth ♪
1892
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:38,530
♪ It's knowing
That this can't go on forever ♪
1893
01:36:39,900 --> 01:36:41,300
♪ Likely one of us ♪
1894
01:36:41,500 --> 01:36:44,800
♪ Will have
To spend some days alone ♪
1895
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:48,210
♪ Maybe we'll get
Forty years together ♪
1896
01:36:48,410 --> 01:36:54,080
♪ But one day I'll be gone
Or one day you'll be gone ♪
1897
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:58,950
♪ If we were vampires
And death was a joke ♪
1898
01:36:59,150 --> 01:37:04,420
♪ We'd go out
On the sidewalk and smoke ♪
1899
01:37:04,620 --> 01:37:09,290
♪ And laugh at all the lovers
And their plans ♪
1900
01:37:09,490 --> 01:37:13,970
♪ I wouldn't feel the need
To hold your hand ♪
1901
01:37:14,170 --> 01:37:18,970
♪ Maybe time running out
Is a gift ♪
1902
01:37:19,170 --> 01:37:24,380
♪ I'll work hard
'Til the end of my shift ♪
1903
01:37:24,580 --> 01:37:29,480
♪ And give you
Every second I can find ♪
1904
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:34,420
♪ And hope it isn't me
Who's left behind ♪
1905
01:37:34,620 --> 01:37:38,360
♪ It's knowing
That this can't go on forever ♪
1906
01:37:39,830 --> 01:37:41,230
♪ Likely one of us ♪
1907
01:37:41,430 --> 01:37:44,760
♪ Will have to spend
Some days alone ♪
1908
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:48,170
♪ Maybe we'll get
Forty years together ♪
1909
01:37:48,370 --> 01:37:53,910
♪ But one day I'll be gone
One day you'll be gone ♪
1910
01:38:01,180 --> 01:38:03,220
♪ (SONG CONCLUDES) ♪
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