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- American monster movies
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are popular almost
everywhere in the world.
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Tonight your guide for
this rare odyssey
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is the rising star of horror,
a real little terror.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
here's Chucky!
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- It's showtime.
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Where the hell's Andy?
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Did you miss me, Andy?
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Andy, snap out of it!
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You act like you've never
seen a dead body before!
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- I never saw a doll
like you before.
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- Amazing, isn't it?
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I don't have a problem
with killing.
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- Chucky did it.
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- What are you
talking about?!
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- Just stay away
from that doll!
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- it's just a doll.
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- Prove that it's
just a doll.
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- Say something, dammit!
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- How's it hanging, Phil?
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Presto, you're dead.
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- You're dead.
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- No, you are.
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- No, you're dead,
we killed you!
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- You just can't keep
a good guy down.
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I am Chucky, the
killer doll!
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And I dig it!
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So can you take
me back to the beginning
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of when all of
this started?
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- You know, I was a
horror fan all my life.
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I wrote the first script when
I was a student at UCLA.
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And I was really inspired
by the horror movies
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that I grew up
on as a kid.
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I especially loved
Brian De Palma movies,
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like "Carrie" and "Dressed
to Kill," and "The Fury."
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So I gravitated to writing
'cause it was cheaper.
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You know, so it's just
the cost of paper,
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and in those days
a typewriter.
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This was like before
computers. Can you believe
it?
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- For a while there in the
early '80s, every weekend,
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a new slasher movie
was opening up.
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It was just such
a flood of them.
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- When the first "Nightmare
on Elm Street" came out,
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and it was in 1984, it was
very unusual to have a hero,
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be a villain like
Freddy Krueger,
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who was disfigured
and evil.
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It was a new kind
of horror figure.
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It was a relatable horror
figure. It wasn't a monster.
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It wasn't somebody
grunting, and groaning,
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and coming and
breaking in.
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He was a guy, and
he had an attitude.
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He liked you, you know, he
sort of made you feel
special.
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And there was something
about those elements
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that draws the
audience in.
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- Oh, you know, that was
back in the time when
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the killers in movies
had personalities.
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You know what I mean?
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They became
like the hero,
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but there was like
a shape shifter,
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'cause it was also
the comic relief.
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- The sense of
humor is huge.
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The fact that he had
humor to his malice.
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- That's back when
Freddy Krueger was like,
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"Welcome to prime
time, bitch!"
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And so those kind of
characters found themselves
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as really the staple
of the movie.
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It wasn't about the
teen, the teenage kids,
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and it wasn't about
the heroine.
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Those movies were
about the villain.
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- It paved the way for other
anti-heroes who you hated
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and were afraid of, but you
also were attracted to them.
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And it did, it paved
the way for a Chucky.
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- Well, what happened was
my wife and I, Liz had been
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in England, in London.
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And I bought a
book called
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"The Victorian
Dollhouse Murders."
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Because the idea of dolls
coming to life scared me
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to death when I was a
little kid, Talking Tina
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from "Twilight Zone."
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And when I came back, I gave
her the book and I said,
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"I would love to do
something with dolls."
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And she said, "Well, there
actually was this screenplay
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that came out about six
months ago called "Blood
Buddy."
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But it had been passed
on by the studios.
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I said, "I'm curious
to read it."
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I had done "An
American Tail."
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For my next project. I wanted
to do something scary.
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And she gave it to me,
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and I really liked the
overall idea of it.
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A great idea,
Don's concept
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of a doll that
is programmed
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by Madison Avenue
to come to life.
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- On Madison Avenue,
they refer to children
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as consumer trainees.
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And so like training
children to want things
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that they don't need and
become compulsive buyers.
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And then in the
midst of the '80s
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and Cabbage Patch Dolls
had just come out.
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They were this
huge craze.
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And I realized that the
whole living doll trope
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in the horror genre, I
had seen Talking Tina
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on the "Twilight Zone."
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I had seen "Magic"
with Anthony Hopkins.
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But I realized that
no one had ever done
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the living doll thing as
a full fledged feature
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where you treat the
doll as a character who
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can actually emote and you
can give him pages of
dialogue.
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And "Gremlins" had
just come out.
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So it's like with
"Gremlins," I realized
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that animatronic effects
had gotten to a point
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where they were
sophisticated enough
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that the puppets could
actually emote.
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So sort of all these
ideas came together,
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and out came the
first Chucky script.
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- The veteran slashers
like Freddy, and Jason,
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and Michael Myers were
getting a little tired by
then.
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- Don came to my
office and we met,
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and I got the rights
to the script.
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- He had at the time,
a deal at Disney.
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And so he had an office
on the Disney lot.
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And I'm like 20 or 21, and
so it was a really big deal
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to have someone who
was established
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and had done such big
work, take an interest
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in what I had written and
support it and get it going.
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- The slasher genre was ready
for a burst of new blood,
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and Chucky supplied
that in spades in 1988,
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with the release
of "Child's Play."
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- And did some work on my
own on some ideas for it,
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because there wasn't,
there wasn't
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the "Frankenstein"
moment in it.
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There wasn't the moment that
brought the creature to
life.
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He just, he was a doll
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that had blood in
him, not real blood,
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but you could be
its blood buddy.
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I felt very strongly
that there should
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be something very
different about this.
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And so the story starts
off in the original
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with a murderer, Brad Dourif,
running through the streets
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and the police
are chasing him.
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And he takes refuge
in a toy store.
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- And he's shot by a
police detective.
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But before he dies, he does
this arcane voodoo ritual
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that takes his spirit and
puts it into this inanimate
doll.
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- That's really what brought
the creature to life.
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The name was
very important.
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In Don's script
it was Buddy.
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For me, the men that
truly haunted my childhood
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were James Earl Ray who
shot Martin Luther King,
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Lee Harvey Oswald,
and Charles Manson.
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So Charles Lee Ray are
all three of those names.
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And I don't know if
you know that. Yeah.
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And from there his
friends called him Chucky.
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- Hi, I'm Chucky,
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and I'm your friend till
the end, Hidey-ho!
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- We follow young
Andy Barclay who's
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a lonely kid living
with a single mom.
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And he wants a
Good Guys doll,
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'cause it's the rage
in toys that year.
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And Andy's mom buys
that doll for Andy.
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And pretty soon Andy
has a new best friend,
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but it's not the kind of
best friend that you want.
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It's more of his
worst friend.
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- Hi, I'm Chucky,
wanna play?
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- For my presentation what
I had done are sketches
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of what I thought
Chucky would look like,
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I mean in fierce form.
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You know, they all have kind
of like jumpers or overalls.
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What I did was I took
elements of childhood
implements,
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like a little kid's
baseball bat,
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things that are overall
innocuous to murder.
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That kind of became an
important signature piece for
him
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for that clothing and the
colors that go with that.
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The My Buddy doll that
Don spoke of had red hair.
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- In fairy tales, the
archetype of some,
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you know, redheads evil,
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you know, and that's partly
why Chucky has red hair.
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I mean, it's just, it's
silly and ridiculous.
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And of course, we
know redheads are
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the nicest people
in the world,
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but in fairy tales they
are harbingers of evil.
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- The more important
part was turning
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this kind of benign
doll that could be seen
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on the shelf at
ToysRUs or something,
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and what it would look like
when the monster came out.
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- I said talk
to me, dammit,
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or else I'm gonna throw
you in the fire!
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- You stupid bitch!
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You filthy slut!
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- In those shots, he
kind of changed from
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the mop-haired guy to a
bit of a receding hairline.
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A lot of Jack Nicholson
honestly was my inspiration
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from "The Shining"
for that face.
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- I can't think of a
thing to say. Fuck it.
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- Chucky's very famous.
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- Chucky's so famous.
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Chucky's the most famous
thing you've done, right?
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- Yeah, but I'm
nowhere near
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the star Chucky is.
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- I was, you know, a
huge fan of his even
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just starting as a
kid, growing up,
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"One Flew Over the
Cuckoo's Nest."
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I was a freshman at Columbia
University, 18 years old,
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and he was teaching an
acting class there,
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and I audited the
acting class.
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And then he coincidentally
ended up playing
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this character
that I created.
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I didn't cast him, Tom
Holland, who was the
director
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of the first
movie, cast Brad.
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What was it
like to switch from,
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you know, acting
to voice acting?
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- It's the same
thing, really.
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You get innately into how
to work with a microphone.
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After a while you just
kind of fall into it.
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- So much of that
character is the voice.
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And you can tell that he
seems to be having fun
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as a little doll
that came to life.
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You know, like, okay,
I'm stuck with this,
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but I'm gonna
have fun with it.
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- It's really fun and
inspiring to work with him.
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The thing about Brad is
he does not condescend
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to this at all.
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Brad like approaches this
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as like, "Where is
he coming from?"
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I mean, he doesn't
literally say,
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"What is Chucky's
motivation?"
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But we do, we talk
about it in the way
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that I do with any
character, any other actor.
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And we're thinking, what
is the subtext here?
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- There's something really
fun about being the villain.
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That weird motivation
of I want to hurt.
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I don't care
who I step on,
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this is what I want
and I'm going to,
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and I'm going to get it.
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There's something
sort of weird
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and pure about
that motivation.
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It's kind of
fun.
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Which is even
really scarier.
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That's the scary part.
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I mean, I think it's finding
the truth in yourself
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about your own
emotions and feelings,
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and the elements
that lead you there.
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You can give yourself
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a million different reasons
why you behave the way you
do.
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It's justification
for you.
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You find a justification
in your own evil.
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- Acting is intention.
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And you know, all of
us have a sort of
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a really violent heart.
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I mean we're all killers.
There's no such thing as
evil.
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All evil is
just humanity.
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It's unacceptable, but
it's still human.
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- I think we create a
scenario for ourselves
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that enables us to carry
out something horrible.
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- You know, history
is replete
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with horrible acts of
violence, and cruelty.
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And we all are capable.
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I think we like to
call things evil,
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because we like to pretend
that we're not, but we are.
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- He works at it hard,
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and so that's, I really
appreciate that.
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- So when you're playing
something like that,
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you're just using that
part of yourself.
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You don't actually kill
anybody, but you do intend
to.
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Give me the
boy and I'll let you live!
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Do you hear me? Give
me the boy!
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- I've never been
afraid of the doll,
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and I'm not
afraid of Brad.
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- When I met Alex, he
was six, I was 25.
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It's just a weird context
to meet some, you know,
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to meet a child in a
professional context
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where you're colleagues.
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- I don't remember much
else about being six,
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but I remember
being in the film.
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And I remember a
lot of things
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about making it and
behind the scenes.
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- He was you know, just
this little like actor,
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who sometimes felt like
my boss in a weird way.
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- I mean, being
a child actor
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is an interesting
situation for sure.
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'Cause you're given a lot of
the responsibility of an
adult.
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- He never directed me
when I was younger.
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He was just the writer.
285
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I idolized Don
when I was a kid.
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- In addition to
being a good actor,
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he's a really smart guy.
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- And I was a bright kid.
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I wasn't like a kid
that was just like,
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"Okay, get in front of the
camera, Johnny, and now do
this."
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I had the entire
script memorized.
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I knew everybody's
lines, all my lines,
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all everybody
else's lines.
294
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- It's just so funny
seeing a seven-year-old,
295
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like "We need to go
over this scene.
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I don't like like
this dialogue.
297
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I don't know if this
line works."
298
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- There's just
something really funny
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about a child cursing too,
that's so
upsetting.
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But when he's like.
301
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- He said, Aunt Maggie
was a real bitch,
302
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and got what
she deserved.
303
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- I showed it to my boyfriend
for the first time.
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He was like, "Why is
that kid saying that?"
305
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I'm like, "It's not
him, it's the doll!
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It's Chucky. It's
not his fault!"
307
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- I had never seen
anything like that.
308
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And anytime a
movie uses a kid,
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I am on another level
of frightened.
310
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- By day children
imagine and pretend.
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By night children have the
darkest of imaginations.
312
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- That's kind of one
of the cool things
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about having a
child actor,
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like, especially in
"Child's Play," you know?
315
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Because there is that
sort of innocence
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and that quality of they're
not putting on a front.
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They're not putting on
a certain demeanor.
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They're just being
very truthful.
319
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- You know, the beauty
and then the dark side
320
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of what the character goes
through, loss, separation.
321
00:16:11,737 --> 00:16:14,540
It's an important
part of childhood.
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And I think that's why Don's
script originally appealed
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to me because here
was this child
324
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that was saying, "My
doll's come to life
325
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and has spoken to me."
326
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- Andy stop it.
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You know perfectly well
that you're making this up.
328
00:16:26,485 --> 00:16:28,721
- And one by one people
around him start dying.
329
00:16:28,721 --> 00:16:30,789
- And sometimes,
especially in horror films,
330
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I feel like that gives one of
the most jarring reactions.
331
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- That crying scene that
I did in the first one,
332
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where Andy breaks down
and is scared for his life
333
00:16:41,567 --> 00:16:43,635
that Chucky's coming
to kill him..
334
00:16:43,635 --> 00:16:46,538
- After Chucky has
murdered several people,
335
00:16:46,538 --> 00:16:49,575
Andy is taken to a mental
institution as a suspect.
336
00:16:49,575 --> 00:16:51,377
- It's like the little
boy that cried wolf,
337
00:16:51,377 --> 00:16:52,811
except he's telling
the truth.
338
00:16:52,811 --> 00:16:56,582
And it's so insane that
no one would believe him
339
00:16:56,582 --> 00:16:58,384
and he's separated
from his mother.
340
00:16:58,384 --> 00:16:59,618
- Meanwhile,
Chucky is trying
341
00:16:59,618 --> 00:17:02,554
to take over Andy's
body and soul.
342
00:17:02,554 --> 00:17:04,823
- He's locked up, but he
like slides down the chair.
343
00:17:04,823 --> 00:17:06,558
And he's crying, 'cause
Chucky's coming after him,
344
00:17:06,558 --> 00:17:07,726
and they don't
believe him.
345
00:17:07,726 --> 00:17:10,629
- I was so dreading that
scene to begin with.
346
00:17:10,629 --> 00:17:12,398
Like I was just
really dreading it,
347
00:17:12,398 --> 00:17:13,766
because it was a
crying scene.
348
00:17:13,766 --> 00:17:16,702
- I think that as a kid too,
you hate crying on camera,
349
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because you just
wanna have fun.
350
00:17:17,870 --> 00:17:20,439
And now as an adult, I'm
like, when can I cry?
351
00:17:20,439 --> 00:17:22,574
- When it finally
came time to do it,
352
00:17:22,574 --> 00:17:25,411
I just kind of let
loose and was crying.
353
00:17:25,411 --> 00:17:28,213
Please don't leave
me, please.
354
00:17:32,551 --> 00:17:35,254
- I legit, am like,
that poor kid.
355
00:17:35,254 --> 00:17:36,655
He's about to get got.
356
00:17:36,655 --> 00:17:38,524
- There are people
who have said it's,
357
00:17:38,524 --> 00:17:40,726
you could just kick the
doll, it's not scary.
358
00:17:40,726 --> 00:17:42,628
And I never
understand that.
359
00:17:42,628 --> 00:17:45,364
- This little toy,
how scary can it be?
360
00:17:45,364 --> 00:17:46,565
You could kick him over.
361
00:17:46,565 --> 00:17:48,500
You could throw him
across the room.
362
00:17:48,500 --> 00:17:50,736
- I mean, if I walk
through my house
363
00:17:50,736 --> 00:17:53,439
and a doll came to life,
I'd probably just have
364
00:17:53,439 --> 00:17:54,706
a heart attack and die.
365
00:17:54,706 --> 00:17:56,909
I mean, that's
really scary.
366
00:17:56,909 --> 00:17:59,278
- I think that's why
audiences embrace the
character,
367
00:17:59,278 --> 00:18:01,413
'cause he is an underdog.
368
00:18:01,413 --> 00:18:02,848
You know, he
is resilient.
369
00:18:02,848 --> 00:18:07,252
He can overcome his
shortcomings and do the job.
370
00:18:11,023 --> 00:18:13,559
- I had just gotten in
the Writer's Guild,
371
00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:15,627
and there was a strike,
372
00:18:15,627 --> 00:18:18,597
so I was not able to be on
the set for "Child's Play"
one.
373
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But then when the
movie was in post
374
00:18:21,467 --> 00:18:23,702
and they were editing
David very graciously,
375
00:18:23,702 --> 00:18:24,736
'cause he didn't
have to do this,
376
00:18:24,736 --> 00:18:27,539
and a lot of producers
wouldn't do it,
377
00:18:27,539 --> 00:18:29,641
invited me into
the editing room
378
00:18:29,641 --> 00:18:30,876
just to see what
they were doing.
379
00:18:30,876 --> 00:18:33,579
And just to get my opinion
for what it was worth.
380
00:18:33,579 --> 00:18:36,782
- It's funny because
what Don was so taken by,
381
00:18:36,782 --> 00:18:38,650
and when Liz and I
were in London,
382
00:18:38,650 --> 00:18:41,553
and I bought that book on
Victorian dollhouse murders,
383
00:18:41,553 --> 00:18:43,555
there's just something
in us, people
384
00:18:43,555 --> 00:18:44,923
that are frightened
of dolls.
385
00:18:44,923 --> 00:18:47,559
And people say all the time,
"I'm frightened of dolls."
386
00:18:47,559 --> 00:18:49,294
- Because there's something
about an inanimate object
387
00:18:49,294 --> 00:18:50,896
that's like, so
388
00:18:52,498 --> 00:18:54,500
no emotion, but
like just a smile.
389
00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:57,569
- This like
frozen expression
390
00:18:57,569 --> 00:19:01,373
that leaves your
imagination room
391
00:19:01,373 --> 00:19:03,542
to do anything
and go anywhere.
392
00:19:03,542 --> 00:19:06,645
- I do think that it's
the idea of bringing
393
00:19:06,645 --> 00:19:11,450
the effigy of human form
to life, that shouldn't be.
394
00:19:11,450 --> 00:19:12,851
- But that was
really nice of him.
395
00:19:12,851 --> 00:19:17,556
And I think it was really at
that point that we bonded,
396
00:19:17,556 --> 00:19:20,659
not just as colleagues,
but as friends.
397
00:19:20,659 --> 00:19:24,596
And you know, and then
happily the movie was
successful,
398
00:19:24,596 --> 00:19:25,898
and they wanted
to do a sequel.
399
00:19:25,898 --> 00:19:28,433
- In fact, if it was a
movie it would take three
400
00:19:28,433 --> 00:19:30,802
or four sequels just
to do it justice.
401
00:19:49,821 --> 00:19:52,758
- I was so proud of the
work that everybody did,
402
00:19:52,758 --> 00:19:56,695
but I never dreamed
there would be a sequel.
403
00:19:56,695 --> 00:19:58,664
I didn't even
think like that.
404
00:19:58,664 --> 00:20:00,766
It was the movie we were
gonna do and then move on.
405
00:20:00,766 --> 00:20:02,534
- You know, and so we
did two movies back
406
00:20:02,534 --> 00:20:04,536
to back, basically.
407
00:20:04,536 --> 00:20:06,805
- I brought Don back
on the second film.
408
00:20:06,805 --> 00:20:10,375
Yes, he was rewritten by John
Lafia on the first film,
409
00:20:10,375 --> 00:20:12,578
and then Tom Holland
after that.
410
00:20:12,578 --> 00:20:16,582
But he has always had a first
position writer's credit
411
00:20:16,582 --> 00:20:18,750
on 30 years of Chucky.
412
00:20:18,750 --> 00:20:21,520
- In "Child's Play 2"
Andy Barclay is sent
413
00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,555
to live with
foster parents,
414
00:20:23,555 --> 00:20:25,757
played by Jenny Agutter
and Gerrit Graham.
415
00:20:25,757 --> 00:20:27,593
And of course they
don't believe him
416
00:20:27,593 --> 00:20:29,661
that this doll has
been haunting him
417
00:20:29,661 --> 00:20:31,697
for so much of
his young life.
418
00:20:31,697 --> 00:20:35,200
And they soon wind up
risking Chucky's wrath.
419
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:35,834
- I've had it!
420
00:20:38,237 --> 00:20:40,172
But you've
got to kill him!
421
00:20:40,172 --> 00:20:41,640
Andy!
422
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,542
- I don't have any favorite
individual memories
423
00:20:43,542 --> 00:20:45,644
from that set
because I was,
424
00:20:45,644 --> 00:20:48,513
the entire experience
was so exciting for me.
425
00:20:48,513 --> 00:20:51,683
I was so unbelievably
happy to be there.
426
00:20:51,683 --> 00:20:53,885
- This was really the
big, big production.
427
00:20:53,885 --> 00:20:56,421
So I really looked up to all
those people when I was a
kid.
428
00:20:56,421 --> 00:20:58,557
And I had a lifetime
of remembering
429
00:20:58,557 --> 00:20:59,725
that I looked up to them.
430
00:20:59,725 --> 00:21:01,560
- He was seven
and I was 24.
431
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,496
So while I was like a
big sister to him then.
432
00:21:04,496 --> 00:21:05,897
And he has since
told me that I was
433
00:21:05,897 --> 00:21:08,433
the person he remembers
being nicest to him then.
434
00:21:08,433 --> 00:21:09,768
He really felt like I
was his big sister.
435
00:21:09,768 --> 00:21:12,671
- Christine, for
example, you know,
436
00:21:12,671 --> 00:21:14,740
she really feels like
my older sister.
437
00:21:14,740 --> 00:21:16,808
- It's a relationship
that's rarely explored
438
00:21:16,808 --> 00:21:18,944
in horror movies or
movies in general
439
00:21:18,944 --> 00:21:21,480
is like the foster
sibling relationship.
440
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,881
He is a little messed
up from his experience,
441
00:21:22,881 --> 00:21:27,486
but he has this older sibling
he attaches onto real fast.
442
00:21:27,486 --> 00:21:29,621
She treats him as an
equal and she's like,
443
00:21:29,621 --> 00:21:31,857
"Yep, life's messed up,
but I'll help you out."
444
00:21:31,857 --> 00:21:33,792
And she goes to bat for
him. It's really nice.
445
00:21:33,792 --> 00:21:35,727
- I auditioned the
way everyone does.
446
00:21:35,727 --> 00:21:37,596
I went to a, you know, my
agent got me an appointment,
447
00:21:37,596 --> 00:21:38,764
and I went and I read.
448
00:21:38,764 --> 00:21:41,566
My stock and trade
at the time was
449
00:21:41,566 --> 00:21:42,868
the offbeat misunderstood,
tough chick without a gold,
450
00:21:42,868 --> 00:21:45,437
which was my stock and
trade for many, many years.
451
00:21:45,437 --> 00:21:47,472
And I didn't get it.
452
00:21:47,472 --> 00:21:49,608
But I got an episode
of "21 Jump Street"
453
00:21:49,608 --> 00:21:50,676
that I went and did.
454
00:21:50,676 --> 00:21:51,777
And then I came
back from that.
455
00:21:51,777 --> 00:21:53,378
And the day I came back
from "Jumpstreet,"
456
00:21:53,378 --> 00:21:54,780
I got an episode of
the then "Baywatch."
457
00:21:54,780 --> 00:21:57,516
And I was working and I
felt really empowered.
