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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,367 --> 00:00:02,567 Narrator: 2 00:00:02,567 --> 00:00:03,167 Narrator: In 2007, a construction worker 3 00:00:04,533 --> 00:00:06,373 made a gruesome discovery... 4 00:00:07,767 --> 00:00:11,567 that uncovered a 30-year-old mystery. 5 00:00:11,567 --> 00:00:13,567 Molly Shen: It was a smaller town 6 00:00:13,567 --> 00:00:15,167 where neighbors know each other, 7 00:00:15,166 --> 00:00:17,126 not a place where bodies get found buried 8 00:00:17,133 --> 00:00:18,703 in the backyard. 9 00:00:18,700 --> 00:00:21,100 Ben Benson: The body had completely decomposed, 10 00:00:21,100 --> 00:00:24,100 and there was nothing left but some clothes and dirt. 11 00:00:24,100 --> 00:00:26,170 Shen: You just immediately started to wonder, 12 00:00:26,166 --> 00:00:28,166 Who was it? How long has that body been there? 13 00:00:28,166 --> 00:00:29,526 Narrator: To get to the truth, 14 00:00:29,533 --> 00:00:31,433 investigators set out to expose 15 00:00:31,433 --> 00:00:34,533 a family's darkest secrets. 16 00:00:34,533 --> 00:00:36,173 He was hounding her. 17 00:00:36,166 --> 00:00:37,696 He was always trying to get her into bed. 18 00:00:37,700 --> 00:00:40,170 Gypsy Tarricone: I know who killed him. 19 00:00:40,166 --> 00:00:42,466 I just couldn't prove it... 20 00:00:42,467 --> 00:00:44,467 yet. 21 00:00:44,467 --> 00:00:47,597 Once you kill one person, it's easy to kill another one. 22 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,570 There's people that have no regard for human life. 23 00:00:50,567 --> 00:00:55,097 The more you learned, the more sickening it became. 24 00:01:09,066 --> 00:01:09,426 Reporting live in Tacoma, 25 00:01:10,333 --> 00:01:12,303 Molly Shen, KOMO 4 News. 26 00:01:12,300 --> 00:01:13,730 Narrator: As a veteran crime reporter, 27 00:01:13,734 --> 00:01:17,604 Molly Shen thought she'd seen everything, 28 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,170 until June 4th, 2007. 29 00:01:24,300 --> 00:01:27,470 Shen: It started off as a typical day. 30 00:01:27,467 --> 00:01:29,327 Then the call came. 31 00:01:29,333 --> 00:01:31,073 We needed to stop everything that we were doing 32 00:01:31,066 --> 00:01:33,196 and get down to Puyallup. 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,100 Narrator: Molly soon found herself on the scene in Puyallup, 34 00:01:36,100 --> 00:01:41,230 a small, sleepy town 30 miles south of Seattle. 35 00:01:41,233 --> 00:01:44,333 A construction worker had discovered something unusual 36 00:01:44,333 --> 00:01:46,073 while leveling a house 37 00:01:46,066 --> 00:01:49,466 on a secluded street called Canyon Road. 38 00:01:49,467 --> 00:01:52,027 He was out there digging up the land 39 00:01:52,033 --> 00:01:53,573 and scooped something up, 40 00:01:53,567 --> 00:01:55,767 and instead of just dirt and rock 41 00:01:55,767 --> 00:01:58,167 he saw what looked like a bag or something there. 42 00:02:01,367 --> 00:02:05,667 So he got out of the excavator, 43 00:02:05,667 --> 00:02:07,197 went over to check it out... 44 00:02:14,767 --> 00:02:16,397 and opened it up... 45 00:02:18,767 --> 00:02:20,667 and saw bones. 46 00:02:22,100 --> 00:02:24,070 It was human bones. 47 00:02:26,533 --> 00:02:28,473 No one expects to find something like that, 48 00:02:28,467 --> 00:02:30,127 and I'd say he was pretty freaked out, 49 00:02:30,133 --> 00:02:33,333 and so he got out of there and called 911. 50 00:02:36,767 --> 00:02:39,397 Narrator: After talking to the stunned construction worker, 51 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,270 Molly had what she needed 52 00:02:41,266 --> 00:02:45,166 to begin reporting on the gruesome discovery. 53 00:02:45,166 --> 00:02:48,396 Shen: For decades, there was a single house on this property. 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,630 For decades, there was a gruesome secret 55 00:02:50,633 --> 00:02:54,033 buried between the house and garage. 56 00:02:54,033 --> 00:02:56,103 Narrator: Homicide Detective Ben Benson 57 00:02:56,100 --> 00:02:57,770 set upon the grisly task 58 00:02:57,767 --> 00:03:00,167 of examining the remains. 59 00:03:00,166 --> 00:03:02,366 The bones had definitely appeared to be 60 00:03:02,367 --> 00:03:05,697 in the ground for a long period of time. 61 00:03:05,700 --> 00:03:09,170 There was no flesh. 62 00:03:09,166 --> 00:03:11,366 The body had completely decomposed, 63 00:03:11,367 --> 00:03:13,097 and there was nothing left 64 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:17,770 but some remnants of some clothes and dirt. 65 00:03:17,767 --> 00:03:21,997 Dawn Farina: We could see a vertebrae inside the bag, 66 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,030 as well as a pelvis, a shoulder bone, 67 00:03:25,033 --> 00:03:29,073 and some other bones that clearly it was a human bones 68 00:03:29,066 --> 00:03:30,466 as opposed to an animal. 69 00:03:33,467 --> 00:03:35,327 Shen: You just immediately started to wonder, 70 00:03:35,333 --> 00:03:37,703 Who was it? How long have those remains been there? 71 00:03:37,700 --> 00:03:39,730 How long has that body been there? 72 00:03:39,734 --> 00:03:43,274 Narrator: As details about the unearthed bag of bones seeped 73 00:03:43,266 --> 00:03:45,326 into this quiet suburban neighborhood, 74 00:03:45,333 --> 00:03:46,733 rattled community members 75 00:03:46,734 --> 00:03:48,304 began gathering at the property 76 00:03:48,300 --> 00:03:50,070 wanting to know, 77 00:03:50,066 --> 00:03:52,726 who was the victim found buried in the backyard? 78 00:03:52,734 --> 00:03:55,074 Could it be someone they knew? 79 00:03:55,066 --> 00:03:57,466 Shen: It was a spectacle for that neighborhood. 80 00:03:57,467 --> 00:03:59,467 Everybody was coming by, asking, "What's going on? 81 00:03:59,467 --> 00:04:01,167 What's happening back here? 82 00:04:01,166 --> 00:04:03,196 Why are there so many police cars here?" 83 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,430 We also had a number of people stop by 84 00:04:05,433 --> 00:04:09,303 desperate for information about other missing people. 85 00:04:09,300 --> 00:04:13,330 Can't give up hope that my dad's body is gonna be found. 86 00:04:13,333 --> 00:04:15,573 And I know a lot of other people are missing people, too, 87 00:04:15,567 --> 00:04:18,097 but I still have the hope that it's him. 88 00:04:18,100 --> 00:04:20,300 Shen: That was sort of surreal, too, 89 00:04:20,300 --> 00:04:22,030 just knowing that there were people in the area 90 00:04:22,033 --> 00:04:23,633 who were missing loved ones 91 00:04:23,633 --> 00:04:27,373 and almost had this, you know, 92 00:04:27,367 --> 00:04:29,567 sort of awful hope 93 00:04:29,567 --> 00:04:31,627 that it was the person they knew and loved 94 00:04:31,633 --> 00:04:34,303 because that person was missing. 95 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:36,770 At this point this is a who-is-it, not a whodunit. 96 00:04:36,767 --> 00:04:38,697 You know, we'll figure that out later, 97 00:04:38,700 --> 00:04:40,670 but right now we wanna figure out who this is. 98 00:04:44,066 --> 00:04:47,026 Narrator: A forensic team began the painstaking task 99 00:04:47,033 --> 00:04:49,533 of searching the yard for additional bones. 100 00:04:49,533 --> 00:04:52,103 After nine hours of digging, 101 00:04:52,100 --> 00:04:54,000 51 were located, 102 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,000 all belonging to the same individual. 103 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,000 When the forensic anthropologist laid the bones out, 104 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,400 she told us that the bones were from a male, 105 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,000 and she was able to determine 106 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,530 that it was someone in their mid-50s. 107 00:05:11,533 --> 00:05:13,773 Narrator: Because no flesh remained on the bones, 108 00:05:13,767 --> 00:05:16,367 cause of death couldn't be accurately determined, 109 00:05:16,367 --> 00:05:19,167 but all signs pointed to homicide. 110 00:05:21,633 --> 00:05:23,673 Det. Benson: The body had been dismembered. 111 00:05:23,667 --> 00:05:27,367 She could see that there were clean cuts 112 00:05:27,367 --> 00:05:28,997 across the bone... 113 00:05:32,166 --> 00:05:34,426 and that a chainsaw was used 114 00:05:34,433 --> 00:05:36,073 to cut up the body. 115 00:05:38,166 --> 00:05:40,226 Farina: The shoulder had been cut in two 116 00:05:40,233 --> 00:05:42,403 with a-- approximately quarter-inch blade, 117 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,000 which again was consistent with a chainsaw. 