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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,360 There's a lot of freaked-out people coming to see me. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,400 Why would we trust you? 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,720 The government hasn't exactly been pro-gay in the past. 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,200 If you can form an alliance, bring your various groups together, 5 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,240 amalgamate and incorporate, 6 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:13,720 then we can get funding to you. 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Are you the ones who have been handing out condoms? 8 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,400 Yeah. We've been doing the same. 9 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,200 A few of us sex workers up on the streets at the Cross. 10 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,880 DAVID: Is this yours? 11 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,080 I haven't had sex with your boyfriend. He's a nice guy. 12 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:25,920 He's just... He's really not my type. 13 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,360 It's not a big deal, really. I spend so much time on my own now. 14 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:30,560 I got lonely. 15 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,320 You need to lighten up. 16 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,880 Please tell me how I should lighten up. 17 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,000 I am not gonna stay when I'm not wanted. 18 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,320 Fine. 19 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,360 REPORTER ON TV: It has been reported today 20 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,440 that three babies have died of AIDS in Queensland 21 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:48,000 after receiving contaminated blood donations from the same donor, 22 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,240 a homosexual man. 23 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,560 (TENSE MUSIC) 24 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,840 'Gay Blood Fear As 3 Babies Die'. 25 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:15,600 'Hawke Blamed'. 26 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,160 'Blood On Their Hands'. 27 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,680 'The Gay Crisis'. 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,320 Have you seen this? "Die, you deviant"? 29 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:27,880 I have "Donor walks free" here somewhere. 30 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,440 What do we know about what happened to these babies? 31 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,920 The first death was in February. 32 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:34,600 February. That's... Nine months, yes. 33 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,400 But this is the first we've heard about it. 34 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,800 There's another seriously ill at Brisbane Mater Hospital. 35 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,160 How'd it happen? 36 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,040 They traced the blood to donations made by a single man 37 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,800 who's gay and a regular donor. 38 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,120 Did he know when he donated blood that he had the virus? 39 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,240 No. He found out three days ago that he has HIV. 40 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,240 So, he's had a full 72 hours to process it 41 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,320 before newspapers started telling him to die. 42 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,760 We can't let this tragedy become a political issue, 43 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,000 whatever the intentions were behind the timing of all this. 44 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,000 Absolutely. 45 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,120 We need to make sure 46 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,960 our parliamentary liaison committee remains united. 47 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,320 I'll round them up. 48 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,520 I'm, uh, guessing you'd like to speak to the Queensland Health Minister? 49 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,120 I definitely have things I'd like to say to him. 50 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,920 The parliamentary liaison group. 51 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:23,640 Roland, National Party. 52 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:25,600 Been in Canberra a long time. 53 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,400 Loved by his constituents, tolerated by his party leader. 54 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,880 Rather short notice, wouldn't you say, Jeremy? 55 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,240 Right. 56 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,640 Well, it's good to see you all here. 57 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:44,000 Let me begin by first saying what's happened in Queensland is a tragedy. 58 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,200 We came together as a group at the beginning of the AIDS crisis 59 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,480 so that we could step through this as a united parliament. 60 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,720 I'm hoping... What does the Prime Minister say? 61 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,760 Lisa, Australian Democrats. 62 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,640 Here to keep the bastards honest. Their words, not ours. 63 00:02:59,640 --> 00:03:01,520 The Prime Minister is heartbroken 64 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,760 as we all are at the loss of young lives. 65 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,720 And he's not going to take any political bait thrown at him. 66 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,000 He's going to rise above it. Good. 67 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,720 But there's more. David? 68 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,480 The Queensland Government has pushed through new legislation. 69 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,280 Two years jail and fines of up to $10,000 for donating blood 70 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:23,880 if you're in a high-risk group. 71 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,000 So, high-risk being...? 72 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,560 IV drug users, sex workers and gay men with multiple partners. 73 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:29,720 Bloody Queensland. 74 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,400 Hang on, hang on. It's not everyone. 75 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,440 The Health Minister, yes, he's not your ally, 76 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,160 and I've read some ludicrous comments 77 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,480 from the Queensland Premier, but there are other... 78 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:43,000 Did you know this was coming? I did not know this was coming. 79 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,040 My party is not a hive mind 80 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,360 and I don't appreciate being spoken to that way, Jeremy. 81 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,680 I apologise. 82 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,280 The leader of your party - not just anyone - 83 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,800 the leader said, "If it wasn't for the promotion of homosexuality 84 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,360 "as a norm by the Labor..." 85 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,600 I know what he said. It's appalling. Lisa, I don't think that we need... 86 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,720 And some choice stuff about the traditional families. 87 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,360 I've seen commentary from the public 88 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,240 recommending the death penalty for gay men. 89 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,560 Let's just acknowledge that the loss of children 90 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,000 has raised a spike of animosity towards the Labor Party 91 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,480 and gay men in particular. 92 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,800 Some members of my party want to sabotage things, it's true. 93 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,400 Are you gonna say that while you're campaigning? 94 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,160 Do you mean when we win? No! Enough! 95 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,040 We are not going to talk about this as a way to score points. 96 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,320 Babies in Queensland who died 97 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,200 and the one who's still clinging to life, 98 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,200 it wasn't because anyone was gay 99 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,400 or because of anything we did or did not do. 100 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,600 They contracted an infection. 101 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,680 In this room, we are working together 102 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,640 to stop the spread of that infection. 103 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,320 Our only enemy is the infection. 