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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,208 --> 00:00:11,178           (theme music)          2 00:00:23,990 --> 00:00:26,560  - Yeah, I was the Crime Editor    at the Sydney Morning Herald   3 00:00:26,626 --> 00:00:28,926    when the arrests were made.       I still remember the day.    4 00:00:28,995 --> 00:00:31,025    The cruise ship docking in             Sydney harbour          5 00:00:31,097 --> 00:00:33,627 and the press release coming out            from police           6 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:36,470       that two young women        and a slightly older gentleman  7 00:00:36,536 --> 00:00:39,536      had been picked up with          95 kilograms of cocaine     8 00:00:39,606 --> 00:00:41,036    on board this cruise ship.    9 00:00:42,575 --> 00:00:44,505        - This case jumped                right out at me.         10 00:00:44,577 --> 00:00:48,677   At the time, I was the Deputy           Digital Editor                 for Maxim Magazine,       11 00:00:48,748 --> 00:00:52,318        And Maxim Magazine             has a special interest      12 00:00:52,385 --> 00:00:54,045        in beautiful women                   in bikinis.           13 00:00:56,956 --> 00:01:00,786  You know, we knew just based on   Maxim's history as a magazine  14 00:01:00,860 --> 00:01:02,660      that we were gonna get             plenty of readers.        15 00:01:02,729 --> 00:01:06,699 My instinct said, Yeah, you need  to write something about this.  16 00:01:09,069 --> 00:01:12,469     - Britain's tabloid press      is both intensely moralizing   17 00:01:12,539 --> 00:01:15,979  but also loves to show pictures        of beautiful women        18 00:01:16,042 --> 00:01:18,012       in not much clothing.      19 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,150     If you ask a news editor         for the elements he wants               in a story,           20 00:01:23,216 --> 00:01:25,146      it would be this story.     21 00:01:27,954 --> 00:01:29,994       - So we just started               writing about it         22 00:01:30,056 --> 00:01:32,286   and our readers couldn't get         enough of this story.      23 00:01:32,358 --> 00:01:33,958        - Once we got off,              it was in the press,       24 00:01:34,027 --> 00:01:36,827   it was absolutely everywhere,            it was on TV,          25 00:01:36,896 --> 00:01:38,696  all channels seemed to have it. 26 00:01:38,765 --> 00:01:40,395    - Once we wrote one story,    27 00:01:40,467 --> 00:01:43,167    readers just wanted to read        more and more and more.     28 00:01:50,610 --> 00:01:52,380         - Yeah, poor Dad.        29 00:01:52,445 --> 00:01:53,675         I remember, um...        30 00:01:53,746 --> 00:01:57,616  when I was able to put numbers     on my "roster" they'd call,   31 00:01:57,684 --> 00:02:01,094  like a line-up of phone numbers   that you can have in prison.   32 00:02:01,154 --> 00:02:03,164    I just decided to ring him             and he's like,          33 00:02:03,223 --> 00:02:05,833      "Now you gotta give me         your passwords to Facebook    34 00:02:05,892 --> 00:02:08,662    and Instagram and Snapchat,        because it's not fine."     35 00:02:08,728 --> 00:02:10,528       People were so mean.       36 00:02:10,597 --> 00:02:13,027          - First of all,              it'd attract attention      37 00:02:13,099 --> 00:02:15,339      because they were young             and good-looking,        38 00:02:15,401 --> 00:02:18,711  and then second of all, it was     of a way to laugh at them,    39 00:02:18,771 --> 00:02:22,711   to kind of think of them as,           I guess, vacuous                 or narcissistic.         40 00:02:22,775 --> 00:02:26,205    - It was just bad comments,            very degrading,         41 00:02:26,279 --> 00:02:29,349       very, very degrading        about, like, appearance first,  42 00:02:29,415 --> 00:02:32,015   and these girls were looking            for attention,          43 00:02:32,085 --> 00:02:33,185        they were so stupid       44 00:02:33,253 --> 00:02:35,723     'cause they were posting          all of their journey...     45 00:02:35,788 --> 00:02:38,628    - You know, they're calling          my niece off, like          they're calling her an idiot,  46 00:02:38,691 --> 00:02:43,731  and like, a pretentious little     fucking like Instagram twat             or whatever.           