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Columbia police!
Search warrant!
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Columbia police!
Search warrant!
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Kick it open!
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Get to the door! Go, go, go!
Get to the door!
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Police Department!
Don't move!
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Police Department!
Don't move!
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Police Department!
Don't move!
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O.S. Bang.
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Police Department!
Don't move!
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Move past us! Move past!
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Come on, guys, you're fine.
You're fine.
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Don't move!
Do you understand?
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Put your hands behind
your back! Do it now!
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Behind your back!
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Just shoot me!
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Did you shoot my dog?
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Did you shoot
my fucking dog?
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Oh my God!
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What the fuck did you
do that for?
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If you cannot afford
to hire a lawyer,
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one will be appointed
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to represent you and answer
any questions you wish.
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You can decide at anytime
to exercise these rights,
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not to answer any questions
or make any statements.
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Do you understand?
Do you understand?
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We'll take that as a yes.
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¶
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We can't live in a society
which is both free
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and drug-free. You
can't have 'em both.
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The whole process of moving
from one state of mind
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being persuaded to another by
seeing the truth
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is one of actually
feeling an identification
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that resonates and has
a feeling of wholeness
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and coherence to it. It
makes chaos orderly.
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It's the mindset
that got us here
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and the journey
that we've taken.
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Fifty years of criminalization.
It came out of the whole idea
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that we don't have to care
for each other anymore.
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It's every man for himself.
We weren't always like that!
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The question is, can we go back
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to caring about each other?
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What are the nuances that
define a culture?
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Is it the way we
police ourselves?
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The way we take care
of our sick?
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How we govern?
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The way we share
information?
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77 years ago, marijuana became
prohibited in the United States.
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By 1961, its criminalization
reached global status.
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Today, we find the topic
of marijuana's legality
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penetrating all forms of media
and every level of politics.
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It is now the polarizing topic
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in an endless display
of public debates.
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The goal? To answer the
question that refuses to die:
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Should marijuana be legalized?
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But, ever so slowly, a second
question is starting to appear
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a question that seeks an
answer to whether marijuana
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prohibition itself has
gained characteristics
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that reveal a greater truth
about ourselves
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and the way our
society operates.
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Is this a bad idea? Is this a
downward spiral of our culture?
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A new study reveals
that smoking marijuana
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could increase your risk
for testicular cancer.
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So the research doesn't
bother you
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that smoking pot can
cause man boobs?
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Pot just makes you dumb.
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What's to keep somebody from
gettin' all potted-up on weed
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and then gittin' behind
the wheel?
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"Marijuana leads to breast
development in males,".
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Like all of these myths,
front page story!
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Those things have been coming
along one, after another.
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I should be impotent when I
smoke marijuana. Well I'm not!
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The thought process behind
demonizing something like
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marijuana is completely
out of ignorance.
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Where's the bodies?
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Where's the numbers?
Is there one?
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Because I have heard from
experts whose judgment
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I respect that they don't
know of any.
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The only way marijuana
can kill you is if you
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take 25lbs of it and you throw
it out of a CIA drug plane
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and it hits you in
the fuckin' head.
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That's how you die
from marijuana.
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There's that famous 911 call
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where those cops stole
pot from some kids,
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and then turned it into
pot brownies,
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and then ate the brownies
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and freaked the fuck out and
called the cops on themselves.
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It's beautiful 'cause they
thought they were dying,
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time is going by really slow,
they're fine.
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But everyone can agree anti-
marijuana ads in this country
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have gotten fuckin'
ridiculous.
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Like a girl will be melted on
the couch with no bones
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and she's like, 'I smoked pot
and now I don't have bones.'
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I associated a lot of these
people that were smokin' pot
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with poorly motivated
people who were failures.
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I had a prejudiced
perception of what marijuana
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actually did to a human being.
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Among the perceived
harms of marijuana,
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two seem to arise on a daily
basis more than any others.
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Two seem to be the
main reasons given
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for why marijuana must be kept
from the public. The first:
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There's the famous 'just one
spliff and you will go mental.'
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The more you mess
with cannabis,
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the more it can mess
with your mind.
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My first seven years as a
researcher were devoted
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to schizophrenia. I can tell
you, that is ridiculous.
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We looked at the
evidence-I think
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we must have gone through
about 2,000 papers
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and it doesn't cause
schizophrenia.
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Maybe there are some
individuals with schizophrenia
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in which the illness is brought
on perhaps a little earlier
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because they smoked cannabis.
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There often is what's called
a precipitating event.
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A precipitating event is
something like an important
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loss of a person,
a severe car accident...
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It certainly can be exacerbated
by a number of drugs.
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A bad alcohol trip can serve
as a precipitating event, too.
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The fact is schizophrenia
has a prevalence
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of about 1%...
the world around.
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Cannabis use... let's start with
the 60s, its gone up like that.
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So! You've introduced
this new thing:
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If it's schizophrenogenic
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we should see a significant
uptick in schizophrenia.
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We should see more people
with schizophrenia.
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Schizophrenia has stayed
just like that.
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In all of the epidemiologic
studies that I'm aware of,
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there is no uptick.
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So if marijuana causes
schizophrenia it was introduced
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now we should have
more schizophrenia.
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We don't see that.
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We would certainly see
some little rise in that
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given the numbers of people
who use this.
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You really do need to strip
this back and address this
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from a neutral platform
to understand that
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anything to do with mental
health is such a tenuous issue
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built upon different
contributing factors
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and by applying it all
to cannabis
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you are possibly
doing more harm
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because you are negating
all these other factors
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that certainly
play a part.
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For a lot of people, the impact
of life itself is overwhelming
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so they'll seek out
something to distract them
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whether it's drinkin'
cough syrup or takin' naps
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or jerking off or gambling.
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There's a lot of
things that people do
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to distract them from
the angst of being alive.
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It might not be for you, it
might make you paranoid;
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You might have smoked
some bad weed once
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and thought you were
having a heart attack.
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Cannabis is not
for everybody.
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Nobody should be
forced to use it.
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There's a lot of reasons why
marijuana might not be for you.
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But you shouldn't tell me
that it's not right for me.
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The most frequently-cited
perceived harm
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associated with marijuana
today is addiction.
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I mean, you do know
it's addictive
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highly addictive-right?
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Because I believe
it's addictive
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and it leads to more
serious drugs...
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But in order to understand
addiction in relation to marijuana
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one must first have an
understanding of the psychology
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behind addiction in
the first place.
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It's interesting to see, or to
ask, 'Who becomes addicted?'
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People can have sex without
being addicted to it,
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they can go shopping,
but some people
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become severely addicted to
all these pursuits.
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Is a pack of cards
addictive? Well, no.
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Or yes. Depending on
the individual.
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So, it's the same process no
matter what the addiction is.
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The only difference is
really is that
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the substance addict is
getting the dopamine from
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an outside substance,
where the behaviour addict
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is having it triggered from
the particular behaviour.
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If I speak to a group of 100
people or 1000 people and I ask
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how many of you have addiction
issues to any substance?
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A number of people put
their hands up, and I say.
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'What did it do for you?
Not 'what was bad about it'
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we already know that, but
what did it do for you?
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What was positive in your
experience with it?
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Well, 'it gave me a sense of
peace; It gave me pain relief.
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It made me feel
more connected...
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it made me more confident.
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I could speak now and
interact with people.
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In other words, the addict
is just after wanting to be
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a normal human being and the
real question is,
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what keeps them from having
those qualities in their lives
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and what happened to them?
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And so the addiction should
be seen, not as the problem
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although it is a problem,
but it's not the problem.
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It's the addict's attempt
to solve the problem
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in the first place.
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The Adverse Childhood
Experiences studies
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done in California...
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looked at conditions such as
physical, sexual,
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emotional abuse in the
child's life
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the loss of a parent to
death or a rancorous divorce
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or a parent being jailed or a
mental illness in the parent
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or an addiction of the parent,
or violence in the family
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and for each of these adverse
childhood experiences,
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the risk of addiction goes
up exponentially.
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By the time a male child had 6
of these adverse experiences
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his risk of having become
a substance-dependent
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injection-using addict
is 4600% greater
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than that of a male child
with no such experiences.
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Why is that?
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Its because that trauma shapes
their brain in such ways
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as to make the
addictive substances
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more appealing to
the individual.
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That trauma also gives that
person the pain
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that they will try to then
escape from or soothe
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through the addictive
behaviors.
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It's the social and
emotional environment
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that shapes the actual
biology of the brain
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so if you want to understand
someone's addiction,
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you have to look at what's
created pain in their lives.
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The person who
occasionally has a beer,
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occasionally
smokes marijuana,
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but generally has no
negative consequences;
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It does not impair
their health,
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it does not endanger
their lives,
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it does not impair their
personal relationships-
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you can't call those
people addicts,
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and you can't call
those behaviors addictive.
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So we have to make a
real distinction between
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the use of substances and
the addiction to substances.
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Which then leads us to the
"War on Drugs:"
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basically the War on Drugs is
being waged against people
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that were abused and
traumatized as children
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and have mental
health problems.
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There's enough punishment
in there-
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in the negative consequences
of the addiction
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that we don't have to add
punishment on to that.
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The number of deaths
around the world
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from cigarette consumption
is five-and-a-half million
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according to latest estimates.
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Annually, cigarettes kill as
many people as were killed
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in the Germans' anti-Jewish
genocidal campaign.
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So we have a holocaust
annually, owing to cigarettes.
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If you smoke more than
two packs a day,
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the risk for developing
lung cancer was twenty-fold.
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That's 2000%.
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Based on the largest
case-controlled study ever done,
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there was no evidence that
marijuana increased
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the risk of lung cancer.
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You've gotta have some
consistency: There's a million
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different drugs that are
sanctioned by the society
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that don't have that
happy ending-
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- that you take too much
and you're fucked.
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I've got a friend whose
auntie had to go to rehab for
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buying two boxes of Krispy
Kremes every day
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and eating them in the
woods so nobody found her.
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Based on that anecdote, let'smake Krispy Kremes illegal.
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I will fight any man, by the
way who suggests that.
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It's just like eating a
pound of salt and dying.
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Yeah, ya didn't use salt right
dude. You fucked up with salt.
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If you just threw some salt
on popcorn
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it's actually quite yummy, but
what'd you do, you stupid fuck?
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You ate a pound of salt
and you died.
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Doesn't mean we should
outlaw salt.
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Our society doesn't object to
people jumping out of airplanes
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at fifteen thousand feet
with parachutes.
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Occasionally those
parachutes break; People die.
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Our society doesn't object
to people climbing mountains.
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Occasionally people fall
off mountains and do harm
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to themselves, but it's not
illegal to climb a mountain.
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If I had to compare
marijuana to alcohol
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from the medical point of
view, if I asked the question,
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'which of these has more
potentially debilitating
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and harmful life threatening,
health-eroding effects?'
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There's no comparison,
there's no contest;
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Alcohol wins, hands down.
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The tune of 50000 plus per year
die from alcohol poisoning.
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They literally drink themselves
zero.
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Do we have a war on alcohol
and tobacco when alcohol
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is the drug that's involved
with more murders
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than any other drug on
planet earth?
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How do we view the
effect of beer?
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Holy shit!
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We are so dependent on it.
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If you have a social gathering
and there isn't booze there,
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people lose their minds!
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Let's go to
the pub
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when we talk about
commiserating:
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Let's go to the pub.
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I'm happy let's go to the pub!
My dog died let's go to the pub.
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It's wines-day Wednesday.
Best day of the week!
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Great job getting us drunk!
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We could all use a stiff drink.
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Fantastic! Margarita day.
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If you're not gonna drink it,
pass it around.
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How are you spending
New Year's Eve?
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I'm gonna get real drunk!
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Many years ago, we
did a poll in parliament
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and we asked them,
'is alcohol a drug?'
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And the majority of politicians
said alcohol was not a drug.
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And they say well, it's not a
drug because it's not illegal.
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And that gets to this
peculiar, dangerous concept
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that once something's illegal,
it must be dangerous,
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and when something's not
illegal, it must be safe.
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So it's interesting if we look
at the whole issue
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of illegal drugs in our
society you'll find that
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when the word 'drug' is used to
refer to those substances,
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another word is almost always
attached to it
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and that is, 'abuse.'
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"Drug abuse."
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What happens is that all illicit
drugs get lumped together.
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Caffeine is a drug,
alcohol is a drug.
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Tylenol is a drug,
Sudafed is a drug.
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Viagra is a drug. People,
when they think of drugs,
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...they think only of
illicit drugs.
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Theres a mass of disinformation
and that misinformation
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and disinformation confuses
the shit out of people
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when they're trying to form
their version of
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what's good and what's bad
in the world.
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If it's absurd to throw someone
in prison for drinking coffee
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or for drinking wine, then
it's equally absurd and wrong
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to throw someone in prison for
smoking cannabis.
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Nobody has ever overdosed on
cannabis. D'you know that?
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So what? They can't perform
daily functions;
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They're going to be
on my tax bill!
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The idea that one is OK and one
isn't just seemed to require
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something resembling
evidence before
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you could make that
statement definitively.
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One of the things I think is
important about marijuana use
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or alcohol use or anything is
that you're responsible with it
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and you could be
irresponsible with anything
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and you should weigh the risks
and the rewards.
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There's no moral middle ground.
Indifference is not an option.
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We want you to help us create
an outspoken intolerance
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for drug use.
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Is the rationale of protecting
people from themselves valid?
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The only people who are
responsible for protecting us
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from ourselves
are ourselves.
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If our society denies us the
opportunity to make mistakes,
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it's denying us a very
fundamental human right
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because mistakes are part of the
teaching process in this life.
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Tell another grown human
being ah, ah, ah! Nope!
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Nope! Nope! Not allowed that.
A grown man! No, not you!
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But I'm a grown up; I'm
an evolved human being.
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No! Just .Put. That. Down!
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If there's real harm in a
drug and your real objective
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is to persuade people that
they shouldn't harm themselves
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in that way, you don't need
laws that send them to prison-
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What you need is good infor-
mation that they'll believe.
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Just disseminate that infor-
mation and free independent
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sovereign adults will make
their own choices about
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either to
continue with that drug
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or not to continue with it,
but they have the facts.
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If a professional like you
cannot answer clearly
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that meth is more dangerous
than marijuana-
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which every kid on the streetknows, which every parent knows
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if you can't answer that,
maybe that's why we're failing
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to educate people
about the dangers
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I don't want kids
smoking marijuana.
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I agree with the chairman
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but if the Deputy Director
of the Office of Drug Policy
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can't answer that question,
how do you expect
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high school kids to take
you seriously?
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I empathize with parents of
teenaged kids; They can get lost.
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A kid sitting in school
stoned-you can't accept
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accept a position that says,
'oh, that's fine, no problem.'
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Yeah, that's a problem,
but the question is
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whether it's a criminal
problem. The question is
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whether it's a 'growing up'
kind of a problem.
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I want reasons more than
'you need to be afraid of
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some cop catching you, and locking
you up forever in a prison'
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to talk to my children about
how they relate
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to various temptations
in life.
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This country is held up as a
model around the world
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of dealing with cigarette
we brought it down.
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Why? By
educating people.
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It doesn't make sense to
punish people
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if what you're mainly worried
about is their welfare.
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Name something that gets
passed around.
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Chris?
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A joint!
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00:19:39,934 --> 00:19:41,033
A joint?
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Its the only thing
that came to mind...
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The moral question of druguse, you can set aside,
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because the drug use and
the drug abuse is here.
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We have a real fundamental
enjoyment of
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changing the way that this
thing operates and,
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for as long as that is true,
you have demand.
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You don't have to be
a capitalist,
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you don't have to
to be economist,
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but we all know:
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Where there is demand,
there is supply.
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A plant that's very easy to
grow suddenly becomes
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something that's worth
thousands and thousands
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and thousands of dollars a pound
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because you're compensating
the producers
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and the transporters for
the risk of going to jail
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or being arrested or being
shot or other things
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00:20:27,072 --> 00:20:30,039
that happen to people
involved in criminal activity.
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And with that profit
comes opportunity
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sometimes to the most
unlikely of people.
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I went to Oxford to
study nuclear physics
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and some post-graduate history
and philosophy of science,
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00:20:47,121 --> 00:20:51,356
but forsook the halls of academia
to become a dope smuggler.
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Quite early on, I
started smuggling cannabis
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from Europe to America. In those
days, in the very early 70's-
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there'd be a markup
of about 300%.
402
00:21:06,804 --> 00:21:09,671
British bands were beginning
to get very popular
403
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and they were visiting the
States with an awful lot
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00:21:11,908 --> 00:21:17,143
of equipment, so we used to
hide hashish in various speakers
405
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and amplifiers et cetera.
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00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:24,215
Pink Floyd, Emerson, Lake &
Palmer, Eric Clapton, Genesis.
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The bands didn't know;
It was just an arrangement
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I made with the road managers.
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Organizations I was involved
with; The Mafia, the Yakuza
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the I.R.A. and a few
cowboys from the C.I.A.,
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- but it wasn't under C.I.A.
- just a few cowboys
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who were doing things behind
the rest of the C.I.A's back.
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Consignments I did into
JFK in New York
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the deal was structured
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in such a way that one
couldn't cheat them
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even if one was daft enough
to try.
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The average load
would be about a ton.
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I had a huge number of aliases
during my smuggling career;
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At least 43 aliases, but it
was so much easier in those days
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to get a false passport.
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I remember, on one
occasion, applying
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to the driving license
center for a license
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in the name of Elvis Presley
of whom I'm a big fan
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and they actually issued it
because computers
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00:22:32,306 --> 00:22:37,041
didn't scream in the 50's!
Oh, Elvis Presley? Fine!
426
00:22:39,078 --> 00:22:43,880
The biggest shipment ever
that I did was 30 tons.
427
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The DEA say it was 50 tons, but
I know it was only 30 tons!
428
00:22:50,187 --> 00:22:53,154
The British had more or less
no you can't catch him.
429
00:22:53,156 --> 00:22:56,557
The Spanish had given up,
no, you can't catch him...
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00:22:57,059 --> 00:23:01,026
Americans said, oh, we'll catch
him - and they were right!
431
00:23:01,962 --> 00:23:06,330
It was a combined effort of
14 different countries'
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law enforcement spearheaded
by the DEA actually.
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00:23:11,369 --> 00:23:15,804
Cannabis was the only
drug I smuggled.
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I think largely because I
wasn't really tempted
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to do anything else; The demand
for cannabis wasn't met.
436
00:23:21,310 --> 00:23:23,276
If cannabis had been
legal, I would have
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00:23:23,278 --> 00:23:26,912
carried on being an
academic of some sort.
438
00:23:27,047 --> 00:23:31,282
I do miss smuggling; You
could never get that thrill
439
00:23:31,284 --> 00:23:35,986
that I had from crossing borders
from writing! You can't...
440
00:23:35,988 --> 00:23:37,921
I suppose if I thought I could
get away with it,
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I'd crank it up today and
go back to doing it!
442
00:23:41,059 --> 00:23:43,159
I mean I loved it.
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It's interesting when you
look at the amount of money
444
00:23:51,367 --> 00:23:53,200
that these drugs
are generating.
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Where does that money go?
And who's handling it?
446
00:23:56,905 --> 00:23:59,071
With the vast amounts
of money to be made,
447
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the potential for
a dark side
448
00:24:00,974 --> 00:24:03,107
of the underground market
begins to grow.
449
00:24:03,342 --> 00:24:05,976
With enough time and
enough money,
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it can rise to
inconceivable levels,
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and often, right under
our nose.
452
00:24:12,250 --> 00:24:14,950
What the drug war has
done to Mexico is horrific.
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The death toll alone in the
Mexican drug war
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under the Calderon
administration:
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It's more than the number of
Americans that were lost in Vietnam.
456
00:24:23,525 --> 00:24:29,195
Now we're up to 70,000
dead. Seventy thousand!
457
00:24:29,564 --> 00:24:31,430
The bloodshed follows a
mass killing
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00:24:31,432 --> 00:24:34,366
in the Mexican border city of
Nuevo Laredo last week
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where nine bodies were left
for the public to see
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and fourteen other bodies
were found mutilated.
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And this is happening
on our Southern border
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and yet very little
attention is paid to it.
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It is the United States that
sends the guns
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across the borders
to Mexico
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it is the United States that,
then in return for the guns
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imports the drugs.
467
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A lot of people think that those
seventy thousand dead
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are all gangsters shootin' it
out with each other.
469
00:25:04,124 --> 00:25:07,191
Not true. They're police
officers, they're children
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they're families, they're
mothers and fathers.
471
00:25:10,696 --> 00:25:13,430
You're raising your
kids with an education
472
00:25:13,432 --> 00:25:15,565
and your kids go off to a
nightclub some night
473
00:25:15,567 --> 00:25:17,300
and they never come home.
Why?
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Because kids have been kidnapped
at random and mutilated.
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Beyond the horrific death
toll, and the
476
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,407
horrific acts of violence,
and decapitations
477
00:25:25,409 --> 00:25:28,042
and bodies hanging from bridges,
the drug war has really
478
00:25:28,044 --> 00:25:32,312
led to a deterioration in the
infrastructures of society
479
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which means that virtually
every municipal police force
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in much of Mexico is corrupted
by one cartel or another.
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What does that mean?
That means
482
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,553
if you're a lower-middle
class Mexican and
483
00:25:40,555 --> 00:25:42,388
your house gets broken into,
who do you call?
484
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:45,524
You have nobody to go to, and
if you do call the police,
485
00:25:45,526 --> 00:25:48,026
they're just as likely
to tell the cartel
486
00:25:48,028 --> 00:25:50,628
hey this person's ratting on
you as they are to help you
487
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:52,563
and take a report, and
bring somebody to jail.
488
00:25:52,565 --> 00:25:54,531
So, if you murder somebody in
Mexico, you have less than
489
00:25:54,533 --> 00:25:57,267
a 5% chance of ever spending
a day in jail for that
490
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:59,569
and that is almost
entirely a product of
491
00:25:59,571 --> 00:26:02,705
what the drug war has done
to law enforcement,
492
00:26:02,707 --> 00:26:06,275
the judiciary and the
corrections systems in Mexico.
493
00:26:06,277 --> 00:26:10,245
The last thing a Mexican drug-
trafficking cartel would want
494
00:26:10,247 --> 00:26:13,114
would be for drugs to be
legalized in the United States
495
00:26:13,116 --> 00:26:16,450
because that would take away
their primary source of income.
496
00:26:16,452 --> 00:26:17,684
How do you kill a cartel
497
00:26:17,686 --> 00:26:19,719
and a street gang
organization in drugs?
498
00:26:19,721 --> 00:26:22,388
You take their source of
nutrition away.
499
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:24,156
Their source of nutrition is -
500
00:26:24,158 --> 00:26:26,758
money; Drug money.
You dry 'em up.
501
00:26:35,701 --> 00:26:37,600
The idea that you're gonna
somehow or another be able to
502
00:26:37,602 --> 00:26:39,568
be able to make marijuana
illegal and it's not going to
503
00:26:39,570 --> 00:26:41,403
have some of impact
on organized crime
504
00:26:41,405 --> 00:26:44,572
is so fuckin' dumb
it's childish!
505
00:26:44,574 --> 00:26:46,473
This prohibition allows
them to flourish
506
00:26:46,475 --> 00:26:48,208
I mean it did
with alcohol.
507
00:26:48,210 --> 00:26:51,444
When prohibition was going on
and the mafia and Al Capone
508
00:26:51,446 --> 00:26:53,646
and all them motherfuckers
was in control,
509
00:26:53,648 --> 00:26:55,648
they ran that shit!
