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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:01:06,433 --> 00:01:07,700 - American monster movies 4 00:01:07,700 --> 00:01:09,736 are popular almost everywhere in the world. 5 00:01:09,736 --> 00:01:11,704 Tonight your guide for this rare odyssey 6 00:01:11,704 --> 00:01:14,574 is the rising star of horror, a real little terror. 7 00:01:14,574 --> 00:01:19,179 Ladies and gentlemen, here's Chucky! 8 00:01:19,179 --> 00:01:21,281 - It's showtime. 9 00:01:21,281 --> 00:01:23,316 Where the hell's Andy? 10 00:01:23,316 --> 00:01:24,517 Did you miss me, Andy? 11 00:01:24,517 --> 00:01:26,886 Andy, snap out of it! 12 00:01:26,886 --> 00:01:29,556 You act like you've never seen a dead body before! 13 00:01:29,556 --> 00:01:31,424 - I never saw a doll like you before. 14 00:01:31,424 --> 00:01:32,659 - Amazing, isn't it? 15 00:01:34,694 --> 00:01:38,264 I don't have a problem with killing. 16 00:01:42,535 --> 00:01:43,703 - Chucky did it. 17 00:01:43,703 --> 00:01:44,704 - What are you talking about?! 18 00:01:44,704 --> 00:01:46,406 - Just stay away from that doll! 19 00:01:46,406 --> 00:01:47,607 - it's just a doll. 20 00:01:47,607 --> 00:01:49,309 - Prove that it's just a doll. 21 00:01:49,309 --> 00:01:51,244 - Say something, dammit! 22 00:01:51,244 --> 00:01:52,412 - How's it hanging, Phil? 23 00:01:52,412 --> 00:01:54,013 Presto, you're dead. 24 00:01:55,348 --> 00:01:57,317 - You're dead. 25 00:01:57,317 --> 00:02:00,386 - No, you are. 26 00:02:00,386 --> 00:02:01,721 - No, you're dead, we killed you! 27 00:02:01,721 --> 00:02:04,691 - You just can't keep a good guy down. 28 00:02:04,691 --> 00:02:08,061 I am Chucky, the killer doll! 29 00:02:08,361 --> 00:02:09,329 And I dig it! 30 00:03:43,590 --> 00:03:44,691 So can you take me back to the beginning 31 00:03:44,691 --> 00:03:46,593 of when all of this started? 32 00:03:46,593 --> 00:03:48,828 - You know, I was a horror fan all my life. 33 00:03:48,828 --> 00:03:53,499 I wrote the first script when I was a student at UCLA. 34 00:03:53,499 --> 00:03:56,336 And I was really inspired by the horror movies 35 00:03:56,336 --> 00:03:57,537 that I grew up on as a kid. 36 00:03:57,537 --> 00:03:58,938 I especially loved Brian De Palma movies, 37 00:03:58,938 --> 00:04:01,641 like "Carrie" and "Dressed to Kill," and "The Fury." 38 00:04:01,641 --> 00:04:03,776 So I gravitated to writing 'cause it was cheaper. 39 00:04:03,776 --> 00:04:05,545 You know, so it's just the cost of paper, 40 00:04:05,545 --> 00:04:06,913 and in those days a typewriter. 41 00:04:06,913 --> 00:04:09,782 This was like before computers. Can you believe it? 42 00:04:09,782 --> 00:04:12,485 - For a while there in the early '80s, every weekend, 43 00:04:12,485 --> 00:04:14,487 a new slasher movie was opening up. 44 00:04:14,487 --> 00:04:15,822 It was just such a flood of them. 45 00:04:15,822 --> 00:04:17,924 - When the first "Nightmare on Elm Street" came out, 46 00:04:17,924 --> 00:04:23,630 and it was in 1984, it was very unusual to have a hero, 47 00:04:23,630 --> 00:04:25,565 be a villain like Freddy Krueger, 48 00:04:25,565 --> 00:04:28,401 who was disfigured and evil. 49 00:04:28,401 --> 00:04:30,837 It was a new kind of horror figure. 50 00:04:30,837 --> 00:04:34,540 It was a relatable horror figure. It wasn't a monster. 51 00:04:34,540 --> 00:04:36,542 It wasn't somebody grunting, and groaning, 52 00:04:36,542 --> 00:04:38,378 and coming and breaking in. 53 00:04:38,378 --> 00:04:41,648 He was a guy, and he had an attitude. 54 00:04:41,648 --> 00:04:44,517 He liked you, you know, he sort of made you feel special. 55 00:04:44,517 --> 00:04:46,452 And there was something about those elements 56 00:04:46,452 --> 00:04:47,954 that draws the audience in. 57 00:04:47,954 --> 00:04:49,689 - Oh, you know, that was back in the time when 58 00:04:49,689 --> 00:04:51,457 the killers in movies had personalities. 59 00:04:51,457 --> 00:04:52,525 You know what I mean? 60 00:04:52,525 --> 00:04:55,428 They became like the hero, 61 00:04:55,428 --> 00:04:56,496 but there was like a shape shifter, 62 00:04:56,496 --> 00:04:58,464 'cause it was also the comic relief. 63 00:04:58,464 --> 00:04:59,699 - The sense of humor is huge. 64 00:04:59,699 --> 00:05:03,536 The fact that he had humor to his malice. 65 00:05:03,536 --> 00:05:04,704 - That's back when Freddy Krueger was like, 66 00:05:04,704 --> 00:05:06,739 "Welcome to prime time, bitch!" 67 00:05:06,739 --> 00:05:10,576 And so those kind of characters found themselves 68 00:05:10,576 --> 00:05:12,679 as really the staple of the movie. 69 00:05:12,679 --> 00:05:15,548 It wasn't about the teen, the teenage kids, 70 00:05:15,548 --> 00:05:17,517 and it wasn't about the heroine. 71 00:05:17,517 --> 00:05:19,686 Those movies were about the villain. 72 00:05:19,686 --> 00:05:24,724 - It paved the way for other anti-heroes who you hated 73 00:05:24,724 --> 00:05:27,460 and were afraid of, but you also were attracted to them. 74 00:05:27,460 --> 00:05:30,830 And it did, it paved the way for a Chucky. 75 00:05:30,830 --> 00:05:33,399 - Well, what happened was my wife and I, Liz had been 76 00:05:33,399 --> 00:05:35,535 in England, in London. 77 00:05:35,535 --> 00:05:36,536 And I bought a book called 78 00:05:36,536 --> 00:05:38,638 "The Victorian Dollhouse Murders." 79 00:05:38,638 --> 00:05:41,674 Because the idea of dolls coming to life scared me 80 00:05:41,674 --> 00:05:43,609 to death when I was a little kid, Talking Tina 81 00:05:43,609 --> 00:05:45,511 from "Twilight Zone." 82 00:05:45,511 --> 00:05:47,714 And when I came back, I gave her the book and I said, 83 00:05:47,714 --> 00:05:51,584 "I would love to do something with dolls." 84 00:05:51,584 --> 00:05:53,720 And she said, "Well, there actually was this screenplay 85 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,755 that came out about six months ago called "Blood Buddy." 86 00:05:55,755 --> 00:05:58,491 But it had been passed on by the studios. 87 00:05:58,491 --> 00:06:00,293 I said, "I'm curious to read it." 88 00:06:01,594 --> 00:06:03,496 I had done "An American Tail." 89 00:06:03,496 --> 00:06:06,332 For my next project. I wanted to do something scary. 90 00:06:06,332 --> 00:06:07,567 And she gave it to me, 91 00:06:07,567 --> 00:06:10,370 and I really liked the overall idea of it. 92 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:12,071 A great idea, Don's concept 93 00:06:12,071 --> 00:06:14,474 of a doll that is programmed 94 00:06:14,474 --> 00:06:16,676 by Madison Avenue to come to life. 95 00:06:16,676 --> 00:06:18,411 - On Madison Avenue, they refer to children 96 00:06:18,411 --> 00:06:20,580 as consumer trainees. 97 00:06:20,580 --> 00:06:22,849 And so like training children to want things 98 00:06:22,849 --> 00:06:25,752 that they don't need and become compulsive buyers. 99 00:06:25,752 --> 00:06:28,554 And then in the midst of the '80s 100 00:06:28,554 --> 00:06:30,656 and Cabbage Patch Dolls had just come out. 101 00:06:30,656 --> 00:06:32,792 They were this huge craze. 102 00:06:32,792 --> 00:06:37,497 And I realized that the whole living doll trope 103 00:06:37,497 --> 00:06:40,233 in the horror genre, I had seen Talking Tina 104 00:06:40,233 --> 00:06:41,567 on the "Twilight Zone." 105 00:06:41,567 --> 00:06:44,470 I had seen "Magic" with Anthony Hopkins. 106 00:06:44,470 --> 00:06:46,839 But I realized that no one had ever done 107 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,643 the living doll thing as a full fledged feature 108 00:06:50,643 --> 00:06:53,679 where you treat the doll as a character who 109 00:06:53,679 --> 00:06:56,649 can actually emote and you can give him pages of dialogue. 110 00:06:56,649 --> 00:06:58,618 And "Gremlins" had just come out. 111 00:06:58,618 --> 00:07:01,587 So it's like with "Gremlins," I realized 112 00:07:01,587 --> 00:07:03,723 that animatronic effects had gotten to a point 113 00:07:03,723 --> 00:07:06,726 where they were sophisticated enough 114 00:07:06,726 --> 00:07:09,529 that the puppets could actually emote. 115 00:07:09,529 --> 00:07:11,631 So sort of all these ideas came together, 116 00:07:11,631 --> 00:07:13,566 and out came the first Chucky script. 117 00:07:19,572 --> 00:07:22,742 - The veteran slashers like Freddy, and Jason, 118 00:07:22,742 --> 00:07:25,478 and Michael Myers were getting a little tired by then. 119 00:07:25,478 --> 00:07:27,547 - Don came to my office and we met, 120 00:07:27,547 --> 00:07:29,649 and I got the rights to the script. 121 00:07:29,649 --> 00:07:31,751 - He had at the time, a deal at Disney. 122 00:07:31,751 --> 00:07:33,786 And so he had an office on the Disney lot. 123 00:07:33,786 --> 00:07:36,656 And I'm like 20 or 21, and so it was a really big deal 124 00:07:36,656 --> 00:07:38,691 to have someone who was established 125 00:07:38,691 --> 00:07:41,794 and had done such big work, take an interest 126 00:07:41,794 --> 00:07:45,631 in what I had written and support it and get it going. 127 00:07:45,631 --> 00:07:48,734 - The slasher genre was ready for a burst of new blood, 128 00:07:48,734 --> 00:07:53,406 and Chucky supplied that in spades in 1988, 129 00:07:53,406 --> 00:07:54,807 with the release of "Child's Play." 130 00:07:54,807 --> 00:07:58,611 - And did some work on my own on some ideas for it, 131 00:07:58,611 --> 00:08:01,414 because there wasn't, there wasn't 132 00:08:01,414 --> 00:08:02,815 the "Frankenstein" moment in it. 133 00:08:02,815 --> 00:08:05,485 There wasn't the moment that brought the creature to life. 134 00:08:05,485 --> 00:08:06,519 He just, he was a doll 135 00:08:06,519 --> 00:08:08,488 that had blood in him, not real blood, 136 00:08:08,488 --> 00:08:10,423 but you could be its blood buddy. 137 00:08:10,423 --> 00:08:11,624 I felt very strongly that there should 138 00:08:11,624 --> 00:08:13,459 be something very different about this. 139 00:08:13,459 --> 00:08:17,697 And so the story starts off in the original 140 00:08:17,697 --> 00:08:20,500 with a murderer, Brad Dourif, running through the streets 141 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:22,435 and the police are chasing him. 142 00:08:22,435 --> 00:08:24,437 And he takes refuge in a toy store. 143 00:08:24,437 --> 00:08:26,839 - And he's shot by a police detective. 144 00:08:26,839 --> 00:08:31,744 But before he dies, he does this arcane voodoo ritual 145 00:08:31,744 --> 00:08:35,882 that takes his spirit and puts it into this inanimate doll. 146 00:08:35,882 --> 00:08:38,351 - That's really what brought the creature to life. 147 00:08:42,455 --> 00:08:44,390 The name was very important. 148 00:08:44,390 --> 00:08:46,659 In Don's script it was Buddy. 149 00:08:46,659 --> 00:08:49,762 For me, the men that truly haunted my childhood 150 00:08:49,762 --> 00:08:52,398 were James Earl Ray who shot Martin Luther King, 151 00:08:52,398 --> 00:08:54,700 Lee Harvey Oswald, and Charles Manson. 152 00:08:54,700 --> 00:08:58,738 So Charles Lee Ray are all three of those names. 153 00:08:58,738 --> 00:09:02,174 And I don't know if you know that. Yeah. 154 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:07,213 And from there his friends called him Chucky. 155 00:09:07,213 --> 00:09:08,848 - Hi, I'm Chucky, 156 00:09:08,848 --> 00:09:12,318 and I'm your friend till the end, Hidey-ho! 157 00:09:13,486 --> 00:09:15,488 - We follow young Andy Barclay who's 158 00:09:15,488 --> 00:09:18,457 a lonely kid living with a single mom. 159 00:09:18,457 --> 00:09:20,493 And he wants a Good Guys doll, 160 00:09:20,493 --> 00:09:23,763 'cause it's the rage in toys that year. 161 00:09:23,763 --> 00:09:27,466 And Andy's mom buys that doll for Andy. 162 00:09:27,466 --> 00:09:29,902 And pretty soon Andy has a new best friend, 163 00:09:29,902 --> 00:09:32,505 but it's not the kind of best friend that you want. 164 00:09:32,505 --> 00:09:34,206 It's more of his worst friend. 165 00:09:35,474 --> 00:09:37,443 - Hi, I'm Chucky, wanna play? 166 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,747 - For my presentation what I had done are sketches 167 00:09:41,747 --> 00:09:44,283 of what I thought Chucky would look like, 168 00:09:44,283 --> 00:09:45,718 I mean in fierce form. 169 00:09:45,718 --> 00:09:49,655 You know, they all have kind of like jumpers or overalls. 170 00:09:49,655 --> 00:09:53,459 What I did was I took elements of childhood implements, 171 00:09:53,459 --> 00:09:55,428 like a little kid's baseball bat, 172 00:09:55,428 --> 00:09:58,631 things that are overall innocuous to murder. 173 00:09:58,631 --> 00:10:00,866 That kind of became an important signature piece for him 174 00:10:00,866 --> 00:10:03,836 for that clothing and the colors that go with that. 175 00:10:03,836 --> 00:10:06,539 The My Buddy doll that Don spoke of had red hair. 176 00:10:06,539 --> 00:10:08,574 - In fairy tales, the archetype of some, 177 00:10:08,574 --> 00:10:11,544 you know, redheads evil, 178 00:10:11,544 --> 00:10:13,679 you know, and that's partly why Chucky has red hair. 179 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,715 I mean, it's just, it's silly and ridiculous. 180 00:10:15,715 --> 00:10:17,717 And of course, we know redheads are 181 00:10:17,717 --> 00:10:20,620 the nicest people in the world, 182 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:24,991 but in fairy tales they are harbingers of evil. 183 00:10:25,658 --> 00:10:28,561 - The more important part was turning 184 00:10:28,561 --> 00:10:30,663 this kind of benign doll that could be seen 185 00:10:30,663 --> 00:10:33,599 on the shelf at ToysRUs or something, 186 00:10:33,599 --> 00:10:35,534 and what it would look like when the monster came out. 187 00:10:35,534 --> 00:10:36,802 - I said talk to me, dammit, 188 00:10:36,802 --> 00:10:39,405 or else I'm gonna throw you in the fire! 189 00:10:39,405 --> 00:10:41,374 - You stupid bitch! 190 00:10:41,374 --> 00:10:42,375 You filthy slut! 191 00:10:42,375 --> 00:10:44,710 - In those shots, he kind of changed from 192 00:10:44,710 --> 00:10:47,713 the mop-haired guy to a bit of a receding hairline. 193 00:10:47,713 --> 00:10:49,749 A lot of Jack Nicholson honestly was my inspiration 194 00:10:49,749 --> 00:10:52,518 from "The Shining" for that face. 195 00:10:54,820 --> 00:10:58,391 - I can't think of a thing to say. Fuck it. 196 00:10:58,391 --> 00:11:01,227 - Chucky's very famous. 197 00:11:01,227 --> 00:11:02,628 - Chucky's so famous. 198 00:11:02,628 --> 00:11:04,463 Chucky's the most famous thing you've done, right? 199 00:11:04,463 --> 00:11:07,266 - Yeah, but I'm nowhere near 200 00:11:07,266 --> 00:11:08,634 the star Chucky is. 201 00:11:08,634 --> 00:11:10,703 - I was, you know, a huge fan of his even 202 00:11:10,703 --> 00:11:12,538 just starting as a kid, growing up, 203 00:11:12,538 --> 00:11:13,839 "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." 204 00:11:13,839 --> 00:11:17,777 I was a freshman at Columbia University, 18 years old, 205 00:11:17,777 --> 00:11:20,680 and he was teaching an acting class there, 206 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:23,749 and I audited the acting class. 207 00:11:23,749 --> 00:11:26,585 And then he coincidentally ended up playing 208 00:11:26,585 --> 00:11:27,920 this character that I created. 209 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,490 I didn't cast him, Tom Holland, who was the director 210 00:11:31,490 --> 00:11:33,426 of the first movie, cast Brad. 211 00:11:33,426 --> 00:11:35,394 What was it like to switch from, 212 00:11:35,394 --> 00:11:36,929 you know, acting to voice acting? 213 00:11:40,433 --> 00:11:42,802 - It's the same thing, really. 214 00:11:42,802 --> 00:11:46,772 You get innately into how to work with a microphone. 215 00:11:46,772 --> 00:11:49,709 After a while you just kind of fall into it. 216 00:11:49,709 --> 00:11:51,844 - So much of that character is the voice. 217 00:11:51,844 --> 00:11:55,247 And you can tell that he seems to be having fun 218 00:11:55,548 --> 00:11:57,683 as a little doll that came to life. 219 00:11:57,683 --> 00:11:59,719 You know, like, okay, I'm stuck with this, 220 00:11:59,719 --> 00:12:01,587 but I'm gonna have fun with it. 221 00:12:01,587 --> 00:12:04,690 - It's really fun and inspiring to work with him. 222 00:12:04,690 --> 00:12:07,393 The thing about Brad is he does not condescend 223 00:12:07,393 --> 00:12:08,394 to this at all. 224 00:12:08,394 --> 00:12:09,695 Brad like approaches this 225 00:12:09,695 --> 00:12:11,731 as like, "Where is he coming from?" 226 00:12:11,731 --> 00:12:13,332 I mean, he doesn't literally say, 227 00:12:13,332 --> 00:12:14,600 "What is Chucky's motivation?" 228 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,703 But we do, we talk about it in the way 229 00:12:17,703 --> 00:12:19,705 that I do with any character, any other actor. 230 00:12:19,705 --> 00:12:21,874 And we're thinking, what is the subtext here? 231 00:12:21,874 --> 00:12:24,744 - There's something really fun about being the villain. 232 00:12:24,744 --> 00:12:27,680 That weird motivation of I want to hurt. 233 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:29,648 I don't care who I step on, 234 00:12:29,648 --> 00:12:31,383 this is what I want and I'm going to, 235 00:12:31,383 --> 00:12:32,718 and I'm going to get it. 236 00:12:32,718 --> 00:12:34,420 There's something sort of weird 237 00:12:34,420 --> 00:12:37,556 and pure about that motivation. 238 00:12:37,556 --> 00:12:39,425 It's kind of fun. 239 00:12:39,425 --> 00:12:41,293 Which is even really scarier. 240 00:12:41,293 --> 00:12:43,562 That's the scary part. 241 00:12:43,562 --> 00:12:46,532 I mean, I think it's finding the truth in yourself 242 00:12:46,532 --> 00:12:48,734 about your own emotions and feelings, 243 00:12:48,734 --> 00:12:50,503 and the elements that lead you there. 244 00:12:50,503 --> 00:12:51,904 You can give yourself 245 00:12:51,904 --> 00:12:54,640 a million different reasons why you behave the way you do. 246 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,709 It's justification for you. 247 00:12:56,709 --> 00:12:59,245 You find a justification in your own evil. 248 00:12:59,245 --> 00:13:01,413 - Acting is intention. 249 00:13:01,413 --> 00:13:04,517 And you know, all of us have a sort of 250 00:13:04,517 --> 00:13:06,919 a really violent heart. 251 00:13:06,919 --> 00:13:10,456 I mean we're all killers. There's no such thing as evil. 252 00:13:10,456 --> 00:13:12,358 All evil is just humanity. 253 00:13:14,794 --> 00:13:18,664 It's unacceptable, but it's still human. 254 00:13:18,664 --> 00:13:21,801 - I think we create a scenario for ourselves 255 00:13:21,801 --> 00:13:24,637 that enables us to carry out something horrible. 256 00:13:24,637 --> 00:13:26,806 - You know, history is replete 257 00:13:26,806 --> 00:13:32,211 with horrible acts of violence, and cruelty. 258 00:13:32,211 --> 00:13:33,879 And we all are capable. 259 00:13:34,780 --> 00:13:37,516 I think we like to call things evil, 260 00:13:37,516 --> 00:13:39,518 because we like to pretend that we're not, but we are. 261 00:13:46,425 --> 00:13:48,460 - He works at it hard, 262 00:13:48,460 --> 00:13:50,796 and so that's, I really appreciate that. 263 00:13:50,796 --> 00:13:54,567 - So when you're playing something like that, 264 00:13:54,567 --> 00:13:57,837 you're just using that part of yourself. 265 00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:01,540 You don't actually kill anybody, but you do intend to. 266 00:14:01,540 --> 00:14:03,676 Give me the boy and I'll let you live! 267 00:14:03,676 --> 00:14:07,479 Do you hear me? Give me the boy! 268 00:14:07,479 --> 00:14:08,881 - I've never been afraid of the doll, 269 00:14:10,182 --> 00:14:11,717 and I'm not afraid of Brad. 270 00:14:11,717 --> 00:14:16,722 - When I met Alex, he was six, I was 25. 271 00:14:16,722 --> 00:14:20,392 It's just a weird context to meet some, you know, 272 00:14:20,392 --> 00:14:24,363 to meet a child in a professional context 273 00:14:24,363 --> 00:14:25,865 where you're colleagues. 274 00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:28,467 - I don't remember much else about being six, 275 00:14:28,467 --> 00:14:29,401 but I remember being in the film. 276 00:14:29,401 --> 00:14:31,570 And I remember a lot of things 277 00:14:31,570 --> 00:14:33,639 about making it and behind the scenes. 278 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:35,875 - He was you know, just this little like actor, 279 00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:39,612 who sometimes felt like my boss in a weird way. 280 00:14:39,612 --> 00:14:42,414 - I mean, being a child actor 281 00:14:42,414 --> 00:14:46,619 is an interesting situation for sure. 282 00:14:46,619 --> 00:14:48,687 'Cause you're given a lot of the responsibility of an adult. 283 00:14:48,687 --> 00:14:50,422 - He never directed me when I was younger. 284 00:14:50,422 --> 00:14:51,590 He was just the writer. 285 00:14:51,590 --> 00:14:53,659 I idolized Don when I was a kid. 286 00:14:53,659 --> 00:14:56,328 - In addition to being a good actor, 287 00:14:56,328 --> 00:14:58,430 he's a really smart guy. 288 00:14:58,430 --> 00:14:59,598 - And I was a bright kid. 289 00:14:59,598 --> 00:15:01,700 I wasn't like a kid that was just like, 290 00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:03,769 "Okay, get in front of the camera, Johnny, and now do this." 291 00:15:03,769 --> 00:15:05,738 I had the entire script memorized. 292 00:15:05,738 --> 00:15:07,539 I knew everybody's lines, all my lines, 293 00:15:07,539 --> 00:15:08,807 all everybody else's lines. 294 00:15:08,807 --> 00:15:11,410 - It's just so funny seeing a seven-year-old, 295 00:15:11,410 --> 00:15:12,645 like "We need to go over this scene. 296 00:15:12,645 --> 00:15:14,513 I don't like like this dialogue. 297 00:15:14,513 --> 00:15:16,715 I don't know if this line works." 