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♪
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[monitor
continues beeping]
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[anzilotti] this is
richard cottingham.
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By all accounts,
he's dying.
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Personally, I think he's
like a cockroach and
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He just lives forever.
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In the world of
serial killers,
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I would rank
richard cottingham
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Up there with the
worst of them.
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[reporter] ...Firemen were
the first to arrive on the
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Scene at about
9:30 this morning.
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Two women were
found decapitated,
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With their hands
cut off as well.
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♪
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It could be up to 100
women that he's killed...
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New jersey,
and beyond.
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He's flown under the
radar all this time...
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Because he's not given up
all of his crimes.
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♪
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After 18 years of time
with this savage...
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I've been able to get a
number of confessions.
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It was a flat-out negotiation.
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He's the king of all deals.
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It's all about, "what
are you gonna do for me?"
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That was a big thing
for him, control.
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♪
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My game with him was to
get him to confess...
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To bring a measure
of peace and
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Closure to the
victims' families.
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Their minds,
over these decades,
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Race with theories and
race with suspects,
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Some of whom were in
their own families.
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They want to know
what happened.
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♪
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Richard cottingham is
responsible for a lot more.
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♪
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I was not done with him.
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You can take all the serial
killers there's ever been.
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There's not been
one like me.
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪
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♪
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In the year 2000,
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I was assigned a
series of cold cases.
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The majority of them were
from 1974 through 1965.
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♪
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When I pulled the cases,
the evidence officer
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Gives me boxes and
boxes and boxes...
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Report after report,
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Lab results after
lab results,
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Crime scene photo after
crime scene photo.
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♪
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I was pretty much the new guy
in the homicide squad and,
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This was an overwhelming
and daunting task...
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For somebody that
was kind of
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Green around the gills.
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What I didn't know when I
first started digging through
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Those files was that it would
ignite a fire inside of me.
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♪
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There were twelve cases.
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There were a number
of girls that were
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Either last seen
hitchhiking...
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Or had been picked up
by a stranger.
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Ultimately, raped
and then murdered,
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Dumped in and around
bergen county.
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Bergen county is situated
in the northern part of
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New jersey, and it is just
across the hudson river
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From new york city.
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♪
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The whole community
was in shock.
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Kids stopped walking
home from school.
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All these girls were
innocent.
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Innocent kids.
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You know, they had a
life ahead of them.
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There were a lot of theories.
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They never found who did it.
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And it went on
for a long time.
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♪
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Everybody was a suspect.
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Even back in the
beginning days...
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The priest of the
church was a suspect.
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♪
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It never seemed
to go anywhere.
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Guy going around killing
girls from bergen county,
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You figure somebody
knew something.
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My life changed immediately.
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I had no more sister.
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My family wanted answers.
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Who, where, when, why?
We had no idea.
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You go from one as
young as 13, and then,
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You know, one as old
as 29 years old.
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They're wildly different
in some aspects
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Of their victimology.
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♪
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At the time, the community of
bergen county is just really
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On edge, and the police
are just all-in trying to
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Figure out if there's
any commonalities
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Between these killings.
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They're not finding any.
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♪
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They had several
main suspects...
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Who may or may not
have been involved.
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♪
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There was a convicted
rapist, raymond alves.
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He claimed he'd
killed 15 women,
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And he was up for parole.
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There was robert reldan,
a former honor student
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Who had been
involved in rapes.
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Another suspect
was joe kallinger,
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Who was known as 'the
shoemaker' for a knife that
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He used in a murder
spree in three states,
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Which ended in
bergen county...
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With the death of a nurse.
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I went through all
these suspects.
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I flew all over the
country following leads.
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And they all went nowhere.
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The one name that I
couldn't eliminate
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Was richard cottingham.
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Richard cottingham
in 1980,
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Had been convicted of
killing five women.
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Three were in
new york city,
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Two were in bergen county.
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Those killings in
times square dubbed him
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'the torso killer' by the
new york media.
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Because several of
the victims had
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Their heads cut off,
their hands cut off,
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And the room lit on fire.
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♪
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He ultimately got caught
in bergen county
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Trying to rape and kill
another woman...
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At a local motel in hasbrouck
heights, new jersey.
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[news] cottingham is being
held in a jail adjacent to
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The bergen county courthouse.
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He was originally charged
with aggravated sexual
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Assault and attempted murder
of a woman thought to be
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A prostitute on may 22nd,
in a jersey motel.
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[anzilotti] of these 12
cold case homicides that
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I'm investigating,
some of them were
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All centered
around this area.
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Cottingham was incarcerated
since his arrest in 1980.
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In the years that followed,
some nypd detectives,
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As well as bergen county
detectives attempted to
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Gain his cooperation in
unsolved murders.
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Unfortunately, it never
materialized into anything.
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♪
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Everything I knew about him
at that point was
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Focused in the late 70s,
up until 1980.
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Had no idea if he could
have been operating
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In the 60s or early 70s.
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But certainly,
it was a possibility
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Just based on his age.
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So, he was always just
lingering in the back of
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My head as like, hey, one day,
I gotta get to this guy
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Cottingham and see if he's
good for any of these.
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♪
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In 2003, I got
promoted to sergeant,
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And that's when I moved on
to the street crimes unit.
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It was known as the special
investigations squad.
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And as a sergeant,
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I was responsible for a
number of detectives.
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We were putting together
really big cases.
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But in between there,
I made sure I always
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Found the time for my
cold case work.
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There was many a
Sunday night
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Where I'd put the
kids to bed and,
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I would take an a to z file
full of reports and
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Crime scene photos...
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And just pour a glass of
wine at my dining room table
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And just...
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Spend hours poring over
the cases and taking notes,
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Just on my own time.
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Doing these cold cases was
not my only job or
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My only assignment,
by any stretch.
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You've got a whole bunch of
cases that you're assigned to.
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You've got other homicides,
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You've got active organized
crime investigations.
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Yet, you had to find time to
work the cold cases
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Because we never,
ever close them.
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Never.
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[anzilotti]
having daughters...
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And then investigating the
rapes and murders of these
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Young girls, as teenagers,
really hit home for me.
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And I wanted to give
these families
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Some sense of justice.
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♪
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I just grew so attached
to these cases.
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I knew them inside and out.
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I had been studying
them for years,
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Kind of on a
part-time basis,
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And got very
passionate about it.
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But I wasn't
making any inroads,
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And that really
just nagged at me.
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I never wanted
to forget them,
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I never wanted to
give up on them.
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♪
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In just researching some
different suspects...
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The name richard cottingham
kept coming up again.
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♪
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I was aware that other
detectives before me had
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Tried to speak to cottingham,
and he never cooperated.
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How am I going to get this
guy cottingham to talk to me?
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♪
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By sheer coincidence,
cottingham was housed in the
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Same prison, on the same
wing with 'the iceman'.
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♪
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Besides these 12 cold cases
involving young females,
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I was also looking
into a number of
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Other cold case homicides...
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Some of which involved
mob-style hits.
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This led me to richard
'the iceman' kuklinski.
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The iceman was at that time
incarcerated for
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A number of homicides
that he had committed
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In and around bergen county.
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He purported himself to
be a hitman for the mob.
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He was very boastful
about his killings,
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And his ties to the mafia.
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It is new jersey, and
we're certainly well-known,
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Especially back then, for our
traditional organized crime.
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The typical la cosa nostra,
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Soprano-style
organized crime cases:
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Loansharking,
illegal gambling,
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Extortion, prostitution.
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Kuklinski got the nickname
'the iceman'
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Because he actually
killed somebody,
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Put them in a freezer to
try and change the body
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Temperature to fool
the medical examiner.
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♪
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Well, he got caught
eventually for it so,
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I don't know how
much it worked, but...
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All these guys think
they're so ----ing smart.
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♪
235
00:12:00,470 --> 00:12:02,095
I spent hundreds
of hours with him.
236
00:12:02,213 --> 00:12:04,480
I'd have him transported
up from the prison.
237
00:12:04,482 --> 00:12:06,825
He'd stay at the
bergen county jail.
238
00:12:06,827 --> 00:12:08,184
Eventually,
I developed a
239
00:12:08,344 --> 00:12:11,212
Relationship with him.
Really good
240
00:12:11,273 --> 00:12:13,547
He began to trust me enough
that I got a number of
241
00:12:13,549 --> 00:12:15,191
Unsolved homicides
out of him.
242
00:12:15,351 --> 00:12:17,051
♪
243
00:12:17,112 --> 00:12:19,946
Rob built such a relationship
with kuklinski that
244
00:12:20,064 --> 00:12:22,874
Kuklinski became
rob's informant...
245
00:12:22,876 --> 00:12:27,119
On anything that kuklinski
could come up with.
246
00:12:27,238 --> 00:12:30,473
I figured this might be a
way to get to cottingham.
247
00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:33,309
One particular interview,
I bring up his name.
248
00:12:33,336 --> 00:12:35,144
And I'm like, "hey, do you
know this guy, cottingham?"
249
00:12:35,172 --> 00:12:38,982
And kuklinski had the most,
just vile reaction,
250
00:12:39,009 --> 00:12:42,302
And he just was like,
"I hate that scumbag."
251
00:12:42,420 --> 00:12:44,012
And he's like,
"what kind of an animal
252
00:12:44,130 --> 00:12:46,097
Does these things to women?"
253
00:12:55,892 --> 00:12:59,352
♪
254
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Richard kuklinski,
known as 'the iceman',
255
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Was housed in
new jersey state prison.
256
00:13:04,234 --> 00:13:07,418
The iceman is probably
one of the most foreboding
257
00:13:07,420 --> 00:13:10,330
Individuals I've ever
seen in my life.
258
00:13:10,448 --> 00:13:12,590
He was like 6"8,
259
00:13:12,592 --> 00:13:15,076
Just a huge human being.
260
00:13:15,194 --> 00:13:17,094
He had a hair-trigger temper.
261
00:13:17,096 --> 00:13:19,263
This is unwarranted.
262
00:13:19,265 --> 00:13:21,432
Unnecessary.
263
00:13:21,434 --> 00:13:24,252
These guys watch
too many movies.
264
00:13:24,370 --> 00:13:26,437
He could be a
really scary dude.
265
00:13:26,439 --> 00:13:29,073
♪
266
00:13:29,075 --> 00:13:31,142
The strange twist to my
relationship with the iceman
267
00:13:31,261 --> 00:13:34,153
Is that during our
conversations...
268
00:13:34,155 --> 00:13:37,098
When I asked kuklinski
about cottingham,
269
00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:41,302
It became quickly evident
that he despised cottingham.
270
00:13:41,363 --> 00:13:44,272
To kind of get this from
this big, giant of a,
271
00:13:44,390 --> 00:13:45,973
Of a guy who kills people,
272
00:13:46,034 --> 00:13:48,827
And now he's got his
own moral code
273
00:13:48,945 --> 00:13:51,128
Where he's disgusted by
this other killer.
274
00:13:51,130 --> 00:13:54,207
So, he began to cooperate
with me and kind of
275
00:13:54,325 --> 00:13:56,084
Give me some dirt
on cottingham.
276
00:14:27,191 --> 00:14:28,983
Turns out- kuklinski
explains to me-
277
00:14:29,101 --> 00:14:31,244
Cottingham ran an
illegal gambling operation
278
00:14:31,362 --> 00:14:33,170
Within the prison.
279
00:14:33,172 --> 00:14:35,506
♪
280
00:14:35,508 --> 00:14:39,026
So, he used to run like, like
football and baseball and
281
00:14:39,087 --> 00:14:41,345
All sorts of gambling through
these tickets, right?
282
00:14:41,347 --> 00:14:44,348
Like, like an illegal lottery.
283
00:14:44,350 --> 00:14:47,001
And I decided that
that would be my in.
284
00:14:47,119 --> 00:14:51,589
♪
285
00:14:51,707 --> 00:14:54,100
In early 2004,
the super bowl
286
00:14:54,218 --> 00:14:57,528
That year was in
houston, texas.
287
00:14:57,530 --> 00:14:59,414
I'd never been
to a super bowl.
288
00:14:59,416 --> 00:15:01,274
♪
289
00:15:01,392 --> 00:15:03,384
I thought it'd be really
cool if me and my dad
290
00:15:03,445 --> 00:15:06,370
Took the trip out there,
and took in the game.
291
00:15:06,372 --> 00:15:08,981
I had amazing seats.
292
00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:11,442
The only thing that detracted
from my super bowl experience
293
00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,212
Was the anxiousness
and the anxiety...
294
00:15:15,214 --> 00:15:17,214
Wondering whether
this plan that I had
295
00:15:17,216 --> 00:15:19,191
Was actually
going to work.
296
00:15:19,210 --> 00:15:20,877
♪
297
00:15:21,037 --> 00:15:24,288
Having years of
prior experience
298
00:15:24,407 --> 00:15:26,140
In the organized
crime squad,
299
00:15:26,142 --> 00:15:27,383
Investigating
illegal gambling,
300
00:15:27,543 --> 00:15:30,411
Doing undercover work,
purporting to be a bookmaker,
301
00:15:30,472 --> 00:15:33,489
I understand there's no
crazier gambling day
302
00:15:33,516 --> 00:15:35,399
Than super bowl Sunday.
303
00:15:35,401 --> 00:15:39,053
♪
304
00:15:39,171 --> 00:15:42,482
In the weeks that led up
to that super bowl Sunday,
305
00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,392
I made all the
arrangements with
306
00:15:44,510 --> 00:15:46,152
The investigators
at the prison,
307
00:15:46,270 --> 00:15:49,322
Gave them all the
information they needed to...
308
00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,433
Enact my plan...
309
00:15:52,494 --> 00:15:55,753
For cottingham's cell to be
raided by prison officials
310
00:15:55,755 --> 00:16:00,424
The morning after
super bowl Sunday.
311
00:16:00,426 --> 00:16:02,259
When they
searched his cell,
312
00:16:02,261 --> 00:16:04,078
They found evidence
of the gambling operation,
313
00:16:04,196 --> 00:16:08,174
And cottingham was
thrown into the hole.
