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Previously on
So Help Me Todd...Maybe Aunt Patty
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could come down.I don't want Aunt Patty
to come down.
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When's the last time
you were in a cemetery?
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Dad.Yeah, me, too.
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I'm not a client.TODD:
You're Susan's fiancé.
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[sighs]
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TODD:
You kissed me, in my office,
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and now you're just like,
"No, it never happened"?
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Oh, it's really starting
to hit me.
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[chuckles] Susan,
you'll be fine.
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I was also petrified
on my first day
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of my first trial
as lead attorney,
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and the surprise witness was
my high school boyfriend Chip.
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But I still won,
and you will, too.
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I feel like I can't breathe.
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It's a simple civil trial.
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You can do this.
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I'm gonna run upstairs
for a quick hearing,
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and I'll be right back
down to see you in action.
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Okay? Yes.
Okay.
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You're going
to kill it.
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[exhales]
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And we will prove, beyond
a shadow of a doubt,
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that the Total Eclipse
Shampoo company, um,
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caused my-- caused
my client, Ms. Hayes,
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to suffer from
first-degree...
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to-to suffer from
loss of hair,
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loss of motor
function,
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and-and second-degree
burns to her head.
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Through our independent testing,
we will show
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that this batch of
shampoo was tainted
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with dangerous chemicals,
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and that the Total Eclipse
Shampoo parent company was...
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[woman coughing]
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Ma'am, are you okay?
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[others shouting, screaming]
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MAN: Someone get a doctor!WOMAN: Is she okay?
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MAN: Somebody call 911!WOMAN: Is she breathing?
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What's going on? What...
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What is going-- Oh, my God.
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Oh, my God, what happened?
What happ...
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Susan?
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Well, I killed it.
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You put it in the microwave
for 30 seconds,
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it tastes a billion times
better.
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Whoa, holy...
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A juror on Susan's trial died?
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Uh-huh. Well, wait,
What do you mean "unnatural"?
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It wasn't a stroke?
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She was poisoned?
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NEWS ANCHOR:
Yesterday, a juror died.
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And today, another juror
was taken into custody
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for suspected murder.
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What's happening?They arrested
juror number three.
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FRANCEY:Oh, my God in heaven.
That's Amy Morelin.
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TODD:
Who's Amy Morelin?
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Rose Festival Queen. 2008?
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That's Queen Amy?Yep.
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TODD:
Oh, my God.
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She looks exactly the same,
but older.
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And in custody.She looks good.
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And what did the police say?
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The water bottle
under Irene's chair
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was tainted with a poison
made from plant fertilizer.
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And there were only two sets
of fingerprints on the bottle.
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The dead juror Irene's...
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And Amy's.
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Yeah.
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[sighs]:
Oh, God.
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Amy works as a florist.
At a gardening shop.
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Access. What about motive?
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Well, there was the tape.
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LYLE:Day before the murder,
courthouse parking lot.
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MARGARET:
Mm-hmm.That's Amy, that's Irene.
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Mm-hmm.No sound, unfortunately.
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But from the looks of it,
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they did not like
each other, at all.
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But Amy seemed so
nice, and smart.
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I thought that she would be
my alpha juror.
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And she's moving to New York
next month
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to start law school at Cornell,
just like I did.
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It's just hard to believe that
she would jeopardize all of that
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by poisoning someone.
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But she wouldn't.
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She had her whole
life ahead of her.
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She was Rose Festival Queen.
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Who may have thorns
we don't know about.
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I'm going to get all
the files from the trial.
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MARGARET:
Close the door behind you.Yeah.
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[crying]:
Margaret, my first trial.
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And that poor woman
was murdered,
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and another one is just gonna
go to jail for what, forever?
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I just can't stand it.
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Susan, I know. It's awful.
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But there is nothing
that you can do about it now.
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You're a witness
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to the murder.
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But you could represent her.
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I mean, you always told
me to trust my gut.
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And Margaret, in my gut,
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I know that Amy
did not murder that woman.
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Help her.
Please, Margaret.
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Help me.
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[beeping]
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So, the fight, in
the parking lot.
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I think I maybe stole
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a parking space
from her, accidentally?
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I-I really don't know.
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I, uh, I didn't see her.
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And then, when I
got out of my car,
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she just started
screaming at me.
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And you gave it right back.
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Well, she was yelling and
I didn't even know who she was.
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I was so surprised to realize
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that she was the person
on the jury with me.
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But I never would've killed her.
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And you never met her
or spoke to her or knew her
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anywhere ever, before that?
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No. She was just
some random lady.
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Who died.
[moans]
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[exhales] This is just
so messed up and awful.
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Uh, you're a local celebrity,
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and that-that might put
the jury on your side,
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or it may turn public
opinion against you.
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I mean, people
love nothing more
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than a salacious story about
a fallen local celebrity.
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I was 18.
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I was Rose Festival Queen
for one year,
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and there have been
15 Rose Queens after me.
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I'm not a local celebrity.
I'm local history.
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[laughs softly]
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The evidence against you
is circumstantial.
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I believe that the police
made you the prime suspect
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because it was
the simplest solution.
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So a large component
of your defense
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is going to be pinpointing
an alternate suspect.
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You mean figuring out who
really killed juror number nine.
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Exactly.
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Oh, my God. Wow. Queen Amy.
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You're out.
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And about. You're here.
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Yeah, I'm allowed to leave
my house arrest cell
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to see my lawyer,
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Huh.thanks to this
stylish ankle monitor
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and the armed driver
waiting for me downstairs.
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Well, I'm Todd. I'm the
investigator on your case.
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I was actually a junior
in high school
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when you won
Rose Festival Queen.
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Were you at Jefferson with me?
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Uh, no, no, I was at Wilson.
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I mean, now it's Ida B. Wells,
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but yeah, I just remember
seeing it-- you, on TV.
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[chuckles]
Wilson.
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Oh, your Princess was Kelly.
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She was so sweet.
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So, if you're the investigator,
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um, does that mean that
there's any new information
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to know about?
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Any clues, suspects?
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Uh, no, not yet, but soon.
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We're-we're just starting
to look into it now.
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Uh, maybe this is weird,
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but could I give you my number?
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And then maybe
you could call me
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and you could update me
on any new developments?
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Otherwise I'm just gonna be
in my apartment obsessing.
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Sure. Um, yeah,
let me just, uh-- Here.
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Just put your number
in my phone.
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Unless your girlfriend
is gonna be upset to find
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some strange lady's
phone number in here.
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[chuckles]
Nope. Uh...
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No girlfriend.
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And no other Queens
in my phone, either.
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Except for Queen Elizabeth.
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But you know. RIP.
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And Freddie Mercury, of Queen,
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who was always changing
his number. And also...
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BOTH:
RIP. [laughter]
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My elevator's here. I got to go.Oh, yeah, yes, yes, go.
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[timer dings]
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Patty,
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how long are you
planning to stay?
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[chuckles]
Well, with a view like that,
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why would I ever leave?
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It's breathtaking.
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I can't imagine why Harry
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wouldn't have wanted
to live here.
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Okay, let's not talk
about things like that.
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Okay? Not now. Private things,
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on this visit,
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for once. All right.Oh.
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You're making a pie? Oh!
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You're holding up
your little pinkies
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like Mom did
when she baked.
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No, I'm not.
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You're not putting the cinnamon
in before the butter, right?
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Yes, Patty, I'm making
the family recipe.
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No, that's not the way
to do it, though.
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I actually wrote down
the family recipe.
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Oh, you wrote down the family
recipe in my handwriting?
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That's not your handwriting.It is my handwriting.
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That's me. I did...
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Don't put it in.
You don't put it in.I put it in.
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You have to...There, it went in.
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That's the family recipe, okay?
That's what I did.No...
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[doorbell rings]Ooh, the kids are here.
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PATTY: See?MARGARET:
Patty, it's fine. It's fine.
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Oh, Todd, I looked up
that poison you mentioned.
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What poison?I don't know what
other conversations
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you're having with other sisters
about poisons,
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Right.but the one that
you mentioned to me
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is actually
parloxid blutominide.
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And yes, the Rose Queen
could have made it herself
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using... common fertilizers
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and simple instructions
from the Internet.
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We do through this whole poison
treatment module in the ER,
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and that one
is particularly volatile
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and fugacious.Which means?
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Short-lived.Which means?
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If the delivery system is water,
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it's only potent
for about 60 minutes.
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Which means...What are we talking about?
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ALLISON:
Uh, the murder.
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The Rose Festival Queen thing.
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Ooh. Yeah.
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Okay. Well...
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Let's see, okay.
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So, the Rose Festival
is basically Portland's version
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of the Miss America pageant,
so every high school
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selects a senior
for their Rose Princess,
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then, at the festival,
a Queen is elected.
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She gets a scholarship,
she gets a whole new wardrobe...
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Uh, Patty,
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I-I know. I'm from here.
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Mm-hmm. You know, your
mother would have killed
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for you to have been
a Rose Princess.
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Never.Or to have been
one herself.
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But I guess this Rose Queen
really did kill somebody.
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Boy, she snapped
and beheaded a judge, was it?
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No one was beheaded, Patty.
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Oh, yeah, well, I think
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that's for the jury to decide.
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What are these?CHUCK:
These are the placemats.
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Those are-- No, those aren't.
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What do you mean?Those are not the
ones that we use.
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These are the ones
we always use.
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No, we never use those.Um...
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So, uh, what brings you
to town, Aunt Patty?
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Oh, well, there's
a ceremony for me.Oh.
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A little cocktail party.
I want you all to come.
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I donated
some money
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00:09:19,907 --> 00:09:22,431
to a refugee organization
of sorts, and now
253
00:09:22,474 --> 00:09:25,173
they're dedicating a wing
of their building in my honor.
254
00:09:25,216 --> 00:09:27,567
And I just like to come in on,
you know, during springtime,
255
00:09:27,610 --> 00:09:29,003
when it's all colorful
256
00:09:29,046 --> 00:09:30,961
and there are flowers
and it's so pretty, you know.
