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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,320 Are we saying that we think this was Hume? 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:03,960 Worst case, maybe three months. 3 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:05,960 Which is not enough. Gatwick? 4 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,960 They said you were a person of interest in a murder. 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,960 'If you could present yourself at Bishop Street.' 6 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:12,960 Help! Help! Armed police! 7 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,960 I'm not Joseph Bell. I'm Joe's half-brother. 8 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,480 I need a break. 9 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,960 I'm sorry, my love. Steve, are you in there? 10 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,960 The first company that Hume worked for was the same company 11 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,800 that Ebele Falade walked into with an air pistol. 12 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:24,960 She was shouting, 13 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,960 "I wanna speak to my dad, Tony bloody Hume." 14 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,320 Did the caller say who the body was? 15 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,800 A young man named Joseph Bell. 16 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,960 'All We Do' by Oh Wonder 17 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,960 # All we do is hide away 18 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,960 # All we do is All we do is hide away 19 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,320 # All we do is lie in wait 20 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,960 # All we do is All we do is lie in wait 21 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,480 # I've been upside down 22 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,800 # I don't want to be The right way round 23 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,960 # Can't find paradise On the ground. # 24 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:24,960 And it is male? 25 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:28,960 Looking at the brow ridge, the mastoid process, I'd say yes. 26 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:30,960 And young. Anything else jumping out? 27 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:33,960 Aside from the two bullet-shaped holes in his skull? Apart from them. 28 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:36,160 Not yet. This level of decomposition, 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,960 might that suggest how long he's been here for, roughly? 30 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:41,160 If you mean could it have been around the same time 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,960 as Precious Falade was killed, then, yes, it's not inconsistent. 32 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:46,960 OK. Thanks, Leanne. 33 00:01:46,960 --> 00:01:49,960 DNA sample as soon as soon as, please. 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,960 So, we need to speak to the letting agency, 35 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,960 get a list of everyone who's lived here over the last ten years. Boss. 36 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,800 And Anthony Hume... 37 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,960 what have we not yet done to place him 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:01:59,960 at the scene of Precious's murder? 39 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:02,960 If he was there. He was there. 40 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:04,960 All suggestions gratefully received. 41 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,960 I'll message the team. 42 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,960 Anthony Hume? 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:18,960 Yes? 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,480 So... 45 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,960 Wojski takes 2K out of his savings 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,960 on the 27th, in cash, 47 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,960 puts them right back in on the 28th. 48 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,960 So, what did he do to get his laptop back, 49 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:33,960 without handing any money over? 50 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,960 Exactly. 51 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,960 We have nothing to say to you. 52 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,960 So whichever tawdry rag your working for, 53 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,960 you're wasting your time. 54 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,960 I'm his daughter. 55 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,960 What kind of messed up power game is this, Steve? 56 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,960 It's no power game. I just want to talk. 57 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,800 So we do it on the phone. You don't just turn up here. 58 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,800 You left this house, remember? I'm sorry. 59 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,960 And FYI, any phone call's going to be relatively brief, 60 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,000 on account of the fact you screwed my sister. 61 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,960 Except I didn't. What? 62 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:49,640 I did kiss her, once. 63 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,800 Which itself is unforgivable, I know, but... 64 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,960 ..we never slept together. It was more of an emotional thing. 65 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,960 So, my sister is telling me a lie that makes her look worse? 66 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,960 Your sister has a lot of issues. I think we know this. 67 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,960 Look, Jess, I messed up, massively, and I'm incredibly sorry for that. 68 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:17,960 But I felt that you'd abandoned me, and I wanted you to hurt like I did, 69 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:19,960 which is why I said I wanted to leave. 70 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,960 But now I've calmed down a bit, and... 71 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:25,800 ..I know I don't. 72 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,320 I don't think I believe a word you just said. 73 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,960 Jess, please, I swear it's the truth. 74 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,960 Jess! Can we at least talk tonight? 75 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:49,960 I found out on my 18th birthday and contacted him when I was 23. 76 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,960 I'm now 59. 77 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,960 And what sort of a relationship have you had with him in that time? 78 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,960 In the multiple decades he's lied to you, you mean? 79 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,000 Yes. Almost entirely financial. 80 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,960 He's given you money? Reparation. 81 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,800 Yes. So can I ask what it is you came here for? 82 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,960 Well, obviously to see him. 83 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,960 There were things that I wanted to say 84 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,960 before it became impossible. 85 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,960 But I can see that I am already too late, 86 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,800 so maybe you can pass on a message. 