298 00:15:16,715 --> 00:15:17,983 - There's just something really funny 299 00:15:17,983 --> 00:15:22,354 about a child cursing too, that's so upsetting. 300 00:15:22,354 --> 00:15:24,490 But when he's like. 301 00:15:24,490 --> 00:15:26,659 - He said, Aunt Maggie was a real bitch, 302 00:15:26,659 --> 00:15:28,661 and got what she deserved. 303 00:15:28,661 --> 00:15:30,629 - I showed it to my boyfriend for the first time. 304 00:15:30,629 --> 00:15:31,664 He was like, "Why is that kid saying that?" 305 00:15:31,664 --> 00:15:34,400 I'm like, "It's not him, it's the doll! 306 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,468 It's Chucky. It's not his fault!" 307 00:15:36,468 --> 00:15:38,337 - I had never seen anything like that. 308 00:15:38,337 --> 00:15:41,573 And anytime a movie uses a kid, 309 00:15:41,573 --> 00:15:44,543 I am on another level of frightened. 310 00:15:44,543 --> 00:15:47,546 - By day children imagine and pretend. 311 00:15:47,546 --> 00:15:49,715 By night children have the darkest of imaginations. 312 00:15:49,715 --> 00:15:51,383 - That's kind of one of the cool things 313 00:15:51,383 --> 00:15:52,718 about having a child actor, 314 00:15:52,718 --> 00:15:55,521 like, especially in "Child's Play," you know? 315 00:15:55,521 --> 00:15:57,723 Because there is that sort of innocence 316 00:15:57,723 --> 00:16:00,492 and that quality of they're not putting on a front. 317 00:16:00,492 --> 00:16:03,495 They're not putting on a certain demeanor. 318 00:16:03,495 --> 00:16:05,864 They're just being very truthful. 319 00:16:05,864 --> 00:16:07,933 - You know, the beauty and then the dark side 320 00:16:07,933 --> 00:16:11,737 of what the character goes through, loss, separation. 321 00:16:11,737 --> 00:16:14,540 It's an important part of childhood. 322 00:16:14,540 --> 00:16:15,774 And I think that's why Don's script originally appealed 323 00:16:15,774 --> 00:16:18,644 to me because here was this child 324 00:16:18,644 --> 00:16:20,479 that was saying, "My doll's come to life 325 00:16:20,479 --> 00:16:22,147 and has spoken to me." 326 00:16:22,147 --> 00:16:23,682 - Andy stop it. 327 00:16:23,682 --> 00:16:26,485 You know perfectly well that you're making this up. 328 00:16:26,485 --> 00:16:28,721 - And one by one people around him start dying. 329 00:16:28,721 --> 00:16:30,789 - And sometimes, especially in horror films, 330 00:16:30,789 --> 00:16:35,661 I feel like that gives one of the most jarring reactions. 331 00:16:35,661 --> 00:16:37,796 - That crying scene that I did in the first one, 332 00:16:37,796 --> 00:16:41,567 where Andy breaks down and is scared for his life 333 00:16:41,567 --> 00:16:43,635 that Chucky's coming to kill him.. 334 00:16:43,635 --> 00:16:46,538 - After Chucky has murdered several people, 335 00:16:46,538 --> 00:16:49,575 Andy is taken to a mental institution as a suspect. 336 00:16:49,575 --> 00:16:51,377 - It's like the little boy that cried wolf, 337 00:16:51,377 --> 00:16:52,811 except he's telling the truth. 338 00:16:52,811 --> 00:16:56,582 And it's so insane that no one would believe him 339 00:16:56,582 --> 00:16:58,384 and he's separated from his mother. 340 00:16:58,384 --> 00:16:59,618 - Meanwhile, Chucky is trying 341 00:16:59,618 --> 00:17:02,554 to take over Andy's body and soul. 342 00:17:02,554 --> 00:17:04,823 - He's locked up, but he like slides down the chair. 343 00:17:04,823 --> 00:17:06,558 And he's crying, 'cause Chucky's coming after him, 344 00:17:06,558 --> 00:17:07,726 and they don't believe him. 345 00:17:07,726 --> 00:17:10,629 - I was so dreading that scene to begin with. 346 00:17:10,629 --> 00:17:12,398 Like I was just really dreading it, 347 00:17:12,398 --> 00:17:13,766 because it was a crying scene. 348 00:17:13,766 --> 00:17:16,702 - I think that as a kid too, you hate crying on camera, 349 00:17:16,702 --> 00:17:17,870 because you just wanna have fun. 350 00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:20,439 And now as an adult, I'm like, when can I cry? 351 00:17:20,439 --> 00:17:22,574 - When it finally came time to do it, 352 00:17:22,574 --> 00:17:25,411 I just kind of let loose and was crying. 353 00:17:25,411 --> 00:17:28,213 Please don't leave me, please. 354 00:17:32,551 --> 00:17:35,254 - I legit, am like, that poor kid. 355 00:17:35,254 --> 00:17:36,655 He's about to get got. 356 00:17:36,655 --> 00:17:38,524 - There are people who have said it's, 357 00:17:38,524 --> 00:17:40,726 you could just kick the doll, it's not scary. 358 00:17:40,726 --> 00:17:42,628 And I never understand that. 359 00:17:42,628 --> 00:17:45,364 - This little toy, how scary can it be? 360 00:17:45,364 --> 00:17:46,565 You could kick him over. 361 00:17:46,565 --> 00:17:48,500 You could throw him across the room. 362 00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:50,736 - I mean, if I walk through my house 363 00:17:50,736 --> 00:17:53,439 and a doll came to life, I'd probably just have 364 00:17:53,439 --> 00:17:54,706 a heart attack and die. 365 00:17:54,706 --> 00:17:56,909 I mean, that's really scary. 366 00:17:56,909 --> 00:17:59,278 - I think that's why audiences embrace the character, 367 00:17:59,278 --> 00:18:01,413 'cause he is an underdog. 368 00:18:01,413 --> 00:18:02,848 You know, he is resilient. 369 00:18:02,848 --> 00:18:07,252 He can overcome his shortcomings and do the job. 370 00:18:11,023 --> 00:18:13,559 - I had just gotten in the Writer's Guild, 371 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:15,627 and there was a strike, 372 00:18:15,627 --> 00:18:18,597 so I was not able to be on the set for "Child's Play" one. 373 00:18:18,597 --> 00:18:21,467 But then when the movie was in post 374 00:18:21,467 --> 00:18:23,702 and they were editing David very graciously, 375 00:18:23,702 --> 00:18:24,736 'cause he didn't have to do this, 376 00:18:24,736 --> 00:18:27,539 and a lot of producers wouldn't do it, 377 00:18:27,539 --> 00:18:29,641 invited me into the editing room 378 00:18:29,641 --> 00:18:30,876 just to see what they were doing. 379 00:18:30,876 --> 00:18:33,579 And just to get my opinion for what it was worth. 380 00:18:33,579 --> 00:18:36,782 - It's funny because what Don was so taken by, 381 00:18:36,782 --> 00:18:38,650 and when Liz and I were in London, 382 00:18:38,650 --> 00:18:41,553 and I bought that book on Victorian dollhouse murders, 383 00:18:41,553 --> 00:18:43,555 there's just something in us, people 384 00:18:43,555 --> 00:18:44,923 that are frightened of dolls. 385 00:18:44,923 --> 00:18:47,559 And people say all the time, "I'm frightened of dolls." 386 00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:49,294 - Because there's something about an inanimate object 387 00:18:49,294 --> 00:18:50,896 that's like, so 388 00:18:52,498 --> 00:18:54,500 no emotion, but like just a smile. 389 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:57,569 - This like frozen expression 390 00:18:57,569 --> 00:19:01,373 that leaves your imagination room 391 00:19:01,373 --> 00:19:03,542 to do anything and go anywhere. 392 00:19:03,542 --> 00:19:06,645 - I do think that it's the idea of bringing 393 00:19:06,645 --> 00:19:11,450 the effigy of human form to life, that shouldn't be. 394 00:19:11,450 --> 00:19:12,851 - But that was really nice of him. 395 00:19:12,851 --> 00:19:17,556 And I think it was really at that point that we bonded, 396 00:19:17,556 --> 00:19:20,659 not just as colleagues, but as friends. 397 00:19:20,659 --> 00:19:24,596 And you know, and then happily the movie was successful, 398 00:19:24,596 --> 00:19:25,898 and they wanted to do a sequel. 399 00:19:25,898 --> 00:19:28,433 - In fact, if it was a movie it would take three 400 00:19:28,433 --> 00:19:30,802 or four sequels just to do it justice. 401 00:19:49,821 --> 00:19:52,758 - I was so proud of the work that everybody did, 402 00:19:52,758 --> 00:19:56,695 but I never dreamed there would be a sequel. 403 00:19:56,695 --> 00:19:58,664 I didn't even think like that. 404 00:19:58,664 --> 00:20:00,766 It was the movie we were gonna do and then move on. 405 00:20:00,766 --> 00:20:02,534 - You know, and so we did two movies back 406 00:20:02,534 --> 00:20:04,536 to back, basically. 407 00:20:04,536 --> 00:20:06,805 - I brought Don back on the second film. 408 00:20:06,805 --> 00:20:10,375 Yes, he was rewritten by John Lafia on the first film, 409 00:20:10,375 --> 00:20:12,578 and then Tom Holland after that. 410 00:20:12,578 --> 00:20:16,582 But he has always had a first position writer's credit 411 00:20:16,582 --> 00:20:18,750 on 30 years of Chucky. 412 00:20:18,750 --> 00:20:21,520 - In "Child's Play 2" Andy Barclay is sent 413 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,555 to live with foster parents, 414 00:20:23,555 --> 00:20:25,757 played by Jenny Agutter and Gerrit Graham. 415 00:20:25,757 --> 00:20:27,593 And of course they don't believe him 416 00:20:27,593 --> 00:20:29,661 that this doll has been haunting him 417 00:20:29,661 --> 00:20:31,697 for so much of his young life. 418 00:20:31,697 --> 00:20:35,200 And they soon wind up risking Chucky's wrath. 419 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:35,834 - I've had it! 420 00:20:38,237 --> 00:20:40,172 But you've got to kill him! 421 00:20:40,172 --> 00:20:41,640 Andy! 422 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,542 - I don't have any favorite individual memories 423 00:20:43,542 --> 00:20:45,644 from that set because I was, 424 00:20:45,644 --> 00:20:48,513 the entire experience was so exciting for me. 425 00:20:48,513 --> 00:20:51,683 I was so unbelievably happy to be there. 426 00:20:51,683 --> 00:20:53,885 - This was really the big, big production. 427 00:20:53,885 --> 00:20:56,421 So I really looked up to all those people when I was a kid. 428 00:20:56,421 --> 00:20:58,557 And I had a lifetime of remembering 429 00:20:58,557 --> 00:20:59,725 that I looked up to them. 430 00:20:59,725 --> 00:21:01,560 - He was seven and I was 24. 431 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,496 So while I was like a big sister to him then. 432 00:21:04,496 --> 00:21:05,897 And he has since told me that I was 433 00:21:05,897 --> 00:21:08,433 the person he remembers being nicest to him then. 434 00:21:08,433 --> 00:21:09,768 He really felt like I was his big sister. 435 00:21:09,768 --> 00:21:12,671 - Christine, for example, you know, 436 00:21:12,671 --> 00:21:14,740 she really feels like my older sister. 437 00:21:14,740 --> 00:21:16,808 - It's a relationship that's rarely explored 438 00:21:16,808 --> 00:21:18,944 in horror movies or movies in general 439 00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:21,480 is like the foster sibling relationship. 440 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,881 He is a little messed up from his experience, 441 00:21:22,881 --> 00:21:27,486 but he has this older sibling he attaches onto real fast. 442 00:21:27,486 --> 00:21:29,621 She treats him as an equal and she's like, 443 00:21:29,621 --> 00:21:31,857 "Yep, life's messed up, but I'll help you out." 444 00:21:31,857 --> 00:21:33,792 And she goes to bat for him. It's really nice. 445 00:21:33,792 --> 00:21:35,727 - I auditioned the way everyone does. 446 00:21:35,727 --> 00:21:37,596 I went to a, you know, my agent got me an appointment, 447 00:21:37,596 --> 00:21:38,764 and I went and I read. 448 00:21:38,764 --> 00:21:41,566 My stock and trade at the time was 449 00:21:41,566 --> 00:21:42,868 the offbeat misunderstood, tough chick without a gold, 450 00:21:42,868 --> 00:21:45,437 which was my stock and trade for many, many years. 451 00:21:45,437 --> 00:21:47,472 And I didn't get it. 452 00:21:47,472 --> 00:21:49,608 But I got an episode of "21 Jump Street" 453 00:21:49,608 --> 00:21:50,676 that I went and did. 454 00:21:50,676 --> 00:21:51,777 And then I came back from that. 455 00:21:51,777 --> 00:21:53,378 And the day I came back from "Jumpstreet," 456 00:21:53,378 --> 00:21:54,780 I got an episode of the then "Baywatch." 457 00:21:54,780 --> 00:21:57,516 And I was working and I felt really empowered. 458 00:21:57,516 --> 00:21:59,818 They hadn't found the Kyle yet, 459 00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:02,287 and so they decided to go back and read the girls 460 00:22:02,287 --> 00:22:03,889 that had been near misses. 461 00:22:03,889 --> 00:22:06,792 And I went back and I went back with attitude though. 462 00:22:06,792 --> 00:22:08,760 I had a call time, I didn't have time to waste. 463 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,695 I had to get in and out of there, 464 00:22:09,695 --> 00:22:10,729 and get my ass to the beach, 465 00:22:10,729 --> 00:22:12,964 and do a whole day on "Baywatch." 466 00:22:12,964 --> 00:22:16,535 My attitude shifted enormously for that second audition. 467 00:22:16,535 --> 00:22:18,603 And I think that's why I got it. 468 00:22:18,603 --> 00:22:20,505 That black leather hat that I'm wearing, it's my hat. 469 00:22:20,505 --> 00:22:21,473 I've worn it in a ton of stuff. 470 00:22:21,473 --> 00:22:23,342 I wore it in the old "90210." 471 00:22:23,342 --> 00:22:24,743 I wore it in the new "90210." 472 00:22:24,743 --> 00:22:27,412 I wore it in the old Chucky and the new Chucky. 473 00:22:27,412 --> 00:22:28,780 It's a single most important piece 474 00:22:28,780 --> 00:22:31,583 of memorabilia from my career that I have. 475 00:22:31,583 --> 00:22:33,585 And it's weird 'cause I owned it before I was an actor. 476 00:22:33,585 --> 00:22:36,455 - They made a big maze out of the empty Chucky boxes. 477 00:22:36,455 --> 00:22:37,656 It was a lot of fun. 478 00:22:37,656 --> 00:22:40,258 And I remember, you know, melting down Chucky 479 00:22:40,258 --> 00:22:41,660 with that hot wax. 480 00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:43,362 It wasn't really hot, but it looked hot. 481 00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:44,696 - And then that last sequence 482 00:22:44,696 --> 00:22:47,766 in the toy factory is just incredible. 483 00:22:47,766 --> 00:22:50,535 Like that's, when you see a movie about a killer toy, 484 00:22:50,535 --> 00:22:52,704 you want it to end in a toy factory. 485 00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:56,274 - All those scenes were action packed parts of the film, 486 00:22:56,274 --> 00:22:57,709 but also time consuming. 487 00:22:57,709 --> 00:23:01,613 Because if it's more demanding of us physically, 488 00:23:01,613 --> 00:23:03,615 it's most likely more demanding of Chucky, 489 00:23:03,615 --> 00:23:06,718 and that means a lot of extra puppeteer work. 490 00:23:06,718 --> 00:23:09,454 - It takes all nine puppeteers to work him. 491 00:23:09,454 --> 00:23:12,290 We got a guy on legs, a guy on one arm, 492 00:23:12,290 --> 00:23:13,692 a guy on another arm. 493 00:23:13,692 --> 00:23:15,961 Three facial puppeteers working the lips, 494 00:23:15,961 --> 00:23:18,830 the brows, the eyes, a puppeteer on the head and body. 495 00:23:22,434 --> 00:23:24,469 - Andy! Hurry up he's right behind you! 496 00:23:24,469 --> 00:23:27,773 You bastard! 497 00:23:27,773 --> 00:23:30,275 - You know, this small army of technicians were needed 498 00:23:30,275 --> 00:23:31,510 to bring Chucky to life. 499 00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:33,845 - It's really sort of an animated movie. 500 00:23:33,845 --> 00:23:36,381 You know, it's shot in live action and stuff, 501 00:23:36,381 --> 00:23:38,417 but he was completely animated 502 00:23:38,417 --> 00:23:40,719 just in a sort of a puppet sense. 503 00:23:40,719 --> 00:23:42,754 - And Kevin rounded up some of the best of, 504 00:23:42,754 --> 00:23:44,856 you know, people in the business. 505 00:23:44,856 --> 00:23:49,461 - The biggest challenge, I think again, for us, 506 00:23:49,461 --> 00:23:50,829 the crew was to get, and the puppeteers, 507 00:23:50,829 --> 00:23:53,765 was to get the doll to walk, to give a convincing walk. 508 00:23:53,765 --> 00:23:58,570 - You've been very naughty, Miss Kettlewell. 509 00:23:58,570 --> 00:24:00,539 - Now I consider Kevin a friend, 510 00:24:00,539 --> 00:24:01,773 but then he was just sort of like everybody there 511 00:24:01,773 --> 00:24:03,742 that was above me, they were gods. 512 00:24:03,742 --> 00:24:06,645 - And the puppeteering that went into bringing Chucky 513 00:24:06,645 --> 00:24:09,681 to life to do the impossible, and they did it. 514 00:24:09,681 --> 00:24:12,317 - In the first film we used a little person 515 00:24:12,317 --> 00:24:14,386 and cut between the two. 516 00:24:14,386 --> 00:24:15,587 Kevin has now made it possible 517 00:24:15,587 --> 00:24:17,255 that we don't need a little person at all. 518 00:24:22,027 --> 00:24:25,430 - I was just really enamored of being there. 519 00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:26,832 Especially when we first started, 520 00:24:26,832 --> 00:24:28,800 the first half of the schedule was on the lot at Universal. 521 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,702 And it was on a stage that had, at the time, 522 00:24:30,702 --> 00:24:32,671 the oldest existing set in the world. 523 00:24:32,671 --> 00:24:34,573 It was the opera house from 524 00:24:34,573 --> 00:24:36,308 the original "Phantom of the Opera" 525 00:24:36,308 --> 00:24:37,709 which has since burned down. 526 00:24:37,709 --> 00:24:39,511 But being on the Universal lot where 527 00:24:39,511 --> 00:24:41,713 the Universal monsters were born, 528 00:24:41,713 --> 00:24:43,548 and being a working actress is just, 529 00:24:43,548 --> 00:24:44,683 you really feel like an actor. 530 00:24:44,683 --> 00:24:46,585 You really feel like you're part of 531 00:24:46,585 --> 00:24:48,553 that historic community when you're on one 532 00:24:48,553 --> 00:24:51,723 of those old lots, they're so magical. 533 00:24:51,723 --> 00:24:56,228 - Please, I was only playing. 534 00:24:57,295 --> 00:24:59,664 No! 535 00:25:11,843 --> 00:25:14,679 - "Child's Play 2" and three were kind of shot back-to-back. 536 00:25:14,679 --> 00:25:16,715 I think they were rushed into production. 537 00:25:16,715 --> 00:25:18,817 They came out less than a year apart. 538 00:25:18,817 --> 00:25:22,387 - They had Justin Whalin who I've never met to this day. 539 00:25:22,387 --> 00:25:24,389 But they had him play Andy. 540 00:25:24,389 --> 00:25:25,690 - No offense to Justin Whalin, 541 00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:28,260 but you know, I was so attached to Alex who 542 00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:30,195 is the most adorable kid. 543 00:25:30,195 --> 00:25:31,730 Yeah, to have him recast. 544 00:25:31,730 --> 00:25:33,565 I understand they wanted to age him up for story purposes. 545 00:25:33,565 --> 00:25:35,367 - Because I was not old enough. 546 00:25:35,367 --> 00:25:37,569 I was only 10 at the time. 547 00:25:37,569 --> 00:25:40,338 They wanted him to be 16 and have a girlfriend, 548 00:25:40,338 --> 00:25:41,740 and be in military school. 549 00:25:41,740 --> 00:25:43,775 - And every project that I've ever made, 550 00:25:43,775 --> 00:25:45,877 if you go through my whole filmography, 551 00:25:45,877 --> 00:25:49,648 they all deal with children, whether it's "Hocus Pocus," 552 00:25:49,648 --> 00:25:52,217 whether it's "An American Tail" and a little Jewish mouse, 553 00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:52,884 but they're all kids. 554 00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:55,520 - When I heard that we were making a third one, 555 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,789 I assumed that I would be in it. 556 00:25:57,789 --> 00:26:00,759 As a 10-year-old that was a bit of a tough pill to swallow. 557 00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:04,262 - To Andy Barclay and Chucky, those are the projects 558 00:26:04,262 --> 00:26:05,564 that I'm attracted to, 559 00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:07,666 the exploration of childhood is everything to me. 560 00:26:07,666 --> 00:26:10,802 To me, it forms who we are as people. 561 00:26:10,802 --> 00:26:13,572 - What happens to real people in real life 562 00:26:13,572 --> 00:26:16,474 when they have violence happen? 563 00:26:16,474 --> 00:26:17,309 When you're a child, I mean, you would, 564 00:26:17,309 --> 00:26:18,743 it would screw you up. 565 00:26:18,743 --> 00:26:20,512 - Somehow I saw it though, when it came out. 566 00:26:20,512 --> 00:26:22,614 And you know, I thought, yeah, okay. 567 00:26:22,614 --> 00:26:24,783 Maybe I'll look like that when I'm 16. I don't know. 568 00:26:24,783 --> 00:26:27,686 I think he did a fine job. The movie was fun. 569 00:26:27,686 --> 00:26:32,457 The one liners were becoming a little more prominent. 570 00:26:33,458 --> 00:26:36,695 Don't fuck with the Chuck. 571 00:26:36,695 --> 00:26:38,697 - It's got, you know, really good kills in it. 572 00:26:38,697 --> 00:26:40,832 - Just how sadistic it is to make 573 00:26:40,832 --> 00:26:43,468 the kids kill each other, instead of him doing the work, 574 00:26:43,468 --> 00:26:44,603 by replacing those paintballs 575 00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,404 with bullets and live ammunition. 576 00:26:46,404 --> 00:26:47,706 That's nuts. 577 00:26:47,706 --> 00:26:50,542 - And Chucky's death scene is spectacular in that film. 578 00:26:57,582 --> 00:27:00,185 - And then they end up killing Chucky in the end. 579 00:27:00,185 --> 00:27:01,219 Or do they? 580 00:27:16,568 --> 00:27:18,937 - And we begin "Bride of Chucky," 581 00:27:18,937 --> 00:27:22,273 with his ex-girlfriend, Tiffany, stitching him back together 582 00:27:22,273 --> 00:27:23,608 and resurrecting him. 583 00:27:23,608 --> 00:27:26,244 Ade Due Damballa 584 00:27:26,244 --> 00:27:27,912 - Awake! 585 00:27:27,912 --> 00:27:31,549 - When I thought of that character with "Bride of Chucky," 586 00:27:31,549 --> 00:27:33,418 I knew that, you know, it needed to be a two-hander. 