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All right, buckle your seatbelt.
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This is going to be the bet.
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If I won,
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I get to come over to your
house with my bag of goodies.
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Inside my bag of goodies,
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there are several different
bundles of Shibari rope.
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Shibari is the Japanese
art of rope bondage.
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My bet was going to involve
showing up at your place
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and tying you up and
incapacitating you,
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and then being able
to do whatever I wanted
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to every single hole in your
body until I was done with you.
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Trouble for Golden Globe
nominee Armie Hammer,
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known for his roles
in The Social Network
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and Call Me By Your Name.
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Disturbing messages
allegedly sent to women
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by the actor Armie Hammer
are trending on Twitter.
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Shocking DMs allegedly sent from
Armie Hammer’s public accounts
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are going viral on social media.
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How did Armie Hammer go
from Hollywood golden boy
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to an alleged abuser?
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The actor Armie Hammer has
been confirmed as the suspect
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in an alleged sexual assault case by
the Los Angeles Police Department.
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I thought we were joking
about that Hammer stuff,
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but that’s real. I just
found out that that’s real?
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His aunt wrote a
book about their family,
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and this stuff didn’t
start with Armie.
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I know my grandfather
had a dark side.
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I saw my father's
dark side firsthand,
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and I've seen my
brother's dark side.
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And I've just heard about
Armie's dark side, but I believe it.
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More, more, more.
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Every generation of my family
has been involved in dark misdeeds.
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And it just gets worse
and worse and worse.
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My name's Courtney Vucekovich.
I am from Dallas, Texas.
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I am the CEO and founder
of an app called FLASHD.
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I started that in 2017.
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I’m here to talk about...
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what happened in my
relationship with Armie Hammer.
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I would love to be
able to paint a picture
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of the red flags
that I saw. And...
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what happened in order
for me to get in the mindset
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where I was almost fully
controlled by somebody.
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I had lost my
entire sense of self.
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You’re his, completely.
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I think it was November,
December 2019.
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I remember the lights
in Highland Park Village.
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They light up. It's
super-gorgeous.
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I was trying to enjoy a night
with my friends at a bar in Dallas.
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My friend said, "That's Armie
Hammer from the movie."
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I didn’t know who he
was. But he was tall
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and he didn’t dress like a frat boy,
so I was like, "Oh, he's super-cute."
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We, like, saw each
other in passing,
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spoke very briefly at the
bar. And then I go home.
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But then I woke up the next morning,
and he had added me on Instagram.
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I followed him back
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and we just sat there from
afar looking at each other’s lives.
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He acts very goofy. I remember
being like, "This is fun."
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It made him feel interesting.
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Breaking news tonight as the
COVID-19 virus continues to spread,
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forcing millions of
Americans into lockdown,
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non-essential business
ordered to close.
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Covid happened in March,
so everything shut down.
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My business was on pause.
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So you’re, like, sitting
there with your thoughts.
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It was difficult. And
then June 2020,
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I get an Armie Hammer
DM. Little blue check mark.
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He just chose to speak to
me one day, so I was like...
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You know, in my brain I’m like,
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"I’ve been doing nothing for a
month. It’s COVID, this is interesting."
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But I was very hesitant because
I see the persona that was public,
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was he’s married, and he is a
father of these two beautiful kids.
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So I was like, "Aren’t
you married?" You know?
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He’s like, "My wife and I have
been separated for almost two years.
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I’ve been living in New
York, she lives in LA."
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And I believed it, he would
send me text messages
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and call me every day.
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Constant communication,
the second he woke up
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to we’d fall asleep
on the phone together.
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And immediately, he was just
sharing all these things with me.
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Intimate details about
his parents, family secrets.
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And I’m like, "Wow."
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This is really powerful.
He must feel really safe.
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In return, I felt very
safe telling him mine.
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I had gotten out of a really,
really toxic relationship,
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and we were sharing
just very intimate things.
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A lot of the things we shared
were trauma we experienced
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as children.
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And it is even a
deeper connection.
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Really rooted those bonds for me
that he was so vulnerable to share,
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because I never told
anybody. I wanted to help him.
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At the same time, he’s
blowing me up with compliments.
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"How could you be this
beautiful, this smart, so funny?
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You're such a good
listener. You get me."
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He's like, "I feel such an
intense connection with you.
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Is that crazy? Are we being crazy?"
And I'm just like, "Maybe we are."
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Between the love
bombing and the attention,
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I felt like this was all
perfect. This was amazing.
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Like what we are all taught to
think is a fairytale when we are little.
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Not only is he an actor,
a pretty well-known actor.
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He was gorgeous and tall.
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What does he want with me?
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You know, to say that
it didn't have an effect...
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I think it would have
an effect on anybody.
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Unfortunately, Armie
Hammer can’t be here,
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which is probably better
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because we’d all be staring at him
since he is such a goddamn hunk.
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There's people that, if
they shine their light on you,
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you believe you're the
only one in the room.
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There is an element
of that to Armie.
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I know Armie
through acting class.
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{\an8}We were in the same Tuesday
night acting class for years.
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I got to watch his
kind of rise to stardom.
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Armie had bit player
roles in the beginning.
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{\an8}He would have a couple of
lines. You know, it builds a resume.
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And then he got Gossip Girl, and
that was what, a couple episodes.
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We were all in the same kind of boat,
we were scrambling to get auditions.
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The Social Network auditions
kind of hit like a tornado.
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Everybody was
auditioning for these roles.
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This is a great opportunity.
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Armie was cast as
the Winklevoss twins.
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They had the idea for
Facebook on the Harvard campus.
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You know, the attributes
are tall, good-looking,
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comes from extreme
wealth. Armie has all of those.
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And I do remember
hearing that David Fincher,
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the director of The Social
Network, liked Armie's pedigree.
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These are millionaires.
Who knows better than that
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than the descendant
of Armand Hammer?
