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Good evening. We are here to talk
about the great and wonderful
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John Motson
and his fabulous career.
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John's lasted over 50 years
in a really tough,
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changing football world.
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It sounds silly. He never set out
to become this household name.
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A national institution.
A one-off.
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Motty and football
just go together, don't they?
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Why has he lasted that length?
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And Beckham saw Sullivan
off his line!
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Oh! That is absolutely phenomenal!
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It was his voice.
Such a distinctive voice.
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You try and stop him talking!
That's half of it.
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Owen! Oh, this is getting
better and better and better!
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He's one of the father figures
of the game now.
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His record is absolutely brilliant.
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Radford again.
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Oh, what a goal! What a goal!
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You see the footage
of old goals and that,
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and they go hand in hand
with his commentary.
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Tigana! Platini!
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Goal!
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"Platini! Goal!"
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I know you're a legend
here in Match Of The Day.
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We've all grown up with him
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and the caricatures
and the sheepskin coat...
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I'm not at all sure about this.
HE CHUCKLES
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...the kind of nerdy nature of Motty,
but, you know, lovable, as well,
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and a brilliant commentator.
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He's done it! Sergio Aguero!
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You put a microphone in his hand
and he relaxes,
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he just feels at one with it.
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In the end, I am going to just
have to describe him as my dad.
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And away we go.
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KEN BRUCE: Our Tracks Of Our Years
all this week being chosen by BBC
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football commentator extraordinaire
John Motson. Ten World Cups,
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ten European championships
and 29 FA Cup finals,
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and he's hanging up his microphone
and his sheepskin coat this week,
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ending 50 fabulous years at the BBC.
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Is there a glass of water in there?
We will grab you one. Thank you.
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Thank you. John! Ken! How are you?
How are you, sir? Great to see you.
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Thank you very much for having me
on your show. A pleasure!
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Thank you very much. You all right?
Yeah, good. Yeah, I'm all right.
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You actually began your
broadcasting career here at Radio 2.
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I did, in 1968.
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I came through the front doors
of the old Broadcasting House
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as a young journalist,
wet behind the ears,
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straight from
the Sheffield Morning Telegraph,
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and they took me to the sports room,
and they first of all thought
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I might become a producer,
and then they thought,
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"Let's try him as a voice."
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This penalty. Coombs is coming
off his line. He's told to go back.
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He's delaying it. Eventually,
Lewis does come in.
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And he's got it! It's there!
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And then they said, "We're going
to try you out as a commentator."
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HARRY CARPENTER: That's John Motson,
who was reporting for us tonight,
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of course, on
the South end-Liverpool match,
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looking there rather like
an orphan in the storm.
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When I went
from radio to television,
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that was an eye-opener,
because in radio, of course,
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nobody can see the picture,
you're describing which way they're
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kicking, you're giving
the score every two minutes,
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all of which people can see
on the television screen.
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So when I suddenly went to Match
Of The Day and they kicked off,
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I remember this sinking feeling
in my stomach, thinking,
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"Well, what do I say now?
It's on the screen!"
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Oh, what a goal by Mullery!
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And it took me, well, certainly
the best part of two years,
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if not longer, to realise
that a lot of the stuff I'd been
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talking about as a radio commentator
was no longer relevant
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and now I had to add to the picture
by interpreting certain
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things that were going on.
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I didn't sit down
and devise a style,
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I just picked up the microphone.
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And it sounds a tiny bit arrogant
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to say it came naturally,
but a lot of it did.
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Now here's Wright, his first chance
to show what he can do.
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And he's through. It's Wright!
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Oh, what an impact
by the substitute!
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I think when you listen to john
Motson, you hear different things.
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You hear a good editorial
journalist at work,
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you hear a genuine preparer.
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But more than anything,
you hear a football lover,
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you hear an enthusiast.
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...and he also scored
in the semifinal, too.
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Here's the corner.
It's running loose. Astle's there!
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Oh, he's got it! It's a goal!
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I introduced my wife to him,
and she said to me afterwards,
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"He's a nice guy, isn't he?"
I said, "Yeah."
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She said, "Do you know
the most compelling thing about him
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"is his voice? You're never
going to forget that voice."
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Villa.
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And still Ricky Villa!
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What a fantastic run!
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He's scored! Amazing goal
by Ricky Villa!
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In an ever-changing world, when
he's on Match Of The Day there's
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something strangely reassuring
about it.
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Ancl it's that voice, isn't it?
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When the game starts
and you hear that voice,
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you feel you're in safe hands.
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Here's Gascoigne.
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Oh, brilliant.
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Oh, yes! Oh, yes!
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People have grown up hearing
John's voice. It's so distinctive.
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So even if we're having
a quiet meal somewhere,
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if someone hears his voice,
then they will come over.
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And here comes the pot of paint.
And this is extraordinary.
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We're going to see the penalty spot
painted, are we, during the match?
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John has that quality of
being just there for you,
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like he's in the front room,
sitting on the sofa with you,
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talking about the game
on the television.
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Ancl it's official now, isn't it,
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that you are the best voice
in commentating?
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Well... I've seen this formula.
It's been all over the papers
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the last few clays.
Ancl we've got a copy of it.
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There was a research clone where
he had one of the most perfect
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voices for television.
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Speech therapists from the
Queen Elizabeth Hospital have come
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up with this formula, which
apparently proves that john Motson
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has the best commentary voice.
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A national newspaper,
I think more than one,
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came out with a survey analysing
who had got the best voice.
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I can't put it any better than that.
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And it just turned out it was me!
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The 93rd minute at Old Trafford.
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Ha! When David Beckham scored
the free kick later that day
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and Brooking, for the first time
in his life, probably,
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completely lost it and went
running down the gantry,
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and I was knocking bottles of water
over and goodness knows what
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else, that was the thing
I remember most about that day.
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Beckham...
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Yes! Yes! He's done it!
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David Beckham! Fantastic! It's 2-2!
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And England may still be going
to the World Cup automatically.
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It's a fantastic ending
to a very, very poor performance,
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and he deserves the goal,
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because Beckham has virtually
played Greece on his own.
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I made my debut on Radio 2
in December 1969 with
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a game between Everton
and Derby County.
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But Derby County actually resonates
with me, because, believe it or not,
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my father was a Derby fan
and my son is a Derby fan
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and season-ticket holder.
Oh, right!
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This is our Telegraph
Fantasy Football league team.
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We've not had a particularly great
record in recent years after
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winning it a few years ago,
but as things stand, we are
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top with four games left to play.
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So we're taking it
very seriously indeed!
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I'm glad you mentioned
we won it once,
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because of course
that was back in 2009. Yes.
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It seems a long time ago now! Yeah.
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The family legend is
that when I learnt to speak,
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the first question Dad ever asked me
was, "Who do you support?"
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And apparently, he was
so pleased I didn't sort of say
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a big club like Man United
or Arsenal or anything,
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he was very pleased
that I picked Derby.
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Ancl I was at my first game
about three weeks later!
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Yeah, we've had some fun,
though, haven't we?
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Probably the most common question
I'm asked when people
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find out who my clad is - "Oh, go on,
who does he REALLY support?"
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"He's a Tottenham fan." "He's
a Liverpool fan." Whatever it is.
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And, no, I can categorically
say here that Dad's interest
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is very much
down at the League Two level.
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I don't think he's got
any real favourites
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when it comes to the top clubs.
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No, it was difficult.
Obviously, Barnet, of course,
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was the place where I started
my reporting career, and so I've
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always followed Barnet Football Club
through thick and thin, really,
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ground change and everything.
Hence the shirt!
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My dad and I went probably
to Chelsea more than any other
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ground, but any affection I had
for any individual club really
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went out the window when I started
with Match Of The Day.
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I've known John Motson 62 years.
Incredible, isn't it?
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We first met as 11-year-olds.
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It was at a school called Culford
School, and we were football mad.
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It was a Methodist-based school,
and Motty's father,
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the Reverend William Motson,
was in the Docklands,
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and all those ministers got
free places for their boys.
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For a value of 52 guineas
a year, apparently, yes.
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He came from a Methodist
minister's family.
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Moth] was very upset,
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because we didn't play football
at Culford School.
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You had to play rugby,
which Motty hated.
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Ancl his clad used to go and see
the headmaster, Dr Storey,
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every term to protest about,
"We must play football
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"at Culford School.
My boy wants to play football."
