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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:14,448 --> 00:00:16,550 THE GREAT RESPECT THAT I HAVE 4 00:00:16,617 --> 00:00:19,053 FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP, MR. PRESIDENT, 5 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:24,825 IN THIS LITTLE-UNDERSTOOD, UNFAMILIAR WAR, 6 00:00:24,892 --> 00:00:27,961 THE FIRST WAR OF THE 21st CENTURY, 7 00:00:30,798 --> 00:00:33,934 IT IS NOT WELL KNOWN, IT WAS NOT WELL UNDERSTOOD, 8 00:00:34,001 --> 00:00:37,438 IT IS COMPLEX FOR PEOPLE TO COMPREHEND, 9 00:00:37,505 --> 00:00:41,242 AND I KNOW WITH CERTAIN CERTAINTY THAT OVER TIME 10 00:00:41,309 --> 00:00:46,114 THE CONTRIBUTIONS YOU'VE MADE WILL BE RECORDED BY HISTORY. 11 00:00:47,348 --> 00:00:49,950 [OVERLAPPING NEWS REPORTS AND RADIO CHATTER] 12 00:03:38,919 --> 00:03:42,290 Narrator: ON MAY 1st, 2003, PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH 13 00:03:42,356 --> 00:03:46,427 DECLARED AN END TO MAJOR COMBAT OPERATIONS IN IRAQ AND SAID 14 00:03:46,494 --> 00:03:50,898 "IN THE BATTLE OF IRAQ, THE UNITED STATES AND OUR ALLIES HAVE PREVAILED." 15 00:04:16,357 --> 00:04:22,129 FOUR YEARS LATER, AFTER OVER 3,000 AMERICAN DEATHS AND OVER 20,000 AMERICAN WOUNDED, 16 00:04:22,195 --> 00:04:25,499 {\an8}IRAQ HAS DISINTEGRATED INTO CHAOS. 17 00:04:25,566 --> 00:04:29,570 {\an8}BAGHDAD HAS TEN BOMBINGS, TEN, FIFTEEN BOMBINGS A DAY, 18 00:04:29,637 --> 00:04:32,373 {\an8}AND IT'S MAYBE 50 K.I.A. 19 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,175 {\an8}BUT I SUSPECT THAT'S DRASTICALLY UNDER-REPORTED. 20 00:04:35,242 --> 00:04:39,146 WE'RE PROBABLY CAPTURING A THIRD OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY OCCURRING. 21 00:04:39,212 --> 00:04:42,215 Narrator: MILLIONS OF IRAQIS HAVE LOST ACCESS TO DRINKING WATER, 22 00:04:42,282 --> 00:04:45,753 SEWAGE TREATMENT AND ELECTRICITY SINCE THE INVASION. 23 00:04:45,819 --> 00:04:52,192 BAGHDAD, A CITY OF SIX MILLION, HAS BEEN UNDER AN 8:00 P.M. CURFEW SINCE MARCH OF 2006. 24 00:04:52,259 --> 00:04:56,497 OVER THREE MILLION IRAQIS HAVE FLED TO NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES. 25 00:04:56,564 --> 00:05:01,769 ESTIMATES OF THE CIVILIAN DEATH TOLL RANGE AS HIGH AS 600,000. 26 00:05:01,835 --> 00:05:04,872 {\an8}PEOPLE WHO DIE, THEY'RE LUCKY, 27 00:05:04,938 --> 00:05:08,909 {\an8}BUT PEOPLE LIVING, THEY'RE DEAD WHILE THEY ARE ALIVE. 28 00:05:08,976 --> 00:05:13,581 {\an8}THE WEST PART AND THE NORTH PART OF IRAQ ARE CONTROLLED BY INSURGENTS. 29 00:05:13,647 --> 00:05:16,617 {\an8}THE REST OF IRAQ IS CONTROLLED BY MILITIAS. 30 00:05:16,684 --> 00:05:21,389 Narrator: IRAQ'S TWO MAJOR MUSLIM GROUPS, THE SHI'ITE MAJORITY AND SUNNI MINORITY, 31 00:05:21,455 --> 00:05:23,724 ARE INCREASINGLY AT WAR. 32 00:06:14,307 --> 00:06:18,412 FROM JANUARY 2003 TO JANUARY 2005, 33 00:06:18,479 --> 00:06:20,848 I WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE COUNCIL. 34 00:06:20,914 --> 00:06:27,354 WE PRODUCED THE FIRST NATIONAL ESTIMATE ON THE STATE OF THE INSURGENCY IN IRAQ. 35 00:06:27,421 --> 00:06:28,956 THE ESTIMATE DELIVERED PRETTY BAD NEWS. 36 00:06:29,022 --> 00:06:32,893 IT BASICALLY LAID OUT SORT OF BAD, WORSE AND WORST SCENARIOS. 37 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,862 THE PRESIDENT CALLED IT GUESSWORK 38 00:06:34,928 --> 00:06:36,730 AND HIS PRESS SPOKESMAN 39 00:06:36,797 --> 00:06:41,234 CALLED IT HAND-WRINGING AND NAY-SAYING. 40 00:06:41,301 --> 00:06:43,303 UM, WHAT WAS REALLY REVEALING TO ME 41 00:06:43,370 --> 00:06:45,773 WAS THE PRESIDENT HADN'T READ IT. 42 00:07:13,133 --> 00:07:17,471 Paul Hughes: SEPTEMBER 11TH OF 2001 WAS A VERY CLEAR, BRIGHT, BEAUTIFUL DAY, 43 00:07:17,538 --> 00:07:21,108 AND I HAD JUST COME BACK FROM THE PENTAGON BARBER SHOP, 44 00:07:21,174 --> 00:07:24,478 {\an8}WALKED BY MY OFFICE AND GLANCED UP ON THE TELEVISION SCREEN, 45 00:07:24,545 --> 00:07:29,149 {\an8}AND THERE WAS, UH, ONE OF THE TWIN TOWERS BURNING. 46 00:07:32,185 --> 00:07:35,455 {\an8}WE NEVER HEARD THE PLANE COME IN. AT LEAST I DIDN'T. 47 00:07:35,523 --> 00:07:39,560 {\an8}SUDDENLY THE WHOLE WORLD TURNED UPSIDE DOWN. 48 00:07:39,627 --> 00:07:41,862 {\an8}I SAW THAT FIREBALL AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, 49 00:07:41,929 --> 00:07:45,398 {\an8}I SAW THAT AND I SAID TO MYSELF, I'M GOING TO DIE TODAY. 50 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:49,336 THAT PLANE HAD COME DIRECTLY UNDER OUR SECTION OF THE OFFICES. 51 00:07:49,402 --> 00:07:55,543 THE ARMY BUDGET OFFICE WHERE 38 ARMY EMPLOYEES WERE KILLED WAS DIRECTLY BENEATH US, 52 00:07:55,609 --> 00:07:59,412 AND THE NAVY'S NEW COMMAND CENTER WAS TWO FLOORS BENEATH US. 53 00:07:59,479 --> 00:08:02,449 EVERYBODY WAS KILLED IN THOSE TWO SECTIONS. 54 00:08:02,516 --> 00:08:05,452 THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT OSAMA BIN LADEN HAD ORCHESTRATED 55 00:08:05,519 --> 00:08:08,021 BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONLY TERRORIST I COULD THINK OF 56 00:08:08,088 --> 00:08:10,758 WHO COULD HAVE COORDINATED THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY. 57 00:08:10,824 --> 00:08:12,225 Man: OH, SO YOU HAD THAT THOUGHT IMMEDIATELY? 58 00:08:12,292 --> 00:08:15,796 IMMEDIATELY, IMMEDIATELY. 59 00:08:15,863 --> 00:08:17,397 Narrator: A MONTH AFTER SEPTEMBER 11TH, 60 00:08:17,464 --> 00:08:19,299 THE UNITED STATES ENTERED AFGHANISTAN 61 00:08:19,366 --> 00:08:22,102 IN SEARCH OF AL-QAEDA AND OSAMA BIN LADEN. 62 00:08:22,169 --> 00:08:25,739 BUT EVEN BEFORE THE AFGHAN WAR, SEVERAL SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS 63 00:08:25,806 --> 00:08:27,474 WERE LOOKING AT ANOTHER TARGET, 64 00:08:27,541 --> 00:08:31,278 ONE THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE 9/11 ATTACKS. 65 00:08:31,344 --> 00:08:32,880 {\an8}WHEN THE PLANES HIT THE PENTAGON, 66 00:08:32,946 --> 00:08:34,682 {\an8}I WAS IN THE BUILDING, 67 00:08:34,748 --> 00:08:38,552 {\an8}AND THEN I GUESS THE NEXT BIG THING THAT SORT OF HAPPENED WAS 68 00:08:38,619 --> 00:08:42,389 {\an8}WE IMMEDIATELY GOT TASKED TO SEE IF WE COULD DRAW ANY RELATIONSHIP 69 00:08:42,455 --> 00:08:45,058 BETWEEN SADDAM AND AL-QAEDA. 70 00:08:45,125 --> 00:08:50,297 I WENT RIGHT AWAY TO THE COUNTER-TERRORISM GROUP, 71 00:08:50,363 --> 00:08:52,099 TO THEIR CHIEF IRAQ ANALYST. 72 00:08:52,165 --> 00:08:54,668 THE TWO OF US SAT DOWN OVER A FEW DAYS 73 00:08:54,735 --> 00:08:56,837 AND LOOKED AT ALL THE HISTORICAL REPORTING 74 00:08:56,904 --> 00:08:58,138 THAT WE COULD GO THROUGH. 75 00:08:58,205 --> 00:08:59,306 Man: AND WHAT DID YOU CONCLUDE? 76 00:08:59,506 --> 00:09:02,042 WELL, WE CONCLUDED THAT THERE WAS NO RELATIONSHIP. 77 00:09:02,109 --> 00:09:04,745 HIS REGIME AIDS AND PROTECTS TERRORISTS 78 00:09:04,812 --> 00:09:07,681 INCLUDING MEMBERS OF AL-QAEDA. 79 00:09:07,748 --> 00:09:11,151 WE CONTINUE TO WATCH IRAQ'S INVOLVEMENT IN TERRORIST ACTIVITIES. 80 00:09:11,218 --> 00:09:13,220 WHAT I WANNA BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION TODAY 81 00:09:13,286 --> 00:09:17,490 IS THE POTENTIALLY MUCH MORE SINISTER NEXUS BETWEEN IRAQ 82 00:09:17,557 --> 00:09:19,092 AND THE AL-QAEDA TERRORIST NETWORK. 83 00:09:19,159 --> 00:09:21,629 WE DON'T WANT THE SMOKING GUN TO BE A MUSHROOM CLOUD. 84 00:09:21,695 --> 00:09:24,531 {\an8}IRAQ HAS DRONES, AND THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THESE DRONES 85 00:09:24,598 --> 00:09:26,166 {\an8}AND THEY'RE GONNA PUT THEM ON THESE SHIPS 86 00:09:26,233 --> 00:09:29,536 {\an8}AND THEY'RE GONNA ARM THE DRONES WITH CHEMICAL BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS 87 00:09:29,603 --> 00:09:32,039 {\an8}AND THEY'RE GONNA FLY THESE DRONES OFF THE SHIPS 88 00:09:32,105 --> 00:09:34,441 {\an8}AND ATTACK THE EAST COAST OF UNITED STATES. 89 00:09:34,507 --> 00:09:36,576 YOU KNOW, THIS IS ABSOLUTE FANTASY LAND. 90 00:09:36,644 --> 00:09:39,613 THESE PEOPLE WERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE SMOKING, 91 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:41,849 BUT IT MUST HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD. 92 00:09:41,915 --> 00:09:45,252 Narrator: GEORGE W. BUSH'S FOREIGN POLICY INNER CIRCLE-- 93 00:09:45,318 --> 00:09:47,354 CHENEY, RUMSFELD AND WOLFOWITZ-- 94 00:09:47,420 --> 00:09:51,258 SET THE ADMINISTRATION ON COURSE FOR WAR WITH IRAQ. 95 00:09:51,324 --> 00:09:53,827 CONDOLEEZZA RICE SIDED WITH THEM. 96 00:09:53,894 --> 00:09:55,729 COLIN POWELL AND RICHARD ARMITAGE, 97 00:09:55,796 --> 00:09:58,431 THE ONLY SENIOR OFFICIALS WITH COMBAT EXPERIENCE, 98 00:09:58,498 --> 00:10:00,000 EXPRESSED CONCERNS PRIVATELY 99 00:10:00,067 --> 00:10:03,203 BUT SUPPORTED THE ADMINISTRATION IN PUBLIC 100 00:10:09,076 --> 00:10:11,945 BUSH'S ADVISERS HAD BEEN INVOLVED WITH SADDAM HUSSEIN 101 00:10:12,012 --> 00:10:14,782 {\an8}SINCE HE INVADED IRAN IN 1980 102 00:10:14,848 --> 00:10:17,851 {\an8}IN A BRUTAL WAR THAT KILLED NEARLY A MILLION PEOPLE. 103 00:10:17,918 --> 00:10:19,386 {\an8}IRAQ USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS 104 00:10:19,452 --> 00:10:23,090 {\an8}AGAINST BOTH THE IRANIAN MILITARY AND INNOCENT CIVILIANS. 105 00:10:23,156 --> 00:10:24,992 SADDAM INVESTED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS 106 00:10:25,058 --> 00:10:28,195 IN NUCLEAR, CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS PROGRAMS 107 00:10:28,261 --> 00:10:31,932 WHILE MURDERING 300,000 OF HIS OWN CITIZENS. 108 00:10:31,999 --> 00:10:34,367 BUT THE REAGAN ADMINISTRATION, FEARING IRAN, 109 00:10:34,434 --> 00:10:38,471 SUPPORTED SADDAM WITH MILITARY INTELLIGENCE AND ECONOMIC AID. 110 00:10:38,538 --> 00:10:41,809 DONALD RUMSFELD MET WITH SADDAM IN 1983. 111 00:10:41,875 --> 00:10:44,544 COLIN POWELL WAS REAGAN'S NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER 112 00:10:44,611 --> 00:10:47,114 FROM 1987 TO 1989. 113 00:10:47,180 --> 00:10:49,783 THE '80s WERE REALLY SUMMED UP IN A DREADFUL 114 00:10:49,850 --> 00:10:53,453 {\an8}BUT VERY TELLING STATE DEPARTMENT DOCUMENT 115 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,857 {\an8}FROM 1987, WHICH SAID 116 00:10:56,924 --> 00:11:01,962 {\an8}HUMAN RIGHTS AND CHEMICAL WEAPONS USE ASIDE, COMMA, 117 00:11:02,029 --> 00:11:05,498 {\an8}OUR INTERESTS RUN ROUGHLY PARALLEL TO THOSE OF IRAQ. 118 00:11:05,565 --> 00:11:08,936 Narrator: THE IRAN-IRAQ WAR ENDS IN STALEMATE IN 1988. 119 00:11:09,803 --> 00:11:13,040 {\an8}IN 1990, SADDAM INVADES KUWAIT. 120 00:11:13,106 --> 00:11:15,675 {\an8}A U.S.-LED COALITION EXPELS HIM IN A WAR 121 00:11:15,743 --> 00:11:19,112 {\an8}MASTERMINDED BY DICK CHENEY, THEN SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, 122 00:11:19,179 --> 00:11:22,750 {\an8}PAUL WOLFOWITZ, THEN UNDER- SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FOR POLICY, 123 00:11:22,816 --> 00:11:26,920 AND COLIN POWELL, THEN CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF. 124 00:11:26,987 --> 00:11:30,924 THE FIRST PRESIDENT BUSH URGES IRAQIS TO STAGE A COUP AGAINST SADDAM. 125 00:11:30,991 --> 00:11:34,094 {\an8}THERE'S ANOTHER WAY FOR THE BLOODSHED TO STOP 126 00:11:34,161 --> 00:11:39,066 {\an8}AND THAT IS FOR THE IRAQI MILITARY AND THE IRAQI PEOPLE 127 00:11:39,132 --> 00:11:40,901 {\an8}TO TAKE MATTERS INTO THEIR OWN HANDS 128 00:11:40,968 --> 00:11:45,105 AND FORCE SADDAM HUSSEIN THE DICTATOR TO STEP ASIDE. 129 00:11:45,172 --> 00:11:47,640 Narrator: YET WHEN IRAQ'S SOUTHERN SHI'ITES RISE UP, 130 00:11:47,707 --> 00:11:50,310 THE ADMINISTRATION ALLOWS SADDAM TO REPRESS THEM. 131 00:11:50,377 --> 00:11:56,649 {\an8}14 OUT OF IRAQ'S 18 GOVERNORATES WERE UNDER REBEL CONTROL 132 00:11:56,716 --> 00:12:00,620 {\an8}WHEN GENERAL SCHWARTZKOPF ALLOWED SADDAM HUSSEIN 133 00:12:00,687 --> 00:12:03,757 {\an8}TO USE HELICOPTER GUNSHIPS 134 00:12:03,824 --> 00:12:07,594 {\an8}TO MASSACRE THE REBELS' MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN. 135 00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:10,730 Narrator: THE 1991 ARMISTICE REQUIRES IRAQ TO DISARM, 136 00:12:10,798 --> 00:12:13,333 BUT SADDAM REFUSES TO COMPLY. 137 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,602 AS A RESULT, IRAQ'S ECONOMY CRUMBLES 138 00:12:15,668 --> 00:12:19,106 UNDER A U.N. EMBARGO INSTITUTED IN 1993 139 00:12:19,172 --> 00:12:21,975 AND CONTINUED BY THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION. 140 00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:24,444 SADDAM'S FAVORITE ELITE REMAIN WEALTHY, 141 00:12:24,511 --> 00:12:27,680 BUT ORDINARY IRAQIS ARE PLUNGED INTO EXTREME POVERTY 142 00:12:27,747 --> 00:12:31,451 AND MANY TURN TO FUNDAMENTALIST ISLAM. 143 00:12:31,518 --> 00:12:35,022 IN 1993, WHEN GEORGE BUSH SENIOR VISITS KUWAIT, 144 00:12:35,088 --> 00:12:37,858 SADDAM ATTEMPTS TO ASSASSINATE HIM. 145 00:12:37,925 --> 00:12:41,694 SEVEN YEARS LATER, HIS SON IS ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. 146 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:45,298 WHEN YOU SEE THE SAME ARCHITECTS OF THOSE POLICIES 147 00:12:45,365 --> 00:12:46,733 ON THE ONE HAND, TALKING ABOUT 148 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,737 GETTING RIGHT WHAT THEY HAD GOTTEN WRONG BACK IN 1991, 149 00:12:50,804 --> 00:12:52,572 YOU KNOW, FINISHING THE JOB, 150 00:12:52,639 --> 00:12:54,942 {\an8}IT WAS TEMPTING TO SAY, "WELL, MAYBE THEY'VE LEARNED." 151 00:12:56,343 --> 00:12:58,711 {\an8}George W Bush, on TV: SADDAM HUSSEIN AND HIS SONS 152 00:12:58,778 --> 00:13:02,215 {\an8}MUST LEAVE IRAQ WITHIN 48 HOURS. 153 00:13:02,282 --> 00:13:06,119 THEIR REFUSAL TO DO SO WILL RESULT IN MILITARY CONFLICT 154 00:13:06,186 --> 00:13:09,122 COMMENCED AT A TIME OF OUR CHOOSING. 155 00:13:13,793 --> 00:13:16,029 George Packer: IF YOU WANNA DATE THE BEGINNING OF 156 00:13:16,096 --> 00:13:18,298 THE DISASTER OF POST-WAR IRAQ, 157 00:13:18,365 --> 00:13:21,501 IT WOULD BE JANUARY 20TH, 2003, 158 00:13:21,568 --> 00:13:25,305 WHEN BUSH SIGNED WITHOUT, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, 159 00:13:25,372 --> 00:13:29,109 {\an8}ANY REAL DISCUSSION WITHIN THE WHITE HOUSE OR THE ADMINISTRATION, 160 00:13:29,176 --> 00:13:33,346 {\an8}NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE NUMBER 24, 161 00:13:33,413 --> 00:13:36,816 {\an8}WHICH GAVE CONTROL OF POST-WAR IRAQ TO THE PENTAGON. 162 00:13:36,884 --> 00:13:39,853 {\an8}THAT DOCUMENT ESSENTIALLY MADE DONALD RUMSFELD 163 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,555 THE MAIN ACTOR ON POST-WAR IRAQ. 164 00:13:42,622 --> 00:13:45,725 THIS WAR WAS CONCEIVED BY A VERY SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE 165 00:13:45,792 --> 00:13:48,428 {\an8}INSIDE THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. 166 00:13:48,495 --> 00:13:53,766 {\an8}THEY HAD AN ENTIRELY NAIVE VISION OF WHAT IRAQ WAS 167 00:13:53,833 --> 00:13:56,736 {\an8}AND WHAT IRAQIS WOULD DO ONCE THE REGIME FELL. 168 00:13:56,803 --> 00:13:59,973 Narrator: IN FORMULATING ITS VIEWS ON POST-SADDAM IRAQ, 169 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,810 THE ADMINISTRATION RELIED HEAVILY ON A MAN NAMED AHMED CHALABI. 170 00:14:03,877 --> 00:14:06,446 SINCE 1992, CHALABI HAD BEEN PRESIDENT OF 171 00:14:06,513 --> 00:14:09,883 THE IRAQI NATIONAL CONGRESS, OR I.N.C. 172 00:14:09,950 --> 00:14:11,718 WIDELY VIEWED WITH SUSPICION... 173 00:14:11,784 --> 00:14:15,488 CHALABI HAD BEEN CONVICTED IN JORDAN OF A HUGE BANK FRAUD. 174 00:14:15,555 --> 00:14:18,658 THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY FOUND HIS INFORMATION UNRELIABLE 175 00:14:18,725 --> 00:14:20,560 OR EVEN FRAUDULENT. 176 00:14:20,627 --> 00:14:24,431 AT BEST I THINK THEY WERE LIARS 177 00:14:24,497 --> 00:14:26,833 {\an8}AND AT WORST THEY WERE PROVOCATEURS. 178 00:14:26,900 --> 00:14:28,368 {\an8}IF IT'S AN I.N.C. SOURCE 179 00:14:28,435 --> 00:14:32,305 {\an8}IT WAS ALWAYS LOOKED AT VERY, VERY SKEPTICALLY 180 00:14:32,372 --> 00:14:34,274 BY THE ANALYSTS. 181 00:14:34,341 --> 00:14:36,409 BUT THAT WASN'T THE CASE WITH THE POLICY MAKERS. 182 00:14:36,476 --> 00:14:38,511 CHALABI ASSERTED THAT POST-WAR IRAQ 183 00:14:38,578 --> 00:14:41,414 WOULD BE PRO-AMERICAN AND EASILY STABILIZED, 184 00:14:41,481 --> 00:14:44,684 PARTICULARLY IF CHALABI HIMSELF WAS IN CHARGE. 185 00:14:44,751 --> 00:14:47,054 AND SO THE PLAN WAS, ESSENTIALLY, 186 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,622 WE'LL STAY FOR THREE OR FOUR MONTHS 187 00:14:49,689 --> 00:14:53,760 WE WILL INSTALL A GOVERNMENT MADE UP OF EXILES 188 00:14:53,826 --> 00:14:56,829 AND LED BY AHMED CHALABI, 189 00:14:56,896 --> 00:15:00,200 AND THEN IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER OF 2003 190 00:15:00,267 --> 00:15:05,205 WE WILL BEGIN A DRASTIC REDUCTION OF TROOPS. 191 00:15:05,272 --> 00:15:07,807 {\an8}LARRY DI RITA ADDRESSED US IN ONE FORM 192 00:15:07,874 --> 00:15:11,244 {\an8}AND SAID BY THE END OF AUGUST OF 2003 193 00:15:11,311 --> 00:15:15,348 {\an8}WE WILL HAVE ALL BUT 25 TO 30,000 TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ. 194 00:15:15,415 --> 00:15:18,551 {\an8}I HEARD HIM SAY THAT IN A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE, 195 00:15:18,618 --> 00:15:20,453 {\an8}AND I TURNED TO MY COLLEAGUES 196 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,389 AND I SAID, "THIS GUY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. 197 00:15:22,455 --> 00:15:24,457 "IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE." 198 00:15:24,524 --> 00:15:27,660 Narrator: THE STATE DEPARTMENT'S FUTURE OF IRAQ PROJECT, 199 00:15:27,727 --> 00:15:30,197 {\an8}A 13-VOLUME STUDY ON POST-WAR IRAQ, 200 00:15:30,263 --> 00:15:32,232 {\an8}WAS IGNORED BY THE PENTAGON. 201 00:15:32,299 --> 00:15:34,034 {\an8}THERE WAS AN AWFUL LOT OF THINKING AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT. 202 00:15:34,101 --> 00:15:39,106 {\an8}THERE WERE BOARD FEET OF VOLUMES ON HOW WE SHOULD DO THIS. 203 00:15:39,172 --> 00:15:41,208 {\an8}AND ALMOST NONE OF THIS WAS INTEGRATED 204 00:15:41,274 --> 00:15:42,675 INTO THE PENTAGON'S THINKING. 205 00:15:42,742 --> 00:15:46,646 THE SECRETARY'S FRUSTRATION, ALONG WITH MY OWN, GREW, 206 00:15:46,713 --> 00:15:48,815 AS WE WATCHED OUR CAREFUL PLANNING, 207 00:15:48,881 --> 00:15:50,850 OUR DETAILED PLANNING, 208 00:15:50,917 --> 00:15:52,219 ESSENTIALLY DISCARDED 209 00:15:52,285 --> 00:15:54,221 AND THE PEOPLE WHO'D BEEN INVOLVED IN IT 210 00:15:54,287 --> 00:15:55,888 ESSENTIALLY DISCARDED, 211 00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:58,625 SO THAT MORE LOYAL, 212 00:15:58,691 --> 00:16:02,295 IN LINE WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY'S VIEWS AND SO FORTH 213 00:16:02,362 --> 00:16:05,732 PEOPLE COULD BE APPOINTED TO KEY POSITIONS IN IRAQ. 214 00:16:08,035 --> 00:16:11,238 AT THIS HOUR, AMERICAN AND COALITION FORCES 215 00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:13,606 ARE IN THE EARLY STAGES OF MILITARY OPERATIONS 216 00:16:13,673 --> 00:16:16,709 TO DISARM IRAQ, TO FREE ITS PEOPLE, 217 00:16:16,776 --> 00:16:19,712 AND TO DEFEND THE WORLD FROM GRAVE DANGER. 