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I can’t get over what a
great name Armie Hammer is.
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It's a hard name when you're
five as it’s short for Armand,
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which is a big
name for a little kid.
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Named for your great grandfather,
who was the billionaire owner
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of Occidental Petroleum,
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which sounds like the bad corporation
in a Batman movie, by the way.
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Armie didn't like speaking
about his family or his history.
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Having lived in
Hollywood for 20 years,
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you see the name Hammer
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on museums and on parks,
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so I knew that family has
a lot of money and power.
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{\an8}My name is Seth Abramovitch. I
write for The Hollywood Reporter.
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When I interviewed Armie,
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he was in award contention
for Call Me By Your Name
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and was on that teetering cusp
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of establishing himself as a force
to be contended with in Hollywood.
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We started at Holmby Park
in Westwood at his request.
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There is a sign that says, "The
Armand Hammer Golf Course."
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I was like, "Look, it’s your
great-grandfather’s name."
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Dr. Hammer parlayed outstanding
private success into public power
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as chairman and CEO
of Occidental Petroleum,
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a diversified
16-billion-dollar company.
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Dr. Armand Hammer is one of
the world’s leading capitalists.
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Armie’s a very handsome
actor who came out of privilege
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and the history of his
family is interesting.
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No typical childhood.
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So right away, I was intrigued
by who this person was.
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Armie was born in
Santa Monica, California,
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and he said his father
made an unusual decision
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which was to move the
family to the Cayman Islands.
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He and his young brother were
brought there from a young age.
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I was curious. Why
the Cayman Islands?
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I associate the Cayman Islands
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with offshore bank accounts
that can’t be touched,
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so I assumed it was
something financial.
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They return to Los Angeles,
I think he was in 7th grade.
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And Armie started
pursuing this idea
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he had when he was younger.
He wanted to be an actor.
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The Social Network
started his career.
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{\an8}He starred opposite Justin
Timberlake, Andrew Garfield.
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It was the movie of the year.
That was what made him.
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I remember bumping into
him, and all of the sudden,
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there's Armie in
a three-piece suit,
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looking amazing,
looking like a movie star.
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It’s official. I have arrived.
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And Elizabeth was with him.
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- I’m here with my beautiful wife.
- Hi.
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The roles just kept coming,
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where he was always
playing the handsome man.
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But the problem was, it was a
wave of box office bombs after bombs.
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You know, these
movies weren’t hitting.
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What movie besides Social
Network had really made money?
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Thankfully, Call Me By
Your Name happened
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and got him buzzing again.
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There was this buzz
everywhere you looked
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in the run up to this
movie coming out.
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It just sounded very
daring, very sexy.
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The two of them together
being sexual on screen
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was going to make headlines.
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He was taking a real risk.
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Hollywood loves when an
actor takes a risk like that.
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So that buzz is what
pushed him onto our cover.
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You were reading about him
all the time. People cared more.
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He was doing massive
press for the movie
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as he was on an Oscar campaign.
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"Your fans want
to hear from you."
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You could say Armie
started cosplaying the life
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of kind of a perfect
movie star, if you will.
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He seemed to be doing
things the exact right way.
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He had the picture-perfect
marriage, he had two children,
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everything he described was
much lovey-dovey, fairy tale.
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He came from this family
of wealth and privilege,
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and his career was swimming.
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Generally, you did not get
the whiff of scandal around him.
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There was one thing
that repeatedly came up
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when I talked to people and
told them I was profiling him,
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and it was about that he had a
sort of edgy interest in BDSM sex.
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I did bring it up,
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and he shut me
down pretty decisively.
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He said he has less of a comment
than even if he had no comment.
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Julia. Are you okay
to bring up your phone
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so we can talk about
some of those examples?
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I haven’t really
digested this one.
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He says, "I have a fantasy
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about having someone
prove their love and devotion
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and tying them up in
a public place at night
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and making their body free use
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and seeing if they will
fuck strangers for me."
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When I saw that Armie
Hammer was following me,
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it was about a week
before quarantine.
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And I looked up his Instagram,
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and I said, "Oh, it's the guy
from The Social Network ."
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Like, he's a big movie star. He
was just in Call Me By Your Name.
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I opened up my messages
with the intention of saying,
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"Thanks for the follow,"
or something like that.
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And I had seen that he had
already messaged me in 2017.
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And it was this long message.
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He was inquiring about a
series of photographs of me.
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And when I reached out back to
him almost exactly three years later...
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he got back to me within an hour,
and then we just started talking.
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{\an8}My name is Julia Morrison.
I am an artist and writer
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{\an8}based in New York
and Los Angeles.
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That series of artworks
is titled For Arabella
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by an artist named Sarah Bahbah.
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They are about a toxic relationship
and breaking free from that.
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You have very existentialist
sorts of captions with beautiful girls.
234
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A lot of them are
quite provocative.
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I did ask him which artworks of
that series he was drawn in by.
236
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He said he liked that
photo of me being choked.
237
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He started saying
like, "You’re so perfect.
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It’s like you were made for me."
239
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Which is ironic, because, you know,
he completely missed the message.
240
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Being a young
woman in this industry
241
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where you're modeling,
acting, making art,
242
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people shower you
with compliments,
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and you're like, "My shit's tight.
Why wouldn't they be obsessed?"
244
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So, like, I mean, I don’t want
to sound totally full of myself,
245
00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:27,799
but, no, I was not fully
alarmed. I was more intrigued.
246
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He invited me to a
play really early on.
247
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Within a few hours really of
our conversation was, you know,
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"Oh, are you in New York?
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I'm working on a play
here. Do you want to come?"
250
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And I was interested in going,
and then lockdown happens.
251
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Shortly after, things became
sexual in conversation.
252
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It didn’t really seem that
unnatural, at first, for me
253
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because of the context of the times
we were going through in that moment.