314
00:16:08,292 --> 00:16:10,251
In the prison system,
'the hole' was
315
00:16:10,369 --> 00:16:12,645
Basically solitary
confinement.
316
00:16:12,647 --> 00:16:14,563
♪
317
00:16:14,565 --> 00:16:15,974
You were removed
from your cell,
318
00:16:16,092 --> 00:16:17,517
All your privileges
were revoked.
319
00:16:17,635 --> 00:16:19,777
You didn't go outside,
you had no fresh air.
320
00:16:19,779 --> 00:16:21,821
There's no air conditioning.
321
00:16:21,823 --> 00:16:25,132
The new jersey prison
at the time was old and,
322
00:16:25,251 --> 00:16:27,193
It was not fun.
323
00:16:27,311 --> 00:16:29,270
♪
324
00:16:29,388 --> 00:16:30,621
Several days later,
325
00:16:30,623 --> 00:16:33,457
I go down to the prison
with my partner.
326
00:16:33,459 --> 00:16:36,536
♪
327
00:16:36,654 --> 00:16:38,112
They pull him
out of the hole,
328
00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:40,723
And bring him to
an interview room.
329
00:16:40,750 --> 00:16:44,210
I see this nearly
60-year-old guy,
330
00:16:44,328 --> 00:16:48,381
Long white beard...
Belly.
331
00:16:48,499 --> 00:16:52,493
Looking like a santa claus
with a really bad hangover.
332
00:16:52,554 --> 00:16:54,403
You know, his eyes
were bloodshot.
333
00:16:54,405 --> 00:16:57,223
He's dripping in sweat.
334
00:16:57,341 --> 00:16:59,133
And I just looked
at him and told him,
335
00:16:59,251 --> 00:17:00,651
"I'm the reason
you're in there."
336
00:17:00,653 --> 00:17:05,473
♪
337
00:17:05,591 --> 00:17:08,492
He looked at me with
some pretty wild eyes.
338
00:17:08,494 --> 00:17:10,177
And I didn't even give him
a chance to respond and was
339
00:17:10,238 --> 00:17:12,663
Just like, "I am going to
make your life a living hell
340
00:17:12,665 --> 00:17:14,449
Unless we have
a conversation."
341
00:17:33,786 --> 00:17:35,762
He, of course, did not
confess to anything.
342
00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,521
Didn't agree to anything.
343
00:17:37,523 --> 00:17:39,673
The only thing he
would agree to is...
344
00:17:39,792 --> 00:17:42,435
That he would be willing
to have continued
345
00:17:42,553 --> 00:17:45,104
Conversations with me
on one condition.
346
00:17:45,223 --> 00:17:46,697
And that condition was,
347
00:17:46,699 --> 00:17:48,532
If I ever tried to mess
with him again like this,
348
00:17:48,534 --> 00:17:50,367
Our relationship
would be over.
349
00:17:50,369 --> 00:17:52,719
♪
350
00:17:52,781 --> 00:17:54,872
Thankfully, my gut
intuition told me
351
00:17:54,874 --> 00:17:57,283
That he wasn't bluffing,
352
00:17:57,401 --> 00:17:59,693
And that the right move
was to just try and
353
00:17:59,812 --> 00:18:04,548
Begin to schmooze him and
begin to develop a trust.
354
00:18:04,550 --> 00:18:06,125
I needed to
355
00:18:06,244 --> 00:18:08,385
Take a different tact than
that initial approach.
356
00:18:08,387 --> 00:18:10,721
That the tough guy routine
wasn't going to work with him.
357
00:18:10,723 --> 00:18:15,392
♪
358
00:18:15,394 --> 00:18:20,297
♪
359
00:18:20,416 --> 00:18:24,485
I started with richard
cottingham in early 2004.
360
00:18:24,487 --> 00:18:26,813
I had no idea what cases he
might be responsible for.
361
00:18:26,931 --> 00:18:29,148
It was just a feeling
that maybe he was
362
00:18:29,267 --> 00:18:31,408
Responsible for
some of them.
363
00:18:31,410 --> 00:18:34,261
♪
364
00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,657
I was visiting him
at the prison.
365
00:18:37,775 --> 00:18:40,843
I just told him, "hey, I think
you committed crimes
366
00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:42,703
Long before you
were arrested."
367
00:19:13,311 --> 00:19:15,194
I spent a lot of time with
him to try and build a
368
00:19:15,313 --> 00:19:17,572
Relationship, but he refused
to talk about anything new.
369
00:19:37,743 --> 00:19:41,478
Anzilotti understood he was
in it for the long game.
370
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,316
And that means he's going to
spend a lot of time and
371
00:19:45,318 --> 00:19:49,228
Come away with nothing,
time after time after time.
372
00:19:49,347 --> 00:19:52,823
But, if he played it right
and he stayed vigilant
373
00:19:52,825 --> 00:19:55,492
For the weak spots,
374
00:19:55,494 --> 00:19:57,236
The openings...
375
00:19:57,355 --> 00:19:59,830
He would be able
to get information.
376
00:19:59,832 --> 00:20:02,333
♪
377
00:20:02,335 --> 00:20:04,619
And it's difficult to...
378
00:20:04,737 --> 00:20:06,579
Spend hours with someone
and feel like
379
00:20:06,697 --> 00:20:08,339
You're not
accomplishing anything.
380
00:20:08,341 --> 00:20:12,326
But like water dropping
on a rock, okay...
381
00:20:12,444 --> 00:20:15,588
Eventually the rock begins
to smooth out and change.
382
00:20:15,706 --> 00:20:18,758
You're going to crack it.
383
00:20:18,876 --> 00:20:22,503
Rob was persistent,
he never gave up.
384
00:20:22,621 --> 00:20:24,871
Rob anzilotti was
handpicked because of
385
00:20:24,933 --> 00:20:29,143
Who rob anzilotti was.
He was just a great cop.
386
00:20:29,528 --> 00:20:33,880
♪
387
00:20:33,942 --> 00:20:36,383
I did not always
want to be a cop.
388
00:20:36,444 --> 00:20:40,921
I was kind of a, you know,
confused, mixed up teenager.
389
00:20:40,923 --> 00:20:43,707
I didn't know what the
hell I wanted to do.
390
00:20:43,709 --> 00:20:45,693
My mom was a nurse.
391
00:20:45,811 --> 00:20:48,895
I always kind of just had a
thing about helping people.
392
00:20:48,915 --> 00:20:51,882
So, I became a paramedic.
393
00:20:51,884 --> 00:20:53,534
Worked in newark
for a while.
394
00:20:53,652 --> 00:20:55,962
It was during the crack
epidemic, very violent city.
395
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,905
Saw a lot of,
lot of crazy stuff.
396
00:20:58,967 --> 00:21:00,724
That's what brought me
to law enforcement,
397
00:21:00,726 --> 00:21:02,876
Just seeing how hard the
cops worked and
398
00:21:03,037 --> 00:21:04,461
What they had to deal with.
399
00:21:04,580 --> 00:21:06,880
I loved it from the minute
I put the uniform on.
400
00:21:06,999 --> 00:21:09,033
♪
401
00:21:09,035 --> 00:21:11,802
That same passion that I felt
when I first put the uniform
402
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,388
On was only amplified
and magnified
403
00:21:14,506 --> 00:21:16,665
When I became a detective.
404
00:21:16,693 --> 00:21:18,000
In 2004, I was a
sergeant in the
405
00:21:18,027 --> 00:21:20,394
Special
investigations squad.
406
00:21:20,512 --> 00:21:22,746
The new chief formed that
squad and hand-picked
407
00:21:22,748 --> 00:21:24,915
The people that
go into it.
408
00:21:24,917 --> 00:21:27,084
I was given a lot
of leeway to do...
409
00:21:27,086 --> 00:21:29,086
Whatever I felt,
without anyone
410
00:21:29,088 --> 00:21:31,755
Interrupting me dealing
with cottingham.
411
00:21:31,757 --> 00:21:33,974
♪
412
00:21:33,976 --> 00:21:35,901
Once I was talking to
richard cottingham
413
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,928
For those early months,
414
00:21:37,930 --> 00:21:40,689
He would give me
absolutely nothing.
415
00:21:40,717 --> 00:21:42,766
It was worse than
pulling teeth,
416
00:21:42,768 --> 00:21:45,753
It was like just hitting
a brick wall all the time.
417
00:21:45,913 --> 00:21:47,571
There was no way
for me to let it go,
418
00:21:47,573 --> 00:21:49,790
Because at some point,
to let it go
419
00:21:49,851 --> 00:21:51,534
Would be a complete failure,
420
00:21:51,561 --> 00:21:53,627
And I couldn't
accept failure.
421
00:21:53,688 --> 00:21:56,914
I really saw these baby steps
as an opportunity to get
422
00:21:56,916 --> 00:22:00,559
Where I needed to go
with these 12 cold cases.
423
00:22:00,677 --> 00:22:02,786
The best way to
get there was
424
00:22:02,788 --> 00:22:04,530
To just get him talking
all the time,
425
00:22:04,648 --> 00:22:07,533
And he grew comfortable
talking about crimes
426
00:22:07,651 --> 00:22:09,793
That the world knew he
committed already,
427
00:22:09,795 --> 00:22:13,831
Crimes he went to trial on,
crimes he was convicted of.
428
00:22:13,949 --> 00:22:17,893
Prior to his arrest, he went
on this murderous...
429
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,121
Frenzy, in just a
handful of weeks,
430
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,049
When he was hunting
prostitutes.
431
00:22:44,847 --> 00:22:50,851
♪
432
00:22:50,912 --> 00:22:53,670
I was on routine
patrol that morning.
433
00:22:53,672 --> 00:22:55,055
♪
434
00:22:55,057 --> 00:22:58,675
And then, that first call
on the radio came through.
435
00:22:58,677 --> 00:23:00,753
♪
436
00:23:00,871 --> 00:23:03,589
"go down to the quality inn.
437
00:23:03,707 --> 00:23:06,016
There's a report of a
woman screaming in a room."
438
00:23:06,018 --> 00:23:08,185
♪
439
00:23:08,187 --> 00:23:11,063
As I pulled into the
motel parking lot,
440
00:23:11,065 --> 00:23:14,191
There was a man
waving frantically.
441
00:23:14,193 --> 00:23:17,027
He says, "there's
a man with a gun."
442
00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:20,606
♪ [suspenseful] ♪
443
00:23:25,563 --> 00:23:28,054
We received a radio message
444
00:23:28,074 --> 00:23:32,118
About a woman screaming
at the quality motel...
445
00:23:32,236 --> 00:23:35,045
In hasbrouck heights,
on route 17.
446
00:23:35,047 --> 00:23:37,664
♪
447
00:23:37,783 --> 00:23:39,959
When I came into
the small lobby,
448
00:23:40,077 --> 00:23:42,645
Down the hallway from
around the corner,
449
00:23:42,672 --> 00:23:45,873
I saw a man
running towards me.
450
00:23:45,991 --> 00:23:48,817
He was carrying a satchel,
451
00:23:48,845 --> 00:23:50,911
And he had a gun.
452
00:23:50,972 --> 00:23:52,972
As he rounded the corner...
453
00:23:53,090 --> 00:23:56,008
I yelled,
"stop, don't move!"
454
00:23:56,126 --> 00:24:00,479
He stopped approximately
one inch from the barrel.
455
00:24:00,598 --> 00:24:03,056
Had he moved his right hand,
456
00:24:03,175 --> 00:24:04,733
I would have pulled
the trigger.
457
00:24:04,894 --> 00:24:07,052
There was no ifs,
ands, or buts.
458
00:24:07,071 --> 00:24:10,489
He dropped all his
parcels on the ground.
459
00:24:10,608 --> 00:24:13,099
He says, "I didn't
do anything.
460
00:24:13,161 --> 00:24:16,587
I was with a hooker
and got scared."
461
00:24:16,589 --> 00:24:18,755
His name was
richard cottingham.
462
00:24:18,757 --> 00:24:22,743
♪
463
00:24:22,861 --> 00:24:26,004
Inside the room,
they found a young female
464
00:24:26,006 --> 00:24:30,100
Identified as leslie o'dell.
465
00:24:30,102 --> 00:24:34,013
Leslie o'dell was naked.
466
00:24:34,131 --> 00:24:38,124
She had handcuffs
on her ankles.
467
00:24:38,186 --> 00:24:40,928
She recounted a story about
468
00:24:41,046 --> 00:24:43,764
How she had met
a male in new york,
469
00:24:43,882 --> 00:24:47,968
And he had taken
her to the motel.
470
00:24:48,029 --> 00:24:50,971
Leslie o'dell was working
as a streetwalker
471
00:24:51,032 --> 00:24:52,956
In new york city.
472
00:24:52,958 --> 00:24:55,868
Cottingham was able to
convince her to come with him
473
00:24:55,986 --> 00:24:57,861
Under the promise that he
would give her money so
474
00:24:57,980 --> 00:25:01,682
She could get out of the
prostitution business.
475
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,300
So, she got into the
car with cottingham,
476
00:25:03,302 --> 00:25:05,336
They went to new jersey.
477
00:25:05,654 --> 00:25:07,621
♪
478
00:25:07,739 --> 00:25:12,125
Next thing you know, they end
up in the quality inn motel.
479
00:25:12,244 --> 00:25:14,978
What started out as a
simple sexual encounter
480
00:25:14,980 --> 00:25:18,632
Suddenly escalated with
bondage and torture.
481
00:25:18,750 --> 00:25:21,134
♪
482
00:25:21,253 --> 00:25:23,637
He was just beginning.
483
00:25:23,755 --> 00:25:26,156
♪
484
00:25:26,158 --> 00:25:29,893
He handcuffed her on
her ankles because
485
00:25:29,895 --> 00:25:32,980
He was afraid she was
going to escape.
486
00:25:33,098 --> 00:25:35,741
She had adhesive
tape on her mouth.