257
00:09:31,005 --> 00:09:33,224
By this time next year
I'll be blind, so...
258
00:09:33,268 --> 00:09:34,704
I'm trying to soak it
all in while I can.
259
00:09:34,748 --> 00:09:37,620
What could have compelled
that sweet, poor little girl
260
00:09:37,664 --> 00:09:39,230
to execute somebody?
261
00:09:39,274 --> 00:09:40,928
Well, I don't think
she executed anyone.
262
00:09:40,971 --> 00:09:43,539
I don't think she did it.
She's very nice.
263
00:09:43,583 --> 00:09:45,193
Well, maybe she's a sociopath.
264
00:09:45,236 --> 00:09:46,716
Could've been
a thrill kill.Patty.
265
00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,588
Patty? Patty, Patty, Patty.Oh.
266
00:09:48,631 --> 00:09:51,591
She is my client,
and she did not murder anyone.
267
00:09:51,634 --> 00:09:53,897
Oh, well, I guess
we'll never know.
268
00:09:53,941 --> 00:09:55,507
Amy's a victim, Patty,
269
00:09:55,551 --> 00:09:57,466
and Irene was poisoned
by someone else.
270
00:09:57,509 --> 00:09:59,207
Or maybe she just up and died.
271
00:09:59,250 --> 00:10:01,513
You know, sometimes a death like
that can be very convenient.
272
00:10:01,557 --> 00:10:03,515
[chuckles]
Just ask your mother.
273
00:10:05,343 --> 00:10:07,302
[mouths]
274
00:10:08,782 --> 00:10:10,610
PATTY:
Night, Magpie.
275
00:10:15,527 --> 00:10:18,705
[inhales, grunts]
276
00:10:46,515 --> 00:10:48,691
All right, Lyle,
what do you have?
277
00:10:48,735 --> 00:10:50,388
Security camera footage,
278
00:10:50,432 --> 00:10:52,521
inside the courthouse showing
the bailiff delivering
279
00:10:52,564 --> 00:10:54,871
a sealed and wrapped
case of water
280
00:10:54,915 --> 00:10:57,569
to the jury room
at 6:02 a.m.
281
00:10:57,613 --> 00:10:58,788
One of those bottles was found
282
00:10:58,832 --> 00:11:00,529
under Irene's chair
containing the poison.
283
00:11:00,572 --> 00:11:02,313
And you, Todd? What do you have?
284
00:11:02,357 --> 00:11:04,315
A theory.Mm-hmm?
285
00:11:04,359 --> 00:11:06,013
Those water bottles
sat in that room, alone,
286
00:11:06,056 --> 00:11:09,190
for three hours until the jury
started coming in around 9:00.
287
00:11:09,233 --> 00:11:11,192
And Irene died at 9:27.
288
00:11:11,235 --> 00:11:15,022
So, if the poison
is only active for one hour,
289
00:11:15,065 --> 00:11:16,501
then all these
court employees,
290
00:11:16,545 --> 00:11:18,155
the stenographer,
the shampoo lawyers--
291
00:11:18,199 --> 00:11:19,504
who might have loved
a mistrial--
292
00:11:19,548 --> 00:11:21,202
are all off the hook.
293
00:11:21,245 --> 00:11:22,725
Because none of them
went into the jury room,
294
00:11:22,769 --> 00:11:24,509
none of them had access
to the bottles of water.
295
00:11:24,553 --> 00:11:25,902
Only one
of the jurors
296
00:11:25,946 --> 00:11:27,599
could have gotten that poison
into that bottle
297
00:11:27,643 --> 00:11:30,167
and into Irene's hands
in that slim half-hour window.
298
00:11:30,211 --> 00:11:32,866
You know what's bothering me?Hmm?
299
00:11:32,909 --> 00:11:34,824
There are roughly 803,000 people
in Multnomah County.
300
00:11:34,868 --> 00:11:37,044
796 were called
for jury duty that day,
301
00:11:37,087 --> 00:11:38,959
100 were sent to that courtroom,
302
00:11:39,002 --> 00:11:40,743
only 12 made it
into the jury box.
303
00:11:40,787 --> 00:11:42,527
But all these selections
are completely random
304
00:11:42,571 --> 00:11:44,138
and made by a computer.
305
00:11:44,181 --> 00:11:46,488
That's like the lottery,
which means...That the jury
306
00:11:46,531 --> 00:11:49,709
is most likely comprised
of 12 complete strangers.
307
00:11:49,752 --> 00:11:52,189
Or maybe one of them shows up,
308
00:11:52,233 --> 00:11:54,975
and-- surprise--
recognizes juror number nine,
309
00:11:55,018 --> 00:11:58,369
has some deep, dark, horrible,
secret connection to her
310
00:11:58,413 --> 00:12:00,502
and decides
to send her kersplitzo.
311
00:12:00,545 --> 00:12:01,416
Kersplitzo?
312
00:12:01,459 --> 00:12:02,591
We need to talk to these jurors.
313
00:12:02,634 --> 00:12:03,592
All 12 of them.
314
00:12:03,635 --> 00:12:04,854
I mean, nine. One is dead.
315
00:12:04,898 --> 00:12:06,726
I mean, nine is dead.
The number nine.
316
00:12:06,769 --> 00:12:08,249
And three is accused
of killing nine.
317
00:12:08,292 --> 00:12:09,554
Maybe seven ate nine.
318
00:12:09,598 --> 00:12:11,121
What I mean is,
what we really need to do--
319
00:12:11,165 --> 00:12:12,557
even though we don't
have enough time--
320
00:12:12,601 --> 00:12:15,343
is get the remaining ten in here
and interview them.
321
00:12:15,386 --> 00:12:16,692
Find out who they are,
322
00:12:16,736 --> 00:12:18,041
what they do,
what they think.
323
00:12:18,085 --> 00:12:19,869
Wait.
324
00:12:19,913 --> 00:12:22,045
We've already done that.
325
00:12:22,089 --> 00:12:24,265
The voir dire transcript.
326
00:12:24,308 --> 00:12:25,483
They were all
interviewed thoroughly
327
00:12:25,527 --> 00:12:27,137
during jury selection.
328
00:12:27,181 --> 00:12:28,182
If there's a
random connection
329
00:12:28,225 --> 00:12:30,488
between any of them,
330
00:12:30,532 --> 00:12:31,620
we'll find it here.
331
00:12:32,795 --> 00:12:34,405
Okay. Okay, okay.
332
00:12:34,449 --> 00:12:35,885
We're gonna need a bigger room.
333
00:12:35,929 --> 00:12:37,495
Okay.
334
00:12:41,064 --> 00:12:42,805
Good?Found some photos
of all the jurors,
335
00:12:42,849 --> 00:12:45,415
some of which I had to
pull from social media.
336
00:12:45,460 --> 00:12:46,635
All right, let's arrange them
in their order.
337
00:12:46,678 --> 00:12:48,115
One through six on top...
338
00:12:48,158 --> 00:12:49,986
[overlapping chatter]
339
00:12:50,030 --> 00:12:51,161
This is the best picture
you could find...
340
00:12:51,205 --> 00:12:53,337
It's not a beauty contest,
Francey.
341
00:12:53,381 --> 00:12:54,730
We're gonna solve a crime here.FRANCEY:
Can't even tell who that is.
342
00:12:54,774 --> 00:12:55,992
Careful with those.Why?
343
00:12:56,036 --> 00:12:56,819
Don't bend the corners.
344
00:12:56,863 --> 00:12:58,212
TODD:
I need eight...
345
00:12:58,255 --> 00:12:59,909
This is five. Here.This is five.
346
00:12:59,953 --> 00:13:01,519
Got it, got it, got it.
347
00:13:01,563 --> 00:13:02,912
Okay.All right.
348
00:13:02,956 --> 00:13:06,263
So, one of these jurors
is the real killer.
349
00:13:06,307 --> 00:13:08,483
My money's on the bee.
350
00:13:08,526 --> 00:13:10,441
♪
351
00:13:17,144 --> 00:13:20,147
Okay, first things first.
Irene is dead,
352
00:13:20,190 --> 00:13:22,366
and Amy is our client.
353
00:13:22,410 --> 00:13:24,978
And these four: Sven, Danielle,
354
00:13:25,021 --> 00:13:29,765
Kathy and Sal, never made it
into the jury room that morning.
355
00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:31,027
Sven and Kathy were late,
356
00:13:31,071 --> 00:13:32,681
Danielle and Sal were
talking to the judge,
357
00:13:32,724 --> 00:13:34,857
and none of them
got water bottles.Okay.
358
00:13:34,901 --> 00:13:37,251
TODD:
And then there were six.
359
00:13:37,294 --> 00:13:40,341
Okay. Somewhere in here
360
00:13:40,384 --> 00:13:43,431
is a connection between one
of them and our victim Irene.
361
00:13:43,474 --> 00:13:45,389
So let's get down to it.
362
00:13:45,433 --> 00:13:47,348
[papers thud]
363
00:13:47,391 --> 00:13:48,958
FRANCEY:
Irene was 71 years old,
364
00:13:49,002 --> 00:13:51,526
a former financial adviser
at Lehman Brothers.
365
00:13:51,569 --> 00:13:54,268
And she moved
from Pasadena to Portland
366
00:13:54,311 --> 00:13:56,096
three years ago to retire.
367
00:13:57,749 --> 00:13:59,490
TODD:
Okay, Sydney works for...
368
00:13:59,534 --> 00:14:00,752
Really? Murder Inc.?
369
00:14:00,796 --> 00:14:02,972
A role-playing
board game company?
370
00:14:03,016 --> 00:14:04,365
And she "loves it."
371
00:14:04,408 --> 00:14:06,715
MARGARET:
Zena does not use shampoo.
372
00:14:06,758 --> 00:14:09,587
And she tried like hell
to get out of jury duty.