587 00:27:34,719 --> 00:27:38,523 Awake. Awake, awake, awake! 588 00:27:38,523 --> 00:27:40,692 - This needed to be a movie about a relationship 589 00:27:40,692 --> 00:27:42,460 between these two characters. 590 00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:44,396 And so the "Bride of Chucky" needed 591 00:27:44,396 --> 00:27:45,830 to be very different from Chucky. 592 00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:48,700 - You look like Martha Stewart with that thing. 593 00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:51,302 - Who the fuck is Martha Stewart? 594 00:27:51,302 --> 00:27:52,804 - My idol. 595 00:27:52,804 --> 00:27:54,606 - They tried something entirely new with "Bride" 596 00:27:54,606 --> 00:27:56,641 and really changed it up. 597 00:27:56,641 --> 00:28:00,478 - It very much was the perfect adjustment 598 00:28:00,478 --> 00:28:03,815 of changing the way Chucky was. 599 00:28:03,815 --> 00:28:05,550 That those movies were into the way they needed 600 00:28:05,550 --> 00:28:07,452 to be for that era. 601 00:28:07,452 --> 00:28:09,454 - Introduced Tiffany who just revitalizes 602 00:28:09,454 --> 00:28:10,689 the series, I think. 603 00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:12,524 - You know, Chucky is kind of like 604 00:28:12,524 --> 00:28:14,726 more straightforwardly blood thirsty. 605 00:28:14,726 --> 00:28:17,562 Whereas Tiffany, you know, she has 606 00:28:17,562 --> 00:28:20,532 some conventional wants in her life. 607 00:28:20,532 --> 00:28:22,434 She wants love. She wants affection. 608 00:28:22,434 --> 00:28:23,535 She wants to be understood. 609 00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:26,337 - Oh, that's so romantic. 610 00:28:26,337 --> 00:28:28,673 - I give them six months. 611 00:28:28,673 --> 00:28:30,575 - And Tiffany is based on my friend Ronna. 612 00:28:30,575 --> 00:28:32,410 Tiffany looks just like Ronna. 613 00:28:32,410 --> 00:28:33,545 That's how those two came to be. 614 00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:35,413 Which of course, is Jennifer Tilly. 615 00:28:35,413 --> 00:28:37,082 - David Kirschner, I adore him. 616 00:28:37,082 --> 00:28:38,349 He's the one that came to me at 617 00:28:38,349 --> 00:28:40,452 the very beginning when I was sort of, 618 00:28:40,452 --> 00:28:41,886 I was sort of like digging in my heels. 619 00:28:41,886 --> 00:28:43,922 Like, I don't know if I wanna do a Chucky movie. 620 00:28:43,922 --> 00:28:46,458 And I didn't know anything about Chucky movies at the time. 621 00:28:46,458 --> 00:28:48,660 But he said, "I want to meet you." 622 00:28:48,660 --> 00:28:50,528 He did a whole presentation. 623 00:28:50,528 --> 00:28:52,464 We went to the Bel Air hotel. 624 00:28:52,464 --> 00:28:54,032 He had the Chucky doll in the trunk. 625 00:28:54,032 --> 00:28:57,736 He brought it out very reverentially like, this is Chucky. 626 00:28:57,736 --> 00:29:00,572 Like he was introducing me to Chucky. 627 00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:02,340 - I didn't know Jennifer Tilly before that, 628 00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:03,708 but I had written it for her. 629 00:29:03,708 --> 00:29:05,543 And then, you know, and just well of course, 630 00:29:05,543 --> 00:29:06,644 that's not gonna work out, 631 00:29:06,644 --> 00:29:08,313 'cause things like that rarely work out. 632 00:29:08,313 --> 00:29:09,681 But then she wanted to do it. 633 00:29:09,681 --> 00:29:11,783 - I think he felt like once I saw the Chucky doll, 634 00:29:11,783 --> 00:29:13,685 and once I heard what Chucky was all about, 635 00:29:13,685 --> 00:29:15,553 of course I would fall in love with 636 00:29:15,553 --> 00:29:17,388 the whole Chucky franchise and come on board. 637 00:29:17,388 --> 00:29:18,623 Which I actually did. 638 00:29:18,623 --> 00:29:20,425 He did a very good job of selling me on it. 639 00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:22,727 - After having done three sort 640 00:29:22,727 --> 00:29:26,498 of straightforward, relatively conventional horror movies, 641 00:29:26,498 --> 00:29:29,434 that we, you know, reinvented it as a comedy. 642 00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:31,536 And she was a big part of that. 643 00:29:31,536 --> 00:29:34,439 - When slasher series reach their burnout phase, 644 00:29:34,439 --> 00:29:36,574 the creators do one of two things. 645 00:29:36,574 --> 00:29:39,644 They either make the subsequent chapters comedic, 646 00:29:39,644 --> 00:29:41,746 horror comedies, or they play for laughs. 647 00:29:41,746 --> 00:29:44,783 Or they take their killers and put them in outer space. 648 00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:46,684 So in the case of "Bride of Chucky," I was relieved 649 00:29:46,684 --> 00:29:48,553 that they made it more comedic. 650 00:29:48,553 --> 00:29:50,388 - I was really unprepared for, you know, 651 00:29:50,388 --> 00:29:53,658 the humor and the history, 652 00:29:53,658 --> 00:29:56,828 and just the really great writing and great characters. 653 00:29:56,828 --> 00:29:59,664 - The Chucky films were definitely revolutionary 654 00:29:59,664 --> 00:30:01,766 in introducing gay characters. 655 00:30:01,766 --> 00:30:04,636 - It was important to me with these movies 656 00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:06,871 to constantly appeal to that subset. 657 00:30:08,239 --> 00:30:11,209 That has sort of steamrolled over the last, 658 00:30:11,209 --> 00:30:12,477 since "Bride of Chucky"" 659 00:30:12,477 --> 00:30:13,678 is when we started making it pretty gay. 660 00:30:13,678 --> 00:30:15,580 - Don is gay and he's had a lot 661 00:30:15,580 --> 00:30:18,216 of really interesting sympathetic gay characters 662 00:30:18,216 --> 00:30:19,551 in the franchise. 663 00:30:19,551 --> 00:30:20,819 For example, the best friend in the "Bride of Chucky." 664 00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:23,721 - And the Alexis Arquette character and Tiffany. 665 00:30:23,721 --> 00:30:25,657 You know, Jennifer Tilly has always appealed 666 00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:27,425 to a gay audience, probably dating back 667 00:30:27,425 --> 00:30:28,793 to her role in "Bound." 668 00:30:28,793 --> 00:30:31,696 - My favorite scene, sadly, is when I was killed. 669 00:30:31,696 --> 00:30:33,531 It's when Tiffany was in the bathtub. 670 00:30:33,531 --> 00:30:35,667 I thought it was so cinematic. 671 00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:39,437 When I'm watching the "Bride of Frankenstein" 672 00:30:39,437 --> 00:30:40,905 and I'm starting to cry, 673 00:30:40,905 --> 00:30:43,675 'cause I can relate to the "Bride of Frankenstein." 674 00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:45,610 And then Chucky starts walking down the hall 675 00:30:45,610 --> 00:30:47,745 in his little Chucky legs. 676 00:30:47,745 --> 00:30:50,882 And then he throws the TV into the bathtub. 677 00:30:50,882 --> 00:30:53,685 And I'm screaming, and "Bride of Frankenstein" is screaming. 678 00:30:53,685 --> 00:30:56,254 And "Bride of Frankenstein" pops up, and I go under. 679 00:31:03,561 --> 00:31:05,697 it's just so beautifully shot. 680 00:31:05,697 --> 00:31:07,599 - Just the idea that the surging electricity would cause 681 00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:09,667 all these bubbles to waft. 682 00:31:09,667 --> 00:31:11,569 I always just thought that's such a cool image. 683 00:31:11,569 --> 00:31:12,637 - That's what's so brilliant 684 00:31:12,637 --> 00:31:14,672 about Don's creation of that scene. 685 00:31:14,672 --> 00:31:17,408 You have bubbles set against murder. 686 00:31:17,408 --> 00:31:19,677 - It just was special to me, 687 00:31:19,677 --> 00:31:24,582 because I felt like I took a step in confidence as a writer. 688 00:31:24,582 --> 00:31:26,718 I didn't direct that one. I just wrote it. 689 00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:30,755 And the director and cinematographer on that movie 690 00:31:30,755 --> 00:31:33,258 were these amazing Chinese filmmakers, 691 00:31:33,258 --> 00:31:34,692 Ronny Yu and Peter Pau. 692 00:31:34,692 --> 00:31:36,494 And it's like, you would walk on the set every day, 693 00:31:36,494 --> 00:31:38,663 it was just so beautiful. 694 00:31:38,663 --> 00:31:40,565 - I think everybody loves the makeover that she did, 695 00:31:40,565 --> 00:31:41,766 where she was just like your 696 00:31:41,766 --> 00:31:44,002 a run of the mill middle class doll. 697 00:31:44,002 --> 00:31:47,538 And all of a sudden she's putting on black nail polish, 698 00:31:47,538 --> 00:31:50,642 and combat boots and making herself like a real badass. 699 00:31:50,642 --> 00:31:53,878 - She's kind of gorg, and like kind of looks amaze. 700 00:31:53,878 --> 00:31:56,581 If she was like a really cool scene girl in real life, 701 00:31:56,581 --> 00:31:57,548 you know what I mean? 702 00:32:00,585 --> 00:32:03,788 - Barbie, eat your heart out. 703 00:32:03,788 --> 00:32:07,558 - It's probably it's anywhere minimal seven people 704 00:32:07,558 --> 00:32:10,762 but it can take up to eight or nine people per puppet. 705 00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:14,465 - Very complicated coordination. 706 00:32:14,465 --> 00:32:17,335 If you're dealing with just puppet alone, 707 00:32:17,335 --> 00:32:18,670 puppet and puppet, it's easier. 708 00:32:18,670 --> 00:32:21,239 - We did hours, and hours, and hours, 709 00:32:21,239 --> 00:32:23,675 and hours of ADR on that. 710 00:32:23,675 --> 00:32:25,410 - If you had the interaction with between, 711 00:32:25,410 --> 00:32:26,911 you know, human actor 712 00:32:26,911 --> 00:32:30,682 it has to be really figured out early on in advance 713 00:32:30,682 --> 00:32:33,318 and then has to have a lot of rehearsal. 714 00:32:33,318 --> 00:32:34,752 - They set up these two booths, 715 00:32:34,752 --> 00:32:36,654 so when we were doing the lines we could look at each other. 716 00:32:36,654 --> 00:32:38,523 It was really amazing working off of such 717 00:32:38,523 --> 00:32:39,691 a great actor as him. 718 00:32:39,691 --> 00:32:41,726 You know, sometimes I would improvise, 719 00:32:41,726 --> 00:32:43,695 and then he gives something right back. 720 00:32:43,695 --> 00:32:46,397 - She's just really funny. - She brilliant at improv. 721 00:32:46,397 --> 00:32:48,566 Way, I mean, I'm not even close to. 722 00:32:48,566 --> 00:32:49,567 She's in a different class. 723 00:32:49,567 --> 00:32:51,636 - And what does Martha tell you do 724 00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:53,404 when guests drop by for dinner 725 00:32:53,404 --> 00:32:55,206 and you haven't had time to shop? 726 00:32:56,441 --> 00:32:58,643 You improvise. 727 00:32:58,643 --> 00:33:00,511 - Upon discovering where Charles Lee Ray's body 728 00:33:00,511 --> 00:33:02,547 was buried, there's an amulet 729 00:33:02,547 --> 00:33:05,483 that can restore them back to human form. 730 00:33:05,483 --> 00:33:06,884 - All right, let's go. 731 00:33:06,884 --> 00:33:10,521 - Oh, sure. I'll steer and you can work the pedals. 732 00:33:10,521 --> 00:33:12,724 We're dolls, you dope! 733 00:33:12,724 --> 00:33:15,660 - They arrange for Tiffany's neighbor to drive them there. 734 00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:18,796 And they don't know that all the dolls are alive. 735 00:33:18,796 --> 00:33:20,498 - Of course, they don't realize that these dolls 736 00:33:20,498 --> 00:33:22,500 are committing murders along the way. 737 00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,502 Murders which the kids themselves 738 00:33:24,502 --> 00:33:26,871 are then implicated for. 739 00:33:26,871 --> 00:33:29,574 - So in the process, they end up getting married. 740 00:33:29,574 --> 00:33:31,442 - Chucky having a bride, Tifanny, 741 00:33:31,442 --> 00:33:32,844 it sort of humanizes him a little bit. 742 00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:34,746 Because now you can relate to the character. 743 00:33:34,746 --> 00:33:37,482 He's not just like a homicidal little maniac. 744 00:33:37,482 --> 00:33:39,584 He has a lot of problems that most men have. 745 00:33:39,584 --> 00:33:41,786 You know, like a nagging girlfriend 746 00:33:41,786 --> 00:33:43,488 that complains she's not getting enough sex. 747 00:33:43,488 --> 00:33:45,456 - The love stuff 748 00:33:45,456 --> 00:33:49,327 between Chucky and Tiffany, both as dolls, 749 00:33:49,327 --> 00:33:51,929 was just so cute. 750 00:33:53,231 --> 00:33:54,699 And fun. 751 00:33:54,699 --> 00:33:56,667 - But then you had sex in it, which was good. 752 00:33:56,667 --> 00:33:58,336 That the "Bride of Chucky" had actually 753 00:33:58,336 --> 00:34:00,338 added sex to horror. 754 00:34:00,338 --> 00:34:03,441 You never, like Godzilla didn't have sex. 755 00:34:03,441 --> 00:34:06,444 Frankenstein didn't jerk off. 756 00:34:06,444 --> 00:34:07,779 We didn't have that, really. 757 00:34:07,779 --> 00:34:11,249 We didn't have the monsters having a sex life, 758 00:34:11,249 --> 00:34:12,850 where Chucky did. 759 00:34:12,850 --> 00:34:16,487 - And some of the best stuff were totally improv. 760 00:34:16,487 --> 00:34:18,389 "You generally wear prophylactics?" 761 00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:21,092 "Tiff, I am a fucking rubber." 762 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:23,161 Have I got a rubber? 763 00:34:23,161 --> 00:34:24,262 Yeah. 764 00:34:24,262 --> 00:34:25,463 Tiff. 765 00:34:25,463 --> 00:34:26,364 - What? - Look at me! 766 00:34:26,364 --> 00:34:27,765 I'm all rubber! 767 00:34:27,765 --> 00:34:29,534 - Brad, he was looking at me all the time, 768 00:34:29,534 --> 00:34:30,735 'cause he was doing the lines. 769 00:34:30,735 --> 00:34:33,604 And at the end of the movie when my character died, 770 00:34:33,604 --> 00:34:36,541 I looked over there and tears were streaming down his face. 771 00:34:36,541 --> 00:34:38,309 He was so sad. 772 00:34:38,309 --> 00:34:39,744 And then I started crying too. 773 00:34:39,744 --> 00:34:41,679 And then afterwards he said to Don, 774 00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,449 "How come I haven't had a wife sooner?" 775 00:34:44,449 --> 00:34:47,218 - And they end up having a baby. 776 00:35:02,667 --> 00:35:04,602 So what led you to take 777 00:35:04,602 --> 00:35:06,537 on Tony Gardner as head of the effects department 778 00:35:06,537 --> 00:35:08,439 in "Seed" going forward? 779 00:35:08,439 --> 00:35:09,841 Why was there that switch? 780 00:35:09,841 --> 00:35:12,743 - Well, what happened was that Kevin Yagher had worked 781 00:35:12,743 --> 00:35:14,245 with us on the first four films. 782 00:35:14,245 --> 00:35:15,746 Done a great job. 783 00:35:15,746 --> 00:35:18,382 His wife is Catherine Hicks who played 784 00:35:18,382 --> 00:35:19,417 the mom in the first film. 785 00:35:19,417 --> 00:35:20,485 All was great. 786 00:35:20,485 --> 00:35:22,453 And then when we were going 787 00:35:22,453 --> 00:35:24,422 to make our fifth film, Universal could 788 00:35:24,422 --> 00:35:25,590 not make the deal with him. 789 00:35:25,590 --> 00:35:27,525 They were just too far apart. 790 00:35:27,525 --> 00:35:29,627 We were cutting our budget very far back. 791 00:35:29,627 --> 00:35:33,598 - As your slasher series go on each subsequent film 792 00:35:33,598 --> 00:35:35,500 makes less than the one before it. 793 00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:37,869 So there's diminishing returns. 794 00:35:37,869 --> 00:35:42,473 So yeah, the money men tend to slash the budget. 795 00:35:42,473 --> 00:35:45,443 - And they wouldn't budge. 796 00:35:45,443 --> 00:35:46,744 And they were unfair to someone 797 00:35:46,744 --> 00:35:48,913 that had been really loyal and had done a great job. 798 00:35:48,913 --> 00:35:51,782 - I loved what Tony Gardner brought to the series as well. 799 00:35:51,782 --> 00:35:53,784 - Then there was the opportunity to meet him. 800 00:35:53,784 --> 00:35:56,587 And because we had done "Hocus Pocus" together, 801 00:35:56,587 --> 00:35:59,790 to call him and say, "Are you interested in doing this? 802 00:35:59,790 --> 00:36:01,792 It's Chucky, you'd be taking over for Kevin." 803 00:36:01,792 --> 00:36:04,662 And I think he was a little hesitant of that. 804 00:36:04,662 --> 00:36:07,265 He's a loyal person and loyal to his craft. 805 00:36:07,265 --> 00:36:08,199 But I said, you know, 806 00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:09,834 "If it's not you it's gonna be somebody. 807 00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:12,570 And you did such a great job on 'Hocus.' 808 00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:13,704 Would you consider this?" 809 00:36:13,704 --> 00:36:15,640 Have you ever done anything like this?" 810 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,774 And he said, "Well, not bring a doll to life, 811 00:36:16,774 --> 00:36:18,409 but I've done plenty of other things, 812 00:36:18,409 --> 00:36:19,710 bringing things to life." 813 00:36:19,710 --> 00:36:22,413 So Don and I went out and met with him. 814 00:36:22,413 --> 00:36:23,814 - I like working with smart people, 815 00:36:23,814 --> 00:36:27,351 because they're allies when you're making it together, 816 00:36:27,351 --> 00:36:28,819 as he definitely was. 817 00:36:28,819 --> 00:36:31,789 - And it's been this partnership ever since. 818 00:36:31,789 --> 00:36:34,625 - Chucky and the puppeteers, you all have 819 00:36:34,625 --> 00:36:37,828 to like descend together into this fantasy. 820 00:36:37,828 --> 00:36:41,632 We all have to go into this realm of this place 821 00:36:41,632 --> 00:36:43,501 that we've created and make it believable. 822 00:36:43,501 --> 00:36:44,502 - It's queued up. 823 00:36:46,771 --> 00:36:50,942 - What? Oh, sorry. You were saying. 824 00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:53,277 That's a cut. 825 00:36:53,277 --> 00:36:54,478 Tony, you guys happy? 826 00:36:54,478 --> 00:36:55,446 Yeah, let's go with that. 827 00:36:55,446 --> 00:36:57,815 - I find a thrill in making something 828 00:36:57,815 --> 00:37:02,119 that isn't real be perceived as real to somebody else. 829 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,789 It was sort of an odd start for us, 830 00:37:04,789 --> 00:37:07,792 because we were supposed to copy Kevin Yagher's puppets. 831 00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:11,796 But we had no resources from Universal or from Kevin. 832 00:37:11,796 --> 00:37:15,666 All we had to go from VHS copies of the movie. 833 00:37:15,666 --> 00:37:18,669 We would freeze the VHS copy of the movie 834 00:37:18,669 --> 00:37:21,706 and take stills off of the TV. 835 00:37:21,706 --> 00:37:23,674 And that was our point of reference. 836 00:37:23,674 --> 00:37:26,577 We had like three months to build everything. 837 00:37:26,577 --> 00:37:29,647 And then we were off to Romania and right into it. 838 00:37:29,647 --> 00:37:32,650 We had a whole team of puppeteers come in 839 00:37:32,650 --> 00:37:34,685 from England to support us. 840 00:37:34,685 --> 00:37:37,488 There were five of us from the United States, 841 00:37:37,488 --> 00:37:40,524 and then another 15 people from the UK. 842 00:37:40,524 --> 00:37:42,560 So we had amazing resources, 843 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,630 and just had a great time. 844 00:37:45,630 --> 00:37:47,465 Another thing that was really fun was getting 845 00:37:47,465 --> 00:37:50,434 to sort of design Glen from the ground up. 846 00:37:50,434 --> 00:37:51,836 We knew he had to have sharp teeth, 847 00:37:51,836 --> 00:37:54,472 because that had been established in "Bride." 848 00:37:54,472 --> 00:37:56,574 But other than that we were free 849 00:37:56,574 --> 00:37:59,343 to play with Glen, which was really awesome. 850 00:37:59,343 --> 00:38:00,811 - And I love how Glen looks. 851 00:38:00,811 --> 00:38:03,848 He looks like a Walter Keane painting, 852 00:38:03,848 --> 00:38:07,718 or Margaret Keane who actually did them, gone to horror. 853 00:38:07,718 --> 00:38:09,754 - It was just kind of fun, you know. 854 00:38:10,655 --> 00:38:13,624 Just trying to invent who this character is. 855 00:38:13,624 --> 00:38:15,559 Don had this idea that it should be 856 00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:18,429 a sort of Dickensian character. 857 00:38:18,429 --> 00:38:20,665 It should be like Oliver Twist. 858 00:38:20,665 --> 00:38:22,500 - Don felt strongly that it would be great 859 00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:26,337 to explore further the family dynamics 860 00:38:26,337 --> 00:38:28,639 of including this child. 861 00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:31,742 - Look, I still have the necklace you left me. 862 00:38:31,742 --> 00:38:34,512 - It just seemed natural that we would evolve 863 00:38:34,512 --> 00:38:36,547 into a domestic drama. 864 00:38:36,547 --> 00:38:37,782 - "Seed of Chucky" I think was one 865 00:38:37,782 --> 00:38:39,784 of the most bizarre experiences of my life. 866 00:38:39,784 --> 00:38:42,553 It's just really bizarre to be looking at 867 00:38:42,553 --> 00:38:45,523 a little tiny doll with her little eyes blinking, going, 868 00:38:45,523 --> 00:38:48,292 "Miss Tilly, you can do it the easy way. 869 00:38:48,292 --> 00:38:50,494 - Or the hard way. 870 00:38:50,795 --> 00:38:52,530 - I was playing myself, Jennifer Tilly, 871 00:38:52,530 --> 00:38:55,499 international film star. 872 00:38:55,499 --> 00:38:58,502 I was playing Tiffany, a talking doll 873 00:38:58,502 --> 00:38:59,904 that was my biggest fan. 874 00:38:59,904 --> 00:39:04,475 And then I played Tiffany in Jennifer Tilly's body. 875 00:39:04,475 --> 00:39:07,511 - Jennifer completely mocks herself in this movie 876 00:39:07,511 --> 00:39:09,013 in a way that I think people will love her for. 877 00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:12,483 - How come I don't ever get any of the good roles anymore? 