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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,181 --> 00:00:09,052 I see things. 2 00:00:09,096 --> 00:00:11,185 And I sense things that hadn't happened yet. 3 00:00:12,882 --> 00:00:14,362 The most difficult thing 4 00:00:14,405 --> 00:00:17,191 about being psychic is speaking it. 5 00:00:19,106 --> 00:00:22,022 We all have this second sense, but we don't act on it. 6 00:00:30,943 --> 00:00:32,399 When you talk about psychic horror movies, 7 00:00:32,423 --> 00:00:34,263 a lot of them are gonna come from Stephen King. 8 00:00:35,035 --> 00:00:38,081 - No! - What about room 237? 9 00:00:42,129 --> 00:00:45,088 When people talk about exploding heads in cinema, 10 00:00:45,132 --> 00:00:46,698 they usually go straight 11 00:00:46,742 --> 00:00:48,657 to David Cronenberg's "Scanners." 12 00:00:51,312 --> 00:00:52,922 When you see "Scanners," it's like, 13 00:00:52,965 --> 00:00:54,880 "Oh, yeah, well, it's good." 14 00:00:56,665 --> 00:00:58,797 But if you've seen "The Fury," 15 00:00:58,841 --> 00:01:00,712 it's not John Cassavetes being blown up 16 00:01:00,756 --> 00:01:03,933 from head to toe in slow motion good. 17 00:01:07,284 --> 00:01:08,459 It's showtime. 18 00:01:10,113 --> 00:01:11,549 I've always been drawn 19 00:01:11,593 --> 00:01:13,421 to the idea of psychic phenomenon. 20 00:01:13,464 --> 00:01:15,466 I always wished that I could be psychic. 21 00:01:17,555 --> 00:01:20,993 We study the phenomena of extra sensory perception. 22 00:01:21,037 --> 00:01:24,475 We're enticed by the idea that we could be 23 00:01:24,519 --> 00:01:26,216 so much more powerful 24 00:01:26,260 --> 00:01:29,132 if only we could read other people's minds. 25 00:01:29,176 --> 00:01:30,176 She's alive. 26 00:01:32,614 --> 00:01:35,095 But in fact, not being able to shut out 27 00:01:35,138 --> 00:01:37,967 other people's thoughts sounds pretty terrifying. 28 00:02:08,215 --> 00:02:11,870 My granny told me that I... I had a gift. 29 00:02:11,914 --> 00:02:13,194 Male Who wasn't dreamed 30 00:02:13,220 --> 00:02:14,525 of having psychic powers? 31 00:02:14,569 --> 00:02:16,353 Tell me what I'm thinking. 32 00:02:19,530 --> 00:02:21,793 The ability to read someone's thoughts... 33 00:02:21,837 --> 00:02:23,423 You're wondering why I'm wearing such a funny hat. 34 00:02:23,447 --> 00:02:26,102 How'd you like some ice cream, Doc? 35 00:02:26,146 --> 00:02:28,452 See into the future... 36 00:02:30,454 --> 00:02:31,977 Talk to the dead... 37 00:02:32,021 --> 00:02:34,023 They haven't found us yet. 38 00:02:34,066 --> 00:02:35,346 Light things on fire... 39 00:02:38,854 --> 00:02:40,203 Or move objects with your mind. 40 00:02:44,033 --> 00:02:46,601 Horror stories bring these fantasies to life. 41 00:02:48,385 --> 00:02:49,908 And show how quickly 42 00:02:49,952 --> 00:02:52,215 a blessing can turn into a curse. 43 00:02:55,566 --> 00:02:58,003 Since his first novel, "Carrie," 44 00:02:58,047 --> 00:03:01,833 Stephen King and psychics have gone hand in hand. 45 00:03:15,891 --> 00:03:17,588 King's third novel, 46 00:03:17,632 --> 00:03:20,548 "The Shining," was the story of an alcoholic writer... 47 00:03:20,591 --> 00:03:22,419 Here's Johnny! 48 00:03:22,463 --> 00:03:25,030 His wife, and their young son, Danny, 49 00:03:25,074 --> 00:03:27,032 who's a powerful psychic. 50 00:03:27,076 --> 00:03:30,253 Danny's not here, Mrs. Torrance. 51 00:03:30,297 --> 00:03:32,647 In "The Shining," Danny has no idea 52 00:03:32,690 --> 00:03:34,866 how to control the shining or what it does. 53 00:03:34,910 --> 00:03:37,042 He's just sort of, you know, a victim of it, 54 00:03:37,086 --> 00:03:39,654 and he uses this sort of Tony avatar 55 00:03:39,697 --> 00:03:41,569 as a conduit for it. 56 00:03:41,612 --> 00:03:43,092 Tony, tell me. 57 00:03:47,488 --> 00:03:51,056 This is one of King's most personal stories, 58 00:03:51,100 --> 00:03:52,623 drawn from his fear that his drinking 59 00:03:52,667 --> 00:03:54,277 would destroy his family. 60 00:03:54,321 --> 00:03:57,672 You've got a big surprise coming to you. 61 00:03:57,715 --> 00:03:59,456 Stanley Kubrick's 62 00:03:59,500 --> 00:04:02,677 film adaptation is justifiably famous, 63 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,722 but King was not pleased 64 00:04:04,766 --> 00:04:07,072 the director changed his redemptive ending 65 00:04:07,116 --> 00:04:10,293 into a nihilistic sigh of despair. 66 00:04:14,341 --> 00:04:16,081 It's a gorgeous film to look at. 67 00:04:16,125 --> 00:04:18,867 Absolutely gorgeous. The soundtrack is gorgeous. 68 00:04:18,910 --> 00:04:21,304 I can enjoy it on the same level 69 00:04:21,348 --> 00:04:23,698 that you could enjoy a beautifully restored Cadillac 70 00:04:23,741 --> 00:04:25,090 without a motor in it. 71 00:04:29,573 --> 00:04:32,533 In 2013, King surprised the world 72 00:04:32,576 --> 00:04:33,925 with a sequel to "The Shining"... 73 00:04:35,927 --> 00:04:38,321 His novel, "Doctor Sleep." 74 00:04:46,242 --> 00:04:47,350 Writer/director Mike Flanagan 75 00:04:47,374 --> 00:04:49,332 took on the daunting task 76 00:04:49,376 --> 00:04:52,553 of turning "Doctor Sleep" into a feature film. 77 00:04:52,596 --> 00:04:54,424 He did sort of a neat trick 78 00:04:54,468 --> 00:04:57,645 of making the movie "Doctor Sleep"... 79 00:05:01,126 --> 00:05:03,868 A sequel to both the Kubrick picture 80 00:05:03,912 --> 00:05:06,436 and my dad's novel, 81 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,787 which is not easy to do since the Kubrick film 82 00:05:09,831 --> 00:05:12,312 and the Stephen King novel... 83 00:05:15,184 --> 00:05:17,665 Are really fundamentally different stories. 84 00:05:18,796 --> 00:05:20,189 When I was a kid, 85 00:05:20,232 --> 00:05:21,843 I didn't understand the shining. 86 00:05:21,886 --> 00:05:23,366 I called it Tony. 87 00:05:26,108 --> 00:05:29,372 "Doctor Sleep" is about Dan Torrance, 88 00:05:29,416 --> 00:05:32,201 the little boy from "The Shining," now grown up 89 00:05:32,244 --> 00:05:34,943 wrestling with his own alcoholism, 90 00:05:34,986 --> 00:05:36,336 his own propensity for violence... 91 00:05:40,252 --> 00:05:42,907 Kind of wandering through the world by himself, 92 00:05:42,951 --> 00:05:47,085 doing everything he can to suppress the shining, 93 00:05:47,129 --> 00:05:51,176 to suppress that incredible ability 94 00:05:51,220 --> 00:05:52,830 that was so strong with him as a child 95 00:05:52,874 --> 00:05:56,530 that it attracted the attention of the Overlook Hotel 96 00:05:56,573 --> 00:05:58,401 and destroyed his family. 97 00:06:01,273 --> 00:06:03,406 If you had that power, it would up 98 00:06:03,450 --> 00:06:07,149 your life because it would just be a constant barrage of noise 99 00:06:07,192 --> 00:06:09,760 that you could not stop. 100 00:06:09,804 --> 00:06:12,502 I need help. 101 00:06:12,546 --> 00:06:14,112 After hitting bottom, Dan, 102 00:06:14,156 --> 00:06:16,071 played by Ewan McGregor, 103 00:06:16,114 --> 00:06:19,422 gets sober and rebuilds his life. 104 00:06:19,466 --> 00:06:23,426 King is very upfront in saying that "The Shining" 105 00:06:23,470 --> 00:06:25,602 was a book about alcoholism. 