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Carole Gold was really a pioneer, being one of the first Playboy Bunnies.

A Bunny in the 1960s made great money...

...and we were like rockstars.

Playboy can give you the taste of the high life...

...but that doesn't last forever.

She just blew through all the money and one day woke up

and realized there was nothing left.

Chuck said to Carole that if she didn't back him up,

he was gonna divorce her.

She says she knew she was paying $75 a month into something,

but didn't really know what.

[Pat LaLama] Just a few minutes

into his conversation with detectives,

he realizes, "Oh, wait a minute.

This is about a murder."

That was the beginning of my worst nightmare.

[Briana Whitney] Police get a call over the radio.

A woman had called 911 saying her husband had been shot.

So they rush over.

They get there.

51-year-old Chuck Gold was found dead and murdered inside his home.

We have an apparent homicide.

Mr. Gold expired from multiple gunshot wounds.

We were told he'd been discovered by his wife, Carole.

Carole Gold was 53 years old when her husband, Chuck, was found brutally murdered.

It's a dramatic turn in the life of woman who

just decades ago was on a very different path...

...working as a Playboy Bunny...

...experiencing this glamorous lifestyle,

and making more money than she ever thought possible.

Carole was involved with the Playboy company

at a very early stage in the early 60s.

Back then, the magazine looked very homemade,

cut and paste. It wasn't, like, the glossy,

lavish thing that people saw in decades later.

Hef started Playboy when he was 27 years old.

He started HMH Publishing at the same time.

HMH Publishing is his initials, Hugh Marston Hefner,

and he just started that publishing company to do Playboy.

The first issue came out in December of 1953.

He didn't put a volume number on the first issue,

because he wasn't sure if there'd be a second one.

The first nude pictorial inPlayboy

was a photo of Marilyn Monroe,

and that feature would go on to become the centerfold feature.

There really wasn't anything likePlayboy at the time.

There were nude magazines, but they were all pretty down scale.

So, he wanted to do something different.

ThePlayboy lifestyle was supposed to be

an aspirational, upscale, men's kind of fantasy lifestyle.

[Whitney] Carole was from Chicago,

and in 1955, she was model in her teenage years.

She did a lot of magazines and commercials and things like that.

And so, that's kind of how her life started in the public eye.

And when Carole was only 15 years old,

she had a friend who worked nearby HMH Publishing.

And her friend thought, "Hey, Carole, maybe you can get a job there."

[Mitzi] Carole was in a Catholic school,

And the Catholic priest had to prove anybody

that wanted to work a job outside of school,

and he approved it because it was just a publishing company.

He didn't understand that HMH meant Hugh M. Hefner.

[Whitney] Carole meets with an executive

who really, really liked her at the time,

and he hires her on the spot.

[Madison] The very first Playboy Club

opened in Chicago on February 29, in 1960.

It was an upscale place for men to go.

It was a private club.

You know, you could have lunch or dinner

and see great entertainment.

And of course the women were wearing

the Bunny costume, which became very famous.

The Playboy Bunnies were the hostesses and waitresses

that worked at the Playboy Club,

and they wore the very famous skimpy outfit...

...which is basically just a corset with tights.

The Bunny costume was based on the Playboymascot, which is a rabbit.

When Hef first started the magazine,

he decided on the rabbit as a symbol and a logo

because rabbits are very playful animals and they have a lot of sex.

This is my Playboy Bunny picture.

This is from Chicago.

That was a really great job.

Definition of a Bunny in the 1960s

was the girl next store, but somebody that was sexy and beautiful.

A Bunny in the 1960s made great money...

...and we were like rockstars.

The money we made definitely was life-changing.

In Chicago, we made more money.

There was more celebrities that came to the Chicago club.

We met everybody and usually would have 'em sign our cuffs.

[Madison] Carole started off as a switchboard operator

in Playboy'sfirst offices.

[Diana] They used Carole as a fit Bunny

in order to design the original costume

that the girls wore in the 1960s when the club opened.

And then she became a Bunny after that.

She was really a pioneer, being one of the first Bunnies.

This would have been a very unique experience for anyone,

but for somebody who was coming from a Catholic school background,

that just must have been something completely different

because at the time, there was nothing like the Playboy Club.

[Mitzi] Carole helped supervise other bunnies and private parties.

And she was always kind.