87 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,960 Can you tell him, please... 88 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,960 ..that I loathe him? 89 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:35,960 That I have always loathed him. 90 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:40,960 And I always will. Right. 91 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:45,960 But for all your loathing, you still obviously took his money. 92 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:47,960 And there we are. 93 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,960 You screwed multiple generations of my family over, 94 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,960 and then think it's OK because I got some money? 95 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,480 I didn't screw any one over. 96 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,960 Maybe not... as directly as him. 97 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,960 But your privilege, your comfort, your happiness, 98 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,960 this house, in fact, 99 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,160 were all built on the bones of people like me. 100 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,960 Weren't they? I'd like you to leave now, please. 101 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,000 You knew what he did, didn't you? 102 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,960 You knew the policies that he espoused for decades. 103 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,960 You knew the millions of lives that it ruined. 104 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,160 Mine included. 105 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,960 And you did nothing. 106 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:33,960 You just looked the other way. 107 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,960 So I didn't really come to speak to you. 108 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,160 But now I'm here... 109 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,960 fuck you, too. 110 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,960 I loathe the pair of you. 111 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,960 So, what I really need is a list of all of the ground-floor tenants 112 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,320 from the past ten years. 113 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,960 Now, I realise that might take a while, 114 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,960 so can you start by telling me 115 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,960 who the tenant was in July 2016, please? 116 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,960 And that was from when to when? 117 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,960 OK. A list of other tenants would be very useful. 118 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:33,960 You've been very helpful. 119 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,960 Thank you very much. Yes! Thank you, God. 120 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:45,960 So, the tenant of the garden flat from May 2015 to August 2016 121 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:46,960 was Ebele Falade. 122 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,960 'The body, discovered buried in the garden 123 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:53,960 'of a flat in Greenford, 124 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,480 'is believed to be connected to the recent discovery of remains 125 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,000 'found in a house in Hammersmith.' 126 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,960 'Police investigators on the scene...' 127 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,960 Local authorities were dealing with huge cuts, 128 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,960 and we were all basically doing the jobs of two people. 129 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,960 So you were perma exhausted. 130 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,640 Multiple 12-hour days, 131 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,800 and from dealing, day in, day out, with people who had been... 132 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:21,960 abandoned. 133 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:27,480 People who were angry and in constant crisis. 134 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,960 People who blamed you. 135 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,800 And over a sustained period, that really began to take its toll. 136 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,960 I was living on my own at this point, 137 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,320 and I'd started to feel very isolated, very low. 138 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,960 And I-I just started to fixate on some... 139 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,800 ..on some really bad thoughts. 140 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,960 About women and... 141 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,960 taking certain sorts of photos... 142 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:57,960 of them... 143 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,960 ..in public. 144 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:07,960 And then in late 2015, I was attacked on the street. 145 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,960 And then in February 2016, outside my synagogue. 146 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,960 And it was about a week after the second attack 147 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,960 that I took my first photo. 148 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,960 On the tube. You think the two are connected? 149 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,960 No. 150 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,480 Well, maybe. I don't know. 151 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,000 I'm certainly not trying to offer it up as an excuse. 152 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,960 I'm just saying, you grow up being made to feel different. 153 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,960 When we first moved to UK, all through school 154 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:44,160 then actually being physically attacked for being different. 155 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,960 And it can affect you. 156 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:51,960 Make you do bad shit. 157 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:53,960 And these photos, they... 158 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,320 ..made you feel, what, better or...? 159 00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:59,960 In the moment, maybe, but... 160 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,960 ..in the long term, they made me feel much worse. 161 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,480 But you carried on taking them, Karol. 162 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,480 Eventually even taking them at work. 163 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,960 Yeah. Why? 164 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,960 Why do any of us do things we know are wrong? 165 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,960 Because that momentary relief is better than nothing. 166 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:45,960 I'd like, if I may, to take you back to the 26th of June 2016. 167 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,480 Er, which was the day that you visited Precious Falade 168 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:51,960 in a house in Hammersmith. 169 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,960 And it was also the last time you ever saw her, 170 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,960 according to your statement when we spoke in Paris. Yeah. 171 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,960 And was this also the day that you accidentally left your laptop there? 172 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,960 You should assume we know everything, Karol. 