118 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:46,500 Shen: It was pretty horrifying 119 00:05:46,500 --> 00:05:48,230 to realize what had happened there. 120 00:05:48,233 --> 00:05:53,173 The more you learned, the more sickening it became. 121 00:05:53,166 --> 00:05:56,296 Narrator: For investigators, this brutally challenging case 122 00:05:56,300 --> 00:05:59,700 was about to get even more difficult. 123 00:05:59,700 --> 00:06:03,230 The forensic anthropologist was able to determine 124 00:06:03,233 --> 00:06:06,303 that, based on the condition of the bones, 125 00:06:06,300 --> 00:06:10,230 they were buried for about 30 years. 126 00:06:10,233 --> 00:06:12,403 Narrator: Investigators were now looking 127 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,730 at trying to solve a crime 128 00:06:13,734 --> 00:06:16,174 three decades old. 129 00:06:16,166 --> 00:06:17,726 Their primary question: 130 00:06:17,734 --> 00:06:19,604 who lived in this quaint little house 131 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,300 on Canyon Road long ago 132 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:23,070 and attempted to hide a body 133 00:06:23,066 --> 00:06:25,266 so it would never be found? 134 00:06:25,266 --> 00:06:28,426 Shen: It could be someone has gone this long 135 00:06:28,433 --> 00:06:30,733 believing they got away with murder. 136 00:06:33,066 --> 00:06:35,466 Narrator: Detective Benson began his investigation 137 00:06:35,467 --> 00:06:37,197 by talking to the homeowners. 138 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,600 Understandably, 139 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,000 they were utterly distraught and shocked 140 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,470 that a body had been found on their property. 141 00:06:43,467 --> 00:06:45,327 Farina: The owners of the property 142 00:06:45,333 --> 00:06:48,273 had lived in the house until 1973. 143 00:06:48,266 --> 00:06:50,066 In 1974, 144 00:06:50,066 --> 00:06:52,196 they began renting the property out 145 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,100 to other individuals. 146 00:06:55,100 --> 00:06:57,630 Narrator: Because the owners hadn't lived there in decades, 147 00:06:57,633 --> 00:06:59,503 they were ruled out as suspects, 148 00:06:59,500 --> 00:07:01,300 but that meant detectives 149 00:07:01,300 --> 00:07:03,470 would have to investigate each of the renters 150 00:07:03,467 --> 00:07:04,497 who lived in the house 151 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:06,170 between the late 1970s 152 00:07:06,166 --> 00:07:07,626 and the early 1980s, 153 00:07:07,633 --> 00:07:10,503 a daunting task... 154 00:07:10,500 --> 00:07:14,470 until they caught a lucky break. 155 00:07:14,467 --> 00:07:16,327 Farina: The owner told the police 156 00:07:16,333 --> 00:07:18,303 that he remembered a woman 157 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:20,600 coming by many years before 158 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,330 looking for her father. 159 00:07:22,333 --> 00:07:23,773 She had explained 160 00:07:23,767 --> 00:07:26,597 that he had last been seen 161 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,370 at a house on the property 162 00:07:28,367 --> 00:07:30,367 where the bones were found. 163 00:07:30,367 --> 00:07:32,197 Det. Benson: She actually got permission 164 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:33,770 to walk around the property 165 00:07:33,767 --> 00:07:36,467 and look to see if she could see anything unusual. 166 00:07:36,467 --> 00:07:38,227 She thought maybe he had disappeared 167 00:07:38,233 --> 00:07:41,133 and something had happened to him there. 168 00:07:41,133 --> 00:07:42,673 Narrator: This new lead, while promising, 169 00:07:42,667 --> 00:07:45,127 only raised more questions. 170 00:07:45,133 --> 00:07:46,773 Who was the woman who came 171 00:07:46,767 --> 00:07:50,267 looking for her father all those years ago? 172 00:07:50,266 --> 00:07:53,326 Was the mystery victim actually her father? 173 00:07:53,333 --> 00:07:55,773 And if it was, who was responsible 174 00:07:55,767 --> 00:07:57,727 for dismembering his body? 175 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,500 Det. Benson: I ran a background check. 176 00:08:01,500 --> 00:08:03,270 He had done time in prison 177 00:08:03,266 --> 00:08:04,726 for killing a person. 178 00:08:04,734 --> 00:08:07,234 Gypsy Tarricone: She was young, beautiful. 179 00:08:07,233 --> 00:08:10,173 I said, "She's only using you for your money." 180 00:08:11,533 --> 00:08:13,233 Once you kill one person, 181 00:08:13,233 --> 00:08:14,503 it's easy to kill another one. 182 00:08:28,467 --> 00:08:28,667 Narrator: 183 00:08:28,667 --> 00:08:29,097 Narrator: When the bones 184 00:08:29,100 --> 00:08:29,430 Narrator: When the bones of a dismembered man 185 00:08:32,033 --> 00:08:33,573 were found buried in a back yard in Puyallup, Washington, 186 00:08:33,567 --> 00:08:35,627 detectives had very few clues 187 00:08:35,633 --> 00:08:37,373 as to who he was 188 00:08:37,367 --> 00:08:39,567 or who could've committed the murder. 189 00:08:39,567 --> 00:08:41,097 Their most promising lead 190 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:43,300 was a report from the property owner 191 00:08:43,300 --> 00:08:46,230 about a young woman who had come to the house years earlier 192 00:08:46,233 --> 00:08:49,033 looking for her missing father. 193 00:08:49,033 --> 00:08:53,033 So, the property owner thought that he potentially was the person 194 00:08:53,033 --> 00:08:55,033 that was buried in the back yard. 195 00:08:55,033 --> 00:08:58,233 Narrator: But investigators knew that even if it was true, 196 00:08:58,233 --> 00:08:59,733 finding additional information 197 00:08:59,734 --> 00:09:02,074 about the anonymous man or his daughter 198 00:09:02,066 --> 00:09:05,066 could prove to be an impossible task. 199 00:09:05,066 --> 00:09:08,466 But then, fate intervened. 200 00:09:08,467 --> 00:09:11,597 Shen: For decades, there was a single house on this property. 201 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,470 For decades, there was a gruesome secret buried 202 00:09:14,467 --> 00:09:16,667 between the house and garage. 203 00:09:16,667 --> 00:09:20,067 Farina: A woman who worked in the King County Sheriff's office 204 00:09:20,066 --> 00:09:22,466 as the missing persons coordinator 205 00:09:22,467 --> 00:09:26,597 had heard about the discovery of the bones on TV, 206 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,200 and the address of where the remains were found, 207 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:31,470 off of Canyon Road, 208 00:09:31,467 --> 00:09:34,467 it triggered something in her mind. 209 00:09:34,467 --> 00:09:36,467 Benson: About this point in time, 210 00:09:36,467 --> 00:09:38,327 I'm contacted by Jan Rhodes 211 00:09:38,333 --> 00:09:40,233 from the King County Sheriff's Department. 212 00:09:40,233 --> 00:09:43,433 And she tells me that they have a missing person case 213 00:09:43,433 --> 00:09:46,433 where the person that is listed as missing 214 00:09:46,433 --> 00:09:49,673 is a man by the name of Joseph Tarricone. 215 00:09:52,633 --> 00:09:56,373 Farina: The family had last spoken to Mr. Tarricone 216 00:09:56,367 --> 00:09:59,497 in September of 1978. 217 00:09:59,500 --> 00:10:01,370 This was consistent 218 00:10:01,367 --> 00:10:04,427 with what the forensic anthropologist determined 219 00:10:04,433 --> 00:10:06,633 were the age of the bones 220 00:10:06,633 --> 00:10:08,033 that were recovered 221 00:10:08,033 --> 00:10:09,633 on the site. 222 00:10:09,633 --> 00:10:11,503 Det. Benson: The missing person report 223 00:10:11,500 --> 00:10:13,230 links me to Joe's daughter, 224 00:10:13,233 --> 00:10:14,773 Gypsy Tarricone. 225 00:10:14,767 --> 00:10:16,697 I was able to contact her, 226 00:10:16,700 --> 00:10:19,100 and she came down to my office, 227 00:10:19,100 --> 00:10:23,530 and we started talking about her father. 228 00:10:23,533 --> 00:10:25,373 Tarricone: Detective Benson said, 229 00:10:25,367 --> 00:10:31,467 "Do you remember this house on Canyon Road?" 230 00:10:31,467 --> 00:10:34,397 And when he started that "Canyon Road," 231 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,530 I was, like, kinda like going into shock 232 00:10:37,533 --> 00:10:40,203 'cause the last time anyone saw my dad 233 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,000 was at that house. 