104 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,880 We came together in a spirit of decency, 105 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,440 representing all the different parties. 106 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,640 Let's not allow this moment to damage the trust. 107 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,240 You're all still here. I'll take that as a good sign. 108 00:05:01,840 --> 00:05:04,160 (POP MUSIC) 109 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,720 PAUL: So, where are you living these days? 110 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,240 St Peters, two blocks from my parents. 111 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,520 (LAUGHS) You're joking! Can you believe it? 112 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,240 Oh, I spent so long trying to escape, 113 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,720 trying to be someone else, 114 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,960 but I'm turning more and more into my dad every day. 115 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,840 You patched things up, then? 116 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:30,280 Sort of. 117 00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:31,600 You happy? 118 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:34,320 I think I am. 119 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,080 Well, here's to old friends. 120 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,560 Sorry to barge in on your date. 121 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,120 Mm. It's not a date. 122 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,160 OK. Do you mind? My mates at the bar said that you're a doctor. 123 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,240 Can I ask you a couple of questions? I'll be five minutes, tops. 124 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,200 Take all the time you need. 125 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,920 I'm gonna go get us another round. 126 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:00,760 (CLEARS THROAT) 127 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,320 Well, I wouldn't usually do a consultation at the pub, 128 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,320 but seeing as though you're already here... 129 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,280 I heard that there's a test for AIDS now. Is it reliable? 130 00:06:09,280 --> 00:06:11,440 It's not perfect, but the test should identify 131 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,120 if you're carrying the HIV antibodies in your blood. 132 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,760 OK. Do you think I should get it? Well, it depends. 133 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,360 Have you had any unprotected sex or shared a needle? 134 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:20,880 What, in my life? 135 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,040 In the last three years. Of course. 136 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:26,000 Then you could be at risk. But I always use a condom now. 137 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,560 The incubation period of the virus could be up to 10 years, 138 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,600 so you could have contracted it any time since then. 139 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,600 Everyone's telling me not to get it. 140 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,760 Like, what's the point of knowing if you're gonna die? 141 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,360 But you wanna know? 142 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,080 Yes. 143 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,080 OK, well, if you want the test, 144 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,560 you have to give your name and address. 145 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:44,880 It's a legal requirement, 146 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,280 but just between you and me, I won't be asking any questions 147 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:50,560 if you tell me that your name is Neville Wran or Ned Kelly. 148 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,200 So, have a think about whether you're really and truly prepared 149 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,800 to know the result, because if it is positive, 150 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,400 that is not something you can un-know. 151 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,040 We've started offering the new AIDS tests this week. 152 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,360 We just have to hope that people actually want to know their status. 153 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,000 DAVID: Well, if they don't, we'll end up no better than the US. 154 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,760 Some people over there say 155 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,400 their government's turning a manageable problem 156 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,480 into a global pandemic. 157 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,800 Would you get tested? 158 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,240 I'm very low-risk. 159 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:28,800 I'm not. 160 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,080 Unlike you, I haven't been in 161 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,280 a committed monogamous relationship for years 162 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,280 and I've been booted out of Club 80 at sunrise 163 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,640 more times than I can remember. 164 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:36,640 (LAUGHS) 165 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,560 I haven't been tested either. 166 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,280 Really? 167 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,880 How do you recommend something that you're not willing to do yourself? 168 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,200 Well, they rely on me to be strong. 169 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,960 I'm not sure I could be strong if I knew that I was positive. 170 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,040 I mean, it's not my place to tell you what to do, Paul, but... 171 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,080 ..I couldn't. 172 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,360 I mean, if I thought there was a chance, I... 173 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,600 I'm worried that my patients will stop coming 174 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,040 if they knew that I was sick. 175 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,960 It's not exactly rational, but who'd wanna see the dying doctor? 176 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,000 This is gonna sound completely paranoid, 177 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,680 but I'm worried that the results could be seen by someone else. 178 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,120 I've been telling people to give false names. 179 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,240 Maybe you should take your own advice. 180 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,520 Hm. I could always be Oscar Wilde. 181 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,240 (OMINOUS MUSIC) 182 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:41,240 Let's get a bucket. 183 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:50,120 SONG: # Ain't nobody gonna steal this heart away 184 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,160 # When the war is over 185 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,640 # Got to get away 186 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,200 # Pack my bags to no place 187 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,160 # No time, no day 188 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:20,520 # You and I had our sights set on something 189 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:25,960 # Hope this doesn't mean our days are numbered 190 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,720 # I've got plans 191 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:33,000 # For more than a wanted man 192 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:41,760 # All around this chaos and madness 193 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:46,960 # Can't help feeling nothing more than sadness 194 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,280 # Only choice to face it 195 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,360 # The best I can 196 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:03,840 # Ain't nobody gonna steal this heart away 197 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:14,360 # Ain't nobody gonna steal this heart away 198 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:25,040 # Ain't nobody gonna steal this heart away... # 199 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,520 Morning! I'm making breakfast. 200 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,080 Um, are you hungry? Did I wake you? There's loads. 201 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:37,920 Sorry. Is this a problem? (EXHALES AWKWARDLY) 202 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,640 I mean, do you want me to leave? 203 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,080 It's fine. 204 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,920 I don't use milk. I just use butter. 205 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,000 (SIGHS) 206 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:48,600 Let me get that out of your way. 207 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,480 I think I've seen your work before on a flyer. Could that be right? 208 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:01,800 Some friends, um, asked me to draw some pictures for them. 209 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,520 I mean, that's not... That's not why I do it. 210 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,360 It's my, um, tether, making things. Is that a word, 'tether'? 