173 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,160 Yeah. And on that laptop, 174 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,960 she found a number of your upskirting photos 175 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:14,960 and tried to blackmail you for them. 176 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,960 Yeah. For £2,000? 177 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,960 Yeah. 178 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,320 Showing the suspect exhibit KW01, 179 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,960 a bank statement belonging to him. 180 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,960 And if you have a look at the highlighted entries there, Karol, 181 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:33,960 you can see that you did in fact 182 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,000 withdraw 2,000, in cash, on the 27th. 183 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,960 But then, just below that entry, 184 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,640 you deposited the exact same amount again in cash 185 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,960 into the same account on the 28th. 186 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,960 Which suggests to me that you never paid her the money. 187 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:53,960 I didn't. 188 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,960 So, could you tell us, then, please, 189 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,800 how you did manage to get your laptop back? 190 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,640 Can I, erm... drop these off for a patient, please? 191 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,960 What ward? Erm... 192 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,960 I dunno, but her name's Sophie Coulson. 193 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,000 She hit her head and... 194 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,960 Just tell her I'm sorry, yeah? 195 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,480 The first thing I noticed as I walked up the drive way 196 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,160 was that there was a car parked up outside. 197 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,960 OK, and this was the day after you say you last saw her? 198 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Yeah. So, you went in? 199 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,960 Yeah. And what happened then? 200 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,960 Well, I couldn't see anyone, so I called out her name. 201 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:53,960 No-one answered, so I walked straight ahead 202 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,960 into the sitting room, where we'd met the day before. 203 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,960 The floor was wet. 204 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,800 Like, all over. 205 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,960 Like someone had just mopped it. But no Precious. 206 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,960 And then in the corner, I saw my laptop on the table. 207 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,960 This was my property, you know? 208 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,960 So I walked over and took it and then left. 209 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,960 It was as I was heading for the front door that I saw him. 210 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,160 An old man at the end of the corridor, 211 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,960 with a mop and bucket. 212 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,960 Did you speak to him? 213 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,960 I called out, "Hello," and he turned, clearly surprised. 214 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,960 I introduced myself and told him that I'd come to see Precious. 215 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,960 He quickly said that she was out 216 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,480 and that he'd tell her that I'd come over. Anything else? 217 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,960 He'd asked if I'd been into the main room to look for her. 218 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,480 I said no and then left. 219 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:44,960 Could you describe him? 220 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,960 Late 60s, early 70s. 221 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,960 Well-spoken. OK. 222 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,960 Erm... So, the day after this, you resigned. 223 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:59,320 And then three weeks later, you left the country for good. 224 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,960 I assumed that she'd have downloaded the images elsewhere 225 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,960 and would continue to extort me. 226 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,960 I felt my life in England was over. 227 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:08,960 Listen... 228 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,960 ..you'd be hard-pressed to find a man who hated himself 229 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,160 more than me for what I did do. 230 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,960 All the women I abused by taking those photos. 231 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,000 I hope I've become a better person, 232 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,960 but I'm also fully aware that I may well be kidding myself 233 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,160 that I only did it because I was depressed or lonely. 234 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,960 I mean, maybe I actually did it because I'm a fucked-up human being. 235 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,800 I genuinely don't know the answer to that. 236 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,480 But one thing I am sure of... 237 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,960 I never saw Precious Falade after the 26th, 238 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:43,960 and I never hurt her. 239 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,160 DNA tests confirm that Jay Royce 240 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,960 is indeed the child of Precious Falade and Eric Royce, 241 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,960 and the body in the garden 242 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:01,960 is the child of Precious Falade and David Bell. 243 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:03,960 Joseph Bell. Mm-hm. 244 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,960 Ebele never mentioned she had a second grandchild. 245 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,480 Do we think it's possible she didn't know? 246 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,960 I think it's perfectly possible. The boy was invisible. 247 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,960 Off the radar of social services, the education system. 248 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,960 The real question is, what does he know? 249 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,960 Indeed. OK. 250 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,320 Murray, what have you got for us? 251 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,480 Forensics have confirmed that a bullet 252 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,960 found in the wall at Waterman Road 253 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,000 was fired from the same gun as the one that killed Precious. 254 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,960 Yeah. Not a surprise. Excellent. 