878 00:39:12,483 --> 00:39:15,219 How come nobody takes me seriously? 879 00:39:15,219 --> 00:39:16,320 - Nice tits. 880 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,355 - Thank you. 881 00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:18,789 - Yeah, I had a partner, 882 00:39:18,789 --> 00:39:22,526 you know, we were arguing and smooching, 883 00:39:22,526 --> 00:39:24,595 and you know, doing whatever we were doing. 884 00:39:25,529 --> 00:39:28,466 You know, murdering together. 885 00:39:28,466 --> 00:39:29,533 - Having a kid together. 886 00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:31,535 - Having a kid together. 887 00:39:31,535 --> 00:39:33,571 - I knew Brad because of "Lord of the Rings." 888 00:39:33,571 --> 00:39:35,706 Brad of course, is Wormtongue. 889 00:39:35,706 --> 00:39:37,675 Did you guys ever get to be 890 00:39:37,675 --> 00:39:39,543 in the booth together when you did voiceover for "Seed"? 891 00:39:39,543 --> 00:39:41,679 - Nah, it was just me. 892 00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:44,415 Don had all these pictures of what everybody 893 00:39:44,415 --> 00:39:45,683 was going to look like. 894 00:39:45,683 --> 00:39:48,552 And then he had readings of most of 895 00:39:48,552 --> 00:39:50,554 the other characters for the scene, 896 00:39:50,554 --> 00:39:52,523 so I knew how they played it. 897 00:39:52,523 --> 00:39:53,557 But we didn't play it together. 898 00:39:53,557 --> 00:39:55,793 - So I had different voices for Tiffany. 899 00:39:55,793 --> 00:39:58,462 When Tiffany was a person I had sort of like 900 00:39:58,462 --> 00:40:00,498 a Marilyn Monroe-esque, like kind of, 901 00:40:00,498 --> 00:40:02,633 like white trashy voice. 902 00:40:02,633 --> 00:40:04,635 And then when she went into the doll, 903 00:40:04,635 --> 00:40:06,437 I made it more of a tinny voice. 904 00:40:06,437 --> 00:40:07,505 'Cause I figured the doll doesn't have 905 00:40:07,505 --> 00:40:08,639 like really strong vocal chords. 906 00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:09,507 So I made it more of a doll-like voice. 907 00:40:09,507 --> 00:40:11,509 - Yes, he is. 908 00:40:11,509 --> 00:40:13,310 - Joan, will you please stop doing that? 909 00:40:13,310 --> 00:40:14,512 - Doing what? 910 00:40:14,512 --> 00:40:16,480 - Imitating me. I do not sound like that! 911 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,748 - Oh yes you do. 912 00:40:17,748 --> 00:40:19,817 - And then when she went into Jennifer Tilly, 913 00:40:19,817 --> 00:40:21,719 I sort of had to do a little bit of the doll, 914 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,654 a little bit of the human Tiffany 915 00:40:23,654 --> 00:40:25,689 in Jennifer Tilly's voice. 916 00:40:25,689 --> 00:40:28,526 - All right, Fulvia, if that's what you want. 917 00:40:28,526 --> 00:40:30,361 - And then we wanted the difference 918 00:40:30,361 --> 00:40:32,430 between Glen and Glenda. 919 00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:34,498 Glen's a sort of more proper English. 920 00:40:34,498 --> 00:40:35,733 - I saw you on the telly. 921 00:40:35,733 --> 00:40:39,670 - And then Glenda's a bit more, kind of cockney. 922 00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:42,706 - That's my name. Don't you wear it out. 923 00:40:42,706 --> 00:40:46,410 - I especially love Billy Boyd's rendition 924 00:40:46,410 --> 00:40:48,479 of those characters. 925 00:40:48,479 --> 00:40:51,649 - Stop it, Mommy. You'll wrinkle me dress. 926 00:40:51,649 --> 00:40:54,718 - Stop it, Mommy. You'll wrinkle my dress. 927 00:40:54,718 --> 00:40:57,321 - I love him, and I love Glen and Glenda. 928 00:40:57,321 --> 00:40:58,556 But a feel an affection for them, 929 00:40:58,556 --> 00:40:59,723 because they're my children. 930 00:40:59,723 --> 00:41:01,859 You never stop loving your children. 931 00:41:01,859 --> 00:41:04,862 - Glen's cute, he would be in a punk rock bar. 932 00:41:04,862 --> 00:41:09,400 You know, he looks like a kind of boy I'd date. 933 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,335 - I really love Glen. 934 00:41:11,335 --> 00:41:12,736 I think he's really funny. 935 00:41:12,736 --> 00:41:16,507 But I also find him poignant in a way. 936 00:41:16,507 --> 00:41:18,442 And when we were making the movie, 937 00:41:18,442 --> 00:41:19,376 there were times where we like, 938 00:41:19,376 --> 00:41:21,712 oh, this is kind of sad. 939 00:41:21,712 --> 00:41:23,848 You remember when Glen kills Chucky, 940 00:41:23,848 --> 00:41:26,283 and he chops him up and he's just devastated. 941 00:41:26,283 --> 00:41:27,651 And he's crying. 942 00:41:27,651 --> 00:41:29,820 And Jennifer Tilly is like comforting him. 943 00:41:29,820 --> 00:41:32,189 We're all kind of like getting a little like 944 00:41:32,189 --> 00:41:34,525 oh, this is sad. 945 00:41:34,525 --> 00:41:37,528 But people didn't respond correctly at first. 946 00:41:37,528 --> 00:41:39,630 - Glen/Glenda was the first trans kid, 947 00:41:39,630 --> 00:41:42,633 doll trans kid, that was ever portrayed in the movies. 948 00:41:42,633 --> 00:41:44,668 - It's maybe one of the greatest things 949 00:41:44,668 --> 00:41:48,439 about "Seed" I think, is this kind of transgender, 950 00:41:48,439 --> 00:41:49,640 you know, confused. 951 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,675 - Sometimes I feel like a boy. 952 00:41:51,675 --> 00:41:53,544 Sometimes I feel like a girl. 953 00:41:53,544 --> 00:41:56,347 - And his parents don't help. 954 00:41:56,347 --> 00:41:59,783 It's a big, parent's please help. 955 00:41:59,783 --> 00:42:02,720 - In my mission to make the franchise gayer and gayer, 956 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:06,357 we address this in a movie that maybe like 957 00:42:06,357 --> 00:42:08,559 the audience wasn't ready for. 958 00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:10,494 - I don't think "Seed of Chucky" was rejected 959 00:42:10,494 --> 00:42:12,329 because of those themes. 960 00:42:12,329 --> 00:42:13,664 I think the film was embraced 961 00:42:13,664 --> 00:42:16,467 by that niche part of the audience. 962 00:42:16,467 --> 00:42:19,670 - Now, people are more interested in that. 963 00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:22,473 - Don, in a strange way through the Chucky movies 964 00:42:22,473 --> 00:42:24,508 he sort of educates. 965 00:42:24,508 --> 00:42:27,645 And makes people feel compassion for people 966 00:42:27,645 --> 00:42:29,446 that are not like themselves. 967 00:42:29,446 --> 00:42:30,781 - Partly you're like, write what you know. 968 00:42:30,781 --> 00:42:32,483 But I also, there's just a part of me 969 00:42:32,483 --> 00:42:34,518 that it amused me. 970 00:42:34,518 --> 00:42:37,388 The idea of like kind of turning what had become 971 00:42:37,388 --> 00:42:39,723 a cultural icon on its head, 972 00:42:39,723 --> 00:42:42,560 and making the franchise be almost like an ambassador 973 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,496 for like gay horror fans. 974 00:42:45,496 --> 00:42:47,831 - Gay people have always embraced horror films, 975 00:42:47,831 --> 00:42:50,834 because they've always been able to relate to the monster. 976 00:42:50,834 --> 00:42:54,638 The Frankenstein monster who's being persecuted 977 00:42:54,638 --> 00:42:56,640 and aren't getting a fair shake. 978 00:42:58,108 --> 00:43:01,712 That's probably why they gravitate towards horror films, 979 00:43:01,712 --> 00:43:04,748 'cause they see themselves in some of these characters. 980 00:43:04,748 --> 00:43:06,450 - I think gay people always liked horror movies, 981 00:43:06,450 --> 00:43:08,786 'cause they're drama queens. 982 00:43:08,786 --> 00:43:11,522 - I think perhaps it was rejected more for the fact 983 00:43:11,522 --> 00:43:13,524 that so much of it was played for laughs, 984 00:43:13,524 --> 00:43:14,758 and it was jokey and silly. 985 00:43:14,758 --> 00:43:16,694 - These films have really evolved 986 00:43:16,694 --> 00:43:19,496 from being a really frightening first film, 987 00:43:19,496 --> 00:43:21,265 to moving much more into the area 988 00:43:21,265 --> 00:43:22,766 of being horror comedies. 989 00:43:22,766 --> 00:43:25,302 - The film was a little too far over the top 990 00:43:25,302 --> 00:43:27,705 in terms of the humor and 991 00:43:27,705 --> 00:43:29,873 the outrageousness of the storyline. 992 00:43:29,873 --> 00:43:32,543 - This one sort of took it all one step further. 993 00:43:32,543 --> 00:43:34,878 I don't know, it's sort of spoofing on top of spoofing. 994 00:43:34,878 --> 00:43:38,215 - You can catch their movie in theaters next Halloween. 995 00:43:38,215 --> 00:43:38,882 Thank you, Chucky. 996 00:43:40,217 --> 00:43:42,586 - Fuck you very much. 997 00:43:42,586 --> 00:43:44,755 - I think that was a little too much for horror fans 998 00:43:44,755 --> 00:43:47,725 who just go to see a movie for blood and guts. 999 00:43:47,725 --> 00:43:50,794 Horror fans really want their scares and their gore. 1000 00:43:50,794 --> 00:43:53,597 And even though the film definitely had its gore moments, 1001 00:43:53,597 --> 00:43:55,799 some really grotesque death scenes. 1002 00:43:55,799 --> 00:43:58,335 What is one of your favorite death scenes? 1003 00:43:58,335 --> 00:44:01,705 - Glen accidentally kills, uh... 1004 00:44:01,705 --> 00:44:03,173 Are talking about with the acid? 1005 00:44:03,173 --> 00:44:04,208 - Yeah. 1006 00:44:04,208 --> 00:44:04,842 John Waters. 1007 00:44:05,376 --> 00:44:09,380 - John Waters. I liked that, 'cause it was accidental. 1008 00:44:09,380 --> 00:44:10,514 He didn't mean it. 1009 00:44:10,514 --> 00:44:12,483 - You know, he loved the Chucky movies, 1010 00:44:12,483 --> 00:44:14,752 and he always wanted to be a victim of Chucky. 1011 00:44:14,752 --> 00:44:16,353 You should ask him about that. 1012 00:44:16,353 --> 00:44:17,721 - Well, I wanted to, yes. 1013 00:44:17,721 --> 00:44:20,457 So I was thrilled to be injured 1014 00:44:20,457 --> 00:44:22,159 and thrown acid in my face, even better. 1015 00:44:28,632 --> 00:44:30,801 - But the first day I remembered, 1016 00:44:30,801 --> 00:44:33,504 the first take was Chucky was coming at me. 1017 00:44:33,504 --> 00:44:35,506 He moves, it's actually not like 1018 00:44:35,506 --> 00:44:37,541 they put that in later and his mouth opens 1019 00:44:37,541 --> 00:44:38,409 and you hear what he says. 1020 00:44:38,409 --> 00:44:39,510 So he's coming at me, 1021 00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:41,412 and then they say cut. 1022 00:44:41,412 --> 00:44:42,680 And you know, he falls down. 1023 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,248 Then all of a sudden he looks up at me 1024 00:44:44,248 --> 00:44:45,315 and goes, "Fuck you." 1025 00:44:45,315 --> 00:44:47,284 It was the puppeteers working him, 1026 00:44:47,284 --> 00:44:48,852 which really made me laugh. 1027 00:44:48,852 --> 00:44:52,523 - In "Seed of Chucky" Guy Louthan played Don Mancini. 1028 00:44:52,523 --> 00:44:54,692 So if you look at the credits in "Seed of Chucky," 1029 00:44:54,692 --> 00:44:57,361 it says, Don Mancini played by Guy Louthan, 1030 00:44:57,361 --> 00:44:58,796 who was the producer. 1031 00:44:58,796 --> 00:45:01,632 And I really felt like Don should play Guy Louthan. 1032 00:45:01,632 --> 00:45:03,434 Play the actual producer in the movie, 1033 00:45:03,434 --> 00:45:04,568 or play somebody else. 1034 00:45:04,568 --> 00:45:06,670 But he didn't want to do it. 1035 00:45:06,670 --> 00:45:09,640 - Just Tony playing himself. 1036 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,242 And then the puppets getting revenge on the puppeteer. 1037 00:45:17,848 --> 00:45:21,618 - Yeah, I think the audience might have felt 1038 00:45:21,618 --> 00:45:23,654 that Don was being a little too clever, 1039 00:45:23,654 --> 00:45:26,724 and a little too in-jokey for their own taste. 1040 00:45:26,724 --> 00:45:29,693 - It would have been absolutely de rigueur 1041 00:45:29,693 --> 00:45:32,396 for the people in charge to say like, 1042 00:45:32,396 --> 00:45:34,298 "Okay, it's time to get some new blood 1043 00:45:34,298 --> 00:45:35,499 in here now, 1044 00:45:35,499 --> 00:45:37,000 'cause that didn't work out so well." 1045 00:45:38,502 --> 00:45:40,571 But David didn't he stayed loyal to me. 1046 00:45:40,571 --> 00:45:42,606 - He works so hard, he cares so much. 1047 00:45:42,606 --> 00:45:44,341 I've never worked with a director 1048 00:45:44,341 --> 00:45:46,543 that does not lose his cool. 1049 00:45:46,543 --> 00:45:48,779 - You're under a clock, and how are we gonna do this? 1050 00:45:48,779 --> 00:45:51,882 And it's kind of constantly traumatic. 1051 00:45:53,383 --> 00:45:55,819 But that's a bonding experience. 1052 00:45:55,819 --> 00:46:00,991 - So there is very much a wonderful, familial flavor to it. 1053 00:46:01,258 --> 00:46:02,559 - You get really close. 1054 00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:04,495 I mean, you're literally close. 1055 00:46:04,495 --> 00:46:06,530 You're sandwiched under a desk, 1056 00:46:06,530 --> 00:46:09,700 or working side-by-side, or on top of somebody. 1057 00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:12,436 And you have to really find a collective mindset 1058 00:46:12,436 --> 00:46:14,538 to make the character work. 1059 00:46:14,538 --> 00:46:16,573 I mean, if somebody's doing the eyes, 1060 00:46:16,573 --> 00:46:17,674 and someone else is doing the head, 1061 00:46:17,674 --> 00:46:19,643 the eyes have to lead the head movement, 1062 00:46:19,643 --> 00:46:21,245 And usually there's a blink in there, 1063 00:46:21,245 --> 00:46:22,412 and that's somebody else. 1064 00:46:22,412 --> 00:46:23,680 And if he's reacting to something, 1065 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,416 a brow needs to go up while he's turning. 1066 00:46:26,416 --> 00:46:27,417 - What gives over here yet? 1067 00:46:27,417 --> 00:46:28,619 Are we through here yet? 1068 00:46:28,619 --> 00:46:30,154 Give us us a bit of the nasty thing, 1069 00:46:30,154 --> 00:46:31,021 then I want him to relax. 1070 00:46:31,021 --> 00:46:31,755 Yeah. 1071 00:46:31,989 --> 00:46:34,591 - And then when he does the turn to his left 1072 00:46:34,591 --> 00:46:36,593 lead with the left brow 1073 00:46:36,593 --> 00:46:39,730 going up along with the turn. 1074 00:46:39,730 --> 00:46:41,665 - If each one of those is a different person 1075 00:46:41,665 --> 00:46:43,734 and you're trying to think as one character, 1076 00:46:43,734 --> 00:46:47,337 you either get in sync really quick, or it doesn't work. 1077 00:46:47,337 --> 00:46:48,505 - Oh shit. 1078 00:47:35,586 --> 00:47:37,688 - With every new rebirth 1079 00:47:37,688 --> 00:47:40,591 of a film Chucky's look changes a little bit. 1080 00:47:40,591 --> 00:47:44,428 In the first two films, Chucky was possessed 1081 00:47:44,428 --> 00:47:46,463 by Charles Lee Ray, I mean he still is. 1082 00:47:46,463 --> 00:47:48,632 But he was progressively turning human, 1083 00:47:48,632 --> 00:47:50,434 which is for one reason or another 1084 00:47:50,434 --> 00:47:52,536 not the case anymore. 1085 00:47:52,536 --> 00:47:55,572 You know, there's a lot of Chucky purists as I say 1086 00:47:55,572 --> 00:47:57,741 that would say, "Oh, I hate the way Chucky looks. 1087 00:47:57,741 --> 00:47:59,843 I wish he looked like he did in the first film." 1088 00:47:59,843 --> 00:48:02,579 But if you follow the story that wouldn't make sense. 1089 00:48:02,579 --> 00:48:04,548 - I watched the doll, but not, of course, 1090 00:48:04,548 --> 00:48:05,883 I can't have a scene with the doll. 1091 00:48:05,883 --> 00:48:10,254 You know, it was great to be finally able to be there, 1092 00:48:10,254 --> 00:48:12,823 and be around and watch. 1093 00:48:12,823 --> 00:48:16,593 - Today, will be the first time I've ever seen Chucky 1094 00:48:17,995 --> 00:48:20,230 in the plastic version work. 1095 00:48:31,475 --> 00:48:33,577 - In "Curse of Chucky," it's like a refresh 1096 00:48:33,577 --> 00:48:35,646 even though it's continuing the same storyline, 1097 00:48:35,646 --> 00:48:37,614 you get the whole new cast of characters, 1098 00:48:37,614 --> 00:48:40,384 primarily Nica, who's played by Fiona Dourif, 1099 00:48:40,384 --> 00:48:41,618 Brad Dourif's daughter, 1100 00:48:41,618 --> 00:48:42,920 which is really fun and interesting. 1101 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,656 - And we don't get to work with Brad all that often. 1102 00:48:45,656 --> 00:48:47,624 All his stuff is done ahead of time. 1103 00:48:47,624 --> 00:48:49,760 So he's kind of on the periphery. 1104 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,863 Although, when we did "Curse of Chucky," 1105 00:48:52,863 --> 00:48:56,667 he was on set everyday that Fiona was working. 1106 00:48:56,667 --> 00:48:59,603 And he was there as like the proud dad. 1107 00:48:59,603 --> 00:49:02,472 - He's been like interjecting embarrassing stories 1108 00:49:02,472 --> 00:49:04,541 from my childhood. - Yeah. 1109 00:49:04,541 --> 00:49:05,275 - You know, median's with- - The press junket 1110 00:49:05,275 --> 00:49:06,243 will be fun. 1111 00:49:07,411 --> 00:49:08,745 - And we kind of bonded as parents. 1112 00:49:08,745 --> 00:49:12,382 Which is funny, 'cause then I go to work 1113 00:49:12,382 --> 00:49:13,650 and I listen to his voice coming out 1114 00:49:13,650 --> 00:49:15,452 of this doll while we're trying to stab Fiona. 1115 00:49:20,891 --> 00:49:24,561 - I like that Nica is a person who is in a wheelchair. 1116 00:49:24,561 --> 00:49:27,397 You don't see that depicted often in horror movies, 1117 00:49:27,397 --> 00:49:30,400 especially not as the primary hero. 1118 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,636 - When I was cast in the first one, 1119 00:49:32,636 --> 00:49:34,438 I was nervous that I wasn't gonna take it seriously. 1120 00:49:34,438 --> 00:49:36,440 Because on set, you know, 1121 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,508 there's this moving, walking puppet, 1122 00:49:38,508 --> 00:49:40,577 and they play my dad's voice. 1123 00:49:40,577 --> 00:49:41,712 And I was like, "I think you guys 1124 00:49:41,712 --> 00:49:43,580 are just gonna have to say it, say the words." 1125 00:49:43,580 --> 00:49:45,649 Because he sounds like my dad. 1126 00:49:45,649 --> 00:49:48,618 - One quick, decisive motion. 1127 00:49:48,618 --> 00:49:50,520 'Cause he's like fallen and now he's looking right 1128 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,788 back up at Nica. 1129 00:49:51,788 --> 00:49:54,424 - Don said no, he said that he wanted it 1130 00:49:54,424 --> 00:49:56,660 to be the recording. 1131 00:49:56,660 --> 00:49:58,628 And it actually really helped, 1132 00:49:58,628 --> 00:50:01,498 'cause there was something so unnerving about it. 1133 00:50:01,498 --> 00:50:04,534 - I'm gonna kill you slow. 1134 00:50:05,836 --> 00:50:08,605 - But having my dad's voice was helpful, ultimately. 1135 00:50:08,605 --> 00:50:12,509 It was, really creepy. 1136 00:50:12,509 --> 00:50:13,477 - Thank you. 1137 00:50:15,278 --> 00:50:16,546 - Ugh. 1138 00:50:16,546 --> 00:50:18,415 - When we started off it was 30 years ago, and 1139 00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:24,321 Fiona was, you know, like a year old, or something. 1140 00:50:24,321 --> 00:50:25,722 - Here's five-year-old Fiona, 1141 00:50:25,722 --> 00:50:27,657 and there's 12-year-old Fiona. 1142 00:50:27,657 --> 00:50:28,725 And she doesn't remember any of this. 1143 00:50:28,725 --> 00:50:30,460 But there were certain events 1144 00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:31,661 and screenings where I would see her. 1145 00:50:31,661 --> 00:50:34,664 And then she grew up, and she became an actress. 1146 00:50:34,664 --> 00:50:38,535 She came in on "Curse" and she read for 1147 00:50:38,535 --> 00:50:41,238 the role of the bitchy older sister. 1148 00:50:41,238 --> 00:50:42,439 And she was really good. 1149 00:50:42,439 --> 00:50:43,907 But I was looking at her and was like, 1150 00:50:43,907 --> 00:50:46,743 "I actually think she'd be really good as the lead." 1151 00:50:46,743 --> 00:50:49,613 And it's just like, wow that just would be 1152 00:50:49,613 --> 00:50:51,848 an odd thing to find the lead in our backyard. 1153 00:50:51,848 --> 00:50:53,817 You know the daughter of the guy who plays Chucky. 1154 00:50:53,817 --> 00:50:56,720 - Fans have been asking for really wanting 1155 00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:00,590 a return to the kind of straightforward, 1156 00:51:00,590 --> 00:51:03,427 legitimately scary tone that we had 1157 00:51:03,427 --> 00:51:04,561 in the first couple of movies. 1158 00:51:04,561 --> 00:51:06,496 - Well Don Mancini did a very clever thing. 1159 00:51:06,496 --> 00:51:09,599 Was when his budget got slashed so drastically 1160 00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:11,535 when it came to doing "Curse of Chucky," 1161 00:51:11,535 --> 00:51:13,503 and "Cult of Chucky." 1162 00:51:13,503 --> 00:51:15,505 Did what a lot of low budget filmmakers do 1163 00:51:15,505 --> 00:51:17,641 is set their movies in one location. 1164 00:51:17,641 --> 00:51:21,478 You're able to tell a very claustrophobic story. 1165 00:51:21,478 --> 00:51:24,314 - When you're filming usually on a limited budget 1166 00:51:24,314 --> 00:51:26,550 in one or two locations, 1167 00:51:26,550 --> 00:51:29,853 it often gives you bumpers. 1168 00:51:29,853 --> 00:51:33,356 You got to find it in there, you can't find it out there. 