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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,423 --> 00:00:08,425 [dramatic music playing] 2 00:00:08,508 --> 00:00:10,510 [sirens wailing in distance] 3 00:00:13,763 --> 00:00:18,560 [Leith] In 1980, I was a beat reporter in Bergen County with The Record, 4 00:00:18,643 --> 00:00:23,314 covering Hasbrouck Heights, covering Lodi, New Jersey. 5 00:00:23,398 --> 00:00:25,650 [phones ringing, typewriter keys clacking] 6 00:00:25,734 --> 00:00:28,361 [Leith] The call came that there was an incident 7 00:00:28,445 --> 00:00:30,488 at the Quality Inn in Hasbrouck Heights. 8 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,285 And of course, it was my responsibility to respond to it. 9 00:00:35,368 --> 00:00:37,579 [woman screaming] 10 00:00:39,205 --> 00:00:44,919 A woman screamed loud enough for the hotel personnel, uh, to hear it 11 00:00:45,003 --> 00:00:48,006 and to, uh, come to the room and knock on the door. 12 00:00:48,089 --> 00:00:49,257 [knocking on door] 13 00:00:52,677 --> 00:00:55,430 [Leith] She managed to make a hand signal 14 00:00:57,057 --> 00:00:59,225 to whoever was there in the hallway. 15 00:01:01,770 --> 00:01:04,522 The hotel staff realized that she was in trouble. 16 00:01:04,606 --> 00:01:06,816 [dial tone, phone dialing] 17 00:01:06,900 --> 00:01:09,110 And so, right away, they call the police. 18 00:01:09,861 --> 00:01:12,697 [Geberth] At this point, he's in a panic. 19 00:01:12,781 --> 00:01:14,908 He knows the jig is up. He's gotta get out of there. 20 00:01:14,991 --> 00:01:16,034 [sirens wailing] 21 00:01:16,117 --> 00:01:19,329 [Dr. Vronsky] He attempts to make a run for it down the hallway. 22 00:01:19,954 --> 00:01:21,289 [Geberth] All of a sudden, 23 00:01:21,372 --> 00:01:24,959 a Hasbrouck Heights police officer came in, threw him down… 24 00:01:25,043 --> 00:01:28,171 [Leith] …told him to stop, raise his hands, 25 00:01:28,254 --> 00:01:30,882 said, "If you don't stop, I'm gonna blow you away." 26 00:01:30,965 --> 00:01:33,259 [sirens continue] 27 00:01:33,343 --> 00:01:34,469 [Geberth] He did stop, 28 00:01:35,970 --> 00:01:38,056 and he dropped everything in the hallway. 29 00:01:38,973 --> 00:01:40,642 [police radio chatter] 30 00:01:40,725 --> 00:01:42,977 When they grabbed this perpetrator, 31 00:01:43,728 --> 00:01:47,440 in his possession, he's got… tape. 32 00:01:48,149 --> 00:01:50,068 He's got handcuffs. 33 00:01:50,151 --> 00:01:52,445 He's got bondage restraints. 34 00:01:52,529 --> 00:01:54,364 He's got sedatives. 35 00:01:55,615 --> 00:01:58,159 [Leith] Police question Leslie Ann O'Dell, 36 00:01:58,243 --> 00:02:01,746 and she told the police everything that he was doing to her. 37 00:02:01,830 --> 00:02:04,124 She accused him of sexual assault 38 00:02:04,207 --> 00:02:08,753 and said it was when he put handcuffs on her and threatened her 39 00:02:08,837 --> 00:02:11,256 that she was afraid she was gonna be killed. 40 00:02:11,339 --> 00:02:14,217 But when police question the suspect, 41 00:02:14,300 --> 00:02:17,887 he made it sound like he wasn't really at fault. 42 00:02:17,971 --> 00:02:21,015 He said that she was there willingly, 43 00:02:21,099 --> 00:02:23,893 so there was no crime that had been committed. 44 00:02:23,977 --> 00:02:26,563 [Dr. Vronsky] But for the police in New Jersey, 45 00:02:26,646 --> 00:02:28,731 right away, alarm bells are ringing. 46 00:02:29,607 --> 00:02:31,651 This is the same hotel. 47 00:02:31,734 --> 00:02:35,113 Two women, they were killed there earlier. 48 00:02:35,947 --> 00:02:37,365 This has gotta be the same guy. 49 00:02:37,448 --> 00:02:38,616 [sirens wailing] 50 00:02:38,700 --> 00:02:41,119 [Leith] So the police put him under arrest, 51 00:02:41,202 --> 00:02:44,664 and they took him to police headquarters… 52 00:02:44,747 --> 00:02:46,958 [camera shutter clicking] 53 00:02:47,041 --> 00:02:48,877 {\an8}[cell door closes] 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,672 {\an8}[Leith] …and learned that his name was Richard Cottingham. 55 00:02:52,755 --> 00:02:54,757 {\an8}[dramatic music playing] 56 00:02:56,176 --> 00:02:57,177 {\an8}[projector whirring] 57 00:02:57,260 --> 00:02:58,970 [tense music playing] 58 00:03:13,109 --> 00:03:14,986 [horns honking] 59 00:03:19,866 --> 00:03:21,367 [horns honking] 60 00:03:21,451 --> 00:03:23,453 [dramatic music playing] 61 00:03:31,669 --> 00:03:35,173 [Geberth] In New York City, with the Midtown torso case, 62 00:03:37,008 --> 00:03:40,220 the case was basically stalled in the water. 63 00:03:46,226 --> 00:03:47,894 There was no further information… 64 00:03:50,980 --> 00:03:53,024 because the investigation 65 00:03:53,608 --> 00:03:56,027 {\an8}didn't lead to any… any suspects. 66 00:03:57,570 --> 00:04:00,657 Now, you gotta remember something. It's the early '80s. 67 00:04:00,740 --> 00:04:03,368 There wasn't any communication between agencies. 68 00:04:03,451 --> 00:04:04,953 [phone ringing] 69 00:04:05,036 --> 00:04:08,748 [Geberth] And so just a few days after the murder of Jean Ann Reyner, 70 00:04:09,749 --> 00:04:11,584 authorities in New York City, 71 00:04:11,668 --> 00:04:16,673 they had no idea that a suspect with the same MO as the Torso Killer 72 00:04:17,340 --> 00:04:21,219 had been arrested for assaulting a prostitute across the river 73 00:04:21,302 --> 00:04:22,595 in New Jersey. 74 00:04:26,349 --> 00:04:30,520 [Leith] Richard Cottingham had been locked up in Bergen County 75 00:04:30,603 --> 00:04:33,731 {\an8}for the attack against, uh, Leslie Ann O'Dell. 76 00:04:35,858 --> 00:04:36,693 [phone ringing] 77 00:04:36,776 --> 00:04:40,780 And Jersey police thought that he might be the serial killer 78 00:04:40,863 --> 00:04:42,657 they had been looking for, 79 00:04:43,491 --> 00:04:48,579 {\an8}who murdered Valerie Street and Maryann Carr at the Quality Inn. 80 00:04:50,373 --> 00:04:52,250 So Bergen County 81 00:04:52,333 --> 00:04:54,252 began building their case, 82 00:04:55,003 --> 00:04:58,506 connecting him with earlier crimes. 83 00:04:59,132 --> 00:05:04,012 They learned that Richard Cottingham was living in nearby Lodi, New Jersey, 84 00:05:05,054 --> 00:05:07,432 which is adjacent to Hasbrouck Heights, 85 00:05:08,474 --> 00:05:10,977 where the Quality Inn was located. 86 00:05:12,895 --> 00:05:15,231 [Dr. Vronsky] Police had also learned 87 00:05:16,107 --> 00:05:18,818 that Maryann Carr was abducted 88 00:05:18,901 --> 00:05:22,530 from the same apartment complex where Richard Cottingham lived 89 00:05:22,613 --> 00:05:25,533 {\an8}about five years earlier before her abduction. 90 00:05:26,659 --> 00:05:30,413 In all these cases, there's the use of handcuffs, 91 00:05:31,331 --> 00:05:34,250 two victims with strangulation, 92 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:38,421 two victims with adhesive remains around their mouths. 93 00:05:38,504 --> 00:05:40,173 So we're having a pattern here. 94 00:05:40,965 --> 00:05:44,177 [Geberth] And they felt very confident this guy might be related. 95 00:05:44,677 --> 00:05:47,305 But there's a lot of things working against the investigators. 96 00:05:48,181 --> 00:05:52,060 [Leith] They didn't have enough evidence to support the prosecutor's case. 97 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,022 'Cause you not only wanna arrest this guy, you need to convict him. 98 00:05:56,105 --> 00:06:00,568 {\an8}You have to build a solid case of credible information… 99 00:06:00,651 --> 00:06:02,070 [phone ringing] 100 00:06:02,153 --> 00:06:05,365 …using evidence and statements 101 00:06:05,448 --> 00:06:08,993 from surviving victims, like Leslie Ann O'Dell. 102 00:06:09,077 --> 00:06:10,370 [phone ringing] 103 00:06:10,453 --> 00:06:13,456 [Reiman] Because this is a serial killer case, in particular, 104 00:06:13,539 --> 00:06:14,999 detectives are looking into 105 00:06:15,083 --> 00:06:17,126 if something similar happened to someone else. 106 00:06:17,877 --> 00:06:20,963 Because if you have other survivors, 107 00:06:21,047 --> 00:06:22,757 then you have more witnesses, 108 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,888 which would help determine a pattern of what this guy does and how he does it. 109 00:06:30,056 --> 00:06:31,766 How did he approach her? 110 00:06:31,849 --> 00:06:33,226 What did he say? 111 00:06:33,851 --> 00:06:35,603 How did the evening progress? 