106 00:06:25,646 --> 00:06:30,041 Here's to five miserable months on the wagon. 107 00:06:30,085 --> 00:06:32,957 And it was alcoholism that he experienced 108 00:06:33,001 --> 00:06:35,003 and was experiencing at the time 109 00:06:35,046 --> 00:06:37,048 he wrote the book itself. 110 00:06:37,092 --> 00:06:40,051 And "Doctor Sleep" is about recovery. 111 00:06:40,095 --> 00:06:41,836 I told you. I'm not a doctor. 112 00:06:41,879 --> 00:06:45,883 Oh, I think you are. Doctor Sleep. 113 00:06:45,927 --> 00:06:47,450 The title, "Doctor Sleep," 114 00:06:47,494 --> 00:06:50,453 is really kind of beautiful actually in its meaning. 115 00:06:50,497 --> 00:06:54,065 Dan works as an orderly in a hospice 116 00:06:54,109 --> 00:06:56,633 and realizes that, while he doesn't use 117 00:06:56,677 --> 00:06:58,983 his shining abilities anymore, 118 00:06:59,027 --> 00:07:02,465 he can use them to help bring comfort to people 119 00:07:02,509 --> 00:07:05,425 who are dying in the last moments of their life. 120 00:07:05,468 --> 00:07:08,645 Doc, I am so scared it's gonna hurt or be dark 121 00:07:08,689 --> 00:07:12,301 or be nothing at all. And I don't want... 122 00:07:12,344 --> 00:07:16,436 Nothing to be scared of. Just going to sleep. 123 00:07:16,479 --> 00:07:19,047 You know, they say we all need help coming into the world 124 00:07:19,090 --> 00:07:21,005 and help going out of the world, 125 00:07:21,049 --> 00:07:22,877 and there's something really beautiful 126 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,488 that someone that tortured takes his gifts 127 00:07:25,532 --> 00:07:29,013 and use it to help people ease into whatever happens next. 128 00:07:30,058 --> 00:07:31,886 Hi. 129 00:07:31,929 --> 00:07:33,496 Dan meets Abra, 130 00:07:33,540 --> 00:07:35,280 a child with even stronger 131 00:07:35,324 --> 00:07:37,326 psychic abilities than his own. 132 00:07:40,721 --> 00:07:42,679 As in many King stories, 133 00:07:42,723 --> 00:07:46,335 Abra's gift is a metaphor for being smart, sensitive, 134 00:07:46,378 --> 00:07:49,643 and empathetic in a world filled with amoral predators. 135 00:07:49,686 --> 00:07:52,515 Well, hi there. 136 00:07:52,559 --> 00:07:56,693 The threat to Abra are actually a group 137 00:07:56,737 --> 00:08:00,784 of just, I mean, classic Stephen King antagonists 138 00:08:00,828 --> 00:08:03,091 called the True Knot. 139 00:08:03,134 --> 00:08:06,660 We are the True Knot. We are the chosen ones. 140 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:11,708 They are these quasi-immortal beings... 141 00:08:13,797 --> 00:08:16,104 Who literally feed 142 00:08:16,147 --> 00:08:19,934 on the life force of these special children, 143 00:08:19,977 --> 00:08:21,544 children with the shining. 144 00:08:27,550 --> 00:08:29,465 Dan realizes that using his powers 145 00:08:29,509 --> 00:08:31,902 and facing his past may be the only thing 146 00:08:31,946 --> 00:08:33,730 that can stop the death cult. 147 00:08:35,776 --> 00:08:37,429 Doesn't matter if he hates himself, 148 00:08:37,473 --> 00:08:39,562 doesn't matter if he wants the shining or not, 149 00:08:39,606 --> 00:08:42,478 like, he has to step up. He doesn't have a choice, 150 00:08:42,522 --> 00:08:43,740 He has to suck it up 151 00:08:43,784 --> 00:08:45,568 and be there for this little girl. 152 00:08:50,834 --> 00:08:52,923 In a King-approved change from the book... 153 00:08:54,708 --> 00:08:56,797 Dan lures the leader of the True Knot 154 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:58,581 back to the Overlook Hotel... 155 00:09:01,715 --> 00:09:03,717 Hoping its ghosts will devour her. 156 00:09:14,205 --> 00:09:16,207 This is where Dan confronts his past 157 00:09:16,251 --> 00:09:18,427 and the filmmakers confront 158 00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:20,603 the looming ghost of Stanley Kubrick. 159 00:09:24,433 --> 00:09:26,391 The Overlook had aged, 160 00:09:26,435 --> 00:09:29,612 and throughout that journey 161 00:09:29,656 --> 00:09:32,136 into the Overlook in "Doctor Sleep," 162 00:09:32,180 --> 00:09:33,964 it comes back to life... 163 00:09:37,489 --> 00:09:39,753 So as he's walking through, 164 00:09:39,796 --> 00:09:42,799 we go from darkness to this warm light 165 00:09:42,843 --> 00:09:45,454 as the filaments start to glow again, 166 00:09:45,497 --> 00:09:49,197 and we're almost back to a Kubrick version of it 167 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,720 at that point where the color 168 00:09:50,764 --> 00:09:52,330 of the space is given back to us 169 00:09:52,374 --> 00:09:53,549 for just a brief moment 170 00:09:53,593 --> 00:09:57,945 before Dan does what Jack does 171 00:09:57,988 --> 00:09:59,555 in the original "Shining" novel, 172 00:09:59,599 --> 00:10:02,689 which is to sacrifice himself 173 00:10:02,732 --> 00:10:04,604 for the child. 174 00:10:07,998 --> 00:10:10,392 In the end, the film pays homage 175 00:10:10,435 --> 00:10:13,874 to Kubrick's unforgettable imagery, 176 00:10:13,917 --> 00:10:17,660 but restores King's original intent for the story. 177 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:21,684 Really, if you take "The Shining" 178 00:10:21,708 --> 00:10:23,535 and "Doctor Sleep" together, 179 00:10:23,579 --> 00:10:27,496 the cycle of addiction and recovery and alcoholism, 180 00:10:27,539 --> 00:10:28,865 that's the story that's being told. 181 00:10:32,893 --> 00:10:35,591 And that's where "Doctor Sleep" 182 00:10:35,635 --> 00:10:37,680 doesn't feel like a sequel to me. 183 00:10:37,724 --> 00:10:40,509 It feels like the conclusion of one long conversation. 184 00:10:47,734 --> 00:10:49,886 You might think being psychic in a small town 185 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:51,520 wouldn't be very dramatic. 186 00:10:56,525 --> 00:10:59,267 Unless you have the gift. 187 00:11:06,317 --> 00:11:09,712 Male One of the most beautifully crafted 188 00:11:09,756 --> 00:11:12,019 psychic films ever made isn't widely known today. 189 00:11:12,062 --> 00:11:14,499 It's time for a reappraisal. 190 00:11:23,770 --> 00:11:26,468 "The Gift" has an amazing pedigree. 191 00:11:26,511 --> 00:11:29,123 Directed by Sam Raimi from a script 192 00:11:29,166 --> 00:11:32,909 by Billy Bob Thornton and Tom Epperson, 193 00:11:32,953 --> 00:11:36,521 starring an A-list cast led by one of the greatest actors 194 00:11:36,565 --> 00:11:40,351 of her generation, Cate Blanchett. 195 00:11:40,395 --> 00:11:41,459 I remember the first time we met, 196 00:11:41,483 --> 00:11:42,721 you told me you loved "Evil Dead." 197 00:11:42,745 --> 00:11:44,181 Yes. 198 00:11:44,225 --> 00:11:45,332 And that you grew up on horror movies. 199 00:11:45,356 --> 00:11:47,184 So you are... You are a horror fan. 200 00:11:47,228 --> 00:11:48,292 Was that what made you want 201 00:11:48,316 --> 00:11:49,883 to work with Raimi on "The Gift?" 202 00:11:49,926 --> 00:11:51,766 When I knew Sam was on board, I just thought, 203 00:11:51,798 --> 00:11:54,104 oh, my God, to work with... I can't... 204 00:11:54,148 --> 00:11:55,366 Well, yes, of course. 