373
00:14:09,631 --> 00:14:12,721
Not Lou. "Thrilled to be here"
and "Happy to serve."
374
00:14:12,764 --> 00:14:14,114
FRANCEY [mutters]:
One, two, three...
375
00:14:14,157 --> 00:14:15,463
MARGARET:
Rachel lives in Dunthorpe,
376
00:14:15,506 --> 00:14:18,031
"distrusts
financial institutions"
377
00:14:18,074 --> 00:14:20,381
as a result
of some "bad investments."
378
00:14:20,424 --> 00:14:22,774
Possibly by Lehman Brothers.
Possible connection.
379
00:14:22,818 --> 00:14:25,168
FRANCEY:
Okay, and the bumblebee,
he does use shampoo.
380
00:14:25,212 --> 00:14:27,823
but he wanted to make sure
he was "done with jury duty
381
00:14:27,867 --> 00:14:30,173
in time to make
the big Ducks game."
382
00:14:30,217 --> 00:14:32,567
He went to U of O,
just like Irene.
383
00:14:32,610 --> 00:14:34,134
Another connection.
384
00:14:34,177 --> 00:14:36,963
[indistinct chatter]
385
00:14:37,006 --> 00:14:39,835
LYLE:
Hold on. This Cole looks
too young to be on jury duty.
386
00:14:39,879 --> 00:14:41,924
Aha, that's exactly
what he wants you to think.
387
00:14:41,968 --> 00:14:43,404
Did you see the part
where he says he reads
388
00:14:43,447 --> 00:14:46,233
The Wall Street Journal
every day? Baloney.
389
00:14:46,276 --> 00:14:47,974
No one does that.Irene did.
390
00:14:48,017 --> 00:14:50,193
Put it on the board.
391
00:14:50,237 --> 00:14:52,326
MARGARET:
All right.
392
00:14:52,369 --> 00:14:56,765
It is time to bring these six in
393
00:14:56,808 --> 00:14:59,028
and ask them some questions.
394
00:15:01,509 --> 00:15:02,814
TODD:
Since Irene was poisoned,
395
00:15:02,858 --> 00:15:04,033
do we really think
it's the best idea
396
00:15:04,077 --> 00:15:05,600
to be serving them
powdered donuts?
397
00:15:05,643 --> 00:15:07,602
I mean, hasn't anyone
read Flowers in the Attic?
398
00:15:07,645 --> 00:15:08,995
FRANCEY:
Where are the other two?
399
00:15:09,038 --> 00:15:10,257
MARGARET:
I could only track down
these four.
400
00:15:10,300 --> 00:15:11,649
Okay, we are gonna
bring them in,
401
00:15:11,693 --> 00:15:12,955
one by one, for questioning.
402
00:15:12,999 --> 00:15:14,217
Then I want you
to hold them here
403
00:15:14,261 --> 00:15:16,393
so that I can bring them
back in for follow-up--
404
00:15:16,437 --> 00:15:18,700
Oh, my God, give me a second.
405
00:15:18,743 --> 00:15:20,963
[chuckles]: Uh, Patty.
My sister Patty.
406
00:15:21,007 --> 00:15:23,139
Patty, what are you doing here?
407
00:15:23,183 --> 00:15:24,706
I thought we were having lunch?
Are you too busy?
408
00:15:24,749 --> 00:15:26,664
Don't worry, I can
make myself scarce until...
409
00:15:28,231 --> 00:15:29,972
Hello.
410
00:15:30,016 --> 00:15:32,453
So you're the murderers.
That's exciting.
411
00:15:32,496 --> 00:15:34,324
Is that a green-crested
cockatoo in that cage?
412
00:15:34,368 --> 00:15:36,674
Very distinctive coo.[bird chirping]
413
00:15:36,718 --> 00:15:38,502
I studied ornithology.
414
00:15:38,546 --> 00:15:41,331
Well, me and Vanilla Ice
are on the way to the vet,
415
00:15:41,375 --> 00:15:43,290
but I'm happy to
help. H-How can I?
416
00:15:43,333 --> 00:15:44,639
MARGARET:
Mr. Briggs,
during voir dire,
417
00:15:44,682 --> 00:15:48,643
did you speak to juror
number nine Irene at all?
418
00:15:48,686 --> 00:15:51,559
No. Didn't say two words
to each other.
419
00:15:51,602 --> 00:15:53,909
She seemed nice, though.
420
00:15:53,953 --> 00:15:55,606
Now, what does, uh,
"voir dire" mean again?
421
00:15:55,650 --> 00:15:58,131
Oh, it's French.
It means "To speak the truth."
422
00:15:58,174 --> 00:16:00,133
TODD:
And, uh, Lou,
423
00:16:00,176 --> 00:16:03,440
on the day she died, how did you
get your water bottle?
424
00:16:03,484 --> 00:16:05,965
Oh, I... I don't remember. Uh...
425
00:16:06,008 --> 00:16:07,140
Somebody handed it to me,
I guess.
426
00:16:07,183 --> 00:16:08,619
MARGARET:
And Blake,
427
00:16:08,663 --> 00:16:10,882
do you remember if you drank
from your bottle of water?
428
00:16:10,926 --> 00:16:13,885
I mean, does it matter? You
know, did I even have a water?
429
00:16:13,929 --> 00:16:15,539
I'm pretty hydrated, brah.
[chuckles]
430
00:16:15,583 --> 00:16:18,542
Uh, yes. You went to U of O,
431
00:16:18,586 --> 00:16:21,197
as did Irene, 40 years earlier.
432
00:16:21,241 --> 00:16:23,025
Who's Irene?
433
00:16:23,069 --> 00:16:24,592
The juror who died?
434
00:16:24,635 --> 00:16:26,768
Uh, did you ever
run into her
435
00:16:26,811 --> 00:16:28,509
at any alumni events?
436
00:16:28,552 --> 00:16:30,859
Are you sure that was her name?
The old chick?
437
00:16:30,902 --> 00:16:32,078
Irene?
438
00:16:32,121 --> 00:16:33,383
As for alumni events: maybe?
439
00:16:33,427 --> 00:16:34,819
I'm usually
pretty hammered at those.
440
00:16:34,863 --> 00:16:36,386
All right, Bryce.It's Blake.
441
00:16:36,430 --> 00:16:37,997
Same thing.
442
00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,694
So, Cole,
443
00:16:39,737 --> 00:16:41,391
where do you live?
444
00:16:41,435 --> 00:16:43,741
Um, Hillsdale area.
445
00:16:43,785 --> 00:16:45,613
Hmm. And, Cole,
do you live alone?
446
00:16:45,656 --> 00:16:48,355
Uh, no. I actually live
with this lovely older couple.
447
00:16:48,398 --> 00:16:49,573
Jean and Peter.
448
00:16:49,617 --> 00:16:52,141
Ah, Jean and Peter Winbar?
Your parents?
449
00:16:53,664 --> 00:16:57,277
Cole, I-I don't think I actually
believe that you are 18.
450
00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,802
Um, okay, so...
451
00:17:00,845 --> 00:17:04,109
I may have lied about my age
so I could get a fake I.D.
452
00:17:04,153 --> 00:17:06,329
and vote.Oh.
453
00:17:06,373 --> 00:17:08,288
I-I didn't know they were
gonna give me jury duty.
454
00:17:08,330 --> 00:17:11,160
W-Where do your parents
think you are right now?
455
00:17:11,204 --> 00:17:13,162
A-Algebra?Okay.
456
00:17:13,205 --> 00:17:14,729
Okay, so you're the detective.
457
00:17:14,771 --> 00:17:16,731
And you're the lawyer.
458
00:17:16,773 --> 00:17:18,340
Like good cop, bad cop?
I love it.
459
00:17:18,385 --> 00:17:19,951
I love murder.
I mean, all crime, really.
460
00:17:19,994 --> 00:17:21,779
Oh, my God, I'm so excited.
Are we gonna recreate the crime?
461
00:17:21,823 --> 00:17:23,128
Because I brought
the clothes I was wearing.
462
00:17:23,172 --> 00:17:25,957
Uh, hey, Sydney,
that really wasn't necessary.
463
00:17:26,001 --> 00:17:27,394
Is this gonna be on PDX Files?
464
00:17:27,436 --> 00:17:29,309
Is Lea Luna here?
465
00:17:29,352 --> 00:17:31,311
I have not had one sip of water
since it happened.
466
00:17:31,354 --> 00:17:33,574
Hello?
Flavorless poison.
467
00:17:33,617 --> 00:17:35,228
Okay, motive-wise,
what are your thoughts?
468
00:17:35,271 --> 00:17:36,751
I have some theories.
It's either a sex crime
469
00:17:36,794 --> 00:17:38,187
or someone has a twin.
470
00:17:38,231 --> 00:17:41,538
Okay, okay. Sydney?
Sydney, did you talk to Irene?
471
00:17:41,582 --> 00:17:43,149
Ah. Okay.
472
00:17:43,192 --> 00:17:45,673
Crafting an alternate theory.
473
00:17:45,716 --> 00:17:46,978
But alas, no.
474
00:17:47,022 --> 00:17:48,719
I was taking notes.
475
00:17:48,763 --> 00:17:50,156
All right.
Who's your front-runner?
476
00:17:50,199 --> 00:17:51,505
I think...O-Okay, Sydney.
477
00:17:51,548 --> 00:17:53,289
Thank you, but you can go now.
478
00:17:53,333 --> 00:17:55,074
What about my blood
and my saliva samples?
479
00:17:55,117 --> 00:17:57,032
What about my fingerprints?
480
00:17:57,076 --> 00:17:59,252
Aren't we lie detector-ing?
481
00:17:59,295 --> 00:18:00,340
Thank you, Sydney.
We don't do that here.
482
00:18:00,383 --> 00:18:02,081
This is Margaret Wright's
office.
483
00:18:02,124 --> 00:18:04,257
Ah. Yes.The glass was my idea.