47 00:02:43,796 --> 00:02:47,226       - One of the problems         in reporting news like this   48 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:51,400     is you're very aware that        your audience, no matter        how neutral you try to be,    49 00:02:51,471 --> 00:02:52,841        is going to judge.        50 00:02:56,376 --> 00:02:59,546  - People were really creative,      actually, made me laugh.     51 00:02:59,612 --> 00:03:02,452 People were like, don't read it,  you're gonna be hurt and stuff, 52 00:03:02,515 --> 00:03:04,475        but I thought that          people were really creative.   53 00:03:04,551 --> 00:03:07,251      Some were pretty funny,               I must admit.          54 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,660      You gotta always laugh          at yourself a little bit.    55 00:03:10,723 --> 00:03:15,093  I remember a picture I posted.    I was in the water in Tahiti   56 00:03:15,161 --> 00:03:19,101 with the nice mountain and I was     drinking a coconut water,    57 00:03:19,165 --> 00:03:21,965      and the quote was like,           coconut water detox,       58 00:03:22,035 --> 00:03:25,665    and then people were like,       "Oh now, you're gonna have         the prison food detox."     59 00:03:25,738 --> 00:03:28,238       And stuff like that,            like being all stupid.      60 00:03:28,308 --> 00:03:32,778  But yeah, I didn't expect much      from Internet, you know?     61 00:03:32,845 --> 00:03:34,605           It's alright.          62 00:03:38,885 --> 00:03:40,915       - Like, the headlines              were click bait.         63 00:03:40,987 --> 00:03:42,987  They were embarrassing to read. 64 00:03:43,056 --> 00:03:48,596   It looked very unprofessional    at work reading some of these       stories on my computer.     65 00:03:48,661 --> 00:03:53,101     - I saw "Cocaine babes",      I saw "Cocaine cuties" as well. 66 00:03:53,166 --> 00:03:56,296   - Once one person calls them           the Cocaine Babe,        67 00:03:56,369 --> 00:03:58,739        then other people,                editors would go,        68 00:03:58,805 --> 00:04:01,565     "Oh, we need to call them          Cocaine Babes 'cause            that's what they are."      69 00:04:01,641 --> 00:04:05,311   - You know, it's a photocopy      of a photocopy of a story,            which is normal.         70 00:04:05,378 --> 00:04:08,278  It's not the first or last time        that's gonna occur                around the world,        71 00:04:08,348 --> 00:04:10,418      but I'm not gonna throw         everybody under the bus,     72 00:04:10,483 --> 00:04:12,353     I mean, they're operating         on limited information,              which is fine,          73 00:04:12,418 --> 00:04:13,988  and they have a story to write. 74 00:04:14,053 --> 00:04:16,893        There's timelines,             there's things you have      to strike when the iron is hot. 75 00:04:16,956 --> 00:04:18,826         This is the story                   of the day.           76 00:04:18,891 --> 00:04:21,561  But what I saw firsthand was... 77 00:04:21,628 --> 00:04:25,368       I wanna use the word                perhaps, uh...          78 00:04:27,367 --> 00:04:30,037         Lazy. That's all.        79 00:04:33,072 --> 00:04:35,942 - I mean, the press were getting           things wrong.          80 00:04:36,009 --> 00:04:38,179   The press said that they were     getting on at Southampton,    81 00:04:38,244 --> 00:04:40,514   we never went to Southampton,          we were in Dover.        82 00:04:40,580 --> 00:04:43,220      We know they definitely             got on in Dover.         83 00:04:43,283 --> 00:04:45,923    - They did board the ship,          the MS Sea Princess,       84 00:04:45,985 --> 00:04:48,285       you can see it here,           in Southampton, England.     85 00:04:48,354 --> 00:04:51,564   - They had boarded the vessel      in Southampton, England.     86 00:04:52,392 --> 00:04:54,892    - There was good journalism   87 00:04:54,961 --> 00:04:57,831   which did a lot of researches  88 00:04:57,897 --> 00:05:00,297    and did a pretty good job.    89 00:05:00,366 --> 00:05:04,036         But most of them          really rushed articles, I feel, 90 00:05:04,103 --> 00:05:06,243          and they didn't                really do research.       91 00:05:06,306 --> 00:05:08,706    There was a lot of mistakes          about, for example,       92 00:05:08,775 --> 00:05:11,475       it was Melina's photo         with my name underneath it.   93 00:05:11,544 --> 00:05:15,114   - 23-year-old Melina Roberge          has pleaded guilty        94 00:05:15,181 --> 00:05:18,991        after being caught          with 95 kilograms of cocaine.  