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Good morning, viewers.
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We're now live at the
New York City Marathon
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where over two and a half million
people gathered to watch the race.
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My goal for this marathon
is simply to finish.
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If I can do it, you can do it.
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It was 2010.
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I had lost touch with Jared.
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He was tired of me not
meeting him in person...
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But I never let my guard
down because I was sure...
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that Jared Fogle was
an active pedophile.
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So the public and my
children were at risk.
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I wanted to warn people so
people could protect their children
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You know, I speak
to children all over the country,
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and actually, all
over the world now.
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There were times that I just
wanted to shout out over the airways.
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Sorry.
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Sorry. I didn't expect that.
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I was prevented from
talking by the FBI.
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And I couldn't take it anymore.
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At this point, I went
to the local authorities,
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the Sarasota Police Department.
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I turned in the FBI...
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for not doing their due
diligence to close this case
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with the evidence that I had
provided. I felt there was enough.
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It's kind of a bit of
a crazy move, though, isn't it?
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You taking on the FBI?
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Doing the right thing
is important to me.
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And that's what I
thought I was doing.
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My name is Chris Catanzaro.
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I used to be a detective with the
Sarasota City Police Department.
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On May 13th, 2010,
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Miss. Rochelle Herman
came in to the station.
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I spoke with her
about Jared Fogle.
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Her chief concern at that time was that he
was gonna hurt children, including her own.
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And she felt like we needed
to get this guy off the street.
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She had already contacted the FBI,
felt that it wasn't moving fast enough.
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And I think she wanted an audience
to believe her and do something.
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My firsts concern was, is this a
person that's enamored with a celebrity.
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And then she showed
us her evidence.
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She had phone recordings, all kinds
of information in reference to Mr. Fogle.
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Don't
know? No.
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When I listened
to Rochelle's tapes, I was shocked.
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I genuinely was shocked, because
he comes across as a clean-cut guy.
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But, predators come
in many shapes, forms,
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and oftentimes, it can be people
that we have a lot of respect for.
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I was very disturbed.
I was concerned...
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that there could be a possibility
that this man was going to do things.
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But because Mr. Fogle
lived out of state,
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there'd been, as I knew, no
crime committed in Sarasota.
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So we really couldn't
do any kind of arrest.
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But we did take her seriously...
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And I spoke with
Agent Billings at the FBI,
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and she did verify that there was an
active investigation concerning Mr. Fogle.
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I was there for several hours.
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I told the detectives,
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"I'm going to play my
tapes on my radio show."
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I was going to
reveal who Jared was,
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if they didn't do anything.
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I told her, "Don't do that.
That would not be a good idea."
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Broadcasting something like that
can be very harmful to an investigation.
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Number one, it can
scare the suspect off.
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And number two, it could
cause problems for her.
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Somebody could come after
her and maybe physically hurt her.
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I was frustrated and
incredibly disappointed.
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But I agreed not to
share the tapes publicly.
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I was allowed to
leave the police station.
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And my head is just spinning.
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I felt as though...
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I am being watched.
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My wanting to turn
evidence on the FBI,
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was I now someone
to be questioned?
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Am I a loose cannon?
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Was... I someone
not to be trusted?
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Was that a level of paranoia,
or was there truth to that?
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I don't know.
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One evening I was on the air.
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It was about quarter to eleven
or so, my show was about to end.
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And...
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There's two guys
bangin' on the door.
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They had black suits
with black sunglasses on.
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It was right out of the movies.
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It was the 'men in black'.
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The FBI, they show
me their badges.
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And I said, "Can
I help you guys?"
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They said, "Rochelle
Herman, please."
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And they're like,
"Who the hell are you?"
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I said, "I'm the
station manager."
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And I'm on the air for
another 15 minutes.
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"Thank you, we'll be back." And
they turned and walked in unison.
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It was bizarre. I'd never
seen anything like that.
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So we wrapped up and
zoomed across the street,
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and we watched from a bar.
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They were up there
for almost two hours.
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They took computers,
they took boxes,
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they took stacks of
printed out emails and texts.
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And they took a lot of stuff.
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The FBI, they raided
the radio station.
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They raided my home to collect
anything that I may not have turned over.
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They knew that I could tell
the public at any moment
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about Jared.
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The FBI told me to stay quiet
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or I would be charged with
impeding an on-going investigation.
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So I did.
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I had to step back. I
had to become a ghost.
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The toll that working
undercover for the FBI...
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had on my health
was astronomical.
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The PTSD that I have
experienced because of this,
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um, has been debilitating.
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I truly believe that...
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when someone undergoes such a
stressful situation for so many years,
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it makes you susceptible
to other things.
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In the fall of 2012,
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I was diagnosed with
reflex sympathetic dystrophy,
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known as suicide disease,
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because it is the most painful
chronic disease known to man.
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I was on incredible
amounts of painkillers...
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and medications.
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My entire life changed.
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It cost me my career.
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I felt bad for Rochelle because
she's a beautiful person.
