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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Movies downloaded from: YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Subtitles are generated manually and use the Deepdl 00:00:10,980 I get asked a lot 'Why did you start drinking? 4 00:00:10,980 --> 00:00:12,940 Did something terrible happen to you at fifteen? 5 00:00:12,940 --> 00:00:14,420 Because terrible things do happen to 6 00:00:14,420 --> 00:00:15,140 fifteen year old girls, I get that. 7 00:00:16,500 --> 00:00:18,620 And the scary thing is that no, 8 00:00:18,620 --> 00:00:21,780 nothing happened. 9 00:00:21,780 --> 00:00:24,500 I had a really nice family. 10 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:27,060 I had amazing parents, I still do. 11 00:00:27,060 --> 00:00:28,900 I had great friends. 12 00:00:28,900 --> 00:00:31,300 I was never particularly confident, 13 00:00:31,300 --> 00:00:34,260 I was never particularly attractive. 14 00:00:34,260 --> 00:00:36,820 I was always one of the really awkward teenagers. 15 00:00:36,820 --> 00:00:38,940 I just loved it. 16 00:00:38,940 --> 00:00:41,740 I just felt like I fitted in my own skin, 17 00:00:41,740 --> 00:00:43,300 if that makes sense. 18 00:00:43,300 --> 00:00:47,100 It was such an amazing feeling. 19 00:00:47,100 --> 00:00:49,420 It kind of felt like a big quilt, 20 00:00:49,420 --> 00:00:50,980 like a big quilt being wrapped around you, 21 00:00:50,980 --> 00:00:52,900 where you didn't worry, 22 00:00:52,900 --> 00:00:54,700 where you couldn't really feel anything. 23 00:00:54,700 --> 00:00:57,420 I don't know why I didn't wanna feel anything at 15... 24 00:00:57,420 --> 00:01:01,020 I can't even tell you. It was like being in love. 25 00:01:02,460 --> 00:01:05,900 I knew something was wrong. 26 00:01:05,900 --> 00:01:09,620 Because sometimes... you know, like one of those kaleidoscopes, 27 00:01:09,620 --> 00:01:12,860 where you're looking through it and everything clicks. 28 00:01:12,860 --> 00:01:16,500 Sometimes, the kaleidoscope would click into place, 29 00:01:16,500 --> 00:01:19,380 just for a split second, and you'd know what was wrong. 30 00:01:19,380 --> 00:01:21,140 You'd know something was terribly wrong, 31 00:01:21,140 --> 00:01:23,100 and you didn't know quite why it was alcohol. 32 00:01:24,500 --> 00:01:24,940 But it was. 33 00:01:26,820 --> 00:01:28,700 Every time the kaleidoscope clicked into place, 34 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:30,580 and all the colours made sense, 35 00:01:30,580 --> 00:01:33,300 I'd go off again and there'd be an excuse to drink. 36 00:01:33,300 --> 00:01:34,980 Because there's always someone drinking more. 37 00:01:34,980 --> 00:01:36,940 There's always someone more messed up than you. 38 00:01:36,940 --> 00:01:37,580 So it was always OK. 39 00:01:41,420 --> 00:01:43,300 I've never had enough to drink. 40 00:01:43,300 --> 00:01:46,140 Never in my life have I had enough to drink. 41 00:01:46,140 --> 00:01:47,380 And thank god really because then I would be dead. 42 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:52,140 MUSIC 43 00:02:00,220 --> 00:02:16,980 MUSIC - MOBY 'LONELY NIGHT' 44 00:02:33,060 --> 00:02:49,500 MUSIC - MOBY 'LONELY NIGHT' 45 00:03:05,300 --> 00:03:08,860 GUITAR 46 00:03:10,820 --> 00:03:11,260 This is me. 47 00:03:13,860 --> 00:03:16,420 This is actually the only photo of me holding a can of beer. 48 00:03:16,420 --> 00:03:19,940 My name is Arthur Cauty, 49 00:03:19,940 --> 00:03:22,540 and I am one of the few people in Britain who don't drink. 50 00:03:22,540 --> 00:03:24,860 That's how it feels anyway. 51 00:03:24,860 --> 00:03:27,620 That's not to say I've never tried it. I have. 52 00:03:27,620 --> 00:03:30,300 I just never liked it. 53 00:03:30,300 --> 00:03:33,740 Even as a teenager when all my friends where out drinking, 54 00:03:33,740 --> 00:03:34,940 I always preferred to be out shooting silly films. 55 00:03:36,540 --> 00:03:36,940 Making music. 56 00:03:38,860 --> 00:03:41,620 Or sitting in my bedroom trying to save humanity 57 00:03:41,620 --> 00:03:43,020 from the latest threat of Armageddon. 58 00:03:46,420 --> 00:03:47,620 I even tried my hand at pro wrestling. 59 00:03:49,220 --> 00:03:51,940 I always had something more interesting to do. 60 00:03:51,940 --> 00:03:53,300 Alcohol just didn't stand a chance. 61 00:03:54,900 --> 00:03:56,220 But I saw the affects of it all around me, 62 00:03:57,420 --> 00:04:00,860 at home, on the streets. 63 00:04:00,860 --> 00:04:01,700 Fuck off! Fuck off! 64 00:04:02,620 --> 00:04:04,420 You having a lovely time? 65 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:06,780 On TV. 66 00:04:10,100 --> 00:04:10,540 In the news. 67 00:04:11,940 --> 00:04:12,460 Britain's got a major drinking problem... 68 00:04:14,020 --> 00:04:16,300 ...one in five of all deaths are caused by alcohol... 69 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:17,380 ...Britain's binge drinking culture... 70 00:04:17,380 --> 00:04:18,340 ...binge drinking... 71 00:04:18,340 --> 00:04:18,620 ...binge drinking... 72 00:04:19,540 --> 00:04:19,940 Forty Jaegers! 73 00:04:21,700 --> 00:04:23,460 Wherever I looked, people were getting pissed. 74 00:04:24,620 --> 00:04:27,380 DRUNKEN CHANTING 75 00:04:28,420 --> 00:04:29,020 So why do we do it? 76 00:04:30,580 --> 00:04:32,260 The British drink more than any other culture 77 00:04:32,260 --> 00:04:34,580 because they can handle it. 78 00:04:34,580 --> 00:04:35,460 And because we know how to have fun. 79 00:04:37,620 --> 00:04:39,820 Yeah it doesn't look that fun. But maybe it's just me. 80 00:04:41,740 --> 00:04:44,140 Alcohol is a potential menace to community safety 81 00:04:45,340 --> 00:04:46,580 as well as to his personal health. 82 00:04:48,100 --> 00:04:50,500 Absolutely, we should ban it entirely. 83 00:04:50,500 --> 00:04:51,980 The only obvious thing to do is to 84 00:04:51,980 --> 00:04:53,500 get rid of this scourge completely. 85 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:54,940 Well that sounds like a terrible idea. 86 00:04:56,900 --> 00:04:58,940 Violence, wanton destruction and utter lawlessness... 87 00:05:00,020 --> 00:05:01,980 - I think we can all agree 88 00:05:01,980 --> 00:05:04,180 we've built up a pretty bad reputation for ourselves 89 00:05:04,180 --> 00:05:06,140 when it comes to drinking, 90 00:05:06,140 --> 00:05:08,020 but this obsession with alcohol is nothing new. 91 00:05:09,940 --> 00:05:11,700 It's something that has been around for hundreds of years. 92 00:05:14,660 --> 00:05:17,580 For most of human history, and certainly until 93 00:05:17,580 --> 00:05:20,100 the late nineteenth century, 94 00:05:20,100 --> 00:05:22,540 water was basically unsafe to drink. 95 00:05:25,220 --> 00:05:27,940 In the sixteenth and seventeenth century, 96 00:05:27,940 --> 00:05:30,860 tea, coffee and soft drinks were all unavailable, 97 00:05:30,860 --> 00:05:32,900 so you'd find that old, young and 98 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:33,900 even children were drinking beer. 99 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:39,340 They were drinking a variety of beer called small beer, 100 00:05:39,340 --> 00:05:41,500 perhaps a little bit stronger than modern day Shandy. 101 00:05:43,340 --> 00:05:45,780 Working men felt that it gave them health and strength. 102 00:05:45,780 --> 00:05:49,060 ''Beer gives you muscle''. 103 00:05:49,060 --> 00:05:50,940 Men in hard physical jobs particularly 104 00:05:50,940 --> 00:05:53,580 would be drinking vast amounts, 105 00:05:53,580 --> 00:05:55,220 drinking up to three gallons of beer a day. 106 00:06:00,060 --> 00:06:02,660 In the early eighteenth century, 107 00:06:02,660 --> 00:06:04,700 gin drinking reached what people have seen 108 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:07,740 as an epidemic or a craze. 109 00:06:07,740 --> 00:06:12,060 Of course it's epitomized most famously in Hogarth's Gin Lane. 110 00:06:12,060 --> 00:06:13,860 Basically you could produce it and sell it 111 00:06:13,860 --> 00:06:15,740 more or less anywhere. 112 00:06:15,740 --> 00:06:19,100 So not only public houses sold gin, 113 00:06:19,100 --> 00:06:22,460 but grocery shops and general stores also sold gin. 114 00:06:22,460 --> 00:06:24,780 You could go in and buy 115 00:06:24,780 --> 00:06:28,180 some basic items and have a shot of gin on the side. 116 00:06:28,180 --> 00:06:30,740 They also used to sell the stuff on the streets, 117 00:06:30,740 --> 00:06:32,980 people would go around selling gin 118 00:06:32,980 --> 00:06:34,740 to the spectators at public executions. 119 00:06:37,460 --> 00:06:40,660 And then the First World War had a big impact. 120 00:06:40,660 --> 00:06:43,180 The government, and particularly the Ministry of Munitions 121 00:06:43,180 --> 00:06:45,860 and later Prime Minister Lloyd George 122 00:06:45,860 --> 00:06:48,380 identified drink as a real threat to the war effort. 123 00:06:48,380 --> 00:06:50,500 Famously he said 124 00:06:50,500 --> 00:06:52,260 'we are fighting Germany, Austria and drink, 125 00:06:52,260 --> 00:06:53,580 but the greatest enemy is drink.' 126 00:06:57,260 --> 00:06:59,940 In the Second World War, the Government saw drink and pubs 127 00:06:59,940 --> 00:07:02,140 as essential to maintaining morale. 128 00:07:02,140 --> 00:07:04,380 It was thought important to keep up a 129 00:07:04,380 --> 00:07:05,820 reasonable supply of beer to the troops. 130 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:10,900 There used to be a phrase 'beer and Britannia'. 131 00:07:10,900 --> 00:07:13,460 The French were identified with wine, 132 00:07:13,460 --> 00:07:14,420 so the English were identified with beer. 133 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:16,580 Well, yes, rather. 134 00:07:18,820 --> 00:07:21,540 In more modern times, from the nineteen fifties and sixties, 135 00:07:21,540 --> 00:07:23,940 alcohol consumption continued to rise. 136 00:07:26,540 --> 00:07:29,020 From the nineteen eighties it became a particular concern 137 00:07:29,020 --> 00:07:32,620 the eighties associated with football hooliganism 138 00:07:32,620 --> 00:07:33,460 or the 'lager lout' phenomenon. 139 00:07:40,260 --> 00:07:42,220 And then in the later twentieth century, 140 00:07:42,220 --> 00:07:43,380 the binge drinking phenomenon. 141 00:07:45,300 --> 00:07:48,180 One of the Government's aims in the 2003 licensing act 142 00:07:48,180 --> 00:07:51,220 was to try and persuade us to adopt a more 143 00:07:51,220 --> 00:07:54,500 'continental style' of drinking, 144 00:07:54,500 --> 00:07:57,580 where we drink sensibly as they do allegedly in French cafes, 145 00:07:57,580 --> 00:08:00,180 having cultural conversations, 146 00:08:00,180 --> 00:08:03,220 rather than binge drinking and falling out of pub doorways 147 00:08:03,220 --> 00:08:04,460 as allegedly we are doing here. 148 00:08:06,500 --> 00:08:08,460 I don't drink a lot of alcohol, 149 00:08:08,460 --> 00:08:11,300 I drink sometimes once a week. 150 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:15,900 And only if I am in a restaurant. 151 00:08:15,900 --> 00:08:19,060 I never drink alone, in my home or 152 00:08:19,060 --> 00:08:21,140 if I am alone with my kids or family, I never drink. 153 00:08:34,020 --> 00:08:36,780 We don't drink to be drunk, 154 00:08:36,780 --> 00:08:40,460 we drink to appreciate the wine or the alcohol. 155 00:08:42,660 --> 00:08:47,380 My opinion about the British? 156 00:08:47,380 --> 00:08:48,660 The first thing I would think about them, is binge drinking. 157 00:09:12,820 --> 00:09:14,900 I think they don't know what to do, 158 00:09:14,900 --> 00:09:18,140 and there is no interest in their lives, 159 00:09:18,140 --> 00:09:22,460 and they think that the only way to have fun is to drink. 160 00:09:42,300 --> 00:09:45,780 I think the first time I had alcohol it was for my birthday 161 00:09:45,780 --> 00:09:47,460 when I was thirteen, just one drink. 162 00:09:49,540 --> 00:09:52,500 My daughter is fifteen and she doesn't drink alcohol. 163 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:55,500 For their birthday they have the right to 164 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:58,500 put a finger in the glass and to taste it, 165 00:09:58,500 --> 00:10:02,820 normally they hate it 166 00:10:02,820 --> 00:10:04,140 and I am very happy about that. 167 00:10:06,300 --> 00:10:10,060 Quite famously people know that in France and Italy for example, 168 00:10:10,060 --> 00:10:12,420 quite young children are allowed or encouraged 169 00:10:12,420 --> 00:10:15,660 to have a bit of wine with dinner with their parents. 170 00:10:15,660 --> 00:10:19,300 In the UK, young people tend to have fewer meals with adults 171 00:10:19,300 --> 00:10:21,220 than in other countries 172 00:10:21,220 --> 00:10:22,860 and spend more time with friends. 173 00:10:22,860 --> 00:10:24,820 We tend to eat earlier in the UK 174 00:10:24,820 --> 00:10:27,060 which means parents often aren't home from work. 175 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:29,300 On the continent they eat dinner later, 176 00:10:29,300 --> 00:10:30,940 it sounds trivial, but it completely changes 177 00:10:30,940 --> 00:10:32,380 the dynamic of the family environment. 178 00:10:36,020 --> 00:10:38,460 In this country there has not been a culture 179 00:10:38,460 --> 00:10:42,140 of respecting alcohol or 180 00:10:42,140 --> 00:10:45,340 respecting the manufacture of alcohol 181 00:10:45,340 --> 00:10:47,580 or the produce of wine or things like that, 182 00:10:47,580 --> 00:10:48,860 we have never had that culture. 183 00:10:53,820 --> 00:10:57,740 You can be on the continent, France, Spain for example, 184 00:10:57,740 --> 00:11:01,100 and observe people in their late teens or early twenties 185 00:11:01,100 --> 00:11:05,220 happily socialising over a coffee or a milkshake, 186 00:11:05,220 --> 00:11:07,500 and alcohol isn't the point of purchase, 187 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:10,460 it's the social contact with each other. 188 00:11:10,460 --> 00:11:14,340 Whereas it's quite unusual to find that phenomena in the UK 189 00:11:14,340 --> 00:11:17,300 in the early evening, that young people would be socializing 190 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:18,860 in a non alcohol environment in that way. 191 00:11:21,740 --> 00:11:24,740 We are well known as a nation of boozers. 192 00:11:24,740 --> 00:11:28,100 Really in Britain there really isn't any stigma 193 00:11:28,100 --> 00:11:31,940 about being seen drunk in public. 194 00:11:31,940 --> 00:11:33,740 I think that's quite surprising for people from other countries. 195 00:11:34,740 --> 00:11:37,060 CROWD CHEERING 196 00:11:38,900 --> 00:11:42,140 In the US, I don't think you see that kind of binge drinking 197 00:11:42,140 --> 00:11:43,060 public drunkenness culture in quite the same way. 198 00:11:46,140 --> 00:11:49,980 There is obviously the Spring Break culture of going out 199 00:11:49,980 --> 00:11:51,460 and getting absolutely wrecked for about three or four weeks. 