95 00:05:19,052 --> 00:05:24,162 - I feel like they did very much         get covered like               basically one person,      96 00:05:24,223 --> 00:05:26,293    one bad girl, so to speak.    97 00:05:29,929 --> 00:05:35,029   - I know that there was many   stories calling her a porn star. 98 00:05:35,101 --> 00:05:37,801    That's all we kind of heard           for a long time.         99 00:05:37,870 --> 00:05:41,170   - I felt like it wasn't even       about the story no more,     100 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,510  it was about us being escorts.  101 00:06:03,363 --> 00:06:06,703     - I mean, I did one sexy     photo shoot, I was 19 years old. 102 00:06:06,766 --> 00:06:09,036   They took the photos and just   made it out to be that I was--  103 00:06:09,102 --> 00:06:10,972   That was my career, you know?  104 00:06:12,038 --> 00:06:14,238       So when I was 19, um,      105 00:06:14,307 --> 00:06:16,907      a friend of the family              was a photograph         106 00:06:16,976 --> 00:06:18,306            and she was                 working on a project       107 00:06:18,378 --> 00:06:20,308      and she needed models.      108 00:06:20,380 --> 00:06:25,220  So I wasn't aware of the impact   that such photos would have,   109 00:06:25,284 --> 00:06:27,994   and I didn't expect to become  110 00:06:28,054 --> 00:06:30,564 "famous-infamous" in that sense. 111 00:06:30,623 --> 00:06:34,963   So, I was fine with my body,        I was fine with nudity,     112 00:06:35,027 --> 00:06:37,157      it's beautiful photos.      113 00:06:37,230 --> 00:06:41,430    But I didn't think I would        regret it as much as, um,    114 00:06:41,501 --> 00:06:44,541          I regretted it                when I got arrested.       115 00:06:45,438 --> 00:06:49,138        Because it was used                on a porn site          116 00:06:49,208 --> 00:06:52,038   and also overused afterwards,  117 00:06:52,111 --> 00:06:54,081   people could save the photos            for themselves          118 00:06:54,147 --> 00:06:56,017           then share it                on other porn sites.       119 00:06:56,082 --> 00:06:58,282   So it ended up on porn sites,  120 00:06:58,351 --> 00:07:01,521     but I'm not a porn star,              or porn model,          121 00:07:01,587 --> 00:07:05,057     it was just a young girl             who decided to do               a nice photo shoot,       122 00:07:05,124 --> 00:07:07,664     and then it just went...                 You know.            123 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,540      - I think the coverage            of André's story was                so interesting.         124 00:07:50,603 --> 00:07:53,173        He had more drugs,              they were worth more,      125 00:07:53,239 --> 00:07:55,939     yet there's no attention       of his photos on the beaches,  126 00:07:56,008 --> 00:07:57,678      or him in his swimsuit.     127 00:07:57,743 --> 00:08:00,113        - Yeah, he was paid                  more money,           128 00:08:00,179 --> 00:08:02,449      he did have more drugs                  with him.            129 00:08:02,515 --> 00:08:04,715      But we just never hear                 about him,            130 00:08:04,784 --> 00:08:07,194   because he didn't take photos    and put them up on Instagram.  131 00:08:07,253 --> 00:08:08,993      - So I don't know a lot                about him.            132 00:08:09,055 --> 00:08:13,285  Obviously, the report intended         to focus on the two          extremely attractive women,   133 00:08:13,359 --> 00:08:15,559            as opposed                 to the 64-year-old man.     134 00:08:18,931 --> 00:08:20,771              - Um...             135 00:08:22,068 --> 00:08:23,838         He's not as sexy.        136 00:08:23,903 --> 00:08:26,573          He's not as...              He's not as interesting.     137 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:29,109  64-year-old man gets done for-- 138 00:08:29,175 --> 00:08:31,635          Gets convicted                for drug smuggling...      139 00:08:31,711 --> 00:08:34,611  The stories of the two ladies,              that's...            140 00:08:34,680 --> 00:08:37,150        That's just the way         British tabloid media works.   