234 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,270 Narrator: Suddenly everything clicked. 235 00:10:45,266 --> 00:10:47,526 Gypsy Tarricone was the same woman 236 00:10:47,533 --> 00:10:50,403 who had come to the house looking for her father years earlier, 237 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,670 but police still needed to determine 238 00:10:52,667 --> 00:10:54,127 if the found remains 239 00:10:54,133 --> 00:10:56,333 belonged to Joe Tarricone. 240 00:10:56,333 --> 00:11:00,133 To find out, they got a DNA sample from Gypsy, 241 00:11:00,133 --> 00:11:01,673 and three weeks later, 242 00:11:01,667 --> 00:11:04,697 the results came back. 243 00:11:04,700 --> 00:11:09,030 The bones did indeed belong to Gypsy's dad. 244 00:11:09,033 --> 00:11:12,503 I was in shock. And I just said, "I knew it. 245 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:16,700 I knew it. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. I knew it." 246 00:11:16,700 --> 00:11:19,300 Narrator: But who wanted Joe dead? 247 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:21,300 Detectives needed Gypsy's help 248 00:11:21,300 --> 00:11:23,300 in retracing his final steps 249 00:11:23,300 --> 00:11:25,070 three decades ago. 250 00:11:29,433 --> 00:11:31,633 Gypsy: My father was a meat distributor. 251 00:11:31,633 --> 00:11:34,433 He was just like a traveling salesman, selling meat. 252 00:11:34,433 --> 00:11:38,173 He would go to the bars at night, 253 00:11:38,166 --> 00:11:40,426 sell to the bars and the lounges, 254 00:11:40,433 --> 00:11:43,573 sausage, steaks, 255 00:11:43,567 --> 00:11:45,667 and eventually he decided, 256 00:11:45,667 --> 00:11:48,397 "Hey, I'm gonna go to Alaska and open up my own shop." 257 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,730 And he did, 258 00:11:50,734 --> 00:11:54,474 and he was quite successful up there. 259 00:11:54,467 --> 00:11:57,397 Narrator: Joe's new business in Anchorage was thriving, 260 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,330 but being so far from his family took its toll. 261 00:12:01,333 --> 00:12:03,473 Joe's marriage to Gypsy's mom 262 00:12:03,467 --> 00:12:05,467 ended in 1976. 263 00:12:05,467 --> 00:12:09,067 Gypsy: Family was really important to my dad, 264 00:12:09,066 --> 00:12:12,466 and after my parents' divorce, 265 00:12:12,467 --> 00:12:15,297 I think he was really lost in the world. 266 00:12:16,700 --> 00:12:20,270 He started dating these younger women. 267 00:12:20,266 --> 00:12:21,726 Narrator: One of those younger women 268 00:12:21,734 --> 00:12:23,474 was a receptionist at Joe's company 269 00:12:23,467 --> 00:12:25,327 named Renee Curtiss. 270 00:12:25,333 --> 00:12:27,733 Joe was instantly smitten. 271 00:12:27,734 --> 00:12:31,634 Gypsy: She was young, beautiful, in his eyes. 272 00:12:31,633 --> 00:12:33,773 I think how the relationship started 273 00:12:33,767 --> 00:12:37,297 is probably my dad showed an interest in her, 274 00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:41,770 and she knew, you know, he made a lot of money, 275 00:12:41,767 --> 00:12:43,497 and he was a likeable man. 276 00:12:43,500 --> 00:12:45,370 I mean, I'm sure she liked him. 277 00:12:45,367 --> 00:12:51,167 He bought her jewelry, clothes. whatever she wanted. 278 00:12:51,166 --> 00:12:55,596 You know, her wish was... his command. 279 00:12:57,500 --> 00:13:00,370 He just talked about Renee, Renee, Renee. 280 00:13:00,367 --> 00:13:01,697 Renee, Renee, Renee. 281 00:13:01,700 --> 00:13:03,300 And I looked at my dad, 282 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:07,600 and I said, "Dad, please, come on. 283 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,400 She's only using you for your money." 284 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,130 He just could not see that. 285 00:13:15,133 --> 00:13:18,403 He wasn't hearing anything anyone said by this time. 286 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,670 He was probably lonely and lost, 287 00:13:20,667 --> 00:13:23,397 and so he wanted some companionship. 288 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,270 Narrator: Although Joe didn't have a problem 289 00:13:25,266 --> 00:13:27,266 being with a woman half his age, 290 00:13:27,266 --> 00:13:29,396 Renee had some doubts. 291 00:13:32,133 --> 00:13:34,473 After just a couple of months of dating, 292 00:13:34,467 --> 00:13:36,997 Renee decided to leave Anchorage 293 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,000 and relocate to the Seattle area 294 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,530 to move in with her mother, Geraldine Hesse, 295 00:13:41,533 --> 00:13:44,373 in the small yellow house on Canyon Road. 296 00:13:46,066 --> 00:13:48,726 Her mother made it clear she wasn't crazy 297 00:13:48,734 --> 00:13:51,434 about Renee's relationship with Joe. 298 00:13:51,433 --> 00:13:53,033 But back in Anchorage, 299 00:13:53,033 --> 00:13:55,303 Joe was still in love with Renee 300 00:13:55,300 --> 00:13:57,500 and believed he could make things work. 301 00:13:57,500 --> 00:14:00,430 He wasn't ready to give up. 302 00:14:00,433 --> 00:14:02,703 Farina: He would fly to the Seattle area 303 00:14:02,700 --> 00:14:06,030 twice a month to see Renee Curtiss. 304 00:14:06,033 --> 00:14:07,303 When he was here, 305 00:14:07,300 --> 00:14:11,770 he would also see his daughter Gina. 306 00:14:11,767 --> 00:14:14,567 My dad came down for a visit to see Renee, 307 00:14:14,567 --> 00:14:16,697 and he saw me at the same time 308 00:14:16,700 --> 00:14:18,700 towards the end of July. 309 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:21,230 Narrator: The last time Gina remembers seeing her father 310 00:14:21,233 --> 00:14:22,773 was after one of those visits, 311 00:14:22,767 --> 00:14:25,167 in July of 1978. 312 00:14:25,166 --> 00:14:27,526 Gina: After that visit, I tried to call him, 313 00:14:27,533 --> 00:14:29,303 and it would just ring and ring and ring, 314 00:14:29,300 --> 00:14:30,630 and then I was getting more concerned 315 00:14:30,633 --> 00:14:32,203 as the weeks were going by, 316 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,400 still no answer. 317 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,270 That really alarmed me 318 00:14:35,266 --> 00:14:37,996 because that was not my father. 319 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,270 Narrator: Gina and Gypsy didn't believe their dad 320 00:14:40,266 --> 00:14:43,466 would just abandon his family like that. 321 00:14:43,467 --> 00:14:47,727 My dad loved his kids. You had three younger ones still at home. 322 00:14:47,734 --> 00:14:51,204 Narrator: So after six weeks without hearing from Joe, 323 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,130 his daughters finally decided to get law enforcement involved. 324 00:14:57,066 --> 00:14:59,326 I'm thinking that I just better go down 325 00:14:59,333 --> 00:15:02,473 and put in a missing persons report. 326 00:15:02,467 --> 00:15:04,467 Narrator: In August of 1978, 327 00:15:04,467 --> 00:15:08,067 local authorities paid a visit to the house on Canyon Road, 328 00:15:08,066 --> 00:15:11,526 the last place Joe had been seen. 329 00:15:11,533 --> 00:15:14,033 They were greeted by Renee and Geraldine, 330 00:15:14,033 --> 00:15:17,703 who told police they hadn't seen Joe for several weeks. 331 00:15:17,700 --> 00:15:22,430 They also mentioned his last visit hadn't ended very well. 332 00:15:22,433 --> 00:15:25,773 Gypsy: Renee said my dad came to their house 333 00:15:25,767 --> 00:15:29,227 with tickets to go to Rome, 334 00:15:29,233 --> 00:15:31,233 to ask Renee to get married, 335 00:15:31,233 --> 00:15:34,233 and that they were going to go off to Rome together. 336 00:15:34,233 --> 00:15:37,173 She said no. 337 00:15:37,166 --> 00:15:38,626 Renee told the detective 338 00:15:38,633 --> 00:15:40,633 he was in a mad fury, 339 00:15:40,633 --> 00:15:42,633 threw the tickets down, 340 00:15:42,633 --> 00:15:44,133 and stomped away. 341 00:15:47,500 --> 00:15:50,200 Narrator: Police found no evidence of foul play, 342 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,630 and the case stalled. 343 00:15:53,633 --> 00:15:56,673 But the story didn't add up for Joe's daughters, 344 00:15:56,667 --> 00:16:00,197 who decided to take matters into their own hands. 