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And she was in pretty bad shape.
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Seeing
what she became, it was hard.
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The pain and all the stress,
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and everything that's happened,
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she's completely
different from who she was.
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It was a struggle every day.
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And I see Jared...
living a wonderful life.
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- And he just got married. Congratulations.
- Thank you very much.
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Yeah, it's been great so far. My first
trip back on the road after being married.
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So, that's awesome.
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Jared was
married to Katie McLaughlin.
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She seemed very
nice, very sweet.
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From the outside, to me,
their relationship was simple.
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Katie was very much the
housewife, taking care of the kids.
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Jared was out making the money.
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This holiday season,
Subway is celebrating you!
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Customer appreciation is back!
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But 2013, Jared had made
about 300 commercials,
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and was worth
15 million dollars.
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Jared, Jared, I am
your biggest fan.
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- You know, you're more handsome in person.
- Thank you.
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Ever since
the Prince of Jared commercial,
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I have followed everything
that he has done ever since.
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How are you, buddy?
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I was very happy for him.
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He seemed very humble,
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he didn't seem like he thought
he was better than anybody else.
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He treated everybody
with respect.
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How are you?
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He was just, uh,
just a nice guy.
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- Over 200 pounds...
- for 15 years...
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- Bravo!
- Take a bow, Jared.
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My name's Chuck Cohen.
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I was a Captain at the
Indiana State Police.
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In mid to late 2014, I
received a phone call from
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an Indiana State
Trooper that I knew.
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He said that he had a friend
who had been in communication
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with a man sending images
that depicted bestiality.
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I made the decision to ask a
investigator to get more information.
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Investigators uncovered electronic
communication about sexual contact
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with an animal.
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At the time in Indiana,
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the possession of images and videos
that depict bestiality is not a crime.
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But the actual act of bestiality,
that would be unlawful.
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Investigators determine that
the electronic communication...
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was sent by Russell Taylor.
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Russell Taylor at the time was
employed as executive director
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of the Jared Foundation owned and
run by Jared Fogle, the Subway guy.
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Investigators serve a search
warrant at Russell Taylor's house
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to collect evidence
associated with bestiality.
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He was living in a, uh, very
nice house in Central Indiana.
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By all external appearances, he was a
very average upper-middle class person.
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Russell Taylor didn't have
any criminal history whatsoever
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that we were aware of.
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Investigators did find
images of an adult female
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in contact with an animal.
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And they identify the person
in the images as Angie Taylor,
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Russell Taylor's wife.
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During the course of the
search of Russell Taylor's house,
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investigators inadvertently
discovered... hidden cameras...
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built into things that look like
something else, like a clock...
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in places like
children's bedrooms.
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When he was interviewed by investigators
one of the things Russell told them
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was he placed the cameras
there, um, to prevent theft., ,
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But the location of the cameras
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was inconsistent with
what Russell Taylor's said.
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They were pointed towards
places that were intimate to children.
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Placed towards beds, trying to record
children when they were unclothed.
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One of the things
investigators found
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were videos that appeared to
be produced by those cameras...
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of children undressed,
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of children involved in
some cases, in sex acts.
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Investigators see
horrible things.
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In my experience, the videos
that stick with me the most...
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are the ones where
I've heard the audio.
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It's hearing the fear
in the child's voice.
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The only thing
that surpasses that
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is the horrors that the
children themselves experience.
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When a child is the victim of
production of child pornography,
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that will follow the
child for their entire life.
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After Russell was arrested,
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we had to talk to the FBI.
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I was a very
traumatic... frozen state.
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I couldn't even believe
what was happening to me.
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They sat me down and told me...
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that there were cameras
all throughout the house.
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They were everywhere.
Russell, he was watching us.
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In the shower, watching
us get dressed in our rooms,
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watching us masturbate.
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We were being watched 24/7.
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You just feel so dirty when you
find something out like that. You just...
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It's just really hard to accept
that that even happened.
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And the FBI
showed us still images
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of just our faces...
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The rest of the bodies
were blocked out.
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I identified myself, I
identified my sister.
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And then I had to identify
some of my... closest friends.
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I think I was
starting to reconcile...
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what was really going on.
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Everything that ever
happened with Russell...
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finally made sense.
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When our mom met Russell Taylor,
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I was about ten, and Christian
would have been about 13.
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It looked like we we
all were doing well.
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We were going on vacations,
we were moving on up in the world.
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But all of that was a facade,
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because our lives really started
to take a turn for the worst.
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Your average teenager will get
in trouble for drinking underage,
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and smoking weed.
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But it wasn't like that for us.
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I was being introduced to all
of that by my mom and Russell.
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We're throwing these parties
and it's normal.
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They want us to,
they encouraged us to.
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You don't know the difference
between what is right and what is wrong
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because a trusted source who
is supposed to be your parent,
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is telling you that it's okay.
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- You know.
- The common quote in our home was,
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"Age is just a number."