200 00:11:52,580 --> 00:11:53,740 Spring Break y'all! 201 00:11:54,780 --> 00:11:56,580 But outside of Spring Break 202 00:11:56,580 --> 00:11:59,820 I think they are quite a bit more disapproving 203 00:11:59,820 --> 00:12:01,980 of drunken behaviour. 204 00:12:01,980 --> 00:12:05,300 I don't think Americans tolerate drunkenness 205 00:12:05,300 --> 00:12:06,540 anything like the extent that we do. 206 00:12:10,620 --> 00:12:12,820 So the French seem to think we are a bunch of piss heads, 207 00:12:12,820 --> 00:12:14,100 but what do the Americans think? 208 00:12:14,940 --> 00:12:15,860 PIANO MUSIC 209 00:12:17,580 --> 00:12:19,340 So when you think about Britain 210 00:12:19,340 --> 00:12:19,900 and British culture what comes to mind? 211 00:12:21,620 --> 00:12:23,220 Err... Bangers and mash, fish and chips, pubs. 212 00:12:24,420 --> 00:12:28,060 Urm, soccer, drinking games, 213 00:12:28,060 --> 00:12:30,780 Tea and crumpets and bad teeth... 214 00:12:30,780 --> 00:12:32,180 sorry. Urm Guinness! 215 00:12:34,180 --> 00:12:37,060 The British like to drink, I mean they love to drink. 216 00:12:37,060 --> 00:12:39,220 They wake up in the morning and first thing outta the fridge, 217 00:12:39,220 --> 00:12:41,540 they're grabbing a beer. 218 00:12:41,540 --> 00:12:44,740 When I was living in London, I drank every day, 219 00:12:44,740 --> 00:12:47,260 seven days a week and it was definitely way more 220 00:12:47,260 --> 00:12:48,780 than I ever drink in America. 221 00:12:50,860 --> 00:12:53,500 It's like when you are there at five o'clock everyday, 222 00:12:53,500 --> 00:12:55,620 every businessperson goes to the pub. 223 00:12:55,620 --> 00:12:57,420 I think its kind of ingrained 224 00:12:57,420 --> 00:12:59,380 in their culture that you work, 225 00:12:59,380 --> 00:12:59,980 then to the pub, and then you go home. 226 00:13:01,340 --> 00:13:02,980 When I was in London, 227 00:13:02,980 --> 00:13:04,700 I was amazed by the fact that there 228 00:13:04,700 --> 00:13:07,220 were no open container laws, 229 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:09,940 and that everyone was in the streets drinking, 230 00:13:09,940 --> 00:13:14,500 it seemed like such a communal activity 231 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:17,500 that everyone could do together out in the streets. 232 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:20,060 And I definitely think there's not as much of a stigma 233 00:13:20,060 --> 00:13:21,020 as there is in the United States. 234 00:13:22,860 --> 00:13:25,180 I don't think anyone gives a crap 235 00:13:25,180 --> 00:13:27,820 in the UK when you go out and drink. 236 00:13:27,820 --> 00:13:28,660 It's a lot more acceptable. 237 00:13:30,180 --> 00:13:32,620 I watched this documentary 238 00:13:32,620 --> 00:13:35,580 and they had an ambulance that drives around, 239 00:13:35,580 --> 00:13:37,540 I think it's London, and picks up drunk people 240 00:13:37,540 --> 00:13:39,580 and hooks them up to an IV 241 00:13:39,580 --> 00:13:43,100 so that they don't die that night. 242 00:13:43,100 --> 00:13:45,420 I don't remember if it drops them home or to the hospital. 243 00:13:45,420 --> 00:13:47,700 But it's crazy. 244 00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:49,820 - The age limit. It's twenty one here and eighteen over there. 245 00:13:49,820 --> 00:13:51,900 That has a lot to do with it. 246 00:13:51,900 --> 00:13:54,740 So much more of being young is drinking. 247 00:13:54,740 --> 00:13:55,700 That's how they have fun. 248 00:13:57,980 --> 00:14:02,580 I've talked to people who are British and they are like, 249 00:14:02,580 --> 00:14:05,540 'my brother brought a keg at fifteen' so 250 00:14:05,540 --> 00:14:07,580 I really think they are just very relaxed about it. 251 00:14:09,460 --> 00:14:13,380 As you get older here, you drink a lot less, 252 00:14:13,380 --> 00:14:15,860 but there, even if it's just one drink 253 00:14:15,860 --> 00:14:17,020 you kind of just have a drink every day. 254 00:14:19,020 --> 00:14:20,940 So, Yeah... pretty much the same as the French. 255 00:14:23,100 --> 00:14:24,380 You may see a certain similarity, 256 00:14:24,380 --> 00:14:26,220 at least on the surface, 257 00:14:26,220 --> 00:14:28,540 between the famous pub, 258 00:14:28,540 --> 00:14:30,140 and the corner bar in the cities of America. 259 00:14:33,820 --> 00:14:36,980 The pub which is practically an institution in Britain 260 00:14:36,980 --> 00:14:39,860 is something like the state side corner bar only more so. 261 00:14:41,180 --> 00:14:42,660 It's more like a friendly club, 262 00:14:42,660 --> 00:14:45,100 a neighbourhood gathering place, 263 00:14:45,100 --> 00:14:47,740 where men can meet to share the quiet pleasures 264 00:14:47,740 --> 00:14:49,060 of a glass of beer and conversation. 265 00:14:50,380 --> 00:14:52,660 Where nothing is hurried. 266 00:14:52,660 --> 00:14:53,980 A little world all on its own. 267 00:14:56,460 --> 00:14:59,500 It's changed completely. I mean it's happened slowly 268 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:01,540 and fairly insidiously and I think when 269 00:15:01,540 --> 00:15:04,620 things happen so slowly, 270 00:15:04,620 --> 00:15:07,660 you don't notice until you turn around one day and think 271 00:15:07,660 --> 00:15:08,460 ' Oh my God, things have really changed'. 272 00:15:10,940 --> 00:15:13,260 All I have to say to someone is 273 00:15:13,260 --> 00:15:16,260 'look outside your front door, walk down the street. 274 00:15:16,260 --> 00:15:18,580 What building do you come to first, 275 00:15:18,580 --> 00:15:21,300 which is a public service, for the public?' 276 00:15:21,300 --> 00:15:23,100 And often it's a public house. It's a place to consume alcohol. 277 00:15:25,700 --> 00:15:29,340 If you look at a typical city centre or town centre in the UK, 278 00:15:29,340 --> 00:15:31,380 it tends to be populated by lots of pubs and clubs, 279 00:15:31,380 --> 00:15:33,220 which has been brilliant 280 00:15:33,220 --> 00:15:34,100 because it's spawned a music culture here. 281 00:15:35,180 --> 00:15:39,260 ROCK MUSIC 282 00:15:41,820 --> 00:15:45,820 But what it doesn't have is outside space for socialising. 283 00:15:45,820 --> 00:15:49,420 On the continent you tend to see big open town squares 284 00:15:49,420 --> 00:15:52,060 where adults and young people socialise in close proximity and 285 00:15:52,060 --> 00:15:55,140 there seems to be an association between that kind of socialising 286 00:15:55,140 --> 00:15:57,420 and a healthier attitude towards alcohol for obvious reasons, 287 00:15:57,420 --> 00:15:59,060 because you see parents and adults 288 00:15:59,060 --> 00:16:01,060 consuming alcohol over dinner 289 00:16:01,060 --> 00:16:03,420 in a more responsible normal way. 290 00:16:03,420 --> 00:16:07,700 So there's these countervailing, very deep rooted forces at work 291 00:16:07,700 --> 00:16:11,060 which prevent young people from having the exposure 292 00:16:11,060 --> 00:16:12,740 to responsible adult drinking 293 00:16:12,740 --> 00:16:14,020 that you see they have on the continent. 294 00:16:16,780 --> 00:16:19,100 Out of the slime and darkness it comes 295 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:22,860 to inflict its life destroying poison on the careless, 296 00:16:22,860 --> 00:16:26,300 the unwary, the unprotected. 297 00:16:26,300 --> 00:16:28,500 No sane person would deliberately 298 00:16:28,500 --> 00:16:29,700 expose themselves to its venom. 299 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:33,380 No intelligent person would come 300 00:16:33,380 --> 00:16:35,620 within striking distance of its fangs. 301 00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:39,820 Yet today, young people are flirting with a poison 302 00:16:39,820 --> 00:16:42,860 every bit as deadly as that of the snake. 303 00:16:44,060 --> 00:16:47,580 MENACING MUSIC 304 00:16:49,660 --> 00:16:52,460 Thank you children, now lets get back to work. 305 00:16:55,580 --> 00:16:59,740 I think it all starts with people being influenced by 306 00:16:59,740 --> 00:17:02,180 either their parents, or older brothers or sisters, 307 00:17:02,180 --> 00:17:04,660 or your mate's older brother and sisters. 308 00:17:04,660 --> 00:17:07,060 You see them having a good time, you see them getting drunk. 309 00:17:07,060 --> 00:17:09,140 That's where it starts. 310 00:17:09,140 --> 00:17:11,460 I'd say its more a cultural thing now, 311 00:17:11,460 --> 00:17:13,980 it's something that we have grown up with. 312 00:17:13,980 --> 00:17:16,460 It's something that when you go out, 313 00:17:16,460 --> 00:17:18,980 you automatically start drinking alcohol now with your mates. 314 00:17:18,980 --> 00:17:21,580 Drinking becomes almost associated with having fun 315 00:17:21,580 --> 00:17:23,780 people think to have fun you have to drink 316 00:17:23,780 --> 00:17:25,260 and so they get into a cycle like that. 317 00:17:25,260 --> 00:17:27,460 We had the school nurse come in, 318 00:17:27,460 --> 00:17:29,380 she showed us different bottles of alcohol 319 00:17:29,380 --> 00:17:31,500 'Don't drink this, it's bad for you'. 320 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:35,020 - Alcohol is bad, you shouldn't drink alcohol, 321 00:17:35,020 --> 00:17:38,940 and as for drugs well, drugs are bad, you shouldn't do drugs. 322 00:17:38,940 --> 00:17:41,060 - And telling you not to do something as a 323 00:17:41,060 --> 00:17:42,460 young person makes you want to do it? 324 00:17:42,460 --> 00:17:44,500 Can do yeah. 325 00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:47,460 That first drink isn't very enjoyable I can tell you. 326 00:17:47,460 --> 00:17:48,900 It burns your insides and its makes your eyes water. 327 00:17:50,540 --> 00:17:52,820 We had more education on how not to 328 00:17:52,820 --> 00:17:55,980 climb up on an electric pylon than we did on alcohol. 329 00:17:55,980 --> 00:17:58,580 We got nothing on alcohol until we were about sixteen, 330 00:17:58,580 --> 00:18:00,940 in our last years of school, 331 00:18:00,940 --> 00:18:03,300 by that time everybody had done it so it was like 332 00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:05,180 'why are you telling us now?'. 333 00:18:05,180 --> 00:18:08,140 My children at the age of eight and ten 334 00:18:08,140 --> 00:18:10,460 haven't had any tuition in that and I think 'why not?'. 335 00:18:12,860 --> 00:18:15,660 School isn't just academic ability, 336 00:18:15,660 --> 00:18:18,420 it's about social integration as well, 337 00:18:18,420 --> 00:18:21,660 and I think that is weak in this country. 338 00:18:21,660 --> 00:18:24,500 It's not even mandatory, it's an absolute disgrace. 339 00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:25,740 We'll give them all the academics, 340 00:18:25,740 --> 00:18:27,740 we'll have league tables, 341 00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:30,100 but when it comes to doing practical work in schools 342 00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:32,660 around health and wellbeing of young people, 343 00:18:32,660 --> 00:18:35,220 for their potential that can actually fuel 344 00:18:35,220 --> 00:18:37,780 the rest of the work they do, it doesn't happen. 345 00:18:37,780 --> 00:18:40,460 - They ask a few questions, an hour in a year. 346 00:18:40,460 --> 00:18:42,180 I don't know if we did have any talks about alcohol, 347 00:18:42,180 --> 00:18:44,260 I can't remember them. 348 00:18:44,260 --> 00:18:48,780 Sixty percent of schools give only one lesson a year, if that. 349 00:18:48,780 --> 00:18:52,220 And what they are using in the classroom is not evidence based. 350 00:18:52,220 --> 00:18:55,500 At high school age, even though your mind seems mature, 351 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:57,460 your body isn't and alcohol is a violent narcotic. 352 00:18:59,900 --> 00:19:02,620 I just question putting all the responsibility on schools 353 00:19:02,620 --> 00:19:03,780 because it's not like the other stuff you learn in school, 354 00:19:03,780 --> 00:19:05,500 like maths 355 00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:07,500 it's not factual, it's an attitude. 356 00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:10,820 Whatever they say in a lesson 357 00:19:10,820 --> 00:19:13,620 can't really fight against everything else 358 00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:15,900 around you in the world that you are learning. 359 00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:18,060 I believe it's parents and 360 00:19:18,060 --> 00:19:20,060 generally the way you're brought up at home. 361 00:19:20,060 --> 00:19:21,580 Parents obviously play a massive part 362 00:19:21,580 --> 00:19:23,220 in how their children grow up. 363 00:19:23,220 --> 00:19:24,900 This is a middle class problem 364 00:19:24,900 --> 00:19:26,660 that's behind closed doors, 365 00:19:26,660 --> 00:19:28,660 where the way we behave around drink, 366 00:19:28,660 --> 00:19:30,540 the way we talk about it, 367 00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:33,660 and the way we use it can impact on the behaviour of our children 368 00:19:33,660 --> 00:19:35,540 without realising it. 369 00:19:35,540 --> 00:19:39,540 When a man can't or thinks he can't measure up, 370 00:19:39,540 --> 00:19:42,420 he looks for a crutch, something to help him, he takes a drink. 371 00:19:42,420 --> 00:19:44,260 Don't look at your children's behaviour, 372 00:19:44,260 --> 00:19:45,340 look at your own. Thank you. 373 00:19:47,180 --> 00:19:48,780 We probably haven't with our parents 374 00:19:48,780 --> 00:19:51,700 spoken about drinking a lot, 375 00:19:51,700 --> 00:19:55,380 other than maybe we've come home after a party, 376 00:19:55,380 --> 00:19:57,260 been vomiting everywhere and they've said 377 00:19:57,260 --> 00:19:58,980 'You really shouldn't drink so much' 378 00:19:58,980 --> 00:20:01,100 but actually we're not dealing with the 'why?'. 379 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:03,100 Why did you absolutely get off your face? 380 00:20:03,100 --> 00:20:05,060 When I was around 20, 381 00:20:05,060 --> 00:20:07,620 it was all going a bit mad, 382 00:20:07,620 --> 00:20:09,580 I didn't understand that I could do anything differently 383 00:20:09,580 --> 00:20:11,180 because everyone that I saw around me 384 00:20:11,180 --> 00:20:12,220 was in the madness as well. 385 00:20:14,340 --> 00:20:17,900 I think we could do with educating our teens in Britain, 386 00:20:17,900 --> 00:20:20,860 before they head off into the madness. 387 00:20:22,380 --> 00:20:34,220 MUSIC 388 00:20:37,340 --> 00:20:40,900 As the sun goes down, society fades away, 389 00:20:40,900 --> 00:20:44,140 and what emerges from the shadows is a monster 390 00:20:44,140 --> 00:20:47,980 of low inhibitions, aggression, and casual chaos. 391 00:20:49,900 --> 00:20:51,780 It's almost like every night we go to war. 392 00:20:51,780 --> 00:20:52,580 With ourselves. 