510
00:26:55,650 --> 00:26:58,317
The American people soon
came to understand
511
00:26:58,319 --> 00:27:02,320
that prohibition of
alcohol brought greater harm
512
00:27:02,322 --> 00:27:04,689
than the abuse of alcohol.
513
00:27:04,691 --> 00:27:06,824
Declaring prohibition on the
marijuana laws
514
00:27:06,826 --> 00:27:08,725
makes everything
more dangerous
515
00:27:08,727 --> 00:27:14,129
370 billion dollars a year go
into the underworld's pockets
516
00:27:14,131 --> 00:27:18,365
and bad people with that kind of
money can do horrendous things...
517
00:27:19,668 --> 00:27:21,734
If marijuana prohibition
isn't achieving
518
00:27:21,736 --> 00:27:23,535
the goals we think it should,
519
00:27:24,170 --> 00:27:27,237
what has caused it to be
pursued the way it has?
520
00:27:27,239 --> 00:27:30,306
What are the elements that
keep it propped up...
521
00:27:30,308 --> 00:27:32,374
and where did it
all start?
522
00:27:33,410 --> 00:27:36,077
While most fingers might
point to the year 1937
523
00:27:36,079 --> 00:27:39,747
when marijuana was first outlawed
by a tax stamp required for hemp,
524
00:27:39,749 --> 00:27:43,584
let's fast-forward 34 years
to 1971.
525
00:27:43,586 --> 00:27:46,286
That was the year the
public first heard this:
526
00:27:46,288 --> 00:27:48,821
Ladies and gentlemen, I would
like to summarize for you
527
00:27:48,823 --> 00:27:52,424
the meeting that I have just
had with bipartisan leaders.
528
00:27:52,426 --> 00:27:56,827
America's public enemy number
one, in the United States,
529
00:27:56,829 --> 00:27:58,395
is drug abuse.
530
00:27:59,798 --> 00:28:03,199
Attorney General Kliendienst
for Nixon was quoted thereafter
531
00:28:03,201 --> 00:28:05,701
and he was sorrowful that he
had been involved in this.
532
00:28:05,703 --> 00:28:07,869
He said that
they knew-
533
00:28:07,871 --> 00:28:09,804
in the Nixon administration-
534
00:28:09,806 --> 00:28:13,607
that drug treatment works
and incarceration does not,
535
00:28:13,609 --> 00:28:17,811
but the enormous political
benefit by declaring
536
00:28:17,813 --> 00:28:20,446
a war on drugs, that
can't really fight back.
537
00:28:20,448 --> 00:28:23,482
He said they chose
the incarceration route
538
00:28:23,484 --> 00:28:27,219
for political reasons and then
were absolutely overwhelmed at
539
00:28:27,221 --> 00:28:31,489
positive political benefits
they received for doing that.
540
00:28:31,491 --> 00:28:33,424
There's actual
documentation that shows
541
00:28:33,426 --> 00:28:37,161
the United States government
under Nixon was actively writing
542
00:28:37,163 --> 00:28:40,831
to universities and saying 'pull
your information of cannabis,
543
00:28:40,833 --> 00:28:43,400
hemp and marijuana out
of your libraries.'
544
00:28:43,802 --> 00:28:45,334
purge it.
545
00:28:46,437 --> 00:28:51,272
So it took them from 1972,
'71... '72, to the late 1970's
546
00:28:51,274 --> 00:28:54,675
to create this myth that
marijuana would
547
00:28:54,677 --> 00:28:57,444
lead to using harder
substances.
548
00:28:57,446 --> 00:28:59,412
Once that myth was established
549
00:29:00,581 --> 00:29:02,180
then the numbers exploded
550
00:29:02,182 --> 00:29:05,449
and you could go to Congress
and get money.
551
00:29:05,451 --> 00:29:08,552
I am glad that, in this
administration we have increased
552
00:29:08,554 --> 00:29:11,454
the amount of money for
handling the problem
553
00:29:11,456 --> 00:29:14,190
of dangerous drugs
seven-fold.
554
00:29:14,192 --> 00:29:16,892
It will be 600 million dollars
this year.
555
00:29:16,894 --> 00:29:20,562
This is one area where we
cannot have budget cuts
556
00:29:20,564 --> 00:29:24,198
because we must wage what I
have called total war
557
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,668
against public enemy number
one in the United States:
558
00:29:27,670 --> 00:29:29,903
The problem of
dangerous drugs.
559
00:29:29,905 --> 00:29:34,440
Most law enforcement agencies,
before the 1970s,
560
00:29:34,442 --> 00:29:37,176
had very small narcotic
units because
561
00:29:37,178 --> 00:29:39,311
narcotics wasn't seen as
a big problem.
562
00:29:39,313 --> 00:29:44,816
By the end of the decade, the
narcotic units had exploded;
563
00:29:44,818 --> 00:29:46,751
Federal money came in...
564
00:29:47,587 --> 00:29:50,220
and then...
Ronald Reagan came.
565
00:29:50,655 --> 00:29:54,323
Tonight I can report to you
that we've made much progress.
566
00:29:54,325 --> 00:29:56,958
37 federal agencies
are working together
567
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,227
in a vigorous national effort
and, by next year,
568
00:30:00,229 --> 00:30:03,230
our spending for drug law
enforcement will have
569
00:30:03,232 --> 00:30:05,865
more than tripled from
it's 1981 levels.
570
00:30:05,867 --> 00:30:09,568
Whenever we hear the word
'war' on anything,
571
00:30:09,570 --> 00:30:11,570
I think it should alert
our antenna
572
00:30:11,572 --> 00:30:14,706
that a mind-management game
is going on.
573
00:30:14,708 --> 00:30:17,375
What is meant by the war on drugs?
That's a very good question.
574
00:30:17,377 --> 00:30:19,710
How can you have a war on
a noun? It's a bit like...
575
00:30:19,712 --> 00:30:23,447
again, the war on terror:
It's a war on a concept.
576
00:30:23,449 --> 00:30:28,451
We humans are very
motivated by war.
577
00:30:28,453 --> 00:30:30,686
We are extremely motivated by
578
00:30:30,688 --> 00:30:33,655
a metaphor of violent
confrontation.
579
00:30:33,657 --> 00:30:36,958
It goes all the way back to
the very first foremothers of
580
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,962
bacteria
3.85 billion years ago.
581
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:45,431
Bacteria are incredibly
social - they live in armies-
582
00:30:45,433 --> 00:30:49,001
they live in armies of seven
trillion and they are
583
00:30:49,003 --> 00:30:51,370
constantly communicating
with each other,
584
00:30:51,372 --> 00:30:53,372
they are constantly
exchanging data;
585
00:30:53,374 --> 00:30:55,574
It's a little information
processing network,
586
00:30:55,576 --> 00:30:57,375
but what happens...
587
00:30:57,377 --> 00:31:00,478
when two, three, four
or seven colonies
588
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,447
of bacteria discover all the
same food source?
589
00:31:03,449 --> 00:31:05,982
They make "war."
590
00:31:05,984 --> 00:31:09,552
What motivates ants? They go
about doing their daily business
591
00:31:09,554 --> 00:31:12,588
all of the time, but when an
alarm pheromone hits
592
00:31:12,590 --> 00:31:16,391
that indicates there's been an
invasion from outside the colony
593
00:31:16,393 --> 00:31:17,658
wham-o!
594
00:31:17,660 --> 00:31:20,293
Everybody drops what
they're doing;
595
00:31:20,295 --> 00:31:23,829
Everybody rushes to the site of
the breach where the odor
596
00:31:23,831 --> 00:31:25,997
is coming from.
597
00:31:25,999 --> 00:31:28,566
I mean, we humans, we're the
children of bacteria;
598
00:31:28,568 --> 00:31:31,035
We humans, we're the
cousins of ants:
599
00:31:31,037 --> 00:31:34,538
Just tell us there's an
outsider at the gates!
600
00:31:34,540 --> 00:31:37,874
You use the metaphor of war
for just about anything
601
00:31:37,876 --> 00:31:41,910
and it gets us roused,
but especially use it about
602
00:31:41,912 --> 00:31:44,579
our group versus
another group,
603
00:31:44,581 --> 00:31:48,549
our subculture versus
another subculture,
604
00:31:48,551 --> 00:31:51,451
and you can really
get us going.
605
00:31:51,453 --> 00:31:53,553
It's clear in
neurolinguistic programming.
606
00:31:53,555 --> 00:31:56,322
Because if you associate
war, you associate it
607
00:31:56,324 --> 00:31:59,892
with a nation having to pull
together to fight a baddy out there.
608
00:31:59,894 --> 00:32:02,828
Now, some folks'll tell you
that I'm dealing in poison,
609
00:32:02,830 --> 00:32:04,963
but hey, do I look like
the kinda guy
610
00:32:04,965 --> 00:32:08,466
that would do that do a
kid like you? Yes!
611
00:32:08,801 --> 00:32:12,435
It's a rhetorical frame in
which the sacrifice of
612
00:32:12,437 --> 00:32:17,940
individual "liberty"
seems... necessary.
613
00:32:17,942 --> 00:32:20,108
This is what's needed
to win the war.
614
00:32:20,443 --> 00:32:24,445
Last year alone, over 10,000
drug criminals were convicted
615
00:32:24,447 --> 00:32:29,082
and nearly 250 million dollars
of their assets were seized
616
00:32:29,084 --> 00:32:33,352
by the DEA-The Drug
Enforcement Administration.
617
00:32:33,354 --> 00:32:35,320
These are a measure of
our commitment
618
00:32:35,322 --> 00:32:38,823
and emerging signs that
we can defeat this enemy.
619
00:32:38,825 --> 00:32:40,758
The astounding thing about
the War on Drugs, is
620
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,962
how long it's gone on and how
little progress has been made.
621
00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:48,532
When I was working for MI-5,
I had my first, sort of...
622
00:32:48,534 --> 00:32:50,133
inkling that all
was not good
623
00:32:50,135 --> 00:32:54,103
because I was working on the
Irish terrorist logistics desk
624
00:32:54,105 --> 00:32:55,904
which is the movement
of people and weapons
625
00:32:55,906 --> 00:32:58,072
into and out of the UK-and,
of course, doing that,
626
00:32:58,074 --> 00:33:01,508
I had to work very closely with
customs, which is there
627
00:33:01,510 --> 00:33:03,727
to try and stop the drugs
coming into the UK.
628
00:33:03,728 --> 00:33:05,945
They just, knew it was like looking
for the needle in a haystack
629
00:33:05,947 --> 00:33:08,914
just to try and stop these
drugs flooding into the UK.
630
00:33:09,216 --> 00:33:13,785
I had record-breaking arrests,
record-breaking interdiction
631
00:33:13,787 --> 00:33:19,489
of supply, but it didn't
make one iota of difference.
632
00:33:19,491 --> 00:33:21,924
You don't see us knocking off
the big guys
633
00:33:21,926 --> 00:33:25,093
so often that, you know,
there's scarcity of drugs.
634
00:33:25,095 --> 00:33:26,194
When was the last time
you couldn't
635
00:33:26,196 --> 00:33:28,529
cop marijuana in this country?
I mean,
636
00:33:28,531 --> 00:33:31,965
there's no marijuana out there!
637
00:33:31,967 --> 00:33:34,067
Oh my God, what am
I gonna do?
638
00:33:34,069 --> 00:33:36,069
I don't think you could go
into any high school in
639
00:33:36,071 --> 00:33:38,671
the country, I don't think you
could go into any small town
640
00:33:38,673 --> 00:33:40,639
in this country, I don't think
you could go into any prison
641
00:33:40,641 --> 00:33:42,173
in this country and
not find marijuana
642
00:33:42,175 --> 00:33:44,042
if you were looking for it.
643
00:33:44,043 --> 00:33:45,910
So the argument that
marijuana prohibition has had
644
00:33:45,912 --> 00:33:48,946
any impact on the availability
on the drug, I think,
645
00:33:48,948 --> 00:33:50,180
really doesn't hold water.
646
00:33:50,182 --> 00:33:56,085
What we see are a regular
meal of arrests
647
00:33:56,087 --> 00:34:02,591
and how many bales of
this or kilos of that.
648
00:34:02,593 --> 00:34:05,126
The show-and-tell is the
glamorous side of it
649
00:34:05,128 --> 00:34:09,230
all of this pot
found inside one semi-truck.
650
00:34:09,232 --> 00:34:12,533
20000 lbs. Worth.
Border patrol calling it
651
00:34:12,535 --> 00:34:15,269
the biggest bust in
our state's history.
652
00:34:15,271 --> 00:34:20,940
You wheel out your 60, 70, 80
kilos of marijuana,
653
00:34:20,942 --> 00:34:24,543
your two assault rifles.
The thing of it is,
654
00:34:24,545 --> 00:34:27,679
if you took the average
show-and-tell...
655
00:34:27,681 --> 00:34:29,213
from the average arrest...
656
00:34:29,215 --> 00:34:32,115
you'd have some little kid-
I mean he might
657
00:34:32,117 --> 00:34:34,984
be 15, 17, 18, 20 years old-
658
00:34:34,986 --> 00:34:37,152
and you would
proudly display...
659
00:34:37,621 --> 00:34:40,188
a small bag of marijuana
on your table
660
00:34:40,190 --> 00:34:43,691
and say, we got him!
We got him.
661
00:34:43,693 --> 00:34:47,861
Came from Ontario, Oregon into
Idaho with some mushrooms
662
00:34:47,863 --> 00:34:50,597
and some weed, and I got
caught with an exhaust so
663
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:52,665
he pulled me over, he put
his head in the window
664
00:34:52,667 --> 00:34:54,933
and said he smelled it, so I just
665
00:34:54,935 --> 00:34:57,302
handed it to him just to get
it over with.
666
00:34:57,304 --> 00:34:58,770
It's such a joke to say
667
00:34:58,772 --> 00:35:01,105
that they're going after
hardcore criminals.
668
00:35:01,107 --> 00:35:05,008
About one-and-a-half million
arrests on drug-related offenses
669
00:35:05,010 --> 00:35:09,812
in the year 2011-about
50% were for marijuana use.
670
00:35:09,814 --> 00:35:12,080
It's practically legal!
I get that all the time...
671
00:35:12,082 --> 00:35:13,648
especially here
in California
672
00:35:13,650 --> 00:35:16,250
and what I say to
those people is,
673
00:35:16,252 --> 00:35:19,686
'it's absolutely NOT
practically legal.'
674
00:35:19,688 --> 00:35:22,855
It's very, very
federally illegal.
675
00:35:22,857 --> 00:35:25,891
It's just an ongoing story
that at this point really
676
00:35:25,893 --> 00:35:29,761
it seems little more than the
premise for television shows.
677
00:35:29,763 --> 00:35:34,098
Dangerous, deadly, illegal.
678
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:36,800
Tonight, the county's
top cop says
679
00:35:36,802 --> 00:35:41,070
much of this stuff was being
made in the back of that plaza.
680
00:35:41,072 --> 00:35:42,938
They got away with it
for a little bit,
681
00:35:42,940 --> 00:35:44,490
but at the end of the day,
682
00:35:44,491 --> 00:35:46,772
they're not going to get
away with it for very long.
683
00:35:49,946 --> 00:35:51,845
There's another aspect
to this game:
684
00:35:51,847 --> 00:35:54,314
That is the economic
side of it.
685
00:35:54,316 --> 00:35:58,250
There's a deal between the
feds and the state
686
00:35:58,252 --> 00:36:00,619
and that's asset seizures.
687
00:36:00,621 --> 00:36:04,322
They call it an "equitable
sharing program" where
688
00:36:04,324 --> 00:36:08,625
they encourage local law
enforcement to seize items
689
00:36:08,627 --> 00:36:11,861
that maybe involved in
criminal activity.
690
00:36:11,863 --> 00:36:13,762
They do an 80/20 split.
691
00:36:13,964 --> 00:36:16,030
Without even getting a
conviction and then they
692
00:36:16,032 --> 00:36:18,799
keep the bulk of the money
or the assets seized.
693
00:36:18,801 --> 00:36:20,801
Maybe ya just wanna
see the kind of stuff
694
00:36:20,803 --> 00:36:22,836
the government seizes
from criminals.
695
00:36:22,838 --> 00:36:24,604
Right now you can actually
check out a number of
696
00:36:24,606 --> 00:36:26,639
forfeited vehicles going
up for auction tomorrow
697
00:36:26,641 --> 00:36:28,173
at the Apple Towing
in Guadalupe.
698
00:36:28,175 --> 00:36:30,909
These are awesome cars! This
one caught my eye of course
699
00:36:30,911 --> 00:36:34,879
first it's a 1968
Chevy Camaro...
700
00:36:35,815 --> 00:36:39,283
I'll lock him up.
701
00:36:39,285 --> 00:36:41,685
I'll seize his car.
I'll hit a house,
702
00:36:41,687 --> 00:36:44,220
I'll seize bank accounts,
I'll seize land -
703
00:36:44,222 --> 00:36:47,289
all because I'm producing
for the state.
704
00:36:47,291 --> 00:36:50,859
There's an incentive for
the state to say, 'do it, '
705
00:36:50,861 --> 00:36:55,196
but the law is such that the
onus to get back your property
706
00:36:55,198 --> 00:36:58,199
is on you! Not on the
police department;
707
00:36:58,201 --> 00:37:00,768
You have to fight to
get back something
708
00:37:00,770 --> 00:37:02,636
through the court system-
709
00:37:02,638 --> 00:37:04,037
that they took away
710
00:37:04,039 --> 00:37:06,973
that they had no right
taking in the first place.
711
00:37:08,009 --> 00:37:12,710
Between 1989 and 2010, an
estimated 12.6 billion dollars
712
00:37:12,712 --> 00:37:15,946
was seized by U.S. attorneys
in asset forfeiture cases.
713
00:37:15,948 --> 00:37:17,914
The growth rate of
seizures during that time
714
00:37:17,916 --> 00:37:22,217
was nearly a 20% increase
every single year.
715
00:37:22,219 --> 00:37:24,352
In the country where I grew up-
America-where, you know
716
00:37:24,354 --> 00:37:26,070
everybody is so proud
of having guns
717
00:37:26,071 --> 00:37:27,787
and proud of their freedom.
'No, I'm not afraid!'
718
00:37:27,790 --> 00:37:29,790
Really? Go plant some
cannabis in your front yard
719
00:37:29,792 --> 00:37:31,391
and tell me how fast it
takes for the man to come
720
00:37:31,393 --> 00:37:34,360
and take everything you own!
721
00:37:34,361 --> 00:37:37,328
Every year the DEA tells you
how many seizures they've made
722
00:37:37,331 --> 00:37:40,265
is
That we have failed again.
723
00:37:40,267 --> 00:37:42,300
What's your budget?
724
00:37:42,902 --> 00:37:45,035
Well, currently... um.
725
00:37:45,037 --> 00:37:46,236
Approximately...
726
00:37:46,238 --> 00:37:47,804
Uh, two million...
727
00:37:47,806 --> 00:37:49,138
Two million?
728
00:37:49,140 --> 00:37:51,707
Two-I'm sorry-
two billion dollars...
729
00:37:51,709 --> 00:37:53,409
Yeah...
730
00:37:53,410 --> 00:37:55,110
You can look into any
federal agency you want to...
731
00:37:55,112 --> 00:37:57,045
literally in their budget
you will see
732
00:37:57,047 --> 00:37:59,313
the extra tens of millions
of dollars are earmarked
733
00:37:59,315 --> 00:38:01,782
expressly to fight
"the war on drugs."
734
00:38:02,384 --> 00:38:05,418
When you get to the
top of both towers,
735
00:38:05,420 --> 00:38:08,320
the interests are
the same.
736
00:38:08,322 --> 00:38:12,457
The major drug dealer wants
to continue selling drugs...
737
00:38:12,459 --> 00:38:15,226
law enforcement wants to
continue trying to prosecute
738
00:38:15,228 --> 00:38:18,462
people who are using the drugs
and there's a harmony there.
739
00:38:18,464 --> 00:38:22,232
If you've ever seen the film
of the head of the DEA-
740
00:38:22,234 --> 00:38:25,435
Lionhart I believe is her
name-when they asked her
741
00:38:25,437 --> 00:38:27,970
is marijuana worse than
heroin? And she sat there
742
00:38:27,972 --> 00:38:30,305
and stuttered around; She
wouldn't answer the question.
743
00:38:30,307 --> 00:38:38,307
Uh, is crack worse for a
person than marijuana?
744
00:38:38,815 --> 00:38:42,483
I believe all illegal drugs
are bad.
745
00:38:42,485 --> 00:38:45,952
Is methamphetamine worse
for somebody's health
746
00:38:45,954 --> 00:38:48,454
than marijuana?
747
00:38:48,456 --> 00:38:50,088
I don't think
any illegal drug...
748
00:38:50,090 --> 00:38:55,993
Is heroin worse for someone's
health than marijuana?
749
00:38:55,995 --> 00:38:57,945
Again...
750
00:38:57,946 --> 00:38:59,896
I mean, either yes, no, or
I don't know!
751
00:38:59,898 --> 00:39:01,931
I mean, if you don't know,
you can look this up;
752
00:39:01,933 --> 00:39:03,465
You should know this as
the chief administrator
753
00:39:03,467 --> 00:39:05,100
for the Drug
Enforcement Agency
754
00:39:05,101 --> 00:39:06,734
I'm asking you a very
straightforward question.
755
00:39:06,736 --> 00:39:08,302
She couldn't answer
the question because
756
00:39:08,304 --> 00:39:13,106
she's a dyed-in-the-wool
prohibitionist and her industry
757
00:39:13,108 --> 00:39:16,809
her life, is dependent upon us
758
00:39:16,811 --> 00:39:21,813
continuing to put 43 million
people in jail.
759
00:39:21,815 --> 00:39:24,916
About 85% of everybody
in our country that
760
00:39:24,918 --> 00:39:27,818
uses any form of illicit
substance whatsoever
761
00:39:27,820 --> 00:39:31,221
uses only marijuana and
so if you were to remove
762
00:39:31,223 --> 00:39:33,389
those people from the
criminal justice system
763
00:39:33,391 --> 00:39:36,191
the sheer number of everyone
else in the country
764
00:39:36,193 --> 00:39:39,460
using every other illegal drug
combined would not justify
765
00:39:39,462 --> 00:39:43,964
this colossal bureaucracy we
have to fight the war on drugs.
766
00:39:44,266 --> 00:39:48,101
It would fall apart. If you
lose marijuana prohibition,
767
00:39:48,103 --> 00:39:50,970
you lose drug prohibition
and the government knows it;
768
00:39:50,972 --> 00:39:53,072
They don't want
to give that up
769
00:39:53,074 --> 00:39:55,240
because of the sheer
money involved,
770
00:39:55,242 --> 00:39:59,977
Going down the path to
legalization in this country
771
00:39:59,979 --> 00:40:04,081
is reckless and irresponsible.
It scares us;
772
00:40:04,083 --> 00:40:06,083
The treatment people
are afraid,
773
00:40:06,085 --> 00:40:10,220
the education people are afraid. Law
enforcement is, is, is worried...
774
00:40:10,222 --> 00:40:11,988
what is gonna happen?
775
00:40:11,990 --> 00:40:14,323
People say, 'well, the vice
cops who work on
776
00:40:14,325 --> 00:40:16,325
on marijuana prohibition would
be out of work,
777
00:40:16,327 --> 00:40:17,793
the people who work
for the DEA,
778
00:40:17,795 --> 00:40:20,062
some of them would
be out of jobs, '
779
00:40:20,063 --> 00:40:22,330
the White House drug czar
office and so on and so forth.
780
00:40:22,332 --> 00:40:26,567
I mean, that's just the most
lunatic defense of prohibition.
781
00:40:26,569 --> 00:40:29,937
By that logic, we should
prohibit everything!