She was easy to work for.

And if you stepped off line, she told you.

She was supervising a get together.

Frank Sinatra and some of his friends were there.

And Mr. Sinatra asked her, "Well, who are you?"

And she said, "May I get you something?"

And he goes, "Well, no, I just want to know you are. You can sit and talk to me."

And said, "Mr. Sinatra, I'd absolutely love to,

and I think you're amazing,

but I have to take care of everything here."

[Madison] The club was definitely an introduction to the good life for Carole,

and showed her what was possible, you know,

you have all these wealthy clients coming in.

I think Carole probably got used to the money and the lifestyle.

It's a very easy thing to get used to

and, like, want for the rest of your life.

While Carole was working as a Playboy Bunny,

she also put herself through School.

She became a teacher

and taught eighth grade at a Catholic school.

It's so crazy that she was a Catholic school teacher

by day and a Playboy Bunny at night.

During this time, she met an engineering student

named Kenny Cottini and they got married.

Carole's at the Playboy Club for five years

before she and Kenny end up moving to Lake Geneva, Wisconsin,

where they work at horse stables.

That's when tragedy struck.

Kenny died shortly after a riding accident.

I believe he was running barrels at a horse show...

...and he slipped. He fell out of his saddle

and never regained consciousness.

[Whitney] Kenny's passing not only left Carole as a widow,

but she was taking care of their daughter

and their newborn son, who was born in that same year.

Carole was busy working at the stable

and raising to two kids when she reconnected

with a childhood friend, Chuck Gold.

Like Carole, Chuck also had two kids.

[Stephanie] My relationship with my dad in my earlier years was...

...sporadic.

Um, my parents were divorced before I was two, they were separated.

My mother and I lived with her parents, my grandparents.

[Whitney] Chuck and Carole start dating.

And that was in 1977.

About a year later, they were off to Las Vegas to get married.

She used her Playboy connections to get them set up

at the Lake Geneva Playboy resort.

The Lake Geneva Playboy Resort

was the very first Playboy Resort.

An off-shoot of the Playboy Club,

kind of a bigger, better experience.

And it was a very modern establishment.

They had ski trails. They had golf courses. They had stables.

It was just this amazing, huge retreat.

Carole loved horses, and she and Chuck

went on to open their own stable

at the Playboy Club, Lake Geneva.

It was a huge deal. I mean, if you're gonna run a horse stable,

what better place than at a luxury resort

with all these wealthy customers?

[Stephanie] Carole was very good for my father.

They had a really great dynamic.

They worked well together.

They would ride together, they would do all kinds of things together.

By the summer of '82, my father and Carole

knew that they were gonna leave Lake Geneva.

The main reason for the move was the winters were just

too much for everybody,

and they had decided that Arizona was where they wanted to be.

[Madison] Carole and Chuck moved to Arizona with Carole's children,

Her daughter, Alison, and her son, Ashton.

The family settled into running the stables

at Point Hilton Resort at Tapatio Cliffs.

Chuck Gold had a business where they would do gunfight re-enactments

at, um, some of the high-end hotels

here in the valley at the time.

He was known to a lot of people as Black Bart.

The original Black Bart was, uh, a gunslinger from, like, the 1880s.

[Stephanie] My dad is the personality.

My dad would bring people in.

And he'd be dressed as Black Bart,

and people would just get a kick out of it.

And Carole was the person responsible for all of the,

the accounting and paying the bills

and doing all of that stuff. That was Carole's role.

[Mitzi] By 1992, cashflow was not an issue at that stable.

They had a going business.

And that was without Chuck.

And I can imagine when you add in

the gunfight shows and the things that he did...

...they were doing quite well.

They have this idyllic lifestyle.

You know, it could have been a fairy tale life.

But it all changed on the night of October 20th.

[gunshots]

[Stephanie] Dad and Carole were married in December of '78.

They would have been married 14 years in December of '92,

when he was killed.

On October 20, 1992,

Carole Gold had been at dinner with her daughter, Alison.

And from there, they ended up going back to Alison's house,

where they watched some movies.

[Petrosino] Chuck Gold was supposed to be at a conference,

and at some point, he had called

and said that he was on his way home.

And then Carole decided to go home.

And when she came home around 10:30,

she walked into their house and found Chuck

shot dead in their kitchen.