255 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,960 Anything else? Yeah. 256 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,960 You wanted to try and place Hume at the murder scene on the 26th. 257 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,960 I mean, my name was on the contract, but he paid the actual rent, 258 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,960 so he absolutely knew where the flat was. 259 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:42,960 He probably had keys. Who did? 260 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,960 And the day after it all happened, 261 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:46,480 he paid for me to go away for a few days. 262 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,960 He sent me away to bloody Cornwall, Dave! Calm down, Bele. Who did? 263 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,960 My father! He put Joe there. 264 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,640 I thought you never knew your father. 265 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,960 Bele? 266 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:57,960 Bele?! 267 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,960 Did you kill your granddaughter, Mr Hume? 268 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,960 I don't have a granddaughter. I have three grandsons. 269 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,960 I'm talking about Precious Falade. 270 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,800 What evidence do you have that Precious Falade 271 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:08,960 is Mr Hume's granddaughter? 272 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,960 We can do DNA checks in time, but, for now, 273 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,960 I think his daughter Ebele Falade will confirm this. 274 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,960 And if he denies Ebele is his daughter, 275 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,960 well, then I'd simply ask why he's been paying her money 276 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,640 via standing order for the past 30-something years. 277 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:23,960 No, I didn't kill her. 278 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,800 Did you kill your great-grandson, Joseph Bell? 279 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:29,960 No, of course not. 280 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:31,960 Were you with either of them the night they died? 281 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,640 No. 282 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,960 Or at or near 64 Waterman Road, on the 26th and 27th of June, 2016? 283 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,960 No. And when was the last time you saw either of them? 284 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,960 I've never even met either of them. 285 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,960 I'm showing the suspect exhibit TH01 - 286 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,960 a copy of a credit card statement belonging to Mr Hume. 287 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,960 Mr Hume, could you read out the fifth credit down, please? 288 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,960 It's a payment to an Esso filling station for £60. 289 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,960 26th of June, 2016. 290 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:10,960 Thank you. And the address of the petrol station? 291 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,480 Inverdale Road. Postcode? 292 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,960 Which is, in case you don't know, Hammersmith, 293 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,800 and Inverdale Road is the road at the bottom of Waterman Road. 294 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,800 And, er, do you see a time for the payment there? 295 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:26,960 19:23. 296 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,960 So just before half seven, on the night that Precious died, 297 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,960 we now have you no more than 100 yards 298 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:35,960 from the house in which she died. 299 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,960 Is there anything you'd like to add? No comment. 300 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,960 So, erm, the day after this, the 27th of June, 301 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,960 we also have a witness who says they saw you 302 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,960 with a bucket and mop 303 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,960 near a room shown by forensics to have been spattered with blood, 304 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,960 which we have since identified as Precious Falade's. 305 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,960 What witness? 306 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:01,800 Her social worker. 307 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,960 You refused consent for a video ID earlier, 308 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,960 so we took a covert ID in custody, 309 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,960 and our witness identified you very easily, Mr Hume. 310 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:11,960 What's your response to that? 311 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,960 Lord Hume, I think the best course is to... 312 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,320 No comment. Really?! 313 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,800 Because maybe there's a perfectly innocent explanation as to why, 314 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,960 the day after a murder was committed in that room, 315 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,960 you were seen in that house, 316 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,960 clearly having just mopped blood off the floor. 317 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,960 And if there is, then this is your chance now 318 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,960 to tell us your side of the story. 319 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,960 Or Corfu. 320 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,960 Mike and Liz went there last year and absolutely loved it. 321 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,960 Said it was the prettiest village. Water's crystal clear. 322 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,960 They said they'd go back in a heartbeat. 323 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,320 Hello. You all right, love? 324 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,960 There's something I need to tell you about. 325 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,960 I'm gonna go and stay with Jordan for a bit. 326 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,960 He's found a new squat with hot water. 327 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,960 You need to sort your life out, J, man. 328 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,960 I only found out about Bele... 329 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,960 ..when she was in her early 20s. 330 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:33,960 The result of a very... 331 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:39,160 ..brief relationship I'd had with her mother in 1963. 332 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,640 The mother died when Bele was young. 333 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,960 And so as soon as I found out I had a daughter, 334 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:49,960 I obviously offered her financial support, 335 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,960 which she accepted. 336 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,960 There was little further contact, which was her choice. 337 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,960 I knew that she had had a daughter herself in the... 338 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,800 in the mid-'80s, 339 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,320 but I had no contact with her until late 2015 340 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,960 when she called me out of the blue... 341 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,960 ..and also wanted money. 