254
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You know, my friends were
telling me about zoom dates
255
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and phone sex with so and so
from, you know, Hinge or Tinder.
256
00:18:11,839 --> 00:18:16,960
And I'm speaking with Armie
Hammer like this in my Instagram DMs.
257
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Once the sexual nature
of the DMs started,
258
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it was all he wanted
to ever talk about.
259
00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,356
He says to me, "Fine.
Let's be open and honest.
260
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I've wanted to tie you up since I
saw the pictures and messaged you.
261
00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:42,316
Shibari is how it's spelled, it's
the Japanese art of rope bondage
262
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with its cousin Kinbaku
for total restraint."
263
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And then he was saying to me
about how if I were to submit to him
264
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at the level where
he could, you know,
265
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call me and say one word and
get me to come on command,
266
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like Pavlovian dog style.
267
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Like kind of getting you
into this submissive space
268
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where, like, you know, he's,
you know, the dominant...
269
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These are messages being
sent within seconds of each other.
270
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You know, very heavy
and very frequent.
271
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"Let me take care of everything?
You don't worry about anything
272
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except being a good little pet,
my own personal little slave.
273
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In return, you will be
worshipped, fed, and fucked.
274
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I was like, "Like."
275
00:19:53,839 --> 00:19:56,715
But those little hearts
means you're engaged
276
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or that you received it.
277
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That’s different than being in
an intimate space with someone.
278
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All of that very forward talk
279
00:20:07,279 --> 00:20:11,515
was kind of like back
and forth for six months.
280
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But I did Google and see that
he had, you know, had a family.
281
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And so I figured a man who is
married who is doing that with me,
282
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I am not naïve enough to
think that I’m the only one.
283
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For July 4th,
284
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he tells me he was
doing this road trip.
285
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{\an8}He was going Miami to
LA, and cross through Texas.
286
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{\an8}I had plans to go to The
Hamptons with some friends.
287
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It was already set.
288
00:20:46,519 --> 00:20:50,435
And he almost got upset with
me that I was going to be gone
289
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when he was driving through.
290
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Somebody had my phone
291
00:20:55,559 --> 00:20:58,440
and, "Somebody named
Armie has called you 22 times."
292
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,796
He sends me a
picture, when I'm away,
293
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of my building in Dallas.
294
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:26,356
At this point, we’ve never spent
time together, so it was weird.
295
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:31,480
I remember being like, "Are
we flirting, or is this scary?"
296
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I get back from New York,
and he left me this note.
297
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,396
"Oh, this will be a cute note."
298
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:58,359
I open the envelope, and it
says, "I'll bite the fuck out of you."
299
00:22:01,599 --> 00:22:04,319
And then he
autographed this note.
300
00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:08,675
I didn’t know how to
feel about the note.
301
00:22:08,759 --> 00:22:11,515
You know it was like...
302
00:22:11,599 --> 00:22:13,955
He talks sweetly
sometimes on the phone,
303
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compliments and compliments.
304
00:22:15,799 --> 00:22:19,079
And I get a note that says,
"I'll bite the fuck out of you."
305
00:22:20,279 --> 00:22:24,596
As crazy as that sounds,
I took it metaphorically.
306
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,916
I thought he wanted the
intimacy, the closeness,
307
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wanted us to be together.
308
00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:34,515
So I chose to look at it as
more flattering than concerning.
309
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When I told my friends
about us, I left that part out.
310
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I think that says a lot.
311
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Elizabeth Chambers
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and her actor-husband
Armie Hammer split.
313
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On Friday, the movie star shared
the news in an Instagram post.
314
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Quote, "It has been
an incredible journey,
315
00:22:55,039 --> 00:22:56,636
but together we’ve decided
316
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to turn the page and
move on from our marriage."
317
00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:03,035
{\an8}They released a joint
statement, interestingly.
318
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They'd be supportive
of each other.
319
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,035
"This was an amicable split.
320
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We’ve grown apart,
we’ve done everything."
321
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There’s this thing of, like,
322
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if you get married young,
if you have kids young,
323
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{\an8}eventually, you are going
to have a mid-life crisis
324
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{\an8}or something that you’ll
explore these darker sides.
325
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,359
Or was that Armie all along?
326
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,876
I was coming to
LA to see a friend.
327
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:41,556
After talking constantly, Armie and I
were like, "Okay, we have to meet."
328
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,556
This is a new experience to me.
329
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,839
I've never been with
somebody like this.
330
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:02,556
He's like, "We're going on
an adventure, to the desert."
331
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:06,235
This is flirty, fun, different,
332
00:24:06,319 --> 00:24:08,960
but bizarre, risky. I've
never met this man.
333
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,519
So I’m freaking out.
334
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,076
I’m so anxious.
335
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,839
I didn't know what
was going to happen.
336
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,876
When I got to LA,
337
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,916
the plan was, Armie would pick me
up after I had dinner with my friends.
338
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,515
I was very nervous. So was
he, he was texting me like,
339
00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:39,880
"I can’t believe
this, I’m so nervous."
340
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,475
He pulls his truck
up, and I had my dog,
341
00:24:46,559 --> 00:24:48,596
and I had a little suitcase.
342
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,715
{\an8}We saw each other, we
kissed on the lips immediately.
343
00:24:51,799 --> 00:24:56,755
{\an8}I think we were both like,
"What?" It just felt natural.
344
00:24:56,839 --> 00:25:01,119
I got in the car, and then
we were off to the desert.
345
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,396
It was very surreal. I’d spent, like,
the last month talking to this person
346
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:17,156
five hours a day, and then you
are spending time with each other.
347
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,799
We spent every day together
for the next three weeks.
348
00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:26,515
We spent a lot of
time in 29 Palms.
349
00:25:26,599 --> 00:25:30,960
Armie's friend owns a
motel that he's renovating.
350
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,839
They’ve painted it.
351
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:41,039
I have a picture of my little
dog under this, like, motel sign.