That's when she called 911.

[phone ringing]

[Stephanie] Got a phone call,

and it was Richard Feingold on the other end of the call.

Richard was my dad's friend.

He goes...

..."Your dad's dead."

And I made him repeat it three times.

And I went...

..."I don't understand."

And he said, "Your dad was shot tonight...

...and that's all I know."

And I just...

...lost it.

That was the beginning of my worst nightmare.

[Whitney] Chuck Gold was bleeding from the head,

with eight .22 caliber bullet casings surrounding his body.

I was assigned the crime scene.

The scene is processed.

The front door was locked.

There was no sign of a break-in.

I walked around and looked at different things,

and I discovered that one of the back doors is unlocked.

The back door should be locked, and it's not.

Your first thought is is that, "Well, maybe it's a burglary gone bad."

If that's the case, you'll normally see things disturbed.

But none of that appeared to be the case.

[Whitney] The lead detective pulls Carole outside,

starts kind of asking her about everything.

Carole tells detectives that they had a really good relationship,

that things were going well for them.

[Petrosino] Carole indicated that in the past,

Chuck had engaged in extra-marital contact.

But that they had gotten past it.

[Madison] It must have been really difficult for Carole

because she was, you know, a Playboy Bunny.

She was one of the people to usher in the Sexual Revolution,

and then to be married later in life

and your partner's unfaithful, it must have been hard.

Detectives went on their search for information,

by going and talking to everybody that

would have had some knowledge of what was going on

in the Gold household...

...or the business.

One of the first people the detectives reach out to

is Chuck's close friend, Richard Feingold.

[Petrosino] Mr. Feingold, uh, indicated that

Chuck could be hard to get along with,

and he might have a lot of enemies.

[Whitney] Richard also tells the detective

that a number of years ago,

Chuck had been in a relationship

with a woman who worked at the horse stables named Linda.

And the two were very happy together.

The story was is that Chuck was going to divorce Carole...

...and live with or marry Linda

when the divorce was final.

There's information that Linda lived in the house

at some period of time.

But for whatever reason, Chuck ended the relationship.

[Stephanie] This was around October of '91.

I knew that my father had affairs.

I knew that Carole knew about 'em.

I believe Carole had affairs,

and I'm sure that my father knew about 'em.

I don't necessarily know that I would call it unfaithful...

...because I think they knew,

'cause that was just their dynamic.

[Whitney] Detectives go on to interview other employees

at the horse stables and one them has a story

that Carole had a 14-year-old grandson named Ronnie.

That was Alison's son.

And at some point, Ronnie was staying with Chuck and Carole

because Carole's daughter, Alison, was out of town.

[Petrosino] Chuck expected Ronnie to do work at the stables.

[Whitney] Ronnie didn't want to.

He wanted to go hang out with his girlfriend.

He had no plans of going to the stables

[Petrosino] He allegedly told Chuck, "Well,

I'm gonna be at my girlfriend's house."

And Chuck said, "Get to the stables."

He didn't get there.

[Whitney] And that made Chuck really angry.

And Chuck went off...

...and he told him that he wanted him gone.

He didn't want Ronnie at the house anymore.

Stable hands at the resort said they saw Chuck and Ronnie

arguing loudly over the incident.

As a result, Ronnie ran away.

And this all took place just a week before Chuck's murder.

[Petrosino] There's some information that Carole Gold's grandson, Ronnie,

had had prior run-ins or contacts with the police department.

[Whitney] Ronnie was known for having a bit of a temper.

Ultimately, investigators find out that Ronnie

was with his girlfriend at the time that Chuck was murdered.

He was at school the next day,

and he didn't even know that Chuck was killed

until he was pulled out of school.

Detectives also learn that in the weeks leading up to

Chuck Gold's murder, he was in a real duke out

with another guy, and that happens to be Ashton, Carole's son.

[Stephanie] Ashton was 20 and lived with my dad and Carole.

He was always very quiet.

I think he was also very resentful

because he resented having to do any of the work at the stables.

We found out that Ashton, uh, had a history of abusing, uh, hard drugs.

Ashton apparently got hooked on an opioid...

...and owed people money for, for drugs that he allegedly bought.

Ashton was addicted to a drug called Nubain.

And he was taking it, I guess, to work out.

And it was some sort of steroid that helped him pump up.

