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(soft mysterious music)
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- [Mahmoud] It's
been a hundred years
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since the discovery of
King Tutankhamun's tomb,
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the boy king who
lived and died at one
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of the most revolutionary times
in Ancient Egyptian history.
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- King Tutankhamun ruled
Egypt from 1332 to 1323 BC.
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I'm Dr. Yasmin El Shazly
I'm an Egyptologist.
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- [Mahmoud] I'm Mahmoud Rashad.
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I'm a filmmaker and an
independent Egyptologist.
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- As an Egyptian Egyptologist,
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it is very important for
me to give Tutankhamun
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back his voice by exploring
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all the different
theories around him.
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- [Egyptologist] The
whole Armana period
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is attracting people because
it is the period of Akhenaten.
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He said, There is
no God but this God.
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- [Egyptologist] It's
a great revolution.
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He must have been extremely
courageous to do this.
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- You can't change
people's beliefs...
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- And faith overnight.
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- Overnight.
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Rashad and I are on
a journey to find out
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who the boy behind the mask was.
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Who were his allies and
who were his enemies?
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- Was he murdered?
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Did he die in an accident?
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So many unanswered questions.
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- I really believe Nefertiti,
she could be his enemy.
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- [Mahmoud] We learned
about his family
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in the first part
of our journey,
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now we're going to find out more
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about how and why
he died so young.
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- All theories before that
Tutankhamun was murdered,
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it's an accident happened to
him two days before he died.
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- Tutankhamun had many
people advising him.
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We don't really know
the whole court,
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but we all do know two
names, Ay and Horemheb.
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- Some people look
at Ay as a villain,
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but I'm not sure of that.
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- We are bringing back
the face of Tutankhamun
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and making a facial
reconstruction
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based on scientific measures.
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- I really want King
Tut to come to life
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and create the most
definitive look
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of one of the most famous
kings of all time. (exhales)
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- I like to look at the
eyes of the golden mask
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and this mask reflects for
me the drama of his life.
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At the same time, his yearning
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with this young
face for eternity.
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- Are you ready?
- Okay. Yes.
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- Ready?
- Yes!
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(dramatic music)
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Oh my God.
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(dramatic music continues)
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Tutankhamun:
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Allies & Enemies
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was made possible in part by
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contributions to
your PBS station
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from viewers like you.
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Thank you.
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(waves lapping)
(soft ominous music)
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- [Mahmoud] Have you
been here before?
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- Never.
- Never?
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- Never.
- This is my second time here.
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This is Carter's house.
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This is where he lived
while he was excavating
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for King Tut's tomb.
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Can you just imagine
the conversations
that were happening
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in this house while they
were searching for him?
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- [Yasmin] Howard Carter
was a British Egyptologist
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who discovered King
Tutankhamun's tomb
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in the Valley of the Kings
on the West Bank of the Nile.
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His dig was financed
by Lord Carnarvon
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and had been going on
for almost five years.
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- The bit that I like
the most about his story
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is his obsession with King Tut.
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I have so much respect for him.
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He loved Tutankhamun,
he wanted to find him,
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and he showed him the
respect he deserved.
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In 1922, Lord Carnarvon wanted
to cancel the excavations,
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and then Howard Carter begged
him for one last season,
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and that's when
they found the tomb.
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- Exactly.
- They found
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these little steps and just
think about that minute
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when he dug that
hole in the wall
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and Lord Carnarvon asked
him, "What can you see?"
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and he said-
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- [Both] Wonderful things.
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(tense music)
(engine whirring)
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- I'm in the city of
Abydos in Southern Egypt
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meeting Dr. Sameh
Iskander at his dig site,
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which is dedicated
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to the Ancient Egyptian god
of the underworld, Osiris.
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They found evidence here that
within a couple of generations
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after Tutankhamun's death,
all the gods were back,
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and Akhenaten's religious
revolution was overturned.
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(both speaking in
foreign language)
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- I'm Sameh Iskander,
Egyptologist,
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affiliate research associate
at New York University,
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currently working on the
temple of Ramses II in Abydos.
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Abydos is the domain
of the God Osiris.
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- Yes.
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- Probably the most popular
god in Ancient Egypt.
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The god of the afterlife.
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'Cause Abydos was very
important site in Ancient Egypt
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and still is a very
important site in Egypt now.
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It was a site of pilgrimage.
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Every Ancient Egyptian
person dreamed
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that he would be able
to come to the site
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and pay his or her
respect to Osiris.
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100 years after the discovery
of the tomb of Tutankhamun,
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people believe this is
a chance for Tutankhamun
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to give his story, but does it?
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His tomb or his money or
the objects in his tomb
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are giving us what
he really thought,
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what he really wanted to say,
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or is it us that actually
imposing it on him?
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Here, I wanna show you here
a very, very important scene
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right here on this wall that
gives an idea of, you know,
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the energy in the temple
and what was happening.
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- [Yasmin] It does. It
looks impressive so far.
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- It is an impressive
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and it's a sort of a
unique scene in Abydos.
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Here is the symbol of Osiris
being carried by 24 priests
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after a procession outside
for a certain feast,
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and supposedly the head
of Osiris is buried there.
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- [Yasmin] Which is
why Abydos is so sacred
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because they believe
the head of Osiris
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is buried there.
- Is buried here.
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- Yeah.
- Yes.
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So we are here in the sort of
the sacred part of the temple.
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But there's a lot was
happening outside.
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Let's go and see.
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I'll show you.
- Yes.
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(somber music)
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- [Sameh] This is where
the action takes place,
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the activities of the temple
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of the cult.
- Oh my God.
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This is unbelievable.
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- [Sameh] We found over
2,000 mummies of rams.
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- [Yasmin] Wow,
that's incredible.
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- [Sameh] We keep
finding new ones.
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- [Yasmin] The rams were part
of ritual animal sacrifice
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to the Ancient Egyptian gods.
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Under Tutankhamun's father,
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this would not
have been allowed.
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This is more proof the old
religion was back in full force.
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- The idea of
Akhenaten is long gone,
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it's not there anymore.
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As a matter of fact, there's
another temple of Ramses
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in here about maybe
a kilometer or less,
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and there are several
fragments from Amarna,
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that they're found as part of
the foundation, as fillers.
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And this helps your research.
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- Definitely.
- Just in a graphic way.
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- Yes.
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- This piece was divine
and now it's just,
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it's the foundation.
- Hidden.
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- The filler.
- And useless.
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- Yeah. Yeah.
- Useless.
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- [Sameh] And this
summarizes the restoration
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of the religion from Aten to
Amun that King Tut started.
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But you know, there's more.
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Let's go to the temple
city and I'll show you
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the situation of the religion.
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(gentle music)
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- What Tutankhamun did was
return to the old status quo,
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which means that all the
temples throughout Egypt,
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Amun and otherwise,
were all functioning.
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All of this really brought
back a sense of unity and ease
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for the Egyptians
because it was very weird
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for them probably
after 2,000 years
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to have their whole
world view changed.
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- Before going to
the temple of Seti I,
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Dr. Sameh invited
me for breakfast
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with his Egyptian coworkers.
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(Yasmin speaking in
foreign language)
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(researcher speaking
in foreign language)
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(Sameh speaking in
foreign language)
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(group laughs)
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(Yasmin speaking in
foreign language)
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(foreman speaking
in foreign language)
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(group laughs)
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(Yasmin speaking in
foreign language)
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(foreman speaking
in foreign language)
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(group chuckles)
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- [Yasmin] It's such
a beautiful temple.
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- [Sameh] Oh it's
incredible temple.
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It's very special.
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- [Yasmin] Yes.
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- I find it one of the most
beautiful temples in Egypt.
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This temple was built about
40 years after King Tut.
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This temple is a culmination
of King Tut's attempt
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to restore the religion.
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(gentle music)
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(Yasmin speaking in
foreign language)
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(Sameh speaking in
foreign language)
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- Dr. Sameh, you said that
this is the culmination
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of Tutankhamun's restoration?
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- Yes, when you think about it,
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when King Tut and his
entourage started the process
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of restoration, it took a while.
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- But was it his
decision really?
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How involved was
he in the process?
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- Obviously he was not
involved because he was a kid.
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- Yes.
- He was young.
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- Yes.
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- [Sameh] So, I would say
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this was a movement
by the priesthood.
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(singer vocalizing)
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- In Ancient Egypt, religion
has always been political.
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When the king is a god,
then it is always going
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to have a complete mixture
of sacred and secular.
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And this had been going on in
Egypt since the dawn of time.
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So, what you do with it,
how you manipulate it,
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changes varying on
who the king is,
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what role the
temples are playing,
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and what the general
milieux is at that moment.
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- You know, Seti built
this temple for six gods.
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You see Ibis, Osiris,
Anubis, that over there.
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Tut would have
loved to see this.
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- Yes, all the
gods are all there.