487
00:25:35,859 --> 00:25:38,335
♪
488
00:25:38,337 --> 00:25:41,838
He cut her in the
area of her breasts,
489
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,083
Burned her with a cigarette...
490
00:25:44,201 --> 00:25:47,086
Sodomized her.
491
00:25:47,204 --> 00:25:50,589
At some point, he decides
he wants a tongue bath,
492
00:25:50,708 --> 00:25:53,759
Which means he wants her to
lick him all over his body.
493
00:25:53,877 --> 00:25:55,168
But in order to do that,
494
00:25:55,287 --> 00:25:58,264
He has to take the tape
off her mouth.
495
00:25:58,382 --> 00:26:01,858
She saw an opportunity,
she lets out a scream.
496
00:26:01,860 --> 00:26:07,030
♪
497
00:26:07,032 --> 00:26:09,032
[knocking]
498
00:26:09,034 --> 00:26:10,867
Richard cottingham is
standing behind
499
00:26:10,869 --> 00:26:12,945
Leslie o'dell with a
knife to her back:
500
00:26:13,063 --> 00:26:16,873
"tell her
everything's okay."
501
00:26:16,875 --> 00:26:20,619
"is everything okay?"
"yes."
502
00:26:20,738 --> 00:26:23,196
At this point, he realizes
the jig is up.
503
00:26:23,315 --> 00:26:25,882
♪
504
00:26:25,884 --> 00:26:28,719
Everything begins to collapse.
505
00:26:28,721 --> 00:26:30,796
Richard cottingham's
going to be under arrest.
506
00:26:30,914 --> 00:26:33,816
♪
507
00:26:33,843 --> 00:26:35,759
And now they have
a living witness.
508
00:26:35,878 --> 00:26:40,872
♪
509
00:26:40,891 --> 00:26:43,800
After leslie ann o'dell
is rescued by the police,
510
00:26:43,919 --> 00:26:45,969
They find a number of things.
511
00:26:45,971 --> 00:26:47,904
They find a bottle of whiskey.
512
00:26:47,906 --> 00:26:50,240
And he was known to
be a big drinker.
513
00:26:50,242 --> 00:26:52,693
And encouraged his
victims to drink.
514
00:26:52,811 --> 00:26:55,829
He would use drugs
to drug his victims,
515
00:26:55,831 --> 00:26:57,898
Barbiturates and other
downers, so to speak,
516
00:26:58,016 --> 00:27:00,817
To kind of relax them,
and then get them to pass out.
517
00:27:00,936 --> 00:27:02,903
You know, clearly,
this is a mouth gag.
518
00:27:03,021 --> 00:27:05,164
Put it in, he would put
it in somebody's mouth,
519
00:27:05,282 --> 00:27:07,407
Tie the collar around.
520
00:27:07,409 --> 00:27:09,910
And, that would be a
way to keep them silent.
521
00:27:10,028 --> 00:27:11,795
These chokers that I
assume he would put on
522
00:27:11,914 --> 00:27:13,113
His victim's neck.
523
00:27:13,232 --> 00:27:14,915
So, these two
pair of handcuffs.
524
00:27:15,075 --> 00:27:17,158
I have two daughters
and, and for me,
525
00:27:17,219 --> 00:27:20,012
It comes to like I just
couldn't fathom, you know,
526
00:27:20,130 --> 00:27:22,848
Having one of my loved ones,
one of my daughters...
527
00:27:22,966 --> 00:27:24,850
Be brutally attacked
like this by an animal.
528
00:27:24,968 --> 00:27:26,259
He's got kids.
529
00:27:26,378 --> 00:27:29,963
He's got a girl, he has a
wife that he didn't abuse,
530
00:27:30,024 --> 00:27:31,190
As far as I know.
531
00:27:31,308 --> 00:27:33,692
And yet, look at what he's
doing to total strangers.
532
00:27:33,811 --> 00:27:35,327
I think he thought
he was untouchable.
533
00:27:35,329 --> 00:27:39,698
♪
534
00:27:39,817 --> 00:27:41,200
Having looked at the
crime scene photos
535
00:27:41,318 --> 00:27:42,959
Of leslie ann o'dell,
536
00:27:42,961 --> 00:27:45,462
There were some similarities
to some of the unsolved
537
00:27:45,464 --> 00:27:48,131
Cold cases that I had
been looking at.
538
00:27:48,133 --> 00:27:51,368
Some of the victims of these
cold cases had ligature marks
539
00:27:51,486 --> 00:27:53,704
On their ankles,
on their wrists.
540
00:27:53,822 --> 00:27:56,990
Some were found tied up.
541
00:27:57,051 --> 00:27:59,401
By letting him just
talk and ramble,
542
00:27:59,428 --> 00:28:02,979
I'm learning what
makes him tick...
543
00:28:02,981 --> 00:28:04,815
And that was really,
really important
544
00:28:04,817 --> 00:28:07,150
In those early years.
545
00:28:07,152 --> 00:28:08,744
He would talk in
general terms about
546
00:28:08,771 --> 00:28:10,470
What he would
call 'hunting'.
547
00:28:10,589 --> 00:28:12,489
So, I began to
learn about, like,
548
00:28:12,491 --> 00:28:14,108
Some of his killing methods.
549
00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:42,869
Does this guy have
a beef with women?
550
00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:45,505
Is there something in
his past that led him
551
00:28:45,624 --> 00:28:47,933
To become this
killer that he is?
552
00:28:48,051 --> 00:28:50,026
I really had no idea.
553
00:28:50,028 --> 00:28:51,995
♪
554
00:28:52,114 --> 00:28:56,074
Richard cottingham was
a young family man.
555
00:28:56,076 --> 00:28:59,928
He lived in lodi,
new jersey.
556
00:28:59,989 --> 00:29:02,388
A wife, three children...
557
00:29:02,550 --> 00:29:06,118
Had a good job in the
computer division of
558
00:29:06,236 --> 00:29:09,821
Blue cross blue shield
in new york.
559
00:29:09,940 --> 00:29:14,384
He was a smart individual,
but very manipulative.
560
00:29:14,386 --> 00:29:16,386
♪
561
00:29:16,388 --> 00:29:19,389
His parents were
decent people.
562
00:29:19,391 --> 00:29:22,300
He didn't come
from a bad home.
563
00:29:22,302 --> 00:29:25,295
He comes from a
catholic background.
564
00:29:25,413 --> 00:29:26,472
He's always told me that
565
00:29:26,590 --> 00:29:28,182
He's not your typical
serial killer.
566
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,107
Richard cottingham
oversimplifies
567
00:30:11,109 --> 00:30:13,535
What it means to be
a serial killer.
568
00:30:13,562 --> 00:30:17,280
And he seems to think that
they all enjoy killing,
569
00:30:17,282 --> 00:30:18,265
And that isn't true.
570
00:30:18,383 --> 00:30:21,117
Only some of them
enjoy killing.
571
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:25,138
Many of them do exactly
what he did- or said he did-
572
00:30:25,199 --> 00:30:29,192
Which is to torture someone,
and then
573
00:30:29,311 --> 00:30:31,461
Remove the witness...
574
00:30:31,463 --> 00:30:34,222
And that is a lot
of serial killers.
575
00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:36,041
He fits that.
576
00:31:06,282 --> 00:31:08,665
Because of the way that
577
00:31:08,667 --> 00:31:13,245
Leslie o'dell was abused...
578
00:31:13,363 --> 00:31:17,099
Made us suspect immediately
579
00:31:17,126 --> 00:31:19,267
That there was
a connection to
580
00:31:19,295 --> 00:31:22,270
A number of
unsolved homicides
581
00:31:22,298 --> 00:31:25,332
That occurred at
the same motel.
582
00:31:25,450 --> 00:31:30,520
♪
583
00:31:30,522 --> 00:31:37,193
♪
584
00:31:37,195 --> 00:31:41,448
A maid cleaning room 132,
while she's vacuuming,
585
00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:44,550
Bumps into something
under the bed.
586
00:31:44,612 --> 00:31:47,203
She looks under the bed,
she lets out a scream.
587
00:31:47,205 --> 00:31:50,157
♪
588
00:31:59,242 --> 00:32:01,368
On may 22nd, 1980,
589
00:32:01,486 --> 00:32:04,963
Cottingham is caught
at the quality inn in
590
00:32:05,082 --> 00:32:07,966
Hasbrouck heights as he
tries to flee the scene...
591
00:32:08,085 --> 00:32:13,229
After attempting to
kill leslie o'dell.
592
00:32:13,348 --> 00:32:15,382
Staff had been
totally on high alert,
593
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:18,977
As had the local police,
because just weeks earlier...
594
00:32:19,096 --> 00:32:22,389
Another dead body was found
stuffed under a bed
595
00:32:22,507 --> 00:32:25,442
In that same
quality inn motel.
596
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,703
What the investigators
find is 19-year-old,
597
00:32:28,705 --> 00:32:31,122
Valerie street...
598
00:32:31,124 --> 00:32:33,033
A known prostitute who had
just recently been arrested
599
00:32:33,151 --> 00:32:35,068
For prostitution offenses.
600
00:32:35,186 --> 00:32:38,029
♪
601
00:32:38,148 --> 00:32:41,399
Valerie ann street was naked.
602
00:32:41,418 --> 00:32:43,343
She had what appeared to be
603
00:32:43,345 --> 00:32:47,673
Adhesive residue
around her mouth.
604
00:32:47,791 --> 00:32:52,010
She had handcuffs
on her wrists.
605
00:32:52,129 --> 00:32:55,772
There was a latent
fingerprint that was lifted
606
00:32:55,774 --> 00:32:57,307
From the handcuffs,
607
00:32:57,426 --> 00:33:01,578
And that print was retained.
608
00:33:01,580 --> 00:33:04,514
Richard explained to me
that he graduated-
609
00:33:04,632 --> 00:33:05,832
So to speak-
610
00:33:05,834 --> 00:33:11,104
To really focusing on raping
and murdering prostitutes
611
00:33:11,222 --> 00:33:14,140
Because he felt
that they were
612
00:33:14,201 --> 00:33:18,628
Less accountable in society.
613
00:33:18,630 --> 00:33:21,206
He has a story where,
614
00:33:21,324 --> 00:33:24,284
"women would do
anything I wanted."
615
00:33:24,402 --> 00:33:26,211
Which just tells you
616
00:33:26,329 --> 00:33:30,623
He would only go for women
that would yield to him-
617
00:33:30,742 --> 00:33:33,643
For money or because they
were young and scared and
618
00:33:33,645 --> 00:33:35,645
Didn't know
what else to do.
619
00:33:35,647 --> 00:33:37,447
♪
620
00:33:37,449 --> 00:33:41,217
Because of the similarities
amongst those cases,
621
00:33:41,336 --> 00:33:44,529
We weren't just interested
in what occurred with
622
00:33:44,531 --> 00:33:48,308
O'dell, we were
interested in other things.
623
00:33:48,426 --> 00:33:53,163
Almost three years before
valerie ann street's murder,
624
00:33:53,165 --> 00:33:56,950
Another homicide had
occurred at the quality inn.
625
00:33:57,235 --> 00:34:02,338
♪
626
00:34:02,340 --> 00:34:05,475
Maryann carr was
a young, attractive
627
00:34:05,477 --> 00:34:09,345
X-ray technician...
628
00:34:09,347 --> 00:34:13,291
Who lived with her husband
in an apartment
629
00:34:13,409 --> 00:34:16,336
At ledgewood terrace
in little ferry.
630
00:34:16,338 --> 00:34:20,690
Her husband had been
away on a business trip.
631
00:34:20,692 --> 00:34:22,692
When he attempted to
get a hold of her,
632
00:34:22,694 --> 00:34:24,544
He wasn't able to.
633
00:34:24,605 --> 00:34:27,180
And after several tries
he became concerned.
634
00:34:27,298 --> 00:34:31,626
♪
635
00:34:31,653 --> 00:34:35,113
The next morning,
I was notified
636
00:34:35,232 --> 00:34:39,709
That a body had been
found in the parking area
637
00:34:39,711 --> 00:34:42,996
Of the quality inn motel in
hasbrouck heights.
638
00:34:43,314 --> 00:34:50,253
♪
639
00:34:50,372 --> 00:34:54,758
Maryann was lying
near the parking area,
640
00:34:54,876 --> 00:34:58,703
Next to a chain link fence.
641
00:34:58,705 --> 00:35:02,549
She's wearing her white
x-ray tech uniform.
642
00:35:02,667 --> 00:35:05,585
She is lying and
kind of curled up,
643
00:35:05,746 --> 00:35:07,737
Where she obviously
had been dumped.
644
00:35:07,739 --> 00:35:10,348
♪
645
00:35:10,466 --> 00:35:14,236
There are ligature marks
on her hands and her feet.
646
00:35:14,396 --> 00:35:16,788
There are tears
in her uniform.
647
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:18,565
Somebody had sexually
assaulted her and then
648
00:35:18,683 --> 00:35:20,342
Redressed her.
649
00:35:20,369 --> 00:35:22,752
She had been strangled.
650
00:35:22,754 --> 00:35:24,830
♪
651
00:35:26,925 --> 00:35:30,927
You know, of my 12 cold cases
involving these young women,
652
00:35:30,929 --> 00:35:32,495
The overwhelming
majority of them were
653
00:35:32,614 --> 00:35:35,598
Either strangled
or suffocated.
654
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,137
♪
655
00:35:40,255 --> 00:35:44,182
It was a mystery.
656
00:35:44,301 --> 00:35:47,927
And there was no connection
whatsoever between
657
00:35:48,046 --> 00:35:50,763
Maryann carr and
valerie street...
658
00:35:50,882 --> 00:35:54,225
♪
659
00:35:54,344 --> 00:35:56,953
Until they caught
richard cottingham
660
00:35:56,955 --> 00:35:59,622
Running from the building.