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John seems to have had
a great time at Culford.
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The only complaint we've got on file
is his father writing to
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say that he was a great soccer
enthusiast. "He loathes rugger."
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It was in John's second term,
and I think it had taken John that
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long to work out that Culford
was a rugby school,
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not a football school,
and he wasn't pleased.
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There were two ways in which
we used to relax at school.
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One was a transistor radio,
when we listened to the football,
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and the other was one of the lads
had a record player,
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or you'd call it a gramophone,
almost, now!
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Pop music has always played
a part in my life.
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I'm not so good on stuff
after the seventies.
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After the Who, I kind of
sort of drifted away from it a bit,
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certainly from record buying.
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DON McLEAN: # A long, long time ago
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# I can still remember how that
music used to make me smile... #
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On February the 5th 1972,
American Pie,
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it was top of the charts on the day
Hereford beat Newcastle.
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That was the game that changed
my life and changed my career.
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# And maybe they'd be happy
for a while... #
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Well, on this important day
in Hereford's history,
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they're sitting on walls,
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on floodlight pylons and even in
trees to get a view of this match.
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I've known John longer
than most of my family!
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We met purely by coincidence, and
it was at a time when I constantly
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liked to remind him that I was
marginally more famous than him.
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And Ricky George, who scored
a hat-trick against Newport
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for Barnet in the cup last season,
is on the field as number 12.
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The guy who drove me down
to Hereford was a fella called
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Billy Meadows.
He was their centre forward.
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And he and Ricky George,
who's a big friend of mine,
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they took me down to Hereford.
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And of course, Ronnie Radford's
goal changed everything, didn't it?
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Hello, mate.
You all right?
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For the 2.5-hour journey
to Hereford,
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he asked me about every single
player in the squad.
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I was able to give him
a pen picture of everybody.
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Billy Meadows, the Hereford
centre forward, cost exactly £300.
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And Malcolm MacDonald, the Newcastle
centre forward, cost £180,000.
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So we spent the entire journey
talking about the team,
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and I thought, "He's cute -
I know why he picked me up now!"
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This is George, the substitute.
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Oh, turning well.
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Mallender.
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Meadows heading it on.
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Tremendous spirit
in this Hereford side.
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They're not giving this up,
by any means.
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Radfo rd.
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Now Tudor's gone down for Newcastle.
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Radford again.
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Oh, what a goal! What a goal!
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Radford the scorer! Ronnie Radford!
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We stayed in the same hotel,
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and he introduced me
to the great Jackie Milburn.
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And Jackie Milburn said to me, "You
should be in your bed. It's gone 11.
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"You've got a big game tomorrow."
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Ancl I said, "Well, I'm only sub."
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Ancl he went, "'Only sub'?!
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"You might come on
and score the winning goal."
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George.
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Oh, it's there! He's got it!
Ricky George!
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Ricky George has done it.
What a moment for Hereford!
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Our friendship from that moment
became as close as it would ever be.
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# Did you write the book of love?
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# And do you have faith
in God above?... #
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Billy Meadows drove us home, because
they both lived near me in Barnet.
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And we sat in Billy Meadows'
front room and had fish and chips
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and listened to American Pie
all evening...
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...well, what was left
of the evening,
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until Match Of The Day came on,
when, wonder of wonders, I thought,
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there was my match, which was
supposed to be a three-minute
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edit at the end of the program me,
propelled to the top of the show!
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# He was singing... #
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It's all over! They've done it!
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# ..Miss American Pie
Drove my Chevy to the levee
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# But the levee was dry... #
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But so important for him,
so important,
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because it lifted his career off.
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And I suppose I immodestly might say
I didn't look back after that,
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because the BBC decided
that I was capable
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of being given more important
matches.
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Ancl so it happened, from then on
and for many, many years beyond.
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# Singing
This'll be the day that I die. #
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Well, what happens in here
is memories, really.
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Ricky and Ronnie together
after the game.
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And that was the young commentator
of the day.
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Late at night, I might be there
having a last late whisky.
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There's a picture of me
commentating with Muhammad Ali
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when I was back in radio
in 1974 at the Albert Hall.
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ALI: if I can knock out
the great George Foreman and
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Sonny Liston, I won't have no Joe
Bugner saying he went the distance.
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He must fall! Now I'm going to
watch his show. I'm getting hot.
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I was a reporter, I was doing
bulletins every day, I was going
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to football matches on a Saturday,
I was doing boxing a little bit.
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BELL RINGS
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The bell sounds
for the start of Round 1.
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Your commentator, John Motson.
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And the atmosphere
in the Royal Albert Hall tonight
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so much better, I think, than
many of us feared it might be...
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He did a great summary
of what had happened
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and how he thought Bugner was
far, far too good for this guy.
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And there's the bell, Muhammad Ali,
for the end of the first round.
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Well, in the next round
it'll be all over.
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Lovell just barely made his corner.
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He looks like a man about 50
years old, his legs look big
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and muscly but his knees
are wobbling.
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And when they rang the bell
for the second round,
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he handed the microphone back,
because there was only one
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between us, and then, within
the first ten seconds of the second
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round, joe Bugner demolished Lovell,
and he was on the canvas.
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I said, "Oh, drama here at the
Albert Hall, the crowd, da-di-da...
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"And here's Muhammad Ali's
thoughts on that finish."
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And I looked, and he'd gone.
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COMMENTARY: Bugner's trying
to come over the ropes to him.
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He wants Ali in the ring.
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And Muhammad's going to go.
Muhammad's taking his jacket off.
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He's got his shirt off!
Muhammad's got his shirt off.
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Muhammad Ali had taken his jacket
off, jumped off the chair,
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ducked under the ropes, and now
he was doing this with Bugner,
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saying, "Come on,
why don't you fight me?"
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And Roland Dakin has stepped in
and has liftedjoe Bugner's hand
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and he's declaredjoe the winner
in this side-state contest.
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Have a word with him, Muhammad.
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You get ready.
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I want you to know that you have
earned your shot tonight.
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You beat a hard puncher,
and now go to America...
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I'd just managed to get him to
sign my book before this happened.
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Cos I never saw him again.
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He disappeared under
a welter of people, Ali.
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And there I was, sitting
next to him, and I can actually
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say for just three minutes
of my life
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I commentated with Muhammad Ali.
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And back now to Alan Parry.
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And john Motson climbs into the ring
to have a closer word with
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Joe Bugner. If Muhammad Ali
can still hear me,
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because we're absolutely
surrounded by people...
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Have you got another job today,
Steve? Yeah, I've got a few, yeah.
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Media City and whatever.
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I'm taking Garth Crooks
back later. Are you?
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I take it you know Garth Crooks.
Yeah, very well.
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Yeah, you can give him
my regards, as well!
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He and I are pals, actually. Yeah,
I've known him for a long time.
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We used to travel together
quite a lot.
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I've been part of
the broadcasting Three Stooges -
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Ray Stubbs, Mark Lawrenson
and Garth Crooks.
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I come right at the very end.
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They're trying to get me
to every Premier League ground this
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season - as a farewell tour,
the BBC called it.
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I ought to tell you something,
that sometimes
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when I was working with him,
I felt like his carer,
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but in an absolutely
totally nice way,
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because you had to tell him
what time you were going, where we
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were going, how we were going,
were we getting a taxi,
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what flight we were on,
carry his suitcase.
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Lawro would carry his bag,
I'd carry the newspaper.
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Ancl I carried Motty's glass
for his red wine.
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As long as Motty had
those three things, he was fine.
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People say, "Do you get nervous
before you go to do a commentary?"
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And I don't get nervous
about the commentary at all now,
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but the thing that screws me up
on a Saturday morning is
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"Will I get to the ground
on time?"...
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...even though I'm always there
three hours before.
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Ancl it's fair to say
that Motty does like routine.
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I suppose I've had the same
routine for more or less all
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the 47 seasons or whatever it is
on Match Of The Day.
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I mean, I've always got
to the ground by 12 o'clock.
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This is how daft it is, right?
Two grown-ups, me and Ray Stubbs,
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been in the business quite a long
time, we had a real problem about
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how do we approach the situation,
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which is we're taking him
on the train to the match.
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And he was like, "Whoa, that doesn't
work, that doesn't work."
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Anyway, myself and Stubbsy had done
this journey to the stadium
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a few times to see
a few different games,
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and there was a cafe in
this park that we walked across.