458
00:21:57,516 --> 00:21:59,818
They hadn't found
the Kyle yet,
459
00:21:59,818 --> 00:22:02,287
and so they decided to go
back and read the girls
460
00:22:02,287 --> 00:22:03,889
that had been
near misses.
461
00:22:03,889 --> 00:22:06,792
And I went back and I went
back with attitude though.
462
00:22:06,792 --> 00:22:08,760
I had a call time, I
didn't have time to waste.
463
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,695
I had to get in
and out of there,
464
00:22:09,695 --> 00:22:10,729
and get my ass
to the beach,
465
00:22:10,729 --> 00:22:12,964
and do a whole day
on "Baywatch."
466
00:22:12,964 --> 00:22:16,535
My attitude shifted
enormously for that second
audition.
467
00:22:16,535 --> 00:22:18,603
And I think that's
why I got it.
468
00:22:18,603 --> 00:22:20,505
That black leather hat that
I'm wearing, it's my hat.
469
00:22:20,505 --> 00:22:21,473
I've worn it in
a ton of stuff.
470
00:22:21,473 --> 00:22:23,342
I wore it in the
old "90210."
471
00:22:23,342 --> 00:22:24,743
I wore it in the
new "90210."
472
00:22:24,743 --> 00:22:27,412
I wore it in the old
Chucky and the new Chucky.
473
00:22:27,412 --> 00:22:28,780
It's a single most
important piece
474
00:22:28,780 --> 00:22:31,583
of memorabilia from my
career that I have.
475
00:22:31,583 --> 00:22:33,585
And it's weird 'cause I owned
it before I was an actor.
476
00:22:33,585 --> 00:22:36,455
- They made a big maze out
of the empty Chucky boxes.
477
00:22:36,455 --> 00:22:37,656
It was a lot of fun.
478
00:22:37,656 --> 00:22:40,258
And I remember, you
know, melting down Chucky
479
00:22:40,258 --> 00:22:41,660
with that hot wax.
480
00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:43,362
It wasn't really hot,
but it looked hot.
481
00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:44,696
- And then that
last sequence
482
00:22:44,696 --> 00:22:47,766
in the toy factory
is just incredible.
483
00:22:47,766 --> 00:22:50,535
Like that's, when you see
a movie about a killer toy,
484
00:22:50,535 --> 00:22:52,704
you want it to end
in a toy factory.
485
00:22:52,704 --> 00:22:56,274
- All those scenes were
action packed parts of the
film,
486
00:22:56,274 --> 00:22:57,709
but also time consuming.
487
00:22:57,709 --> 00:23:01,613
Because if it's more
demanding of us physically,
488
00:23:01,613 --> 00:23:03,615
it's most likely more
demanding of Chucky,
489
00:23:03,615 --> 00:23:06,718
and that means a lot of
extra puppeteer work.
490
00:23:06,718 --> 00:23:09,454
- It takes all nine
puppeteers to work him.
491
00:23:09,454 --> 00:23:12,290
We got a guy on legs,
a guy on one arm,
492
00:23:12,290 --> 00:23:13,692
a guy on another arm.
493
00:23:13,692 --> 00:23:15,961
Three facial puppeteers
working the lips,
494
00:23:15,961 --> 00:23:18,830
the brows, the eyes, a
puppeteer on the head and
body.
495
00:23:22,434 --> 00:23:24,469
- Andy! Hurry up he's
right behind you!
496
00:23:24,469 --> 00:23:27,773
You
bastard!
497
00:23:27,773 --> 00:23:30,275
- You know, this small army
of technicians were needed
498
00:23:30,275 --> 00:23:31,510
to bring Chucky to life.
499
00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:33,845
- It's really sort of
an animated movie.
500
00:23:33,845 --> 00:23:36,381
You know, it's shot in
live action and stuff,
501
00:23:36,381 --> 00:23:38,417
but he was
completely animated
502
00:23:38,417 --> 00:23:40,719
just in a sort of
a puppet sense.
503
00:23:40,719 --> 00:23:42,754
- And Kevin rounded up
some of the best of,
504
00:23:42,754 --> 00:23:44,856
you know, people
in the business.
505
00:23:44,856 --> 00:23:49,461
- The biggest challenge,
I think again, for us,
506
00:23:49,461 --> 00:23:50,829
the crew was to get,
and the puppeteers,
507
00:23:50,829 --> 00:23:53,765
was to get the doll to walk,
to give a convincing walk.
508
00:23:53,765 --> 00:23:58,570
- You've been very
naughty, Miss Kettlewell.
509
00:23:58,570 --> 00:24:00,539
- Now I consider
Kevin a friend,
510
00:24:00,539 --> 00:24:01,773
but then he was just sort
of like everybody there
511
00:24:01,773 --> 00:24:03,742
that was above me,
they were gods.
512
00:24:03,742 --> 00:24:06,645
- And the puppeteering that
went into bringing Chucky
513
00:24:06,645 --> 00:24:09,681
to life to do the
impossible, and they did it.
514
00:24:09,681 --> 00:24:12,317
- In the first film we
used a little person
515
00:24:12,317 --> 00:24:14,386
and cut between the two.
516
00:24:14,386 --> 00:24:15,587
Kevin has now
made it possible
517
00:24:15,587 --> 00:24:17,255
that we don't need a
little person at all.
518
00:24:22,027 --> 00:24:25,430
- I was just really
enamored of being there.
519
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:26,832
Especially when
we first started,
520
00:24:26,832 --> 00:24:28,800
the first half of the
schedule was on the lot at
Universal.
521
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,702
And it was on a stage
that had, at the time,
522
00:24:30,702 --> 00:24:32,671
the oldest existing
set in the world.
523
00:24:32,671 --> 00:24:34,573
It was the opera
house from
524
00:24:34,573 --> 00:24:36,308
the original "Phantom
of the Opera"
525
00:24:36,308 --> 00:24:37,709
which has since
burned down.
526
00:24:37,709 --> 00:24:39,511
But being on the
Universal lot where
527
00:24:39,511 --> 00:24:41,713
the Universal
monsters were born,
528
00:24:41,713 --> 00:24:43,548
and being a working
actress is just,
529
00:24:43,548 --> 00:24:44,683
you really feel
like an actor.
530
00:24:44,683 --> 00:24:46,585
You really feel
like you're part of
531
00:24:46,585 --> 00:24:48,553
that historic community
when you're on one
532
00:24:48,553 --> 00:24:51,723
of those old lots,
they're so magical.
533
00:24:51,723 --> 00:24:56,228
- Please, I was
only playing.
534
00:24:57,295 --> 00:24:59,664
No!
535
00:25:11,843 --> 00:25:14,679
- "Child's Play 2" and three
were kind of shot
back-to-back.
536
00:25:14,679 --> 00:25:16,715
I think they were
rushed into production.
537
00:25:16,715 --> 00:25:18,817
They came out less
than a year apart.
538
00:25:18,817 --> 00:25:22,387
- They had Justin Whalin who
I've never met to this day.
539
00:25:22,387 --> 00:25:24,389
But they had
him play Andy.
540
00:25:24,389 --> 00:25:25,690
- No offense to
Justin Whalin,
541
00:25:25,690 --> 00:25:28,260
but you know, I was so
attached to Alex who
542
00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:30,195
is the most adorable kid.
543
00:25:30,195 --> 00:25:31,730
Yeah, to have him recast.
544
00:25:31,730 --> 00:25:33,565
I understand they wanted to
age him up for story
purposes.
545
00:25:33,565 --> 00:25:35,367
- Because I was
not old enough.
546
00:25:35,367 --> 00:25:37,569
I was only 10
at the time.
547
00:25:37,569 --> 00:25:40,338
They wanted him to be 16
and have a girlfriend,
548
00:25:40,338 --> 00:25:41,740
and be in
military school.
549
00:25:41,740 --> 00:25:43,775
- And every project
that I've ever made,
550
00:25:43,775 --> 00:25:45,877
if you go through my
whole filmography,
551
00:25:45,877 --> 00:25:49,648
they all deal with children,
whether it's "Hocus Pocus,"
552
00:25:49,648 --> 00:25:52,217
whether it's "An American
Tail" and a little Jewish
mouse,
553
00:25:52,217 --> 00:25:52,884
but they're all kids.
554
00:25:53,218 --> 00:25:55,520
- When I heard that we
were making a third one,
555
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,789
I assumed that I
would be in it.
556
00:25:57,789 --> 00:26:00,759
As a 10-year-old that was a
bit of a tough pill to
swallow.
557
00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:04,262
- To Andy Barclay and Chucky,
those are the projects
558
00:26:04,262 --> 00:26:05,564
that I'm attracted to,
559
00:26:05,564 --> 00:26:07,666
the exploration of childhood
is everything to me.
560
00:26:07,666 --> 00:26:10,802
To me, it forms who
we are as people.
561
00:26:10,802 --> 00:26:13,572
- What happens to real
people in real life
562
00:26:13,572 --> 00:26:16,474
when they have
violence happen?
563
00:26:16,474 --> 00:26:17,309
When you're a child,
I mean, you would,
564
00:26:17,309 --> 00:26:18,743
it would screw you up.
565
00:26:18,743 --> 00:26:20,512
- Somehow I saw it
though, when it came out.
566
00:26:20,512 --> 00:26:22,614
And you know, I
thought, yeah, okay.
567
00:26:22,614 --> 00:26:24,783
Maybe I'll look like that
when I'm 16. I don't know.
568
00:26:24,783 --> 00:26:27,686
I think he did a fine
job. The movie was fun.
569
00:26:27,686 --> 00:26:32,457
The one liners were becoming
a little more prominent.
570
00:26:33,458 --> 00:26:36,695
Don't fuck with
the Chuck.
571
00:26:36,695 --> 00:26:38,697
- It's got, you know,
really good kills in it.
572
00:26:38,697 --> 00:26:40,832
- Just how sadistic
it is to make
573
00:26:40,832 --> 00:26:43,468
the kids kill each other,
instead of him doing the
work,
574
00:26:43,468 --> 00:26:44,603
by replacing
those paintballs
575
00:26:44,603 --> 00:26:46,404
with bullets and
live ammunition.
576
00:26:46,404 --> 00:26:47,706
That's nuts.
577
00:26:47,706 --> 00:26:50,542
- And Chucky's death scene
is spectacular in that film.
578
00:26:57,582 --> 00:27:00,185
- And then they end up
killing Chucky in the end.
579
00:27:00,185 --> 00:27:01,219
Or do they?
580
00:27:16,568 --> 00:27:18,937
- And we begin
"Bride of Chucky,"
581
00:27:18,937 --> 00:27:22,273
with his ex-girlfriend,
Tiffany, stitching him back
together
582
00:27:22,273 --> 00:27:23,608
and resurrecting him.
583
00:27:23,608 --> 00:27:26,244
Ade
Due Damballa
584
00:27:26,244 --> 00:27:27,912
- Awake!
585
00:27:27,912 --> 00:27:31,549
- When I thought of that
character with "Bride of
Chucky,"
586
00:27:31,549 --> 00:27:33,418
I knew that, you know, it
needed to be a two-hander.
587
00:27:34,719 --> 00:27:38,523
Awake. Awake, awake, awake!
588
00:27:38,523 --> 00:27:40,692
- This needed to be a
movie about a relationship
589
00:27:40,692 --> 00:27:42,460
between these
two characters.
590
00:27:42,460 --> 00:27:44,396
And so the "Bride
of Chucky" needed
591
00:27:44,396 --> 00:27:45,830
to be very different
from Chucky.
592
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:48,700
- You look like Martha
Stewart with that thing.
593
00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:51,302
- Who the fuck is
Martha Stewart?
594
00:27:51,302 --> 00:27:52,804
- My idol.
595
00:27:52,804 --> 00:27:54,606
- They tried something
entirely new with "Bride"
596
00:27:54,606 --> 00:27:56,641
and really changed it up.
597
00:27:56,641 --> 00:28:00,478
- It very much was the
perfect adjustment
598
00:28:00,478 --> 00:28:03,815
of changing the
way Chucky was.
599
00:28:03,815 --> 00:28:05,550
That those movies were
into the way they needed
600
00:28:05,550 --> 00:28:07,452
to be for that era.
601
00:28:07,452 --> 00:28:09,454
- Introduced Tiffany
who just revitalizes
602
00:28:09,454 --> 00:28:10,689
the series, I think.
603
00:28:10,689 --> 00:28:12,524
- You know, Chucky
is kind of like
604
00:28:12,524 --> 00:28:14,726
more straightforwardly
blood thirsty.
605
00:28:14,726 --> 00:28:17,562
Whereas Tiffany,
you know, she has
606
00:28:17,562 --> 00:28:20,532
some conventional
wants in her life.
607
00:28:20,532 --> 00:28:22,434
She wants love. She
wants affection.
608
00:28:22,434 --> 00:28:23,535
She wants to
be understood.
609
00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:26,337
- Oh, that's so romantic.
610
00:28:26,337 --> 00:28:28,673
- I give them six months.
611
00:28:28,673 --> 00:28:30,575
- And Tiffany is based
on my friend Ronna.
612
00:28:30,575 --> 00:28:32,410
Tiffany looks
just like Ronna.
613
00:28:32,410 --> 00:28:33,545
That's how those
two came to be.
614
00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:35,413
Which of course,
is Jennifer Tilly.
615
00:28:35,413 --> 00:28:37,082
- David Kirschner,
I adore him.
616
00:28:37,082 --> 00:28:38,349
He's the one that
came to me at
617
00:28:38,349 --> 00:28:40,452
the very beginning
when I was sort of,
618
00:28:40,452 --> 00:28:41,886
I was sort of like
digging in my heels.
619
00:28:41,886 --> 00:28:43,922
Like, I don't know if I
wanna do a Chucky movie.
620
00:28:43,922 --> 00:28:46,458
And I didn't know anything
about Chucky movies at the
time.
621
00:28:46,458 --> 00:28:48,660
But he said, "I
want to meet you."
622
00:28:48,660 --> 00:28:50,528
He did a whole
presentation.
623
00:28:50,528 --> 00:28:52,464
We went to the
Bel Air hotel.
624
00:28:52,464 --> 00:28:54,032
He had the Chucky
doll in the trunk.
625
00:28:54,032 --> 00:28:57,736
He brought it out very
reverentially like, this is
Chucky.
626
00:28:57,736 --> 00:29:00,572
Like he was introducing
me to Chucky.
627
00:29:00,572 --> 00:29:02,340
- I didn't know Jennifer
Tilly before that,
628
00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:03,708
but I had written
it for her.
629
00:29:03,708 --> 00:29:05,543
And then, you know, and
just well of course,
630
00:29:05,543 --> 00:29:06,644
that's not gonna
work out,
631
00:29:06,644 --> 00:29:08,313
'cause things like
that rarely work out.
632
00:29:08,313 --> 00:29:09,681
But then she
wanted to do it.
633
00:29:09,681 --> 00:29:11,783
- I think he felt like
once I saw the Chucky doll,
634
00:29:11,783 --> 00:29:13,685
and once I heard what
Chucky was all about,
635
00:29:13,685 --> 00:29:15,553
of course I would
fall in love with
636
00:29:15,553 --> 00:29:17,388
the whole Chucky franchise
and come on board.
637
00:29:17,388 --> 00:29:18,623
Which I actually did.
638
00:29:18,623 --> 00:29:20,425
He did a very good job
of selling me on it.
639
00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:22,727
- After having
done three sort
640
00:29:22,727 --> 00:29:26,498
of straightforward,
relatively conventional horror
movies,
641
00:29:26,498 --> 00:29:29,434
that we, you know,
reinvented it as a comedy.
642
00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:31,536
And she was a big
part of that.
643
00:29:31,536 --> 00:29:34,439
- When slasher series
reach their burnout phase,
644
00:29:34,439 --> 00:29:36,574
the creators do one
of two things.
645
00:29:36,574 --> 00:29:39,644
They either make the
subsequent chapters comedic,
646
00:29:39,644 --> 00:29:41,746
horror comedies, or
they play for laughs.
647
00:29:41,746 --> 00:29:44,783
Or they take their killers
and put them in outer space.
648
00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:46,684
So in the case of "Bride
of Chucky," I was relieved
649
00:29:46,684 --> 00:29:48,553
that they made
it more comedic.
650
00:29:48,553 --> 00:29:50,388
- I was really unprepared
for, you know,
651
00:29:50,388 --> 00:29:53,658
the humor and
the history,
652
00:29:53,658 --> 00:29:56,828
and just the really great
writing and great
characters.
653
00:29:56,828 --> 00:29:59,664
- The Chucky films were
definitely revolutionary
654
00:29:59,664 --> 00:30:01,766
in introducing
gay characters.
655
00:30:01,766 --> 00:30:04,636
- It was important to
me with these movies
656
00:30:04,636 --> 00:30:06,871
to constantly appeal
to that subset.
657
00:30:08,239 --> 00:30:11,209
That has sort of
steamrolled over the last,
658
00:30:11,209 --> 00:30:12,477
since "Bride of Chucky""
659
00:30:12,477 --> 00:30:13,678
is when we started
making it pretty gay.
660
00:30:13,678 --> 00:30:15,580
- Don is gay and
he's had a lot
661
00:30:15,580 --> 00:30:18,216
of really interesting
sympathetic gay characters
662
00:30:18,216 --> 00:30:19,551
in the franchise.
663
00:30:19,551 --> 00:30:20,819
For example, the best friend
in the "Bride of Chucky."
664
00:30:20,819 --> 00:30:23,721
- And the Alexis Arquette
character and Tiffany.
665
00:30:23,721 --> 00:30:25,657
You know, Jennifer Tilly
has always appealed
666
00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:27,425
to a gay audience,
probably dating back
667
00:30:27,425 --> 00:30:28,793
to her role in "Bound."
668
00:30:28,793 --> 00:30:31,696
- My favorite scene, sadly,
is when I was killed.
669
00:30:31,696 --> 00:30:33,531
It's when Tiffany
was in the bathtub.
670
00:30:33,531 --> 00:30:35,667
I thought it was
so cinematic.
671
00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:39,437
When I'm watching the
"Bride of Frankenstein"
672
00:30:39,437 --> 00:30:40,905
and I'm starting to cry,
673
00:30:40,905 --> 00:30:43,675
'cause I can relate to the
"Bride of Frankenstein."
674
00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:45,610
And then Chucky starts
walking down the hall
675
00:30:45,610 --> 00:30:47,745
in his little
Chucky legs.
676
00:30:47,745 --> 00:30:50,882
And then he throws the
TV into the bathtub.
677
00:30:50,882 --> 00:30:53,685
And I'm screaming, and "Bride
of Frankenstein" is
screaming.
678
00:30:53,685 --> 00:30:56,254
And "Bride of Frankenstein"
pops up, and I go under.
679
00:31:03,561 --> 00:31:05,697
it's just so
beautifully shot.
680
00:31:05,697 --> 00:31:07,599
- Just the idea that the
surging electricity would
cause
681
00:31:07,599 --> 00:31:09,667
all these bubbles
to waft.
682
00:31:09,667 --> 00:31:11,569
I always just thought
that's such a cool image.
683
00:31:11,569 --> 00:31:12,637
- That's what's
so brilliant
684
00:31:12,637 --> 00:31:14,672
about Don's creation
of that scene.
685
00:31:14,672 --> 00:31:17,408
You have bubbles set
against murder.
686
00:31:17,408 --> 00:31:19,677
- It just was
special to me,
687
00:31:19,677 --> 00:31:24,582
because I felt like I took a
step in confidence as a
writer.
688
00:31:24,582 --> 00:31:26,718
I didn't direct that
one. I just wrote it.
689
00:31:26,718 --> 00:31:30,755
And the director and
cinematographer on that
movie
690
00:31:30,755 --> 00:31:33,258
were these amazing
Chinese filmmakers,
691
00:31:33,258 --> 00:31:34,692
Ronny Yu and Peter Pau.
692
00:31:34,692 --> 00:31:36,494
And it's like, you would
walk on the set every day,
693
00:31:36,494 --> 00:31:38,663
it was just so beautiful.
694
00:31:38,663 --> 00:31:40,565
- I think everybody loves
the makeover that she did,
695
00:31:40,565 --> 00:31:41,766
where she was
just like your
696
00:31:41,766 --> 00:31:44,002
a run of the mill
middle class doll.
697
00:31:44,002 --> 00:31:47,538
And all of a sudden she's
putting on black nail
polish,
698
00:31:47,538 --> 00:31:50,642
and combat boots and making
herself like a real badass.
699
00:31:50,642 --> 00:31:53,878
- She's kind of gorg, and
like kind of looks amaze.
700
00:31:53,878 --> 00:31:56,581
If she was like a really cool
scene girl in real life,
701
00:31:56,581 --> 00:31:57,548
you know what I mean?
702
00:32:00,585 --> 00:32:03,788
- Barbie, eat
your heart out.
703
00:32:03,788 --> 00:32:07,558
- It's probably it's
anywhere minimal seven
people
704
00:32:07,558 --> 00:32:10,762
but it can take up to eight
or nine people per puppet.
705
00:32:10,762 --> 00:32:14,465
- Very complicated
coordination.
706
00:32:14,465 --> 00:32:17,335
If you're dealing with
just puppet alone,
707
00:32:17,335 --> 00:32:18,670
puppet and puppet,
it's easier.
708
00:32:18,670 --> 00:32:21,239
- We did hours, and
hours, and hours,
709
00:32:21,239 --> 00:32:23,675
and hours of ADR on that.
710
00:32:23,675 --> 00:32:25,410
- If you had the
interaction with between,
711
00:32:25,410 --> 00:32:26,911
you know, human actor
712
00:32:26,911 --> 00:32:30,682
it has to be really figured
out early on in advance
713
00:32:30,682 --> 00:32:33,318
and then has to have
a lot of rehearsal.
714
00:32:33,318 --> 00:32:34,752
- They set up
these two booths,
715
00:32:34,752 --> 00:32:36,654
so when we were doing the
lines we could look at each
other.
716
00:32:36,654 --> 00:32:38,523
It was really amazing
working off of such
717
00:32:38,523 --> 00:32:39,691
a great actor as him.
718
00:32:39,691 --> 00:32:41,726
You know, sometimes
I would improvise,
719
00:32:41,726 --> 00:32:43,695
and then he gives
something right back.
720
00:32:43,695 --> 00:32:46,397
- She's just really funny.
- She brilliant at improv.
721
00:32:46,397 --> 00:32:48,566
Way, I mean, I'm
not even close to.
722
00:32:48,566 --> 00:32:49,567
She's in a
different class.
723
00:32:49,567 --> 00:32:51,636
- And what does
Martha tell you do
724
00:32:51,636 --> 00:32:53,404
when guests drop
by for dinner
725
00:32:53,404 --> 00:32:55,206
and you haven't
had time to shop?
726
00:32:56,441 --> 00:32:58,643
You improvise.
727
00:32:58,643 --> 00:33:00,511
- Upon discovering where
Charles Lee Ray's body
728
00:33:00,511 --> 00:33:02,547
was buried,
there's an amulet
729
00:33:02,547 --> 00:33:05,483
that can restore them
back to human form.
730
00:33:05,483 --> 00:33:06,884
- All right, let's go.
731
00:33:06,884 --> 00:33:10,521
- Oh, sure. I'll steer and
you can work the pedals.