112 00:06:36,104 --> 00:06:37,605 When did it go bad? 113 00:06:37,688 --> 00:06:39,524 These little details 114 00:06:39,607 --> 00:06:41,734 can link different crimes together. 115 00:06:41,818 --> 00:06:43,694 It can make or break the case. 116 00:06:44,987 --> 00:06:50,118 [Geberth] The Bergen County investigators found a lot of unsolved rape-assault cases 117 00:06:50,201 --> 00:06:52,703 where they were picked up from New York City, 118 00:06:52,787 --> 00:06:55,581 brought to New Jersey, and almost killed. 119 00:06:55,665 --> 00:06:57,667 [tense music playing] 120 00:07:00,253 --> 00:07:02,255 [sirens wailing in distance] 121 00:07:05,133 --> 00:07:06,592 {\an8}[woman] When I became conscious, 122 00:07:06,676 --> 00:07:11,264 {\an8}I was lying naked in a sewer at an apartment complex. 123 00:07:11,848 --> 00:07:16,310 The night before, she was approached at a bar in New York City. 124 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,230 {\an8}[woman] He started talking to me, 125 00:07:20,148 --> 00:07:22,400 {\an8}and he asked me what I was doing there alone. 126 00:07:22,900 --> 00:07:24,902 [Geberth] He offered to buy her a drink. 127 00:07:26,154 --> 00:07:28,406 [woman] He asked me if I was a working girl. 128 00:07:28,489 --> 00:07:30,700 I told him that I was a waitress. 129 00:07:31,242 --> 00:07:34,454 The drink was loaded, and she began to feel ill. 130 00:07:34,537 --> 00:07:37,582 She left the bar, he followed her, offered her a ride home. 131 00:07:38,166 --> 00:07:39,417 She got into the car, 132 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:42,837 and before you know it, they were driving into New Jersey. 133 00:07:43,504 --> 00:07:45,256 [woman] I kept passing out. 134 00:07:45,756 --> 00:07:47,508 When she came conscious, 135 00:07:47,592 --> 00:07:50,970 she had been severely, uh, bitten on the breast. 136 00:07:51,053 --> 00:07:54,015 She had been beaten and sexually assaulted. 137 00:07:54,515 --> 00:07:57,310 [woman] I woke up in a dark area, 138 00:07:57,393 --> 00:08:01,814 and he told me, "Don't worry, I used to live here." 139 00:08:02,732 --> 00:08:04,734 [tense music playing] 140 00:08:05,610 --> 00:08:07,945 [sirens wailing] 141 00:08:13,451 --> 00:08:16,287 {\an8}[woman] When I came to, my attacker was gone. 142 00:08:17,038 --> 00:08:18,581 {\an8}He took my jewelry. 143 00:08:18,664 --> 00:08:20,041 {\an8}I could barely move. 144 00:08:20,541 --> 00:08:22,168 {\an8}I hurt all over. 145 00:08:22,251 --> 00:08:23,251 [horns honking] 146 00:08:23,294 --> 00:08:24,670 [Reiman] The night before, 147 00:08:24,754 --> 00:08:27,381 a female prostitute named Susan Geiger 148 00:08:28,090 --> 00:08:30,676 was approached near Broadway in Manhattan. 149 00:08:31,552 --> 00:08:33,429 {\an8}[woman] He asked me if I was a working girl. 150 00:08:33,513 --> 00:08:35,598 {\an8}I told him I was. I needed the money. 151 00:08:36,265 --> 00:08:40,228 This individual asked her to come with him, and she was busy. 152 00:08:40,311 --> 00:08:43,147 Gets her to agree to meet him the next night, 153 00:08:44,148 --> 00:08:45,650 and she does. She comes. 154 00:08:46,567 --> 00:08:48,986 [woman] He says, "Let's go have a couple drinks." 155 00:08:49,070 --> 00:08:51,572 He knew of a nice place, Flanagans. 156 00:08:53,699 --> 00:08:57,328 He said he worked with computers, lived in New Jersey. 157 00:08:58,329 --> 00:09:01,666 And once he had her, he drugged her. 158 00:09:01,749 --> 00:09:04,460 He drugged her, and he brought her to New Jersey… 159 00:09:04,544 --> 00:09:08,172 [woman] I started feeling drowsy, tired, sleepy. 160 00:09:08,256 --> 00:09:13,886 …where the assailant bit her breasts and caused horrendous injuries. 161 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:16,472 She'd been sexually assaulted. 162 00:09:17,098 --> 00:09:19,433 [Geberth] Susan Geiger was left for dead, 163 00:09:20,017 --> 00:09:22,019 and by the grace of God, she lived. 164 00:09:22,103 --> 00:09:24,105 [sirens wailing] 165 00:09:33,864 --> 00:09:38,035 {\an8}[woman] I woke up in a parking lot and had no idea what had happened. 166 00:09:38,661 --> 00:09:39,912 [Geberth] The night before, 167 00:09:39,996 --> 00:09:42,957 the offender spotted her on the street in Times Square. 168 00:09:43,708 --> 00:09:46,085 {\an8}[woman] He had a big fat bankroll. 169 00:09:46,168 --> 00:09:48,462 {\an8}He told me it was $3,000, 170 00:09:49,005 --> 00:09:52,383 {\an8}and he said, "I want to spend the whole night with you." 171 00:09:52,466 --> 00:09:55,136 {\an8}This guy was waving these wads of cash, 172 00:09:56,345 --> 00:09:58,222 asking for sex acts. 173 00:09:59,432 --> 00:10:02,727 [woman] In the bar, he kept insisting that I drink with him. 174 00:10:02,810 --> 00:10:05,896 He kept touching my breasts the whole time. 175 00:10:06,564 --> 00:10:07,898 He was rough. 176 00:10:08,733 --> 00:10:11,694 [Reiman] And then he drugged her, and he brought her to New Jersey, 177 00:10:13,404 --> 00:10:17,325 where she reported a horrific beating and sexual assault. 178 00:10:19,785 --> 00:10:22,079 [typewriter keys clacking] 179 00:10:22,163 --> 00:10:23,873 [Reiman] All of these cases… 180 00:10:25,166 --> 00:10:26,709 had several parallels. 181 00:10:28,002 --> 00:10:30,212 [Dr. Vronsky] The victims found in New Jersey 182 00:10:30,296 --> 00:10:34,800 were abducted from an area in New York City 183 00:10:34,884 --> 00:10:38,387 where Richard Cottingham worked at Blue Cross. 184 00:10:39,847 --> 00:10:43,059 [Geberth] Karen Schilt, she was found in the parking lot 185 00:10:43,142 --> 00:10:46,437 of the Ledgewood apartments in Little Ferry, 186 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,607 which was Maryann Carr's apartment, 187 00:10:50,858 --> 00:10:52,652 where Cottingham used to live. 188 00:10:55,363 --> 00:10:57,740 The attack of Pamela Weisenfeld 189 00:10:57,823 --> 00:11:00,660 was a couple days before the assault of Leslie O'Dell. 190 00:11:02,411 --> 00:11:05,998 Also, this perpetrator, he was drugging them. 191 00:11:07,166 --> 00:11:11,837 And Richard Cottingham had sedatives in his possession. 192 00:11:13,798 --> 00:11:16,717 And all the injuries were so similar. 193 00:11:18,219 --> 00:11:21,681 Now, Bergen County investigators need each new victim 194 00:11:21,764 --> 00:11:26,519 to try to identify Richard Cottingham as their attacker and rapist. 195 00:11:28,562 --> 00:11:30,439 But it's sometimes difficult. 196 00:11:31,023 --> 00:11:32,108 [shutter clicking] 197 00:11:32,191 --> 00:11:35,236 [Dr. Chateauvert] Previously, in the 1970s, 198 00:11:35,319 --> 00:11:39,699 many women would be wary to come forward 199 00:11:39,782 --> 00:11:43,160 {\an8}because rape victims were treated horribly by the law. 200 00:11:43,244 --> 00:11:45,371 {\an8}New York law was particularly onerous. 201 00:11:45,454 --> 00:11:47,707 Even if a woman could identify the rapist, 202 00:11:47,790 --> 00:11:51,377 if you did not have a witness to your rape who was willing to get on the stand 203 00:11:51,460 --> 00:11:53,754 and say, "Yes, I saw this person raped," 204 00:11:53,838 --> 00:11:56,132 then they could not get a conviction. 205 00:11:56,215 --> 00:11:58,718 But also, if you're a sex worker, 206 00:11:58,801 --> 00:12:01,345 the police officer would arrest you 207 00:12:01,846 --> 00:12:04,849 for having said you were a sex worker. 208 00:12:04,932 --> 00:12:07,518 And at the time in New York, 209 00:12:07,601 --> 00:12:10,020 they were cracking down on the sex industry. 