393 00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:54,780 EXPLOSIONS AND GUNFIRE 394 00:20:56,540 --> 00:21:00,100 On one side you've got the police, the emergency services, 395 00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:03,380 the council and various groups of volunteers. 396 00:21:03,380 --> 00:21:05,620 And on the other side you got, well... 397 00:21:05,620 --> 00:21:06,980 everyone else. 398 00:21:06,980 --> 00:21:07,780 BANG 399 00:21:09,380 --> 00:21:12,620 Are you fucking videoing this?! Fuck your mum bruv. 400 00:21:12,620 --> 00:21:18,380 We fight and we fight, it's just that nobody ever wins. 401 00:21:18,380 --> 00:21:19,660 EXPLOSIONS AND GUNFIRE 402 00:21:20,780 --> 00:21:22,940 You go out to get off your face, 403 00:21:22,940 --> 00:21:25,500 you go out and drink a load 404 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:28,220 that's what most people understand by binge drinking. 405 00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:31,300 Some countries will define that as having six units of alcohol, 406 00:21:31,300 --> 00:21:36,820 but that's only two thirds of a bottle of wine. 407 00:21:36,820 --> 00:21:39,900 That doesn't feel like a binge to most British people. 408 00:21:39,900 --> 00:21:42,500 It might to people in other countries, 409 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:44,100 but to a lot of British people that doesn't feel like a binge. 410 00:21:46,540 --> 00:21:48,140 I drank a lot in the early days when I first started 411 00:21:48,140 --> 00:21:50,260 ten, twelve pints a day. 412 00:21:50,260 --> 00:21:52,180 Every day. 413 00:21:52,180 --> 00:21:54,180 I could go out and drink twenty pints of lager 414 00:21:54,180 --> 00:21:56,860 and walk home okay. 415 00:21:56,860 --> 00:21:59,940 I see people who are drinking a bottle and half of vodka a day, 416 00:21:59,940 --> 00:22:01,740 I mean, that's a lot. 417 00:22:01,740 --> 00:22:05,100 If you drank that right now, you might die. 418 00:22:05,100 --> 00:22:08,180 But to them they are just maintaining an equilibrium. 419 00:22:08,180 --> 00:22:11,540 We have this phrase 'binge drinking', 420 00:22:11,540 --> 00:22:13,860 making out that in between these mad sessions of alcohol, 421 00:22:15,180 --> 00:22:16,700 people aren't using anything at all, 422 00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:17,940 but that's not what's happening. 423 00:22:17,940 --> 00:22:18,580 People are drinking all the time. 424 00:22:20,340 --> 00:22:23,380 I binge drink like hell, I'm not going to lie. 425 00:22:23,380 --> 00:22:26,100 I drink everyday, I'm going to die soon, 426 00:22:26,100 --> 00:22:28,300 but it's not too bad, I live my life. 427 00:22:28,300 --> 00:22:31,340 If we had no alcohol, no cigarettes, 428 00:22:31,340 --> 00:22:34,900 if we had none of that, this place would be so boring. 429 00:22:34,900 --> 00:22:37,540 It's like fast food. If we had no fast food what would we eat? 430 00:22:37,540 --> 00:22:38,540 We'd eat nothing. It would be horrible. 431 00:22:39,460 --> 00:22:42,540 MUSIC 432 00:22:44,660 --> 00:22:47,940 If anyone makes a statement that in Europe it's better, 433 00:22:47,940 --> 00:22:50,140 I say 'where's the evidence?'. 434 00:22:50,140 --> 00:22:52,940 I think that Europe, as opposed to Britain, Europe is different. 435 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:57,220 Well there is evidence, because liver disease is going up here 436 00:22:57,220 --> 00:22:59,700 and in most of Europe is going down so 437 00:22:59,700 --> 00:23:02,220 surely that suggests that it is worse here? 438 00:23:02,220 --> 00:23:02,740 That's possible. 439 00:23:09,620 --> 00:23:13,620 In the past ten years, the number of people under thirty 440 00:23:13,620 --> 00:23:17,380 who are going to hospital for liver problems caused by alcohol 441 00:23:17,380 --> 00:23:20,460 has gone up by one hundred and seventeen percent 442 00:23:20,460 --> 00:23:23,420 and in particular regions of the country it is even higher. 443 00:23:23,420 --> 00:23:25,100 In the north east of England, 444 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:27,180 it's gone up by four hundred percent. 445 00:23:27,180 --> 00:23:29,220 I mean these are catastrophic levels 446 00:23:29,220 --> 00:23:31,540 of liver damage taking place. 447 00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:35,380 It's really unusual in the rest of Europe 448 00:23:35,380 --> 00:23:38,340 to see people in their twenties or thirties with liver disease, 449 00:23:38,340 --> 00:23:40,740 but it is something that is happening 450 00:23:40,740 --> 00:23:42,300 to a whole generation of people in Britain. 451 00:23:43,900 --> 00:24:00,260 MUSIC 452 00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:16,020 MUSIC 453 00:24:18,620 --> 00:24:19,900 Oi mate, you left some of your Chinese on the floor. 454 00:24:20,580 --> 00:24:22,300 LAUGHING 455 00:24:24,940 --> 00:24:27,060 You will always see people joking about a drunk and 456 00:24:27,060 --> 00:24:29,220 thinking that's great, and I laugh at that as well 457 00:24:29,220 --> 00:24:30,140 and I think it's very funny 458 00:24:30,140 --> 00:24:31,100 but actually it's rather sad. 459 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:42,900 I'm not sure there are many responsible drinkers 460 00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:43,380 in this world, 461 00:24:44,980 --> 00:24:46,140 I certainly can't claim to be a responsible drinker. 462 00:24:47,340 --> 00:24:53,460 MUSIC 463 00:24:55,740 --> 00:24:57,820 The medics told us to stop filming 464 00:24:57,820 --> 00:24:59,060 while they help this guy covered in sick. 465 00:25:01,660 --> 00:25:03,980 Then they turned around and started laughing at us. 466 00:25:03,980 --> 00:25:06,140 They accused us of wasting their time 467 00:25:06,140 --> 00:25:09,100 because this guy was only 'pissed' 468 00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:11,300 and the fact that we were concerned for his health 469 00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:12,380 was apparently really funny. 470 00:25:14,380 --> 00:25:16,580 It just goes to show how normalised 471 00:25:16,580 --> 00:25:18,860 scenes like this are on our streets 472 00:25:18,860 --> 00:25:19,980 and how we've all essentially become numb to it. 473 00:25:26,380 --> 00:25:28,740 Their ethos is 474 00:25:28,740 --> 00:25:30,900 we could be attending an incident 475 00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:33,140 that could be far more serious, 476 00:25:33,140 --> 00:25:35,940 but we've got to be here with you, 477 00:25:35,940 --> 00:25:38,940 and you have put yourself in that condition, 478 00:25:38,940 --> 00:25:39,940 and I totally agree with them. 479 00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:44,220 Go to A and E any night 480 00:25:44,220 --> 00:25:47,300 and it is full of people who have broken things, or 481 00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:50,300 have blood everywhere, or 482 00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:53,380 who are completely disorientated, 483 00:25:53,380 --> 00:25:55,260 somebody's attacked them or they've attacked somebody 484 00:25:55,260 --> 00:25:57,460 and the person's hit back. 485 00:25:57,460 --> 00:26:00,140 And they don't really know how they've got there... 486 00:26:00,140 --> 00:26:00,940 because they're drunk. 487 00:26:04,260 --> 00:26:06,980 As a GP a huge proportion of my time 488 00:26:06,980 --> 00:26:08,940 is spent dealing with people with alcohol problems 489 00:26:08,940 --> 00:26:10,820 and not just dealing with patients, 490 00:26:10,820 --> 00:26:12,820 it's dealing with their families, 491 00:26:12,820 --> 00:26:17,380 it's dealing with the social, psychological wreck 492 00:26:17,380 --> 00:26:19,180 that results from one member of the family 493 00:26:19,180 --> 00:26:21,020 having alcohol problems. 494 00:26:21,020 --> 00:26:24,220 I've seen patients where 495 00:26:24,220 --> 00:26:26,620 I've gone in to talk to them and made it 496 00:26:26,620 --> 00:26:29,300 perfectly clear to them that they are going to 497 00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:31,540 kill themselves if they don't stop drinking. 498 00:26:31,540 --> 00:26:33,860 And their response is 499 00:26:33,860 --> 00:26:35,940 'if those are my choices, I'm ready to die.' 500 00:26:36,940 --> 00:26:40,140 MUSIC 501 00:26:42,140 --> 00:26:44,460 Violence is a significant challenge for us. 502 00:26:45,620 --> 00:26:48,460 Fifty percent of that violence 503 00:26:48,460 --> 00:26:51,660 we know to be fuelled by alcohol. 504 00:26:51,660 --> 00:26:55,340 It impacts families and children, 505 00:26:55,340 --> 00:26:57,860 it puts a load on our hospitals 506 00:26:57,860 --> 00:27:01,140 and a huge load on policing, 507 00:27:01,140 --> 00:27:03,540 and where would people want their police 508 00:27:03,540 --> 00:27:06,300 not policing bars and clubs 509 00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:08,620 at three or four o'clock in the morning, 510 00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:11,060 but to actually be available during the day 511 00:27:11,060 --> 00:27:13,580 to reassure people and be solving crimes and 512 00:27:13,580 --> 00:27:15,620 doing the sort of things that police do. 513 00:27:15,620 --> 00:27:17,460 So if fifty percent of violent crime 514 00:27:17,460 --> 00:27:20,340 with all the damage that it does 515 00:27:20,340 --> 00:27:24,260 is alcohol related, there is no case. 516 00:27:24,260 --> 00:27:25,540 We must do something about this. 517 00:27:27,980 --> 00:27:29,260 So in terms of economic costs, what are we looking at here? 518 00:27:31,380 --> 00:27:33,780 Alcohol costs this country 21 billion pounds every year. 519 00:27:35,100 --> 00:27:37,140 That's the best estimate we have 520 00:27:37,140 --> 00:27:40,060 it's the one with the clearest evidence base behind it, 521 00:27:40,060 --> 00:27:40,900 but it's not perfect, and others have estimated it's higher. 522 00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:46,180 And that's broken down into the cost of crime itself, 523 00:27:46,180 --> 00:27:48,860 lack of productivity and NHS costs. 524 00:27:50,660 --> 00:27:54,580 In 2011, we had 1.2 million hospital admissions 525 00:27:54,580 --> 00:27:56,900 related directly to alcohol in the UK 526 00:27:56,900 --> 00:27:59,300 and that's an increase in the last ten years 527 00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:02,380 of about a hundred and thirty five percent. 528 00:28:02,380 --> 00:28:04,420 I mean, this situation that we are in 529 00:28:04,420 --> 00:28:07,260 at the moment is absolutely horrendous. 530 00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:09,460 If we don't literally address this right now, 531 00:28:11,140 --> 00:28:13,020 I wouldn't like to think of where we are going to be. 532 00:28:15,820 --> 00:28:17,940 APPLAUSE 533 00:28:19,420 --> 00:28:23,100 Whenever a person in the public eye 534 00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:26,300 comes out and tells the world they are in recovery, 535 00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:29,380 it inspires thousands of people 536 00:28:29,380 --> 00:28:30,580 to try and do the same thing. 537 00:28:32,220 --> 00:28:37,820 I am therefore delighted to nervously introduce 538 00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:38,700 Russell Brand to you. 539 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:42,220 APPLAUSE 540 00:28:45,420 --> 00:28:46,420 Hello Everyone, I'm Russell and I'm an addict. 541 00:28:47,500 --> 00:28:49,380 LAUGHING 542 00:28:51,060 --> 00:28:52,300 I did that to weed out other addicts. 543 00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:56,140 Who here is prepared to admit 544 00:28:56,140 --> 00:28:58,900 to having a drug or alcohol problem? 545 00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:01,780 Oh fucking hell, I'm gonna rinse this. It will be a doddle. 546 00:29:01,780 --> 00:29:04,180 I'm not here as a famous person 547 00:29:04,180 --> 00:29:05,260 or a celebrity or anything, 548 00:29:05,260 --> 00:29:06,980 I am here as a drug addict. 549 00:29:06,980 --> 00:29:11,220 As a famous drug addict I can raise attention 550 00:29:11,220 --> 00:29:12,820 I'm a professional attention seeker, I do it 551 00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:14,460 to a professional standard. 552 00:29:14,460 --> 00:29:16,580 I've been highly paid for attention seeking. 553 00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:17,900 But I'm here today 554 00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:20,260 Chip never fails to remind me 555 00:29:20,260 --> 00:29:21,580 that I am a bog standard drug addict. 556 00:29:21,580 --> 00:29:23,500 Nothing special, 557 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,820 unusual, different, or unique about my drug addiction. 558 00:29:25,820 --> 00:29:28,460 I'm a very ordinary drug addict. 559 00:29:28,460 --> 00:29:31,220 In fact when I first met Chip, 560 00:29:31,220 --> 00:29:33,060 about eleven and a half years ago now 561 00:29:33,060 --> 00:29:34,580 I'm about eleven years clean. 562 00:29:34,580 --> 00:29:36,340 I remember his words. 563 00:29:36,340 --> 00:29:39,260 He was very condemnatory and casually callous 564 00:29:39,260 --> 00:29:41,260 and I remember being sort of vaguely offended. 565 00:29:41,260 --> 00:29:43,540 He said 'oh, you're a complete garbage head. 566 00:29:43,540 --> 00:29:47,540 If you don't stop taking drugs now, 567 00:29:47,540 --> 00:29:50,540 you'll be dead, in prison, or in a lunatic asylum, 568 00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:52,660 within six months'. 569 00:29:52,660 --> 00:29:55,660 I thought, 'fuck me that's a heavy verdict from this guy'. 570 00:29:55,660 --> 00:29:58,340 But I still didn't think 'oh I'd better stop then'. 571 00:29:58,340 --> 00:30:00,460 I just thought 'Oh no.' 572 00:30:00,460 --> 00:30:03,460 I just felt a bit desperate. 573 00:30:03,460 --> 00:30:04,660 I was hoping to go on holiday. 574 00:30:05,420 --> 00:30:06,340 LAUGHING 575 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:13,820 I drank initially because I used to feel nervous. 576 00:30:13,820 --> 00:30:16,060 I didn't like the taste of booze at first. 577 00:30:16,060 --> 00:30:18,500 Then I realised, 'oh my god it makes me super confident' 578 00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:20,860 it sort of gave me another identity. 579 00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:22,660 I've never been any good at modulating, 580 00:30:22,660 --> 00:30:24,540 moderating or controlling things, 581 00:30:24,540 --> 00:30:28,180 so I'd drink real cheap booze from the off license, 582 00:30:28,180 --> 00:30:31,540 like a seven quid bottle of white rum 583 00:30:31,540 --> 00:30:35,180 or some dodgy tequila, and sip it throughout the day 584 00:30:35,180 --> 00:30:37,900 and once in a while if I had a particularly challenging 585 00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:39,780 obstacle ahead, I'd drink a whole bottle of it. 586 00:30:39,780 --> 00:30:41,620 In a kind of stupor. 