732
00:33:10,521 --> 00:33:12,724
We're dolls, you dope!
733
00:33:12,724 --> 00:33:15,660
- They arrange for Tiffany's
neighbor to drive them
there.
734
00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:18,796
And they don't know that
all the dolls are alive.
735
00:33:18,796 --> 00:33:20,498
- Of course, they don't
realize that these dolls
736
00:33:20,498 --> 00:33:22,500
are committing murders
along the way.
737
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,502
Murders which the
kids themselves
738
00:33:24,502 --> 00:33:26,871
are then implicated for.
739
00:33:26,871 --> 00:33:29,574
- So in the process, they
end up getting married.
740
00:33:29,574 --> 00:33:31,442
- Chucky having a
bride, Tifanny,
741
00:33:31,442 --> 00:33:32,844
it sort of humanizes
him a little bit.
742
00:33:32,844 --> 00:33:34,746
Because now you can
relate to the character.
743
00:33:34,746 --> 00:33:37,482
He's not just like a
homicidal little maniac.
744
00:33:37,482 --> 00:33:39,584
He has a lot of problems
that most men have.
745
00:33:39,584 --> 00:33:41,786
You know, like a
nagging girlfriend
746
00:33:41,786 --> 00:33:43,488
that complains she's
not getting enough sex.
747
00:33:43,488 --> 00:33:45,456
- The love stuff
748
00:33:45,456 --> 00:33:49,327
between Chucky and
Tiffany, both as dolls,
749
00:33:49,327 --> 00:33:51,929
was just so
cute.
750
00:33:53,231 --> 00:33:54,699
And fun.
751
00:33:54,699 --> 00:33:56,667
- But then you had sex
in it, which was good.
752
00:33:56,667 --> 00:33:58,336
That the "Bride of
Chucky" had actually
753
00:33:58,336 --> 00:34:00,338
added sex to horror.
754
00:34:00,338 --> 00:34:03,441
You never, like Godzilla
didn't have sex.
755
00:34:03,441 --> 00:34:06,444
Frankenstein
didn't jerk off.
756
00:34:06,444 --> 00:34:07,779
We didn't have
that, really.
757
00:34:07,779 --> 00:34:11,249
We didn't have the
monsters having a sex life,
758
00:34:11,249 --> 00:34:12,850
where Chucky did.
759
00:34:12,850 --> 00:34:16,487
- And some of the best
stuff were totally improv.
760
00:34:16,487 --> 00:34:18,389
"You generally wear
prophylactics?"
761
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:21,092
"Tiff, I am a
fucking rubber."
762
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:23,161
Have
I got a rubber?
763
00:34:23,161 --> 00:34:24,262
Yeah.
764
00:34:24,262 --> 00:34:25,463
Tiff.
765
00:34:25,463 --> 00:34:26,364
- What?
- Look at me!
766
00:34:26,364 --> 00:34:27,765
I'm all rubber!
767
00:34:27,765 --> 00:34:29,534
- Brad, he was looking
at me all the time,
768
00:34:29,534 --> 00:34:30,735
'cause he was
doing the lines.
769
00:34:30,735 --> 00:34:33,604
And at the end of the movie
when my character died,
770
00:34:33,604 --> 00:34:36,541
I looked over there and tears
were streaming down his
face.
771
00:34:36,541 --> 00:34:38,309
He was so sad.
772
00:34:38,309 --> 00:34:39,744
And then I started
crying too.
773
00:34:39,744 --> 00:34:41,679
And then afterwards
he said to Don,
774
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,449
"How come I haven't
had a wife sooner?"
775
00:34:44,449 --> 00:34:47,218
- And they end up
having a baby.
776
00:35:02,667 --> 00:35:04,602
So what
led you to take
777
00:35:04,602 --> 00:35:06,537
on Tony Gardner as head
of the effects department
778
00:35:06,537 --> 00:35:08,439
in "Seed" going forward?
779
00:35:08,439 --> 00:35:09,841
Why was there
that switch?
780
00:35:09,841 --> 00:35:12,743
- Well, what happened was
that Kevin Yagher had worked
781
00:35:12,743 --> 00:35:14,245
with us on the
first four films.
782
00:35:14,245 --> 00:35:15,746
Done a great job.
783
00:35:15,746 --> 00:35:18,382
His wife is Catherine
Hicks who played
784
00:35:18,382 --> 00:35:19,417
the mom in the
first film.
785
00:35:19,417 --> 00:35:20,485
All was great.
786
00:35:20,485 --> 00:35:22,453
And then when
we were going
787
00:35:22,453 --> 00:35:24,422
to make our fifth
film, Universal could
788
00:35:24,422 --> 00:35:25,590
not make the
deal with him.
789
00:35:25,590 --> 00:35:27,525
They were just
too far apart.
790
00:35:27,525 --> 00:35:29,627
We were cutting our
budget very far back.
791
00:35:29,627 --> 00:35:33,598
- As your slasher series
go on each subsequent film
792
00:35:33,598 --> 00:35:35,500
makes less than the
one before it.
793
00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:37,869
So there's
diminishing returns.
794
00:35:37,869 --> 00:35:42,473
So yeah, the money men
tend to slash the budget.
795
00:35:42,473 --> 00:35:45,443
- And they
wouldn't budge.
796
00:35:45,443 --> 00:35:46,744
And they were
unfair to someone
797
00:35:46,744 --> 00:35:48,913
that had been really loyal
and had done a great job.
798
00:35:48,913 --> 00:35:51,782
- I loved what Tony Gardner
brought to the series as
well.
799
00:35:51,782 --> 00:35:53,784
- Then there was the
opportunity to meet him.
800
00:35:53,784 --> 00:35:56,587
And because we had done
"Hocus Pocus" together,
801
00:35:56,587 --> 00:35:59,790
to call him and say, "Are you
interested in doing this?
802
00:35:59,790 --> 00:36:01,792
It's Chucky, you'd be
taking over for Kevin."
803
00:36:01,792 --> 00:36:04,662
And I think he was a
little hesitant of that.
804
00:36:04,662 --> 00:36:07,265
He's a loyal person
and loyal to his craft.
805
00:36:07,265 --> 00:36:08,199
But I said, you know,
806
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:09,834
"If it's not you it's
gonna be somebody.
807
00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:12,570
And you did such a
great job on 'Hocus.'
808
00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:13,704
Would you consider this?"
809
00:36:13,704 --> 00:36:15,640
Have you ever done
anything like this?"
810
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,774
And he said, "Well, not
bring a doll to life,
811
00:36:16,774 --> 00:36:18,409
but I've done plenty
of other things,
812
00:36:18,409 --> 00:36:19,710
bringing things to life."
813
00:36:19,710 --> 00:36:22,413
So Don and I went out
and met with him.
814
00:36:22,413 --> 00:36:23,814
- I like working
with smart people,
815
00:36:23,814 --> 00:36:27,351
because they're allies when
you're making it together,
816
00:36:27,351 --> 00:36:28,819
as he definitely was.
817
00:36:28,819 --> 00:36:31,789
- And it's been this
partnership ever since.
818
00:36:31,789 --> 00:36:34,625
- Chucky and the
puppeteers, you all have
819
00:36:34,625 --> 00:36:37,828
to like descend together
into this fantasy.
820
00:36:37,828 --> 00:36:41,632
We all have to go into
this realm of this place
821
00:36:41,632 --> 00:36:43,501
that we've created and
make it believable.
822
00:36:43,501 --> 00:36:44,502
- It's queued up.
823
00:36:46,771 --> 00:36:50,942
- What? Oh, sorry.
You were saying.
824
00:36:51,542 --> 00:36:53,277
That's a cut.
825
00:36:53,277 --> 00:36:54,478
Tony, you guys happy?
826
00:36:54,478 --> 00:36:55,446
Yeah, let's
go with that.
827
00:36:55,446 --> 00:36:57,815
- I find a thrill
in making something
828
00:36:57,815 --> 00:37:02,119
that isn't real be perceived
as real to somebody else.
829
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,789
It was sort of an
odd start for us,
830
00:37:04,789 --> 00:37:07,792
because we were supposed to
copy Kevin Yagher's puppets.
831
00:37:07,792 --> 00:37:11,796
But we had no resources from
Universal or from Kevin.
832
00:37:11,796 --> 00:37:15,666
All we had to go from
VHS copies of the movie.
833
00:37:15,666 --> 00:37:18,669
We would freeze the
VHS copy of the movie
834
00:37:18,669 --> 00:37:21,706
and take stills
off of the TV.
835
00:37:21,706 --> 00:37:23,674
And that was our
point of reference.
836
00:37:23,674 --> 00:37:26,577
We had like three months
to build everything.
837
00:37:26,577 --> 00:37:29,647
And then we were off to
Romania and right into it.
838
00:37:29,647 --> 00:37:32,650
We had a whole team
of puppeteers come in
839
00:37:32,650 --> 00:37:34,685
from England
to support us.
840
00:37:34,685 --> 00:37:37,488
There were five of us
from the United States,
841
00:37:37,488 --> 00:37:40,524
and then another 15
people from the UK.
842
00:37:40,524 --> 00:37:42,560
So we had amazing
resources,
843
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,630
and just had a
great time.
844
00:37:45,630 --> 00:37:47,465
Another thing that was
really fun was getting
845
00:37:47,465 --> 00:37:50,434
to sort of design Glen
from the ground up.
846
00:37:50,434 --> 00:37:51,836
We knew he had to
have sharp teeth,
847
00:37:51,836 --> 00:37:54,472
because that had been
established in "Bride."
848
00:37:54,472 --> 00:37:56,574
But other than
that we were free
849
00:37:56,574 --> 00:37:59,343
to play with Glen, which
was really awesome.
850
00:37:59,343 --> 00:38:00,811
- And I love how
Glen looks.
851
00:38:00,811 --> 00:38:03,848
He looks like a Walter
Keane painting,
852
00:38:03,848 --> 00:38:07,718
or Margaret Keane who
actually did them, gone to
horror.
853
00:38:07,718 --> 00:38:09,754
- It was just kind
of fun, you know.
854
00:38:10,655 --> 00:38:13,624
Just trying to invent
who this character is.
855
00:38:13,624 --> 00:38:15,559
Don had this idea
that it should be
856
00:38:15,559 --> 00:38:18,429
a sort of Dickensian
character.
857
00:38:18,429 --> 00:38:20,665
It should be like
Oliver Twist.
858
00:38:20,665 --> 00:38:22,500
- Don felt strongly
that it would be great
859
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:26,337
to explore further
the family dynamics
860
00:38:26,337 --> 00:38:28,639
of including this child.
861
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:31,742
- Look, I still have the
necklace you left me.
862
00:38:31,742 --> 00:38:34,512
- It just seemed natural
that we would evolve
863
00:38:34,512 --> 00:38:36,547
into a domestic drama.
864
00:38:36,547 --> 00:38:37,782
- "Seed of Chucky"
I think was one
865
00:38:37,782 --> 00:38:39,784
of the most bizarre
experiences of my life.
866
00:38:39,784 --> 00:38:42,553
It's just really bizarre
to be looking at
867
00:38:42,553 --> 00:38:45,523
a little tiny doll with her
little eyes blinking, going,
868
00:38:45,523 --> 00:38:48,292
"Miss Tilly, you can
do it the easy way.
869
00:38:48,292 --> 00:38:50,494
- Or the hard way.
870
00:38:50,795 --> 00:38:52,530
- I was playing myself,
Jennifer Tilly,
871
00:38:52,530 --> 00:38:55,499
international film star.
872
00:38:55,499 --> 00:38:58,502
I was playing Tiffany,
a talking doll
873
00:38:58,502 --> 00:38:59,904
that was my biggest fan.
874
00:38:59,904 --> 00:39:04,475
And then I played Tiffany
in Jennifer Tilly's body.
875
00:39:04,475 --> 00:39:07,511
- Jennifer completely
mocks herself in this movie
876
00:39:07,511 --> 00:39:09,013
in a way that I think
people will love her for.
877
00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:12,483
- How come I don't ever get
any of the good roles
anymore?
878
00:39:12,483 --> 00:39:15,219
How come nobody
takes me seriously?
879
00:39:15,219 --> 00:39:16,320
- Nice tits.
880
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,355
- Thank you.
881
00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:18,789
- Yeah, I had a partner,
882
00:39:18,789 --> 00:39:22,526
you know, we were
arguing and smooching,
883
00:39:22,526 --> 00:39:24,595
and you know, doing
whatever we were doing.
884
00:39:25,529 --> 00:39:28,466
You know, murdering
together.
885
00:39:28,466 --> 00:39:29,533
- Having a kid together.
886
00:39:29,533 --> 00:39:31,535
- Having a kid together.
887
00:39:31,535 --> 00:39:33,571
- I knew Brad because
of "Lord of the Rings."
888
00:39:33,571 --> 00:39:35,706
Brad of course,
is Wormtongue.
889
00:39:35,706 --> 00:39:37,675
Did you
guys ever get to be
890
00:39:37,675 --> 00:39:39,543
in the booth together when
you did voiceover for
"Seed"?
891
00:39:39,543 --> 00:39:41,679
- Nah, it was just me.
892
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:44,415
Don had all these
pictures of what everybody
893
00:39:44,415 --> 00:39:45,683
was going to look like.
894
00:39:45,683 --> 00:39:48,552
And then he had
readings of most of
895
00:39:48,552 --> 00:39:50,554
the other characters
for the scene,
896
00:39:50,554 --> 00:39:52,523
so I knew how
they played it.
897
00:39:52,523 --> 00:39:53,557
But we didn't
play it together.
898
00:39:53,557 --> 00:39:55,793
- So I had different
voices for Tiffany.
899
00:39:55,793 --> 00:39:58,462
When Tiffany was a
person I had sort of like
900
00:39:58,462 --> 00:40:00,498
a Marilyn Monroe-esque,
like kind of,
901
00:40:00,498 --> 00:40:02,633
like white trashy voice.
902
00:40:02,633 --> 00:40:04,635
And then when she
went into the doll,
903
00:40:04,635 --> 00:40:06,437
I made it more of
a tinny voice.
904
00:40:06,437 --> 00:40:07,505
'Cause I figured the
doll doesn't have
905
00:40:07,505 --> 00:40:08,639
like really strong
vocal chords.
906
00:40:08,639 --> 00:40:09,507
So I made it more of
a doll-like voice.
907
00:40:09,507 --> 00:40:11,509
- Yes, he is.
908
00:40:11,509 --> 00:40:13,310
- Joan, will you please
stop doing that?
909
00:40:13,310 --> 00:40:14,512
- Doing what?
910
00:40:14,512 --> 00:40:16,480
- Imitating me. I do
not sound like that!
911
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,748
- Oh yes you do.
912
00:40:17,748 --> 00:40:19,817
- And then when she went
into Jennifer Tilly,
913
00:40:19,817 --> 00:40:21,719
I sort of had to do a
little bit of the doll,
914
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,654
a little bit of
the human Tiffany
915
00:40:23,654 --> 00:40:25,689
in Jennifer
Tilly's voice.
916
00:40:25,689 --> 00:40:28,526
- All right, Fulvia, if
that's what you want.
917
00:40:28,526 --> 00:40:30,361
- And then we wanted
the difference
918
00:40:30,361 --> 00:40:32,430
between Glen and Glenda.
919
00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:34,498
Glen's a sort of
more proper English.
920
00:40:34,498 --> 00:40:35,733
- I saw you on the telly.
921
00:40:35,733 --> 00:40:39,670
- And then Glenda's a bit
more, kind of cockney.
922
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:42,706
- That's my name. Don't
you wear it out.
923
00:40:42,706 --> 00:40:46,410
- I especially love
Billy Boyd's rendition
924
00:40:46,410 --> 00:40:48,479
of those characters.
925
00:40:48,479 --> 00:40:51,649
- Stop it, Mommy. You'll
wrinkle me dress.
926
00:40:51,649 --> 00:40:54,718
- Stop it, Mommy. You'll
wrinkle my dress.
927
00:40:54,718 --> 00:40:57,321
- I love him, and I
love Glen and Glenda.
928
00:40:57,321 --> 00:40:58,556
But a feel an
affection for them,
929
00:40:58,556 --> 00:40:59,723
because they're
my children.
930
00:40:59,723 --> 00:41:01,859
You never stop loving
your children.
931
00:41:01,859 --> 00:41:04,862
- Glen's cute, he would
be in a punk rock bar.
932
00:41:04,862 --> 00:41:09,400
You know, he looks like a
kind of boy I'd date.
933
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,335
- I really love Glen.
934
00:41:11,335 --> 00:41:12,736
I think he's
really funny.
935
00:41:12,736 --> 00:41:16,507
But I also find him
poignant in a way.
936
00:41:16,507 --> 00:41:18,442
And when we were
making the movie,
937
00:41:18,442 --> 00:41:19,376
there were times
where we like,
938
00:41:19,376 --> 00:41:21,712
oh, this is kind of sad.
939
00:41:21,712 --> 00:41:23,848
You remember when
Glen kills Chucky,
940
00:41:23,848 --> 00:41:26,283
and he chops him up and
he's just devastated.
941
00:41:26,283 --> 00:41:27,651
And he's crying.
942
00:41:27,651 --> 00:41:29,820
And Jennifer Tilly is
like comforting him.
943
00:41:29,820 --> 00:41:32,189
We're all kind of like
getting a little like
944
00:41:32,189 --> 00:41:34,525
oh, this is sad.
945
00:41:34,525 --> 00:41:37,528
But people didn't respond
correctly at first.
946
00:41:37,528 --> 00:41:39,630
- Glen/Glenda was the
first trans kid,
947
00:41:39,630 --> 00:41:42,633
doll trans kid, that was ever
portrayed in the movies.
948
00:41:42,633 --> 00:41:44,668
- It's maybe one of
the greatest things
949
00:41:44,668 --> 00:41:48,439
about "Seed" I think, is
this kind of transgender,
950
00:41:48,439 --> 00:41:49,640
you know, confused.
951
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,675
- Sometimes I
feel like a boy.
952
00:41:51,675 --> 00:41:53,544
Sometimes I feel
like a girl.
953
00:41:53,544 --> 00:41:56,347
- And his parents
don't help.
954
00:41:56,347 --> 00:41:59,783
It's a big, parent's
please help.
955
00:41:59,783 --> 00:42:02,720
- In my mission to make the
franchise gayer and gayer,
956
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:06,357
we address this in a
movie that maybe like
957
00:42:06,357 --> 00:42:08,559
the audience
wasn't ready for.
958
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:10,494
- I don't think "Seed
of Chucky" was rejected
959
00:42:10,494 --> 00:42:12,329
because of those themes.
960
00:42:12,329 --> 00:42:13,664
I think the film
was embraced
961
00:42:13,664 --> 00:42:16,467
by that niche part
of the audience.
962
00:42:16,467 --> 00:42:19,670
- Now, people are more
interested in that.
963
00:42:19,670 --> 00:42:22,473
- Don, in a strange way
through the Chucky movies
964
00:42:22,473 --> 00:42:24,508
he sort of educates.
965
00:42:24,508 --> 00:42:27,645
And makes people feel
compassion for people
966
00:42:27,645 --> 00:42:29,446
that are not
like themselves.
967
00:42:29,446 --> 00:42:30,781
- Partly you're like,
write what you know.
968
00:42:30,781 --> 00:42:32,483
But I also, there's
just a part of me
969
00:42:32,483 --> 00:42:34,518
that it amused me.
970
00:42:34,518 --> 00:42:37,388
The idea of like kind of
turning what had become
971
00:42:37,388 --> 00:42:39,723
a cultural icon
on its head,
972
00:42:39,723 --> 00:42:42,560
and making the franchise be
almost like an ambassador
973
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,496
for like gay horror fans.
974
00:42:45,496 --> 00:42:47,831
- Gay people have always
embraced horror films,
975
00:42:47,831 --> 00:42:50,834
because they've always been
able to relate to the
monster.
976
00:42:50,834 --> 00:42:54,638
The Frankenstein monster
who's being persecuted
977
00:42:54,638 --> 00:42:56,640
and aren't getting
a fair shake.
978
00:42:58,108 --> 00:43:01,712
That's probably why they
gravitate towards horror
films,
979
00:43:01,712 --> 00:43:04,748
'cause they see themselves
in some of these characters.
980
00:43:04,748 --> 00:43:06,450
- I think gay people
always liked horror movies,
981
00:43:06,450 --> 00:43:08,786
'cause they're drama
queens.
982
00:43:08,786 --> 00:43:11,522
- I think perhaps it was
rejected more for the fact
983
00:43:11,522 --> 00:43:13,524
that so much of it was
played for laughs,
984
00:43:13,524 --> 00:43:14,758
and it was jokey
and silly.
985
00:43:14,758 --> 00:43:16,694
- These films have
really evolved
986
00:43:16,694 --> 00:43:19,496
from being a really
frightening first film,
987
00:43:19,496 --> 00:43:21,265
to moving much
more into the area
988
00:43:21,265 --> 00:43:22,766
of being horror comedies.
989
00:43:22,766 --> 00:43:25,302
- The film was a little
too far over the top
990
00:43:25,302 --> 00:43:27,705
in terms of the humor and
991
00:43:27,705 --> 00:43:29,873
the outrageousness
of the storyline.
992
00:43:29,873 --> 00:43:32,543
- This one sort of took
it all one step further.
993
00:43:32,543 --> 00:43:34,878
I don't know, it's sort of
spoofing on top of spoofing.
994
00:43:34,878 --> 00:43:38,215
- You can catch their movie
in theaters next Halloween.
995
00:43:38,215 --> 00:43:38,882
Thank you, Chucky.
996
00:43:40,217 --> 00:43:42,586
- Fuck you very much.
997
00:43:42,586 --> 00:43:44,755
- I think that was a little
too much for horror fans
998
00:43:44,755 --> 00:43:47,725
who just go to see a
movie for blood and guts.
999
00:43:47,725 --> 00:43:50,794
Horror fans really want
their scares and their gore.
1000
00:43:50,794 --> 00:43:53,597
And even though the film
definitely had its gore
moments,
1001
00:43:53,597 --> 00:43:55,799
some really grotesque
death scenes.
1002
00:43:55,799 --> 00:43:58,335
What is one of
your favorite death scenes?
1003
00:43:58,335 --> 00:44:01,705
- Glen accidentally
kills, uh...
1004
00:44:01,705 --> 00:44:03,173
Are talking
about with the acid?
1005
00:44:03,173 --> 00:44:04,208
- Yeah.
1006
00:44:04,208 --> 00:44:04,842
John Waters.
1007
00:44:05,376 --> 00:44:09,380
- John Waters. I liked that,
'cause it was accidental.
1008
00:44:09,380 --> 00:44:10,514
He didn't mean it.
1009
00:44:10,514 --> 00:44:12,483
- You know, he loved
the Chucky movies,
1010
00:44:12,483 --> 00:44:14,752
and he always wanted to
be a victim of Chucky.
1011
00:44:14,752 --> 00:44:16,353
You should ask
him about that.
1012
00:44:16,353 --> 00:44:17,721
- Well, I wanted to, yes.
1013
00:44:17,721 --> 00:44:20,457
So I was thrilled
to be injured
1014
00:44:20,457 --> 00:44:22,159
and thrown acid in my
face, even better.