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And we said, "We've even found you
a place where you can have a
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"cheese and ham to as tie," because
that's what he absolutely loved.
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And he looked at us and he went,
"Really?" And we went, "Yeah."
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And he went, "That'll do."
He ended up loving it!
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Afterwards, he was saying,
"Let's get the train the next time.
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"Let's get the train the next time."
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What I really learnt over the years
was how professional he was.
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Like today, I'm going
to Manchester City,
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where Sergio Aguero is one goal away
from the record,
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held by a famous pre-war player
called Eric Brook.
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So there's moments like that
that you've got to capture
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and you've got to be ready for.
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I remember his first
cup final, 1977,
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Manchester United
against Liverpool at Wembley.
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Manchester United
have won the FA Cup.
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Ancl the captain of Manchester United
is Martin Buchan,
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and as Buchan goes up the steps
at Wembley to get the cup,
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Motty says, "How appropriate..."
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...that a man called Buchan
should be the first to climb
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the 39 steps that lead
from the pitch here at Wembley
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to the Royal Box.
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Well, of course, this was
a reference to john Buchan,
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who many years ago wrote
the very famous novel 39 Steps,
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which has twice been a movie.
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Ancl I rang him up the next clay.
I said, "Motty, fantastic homework,
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"but come on, mate, what an anorak.
Brilliant. Well clone."
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Hiya. You OK? just got john Motson
for the BBC. Yeah, that's fine.
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Oh, that was very cool,
wasn't it? Nice lady there.
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You still got it, john!
JOHN LAUGHS
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Well, she was very polite,
wasn't she?
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He's moved with the times
in football. Obviously,
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things were very, very different
when he started, what, 40, 50 years
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ago, and the nature of the game
and the nature of commentating
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and the nature of the way we watch
the game, everything has evolved.
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Where Motty's been smart,
he's evolved with it.
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The main thing, of course,
with Motty, you know
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full well he does his homework,
he does his research.
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He's almost...
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He's kind of...
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...an encyclopaedia of football.
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Ancl his wife, Annie,
does a lot of stuff for him.
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Those there.
Those are the cup replays.
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We see ourselves as a team. He's
done a job which at times can be
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very exacting, and so if I can
do something to help that,
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I'm very willing.
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Well, of course Anne's
black book has been...
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It used to be a red book, years ago.
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She changed the colour,
for some reason.
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It's a lab our of love, this.
And it's always useful to keep them,
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because sometimes something
will happen in a match that
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reminds me of a game
four or five years ago,
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and I might just look up
Anne's book for 1997 or whatever
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and find that there's something
there that will give me the answer.
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At the beginning of each season,
I buy one of these books, and then
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I stick cuttings in
that might be useful,
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statistics from the previous season,
and then each team has its own page.
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So when it comes to john
starting his homework for a match,
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I give him the book and the list
of the scorers for those teams,
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and then I give everything to john
and he starts his match preparation.
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Basically, it's a simple situation.
All the stuff that I've gathered
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during the week - one side
of the board is every player,
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and they're done in felt-tip pen
to make them stand out a bit,
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and next to each player I do a...
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I wouldn't say
it's a potted biography,
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it's probably one line or just
something about them which is
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currently interesting
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that if they do something
in the game I could use.
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And then on the back,
Anne always lists the goal-scorers
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for each club out of her black book.
So that's always handy - I can tell
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whether it's somebody's first goal
of the season or not.
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Simon. Hello, Simon! Have you got
the City team? I do. Good lad.
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I'm going to read them out to you.
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All right, all right, all right,
steady down, steady down.
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Right, City. Go on. 31, Ederson.
Yes. 2, Kyle Walker. Yes.
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It is my reassurance that I've got
something somewhere if somebody
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suddenly becomes important in the
moments leading up to the kick-off.
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I've known players get injured
in the warm-up, and they've gone
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off with the referee's permission
and been replaced by somebody else,
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hopefully somebody else
who's on your board somewhere.
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10, Aguero. Good. I'm pleased
about that. 17, De Bruyne. Yeah.
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33, Jesus. 20 I've got Mangala.
Ancl... Mangala, what's his number?
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Hold on.
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29, Pope.
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But one day - it was the final of
the Euros, and it was France-Italy -
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I'm sat next to him, Garth Crooks
was just sat the other side of him.
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Oh, do I remember this!
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Now, there's one man in this stadium
making his 12th appearance
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in a major final.
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Not a player or indeed a coach,
but our very own John Motson.
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John, 12 finals,
even more tournaments.
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Does this rank up there with the
best of them? I think it does, Gary.
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I've just been checking my team
sheet, by the way, very carefully,
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to make sure Zidane is playing
after what happened two years ago.
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I just made a mistake
at half-time as I leaned over.
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I knocked a whole bottle
of water over his sheet.
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Well, I get this nudge
from Lawro, and I go...
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Oh, I'm looking over here.
He goes...
456
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,855
I just watched as he just... I don't
know what colour it ended up.
457
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,775
All the colours washed in together.
458
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,495
I'm looking, I'm looking at this...
459
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,335
You can't see anything!
You can't see a word!
460
00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:14,695
I could hear Crooksy
sniggering and looking away.
461
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,975
And Mottyjust kind of looked at it,
462
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,495
and you'd have thought
I'd cut his arm off.
463
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,135
Ancl Motty picks up his notes,
looks at him...
464
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,655
And I just went, "john,
you know all that stuff anyway."
465
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,895
And he was a man for a sigh.
He used to go...
466
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,455
HE SIGHS EXPANSIVELY
467
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,495
And the game went to Golden Goal,
468
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,215
and I'll tell you now, that was
one of his best commentaries ever.
469
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,895
Pires got it for France.
470
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,695
And it's Pires.
Trezeguet is waiting in the centre.
471
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,215
Trezeguet!
472
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,775
France have won
the European Championship
473
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,295
to add to the World Cup!
474
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,095
The first nation ever
to do it that way round.
475
00:24:53,120 --> 00:24:55,495
He'd clone his prep.
It had been clone.
476
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,615
That was like a comfort blanket.
No notes. It was all in here.
477
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:07,935
I first met john at the World Cup
finals, I believe it was in Spain.
478
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,095
Now, I can't remember too much,
because, as is my won't, I tend
479
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:14,855
to get a little drunk when watching
football, especially Scotland.
480
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,615
But I know this is hackneyed,
481
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,295
but genuinely a wonderful
working-class fella. You know?
482
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,095
I've got no time for
show-business people that
483
00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:27,215
hide their backgrounds or try
and be something that they're not.
484
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,455
For me, he was
right down the middle.
485
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,495
I used to have a team called
the Vagabonds that played in Essex,
486
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,135
and I was a player in those clays.
487
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,895
Ancl he brought his team down,
called the TV journalists or
488
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,215
TV Reporters, something like that.
489
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,455
John was full-back
and I was right midfield,
490
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,335
so he and I were coming against
each other all the time.
491
00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:50,135
Ancl at one point, he said,
"Would you stop running?!"...
492
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,575
...because he wasn't as fit as I am!
493
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,055
I remember he had a funny old pair
of shin pads. They didn't match.
494
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,735
Did I get a tea or a coffee?
It's waiting for you. Wonderful.
495
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,695
Let's go and do that bloke's picture
who shouted at me as we came...
496
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,455
And then let's go in the main
entrance. Yeah. No worries at all.
497
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,215
He gives the impression of
being slightly odd sometimes,
498
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,655
but we've all got
different mannerisms.
499
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,775
Ancl he's a caring bloke,
and he's interesting.
500
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,175
Right, sir. Are you ready?
501
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,295
Legend.
Thank you.
502
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,735
He appealed across the board.
503
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:31,615
My mum used to love him. Absolutely
adored him. She's passed on now.
504
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,655
He's revered, you see?
Everywhere he goes, they love him.
505
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,055
It's like, "Here comes Mr Football,"
in this country.
506
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,575
"Here's the voice of football."
507
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,095
John. Yes, all right.
On that side, please. OK.
508
00:26:41,120 --> 00:26:44,375
City were playing Aston Villa
years and years ago,
509
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,975
and Martin O'Neill was the manager,
and we went to see him.
510
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:54,535
Ancl in walks john Motson, and I was
like, "No way! I can't believe it!"
511
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,935
Because ever since
I've been watching football,
512
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,295
I've been listening to him,
and it was, like, such a, "Wow!"