205 00:11:57,020 --> 00:11:59,457 You know, the story revolves around a woman 206 00:11:59,501 --> 00:12:01,155 who's lost her husband, 207 00:12:01,198 --> 00:12:02,765 who's in a profound state of grief, 208 00:12:02,809 --> 00:12:05,333 and she's earning a living as a psychic. 209 00:12:06,943 --> 00:12:10,207 Your daddy, he took things away from you 210 00:12:10,251 --> 00:12:12,601 when you were a little boy. 211 00:12:14,429 --> 00:12:17,388 "The Gift" is set in a small Georgia town 212 00:12:17,432 --> 00:12:18,781 filled with secrets. 213 00:12:20,957 --> 00:12:23,525 Few worse than the one haunting the character 214 00:12:23,568 --> 00:12:26,789 played by Giovanni Ribisi who is repressing his memories 215 00:12:26,833 --> 00:12:29,400 of childhood sexual abuse. 216 00:12:29,444 --> 00:12:31,098 Why don't you tell me why I hate him? 217 00:12:31,141 --> 00:12:33,013 You're the damn psychic. 218 00:12:33,056 --> 00:12:36,190 Buddy, you know, is definitely disturbed, 219 00:12:36,233 --> 00:12:40,063 and throughout the film is struggling with, 220 00:12:40,107 --> 00:12:42,196 I guess, his own past 221 00:12:42,239 --> 00:12:43,632 that he doesn't want to look at, 222 00:12:43,675 --> 00:12:45,808 that perhaps maybe she sees. 223 00:12:45,852 --> 00:12:48,332 You think about these things in your childhood home, 224 00:12:48,376 --> 00:12:50,726 and you face up to them. 225 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:52,249 She has this gift, 226 00:12:52,293 --> 00:12:55,818 and I think that there's irony in that title 227 00:12:55,862 --> 00:12:59,213 because I think it's more of a burden than anything. 228 00:13:00,867 --> 00:13:02,912 Think it's fun seeing decomposing bodies 229 00:13:02,956 --> 00:13:05,785 in my tree daily, sir? You think that's fun? 230 00:13:05,828 --> 00:13:07,656 And she's having these visions 231 00:13:07,699 --> 00:13:10,833 that are usually of a horrific nature. 232 00:13:14,097 --> 00:13:16,447 And the things that she's able to see, 233 00:13:16,491 --> 00:13:19,276 you know, are really the skeletons 234 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,671 that all these characters keep in their closet. 235 00:13:27,894 --> 00:13:30,244 So she starts getting these premonitions of a murder 236 00:13:30,287 --> 00:13:31,636 that actually does occur, 237 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:33,160 and she doesn't really quite know who 238 00:13:33,203 --> 00:13:34,398 because the visions aren't quite clear. 239 00:13:34,422 --> 00:13:35,858 She can't see who the killer is, 240 00:13:35,902 --> 00:13:37,009 but she knows enough to get her into trouble. 241 00:13:40,123 --> 00:13:44,084 So the movie really becomes a psychic detective film. 242 00:13:44,127 --> 00:13:46,260 You saw all this in a dream? 243 00:13:46,303 --> 00:13:48,044 It wasn't just a dream. 244 00:13:48,088 --> 00:13:50,046 I don't investigate somebody's dream. 245 00:13:53,702 --> 00:13:56,618 I think she's dead, Sheriff. 246 00:13:56,661 --> 00:13:59,186 You know, there is a rape and murder that takes place 247 00:13:59,229 --> 00:14:02,450 at the heart of this movie, but it's teased out 248 00:14:02,493 --> 00:14:05,279 in such a suspenseful and careful 249 00:14:05,322 --> 00:14:09,196 and intelligent way that it's incredibly powerful, 250 00:14:09,239 --> 00:14:11,285 and it's through these visions 251 00:14:11,328 --> 00:14:14,897 that tantalize Cate Blanchett's character as well. 252 00:14:14,941 --> 00:14:17,117 She doesn't see everything at once, 253 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,511 but she carries the burden of seeing things 254 00:14:20,555 --> 00:14:22,383 that she should never have seen. 255 00:14:22,426 --> 00:14:23,688 Get out! 256 00:14:28,476 --> 00:14:31,044 Boy, I asked you a question. 257 00:14:31,087 --> 00:14:32,935 But the most frightening thing in the film 258 00:14:32,959 --> 00:14:36,484 may be the violent trucker played by Keanu Reeves. 259 00:14:39,139 --> 00:14:41,619 Messing with the devil is going to get you burned. 260 00:14:41,663 --> 00:14:43,317 It's a brutal portrait 261 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,058 of domestic violence. 262 00:14:45,101 --> 00:14:46,929 Keanu is terrifying. 263 00:14:46,973 --> 00:14:48,124 Like, you actually feel your guts kind of seize up 264 00:14:48,148 --> 00:14:49,758 every time he comes up on camera. 265 00:14:49,801 --> 00:14:50,715 You're just like, "Oh, God, not him again," you know? 266 00:14:50,759 --> 00:14:53,240 - Annie! - Annie, it's him. 267 00:14:53,283 --> 00:14:54,937 - No, calm down. - No! 268 00:14:54,981 --> 00:14:56,393 - I'll call the law. - No, Annie, no! 269 00:14:56,417 --> 00:14:58,217 That one shot where Keanu grabs Hilary Swank 270 00:14:58,245 --> 00:14:59,899 and drags her away. 271 00:14:59,942 --> 00:15:02,553 I'll handle you later on, you bitch. 272 00:15:04,773 --> 00:15:06,949 Get your ass in the truck. 273 00:15:08,516 --> 00:15:10,102 I mean, we had no money making that film, 274 00:15:10,126 --> 00:15:11,321 and they were about to pull the plug on the day. 275 00:15:11,345 --> 00:15:12,955 Keanu was on the outside. 276 00:15:12,999 --> 00:15:15,088 He had to storm through a room full of people, 277 00:15:15,131 --> 00:15:17,438 and I was in the out room doing a reading, 278 00:15:17,481 --> 00:15:18,656 and he had one take. 279 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:21,007 - No, no! - Damn it! 280 00:15:21,050 --> 00:15:22,791 Let her go! 281 00:15:22,834 --> 00:15:25,576 Come here! 282 00:15:27,883 --> 00:15:29,803 That was his ability that everybody is on the... 283 00:15:29,841 --> 00:15:31,191 Everyone's on board. 284 00:15:31,234 --> 00:15:32,975 Everyone understands the shot 285 00:15:33,019 --> 00:15:36,152 that he's trying to get, so we luckily got it in one, 286 00:15:36,196 --> 00:15:37,893 otherwise it wouldn't be in the film. 287 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:39,416 At its heart, 288 00:15:39,460 --> 00:15:41,505 "The Gift" is an unflinching study 289 00:15:41,549 --> 00:15:43,986 of the psychic scars trauma and abuse 290 00:15:44,030 --> 00:15:45,596 leave on a community. 291 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,381 Those scars may not be visible, 292 00:15:47,424 --> 00:15:48,991 but they're always there. 293 00:15:52,603 --> 00:15:54,170 But I think that's what I really love 294 00:15:54,214 --> 00:15:56,781 about "horror," 295 00:15:56,825 --> 00:15:59,436 is that there's no sentimentality, 296 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:02,613 and so if you'd looked at that story, you know, 297 00:16:02,657 --> 00:16:03,982 there's another way we could've turned it, 298 00:16:04,006 --> 00:16:05,834 and it could've been quite sentimental, 299 00:16:05,877 --> 00:16:08,228 but there's something about Sam's perspective on stuff 300 00:16:08,271 --> 00:16:10,839 and putting the notion of genre within that story 301 00:16:10,882 --> 00:16:12,710 that allows you to kind of Trojan horse 302 00:16:12,754 --> 00:16:16,192 this really quite painful family drama 303 00:16:16,236 --> 00:16:19,935 without it ever veering off into sort of mawkish territory, 304 00:16:19,979 --> 00:16:21,371 which I think is great. 