587 00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:44,060 My mates here, Sharon and Martino, 588 00:30:44,060 --> 00:30:46,620 both knew me at that time and I remember 589 00:30:46,620 --> 00:30:50,460 a journey from Martino's house in Rome 590 00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:53,940 to Sharon who was meeting me at Stansted Airport that day. 591 00:30:53,940 --> 00:30:58,420 I nicked a litre of vodka from duty free in Rome, 592 00:30:58,420 --> 00:31:01,140 drank it, and it's only a two hour flight, 593 00:31:01,140 --> 00:31:04,260 by the time I arrived I was like a giddy delirious idiot. 594 00:31:04,260 --> 00:31:06,860 Sharon reminds me that the security guard said 595 00:31:06,860 --> 00:31:08,700 'can you keep your monkey under control.' 596 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:12,220 I was in a right state. 597 00:31:12,220 --> 00:31:14,100 You can really mess yourself up with that legal drug alcohol. 598 00:31:15,660 --> 00:31:17,460 It is a serious problem. 599 00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:19,140 If you're drinking excessively 600 00:31:19,140 --> 00:31:21,300 it's going to create problems for yourself, 601 00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:23,620 in the short term, the long term, the medium term. 602 00:31:23,620 --> 00:31:25,660 It's a problematic substance, 603 00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:28,300 unless you got no proclivity towards addiction at all. 604 00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:30,820 That's something you need to be aware of. That's my experience. 605 00:31:30,820 --> 00:31:32,340 The only community I've ever 606 00:31:32,340 --> 00:31:34,660 really felt actually a part of, 607 00:31:34,660 --> 00:31:37,580 not outside of, is the community of drug addicts and alcoholics. 608 00:31:37,580 --> 00:31:39,780 At school I didn't feel like I fitted in. 609 00:31:39,780 --> 00:31:42,220 I didn't feel like I fitted in anywhere. 610 00:31:42,220 --> 00:31:44,900 I'm an only child from a single mother and 611 00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:47,100 I didn't feel like I fitted in my family. 612 00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:49,500 It's only one other fucking person. 613 00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:53,260 It's hard to develop an identity as an outsider 614 00:31:53,260 --> 00:31:55,580 under those conditions. 615 00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:58,540 I wasn't a recreational drug user, not from the get go. 616 00:31:58,540 --> 00:32:01,620 For me it was medicinal from the first ever time I took drugs. 617 00:32:01,620 --> 00:32:04,220 I was unhappy, I was miserable, 618 00:32:04,220 --> 00:32:07,140 I felt lost, I felt alone and if anyone could offer me anything 619 00:32:07,140 --> 00:32:09,420 that would deal with that feeling I'd have it. 620 00:32:09,420 --> 00:32:11,180 When I was a kid chocolate biscuits, 621 00:32:11,180 --> 00:32:13,860 when I was an adolescent pornography, 622 00:32:13,860 --> 00:32:16,980 when someone came along with drugs, I'd take it. I'd do it. 623 00:32:16,980 --> 00:32:20,220 And I believe that for we drug addicts and alcoholics, 624 00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:22,860 we've got a spiritual craving, a yearning 625 00:32:22,860 --> 00:32:25,020 and we don't have the language, the code 626 00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:27,860 to express that in our society. 627 00:32:27,860 --> 00:32:30,380 But the feeling won't go away so you gotta nullify it, 628 00:32:30,380 --> 00:32:32,180 anaesthetize it somehow. I can't live with it. 629 00:32:32,180 --> 00:32:36,420 I can't be alive 630 00:32:36,420 --> 00:32:38,940 unless I'm living in love and community with other people, 631 00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:41,340 I can't cope with it. 632 00:32:41,340 --> 00:32:44,380 My only other option is to take drugs. 633 00:32:44,380 --> 00:32:46,820 Because the feelings behind my drug use and my alcoholism, 634 00:32:46,820 --> 00:32:47,180 they haven't gone nowhere. 635 00:32:49,780 --> 00:32:52,220 Some drugs are great fun, all drugs can be fun used correctly. 636 00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:54,220 Like booze as well. 637 00:32:54,220 --> 00:32:57,300 It does a lovely job on occasions, loosening people up, 638 00:32:57,300 --> 00:32:58,580 but when there are social conditions 639 00:32:58,580 --> 00:33:00,460 like we have currently, 640 00:33:00,460 --> 00:33:03,300 where there's a kind of an economic deprivation, 641 00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:08,140 and where there is no moral or spiritual centre to our life, 642 00:33:08,140 --> 00:33:10,940 I think it's really easy for all drugs 643 00:33:10,940 --> 00:33:14,140 to play too a significant a role in a culture, 644 00:33:14,140 --> 00:33:15,020 and I think that's happened with booze in this country. 645 00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:27,940 MUSIC 646 00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:32,940 When I see bankers taking people's money 647 00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:35,340 and doing exactly what they want with it, 648 00:33:35,340 --> 00:33:37,020 and when they're in trouble we bail them out. 649 00:33:37,020 --> 00:33:38,780 Are you for real?! 650 00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:40,980 We could start by shooting all the bankers, 651 00:33:40,980 --> 00:33:42,900 hanging all the politicians. 652 00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:44,460 A socialist society has got to be better than this. 653 00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:59,020 ROCK BAND PLAYS 'GOD SAVE THE QUEEN' 654 00:34:01,180 --> 00:34:03,380 Fuck the Tories, fuck Margret Thatcher 655 00:34:03,380 --> 00:34:04,500 and I look forward to her being worm food. 656 00:34:06,180 --> 00:34:09,820 ROCK BAND PLAYS 'GOD SAVE THE QUEEN' 657 00:34:11,700 --> 00:34:15,020 You are a hideous disgusting excuse for a human being 658 00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:16,740 and I'm so glad you're dead.... cheers. 659 00:34:19,380 --> 00:34:22,020 In a society where people are feeling lost, hopeless, 660 00:34:22,740 --> 00:34:24,260 disenfranchised 661 00:34:25,660 --> 00:34:29,220 then they are going to turn to alternative ways 662 00:34:29,220 --> 00:34:30,140 of dealing with it and 663 00:34:31,820 --> 00:34:33,140 you can either choose drugs or you can choose alcohol. 664 00:34:34,900 --> 00:34:37,900 So when stuff in our life get too much 665 00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:40,340 we just turn to alcohol because it's so easy to do that. 666 00:34:40,340 --> 00:34:42,460 Even small amounts of alcohol 667 00:34:42,460 --> 00:34:43,900 may provide an illusion of relaxation, 668 00:34:45,660 --> 00:34:48,420 the person usually feels confident everything is alright. 669 00:34:51,540 --> 00:34:54,860 Our government, has done it's best to curtail 670 00:34:54,860 --> 00:34:58,460 people's access to any other forms of drug. 671 00:34:58,460 --> 00:34:59,820 That's something that needs to be understood 672 00:34:59,820 --> 00:35:01,660 right from the beginning 673 00:35:01,660 --> 00:35:06,580 alcohol is a drug, as is Marijuana, as is coffee. 674 00:35:06,580 --> 00:35:08,300 But it's a question of having a look 675 00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:09,580 at which are most constructive 676 00:35:09,580 --> 00:35:10,580 and which are most detrimental. 677 00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:15,380 Most of the information and the facts that I know about alcohol 678 00:35:15,380 --> 00:35:18,380 have come mainly from Professor Nutt. 679 00:35:18,380 --> 00:35:22,540 As he said in the BBC news, alcohol is more harmful 680 00:35:22,540 --> 00:35:24,300 than heroin or crack 681 00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:25,900 when the overall dangers to the individual 682 00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:27,780 and society are considered 683 00:35:27,780 --> 00:35:29,380 according to the study in the Lancet. 684 00:35:29,380 --> 00:35:30,980 So heroin is not dangerous? 685 00:35:30,980 --> 00:35:33,580 Of course heroin is dangerous, 686 00:35:33,580 --> 00:35:35,540 I wouldn't recommend anyone to take it! 687 00:35:35,540 --> 00:35:38,260 The media tend to take a very sensationalist 688 00:35:38,260 --> 00:35:41,620 and hysterical view about drugs. 689 00:35:41,620 --> 00:35:45,260 - You've compared the dangers of ecstasy to horse riding. 690 00:35:45,260 --> 00:35:46,780 You haven't read the paper have you? 691 00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:47,900 Notorious drugs gangs. 692 00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:48,860 Ecstasy and Speed. 693 00:35:48,860 --> 00:35:50,380 Illegal drugs. 694 00:35:50,380 --> 00:35:51,260 Drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs. 695 00:35:51,260 --> 00:35:52,580 Shoot the drugs! 696 00:35:55,740 --> 00:35:57,700 So a few years ago I started to get 697 00:35:57,700 --> 00:36:00,340 interested in the relative harms of drugs. 698 00:36:00,340 --> 00:36:01,660 Why are some drugs legal and some illegal? 699 00:36:03,220 --> 00:36:05,940 And we pulled together an expert panel, 700 00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:07,620 and we used a new technique 701 00:36:07,620 --> 00:36:10,380 called Multi criteria Decision Analysis, 702 00:36:10,380 --> 00:36:13,300 which looks at all the kinds of harms a drug can do 703 00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:15,820 whether it can kill you when you take it, 704 00:36:15,820 --> 00:36:18,740 to whether it actually causes environmental problems. 705 00:36:18,740 --> 00:36:21,500 We discovered there were sixteen separate harms 706 00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:22,980 and we ranked all the drugs on those harms, 707 00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:24,100 and then we weighted the harms. 708 00:36:26,180 --> 00:36:27,900 And amazingly out of that, to my surprise, 709 00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:30,540 alcohol came top. 710 00:36:30,540 --> 00:36:32,900 Alcohol is the most harmful drug in the UK. 711 00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:35,220 When you look at the reasons for that, 712 00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:39,740 you see that it's because of the social harms. 713 00:36:39,740 --> 00:36:43,380 The harms due to health costs, due to traffic accidents, 714 00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:46,300 due to violence in the streets, and domestic violence 715 00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:48,220 those are the things that make alcohol 716 00:36:48,220 --> 00:36:51,020 in the UK the most harmful drug. 717 00:36:51,020 --> 00:36:53,740 - Anybody that fools around with this, adult or minor, 718 00:36:53,740 --> 00:36:55,420 is playing with dynamite. 719 00:36:57,860 --> 00:37:00,300 The drug laws do not reflect the science, 720 00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:02,100 they do not reflect the harms. 721 00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:05,260 Therefore they are wrong, i.e. they are unjust. 722 00:37:05,260 --> 00:37:09,900 Promoting that statement to society is 723 00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:11,900 a necessary thing because unjust laws are bad laws. 724 00:37:13,420 --> 00:37:15,060 What I've discovered was that the government 725 00:37:15,060 --> 00:37:15,780 did not want that message. 726 00:37:19,180 --> 00:37:21,420 As I was promoting this rational approach, 727 00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:23,900 the politicians where saying 728 00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:27,620 'this cuts right against the way we want to portray the world' 729 00:37:27,620 --> 00:37:29,100 and eventually they got irritated and sacked me. 730 00:37:31,140 --> 00:37:34,500 Do you stand by what you said in 2009 that got you sacked? 731 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:36,780 Well yes I do. And since then I've realised there have been 732 00:37:38,260 --> 00:37:40,620 greater problems as a result of some of the 733 00:37:40,620 --> 00:37:42,700 failure to be logical about drugs. 734 00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:45,180 - It sort of implied that governments 735 00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:46,420 can do whatever they like with scientists. 736 00:37:46,420 --> 00:37:48,860 If they don't like the evidence, 737 00:37:48,860 --> 00:37:51,060 they get rid of the scientists, shoot the messenger. 738 00:37:51,060 --> 00:37:53,580 Science is critical to defining the scale of the problem 739 00:37:53,580 --> 00:37:55,100 and finding solutions. 740 00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:57,100 So if you're gonna get rid of people 741 00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:58,100 who say things you don't like, 742 00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:01,580 you will most certainly make the situation worse. 743 00:38:03,180 --> 00:38:05,660 He hadn't done his homework. 744 00:38:05,660 --> 00:38:08,540 It's those same weasel words he's sticking to. 745 00:38:08,540 --> 00:38:10,980 They even bought and paid for his leadership. 746 00:38:10,980 --> 00:38:13,620 Once again the Prime Minister doesn't know his facts. 747 00:38:13,620 --> 00:38:16,380 I'd suggest a different line of questioning. 748 00:38:16,380 --> 00:38:19,060 The question has been asked. Let's hear the answer. 749 00:38:19,060 --> 00:38:20,660 Thank you Mr Speaker, 750 00:38:20,660 --> 00:38:22,780 I know the Prime Minister will want 751 00:38:22,780 --> 00:38:25,260 to thank all those fantastic NHS staff 752 00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:27,580 who are rolling up their sleeves and doing everything they can 753 00:38:27,580 --> 00:38:30,740 to reduce avoidable early deaths. 754 00:38:30,740 --> 00:38:33,660 They're asking the PM for Minimum Unit Pricing 755 00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:36,300 in order to help them do their job 756 00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:37,380 and stop people falling into addiction in the first place. 757 00:38:40,060 --> 00:38:42,420 Minimum Pricing is sitting nervously on death row, 758 00:38:42,420 --> 00:38:44,420 will the Prime Minister give it a reprieve, 759 00:38:44,420 --> 00:38:46,820 at least until we know the outcome 760 00:38:46,820 --> 00:38:48,580 from the Sheffield report and the Scottish courts? 