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- All the gods. Everything.
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All the gods are bad.
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This is what he wanted.
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Only 30, 40 years
after his time.
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(mysterious music)
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- Seti I began a new
dynasty, the Nineteenth,
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and would usher in a new
era after the disorder
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of Akhenaten and the end
of the Eighteenth Dynasty.
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(mysterious music continues)
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I just arrived to Abydos to
the temple of King Seti I
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to meet up with Dr. Yasmin.
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In here, we have the first clue
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to the second half
of King Tut's story.
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Throughout our journey,
Yasmin and I have built
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a very intimate relationship
with Tutankhamun.
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Sometimes we feel
sympathetic of a boy
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in the middle of
a power struggle,
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and sometimes we're suspicious
of people around him
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and how his life
was cut so short.
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So, the whole temple really is
one of my favorites in Egypt,
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but this room holds a very
special place in my heart.
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This is the whole of the
ancestors in Seti I's temple.
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And here we see Seti I
with his son, Ramses II,
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and they're reciting
all of the names
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of Egypt's previous kings.
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- [Yasmin] Yes, they're
trying to associate themselves
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with them as their descendants.
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- I can just imagine both of
them here burning incense.
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Ramses has the papyrus
in his hand reading the,
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reciting the invocation in it,
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and then they recite
each and every name
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of each and every king.
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Where is Tut?
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- [Yasmin] Where is Tut
and where is Akhenaten?
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- And where's Nefertiti?
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- Yes.
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- And where's Ay?
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- Exactly.
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- All the heroes of
our story are not here.
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- Yes.
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- They want to pretend
they never existed,
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they were never here,
they never ruled Egypt.
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They are not one of them.
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- Yeah, they were
removed from history.
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It is unfortunate that
Tutankhamun's name
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does not appear
in this king list,
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and the fact that Ay's
name, too, isn't there
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makes us wonder if
Horemheb was responsible
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for these omissions.
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This would make him the
villain of the story,
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even though so
far Ay seems to be
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the apparent
conniving character.
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All these points make
me want to explore
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how Tutankhamun died and what
happens next in this story.
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(traffic whirring)
(horns honking)
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(Yasmin speaking in
foreign language)
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Driving in Cairo
is an adventure.
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You have to have
very good reflexes.
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Anything can happen anytime.
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- I am going to meet Dr. Salima
Ikram who will talk to me
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about Tutankhamun's
death and mummification.
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(gentle music)
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- [Salima] So, Yasmin, I was
going to make some coffee.
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Would you like some?
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- Yes, please.
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- My name is Salima Ikram
and I am an Egyptologist
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at the American
University in Cairo
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where I am a distinguished
university professor.
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- [Yasmin] I've
been moving around.
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I'm talking to different people-
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- Yes.
- About the different theories
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regarding Tutankhamun, and
there seems to have been
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a lot going on in
the background.
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- Oh yeah.
- At his death.
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- [Yasmin] What do you think?
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- I wish I knew.
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Very hard to tell. (chuckles)
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But no, I mean there must
have been such chaos in a way.
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They didn't expect him
to die, one imagines,
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unless he was killed,
and then poof.
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- [Yasmin] Everything's gone.
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- Everything's gone and then
we have Ay and Horemheb.
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- [Yasmin] Yes, because Horemheb
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was supposed to
be his successor.
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- I suppose maybe it was
a gentleman's agreement.
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"Let's put Ay there
for a little bit.
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He's going to die anyway."
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Ay was a relative of
Tutankhamun, much older,
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sort of grandfather, great
grandfather kind of thing,
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while Horemheb was a
military commander.
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Probably they expected
him to have a successor,
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but he didn't.
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That's when it got interesting
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and then you wind up
with Ay and Horemheb
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maybe jockeying for position.
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- What's your theory
about Tutankhamun's reign?
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- Well, I mean, I think that
there's so little evidence
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that we can make
up whatever we want
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about that poor boy's reign.
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Then people always talk about
how he was a sickly creature.
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But I don't think so.
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- [Yasmin] You don't think so?
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- No, I don't.
- Okay, why?
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- So he has all those sticks
in his tomb and everyone says,
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"Oh my God, he couldn't walk."
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But generally you have
sticks in your tomb
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no matter who you are because
it's a mark of office.
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Now, having studied the sticks,
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you look at the base to
see if there's any wear,
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and it's minimal.
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Plus, he also had, in addition
to all the gold stuff,
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he had a suit of armor that
was made out of leather,
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which was a real suit of armor.
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- [Yasmin] So he
probably went to battle.
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- He probably went to battle
because he has all the weapons.
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Why would he have all
that armor in his tomb?
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It doesn't make sense, you
would just have this state-
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- Maybe he wanted to be
resurrected as a warrior.
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- [Salima] Well I
think he wanted-
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- He wanted to go to
battle in the afterlife.
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- Well, I mean a king had to
go to battle in the afterlife.
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- [Yasmin] Yes, of course.
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- That is what they did.
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Milk?
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- [Yasmin] Yes,
please. No sugar.
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- [Salima] Okay. You
may have no sugar.
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I find it's very espresso.
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Darling, that way.
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Come on in and let's
settle down here.
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- About his health, what
do you think of the results
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of, you know, the CT
scans that have been done?
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- People tend to think, oh
it's science, it must be true.
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Whereas scientists also
differ and disagree and argue.
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But I mean right
now, there are ideas
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that the leg was broken
and that caused septicemia,
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which might have been
one of the reasons
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for Tutankhamun's death.
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- [Yasmin] What about the
clubfoot that people talk about?
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- I myself am not a firm
believer in the clubfoot.
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I have looked at his feet.
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So, I think it could
also be a result
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of the way he was mummified.
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People often over or
underestimate things
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because I have very
bad knees and legs
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and I've had, you know,
five different operations
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and I'm still not
properly functional.
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But I still climb up
mountains, go down tomb shafts,
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wiggle into holes, and carry
out my work as an Egyptologist,
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where probably if you looked
at my body you'd think,
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ooh, this person
can't do anything
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because so many bits
have been replaced
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or are broken or are
pinned together tenuously.
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So I think saying
that Tutankhamun
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couldn't do a lot of
things is probably wrong.
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- [Yasmin] You don't see him
as a tragic figure or do you?
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Having your father be
seen as a heretic king
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and be erased from history and-
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- [Salima] Well, I
mean, on one hand-
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- [Yasmin] I know this is
not very Egyptological.
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We're trying to empathize
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with Tutankhamun.
- But no, no,
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I think it is totally
Egyptological.
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Why study the Ancient Egyptians
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if you don't think
of them as people?
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Because why on earth
would I do Egyptology
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if I did not love
and feel passionately
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about the Ancient Egyptians?
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- [Yasmin] All kings started
preparing for their death
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as soon as they
ascended the throne.
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Tutankhamun would not
have been any different.
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How do you think he prepared
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for his death and the afterlife?
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- I think that Tutankhamun did
this in a very literal way.
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- Mm-hmm. Tell me about it.
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- [Yasmin] Because his
mummy is very Osirian
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because it's completely covered
with this black material.
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And that's not how other
kings were mummified.
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His mummification was different.
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- His mummification
was very odd.
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That's the most peculiar
thing about him, I think.
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00:19:38,333 --> 00:19:41,299
- [Yasmin] It was so helpful
to talk with Dr. Salima Ikram
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about the mysteries
surrounding Tutankhamun's
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unusual mummification, and
that Tut's mummy may hold clues
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to the battle for succession
after his untimely death.
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00:19:53,533 --> 00:19:54,665
- [Salima] Let me
take the mug, sweetie.
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- Thank you. Bye-bye.
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- [Salima] Bye, thanks
so much for coming.
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00:19:58,766 --> 00:19:59,966
- [Yasmin] My pleasure.
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00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:06,333
(gentle music)
(traffic whirring)
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00:20:17,666 --> 00:20:22,100
(both speaking in
foreign language)
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- We are here
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at the National Museum
of Egyptian Civilization.
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It opened in April 2021
to host the royal mummies
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of the new kingdom, the family
of Tutankhamun among them.
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My name is Sahar Saleem.
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I'm Professor of Radiology,
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Faculty of Medicine
Cairo University.
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00:20:48,533 --> 00:20:50,365
Let's go and have some coffee
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00:20:50,366 --> 00:20:54,032
because I have some more
CT scan images to show.
422
00:20:54,033 --> 00:20:55,665
- And I still have
so many questions.
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00:20:55,666 --> 00:20:59,165
- Okay, let's go.
- So let's go.
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- [Sahar] I spent a lot
of time with Tutankhamun.
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I took thousands of CT scan.
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This made Tutankhamun
like a family to me.
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00:21:10,066 --> 00:21:11,565
- [Mahmoud] Dr. Sahar,
I think now we need
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to start discussing why did
Tut die and how did he die?