141 00:08:42,121 --> 00:08:47,191    - Hmm, of course, he didn't       have, like, bikini shots          on the beach in Tahiti.     142 00:08:47,260 --> 00:08:50,460      So he was less enticing                 for them.            143 00:08:50,530 --> 00:08:52,160          Like... less...         144 00:08:52,231 --> 00:08:56,271   It was easier to make stories              about us,            145 00:08:56,335 --> 00:09:00,565    because we were more active       on the socials, I guess.     146 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,580     They did what they could           to just sell clicks,       147 00:09:02,642 --> 00:09:05,652       and it was the story         so I think they wanted to...   148 00:09:05,711 --> 00:09:07,881      get the story out quick     149 00:09:07,947 --> 00:09:10,047  and just didn't really research             anything.            150 00:09:10,116 --> 00:09:11,576             And yeah.            151 00:09:11,651 --> 00:09:14,221 - Looking at it from their point    of view, I don't blame them   152 00:09:14,287 --> 00:09:16,857    if they feel a little salty      about the kind of coverage                they got.            153 00:09:16,923 --> 00:09:20,663    Either from my publication,          or the publication           where I was at at the time,   154 00:09:20,726 --> 00:09:22,696    or any newspaper coverage.    155 00:09:22,762 --> 00:09:24,762 - I can only use the information        I'm presented with.       156 00:09:24,830 --> 00:09:27,970   If an Australian media outlet          is saying they...        157 00:09:28,034 --> 00:09:30,204     They engaged in sex work,    158 00:09:31,370 --> 00:09:32,470             you know,            159 00:09:32,538 --> 00:09:35,168     with hindsight, I'd like         to have checked that up,     160 00:09:35,241 --> 00:09:37,511    would I have had the time?            'Cause you know,         161 00:09:37,577 --> 00:09:39,307      it's high turnover news                these days.           162 00:09:39,378 --> 00:09:42,978  But there is a salacious aspect        to that sometimes,        163 00:09:43,049 --> 00:09:45,589     made it a little bit hard         to look in the mirror.      164 00:09:52,558 --> 00:09:55,758  - You can't quantify or qualify           how it hurts.          165 00:09:57,129 --> 00:10:00,499        But you would have              to be born yesterday       166 00:10:00,566 --> 00:10:02,196     to think that it doesn't.    167 00:10:02,268 --> 00:10:05,538      Right? And just because       you can't quantify or qualify              something            168 00:10:05,605 --> 00:10:07,635           doesn't mean                that it's not apparent.     169 00:10:07,707 --> 00:10:09,877  And it certainly was apparent.  170 00:10:09,942 --> 00:10:13,782        - She wanted to be               the envy of others.       171 00:10:15,214 --> 00:10:17,754        I doubt she is now.       172 00:10:23,689 --> 00:10:25,559       - The first move was             to develop a strategy      173 00:10:25,625 --> 00:10:27,225              and get                  the brief of evidence.      174 00:10:27,293 --> 00:10:29,633   The evidence was prima facie.  175 00:10:29,695 --> 00:10:32,525     It was illicit substances              in the room,           176 00:10:32,598 --> 00:10:35,638 with their names on the manifest           with control.          177 00:10:35,701 --> 00:10:39,641     - It's a pretty hard case                to argue             178 00:10:39,705 --> 00:10:43,205    when there's large amounts            of cocaine inside             your cruise ship cabin.     179 00:10:43,275 --> 00:10:47,945        - There was no way          that I would win in a trial.   180 00:10:48,014 --> 00:10:50,084    - They had done the crime,    181 00:10:50,149 --> 00:10:52,749    so they're always gonna be              sent to jail.          182 00:10:54,353 --> 00:10:59,133    - But when you plead guilty      early, you get a discount.    183 00:11:01,027 --> 00:11:03,527        - So in Australia,              if you plead guilty,       184 00:11:03,596 --> 00:11:05,396    you usually get a discount            on your sentence.        185 00:11:05,464 --> 00:11:07,704      And usually it's 25 %.      186 00:11:07,767 --> 00:11:09,537         To kind of unclog                the court system,        187 00:11:09,602 --> 00:11:11,542            otherwise,                 everyone would just go,     188 00:11:11,604 --> 00:11:13,974     "Even if I know I did it,          I'll take a chance."       