782
00:40:29,939 --> 00:40:31,471
Because then we'd
need to cops to enforce
783
00:40:31,473 --> 00:40:33,372
food prohibition and
housing prohibition
784
00:40:33,374 --> 00:40:35,173
and medicine prohibition.
785
00:40:46,385 --> 00:40:49,219
Beginning in the 1980s, the
police departments became
786
00:40:49,221 --> 00:40:51,387
a number-driven group.
787
00:40:51,389 --> 00:40:56,825
One arrest is one arrest so
if I spend a year and a half
788
00:40:56,827 --> 00:40:59,360
taking down a violent drug
organization that's
789
00:40:59,362 --> 00:41:03,930
killed maybe 15-20 people and
I lock up six guys.
790
00:41:03,932 --> 00:41:08,567
I get six ones. If I went
out on the corner tomorrow,
791
00:41:08,569 --> 00:41:13,605
I can get fifteen "ones"
and they all count the same.
792
00:41:13,607 --> 00:41:15,974
There's no weighing for
like, 'this is the murderer:
793
00:41:15,976 --> 00:41:19,077
We give him fifteen points.
This guy's the marijuana guy:
794
00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:20,945
We give him .2 points.'
795
00:41:20,947 --> 00:41:22,079
No, no,
it's all the same.
796
00:41:22,081 --> 00:41:25,182
One thing about a cannabis
arrest is it's easy,
797
00:41:25,184 --> 00:41:29,018
it's not dangerous, and it turns
into a solved crime very quickly
798
00:41:29,020 --> 00:41:30,452
with very little
paperwork.
799
00:41:30,454 --> 00:41:36,057
The whole thing is numbers because
numbers generate revenue.
800
00:41:36,059 --> 00:41:39,693
That revenue keeps
Congress giving you money.
801
00:41:39,695 --> 00:41:42,162
That money, then, you can turn
around part of it
802
00:41:42,164 --> 00:41:44,230
and keep pressure on Congress.
803
00:41:44,232 --> 00:41:47,099
You don't come with those
numbers-they retaliate
804
00:41:47,101 --> 00:41:49,301
by giving you bad
evaluations.
805
00:41:49,303 --> 00:41:50,735
That's basically what
they did to me.
806
00:41:50,737 --> 00:41:53,204
We have
almost a five billion
807
00:41:53,206 --> 00:41:56,073
dollar budget a year so we
run it like a business and
808
00:41:56,075 --> 00:42:01,044
it's fair to ask the employees
here to do their fair share.
809
00:42:01,046 --> 00:42:03,046
It's not easy to get
a trafficker.
810
00:42:03,048 --> 00:42:05,548
It's not like walking up
to the corner
811
00:42:05,550 --> 00:42:09,118
or shaking the lockers
of a high school.
812
00:42:14,124 --> 00:42:20,194
You reach a point, especially asan executive or a supervisor
813
00:42:20,196 --> 00:42:26,366
where you are now part of
administering the policies
814
00:42:26,368 --> 00:42:28,301
and you start to ask the
hard questions.
815
00:42:28,303 --> 00:42:33,438
Is it really worth a
police officer's time
816
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,741
to bust somebody for a
marijuana cigarette,
817
00:42:36,743 --> 00:42:40,578
take them off the street, put
them in jail, book the evidence
818
00:42:40,580 --> 00:42:43,380
write the report and
then be able to go back
819
00:42:43,382 --> 00:42:46,249
out on the street and attend
to public safety after
820
00:42:46,251 --> 00:42:49,552
you've been gone for 3 hours
for one marijuana arrest?
821
00:42:50,054 --> 00:42:53,622
I used to go to meetings of
chief police officers in the UK
822
00:42:53,624 --> 00:42:56,424
after the formal conference
was over
823
00:42:56,426 --> 00:43:00,460
around the bar and around
the dinner table,
824
00:43:00,462 --> 00:43:02,595
they were all agreeing
that there was
825
00:43:02,597 --> 00:43:05,764
no point in keeping
cannabis illegal
826
00:43:05,766 --> 00:43:08,800
and yet what they said whenthe cameras were rolling,
827
00:43:08,802 --> 00:43:10,601
when the microphones were
in front of them,
828
00:43:10,603 --> 00:43:11,768
was completely different.
829
00:43:12,036 --> 00:43:14,436
In the 15 years I've
been in policy,
830
00:43:14,438 --> 00:43:17,472
I'm a little disillusioned by
how much we were
831
00:43:17,474 --> 00:43:20,107
able to achieve and very
disillusioned on
832
00:43:20,109 --> 00:43:23,576
the ability of leaders to
still pretend we are achieving.
833
00:43:24,111 --> 00:43:26,311
You know we need
police forces.
834
00:43:26,313 --> 00:43:28,179
If I was in charge of society,
of course
835
00:43:28,181 --> 00:43:31,215
I'd have a police force, but
I'd make sure there were
836
00:43:31,217 --> 00:43:33,550
sensible laws for them
to enforce.
837
00:43:33,552 --> 00:43:36,152
And there are plenty of
police who feel like that too.
838
00:43:36,154 --> 00:43:38,487
There's immense pressure on the
inside of these sort of
839
00:43:38,489 --> 00:43:42,590
professions to toe the line
and just keep quiet.
840
00:43:42,592 --> 00:43:46,593
The culture will eat you up
if in fact
841
00:43:46,595 --> 00:43:49,162
you come out while
you're a police leader.
842
00:43:49,164 --> 00:43:51,197
If they were to come out
and say that they
843
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:55,301
were in favor of taxation,
regulation of marijuana
844
00:43:55,303 --> 00:43:58,137
they wouldn't get their
promotions, they wouldn't
845
00:43:58,139 --> 00:44:02,174
be able to move through theranks; they'll be labeled
846
00:44:02,176 --> 00:44:04,016
and I've seen that
take place.
847
00:44:11,250 --> 00:44:13,149
There's alot of work being done
848
00:44:13,151 --> 00:44:15,451
on what creates respect
for laws;
849
00:44:15,453 --> 00:44:18,320
To what extent do people feel
that laws are legitimate.
850
00:44:18,322 --> 00:44:20,255
If they feel that laws are
legitimate, they're likely
851
00:44:20,257 --> 00:44:21,756
to comply with them
without needing
852
00:44:21,758 --> 00:44:24,258
to be coerced into them
and punished.
853
00:44:24,260 --> 00:44:27,427
And the research is suggesting
that people want fairness.
854
00:44:27,429 --> 00:44:32,564
In a sense, what creates
respect for law is justice.
855
00:44:32,566 --> 00:44:36,467
Seeing it done. That
elicits great respect
856
00:44:36,469 --> 00:44:39,570
when you actually see it
being done.
857
00:44:39,572 --> 00:44:41,638
There's another kind of
respect though, which is
858
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:46,708
respect for the stick-it's
like the force of authority.
859
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:49,577
Pretty much, marijuana
works with the stick.
860
00:44:50,446 --> 00:44:52,612
One of the consequences
of the War on Drugs is
861
00:44:52,614 --> 00:44:54,614
people have stopped
looking at the police
862
00:44:54,616 --> 00:44:57,550
as their protectors and more
see them, right,
863
00:44:57,552 --> 00:44:59,785
as their potential
persecutors.
864
00:44:59,787 --> 00:45:01,353
The police department
basically becomes
865
00:45:01,355 --> 00:45:03,755
the 'other' to the community,
866
00:45:03,757 --> 00:45:05,790
and once you have
that breakdown,
867
00:45:05,792 --> 00:45:09,160
then information stops flowing.
868
00:45:09,162 --> 00:45:12,229
So you don't learn about crimes
and then the only
869
00:45:12,231 --> 00:45:13,897
crime you really become
interested in is the one
870
00:45:13,899 --> 00:45:15,732
ou can solve which is
locking people up
871
00:45:15,734 --> 00:45:18,534
on the corner
for using drugs.
872
00:45:18,669 --> 00:45:21,186
And, you know, a great
metric of that
873
00:45:21,187 --> 00:45:23,704
is murder clearance rates.
So, a murder is cleared when
874
00:45:23,707 --> 00:45:25,573
an arrest is made and
somebody goes to jail
875
00:45:25,575 --> 00:45:28,809
and in 1965, we were clearing-
police were clearing-
876
00:45:28,811 --> 00:45:31,478
about 90% of the murders that
were committed in this country.
877
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,346
That means, for 90% of
the murders in this country
878
00:45:33,348 --> 00:45:37,350
there was an arrest and a charge
and today that's under 65%.
879
00:45:37,352 --> 00:45:40,186
That's after all the tremendous
technological advances
880
00:45:40,188 --> 00:45:41,720
you know, DNA
evidence all sorts of
881
00:45:41,722 --> 00:45:44,789
forensics and, you know,
expanding police budgets
882
00:45:44,791 --> 00:45:46,791
and that sort of thing. I
think if we were to look
883
00:45:46,793 --> 00:45:49,827
at one cause for that drop
in murder clearance rates
884
00:45:49,829 --> 00:45:52,329
it's the breakdown in
the relationship between
885
00:45:52,331 --> 00:45:54,431
society at large
and the police
886
00:45:54,433 --> 00:45:57,167
and, you know, that by
extension, is a consequence
887
00:45:57,169 --> 00:45:59,269
almost entirely of
the war on drugs.
888
00:45:59,271 --> 00:46:01,638
By having to uphold these
outdated and failed policies,
889
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,173
it ruins our reputation
and it damages
890
00:46:04,175 --> 00:46:05,541
the community relations
between the police
891
00:46:05,543 --> 00:46:07,843
and the policed, as well.
892
00:46:07,845 --> 00:46:09,544
Whole generations have
grown up
893
00:46:09,546 --> 00:46:12,580
distrusting their local police
rather than seeing them
894
00:46:12,582 --> 00:46:15,215
as a potential
protective layer of society.
895
00:46:15,217 --> 00:46:18,518
When you do this, you
change the whole nature
896
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,820
of the game, and
from 1980 on
897
00:46:20,822 --> 00:46:24,323
the police become more and
more militarized.
898
00:46:24,325 --> 00:46:28,327
The initiation of the drug war
was the initiation of
899
00:46:28,329 --> 00:46:34,499
a general loosening of const-
raint on search and seizure.
900
00:46:34,501 --> 00:46:37,568
It became just part
of police practice
901
00:46:37,570 --> 00:46:39,736
to be breaking down the door.
We see it now
902
00:46:39,738 --> 00:46:44,573
as a staple of Cops;
that's now our reality.
903
00:46:44,575 --> 00:46:48,843
That wasn't the reality
before... the drug war.
904
00:46:49,779 --> 00:46:51,445
Columbia police!
Search warrant!
905
00:46:51,447 --> 00:46:53,327
Columbia police!
Search warrant!
906
00:46:53,882 --> 00:46:55,762
Columbia police!
Search warrant!
907
00:46:57,785 --> 00:46:59,284
Search warrant!
Search warrant!
908
00:46:59,286 --> 00:47:00,818
Don't move! Don't move!
909
00:47:01,420 --> 00:47:02,285
Don't move!
910
00:47:02,453 --> 00:47:03,552
Search warrant!
911
00:47:04,588 --> 00:47:06,348
Search warrant!
Don't move!
912
00:47:07,457 --> 00:47:09,256
Search warrant!
Don't move!
913
00:47:11,226 --> 00:47:12,325
That's on him.
914
00:47:12,327 --> 00:47:14,994
Yeah. The money
and the dope.
915
00:47:15,563 --> 00:47:18,564
Now you see police and most
often they look like soldiers:
916
00:47:18,566 --> 00:47:20,566
They're dressed in black,
they have jackboots
917
00:47:20,568 --> 00:47:23,468
high-caliber arms and they
don't walk the street
918
00:47:23,470 --> 00:47:24,702
and get to know the
community, right?
919
00:47:24,704 --> 00:47:26,370
They drive around
in cruisers
920
00:47:26,372 --> 00:47:28,492
that look they belong
on the battle field
921
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,841
that's the
difference between
922
00:47:31,843 --> 00:47:33,809
the Greenville police
department's new.
923
00:47:33,811 --> 00:47:36,344
SWAT truck compared
to the old one.
924
00:47:36,346 --> 00:47:38,446
The truck has a lot of
bells and whistles:
925
00:47:38,448 --> 00:47:40,314
From the simple storage
compartments,
926
00:47:40,316 --> 00:47:43,450
to the gunports on the
side. They're actually proud
927
00:47:43,452 --> 00:47:45,952
to say they did not use
any taxpayer money.
928
00:47:45,954 --> 00:47:48,254
We paid for it with
seized funds
929
00:47:48,255 --> 00:47:50,575
it came out of money we had
seized from drug dealers...
930
00:47:56,296 --> 00:48:00,865
That's where respect is lost.
The officers on the street
931
00:48:00,867 --> 00:48:05,035
have lost it; the institution
itself has lost it.
932
00:48:05,037 --> 00:48:08,371
You're not being seen
as anything but the other-
933
00:48:08,373 --> 00:48:10,306
people warring on us.
934
00:48:11,542 --> 00:48:13,708
The war on drugs has
had a puzzling effect
935
00:48:13,710 --> 00:48:16,777
on how society seeks
to police itself.
936
00:48:16,779 --> 00:48:19,546
With hundreds of thousands of
marijuana arrests annually,
937
00:48:19,548 --> 00:48:22,982
once
you start gathering a large
938
00:48:22,984 --> 00:48:26,451
group of prisoners, where
do you put them all?
939
00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:29,853
Well, private prison is
as scary as all shit
940
00:48:29,855 --> 00:48:33,790
and they're scary as hell
for a very simple reason:
941
00:48:33,792 --> 00:48:36,959
They make it highly profitable
to incarcerate people.
942
00:48:36,961 --> 00:48:38,493
We've lost track of how
943
00:48:38,495 --> 00:48:40,428
ridiculous some of the
things we do are.
944
00:48:40,430 --> 00:48:43,731
So we're gonna give people
a profit motive
945
00:48:43,733 --> 00:48:45,699
in putting more people
in jail?
946
00:48:45,701 --> 00:48:47,600
Gee, I wonder what's
gonna happen...
947
00:48:47,602 --> 00:48:49,535
Corrections Corporation
of America is
948
00:48:49,537 --> 00:48:51,937
the Hilton of the private
prison industry:
949
00:48:51,939 --> 00:48:54,439
A multi-billion dollar
business that's getting
950
00:48:54,441 --> 00:48:56,374
rich off punishment.
951
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:59,643
The more people locked up
behind bars
952
00:48:59,645 --> 00:49:03,680
and the longer they stay there
the more money CCA makes.
953
00:49:03,682 --> 00:49:05,381
Last year the company
banked
954
00:49:05,383 --> 00:49:08,384
a reported 1.7 billion
dollars.
955
00:49:08,586 --> 00:49:11,453
When you have a privatized
prison, there's a contract
956
00:49:11,455 --> 00:49:14,322
between the state
and the prison
957
00:49:14,324 --> 00:49:16,824
that the state has to
maintain a certain
958
00:49:16,826 --> 00:49:18,826
occupancy rate
in the prison.
959
00:49:18,828 --> 00:49:20,994
Meaning that the
state guarantees
960
00:49:20,996 --> 00:49:26,565
that the prison will stay
anywhere from 80 to 100% full.
961
00:49:27,334 --> 00:49:29,834
Crime could go down,
it doesn't matter.
962
00:49:29,836 --> 00:49:31,468
The taxpayers are still on
963
00:49:31,470 --> 00:49:33,403
the hook and the government
is still on the hook
964
00:49:33,405 --> 00:49:36,105
for filling up your prisons.
965
00:49:36,107 --> 00:49:37,906
Well, where do you get
these numbers from?
966
00:49:37,908 --> 00:49:40,075
The easiest way to make sure
that the quotas are full
967
00:49:40,077 --> 00:49:42,944
in these private prisons is to
get the low hanging fruit
968
00:49:42,946 --> 00:49:45,012
which is just the drug user
as a criminal
969
00:49:45,014 --> 00:49:47,114
rather than someone who might
need a bit of medical help.
970
00:49:47,116 --> 00:49:49,449
And that means that every
fourth person in the world
971
00:49:49,451 --> 00:49:51,034
in jail
972
00:49:51,035 --> 00:49:52,618
is a citizen of the
"land of the free."
973
00:49:52,620 --> 00:49:55,220
You just become a commodity,
rather than a human being,
974
00:49:55,222 --> 00:49:56,988
churned through the system
to make money
975
00:49:56,990 --> 00:49:59,023
for these big corporations.
976
00:49:59,025 --> 00:50:00,958
If we go on down this path,
we'll see more
977
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,527
and more laws being invented
and created to justify the
978
00:50:03,529 --> 00:50:06,897
imprisonment of more and
more people. Public money
979
00:50:06,899 --> 00:50:08,632
will ironically be
plunged into
980
00:50:08,634 --> 00:50:10,800
pursuading us that that
is right.
981
00:50:10,802 --> 00:50:13,803
Each state is constantly
arguing about the fact
982
00:50:13,805 --> 00:50:15,171
that they don't have
enough money for
983
00:50:15,173 --> 00:50:17,072
for their public education,
but then
984
00:50:17,074 --> 00:50:19,141
at the same time,
they'll take
985
00:50:19,142 --> 00:50:21,209
state funds-or in a lot
of cases, federal money-
986
00:50:21,211 --> 00:50:23,678
and put it into the
prison system.
987
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,846
This is Carl Holton school
and it's been closed
988
00:50:25,848 --> 00:50:28,949
for some time now and
in it's place will rise
989
00:50:28,951 --> 00:50:31,952
a hospital prison
with over 1700 beds.
990
00:50:31,954 --> 00:50:37,223
California, since 1980,
we've built 23 prisons,
991
00:50:37,225 --> 00:50:40,159
we've hired 14,000 prison guards
992
00:50:40,161 --> 00:50:41,994
and we've fired 5000 teachers.
993
00:50:41,996 --> 00:50:44,096
West Virginia is strapped
for money, but we're
994
00:50:44,098 --> 00:50:46,865
building another prison here.
Got to!
995
00:50:46,867 --> 00:50:48,800
A lot of people getting
arrested here.
996
00:50:48,802 --> 00:50:51,636
Most states are just like
mine of California:
997
00:50:51,638 --> 00:50:53,938
The largest, strongest
political lobby group
998
00:50:53,940 --> 00:50:56,640
in our state is - the
prison guards' union.
999
00:50:56,642 --> 00:50:59,876
You have unions that are
lobbying to make sure that
1000
00:50:59,878 --> 00:51:02,678
certain drugs stay illegal
regardless of
1001
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,846
of how safe they are, to make
sure that prisons
1002
00:51:04,848 --> 00:51:08,216
are filled because prisons
extract money from the system.
1003
00:51:08,218 --> 00:51:09,317
It's insanity!
1004
00:51:10,286 --> 00:51:13,587
It's not rational or
logical; It's... financial.
1005
00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:15,722
Money is the backdrop to
everything. You can't
1006
00:51:15,724 --> 00:51:18,658
even run from it; I try to
see other things or
1007
00:51:18,660 --> 00:51:20,626
put other perspectives on it,
1008
00:51:20,628 --> 00:51:22,508
but it always boils down
to money.
1009
00:51:22,762 --> 00:51:25,062
We've even seen, in places
like Pennsylvania, where
1010
00:51:25,064 --> 00:51:29,199
judges have gone and faced
high federal sentences for
1011
00:51:29,201 --> 00:51:31,067
actually streamlining
children
1012
00:51:31,069 --> 00:51:33,303
into these private
facilities.
1013
00:51:33,304 --> 00:51:35,538
A former juvenile court judge
in Pennsylvania could face
1014
00:51:35,540 --> 00:51:38,073
more than 10 years in prison
after being convicted
1015
00:51:38,075 --> 00:51:41,776
in a kids for cash scheme.
Prosecutors say he used
1016
00:51:41,778 --> 00:51:44,545
children as pawns-locking
them up unjustly
1017
00:51:44,547 --> 00:51:46,113
in a plot to get rich.
1018
00:51:46,115 --> 00:51:47,614
Remember my son?
1019
00:51:47,616 --> 00:51:49,182
An all-star wrestler!
1020
00:51:49,184 --> 00:51:51,083
He's gone, he shot himself
in the heart!
1021
00:51:51,085 --> 00:51:54,719
You scumbag, you ruined
my fucking life!
1022
00:51:57,256 --> 00:51:59,689
And what could be more
harmful to one's self than
1023
00:51:59,691 --> 00:52:01,641
being sent to prison?
1024
00:52:01,642 --> 00:52:03,592
No effect of the drug
can be possibly as harmful
1025
00:52:03,594 --> 00:52:06,795
as doing jail time
for consuming it.
1026
00:52:06,797 --> 00:52:08,863
And they end up with a
criminal record.
1027
00:52:08,865 --> 00:52:12,132
What does that do to them?
They could lose their job;
1028
00:52:12,134 --> 00:52:15,068
In some parts of the world,
they will lose their housing.
1029
00:52:15,070 --> 00:52:17,870
They will lose the
right to education.
1030
00:52:17,872 --> 00:52:20,339
This is a fucking kid who
just got arrested recently
1031
00:52:20,341 --> 00:52:22,808
for having marijuana on
him. They put him in jail
1032
00:52:22,810 --> 00:52:25,744
and he had an extreme
food allergy. He asked them
1033
00:52:25,746 --> 00:52:28,646
if there was any milk in
any of their products,
1034
00:52:28,648 --> 00:52:30,581
they wouldn't answer him, they
gave him food, he ate it and
1035
00:52:30,583 --> 00:52:33,050
he fucking died in jail.
1036
00:52:33,052 --> 00:52:36,686
How... criminal is that?
1037
00:52:36,688 --> 00:52:40,056
What they've made illegal
isn't the problem, alright?
1038
00:52:40,058 --> 00:52:42,725
The problem is the
policy itself.
1039
00:52:42,727 --> 00:52:45,160
This business about drug
offenses; I mean it's time
1040
00:52:45,162 --> 00:52:49,863
we stopped locking up people
for possession of marijuana.
1041
00:52:49,865 --> 00:52:52,765
It selects people that it puts
in jail, so we see
1042
00:52:52,767 --> 00:52:57,001
widely disparate penalties
among socioeconomic groups
1043
00:52:57,003 --> 00:52:58,369
among racial groups.
1044
00:52:58,371 --> 00:53:01,271
White people and black people
in this country do drugs
1045
00:53:01,273 --> 00:53:03,706
at the same rate so they
should be arrested
1046
00:53:03,708 --> 00:53:06,175
at the same rate, but the
reality is, of course
1047
00:53:06,177 --> 00:53:08,644
that's not remotely true.
Across the nation,
1048
00:53:08,646 --> 00:53:12,847
blacks are arrested at four
times the rate of whites.
1049
00:53:12,849 --> 00:53:14,949
Now, in some places
like Minneapolis,
1050
00:53:14,951 --> 00:53:19,353
Washington, D.C., Iowa,
it's eight times the rate.
1051
00:53:19,355 --> 00:53:22,055
So, why in the world would
you be arresting
1052
00:53:22,057 --> 00:53:23,990
black Americans at eight
times the rate-or even
1053
00:53:23,992 --> 00:53:25,958
nation-wide at four
times rate-of whites?
1054
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:30,162
They're using it at the same
rate! You have no excuse!
1055
00:53:30,164 --> 00:53:32,330
If you are a young black
man walking around the
1056
00:53:32,332 --> 00:53:34,231
streets of London today,
you are nine times more
1057
00:53:34,233 --> 00:53:36,333
likely to be stopped
and searched on
1058
00:53:36,335 --> 00:53:38,535
suspicion of carrying drugs.