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00:21:15,666 --> 00:21:19,732
- Tutankhamun, there were
a lot of theories, though,
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about the cause of death.
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And in this theory
I will show you,
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there is a small bone fragment.
433
00:21:27,733 --> 00:21:30,265
That is attached to the-
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- To the resin.
- The resin.
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00:21:31,833 --> 00:21:36,099
And this resin that
appeared as if it is a blood
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or dense material in the skull,
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00:21:38,266 --> 00:21:40,932
the theory that
Tutankhamun was murdered-
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- [Mahmoud] Murdered.
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- By a blow at the
back of his head.
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This theory was actually
totally refuted.
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00:21:49,700 --> 00:21:53,865
There is no evidence
of trauma to his skull.
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00:21:53,866 --> 00:21:58,232
All these are related to
either the mummification,
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which is not blood, or-
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- [Mahmoud] The excavation.
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00:22:00,501 --> 00:22:02,499
- The, yes.
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00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:05,232
But when we want to know, okay,
447
00:22:05,233 --> 00:22:07,765
if this is not the cause,
what was the cause?
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00:22:07,766 --> 00:22:13,332
We found the one, the
injury at the knee-
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- The kneecap.
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- You see here, this fracture,
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slipped inside it
a dense material,
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which is the embalming material.
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00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:22,899
- [Mahmoud] Which means
that the fracture was there
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before mummification 'cause
there are no healing signs.
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00:22:24,666 --> 00:22:25,965
- No healing signs.
- Mm.
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- So this must
have been inflicted
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just prior to death before
the body was able to heal.
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This type of fracture could
happen from falling down,
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from example, from the chariots.
460
00:22:42,733 --> 00:22:47,465
We know that Tutankhamun liked
racing as as any teenager.
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00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:48,765
So this bone-
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- [Mahmoud] But it must
have been something
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very intense
happened for the knee
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to be fractured like that.
465
00:22:55,766 --> 00:22:58,732
- Falling down from a
high impact from racing
466
00:22:58,733 --> 00:23:03,532
and from the velocity
of the chariot.
467
00:23:03,533 --> 00:23:07,065
But the point is this is
not the cause of death.
468
00:23:07,066 --> 00:23:09,232
This fracture may
have been complicated,
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for example, by infection.
470
00:23:10,866 --> 00:23:12,399
- Yeah.
471
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,965
- The DNA showed that a
form of malaria was found
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00:23:14,966 --> 00:23:17,465
inside the body of
Tutankhamun that means
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00:23:17,466 --> 00:23:19,832
that he was infected
with malaria.
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00:23:19,833 --> 00:23:22,732
His cause of death, although
it's not very much clear,
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00:23:22,733 --> 00:23:26,365
it could be a combination
of different circumstances,
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health issues that
Tutankhamun had suffered from.
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00:23:31,966 --> 00:23:33,465
- Dr. Sahar, I know
that you have a flight
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00:23:33,466 --> 00:23:35,465
to catch to Canada to
meet up with the artists
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00:23:35,466 --> 00:23:37,165
working on Tut's bust.
480
00:23:37,166 --> 00:23:38,565
- Yeah, we are all working
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on the facial reconstruction
of King Tutankhamun.
482
00:23:42,666 --> 00:23:43,500
- [Mahmoud] I really
can't wait to see
483
00:23:43,501 --> 00:23:44,665
what you guys come up with.
484
00:23:44,666 --> 00:23:45,832
- Yeah.
485
00:23:45,833 --> 00:23:47,499
- Until then, I
have to go catch up
486
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:50,865
with Dr. Yasmin in Luxor,
but thank you for everything.
487
00:23:50,866 --> 00:23:52,732
I have all the
answers that I needed.
488
00:23:52,733 --> 00:23:55,565
- Okay. Thank you.
- Thank you. Thank you.
489
00:23:55,566 --> 00:23:57,632
(gentle music)
490
00:23:57,633 --> 00:24:00,633
- I have team with
Dr. Andrew Nelson,
491
00:24:02,233 --> 00:24:03,799
a Professor of Anthropology
492
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,932
at the University
of Western Ontario,
493
00:24:05,933 --> 00:24:10,565
as well as Christian
Corbet, a forensic artist.
494
00:24:10,566 --> 00:24:12,032
- Ready to go.
495
00:24:12,033 --> 00:24:14,632
Until next time, King Tut.
- We are teaming up together
496
00:24:14,633 --> 00:24:19,432
in order to bring back
Tutankhamun from the dead.
497
00:24:19,433 --> 00:24:20,932
- We'll see you with Christian.
498
00:24:20,933 --> 00:24:24,400
(gentle music continues)
499
00:24:34,966 --> 00:24:38,399
- I received an email
from Dr. Andrew Nelson
500
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,565
and he had this
incredible message that,
501
00:24:41,566 --> 00:24:42,965
"Are you interested in
doing a new project?"
502
00:24:42,966 --> 00:24:46,599
and it's a major
important individual.
503
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,365
And so, I was interested,
and then the reply email was,
504
00:24:50,366 --> 00:24:53,232
"It's King Tut,"
and I was onboard.
505
00:24:53,233 --> 00:24:55,633
I'm Christian Corbet.
I'm a sculptor.
506
00:24:57,300 --> 00:25:00,932
For anybody to think of
King Tut having come here
507
00:25:00,933 --> 00:25:04,932
thousands of years later
in his own magical way,
508
00:25:04,933 --> 00:25:09,799
is to me just an affirmation
that miracles do happen.
509
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,832
Finally we meet, King Tut.
510
00:25:12,833 --> 00:25:14,999
So, I've been creating
creative works of art
511
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,032
for over 26 years.
512
00:25:17,033 --> 00:25:20,365
This one is a fine example
of His Royal Highness,
513
00:25:20,366 --> 00:25:23,165
the late Prince
Philip, but for now,
514
00:25:23,166 --> 00:25:24,932
my heart and eyes are fully set
515
00:25:24,933 --> 00:25:29,299
on creating a forensic facial
reconstruction of King Tut,
516
00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:33,032
where it'll go forensic
first, then it'll go creative.
517
00:25:33,033 --> 00:25:35,766
(gentle music)
518
00:25:37,533 --> 00:25:40,499
And I'm gonna show you a
few things with respect
519
00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:43,032
to what I do in order to create
520
00:25:43,033 --> 00:25:45,299
the forensic facial
reconstruction.
521
00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:48,632
First step's going to be
landing tissue markers.
522
00:25:48,633 --> 00:25:50,999
There are tissue marker
charts that you use
523
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,365
in order to find
out the measurements
524
00:25:53,366 --> 00:25:55,165
and where they're
supposed to go,
525
00:25:55,166 --> 00:25:59,265
and then we slowly build
up muscle by muscle.
526
00:25:59,266 --> 00:26:00,699
(tool clicking)
527
00:26:00,700 --> 00:26:03,366
(gentle music)
528
00:26:05,666 --> 00:26:07,099
(Christian exhales)
529
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:08,599
The point of the
camera is to take
530
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,533
as many pictures as
possible of all the stages.
531
00:26:12,733 --> 00:26:15,199
So the next stage
is finding the spots
532
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,332
where we are going to be
placing tissue markers.
533
00:26:19,333 --> 00:26:21,732
(image clicking)
534
00:26:21,733 --> 00:26:23,699
Well, here we are a couple weeks
535
00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:27,399
into the forensic
facial reconstruction
of King Tutankhamun.
536
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,032
This is the very early stage.
537
00:26:29,033 --> 00:26:31,899
A lotta people think of King Tut
538
00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:34,565
as the sort of the
golden mask image.
539
00:26:34,566 --> 00:26:37,732
And it's almost idealized
with the bright colors
540
00:26:37,733 --> 00:26:39,265
and the perfect features.
541
00:26:39,266 --> 00:26:41,499
But here, we have something
completely different.
542
00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:43,399
In the creating
part of it is that,
543
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,065
how do I depict Tut
after the forensic stage?
544
00:26:47,066 --> 00:26:49,265
Do I make him smile?
Do I make him frown?
545
00:26:49,266 --> 00:26:51,599
Do I make him look
worried, concerned?
546
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,899
I really want King
Tut to come to life
547
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:56,899
in a completely new
and exciting way,
548
00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:59,832
and who knows,
perhaps create maybe
549
00:26:59,833 --> 00:27:01,399
the most definitive look
550
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,132
of one of the most
famous kings of all time.
551
00:27:04,133 --> 00:27:06,999
(camera clicks)
552
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,600
(tense music)
553
00:27:28,066 --> 00:27:31,832
- There are many question marks
around Tutankhamun's tomb.