345 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,400 ( phone ringing ) 346 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,400 Gina: I finally decided to call Renee, 347 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,400 and her mother Geraldine picked up. 348 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,200 Gypsy: Geraldine went on to say, 349 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,230 "Well, I haven't seen your father in a while, 350 00:16:12,233 --> 00:16:14,473 but you know your dad. 351 00:16:14,467 --> 00:16:17,627 Don't worry. You'll hear from him again." 352 00:16:17,633 --> 00:16:19,673 And then we never heard from him again. 353 00:16:22,533 --> 00:16:25,533 Narrator: Weeks passed, then months, 354 00:16:25,533 --> 00:16:28,673 and still there was no word from Joe. 355 00:16:32,533 --> 00:16:35,403 It was-- 356 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,430 as time went on, it was hard. 357 00:16:37,433 --> 00:16:39,303 I mean, you know, you get busy with your life. 358 00:16:39,300 --> 00:16:43,030 I had four kids, so I was a very busy mom. 359 00:16:43,033 --> 00:16:44,703 We put in a missing report, 360 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:47,630 and periodically we would check in with the King County police 361 00:16:47,633 --> 00:16:49,703 where the report was taken. 362 00:16:49,700 --> 00:16:53,030 You know, next year, the year after. 363 00:16:53,033 --> 00:16:55,433 And eventually, years later, 364 00:16:55,433 --> 00:16:58,373 I went to my brothers and sisters and said, 365 00:16:58,367 --> 00:17:00,167 "Either we're going to find out what happened to him, 366 00:17:00,166 --> 00:17:02,026 or we're gonna get him declared dead." 367 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,030 Narrator: Twelve years after Joe's disappearance, 368 00:17:07,033 --> 00:17:08,703 Gypsy still hadn't given up hope 369 00:17:08,700 --> 00:17:10,170 of finding her father. 370 00:17:10,166 --> 00:17:11,696 In 1990, 371 00:17:11,700 --> 00:17:13,430 she decided to pay a visit 372 00:17:13,433 --> 00:17:16,433 to the house on Canyon Road. 373 00:17:16,433 --> 00:17:19,573 By then, Renee and Geraldine had moved out, 374 00:17:19,567 --> 00:17:22,197 and it was occupied by new tenants. 375 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,070 Gypsy: I introduced myself, 376 00:17:24,066 --> 00:17:27,596 and I said, you know, my father was missing, 377 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:32,070 and years ago his girlfriend lived there, 378 00:17:32,066 --> 00:17:35,726 and could you give me any information, whatever she had. 379 00:17:35,734 --> 00:17:40,604 And she said no, she didn't have any information. 380 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,730 Narrator: The woman did allow Gypsy to inspect the property. 381 00:17:43,734 --> 00:17:46,474 She didn't find anything suspicious, 382 00:17:46,467 --> 00:17:48,267 but she couldn't shake the feeling 383 00:17:48,266 --> 00:17:50,326 that Renee Curtiss and Geraldine Hesse 384 00:17:50,333 --> 00:17:53,033 had something to do with her father's death. 385 00:17:57,333 --> 00:17:58,533 Det. Benson: At this point in time, 386 00:17:58,533 --> 00:18:00,733 Renee is being identified 387 00:18:00,734 --> 00:18:02,504 as a possible suspect 388 00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:05,230 by Gypsy, the daughter of our victim. 389 00:18:05,233 --> 00:18:08,033 So I run a background check on Renee Curtis, 390 00:18:08,033 --> 00:18:10,633 and I figure out that she is currently residing in Seattle, 391 00:18:10,633 --> 00:18:13,773 but I didn't see any huge red flags 392 00:18:13,767 --> 00:18:16,567 that jumped out at us regarding Renee. 393 00:18:16,567 --> 00:18:19,627 My next step was to run a background check on Geraldine Hesse, 394 00:18:19,633 --> 00:18:23,373 and I found out that she had died several years earlier. 395 00:18:23,367 --> 00:18:26,227 Narrator: Initially, nothing seemed suspicious 396 00:18:26,233 --> 00:18:27,703 about Renee or her mother, 397 00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:31,030 but then a closer look at family records 398 00:18:31,033 --> 00:18:33,373 revealed some new information. 399 00:18:33,367 --> 00:18:35,627 Renee had an adopted sibling 400 00:18:35,633 --> 00:18:38,303 named Nick Notaro. 401 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:41,100 Det. Benson: So I ran a background check on Renee Curtis's brother, 402 00:18:41,100 --> 00:18:45,330 and it was revealed that he had done time in prison 403 00:18:45,333 --> 00:18:50,133 for killing a person up in Alaska back in the '70s. 404 00:18:50,133 --> 00:18:52,133 I do believe that once you kill one person, 405 00:18:52,133 --> 00:18:53,373 it's easy to kill another one. 406 00:18:56,133 --> 00:18:59,133 And the fact that he had committed a murder in Alaska, 407 00:18:59,133 --> 00:19:01,273 it lent more credence to the fact 408 00:19:01,266 --> 00:19:04,196 that he could've committed a murder in Washington. 409 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:18,600 Narrator: 410 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:19,230 Narrator: In 2007, Seattle detectives 411 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,130 ramped up their investigation 412 00:19:23,133 --> 00:19:25,273 into the murder of Joe Tarricone, 413 00:19:25,266 --> 00:19:26,696 whose buried remains 414 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:30,000 were found next to a house on Canyon Road. 415 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,630 They discovered a connection 416 00:19:31,633 --> 00:19:34,003 between two of the home's former residents: 417 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,400 Geraldine Hesse and her daughter, Renee Curtiss. 418 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,700 They also learned that Geraldine's adopted son Nick 419 00:19:41,700 --> 00:19:43,430 had a murderous past. 420 00:19:43,433 --> 00:19:45,173 Det. Benson: When I learned that Nick 421 00:19:45,166 --> 00:19:46,666 had been convicted of manslaughter in Alaska, 422 00:19:46,667 --> 00:19:50,027 I immediately requested a copy of their case file 423 00:19:50,033 --> 00:19:52,133 from that investigation. 424 00:19:54,300 --> 00:19:57,300 When I investigate Nick's murder conviction, 425 00:19:57,300 --> 00:20:03,300 I find that he had murdered his wife in 1978 426 00:20:03,300 --> 00:20:07,730 up in the area of Fairbanks, Alaska. 427 00:20:07,734 --> 00:20:11,474 While they were driving back to Anchorage, 428 00:20:11,467 --> 00:20:14,067 he pulled off the road 429 00:20:14,066 --> 00:20:16,226 into a kind of a gravel pit area... 430 00:20:23,066 --> 00:20:26,266 ( woman screams ) 431 00:20:28,467 --> 00:20:32,197 ...and shot and killed her. 432 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,300 She was shot at a distance in the back of the head... 433 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,270 ...and then shot at close range 434 00:20:39,266 --> 00:20:40,766 on the left side of her head. 435 00:20:44,433 --> 00:20:46,403 Narrator: In March of 2008, 436 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,370 Nicholas Notaro was arrested 437 00:20:48,367 --> 00:20:51,497 and charged with first degree murder. 438 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:54,570 Det. Benson: He served eight years in prison for killing his wife. 439 00:20:54,567 --> 00:20:56,197 I thought that was a little light, 440 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,100 but back in the '70s, 441 00:20:58,100 --> 00:21:00,630 there was a lot of people being murdered up in Alaska 442 00:21:00,633 --> 00:21:03,303 and that if somebody was willing to take a deal, they gave it to him. 443 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:07,200 And that's how Nick got lucky on that case. 444 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,070 Narrator: After serving his eight-year sentence, 445 00:21:11,066 --> 00:21:14,066 Nick Notaro was released on parole. 446 00:21:14,066 --> 00:21:17,296 He moved from Alaska to Washington State, 447 00:21:17,300 --> 00:21:19,200 where instead of turning over a new leaf, 448 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,330 he found himself the target 449 00:21:21,333 --> 00:21:23,603 of another murder investigation. 