211 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,080 Like, the thing that keeps you from tipping over the edge. 212 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,440 Is that a tether? Tether, yes. 213 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,080 You know, 'cause otherwise... 214 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,840 The world needs beautiful things right now. 215 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,120 Yes, but it's also a political statement. 216 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,360 I mean, the flyer you've drawn 217 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,200 will have a greater impact than anything I do. 218 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,720 As if. You're actually making a difference. 219 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,680 I have to watch everything I say in Canberra, 220 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:32,240 force myself to keep my mouth shut all the time. 221 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,000 I could not do it. 222 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,720 We all do what we have to to survive. 223 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:42,720 I gave you a hard time about the watch thing. 224 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,360 It's forgotten. 225 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,600 I don't know if I'm meant to tell you this, um, 226 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,720 but Gabe has moved to Newtown. 227 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,280 He's staying with Greg and Phil. 228 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,080 Just promise me that you're not gonna... 229 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,600 I'm not gonna stalk him, don't worry. 230 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,640 Thank you...for breakfast. 231 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,400 Mm. I'm glad you're here. 232 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,200 You might change your mind once you've actually tasted this. 233 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:13,400 (LAUGHS) 234 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,240 Oh! Never mind. 235 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,600 (SIGHS) 236 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,480 Thank you! 237 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,240 Miss, I, um, 238 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,840 I think I saw you on the weekend, 239 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,640 uh, at a bar... 240 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:34,760 ..with your girlfriend? 241 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,880 I'm going to pretend that you didn't just say that you were at a bar. 242 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,160 I'm not much of a bar-goer. Must have been someone else. 243 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,760 Nah, I'm pretty sure it was you. 244 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,920 Well, I'm pretty sure that I don't have a girlfriend, so, thank you. 245 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,760 I'm not gonna tell anyone. 246 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,800 I'm sorry. I just... I, um... 247 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,800 I didn't know who else I could talk to. 248 00:12:58,440 --> 00:12:59,880 You can talk to me. 249 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,200 Um, my parents reckon that all gay guys get AIDS and they die. 250 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,200 That's not true. I don't wanna die. 251 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:11,240 Are you having sex? I'm too scared. 252 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,160 But you want to. 253 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,360 If you are going to have sex, you need to use a condom, OK? 254 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,280 Every time. That is how you stay safe. 255 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,640 If you can't afford any, 256 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,800 they actually hand them out at the bars. 257 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:27,880 Yeah, uh, I took a couple. 258 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:28,880 Actually... 259 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,360 ..this number here is an information line 260 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,560 and they will be able to help you with this stuff. 261 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,640 I know things are really hard and you can't see a future 262 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,640 and for some of us, like you and like me, 263 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,600 we have to hide ourselves away, 264 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,000 but that won't always be the case. 265 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,120 You are going to meet the most amazing people. 266 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,080 You're gonna make your own version of family 267 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,440 and they are going to love you for you. 268 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,360 You're not alone and you need to hold onto that, OK? 269 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,360 Sterile water, swab, syringe, 270 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,160 condom, lube, pamphlet, 271 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,880 um, rubber band and you've got yourself a safe injecting kit. 272 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,520 Why the condom? 273 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,880 Well, when people get high, they sometimes get horny. 274 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,360 If the condom's there, it's easier for them to be safe. 275 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,200 So, you never used? No. 276 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,640 Yeah, me neither. 277 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,360 I saw what it did to my friends 278 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,840 and I met Bryan, who had three kids. 279 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,040 Being a stepmum of three really keeps you out of trouble. 280 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,440 Can I ask you a question? 281 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,480 How does sex work fit into the picture? 282 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,080 Well, pays a shitload. 283 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:53,120 And, you know, I work my own hours, which is good with the kids. 284 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,880 But I just started studying part-time, 285 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,040 so it's all a bit of a juggle right now, 286 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,680 especially with all this. 287 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,080 What are you studying? Law. (CHUCKLES) 288 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,800 It's ironic, right? Oh, what's that look for? 289 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,600 You think someone like me couldn't get into law? 290 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,920 No, not at all. (LAUGHS) Bullshit. 291 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,960 Oh, I'm just surprised, really. 292 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,920 You're very busy. It's a lot to take on. 293 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,240 Well, I can't do this forever 294 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:17,000 and tertiary education's free. 295 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,880 I paid 100 bucks to join the union. That's it. 296 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,720 Maybe I'll get there one day when we get through all of this. 297 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:24,720 Oh! 298 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,120 When they find a vaccine or a cure or... 299 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,840 Ah, I don't know. 300 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,360 So many people are getting sick now. I know. 301 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,320 And we've gone from agitators and educators 302 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,760 to caregivers overnight. 303 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,920 I have no idea what I'm doing. 304 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,400 No-one knows how to deal with any of this. 305 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,280 Just keep asking questions. 306 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:49,720 It's how I get by. 307 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:52,280 Come on. Let's go. 308 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,840 Oh, and I've just gotta stop somewhere before we hit the streets. 309 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,080 OK. 310 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,800 This is not what I expected. 311 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,800 You looking for whips and chains and dungeons? 312 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,720 No. That's the joint next door. 313 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,840 What? I'm kidding. 314 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,720 Oh. Can I have some more condoms? 315 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,360 Sure. 316 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,840 It's a constant battle. 317 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,240 I keep leaving them here and the boss keeps chucking them out. 318 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,040 I mean, honestly. 319 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,480 Uh... 320 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:37,160 Hey. Saw you come in. You're not on today. 