210 00:12:10,104 --> 00:12:11,147 [horns honking] 211 00:12:11,230 --> 00:12:14,316 The main focus of the Office of Midtown Enforcement in Times Square 212 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,736 is the elimination of prostitution. 213 00:12:16,819 --> 00:12:18,070 [sirens wailing] 214 00:12:18,154 --> 00:12:20,865 [Dr. Chateauvert] For so long, only women were arrested 215 00:12:20,948 --> 00:12:23,284 for the crime of prostitution. 216 00:12:23,367 --> 00:12:24,577 Men would not be, 217 00:12:24,660 --> 00:12:28,873 even though the law said that soliciting was a non-gendered offense. 218 00:12:29,457 --> 00:12:33,502 {\an8}The girl is taking the brunt of the entire bust. 219 00:12:34,253 --> 00:12:35,963 Double standard? Absolutely. 220 00:12:38,716 --> 00:12:42,011 [Barbara] I was arrested all these dozens of times in New York City. 221 00:12:42,511 --> 00:12:45,848 {\an8}The men, the clients, the johns, the tricks, whatever you wanna call them, 222 00:12:46,974 --> 00:12:48,350 {\an8}they were never rounded up. 223 00:12:48,434 --> 00:12:51,312 The traffickers or pimps, they were never rounded up. 224 00:12:51,937 --> 00:12:54,648 [male reporter] In most cases, a summons was issued, 225 00:12:54,732 --> 00:12:56,692 and the violator was on his way. 226 00:12:58,068 --> 00:13:01,572 But in the late 1970s, early 1980s… 227 00:13:01,655 --> 00:13:03,032 [crowd chanting] 228 00:13:03,115 --> 00:13:05,951 …the feminist movement was getting bigger. 229 00:13:06,035 --> 00:13:08,204 [reporter] Today's marchers were celebrating the growth 230 00:13:08,287 --> 00:13:11,499 of the women's movement from a small band of dedicated feminists 231 00:13:11,582 --> 00:13:15,503 into a full-scale movement involving women of all kinds. 232 00:13:16,212 --> 00:13:18,839 [Dr. Chateauvert] And so, as a result, 233 00:13:18,923 --> 00:13:23,344 there were lots of new developments in the way of policing, 234 00:13:23,427 --> 00:13:28,390 and what began to happen was let's catch the men who are doing all of this. 235 00:13:29,308 --> 00:13:32,520 [male reporter] By the new law, it is now a misdemeanor. 236 00:13:32,603 --> 00:13:35,940 When arrested, a so-called john will be fingerprinted, 237 00:13:36,023 --> 00:13:39,109 photographed, and held in a cell until his arraignment. 238 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:44,073 - [reporter] What do you think of that law? - Well, uh, it's fair, but being a man, 239 00:13:44,156 --> 00:13:46,784 I'm a little biased as to how I feel about it. 240 00:13:46,867 --> 00:13:48,285 But, uh, definitely fair 241 00:13:48,369 --> 00:13:50,412 if you wanna cut down the traffic in Times Square. 242 00:13:50,496 --> 00:13:52,206 Well, there should be equity under the law. 243 00:13:52,289 --> 00:13:54,169 What goes for the woman ought to go for the man. 244 00:13:54,250 --> 00:13:57,711 [Dr. Chateauvert] One of the things that happened with the women's movement 245 00:13:57,795 --> 00:14:01,257 was that women now were feeling that they could 246 00:14:01,340 --> 00:14:05,094 and should determine sexual consent. 247 00:14:06,136 --> 00:14:08,472 Rape laws began to be changed, 248 00:14:08,556 --> 00:14:12,142 and women understood now that what was happening to them 249 00:14:12,226 --> 00:14:14,186 was not right, 250 00:14:14,770 --> 00:14:18,023 and they began to advocate for themselves. 251 00:14:18,107 --> 00:14:22,862 And rape crimes could no longer be swept under the rug, forgotten. 252 00:14:24,822 --> 00:14:27,157 [Leith] And so in Bergen County… 253 00:14:27,241 --> 00:14:28,534 [knocking on door, door opens] 254 00:14:28,617 --> 00:14:30,452 …these other victims 255 00:14:30,536 --> 00:14:33,873 who were also attacked by Richard Cottingham 256 00:14:33,956 --> 00:14:38,043 now feel it is the right time 257 00:14:38,127 --> 00:14:41,088 to come forward and give their story 258 00:14:41,171 --> 00:14:44,258 as to what happened to them, that they will be listened to. 259 00:14:44,341 --> 00:14:46,343 [dramatic music playing] 260 00:14:49,221 --> 00:14:51,265 [Leith] And so, uh, they came forward 261 00:14:51,348 --> 00:14:54,852 to try and identify the guy who attacked them. 262 00:14:55,978 --> 00:14:58,647 [Geberth] However, by the time it came time for the lineup, 263 00:14:59,648 --> 00:15:01,400 Cottingham shaved off his mustache 264 00:15:01,483 --> 00:15:03,694 and looks like a completely different person. 265 00:15:04,528 --> 00:15:06,530 He was trying to prevent identification. 266 00:15:07,865 --> 00:15:11,493 Tell you the truth, if I wasn't a cop, I'd have trouble ID'ing him in the lineup. 267 00:15:11,577 --> 00:15:13,245 He looked completely different. 268 00:15:14,747 --> 00:15:19,960 But Susan Geiger, Pamela Weisenfeld, and Karen Schilt 269 00:15:20,044 --> 00:15:22,838 were able to identify Richard Cottingham. 270 00:15:23,964 --> 00:15:25,925 [birds chirping] 271 00:15:26,008 --> 00:15:28,010 [dramatic music continues] 272 00:15:30,596 --> 00:15:32,806 [Dr. Vronsky] And now in New Jersey, 273 00:15:33,515 --> 00:15:37,311 the media was reporting on Richard Cottingham as the suspect 274 00:15:37,394 --> 00:15:40,314 with the victims found in Bergen County. 275 00:15:46,070 --> 00:15:48,656 Very quickly, the NYPD 276 00:15:49,698 --> 00:15:53,994 sees Richard Cottingham being written about. 277 00:15:55,079 --> 00:15:59,166 They discover similarities between the two cases 278 00:16:00,209 --> 00:16:01,669 and start thinking 279 00:16:02,378 --> 00:16:05,881 maybe Richard Cottingham's the Times Square Torso Killer. 280 00:16:06,548 --> 00:16:08,092 This is what broke the case. 281 00:16:08,676 --> 00:16:10,719 Now these detectives are working together. 282 00:16:10,803 --> 00:16:13,263 They're talking, cooperating, 283 00:16:13,347 --> 00:16:16,976 examining everything, comparing everything, 284 00:16:17,059 --> 00:16:18,477 putting the cases together. 285 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,856 [Leith] So the Bergen County prosecutor's office executed a search warrant 286 00:16:22,940 --> 00:16:25,442 on the home of Richard Cottingham. 287 00:16:25,526 --> 00:16:27,820 [tense music playing] 288 00:16:27,903 --> 00:16:31,240 [Geberth] When they entered his house in Lodi, New Jersey, 289 00:16:31,323 --> 00:16:35,202 the investigators uncovered a private room in his house, 290 00:16:35,285 --> 00:16:37,621 and that was a big, big find. 291 00:16:37,705 --> 00:16:38,539 [projector whirring] 292 00:16:38,622 --> 00:16:41,625 [Leith] It was a room that was down in the basement of the house. 293 00:16:42,126 --> 00:16:45,546 {\an8}He could go there. He… he could lock the door and be alone, 294 00:16:46,338 --> 00:16:49,591 away from his wife, who had filed for divorce. 295 00:16:50,467 --> 00:16:54,304 And what they found made everybody's head spin. 296 00:16:55,431 --> 00:16:57,433 [Geberth] He had pornographic artwork, 297 00:16:59,101 --> 00:17:00,352 adhesive tape, 298 00:17:02,104 --> 00:17:03,689 books about S&M. 299 00:17:05,983 --> 00:17:10,571 [Dr. Vronsky] They find all these women's clothing, purses… 300 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,364 [shutter clicking] 301 00:17:12,448 --> 00:17:15,534 [Leith] Inside that room, he had a vault. 302 00:17:16,243 --> 00:17:18,704 A lockbox, uh, that he kept things in. 303 00:17:20,289 --> 00:17:23,125 [Geberth] They found what turned out to be the actual key 304 00:17:23,208 --> 00:17:26,462 for Maryann Carr's apartment, which he wouldn't have had access to 305 00:17:26,545 --> 00:17:28,797 unless he had gotten access to Maryann Carr. 306 00:17:30,549 --> 00:17:35,012 [Reiman] They found a little koala bear. It belonged to Valerie Ann Street. 307 00:17:35,095 --> 00:17:36,388 [projector whirring] 308 00:17:36,472 --> 00:17:40,726 The police had discovered what became known as the trophy room. 309 00:17:42,061 --> 00:17:45,105 [Geberth] A trophy is evidence of a successful hunt. 310 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,318 And lo and behold, there was a necklace 311 00:17:50,569 --> 00:17:51,987 of Jean Ann Reyner, 312 00:17:52,488 --> 00:17:54,865 {\an8}the victim found at the Hotel Seville. 