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Return on invested capital, or ROIC, is a real key thing for investors, particularly value investors.
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It's a great way to measure companies.
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Charlie Munger, who is a partner and associate with Warren Buffett, famous value investor You know,
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he really relies on this primarily as his main way of looking at things.
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And he a great quote around that, and we'll look at how to calculate and a little bit more here in
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a second.
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But you know, he said that it's obvious that if a company generates high returns on capital Kabul being
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like cash or investments and reinvest at high returns, it will do well right.
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If we were able to generate a lot of money and then we invest that money back in the company or reinvest
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in the company, and we keep generating high returns on that and company is going to do well.
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And then he adds on this, but this one sell books, so there's lots of twaddle and fuzzy concepts that
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have been introduced that don't add much to hopefully a lot of things going on.
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Of course, there's not a bunch of twaddle, but our fuzzy concept.
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But but this is where he really relies on this ROIC.
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And the concept behind it is if I take money that I've made as a company and think of myself as a business
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owner, I've made money.
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I not take that money and then we invest that money in my company.
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Things like research and development or expansion or new factories or employees or whatever.
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I'm reinvesting that money and my return on that money is even bigger and keeps growing over time by
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generating more profits, then that's going to be I'm going to do well as a company, and that's a very
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obvious kind of thing.
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And we can measure that.
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And we actually have some formulas we'll look at here at the end of this lesson about how how to actually
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measure that.
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So look, let's look at example.
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So going back in time, you know, Apple made a lot of money on the iPod.
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You remember, the iPod was ten thousand songs in your pocket was the marketing or 50000?
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I can remember the number, but it was really revolutionary.
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But it did have a lifecycle like a lot of technology types and things, but they invested, you know,
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the money they made in the iPod into more research and developed and developed other very profitable
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products such as the iPhone and iPad, which were even more profitable and continue to be and are extremely
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successful.
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So Apple, you'd say, would have a great ROIC return on invested capital because they made a lot of
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money on the iPod reinvest that, particularly in research and development around these iPhones and
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iPod, which were at some point the gleam in some of his eye and later and now become something you
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and I, you know, really have a hard time living without, which would be like a smartphone, and they're
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certainly competitors have grown up around that.
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But that's a great return on invested capital for Apple.
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So we think about what is our oath, I see and what we're trying to measure here of the concept of reinvesting
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that capital is it's kind of a it's a it's a profitability and performance ratio.
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It's a measure to say, you know, it's a ratio that we can then compare companies with who's doing
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a better job of reinvesting in capital.
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Just like a price to earnings ratios and peg ratios, this ROIC is a ratio to compare performance.
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How is the management team reinvesting it?
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How well are they doing reinvesting their profits and register the percentage return on investment in
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the company by the company itself?
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So this is not stockholders, this is the company and reinvesting its profits, they can reinvest those
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profits.
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They could pay the profits out of the dividend.
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They could, you know, use profits to reduce their debt, or they can reinvest in things like research
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and development the other way they're looking at ways.
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What is the percentage return for that money they made and the reinvestment?
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And it's really also measures how efficiently is the company using investment in it to generate income?
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So think of, as you know, we're investors, you know, so we're providing them with investment income,
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you know, as far as the original stock offerings and stuff.
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And but from their profits, how efficiently are using that money and how much return are they generate?
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How profitable are they doing?
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So that's kind of what is ROIC to think of it as a ratio that's looking at efficiency, profitability
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and how well they're using the money that they generate.
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So how do you calculate this, you know, and you can know when you look up stocks, there's ways file
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on Morningstar Yahoo, you can find ROIC or return on investment capital.
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You can compare against other companies with an industry and even a company.
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Let's say that's really gone down, and a stock price might be still doing a great job as far as investing,
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and that might be a company ready to rebound because they're got a good return on invested capital.
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So how the ratio is really calculated, you can look at and basically look at net income, the money
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coming in, you know, divide by what they have for capital.
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Which capital is, you know, is debt and equity, right?
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That's how you capitalize.
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The business that you've taken on money in equity is like stockholder equity, your money that's been
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invested in the company, that's there and they're using that net income to add to their capital, basically.
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And how are they using that?
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And truly, the way to calculate that, too, is you can take net income less the dividends, because
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remember, dividends are a payout back out to stockholders.
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So you know that net income is reduced by the amount of dividend payout in income as the money I've
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made.
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But I'm going to take a portion of it and give it to our stockholders, thanking them for being a stockholder.
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Here you go.
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Here's some money for you, usually on a quarterly basis.
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And now we're going to use that, that that number as far as net income divided by our debt versus our
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existing debt and equity.
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As one way to do this, actually.
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You know, a couple of different ways to do it.
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One is using, you know, a no pad, which was the return on invested capital using net operating profit
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after tax or no pad and divided by invested capital or equity.
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How much has been invested here?
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So really looking at profits, but also factoring out taxes so that we're reducing as it is a different
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number looking at after taxes?
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So that's another way to calculate or kind of get into the same thing, same idea.
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Just another way, a different way to calculate it.
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And then here is you in a different way to look at it.
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We're looking at ROIC looking at that operating income, how much we're generating, you know, with
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the factor one minus the tax rate.
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Basically, you're trying to factor out, you know, having a factor for tax rate in there and you're
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looking at the book value of with the capital, what is the book value of the company and what's it
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worth, you know, from an investor capital standpoint and book value consideration, the argument around
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this is that we'll probably was better than market value was incorporating future growth consideration
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with markets being generally being more forward looking.
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So the book value, you're looking at what is really our state today, we're actually as investors,
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we want to look at things like market value, what is the future earnings and growth?
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We want to look at that.
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But if we're evaluating the existing management team when they're existing, what they're doing right
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now with invested capital, you know, how they're investing, that operating income, for example,
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you know, comparing to book value is a better measure, a more fair, more conservative measure, actually
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than looking at market value.
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So there you have, you know, different ways of calculating return on invested capital.
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But if you go back to that quote there again from, you know, Charlie Munger and the idea is the big
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idea and how you Kalka, you're going to get kind of the same area the same way as how is the management
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team doing, investing the money that they've made from their profits.
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And then we can compare that.
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So companies have good ROIC, you'll have better future prospects than maybe those who didn't.
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Who's the folks who are taking their EIPA type product, investing that to come up with the new iPhone,
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for example?
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