321 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:38,960 Well, no flies on you. 322 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,520 What, are you giving tours now? 323 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,440 Well, it's certainly upped the numbers. 324 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,040 You're gonna make this place condom-only 325 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:46,560 or you're gonna go out of business. 326 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,080 Bullshit, I am. Don't be stupid. 327 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,080 Condoms are cheap. 328 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,880 Other places are starting to do it and if you don't get on board, 329 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:54,040 you're gonna be left behind. 330 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,880 Everyone is shit-scared of this thing and you should be too. 331 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:01,360 If one of my girls get it with the guys they see, we'll all be fucked. 332 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,240 (LINE RINGS) 333 00:17:10,360 --> 00:17:11,960 (CLEARS THROAT) 334 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,760 PHIL ON RECORDING: This is Phil. GREG ON RECORDING: I'm Greg. 335 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,400 And this is... GABE ON RECORDING: Gabe. 336 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,680 We're sorry we missed you. 337 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:24,040 We can't answer now, but leave your name and number right at this... 338 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,040 (BEEP!) 339 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,960 Uh, hello, Greg and Phil. It's David Westford. 340 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:30,960 A message for Gabe. 341 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:38,520 Uh, wanted to say hi and just make sure you're alright. 342 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:39,800 (KNOCK AT DOOR) 343 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,600 Uh, you have my number. 344 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,400 The guy from Fiedler Research is here. 345 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:47,560 (SIGHS) 346 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,440 Is everything OK? 347 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,160 Everything's fine. 348 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,240 I'll be right there. 349 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,760 (CLEARS THROAT) 350 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,760 Uh, David Westford. Michael Clement. 351 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,920 I think I know why I'm here. 352 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:12,240 Yes. 353 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,920 Uh, the way the media has been going crazy about AIDS 354 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,520 in the last few weeks makes us think... 355 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,080 Yeah, the papers, the shock jocks. It's a feeding frenzy. 356 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,800 Newspapers need to sell their product. 357 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,120 It's easier to do that with villains and victims. 358 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:28,200 Babies are innocent. Everyone's innocent. 359 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,080 It's a virus. 360 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,000 But if babies can get AIDS, then anyone can, 361 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,400 so we need to communicate with everyone directly. 362 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,480 What do the people know? What do they think and feel? 363 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,160 What do they want? Are they afraid to get tested? That sort of thing. 364 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,760 OK, so, what you're asking for is... 365 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:47,960 Everything. 366 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,480 Specific questions like... 367 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,840 Should we put condom vending machines into high schools? 368 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,600 Wow. Sure you want an answer to that? 369 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,000 Mm-hm. 370 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,480 No-one likes the idea of their teenager injecting heroin, 371 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,280 but when it comes to clean needles... 372 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:08,360 OK, so, um, "Do you think we should be doing everything 373 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:09,960 "to stop the spread of the infection?" 374 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:10,960 Right. 375 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,680 And maybe not, "Do you think we should be making it easier 376 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,240 "for your kids to shoot up?" 377 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,120 I think we're speaking the same language. 378 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:24,960 David. Tony. 379 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,640 You got a sec? Of course. 380 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,080 How, uh... How are things? 381 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,720 Why? 382 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,400 The press secretary got a phone call. 383 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,440 Yes? From a parliamentarian. 384 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:41,400 About you. 385 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,040 The Health Department? About you. About you personally. 386 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:48,600 He knows you're gay... 387 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,440 ..and he's planning on saying so in Parliament. 388 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,280 Why? He wants to embarrass you. 389 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,600 It would only be embarrassing if my sexual preference was a secret. 390 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,080 It's not. 391 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,920 (WHISPERS) Never has been. 392 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,520 And you should tell this parliamentarian 393 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,960 to move with the times. 394 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,240 Homosexuality has been decriminalised. 395 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,480 If anyone's gonna be embarrassed here, it's him. 396 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,480 But if he wants to cast the first stone... 397 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:28,600 (HANGS UP PHONE) We have a new problem. 398 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,400 Tell me it has nothing to do with Queensland. 399 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,240 It has everything to do with Queensland. 400 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,320 Look, our strategy relies on us 401 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,160 sending funds to the State governments. 402 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,280 Our friend, the Premier of Queensland, 403 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,720 is happy to take and spend money for the treatment of people 404 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,240 who already have HIV and AIDS, but... 405 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,760 Refuses to distribute funds for prevention and education. 406 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,200 On what grounds? 407 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,200 They don't believe the strategy will work. 408 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,440 Homosexuality is illegal in Queensland 409 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,200 and they refuse to fund immorality. 410 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,080 We've been getting requests from the current affairs programs, 411 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,120 haven't we? 412 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:07,640 Yes, but I don't like it. 413 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,000 Every day I stay silent is a day we lose control. 414 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,480 Let's wait for the polling. Every new infection is a failure. 415 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,520 Prevention is all we have, but now... 416 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,840 The aim is to keep politics out of it. 417 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,000 Going on TV only makes it more political. 418 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,440 Being drawn out is the mistake your enemies want you to make 419 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:24,800 in an election year. 420 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,920 I'm the Health Minister, but I don't control a single hospital. 421 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,400 Not a single nurse. 422 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,320 All I have is the decision about where to put the money. 423 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,760 But you can't... No, no, no. I won't hide. 424 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,360 Not when there are so many questions about what we're doing and why. 425 00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:39,560 I need to make our case. 426 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,080 I can reassure people, buy some time. 427 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,800 And if there's blowback, it needs to fall on me, 428 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,960 not on anyone else. 429 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,920 Hold my hand. 430 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,680 I hate hospitals. 