661
00:35:59,624 --> 00:36:01,533
♪
662
00:36:01,651 --> 00:36:05,887
We compared
cottingham's fingerprint to
663
00:36:05,914 --> 00:36:08,239
The latent fingerprint on
664
00:36:08,358 --> 00:36:10,767
Valerie ann street's
handcuffs.
665
00:36:10,885 --> 00:36:13,703
♪
666
00:36:13,821 --> 00:36:16,590
And it was a homerun.
667
00:36:16,708 --> 00:36:18,550
We knew we had the right guy.
668
00:36:42,433 --> 00:36:45,835
He would not admit
his guilt in any of it.
669
00:36:45,837 --> 00:36:48,371
It was like a game of cat and
mouse between the two of us.
670
00:37:26,736 --> 00:37:28,561
You can't feed anything
to them and
671
00:37:28,622 --> 00:37:30,805
Put thoughts in their head.
672
00:37:30,832 --> 00:37:33,566
And that's also part of
what this whole
673
00:37:33,627 --> 00:37:35,868
Kind of grind is with him
because, you know,
674
00:37:35,987 --> 00:37:37,887
He had no fear in talking
about the things
675
00:37:37,889 --> 00:37:39,389
He was already convicted of,
676
00:37:39,391 --> 00:37:41,724
But he refused to talk
about anything new.
677
00:37:41,726 --> 00:37:42,908
♪
678
00:37:42,970 --> 00:37:45,303
He's not just willing to just
sit there and say to me,
679
00:37:45,422 --> 00:37:48,414
"in 1969, I remember
killing this 15-year-old."
680
00:37:48,475 --> 00:37:50,566
It's not like that with him.
681
00:37:50,568 --> 00:37:51,734
You kind of have to just get
682
00:37:51,736 --> 00:37:55,888
These little bits and
pieces and put it together.
683
00:37:56,007 --> 00:37:59,909
You're getting something,
but you don't want the guy
684
00:37:59,911 --> 00:38:01,653
To know you're
getting something,
685
00:38:01,771 --> 00:38:03,913
Because he's trying
to control that
686
00:38:03,915 --> 00:38:05,490
Piece of information.
687
00:38:05,608 --> 00:38:07,826
And you have to be
very cool about it...
688
00:38:07,944 --> 00:38:09,828
Because he could
shut it down and say,
689
00:38:09,946 --> 00:38:11,738
"that's it,
no more talking."
690
00:38:11,856 --> 00:38:16,926
'cause he realizes he
just lost leverage.
691
00:38:16,928 --> 00:38:19,762
That's not okay for
someone who needs control.
692
00:38:19,764 --> 00:38:25,844
♪
693
00:38:25,962 --> 00:38:29,906
We executed a search
warrant at his house...
694
00:38:30,024 --> 00:38:33,351
And on his vehicles.
695
00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:37,580
He had a locked room
in the basement.
696
00:38:37,582 --> 00:38:40,116
His wife, janet,
was asked about that,
697
00:38:40,118 --> 00:38:42,635
And she said, "yes,
that is his room.
698
00:38:42,696 --> 00:38:45,438
I know nothing about it.
He keeps it locked,
699
00:38:45,556 --> 00:38:47,807
And I'm not
allowed in there."
700
00:38:47,868 --> 00:38:51,627
She was in the process of
filing for divorce from him.
701
00:38:51,629 --> 00:38:53,538
They had trouble
in the marriage.
702
00:39:10,006 --> 00:39:12,982
His wife had said she
was going to leave him and
703
00:39:12,984 --> 00:39:15,393
Take his three kids with her.
704
00:39:15,512 --> 00:39:20,607
He blames that for the
reason why he got, "sloppy".
705
00:39:48,044 --> 00:39:50,186
He doesn't want a
divorce, necessarily,
706
00:39:50,188 --> 00:39:54,690
But that he cannot let her be
the one in charge of that...
707
00:39:54,692 --> 00:39:58,194
And she was, she's the one
who made the first move.
708
00:39:58,196 --> 00:40:00,763
Someone who is a
narcissist like he is,
709
00:40:00,882 --> 00:40:03,650
His children are
extensions of himself.
710
00:40:03,768 --> 00:40:05,759
There's an ownership
thing there.
711
00:40:05,821 --> 00:40:08,554
She will not take them.
712
00:40:08,615 --> 00:40:11,874
She will not take the
stability of his life.
713
00:40:11,876 --> 00:40:16,863
♪
714
00:40:16,981 --> 00:40:21,292
Inside that locked room
were a number of items:
715
00:40:21,294 --> 00:40:27,031
Money, some
pornography magazines,
716
00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:29,141
Women's jewellery,
717
00:40:29,143 --> 00:40:31,970
Some articles of
women's clothing.
718
00:40:32,088 --> 00:40:34,714
♪
719
00:40:34,832 --> 00:40:37,475
These were all books that
were found in cottingham's
720
00:40:37,594 --> 00:40:40,812
Residence when the detectives
searched his house.
721
00:40:40,930 --> 00:40:45,708
So, like, "sex victims:
Stories of surrender".
722
00:40:45,827 --> 00:40:47,092
There's,
"the prisoner of the sheik,"
723
00:40:47,254 --> 00:40:50,155
And a woman tied up
on the cover.
724
00:40:50,273 --> 00:40:52,866
"tied up teasers," with
two women tied to a bed.
725
00:40:55,686 --> 00:40:56,769
"the boyfriend's revenge".
726
00:40:56,830 --> 00:40:59,164
Two men who look like they're
about to rape a woman.
727
00:40:59,282 --> 00:41:01,040
So, finding these books,
I'm sure the detectives
728
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:02,742
When they found them
were like,
729
00:41:02,860 --> 00:41:05,745
"wow, we just
found gold here."
730
00:41:05,863 --> 00:41:09,098
Once bergen county
connected those cases...
731
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:10,766
They're going to
find out that
732
00:41:10,768 --> 00:41:13,603
It was much bigger than
they thought it was.
733
00:41:13,605 --> 00:41:15,621
Firemen were the first to
arrive at the scene
734
00:41:15,682 --> 00:41:17,590
At about 9:30 this morning.
735
00:41:17,708 --> 00:41:19,534
They were responding to
a report of a fire in
736
00:41:19,561 --> 00:41:22,111
A west side hotel room.
737
00:41:22,113 --> 00:41:25,181
They find two young,
nude bodies
738
00:41:25,299 --> 00:41:27,692
With no heads and hands.
739
00:41:27,810 --> 00:41:30,069
It was something out
of a horror movie.
740
00:41:37,621 --> 00:41:45,968
♪
741
00:41:45,970 --> 00:41:47,962
The new york city fire
department was called to the
742
00:41:48,122 --> 00:41:51,065
Travel inn hotel on
west 42nd street
743
00:41:51,225 --> 00:41:52,800
On a report of a fire.
744
00:41:52,961 --> 00:41:56,237
♪
745
00:41:56,264 --> 00:41:58,648
They went into the room,
they dragged the
746
00:41:58,650 --> 00:42:00,908
Body of a nude female
from the room.
747
00:42:00,936 --> 00:42:03,653
♪
748
00:42:03,655 --> 00:42:05,638
Pulled it into the hallway,
was about to give
749
00:42:05,798 --> 00:42:08,750
Mouth-to-mouth resuscitation,
but there was no head.
750
00:42:08,777 --> 00:42:13,220
♪ [suspenseful] ♪
751
00:42:13,281 --> 00:42:15,273
And in an effort to
cover up that homicide,
752
00:42:15,391 --> 00:42:18,609
Their heads and hands had
been removed and severed and
753
00:42:18,728 --> 00:42:19,761
Taken from the scene.
754
00:42:19,788 --> 00:42:21,763
To this day,
they've never been found.
755
00:42:21,790 --> 00:42:24,082
♪
756
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,669
There were marks on their
legs, arm, back, buttocks,
757
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:30,121
Incised marks, but
also puncture marks.
758
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,890
♪
759
00:42:32,892 --> 00:42:35,777
You're dealing with a
psychopathic sexual sadist.
760
00:42:35,804 --> 00:42:38,354
This was pure evil.
761
00:42:38,356 --> 00:42:40,981
[news] today police search
for clues into the death of
762
00:42:40,983 --> 00:42:42,950
The young women,
both white and about
763
00:42:43,111 --> 00:42:44,902
19 to 20 years old.
764
00:42:44,904 --> 00:42:47,363
A spokesman said the
cuts were very clean.
765
00:42:47,365 --> 00:42:49,715
Probably inflicted
with a butcher's tool,
766
00:42:49,776 --> 00:42:52,110
A surgical instrument,
or sword.
767
00:42:52,228 --> 00:42:56,297
♪
768
00:42:56,324 --> 00:43:00,601
These two women had been held
in that room for three days:
769
00:43:00,662 --> 00:43:02,704
November 29th to
December 2nd.
770
00:43:36,931 --> 00:43:40,825
♪
771
00:43:40,943 --> 00:43:42,827
In an effort to
identify the victims
772
00:43:42,945 --> 00:43:45,012
From the travel inn hotel,
773
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,849
They came up with the
creative idea of actually
774
00:43:47,876 --> 00:43:52,261
Putting the victims'
clothes on a mannequin...
775
00:43:52,263 --> 00:43:58,267
And then putting a picture
of that in the newspaper.
776
00:43:58,269 --> 00:44:00,762
The news was all
over the place.
777
00:44:00,922 --> 00:44:02,930
♪
778
00:44:03,091 --> 00:44:05,516
He was called the
'torso killer'.
779
00:44:05,802 --> 00:44:09,987
♪
780
00:44:09,989 --> 00:44:12,782
After two months,
someone from new jersey
781
00:44:12,784 --> 00:44:15,117
Recognized the
clothing of one person
782
00:44:15,119 --> 00:44:17,845
From the midtown torso case.
783
00:44:17,906 --> 00:44:21,090
♪
784
00:44:21,092 --> 00:44:23,384
That resulted in the
positive identification
785
00:44:23,411 --> 00:44:26,053
Of deedeh goodarzi.
786
00:44:26,081 --> 00:44:28,055
She was a prostitute.
787
00:44:28,083 --> 00:44:29,773
♪
788
00:44:29,793 --> 00:44:31,709
[news] miss goodarzi was
born in kuwait and
789
00:44:31,828 --> 00:44:33,986
Came to the us
when she was 14.
790
00:44:34,047 --> 00:44:36,138
Her family lives
in trenton, nj.
791
00:44:36,140 --> 00:44:38,140
Police are still looking for
information about the
792
00:44:38,142 --> 00:44:40,902
Other victim, last seen
wearing these clothes.
793
00:44:40,929 --> 00:44:43,237
♪
794
00:44:43,264 --> 00:44:45,715
Unfortunately, the second
victim- to this day-
795
00:44:45,833 --> 00:44:47,074
Remains a jane doe.
796
00:44:47,102 --> 00:44:48,801
The investigators, despite
their best efforts,
797
00:44:48,919 --> 00:44:51,078
Have never been able
to identify her.
798
00:44:51,106 --> 00:44:52,713
♪
799
00:44:52,774 --> 00:44:55,141
Four months later, the body
of yet another prostitute is
800
00:44:55,259 --> 00:44:59,011
Found murdered at the hotel
seville in times square.
801
00:44:59,072 --> 00:45:03,131
When the body was recovered,
there were no clothes.
802
00:45:03,133 --> 00:45:04,817
He had taken the clothes.
803
00:45:04,935 --> 00:45:08,079
[sirens continue]
804
00:45:13,177 --> 00:45:15,436
Firefighters were called
to the hotel seville,
805
00:45:15,463 --> 00:45:18,889
Which is at 29th street
and madison avenue.
806
00:45:19,008 --> 00:45:22,184
Once again, a hotel
room was on fire.
807
00:45:22,186 --> 00:45:26,280
Inside the hotel room was
a nude body of a victim.
808
00:45:26,307 --> 00:45:29,917
♪
809
00:45:29,978 --> 00:45:31,844
The body had been burned
810
00:45:32,004 --> 00:45:35,089
With the same type
of torture marks
811
00:45:35,091 --> 00:45:38,292
That were on the girls
at the midtown torso case.
812
00:45:38,319 --> 00:45:41,838
♪
813
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,299
And this time, the offender
had defeminized the victim,
814
00:45:45,326 --> 00:45:47,969
Removing both of her breasts.
815
00:45:47,996 --> 00:45:50,137
And that was pretty shocking
because the breasts
816
00:45:50,165 --> 00:45:51,973
Were then put on
the headboard,
817
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,308
Presented by the offender
to the authorities.
818
00:45:54,335 --> 00:45:58,104
♪
819
00:45:58,131 --> 00:46:00,314
That was a hotel
room from hell.
820
00:46:00,341 --> 00:46:02,341
Only satan could tell you
what went on in there.
821
00:46:22,572 --> 00:46:24,096
The victim at the
hotel seville
822
00:46:24,157 --> 00:46:25,740
Was another prostitute.
823
00:46:25,900 --> 00:46:28,009
She was identified
as jean ann reyner.
824
00:46:28,036 --> 00:46:32,755
♪
825
00:46:32,757 --> 00:46:35,090
As I researched the cases
that cottingham had been
826
00:46:35,092 --> 00:46:38,352
Convicted of, they were
all so brutal in nature.
827
00:46:38,379 --> 00:46:41,188
Decapitation,
defeminizing.
828
00:46:41,216 --> 00:46:45,100
And, those were very
different than
829
00:46:45,102 --> 00:46:47,028
The 12 cold cases of these
young women in
830
00:46:47,055 --> 00:46:49,847
Bergen county that I
was investigating.
831
00:46:49,966 --> 00:46:51,423
So, at times I questioned:
832
00:46:51,542 --> 00:46:53,409
Am I wasting my time
with cottingham?
833
00:46:53,411 --> 00:46:56,070
Is he even responsible
for any of these?