554
00:27:31,833 --> 00:27:35,132
Many scholars believe that
it was not designed for him,
555
00:27:35,133 --> 00:27:38,565
that originally it was the tomb
of Ay in the Western Valley
556
00:27:38,566 --> 00:27:41,632
that was intended
for Tutankhamun,
557
00:27:41,633 --> 00:27:43,399
and that the tomb of Tutankhamun
558
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,633
was originally intended for Ay.
559
00:27:47,633 --> 00:27:50,632
Whether or not Tutankhamun's
tomb was built for him
560
00:27:50,633 --> 00:27:54,432
or for Ay is important to
scholars for several reasons.
561
00:27:54,433 --> 00:27:57,099
It's much smaller than
most pharaohs' tombs,
562
00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:59,432
leading some to believe
it must have been
563
00:27:59,433 --> 00:28:02,965
for a lesser official
or even a queen.
564
00:28:02,966 --> 00:28:04,899
Some believe Ay
made a power grab
565
00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:08,999
after Tut's untimely death
by taking a much larger tomb
566
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,300
in the Valley of the
Monkeys for himself.
567
00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:16,132
Some believe he wanted
to associate himself
568
00:28:16,133 --> 00:28:19,199
with Tut's grandfather,
Amenhotep III,
569
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,733
to take credit for the
restoration of the religion.
570
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,465
I'm meeting Dr. Mostafa
Waziri in Tutankhamun's tomb
571
00:28:27,466 --> 00:28:29,332
to ask him about his theory
572
00:28:29,333 --> 00:28:31,173
on whether or not this,
too, was meant for Tut.
573
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:35,965
We're in Tutankhamun's tomb,
574
00:28:35,966 --> 00:28:38,799
and I find this
scene fascinating.
575
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,999
We see Ay performing
576
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,199
the Opening of the
Mouth on Tutankhamun.
577
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,066
Have you ever seen a scene like
this before or is it unique?
578
00:28:49,866 --> 00:28:52,000
- He died in unexpected way.
579
00:28:53,066 --> 00:28:57,132
So, who took over? Ay.
580
00:28:57,133 --> 00:29:00,299
At that time, he
was a high priest
581
00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:02,099
and then he became the king.
582
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:06,266
So now, he started this
ritual Opening of the Mouth.
583
00:29:08,133 --> 00:29:10,865
- But that was to
legitimize his own rule.
584
00:29:10,866 --> 00:29:12,265
- Yes.
- Yes.
585
00:29:12,266 --> 00:29:13,599
(ominous music)
586
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,032
The Opening of the Mouth
ceremony is a ritual
587
00:29:17,033 --> 00:29:20,932
in order to help the
deceased breathe again
588
00:29:20,933 --> 00:29:23,733
and see again and be alive
again in the afterlife.
589
00:29:24,966 --> 00:29:27,465
- The fact that Ay pictured
himself in the tomb
590
00:29:27,466 --> 00:29:30,265
performing the duties
of the Sem priest,
591
00:29:30,266 --> 00:29:33,199
who was supposed to do the
Opening of the Mouth ceremony
592
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,899
for the king, he did
it himself to make sure
593
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:37,300
that he will inherit the throne.
594
00:29:38,533 --> 00:29:41,565
Ay had ambition
and he was willing
595
00:29:41,566 --> 00:29:46,066
to step over anyone and
anything to get more power.
596
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,065
- Some people they
think that he was
597
00:29:50,066 --> 00:29:53,065
behind the death of
Tutankhamun to take over
598
00:29:53,066 --> 00:29:54,599
and to be the king of Egypt.
599
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,066
He could have done it
after one year, but no way.
600
00:29:59,133 --> 00:30:03,799
- It seems like it was
very hastily decorated.
601
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,865
So do you think that Ay
wanted to bury Tut quickly
602
00:30:07,866 --> 00:30:09,732
so that he can claim the throne?
603
00:30:09,733 --> 00:30:11,065
- The tomb was unfinished.
604
00:30:11,066 --> 00:30:13,632
So there is no hieroglyphic
inscriptions here.
605
00:30:13,633 --> 00:30:14,965
It's only drawings.
606
00:30:14,966 --> 00:30:16,099
- [Yasmin] Which is much faster.
607
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:17,732
- [Mostafa] Which
is much faster.
608
00:30:17,733 --> 00:30:19,432
- [Yasmin] But why
were they in a hurry?
609
00:30:19,433 --> 00:30:22,099
The king died and they
needed to bury him.
610
00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:24,765
But why did they need
to bury him in a hurry?
611
00:30:24,766 --> 00:30:25,799
- Most of the tombs in
the Valley of the Kings,
612
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,632
most of them are unfinished.
613
00:30:27,633 --> 00:30:29,432
- Yes, very true.
- So once the king die,
614
00:30:29,433 --> 00:30:31,565
and then they have to shut
the tomb and that's it.
615
00:30:31,566 --> 00:30:34,899
- You think this tomb
was made for Tutankhamun?
616
00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:38,232
- This tomb is the tomb of
Tutankhamun from the beginning.
617
00:30:38,233 --> 00:30:41,599
- [Yasmin] I personally
don't think so.
618
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,365
- Most of the people,
they think that this,
619
00:30:43,366 --> 00:30:44,765
it was the tomb of Ay,
620
00:30:44,766 --> 00:30:47,065
and then after the death
of the Tutankhamun,
621
00:30:47,066 --> 00:30:48,300
Ay decided to give it to him.
622
00:30:50,733 --> 00:30:51,733
No.
623
00:30:52,366 --> 00:30:55,033
(somber music)
624
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:59,065
- After getting Dr.
Waziri's thoughts
625
00:30:59,066 --> 00:31:01,265
on King Tut's tomb,
Yasmin and I are meeting
626
00:31:01,266 --> 00:31:04,132
with Dr. Aidan Dodson
to get his opinion
627
00:31:04,133 --> 00:31:07,465
on whether or not Ay
usurped Tutankhamun's tomb
628
00:31:07,466 --> 00:31:10,100
to help us understand the
battle for succession.
629
00:31:11,166 --> 00:31:14,299
- Dr. Dodson, the
tomb of Tutankhamun,
630
00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:16,665
do you think it
was made for him?
631
00:31:16,666 --> 00:31:19,799
Because many scholars
believe that the tomb of Ay
632
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,865
was intended for Tutankhamun.
633
00:31:21,866 --> 00:31:24,765
- That's an idea I
generally support.
634
00:31:24,766 --> 00:31:27,099
Certainly the tomb, which
Tutankhamun was buried in,
635
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:29,032
was not intended for
a king originally.
636
00:31:29,033 --> 00:31:31,265
It had been taken over for that,
637
00:31:31,266 --> 00:31:35,365
but we think that there was
one begun at Amarna for him.
638
00:31:35,366 --> 00:31:36,865
Of course, that was abandoned
639
00:31:36,866 --> 00:31:41,332
when the whole Amarna
experiment was was terminated.
640
00:31:41,333 --> 00:31:44,699
And the tomb which Ay was
buried in in the West Valley,
641
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:46,299
it certainly fits for
what one would expect
642
00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:48,866
Tutankhamun's
original tomb to be.
643
00:31:50,166 --> 00:31:53,765
And that the simplest solution
could be simply that Ay
644
00:31:53,766 --> 00:31:56,432
and Tutankhamun did
a swap of tombs,
645
00:31:56,433 --> 00:31:59,265
that the tomb which Tutankhamun
was actually buried in,
646
00:31:59,266 --> 00:32:02,399
was intended for Ay,
and Ay decided he wanted
647
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,232
to have the royal
tomb in West Valley,
648
00:32:05,233 --> 00:32:06,932
and they simply swapped over.
649
00:32:06,933 --> 00:32:10,332
And certainly the tomb which
Tutankhamun was buried in,
650
00:32:10,333 --> 00:32:12,332
is very much of the sort
you'd expect to find
651
00:32:12,333 --> 00:32:16,065
for a high status
individual of that time.
652
00:32:16,066 --> 00:32:17,599
There are other options,
653
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,399
and one possibility could
be that it was the place
654
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,232
where the mummy of
(indistinct) and Nefertiti
655
00:32:23,233 --> 00:32:25,732
was originally put, and
then she was simply removed
656
00:32:25,733 --> 00:32:27,899
from the tomb when
it was decided
657
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:30,065
this was needed for Tutankhamun.
658
00:32:30,066 --> 00:32:32,865
So, it clearly was
somebody else's.
659
00:32:32,866 --> 00:32:36,199
We could debate until the
cows come home whose it was,
660
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,065
but then this burial chamber
was added and decorated
661
00:32:39,066 --> 00:32:41,065
purely for Tutankhamun
as far as I'm concerned.
662
00:32:41,066 --> 00:32:42,199
- Thank you, Dr. Dodson.
663
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,165
You and I have a lot
of notes to compare
664
00:32:44,166 --> 00:32:45,499
and conclusions to come up with.
665
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:47,599
- [Yasmin] Definitely.
I'm looking forward this.