218 00:16:43,103 --> 00:16:44,871 I JOINED THE MARINES BECAUSE I THINK I'VE ALWAYS JUST FELT 219 00:16:44,937 --> 00:16:46,939 IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT JOB, AND I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE 220 00:16:47,006 --> 00:16:49,642 I'D BE CONTENT WITH MYSELF GOING THROUGH LIFE 221 00:16:49,709 --> 00:16:53,546 {\an8}KNOWING THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAD FOUGHT FOR MY FREEDOM. 222 00:16:53,613 --> 00:16:57,850 {\an8}I JOINED THE ARMY TO SUPPORT MY COUNTRY 223 00:16:57,917 --> 00:17:03,190 {\an8}AND I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD THING TO DO, YOU KNOW. 224 00:17:03,256 --> 00:17:12,199 {\an8}IT WAS AN HONOR TO GO THERE AND HELP MY FELLOW SOLDIERS 225 00:17:12,265 --> 00:17:17,104 {\an8}TO DO WHAT THEY TELLED US TO GO AND DO THERE, 226 00:17:17,170 --> 00:17:23,243 {\an8}MAYBE TAKE OUT A DICTATOR OUT OF THE POWER, 227 00:17:23,310 --> 00:17:26,079 {\an8}TO RE-ESTABLISH THE DEMOCRACY. 228 00:17:26,146 --> 00:17:28,348 [RADIO CHATTER] 229 00:17:28,415 --> 00:17:31,451 Omar Fekeiki: I JUST, WAS WAITING FOR THE WAR TO HAPPEN 230 00:17:31,518 --> 00:17:36,989 {\an8}BECAUSE IT WAS THE ONLY RAY OF HOPE I HAD TO LOOK FOR, 231 00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:42,462 {\an8}UM, AND WHEN IT HAPPENED I WAS EXCITED, 232 00:17:42,529 --> 00:17:45,165 {\an8}AND THAT THINGS WILL MOVE SLOWLY 233 00:17:45,232 --> 00:17:48,501 {\an8}BUT TOWARDS BETTER CIRCUMSTANCES. 234 00:17:48,568 --> 00:17:50,270 THANK YOU, MR. BUSH. 235 00:17:50,337 --> 00:17:53,473 Man: WE VERY LIKE MR. BUSH! 236 00:17:53,540 --> 00:17:56,443 Children, chanting: NO, NO, SADDAM! YES, YES, BUSH! 237 00:17:56,509 --> 00:17:59,679 NO, NO, SADDAM! YES, YES, BUSH! 238 00:18:04,884 --> 00:18:10,523 Chris Allbritton: IT WAS JUST A CONFUSING, LOUD, NOISY, SCARY, HOPEFUL PLACE 239 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:12,492 ALL KIND OF WRAPPED UP TOGETHER. 240 00:18:12,559 --> 00:18:16,629 {\an8}I WOULD SEE KIDS WITH SKI CAPS ON THAT SAID "F.B.I." ACROSS IT 241 00:18:16,696 --> 00:18:18,331 {\an8}AND THEY WOULD BE GIVING ME THE BIG THUMBS-UP. 242 00:18:18,398 --> 00:18:20,367 {\an8}AND THEN I WOULD HAVE OTHER YOUNG MEN 243 00:18:20,433 --> 00:18:23,136 WHO WERE PROBABLY FEDAYIN IN CIVILIAN CLOTHES 244 00:18:23,203 --> 00:18:24,704 GIVING ME VERY HARD STARES 245 00:18:24,771 --> 00:18:27,274 AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SIZING ME UP 246 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:29,576 AND ALWAYS KIND OF LOOKING AT THE LICENSE PLATE OF THE CAR. 247 00:18:29,642 --> 00:18:32,345 {\an8}THE IRAQIS WERE WAITING TO SEE 248 00:18:32,412 --> 00:18:34,080 {\an8}WHAT THIS WAS GOING TO BRING THEM. 249 00:18:34,147 --> 00:18:38,351 {\an8}THE PRESENCE OF THE AMERICANS HAD NOT BEEN REJECTED YET 250 00:18:38,418 --> 00:18:39,919 {\an8}BY THE IRAQIS. 251 00:18:39,986 --> 00:18:42,689 NO SADDAM, NO SADDAM! 252 00:18:42,755 --> 00:18:45,958 Omar Fekeiki: I'VE SEEN PEOPLE WELCOMING THE COALITION TROOPS 253 00:18:46,025 --> 00:18:50,863 BECAUSE WE THOUGHT EVERYTHING IS PLANNED, EVERYTHING IS PREPARED. 254 00:18:52,899 --> 00:18:54,000 THERE YA GO. 255 00:18:55,502 --> 00:18:57,770 Narrator: DURING WORLD WAR 2, THE UNITED STATES 256 00:18:57,837 --> 00:19:00,106 STARTED PLANNING THE OCCUPATION OF GERMANY 257 00:19:00,173 --> 00:19:02,141 TWO YEARS IN ADVANCE, 258 00:19:02,209 --> 00:19:04,677 BUT THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T CREATE THE ORGANIZATION 259 00:19:04,744 --> 00:19:06,846 THAT WOULD MANAGE THE OCCUPATION OF IRAQ 260 00:19:06,913 --> 00:19:10,049 UNTIL 60 DAYS BEFORE THE INVASION. 261 00:19:10,116 --> 00:19:13,052 {\an8}O.R.H.A., THE ORGANIZATION FOR RECONSTRUCTION 262 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,121 {\an8}AND HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE 263 00:19:15,188 --> 00:19:18,625 {\an8}REPORTED DIRECTLY TO DEFENSE SECRETARY RUMSFELD. 264 00:19:18,691 --> 00:19:21,794 Jay Garner: I GOT A CALL FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE 265 00:19:21,861 --> 00:19:23,430 IN LATE JANUARY, 266 00:19:23,496 --> 00:19:25,432 {\an8}AND THEY WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO HANDLE 267 00:19:25,498 --> 00:19:27,467 {\an8}HUMANITARIAN AFFAIRS RECONSTRUCTION. 268 00:19:27,534 --> 00:19:32,038 {\an8}Narrator: RETIRED ARMY GENERAL JAY GARNER WAS APPOINTED TO RUN O.R.H.A. 269 00:19:32,104 --> 00:19:35,608 {\an8}IN THE FIRST GULF WAR, HE HAD COMMANDED 22,000 SOLDIERS 270 00:19:35,675 --> 00:19:37,710 RESPONSIBLE FOR HUMANITARIAN OPERATIONS 271 00:19:37,777 --> 00:19:40,647 IN THE KURDISH ZONE OF NORTHERN IRAQ. 272 00:19:40,713 --> 00:19:43,583 THIS TIME, HE WOULD BE RUNNING THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. 273 00:19:43,650 --> 00:19:46,453 Man: DID YOU THINK THAT YOU WERE PREPARED TO RUN IRAQ? 274 00:19:46,519 --> 00:19:49,589 I DON'T THINK WE WERE EVER PREPARED, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, TO-- 275 00:19:49,656 --> 00:19:52,959 {\an8}A TASK OF THAT MAGNITUDE PROBABLY TAKES YEARS TO PREPARE. 276 00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:54,327 {\an8}BUT OF COURSE NOBODY HAD YEARS. 277 00:19:54,394 --> 00:19:56,629 {\an8}I GOT A PHONE CALL ON MY CELL PHONE 278 00:19:56,696 --> 00:19:59,065 {\an8}FROM SOMEONE AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT 279 00:19:59,131 --> 00:20:01,968 {\an8}TELLING ME THAT RICH ARMITAGE WAS LOOKING FOR ME 280 00:20:02,034 --> 00:20:05,104 {\an8}AND WANTED ME BACK IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW. 281 00:20:05,171 --> 00:20:08,675 AMBASSADOR BARBARA BODINE WAS PLACED IN CHARGE OF BAGHDAD 282 00:20:08,741 --> 00:20:10,810 ONLY THREE WEEKS BEFORE THE WAR. 283 00:20:10,877 --> 00:20:12,779 SHE WAS A CAREER FOREIGN SERVICE OFFICER 284 00:20:12,845 --> 00:20:14,814 WHO HAD SERVED IN YEMEN, IRAQ, 285 00:20:14,881 --> 00:20:17,384 AND HAD BEEN A HOSTAGE IN KUWAIT FOR FIVE MONTHS 286 00:20:17,450 --> 00:20:19,852 AFTER SADDAM'S INVASION IN 1990. 287 00:20:19,919 --> 00:20:22,589 SHE WAS ONE OF THE FEW STATE DEPARTMENT MID-EAST EXPERTS 288 00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:25,458 THAT THE PENTAGON ALLOWED INTO IRAQ. 289 00:20:25,525 --> 00:20:26,793 {\an8}SHE WAS ONE OF THE FEW WE COULD GET IN. 290 00:20:26,859 --> 00:20:28,728 {\an8}I THOUGHT THAT THEY INITIALLY MADE A MISTAKE-- 291 00:20:28,795 --> 00:20:30,797 {\an8}THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD A WOMAN AND SHE'D BE AN EASY MARK-- 292 00:20:30,863 --> 00:20:32,999 {\an8}BUT BARBARA'S ONE OF THE TOUGHEST MEMBERS OF THE SERVICE. 293 00:20:33,065 --> 00:20:35,702 Narrator: BY 2003, ARMY COLONEL PAUL HUGHES 294 00:20:35,768 --> 00:20:37,670 HAD WORKED IN THE PENTAGON FOR SIX YEARS 295 00:20:37,737 --> 00:20:39,272 DOING PLANNING AND STRATEGY WORK 296 00:20:39,339 --> 00:20:41,541 FOR SENIOR DEFENSE DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS. 297 00:20:41,608 --> 00:20:43,343 {\an8}I WOUND UP BEING ASSIGNED 298 00:20:43,410 --> 00:20:47,714 {\an8}TO THE OFFICE OF RECONSTRUCTION AND HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE 299 00:20:47,780 --> 00:20:48,881 {\an8}UNDER JAY GARNER, 300 00:20:48,948 --> 00:20:51,651 {\an8}AND I WAS THE DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC POLICY FOR HIM. 301 00:20:58,725 --> 00:21:01,227 WE WERE GIVEN A SUITE OF OFFICES 302 00:21:01,294 --> 00:21:04,063 THAT HAD BEEN UNOCCUPIED FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS, 303 00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:06,933 HAD NO COMPUTERS IN IT, YOU HAVE PEOPLE SHOWING UP DAILY 304 00:21:06,999 --> 00:21:08,401 ASKING, "WHERE DO I SIT?" 305 00:21:08,468 --> 00:21:11,571 THEY HAD NO STAFF, I HAD NO PERSONNEL. 306 00:21:11,638 --> 00:21:15,241 I HAD NOTHING FROM EITHER A SENIOR DEPUTY 307 00:21:15,308 --> 00:21:16,709 DOWN TO A SECRETARY. 308 00:21:16,776 --> 00:21:19,412 THERE WAS ONLY ONE MEETING AT THE NATIONAL DEFENSE UNIVERSITY 309 00:21:19,479 --> 00:21:22,315 AND IT WAS THE--I THINK THE CONSENSUS OPINION 310 00:21:22,382 --> 00:21:24,517 OF THE PEOPLE WHO WENT TO THAT MEETING 311 00:21:24,584 --> 00:21:27,487 WITH WHOM I SPOKE AFTERWARDS, UM... 312 00:21:27,554 --> 00:21:30,823 THAT, HEY, THIS IS CRAZY. 313 00:21:30,890 --> 00:21:33,092 UH, THAT WAS OUR FIRST MEETING, 314 00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:35,895 AND WE'RE NOT GIVEN A WHOLE LOT CONFIDENCE BY THAT FIRST MEETING 315 00:21:35,962 --> 00:21:37,330 BECAUSE, ESSENTIALLY, 316 00:21:37,397 --> 00:21:39,866 WE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING EXCEPT MEET EACH OTHER. 317 00:21:39,932 --> 00:21:43,002 IT WAS COMPLETELY UNSTRUCTURED. 318 00:21:43,069 --> 00:21:47,374 THERE WERE NO PLANS. THERE TRULY WERE NO PLANS. 319 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,711 Hughes: ON THE 16TH OF MARCH, O.R.H.A. FLEW OUT TO KUWAIT CITY. 320 00:21:51,778 --> 00:21:54,681 WE HAD 167 PEOPLE THAT FLEW WITH US. 321 00:21:54,747 --> 00:21:57,450 167 PEOPLE THAT WERE TO ESSENTIALLY BECOME 322 00:21:57,517 --> 00:22:00,587 THE GOVERNMENT OF A COUNTRY OF 25 MILLION. 323 00:22:04,791 --> 00:22:06,192 Seth Moulton: AFTER THE FALL OF BAGHDAD, 324 00:22:06,258 --> 00:22:08,227 WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT REALLY WAS GONNA HAPPEN, 325 00:22:08,294 --> 00:22:10,897 AND THERE CERTAINLY DIDN'T SEEM TO BE MUCH OF A PLAN. 326 00:22:10,963 --> 00:22:12,832 WHAT WE WERE GENERALLY BEING TOLD 327 00:22:12,899 --> 00:22:15,034 IS THAT WE'D BE GETTING BACK ON THE SHIPS, 328 00:22:15,101 --> 00:22:18,671 {\an8}YOU KNOW, WITHIN A MONTH OR TWO OF ESSENTIALLY CONQUERING IRAQ. 329 00:22:27,113 --> 00:22:28,280 {\an8}Bodine: WHILE WE WERE IN KUWAIT 330 00:22:28,347 --> 00:22:30,249 {\an8}WE WERE AS GLUED TO THE TELEVISION SET 331 00:22:30,316 --> 00:22:32,452 {\an8}AS EVERYONE ELSE. 332 00:22:32,519 --> 00:22:37,323 {\an8}THERE WAS THE REALIZATION THAT THERE WAS ABSOLUTE LAWLESSNESS 333 00:22:37,390 --> 00:22:39,926 AND CHAOS GOING ON IN IRAQ. 334 00:22:42,462 --> 00:22:44,196 Allbritton: THE AMERICANS WEREN'T DOING ANYTHING. 335 00:22:44,263 --> 00:22:47,033 {\an8}THEY WOULD SIT AT CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS 336 00:22:47,099 --> 00:22:49,736 {\an8}BUT THEY WOULDN'T ACTUALLY GET OUT OF THE HUMVEES 337 00:22:49,802 --> 00:22:51,604 {\an8}OR OUT OF THE TANKS AND REALLY DO MUCH. 338 00:22:54,874 --> 00:22:58,010 {\an8}Fekeiki: TIME PASSED, AND WE DIDN'T SEE ANY PROGRESS. 339 00:22:58,077 --> 00:23:01,448 {\an8}THE ONLY PROGRESS WE FOUND IS THE UNCONTROLLED FREEDOM. 340 00:23:01,514 --> 00:23:05,017 {\an8}LOOTERS HAD TO LOOT ALL THE GOVERNMENTAL BUILDINGS 341 00:23:05,084 --> 00:23:07,420 {\an8}AND EVEN PRIVATE-OWNED COMPANIES. 342 00:23:07,487 --> 00:23:11,924 {\an8}THE LOOTING WAS PARTLY A FACTOR OF THE TROOP LEVELS 343 00:23:11,991 --> 00:23:16,429 {\an8}AND THE SENSE THAT RUMSFELD COMMUNICATED TO HIS COMMANDERS 344 00:23:16,496 --> 00:23:21,133 {\an8}AND HIS COMMANDERS COMMUNICATED DOWN THE CHAIN TO THE PLATOON 345 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:27,440 {\an8}AND COMPANY LEVEL, THAT WE WERE NOT THERE TO RUN IRAQ, 346 00:23:27,507 --> 00:23:30,109 {\an8}WE WERE THERE TO GET RID OF THE REGIME AND GET OUT. 347 00:23:30,176 --> 00:23:32,545 {\an8}WE'RE NOT UNDER MARTIAL LAW HERE. 348 00:23:32,612 --> 00:23:35,515 {\an8}Hughes: IN HIS ORDER, GENERAL McKIERNAN WAS NOT TOLD 349 00:23:35,582 --> 00:23:38,084 {\an8}TO ESTABLISH MARTIAL LAW. 350 00:23:38,150 --> 00:23:40,820 {\an8}YOU KNOW, NOT ONCE WAS MARTIAL LAW WAS DECLARED. 351 00:23:40,887 --> 00:23:43,856 {\an8}I'LL JUST, I'LL TELL YOU HONESTLY WE'RE IN A TRANSITION PERIOD 352 00:23:43,923 --> 00:23:48,127 {\an8}I MEAN THERE IS AN IRAQI CIVIL LAW BUT THERE'S NO... 353 00:23:48,194 --> 00:23:52,665 {\an8}YOU JUST HEARD THAT WE JUST OPENED UP THE FIRST TWO COURTS TODAY 354 00:23:52,732 --> 00:23:55,001 {\an8}SO I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE STARTING TO NOTHING... 355 00:23:55,067 --> 00:23:56,503 {\an8}HAD MARTIAL LAW BEEN DECLARED, 356 00:23:56,569 --> 00:24:00,607 {\an8}WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED UNDER THE 4TH GENEVA CONVENTION, 357 00:24:00,673 --> 00:24:04,143 {\an8}MAYBE WE WOULD HAVE HAD A BIT MORE SECURITY. 358 00:24:04,210 --> 00:24:05,978 {\an8}WE'RE A PLATOON OF MARINES. I MEAN, WE COULD... 359 00:24:06,045 --> 00:24:08,080 {\an8}WE COULD CERTAINLY STOP LOOTING IF WE... 360 00:24:08,147 --> 00:24:09,716 {\an8}IF THAT WAS OUR ASSIGNED TASK. 361 00:24:09,782 --> 00:24:13,052 {\an8}James Fallows: THE GREATEST MYSTERY OF POST-WAR IRAQ 362 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,955 {\an8}INVOLVES THAT MONTH OR SO AFTER THE FALL OF BAGHDAD 363 00:24:16,022 --> 00:24:18,090 {\an8}OF WHY THE US DIDN'T DO ANYTHING 364 00:24:18,157 --> 00:24:20,693 {\an8}TO CONTROL THE LOOTING BECAUSE, IN A WAY, 365 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,862 {\an8}EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM SINCE THEN 366 00:24:22,929 --> 00:24:24,230 {\an8}STARTED IN THAT FIRST MONTH. 367 00:24:24,296 --> 00:24:26,298 {\an8}PEOPLE AT THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL, 368 00:24:26,365 --> 00:24:28,334 {\an8}SECRETARY POWELL, MYSELF AND OTHERS, 369 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,171 {\an8}UH, C.I.A. DIRECTOR, DID EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT THE LOOTING. 370 00:24:32,238 --> 00:24:34,507 Man: UH, DID YOU EXPRESS ANY CONCERN TO PRESIDENT BUSH? 371 00:24:34,574 --> 00:24:37,443 UH, I WAS AT A MEETING WHERE IT WAS EXPRESSED BY MY BOSS. 372 00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:39,211 Man: TELL ME WHAT MR. POWELL SAID AT THAT MEETING. 373 00:24:39,278 --> 00:24:41,447 WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE GENERALLY WORK. 374 00:24:41,514 --> 00:24:43,650 OUR ADVICE TO THE PRESIDENT IS GENERALLY KEPT THAT WAY, 375 00:24:43,716 --> 00:24:44,684 PRIVATE TO THE PRESIDENT. 376 00:24:44,751 --> 00:24:46,719 Bodine: THE WORD CAME FROM WASHINGTON 377 00:24:46,786 --> 00:24:48,320 THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING INVOLVED IN THAT, 378 00:24:48,387 --> 00:24:50,256 WE'RE NOT GONNA STOP THE LOOTING, 379 00:24:50,322 --> 00:24:52,491 WE'RE NOT DOING POLICE WORK, 380 00:24:52,559 --> 00:24:55,528 THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. AND I THINK... 381 00:24:55,595 --> 00:24:59,365 Man: SO THERE WERE EXPLICIT INSTRUCTIONS FROM WASHINGTON 382 00:24:59,431 --> 00:25:01,067 TO NOT INTERFERE WITH THE LOOTING? 383 00:25:01,133 --> 00:25:02,168 YES. 384 00:25:09,108 --> 00:25:13,913 HOSPITALS, GOVERNMENT OFFICES, UNIVERSITIES, MINISTRIES, 385 00:25:13,980 --> 00:25:17,584 Packer: ONE C.P.A. ESTIMATE HAD THE COST OF THE LOOTING 386 00:25:17,650 --> 00:25:20,753 AT $12 BILLION. 387 00:25:20,820 --> 00:25:26,325 THAT WAS THE REVENUE FOR IRAQ IN 2003-2004. 388 00:25:26,392 --> 00:25:30,296 I PICKED UP A NEWSPAPER TODAY, AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT. 389 00:25:30,362 --> 00:25:33,633 {\an8}I READ EIGHT HEADLINES THAT TALKED ABOUT 390 00:25:33,700 --> 00:25:37,069 {\an8}"CHAOS! VIOLENCE! UNREST!" 391 00:25:37,136 --> 00:25:40,106 {\an8}AND IT JUST WAS, "HENNY PENNY, THE SKY IS FALLING!" 392 00:25:40,172 --> 00:25:42,709 {\an8}JUST IMAGINE THE ROOM, THE SUITE THAT WE WERE SITTING IN, 393 00:25:42,775 --> 00:25:46,445 AND ALL THAT YOU HAVE IS CONCRETE WALLS, EVERYTHING IS GONE. 394 00:25:46,512 --> 00:25:50,116 WE'RE TALKING PEOPLE COMING IN WITH INDUSTRIAL CRANES 395 00:25:50,182 --> 00:25:53,753 AND WALKING OFF WITH PARTS OF A POWER PLANT. 396 00:25:53,820 --> 00:25:55,554 THINK WHAT'S HAPPENED IN OUR CITIES 397 00:25:55,622 --> 00:25:59,726 WHEN WE'VE HAD RIOTS AND PROBLEMS, AND LOOTING. 398 00:25:59,792 --> 00:26:02,261 STUFF HAPPENS! 399 00:26:02,328 --> 00:26:04,563 Moulton: THIS WAS NOT JUST PEOPLE STEALING STUFF FROM GROCERY STORES. 400 00:26:04,631 --> 00:26:08,034 I MEAN, THIS WAS PEOPLE CHIPPING CONCRETE WALLS 401 00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:09,401 INTO LITTLE PIECES 402 00:26:09,468 --> 00:26:10,970 SO THEY COULD TAKE THE REBAR OUT. 403 00:26:11,037 --> 00:26:12,872 THE IMAGES YOU ARE SEEING ON TELEVISION 404 00:26:12,939 --> 00:26:15,708 YOU ARE SEEING OVER AND OVER AND OVER, 405 00:26:15,775 --> 00:26:18,377 AND IT'S THE SAME PICTURE OF SOME PERSON 406 00:26:18,444 --> 00:26:20,780 {\an8}WALKING OUT OF SOME BUILDING WITH A VASE. 407 00:26:20,847 --> 00:26:24,583 {\an8}I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY THE DAY THAT WE LOST THE IRAQIS. 408 00:26:24,651 --> 00:26:27,654 {\an8}AND YOU THINK, "MY GOODNESS! WERE THERE THAT MANY VASES?!" 409 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,122 [LAUGHTER] 410 00:26:30,189 --> 00:26:32,558 IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THERE WERE THAT MANY VASES 411 00:26:32,625 --> 00:26:34,260 IN THE WHOLE COUNTRY? 412 00:26:34,326 --> 00:26:37,529 THAT'S WHEN IT BECAME VERY CLEAR THAT... 413 00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:40,833 {\an8}THIS LIBERATION REALLY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE AVERAGE IRAQI. 414 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:42,168 {\an8}THERE WAS A BELIEF THAT THE AMERICANS 415 00:26:42,234 --> 00:26:43,703 {\an8}ACTUALLY ENCOURAGED THE LOOTING, 416 00:26:43,770 --> 00:26:45,437 {\an8}OR WANTED IT TO HAPPEN. 417 00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:48,040 {\an8}THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR COUNTRY, 418 00:26:48,107 --> 00:26:49,608 {\an8}HOW COULD THEY LET THIS HAPPEN? 419 00:26:49,676 --> 00:26:51,543 {\an8}SO, WHETHER YOU WERE SUNNI OR SHI'AH, 420 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:53,212 {\an8}YOU WERE OUTRAGED ABOUT THE LOOTING. 421 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:57,784 {\an8}WE HAD DONE A LIST OF 20 SITES 422 00:26:57,850 --> 00:27:00,219 {\an8}THAT WE THOUGHT NEEDED TO BE PROTECTED, 423 00:27:00,286 --> 00:27:04,957 {\an8}UM, HISTORICAL, CULTURAL, ARTISTIC, RELIGIOUS. 424 00:27:05,024 --> 00:27:07,059 AND WE HAD PROVIDED THAT 425 00:27:07,126 --> 00:27:10,329 AND IT REALLY MADE NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER. 426 00:27:22,508 --> 00:27:24,877 Narrator: THE IRAQ NATIONAL MUSEUM IN BAGHDAD, 427 00:27:24,944 --> 00:27:26,612 NUMBER ONE ON O.R.H.A.'S LIST, 428 00:27:26,679 --> 00:27:29,248 CONTAINED SOME OF THE WORLD'S MOST IMPORTANT ARTIFACTS 429 00:27:29,315 --> 00:27:31,617 OF EARLY HUMAN CIVILIZATION. 