834
00:46:56,072 --> 00:46:58,463
But, as the interviews
went on and on
835
00:46:58,483 --> 00:47:00,041
Over the months and years,
836
00:47:00,068 --> 00:47:02,376
Cottingham would constantly
explain to me that
837
00:47:02,403 --> 00:47:04,862
He always
changed up his mo.
838
00:47:04,981 --> 00:47:07,048
So, he didn't want the
police to think
839
00:47:07,075 --> 00:47:09,075
Any of these killings
were related.
840
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,556
It didn't take the new york
authorities less than a
841
00:47:15,583 --> 00:47:18,117
New york minute to
connect these cases.
842
00:47:18,235 --> 00:47:19,560
And that's when new york
communicated
843
00:47:19,587 --> 00:47:21,921
With bergen county.
844
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:24,489
A new york detective
saw the paper, and said,
845
00:47:24,509 --> 00:47:28,569
"listen, this
might be our case."
846
00:47:28,596 --> 00:47:31,997
The new york city
homicide task force
847
00:47:32,058 --> 00:47:35,810
Wanted to come over and
view our evidence
848
00:47:35,970 --> 00:47:38,712
To see if there was a
connection to three of
849
00:47:38,714 --> 00:47:42,308
Their open homicides
that occurred
850
00:47:42,426 --> 00:47:46,511
Within months of
cottingham's arrest.
851
00:47:46,573 --> 00:47:49,073
They had executed
a search warrant
852
00:47:49,191 --> 00:47:51,258
At his house in
lodi, new jersey.
853
00:47:51,286 --> 00:47:53,094
They came upon
a room that
854
00:47:53,121 --> 00:47:56,171
Even cottingham's wife
was not allowed in.
855
00:47:56,173 --> 00:47:58,599
His trophy room.
856
00:47:58,626 --> 00:48:00,918
Serial killers,
they collect
857
00:48:01,037 --> 00:48:03,028
Trophies of their victims.
858
00:48:03,189 --> 00:48:04,505
Kind of like a
hunting trophy,
859
00:48:04,665 --> 00:48:07,066
Proof of the kill.
860
00:48:07,184 --> 00:48:09,184
That's how the cases
were linked to new york,
861
00:48:09,186 --> 00:48:11,003
With the trophy room.
862
00:48:11,121 --> 00:48:12,446
So, this was big.
863
00:48:12,473 --> 00:48:14,281
Our evidence was
in new jersey.
864
00:48:14,309 --> 00:48:15,933
♪
865
00:48:24,035 --> 00:48:26,035
After cottingham's arrest,
866
00:48:26,037 --> 00:48:28,279
A search of his
residence finds
867
00:48:28,397 --> 00:48:33,542
A necklace that ultimately
is tied back to jean reyner.
868
00:48:33,544 --> 00:48:37,663
♪
869
00:48:37,782 --> 00:48:39,615
Jean ann reyner
had been arrested
870
00:48:39,733 --> 00:48:42,117
A few days prior
to the homicide,
871
00:48:42,236 --> 00:48:46,455
And in the bci picture is
the necklace on her neck.
872
00:48:46,573 --> 00:48:48,290
It's an exact match.
873
00:48:48,409 --> 00:48:51,010
♪
874
00:48:51,128 --> 00:48:53,679
There's still a very sick,
sick killer on the loose.
875
00:48:53,798 --> 00:48:56,140
The man who cut off the,
the heads and hands
876
00:48:56,258 --> 00:48:58,417
Of two women in a
manhattan hotel room.
877
00:48:58,478 --> 00:49:01,570
Now, the police have a lot
more questions than answers.
878
00:49:01,572 --> 00:49:03,222
It was three days ago that
news center 4 told you
879
00:49:03,340 --> 00:49:05,391
Police in new jersey believe
they had a suspect in
880
00:49:05,509 --> 00:49:07,501
The brutal killings of
several prostitutes.
881
00:49:07,528 --> 00:49:09,052
That report was
confirmed today,
882
00:49:09,072 --> 00:49:10,479
With the arrest of a
man by the name of
883
00:49:10,597 --> 00:49:12,156
Richard cottingham.
884
00:49:31,268 --> 00:49:34,436
[laughing]
885
00:49:34,438 --> 00:49:36,588
We never offered him a deal.
886
00:49:36,707 --> 00:49:40,092
♪
887
00:49:40,210 --> 00:49:43,354
We laid all of this out
before the grand jury,
888
00:49:43,472 --> 00:49:45,781
And the grand jury
returned an indictment
889
00:49:45,783 --> 00:49:48,667
For the crimes of assault
and kidnapping
890
00:49:48,669 --> 00:49:50,594
Against leslie ann o'dell,
891
00:49:50,613 --> 00:49:54,639
With crime of murder
against valerie ann street.
892
00:49:54,659 --> 00:49:57,109
♪
893
00:49:57,269 --> 00:49:59,628
But it was entirely
circumstantial against
894
00:49:59,630 --> 00:50:02,456
Maryann carr, but her murder
was also included
895
00:50:02,616 --> 00:50:04,466
In the same indictment.
896
00:50:04,468 --> 00:50:06,651
♪
897
00:50:06,671 --> 00:50:09,230
He pled not guilty and
took every case to trial.
898
00:50:09,257 --> 00:50:11,306
Would not cooperate,
would not...
899
00:50:11,308 --> 00:50:13,342
Admit his guilt in any of it.
900
00:50:13,461 --> 00:50:15,553
♪
901
00:50:15,671 --> 00:50:18,355
The thing that put him at
the scene of the
902
00:50:18,357 --> 00:50:21,650
Valerie ann street case
was the fingerprint
903
00:50:21,652 --> 00:50:24,219
That had been taken off
of the handcuffs
904
00:50:24,338 --> 00:50:27,322
That were on her body.
905
00:50:27,324 --> 00:50:29,875
♪
906
00:50:29,877 --> 00:50:32,644
We brought in
leslie ann o'dell.
907
00:50:32,763 --> 00:50:35,205
She was very reluctant
to come to testify,
908
00:50:35,207 --> 00:50:37,249
But she was cooperative.
909
00:50:37,409 --> 00:50:41,487
She was very matter of fact,
she remembered everything.
910
00:50:41,605 --> 00:50:44,356
She got on the stand
and just levelled him.
911
00:50:44,417 --> 00:50:46,100
"he drugged me,
raped me.
912
00:50:46,127 --> 00:50:50,195
He, he cut my breasts."
913
00:50:50,256 --> 00:50:53,299
And he just sat
there stone-faced.
914
00:50:53,417 --> 00:50:56,569
But it didn't
seem to faze him.
915
00:50:56,571 --> 00:50:58,737
He thought,
"ain't gonna matter.
916
00:50:58,739 --> 00:51:02,758
I'm going to testify, and
I'll explain all of this."
917
00:51:02,876 --> 00:51:05,260
He was running the show,
it was his show.
918
00:51:05,379 --> 00:51:08,247
♪
919
00:51:08,274 --> 00:51:10,749
So, he did take the stand.
920
00:51:10,777 --> 00:51:14,369
His demeanor was very calm.
921
00:51:14,371 --> 00:51:16,797
Mr. Cottingham thought
somehow that
922
00:51:16,824 --> 00:51:18,690
He was going to
beat the wrap.
923
00:51:18,809 --> 00:51:21,077
♪
924
00:51:21,195 --> 00:51:23,804
He admitted that
he engaged in
925
00:51:23,831 --> 00:51:28,309
Sadomasochistic
sexual activity.
926
00:51:28,336 --> 00:51:32,404
He claimed it was
all consensual...
927
00:51:32,465 --> 00:51:34,723
That this was all a game.
928
00:51:34,725 --> 00:51:37,318
♪
929
00:51:37,345 --> 00:51:40,304
He had lives within
lives within lives.
930
00:51:40,422 --> 00:51:42,731
♪
931
00:51:42,733 --> 00:51:44,266
His mother came in every day.
932
00:51:44,385 --> 00:51:47,386
And his sister,
which was even worse,
933
00:51:47,504 --> 00:51:50,648
Because they still
believed in him.
934
00:51:50,766 --> 00:51:52,650
And I'd say,
"mrs. Cottingham,
935
00:51:52,768 --> 00:51:54,527
This is not good."
936
00:51:54,645 --> 00:51:56,629
"oh, oh, no, no,
no, he's innocent,
937
00:51:56,656 --> 00:51:59,581
He's innocent."
"okay..."
938
00:51:59,583 --> 00:52:02,401
♪
939
00:52:02,519 --> 00:52:06,205
If cottingham's
mother dismissed...
940
00:52:06,323 --> 00:52:09,408
The things she's
learning that he did,
941
00:52:09,526 --> 00:52:11,685
She is already the
role model for
942
00:52:11,712 --> 00:52:14,930
His minimization
at what he did.
943
00:52:14,932 --> 00:52:18,359
If it doesn't matter to her,
and that's the woman
944
00:52:18,386 --> 00:52:23,681
Who raised him, it certainly
does not matter to him.
945
00:52:23,799 --> 00:52:25,774
If convicted on all counts,
946
00:52:25,776 --> 00:52:27,351
Cottingham faces
a maximum of
947
00:52:27,469 --> 00:52:31,689
274 years in prison,
plus life.
948
00:52:31,807 --> 00:52:35,434
And he still faces trial in
new york city for the murders
949
00:52:35,552 --> 00:52:38,437
And mutilations of two
midtown prostitutes.
950
00:52:38,555 --> 00:52:42,624
That trial comes after
this one's finished.
951
00:52:42,626 --> 00:52:44,717
The jury was not
out very long,
952
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,662
About a day and a half.
953
00:52:46,780 --> 00:52:49,381
The sentence he received
really ensured
954
00:52:49,383 --> 00:52:53,285
That he would never
see the light of day.
955
00:52:53,403 --> 00:52:56,596
After that, he was
taken over to new york,
956
00:52:56,598 --> 00:52:58,382
Where he was tried for
the homicides that
957
00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:00,642
He had committed in
new york city.
958
00:53:00,644 --> 00:53:05,981
♪
959
00:53:05,983 --> 00:53:08,967
By 1984,
richard cottingham is
960
00:53:09,086 --> 00:53:10,744
Sentenced to
five life sentences
961
00:53:10,771 --> 00:53:12,638
Between new york
and new jersey.
962
00:53:12,756 --> 00:53:14,990
♪
963
00:53:14,992 --> 00:53:17,693
Effectively put away for
the remainder of his days.
964
00:53:17,811 --> 00:53:22,114
♪
965
00:53:22,399 --> 00:53:27,336
♪
966
00:53:27,338 --> 00:53:29,871
Fast forward to 2004.
967
00:53:29,873 --> 00:53:32,041
I spent hundreds of hours
with him at the prison.
968
00:53:32,343 --> 00:53:37,696
♪
969
00:53:37,757 --> 00:53:39,531
I had these 12 cold cases.
970
00:53:39,592 --> 00:53:41,608
I thought he could be
good for some of them.
971
00:53:41,636 --> 00:53:44,419
And yet, I was just
making no progress.
972
00:53:44,538 --> 00:53:47,598
I tried everything
I could think of.
973
00:53:47,716 --> 00:53:49,967
Cottingham went to
catholic grammar school.
974
00:53:50,085 --> 00:53:53,028
I've tried to play the
religious theme on him
975
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:55,030
As well, knowing that he
had that background.
976
00:53:55,032 --> 00:53:57,507
Told him to cleanse his soul.
977
00:53:57,526 --> 00:53:59,610
This is another way
that he can...
978
00:53:59,728 --> 00:54:01,487
Kind of make peace with god.
979
00:54:28,665 --> 00:54:32,401
I've played that theme
over and over and over.
980
00:54:32,403 --> 00:54:34,419
Trying to draw an ounce of
empathy out of him
981
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,571
For the victims' families.
982
00:54:36,573 --> 00:54:37,889
♪
983
00:54:38,050 --> 00:54:39,707
The family members
have a tremendous
984
00:54:39,709 --> 00:54:41,668
Thirst for information.
It just never goes away.
985
00:54:41,696 --> 00:54:44,746
They want to know
what happened.
986
00:54:44,748 --> 00:54:46,581
Over the years
he would say,
987
00:54:46,583 --> 00:54:47,992
"why would I do that if it's
going to hurt me?"
988
00:55:09,773 --> 00:55:14,626
♪
989
00:55:14,645 --> 00:55:16,920
The three children were
obviously adults now.
990
00:55:16,939 --> 00:55:19,948
He claimed that he had
a sensitivity towards
991
00:55:19,950 --> 00:55:22,735
His children reading about
him in the newspaper.
992
00:55:44,884 --> 00:55:45,883
Every time you think
you're making progress
993
00:55:46,001 --> 00:55:47,642
With this guy he throws
another excuse on
994
00:55:47,644 --> 00:55:51,889
Why he's not willing to give
you what you need.
995
00:55:52,007 --> 00:55:54,016
Eventually he complained...
996
00:55:54,134 --> 00:55:56,000
He didn't like when I
visited him at the prison
997
00:55:56,162 --> 00:55:58,503
Because the other
inmates knew that
998
00:55:58,564 --> 00:55:59,971
He was getting pulled out.
999
00:56:00,090 --> 00:56:02,066
♪
1000
00:56:02,184 --> 00:56:03,734
It looks like he's a rat.
1001
00:56:18,692 --> 00:56:21,660
I thought for sure
at any given moment,
1002
00:56:21,778 --> 00:56:24,755
He's going to completely
tank on me and stop it.
1003
00:56:35,192 --> 00:56:37,935
♪
1004
00:56:38,053 --> 00:56:39,578
Early on, richard was
complaining that
1005
00:56:39,696 --> 00:56:42,364
I was visiting him
at the prison.
1006
00:56:42,366 --> 00:56:45,200
There's a process
in a prison, right.
1007
00:56:45,202 --> 00:56:47,510
Just because I'm a detective,
I didn't just get to walk in
1008
00:56:47,630 --> 00:56:49,204
The prison and go up to
his cell and be like,
1009
00:56:49,206 --> 00:56:50,280
"hey, richard,
how are you?"