1169 00:51:33,356 --> 00:51:34,624 You can't find it up there. 1170 00:51:34,624 --> 00:51:36,660 You got to find it right in here. 1171 00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:39,729 When we did "Insidious" it was all in one location. 1172 00:51:39,729 --> 00:51:42,799 Being in a house is especially claustrophobic. 1173 00:51:42,799 --> 00:51:45,769 You're in this space and what's going on is 1174 00:51:45,769 --> 00:51:48,705 it's walking down the hallway, it's in the window. 1175 00:51:48,705 --> 00:51:51,508 It's not on the streets, it's in your house. 1176 00:51:51,508 --> 00:51:54,578 But it's all here, it's all on top of you. 1177 00:51:54,578 --> 00:51:57,881 And when horror is on top of you, it's really scary. 1178 00:51:57,881 --> 00:52:00,584 - What happened to all horror it seemed like at first 1179 00:52:00,584 --> 00:52:03,753 it was scary, then it went so ugly, 1180 00:52:03,753 --> 00:52:05,555 like it got like torture porn. 1181 00:52:05,555 --> 00:52:07,424 And then it got funny. 1182 00:52:07,424 --> 00:52:08,592 And then it got to be ridiculous 1183 00:52:08,592 --> 00:52:10,427 that it wasn't funny anymore. 1184 00:52:10,427 --> 00:52:12,496 - By Scream 3 it felt like they knew 1185 00:52:12,496 --> 00:52:14,464 they were in a horror movie. 1186 00:52:14,464 --> 00:52:16,666 It almost started to fell like a "Scary Movie" 1187 00:52:16,666 --> 00:52:17,501 which was coming out at the same time. 1188 00:52:19,369 --> 00:52:21,638 - Oh, shit. 1189 00:52:21,638 --> 00:52:23,740 - And then you had to go back to still being scary. 1190 00:52:23,740 --> 00:52:25,408 - That's one of the reasons why I think he went 1191 00:52:25,408 --> 00:52:28,311 for the more scare approach than, 1192 00:52:28,311 --> 00:52:29,613 you know, "Seed, and "Bride," 1193 00:52:29,613 --> 00:52:32,682 because he was working with less money. 1194 00:52:32,682 --> 00:52:35,652 It needed to be scary to really win people over. 1195 00:52:35,652 --> 00:52:37,888 - I mean we're trying to bring Chucky back 1196 00:52:37,888 --> 00:52:44,327 to being a very sinister and very sick, scary entity. 1197 00:52:47,330 --> 00:52:48,698 - This is the first time I've actually physically been 1198 00:52:48,698 --> 00:52:50,667 on a set with him and directed him. 1199 00:52:50,667 --> 00:52:53,537 Now, of course, it's more fun to bring his daughter 1200 00:52:53,537 --> 00:52:56,573 into the series as this particular movie's star. 1201 00:52:56,573 --> 00:53:00,510 - Don Mancini told me when he cast you he said, 1202 00:53:00,510 --> 00:53:02,879 "You know, the thing about Fiona is, 1203 00:53:02,879 --> 00:53:06,616 and the reason why is she actually looks like somebody 1204 00:53:06,616 --> 00:53:08,885 who this could really happen to. 1205 00:53:08,885 --> 00:53:11,254 - But then we had her come back in and read for Nica, 1206 00:53:11,254 --> 00:53:13,423 and she was really great. 1207 00:53:13,423 --> 00:53:14,791 - She had to audition quite a few times. 1208 00:53:14,791 --> 00:53:16,960 How many times did you have to audition for Chucky? 1209 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:17,627 Three times. 1210 00:53:17,627 --> 00:53:18,762 - Three times, then she had 1211 00:53:18,762 --> 00:53:20,530 to audition three times for that. 1212 00:53:20,530 --> 00:53:23,500 So she got it because she earned it. 1213 00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:26,503 - There's a new person coming in playing the lead. 1214 00:53:26,503 --> 00:53:28,605 How's this dynamic gonna shift? 1215 00:53:28,605 --> 00:53:29,739 And is she gonna be a team player? 1216 00:53:29,739 --> 00:53:31,608 She's more than a team player. 1217 00:53:31,608 --> 00:53:32,909 She's literally part of the group, 1218 00:53:32,909 --> 00:53:35,612 and you feel like she's been there since the beginning, 1219 00:53:35,612 --> 00:53:37,681 because she gets it, and she gets how it works. 1220 00:53:37,681 --> 00:53:40,483 And to help us get what we need, 1221 00:53:40,483 --> 00:53:42,586 because the puppet's eyes can really only turn 1222 00:53:42,586 --> 00:53:45,622 this far to the right, so she'll adjust. 1223 00:53:45,622 --> 00:53:47,991 And she just had it from the very beginning. 1224 00:53:47,991 --> 00:53:51,628 - Also, for whatever reason she has this incredible ability 1225 00:53:51,628 --> 00:53:54,731 to register trauma and pain. 1226 00:53:54,731 --> 00:53:56,633 - In order for the actors to truly believe they're 1227 00:53:56,633 --> 00:53:58,535 in danger, whatever it may be, 1228 00:53:58,535 --> 00:54:02,806 there's a level of bringing the audience in to 1229 00:54:02,806 --> 00:54:05,575 almost forget that they're in danger, 1230 00:54:05,575 --> 00:54:07,644 or you're in danger in the next moment. 1231 00:54:07,644 --> 00:54:09,746 - I mean, fear is such an interesting emotion. 1232 00:54:09,746 --> 00:54:13,650 And the elements that add up to fear, real fear, 1233 00:54:13,650 --> 00:54:15,752 cross that line obviously, between being imaginary 1234 00:54:15,752 --> 00:54:17,654 and something really happening to you. 1235 00:54:17,654 --> 00:54:18,788 - I think it's an incredible genre. 1236 00:54:18,788 --> 00:54:21,491 He stakes are higher than in, you know, 1237 00:54:21,491 --> 00:54:23,660 like a typical drama or comedy. 1238 00:54:23,660 --> 00:54:25,395 The stakes are higher in a different way. 1239 00:54:25,395 --> 00:54:26,830 The world that you create is one 1240 00:54:26,830 --> 00:54:29,532 that you have to live in your mind in different way. 1241 00:54:29,532 --> 00:54:31,468 - Your body doesn't know you're pretending. 1242 00:54:31,468 --> 00:54:33,503 When you're frightened in a film, 1243 00:54:33,503 --> 00:54:35,772 or if you put yourself there, weird things happen. 1244 00:54:35,772 --> 00:54:38,541 I mean, you start sweating, your hands get cold. 1245 00:54:38,541 --> 00:54:40,310 Often, for me, it's always crying. 1246 00:54:40,310 --> 00:54:42,479 - But in crying scenes 1247 00:54:42,479 --> 00:54:44,714 there is like no veil to cover you. 1248 00:54:44,714 --> 00:54:47,317 Even in real life, like, sometimes those cries 1249 00:54:47,317 --> 00:54:48,551 that you just can't stop, 1250 00:54:48,551 --> 00:54:51,521 when they get captured on camera, 1251 00:54:51,521 --> 00:54:53,757 it's almost like a glimpse into your real soul. 1252 00:54:53,757 --> 00:54:55,458 - The real-er you are the better. 1253 00:54:55,458 --> 00:54:56,726 Bring your emotions, bringing your timing, 1254 00:54:56,726 --> 00:54:58,628 bring your realness to it, bring your truth. 1255 00:54:58,628 --> 00:55:01,531 - It almost sounds sadistic that I need to like, 1256 00:55:01,531 --> 00:55:04,634 I want to see you register this kind of pain 1257 00:55:04,634 --> 00:55:07,337 that I've seen you do in real life. 1258 00:55:07,337 --> 00:55:08,705 Because I'm your friend now, 1259 00:55:08,705 --> 00:55:10,573 and I saw you go through this horrible experience. 1260 00:55:10,573 --> 00:55:12,542 Let's use that in the movie. 1261 00:55:12,542 --> 00:55:14,577 - It has sometimes there's been moments 1262 00:55:14,577 --> 00:55:17,480 that have taken me into places I almost didn't want 1263 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,649 to go, but I went anyway. 1264 00:55:19,649 --> 00:55:21,718 Because there's that little part of you going, 1265 00:55:21,718 --> 00:55:24,321 this is important, this is happening. 1266 00:55:24,321 --> 00:55:26,323 Go, go, go, go, go. 1267 00:55:26,323 --> 00:55:28,625 And I won't censor myself. 1268 00:55:28,625 --> 00:55:31,761 - Which I think makes a great actor I think when you do that 1269 00:55:31,761 --> 00:55:34,597 you're communicating with the people who are watching. 1270 00:55:34,597 --> 00:55:36,633 - Stuff that you experience in real life, 1271 00:55:36,633 --> 00:55:38,768 you go, we'll we can use that as fodder in the next film. 1272 00:55:38,768 --> 00:55:40,737 And I want to take the character that you play 1273 00:55:40,737 --> 00:55:42,672 in the Chucky franchise to that place 1274 00:55:42,672 --> 00:55:44,541 that I know that you're able to go. 1275 00:55:44,541 --> 00:55:46,042 But people haven't seen you go there before. 1276 00:55:48,578 --> 00:55:51,514 She's a great friend, 1277 00:55:51,514 --> 00:55:54,317 and just a really inspiring collaborator. 1278 00:56:54,811 --> 00:56:58,548 - When you work on a Chucky film you have the task 1279 00:56:58,548 --> 00:57:00,650 of doing the same thing over and over again 1280 00:57:00,650 --> 00:57:02,385 until the doll does what he's supposed 1281 00:57:02,385 --> 00:57:03,586 to do perfectly right. 1282 00:57:03,586 --> 00:57:05,722 Simple things take awhile. 1283 00:57:05,722 --> 00:57:08,258 - If people had more of an idea of what went 1284 00:57:08,258 --> 00:57:11,628 into animating a movie, 1285 00:57:11,628 --> 00:57:14,431 or for that matter, animating Chucky. 1286 00:57:14,431 --> 00:57:15,698 I think people would have 1287 00:57:15,698 --> 00:57:19,502 a much bigger reverence for those kind of movies. 1288 00:57:19,502 --> 00:57:22,572 Because it's this whole other level of complication. 1289 00:57:22,572 --> 00:57:25,542 - It's not just us doing the animatronic puppet 1290 00:57:25,542 --> 00:57:27,343 and making it come alive, and everything works. 1291 00:57:27,343 --> 00:57:28,645 We have to work with Fiona, 1292 00:57:28,645 --> 00:57:30,847 and Don has to work with us to find an angle 1293 00:57:30,847 --> 00:57:33,716 that makes the limitations of the puppeteers, 1294 00:57:33,716 --> 00:57:37,387 or the fact that he can't do certain things work. 1295 00:57:37,387 --> 00:57:39,856 So we really have to connect, 1296 00:57:39,856 --> 00:57:43,560 and we have to work as a team to just get a shot. 1297 00:57:52,735 --> 00:57:56,606 - You have to focus on the moving, the moving puppet, 1298 00:57:56,606 --> 00:57:59,609 and block out all of the people around him 1299 00:57:59,609 --> 00:58:02,445 that are having like rods up his ass and stuff. 1300 00:58:02,445 --> 00:58:03,346 - Oh, dear! 1301 00:58:05,482 --> 00:58:06,516 - You don't get a chance to be like, 1302 00:58:06,516 --> 00:58:07,584 "Well, I'll do one this way, 1303 00:58:07,584 --> 00:58:08,718 and then I'll do one that way." 1304 00:58:08,718 --> 00:58:12,622 Because once Chucky does the right thing 1305 00:58:12,622 --> 00:58:14,324 and we've already spent 30 minutes on it, 1306 00:58:14,324 --> 00:58:15,558 you know we gotta move on. 1307 00:58:15,558 --> 00:58:17,460 - When you have a character that's not a human being 1308 00:58:17,460 --> 00:58:18,461 that you can't just say, "Oh now, 1309 00:58:18,461 --> 00:58:20,630 let's try it over here." 1310 00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:23,533 When you have to plan that stuff out that specifically, 1311 00:58:23,533 --> 00:58:25,301 just so you know where he's gonna be looking, 1312 00:58:25,301 --> 00:58:26,803 what his action is gonna be, 1313 00:58:26,803 --> 00:58:29,772 'cause it may take several to get that action done. 1314 00:58:29,772 --> 00:58:32,742 - So I think if it was any other sort of series, 1315 00:58:32,742 --> 00:58:34,511 I think there would be a bit more of a disconnect 1316 00:58:34,511 --> 00:58:36,779 between all of the people involved. 1317 00:58:36,779 --> 00:58:39,249 Because you'd all have your little piece of the puzzle, 1318 00:58:39,249 --> 00:58:40,683 and it would all plug in. 1319 00:58:40,683 --> 00:58:43,553 Here, we all have to plug in 1320 00:58:43,553 --> 00:58:45,889 just to get each shot and make it work. 1321 00:58:45,889 --> 00:58:52,562 You're the last one standing, so to speak. 1322 00:58:54,531 --> 00:58:56,633 - Yeah, when you're acting with Chucky, Chucky's a figure 1323 00:58:56,633 --> 00:58:59,502 that is walking, and talking and moving, 1324 00:58:59,502 --> 00:59:02,572 which it makes it easier than acting to an X. 1325 00:59:02,572 --> 00:59:05,775 - So you never actually killed Andy Barclay, did you? 1326 00:59:05,775 --> 00:59:08,411 - I was really excited and happy when I got 1327 00:59:08,411 --> 00:59:09,913 the call from Don for "Curse." 1328 00:59:09,913 --> 00:59:13,583 He told me, "I'm trying to write something in for you. 1329 00:59:13,583 --> 00:59:15,518 I got to get it approved by the studio. 1330 00:59:15,518 --> 00:59:17,587 I don't want you to get your hopes up." 1331 00:59:17,587 --> 00:59:20,623 - It was like a test to see how that would go. 1332 00:59:20,623 --> 00:59:21,524 - And so I read it, and I loved the scene 1333 00:59:21,524 --> 00:59:23,526 that he had for Andy. 1334 00:59:23,526 --> 00:59:24,661 I thought it was fun. 1335 00:59:24,661 --> 00:59:26,663 I got to get a little bit of revenge 1336 00:59:26,663 --> 00:59:28,197 and shoot him with a shotgun. 1337 00:59:29,098 --> 00:59:31,868 - The fan response was really positive. 1338 00:59:31,868 --> 00:59:33,603 - And they were really excited to see me in that scene. 1339 00:59:33,603 --> 00:59:35,572 - And he did really well. 1340 00:59:35,572 --> 00:59:38,107 It's a nice group of all of us players 1341 00:59:39,242 --> 00:59:40,543 that have worked together on these. 1342 00:59:40,543 --> 00:59:42,712 - You know one of the reasons I like to keep 1343 00:59:42,712 --> 00:59:44,547 a lot of the same people around, 1344 00:59:44,547 --> 00:59:48,484 because you know you work well together. 1345 00:59:48,484 --> 00:59:49,652 - Well, it was like having a reparatory group. 1346 00:59:49,652 --> 00:59:51,654 You don't even have to talk barely. 1347 00:59:51,654 --> 00:59:53,790 You're one step ahead 'cause you know how everybody thinks, 1348 00:59:53,790 --> 00:59:55,558 and what's their strong points, their weak points. 1349 00:59:55,558 --> 00:59:57,560 - It because a shorthand. 1350 00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,229 You realize when you're filming movies 1351 01:00:01,364 --> 01:00:06,469 time is your best friend and your worst enemy. 1352 01:00:06,469 --> 01:00:09,439 Everything's a shot, I'm fighting the sun, 1353 01:00:09,439 --> 01:00:10,840 I'm fighting the light. 1354 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,508 You're always fighting something in the movies. 1355 01:00:12,508 --> 01:00:14,644 - And you know you're gonna be working 1356 01:00:14,644 --> 01:00:17,413 these long hours under intense conditions. 1357 01:00:17,413 --> 01:00:18,481 - There's a book, "Good to Great" 1358 01:00:18,481 --> 01:00:20,683 and it says put good people on the bus with you, 1359 01:00:20,683 --> 01:00:22,785 so no matter what direction you go in, 1360 01:00:22,785 --> 01:00:25,655 that you know your team of people on that bus, 1361 01:00:25,655 --> 01:00:27,490 that they're just down ass people. 1362 01:00:27,490 --> 01:00:29,225 - You're forced to be in environment 1363 01:00:29,225 --> 01:00:30,627 with the same people. 1364 01:00:30,627 --> 01:00:34,731 And you really have no other choice but to make these bonds. 1365 01:00:34,731 --> 01:00:36,666 - There's something about creating something, 1366 01:00:36,666 --> 01:00:38,534 a piece of art with somebody, 1367 01:00:38,534 --> 01:00:41,638 that somehow bonds you in a really cool way. 1368 01:00:41,638 --> 01:00:44,574 - But when the circumstances are particularly challenging 1369 01:00:44,574 --> 01:00:47,610 then you kind of bond even more like we did on "Cult." 1370 01:00:47,610 --> 01:00:50,480 You know, we were shooting in blizzards, 1371 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,682 in 40 degree below temperatures. 1372 01:00:56,686 --> 01:00:59,055 Here we go, and action. 1373 01:01:03,559 --> 01:01:06,429 And he goes back to being dead, very good. 1374 01:01:06,429 --> 01:01:07,730 And cut! 1375 01:01:07,730 --> 01:01:11,434 - We were in Winnipeg in the winter. 1376 01:01:11,434 --> 01:01:13,469 It was like negative 42 when we arrived, 1377 01:01:13,469 --> 01:01:14,737 and it didn't even matter. 1378 01:01:14,737 --> 01:01:16,773 - We were literally joined at the hip 1379 01:01:16,773 --> 01:01:19,575 through the whole production process. 1380 01:01:19,575 --> 01:01:22,612 Because there isn't a day where Chucky doesn't work. 1381 01:01:22,612 --> 01:01:23,813 But we know each other and there's a shorthand, 1382 01:01:23,813 --> 01:01:26,416 and we compliment each other really well. 1383 01:01:26,416 --> 01:01:29,552 Everything's great. Look! 1384 01:01:32,655 --> 01:01:35,391 - You're basically climbing mountain together. 1385 01:01:35,391 --> 01:01:37,427 And you have to have each other's back. 1386 01:01:37,427 --> 01:01:38,995 And you know you can't do it alone. 1387 01:01:38,995 --> 01:01:42,598 And if you are successful in scaling the mountain together, 1388 01:01:42,598 --> 01:01:44,567 you sort of like, oh my god, we're awesome together. 1389 01:01:44,567 --> 01:01:45,468 Drill. 1390 01:01:47,770 --> 01:01:50,673 - Don's gotten so confident in his story telling 1391 01:01:50,673 --> 01:01:52,442 he's starting to experiment now, 1392 01:01:52,442 --> 01:01:53,710 with the visual side of it a lot more. 1393 01:01:53,710 --> 01:01:56,412 - It's very deliberately surreal, 1394 01:01:56,412 --> 01:01:57,780 and kind of trippy. 1395 01:01:57,780 --> 01:02:00,650 Because you're dealing with people who are insane. 1396 01:02:00,650 --> 01:02:02,752 - Four years after "Curse" continuing 1397 01:02:02,752 --> 01:02:04,821 that storyline with Nica in a mental institute, 1398 01:02:04,821 --> 01:02:06,723 and you got a fun cast of characters there 1399 01:02:06,723 --> 01:02:08,458 with the people inside of it. 1400 01:02:08,458 --> 01:02:11,494 - They have schizophrenia, or whatever it is. 1401 01:02:11,494 --> 01:02:14,430 You have people on drugs. 1402 01:02:14,430 --> 01:02:16,432 You have people getting hypnotized. 1403 01:02:16,432 --> 01:02:18,568 You have dream sequences. 1404 01:02:18,568 --> 01:02:20,369 - It plays a lot with roles. 1405 01:02:20,369 --> 01:02:21,471 So it's like role playing, 1406 01:02:21,471 --> 01:02:23,639 and who's crazy, and who's not crazy? 1407 01:02:23,639 --> 01:02:25,742 - Part of what we wanted to do was like 1408 01:02:25,742 --> 01:02:29,445 a new genre, a new feel, a new aesthetic. 1409 01:02:29,445 --> 01:02:30,813 - It's all very monochromatic, 1410 01:02:30,813 --> 01:02:33,382 and then Chucky walks in and he's all bright stripes, 1411 01:02:33,382 --> 01:02:34,550 and he stands out. 1412 01:02:34,550 --> 01:02:37,487 - So the red hair and blood really pops. 1413 01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:45,828 - The "Child's Play" franchise is a little unusual 1414 01:02:45,828 --> 01:02:48,664 in horror franchises, that I think it's kind of 1415 01:02:48,664 --> 01:02:51,701 a gateway drug to horror for a lot of children. 1416 01:02:51,701 --> 01:02:54,370 For obvious reasons, 'cause it's a doll. 1417 01:02:54,370 --> 01:02:55,605 And so they key in to that. 1418 01:02:55,605 --> 01:02:57,607 But so Andy was their hero, 1419 01:02:57,607 --> 01:02:59,008 and so they've all grown up. 1420 01:02:59,008 --> 01:03:03,179 And now, they're vaguely disaffected 20 somethings. 1421 01:03:04,213 --> 01:03:05,915 They're like, "Andy's got to come back." 1422 01:03:05,915 --> 01:03:09,619 So the challenge was to bring Andy back into the story, 1423 01:03:09,619 --> 01:03:11,654 but in a way that would surprise them. 1424 01:03:11,654 --> 01:03:12,989 - And I think it was really fun, 1425 01:03:14,423 --> 01:03:16,993 as an actor, to reprise a role, 1426 01:03:16,993 --> 01:03:20,696 that has been a topic in my life since I was six-years-old. 1427 01:03:20,696 --> 01:03:23,599 And now, I get to put some life into what Andy 1428 01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:25,768 would be like had he survived that childhood. 1429 01:03:25,768 --> 01:03:28,971 - And you would have aspects of PTSD. 1430 01:03:28,971 --> 01:03:32,508 And how would that manifest in your life as a 30-something? 1431 01:03:32,508 --> 01:03:33,943 - He has clearly struggled with 1432 01:03:35,077 --> 01:03:37,713 the effects that Chucky has had on his life, 1433 01:03:37,713 --> 01:03:41,417 and his inability to move past it 1434 01:03:41,417 --> 01:03:42,718 with others in a relationship. 1435 01:03:42,718 --> 01:03:44,620 And probably even within himself. 1436 01:03:44,620 --> 01:03:47,890 So the way we left it from "Curse of Chucky" 1437 01:03:47,890 --> 01:03:51,828 I think Andy torturing this doll for the past four years 1438 01:03:51,828 --> 01:03:54,197 is the perfect route that Andy should have gone. 1439 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,369 - This was the first time that I had ever done something 1440 01:04:00,369 --> 01:04:01,637 that was written for me. 1441 01:04:01,637 --> 01:04:06,709 I just had way more confidence. 1442 01:04:06,709 --> 01:04:08,711 I was like way more relaxed. 1443 01:04:08,711 --> 01:04:11,480 It just made it so much more fun. 1444 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,482 - In the "Cult of Chucky" 1445 01:04:13,482 --> 01:04:15,318 there was an actor that I slit his throat 1446 01:04:15,318 --> 01:04:16,552 in "Curse of Chucky". 1447 01:04:16,552 --> 01:04:17,687 And he was playing a totally 1448 01:04:17,687 --> 01:04:19,589 different character, Adam Hurtig. 1449 01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:21,490 - Well, "Curse of Chucky" was kind of 1450 01:04:21,490 --> 01:04:24,727 a formative film experience for me. 1451 01:04:24,727 --> 01:04:27,496 I was super intimated to not only work with Don, 1452 01:04:27,496 --> 01:04:28,764 but to work with Fiona, as well. 1453 01:04:28,764 --> 01:04:32,735 Not only did I come in later on during 1454 01:04:32,735 --> 01:04:35,905 the filming process, but I also have to die on camera. 1455 01:04:35,905 --> 01:04:38,741 And Jennifer Tilly had to kill me. So no pressure. 