430 00:27:31,684 --> 00:27:33,853 THE MUSEUM WAS NEVER PROTECTED. 431 00:27:40,459 --> 00:27:43,462 Narrator: IRAQ'S NATIONAL LIBRARY AND NATIONAL ARCHIVES 432 00:27:43,529 --> 00:27:46,966 CONTAINING THOUSANDS OF ANCIENT MANUSCRIPTS WERE BURNT DOWN. 433 00:27:47,033 --> 00:27:51,337 ALL WHAT ARE WRITTEN OR WERE WRITTEN 434 00:27:51,403 --> 00:27:53,840 ARE KEPT IN THIS LIBRARY. 435 00:27:53,906 --> 00:27:58,110 NOW WE HAVE NO NATIONAL HERITAGE. 436 00:27:58,177 --> 00:28:01,981 THREE DAYS AGO, ME AND DR. JABAR KHALIL, 437 00:28:02,048 --> 00:28:04,817 CHAIRMAN OF THE STATE BOARD OF ANTIQUITIES, 438 00:28:04,884 --> 00:28:10,022 WENT TO THE HEADQUARTERS OF THE MARINES IN PALESTINE HOTEL. 439 00:28:10,089 --> 00:28:12,191 WE WAITED THERE FOR ABOUT FOUR HOURS 440 00:28:12,258 --> 00:28:14,560 TILL WE MET A COLONEL THERE. 441 00:28:14,626 --> 00:28:19,298 AND AT THAT DAY, HE PROMISED THAT HE WILL SEND ARMORED CARS 442 00:28:19,365 --> 00:28:23,369 TO PROTECT WHAT'S LEFT FROM THE MUSEUM. 443 00:28:23,435 --> 00:28:26,505 THREE DAYS AGO TILL NOW, NOBODY CAME. 444 00:28:26,572 --> 00:28:30,877 TO TRY TO LAY OFF THE FACT OF THAT UNFORTUNATE... 445 00:28:30,943 --> 00:28:32,879 UH, ACTIVITY, UH... 446 00:28:32,945 --> 00:28:35,481 ON--ON A DEFECT IN A WAR PLAN, 447 00:28:35,547 --> 00:28:37,283 IT STRIKES ME AS A STRETCH. 448 00:28:37,349 --> 00:28:42,021 WEREN'T YOU URGED SPECIFICALLY BY SCHOLARS AND OTHERS 449 00:28:42,088 --> 00:28:44,590 ABOUT THE DANGER TO THAT MUSEUM? AND WEREN'T YOU URGED 450 00:28:44,656 --> 00:28:47,326 TO PROVIDE A GREATER LEVEL OF PROTECTION AND SECURITY 451 00:28:47,393 --> 00:28:49,295 IN THE INITIAL PHASES OF THE OPERATION? 452 00:28:49,361 --> 00:28:50,429 NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. 453 00:28:50,496 --> 00:28:52,131 Packer: NO ONE CAN CLAIM THAT THEY WERE CAUGHT 454 00:28:52,198 --> 00:28:53,532 BY SURPRISE BY THE LOOTING, 455 00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:55,534 I JUST DON'T THINK THEY WANTED TO KNOW. 456 00:28:55,601 --> 00:28:56,668 THEY DIDN'T WANNA HEAR IT. 457 00:29:12,684 --> 00:29:14,854 Narrator: IN THE MONTHS LEADING UP TO THE INVASION, 458 00:29:14,921 --> 00:29:17,323 A DEBATE OVER TROOP LEVELS REQUIRED IN IRAQ 459 00:29:17,389 --> 00:29:18,624 HAD BEEN PRIVATELY BREWING 460 00:29:18,690 --> 00:29:22,228 BETWEEN THE MILITARY LEADERSHIP AND DONALD RUMSFELD. 461 00:29:22,294 --> 00:29:24,663 RUMSFELD AND HIS DEPUTY PAUL WOLFOWITZ 462 00:29:24,730 --> 00:29:27,433 BELIEVED THAT A FORCE OF UNDER 100,000 TROOPS 463 00:29:27,499 --> 00:29:28,600 WOULD BE SUFFICIENT 464 00:29:28,667 --> 00:29:31,437 FOR THE INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF IRAQ. 465 00:29:31,503 --> 00:29:33,072 A MONTH BEFORE THE INVASION, 466 00:29:33,139 --> 00:29:35,274 THE FIGHT OVER TROOP LEVELS BECAME PUBLIC 467 00:29:35,341 --> 00:29:38,310 AS THE CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE ARMY, ERIC SHINSEKI, 468 00:29:38,377 --> 00:29:40,913 TESTIFIED BEFORE THE SENATE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE, 469 00:29:40,980 --> 00:29:43,249 IGNORING PRESSURE FROM RUMSFELD AND WOLFOWITZ. 470 00:29:43,315 --> 00:29:46,118 Carl Levin: GENERAL SHINSEKI, UH... 471 00:29:46,185 --> 00:29:48,787 COULD YOU GIVE US SOME IDEA AS TO THE MAGNITUDE 472 00:29:48,855 --> 00:29:50,789 OF THE ARMY'S FORCE REQUIREMENT 473 00:29:50,857 --> 00:29:53,025 FOR AN OCCUPATION OF IRAQ? 474 00:29:53,092 --> 00:29:57,163 SOMETHING ON THE ORDER OF SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND SOLDIERS 475 00:29:57,229 --> 00:30:02,902 ARE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, A FIGURE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. 476 00:30:05,304 --> 00:30:08,040 WHAT IS, I THINK, REASONABLY CERTAIN HERE IS... 477 00:30:08,107 --> 00:30:11,477 THE IDEA THAT IT WOULD TAKE SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND U.S. FORCES 478 00:30:11,543 --> 00:30:13,846 I THINK IS FAR FROM THE MARK. 479 00:30:13,913 --> 00:30:16,482 IT'S HARD TO CONCEIVE THAT IT WOULD TAKE MORE FORCES 480 00:30:16,548 --> 00:30:19,451 TO PROVIDE STABILITY IN POST-SADDAM IRAQ 481 00:30:19,518 --> 00:30:21,620 THAN IT WOULD TAKE TO CONDUCT THE WAR ITSELF 482 00:30:21,687 --> 00:30:24,056 AND TO SECURE THE SURRENDER OF SADDAM'S SECURITY FORCES 483 00:30:24,123 --> 00:30:27,059 AND HIS ARMY. HARD TO IMAGINE. 484 00:30:27,126 --> 00:30:29,728 HARD TO IMAGINE. 485 00:30:29,795 --> 00:30:32,764 ANYONE WHO HAD ANY EXPERIENCE 486 00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:37,536 IN THE INTERVENTIONS OF THE '90S KNEW THAT THE OPPOSITE WAS TRUE. 487 00:30:37,603 --> 00:30:42,508 YOU NEED X NUMBERS OF SOLDIERS PER THOUSAND CITIZENS 488 00:30:42,574 --> 00:30:47,479 SIMPLY TO PROVIDE A MODICUM OF SECURITY. 489 00:30:47,546 --> 00:30:49,581 BUT PAUL WOLFOWITZ COULDN'T IMAGINE IT. 490 00:30:53,819 --> 00:30:57,156 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POST-HOSTILITIES, 491 00:30:57,223 --> 00:31:01,961 CONTROL OVER A PIECE OF GEOGRAPHY THAT'S FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT 492 00:31:02,028 --> 00:31:06,298 WITH, UH, THE KINDS OF ETHNIC TENSIONS 493 00:31:06,365 --> 00:31:09,936 THAT COULD LEAD TO OTHER PROBLEMS, 494 00:31:10,002 --> 00:31:13,739 AND SO IT TAKES A SIGNIFICANT GROUND FORCE PRESENCE. 495 00:31:13,805 --> 00:31:15,707 {\an8}DID GENERAL SHINSEKI GET IT RIGHT? 496 00:31:15,774 --> 00:31:17,609 {\an8}HE WAS ASKED FOR HIS BEST MILITARY OPINION, 497 00:31:17,676 --> 00:31:19,745 {\an8}AND HIS EXPERIENCE EXCEEDS MINE. 498 00:31:19,811 --> 00:31:22,381 {\an8}HE COMMANDED OUR FORCES IN BOSNIA, 499 00:31:22,448 --> 00:31:25,251 {\an8}HE DID IT FOR A YEAR PLUS, 500 00:31:25,317 --> 00:31:27,086 {\an8}HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. 501 00:31:27,153 --> 00:31:31,023 {\an8}SECRETARY POWELL, AND TO THE SAME EXTENT MYSELF, 502 00:31:31,090 --> 00:31:32,891 {\an8}UH, WE ARGUED FOR MORE AND MORE TROOPS 503 00:31:32,959 --> 00:31:35,727 {\an8}AND WE MADE SOME DIFFERENCE, BUT ULTIMATELY 504 00:31:35,794 --> 00:31:38,264 {\an8}WE DIDN'T SEE THAT WE MADE ENOUGH OF A DIFFERENCE. 505 00:31:42,401 --> 00:31:44,536 {\an8}PERSONALLY I FEEL THE WAR WOULD BE GOING DIFFERENTLY 506 00:31:44,603 --> 00:31:46,905 {\an8}IF YOU HAD, UM... 507 00:31:46,973 --> 00:31:49,641 {\an8}LEADERSHIP THAT REALLY UNDERSTOOD, 508 00:31:49,708 --> 00:31:53,012 {\an8}NUMBER ONE, WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE ON THE GROUND, 509 00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:55,781 THAT ACTUALLY SERVED IN THE ARMED FORCES, 510 00:31:55,847 --> 00:32:00,486 AND, NUMBER TWO, REALLY HAD A GOOD MANAGERIAL GRASP 511 00:32:00,552 --> 00:32:02,388 OF MAKING THIS THING WORK. 512 00:32:02,454 --> 00:32:04,123 Narrator: THE SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS 513 00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:06,692 WHO OVERRULED THE MILITARY AND STATE DEPARTMENT 514 00:32:06,758 --> 00:32:09,461 HAD NO EXPERIENCE WITH POST-WAR RECONSTRUCTION EFFORTS 515 00:32:09,528 --> 00:32:11,863 AND LITTLE OR NO MILITARY EXPERIENCE. 516 00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:14,566 CHENEY HAD AVOIDED MILITARY SERVICE DURING VIETNAM 517 00:32:14,633 --> 00:32:16,802 THROUGH FIVE DRAFT DEFERMENTS. 518 00:32:16,868 --> 00:32:21,340 RUMSFELD WAS A NAVY PILOT IN THE 1950S BUT HAD NEVER SEEN COMBAT. 519 00:32:21,407 --> 00:32:24,376 WOLFOWITZ AND RICE HAD NEVER SERVED IN THE MILITARY. 520 00:32:24,443 --> 00:32:26,645 BUSH HAD AVOIDED THE VIETNAM DRAFT 521 00:32:26,712 --> 00:32:29,181 BY JOINING THE TEXAS AIR NATIONAL GUARD. 522 00:32:29,248 --> 00:32:31,350 HE ALSO HAD NO FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE 523 00:32:31,417 --> 00:32:33,785 PRIOR TO BECOMING PRESIDENT. 524 00:32:33,852 --> 00:32:35,454 WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, I SAY WE, 525 00:32:35,521 --> 00:32:38,257 THOSE OF US WHO HAD MILITARY EXPERIENCE, 526 00:32:38,324 --> 00:32:40,892 AND WE WOULD TALK ABOUT THIS OFTEN, UM, 527 00:32:40,959 --> 00:32:42,728 THIS DOESN'T LOOK GOOD. 528 00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:46,332 Narrator: IN MID-APRIL 2003, WITH LOOTING STILL UNDER WAY, 529 00:32:46,398 --> 00:32:49,801 RUMSFELD CANCELED DEPLOYMENT OF THE 1st CAVALRY DIVISION, 530 00:32:49,868 --> 00:32:51,903 A FORCE OF 16,000 SOLDIERS. 531 00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:55,741 IT SHOCKED US. YOU KNOW, HOW CAN YOU TURN OFF THAT DIVISION? 532 00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:59,778 IF WE HAD HAD THAT DIVISION FOLLOWING US INTO IRAQ, 533 00:32:59,845 --> 00:33:02,014 WE WOULD HAVE STABILIZED A LOT MORE OF IRAQ 534 00:33:02,081 --> 00:33:03,915 JUST THROUGH OUR PRESENCE. 535 00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:07,519 Narrator: ON APRIL 19th, O.R.H.A. FINALLY ENTERED IRAQ 536 00:33:07,586 --> 00:33:10,189 TO BEGIN POST-WAR OPERATIONS. 537 00:33:10,256 --> 00:33:12,691 {\an8}OF THE 20 MINISTRIES WE WANTED TO BRING BACK 538 00:33:12,758 --> 00:33:14,260 {\an8}16 OF THOSE BUILDINGS WERE DESTROYED 539 00:33:14,326 --> 00:33:16,528 {\an8}AS A PROD--AS A FUNCTION OF LOOTING. 540 00:33:16,595 --> 00:33:18,097 {\an8}Bodine: WE WERE STARTING FROM ZERO. 541 00:33:18,164 --> 00:33:20,299 {\an8}I MEAN, IF THERE ARE NO DESKS AND THERE ARE NO CHAIRS, 542 00:33:20,366 --> 00:33:21,900 {\an8}THERE ARE NO TYPEWRITERS LEFT, 543 00:33:21,967 --> 00:33:26,072 {\an8}WHERE DO WE GO AND MEET THE IRAQI'S TO START WORKING? 544 00:33:26,138 --> 00:33:28,340 {\an8}THERE WAS NO STRUCTURE LEFT, UM, 545 00:33:28,407 --> 00:33:30,309 {\an8}PHYSICAL STRUCTURE OR BUREAUCRATIC STRUCTURE. 546 00:33:30,376 --> 00:33:31,777 {\an8}I HAD TO PUT PEOPLE OUT ON THE STREET 547 00:33:31,843 --> 00:33:33,579 {\an8}WALKING AROUND ASKING, "DO YOU KNOW ANYBODY THAT'S IN-- 548 00:33:33,645 --> 00:33:35,013 {\an8}"DO YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE IN MINISTRY OF HEALTH? 549 00:33:35,081 --> 00:33:36,782 {\an8}"DO YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE MINISTRY OF THE INTERIOR? 550 00:33:36,848 --> 00:33:38,984 {\an8}"DO YOU KNOW THE PEOPLE IN THE MINISTRY OF EDUCATION?" 551 00:33:39,051 --> 00:33:43,522 {\an8}WITHIN THE GROUP ITSELF, WE HAD... 552 00:33:43,589 --> 00:33:48,127 I THINK PROBABLY FIVE WHO SPOKE ANY AMOUNT OF ARABIC. 553 00:33:48,194 --> 00:33:50,262 Bodine: WE HAD NO PHONE LISTS, 554 00:33:50,329 --> 00:33:51,730 WE HAD NO PHONES FOR A WHILE, 555 00:33:51,797 --> 00:33:54,666 SO I GUESS HAVING A PHONE LIST WAS NOT REALLY THAT IMPORTANT. 556 00:33:54,733 --> 00:33:57,035 WE HAD NO INFORMATION, WE HAD NO PLACE TO GO, 557 00:33:57,103 --> 00:33:58,837 WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO TO CONTACT. 558 00:33:58,904 --> 00:34:01,740 UM, NOT THE BEST WAY TO-- 559 00:34:01,807 --> 00:34:04,009 {\an8}NOT THE BEST WAY TO START AN OCCUPATION. 560 00:34:04,076 --> 00:34:08,214 {\an8}AND WHAT FOLLOWED WAS THIS PERVASIVE SENSE OF LAWLESSNESS 561 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,781 {\an8}THAT IRAQ NEVER RECOVERED FROM. 562 00:34:09,848 --> 00:34:11,417 {\an8}AND GUYS WITH GUNS TOOK OVER 563 00:34:11,483 --> 00:34:13,051 {\an8}AND THEY WERE THE IRAQI GUYS WITH GUNS. 564 00:34:18,157 --> 00:34:19,825 {\an8}[GUNFIRE] 565 00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:23,862 {\an8}Hughes: THE FIREFIGHTS I GOT CAUGHT UP IN 566 00:34:23,929 --> 00:34:27,032 {\an8}WERE NOT FIREFIGHTS WHERE AMERICANS WERE BEING ATTACKED, 567 00:34:27,099 --> 00:34:29,301 {\an8}IT WAS IRAQI ON IRAQI FIREFIGHTS. 568 00:34:29,368 --> 00:34:31,403 {\an8}YOU'D JUST BE DRIVING DOWN THE STREET AND SUDDENLY 569 00:34:31,470 --> 00:34:34,840 {\an8}THERE IS A FUSILLADE OF FIRE THAT JUST OPENS UP ON YOU, 570 00:34:34,906 --> 00:34:36,642 {\an8}AND YOU'RE JUST IN THE MIDDLE OF THESE GUYS 571 00:34:36,708 --> 00:34:37,876 {\an8}SHOOTING AT EACH OTHER. 572 00:34:37,943 --> 00:34:39,845 {\an8}Packer: THE STREETS WERE CHAOTIC, 573 00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:42,248 {\an8}PEOPLE COULD KILL AND GET AWAY WITH IT, 574 00:34:42,314 --> 00:34:44,183 {\an8}THERE WAS NO WORKING POLICE FORCE. 575 00:34:44,250 --> 00:34:46,118 {\an8}JUST PRIOR TO THE INVASION, 576 00:34:46,185 --> 00:34:48,554 {\an8}SADDAM RELEASED ABOUT 100,000 PRISONERS, 577 00:34:48,620 --> 00:34:51,089 {\an8}COMMON CRIMINALS FROM THE JAILS. 578 00:34:53,859 --> 00:34:58,564 {\an8}IN FEBRUARY OF 2003, 579 00:34:58,630 --> 00:35:01,600 {\an8}I GOT AN INVITATION TO COME AND BRIEF THE ADVISORY PANEL 580 00:35:01,667 --> 00:35:03,235 {\an8}THAT ADVISES SECRETARY RUMSFELD 581 00:35:03,302 --> 00:35:05,371 {\an8}ON DEFENSE POLICY MATTERS. 582 00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:08,240 {\an8}WHAT I TOLD THEM WAS THAT, BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCES 583 00:35:08,307 --> 00:35:09,775 {\an8}IN PREVIOUS PEACE OPERATIONS 584 00:35:09,841 --> 00:35:12,944 {\an8}AND ON WHAT HAD HAPPENED IN IRAQ HISTORICALLY, 585 00:35:13,011 --> 00:35:15,814 IT WAS VERY LIKELY THAT IF THE U.S. INTERVENED 586 00:35:15,881 --> 00:35:17,316 AND CAPTURED BAGHDAD 587 00:35:17,383 --> 00:35:20,352 THAT WE WERE LIKELY TO FACE MASSIVE CIVIL DISTURBANCE. 588 00:35:20,419 --> 00:35:23,922 I SUGGESTED THAT WE NEEDED ABOUT 2,500 CONSTABULARY FORCES, 589 00:35:23,989 --> 00:35:27,526 ABOUT 4,000 CIVIL POLICE STREET COPS, 590 00:35:27,593 --> 00:35:29,595 AND THEN TEAMS OF JUDICIAL ADVISORS 591 00:35:29,661 --> 00:35:31,129 AND CORRECTIONS OFFICERS. 592 00:35:31,197 --> 00:35:34,766 IN THE END THEY AGREED THAT WELL, THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA, 593 00:35:34,833 --> 00:35:38,704 THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TIME, BUT MAYBE FOR THE NEXT WAR. 594 00:35:38,770 --> 00:35:41,240 Nir Rosen: PRIOR TO THE WAR, THE BAGHDAD MORGUE RECEIVED 595 00:35:41,307 --> 00:35:42,908 ONE MURDER CASE A MONTH. 596 00:35:42,974 --> 00:35:45,644 WITHIN A MONTH THEY WERE GETTING ABOUT 25 A DAY. 597 00:35:45,711 --> 00:35:47,679 THEY WERE SEEING RAPES OFTEN FOR THE FIRST TIME, 598 00:35:47,746 --> 00:35:48,780 RAPES AND MURDERS. 599 00:35:48,847 --> 00:35:50,716 IRAQI GIRLS WERE BEING KIDNAPPED. 600 00:35:50,782 --> 00:35:52,318 SO IRAQI WOMEN DISAPPEARED FROM THE STREETS, 601 00:35:52,384 --> 00:35:54,886 THEY STOPPED GOING TO SCHOOL, THEY STOPPED DRIVING. 602 00:35:54,953 --> 00:35:57,956 THE AMERICANS WERE NOT ACTING AS THE POLICE. 603 00:35:58,023 --> 00:36:00,592 THEY DIDN'T KNOW THE STREETS OF BAGHDAD, THEY DIDN'T SPEAK THE LANGUAGE, 604 00:36:00,659 --> 00:36:03,595 THEY DIDN'T HAVE INTERPRETERS IN SUFFICIENT NUMBERS 605 00:36:03,662 --> 00:36:06,898 THEY DIDN'T HAVE INTELLIGENCE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON, 606 00:36:06,965 --> 00:36:08,867 SO IT WAS A FREE-FOR-ALL, 607 00:36:08,934 --> 00:36:11,803 AND YOU JUST FELT, OH, THERE'S A VOID HERE. 608 00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:14,506 [IMAM SINGING] 609 00:36:22,581 --> 00:36:25,451 VERY QUICKLY THE MOSQUE CAME IN AND FILLED IN THE VACUUM 610 00:36:25,517 --> 00:36:27,253 THAT THE AMERICANS CREATED 611 00:36:27,319 --> 00:36:29,388 BY GETTING RID OF SADDAM AND LEAVING NOTHING IN HIS PLACE. 612 00:36:29,455 --> 00:36:32,758 IN SHIA NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY VERY QUICKLY ESTABLISHED CONTROL, 613 00:36:32,824 --> 00:36:35,494 AND PARTICULARLY THE CLERICS ASSOCIATED WITH MUQTADA AL-SADR. 614 00:36:35,561 --> 00:36:38,797 Narrator: MUQTADA AL-SADR WAS THE SON OF A FAMOUS SHI'ITE CLERIC, 615 00:36:38,864 --> 00:36:41,767 AND STARTED A BID FOR POWER BASED ON HIS FATHER'S NETWORK 616 00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:43,802 OF MOSQUES AND CHARITIES. 617 00:37:00,986 --> 00:37:03,922 Narrator: ONLY A FEW DAYS AFTER AMERICAN TROOPS ENTERED BAGHDAD, 618 00:37:03,989 --> 00:37:07,125 HE ASSASSINATED A PRO-AMERICAN SHI'ITE LEADER. 619 00:37:07,192 --> 00:37:11,297 THEN HE BEGAN CREATING A HEAVILY ARMED MILITIA, THE MAHDI ARMY, 620 00:37:11,363 --> 00:37:13,565 WHICH TOOK OVER BAGHDAD'S SHI'ITE GHETTO 621 00:37:13,632 --> 00:37:15,334 AND MUCH OF SOUTHERN IRAQ. 622 00:37:15,401 --> 00:37:18,103 Samantha Power: IF YOU TENDED TO THE ISSUES OF POLICING, 623 00:37:18,169 --> 00:37:19,838 IF THERE HADN'T BEEN THE LOOTING, 624 00:37:19,905 --> 00:37:21,307 THEN YOU WOULDN'T HAVE HAD PEOPLE TURNING 625 00:37:21,373 --> 00:37:22,474 TO SECTARIAN MILITIAS 626 00:37:22,541 --> 00:37:25,544 AS THEIR SOURCES OF NEIGHBORHOOD SECURITY. 627 00:37:25,611 --> 00:37:28,614 Narrator: O.R.H.A. WORKED ON RECALLING THE IRAQI MILITARY 628 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,882 TO DEAL WITH THE SECURITY VACUUM. 629 00:37:30,949 --> 00:37:34,886 THE ARMY CENTRAL COMMAND, CENTCOM, SUPPORTED THIS POLICY. 630 00:37:34,953 --> 00:37:37,589 WHAT CENTCOM HAD DONE, THEY HAD FACTORED INTO THEIR PLANNING 631 00:37:37,656 --> 00:37:39,024 THE BRINGING BACK OF THE IRAQI ARMY. 632 00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:40,826 THEY USED THE IRAQI ARMY TO SEAL THE BORDERS, 633 00:37:40,892 --> 00:37:43,194 TO PROVIDE STATIC SECURITY THINGS 634 00:37:43,261 --> 00:37:45,364 AND ALSO HELP IN THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THEIR OWN NATION. 635 00:37:49,435 --> 00:37:51,537 RUMSFELD CALLED ME AND HE SAID, "HEY, JAY, 636 00:37:51,603 --> 00:37:53,672 "I LIKE EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, 637 00:37:53,739 --> 00:37:55,674 "YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB, YOU AND YOUR TEAM, 638 00:37:55,741 --> 00:37:57,643 "GLAD YOU'RE NOW IN BAGHDAD AND ALL THAT, AND BY THE WAY, 639 00:37:57,709 --> 00:38:00,912 {\an8}"THE PRESIDENT IS APPOINTING JERRY BREMER 640 00:38:00,979 --> 00:38:02,314 {\an8}"AS THE PRESIDENTIAL ENVOY." 641 00:38:05,183 --> 00:38:07,953 {\an8}Narrator: BREMER WAS A FORMER FOREIGN SERVICE OFFICER. 642 00:38:08,019 --> 00:38:09,588 {\an8}LIKE MOST OFFICIALS SENT TO IRAQ, 643 00:38:09,655 --> 00:38:11,256 {\an8}BREMER DID NOT SPEAK ARABIC, 644 00:38:11,323 --> 00:38:13,492 {\an8}HAD NO PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WITH THE MID-EAST 645 00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:15,627 {\an8}OR POST-WAR RECONSTRUCTION 646 00:38:15,694 --> 00:38:18,330 {\an8}AND HAD NEVER SERVED IN THE MILITARY. 647 00:38:18,397 --> 00:38:21,199 {\an8}AFTER BREMER'S ARRIVAL, O.R.H.A. WOULD BE PHASED OUT 648 00:38:21,266 --> 00:38:24,135 {\an8}AND THE COALITION PROVISIONAL AUTHORITY, C.P.A., 649 00:38:24,202 --> 00:38:26,037 {\an8}WOULD TAKE ITS PLACE. 