342 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,960 Which, again, willingly, I-I gave her. 343 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,960 A few weeks before she... 344 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,000 ..she died... 345 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:26,000 I got a call from Bele telling me that Precious was homeless. 346 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,800 Waterman Road was empty at that time 347 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,320 and, of course, I wanted to help, so... 348 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:32,960 I met her... 349 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,960 ..to give her some keys and let her in, and... 350 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,960 The meeting was brief but cordial. 351 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,960 She'd obviously lost her way in life, 352 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,960 and I felt very sorry for her. 353 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,960 The night she died... 354 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,640 ..a man identifying himself as Precious's son 355 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,640 called me from Waterman Road. 356 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:03,960 He, er... 357 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,960 He was threatening all sorts of things, and again, wanted money. 358 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,960 I rang Bele, and... 359 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,960 ..she said she'd drive there immediately. 360 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:19,960 But, erm... 361 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,960 Well, I-I also decided to drive there myself. 362 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,960 I got there first. 363 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,960 To find that Joseph, Precious's son... 364 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,960 ..was in a very bad way. 365 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,800 He seemed to be coming down off something 366 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:45,960 and was clearly very disturbed, 367 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,960 threatening violence to me and his mother. 368 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:55,160 Unless I took him to a cash machine and got out thousands of pounds. 369 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:57,960 And then... 370 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,320 ..quite without warning, he... 371 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:04,960 ..he pulled out a gun. 372 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,480 Which he proceeded to point at me. 373 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,960 Precious was horrified, and... and before I could stop her, 374 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,960 she lunged for it, and it... 375 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,960 It went off. 376 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,960 Hitting him in the head. 377 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:28,960 He fell. 378 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,640 I went to help him, and, er... 379 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,960 ..as I was trying to get him into the recovery position... 380 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,960 ..there was another shot. 381 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,960 And I looked around, and Precious had turned the gun on to herself. 382 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,640 Straight into her chest. 383 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,960 She died pretty instantly. 384 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,960 Joseph's heart stopped within seconds. 385 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,960 I never even had a chance to call for help. 386 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,960 And into this... 387 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,960 nightmare walked Bele. 388 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,960 I explained to her what had happened. I'm... 389 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,640 I'm not sure she entirely believed me, 390 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,960 even though it was true. 391 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,960 Obviously, we were both in pieces. 392 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,960 And that was how I... 393 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,960 ..I ended up saying that I would... 394 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,960 ..dispose of Joseph's body. 395 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,960 And how I ended up leaving Bele with her daughter. 396 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,960 So, you buried Joseph Bell 397 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,000 in the garden of your daughter's flat in Greenford? 398 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,960 Yes. And why there specifically? 399 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,960 I had keys. 400 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,960 It was private. Not for deflection? 401 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,960 To incriminate her if anything ever went wrong? 402 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:09,960 No. 403 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,960 So, why did you anonymously call the front desk of this station 404 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,960 last night and tell us where his body was? 405 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,480 I panicked. 406 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,960 And did you know that Bele had hidden Precious in the fireplace? 407 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,960 No. 408 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,960 She told me she'd buried her in woods somewhere. 409 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,960 So this... 410 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,960 this is the truth now? 411 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:44,960 Yes. 412 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,960 Because you've lied to us repeatedly, Lord Hume. 413 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,960 Both times we've questioned you. 414 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,160 This is the truth. 415 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,160 I swear. 416 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,960 We need Ebele Falade. 417 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,960 Come on. Firstly, we need to clean our teeth. 418 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,960 We need to do our stories. Time is running out. 419 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,960 Wait. Five, four, three... 420 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,000 His behaviour has been disgraceful, which he realises. 421 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,960 He loves you, Jess. 422 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:01,320 And needs you. 423 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,960 And the kids need him. 424 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:05,960 I don't believe him, Mum. 425 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,960 No, I'm sure you don't, and it's shite, but... 426 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:12,960 nothing's perfect. 427 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,960 Not even you. Hm! 428 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,960 Call you later. OK. 429 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,960 So, my mum, Yetunde, was a second-generation Nigerian. 430 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,480 Her parents came over here after the war, 431 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,960 and she was born in 1946. 432 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,960 And in August 1963, age 17, 433 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,960 she got a job as a cleaner in the city stockbroker's 434 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,160 where her parents already worked in the canteen. 