761 00:38:50,820 --> 00:38:52,740 What we will be able to introduce is something 762 00:38:52,740 --> 00:38:54,900 the last government never did, 763 00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:57,740 which is to say it should be illegal to sell alcohol 764 00:38:57,740 --> 00:39:00,980 below the price of duty plus VAT. 765 00:39:00,980 --> 00:39:04,460 That is something in all the binge drinking problems 766 00:39:04,460 --> 00:39:05,420 we had under Labour, they never managed to do. 767 00:39:09,420 --> 00:39:11,740 My Lords, 768 00:39:11,740 --> 00:39:16,100 Minimum Unit Pricing will not be taken forward at present 769 00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:17,860 but it will remain a policy under consideration. 770 00:39:19,860 --> 00:39:21,940 I think Minimum Unit Pricing is a big part of the answer. 771 00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:26,340 So said David Cameron last year, 772 00:39:26,340 --> 00:39:29,740 but when it comes to tackling cheap booze in England and Wales 773 00:39:29,740 --> 00:39:31,340 it seems he doesn't have the support 774 00:39:31,340 --> 00:39:32,260 he thought he had. 775 00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:35,260 It's political suicide to start talking 776 00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:37,220 about raising alcohol prices 777 00:39:37,220 --> 00:39:40,140 and I think when Cameron came out in favour... 778 00:39:40,140 --> 00:39:42,820 in fact, announced that this was going to happen, 779 00:39:42,820 --> 00:39:45,460 it was quite a surprise for a lot of people. 780 00:39:45,460 --> 00:39:49,180 The Government's own department in 2008 781 00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:53,140 showed that increasing the price of alcohol 782 00:39:53,140 --> 00:39:56,020 led to a step decline in alcohol consumption and 783 00:39:56,020 --> 00:39:58,220 was the most effective way of managing it. 784 00:39:58,220 --> 00:40:01,020 Why then has the Government changed it's mind? 785 00:40:01,020 --> 00:40:03,620 It announced its intention to increase alcohol pricing 786 00:40:03,620 --> 00:40:05,020 that was widely welcomed. 787 00:40:05,020 --> 00:40:06,940 Why does it ignore the evidence 788 00:40:06,940 --> 00:40:08,980 on something which is very urgent 789 00:40:08,980 --> 00:40:10,860 and which can save lives, reduce hospital admissions 790 00:40:10,860 --> 00:40:12,580 and reduce crime? 791 00:40:12,580 --> 00:40:14,380 - What's happened to it since then is 792 00:40:14,380 --> 00:40:17,900 a fairly familiar tale of 793 00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:20,700 what happens to Government policies when 794 00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:23,020 they run up against powerful interests 795 00:40:23,020 --> 00:40:24,340 that don't want them to happen. 796 00:40:24,340 --> 00:40:25,980 And what you have is 797 00:40:25,980 --> 00:40:27,340 who's got the most powerful lobbyists 798 00:40:27,340 --> 00:40:29,500 and how do they get their way? 799 00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:31,140 It was interesting why there was so much 800 00:40:31,140 --> 00:40:32,060 opposition to Minimum Pricing. 801 00:40:33,740 --> 00:40:36,460 I feel that there's a lot more questions to be asked 802 00:40:36,460 --> 00:40:39,620 than just the simple thing of Minimum Pricing. 803 00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:42,060 The young people who go out every weekend 804 00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:44,740 think nothing of spending 50 pounds or 100 pounds 805 00:40:44,740 --> 00:40:46,700 with taxies and drink and everything else. 806 00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:48,660 This is an anti competitive suggestion 807 00:40:48,660 --> 00:40:49,380 which is only going to hurt the legitimate consumers. 808 00:40:51,180 --> 00:40:53,020 There is an evidence base that Minimum Pricing works. 809 00:40:53,020 --> 00:40:55,420 I mean, come on! It's quite obvious. 810 00:40:55,420 --> 00:40:56,820 So, countries where it's happened 811 00:40:56,820 --> 00:40:58,780 Canada is the most recent example 812 00:40:58,780 --> 00:41:02,260 see a huge improvement. 813 00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:05,740 The Libertarian argument about Minimum Pricing, 814 00:41:05,740 --> 00:41:07,900 which is that people should be free to choose 815 00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:09,940 is sort of taken away, 816 00:41:09,940 --> 00:41:13,700 or mitigated by the fact that with alcohol, 817 00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:16,380 people drink and the harm they do is not just to themselves, 818 00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:17,620 it's to others. 819 00:41:17,620 --> 00:41:20,420 SCREECHING TYRES 820 00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:23,300 CRASH 821 00:41:26,740 --> 00:41:29,020 Well, there's the result 822 00:41:29,020 --> 00:41:31,060 just another victim of a drunk driver. 823 00:41:33,580 --> 00:41:35,900 Part of the problem with alcohol is our drug policy drives up use 824 00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:40,820 alcohol is too liberally available. 825 00:41:40,820 --> 00:41:41,980 And the other drugs are too constrained. 826 00:41:43,220 --> 00:41:45,260 My personal opinion on having drugs 827 00:41:45,260 --> 00:41:47,060 illegal at this point in history, 828 00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:49,100 is it's a Medieval mentality 829 00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:50,980 practised by Medieval politicians 830 00:41:50,980 --> 00:41:52,700 to punish an entire class of people. 831 00:41:54,580 --> 00:41:58,700 I don't have a great deal of faith in Parliamentary politics, 832 00:41:58,700 --> 00:41:59,940 so I went to speak to the Home Office Select Committee. 833 00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:01,740 Hello. 834 00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:03,260 Hello. 835 00:42:05,220 --> 00:42:08,820 Good morning Mr Brand, please have a seat. 836 00:42:10,660 --> 00:42:12,660 Whether or not it had an impact, me talking at the 837 00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:14,900 Home Office Select Committee I would doubt it. 838 00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:17,300 I think these things are about display more than function. 839 00:42:19,220 --> 00:42:22,340 For me, what's more significant, is the way 840 00:42:22,340 --> 00:42:26,740 that we socially regard the condition of addiction. 841 00:42:26,740 --> 00:42:28,980 It's something that I consider to be an illness 842 00:42:28,980 --> 00:42:31,220 and therefore more a health matter 843 00:42:31,220 --> 00:42:34,460 than a criminal or judicial matter. 844 00:42:34,460 --> 00:42:37,220 And drug addicts don't give a shit if drugs are illegal. 845 00:42:37,220 --> 00:42:39,460 It doesn't slow the process down. 846 00:42:39,460 --> 00:42:41,220 No one's ever going 'Oh No!' 847 00:42:42,940 --> 00:42:44,940 Being arrested isn't a lesson, 848 00:42:44,940 --> 00:42:47,260 it's just an administrative blip. 849 00:42:47,260 --> 00:42:49,740 You need to demonstrate an awareness of the situation 850 00:42:49,740 --> 00:42:51,940 or you seem like you don't know what you're talking about. 851 00:42:51,940 --> 00:42:52,940 - But the victims of crime... 852 00:42:52,940 --> 00:42:55,020 We've talked about them! 853 00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:55,820 You can tell what party they're in by their questions, innit. 854 00:42:57,340 --> 00:42:58,580 'What about the victims of the crime!'. 855 00:42:59,900 --> 00:43:01,380 The Government likes alcohol. 856 00:43:01,380 --> 00:43:04,140 It likes the tax benefits of alcohol, 857 00:43:04,140 --> 00:43:07,740 it likes to essentially continue with this image 858 00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:10,500 that alcohol is a safe drug if used responsibly, 859 00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:12,580 and it likes looking tough on other drugs 860 00:43:12,580 --> 00:43:15,060 because that fits into this sort of attitude 861 00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:16,980 that politicians are strong and can make hard decisions. 862 00:43:18,780 --> 00:43:22,420 It's one of the great public health scandals 863 00:43:22,420 --> 00:43:27,580 of the last century, that we do not properly take account 864 00:43:27,580 --> 00:43:29,540 of what's happening in terms of alcohol and health damage. 865 00:43:31,820 --> 00:43:35,620 The singer Amy Winehouse has been found dead at her flat, 866 00:43:35,620 --> 00:43:39,180 the 27 year old discovered at her property in North London 867 00:43:39,180 --> 00:43:42,460 by emergency services, at around six... 868 00:43:42,460 --> 00:43:44,580 - We knew she was an alcoholic. 869 00:43:44,580 --> 00:43:46,380 She'd been in rehab, her family knew about her problem 870 00:43:46,380 --> 00:43:48,180 they tried to help her. 871 00:43:48,180 --> 00:43:50,900 Why did the British public refuse to believe 872 00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:55,060 that a women we saw as a walking train wreck for years, 873 00:43:55,060 --> 00:43:57,460 that she did of alcoholism, 'Oh no she must have died of drugs'. 874 00:43:57,460 --> 00:43:59,100 I'd been banging on 875 00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:01,220 that she hadn't taken drugs for three years, 876 00:44:01,220 --> 00:44:03,420 and everyone thought I was in denial. 877 00:44:03,420 --> 00:44:05,820 I wasn't in denial, she hadn't taken drugs. 878 00:44:05,820 --> 00:44:09,540 She was a tiny, tiny little girl 879 00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:12,700 who drank like George Best on a stag night every night. 880 00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:14,340 Of course she died of alcohol poisoning 881 00:44:14,340 --> 00:44:16,140 but we don't want to see it 882 00:44:16,140 --> 00:44:17,220 because it's too frightening. 883 00:44:20,340 --> 00:44:22,900 We should be telling people how dangerous alcohol is, 884 00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:24,340 and we should be using examples like her. 885 00:44:34,180 --> 00:44:36,700 Like they say a lot don't they, that anyone can get clean 886 00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:38,220 and that actually is really hard. 887 00:44:38,220 --> 00:44:40,380 The first time someone said to me 888 00:44:40,380 --> 00:44:42,780 'try to get to bed tonight without drinking or using', 889 00:44:42,780 --> 00:44:47,660 I was like 'What?! What do you mean? It's seven o'clock, 890 00:44:47,660 --> 00:44:50,340 there's too much day left for that amount 891 00:44:50,340 --> 00:44:51,820 of consciousness and awakeness. 892 00:44:52,620 --> 00:44:55,940 MUSIC 893 00:44:57,500 --> 00:44:59,900 It's a strong drinking culture. 894 00:44:59,900 --> 00:45:01,740 I think it's sort of expected, it's almost a rights of passage 895 00:45:01,740 --> 00:45:04,180 getting older, your first pint. 896 00:45:04,180 --> 00:45:06,860 I think it's something you're expected to do, 897 00:45:06,860 --> 00:45:08,460 and I think if you don't drink you're outside of the norm. 898 00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:10,740 FIREWORKS 899 00:45:11,540 --> 00:45:13,820 Happy New Year! 900 00:45:15,940 --> 00:45:17,740 Fucking drop it into 2k 14 in style! 901 00:45:19,300 --> 00:45:23,540 It is incredibly entrenched. 902 00:45:23,540 --> 00:45:26,220 The baby is born and you wet the baby's head... 903 00:45:26,220 --> 00:45:29,700 the eighteenth birthday party. 904 00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:30,660 It's part of life, it's part of everything. 905 00:45:33,820 --> 00:45:36,580 It's so bound up. 906 00:45:36,580 --> 00:45:38,100 It's a bit like the nuclear bomb, we've got it, 907 00:45:38,100 --> 00:45:38,700 we are where we are. 908 00:45:40,980 --> 00:45:43,780 But that doesn't mean we shouldn't ask questions about it 909 00:45:43,780 --> 00:45:45,220 and ask 'why are we here, and is it the right place to be?'. 910 00:45:47,660 --> 00:45:51,380 I was trying to buy an eighteenth birthday card 911 00:45:51,380 --> 00:45:53,460 for a relative of mine for last year, 912 00:45:53,460 --> 00:45:58,220 that did not mention drunkenness and alcohol, 913 00:45:58,220 --> 00:46:01,540 and I had to look at twenty five cards 914 00:46:01,540 --> 00:46:04,860 before I eventually found one that was alcohol free. 915 00:46:04,860 --> 00:46:05,460 And that sums it up. 916 00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:08,860 We get wasted when we're happy, 917 00:46:08,860 --> 00:46:10,580 we get wasted because we're bored, 918 00:46:10,580 --> 00:46:12,660 we get wasted because we are excited, sad, 919 00:46:12,660 --> 00:46:15,180 celebrating, getting married or divorced, 920 00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:16,580 because someone was born, because someone died. 921 00:46:16,580 --> 00:46:19,860 He turned water into wine, 922 00:46:19,860 --> 00:46:22,780 it was important to Jesus that the ceremony went well, 923 00:46:22,780 --> 00:46:23,980 and that guests had enough alcohol to drink. 924 00:46:26,780 --> 00:46:29,180 Well these guests don't seem to be having any trouble with that. 925 00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:31,540 This guy's got loads of alcohol. 926 00:46:32,660 --> 00:46:34,580 The groom is drinking, 927 00:46:34,580 --> 00:46:35,180 and so is the bride. 928 00:46:35,740 --> 00:46:36,420 And him. 929 00:46:37,020 --> 00:46:37,460 And her. 930 00:46:38,620 --> 00:46:39,420 And that old man over there. 931 00:46:42,340 --> 00:46:43,540 Oh wait, its time for the speeches! Shush be quiet. 932 00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:47,620 I think I was less successful in convincing Lucy 933 00:46:47,620 --> 00:46:49,620 that she wouldn't need 934 00:46:49,620 --> 00:46:51,900 half a bottle of champagne this morning, 935 00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:54,260 at home, before the church service. 936 00:46:54,260 --> 00:46:56,140 I s'pose I should blame myself 937 00:46:56,140 --> 00:46:58,620 for turning you into something of an alchie, 938 00:46:58,620 --> 00:47:01,140 stumbling into the gutter on the way home from your local. 939 00:47:01,140 --> 00:47:03,420 I'm absolutely desperate for a proper drink. 940 00:47:03,420 --> 00:47:06,140 We always get there eventually... the pub that is. 941 00:47:06,140 --> 00:47:08,580 Keep your eyes set on that goal, the great pub of life. 942 00:47:08,580 --> 00:47:11,100 When in doubt or times of stress, 943 00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:12,140 find comfort in the bottom of a wine glass. 944 00:47:13,340 --> 00:47:13,940 Cheers! 945 00:47:15,220 --> 00:47:17,980 - Yes, some real good advice there. 946 00:47:17,980 --> 00:47:20,460 It's almost like this day was based around alcohol 947 00:47:20,460 --> 00:47:22,220 and getting as drunk as possible. 948 00:47:22,220 --> 00:47:25,260 Are you really going to that wedding 949 00:47:25,260 --> 00:47:28,300 to watch Jack and Jill get married? No, you're not. 950 00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:31,860 You're actually going because you think you have a free bar. 951 00:47:31,860 --> 00:47:34,380 It's not about the ceremony at all, 952 00:47:34,380 --> 00:47:35,820 it's all about what's going to happen afterwards. 