352
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,916
Here is where we
would have, like...
353
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,116
you know, like, dinners
right here on this long table,
354
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,556
candle-lit dinners. We
didn't leave each other's side.
355
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:02,316
If my chair was a foot away
from his, he's pulling my chair over.
356
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,195
He’s always like...
His hand's on my leg.
357
00:26:06,279 --> 00:26:09,675
Even the first day we met, his
hand was always just on my knee,
358
00:26:09,759 --> 00:26:12,396
Always touching
me, showing affection,
359
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,279
making me feel really
comfortable and really safe.
360
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:22,119
It was so hot. So I'd be in a bikini
all day, on the back of the scooter.
361
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,636
At night, we would go by the
pool at the back of the motel
362
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,995
and put a projector out and
a screen and just watch E.T.
363
00:26:37,079 --> 00:26:42,519
It felt like... I don’t know, it felt
like another world. It felt magical.
364
00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:51,275
We really connected
just as two people,
365
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,796
not a famous actor and...
366
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,319
me, who’s a very private person.
I’m just a business owner in Dallas.
367
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,275
It's not me to drop everything
and leave for a man.
368
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,876
I've never been like that.
369
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,235
I was starting to
fall for him, for sure.
370
00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:13,995
I wouldn’t have said "I love you,"
but it was heading towards that.
371
00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:15,715
I took a picture right there,
372
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,556
a post to remember how
happy I am for a second.
373
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,035
I truly was so fucking happy.
374
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,519
I was like, "I can’t believe
this is happening to me."
375
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,799
But there were times that
something didn't feel right.
376
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,920
This is at this tractor supply
where he looked for those ropes.
377
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,995
He would take me
in the rope section.
378
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:56,076
They were out of rope,
and I was just like, thankful.
379
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,955
I'm just like, "Okay, let’s go."
380
00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:02,755
I think that's when he sensed
that was out of my comfort zone,
381
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:05,759
so he kind of softened.
382
00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:10,955
One night he was
like, "Watch this movie."
383
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:14,675
It's called Secretary. It is
one of his favorite movies.
384
00:28:14,759 --> 00:28:19,556
Maggie Gyllenhaal is
the assistant to this lawyer.
385
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,839
He was training her
to be very submissive.
386
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,316
She acts as the desk,
387
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,475
or she'll do the
stapler with her chin,
388
00:28:31,559 --> 00:28:33,396
or do everything for him.
389
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,836
And I just was like, "Is this
what he wants from me?"
390
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,000
And...
391
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,079
there was one thing
that happened to me.
392
00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:49,596
I don’t even like
to think about it.
393
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,556
The situation that
happened was something...
394
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,796
I didn’t...
395
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:01,715
It’s something you speak
about before it’s done,
396
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:06,356
and we didn’t
speak about this. I...
397
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,515
It was something that
has never been done to me,
398
00:29:09,599 --> 00:29:14,636
and it is something that is
very degrading, belittling.
399
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,400
And I just don’t...
400
00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:21,400
I don't like to... I don’t
want to put it out there.
401
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,356
And then I’m like, "Holy shit.
I’ve got to get back to my life."
402
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,319
So I go home.
403
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:43,000
I broke down in the
shower. Crying in the shower.
404
00:29:44,079 --> 00:29:47,836
And I got this wave of anxiety.
405
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:53,195
It was like my body was trying
to be like, "Something is not right."
406
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:57,755
But I put it out of my mind
because when we talk, it's like,
407
00:29:57,839 --> 00:30:01,356
"I miss you so much, you should
move to LA, be my girlfriend."
408
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,596
He needed me. And it felt nice.
409
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,916
And so we saw each
other about a week later.
410
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:15,396
He is, like, giving me quality time,
and constant communication, and PDA.
411
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,799
You just feel so loved.
412
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,515
Together, it felt good. But
when we were apart, I had this...
413
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:25,195
pit in my stomach.
414
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:27,876
We didn’t have say if
where we were exclusive,
415
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,356
but we have these talks
416
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,275
where I'm not supposed to
be with anybody, just him.
417
00:30:32,359 --> 00:30:33,876
He wants control of me,
418
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,636
and I didn’t have the capacity
to think about another soul
419
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,435
because he is sending me a
thousand texts and a hundred calls.
420
00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:45,000
I wasn’t going on dates.
That is how he wanted it.
421
00:30:46,319 --> 00:30:50,675
Actress Rumer Willis was spotted
on a date with Armie Hammer.
422
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:53,356
The couple were
photographed walking around LA.
423
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,195
According to an insider, he’s
not looking for a relationship.
424
00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:00,319
And they denied claims that
he is currently dating anyone.
425
00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:08,755
The thing with Rumer
happened, and...
426
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:12,715
he said it didn’t mean anything,
427
00:31:12,799 --> 00:31:15,836
but I remember seeing
428
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,916
the way his hand was around her.
429
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,116
He’s very aggressive
with his hands.
430
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,156
He always wanted to be hand on me,
hand on my arm, hugging me, always.
431
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,636
But the way he was touching
her made me feel even smaller.
432
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,916
And I felt betrayed,
433
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,916
so I tried to end it.
434
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:46,079
I was supposed to come
back to LA in September.
435
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:54,836
By this time, he had moved
into this teeny, tiny pool house.
436
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,475
I go to the teeny, tiny pool house,
and I’m like, "I'm going to end it."
437
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:04,876
I was like, "You're hurting
me. I can't do this anymore."
438
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:09,799
And he said, "No, you're gonna have
to block me and do all these things."
439
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,559
I leave, we're both crying.
440
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,556
The next day, I go to my
friend’s in Beverly Hills.
441
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:44,675
We were on a walk, and he showed up
on his scooter where we were walking.
442
00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:47,359
He had my location
on his phone, and...
443
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,995
And I fell right back into
it. I thought it was romantic.