1010
00:56:50,399 --> 00:56:52,950
They'd have to get guards
to bring him down so,
1011
00:56:53,068 --> 00:56:56,545
He would walk past
the prison population.
1012
00:56:56,547 --> 00:56:58,213
You know, it doesn't go
over well with the
1013
00:56:58,215 --> 00:57:00,549
Prison population, he's
cooperating with the police.
1014
00:57:00,551 --> 00:57:03,552
Even if all he's
telling on is himself.
1015
00:57:03,554 --> 00:57:05,220
He would have to
walk past the iceman,
1016
00:57:05,222 --> 00:57:07,131
And the iceman would
quietly chuckle to himself.
1017
00:57:07,249 --> 00:57:08,841
He knew exactly
where he was going.
1018
00:57:20,262 --> 00:57:22,237
He wanted me to get him
out of the prison and say,
1019
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:23,889
You know, "bring me up
to bergen county
1020
00:57:24,007 --> 00:57:26,241
Where these guys don't
see what I'm doing."
1021
00:57:26,243 --> 00:57:30,946
♪
1022
00:57:31,064 --> 00:57:33,824
It gave me an excuse to
bring him onto my home turf,
1023
00:57:33,942 --> 00:57:36,401
Where I can control
the visit better.
1024
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,829
♪
1025
00:57:38,947 --> 00:57:40,347
Just me and a partner
would go down, pick him up,
1026
00:57:40,374 --> 00:57:42,157
Drive him up to
bergen county,
1027
00:57:42,275 --> 00:57:44,409
Talk to him for hours,
drive him back.
1028
00:57:44,528 --> 00:57:48,446
♪
1029
00:57:48,507 --> 00:57:50,482
I would keep him overnight.
1030
00:57:50,484 --> 00:57:53,010
We put him in our
own cellblock.
1031
00:57:53,128 --> 00:57:54,603
♪
1032
00:57:54,605 --> 00:57:56,513
The next morning, pull him
out and start all over again.
1033
00:57:56,632 --> 00:57:58,440
Feed him an egg sandwich,
a cup of coffee,
1034
00:57:58,442 --> 00:58:01,943
And we'd go at it again.
1035
00:58:01,945 --> 00:58:04,930
It was just a total cat and
mouse game that we would play.
1036
00:58:05,048 --> 00:58:07,191
♪
1037
00:58:07,309 --> 00:58:10,068
Each of us was trying
to play the other.
1038
00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:44,152
There was no way to
talk about murders
1039
00:58:44,154 --> 00:58:45,896
All day long and...
1040
00:58:46,014 --> 00:58:48,065
Think I would get
anywhere with him.
1041
00:58:48,183 --> 00:58:50,158
If I was really going to
build trust with this guy,
1042
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,327
There had to be times where
he felt like, you know,
1043
00:58:52,329 --> 00:58:54,071
I was just being his friend...
1044
00:58:54,189 --> 00:58:56,498
As despicable and
disgusting as that is.
1045
00:58:56,500 --> 00:59:00,077
♪
1046
00:59:00,195 --> 00:59:03,505
We'd have him up and,
sometimes just play cards.
1047
00:59:03,507 --> 00:59:05,991
♪
1048
00:59:06,109 --> 00:59:07,342
I'd have six detectives
in my office,
1049
00:59:07,344 --> 00:59:09,177
And we'd sit around
and play poker,
1050
00:59:09,179 --> 00:59:11,380
After we were done
interrogating him for a day.
1051
00:59:11,498 --> 00:59:14,049
♪
1052
00:59:14,167 --> 00:59:17,502
Even though he's treating
him like a human...
1053
00:59:17,621 --> 00:59:20,430
He's an animal.
1054
00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:22,424
It's hard to sit down
with the devil and
1055
00:59:22,542 --> 00:59:24,810
Make believe
you're the same.
1056
00:59:25,128 --> 00:59:26,511
♪
1057
00:59:26,630 --> 00:59:28,605
He just kept putting obstacle
after obstacle in front of me
1058
00:59:28,724 --> 00:59:31,233
On why he wouldn't talk
about another case.
1059
00:59:48,076 --> 00:59:53,964
He's the type of offender
who trusts in language.
1060
00:59:54,082 --> 00:59:56,725
He thinks that if he
puts things into his
1061
00:59:56,727 --> 01:00:01,062
Own narrative,
he will control reality,
1062
01:00:01,064 --> 01:00:05,550
He will control what
his crimes mean.
1063
01:00:05,669 --> 01:00:09,621
You're dealing with a clever,
malignant narcissist.
1064
01:00:09,623 --> 01:00:12,332
Richard cottingham is
playing a game for,
1065
01:00:12,359 --> 01:00:14,501
"what can I get
out of this?"
1066
01:00:14,528 --> 01:00:16,094
So, he wanted
something back.
1067
01:00:16,155 --> 01:00:20,264
"what are you going
to do for me?"
1068
01:00:20,326 --> 01:00:22,751
There were a few staples
that richard always wanted,
1069
01:00:22,753 --> 01:00:24,235
And that kept him happy.
1070
01:00:24,354 --> 01:00:25,587
And they were
relatively simple,
1071
01:00:25,589 --> 01:00:27,589
So why not give
them to him?
1072
01:00:27,591 --> 01:00:30,308
♪
1073
01:00:30,310 --> 01:00:32,761
He loved pizza from a
certain pizza place.
1074
01:00:32,763 --> 01:00:35,205
I'd send detectives go
pick up a couple of pies.
1075
01:00:35,323 --> 01:00:37,432
He loved sausage and
extra cheese pizza.
1076
01:00:37,434 --> 01:00:39,283
♪
1077
01:00:39,303 --> 01:00:42,971
He liked donuts
from dunkin' donuts.
1078
01:00:43,090 --> 01:00:46,524
There were times he'd
ask for cheeseburgers.
1079
01:00:46,526 --> 01:00:50,128
If it starts with a deck
of cards, or a pizza,
1080
01:00:50,189 --> 01:00:53,231
It's almost like a trading,
a horse trading going on.
1081
01:00:55,385 --> 01:00:59,363
After I met his demands...
1082
01:00:59,481 --> 01:01:02,240
He began to
cooperate with me.
1083
01:01:37,185 --> 01:01:39,753
He began to open up
about the past.
1084
01:01:39,780 --> 01:01:42,497
This is where I would sense
the opening to be like,
1085
01:01:42,499 --> 01:01:45,349
Let me try and get
something from him.
1086
01:01:45,411 --> 01:01:47,819
We did one day get
to the point of
1087
01:01:47,937 --> 01:01:50,171
Doing what we call like a
'queen for a day',
1088
01:01:50,173 --> 01:01:52,523
Which is a proffer
agreement where we say,
1089
01:01:52,584 --> 01:01:54,525
"you're going to come in,
whatever you tell us today
1090
01:01:54,586 --> 01:01:56,086
Is not going to be
used against you
1091
01:01:56,204 --> 01:01:58,513
In a court of law."
1092
01:01:58,515 --> 01:02:00,090
During that
proffer session,
1093
01:02:00,208 --> 01:02:03,334
He gave a little
bit of detail...
1094
01:02:03,453 --> 01:02:08,356
That he killed a housewife
in October of 1967.
1095
01:02:08,358 --> 01:02:10,267
He said that he believed
that she had children.
1096
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,429
This was the break
I'd been waiting for.
1097
01:02:39,547 --> 01:02:41,631
♪
1098
01:02:41,750 --> 01:02:43,675
We're finally here.
We're finally at this moment.
1099
01:03:00,101 --> 01:03:06,990
♪
1100
01:03:07,108 --> 01:03:09,392
Of all the unsolved
homicides that
1101
01:03:09,411 --> 01:03:12,937
I had been looking at
involving young women...
1102
01:03:12,998 --> 01:03:17,400
Nancy vogel was really the
only one that had children.
1103
01:03:17,419 --> 01:03:20,428
So, it was just that little
tidbit that made me then
1104
01:03:20,430 --> 01:03:22,188
Go get the file,
look at it and
1105
01:03:22,216 --> 01:03:26,026
Really start studying the
vogel homicide.
1106
01:03:26,053 --> 01:03:27,602
Nancy vogel was
a 29-year-old
1107
01:03:27,604 --> 01:03:30,030
Married mother of two.
1108
01:03:30,057 --> 01:03:32,423
Her children were nine
and five years old.
1109
01:03:32,542 --> 01:03:35,443
♪
1110
01:03:35,445 --> 01:03:38,263
1967 was a, was a
different, different world.
1111
01:03:38,381 --> 01:03:45,436
♪
1112
01:03:45,555 --> 01:03:47,622
In little ferry,
we had a...
1113
01:03:47,624 --> 01:03:50,534
A typical italian setup-
the two-family house
1114
01:03:50,652 --> 01:03:53,111
With the finished basement
where everyone ate and my
1115
01:03:53,229 --> 01:03:55,446
Grandmother lived upstairs,
we lived in the middle.
1116
01:03:55,565 --> 01:03:57,982
♪
1117
01:03:58,001 --> 01:03:59,167
She was always happy,
1118
01:03:59,286 --> 01:04:00,318
She was always
doing things for us.
1119
01:04:00,379 --> 01:04:04,597
She always- you know,
she's the perfect mom.
1120
01:04:04,599 --> 01:04:06,541
We used to, every year,
go to wildwood and
1121
01:04:06,659 --> 01:04:08,293
Having fun on the beach.
1122
01:04:08,411 --> 01:04:10,762
Always laughing.
1123
01:04:11,047 --> 01:04:13,548
♪
1124
01:04:13,666 --> 01:04:17,227
And then, it was a day
or two before Halloween.
1125
01:04:17,345 --> 01:04:21,155
My life would change.
1126
01:04:21,157 --> 01:04:24,309
My sister went to my father
about 2, 3 o'clock
1127
01:04:24,427 --> 01:04:27,495
In the morning and said,
"mommy's not home."
1128
01:04:27,497 --> 01:04:31,908
♪
1129
01:04:32,027 --> 01:04:33,668
By the time I woke up,
it was, you know,
1130
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:36,321
8, 9 o'clock
in the morning.
1131
01:04:36,439 --> 01:04:39,507
People were at the house,
and it was frantic, chaos.
1132
01:04:39,509 --> 01:04:41,918
♪
1133
01:04:42,037 --> 01:04:44,087
My father and my uncle-
which is my mother's brother-
1134
01:04:44,205 --> 01:04:45,196
Went to the
police department.
1135
01:04:45,257 --> 01:04:46,998
They were driving around
town looking for her,
1136
01:04:47,116 --> 01:04:51,502
Calling friends and relatives
that she might have been with.
1137
01:04:51,621 --> 01:04:54,188
She was missing
for a day or two.
1138
01:04:54,190 --> 01:05:01,104
♪
1139
01:05:01,222 --> 01:05:04,365
I was in 6th grade,
and I came home
1140
01:05:04,367 --> 01:05:06,701
From catholic school
with my friend.
1141
01:05:06,703 --> 01:05:10,204
And there was a car over here
that did not look familiar.
1142
01:05:10,206 --> 01:05:13,241
And, we looked into the car,
and we saw something
1143
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,377
That looked like
a mannequin.
1144
01:05:16,379 --> 01:05:17,954
It was indeed
not a mannequin,
1145
01:05:18,073 --> 01:05:20,548
And it was a woman.
1146
01:05:20,550 --> 01:05:22,383
♪
1147
01:05:22,385 --> 01:05:24,102
She was wedged between the
1148
01:05:24,220 --> 01:05:27,130
Back of the front seat
and on the floor.
1149
01:05:27,248 --> 01:05:29,841
Her arms were tied,
and she was naked.
1150
01:05:30,226 --> 01:05:31,768
♪
1151
01:05:31,770 --> 01:05:35,079
So, we ran in the house
to call the police.
1152
01:05:35,098 --> 01:05:36,263
They're like,
"a dead body?"
1153
01:05:36,265 --> 01:05:37,415
I'm like, "yes, I think
there's a dead body
1154
01:05:37,476 --> 01:05:40,042
In the car in front
of my house."
1155
01:05:40,162 --> 01:05:42,053
They came immediately.
1156
01:05:42,213 --> 01:05:45,131
They dusted the
door for prints.
1157
01:05:45,292 --> 01:05:48,159
And, news people came, and
they were taking pictures.
1158
01:05:48,161 --> 01:05:51,287
♪
1159
01:05:51,405 --> 01:05:53,264
Neighbors from all over
the place were down,
1160
01:05:53,425 --> 01:05:56,234
Asking questions.
Nothing happened here, ever.
1161
01:05:56,352 --> 01:05:58,419
So, it was huge.
1162
01:05:58,421 --> 01:06:01,498
♪
1163
01:06:01,616 --> 01:06:04,258
So my grandmother
was making us lunch.
1164
01:06:04,260 --> 01:06:07,187
♪
1165
01:06:07,214 --> 01:06:08,413
And my sister
opens the door,
1166
01:06:08,531 --> 01:06:10,431
And it was the
newspaper, saying,
1167
01:06:10,433 --> 01:06:13,084
"now that you found out
that your mother's dead,
1168
01:06:13,202 --> 01:06:15,178
How do you feel about it?"
1169
01:06:15,296 --> 01:06:17,180
And my sister was
like, shocked.
1170
01:06:17,298 --> 01:06:18,748
And then, they came
into the house,
1171
01:06:18,767 --> 01:06:21,351
And they talked to my
grandmother, my nanny.
1172
01:06:21,469 --> 01:06:22,560
And, in italian,
1173
01:06:22,679 --> 01:06:25,129
She sent them to hell and
cursed them out.
1174
01:06:25,148 --> 01:06:27,223
♪
1175
01:06:27,341 --> 01:06:29,317
It was bad.
1176
01:06:29,436 --> 01:06:33,196
I just remember just watching
everybody yelling and crying
1177
01:06:33,314 --> 01:06:36,791
And not really
understanding it.