431 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,480 Hello again, Deb. 432 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,120 Hey. How are you? Good. 433 00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:10,400 And you are? Michelle. 434 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,960 I'm Sister Robina. 435 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,520 What can I do for you today? 436 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,200 So many of our friends are getting sick. 437 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,320 Really sick. 438 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,000 And we're trying to help them, but we...don't know what we're doing. 439 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,840 We're just making it up as we go along. 440 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,560 Well, you're not the only ones. Would you like to see our new ward? 441 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,880 ('BREAK MY STRIDE' BY MATTHEW WILDER) 442 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,720 # Last night, I had the strangest dream... # 443 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,480 We're holding space for you and your community. 444 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,800 That doesn't mean that we've stopped our own work, of course, 445 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,640 but we're making space to allow you to do yours as best suits you. 446 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:52,640 Come on. 447 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,400 This is our new ward. 448 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,800 # Ain't nothin' gonna break my stride 449 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,720 # Nobody gonna slow me down 450 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,040 # Oh, no 451 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,600 # I got to keep on moving 452 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,880 # Ain't nothin' gonna break my stride 453 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,480 # I'm running and I won't touch ground 454 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,640 # Oh, no 455 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,160 # I got to keep on moving... # 456 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,400 Now, take your time. 457 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,200 Lift the front and fold it in on itself, 458 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,480 making sure the outside edges are on the outside 459 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,320 so the soiling stays on the inside. 460 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,000 How does this make you feel? 461 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,040 Exposed. 462 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:24,480 Ah, see, this is intimate, 463 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,920 so if we keep them talking, it's less embarrassing. 464 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,120 What football team do you go for? 465 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,880 # Ain't nothin' gonna break my stride 466 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,640 # Nobody gonna slow me down 467 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,800 # Oh, no 468 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,400 # I got to keep on moving 469 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,560 # Ain't nothin' gonna break my stride 470 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,400 # I'm running and I won't touch ground... # 471 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,560 (WHISPERS INDISTINCTLY) 472 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,800 (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 473 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,480 JEREMY: I could do 'Four Corners'. 474 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,080 It could be better to go to a commercial station. 475 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,320 Ratings. 476 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,640 '60 Minutes'? 477 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,160 Haven't had the conversation yet. 478 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:03,600 I want a solution to the problem in Queensland. 479 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,160 We could get lost in a constitutional argument 480 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:07,880 about State powers versus Federal. 481 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,880 The virus doesn't respect the Constitution. 482 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,400 I want a solution that works. They're blocking our funds. 483 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,400 I want our funds to get around their block. 484 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,720 If you'll allow me... 485 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,760 Mm. 486 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,440 There are people I know 487 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,240 who vehemently disagree with the way the Queensland Government is acting. 488 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,200 If you're looking for another legal way 489 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,080 to get that funding into Queensland, 490 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,240 I think they'd be delighted to help. 491 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:37,440 You might call them 'secret religious insurgents'. 492 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,200 Ready? Yes. 493 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,960 We're in Queensland, 494 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,400 home of the Big Pineapple and the Sisters of Benevolence. 495 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,240 (DOOR SHUTS) This is them right here. 496 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,840 Right. 497 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,680 TELLER: Can we help you? 498 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,720 Um, we would like to cash this cheque, please. 499 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,520 Of course. 500 00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:28,120 $7,000? 501 00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:31,320 Uh, and this is for cash? 502 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,840 Yes, please. 503 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,520 One moment, please. 504 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,520 Are we about to get arrested? 505 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,160 We're doing nothing wrong. 506 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,440 (COUNTING MACHINE RUMBLES) 507 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,840 Thank you. 508 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,680 (BOTH EXHALE) 509 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,960 Let's get this back to where it's needed. 510 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,440 So, do we approve of condoms now? 511 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,520 We...we don't approve of them for contraception, 512 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,240 but we do approve of them as a way to prevent disease. 513 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,320 (BOTH GIGGLE) 514 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,080 Hey. Heading home? To work. 515 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,720 Where's work? Surry Hills. 516 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,560 Oxford Street? Maybe. 517 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,880 Hey. What's the rush? 518 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,720 I'm a virgin. 519 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,520 Yeah, and I'm the Wizard of Oz. 520 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,720 Nice try, Dorothy. 521 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,480 (OMINOUS MUSIC) 522 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,680 (DOOR CLOSES) 523 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,840 (SIGHS) 524 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,560 You're not working tonight? Uh, serving drinks here instead. 525 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,800 Gin and tonic? Sure. 526 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,360 We have more skulls than before. 527 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,440 That is, uh, Lucy. 528 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,400 She was a Hollywood talent agent from the '30s 529 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,440 who was cryogenically frozen, but something went terribly wrong. 530 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,800 Voila. Thanks. 531 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,760 Hey. Wait. 532 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,680 What's going on with your face? Oh, it's nothing. 533 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,720 I wanna see. No, really. 534 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,160 I'm fine. 535 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,680 Hey. Hey. Let me see. 536 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,040 What... 537 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,480 You alright? 538 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,680 Let me. 539 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,680 Who did this? Doesn't matter. 