513
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:04,375
It kind of blew me away.
He had a sheepskin coat on,
514
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:09,375
and he was carrying a program me
and some notes. Course he was!
515
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,215
I told me mates,
"I've just met john Motson."
516
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,215
They were more interested
in that than anything.
517
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,695
They were like, "What's he like?"
518
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,135
I said, "He's just like
he is on the telly."
519
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,215
There you are, mate.
Thank you very much. Pleasure.
520
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,695
Fans banter with him...
521
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,135
You keep my pass for a minute, yeah.
522
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,655
...with his sheepskin. "All right!"
Ancl he used to wave.
523
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,095
Ancl sometimes the gantry was
round the other side of the pitch,
524
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:33,455
so he had to walk
round half the pitch.
525
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,215
"All right, Motty!" He'd go,
"Yeah, OK!" And he's waving away.
526
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,255
He gets his little head down
and he's shuffling along.
527
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:44,335
Thank you. Thank you. How are you,
boys? Bless you. I love the coat!
528
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:45,855
Thank you!
529
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:52,655
It's hard when people say, "What's
it like being John Motson's son?"
530
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,815
I say, "Well, I've not been
anybody else's son,
531
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,455
"so it's hard to know what it would
be like not to be." Good line.
532
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,975
It is legendary that Dad was
in the boardroom at Watford
533
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,055
while I was coming into the world.
534
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,735
Whenever he's appeared at Watford -
and he's appeared many times -
535
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,495
he's always been
a breath of fresh air,
536
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,695
and of course I love
to talk football with him.
537
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,095
Unsurprisingly, I was
at a football match in Watford
538
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:19,175
when Anne decided she had to be
rushed to the hospital.
539
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,095
And I got a phone call
in the early hours
540
00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:25,095
to say that Fred had been born.
541
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,455
John had parked the car for a quick
getaway, but he got snowed in.
542
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,495
So, having missed visiting hours,
Graham Taylor took him to the
543
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,975
boardroom, and I was there,
and Graham persisted in ringing
544
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,015
the hospital until
he got an answer about Annie.
545
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,375
The first person who rang
the hospital was Graham Taylor,
546
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,935
which was very, very nice.
547
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,655
Ancl Graham Taylor and Elton john
were the first people to find out,
548
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,415
because that's who Dad was
stuck in the boardroom with!
549
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,655
Even though he was only
a few hours old,
550
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,655
football had already
started to take a hold.
551
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,855
Well, I do think he's got bad
weather as a bit of an excuse there.
552
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,095
Motty loves his job. You can tell
that. He's loved it for so long.
553
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,135
You couldn't survive
in this industry without having
554
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,015
a real passion for your job
and for football,
555
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,735
and he's clearly got that
and he's always had that.
556
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,855
I thought I'd look nice
in that shirt and tie,
557
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,615
and now I'm going to
cover it all up.
558
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,655
You look fine!
Well, it's going to
559
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,255
be sheepskin weather now,
definitely.
560
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,215
It's a bit like... I don't know,
like a famous actor who's absolutely
561
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:34,175
brilliant on stage but can be a bit
umfy, just trying to get them...
562
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,295
Motty was like that.
563
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,375
We can get to the tunnel down here,
Adrian! You can't go down that way.
564
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,615
JOHN SIGHS
Go this way.
565
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,295
He'd pace up and down,
he'd talk to himself.
566
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,775
Jesus!
567
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,295
Yes, he's quirky.
568
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,975
Yes, he can huff and puff and
have a kind of bit of a meltdown.
569
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,495
I've heard a couple in talk back
over the years.
570
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,135
We'll start a single of Motty
on seven. Can Andrew hear me?
571
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,815
Yes, john, I can hear you, yeah.
I'm just suggesting that really
572
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,495
we ought to let Mike Summerbee
hear what precedes this.
573
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,135
What are the chances of giving Mike
an earpiece? Why can't we have
574
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,655
a pair of headphones
for the interviewee?!
575
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,375
We're working on it, mate.
576
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,855
I remember one game. I think it was
in the Germany World Cup somewhere.
577
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,815
We were in Hanover,
and I went upstairs,
578
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,815
got to the commentary position,
and the stand opposite was really
579
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,535
low but the sun was still quite
high, and it was a broiling sun.
580
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,375
The game was about to start
and we were about to hand,
581
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,815
and I could hear him flustering
in the background.
582
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,895
Ancl the sun was just above
the far stand.
583
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,335
Ancl our studio was
actually on the same side,
584
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,735
so I sort of saw what he meant.
He couldn't really see.
585
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,615
Ancl I remember him
shouting to someone,
586
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,975
because I nearly corpsed on air.
587
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,215
He didn't even look up
from his notes,
588
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,855
he just held his hand up and pointed
at the position of the sun
589
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,735
and he went,
"Do something about that!"
590
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,055
I remember him
shouting to someone, going,
591
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,415
"Somebody do something
about the sun!"
592
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,735
And me and Karen Graham,
who was looking after him -
593
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,935
Karen was always with him,
she was great for him -
594
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,015
she looked at me
and I looked at her,
595
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,815
and I just went, "What do you
want us to do about it? Lower it?
596
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,775
"Get rid of it? Whatever."
And he just never even flinched.
597
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,775
Never even... "Do something
about that." Brilliant.
598
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,455
You know what I'm like,
I worry about everything.
599
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,375
But I can understand with John,
600
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,895
if you're a commentator,
you walk on and you go on air
601
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,215
and you make a terrible blunder
about someone's on the ball
602
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,415
and it's not that person, I can
understand why he would get nervous.
603
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,975
But what I did say to him, I said,
"Listen, mate, this is what you do!
604
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,895
"Relax!" Ancl he did, he took it in.
605
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:47,255
John's qualities as a television
broadcaster stem a great deal
606
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:52,095
from his meticulous thoroughness
towards everything that he does.
607
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,575
You're respected by everybody
at this football club, and let's
608
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,295
make this clay a very special clay
for you, because you're John Motson
609
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,895
and you're a very special person.
Well, that's very kind of you.
610
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,255
The only thing that could make it
really special would be
611
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,655
if Aguero played
and broke that scoring record.
612
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,815
"You fail to prepare
and you prepare to fail"
613
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,415
is a motto that he
has carried forward.
614
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,815
Careful! Good job I did
have hold of you there!
615
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,775
THEY LAUGH
616
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,215
He will spend hours and hours
dredging up the most unlikely
617
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,935
statistics, and some of them
will go in that opening that he
618
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,815
so carefully crafts.
619
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,375
Can I just write my introduction
first? Thanks. Thanks very much.
620
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,615
But the more important work
that he does in
621
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,735
preparation for a game
is using his contacts,
622
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,815
using the trust and respect
that people who earn their living
623
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,655
from managing football teams
and playing football have for him,
624
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,215
and they are prepared to take him
into their confidence.
625
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,055
Hello, John, how are you?
626
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,215
Manchester City-Ipswich semifinal,
extra time, free kick. Indeed! Hey?
627
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,735
You've got a better memory than me!
I remember that goal so well.
628
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,335
Power!
629
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,615
Oh, I say, what a goal!
630
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,335
The skipper, who has scored
in every cup match bar one!
631
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,175
But up here he's got a picture
of how the game is going to be
632
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,215
played, because he has
spoken to both camps.
633
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,015
And so you've got somebody with
an overview of the game which is
634
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,215
far better than anybody else
who is actually...
635
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,975
Either manager, they haven't got
the same overview that he's got.
636
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,895
Let me just tell you something here.
637
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:27,655
Aguero has scored 176 goals
in 261 appearances...
638
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,495
John was very well respected.
Ancl because people knew that
639
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,775
when he came to speak to you,
he was doing his research...
640
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,815
He'd get to the game
and he'd meet the players.
641
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,575
He made it his business to know
everybody and talk to everybody.
642
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,015
His research would include you
or even the fact that he's
643
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,335
kind of giving you an insight
into the opposition.
644
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,015
He starts you thinking about
the game maybe in a different way.
645
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,455
Dave Beasant was looking forward
to this moment so much,
646
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,175
I know from speaking to him
during the week, the big goalkeeper,
647
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,895
the first keeper, we think,
to captain an FA Cup final side.
648
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:06,455
So we went through a few scenarios,
and then he said, you know...
649
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,935
..."What will you do
if john Aldridge gets a penalty?"