1456 01:04:38,741 --> 01:04:41,544 - And when we went to Toronto, Don goes, 1457 01:04:41,544 --> 01:04:43,546 "Jennifer this actor," 'cause I didn't met him on the set, 1458 01:04:43,546 --> 01:04:44,614 'cause I didn't have any scenes with him. 1459 01:04:44,614 --> 01:04:46,349 He goes, "This actor that's in the Q&A, 1460 01:04:46,349 --> 01:04:47,250 you worked with him before." 1461 01:04:47,250 --> 01:04:47,850 I go, "No, I didn't." 1462 01:04:48,284 --> 01:04:50,152 - How is it to be forgotten by Jennifer Tilly? 1463 01:04:52,421 --> 01:04:54,857 Humbling. Whew. 1464 01:04:54,857 --> 01:04:57,526 - He goes, "Yes, in 'Curse of Chucky' you slit his throat." 1465 01:04:57,526 --> 01:04:58,594 Action. 1466 01:05:00,196 --> 01:05:02,198 And fall. 1467 01:05:04,233 --> 01:05:06,369 Aw. 1468 01:05:06,369 --> 01:05:08,537 - But it was fun to see her face 1469 01:05:08,537 --> 01:05:10,506 when she actually did remember me. 1470 01:05:10,506 --> 01:05:12,575 - And I do remember I slit his throat. 1471 01:05:12,575 --> 01:05:13,809 And I remember he was such a good sport. 1472 01:05:13,809 --> 01:05:16,445 - Oh, wait. 1473 01:05:16,445 --> 01:05:19,482 Oh! And it was this nice, kind of like, 1474 01:05:19,482 --> 01:05:22,418 "Yeah, I'm back." 1475 01:05:22,418 --> 01:05:23,619 - Wait a minute, there's two of them? 1476 01:05:23,619 --> 01:05:26,422 - It was this cool idea that Don was having me 1477 01:05:26,422 --> 01:05:27,490 come back as a different character. 1478 01:05:27,490 --> 01:05:28,391 - You're sick. 1479 01:05:29,692 --> 01:05:31,394 And not in the fun way like me. 1480 01:05:32,628 --> 01:05:34,597 - And I got a chance to really riff with Don 1481 01:05:34,597 --> 01:05:36,465 to see what it was like to create 1482 01:05:36,465 --> 01:05:38,434 this character with multiple personas. 1483 01:05:38,434 --> 01:05:39,835 - You're Mark Zuckerberg, now. 1484 01:05:40,369 --> 01:05:41,070 - Yeah. 1485 01:05:42,471 --> 01:05:43,639 - Okay. 1486 01:05:43,639 --> 01:05:44,874 - I just think that's so interesting 1487 01:05:44,874 --> 01:05:47,576 that Don just rehires people to play another character. 1488 01:05:47,576 --> 01:05:48,644 It's like, "Oh you were the cop in the last one, 1489 01:05:48,644 --> 01:05:50,513 but you can be this psycho in this one. 1490 01:05:50,513 --> 01:05:51,714 No one's gonna notice." 1491 01:05:51,714 --> 01:05:53,716 - Just kind of makes you wonder who's next. 1492 01:05:53,716 --> 01:05:56,419 - It was fun to come back for "Cult." 1493 01:05:56,419 --> 01:05:57,386 Don actually asked me to come back 1494 01:05:57,386 --> 01:05:58,854 for "Curse" at one point. 1495 01:05:58,854 --> 01:06:00,589 Though I think the character there he was considering 1496 01:06:00,589 --> 01:06:02,591 having me do was Fiona's mom. 1497 01:06:02,591 --> 01:06:03,759 And I'm glad it didn't work out, 1498 01:06:03,759 --> 01:06:05,761 because I'm really happy to have come back as Kyle. 1499 01:06:05,761 --> 01:06:07,697 It's a character that I am fond of. 1500 01:06:07,697 --> 01:06:09,465 That part of my life is something 1501 01:06:09,465 --> 01:06:10,466 I'm super nostalgic about. 1502 01:06:10,466 --> 01:06:12,435 - Andy sent me. 1503 01:06:12,435 --> 01:06:13,536 We're gonna have some fun. 1504 01:06:13,536 --> 01:06:14,637 - I like "Cult" a lot. 1505 01:06:14,637 --> 01:06:16,472 I think "Cult" is shot beautifully. 1506 01:06:16,472 --> 01:06:17,673 I'm a fan to the multiple Chuckys. 1507 01:06:17,673 --> 01:06:18,874 - And I know that that was an idea 1508 01:06:18,874 --> 01:06:21,744 that Don had wanted to do way back with "Child's Play 3." 1509 01:06:21,744 --> 01:06:24,547 So it's great to see that finally realized, 1510 01:06:24,547 --> 01:06:25,715 and I think it came off great. 1511 01:06:25,715 --> 01:06:27,416 - I think they're all cute. 1512 01:06:27,416 --> 01:06:28,684 Like I love scene where all three 1513 01:06:28,684 --> 01:06:29,618 of the Chuckys are talking to each other. 1514 01:06:29,618 --> 01:06:31,387 And you have the one armed Chucky 1515 01:06:31,387 --> 01:06:33,389 that's sort of a bad ass, 1516 01:06:33,389 --> 01:06:34,557 and you have the innocent Chucky. 1517 01:06:34,557 --> 01:06:37,226 I just think that he's really, really cute. 1518 01:06:37,226 --> 01:06:38,694 - I never felt so alive! 1519 01:06:38,694 --> 01:06:39,695 - Yeah, well, you've been alive 1520 01:06:39,695 --> 01:06:42,965 for like two minutes. 1521 01:06:42,965 --> 01:06:44,667 - I think it's important to keep him practical. 1522 01:06:44,667 --> 01:06:45,701 I wish there was more money for it, 1523 01:06:45,701 --> 01:06:47,436 but I'm glad it's still practical. 1524 01:06:47,436 --> 01:06:49,472 - Yeah, we can't do CGI with Chucky, 1525 01:06:49,472 --> 01:06:53,776 because it would take away that pure element. 1526 01:06:53,776 --> 01:06:56,512 - Fans have made a point of saying they don't want 1527 01:06:56,512 --> 01:06:58,481 to see CGI with Chucky. 1528 01:06:58,481 --> 01:07:00,716 They really, really want a doll 1529 01:07:00,716 --> 01:07:02,852 that doesn't move in perfect form. 1530 01:07:02,852 --> 01:07:06,789 As brilliant as Tony Gardner is in bringing him to life, 1531 01:07:06,789 --> 01:07:10,726 there is still an element that it's a doll, 1532 01:07:10,726 --> 01:07:13,829 and the movements are different than human movements. 1533 01:07:13,829 --> 01:07:16,565 And I think in there is what makes it frightening. 1534 01:07:16,565 --> 01:07:20,536 I think if it was perfect fluid form, 1535 01:07:20,536 --> 01:07:22,471 I don't think it would be as frightening. 1536 01:07:22,471 --> 01:07:25,441 - When they just make it digital it loses, 1537 01:07:25,441 --> 01:07:27,676 you know, definitely loses something. 1538 01:07:27,676 --> 01:07:30,679 - The eye and the brain could make that distinction 1539 01:07:30,679 --> 01:07:34,517 between computer generated and rubber. 1540 01:07:34,517 --> 01:07:36,519 And rubber's just, it's just so much more effective 1541 01:07:36,519 --> 01:07:38,554 most of the time. 1542 01:07:38,554 --> 01:07:40,589 - When we're lucky enough to have practical effects, 1543 01:07:40,589 --> 01:07:43,859 it's a win-win for everybody, for the actor. 1544 01:07:43,859 --> 01:07:46,629 - Especially when the actors are interacting with it. 1545 01:07:46,629 --> 01:07:48,664 - You're living through something 1546 01:07:48,664 --> 01:07:50,766 which your body is experiencing. 1547 01:07:50,766 --> 01:07:54,470 And for the viewer, they're living through 1548 01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:55,571 what you're living through, 1549 01:07:55,571 --> 01:07:56,639 because you're living through it, 1550 01:07:56,639 --> 01:07:58,607 and you're presenting it to them. 1551 01:07:58,607 --> 01:08:00,443 - I think it was such an incredible experience 1552 01:08:00,443 --> 01:08:02,545 to use practical effects. 1553 01:08:02,545 --> 01:08:05,714 In "Bad Hair," the hair wraps around my ankle. 1554 01:08:05,714 --> 01:08:08,584 It pulls you and then when I came in, 1555 01:08:08,584 --> 01:08:09,685 I had to like cut the hair, 1556 01:08:09,685 --> 01:08:11,620 and all this blood shoots out. 1557 01:08:11,620 --> 01:08:12,755 - People just act differently 1558 01:08:12,755 --> 01:08:15,424 when they have blood gushing everywhere. 1559 01:08:15,424 --> 01:08:16,525 And they can actually see it, 1560 01:08:16,525 --> 01:08:17,726 and it's actually something tangible. 1561 01:08:17,726 --> 01:08:19,662 - It heightened the performance 1562 01:08:19,662 --> 01:08:22,531 because I had this contraption around me. 1563 01:08:22,531 --> 01:08:24,733 I had this blood that's about to spew all over. 1564 01:08:24,733 --> 01:08:28,437 - It enhances the whole reality of the film. 1565 01:08:28,437 --> 01:08:30,573 It's not pretend, it's real. 1566 01:08:30,573 --> 01:08:32,408 - All of us got pulled into this world 1567 01:08:32,408 --> 01:08:34,643 in a very real and grounded way, 1568 01:08:34,643 --> 01:08:38,214 that we may not have been able to be pulled into, 1569 01:08:38,214 --> 01:08:39,815 had it all been VFX. 1570 01:08:39,815 --> 01:08:43,619 - Your imagination doesn't have to work nearly as hard 1571 01:08:43,619 --> 01:08:45,788 with a killer doll than with a ping pong ball. 1572 01:08:45,788 --> 01:08:47,723 - It's hard when you're just in front of a green screen 1573 01:08:47,723 --> 01:08:49,692 and it's like, "Now imagine that you're guts 1574 01:08:49,692 --> 01:08:51,627 are being torn out of your body." 1575 01:08:51,627 --> 01:08:52,695 Cool, how do I imagine that? 1576 01:08:52,695 --> 01:08:53,729 But if you see yourself in it, 1577 01:08:53,729 --> 01:08:55,698 you almost get that feeling already. 1578 01:08:55,698 --> 01:08:57,633 - When you put all of that together 1579 01:08:57,633 --> 01:08:59,535 it's like magic, you get to play. 1580 01:08:59,535 --> 01:09:01,604 - And there's something so powerful about that, 1581 01:09:01,604 --> 01:09:03,539 because you're not imagining something, 1582 01:09:03,539 --> 01:09:06,542 you are really experiencing something together. 1583 01:09:06,542 --> 01:09:10,513 - So I think that Chucky is physical, 1584 01:09:10,513 --> 01:09:12,414 it really, really helps the world. 1585 01:09:12,414 --> 01:09:13,749 - Chucky's a doll. 1586 01:09:13,749 --> 01:09:15,551 So that when he walks around and you see it, 1587 01:09:15,551 --> 01:09:17,453 it looks like Chucky. You know, 1588 01:09:17,453 --> 01:09:19,522 it looks like the real thing. 1589 01:09:19,522 --> 01:09:21,757 So you watch the scene and the scene is real. 1590 01:09:21,757 --> 01:09:23,592 - He feels so real in those movies, 1591 01:09:23,592 --> 01:09:24,760 because it was all practical, 1592 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,629 and you actually see the light bouncing off. 1593 01:09:26,629 --> 01:09:28,697 And it feels, you can tell the difference 1594 01:09:28,697 --> 01:09:31,667 between the CG Yoda, and the Yoda 1595 01:09:31,667 --> 01:09:33,536 from "Empire Strikes Back." 1596 01:09:33,536 --> 01:09:34,870 - You got to buy into it. 1597 01:09:34,870 --> 01:09:37,640 And when it's a practical thing that looks real, 1598 01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,441 that helps you buy into it. 1599 01:09:39,441 --> 01:09:40,676 - I think at least having something there 1600 01:09:40,676 --> 01:09:43,779 as sort of a marker, really, really helps 1601 01:09:43,779 --> 01:09:46,415 the acting process, just from an actor's standpoint. 1602 01:09:46,415 --> 01:09:47,416 Yeah. 1603 01:09:47,416 --> 01:09:48,851 - And it saves money. 1604 01:09:48,851 --> 01:09:53,455 - I find that it's financially, it's a saving grace. 1605 01:09:53,455 --> 01:09:54,657 When we did the last two films 1606 01:09:54,657 --> 01:09:56,392 that were direct to video, 1607 01:09:56,392 --> 01:09:58,494 the budget was substantially lower. 1608 01:09:58,494 --> 01:10:00,095 The budget for the whole movie 1609 01:10:00,095 --> 01:10:01,730 was Kevin Yagher's budget for building 1610 01:10:01,730 --> 01:10:03,532 the puppets for the first film. 1611 01:10:03,532 --> 01:10:04,833 - They want it to be more. 1612 01:10:04,833 --> 01:10:06,802 They want it to be cheaper and have bigger stars, 1613 01:10:06,802 --> 01:10:09,305 and cost more and music, and everything. 1614 01:10:09,305 --> 01:10:10,539 It's always like that. 1615 01:10:10,539 --> 01:10:12,808 And there were only three puppeteers allowed 1616 01:10:12,808 --> 01:10:15,544 to go up from the United States, including myself. 1617 01:10:15,544 --> 01:10:17,546 So I couldn't be behind the monitor watching, 1618 01:10:17,546 --> 01:10:19,548 I had to focus on performance, as well. 1619 01:10:19,548 --> 01:10:21,717 But we also lucked into some local people 1620 01:10:21,717 --> 01:10:23,752 that really rose to the occasion, 1621 01:10:23,752 --> 01:10:26,488 and were really great, and did an amazing job. 1622 01:10:26,488 --> 01:10:27,523 It would have been nice to have had time 1623 01:10:27,523 --> 01:10:30,226 to rehearse prior to shooting. 1624 01:10:33,395 --> 01:10:34,396 But we dove in and we were rehearsing 1625 01:10:34,396 --> 01:10:35,564 while we were shooting. 1626 01:10:35,564 --> 01:10:37,666 And given the resources and the time, 1627 01:10:37,666 --> 01:10:40,302 I think everybody did a really amazing job. 1628 01:11:22,011 --> 01:11:24,747 - And then the challenge was to bring all 1629 01:11:24,747 --> 01:11:28,617 of these characters from different aspects of the franchise, 1630 01:11:28,617 --> 01:11:30,586 and put them on collision courses, 1631 01:11:31,086 --> 01:11:33,622 and see what happens. 1632 01:11:33,622 --> 01:11:34,790 - That's the thing about the franchise is, 1633 01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:37,526 it's able to introduce brand new elements, 1634 01:11:37,526 --> 01:11:40,663 and then weave them in seamlessly. 1635 01:11:40,663 --> 01:11:42,564 And then they're just a part of the franchise. 1636 01:11:42,564 --> 01:11:45,868 So by the time you see in "Cult of Chucky" Nica 1637 01:11:45,868 --> 01:11:49,438 talking to Tiffany, it's like, oh yeah that makes sense. 1638 01:11:49,438 --> 01:11:51,573 - What happens when Andy Barclay 1639 01:11:51,573 --> 01:11:54,543 and Nica Pierce come together? 1640 01:11:54,543 --> 01:11:57,479 - And Fiona is such a great actress, first of all. 1641 01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,648 She is inspiringly good. 1642 01:11:59,648 --> 01:12:01,650 I really wish that we got to do more together 1643 01:12:01,650 --> 01:12:03,552 than the one scene that we had. 1644 01:12:03,552 --> 01:12:05,354 But the one scene that we had was like 1645 01:12:05,354 --> 01:12:06,722 the highlight of it for me. 1646 01:12:06,722 --> 01:12:09,591 Because I was really looking forward to working with her. 1647 01:12:09,591 --> 01:12:11,393 - I just think it's more 1648 01:12:13,128 --> 01:12:16,432 interesting to play the "bad guy". 1649 01:12:16,432 --> 01:12:17,433 - I'm done. 1650 01:12:17,433 --> 01:12:18,567 - You're done? 1651 01:12:18,567 --> 01:12:19,668 Yeah, that's interesting. - I'm done. 1652 01:12:19,668 --> 01:12:21,470 I'm not doing them anymore. 1653 01:12:21,470 --> 01:12:23,605 - I don't want to play the victim anymore. 1654 01:12:23,605 --> 01:12:25,341 You guys should just reverse. 1655 01:12:25,341 --> 01:12:26,175 - We are. - We are. 1656 01:12:26,175 --> 01:12:28,844 We are. 1657 01:12:33,816 --> 01:12:37,519 - You have Tiffany, who's inhabiting Jennifer Tilly's body. 1658 01:12:37,519 --> 01:12:40,322 You have Fiona, which is really genius, 1659 01:12:40,322 --> 01:12:41,824 inhabiting Chucky's body, 1660 01:12:41,824 --> 01:12:44,426 and you know Chucky is her dad, Brad Dourif. 1661 01:12:44,426 --> 01:12:45,761 So she's basically playing Brad. 1662 01:12:45,761 --> 01:12:47,930 - This last movie I was just Like, 1663 01:12:49,298 --> 01:12:50,566 how did this happen? 1664 01:12:50,566 --> 01:12:52,568 How am I the lead of this movie? 1665 01:12:52,568 --> 01:12:55,604 - She becomes Chucky, ah, so brilliant. 1666 01:12:55,604 --> 01:12:58,474 That soul of Chucky is in her. 1667 01:12:58,474 --> 01:12:59,708 - It would be almost offensive 1668 01:12:59,708 --> 01:13:01,443 for anybody else to be possessed 1669 01:13:01,443 --> 01:13:04,613 by Chucky, except for Fiona. 1670 01:13:04,613 --> 01:13:05,681 Even with something weird, incestuous and gross 1671 01:13:05,681 --> 01:13:07,416 about that you could think, 1672 01:13:07,416 --> 01:13:08,450 it doesn't feel that way at all. 1673 01:13:08,450 --> 01:13:10,119 It feels really organic 1674 01:13:10,119 --> 01:13:11,019 and I like it. 1675 01:13:11,019 --> 01:13:12,121 Like it should be that way. 1676 01:13:12,121 --> 01:13:12,721 - Yes. - Yeah. 1677 01:13:13,122 --> 01:13:14,623 - Somebody else doing Brad would be sacrilage. 1678 01:13:14,623 --> 01:13:17,760 - It's kind of weird, because like there's 1679 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,896 a young female version of a guy you knew. 1680 01:13:21,497 --> 01:13:22,631 Well, that's Fiona. 1681 01:13:22,631 --> 01:13:24,767 - She is such a brilliant actress. 1682 01:13:24,767 --> 01:13:27,736 And I saw her walking out there, I saw Brad. 1683 01:13:27,736 --> 01:13:29,438 And it's weird, 'cause I've never actually acted 1684 01:13:29,438 --> 01:13:31,507 with the real Brad. 1685 01:13:31,507 --> 01:13:33,509 I mean, off screen of course, doing the voice overs. 1686 01:13:33,509 --> 01:13:35,411 But when she was walking towards me, 1687 01:13:35,411 --> 01:13:37,613 I mean it was really, really sexy. 1688 01:13:37,613 --> 01:13:38,680 She really sort of morphed into Brad. 1689 01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,617 - It was just like a cacophony 1690 01:13:41,617 --> 01:13:43,786 of all of these emotions going into doing it. 1691 01:13:43,786 --> 01:13:46,655 That I would have a chance to play this thing 1692 01:13:47,656 --> 01:13:51,760 that my dad is famous for doing. 1693 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,662 - I felt a little bit bad for Fiona, 1694 01:13:53,662 --> 01:13:56,432 because when Don was like, "Quick, quick," 1695 01:13:56,432 --> 01:13:58,367 I would be like lunge at her, 1696 01:13:58,367 --> 01:14:00,536 and our teeth would clatter. 1697 01:14:00,536 --> 01:14:02,571 - I would get her lipstick all over me. 1698 01:14:02,571 --> 01:14:04,840 And so we couldn't just go again, 1699 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,709 'cause there was a big makeup reset each time. 1700 01:14:07,709 --> 01:14:09,578 - Then she'd pull away and I'd see she had lipstick 1701 01:14:09,578 --> 01:14:11,713 all over her face. 1702 01:14:11,713 --> 01:14:15,350 And I said to her, "Fiona when Entertainment Tonight asks 1703 01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:16,485 if I'm a good kisser, 1704 01:14:16,485 --> 01:14:17,786 will you just please lie and say yes?" 1705 01:14:17,786 --> 01:14:19,555 - It was really fun working with Jennifer. 1706 01:14:19,555 --> 01:14:21,323 I had wanted to my whole life. 1707 01:14:22,658 --> 01:14:24,259 I think it was intimidating 1708 01:14:24,259 --> 01:14:26,595 'cause she's so funny. 1709 01:14:26,595 --> 01:14:29,465 - I would like to kiss Fiona in a controlled environment, 1710 01:14:29,465 --> 01:14:30,666 because I want to redeem myself. 1711 01:14:30,666 --> 01:14:33,435 - Making this movie was so fun. 1712 01:14:33,435 --> 01:14:35,304 It was like surreal fun. 1713 01:14:35,304 --> 01:14:36,538 I just had a ball. 1714 01:14:36,538 --> 01:14:37,873 You can ask your dad. 1715 01:14:38,941 --> 01:14:41,510 We were all kind of laughing the whole time. 1716 01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:44,713 Meanwhile my dad is on the floor. 1717 01:14:44,713 --> 01:14:47,549 Your dad is always in the corner on the floor. 1718 01:14:47,549 --> 01:14:48,650 Those are her eye lines. 1719 01:14:48,650 --> 01:14:50,786 Yeah. 1720 01:14:50,786 --> 01:14:52,654 By now, I may as well introduce myself 1721 01:14:52,654 --> 01:14:54,990 as Tony's daughter, and the filmmaker. 1722 01:14:54,990 --> 01:14:57,693 I set out to meet all these people surrounding the franchise 1723 01:14:57,693 --> 01:14:59,728 whose names had been a big part of my childhood, 1724 01:14:59,728 --> 01:15:01,530 but I never had the chance to meet. 1725 01:15:01,530 --> 01:15:03,665 I haven't officially met everybody 1726 01:15:03,665 --> 01:15:05,834 who's worked on the Chucky movies. 1727 01:15:05,834 --> 01:15:08,837 But I feel like I've known Brad my whole life. 1728 01:15:08,837 --> 01:15:13,475 Like you have, it's so surreal meeting you now, 1729 01:15:13,475 --> 01:15:15,344 because you've been a part of my childhood 1730 01:15:15,344 --> 01:15:17,446 since I was practically born. 1731 01:15:17,446 --> 01:15:18,680 But I'd never met you 'til now, 1732 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,516 but you've killed my dad before. 1733 01:15:20,516 --> 01:15:21,683 And the only- 1734 01:15:21,683 --> 01:15:23,752 - And see I never think of that. 1735 01:15:23,752 --> 01:15:25,654 There's all these weird layers of all that. 1736 01:15:25,654 --> 01:15:27,656 Like everybody who've I've 1737 01:15:27,656 --> 01:15:28,991 been interviewing for this is like 1738 01:15:30,392 --> 01:15:31,493 in one way or another been a part 1739 01:15:31,493 --> 01:15:33,462 of how I've grown up. 1740 01:15:33,462 --> 01:15:34,596 - That's interesting. 1741 01:15:34,596 --> 01:15:36,331 Chucky's been so at the helm 1742 01:15:36,331 --> 01:15:38,200 of my family I think. 1743 01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:38,834 So it's like kind of- 1744 01:15:39,201 --> 01:15:40,536 - You were how old when it came into your life? 1745 01:15:40,536 --> 01:15:42,571 - You were a little one. 1746 01:15:42,571 --> 01:15:44,506 You were like three-years-old, four-years-old. 1747 01:15:44,506 --> 01:15:46,675 - So you literally grew up with somebody, 1748 01:15:46,675 --> 01:15:48,443 like you grew up with them in the family. 1749 01:15:48,443 --> 01:15:50,379 - I view him as a little brother. 1750 01:15:50,379 --> 01:15:51,547 Because I'm the youngest, 1751 01:15:51,547 --> 01:15:53,515 I always wanted a little sibling. 1752 01:15:53,515 --> 01:15:54,583 I thought it was very interesting 1753 01:15:54,583 --> 01:15:57,519 that Fiona and I both share growing up 1754 01:15:57,519 --> 01:15:59,621 with this doll, but in different aspects 1755 01:15:59,621 --> 01:16:02,324 of her dad was an actor, and mine was the head puppeteer. 1756 01:16:02,324 --> 01:16:05,327 - I was maybe six or five? 1757 01:16:05,327 --> 01:16:06,361 - You were young. 1758 01:16:06,361 --> 01:16:06,995 I was young. 1759 01:16:08,263 --> 01:16:09,665 - Still a baby. 1760 01:16:09,665 --> 01:16:11,700 - I remember seeing him in the voiceover booth, 1761 01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:13,535 and he was like, screaming like he 1762 01:16:13,535 --> 01:16:16,505 was being burned alive. 