305 00:16:24,722 --> 00:16:27,160 Psychics are, by nature, sensitive. 306 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:30,032 No! 307 00:16:31,686 --> 00:16:33,862 But some... are explosive. 308 00:16:45,700 --> 00:16:48,616 Now, I'd like you to think of something specific, 309 00:16:48,659 --> 00:16:50,879 something personal perhaps. 310 00:16:50,922 --> 00:16:53,142 All right. I guess I have something. 311 00:16:53,186 --> 00:16:55,066 Do I have to close my eyes? It doesn't matter. 312 00:16:56,450 --> 00:16:58,756 Male It's one of the most iconic scenes 313 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,063 in horror history. 314 00:17:09,811 --> 00:17:12,509 The mind-blowing telepathic assassination 315 00:17:12,553 --> 00:17:15,034 that opens David Cronenberg's "Scanners." 316 00:17:19,299 --> 00:17:20,909 I remember watching "Scanners" 317 00:17:20,952 --> 00:17:22,452 at my friend's house, and we were eating pizza, 318 00:17:22,476 --> 00:17:24,391 and my friend threw up, 319 00:17:24,434 --> 00:17:26,088 and he didn't, like, run to the bathroom. 320 00:17:26,132 --> 00:17:28,332 It was the guy's head blew up, and he just went "blech." 321 00:17:29,918 --> 00:17:32,703 I know you're not what you say you are. 322 00:17:34,836 --> 00:17:36,838 Freak of nature, 323 00:17:36,881 --> 00:17:40,233 born with a certain form of ESP. 324 00:17:42,278 --> 00:17:44,280 "Scanners" is about a war 325 00:17:44,324 --> 00:17:46,369 between rival telepaths... 326 00:17:49,372 --> 00:17:50,939 The super-powered children 327 00:17:50,982 --> 00:17:52,723 of women given an experimental drug 328 00:17:52,767 --> 00:17:54,943 during pregnancy. 329 00:17:54,986 --> 00:17:56,486 His children turned out to be difficult. 330 00:17:58,338 --> 00:18:00,035 You're a scanner. 331 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:02,255 That can be a source of great power. 332 00:18:02,298 --> 00:18:03,821 To some scanners, 333 00:18:03,865 --> 00:18:05,736 telepathic powers are a gift. 334 00:18:08,043 --> 00:18:09,914 To others, they're a curse. 335 00:18:11,394 --> 00:18:14,049 The film's strangely detached protagonist 336 00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:16,138 is one of the cursed. 337 00:18:16,182 --> 00:18:18,053 He's asked to track down the leader 338 00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:19,533 of a scanner rebellion. 339 00:18:19,576 --> 00:18:24,146 In many ways, Cameron, he's your enemy. 340 00:18:24,190 --> 00:18:27,280 He discovers it's his long-lost brother, 341 00:18:27,323 --> 00:18:28,977 a powerful telepath 342 00:18:29,020 --> 00:18:30,935 with a tenuous grasp on sanity. 343 00:18:34,939 --> 00:18:37,377 This is a picture full of chilly, 344 00:18:37,420 --> 00:18:41,555 unfeeling, remote psychics, 345 00:18:41,598 --> 00:18:44,471 and among all of them, there is a serial killer 346 00:18:44,514 --> 00:18:46,995 and sociopath played by Michael Ironside 347 00:18:47,038 --> 00:18:51,173 who is the most identifiably human of all of them 348 00:18:51,217 --> 00:18:53,610 because at least he feels things 349 00:18:53,654 --> 00:18:58,093 like resentment, rage, victory. 350 00:18:58,137 --> 00:18:59,790 You're not listening to me. 351 00:19:03,664 --> 00:19:05,579 You're not cooperating, Cam. 352 00:19:05,622 --> 00:19:07,189 And so it's strange 353 00:19:07,233 --> 00:19:10,236 that the most horrible character in the movie 354 00:19:10,279 --> 00:19:13,021 should be the one that maybe we identify with the most. 355 00:19:13,064 --> 00:19:14,520 We're gonna to do it the scanner way. 356 00:19:14,544 --> 00:19:16,546 I'm gonna suck your brain dry. 357 00:19:20,115 --> 00:19:21,943 The sibling rivalry culminates 358 00:19:21,986 --> 00:19:23,945 in a psychic duel to the death. 359 00:19:23,988 --> 00:19:25,599 No matter who wins, 360 00:19:25,642 --> 00:19:28,993 it's clear the scanners have left humanity behind. 361 00:19:30,430 --> 00:19:32,954 The idea that someone with those gifts 362 00:19:32,997 --> 00:19:35,043 would no longer really be human at all 363 00:19:35,086 --> 00:19:38,089 is the underlying message of "Scanners," 364 00:19:38,133 --> 00:19:40,918 and in some ways is also kind of an on-running, 365 00:19:40,962 --> 00:19:43,617 ongoing theme with Cronenberg himself, 366 00:19:43,660 --> 00:19:45,401 who seems to be interested 367 00:19:45,445 --> 00:19:47,621 in what might be next for humanity. 368 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,671 "Scanners" was one 369 00:19:54,715 --> 00:19:57,239 of several films of the '70s and early '80s 370 00:19:57,283 --> 00:19:59,502 about government agencies exploiting psychics 371 00:19:59,546 --> 00:20:01,243 for sinister purposes. 372 00:20:06,161 --> 00:20:07,878 You know, in the '70s everybody was being exploited 373 00:20:07,902 --> 00:20:10,774 for sinister purposes. I mean, it was the Nixon era. 374 00:20:12,298 --> 00:20:13,449 Everybody was a little paranoid 375 00:20:13,473 --> 00:20:14,735 about the government. 376 00:20:14,778 --> 00:20:16,780 Who are they? FBI? 377 00:20:16,824 --> 00:20:19,392 Really, the Department of Scientific Intelligence, 378 00:20:19,435 --> 00:20:21,002 DSI. 379 00:20:21,045 --> 00:20:24,571 All these movies that basically said 380 00:20:24,614 --> 00:20:26,181 that you can't trust the government, 381 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:28,052 it's up to something, and it's spying on you, 382 00:20:28,096 --> 00:20:31,621 and they're taking these young kids 383 00:20:31,665 --> 00:20:33,275 who have these abilities 384 00:20:33,319 --> 00:20:36,278 and making sure that they use them for ill. 385 00:20:42,197 --> 00:20:44,286 Brian De Palma's 1978 adaptation 386 00:20:44,330 --> 00:20:47,115 of the John Farris novel "The Fury" 387 00:20:47,158 --> 00:20:50,292 launched the paranoid psychic trend. 388 00:20:50,336 --> 00:20:52,294 Faster. 389 00:20:52,338 --> 00:20:54,427 Faster! Faster! 390 00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:56,429 Turn! Again! 391 00:20:56,472 --> 00:20:58,300 Turn! 392 00:20:58,344 --> 00:20:59,910 Faster! 393 00:20:59,954 --> 00:21:01,303 Faster! 394 00:21:03,174 --> 00:21:04,915 Andrew Stevens plays a young man 395 00:21:04,959 --> 00:21:07,135 snatched by a government agency 396 00:21:07,178 --> 00:21:09,659 that turns gifted teenagers into living weapons. 397 00:21:09,703 --> 00:21:11,095 Why, he's developing 398 00:21:11,139 --> 00:21:13,054 the power of an atomic reactor. 399 00:21:13,097 --> 00:21:15,317 Or an atomic bomb. 400 00:21:17,363 --> 00:21:19,428 The agency also has its eye on a young woman 401 00:21:19,452 --> 00:21:21,280 played by Amy Irving, 402 00:21:21,323 --> 00:21:23,456 who has psychic powers she barely understands. 