444
00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:54,675
"He's fighting for me."
445
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:58,359
And instead of going back to
Dallas, we went on another road trip.
446
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,556
When you really care for
somebody, it's crazy what your mind
447
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,559
is willing to look
past or justify.
448
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:17,035
But then there are these
things that keep happening that...
449
00:33:17,119 --> 00:33:22,920
I would have hand marks
that would stay on my body.
450
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,035
I think Armie took that picture.
451
00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:33,195
He bites hard, and he tells you to
wear them like a badge of honor.
452
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:38,195
Almost like he convinced me
I'm lucky to have it. It’s, like...
453
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:40,675
As fucked up as that sounds,
454
00:33:40,759 --> 00:33:43,475
at that time, I was
interpreting that as love.
455
00:33:43,559 --> 00:33:46,515
Looking at it now makes me sick.
456
00:33:46,599 --> 00:33:51,836
And he pushes your
boundaries a little bit at a time.
457
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:57,440
And the tone of the next trip just
felt different from the beginning.
458
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,796
This time, when he picked me up,
459
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:12,119
I saw a brown bag
and it had ropes in it.
460
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,760
We drove through Sedona.
461
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,760
We get to this hotel.
462
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:28,236
We have dinner.
463
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:33,155
He has this gin vermouth.
Like, he orders four of these.
464
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,716
I've had one margarita.
465
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,196
And it’s like we're
not getting along.
466
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,435
He's in a weird mood. Nothing
about the moment felt good.
467
00:34:44,519 --> 00:34:48,320
And then he mentions the ropes.
My heart dropped in my stomach.
468
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:56,716
He told me he's only ever tied
up mannequins, never people.
469
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:01,995
He wants to share this with
me, his fantasy, this experience.
470
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:05,400
Something new that he's
never tried with anybody.
471
00:35:10,159 --> 00:35:13,475
I was like, "I’m not in the
mood, I don’t feel well."
472
00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:17,236
And he just acted
mad, would look away.
473
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,719
I just was like, "How
do I get out of this?"
474
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,876
Then that night, he
was drunk. I was not.
475
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,676
And...
476
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,756
I didn’t say no.
477
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,280
I said, "I didn't feel good." I
said everything except no.
478
00:35:50,039 --> 00:35:56,356
So he puts on
this creepy playlist,
479
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,119
and...
480
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,280
Just like...
481
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:10,075
Like... It's... Like, the ropes
were around your neck,
482
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:14,440
your wrists, your ankles
behind your back. It’s like...
483
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:20,515
I mean, had bruises.
I hated it. It’s like...
484
00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:27,155
I understand if this is your fantasy
or your thing, more power to you.
485
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,595
But this was not. I
didn't like it. And it’s like...
486
00:36:31,679 --> 00:36:34,796
It didn't feel safe or, like...
487
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,995
I didn't feel,
like, loved, or...
488
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:42,236
It was just horrible. And
you're completely immobilized.
489
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,595
And it's like... There’s
something about trauma...
490
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:50,196
while you're immobilized
and can't move.
491
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,756
There's that fight or flight,
you can't do either, you're stuck.
492
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,435
I'm just closing my
eyes until it ended.
493
00:36:58,519 --> 00:37:02,955
And then he just went to
sleep like it was nothing.
494
00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:04,840
Can we take a break?
495
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:13,716
I almost didn't want to
make it real by writing it down.
496
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,236
But...
497
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,239
After that night, this is
what I took away from it.
498
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:26,916
"Armie wanted total control of
me and absolute compliance,
499
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,075
destroying any sense
of bodily autonomy.
500
00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:33,360
His ultimate fantasy."
501
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:40,555
That scenario in Sedona, I
really started to kind of unravel.
502
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:42,676
It didn’t sit well with me,
503
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,796
but then it's followed up with
him pulling me even closer
504
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,396
and being like, "I want
you to meet my mom,"
505
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,196
which is huge to me.
506
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:57,435
I think that’s a really big
deal. It felt like, "Okay."
507
00:37:57,519 --> 00:38:01,519
You know I’m just clinging to
little things to make this okay.
508
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,555
The situation with the ropes was
three days before I met his mom.
509
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:11,836
At that point, it was like a
Band-Aid on a bullet wound.
510
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,155
There was just like,
too much had happened.
511
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,599
We broke up two days
after meeting his mom.
512
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,276
I knew something about him
would come up in the future
513
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,796
because I know how careless
he is. I know how he texts
514
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:39,280
and he just leaves trails of
all this madness everywhere.
515
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,155
I woke up on the second
week of January, I got my coffee,
516
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,916
I sat down, and I started opening
up Twitter and combing through.
517
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,639
{\an8}My name is Candice Cronkhite,
and my IG handle is bbfbravo.
518
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,396
{\an8}I have always been
interested in pop culture.
519
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,075
I like deep diving in
people’s backgrounds
520
00:39:21,159 --> 00:39:22,676
why they are how they are,
521
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,396
and curating things that the
public may not know about a person.
522
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,916
I passed by a screenshot
of a DM with the headline,
523
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,320
"Armie Hammer's
ex-girlfriend is leaking his DMs."
524
00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:46,876
All of these screengrabs
pulled on Twitter were coming
525
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,360
from an anonymous
account called House of Effie.
526
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,800
When I opened up that
first text, it was shocking.
527
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,276
The content you're reading,
you’re like, "This is kinky,"
528
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,955
to progressively getting
darker and darker.
529
00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:21,039
Like, "This is shocking,"
to, "This is disturbing."
530
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:28,155
After a couple of text
messages, I would see this one
531
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,075
posted by House of Effie.
532
00:40:31,159 --> 00:40:34,716
"You were the most intense and
extreme version that I've ever had.
533
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,435
Raping you on your floor
with a knife against you.
534
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,515
Everything else seemed boring.
535
00:40:40,599 --> 00:40:43,316
You crying and screaming,
me standing over you.