1059
00:53:38,536 --> 00:53:40,736
I have risen through classes,
so I know
1060
00:53:40,739 --> 00:53:42,772
you know what I mean-
the difference.
1061
00:53:42,774 --> 00:53:45,207
Growin' up in Pittsburgh,
just being on the streets,
1062
00:53:45,209 --> 00:53:47,842
if I got caught with some weed,
they're gonna look at me
1063
00:53:47,844 --> 00:53:50,077
me as I'm selling some
weed or I'm trying to get
1064
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:52,746
some weed to one of their kids
I look like a threat
1065
00:53:52,748 --> 00:53:56,416
but when I started rapping and
started associating myself
1066
00:53:56,418 --> 00:53:59,085
with other people, started
getting money:
1067
00:53:59,087 --> 00:54:02,021
They'll be like, 'oh he's not
dangerous, he can smoke.'
1068
00:54:02,023 --> 00:54:04,790
The War on Drugs is one of
those issues that highlights
1069
00:54:04,792 --> 00:54:07,058
very clearly that there is one
law for the rich and powerful
1070
00:54:07,060 --> 00:54:08,900
and one law for
the rest of us.
1071
00:54:10,296 --> 00:54:14,398
HSBC is a giant bank that
actually laundered money
1072
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,167
for the Mexican drug cartels.
Billions of dollars!
1073
00:54:18,335 --> 00:54:19,934
Nobody went to jail.
1074
00:54:19,936 --> 00:54:22,403
Naturally, if there is a
big bank that is
1075
00:54:22,405 --> 00:54:25,272
laundering money for drug
cartels, they should face
1076
00:54:25,274 --> 00:54:28,408
a federal prosecution and
criminal charges but that's
1077
00:54:28,410 --> 00:54:32,945
not what happened. They got a
fine of 1.9 billion dollars!
1078
00:54:32,947 --> 00:54:36,048
Well, what's a fine to
HSBC? It's pocket change;
1079
00:54:36,050 --> 00:54:37,816
It's one of the costs of
doing business.
1080
00:54:37,818 --> 00:54:40,885
And nobody goes to jail
and a mother of four
1081
00:54:40,887 --> 00:54:43,420
is arrested for $30 worth
of pot and
1082
00:54:43,422 --> 00:54:45,955
she's put in jail for
ten years.
1083
00:54:45,957 --> 00:54:48,724
The people at HSCBC are
1084
00:54:48,726 --> 00:54:54,095
in the elite, the woman with
the $30 worth of pot is not.
1085
00:54:54,697 --> 00:54:58,331
Every animal that's ever had a
hierarchical social structure
1086
00:54:58,333 --> 00:55:00,833
going all the way back to
lizards, lobsters
1087
00:55:00,835 --> 00:55:05,003
and puppy dogs-has built that
structure on prohibition
1088
00:55:05,005 --> 00:55:07,071
and there's always been a
chicken at the
1089
00:55:07,073 --> 00:55:09,773
bottom the pecking order
and the one on the bottom
1090
00:55:09,775 --> 00:55:12,108
of the pecking order ends up
in a miserable
1091
00:55:12,110 --> 00:55:18,980
god awful, picked-on,
pecked-on state and that
1092
00:55:18,982 --> 00:55:23,084
isn't mankind's
social invention
1093
00:55:23,086 --> 00:55:26,720
that is mother nature's social
invention. Does that mean
1094
00:55:26,722 --> 00:55:31,991
mean it's good? Hell no. And
it's our job to reverse it,
1095
00:55:31,993 --> 00:55:34,126
natural or not.
1096
00:55:37,931 --> 00:55:42,032
Empathy is all it really
takes to open up the avenues
1097
00:55:42,034 --> 00:55:45,268
of outrage and realize how
appalling this is.
1098
00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:46,902
Let's remember something
boys and girls:
1099
00:55:46,904 --> 00:55:49,938
Jails are there for people who
hit us over the head
1100
00:55:49,940 --> 00:55:52,106
when we're walking down
the street,
1101
00:55:52,108 --> 00:55:54,292
jails are there for people
1102
00:55:54,293 --> 00:55:56,477
who break into our
homes and loot the place.
1103
00:55:56,479 --> 00:55:59,880
Jails are there for people
who do genuine harm.
1104
00:55:59,882 --> 00:56:02,983
So I have no right
to put them in jail
1105
00:56:02,985 --> 00:56:06,786
for having a different lifestyle
than mine. In fact,
1106
00:56:06,788 --> 00:56:09,921
if I were to do that, it
would be criminal.
1107
00:56:12,091 --> 00:56:17,360
And yet, the war
on marijuana continues on.
1108
00:56:17,362 --> 00:56:21,330
Only now with new
medical discoveries.
1109
00:56:21,332 --> 00:56:25,133
You might ask yourself, 'What
possible health benefits
1110
00:56:25,135 --> 00:56:27,468
could an illegal plant have?'
1111
00:56:27,470 --> 00:56:30,204
The answer is starting to
become more clear.
1112
00:56:30,206 --> 00:56:32,072
It begins with something
that each and every
1113
00:56:32,074 --> 00:56:34,874
it's
something called
1114
00:56:34,876 --> 00:56:37,209
the endocannabinoid system.
1115
00:56:37,411 --> 00:56:39,911
We think of marijuana as
this violent, unnatural
1116
00:56:39,913 --> 00:56:44,048
intrusion on human biology.
It's not.
1117
00:56:44,050 --> 00:56:48,451
We are built with all kinds
of receptors for cannabis.
1118
00:56:49,854 --> 00:56:53,388
Cannabis mimics endogenous
chemicals that we already
1119
00:56:53,390 --> 00:56:56,457
produce in the body called
endocannabinoids.
1120
00:56:56,459 --> 00:56:58,025
That's why we have
receptors that
1121
00:56:58,027 --> 00:57:01,561
pretty well fit
cannabis.
1122
00:57:01,563 --> 00:57:04,797
Cannabinoids are these
twenty-carbon molecules
1123
00:57:04,799 --> 00:57:06,431
that we produce,
the plant produces
1124
00:57:06,433 --> 00:57:08,065
there's over a hundred of them
in the plant
1125
00:57:08,067 --> 00:57:11,901
and these two systems work
together to regulate cell,
1126
00:57:12,136 --> 00:57:14,803
cluster cell, and
intracellular functions.
1127
00:57:14,805 --> 00:57:17,238
All the cannabinoids do is
help cells function.
1128
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,290
They don't care what the
cell does
1129
00:57:19,291 --> 00:57:21,341
they don't care if its
contracting, secreting thyroid
1130
00:57:21,344 --> 00:57:24,445
synthesizing this, remodeling
bone, doesn't matter.
1131
00:57:24,447 --> 00:57:26,079
Just, they're doing something
and they do it
1132
00:57:26,081 --> 00:57:28,047
a little more effectively.
1133
00:57:28,049 --> 00:57:32,517
Western medicine has never
seen a substance like this.
1134
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:36,087
We like single drug/ single
function, and you come along
1135
00:57:36,089 --> 00:57:37,988
with a molecule that may
have an interface
1136
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:40,190
inside of every cell
and help it function
1137
00:57:40,192 --> 00:57:45,894
more effectively and, really,
it's a hard one to imagine.
1138
00:57:46,062 --> 00:57:48,563
I can't find any real
legitimate doctor that thinks
1139
00:57:48,565 --> 00:57:52,333
smoking marijuana is good for
anybody. Sure it may
1140
00:57:52,335 --> 00:57:54,635
relieve pain temporarily,
but a fifth of Jack Daniels
1141
00:57:54,637 --> 00:57:56,303
might do the same thing,
and nobody's calling
1142
00:57:56,305 --> 00:57:58,655
that medicine right?
1143
00:57:58,656 --> 00:58:01,006
People who say there is
no established medical
1144
00:58:01,009 --> 00:58:04,743
use of marijuana simply don't
know what they're talkin' about.
1145
00:58:05,979 --> 00:58:08,012
It's so versatile.
1146
00:58:08,014 --> 00:58:10,147
It seems every day when I
open up the news, there's
1147
00:58:10,149 --> 00:58:11,681
another report on cannabinoids
1148
00:58:11,683 --> 00:58:13,649
having some type of
medical utility.
1149
00:58:13,651 --> 00:58:17,185
Control of muscle spasticity,
multiple sclerosis,
1150
00:58:17,187 --> 00:58:19,053
Glaucoma, colitis.
1151
00:58:19,055 --> 00:58:20,120
Nausea, pain.
1152
00:58:20,122 --> 00:58:21,588
Migraine headaches.
1153
00:58:21,590 --> 00:58:24,591
There are hundreds of
reasons that
1154
00:58:24,593 --> 00:58:27,393
people find marijuana
useful.
1155
00:58:27,395 --> 00:58:31,696
That's why I look so good
after 41 years in the game.
1156
00:58:31,698 --> 00:58:38,469
It is the most non-toxic medicine
I have ever encountered.
1157
00:58:39,238 --> 00:58:42,038
Once it's free of the
prohibition tariff,
1158
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,007
it's gonna be much less
expensive than the
1159
00:58:45,009 --> 00:58:48,143
pharmaceutical products
which it will replace.
1160
00:58:52,482 --> 00:58:54,615
Think of a strain as a little
chemistry lab
1161
00:58:54,617 --> 00:58:57,017
an organic chemistry lab
because what's happening is
1162
00:58:57,019 --> 00:58:59,719
mother nature is creating
her own cannabinoid profile.
1163
00:58:59,721 --> 00:59:02,688
For instance you could smoke
a variety or use a variety
1164
00:59:02,690 --> 00:59:04,723
that would help you with your
headache or I could
1165
00:59:04,724 --> 00:59:06,757
use a variety that might
help me with my back pain.
1166
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,526
If an AIDS patient comes in
and they're having problems
1167
00:59:08,528 --> 00:59:11,128
eating, or they can't
sleep-okay, you can't eat,
1168
00:59:11,130 --> 00:59:12,562
you can't sleep, you know
for sure the indica is
1169
00:59:12,564 --> 00:59:14,564
gonna put you down, it's
gonna relax you 100%,
1170
00:59:14,566 --> 00:59:17,099
it's gonna give you appetite
and you don't wanna
1171
00:59:17,101 --> 00:59:19,034
give him a sativa; Because
you give him a sativa,
1172
00:59:19,036 --> 00:59:20,168
he's gonna be up thinking
all night.
1173
00:59:20,170 --> 00:59:22,436
So it's about genes;
It is about
1174
00:59:22,438 --> 00:59:24,571
this kind of character of
plant can do this,
1175
00:59:24,573 --> 00:59:26,372
and this kind of plant
can do that.
1176
00:59:26,374 --> 00:59:29,575
It's very important to
keep these gene marks-
1177
00:59:29,577 --> 00:59:31,710
these original
ones-it could be
1178
00:59:31,712 --> 00:59:33,545
the medicine that we need.
1179
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:40,650
What is a land race? A land
race is basically a
1180
00:59:40,652 --> 00:59:44,453
species of marijuana that's
indigenous to an area
1181
00:59:44,455 --> 00:59:46,421
and has been growing there for
hundreds of years
1182
00:59:46,423 --> 00:59:48,022
in a certain area.
1183
00:59:48,024 --> 00:59:50,424
Cannabis is from all over
the world, so we have
1184
00:59:50,426 --> 00:59:52,559
Afghan varieties,
Indian varieties.
1185
00:59:52,561 --> 00:59:55,695
In Colombia you have the
famous Santa Marta Punta Roja
1186
00:59:55,697 --> 01:00:00,032
in Central Africa, you'll have
the Malawi Gold.
1187
01:00:00,034 --> 01:00:03,035
When I started this whole
new series on strain hunting
1188
01:00:03,037 --> 01:00:05,604
it was to show the world
how much
1189
01:00:05,606 --> 01:00:09,774
people depend on marijuana
around the world.
1190
01:00:09,776 --> 01:00:12,610
We estimate that probably
around two to three
1191
01:00:12,612 --> 01:00:15,713
hundred million people's
families are
1192
01:00:15,715 --> 01:00:17,414
depending on this crop.
1193
01:00:17,416 --> 01:00:19,549
It's still a drug in most
countries so
1194
01:00:19,551 --> 01:00:22,285
the police takes it,
or it's expensive, so
1195
01:00:22,287 --> 01:00:24,720
robbers will steal it andthese are areas where the.
1196
01:00:24,722 --> 01:00:29,457
UN or other big international
NGO's like UNESCO
1197
01:00:29,459 --> 01:00:30,758
never will come.
1198
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,460
In these very remote areas
there are a lot of
1199
01:00:33,462 --> 01:00:36,429
very nice land races and we
would like to preserve
1200
01:00:36,431 --> 01:00:39,098
these land races for the
future so we try to
1201
01:00:39,100 --> 01:00:41,600
obtain them and find them
and bring them back.
1202
01:00:41,602 --> 01:00:44,836
We have new varieties that
we can play with to see
1203
01:00:44,838 --> 01:00:46,771
if they will have any
benefit for the future-
1204
01:00:46,773 --> 01:00:48,706
medicinal or recreational.
1205
01:00:48,708 --> 01:00:51,542
It's like getting a new
athlete on your team that
1206
01:00:51,544 --> 01:00:52,843
you can cross-breed and
1207
01:00:52,845 --> 01:00:55,345
create a new variety
of marijuana.
1208
01:00:56,848 --> 01:01:00,115
In recent years, understanding
of medical marijuana's
1209
01:01:00,117 --> 01:01:04,418
diversity has become
universally widespread news.
1210
01:01:04,420 --> 01:01:06,653
With a greater knowledge
of strains has come new
1211
01:01:06,655 --> 01:01:10,156
new discoveries. These
discoveries are leading us to
1212
01:01:10,158 --> 01:01:13,726
medical benefits we never
could have imagined.
1213
01:01:17,664 --> 01:01:19,597
Jayden is seven years old
now
1214
01:01:19,599 --> 01:01:23,734
Jayden was born
perfectly healthy.
1215
01:01:23,736 --> 01:01:28,438
At four months old, Jayden
had his first seizure.
1216
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,339
It was just a downhill road
from there
1217
01:01:30,341 --> 01:01:31,606
for the next few years.
1218
01:01:31,608 --> 01:01:36,377
He was having 500 twitching,
myoclonic seizures a day;
1219
01:01:36,379 --> 01:01:39,413
He'd have grand mals for an
hour, hour and a half.
1220
01:01:39,415 --> 01:01:41,448
I remember he was crying
from 1 o'clock at night
1221
01:01:41,450 --> 01:01:43,850
till 9 in the morning-
screaming and crying in pain.
1222
01:01:43,852 --> 01:01:45,751
He was seeing things, he
was hallucinating
1223
01:01:45,753 --> 01:01:47,719
from the medications.
1224
01:01:47,721 --> 01:01:51,556
At four and a half, Jayden
was taking 22 pills a day
1225
01:01:51,558 --> 01:01:54,158
he was at 25,000 pills he
had taken by the time
1226
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,526
he was 5 years old.
1227
01:01:56,595 --> 01:01:59,195
Jayden had tried twelve
different medications,
1228
01:01:59,197 --> 01:02:01,314
we had 40 ambulance bills,
we were fighting with
1229
01:02:01,315 --> 01:02:03,432
the insurance company allthe time. We lost our house,
1230
01:02:03,434 --> 01:02:05,467
we lost our cars, we lost
our business
1231
01:02:05,469 --> 01:02:06,801
we lost our family.
1232
01:02:08,905 --> 01:02:11,572
I went to UCSF, I said,
'look, I don't think Jayden's
1233
01:02:11,574 --> 01:02:14,241
gonna make it another
week. What do you suggest?'
1234
01:02:14,243 --> 01:02:16,710
They're all, 'I don't know, I
mean, I would try anything.'
1235
01:02:16,712 --> 01:02:19,312
I go, 'what do you think
about medical marijuana?'
1236
01:02:19,314 --> 01:02:21,247
They're all, 'well, like we
said, we think we're in a
1237
01:02:21,249 --> 01:02:23,315
life and death situation-
you should try anything.'
1238
01:02:23,317 --> 01:02:26,184
So I said alright, I went
and picked up something.
1239
01:02:26,186 --> 01:02:29,754
I saw in a dispensary, and
came home, I gave it to Jayden-
1240
01:02:29,756 --> 01:02:31,789
after four and a half
years of having myoclonic
1241
01:02:31,791 --> 01:02:34,792
seizures, and
twitching and head drops
1242
01:02:34,794 --> 01:02:37,494
and seizing-the first day
I gave it to him was-
1243
01:02:37,496 --> 01:02:39,829
thank God one million times-
was the first day he's
1244
01:02:39,831 --> 01:02:41,897
ever went seizure free in
his life.
1245
01:02:41,899 --> 01:02:46,267
Second
day, third day, fourth day,
1246
01:02:46,269 --> 01:02:48,702
the seizures were down
dramatically; I could see his
1247
01:02:48,704 --> 01:02:50,704
eyes lighting up.
1248
01:02:50,706 --> 01:02:53,006
It was summertime-
1249
01:02:53,007 --> 01:02:55,307
it was June 1st the first
day I gave it to him 2011.
1250
01:02:55,310 --> 01:02:57,576
He started swimming;
Jayden's never been able
1251
01:02:57,578 --> 01:02:59,744
to swim before-the sudden
temperature change of water
1252
01:02:59,746 --> 01:03:01,312
would give him a seizure
1253
01:03:01,314 --> 01:03:02,846
I put him in the front yard
and my neighbor's like,
1254
01:03:02,848 --> 01:03:04,948
oh my gosh, we've never seen
him in the front yard.'
1255
01:03:04,950 --> 01:03:07,231
They were so excited they
were cheering him on...
1256
01:03:10,388 --> 01:03:12,421
I started weaning him off
the medications after
1257
01:03:12,423 --> 01:03:15,357
one month I was on the CBD.
1258
01:03:16,693 --> 01:03:19,427
Every time I took him off,
he'd suffer for two weeks
1259
01:03:19,429 --> 01:03:21,295
he'd become more
human. Then take off
1260
01:03:21,297 --> 01:03:23,397
another pill, suffer for
two weeks, boom:
1261
01:03:23,399 --> 01:03:24,731
Become more human.
1262
01:03:25,433 --> 01:03:26,732
Jayden started chewing.
1263
01:03:26,734 --> 01:03:28,767
Jayden was only eating
Gerber food...
1264
01:03:28,768 --> 01:03:31,088
always till he was five years
old. He started chewing.
1265
01:03:31,871 --> 01:03:34,972
With taking 25,000 pills, it
really wears on your body
1266
01:03:34,974 --> 01:03:36,940
and brain, so it was kinda
recovering more from the
1267
01:03:36,942 --> 01:03:39,409
medication than from
the epilepsy.
1268
01:03:39,411 --> 01:03:41,744
And we decided to wean
off the hardest one:
1269
01:03:42,780 --> 01:03:44,379
Benzodiazepines.
1270
01:03:44,381 --> 01:03:50,283
He was having tremors,
nightmares, brain zaps;
1271
01:03:50,285 --> 01:03:53,452
I've contacted 30 different
benzo withdrawal clinics,
1272
01:03:53,454 --> 01:03:54,686
they go, 'how old
is the person
1273
01:03:54,688 --> 01:03:57,422
that you want to bring
into our clinic?'
1274
01:03:57,424 --> 01:03:59,624
I tell them, 'seven
years old' and they scream
1275
01:03:59,626 --> 01:04:02,593
at the top of their lungs -
every single one vividly
1276
01:04:02,595 --> 01:04:04,361
say the same exact thing:
1277
01:04:04,363 --> 01:04:06,563
'You have a seven
year old on benzos?
1278
01:04:06,565 --> 01:04:08,932
'Cause we have people here
that are football players,
1279
01:04:08,934 --> 01:04:11,234
we have people here that are
big, tough guys
1280
01:04:11,236 --> 01:04:12,802
that are dying,
literally dying,
1281
01:04:12,804 --> 01:04:14,837
from benzos and you have a
seven year old on it?
1282
01:04:14,839 --> 01:04:16,422
I said, 'seven year old?
I go,
1283
01:04:16,423 --> 01:04:18,704
'my son's been addicted to it
since he was 16 months old.'
1284
01:04:18,708 --> 01:04:21,442
So now we have to figure
out a way to wean him off
1285
01:04:21,444 --> 01:04:23,444
by ourselves because the
benzo detox clinics are not
1286
01:04:23,446 --> 01:04:26,480
are not willing to take in
a seven year old.
1287
01:04:26,482 --> 01:04:29,249
Since we've been using the
CBD's, he's been doing amazing.
1288
01:04:29,251 --> 01:04:32,885
It has under 1% THC,
so it doesn't give you
1289
01:04:32,887 --> 01:04:33,952
that euphoria.
1290
01:04:34,587 --> 01:04:36,520
It's abstracted,
1291
01:04:36,522 --> 01:04:39,022
it's organic, we know the
dosage in milligrams.
1292
01:04:40,358 --> 01:04:42,558
We're on the forefront
of something huge:
1293
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:46,595
It's either you're gonna give
up, and just and let your son,
1294
01:04:46,597 --> 01:04:49,030
your child, be a vegetable
and die or you're gonna
1295
01:04:49,032 --> 01:04:51,265
sit there and fight.
1296
01:04:51,267 --> 01:04:53,033
I still haven't met Jayden yet.
1297
01:04:53,035 --> 01:04:55,502
I know Jayden and 22 pills,
but I'm down to Jayden and
1298
01:04:55,504 --> 01:04:57,904
two pills-that's who
I know right now.
1299
01:04:59,274 --> 01:05:02,341
I don't know Jayden but
on medication.
1300
01:05:07,881 --> 01:05:09,981
Christmas before Jayden
was born-that was my
1301
01:05:09,983 --> 01:05:12,550
that Jayden
was gonna be born.
1302
01:05:12,552 --> 01:05:15,719
My ex-wife had given me
a box and I opened it
1303
01:05:15,721 --> 01:05:17,620
and I remember...
1304
01:05:19,857 --> 01:05:21,489
this is a
hard one...
1305
01:05:21,491 --> 01:05:23,174
I remember opening
the box and seeing
1306
01:05:23,175 --> 01:05:24,858
a pregnancy test saying
positive with two baby shoes
1307
01:05:24,861 --> 01:05:29,529
and having so much expectation,
you know?
1308
01:05:29,531 --> 01:05:32,597
Having so much expectation
that you're gonna have a son.
1309
01:05:34,767 --> 01:05:37,834
As a parent, you're expecting
your child to play football,
1310
01:05:37,836 --> 01:05:40,669
you're expecting your
child to talk you know?
1311
01:05:41,772 --> 01:05:43,838
I mean, right now, my
number one goal
1312
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,974
right now is to have my
son say I love you.
1313
01:05:45,976 --> 01:05:50,011
I mean people take that
for granted.
1314
01:05:53,149 --> 01:05:55,983
People take that for granted
that their kids can talk
1315
01:05:55,985 --> 01:05:57,784
and say I love you. That's all
I want to hear my son say,
1316
01:05:57,786 --> 01:06:00,419
but I mean if I can hear
him say that,
1317
01:06:00,421 --> 01:06:02,454
I'll be more than happy. He
said it one time on CNN:
1318
01:06:02,456 --> 01:06:04,376
I la loo. He was
really close!
1319
01:06:04,757 --> 01:06:07,124
I gotta hear it.
If he says that,
1320
01:06:07,126 --> 01:06:08,625
I've already conquered
the world.
1321
01:06:09,060 --> 01:06:10,593
Seeing your child suffer:
1322
01:06:10,594 --> 01:06:12,127
There's nothing worse
than that;
1323
01:06:12,128 --> 01:06:13,661
There's no torture
worse than that.