403 00:21:23,499 --> 00:21:24,805 Cheryl! 404 00:21:24,848 --> 00:21:25,849 Come on! Tell me! 405 00:21:25,893 --> 00:21:28,896 No, oh, my God! Oh, my God! 406 00:21:28,939 --> 00:21:29,897 - Oh, my God! - Cheryl! 407 00:21:29,940 --> 00:21:32,073 Cheryl! Oh, my God! 408 00:21:32,116 --> 00:21:33,988 For the first time in his career, 409 00:21:34,031 --> 00:21:36,251 De Palma was working with a large budget. 410 00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:38,297 He used it to create new ways 411 00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:40,516 of showing psychic phenomena on screen. 412 00:21:45,216 --> 00:21:48,002 "The Fury" is full of bits of De Palma 413 00:21:48,045 --> 00:21:50,047 trying to figure out, "How would I do this? 414 00:21:50,091 --> 00:21:52,746 "How would I show a hallucination? 415 00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:54,356 "How would I pop back and forth 416 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,184 "between consciousnesses 417 00:21:56,227 --> 00:21:58,031 that are aware of each other in different location?" 418 00:21:58,055 --> 00:22:00,057 So you get the bit when he's scratching 419 00:22:00,101 --> 00:22:02,103 on the side of the sofa, 420 00:22:02,146 --> 00:22:03,670 and she's scratching on the wall. 421 00:22:03,713 --> 00:22:05,715 It's just a great moment. 422 00:22:10,416 --> 00:22:13,157 You know, he had the scene with Amy Irving 423 00:22:13,201 --> 00:22:15,943 on the staircase when she has a vision. 424 00:22:15,986 --> 00:22:17,379 Oh. 425 00:22:19,816 --> 00:22:23,733 And, you know, famously De Palma has Amy Irving 426 00:22:23,777 --> 00:22:26,301 in front of a green screen and she's revolving one way, 427 00:22:26,345 --> 00:22:29,522 and the action is being projected behind her. 428 00:22:33,743 --> 00:22:36,006 Brilliantly simple idea. 429 00:22:36,050 --> 00:22:37,399 Stop! 430 00:22:39,009 --> 00:22:41,490 Just relax, Robin, relax. It's going to be okay. 431 00:22:43,274 --> 00:22:44,687 There are things that are in "The Fury" 432 00:22:44,711 --> 00:22:46,190 that have been ripped off 433 00:22:46,234 --> 00:22:48,323 in every film about psychic powers, 434 00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:51,239 including superhero movies, ever since. 435 00:22:51,282 --> 00:22:53,197 It's like the Rick Baker effect 436 00:22:53,241 --> 00:22:55,243 of the throbbing veins in the head. 437 00:23:01,554 --> 00:23:04,034 That's first seen in "The Fury" and like ripped off 438 00:23:04,078 --> 00:23:06,776 in, like, films to this day. 439 00:23:13,914 --> 00:23:16,046 In a movie filled with great set pieces, 440 00:23:16,090 --> 00:23:18,832 "The Fury" saves the best for last. 441 00:23:22,139 --> 00:23:24,838 Amy Irving's character turns the full force 442 00:23:24,881 --> 00:23:27,188 of her powers on the villain, played by 443 00:23:27,231 --> 00:23:29,451 legendary actor/director John Cassavetes. 444 00:23:31,279 --> 00:23:32,759 The ending of "The Fury" 445 00:23:32,802 --> 00:23:36,850 is the single greatest ending of any, you know, 446 00:23:36,893 --> 00:23:38,765 Hollywood film of the 1970s. 447 00:23:38,808 --> 00:23:40,462 You go to the hell. 448 00:23:47,513 --> 00:23:49,186 Especially for someone who doesn't particularly care 449 00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:51,604 for Cassavetes movies as I really don't, 450 00:23:51,647 --> 00:23:54,476 watching him blow up like that is... oh, it's so delicious. 451 00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:03,703 If you've seen "The Fury," 452 00:24:03,746 --> 00:24:05,313 when you see "Scanners," 453 00:24:05,356 --> 00:24:07,707 it's like, "Oh, yeah, well, it's good. 454 00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:10,405 "Not John Cassavetes being blown up 455 00:24:10,449 --> 00:24:12,973 from head to toe in slow motion good." 456 00:24:16,455 --> 00:24:17,804 Two years later, 457 00:24:17,847 --> 00:24:19,501 David Cronenberg made another movie 458 00:24:19,545 --> 00:24:20,894 about psychic powers... 459 00:24:23,984 --> 00:24:26,682 A masterpiece that trades exploding heads 460 00:24:26,726 --> 00:24:28,858 for broken hearts. 461 00:24:34,255 --> 00:24:36,083 I've had another episode. 462 00:24:38,955 --> 00:24:40,087 What's happening to me? 463 00:24:42,132 --> 00:24:43,917 It's your power of second sight. 464 00:24:48,095 --> 00:24:51,402 The ice is gonna break! 465 00:24:51,446 --> 00:24:54,754 Male Based on one of Stephen King's finest novels, 466 00:24:54,797 --> 00:24:58,932 David Cronenberg's 1983 adaptation of "The Dead Zone" 467 00:24:58,975 --> 00:25:01,108 tells the story of Johnny Smith... 468 00:25:01,151 --> 00:25:02,109 You're gonna like it. 469 00:25:02,152 --> 00:25:03,458 It's about a school teacher 470 00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:06,156 who gets chased by a headless demon. 471 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,332 A man whose happy life 472 00:25:08,376 --> 00:25:10,900 is ruined by a serious car accident. 473 00:25:18,952 --> 00:25:21,345 After spending five years in a coma, 474 00:25:21,389 --> 00:25:23,522 Johnny wakes up with psychic powers... 475 00:25:28,614 --> 00:25:30,964 But not much else. 476 00:25:31,007 --> 00:25:33,575 He's lost five years of his life. 477 00:25:33,619 --> 00:25:37,361 He's lost the woman he loved. He's lost his career. 478 00:25:37,405 --> 00:25:39,668 And, nevertheless, 479 00:25:39,712 --> 00:25:42,192 he picks up the shattered fragments 480 00:25:42,236 --> 00:25:44,107 of his life and begins to fit them 481 00:25:44,151 --> 00:25:46,022 back together, and he goes on. 482 00:25:46,066 --> 00:25:49,330 I think it's impossible not to be a little moved by that. 483 00:25:51,027 --> 00:25:53,943 It was the first time, I believe, 484 00:25:53,987 --> 00:25:58,600 that Cronenberg had access to the best possible cast. 485 00:25:58,644 --> 00:26:02,473 And Christopher Walken, his most moving and emotional 486 00:26:02,517 --> 00:26:04,737 and heartbreaking performance I've ever seen. 487 00:26:07,174 --> 00:26:09,393 David had described Chris Walken's face 488 00:26:09,437 --> 00:26:11,570 as the subject of the movie, 489 00:26:11,613 --> 00:26:14,137 the arc of his character carries the whole movie, 490 00:26:14,181 --> 00:26:16,226 and really this is a man 491 00:26:16,270 --> 00:26:19,447 who's filled with regret and despair, 492 00:26:19,490 --> 00:26:21,057 so a lot of his actions tell the story, 493 00:26:21,101 --> 00:26:23,973 but a lot of this was really carrying the story 494 00:26:24,017 --> 00:26:25,192 from beginning to end. 495 00:26:27,498 --> 00:26:29,022 You're given this kind of gift 496 00:26:29,065 --> 00:26:30,632 of being able to see the future, 497 00:26:30,676 --> 00:26:33,635 which should be something that's great... 498 00:26:35,898 --> 00:26:39,772 And yet it keeps leading him into situations 499 00:26:39,815 --> 00:26:43,036 whereby he's shown some incredibly dark things. 