536
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,995
I felt like a god.
537
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:48,440
I've never felt such
power or intensity."
538
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:55,676
There are some kinky things
or things you are unfamiliar with.
539
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,435
But the idea that somebody
gets off on raping somebody,
540
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:05,955
and that is what they're
pretending to do, it’s...
541
00:41:06,039 --> 00:41:10,840
I can't. It's just really sick.
542
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,276
And so I couldn't stop.
543
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,475
I had to do a story, because I
could tell that this was going to be big.
544
00:41:21,559 --> 00:41:24,555
Armie Hammer has been in
hot water over leaked texts.
545
00:41:24,639 --> 00:41:27,756
Due to community guidelines,
I can't say what it’s about,
546
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,756
you can head over to my IG
highlights to see for yourself.
547
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,716
Sadly, I saw people laugh it off
548
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,876
and not believe House of Effie
549
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,920
and give it the
attention it deserves.
550
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,676
In January, I see a message
from the DeuxMoi account.
551
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:55,676
It’s a gossip account.
552
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,196
She knew that Armie and I had
been together in a relationship,
553
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,236
because my name had
already been leaked,
554
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,880
and so DeuxMoi
would talk about it.
555
00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:11,515
The DeuxMoi account was
posting these screenshots
556
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:13,916
from an account
called House of Effie.
557
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,480
And they were really
sexually violent messages.
558
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:22,196
So she messaged me.
559
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,035
"Is this true?"
560
00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:27,916
I know how this man
speaks. I could write it.
561
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,676
I've seen it a million times.
562
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:33,440
I know the language he
uses, punctuation he uses.
563
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,519
He always used
the word "kitten."
564
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:45,035
He'd be like, "Hi, my little
kitten." That was very common.
565
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:48,396
The messages that
House of Effie was showing,
566
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,155
he said this exact
same word to me.
567
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,039
I was like, "That's
100 percent Armie."
568
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:11,239
At that point, I wanted to validate
what House of Effie was saying.
569
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:30,276
The next morning,
my life just blew up.
570
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,435
Armie Hammer’s ex-girlfriend
Courtney Vucekovich...
571
00:43:33,519 --> 00:43:36,916
Vucekovich has come forward
with claims against her ex.
572
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:42,075
Once Courtney was willing to go
on the record, this story blew open.
573
00:43:42,159 --> 00:43:47,475
It was about abuse, and
power, and gaslighting.
574
00:43:47,559 --> 00:43:51,796
He said things like he wanted
to barbecue and eat her.
575
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,356
What is happening
with Armie Hammer?
576
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,475
Disturbing and racy messages
allegedly sent to women
577
00:43:57,559 --> 00:44:00,955
by the actor Armie Hammer
are trending on Twitter.
578
00:44:01,039 --> 00:44:04,796
Shocking DMs allegedly sent from
Armie Hammer’s public accounts
579
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,356
are going viral on social media.
580
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,396
His sexually graphic texts
and DMs of dominating,
581
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,435
BDSM, and even
cannibalism began trending.
582
00:44:15,519 --> 00:44:19,800
This specific one that she
posted really shocked people.
583
00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:24,719
He said, "I'm 100
percent a cannibal."
584
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:31,639
He said, "It feels weird saying it."
I can picture him saying it vividly.
585
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,280
And then he said that he shot
a deer and then ate its heart.
586
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:54,075
{\an8}There's this whole darker underbelly
that starts getting you sicker.
587
00:44:54,159 --> 00:44:57,555
{\an8}He's talking about
wanting to eat flesh.
588
00:44:57,639 --> 00:45:01,360
Really, really horrific
things and imagery.
589
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,559
Where does this end?
590
00:45:09,599 --> 00:45:12,995
At this point, people were
running with the cannibalism.
591
00:45:13,079 --> 00:45:15,316
I'm loco, Four Loko
Mad like Hannibal
592
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,920
But not like Armie Hammer
That dude’s a cannibal
593
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:24,196
Nobody cared about anything
except the word "cannibal."
594
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,396
Pretending like
it was all a joke.
595
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,599
It didn't sit well with me,
because it wasn't a joke.
596
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:34,756
Now it's entertainment.
597
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:40,515
Now we're like... We’re leaned
in, waiting to see how dark this is.
598
00:45:40,599 --> 00:45:45,155
While the DMs remain unverified,
the stories have kept coming in.
599
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,555
Once Courtney came forward,
other women started coming forward.
600
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:53,836
One of them was
the writer Jessica.
601
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,316
She said, if anyone's questioning
whether these DMs are real,
602
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,599
I'm here to tell
you that they are.
603
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,435
Paige Lorenze was another
woman involved with Armie Hammer.
604
00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:09,716
She told her whole story,
and she did not hold back.
605
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,916
He kind of took me under his wing,
and he really was so all-consuming.
606
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,676
He made me feel like
it was a safe space,
607
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,955
like this was normal, he made
me feel as this was fun and sexy.
608
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:25,716
But I think he used BDSM
as a smokescreen ultimately
609
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:31,635
to hurt women and inflict
pain, which is the scariest part.
610
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,155
Hollywood is a very
business-oriented industry.
611
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,075
And now after #MeToo
happened and Time's Up,
612
00:46:39,159 --> 00:46:41,716
nobody is taking a
chance on anybody.
613
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,756
Armie Hammer has been dropped
from the film Shotgun Wedding
614
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,796
which he was due to be
starring in with Jennifer Lopez.
615
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,955
Armie said in a statement, "In
light of the attacks against me,
616
00:46:53,039 --> 00:46:55,635
I cannot, in good
conscience, leave my children
617
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,396
for four months to shoot."
618
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,595
As allegations start to come
out that seem to have substance,
619
00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:04,075
they're dropping
you like a hot potato.
620
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:08,115
WME immediately
dropped Armie Hammer.