540 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,160 I'm not gonna change who I am... 541 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,280 ..no matter what they do to me. 542 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,480 Good. 543 00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,960 (SIGHS) 544 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,240 At first only a problem among homosexual men, 545 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,560 with the deaths of babies after blood transfusions, 546 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,520 AIDS has spread into the blood supply, 547 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,920 prompting new fears about the threat to the wider community. 548 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,360 I'm joined by Jeremy Wilding, National Health Minister. 549 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:12,520 Mr Wilding, good evening. 550 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,120 Good evening, Trish. It's good to be here. 551 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,000 Why has the Commonwealth Government bowed to pressure 552 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,280 from radical homosexuals? 553 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,280 (WHISPERS) Oh, come on. 554 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,480 All of the evidence suggests that we will cope best with AIDS 555 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,160 by having a cooperative relationship 556 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:24,960 between government and the gay community. 557 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,360 Now, I know there's a lot of fear and paranoia out there. 558 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,120 But the fear is justified, isn't it, with no vaccine, no treatment? 559 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,200 Which is why we're doing everything we can, 560 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,480 funding research and working with the public. 561 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaking of the funding you're giving to community groups... 562 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,720 Yes. 563 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,920 ..we have some examples of how that money is being spent, 564 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,480 many of them too graphic to show on television, 565 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,880 but here are some of the less explicit ones. 566 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,960 By any standard, this is pornography. 567 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,200 (ALL CHEER) Alright! 568 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,080 Am I famous? I'm famous! Yes! You're famous! 569 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,120 (SCREAMS) 570 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,400 I'm not going to pretend that I don't find it confronting. I do. 571 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,960 What do you say to those who call this 'gay propaganda'? 572 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,040 Let me be clear. This is not gay propaganda. 573 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,600 It's a sophisticated approach to health education. 574 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,600 Graphic depictions of genitalia and sex? 575 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,200 (GROUP CHEERS AND WHOOPS) 576 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,560 Love it. More, please. 577 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,560 It's information. 578 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,880 We're putting funding into the hands of the people 579 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,040 being clobbered by the virus 580 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,640 so they can communicate amongst themselves. 581 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,960 I don't decide what they say to each other. They do. 582 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,520 With no oversight? We know what we're doing! 583 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,800 All the money is accounted for. 584 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,160 You have Condoman, I believe? Yes, I do think we have that one. 585 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,920 (GROUP CHEERS) Blackfellas leading the way. 586 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,720 (GROUP CHEERS) 587 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,480 Condoman was invented by members 588 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,520 of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities in Queensland. 589 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,240 It's a fantastic campaign, I fully endorse it and it works. 590 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,400 Is a Labor government running a gay agenda? 591 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,840 Our only agenda is public health. 592 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,240 What do you say to those people 593 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,400 who are calling for HIV-positive gay men to be quarantined? 594 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,800 CREW MEMBER: OK, everyone, we're clear. Thank you. 595 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,200 Alright, we'll reset for the next interview. 596 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,000 You were right. I shouldn't have done this. 597 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,440 No, I was wrong. 598 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,560 You were clear, you had empathy. 599 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,120 You sounded like you didn't want anyone to die. 600 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:11,840 It's exactly what people want to hear. 601 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,040 Hmm. 602 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,800 Well, let's just hope it pays off. 603 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,280 Congratulations on the election result. 604 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,200 You're still here. 605 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,520 Thank you. Yes. 606 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,920 Three more years to nail the strategy. 607 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,080 You said you wanted to know what people know, 608 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,360 what they think and feel and what they want. 609 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,160 Hold onto your ankles. 610 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,080 People are afraid. First, because of misinformation. 611 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,080 OK. 612 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,760 Plenty of people still think you can get AIDS from kissing. 613 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,480 A significant number of people believe or suspect 614 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,160 you can get it from a toilet seat or a telephone, 615 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,400 swimming pools, teacups, mosquitoes. 616 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,520 So, let's call that 'fear around transmission'. 617 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,160 Then there's the disinformation coming at people 618 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,600 from some of the more extreme commentators, 619 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,440 and what complicates that is half the people hate you 620 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,680 because you're the red team. 621 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,960 Exactly why we've been taking a multiparty approach. 622 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,000 Clearly, that message is yet to cut through. 623 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,160 Go on. 624 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,240 You said you wanted to know what people want, so here goes. 625 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,120 They want AIDS brought under control. 626 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,360 The people are not stupid or cruel, it turns out, 627 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,440 despite the fear and misinformation. 628 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,720 They want you to do whatever you have to do. 629 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,000 They want objective, truthful information 630 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,480 from someone that they trust. 631 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,960 I see. 632 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,160 Extrapolating from that, 633 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,800 they don't trust the people who have been delivering the message so far. 634 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,640 Yes. 635 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,520 We could always discuss this further over dinner, if you like. 636 00:33:54,320 --> 00:34:00,080 That's a kind offer, but I can't. I'm working late tonight. 637 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,520 And every night. 638 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,080 Good luck. 639 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,280 GREG ON RECORDING: Greg. PHIL ON RECORDING: And this is... 640 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,080 GABE ON RECORDING: Gabe. We're sorry we missed you. 641 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,960 We can't answer now, but leave your name and number right at this... 642 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,320 (BEEP!) 643 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,080 It's, uh... It's me. 644 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,800 It's David. Message for Gabe. 645 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,120 I wanna see you. 646 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,800 Can we meet? Um, when I'm in Sydney, obviously. 647 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,320 Catch up, have a drink. Something. Anything. 