500 00:26:43,079 --> 00:26:44,994 And sometimes he can save people, 501 00:26:45,038 --> 00:26:46,430 and sometimes he can't. 502 00:26:50,304 --> 00:26:52,436 With "The Dead Zone," 503 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,003 Cronenberg swapped the cold objectivity 504 00:26:54,047 --> 00:26:55,744 of "Scanners" 505 00:26:55,788 --> 00:26:58,268 for a much more intimate approach to psychic phenomena. 506 00:27:02,055 --> 00:27:03,249 Cronenberg solved the problem 507 00:27:03,273 --> 00:27:04,884 of how do you show the actor 508 00:27:04,927 --> 00:27:07,451 seeing the future or reading someone's mind? 509 00:27:07,495 --> 00:27:09,410 How do you visualize that? 510 00:27:09,453 --> 00:27:12,500 And he did that by flinging Christopher Walken 511 00:27:12,543 --> 00:27:14,676 right into his own visions. 512 00:27:17,070 --> 00:27:18,419 Amy! 513 00:27:18,462 --> 00:27:19,681 And so when a house 514 00:27:19,725 --> 00:27:22,292 is burning a few minutes in the future, 515 00:27:22,336 --> 00:27:26,514 Johnny Smith is right there in the bed in the nursery 516 00:27:26,557 --> 00:27:28,690 watching the fish tank boil and explode. 517 00:27:31,258 --> 00:27:32,868 He's a very tortured protagonist, 518 00:27:32,912 --> 00:27:35,697 and he still chooses to do right in the movie 519 00:27:35,741 --> 00:27:37,133 despite the fact that life 520 00:27:37,177 --> 00:27:40,484 has just been dealing him very poor cards. 521 00:27:40,528 --> 00:27:43,096 When I woke up, my girl was gone, 522 00:27:43,139 --> 00:27:47,100 my job was gone, my legs are just about useless. 523 00:27:47,143 --> 00:27:48,555 I think of it as a very emotional movie 524 00:27:48,579 --> 00:27:51,713 because the very mechanism that drives it forward 525 00:27:51,757 --> 00:27:53,715 is tragic human experience. 526 00:27:55,630 --> 00:27:57,719 The ultimate test of Johnny's character 527 00:27:57,763 --> 00:28:00,026 comes when he meets up-and-coming politician, 528 00:28:00,069 --> 00:28:02,724 Greg Stillson, played by Martin Sheen. 529 00:28:02,768 --> 00:28:03,725 You got to stay in better shape 530 00:28:03,769 --> 00:28:05,161 in this country. 531 00:28:05,205 --> 00:28:06,878 What the hell has happened to this country? 532 00:28:06,902 --> 00:28:08,575 Stillson's straight-talking populism 533 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:10,732 conceals his true nature, 534 00:28:10,776 --> 00:28:12,560 he's a bullying egomaniac 535 00:28:12,603 --> 00:28:15,128 who will stop at nothing to gain power. 536 00:28:15,171 --> 00:28:18,827 I have had a vision that I am going to be president 537 00:28:18,871 --> 00:28:20,742 of the United States someday, 538 00:28:20,786 --> 00:28:22,744 and I have accepted that responsibility, 539 00:28:22,788 --> 00:28:26,095 and nobody, I mean nobody, 540 00:28:26,139 --> 00:28:27,488 is gonna stop me. 541 00:28:29,403 --> 00:28:31,163 When Johnny shakes hands with Stillson, 542 00:28:31,187 --> 00:28:34,321 he has a premonition of him starting World War III. 543 00:28:36,236 --> 00:28:38,107 Stillson, Stillson, Stillson! 544 00:28:38,151 --> 00:28:39,761 Stillson, Stillson! 545 00:28:41,371 --> 00:28:44,723 The missiles are flying. Hallelujah. 546 00:28:44,766 --> 00:28:46,550 If you knew somebody 547 00:28:46,594 --> 00:28:50,424 was going to be a mass murderer, 548 00:28:50,467 --> 00:28:53,601 is gonna commit genocide on a major level, 549 00:28:53,644 --> 00:28:56,604 but haven't done it yet, would you take him out? 550 00:28:56,647 --> 00:28:58,737 That's basically what the end of the movie is, 551 00:28:58,780 --> 00:29:01,000 is that Christopher Walken decides that he has 552 00:29:01,043 --> 00:29:03,872 to assassinate Greg Stillson to save the world. 553 00:29:06,832 --> 00:29:08,181 Johnny! 554 00:29:08,224 --> 00:29:09,617 At the tense finale, 555 00:29:09,660 --> 00:29:12,141 we find ourselves rooting for an assassin. 556 00:29:12,185 --> 00:29:14,578 - Give me him! - Don't! 557 00:29:18,408 --> 00:29:20,889 Johnny is doomed, 558 00:29:20,933 --> 00:29:22,761 but he does save the world. 559 00:29:25,807 --> 00:29:29,158 Evil finds a way of devouring itself. 560 00:29:29,202 --> 00:29:30,986 You see that in the movie. 561 00:29:31,030 --> 00:29:34,294 You see that in the book as well. 562 00:29:34,337 --> 00:29:36,035 Most really evil people 563 00:29:36,078 --> 00:29:38,994 have a self-destruct button built in. 564 00:29:41,823 --> 00:29:43,433 It's over. 565 00:29:43,477 --> 00:29:46,262 And sooner or later, they put their fist down on it 566 00:29:46,306 --> 00:29:47,960 without realizing what they've done. 567 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,617 That movie is so heartbreaking, 568 00:29:53,661 --> 00:29:56,403 and every time I watch it, 569 00:29:56,446 --> 00:30:00,233 I'm more enamored 570 00:30:00,276 --> 00:30:02,626 with Cronenberg as a filmmaker and what he has done. 571 00:30:07,196 --> 00:30:09,764 Not every story about a psychic is a tragedy. 572 00:30:11,897 --> 00:30:15,378 For some, it opens up a world of demented fun. 573 00:30:15,422 --> 00:30:16,989 It's showtime. 574 00:30:25,345 --> 00:30:27,869 Male In 1985, a young director 575 00:30:27,913 --> 00:30:29,392 named Tim Burton 576 00:30:29,436 --> 00:30:31,481 made his first feature-length film, 577 00:30:31,525 --> 00:30:33,222 "Pee-wee's Big Adventure." 578 00:30:33,266 --> 00:30:36,573 It looked like this. 579 00:30:37,923 --> 00:30:39,402 It was an unlikely hit. 580 00:30:43,015 --> 00:30:44,451 Burton's next project 581 00:30:44,494 --> 00:30:46,235 was a horror comedy about two ghosts 582 00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:47,628 and the psychic girl 583 00:30:47,671 --> 00:30:49,084 who becomes their surrogate daughter. 584 00:30:50,718 --> 00:30:52,111 It was called... 585 00:30:52,154 --> 00:30:53,068 Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice! 586 00:30:53,112 --> 00:30:54,896 Oh, no! 587 00:30:54,940 --> 00:30:56,743 "Pee-wee's Big Adventure" is one of my favorite films, 588 00:30:56,767 --> 00:30:58,726 and so then, when "Beetlejuice" came out, 589 00:30:58,769 --> 00:31:00,902 everyone knew this was something special. 590 00:31:00,946 --> 00:31:02,295 It was gonna be like the guy 591 00:31:02,338 --> 00:31:03,687 who made "Pee-wee's Big Adventure" 592 00:31:03,731 --> 00:31:06,212 had made some kind of horror movie. 593 00:31:08,170 --> 00:31:11,521 Right from the opening shot with the Danny Elfman music, 594 00:31:11,565 --> 00:31:13,872 you are 100% in a Tim Burton film. 595 00:31:15,961 --> 00:31:17,353 "Beetlejuice" begins 596 00:31:17,397 --> 00:31:18,615 with a demise of a sweet, 597 00:31:18,659 --> 00:31:20,487 but not terribly bright young couple... 598 00:31:25,144 --> 00:31:27,407 Played by Geena Davis and Alec Baldwin. 599 00:31:31,672 --> 00:31:33,108 What I loved about it 600 00:31:33,152 --> 00:31:34,390 from just even reading the script 601 00:31:34,414 --> 00:31:36,198 was they were very matter-of-fact 602 00:31:36,242 --> 00:31:37,678 about it, you know? 603 00:31:37,721 --> 00:31:39,221 It's rather, "You know, we're simple folks 604 00:31:39,245 --> 00:31:40,768 and we seem to be dead." 605 00:31:40,811 --> 00:31:42,572 I've been reading that book, and there's a word 606 00:31:42,596 --> 00:31:45,729 for people in our situation. Ghosts. 