She wanted brick.
484
00:18:04,300 --> 00:18:06,476
There's asbestos
in the ceiling.
485
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,782
AMY [over phone]:
Hey.Hey.
486
00:18:07,825 --> 00:18:09,131
What's happening?
What's the latest?
487
00:18:09,175 --> 00:18:10,350
Uh, well,
we're still interviewing
488
00:18:10,393 --> 00:18:11,612
alternative suspects.
489
00:18:11,655 --> 00:18:13,570
But my mom wanted to ask
if you remembered
490
00:18:13,614 --> 00:18:16,443
anything in particular about
juror number seven? Blake?
491
00:18:16,486 --> 00:18:19,054
Oh, the bro-ey frat guy?Yeah.
492
00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:21,752
No. He hit on me,
but, like, in a bored way.
493
00:18:21,796 --> 00:18:24,581
I don't think that he'd be
smart enough to...
494
00:18:24,625 --> 00:18:27,628
Yeah, yeah, I don't think so,
either. [chuckles]
495
00:18:27,671 --> 00:18:30,326
But, um, h-how are you doing?
496
00:18:30,370 --> 00:18:32,067
Do you need anything?
497
00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:34,287
[sighs]
Well, DoorDash won't deliver
498
00:18:34,330 --> 00:18:36,724
because my account was hacked,
499
00:18:36,767 --> 00:18:39,335
and somebody had $300 worth
of pizza on me.
500
00:18:39,379 --> 00:18:40,380
Yikes.
501
00:18:40,423 --> 00:18:42,033
So I'm eating all my outdated
502
00:18:42,077 --> 00:18:43,905
pandemic canned fish.
503
00:18:43,948 --> 00:18:45,124
Hmm.
504
00:18:45,167 --> 00:18:48,562
Well, have you heard
of Todd Dash?
505
00:18:49,563 --> 00:18:51,347
[both chuckle]
506
00:18:53,349 --> 00:18:55,395
Yeah, Amy's not convinced
it's the bee.
507
00:18:55,438 --> 00:18:57,223
And in my humble opinion,
508
00:18:57,266 --> 00:18:59,225
I don't think it's Birdman,
Young Angela Lansbury
509
00:18:59,268 --> 00:19:00,791
or the Boy Wonder.
510
00:19:00,835 --> 00:19:04,317
Uh-huh. Well, I'm more concerned
about these two no-shows.
511
00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:06,101
Rachel and Zena.FRANCEY:Yeah.
512
00:19:06,145 --> 00:19:07,015
They didn't even bother
calling me back.
513
00:19:07,058 --> 00:19:08,538
But I keep thinking about this
514
00:19:08,582 --> 00:19:11,585
Rachel/financial
investment connection.
515
00:19:11,628 --> 00:19:13,326
Yeah, what if she lost money
through Lehman Brothers?
516
00:19:13,369 --> 00:19:15,023
What if she knew Irene?
517
00:19:15,066 --> 00:19:17,112
Maybe we should pay
a visit to Rachel
518
00:19:17,156 --> 00:19:19,636
at 3710 Military Road?
519
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,509
Todd, jacket.
Francey, I'll be right back.
520
00:19:22,552 --> 00:19:24,206
Wait, you're gonna leave me
here with your sister?Y-Yeah, no...
521
00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:27,122
No, seriously? Margaret?
No, Margaret.
522
00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:28,341
[sighs]
523
00:19:32,214 --> 00:19:36,349
Pretty sure we had a VW bus
tailing us on the way over here.
524
00:19:36,392 --> 00:19:38,002
It's gone now, though.
525
00:19:38,046 --> 00:19:41,789
Well, Rachel has never been
part of a class action lawsuit,
526
00:19:41,832 --> 00:19:43,660
and she does not trust
corporations.
527
00:19:43,704 --> 00:19:45,532
Oh, they always say that
to get out of jury duty.
528
00:19:45,575 --> 00:19:46,794
Hmm.
529
00:19:49,057 --> 00:19:51,799
Hey, what did Aunt Patty mean
the other night
530
00:19:51,842 --> 00:19:54,976
when she said that sometimes
death could be convenient?
531
00:19:55,019 --> 00:19:56,369
[coughs]
532
00:19:56,412 --> 00:19:57,935
Mom?
533
00:19:57,979 --> 00:19:59,981
Ugh...
[mutters]
534
00:20:00,024 --> 00:20:02,723
Do you remember when she told us
that the-the easiest way
535
00:20:02,766 --> 00:20:05,247
to dispose of our Christmas tree
was to eat it?
536
00:20:05,291 --> 00:20:06,901
I mean, she's bonkers.
537
00:20:07,945 --> 00:20:09,773
She makes my skin crawl.
538
00:20:09,817 --> 00:20:10,687
Why?
539
00:20:12,515 --> 00:20:15,301
Why do any siblings
not get along?
540
00:20:15,344 --> 00:20:16,954
I mean, i-it can be awful
541
00:20:16,998 --> 00:20:18,826
having someone trailing you
through life
542
00:20:18,869 --> 00:20:21,220
and keeping tabs on you and...
543
00:20:21,263 --> 00:20:23,613
and remembering
your every mistake.
544
00:20:23,657 --> 00:20:26,007
It's like you and Lawrence.
Y-You just don't get along.
545
00:20:26,050 --> 00:20:27,487
Whoa. There she is.
546
00:20:30,751 --> 00:20:33,580
Mommy!
Hi. Oh.
547
00:20:33,623 --> 00:20:35,495
Okay. Let's go.
548
00:20:35,538 --> 00:20:37,932
MARGARET:
Hi. I'm Margaret WrightHi.
549
00:20:37,975 --> 00:20:39,194
from Crest, Folding & Song.
550
00:20:39,238 --> 00:20:40,804
Actually, it's just
Crest & Folding now.
551
00:20:40,848 --> 00:20:43,198
And this is my private
investigator Todd Wright.
552
00:20:43,242 --> 00:20:44,852
Same last name. I'm her father.
553
00:20:44,895 --> 00:20:47,333
Oh, yeah, I got your message,
I've just been really busy.
554
00:20:47,376 --> 00:20:48,812
I'll call and get
something scheduled.
555
00:20:48,856 --> 00:20:51,119
Wai-- Or-or you could
just tell us right now
556
00:20:51,162 --> 00:20:52,729
if you ever lost any money
through Lehman Brothers
557
00:20:52,773 --> 00:20:55,471
or knew Irene Kimpton before?
558
00:20:55,515 --> 00:20:57,168
MAN:
Honey, who is that?
559
00:20:57,212 --> 00:20:59,301
I really can't talk.
560
00:20:59,345 --> 00:21:01,303
I can't.
Wait.
561
00:21:03,697 --> 00:21:05,699
Uh, go get the car.
Go get the car.
562
00:21:06,787 --> 00:21:09,442
So, not suspicious at all, huh?
563
00:21:09,485 --> 00:21:12,009
We may have to subpoena
her financial records
564
00:21:12,053 --> 00:21:15,404
and bank account statements,
all of it.
565
00:21:15,448 --> 00:21:17,450
Wait a minute.
566
00:21:17,493 --> 00:21:18,842
Where is she going?
567
00:21:18,886 --> 00:21:20,714
Todd? Oh, Todd,
she's getting away.
568
00:21:20,757 --> 00:21:22,281
She's getting away.
What are we gonna do?
569
00:21:22,324 --> 00:21:23,847
Okay, let's calm down. I snuck
got my little friend the tNAB
570
00:21:23,891 --> 00:21:28,112
into her bumper, and looks
like she's headed south.
571
00:21:28,156 --> 00:21:30,854
Ooh, Todd, I could kiss you.
572
00:21:30,898 --> 00:21:32,334
Well, I'd rather you drive.
573
00:21:36,904 --> 00:21:38,514
Mommy!
574
00:21:39,776 --> 00:21:41,778
♪
575
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,568
Does Rachel have two families?
576
00:21:54,791 --> 00:21:56,576
Yes, I have two families.
577
00:21:56,619 --> 00:21:58,099
You don't know how difficult
this is,
578
00:21:58,142 --> 00:22:00,014
what a fine line I'm walking.
579
00:22:00,057 --> 00:22:02,059
I fell in love with Thad,
580
00:22:02,103 --> 00:22:03,539
and then I found Bryce
and his son.
581
00:22:03,583 --> 00:22:05,324
That is confusing.
582
00:22:05,367 --> 00:22:06,325
Do you have any idea
how many stories
583
00:22:06,368 --> 00:22:07,326
I have to keep straight?
584
00:22:07,369 --> 00:22:08,762
I can imagine.
585
00:22:08,805 --> 00:22:10,459
I don't have time
to murder anyone.
586
00:22:10,503 --> 00:22:13,201
And Irene and I were friendly.
587
00:22:13,244 --> 00:22:15,334
We laughed about the whole
investment connection.
588
00:22:15,377 --> 00:22:16,770
She lost money, too.
589
00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:19,512
Look, we even took
a selfie together.
590
00:22:19,555 --> 00:22:20,948
My second husband
got suspicious,
591
00:22:20,991 --> 00:22:23,254
so I sent him this to prove
that I was on jury duty.
592
00:22:23,298 --> 00:22:24,473
Question: how do you decide
which husband
593
00:22:24,517 --> 00:22:25,822
to call your second?
594
00:22:25,866 --> 00:22:26,823
MARGARET: Um...TODD: Ow.
595
00:22:26,867 --> 00:22:27,998
Can you please
send me that photo?
596
00:22:28,042 --> 00:22:29,565
You can just email it to...
597
00:22:29,609 --> 00:22:32,089
I'll AirDrop it to you, but
then you really have to leave.
598
00:22:32,133 --> 00:22:34,353
Oh, my goodness.
How did you do that?
599
00:22:34,396 --> 00:22:35,484
TODD:
Mom?
600
00:22:35,528 --> 00:22:37,878
Ten years old, this technology.