648 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,440 I just... 649 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,800 (SIGHS) You have my number. 650 00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,080 (WOMAN SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY OVER PHONE) 651 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,600 I'm sorry too. 652 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,200 Yes, it's flat-out. 653 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,800 Will you be back next weekend? 654 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,200 I'll definitely be back next weekend. 655 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,840 I miss you very much. 656 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,080 Well, I hope the kids feel the same. 657 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,600 (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 658 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,480 Uh, yes, of course. 659 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,320 OK. (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) 660 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,480 Hey, mister. BOY OVER PHONE: Hi, Dad. 661 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,960 I hear you're in the semifinals. That's great. 662 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,320 Are you gonna be there next Saturday? 663 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,880 Well, I'll try and swing it, see you thrash those Eagles. 664 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,680 Oh, great, you're early. 665 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,280 We just lost a set of hands, 666 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,240 so we could use your expert pamphlet-folding skills. 667 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,280 I don't have a job anymore. I resigned. 668 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,520 What? 669 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,400 I thought we agreed. 670 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,640 We did agree, Mish. 671 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,200 We need the money right now. You know that. 672 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,720 There's the new phone lines. 673 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:13,360 The power bill's not gonna pay itself. 674 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,960 Can you not do this? Can you not go all activist right now? 675 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,040 We have to have an income. Is that what I am? The income? 676 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,320 You get to occupy the moral high ground while I remain a wage slave? 677 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,480 Oh, this is bullshit. Really? 678 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,160 Because I know how much you like being the centre of the revolution. 679 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,320 People are relying on us. 680 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,920 We have both made a commitment together 681 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,640 to provide something reliable. 682 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,560 I know, but this is not about them and it is not about you. 683 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,360 This is fucked. 684 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,760 Do not walk away from me. 685 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,120 I'm not walking away. I'm walking over there to order us some drinks. 686 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,640 I left my job because I didn't want to give them the satisfaction 687 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,160 of firing me 688 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,120 and I just need a second where you show me that you give a shit. 689 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,000 You know I do. Yeah. 690 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,400 There's this kid at school. 691 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,240 He's gay, he's terrified and he asked for my help 692 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:16,680 and so I gave him one of our flyers. 693 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,880 And his parents were snooping through his room 694 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:23,320 and they found it and they demanded to know where he got it, 695 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,040 so, of course, the poor kid told them 696 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,600 and then they went straight to the principal. 697 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,680 And the private schools, they all talk to each other, 698 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,080 so, it's like my career is done and no-one's gonna touch me now. 699 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,400 I just really loved those kids. 700 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,480 Sweetheart. 701 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,520 We're gonna be OK. 702 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,320 I don't know. (SNIFFLES) 703 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,800 You do know. 704 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,000 The research is in. 705 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,760 People don't trust politicians, but they don't trust doctors either 706 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,560 like these ones here on the task force. 707 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,680 So, the Department's going to broaden its resources, 708 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,440 bring in new people. 709 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,080 Another advisory body? 710 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,600 How's that going to work? 711 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,440 It's a rapidly evolving situation, Mitchell. 712 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,080 You approached us as the leading haematologists 713 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,360 and epidemiologists and immunologists. 714 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:24,360 Yes. 715 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,240 We're talking about a viral agent, a multitude of diseases. 716 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:30,120 You have a handpicked stable of medical experts, 717 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,880 but you wanna get your advice somewhere else? 718 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,160 Mitchell, you are indispensable. 719 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,200 I need you all very much, 720 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,200 but we need to bring the rest of the community to the table, 721 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,080 so we're making the table bigger. 722 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,200 Who would be on this advisory group? 723 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,400 Uh, we'll invite representatives of the States, 724 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,600 the blood banks, the Medical Association, haemophiliacs, 725 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,240 uh, gay community groups, IV drug users and sex workers. 726 00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:55,280 Anyone else? The trade unions. 727 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,360 You're inviting the cause of the problem to sit at that table? 728 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,240 You can't blame the trade unions for AIDS. 729 00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:03,520 I'm not the only one who feels this way. 730 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,280 You have so many community organisations. 731 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,400 Every five minutes, there's a new one. 732 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,560 It's enough. 733 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,840 All I've heard so far is you're offended 734 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,120 and there are too many groups. 735 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,240 What does an IV drug user know about medical policy? 736 00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:17,520 It's not a medical problem. 737 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,440 It's a social one. Our polling clearly shows... 738 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,920 All those interests in one organisation? 739 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,000 (SCOFFS SOFTLY) 740 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,280 I can't see it working. 741 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,920 With all due respect, you're wrong. 742 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,440 And with even greater respect, 743 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,920 it's not the Minister's job to convince you of anything. 744 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,520 So, who's going to lead this tambourine caravan of yours? 745 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,400 There was something in the polling, 746 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,600 something about mothers. 747 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,920 Uh... 748 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,600 Mothers are having the conversations, 749 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,040 worried about husbands and children. 750 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,920 Alright, then, we need a mother. 751 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,000 Someone everybody already knows. 752 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,920 Someone like the woman in the Panadol ad. 753 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,960 Someone from 'Play School'. They're actors. 