189 00:11:35,661 --> 00:11:37,601            (laughing)            190 00:11:37,663 --> 00:11:39,273         - Aw, poor Alex.         191 00:11:39,331 --> 00:11:43,571 He really thought like Australia  was like a third-world country            or something,          192 00:11:43,636 --> 00:11:46,636   I could just run away and...             I don't know.          193 00:12:12,932 --> 00:12:16,902    - Yeah, Louis was... really    wary of that in the beginning.  194 00:12:16,969 --> 00:12:19,339       Before they called it                a committal.           195 00:12:20,306 --> 00:12:23,036   She was already a bit weird,        you know, in the wing,      196 00:12:23,109 --> 00:12:26,279         like avoiding me,               being very evasive        197 00:12:26,345 --> 00:12:28,405        about her meetings                with her lawyer,         198 00:12:28,481 --> 00:12:30,481            not really                    opening up to me,        199 00:12:30,549 --> 00:12:32,179          and I was like,              that's weird, you know,     200 00:12:32,251 --> 00:12:35,191    because I was always like,             You need help?                 You need anything?        201 00:12:35,254 --> 00:12:36,764     We're sticking together,     202 00:12:36,822 --> 00:12:39,192   we gotta have the same story,           blah blah blah.         203 00:12:41,227 --> 00:12:43,697      But yeah, at committal,          it was such a betrayal.     204 00:12:43,763 --> 00:12:46,103      Yeah, I felt betrayed.      205 00:12:49,368 --> 00:12:51,538    - It was quite the moment,              if you will.           206 00:12:52,171 --> 00:12:54,071    - Our legal teams were just   207 00:12:54,140 --> 00:12:58,680 presenting our intention of plea      in front of the judge.      208 00:13:00,546 --> 00:13:04,416       And there was André,                 Melina and I.          209 00:13:04,483 --> 00:13:05,853      And Louis spoke first.      210 00:13:05,918 --> 00:13:09,018      Said that I was showing       intention of pleading guilty.  211 00:13:09,088 --> 00:13:12,258      Then it was her lawyer,         and I remember she sat...    212 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:18,460    - There was a legal opening     for the co-defendant, Melina,  213 00:13:18,531 --> 00:13:20,231      that their lawyer used.     214 00:13:20,299 --> 00:13:22,939       From a legal strategy         point of view, rightly so.    215 00:13:23,869 --> 00:13:27,639 Isabelle, when the border patrol         officers came in,        216 00:13:27,706 --> 00:13:30,406   stated that, "That's my bag."  217 00:13:30,476 --> 00:13:32,376  - They asked if it was my bed,             I said yes,           218 00:13:32,444 --> 00:13:34,354     and they asked if it was        my luggage and I said yes.    219 00:13:34,413 --> 00:13:38,253        - That was the bag            that ultimately contained              the cocaine.           220 00:13:38,317 --> 00:13:39,847            With that,            221 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:43,689        and because we were          pleading guilty very early,   222 00:13:43,756 --> 00:13:46,526       there was an opening,           strategically speaking,     223 00:13:46,592 --> 00:13:49,632  to allow the other co-defendant   who was in the room with her,  224 00:13:49,695 --> 00:13:52,695    to state that, Hey, why do       I have a case to answer for   225 00:13:52,765 --> 00:13:55,065    because she clearly states          that that's her bag,       226 00:13:55,134 --> 00:13:57,304     and she's pleading guilty                to this?             227 00:13:57,369 --> 00:13:59,409           (soft music)           228 00:14:06,445 --> 00:14:07,845        - Broke her heart.        229 00:14:09,014 --> 00:14:11,224       She felt heartbroken.      230 00:14:11,283 --> 00:14:14,753  - These women were frightened,   they were in a foreign country, 231 00:14:14,820 --> 00:14:19,020     facing serious jail time.      Melina, I'm sure, was scared.  232 00:14:19,091 --> 00:14:23,631   - 28-year-old Isabelle Lagacé           pleaded guilty               to cocaine trafficking,     233 00:14:23,696 --> 00:14:26,226   two other Quebecers are also         accused in the case,       234 00:14:26,298 --> 00:14:28,168   they have pleaded not guilty.  