953 00:47:38,540 --> 00:47:41,540 For several millennia, the Christian church has used wine 954 00:47:43,140 --> 00:47:45,460 as a symbol of the blood of Christ. 955 00:47:45,460 --> 00:47:48,340 So it's part of what is I suppose 956 00:47:48,340 --> 00:47:53,020 the major defining social cohesive group, 957 00:47:53,020 --> 00:47:53,460 the church. 958 00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:59,780 I often wondered what happened to alcoholics who were Catholic, 959 00:47:59,780 --> 00:48:03,380 who had to go and have a sip of wine. 960 00:48:03,380 --> 00:48:06,780 There wasn't an alcohol free... 961 00:48:06,780 --> 00:48:08,020 so I think there is something there. 962 00:48:10,340 --> 00:48:13,860 Alcohol is not evil which the bible doesn't teach that it is. 963 00:48:13,860 --> 00:48:16,780 A Christian taking some wine 964 00:48:16,780 --> 00:48:21,380 or alcoholic drink is quite legitimate, 965 00:48:21,380 --> 00:48:24,180 as long as they are moderate and self controlled. 966 00:48:26,060 --> 00:48:29,180 I think religion has a very big influence over people's lives. 967 00:48:30,460 --> 00:48:32,100 So with that in mind 968 00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:34,020 and all the references to alcohol in the Bible, 969 00:48:34,020 --> 00:48:35,700 do you think Christianity plays a role 970 00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:36,180 in the UK's alcohol problem? 971 00:48:37,340 --> 00:48:40,180 Yeah alcohol in Christianity 972 00:48:40,180 --> 00:48:44,100 is a little bit of a controversial subject 973 00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:46,140 but I don't think it is anything to do with 974 00:48:46,140 --> 00:48:48,340 Christianity in the UK. 975 00:48:48,340 --> 00:48:50,940 You could go to America where 976 00:48:50,940 --> 00:48:52,660 Christianity is quite prevalent and 977 00:48:52,660 --> 00:48:54,900 you don't have the same problems there. 978 00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:57,780 It's something to do with the mind set that we have here. 979 00:48:57,780 --> 00:49:01,260 A lot of youngsters that I talk to, 980 00:49:01,260 --> 00:49:05,420 especially here in our city and around our community, 981 00:49:05,420 --> 00:49:09,340 have no aspirations, no visions, 982 00:49:10,260 --> 00:49:11,540 nothing to aim for, 983 00:49:13,340 --> 00:49:16,460 and their lives seem hollow and empty, 984 00:49:16,460 --> 00:49:20,060 and they try to fill that void with all sorts and 985 00:49:20,060 --> 00:49:22,140 it's drugs, it's sex and it's alcohol. 986 00:49:24,220 --> 00:49:26,580 MUSIC 987 00:49:28,180 --> 00:49:30,060 We live in a culture now where 988 00:49:30,060 --> 00:49:32,060 in many other walks of life, 989 00:49:32,060 --> 00:49:35,180 we're expected to consume excessively. 990 00:49:35,180 --> 00:49:37,180 We're told consumption's a good thing 991 00:49:37,180 --> 00:49:39,020 and we're supposed to desire things, 992 00:49:39,020 --> 00:49:40,060 especially when they're cheap and pleasurable. 993 00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:45,060 There's so much evidence of the psychological effects 994 00:49:45,060 --> 00:49:48,220 of exposure to advertising of branded goods 995 00:49:48,220 --> 00:49:51,700 which give you a sense of what it is to be an adult, 996 00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:54,380 or a sophisticated individual. 997 00:49:54,380 --> 00:49:56,140 I think it impacts on young people's attitudes to themselves 998 00:49:56,140 --> 00:49:57,900 and their self esteem. 999 00:49:57,900 --> 00:49:59,660 I think one of the most insidious changes we've seen 1000 00:49:59,660 --> 00:50:01,740 in the last twenty years 1001 00:50:01,740 --> 00:50:03,820 is the way the drinks industry has 1002 00:50:03,820 --> 00:50:04,940 tried to get to it's consumers younger and younger. 1003 00:50:06,980 --> 00:50:09,620 So the invention of alcopops, the marketing of alcopops 1004 00:50:09,620 --> 00:50:11,460 by the alcohol industry to attract a new type of drinker. 1005 00:50:13,220 --> 00:50:16,220 Designed specifically at getting young people, 1006 00:50:16,220 --> 00:50:18,140 particularly girls, into alcohol in their teens. 1007 00:50:20,220 --> 00:50:23,540 It's in the streets, next to schools, on our televisions. 1008 00:50:23,540 --> 00:50:24,460 It's advertised around sports. 1009 00:50:25,580 --> 00:50:27,060 Gerrard! He's got it! 1010 00:50:28,380 --> 00:50:29,860 Oh Steven Gerrard! 1011 00:50:32,140 --> 00:50:34,700 We know that it does get through to young people. 1012 00:50:34,700 --> 00:50:37,460 We recently did a study of ten and eleven year olds 1013 00:50:37,460 --> 00:50:39,340 and asked them to recognise different 1014 00:50:39,340 --> 00:50:42,020 types of brands and logos, 1015 00:50:42,020 --> 00:50:44,380 and ninety five percent of the ten and eleven year olds 1016 00:50:44,380 --> 00:50:48,060 recognised Fosters and Stella Artois, 1017 00:50:48,060 --> 00:50:49,580 but they didn't recognise cake and ice cream brands. 1018 00:50:51,580 --> 00:50:55,100 Even we at alcohol concern were surprised by those results. 1019 00:50:57,380 --> 00:50:58,740 I just see a pattern where in countries 1020 00:50:58,740 --> 00:51:00,860 where advertising's banned 1021 00:51:00,860 --> 00:51:03,180 and the advertising industry behaves more responsibly 1022 00:51:03,180 --> 00:51:03,700 in the marketing of goods, 1023 00:51:05,940 --> 00:51:07,780 young peoples lives are less commercialised, 1024 00:51:07,780 --> 00:51:09,660 they're less exposed to those influences 1025 00:51:09,660 --> 00:51:12,300 and they tend to behave in a more responsible way, 1026 00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:14,060 with regards to alcohol, consumerism, and other products. 1027 00:51:15,380 --> 00:51:20,260 FRENCH ADVERT 1028 00:51:22,260 --> 00:51:24,740 In France, you're allowed to advertise alcohol products 1029 00:51:24,740 --> 00:51:27,260 but you can't have all of the imagery 1030 00:51:27,260 --> 00:51:29,900 and exotic nature surrounding the advert. 1031 00:51:31,780 --> 00:51:34,580 You can advertise on the basis of what's in the product, 1032 00:51:34,580 --> 00:51:36,100 where the product was made, 1033 00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:38,140 and the strength of the product. 1034 00:51:38,140 --> 00:51:41,260 But you can't have a story line and characters 1035 00:51:41,260 --> 00:51:45,140 and they also don't have alcohol sponsors of sporting events. 1036 00:51:45,140 --> 00:51:48,060 So the Heineken cup in France is called the 'H Cup' 1037 00:51:48,060 --> 00:51:49,380 and we think something similar should happen in Britain. 1038 00:51:51,340 --> 00:52:05,460 SPORTING CROWD AMBIENCE 1039 00:52:07,540 --> 00:52:10,300 Let's go fucking mental, la la la la! 1040 00:52:12,420 --> 00:52:14,580 Your point is to stop drugs and alcoholism 1041 00:52:14,580 --> 00:52:15,620 by people never starting? 1042 00:52:17,060 --> 00:52:18,340 You two believe in this fantasy of addiction 1043 00:52:18,340 --> 00:52:19,500 in which people lose... 1044 00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:21,020 - Fantasy of addiction? 1045 00:52:21,020 --> 00:52:22,780 Oh a complete fantasy, in which people 1046 00:52:22,780 --> 00:52:27,580 lose all power over themselves and 1047 00:52:27,580 --> 00:52:28,220 become victims of this terrible, frightening disease. 1048 00:52:29,900 --> 00:52:33,980 I'm a person that if I have a drink I can't stop, 1049 00:52:33,980 --> 00:52:37,100 and so if I follow your ideology I'm choosing to do that? 1050 00:52:38,100 --> 00:52:39,860 That I'm choosing... 1051 00:52:39,860 --> 00:52:41,620 - That's exactly my, not my ideology it's my belief yes. 1052 00:52:41,620 --> 00:52:41,900 You do choose. 1053 00:52:43,780 --> 00:52:47,380 It's an obsession of your mind and an allergy of your body, 1054 00:52:47,380 --> 00:52:49,700 so this is what happens to me, I start thinking about alcohol, 1055 00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:52,700 I can't stop thinking about it. 1056 00:52:52,700 --> 00:52:53,900 - What's the objective physical proof of this inability to stop? 1057 00:52:55,740 --> 00:53:00,900 I think it's very difficult for people who aren't alcoholic 1058 00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:03,020 or don't have a problem with alcohol 1059 00:53:03,020 --> 00:53:06,740 to see what it's like to be an alcoholic. 1060 00:53:06,740 --> 00:53:09,740 It just looks stupid, it looks ridiculous. It's like 1061 00:53:09,740 --> 00:53:10,620 'just stop it'. 1062 00:53:12,420 --> 00:53:15,540 It won't happen to everybody, it happens to a minority of people. 1063 00:53:15,540 --> 00:53:18,540 I think that is why it's difficult 1064 00:53:18,540 --> 00:53:19,340 for people it doesn't happen to to get their heads round it. 1065 00:53:21,980 --> 00:53:26,340 I have an obsession of the mind that compels me to drink, 1066 00:53:26,340 --> 00:53:29,660 and when I do drink I have a physical allergic reaction 1067 00:53:29,660 --> 00:53:31,580 which manifests itself in the phenomenon of craving. 1068 00:53:33,420 --> 00:53:37,300 I was a cheat, I was a liar, I was a thief. 1069 00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:38,900 I was full of resentments and I was full of fear. 1070 00:53:43,020 --> 00:53:45,500 If you are the person who is dependent, 1071 00:53:45,500 --> 00:53:46,820 who has to wake up every morning 1072 00:53:48,420 --> 00:53:51,980 and your first thought is 1073 00:53:51,980 --> 00:53:53,980 'I feel ill, 1074 00:53:53,980 --> 00:53:56,660 I feel shaky, 1075 00:53:56,660 --> 00:53:59,500 and I know what will work is if I have some alcohol 1076 00:53:59,500 --> 00:54:01,700 I will immediately feel better'. 1077 00:54:03,220 --> 00:54:07,100 That's in some ways quite a simple existence, 1078 00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:08,140 but it's really frightening. 1079 00:54:10,140 --> 00:54:14,260 People who you might imagine are pillars of society 1080 00:54:14,260 --> 00:54:16,860 are often hiding all sorts of stories. 1081 00:54:18,580 --> 00:54:21,180 The only way we can even get a hint of that 1082 00:54:21,180 --> 00:54:25,740 is in the kind of confessional, 1083 00:54:25,740 --> 00:54:27,460 either of the church or the therapy room. 1084 00:54:30,780 --> 00:54:32,660 Images like this have become synonymous with our country. 1085 00:54:34,180 --> 00:54:35,940 But there's a whole other side 1086 00:54:35,940 --> 00:54:37,100 to alcohol abuse that we don't see. 1087 00:54:39,380 --> 00:54:39,860 SIGH 1088 00:54:41,140 --> 00:54:41,780 Fucking hell man. 1089 00:54:43,020 --> 00:54:43,780 This is my uncle John. 1090 00:54:45,740 --> 00:54:51,580 So I'm probably an alcoholic. 1091 00:54:53,500 --> 00:54:53,980 Probably. 1092 00:54:56,780 --> 00:55:01,580 Yeah I've got a bit here, but that's it. 1093 00:55:03,020 --> 00:55:04,260 It's just a sip. 1094 00:55:07,460 --> 00:55:09,220 What is that? Is that whisky? 1095 00:55:09,220 --> 00:55:10,460 That's whisky yes. 1096 00:55:12,140 --> 00:55:13,020 Do you want some? 1097 00:55:13,020 --> 00:55:14,180 No. 1098 00:55:14,180 --> 00:55:17,660 LAUGHING 1099 00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:21,060 OK, no problem. 1100 00:55:22,860 --> 00:55:25,380 I used to drink wine and beer 1101 00:55:27,660 --> 00:55:29,620 and all kinds of fucking rubbish. 1102 00:55:34,060 --> 00:55:36,220 But I don't anymore, I drink just a little bit of whisky, 1103 00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:37,900 that's all. 1104 00:55:38,780 --> 00:55:39,780 But I'm just a sipper, 1105 00:55:41,660 --> 00:55:43,340 I'm not a swigger. 1106 00:55:44,460 --> 00:55:45,500 I just sip, 1107 00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:49,380 you can see 1108 00:55:52,060 --> 00:55:53,020 I've hardly touched it. 1109 00:55:57,420 --> 00:56:00,300 Whether he sips it or not, 1110 00:56:00,300 --> 00:56:01,820 he gets through two bottles of whisky every day. 1111 00:56:04,860 --> 00:56:06,460 This comes to about eighty units of alcohol, 1112 00:56:08,380 --> 00:56:10,900 which is twenty six times his recommended daily limit. 1113 00:56:13,660 --> 00:56:16,820 He's been diagnosed with Wernicke's Encephalopathy, 1114 00:56:16,820 --> 00:56:18,940 also known as 'The Disease of Alcoholics'. 1115 00:56:20,780 --> 00:56:22,860 It affects me in many ways, 1116 00:56:24,180 --> 00:56:25,620 I haven't left the house 1117 00:56:26,940 --> 00:56:28,460 in more than six months. 1118 00:56:32,300 --> 00:56:32,820 I can't. 1119 00:56:34,460 --> 00:56:37,060 I can't even get to the corner shops these days. 1120 00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:42,380 All right, so... Yeah, Yeah, I, I've... 1121 00:56:44,980 --> 00:56:46,300 I don't wear shoes anymore, 1122 00:56:48,780 --> 00:56:49,460 there's no point. 1123 00:56:56,260 --> 00:57:01,940 Maria, my wife has to go out and do all the shopping. 1124 00:57:04,220 --> 00:57:04,780 And my son... 1125 00:57:05,660 --> 00:57:07,580 COUGHING 1126 00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:11,900 has to go to school by himself. 1127 00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:14,260 But that's OK. It's working. 1128 00:57:16,540 --> 00:57:17,220 Everything's working. 1129 00:57:29,740 --> 00:57:32,220 What, so sometimes he's better than this, 1130 00:57:32,220 --> 00:57:32,940 and sometimes he's worse? 1131 00:57:43,580 --> 00:57:44,300 So how long have you been like this? 1132 00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:48,140 God. 1133 00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:50,980 COUGHS 1134 00:57:50,980 --> 00:57:52,020 Quite a long time, 1135 00:57:54,340 --> 00:57:55,260 quite a long time. 1136 00:57:56,900 --> 00:57:59,900 I would say about maybe a year. 1137 00:58:02,180 --> 00:58:05,780 I just fucking lost all comprehension 1138 00:58:06,940 --> 00:58:08,380 of everything. 1139 00:58:09,980 --> 00:58:12,100 Maria would come in with some food, 1140 00:58:13,820 --> 00:58:15,540 which meant nothing. 1141 00:58:16,860 --> 00:58:17,700 I didn't understand it. 1142 00:58:19,740 --> 00:58:22,580 I'd look at it 1143 00:58:22,580 --> 00:58:25,100 and I'd have not a clue 1144 00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:26,060 what I was supposed to do with it. 1145 00:58:27,940 --> 00:58:31,420 I could still drink some whisky, 1146 00:58:32,820 --> 00:58:33,580 that was OK. 1147 00:58:37,860 --> 00:58:39,260 But I couldn't understand food 1148 00:58:40,700 --> 00:58:41,980 at all. 1149 00:58:43,220 --> 00:58:44,780 I couldn't understand anything. 1150 00:58:46,420 --> 00:58:47,580 So you didn't eat for quite a long time? 1151 00:58:48,740 --> 00:58:49,820 Yes, a very long time. 1152 00:58:51,620 --> 00:58:52,060 Do you eat now? 1153 00:58:53,340 --> 00:58:55,020 I'm trying. 1154 00:58:58,380 --> 00:59:00,540 Trying to force feed myself, 1155 00:59:02,820 --> 00:59:04,540 trying to learn how to 1156 00:59:07,300 --> 00:59:07,780 eat again. 