1015
00:44:28,632 --> 00:44:30,801
- But the first
day I remembered,
1016
00:44:30,801 --> 00:44:33,504
the first take was
Chucky was coming at me.
1017
00:44:33,504 --> 00:44:35,506
He moves, it's
actually not like
1018
00:44:35,506 --> 00:44:37,541
they put that in later
and his mouth opens
1019
00:44:37,541 --> 00:44:38,409
and you hear
what he says.
1020
00:44:38,409 --> 00:44:39,510
So he's coming at me,
1021
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:41,412
and then they say cut.
1022
00:44:41,412 --> 00:44:42,680
And you know,
he falls down.
1023
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,248
Then all of a sudden
he looks up at me
1024
00:44:44,248 --> 00:44:45,315
and goes, "Fuck you."
1025
00:44:45,315 --> 00:44:47,284
It was the puppeteers
working him,
1026
00:44:47,284 --> 00:44:48,852
which really
made me laugh.
1027
00:44:48,852 --> 00:44:52,523
- In "Seed of Chucky" Guy
Louthan played Don Mancini.
1028
00:44:52,523 --> 00:44:54,692
So if you look at the
credits in "Seed of Chucky,"
1029
00:44:54,692 --> 00:44:57,361
it says, Don Mancini
played by Guy Louthan,
1030
00:44:57,361 --> 00:44:58,796
who was the producer.
1031
00:44:58,796 --> 00:45:01,632
And I really felt like Don
should play Guy Louthan.
1032
00:45:01,632 --> 00:45:03,434
Play the actual
producer in the movie,
1033
00:45:03,434 --> 00:45:04,568
or play somebody else.
1034
00:45:04,568 --> 00:45:06,670
But he didn't
want to do it.
1035
00:45:06,670 --> 00:45:09,640
- Just Tony
playing himself.
1036
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,242
And then the puppets getting
revenge on the puppeteer.
1037
00:45:17,848 --> 00:45:21,618
- Yeah, I think the
audience might have felt
1038
00:45:21,618 --> 00:45:23,654
that Don was being a
little too clever,
1039
00:45:23,654 --> 00:45:26,724
and a little too in-jokey
for their own taste.
1040
00:45:26,724 --> 00:45:29,693
- It would have been
absolutely de rigueur
1041
00:45:29,693 --> 00:45:32,396
for the people in
charge to say like,
1042
00:45:32,396 --> 00:45:34,298
"Okay, it's time to
get some new blood
1043
00:45:34,298 --> 00:45:35,499
in here now,
1044
00:45:35,499 --> 00:45:37,000
'cause that didn't
work out so well."
1045
00:45:38,502 --> 00:45:40,571
But David didn't he
stayed loyal to me.
1046
00:45:40,571 --> 00:45:42,606
- He works so hard,
he cares so much.
1047
00:45:42,606 --> 00:45:44,341
I've never worked
with a director
1048
00:45:44,341 --> 00:45:46,543
that does not
lose his cool.
1049
00:45:46,543 --> 00:45:48,779
- You're under a clock, and
how are we gonna do this?
1050
00:45:48,779 --> 00:45:51,882
And it's kind of
constantly traumatic.
1051
00:45:53,383 --> 00:45:55,819
But that's a bonding
experience.
1052
00:45:55,819 --> 00:46:00,991
- So there is very much a
wonderful, familial flavor to
it.
1053
00:46:01,258 --> 00:46:02,559
- You get really close.
1054
00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:04,495
I mean, you're
literally close.
1055
00:46:04,495 --> 00:46:06,530
You're sandwiched
under a desk,
1056
00:46:06,530 --> 00:46:09,700
or working side-by-side,
or on top of somebody.
1057
00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:12,436
And you have to really
find a collective mindset
1058
00:46:12,436 --> 00:46:14,538
to make the
character work.
1059
00:46:14,538 --> 00:46:16,573
I mean, if somebody's
doing the eyes,
1060
00:46:16,573 --> 00:46:17,674
and someone else
is doing the head,
1061
00:46:17,674 --> 00:46:19,643
the eyes have to lead
the head movement,
1062
00:46:19,643 --> 00:46:21,245
And usually there's
a blink in there,
1063
00:46:21,245 --> 00:46:22,412
and that's somebody else.
1064
00:46:22,412 --> 00:46:23,680
And if he's reacting
to something,
1065
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,416
a brow needs to go up
while he's turning.
1066
00:46:26,416 --> 00:46:27,417
- What gives
over here yet?
1067
00:46:27,417 --> 00:46:28,619
Are we through here yet?
1068
00:46:28,619 --> 00:46:30,154
Give us us a bit of
the nasty thing,
1069
00:46:30,154 --> 00:46:31,021
then I want him to relax.
1070
00:46:31,021 --> 00:46:31,755
Yeah.
1071
00:46:31,989 --> 00:46:34,591
- And then when he does
the turn to his left
1072
00:46:34,591 --> 00:46:36,593
lead with the left brow
1073
00:46:36,593 --> 00:46:39,730
going up along
with the turn.
1074
00:46:39,730 --> 00:46:41,665
- If each one of those
is a different person
1075
00:46:41,665 --> 00:46:43,734
and you're trying to
think as one character,
1076
00:46:43,734 --> 00:46:47,337
you either get in sync really
quick, or it doesn't work.
1077
00:46:47,337 --> 00:46:48,505
- Oh shit.
1078
00:47:35,586 --> 00:47:37,688
- With every new rebirth
1079
00:47:37,688 --> 00:47:40,591
of a film Chucky's look
changes a little bit.
1080
00:47:40,591 --> 00:47:44,428
In the first two films,
Chucky was possessed
1081
00:47:44,428 --> 00:47:46,463
by Charles Lee Ray,
I mean he still is.
1082
00:47:46,463 --> 00:47:48,632
But he was progressively
turning human,
1083
00:47:48,632 --> 00:47:50,434
which is for one
reason or another
1084
00:47:50,434 --> 00:47:52,536
not the case anymore.
1085
00:47:52,536 --> 00:47:55,572
You know, there's a lot
of Chucky purists as I say
1086
00:47:55,572 --> 00:47:57,741
that would say, "Oh, I
hate the way Chucky looks.
1087
00:47:57,741 --> 00:47:59,843
I wish he looked like he
did in the first film."
1088
00:47:59,843 --> 00:48:02,579
But if you follow the story
that wouldn't make sense.
1089
00:48:02,579 --> 00:48:04,548
- I watched the doll,
but not, of course,
1090
00:48:04,548 --> 00:48:05,883
I can't have a scene
with the doll.
1091
00:48:05,883 --> 00:48:10,254
You know, it was great to
be finally able to be there,
1092
00:48:10,254 --> 00:48:12,823
and be around and watch.
1093
00:48:12,823 --> 00:48:16,593
- Today, will be the first
time I've ever seen Chucky
1094
00:48:17,995 --> 00:48:20,230
in the plastic
version work.
1095
00:48:31,475 --> 00:48:33,577
- In "Curse of Chucky,"
it's like a refresh
1096
00:48:33,577 --> 00:48:35,646
even though it's continuing
the same storyline,
1097
00:48:35,646 --> 00:48:37,614
you get the whole new
cast of characters,
1098
00:48:37,614 --> 00:48:40,384
primarily Nica, who's
played by Fiona Dourif,
1099
00:48:40,384 --> 00:48:41,618
Brad Dourif's daughter,
1100
00:48:41,618 --> 00:48:42,920
which is really fun
and interesting.
1101
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,656
- And we don't get to work
with Brad all that often.
1102
00:48:45,656 --> 00:48:47,624
All his stuff is
done ahead of time.
1103
00:48:47,624 --> 00:48:49,760
So he's kind of
on the periphery.
1104
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,863
Although, when we did
"Curse of Chucky,"
1105
00:48:52,863 --> 00:48:56,667
he was on set everyday
that Fiona was working.
1106
00:48:56,667 --> 00:48:59,603
And he was there as
like the proud dad.
1107
00:48:59,603 --> 00:49:02,472
- He's been like interjecting
embarrassing stories
1108
00:49:02,472 --> 00:49:04,541
from my childhood.
- Yeah.
1109
00:49:04,541 --> 00:49:05,275
- You know, median's with-
- The press junket
1110
00:49:05,275 --> 00:49:06,243
will be fun.
1111
00:49:07,411 --> 00:49:08,745
- And we kind of
bonded as parents.
1112
00:49:08,745 --> 00:49:12,382
Which is funny, 'cause
then I go to work
1113
00:49:12,382 --> 00:49:13,650
and I listen to his
voice coming out
1114
00:49:13,650 --> 00:49:15,452
of this doll while we're
trying to stab Fiona.
1115
00:49:20,891 --> 00:49:24,561
- I like that Nica is a
person who is in a
wheelchair.
1116
00:49:24,561 --> 00:49:27,397
You don't see that depicted
often in horror movies,
1117
00:49:27,397 --> 00:49:30,400
especially not as
the primary hero.
1118
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,636
- When I was cast
in the first one,
1119
00:49:32,636 --> 00:49:34,438
I was nervous that I wasn't
gonna take it seriously.
1120
00:49:34,438 --> 00:49:36,440
Because on set, you know,
1121
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,508
there's this moving,
walking puppet,
1122
00:49:38,508 --> 00:49:40,577
and they play
my dad's voice.
1123
00:49:40,577 --> 00:49:41,712
And I was like,
"I think you guys
1124
00:49:41,712 --> 00:49:43,580
are just gonna have to
say it, say the words."
1125
00:49:43,580 --> 00:49:45,649
Because he sounds
like my dad.
1126
00:49:45,649 --> 00:49:48,618
- One quick,
decisive motion.
1127
00:49:48,618 --> 00:49:50,520
'Cause he's like fallen
and now he's looking right
1128
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,788
back up at Nica.
1129
00:49:51,788 --> 00:49:54,424
- Don said no, he said
that he wanted it
1130
00:49:54,424 --> 00:49:56,660
to be the recording.
1131
00:49:56,660 --> 00:49:58,628
And it actually
really helped,
1132
00:49:58,628 --> 00:50:01,498
'cause there was something
so unnerving about it.
1133
00:50:01,498 --> 00:50:04,534
- I'm gonna
kill you slow.
1134
00:50:05,836 --> 00:50:08,605
- But having my dad's voice
was helpful, ultimately.
1135
00:50:08,605 --> 00:50:12,509
It was, really creepy.
1136
00:50:12,509 --> 00:50:13,477
- Thank you.
1137
00:50:15,278 --> 00:50:16,546
- Ugh.
1138
00:50:16,546 --> 00:50:18,415
- When we started off
it was 30 years ago, and
1139
00:50:19,750 --> 00:50:24,321
Fiona was, you know, like
a year old, or something.
1140
00:50:24,321 --> 00:50:25,722
- Here's
five-year-old Fiona,
1141
00:50:25,722 --> 00:50:27,657
and there's
12-year-old Fiona.
1142
00:50:27,657 --> 00:50:28,725
And she doesn't
remember any of this.
1143
00:50:28,725 --> 00:50:30,460
But there were
certain events
1144
00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:31,661
and screenings where
I would see her.
1145
00:50:31,661 --> 00:50:34,664
And then she grew up, and
she became an actress.
1146
00:50:34,664 --> 00:50:38,535
She came in on "Curse"
and she read for
1147
00:50:38,535 --> 00:50:41,238
the role of the
bitchy older sister.
1148
00:50:41,238 --> 00:50:42,439
And she was really good.
1149
00:50:42,439 --> 00:50:43,907
But I was looking at
her and was like,
1150
00:50:43,907 --> 00:50:46,743
"I actually think she'd be
really good as the lead."
1151
00:50:46,743 --> 00:50:49,613
And it's just like, wow
that just would be
1152
00:50:49,613 --> 00:50:51,848
an odd thing to find the
lead in our backyard.
1153
00:50:51,848 --> 00:50:53,817
You know the daughter of
the guy who plays Chucky.
1154
00:50:53,817 --> 00:50:56,720
- Fans have been asking
for really wanting
1155
00:50:56,720 --> 00:51:00,590
a return to the kind
of straightforward,
1156
00:51:00,590 --> 00:51:03,427
legitimately scary
tone that we had
1157
00:51:03,427 --> 00:51:04,561
in the first
couple of movies.
1158
00:51:04,561 --> 00:51:06,496
- Well Don Mancini did
a very clever thing.
1159
00:51:06,496 --> 00:51:09,599
Was when his budget got
slashed so drastically
1160
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:11,535
when it came to doing
"Curse of Chucky,"
1161
00:51:11,535 --> 00:51:13,503
and "Cult of Chucky."
1162
00:51:13,503 --> 00:51:15,505
Did what a lot of low
budget filmmakers do
1163
00:51:15,505 --> 00:51:17,641
is set their movies
in one location.
1164
00:51:17,641 --> 00:51:21,478
You're able to tell a
very claustrophobic story.
1165
00:51:21,478 --> 00:51:24,314
- When you're filming
usually on a limited budget
1166
00:51:24,314 --> 00:51:26,550
in one or two locations,
1167
00:51:26,550 --> 00:51:29,853
it often gives
you bumpers.
1168
00:51:29,853 --> 00:51:33,356
You got to find it in there,
you can't find it out there.
1169
00:51:33,356 --> 00:51:34,624
You can't find
it up there.
1170
00:51:34,624 --> 00:51:36,660
You got to find
it right in here.
1171
00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:39,729
When we did "Insidious" it
was all in one location.
1172
00:51:39,729 --> 00:51:42,799
Being in a house is
especially claustrophobic.
1173
00:51:42,799 --> 00:51:45,769
You're in this space
and what's going on is
1174
00:51:45,769 --> 00:51:48,705
it's walking down the
hallway, it's in the window.
1175
00:51:48,705 --> 00:51:51,508
It's not on the streets,
it's in your house.
1176
00:51:51,508 --> 00:51:54,578
But it's all here, it's
all on top of you.
1177
00:51:54,578 --> 00:51:57,881
And when horror is on top
of you, it's really scary.
1178
00:51:57,881 --> 00:52:00,584
- What happened to all horror
it seemed like at first
1179
00:52:00,584 --> 00:52:03,753
it was scary, then
it went so ugly,
1180
00:52:03,753 --> 00:52:05,555
like it got like
torture porn.
1181
00:52:05,555 --> 00:52:07,424
And then it got funny.
1182
00:52:07,424 --> 00:52:08,592
And then it got
to be ridiculous
1183
00:52:08,592 --> 00:52:10,427
that it wasn't
funny anymore.
1184
00:52:10,427 --> 00:52:12,496
- By Scream 3 it
felt like they knew
1185
00:52:12,496 --> 00:52:14,464
they were in a
horror movie.
1186
00:52:14,464 --> 00:52:16,666
It almost started to
fell like a "Scary Movie"
1187
00:52:16,666 --> 00:52:17,501
which was coming out
at the same time.
1188
00:52:19,369 --> 00:52:21,638
- Oh, shit.
1189
00:52:21,638 --> 00:52:23,740
- And then you had to go
back to still being scary.
1190
00:52:23,740 --> 00:52:25,408
- That's one of the
reasons why I think he went
1191
00:52:25,408 --> 00:52:28,311
for the more scare
approach than,
1192
00:52:28,311 --> 00:52:29,613
you know, "Seed,
and "Bride,"
1193
00:52:29,613 --> 00:52:32,682
because he was working
with less money.
1194
00:52:32,682 --> 00:52:35,652
It needed to be scary to
really win people over.
1195
00:52:35,652 --> 00:52:37,888
- I mean we're trying
to bring Chucky back
1196
00:52:37,888 --> 00:52:44,327
to being a very sinister
and very sick, scary entity.
1197
00:52:47,330 --> 00:52:48,698
- This is the first time I've
actually physically been
1198
00:52:48,698 --> 00:52:50,667
on a set with him
and directed him.
1199
00:52:50,667 --> 00:52:53,537
Now, of course, it's more
fun to bring his daughter
1200
00:52:53,537 --> 00:52:56,573
into the series as this
particular movie's star.
1201
00:52:56,573 --> 00:53:00,510
- Don Mancini told me
when he cast you he said,
1202
00:53:00,510 --> 00:53:02,879
"You know, the thing
about Fiona is,
1203
00:53:02,879 --> 00:53:06,616
and the reason why is she
actually looks like somebody
1204
00:53:06,616 --> 00:53:08,885
who this could
really happen to.
1205
00:53:08,885 --> 00:53:11,254
- But then we had her come
back in and read for Nica,
1206
00:53:11,254 --> 00:53:13,423
and she was really great.
1207
00:53:13,423 --> 00:53:14,791
- She had to audition
quite a few times.
1208
00:53:14,791 --> 00:53:16,960
How many times did you have
to audition for Chucky?
1209
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:17,627
Three times.
1210
00:53:17,627 --> 00:53:18,762
- Three times,
then she had
1211
00:53:18,762 --> 00:53:20,530
to audition three
times for that.
1212
00:53:20,530 --> 00:53:23,500
So she got it because
she earned it.
1213
00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:26,503
- There's a new person
coming in playing the lead.
1214
00:53:26,503 --> 00:53:28,605
How's this dynamic
gonna shift?
1215
00:53:28,605 --> 00:53:29,739
And is she gonna
be a team player?
1216
00:53:29,739 --> 00:53:31,608
She's more than
a team player.
1217
00:53:31,608 --> 00:53:32,909
She's literally
part of the group,
1218
00:53:32,909 --> 00:53:35,612
and you feel like she's been
there since the beginning,
1219
00:53:35,612 --> 00:53:37,681
because she gets it, and
she gets how it works.
1220
00:53:37,681 --> 00:53:40,483
And to help us get
what we need,
1221
00:53:40,483 --> 00:53:42,586
because the puppet's
eyes can really only turn
1222
00:53:42,586 --> 00:53:45,622
this far to the right,
so she'll adjust.
1223
00:53:45,622 --> 00:53:47,991
And she just had it
from the very beginning.
1224
00:53:47,991 --> 00:53:51,628
- Also, for whatever reason
she has this incredible
ability
1225
00:53:51,628 --> 00:53:54,731
to register
trauma and pain.
1226
00:53:54,731 --> 00:53:56,633
- In order for the actors
to truly believe they're
1227
00:53:56,633 --> 00:53:58,535
in danger, whatever
it may be,
1228
00:53:58,535 --> 00:54:02,806
there's a level of
bringing the audience in to
1229
00:54:02,806 --> 00:54:05,575
almost forget that
they're in danger,
1230
00:54:05,575 --> 00:54:07,644
or you're in danger
in the next moment.
1231
00:54:07,644 --> 00:54:09,746
- I mean, fear is such
an interesting emotion.
1232
00:54:09,746 --> 00:54:13,650
And the elements that add
up to fear, real fear,
1233
00:54:13,650 --> 00:54:15,752
cross that line obviously,
between being imaginary
1234
00:54:15,752 --> 00:54:17,654
and something really
happening to you.
1235
00:54:17,654 --> 00:54:18,788
- I think it's an
incredible genre.
1236
00:54:18,788 --> 00:54:21,491
He stakes are higher
than in, you know,
1237
00:54:21,491 --> 00:54:23,660
like a typical
drama or comedy.
1238
00:54:23,660 --> 00:54:25,395
The stakes are higher
in a different way.
1239
00:54:25,395 --> 00:54:26,830
The world that you
create is one
1240
00:54:26,830 --> 00:54:29,532
that you have to live in
your mind in different way.
1241
00:54:29,532 --> 00:54:31,468
- Your body doesn't
know you're pretending.
1242
00:54:31,468 --> 00:54:33,503
When you're
frightened in a film,
1243
00:54:33,503 --> 00:54:35,772
or if you put yourself
there, weird things happen.
1244
00:54:35,772 --> 00:54:38,541
I mean, you start sweating,
your hands get cold.
1245
00:54:38,541 --> 00:54:40,310
Often, for me, it's
always crying.
1246
00:54:40,310 --> 00:54:42,479
- But in crying scenes
1247
00:54:42,479 --> 00:54:44,714
there is like no
veil to cover you.
1248
00:54:44,714 --> 00:54:47,317
Even in real life, like,
sometimes those cries
1249
00:54:47,317 --> 00:54:48,551
that you just can't stop,
1250
00:54:48,551 --> 00:54:51,521
when they get
captured on camera,
1251
00:54:51,521 --> 00:54:53,757
it's almost like a glimpse
into your real soul.
1252
00:54:53,757 --> 00:54:55,458
- The real-er you
are the better.
1253
00:54:55,458 --> 00:54:56,726
Bring your emotions,
bringing your timing,
1254
00:54:56,726 --> 00:54:58,628
bring your realness to
it, bring your truth.
1255
00:54:58,628 --> 00:55:01,531
- It almost sounds sadistic
that I need to like,
1256
00:55:01,531 --> 00:55:04,634
I want to see you
register this kind of pain
1257
00:55:04,634 --> 00:55:07,337
that I've seen you do
in real life.
1258
00:55:07,337 --> 00:55:08,705
Because I'm your
friend now,
1259
00:55:08,705 --> 00:55:10,573
and I saw you go through
this horrible experience.
1260
00:55:10,573 --> 00:55:12,542
Let's use that
in the movie.
1261
00:55:12,542 --> 00:55:14,577
- It has sometimes
there's been moments
1262
00:55:14,577 --> 00:55:17,480
that have taken me into
places I almost didn't want
1263
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,649
to go, but I went anyway.
1264
00:55:19,649 --> 00:55:21,718
Because there's that
little part of you going,
1265
00:55:21,718 --> 00:55:24,321
this is important,
this is happening.
1266
00:55:24,321 --> 00:55:26,323
Go, go, go, go, go.
1267
00:55:26,323 --> 00:55:28,625
And I won't
censor myself.
1268
00:55:28,625 --> 00:55:31,761
- Which I think makes a great
actor I think when you do
that
1269
00:55:31,761 --> 00:55:34,597
you're communicating with
the people who are watching.
1270
00:55:34,597 --> 00:55:36,633
- Stuff that you
experience in real life,
1271
00:55:36,633 --> 00:55:38,768
you go, we'll we can use that
as fodder in the next film.
1272
00:55:38,768 --> 00:55:40,737
And I want to take the
character that you play
1273
00:55:40,737 --> 00:55:42,672
in the Chucky franchise
to that place
1274
00:55:42,672 --> 00:55:44,541
that I know that
you're able to go.
1275
00:55:44,541 --> 00:55:46,042
But people haven't seen
you go there before.
1276
00:55:48,578 --> 00:55:51,514
She's a great friend,
1277
00:55:51,514 --> 00:55:54,317
and just a really
inspiring collaborator.
1278
00:56:54,811 --> 00:56:58,548
- When you work on a Chucky
film you have the task
1279
00:56:58,548 --> 00:57:00,650
of doing the same thing
over and over again
1280
00:57:00,650 --> 00:57:02,385
until the doll does
what he's supposed
1281
00:57:02,385 --> 00:57:03,586
to do perfectly right.
1282
00:57:03,586 --> 00:57:05,722
Simple things
take awhile.
1283
00:57:05,722 --> 00:57:08,258
- If people had more
of an idea of what went
1284
00:57:08,258 --> 00:57:11,628
into animating a movie,
1285
00:57:11,628 --> 00:57:14,431
or for that matter,
animating Chucky.