435 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:27,960 The son of one of the directors was working there in the months 436 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,960 between Wallingham and Cambridge, 437 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,320 and one night, after drinking with work friends, 438 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,960 he went back to the office late to pick up some papers 439 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,960 and encountered my mum, who was working nights. 440 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:48,160 And after pressuring her to have a few drinks with him... 441 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,960 ..raped her. 442 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:58,160 She went back home that night and, of course, told her parents. 443 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,160 Who blamed her. 444 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,960 And she did consider going to the police, but, er... 445 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,640 in the end, didn't because... 446 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,960 he was the rich, white, son of the boss. 447 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,480 And... she wasn't. 448 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,960 A few weeks later, she realised that she was pregnant 449 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:24,960 and wrote to the son, who was now at university. 450 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,960 And... he didn't reply, 451 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,960 so she wrote to his father - 452 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,960 Sir Henry Hume... 453 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,960 ..who asked her to come into his office 454 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,960 and told her that if she pursued this any further, 455 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,960 he'd sack her and her parents. 456 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,960 Morgan Lavelle had originally made their money 457 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,480 from the sugar trade, 458 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,960 so she really shouldn't have been so surprised. 459 00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:01,960 And on the 3rd of March, 1964, I was born. 460 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,960 Three weeks later, she wrote me a letter 461 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,800 which, erm, was meant to be given to me on my 18th birthday. 462 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,960 And deposited it with a local solicitor... 463 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,960 ..and... 464 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,960 ..jumped in the Thames. 465 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,960 I was raised by my grandparents, who... 466 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,960 saw me as a child of evil 467 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:36,960 and filled me with shame and self-hatred. 468 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,960 And after I read that, I realised why. 469 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:48,960 So if he told you that he was decent about it 470 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:54,960 when I finally approached him, then, again, he lied. 471 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,960 He was much more interested in protecting his reputation 472 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:04,640 and made a number of threats of violence against me. 473 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,800 I ignored them, and I got his DNA from a glass 474 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,960 at a lecture that he did, 475 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,960 and had a test done and told him that I would go to 476 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,960 the News Of The World with the result. 477 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,960 That was 1988. Yeah. 478 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,960 After that, he was a pussy cat. 479 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,960 So nothing about him is what it seems. 480 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,640 And whatever he told you about that night, 481 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,960 whatever he told me, won't be what actually happened. 482 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,960 So, why don't you tell us what you witnessed there? 483 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,960 He called me and said that... 484 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,960 Joseph had called him, threatening him. 485 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,960 Did Joseph know that this was his great grandfather? 486 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:23,000 I had told Precious about Hume a few months before. 487 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,640 I guess she had then told Joseph. 488 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,480 And why hadn't you told her about him before then? 489 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:35,000 Because I knew that she would mess up the financial arrangement. 490 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,160 Which I needed. 491 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,960 So? So, erm... 492 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,960 After my father called me, we both headed to Waterman Road. 493 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,960 And when I arrived, I walked in... 494 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,960 ..to a vision from hell. 495 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:03,960 My daughter was already dead, and my grandson was dying. 496 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:09,960 And my father told me that my daughter had shot her son... 497 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,960 accidentally, and then shot herself. 498 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,960 Did he tell you how that happened? 499 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,960 He said that Joseph had taken drugs, 500 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,960 and that there'd been some sort of row about money, 501 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,960 and that he'd pointed a gun at Hume, 502 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,000 and that Precious had tried to get it off him, 503 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,640 and it had gone off, hitting Joe. 504 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,960 And she'd then turned it on herself. 505 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,960 OK. And did you ever question this version of events? 506 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,960 Oh... No, not in the moment, no. 507 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,960 You know, I was in shock, obviously. 508 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,960 And also, I'd only met Joseph three or four times, 509 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,960 and I knew that he'd already been in 510 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,960 a young offenders institute for assault using a gun. 511 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,960 And in that moment, in the panic and horror, 512 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,960 being told that by Lord Anthony Hume, 513 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,960 I'm embarrassed to say that I... I... I believed him. 514 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,960 Do you believe it now? No. No. 515 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,960 So, what do you think happened? 