1157 00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:10,700 Here you are! - Here we are, yes. 1158 00:59:12,380 --> 00:59:13,820 John, are you going to come eat with us? 1159 00:59:13,820 --> 00:59:15,660 No, I'm OK. I've got some whisky. 1160 00:59:21,220 --> 00:59:23,020 I couldn't fucking figure it out, 1161 00:59:24,540 --> 00:59:26,660 I had no idea what the hell was going on, 1162 00:59:29,140 --> 00:59:30,980 and that's when I went to the hospital. 1163 00:59:33,460 --> 00:59:37,260 To Liverpool hospital. 1164 00:59:38,540 --> 00:59:39,220 God it was horrible. 1165 00:59:41,780 --> 00:59:42,380 How long where you there for? 1166 00:59:43,420 --> 00:59:43,900 Nine days. 1167 00:59:50,860 --> 00:59:53,060 They found a little bit of brain damage, 1168 00:59:54,500 --> 00:59:55,180 not much. 1169 00:59:57,860 --> 01:00:00,180 Then one of the nurses said 1170 01:00:02,300 --> 01:00:05,140 'everything you've taken in your life 1171 01:00:06,420 --> 01:00:07,580 has caught up with you', 1172 01:00:09,460 --> 01:00:10,980 which I personally don't believe. 1173 01:00:12,140 --> 01:00:14,380 It's some kind of 1174 01:00:15,820 --> 01:00:17,620 God knows what. 1175 01:00:17,620 --> 01:00:18,060 SPITS 1176 01:00:19,180 --> 01:00:19,820 Urm... 1177 01:00:21,740 --> 01:00:22,220 Christ... 1178 01:00:23,260 --> 01:00:23,980 It was a... 1179 01:00:25,700 --> 01:00:26,580 COUGHING 1180 01:00:29,500 --> 01:00:30,940 fucking hell... I can't remember 1181 01:00:32,020 --> 01:00:34,500 what it's called. 1182 01:00:41,060 --> 01:00:41,860 What happened to your face? 1183 01:00:43,420 --> 01:00:44,180 Last night, 1184 01:00:47,340 --> 01:00:49,780 I had a fall in the bathroom, 1185 01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:54,260 a bad one, 1186 01:00:55,780 --> 01:00:57,900 fucking blood everywhere. 1187 01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:00,260 I've broken my nose, 1188 01:01:02,220 --> 01:01:04,340 which is OK, it's straight 1189 01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:07,860 so that will heal by itself. 1190 01:01:09,540 --> 01:01:12,260 COUGHING 1191 01:01:13,860 --> 01:01:14,940 So I'm not worried about that. 1192 01:01:18,340 --> 01:01:20,540 I'm starting to get a bit drunk, so that helps. 1193 01:01:22,980 --> 01:01:23,580 That helps does it? 1194 01:01:24,980 --> 01:01:27,020 Yes, it does. 1195 01:01:29,780 --> 01:01:31,780 I spend most of my time in bed, 1196 01:01:33,020 --> 01:01:33,940 in here. 1197 01:01:35,940 --> 01:01:39,460 I'm living down here in bed 1198 01:01:39,460 --> 01:01:42,500 so I can get to the bathroom, 1199 01:01:42,500 --> 01:01:43,860 because I have to go about twenty times a day. 1200 01:01:46,300 --> 01:01:50,500 Sometimes it's not possible to get to the bathroom. 1201 01:01:54,380 --> 01:01:55,220 That's pretty difficult. 1202 01:01:58,140 --> 01:02:00,380 I normally wear, 1203 01:02:00,380 --> 01:02:02,060 not jeans but... 1204 01:02:03,220 --> 01:02:03,900 bathroom... 1205 01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:05,780 what do you call them? 1206 01:02:07,220 --> 01:02:07,820 Pyjamas? 1207 01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:09,740 Pyjamas, yes. 1208 01:02:11,140 --> 01:02:13,900 That's what I normally wear, 1209 01:02:15,580 --> 01:02:17,540 because it can fall through 1210 01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:21,980 onto the floor and then I can clean it up, 1211 01:02:24,740 --> 01:02:26,100 which is not very nice. 1212 01:02:30,140 --> 01:02:31,780 You know, having to do a shit on the floor 1213 01:02:33,340 --> 01:02:35,860 is not that easy, 1214 01:02:39,180 --> 01:02:41,220 but I'm sort of getting used to it. 1215 01:02:45,740 --> 01:02:47,100 Just poo comes down here. 1216 01:02:54,340 --> 01:02:55,140 How does Patrick feel about your drinking? 1217 01:02:56,580 --> 01:02:57,620 Err... 1218 01:02:59,500 --> 01:03:00,420 Err... 1219 01:03:02,860 --> 01:03:03,420 Err... 1220 01:03:03,940 --> 01:03:05,060 nothing. 1221 01:03:08,260 --> 01:03:10,460 I don't know, I really don't know. 1222 01:03:12,980 --> 01:03:16,020 Ouch. This is really hurting. 1223 01:03:20,220 --> 01:03:21,580 Do you think you'll ever get better? 1224 01:03:22,740 --> 01:03:23,820 I don't know, 1225 01:03:25,060 --> 01:03:25,620 I really don't know. 1226 01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:27,860 I have no idea. 1227 01:03:32,740 --> 01:03:34,700 It doesn't look good. 1228 01:03:38,060 --> 01:03:42,540 I really don't think it looks good... 1229 01:03:44,260 --> 01:03:48,900 MUSIC 1230 01:03:50,900 --> 01:03:52,460 My uncle hasn't always been like this. 1231 01:03:54,420 --> 01:03:56,860 This was the first time I'd see him in three years 1232 01:03:56,860 --> 01:03:58,340 and it was shocking to see how much he had changed, 1233 01:04:00,940 --> 01:04:02,060 but for me the most disturbing thing of all 1234 01:04:03,860 --> 01:04:05,380 is the lack of treatment available for people like him. 1235 01:04:08,100 --> 01:04:11,260 Access to treatment is a huge issue. 1236 01:04:11,260 --> 01:04:14,380 Compared to drug treatment, alcohol is way down the list. 1237 01:04:20,260 --> 01:04:22,260 Well this is a political issue really. 1238 01:04:22,260 --> 01:04:25,220 I think the Government has focused on opiate users 1239 01:04:25,220 --> 01:04:30,460 heroin, cocaine and that sort of class of drugs. 1240 01:04:30,460 --> 01:04:32,780 I think there's a real stigma still 1241 01:04:32,780 --> 01:04:36,180 in accessing treatment for alcohol. 1242 01:04:36,180 --> 01:04:39,140 It's still perceived to be something to be ashamed of, 1243 01:04:39,140 --> 01:04:41,300 something that people are afraid to admit to themselves 1244 01:04:41,300 --> 01:04:42,220 and to others that they've got a problem. 1245 01:04:44,060 --> 01:04:47,580 - About 1.6 million people in England are alcohol dependent, 1246 01:04:47,580 --> 01:04:49,820 yet only about 6 percent of people 1247 01:04:49,820 --> 01:04:51,580 with an alcohol dependency problem 1248 01:04:51,580 --> 01:04:53,780 are receiving treatment. 1249 01:04:53,780 --> 01:04:56,060 That's not because the other ninety four percent of people 1250 01:04:56,060 --> 01:04:58,140 don't want to receive it 1251 01:04:58,140 --> 01:04:59,060 there is very little alcohol treatment available. 1252 01:05:12,700 --> 01:05:14,220 In this town, and its only a small market town, 1253 01:05:15,940 --> 01:05:20,580 there is us who deal with drug and alcohol problems. 1254 01:05:20,580 --> 01:05:24,900 Next door there's a sort of drop in, fuck about, play pool, 1255 01:05:24,900 --> 01:05:27,740 don't change your drug use, come in and do something, 1256 01:05:27,740 --> 01:05:29,220 load of bollocks. 1257 01:05:29,220 --> 01:05:31,260 But there is that facility 1258 01:05:31,260 --> 01:05:32,980 which is being funded by the Government... for drug problems. 1259 01:05:34,500 --> 01:05:38,540 There's a Methadone distribution centre, 1260 01:05:38,540 --> 01:05:40,500 where you can get your Methadone script 1261 01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:43,980 and various other bits and pieces, 1262 01:05:43,980 --> 01:05:49,900 which is staffed by about twelve people, 1263 01:05:49,900 --> 01:05:52,340 which is managed at county level by the local drug action team. 1264 01:05:54,980 --> 01:05:59,540 For alcohol, there is one person that works up the road there. 1265 01:06:00,900 --> 01:06:01,420 Actually, I think there's two now. 1266 01:06:03,260 --> 01:06:04,940 And they deal with the entire alcohol problem of the county. 1267 01:06:05,980 --> 01:06:06,540 It's ridiculous. 1268 01:06:09,620 --> 01:06:12,860 But for drugs, which isn't even half of the problem! 1269 01:06:12,860 --> 01:06:15,180 Thousands of people die of alcoholism, thousands. 1270 01:06:16,380 --> 01:06:19,180 Hundreds die from drug dependency 1271 01:06:19,180 --> 01:06:20,460 but we've invested everything in drugs. 1272 01:06:21,300 --> 01:06:23,460 APPLAUSE 1273 01:06:25,180 --> 01:06:27,340 It's really nice to see you all here, 1274 01:06:27,340 --> 01:06:29,700 for what is a celebration of recovery and 1275 01:06:31,380 --> 01:06:34,780 I suppose the one reassuring thing is that we are still here. 1276 01:06:36,660 --> 01:06:39,780 A lot of rehabs have closed 1277 01:06:39,780 --> 01:06:42,020 one called ARA, 1278 01:06:42,020 --> 01:06:44,980 which had been around for twenty years closed last week, 1279 01:06:44,980 --> 01:06:51,100 and small independent rehabs are closing very rapidly indeed. 1280 01:06:51,100 --> 01:06:54,340 So it's getting harder and harder, 1281 01:06:54,340 --> 01:06:56,380 and those people who have been funded through treatment 1282 01:06:56,380 --> 01:06:59,220 you are getting luckier and luckier, 1283 01:06:59,220 --> 01:07:01,220 because it's becoming something that's 1284 01:07:01,220 --> 01:07:02,340 gonna be very difficult to do in the future. 1285 01:07:03,540 --> 01:07:07,300 Focus12 taught me to ask for help, 1286 01:07:07,300 --> 01:07:09,540 and to not be ashamed. 1287 01:07:09,540 --> 01:07:11,100 It doesn't make you a bad person, 1288 01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:13,060 it makes you a stronger person 1289 01:07:13,060 --> 01:07:14,780 by having the strength to ask 'I need help' 1290 01:07:14,780 --> 01:07:15,540 and to be able to do that. 1291 01:07:17,020 --> 01:07:19,300 You know the last rehab I went to 1292 01:07:19,300 --> 01:07:21,500 they were tucking me up in bed, reading me a bed time story 1293 01:07:21,500 --> 01:07:23,740 it didn't make sense. 1294 01:07:23,740 --> 01:07:26,060 But at Focus12, there's something unique 1295 01:07:26,060 --> 01:07:28,100 about what Chip has formed in that treatment centre 1296 01:07:28,100 --> 01:07:30,260 that just seems to work. 1297 01:07:30,260 --> 01:07:32,860 They just made me believe that I can do it. 1298 01:07:32,860 --> 01:07:35,260 90 percent of the counsellors have been through it themselves. 1299 01:07:37,380 --> 01:07:43,620 There's just something about Chip, he is very persuasive. 1300 01:07:43,620 --> 01:07:48,300 He will look you in the eyes and say 'I did it. You can do this'. 1301 01:07:50,460 --> 01:07:51,580 What you have all independently achieved is an incredible thing 1302 01:07:52,980 --> 01:07:54,100 and the more people you tell the better. 1303 01:07:55,540 --> 01:07:59,100 Having had a previous experience of alcoholism 1304 01:07:59,100 --> 01:08:01,460 is incredibly important in this work. 1305 01:08:01,460 --> 01:08:02,940 This is a condition that responds 1306 01:08:02,940 --> 01:08:04,940 very well to being treated 1307 01:08:04,940 --> 01:08:06,740 by somebody who has had the condition. 1308 01:08:11,060 --> 01:08:14,220 I wanted to use every single day, 1309 01:08:14,220 --> 01:08:16,860 and I don't think there was a day in eighteen years 1310 01:08:16,860 --> 01:08:19,900 when I willingly went without a drug. 1311 01:08:19,900 --> 01:08:21,660 There were days when I did 1312 01:08:21,660 --> 01:08:23,940 because I was locked up in a prison cell 1313 01:08:23,940 --> 01:08:25,660 or police custody or something like that, 1314 01:08:25,660 --> 01:08:26,900 but never willingly. 1315 01:08:28,300 --> 01:08:30,140 Anecdotally, Chip was an armed robber, 1316 01:08:30,140 --> 01:08:32,260 in and out of nick all the time 1317 01:08:32,260 --> 01:08:32,900 I hope you don't mind me telling them this... 1318 01:08:35,180 --> 01:08:37,300 What's interesting when you see Chip and Noreen, 1319 01:08:37,300 --> 01:08:40,420 people who seem immensely capable, 1320 01:08:40,420 --> 01:08:45,260 and who have had an incredible impact on countless drug addicts 1321 01:08:45,260 --> 01:08:48,420 and alcoholics, is when we listen to their stories, 1322 01:08:48,420 --> 01:08:52,180 both of them were fucking hardcore nutters weren't they? 1323 01:08:52,180 --> 01:08:54,500 Chip sometimes, when he reminds me of his using, 1324 01:08:54,500 --> 01:08:56,460 I always think 1325 01:08:56,460 --> 01:08:58,900 'remember to include that when you take his advice 1326 01:08:58,900 --> 01:09:00,020 that you're listening to a mad man'. 1327 01:09:02,020 --> 01:09:05,860 I have been put in front of psychiatrists, psychologists, 1328 01:09:05,860 --> 01:09:10,340 probation officers, various drug workers, alcohol workers 1329 01:09:10,340 --> 01:09:13,540 all these people, and there was always a part of me that felt 1330 01:09:13,540 --> 01:09:15,340 you don't really understand what it's like 1331 01:09:15,340 --> 01:09:17,500 to live on the street. 1332 01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:18,940 You don't understand what it's like finding somewhere 1333 01:09:18,940 --> 01:09:21,060 to sleep every night. 1334 01:09:21,060 --> 01:09:23,300 You don't understand that you've got to steal sometimes, 1335 01:09:23,300 --> 01:09:26,460 you don't get that at all. 1336 01:09:26,460 --> 01:09:30,340 So being able to talk to somebody who you knew 1337 01:09:30,340 --> 01:09:35,540 had that experience, made being open and honest about it easier, 1338 01:09:35,540 --> 01:09:37,940 because you knew you weren't going to get judgement back, 1339 01:09:37,940 --> 01:09:40,540 you were going to get somebody having empathy for you. 1340 01:09:40,540 --> 01:09:44,340 - You don't feel as weird or 1341 01:09:44,340 --> 01:09:46,620 as ostracised by society when you're 1342 01:09:46,620 --> 01:09:49,820 surrounded by like minded junkies. 1343 01:09:49,820 --> 01:09:54,780 Before I was at Focus, my life was absolute hell. 1344 01:09:54,780 --> 01:09:58,460 I had an awful childhood growing up. 1345 01:09:58,460 --> 01:10:00,780 I grew up in a family full of addicts, 1346 01:10:02,340 --> 01:10:04,740 it just seemed like the normal thing to me. 1347 01:10:07,180 --> 01:10:11,220 Focus has completely changed my life and I'm ever so grateful. 1348 01:10:11,220 --> 01:10:12,820 I'm grateful to Chip. Thank You. 1349 01:10:12,820 --> 01:10:15,140 APPLAUSE 1350 01:10:15,140 --> 01:10:19,980 There is still a perception in this country that an alcoholic 1351 01:10:19,980 --> 01:10:24,100 stereotypically sits on a park bench in a dirty mac, 1352 01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:27,460 and just sort of mumbles hysterically into their beard. 1353 01:10:31,140 --> 01:10:32,700 Crazy drunk drivers. 1354 01:10:35,020 --> 01:10:38,500 I hate the term 'functioning alcoholic', but I was one. 1355 01:10:40,220 --> 01:10:45,620 I had a good job, lovely house, lovely kids, lovely wife... 1356 01:10:47,700 --> 01:10:48,660 but I was an alcoholic, 1357 01:10:50,300 --> 01:10:52,180 I couldn't do without a drink everyday. 1358 01:10:54,660 --> 01:10:58,300 Ironically, I gleamed some form of success in my career, 1359 01:11:00,260 --> 01:11:04,260 but by that stage I was already a full blown alcoholic. 1360 01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:08,140 I lost everything my marbles, everything, 1361 01:11:08,140 --> 01:11:10,940 I ended up in a hostel, had this tooth knocked out by someone 1362 01:11:10,940 --> 01:11:11,860 because I asked them to turn their music down. 1363 01:11:13,540 --> 01:11:14,780 I was picking up butts off the street. 