650 00:38:26,104 --> 00:38:29,708 {\an8}Bremer: WE INTEND TO HAVE A VERY EFFECTIVE, EFFICIENT 651 00:38:29,775 --> 00:38:34,112 {\an8}AND WELL-ORGANIZED HANDOVER. UH... 652 00:38:34,179 --> 00:38:38,049 {\an8}GENERAL GARNER AND I ARE PLEDGED TO WORKING VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER. 653 00:38:38,116 --> 00:38:39,385 {\an8}HE'S DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB. 654 00:38:39,451 --> 00:38:41,119 Garner: WE SET UP A SERIES OF BRIEFINGS FOR HIM, 655 00:38:41,186 --> 00:38:43,121 HE SPENT A DAY GOING THROUGH WHAT EVERYBODY WAS DOING, 656 00:38:43,188 --> 00:38:44,756 AND THEN HE TOOK CHARGE. 657 00:38:44,823 --> 00:38:47,158 I CAME HOME LIKE 3rd OR 4th OR 5th OF JUNE. 658 00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:56,234 Narrator: BETWEEN MAY 1st AND HIS DEPARTURE FOR IRAQ ON MAY 10th, 659 00:38:56,301 --> 00:38:57,569 BREMER WORKED AT THE PENTAGON 660 00:38:57,636 --> 00:39:00,739 AND MET FREQUENTLY WITH RUMSFELD, WOLFOWITZ 661 00:39:00,806 --> 00:39:03,274 AND UNDER-SECRETARY DOUG FEITH. 662 00:39:03,341 --> 00:39:06,111 BREMER ALSO WORKED CLOSELY WITH WALTER SLOCOMBE, 663 00:39:06,177 --> 00:39:08,046 A FORMER UNDER-SECRETARY OF DEFENSE 664 00:39:08,113 --> 00:39:11,617 WHOM RUMSFELD HAD APPOINTED TO BE IN CHARGE OF POST-WAR POLICY 665 00:39:11,683 --> 00:39:13,084 FOR IRAQ'S MILITARY. 666 00:39:13,151 --> 00:39:16,087 Slocombe: THEY CONTACTED ME IN MID-MARCH OF 2003. 667 00:39:16,154 --> 00:39:18,156 {\an8}Man: DID IT CROSS YOUR MIND TO THINK, YOU KNOW, 668 00:39:18,223 --> 00:39:22,694 {\an8}ISN'T IT KIND OF LATE FOR THEM TO BE THINKING ABOUT THIS? 669 00:39:22,761 --> 00:39:24,463 {\an8}YES. 670 00:39:27,165 --> 00:39:28,400 {\an8}Man: DID YOU TELL THEM THAT? 671 00:39:28,467 --> 00:39:30,035 {\an8}NO. 672 00:39:30,101 --> 00:39:31,236 {\an8}Narrator: LIKE BREMER, 673 00:39:31,302 --> 00:39:33,304 {\an8}SLOCOMBE HAD NEVER SERVED IN THE MILITARY, 674 00:39:33,371 --> 00:39:34,673 {\an8}HAD NEVER BEEN TO IRAQ, 675 00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:37,242 {\an8}HAD NO POST-WAR RECONSTRUCTION EXPERIENCE 676 00:39:37,308 --> 00:39:39,745 {\an8}AND SPOKE NO ARABIC. 677 00:39:39,811 --> 00:39:41,713 {\an8}IN BREMER'S FIRST 10 DAYS AT WORK, 678 00:39:41,780 --> 00:39:43,449 {\an8}WHILE STILL IN WASHINGTON D.C., 679 00:39:43,515 --> 00:39:46,351 {\an8}HE MADE THREE FATEFUL POLICY DECISIONS. 680 00:39:46,418 --> 00:39:49,020 {\an8}HIS FIRST DECISION WAS TO STOP THE FORMATION 681 00:39:49,087 --> 00:39:51,056 {\an8}OF AN INTERIM IRAQI GOVERNMENT, 682 00:39:51,122 --> 00:39:54,025 {\an8}EVEN THOUGH JAY GARNER HAD BEEN WORKING TO ESTABLISH ONE. 683 00:39:54,092 --> 00:39:55,326 {\an8}Armitage: JAY GARNER WAS CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE 684 00:39:55,393 --> 00:39:57,362 {\an8}THAT THEY GET SOME GOVERNING BODY OF IRAQIS, 685 00:39:57,429 --> 00:40:02,167 {\an8}BUT, UH, THIS WAS DONE AWAY WITH ON THE WAY TO BAGHDAD 686 00:40:02,233 --> 00:40:04,402 {\an8}AND I DIDN'T THINK GENERAL GARNER KNEW ABOUT IT BEFOREHAND 687 00:40:04,470 --> 00:40:06,137 {\an8}AND NOR DID I. 688 00:40:06,204 --> 00:40:12,077 {\an8}WE HAD EXPECTED, AND I THINK I CAN SAY WE HAD BEEN PROMISED 689 00:40:12,143 --> 00:40:14,245 {\an8}THAT THERE WOULD BE A SOVEREIGN GOVERNMENT 690 00:40:14,312 --> 00:40:15,814 VIRTUALLY IMMEDIATELY. 691 00:40:15,881 --> 00:40:22,320 "I'M IN CHARGE AND EVERYONE WILL DO WHAT I SAY, AND THAT'S IT. 692 00:40:22,387 --> 00:40:23,455 "UNDERSTAND?" 693 00:40:23,522 --> 00:40:25,991 AND THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY, UH, 694 00:40:26,057 --> 00:40:27,926 L. PAUL BREMER CAME ACROSS. 695 00:40:27,993 --> 00:40:33,131 MUCH, MUCH, MUCH TOO HARD-CORE AND TOO MISSION-DRIVEN 696 00:40:33,198 --> 00:40:36,902 TO SEE THAT HIS EXCLUSION OF THE IRAQIS EARLY ON 697 00:40:36,968 --> 00:40:39,738 FROM MAJOR PARTICIPATION IN THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS 698 00:40:39,805 --> 00:40:41,139 WAS A GRIEVOUS ERROR. 699 00:40:46,377 --> 00:40:51,182 IN MAY OF 2003, WE GOT THE-- THE LEGAL OCCUPATION OF IRAQ. 700 00:40:51,249 --> 00:40:53,485 I SAID AT THAT TIME, AND I BELIEVE NOW, 701 00:40:53,552 --> 00:40:56,087 THAT THAT WAS A MISTAKE. 702 00:40:56,154 --> 00:40:57,322 WE WANT THE AMERICAN TROOPS 703 00:40:57,388 --> 00:40:59,324 BASICALLY TO LEAVE IRAQ COMPLETELY 704 00:40:59,390 --> 00:41:02,861 AND LET THE IRAQI PEOPLE BASICALLY TO RULE IRAQ. 705 00:41:02,928 --> 00:41:04,996 Narrator: THE REACTION TO HIS NEXT TWO DECISIONS 706 00:41:05,063 --> 00:41:06,164 WOULD BE DRAMATICALLY WORSE. 707 00:41:07,733 --> 00:41:09,935 DE-BA'ATHIFICATION 708 00:41:10,001 --> 00:41:14,673 I AM TODAY ESTABLISHING AN IRAQI DE-BA'ATHIFICATION COUNCIL 709 00:41:14,740 --> 00:41:17,576 TO ENSURE THAT THE STRUCTURE AND INFLUENCE 710 00:41:17,643 --> 00:41:19,878 OF THE BA'ATH PARTY IS ELIMINATED FOR GOOD. 711 00:41:19,945 --> 00:41:21,212 Narrator: BREMER'S SECOND DECISION, 712 00:41:21,279 --> 00:41:24,115 HIS FIRST FORMAL ORDER AS HEAD OF THE C.P.A., 713 00:41:24,182 --> 00:41:27,553 PURGED AN ESTIMATED 50,000 MEMBERS OF THE BA'ATH PARTY, 714 00:41:27,619 --> 00:41:30,121 WHICH SADDAM HAD USED TO RULE IRAQ. 715 00:41:30,188 --> 00:41:33,725 FOR MOST, BREMER'S ORDER MEANT PERMANENT UNEMPLOYMENT. 716 00:41:33,792 --> 00:41:36,027 THE POLICY ALSO CRIPPLED IRAQ'S GOVERNMENT, 717 00:41:36,094 --> 00:41:38,329 EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM AND ECONOMY 718 00:41:38,396 --> 00:41:40,298 BECAUSE IT PURGED SENIOR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS 719 00:41:40,365 --> 00:41:41,399 WHO HAD JOINED THE PARTY 720 00:41:41,466 --> 00:41:44,135 SIMPLY TO SURVIVE UNDER SADDAM'S REGIME. 721 00:41:44,202 --> 00:41:46,237 I WAS WALKING DOWN THE HALL AND AMBASSADOR ROBIN RAPHEL 722 00:41:46,304 --> 00:41:47,739 CAME TO ME AND SAID, "HAVE YOU SEEN THIS?" 723 00:41:47,806 --> 00:41:48,974 I SAID, "WHAT IS IT, ROBIN?" 724 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,042 SHE SAYS, "DE-BA'ATHIFICATION." 725 00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:53,311 SO I READ IT REAL QUICK AND I SAID, 726 00:41:53,378 --> 00:41:55,113 "I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO THIS." 727 00:41:55,180 --> 00:41:57,415 SHE SAID, "WELL, I THINK YOU OUGHT TO GO TALK TO JERRY." 728 00:41:57,482 --> 00:41:59,217 SO WE WENT TO SEE HIM AND I SAID, 729 00:41:59,284 --> 00:42:00,752 "HOW ABOUT LETTING US GO THROUGH THIS 730 00:42:00,819 --> 00:42:02,220 "AND LET'S GET ON THE PHONE WITH RUMSFELD 731 00:42:02,287 --> 00:42:03,488 "AND SEE IF WE CAN SOFTEN THIS A LITTLE BIT." 732 00:42:03,555 --> 00:42:05,490 AND HE SAID, "NO, I DON'T HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY. 733 00:42:05,557 --> 00:42:07,225 "I'VE BEEN GIVEN MY ORDERS AND I'M GOING TO EXECUTE 'EM." 734 00:42:07,292 --> 00:42:08,794 SO THAT ENDED THAT DISCUSSION. 735 00:42:08,860 --> 00:42:11,997 {\an8}HE MAY HAVE COME IN AND SPOKEN TO ME AT GREAT LENGTH ABOUT IT, 736 00:42:12,063 --> 00:42:13,865 {\an8}I JUST DON'T REMEMBER IT, HONESTLY DON'T REMEMBER IT. 737 00:42:13,932 --> 00:42:15,901 {\an8}Interviewer: YOU DON'T REMEMBER THESE GUYS COMING IN AND SAYING, 738 00:42:15,967 --> 00:42:18,269 {\an8}"THIS IS 30 TO 50,000 PEOPLE"? DOESN'T MEAN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. 739 00:42:18,336 --> 00:42:19,304 {\an8}"MY GOD, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?" 740 00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:20,872 {\an8}I JUST DON'T-- 741 00:42:20,939 --> 00:42:23,341 {\an8}YOU KNOW, I WAS WORKING 20 HOURS A DAY IN THAT PERIOD AS WELL. 742 00:42:23,408 --> 00:42:26,211 {\an8}THIS WASN'T THE ONLY THING ON MY LIST OF THINGS TO DO 743 00:42:26,277 --> 00:42:28,113 {\an8}THE FIRST FIVE DAYS I WAS THERE. 744 00:42:28,179 --> 00:42:30,081 {\an8}Narrator: BREMER APPOINTED AHMED CHALABI 745 00:42:30,148 --> 00:42:32,483 {\an8}TO HEAD THE DE-BA'ATHIFICATION COUNCIL. 746 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:35,787 {\an8}CHALABI USED THE POSITION TO ELIMINATE POLITICAL RIVALS. 747 00:42:35,854 --> 00:42:38,156 {\an8}DE-BA'ATHIFICATION WAS SO DEEP 748 00:42:38,223 --> 00:42:40,458 {\an8}THAT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THE GOVERNMENT RUNNING 749 00:42:40,525 --> 00:42:42,193 {\an8}AS EFFICIENTLY AS WE SHOULD HAVE, 750 00:42:42,260 --> 00:42:43,394 {\an8}AS FAST AS WE SHOULD HAVE, 751 00:42:43,461 --> 00:42:46,798 {\an8}AND YOU HAD A LOT OF DISENFRANCHISED BA'ATHISTS. 752 00:42:49,367 --> 00:42:52,370 {\an8}Amazia Baram: THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE KICKED OUT OF THEIR JOBS 753 00:42:52,437 --> 00:42:56,041 {\an8}EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE JUST PROFESSIONALS, 754 00:42:56,107 --> 00:42:59,210 {\an8}ENGINEERS, UH, DIRECTORS. 755 00:42:59,277 --> 00:43:01,980 {\an8}THE TECHNOCRATS, THE INTELLIGENTSIA, 756 00:43:02,047 --> 00:43:04,883 THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL LIBRARIAN. 757 00:43:04,950 --> 00:43:07,218 BEING CONQUERED AND THEN LOSING YOUR JOB 758 00:43:07,285 --> 00:43:09,688 AND NOT HAVING ANY MEANS TO SUPPORT YOURSELF OR YOUR FAMILY, 759 00:43:09,755 --> 00:43:12,390 WAS AN INCREDIBLY HUMILIATING EXPERIENCE. 760 00:43:16,762 --> 00:43:18,830 Narrator: IT WAS BREMER'S THIRD DECISION, HOWEVER, 761 00:43:18,897 --> 00:43:21,266 THAT WAS THE MOST EXPLOSIVE. 762 00:43:22,801 --> 00:43:26,571 DISBANDING THE IRAQI MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE SERVICES, 763 00:43:26,638 --> 00:43:28,974 THE MOST IMPORTANT INSTITUTIONS IN IRAQ. 764 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,441 C.P.A. ORDER NUMBER TWO 765 00:43:30,508 --> 00:43:33,511 DISBANDED THE IRAQI ARMY, REPUBLICAN GUARD, 766 00:43:33,578 --> 00:43:36,181 SPECIAL REPUBLICAN GUARD AND SECRET POLICE. 767 00:43:36,247 --> 00:43:38,216 OVERNIGHT, BREMER RENDERED UNEMPLOYED 768 00:43:38,283 --> 00:43:41,486 AND THEREBY INFURIATED HALF A MILLION ARMED MEN, 769 00:43:41,552 --> 00:43:43,989 EQUIVALENT TO FIRING OVER FIVE MILLION PEOPLE 770 00:43:44,055 --> 00:43:45,456 IN THE UNITED STATES. 771 00:43:45,523 --> 00:43:48,760 AND SO THESE MEN, RATHER THAN HELPING TO PREVENT AN INSURGENCY 772 00:43:48,827 --> 00:43:50,829 INSTEAD CREATED ONE. 773 00:43:58,169 --> 00:43:59,838 I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY DID THAT. 774 00:43:59,905 --> 00:44:04,375 HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES DEPENDED ON THE ARMY. 775 00:44:04,442 --> 00:44:07,679 THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN INCOME, THEY DIDN'T HAVE PROVIDERS. 776 00:44:07,746 --> 00:44:13,919 {\an8}WE VERY HUNGRY, NO BREAD, NO FOOD, NO MONEY, WE WANT JOBS. 777 00:44:13,985 --> 00:44:18,690 {\an8}CHILDREN, WOMEN, WIVES, SISTERS, FATHERS, 778 00:44:18,757 --> 00:44:23,194 {\an8}UM, STOPPED EATING BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. 779 00:44:23,261 --> 00:44:26,798 {\an8}OFFICIALLY I THINK IT'S 27% UNEMPLOYMENT, OFFICIALLY. 780 00:44:26,865 --> 00:44:30,201 {\an8}IT'S ALMOST CERTAINLY MUCH HIGHER. 781 00:44:30,268 --> 00:44:32,804 {\an8}I WOULD GUESS ANYWHERE FROM 40 TO 50%. 782 00:44:32,871 --> 00:44:34,873 {\an8}IS IT ANY WONDER THAT MANY OF THESE PEOPLE 783 00:44:34,940 --> 00:44:38,309 {\an8}WHO ALMOST ALL HAD AT LEAST SOME MILITARY TRAINING, 784 00:44:38,376 --> 00:44:40,979 {\an8}SINCE YOU HAD TO SERVE IN THE ARMY IN IRAQ, 785 00:44:41,046 --> 00:44:42,547 {\an8}OR THEY WERE ACTIVE MILITARY, 786 00:44:42,613 --> 00:44:47,786 {\an8}WOULD TURN TO JOINING THE INSURGENCY 787 00:44:47,853 --> 00:44:49,921 {\an8}JUST AS A MEANS TO FEED THEIR FAMILY 788 00:44:49,988 --> 00:44:52,623 {\an8}AND AS A MEANS OF REGAINING SOME OF THAT PRIDE. 789 00:44:52,690 --> 00:44:55,560 {\an8}Narrator: IN DECIDING TO DISBAND THE IRAQI MILITARY, 790 00:44:55,626 --> 00:44:57,262 {\an8}BREMER WAS UNDOING A POLICY 791 00:44:57,328 --> 00:45:01,266 {\an8}SUPPORTED BY BOTH THE U.S. MILITARY AND BY O.R.H.A. 792 00:45:01,332 --> 00:45:03,001 {\an8}Garner: PAUL HUGHES HAD A TEAM 793 00:45:03,068 --> 00:45:05,003 {\an8}THAT WAS SEEKING OUT THE IRAQI ARMY, 794 00:45:05,070 --> 00:45:06,838 {\an8}AND HE WAS BEGINNING TO FIND A LOT OF 'EM, 795 00:45:06,905 --> 00:45:08,774 {\an8}AND HE HAD FOUND A LOT OF 'EM, 796 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,776 {\an8}AND WE HAD MADE OVERTURES TO BRING THEM BACK. 797 00:45:10,842 --> 00:45:13,411 {\an8}THESE SOLDIERS WHEN THEY REGISTERED HAD TO SIGN... 798 00:45:13,478 --> 00:45:15,680 {\an8}OR FILL OUT A QUESTIONNAIRE 799 00:45:15,747 --> 00:45:18,917 {\an8}ABOUT WHO THEY WERE, WHAT UNIT THEY WERE WITH, WHAT THEY DID, 800 00:45:18,984 --> 00:45:20,051 {\an8}WHAT THEIR SKILLS WERE, 801 00:45:20,118 --> 00:45:22,320 {\an8}WHAT MILITARY EQUIPMENT THEY HAD AT HOME, 802 00:45:22,387 --> 00:45:26,157 {\an8}WHAT--JUST A LOT OF INFORMATION 803 00:45:26,224 --> 00:45:28,493 {\an8}THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN USEFUL TO US. 804 00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:30,161 {\an8}AND I WAS COLLECTING ALL OF THAT. 805 00:45:30,228 --> 00:45:32,230 {\an8}Narrator: BUT THE D.O.D. ADVISORY TEAM 806 00:45:32,297 --> 00:45:34,632 {\an8}IN CHARGE OF DEALING WITH THE IRAQI MILITARY, 807 00:45:34,699 --> 00:45:36,334 {\an8}HEADED BY WALTER SLOCOMBE, 808 00:45:36,401 --> 00:45:40,138 {\an8}HAD REMAINED IN WASHINGTON D.C. AND HAD NEVER VISITED IRAQ. 809 00:45:40,205 --> 00:45:42,073 {\an8}I SAID, "I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO GO OUT THERE. 810 00:45:42,140 --> 00:45:44,642 {\an8}"I CAN GET READY BETTER HERE IN WASHINGTON." 811 00:45:44,709 --> 00:45:47,312 {\an8}AND I URGED THEM TIME AND AGAIN 812 00:45:47,378 --> 00:45:49,981 {\an8}IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM FROM BAGHDAD 813 00:45:50,048 --> 00:45:51,682 THAT THEY NEEDED TO GET OVER THERE 814 00:45:51,749 --> 00:45:54,552 BECAUSE THERE WERE PEOPLE WAITING ON THEM 815 00:45:54,619 --> 00:45:56,988 AND ON ONE MAN IN PARTICULAR TO SHOW UP 816 00:45:57,055 --> 00:46:01,026 SO HE COULD MAKE DECISIONS AND GET THE BALL ROLLING. 817 00:46:01,092 --> 00:46:04,395 IN HIS ABSENCE I WAS LEFT WITH THE DUTY 818 00:46:04,462 --> 00:46:06,865 OF HAVING TO DEAL WITH THE IRAQI ARMY 819 00:46:06,932 --> 00:46:09,000 JUST TO KEEP CONTACT WITH THEM. 820 00:46:09,067 --> 00:46:13,839 Lawrence Wilkerson: THE IRAQI ARMY WAS ESSENTIALLY STANDING THERE WAITING, 821 00:46:13,905 --> 00:46:15,406 THEY WERE WAITING FOR AN OVERTURE, 822 00:46:15,473 --> 00:46:18,043 THEY WERE WAITING FOR WHAT THEY THOUGHT WOULD HAPPEN 823 00:46:18,109 --> 00:46:20,245 {\an8}THAT SOMEONE WOULD COME TO THEM 824 00:46:20,311 --> 00:46:25,650 {\an8}AND SAY, "THIS IS THE PLAN, AND YOU'RE INTEGRAL TO THAT PLAN, 825 00:46:25,716 --> 00:46:27,853 {\an8}"AND WE NEED YOU." 826 00:46:27,919 --> 00:46:29,354 {\an8}NO ONE EVER DID THAT. 827 00:46:29,420 --> 00:46:30,555 {\an8}WHEN THE WAR WAS OVER, 828 00:46:30,621 --> 00:46:32,723 {\an8}WHEN THE MAJOR MANEUVER FIGHTING WAS OVER, 829 00:46:32,790 --> 00:46:36,327 {\an8}THERE WERE SIMPLY NO UNITS STILL IN EXISTENCE, 830 00:46:36,394 --> 00:46:37,996 {\an8}EVERYBODY HAD GONE HOME. 831 00:46:38,063 --> 00:46:39,364 {\an8}GENERALS AND COMMANDERS WERE COMING BACK 832 00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:41,867 {\an8}WITH ENTIRE DIVISIONS SAYING "HERE ARE MY PEOPLE." 833 00:46:41,933 --> 00:46:43,634 {\an8}ONE OF THE IRAQI OFFICERS, 834 00:46:43,701 --> 00:46:47,572 {\an8}TOWARDS THE END OF, I DUNNO, THE SECOND OR THIRD MEETING 835 00:46:47,638 --> 00:46:53,311 {\an8}WHEN BAGHDAD WAS GOING-- I MEAN IT WAS IN CHAOS, SAID, 836 00:46:53,378 --> 00:46:56,481 {\an8}"COLONEL PAUL, I CAN HAVE 10,000 MILITARY POLICEMEN 837 00:46:56,547 --> 00:46:59,584 {\an8}"FOR YOU NEXT WEEK, YOU JUST TELL ME." 838 00:46:59,650 --> 00:47:02,620 {\an8}I TOOK THAT BACK TO BERNIE KERIK'S STAFF 839 00:47:02,687 --> 00:47:04,189 {\an8}AND NOTHING WAS DONE WITH IT. 840 00:47:10,761 --> 00:47:14,065 Hughes: FIVE DAYS AFTER BREMER ISSUED HIS ORDER, 841 00:47:14,132 --> 00:47:16,067 WE WERE FAREWELLING JAY GARNER 842 00:47:16,134 --> 00:47:19,971 BECAUSE HE WAS GONNA LEAVE IRAQ FOR GOOD THE NEXT DAY. 843 00:47:20,038 --> 00:47:23,674 WE HAD TWO HUMVEES ON THE HIGHWAY 844 00:47:23,741 --> 00:47:26,444 HEADING OUT FROM THE GREEN ZONE, 845 00:47:26,511 --> 00:47:30,115 THEY WERE AMBUSHED AND TWO SOLDIERS WERE KILLED. 846 00:47:30,181 --> 00:47:33,851 AND THAT WAS WHEN IN MY MIND THE INSURGENCY BEGAN. 847 00:47:35,921 --> 00:47:40,658 Man: GO, GO, GO! GO, GO, GO! 848 00:47:40,725 --> 00:47:43,628 MY COLLEAGUES AND I COULD SIT ON THE BALCONY 849 00:47:43,694 --> 00:47:45,997 OR ON THE ROOF OF THE REPUBLICAN PALACE AT NIGHT 850 00:47:46,064 --> 00:47:49,400 AND WE COULD WATCH THE TRACERS THROUGHOUT BAGHDAD. 851 00:47:49,467 --> 00:47:52,603 WE COULD WATCH THE FLARES OF DIFFERENT COLORS THAT WENT UP 852 00:47:52,670 --> 00:47:54,839 MARKING WHERE AMERICAN CONVOYS 853 00:47:54,906 --> 00:47:57,808 OF CERTAIN COMPOSITIONS WERE MOVING 854 00:47:57,875 --> 00:47:59,911 AND BEING FOLLOWED BY THE INSURGENTS. 855 00:48:10,155 --> 00:48:12,657 THESE GUYS ALL KNEW WHERE THOSE MUNITIONS WERE, 856 00:48:12,723 --> 00:48:17,062 THEY KNEW HOW TO GET TO THOSE WEAPONS AND HOW TO USE THEM, 857 00:48:17,128 --> 00:48:20,698 AND YOU'VE JUST SENT THEM AWAY AND SAID THEY DON'T EXIST? 858 00:48:20,765 --> 00:48:22,833 {\an8}COMMON SENSE TELLS ME YOU DON'T DO THAT. 859 00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:25,170 {\an8}I MEAN, YOU HAD HUGE AMMUNITION DUMPS 860 00:48:25,236 --> 00:48:28,706 {\an8}THAT WEREN'T GUARDED UNTIL SEVERAL WEEKS 861 00:48:28,773 --> 00:48:32,143 {\an8}IF NOT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AFTER MAJOR COMBAT ACTIONS ENDED. 862 00:48:32,210 --> 00:48:34,145 {\an8}I'M STANDING THERE WATCHING THESE INSURGENTS 863 00:48:34,212 --> 00:48:37,215 {\an8}PULL OUT ROCKETS AND MORTARS AND BOMBS 864 00:48:37,282 --> 00:48:39,951 FROM THESE WEAPONS CACHES THAT THE IRAQIS HAD STORED 865 00:48:40,018 --> 00:48:41,786 AND STASHED EVERYWHERE. 866 00:48:41,852 --> 00:48:45,023 AND YOU'D GO TO THE BRITISH OR TO THE U.S., WHOEVER WAS THERE, 867 00:48:45,090 --> 00:48:47,192 WITH YOUR LITTLE G.P.S. RECEIVER AND SAY, 868 00:48:47,258 --> 00:48:48,960 "HEY, GUYS, YOU KNOW, 869 00:48:49,027 --> 00:48:52,197 "WE FOUND LIKE 18 THOUSAND MILLION TONS OF BOMBS 870 00:48:52,263 --> 00:48:54,899 "AND THERE ARE BUNCH OF IRAQIS THERE WITH AK-47s 871 00:48:54,966 --> 00:48:56,334 "TAKING IT AWAY. 872 00:48:56,401 --> 00:48:59,670 "PROBABLY NOT THE BEST IDEA. HERE'S WHERE IT'S LOCATED." 873 00:48:59,737 --> 00:49:00,938 AND THEY SAY TO YOU, 874 00:49:01,006 --> 00:49:03,441 "WE JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO COVER IT." 875 00:49:03,508 --> 00:49:06,644 AND I JUST, I COULDN'T BELIEVE IT, IT WASN'T THE RIGHT ANSWER. 