1286
00:57:14,431 --> 00:57:15,698
I think people would have
1287
00:57:15,698 --> 00:57:19,502
a much bigger reverence
for those kind of movies.
1288
00:57:19,502 --> 00:57:22,572
Because it's this whole
other level of complication.
1289
00:57:22,572 --> 00:57:25,542
- It's not just us doing
the animatronic puppet
1290
00:57:25,542 --> 00:57:27,343
and making it come alive,
and everything works.
1291
00:57:27,343 --> 00:57:28,645
We have to work
with Fiona,
1292
00:57:28,645 --> 00:57:30,847
and Don has to work
with us to find an angle
1293
00:57:30,847 --> 00:57:33,716
that makes the limitations
of the puppeteers,
1294
00:57:33,716 --> 00:57:37,387
or the fact that he can't
do certain things work.
1295
00:57:37,387 --> 00:57:39,856
So we really
have to connect,
1296
00:57:39,856 --> 00:57:43,560
and we have to work as a
team to just get a shot.
1297
00:57:52,735 --> 00:57:56,606
- You have to focus on the
moving, the moving puppet,
1298
00:57:56,606 --> 00:57:59,609
and block out all of
the people around him
1299
00:57:59,609 --> 00:58:02,445
that are having like rods
up his ass and stuff.
1300
00:58:02,445 --> 00:58:03,346
- Oh, dear!
1301
00:58:05,482 --> 00:58:06,516
- You don't get a
chance to be like,
1302
00:58:06,516 --> 00:58:07,584
"Well, I'll do
one this way,
1303
00:58:07,584 --> 00:58:08,718
and then I'll do
one that way."
1304
00:58:08,718 --> 00:58:12,622
Because once Chucky
does the right thing
1305
00:58:12,622 --> 00:58:14,324
and we've already spent
30 minutes on it,
1306
00:58:14,324 --> 00:58:15,558
you know we
gotta move on.
1307
00:58:15,558 --> 00:58:17,460
- When you have a character
that's not a human being
1308
00:58:17,460 --> 00:58:18,461
that you can't
just say, "Oh now,
1309
00:58:18,461 --> 00:58:20,630
let's try it over here."
1310
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:23,533
When you have to plan that
stuff out that specifically,
1311
00:58:23,533 --> 00:58:25,301
just so you know where
he's gonna be looking,
1312
00:58:25,301 --> 00:58:26,803
what his action
is gonna be,
1313
00:58:26,803 --> 00:58:29,772
'cause it may take several
to get that action done.
1314
00:58:29,772 --> 00:58:32,742
- So I think if it was
any other sort of series,
1315
00:58:32,742 --> 00:58:34,511
I think there would be a
bit more of a disconnect
1316
00:58:34,511 --> 00:58:36,779
between all of the
people involved.
1317
00:58:36,779 --> 00:58:39,249
Because you'd all have your
little piece of the puzzle,
1318
00:58:39,249 --> 00:58:40,683
and it would all plug in.
1319
00:58:40,683 --> 00:58:43,553
Here, we all
have to plug in
1320
00:58:43,553 --> 00:58:45,889
just to get each shot
and make it work.
1321
00:58:45,889 --> 00:58:52,562
You're the last one
standing, so to speak.
1322
00:58:54,531 --> 00:58:56,633
- Yeah, when you're acting
with Chucky, Chucky's a
figure
1323
00:58:56,633 --> 00:58:59,502
that is walking, and
talking and moving,
1324
00:58:59,502 --> 00:59:02,572
which it makes it easier
than acting to an X.
1325
00:59:02,572 --> 00:59:05,775
- So you never actually
killed Andy Barclay, did
you?
1326
00:59:05,775 --> 00:59:08,411
- I was really excited
and happy when I got
1327
00:59:08,411 --> 00:59:09,913
the call from Don
for "Curse."
1328
00:59:09,913 --> 00:59:13,583
He told me, "I'm trying to
write something in for you.
1329
00:59:13,583 --> 00:59:15,518
I got to get it
approved by the studio.
1330
00:59:15,518 --> 00:59:17,587
I don't want you to
get your hopes up."
1331
00:59:17,587 --> 00:59:20,623
- It was like a test to
see how that would go.
1332
00:59:20,623 --> 00:59:21,524
- And so I read it,
and I loved the scene
1333
00:59:21,524 --> 00:59:23,526
that he had for Andy.
1334
00:59:23,526 --> 00:59:24,661
I thought it was fun.
1335
00:59:24,661 --> 00:59:26,663
I got to get a little
bit of revenge
1336
00:59:26,663 --> 00:59:28,197
and shoot him
with a shotgun.
1337
00:59:29,098 --> 00:59:31,868
- The fan response
was really positive.
1338
00:59:31,868 --> 00:59:33,603
- And they were really
excited to see me in that
scene.
1339
00:59:33,603 --> 00:59:35,572
- And he did really well.
1340
00:59:35,572 --> 00:59:38,107
It's a nice group of
all of us players
1341
00:59:39,242 --> 00:59:40,543
that have worked
together on these.
1342
00:59:40,543 --> 00:59:42,712
- You know one of the
reasons I like to keep
1343
00:59:42,712 --> 00:59:44,547
a lot of the same
people around,
1344
00:59:44,547 --> 00:59:48,484
because you know you
work well together.
1345
00:59:48,484 --> 00:59:49,652
- Well, it was like
having a reparatory group.
1346
00:59:49,652 --> 00:59:51,654
You don't even have
to talk barely.
1347
00:59:51,654 --> 00:59:53,790
You're one step ahead 'cause
you know how everybody
thinks,
1348
00:59:53,790 --> 00:59:55,558
and what's their strong
points, their weak points.
1349
00:59:55,558 --> 00:59:57,560
- It because a shorthand.
1350
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,229
You realize when
you're filming movies
1351
01:00:01,364 --> 01:00:06,469
time is your best friend
and your worst enemy.
1352
01:00:06,469 --> 01:00:09,439
Everything's a shot,
I'm fighting the sun,
1353
01:00:09,439 --> 01:00:10,840
I'm fighting the light.
1354
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,508
You're always fighting
something in the movies.
1355
01:00:12,508 --> 01:00:14,644
- And you know you're
gonna be working
1356
01:00:14,644 --> 01:00:17,413
these long hours under
intense conditions.
1357
01:00:17,413 --> 01:00:18,481
- There's a book,
"Good to Great"
1358
01:00:18,481 --> 01:00:20,683
and it says put good
people on the bus with you,
1359
01:00:20,683 --> 01:00:22,785
so no matter what
direction you go in,
1360
01:00:22,785 --> 01:00:25,655
that you know your team
of people on that bus,
1361
01:00:25,655 --> 01:00:27,490
that they're just
down ass people.
1362
01:00:27,490 --> 01:00:29,225
- You're forced to
be in environment
1363
01:00:29,225 --> 01:00:30,627
with the same people.
1364
01:00:30,627 --> 01:00:34,731
And you really have no other
choice but to make these
bonds.
1365
01:00:34,731 --> 01:00:36,666
- There's something
about creating something,
1366
01:00:36,666 --> 01:00:38,534
a piece of art
with somebody,
1367
01:00:38,534 --> 01:00:41,638
that somehow bonds you
in a really cool way.
1368
01:00:41,638 --> 01:00:44,574
- But when the circumstances
are particularly challenging
1369
01:00:44,574 --> 01:00:47,610
then you kind of bond even
more like we did on "Cult."
1370
01:00:47,610 --> 01:00:50,480
You know, we were
shooting in blizzards,
1371
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,682
in 40 degree below
temperatures.
1372
01:00:56,686 --> 01:00:59,055
Here
we go, and action.
1373
01:01:03,559 --> 01:01:06,429
And he goes back to
being dead, very good.
1374
01:01:06,429 --> 01:01:07,730
And cut!
1375
01:01:07,730 --> 01:01:11,434
- We were in Winnipeg
in the winter.
1376
01:01:11,434 --> 01:01:13,469
It was like negative
42 when we arrived,
1377
01:01:13,469 --> 01:01:14,737
and it didn't
even matter.
1378
01:01:14,737 --> 01:01:16,773
- We were literally
joined at the hip
1379
01:01:16,773 --> 01:01:19,575
through the whole
production process.
1380
01:01:19,575 --> 01:01:22,612
Because there isn't a day
where Chucky doesn't work.
1381
01:01:22,612 --> 01:01:23,813
But we know each other
and there's a shorthand,
1382
01:01:23,813 --> 01:01:26,416
and we compliment each
other really well.
1383
01:01:26,416 --> 01:01:29,552
Everything's great. Look!
1384
01:01:32,655 --> 01:01:35,391
- You're basically
climbing mountain together.
1385
01:01:35,391 --> 01:01:37,427
And you have to have
each other's back.
1386
01:01:37,427 --> 01:01:38,995
And you know you
can't do it alone.
1387
01:01:38,995 --> 01:01:42,598
And if you are successful in
scaling the mountain
together,
1388
01:01:42,598 --> 01:01:44,567
you sort of like, oh my
god, we're awesome together.
1389
01:01:44,567 --> 01:01:45,468
Drill.
1390
01:01:47,770 --> 01:01:50,673
- Don's gotten so confident
in his story telling
1391
01:01:50,673 --> 01:01:52,442
he's starting to
experiment now,
1392
01:01:52,442 --> 01:01:53,710
with the visual side
of it a lot more.
1393
01:01:53,710 --> 01:01:56,412
- It's very
deliberately surreal,
1394
01:01:56,412 --> 01:01:57,780
and kind of trippy.
1395
01:01:57,780 --> 01:02:00,650
Because you're dealing
with people who are insane.
1396
01:02:00,650 --> 01:02:02,752
- Four years after
"Curse" continuing
1397
01:02:02,752 --> 01:02:04,821
that storyline with Nica
in a mental institute,
1398
01:02:04,821 --> 01:02:06,723
and you got a fun cast
of characters there
1399
01:02:06,723 --> 01:02:08,458
with the people
inside of it.
1400
01:02:08,458 --> 01:02:11,494
- They have schizophrenia,
or whatever it is.
1401
01:02:11,494 --> 01:02:14,430
You have people on drugs.
1402
01:02:14,430 --> 01:02:16,432
You have people
getting hypnotized.
1403
01:02:16,432 --> 01:02:18,568
You have dream sequences.
1404
01:02:18,568 --> 01:02:20,369
- It plays a lot
with roles.
1405
01:02:20,369 --> 01:02:21,471
So it's like
role playing,
1406
01:02:21,471 --> 01:02:23,639
and who's crazy, and
who's not crazy?
1407
01:02:23,639 --> 01:02:25,742
- Part of what we
wanted to do was like
1408
01:02:25,742 --> 01:02:29,445
a new genre, a new
feel, a new aesthetic.
1409
01:02:29,445 --> 01:02:30,813
- It's all very
monochromatic,
1410
01:02:30,813 --> 01:02:33,382
and then Chucky walks in
and he's all bright stripes,
1411
01:02:33,382 --> 01:02:34,550
and he stands out.
1412
01:02:34,550 --> 01:02:37,487
- So the red hair and
blood really pops.
1413
01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:45,828
- The "Child's Play"
franchise is a little
unusual
1414
01:02:45,828 --> 01:02:48,664
in horror franchises,
that I think it's kind of
1415
01:02:48,664 --> 01:02:51,701
a gateway drug to horror
for a lot of children.
1416
01:02:51,701 --> 01:02:54,370
For obvious reasons,
'cause it's a doll.
1417
01:02:54,370 --> 01:02:55,605
And so they key
in to that.
1418
01:02:55,605 --> 01:02:57,607
But so Andy was
their hero,
1419
01:02:57,607 --> 01:02:59,008
and so they've
all grown up.
1420
01:02:59,008 --> 01:03:03,179
And now, they're vaguely
disaffected 20 somethings.
1421
01:03:04,213 --> 01:03:05,915
They're like, "Andy's
got to come back."
1422
01:03:05,915 --> 01:03:09,619
So the challenge was to bring
Andy back into the story,
1423
01:03:09,619 --> 01:03:11,654
but in a way that
would surprise them.
1424
01:03:11,654 --> 01:03:12,989
- And I think it
was really fun,
1425
01:03:14,423 --> 01:03:16,993
as an actor, to
reprise a role,
1426
01:03:16,993 --> 01:03:20,696
that has been a topic in my
life since I was
six-years-old.
1427
01:03:20,696 --> 01:03:23,599
And now, I get to put
some life into what Andy
1428
01:03:23,599 --> 01:03:25,768
would be like had he
survived that childhood.
1429
01:03:25,768 --> 01:03:28,971
- And you would have
aspects of PTSD.
1430
01:03:28,971 --> 01:03:32,508
And how would that manifest
in your life as a
30-something?
1431
01:03:32,508 --> 01:03:33,943
- He has clearly
struggled with
1432
01:03:35,077 --> 01:03:37,713
the effects that Chucky
has had on his life,
1433
01:03:37,713 --> 01:03:41,417
and his inability
to move past it
1434
01:03:41,417 --> 01:03:42,718
with others in a
relationship.
1435
01:03:42,718 --> 01:03:44,620
And probably even
within himself.
1436
01:03:44,620 --> 01:03:47,890
So the way we left it
from "Curse of Chucky"
1437
01:03:47,890 --> 01:03:51,828
I think Andy torturing this
doll for the past four years
1438
01:03:51,828 --> 01:03:54,197
is the perfect route that
Andy should have gone.
1439
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,369
- This was the first time
that I had ever done
something
1440
01:04:00,369 --> 01:04:01,637
that was written for me.
1441
01:04:01,637 --> 01:04:06,709
I just had way
more confidence.
1442
01:04:06,709 --> 01:04:08,711
I was like way
more relaxed.
1443
01:04:08,711 --> 01:04:11,480
It just made it
so much more fun.
1444
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,482
- In the "Cult of Chucky"
1445
01:04:13,482 --> 01:04:15,318
there was an actor
that I slit his throat
1446
01:04:15,318 --> 01:04:16,552
in "Curse of Chucky".
1447
01:04:16,552 --> 01:04:17,687
And he was playing
a totally
1448
01:04:17,687 --> 01:04:19,589
different character,
Adam Hurtig.
1449
01:04:19,589 --> 01:04:21,490
- Well, "Curse of
Chucky" was kind of
1450
01:04:21,490 --> 01:04:24,727
a formative film
experience for me.
1451
01:04:24,727 --> 01:04:27,496
I was super intimated to
not only work with Don,
1452
01:04:27,496 --> 01:04:28,764
but to work with
Fiona, as well.
1453
01:04:28,764 --> 01:04:32,735
Not only did I come
in later on during
1454
01:04:32,735 --> 01:04:35,905
the filming process, but I
also have to die on camera.
1455
01:04:35,905 --> 01:04:38,741
And Jennifer Tilly had to
kill me. So no pressure.
1456
01:04:38,741 --> 01:04:41,544
- And when we went to
Toronto, Don goes,
1457
01:04:41,544 --> 01:04:43,546
"Jennifer this actor," 'cause
I didn't met him on the set,
1458
01:04:43,546 --> 01:04:44,614
'cause I didn't have
any scenes with him.
1459
01:04:44,614 --> 01:04:46,349
He goes, "This actor
that's in the Q&A,
1460
01:04:46,349 --> 01:04:47,250
you worked with
him before."
1461
01:04:47,250 --> 01:04:47,850
I go, "No, I didn't."
1462
01:04:48,284 --> 01:04:50,152
- How is it to be forgotten
by Jennifer Tilly?
1463
01:04:52,421 --> 01:04:54,857
Humbling. Whew.
1464
01:04:54,857 --> 01:04:57,526
- He goes, "Yes, in 'Curse of
Chucky' you slit his
throat."
1465
01:04:57,526 --> 01:04:58,594
Action.
1466
01:05:00,196 --> 01:05:02,198
And fall.
1467
01:05:04,233 --> 01:05:06,369
Aw.
1468
01:05:06,369 --> 01:05:08,537
- But it was fun
to see her face
1469
01:05:08,537 --> 01:05:10,506
when she actually
did remember me.
1470
01:05:10,506 --> 01:05:12,575
- And I do remember
I slit his throat.
1471
01:05:12,575 --> 01:05:13,809
And I remember he was
such a good sport.
1472
01:05:13,809 --> 01:05:16,445
- Oh, wait.
1473
01:05:16,445 --> 01:05:19,482
Oh! And it was this
nice, kind of like,
1474
01:05:19,482 --> 01:05:22,418
"Yeah, I'm back."
1475
01:05:22,418 --> 01:05:23,619
- Wait a minute,
there's two of them?
1476
01:05:23,619 --> 01:05:26,422
- It was this cool idea
that Don was having me
1477
01:05:26,422 --> 01:05:27,490
come back as a
different character.
1478
01:05:27,490 --> 01:05:28,391
- You're sick.
1479
01:05:29,692 --> 01:05:31,394
And not in the
fun way like me.
1480
01:05:32,628 --> 01:05:34,597
- And I got a chance
to really riff with Don
1481
01:05:34,597 --> 01:05:36,465
to see what it was
like to create
1482
01:05:36,465 --> 01:05:38,434
this character with
multiple personas.
1483
01:05:38,434 --> 01:05:39,835
- You're Mark
Zuckerberg, now.
1484
01:05:40,369 --> 01:05:41,070
- Yeah.
1485
01:05:42,471 --> 01:05:43,639
- Okay.
1486
01:05:43,639 --> 01:05:44,874
- I just think that's
so interesting
1487
01:05:44,874 --> 01:05:47,576
that Don just rehires people
to play another character.
1488
01:05:47,576 --> 01:05:48,644
It's like, "Oh you were
the cop in the last one,
1489
01:05:48,644 --> 01:05:50,513
but you can be this
psycho in this one.
1490
01:05:50,513 --> 01:05:51,714
No one's gonna notice."
1491
01:05:51,714 --> 01:05:53,716
- Just kind of makes
you wonder who's next.
1492
01:05:53,716 --> 01:05:56,419
- It was fun to come
back for "Cult."
1493
01:05:56,419 --> 01:05:57,386
Don actually asked
me to come back
1494
01:05:57,386 --> 01:05:58,854
for "Curse" at one point.
1495
01:05:58,854 --> 01:06:00,589
Though I think the character
there he was considering
1496
01:06:00,589 --> 01:06:02,591
having me do was
Fiona's mom.
1497
01:06:02,591 --> 01:06:03,759
And I'm glad it
didn't work out,
1498
01:06:03,759 --> 01:06:05,761
because I'm really happy
to have come back as Kyle.
1499
01:06:05,761 --> 01:06:07,697
It's a character
that I am fond of.
1500
01:06:07,697 --> 01:06:09,465
That part of my
life is something
1501
01:06:09,465 --> 01:06:10,466
I'm super
nostalgic about.
1502
01:06:10,466 --> 01:06:12,435
- Andy sent me.
1503
01:06:12,435 --> 01:06:13,536
We're gonna
have some fun.
1504
01:06:13,536 --> 01:06:14,637
- I like "Cult" a lot.
1505
01:06:14,637 --> 01:06:16,472
I think "Cult" is
shot beautifully.
1506
01:06:16,472 --> 01:06:17,673
I'm a fan to the
multiple Chuckys.
1507
01:06:17,673 --> 01:06:18,874
- And I know that
that was an idea
1508
01:06:18,874 --> 01:06:21,744
that Don had wanted to do way
back with "Child's Play 3."
1509
01:06:21,744 --> 01:06:24,547
So it's great to see
that finally realized,
1510
01:06:24,547 --> 01:06:25,715
and I think it
came off great.
1511
01:06:25,715 --> 01:06:27,416
- I think they're
all cute.
1512
01:06:27,416 --> 01:06:28,684
Like I love scene
where all three
1513
01:06:28,684 --> 01:06:29,618
of the Chuckys are
talking to each other.
1514
01:06:29,618 --> 01:06:31,387
And you have the
one armed Chucky
1515
01:06:31,387 --> 01:06:33,389
that's sort of a bad ass,
1516
01:06:33,389 --> 01:06:34,557
and you have the
innocent Chucky.
1517
01:06:34,557 --> 01:06:37,226
I just think that he's
really, really cute.
1518
01:06:37,226 --> 01:06:38,694
- I never felt so alive!
1519
01:06:38,694 --> 01:06:39,695
- Yeah, well,
you've been alive
1520
01:06:39,695 --> 01:06:42,965
for like two
minutes.
1521
01:06:42,965 --> 01:06:44,667
- I think it's important
to keep him practical.
1522
01:06:44,667 --> 01:06:45,701
I wish there was
more money for it,
1523
01:06:45,701 --> 01:06:47,436
but I'm glad it's
still practical.
1524
01:06:47,436 --> 01:06:49,472
- Yeah, we can't do
CGI with Chucky,
1525
01:06:49,472 --> 01:06:53,776
because it would take
away that pure element.
1526
01:06:53,776 --> 01:06:56,512
- Fans have made a point
of saying they don't want
1527
01:06:56,512 --> 01:06:58,481
to see CGI with Chucky.
1528
01:06:58,481 --> 01:07:00,716
They really,
really want a doll
1529
01:07:00,716 --> 01:07:02,852
that doesn't move
in perfect form.
1530
01:07:02,852 --> 01:07:06,789
As brilliant as Tony Gardner
is in bringing him to life,
1531
01:07:06,789 --> 01:07:10,726
there is still an
element that it's a doll,
1532
01:07:10,726 --> 01:07:13,829
and the movements are
different than human
movements.
1533
01:07:13,829 --> 01:07:16,565
And I think in there is
what makes it frightening.
1534
01:07:16,565 --> 01:07:20,536
I think if it was
perfect fluid form,
1535
01:07:20,536 --> 01:07:22,471
I don't think it would
be as frightening.
1536
01:07:22,471 --> 01:07:25,441
- When they just make
it digital it loses,
1537
01:07:25,441 --> 01:07:27,676
you know, definitely
loses something.
1538
01:07:27,676 --> 01:07:30,679
- The eye and the brain
could make that distinction
1539
01:07:30,679 --> 01:07:34,517
between computer
generated and rubber.
1540
01:07:34,517 --> 01:07:36,519
And rubber's just, it's
just so much more effective
1541
01:07:36,519 --> 01:07:38,554
most of the time.
1542
01:07:38,554 --> 01:07:40,589
- When we're lucky enough
to have practical effects,
1543
01:07:40,589 --> 01:07:43,859
it's a win-win for
everybody, for the actor.
1544
01:07:43,859 --> 01:07:46,629
- Especially when the actors
are interacting with it.
1545
01:07:46,629 --> 01:07:48,664
- You're living
through something
1546
01:07:48,664 --> 01:07:50,766
which your body
is experiencing.
1547
01:07:50,766 --> 01:07:54,470
And for the viewer,
they're living through
1548
01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:55,571
what you're
living through,
1549
01:07:55,571 --> 01:07:56,639
because you're
living through it,
1550
01:07:56,639 --> 01:07:58,607
and you're presenting
it to them.
1551
01:07:58,607 --> 01:08:00,443
- I think it was such
an incredible experience
1552
01:08:00,443 --> 01:08:02,545
to use practical effects.
1553
01:08:02,545 --> 01:08:05,714
In "Bad Hair," the hair
wraps around my ankle.