666
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,932
- [Mahmoud] Thank
you, Dr. Dodson.
667
00:32:48,933 --> 00:32:50,899
- [Yasmin] Thank you very much.
668
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,366
(gentle music)
669
00:32:57,500 --> 00:33:00,399
At this stage of our
journey with Tut,
670
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,299
the mystery remains
about whether or not
671
00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:06,565
the tomb he was buried
in was meant for him.
672
00:33:06,566 --> 00:33:09,432
Now Rashad and I are
heading to Ay's Tomb
673
00:33:09,433 --> 00:33:12,465
to meet with Dr. Tarek
Tawfik to get his theory
674
00:33:12,466 --> 00:33:13,466
on the matter.
675
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,800
(both speaking in
foreign language)
676
00:33:23,166 --> 00:33:24,332
- After the death
of Tutankhamun,
677
00:33:24,333 --> 00:33:27,599
the picture becomes
a bit blurry.
678
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,232
Did he marry the widow of
Tutankhamun rather quickly
679
00:33:32,233 --> 00:33:35,265
to become the next pharaoh?
680
00:33:35,266 --> 00:33:38,765
It's not entirely asserted.
681
00:33:38,766 --> 00:33:40,265
- I've never been to this tomb.
682
00:33:40,266 --> 00:33:42,665
I studied it so much (speaking
in foreign language).
683
00:33:42,666 --> 00:33:44,265
- And I'm actually
684
00:33:44,266 --> 00:33:46,146
very embarrassed (speaking
in foreign language).
685
00:33:46,233 --> 00:33:48,232
(both speaking in
foreign language)
686
00:33:48,233 --> 00:33:50,632
(Tarek speaking in
foreign language)
687
00:33:50,633 --> 00:33:53,165
(Mahmoud speaking
in foreign language)
688
00:33:53,166 --> 00:33:55,432
(Tarek speaking in
foreign language)
689
00:33:55,433 --> 00:33:58,233
- [Mahmoud] It looks unfinished.
690
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:01,965
- It's very interesting
because the color scheme
691
00:34:01,966 --> 00:34:05,632
is very similar to that
of the tomb of Tut,
692
00:34:05,633 --> 00:34:08,665
but the quality of the
decoration isn't as good.
693
00:34:08,666 --> 00:34:10,199
- Yes.
- The first moment,
694
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:14,665
it strike us as very similar
to Tutankhamun's tomb,
695
00:34:14,666 --> 00:34:17,333
but still there are
a lot of differences.
696
00:34:18,700 --> 00:34:20,032
It's mainly the baboons.
- The baboons are similar,
697
00:34:20,033 --> 00:34:21,499
of course.
698
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:22,333
- [Mahmoud] I think that the
baboons is what gives it away.
699
00:34:22,334 --> 00:34:23,632
- Yes.
- Exactly.
700
00:34:23,633 --> 00:34:25,499
But other scenes
on the other walls
701
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:28,532
are quite different
than Tutankhamun.
702
00:34:28,533 --> 00:34:31,065
- [Yasmin] There are
many scholars who believe
703
00:34:31,066 --> 00:34:33,299
this tomb was intended
for Tutankhamun,
704
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:36,065
and that Tutankhamun's
tomb was intended for Ay.
705
00:34:36,066 --> 00:34:37,332
What do you think?
706
00:34:37,333 --> 00:34:38,632
- I would ask myself,
707
00:34:38,633 --> 00:34:43,566
why should Tutankhamun be
buried here in the West Valley?
708
00:34:45,066 --> 00:34:48,565
He is buried in the Valley
of the Kings where he belong.
709
00:34:48,566 --> 00:34:51,165
- But maybe because he
wanted to associate himself
710
00:34:51,166 --> 00:34:52,332
with Amenhotep III.
711
00:34:52,333 --> 00:34:53,665
- His grandfather.
712
00:34:53,666 --> 00:34:57,465
- Possible, but when
we look at the plan
713
00:34:57,466 --> 00:34:59,565
of the tomb of Tutankhamun,
714
00:34:59,566 --> 00:35:04,533
we will notice that this tomb
was actually, in my opinion,
715
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,465
really designed for him,
716
00:35:08,466 --> 00:35:12,265
because this is the only tomb
in the Valley of the Kings
717
00:35:12,266 --> 00:35:16,766
where we have a chamber to the
east of the burial chamber.
718
00:35:17,933 --> 00:35:21,199
And in this tomb, in
the tomb of Tutankhamun,
719
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,765
the objects that are related
to the funeral procession
720
00:35:25,766 --> 00:35:27,965
from east towards west.
- From east to west.
721
00:35:27,966 --> 00:35:31,032
- I love this
interpretation. I love it.
722
00:35:31,033 --> 00:35:34,799
- And this means
that he, Tutankhamun,
723
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,800
here is emphasizing the return
to the old afterlife belief,
724
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,265
which is associated to the west,
725
00:35:45,266 --> 00:35:48,265
not with the east like
it was at the time of-
726
00:35:48,266 --> 00:35:49,865
(both speaking at once)
727
00:35:49,866 --> 00:35:51,399
(gentle music)
728
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,299
The tomb in the West Valley,
729
00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:58,466
the Valley of the Monkeys
was made, planned, decorated,
730
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:03,699
all for Ay himself,
not for anybody else.
731
00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:07,465
- This is amazing, but
let's go have lunch.
732
00:36:07,466 --> 00:36:08,665
- I know the perfect
local place. Let's go.
733
00:36:08,666 --> 00:36:11,032
- I think that's
a very good idea.
734
00:36:11,033 --> 00:36:12,099
- I'm shaking.
735
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:14,599
(Yasmin chattering)
736
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,133
(gentle music continues)
737
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:25,333
(Mahmoud speaking
in foreign language)
738
00:36:26,466 --> 00:36:30,533
(both speaking in
foreign language)
739
00:36:34,133 --> 00:36:36,199
(Yasmin speaking in
foreign language)
740
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,332
(Mahmoud speaking
in foreign language)
741
00:36:40,333 --> 00:36:43,599
(both speaking in
foreign language)
742
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,465
- So now it's really
time for food.
743
00:36:45,466 --> 00:36:47,165
- Yes.
744
00:36:47,166 --> 00:36:49,532
- We heard a lot of theories
and read a lot of theories
745
00:36:49,533 --> 00:36:53,532
about how Tut must have died,
how do you think he died?
746
00:36:53,533 --> 00:36:57,765
- There could have been
many reasons for his death.
747
00:36:57,766 --> 00:36:59,199
- Demise, yeah.
748
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,232
- I do not think that
there is evidence enough
749
00:37:03,233 --> 00:37:05,999
to support that he was murdered.
750
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:10,899
But weak health
condition could have led
751
00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:12,833
to his rather early death.
752
00:37:14,366 --> 00:37:16,899
- [Yasmin] So let's just
play devil's advocate
753
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:19,399
and assume that he was murdered.
754
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,033
Who would've done it
if he was murdered?
755
00:37:23,233 --> 00:37:25,500
- Okay, just for the
sake of argument.
756
00:37:27,566 --> 00:37:31,733
At this age as a teenager,
Tutankhamun would've started
757
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,199
to have his own opinions
and his own mind.
758
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:41,200
Tutankhamun, at
the age of 15, 16,
759
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,232
now he would have his own mind.
760
00:37:46,233 --> 00:37:47,532
- [Yasmin] So he was
realizing that, you know,
761
00:37:47,533 --> 00:37:49,532
"I'm king, so why am I not-"
762
00:37:49,533 --> 00:37:51,165
- [Tarek] He's king.
763
00:37:51,166 --> 00:37:51,766
- Making my own decision.
- "Why do I need to listen
764
00:37:51,767 --> 00:37:53,065
to these guys?"
765
00:37:53,066 --> 00:37:54,832
- Exactly, and we
don't know exactly
766
00:37:54,833 --> 00:37:57,532
where his mind was going.
767
00:37:57,533 --> 00:38:02,600
He was not anymore
totally in line-
768
00:38:03,733 --> 00:38:05,573
- With Ay and Horemheb.
- With Ay and Horemheb.
769
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,800
This could have been a
motive to start thinking
770
00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:16,100
of getting rid of him, but
this is totally speculative.
771
00:38:17,566 --> 00:38:19,499
- What about the
chariot accident?
772
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:20,766
- The gash in his knee.
773
00:38:22,066 --> 00:38:24,665
- Of course the
idea of him having
774
00:38:24,666 --> 00:38:26,665
an accident with a chariot-
775
00:38:26,666 --> 00:38:28,565
- Is attractive.
- Is very attractive
776
00:38:28,566 --> 00:38:32,499
and dramatic, but we
have really no proof.
777
00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:35,565
He could have fallen
going down the stairs.
778
00:38:35,566 --> 00:38:36,732
- I'm not a scholar
like you guys,
779
00:38:36,733 --> 00:38:39,965
so I tend to run wild
with my imagination.