650
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,655
Ancl he said, "Because
he hasn't missed a penalty this
651
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,575
"season and there's never, ever been
a penalty saved in a cup final."
652
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,055
There is Aldridge. Beardsley.
653
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,055
Well, he might score here.
654
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,735
Penalty.
655
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,415
Goodyear on Aldridge.
Wimbledon protest.
656
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,255
I just went through the process.
657
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,415
"If I stand still, I think
he'll put it to my left, because
658
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,295
"by the time he does a stutter, the
goalkeeper tends to start moving.
659
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,575
"He sees him going and just
puts the ball the other side."
660
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,495
Ancl he said, "Well, thanks, Dave,"
as he always does.
661
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,815
"Thanks, Dave, I appreciate that."
662
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,495
Dave Beasant in the week told me
663
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,495
that he's been watching
where Aldridge puts his kicks.
664
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:54,015
Beasant thought the kick might go to
his left, or the right as we look.
665
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,295
But the fact that he was prepared
666
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,095
and he was focused on that
eventuality, there could be a cup
667
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:05,215
final penalty, it could be the first
one to be saved, it could be you...
668
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,895
He did, and he's saved it!
669
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,215
And made history!
670
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:14,415
He's clone all right there, Motty.
He's clone very well,
671
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,695
because he literally pre-empted
everything that was going to happen.
672
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:22,415
Ancl listening to it, I can still
recall, "And Dave told me in the
673
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,335
"week that if there was a penalty,
that he felt that john Aldridge..."
674
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,815
Ancl literally step by step he'd clone
it, "And he said he would go to...
675
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,655
"And he's saved it!"
676
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,695
Oh, the tension here!
677
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:35,655
Oh! And there it is!
678
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:41,135
The Crazy Gang have beaten
the Culture Club!
679
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,695
Many's the time he's driven
past Wembley on his way to work,
680
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:46,335
Dave Beasant.
He lives just down the road.
681
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,895
But today he must feel like a king,
682
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,335
going up to receive the treasured
prize from a princess.
683
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,495
It's a weird and wonderful world
if you come from Wimbledon.
684
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,375
Jesus!
685
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,415
Oh, God, I've lost
my glasses case again.
686
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,455
How are you, mate?
Good to see you!
687
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,575
Well, I'm in the presence
of the master here.
688
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,335
I've been watching you again. Have
a good one, john. Thank you, Guy.
689
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,455
We'll get you miked up here.
690
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,335
Nice to see you.
Thank you.
691
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,095
How are you? Pleased to meet you.
How are you? I'm good.
692
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,935
Very good to see you. And you. You
all right? Yeah, you're doing well.
693
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,495
I wouldn't have clone this for
anyone else but you. I know that.
694
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,135
Thank you. Motty and Trevor, that
was like...it was famous,
695
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,015
part of the... It was a national
institution, I think, john.
696
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,695
Well, it was funny, because
I was with Trevor and his wife
697
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:39,815
and my wife at Wembley
last night, and somebody
698
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:46,455
mentioned the World Cup and Brazil,
when the team sheet thing blew up.
699
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,735
Let's move inside the stadium now
and join Gary,
700
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,375
and he's with David Ginola.
701
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,615
Welcome to a very shocked
Stacie de France this evening.
702
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,815
David, we have to start with the
big news that Ronaldo's not playing.
703
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,895
Apparently, the Brazilian television
channel O Globo, Pele,
704
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,015
everybody's running around
in total disbelief.
705
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,975
What about this Ronaldo business?
Let's go inside the stadium.
706
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,855
John M0ts0n's our match commentator
for the final. There he is
707
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,575
with Trevor Brooking, of course.
What do you make of it all, john?
708
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,015
Desmond, I've never had
anything like this in my career.
709
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,535
The most crucial piece
of information for john is the
710
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,735
team sheets coming in.
711
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,215
Ancl when the team sheet arrived
and Ronaldo's name wasn't on it,
712
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:23,775
well, obviously...
713
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,695
Motty was in his element. And he had
Brooking alongside him, as well,
714
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:30,255
and it all got a bit mental.
But it was brilliant telly!
715
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,695
The first sheet which you showed,
which allegedly now is wrong,
716
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:35,855
which said that Ronaldo
would not play,
717
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,735
came up into the commentary boxes
about 40 minutes ago,
718
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,375
and the response was incredible.
719
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,975
There were journalists
and commentators racing around,
720
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,895
trying to find out
the truth behind it.
721
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,735
I'm not sure Trevor didn't go
and get a cup of tea pretty quickly.
722
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,375
I wandered off, because I thought,
"Well, there's no point in me
723
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,295
"standing there while Motson's
getting more and more irate."
724
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,055
Trevor said to me,
"Oh, Ray Stubbs is there.
725
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,815
"Get him to go and ask Pele,"
726
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,575
because he was one of
the Brazilian commentators, Pele.
727
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,895
My colleague Ray Stubbs raced across
to ask Pele, of all people,
728
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,655
what the news was. Pete's reaction
was a little bit of...
729
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,535
He shrugged his shoulders
and just shook his head.
730
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,895
I took that as "I don't know".
731
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,135
And Ray rushed down about
three tiers, came back, he said,
732
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,535
"Even Pele doesn't know!"
733
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,335
He was absolutely bewildered
by the whole experience.
734
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,415
And here's the second team sheet,
which says Ronaldo plays
735
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,095
and Edmundo is a substitute.
736
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,415
And then of course the sheet came
round again and he was in the team!
737
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,095
Yeah.
Ronaldo, yeah.
738
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,015
We can't get down there to
actually find out what's happened,
739
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,775
but I think Trevor Brooking's
next... Well, he IS next to me!
740
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,695
THEY LAUGH
741
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:43,775
I'm fit at the moment.
He's definitely starting the game.
742
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,295
So what do you think about it?
Well, it's bizarre.
743
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,975
It was all going all over the place.
It was the biggest story about
744
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,535
someone in a starting line-up
you could ever imagine.
745
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,215
But then he gets the team sheet
where he is playing.
746
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:58,375
Ancl of course if john Motson says
he's playing, then he's playing.
747
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,375
Drama over. "Go and get us
a beer out the fridge.
748
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,895
"This game is now allowed
to kick off."
749
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,095
It's hopeless, this.
It's absolutely hopeless.
750
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,295
I had a nice Nokia once,
and it was so simple.
751
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,695
And now they've made them
more and more complicated,
752
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:12,495
and I can't work it.
753
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:18,735
Motty as a bloke - a gentleman.
Doesn't like confrontation.
754
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,455
Doesn't like being upset.
755
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,895
I know Brian Clough upset him
once or twice.
756
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,815
I think Ferguson did,
Sir Alex Ferguson did, as well.
757
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,135
I was brought up
as an actual working journalist,
758
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,655
and I was actually told to ask
questions that demanded an answer,
759
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,615
not, you know, "Well, that was
760
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,095
"a good day for you today,
Roberto," or whatever.
761
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,815
OK, this is john going ahead
with Alex for Match Of The Day.
762
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,695
I remember with Sir Alex Ferguson,
763
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,095
asking him about Roy Keane's
disciplinary record.
764
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,215
I appreciate you keep
your disciplinary action inside the
765
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:50,175
club, but is the Roy Keane situation
one that you'll have to address?
766
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,095
John, you've no right to ask
that question. You're out of order.
767
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,015
You know fine well
my ruling on that. Right?
768
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,575
That's the interview finished.
769
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,735
Then he just threw the microphone
off and stalked up the tunnel
770
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,415
and turned round and swore at me.
771
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,775
I'm going now, and I want to
cancel that interview, right?
772
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,055
The whole BLEEP lot of it.
Cancel it.
773
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,535
BLEEP else here.
774
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:15,175
But I would say, the next time you
saw him, it was quickly forgotten.
775
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,575
And I always remember
how supportive he was
776
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,975
when he first came
to Manchester United.
777
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,295
He used to be very,
778
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,255
very available and he would
give you his phone number.
779
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,575
And of course it had to change
over the years,
780
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,855
because he became so much in demand.
781
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,695
But there was a heart there.
782
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:36,535
After the match, john Motson talked
to the Derby manager, Brian Clough.
783
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,375
When Barry Davies and I
were doing Match Of The Day
784
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:43,135
in the seventies and eighties,
it was more or less a given
785
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,055
that when the game was over,
786
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,335
you interviewed the winning
manager on the pitch.