607 00:31:47,296 --> 00:31:49,385 You know, everything is kind of taken for granted, 608 00:31:49,429 --> 00:31:51,779 you know, there's nothing too shocking 609 00:31:51,822 --> 00:31:53,955 about any of it to us. 610 00:31:53,999 --> 00:31:55,237 I don't think we have very much 611 00:31:55,261 --> 00:31:56,523 to worry about anymore. 612 00:31:56,566 --> 00:31:59,091 I find that very amusing. 613 00:32:00,701 --> 00:32:02,572 Life isn't that different 614 00:32:02,616 --> 00:32:05,706 till their home is sold to Charles and Delia Deetz 615 00:32:05,749 --> 00:32:07,577 who turn it into a post-modern hell. 616 00:32:09,579 --> 00:32:12,800 I loved that dynamic, in the Beetlejuice family, 617 00:32:12,843 --> 00:32:15,150 that it's the ghosts that were the friendly ones. 618 00:32:15,194 --> 00:32:18,110 They're the ones being terrorized by the humans. 619 00:32:18,153 --> 00:32:19,589 Oh! 620 00:32:19,633 --> 00:32:21,983 You can see us without the sheets? 621 00:32:22,027 --> 00:32:23,811 Of course I can see you. 622 00:32:23,854 --> 00:32:26,379 Well, how is it that you see us and nobody else can? 623 00:32:26,422 --> 00:32:27,946 The ghosts' sole ally 624 00:32:27,989 --> 00:32:31,862 is young Lydia Deetz, who has the psychic gift 625 00:32:31,906 --> 00:32:34,778 of being able to see and communicate with the dead. 626 00:32:36,780 --> 00:32:40,741 I wanted to be Winona Ryder as Lydia. 627 00:32:40,784 --> 00:32:44,614 Live people ignore the strange and usual. 628 00:32:44,658 --> 00:32:48,227 I, myself, am strange and unusual. 629 00:32:48,270 --> 00:32:51,404 She was just the coolest. 630 00:32:51,447 --> 00:32:52,971 She had the coolest lines. 631 00:32:53,014 --> 00:32:54,407 I plan to have a stroke 632 00:32:54,450 --> 00:32:56,931 from the amount of MSG that's in this food. 633 00:32:56,975 --> 00:32:59,978 And her costumes and how she wasn't 634 00:33:00,021 --> 00:33:03,285 that happy-go-lucky kid. 635 00:33:03,329 --> 00:33:05,809 She could see more. 636 00:33:05,853 --> 00:33:08,334 She was "spiritually woke," 637 00:33:08,377 --> 00:33:12,642 and she was unapologetically herself. 638 00:33:12,686 --> 00:33:15,515 God! You guys really are dead. 639 00:33:18,213 --> 00:33:20,215 This is amazing. 640 00:33:20,259 --> 00:33:22,043 Lydia's sensitivity lets her see 641 00:33:22,087 --> 00:33:23,566 what her parents cannot. 642 00:33:23,610 --> 00:33:25,612 Careful, that's my sculpture. 643 00:33:25,655 --> 00:33:28,049 A world beyond themselves. 644 00:33:28,093 --> 00:33:30,660 If you don't let me gut out this house and make it my own, 645 00:33:30,704 --> 00:33:33,011 I will go insane, and I will take you with me! 646 00:33:35,622 --> 00:33:37,667 Lydia tries to act as the medium 647 00:33:37,711 --> 00:33:39,234 between the living and the dead, 648 00:33:39,278 --> 00:33:40,801 but it's no use. 649 00:33:40,844 --> 00:33:41,865 But they were trying to scare you away, 650 00:33:41,889 --> 00:33:43,630 and you didn't get scared. 651 00:33:43,673 --> 00:33:45,066 Please, they're dead. 652 00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:46,676 It's a little late to be neurotic. 653 00:33:48,635 --> 00:33:50,202 In desperation, the ghosts 654 00:33:50,245 --> 00:33:54,641 summon a bio-exorcist, the demon Beetlejuice, 655 00:33:54,684 --> 00:33:56,338 played in a performance for the ages 656 00:33:56,382 --> 00:33:58,253 by Michael Keaton. 657 00:33:58,297 --> 00:33:59,863 Yeah! 658 00:33:59,907 --> 00:34:03,084 Michael Keaton was amazing as Beetlejuice. 659 00:34:03,128 --> 00:34:04,825 You know, we got to get closer. 660 00:34:04,868 --> 00:34:06,870 Move in with you for a while. Get to be real pals. 661 00:34:06,914 --> 00:34:07,871 You know what I'm saying? 662 00:34:07,915 --> 00:34:09,656 And... 663 00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:11,092 - Ugh. - Save that guy for later. 664 00:34:11,136 --> 00:34:12,093 So funny. 665 00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:14,443 I really loved, loved him, 666 00:34:14,487 --> 00:34:18,099 and he... so much was ad-libbed and just made up on the fly. 667 00:34:18,143 --> 00:34:22,234 I'm feeling a little anxious, if you know what I mean. 668 00:34:24,279 --> 00:34:26,127 Beetlejuice is an incarnation of corruption. 669 00:34:27,717 --> 00:34:29,458 He cannot be trusted. 670 00:34:31,765 --> 00:34:33,854 Humans and ghosts must come together 671 00:34:33,897 --> 00:34:36,204 to save Lydia from his clutches. 672 00:34:38,163 --> 00:34:40,121 It's a metaphor for the rescue 673 00:34:40,165 --> 00:34:42,645 of a neglected child from loneliness and despair. 674 00:34:46,823 --> 00:34:50,566 You're probably supposed to interpret the movie 675 00:34:50,610 --> 00:34:53,917 through Lydia's perspective, 676 00:34:53,961 --> 00:34:55,745 and she is very much an outsider 677 00:34:55,789 --> 00:34:58,966 who comes to belong 678 00:34:59,009 --> 00:35:01,534 through very unusual means 679 00:35:01,577 --> 00:35:04,145 by having ghost parents 680 00:35:04,189 --> 00:35:07,757 who are better parents to her than her real parents. 681 00:35:07,801 --> 00:35:08,952 How'd you do on that science test? 682 00:35:08,976 --> 00:35:10,325 It was gross. 683 00:35:10,369 --> 00:35:12,110 They wanted me to dissect a frog. 684 00:35:13,241 --> 00:35:15,374 Traditionally, movie psychics 685 00:35:15,417 --> 00:35:16,679 are cursed by their gifts. 686 00:35:18,377 --> 00:35:20,553 Beetlejuice is the rare film about a psychic 687 00:35:20,596 --> 00:35:22,163 that has a happy ending... 688 00:35:22,207 --> 00:35:24,296 For Lydia and for the people in her life, 689 00:35:24,339 --> 00:35:26,385 living and dead. 690 00:35:26,428 --> 00:35:28,735 Sometimes, if somebody recognizes me, 691 00:35:28,778 --> 00:35:31,520 they'll say, "I like your movie." 692 00:35:31,564 --> 00:35:33,827 And I'm like, "Okay." 693 00:35:33,870 --> 00:35:36,177 And so I finally started asking people, 694 00:35:36,221 --> 00:35:37,309 "What movie?" 695 00:35:37,352 --> 00:35:39,572 Oh! 696 00:35:39,615 --> 00:35:42,836 95% of the time they mean "Beetlejuice." 697 00:35:42,879 --> 00:35:44,577 They think that's the only movie I've made, 698 00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:47,014 and they like my movie. 699 00:35:47,057 --> 00:35:49,582 Which I'm perfectly happy with. I love that. 700 00:35:53,238 --> 00:35:55,588 I can communicate with the other side. 701 00:35:55,631 --> 00:35:57,503 The ability to see the dead 702 00:35:57,546 --> 00:35:58,765 is a miraculous gift. 703 00:36:01,420 --> 00:36:04,988 It was cold-blooded murder. 704 00:36:07,077 --> 00:36:08,577 Unless you're the tortured hero 705 00:36:08,601 --> 00:36:10,168 of "The Frighteners." 