876 00:49:06,711 --> 00:49:09,147 GO THERE AND TAKE CARE OF IT FOR YOUR SECURITY, 877 00:49:09,214 --> 00:49:10,848 FOR THE CIVILIANS' SECURITY, FOR EVERYBODY, 878 00:49:10,915 --> 00:49:12,583 IT'S JUST A BAD IDEA. 879 00:49:15,753 --> 00:49:20,091 [MAN SHOUTING IN ARABIC] 880 00:49:25,263 --> 00:49:29,767 {\an8}Man: DID ANYBODY WARN YOU THAT DISBANDING THE ARMY IN THIS WAY 881 00:49:29,834 --> 00:49:36,107 {\an8}WOULD AND THEN WAS FUELING MAJOR GROWTH OF THE INSURGENCY? 882 00:49:36,174 --> 00:49:38,009 {\an8}CERTAINLY NOT IN THOSE TERMS. 883 00:49:38,076 --> 00:49:40,045 {\an8}Man: NOBODY SAID THAT TO YOU? 884 00:49:40,111 --> 00:49:41,479 NO. I ALSO DON'T BELIEVE IT'S TRUE, 885 00:49:41,546 --> 00:49:43,481 BUT NOBODY SAID IT, NOBODY SAID-- 886 00:49:43,548 --> 00:49:44,649 YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT'S TRUE? 887 00:49:44,715 --> 00:49:46,117 NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE IT'S TRUE. 888 00:49:46,184 --> 00:49:48,286 A NUMBER OF THE MOST SENIOR GENERALS 889 00:49:48,353 --> 00:49:51,722 UH, CAME TO THE CANAL HOTEL TO U.N. HEADQUARTERS, 890 00:49:51,789 --> 00:49:54,492 AND THEY WERE VERY EXPLICIT AT THE CONSEQUENCE 891 00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:56,894 OF LETTING THIS ORDER STAND 892 00:49:56,961 --> 00:49:58,429 AND OF MARGINALIZING 893 00:49:58,496 --> 00:50:01,499 THIS INCREDIBLY POWERFUL SEGMENT OF SOCIETY 894 00:50:01,566 --> 00:50:03,134 WOULD BE AN INSURGENCY. 895 00:50:03,201 --> 00:50:06,504 A LEBANESE DIPLOMAT NAMED HASSAN SALAMI 896 00:50:06,571 --> 00:50:09,640 TURNED TO HIS COLLEAGUE AS THE GENERALS WALKED AWAY 897 00:50:09,707 --> 00:50:11,309 AFTER ONE OF THEIR MEETINGS 898 00:50:11,376 --> 00:50:14,779 AND SAID, "I SEE BULLETS IN THEIR EYES. 899 00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:16,714 "I SEE BULLETS IN THEIR EYES." 900 00:50:16,781 --> 00:50:20,251 Narrator: EVEN MORE REMARKABLE THAN THE DECISION TO DISBAND THE ARMY 901 00:50:20,318 --> 00:50:22,620 WAS HOW THAT DECISION WAS MADE-- 902 00:50:22,687 --> 00:50:24,422 SECRETLY, OVER A SINGLE WEEK, 903 00:50:24,489 --> 00:50:28,193 BY A FEW MEN IN WASHINGTON D.C. WHO HAD NEVER BEEN TO IRAQ. 904 00:50:28,259 --> 00:50:31,028 THEY DID NOT CONSULT WITH THE MILITARY COMMANDERS IN IRAQ, 905 00:50:31,096 --> 00:50:33,030 THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF, 906 00:50:33,098 --> 00:50:34,932 O.R.H.A., THE STATE DEPARTMENT, 907 00:50:34,999 --> 00:50:37,868 THE C.I.A., THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL, 908 00:50:37,935 --> 00:50:42,940 OR EVEN APPARENTLY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. 909 00:50:43,007 --> 00:50:45,810 WALTER SLOCOMBE AND PAUL HUGHES WERE RE-INTERVIEWED 910 00:50:45,876 --> 00:50:47,712 IN ORDER TO RECONSTRUCT THE EVENTS 911 00:50:47,778 --> 00:50:49,814 LEADING TO THE DISSOLUTION OF THE ARMY. 912 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,784 THESE GUYS CALLED THEMSELVES THE INDEPENDENT MILITARY GATHERING. 913 00:50:53,851 --> 00:50:58,323 THE INDEPENDENT MILITARY GATHERING HAD 100,000 ON 9th MAY 914 00:50:58,389 --> 00:50:59,590 Man: AND THEY ALREADY HAD 100,000? 915 00:50:59,657 --> 00:51:01,626 YEAH, THIS WAS A NATIONWIDE EFFORT. 916 00:51:01,692 --> 00:51:04,395 THEY BROUGHT ME-- I WANTED THE PRINTOUTS, 917 00:51:04,462 --> 00:51:07,332 I WANTED THE DISKS, AND THEY GIVE THEM TO ME, 918 00:51:07,398 --> 00:51:10,067 AND I TOOK THEM BACK WITH ME TO O.R.H.A. 919 00:51:10,135 --> 00:51:13,271 I SAID, "HERE WE GO," AND I TOLD WALT AND HIS CREW, 920 00:51:13,338 --> 00:51:16,174 "I'VE GOT THESE THINGS, THEY'RE HERE WAITING FOR YOU." 921 00:51:16,241 --> 00:51:22,913 HUGHES BELIEVED THAT HE HAD AN OPENING TO SOME IRAQI OFFICERS 922 00:51:22,980 --> 00:51:25,850 WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN PREPARED TO RECONSTITUTE UNITS. I DON'T-- 923 00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:29,520 Man: HE ALREADY HAD ATTAINED REGISTRATION STATEMENTS FROM 137,000. 924 00:51:29,587 --> 00:51:34,792 NO, HE DIDN'T. HE HADN'T DONE THAT. HE MAY HAVE GOTTEN-- 925 00:51:34,859 --> 00:51:38,196 'CAUSE NOBODY COULD HAVE GOTTEN STATEMENTS FROM 130,000 ANYBODY 926 00:51:38,263 --> 00:51:41,399 FOR ANYTHING, IN THE CHAOS THAT PREVAILED AT THAT POINT. 927 00:51:41,466 --> 00:51:43,401 THEY HAD A COURIER SYSTEM SET UP 928 00:51:43,468 --> 00:51:48,005 THAT WAS RUNNING AROUND THE METROPOLITAN AREA OF BAGHDAD, 929 00:51:48,072 --> 00:51:51,742 OF MOSUL, OF BASRA AND KIRKUK 930 00:51:51,809 --> 00:51:54,579 AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND, I MEAN--I-- 931 00:51:56,614 --> 00:51:59,884 GIVEN HOW DIFFICULT IT WAS TO DO ANYTHING 932 00:51:59,950 --> 00:52:02,653 JUST OPERATIONALLY OR ORGANIZATIONALLY, 933 00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:04,655 NOBODY HAD 137,000. 934 00:52:04,722 --> 00:52:06,491 WALT WASN'T THERE. 935 00:52:06,557 --> 00:52:09,560 HE NEVER MET WITH THESE PEOPLE, HE HAD NO CLUE. 936 00:52:09,627 --> 00:52:12,730 Man: SO DID YOU TELL SLOCOMBE THIS, THAT THIS WAS GOING ON? 937 00:52:12,797 --> 00:52:15,866 YES, HE KNEW THIS. HE AND HIS STAFF KNEW THIS. 938 00:52:15,933 --> 00:52:17,468 Man: AMBASSADOR BREMER, 939 00:52:17,535 --> 00:52:20,205 YOU HAD ALREADY MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO HIM 940 00:52:20,271 --> 00:52:24,175 AND HE HAD ALREADY MADE AT LEAST A TENTATIVE RECOMMENDATION 941 00:52:24,242 --> 00:52:26,244 TO SECRETARY RUMSFELD 942 00:52:26,311 --> 00:52:29,180 ABOUT THE DISSOLUTION OF THE ARMY, UM-- 943 00:52:29,247 --> 00:52:32,016 ABOUT ISSUING THE ORDER THAT HE FINALLY ISSUED, YEAH. 944 00:52:32,082 --> 00:52:34,952 YES, ON MAY 9TH. 945 00:52:35,019 --> 00:52:36,387 YES. OK. 946 00:52:36,454 --> 00:52:39,690 9th MAY WAS THE LAST TIME I HAD A CONVERSATION 947 00:52:39,757 --> 00:52:41,892 WITH WALT SLOCOMBE. 948 00:52:41,959 --> 00:52:44,429 AND WE TALKED ON THE PHONE BEFORE I WENT OUT. 949 00:52:44,495 --> 00:52:45,596 DID YOU EVER SAY TO HIM, 950 00:52:45,663 --> 00:52:48,165 "WE'RE THINKING OF DISBANDING THE IRAQI ARMY 951 00:52:48,233 --> 00:52:50,401 "AND STOPPING YOUR EFFORTS TO RECALL THE IRAQI ARMY?" 952 00:52:50,468 --> 00:52:52,837 ONE OF THE THINGS WE--I DID WAS JUST-- 953 00:52:52,903 --> 00:52:55,440 DID YOU EVER SAY THAT TO HIM? 954 00:52:55,506 --> 00:52:56,974 IN THOSE WORDS, NO. 955 00:52:57,041 --> 00:53:00,144 THE CONVERSATION WAS, "I'M COMING OVER, 956 00:53:00,211 --> 00:53:02,447 "I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE I'M GOING TO BE LIVING," 957 00:53:02,513 --> 00:53:05,049 YOU KNOW, "AM I GONNA HAVE A MOTOR POOL WITH ME, 958 00:53:05,115 --> 00:53:07,818 "MY OWN COOKS?" YADA-YADA-YADA. 959 00:53:07,885 --> 00:53:11,088 I MEAN, IT WAS NOTHING ABOUT THE IRAQI MILITARY. 960 00:53:11,155 --> 00:53:13,658 AND I WAS GIVING HIM AN UPDATE ON WHAT-- 961 00:53:13,724 --> 00:53:15,860 SO HE DIDN'T SAY THAT HE HAD ALREADY 962 00:53:15,926 --> 00:53:18,062 COME TO THE TENTATIVE CONCLUSION 963 00:53:18,128 --> 00:53:20,865 AND RECOMMENDED TO BREMER TO DISSOLVE THE ARMY? 964 00:53:20,931 --> 00:53:23,067 ABSOLUTELY NOT, BECAUSE HAD HE SAID THAT 965 00:53:23,133 --> 00:53:26,471 I WOULD HAVE BEEN ON JAY'S DOORSTEP POSTHASTE. 966 00:53:26,537 --> 00:53:29,073 SO YOU GUYS CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA 967 00:53:29,139 --> 00:53:31,175 AND RECOMMENDED TO SECRETARY RUMSFELD 968 00:53:31,242 --> 00:53:34,979 WITHOUT HAVING SPOKEN TO ANY OF THE SENIOR PEOPLE IN IRAQ 969 00:53:35,045 --> 00:53:36,447 RESPONSIBLE FOR THESE MATTERS? 970 00:53:36,514 --> 00:53:40,551 IT WAS SUBJECT TO, AND PRECISELY BECAUSE OF THE FACT 971 00:53:40,618 --> 00:53:43,588 THAT IT ACTUALLY HAD BEEN ONLY THOUGHT OF FOR FEW DAYS, 972 00:53:43,654 --> 00:53:46,324 BECAUSE BREMER WAS GOING OUT AND BREMER SAID TO RUMSFELD, 973 00:53:46,391 --> 00:53:50,127 "BEFORE I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION I WILL TALK TO PEOPLE ON THE GROUND." 974 00:53:57,568 --> 00:53:59,770 WAS THAT A SURPRISE TO YOU? HAD THIS BEEN DISCUSSED WITH YOU? 975 00:53:59,837 --> 00:54:01,406 {\an8}NO, IT HADN'T BEEN DISCUSSED WITH ME, IT WAS A SURPRISE, 976 00:54:01,472 --> 00:54:02,907 {\an8}A BIG SURPRISE. 977 00:54:02,973 --> 00:54:04,675 {\an8}REALLY? MM-HM. 978 00:54:04,742 --> 00:54:06,644 {\an8}YOU NEVER CALLED UP GARNER AND SAID 979 00:54:06,711 --> 00:54:07,745 "WE'RE THINKING OF DOING THIS, 980 00:54:07,812 --> 00:54:09,880 "DO YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA?" 981 00:54:11,181 --> 00:54:13,117 I DON'T THINK I DID. 982 00:54:15,019 --> 00:54:16,787 DON'T YOU THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN AN MISTAKE? 983 00:54:16,854 --> 00:54:17,988 NO. 984 00:54:19,256 --> 00:54:21,091 WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION? WHAT DID YOU THINK? 985 00:54:21,158 --> 00:54:22,627 I THOUGHT IT WAS A POOR IDEA. 986 00:54:22,693 --> 00:54:25,330 I THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO BRING THEM BACK. 987 00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:34,038 JOHN ABIZAID AND DAVE McKIERNAN WERE CONSTANTLY TELLING ME, 988 00:54:34,104 --> 00:54:35,840 "HOW ABOUT HURRYING UP? LET'S GET THE ARMY BACK, 989 00:54:35,906 --> 00:54:36,841 "LET'S GET THE ARMY BACK." 990 00:54:36,907 --> 00:54:38,142 {\an8}THERE IS A LARGE NUMBER 991 00:54:38,208 --> 00:54:41,646 {\an8}OF FORMER IRAQI SOLDIERS THAT ARE UNEMPLOYED NOW. 992 00:54:41,712 --> 00:54:44,882 {\an8}THAT IS A HUGE CONCERN NOT ONLY FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT 993 00:54:44,949 --> 00:54:46,817 {\an8}BUT FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, 994 00:54:46,884 --> 00:54:49,253 THEY'RE NOT EARNING AN INCOME RIGHT NOW. 995 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,088 AND THERE'S THE ANNOUNCEMENT 996 00:54:51,155 --> 00:54:55,893 THAT THE IRAQI ARMY HAS BEEN DISBANDED, AND I WAS FLOORED, 997 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,564 AND AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN TIME, WALT SLOCOMBE AND HIS TEAM 998 00:54:59,630 --> 00:55:02,367 STILL WERE NOT IN IRAQ. 999 00:55:02,433 --> 00:55:04,635 COLONEL HUGHES WAS THE PERSON WHO WAS IN CHARGE 1000 00:55:04,702 --> 00:55:06,270 OF DEALING WITH THE IRAQI ARMY 1001 00:55:06,337 --> 00:55:08,706 BECAUSE NONE OF THE PEOPLE FROM YOUR ADVISORY GROUP 1002 00:55:08,773 --> 00:55:12,076 HAD YET SHOWED UP IN IRAQ, INCLUDING YOU. 1003 00:55:12,142 --> 00:55:13,411 DIDN'T YOU THINK THAT MAYBE 1004 00:55:13,478 --> 00:55:14,845 YOU SHOULD SPEAK WITH HIM ABOUT THIS? 1005 00:55:14,912 --> 00:55:17,715 OH, I TALKED WITH HIM A LOT. THAT'S FUNNY. 1006 00:55:17,782 --> 00:55:20,718 HE SAYS THAT THE ORDER OF DISBANDING THE ARMY 1007 00:55:20,785 --> 00:55:22,620 CAME AS A COMPLETE SURPRISE TO HIM 1008 00:55:22,687 --> 00:55:24,922 AND THAT HE LEARNED OF IT BY WATCHING IT ON TELEVISION 1009 00:55:24,989 --> 00:55:26,491 IN AN AIRPORT. 1010 00:55:28,025 --> 00:55:29,460 THAT'S EX...WELL, IF THAT'S SO 1011 00:55:29,527 --> 00:55:33,398 THAT'S SURPRISING TO ME, BUT IMPOSSIBLE. 1012 00:55:33,464 --> 00:55:35,165 I TALKED TO HIM-- I MEAN, I TALKED TO HIM-- 1013 00:55:35,232 --> 00:55:36,834 I-- 1014 00:55:36,901 --> 00:55:40,004 WE WORKED TOGETHER ON A DAILY BASIS 1015 00:55:40,070 --> 00:55:41,406 DURING THE TIME I WAS THERE. 1016 00:55:41,472 --> 00:55:44,341 HE CAME ON 16th MAY. 16th MAY? 1017 00:55:44,409 --> 00:55:48,112 FOR A FOUR-DAY WHIRLWIND TOUR OF THE COUNTRY. 1018 00:55:48,178 --> 00:55:49,113 OH. 1019 00:55:49,179 --> 00:55:50,381 AND THEN HE LEFT, 1020 00:55:50,448 --> 00:55:53,984 AND HE DIDN'T COME BACK UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF JUNE. 1021 00:55:54,051 --> 00:55:56,020 REALLY? CORRECT. 1022 00:55:57,121 --> 00:55:59,023 HE DIDN'T TELL YOU THAT? 1023 00:56:05,229 --> 00:56:07,832 THIS IDEA TO DISBAND THE ENTIRE ARMY 1024 00:56:07,898 --> 00:56:09,900 WAS ONE THAT CAME AS QUITE A SURPRISE TO ME. 1025 00:56:09,967 --> 00:56:11,702 I SEE. 1026 00:56:11,769 --> 00:56:13,303 {\an8}WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN YOU LEARNED OF IT? 1027 00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:15,506 {\an8}I FELT WE'D JUST CREATED A PROBLEM. 1028 00:56:15,573 --> 00:56:18,609 {\an8}WE HAD A LOT OF OUT-OF-WORK SOLDIERS. 1029 00:56:18,676 --> 00:56:20,344 {\an8}THE PRESIDENT HAD ALREADY MADE A DIFFERENT DECISION 1030 00:56:20,411 --> 00:56:24,114 WHICH WAS TO KEEP BATTALION AND BELOW IN FORCE. 1031 00:56:24,181 --> 00:56:25,483 EARLIER, YES. YEAH. 1032 00:56:25,550 --> 00:56:29,019 WELL, WITHIN, I MEAN, A COUPLE OF DAYS' PROXIMITY. 1033 00:56:29,086 --> 00:56:31,321 I THINK MOST OF US WERE CAUGHT RELATIVELY UNAWARES 1034 00:56:31,388 --> 00:56:33,691 OR COMPLETELY UNAWARES BY THIS DISBANDING OF THE ARMY. 1035 00:56:33,758 --> 00:56:37,094 Armitage: SECRETARY POWELL FOUND OUT ABOUT IT AS I DID. 1036 00:56:37,161 --> 00:56:38,395 WHICH WAS HOW? 1037 00:56:38,463 --> 00:56:39,897 IT JUST WAS WE FOUND OUT ONE DAY 1038 00:56:39,964 --> 00:56:41,866 JERRY ANNOUNCED THAT HE DISBANDED THE ARMY. 1039 00:56:41,932 --> 00:56:42,900 Man: HOW ABOUT CONDOLEEZZA RICE? 1040 00:56:42,967 --> 00:56:44,735 WELL, SHE OUGHT TO SPEAK FOR HERSELF. 1041 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,742 DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH THE PRESIDENT KNEW 1042 00:56:51,809 --> 00:56:53,911 ABOUT THESE DECISIONS IN ADVANCE? WHETHER HE-- 1043 00:56:53,978 --> 00:56:55,546 AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, I DON'T KNOW 1044 00:56:55,613 --> 00:56:57,748 IF HE WAS INFORMED BY MR. RUMSFELD OR NOT. 1045 00:56:57,815 --> 00:56:58,816 NO IDEA. 1046 00:56:58,883 --> 00:57:00,885 I WASN'T IN MY OFFICE BUT TWO HOURS 1047 00:57:00,951 --> 00:57:03,888 AND A YOUNG M.P. COMES TO SEE ME AND HE GOES, 1048 00:57:03,954 --> 00:57:07,157 "COLONEL HUGHES, I'VE GOT SOME IRAQI OFFICERS 1049 00:57:07,224 --> 00:57:09,026 "THAT WANNA MEET WITH YOU." 1050 00:57:09,093 --> 00:57:11,261 AND I WAS THINKING TO MYSELF, "HOLY COW. 1051 00:57:11,328 --> 00:57:13,230 "WHAT DO I TELL THESE GUYS?" 1052 00:57:13,297 --> 00:57:15,099 SO I FINALLY CAME DOWNSTAIRS 1053 00:57:15,165 --> 00:57:19,069 AND MET WITH THEM IN THE ROTUNDA OF THE REPUBLICAN PALACE. 1054 00:57:19,136 --> 00:57:23,741 COLONEL MIRJAN SAYS, "COLONEL PAUL, WHAT HAPPENED?" 1055 00:57:23,808 --> 00:57:25,910 AND I SAID TO HIM, "I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. 1056 00:57:25,976 --> 00:57:29,046 "I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THIS CAME ABOUT." 1057 00:57:29,113 --> 00:57:34,451 AND HE SAID, "ALL THESE SOLDIERS, THEY NOW HAVE NO RECOURSE. 1058 00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:36,020 "THEY HAVE NO MONEY COMING TO THEM. 1059 00:57:36,086 --> 00:57:38,022 "WHAT ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO DO?" 1060 00:57:52,169 --> 00:57:53,203 Man: OH, SHIT. 1061 00:58:00,511 --> 00:58:02,046 Man: HOW MANY TIMES DID I TELL YOU? 1062 00:58:02,112 --> 00:58:03,714 SHIT! 2nd man: FUCK! 1063 00:58:03,781 --> 00:58:05,049 3rd man: OH, MY EAR! 1064 00:58:05,115 --> 00:58:06,751 Man: WE NEED TO GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE. 1065 00:58:06,817 --> 00:58:10,120 THERE ARE SOME WHO FEEL LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, 1066 00:58:10,187 --> 00:58:12,557 THE CONDITIONS ARE SUCH THAT THEY CAN ATTACK US THERE. 1067 00:58:12,623 --> 00:58:14,424 MY ANSWER IS BRING 'EM ON. 1068 00:58:14,491 --> 00:58:16,160 {\an8}I WAS IN THE BUCKET. 1069 00:58:17,294 --> 00:58:21,165 {\an8}THE BUCKET IS A NON-ARMORED VEHICLE. 1070 00:58:21,231 --> 00:58:25,269 {\an8}ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS, YOU GONNA GET IT. 1071 00:58:25,335 --> 00:58:27,572 {\an8}SO NOBODY WANTS TO BE IN THERE. 1072 00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:36,981 {\an8}I SUFFERED THE BLAST, ALMOST-- ALMOST DIRECTLY, SIR, 1073 00:58:37,047 --> 00:58:39,717 OF THAT BLAST AND THEN I CAME-- 1074 00:58:39,784 --> 00:58:42,553 I STARTED HEARING THE FIREFIGHT 1075 00:58:42,620 --> 00:58:47,424 FROM THE FAR TO THE CLOSEST-- PAM-PAM. WE START FIRING. 1076 00:58:47,491 --> 00:58:50,595 WE HAVE A LIMITED PROBLEM OF SOME BITTER ENDERS, 1077 00:58:50,661 --> 00:58:53,430 SOME SMALL REMNANTS OF THE OLD REGIME 1078 00:58:53,497 --> 00:58:56,033 WHO ARE USING PROFESSIONAL MILITARY TACTICS 1079 00:58:56,100 --> 00:59:00,237 TO ATTACK AND KILL OUR SOLDIERS AS THEY DID, UH, THIS MORNING. 1080 00:59:00,304 --> 00:59:01,405 WE WILL-- SO YOU DON'T THINK 1081 00:59:01,471 --> 00:59:03,073 THIS IS A COORDINATED CAMPAIGN? 1082 00:59:03,140 --> 00:59:04,942 NO, THERE'S NO-- THAT THIS IS A GUERRILLA WAR, 1083 00:59:05,009 --> 00:59:07,845 THAT SUDDENLY WE'VE MOVED INTO A PHASE OF GUERRILLA WAR? 1084 00:59:07,912 --> 00:59:09,914 AS A CONSEQUENCE OF THAT BLAST, 1085 00:59:09,980 --> 00:59:15,119 I SUFFERED A PENETRATING TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY 1086 00:59:15,185 --> 00:59:19,556 AND I LOST THE PERCEPTION OF THE LIGHT IN MY RIGHT EYE. 1087 00:59:21,391 --> 00:59:23,761 I SUFFERED PELLETS IN MY LEFT EYE 1088 00:59:23,828 --> 00:59:28,933 THAT GETS ME A MACULAR HOLE IN THE RETINA, 1089 00:59:28,999 --> 00:59:34,972 UH, BUT WE FIGHT, WE FIGHT UNTIL WE HEAR THE CEASE-FIRE. 1090 00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:39,009 I WAS A GUNNER, AND MY DRIVER LOST BOTH HIS LEGS 1091 00:59:39,076 --> 00:59:41,411 {\an8}AND THEY'D EJECTED ME OUT 1092 00:59:41,478 --> 00:59:47,317 {\an8}AND I SUFFERED A FRACTURE FEMUR, NEARLY LOST MY RIGHT ARM 1093 00:59:47,384 --> 00:59:51,521 {\an8}AND A COLLAPSED LUNG AND CLOSED HEAD WOUNDS. 1094 00:59:51,588 --> 00:59:55,926 {\an8}I HAVE SINCE GONE TO THE DICTIONARY AND I HAVE LOOKED UP 1095 00:59:55,993 --> 00:59:58,595 {\an8}SEVERAL THINGS, ONE OF WHICH I CAN'T IMMEDIATELY RECAPTURE, 1096 00:59:58,663 --> 01:00:00,798 BUT ONE WAS "GUERRILLA WAR", 1097 01:00:00,865 --> 01:00:03,433 ANOTHER WAS "INSURGENCY", ANOTHER WAS, UH... 1098 01:00:03,500 --> 01:00:05,302 "UNCONVENTIONAL WAR". PARDON ME? 1099 01:00:05,369 --> 01:00:08,272 Man: QUAGMIRE? [LAUGHTER] 1100 01:00:08,338 --> 01:00:12,142 NO, THAT'S SOMEONE ELSE'S BUSINESS, QUAGMIRES, 1101 01:00:12,209 --> 01:00:13,844 I DON'T DO QUAGMIRES. 1102 01:00:13,911 --> 01:00:16,947 A GUY I KNOW, HE'S A COUNTER-INSURGENCY EXPERT. 1103 01:00:17,014 --> 01:00:19,316 HE WAS AT THE PALACE WHERE THE C.P.A. 1104 01:00:19,383 --> 01:00:23,187 IS HEADQUARTERED, AND HE WAS TALKING TO AN ARMY COLONEL 1105 01:00:23,253 --> 01:00:25,455 WHOSE DESK WAS RIGHT OUTSIDE BREMER'S OFFICE 1106 01:00:25,522 --> 01:00:29,794 AND HE SAID, HE USED THE WORD "INSURGENCY", AND THE ARMY COLONEL 1107 01:00:29,860 --> 01:00:34,164 HELD UP HIS HAND AND SAID, "THERE IS NO INSURGENCY IN IRAQ. 1108 01:00:34,231 --> 01:00:36,834 "THERE IS A HIGH LEVEL OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE." 1109 01:00:37,768 --> 01:00:39,236 Bodine: THE SECURITY PROBLEM 1110 01:00:39,303 --> 01:00:43,573 INCREASINGLY ATE INTO OUR ABILITY TO DO OUR JOB. 1111 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:50,114 I HAD HOPED TO ESTABLISH SOME NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORY COUNCILS. 