516 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,960 I don't know. 517 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:25,960 I just know that he is an evil, lying bastard, 518 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,960 and he could have done absolutely anything. 519 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,960 He... Maybe he shot them both. 520 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,960 I don't know. 521 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,800 And the disposal of the bodies? 522 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,960 He told me that if we called the police... 523 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,960 ..they might not believe it was an accident, 524 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,160 because of... MY criminal record. 525 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,960 He-He wanted to take them both... 526 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,160 ..but I said I wanted to look after Precious. 527 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:07,160 And I spent the... 528 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,960 ..whole night with her, just holding her, 529 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,960 and rocking her, and singing to her. 530 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,960 Saying sorry to her. 531 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,000 And then... 532 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,960 And then it was morning. 533 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:25,960 And... 534 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,960 ..I walked out to the car, 535 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,960 and there were workmen in the street. 536 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,960 I have regretted what I did. 537 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,320 Every single day since. 538 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,960 Because it was a dreadful way to treat my daughter. 539 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,960 But... 540 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,800 ..that was me. 541 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:06,960 A few weeks later, I took Precious's keys to get back in 542 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,960 and had some friend put a plasterboard. 543 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,960 OK, erm... 544 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,960 Just... Just one last question. 545 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,960 Does the name Jay Royce mean anything to you? 546 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,960 Who's Jay Royce? 547 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,960 Jay? What d'you want? 548 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,960 Can we talk about that night, please? 549 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,960 Why? Nothing ever changes. 550 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,960 People like me don't win against people like him. 551 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,960 I'm so sorry that was yours and Joseph's experience. 552 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,960 But we're here to tell you... 553 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,960 that if you trust us, we will change that. 554 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,960 We will listen to you, and we will act on what you tell us. 555 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,960 But if you stay silent, then all I can say is, yeah... 556 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,640 ..he probably will win again. 557 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,800 I was one floor up. 558 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,960 My mum didn't want me to meet my nan or him, so... 559 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,960 I was playing on my Game Boy. 560 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,960 I saw Hume arrive in his car out of a bedroom window. 561 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,320 So... he arrived first? 562 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,960 Good ten minutes before my nan. 563 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,960 I weren't interested in meeting either of them, 564 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,960 so I was just waiting for them to leave. 565 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,960 Except then I started to hear shouting. 566 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,960 Joe mainly, but Mum as well. 567 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,960 Both screaming at Hume, really. 568 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,960 So I walked out onto the landing. 569 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,960 My brother was obviously off his face, 570 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,960 pointing and jabbing at Hume. 571 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,960 Telling him he was a dirty bastard, 572 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,960 and that he should fuck him up proper 573 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,160 for what he had done to our family... 574 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,000 to our nan's mum. 575 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,960 And he's screaming right in front of him, 576 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,320 and all this spit's getting in Hume's face. 577 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,320 Then suddenly, Hume's got his hand round Joe's neck, 578 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,640 and he slammed him up against a wall. 579 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,960 Said he could have him disappeared in an instant if he wanted. 580 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,960 Cos he was that fucking powerful. 581 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,960 And he's squeezing Joe's neck. 582 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,960 And squeezing and squeezing, 583 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,960 and I'm thinking he's gonna choke him. 584 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,960 He's gonna kill him. 585 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,960 Which is when Joe pulls out this gun from the back of his trousers. 586 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,960 And Hume goes very fucking quiet very quick. 587 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,160 Starts to back away with his hands up. 588 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,960 My mum's shitting herself 589 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,960 and telling Joe to put it down, but he won't. 590 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,960 And he's still shouting back at both of them. 591 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,960 And then my mum just makes a grab for it, 592 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,960 and it all goes quiet as she wrestles with him. 593 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,640 Then there's a bang. 594 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:57,000 And she goes down. 595 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,960 And Joe's in shock, man, and not really taking it all in. 596 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,640 My mum's eyes are rolling up into her fucking head. 597 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,160 And Hume's asking for the gun. 598 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,960 Joe just gives it to him. 599 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,960 Meek as a lamb now. 600 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,960 Then Joe kneels by Mum to take her hand... 601 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,960 ..which is when Hume shoots him. 602 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,960 In the back of the head. 603 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,960 And there was obviously nothing I could do. 604 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,960 You know, I was 14. 