313 00:17:55,532 --> 00:17:58,535 {\an8}The same necklace from her arrest photograph 314 00:17:58,619 --> 00:18:00,120 {\an8}is right there. 315 00:18:01,747 --> 00:18:03,624 [dramatic music playing] 316 00:18:03,707 --> 00:18:07,086 [Reiman] All of a sudden, they had evidence linking this guy 317 00:18:07,169 --> 00:18:10,172 who was torturing and killing women in Bergen County, New Jersey, 318 00:18:10,255 --> 00:18:13,717 to the famous Torso Killer of New York. 319 00:18:14,843 --> 00:18:17,346 [Geberth] And now, for Richard Cottingham, 320 00:18:17,846 --> 00:18:20,140 his house of cards began to collapse. 321 00:18:20,224 --> 00:18:23,393 - [typewriter keys clacking] - [police radio chatter] 322 00:18:23,477 --> 00:18:26,105 Last winter, we told you about several especially brutal murders 323 00:18:26,188 --> 00:18:28,023 of alleged prostitutes here in New York, 324 00:18:28,107 --> 00:18:29,900 And so far, the murders have gone unsolved. 325 00:18:29,983 --> 00:18:32,778 But now there may be a major break in that case. 326 00:18:33,445 --> 00:18:36,031 The man they want is 33-year-old Richard Cottingham, 327 00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,492 a Lodi, New Jersey computer operator. 328 00:18:38,575 --> 00:18:42,287 And right now, Cottingham is being held on $350,000 bail 329 00:18:42,371 --> 00:18:44,873 in connection with the murder of an alleged prostitute 330 00:18:44,957 --> 00:18:47,876 at the Quality Inn in Hasbrouck Heights, New Jersey. 331 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,670 [instrumental music playing] 332 00:18:49,753 --> 00:18:50,963 [brakes screeching] 333 00:18:52,673 --> 00:18:53,673 [horns honking] 334 00:18:55,259 --> 00:18:56,677 [Dominick] When I came to work, 335 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,305 and we found out that Richie was arrested in New Jersey, 336 00:19:01,098 --> 00:19:02,432 we were all shocked. 337 00:19:03,267 --> 00:19:06,728 {\an8}And we just kept learning about more killings and more killings. 338 00:19:06,812 --> 00:19:08,355 {\an8}Not just the murders, 339 00:19:08,438 --> 00:19:11,483 {\an8}but the taking apart the body and… and things like that. 340 00:19:11,567 --> 00:19:13,152 {\an8}I... It was horrific. 341 00:19:13,735 --> 00:19:16,572 Thinking back to all the stories about the prostitutes 342 00:19:16,655 --> 00:19:18,949 and how he would lure them to New Jersey, 343 00:19:19,032 --> 00:19:21,034 we didn't hear of him hurting them. 344 00:19:21,118 --> 00:19:24,371 Nobody reported him on any... We didn't know what was going on with him. 345 00:19:24,872 --> 00:19:26,707 All we know is what he told us. 346 00:19:26,790 --> 00:19:30,335 As days went by, when the shock wore off, 347 00:19:30,419 --> 00:19:33,046 after I was questioned by the police, 348 00:19:34,256 --> 00:19:35,674 then the bell went off in my head. 349 00:19:36,258 --> 00:19:38,927 This diagram that he drew for me, 350 00:19:40,596 --> 00:19:43,307 I cannot explain why I kept it. 351 00:19:43,807 --> 00:19:45,184 It was just there, 352 00:19:45,976 --> 00:19:49,521 laying with a bunch of crap in a drawer. 353 00:19:49,605 --> 00:19:51,231 And I gave it to them. 354 00:19:52,149 --> 00:19:53,817 I wanted to get him bad. 355 00:19:55,068 --> 00:19:58,071 {\an8}There are 19 charges pending against Richard Cottingham, 356 00:19:58,155 --> 00:20:01,742 {\an8}a 34-year-old computer programmer from Lodi, New Jersey. 357 00:20:01,825 --> 00:20:03,118 {\an8}The major charge is murder. 358 00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:06,872 {\an8}The murder of Valerie Ann Street, a 19-year-old prostitute, 359 00:20:06,955 --> 00:20:09,750 {\an8}who Cottingham allegedly picked up in New York City 360 00:20:09,833 --> 00:20:11,585 {\an8}on May 4th of 1980. 361 00:20:12,169 --> 00:20:15,631 The charges are as long as your arm, you know. [chuckles] 362 00:20:16,757 --> 00:20:20,928 In New Jersey, there was administrating noxious substances. 363 00:20:21,011 --> 00:20:25,599 There was possession of illegal prescriptions, pharmaceuticals. 364 00:20:25,682 --> 00:20:28,852 There was possession of, um… a knife. 365 00:20:29,561 --> 00:20:32,940 [Geberth] And, of course, there was the rape, abduction, and assault 366 00:20:33,023 --> 00:20:37,236 of Leslie O'Dell, Susan Geiger, Karen Schilt, 367 00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:40,280 and the abduction of Pamela Weisenfeld, 368 00:20:40,822 --> 00:20:43,492 and the murder of Valerie Street. 369 00:20:44,868 --> 00:20:46,870 [dramatic music playing] 370 00:20:48,497 --> 00:20:50,249 [man] At the risk of sounding vain, 371 00:20:50,332 --> 00:20:52,918 my reputation was I was the best lawyer, 372 00:20:53,001 --> 00:20:56,004 not only in Bergen County, but North Jersey for sure. 373 00:20:57,172 --> 00:21:02,928 {\an8}Every time a newspaper article would refer to a significant crime in the county, 374 00:21:03,011 --> 00:21:04,763 I was waiting for my phone to ring. 375 00:21:05,555 --> 00:21:09,851 I remember the initial contact that Mrs. Cottingham made with me. 376 00:21:09,935 --> 00:21:11,436 She said right at the outset, 377 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,815 "Mr. Conway, I've been referred to you to represent my son." 378 00:21:14,898 --> 00:21:18,151 "My son did not do anything wrong." 379 00:21:18,652 --> 00:21:23,699 Mr. Cottingham was so determined to prove that he's innocent, 380 00:21:23,782 --> 00:21:25,450 he insisted on going to trial. 381 00:21:25,534 --> 00:21:27,536 [dramatic music continues] 382 00:21:39,923 --> 00:21:42,884 [Dr. Vronsky] What makes this historically an interesting trial, 383 00:21:42,968 --> 00:21:45,721 {\an8}it's one of the first trials that I know of 384 00:21:45,804 --> 00:21:49,850 {\an8}where signature evidence was presented. 385 00:21:49,933 --> 00:21:54,187 Um… Dennis Calo, the prosecutor at that time, 386 00:21:54,271 --> 00:21:57,482 was arguing that 387 00:21:58,692 --> 00:22:02,946 Cottingham's signature was the abduction, the handcuffing, 388 00:22:03,030 --> 00:22:06,325 the taping of his victims, 389 00:22:07,326 --> 00:22:08,785 the mutilation. 390 00:22:09,619 --> 00:22:13,540 He would run that knife along the body of the women, 391 00:22:13,623 --> 00:22:18,920 um… in order to, uh, bring, uh, them into a state of fear. 392 00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:22,924 You know, the signature is the same even though the MO is different. 393 00:22:24,301 --> 00:22:27,554 One victim is stabbed, another one is strangled. 394 00:22:28,096 --> 00:22:30,682 Some were found outside. 395 00:22:30,766 --> 00:22:33,060 Other victims are found inside. 396 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:37,439 He may commit these crimes in different ways, 397 00:22:37,522 --> 00:22:39,024 but the signature is the same. 398 00:22:39,107 --> 00:22:42,861 And that was very advanced at that time. 399 00:22:46,990 --> 00:22:49,409 [Leith] And then the prosecutor brought out 400 00:22:49,493 --> 00:22:52,079 a number of victims who lived to testify. 401 00:22:52,829 --> 00:22:54,748 And… and their testimony was crucial. 402 00:22:55,999 --> 00:23:01,380 {\an8}[woman] I have the vague memory of, like, being burnt on my breast. 403 00:23:01,463 --> 00:23:02,714 {\an8}Like, really hurting. 404 00:23:03,965 --> 00:23:05,550 {\an8}I felt like I was dead. 405 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,807 {\an8}[woman 2] He said I was going to pay for being a whore, like the others. 406 00:23:12,641 --> 00:23:14,851 {\an8}And if I did anything he didn't want me to, 407 00:23:15,602 --> 00:23:17,479 {\an8}he would… kill me. 408 00:23:19,147 --> 00:23:21,274 {\an8}[woman 3] I remember being in a hotel room 409 00:23:21,775 --> 00:23:25,695 {\an8}and waking up to him beating me with a hose and biting me. 410 00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:27,530 {\an8}Jim. 411 00:23:28,448 --> 00:23:30,117 {\an8}He said his name was Jim. 412 00:23:30,742 --> 00:23:32,494 The name didn't mean a damn thing. 