787
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,055
Well, Brian, welcome back to Match
Of The Day. A good day for you,
788
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,135
although I suspect you think you
might have had rather more goals.
789
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,935
I feel we could have clone, but
we're quite happy with what we got.
790
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,855
I'm delighted to be back
on Match Of The Day, personally.
791
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:01,375
You're good judges, of course,
792
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,175
because you've had Derby County on
several times this season.
793
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,615
Yeah, we had some fun.
He called me names once at Arsenal,
794
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,335
and then he gave me
a glass of whisky and said,
795
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,575
"Forget all about it."
It was just Cloughie.
796
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,535
I think we find football
too much on television.
797
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,215
You and your colleagues
are turning us off from family
798
00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:23,175
entertainment on a Saturday night
by lecturing us at the moment.
799
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,255
Could you enlarge on that?
I'd love to.
800
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,935
I mean, he was a joy to work with,
even if you were on the other
801
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,175
end of one of his rants,
which I was on many occasions.
802
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,615
I think you've gone over
the dividing line where you have a
803
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,975
contribution to make to one of being
dogmatic, overbearing, boring...
804
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,935
I can't remember what the question
was, but he said to me...
805
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,215
IMITATES CLOUGH: "..and maybe, john,
at some point you'll realise
806
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:49,455
"we're not a bad side!"
807
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,495
Don't be rude, John,
inciting me to get the sack.
808
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,935
JOHN LAUGHS
809
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,495
I've got two ambitions. I'm going
to see you and Barry Davies off.
810
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,255
There's a picture
right over in the far
811
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,695
corner of Barry Davies,
jimmy Hill and I.
812
00:42:05,720 --> 00:42:07,415
Jimmy was the presenter then
and Barry
813
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,815
and I were the two main
commentators.
814
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,015
BARRY DAVIES: The West Ham team
showing the changing
815
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,495
face of the side during
the course of the season,
816
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,255
Trevor Brooking emerging
as an England player.
817
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,215
The commentator was viewed
very differently then.
818
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:24,295
I mean, there was
so much chat about commentators.
819
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,975
There weren't that many.
820
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,855
The battle between Barry and I
went on for many years.
821
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,975
We both had our moments,
and we remained, believe it or not,
822
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,535
very good friends.
823
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,015
But a typical run from Emlyn Hughes,
the head slightly down...
824
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,495
And it was a rivalry
because they were different.
825
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,375
They were different types of people,
and they commentated
826
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,255
and approached their commentary work
in different ways.
827
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,255
So the head of sport actually had
a genuine decision to take.
828
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,495
When it came to the cup final,
which of course it did
829
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,175
in the seventies, it was clear that
830
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,775
only one of us could do it,
Barry or I.
831
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,455
We couldn't both sit
in the same chair!
832
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,375
Just looking along the line there,
I've met several commentators today
833
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,655
who we're used to seeing at World
Cups and European Championships.
834
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,695
You had to try and make sure
that week in,
835
00:43:11,720 --> 00:43:15,455
week out you were doing
your commentary as well,
836
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,615
hopefully better, than he was,
and he'd be thinking the same.
837
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,695
Case. Good turn!
838
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:26,415
Oh, yes! A brilliant goal
by jimmy Case.
839
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,495
As a team, the Davies-Motson thing
worked out quite well
840
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,295
for the BBC, because we were totally
different types of commentators.
841
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,215
Lee.
842
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:37,935
Interesting.
843
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,655
Very interesting!
844
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,495
Oh!
845
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,975
Look at his face!
just look at his face!
846
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,255
Barry started to get
one or two more of the big games,
847
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,975
and Motty was suddenly thinking,
"Am I being edged out?"
848
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,215
I remember the World Cup
in the United States,
849
00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:01,775
and Motty had just been told that
he wasn't doing the World Cup final.
850
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,735
And I remember
Motty was just in pieces.
851
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,095
Ancl I gather Motty
was told by telephone
852
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,735
and that he was in a bar at
the time, celebrating his birthday.
853
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,855
I think somebody could have been a
bit kinder. Maybe they didn't know.
854
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,775
The man who really has brought
855
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,255
the team to the final
now has to save them.
856
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,935
And doesn't'.!
857
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,335
It's over the top.
858
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:33,495
Brazil have won
the World Cup of 1994.
859
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,335
What would you say has been
the hardest thing he's ever had
860
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,215
to do as a commentator?
861
00:44:44,240 --> 00:44:46,015
Well, I would think Hillsborough...
862
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,455
...was just terrible.
863
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,535
When you consider all the places
I've been with him
864
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,095
around the world and all the time
I've spent with him - planes,
865
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:01,375
trains, automobiles, everything -
he's never mentioned Hillsborough.
866
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,935
Hello. Two of our greatest sporting
events dominate Grandstand today.
867
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,135
It's FA Cup semifinal day,
868
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,415
and Hillsborough,
as it has so often before,
869
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,895
provides an impressive setting for
Liverpool vs Nottingham Forest,
870
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,095
a repeat of last season's...
FADES OUT
871
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,735
I've never sat down and had
a long discussion with Dad
872
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,735
because I don't think it's a clay
he particularly likes to remember.
873
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,655
I know it's something
that really affected Dad
874
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,215
and it's really something
that weighed on him, to be there.
875
00:45:32,240 --> 00:45:34,415
It's a very nice day, isn't it?
876
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,095
Yes, it is. It's beautiful up here.
877
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,135
Well, the thing I remember most
about Hillsborough,
878
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,175
and it's resonated with me
many, many times,
879
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,575
was that in the build-up to the
start of the game,
880
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,055
john Shrewsbury, the producer,
and I had to agree
881
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,015
a way of getting in to
the commentary.
882
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,895
We're just going to rehearse
the opening again now, chaps.
883
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,735
In full sequence.
884
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,055
And we were panning round the ground
looking at the supporters,
885
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,735
and I vividly remember
saying to john Shrewsbury,
886
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,535
"I can't talk about
the packed Liverpool end
887
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,375
"because there are huge gaps
on the two wing terraces."
888
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,575
There's gaps, you know,
in parts of the ground.
889
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:13,455
Well, you look at the Liverpool end
to the right of the goal.
890
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,535
There's hardly anybody
on those steps.
891
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,375
No, to the right of there.
That's it. Look down there.
892
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,495
I could see the steps,
because there weren't hardly anybody
893
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,335
standing there.
894
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,055
COMMENTARY: ..last year, have been
allocated the top end.
895
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,215
Liverpool's faithful followers,
fed on success for 25 years,
896
00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:32,495
are at the Leppings Lane end.
897
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,935
They have 24,000 tickets
898
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,975
and haven't seen their team lose
since New Year's Day.
899
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,135
And of course what happened
afterwards was that
900
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,415
sadly many fans saw their way clear
to going down the central tunnel
901
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,775
and that's where the tragedy
occurred.
902
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,695
That's Hansen.
903
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,535
I think there may be a slight
overflow in the crowd
904
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,655
at the Liverpool end, at the
Leppings Lane end of the ground.
905
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:07,055
But there is room in the sections
to either side
906
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,615
if they can shift them over.
907
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,055
From where I was sitting,
I had no idea of
908
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,375
the enormity of the tragedy
at first.
909
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,975
Er, I could see people
running across the pitch.
910
00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:20,935
That's Gaynor out on the right.
911
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,975
And there are fans
on the pitch here,
912
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,535
in the six-yard area.
913
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,495
The referee's going to have
to stop the game.
914
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,575
There's an overflow behind the goal
915
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,695
and the police inspector
is on the pitch.
916
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,135
And they've come through
the barriers -
917
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,855
I can only think
that's overcrowding.
918
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,575
It doesn't look to me to be
any sort of misbehaviour.
919
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,375
VOICE OVER: One minute I was
commentating on a football match,
920
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,375
and the next minute
I was a news reporter
921
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,815
updating people on what was
happening at the ground,
922
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,895
all of which I couldn't be sure
about from where I was.
923
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,775
You can see there they're being
helped up by people in the seats.
924
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,375
But there are clearly people stunned
and concussed.
925
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,335
He was basically the one who was...
926
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,215
The man who was telling everybody
927
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:07,215
as well as he possibly could
exactly what had happened.
928
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:09,375
Johihjohn.
929
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,615
I do think they need to get
someone on Grandstand quickly here.