1112 01:00:50,180 --> 01:00:51,716 THESE THREE DIRECTOR GENERALS 1113 01:00:51,782 --> 01:00:56,253 GAVE PROBABLY THE MOST COHERENT BRIEFING ON THE STRUCTURE 1114 01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,590 AND ORGANIZATION OF A 1500-YEAR-OLD CITY 1115 01:01:00,657 --> 01:01:02,092 THAT I THINK ANYONE COULD HAVE GOTTEN. 1116 01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:08,298 ONE OF THEM LAUNCHED INTO THIS PLAN FOR... 1117 01:01:08,365 --> 01:01:10,267 NEIGHBORHOOD ADVISORY GROUPS. 1118 01:01:10,334 --> 01:01:16,306 HE HAD THIS WHOLE GRASS-ROOTS, BOTTOM-UP, DEMOCRATIZATION THING 1119 01:01:16,373 --> 01:01:19,744 NAILED, IT WAS AN ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL PLAN. 1120 01:01:19,810 --> 01:01:20,945 Man: AND WHAT HAPPENED TO IT? 1121 01:01:21,011 --> 01:01:22,146 HE WAS ASSASSINATED. 1122 01:01:22,212 --> 01:01:24,081 THE COUNTRY WAS SLIPPING MORE AND MORE OUT OF CONTROL 1123 01:01:24,148 --> 01:01:26,851 THE ENTIRE TIME, AND I THINK IN SOME WAYS 1124 01:01:26,917 --> 01:01:28,719 BREMER AND HIS AIDES DIDN'T KNOW 1125 01:01:28,786 --> 01:01:32,723 HOW BAD THINGS WERE GETTING OUTSIDE THE BLAST WALLS. 1126 01:01:42,399 --> 01:01:45,235 Narrator: HEADQUARTERED IN SADDAM'S FORMER REPUBLICAN PALACE, 1127 01:01:45,302 --> 01:01:48,605 THE C.P.A. COMPOUND, CALLED THE GREEN ZONE, 1128 01:01:48,672 --> 01:01:51,175 WAS SHIELDED BY 7 MILES OF BLAST WALLS. 1129 01:01:53,243 --> 01:01:57,982 THERE WERE HUGE LINES OF IRAQIS, ENGINEERS, PUBLIC OFFICIALS, 1130 01:01:58,048 --> 01:02:00,150 {\an8}PEOPLE JUST WILLING TO HELP, TO TRANSLATE, 1131 01:02:00,217 --> 01:02:03,253 {\an8}STANDING IN LINE AT THE GATES OF PALACE, 1132 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,056 {\an8}MADE TO WAIT AND NOT BEING RECEIVED BY ANYONE. 1133 01:02:06,123 --> 01:02:08,725 {\an8}THEY'RE JUST TOLD, "GO AWAY AND DON'T COME BACK." 1134 01:02:08,793 --> 01:02:10,795 THESE PEOPLE CAME THERE AND TRIED ONCE AND TWO TIMES 1135 01:02:10,861 --> 01:02:12,296 AND THREE TIMES AND THEN GAVE UP. 1136 01:02:12,362 --> 01:02:13,831 I ABSOLUTELY HATED THE GREEN ZONE. 1137 01:02:13,898 --> 01:02:16,767 I GOT OUT EVERY CHANCE I COULD TO MEET WITH IRAQIS 1138 01:02:16,834 --> 01:02:19,003 AND SIT IN THEIR HOMES AND HEAR THEIR COMPLAINTS 1139 01:02:19,069 --> 01:02:20,270 AND THEIR THOUGHTS. 1140 01:02:20,337 --> 01:02:22,272 AND I WOULD COME BACK AND TELL DAN SENOR, 1141 01:02:22,339 --> 01:02:25,442 {\an8}"YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, YOU'RE NOT COMMUNICATING TO THE IRAQIS." 1142 01:02:30,047 --> 01:02:31,681 {\an8}VIRTUALLY NOBODY IN THE C.P.A. 1143 01:02:31,748 --> 01:02:33,851 {\an8}AT A SENIOR LEVEL SPOKE ARABIC. 1144 01:02:33,918 --> 01:02:36,620 {\an8}ONE COULD COUNT MAYBE FIVE OR SIX 1145 01:02:36,686 --> 01:02:40,724 AMONG THE TOP 40 OR 50, 70 OFFICIALS. 1146 01:02:40,791 --> 01:02:44,228 WE HAD REGIONAL EXPERTS WHO HAD SERVED IN IRAQ. 1147 01:02:44,294 --> 01:02:47,531 BUT AS HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED, MANY OF THEM WERE NOT 1148 01:02:47,597 --> 01:02:49,299 INVOLVED IN INITIAL PARTS 1149 01:02:49,366 --> 01:02:52,970 AFTER THE INVASION OF IRAQ AND THE INITIAL OCCUPATION 1150 01:02:53,037 --> 01:02:55,005 SO THAT EXPERTISE WAS LOST. 1151 01:02:55,072 --> 01:02:58,342 Man: TELL US HOW YOUR TIME THERE ENDED. 1152 01:02:58,408 --> 01:03:00,577 UM-- I UNDERSTAND... 1153 01:03:00,644 --> 01:03:01,678 IT'S A SENSITIVE SUBJECT. 1154 01:03:01,745 --> 01:03:03,513 SAY WHAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE SAYING. 1155 01:03:03,580 --> 01:03:05,615 UM... 1156 01:03:05,682 --> 01:03:08,252 WELL, I WILL SAY THAT IT ENDED MUCH SOONER 1157 01:03:08,318 --> 01:03:09,887 THAN I HAD ANTICIPATED, 1158 01:03:09,954 --> 01:03:13,891 UH, AND IT ENDED MUCH SOONER THAN I WOULD HAVE WANTED. 1159 01:03:13,958 --> 01:03:16,793 UM, I REALLY WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE STAYED 1160 01:03:16,861 --> 01:03:18,462 AND TRIED TO HAVE--GIVEN ALL-- 1161 01:03:18,528 --> 01:03:20,764 GIVEN THE FRUSTRATIONS AND THE LIMITATIONS 1162 01:03:20,831 --> 01:03:24,268 IT WAS STILL A VERY WORTHWHILE PLACE TO BE 1163 01:03:24,334 --> 01:03:26,503 AND A WORTHWHILE THING TO BE TRYING TO DO. 1164 01:03:26,570 --> 01:03:28,005 DO YOU KNOW WHY SHE WAS FIRED? 1165 01:03:28,072 --> 01:03:31,341 UH, I KNOW WHY. I WAS TOLD. 1166 01:03:31,408 --> 01:03:32,776 WHAT WAS IT? 1167 01:03:32,843 --> 01:03:34,144 THAT SHE WAS DIFFICULT TO GET ALONG WITH 1168 01:03:34,211 --> 01:03:37,414 AND SHE WAS OFFERING OPINIONS 1169 01:03:37,481 --> 01:03:40,417 THAT WERE COUNTER TO THE PREVAILING WISDOM IN BAGHDAD AT THE TIME. 1170 01:03:40,484 --> 01:03:45,455 WE WERE GETTING NEW PEOPLE IN AFTER BREMER SHOWED UP. 1171 01:03:45,522 --> 01:03:49,093 KIDS RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE, YOU KNOW? 1172 01:03:49,159 --> 01:03:51,328 THEY'D HAVE A BACCALAUREATE DEGREE, 1173 01:03:51,395 --> 01:03:54,164 JUST GOT IT THE FALL-- THE PREVIOUS SPRING. 1174 01:03:54,231 --> 01:03:57,034 DADDY MADE A CONTRIBUTION TO THE CAMPAIGN 1175 01:03:57,101 --> 01:03:59,369 SO THE KID GETS A CHANCE TO GO OVER 1176 01:03:59,436 --> 01:04:03,107 AND EXPERIENCE SOME FUN TRAVEL AND ADVENTURE. 1177 01:04:03,173 --> 01:04:06,143 UM, PRETTY BOYS, THAT'S WHAT I CALLED THEM, 1178 01:04:06,210 --> 01:04:09,914 AND THEY SAT AROUND BREMER'S FRONT DOOR AND DID NOTHING. 1179 01:04:09,980 --> 01:04:13,650 {\an8}DURING THE COURSE OF MY TIME IN THE GREEN ZONE, 1180 01:04:13,717 --> 01:04:15,819 {\an8}WHEN I WAS IN THE PALACE, I BUMPED INTO ONE OF MY STUDENTS, 1181 01:04:15,886 --> 01:04:17,354 {\an8}JUST GRADUATED. 1182 01:04:17,421 --> 01:04:20,390 {\an8}I ASKED HER WHAT SHE WAS DOING AND SHE SAID, "WELL, I..." 1183 01:04:20,457 --> 01:04:21,591 {\an8}SHE COULDN'T BELIEVE HER LUCK. 1184 01:04:21,658 --> 01:04:23,627 {\an8}"I'M BEING ASKED TO, UH, 1185 01:04:23,693 --> 01:04:26,263 {\an8}"TO DO THE TRAFFIC PLAN FOR THE CITY." 1186 01:04:26,330 --> 01:04:29,699 {\an8}AND I ASKED IF SHE HAD ANY TRAINING IN MUNICIPAL PLANNING 1187 01:04:29,766 --> 01:04:31,435 {\an8}AND SHE SAID NO. 1188 01:04:33,037 --> 01:04:35,405 {\an8}SO SHE'S FRESH OUT OF SCHOOL 1189 01:04:35,472 --> 01:04:38,575 AND HAD BEEN PUT IN CHARGE OF SOMETHING QUITE COMPLICATED, 1190 01:04:38,642 --> 01:04:41,445 TO SAY THE LEAST, AND BEING OUT IN BAGHDAD TRAFFIC, 1191 01:04:41,511 --> 01:04:42,846 THE NEED WAS APPARENT. 1192 01:04:42,913 --> 01:04:46,116 MOST OFFICIALS THERE WERE ON THREE-MONTH CONTRACTS. 1193 01:04:46,183 --> 01:04:47,717 AS SOON AS SOMEBODY WOULD DEVELOP 1194 01:04:47,784 --> 01:04:50,020 THE APPROPRIATE RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE IRAQIS, 1195 01:04:50,087 --> 01:04:54,558 IN 90 DAYS, 100 DAYS, 120 DAYS, THEY'D GO HOME, 1196 01:04:54,624 --> 01:04:58,929 {\an8}AND THAT IS A TERRIBLE WAY TO RUN AN ORGANIZATION. 1197 01:04:58,996 --> 01:05:02,332 {\an8}THERE WAS A VERY STRONG, UM, PREFERENCE 1198 01:05:02,399 --> 01:05:04,634 {\an8}ON THE, UM--BY THE PENTAGON 1199 01:05:04,701 --> 01:05:08,205 {\an8}TO HAVE AMERICAN COMPANIES DOING THE WORK. 1200 01:05:08,272 --> 01:05:12,709 {\an8}AND THERE WERE NUMEROUS INSTANCES WHERE LOCAL IRAQI CONTRACTORS, 1201 01:05:12,776 --> 01:05:15,079 PROPOSED THAT THEY COULD DO PIECES OF WORK 1202 01:05:15,145 --> 01:05:17,314 FOR MUCH, MUCH LESS THAN IN FACT 1203 01:05:17,381 --> 01:05:19,616 THE AMERICANS CONTRACTORS COULD HAVE DONE. 1204 01:05:19,683 --> 01:05:21,986 Moulton: ANN AND I TOOK A VERY DIFFERENT APPROACH TO OUR WORK 1205 01:05:22,052 --> 01:05:24,354 {\an8}THAN MANY COALITION UNITS HAVE 1206 01:05:24,421 --> 01:05:27,357 {\an8}BECAUSE WE WORKED VERY, VERY CLOSELY WITH THE IRAQIS. 1207 01:05:27,424 --> 01:05:31,261 {\an8}IF WE'RE SITTING IN A MEETING, IT WAS AMERICANS, UM, 1208 01:05:31,328 --> 01:05:35,332 {\an8}AND IRAQIS, AND THE IRAQIS HAD JUST AS MUCH SAY AS WE DID. 1209 01:05:35,399 --> 01:05:37,968 Moulton: WE WERE BUILDING BORDER FORTS RIGHT NEXT TO FORTS BEING PUT UP 1210 01:05:38,035 --> 01:05:39,503 BY THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS 1211 01:05:39,569 --> 01:05:42,206 THROUGH THAT BIG AMERICAN CONTRACTOR PARSONS. 1212 01:05:42,272 --> 01:05:44,774 I MEAN, WE HAD OUR FORTS DESIGNED, BUILT AND DEDICATED 1213 01:05:44,841 --> 01:05:47,144 IN A PERIOD OF ABOUT FIVE MONTHS. 1214 01:05:47,211 --> 01:05:48,945 I THINK WHEN WE LEFT, THE PARSONS FORTS, 1215 01:05:49,013 --> 01:05:51,215 WHICH HAD BEEN STARTED MAYBE A YEAR BEFORE WE ARRIVED, 1216 01:05:51,281 --> 01:05:52,382 WERE STILL NOT FINISHED. 1217 01:05:59,156 --> 01:06:02,759 THE MILITARY OFFICERS WOULD OFTEN BE OUT IN THE FIELD, 1218 01:06:02,826 --> 01:06:06,296 EXPENDING THE SMALL AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT THEY HAD 1219 01:06:06,363 --> 01:06:10,534 FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION TO, SAY, CLEAN UP THE STREET, 1220 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,936 EFFECT SOME TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENTS 1221 01:06:13,003 --> 01:06:14,471 IN THE SEWAGE SYSTEM. 1222 01:06:14,538 --> 01:06:15,705 ONCE THE MILITARY HAD EXPENDED 1223 01:06:15,772 --> 01:06:18,208 ITS SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY TO DO THAT, 1224 01:06:18,275 --> 01:06:19,876 IT WOULD COME BACK TO C.P.A. 1225 01:06:19,943 --> 01:06:21,911 "WE NEED THIS, THIS AND THIS 1226 01:06:21,978 --> 01:06:24,948 "FOR THESE PROJECTS, AND IT'S GOING TO COST US THIS MUCH," AND SO FORTH. 1227 01:06:25,015 --> 01:06:29,119 AND IT WOULD DISAPPEAR, IT WOULD SIMPLY DISAPPEAR. 1228 01:06:29,186 --> 01:06:30,320 "WHAT HAPPENED TO MY REQUEST?" 1229 01:06:30,387 --> 01:06:31,788 "UH, WHAT REQUEST?" 1230 01:06:31,855 --> 01:06:34,858 HA. AND THIS HAPPENED OVER AND OVER AGAIN. 1231 01:06:40,930 --> 01:06:45,001 THIS $18 BILLION THAT WAS COMMITTED BY CONGRESS, 1232 01:06:45,069 --> 01:06:48,772 UH, WAS REALLY MISCONCEIVED AND MISSPENT, 1233 01:06:48,838 --> 01:06:50,074 IF IT WAS SPENT AT ALL. 1234 01:06:50,140 --> 01:06:51,975 WE EXPECT TO PRODUCE ENOUGH ELECTRICITY 1235 01:06:52,042 --> 01:06:53,377 FOR ALL IRAQIS TO HAVE 1236 01:06:53,443 --> 01:06:56,413 ELECTRICAL SERVICE 24 HOURS DAILY, 1237 01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:00,317 SOMETHING ESSENTIAL TO THEIR HOPES FOR THE FUTURE. 1238 01:07:00,384 --> 01:07:04,921 THERE WAS FRAUD, THERE WAS CORRUPTION, UM, THERE WAS WASTE. 1239 01:07:09,659 --> 01:07:12,429 Woman: THE ORDINARY PEOPLE HAVE THEIR ELECTRICITY 1240 01:07:12,496 --> 01:07:15,065 ONLY FOR TWO OR THREE HOURS A DAY. 1241 01:07:15,132 --> 01:07:19,236 WATER COMES EVERY, LIKE, NOW AND THEN, EVERY TWO OR THREE DAYS. 1242 01:07:19,303 --> 01:07:22,272 Fekeiki: WE SPENT WINTER SHIVERING, COVERED IN BLANKETS, 1243 01:07:22,339 --> 01:07:27,177 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH FUEL TO OPERATE THE HEATERS. 1244 01:07:27,244 --> 01:07:30,046 THAT'S--THAT'S-- THAT'S THE LIFE WE LIVE. 1245 01:07:45,395 --> 01:07:46,996 Narrator: IN MAY 2003, 1246 01:07:47,063 --> 01:07:49,166 THE UNITED NATIONS SENT ITS BEST EXPERT 1247 01:07:49,233 --> 01:07:52,602 IN POST-WAR RECONSTRUCTION TO HELP THE U.S. OCCUPATION. 1248 01:07:52,669 --> 01:07:56,306 HE WAS A BRAZILIAN DIPLOMAT NAMED SERGIO VIEIRA DE MELLO. 1249 01:07:56,373 --> 01:07:59,509 {\an8}Power: EVEN THOUGH THE U.N. WAS GIVEN NOTHING MEANINGFUL TO DO, 1250 01:07:59,576 --> 01:08:01,545 {\an8}KOFI ANNAN SAID, "LET ME SEND MY BEST. 1251 01:08:01,611 --> 01:08:05,349 {\an8}"IF ANYBODY CAN CARVE OUT A BIGGER ROLE FOR THE U.N., 1252 01:08:05,415 --> 01:08:07,384 {\an8}"IT'S MY GUY, IT'S SERGIO VIEIRA DE MELLO." 1253 01:08:07,451 --> 01:08:10,220 {\an8}AND I WAS PART OF HIS TEAM, AND I WAS HIS... 1254 01:08:10,287 --> 01:08:12,856 {\an8}PRINCIPAL POLITICAL ADVISOR AT THAT TIME 1255 01:08:12,922 --> 01:08:15,125 {\an8}AND WE WENT TOGETHER TO BAGHDAD. 1256 01:08:15,192 --> 01:08:18,027 OUR POLITICAL TEAM WERE ALL ARABIC SPEAKERS, 1257 01:08:18,094 --> 01:08:22,166 AND WITH GOOD EXPERIENCE WORKING IN THE REGION AND SO ON. 1258 01:08:22,232 --> 01:08:24,268 ONE OF THINGS THAT SERGIO DID THAT IS VERY, VERY POIGNANT 1259 01:08:24,334 --> 01:08:25,802 IN RETROSPECT IS THAT... 1260 01:08:25,869 --> 01:08:29,105 SEEING THAT THE UNITED STATES HAD BOARDED ITSELF UP 1261 01:08:29,173 --> 01:08:34,144 IN THE GREEN ZONE AND WAS NOT ACCESSING THE IRAQI STREET, 1262 01:08:34,211 --> 01:08:36,580 SERGIO CREATED A STRUCTURE IN IRAQ 1263 01:08:36,646 --> 01:08:38,348 THAT WAS PRECISELY THE OPPOSITE OF THE GREEN ZONE. 1264 01:08:38,415 --> 01:08:40,016 YOU MIGHT CALL IT THE ANTI-GREEN ZONE. 1265 01:08:40,083 --> 01:08:43,787 I'M LISTENING, I'M LISTENING TO POLITICAL LEADERS, 1266 01:08:43,853 --> 01:08:46,523 YOU KNOW, THAT I'LL BE MEETING WITH THEM ON A DAILY BASIS. 1267 01:08:46,590 --> 01:08:49,193 WE HAD VARIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH THESE MILITARY 1268 01:08:49,259 --> 01:08:51,328 WHO CAME TO THE U.N., 1269 01:08:51,395 --> 01:08:53,597 AND MET WITH SERGIO VIEIRA DE MELLO 1270 01:08:53,663 --> 01:08:56,099 AND ASKED HIM, YOU KNOW, TO MEDIATE 1271 01:08:56,166 --> 01:08:59,035 IN THE DISPUTE THAT THEY HAVE WITH THE C.P.A. 1272 01:08:59,102 --> 01:09:01,305 YOU'D HAVE THESE LONG, LONG LINES RIGHT OUTSIDE THE GREEN ZONE 1273 01:09:01,371 --> 01:09:03,707 BUT THEY COULD NOT MAKE THEIR COMPLAINTS FELT. 1274 01:09:03,773 --> 01:09:07,477 IN THE U.N. COMPOUND BY CONTRAST IT WAS INCREDIBLY POROUS. 1275 01:09:07,544 --> 01:09:10,514 IF YOU WANTED TO COMPLAIN, THE U.N. WAS, WAS VERY, VERY EAGER 1276 01:09:10,580 --> 01:09:13,417 TO HEAR YOUR COMPLAINT, AND SERGIO SAW IT AS HIS ROLE 1277 01:09:13,483 --> 01:09:15,785 TO RELAY THOSE COMPLAINTS TO BREMER, AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS 1278 01:09:15,852 --> 01:09:17,887 IN THE HOPES THAT SOME OF THESE THINGS WOULD GET TENDED TO 1279 01:09:17,954 --> 01:09:20,257 BEFORE AN INSURGENCY TOOK ROOT. 1280 01:09:20,324 --> 01:09:22,859 I'M MEETING WITH HIM REGULARLY, 1281 01:09:22,926 --> 01:09:26,129 AND SHARING MY ADVICE AND MY EXPERIENCE WITH HIM. 1282 01:09:26,196 --> 01:09:29,165 SOON AS BREMER HAD MADE USE OF SERGIO, 1283 01:09:29,233 --> 01:09:30,967 HAD MADE USE OF THE U.N., 1284 01:09:31,034 --> 01:09:33,937 UH, HE HAD ALMOST NO TIME FOR THE UNITED NATIONS. 1285 01:09:34,003 --> 01:09:35,505 AND SO WHAT SERGIO LIVED THROUGH 1286 01:09:35,572 --> 01:09:38,408 WAS TWO MONTHS OF, IN EFFECT, BEING USED 1287 01:09:38,475 --> 01:09:41,745 AS A VEHICLE TO GET TO CERTAIN SEGMENTS OF THE IRAQI SOCIETY, 1288 01:09:41,811 --> 01:09:43,146 AND THEN FOR HIS LAST MONTH 1289 01:09:43,213 --> 01:09:45,815 WHAT HE ENDURED WAS NOT HAVING HIS PHONE CALLS RETURNED. 1290 01:09:45,882 --> 01:09:48,084 AND SO ON ISSUES LIKE DETENTION POLICY, 1291 01:09:48,151 --> 01:09:50,954 UH, HOODINGS WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT SERGIO RAISED 1292 01:09:51,020 --> 01:09:54,224 AGAIN AND AGAIN WITH BREMER AND WITH GENERAL SANCHEZ, 1293 01:09:54,291 --> 01:09:57,227 THE HOODING OF PRISONERS, BREMER WOULD HEAR NONE OF IT. 1294 01:10:05,969 --> 01:10:10,607 THE THREE OR FOUR CRUCIAL MONTHS AFTER THE FALL OF BAGHDAD, 1295 01:10:10,674 --> 01:10:14,444 THE TWO MAIN THINGS THE U.S. MILITARY WAS DOING ON THE GROUND WERE 1296 01:10:14,511 --> 01:10:18,682 LOOKING FOR W.M.D. SUPPLIES AND LOOKING FOR SADDAM HUSSEIN. 1297 01:10:18,748 --> 01:10:21,050 THE PROCESS OF THOSE SEARCHES, 1298 01:10:21,117 --> 01:10:23,152 BUSTING IN THE DOORS AT NIGHT, 1299 01:10:23,219 --> 01:10:25,822 ROUNDING UP PEOPLE, TAKING THEM TO ABU GHRAIB, 1300 01:10:25,889 --> 01:10:29,959 HAVING MASS ARRESTS, IT HAD A REALLY EMBITTERING EFFECT. 1301 01:10:36,032 --> 01:10:37,834 Man: GO! LET'S GO! 1302 01:10:37,901 --> 01:10:40,404 LET'S GO! LET'S GO! 1303 01:10:54,183 --> 01:10:56,620 IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE A MILITARY-AGED IRAQI 1304 01:10:56,686 --> 01:10:59,723 IN AN AREA OF OPERATION WHERE THE AMERICAN MILITARY WENT INTO, 1305 01:10:59,789 --> 01:11:01,625 THERE WAS A GOOD CHANCE YOU WERE GOING TO BE ARRESTED 1306 01:11:01,691 --> 01:11:05,429 {\an8}OR INTERNED AS A SUSPECTED INSURGENT. 1307 01:11:05,495 --> 01:11:08,865 {\an8}JUST FOR BEING A MILITARY-AGE MAN IN THAT AREA OF OPERATION. 1308 01:11:08,932 --> 01:11:10,834 {\an8}IN MANY OCCASIONS YOU TAKE THE, YOU KNOW, 1309 01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:13,537 {\an8}THE IRAQI MAN OF MILITARY AGE OUT OF HIS FAMILY, 1310 01:11:13,603 --> 01:11:14,804 {\an8}YOU'RE TAKING THE BREADWINNER. 1311 01:11:25,281 --> 01:11:28,151 Burke: YOU ANGER NOT JUST HIM BUT YOU ANGER AN EXTENDED FAMILY 1312 01:11:28,217 --> 01:11:31,721 {\an8}'CAUSE HE'S PROBABLY SUPPORTING MORE THAN HIS IMMEDIATE FAMILY. 1313 01:11:35,224 --> 01:11:38,362 {\an8}WHENEVER THEY HEAR THE AMERICAN HELICOPTERS 1314 01:11:38,428 --> 01:11:40,864 {\an8}OR AMERICAN TANKS DRIVING IN THEIR STREETS, 1315 01:11:40,930 --> 01:11:43,299 {\an8}THEY IMMEDIATELY WAKE UP, 1316 01:11:43,367 --> 01:11:45,435 {\an8}EVEN IF IT'S LIKE TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, 1317 01:11:45,502 --> 01:11:48,472 {\an8}AND PREPARE THEMSELVES FOR THE DETENTION. 1318 01:11:48,538 --> 01:11:52,776 {\an8}BECAUSE FOR THEM THIS IS A USUAL THING HAPPENING EVEN NOW. 1319 01:11:54,177 --> 01:11:58,247 {\an8}THERE WERE ATTACKS ON THE AMERICAN SOLDIERS THEMSELVES 1320 01:11:58,314 --> 01:12:00,450 {\an8}AND SO THEY RESPONDED TO THOSE ATTACKS 1321 01:12:00,517 --> 01:12:03,019 {\an8}BY GOING OUT AND TRYING TO FIND THE INSURGENTS, 1322 01:12:03,086 --> 01:12:04,788 {\an8}AND IN GOING OUT AND TRYING TO FIND THE INSURGENTS, 1323 01:12:04,854 --> 01:12:09,058 {\an8}THEY SOMETIMES ARRESTED THE WRONG PERSON. 1324 01:12:09,125 --> 01:12:12,261 THEY EVEN SOMETIMES KILLED THE WRONG PERSON. 1325 01:12:12,328 --> 01:12:14,931 UH, ONCE PEOPLE WERE ARRESTED THEY TENDED TO DISAPPEAR 1326 01:12:14,998 --> 01:12:18,167 IN THE AMERICAN MILITARY PRISON SYSTEM 1327 01:12:18,234 --> 01:12:20,036 FOR A LONG TIME WITHOUT A TRACE. 1328 01:12:20,103 --> 01:12:22,138 THEIR FAMILIES COULDN'T GET ANY WORD OF THEM. 1329 01:12:28,445 --> 01:12:31,748 IT'S DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE AN OCCUPIED PERSON. 1330 01:12:31,815 --> 01:12:33,483 THEY POINT THEIR GUNS AT YOU FROM THEIR JEEPS. 1331 01:12:33,550 --> 01:12:35,018 THEY STOP YOU WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING. 1332 01:12:35,084 --> 01:12:37,621 IRAQIS COULD NOT UNDERSTAND INSTRUCTIONS 1333 01:12:37,687 --> 01:12:39,523 GIVEN TO THEM AT TRAFFIC CHECKPOINTS. 