413 00:23:32,994 --> 00:23:36,748 The prosecutor would say, "Do you see, uh, the man who attacked you?" 414 00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:38,834 "Yes. There he is." 415 00:23:44,673 --> 00:23:48,844 [Leith] And then the prosecutor entered forensic evidence, 416 00:23:48,927 --> 00:23:52,180 such as the jewelry 417 00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:54,182 that was taken from victims 418 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:56,059 and was in his possession, 419 00:23:56,601 --> 00:23:57,936 and the fingerprints. 420 00:24:00,313 --> 00:24:03,191 [Dr. Vronsky] In the case in the murder of Valerie Street, 421 00:24:03,275 --> 00:24:08,697 the perpetrator had left a print on the ratchet of the handcuff. 422 00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:12,075 They never found a match for that print 423 00:24:12,159 --> 00:24:14,661 until, of course, they arrested Richard Cottingham. 424 00:24:16,621 --> 00:24:20,959 [Geberth] Richard Cottingham actually took the stand in his own defense. 425 00:24:22,127 --> 00:24:25,046 Richard Cottingham's defense was, "I didn't do it." 426 00:24:27,924 --> 00:24:30,385 {\an8}Most of the stuff never happened that way. 427 00:24:31,052 --> 00:24:35,515 {\an8}See, the police, they're the most corrupt people in the world. 428 00:24:35,599 --> 00:24:37,851 {\an8}They will plant evidence on you. 429 00:24:37,934 --> 00:24:40,395 {\an8}They will hide evidence that's in your favor. 430 00:24:40,896 --> 00:24:42,230 {\an8}[Dr. Vronsky] Later, he said, 431 00:24:42,314 --> 00:24:48,445 "You guys put my fingerprint on that handcuff 432 00:24:48,528 --> 00:24:51,072 when you were cuffing my hands up behind my back, 433 00:24:51,156 --> 00:24:53,617 and that's how you got that, uh, print." 434 00:24:54,743 --> 00:24:56,453 {\an8}When police found the room, 435 00:24:56,536 --> 00:25:00,207 {\an8}they made it out to be like they were mementos from victims. 436 00:25:00,290 --> 00:25:02,375 {\an8}He also said, "The jewelry that you found, 437 00:25:02,459 --> 00:25:05,670 you could buy on Canal Street. It's a coincidence." 438 00:25:05,754 --> 00:25:07,964 He says he wasn't getting along with his wife, 439 00:25:08,048 --> 00:25:09,883 so he frequented with ladies of the night. 440 00:25:10,717 --> 00:25:12,052 [Richard] I was a lousy husband. 441 00:25:12,135 --> 00:25:13,762 I was into that nightlife, 442 00:25:13,845 --> 00:25:16,139 and I went out with women every night. 443 00:25:16,223 --> 00:25:18,975 He said they would like some unusual kind of sex. 444 00:25:19,059 --> 00:25:21,645 That's what he enjoyed, and that's what he was paying for. 445 00:25:22,604 --> 00:25:25,774 [Leith] He said Leslie Ann O'Dell permitted him to do the things 446 00:25:25,857 --> 00:25:26,942 that he did to her. 447 00:25:27,025 --> 00:25:29,694 [Richard] Look at her crime scene photos. 448 00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:32,614 You're not gonna see a beat-up person. 449 00:25:32,697 --> 00:25:34,657 He said, well, "She misunderstood his intentions." 450 00:25:34,699 --> 00:25:37,661 "She's supposed to take pain because I paid her for a bondage session." 451 00:25:39,037 --> 00:25:43,041 [Leith] In terms of the other women who had identified him, 452 00:25:43,124 --> 00:25:45,126 he said the women were lying. 453 00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:47,963 [Richard] Hookers will say anything to the police 454 00:25:48,046 --> 00:25:49,839 that the police want them to say. 455 00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:53,718 No hooker is gonna remember a person two years before, 456 00:25:53,802 --> 00:25:55,720 but she'll come and say, "Oh, that's the man," 457 00:25:55,804 --> 00:25:58,139 'cause that's what the police want them to say. 458 00:25:58,848 --> 00:26:02,060 [Leith] His defense was that he was at work 459 00:26:02,686 --> 00:26:04,563 at the time of these, uh, crimes, 460 00:26:04,646 --> 00:26:07,107 and that he has time sheets. 461 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:11,611 [Richard] I went to work every day. I ne... I worked sometimes 200 days straight. 462 00:26:11,695 --> 00:26:13,530 I worked all kinds of overtime. 463 00:26:14,155 --> 00:26:17,367 [Leith] But it turned out that some of his co-workers 464 00:26:17,450 --> 00:26:19,035 at Blue Cross Blue Shield 465 00:26:20,245 --> 00:26:22,789 were willing to come forward and testify. 466 00:26:24,374 --> 00:26:27,836 Other guys in the office were afraid to testify against Richie 467 00:26:28,587 --> 00:26:30,755 because they were in fear 468 00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:33,592 that Richie might do something to them or their family. 469 00:26:34,467 --> 00:26:36,511 But I wanted to hang him by his balls, 470 00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:40,640 and that… and that's the reason that, uh, I… I wasn't afraid to testify. 471 00:26:40,724 --> 00:26:44,311 His alibi for a lot of these murders was, "I was working." 472 00:26:45,228 --> 00:26:46,228 "I was working." 473 00:26:46,980 --> 00:26:49,024 And then I told the prosecutors, 474 00:26:49,107 --> 00:26:51,651 I said, "Look, I can tell you why he wasn't there." 475 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,779 He was cheating the clock, 476 00:26:54,863 --> 00:26:57,157 and I told them how he did it. 477 00:26:59,993 --> 00:27:05,624 Richard and I knew how to change the internal clock on the computer. 478 00:27:06,207 --> 00:27:07,876 As soon as you start the job, 479 00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:10,045 you move the clock ten hours ahead, 480 00:27:10,128 --> 00:27:13,798 and when the job prints out on the log, 481 00:27:13,882 --> 00:27:15,550 it prints that time. 482 00:27:17,010 --> 00:27:19,763 So ten minutes was ten hours. 483 00:27:21,097 --> 00:27:24,893 I had no idea what he was doing when he was cheating the clock. 484 00:27:24,976 --> 00:27:28,271 Murder would have been the last thing on my… on the list. 485 00:27:28,938 --> 00:27:31,691 Nothing more I wanted to do than to put this man away. 486 00:27:32,651 --> 00:27:34,402 I didn't care what happened to me. 487 00:27:37,405 --> 00:27:41,201 [Donald] At this point, prosecution had overwhelming evidence against him. 488 00:27:42,452 --> 00:27:46,373 The jury came back and, of course, found him guilty of the several charges. 489 00:27:46,456 --> 00:27:47,540 [gavel pounds] 490 00:27:47,624 --> 00:27:50,627 [Dr. Vronsky] I think people really feared 491 00:27:51,336 --> 00:27:53,254 to let him out. 492 00:27:53,338 --> 00:27:57,842 This guy was a menace, um, that he had to be taken off the street, 493 00:27:57,926 --> 00:28:00,845 and I think the jury were persuaded of that. 494 00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:05,642 [Donald] When the jury returned a verdict, Cottingham didn't, uh, cry out. 495 00:28:05,725 --> 00:28:07,894 He didn't, uh, show any emotion at all. 496 00:28:09,270 --> 00:28:12,232 {\an8}His mother certainly did, and his sister, oh yes. 497 00:28:12,899 --> 00:28:15,527 {\an8}She was upset, like I... It was all my fault. 498 00:28:17,278 --> 00:28:18,321 After that trial, 499 00:28:19,447 --> 00:28:21,324 they brought up a homicide committed 500 00:28:21,408 --> 00:28:24,077 to a former neighbor of his in Little Ferry, 501 00:28:24,661 --> 00:28:29,082 Maryann Carr, who was not abducted from New York. 502 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:33,086 Sure enough, he was found guilty of killing her too. 503 00:28:34,671 --> 00:28:38,007 Richard Cottingham, he faces another murder trial here in New York. 504 00:28:38,091 --> 00:28:40,969 That case involves three prostitutes who were killed. 