1324
01:06:13,664 --> 01:06:15,697
Especially every day.
1325
01:06:20,503 --> 01:06:24,137
Now is not the time to send
a message to our young
1326
01:06:24,139 --> 01:06:28,106
people that marijuana
is medicine. It is not.
1327
01:06:28,108 --> 01:06:31,542
It is a dangerous,
illegal drug.
1328
01:06:31,544 --> 01:06:33,977
Is it legitimate for any
human on the face of
1329
01:06:33,979 --> 01:06:37,213
planet earth to deny another
human the thing that
1330
01:06:37,215 --> 01:06:41,583
will remove him from
that infinite torture chamber?
1331
01:06:41,585 --> 01:06:44,619
No. It is
not acceptable.
1332
01:06:44,621 --> 01:06:48,755
It is utterly and
completely im-moral.
1333
01:06:48,757 --> 01:06:50,857
I'm not allowed to do this
1334
01:06:50,859 --> 01:06:52,758
because someone says I can't.
1335
01:06:53,961 --> 01:06:55,460
And that person
never met me,
1336
01:06:55,462 --> 01:06:57,618
they're never likely
to meet me...
1337
01:06:57,619 --> 01:06:59,775
they're never likely to
meet someone with MS,
1338
01:06:59,776 --> 01:07:01,932
Parkinson's, cancer-and yet
they can have total rule
1339
01:07:01,934 --> 01:07:04,467
over that entity's life.
1340
01:07:04,469 --> 01:07:05,801
This is pretty much
the only time
1341
01:07:05,803 --> 01:07:08,904
that I'm gonna be lost
for words. I just -
1342
01:07:08,906 --> 01:07:12,173
the justifications still not
been explained to me.
1343
01:07:13,009 --> 01:07:15,576
Should marijuana be
legalized for medical use?
1344
01:07:15,578 --> 01:07:18,078
Aren't there issues of
significance that you'd like
1345
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:22,082
to talk about? The economy,
the economy, the economy,
1346
01:07:22,084 --> 01:07:26,218
the growth of jobs, the need
to put people back to work
1347
01:07:26,220 --> 01:07:29,154
the challenges of Iran?
We've got enormous issues
1348
01:07:29,156 --> 01:07:31,589
that we face. But you wanna talk.
Go aheadyou wanna
1349
01:07:31,591 --> 01:07:32,656
talk about.
1350
01:07:32,658 --> 01:07:34,308
Medical marijuana
1351
01:07:34,309 --> 01:07:35,959
I think marijuana should not
be legal in this country
1352
01:07:35,961 --> 01:07:37,660
I believe it's a gateway drug...
1353
01:07:37,662 --> 01:07:41,597
Marijuana is still a
schedule I drug meaning
1354
01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:46,568
legally that it has no medical
usefulness whatsoever
1355
01:07:46,570 --> 01:07:50,905
and benzodiazepines like Valium
and Xanax and Klonopin
1356
01:07:50,907 --> 01:07:53,807
are are actually schedule IV
drugs even though they put
1357
01:07:53,809 --> 01:07:56,876
put significantly more
people in the emergency room
1358
01:07:56,878 --> 01:07:58,644
every year and cause
even more deaths
1359
01:07:58,646 --> 01:08:01,580
than many Schedule I drugs.
1360
01:08:01,582 --> 01:08:04,783
Many attempts have been made
to move cannabis
1361
01:08:04,785 --> 01:08:07,886
out of of Schedule I
and ...they always fail.
1362
01:08:07,888 --> 01:08:10,188
How can the United States
government claim that there's
1363
01:08:10,190 --> 01:08:12,957
no medical usefulness to
cannabis while then patenting
1364
01:08:12,959 --> 01:08:14,992
the medical usefulness
of cannabis?
1365
01:08:14,994 --> 01:08:17,527
It was a shocking idea that
the federal government-
1366
01:08:17,529 --> 01:08:20,196
the Department of Health
and Human Services
1367
01:08:20,198 --> 01:08:22,831
had a patent on cannabinoids
as antioxidants and
1368
01:08:22,833 --> 01:08:25,166
neuroprotectants, heart
disease and diabetes,
1369
01:08:25,168 --> 01:08:29,170
Alzheimer's and Huntington's,
and includes cataracts and.
1370
01:08:29,172 --> 01:08:33,774
Down's syndrome as well as
neoplasia. It really speaks
1371
01:08:33,776 --> 01:08:36,610
to the depth of the problem
in terms of who's making
1372
01:08:36,612 --> 01:08:39,045
these decisions and
who are they benefitting?
1373
01:08:39,047 --> 01:08:40,980
We need to get to the truth
which is that
1374
01:08:40,982 --> 01:08:44,950
prescription drugs kill
vast numbers of people.
1375
01:08:44,952 --> 01:08:48,887
Prescription drugs have a
higher rate of overdose
1376
01:08:48,889 --> 01:08:51,322
than even things we think of
as being horrific like
1377
01:08:51,324 --> 01:08:53,957
methamphetamine, heroin...
1378
01:08:54,092 --> 01:08:56,058
The number of people who
are killed by heroin and
1379
01:08:56,060 --> 01:09:01,896
cocaine is tiny, tiny, just
miniscule, microscopic
1380
01:09:01,898 --> 01:09:03,931
by comparison with the number
of people who are killed
1381
01:09:03,933 --> 01:09:06,800
every year by prescriptiondrugs. Let's look at the facts;
1382
01:09:06,802 --> 01:09:10,003
Let's not listen
to the bullshit anymore.
1383
01:09:10,005 --> 01:09:13,006
Suspected drug overdoses
are rising at an alarming
1384
01:09:13,008 --> 01:09:14,941
rate in Haywood County.
1385
01:09:14,942 --> 01:09:16,875
And it's not illegal drugs
officials are worried about
1386
01:09:16,878 --> 01:09:19,211
but prescription drugs.
1387
01:09:19,213 --> 01:09:21,613
It's being described as an
epidemic. Authorities say
1388
01:09:21,615 --> 01:09:24,983
too many young people are
dying accidental deaths.
1389
01:09:24,985 --> 01:09:27,852
The fifth or sixth top selling
drugs in North America
1390
01:09:27,854 --> 01:09:30,988
are antipsychotics which
we're giving out like candy
1391
01:09:30,990 --> 01:09:33,156
now to people,
including children.
1392
01:09:33,925 --> 01:09:36,625
At Vancouver's Children's
Hospital they've had to
1393
01:09:36,627 --> 01:09:38,693
establish a special clinic
just to deal with the
1394
01:09:38,695 --> 01:09:40,628
effects of antipsychotics
in kids.
1395
01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:43,964
I recently lost my father
two years ago and we were
1396
01:09:43,966 --> 01:09:47,634
really close and so it was
like having the rug pulled
1397
01:09:47,636 --> 01:09:50,770
out from underneath me and I
started to see a therapist
1398
01:09:50,772 --> 01:09:53,939
and a psychiatrist because I
was experiencing these
1399
01:09:53,941 --> 01:09:57,208
panic attacks and at least
fifteen medications
1400
01:09:57,210 --> 01:09:59,427
I was written, you know,
1401
01:09:59,428 --> 01:10:01,645
within two minutes of meeting,
one of the psychiatrists
1402
01:10:01,647 --> 01:10:05,281
she called me bipolar II and
wrote a diagnosis of it
1403
01:10:05,283 --> 01:10:08,050
without even knowing me,
you know?
1404
01:10:08,052 --> 01:10:09,851
What I really needed was
a fuckin' hug.
1405
01:10:09,853 --> 01:10:13,287
In 2010, doctors prescribed
enough painkillers to give
1406
01:10:13,289 --> 01:10:16,923
45 milligram Percocets
and 245-milligram Vicodins
1407
01:10:16,925 --> 01:10:20,092
to every person
in the United States.
1408
01:10:20,928 --> 01:10:25,096
It's a huge industry creating
pills for us to take.
1409
01:10:25,098 --> 01:10:27,932
Most of the time, they're
not really anything that's
1410
01:10:27,934 --> 01:10:30,634
curing you, they're just
suppressing whatever your
1411
01:10:30,636 --> 01:10:34,938
ailment is and in some
cases making it worse.
1412
01:10:34,940 --> 01:10:36,940
In depressed patients,
worsening of depression
1413
01:10:36,942 --> 01:10:39,075
including risk of suicide
may occur.
1414
01:10:39,077 --> 01:10:41,644
Sometimes fatal events
including infections
1415
01:10:41,646 --> 01:10:43,912
tuberculosis, lymphoma,
other cancers.
1416
01:10:43,914 --> 01:10:46,147
Blisters, peeling rashes,
hives or mouth sores.
1417
01:10:46,149 --> 01:10:48,015
Nervous system and
blood disorders
1418
01:10:48,017 --> 01:10:50,097
and allergic reactions
have occurred.
1419
01:10:51,052 --> 01:10:54,987
The makers of OxyContin
have marketed it as a
1420
01:10:54,989 --> 01:10:59,324
non- or less-addictive
opiate, knowing already
1421
01:10:59,326 --> 01:11:02,894
that this wasn't true. They
simply suppressed that research.
1422
01:11:02,896 --> 01:11:05,930
Hundreds of overdose deaths.
They plea-bargained and
1423
01:11:05,932 --> 01:11:08,332
they agreed to pay fines.
Well, they could pay that
1424
01:11:08,334 --> 01:11:12,435
out of their left hip
pocket. Nobody went to jail,
1425
01:11:12,437 --> 01:11:15,171
nobody suffered any
criminal consequences.
1426
01:11:15,173 --> 01:11:17,239
If you read the small print,
you'll find that there's
1427
01:11:17,241 --> 01:11:19,341
side-effects to certain drugs
but you've got to really
1428
01:11:19,343 --> 01:11:21,793
get your microscope out.
1429
01:11:21,794 --> 01:11:24,244
I see this all the time with
friends-even with peers-
1430
01:11:24,247 --> 01:11:27,715
where they carry a diagnosis
and they can't pronounce it.
1431
01:11:27,717 --> 01:11:30,384
They don't know what the
disease they have is called.
1432
01:11:30,386 --> 01:11:33,120
They take drugs and they don't
know what the medication is
1433
01:11:33,122 --> 01:11:36,123
or what it could potentially
do to their body.
1434
01:11:36,125 --> 01:11:38,925
All kinda pills and
medicine and bullshit that
1435
01:11:38,927 --> 01:11:41,761
they can't pronounce;
Makin' money off your ass.
1436
01:11:41,763 --> 01:11:43,796
Fuckin' you up with more
medicine than you need.
1437
01:11:43,798 --> 01:11:46,031
There's people strung out
on those pills, man.
1438
01:11:46,033 --> 01:11:48,867
Chief medical examiner Glenn
Wagner says he's noticed
1439
01:11:48,869 --> 01:11:51,336
a big rise in the quantity
of different drugs
1440
01:11:51,338 --> 01:11:54,389
people are taking.
1441
01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:57,441
This shopping bag represents
one individual and the
1442
01:11:57,443 --> 01:12:02,112
number of drugs that that
person had onboard.
1443
01:12:08,753 --> 01:12:12,221
There are 19 separate lines
on this one and it
1444
01:12:12,223 --> 01:12:13,956
goes for several pages.
1445
01:12:13,958 --> 01:12:16,391
People don't look at them
as drugs anymore when
1446
01:12:16,393 --> 01:12:19,293
they're legal-when they're
over the counter. They just
1447
01:12:19,295 --> 01:12:21,962
look at it as somethin' you
can buy from the store and
1448
01:12:21,964 --> 01:12:24,464
put in your body, but
it's still a drug.
1449
01:12:24,466 --> 01:12:29,068
Unintentional deaths from
one dies
1450
01:12:29,070 --> 01:12:33,739
- one American dies.
- Every 19 minutes.
1451
01:12:33,741 --> 01:12:37,008
Nothing comparable in
marijuana. Is that correct?
1452
01:12:37,010 --> 01:12:39,227
Correct.
1453
01:12:39,228 --> 01:12:41,445
Well, when you've got a
drug that costs a billion
1454
01:12:41,447 --> 01:12:44,347
dollars to bring to market,
your investment is so
1455
01:12:44,349 --> 01:12:49,317
huge that you have to do
everything in your power
1456
01:12:49,319 --> 01:12:53,187
to make sure that drug
succeeds and sometimes the
1457
01:12:53,189 --> 01:12:56,089
things that you do
are troubling.
1458
01:12:56,091 --> 01:12:59,826
There are some pharmaceutical
products today that are
1459
01:12:59,828 --> 01:13:04,463
in short demand because the
profit margin isn't big enough.
1460
01:13:04,465 --> 01:13:06,965
Just how tough is it to
find the flu shot, Jocelyn?
1461
01:13:06,967 --> 01:13:09,334
Sonia, Darren, you'll have to
make a couple of calls,
1462
01:13:09,336 --> 01:13:12,470
and those that do have it
only have a limited supply.
1463
01:13:12,472 --> 01:13:15,306
I mean, this happens every year
when there's a bad flu
1464
01:13:15,308 --> 01:13:17,541
and there's shortages of
vaccines, right, because
1465
01:13:17,543 --> 01:13:21,011
there's not really a big profit
motive tied to flu vaccines
1466
01:13:21,013 --> 01:13:24,014
it's a single dose and you
move on. Unlike something
1467
01:13:24,016 --> 01:13:27,951
like Viagra or especially
things like cholesterol
1468
01:13:27,953 --> 01:13:31,087
medication, heart medication.
Maintenance medications
1469
01:13:31,089 --> 01:13:32,922
that people who are ill
have to stay on
1470
01:13:32,924 --> 01:13:35,024
in order to live normal lives.
1471
01:13:35,226 --> 01:13:38,961
If you don't need that
medication, you don't need them
1472
01:13:38,963 --> 01:13:41,463
they take a dent in the
pockets, you know what I mean;
1473
01:13:41,465 --> 01:13:45,200
Those are very deep pockets and
they don't want 'em dented.
1474
01:13:45,202 --> 01:13:49,170
So every night on TV you see
a weird-ass drug commercial
1475
01:13:49,172 --> 01:13:52,940
tryin' to get you hooked
on some legal shit
1476
01:13:52,942 --> 01:13:55,909
and they just keep naming
symptoms till they get one that
1477
01:13:55,911 --> 01:13:59,512
you've fucking got! Got
athlete's foot? Are ya hot?
1478
01:13:59,514 --> 01:14:03,249
Are ya cold? Whatcha got?
You want this pill
1479
01:14:03,251 --> 01:14:06,452
huh, motherfucker? Ya got
to take this pill!
1480
01:14:06,454 --> 01:14:09,254
Prescription drugs being
advertised and marketed
1481
01:14:09,256 --> 01:14:12,123
on television is certainly
something that's happened
1482
01:14:12,125 --> 01:14:14,959
in my lifetime
as a physician.
1483
01:14:14,961 --> 01:14:17,494
They're saying things like
'ask your doctor if
1484
01:14:17,496 --> 01:14:19,229
this drug is right for you.'
1485
01:14:19,231 --> 01:14:21,264
Ask your doctor if Humira
can work for you...
1486
01:14:21,266 --> 01:14:23,866
Ask your doctor if Lunesta
is right for you.
1487
01:14:23,868 --> 01:14:26,301
Ask your doctor about
Cymbalta.
1488
01:14:26,303 --> 01:14:29,470
Do you get a weird pain in
your bowel? Well then you
1489
01:14:29,472 --> 01:14:31,371
need to go to a doctor and
you need to tell him that
1490
01:14:31,373 --> 01:14:34,273
this is the drug you need.
So hurry up! There's your
1491
01:14:34,275 --> 01:14:36,608
check, there's my prescription,
it's a transaction.
1492
01:14:36,610 --> 01:14:40,311
I'm not a drug addict! How
dare you? I'm a patient.
1493
01:14:40,313 --> 01:14:43,914
In every other industrialized
Western country, you don't
1494
01:14:43,916 --> 01:14:46,349
see ads for drugs. You go
to your doctor, you tell
1495
01:14:46,351 --> 01:14:48,551
your doctor what you're
dealing with, they're well-
1496
01:14:48,553 --> 01:14:50,619
informed about the drugs that
are on the market and they
1497
01:14:50,621 --> 01:14:52,854
make a recommendation for you.
1498
01:14:52,856 --> 01:14:54,622
I remember these commercials
and they looked so happy
1499
01:14:54,624 --> 01:14:57,858
and I remember thinking, oh
my God, there's a pill that
1500
01:14:57,860 --> 01:14:59,560
you can take to make
yourself happy?
1501
01:14:59,562 --> 01:15:01,602
Like how fucking awesome
would that be?
1502
01:15:02,464 --> 01:15:05,998
If you got somebody makin'
a commercial sayin',
1503
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:07,522
oh, do you have these
problems,
1504
01:15:07,523 --> 01:15:09,045
do you have these problems?
1505
01:15:09,046 --> 01:15:10,568
You're gonna relate to it
like, oh yeah, that is me!
1506
01:15:10,571 --> 01:15:12,654
Maybe I do need that.
1507
01:15:12,655 --> 01:15:14,738
It's really frustrating to me
that as a society we
1508
01:15:14,741 --> 01:15:18,042
don't know better at this point.
They're telling you
1509
01:15:18,044 --> 01:15:21,478
that you can take this
medicine, but risk literally
1510
01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:23,480
killing yourself to do it!
1511
01:15:23,482 --> 01:15:28,150
For me, it reinforces our
cultural belief that if you
1512
01:15:28,152 --> 01:15:31,253
go to a doctor, if you
don't get a prescription,
1513
01:15:31,255 --> 01:15:33,388
you haven't really had
a valid encounter.
1514
01:15:33,390 --> 01:15:36,057
One study by a British
medical journal found that
1515
01:15:36,059 --> 01:15:38,325
for every dollar that
pharmaceutical companies spent
1516
01:15:38,327 --> 01:15:40,694
on R and D -research
& development-they spend
1517
01:15:40,696 --> 01:15:44,164
19 dollars on promotion and
marketing of their drugs.
1518
01:15:44,166 --> 01:15:46,766
If I go to my doctor and I say,
'I saw this ad for this drug;
1519
01:15:46,768 --> 01:15:49,135
I really would like
to try it, ' and he
1520
01:15:49,137 --> 01:15:51,237
says, 'yeah, let's give it
a shot, ' is he my doctor,
1521
01:15:51,239 --> 01:15:53,372
or is he my drug dealer?
1522
01:15:54,074 --> 01:15:55,440
They form groups like.
1523
01:15:55,442 --> 01:15:57,175
Partnership for a
Drug Free America
1524
01:15:57,177 --> 01:15:59,110
where they get their
fucking money
1525
01:15:59,112 --> 01:16:00,361
from prescription drugs!
1526
01:16:00,362 --> 01:16:02,162
I wish you didn't
smoke weed.
1527
01:16:04,316 --> 01:16:08,284
You're not the same when you
smoke, and I miss my friend.
1528
01:16:08,419 --> 01:16:11,453
Prescription drugs making
1529
01:16:11,455 --> 01:16:13,721
commercials against weed
is like hookers making
1530
01:16:13,723 --> 01:16:16,323
commercials against
strippers, I mean that's...
1531
01:16:16,325 --> 01:16:18,024
(it would of been better if
I didn't stumble through
1532
01:16:18,026 --> 01:16:20,593
(the word commercial),
but that's what it is!
1533
01:16:20,595 --> 01:16:23,329
Guess what. All of the big
drug companies have used
1534
01:16:23,331 --> 01:16:26,498
corruption in North America
for at least 50 years.
1535
01:16:26,500 --> 01:16:29,667
If you were a doctor, they
will come to you and say,
1536
01:16:29,669 --> 01:16:33,370
I will pay you to participate
in a conference
1537
01:16:33,372 --> 01:16:35,805
on the phone-it will only take
a half an hour of your time.
1538
01:16:35,807 --> 01:16:40,242
Well, guess what theconference is. It is a drug
1539
01:16:40,244 --> 01:16:45,446
company salesman sellingyou on the latest drug
1540
01:16:45,448 --> 01:16:48,782
to influence you to prescribe
that drug the next time
1541
01:16:48,784 --> 01:16:51,651
a patient comes into your
office. How are you gonna feel?
1542
01:16:51,653 --> 01:16:54,487
You feel gratitude
and your gratitude
1543
01:16:54,489 --> 01:16:57,223
influences your decisions.
Nothing should influence
1544
01:16:57,225 --> 01:17:00,659
your decision but what is
best for a patient.
1545
01:17:01,194 --> 01:17:04,361
There are pros to having a
capitalist endeavor.
1546
01:17:04,363 --> 01:17:07,063
There may be drugs on
the market that never would
1547
01:17:07,065 --> 01:17:09,698
have been available because
that profit motive wasn't
1548
01:17:09,700 --> 01:17:12,734
pushing these pharmaceutical
companies to try
1549
01:17:12,736 --> 01:17:16,137
and develop those new drugs.
The problem is that it's
1550
01:17:16,139 --> 01:17:19,840
it's not really a free
there's, like, a small
1551
01:17:19,842 --> 01:17:22,175
percentage of pharmaceutical
companies that are really
1552
01:17:22,177 --> 01:17:25,578
propped up by our Congress
people because they have
1553
01:17:25,580 --> 01:17:27,346
huge lobbies supporting them.
1554
01:17:27,348 --> 01:17:31,350
I recently received a
notification of the top 100
1555
01:17:31,352 --> 01:17:33,719
pharmaceutical drugs and
how much they made a year
1556
01:17:33,721 --> 01:17:36,188
and you see exactly what all
the frenzy is about.
1557
01:17:36,190 --> 01:17:39,291
In 2012, the top-11
global drug companies
1558
01:17:39,293 --> 01:17:44,128
made nearly 85 billion dollars
in net profits.
1559
01:17:44,463 --> 01:17:48,498
Just an ungodly amount of
money for medicines that
1560
01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:52,201
many of which my patients
have been able to stop with
1561
01:17:52,203 --> 01:17:55,270
something that can grow
in their backyard.
1562
01:17:55,405 --> 01:17:58,205
Now, look, I was in bed
for fifteen years with an
1563
01:17:58,207 --> 01:18:02,175
extremely serious illness.
I believe in the importance
1564
01:18:02,177 --> 01:18:06,212
of the major drug companies.
Does that mean I believe
1565
01:18:06,214 --> 01:18:11,450
in their right to push
research that they've paid for
1566
01:18:11,452 --> 01:18:15,587
into peer-reviewed journals
and to prevent research
1567
01:18:15,589 --> 01:18:18,690
that tends to indicate that
their drugs don't work?
1568
01:18:18,692 --> 01:18:20,825
There's a case to be made for
these pharmaceuticals
1569
01:18:20,827 --> 01:18:23,194
there's the appropriate use
of all kinds of medications
1570
01:18:23,196 --> 01:18:26,597
including antidepressants,
including antipsychotics,
1571
01:18:26,599 --> 01:18:29,366
but it's hard to make a
rational case for the use
1572
01:18:29,368 --> 01:18:32,202
to the extent that they're
employed in today's society.
1573
01:18:32,204 --> 01:18:35,872
So, once more, we're faced
with the arbitrariness of
1574
01:18:35,874 --> 01:18:37,540
what we consider to be
1575
01:18:37,542 --> 01:18:39,575
acceptable and what is
1576
01:18:39,577 --> 01:18:40,576
unacceptable.
1577
01:18:42,813 --> 01:18:43,912
This seems
to be information
1578
01:18:43,914 --> 01:18:46,681
that society could benefit from.
1579
01:18:47,450 --> 01:18:48,849
But how has this vital
knowledge managed
1580
01:18:48,851 --> 01:18:51,751
to fly under radars for so long?