780
00:38:39,966 --> 00:38:42,565
I tend to think that, okay,
781
00:38:42,566 --> 00:38:44,332
King Tut did have
difficulty walking,
782
00:38:44,333 --> 00:38:46,632
and I think this is a fact.
783
00:38:46,633 --> 00:38:49,565
I can really imagine that
he liked nothing more
784
00:38:49,566 --> 00:38:51,632
but to be strapped
onto a chariot
785
00:38:51,633 --> 00:38:54,065
and to go for a run with
it every now and then,
786
00:38:54,066 --> 00:38:56,399
especially that
most of his chariots
787
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,965
show signs of wear and tear.
788
00:38:58,966 --> 00:39:00,665
They were used.
789
00:39:00,666 --> 00:39:02,965
Now I'm adding to that your
theory, which I really like,
790
00:39:02,966 --> 00:39:04,832
about him being a
rebellious teenager
791
00:39:04,833 --> 00:39:06,665
that they wanted to get rid of.
792
00:39:06,666 --> 00:39:08,899
Maybe instead of
preventing him from going
793
00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:11,632
on these chariot rides
that are dangerous,
794
00:39:11,633 --> 00:39:12,700
they encouraged it.
795
00:39:14,466 --> 00:39:15,999
It could be, it could be.
796
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,032
- [Yasmin] So it was
a convenient death.
797
00:39:18,033 --> 00:39:18,966
- Yes! Yes.
798
00:39:18,967 --> 00:39:20,032
- You are now really...
799
00:39:20,033 --> 00:39:22,365
- I'm going into,
I'm writing a script.
800
00:39:22,366 --> 00:39:24,199
- Exactly. Exactly.
(Mahmoud laughs)
801
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,632
- I'm writing a script.
802
00:39:25,633 --> 00:39:28,032
- We don't have the evidence
to support any of this.
803
00:39:28,033 --> 00:39:29,965
- No.
- Yeah, of course.
804
00:39:29,966 --> 00:39:33,699
- But the circumstances would
allow something like this.
805
00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:35,332
- Yes. Yes, yes.
806
00:39:35,333 --> 00:39:37,999
- There's no evidence
for or against,
807
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,165
so anything's possible.
808
00:39:39,166 --> 00:39:40,066
- The thing with
Tut's story especially
809
00:39:40,067 --> 00:39:42,332
is that everything is possible.
810
00:39:42,333 --> 00:39:44,899
There are countless
possibilities
811
00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:48,665
to what could have
happened, with equal chance.
812
00:39:48,666 --> 00:39:50,532
After listening to
the different opinions
813
00:39:50,533 --> 00:39:52,565
on the debate whether Tut's tomb
814
00:39:52,566 --> 00:39:54,832
was meant for him or for Ay,
815
00:39:54,833 --> 00:39:58,299
I believe Ay gave
Tutankhamun the smaller tomb
816
00:39:58,300 --> 00:40:00,565
and claimed the bigger
tomb for himself
817
00:40:00,566 --> 00:40:03,200
when he took the throne
to cement his kingship.
818
00:40:05,366 --> 00:40:07,699
And now we turn to how he died.
819
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:11,032
Was it from natural
causes or was he murdered?
820
00:40:11,033 --> 00:40:13,865
Were Ay and Horemheb
Tut's allies or enemies,
821
00:40:13,866 --> 00:40:17,499
and did they play a
role in his death?
822
00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:20,400
(mysterious music)
823
00:40:30,866 --> 00:40:33,632
I'm here at the Giza Plateau
to meet Dr. Zahi Hawass.
824
00:40:33,633 --> 00:40:35,665
He has something very
interesting to show me.
825
00:40:35,666 --> 00:40:38,665
It's the hunting lodge that
belonged to King Tutankhamun,
826
00:40:38,666 --> 00:40:41,465
which contradicts his
incapability to walk,
827
00:40:41,466 --> 00:40:43,465
to hunt, to ride a chariot.
828
00:40:43,466 --> 00:40:44,665
So, I'm really curious to see
829
00:40:44,666 --> 00:40:47,099
what he has to say
about this today,
830
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:49,266
and also who is the
villain of our story.
831
00:40:52,833 --> 00:40:56,532
- Zahi Hawass, Egyptologist.
832
00:40:56,533 --> 00:40:58,665
- Dr. Zahi, I came
back just to check out
833
00:40:58,666 --> 00:41:01,099
the lodge of Tutankhamun
that is here.
834
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:02,599
- He loved hunting.
835
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,532
It's because of that desert.
836
00:41:04,533 --> 00:41:06,065
This is a valley of gazelles.
837
00:41:06,066 --> 00:41:08,932
It was full of animals.
838
00:41:08,933 --> 00:41:10,999
- Dr. Zahi, then how do you
explain the hunting scenes
839
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,999
of Tutankhamun while
he's sitting down?
840
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,065
- Actually, that hunting
scene for him sitting down,
841
00:41:17,066 --> 00:41:19,499
it proves that he did hunt.
842
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:20,732
- Yes.
843
00:41:20,733 --> 00:41:24,599
- But in his tomb,
found 130 sticks.
844
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,532
And this to show that even he
had some physical problems,
845
00:41:27,533 --> 00:41:29,665
but still he can walk in a stick
846
00:41:29,666 --> 00:41:32,365
shooting wild animals seated,
847
00:41:32,366 --> 00:41:34,332
and beside him, the queen.
848
00:41:34,333 --> 00:41:35,865
We know that everything
in Ancient Egypt
849
00:41:35,866 --> 00:41:40,932
had to have advisors
to ask for decisions.
850
00:41:40,933 --> 00:41:45,699
And therefore, I think
that Horemheb and Ay
851
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:50,432
had nothing to do with the
death of Tutankhamun at all.
852
00:41:50,433 --> 00:41:53,699
In Ancient Egypt, the
pharaoh is a pharaoh.
853
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:56,699
No one really can
disobey a pharaoh.
854
00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:57,700
All of them have to bow
855
00:41:57,701 --> 00:41:59,899
in front of the king.
- True. True.
856
00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:03,265
- All the theories
before that was published
857
00:42:03,266 --> 00:42:06,799
by many people that
Tutankhamun was murdered,
858
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,332
it is not true.
859
00:42:08,333 --> 00:42:12,332
Tutankhamun died on an accident,
860
00:42:12,333 --> 00:42:15,765
and this can be
proved by the fracture
861
00:42:15,766 --> 00:42:16,965
that he had in his left leg,
862
00:42:16,966 --> 00:42:19,799
but he suffered from malaria.
863
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,632
And that was the thing
that really made him to die
864
00:42:23,633 --> 00:42:24,732
because of the accident.
865
00:42:24,733 --> 00:42:26,165
- [Mahmoud] You're
saying that he died
866
00:42:26,166 --> 00:42:29,065
in a combination of an
accident and malaria together.
867
00:42:29,066 --> 00:42:31,665
- [Zahi] The malaria
was the major thing.
868
00:42:31,666 --> 00:42:35,565
In that time, the malaria
became the disease
869
00:42:35,566 --> 00:42:38,765
that everyone suffered, not
only Tutankhamun but others.
870
00:42:38,766 --> 00:42:41,132
- Dr. Zahi, a lot of
researchers and scholars
871
00:42:41,133 --> 00:42:43,999
tend to believe that Ay is
the villain of our story.
872
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,332
Do you agree with them?
873
00:42:45,333 --> 00:42:47,565
- First of all, I
never read a story
874
00:42:47,566 --> 00:42:49,099
from any scholar who said that.
875
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:50,066
- Okay.
876
00:42:50,067 --> 00:42:52,099
- Maybe some people say that,
877
00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:54,732
but there is no evidence at all.
878
00:42:54,733 --> 00:42:59,465
On the contrary, there is
evidence to prove the opposite.
879
00:42:59,466 --> 00:43:04,400
Ay tried his best to prove
that he's the legal one
880
00:43:05,133 --> 00:43:06,665
to be the king of Egypt.
881
00:43:06,666 --> 00:43:08,732
And for him to restore that,
882
00:43:08,733 --> 00:43:11,200
he has to show his
loyalty to Tutankhamun.
883
00:43:12,466 --> 00:43:14,365
- My impression so far
of Tut on this journey
884
00:43:14,366 --> 00:43:16,199
is that it was a
bit of a tragedy.
885
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,065
Do you agree?
- Not at all. No, no.
886
00:43:18,066 --> 00:43:21,399
Was not a tragedy
at all. It's normal.
887
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,799
And he died because he
suffered from malaria.
888
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,465
We had many kings who suffered
from many other things.
889
00:43:26,466 --> 00:43:28,865
Then it doesn't mean that
he died because of malaria
890
00:43:28,866 --> 00:43:31,465
and an accident that
he could be a tragedy.