505 00:28:41,052 --> 00:28:43,054 [horns honking] 506 00:28:49,144 --> 00:28:51,104 [Jennifer] During the New York trial, 507 00:28:52,772 --> 00:28:55,024 {\an8}my mother's pimp, James Thomas, 508 00:28:55,608 --> 00:29:00,488 {\an8}was waiting for court to be in session again 509 00:29:01,489 --> 00:29:02,657 in the hallway. 510 00:29:04,951 --> 00:29:09,664 I guess Cottingham was in the hallway at the same time. 511 00:29:09,748 --> 00:29:11,875 They get into a physical altercation 512 00:29:11,958 --> 00:29:17,589 where James is just pummeling Cottingham 513 00:29:17,672 --> 00:29:21,593 and punching him repeatedly saying, "Let me punch him one more time." 514 00:29:24,262 --> 00:29:25,930 [cell door buzzing] 515 00:29:26,014 --> 00:29:27,599 [cell door opens] 516 00:29:28,391 --> 00:29:30,393 [dramatic music playing] 517 00:29:32,228 --> 00:29:35,190 [Dominick] Richard was sentenced to almost 200 years total 518 00:29:36,065 --> 00:29:37,275 in Trenton State. 519 00:29:40,403 --> 00:29:42,906 [Geberth] In 1984, I went down to Trenton 520 00:29:43,865 --> 00:29:46,409 to ask him to identify the Jane Doe 521 00:29:47,035 --> 00:29:49,746 from the Travel Inn homicide. 522 00:29:49,829 --> 00:29:53,124 It's very important to bring closure to the families. They have nothing else. 523 00:29:53,208 --> 00:29:56,503 When I was there, he was real arrogant. 524 00:29:57,545 --> 00:30:00,590 {\an8}And he had a kind of smirk on his face like he was… he was playing with me. 525 00:30:01,925 --> 00:30:04,719 Bottom line, he wasn't giving anything up. 526 00:30:08,431 --> 00:30:12,602 [Dr. Vronsky] Cottingham sat in prison for 30 years. 527 00:30:13,686 --> 00:30:19,692 Not a letter, not a word, not a single comment to anybody… 528 00:30:23,947 --> 00:30:25,490 until 2009. 529 00:30:27,867 --> 00:30:29,869 [dramatic music playing] 530 00:30:59,774 --> 00:31:00,859 Hi. 531 00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:02,569 Hello. 532 00:31:02,652 --> 00:31:04,863 I'm Nadia Fezzani. I'm a journalist. 533 00:31:04,946 --> 00:31:08,700 {\an8}I interview serial killers to discover the deeper side of them, 534 00:31:08,783 --> 00:31:10,660 {\an8}the psychological aspect. 535 00:31:10,743 --> 00:31:14,163 Richard Cottingham had never confessed before. 536 00:31:14,747 --> 00:31:19,752 So when I asked him about the reason why he had killed so many women, 537 00:31:19,836 --> 00:31:22,213 I was surprised that he actually told me. 538 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,426 It was a game to me. It was… 539 00:31:27,218 --> 00:31:29,637 It was mainly psychological. 540 00:31:30,221 --> 00:31:31,221 Uh… 541 00:31:34,851 --> 00:31:40,690 I was able to get almost any woman to do whatever I wanted them to do… 542 00:31:42,150 --> 00:31:43,568 psychologically. 543 00:31:43,651 --> 00:31:47,196 You know, or through the… the threat, or the implied threat… 544 00:31:48,197 --> 00:31:49,197 uh… 545 00:31:50,033 --> 00:31:51,117 of being hurt, 546 00:31:51,784 --> 00:31:53,661 of being killed sometimes. 547 00:31:54,329 --> 00:31:57,040 It's godlike, almost. 548 00:31:57,540 --> 00:32:01,961 It's... I mean, you're… you're in complete control of somebody's destiny. 549 00:32:02,754 --> 00:32:05,214 Cottingham claims that 550 00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:10,803 one reason why he chose to kill was when he believed 551 00:32:11,387 --> 00:32:15,224 that some of the women would report him to the police. 552 00:32:15,808 --> 00:32:20,355 The murders were 99% of the time just to protect myself. 553 00:32:20,939 --> 00:32:22,982 The Maryann Carr case, 554 00:32:23,775 --> 00:32:26,861 she wanted to leave, and I wouldn't let her leave at some point. 555 00:32:27,362 --> 00:32:30,114 And then she said the fatal sentence, 556 00:32:30,198 --> 00:32:32,158 "I'll talk to the cops in the morning." 557 00:32:33,284 --> 00:32:36,663 Just that sentence. If she didn't say that sentence, she'd be alive. 558 00:32:37,330 --> 00:32:40,625 But by her saying that, I knew she had to die. 559 00:32:41,501 --> 00:32:43,461 [Nadia] Before I interviewed him, 560 00:32:43,544 --> 00:32:47,465 Richard Cottingham had never confessed to the two murders 561 00:32:47,548 --> 00:32:51,594 he had committed in the Travel Inn Lodge in Times Square. 562 00:32:52,303 --> 00:32:55,098 [Dr. Vronsky] He revealed to Nadia 563 00:32:55,181 --> 00:32:57,850 that he knew Deedeh Goodarzi 564 00:32:57,934 --> 00:33:02,355 and that he had severed her head and both her hands 565 00:33:02,438 --> 00:33:05,358 because he had been seen with her, 566 00:33:05,441 --> 00:33:08,069 and he was worried that he would've been connected to her. 567 00:33:11,364 --> 00:33:15,159 [Nadia] He said that he left the hotel at 3:30 in the morning, 568 00:33:16,536 --> 00:33:19,831 and he was just walking in Times Square. 569 00:33:21,374 --> 00:33:25,003 He was carrying the heads in a bag. 570 00:33:27,922 --> 00:33:32,218 And two police officers stopped him, said, "Hey, where are you going this late?" 571 00:33:32,301 --> 00:33:33,428 [police radio chatter] 572 00:33:33,511 --> 00:33:36,431 [Nadia] He said, "I'm just going to get something to eat." 573 00:33:36,514 --> 00:33:37,514 [sirens wailing] 574 00:33:37,557 --> 00:33:39,100 [Nadia] And they let him go, 575 00:33:40,601 --> 00:33:42,437 so he just continued walking. 576 00:33:45,481 --> 00:33:47,775 [Richard] I would keep pushing the limit of the law, 577 00:33:47,859 --> 00:33:51,612 keep pushing what I could get away with. 578 00:33:51,696 --> 00:33:54,449 The more you get away, the more you wanna get away with. 579 00:33:54,532 --> 00:33:55,658 [car trunk opens] 580 00:33:55,742 --> 00:34:00,329 [Dr. Vronsky] Cottingham claimed later that he put them in the trunk of his car, 581 00:34:00,413 --> 00:34:03,666 then returned back to that hotel room… 582 00:34:05,835 --> 00:34:07,920 and then set the torsos on fire. 583 00:34:08,421 --> 00:34:10,089 [engine starting] 584 00:34:10,173 --> 00:34:12,175 [sirens wailing] 585 00:34:14,927 --> 00:34:17,555 [Richard] What was happening was always gonna happen. 586 00:34:18,598 --> 00:34:21,017 That was the separate life I lived. 587 00:34:23,227 --> 00:34:25,271 [Nadia] Today, do you feel any remorse? 588 00:34:26,564 --> 00:34:27,607 [Richard] Of course. 589 00:34:28,107 --> 00:34:30,359 If, uh, I had to do it over, 590 00:34:30,443 --> 00:34:32,487 probably none… none of it would ever happen. 591 00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:34,655 I never thought I would get caught. 592 00:34:36,115 --> 00:34:39,535 We've been discussing only basically the ones I was caught for. 593 00:34:40,161 --> 00:34:42,413 [Nadia] How many people did you really kill? 594 00:34:43,790 --> 00:34:48,461 [Richard] I mean, they talk about there's no such thing as a perfect murder. 595 00:34:49,253 --> 00:34:53,633 Well, I had over 80 perfect murders they never even knew about. 596 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,890 [Nadia] Cottingham said that he killed more people than he was found guilty of. 597 00:35:03,059 --> 00:35:05,144 He said he was killing women 598 00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:08,981 every other week for 13 years. 599 00:35:10,525 --> 00:35:14,487 Altogether, that's 85 up to 100. 600 00:35:16,197 --> 00:35:19,117 [Richard] It was just a constant type of thing. 601 00:35:20,618 --> 00:35:23,496 [Reiman] While Mr. Cottingham's claims seem outlandish, 602 00:35:23,579 --> 00:35:25,289 it's entirely possible. 603 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,000 [Richard] I flew under the radar. 604 00:35:28,084 --> 00:35:29,335 Nobody knew. 605 00:35:30,044 --> 00:35:33,131 [Jennifer] I think Richard Cottingham was gonna kill anywhere, 606 00:35:33,214 --> 00:35:35,967 but Times Square in the '70s did not help 607 00:35:36,759 --> 00:35:40,138 for someone like Richard, who's a sexual sadist, 608 00:35:40,221 --> 00:35:44,559 to walk through and see sex workers and peep shows 609 00:35:44,642 --> 00:35:49,438 and all sorts of dark, erotic, sexual stuff. 610 00:35:50,231 --> 00:35:53,067 There was too much temptation. 