1364 01:11:16,500 --> 01:11:19,940 I was picking some butts off the street around Oval station. 1365 01:11:21,780 --> 01:11:24,740 I had this trick of bending down, tying up my shoelaces 1366 01:11:24,740 --> 01:11:26,900 and picking a butt up and pocketing it, 1367 01:11:26,900 --> 01:11:30,060 and doing the same trick because everyone was passing by. 1368 01:11:30,060 --> 01:11:34,060 I had just picked a butt up and put it in my pocket... 1369 01:11:34,060 --> 01:11:35,060 and I was still quite presentable in a way, 1370 01:11:36,820 --> 01:11:39,980 and somebody said 'Oh excuse me'. I went 'oh hello' 1371 01:11:39,980 --> 01:11:42,900 and thought 'oh fuck they've seen me pick up a butt', 1372 01:11:42,900 --> 01:11:44,940 and he went ' are you the guy in The Office, and I went 1373 01:11:44,940 --> 01:11:46,700 'oh yeah'. 1374 01:11:46,700 --> 01:11:48,180 Well if he doesn't mind us laughing at him 1375 01:11:48,180 --> 01:11:48,740 what harm's been done? 1376 01:11:51,140 --> 01:11:54,020 I went through this whole game of shaking his hand 1377 01:11:54,020 --> 01:11:56,460 and I just thought 'oh my God, if he knew the truth'. 1378 01:12:00,940 --> 01:12:03,620 Do I look like an alcoholic? God no. 1379 01:12:03,620 --> 01:12:05,500 Do I look like I'm recovering from alcoholism? 1380 01:12:05,500 --> 01:12:07,420 Probably not actually, 1381 01:12:07,420 --> 01:12:10,860 but what are we waiting for? Who the hell does? 1382 01:12:10,860 --> 01:12:12,500 If I don't look like an alcoholic who the hell does? 1383 01:12:12,500 --> 01:12:14,500 Who are we waiting for? 1384 01:12:14,500 --> 01:12:16,300 Who is it that's got the big sandwich board saying 1385 01:12:16,300 --> 01:12:17,500 'party time'? 1386 01:12:17,500 --> 01:12:18,060 Nobody looks like that. 1387 01:12:19,660 --> 01:12:22,020 It's delusions like that that we have to cut through. 1388 01:12:22,020 --> 01:12:24,020 - We use terms like 'regular drinker' 1389 01:12:24,020 --> 01:12:26,580 when we mean 'alcoholic', we always try 1390 01:12:26,580 --> 01:12:30,500 to minimize the possible 1391 01:12:30,500 --> 01:12:32,940 understanding of the harms of alcohol, 1392 01:12:32,940 --> 01:12:34,740 while we maximize our perception of harms of other drugs. 1393 01:12:37,460 --> 01:12:42,300 When I talk about the person I was when I was an alcoholic, 1394 01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:44,980 it feels like I am talking about a different person. 1395 01:12:44,980 --> 01:12:47,580 The life I have now compared to the life I had while drinking 1396 01:12:47,580 --> 01:12:49,060 is incomparable. 1397 01:12:49,060 --> 01:12:50,980 I don't look the same, 1398 01:12:50,980 --> 01:12:53,740 I don't recognise myself when I see photos. 1399 01:12:53,740 --> 01:12:57,020 Everything about my life has changed so much. 1400 01:12:57,020 --> 01:13:00,180 I'm very happy now, life is bigger. 1401 01:13:00,180 --> 01:13:02,780 I see things now, I experience things. 1402 01:13:02,780 --> 01:13:04,140 I have interests which aren't inside of a pub. 1403 01:13:06,380 --> 01:13:08,420 The personal transformation that I've undergone 1404 01:13:08,420 --> 01:13:11,420 from being a hopeless, hapless, ridiculous drug addict 1405 01:13:11,420 --> 01:13:13,860 with no future, no chance, and no hope, to being 1406 01:13:13,860 --> 01:13:17,060 an equal, valid member of this community 1407 01:13:17,060 --> 01:13:19,620 is perhaps something we can spread. 1408 01:13:19,620 --> 01:13:21,860 You all know what it was like when you were out there using. 1409 01:13:21,860 --> 01:13:24,300 Even those of you who aren't junkies or drunks, 1410 01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:26,660 you know people that are, and it seems desperate, 1411 01:13:26,660 --> 01:13:28,380 it seems hopeless. 1412 01:13:28,380 --> 01:13:30,220 It's horrible when someone in your life 1413 01:13:30,220 --> 01:13:31,860 is suffering from this disease. 1414 01:13:31,860 --> 01:13:33,940 There doesn't seem like a way out. 1415 01:13:33,940 --> 01:13:36,580 Well there is, through the practice of certain principles, 1416 01:13:36,580 --> 01:13:38,740 and the support of other addicts, 1417 01:13:38,740 --> 01:13:39,700 there's a way out of it. 1418 01:13:42,180 --> 01:13:43,980 I ended up coming to Alcoholics Anonymous. 1419 01:13:45,700 --> 01:13:49,780 I saw guys in their teens, I saw girls in their teens, 1420 01:13:49,780 --> 01:13:51,660 in their twenties, their thirties, 1421 01:13:51,660 --> 01:13:55,340 men and women from all walks of life, 1422 01:13:55,340 --> 01:13:56,860 and these guys seem to have a solution 1423 01:13:58,500 --> 01:14:00,220 and I was attracted to what I saw. 1424 01:14:03,700 --> 01:14:07,580 I don't know why I'm an alcoholic but it's not relevant. 1425 01:14:07,580 --> 01:14:09,660 The thing that is relevant is that I found a solution. 1426 01:14:16,860 --> 01:14:20,780 I know that my story isn't unusual at all, 1427 01:14:20,780 --> 01:14:25,460 because I set a website up and I 1428 01:14:25,460 --> 01:14:29,100 talked about the really grim, horrible things that happened 1429 01:14:29,100 --> 01:14:31,980 to me in an average day, and it went crazy. 1430 01:14:31,980 --> 01:14:33,180 It went insane. 1431 01:14:33,180 --> 01:14:35,180 I had emails from 1432 01:14:35,180 --> 01:14:36,820 places I've never been, people I've never seen 1433 01:14:36,820 --> 01:14:38,340 saying 'that's how I feel'. 1434 01:14:40,820 --> 01:14:42,820 I'm shocked by the 21 year old girls 1435 01:14:42,820 --> 01:14:44,980 who email me, and boys saying 1436 01:14:44,980 --> 01:14:46,460 'I've been an alcoholic 5 years, my parents don't know, 1437 01:14:46,460 --> 01:14:48,380 I live at home'. 1438 01:14:48,380 --> 01:14:50,340 I'm shocked by the 22 year old girl that says to me 1439 01:14:50,340 --> 01:14:52,460 'this is my third go in rehab. 1440 01:14:52,460 --> 01:14:55,580 I'm gonna die but my parents aren't taking it seriously'. 1441 01:14:55,580 --> 01:14:56,900 I always think 'oh nothings going to shock me today', 1442 01:14:57,940 --> 01:14:59,020 and then I hear another story. 1443 01:15:00,780 --> 01:15:03,580 We're facilitating alcoholism, 1444 01:15:03,580 --> 01:15:05,860 we're killing our children, we're killing our young people, 1445 01:15:05,860 --> 01:15:07,940 and it's fine 1446 01:15:07,940 --> 01:15:09,860 because for one person to admit they have a problem, 1447 01:15:09,860 --> 01:15:11,580 is for everyone to admit that 1448 01:15:11,580 --> 01:15:13,580 we all have a bit of a problem. 1449 01:15:13,580 --> 01:15:15,340 It's crazy we're in such denial 1450 01:15:15,340 --> 01:15:15,980 when it's all around us. 1451 01:15:19,340 --> 01:15:20,980 The UK is not alone when it comes to problems with alcohol. 1452 01:15:22,740 --> 01:15:25,340 But there is something about British culture 1453 01:15:25,340 --> 01:15:27,220 that seems to foster illogical attitudes to drinking. 1454 01:15:28,500 --> 01:15:30,500 - I think drinking in this country 1455 01:15:30,500 --> 01:15:32,420 is seen as something that's very humorous. 1456 01:15:32,420 --> 01:15:33,900 The first time I got drunk, 1457 01:15:33,900 --> 01:15:36,500 I was nine at a new years party. 1458 01:15:36,500 --> 01:15:37,540 My relatives just thought it was funny. 1459 01:15:38,220 --> 01:15:39,100 LAUGHING 1460 01:15:40,740 --> 01:15:42,540 It's become a cultural thing now you know 1461 01:15:42,540 --> 01:15:43,700 'lets go out and get pissed'. 1462 01:15:44,860 --> 01:15:46,220 INCOHERENT CHANTING 1463 01:15:47,900 --> 01:15:49,860 There's a lot of pent up aggression in people, 1464 01:15:49,860 --> 01:15:50,700 and it's a way of releasing it isn't it? 1465 01:15:52,540 --> 01:15:55,540 Oh she fell over, she's been drinking way more than us. 1466 01:15:55,540 --> 01:15:57,460 - The damage alcohol does to British society is immense. 1467 01:15:58,980 --> 01:16:01,540 It's the biggest public health disaster we face. 1468 01:16:01,540 --> 01:16:03,100 SIRENS 1469 01:16:04,900 --> 01:16:06,940 I think there are a particular group of factors 1470 01:16:06,940 --> 01:16:09,060 about the UK that aren't instantly linked, but 1471 01:16:09,060 --> 01:16:10,900 when put together you kind of 1472 01:16:10,900 --> 01:16:11,220 understand why we are where we are. 1473 01:16:13,700 --> 01:16:17,780 A large part of it is actually to the British stiff upper lip 1474 01:16:17,780 --> 01:16:18,420 not talking about our feelings. 1475 01:16:19,820 --> 01:16:22,980 We're not taught to open up and just cry... 1476 01:16:22,980 --> 01:16:24,740 or hug your dad! 1477 01:16:24,740 --> 01:16:28,580 Or show your emotions. It's all kept in, 1478 01:16:28,580 --> 01:16:29,380 and the only way to release it is through drink and drugs. 1479 01:16:30,060 --> 01:16:31,180 SHOUTING 1480 01:16:32,740 --> 01:16:34,900 To me I think a lot of it has a lot to do 1481 01:16:34,900 --> 01:16:36,900 with that British attitude to life 1482 01:16:36,900 --> 01:16:39,260 to Britishness. And that strength and that steel. 1483 01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:44,420 - This is England, the mighty powerful Britannia. 1484 01:16:44,420 --> 01:16:45,860 We're so proud, Britannia rules the waves. 1485 01:16:47,780 --> 01:16:50,060 If there's a pre existing emotional or spiritual condition 1486 01:16:50,060 --> 01:16:52,300 like if you're a bit unhappy, 1487 01:16:52,300 --> 01:16:54,940 alcohol can easily be seen as something to fill that gap. 1488 01:16:54,940 --> 01:16:57,780 - I think that we're bored. I think we're depressed. 1489 01:16:57,780 --> 01:16:59,660 I think we're scared, and I think 1490 01:16:59,660 --> 01:17:00,460 as a nation we're medicating. 1491 01:17:02,100 --> 01:17:03,700 If you looked at the British media 1492 01:17:03,700 --> 01:17:05,340 you would get the impression 1493 01:17:05,340 --> 01:17:07,300 that drunkenness is completely unacceptable. 1494 01:17:07,300 --> 01:17:09,420 We're obsessed with how awful it is, 1495 01:17:09,420 --> 01:17:11,980 and youth anti social behaviour is a major focus. 1496 01:17:11,980 --> 01:17:13,500 But I would say that by focusing on it, we have glamorised it. 1497 01:17:15,340 --> 01:17:18,140 Current policy in Britain seems to be largely the strapline 1498 01:17:18,140 --> 01:17:19,820 'drink responsibly'. 1499 01:17:19,820 --> 01:17:21,380 Yet everyone knows that alcohol takes away 1500 01:17:21,380 --> 01:17:23,500 that sense of responsibility. 1501 01:17:23,500 --> 01:17:25,460 - It's embarrassing if anyone really believes that's a policy. 1502 01:17:26,980 --> 01:17:28,780 Until we take on the drink industry 1503 01:17:28,780 --> 01:17:31,020 and their vested interests 1504 01:17:31,020 --> 01:17:34,260 we will not see the problem resolved the way we need it. 1505 01:17:34,260 --> 01:17:35,420 - Who in this room would like to see prohibition? 1506 01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:39,580 Were we suddenly to remove alcohol, 1507 01:17:39,580 --> 01:17:41,540 there would be an awful lot of people 1508 01:17:41,540 --> 01:17:42,540 who would be really struggling. 1509 01:17:44,500 --> 01:17:47,660 Prohibition in the United States created more 1510 01:17:47,660 --> 01:17:51,740 death and murder in American history 1511 01:17:51,740 --> 01:17:53,980 than at any time other than the civil war, 1512 01:17:53,980 --> 01:17:55,620 so prohibition is certainly not the answer. 1513 01:17:56,980 --> 01:17:59,140 A lot of people are just stupid. 1514 01:17:59,140 --> 01:18:00,660 Put some antibiotics in the water, get rid of it all. 1515 01:18:01,820 --> 01:18:03,700 It's not going to go away. 1516 01:18:03,700 --> 01:18:06,860 We have a love affair with alcohol. 1517 01:18:06,860 --> 01:18:09,860 Alcohol is a lubricant. It's like the blood in our veins. 1518 01:18:09,860 --> 01:18:12,460 Drinking is absolutely embedded in culture. 1519 01:18:12,460 --> 01:18:14,980 It's kind of everywhere. It's part of our religion. 1520 01:18:14,980 --> 01:18:18,220 It sounds silly but I think weather is a big part of it. 1521 01:18:18,220 --> 01:18:21,140 There is often bad weather and people socialise inside. 1522 01:18:21,140 --> 01:18:23,580 There was a time where the pub was probably 1523 01:18:23,580 --> 01:18:25,620 the only place on the street that was warm... 1524 01:18:25,620 --> 01:18:27,660 ...and that had amenities 1525 01:18:27,660 --> 01:18:29,020 that you would associate with socialisation. 1526 01:18:31,140 --> 01:18:33,020 Greater state intervention, higher taxes, 1527 01:18:33,020 --> 01:18:35,580 more commercial restrictions 1528 01:18:35,580 --> 01:18:37,660 do not address the societal attitudes that we must alter. 1529 01:18:39,660 --> 01:18:42,180 We aren't teaching our kids how to be responsible around alcohol 1530 01:18:42,180 --> 01:18:43,460 because we aren't responsible around alcohol. 1531 01:18:43,460 --> 01:18:45,220 Who's going to teach us? 1532 01:18:45,220 --> 01:18:47,940 - I think the way forward is one of education, 1533 01:18:47,940 --> 01:18:51,860 to help people understand the damage caused by alcohol. 1534 01:18:51,860 --> 01:18:54,100 I think there's a lot more that we could be doing 1535 01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:56,380 in honestly educating people about drugs. 1536 01:18:56,380 --> 01:18:58,020 It's no good just going into schools 1537 01:18:58,020 --> 01:19:00,100 saying 'drugs are bad, stop it'. 1538 01:19:00,100 --> 01:19:01,900 People seem to need to take drugs and drink 1539 01:19:01,900 --> 01:19:03,980 one way or another. 1540 01:19:03,980 --> 01:19:07,540 We need to provide these people the support that they need. 1541 01:19:07,540 --> 01:19:09,940 It's one of the easiest areas to cut funding, 1542 01:19:09,940 --> 01:19:12,660 and no politician is going to stand up 1543 01:19:12,660 --> 01:19:14,740 and propose for greater care of the addicts and alcoholics 1544 01:19:14,740 --> 01:19:16,540 in this country. 1545 01:19:16,540 --> 01:19:18,300 We can't be judgemental, we can't be pejorative, 1546 01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:20,380 we shouldn't be punitive. 1547 01:19:20,380 --> 01:19:22,700 Until we have a compassionate, empathetic approach 1548 01:19:22,700 --> 01:19:24,940 we won't solve the problem. 1549 01:19:24,940 --> 01:19:26,940 - That's enough, it is enough now for us to say stop. 1550 01:19:31,020 --> 01:19:32,540 If anybody could come up with a solution, 1551 01:19:34,380 --> 01:19:35,460 you'd be a millionaire. 1552 01:19:39,100 --> 01:19:40,860 How many more people need to end up 1553 01:19:40,860 --> 01:19:41,620 like my uncle? 1554 01:19:44,740 --> 01:19:46,180 How many more people need to die? 1555 01:19:48,820 --> 01:19:50,580 Britain has an alcohol problem, 1556 01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:54,020 but what's it going to take for us to admit it? 1557 01:19:55,380 --> 01:19:55,980 To put down that bottle, 1558 01:19:57,500 --> 01:19:57,940 to wake up, 1559 01:19:59,100 --> 01:20:00,540 without a hangover. 116276

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