621
00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:11,196
Armie Hammer has
been fighting for his career
622
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,440
after being plagued by
a social media scandal.
623
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:26,196
It was always, "What will Armie
do? He lost this movie deal."
624
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,475
Nobody was talking
about the victims.
625
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:31,719
I just felt like I couldn’t
leave this story alone.
626
00:47:34,079 --> 00:47:36,435
I wanted to figure
out more about him,
627
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:39,475
wondering what different
things has he dropped
628
00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:41,320
that we have all been missing.
629
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,676
The first thing I
saw was an interview
630
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,716
where he was talking about
tying a rope within 30 seconds.
631
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,876
People get thrilled when
you pull out rope at a party.
632
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,676
And it was like, "That's weird."
633
00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:01,196
You look through the Twitter, at
who he's following on Instagram.
634
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:06,316
He followed a lot of Shibari accounts
which is a form of Japanese bondage,
635
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,236
a lot of women in
suggestive poses.
636
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:14,756
And then there was
an article on Playboy.
637
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,716
Armie Hammer, in Playboy,
said he likes rough sex,
638
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,276
he likes to pull hair,
maybe a bit of choking,
639
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,719
but he would never do it to his wife
because he respects her too much.
640
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,756
I found more DMs that
were showing more texts,
641
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,435
and more and more
and more content
642
00:48:32,519 --> 00:48:36,836
relating to him being
involved in the BDSM world.
643
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,480
I was just confused about it
beyond Fifty Shades of Grey.
644
00:48:42,199 --> 00:48:46,236
I found out that if you set
these predetermined boundaries
645
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:50,400
and they're crossed over and
over again, that is a problem.
646
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,876
The more I researched, the
more I’ve found what he did
647
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,435
are actually not BDSM,
but he is calling them BDSM.
648
00:49:05,519 --> 00:49:11,239
But it's actually unsafe behavior
that would normally be criminal.
649
00:49:13,639 --> 00:49:17,916
When I looked into it, you
could tell this was not BDSM.
650
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,676
This was getting darker.
651
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,559
This looked like abuse.
652
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:29,955
And then Effie of Instagram
account House of Effie came forward.
653
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:33,236
She had hired famed
attorney Gloria Allred
654
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,876
who's known for
advocating for women.
655
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:40,515
Effie is 24 years old,
and she lives in Europe.
656
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:45,396
She had a romantic and an intimate
relationship with Armie Hammer,
657
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:50,756
on and off, between
2016 to 2020.
658
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,840
Effie issued a statement that
was an absolute bombshell.
659
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,995
I'm Attorney Gloria Allred.
660
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:05,316
I'm a women's rights
attorney in Los Angeles.
661
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,716
I’m a partner in the law firm.
662
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,716
I deal with many victims
of rape, sexual assault,
663
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,079
and sexual harassment.
664
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,716
I do represent Effie.
665
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,595
{\an8}Victims need to have support
if they're going to come forward
666
00:50:26,679 --> 00:50:30,155
{\an8}against a rich,
powerful, famous figure.
667
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,115
They shouldn't
have to do it alone.
668
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:37,555
Doing it alone is
dangerous, it's frightening.
669
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:40,039
This is not for
the faint of heart.
670
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:49,920
I met Armie Hammer on Facebook
in 2016 when I was 20 years old.
671
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,356
The relationship
progressed rapidly,
672
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,276
and the emotions from both
sides became really intense.
673
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,075
He would often test
my devotion to him.
674
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:02,955
Finally removing and
crossing my boundaries
675
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:07,075
as he became
increasingly more violent.
676
00:51:07,159 --> 00:51:12,079
He abused me mentally,
emotionally and sexually.
677
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,756
How can you see somebody
breaking down like that
678
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,480
and not feel for it? And,
oh, it was hard to watch.
679
00:51:31,639 --> 00:51:37,595
On April 24th, 2017,
Armie Hammer...
680
00:51:37,679 --> 00:51:43,236
violently raped me for over
four hours in Los Angeles...
681
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,276
during which he repeatedly
slammed my head against the wall,
682
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,035
bruising my face.
683
00:51:50,119 --> 00:51:54,480
During those four hours, I tried to
get away, but he wouldn’t let me.
684
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,876
The way that she was speaking
through her story, through tears,
685
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,356
and her conviction about
what she had been through,
686
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,836
I just thought,
every woman thinks,
687
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:14,075
"Oh, God, that could have been
me, and it’s been close to being me."
688
00:52:14,159 --> 00:52:16,475
And in other situations,
"It has been me."
689
00:52:16,559 --> 00:52:20,316
So I was really grateful...
690
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,760
for what she had done, and
her bravery of coming forward.
691
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,916
She came forward
and told everything.
692
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,035
He also committed other
acts of violence against me,
693
00:52:32,119 --> 00:52:34,239
to which I did not consent.
694
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,316
It launched a police
investigation within the LAPD
695
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,955
The actor Armie Hammer has
been confirmed as the suspect
696
00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:53,115
in an alleged sexual assault case by
the Los Angeles Police Department.
697
00:52:53,199 --> 00:52:57,075
Right now, Armie's being represented
by Andrew Brettler, who's known
698
00:52:57,159 --> 00:53:01,916
for his defense of people accused
of sexual abuse or sexual misconduct.
699
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,236
And that seemed a
very strategic move.
700
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,716
And in a statement,
701
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,796
vehemently denied any
wrongdoing on behalf of his client.
702
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,276
I know his attorney well.
703
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:18,435
We've had many
cases against that firm.
704
00:53:18,519 --> 00:53:21,955
And I have said many years
ago, and it's still true today,
705
00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:25,876
that firm represents
Hollywood bad boys,
706
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,440
and I represent the
women they hurt.
707
00:53:32,119 --> 00:53:38,119
Even in BDSM relationships,
consent is still at the heart of it.