1334 01:12:39,589 --> 01:12:40,624 IF THEY WOULD APPROACH TOO QUICKLY 1335 01:12:40,690 --> 01:12:41,891 THEY WOULD GET SHOT AND KILLED. 1336 01:12:41,958 --> 01:12:44,227 MOST OF THE AMERICAN UNITS THAT I SPENT TIME WITH 1337 01:12:44,293 --> 01:12:46,930 HAVE TRIED VERY, VERY HARD TO ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT THING 1338 01:12:46,996 --> 01:12:48,632 AND TO NOT KILL ANYONE OR INJURE ANYONE 1339 01:12:48,698 --> 01:12:51,835 THEY HAVEN'T INTENDED TO OR NEEDED TOO. 1340 01:12:51,901 --> 01:12:55,004 UH, BUT THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT WARS ARE MESSY, 1341 01:12:55,071 --> 01:12:57,040 AND THIS ONE IN IRAQ, 1342 01:12:57,106 --> 01:12:59,275 WITH THE WAY THE INSURGENCY IS BEING WAGED, 1343 01:12:59,342 --> 01:13:00,510 IS PARTICULARLY SO. 1344 01:13:00,577 --> 01:13:04,247 ONE AFTER ANOTHER YOU HAVE THESE SHORT-TERM DECISIONS 1345 01:13:04,313 --> 01:13:06,816 WHICH BY THE END OF 2003 1346 01:13:06,883 --> 01:13:09,786 MEANT YOU HAD A COUNTRY WITH AN INSURGENCY UNDER WAY. 1347 01:13:13,923 --> 01:13:17,427 [SPEAKING ARABIC] 1348 01:13:19,195 --> 01:13:21,998 [EXPLOSION] 1349 01:13:35,278 --> 01:13:36,680 [PEOPLE SHOUTING AND SCREAMING] 1350 01:13:54,330 --> 01:13:55,699 Power: A RUSSIAN-MADE TRUCK 1351 01:13:55,765 --> 01:13:59,569 PULLED UP RIGHT OUTSIDE SERGIO VIEIRA DE MELLO'S WINDOW 1352 01:13:59,636 --> 01:14:03,039 AND SET OFF JUST A HUGE AMOUNT OF EXPLOSIVES. 1353 01:14:03,106 --> 01:14:07,243 THE ENTIRE SOUTHWESTERN CORNER OF THE U.N. BUILDING COLLAPSED. 1354 01:14:07,310 --> 01:14:09,278 SERGIO WAS UNDER THE RUBBLE AND ALIVE 1355 01:14:09,345 --> 01:14:12,516 FOR MORE THAN THREE HOURS AWAITING RESCUE. 1356 01:14:12,582 --> 01:14:15,451 WE LOST MANY COLLEAGUES IN THAT BOMBING 1357 01:14:15,519 --> 01:14:18,855 AND I THINK IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE SIGN THAT SOMETHING DRAMATIC 1358 01:14:18,922 --> 01:14:22,291 HAD HAPPENED IN THE COUNTRY, THAT THE INSURGENCY HAD BECOME 1359 01:14:22,358 --> 01:14:23,993 VERY LETHAL, FULL-FLEDGED, 1360 01:14:24,060 --> 01:14:27,296 READY FOR A LONG STRUGGLE AND LONG FIGHT, YOU KNOW, 1361 01:14:27,363 --> 01:14:29,432 WITH THE COALITION FORCES. 1362 01:14:33,002 --> 01:14:36,005 BY 2004, THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE MILITARY 1363 01:14:36,072 --> 01:14:38,942 AND THE IRAQI PEOPLE HAD GROWN TOXIC. 1364 01:14:41,177 --> 01:14:42,946 Man: ALL RIGHT, THIS IS THE CORNER WHERE LITTLE SHITS 1365 01:14:43,012 --> 01:14:45,281 LIKE TO THROW ROCKS AT US. 1366 01:14:45,348 --> 01:14:48,117 [MAN TALKING ON RADIO, INDISTINCT] 1367 01:14:48,184 --> 01:14:49,719 GOD DAMN! 1368 01:14:50,654 --> 01:14:52,421 [CRASH] 1369 01:14:52,488 --> 01:14:56,459 RIGHT THERE! OH, BUT WE CAN'T USE DEADLY FORCE. 1370 01:14:56,526 --> 01:14:58,027 WE CAN'T USE DEADLY FORCE. 1371 01:14:58,094 --> 01:14:59,829 Boy: FUCK YOU! 1372 01:14:59,896 --> 01:15:02,465 FUCK YOU, YOU LITTLE SHIT! 1373 01:15:02,532 --> 01:15:07,336 YOU SEE, UM, ALL THESE CIVILIANS WHO COME OVER TO WORK FOR... 1374 01:15:07,403 --> 01:15:08,838 THE PRIVATE CONTRACTORS 1375 01:15:08,905 --> 01:15:11,675 WHO ARE DOING SO MUCH OF THE WORK WITH THE RECONSTRUCTION, 1376 01:15:11,741 --> 01:15:13,509 REALLY JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TROOPS. 1377 01:15:29,793 --> 01:15:32,596 I'VE SEEN AN AWFUL LOT OF CIVILIAN CONTRACTORS 1378 01:15:32,662 --> 01:15:37,000 WHO HAVE BEEN PARTICULARLY VIOLENT AND, UM, 1379 01:15:37,066 --> 01:15:39,202 AND VERY SHORT-SIGHTED IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING. 1380 01:15:45,308 --> 01:15:47,644 [* COUNTRY MUSIC PLAYING] 1381 01:15:49,713 --> 01:15:51,781 [MACHINE GUN FIRING] 1382 01:15:56,352 --> 01:15:57,486 [GUNFIRE] 1383 01:16:01,157 --> 01:16:02,692 [GUNFIRE] 1384 01:16:04,193 --> 01:16:06,162 [RADIO CHATTER, GUNFIRE] 1385 01:16:12,969 --> 01:16:14,738 [GUNSHOTS] 1386 01:16:43,566 --> 01:16:45,301 Man: DID HE ALREADY FIGHT THE AMERICANS? 1387 01:16:45,368 --> 01:16:47,436 [2nd MAN TRANSLATES] 1388 01:16:51,675 --> 01:16:53,977 Narrator: BY EARLY 2004, FALLUJAH, 1389 01:16:54,043 --> 01:16:57,480 A CITY OF 350,000 PEOPLE WEST OF BAGHDAD, 1390 01:16:57,546 --> 01:17:00,950 HAD BECOME THE CENTER OF THE SUNNI INSURGENCY. 1391 01:17:05,088 --> 01:17:07,556 ON MARCH 31st, 2004, 1392 01:17:07,623 --> 01:17:10,593 FOUR AMERICAN MILITARY CONTRACTORS WERE KILLED, 1393 01:17:10,660 --> 01:17:13,229 AND THEIR BODIES WERE DRAGGED THROUGH THE STREETS OF FALLUJAH 1394 01:17:13,296 --> 01:17:14,864 BY CHEERING CROWDS. 1395 01:17:19,135 --> 01:17:21,137 {\an8}BEGINNING IN EARLY 2004, 1396 01:17:21,204 --> 01:17:23,106 {\an8}THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE COUNCIL, 1397 01:17:23,172 --> 01:17:24,874 {\an8}A POWERFUL 12-PERSON COMMITTEE 1398 01:17:24,941 --> 01:17:28,111 {\an8}THAT SITS ON TOP OF AMERICA'S INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, 1399 01:17:28,177 --> 01:17:31,114 {\an8}CONDUCTED SEVERAL ASSESSMENTS OF THE GROWING INSURGENCY 1400 01:17:31,180 --> 01:17:32,982 {\an8}WHICH IT PRESENTED TO THE WHITE HOUSE 1401 01:17:33,049 --> 01:17:35,384 {\an8}AND SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS. 1402 01:17:35,451 --> 01:17:39,022 {\an8}WELL, WE WERE CHRONICLING WHAT WAS A DEEPENING INSURGENCY. 1403 01:17:39,088 --> 01:17:42,158 {\an8}IT WAS BROADENING AND WAS NOT LIMITED TO FOREIGN FIGHTERS 1404 01:17:42,225 --> 01:17:44,593 {\an8}OR DISAFFECTED BA'ATHISTS. 1405 01:17:44,660 --> 01:17:46,930 {\an8}WHAT WE CALL THE INSURGENCY 1406 01:17:46,996 --> 01:17:50,366 {\an8}REALLY IS A MULTIFACETED, DEEPLY ROOTED THING. 1407 01:17:50,433 --> 01:17:52,635 {\an8}UH, IT'S JUST NOT A FEW BA'ATHIST DEAD-ENDERS, 1408 01:17:52,702 --> 01:17:56,272 {\an8}IT'S NOT JUST A FEW EXTREMISTS FROM OVERSEAS, 1409 01:17:56,339 --> 01:18:00,810 {\an8}UH, BUT RATHER REFLECTED MULTIPLE MOTIVATIONS 1410 01:18:00,877 --> 01:18:02,045 {\an8}AND FRUSTRATIONS 1411 01:18:02,111 --> 01:18:03,546 {\an8}AMONG THE IRAQI PEOPLE THEMSELVES. 1412 01:18:03,612 --> 01:18:07,350 Hutchings: AS THE ECONOMIC SITUATION WAS DETERIORATING, 1413 01:18:07,416 --> 01:18:11,654 AS PEOPLE'S PERSONAL SECURITY WAS BECOMING WEAKER, 1414 01:18:11,721 --> 01:18:15,892 AND AS RESENTMENT OF THE AMERICAN OCCUPATION WAS GROWING. 1415 01:18:15,959 --> 01:18:19,395 THE C.I.A., UH, UH, 1416 01:18:19,462 --> 01:18:21,865 LAID OUT A, UH... 1417 01:18:21,931 --> 01:18:24,734 SEVERAL SCENARIOS 1418 01:18:24,801 --> 01:18:28,237 THAT SAID LIFE COULD BE LOUSY, LIFE COULD BE OK, 1419 01:18:28,304 --> 01:18:29,939 LIFE COULD BE BETTER. 1420 01:18:30,006 --> 01:18:31,941 THE PRESIDENT HADN'T READ IT, 1421 01:18:32,008 --> 01:18:35,044 NOT EVEN A ONE-PAGE SUMMARY OVER WHICH WE WORKED SO HARD 1422 01:18:35,111 --> 01:18:38,381 TO REDUCE THESE FINDINGS TO A SINGLE READABLE PAGE. 1423 01:18:38,447 --> 01:18:40,516 THE PRESIDENT HAD NOT READ EVEN THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY? 1424 01:18:40,583 --> 01:18:41,517 CORRECT. 1425 01:18:41,584 --> 01:18:45,989 AND THEY WERE JUST, UH, UH... 1426 01:18:46,055 --> 01:18:48,157 GUESSING AS TO WHAT THE CONDITIONS MIGHT BE LIKE. 1427 01:18:48,224 --> 01:18:50,794 WHAT'S YOUR ESTIMATE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN IRAQ 1428 01:18:50,860 --> 01:18:56,132 {\an8}WHO HAVE BEEN ACTIVE AT SOME LEVEL IN THE INSURGENCY? 1429 01:18:56,199 --> 01:18:59,435 {\an8}ACTIVE IN SOME LEVEL, UH, IF YOU SAY SUPPORTING, 1430 01:18:59,502 --> 01:19:01,637 {\an8}PROVIDING SAFE HAVEN TO, 1431 01:19:01,704 --> 01:19:04,774 {\an8}POTENTIALLY YOU KNOW, WELL OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE. 1432 01:19:18,654 --> 01:19:21,290 Narrator: DESPITE THE INTENSIFICATION OF THE INSURGENCY, 1433 01:19:21,357 --> 01:19:23,860 THERE WERE STILL NOT SUFFICIENT ARMORED VEHICLES 1434 01:19:23,927 --> 01:19:25,694 FOR AMERICAN SOLDIERS IN IRAQ. 1435 01:19:25,761 --> 01:19:27,363 WE NEVER HAD A SINGLE ARMORED HUMVEE 1436 01:19:27,430 --> 01:19:30,366 WHILE WE WERE IN IRAQ THROUGHOUT 2003. 1437 01:19:30,433 --> 01:19:33,102 WE WENT TO IRAQ IN 2004 1438 01:19:33,169 --> 01:19:34,938 WITH UNARMORED HUMVEES 1439 01:19:35,004 --> 01:19:38,741 AND THEY WERE GIVEN ARMOR KITS IN KUWAIT 1440 01:19:38,808 --> 01:19:41,811 WHICH WERE JUST SORT OF CUT-OUT DOORS WITH NO WINDOWS, 1441 01:19:41,878 --> 01:19:45,514 UM, AND A BULLETPROOF WINDSHIELD AND THAT'S ABOUT IT. 1442 01:19:45,581 --> 01:19:48,117 IF YOUR HUMVEE HADN'T BEEN ARMORED, 1443 01:19:48,184 --> 01:19:51,154 {\an8}WHAT DO YOU THINK THE DAMAGE FROM THAT I.E.D. WOULD HAVE BEEN? 1444 01:19:51,220 --> 01:19:52,822 {\an8}I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DEADLY. 1445 01:19:52,889 --> 01:19:56,092 {\an8}WHY DO WE SOLDIERS HAVE TO DIG THROUGH LOCAL LANDFILLS 1446 01:19:56,159 --> 01:19:57,760 {\an8}FOR PIECES OF SCRAP METAL 1447 01:19:57,827 --> 01:20:00,763 {\an8}AND COMPROMISED BALLISTIC GLASS TO UP-ARMOR OUR VEHICLES, 1448 01:20:00,830 --> 01:20:02,131 {\an8}AND WHY DON'T WE HAVE THOSE RESOURCES 1449 01:20:02,198 --> 01:20:03,933 {\an8}READILY AVAILABLE TO US? 1450 01:20:05,734 --> 01:20:07,636 [CHEERING] 1451 01:20:09,906 --> 01:20:12,375 IT--IT'S ESSENTIALLY A MATTER OF PHYSICS, 1452 01:20:12,441 --> 01:20:13,910 IT ISN'T A MATTER OF MONEY. 1453 01:20:13,977 --> 01:20:17,480 IT ISN'T A MATTER, ON THE PART OF THE ARMY, OF DESIRE, 1454 01:20:17,546 --> 01:20:21,284 IT'S A MATTER OF PRODUCTION AND CAPABILITY OF DOING IT. 1455 01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:24,820 WE HAVE AUTOMOBILE PLANTS CLOSING DOWN IN AMERICA. 1456 01:20:24,888 --> 01:20:29,092 YOU KNOW? I MEAN, I'M NOT A FACTORY EXPERT, 1457 01:20:29,158 --> 01:20:31,660 JUST RETOOL THEM TO PRODUCE SOME ARMORED HUMVEES. 1458 01:20:31,727 --> 01:20:32,962 IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT DIFFICULT. 1459 01:20:33,029 --> 01:20:35,531 YOU GO TO WAR WITH THE ARMY YOU HAVE, 1460 01:20:35,598 --> 01:20:39,402 AND NOT THE ARMY YOU MIGHT WANT OR WISH TO HAVE AT A LATER TIME. 1461 01:20:44,507 --> 01:20:49,078 Narrator: IN NOVEMBER 2004, THE PENTAGON DECIDED TO ATTACK FALLUJAH 1462 01:20:49,145 --> 01:20:50,746 IN AN ATTEMPT TO RECAPTURE THE CITY 1463 01:20:50,813 --> 01:20:52,848 FROM THE SUNNI INSURGENCY. 1464 01:20:52,916 --> 01:20:56,685 FALLUJAH'S 350,OOO RESIDENTS WERE WARNED TO LEAVE. 1465 01:21:05,194 --> 01:21:07,931 THE BATTLE DESTROYS 70% OF THE CITY 1466 01:21:07,997 --> 01:21:11,200 AND RENDERS 150,000 PEOPLE HOMELESS. 1467 01:21:11,267 --> 01:21:14,603 DESPITE INTENSE COMBAT, MANY INSURGENTS ESCAPE. 1468 01:21:14,670 --> 01:21:16,605 40 MARINES ARE KILLED. 1469 01:21:18,674 --> 01:21:21,710 WHILE THE U.S. MILITARY WAS PREOCCUPIED WITH FALLUJAH, 1470 01:21:21,777 --> 01:21:24,647 SHI'ITE MILITIAS WERE TAKING OVER SOUTHERN IRAQ. 1471 01:21:33,389 --> 01:21:38,894 THERE'S NOTHING LIKE AN ARMY OR A MAJOR, UM... 1472 01:21:38,962 --> 01:21:41,030 LARGE ELEMENTS OF HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE 1473 01:21:41,097 --> 01:21:44,533 TRYING TO OVERTHROW OR TO CHANGE THE SITUATION. 1474 01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:46,569 Narrator: IN AUGUST 2004, 1475 01:21:46,635 --> 01:21:49,872 THE HOLY CITY OF NAJAF IS TAKEN OVER BY THE MAHDI ARMY, 1476 01:21:49,939 --> 01:21:54,110 THE SHI'ITE MILITIA CONTROLLED BY MUQTADA AL-SADR. 1477 01:21:58,414 --> 01:22:00,984 Moulton: ESSENTIALLY THE TURNOVER WE GOT FROM THE ARMY UNIT 1478 01:22:01,050 --> 01:22:02,751 THAT WE REPLACED WAS 1479 01:22:02,818 --> 01:22:07,723 THAT MOST THINGS IN NAJAF ARE PRETTY PEACEFUL. 1480 01:22:07,790 --> 01:22:09,993 EXCEPT THERE'S THIS 3,000-MAN MILITIA FORCE 1481 01:22:10,059 --> 01:22:11,627 THAT OCCUPIES THE CENTER OF THE CITY. 1482 01:22:14,197 --> 01:22:16,632 A LOT OF ROUNDS FLYING, A LOT OF MORTARS LANDING. 1483 01:22:16,699 --> 01:22:20,003 MY PLATOON WAS THE FIRST INTO THE POLICE STATION. 1484 01:22:20,069 --> 01:22:23,839 WE JUST TOOK UP POSITIONS ALONGSIDE THE IRAQI POLICE, 1485 01:22:23,906 --> 01:22:25,874 AND DEFENDED IT FROM THE MILITIA. 1486 01:22:25,941 --> 01:22:27,610 BUT IT WASN'T UNTIL THE END OF AUGUST 1487 01:22:27,676 --> 01:22:30,279 THAT WE ACTUALLY DID A FULL-SCALE ASSAULT 1488 01:22:30,346 --> 01:22:32,881 {\an8}ON THE OLD CITY OF NAJAF AND TOOK IT OVER. 1489 01:22:37,820 --> 01:22:40,489 {\an8}IF DEMOCRACY CANNOT PROVIDE FOR THE IRAQI PEOPLE, 1490 01:22:40,556 --> 01:22:42,758 {\an8}PEOPLE WILL SAY, "TO HELL WITH DEMOCRACY, 1491 01:22:42,825 --> 01:22:44,360 {\an8}"WE NEED A STRONG MAN." 1492 01:22:44,427 --> 01:22:46,362 {\an8}AND I CAN SEE THE STRONG MAN ALREADY IN THE OFFING, 1493 01:22:46,429 --> 01:22:48,264 HIS NAME IS MUQTADA AL-SADR. 1494 01:22:48,331 --> 01:22:50,599 AND I WOULD SAY THIS IS NOT A GOOD CHOICE 1495 01:22:50,666 --> 01:22:52,868 FOR THE FUTURE LEADER OF IRAQ. 1496 01:22:52,935 --> 01:22:55,738 WHERE YOU PART OF THE DELIBERATIONS 1497 01:22:55,804 --> 01:22:59,908 ABOUT WHETHER TO CAPTURE OR KILL MUQTADA AL-SADR? 1498 01:22:59,975 --> 01:23:01,777 UH, YES, I WAS. 1499 01:23:01,844 --> 01:23:04,213 DID WE SEE MUQTADA AL-SADR AS A TROUBLEMAKER 1500 01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:05,514 AND A THORN IN THE SIDE? 1501 01:23:05,581 --> 01:23:07,716 ABSOLUTELY, AND WE WANTED TO ARREST HIM. 1502 01:23:07,783 --> 01:23:11,020 IT GETS BACK, IN MY VIEW, TO THE MATTER OF TROOP STRENGTH. 1503 01:23:11,087 --> 01:23:12,388 THE U.S. MILITARY DIDN'T WANT TO BE DIVERTED 1504 01:23:12,455 --> 01:23:14,057 FROM THEIR MAJOR MISSION, 1505 01:23:14,123 --> 01:23:16,792 TO GO AFTER WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A PROBABLY SHORT-TERM 1506 01:23:16,859 --> 01:23:20,863 BUT DIFFICULT AND I'M SURE BLOODY BATTLE, 1507 01:23:20,929 --> 01:23:24,633 UH, AND ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHAT WON OUT. 1508 01:23:24,700 --> 01:23:29,505 Narrator: AFTER ELECTIONS WERE HELD IN IRAQ ON DECEMBER 15th 2005, 1509 01:23:29,572 --> 01:23:31,240 THE UNITED IRAQI ALLIANCE, 1510 01:23:31,307 --> 01:23:34,677 OF WHICH MUQTADA AL-SADR'S PARTY IS A MAJOR PARTICIPANT, 1511 01:23:34,743 --> 01:23:38,214 TOOK NEARLY HALF THE SEATS IN IRAQ'S CENTRAL GOVERNMENT. 1512 01:23:38,281 --> 01:23:40,749 THAT'S NOT EASY A MARINE WHO'S SOMEONE, YOU KNOW... 1513 01:23:40,816 --> 01:23:45,288 SOME OF MY BUDDIES WERE KILLED BY HIM AND HIS MILITIA, 1514 01:23:45,354 --> 01:23:49,158 AND NOW LOOKING AT IRAQ AND SEEING HIM AS A RISING POLITICIAN, 1515 01:23:49,225 --> 01:23:51,026 THAT'S FRUSTRATING. 1516 01:23:51,094 --> 01:23:54,097 Narrator: ANOTHER SHI'ITE GROUP WITHIN SADR'S ALLIANCE IS S.C.I.R.I., 1517 01:23:54,163 --> 01:23:57,666 THE SUPREME COUNCIL FOR ISLAMIC REVOLUTION IN IRAQ. 1518 01:23:57,733 --> 01:24:00,336 S.C.I.R.I.'S LEADERSHIP LIVED IN IRAN FOR 20 YEARS, 1519 01:24:00,403 --> 01:24:02,505 AND IS FREQUENTLY PRO-IRANIAN. 1520 01:24:02,571 --> 01:24:04,006 THESE TWO SHI'ITE GROUPS, 1521 01:24:04,073 --> 01:24:06,942 WHICH SOMETIMES ENGAGE IN ARMED COMBAT WITH EACH OTHER, 1522 01:24:07,009 --> 01:24:09,712 ARE POLITICALLY ALLIED AGAINST SUNNI GROUPS. 1523 01:24:09,778 --> 01:24:11,780 MUQTADA AL-SADR'S MAHDI ARMY 1524 01:24:11,847 --> 01:24:15,118 CONTINUES TO CLASH WITH U.S. FORCES. 1525 01:24:15,184 --> 01:24:17,019 THE LEVEL OF ACTIVITY THAT WE SEE TODAY, 1526 01:24:17,086 --> 01:24:20,089 FROM A MILITARY STANDPOINT I THINK WILL CLEARLY DECLINE, 1527 01:24:20,156 --> 01:24:23,692 AND I THINK THEY ARE IN THE LAST THROES, IF YOU WILL, OF THE INSURGENCY. 1528 01:24:23,759 --> 01:24:28,397 WHEN SECRETARY RUMSFELD AND VICE-PRESIDENT CHENEY 1529 01:24:28,464 --> 01:24:31,567 MADE THEIR COMMENTS ABOUT THE INSURGENCY DYING OUT, 1530 01:24:31,634 --> 01:24:33,969 BEING A FEW DEAD-ENDERS, ET CETERA, 1531 01:24:34,036 --> 01:24:37,906 YOU KNEW THAT THE INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATES 1532 01:24:37,973 --> 01:24:41,110 ALREADY INDICATED THAT THEY WERE WRONG? 1533 01:24:41,177 --> 01:24:43,112 I HAD BEEN TO IRAQ EIGHT TIMES, 1534 01:24:43,179 --> 01:24:45,981 I KNEW WHAT THE FACTS ON THE GROUND WERE. 1535 01:24:46,048 --> 01:24:47,883 THEY'LL HAVE TO SPEAK AND THEY WILL BE JUDGED 1536 01:24:47,950 --> 01:24:49,485 BY THEIR OWN WORDS AND ACTIONS, 1537 01:24:49,552 --> 01:24:51,454 BUT, UH, I KNEW WHAT THE FACTS WERE. 1538 01:24:57,193 --> 01:25:00,496 Narrator: STARTING IN 2005, THE ADMINISTRATION SLOWLY BEGAN 1539 01:25:00,563 --> 01:25:02,865 TO CORRECT SOME OF ITS MISTAKES. 1540 01:25:02,931 --> 01:25:05,468 IT ACCELERATED TRAINING OF THE IRAQI ARMY 1541 01:25:05,534 --> 01:25:07,336 AND APPOINTED A MUSLIM DIPLOMAT, 1542 01:25:07,403 --> 01:25:10,072 ZALMAY KHALILZAD, AS AMBASSADOR. 1543 01:25:10,139 --> 01:25:11,974 IN JUNE OF 2006, 1544 01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,643 AMBASSADOR KHALILZAD SENT AN OMINOUS CABLE 1545 01:25:14,710 --> 01:25:16,645 TO CONDOLEEZZA RICE. 1546 01:25:16,712 --> 01:25:18,113 IRAQIS WORKING FOR THE EMBASSY 1547 01:25:18,181 --> 01:25:20,349 COULD NOT TELL THEIR FAMILIES WHERE THEY WORKED 1548 01:25:20,416 --> 01:25:22,385 FOR FEAR OF BEING KILLED. 1549 01:25:22,451 --> 01:25:25,521 THEY ASK WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THE AMERICANS EVACUATE. 1550 01:25:25,588 --> 01:25:29,158 MANY PLAN AHEAD FOR THEIR OWN ABDUCTION. 1551 01:25:29,225 --> 01:25:30,359 SIX MONTHS LATER, 1552 01:25:30,426 --> 01:25:33,596 THE DAY AFTER REPUBLICANS LOSE CONTROL OF CONGRESS, 1553 01:25:33,662 --> 01:25:37,233 PRESIDENT BUSH ANNOUNCES DONALD RUMSFELD'S RESIGNATION. 1554 01:25:37,300 --> 01:25:39,735 THE NEW SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, ROBERT GATES, 1555 01:25:39,802 --> 01:25:43,038 IS A PRAGMATIST WHO HAD BEEN PRIVATELY CRITICAL OF THE WAR. 1556 01:25:43,105 --> 01:25:45,941 I AM MAKING A CHANGE AT THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE 1557 01:25:46,008 --> 01:25:48,644 TO BRING A FRESH PERSPECTIVE AS TO HOW TO ACHIEVE SOMETHING 1558 01:25:48,711 --> 01:25:50,713 I THINK MOST AMERICANS WANT, WHICH IS A VICTORY. 1559 01:26:06,729 --> 01:26:08,797 Narrator: BY THE TIME RUMSFELD IS REPLACED, 1560 01:26:08,864 --> 01:26:10,799 IRAQ IS OUT OF CONTROL. 1561 01:26:10,866 --> 01:26:13,569 THE COUNTRY IS INCREASINGLY DOMINATED BY MILITIAS, 1562 01:26:13,636 --> 01:26:16,639 INSURGENTS, CRIMINALS AND WARLORDS. 1563 01:26:16,705 --> 01:26:19,675 MIXED AREAS ARE PURGED BY ETHNIC CLEANSING. 1564 01:26:19,742 --> 01:26:22,144 SHI'ITE MILITIAS HAVE INFILTRATED THE POLICE, 1565 01:26:22,211 --> 01:26:24,413 USING THEM FOR SECTARIAN KILLINGS. 1566 01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:26,114 KIDNAPPINGS AND VIOLENT DEATHS 1567 01:26:26,181 --> 01:26:29,151 {\an8}HAVE REACHED SEVERAL HUNDRED PER DAY. 1568 01:26:35,224 --> 01:26:37,059 {\an8}Ussayran: WE HAVE SO MANY KINDS OF MILITIA. 