601
00:22:37,921 --> 00:22:39,445
Why don't you, uh,
send me that photo?
602
00:22:39,488 --> 00:22:42,317
Oh, of course. Let me
just AirPlop it to you.
603
00:22:42,361 --> 00:22:44,711
AirDrop, Mom.
604
00:22:44,754 --> 00:22:48,758
Wait. You're not "Sleuthy
McSleutherson," are you?
605
00:22:48,802 --> 00:22:50,456
What? No. Are you kidding me?
606
00:22:50,499 --> 00:22:51,935
Well, then-then, who is that?
607
00:22:51,979 --> 00:22:53,197
It's right there
on my phone. Look.
608
00:22:53,241 --> 00:22:55,199
I don't know.
It must be someone else nearby.
609
00:22:55,243 --> 00:22:56,766
Wait, Mom, look.
610
00:22:56,810 --> 00:22:58,115
Oh, my God.
611
00:22:58,159 --> 00:23:00,291
Someone isfollowing us.
612
00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:03,556
Sleuthy.
613
00:23:06,428 --> 00:23:07,690
Ah. Good morning.
614
00:23:07,734 --> 00:23:09,562
You caught me.
I've been following you all day.
615
00:23:09,605 --> 00:23:10,998
I put a tNAB on your car.
616
00:23:11,041 --> 00:23:12,216
What? Hey, that's my thing.
617
00:23:12,260 --> 00:23:13,522
SYDNEY:
It's all for my investigation.
618
00:23:13,566 --> 00:23:14,828
Your investigation?
619
00:23:14,871 --> 00:23:15,916
Do you know how long
I have waited
620
00:23:15,959 --> 00:23:17,396
to be involved in a murder?
621
00:23:17,439 --> 00:23:19,789
And then it just happened.
Someone died near me.
622
00:23:19,833 --> 00:23:22,009
I'm famous. I'll have a podcast.
623
00:23:22,052 --> 00:23:23,924
People will dress as me
for Halloween.
624
00:23:23,967 --> 00:23:25,186
Oh, Sydney,
you have to stop this.
625
00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:26,187
This could be very dangerous.
626
00:23:26,230 --> 00:23:27,188
And I know
who it is.
627
00:23:27,231 --> 00:23:28,363
It's Rachel. She's a liar.
628
00:23:28,407 --> 00:23:30,060
Two families? And
she hated Irene.
629
00:23:30,104 --> 00:23:31,235
Okay, I see what you're saying
about the liar aspect,
630
00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:32,976
but do you think
that automatically
631
00:23:33,020 --> 00:23:34,282
makes her a murderer?
632
00:23:34,325 --> 00:23:36,110
I mean, that might
just be a red herring.
633
00:23:36,153 --> 00:23:37,372
Plus, I think that-- Sorry.Todd, Todd.
634
00:23:37,416 --> 00:23:38,808
Irene and Rachel
were apparently fine.
635
00:23:38,852 --> 00:23:41,202
Look, they took
this photo together.
636
00:23:41,245 --> 00:23:43,291
Uh, oh, my God.
637
00:23:43,334 --> 00:23:45,424
What?Oh, oh, my God. That-That's it.
638
00:23:45,467 --> 00:23:46,729
What? W-What? What do you see?
639
00:23:46,773 --> 00:23:48,644
No. I call this. This is mine.
640
00:23:48,688 --> 00:23:51,038
[stammers] Ow!No, no, no. Goodbye.
I've got to go!
641
00:23:52,431 --> 00:23:54,084
[tires screeching]
642
00:23:56,870 --> 00:23:59,307
Do we go after her, or...
643
00:23:59,350 --> 00:24:01,744
MARGARET:
What did she see in this photo?
644
00:24:01,788 --> 00:24:04,181
TODD:
This is Aunt Patty's
charity event?
645
00:24:04,225 --> 00:24:06,488
WOMAN:
Thank you so much for coming.
646
00:24:06,532 --> 00:24:09,709
We are delighted to honor
one individual...
647
00:24:09,752 --> 00:24:12,494
Patty.
I'm the honoree this evening.
648
00:24:12,538 --> 00:24:14,061
WOMAN:
Enjoy the food and drink.
649
00:24:14,104 --> 00:24:16,585
All 97% cruelty free.
650
00:24:16,629 --> 00:24:18,718
[applause]Okay, so the refugees
651
00:24:18,761 --> 00:24:21,155
that Aunt Patty is
helping are rabbits?
652
00:24:21,198 --> 00:24:22,678
They're rabbit refugees.
653
00:24:22,722 --> 00:24:25,507
And what about this food and
drink is three percent cruel?
654
00:24:25,551 --> 00:24:27,378
Isn't this fun?
BOTH:
Mm.
655
00:24:27,422 --> 00:24:29,772
I'm so glad you're here.
656
00:24:29,816 --> 00:24:32,558
Whew. I haven't had hard cider
in decades.
657
00:24:33,646 --> 00:24:35,561
Hey, um, Aunt Patty,
658
00:24:35,604 --> 00:24:37,258
Todd and I
were talking.Mm-hmm?
659
00:24:37,301 --> 00:24:38,607
What did you mean
the other night
660
00:24:38,651 --> 00:24:40,435
when you said that
"death can be convenient"?
661
00:24:40,479 --> 00:24:42,524
TODD:
Yeah, a-and then
you said, uh,
662
00:24:42,568 --> 00:24:44,308
"Ask your Mom."Yeah.
663
00:24:44,352 --> 00:24:46,485
Oh, that. Well, y-you know.
664
00:24:46,528 --> 00:24:48,487
Your mother
and your father Oswald.
665
00:24:48,530 --> 00:24:50,314
Ages ago.
666
00:24:50,358 --> 00:24:52,578
Uh, she didn't have
to leave him because he died.
667
00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:56,625
Wait, Aunt Patty.Mm-hmm?
668
00:24:56,669 --> 00:24:59,193
Our mom was gonna leave our dad?
669
00:24:59,236 --> 00:25:02,283
Yes, she was miserable.
Like Allison.
670
00:25:02,326 --> 00:25:03,806
I mean, Chuck is sweet,
671
00:25:03,850 --> 00:25:05,982
but we can all tell
you're unhappy, sweetie.
672
00:25:06,026 --> 00:25:07,636
Your mother was
in a similar predicament.
673
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,465
She put some plans
into motion, but then...
674
00:25:10,509 --> 00:25:12,249
[imitates choking]Patty.
675
00:25:12,293 --> 00:25:13,947
What are you
talking about?
676
00:25:13,990 --> 00:25:15,557
[applause]Oh, here it is. This is me.
This is the plaque.
677
00:25:15,601 --> 00:25:17,646
WOMAN:
And now, the moment
we've all been waiting for.
678
00:25:18,734 --> 00:25:20,040
PATTY:
"Augie Norman"?
679
00:25:20,083 --> 00:25:21,824
That's not my name. Wait.
680
00:25:21,868 --> 00:25:23,652
Wait, I know.
681
00:25:23,696 --> 00:25:27,743
I think I donated that money
to the wild hawk rescue.
682
00:25:27,787 --> 00:25:29,310
Don't hawks eat rabbits?
683
00:25:29,353 --> 00:25:31,094
Oh, yeah.
[chuckles]
684
00:25:31,138 --> 00:25:33,575
This is just a room
full of crazy rabbit people.
685
00:25:33,619 --> 00:25:35,490
Hello.Okay. Let's go.
686
00:25:35,534 --> 00:25:37,971
Yeah.My good word, what
were you thinking?
687
00:25:38,014 --> 00:25:39,886
[overlapping chatter]
688
00:25:43,367 --> 00:25:46,327
I can't tell you
how good this is.
689
00:25:46,370 --> 00:25:47,546
Thank you so much.
690
00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:50,636
Hey. Are you okay?
691
00:25:50,679 --> 00:25:53,595
Oh, yeah. Sorry.
It's just, um...
692
00:25:53,639 --> 00:25:55,075
Long day searching
for the real killer?
693
00:25:55,118 --> 00:25:57,120
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
694
00:25:57,164 --> 00:26:01,603
And, um, I-I know we don't know
each other very well, but...
695
00:26:01,647 --> 00:26:04,388
earlier tonight,
I got this weird info
696
00:26:04,432 --> 00:26:06,347
about my parents' marriage,
697
00:26:06,390 --> 00:26:07,696
back when my dad died.
698
00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:09,132
Oh, wow.
699
00:26:09,176 --> 00:26:10,394
Yeah.I'm so sorry.
700
00:26:10,438 --> 00:26:12,222
No.Um, do you, um...
701
00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:13,484
Do you need to talk?
702
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,315
How old were you?
703
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:19,534
When h-he...
704
00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:21,492
Fourteen.
705
00:26:21,536 --> 00:26:24,147
He was a doctor.
706
00:26:24,191 --> 00:26:26,497
He went to a medical conference
in San Francisco
707
00:26:26,541 --> 00:26:28,543
and he had a heart attack.
708
00:26:28,587 --> 00:26:30,110
Yeah.
709
00:26:30,153 --> 00:26:31,415
My brother and sister
were both in college,
710
00:26:31,459 --> 00:26:34,854
so my mom and I were home alone.
711
00:26:34,897 --> 00:26:37,857
Together. Not dealing with it.
712
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:40,990
And now you find out there's
this whole other backstory?
713
00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:42,992
Yeah.
714
00:26:43,036 --> 00:26:45,647
And she was...
715
00:26:45,691 --> 00:26:47,301
she wanted to leave him.
716
00:26:47,344 --> 00:26:50,173
Or I guess, she was leaving him.
717
00:26:50,217 --> 00:26:54,221
Well, hey, I don't mean
to talk about me
718
00:26:54,264 --> 00:26:56,266
when we're talking
about you... [chuckles]
719
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:57,703
...but I-I do think
I kind of know how you feel.
720
00:26:57,746 --> 00:26:59,095
You do?