611 00:35:53,151 --> 00:35:56,028 With every step, the opportunity was there. 612 00:35:56,654 --> 00:35:59,323 [Dr. Vronsky] It gave him a kind of almost immunity. 613 00:35:59,407 --> 00:36:01,242 Everybody is doing this. 614 00:36:01,325 --> 00:36:04,662 Everybody is using everybody else. 615 00:36:04,745 --> 00:36:10,293 Everyone is degraded in the sex industry part of Times Square. 616 00:36:14,297 --> 00:36:17,425 [Martin] Pornography is not frowned upon, you could say, 617 00:36:17,508 --> 00:36:19,594 like it was a few years ago. 618 00:36:20,094 --> 00:36:25,516 {\an8}Today, it's, uh, it's looked upon, um… you know, as perfectly normal. 619 00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:28,436 [woman] Pornography is considered to be normal. 620 00:36:28,936 --> 00:36:32,064 I mean, there are judges and lawyers and media figures in this town 621 00:36:32,148 --> 00:36:33,774 who thought Deep Throat was terrific. 622 00:36:33,858 --> 00:36:40,072 {\an8}It was humiliating, disgusting, sick, sadistic. 623 00:36:40,156 --> 00:36:43,618 [crowd chanting] Shut it down! Shut it down! 624 00:36:43,701 --> 00:36:46,078 [anchorman] Thousands of angry women marched down Broadway 625 00:36:46,162 --> 00:36:47,079 to Times Square today. 626 00:36:47,163 --> 00:36:49,624 The heart of the billion-dollar porn industry. 627 00:36:49,707 --> 00:36:52,210 They say it promotes violence against women. 628 00:36:52,293 --> 00:36:54,795 They've made porn a feminist target. 629 00:36:54,879 --> 00:36:57,715 In the late '70s, Women Against Pornography 630 00:36:57,798 --> 00:37:02,720 was a campaign of reform in trying to combat the rise of porn, 631 00:37:02,803 --> 00:37:04,889 not only in Times Square, but throughout the country. 632 00:37:04,972 --> 00:37:09,602 What we're objecting to in pornography is the use and abuse of women. 633 00:37:09,685 --> 00:37:12,021 It's the violent images of women. 634 00:37:12,104 --> 00:37:17,735 Uh, images of women being bound, beaten, raped, tortured, and murdered 635 00:37:17,818 --> 00:37:20,488 for stimulation, entertainment, or profit. 636 00:37:21,072 --> 00:37:23,407 [Anthony] And so Women Against Pornography 637 00:37:23,491 --> 00:37:27,453 joined the ranks of people who wanted to clean up Times Square and 42nd Street. 638 00:37:28,454 --> 00:37:30,581 {\an8}The Midtown Enforcement Project, 639 00:37:30,665 --> 00:37:32,833 {\an8}and the work that we did over the years, 640 00:37:32,917 --> 00:37:35,169 I think made a big difference. 641 00:37:35,253 --> 00:37:39,465 But what I think did more to stop the sex business in Times Square 642 00:37:40,424 --> 00:37:41,425 was AIDS. 643 00:37:42,093 --> 00:37:45,471 For months now, we've been telling you about the disease called A.I.D.S., 644 00:37:45,554 --> 00:37:47,932 or Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome, 645 00:37:48,015 --> 00:37:51,143 and about half of all the cases happened here in New York. 646 00:37:51,936 --> 00:37:57,984 The AIDS epidemic, we became aware of it around 1981. 647 00:37:59,193 --> 00:38:03,489 It was, uh, like a science-fiction scenario of death. 648 00:38:05,866 --> 00:38:10,162 [Veronica] There was a lot of concern about the sex businesses 649 00:38:10,246 --> 00:38:12,331 and the sex workers in Times Square. 650 00:38:13,082 --> 00:38:15,251 {\an8}The live sex acts stopped onstage. 651 00:38:15,334 --> 00:38:17,044 {\an8}You didn't see that anymore, 652 00:38:17,128 --> 00:38:19,297 {\an8}because that was just too… too dangerous. 653 00:38:22,091 --> 00:38:23,217 In an overwhelming vote, 654 00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:25,511 members of the New York State Public Health Council 655 00:38:25,594 --> 00:38:27,346 today gave local authorities the power 656 00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:30,474 to close any establishment catering to the public 657 00:38:30,558 --> 00:38:33,561 that allows what it calls "dangerous sex." 658 00:38:33,644 --> 00:38:36,063 Places such as gay bathhouses, adult bookstores, 659 00:38:36,147 --> 00:38:37,857 and heterosexual sex clubs. 660 00:38:38,816 --> 00:38:40,496 [reporter 2] On a Friday night at 11 p.m., 661 00:38:40,526 --> 00:38:44,572 there are usually 50 heterosexual couples inside Plato's Retreat, 662 00:38:44,655 --> 00:38:46,407 but tonight at 8:40, 663 00:38:46,490 --> 00:38:49,285 just 20 minutes before their usual opening time, 664 00:38:49,368 --> 00:38:52,038 the city shut down this sexual playpen. 665 00:38:52,121 --> 00:38:55,166 [Veronica] So the sex businesses and the sex workers on the street 666 00:38:55,249 --> 00:38:58,586 were getting kicked out, and AIDS was pushing that along. 667 00:38:58,669 --> 00:39:00,671 [sirens wailing] 668 00:39:02,381 --> 00:39:05,885 A cleanup of Times Square has been one of City Hall's promises over the years, 669 00:39:05,968 --> 00:39:08,971 and New Yorkers might be forgiven some healthy skepticism by this time. 670 00:39:09,055 --> 00:39:11,557 But if you've taken a stroll through the area lately, 671 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,602 you might have known that, uh, some real change has taken place there. 672 00:39:14,685 --> 00:39:17,855 The number of peep shows, massage parlors, and porno shops 673 00:39:17,938 --> 00:39:20,358 has been cut almost in half in the past seven years. 674 00:39:20,441 --> 00:39:23,319 Crime in the Times Square area is down too, the report said. 675 00:39:26,989 --> 00:39:29,367 [anchorman] We learned tonight the Koch administration 676 00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:32,995 is considering a plan to turn the center of the Times Square porno district 677 00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:34,914 into a kind of amusement park. 678 00:39:35,414 --> 00:39:36,916 [horns honking] 679 00:39:36,999 --> 00:39:40,419 {\an8}New development began in the early 1980s 680 00:39:40,503 --> 00:39:43,297 {\an8}with major office towers, 681 00:39:43,381 --> 00:39:46,217 hotels, legitimate theaters. 682 00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:50,012 {\an8}The city condemned a very large swath of territory. 683 00:39:50,096 --> 00:39:51,555 [horns honking] 684 00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:55,559 But some historic theaters on 42nd Street were preserved. 685 00:39:56,644 --> 00:39:58,854 The New Amsterdam Theater, 686 00:39:58,938 --> 00:40:01,399 where the Ziegfeld Follies opened in 1903, 687 00:40:01,482 --> 00:40:03,609 was going to be torn down. 688 00:40:05,027 --> 00:40:08,906 Somehow, between Disney and the city of New York, 689 00:40:08,989 --> 00:40:10,533 for 30 or 40 million dollars, 690 00:40:10,616 --> 00:40:13,869 they were able to renovate that into what it is today. 691 00:40:16,330 --> 00:40:19,291 The New Amsterdam is where you first saw The Lion King. 692 00:40:20,459 --> 00:40:21,794 It's gorgeous. 693 00:40:22,628 --> 00:40:25,965 [Carl] Times Square is now Disneyfied, 694 00:40:26,632 --> 00:40:29,593 so it has really had quite an evolution 695 00:40:30,219 --> 00:40:33,347 over the last 20, 30 years. 696 00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:35,975 Crime has come down so much, 697 00:40:37,393 --> 00:40:39,979 and tourism has exploded. 698 00:40:40,938 --> 00:40:46,277 I think something like 85% of people who visit New York from elsewhere 699 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,445 come to Times Square. 700 00:40:48,654 --> 00:40:52,366 [Michael] Tourists love it, but it sanitized the area. 701 00:40:52,950 --> 00:40:55,202 {\an8}Times Square became just like every other city. 702 00:40:56,412 --> 00:40:58,330 It's so generic. 703 00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:03,377 The old Times Square was extraordinary. 704 00:41:03,461 --> 00:41:04,837 There's nothing like it. 705 00:41:05,421 --> 00:41:06,839 [sirens wailing] 706 00:41:06,922 --> 00:41:09,550 [Josh] And yet, I understand why it's gone. 707 00:41:16,056 --> 00:41:17,683 [Carl] The old Times Square 708 00:41:18,851 --> 00:41:20,978 was not a good place. 