1554
01:08:05,714 --> 01:08:08,584
It pulls you and
then when I came in,
1555
01:08:08,584 --> 01:08:09,685
I had to like
cut the hair,
1556
01:08:09,685 --> 01:08:11,620
and all this blood
shoots out.
1557
01:08:11,620 --> 01:08:12,755
- People just
act differently
1558
01:08:12,755 --> 01:08:15,424
when they have blood
gushing everywhere.
1559
01:08:15,424 --> 01:08:16,525
And they can
actually see it,
1560
01:08:16,525 --> 01:08:17,726
and it's actually
something tangible.
1561
01:08:17,726 --> 01:08:19,662
- It heightened
the performance
1562
01:08:19,662 --> 01:08:22,531
because I had this
contraption around me.
1563
01:08:22,531 --> 01:08:24,733
I had this blood that's
about to spew all over.
1564
01:08:24,733 --> 01:08:28,437
- It enhances the whole
reality of the film.
1565
01:08:28,437 --> 01:08:30,573
It's not pretend,
it's real.
1566
01:08:30,573 --> 01:08:32,408
- All of us got pulled
into this world
1567
01:08:32,408 --> 01:08:34,643
in a very real and
grounded way,
1568
01:08:34,643 --> 01:08:38,214
that we may not have been
able to be pulled into,
1569
01:08:38,214 --> 01:08:39,815
had it all been VFX.
1570
01:08:39,815 --> 01:08:43,619
- Your imagination doesn't
have to work nearly as hard
1571
01:08:43,619 --> 01:08:45,788
with a killer doll than
with a ping pong ball.
1572
01:08:45,788 --> 01:08:47,723
- It's hard when you're just
in front of a green screen
1573
01:08:47,723 --> 01:08:49,692
and it's like, "Now
imagine that you're guts
1574
01:08:49,692 --> 01:08:51,627
are being torn out
of your body."
1575
01:08:51,627 --> 01:08:52,695
Cool, how do I
imagine that?
1576
01:08:52,695 --> 01:08:53,729
But if you see
yourself in it,
1577
01:08:53,729 --> 01:08:55,698
you almost get that
feeling already.
1578
01:08:55,698 --> 01:08:57,633
- When you put all
of that together
1579
01:08:57,633 --> 01:08:59,535
it's like magic,
you get to play.
1580
01:08:59,535 --> 01:09:01,604
- And there's something
so powerful about that,
1581
01:09:01,604 --> 01:09:03,539
because you're not
imagining something,
1582
01:09:03,539 --> 01:09:06,542
you are really experiencing
something together.
1583
01:09:06,542 --> 01:09:10,513
- So I think that
Chucky is physical,
1584
01:09:10,513 --> 01:09:12,414
it really, really
helps the world.
1585
01:09:12,414 --> 01:09:13,749
- Chucky's a doll.
1586
01:09:13,749 --> 01:09:15,551
So that when he walks
around and you see it,
1587
01:09:15,551 --> 01:09:17,453
it looks like
Chucky. You know,
1588
01:09:17,453 --> 01:09:19,522
it looks like
the real thing.
1589
01:09:19,522 --> 01:09:21,757
So you watch the scene
and the scene is real.
1590
01:09:21,757 --> 01:09:23,592
- He feels so real
in those movies,
1591
01:09:23,592 --> 01:09:24,760
because it was
all practical,
1592
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:26,629
and you actually see
the light bouncing off.
1593
01:09:26,629 --> 01:09:28,697
And it feels, you can
tell the difference
1594
01:09:28,697 --> 01:09:31,667
between the CG
Yoda, and the Yoda
1595
01:09:31,667 --> 01:09:33,536
from "Empire
Strikes Back."
1596
01:09:33,536 --> 01:09:34,870
- You got to buy into it.
1597
01:09:34,870 --> 01:09:37,640
And when it's a practical
thing that looks real,
1598
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:39,441
that helps you
buy into it.
1599
01:09:39,441 --> 01:09:40,676
- I think at least
having something there
1600
01:09:40,676 --> 01:09:43,779
as sort of a marker,
really, really helps
1601
01:09:43,779 --> 01:09:46,415
the acting process, just
from an actor's standpoint.
1602
01:09:46,415 --> 01:09:47,416
Yeah.
1603
01:09:47,416 --> 01:09:48,851
- And it saves money.
1604
01:09:48,851 --> 01:09:53,455
- I find that it's
financially, it's a saving
grace.
1605
01:09:53,455 --> 01:09:54,657
When we did
the last two films
1606
01:09:54,657 --> 01:09:56,392
that were direct
to video,
1607
01:09:56,392 --> 01:09:58,494
the budget was
substantially lower.
1608
01:09:58,494 --> 01:10:00,095
The budget for
the whole movie
1609
01:10:00,095 --> 01:10:01,730
was Kevin Yagher's
budget for building
1610
01:10:01,730 --> 01:10:03,532
the puppets for
the first film.
1611
01:10:03,532 --> 01:10:04,833
- They want it
to be more.
1612
01:10:04,833 --> 01:10:06,802
They want it to be cheaper
and have bigger stars,
1613
01:10:06,802 --> 01:10:09,305
and cost more and
music, and everything.
1614
01:10:09,305 --> 01:10:10,539
It's always like that.
1615
01:10:10,539 --> 01:10:12,808
And there were only
three puppeteers allowed
1616
01:10:12,808 --> 01:10:15,544
to go up from the United
States, including myself.
1617
01:10:15,544 --> 01:10:17,546
So I couldn't be behind
the monitor watching,
1618
01:10:17,546 --> 01:10:19,548
I had to focus on
performance, as well.
1619
01:10:19,548 --> 01:10:21,717
But we also lucked
into some local people
1620
01:10:21,717 --> 01:10:23,752
that really rose
to the occasion,
1621
01:10:23,752 --> 01:10:26,488
and were really great,
and did an amazing job.
1622
01:10:26,488 --> 01:10:27,523
It would have been
nice to have had time
1623
01:10:27,523 --> 01:10:30,226
to rehearse prior
to shooting.
1624
01:10:33,395 --> 01:10:34,396
But we dove in and
we were rehearsing
1625
01:10:34,396 --> 01:10:35,564
while we were shooting.
1626
01:10:35,564 --> 01:10:37,666
And given the resources
and the time,
1627
01:10:37,666 --> 01:10:40,302
I think everybody did
a really amazing job.
1628
01:11:22,011 --> 01:11:24,747
- And then the challenge
was to bring all
1629
01:11:24,747 --> 01:11:28,617
of these characters from
different aspects of the
franchise,
1630
01:11:28,617 --> 01:11:30,586
and put them on
collision courses,
1631
01:11:31,086 --> 01:11:33,622
and see what happens.
1632
01:11:33,622 --> 01:11:34,790
- That's the thing about
the franchise is,
1633
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:37,526
it's able to introduce
brand new elements,
1634
01:11:37,526 --> 01:11:40,663
and then weave them
in seamlessly.
1635
01:11:40,663 --> 01:11:42,564
And then they're just a
part of the franchise.
1636
01:11:42,564 --> 01:11:45,868
So by the time you see
in "Cult of Chucky" Nica
1637
01:11:45,868 --> 01:11:49,438
talking to Tiffany, it's
like, oh yeah that makes
sense.
1638
01:11:49,438 --> 01:11:51,573
- What happens
when Andy Barclay
1639
01:11:51,573 --> 01:11:54,543
and Nica Pierce
come together?
1640
01:11:54,543 --> 01:11:57,479
- And Fiona is such a great
actress, first of all.
1641
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,648
She is inspiringly good.
1642
01:11:59,648 --> 01:12:01,650
I really wish that we
got to do more together
1643
01:12:01,650 --> 01:12:03,552
than the one scene
that we had.
1644
01:12:03,552 --> 01:12:05,354
But the one scene
that we had was like
1645
01:12:05,354 --> 01:12:06,722
the highlight
of it for me.
1646
01:12:06,722 --> 01:12:09,591
Because I was really looking
forward to working with her.
1647
01:12:09,591 --> 01:12:11,393
- I just think it's more
1648
01:12:13,128 --> 01:12:16,432
interesting to play
the "bad guy".
1649
01:12:16,432 --> 01:12:17,433
- I'm done.
1650
01:12:17,433 --> 01:12:18,567
- You're done?
1651
01:12:18,567 --> 01:12:19,668
Yeah, that's interesting.
- I'm done.
1652
01:12:19,668 --> 01:12:21,470
I'm not doing
them anymore.
1653
01:12:21,470 --> 01:12:23,605
- I don't want to play
the victim anymore.
1654
01:12:23,605 --> 01:12:25,341
You guys
should just reverse.
1655
01:12:25,341 --> 01:12:26,175
- We are.
- We are.
1656
01:12:26,175 --> 01:12:28,844
We are.
1657
01:12:33,816 --> 01:12:37,519
- You have Tiffany, who's
inhabiting Jennifer Tilly's
body.
1658
01:12:37,519 --> 01:12:40,322
You have Fiona, which
is really genius,
1659
01:12:40,322 --> 01:12:41,824
inhabiting Chucky's body,
1660
01:12:41,824 --> 01:12:44,426
and you know Chucky is
her dad, Brad Dourif.
1661
01:12:44,426 --> 01:12:45,761
So she's basically
playing Brad.
1662
01:12:45,761 --> 01:12:47,930
- This last movie
I was just Like,
1663
01:12:49,298 --> 01:12:50,566
how did this happen?
1664
01:12:50,566 --> 01:12:52,568
How am I the lead of
this movie?
1665
01:12:52,568 --> 01:12:55,604
- She becomes Chucky,
ah, so brilliant.
1666
01:12:55,604 --> 01:12:58,474
That soul of
Chucky is in her.
1667
01:12:58,474 --> 01:12:59,708
- It would be
almost offensive
1668
01:12:59,708 --> 01:13:01,443
for anybody else
to be possessed
1669
01:13:01,443 --> 01:13:04,613
by Chucky, except
for Fiona.
1670
01:13:04,613 --> 01:13:05,681
Even with something weird,
incestuous and gross
1671
01:13:05,681 --> 01:13:07,416
about that you
could think,
1672
01:13:07,416 --> 01:13:08,450
it doesn't feel that
way at all.
1673
01:13:08,450 --> 01:13:10,119
It feels really organic
1674
01:13:10,119 --> 01:13:11,019
and I like it.
1675
01:13:11,019 --> 01:13:12,121
Like it
should be that way.
1676
01:13:12,121 --> 01:13:12,721
- Yes.
- Yeah.
1677
01:13:13,122 --> 01:13:14,623
- Somebody else doing
Brad would be sacrilage.
1678
01:13:14,623 --> 01:13:17,760
- It's kind of weird,
because like there's
1679
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,896
a young female version
of a guy you knew.
1680
01:13:21,497 --> 01:13:22,631
Well, that's Fiona.
1681
01:13:22,631 --> 01:13:24,767
- She is such a
brilliant actress.
1682
01:13:24,767 --> 01:13:27,736
And I saw her walking
out there, I saw Brad.
1683
01:13:27,736 --> 01:13:29,438
And it's weird, 'cause
I've never actually acted
1684
01:13:29,438 --> 01:13:31,507
with the real Brad.
1685
01:13:31,507 --> 01:13:33,509
I mean, off screen of course,
doing the voice overs.
1686
01:13:33,509 --> 01:13:35,411
But when she was
walking towards me,
1687
01:13:35,411 --> 01:13:37,613
I mean it was really,
really sexy.
1688
01:13:37,613 --> 01:13:38,680
She really sort of
morphed into Brad.
1689
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:41,617
- It was just
like a cacophony
1690
01:13:41,617 --> 01:13:43,786
of all of these emotions
going into doing it.
1691
01:13:43,786 --> 01:13:46,655
That I would have a
chance to play this thing
1692
01:13:47,656 --> 01:13:51,760
that my dad is
famous for doing.
1693
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,662
- I felt a little
bit bad for Fiona,
1694
01:13:53,662 --> 01:13:56,432
because when Don was
like, "Quick, quick,"
1695
01:13:56,432 --> 01:13:58,367
I would be like
lunge at her,
1696
01:13:58,367 --> 01:14:00,536
and our teeth
would clatter.
1697
01:14:00,536 --> 01:14:02,571
- I would get her
lipstick all over me.
1698
01:14:02,571 --> 01:14:04,840
And so we couldn't
just go again,
1699
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,709
'cause there was a big makeup
reset each time.
1700
01:14:07,709 --> 01:14:09,578
- Then she'd pull away and
I'd see she had lipstick
1701
01:14:09,578 --> 01:14:11,713
all over her
face.
1702
01:14:11,713 --> 01:14:15,350
And I said to her, "Fiona
when Entertainment Tonight
asks
1703
01:14:15,350 --> 01:14:16,485
if I'm a good kisser,
1704
01:14:16,485 --> 01:14:17,786
will you just please
lie and say yes?"
1705
01:14:17,786 --> 01:14:19,555
- It was really fun
working with Jennifer.
1706
01:14:19,555 --> 01:14:21,323
I had wanted to
my whole life.
1707
01:14:22,658 --> 01:14:24,259
I think it was
intimidating
1708
01:14:24,259 --> 01:14:26,595
'cause she's so funny.
1709
01:14:26,595 --> 01:14:29,465
- I would like to kiss Fiona
in a controlled environment,
1710
01:14:29,465 --> 01:14:30,666
because I want to
redeem myself.
1711
01:14:30,666 --> 01:14:33,435
- Making this
movie was so fun.
1712
01:14:33,435 --> 01:14:35,304
It was like surreal fun.
1713
01:14:35,304 --> 01:14:36,538
I just had a ball.
1714
01:14:36,538 --> 01:14:37,873
You can ask your dad.
1715
01:14:38,941 --> 01:14:41,510
We were all kind of
laughing the whole time.
1716
01:14:41,510 --> 01:14:44,713
Meanwhile my
dad is on the floor.
1717
01:14:44,713 --> 01:14:47,549
Your dad is always in the
corner on the floor.
1718
01:14:47,549 --> 01:14:48,650
Those are
her eye lines.
1719
01:14:48,650 --> 01:14:50,786
Yeah.
1720
01:14:50,786 --> 01:14:52,654
By now, I may
as well introduce myself
1721
01:14:52,654 --> 01:14:54,990
as Tony's daughter,
and the filmmaker.
1722
01:14:54,990 --> 01:14:57,693
I set out to meet all these
people surrounding the
franchise
1723
01:14:57,693 --> 01:14:59,728
whose names had been a
big part of my childhood,
1724
01:14:59,728 --> 01:15:01,530
but I never had the
chance to meet.
1725
01:15:01,530 --> 01:15:03,665
I haven't officially
met everybody
1726
01:15:03,665 --> 01:15:05,834
who's worked on the
Chucky movies.
1727
01:15:05,834 --> 01:15:08,837
But I feel like I've
known Brad my whole life.
1728
01:15:08,837 --> 01:15:13,475
Like you have, it's so
surreal meeting you now,
1729
01:15:13,475 --> 01:15:15,344
because you've been a
part of my childhood
1730
01:15:15,344 --> 01:15:17,446
since I was
practically born.
1731
01:15:17,446 --> 01:15:18,680
But I'd never met
you 'til now,
1732
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,516
but you've killed
my dad before.
1733
01:15:20,516 --> 01:15:21,683
And the only-
1734
01:15:21,683 --> 01:15:23,752
- And see I
never think of that.
1735
01:15:23,752 --> 01:15:25,654
There's all these weird
layers of all that.
1736
01:15:25,654 --> 01:15:27,656
Like
everybody who've I've
1737
01:15:27,656 --> 01:15:28,991
been interviewing
for this is like
1738
01:15:30,392 --> 01:15:31,493
in one way or
another been a part
1739
01:15:31,493 --> 01:15:33,462
of how I've grown up.
1740
01:15:33,462 --> 01:15:34,596
- That's interesting.
1741
01:15:34,596 --> 01:15:36,331
Chucky's
been so at the helm
1742
01:15:36,331 --> 01:15:38,200
of my family I think.
1743
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:38,834
So it's like kind of-
1744
01:15:39,201 --> 01:15:40,536
- You were how old when
it came into your life?
1745
01:15:40,536 --> 01:15:42,571
- You were a little one.
1746
01:15:42,571 --> 01:15:44,506
You were like
three-years-old,
four-years-old.
1747
01:15:44,506 --> 01:15:46,675
- So you literally
grew up with somebody,
1748
01:15:46,675 --> 01:15:48,443
like you grew up with
them in the family.
1749
01:15:48,443 --> 01:15:50,379
- I view him as a
little brother.
1750
01:15:50,379 --> 01:15:51,547
Because I'm the youngest,
1751
01:15:51,547 --> 01:15:53,515
I always wanted a
little sibling.
1752
01:15:53,515 --> 01:15:54,583
I thought it was
very interesting
1753
01:15:54,583 --> 01:15:57,519
that Fiona and I both
share growing up
1754
01:15:57,519 --> 01:15:59,621
with this doll, but
in different aspects
1755
01:15:59,621 --> 01:16:02,324
of her dad was an actor, and
mine was the head puppeteer.
1756
01:16:02,324 --> 01:16:05,327
- I was maybe
six or five?
1757
01:16:05,327 --> 01:16:06,361
- You were young.
1758
01:16:06,361 --> 01:16:06,995
I was young.
1759
01:16:08,263 --> 01:16:09,665
- Still a baby.
1760
01:16:09,665 --> 01:16:11,700
- I remember seeing him
in the voiceover booth,
1761
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:13,535
and he was like,
screaming like he
1762
01:16:13,535 --> 01:16:16,505
was being burned alive.
1763
01:16:16,505 --> 01:16:18,674
Which I guess he was in
the movie.
1764
01:16:18,674 --> 01:16:22,444
And I ran and hid
under a desk?
1765
01:16:22,444 --> 01:16:24,513
- Yeah, you ran, no
ran out of the thing
1766
01:16:24,513 --> 01:16:26,448
into the parking lot.
1767
01:16:26,448 --> 01:16:28,750
- You start screaming
and crying.
1768
01:16:28,750 --> 01:16:32,788
You run back upstairs
into your bedroom,
1769
01:16:32,788 --> 01:16:36,892
and hopped on your bed
crying hysterically.
1770
01:16:36,892 --> 01:16:40,562
Telling everybody that you
weren't gonna go downstairs,
1771
01:16:40,562 --> 01:16:42,297
because the "bad
people" came.
1772
01:16:42,297 --> 01:16:44,433
The bad people were here.
1773
01:16:44,433 --> 01:16:47,402
And I look and
there's Tiffany
1774
01:16:47,402 --> 01:16:50,606
and Chucky sitting
on our coach.
1775
01:16:50,606 --> 01:16:52,374
- And poor little
thing came in
1776
01:16:52,374 --> 01:16:54,176
and heard her
daddy dying.
1777
01:16:54,176 --> 01:16:55,577
I did.
1778
01:16:55,577 --> 01:16:58,347
- Being burned to
death, and freaked out.
1779
01:17:02,918 --> 01:17:06,488
- I was so mad at him for
leaving the dolls out.
1780
01:17:06,488 --> 01:17:08,690
'Cause you were just
absolutely traumatized.
1781
01:17:08,690 --> 01:17:11,693
I've been in a theater
and watched my dad
1782
01:17:11,693 --> 01:17:13,762
watched his head explode
in a microwave,
1783
01:17:13,762 --> 01:17:15,564
or whatever, over
and over again.
1784
01:17:15,564 --> 01:17:17,833
And I don't like it.
1785
01:17:17,833 --> 01:17:19,768
And I still don't like
to watch him die.
1786
01:17:19,768 --> 01:17:20,769
I feel like
that something,
1787
01:17:20,769 --> 01:17:22,604
'cause my dad dies in
one of the movies.
1788
01:17:22,604 --> 01:17:24,606
Yeah, that's right.
1789
01:17:24,606 --> 01:17:25,674
So I
feel like we have
1790
01:17:25,674 --> 01:17:27,542
this mutual understanding
of what it's like
1791
01:17:27,542 --> 01:17:28,744
to watch our parents die.
1792
01:17:28,744 --> 01:17:31,613
- To watch our
parents die, yeah.
1793
01:17:31,613 --> 01:17:35,550
I love the scene where your
dad gets decapitated,
1794
01:17:35,550 --> 01:17:37,719
in "Seed of Chucky,"
that was hilarious.
1795
01:17:37,719 --> 01:17:40,689
But I also loved the
doll's reaction to it.
1796
01:17:40,689 --> 01:17:43,358
You know, they get
spattered by his blood
1797
01:17:43,358 --> 01:17:45,193
and they're all
turned on.
1798
01:17:46,528 --> 01:17:47,663
I watched that
1799
01:17:47,663 --> 01:17:48,697
when I was eight by
the way.
1800
01:17:48,697 --> 01:17:50,632
- Did that
traumatize you?
1801
01:17:50,632 --> 01:17:52,701
Yes.
1802
01:17:52,701 --> 01:17:54,670
- But didn't he show you
the head and you know,
1803
01:17:54,670 --> 01:17:56,171
just like, "See
this is like?"
1804
01:17:56,171 --> 01:17:57,439
No.
1805
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,842
And my only knowledge
of you growing up
1806
01:18:00,842 --> 01:18:03,445
was that you kissed my
dad's decapitated head.
1807
01:18:03,445 --> 01:18:05,781
- I know, isn't that
gross? That's so gross.
1808
01:18:05,781 --> 01:18:08,450
I would have kissed his
regular head, too.
1809
01:18:08,450 --> 01:18:09,685
Due to these
types of movies filming
1810
01:18:09,685 --> 01:18:12,421
so far away, they basically
formed second families
1811
01:18:12,421 --> 01:18:13,588
while away from
their real ones.
1812
01:18:13,588 --> 01:18:15,624
- Not only do we
play with dolls,
1813
01:18:15,624 --> 01:18:17,893
but we made our living
playing with dolls.
1814
01:18:17,893 --> 01:18:19,728
So it always felt
there was a piece missing,
1815
01:18:19,728 --> 01:18:22,497
and I had to meet
my second family.
1816
01:18:22,497 --> 01:18:24,332
Like it wasn't complete
until I met everybody.
1817
01:18:24,332 --> 01:18:25,834
- And feel this.
1818
01:18:26,668 --> 01:18:28,336
I mean you've grown up
with this stuff but-
1819
01:18:28,336 --> 01:18:29,471
- Oh wow.
- It's nothing.
1820
01:18:29,471 --> 01:18:32,441
- It's light.
- it's a fake ax.
1821
01:18:32,441 --> 01:18:33,542
- For me it's
kind of cool
1822
01:18:33,542 --> 01:18:34,676
that you're doing
this documentary,
1823
01:18:34,676 --> 01:18:38,747
because for me I have my two
families that get to meet.
1824
01:18:38,747 --> 01:18:40,382
'Cause these are the
people I go to work
1825
01:18:40,382 --> 01:18:41,583
with and have fun with,
1826
01:18:41,583 --> 01:18:44,586
and think of it as
extended family.
1827
01:18:44,586 --> 01:18:47,656
And for you guys to all
meet up and actually make
1828
01:18:47,656 --> 01:18:50,192
that family unit, and that
family dynamic larger,
1829
01:18:50,192 --> 01:18:51,426
is kind of cool.