706 00:36:14,955 --> 00:36:18,045 male When you think of filmmaker Peter Jackson, 707 00:36:18,088 --> 00:36:19,488 this is probably what comes to mind. 708 00:36:24,225 --> 00:36:25,811 But horror fans know he started out 709 00:36:25,835 --> 00:36:27,620 making some of the most outrageous 710 00:36:27,663 --> 00:36:29,796 splatter films ever to hit the screen. 711 00:36:32,842 --> 00:36:34,453 The bridge between 712 00:36:34,496 --> 00:36:36,716 the two Peter Jacksons is "The Frighteners." 713 00:36:36,759 --> 00:36:38,848 I can see spirits. 714 00:36:42,896 --> 00:36:44,027 A film that takes 715 00:36:44,071 --> 00:36:45,855 some very surprising turns. 716 00:36:49,250 --> 00:36:53,211 "The Frighteners" is such a classic comedy horror 717 00:36:53,254 --> 00:36:55,038 where it starts off so goofy... 718 00:36:58,085 --> 00:36:59,652 And then gets genuinely frightening. 719 00:37:01,915 --> 00:37:03,569 This one really has a build, 720 00:37:03,612 --> 00:37:06,615 I think, that no other comedy horror has ever had. 721 00:37:08,313 --> 00:37:09,618 Michael J. Fox stars 722 00:37:09,662 --> 00:37:12,273 as Frank Bannister, 723 00:37:12,317 --> 00:37:14,667 who gains the power to communicate with ghosts 724 00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:17,060 after he's in a car accident that kills his wife. 725 00:37:21,021 --> 00:37:22,849 Feeling responsible for her death, 726 00:37:22,892 --> 00:37:25,243 he's literally a haunted man, 727 00:37:25,286 --> 00:37:28,855 so lost in self-loathing, that he prostitutes his gift 728 00:37:28,898 --> 00:37:31,031 using the ghosts to scam the living. 729 00:37:35,949 --> 00:37:39,082 We're so used to, you know, seeing all these psychics 730 00:37:39,126 --> 00:37:40,867 use their powers in certain ways... 731 00:37:40,910 --> 00:37:44,479 To find evil or to find more answers, 732 00:37:44,523 --> 00:37:46,481 but in this case, Michael J. Fox, 733 00:37:46,525 --> 00:37:48,048 he's a con artist. 734 00:37:48,091 --> 00:37:49,330 Well, folks, I can do a clearance, 735 00:37:49,354 --> 00:37:51,921 but it's not gonna be cheap. 736 00:37:51,965 --> 00:37:54,707 Sure, he's a psychic. He can see ghosts. 737 00:37:54,750 --> 00:37:59,233 But this is him using his power to make that extra buck. 738 00:37:59,277 --> 00:38:03,455 This could be the worst case I have ever... seen. 739 00:38:05,587 --> 00:38:08,286 Where are you going? 740 00:38:08,329 --> 00:38:09,722 Things get worse 741 00:38:09,765 --> 00:38:11,724 when a demonic spirit appears 742 00:38:11,767 --> 00:38:14,683 and begins killing people Frank comes into contact with. 743 00:38:19,384 --> 00:38:20,776 Frank's psychic gift 744 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:22,169 lets him see who's next to die. 745 00:38:25,607 --> 00:38:27,348 But he's powerless to save them. 746 00:38:29,742 --> 00:38:31,787 The murders attract the attention 747 00:38:31,831 --> 00:38:33,920 of a very peculiar FBI agent, 748 00:38:33,963 --> 00:38:36,575 played by horror legend Jeffrey Combs. 749 00:38:36,618 --> 00:38:38,707 You're a very dangerous man, Mr. Bannister. 750 00:38:44,017 --> 00:38:47,890 I sort of approached him like what happens 751 00:38:47,934 --> 00:38:52,808 when your patriotism takes you to a point 752 00:38:52,852 --> 00:38:56,812 where you will do anything for your country, 753 00:38:56,856 --> 00:38:58,379 to the point where you don't even know 754 00:38:58,423 --> 00:39:01,513 how damaged you are anymore. 755 00:39:04,124 --> 00:39:08,998 My body is roadmap of pain. 756 00:39:09,042 --> 00:39:11,218 Jeffrey Combs made "Frighteners." 757 00:39:11,261 --> 00:39:14,221 Look at his haircut and the way he speaks 758 00:39:14,264 --> 00:39:16,223 and his eyes for everything. 759 00:39:18,617 --> 00:39:21,184 Well, the haircut was my idea, I'm afraid. 760 00:39:21,228 --> 00:39:25,188 I was thinking about what is the prime example 761 00:39:25,232 --> 00:39:28,104 of that kind of nationalism? Oh, wait a minute. 762 00:39:28,148 --> 00:39:30,411 And I found a book of young Hitler. 763 00:39:32,457 --> 00:39:34,459 I took it back to Peter, and I said, 764 00:39:34,502 --> 00:39:38,985 "Peter, what do you think my hair would look like that?" 765 00:39:39,028 --> 00:39:43,903 And I thought he would say, "No, are you crazy?" 766 00:39:43,946 --> 00:39:46,079 But he looked at it 767 00:39:46,122 --> 00:39:48,168 and just took a beat, and he went, 768 00:39:48,211 --> 00:39:50,257 "Yeah, yes, that'll be good." 769 00:39:52,477 --> 00:39:54,740 In the film's dark finale, 770 00:39:54,783 --> 00:39:58,047 Frank discovers his wife was one of many victims 771 00:39:58,091 --> 00:40:00,049 of a pair of thrill killers 772 00:40:00,093 --> 00:40:02,574 played by Dee Wallace and Jake Busey. 773 00:40:04,227 --> 00:40:07,100 - You killed her. - You're next, pal. 774 00:40:07,143 --> 00:40:09,668 I think it's the first movie that has a homicidal couple 775 00:40:09,711 --> 00:40:11,080 where one is a ghost and one is not. 776 00:40:11,104 --> 00:40:12,453 I can't think of one before that. 777 00:40:16,849 --> 00:40:18,633 But it's a cool idea 778 00:40:18,677 --> 00:40:20,635 that it's also this really dark romance of sorts, 779 00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:22,289 that they get off on this fact, 780 00:40:22,332 --> 00:40:23,484 that they keep killing more and more people, 781 00:40:23,508 --> 00:40:25,074 that they get more and more in love 782 00:40:25,118 --> 00:40:26,032 with each other the more bodies they pile up. 783 00:40:26,075 --> 00:40:27,294 It's a really nutty idea. 784 00:40:30,123 --> 00:40:31,864 With the mystery solved, 785 00:40:31,907 --> 00:40:34,475 Frank is finally able to move on with his life. 786 00:40:35,824 --> 00:40:38,523 Be happy. 787 00:40:38,566 --> 00:40:40,326 "The Frighteners" turns out to be a study 788 00:40:40,350 --> 00:40:43,266 of trauma, depression, and forgiveness. 789 00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:45,268 It corkscrews into something 790 00:40:45,312 --> 00:40:48,881 that you're not even prepared for, 791 00:40:48,924 --> 00:40:50,839 and that's the genius of it. 792 00:40:53,189 --> 00:40:57,629 It's a movie that you can't quite categorize 793 00:40:57,672 --> 00:40:59,587 'cause it's many things. 794 00:40:59,631 --> 00:41:02,285 After setting you up thinking this is just gonna be 795 00:41:02,329 --> 00:41:05,854 some pleasant, safe little ride... 796 00:41:08,553 --> 00:41:12,905 It takes you down a rabbit hole of true horror. 797 00:41:16,169 --> 00:41:17,755 Isn't that what a movie is supposed to do 798 00:41:17,779 --> 00:41:19,868 is take you on an unexpected journey? 799 00:41:25,744 --> 00:41:27,833 We don't fully understand 800 00:41:27,876 --> 00:41:29,138 how our brains work... 801 00:41:29,182 --> 00:41:31,532 The derangement of the synapses. 802 00:41:35,797 --> 00:41:37,320 Nor can we prove 803 00:41:37,364 --> 00:41:39,366 or disprove psychic powers are real. 804 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,545 But as long as we can think and dream... 805 00:41:46,329 --> 00:41:48,549 We'll have psychics on our minds. 59629

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