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As long as you're mature
enough to do it, you're gonna do it.
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I think that was... the
seed that was planted.
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And that began the
grooming process for us.
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Allowing us to
drink and smoke and party,
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made us vulnerable
to talk about...
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sexual things.
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It didn't even have
to be about you or I.
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It was about them.
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My mom's attitude
to sexual behavior,
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it went from zero to a hundred.
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She would leave the room after
giving Russell oral and come...
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tell me about it. Like,
it was just very open.
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I remember I was 12 at the time,
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and Russell was telling me,
"You should be having sex."
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You know, "You should
be exploring your body."
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And I told him, no.
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And he proceeded to
kind of make fun of me
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'cause I hadn't
done those things.
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One day Russell texted me.
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He said, "Hey, I left
something on your bed."
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I went up there and...
there was a... dildo!
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And the computer
pulled up with porn!
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It freaked me out.
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He's leaving this for me,
so what am I supposed to do!
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I think Russell was doing
all these things to catch us on camera.
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Literally setting up scenes...
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to put into his film.
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Russell Taylor is
accused of recording underaged girls
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without their knowledge
to produce porn.
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Taylor was in
some of the images.
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When Russell
Taylor was arrested in 2015,
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both Jared Fogle and Subway
Corporation, uh, released statements.
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The statement that Jared
Fogle released was...
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"I was shocked to learn of the
disturbing allegations against Mr. Taylor.
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"Affect from immediately the Jared
Foundation severed all ties with Mr. Taylor."
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The statement from Subway was...
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"We don't have any
affiliation with the Foundation
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"and we were disgusted
to hear about these claims.
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"We're glad Jared took quick action
to severe all his ties with Mr. Taylor."
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I'm sure Subway was very concerned
the day Russell Taylor was arrested.
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And I'm sure somebody
somewhere at Subway just said...
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"God, please, don't let Jared
Fogle be involved in this."
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What an
inspiration! Subway, eat fresh.
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Through the
course of the investigation,
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investigators found
thousands of text messages.
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And also numerous images
and videos of children...
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The image was horrible.
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Investigators were able
to identify 12 victims.
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One of the things investigators
were able to recover
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is Russell Taylor sent
a image of a naked child
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to Jared Fogle.
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Russell Taylor, when
interviewed told investigators
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Jared Fogle had actually gone
out to dinner with that child victim.
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Jared Fogle had the
option of calling the police.
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He could have
told Russell Taylor,
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"I don't want this
Don't send anymore."
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Or he could've done what he did.
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My name is Steven Debrota.
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Back in 2014, I was an
assistant US attorney.
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When I saw the text message that
featured a minor he knew in real life...
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we began the
investigation of Jared Fogle.
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If there's one piece of evidence
like that, there could be more.
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Russell Taylor, when
interviewed, claimed
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00:21:33,931 --> 00:21:36,033
that some, some of his
criminal behavior was motivated
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by a desire to produce child
pornography for Jared Fogle.
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We know from other
communications that at one point
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a thumb drive and a laptop
computer containing child pornography,
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both commercial and homemade,
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00:21:48,275 --> 00:21:51,930
was given from Russell
Taylor to Jared Fogle.
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00:21:51,931 --> 00:21:55,965
So we develop enough information to
get a search warrant for Jared's home.
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So the morning of July 7th...
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investigators met at about
five o'clock in the morning.
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Most of the officers were not aware
of the location they were gonna search.
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Our entire goal was to do
this as discreetly as possible
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with as little media
attention as possible.
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Uh, that was unsuccessful.
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Developing story
out of Indiana...
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FBI agents raiding the home of
Subway spokesman, Jared Fogle.
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I'm shocked to say the least.
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When I first saw that something
was happening with Jared.
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Over the 25 years of my career,
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there was more media attention
at this than any other investigation.
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You know, people
flocked their cameras from TV.
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Our reporters, our photographers.
It was a classic media circus.
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I don't think anyone understood
the full scope of what was going on.
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But when the truth came out,
it shocked the nation to its core.
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I received a phone call
from a friend of mine.
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"You need to turn
on the news now."
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Investigators
start at around 6:30 in the morning.
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They went through the home. In fact,
we see a video of them coming out
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with hard drives and computers.
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Jared's house was being raided.
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I was shocked. Oh, my
gosh. It's actually happening.
332
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I just don't think the FBI
raids people for no reason.
333
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Only thing I ever see around
this home are happy people
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doing their yard, waving.
335
00:23:43,758 --> 00:23:47,033
So I'm shocked and upset,
of course, and saddened.
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The FBI will only say that
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an investigation is
taking place in Zionville.
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Jared, you got anything to say?
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We wanna stress that
he is not being arrested.
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He has not been charged, but
again, it is an on-going investigation.
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00:24:03,241 --> 00:24:05,481
Investigators
found digital devices.
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00:24:05,482 --> 00:24:09,516
Cellphones, USB
drives, several computers.