721
00:26:59,139 --> 00:27:01,750
Yeah. My mom was...
722
00:27:01,794 --> 00:27:04,579
S-She screwed over
my dad pretty bad.
723
00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:06,015
Mm-hmm.Cheated on him,
724
00:27:06,059 --> 00:27:09,062
made us lie in family court
to get custody.
725
00:27:09,105 --> 00:27:11,107
It was so ugly.
726
00:27:11,151 --> 00:27:13,240
Mm.She was always
good to me, though.
727
00:27:13,283 --> 00:27:15,764
You know, supporting me,
wanting me to succeed.
728
00:27:15,808 --> 00:27:18,158
She really wanted me
to do Rose Festival,
729
00:27:18,201 --> 00:27:20,726
'cause of the college
scholarship and everything.
730
00:27:20,769 --> 00:27:24,773
But I also think I knew that...
731
00:27:24,817 --> 00:27:26,949
inside, she was a...
732
00:27:26,993 --> 00:27:28,821
a bad person.
733
00:27:30,257 --> 00:27:31,737
Huh.
734
00:27:31,780 --> 00:27:34,130
I don't think my mom was bad.
735
00:27:34,174 --> 00:27:36,219
Well, was she good to you?
736
00:27:37,307 --> 00:27:39,135
Yeah.
737
00:27:39,179 --> 00:27:40,963
[phone ringing]Hold on one second.
738
00:27:41,007 --> 00:27:43,226
Hey, Mom.MARGARET [over phone]: Todd.
739
00:27:43,270 --> 00:27:45,489
Someone needs to check
on Amy immediately.
740
00:27:45,533 --> 00:27:46,839
I'm-I'm fairly sure
I know where she is,
741
00:27:46,882 --> 00:27:48,231
but why, what's going on?
742
00:27:48,275 --> 00:27:49,798
The police think someone
743
00:27:49,842 --> 00:27:52,018
may be knocking the jurors off
one by one.
744
00:27:52,061 --> 00:27:54,803
Wait, what?
Why would they think that?
745
00:27:54,847 --> 00:27:58,372
Because Sydney, that juror
who was following us today--
746
00:27:58,415 --> 00:28:00,983
Sleuthy McSleutherson--
she's dead.
747
00:28:01,027 --> 00:28:02,942
They strangled her.
748
00:28:12,212 --> 00:28:13,343
Todd, Todd. Come here.
Look at this.
749
00:28:13,387 --> 00:28:14,867
Uh-huh.Sydney sent me this photo
750
00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:16,085
right before her death.
751
00:28:16,129 --> 00:28:17,173
What is this? What was she...
752
00:28:17,217 --> 00:28:18,958
I think this photo
got her killed.
753
00:28:19,001 --> 00:28:20,916
Look closely.
754
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,526
Right there.
Look at the gloves.
755
00:28:22,570 --> 00:28:24,137
Now pull up the, uh, picture
that Rachel gave you.
756
00:28:24,180 --> 00:28:25,704
Rachel?Uh-huh.
757
00:28:25,747 --> 00:28:28,619
Wait a second. Are those
the same black gloves?
758
00:28:28,663 --> 00:28:29,795
Mm-hmm.
759
00:28:29,838 --> 00:28:31,884
Sydney got all excited
about gloves?
760
00:28:31,927 --> 00:28:34,147
Because gloves don't leave
fingerprints on water bottles.
761
00:28:34,190 --> 00:28:36,192
And the real killer
put the poison in
762
00:28:36,236 --> 00:28:38,412
and never left a trace.
763
00:28:38,455 --> 00:28:40,153
Uh, where's that
security camera footage
764
00:28:40,196 --> 00:28:41,589
from the courthouse hallway?
765
00:28:42,677 --> 00:28:44,374
MARGARET:
Okay, Rachel and Cole.
766
00:28:44,418 --> 00:28:45,811
Clearly no gloves.
767
00:28:45,854 --> 00:28:47,203
That eliminates them.Mm-hmm.
768
00:28:47,247 --> 00:28:48,727
LYLE:
Yes, but Lou, Amy and Blake,
769
00:28:48,770 --> 00:28:50,250
their hands aren't visible,
770
00:28:50,293 --> 00:28:52,295
which puts them
in the unknown category.
771
00:28:52,339 --> 00:28:54,515
TODD:
Hey-hey, look-look,
freeze, freeze.
772
00:28:54,558 --> 00:28:56,430
Stop. Zoom in.
773
00:28:56,473 --> 00:28:59,085
Gloves. Black gloves.
774
00:28:59,128 --> 00:29:01,174
We have been trying to reach
Zena for three days now.
775
00:29:01,217 --> 00:29:03,872
I'm gonna see if Francey
has located her yet.
776
00:29:03,916 --> 00:29:05,091
Zena. I knew it.
777
00:29:05,134 --> 00:29:06,309
You said it was the bee.
778
00:29:07,963 --> 00:29:10,705
Zena is in Madagascar.
779
00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:12,228
Madagascar?
Mm-hmm.
780
00:29:12,272 --> 00:29:14,840
Madagascar, "the island
off of Africa" Madagascar?
781
00:29:14,883 --> 00:29:17,277
Her sister confirmed she left
yesterday on a 6:00 a.m. flight.
782
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,018
And Sydney was murdered
the night before.
783
00:29:19,061 --> 00:29:20,671
Someone wanted to get
out of town fast.
784
00:29:20,715 --> 00:29:22,891
To a country that has
no extradition policy
785
00:29:22,935 --> 00:29:24,545
with the U.S.Exactly.
786
00:29:24,588 --> 00:29:26,721
By the way,
your sister's here again.
787
00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:27,940
She's waiting for you.
788
00:29:36,252 --> 00:29:38,037
[exhales]
789
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,040
That wasn't your story to tell.
790
00:29:43,172 --> 00:29:45,871
All right, okay.
I know. I'm sorry.
791
00:29:45,914 --> 00:29:49,570
I just assumed
that they already knew.
792
00:29:49,613 --> 00:29:51,093
I mean, how...It's my family.
793
00:29:51,137 --> 00:29:54,053
My children. My story.
794
00:29:56,882 --> 00:29:59,232
But you were planning
on telling them someday.
795
00:29:59,275 --> 00:30:00,494
Right?
796
00:30:00,537 --> 00:30:03,323
Weren't you?
797
00:30:03,366 --> 00:30:04,759
Margaret.
798
00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:06,369
They're all in their 30s now.
799
00:30:06,413 --> 00:30:08,197
Isn't Lawrence turning 40 soon?
800
00:30:08,241 --> 00:30:09,503
Isn't it time?
801
00:30:09,546 --> 00:30:10,939
[moans]
802
00:30:16,945 --> 00:30:21,689
They should really hear it--
what really happened-- from you.
803
00:30:23,256 --> 00:30:25,954
I don't know.
Patty, I-I don't know.
804
00:30:33,657 --> 00:30:35,746
Oh-- Did-did you want
Mom's ring back?
805
00:30:35,790 --> 00:30:38,053
[laughs]:
No. No. No.
806
00:30:38,097 --> 00:30:39,750
You keep it.
807
00:30:41,752 --> 00:30:43,145
It makes your hand
look enormous.
808
00:30:48,716 --> 00:30:50,413
[sighs]
809
00:30:54,504 --> 00:30:58,682
I just can't believe
this is happening.
810
00:30:58,726 --> 00:31:01,729
I know, but we're on it.
811
00:31:01,772 --> 00:31:03,949
Do you have any leads?Oh, I can't really
talk to you...
812
00:31:03,992 --> 00:31:06,690
Todd, come on. This is my case.
813
00:31:06,734 --> 00:31:07,866
You're actually a witness
on ourcase.
814
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:08,910
Are you really gonna
be like that?
815
00:31:08,954 --> 00:31:10,999
Like what?Just tell me,
816
00:31:11,043 --> 00:31:12,218
do they think that Amy did it?
817
00:31:12,261 --> 00:31:13,567
The second murder?
818
00:31:13,610 --> 00:31:15,961
Uh, no.
819
00:31:16,004 --> 00:31:18,659
And she does have an alibi
for last night. Ish. So...
820
00:31:18,702 --> 00:31:21,270
Ish? Is it a solid alibi?
821
00:31:21,314 --> 00:31:24,665
Uh, yeah. I mean, pretty solid.
822
00:31:24,708 --> 00:31:26,667
She was with me
823
00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:27,929
when I found out, and...
824
00:31:27,973 --> 00:31:29,888
Well, why were you
with her at that hour?
825
00:31:31,541 --> 00:31:33,413
Oh, my God. Todd.
826
00:31:33,456 --> 00:31:35,850
What?She is your client.
That is highly unethical.
827
00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:37,330
You violated
a whole string of...
828
00:31:37,373 --> 00:31:40,028
Uh, I don't think you get
to talk to me about ethics.
829
00:31:40,072 --> 00:31:41,247
Is it ethical for you to kiss me
830
00:31:41,290 --> 00:31:42,422
and then spend two weeks
gaslighting me
831
00:31:42,465 --> 00:31:43,727
into thinking
it never happened, Susan?
832
00:31:43,771 --> 00:31:45,991
That is not what I did.
833
00:31:46,034 --> 00:31:47,775
Is it not?
834
00:31:47,818 --> 00:31:49,951
MARGARET [distant]:
Todd! Todd!
835
00:31:49,995 --> 00:31:51,344
Gaslighting.MARGARET: Todd!
836
00:31:51,387 --> 00:31:53,999
Todd. Todd, good news.
837
00:31:54,042 --> 00:31:55,739
Susan, where
are you going?
838
00:31:55,783 --> 00:31:57,741
Turn on the TV.
Turn on the TV. Todd!
839
00:31:57,785 --> 00:31:59,700
Oh, careful. Francey, careful.
840
00:31:59,743 --> 00:32:01,267
We've reached Zena.She's connecting right now
841
00:32:01,310 --> 00:32:03,878
on a video call
from Madagascar.