708
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:53,196
It doesn't mean that
anyone can do anything
709
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,356
to anyone during a
sexual relationship.
710
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,876
If she withdraws her
consent and he continues,
711
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:05,196
that's a crime. Simple as that.
712
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:10,079
Kinky is not against
the law, rape is.
713
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:20,276
I do think a lot of women and men
can relate to engaging with somebody
714
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:25,555
who presented themselves in
an almost too-good-to-be-true way
715
00:54:25,639 --> 00:54:31,115
that was just a manipulation
tactic that led to really bad behavior.
716
00:54:31,199 --> 00:54:36,515
My name is Lauren Skae. I go
by TheZenBlonde on social media.
717
00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:39,475
Armie’s lawyers call
the claims outrageous
718
00:54:39,559 --> 00:54:42,396
and said that all of his
encounters were consensual.
719
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,955
I saw the Hammer case
unfolding, and in hearing the stories,
720
00:54:46,039 --> 00:54:50,876
I wanted to amplify them to
push them towards justice.
721
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,236
I had many tips, and it
wasn't just tips about Armie.
722
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,236
It was tips about the whole family.
Armie is not only a famous actor
723
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,075
but a famous actor whose
family is an institution.
724
00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:04,276
And then eventually, my
friend just tipped me off
725
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,595
that the Hammer family was crazy,
and that there were books about it.
726
00:55:08,679 --> 00:55:13,316
Casey Hammer is Armie Hammer's
aunt. I found Casey's book on Audible,
727
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,995
so I downloaded it and
started listening to it.
728
00:55:17,079 --> 00:55:21,356
And literally, I could not
believe what I was hearing.
729
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,555
That is when I understood the
red down her front was blood.
730
00:55:25,639 --> 00:55:28,716
She was screaming
for my father to stop.
731
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,196
I could see pain and fear
shooting out from her eyes.
732
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,716
I heard her voice in
my head, "Run, run!"
733
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,719
I was paralyzed with fear.
734
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,995
I was so infuriated by the book.
For me, just observing it from afar,
735
00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:49,676
it seemed like it was a
multi-generational trend
736
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,836
that very wealthy,
privileged men
737
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,916
got away with different bad
things throughout these generations.
738
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,555
I’m on Google and, "I can’t be
the one that tied this together."
739
00:56:03,639 --> 00:56:06,756
This has to be something
known. I’m late to the story."
740
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:11,236
And realizing that nobody
knows this and then feeling like
741
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:12,836
I need to put this out,
742
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,039
this needs to be
part of the narrative.
743
00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:18,756
I have a new development.
744
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,356
His aunt wrote a
book about their family.
745
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,595
The stuff didn’t
start with Armie.
746
00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:27,035
He is the great-grandson of
Armand Hammer, an oil tycoon,
747
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:30,595
whose son, Julian, who would be
Armie’s grandfather, was insane.
748
00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:33,316
He beat the living
daylights out of his wife.
749
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:38,876
I posted everything in succession
as I was still listening to the book.
750
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,555
The first video went viral,
751
00:56:40,639 --> 00:56:42,916
and everyone jumped
to the videos after.
752
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,316
And some people were
literally watching them live.
753
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,635
She found photos of her
dad, again Armie’s grandfather,
754
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,555
watching as one of the housekeepers
performed a sexual act on a man.
755
00:56:53,639 --> 00:56:58,316
I have to say, like, things
exploded on TikTok really quickly.
756
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,475
It grew overnight.
757
00:57:01,559 --> 00:57:05,155
When it went viral, I was like,
"Oh, no. This is a real human.
758
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,639
I should have maybe alerted
her that I was doing this?"
759
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:17,475
Someone texted me and said,
"Someone’s blowing you up on TikTok."
760
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:21,555
I remember pulling up that video,
and I was watching comments
761
00:57:21,639 --> 00:57:24,236
on the screen, things like,
762
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,316
"Are you sure it’s his aunt?
Did anybody do a DNA test?"
763
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,756
I mean, it makes sense.
764
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,595
I had been erased
from the family.
765
00:57:33,679 --> 00:57:36,995
She actually reposted
me on Instagram.
766
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:39,756
"I don’t know who
you are, but thank you."
767
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:45,035
Part of me was kind of pleased
because the world was finding out.
768
00:57:45,119 --> 00:57:48,876
And the other part of me
was, "Oh, my God, I’m dead.
769
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,119
My brother’s going
to fucking kill me."
770
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:59,475
What Armie is experiencing
came from, I'm convinced,
771
00:57:59,559 --> 00:58:02,075
maybe even further
back than my grandfather.
772
00:58:02,159 --> 00:58:05,155
Because you just
don't wake up...
773
00:58:05,239 --> 00:58:11,676
and become this
dark controller, abuser.
774
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,039
There has to be a
seed that's planted.
775
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,716
My grandfather
built an oil empire.
776
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,955
He had politicians
in his back pocket.
777
00:58:23,039 --> 00:58:24,836
He never took no for an answer.
778
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,035
His life was all about secrets.
779
00:58:28,119 --> 00:58:31,035
My father had loaded
guns all over the house.
780
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:35,039
He used to shoot at
me. It was terrifying.
781
00:58:36,239 --> 00:58:39,995
That’s the sign of a true
monster. You can look in the mirror
782
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:43,396
and not see any fault or that
you're doing anything wrong.
783
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,676
And that's how deep
it goes with my brother.
784
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:51,515
And that's why he's so scary,
because he has no conscience.
785
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:53,836
Now it's Armie.
786
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,995
Every generation of my family
has been involved in dark misdeeds,
787
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:01,396
and it just gets worse
and worse and worse.
788
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,400
There's so much beneath the
surface now it's finally coming to light.
789
00:59:07,679 --> 00:59:10,876
My name is Casey Hammer,
and I’m about to reveal
790
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,599
the dark, twisted secrets
of the Hammer family.
791
00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:33,000
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