1178
01:06:36,793 --> 01:06:39,460
So, that's how we found out.
1179
01:06:39,462 --> 01:06:45,041
♪
1180
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,301
The cops, you know,
worked diligently
1181
01:06:47,303 --> 01:06:49,804
On the case
back in 1967.
1182
01:06:49,806 --> 01:06:51,397
Documentation of
what was done
1183
01:06:51,425 --> 01:06:53,474
Wasn't up to
today's standards.
1184
01:06:53,476 --> 01:06:55,810
And we find this a lot of
times in our cold case files,
1185
01:06:55,812 --> 01:06:58,238
That there's just not a lot
of information about
1186
01:06:58,265 --> 01:06:59,647
What was done,
and what,
1187
01:06:59,649 --> 01:07:01,632
What wasn't done.
You know,
1188
01:07:01,751 --> 01:07:05,486
♪
1189
01:07:05,488 --> 01:07:06,604
She left her house,
1190
01:07:06,723 --> 01:07:08,355
Telling her family
she was going to
1191
01:07:08,357 --> 01:07:12,660
The shopping center in
little ferry, new jersey.
1192
01:07:12,662 --> 01:07:14,145
Three days later,
her body was found
1193
01:07:14,263 --> 01:07:16,497
In the back seat
of her car...
1194
01:07:16,499 --> 01:07:19,734
On a side street in
ridgefield park, new jersey.
1195
01:07:19,852 --> 01:07:22,245
Raped, beaten,
and strangled.
1196
01:07:25,533 --> 01:07:28,526
In this case, we saw who
they were going after.
1197
01:07:28,587 --> 01:07:31,771
There was nothing obvious.
1198
01:07:31,798 --> 01:07:33,256
It was a big story
at the time,
1199
01:07:33,374 --> 01:07:37,427
And it also grew over time.
1200
01:07:37,545 --> 01:07:39,854
Cottingham was never
considered a suspect
1201
01:07:39,856 --> 01:07:41,372
In the murder of
nancy vogel,
1202
01:07:41,433 --> 01:07:46,186
Until he directed me
to that case.
1203
01:07:46,346 --> 01:07:49,263
When you solve a cold case,
you don't just simply
1204
01:07:49,382 --> 01:07:52,383
Take a person's
word that, "I did it."
1205
01:07:52,444 --> 01:07:55,703
There were quite a
few more details.
1206
01:07:55,705 --> 01:07:57,205
♪
1207
01:07:57,207 --> 01:07:59,557
She was acquainted with
richard cottingham.
1208
01:07:59,618 --> 01:08:02,410
Cottingham lived in
little ferry at the time.
1209
01:08:21,473 --> 01:08:24,540
In her own rambler vehicle,
there were brown
1210
01:08:24,559 --> 01:08:26,717
Shopping bags in the
back of the vehicle.
1211
01:08:26,836 --> 01:08:30,638
♪
1212
01:08:30,756 --> 01:08:34,742
There were relatively recent
purchases at the valley fair.
1213
01:08:34,744 --> 01:08:37,578
♪
1214
01:08:37,580 --> 01:08:39,489
We knew that there was a
1215
01:08:39,607 --> 01:08:42,583
Sexual overtone
to the crime,
1216
01:08:42,585 --> 01:08:44,452
That she had been strangled.
1217
01:09:13,382 --> 01:09:16,617
Here was that
independent proof,
1218
01:09:16,619 --> 01:09:19,570
Along with other things.
1219
01:09:19,572 --> 01:09:22,264
Despite the fact that he
pointed me in the direction
1220
01:09:22,284 --> 01:09:26,627
Of the nancy vogel case and
gave me some details that...
1221
01:09:26,629 --> 01:09:29,463
Convinced me he was
responsible for that murder,
1222
01:09:29,465 --> 01:09:32,617
He refused to give
the full confession.
1223
01:09:32,735 --> 01:09:34,785
It was such a game
of trying to be like,
1224
01:09:34,904 --> 01:09:37,563
Who is in control of this
relationship that we have?
1225
01:09:37,591 --> 01:09:40,341
He did not want to
give this confession.
1226
01:09:56,851 --> 01:09:58,651
Every time I thought we
were going to get there,
1227
01:09:58,811 --> 01:09:59,877
He would say,
1228
01:09:59,879 --> 01:10:01,587
"well, you didn't come
through with this for me.
1229
01:10:01,615 --> 01:10:03,497
What about the attorney
general's office?
1230
01:10:03,499 --> 01:10:04,665
How do I know that
they won't step in?
1231
01:10:04,667 --> 01:10:05,833
What if...
1232
01:10:05,835 --> 01:10:06,910
What if your boss leaves and
there's a new boss and
1233
01:10:07,028 --> 01:10:09,412
He says, 'no, I want
to charge the guy'?"
1234
01:10:09,530 --> 01:10:10,896
And, "how are you going
to prove to me that
1235
01:10:10,957 --> 01:10:13,433
You're going to keep it
out of the media?
1236
01:10:13,460 --> 01:10:14,659
What about the
family members,
1237
01:10:14,661 --> 01:10:15,526
When you tell the family?
1238
01:10:15,587 --> 01:10:17,545
What if they go
to the press?"
1239
01:10:17,664 --> 01:10:20,473
It was constantly
this back and forth
1240
01:10:20,475 --> 01:10:22,942
Like bickering between the
two of us over what the
1241
01:10:22,969 --> 01:10:25,595
"conditions" would
be of this confession.
1242
01:10:46,734 --> 01:10:49,710
I came through on my end
with all of his asks,
1243
01:10:49,712 --> 01:10:51,712
And it built up such a
level of trust,
1244
01:10:51,714 --> 01:10:52,730
And then finally
I was like,
1245
01:10:52,791 --> 01:10:54,432
"I'm not doing another
----ing thing for you
1246
01:10:54,459 --> 01:10:57,794
Until we get one."
1247
01:10:57,912 --> 01:11:01,555
And then finally,
back in 2010, one visit,
1248
01:11:01,557 --> 01:11:05,376
I just broke him down
and he agreed to confess.
1249
01:11:05,494 --> 01:11:07,728
♪
1250
01:11:07,730 --> 01:11:09,063
We're going on
the record.
1251
01:11:09,065 --> 01:11:11,599
I was literally...
1252
01:11:11,718 --> 01:11:13,718
----Ing in my pants.
1253
01:11:13,836 --> 01:11:16,587
♪
1254
01:11:16,648 --> 01:11:19,740
It's time to pay the piper.
1255
01:11:19,742 --> 01:11:23,411
I'm finally going to learn
how he killed this person,
1256
01:11:23,413 --> 01:11:24,862
In his own words.
1257
01:11:45,935 --> 01:11:47,768
It's now 2010.
1258
01:11:47,770 --> 01:11:50,363
I've spent the
last six years
1259
01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:52,440
Grinding away with this guy,
1260
01:11:52,442 --> 01:11:54,925
Trying to solve at
least one of these
1261
01:11:55,086 --> 01:11:57,503
12 cold cases that I have.
1262
01:11:57,564 --> 01:11:59,338
He balked and
balked and balked,
1263
01:11:59,399 --> 01:12:00,573
And then finally
I would say,
1264
01:12:00,575 --> 01:12:02,650
"we're doing it now.
We're doing it right now."
1265
01:12:02,769 --> 01:12:04,877
And I would flip the switch,
and be like,
1266
01:12:04,904 --> 01:12:06,529
"I've had enough,
let's go."
1267
01:12:46,020 --> 01:12:47,753
When I put the tape
recorder on the table,
1268
01:12:47,781 --> 01:12:50,664
He actually like, pushed his
chair back and began to sweat.
1269
01:12:50,666 --> 01:12:52,241
♪
1270
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:54,594
It was a visceral
reaction on his part...
1271
01:12:54,621 --> 01:12:57,488
Once we started going.
1272
01:12:57,606 --> 01:12:58,506
He looks like he's going to
1273
01:12:58,508 --> 01:13:00,600
Back down from
confessing to it.
1274
01:13:00,627 --> 01:13:03,769
He's shying away
from the recorder.
1275
01:13:03,797 --> 01:13:05,588
It's six years in the making.
1276
01:13:05,706 --> 01:13:08,091
And now, you know,
I'm praying that
1277
01:13:08,209 --> 01:13:10,927
He doesn't panic so much
that he shuts down.
1278
01:13:29,038 --> 01:13:30,704
I kind of had to bring him
back on track to
1279
01:13:30,706 --> 01:13:32,873
Make sure that he didn't
kind of, you know,
1280
01:13:32,875 --> 01:13:34,784
---- The bed on me and say,
"I don't want to do this."
1281
01:14:16,185 --> 01:14:18,511
He's very calm and
matter of fact,
1282
01:14:18,538 --> 01:14:21,681
And it's as if he has no
feelings about it whatsoever.
1283
01:14:21,708 --> 01:14:23,140
He doesn't seem to
have any remorse.
1284
01:14:23,168 --> 01:14:25,126
He doesn't seem
to have empathy.
1285
01:15:00,963 --> 01:15:03,055
So, to sit across
from somebody,
1286
01:15:03,082 --> 01:15:04,890
And hear them tell...
1287
01:15:04,918 --> 01:15:07,727
The story of a brutal rape
and murder as if it's
1288
01:15:07,754 --> 01:15:09,545
An everyday occurrence
in their life,
1289
01:15:09,664 --> 01:15:11,138
As if it's the same as me
telling you a story about
1290
01:15:11,256 --> 01:15:13,040
Going to the grocery store
and buying a gallon of milk,
1291
01:15:13,158 --> 01:15:15,051
Is, is disturbing.
1292
01:15:15,169 --> 01:15:19,931
♪
1293
01:15:51,947 --> 01:15:55,967
I didn't get him to confess
to that case until 2010.
1294
01:15:56,085 --> 01:15:59,595
Six frigging years later.
1295
01:15:59,714 --> 01:16:02,189
And in between there
was hundreds of hours.
1296
01:16:02,191 --> 01:16:05,101
And that's how obstinate the
guy could be and how stubborn.
1297
01:16:05,219 --> 01:16:09,697
♪
1298
01:16:09,699 --> 01:16:13,033
We talked to the family
after the confession.
1299
01:16:13,035 --> 01:16:15,795
I had bill and
his sister karen,
1300
01:16:15,822 --> 01:16:17,021
And some other
family members
1301
01:16:17,139 --> 01:16:19,965
Come into the
prosecutor's office.
1302
01:16:19,993 --> 01:16:22,451
We wanted the family
to hear it first.
1303
01:16:22,570 --> 01:16:26,046
Never, ever, ever have them
read it in a newspaper.
1304
01:16:26,048 --> 01:16:27,698
And because of
this type of a case,
1305
01:16:27,816 --> 01:16:31,294
We wanted to meet
them personally.
1306
01:16:31,412 --> 01:16:34,872
I didn't know who richard
cottingham was or anything.
1307
01:16:34,990 --> 01:16:37,300
Rob reaches over,
he goes, "bill,
1308
01:16:37,418 --> 01:16:39,969
Don't go home and google
richard cottingham.
1309
01:16:40,087 --> 01:16:43,764
Don't do that yet.
It's not the same thing."
1310
01:16:43,883 --> 01:16:45,825
♪
1311
01:16:45,852 --> 01:16:48,235
You're now able to answer
a lot of questions.
1312
01:16:48,237 --> 01:16:50,021
And sometimes I wonder...
1313
01:16:50,139 --> 01:16:53,816
Is it better sometimes to
have the questions unanswered?
1314
01:16:53,934 --> 01:16:55,893
Or to get the answers,
even though the
1315
01:16:56,011 --> 01:17:01,081
Answers themselves may
cause you more pain?
1316
01:17:01,083 --> 01:17:04,242
My mom was always
watching out over me.
1317
01:17:04,244 --> 01:17:07,012
And that's my biggest thing,
I really feel that
1318
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,333
She was taken
before her time.
1319
01:17:10,451 --> 01:17:12,259
And throughout the whole
thing, they just kept saying,
1320
01:17:12,261 --> 01:17:14,186
"you have to keep it quiet,
you have to keep it quiet.
1321
01:17:14,213 --> 01:17:16,172
You can't tell anybody."
and I agreed.
1322
01:17:16,290 --> 01:17:19,266
♪
1323
01:17:19,268 --> 01:17:22,269
Keeping quiet is a-
was hard.
1324
01:17:22,271 --> 01:17:24,196
Very, very hard.
1325
01:17:24,223 --> 01:17:25,789
♪
1326
01:17:25,850 --> 01:17:27,683
One of the reasons
why we want to
1327
01:17:27,802 --> 01:17:30,686
Honor cottingham's request,
as much as we don't
1328
01:17:30,805 --> 01:17:33,097
Want to honor anything
the man has to say,
1329
01:17:33,215 --> 01:17:36,283
Is we want to do this
for the next family,
1330
01:17:36,285 --> 01:17:38,786
For the next father,
for the next mother,
1331
01:17:38,788 --> 01:17:40,045
For the next sibling.
1332
01:17:40,073 --> 01:17:42,681
We want him to continue
to tell us things.
1333
01:17:42,842 --> 01:17:46,385
You always want to
solve these cold cases.
1334
01:17:46,412 --> 01:17:48,779
After getting that
first confession,
1335
01:17:48,897 --> 01:17:50,873
I was hoping that this
was finally the moment
1336
01:17:50,991 --> 01:17:53,042
That the dam would
break, and...
1337
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,787
He would open up
about other cases.
1338
01:17:56,905 --> 01:17:58,972
To get him to go to court
was really important to me,
1339
01:17:58,974 --> 01:18:01,825
It was important to me
for the victim's family.
1340
01:18:01,886 --> 01:18:03,068
This was the first one,
1341
01:18:03,096 --> 01:18:07,047
And I just wanted that
foundation laid.
1342
01:18:07,166 --> 01:18:09,141
And that took some time
and some convincing.