1581
01:18:52,253 --> 01:18:53,885
Why are these issues
not making their way
1582
01:18:53,887 --> 01:18:56,420
to the forefront of concern
in our news?
1583
01:18:56,588 --> 01:18:58,788
So a lot of people make the
mistake of thinking that
1584
01:18:58,790 --> 01:19:02,224
the news stations are gonna
cover things in the order
1585
01:19:02,226 --> 01:19:04,926
of importance, but in realitythey cover them
1586
01:19:04,928 --> 01:19:08,362
in the order of ratings.
So if Justin Bieber
1587
01:19:08,364 --> 01:19:09,429
is gonna give you the
best ratings,
1588
01:19:09,431 --> 01:19:11,330
they're gonna go first.
1589
01:19:11,332 --> 01:19:13,265
Congressman, let me interrupt
you just for a moment.
1590
01:19:13,267 --> 01:19:15,667
We've got some breaking
news out of Miami-stand by
1591
01:19:15,669 --> 01:19:19,437
if you will. Right now, in
Miami, Justin Bieber has
1592
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,672
has been arrested on a
number of charges.
1593
01:19:21,674 --> 01:19:23,707
You gotta sell whatever it is
that wants to advertise
1594
01:19:23,709 --> 01:19:26,609
on your show and if your
show is getting shitty ratings,
1595
01:19:26,611 --> 01:19:29,178
they're gonna replace you
with a chick with big tits.
1596
01:19:29,180 --> 01:19:30,779
Hey, starting the news
off tonight:
1597
01:19:30,781 --> 01:19:33,581
A motherfucker killed
three people. We got my guy.
1598
01:19:33,583 --> 01:19:35,482
Hal Fishman standing outside
right now. Hal, what's going on?
1599
01:19:35,484 --> 01:19:37,817
'Yeah, the nigga
shot three people'
1600
01:19:37,819 --> 01:19:40,486
and blah, blah, blah.
That's more attractive!
1601
01:19:40,488 --> 01:19:42,321
Yeah, I don't watch the news;
The news is fuckin' depressing.
1602
01:19:42,323 --> 01:19:46,324
They pick the worst shit
to follow
1603
01:19:46,326 --> 01:19:47,858
for a long-ass amount of time.
1604
01:19:47,860 --> 01:19:49,826
You think they give a
fuck if Barack Obama was
1605
01:19:49,828 --> 01:19:52,461
born in Kenya? They doif it's a good story.
1606
01:19:52,463 --> 01:19:53,895
Because it means that two
million people are gonna
1607
01:19:53,897 --> 01:19:55,763
tune in instead
of 600,000.
1608
01:19:55,765 --> 01:19:56,864
Then you get people
coming out saying,
1609
01:19:56,866 --> 01:19:58,565
'well, what about
nuclear bombs?
1610
01:19:58,567 --> 01:20:01,301
That's a good point! We'll
be back after this.'
1611
01:20:01,303 --> 01:20:03,569
They're gonna be able to sell
advertisement for X-amount
1612
01:20:03,571 --> 01:20:04,870
of money instead of W.
1613
01:20:04,872 --> 01:20:06,905
That kinda shit happens
everyday all day
1614
01:20:06,907 --> 01:20:09,374
it's just a matter of which
one do they want to put
1615
01:20:09,376 --> 01:20:10,408
the most attention on?
1616
01:20:10,410 --> 01:20:12,510
There's skydiving cats!
1617
01:20:12,512 --> 01:20:14,945
¶ I believe I can fly..¶
1618
01:20:20,585 --> 01:20:23,719
In all that froth, I think
serious debate around
1619
01:20:23,721 --> 01:20:26,722
key policy issues
often gets lost.
1620
01:20:26,724 --> 01:20:28,323
That's the problem with
current affairs!
1621
01:20:28,325 --> 01:20:30,625
You forget about what's
important and you allow the
1622
01:20:30,627 --> 01:20:33,661
agenda to be decided by
superficial information.
1623
01:20:33,663 --> 01:20:35,462
Everybody cares about
the advertisers.
1624
01:20:35,464 --> 01:20:37,263
They care a
tremendous amount.
1625
01:20:37,265 --> 01:20:39,431
If you're gonna do a story
that affects the advertisers,
1626
01:20:39,433 --> 01:20:42,834
you will get a call from
management. Now, it doesn't
1627
01:20:42,836 --> 01:20:46,404
mean you can't do the story
although there is heavy
1628
01:20:46,406 --> 01:20:49,540
pressure to shift
priorities within the story.
1629
01:20:49,542 --> 01:20:52,609
It's fucking ridiculous!
Puttin' makeup on
1630
01:20:52,611 --> 01:20:54,711
and pretending they're not
reading off a script that's
1631
01:20:54,713 --> 01:20:58,481
corporate approved. They
have a very specific set of
1632
01:20:58,483 --> 01:21:00,950
parameters that they're
supposed to fall into.
1633
01:21:00,952 --> 01:21:03,786
It's OK, you can admit it if
you've bought an item or
1634
01:21:03,788 --> 01:21:05,988
two or ten for yourself.
1635
01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:08,690
It's OK, you can admit it if
you've bought an item or
1636
01:21:08,692 --> 01:21:11,659
two or maybe...
ten for yourself...
1637
01:21:11,661 --> 01:21:14,028
It's OK, you can admit it if
you've bought an item or
1638
01:21:14,030 --> 01:21:15,963
two or ten for yourself.
1639
01:21:20,602 --> 01:21:24,270
Originally, when TV first
started, news was seen as
1640
01:21:24,272 --> 01:21:25,971
something that was a
public service so that you
1641
01:21:25,973 --> 01:21:28,506
informed the American
people. The deal was:
1642
01:21:28,508 --> 01:21:31,575
You give us news and we give
you the public airwaves
1643
01:21:31,577 --> 01:21:33,977
and then at some point along
the lines, the TV stations
1644
01:21:33,979 --> 01:21:36,813
forgot that they weren'tsupposed to make money off
1645
01:21:36,815 --> 01:21:38,981
the news and then a second
thing kicked in that's
1646
01:21:38,983 --> 01:21:41,750
they
realized whenever they did
1647
01:21:41,752 --> 01:21:43,585
investigative reporting,
they would uncover something
1648
01:21:43,587 --> 01:21:45,353
that the government was
doing wrong and it'd be
1649
01:21:45,355 --> 01:21:47,005
a giant hassle.
1650
01:21:47,006 --> 01:21:48,656
You're supposed to question
authority as a journalist.
1651
01:21:48,658 --> 01:21:50,524
That's the whole point
of the media.
1652
01:21:50,526 --> 01:21:52,859
If you don't question
authority, then what the hell
1653
01:21:52,861 --> 01:21:57,029
is the point? CNN just got
rid of its investigative team.
1654
01:21:57,031 --> 01:21:59,831
When I was at MSNBC, I
looked for an investigative
1655
01:21:59,833 --> 01:22:01,966
reporter to do some of
the stories that I wanted
1656
01:22:01,968 --> 01:22:04,568
to cover and they said,
'there isn't one in the
1657
01:22:04,570 --> 01:22:07,737
building.' So I got this
amazing speech from the
1658
01:22:07,739 --> 01:22:10,806
head of the network who
said, 'look, outsiders are
1659
01:22:10,808 --> 01:22:13,441
they wear
leather jackets and
1660
01:22:13,443 --> 01:22:15,843
they ride motorcycles, ' he said,
'but, we're insiders here
1661
01:22:15,845 --> 01:22:18,645
at NBC; We're part of the
establishment and you have to
1662
01:22:18,647 --> 01:22:20,713
act like it.' He wastelling me that he had just
1663
01:22:20,715 --> 01:22:23,816
gone to Washington and they
were not happy with my tone.
1664
01:22:23,818 --> 01:22:26,318
Do you think all these
corporations and rich folks
1665
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,853
are spending money on politics
because it's not good
1666
01:22:28,855 --> 01:22:31,989
for business? No! Obviously
they think it's a great
1667
01:22:31,991 --> 01:22:33,857
investment for them.
1668
01:22:33,859 --> 01:22:37,093
I was challenging the
Republicans and the Democrats
1669
01:22:37,095 --> 01:22:38,778
too much.
1670
01:22:38,779 --> 01:22:40,462
How about if we didn't go
into that dumbass war in
1671
01:22:40,465 --> 01:22:44,066
Iraq and waste a trillion
dollars when we found
1672
01:22:44,068 --> 01:22:45,834
zero weapons of mass
destruction. You flushed
1673
01:22:45,836 --> 01:22:47,236
that down the toilet!
1674
01:22:47,237 --> 01:22:48,637
We're talking social
security not your politics!
1675
01:22:48,638 --> 01:22:50,038
And now you're talking about
robbing people's social security!
1676
01:22:50,039 --> 01:22:51,439
That is
outrageous!
1677
01:22:51,441 --> 01:22:53,707
Not your contempt for
America, we're talking about
1678
01:22:53,709 --> 01:22:55,109
social security.
Stick to the topic!
1679
01:22:55,110 --> 01:22:57,977
Contempt for America? You
lost 4400 American lives
1680
01:22:57,979 --> 01:23:00,579
in Iraq! You have
contempt for America!
1681
01:23:00,581 --> 01:23:03,748
I remember taking
several guests to task
1682
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:07,051
saying all of our politiciansare systematically corrupt.
1683
01:23:07,053 --> 01:23:10,721
They get legalized
bribes which we
1684
01:23:10,723 --> 01:23:13,757
call donations. We've forgot-
tten that they're in essence
1685
01:23:13,759 --> 01:23:16,426
just bribes. Who's gonna
give you money for nothing?
1686
01:23:16,428 --> 01:23:18,528
No one right? They're gonna
give you money so that
1687
01:23:18,530 --> 01:23:21,864
you do them a favor. Everytime I would point that out
1688
01:23:21,866 --> 01:23:24,032
there'd again be a call
from management like,
1689
01:23:24,034 --> 01:23:26,634
'hey, we're not saying you can't
do that. On the other hand
1690
01:23:26,636 --> 01:23:28,602
if you'd like to keep
the six o'clock slot...'
1691
01:23:28,604 --> 01:23:30,403
But in that one meeting
that I had
1692
01:23:30,405 --> 01:23:32,739
with the head of of the network,
it was no longer implicit.
1693
01:23:32,741 --> 01:23:34,540
It was explicit and he said,
1694
01:23:34,542 --> 01:23:37,543
'this is the reality
and you either get back in line
1695
01:23:37,545 --> 01:23:39,578
or we go in a
different direction.'
1696
01:23:39,580 --> 01:23:41,212
If anything, I went
harder after the establishment
1697
01:23:41,214 --> 01:23:42,646
after that.
1698
01:23:42,648 --> 01:23:45,548
They sucked
so much money out of the
1699
01:23:45,550 --> 01:23:48,684
system that we had one of
the largest economic crashes
1700
01:23:48,686 --> 01:23:52,087
of all time and they're
not even done yet!
1701
01:23:52,089 --> 01:23:54,589
And then, a couple months
later, they called me in
1702
01:23:54,591 --> 01:23:56,223
and they're like, 'apparently
you didn't get it!'
1703
01:23:56,225 --> 01:23:59,526
So, you were at six o'clock;
We're moving you
1704
01:23:59,528 --> 01:24:00,693
from six o'clock to the
weekends;
1705
01:24:00,695 --> 01:24:02,828
We're gonna pay you
a ton of money
1706
01:24:02,829 --> 01:24:04,962
so hush up' and
I said thanks but no thanks.
1707
01:24:04,965 --> 01:24:07,899
I didn't take the weekend
job and I went back to
1708
01:24:07,901 --> 01:24:09,901
do the Young Turks online.
1709
01:24:10,803 --> 01:24:12,536
We have three branches of
government,
1710
01:24:12,538 --> 01:24:14,104
and those three branches are
supposed to be part
1711
01:24:14,106 --> 01:24:16,873
of the checks and balances
that make the government work.
1712
01:24:17,675 --> 01:24:20,676
The media and journalists are a
huge part of that. I mean,
1713
01:24:20,678 --> 01:24:22,244
you think Americans are
complacent now?
1714
01:24:22,246 --> 01:24:24,813
They'll be even more complacent
if they're not given
1715
01:24:24,815 --> 01:24:28,116
the information they need
to be politically active.
1716
01:24:37,559 --> 01:24:39,225
Drama works on television.
1717
01:24:39,227 --> 01:24:41,827
Now, in the world of
politics, the soap opera is.
1718
01:24:41,829 --> 01:24:45,096
Democrats versus Republicans.
It's not who's right
1719
01:24:45,098 --> 01:24:49,966
in terms of the policies or
ideology. What is easy is:
1720
01:24:49,968 --> 01:24:53,169
He said this, she said
that; Isn't that amazing?
1721
01:24:53,171 --> 01:24:55,304
Look at the Democrats and
Republicans, they're always
1722
01:24:55,306 --> 01:24:57,539
fighting... oh no, look at this:
the Republicans are
1723
01:24:57,541 --> 01:25:00,041
fighting amongst themselves.
Catfights sell.
1724
01:25:00,043 --> 01:25:01,976
Which is why you have the
red team and the blue team,
1725
01:25:01,978 --> 01:25:04,645
you know, all over the world
it's red team-blue team.
1726
01:25:04,647 --> 01:25:06,213
And they have these rigid
ideologies that are
1727
01:25:06,215 --> 01:25:08,949
associated with these teams
and they just run with it.
1728
01:25:08,951 --> 01:25:11,685
Find a place where you are
surrounded by like-minded
1729
01:25:11,687 --> 01:25:13,853
people and the best way
to find those people is you
1730
01:25:13,855 --> 01:25:19,191
should probably look at the
maps on how counties voted.
1731
01:25:19,193 --> 01:25:22,093
We think it's a bunch of
ideas about how the world
1732
01:25:22,095 --> 01:25:25,329
works and how we can make itbetter. Sorry, that's not
1733
01:25:25,331 --> 01:25:29,333
really what it is. Ideas area badge of identity
1734
01:25:29,335 --> 01:25:32,002
they're a badge of identity
for a subculture.
1735
01:25:32,004 --> 01:25:35,805
It's my group versus your
group and I will make damn
1736
01:25:35,807 --> 01:25:39,708
sure that my representative
represents my badge of
1737
01:25:39,710 --> 01:25:44,812
identity, my group's supposed
ideas, the ones that
1738
01:25:44,814 --> 01:25:51,351
represent my group's uniform
not your group's uniform.
1739
01:25:51,353 --> 01:25:54,287
And there's a lot of seemingly
intelligent people
1740
01:25:54,289 --> 01:25:57,890
that have ridiculous ideas
that are cleverly worded
1741
01:25:57,892 --> 01:26:00,325
in a nice flowing
and confident way
1742
01:26:00,327 --> 01:26:02,226
that makes you think that what
they're saying makes sense.
1743
01:26:02,228 --> 01:26:06,696
A lot of work gets done on
tobacco whereas drugs
1744
01:26:06,698 --> 01:26:09,999
are pretty much specifically
just to get high.
1745
01:26:10,001 --> 01:26:11,700
It's not, I'm enjoying-
1746
01:26:11,702 --> 01:26:14,135
But a lot of people drink
to get high...
1747
01:26:14,137 --> 01:26:17,071
Yeah, but that's more of
a subsidiary point.
1748
01:26:17,073 --> 01:26:19,339
People are not openly
discussing anything,
1749
01:26:19,341 --> 01:26:22,075
they're just defending points
of view and in defending
1750
01:26:22,077 --> 01:26:24,811
points of view,
they're defending their egos.
1751
01:26:24,813 --> 01:26:27,680
Which means they're expressing
the ideas that they think
1752
01:26:27,682 --> 01:26:32,951
others want to hear. Which
means they're not thinking!
1753
01:26:32,953 --> 01:26:35,853
So, you can present the facts
to people, but the facts
1754
01:26:35,855 --> 01:26:38,255
won't penetrate because
it's not about facts,
1755
01:26:38,257 --> 01:26:40,690
it's about opinions they have
to hold onto
1756
01:26:40,692 --> 01:26:42,925
in order to feel okay
about themselves.
1757
01:26:42,927 --> 01:26:45,093
Potheads that I knew at
that time, when I see 'em:
1758
01:26:45,095 --> 01:26:48,963
'Hey man, hey bro, hey what's
that? What's going on?'
1759
01:26:48,965 --> 01:26:52,132
Every one of 'em are brain
dead! It's fact.
1760
01:26:52,134 --> 01:26:54,200
Everyone that I know in my
long history of life,
1761
01:26:54,202 --> 01:26:58,237
everyone that was a pot smoker,
their brains are defuncitated!
1762
01:26:58,239 --> 01:27:01,006
Fox News, as we've known
for a long time,
1763
01:27:01,008 --> 01:27:03,842
does Republican propaganda.
Unfortunately, MSNBC
1764
01:27:03,844 --> 01:27:07,278
has now come to largely do
Democratic propaganda.
1765
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:11,215
CNN does propaganda for both;
They say, 'the Republicans said
1766
01:27:11,217 --> 01:27:12,816
this and the
Democrats said that.
1767
01:27:12,818 --> 01:27:14,851
Now, what's the truth?
Who cares?
1768
01:27:14,853 --> 01:27:17,954
My job is just to tell you
what the latest catfight is.
1769
01:27:17,956 --> 01:27:21,424
It creates this partisan
division in the country
1770
01:27:21,426 --> 01:27:24,059
where people feel like, 'I
have to root for my team
1771
01:27:24,061 --> 01:27:25,960
regardless of
what they do.'
1772
01:27:25,962 --> 01:27:27,995
It's sometimes hard
to see contradictions
1773
01:27:27,997 --> 01:27:31,431
that find their way into
politics. Inconsistencies
1774
01:27:31,433 --> 01:27:33,399
with politicians tend
to get lost
1775
01:27:33,401 --> 01:27:34,900
in a mass amount of information
1776
01:27:34,902 --> 01:27:37,022
that now finds
its way to our attention.
1777
01:27:38,771 --> 01:27:41,905
In some cases, these
contradictions sit right
1778
01:27:41,907 --> 01:27:44,040
in front of our face.
1779
01:27:45,109 --> 01:27:47,876
When you look at the Obama
website where they were
1780
01:27:47,878 --> 01:27:50,879
looking for information-what
is important to you,
1781
01:27:50,881 --> 01:27:52,747
what do want to see us do?
1782
01:27:52,749 --> 01:27:55,149
I have to say that there
was one question that was
1783
01:27:55,151 --> 01:27:58,352
voted on that ranked fairly
high and that was
1784
01:27:58,354 --> 01:28:02,322
whether legalizing
marijuana would improve the
1785
01:28:02,324 --> 01:28:10,229
economy and job creation
and, uh, I don't
1786
01:28:10,231 --> 01:28:14,432
know what this says about
the online audience.
1787
01:28:15,802 --> 01:28:17,234
And he goes, 'ha ha, I don't
know what that says about
1788
01:28:17,236 --> 01:28:19,703
this group.' What it says
about this group is:
1789
01:28:19,705 --> 01:28:22,105
They like pot! Why don't youexplain to me what's
1790
01:28:22,107 --> 01:28:26,209
wrong with the idea that
people want you to make it
1791
01:28:26,211 --> 01:28:29,779
so that someone doesn't get
locked in a fucking cage
1792
01:28:29,781 --> 01:28:31,814
for a forbidden plant?
1793
01:28:31,816 --> 01:28:34,082
Yeah, I did it, I got away
with it, too bad you're not.
1794
01:28:34,084 --> 01:28:36,951
So move on to the next
question. Look at how
1795
01:28:36,953 --> 01:28:38,819
many of us they're
locking up.
1796
01:28:38,821 --> 01:28:40,120
There's nothing funny about it.
1797
01:28:41,123 --> 01:28:43,957
Now, think about how mental
the last three
1798
01:28:43,959 --> 01:28:48,327
presidents, at least,
confirmed that they in fact
1799
01:28:48,329 --> 01:28:52,030
did smoke marijuana. So,
shouldn't they be in jail?
1800
01:28:52,032 --> 01:28:53,998
I mean they've admitted it,
right?
1801
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,900
Obama apparently
rather enjoyed it.
1802
01:28:56,902 --> 01:28:59,002
It makes him the him the hip
President! 'I'm the cool.
1803
01:28:59,004 --> 01:29:00,937
President, I'm the
happeningest President
1804
01:29:00,939 --> 01:29:05,508
I say weed, I say blow, it's
all a big deal ha ha ha!'
1805
01:29:05,510 --> 01:29:08,811
Huge laugh from the college
students and if he had
1806
01:29:08,813 --> 01:29:13,415
done time in prison,
time in federal prison,
1807
01:29:13,417 --> 01:29:16,251
time for his weed
and a little blow,
1808
01:29:16,253 --> 01:29:20,421
he would not be President of
the United States of America.
1809
01:29:20,423 --> 01:29:23,457
This is his quote from
'I'm not going to be
1810
01:29:23,459 --> 01:29:26,226
using Justice department
resources to try to
1811
01:29:26,228 --> 01:29:29,963
circumvent state laws on
this issue.'
1812
01:29:29,965 --> 01:29:32,832
Well, bullshit, that's
exactly what he's been doing.
1813
01:29:32,834 --> 01:29:37,168
He has launched the most
vicious attack on medical
1814
01:29:37,170 --> 01:29:40,504
marijuana patients
and dispensaries
1815
01:29:40,506 --> 01:29:43,473
that pales Bush by comparison.
1816
01:29:43,475 --> 01:29:46,075
He's raided me. The DEA
has been in this house.
1817
01:29:46,077 --> 01:29:48,077
One of the reasons we are
making these announcements
1818
01:29:48,079 --> 01:29:51,380
today is to try to put to
rest the notion that large
1819
01:29:51,382 --> 01:29:54,483
marijuana businesses can
shelter themselves under
1820
01:29:54,485 --> 01:29:56,485
state law and
operate without
1821
01:29:56,487 --> 01:29:58,820
fear of federal
enforcement.
1822
01:29:59,222 --> 01:30:03,423
In a report issued in June 2013
it was found that the DEA
1823
01:30:03,425 --> 01:30:05,525
had performed 270
medical marijuana raids
1824
01:30:05,527 --> 01:30:08,427
under Barack Obama in the first
four and a half years
1825
01:30:08,429 --> 01:30:12,063
of his presidency. This was
more than all 12 years combined
1826
01:30:12,065 --> 01:30:13,831
before he took office.
1827
01:30:14,099 --> 01:30:16,999
The Obama administration
outspent the Bush administration
1828
01:30:17,001 --> 01:30:21,169
by 100 million dollars in
about half the time.
1829
01:30:21,171 --> 01:30:23,204
People get freaked out
when you say that.
1830
01:30:23,206 --> 01:30:26,807
'But Obama is hope andchange! He's a Democrat;
1831
01:30:26,809 --> 01:30:28,975
He's a good guy! You can't
say that about Obama!
1832
01:30:28,977 --> 01:30:30,593
He had a choice...
1833
01:30:30,594 --> 01:30:32,210
he coulda done as his
campaign promised and said,
1834
01:30:32,213 --> 01:30:34,246
hey, you know what? We're
not gonna do the dispensary
1835
01:30:34,248 --> 01:30:37,215
raids anymore. If you have
made medicinal marijuana
1836
01:30:37,217 --> 01:30:38,883
in your legal state, we're
gonna respect that.'
1837
01:30:38,885 --> 01:30:40,925
That's what he said
during the campaign.
1838
01:30:48,293 --> 01:30:50,960
But when he goes to act,
what did he do?