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00:24:09,517 --> 00:24:13,999
5.6 terabytes of information
had to be reviewed...
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00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,412
to see whether or not
there was other evidence
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00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:17,758
or other crimes were committed.
346
00:24:19,724 --> 00:24:22,793
That very
day that the news broke,
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I contacted our
local station, ABC7.
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00:24:28,655 --> 00:24:32,067
I felt it was important
to get my story out there
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and reveal the monster
behind the doors.
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00:24:38,344 --> 00:24:40,999
I remember my
assignment manager saying,
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"Max, I may have
something for you."
352
00:24:43,172 --> 00:24:48,378
And she tells me about this
woman who tipped off the FBI
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00:24:48,379 --> 00:24:53,136
on Jared Fogle and something
to do with child pornography.
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00:24:53,137 --> 00:24:57,241
And I'm like, okay, is this just some
kook woman trying to, to get attention.
355
00:24:58,827 --> 00:25:03,792
So, I call Rochelle, and
she tells me her story.
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00:25:03,793 --> 00:25:07,895
I didn't know whether
to trust this woman.
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00:25:07,896 --> 00:25:12,412
So I am contacting
sources and I will say,
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I felt very comfortable that
she was telling the truth.
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00:25:16,448 --> 00:25:20,481
So, we did an
interview with her.
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00:25:20,482 --> 00:25:25,619
Did he mention to you that he in fact did
have relations with, with underage children?
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00:25:25,620 --> 00:25:27,792
Yes, he did. Yes, he did.
362
00:25:27,793 --> 00:25:30,964
Jared Fogle to you is what?
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Is a monster.
364
00:25:34,586 --> 00:25:37,343
When Rochelle's
news broke, I didn't believe it at first.
365
00:25:37,344 --> 00:25:39,033
I thought it wasn't true.
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00:25:39,034 --> 00:25:43,861
Because Jared Fogle was considered one
of the most trusted people in the country.
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00:25:43,862 --> 00:25:47,930
In the public's eye I think
people were still siding with Fogle
368
00:25:47,931 --> 00:25:49,344
and believing that
he'd been duped.
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00:25:50,724 --> 00:25:52,792
A lot of
cases involving famous people
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don't go the right way.
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00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:59,067
In his particular case, he
had fame and he has money.
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00:25:59,068 --> 00:26:02,895
So, we had the concern that Fogle
was gonna be one more celebrity
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that would get away with it.
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00:26:06,862 --> 00:26:08,723
Everyone's still
waiting for investigators
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00:26:08,724 --> 00:26:12,551
to give some comments about what they
may have found during this investigation.
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00:26:14,448 --> 00:26:16,516
After the
search of his residence,
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00:26:16,517 --> 00:26:19,171
we had to do
painstaking analysis
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00:26:19,172 --> 00:26:21,412
of what digital
evidence was there.
379
00:26:21,413 --> 00:26:26,171
My conclusion was that Jared Fogle
was fully involved in criminal activity
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00:26:26,172 --> 00:26:27,585
with Russell Taylor.
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00:26:27,586 --> 00:26:30,274
My question was, was I gonna
be able to hold him accountable
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00:26:30,275 --> 00:26:32,688
for the totality of what he did.
383
00:26:32,689 --> 00:26:36,585
And that wasn't clear to me until we
saw all of the text messages that we got
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00:26:36,586 --> 00:26:38,172
as a result of
searching his house.
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00:26:39,931 --> 00:26:41,274
The texts showed
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00:26:41,275 --> 00:26:44,034
Jared Fogle was very good
at maintaining his double life.
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00:26:46,758 --> 00:26:51,102
He would travel around the
United States for Subway.
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00:26:51,103 --> 00:26:53,619
We know he was in Las Vegas,
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00:26:53,620 --> 00:26:57,516
Florida, and New York City.
390
00:26:57,517 --> 00:27:00,067
But when he's not in public,
391
00:27:00,068 --> 00:27:02,827
when he's by himself
in the hotel room...
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00:27:04,344 --> 00:27:07,655
Jared Fogle spent 12,000
a year on sex-workers.
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00:27:14,689 --> 00:27:19,103
Then he would ask if they had access
to any underage prostituting minors.
394
00:27:25,344 --> 00:27:29,931
He successfully had sex with prostituting
minors on multiple occasions...
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00:27:33,344 --> 00:27:36,033
at the Plaza Hotel,
just off Central Park
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00:27:36,034 --> 00:27:38,689
and also at the Ritz
Carlton in Manhattan.
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00:27:43,344 --> 00:27:46,516
The two prostituting minors in
New York were sixteen years of age,
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00:27:46,517 --> 00:27:50,792
and we call that, travelling over a Stateline
to engage in unlawful sex with a minor.
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00:27:50,793 --> 00:27:53,343
That's a federal crime.
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00:27:53,344 --> 00:27:58,481
So, at the end of the day we charged
him with conspiring with Russell Taylor
401
00:27:58,482 --> 00:28:01,792
to distribute and receive
child pornography.