450 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,230 Det. Benson: Reading through the case file, I learned 451 00:21:26,233 --> 00:21:28,703 that there was a period of time from when he killed his wife 452 00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:30,670 until he was arrested. 453 00:21:30,667 --> 00:21:33,767 In the case file they had the paper reports, 454 00:21:33,767 --> 00:21:35,997 and they had some photocopies of some things. 455 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,100 One of the things was a plane ticket. 456 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:41,070 Nick had purchased an airline ticket 457 00:21:41,066 --> 00:21:42,996 in August of 1978 458 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,230 to fly to Washington State. 459 00:21:45,233 --> 00:21:46,733 It put him in our area 460 00:21:46,734 --> 00:21:48,534 around the same time that Joseph Tarricone 461 00:21:48,533 --> 00:21:51,233 was murdered, dismembered, 462 00:21:51,233 --> 00:21:52,603 and buried in the back yard. 463 00:21:55,333 --> 00:21:58,103 Narrator: Detective Benson suspected that Nick Notaro 464 00:21:58,100 --> 00:22:00,400 might have killed Joe Tarricone 465 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,130 the last time Joe showed up 466 00:22:02,133 --> 00:22:03,773 to visit Nick's sister Renee, 467 00:22:03,767 --> 00:22:06,297 the woman he was still in love with. 468 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,300 But what could have been his motive? 469 00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:14,670 There was only one way to find out. 470 00:22:14,667 --> 00:22:16,567 Det. Benson: I tracked down Nicholas, 471 00:22:16,567 --> 00:22:21,397 and learned that he was nearing the end of his probation 472 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,770 and he only had a couple more meetings 473 00:22:23,767 --> 00:22:25,267 where he had to come in and meet with her 474 00:22:25,266 --> 00:22:26,766 before his probation would be over. 475 00:22:29,433 --> 00:22:31,373 Narrator: In July of 2007, 476 00:22:31,367 --> 00:22:32,427 at a probation office 477 00:22:32,433 --> 00:22:34,173 outside Seattle, 478 00:22:34,166 --> 00:22:37,426 Detective Benson finally got his chance 479 00:22:37,433 --> 00:22:41,233 to question Nick Notaro. 480 00:22:41,233 --> 00:22:43,403 Det. Benson: Nicholas, you told us that you'd been arrested 481 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,770 for involuntary manslaughter. 482 00:22:44,767 --> 00:22:46,197 Was that the charge? 483 00:22:49,233 --> 00:22:53,073 What was the initial charge you were arrested for? 484 00:22:53,066 --> 00:22:56,166 Okay, and that-- just briefly tell me 485 00:22:56,166 --> 00:22:59,126 the circumstances regarding that charge 486 00:22:59,133 --> 00:23:00,703 or what caused you to get arrested for that. 487 00:23:03,734 --> 00:23:05,774 Okay, and where did that occur at? 488 00:23:11,734 --> 00:23:14,334 At that point in time you believed that your wife 489 00:23:14,333 --> 00:23:17,473 was fooling around on you. Is that right? 490 00:23:17,467 --> 00:23:19,167 And why did you believe that? 491 00:23:29,433 --> 00:23:31,473 Narrator: Nick Notaro talked openly 492 00:23:31,467 --> 00:23:33,197 about the murder of his wife, 493 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,570 so Detective Benson 494 00:23:34,567 --> 00:23:35,727 steered the conversation 495 00:23:35,734 --> 00:23:38,474 toward the case at hand. 496 00:23:38,467 --> 00:23:40,667 Det. Benson: How did you end up getting the job up there in Healy? 497 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,570 What was his name? 498 00:23:54,567 --> 00:23:57,327 Joe. Okay. 499 00:23:57,333 --> 00:23:59,403 Can you remember Joe's last name? 500 00:24:04,367 --> 00:24:05,767 He was Italian? Okay. 501 00:24:05,767 --> 00:24:08,727 What else do you remember about Joe? 502 00:24:08,734 --> 00:24:11,134 He was Italian. 503 00:24:17,633 --> 00:24:20,673 Narrator: Notaro claimed his memories of Joe were fuzzy, 504 00:24:20,667 --> 00:24:24,067 but his body language told detectives otherwise, 505 00:24:24,066 --> 00:24:26,126 so they kept pressing him. 506 00:24:26,133 --> 00:24:28,133 We've now got him talking about Joe. 507 00:24:28,133 --> 00:24:30,003 We've got him talking about Joe getting him a job 508 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,000 up in Alaska. 509 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,200 We've got him talking about Joe being Renee's boyfriend. 510 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,130 And every time he would mention Joe's name, 511 00:24:38,133 --> 00:24:40,173 he would scoot back a little bit in his chair. 512 00:24:44,233 --> 00:24:48,373 Pretty soon Detective Wood and I are sitting at this table in this room, 513 00:24:48,367 --> 00:24:52,267 and we looked and Nicholas is across the room, 514 00:24:52,266 --> 00:24:54,226 and I asked him, I said, 515 00:24:54,233 --> 00:24:56,133 "Nicholas, where are you going?" 516 00:24:56,133 --> 00:24:59,573 And he kinda had a moment, and he looked around, 517 00:24:59,567 --> 00:25:01,627 and brought it back over at the table, 518 00:25:01,633 --> 00:25:04,533 and we can continue with the interview. 519 00:25:04,533 --> 00:25:06,133 Did you ever see Joe down here 520 00:25:06,133 --> 00:25:09,273 after Renee came down here, 521 00:25:09,266 --> 00:25:13,096 and she was living in Alaska for a while, 522 00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:17,300 and then you said she and your mom moved down to Washington? 523 00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:20,170 And that's where you came and visited them? 524 00:25:20,166 --> 00:25:24,126 - Yes. - After you killed Vickie? 525 00:25:24,133 --> 00:25:26,673 And was Joe hanging around down here then 526 00:25:26,667 --> 00:25:30,027 or was he up-- did he come down here with Renee? 527 00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:33,170 Narrator: Detectives then revealed 528 00:25:33,166 --> 00:25:35,026 the real reason for their visit. 529 00:25:35,033 --> 00:25:36,403 Det. Benson: I told Nicholas 530 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,700 that we were in fact investigating 531 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:41,030 the murder of Joseph Tarricone 532 00:25:41,033 --> 00:25:44,733 and that human remains had been found on the property 533 00:25:44,734 --> 00:25:49,704 where his mother had lived in Puyallup back in 1978, 534 00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:51,400 so then we just asked him to tell us 535 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,300 what happened to Joe. 536 00:25:56,033 --> 00:25:57,433 He just came right out with it, 537 00:25:57,433 --> 00:25:59,433 and he told us that his mother Geraldine 538 00:25:59,433 --> 00:26:02,503 had shot and killed Joseph Tarricone. 539 00:26:08,734 --> 00:26:11,674 Narrator: But what possible motive would Geraldine have 540 00:26:11,667 --> 00:26:13,467 to commit murder? 541 00:26:13,467 --> 00:26:16,197 Detectives had the feeling the chilling truth 542 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,570 was only beginning to unravel. 543 00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:29,270 Narrator: 544 00:26:29,266 --> 00:26:29,666 Narrator: In 2007, 30 years after 545 00:26:29,667 --> 00:26:30,267 Narrator: In 2007, 30 years after Joe Tarricone disappeared 546 00:26:33,367 --> 00:26:36,197 and just a few months after his bones were discovered 547 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,230 behind the house on Canyon Road, 548 00:26:38,233 --> 00:26:41,233 detectives finally had a break in the case. 549 00:26:41,233 --> 00:26:45,633 Nick Notaro, the son of one of the home's former residents, 550 00:26:45,633 --> 00:26:48,033 said his mother, Geraldine Hesse, 551 00:26:48,033 --> 00:26:50,203 was responsible for Joe's killing. 552 00:26:51,433 --> 00:26:53,633 ( gun fires ) 553 00:26:53,633 --> 00:26:55,503 When we asked Nicholas why this happened, 554 00:26:55,500 --> 00:27:00,100 he said that Joseph would not leave Renee alone. 555 00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:02,500 He wanted a relationship with Renee, 556 00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:05,500 and he wasn't taking no for an answer. 557 00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:07,200 He was hounding her. 558 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,730 He was always trying to get her into bed. 559 00:27:08,734 --> 00:27:10,674 So Geraldine, according to Nicholas, 560 00:27:10,667 --> 00:27:12,267 took it upon herself 561 00:27:12,266 --> 00:27:14,466 to solve the problem. 