1830
01:18:51,426 --> 01:18:54,396
- You know, all of us
were like a family.
1831
01:18:54,396 --> 01:18:56,565
I would say a mostly
functional family,
1832
01:18:56,565 --> 01:18:58,667
occasionally
dysfunctional as all.
1833
01:18:58,667 --> 01:19:00,502
- You know, you work
really long hours,
1834
01:19:00,502 --> 01:19:02,604
and it feels like camp.
1835
01:19:02,604 --> 01:19:05,440
- Going off to Chucky camp,
as my wife and I call it.
1836
01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:07,509
- You can't do
anything else
1837
01:19:07,509 --> 01:19:09,678
besides work with these
people and make this thing.
1838
01:19:09,678 --> 01:19:12,714
- Given that the films
are in Canada, or Romania,
1839
01:19:12,714 --> 01:19:14,316
and they're never here, I
definitely don't look
forward
1840
01:19:14,316 --> 01:19:16,451
to the time gone.
1841
01:19:16,451 --> 01:19:17,919
- Being away from
1842
01:19:19,354 --> 01:19:20,722
home was horrible.
1843
01:19:20,722 --> 01:19:22,591
My wife and I met
when we were 16,
1844
01:19:23,391 --> 01:19:25,761
on an archeological
dig in the Negev Desert
1845
01:19:25,761 --> 01:19:30,365
between Jordan and Israel,
and we're inseparable.
1846
01:19:30,365 --> 01:19:31,500
And I would be
away for two,
1847
01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:33,602
maybe three weeks
at a time,
1848
01:19:33,602 --> 01:19:36,438
then I would fly home for
a weekend and then go back.
1849
01:19:36,438 --> 01:19:38,673
It was very difficult.
1850
01:19:38,673 --> 01:19:40,675
- You're going somewhere
where it's a different time
zone,
1851
01:19:40,675 --> 01:19:43,411
so you're not gonna be
able to be plugged in
1852
01:19:43,411 --> 01:19:45,447
just on the most
basic routine.
1853
01:19:45,447 --> 01:19:46,515
- I mean there was no
Skyping, or anything else,
1854
01:19:46,515 --> 01:19:48,583
so a lot of phone calls.
1855
01:19:48,583 --> 01:19:50,585
- Not much films
in LA these days,
1856
01:19:50,585 --> 01:19:53,622
so you're always
off somewhere.
1857
01:19:53,622 --> 01:19:55,657
- It's a job that
takes you physically
1858
01:19:55,657 --> 01:19:57,726
to different
places a lot.
1859
01:19:57,726 --> 01:19:59,394
And it's really time
consuming when you're
working.
1860
01:19:59,394 --> 01:20:00,595
- I remember they
were off to Romania,
1861
01:20:00,595 --> 01:20:02,597
and then Don told
me afterwards there
1862
01:20:02,597 --> 01:20:05,600
was like terrible
weather and stuff.
1863
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,502
It sounded like a
real adventure.
1864
01:20:07,502 --> 01:20:09,738
And that's the bad thing
about doing a voice
1865
01:20:09,738 --> 01:20:11,773
is you just miss all
that, you know.
1866
01:20:11,773 --> 01:20:13,742
- Sometimes it was
just goddam lonely
1867
01:20:14,643 --> 01:20:17,479
in doing some
of those films.
1868
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,548
I mean, I would be
in this huge room,
1869
01:20:19,548 --> 01:20:20,749
I mean a massive room.
1870
01:20:20,749 --> 01:20:21,483
They could put an
orchestra in there.
1871
01:20:21,483 --> 01:20:23,451
And I had a mic.
1872
01:20:23,451 --> 01:20:24,586
And everybody
was sitting in
1873
01:20:24,586 --> 01:20:26,621
the sound booth
way far away.
1874
01:20:26,621 --> 01:20:28,390
- 'Cause everyone
just thinks,
1875
01:20:28,390 --> 01:20:30,458
oh you spent all
that time together.
1876
01:20:30,458 --> 01:20:32,727
No, I was just in
a box with a mic.
1877
01:20:32,727 --> 01:20:35,764
- And I just did dialogue
by myself all day.
1878
01:20:35,764 --> 01:20:38,700
And thank god when
Jennifer finally came.
1879
01:20:38,700 --> 01:20:40,368
- Well, I suppose it's
sort of changed for me
1880
01:20:40,368 --> 01:20:41,403
since I've had a family.
1881
01:20:42,804 --> 01:20:46,575
You know, that is now part of
the decision making process.
1882
01:20:46,575 --> 01:20:48,543
- The first Chucky,
the kids were somewhere
1883
01:20:48,543 --> 01:20:51,746
between five and eight,
the two of them.
1884
01:20:51,746 --> 01:20:54,516
And it was difficult, it
was difficult for everybody.
1885
01:20:54,516 --> 01:20:56,651
'Cause I was a father
that until that point
1886
01:20:56,651 --> 01:20:58,520
had been there
for everything.
1887
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,489
- It doesn't bode well
as far as, you know,
1888
01:21:01,489 --> 01:21:03,625
being able to do
your job well,
1889
01:21:03,625 --> 01:21:05,694
and be a parent well
at the same time.
1890
01:21:05,694 --> 01:21:08,396
One kind of gets put
by the wayside.
1891
01:21:08,396 --> 01:21:09,764
- And you work a
15 or 17 hour day,
1892
01:21:09,764 --> 01:21:12,500
and then you go home and
you crash for a few hours,
1893
01:21:12,500 --> 01:21:13,501
and then you have to come
back and do it again.
1894
01:21:13,501 --> 01:21:14,669
- But it's not a
nine to five.
1895
01:21:14,669 --> 01:21:17,672
It is a whatever time we
would like you to come in,
1896
01:21:17,672 --> 01:21:19,507
and whatever time we
would like you to leave.
1897
01:21:19,507 --> 01:21:20,742
- When you're filming a
movie, you're going to war.
1898
01:21:20,742 --> 01:21:22,644
I don't want to make
it sound like that,
1899
01:21:22,644 --> 01:21:23,545
'cause you're not
killing people,
1900
01:21:23,545 --> 01:21:24,813
but you're killing
yourself.
1901
01:21:24,813 --> 01:21:29,150
- It's just not normal in
the way that it normally is.
1902
01:21:29,851 --> 01:21:32,387
I mean people go to
work and they come home,
1903
01:21:32,387 --> 01:21:33,455
and then they're home.
1904
01:21:33,455 --> 01:21:34,589
- So the time
that you put,
1905
01:21:34,589 --> 01:21:36,725
when I did "Sextupets"
I worked 22 hour days.
1906
01:21:36,725 --> 01:21:39,761
Literally, out of a
70, 65-day shoot.
1907
01:21:39,761 --> 01:21:44,532
I was there probably 22
hours at least 50 times.
1908
01:21:44,532 --> 01:21:46,401
- I was working from
8:00 in the morning
1909
01:21:46,401 --> 01:21:49,671
'til 11:00 at night,
five days a week.
1910
01:21:49,671 --> 01:21:51,473
And then also working
on the weekends
1911
01:21:51,473 --> 01:21:53,508
when I could have time.
1912
01:21:53,508 --> 01:21:55,744
And I had a newborn
baby at home.
1913
01:21:55,744 --> 01:21:58,280
You know when I
came home it was very late.
1914
01:21:58,280 --> 01:21:59,648
I had to get up early.
1915
01:21:59,648 --> 01:22:00,749
Or you'd
just be gone for-
1916
01:22:00,749 --> 01:22:05,654
- Or I'd be gone for
weeks, or months.
1917
01:22:05,654 --> 01:22:08,757
- Every single person is
dedicating their lives
1918
01:22:08,757 --> 01:22:12,661
for the next two weeks,
seven weeks, or six months.
1919
01:22:12,661 --> 01:22:14,763
- With "Lord of the Rings"
it was a year and a half.
1920
01:22:14,763 --> 01:22:17,365
"Master and Commander"
was six months.
1921
01:22:17,365 --> 01:22:18,533
- Once you're
committed to the film
1922
01:22:18,533 --> 01:22:20,502
you're at their disposal.
1923
01:22:20,502 --> 01:22:22,404
- If they said that
now, I'd be like,
1924
01:22:22,404 --> 01:22:24,572
"Well, can my family
come and visit?
1925
01:22:24,572 --> 01:22:26,374
And how would that work?"
1926
01:22:26,374 --> 01:22:27,442
So it's part of
the process.
1927
01:22:27,442 --> 01:22:29,010
- The second season
of "Phineas"
1928
01:22:30,578 --> 01:22:31,579
I had to really
put my foot down
1929
01:22:31,579 --> 01:22:33,448
about hiring new people,
1930
01:22:33,448 --> 01:22:34,816
and building the
budget of the show,
1931
01:22:34,816 --> 01:22:37,786
because I didn't want to
miss my daughter growing up.
1932
01:22:37,786 --> 01:22:40,355
- But it's the life
that we've chosen,
1933
01:22:40,355 --> 01:22:41,756
you know, it's nomadic.
1934
01:22:41,756 --> 01:22:44,693
- But if I had not had
a kid in the mix,
1935
01:22:44,693 --> 01:22:47,495
I might have continued
to work that hard.
1936
01:22:47,495 --> 01:22:48,563
- You know, that's why
I see why people thank
1937
01:22:48,563 --> 01:22:50,265
their children and
their families
1938
01:22:50,265 --> 01:22:51,433
when they win awards.
1939
01:22:51,433 --> 01:22:53,568
Yeah, I'm able to
provide for guys
1940
01:22:53,568 --> 01:22:55,637
with my passion, and my
art, and my hard work.
1941
01:22:55,637 --> 01:22:57,505
But when you get those
statues its like time
1942
01:22:57,505 --> 01:22:58,740
to sit there and
go, "Thank you.
1943
01:22:58,740 --> 01:23:00,575
Thank you guys for
being understanding.
1944
01:23:00,575 --> 01:23:03,144
'Cause honestly without
you I couldn't do this."
1945
01:23:04,312 --> 01:23:05,647
- It's hard, it's an
interesting question.
1946
01:23:05,647 --> 01:23:06,614
No one's every
asked me that.
1947
01:23:06,614 --> 01:23:10,485
No one's ever cared.
That's so nice.
1948
01:23:10,485 --> 01:23:12,754
I care 'cause
my dad would have to go.
1949
01:23:12,754 --> 01:23:14,789
- Of course, I know right
when you asked that
question,
1950
01:23:14,789 --> 01:23:16,891
I just thought that's such
an interesting perspective.
1951
01:23:16,891 --> 01:23:20,395
My father and I are
basically like best friends.
1952
01:23:20,395 --> 01:23:23,732
Yay!
1953
01:23:23,732 --> 01:23:27,435
- Can I have a share for
your camera? Can we share?
1954
01:23:27,435 --> 01:23:28,503
Take yours.
1955
01:23:30,505 --> 01:23:32,140
- Do it again.
1956
01:23:32,140 --> 01:23:33,341
Hi Daddy.
1957
01:23:34,142 --> 01:23:35,310
- Hey you.
1958
01:23:35,310 --> 01:23:36,444
- I can feel
comfortable talking
1959
01:23:36,444 --> 01:23:37,545
about anything with him.
1960
01:23:37,545 --> 01:23:39,414
He's kind of a rock.
1961
01:23:39,414 --> 01:23:40,915
I admire him a lot.
1962
01:23:43,585 --> 01:23:44,786
- It really sucks
when you're gone
1963
01:23:44,786 --> 01:23:47,422
and it's your kid's birthday
and you can't be there.
1964
01:23:49,824 --> 01:23:51,593
That's the time you want
to be there the most,
1965
01:23:51,593 --> 01:23:53,928
and then you're
stuck, you know,
1966
01:23:55,597 --> 01:23:57,766
in some hotel room
somewhere waiting
1967
01:23:58,767 --> 01:24:02,370
for the alarm to go
off so you can go stick
1968
01:24:02,370 --> 01:24:04,005
a knife in Fiona's leg.
1969
01:24:05,473 --> 01:24:06,875
Those two worlds
don't mix very well.
1970
01:24:08,543 --> 01:24:09,844
I don't know
how to put it.
1971
01:24:11,780 --> 01:24:14,616
As a six,
seven, eight-year-old
1972
01:24:14,616 --> 01:24:17,452
you have your other
half so to speak, leave
1973
01:24:17,452 --> 01:24:19,687
on a plane for
this movie,
1974
01:24:19,687 --> 01:24:21,556
you kind of have like a
little spark taken out of
you.
1975
01:24:21,556 --> 01:24:23,525
- Part of it too is
knowing that you guys
1976
01:24:23,525 --> 01:24:24,592
aren't gonna be
home forever.
1977
01:24:24,592 --> 01:24:26,561
And it's like you
want to get,
1978
01:24:26,561 --> 01:24:28,663
you want to be there
for everything,
1979
01:24:28,663 --> 01:24:32,300
'cause time just
moves so fast.
1980
01:24:32,300 --> 01:24:34,469
- I think he
probably missed out
1981
01:24:34,469 --> 01:24:35,837
on a lot of key
moments that
1982
01:24:36,671 --> 01:24:39,707
we probably both
wish we had.
1983
01:24:39,707 --> 01:24:41,342
- As a parent you feel
like you miss everything.
1984
01:24:41,342 --> 01:24:43,311
I mean, part of the
1985
01:24:43,311 --> 01:24:44,312
fun of being
1986
01:24:45,613 --> 01:24:47,682
a parent is the
family dynamic.
1987
01:24:47,682 --> 01:24:50,552
You know, listening to all
three of you kids laugh,
1988
01:24:50,552 --> 01:24:53,388
to me, is like the
best thing ever.
1989
01:24:54,522 --> 01:24:57,692
So you go away and
you don't have that.
1990
01:24:57,692 --> 01:25:00,595
And then you're
working shitty hours.
1991
01:25:00,595 --> 01:25:02,630
And then it's an eight
hour time difference.
1992
01:25:02,630 --> 01:25:04,566
And you're completely
on your own.
1993
01:25:04,566 --> 01:25:06,634
And it's like you have
to remind yourself
1994
01:25:06,634 --> 01:25:07,602
that you're there
to be able
1995
01:25:07,602 --> 01:25:09,003
to provide for
your family,
1996
01:25:09,003 --> 01:25:11,539
but at the same time it's
taking away from your
family.
1997
01:25:11,539 --> 01:25:12,974
So it just kind
of really sucks.
1998
01:25:14,542 --> 01:25:17,445
I'm sorry. Gosh.
1999
01:25:17,445 --> 01:25:18,480
- There's some
honesty for you.
2000
01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:20,381
- It's so hard to
make any movie.
2001
01:25:20,381 --> 01:25:21,716
Even the worst
movie ever made
2002
01:25:21,716 --> 01:25:24,719
is still hard to make, and
people go through a lot.
2003
01:25:24,719 --> 01:25:27,555
So I think you want to go
through it with somebody
2004
01:25:27,555 --> 01:25:28,523
that's already been
through it with you.
2005
01:25:28,523 --> 01:25:33,328
- That sort of shared
misery sometimes,
2006
01:25:33,328 --> 01:25:35,363
you know, shared
experiences,
2007
01:25:35,363 --> 01:25:37,198
and the ups and
downs of all of it.
2008
01:25:39,300 --> 01:25:40,568
It's nice having someone
else you can relate to
2009
01:25:40,568 --> 01:25:41,903
that you can
hang out with.
2010
01:25:41,903 --> 01:25:45,406
And it's weird, 'cause you'd
go on set, and it's like,
2011
01:25:45,406 --> 01:25:46,674
"Oh, hey Carry
how's it going?"
2012
01:25:46,674 --> 01:25:49,377
And last time you saw
him was five years ago.
2013
01:25:49,377 --> 01:25:50,812
- And they're
like your sister,
2014
01:25:50,812 --> 01:25:52,814
or your brother by the
end of the shoot.
2015
01:25:52,814 --> 01:25:54,315
And then you walk off and
you don't see each other.
2016
01:25:54,315 --> 01:25:55,717
And that's it.
2017
01:25:55,717 --> 01:25:56,684
- And that's it.
- And then you run into them
2018
01:25:56,684 --> 01:25:57,752
like five years later,
and you're like,
2019
01:25:57,752 --> 01:26:00,622
"Oh, god, how are you?
What's going on?"
2020
01:26:00,622 --> 01:26:01,689
- When you have sequels
2021
01:26:01,689 --> 01:26:03,625
and you have the
same characters
2022
01:26:03,625 --> 01:26:05,293
and actors that you're
coming back to,
2023
01:26:05,293 --> 01:26:06,594
it's very sweet.
2024
01:26:06,594 --> 01:26:08,730
I mean there's a real
sweetness to it.
2025
01:26:08,730 --> 01:26:10,632
- It's very weird,
because usually after,
2026
01:26:10,632 --> 01:26:11,599
if you haven't
seen somebody
2027
01:26:11,599 --> 01:26:13,601
for like 10 years
or something,
2028
01:26:13,601 --> 01:26:14,702
you have a lot
to catch up on.
2029
01:26:14,702 --> 01:26:16,905
But because you're
in that environment
2030
01:26:16,905 --> 01:26:19,574
where you're just working
on the movie it's like,
2031
01:26:19,574 --> 01:26:21,676
you just boom, fall
right back into it.
2032
01:26:21,676 --> 01:26:23,278
- So and so's had a
kid, and whatever,
2033
01:26:23,278 --> 01:26:24,846
and you catch up.
2034
01:26:24,846 --> 01:26:27,615
And there is this cool family
dynamic with those shows.
2035
01:26:27,615 --> 01:26:31,586
- It's a real kind of
special sort of life
2036
01:26:31,586 --> 01:26:33,388
that you get to have,
that goes away.
2037
01:26:33,388 --> 01:26:34,389
- That goes away.
2038
01:26:34,389 --> 01:26:35,857
- It's really sad to
2039
01:26:37,258 --> 01:26:39,594
pack everything up at
the end of the show,
2040
01:26:39,594 --> 01:26:41,596
and leave all these
guys and gals behind.
2041
01:26:41,596 --> 01:26:43,831
- And when we
wrap the show,
2042
01:26:43,831 --> 01:26:46,568
and the puppeteers and
everybody were saying
goodbye,
2043
01:26:46,568 --> 01:26:50,538
Don and Fiona
actually drove out
2044
01:26:50,538 --> 01:26:52,373
and hung out with us
for a couple of hours,
2045
01:26:52,373 --> 01:26:53,408
and said goodbye
to everybody.
2046
01:26:53,408 --> 01:26:55,343
- And he gave a
goodbye speech.
2047
01:26:58,413 --> 01:26:59,414
And just like,
I don't know.
2048
01:26:59,414 --> 01:27:00,448
It sounds corny
to talk about,
2049
01:27:00,448 --> 01:27:01,549
but just everybody
in the room,
2050
01:27:01,549 --> 01:27:02,650
like there were a
few people crying,
2051
01:27:02,650 --> 01:27:04,719
and they gave them
all these gifts.
2052
01:27:04,719 --> 01:27:06,654
- But Don had to get up at
like 5:00 in the morning
2053
01:27:06,654 --> 01:27:08,756
to go do the drone
shot the next day.
2054
01:27:08,756 --> 01:27:11,392
We were all wrapped and
we were gonna leave.
2055
01:27:11,392 --> 01:27:12,694
So he's like,
"I'm coming out."
2056
01:27:12,694 --> 01:27:15,563
And then Fiona's like,
"I'm coming with Don."
2057
01:27:15,563 --> 01:27:18,700
- And then he thanked me,
and then I started crying
2058
01:27:18,700 --> 01:27:20,635
- People don't
realize how seldom
2059
01:27:20,635 --> 01:27:23,538
you take away real
friends from projects.
2060
01:27:23,538 --> 01:27:26,808
- Don Mancini is maybe
my closest friend.
2061
01:27:26,808 --> 01:27:30,812
- Basically, my best friend
now, which is so weird.
2062
01:27:30,812 --> 01:27:32,814
She's also young enough
to be my daughter,
2063
01:27:32,814 --> 01:27:35,850
which makes it weirder
in a way.
2064
01:27:35,850 --> 01:27:37,619
- He liked helped me
through my mother's death.
2065
01:27:37,619 --> 01:27:39,821
He was with me when I
found out she died.
2066
01:27:40,688 --> 01:27:43,591
He like, just feels
like my family.
2067
01:27:43,591 --> 01:27:44,659
- We've been through
a lot together.
2068
01:27:44,659 --> 01:27:46,494
He was at both of our
daughter's bat mitzvahs.
2069
01:27:46,494 --> 01:27:48,496
He was at our
daughter's wedding.
2070
01:27:48,496 --> 01:27:52,600
With me, with the
loss of his parents.
2071
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:55,670
You know, we've been through
a lot of stuff together.
2072
01:27:55,670 --> 01:27:58,573
- I've always looked up to
him since I was eight years
old.
2073
01:27:58,573 --> 01:28:00,842
And then we didn't talk
for many, many years
2074
01:28:00,842 --> 01:28:03,645
through my high school
times and everything.
2075
01:28:03,645 --> 01:28:05,513
And then I guess
probably late in my 20s
2076
01:28:05,513 --> 01:28:07,548
is when we reconnected.
2077
01:28:07,548 --> 01:28:08,716
- We have a lot
in common.
2078
01:28:08,716 --> 01:28:12,253
We have very similar
taste in music,
2079
01:28:12,253 --> 01:28:13,521
and movies, obviously.
2080
01:28:13,521 --> 01:28:14,656
So we just sort
of reconnected.
2081
01:28:14,656 --> 01:28:17,525
And it's like, oh
he's a person now.
2082
01:28:17,525 --> 01:28:18,726
- And Alex Vincent
is a close friend.
2083
01:28:18,726 --> 01:28:20,862
And Don has always
been a close friend.
2084
01:28:20,862 --> 01:28:22,797
We never lost touch in
the intervening years
2085
01:28:22,797 --> 01:28:26,167
between "Chucky 2" and
"Cult" when I came back.
2086
01:28:27,368 --> 01:28:28,569
- I am her
favorite director.
2087
01:28:28,569 --> 01:28:30,271
- He's my favorite
director ever.
2088
01:28:30,271 --> 01:28:30,972
- Jennifer's awesome.
2089
01:28:33,608 --> 01:28:36,944
She's one of the funniest
people you will ever meet.
2090
01:28:36,944 --> 01:28:40,448
- And I'm a little
intimidated by her,
honestly.
2091
01:28:40,448 --> 01:28:42,817
She does nothing to
make me feel that,
2092
01:28:42,817 --> 01:28:47,588
but she's just this bigger
than life character.
2093
01:28:47,588 --> 01:28:49,724
- David Kirschner, I adore
him, he's a sweetheart.
2094
01:28:49,724 --> 01:28:51,659
On every single film
that I've been on
2095
01:28:51,659 --> 01:28:54,462
he has been like
a very calm,
2096
01:28:54,462 --> 01:28:56,497
sort of avuncular
presence.
2097
01:28:56,497 --> 01:28:57,732
- It would been bizarre
for me to stay close
2098
01:28:57,732 --> 01:28:59,534
with him then, like
24-years-old calling,
2099
01:28:59,534 --> 01:29:01,302
"Hi Alex's mom,
it's Christine,
2100
01:29:01,302 --> 01:29:02,470
can I talk to Alex?"