402
00:28:01,793 --> 00:28:05,551
And also, victimizing
prostituted minors in New York.
403
00:28:06,965 --> 00:28:09,516
Jared Fogle was
searched in July of 2015,
404
00:28:09,517 --> 00:28:12,205
and he was pleading
guilty by August.
405
00:28:12,206 --> 00:28:13,481
The face of Subway
406
00:28:13,482 --> 00:28:15,654
has gone from being
famous to being infamous
407
00:28:15,655 --> 00:28:17,240
for something
much more sinister.
408
00:28:17,241 --> 00:28:21,550
Jared Fogle pleading guilty
to child pornography charges,
409
00:28:21,551 --> 00:28:23,654
and other shocking sex crimes.
410
00:28:23,655 --> 00:28:27,447
He paid to have sex with
victims that he knew were kids.
411
00:28:27,448 --> 00:28:29,171
Hey, Jared...
412
00:28:29,172 --> 00:28:33,688
When Jared Fogle first pleaded
guilty, it sent shock waves.
413
00:28:33,689 --> 00:28:35,378
No one could believe it.
414
00:28:35,379 --> 00:28:38,585
What we were able to
determine was there were 14 victims
415
00:28:38,586 --> 00:28:42,965
and all of them were subjected
to very serious federal crimes.
416
00:28:45,413 --> 00:28:49,516
The guy on the radio said,
"Big trouble for Jared from Subway."
417
00:28:49,517 --> 00:28:53,033
And I listened to him, and I'm like, "Oh,
my God. They got him. They got him."
418
00:28:53,034 --> 00:28:55,033
Let's call this what it is.
419
00:28:55,034 --> 00:28:58,619
This is about using
wealth, status and secrecy
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00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:01,895
to illegally exploit children.
421
00:29:01,896 --> 00:29:04,136
We were just shocked.
422
00:29:04,137 --> 00:29:09,240
We just couldn't comprehend
that, that this story was really true.
423
00:29:09,241 --> 00:29:12,447
He had a family,
he had children.
424
00:29:12,448 --> 00:29:15,826
And then to just throw
it away like that, is just...
425
00:29:15,827 --> 00:29:17,896
It makes me angry
and it makes me sad.
426
00:29:19,413 --> 00:29:21,412
I felt sick to my stomach.
427
00:29:21,413 --> 00:29:24,240
I felt weird about
knowing the guy.
428
00:29:24,241 --> 00:29:25,826
It was just horrible.
429
00:29:25,827 --> 00:29:31,136
And I felt for all of the victims
and the people involved.
430
00:29:31,137 --> 00:29:33,274
Jared, is there
anything you want to say?
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00:29:33,275 --> 00:29:36,516
His wife immediately
filed for divorce.
432
00:29:36,517 --> 00:29:39,274
She also asked for
custody of their two children.
433
00:29:39,275 --> 00:29:41,378
And she denounced him in public.
434
00:29:41,379 --> 00:29:44,654
Breaking news story regarding
former Subway spokesman, Jared Fogle.
435
00:29:44,655 --> 00:29:46,619
And just moments
ago, Katie McLaughlin
436
00:29:46,620 --> 00:29:48,585
spoke publicly for
the first time ever.
437
00:29:48,586 --> 00:29:50,447
Find out that your husband
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00:29:50,448 --> 00:29:53,171
and the father of your
children is a child predator
439
00:29:53,172 --> 00:29:55,136
is devastating.
440
00:29:55,137 --> 00:29:57,619
were among
her claims that Subway was alerted
441
00:29:57,620 --> 00:30:01,861
at least three times to Jared's
possible sexual attraction to children
442
00:30:01,862 --> 00:30:03,930
and did nothing about it.
443
00:30:03,931 --> 00:30:07,757
Finding out that Subway did
not act upon at least one complaint
444
00:30:07,758 --> 00:30:09,895
is beyond comprehension.
445
00:30:09,896 --> 00:30:13,378
Did Subway cover
it up? I don't know.
446
00:30:13,379 --> 00:30:18,999
I think the more logical
reasoning here is that
447
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:25,619
Subway just did not find
the allegations truthful.
448
00:30:25,620 --> 00:30:29,343
Subway says it
found just one serious complaint
449
00:30:29,344 --> 00:30:31,412
about its former
spokesperson, Jared Fogle.
450
00:30:31,413 --> 00:30:34,481
But it wasn't connected
to any sexual misconduct.
451
00:30:34,482 --> 00:30:37,068
Subway has now
closed it's investigation.
452
00:30:38,137 --> 00:30:40,240
You can't help but wonder,
453
00:30:40,241 --> 00:30:45,067
did Jared Fogle get away
with his crimes for so long
454
00:30:45,068 --> 00:30:47,723
because of his fame?
455
00:30:47,724 --> 00:30:50,241
We may not ever
know the full story.