1569 01:26:37,125 --> 01:26:38,961 {\an8}YOU HAVE THE MAHDI MILITIA, 1570 01:26:39,027 --> 01:26:40,396 {\an8}YOU HAVE THE BADR MILITIA, 1571 01:26:40,463 --> 01:26:43,198 {\an8}YOU HAVE MANY MILITIAS IN THIS COUNTRY. 1572 01:26:43,266 --> 01:26:45,768 {\an8}AND THEY ALL ARE VERY DEMOCRATIC 1573 01:26:45,834 --> 01:26:50,539 {\an8}IN ARRESTING PEOPLE AND KILLING THEM. 1574 01:26:50,606 --> 01:26:53,776 Allbritton: SECURITY IS TERRIBLE IN MANY NEIGHBORHOODS 1575 01:26:53,842 --> 01:26:56,945 WITH AN EVER-PRESENT THREAT OF CAR BOMBS AND I.E.D.s. 1576 01:27:12,928 --> 01:27:16,832 KIDNAPPINGS, ESPECIALLY SHEER MONEY-MAKING GANGSTER STUFF. 1577 01:27:16,899 --> 01:27:20,403 KIDNAPPING OF A SMALL BOY RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE HOTEL, 1578 01:27:20,469 --> 01:27:22,971 YOU KNOW, A CAR JUST STOPPED, GRABBED THE BOY AND DROVE OFF. 1579 01:27:23,038 --> 01:27:24,607 PARENTS WILL GET A RANSOM NOTE AND THEY'LL SOMEHOW 1580 01:27:24,673 --> 01:27:26,342 {\an8}HAVE TO RAISE THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY IN A WEEK. 1581 01:27:26,409 --> 01:27:28,877 {\an8}IT'S NOT WHERE YOU JUST HAVE ONE OR TWO OR THREE KIDNAPPINGS 1582 01:27:28,944 --> 01:27:31,780 {\an8}BUT YOU HAVE HUNDREDS, AND YOU GET OVERWHELMED. 1583 01:27:42,525 --> 01:27:45,160 {\an8}YOU JUST HAVE A DELUGE OF INDIVIDUALS 1584 01:27:45,227 --> 01:27:47,996 {\an8}WHO ARE ASKING FOR HELP OR--OR-- 1585 01:27:48,063 --> 01:27:50,566 OR SOON DON'T ASK FOR HELP ANYMORE. 1586 01:27:50,633 --> 01:27:53,268 WHY REPORT IT TO THE POLICE? ONE, WE DON'T TRUST THEM. 1587 01:27:53,336 --> 01:27:55,338 TWO, THEY MAY BE COMMITTING SOME OF THE CRIME. 1588 01:27:55,404 --> 01:27:58,741 Allbritton: THE UNIFORMS THAT THEY USE JUST PROLIFERATED ALL OVER THE PLACE. 1589 01:27:58,807 --> 01:28:01,076 SO YOU REALLY HAVE LOTS OF ROGUE ELEMENTS 1590 01:28:01,143 --> 01:28:04,847 AND PEOPLE THAT ARE USING OR WORKING UNDER THE GUISE OF THE SECURITY SERVICES. 1591 01:28:04,913 --> 01:28:08,817 Ussayran: NOW YOU CAN SEE PEOPLE ARRESTED BY MANY SOURCES. 1592 01:28:08,884 --> 01:28:10,353 YOU DON'T KNOW WHO ARE THEY. 1593 01:28:10,419 --> 01:28:13,789 FAKE CHECKPOINTS IN THE STREETS STOP PEOPLE PASSING 1594 01:28:13,856 --> 01:28:17,793 AND LOOK INTO THEIR I.D.s AND SEE IF THEY WERE SHI'ITES, 1595 01:28:17,860 --> 01:28:21,330 SUNNIS, KURDS, ARABS, AND THEN... 1596 01:28:21,397 --> 01:28:24,333 EITHER KIDNAP THEM OR KILL THEM IN THE SAME PLACE. 1597 01:28:27,035 --> 01:28:28,771 Ussayran: WHEN I SAY GOOD-BYE TO MY HUSBAND 1598 01:28:28,837 --> 01:28:30,739 I THINK I'M NOT COMING BACK. 1599 01:28:34,176 --> 01:28:38,280 Narrator: BY LATE 2006, BAGHDAD HAD FALLEN INTO NEAR ANARCHY. 1600 01:28:38,347 --> 01:28:41,083 THE U.S. MILITARY CONTROLLED THE GREEN ZONE 1601 01:28:41,149 --> 01:28:43,686 AND THE AREA AROUND BAGHDAD AIRPORT. 1602 01:28:43,752 --> 01:28:47,556 IRAQI SECURITY FORCES CONTROLLED AREAS IN THE EAST AND SOUTH. 1603 01:28:47,623 --> 01:28:49,124 THE SUNNI MILITIAS CONTROLLED 1604 01:28:49,191 --> 01:28:51,794 SEVERAL PREDOMINANTLY SUNNI NEIGHBORHOODS. 1605 01:28:51,860 --> 01:28:55,598 MUQTADA AL-SADR'S MAHDI ARMY DOMINATED LARGE AREAS 1606 01:28:55,664 --> 01:28:58,934 INCLUDING THE ENORMOUS SHI'ITE SLUM OF SADR CITY. 1607 01:28:59,001 --> 01:29:02,304 S.C.I.R.I.'S RIVAL SHI'ITE MILITIA, THE BADR BRIGADE, 1608 01:29:02,371 --> 01:29:04,607 CONTROLLED WEALTHIER SHI'ITE AREAS. 1609 01:29:04,673 --> 01:29:07,910 NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS CONTROLLED MANY SMALL ZONES. 1610 01:29:07,976 --> 01:29:12,214 LARGE AREAS WERE ESSENTIALLY CONTROLLED BY NO ONE. 1611 01:29:18,220 --> 01:29:19,588 Narrator: FROM A STUDY CONDUCTED BY 1612 01:29:19,655 --> 01:29:21,390 HARVARD PROFESSOR LINDA BILMAS 1613 01:29:21,457 --> 01:29:23,859 AND NOBEL LAUREATE JOSEPH STIGLITZ, 1614 01:29:23,926 --> 01:29:29,097 {\an8}AS OF EARLY 2007, THE U.S. HAS SPENT $379 BILLION 1615 01:29:29,164 --> 01:29:31,400 {\an8}DIRECTLY ON THE WAR IN IRAQ. 1616 01:29:31,467 --> 01:29:36,038 {\an8}FUTURE OPERATING COSTS ARE ESTIMATED AT $389 BILLION. 1617 01:29:36,104 --> 01:29:38,006 {\an8}THE COSTS OF VETERANS' HEALTHCARE 1618 01:29:38,073 --> 01:29:40,643 {\an8}AND LOST PRODUCTIVITY OF THOSE SERVING IN IRAQ 1619 01:29:40,709 --> 01:29:43,078 {\an8}IS $482 BILLION. 1620 01:29:43,145 --> 01:29:46,515 {\an8}THE COSTS OF DEMOBILIZATION AND REPLACING MILITARY EQUIPMENT, 1621 01:29:46,582 --> 01:29:49,485 {\an8}WHICH IS BEING USED UP SIX TIMES FASTER THAN NORMAL, 1622 01:29:49,552 --> 01:29:51,887 {\an8}IS $160 BILLION. 1623 01:29:51,954 --> 01:29:54,490 {\an8}THE INCREASE IN OIL PRICES DUE TO THE WAR, 1624 01:29:54,557 --> 01:29:59,562 {\an8}HAVE COST THE U.S. ECONOMY $450 BILLION. 1625 01:29:59,628 --> 01:30:02,097 {\an8}IN TOTAL, THE ECONOMIC COST OF THE WAR 1626 01:30:02,164 --> 01:30:05,267 {\an8}IS PROJECTED TO REACH $1.8 TRILLION DOLLARS. 1627 01:30:06,435 --> 01:30:09,171 {\an8}I'M SUFFERING FROM... 1628 01:30:09,237 --> 01:30:12,407 POST-TRAUMATIC MIGRAINES 1629 01:30:12,475 --> 01:30:14,677 AND POST-TRAUMATIC EPILEPSY. 1630 01:30:17,379 --> 01:30:24,553 SOMETIMES I HAVE BAD MEMORIES ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED 1631 01:30:24,620 --> 01:30:26,622 BUT I'M NOT SCARED OF THEM. 1632 01:30:26,689 --> 01:30:28,891 DO YOU FEEL EMOTIONALLY OK? 1633 01:30:28,957 --> 01:30:32,294 UH, SOMETIMES THAT'S A LITTLE... 1634 01:30:35,230 --> 01:30:36,732 SOMETIMES YES, SOMETIMES NO. 1635 01:30:38,233 --> 01:30:41,069 STILL HAVE TROUBLE, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH, UM, 1636 01:30:41,136 --> 01:30:43,071 UM, YOU KNOW, 1637 01:30:43,138 --> 01:30:45,541 WHAT HAPPENED TO ME AND MY PARTNER, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES. 1638 01:30:47,576 --> 01:30:51,313 Bilmes: THE BIG, BIG COST IN TERMS OF VETERANS' DISABILITY 1639 01:30:51,379 --> 01:30:53,782 {\an8}IS FOR THE MANY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE 1640 01:30:53,849 --> 01:30:57,119 {\an8}WHO COME BACK AND THEY FIND THAT THEY CAN'T WORK 1641 01:30:57,185 --> 01:30:59,387 {\an8}AND HOLD DOWN A JOB IN THE WAY THEY USED TO 1642 01:30:59,454 --> 01:31:03,492 {\an8}BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT QUITE THE SAME AS THEY WERE BEFORE. 1643 01:31:03,559 --> 01:31:05,393 {\an8}Man: HOW HOT DOES IT GET IN THIS COUNTRY? 1644 01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:06,729 120 YESTERDAY. 1645 01:31:06,795 --> 01:31:10,032 Man: 120 YESTERDAY? YEP. 1646 01:31:10,098 --> 01:31:12,601 LAST CONTRACT I EVER SIGN WITH THE GOVERNMENT. 1647 01:31:12,668 --> 01:31:14,002 SOME OF THESE UNITS HAVE BEEN THERE NOW 1648 01:31:14,069 --> 01:31:15,704 ON THEIR THIRD TOUR OF DUTY, 1649 01:31:15,771 --> 01:31:17,673 AND SOME OF THEM DON'T SEE AN END TO IT. 1650 01:31:17,740 --> 01:31:19,441 THEY THINK THEY'LL BE BACK THERE FOR THEIR FIFTH, 1651 01:31:19,508 --> 01:31:21,944 SIXTH AND SEVENTH TOURS OF DUTY BEFORE THIS ENDS. 1652 01:31:22,010 --> 01:31:23,779 WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TROOPS. 1653 01:31:23,846 --> 01:31:25,447 HOW COULD WE PROTECT AGAINST 1654 01:31:25,514 --> 01:31:27,916 A POSSIBLE CONFLICT IN PYONGYANG, 1655 01:31:27,983 --> 01:31:30,018 A POSSIBLE CONFLICT WITH IRAN, 1656 01:31:30,085 --> 01:31:32,487 OTHER POTENTIALITIES IN THE WORLD, 1657 01:31:32,555 --> 01:31:34,623 WHEN WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING TIED UP 1658 01:31:34,690 --> 01:31:36,759 WITH REGARD TO IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN? 1659 01:31:36,825 --> 01:31:39,662 {\an8}IRAN IS ODDLY, 1660 01:31:39,728 --> 01:31:45,400 {\an8}GIVEN HOW MUCH WE DISLIKE THE IRANIAN REGIME, 1661 01:31:45,467 --> 01:31:49,605 {\an8}THE SINGLE GREATEST BENEFICIARY OF THE WAR IN IRAQ. 1662 01:31:49,672 --> 01:31:52,575 {\an8}WE ELIMINATED THEIR HISTORIC ENEMY FOR THEM 1663 01:31:52,641 --> 01:31:56,478 {\an8}AND PUT THEM ON TOP IN THE PERSIAN GULF. 1664 01:31:56,545 --> 01:31:59,414 I MEAN, WHEN YOU HAVE MASSIVE CIVIL WAR, 1665 01:31:59,481 --> 01:32:00,783 VIOLENT, NASTY CIVIL WAR 1666 01:32:00,849 --> 01:32:02,718 ON TOP OF 20% OF THE WORLD'S OIL SUPPLY, 1667 01:32:02,785 --> 01:32:04,887 THAT WILL PROBABLY ENGULF OTHER REGIONAL PLAYERS-- 1668 01:32:04,953 --> 01:32:09,291 IRAN, SAUDI ARABIA, JORDAN, SYRIA, MAYBE EVEN EGYPT. 1669 01:32:09,357 --> 01:32:14,329 Amazia Baram: IF IRAQ DISINTEGRATES AND BECOMES AN ARENA OF CIVIL WAR, 1670 01:32:14,396 --> 01:32:16,999 MUCH OF IT WILL BECOME LIKE LITTLE AFGHANISTAN. 1671 01:32:17,065 --> 01:32:21,169 IT'S WHERE TERRORISTS ALL OVER THE WORLD WILL FIND REFUGE. 1672 01:32:21,236 --> 01:32:25,941 IF IRAQ GOES BACK TO SOME SORT OF ISLAMOFASCIST REGIME, 1673 01:32:26,008 --> 01:32:28,977 LIKE WE HAD UNDER THE TALIBAN IN AFGHANISTAN, 1674 01:32:29,044 --> 01:32:31,580 THEN WE ARE BACK TO SEPTEMBER 10TH 2001, 1675 01:32:31,647 --> 01:32:34,683 EXCEPT MUCH LARGER SCALE 1676 01:32:34,750 --> 01:32:38,587 AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN OIL MINING IN THEIR DISPOSAL. 1677 01:32:38,654 --> 01:32:41,790 WHEN WE WERE FIRST STARTING THE RECONSTRUCTION 1678 01:32:41,857 --> 01:32:43,558 WE WOULD SORT OF JOKE 1679 01:32:43,626 --> 01:32:45,628 THAT THERE WERE 500 WAYS TO DO IT WRONG 1680 01:32:45,694 --> 01:32:48,030 AND TWO OR THREE WAYS TO DO IT RIGHT, 1681 01:32:48,096 --> 01:32:49,632 AND WHAT WE DIDN'T UNDERSTAND 1682 01:32:49,698 --> 01:32:52,034 WAS THAT WE WERE GONNA GO THROUGH ALL 500. 1683 01:32:52,100 --> 01:32:53,902 WHY DO YOU THINK ALL THOSE MISTAKES WERE MADE? 1684 01:32:53,969 --> 01:32:55,738 I DON'T KNOW. 1685 01:32:55,804 --> 01:32:59,007 I HAVE NO IDEA. PUZZLING. 1686 01:33:01,610 --> 01:33:04,780 Packer: PRESIDENT BUSH WAS MISSING IN ACTION 1687 01:33:04,847 --> 01:33:06,682 ON THE PLANNING FOR THE POST-WAR. 1688 01:33:06,749 --> 01:33:09,084 HE DEFERRED TO HIS VICE-PRESIDENT 1689 01:33:09,151 --> 01:33:10,753 AND HIS SECRETARY OF DEFENSE 1690 01:33:10,819 --> 01:33:13,521 THE CONTROL OVER THOSE DECISIONS. 1691 01:33:13,588 --> 01:33:16,124 Burke: WHY ON EARTH, IF YOU WERE PRESIDENT OF UNITED STATES, 1692 01:33:16,191 --> 01:33:18,927 WOULD YOU PLAN TO USE MILITARY FORCE AND THEN DIVORCE YOURSELF 1693 01:33:18,994 --> 01:33:23,331 FROM ESSENTIALLY THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THAT USE 1694 01:33:23,398 --> 01:33:25,367 AND THAT IS THE AFTERMATH. 1695 01:33:25,433 --> 01:33:26,802 WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THIS WAR? 1696 01:33:26,869 --> 01:33:28,336 I DON'T WANNA GO THROUGH THE LIST. I MEAN IT WAS-- 1697 01:33:28,403 --> 01:33:29,805 IT WAS THE PRESIDENT, THE VICE-PRESIDENT, 1698 01:33:29,872 --> 01:33:31,206 THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE, 1699 01:33:31,273 --> 01:33:33,642 THOSE AROUND, AROUND ALL THOSE PEOPLE. 1700 01:33:33,709 --> 01:33:35,210 DO YOU INCLUDE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER? 1701 01:33:35,277 --> 01:33:36,244 SURE. 1702 01:33:36,311 --> 01:33:38,146 THE VICE-PRESIDENT YOU INCLUDE? 1703 01:33:38,213 --> 01:33:39,381 YEAH. 1704 01:33:39,447 --> 01:33:40,916 THAT WAS THE INNER TEAM 1705 01:33:40,983 --> 01:33:44,086 THAT PRODUCED THE THINKING BEHIND THE WAR. 1706 01:33:44,152 --> 01:33:46,588 MY MISTAKE WAS PROBABLY NOT FINDING A WAY TO GET MYSELF 1707 01:33:46,655 --> 01:33:48,691 MORE INVOLVED ON THE PLANNING PROCESS OF THINGS. 1708 01:33:48,757 --> 01:33:50,158 I SEE. 1709 01:33:50,225 --> 01:33:51,960 SO THE DISSOLUTION OF THE ARMY 1710 01:33:52,027 --> 01:33:53,595 WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A SURPRISE, FOR EXAMPLE? 1711 01:33:53,662 --> 01:33:55,330 WELL, AND I COULD HAVE RAISED HELL ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, 1712 01:33:55,397 --> 01:33:59,334 AND HAD MY DAY IN COURT. I MAY HAVE LOST BUT I'D HAD MY DAY IN COURT. 1713 01:33:59,401 --> 01:34:02,037 THE SYSTEM OUGHT TO BE PARTICIPATORY 1714 01:34:02,104 --> 01:34:04,606 AND OUGHT TO INCLUDE PEOPLE WHO ARE WILLING TO SAY, 1715 01:34:04,673 --> 01:34:07,209 "UH, THIS MAKES NO SENSE, MR. PRESIDENT. 1716 01:34:07,275 --> 01:34:08,977 "THIS IS A BAD IDEA." 1717 01:34:09,044 --> 01:34:11,579 AND I DON'T THINK THAT KIND OF DECISION-MAKING PROCESS 1718 01:34:11,646 --> 01:34:13,916 EXISTED IN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION. 1719 01:34:13,982 --> 01:34:16,518 I STRONGLY DIDN'T FEEL MYSELF PARTICIPATING 1720 01:34:16,584 --> 01:34:19,221 IN SUCH A DECISION-MAKING PROCESS. 1721 01:34:19,287 --> 01:34:21,990 THE ADMINISTRATION NEVER ASKED FOR ANY... 1722 01:34:22,057 --> 01:34:25,327 ESTIMATE OR COMMUNITY ASSESSMENT ON IRAQ BEFORE WE WENT TO WAR. 1723 01:34:25,393 --> 01:34:28,096 NOBODY SEEMED TO BE INTERESTED 1724 01:34:28,163 --> 01:34:29,497 IN WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAD TO SAY? 1725 01:34:29,564 --> 01:34:31,834 I THINK IT'S MORE A MATTER THAT MINDS WERE MADE UP 1726 01:34:31,900 --> 01:34:34,202 THE TIME THAT THE COURSE WAS SET. 1727 01:34:34,269 --> 01:34:38,240 UH, WHATEVER ANALYSIS ON THESE SORTS OF ISSUES 1728 01:34:38,306 --> 01:34:40,242 WAS TO HAVE BEEN DONE, 1729 01:34:40,308 --> 01:34:41,609 THE DECISION MAKERS FELT 1730 01:34:41,676 --> 01:34:43,245 THEY HAD ALREADY DONE IT THEMSELVES. 1731 01:34:43,311 --> 01:34:45,147 Man: VICE-PRESIDENT CHENEY OF COURSE HAS MADE 1732 01:34:45,213 --> 01:34:46,514 AND TAKES MANY OF THE SAME POSITIONS 1733 01:34:46,581 --> 01:34:48,951 THAT SECRETARY RUMSFELD DID ON THE WAR. 1734 01:34:49,017 --> 01:34:50,518 DOES HE STILL HAVE YOUR COMPLETE CONFIDENCE? 1735 01:34:50,585 --> 01:34:51,987 YES, HE DOES. DO YOU EXPECT HIM TO-- 1736 01:34:52,054 --> 01:34:53,956 THE CAMPAIGN IS OVER. YES, HE DOES. 1737 01:34:54,022 --> 01:34:56,458 AND HE'LL BE HERE FOR THE REMAINED OF YOUR TERM? YES, HE WILL. 1738 01:34:56,524 --> 01:35:01,096 THERE ARE NIGHTS WHEN I DON'T SLEEP VERY WELL, 1739 01:35:01,163 --> 01:35:04,266 THAT I FAULT MYSELF FOR NOT PUSHING THE ISSUE, 1740 01:35:04,332 --> 01:35:07,102 THAT I THINK I SHOULD HAVE GONE AND KICKED HIS DOOR IN AND SAID, 1741 01:35:07,169 --> 01:35:08,303 "DAMN IT, LISTEN. 1742 01:35:08,370 --> 01:35:09,905 "THIS WAS A MISTAKE. 1743 01:35:09,972 --> 01:35:12,841 "WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING TO RECTIFY IT." 1744 01:35:12,908 --> 01:35:16,411 BUT I NEVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT, 1745 01:35:16,478 --> 01:35:18,680 AND TRYING TO KICK IN A DOOR, YOU KNOW, 1746 01:35:18,747 --> 01:35:22,117 WITH AN AMBASSADOR WHO'S ESSENTIALLY THE, YOU KNOW, 1747 01:35:22,184 --> 01:35:24,853 THE CZAR OF IRAQ. 1748 01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:26,421 YOU KNOW, FOR A COLONEL TO TRY AND DO IT 1749 01:35:26,488 --> 01:35:28,090 JUST WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. 1750 01:35:28,156 --> 01:35:30,158 YOU COULDN'T GET PAST THE FRONT DOOR. 1751 01:35:30,225 --> 01:35:34,362 IF MY SPEAKING OUT ADDS EVEN INFINITESIMALLY 1752 01:35:34,429 --> 01:35:39,601 TO THE CRITICISM THAT COUNTS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION, 1753 01:35:39,667 --> 01:35:41,436 THEN THAT'S GOOD. 1754 01:35:41,503 --> 01:35:44,506 I DON'T PRETEND TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN EFFECTIVE IN THAT REGARD, 1755 01:35:44,572 --> 01:35:48,110 BUT I JUST CAN'T HOLD MY PEACE ANY LONGER. 1756 01:35:48,176 --> 01:35:51,679 WE WILL BRING TO THE IRAQI PEOPLE FOOD 1757 01:35:51,746 --> 01:35:53,515 AND MEDICINES 1758 01:35:53,581 --> 01:35:55,717 AND SUPPLIES 1759 01:35:55,784 --> 01:35:57,719 AND FREEDOM. 1760 01:36:16,638 --> 01:36:18,907 Man: HEAR THE CHEER, CHEER, CHEER! 1761 01:36:30,252 --> 01:36:33,221 AND IT JUST WAS, "HENNY PENNY, THE SKY IS FALLING!" 1762 01:36:37,625 --> 01:36:40,162 GENERAL GARNER AND I ARE PLEDGED 1763 01:36:40,228 --> 01:36:41,629 TO WORKING VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER. 1764 01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,037 THERE IS A LARGE NUMBER OF FORMER IRAQI SOLDIERS 1765 01:36:49,104 --> 01:36:50,205 THAT ARE UNEMPLOYED NOW. 1766 01:36:55,077 --> 01:36:56,811 ONE WAS, UH, "GUERRILLA WAR", 1767 01:36:56,879 --> 01:37:00,815 ANOTHER WAS "INSURGENCY", ANOTHER WAS "UNCONVENTIONAL WAR". 1768 01:37:04,586 --> 01:37:06,354 PARDON ME? QUAGMIRE. 1769 01:37:08,190 --> 01:37:11,960 NO, THAT'S, UH, SOMEONE ELSE'S BUSINESS, QUAGMIRES. 1770 01:37:12,027 --> 01:37:13,228 I DON'T DO QUAGMIRES. 1771 01:37:13,295 --> 01:37:15,597 [MEN SHOUTING, WOMAN SCREAMING] 1772 01:37:17,699 --> 01:37:19,467 Man: INSIDE, INSIDE. 1773 01:37:19,534 --> 01:37:22,905 I'M LISTENING, I'M LISTENING TO POLITICAL LEADERS. 1774 01:37:33,215 --> 01:37:34,716 Man: OH! 1775 01:37:34,782 --> 01:37:36,551 2nd man: STAY DOWN, STAY DOWN, STAY DOWN. 1776 01:37:36,618 --> 01:37:41,256 SOME DAY, MY LIFE IN THE FUTURE, I GOTTA LOOK BACK TO IRAQ, 1777 01:37:41,323 --> 01:37:44,026 AND I GOTTA SEE SOMETHING DONE IN THERE, 1778 01:37:44,092 --> 01:37:46,561 SO I CAN LOOK BACK AND SAY 1779 01:37:46,628 --> 01:37:48,396 I WAS PART OF THIS, 1780 01:37:48,463 --> 01:37:54,236 AND MY SUFFERING AND MY LOSS HAVE A--HAVE A MEANING. 1781 01:37:59,574 --> 01:38:01,876 [SPEAKING ARABIC] 1782 01:38:03,979 --> 01:38:09,084 IF THE SITUATION GETS BETTER, I AM GOING TO LEAVE IRAQ. 1783 01:38:09,151 --> 01:38:11,186 I WILL LEAVE IRAQ, BUT NOW... 1784 01:38:11,253 --> 01:38:14,089 I'M A FIGHTER, I MEAN, ALL MY LIFE. 1785 01:38:14,156 --> 01:38:15,423 I WON'T LEAVE IRAQ NOW. 1786 01:38:19,527 --> 01:38:21,396 Fekeiki: FROM HERE WE CAN'T CHANGE ANYTHING 1787 01:38:21,463 --> 01:38:23,698 BECAUSE IT'S OUT OF CONTROL NOW. 1788 01:38:23,765 --> 01:38:29,004 I DON'T HAVE FUTURE PLANS FOR BEING IN IRAQ. 1789 01:38:29,071 --> 01:38:32,274 I DON'T SEE THE BIT OF LIGHT IN THE-- 1790 01:38:32,340 --> 01:38:34,909 AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL YET. 1791 01:38:34,977 --> 01:38:36,478 Rosen: THIS IS WHAT IT IS. 1792 01:38:36,544 --> 01:38:38,513 THIS IS HOW WE LIVE IT, THIS IS HOW WE SEE IT, 1793 01:38:38,580 --> 01:38:40,782 THIS IS HOW WE SMELL IT AND FEEL IT. 1794 01:38:40,848 --> 01:38:43,818 IT'S NOT A SITUATION THAT YOU CAN SAY, "LET'S TRY THIS, 1795 01:38:43,885 --> 01:38:46,421 "IT WILL HELP. TRY THIS, IT WILL HELP." NO, IT'S NOT. 1796 01:38:53,595 --> 01:38:57,265 AND ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT'S THE BEST AMERICA CAN DO? 1797 01:38:57,332 --> 01:38:58,800 NO. 1798 01:38:58,866 --> 01:39:01,436 DON'T TELL ME THAT, DON'T TELL THE MARINES 1799 01:39:01,503 --> 01:39:04,172 WHO FOUGHT FOR A MONTH IN NAJAF THAT, 1800 01:39:04,239 --> 01:39:06,008 DON'T TELL ME THE MARINES WHO-- 1801 01:39:06,074 --> 01:39:07,575 WHO ARE STILL FIGHTING EVERY DAY IN FALLUJAH 1802 01:39:07,642 --> 01:39:09,577 THAT THAT'S THE BEST AMERICA CAN DO. 1803 01:39:12,014 --> 01:39:13,315 THAT MAKES ME ANGRY. 218382

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