562 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,000 His mother, Geraldine, had shot and killed Joseph Tarricone, 563 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,630 and she put him in the freezer 564 00:27:24,633 --> 00:27:27,003 in the basement at her house in Puyallup, 565 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,730 chopped him up with a chainsaw, 566 00:27:29,734 --> 00:27:32,674 and buried him in the back yard. 567 00:27:32,667 --> 00:27:36,127 Narrator: Something about Nick Notaro's blunt revelation 568 00:27:36,133 --> 00:27:38,673 seemed suspicious to investigators, 569 00:27:38,667 --> 00:27:40,767 and because his mother Geraldine 570 00:27:40,767 --> 00:27:42,627 had passed away years earlier, 571 00:27:42,633 --> 00:27:45,533 there was no way it could be proven. 572 00:27:45,533 --> 00:27:48,303 Det. Benson: The story that he gave made no sense. 573 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:51,030 Joseph would've been too heavy for Geraldine 574 00:27:51,033 --> 00:27:53,703 to pick up by herself and put in the freezer. 575 00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:58,230 And we told him that we didn't believe his story. 576 00:27:58,233 --> 00:28:01,403 I told Nicholas that I believed that he and his sister 577 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,430 had something to do with killing Joseph Tarricone, 578 00:28:05,433 --> 00:28:07,703 and his reaction was, 579 00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:11,570 "My sister had nothing to do with this whatsoever." 580 00:28:14,033 --> 00:28:16,033 That was basically all it took, 581 00:28:16,033 --> 00:28:18,303 and he said, "Yeah," 582 00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:20,770 that he was the one that shot Joe. 583 00:28:20,767 --> 00:28:22,527 Narrator: Detective Benson had a hunch 584 00:28:22,533 --> 00:28:25,133 that Nick Notaro didn't act alone, 585 00:28:25,133 --> 00:28:27,603 so he asked Nick to explain exactly 586 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,300 how the murder took place. 587 00:28:31,300 --> 00:28:34,430 Det. Benson: Nicholas said that they were upstairs in the house, 588 00:28:34,433 --> 00:28:36,333 and he told Joseph that they were having a problem 589 00:28:36,333 --> 00:28:37,703 with the washing machine. 590 00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:40,170 And he asked him to come downstairs 591 00:28:40,166 --> 00:28:41,666 to take a look at the washing machine 592 00:28:41,667 --> 00:28:44,227 to see if he could determine what was wrong. 593 00:28:49,467 --> 00:28:51,197 Then when they got to the basement 594 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,700 and Joe leaned over the washing machine... 595 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,630 Nicholas came up behind him and shot him in the head. 596 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,730 Narrator: Notaro went on to explain 597 00:29:08,734 --> 00:29:11,704 how he used a chainsaw to dismember Joe, 598 00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:13,370 but Detective Benson, 599 00:29:13,367 --> 00:29:15,597 who was carefully listening to every word, 600 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,370 found a flaw in Notaro's story. 601 00:29:18,367 --> 00:29:20,727 Det. Benson: He said that "we" went to the store 602 00:29:20,734 --> 00:29:23,204 to buy the chainsaw. 603 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,070 I said, "You said, 'We went to buy the chainsaw.' 604 00:29:26,066 --> 00:29:27,996 Who went with you to buy the chainsaw?" 605 00:29:30,066 --> 00:29:31,666 Asked him who the "we" was. 606 00:29:36,033 --> 00:29:39,033 And he said, "I don't remember." 607 00:29:42,367 --> 00:29:45,667 He didn't say, "It was my mom." He said, "I can't remember." 608 00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:50,100 That was the significant piece right there, 609 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:51,770 that told us that there was somebody else there 610 00:29:51,767 --> 00:29:53,497 besides Geraldine. 611 00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:55,130 But he stuck to his story 612 00:29:55,133 --> 00:29:57,233 that Renee had nothing to do with it. 613 00:29:57,233 --> 00:29:59,373 He said that she was living in Hawaii at the time 614 00:29:59,367 --> 00:30:03,667 and that after he had done this, 615 00:30:03,667 --> 00:30:06,097 he and his mother 616 00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:08,130 were the two that dismembered 617 00:30:08,133 --> 00:30:09,573 Joe in the basement... 618 00:30:13,533 --> 00:30:16,733 and that he then buried him in the back yard. 619 00:30:19,367 --> 00:30:21,627 Narrator: Detective Benson had all he needed 620 00:30:21,633 --> 00:30:26,603 to arrest Nick Notaro for the murder of Joseph Tarricone. 621 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,530 Det. Benson: There wasn't much of a reaction from him. 622 00:30:28,533 --> 00:30:30,403 He stood up and was cooperative, 623 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,370 and we handcuffed him and walked him out of the building 624 00:30:33,367 --> 00:30:35,667 and handed him over to some patrol deputies, 625 00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:37,267 and they transported him to jail. 626 00:30:40,033 --> 00:30:43,403 Gypsy: My thought on Nick's story, that he did this on his own, 627 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,130 I certainly don't believe that. 628 00:30:45,133 --> 00:30:49,333 I don't think he has the mental capability to do it. 629 00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:53,570 I believe he would do it on order of his sister. 630 00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:02,300 Det. Benson: Nicholas didn't have a reason to kill Joseph Tarricone 631 00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:04,270 unless Renee put him up to it. 632 00:31:04,266 --> 00:31:06,096 Narrator: But was Renee Curtiss, 633 00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:07,700 a pretty 25-year-old 634 00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:09,170 with no police record 635 00:31:09,166 --> 00:31:11,366 really an accomplice to murder? 636 00:31:11,367 --> 00:31:15,327 Detective Benson was determined to find out. 637 00:31:15,333 --> 00:31:18,433 So now our next step is to go talk to Renee. 638 00:31:35,533 --> 00:31:35,733 Narrator: 639 00:31:35,734 --> 00:31:36,304 Narrator: In 2007, Nicholas Notaro 640 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,400 was arrested for killing Joe Tarricone 641 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,670 30 years earlier, 642 00:31:42,667 --> 00:31:44,327 but Detective Ben Benson 643 00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:48,073 was convinced Notaro didn't act alone. 644 00:31:48,066 --> 00:31:51,366 He shifted his focus to Nick's sister Renee. 645 00:31:55,033 --> 00:31:56,633 Det. Benson: Fairly early on in the investigation, 646 00:31:56,633 --> 00:31:58,233 I learned that Renee 647 00:31:58,233 --> 00:32:00,473 was married to a bail bondsman up in Seattle, 648 00:32:00,467 --> 00:32:03,227 and that they had this bail bond company, 649 00:32:03,233 --> 00:32:06,073 so I went to the bail bonds place, 650 00:32:06,066 --> 00:32:09,096 and I sat right across the desk from Renee, 651 00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:11,070 and we started off by telling Renee 652 00:32:11,066 --> 00:32:13,566 that her brother has gotten into some trouble 653 00:32:13,567 --> 00:32:16,097 and we want to talk to her about that. 654 00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,500 We told Renee that we were investigating the murder 655 00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:20,370 of somebody from Alaska, 656 00:32:20,367 --> 00:32:23,367 and I asked her if she knew who I was talking about. 657 00:32:23,367 --> 00:32:25,697 And she says, "Well, I believe so." 658 00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:28,170 She says, "My brother killed his wife 659 00:32:28,166 --> 00:32:31,096 up in Alaska back in 1978." 