And Dad told me that Ashton had got caught

smoking weed at the stables.

I think that was the final straw for my dad

and really pissed him off.

He was livid because it was their livelihood.

And marijuana wasn't legal then.

So, the though that they could've lost

their contract with the resort

was first and forefront in his mind.

One of my last conversations with my dad,

we talked about Ashton

and that things were getting complicated,

and that he didn't know how much longer

it was gonna be able to stay the way things were.

[Whitney] Chuck had reached his breaking point with Ashton

and decided it would be best if he just kicked him out of the house.

Knowing this information that Ashton and Chuck

had had this big disagreement,

detectives go and question Ashton,

who tells them that they had smoothed things over.

It wasn't that big of a deal, everything was fine.

[Petrosino] Ashton had an alibi for that night.

He was with his girlfriend somewhere in public.

And there were other people that verified it.

[telephone ringing]

[Petrosino] But detectives get a call from a family member

who said that Ashton was out looking at new Cadillacs.

And, uh, the family member found something wrong with that.

Chuck has been dead two weeks, and now,

Carole's son is out there looking at new cars.

So, two weeks after the murder,

on November 5th of '92,

the detective goes back and questions Carole.

When detectives brought up Ashton

and supposedly, this fight,

she talked about the fact

that Ashton had been abusing some drugs.

Chuck said to Carole that if she didn't back him up

and get rid of Ashton from the house...

...he was gonna divorce her.

But she believed that

Ashton and Chuck

had worked out whatever upset him

and that everything was good between Ashton and Chuck.

When asked about owing people money for drugs,

Carole said that they discovered

that he owed about $1,200 to somebody.

And they just decided to pay it for him.

And, uh, it was supposed to be the end of it.

At some point during the investigation

detectives get a call from the insurance company,

which is not uncommon.

Insurance companies will often call investigators

on questionable deaths.

And their question is,

"Is anybody in the family involved?

Because there's this $150,000,

uh, accidental death insurance."

[Schmidt] I can't imagine Carole wanting...

...him dead for money, for the simple fact that

he was the one who helped make the money.

It doesn't make sense.

[Gold] One of the stories that Carole had told me

was when her husband Kenny died,

there was money, and...

...that she just kinda blew through all the money,

and she just one day woke up and realized...

...there was nothing left.

So she pretty much had to start over.

[Holly] A lot of Bunnies talk about how the job

paid so much more just from tips,

than they would've made at any other job that

would've been available to them in the early '60s.

I think it would've been really difficult for someone like Carole,

who at such a young age,

had such financial freedom.

And that's a very hard lifestyle to transition out of.

[Gold] When I went to Phoenix after the funeral,

I looked at Ashton...

...and at that moment, I realized that Ashton was wearing...

...a ring and a bracelet that were my grandfather's.

So I walked over to Carole and I went,

"I noticed that Ashton was wearing Grandpa's ring."

And she looked at me and she said,

"Well, yeah, Dad said he could have them."

And I said, "You're mistaken.

Because Dad and I talked about it last time I was here...

...that whatever was Grandpa's would go to me.

So he would never have let Ashton wear Grandpa's ring and bracelet."

"Well, Stephy, he did."

"Well, no, Carole, he didn't."

I think that's the first time

I really thought about it, and really...

...went, "Oh, my God.

Are they both involved?"

[reading] "Who are you? It does not take long

before the answer to that question becomes complex.

When I was 25, I could answer that

my name is Carole, or Ms. Cottini.

I am the eighth grade teacher.

Or, 'Good evening, I'm your Bunny, Carole.'

Can you imagine my eighth graders telling their parents

that their teacher was a Playboy Bunny?

Neither could I."

[Whitney] The detective ends up confronting Carole

about that accidental death policy,

something that she hadn't talked about at all

in that first interview.

And she says to the detective that

she didn't know about it until after Chuck died,

that Chuck was the one who organized this.

She knew she was paying $75 a month into something,

but didn't really know what, and that's what that was.

[Petrosino] Every time detectives find something that

undermines what she said before,

she has to modify her story.

And she does that.

The one thing about doing police investigations

is that if you get somebody that's telling you the truth,

it doesn't change.

But there isn't anything that

detectives found at that point

that shows that...

...Carole actually did it.

In early November,

detectives went back and made a second

contact with Ashton.