456
00:30:52,413 --> 00:30:55,205
Today, former
Subway spokesperson, Jared Fogle,
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00:30:55,206 --> 00:30:58,723
will be sentenced on federal charges
of possession of child pornography
458
00:30:58,724 --> 00:31:00,343
and having sex with a minor.
459
00:31:00,344 --> 00:31:04,103
Charges that carry a penalty between
five and fifty years in federal prison.
460
00:31:05,482 --> 00:31:07,240
A literal media
frenzy is on hand...
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00:31:07,241 --> 00:31:09,516
awaiting former Subway
spokesman, Jared Fogle.
462
00:31:11,068 --> 00:31:13,948
What do you wanna
say to the families of these victims?
463
00:31:17,379 --> 00:31:21,309
The betrayal of the public's
trust triggered interest in the case.
464
00:31:21,310 --> 00:31:22,792
As you can see here behind me,
465
00:31:22,793 --> 00:31:25,067
dozens of photographers,
dozens of reporters out here
466
00:31:25,068 --> 00:31:27,068
speaking about history
as it's being made.
467
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,516
For me, my goal was
to get a sentence that I thought
468
00:31:31,517 --> 00:31:34,413
was a fair reflection of
what we knew he had done.
469
00:31:35,896 --> 00:31:39,171
The minimum sentence
he could get was five years.
470
00:31:39,172 --> 00:31:42,793
The maximum sentence he
could receive was fifty years.
471
00:31:44,448 --> 00:31:46,309
In the sentencing hearing,
472
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:49,241
the defendant gets an opportunity
to directly address the court.
473
00:31:50,655 --> 00:31:53,171
Fogle went on
to tell Judge Prat,
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00:31:53,172 --> 00:31:56,792
"I went from being raised with
good, solid morals and values
475
00:31:56,793 --> 00:32:00,862
"to living the life of deception, lies
and complete self-centeredness.
476
00:32:02,344 --> 00:32:05,550
"I had become dependent on
alcohol, pornography and prostitutes.
477
00:32:05,551 --> 00:32:08,826
"The victims that I have harmed
as a result of my decisions
478
00:32:08,827 --> 00:32:12,102
"will carry a huge burden
for the rest of their lives.
479
00:32:12,103 --> 00:32:16,447
"Not a day will go by that
I don't think about them.
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00:32:16,448 --> 00:32:19,413
"I take full and absolute
responsibility for what I have done."
481
00:32:20,689 --> 00:32:23,930
Jared's defense
attorneys had him evaluated.
482
00:32:23,931 --> 00:32:26,999
One of the experts
provided a testimony,
483
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,551
uh, that Jared was
addicted to sexual activity.
484
00:32:33,827 --> 00:32:39,930
His attorneys said early on that he had
swapped his food addiction for sex addiction.
485
00:32:39,931 --> 00:32:42,412
And that he was a
good candidate for treatment.
486
00:32:42,413 --> 00:32:44,999
That he would be able
to beat this and get better.
487
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,999
That seems ludicrous
on its face today.
488
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,688
It seemed ludicrous
at that time.
489
00:32:49,689 --> 00:32:51,550
I think you could have
any number of addictions,
490
00:32:51,551 --> 00:32:56,240
you're not suddenly going to find
someone who's underage sexually attractive.
491
00:32:56,241 --> 00:33:01,378
The defense had one of their
witnesses saying it was mild pedophilia.
492
00:33:01,379 --> 00:33:04,172
That his problem
primarily was teenage girls.
493
00:33:05,379 --> 00:33:07,412
But he was, according
to our evidence,
494
00:33:07,413 --> 00:33:12,000
sexually attracted to children as
young as age six, boys and girls.
495
00:33:13,862 --> 00:33:18,033
Several women around the United
States came forward and said...
496
00:33:18,034 --> 00:33:21,137
Jared, to bring up the issue of
his sexual attraction to minors.
497
00:33:25,137 --> 00:33:28,309
One of them, Rochelle
Herman, had a set of recordings
498
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:30,310
with Jared Fogle
over a period of time.
499
00:34:05,931 --> 00:34:08,999
As far as I'm aware,
there is no evidence to support
500
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:14,309
that Jared Fogle ever did any of the
things he discussed with Rochelle Herman.
501
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:16,930
But the, uh,
existence of the tapes
502
00:34:16,931 --> 00:34:19,757
showed he had a
sexual interest in minors
503
00:34:19,758 --> 00:34:23,000
and a long-standing and
persistent pattern of behavior.
504
00:34:24,241 --> 00:34:26,585
It's not a 'one moment
of bad judgement',
505
00:34:26,586 --> 00:34:29,964
it's not a small addiction,
it's a major problem.
506
00:34:29,965 --> 00:34:33,619
Rochelle's tapes clearly had
a huge impact on the judge.
507
00:34:33,620 --> 00:34:35,619
Because when it
came to sentencing,
508
00:34:35,620 --> 00:34:38,723
she went beyond the
prosecutor's recommendations.
509
00:34:38,724 --> 00:34:41,688
And I can tell you,
that is very rare.