1839
01:30:50,962 --> 01:30:55,830
He put the most right-winger
that they had in the DEA,
1840
01:30:55,832 --> 01:30:58,365
who was left over from the
Bush years, as the head
1841
01:30:58,367 --> 01:31:01,401
of the DEA. Now, why would
you do that? You could have
1842
01:31:01,403 --> 01:31:04,036
picked anybody but you
picked the biggest
1843
01:31:04,038 --> 01:31:05,904
right-winger in the
department.
1844
01:31:05,906 --> 01:31:07,939
Why? And this is
what people can't
1845
01:31:07,941 --> 01:31:10,875
he's a politician just like
1846
01:31:10,877 --> 01:31:13,477
the rest of them so he thinks,
'if I can curry a little
1847
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:16,480
bit of favor by putting this
right-winger in, well,
1848
01:31:16,482 --> 01:31:19,800
I will seem so moderate
and that will increase
1849
01:31:19,801 --> 01:31:23,119
my chances of winning in
2012 by maybe half a percent.
1850
01:31:23,121 --> 01:31:25,888
President George W. Bush,
who pretty much has
1851
01:31:25,890 --> 01:31:28,223
acknowledged while he
was young and irresponsible
1852
01:31:28,225 --> 01:31:29,624
and a playboy, he
used cocaine
1853
01:31:29,626 --> 01:31:32,093
and then when he was
governor of Texas
1854
01:31:32,095 --> 01:31:35,129
signed legislation
mandating anyone
1855
01:31:35,131 --> 01:31:37,531
that uses cocaine
must go to jail
1856
01:31:37,533 --> 01:31:39,466
a minimum of 180 days.
1857
01:31:39,468 --> 01:31:42,168
That's beyond hypocrisy.
1858
01:31:42,170 --> 01:31:45,204
When asked about drugs,
he said, 'I don't want to
1859
01:31:45,206 --> 01:31:47,606
answer the marijuana
question. You know why?
1860
01:31:47,608 --> 01:31:49,728
I don't want young kids
doing what I did.'
1861
01:31:51,176 --> 01:31:54,110
Likewise, I mean when you
look at interviews
1862
01:31:54,112 --> 01:31:55,344
that have been done with
Bill Clinton
1863
01:31:55,346 --> 01:31:58,613
after he left office,
he openly admitted
1864
01:31:58,615 --> 01:32:01,315
that he thinks that marijuana
should be decriminalized
1865
01:32:01,317 --> 01:32:03,283
and it's like, oh, well
if only you were in a position
1866
01:32:03,285 --> 01:32:06,552
to do something about that!
1867
01:32:06,554 --> 01:32:09,155
I wouldn't pretend that I
know what pulls a President's
1868
01:32:09,157 --> 01:32:12,024
strings, but I do know
there's a stark contrast
1869
01:32:12,026 --> 01:32:16,061
between the way every
President behaves before
1870
01:32:16,063 --> 01:32:19,197
they get into office and then
once they get into office.
1871
01:32:19,199 --> 01:32:23,433
The general public should
hold politicians accountable
1872
01:32:23,435 --> 01:32:26,602
for saying one thing
when they're not in power
1873
01:32:26,604 --> 01:32:29,071
and doing another when
they come into power.
1874
01:32:29,073 --> 01:32:31,373
There's a sort of rhetorical
trick they quite often use
1875
01:32:31,375 --> 01:32:33,441
to say, 'oh, this is something
I did in the past,
1876
01:32:33,443 --> 01:32:35,576
it's something I regret, I
wouldn't advise anyone else
1877
01:32:35,578 --> 01:32:37,628
to do it.' So, they somehow
1878
01:32:37,629 --> 01:32:39,679
distance themselves from
their own person.
1879
01:32:39,682 --> 01:32:42,416
And the public puts up with
that hypocrisy
1880
01:32:42,418 --> 01:32:45,085
they get it when you point
it out to them, but I don't
1881
01:32:45,087 --> 01:32:46,653
know why they put up with it.
1882
01:32:46,655 --> 01:32:51,290
So it may be that President
X or President Y has
1883
01:32:51,292 --> 01:32:54,126
smoked cannabis at some
point in their lives or used
1884
01:32:54,128 --> 01:32:57,496
other illegal drugs, but when
they get to the top
1885
01:32:57,498 --> 01:33:02,233
they are going to oppress
others for using illegal drugs.
1886
01:33:02,235 --> 01:33:04,368
That's an idea that never
would have crossed the mind
1887
01:33:04,370 --> 01:33:06,470
of any of our founding fathers.
If anyone had stood up
1888
01:33:06,472 --> 01:33:08,338
at a constitutional convention
and said
1889
01:33:08,340 --> 01:33:10,373
hey! Let's ban alcohol, '
that idea wouldn't have
1890
01:33:10,375 --> 01:33:12,441
gotten very far and it
wouldn't have gotten very far
1891
01:33:12,443 --> 01:33:14,609
not because they were a
bunch of drunks, but because
1892
01:33:14,611 --> 01:33:17,578
the idea that the federal
government had that degree
1893
01:33:17,580 --> 01:33:21,048
of power over sovereign
individuals was anathema to
1894
01:33:21,050 --> 01:33:24,818
what they were trying to create
in forming a new country.
1895
01:33:29,457 --> 01:33:32,391
That's why it's essential
to make decisions in public
1896
01:33:32,393 --> 01:33:35,627
wherever possible, based on
the actual evidence that
1897
01:33:35,629 --> 01:33:37,261
there is for something.
1898
01:33:37,263 --> 01:33:38,729
How else are you going make
policy? Are you going to
1899
01:33:38,731 --> 01:33:42,632
base it on some sort of faith?
Or a wish that something
1900
01:33:42,634 --> 01:33:44,333
will happen just because you
want it to? What are you
1901
01:33:44,335 --> 01:33:46,735
going to do? Stand and sort
of scream on the spot
1902
01:33:46,737 --> 01:33:48,436
until you get your way
like a small child?
1903
01:33:48,438 --> 01:33:50,237
And that's effectively what
some of our politicians
1904
01:33:50,239 --> 01:33:51,738
seem to be doing.
1905
01:33:51,740 --> 01:33:55,174
For six months, I worked
as a policy advisor at the
1906
01:33:55,176 --> 01:33:58,076
highest levels of the British
civil service,
1907
01:33:58,078 --> 01:34:00,478
working to advise
the most senior people
1908
01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:02,096
on the issues of drugs and crime
1909
01:34:02,097 --> 01:34:03,713
and the aim of that
was to get an academic in there
1910
01:34:03,716 --> 01:34:05,415
to help give them some evidence
1911
01:34:05,417 --> 01:34:07,717
that they could base their
policies on, but I found
1912
01:34:07,719 --> 01:34:09,852
that that was actually quite
a difficult job to do.
1913
01:34:09,854 --> 01:34:12,187
Those civil servants told
me that they had learnt
1914
01:34:12,189 --> 01:34:14,589
that it was not helpful to
use evidence which
1915
01:34:14,591 --> 01:34:17,725
challenges the dominant way
of thinking that's already
1916
01:34:17,727 --> 01:34:19,326
structuring most policies.
1917
01:34:19,328 --> 01:34:21,828
It's much easier to
take evidence that supports
1918
01:34:21,830 --> 01:34:23,596
what you're already doing
1919
01:34:23,597 --> 01:34:25,363
and use that to justify
the continuation
1920
01:34:25,366 --> 01:34:27,632
of your existing policy.
1921
01:34:28,434 --> 01:34:30,834
One of the leading figures
in research in Drugs and Policy
1922
01:34:30,836 --> 01:34:32,735
is Professor
David Nutt.
1923
01:34:32,737 --> 01:34:36,171
He was the government
advisor for the ACMD.
1924
01:34:36,173 --> 01:34:39,641
The ACMD is the Advisory
Council on the Misuse of Drugs.
1925
01:34:39,643 --> 01:34:43,411
We had created a 16-point
scale of harms and then we
1926
01:34:43,413 --> 01:34:46,847
took twenty drugs and we
ranked all those drugs on
1927
01:34:46,849 --> 01:34:49,716
these sixteen different harms,
and then when we
1928
01:34:49,718 --> 01:34:51,851
put all that together into
this computer program called
1929
01:34:51,853 --> 01:34:55,621
multi-criteria decision
analysis, we discovered that
1930
01:34:55,623 --> 01:34:58,590
the most harmful drug
overall was alcohol.
1931
01:34:58,592 --> 01:35:01,893
It showed that the drug laws,
which ignore the most harmful
1932
01:35:01,895 --> 01:35:04,395
drug, were
actually based on a wrong
1933
01:35:04,397 --> 01:35:09,132
understanding of harms.
Politicians wanted to get
1934
01:35:09,134 --> 01:35:12,235
some kind of political
advantage by being hard
1935
01:35:12,237 --> 01:35:14,770
on cannabis and our study
said, 'well hang on, cannabis
1936
01:35:14,772 --> 01:35:17,839
is much, much less harmful
than alcohol.'
1937
01:35:18,241 --> 01:35:19,907
I thought I was going to
be encouraged
1938
01:35:19,909 --> 01:35:22,809
to tell the scientific truth
1939
01:35:22,811 --> 01:35:24,377
and then suddenly one
afternoon,
1940
01:35:24,379 --> 01:35:26,379
I got a phone call
saying effectively,
1941
01:35:26,381 --> 01:35:28,247
'you've gotta resign'
and I said, 'why?'
1942
01:35:28,249 --> 01:35:30,282
And he said, 'because you're
giving mixed messages;
1943
01:35:30,284 --> 01:35:32,717
We've gotta have
cannabis is bad,
1944
01:35:32,719 --> 01:35:35,619
alcohol is good. When we
say we want you to resign
1945
01:35:35,621 --> 01:35:38,855
it means you're sacked'
and so I was sacked.
1946
01:35:38,857 --> 01:35:41,557
Professor's Nutt's dismissal
came after he dared to suggest
1947
01:35:41,559 --> 01:35:44,359
drugs like cannabis and
ecstasy are less harmful
1948
01:35:44,361 --> 01:35:47,195
than alcohol and tobacco.
1949
01:35:47,197 --> 01:35:49,597
It was a very interesting
experience because, here,
1950
01:35:49,599 --> 01:35:52,900
you've spend ten years
of your life doing what you
1951
01:35:52,902 --> 01:35:57,637
know is right and what you
know-if that was accepted
1952
01:35:57,639 --> 01:36:00,706
by government, by policy-
makers-would be better for
1953
01:36:00,708 --> 01:36:03,809
society and then for simple
political reasons,
1954
01:36:03,811 --> 01:36:06,178
you get humiliated
publically.
1955
01:36:06,180 --> 01:36:09,314
After an angry exchange on
Sky News yesterday,
1956
01:36:09,316 --> 01:36:12,684
Alan Johnson reiterated his
argument in a letter to.
1957
01:36:12,686 --> 01:36:14,252
The Guardian today:
1958
01:36:14,821 --> 01:36:17,521
'Professor Nutt was
not sacked for his views,
1959
01:36:17,523 --> 01:36:21,291
which I respect but disagree
with. He was asked to go
1960
01:36:21,293 --> 01:36:23,760
because he cannot be both
a government adviser
1961
01:36:23,762 --> 01:36:26,662
and campaigner against
government policy.
1962
01:36:26,664 --> 01:36:29,331
But it kind of backfired on the
government because his sacking
1963
01:36:29,333 --> 01:36:33,435
attracted an enormous amount
of media attention.
1964
01:36:34,604 --> 01:36:37,871
Suddenly the debate wasn't
just about whether this
1965
01:36:37,873 --> 01:36:40,373
expert committee had got
it right about drugs,
1966
01:36:40,375 --> 01:36:41,874
it was a whole debate
about the role of science
1967
01:36:41,876 --> 01:36:44,543
in policy-making.
1968
01:36:45,579 --> 01:36:47,879
This brings us to an
interesting question:
1969
01:36:47,881 --> 01:36:50,314
If evidence doesn't play the
role we think it does
1970
01:36:50,316 --> 01:36:53,283
in policy-making,
then what does?
1971
01:36:54,519 --> 01:36:57,319
Turns out there's this thing
called lobbying.
1972
01:36:57,321 --> 01:36:59,688
And just what is lobbying?
1973
01:37:00,657 --> 01:37:03,724
Lobbying is supposed to be
simply getting access
1974
01:37:03,726 --> 01:37:05,659
to the politicians and
making your case.
1975
01:37:05,661 --> 01:37:07,560
So, the American people
can lobby
1976
01:37:07,562 --> 01:37:09,461
just as much as a
special interest could.
1977
01:37:09,463 --> 01:37:10,929
It's supposed to work
like that, and the politician
1978
01:37:10,931 --> 01:37:14,332
then ponders it
and says, 'oh, well,
1979
01:37:14,334 --> 01:37:15,650
you've both made an
interesting case,
1980
01:37:15,651 --> 01:37:16,967
but I'm going to go with this
side or that side.'
1981
01:37:17,336 --> 01:37:19,369
Now, that's not what
it is at all,
1982
01:37:19,371 --> 01:37:22,672
okay? The reality of
what it has become is:
1983
01:37:22,674 --> 01:37:25,841
Two sides come in with two
checks-whoever has the
1984
01:37:25,843 --> 01:37:29,945
larger check wins. That's
lobbying in a nutshell.
1985
01:37:29,947 --> 01:37:32,414
So, if it's defense contractors,
or private prisons,
1986
01:37:32,416 --> 01:37:34,416
or whoever it might be that's
giving money for that issue
1987
01:37:34,418 --> 01:37:36,384
they're gonna win!
They're not gonna win some
1988
01:37:36,386 --> 01:37:39,720
of the time; They're gonna
win all of the time.
1989
01:37:39,722 --> 01:37:42,022
I think Bill Hicks said
it best. Bill Hicks said,
1990
01:37:42,024 --> 01:37:44,891
'this is my impression of
American politics.'
1991
01:37:44,893 --> 01:37:48,594
He goes-it's a guy holding two
puppets-and people go,
1992
01:37:48,596 --> 01:37:51,296
'well the puppet on the
right is more to my liking,
1993
01:37:51,298 --> 01:37:53,965
well I feel like the puppet
on the left suits my beliefs
1994
01:37:53,967 --> 01:37:56,467
like, hey, wait a minute:
It's one guy and he's
1995
01:37:56,469 --> 01:37:58,235
holding both puppets!
1996
01:37:58,236 --> 01:38:00,002
Once corporations were
allowed to spend money in
1997
01:38:00,005 --> 01:38:03,272
politics, they
owned politics.
1998
01:38:03,274 --> 01:38:05,807
Corporations are people, my
friend. We could raise taxes
1999
01:38:05,809 --> 01:38:08,910
of course they are-
everything corporations earn
2000
01:38:08,912 --> 01:38:12,647
ultimately goes to people.
Where do you think it goes?
2001
01:38:12,649 --> 01:38:15,516
You give me money, I do
you favors-everybody got
2002
01:38:15,518 --> 01:38:17,851
used to it. Now the media
doesn't even blink;
2003
01:38:17,853 --> 01:38:19,986
They think, 'well if you're good
at raising money, that
2004
01:38:19,988 --> 01:38:21,587
must mean you're a good
politician.' Now, what does
2005
01:38:21,589 --> 01:38:23,989
that have to do with serving
the people? Do you know
2006
01:38:23,991 --> 01:38:28,692
that, 95% of the time, the
person with more money wins
2007
01:38:28,694 --> 01:38:32,295
the congressional election
at the national stage?
2008
01:38:32,297 --> 01:38:33,996
It doesn't matter if you're
liberal or conservative,
2009
01:38:33,998 --> 01:38:37,866
the main thing that matters
is do you have more money?
2010
01:38:38,335 --> 01:38:42,569
So, for the 2012 elections,
they spent six billion dollars
2011
01:38:42,571 --> 01:38:44,971
on all the national elections.
2012
01:38:44,973 --> 01:38:47,440
They spent a billion
for the Obama campaign,
2013
01:38:47,442 --> 01:38:49,375
a billion for
the Romney campaign
2014
01:38:49,377 --> 01:38:50,809
and four billion for all the
senate and
2015
01:38:50,811 --> 01:38:52,677
congressional elections.
2016
01:38:53,579 --> 01:38:55,579
It's large donors and
2017
01:38:55,581 --> 01:38:57,847
they're not spending six billion
dollars for their health.
2018
01:38:57,849 --> 01:39:00,549
They're spending
the six billion dollars to
2019
01:39:00,551 --> 01:39:02,417
get back 12 billion
2020
01:39:02,419 --> 01:39:03,718
or 60 billion
2021
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:08,322
I got a campaign. I need
money. Who's got money?
2022
01:39:08,324 --> 01:39:12,726
That woman with four kids
selling $31 worth of marijuana,
2023
01:39:12,728 --> 01:39:15,929
she's got no money,
but that banker,
2024
01:39:15,931 --> 01:39:19,732
that Wall Street guy,
that corporation guy-
2025
01:39:19,734 --> 01:39:23,001
hey, I think they have a few
bucks to spread around.
2026
01:39:23,003 --> 01:39:27,371
It actually becomes an
undercurrent to every single
2027
01:39:27,373 --> 01:39:30,507
legislative action that we
see. Everybody's concerned
2028
01:39:30,509 --> 01:39:33,109
about re-election; Everybody's
concerned about how to
2029
01:39:33,111 --> 01:39:35,945
sell themselves, not to
their constituents,
2030
01:39:35,947 --> 01:39:38,187
but to the lobbying and
to the interest groups.
2031
01:39:38,849 --> 01:39:42,016
It fucks up the framework
and the groundwork for the
2032
01:39:42,018 --> 01:39:44,485
world that we operate in.
2033
01:39:46,355 --> 01:39:50,056
So where does this leave
society when those who are
2034
01:39:50,058 --> 01:39:52,691
elected to represent the
public no longer have the
2035
01:39:52,693 --> 01:39:58,496
motivation to do so? How
can balance be re-achieved?
2036
01:39:58,498 --> 01:39:59,997
What else can alter
the framework
2037
01:39:59,999 --> 01:40:01,765
of the world around us?
2038
01:40:06,804 --> 01:40:12,707
If you think in terms of our
communication environment,
2039
01:40:12,709 --> 01:40:16,677
the advent of the 'net
represented a tremendous
2040
01:40:16,679 --> 01:40:17,944
inflection point.
2041
01:40:19,113 --> 01:40:22,615
Before that, the
sources of information
2042
01:40:22,617 --> 01:40:24,917
that we had were
pretty much
2043
01:40:24,919 --> 01:40:27,920
institutionally structured.
2044
01:40:27,922 --> 01:40:31,156
That very strong filter is
breaking down and that's
2045
01:40:31,158 --> 01:40:33,825
giving people around the
world the chance
2046
01:40:33,827 --> 01:40:35,694
to think for themselves
2047
01:40:35,695 --> 01:40:37,562
I have a real bug about
nobody respects books
2048
01:40:37,564 --> 01:40:39,697
anymore; Books going out
the window and everyone's
2049
01:40:39,699 --> 01:40:42,666
reading on these bloody
screens. It's just so easy to
2050
01:40:42,668 --> 01:40:44,668
Google stuff. Everyone's
just like, 'oh, let's check.
2051
01:40:44,670 --> 01:40:47,737
Google' no! It's a real,
like, big bug there for me;
2052
01:40:47,739 --> 01:40:49,923
It really annoys me.
2053
01:40:49,924 --> 01:40:52,164
Where do you get most of
your news from today?
2054
01:40:53,811 --> 01:40:56,311
I think, the internet
actually!
2055
01:40:57,514 --> 01:41:00,548
Suddenly, it's a different
world. The folk that control
2056
01:41:00,550 --> 01:41:04,551
big media now no longer
control the whole of
2057
01:41:04,553 --> 01:41:06,252
that media environment.
2058
01:41:06,687 --> 01:41:08,286
We're not reliant, say,
in England,
2059
01:41:08,288 --> 01:41:12,289
on the Daily Telegraphs and thefear that politicians have
2060
01:41:12,291 --> 01:41:15,258
over two or three publications.
2061
01:41:15,260 --> 01:41:19,595
Blogs have become the media;
there really is a public debate.
2062
01:41:19,597 --> 01:41:23,198
This is like the public forum
of Athens or Rome.
2063
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:25,066
It's the freedom to do what
you want. Can't nobody
2064
01:41:25,068 --> 01:41:27,234
tell you what you can and
can't do on the internet.
2065
01:41:27,236 --> 01:41:29,869
You can do what the hell you
wanna do when you wanna do it.
2066
01:41:29,871 --> 01:41:32,938
You may connect with
somebody in another country
2067
01:41:32,940 --> 01:41:34,873
who may have some information
that'd really enlighten the world.
2068
01:41:34,875 --> 01:41:37,709
Because we don't know it all
in America: We only know
2069
01:41:37,711 --> 01:41:40,778
half the story. I was, you
know, close-minded
2070
01:41:40,780 --> 01:41:42,913
I was just thinking about
California and the
2071
01:41:42,915 --> 01:41:44,748
lifestyle I grew up in.
2072
01:41:44,750 --> 01:41:47,617
In Alice in Wonderland, it
said something like this:
2073
01:41:47,619 --> 01:41:49,585
'How do I know what I think until
I hear what I have to say?'
2074
01:41:49,587 --> 01:41:52,621
On the internet you can
actually express yourself
2075
01:41:52,623 --> 01:41:56,091
out loud; You can add
a new dimension to thinking
2076
01:41:56,093 --> 01:42:00,228
and for the first time,
if you have an opinion,
2077
01:42:00,230 --> 01:42:03,231
you can go out there and
express it, and if you have
2078
01:42:03,233 --> 01:42:07,201
the ability to promote it,
you can get attention for it.
2079
01:42:07,203 --> 01:42:08,719
Post it
2080
01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:10,236
and before you know it,
a million people could be
2081
01:42:10,239 --> 01:42:12,839
following you, talkin'
with you, respectin' your
2082
01:42:12,841 --> 01:42:16,008
views. Or they could be
talkin' bad about your views.
2083
01:42:16,010 --> 01:42:18,343
All of a sudden, issues
that would not have
2084
01:42:18,345 --> 01:42:22,146
been discussed before
are being discussed.
2085
01:42:22,148 --> 01:42:25,349
There's these little
communities based on ideas
2086
01:42:25,351 --> 01:42:28,819
and thoughts that are building
and those ideas turn into
2087
01:42:28,821 --> 01:42:32,255
other ideas and other
programming and it's weird if
2088
01:42:32,257 --> 01:42:35,825
you were to look at it on a
chart or on a graph.
2089
01:42:36,861 --> 01:42:40,729
In terms of the War on Drugs, the
internet has been phenomenal.
2090
01:42:40,731 --> 01:42:43,698
There was a great thirst
for the truth
2091
01:42:43,700 --> 01:42:47,101
and so anytime that truth
leaked out on the internet
2092
01:42:47,103 --> 01:42:49,203
people would just jump on it.
2093
01:42:49,205 --> 01:42:51,238
'Oh, marijuana has
medicinal benefits?
2094
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:52,872
Oh, wow, Richard
Nixon already had the report
2095
01:42:52,874 --> 01:42:55,641
that said marijuana
wasn't bad for you?'
2096
01:42:55,643 --> 01:42:58,310
They jump on it and
they think, 'thank God
2097
01:42:58,312 --> 01:43:01,746
there's now something that
let's me access the truth!
2098
01:43:01,748 --> 01:43:04,115
I was online in '94. That's
when I first got online,
2099
01:43:04,117 --> 01:43:06,250
but it didn't really do
anything it was sorta like
2100
01:43:06,252 --> 01:43:08,952
puttin' around and no
one knew what was going on.
2101
01:43:08,954 --> 01:43:10,053
You've got mail!