It's possible that that drug problem

is connected to the murder.

[Whitney] The detective comes up with this plan

to confront Ashton,

and kind of makes up the fact that he knows

a drug dealer that Ashton knows

is involved in this murder.

He doesn't actually know that for sure,

but he thinks if he brings that up to Ashton,

he might get more information out of him.

[Petrosino] The trouble with lying to suspects

or investigative leads

is that if you guess wrong,

then they know you're just fishing.

[Whitney] The detective says,

"You know, it'd be really helpful

if you could give us a name of any of these drug dealers

that you're associated with or have worked with."

[Petrosino] And Ashton panicked a little bit.

And then he gives up...

...Bob Pryor.

[Gold] Bob Pryor was Ashton's drug dealer.

And that's where he got his Nubain from.

Bob was also a physical trainer at a gym,

which Ashton joined.

[Petrosino] Bob Pryor is one of those guys

that if you work certain assignments,

his name probably would've come up.

He would've been known to the Phoenix police department.

The detectives are very familiar with Bob Pryor and his rap sheet.

They have an informant who knows about Bob Pryor.

[Petrosino] September of 1993,

the detective is able to get in contact

with Dan Goddard, who is, who is the CI.

A CI is confidential informant.

[Whitney] The detective asks Goddard

if he knows Ashton.

And Goddard tells the officer

he had met Ashton once.

And there was a conversation relayed to Dan Goddard

that Ashton had told Pryor

that he hated his stepdad so much,

he was willing to pay to get him killed.

[gunshots]

[Whitney] The detective asks Goddard

if he knows where Bob Pryor was

on October 20th, 1992.

And Goddard says, "Yeah, I was with him."

Goddard was driving Bob Pryor around,

and he tells the detective they stopped at a gas station,

which was conveniently right around the corner from the Gold's house.

[Petrosino] He said that Pryor was wearing a heavy jacket...

...he's got a gun.

Um, Mr. Goddard talked about, uh, it being a,

a small-caliber pistol or gun,

uh, probably a .22.

And he talks about a silencer.

[Whitney] Bob Pryor got out of the car

with a .22 caliber gun under his jacket.

That gun matches the casings

that were found around Chuck Gold's body.

Dan Goddard tells the detective

Bob Pryor disappeared for a period of time

and he didn't know where he went.

And suddenly, Bob Pryor and Ashton

moved from investigative lead

to the suspect column

on your police report.

[LaLama] When detectives start looking into Bob Pryor,

they find out in an unrelated case,

police took $9,000 in cash

and a bunch of weapons from his house.

Bob Pryor had been complaining that he wants that stuff back,

so this is the perfect ruse

to get him into the police department.

[Petrosino] The decision was, give him a call,

tell him we're giving him his guns back,

uh, just have him come on down, and...

He came down, he didn't get his guns back.

But, uh, he did get interviewed by detectives.

[LaLama] In just a few minutes

into his conversation with detectives,

he realizes, "Oh, wait a minute.

This is about a murder."

Now that detectives have the attention of Bob Pryor,

it's their chance to say to him,

"So, uh, Bob, just how much

were you paid to carry out a hit on Chuck Gold?"

[Whitney] And eventually, he starts to crack.

Bob Pryor tells them it was $9,000,

and the police had seized that when they took his guns and drugs.

Bob pretty much gives himself up almost immediately,

and admits he was involved in this plan,

but he's got a lot more to tell to detectives

when he says Carole Gold

was really the mastermind.

Carole Gold had it all when she was a Playboy Bunny, and she lost that.

She has this thriving business with Chuck,

and there was probably the fear of losing that, too.

She wasn't gonna go through losing it all again.

Faced with the threat of Chuck divorcing her,

Carole was probably scared and angry.

[Petrosino] During his interview with detectives,

Bob Pryor gave some statements

that implicated Carole and Ashton

as being the people that had hired him

for, for $9,000

to kill Mr. Gold.

He'd also implicated them

in a prior separate murder attempt on Chuck,

where Carole and Ashton

put rat poison in his dinner.

But he didn't die.

He didn't like the way that it tasted

and threw it away.

[Whitney] With this new information,

the detective heads back over to the horse stables

and arrests both Ashton and Carole

for murder, and conspiracy

to commit murder on Chuck Gold.