930
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,015
I remember I put the television on
during the afternoon
931
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:20,015
just to see the scores
and what was happening,
932
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:23,975
and then left it on
just sitting there.
933
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,175
Well, yes, john, I can only assume
the problem started
934
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,375
with overcrowding
at the Leppings Lane end.
935
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,935
From where I'm sitting,
that section was occupied
936
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:36,415
by segregated... Thousands of
segregated Liverpool supporters,
937
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,855
but as they came over the barriers
or through the barriers,
938
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,495
people were injured at the front,
I think,
939
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,335
and I have to say
that it was crushing
940
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,295
that seems from here to have caused
the accidents and the injuries.
941
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,935
They all had to keep working
and telling the story.
942
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,135
But, like everybody,
they were in the dark.
943
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,495
They didn't really know the enormity
of what was happening.
944
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,255
Yeah, well, I'll do a report,
but I need information.
945
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,495
Des has gone down now.
946
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,015
Sorry, say that again?
947
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,015
Des, it's john Motson here.
Yes, john.
948
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,855
I'll do about 30 seconds
when they come back
949
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,415
and then I'll say, "Desmond Lynam's
down at pitch level-
950
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,935
"can you tell us any more, Des?"
951
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,455
It was a tragedy in the making, and
952
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,015
I had to be very careful
what I said,
953
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,495
because one of the things
I was taught in television was
954
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,535
never assume too much when you're
dealing with an issue like that,
955
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,295
and don't start quoting people's
injuries and that sort of thing.
956
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,055
But I remember jimmy Hill
being with me
957
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,095
and I remember him
pointing down to the pitch
958
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,975
and, er, a supporter receiving
the kiss of life from a policeman,
959
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,255
and then I realised that
960
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,895
we were dealing with something
far beyond football.
961
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,775
Well, it's tragic in every way.
962
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,175
It's...
FADE OUT
963
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,055
He had to keep things going
964
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:54,455
when he didn't know 100%
of what was going on.
965
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,335
He could presumably see people
in front of his eyes
966
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,575
who...were clearly
not in a good way.
967
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,135
Yes, Bob. I have to say, all the
reports you've been receiving
968
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,855
from me have been from high up
above the grandstand
969
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,935
in the television camera position,
970
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,575
and on an afternoon which started
in such bright sunshine,
971
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,255
with such optimism,
in such high spirits,
972
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,215
and now the faces tell the story
973
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:21,055
of what's occurred
here at Hillsborough.
974
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,575
When I went downstairs and realised
what we were witnessing,
975
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,335
er, it was in all my years
in football
976
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,215
the worst moment
in terms of football tragedy.
977
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,975
Barry was the first person
to ring John after Hillsborough.
978
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,175
Because I think Barry
was at the Heysel Stadium,
979
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,895
so he...was speaking from the heart.
980
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,535
I phoned him because...
981
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,935
He would have known that I knew
what he was feeling.
982
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:11,055
Ancl by just sort of phoning to say,
"How are you, john?"
983
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,975
Was...
984
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,255
I don't know. It was...
985
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,135
You know, it was just an instinctive
thing, as far as I can remember.
986
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:23,095
I have no recollection of what was
actually said in the telephone call,
987
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,615
and I would doubt if he has.
988
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,575
It really, really was very raw.
989
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,295
His love and belief in football
that summer
990
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,175
might have deserted him.
991
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,935
It's a crisp autumnal afternoon
in the north-west
992
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,855
and it's the crispness
of City's passing
993
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,495
that Burnley have got to
try and come to terms with.
994
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,055
Motty's been hugely helpful to many
commentators and young people
995
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,015
making their way in television.
He was helpful to me.
996
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,175
And here's Sane. Oh, penalty!
997
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,015
He was probably the commentator
that I admired most
998
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,615
when I was a wannabe on local radio.
999
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,975
Ancl given the fact that
I was actually around him
1000
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,255
before some of his television
commentaries in my early clays,
1001
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,975
I think I probably just copied him.
1002
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,175
But my question now is,
does Aguero take the penalty
1003
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,775
and equal Eric Brook's record?
1004
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,295
He's done it!
1005
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,615
Sergio Aguero, 177 goals!
1006
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,095
Motty is incredibly giving
1007
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,455
when it comes to people wanting to
get into the broadcasting industry -
1008
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,775
if you write to him
and want any advice, he writes back.
1009
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,615
"Dear Ian. Thank you for your letter
1010
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,015
"asking about a career
in sports broadcasting.
1011
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,455
"I'm happy to tell you
how it came about for me
1012
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,375
"although I ought to point out
that enthusiasm and opportunity
1013
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,495
"are the two big things you need."
1014
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,415
When John sent me the letter,
I mean, I was made up.
1015
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:58,055
But I mean, I bombarded,
on the back of his letter,
1016
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:02,375
I bombarded every local radio
station in the north of England
1017
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,495
asking for experience.
I did get the rejections
1018
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,095
as he anticipated,
but I kept on going
1019
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,335
and 30 years on, here I am
at BBC Radio 5 Live.
1020
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,975
Good evening, Jason, good evening,
Laura. The team news -
1021
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,855
both sides have made five changes
for this FA Cup quarterfinal...
1022
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,975
The information and the guidance
that john has provided
1023
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,775
has been absolutely invaluable.
1024
00:53:31,240 --> 00:53:35,815
There've been one or two sort of
little mementos over the years
1025
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,655
that have come out of the England
trips in particular
1026
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,895
because I went to 49 countries
altogether with the England team.
1027
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,255
There was a terrific sense
of responsibility with England.
1028
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,615
I think you felt, you know,
you were almost speaking
1029
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,535
on behalf of the nation, if that's
not putting it too strongly.
1030
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,455
I know I did
over 100 England matches.
1031
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,935
It might have even got to 150.
1032
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,575
But you were at the centre of
1033
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,975
the England experience,
as I would call it.
1034
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,615
And although it wasn't really
as successful as it might have been,
1035
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,535
and we kept losing on penalty
shoot-outs and stuff like that,
1036
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,695
covering an England game,
it was something special.
1037
00:54:10,720 --> 00:54:16,095
It was a commentary apart from
the regular domestic league games
1038
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,895
that you did the rest of the time.
1039
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,215
Here's Michael Owen now.
1040
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:22,375
My favourite England game, I guess,
1041
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,535
must have been the 5-1 win
in Germany.
1042
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,455
Owen's through again for England!
1043
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,375
What a chance for the hat-trick
here.
1044
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:29,775
Owen!
1045
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,735
Oh, this is getting better
and better and better!
1046
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,855
We all thought we were going to
go on and win the World Cup,
1047
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,815
and a few months later Germany
were in the final and we were out.
1048
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,495
There's no point in me hiding it.
1049
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,095
The big disappointment is that
I never got to see them in a final,
1050
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,935
either in the World Cup
or in the European Championship.
1051
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,535
We got close.
1052
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,775
Obviously the semifinal in Turin is
the one that people will point to.
1053
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,855
MUSIC: Nessun Dorma by Pavarotti
1054
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,095
Appealing for offside,
and they're in trouble!
1055
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,615
Augenthaler couldn't do it!
Lineker probably could!
1056
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,295
And England have equalised!
1057
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,375
It's Gary Lineker!
1058
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,415
Gary got the equaliser
and we all thought,
1059
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,375
"Well, maybe this IS going to be
it."
1060
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,855
The ace marksman keeps England
in the World Cup!
1061
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,295
The Gazza tears, of course,
1062
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,935
which everybody says rebranded
English football.
1063
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:35,855
He has actually, Gascoigne,
got a yellow card.
1064
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,735
Oh, dear. Oh, dear me.
1065
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,695
He's going to be out of the final
1066
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:42,255
if England get there.
1067
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,735
And here is a moment that almost
brings tears to his eyes.
1068
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,055
And to be honest with you,
one of the reasons I didn't enjoy
1069
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,575
that semifinal as much as I should
1070
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,895
was because my biggest fear was that
I would get the score wrong -
1071
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,855
not the actual score, but the score
in the penalty shoot-out.
1072
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,775
And never in the history of
England international football
1073
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,575
has so much
1074
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,695
hinged on such a shoot-out.
1075
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:13,615
And I remember just having a pad,
really,
1076
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,175
with 1-2-3-4-5 written down,
1077
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,935
or England 1-0, or Germany 2-1.