1763 01:16:16,505 --> 01:16:18,674 Which I guess he was in the movie. 1764 01:16:18,674 --> 01:16:22,444 And I ran and hid under a desk? 1765 01:16:22,444 --> 01:16:24,513 - Yeah, you ran, no ran out of the thing 1766 01:16:24,513 --> 01:16:26,448 into the parking lot. 1767 01:16:26,448 --> 01:16:28,750 - You start screaming and crying. 1768 01:16:28,750 --> 01:16:32,788 You run back upstairs into your bedroom, 1769 01:16:32,788 --> 01:16:36,892 and hopped on your bed crying hysterically. 1770 01:16:36,892 --> 01:16:40,562 Telling everybody that you weren't gonna go downstairs, 1771 01:16:40,562 --> 01:16:42,297 because the "bad people" came. 1772 01:16:42,297 --> 01:16:44,433 The bad people were here. 1773 01:16:44,433 --> 01:16:47,402 And I look and there's Tiffany 1774 01:16:47,402 --> 01:16:50,606 and Chucky sitting on our coach. 1775 01:16:50,606 --> 01:16:52,374 - And poor little thing came in 1776 01:16:52,374 --> 01:16:54,176 and heard her daddy dying. 1777 01:16:54,176 --> 01:16:55,577 I did. 1778 01:16:55,577 --> 01:16:58,347 - Being burned to death, and freaked out. 1779 01:17:02,918 --> 01:17:06,488 - I was so mad at him for leaving the dolls out. 1780 01:17:06,488 --> 01:17:08,690 'Cause you were just absolutely traumatized. 1781 01:17:08,690 --> 01:17:11,693 I've been in a theater and watched my dad 1782 01:17:11,693 --> 01:17:13,762 watched his head explode in a microwave, 1783 01:17:13,762 --> 01:17:15,564 or whatever, over and over again. 1784 01:17:15,564 --> 01:17:17,833 And I don't like it. 1785 01:17:17,833 --> 01:17:19,768 And I still don't like to watch him die. 1786 01:17:19,768 --> 01:17:20,769 I feel like that something, 1787 01:17:20,769 --> 01:17:22,604 'cause my dad dies in one of the movies. 1788 01:17:22,604 --> 01:17:24,606 Yeah, that's right. 1789 01:17:24,606 --> 01:17:25,674 So I feel like we have 1790 01:17:25,674 --> 01:17:27,542 this mutual understanding of what it's like 1791 01:17:27,542 --> 01:17:28,744 to watch our parents die. 1792 01:17:28,744 --> 01:17:31,613 - To watch our parents die, yeah. 1793 01:17:31,613 --> 01:17:35,550 I love the scene where your dad gets decapitated, 1794 01:17:35,550 --> 01:17:37,719 in "Seed of Chucky," that was hilarious. 1795 01:17:37,719 --> 01:17:40,689 But I also loved the doll's reaction to it. 1796 01:17:40,689 --> 01:17:43,358 You know, they get spattered by his blood 1797 01:17:43,358 --> 01:17:45,193 and they're all turned on. 1798 01:17:46,528 --> 01:17:47,663 I watched that 1799 01:17:47,663 --> 01:17:48,697 when I was eight by the way. 1800 01:17:48,697 --> 01:17:50,632 - Did that traumatize you? 1801 01:17:50,632 --> 01:17:52,701 Yes. 1802 01:17:52,701 --> 01:17:54,670 - But didn't he show you the head and you know, 1803 01:17:54,670 --> 01:17:56,171 just like, "See this is like?" 1804 01:17:56,171 --> 01:17:57,439 No. 1805 01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,842 And my only knowledge of you growing up 1806 01:18:00,842 --> 01:18:03,445 was that you kissed my dad's decapitated head. 1807 01:18:03,445 --> 01:18:05,781 - I know, isn't that gross? That's so gross. 1808 01:18:05,781 --> 01:18:08,450 I would have kissed his regular head, too. 1809 01:18:08,450 --> 01:18:09,685 Due to these types of movies filming 1810 01:18:09,685 --> 01:18:12,421 so far away, they basically formed second families 1811 01:18:12,421 --> 01:18:13,588 while away from their real ones. 1812 01:18:13,588 --> 01:18:15,624 - Not only do we play with dolls, 1813 01:18:15,624 --> 01:18:17,893 but we made our living playing with dolls. 1814 01:18:17,893 --> 01:18:19,728 So it always felt there was a piece missing, 1815 01:18:19,728 --> 01:18:22,497 and I had to meet my second family. 1816 01:18:22,497 --> 01:18:24,332 Like it wasn't complete until I met everybody. 1817 01:18:24,332 --> 01:18:25,834 - And feel this. 1818 01:18:26,668 --> 01:18:28,336 I mean you've grown up with this stuff but- 1819 01:18:28,336 --> 01:18:29,471 - Oh wow. - It's nothing. 1820 01:18:29,471 --> 01:18:32,441 - It's light. - it's a fake ax. 1821 01:18:32,441 --> 01:18:33,542 - For me it's kind of cool 1822 01:18:33,542 --> 01:18:34,676 that you're doing this documentary, 1823 01:18:34,676 --> 01:18:38,747 because for me I have my two families that get to meet. 1824 01:18:38,747 --> 01:18:40,382 'Cause these are the people I go to work 1825 01:18:40,382 --> 01:18:41,583 with and have fun with, 1826 01:18:41,583 --> 01:18:44,586 and think of it as extended family. 1827 01:18:44,586 --> 01:18:47,656 And for you guys to all meet up and actually make 1828 01:18:47,656 --> 01:18:50,192 that family unit, and that family dynamic larger, 1829 01:18:50,192 --> 01:18:51,426 is kind of cool. 1830 01:18:51,426 --> 01:18:54,396 - You know, all of us were like a family. 1831 01:18:54,396 --> 01:18:56,565 I would say a mostly functional family, 1832 01:18:56,565 --> 01:18:58,667 occasionally dysfunctional as all. 1833 01:18:58,667 --> 01:19:00,502 - You know, you work really long hours, 1834 01:19:00,502 --> 01:19:02,604 and it feels like camp. 1835 01:19:02,604 --> 01:19:05,440 - Going off to Chucky camp, as my wife and I call it. 1836 01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:07,509 - You can't do anything else 1837 01:19:07,509 --> 01:19:09,678 besides work with these people and make this thing. 1838 01:19:09,678 --> 01:19:12,714 - Given that the films are in Canada, or Romania, 1839 01:19:12,714 --> 01:19:14,316 and they're never here, I definitely don't look forward 1840 01:19:14,316 --> 01:19:16,451 to the time gone. 1841 01:19:16,451 --> 01:19:17,919 - Being away from 1842 01:19:19,354 --> 01:19:20,722 home was horrible. 1843 01:19:20,722 --> 01:19:22,591 My wife and I met when we were 16, 1844 01:19:23,391 --> 01:19:25,761 on an archeological dig in the Negev Desert 1845 01:19:25,761 --> 01:19:30,365 between Jordan and Israel, and we're inseparable. 1846 01:19:30,365 --> 01:19:31,500 And I would be away for two, 1847 01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:33,602 maybe three weeks at a time, 1848 01:19:33,602 --> 01:19:36,438 then I would fly home for a weekend and then go back. 1849 01:19:36,438 --> 01:19:38,673 It was very difficult. 1850 01:19:38,673 --> 01:19:40,675 - You're going somewhere where it's a different time zone, 1851 01:19:40,675 --> 01:19:43,411 so you're not gonna be able to be plugged in 1852 01:19:43,411 --> 01:19:45,447 just on the most basic routine. 1853 01:19:45,447 --> 01:19:46,515 - I mean there was no Skyping, or anything else, 1854 01:19:46,515 --> 01:19:48,583 so a lot of phone calls. 1855 01:19:48,583 --> 01:19:50,585 - Not much films in LA these days, 1856 01:19:50,585 --> 01:19:53,622 so you're always off somewhere. 1857 01:19:53,622 --> 01:19:55,657 - It's a job that takes you physically 1858 01:19:55,657 --> 01:19:57,726 to different places a lot. 1859 01:19:57,726 --> 01:19:59,394 And it's really time consuming when you're working. 1860 01:19:59,394 --> 01:20:00,595 - I remember they were off to Romania, 1861 01:20:00,595 --> 01:20:02,597 and then Don told me afterwards there 1862 01:20:02,597 --> 01:20:05,600 was like terrible weather and stuff. 1863 01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,502 It sounded like a real adventure. 1864 01:20:07,502 --> 01:20:09,738 And that's the bad thing about doing a voice 1865 01:20:09,738 --> 01:20:11,773 is you just miss all that, you know. 1866 01:20:11,773 --> 01:20:13,742 - Sometimes it was just goddam lonely 1867 01:20:14,643 --> 01:20:17,479 in doing some of those films. 1868 01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,548 I mean, I would be in this huge room, 1869 01:20:19,548 --> 01:20:20,749 I mean a massive room. 1870 01:20:20,749 --> 01:20:21,483 They could put an orchestra in there. 1871 01:20:21,483 --> 01:20:23,451 And I had a mic. 1872 01:20:23,451 --> 01:20:24,586 And everybody was sitting in 1873 01:20:24,586 --> 01:20:26,621 the sound booth way far away. 1874 01:20:26,621 --> 01:20:28,390 - 'Cause everyone just thinks, 1875 01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:30,458 oh you spent all that time together. 1876 01:20:30,458 --> 01:20:32,727 No, I was just in a box with a mic. 1877 01:20:32,727 --> 01:20:35,764 - And I just did dialogue by myself all day. 1878 01:20:35,764 --> 01:20:38,700 And thank god when Jennifer finally came. 1879 01:20:38,700 --> 01:20:40,368 - Well, I suppose it's sort of changed for me 1880 01:20:40,368 --> 01:20:41,403 since I've had a family. 1881 01:20:42,804 --> 01:20:46,575 You know, that is now part of the decision making process. 1882 01:20:46,575 --> 01:20:48,543 - The first Chucky, the kids were somewhere 1883 01:20:48,543 --> 01:20:51,746 between five and eight, the two of them. 1884 01:20:51,746 --> 01:20:54,516 And it was difficult, it was difficult for everybody. 1885 01:20:54,516 --> 01:20:56,651 'Cause I was a father that until that point 1886 01:20:56,651 --> 01:20:58,520 had been there for everything. 1887 01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,489 - It doesn't bode well as far as, you know, 1888 01:21:01,489 --> 01:21:03,625 being able to do your job well, 1889 01:21:03,625 --> 01:21:05,694 and be a parent well at the same time. 1890 01:21:05,694 --> 01:21:08,396 One kind of gets put by the wayside. 1891 01:21:08,396 --> 01:21:09,764 - And you work a 15 or 17 hour day, 1892 01:21:09,764 --> 01:21:12,500 and then you go home and you crash for a few hours, 1893 01:21:12,500 --> 01:21:13,501 and then you have to come back and do it again. 1894 01:21:13,501 --> 01:21:14,669 - But it's not a nine to five. 1895 01:21:14,669 --> 01:21:17,672 It is a whatever time we would like you to come in, 1896 01:21:17,672 --> 01:21:19,507 and whatever time we would like you to leave. 1897 01:21:19,507 --> 01:21:20,742 - When you're filming a movie, you're going to war. 1898 01:21:20,742 --> 01:21:22,644 I don't want to make it sound like that, 1899 01:21:22,644 --> 01:21:23,545 'cause you're not killing people, 1900 01:21:23,545 --> 01:21:24,813 but you're killing yourself. 1901 01:21:24,813 --> 01:21:29,150 - It's just not normal in the way that it normally is. 1902 01:21:29,851 --> 01:21:32,387 I mean people go to work and they come home, 1903 01:21:32,387 --> 01:21:33,455 and then they're home. 1904 01:21:33,455 --> 01:21:34,589 - So the time that you put, 1905 01:21:34,589 --> 01:21:36,725 when I did "Sextupets" I worked 22 hour days. 1906 01:21:36,725 --> 01:21:39,761 Literally, out of a 70, 65-day shoot. 1907 01:21:39,761 --> 01:21:44,532 I was there probably 22 hours at least 50 times. 1908 01:21:44,532 --> 01:21:46,401 - I was working from 8:00 in the morning 1909 01:21:46,401 --> 01:21:49,671 'til 11:00 at night, five days a week. 1910 01:21:49,671 --> 01:21:51,473 And then also working on the weekends 1911 01:21:51,473 --> 01:21:53,508 when I could have time. 1912 01:21:53,508 --> 01:21:55,744 And I had a newborn baby at home. 1913 01:21:55,744 --> 01:21:58,280 You know when I came home it was very late. 1914 01:21:58,280 --> 01:21:59,648 I had to get up early. 1915 01:21:59,648 --> 01:22:00,749 Or you'd just be gone for- 1916 01:22:00,749 --> 01:22:05,654 - Or I'd be gone for weeks, or months. 1917 01:22:05,654 --> 01:22:08,757 - Every single person is dedicating their lives 1918 01:22:08,757 --> 01:22:12,661 for the next two weeks, seven weeks, or six months. 1919 01:22:12,661 --> 01:22:14,763 - With "Lord of the Rings" it was a year and a half. 1920 01:22:14,763 --> 01:22:17,365 "Master and Commander" was six months. 1921 01:22:17,365 --> 01:22:18,533 - Once you're committed to the film 1922 01:22:18,533 --> 01:22:20,502 you're at their disposal. 1923 01:22:20,502 --> 01:22:22,404 - If they said that now, I'd be like, 1924 01:22:22,404 --> 01:22:24,572 "Well, can my family come and visit? 1925 01:22:24,572 --> 01:22:26,374 And how would that work?" 1926 01:22:26,374 --> 01:22:27,442 So it's part of the process. 1927 01:22:27,442 --> 01:22:29,010 - The second season of "Phineas" 1928 01:22:30,578 --> 01:22:31,579 I had to really put my foot down 1929 01:22:31,579 --> 01:22:33,448 about hiring new people, 1930 01:22:33,448 --> 01:22:34,816 and building the budget of the show, 1931 01:22:34,816 --> 01:22:37,786 because I didn't want to miss my daughter growing up. 1932 01:22:37,786 --> 01:22:40,355 - But it's the life that we've chosen, 1933 01:22:40,355 --> 01:22:41,756 you know, it's nomadic. 1934 01:22:41,756 --> 01:22:44,693 - But if I had not had a kid in the mix, 1935 01:22:44,693 --> 01:22:47,495 I might have continued to work that hard. 1936 01:22:47,495 --> 01:22:48,563 - You know, that's why I see why people thank 1937 01:22:48,563 --> 01:22:50,265 their children and their families 1938 01:22:50,265 --> 01:22:51,433 when they win awards. 1939 01:22:51,433 --> 01:22:53,568 Yeah, I'm able to provide for guys 1940 01:22:53,568 --> 01:22:55,637 with my passion, and my art, and my hard work. 1941 01:22:55,637 --> 01:22:57,505 But when you get those statues its like time 1942 01:22:57,505 --> 01:22:58,740 to sit there and go, "Thank you. 1943 01:22:58,740 --> 01:23:00,575 Thank you guys for being understanding. 1944 01:23:00,575 --> 01:23:03,144 'Cause honestly without you I couldn't do this." 1945 01:23:04,312 --> 01:23:05,647 - It's hard, it's an interesting question. 1946 01:23:05,647 --> 01:23:06,614 No one's every asked me that. 1947 01:23:06,614 --> 01:23:10,485 No one's ever cared. That's so nice. 1948 01:23:10,485 --> 01:23:12,754 I care 'cause my dad would have to go. 1949 01:23:12,754 --> 01:23:14,789 - Of course, I know right when you asked that question, 1950 01:23:14,789 --> 01:23:16,891 I just thought that's such an interesting perspective. 1951 01:23:16,891 --> 01:23:20,395 My father and I are basically like best friends. 1952 01:23:20,395 --> 01:23:23,732 Yay! 1953 01:23:23,732 --> 01:23:27,435 - Can I have a share for your camera? Can we share? 1954 01:23:27,435 --> 01:23:28,503 Take yours. 1955 01:23:30,505 --> 01:23:32,140 - Do it again. 1956 01:23:32,140 --> 01:23:33,341 Hi Daddy. 1957 01:23:34,142 --> 01:23:35,310 - Hey you. 1958 01:23:35,310 --> 01:23:36,444 - I can feel comfortable talking 1959 01:23:36,444 --> 01:23:37,545 about anything with him. 1960 01:23:37,545 --> 01:23:39,414 He's kind of a rock. 1961 01:23:39,414 --> 01:23:40,915 I admire him a lot. 1962 01:23:43,585 --> 01:23:44,786 - It really sucks when you're gone 1963 01:23:44,786 --> 01:23:47,422 and it's your kid's birthday and you can't be there. 1964 01:23:49,824 --> 01:23:51,593 That's the time you want to be there the most, 1965 01:23:51,593 --> 01:23:53,928 and then you're stuck, you know, 1966 01:23:55,597 --> 01:23:57,766 in some hotel room somewhere waiting 1967 01:23:58,767 --> 01:24:02,370 for the alarm to go off so you can go stick 1968 01:24:02,370 --> 01:24:04,005 a knife in Fiona's leg. 1969 01:24:05,473 --> 01:24:06,875 Those two worlds don't mix very well. 1970 01:24:08,543 --> 01:24:09,844 I don't know how to put it. 1971 01:24:11,780 --> 01:24:14,616 As a six, seven, eight-year-old 1972 01:24:14,616 --> 01:24:17,452 you have your other half so to speak, leave 1973 01:24:17,452 --> 01:24:19,687 on a plane for this movie, 1974 01:24:19,687 --> 01:24:21,556 you kind of have like a little spark taken out of you. 1975 01:24:21,556 --> 01:24:23,525 - Part of it too is knowing that you guys 1976 01:24:23,525 --> 01:24:24,592 aren't gonna be home forever. 1977 01:24:24,592 --> 01:24:26,561 And it's like you want to get, 1978 01:24:26,561 --> 01:24:28,663 you want to be there for everything, 1979 01:24:28,663 --> 01:24:32,300 'cause time just moves so fast. 1980 01:24:32,300 --> 01:24:34,469 - I think he probably missed out 1981 01:24:34,469 --> 01:24:35,837 on a lot of key moments that 1982 01:24:36,671 --> 01:24:39,707 we probably both wish we had. 1983 01:24:39,707 --> 01:24:41,342 - As a parent you feel like you miss everything. 1984 01:24:41,342 --> 01:24:43,311 I mean, part of the 1985 01:24:43,311 --> 01:24:44,312 fun of being 1986 01:24:45,613 --> 01:24:47,682 a parent is the family dynamic. 1987 01:24:47,682 --> 01:24:50,552 You know, listening to all three of you kids laugh, 1988 01:24:50,552 --> 01:24:53,388 to me, is like the best thing ever. 1989 01:24:54,522 --> 01:24:57,692 So you go away and you don't have that. 1990 01:24:57,692 --> 01:25:00,595 And then you're working shitty hours. 1991 01:25:00,595 --> 01:25:02,630 And then it's an eight hour time difference. 1992 01:25:02,630 --> 01:25:04,566 And you're completely on your own. 1993 01:25:04,566 --> 01:25:06,634 And it's like you have to remind yourself 1994 01:25:06,634 --> 01:25:07,602 that you're there to be able 1995 01:25:07,602 --> 01:25:09,003 to provide for your family, 1996 01:25:09,003 --> 01:25:11,539 but at the same time it's taking away from your family. 1997 01:25:11,539 --> 01:25:12,974 So it just kind of really sucks. 1998 01:25:14,542 --> 01:25:17,445 I'm sorry. Gosh. 1999 01:25:17,445 --> 01:25:18,480 - There's some honesty for you. 2000 01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:20,381 - It's so hard to make any movie. 2001 01:25:20,381 --> 01:25:21,716 Even the worst movie ever made 2002 01:25:21,716 --> 01:25:24,719 is still hard to make, and people go through a lot. 2003 01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:27,555 So I think you want to go through it with somebody 2004 01:25:27,555 --> 01:25:28,523 that's already been through it with you. 2005 01:25:28,523 --> 01:25:33,328 - That sort of shared misery sometimes, 2006 01:25:33,328 --> 01:25:35,363 you know, shared experiences, 2007 01:25:35,363 --> 01:25:37,198 and the ups and downs of all of it. 2008 01:25:39,300 --> 01:25:40,568 It's nice having someone else you can relate to 2009 01:25:40,568 --> 01:25:41,903 that you can hang out with. 2010 01:25:41,903 --> 01:25:45,406 And it's weird, 'cause you'd go on set, and it's like, 2011 01:25:45,406 --> 01:25:46,674 "Oh, hey Carry how's it going?" 2012 01:25:46,674 --> 01:25:49,377 And last time you saw him was five years ago. 2013 01:25:49,377 --> 01:25:50,812 - And they're like your sister, 2014 01:25:50,812 --> 01:25:52,814 or your brother by the end of the shoot. 2015 01:25:52,814 --> 01:25:54,315 And then you walk off and you don't see each other. 2016 01:25:54,315 --> 01:25:55,717 And that's it. 2017 01:25:55,717 --> 01:25:56,684 - And that's it. - And then you run into them 2018 01:25:56,684 --> 01:25:57,752 like five years later, and you're like, 2019 01:25:57,752 --> 01:26:00,622 "Oh, god, how are you? What's going on?" 2020 01:26:00,622 --> 01:26:01,689 - When you have sequels 2021 01:26:01,689 --> 01:26:03,625 and you have the same characters 2022 01:26:03,625 --> 01:26:05,293 and actors that you're coming back to, 2023 01:26:05,293 --> 01:26:06,594 it's very sweet. 2024 01:26:06,594 --> 01:26:08,730 I mean there's a real sweetness to it. 2025 01:26:08,730 --> 01:26:10,632 - It's very weird, because usually after, 2026 01:26:10,632 --> 01:26:11,599 if you haven't seen somebody 2027 01:26:11,599 --> 01:26:13,601 for like 10 years or something, 2028 01:26:13,601 --> 01:26:14,702 you have a lot to catch up on. 2029 01:26:14,702 --> 01:26:16,905 But because you're in that environment 2030 01:26:16,905 --> 01:26:19,574 where you're just working on the movie it's like, 2031 01:26:19,574 --> 01:26:21,676 you just boom, fall right back into it. 2032 01:26:21,676 --> 01:26:23,278 - So and so's had a kid, and whatever, 2033 01:26:23,278 --> 01:26:24,846 and you catch up. 2034 01:26:24,846 --> 01:26:27,615 And there is this cool family dynamic with those shows. 2035 01:26:27,615 --> 01:26:31,586 - It's a real kind of special sort of life 2036 01:26:31,586 --> 01:26:33,388 that you get to have, that goes away. 2037 01:26:33,388 --> 01:26:34,389 - That goes away. 2038 01:26:34,389 --> 01:26:35,857 - It's really sad to 2039 01:26:37,258 --> 01:26:39,594 pack everything up at the end of the show, 2040 01:26:39,594 --> 01:26:41,596 and leave all these guys and gals behind. 2041 01:26:41,596 --> 01:26:43,831 - And when we wrap the show, 2042 01:26:43,831 --> 01:26:46,568 and the puppeteers and everybody were saying goodbye, 2043 01:26:46,568 --> 01:26:50,538 Don and Fiona actually drove out 2044 01:26:50,538 --> 01:26:52,373 and hung out with us for a couple of hours, 2045 01:26:52,373 --> 01:26:53,408 and said goodbye to everybody. 2046 01:26:53,408 --> 01:26:55,343 - And he gave a goodbye speech. 2047 01:26:58,413 --> 01:26:59,414 And just like, I don't know. 2048 01:26:59,414 --> 01:27:00,448 It sounds corny to talk about, 2049 01:27:00,448 --> 01:27:01,549 but just everybody in the room, 2050 01:27:01,549 --> 01:27:02,650 like there were a few people crying, 2051 01:27:02,650 --> 01:27:04,719 and they gave them all these gifts. 2052 01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:06,654 - But Don had to get up at like 5:00 in the morning 2053 01:27:06,654 --> 01:27:08,756 to go do the drone shot the next day. 2054 01:27:08,756 --> 01:27:11,392 We were all wrapped and we were gonna leave. 2055 01:27:11,392 --> 01:27:12,694 So he's like, "I'm coming out." 2056 01:27:12,694 --> 01:27:15,563 And then Fiona's like, "I'm coming with Don." 2057 01:27:15,563 --> 01:27:18,700 - And then he thanked me, and then I started crying 2058 01:27:18,700 --> 01:27:20,635 - People don't realize how seldom 2059 01:27:20,635 --> 01:27:23,538 you take away real friends from projects. 2060 01:27:23,538 --> 01:27:26,808 - Don Mancini is maybe my closest friend. 2061 01:27:26,808 --> 01:27:30,812 - Basically, my best friend now, which is so weird. 2062 01:27:30,812 --> 01:27:32,814 She's also young enough to be my daughter, 2063 01:27:32,814 --> 01:27:35,850 which makes it weirder in a way. 2064 01:27:35,850 --> 01:27:37,619 - He liked helped me through my mother's death. 2065 01:27:37,619 --> 01:27:39,821 He was with me when I found out she died. 2066 01:27:40,688 --> 01:27:43,591 He like, just feels like my family. 