[LaLama] Detectives bring Carole back in,

they've got more questions for her.

This time, she clams up.

Carole wants a lawyer.

[Petrosino] Carole's released.

There was no physical tie

to Carole.

But they charged Ashton and Pryor

with conspiracy to commit first-degree murder

and first-degree murder.

[Whitney] After Carole was released, the detective goes

to talk to John and Sharon Novoselski,

who were good friends of Carole and Chuck's.

He had talked to them before, but he wanted to go back

just to see if he could find out

any other information that could help.

The Novoselskis end up giving the detective

a piece of information

that gets him one step closer to solving the case.

[Petrosino] John and Sharon indicated that

it was a really, really bad time

in Chuck and Carole's marriage.

[Whitney] But probably the biggest piece of information

they tell the detective

is that they know Chuck did not know

about any kind of insurance policy.

[Petrosino] Chuck had been denied insurance,

I'm assuming life insurance,

because of health issues.

The detective was able to obtain

handwriting samples for Chuck

and other family members.

But the handwriting analysts

told him that, uh, Chuck did not sign

the application for the insurance.

And that, in fact, his signature

was done by Carole.

The application was fraudulent.

[Gold] And I later found out that

Carole hired an attorney

to get the money, and the police were trying

to not release the money,

because they still hadn't

cleared her from being a suspect.

But they didn't have enough to hold the insurance company from not paying it.

[Whitney] In December of 1994, the trial starts

for Ashton and Bob Pryor.

But it's a deadlocked jury in the end,

and eventually it's declared a mistrial in 1995.

[Schmidt] They got a hung jury, and that's probably

because they couldn't connect the dots.

If I was having trouble with sitting in the gallery,

I'm sure the jury was, too.

[LaLama] Not long after Bob's mistrial,

he manages to get himself into big trouble

on unrelated charges, federal charges,

having to do with drug distribution, so,

what he decides to do is plead down his sentence

by promising to testify in future trials

against Ashton and his mom Carole.

[Petrosino] In 1995 on 2nd of August,

Ashton and Carole are re-arrested

for murder and conspiracy of Chuck.

[LaLama] I've covered so many

of these murder-for-hire cases

and it's usually spouse-on-spouse,

and the spouse killers think they're so clever.

But they always make a stupid mistake.

[Petrosino] Document scientists determine that...

...Chuck hadn't filled out the insurance paperwork that Carole had.

Which undermined her story that

she didn't have any information about

the life insurance

or, or how much it was for.

It would be pretty hard to explain that away.

[Whitney] After Carole's second arrest,

the detective is hoping she's going to come forward

with anything more she did the first time.

So they pull her into a room

to interrogate her one more time.

[Petrosino] In the final interview,

Carole makes statements

admitting involvement in the case,

and makes a statement,

"You're on the right track,

but the wrong train."

And she never clarifies what she means by that.

I believe that

they conspired together,

Ashton and Carole,

with a third party that was the trigger man.

[gunshots]

[Gold] On the day that she was arrested in '93,

I never heard from her again.

Not a single person in the family ever heard from her again.

She never called to say, "It's not true.

I'll take care of it. I'll explain it all."

Not once.

There's no betrayal worse than that.

[Petrosino] On August 4th of 1997,

the trial of Ashton and Carole started.

During the course of the trial,

Ashton pleads guilty to conspiracy...

...and is later sentenced to 18 years in prison.

And the trial proceeds against his mother.

At the end of the trial, the jury comes back with...

...guilty on two counts,

conspiracy and murder one.

She's sentence to 25 to life,

with the possibility of receiving parole.

[Whitney] Thanks to the deal that Bob Pryor had cut,

he was only sentenced to 20 years

in a medium-security prison.

I felt my dad got the justice he deserved.

[inhales]

It was tough...

...being in court every day.

The sentencing took place a month later,

where I was able to give my victim impact statement.

I apologized to the judge,

but I told Carole to rot in Hell.

And that's one of the hardest things it's been for me,

because I loved her.

She was part of my family.

And she broke my heart.

[Holly] Carole's ultimate fear was losing her wealth

and losing her share of a thriving business.

Playboy and give you a taste of the high life,

but that doesn't last forever.

And when Carole was afraid she was going to lose

her marriage, her lifestyle, her business,

she was prepared to kill to make sure that didn't happen.