510
00:34:41,689 --> 00:34:44,757
The judge in this case, federal
judge Tanya Walton Pratt,
511
00:34:44,758 --> 00:34:48,792
sentencing Jared Fogle to
fifteen and a half years in prison.
512
00:34:48,793 --> 00:34:50,930
He is going to be
registered as a sex offender,
513
00:34:50,931 --> 00:34:53,585
and uh, basically, being
watched the entirety of his life.
514
00:34:53,586 --> 00:34:55,186
Hey, Jared!
515
00:34:56,793 --> 00:34:59,240
I know that there
are guidelines.
516
00:34:59,241 --> 00:35:03,827
And I know that the judge took
everything into consideration...
517
00:35:05,172 --> 00:35:07,895
But there's fourteen victims!
518
00:35:07,896 --> 00:35:10,965
How is fifteen years enough?
519
00:35:12,586 --> 00:35:15,000
Now, looking back on it,
520
00:35:16,448 --> 00:35:19,550
it makes me angry.
521
00:35:19,551 --> 00:35:22,585
Jared was just
completely complicit
522
00:35:22,586 --> 00:35:25,930
in the videos that
were being taken of us
523
00:35:25,931 --> 00:35:27,344
in our most vulnerable moments.
524
00:35:28,655 --> 00:35:30,550
He was the puppet master
525
00:35:30,551 --> 00:35:34,378
and Russell was
kind of just his puppet.
526
00:35:34,379 --> 00:35:38,826
I think Jared Fogle was
wired to be sexually attracted to children.
527
00:35:38,827 --> 00:35:43,067
And his situation was made
worse when he met Russell Taylor.
528
00:35:43,068 --> 00:35:46,412
They become this toxic
combination together.
529
00:35:46,413 --> 00:35:48,516
Russell
Taylor is paying the price
530
00:35:48,517 --> 00:35:51,757
for victimizing children he
secretly videotaped in the nude.
531
00:35:51,758 --> 00:35:55,067
The federal crime will cost him
more than two decades in prison.
532
00:35:55,068 --> 00:35:59,310
It was his cooperation that allowed
them to arrest and charge Jared Fogle.
533
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:08,896
So many terrible
memories in that house.
534
00:36:10,482 --> 00:36:13,102
It looks like a family home.
535
00:36:13,103 --> 00:36:16,482
- But, really, it was toxic. Evil.
- Yeah.
536
00:36:18,103 --> 00:36:20,895
It's kind of hard
to believe we lived in there
537
00:36:20,896 --> 00:36:23,964
and all those things
happened inside.
538
00:36:23,965 --> 00:36:26,930
I don't feel trapped
in there anymore.
539
00:36:26,931 --> 00:36:31,206
But this house robbed
me of my childhood.
540
00:36:36,172 --> 00:36:40,343
Russell Taylor,
to me, is now a monster.
541
00:36:40,344 --> 00:36:43,930
But I think my mom, Angela,
was just as dangerous.
542
00:36:43,931 --> 00:36:46,379
As Russell and
Jared, if not more.
543
00:36:50,344 --> 00:36:54,240
We got a call
from the FBI IN 2020.
544
00:36:54,241 --> 00:36:56,103
The case was being reopened.
545
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,723
The FBI had this new evidence.
546
00:37:01,724 --> 00:37:03,550
They said we're going to
show you things about your mom
547
00:37:03,551 --> 00:37:04,758
that you've never seen before.
548
00:37:07,413 --> 00:37:12,654
And they showed us text messages
and text messages and text messages
549
00:37:12,655 --> 00:37:16,688
of our mom talking about
wanting to have sex with us.
550
00:37:16,689 --> 00:37:19,896
Wanting to let Russell
have sex with us.
551
00:37:21,137 --> 00:37:25,172
She was watching us
live on these cameras.
552
00:37:29,068 --> 00:37:30,448
I'm sorry.
553
00:37:33,965 --> 00:37:36,136
You just feel so unloved.
554
00:37:36,137 --> 00:37:37,620
Just how...
555
00:37:39,896 --> 00:37:44,481
someone who... is supposed
to love you and protect you...
556
00:37:44,482 --> 00:37:46,240
Supposed to be your mom...
557
00:37:46,241 --> 00:37:48,205
is...
558
00:37:48,206 --> 00:37:49,448
dangerous.
559
00:37:51,724 --> 00:37:56,619
We were asked to
testify against her.
560
00:37:56,620 --> 00:38:01,343
And I wanted to tell the
world what she had done
561
00:38:01,344 --> 00:38:05,964
because she stole so much
of my childhood away from me.
562
00:38:05,965 --> 00:38:09,862
I felt, you exposed me,
I'm going to expose you.
563
00:38:11,517 --> 00:38:15,033
Russell Taylor's former
wife was charged with sex crimes.
564
00:38:15,034 --> 00:38:19,723
And in 2021, she was
convicted after jury trial.