1078
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,895
And I had to keep it myself.
1079
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,735
And if I had said, "One more kick
and England will be in the final,"
1080
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,135
and it wasn't true,
1081
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,735
or, "This one could send England
out," and that wasn't...
1082
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,895
I was terrified that
I would make that mistake
1083
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:35,655
with all those, er,
connotations of that game
1084
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,895
and the size of the audience.
1085
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,935
Anyway, we scrambled through,
like I did,
1086
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,855
and it wasn't a very nice story
to tell,
1087
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,895
er, but at least I managed to
tell it accurately.
1088
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,295
Six really well-struck penalty kicks
1089
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,055
and now Stuart Pearce...
1090
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,215
MUSIC: Nessun Dorma by Pavarotti
1091
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,135
He can't!
1092
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,855
What can you say
that's in that moment
1093
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,735
where people are so disappointed,
so emotional,
1094
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,935
that can just nail it?
1095
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,095
Would you want to be Chris Waddle
now?
1096
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,775
Or even Stuart Pearce.
1097
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,775
And England
are out of the World Cup.
1098
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,895
West Germany
are through to the final
1099
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,695
on penalty kicks.
1100
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:41,015
You know, to hear him say that,
"And England are out,"
1101
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,295
it's like a resignation - it's over.
1102
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,375
There's no way to dress that up,
1103
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,775
there's no way to try and sum up
how disappointed
1104
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,735
Chris Waddle or Stuart Pearce are
at the time,
1105
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,695
no way to describe how as a nation
we're feeling at that time
1106
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,335
than to say it exactly how it was.
1107
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,015
"England are out of the World Cup."
1108
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,695
And Bobby Robson's dream
is shattered
1109
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,695
in the cruellest way possible,
1110
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,015
and with it, the hopes and dreams of
every Englishman.
1111
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,655
At that moment,
what people have got to understand
1112
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,375
is that he's feeling it as well.
1113
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,495
He's feeling it as an Englishman
who would love us
1114
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,015
to have got to the World Cup final.
1115
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,495
There was a feeling of,
"Oh, goodness, well, that's it now."
1116
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,815
You know, we're not going to be
in the final. That did come through.
1117
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,815
No words are needed
over an expression like that.
1118
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,495
And I knew,
somewhere in the back of my mind,
1119
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,895
I thought, "Am I going to
get another?
1120
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,855
"Are England going to get another
chance to get as close as this?"
1121
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,255
Ancl that's as close as he got.
Ancl boy, we got close.
1122
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,935
I'm going to take some more things
out of here.
1123
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,815
When I think that I first covered
the World Cup for the BBC in 1974,
1124
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,495
er, there's been a lot of, er,
tournaments since,
1125
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,855
and I've been to most of them
if not all, except one, perhaps.
1126
00:58:57,880 --> 00:58:59,895
And that was because of my cancer.
1127
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,295
To hear the news
and to hear it was bowel cancer,
1128
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,135
which is particularly,
um, dangerous.
1129
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,015
So to hear that news was shocking,
really,
1130
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:13,215
and to think someone
who's been around all my life
1131
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:17,055
suddenly might not be there was
a really frightening experience.
1132
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:22,615
I know at the time he didn't want
the wider world to know
1133
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,415
what it was.
1134
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,015
Um, but he did tell me,
1135
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,975
and it was a scare.
1136
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,615
Well, my diagnosis really started
with a letter
1137
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,055
completely out of the blue
from the local hospital
1138
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,735
saying that I was of an age
where I should be taking a test
1139
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,455
for bowel cancer.
1140
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,895
One of the reasons
Dad decided to go along for his
1141
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,215
was because he said, "Well,
1142
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,135
"if Fred's going off to do one this
week, I should go and do mine."
1143
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,495
And, you know, we decided that over
a pint of beer in the pub, really,
1144
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:54,055
and I think that would be my advice
to other sons.
1145
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,335
That, you know, it's not the nicest
conversation to have with your clad,
1146
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:01,895
but it's one that can mean so many
extra years of life together.
1147
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,855
But when I got to the hospital
and I had the colonoscopy,
1148
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,495
er, the surgeon asked me to wait
for a few minutes,
1149
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,975
and that was a bit agonising,
and I knew what was coming,
1150
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,495
and he said, "I'm sorry, john,
you've got a tumour."
1151
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,615
It was a major operation
that he had.
1152
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:20,215
Er, but, you know, thank God,
everything's fine.
1153
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,855
But he was able to reflect on
his mortality.
1154
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,815
I remember going to visit him
in hospital
1155
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,095
just after his first surgery,
1156
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,855
and even though he was very woozy
with the an aesthetic,
1157
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,015
didn't really know
what was going on,
1158
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:38,375
he was still adamant that we should
see the League One match
1159
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,335
that was on TV that night.
1160
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,335
I think one way in which I coped
1161
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:45,695
was because my dear wife Annie had
had breast cancer ten years earlier
1162
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,375
and I knew what a shock that was
1163
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,815
and what fortitude she showed,
and courage,
1164
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:52,135
in the operation she had to have
at the time.
1165
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,255
And in a way, I guess I thought to
myself, "Well, come on,
1166
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,015
"keep yourself together,
don't make too much of a fuss,"
1167
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,495
because she showed in her recovery
1168
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,455
just how brave she'd been.
1169
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:08,095
And I was kind of trying to be
nearly as brave as she was.
1170
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,095
That is a present
for Manchester City.
1171
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,015
For the next season, come here,
1172
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:16,895
and enjoy the... Oh, how
nice of you! Thank you very much.
1173
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,095
It will be a pleasure.
Hopefully I am still here.
1174
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,575
You will still be here.
1175
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,775
It will be a pleasure towards
your wife and yourself.
1176
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,095
I'll bring her, she'll be thrilled.
Thank you very much.
1177
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,535
I know you're a legend here
in Match of the Day.
1178
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,175
I don't know about that.
1179
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:32,615
Not like you are.
1180
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,855
Thank you very much. A pleasure.
It's great seeing you.
1181
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,215
LINEKER: Onto Crystal Palace
against West Brom.
1182
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,735
This was the final
Match of the Day commentary
1183
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,175
for a man who has been
broadcasting on the BBC
1184
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,015
for the past 50 years.
1185
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,255
At Selhurst Park, the Voice
of Football, one more time.
1186
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,695
John Motson.
1187
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,015
These two clubs have identical
records recently.
1188
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:54,935
Three wins and two draws
in their last five games.
1189
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,735
It's been a long time.
1190
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,815
So many people know him,
so many people warmed to him
1191
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,535
and so many people have memories
of certain football matches,
1192
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,815
whatever they are,
over such a period of time,
1193
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,215
and he's been an integral part of
that memory.
1194
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,135
Oh, van Aanholt's in again!
1195
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,295
Was it over the line?
Yes, it's a goal.
1196
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,215
It's a goal.
1197
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:26,815
Ancl often we link those memories to
words that go with those memories
1198
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:30,295
and I think that's why, perhaps,
as much as anything else,
1199
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,015
that he's so... He'll be so missed
in many ways.
1200
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,415
He's never been the guy
that loves himself,
1201
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,855
and yet he's got all these adoring
fans all over the place.
1202
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,215
Doing well? I'm trying.
1203
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,135
And I wasn't expecting this, Karen,
you know?
1204
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:50,695
I knew it was my last season
1205
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,535
and there would be one or two things
to do around it
1206
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,975
but I was never expecting this...
1207
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,455
flood of attention.
1208
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:02,535
Never. I know, but you're a hero
in everyone's living room.
1209
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,975
Aren't you? Oh, I don't know.
You are.
1210
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,295
I've never thought of myself
like that, I really haven't.
1211
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,895
It's very, very unusual that
one man, this clay and age,
1212
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,255
can do what he does for so long
1213
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,055
and still be appreciated
and rated by everybody.
1214
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,775
He just is a wonderful,
wonderful commentator.
1215
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,255
Ancl I think everyone in football
would agree
1216
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:30,775
that he's probably the best one
that there ever has been.
1217
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,495
I can't join the lap of hon our!
1218
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,255
We've had a very good life
thanks to football.
1219
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:43,055
By and large, he's absolutely loved
his working life with the BBC.
1220
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:47,975
Ancl that's a great, great thing
to be able to say.
1221
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,895
Well clone, john.
50 years' commentating, mate.
1222
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,335
Love you.
107218
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