891
00:43:31,466 --> 00:43:32,565
Not at all.
892
00:43:32,566 --> 00:43:33,832
- Thank you, Dr. Zahi.
- Thank you.
893
00:43:33,833 --> 00:43:35,732
- Thank you for your
time. Thank you.
894
00:43:35,733 --> 00:43:37,032
(gentle music)
895
00:43:37,033 --> 00:43:40,199
Dr. Zahi had very interesting
insights on Tut's story.
896
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,165
He doesn't think
Ay was the villain,
897
00:43:42,166 --> 00:43:44,732
and I think this is where
the beauty of Tut lies.
898
00:43:44,733 --> 00:43:48,999
Everyone interprets him the
way he imagines him to be.
899
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,000
(gentle music continues)
(traffic whirring)
900
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:58,132
Did you know that
this movie theater
901
00:43:58,133 --> 00:44:02,365
is actually modeled after
Radio City in New York?
902
00:44:02,366 --> 00:44:04,099
- I had no idea.
- It is, it is.
903
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:05,865
- [Yasmin] It's a very
famous movie theater,
904
00:44:05,866 --> 00:44:07,532
but I never knew this about it.
905
00:44:07,533 --> 00:44:08,865
- [Mahmoud] What are you doing?
906
00:44:08,866 --> 00:44:10,699
- I'm going through
all the notes I took
907
00:44:10,700 --> 00:44:15,700
regarding Tutankhamun, and
it's so interesting, you know,
908
00:44:16,933 --> 00:44:19,100
all these different
theories about how he died.
909
00:44:19,966 --> 00:44:21,932
Did he die of malaria?
910
00:44:21,933 --> 00:44:26,699
Did he die from a
chariot accident?
911
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:29,365
- From the amazing
Egyptologists we sat with,
912
00:44:29,366 --> 00:44:31,932
Dr. Zahi, I think, believes
it was a chariot accident,
913
00:44:31,933 --> 00:44:33,232
and so does Dr. Waziri.
914
00:44:33,233 --> 00:44:34,133
- Yeah.
915
00:44:34,134 --> 00:44:35,565
- I don't think it was a murder.
916
00:44:35,566 --> 00:44:37,099
- No. No, no.
- This is too farfetched.
917
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:38,732
They would never
have killed a king.
918
00:44:38,733 --> 00:44:39,932
- [Yasmin] How do
you think he died?
919
00:44:39,933 --> 00:44:41,399
- [Mahmoud] I think
it was a combination
920
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,399
of malaria complications
and the knee injury.
921
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,699
But in a way, because
people who don't understand
922
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:49,432
our fascination with this,
923
00:44:49,433 --> 00:44:51,799
I don't think it's a
fascination with death.
924
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,565
It's a fascination with life.
925
00:44:53,566 --> 00:44:54,899
- [Yasmin] Just like
the Ancient Egyptians.
926
00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:56,699
We think they were
obsessed with death,
927
00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:58,232
they were actually
obsessed with life
928
00:44:58,233 --> 00:45:01,265
and they wanted their afterlife
to be just like this one.
929
00:45:01,266 --> 00:45:04,332
- Exactly, but also
concerning Tut's death,
930
00:45:04,333 --> 00:45:07,465
I find it super interesting
because it will tell us so much
931
00:45:07,466 --> 00:45:09,199
about the people
that were around him.
932
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,999
So it will tell us a lot
about Ay, about how Horemheb,
933
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,965
who are the allies and
who are the enemies.
934
00:45:13,966 --> 00:45:15,599
- [Yasmin] Yes, very true.
935
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,599
- Who do you think
were the enemies?
936
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,032
- Well, I don't know.
937
00:45:19,033 --> 00:45:21,699
I don't even know if Ay and
Horemheb were really enemies.
938
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:22,865
- Oh, come on.
- They're not.
939
00:45:22,866 --> 00:45:24,165
No, we don't know.
940
00:45:24,166 --> 00:45:27,632
- Come on, Ay is the perfect
villain of the story.
941
00:45:27,633 --> 00:45:29,265
All the evidence we have so far.
942
00:45:29,266 --> 00:45:31,132
Evidence we have-
- What's the evidence?
943
00:45:31,133 --> 00:45:32,999
- He marrying Ankhesenamun,
944
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,132
the tomb.
- That doesn't say anything
945
00:45:34,133 --> 00:45:35,699
about how-
- The tomb,
946
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:37,832
him performing the Opening
of the Mouth ceremony
947
00:45:37,833 --> 00:45:38,833
inside the tomb.
948
00:45:38,833 --> 00:45:39,800
He was the bad guy.
949
00:45:39,801 --> 00:45:41,165
- [Yasmin] Not necessarily.
950
00:45:41,166 --> 00:45:43,165
- Burying him so quickly.
- It doesn't mean
951
00:45:43,166 --> 00:45:45,099
he was an enemy.
952
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:47,299
- Jumping on
opportunities like that
953
00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:50,332
is definitely not a trade
of a well-intent man.
954
00:45:50,333 --> 00:45:53,765
- [Yasmin] Maybe he felt that
was what was best for Egypt.
955
00:45:53,766 --> 00:45:55,799
- No, that was what
was best for him.
956
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,765
- He wanted to guarantee
a smooth succession
957
00:45:58,766 --> 00:46:00,565
and he wanted to be king.
958
00:46:00,566 --> 00:46:03,399
That doesn't mean he
was Tutankhamun's enemy.
959
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,732
I'm always waiting for the
new evidence to come out.
960
00:46:05,733 --> 00:46:06,733
- Well, yes, yes,
the more the merrier.
961
00:46:06,734 --> 00:46:10,165
But for now, he is
definitely the bad guy.
962
00:46:10,166 --> 00:46:11,166
- Well, not definitely.
963
00:46:11,167 --> 00:46:13,232
I don't like the
word definitely.
964
00:46:13,233 --> 00:46:14,033
- For me.
965
00:46:14,034 --> 00:46:15,332
- Possibly.
966
00:46:15,333 --> 00:46:16,565
(both chuckle)
967
00:46:16,566 --> 00:46:18,699
We will continue
to guess forever.
968
00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:19,700
We will never know for sure,
969
00:46:19,701 --> 00:46:22,399
and that's the
beauty of Egyptology.
970
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,066
(gentle music)
971
00:46:40,266 --> 00:46:42,866
(tense music)
972
00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:49,365
- [Christian] Hello!
973
00:46:49,366 --> 00:46:50,699
- [Andrew] Christian, Sahar.
974
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:53,199
- Sahar, finally nice
to meet you in person.
975
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,099
Good to see you again, Andrew.
- Nice to see you, my friend.
976
00:46:55,100 --> 00:46:56,599
- Come on in.
977
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,199
All the way to New Brunswick,
I appreciate you coming.
978
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,699
- It's great to be
here, Christian.
979
00:47:00,700 --> 00:47:02,165
Nice to you.
- Thank you.
980
00:47:02,166 --> 00:47:06,432
- Sahar, Andrew, this
is, I'll show you now.
981
00:47:06,433 --> 00:47:09,499
This first one is
the forensic version
982
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:12,999
that I created of
King Tutankhamun.
983
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,200
And this is what I found.
984
00:47:16,033 --> 00:47:17,599
- [Sahar] Whoa.
985
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,999
- So this is the culmination
of several weeks worth of work.
986
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,099
Many, many, many hours.
987
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:25,032
- So really, at this stage,
988
00:47:25,033 --> 00:47:28,999
the whole shape of the face
is governed by that skull.
989
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,532
- Absolutely.
- That we made the 3D print
990
00:47:30,533 --> 00:47:33,965
from the CT scans, and then
the tissue thickness markers
991
00:47:33,966 --> 00:47:35,699
that we had so much
discussion about
992
00:47:35,700 --> 00:47:38,299
which was the most
appropriate ones to use,
993
00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:39,965
and people have used German ones
994
00:47:39,966 --> 00:47:40,999
and have used American ones,
995
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,199
and we opted to go
with the Egyptian ones.
996
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,365
They were a little hard to
figure out how to place.
997
00:47:46,366 --> 00:47:50,932
But I think that has really
helped to shape a face.
998
00:47:50,933 --> 00:47:53,532
So as an Egyptian, what
does it mean to you
999
00:47:53,533 --> 00:47:56,466
to see this ancient
pharaoh come to life?
1000
00:47:57,966 --> 00:48:02,666
- Tutankhamun to me is not like
any other mummy or pharaoh.
1001
00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:06,265
Tutankhamun represents
my childhood.
1002
00:48:06,266 --> 00:48:09,899
This was important for me
to relate him as a boy.
1003
00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:12,032
I was a child and
he was a child.