660 00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:32,770 And I told her, "I'm aware of that, 661 00:32:32,767 --> 00:32:35,767 but we're investigating the murder of somebody else." 662 00:32:35,767 --> 00:32:40,367 It is my belief that Renee is culpable in this murder 663 00:32:40,367 --> 00:32:45,067 and that she was involved in asking her brother 664 00:32:45,066 --> 00:32:49,526 to do this or helping her brother do this. 665 00:32:49,533 --> 00:32:52,673 Gypsy: I believe Renee manipulated Nick 666 00:32:52,667 --> 00:32:54,197 into doing her dirty work 667 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,200 because he loved his sister, 668 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,270 wanted to protect her, 669 00:32:58,266 --> 00:33:00,666 and would do anything for her. 670 00:33:00,667 --> 00:33:03,327 Det. Benson: Nicholas adamantly denied that 671 00:33:03,333 --> 00:33:05,473 and said that she was in Hawaii at the time 672 00:33:05,467 --> 00:33:08,627 and that it was just him and his mother 673 00:33:08,633 --> 00:33:10,773 that were there at the time. 674 00:33:10,767 --> 00:33:12,497 But I believe that Renee was there, 675 00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:14,530 and we're now going into an interview 676 00:33:14,533 --> 00:33:15,773 where the only way we're going to learn that 677 00:33:15,767 --> 00:33:18,027 is if she tells us that. 678 00:33:18,033 --> 00:33:22,703 ( on recording ) Okay, Renee, we are conducting an investigation 679 00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:25,370 into the death of Joseph Tarricone. 680 00:33:25,367 --> 00:33:28,527 We have your brother Nicholas in custody 681 00:33:28,533 --> 00:33:32,033 for killing Joseph. 682 00:33:32,033 --> 00:33:34,273 She just gasped. 683 00:33:34,266 --> 00:33:37,566 She sat frozen for probably 30 seconds. 684 00:33:37,567 --> 00:33:39,397 Then she turned beet red, 685 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:43,570 and you can see her heart thumping in her neck, 686 00:33:43,567 --> 00:33:46,527 and she eventually said, 687 00:33:46,533 --> 00:33:50,033 "I know Joseph Tarricone." 688 00:33:50,033 --> 00:33:54,673 And then I told Renee that Nicholas had told us everything, 689 00:33:54,667 --> 00:33:57,227 everything that had happened at her mom's house. 690 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,400 Det. Benson: So did you come home right away? 691 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,070 Tell me what happened when you got home. 692 00:34:28,533 --> 00:34:30,333 Narrator: Without knowing it, 693 00:34:30,333 --> 00:34:33,133 Renee Curtiss had contradicted her brother's story 694 00:34:33,133 --> 00:34:35,133 that she was not at her mother's house 695 00:34:35,133 --> 00:34:37,333 on the night Joe was murdered. 696 00:34:37,333 --> 00:34:40,173 She said, "Well, this is obviously a serious matter. 697 00:34:40,166 --> 00:34:41,596 Do I need to talk to an attorney?" 698 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,430 We said, "That is definitely your right, 699 00:34:45,433 --> 00:34:47,033 and if you want to talk to an attorney, 700 00:34:47,033 --> 00:34:48,373 you should do that, 701 00:34:48,367 --> 00:34:50,367 but let me just say this: 702 00:34:50,367 --> 00:34:52,227 rendering criminal assistance, 703 00:34:52,233 --> 00:34:55,503 which is what we believe you probably did, 704 00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:57,500 has a statute of limitations on it, 705 00:34:57,500 --> 00:34:59,730 and that expired a long time ago. 706 00:34:59,734 --> 00:35:03,304 We can't arrest you for what you did 707 00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:06,370 to help Nicholas after he killed Joseph, 708 00:35:06,367 --> 00:35:10,697 but we still want to know what happened. 709 00:35:10,700 --> 00:35:14,230 Narrator: Detectives were setting a very subtle trap. 710 00:35:14,233 --> 00:35:18,203 What we told her at the initial part of the interview was entirely true. 711 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,600 We could not arrest her for rendering criminal assistance. 712 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,000 We could not arrest her for helping chop up the body. 713 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,130 Narrator: However, detectives could still arrest her 714 00:35:26,133 --> 00:35:28,533 if she admitted to ordering Joe's murder. 715 00:35:28,533 --> 00:35:32,133 That would indicate that Renee was an active participant 716 00:35:32,133 --> 00:35:35,533 in the killing, making her an accomplice to murder. 717 00:35:35,533 --> 00:35:39,103 For that, there is no statute of limitations. 718 00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:43,530 Unaware, Renee continued to disclose details to Detective Benson. 719 00:35:43,533 --> 00:35:47,073 Det. Benson: Describe for me what Joe looked liked 720 00:35:47,066 --> 00:35:50,096 when you looked in there and saw him. 721 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,370 Okay, so what happened 722 00:35:56,367 --> 00:35:59,127 after they took you down and showed you Joe? 723 00:36:03,767 --> 00:36:06,227 And who was in on that conversation? 724 00:36:08,567 --> 00:36:10,297 Tell me about the conversation 725 00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:12,630 with your mom and Nick about what had happened. 726 00:36:15,633 --> 00:36:18,433 And what did you talk about regarding that? 727 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,570 Okay, and where did you decide to bury him? 728 00:36:29,567 --> 00:36:31,397 Who dug the holes in the back yard? 729 00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:34,630 Prior to that, 730 00:36:34,633 --> 00:36:36,773 you and Nicolas went somewhere together, 731 00:36:36,767 --> 00:36:39,067 and where did you and Nicholas go together? 732 00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:46,500 Do you remember what kind of saw it was? 733 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,530 What did you do after you got the chainsaw? 734 00:36:51,533 --> 00:36:55,433 Okay, and what specifically was the chainsaw used for? 735 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,570 Okay, specifically what part of the body was dismembered? 736 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,070 Did you cut his head off as well? 737 00:37:07,066 --> 00:37:09,166 ( whispering ) 738 00:37:12,133 --> 00:37:14,303 How much of a mess did this make 739 00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:16,670 when you guys were cutting him up? 740 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,000 Narrator: The longer Renee spoke to detectives, 741 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,030 the more comfortable she became. 742 00:37:24,033 --> 00:37:26,333 She freely admitted to helping her brother 743 00:37:26,333 --> 00:37:29,433 cover up the murder he committed, 744 00:37:29,433 --> 00:37:33,373 but would she be as forthcoming about who put him up to it? 745 00:37:33,367 --> 00:37:37,097 She told us that she had conversations with Nicholas 746 00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:40,570 about the problem she was having with Joe. 747 00:37:40,567 --> 00:37:43,567 She asked Nicholas to come down here 748 00:37:43,567 --> 00:37:48,227 to Seattle and take care of Joe. 749 00:37:48,233 --> 00:37:51,433 When you're talking to somebody that you know just committed a murder, 750 00:37:51,433 --> 00:37:55,203 and now you ask them to come down here and "take care of" somebody, 751 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,170 what are you asking them to do? 752 00:37:58,166 --> 00:38:01,696 We believed that she put her brother up to that murder, 753 00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:04,130 which made her an accomplice to murder. 754 00:38:17,433 --> 00:38:17,633 Narrator: 755 00:38:17,633 --> 00:38:18,133 Narrator: In 2008, Renee Curtiss 756 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,530 made a shocking confession. 757 00:38:21,533 --> 00:38:24,503 She admitted to Seattle Detective Ben Benson 758 00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:26,330 that in 1978, 759 00:38:26,333 --> 00:38:28,533 she called her brother to come to Seattle 760 00:38:28,533 --> 00:38:30,233 to kill her former boyfriend, 761 00:38:30,233 --> 00:38:32,403 Joe Tarricone. 762 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,500 When we told Renee that she was under arrest, 763 00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:36,670 for the murder of Joseph Tarricone, 764 00:38:36,667 --> 00:38:38,997 she took it in stride. 