1343
01:18:09,301 --> 01:18:12,110
♪
1344
01:18:12,112 --> 01:18:14,079
Richard cottingham
was already serving
1345
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,339
Multiple life terms.
1346
01:18:16,359 --> 01:18:18,325
The plea deal was,
1347
01:18:18,327 --> 01:18:20,085
"you're going to get
another life term.
1348
01:18:20,113 --> 01:18:22,996
Nothing less.
A life for a life."
1349
01:18:22,998 --> 01:18:25,123
And he was
okay with that.
1350
01:18:25,125 --> 01:18:27,218
♪
1351
01:18:27,245 --> 01:18:29,945
You know, he just didn't
want to be in the public eye.
1352
01:18:30,063 --> 01:18:32,331
He didn't want his
kids to know
1353
01:18:32,491 --> 01:18:34,333
The real, true monster
that he was.
1354
01:18:58,450 --> 01:19:03,020
♪
1355
01:19:03,138 --> 01:19:04,280
I had to convince him that
1356
01:19:04,398 --> 01:19:05,781
We were not going to put
out a press release,
1357
01:19:05,900 --> 01:19:06,857
We weren't going
to make a big
1358
01:19:06,975 --> 01:19:09,042
Dog and pony show about it.
1359
01:19:09,044 --> 01:19:10,544
♪
1360
01:19:10,546 --> 01:19:14,306
The actual court date
was in August of 2010.
1361
01:19:14,333 --> 01:19:16,475
♪
1362
01:19:16,502 --> 01:19:19,378
In an effort to really keep it
out of the newspapers and,
1363
01:19:19,538 --> 01:19:23,390
And quiet,
we made it late in the day.
1364
01:19:23,392 --> 01:19:24,875
We can't keep the public out
1365
01:19:24,993 --> 01:19:26,218
Or we can't keep the
media out of the court,
1366
01:19:26,378 --> 01:19:29,154
But there was very, very
little likelihood that the
1367
01:19:29,182 --> 01:19:31,824
Press would be lurking
around the courthouse at say,
1368
01:19:31,851 --> 01:19:35,978
4:30, 5 o'clock
in the afternoon.
1369
01:19:36,096 --> 01:19:38,330
The only people that were
really in the court was the
1370
01:19:38,357 --> 01:19:41,241
Prosecutor, myself,
1371
01:19:41,243 --> 01:19:43,335
Some other
homicide detectives,
1372
01:19:43,362 --> 01:19:45,412
The vogel family...
1373
01:19:45,414 --> 01:19:48,340
Of course, cottingham,
his defense attorney,
1374
01:19:48,367 --> 01:19:50,659
And judge venezia.
1375
01:19:50,945 --> 01:19:53,012
♪
1376
01:19:53,039 --> 01:19:54,914
My role was simple.
1377
01:19:55,074 --> 01:19:58,751
I was asked to take a plea.
1378
01:19:58,911 --> 01:20:00,352
And I was told,
1379
01:20:00,379 --> 01:20:04,414
"we'd like to make this
short and sweet.
1380
01:20:04,533 --> 01:20:08,844
The plea,
sentence, done."
1381
01:20:08,963 --> 01:20:11,196
And did I do that?
For the most part, I did.
1382
01:20:11,224 --> 01:20:13,941
♪
1383
01:20:13,943 --> 01:20:17,202
Ah, it didn't exactly
go as planned.
1384
01:20:17,230 --> 01:20:21,023
Your conduct and
your history
1385
01:20:21,141 --> 01:20:23,984
Is beyond appalling.
1386
01:20:24,103 --> 01:20:26,019
♪
1387
01:20:26,138 --> 01:20:29,106
Judge venezia started
really hammering him.
1388
01:20:29,224 --> 01:20:31,408
It doesn't detract from the
fact that I think you are
1389
01:20:31,527 --> 01:20:34,378
An absolutely despicable
human being,
1390
01:20:34,380 --> 01:20:37,056
And I use that
word sparingly.
1391
01:20:37,083 --> 01:20:40,033
♪
1392
01:20:40,152 --> 01:20:42,260
I thought at any given
moment he's gonna say,
1393
01:20:42,262 --> 01:20:43,929
"you know what,
judge, I'm not guilty.
1394
01:20:43,931 --> 01:20:44,913
I didn't do this,"
1395
01:20:45,032 --> 01:20:47,900
Or somehow sabotage
the confession he gave.
1396
01:20:47,927 --> 01:20:49,902
I was waiting for him
to turn to me and say,
1397
01:20:49,929 --> 01:20:51,262
"I'm not doing this."
1398
01:20:59,655 --> 01:21:05,267
♪
1399
01:21:05,385 --> 01:21:06,643
So, we bring him into court
1400
01:21:06,803 --> 01:21:08,779
In front of judge
donald venezia.
1401
01:21:08,898 --> 01:21:11,565
♪
1402
01:21:11,683 --> 01:21:14,410
We explained it in no
uncertain terms that...
1403
01:21:14,528 --> 01:21:17,504
We were not looking for
fanfare in this thing.
1404
01:21:17,506 --> 01:21:20,507
We wanted to quietly give
closure to the family.
1405
01:21:20,509 --> 01:21:23,252
♪
1406
01:21:23,370 --> 01:21:26,847
We needed it just
quick and quiet.
1407
01:21:26,849 --> 01:21:28,832
♪
1408
01:21:28,951 --> 01:21:31,018
Bring him to the courtroom
at a set time that we had
1409
01:21:31,020 --> 01:21:34,430
Made arrangements for,
sentence him right there.
1410
01:21:34,548 --> 01:21:38,434
Everything was perfect.
1411
01:21:38,552 --> 01:21:41,028
They want to get it
over with, I get it.
1412
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:45,849
And I was told, "we'd like to
make this short and sweet."
1413
01:21:45,968 --> 01:21:50,720
♪
1414
01:21:50,781 --> 01:21:52,856
For the first time, I see
richard cottingham
1415
01:21:52,975 --> 01:21:54,708
Walking down the hallway.
1416
01:21:54,710 --> 01:21:56,285
♪
1417
01:21:56,403 --> 01:21:58,561
He looks like santa claus
with his long, long beard.
1418
01:21:58,623 --> 01:22:00,639
He's overweight and whatnot.
1419
01:22:00,666 --> 01:22:03,367
This is nothing
that I imagined.
1420
01:22:03,485 --> 01:22:04,567
So, you know,
as a little kid,
1421
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:05,644
You say your mother
was murdered,
1422
01:22:05,671 --> 01:22:09,373
You think it's like
a big monster, bad...
1423
01:22:09,491 --> 01:22:12,559
Ugly,
terrible person.
1424
01:22:12,561 --> 01:22:15,062
And here's...
He's nothing.
1425
01:22:15,064 --> 01:22:18,632
He's a shell of a man.
1426
01:22:18,750 --> 01:22:21,435
It was, you know, kind of
both exhilarating and
1427
01:22:21,553 --> 01:22:22,937
Frustrating all
at the same time.
1428
01:22:23,055 --> 01:22:25,088
It's hard to put into words.
1429
01:22:25,207 --> 01:22:27,382
The culmination of six
years' worth of work
1430
01:22:27,401 --> 01:22:30,402
Coming down to this.
1431
01:22:30,562 --> 01:22:32,796
I never thought that I'd
have the opportunity there,
1432
01:22:32,798 --> 01:22:36,316
Mr. Cottingham,
1433
01:22:36,435 --> 01:22:38,827
To really witness somebody
1434
01:22:38,946 --> 01:22:42,331
Who has the makeup
that you do.
1435
01:22:42,449 --> 01:22:45,926
Your conduct and
your history
1436
01:22:45,928 --> 01:22:48,445
Is beyond appalling.
1437
01:22:48,506 --> 01:22:49,579
And that, very frankly,
1438
01:22:49,698 --> 01:22:51,973
When you end up
wherever you end up,
1439
01:22:51,975 --> 01:22:55,477
I suggest you dress with
light clothes 'cause it's
1440
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:58,647
Usually pretty hot where
I think you're going.
1441
01:22:58,649 --> 01:23:00,982
In the middle of the
court proceeding,
1442
01:23:00,984 --> 01:23:02,926
The judge just
begins to berate him,
1443
01:23:03,045 --> 01:23:04,536
And I'm watching it
go south.
1444
01:23:04,563 --> 01:23:07,706
And I'm just like,
this is so ----ing bad.
1445
01:23:07,733 --> 01:23:11,018
I don't think I've ever
had the ability
1446
01:23:11,136 --> 01:23:14,438
Nor desire to ever, like...
1447
01:23:14,556 --> 01:23:18,458
Witness the devil
in my courtroom.
1448
01:23:18,460 --> 01:23:23,071
But I think I see him
today in you.
1449
01:23:23,190 --> 01:23:26,466
You see me in the row,
right behind him,
1450
01:23:26,468 --> 01:23:27,768
And I'm like literally
slumping down
1451
01:23:27,886 --> 01:23:30,921
With the, "oh, ----".
1452
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,640
It doesn't detract from the
fact that I think you are
1453
01:23:33,642 --> 01:23:36,610
An absolutely despicable
human being and
1454
01:23:36,612 --> 01:23:39,738
I use that word sparingly.
1455
01:23:39,765 --> 01:23:41,815
Very difficult to look
people in the eye,
1456
01:23:41,817 --> 01:23:43,058
Who lost a loved one,
1457
01:23:43,177 --> 01:23:45,802
Because of the outrageous
deed of somebody
1458
01:23:45,921 --> 01:23:47,971
Who's standing
twelve feet from you,
1459
01:23:48,090 --> 01:23:49,672
And twelve feet from them.
1460
01:23:49,734 --> 01:23:52,826
Whether you're a judge or not,
you're a human being.
1461
01:23:52,828 --> 01:23:56,813
♪
1462
01:23:56,932 --> 01:23:58,924
It wasn't, you know,
typically what you see
1463
01:23:58,951 --> 01:24:00,167
Out of a judge
in a courtroom,
1464
01:24:00,169 --> 01:24:01,577
But I think in this
particular case,
1465
01:24:01,695 --> 01:24:03,737
He needed to hear that.
1466
01:24:03,855 --> 01:24:05,522
♪
1467
01:24:05,583 --> 01:24:09,859
I'm glad he did that,
I'm glad he stood up.
1468
01:24:09,861 --> 01:24:12,529
Then, the judge literally
forced him to turn around and
1469
01:24:12,548 --> 01:24:15,624
Apologize to bill vogel
and his sister.
1470
01:24:15,742 --> 01:24:17,151
Why don't you turn
around and tell them,
1471
01:24:17,269 --> 01:24:19,595
'cause what's left of 'em are
in the audience over there.
1472
01:24:19,713 --> 01:24:22,172
Why don't you, why don't you
man up a little bit there?
1473
01:24:22,290 --> 01:24:24,725
I want you to look at them
in the eye and tell them.
1474
01:24:24,843 --> 01:24:27,027
Huh? How about that?
Why don't you do that?
1475
01:24:27,029 --> 01:24:30,030
I am very sorry for all
the pain I've caused you.
1476
01:24:30,148 --> 01:24:32,691
I really mean that.
1477
01:24:32,851 --> 01:24:35,718
His narrative is
reality to him,
1478
01:24:35,780 --> 01:24:39,873
And the judge in the
room punctures that...
1479
01:24:39,875 --> 01:24:43,877
Because he was helpless.
1480
01:24:43,879 --> 01:24:45,621
♪
1481
01:24:45,739 --> 01:24:47,714
When it was all over,
1482
01:24:47,716 --> 01:24:49,699
I escorted him out.
1483
01:24:49,818 --> 01:24:53,128
Cottingham stopped,
turned to me...
1484
01:24:53,247 --> 01:24:55,956
And says, "you will never get
me to ----ing do this again."
1485
01:24:56,074 --> 01:24:58,908
♪
1486
01:24:58,969 --> 01:25:00,803
Six years of work.
1487
01:25:00,921 --> 01:25:03,547
2004 to 2010.
1488
01:25:03,665 --> 01:25:06,550
I finally get him
to confess...
1489
01:25:06,668 --> 01:25:09,069
And I just lost
this guy forever.
1490
01:25:09,071 --> 01:25:11,788
♪
1491
01:25:11,790 --> 01:25:15,392
After cottingham confessed
to the murder of nancy vogel,
1492
01:25:15,510 --> 01:25:17,861
He told me that murder
was not his first.
1493
01:25:27,089 --> 01:25:28,664
It got my mind
thinking of...
1494
01:25:28,782 --> 01:25:30,499
How many could
be out there?
1495
01:25:30,617 --> 01:25:32,668
I'm convinced that he's good
for more than just
1496
01:25:32,786 --> 01:25:35,003
The one that he's
confessed to,
1497
01:25:35,122 --> 01:25:38,065
But I still have 11 of these
cases unsolved.
1498
01:25:38,183 --> 01:25:44,187
♪
1499
01:25:44,189 --> 01:25:46,956
She would have
fought for her life.
1500
01:25:47,017 --> 01:25:48,750
A rope was reportedly
tied around
1501
01:25:48,769 --> 01:25:50,251
One of the girls' necks.
1502
01:25:50,271 --> 01:25:53,254
There's this fear that
went through everybody.
1503
01:25:53,274 --> 01:25:55,865
She was just headed home.
1504
01:25:55,867 --> 01:25:57,860
Is there anything
more powerful than
1505
01:25:57,978 --> 01:26:00,954
Believing you are god?
1506
01:26:00,956 --> 01:26:03,215
Once he had them in the car...
1507
01:26:03,242 --> 01:26:05,108
They were his.
1508
01:26:05,227 --> 01:26:07,644
I was not done with him.
1509
01:26:07,763 --> 01:26:09,872
I'm not letting this
guy get away with it.
1510
01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:11,582
It was the game.
1511
01:26:11,700 --> 01:26:14,667
It was like the perfect
murder every time.
1512
01:26:14,669 --> 01:26:17,212
How am I ever going
to get back on track?
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