565
00:38:19,724 --> 00:38:23,447
Judge Pratt's sentence for
Taylor's former wife, Angela Baldwin
566
00:38:23,448 --> 00:38:24,930
was 33 years.
567
00:38:24,931 --> 00:38:29,102
She molested her own
relatives and was gleeful about it.
568
00:38:29,103 --> 00:38:30,757
This was someone
who chose to do this,
569
00:38:30,758 --> 00:38:32,309
this was someone
who wanted to do this.
570
00:38:32,310 --> 00:38:35,102
And it's this horrific
exploitation of children
571
00:38:35,103 --> 00:38:36,383
who should be able to trust you.
572
00:38:41,241 --> 00:38:43,758
I've asked myself many times...
573
00:38:45,344 --> 00:38:48,241
why would our mom
do this to her children?
574
00:38:49,482 --> 00:38:52,000
I would label her as... evil.
575
00:38:53,862 --> 00:38:55,930
She just was not a good mom.
576
00:38:55,931 --> 00:38:57,448
She just was not a good mother.
577
00:38:59,413 --> 00:39:02,654
I would definitely
say, having a child...
578
00:39:02,655 --> 00:39:04,241
has changed my life.
579
00:39:06,724 --> 00:39:10,033
I've never loved
somebody so much.
580
00:39:10,034 --> 00:39:14,310
I just want to give my
daughter... what I didn't have.
581
00:39:15,965 --> 00:39:19,344
I feel like our entire
lives we've really just been surviving.
582
00:39:20,724 --> 00:39:23,240
I didn't see the light
at the end of the tunnel.
583
00:39:23,241 --> 00:39:27,241
And now I can
finally see that light.
584
00:39:29,137 --> 00:39:34,412
I can finally get a
little bit of the taste
585
00:39:34,413 --> 00:39:37,654
of freedom and happiness.
586
00:39:37,655 --> 00:39:40,688
And it tastes so good.
587
00:39:40,689 --> 00:39:41,965
It really does.
588
00:39:50,793 --> 00:39:52,654
Although we've
never met Rochelle,
589
00:39:52,655 --> 00:39:56,171
I'm definitely thankful for
the part that she's played
590
00:39:56,172 --> 00:40:00,000
because we didn't have the
power to speak up for ourselves.
591
00:40:01,448 --> 00:40:04,136
I would never be
able to live my life knowing
592
00:40:04,137 --> 00:40:06,033
that I stood down.
593
00:40:06,034 --> 00:40:09,378
I needed to help
save these children.
594
00:40:09,379 --> 00:40:11,068
And I would do
it all over again.
595
00:40:13,172 --> 00:40:16,343
But I do regret how...
596
00:40:16,344 --> 00:40:20,275
it tore my relationship
with my children apart.
597
00:40:22,379 --> 00:40:24,033
My sister, Angela,
598
00:40:24,034 --> 00:40:26,516
struggles a lot with the
same things that I do.
599
00:40:26,517 --> 00:40:28,309
Like anxiety and...
600
00:40:28,310 --> 00:40:30,999
I think she also, like
has heavy depression.
601
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,034
But she wants to get
her life on track again.
602
00:40:35,827 --> 00:40:37,895
The whole thing
with Jared Fogle,
603
00:40:37,896 --> 00:40:42,930
it's definitely strained, like,
my relationship with my sister...
604
00:40:42,931 --> 00:40:44,620
and my mother.
605
00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:50,102
Around four or five years
ago, I moved to Taiwan.
606
00:40:50,103 --> 00:40:51,724
And I've never gone
back to America.
607
00:40:53,241 --> 00:40:55,136
There's a lot of reasons why.
608
00:40:55,137 --> 00:40:57,895
There's been a
lot that's happened.
609
00:40:57,896 --> 00:41:00,758
I'm, I'm not sure, like, what
I should say, to be honest.
610
00:41:03,689 --> 00:41:06,274
But, I'm very
proud of my mother.
611
00:41:06,275 --> 00:41:08,550
She did do something heroic.
612
00:41:08,551 --> 00:41:11,724
And she... It was selfless,
'cause she lost a lot in the process.
613
00:41:16,034 --> 00:41:19,343
I'm not the
same person I used to be.
614
00:41:19,344 --> 00:41:25,241
But, I will not allow this experience
with Jared to define my life.
615
00:41:26,827 --> 00:41:31,171
If I ever have the opportunity
to talk to those fourteen victims,
616
00:41:31,172 --> 00:41:32,689
I would share it with them.
617
00:41:34,206 --> 00:41:37,516
Do not give Jared the power
618
00:41:37,517 --> 00:41:41,861
to define what he did to you
619
00:41:41,862 --> 00:41:45,792
as who you are, because
that's not who you are.
620
00:41:45,793 --> 00:41:49,413
And love yourself
because you survived.
621
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,689
And I personally...
622
00:41:56,034 --> 00:41:59,413
thank you for coming
forward to help stop a monster.
54762
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