605 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,640 I was also terrified he'd hear me and he'd kill me. 606 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,960 So I sort of just... 607 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,640 I sort of just froze. 608 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,960 And then I heard my nan's car arriving, 609 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,960 and she walked in and just started wailing. 610 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,960 So I used the noise to go upstairs. 611 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,960 To the very top floor and hide in a cupboard under the eaves. 612 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,960 I stayed there for two whole days. 613 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,960 When I finally came down... 614 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,960 the bodies had gone. 615 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,960 Hume had gone. 616 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,960 The blood had gone. 617 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,480 Some of my mum's things were still there, like... 618 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,960 Like, her laptop was... was in the drawer, 619 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,960 and, erm... a few of her clothes, which I took. 620 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:28,960 And then I just ran. 621 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,320 We wonder how kids like him turn out like they do. 622 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,960 Right, let's see what Hume has to say now. 623 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,000 The lies that we tell ourselves. 624 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:01,960 That that wasn't rape. 625 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,960 That she liked me. 626 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,960 That I was a good man, who'd led a good life, 627 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,960 who'd leave good behind. 628 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,960 Best part of my life... 629 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:15,960 I truly believed that. 630 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,480 Then in one instant... 631 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,960 one look... 632 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,800 ..it all fell away. 633 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,960 I saw myself honestly. 634 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:32,960 I couldn't bear it. 635 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:33,960 To see who I really was. 636 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,960 The awful truth. 637 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,800 So I... 638 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,960 I snuffed it out. 639 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,960 So you shot Joseph Bell? 640 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,960 Yes. I did. 641 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,960 And I have tried so hard for the last six years 642 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,960 to make some amends. 643 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,960 But, of course, it was never even close to being enough. 644 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,960 For that... 645 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:31,160 ..for what I did... 646 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,640 ..I am so, so... 647 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,960 ..so sorry. 648 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,640 I mean, I wouldn't give up the day job, 649 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,960 but, er, there's definitely something there. 650 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,960 You weren't trying to make amends, Mr Hume. 651 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:02,960 You just saw the catastrophic effect of your life's work 652 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,640 and realised that that's how you'd be remembered. 653 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,640 You were just trying to improve your Wiki page. 654 00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,960 Yeah. We see you. 655 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,960 Well, consider this, Lord Anthony Hume, 656 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,960 you will only ever be remembered as a rapist 657 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,960 who murdered his own great-grandson. 658 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,960 That's your fucking legacy, fella. 659 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,960 I hope they throw away the key. 660 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,960 We'll get someone to take you to your cell. 661 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,960 Are you Jay? Yes. 662 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,160 Do you know who I am? 663 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,320 I think so. 664 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,960 I'm your nan, Jay. 665 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:18,960 I'm Bele. 666 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:21,960 Hello, Nan. 667 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,960 I am so sorry, little one. 668 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,960 I am so, so sorry. 669 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,960 I told them, Nan. 670 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,960 I told them he did it. 671 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,960 I know, sweetheart. 672 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,960 They rang. 673 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,960 So now we know the truth. Except you don't. 674 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,960 Sorry? I lied. 675 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,960 Mum killed Joe. 676 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,960 Accidentally, trying to get the gun off him. 677 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,000 Then shot herself. 678 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,960 But it was all his fault, what happened to our family. 679 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,480 'From him raping your mum to everything that come after, 680 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,960 'it was all down to him. 681 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,960 'So I just thought, "Fuck him," y'know?' 682 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,960 What's good for the goose, man, innit? 683 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,960 Just... fuck him. 684 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,960 There you are. 685 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,960 Sorry about earlier. 686 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,960 That was, er... that was a bit unprofessional. 687 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:42,960 No apology needed. 688 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,960 You took the words right out of my mouth. 689 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,000 CPS call yet? 690 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,960 Said we can charge him with the murder and the rape. 691 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,960 Nice! 692 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,960 Wasn't expecting both. 693 00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,960 That's a 57-year-old crime, DCI James. 694 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,640 A Bishop Street record. 695 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,160 Well, for now. 696 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,960 And it's Jessie, please. 697 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,960 Jessie James. 698 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,480 So, you ever held up a stagecoach? Held up a bar! 699 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,960 Well, now you're talking. I'll get my horse. 53172

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