2101
01:29:02,470 --> 01:29:04,972
That would have
been deviant.
2102
01:29:05,740 --> 01:29:07,375
Creepy, a little
creepy, yeah.
2103
01:29:07,375 --> 01:29:08,543
So that didn't happen.
2104
01:29:08,543 --> 01:29:09,677
- You know, we
only reconnected
2105
01:29:09,677 --> 01:29:11,579
maybe six years ago or
something like that.
2106
01:29:11,579 --> 01:29:13,815
But we talk very often.
2107
01:29:13,815 --> 01:29:15,583
- I really love the person
Alex has grown into being.
2108
01:29:15,583 --> 01:29:17,552
- No, I think
it's really cool
2109
01:29:17,552 --> 01:29:19,587
how Brad and Fiona
have a chance
2110
01:29:19,587 --> 01:29:21,589
to actually share
something as intimate
2111
01:29:21,589 --> 01:29:23,658
as this incredible
franchise.
2112
01:29:23,658 --> 01:29:27,362
- Fiona is like really
truly, a family operation
2113
01:29:27,362 --> 01:29:29,364
that she is the
daughter of the man
2114
01:29:29,364 --> 01:29:30,665
who's voiced Chucky
for 30 years.
2115
01:29:30,665 --> 01:29:33,501
- As a father that
has daughters,
2116
01:29:33,501 --> 01:29:36,771
it touches me
that Fiona is,
2117
01:29:36,771 --> 01:29:39,173
she's truly the
"Seed of Chucky."
2118
01:29:41,542 --> 01:29:43,644
- Also, now,
it's more of me
2119
01:29:43,644 --> 01:29:44,812
just being very
proud of her,
2120
01:29:44,812 --> 01:29:48,783
because she's got her
feet, and doesn't need me.
2121
01:29:49,450 --> 01:29:51,519
Basically, she-
2122
01:29:51,519 --> 01:29:52,687
- I still need
you.
2123
01:29:52,687 --> 01:29:55,356
- I mean, she might
call me once in awhile.
2124
01:29:55,356 --> 01:29:57,892
And you know, I
very rarely,
2125
01:29:57,892 --> 01:30:01,262
but every once in awhile
I'll volunteer some things
2126
01:30:01,262 --> 01:30:02,630
based on what I see.
2127
01:30:04,232 --> 01:30:06,067
But for the most part
I love what I see.
2128
01:30:07,502 --> 01:30:09,170
Oh,
thanks, Dad.
2129
01:30:11,272 --> 01:30:13,241
- I'm really impressed.
2130
01:30:13,241 --> 01:30:14,575
- Thanks, Daddy.
2131
01:30:14,575 --> 01:30:17,645
- And we all do have
a lot of respect
2132
01:30:17,645 --> 01:30:19,781
and admiration
for each other.
2133
01:30:19,781 --> 01:30:21,549
- We all really enjoy
each other's company,
2134
01:30:21,549 --> 01:30:22,583
and we all have fun.
2135
01:30:22,583 --> 01:30:23,718
And it's cool to be able
2136
01:30:23,718 --> 01:30:25,653
to work with people
that you like.
2137
01:30:25,653 --> 01:30:27,555
- It's something
that I'm so proud of
2138
01:30:27,555 --> 01:30:29,490
that that's a part
of my career.
2139
01:30:29,490 --> 01:30:31,559
I don't think my life
would be different.
2140
01:30:31,559 --> 01:30:33,828
It would not have
been as enriched
2141
01:30:33,828 --> 01:30:38,266
if Don Mancini or Tony
Gardner weren't part of it.
2142
01:30:38,266 --> 01:30:39,734
They're dear,
dear friends
2143
01:30:39,734 --> 01:30:42,804
that I have deep
conversations with, and love
that.
2144
01:30:42,804 --> 01:30:46,607
- Chucky has like given me
a career, and an identity.
2145
01:30:46,607 --> 01:30:49,377
- Chucky was the first
thing that I did
2146
01:30:49,377 --> 01:30:51,312
that had a fan base.
2147
01:30:51,312 --> 01:30:53,181
And that got me-
2148
01:30:53,181 --> 01:30:53,948
- Noticed.
2149
01:30:53,948 --> 01:30:55,616
- Yeah, it got
me a career.
2150
01:30:55,616 --> 01:30:57,585
- One of the best gifts
to have in life,
2151
01:30:57,585 --> 01:30:59,887
particularly when you get
older, you'll find out,
2152
01:30:59,887 --> 01:31:04,592
is that it's just nice for
people to listen to you.
2153
01:31:04,592 --> 01:31:06,527
I've been doing
this a long time.
2154
01:31:06,527 --> 01:31:07,495
I've been doing this
for 30 years now.
2155
01:31:07,495 --> 01:31:10,665
So that like people
still care about it,
2156
01:31:10,665 --> 01:31:12,600
and want to talk to me
about it, that's awesome.
2157
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,335
- See this is the
reason why going into
2158
01:31:14,335 --> 01:31:15,536
the seventh Chucky film,
2159
01:31:15,536 --> 01:31:17,772
that Chucky has a
huge fan base.
2160
01:31:17,772 --> 01:31:22,543
- The cult fan base of Chucky
is very multi-faceted.
2161
01:31:22,543 --> 01:31:26,547
So you've got like the sort
of the typical young guys
2162
01:31:26,547 --> 01:31:28,349
who love horror,
and they love
2163
01:31:28,349 --> 01:31:30,718
to see guts and
gore, and T&A.
2164
01:31:30,718 --> 01:31:34,355
- And it's not like a
lot of horror films
2165
01:31:34,355 --> 01:31:35,690
where every movie
is basically
2166
01:31:35,690 --> 01:31:37,625
the same movie
that came before.
2167
01:31:37,625 --> 01:31:40,495
- And then you've got young
women who are like tend
2168
01:31:40,495 --> 01:31:42,763
to be a little more
sensitive than that.
2169
01:31:42,763 --> 01:31:46,868
And their interests in it
tend to be a little bit
different.
2170
01:31:46,868 --> 01:31:49,537
- Every movie that Don does
there's like a new twist.
2171
01:31:49,537 --> 01:31:50,805
- People really love it.
2172
01:31:50,805 --> 01:31:52,573
People come with their
little doll and all that.
2173
01:31:52,573 --> 01:31:53,574
"Could you sign that?"
2174
01:31:53,574 --> 01:31:54,442
Their Glen doll?
2175
01:31:54,442 --> 01:31:55,376
- Yeah.
2176
01:31:55,376 --> 01:31:57,278
- Glen?
2177
01:31:57,278 --> 01:31:59,380
- Guess again, Daddy?
2178
01:31:59,380 --> 01:32:00,781
- Horror's always
been counterculture.
2179
01:32:00,781 --> 01:32:02,483
I think that that makes
the people who are fans
2180
01:32:02,483 --> 01:32:04,452
of it band together.
2181
01:32:04,452 --> 01:32:05,653
- I don't think there's
any other genre
2182
01:32:05,653 --> 01:32:07,588
that has a fan
base like horror.
2183
01:32:07,588 --> 01:32:10,558
- Horror fans are,
and I include myself
2184
01:32:10,558 --> 01:32:13,361
in this category,
very passionate.
2185
01:32:13,361 --> 01:32:15,696
But also very obsessed,
2186
01:32:15,696 --> 01:32:17,598
just like very obsessed
with the films.
2187
01:32:17,598 --> 01:32:19,467
- And the fans always
know so much about it.
2188
01:32:19,467 --> 01:32:20,601
They're well-versed,
you know,
2189
01:32:20,601 --> 01:32:22,603
they're complete
fanatics.
2190
01:32:22,603 --> 01:32:27,742
- They are devoted,
loving, kind, non-violent,
2191
01:32:27,742 --> 01:32:31,212
people who
appreciate what you have
created
2192
01:32:31,212 --> 01:32:32,513
and given them.
2193
01:32:32,513 --> 01:32:35,516
- It's celebrated. We get
to celebrate it often.
2194
01:32:35,516 --> 01:32:37,618
You know, I do conventions
with Christine Elise.
2195
01:32:37,618 --> 01:32:39,353
- I think one of the
things I'm most entertained
2196
01:32:39,353 --> 01:32:40,555
about at conventions
is it's
2197
01:32:40,555 --> 01:32:42,857
a gigantic collection
of people.
2198
01:32:42,857 --> 01:32:45,927
Table after table,
and thousands of people,
2199
01:32:45,927 --> 01:32:49,830
- Who are in society
generally looked at as
outsiders.
2200
01:32:49,830 --> 01:32:51,632
They tend to be wearing
black, black T shirt.
2201
01:32:51,632 --> 01:32:53,668
- And they look
like they should be
2202
01:32:53,668 --> 01:32:56,771
in a death metal
band, and screaming
2203
01:32:56,771 --> 01:33:00,374
and Wielding an ax, and
throwing shit at people.
2204
01:33:00,374 --> 01:33:01,576
- But they're, they
seem to be like
2205
01:33:01,576 --> 01:33:03,611
the bizarrely, the
most wholesome.
2206
01:33:03,611 --> 01:33:05,780
- Usually, they're the most
honestly mild-mannered.
2207
01:33:05,780 --> 01:33:09,850
And it's like they're
actually really normal
people.
2208
01:33:09,850 --> 01:33:13,688
Not all horror fans shop at
Hot Topic. No disrespect.
2209
01:33:13,688 --> 01:33:16,557
Not all of us do that.
Only sometimes.
2210
01:33:16,557 --> 01:33:18,826
- Jennifer Tilly
and I did Comicon.
2211
01:33:18,826 --> 01:33:22,330
And there were people coming
up for autographs
afterwards,
2212
01:33:22,330 --> 01:33:23,898
pushing babies
in strollers.
2213
01:33:23,898 --> 01:33:26,601
And they had like Chucky or
Tiffany tattooed on them.
2214
01:33:26,601 --> 01:33:29,537
It's like, wow these
people are really into it.
2215
01:33:29,537 --> 01:33:31,439
- All the boys
have tattoos.
2216
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:33,374
All the girls are big
girls, they're tough,
2217
01:33:33,374 --> 01:33:34,842
they're kick ass,
those girls.
2218
01:33:34,842 --> 01:33:37,244
And they always have a
great sense of humor.
2219
01:33:37,244 --> 01:33:38,579
I love the horror fans.
2220
01:33:38,579 --> 01:33:41,549
- I get so many letters,
and like drawings.
2221
01:33:41,549 --> 01:33:43,751
- Comicon is
great for us.
2222
01:33:43,751 --> 01:33:47,722
For the niche parts
of entertainment
2223
01:33:47,722 --> 01:33:50,391
it's this great place where
we get to be sort of thought
of.
2224
01:33:50,391 --> 01:33:51,726
- But they were
so polite,
2225
01:33:51,726 --> 01:33:54,228
and had such a genuine
appreciation for it,
2226
01:33:54,228 --> 01:33:55,696
and such a love for it.
2227
01:33:55,696 --> 01:33:58,799
- Horror's so cool
because it is a genre,
2228
01:33:58,799 --> 01:34:01,602
where the below the line
people get appreciation.
2229
01:34:01,602 --> 01:34:03,471
- I love every single
person I've met
2230
01:34:03,471 --> 01:34:04,772
at a convention,
for real.
2231
01:34:04,772 --> 01:34:10,378
They are just excited,
joyous, and giving.
2232
01:34:10,378 --> 01:34:11,579
- I think it's great
to just come here,
2233
01:34:11,579 --> 01:34:13,481
and be surrounded by
people who love horror.
2234
01:34:13,481 --> 01:34:14,782
Like at any horror
convention,
2235
01:34:14,782 --> 01:34:17,184
it's just really cool
to find more and more
2236
01:34:17,184 --> 01:34:18,352
of these out here.
2237
01:34:18,352 --> 01:34:19,687
And to see more
and more people
2238
01:34:19,687 --> 01:34:21,689
from all different regions
of the United States,
2239
01:34:21,689 --> 01:34:24,558
and all over the world coming
to celebrate this genre.
2240
01:34:24,558 --> 01:34:27,294
- It's wonderful to see that
kind of fan base support
2241
01:34:27,294 --> 01:34:28,396
for the movies,
in person.
2242
01:34:28,396 --> 01:34:29,530
- I love being here, man.
2243
01:34:29,530 --> 01:34:31,365
I love being
surrounded by this.
2244
01:34:31,365 --> 01:34:32,833
It's my favorite
place to be.
2245
01:34:32,833 --> 01:34:35,503
- They're always great
about meeting their fans.
2246
01:34:35,503 --> 01:34:37,304
Don Mancini
always makes time
2247
01:34:37,304 --> 01:34:38,639
to sign every autograph.
2248
01:34:38,639 --> 01:34:40,508
- And so to meet
them in person,
2249
01:34:40,508 --> 01:34:41,742
and just get to
talk to them,
2250
01:34:41,742 --> 01:34:43,644
even if it's just
for a few minutes
2251
01:34:43,644 --> 01:34:46,380
about those experiences,
I really appreciate that.
2252
01:34:46,380 --> 01:34:47,648
- Story telling is
about communication,
2253
01:34:47,648 --> 01:34:49,717
and it relies on
both parties,
2254
01:34:49,717 --> 01:34:52,586
the story teller and
the person who's hearing
2255
01:34:52,586 --> 01:34:54,288
the story and
responding to it.
2256
01:34:59,260 --> 01:35:00,728
- Any movie is a
dialogue in a way.
2257
01:35:00,728 --> 01:35:03,664
And I think that's
increasing true
2258
01:35:03,664 --> 01:35:05,433
in the world of
social media.
2259
01:35:05,433 --> 01:35:06,734
- Internet has
come along,
2260
01:35:06,734 --> 01:35:10,705
and everybody can share
photos and cross analyze,
2261
01:35:10,705 --> 01:35:12,773
what he looked like in
this film versus that film?
2262
01:35:12,773 --> 01:35:14,508
And a lot people have
really good opinions,
2263
01:35:14,508 --> 01:35:15,776
and really smart ones.
2264
01:35:15,776 --> 01:35:18,612
And I think the fan
base is something
2265
01:35:18,612 --> 01:35:21,582
that's become rather
amazing in a way.
2266
01:35:21,582 --> 01:35:24,518
- You get like
feedback from fans
2267
01:35:24,518 --> 01:35:26,687
and people who watch
movies, way more quickly,
2268
01:35:26,687 --> 01:35:29,390
and more consistently
than you ever did.
2269
01:35:29,390 --> 01:35:30,591
It's just immediate.
2270
01:35:30,591 --> 01:35:33,527
- My experience with
fan conventions
2271
01:35:33,527 --> 01:35:35,362
is diametrically opposed
to my experience
2272
01:35:35,362 --> 01:35:37,698
with fans online.
2273
01:35:37,698 --> 01:35:40,835
Fans online tend to be, I
mean, half of them are
lovely,
2274
01:35:40,835 --> 01:35:44,572
and effusive and great and
curious, and wonderful.
2275
01:35:44,572 --> 01:35:47,508
- And if they're unhappy
you hear it right away.
2276
01:35:47,508 --> 01:35:49,543
- And another half
are incredibly mean,
2277
01:35:49,543 --> 01:35:52,379
and vindictive and
scary even sometimes.
2278
01:35:52,379 --> 01:35:53,714
Nobody ever is
in real life.
2279
01:35:53,714 --> 01:35:56,250
- We're such a large
group of people
2280
01:35:56,250 --> 01:35:58,452
to be invested in a story
2281
01:35:58,452 --> 01:36:00,521
that has been told
for over 30 years.
2282
01:36:00,521 --> 01:36:02,423
To be a part of that
is truly special.
2283
01:36:02,423 --> 01:36:03,657
- To be a part
of something
2284
01:36:03,657 --> 01:36:07,628
that so many people
love is really surreal.
2285
01:36:07,628 --> 01:36:08,729
- Every new Chucky
installment they're like,
2286
01:36:08,729 --> 01:36:10,698
"Oh my god, what's
gonna happen?"
2287
01:36:10,698 --> 01:36:13,467
Because they really see
Chucky as a real person.
2288
01:36:13,467 --> 01:36:15,369
- Whatever Chucky
represents to people
2289
01:36:15,369 --> 01:36:18,672
is real, and legitimate.
2290
01:36:18,672 --> 01:36:22,376
And there's like passion
for the character.
2291
01:36:22,376 --> 01:36:23,711
It just feels like
this weird gift
2292
01:36:23,711 --> 01:36:25,579
that I get to be
involved in it.
2293
01:36:25,579 --> 01:36:27,715
- It's an important
chapter of my life
2294
01:36:27,715 --> 01:36:31,552
that thankfully, hasn't
ended in 30 years.
2295
01:36:31,552 --> 01:36:33,420
I don't have any other
project like that.
2296
01:36:33,420 --> 01:36:35,422
I don't think
anybody else does.
2297
01:36:35,422 --> 01:36:36,891
- It's a blessing,
definitely.
2298
01:36:37,725 --> 01:36:39,426
As my grandmother
used to always say
2299
01:36:39,426 --> 01:36:41,695
about Chucky, "He's
such a bitch."
2300
01:36:41,695 --> 01:36:44,598
But he's a bitch hat
keeps on giving.
2301
01:36:44,598 --> 01:36:45,633
Do you
think of Chucky
2302
01:36:45,633 --> 01:36:47,434
as part of your
own family?
2303
01:36:47,434 --> 01:36:48,702
Of course,
I do think of Chucky
2304
01:36:48,702 --> 01:36:52,573
as family he's
mine, he's mine.
2305
01:36:52,573 --> 01:36:54,408
Although Tony will
say, "He's mine."
2306
01:36:54,408 --> 01:36:56,443
And David Kirschner
will say, "He's mine."
2307
01:36:56,443 --> 01:36:58,546
'Cause success has
many fathers.
2308
01:36:58,546 --> 01:37:02,349
- We joke about that,
that he's our third child.
2309
01:37:02,349 --> 01:37:04,852
- I'm proud to have
been his papa.
2310
01:37:04,852 --> 01:37:08,489
- I think of Chucky as my
little demented brother.
2311
01:37:08,489 --> 01:37:10,624
It's true when I
see him sometimes,
2312
01:37:10,624 --> 01:37:12,693
you know, I feel
close to him.
2313
01:37:12,693 --> 01:37:14,528
- No, I don't feel like
he's a little brother.
2314
01:37:14,528 --> 01:37:16,630
I feel like
maybe he's like
2315
01:37:16,630 --> 01:37:19,099
a dog that really lived
a really long time.
2316
01:37:21,735 --> 01:37:23,637
That you've had your
whole life, you love him,
2317
01:37:23,637 --> 01:37:27,474
but he shits on your
floor.
2318
01:37:27,474 --> 01:37:28,742
- I don't think of
Chucky as a kid.
2319
01:37:28,742 --> 01:37:32,513
I think of Chucky as
an employer sometimes
2320
01:37:32,513 --> 01:37:33,814
in a weird way.
2321
01:37:34,615 --> 01:37:36,617
And then he's a
family member.
2322
01:37:36,617 --> 01:37:39,019
- Our little boy, is what
we always say in this house.
2323
01:37:41,755 --> 01:37:43,691
is what you were
trying to say, right?
2324
01:37:43,691 --> 01:37:45,759
- There you go. You
ratted me out.
2325
01:37:45,759 --> 01:37:48,796
and we
got it on video.
2326
01:37:51,599 --> 01:37:53,868
Tiffany's my
favorite.
2327
01:37:57,004 --> 01:38:00,407
I think being part of
the Chucky family,
2328
01:38:00,407 --> 01:38:02,543
there's just somebody
who truly gets you,
2329
01:38:02,543 --> 01:38:04,545
because not every
other daughter,
2330
01:38:04,545 --> 01:38:07,314
or father or person
has grown up
2331
01:38:07,314 --> 01:38:08,549
in the same environment.
2332
01:38:08,549 --> 01:38:10,484
I feel so connected
to everybody.
2333
01:38:10,484 --> 01:38:11,719
I like these
relationships,
2334
01:38:11,719 --> 01:38:14,688
and I hope they grow
more over the years.
2335
01:38:14,688 --> 01:38:17,892
- Now, we really will
be the perfect family.
2336
01:38:22,730 --> 01:38:25,399
- I think these relationships
have definitely more
2337
01:38:25,399 --> 01:38:27,668
than grown over the
past few years.
2338
01:38:27,668 --> 01:38:30,471
- It's funny 'cause I don't
think any of us expected
2339
01:38:30,471 --> 01:38:34,675
it to continue on,
let alone gather
2340
01:38:34,675 --> 01:38:36,610
a larger family
in the process
2341
01:38:36,610 --> 01:38:38,412
as it keeps
moving forward.
2342
01:38:38,412 --> 01:38:40,814
And now we're
headed to Canada.
2343
01:38:40,814 --> 01:38:44,652
We're going to Toronto to
shoot a TV series called
"Chucky."
2344
01:38:44,652 --> 01:38:47,621
- I am coming to you from the
set of the "Chucky" series.
2345
01:38:47,621 --> 01:38:49,790
Which we are filming
here in Toronto, Ontario.
2346
01:38:49,790 --> 01:38:52,693
Who would have thought, 25
years ago when he talked me
2347
01:38:52,693 --> 01:38:55,195
into playing this part,
that I would still be
2348
01:38:55,195 --> 01:38:56,664
at it many movies later,
2349
01:38:56,664 --> 01:38:58,933
and now, a
television series?
2350
01:38:58,933 --> 01:39:03,504
- Eight episodes, eight hour
long episodes of killer
doll.
2351
01:39:03,504 --> 01:39:05,506
The foundation
is the same.
2352
01:39:05,506 --> 01:39:08,642
Don Mancini is the show
runner, and wrote the pilot,
2353
01:39:08,642 --> 01:39:10,611
and is directing
the pilot.
2354
01:39:10,611 --> 01:39:12,613
David Kirschner
is producing.
2355
01:39:12,613 --> 01:39:14,682
All the lead puppeteers
are back on it.
2356
01:39:14,682 --> 01:39:16,283
- And of course,
darling old Chucky,
2357
01:39:16,283 --> 01:39:18,218
the star of our show.
2358
01:39:18,218 --> 01:39:19,586
We must not forget him,
2359
01:39:19,586 --> 01:39:21,488
because if we did he would
get very, very cranky.
2360
01:39:23,657 --> 01:39:26,527
I have to be quiet now,
'cause we're filming. Bye.
2361
01:39:26,527 --> 01:39:27,661
- It's been an interesting
journey really.
2362
01:39:27,661 --> 01:39:30,531
The world has gotten
a lot smaller.
2363
01:39:30,531 --> 01:39:32,533
- And the family's
gotten larger.
2364
01:39:32,533 --> 01:39:34,835
- It's a little
dysfunctional and deadly,
2365
01:39:34,835 --> 01:39:38,472
but everybody gets along
and has a lot of fun.
2366
01:39:38,472 --> 01:39:40,641
- And we're just gonna
keep on killing people.
2367
01:39:40,641 --> 01:39:42,710
The family that
slays together
2368
01:39:42,710 --> 01:39:44,812
stays together.
- Stays together.
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