2102
01:43:10,055 --> 01:43:11,220
Everyone I know is on it!
2103
01:43:11,222 --> 01:43:12,254
Email!
2104
01:43:12,256 --> 01:43:14,056
Instant messages!
2105
01:43:14,057 --> 01:43:15,857
There's no better way
to keep in touch.
2106
01:43:15,858 --> 01:43:17,658
You've got mail. Now with
56k, connections are faster
2107
01:43:17,661 --> 01:43:18,849
than ever!
2108
01:43:18,850 --> 01:43:20,038
It's fast!
2109
01:43:20,039 --> 01:43:21,227
If you have a phone line,
you can go online.
2110
01:43:21,231 --> 01:43:22,964
What will they think
of next?
2111
01:43:22,966 --> 01:43:25,700
And the mail was all
bullshit, and then slowly
2112
01:43:25,702 --> 01:43:30,103
but but surely it became this
interacting monster
2113
01:43:30,105 --> 01:43:31,270
that it is today.
2114
01:43:31,272 --> 01:43:33,839
Anything that you need to
know about marijuana,
2115
01:43:33,841 --> 01:43:35,240
you can just go on
there and look.
2116
01:43:35,242 --> 01:43:37,942
You can have your mind
changed instantly.
2117
01:43:37,944 --> 01:43:40,344
In the old days, when
there was twenty hippies
2118
01:43:40,346 --> 01:43:42,813
sitting around trying to
legalize marijuana with
2119
01:43:42,815 --> 01:43:44,948
with their little flyers,
there was no way to
2120
01:43:44,950 --> 01:43:47,317
fact check any of it. It
sounded like a crazy hippie.
2121
01:43:47,319 --> 01:43:49,952
Wait, you're telling me
marijuana is safe and it
2122
01:43:49,954 --> 01:43:53,422
helps you with headaches
and anxiety and all these
2123
01:43:53,424 --> 01:43:55,957
important medical things
that we're taking all these
2124
01:43:55,959 --> 01:43:58,793
pills for? Yeah right,old hippie.
2125
01:43:59,228 --> 01:44:01,761
But nowadays, these
hippies are online
2126
01:44:01,763 --> 01:44:04,864
and they have proof
and facts and for once
2127
01:44:04,866 --> 01:44:06,832
we're like, 'wow,
that's not a crazy hippie,
2128
01:44:06,834 --> 01:44:09,401
that's a
smart hippie.'
2129
01:44:09,403 --> 01:44:12,237
You know, I can pick this
phone up, and within 10 seconds,
2130
01:44:12,239 --> 01:44:16,974
I can Google any complex
question that would've
2131
01:44:16,976 --> 01:44:20,978
required a serious
education to answer before.
2132
01:44:20,980 --> 01:44:23,714
It's become so commonplace,
that we don't realize
2133
01:44:23,716 --> 01:44:27,684
how fucking completely insane
it is! It's a culture-
2134
01:44:27,686 --> 01:44:31,154
changing reality shift.
2135
01:44:31,389 --> 01:44:34,089
People like me, who had to
read about things
2136
01:44:34,091 --> 01:44:36,825
in an encyclopedia, and actually
go to a library, and take
2137
01:44:36,827 --> 01:44:39,961
out books on things.
I'm a fuckin' dinosaur.
2138
01:44:39,963 --> 01:44:43,097
The young kids that are comin'
up today-from the jump,
2139
01:44:43,099 --> 01:44:44,698
have had the internet;
They don't know
2140
01:44:44,700 --> 01:44:46,966
what the world is like
without the internet.
2141
01:44:46,968 --> 01:44:50,069
The internet is beginning to
shake things up in politics
2142
01:44:50,071 --> 01:44:54,472
but the old momentum is
clinging stubbornly,
2143
01:44:54,474 --> 01:44:57,842
irritatingly and
disturbingly.
2144
01:44:57,844 --> 01:45:01,145
With the recent NSA leak,
I think that you see
2145
01:45:01,147 --> 01:45:05,149
a very specific example of
politicians trying to destroy
2146
01:45:05,151 --> 01:45:07,885
freedom of expression
and freedom of speech.
2147
01:45:07,887 --> 01:45:11,054
Collecting data on people
and spying on people is a
2148
01:45:11,056 --> 01:45:13,823
form of intimidation. If you
know that the government
2149
01:45:13,825 --> 01:45:15,858
is watching what you're
doing, and you know that the
2150
01:45:15,860 --> 01:45:18,393
government is monitoring what
you are saying and
2151
01:45:18,395 --> 01:45:21,396
what you're advocating for,
you are less likely to be
2152
01:45:21,398 --> 01:45:23,498
politically active. You are more
likely to be intimidated
2153
01:45:23,500 --> 01:45:27,168
by power. They're using
that as a way
2154
01:45:27,170 --> 01:45:29,336
to tell us to
shut the fuck up.
2155
01:45:31,106 --> 01:45:34,073
The West fought for 500 years
to acquire these basic rights
2156
01:45:34,075 --> 01:45:37,242
and just to hand them away
thoughtlessly means
2157
01:45:37,244 --> 01:45:39,110
that we have to fight again
for hundreds of years
2158
01:45:39,112 --> 01:45:41,912
just to get them back. It's
very hard to acquire basic
2159
01:45:41,914 --> 01:45:44,074
human rights; It's very easy
to give them up.
2160
01:45:44,316 --> 01:45:47,483
The establishment is scared
to death of the internet
2161
01:45:47,485 --> 01:45:50,085
because that's the one
thing they can't control.
2162
01:45:50,087 --> 01:45:52,087
So they've figured out a way to
control our politicians
2163
01:45:52,089 --> 01:45:53,855
through donations, they've
figured out how to control
2164
01:45:53,857 --> 01:45:56,824
TV through the advertising,
but the internet is the wild,
2165
01:45:56,826 --> 01:45:59,993
wild West and they can't
grab it. No matter how
2166
01:45:59,995 --> 01:46:02,495
much they try to plug all the
holes in, the truth seems
2167
01:46:02,497 --> 01:46:05,164
to get out one way or another
anyway. It's basically
2168
01:46:05,166 --> 01:46:08,367
the whole world sharing with
one another and the one thing
2169
01:46:08,369 --> 01:46:10,335
that we're sharing, that's
really doing them damage,
2170
01:46:10,337 --> 01:46:12,203
is the truth.
2171
01:46:12,838 --> 01:46:16,372
The trend, if you pay
attention to it, clearly is
2172
01:46:16,374 --> 01:46:21,843
the dissolving of boundaries
between people and ideas
2173
01:46:21,845 --> 01:46:25,947
and information and it's all
going to come to a head.
2174
01:46:34,824 --> 01:46:37,424
The first cracks in the
monolith of prohibition
2175
01:46:37,426 --> 01:46:40,226
have already happened. Suddenly
you have Washington
2176
01:46:40,228 --> 01:46:43,562
and Colorado actually
succeeding in passing
2177
01:46:43,564 --> 01:46:45,530
these legalization and
regulation ballots
2178
01:46:45,532 --> 01:46:47,498
and becoming the first
jurisdictions
2179
01:46:47,500 --> 01:46:49,833
anywhere in the world to do so.
2180
01:46:49,835 --> 01:46:51,901
What's happening in the
United States is that the
2181
01:46:51,903 --> 01:46:55,104
entire underpinnings of the
War on Drugs are being
2182
01:46:55,106 --> 01:46:58,807
pulled away by the population
of the United States itself.
2183
01:46:58,809 --> 01:47:01,009
Washington state and
Colorado that make it
2184
01:47:01,011 --> 01:47:02,343
legal-legal, they're like,
2185
01:47:02,345 --> 01:47:05,079
'look, man, it's
fuckin' legal here. Period.
2186
01:47:05,081 --> 01:47:06,580
It's not "medically legal"
it's legal'
2187
01:47:06,582 --> 01:47:09,449
and the DEA is like,
'woah, you better not!'
2188
01:47:09,451 --> 01:47:11,818
Like, whaddya mean,
we'd better not?
2189
01:47:11,820 --> 01:47:14,086
Come on, what is our
fucking voting system for
2190
01:47:14,088 --> 01:47:17,456
if a piece of legislation that
the people want gets up
2191
01:47:17,458 --> 01:47:20,492
there and you're still going
out of your way
2192
01:47:20,494 --> 01:47:22,894
not to recognize it?
2193
01:47:22,895 --> 01:47:25,295
How could you ask people
to believe in the process
2194
01:47:25,298 --> 01:47:26,578
if you won't respect the vote?
2195
01:47:27,966 --> 01:47:31,334
You can't ask people to vote-
they won't want to.
2196
01:47:31,336 --> 01:47:33,502
That's all that's gonna have
to happen to tear it all apart:
2197
01:47:33,504 --> 01:47:35,904
Is more states just
saying, 'you know what?
2198
01:47:35,906 --> 01:47:37,505
We're gonna legalize.'
2199
01:47:37,507 --> 01:47:41,842
They become a force that can
stand up to the status quo.
2200
01:47:41,844 --> 01:47:46,579
It's then you start to take
what is yours
2201
01:47:46,581 --> 01:47:48,314
instead of waiting for the
corporations
2202
01:47:48,316 --> 01:47:51,183
and the government to give you
what they think you deserve.
2203
01:47:51,185 --> 01:47:54,386
One by one, individual states
are defying the federal
2204
01:47:54,388 --> 01:47:57,856
government and responding
to the wishes of their
2205
01:47:57,858 --> 01:48:00,491
their own immediate population
and changing the state law.
2206
01:48:00,493 --> 01:48:03,026
Once we see that gaining
pace in the United States,
2207
01:48:03,028 --> 01:48:05,094
it's gonna gain pace in the
whole of the rest of the world
2208
01:48:05,096 --> 01:48:06,829
as well.
2209
01:48:06,830 --> 01:48:08,563
The International Narcotics
Control Board has made it clear
2210
01:48:08,566 --> 01:48:11,466
that Washington and
Colorado are in breach
2211
01:48:11,468 --> 01:48:13,968
of the UN drug conventions,
they're effectively breaking
2212
01:48:13,970 --> 01:48:17,972
international law and that the
U.S. is, by dint of what's
2213
01:48:17,974 --> 01:48:20,474
happening in Washington and
Colorado, also in breach
2214
01:48:20,476 --> 01:48:22,242
of the UN conventions.
2215
01:48:22,244 --> 01:48:26,378
Given that the UN drug treaties
were very much driven
2216
01:48:26,380 --> 01:48:28,046
by the U.S. in the
first instance,
2217
01:48:28,048 --> 01:48:30,415
it does put them in this
rather odd situation where
2218
01:48:30,417 --> 01:48:34,218
something that they drove
the formation of, they are
2219
01:48:34,220 --> 01:48:38,355
now being disciplined and
condemned for violating.
2220
01:48:38,357 --> 01:48:41,658
Because how can they impose
these appallingly damaging
2221
01:48:41,660 --> 01:48:43,893
laws and conventions across
the other countries of
2222
01:48:43,895 --> 01:48:47,129
the planet when they're legal-
izing in their own backyard?
2223
01:48:47,131 --> 01:48:49,231
I think it makes it very
difficult for the United States
2224
01:48:49,233 --> 01:48:52,968
to try to hold other
countries in line.
2225
01:48:52,970 --> 01:48:57,272
They are experimenting
with a completely new approach
2226
01:48:57,274 --> 01:49:01,142
and that is for the
state to be selling marijuana
2227
01:49:01,144 --> 01:49:03,677
in marijuana shops
throughout Uruguay.
2228
01:49:03,679 --> 01:49:07,980
All across Europe, in Australia,
and in fact, all over the world,
2229
01:49:07,982 --> 01:49:09,648
the whole
house of cards
2230
01:49:09,650 --> 01:49:12,450
is already coming
crumbling down.
2231
01:49:13,553 --> 01:49:16,954
I mean even by the time you
put this documentary on air,
2232
01:49:16,956 --> 01:49:20,457
I'm sure that there are going
to be more states
2233
01:49:20,459 --> 01:49:23,092
that have voted with their
feet and changed
2234
01:49:23,094 --> 01:49:24,359
the legal status of cannabis.
2235
01:49:24,361 --> 01:49:26,294
Big step today for those
hoping to legalize
2236
01:49:26,296 --> 01:49:29,030
recreational marijuana
in Alaska.
2237
01:49:29,032 --> 01:49:31,132
The campaign to regulate
marijuana turned in
2238
01:49:31,134 --> 01:49:34,235
more than 45000 signatures
to the lieutenant governor.
2239
01:49:34,237 --> 01:49:36,437
I mean it's impossible to keep
up right now when it
2240
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:39,373
comes to research,
political development.
2241
01:49:39,375 --> 01:49:43,677
Constant stream of books
and documentaries, podcasts
2242
01:49:43,679 --> 01:49:47,213
and blog posts. The
information's just overwhelming.
2243
01:49:47,215 --> 01:49:49,648
They just can't stop
releasing shit.
2244
01:49:49,650 --> 01:49:52,217
Just like you can't stop making
documentaries about it,
2245
01:49:52,219 --> 01:49:54,653
just like I can't stop
talking about it on stage
2246
01:49:54,655 --> 01:49:56,187
or on a podcast.
2247
01:49:56,189 --> 01:49:58,389
In ten years
from now,
2248
01:49:58,391 --> 01:50:00,341
you're gonna look
at this film and be like,
2249
01:50:00,342 --> 01:50:02,292
'that's ridiculous. Remember
when they had to make films
2250
01:50:02,294 --> 01:50:04,093
about legalizing marijuana?'
2251
01:50:04,395 --> 01:50:07,062
And it's one of the reasons
why the age of information
2252
01:50:07,064 --> 01:50:09,431
that we exist in today is
so fuckin' important.
2253
01:50:09,433 --> 01:50:11,232
It's so important because
it's never been in the
2254
01:50:11,234 --> 01:50:13,434
hands of the people before
and this is what happened:
2255
01:50:13,436 --> 01:50:15,502
In the hands of the people
you've seen more progress
2256
01:50:15,504 --> 01:50:16,803
in ten years than we have
2257
01:50:16,805 --> 01:50:19,272
in two fuckin' hundred
years before.
2258
01:50:19,274 --> 01:50:21,707
Because it's swarming,
all the greedy pigs
2259
01:50:21,709 --> 01:50:23,675
are trying to hold on to it,
but it's like standing
2260
01:50:23,677 --> 01:50:25,510
in the middle of the river and
trying to catch all the salmon
2261
01:50:25,512 --> 01:50:27,545
with your hands. You're not
going to.
2262
01:50:27,547 --> 01:50:30,381
The world is already moving;
We're already on it like
2263
01:50:30,383 --> 01:50:32,716
we want it. They doing it in
Seattle, Washington.
2264
01:50:32,718 --> 01:50:35,719
Recreational. You know I'm
on my way out there
2265
01:50:35,721 --> 01:50:39,622
as soon as I get off this TV
screen. Recreational work.
2266
01:50:40,391 --> 01:50:43,392
Establishment figures, they're
beginning to get the message;
2267
01:50:43,394 --> 01:50:44,860
They're realizing that it isn't
in their interests
2268
01:50:44,862 --> 01:50:47,629
any longer to
demonize cannabis.
2269
01:50:47,631 --> 01:50:50,832
It does not make sense, from a
prioritization point of view,
2270
01:50:50,834 --> 01:50:54,268
for us to focus on
recreational drug users
2271
01:50:54,270 --> 01:50:58,504
in a state that has already said
that under state law,
2272
01:50:58,506 --> 01:51:00,373
'that's legal.'
2273
01:51:00,374 --> 01:51:02,241
When you see a broad social
change taking place
2274
01:51:02,243 --> 01:51:05,143
in society and you realizethat you are behind the curve
2275
01:51:05,145 --> 01:51:06,744
then, you pretty
soon get it
2276
01:51:06,746 --> 01:51:08,613
that you have to catch
up with the curve.
2277
01:51:08,614 --> 01:51:10,481
It seems like they are falling
under the weight of all this.
2278
01:51:10,483 --> 01:51:13,684
They just go where
the wind blows
2279
01:51:13,686 --> 01:51:15,719
in order to stay alive.
2280
01:51:15,721 --> 01:51:17,687
I don't think it matters
why people jump ship
2281
01:51:17,689 --> 01:51:19,689
as long as they do
jump ship.
2282
01:51:19,691 --> 01:51:23,292
In 2009, you wrote a Time
Magazine article entitled.
2283
01:51:23,294 --> 01:51:27,329
Why I Would Vote No on Pot.
You've changed your mind.
2284
01:51:27,331 --> 01:51:31,466
I have and as part of my
thinking recently,
2285
01:51:31,468 --> 01:51:33,601
I've apologized for some of
the earlier reporting
2286
01:51:33,603 --> 01:51:37,237
because I think we've been
terribly and systematically
2287
01:51:37,239 --> 01:51:39,172
misled in this country
for some time
2288
01:51:39,174 --> 01:51:42,542
and I did part of
that misleading.
2289
01:51:47,314 --> 01:51:51,249
There's a shift taking place
in our culture.
2290
01:51:51,251 --> 01:51:55,753
The issue is once again on
the table. Will the forces
2291
01:51:55,755 --> 01:52:00,457
backing marijuana deregulation
overplay their hand
2292
01:52:00,459 --> 01:52:05,728
in some way that allows the
forces of incarceration
2293
01:52:05,730 --> 01:52:07,563
to get a jump on them?
2294
01:52:09,466 --> 01:52:13,768
The war on marijuana is a
symptom of something that
2295
01:52:13,770 --> 01:52:17,471
is fundamentally wrong in
this country. We have to
2296
01:52:17,473 --> 01:52:22,208
break out of the fog because
the media won't do anything
2297
01:52:22,210 --> 01:52:25,511
no President is gonna come
in and change things.
2298
01:52:25,513 --> 01:52:28,747
It comes from the bottom up
not from the top down.
2299
01:52:28,749 --> 01:52:30,615
So, you can have minor
little victories,
2300
01:52:30,617 --> 01:52:35,318
but that's tinkering. 50 years
of documentation says
2301
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:38,788
it's not working and
what do we do tomorrow?
2302
01:52:39,857 --> 01:52:41,890
The same damn thing.
2303
01:52:42,325 --> 01:52:45,359
The truth is not repeating
what everybody around you
2304
01:52:45,361 --> 01:52:48,762
automatically says. It is
not repeating what everybody
2305
01:52:48,764 --> 01:52:50,430
is gonna pat you on the head
for saying.
2306
01:52:50,865 --> 01:52:52,464
It is looking for the
things
2307
01:52:52,466 --> 01:52:55,733
that people will not pat
you on the head for saying
2308
01:52:55,735 --> 01:52:57,534
because those are
the things that people
2309
01:52:57,536 --> 01:53:01,871
really need to know, and
once you are damn convinced
2310
01:53:01,873 --> 01:53:05,608
of something of that sort,
then it's your obligation
2311
01:53:05,610 --> 01:53:07,676
to go out on a limb for it.
2312
01:53:08,578 --> 01:53:10,377
That's truth.
2313
01:53:10,746 --> 01:53:13,580
We have to figure out,
A, that we are temporary
2314
01:53:13,582 --> 01:53:16,215
and we are the people that
have to pass down this
2315
01:53:16,217 --> 01:53:21,352
fucking incredibly fucked
up mess to our children
2316
01:53:21,354 --> 01:53:25,822
and unless we operate this world
with the idea of sustainability
2317
01:53:25,824 --> 01:53:29,358
for the culture, sustainability
for the community,
2318
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:33,462
sustainability
for humanity in general,
2319
01:53:33,464 --> 01:53:35,363
you're gonna have
resentment at every turn.
2320
01:53:35,365 --> 01:53:37,765
You have people profiting and
people failing
2321
01:53:37,767 --> 01:53:39,366
and people being victimized,
2322
01:53:39,368 --> 01:53:42,869
but the reason why
we are so complex
2323
01:53:42,871 --> 01:53:46,739
is also the reason that
I think that we have hope.
2324
01:53:50,644 --> 01:53:52,510
Eight years
and 2 films later,
2325
01:53:52,512 --> 01:53:57,047
we once again arrive left with
more questions than answers.
2326
01:53:57,949 --> 01:53:59,789
Where do we go
from here?
2327
01:54:00,651 --> 01:54:03,451
How do we move forward without
taking two steps back?
2328
01:54:05,388 --> 01:54:08,522
And, again, sits that ever-
lingering question
2329
01:54:08,524 --> 01:54:10,690
that we just can't
seem to shake:
2330
01:54:12,927 --> 01:54:15,794
Will marijuana ever
fully be legalized?
2331
01:54:15,796 --> 01:54:18,596
Um, probably yes...
2332
01:54:18,598 --> 01:54:21,865
Oh yes, oh yes. I've no
doubt about it.
2333
01:54:21,867 --> 01:54:26,535
Marijuana prohibition is a
zombie; It is a walking corpse.
2334
01:54:26,537 --> 01:54:32,407
It could be decades, but
historically, it's a blip.
2335
01:54:32,409 --> 01:54:35,576
I think marijuana will be
fully legalized and taxed
2336
01:54:35,578 --> 01:54:38,946
in my lifetime. Whether we'llever get Singapore doing it,
2337
01:54:38,948 --> 01:54:40,080
we'll see.
2338
01:54:40,082 --> 01:54:45,451
Globally? I can see Irandoing it, can't you?
2339
01:54:46,487 --> 01:54:49,321
Instead of goin' one city,
one state at a time.
2340
01:54:49,323 --> 01:54:50,989
Make that shit legal
everywhere
2341
01:54:50,991 --> 01:54:52,924
and pop the top
and let's go!
2342
01:54:52,926 --> 01:54:55,493
I think it's just around
the corner, but you know,
2343
01:54:55,495 --> 01:54:58,362
I've always thought that!
I've been wrong up to now,
2344
01:54:58,364 --> 01:55:00,404
so I'm probably wrong now!
I don't know.
2345
01:55:01,733 --> 01:55:09,705
I doubt it seriously. I believe
that the forces controlling
2346
01:55:09,707 --> 01:55:13,041
the way things work in the
United States will give us
2347
01:55:13,043 --> 01:55:18,746
lots of process before we ever
get to total legalization.
2348
01:55:18,748 --> 01:55:21,415
I can die with the
satisfaction of knowing
2349
01:55:21,417 --> 01:55:23,817
it's inevitable now.
2350
01:55:23,819 --> 01:55:27,554
They're never gonna get the
cat back in that bag again.
2351
01:55:27,556 --> 01:55:33,059
He's out... and what we see
now is this culture
2352
01:55:33,061 --> 01:55:36,328
struggling to make an
accommodation for this
2353
01:55:36,330 --> 01:55:38,396
new kid on the block.
2354
01:55:38,931 --> 01:55:43,332
There'll come a point when
this will probably end
2355
01:55:43,334 --> 01:55:48,069
but if it's not today, then
somebody will be locked up
2356
01:55:48,071 --> 01:55:52,872
today, somebody's life
will be ruined today
2357
01:55:52,874 --> 01:55:56,475
and that somebody is
probably hundreds of people.
2358
01:55:56,477 --> 01:56:01,413
To begin to demonstrate an
understanding of humanity
2359
01:56:01,415 --> 01:56:06,350
is so counter to our
way of thinking-
2360
01:56:06,352 --> 01:56:10,420
it's throw away the key,
let's lock 'em up.
2361
01:56:13,358 --> 01:56:17,659
And you believe it, up until
your son or your daughter
2362
01:56:17,661 --> 01:56:23,631
or your friends or yourself gets
caught up in the same nightmare
2363
01:56:23,633 --> 01:56:27,033
and then you're going 'oh
my God, now I understand, '
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But do you?
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