765 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,530 Renee, is there anything else you can think of? 766 00:38:41,533 --> 00:38:42,633 Renee: No. 767 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,270 Det. Benson: She stood up and she put her hands behind her back 768 00:38:49,266 --> 00:38:51,996 and we handcuffed her and walked her out of the bail bonds office. 769 00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:56,030 Narrator: It was clear that Renee 770 00:38:56,033 --> 00:38:58,433 had chosen to end the relationship with Joe 771 00:38:58,433 --> 00:39:00,273 by murdering him. 772 00:39:00,266 --> 00:39:03,426 I knew already that she killed my father, 773 00:39:03,433 --> 00:39:06,173 but I just find it amazing 774 00:39:06,166 --> 00:39:08,426 that a woman would do that. 775 00:39:08,433 --> 00:39:11,673 This man gave you money, 776 00:39:11,667 --> 00:39:14,027 lavished you with jewelry, 777 00:39:14,033 --> 00:39:15,433 paid your rent, 778 00:39:15,433 --> 00:39:18,533 and this is what you do to him in the end. 779 00:39:18,533 --> 00:39:22,173 She is sick. 780 00:39:22,166 --> 00:39:25,396 The judge set Renee Curtiss's bail at $500,000, 781 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,700 and for Nicholas Notaro, 782 00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:29,130 2 million, cash only. 783 00:39:29,133 --> 00:39:30,703 Meantime, the Tarricone family 784 00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:32,430 will watch this brother and sister 785 00:39:32,433 --> 00:39:33,333 go through the court system. 786 00:39:37,066 --> 00:39:39,026 Narrator: District Attorney Dawn Farina 787 00:39:39,033 --> 00:39:40,733 was in charge of the prosecution 788 00:39:40,734 --> 00:39:44,734 to bring justice to Joe Tarricone and his family. 789 00:39:44,734 --> 00:39:48,334 Nicholas Notaro and Renee Curtiss 790 00:39:48,333 --> 00:39:52,033 chose to have two separate trials. 791 00:39:52,033 --> 00:39:54,073 Mr. Notaro went first, 792 00:39:54,066 --> 00:39:55,696 He was willing, early on, 793 00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:57,600 to plead guilty to the murder 794 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,200 and take the fall 795 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,570 if we agreed to dismiss our case 796 00:40:01,567 --> 00:40:03,597 against Renee Curtiss. 797 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,430 That was just simply not going to happen. 798 00:40:07,433 --> 00:40:09,603 Narrator: In February of 2009, 799 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,570 Nick Notaro stood trial for murder. 800 00:40:12,567 --> 00:40:14,327 Farina: Your Honor, this is matter of the State of Washington 801 00:40:14,333 --> 00:40:17,203 versus Nicholas Louis Notaro. 802 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,100 I was a little surprised the first time I saw Nick. 803 00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:20,630 He was this old guy. 804 00:40:20,633 --> 00:40:22,503 It was hard to imagine him 805 00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:24,770 doing what had been done. 806 00:40:24,767 --> 00:40:26,767 Narrator: After waiting 30 years 807 00:40:26,767 --> 00:40:29,497 to find out the truth behind their father's disappearance, 808 00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:31,370 the Tarricone family members 809 00:40:31,367 --> 00:40:34,297 didn't miss a day of the trial. 810 00:40:34,300 --> 00:40:37,230 It's the not knowing will, not drive you crazy, 811 00:40:37,233 --> 00:40:39,633 but, you know, it's-- you don't ever get any closure, 812 00:40:39,633 --> 00:40:41,603 so now we will have closure 813 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,500 when this is over. 814 00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:45,330 Narrator: On February 24th, 815 00:40:45,333 --> 00:40:48,103 the jury returned with a verdict. 816 00:40:48,100 --> 00:40:51,070 Woman: We the jury find the defendant Nicholas Notaro 817 00:40:51,066 --> 00:40:54,066 guilty in the crime of murder in the first degree. 818 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,130 Shen: Renee ended up taking the stand in her own defense 819 00:41:00,133 --> 00:41:02,533 in her trial, and it didn't go well. 820 00:41:02,533 --> 00:41:06,133 ( reporting ) In court she constantly tried to hide from the camera, 821 00:41:06,133 --> 00:41:10,533 never said she was sorry, and showed zero remorse. 822 00:41:10,533 --> 00:41:12,673 This was a senseless murder. 823 00:41:12,667 --> 00:41:16,397 It wasn't enough that they shot him in the back of the head, 824 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,530 but then she had to go get a chainsaw 825 00:41:19,533 --> 00:41:21,103 and dismember him. 826 00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:23,100 Miss Curtiss, along with her brother, 827 00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:27,530 chopped up Mr. Tarricone's body. 828 00:41:27,533 --> 00:41:30,273 Narrator: After painfully reliving the gruesome details 829 00:41:30,266 --> 00:41:31,996 of her father's murder, 830 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,100 Gypsy Tarricone and her family 831 00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:36,400 finally received justice. 832 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,100 Farina: Both Nicholas Notaro and Renee Curtiss 833 00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:42,400 were found guilty of murder in the first degree 834 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,530 and sentenced 40 years to life. 835 00:41:45,533 --> 00:41:48,133 They both will die in prison. 836 00:41:48,133 --> 00:41:50,003 It's truly appalling, 837 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,430 in terms of believing that she is a human being. 838 00:41:53,433 --> 00:41:56,033 ( no audible dialogue ) 839 00:41:56,033 --> 00:41:58,703 I worked homicide investigations for over 20 years, 840 00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:01,030 and you just see it over and over again. 841 00:42:01,033 --> 00:42:03,303 There's people that have no regard for human life, 842 00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:06,300 and these were some of those people. 843 00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:09,430 Helping to cut arms and legs and a head off 844 00:42:09,433 --> 00:42:14,433 of somebody that she had had a previous romantic relationship with. 845 00:42:14,433 --> 00:42:16,003 I don't know how you get there, 846 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,300 as a human being. 847 00:42:18,300 --> 00:42:22,700 I don't know how they could be so evil. 848 00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:25,700 It's something when you have one family member, 849 00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:31,200 but you've got a brother, a sister, and a mother? 850 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,300 It was probably the most interesting case of my career 851 00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:37,030 and one of the most satisfying cases, 852 00:42:37,033 --> 00:42:40,333 the fact that people waited 30 years to get justice, 853 00:42:40,333 --> 00:42:42,073 and that people didn't give up. 854 00:42:42,066 --> 00:42:43,426 They never gave up. 855 00:42:43,433 --> 00:42:45,733 They wanted justice for their dad 856 00:42:45,734 --> 00:42:49,734 and they weren't gonna stop thinking about that 857 00:42:49,734 --> 00:42:53,074 until they got it. 858 00:42:53,066 --> 00:42:57,726 I just want people to know that my dad had instilled in us 859 00:42:57,734 --> 00:42:59,734 hard work, family values, 860 00:42:59,734 --> 00:43:03,374 stick together, take care of each other. 861 00:43:03,367 --> 00:43:05,097 I just wish he would've been there 862 00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:06,500 at least to meet the grandkids 863 00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:08,230 and meet our spouses, you know? 864 00:43:08,233 --> 00:43:11,503 And he missed out on all that. 865 00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:15,070 I've been a TV news reporter for 25 years now, 866 00:43:15,066 --> 00:43:16,766 and when I look back 867 00:43:16,767 --> 00:43:18,627 on cases I've covered, 868 00:43:18,633 --> 00:43:20,333 this one stands out for me. 869 00:43:20,333 --> 00:43:23,233 It was a 30-year-old tale of secrets and lies 870 00:43:23,233 --> 00:43:24,603 buried in the backyard. 63695

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