842
00:32:03,922 --> 00:32:06,098
Hi. Zena Mitchell?
I'm Margaret Wright.
843
00:32:06,141 --> 00:32:07,969
Uh, can you, can you hear me?
844
00:32:08,013 --> 00:32:09,797
Hi. Yes, I-I'm here.
845
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,713
Your assistant said you wanted
to talk about my gloves?
846
00:32:12,756 --> 00:32:15,542
Yes! Yes, yes, yes. The gloves,
the ones you wore to court.
847
00:32:15,585 --> 00:32:19,676
Uh... I think
I may have them with me.
848
00:32:23,158 --> 00:32:24,333
These gloves?
849
00:32:24,377 --> 00:32:26,640
Damn it. They're purple.
850
00:32:26,683 --> 00:32:27,989
Why are you in Madagascar?
851
00:32:28,033 --> 00:32:30,078
The jury was released.
852
00:32:30,122 --> 00:32:32,515
I'm volunteering
on a clean water project.MARGARET: Zena,
853
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:34,169
do you remember anything
854
00:32:34,213 --> 00:32:37,085
about black gloves
on any jury member?
855
00:32:37,129 --> 00:32:38,826
No, I-I don't think so.MARGARET: Darn it!
856
00:32:38,869 --> 00:32:40,306
Okay. Um, Zena.
857
00:32:40,349 --> 00:32:43,178
This is our juror's box.
858
00:32:43,222 --> 00:32:45,572
You were sitting
right next to the accused, Amy,
859
00:32:45,615 --> 00:32:47,748
who was right behind
the victim Irene.
860
00:32:47,791 --> 00:32:50,533
You must have seen something.
861
00:32:50,577 --> 00:32:53,319
Okay. Look.
862
00:32:53,362 --> 00:32:54,711
I'm you. Okay?
863
00:32:54,755 --> 00:32:57,671
And you were sitting right here.
864
00:32:57,714 --> 00:33:00,282
Okay? Uh, Todd, uh, sit down
in chair number nine.
865
00:33:00,326 --> 00:33:01,718
Wait, so I'm Irene? Really?
866
00:33:01,762 --> 00:33:04,025
I feel more like I'm more
of a Sal or even a Cole.
867
00:33:04,069 --> 00:33:06,767
Okay, yeah. Put the water bottle
under your chair and...
868
00:33:11,076 --> 00:33:12,207
Wait.
869
00:33:12,251 --> 00:33:14,166
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
870
00:33:16,733 --> 00:33:19,040
Zena.
871
00:33:19,084 --> 00:33:23,349
On the day that you came in,
you had to walk
872
00:33:23,392 --> 00:33:25,177
right past Amy's chair.
873
00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:27,222
Is there any chance
that you could have
874
00:33:27,266 --> 00:33:30,965
accidentally knocked
the water bottle over?
875
00:33:32,836 --> 00:33:34,621
Wait, I think I did
knock somebody's water over.
876
00:33:34,664 --> 00:33:37,624
It fell right in front of us,
but I picked it back up.
877
00:33:37,667 --> 00:33:38,538
Oh, my God.
878
00:33:38,581 --> 00:33:40,061
Okay, so Zena
879
00:33:40,105 --> 00:33:42,977
accidentally switched
the bottles?
880
00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:45,371
Amy's not the killer.MARGARET:
No.
881
00:33:45,414 --> 00:33:48,983
Amy was the intended victim.
882
00:33:53,422 --> 00:33:54,728
Someone was trying to kill Amy.
883
00:33:54,771 --> 00:33:56,860
We've been looking
at these transcripts all wrong.
884
00:33:56,904 --> 00:33:58,732
Not Irene?
Nope. Amy.
885
00:33:58,775 --> 00:33:59,950
Hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on, hold on.
886
00:33:59,994 --> 00:34:03,084
At the very first start,
the first day...
887
00:34:03,128 --> 00:34:04,346
Um...
888
00:34:04,390 --> 00:34:06,348
Yes. Did we look back at this?
889
00:34:06,392 --> 00:34:08,481
The judge asks to speak
to "the two jurors
890
00:34:08,524 --> 00:34:11,223
who have vacation plans
that would interrupt jury duty."
891
00:34:11,266 --> 00:34:15,705
Zena, Madagascar,
and... Lou, the bird man.
892
00:34:15,748 --> 00:34:17,011
They were both
trying to get out of...
893
00:34:17,054 --> 00:34:18,795
No, no, no. 'Cause r-remember,
894
00:34:18,839 --> 00:34:21,275
Lou said that he was
"Thrilled to be here"
895
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,061
and "Happy to serve." See?
896
00:34:23,103 --> 00:34:24,453
Why did he change his mind?
897
00:34:24,496 --> 00:34:26,411
Because Lou was juror number 12.
898
00:34:26,455 --> 00:34:27,848
The last one questioned.
899
00:34:27,891 --> 00:34:30,851
Before voir dire, he says
he has a planned vacation.
900
00:34:30,893 --> 00:34:34,333
He wants out, then after
everybody else has spoken,
901
00:34:34,376 --> 00:34:37,292
suddenly, he says no,
he wants to be there.
902
00:34:37,335 --> 00:34:40,600
Somebody before him
903
00:34:40,643 --> 00:34:42,123
must have said something
904
00:34:42,167 --> 00:34:43,297
to change his mind.
905
00:34:43,342 --> 00:34:45,170
Amy.
906
00:34:45,213 --> 00:34:47,259
We need to talk
to Lou again now.
907
00:34:47,302 --> 00:34:49,130
TODD:
Lou doesn't seem
like some maniac
908
00:34:49,174 --> 00:34:51,697
or a deranged serial killer,
did he?
909
00:34:51,741 --> 00:34:53,438
I mean, would he kill
two people?
910
00:34:53,482 --> 00:34:54,657
[doorbell rings]
911
00:34:56,659 --> 00:34:58,226
Todd.Hmm?
912
00:34:58,270 --> 00:34:59,967
Look. It's the
same table
913
00:35:00,010 --> 00:35:03,710
and chair as from the photo
that Sydney sent us.
914
00:35:03,753 --> 00:35:07,017
She was here.
I don't see the gloves, though.
915
00:35:07,061 --> 00:35:09,846
Okay, so,
maybe Lou is not a maniac.
916
00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:11,239
He's just scared.
917
00:35:11,283 --> 00:35:13,285
He-He's a desperate man.
918
00:35:13,328 --> 00:35:15,504
And he found Sydney
919
00:35:15,548 --> 00:35:17,811
snooping around outside
his house and he panicked,
920
00:35:17,854 --> 00:35:19,247
because he knew
she was on to him.
921
00:35:19,291 --> 00:35:21,336
And then...Kersplitzo.
922
00:35:21,380 --> 00:35:23,033
[snaps fingers]
923
00:35:23,077 --> 00:35:25,427
TODD: That's weird.
Look at that photo right there.
924
00:35:25,471 --> 00:35:27,168
Mom. 2008.
925
00:35:27,212 --> 00:35:31,390
That is the year that Amy
was crowned Rose Festival Queen.
926
00:35:31,433 --> 00:35:33,392
Who is that?
927
00:35:33,435 --> 00:35:34,871
AMY:
That's Rhonda Zane.
928
00:35:34,915 --> 00:35:36,656
And that's me
s-standing next to her.
929
00:35:36,699 --> 00:35:38,179
That's my elbow right there.
930
00:35:38,223 --> 00:35:40,181
Yeah, we were vying for, um,
931
00:35:40,225 --> 00:35:42,705
Rose Festival Princess
at Jefferson that year.
932
00:35:42,749 --> 00:35:45,621
Wait, Rhonda Zane?
But Lou's last name is Briggs.
933
00:35:45,665 --> 00:35:46,970
She had her mom's last name.
934
00:35:47,014 --> 00:35:48,668
So, you and Rhonda were friends?
935
00:35:48,711 --> 00:35:51,061
Mm, more like rivals.
936
00:35:51,105 --> 00:35:53,194
I never stood a chance
against her, though.
937
00:35:53,238 --> 00:35:56,110
She was beautiful,
smart, talented.
938
00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:58,199
Whole package.
But, um...
939
00:35:58,243 --> 00:36:01,550
then something terrible
happened to her
940
00:36:01,594 --> 00:36:03,378
right before the festival.
941
00:36:03,422 --> 00:36:05,075
Someone...
942
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:07,208
threw bleach in her face.
943
00:36:07,252 --> 00:36:09,471
Oh, whoa. That's crazy.Who would do that?
944
00:36:09,515 --> 00:36:10,733
They never caught the guy.
945
00:36:10,777 --> 00:36:12,344
But, you know, poor Rhonda
946
00:36:12,387 --> 00:36:15,260
dropped out of the running,
disappeared.
947
00:36:15,303 --> 00:36:18,785
And I heard, a few years later,
that she...
948
00:36:18,828 --> 00:36:20,395
she took her own life.
949
00:36:20,439 --> 00:36:22,136
Oh, that's awful. Poor girl.
950
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:25,313
So, Lou was seeking revenge.
951
00:36:25,357 --> 00:36:27,750
Revenge? Against who?
952
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:31,928
Me?
953
00:36:31,972 --> 00:36:34,496
M... Lou was trying to kill me?
954
00:36:34,540 --> 00:36:36,019
Why? I was
always nice
955
00:36:36,063 --> 00:36:37,804
to Rhonda, a-and I would never
956
00:36:37,847 --> 00:36:39,458
throw bleach in someone's face.
957
00:36:39,501 --> 00:36:40,937
I would never...
958
00:36:42,678 --> 00:36:44,767
Oh, my God.
959
00:36:44,811 --> 00:36:48,684
Wait, that-that couldn't
have been... [stammers]
960
00:36:48,728 --> 00:36:52,122
My mom was always competitive,
but she never w-would have...