754 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,400 I know they're actors. Someone with gravitas. 755 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:12,720 Maggie Tabberer? Carla Zampatti? 756 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:13,840 (GROANS) 757 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,680 What about Caroline McGarvey? 758 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:24,360 Wasn't she behind some of the more, shall we say, unhelpful headlines 759 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,000 when AIDS first appeared? 760 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,800 She knows how to get attention. 761 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,280 Everyone knows who she is. People trust her. 762 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:31,640 I don't know anything about her 763 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,160 beyond the fact that she's a journalist. 764 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,400 Caroline McGarvey has the intellectual grunt. 765 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,520 She can boil down a complex idea into a simple argument. 766 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,520 It's audacious, but when she talks, the conversation changes. 767 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,960 (CHUCKLES) Who's gonna disagree with her? 768 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,200 We have to get this right. 769 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,360 We need an open and frank conversation with Australia. 770 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,960 She'll give us that. 771 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,720 Will it look like a stunt? Not at all. 772 00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:00,440 She can talk to CEOs and people in supermarket queues 773 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,920 and everyone in between. 774 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,200 That's what we need. 775 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,400 The medicos will hate us putting a female journalist at the top. 776 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,680 (HALF-LAUGHS) 777 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,520 Especially Mitchell. 778 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:24,200 Are these the HIV results? Yep. 779 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,720 (DANCE MUSIC PLAYS) 780 00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:49,720 PERFORMER: Hi, everyone. Eyes on me. 781 00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:52,800 Alright, darlings, shut the hell up! 782 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,120 Said with love. (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) 783 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,640 I'm handing over to our darling Cupid. 784 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,080 You all know him. His real name's Liam, but that's not his fault. 785 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,080 (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) 786 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,240 Because we've got a special event. 787 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:06,440 Hey! (AUDIENCE CHEERS) 788 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,920 Hi, everyone! 789 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,400 It's so great to see all of you here. 790 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,080 Tonight, the door charge is gonna buy a TV for Ian Thwaite 791 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,240 who can't get out of bed. 792 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,760 Um, a lot of you know him. (AUDIENCE CHEERS, APPLAUDS) 793 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,520 We've all been dealing with sick and dying friends, 794 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,200 um, and now it's not safe for us to walk the streets. 795 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,200 (AUDIENCE BOOS) 796 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,560 But we have some good news. 797 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,520 Um, Betty at the bar over there... (AUDIENCE CHEERS) 798 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,080 ..rounded up some of her girlfriends 799 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,360 and they are offering a ride home on their bikes 800 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,840 to anyone who would like an escort. 801 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,240 (AUDIENCE CHEERS) 802 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,000 Um, and I just... 803 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,760 I quickly want to thank, um, everyone 804 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,440 who is working so tirelessly behind the scenes for us as well. 805 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,040 Um, we see you. 806 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,600 Um, uh, that's it. (GIGGLES) 807 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,360 Alright, get off my stage now. (AUDIENCE LAUGHS) 808 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,960 This one's for all our angels. 809 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,960 (SINGS) # Ooh, baby, do you know what that's worth? # 810 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,840 (CHEERING) # Ooh, heaven is a place on earth 811 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,040 # They say in heaven, love comes first... # 812 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,160 Hi. 813 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,920 # We'll make heaven a place on earth 814 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,240 # When the night falls down 815 00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:39,120 # I wait for you and you come around 816 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,800 # And the world's alive 817 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,600 # With the sound of kids on the street outside 818 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,480 # When you walk into the room 819 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,160 # You pull me close and we start to move 820 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,640 # And we're spinnin' with the stars above 821 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,680 # And you lift me up in a wave of love 822 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:07,080 # Ooh, baby, do you know what that's worth? 823 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,560 # Ooh, heaven is a place on earth 824 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:14,680 # They say in heaven, love comes first 825 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,400 # We'll make heaven a place on earth 826 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,400 # Ooh, heaven is a place on earth 827 00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:28,960 # Heaven 828 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,480 # In this world, we're just beginnin' 829 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,400 # To understand the miracle of livin' 830 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,200 # Baby, I was afraid before... # 831 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,960 Gabe! Why are you making me chase you? Gabe, just stop! 832 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,600 Hi, David. 833 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,680 Hi. 834 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,120 Look, I know I haven't... I was... 835 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,920 I said some shitty things. 836 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,360 (STAMMERS) And you're angry. 837 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,880 Yes, you have every right to be. 838 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,080 I just... 839 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,920 I miss you. 840 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,120 I miss your face. I miss everything. 841 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,720 Please come back to me. 842 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,000 I had to go to the hospital. 843 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,560 I have cytomegalovirus. 844 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,200 It's an infection. You get it from cats. 845 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,920 From cats? 846 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,680 You get it if your immune system doesn't work. 847 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,760 (SOBS) 848 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,840 Hey, you're Caroline McGarvey. Guilty. 849 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,200 Your poofter friends deserve to die. 850 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,840 Don't you fuckin' call me an arsehole! 851 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,800 Fuck off! Do you love me? 852 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,000 Maybe I didn't tell you because I don't want a nurse. 853 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,000 I want my boyfriend. 854 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,320 We have a choice. 855 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,400 Death in the hundreds 856 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,240 or death in the hundred of thousands. 857 00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:22,560 I'm not gonna let this thing take me. 858 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,720 (CORK POPS) DEB: To all the beautiful boys. 859 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:27,560 We don't need to hold people's hands. 860 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:30,360 We need to scare the shit out of them! 861 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,360 Captions by Red Bee Media 862 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,160 Copyright Australian Broadcasting Corporation 65633

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