1004
00:48:12,033 --> 00:48:15,865
Now, bringing
Tutankhamun back to life
1005
00:48:15,866 --> 00:48:19,365
and to have this honor
and this privilege
1006
00:48:19,366 --> 00:48:22,265
to be part of this project,
1007
00:48:22,266 --> 00:48:27,165
working on Tutankhamun,
my hero of childhood,
1008
00:48:27,166 --> 00:48:31,999
and to celebrate with
him his 100 year.
1009
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,433
So, happy anniversary, Tut.
1010
00:48:35,533 --> 00:48:38,200
(gentle music)
1011
00:48:55,433 --> 00:48:58,165
- So Dr. Sahar Saleem
finally sent us the bust
1012
00:48:58,166 --> 00:48:59,232
to take a look at.
1013
00:48:59,233 --> 00:49:00,565
They've been working
on it for months,
1014
00:49:00,566 --> 00:49:02,499
and the hard work
really shows on it.
1015
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:04,665
It was very emotional
when I first saw him,
1016
00:49:04,666 --> 00:49:07,333
and I can't wait to bring in
Yasmin to see him with me.
1017
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:10,565
Have you been here before?
1018
00:49:10,566 --> 00:49:11,799
- [Yasmin] Never.
1019
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,265
- This is downtown Cairo,
1020
00:49:13,266 --> 00:49:16,899
and this company renovating
a lot of the abandoned spaces
1021
00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:19,299
turning them into art
spaces, galleries.
1022
00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:21,232
It really is a bigger project
1023
00:49:21,233 --> 00:49:24,165
to revive downtown
Cairo in general.
1024
00:49:24,166 --> 00:49:25,432
This is finally it.
1025
00:49:25,433 --> 00:49:26,433
Are you ready to see him?
1026
00:49:26,434 --> 00:49:27,799
- [Yasmin] I am. I think so.
1027
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:28,666
- Are you nervous?
1028
00:49:28,667 --> 00:49:29,999
- Well, not nervous. Excited.
1029
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:31,099
- Okay, good.
1030
00:49:31,100 --> 00:49:32,066
Are you ready?
1031
00:49:32,067 --> 00:49:33,132
- Yes.
1032
00:49:33,133 --> 00:49:34,066
- Ready?
- Yes!
1033
00:49:34,067 --> 00:49:36,599
(bright music)
1034
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,099
Oh my God.
1035
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:39,165
- I know.
1036
00:49:39,166 --> 00:49:40,166
- Wow.
1037
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:42,299
- He's brilliant, huh?
1038
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:43,399
- Yeah.
1039
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,265
It looks like a real person.
1040
00:49:45,266 --> 00:49:46,965
- It does.
- Yeah.
1041
00:49:46,966 --> 00:49:49,232
- One thing I really like
about this reconstruction
1042
00:49:49,233 --> 00:49:51,265
is that it reminded
me of the mummy.
1043
00:49:51,266 --> 00:49:54,599
I can see similar features
between him and the mummy.
1044
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,065
The brow bone, that
area really does
1045
00:49:57,066 --> 00:49:58,332
look like the mummy.
- The bone structure
1046
00:49:58,333 --> 00:49:59,765
is very similar to the mummy.
- The bone structure
1047
00:49:59,766 --> 00:50:01,499
is very good, very well done.
1048
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:03,965
The lips, I'm so happy they
didn't give him thin lips.
1049
00:50:03,966 --> 00:50:05,265
- [Yasmin] I love the piercings.
1050
00:50:05,266 --> 00:50:06,599
- [Mahmoud] And he
looks very Egyptian.
1051
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,832
- [Yasmin] He does.
1052
00:50:07,833 --> 00:50:08,965
- [Mahmoud] He looks
like modern Egyptians.
1053
00:50:08,966 --> 00:50:10,165
- He really does.
1054
00:50:10,166 --> 00:50:11,133
Like I know people
who look like him.
1055
00:50:11,134 --> 00:50:12,233
- Yes, yes.
1056
00:50:13,333 --> 00:50:14,499
The forensic artist
that worked on this,
1057
00:50:14,500 --> 00:50:16,665
he didn't see any of the
other reconstructions
1058
00:50:16,666 --> 00:50:20,065
that were made for Tut, so this
is a very fresh perspective
1059
00:50:20,066 --> 00:50:22,399
on what he would
have looked like.
1060
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,565
And the crown is fantastic.
1061
00:50:24,566 --> 00:50:25,765
- It is, it's beautiful.
- It is.
1062
00:50:25,766 --> 00:50:26,806
- Beautiful crown.
- It is.
1063
00:50:28,466 --> 00:50:30,099
And do you know what
else is brilliant?
1064
00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:33,265
It's reminding me of some of
the later busts of Akhenaten.
1065
00:50:33,266 --> 00:50:35,300
So he does look like
his father after all.
1066
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,099
The monochrome is still leaving
so much to our imagination
1067
00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:41,332
in terms of his skin
color, his eye color.
1068
00:50:41,333 --> 00:50:42,300
- [Yasmin] And I like that.
1069
00:50:42,301 --> 00:50:43,665
- [Mahmoud] I like that, too.
1070
00:50:43,666 --> 00:50:45,965
We should always leave a
bit for our imagination
1071
00:50:45,966 --> 00:50:46,966
when it comes to King Tut.
1072
00:50:46,967 --> 00:50:48,132
- Definitely.
- Always.
1073
00:50:48,133 --> 00:50:50,132
- [Yasmin] I love how
they use scientific data
1074
00:50:50,133 --> 00:50:52,099
to come up with
this reconstruction.
1075
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:54,232
It's not just, you
know, a work of art.
1076
00:50:54,233 --> 00:50:56,065
- [Mahmoud] No, it
science and art,
1077
00:50:56,066 --> 00:50:58,432
and they come up with
something like this.
1078
00:50:58,433 --> 00:51:01,299
(gentle music)
1079
00:51:01,300 --> 00:51:02,399
So, question.
1080
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,799
If you were to imagine
what Tut looked like,
1081
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,299
is this similar to what you
1082
00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:08,732
would have been
thinking of or no?
1083
00:51:08,733 --> 00:51:12,499
- [Yasmin] It's more
similar than the other
1084
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:13,665
reconstructions.
- Reconstructions, right?
1085
00:51:13,666 --> 00:51:15,299
- [Yasmin] What about you?
1086
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:17,632
- [Mahmoud] Maybe not how I
imagined him to look like,
1087
00:51:17,633 --> 00:51:20,865
but I think this is
more accurate than
what I had in mind.
1088
00:51:20,866 --> 00:51:22,165
- I feel excited.
1089
00:51:22,166 --> 00:51:25,065
I feel like, you know,
we finally have a face
1090
00:51:25,066 --> 00:51:27,799
to associate with all the
stories we've been telling.
1091
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,400
(dramatic music)
1092
00:51:41,366 --> 00:51:43,332
On the mystery surrounding
the life and death
1093
00:51:43,333 --> 00:51:46,365
of Egypt's most famous
king, Tutankhamun,
1094
00:51:46,366 --> 00:51:49,199
we looked at who he might
have been as a human being,
1095
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,132
the man behind the mask.
1096
00:51:51,133 --> 00:51:53,232
I now empathize with him.
1097
00:51:53,233 --> 00:51:56,832
I empathize with the person
who lost most of his family
1098
00:51:56,833 --> 00:51:58,299
at a young age.
1099
00:51:58,300 --> 00:52:02,532
I empathize with someone
who had to denounce
1100
00:52:02,533 --> 00:52:04,733
his own father as a heretic.
1101
00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:09,699
As an Egyptologist, and more
importantly as an Egyptian,
1102
00:52:09,700 --> 00:52:11,740
I will never look at
Tutankhamun the same way again.
1103
00:52:15,366 --> 00:52:17,099
- One thing I hope we
learned from this journey
1104
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:19,732
with King Tut is to never
judge a book by its cover.
1105
00:52:19,733 --> 00:52:22,899
King Tut on face value
looks like this privileged,
1106
00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:24,765
well-off, pampered king.
1107
00:52:24,766 --> 00:52:27,299
But in reality, it was
such a tragic story.
1108
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:29,799
And through our journey, I
really wanted to emphasize
1109
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,032
on the human side of King Tut
and the tragedy of his life.
1110
00:52:34,033 --> 00:52:35,365
For the coming generations,
1111
00:52:35,366 --> 00:52:37,632
I know that we haven't
answered most of the questions,
1112
00:52:37,633 --> 00:52:39,899
but we've given them
enough to think about.
1113
00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:43,399
We've given them enough to
keep looking, keep searching,
1114
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,232
keep asking questions
about King Tut
1115
00:52:45,233 --> 00:52:46,899
and about Ancient Egypt.
1116
00:52:46,900 --> 00:52:48,633
(gentle music)
1117
00:52:54,133 --> 00:52:56,999
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1118
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,365
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1119
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1120
00:53:00,333 --> 00:53:03,899
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1121
00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:11,900
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