961
00:36:52,166 --> 00:36:55,517
She wasn't that bad. She...
962
00:36:55,561 --> 00:36:57,998
Um...Do you think it's possible
that-that she...?
963
00:36:58,041 --> 00:36:59,129
So Rhonda would be
out of the running
964
00:36:59,173 --> 00:37:00,522
and you could be Queen.
965
00:37:00,566 --> 00:37:02,350
Lou blamed Amy
for his daughter's death.
966
00:37:02,394 --> 00:37:03,786
Now, when he found out
967
00:37:03,830 --> 00:37:05,266
that it was her
on the jury...He snapped.
968
00:37:05,310 --> 00:37:07,442
A crime of passion.
Righting a wrong from the past.
969
00:37:07,486 --> 00:37:09,357
And he had to do it...
970
00:37:09,401 --> 00:37:11,751
Before Amy left town
for law school.
971
00:37:11,794 --> 00:37:13,318
Motive, opportunity.
972
00:37:13,361 --> 00:37:15,102
Right? And page 37:
973
00:37:15,145 --> 00:37:17,931
Lou "volunteers at the Rose
Gardens in Washington Park."
974
00:37:17,974 --> 00:37:20,107
Access to fertilizer
for the poison.
975
00:37:20,150 --> 00:37:22,152
We have to call the police.
We have to find Lou.
976
00:37:22,196 --> 00:37:24,633
Wait. It's Thursday.Thursday?
977
00:37:24,677 --> 00:37:26,766
BOTH:
"I have dinner
every Thursday night
978
00:37:26,809 --> 00:37:28,289
at Via Tevere Pizzeria."
979
00:37:28,333 --> 00:37:29,769
He loves "a pizza special"!
980
00:37:30,987 --> 00:37:32,206
Stay here. Be right back.
981
00:37:32,250 --> 00:37:33,860
Okay.
982
00:37:38,343 --> 00:37:40,258
There he is, there he is.
It's him.
983
00:37:40,301 --> 00:37:41,389
MARGARET:
Oh, that's him right there.
984
00:37:42,956 --> 00:37:44,436
Patty, w-what
are you doing here?
985
00:37:44,479 --> 00:37:46,394
You are on a date
with a murderer.
986
00:37:46,438 --> 00:37:48,309
No. Again?
987
00:37:48,353 --> 00:37:50,703
Lou Briggs, you're under arrest
for the murders of Irene Kimpton
988
00:37:50,746 --> 00:37:52,574
and Sydney Millcross.No, no, no, no.
989
00:37:52,618 --> 00:37:54,184
LOU:
You should be arresting
Amy Morelin.
990
00:37:54,228 --> 00:37:55,360
She's the one
that did it.
991
00:37:55,403 --> 00:37:56,883
Her and her mother, they...
992
00:37:56,926 --> 00:37:58,537
they destroyed my daughter.
993
00:37:58,580 --> 00:38:01,366
All over a stupid crown.
They killed her.
994
00:38:01,409 --> 00:38:03,281
What happened to your daughter
is tragic.
995
00:38:03,324 --> 00:38:05,108
But Amy had nothing
to do with it.
996
00:38:05,152 --> 00:38:06,545
And I spoke to her
mother in Spokane.
997
00:38:06,588 --> 00:38:08,938
She's willing to take
a lie detector test.
998
00:38:08,982 --> 00:38:11,027
Neither of them
had anything to do
999
00:38:11,071 --> 00:38:12,681
with what happened to Rhonda.
1000
00:38:12,725 --> 00:38:14,335
You killed two people
1001
00:38:14,379 --> 00:38:15,641
for nothing.
1002
00:38:15,684 --> 00:38:16,903
Let's go.
1003
00:38:18,383 --> 00:38:20,167
Juror number 12.
1004
00:38:20,210 --> 00:38:22,169
I knew it.
1005
00:38:22,212 --> 00:38:24,302
Ladies and gentlemen
of the jury,
1006
00:38:24,345 --> 00:38:27,870
Total Eclipse Shampoo
and their lawyers
1007
00:38:27,914 --> 00:38:29,481
would have you believe
that their product
1008
00:38:29,524 --> 00:38:31,918
is completely harmless.
1009
00:38:31,961 --> 00:38:34,486
But they are gaslighting you.
1010
00:38:34,529 --> 00:38:38,751
Denying what they know to be
true to protect themselves.
1011
00:38:38,794 --> 00:38:40,013
[coughing]
1012
00:38:43,973 --> 00:38:45,932
[laughs softly]
1013
00:38:45,975 --> 00:38:48,195
Thank you for being here today,
1014
00:38:48,238 --> 00:38:53,418
to help me help my client
bring the truth to light.
1015
00:38:54,506 --> 00:38:55,855
AMY:
Poor Rhonda.
1016
00:38:55,898 --> 00:38:57,944
Yeah.And Irene.
1017
00:38:57,987 --> 00:38:59,772
And Sydney. Ugh.Yeah.
1018
00:38:59,815 --> 00:39:01,904
This whole thing
is just so awful.
1019
00:39:01,948 --> 00:39:04,167
I'm just relieved it wasn't you.
1020
00:39:04,211 --> 00:39:06,344
The killer, I mean.Yeah. For a minute,
1021
00:39:06,387 --> 00:39:07,954
I thought it might have
actually been you.
1022
00:39:07,997 --> 00:39:10,348
Me? What?
I wasn't even on the jury.
1023
00:39:10,391 --> 00:39:12,045
[laughs]
Well, you're very shifty,
1024
00:39:12,088 --> 00:39:13,612
and you were kind of
lurking around.What?
1025
00:39:13,655 --> 00:39:15,788
I wasn't lurking.
1026
00:39:17,746 --> 00:39:22,316
What do you think
about a second date?
1027
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,188
Outside of my house.Um...
1028
00:39:25,232 --> 00:39:28,104
And murder-free.
1029
00:39:28,148 --> 00:39:31,369
Murder-free?
Mm.
1030
00:39:31,412 --> 00:39:34,894
I mean, what would we
even talk about?
1031
00:39:58,570 --> 00:40:00,354
How many times
did we go to France?
1032
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:01,747
I don't remember that.
1033
00:40:01,790 --> 00:40:03,226
ALLISON:
You have to
remember this place,
1034
00:40:03,270 --> 00:40:05,925
because you rememb-- you
insisted on ordering in French.
1035
00:40:05,968 --> 00:40:08,406
[door slides closed]Hi.
1036
00:40:11,974 --> 00:40:13,367
Um...
1037
00:40:15,064 --> 00:40:16,936
MARGARET:
When I gave your father
that watch,
1038
00:40:16,979 --> 00:40:18,459
I meant that.
1039
00:40:18,503 --> 00:40:19,808
Forever.
1040
00:40:19,852 --> 00:40:22,158
But you were gonna leave him.
1041
00:40:22,202 --> 00:40:23,595
Yes.
1042
00:40:26,380 --> 00:40:29,209
I overheard you guys fighting.
1043
00:40:29,252 --> 00:40:31,429
I mean, from my room,
I could hear everything, and...
1044
00:40:33,474 --> 00:40:35,433
...I know that he was mad at you
because he thought
1045
00:40:35,476 --> 00:40:39,437
that you were lying to him
about something.
1046
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,482
I had rented an apartment.
1047
00:40:41,526 --> 00:40:44,398
And I didn't
want him to know.
1048
00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:46,356
Patty was gonna help me leave.
1049
00:40:47,619 --> 00:40:49,142
Mom, why didn't you ever
tell us any of this?
1050
00:40:49,185 --> 00:40:53,146
Because I wanted...
1051
00:40:53,189 --> 00:40:56,932
I... thought
I had to protect you.
1052
00:40:58,064 --> 00:40:59,892
After your father died,
1053
00:40:59,935 --> 00:41:02,764
I didn't want to break
your hearts all over again.
1054
00:41:02,808 --> 00:41:06,768
Yeah, but I had no idea
you were so unhappy.
1055
00:41:06,812 --> 00:41:09,467
Then we did our job as parents.
1056
00:41:13,819 --> 00:41:16,648
Oswald was a wonderful father.
1057
00:41:18,650 --> 00:41:21,479
But he wasn't
a very good husband.
1058
00:41:21,522 --> 00:41:25,221
It became clear that
he didn't appreciate me
1059
00:41:25,265 --> 00:41:28,398
or support my
career goals.
1060
00:41:28,442 --> 00:41:31,750
And I-I was unhappy.
I was frustrated.
1061
00:41:31,793 --> 00:41:33,882
And I wanted more.
1062
00:41:35,884 --> 00:41:41,586
Over time, he became emotionally
and verbally abusive.
1063
00:41:44,153 --> 00:41:46,721
And I had to fight.
1064
00:41:46,765 --> 00:41:47,940
For me.
1065
00:41:47,983 --> 00:41:50,638
For myself.
1066
00:41:50,682 --> 00:41:52,597
I didn't know
if I should tell you.
1067
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,339
I-I didn't know
if I hadto tell you.
1068
00:41:56,383 --> 00:41:58,037
I didn't know what to do.
1069
00:41:59,604 --> 00:42:02,998
I mean, it's really weird
to think about him,
1070
00:42:03,042 --> 00:42:05,392
and you, like this.
1071
00:42:05,435 --> 00:42:08,221
I know.
1072
00:42:09,831 --> 00:42:12,617
So, uh, y-you didn't leave him,
1073
00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:14,706
of y-you didn't
actually do it because...
1074
00:42:14,749 --> 00:42:16,882
Because I didn't have to.
1075
00:42:17,926 --> 00:42:19,537
Fate intervened.
1076
00:42:31,766 --> 00:42:33,725
Chuck.
1077
00:42:38,251 --> 00:42:39,644
We need...
1078
00:42:41,646 --> 00:42:43,778
We have to talk.
1079
00:42:55,398 --> 00:42:59,359
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1081
00:43:03,406 --> 00:43:07,410
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