2067 01:27:43,591 --> 01:27:44,659 - We've been through a lot together. 2068 01:27:44,659 --> 01:27:46,494 He was at both of our daughter's bat mitzvahs. 2069 01:27:46,494 --> 01:27:48,496 He was at our daughter's wedding. 2070 01:27:48,496 --> 01:27:52,600 With me, with the loss of his parents. 2071 01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,670 You know, we've been through a lot of stuff together. 2072 01:27:55,670 --> 01:27:58,573 - I've always looked up to him since I was eight years old. 2073 01:27:58,573 --> 01:28:00,842 And then we didn't talk for many, many years 2074 01:28:00,842 --> 01:28:03,645 through my high school times and everything. 2075 01:28:03,645 --> 01:28:05,513 And then I guess probably late in my 20s 2076 01:28:05,513 --> 01:28:07,548 is when we reconnected. 2077 01:28:07,548 --> 01:28:08,716 - We have a lot in common. 2078 01:28:08,716 --> 01:28:12,253 We have very similar taste in music, 2079 01:28:12,253 --> 01:28:13,521 and movies, obviously. 2080 01:28:13,521 --> 01:28:14,656 So we just sort of reconnected. 2081 01:28:14,656 --> 01:28:17,525 And it's like, oh he's a person now. 2082 01:28:17,525 --> 01:28:18,726 - And Alex Vincent is a close friend. 2083 01:28:18,726 --> 01:28:20,862 And Don has always been a close friend. 2084 01:28:20,862 --> 01:28:22,797 We never lost touch in the intervening years 2085 01:28:22,797 --> 01:28:26,167 between "Chucky 2" and "Cult" when I came back. 2086 01:28:27,368 --> 01:28:28,569 - I am her favorite director. 2087 01:28:28,569 --> 01:28:30,271 - He's my favorite director ever. 2088 01:28:30,271 --> 01:28:30,972 - Jennifer's awesome. 2089 01:28:33,608 --> 01:28:36,944 She's one of the funniest people you will ever meet. 2090 01:28:36,944 --> 01:28:40,448 - And I'm a little intimidated by her, honestly. 2091 01:28:40,448 --> 01:28:42,817 She does nothing to make me feel that, 2092 01:28:42,817 --> 01:28:47,588 but she's just this bigger than life character. 2093 01:28:47,588 --> 01:28:49,724 - David Kirschner, I adore him, he's a sweetheart. 2094 01:28:49,724 --> 01:28:51,659 On every single film that I've been on 2095 01:28:51,659 --> 01:28:54,462 he has been like a very calm, 2096 01:28:54,462 --> 01:28:56,497 sort of avuncular presence. 2097 01:28:56,497 --> 01:28:57,732 - It would been bizarre for me to stay close 2098 01:28:57,732 --> 01:28:59,534 with him then, like 24-years-old calling, 2099 01:28:59,534 --> 01:29:01,302 "Hi Alex's mom, it's Christine, 2100 01:29:01,302 --> 01:29:02,470 can I talk to Alex?" 2101 01:29:02,470 --> 01:29:04,972 That would have been deviant. 2102 01:29:05,740 --> 01:29:07,375 Creepy, a little creepy, yeah. 2103 01:29:07,375 --> 01:29:08,543 So that didn't happen. 2104 01:29:08,543 --> 01:29:09,677 - You know, we only reconnected 2105 01:29:09,677 --> 01:29:11,579 maybe six years ago or something like that. 2106 01:29:11,579 --> 01:29:13,815 But we talk very often. 2107 01:29:13,815 --> 01:29:15,583 - I really love the person Alex has grown into being. 2108 01:29:15,583 --> 01:29:17,552 - No, I think it's really cool 2109 01:29:17,552 --> 01:29:19,587 how Brad and Fiona have a chance 2110 01:29:19,587 --> 01:29:21,589 to actually share something as intimate 2111 01:29:21,589 --> 01:29:23,658 as this incredible franchise. 2112 01:29:23,658 --> 01:29:27,362 - Fiona is like really truly, a family operation 2113 01:29:27,362 --> 01:29:29,364 that she is the daughter of the man 2114 01:29:29,364 --> 01:29:30,665 who's voiced Chucky for 30 years. 2115 01:29:30,665 --> 01:29:33,501 - As a father that has daughters, 2116 01:29:33,501 --> 01:29:36,771 it touches me that Fiona is, 2117 01:29:36,771 --> 01:29:39,173 she's truly the "Seed of Chucky." 2118 01:29:41,542 --> 01:29:43,644 - Also, now, it's more of me 2119 01:29:43,644 --> 01:29:44,812 just being very proud of her, 2120 01:29:44,812 --> 01:29:48,783 because she's got her feet, and doesn't need me. 2121 01:29:49,450 --> 01:29:51,519 Basically, she- 2122 01:29:51,519 --> 01:29:52,687 - I still need you. 2123 01:29:52,687 --> 01:29:55,356 - I mean, she might call me once in awhile. 2124 01:29:55,356 --> 01:29:57,892 And you know, I very rarely, 2125 01:29:57,892 --> 01:30:01,262 but every once in awhile I'll volunteer some things 2126 01:30:01,262 --> 01:30:02,630 based on what I see. 2127 01:30:04,232 --> 01:30:06,067 But for the most part I love what I see. 2128 01:30:07,502 --> 01:30:09,170 Oh, thanks, Dad. 2129 01:30:11,272 --> 01:30:13,241 - I'm really impressed. 2130 01:30:13,241 --> 01:30:14,575 - Thanks, Daddy. 2131 01:30:14,575 --> 01:30:17,645 - And we all do have a lot of respect 2132 01:30:17,645 --> 01:30:19,781 and admiration for each other. 2133 01:30:19,781 --> 01:30:21,549 - We all really enjoy each other's company, 2134 01:30:21,549 --> 01:30:22,583 and we all have fun. 2135 01:30:22,583 --> 01:30:23,718 And it's cool to be able 2136 01:30:23,718 --> 01:30:25,653 to work with people that you like. 2137 01:30:25,653 --> 01:30:27,555 - It's something that I'm so proud of 2138 01:30:27,555 --> 01:30:29,490 that that's a part of my career. 2139 01:30:29,490 --> 01:30:31,559 I don't think my life would be different. 2140 01:30:31,559 --> 01:30:33,828 It would not have been as enriched 2141 01:30:33,828 --> 01:30:38,266 if Don Mancini or Tony Gardner weren't part of it. 2142 01:30:38,266 --> 01:30:39,734 They're dear, dear friends 2143 01:30:39,734 --> 01:30:42,804 that I have deep conversations with, and love that. 2144 01:30:42,804 --> 01:30:46,607 - Chucky has like given me a career, and an identity. 2145 01:30:46,607 --> 01:30:49,377 - Chucky was the first thing that I did 2146 01:30:49,377 --> 01:30:51,312 that had a fan base. 2147 01:30:51,312 --> 01:30:53,181 And that got me- 2148 01:30:53,181 --> 01:30:53,948 - Noticed. 2149 01:30:53,948 --> 01:30:55,616 - Yeah, it got me a career. 2150 01:30:55,616 --> 01:30:57,585 - One of the best gifts to have in life, 2151 01:30:57,585 --> 01:30:59,887 particularly when you get older, you'll find out, 2152 01:30:59,887 --> 01:31:04,592 is that it's just nice for people to listen to you. 2153 01:31:04,592 --> 01:31:06,527 I've been doing this a long time. 2154 01:31:06,527 --> 01:31:07,495 I've been doing this for 30 years now. 2155 01:31:07,495 --> 01:31:10,665 So that like people still care about it, 2156 01:31:10,665 --> 01:31:12,600 and want to talk to me about it, that's awesome. 2157 01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,335 - See this is the reason why going into 2158 01:31:14,335 --> 01:31:15,536 the seventh Chucky film, 2159 01:31:15,536 --> 01:31:17,772 that Chucky has a huge fan base. 2160 01:31:17,772 --> 01:31:22,543 - The cult fan base of Chucky is very multi-faceted. 2161 01:31:22,543 --> 01:31:26,547 So you've got like the sort of the typical young guys 2162 01:31:26,547 --> 01:31:28,349 who love horror, and they love 2163 01:31:28,349 --> 01:31:30,718 to see guts and gore, and T&A. 2164 01:31:30,718 --> 01:31:34,355 - And it's not like a lot of horror films 2165 01:31:34,355 --> 01:31:35,690 where every movie is basically 2166 01:31:35,690 --> 01:31:37,625 the same movie that came before. 2167 01:31:37,625 --> 01:31:40,495 - And then you've got young women who are like tend 2168 01:31:40,495 --> 01:31:42,763 to be a little more sensitive than that. 2169 01:31:42,763 --> 01:31:46,868 And their interests in it tend to be a little bit different. 2170 01:31:46,868 --> 01:31:49,537 - Every movie that Don does there's like a new twist. 2171 01:31:49,537 --> 01:31:50,805 - People really love it. 2172 01:31:50,805 --> 01:31:52,573 People come with their little doll and all that. 2173 01:31:52,573 --> 01:31:53,574 "Could you sign that?" 2174 01:31:53,574 --> 01:31:54,442 Their Glen doll? 2175 01:31:54,442 --> 01:31:55,376 - Yeah. 2176 01:31:55,376 --> 01:31:57,278 - Glen? 2177 01:31:57,278 --> 01:31:59,380 - Guess again, Daddy? 2178 01:31:59,380 --> 01:32:00,781 - Horror's always been counterculture. 2179 01:32:00,781 --> 01:32:02,483 I think that that makes the people who are fans 2180 01:32:02,483 --> 01:32:04,452 of it band together. 2181 01:32:04,452 --> 01:32:05,653 - I don't think there's any other genre 2182 01:32:05,653 --> 01:32:07,588 that has a fan base like horror. 2183 01:32:07,588 --> 01:32:10,558 - Horror fans are, and I include myself 2184 01:32:10,558 --> 01:32:13,361 in this category, very passionate. 2185 01:32:13,361 --> 01:32:15,696 But also very obsessed, 2186 01:32:15,696 --> 01:32:17,598 just like very obsessed with the films. 2187 01:32:17,598 --> 01:32:19,467 - And the fans always know so much about it. 2188 01:32:19,467 --> 01:32:20,601 They're well-versed, you know, 2189 01:32:20,601 --> 01:32:22,603 they're complete fanatics. 2190 01:32:22,603 --> 01:32:27,742 - They are devoted, loving, kind, non-violent, 2191 01:32:27,742 --> 01:32:31,212 people who appreciate what you have created 2192 01:32:31,212 --> 01:32:32,513 and given them. 2193 01:32:32,513 --> 01:32:35,516 - It's celebrated. We get to celebrate it often. 2194 01:32:35,516 --> 01:32:37,618 You know, I do conventions with Christine Elise. 2195 01:32:37,618 --> 01:32:39,353 - I think one of the things I'm most entertained 2196 01:32:39,353 --> 01:32:40,555 about at conventions is it's 2197 01:32:40,555 --> 01:32:42,857 a gigantic collection of people. 2198 01:32:42,857 --> 01:32:45,927 Table after table, and thousands of people, 2199 01:32:45,927 --> 01:32:49,830 - Who are in society generally looked at as outsiders. 2200 01:32:49,830 --> 01:32:51,632 They tend to be wearing black, black T shirt. 2201 01:32:51,632 --> 01:32:53,668 - And they look like they should be 2202 01:32:53,668 --> 01:32:56,771 in a death metal band, and screaming 2203 01:32:56,771 --> 01:33:00,374 and Wielding an ax, and throwing shit at people. 2204 01:33:00,374 --> 01:33:01,576 - But they're, they seem to be like 2205 01:33:01,576 --> 01:33:03,611 the bizarrely, the most wholesome. 2206 01:33:03,611 --> 01:33:05,780 - Usually, they're the most honestly mild-mannered. 2207 01:33:05,780 --> 01:33:09,850 And it's like they're actually really normal people. 2208 01:33:09,850 --> 01:33:13,688 Not all horror fans shop at Hot Topic. No disrespect. 2209 01:33:13,688 --> 01:33:16,557 Not all of us do that. Only sometimes. 2210 01:33:16,557 --> 01:33:18,826 - Jennifer Tilly and I did Comicon. 2211 01:33:18,826 --> 01:33:22,330 And there were people coming up for autographs afterwards, 2212 01:33:22,330 --> 01:33:23,898 pushing babies in strollers. 2213 01:33:23,898 --> 01:33:26,601 And they had like Chucky or Tiffany tattooed on them. 2214 01:33:26,601 --> 01:33:29,537 It's like, wow these people are really into it. 2215 01:33:29,537 --> 01:33:31,439 - All the boys have tattoos. 2216 01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:33,374 All the girls are big girls, they're tough, 2217 01:33:33,374 --> 01:33:34,842 they're kick ass, those girls. 2218 01:33:34,842 --> 01:33:37,244 And they always have a great sense of humor. 2219 01:33:37,244 --> 01:33:38,579 I love the horror fans. 2220 01:33:38,579 --> 01:33:41,549 - I get so many letters, and like drawings. 2221 01:33:41,549 --> 01:33:43,751 - Comicon is great for us. 2222 01:33:43,751 --> 01:33:47,722 For the niche parts of entertainment 2223 01:33:47,722 --> 01:33:50,391 it's this great place where we get to be sort of thought of. 2224 01:33:50,391 --> 01:33:51,726 - But they were so polite, 2225 01:33:51,726 --> 01:33:54,228 and had such a genuine appreciation for it, 2226 01:33:54,228 --> 01:33:55,696 and such a love for it. 2227 01:33:55,696 --> 01:33:58,799 - Horror's so cool because it is a genre, 2228 01:33:58,799 --> 01:34:01,602 where the below the line people get appreciation. 2229 01:34:01,602 --> 01:34:03,471 - I love every single person I've met 2230 01:34:03,471 --> 01:34:04,772 at a convention, for real. 2231 01:34:04,772 --> 01:34:10,378 They are just excited, joyous, and giving. 2232 01:34:10,378 --> 01:34:11,579 - I think it's great to just come here, 2233 01:34:11,579 --> 01:34:13,481 and be surrounded by people who love horror. 2234 01:34:13,481 --> 01:34:14,782 Like at any horror convention, 2235 01:34:14,782 --> 01:34:17,184 it's just really cool to find more and more 2236 01:34:17,184 --> 01:34:18,352 of these out here. 2237 01:34:18,352 --> 01:34:19,687 And to see more and more people 2238 01:34:19,687 --> 01:34:21,689 from all different regions of the United States, 2239 01:34:21,689 --> 01:34:24,558 and all over the world coming to celebrate this genre. 2240 01:34:24,558 --> 01:34:27,294 - It's wonderful to see that kind of fan base support 2241 01:34:27,294 --> 01:34:28,396 for the movies, in person. 2242 01:34:28,396 --> 01:34:29,530 - I love being here, man. 2243 01:34:29,530 --> 01:34:31,365 I love being surrounded by this. 2244 01:34:31,365 --> 01:34:32,833 It's my favorite place to be. 2245 01:34:32,833 --> 01:34:35,503 - They're always great about meeting their fans. 2246 01:34:35,503 --> 01:34:37,304 Don Mancini always makes time 2247 01:34:37,304 --> 01:34:38,639 to sign every autograph. 2248 01:34:38,639 --> 01:34:40,508 - And so to meet them in person, 2249 01:34:40,508 --> 01:34:41,742 and just get to talk to them, 2250 01:34:41,742 --> 01:34:43,644 even if it's just for a few minutes 2251 01:34:43,644 --> 01:34:46,380 about those experiences, I really appreciate that. 2252 01:34:46,380 --> 01:34:47,648 - Story telling is about communication, 2253 01:34:47,648 --> 01:34:49,717 and it relies on both parties, 2254 01:34:49,717 --> 01:34:52,586 the story teller and the person who's hearing 2255 01:34:52,586 --> 01:34:54,288 the story and responding to it. 2256 01:34:59,260 --> 01:35:00,728 - Any movie is a dialogue in a way. 2257 01:35:00,728 --> 01:35:03,664 And I think that's increasing true 2258 01:35:03,664 --> 01:35:05,433 in the world of social media. 2259 01:35:05,433 --> 01:35:06,734 - Internet has come along, 2260 01:35:06,734 --> 01:35:10,705 and everybody can share photos and cross analyze, 2261 01:35:10,705 --> 01:35:12,773 what he looked like in this film versus that film? 2262 01:35:12,773 --> 01:35:14,508 And a lot people have really good opinions, 2263 01:35:14,508 --> 01:35:15,776 and really smart ones. 2264 01:35:15,776 --> 01:35:18,612 And I think the fan base is something 2265 01:35:18,612 --> 01:35:21,582 that's become rather amazing in a way. 2266 01:35:21,582 --> 01:35:24,518 - You get like feedback from fans 2267 01:35:24,518 --> 01:35:26,687 and people who watch movies, way more quickly, 2268 01:35:26,687 --> 01:35:29,390 and more consistently than you ever did. 2269 01:35:29,390 --> 01:35:30,591 It's just immediate. 2270 01:35:30,591 --> 01:35:33,527 - My experience with fan conventions 2271 01:35:33,527 --> 01:35:35,362 is diametrically opposed to my experience 2272 01:35:35,362 --> 01:35:37,698 with fans online. 2273 01:35:37,698 --> 01:35:40,835 Fans online tend to be, I mean, half of them are lovely, 2274 01:35:40,835 --> 01:35:44,572 and effusive and great and curious, and wonderful. 2275 01:35:44,572 --> 01:35:47,508 - And if they're unhappy you hear it right away. 2276 01:35:47,508 --> 01:35:49,543 - And another half are incredibly mean, 2277 01:35:49,543 --> 01:35:52,379 and vindictive and scary even sometimes. 2278 01:35:52,379 --> 01:35:53,714 Nobody ever is in real life. 2279 01:35:53,714 --> 01:35:56,250 - We're such a large group of people 2280 01:35:56,250 --> 01:35:58,452 to be invested in a story 2281 01:35:58,452 --> 01:36:00,521 that has been told for over 30 years. 2282 01:36:00,521 --> 01:36:02,423 To be a part of that is truly special. 2283 01:36:02,423 --> 01:36:03,657 - To be a part of something 2284 01:36:03,657 --> 01:36:07,628 that so many people love is really surreal. 2285 01:36:07,628 --> 01:36:08,729 - Every new Chucky installment they're like, 2286 01:36:08,729 --> 01:36:10,698 "Oh my god, what's gonna happen?" 2287 01:36:10,698 --> 01:36:13,467 Because they really see Chucky as a real person. 2288 01:36:13,467 --> 01:36:15,369 - Whatever Chucky represents to people 2289 01:36:15,369 --> 01:36:18,672 is real, and legitimate. 2290 01:36:18,672 --> 01:36:22,376 And there's like passion for the character. 2291 01:36:22,376 --> 01:36:23,711 It just feels like this weird gift 2292 01:36:23,711 --> 01:36:25,579 that I get to be involved in it. 2293 01:36:25,579 --> 01:36:27,715 - It's an important chapter of my life 2294 01:36:27,715 --> 01:36:31,552 that thankfully, hasn't ended in 30 years. 2295 01:36:31,552 --> 01:36:33,420 I don't have any other project like that. 2296 01:36:33,420 --> 01:36:35,422 I don't think anybody else does. 2297 01:36:35,422 --> 01:36:36,891 - It's a blessing, definitely. 2298 01:36:37,725 --> 01:36:39,426 As my grandmother used to always say 2299 01:36:39,426 --> 01:36:41,695 about Chucky, "He's such a bitch." 2300 01:36:41,695 --> 01:36:44,598 But he's a bitch hat keeps on giving. 2301 01:36:44,598 --> 01:36:45,633 Do you think of Chucky 2302 01:36:45,633 --> 01:36:47,434 as part of your own family? 2303 01:36:47,434 --> 01:36:48,702 Of course, I do think of Chucky 2304 01:36:48,702 --> 01:36:52,573 as family he's mine, he's mine. 2305 01:36:52,573 --> 01:36:54,408 Although Tony will say, "He's mine." 2306 01:36:54,408 --> 01:36:56,443 And David Kirschner will say, "He's mine." 2307 01:36:56,443 --> 01:36:58,546 'Cause success has many fathers. 2308 01:36:58,546 --> 01:37:02,349 - We joke about that, that he's our third child. 2309 01:37:02,349 --> 01:37:04,852 - I'm proud to have been his papa. 2310 01:37:04,852 --> 01:37:08,489 - I think of Chucky as my little demented brother. 2311 01:37:08,489 --> 01:37:10,624 It's true when I see him sometimes, 2312 01:37:10,624 --> 01:37:12,693 you know, I feel close to him. 2313 01:37:12,693 --> 01:37:14,528 - No, I don't feel like he's a little brother. 2314 01:37:14,528 --> 01:37:16,630 I feel like maybe he's like 2315 01:37:16,630 --> 01:37:19,099 a dog that really lived a really long time. 2316 01:37:21,735 --> 01:37:23,637 That you've had your whole life, you love him, 2317 01:37:23,637 --> 01:37:27,474 but he shits on your floor. 2318 01:37:27,474 --> 01:37:28,742 - I don't think of Chucky as a kid. 2319 01:37:28,742 --> 01:37:32,513 I think of Chucky as an employer sometimes 2320 01:37:32,513 --> 01:37:33,814 in a weird way. 2321 01:37:34,615 --> 01:37:36,617 And then he's a family member. 2322 01:37:36,617 --> 01:37:39,019 - Our little boy, is what we always say in this house. 2323 01:37:41,755 --> 01:37:43,691 is what you were trying to say, right? 2324 01:37:43,691 --> 01:37:45,759 - There you go. You ratted me out. 2325 01:37:45,759 --> 01:37:48,796 and we got it on video. 2326 01:37:51,599 --> 01:37:53,868 Tiffany's my favorite. 2327 01:37:57,004 --> 01:38:00,407 I think being part of the Chucky family, 2328 01:38:00,407 --> 01:38:02,543 there's just somebody who truly gets you, 2329 01:38:02,543 --> 01:38:04,545 because not every other daughter, 2330 01:38:04,545 --> 01:38:07,314 or father or person has grown up 2331 01:38:07,314 --> 01:38:08,549 in the same environment. 2332 01:38:08,549 --> 01:38:10,484 I feel so connected to everybody. 2333 01:38:10,484 --> 01:38:11,719 I like these relationships, 2334 01:38:11,719 --> 01:38:14,688 and I hope they grow more over the years. 2335 01:38:14,688 --> 01:38:17,892 - Now, we really will be the perfect family. 2336 01:38:22,730 --> 01:38:25,399 - I think these relationships have definitely more 2337 01:38:25,399 --> 01:38:27,668 than grown over the past few years. 2338 01:38:27,668 --> 01:38:30,471 - It's funny 'cause I don't think any of us expected 2339 01:38:30,471 --> 01:38:34,675 it to continue on, let alone gather 2340 01:38:34,675 --> 01:38:36,610 a larger family in the process 2341 01:38:36,610 --> 01:38:38,412 as it keeps moving forward. 2342 01:38:38,412 --> 01:38:40,814 And now we're headed to Canada. 2343 01:38:40,814 --> 01:38:44,652 We're going to Toronto to shoot a TV series called "Chucky." 2344 01:38:44,652 --> 01:38:47,621 - I am coming to you from the set of the "Chucky" series. 2345 01:38:47,621 --> 01:38:49,790 Which we are filming here in Toronto, Ontario. 2346 01:38:49,790 --> 01:38:52,693 Who would have thought, 25 years ago when he talked me 2347 01:38:52,693 --> 01:38:55,195 into playing this part, that I would still be 2348 01:38:55,195 --> 01:38:56,664 at it many movies later, 2349 01:38:56,664 --> 01:38:58,933 and now, a television series? 2350 01:38:58,933 --> 01:39:03,504 - Eight episodes, eight hour long episodes of killer doll. 2351 01:39:03,504 --> 01:39:05,506 The foundation is the same. 2352 01:39:05,506 --> 01:39:08,642 Don Mancini is the show runner, and wrote the pilot, 2353 01:39:08,642 --> 01:39:10,611 and is directing the pilot. 2354 01:39:10,611 --> 01:39:12,613 David Kirschner is producing. 2355 01:39:12,613 --> 01:39:14,682 All the lead puppeteers are back on it. 2356 01:39:14,682 --> 01:39:16,283 - And of course, darling old Chucky, 2357 01:39:16,283 --> 01:39:18,218 the star of our show. 2358 01:39:18,218 --> 01:39:19,586 We must not forget him, 2359 01:39:19,586 --> 01:39:21,488 because if we did he would get very, very cranky. 2360 01:39:23,657 --> 01:39:26,527 I have to be quiet now, 'cause we're filming. Bye. 2361 01:39:26,527 --> 01:39:27,661 - It's been an interesting journey really. 2362 01:39:27,661 --> 01:39:30,531 The world has gotten a lot smaller. 2363 01:39:30,531 --> 01:39:32,533 - And the family's gotten larger. 2364 01:39:32,533 --> 01:39:34,835 - It's a little dysfunctional and deadly, 2365 01:39:34,835 --> 01:39:38,472 but everybody gets along and has a lot of fun. 2366 01:39:38,472 --> 01:39:40,641 - And we're just gonna keep on killing people. 2367 01:39:40,641 --> 01:39:42,710 The family that slays together 2368 01:39:42,710 --> 01:39:44,812 stays together. - Stays together. 173797

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