709 00:41:22,855 --> 00:41:26,734 It really ruined a lot of people's lives. 710 00:41:29,278 --> 00:41:34,325 [Barbara] I was out in the street being trafficked… for 13 years. 711 00:41:35,868 --> 00:41:39,497 {\an8}I've seen one study that said the average lifespan of someone… 712 00:41:41,540 --> 00:41:44,376 {\an8}that's experienced what I have is seven years. 713 00:41:44,460 --> 00:41:46,045 I've never met anyone 714 00:41:46,128 --> 00:41:49,507 that was out in the street of New York when I was 715 00:41:49,590 --> 00:41:51,383 that's alive today. 716 00:41:53,844 --> 00:41:54,844 I never have. 717 00:41:56,514 --> 00:41:58,933 So the whole time I was in New York City, 718 00:41:59,016 --> 00:42:02,102 I had no identification, no Social Security number, 719 00:42:02,186 --> 00:42:05,272 uh, no birth certificate, nothing. No identifying anything. 720 00:42:05,356 --> 00:42:07,358 [somber music playing] 721 00:42:09,151 --> 00:42:12,988 [Barbara] If I died, nobody would have ever known who I was. 722 00:42:13,072 --> 00:42:15,157 I just would have been a Jane Doe. 723 00:42:18,452 --> 00:42:21,497 [Dr. Chateauvert] In the 1970s and into the 1980s, 724 00:42:21,580 --> 00:42:26,627 many sex workers' bodies who have been found 725 00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:28,963 were listed as NHI, 726 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,174 and that is "No Human Involved." 727 00:42:32,675 --> 00:42:37,596 {\an8}In other words, they lacked so little respect and status in society, 728 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,014 {\an8}according to the police, 729 00:42:39,098 --> 00:42:44,144 {\an8}that it was not worth pursuing the crime that had been committed against them. 730 00:42:46,438 --> 00:42:49,149 The police wouldn't go after the perpetrator. 731 00:42:50,526 --> 00:42:51,944 I find it appalling. 732 00:42:54,947 --> 00:42:58,701 {\an8}I think it's awful when a killer kills someone 733 00:42:58,784 --> 00:43:00,953 {\an8}and thinks they're gonna get away with it. 734 00:43:01,036 --> 00:43:05,666 And if there's up to a hundred women and children that Richard killed, 735 00:43:06,417 --> 00:43:10,337 he was gonna go to the grave with all these cold-case stories, 736 00:43:10,421 --> 00:43:13,340 and I just can't fathom that. 737 00:43:14,133 --> 00:43:16,969 So I wanted to learn more, 738 00:43:17,052 --> 00:43:20,973 and I knew I could only find out more from Richard himself. 739 00:43:24,143 --> 00:43:26,729 That's how my relationship started with him. 740 00:43:29,273 --> 00:43:31,066 We aren't friends. 741 00:43:32,860 --> 00:43:35,487 He is a real sick individual. 742 00:43:36,363 --> 00:43:40,409 And as I… began to visit him more, 743 00:43:41,368 --> 00:43:43,370 he revealed details 744 00:43:43,454 --> 00:43:47,166 about really traumatic experiences with young girls. 745 00:43:48,292 --> 00:43:50,085 Deaths he's responsible for. 746 00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:57,134 It kind of snowballed into working with police officers 747 00:43:57,217 --> 00:44:00,679 to help close some cold cases. 748 00:44:02,056 --> 00:44:06,518 Investigators have now started multi-jurisdictional efforts 749 00:44:06,602 --> 00:44:10,439 looking into other cases that this guy could be responsible for. 750 00:44:10,939 --> 00:44:12,816 [Dr. Vronsky] But in 2010, 751 00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:16,070 Cottingham confessed to the murder of Nancy Vogel. 752 00:44:16,737 --> 00:44:18,989 [Reiman] October in 1967, 753 00:44:19,073 --> 00:44:21,575 Nancy Vogel, a young mother, 754 00:44:21,659 --> 00:44:24,411 she went to go play bingo 755 00:44:24,495 --> 00:44:28,749 and disappeared in suburban New Jersey. 756 00:44:29,583 --> 00:44:33,545 {\an8}Three days later, she's naked, found dead in her car. 757 00:44:34,296 --> 00:44:36,840 {\an8}She'd been strangled, sexually assaulted. 758 00:44:37,466 --> 00:44:39,885 Her clothes were neatly folded. 759 00:44:41,637 --> 00:44:43,639 [Dr. Vronsky] He pled guilty to that 760 00:44:43,722 --> 00:44:47,226 and took another life sentence on that case. 761 00:44:47,309 --> 00:44:50,104 {\an8}Mr. Cottingham, you did commit the offenses 762 00:44:50,187 --> 00:44:51,897 {\an8}you're pleading guilty to today? 763 00:44:52,898 --> 00:44:53,982 [Richard] Yes. 764 00:44:54,066 --> 00:44:56,360 [Dr. Vronsky] Cottingham confessed to other killings. 765 00:44:57,653 --> 00:44:59,947 Five murders in Bergen County 766 00:45:00,030 --> 00:45:03,617 that have been unsolved since 1968, 767 00:45:04,535 --> 00:45:06,036 1969, 768 00:45:07,371 --> 00:45:09,206 and 1974. 769 00:45:10,374 --> 00:45:13,585 They were schoolgirls in their teenage years. 770 00:45:14,461 --> 00:45:19,508 [Reiman] It looks like he started out with young women and girls 771 00:45:19,591 --> 00:45:23,053 in the suburbs, not far away from him, 772 00:45:23,137 --> 00:45:25,389 and that's how he started out. 773 00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:27,766 [Dr. Vronsky] Maryann Carr, 774 00:45:28,267 --> 00:45:29,643 Nancy Vogel, 775 00:45:30,477 --> 00:45:32,604 and the schoolgirls, 776 00:45:32,688 --> 00:45:36,734 did not match his original profile 777 00:45:37,609 --> 00:45:40,028 because they weren't sex workers. 778 00:45:40,988 --> 00:45:43,741 [Geberth] Traditionally, most serial killers, 779 00:45:43,824 --> 00:45:46,243 the first killings are usually close to home. 780 00:45:47,494 --> 00:45:49,747 But when they see the extent of the investigation 781 00:45:49,830 --> 00:45:51,915 and they realize the possibility of being caught, 782 00:45:51,999 --> 00:45:53,667 they distance themselves. 783 00:45:54,877 --> 00:46:00,549 For him, it was a progression to targeting prostitutes in Times Square. 784 00:46:02,718 --> 00:46:06,472 [Dr. Vronsky] Serial killers often tend to target 785 00:46:06,555 --> 00:46:09,641 those people that society devalues. 786 00:46:10,726 --> 00:46:16,482 And so sex workers, of course, are… are universally devalued by society. 787 00:46:17,816 --> 00:46:20,861 Times Square aided and abetted Richard Cottingham 788 00:46:20,944 --> 00:46:23,155 in the sense that it gave him a victim pool. 789 00:46:26,700 --> 00:46:32,289 The problem that sex workers identify as the most problematic 790 00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:35,209 is the illegality of their trade. 791 00:46:35,292 --> 00:46:38,712 That is why sex workers call for decriminalization 792 00:46:38,796 --> 00:46:42,674 as a first step towards creating regulations of… 793 00:46:42,758 --> 00:46:45,636 on their own terms, by themselves, 794 00:46:46,303 --> 00:46:49,389 in conditions that provide safety, 795 00:46:50,724 --> 00:46:52,392 paving the way eventually 796 00:46:52,476 --> 00:46:55,854 for the stigma of being a sex worker to erode. 797 00:46:56,438 --> 00:46:58,982 The biggest takeaway from this case 798 00:46:59,066 --> 00:47:02,194 is maybe as many as a hundred people were murdered, 799 00:47:02,277 --> 00:47:03,654 and we don't know about it. 800 00:47:07,366 --> 00:47:12,913 [Jennifer] All of the women that Richard killed… 801 00:47:14,915 --> 00:47:18,418 left this world in a horrific way. 802 00:47:19,419 --> 00:47:22,089 It always weighs heavily over me. 803 00:47:22,881 --> 00:47:24,007 A dark cloud. 804 00:47:24,925 --> 00:47:30,556 So I maintain a re… relationship with Richard now 805 00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:34,017 because I want the names 806 00:47:34,101 --> 00:47:37,646 of the unidentified victims whose lives he took. 807 00:47:40,357 --> 00:47:43,652 Lives that… never came to fruition. 808 00:47:44,486 --> 00:47:46,905 I think we need to remember them 809 00:47:46,989 --> 00:47:51,159 because they… deserve justice. 810 00:48:05,883 --> 00:48:07,885 [ominous music playing] 64001

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