235 00:14:46,285 --> 00:14:48,815   - I wished that she would've             just told me.          236 00:14:48,888 --> 00:14:50,858         As a 22-year-old         237 00:14:50,923 --> 00:14:54,093      that wanted to go back                 to her life           238 00:14:54,159 --> 00:14:56,899      and be with her family,           I totally understand,                 I get that.           239 00:14:56,962 --> 00:14:58,902      I understand, you know?     240 00:14:58,964 --> 00:15:00,804           She's young,                 she wants to get out.      241 00:15:00,866 --> 00:15:02,666      But you won't get out,                  you know?            242 00:15:02,735 --> 00:15:04,995  I put myself in that situation,             you know?            243 00:15:05,070 --> 00:15:07,470      Okay, I met bad people          and they offered me this,    244 00:15:07,539 --> 00:15:09,639    but I also wanted the money   245 00:15:09,708 --> 00:15:12,438        and I knew exactly         what I was getting myself into. 246 00:15:12,511 --> 00:15:15,081       Not... 100 % knowing,      247 00:15:15,147 --> 00:15:19,177    but I knew that I was going       to do something illegal.     248 00:15:19,251 --> 00:15:22,421           And you know,               you don't do the crime      249 00:15:22,488 --> 00:15:24,618     if you can't do the time,    250 00:15:24,690 --> 00:15:26,790         it's super cliché              but that's really it.      251 00:15:26,859 --> 00:15:29,329   - This was really a decision            that she made,          252 00:15:29,395 --> 00:15:33,725    and she was willing to face    the penalties of that decision. 253 00:15:33,799 --> 00:15:36,999    And... you have to respect                  that.              254 00:16:18,277 --> 00:16:20,247         (birds chirping)         255 00:16:20,312 --> 00:16:24,322   - Ooh, I don't think I slept        a lot the night before.     256 00:16:24,383 --> 00:16:26,623   It was a pretty big day too.   257 00:16:26,685 --> 00:16:29,315          They get you up                 at like 4:00 A.M.        258 00:16:29,388 --> 00:16:31,358  You can put normal clothes on.  259 00:16:31,423 --> 00:16:33,493    Then when they call you and        they bring you up, ugh,     260 00:16:33,559 --> 00:16:35,389     it's just nerve-wracking.    261 00:16:35,461 --> 00:16:37,401           (soft music)           262 00:16:50,542 --> 00:16:53,082    Everything happened so fast                and...              263 00:16:53,145 --> 00:16:57,015     I didn't understand that       she was saying it, you know?   264 00:16:57,082 --> 00:16:59,792        I was really afraid                 I would get--          265 00:16:59,852 --> 00:17:03,292  You know, I was facing 25 years        and then she said,        266 00:17:03,355 --> 00:17:06,055     with a non-parole period         of four and a half years,    267 00:17:06,125 --> 00:17:08,525      and I was... so happy.      268 00:17:08,594 --> 00:17:12,464       I thought to myself,             this is a win for me,      269 00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:16,941          and it's a win            because I didn't drop names,   270 00:17:17,002 --> 00:17:18,842         and I still have               four and a half years      271 00:17:18,904 --> 00:17:20,874   and I have a life after that.              You know?            272 00:17:21,874 --> 00:17:25,214    - We were all quite pleased          with that outcome.        273 00:17:25,844 --> 00:17:29,724  You're not the orchestrator of,   and that was shown at court,   274 00:17:29,782 --> 00:17:31,722    you're not the orchestrator             of anything.           275 00:17:31,784 --> 00:17:36,094     I would imagine the vast      financial benefit is not yours, 276 00:17:36,155 --> 00:17:41,755           you're really               a pawn in a chessboard      277 00:17:41,827 --> 00:17:44,127        that's disposable.        278 00:17:46,098 --> 00:17:49,498  These people who were involved        in this were really,       279 00:17:49,568 --> 00:17:51,168         without a doubt,         280 00:17:51,236 --> 00:17:54,836   disposable at every junction,           it seemed like.         281 00:17:54,907 --> 00:17:57,137   - Silence, please, all stand.  282 00:17:58,177 --> 00:18:00,377         - Melina Roberge,        283 00:18:00,446 --> 00:18:04,376    you are sentenced to a term            of imprisonment         284 00:18:04,450 --> 00:18:06,520         for eight years.         285 00:18:06,585 --> 00:18:09,515 - The young escort was recruited             by a man             286 00:18:09,588 --> 00:18:12,088       referred to in court             as the "Sugar Daddy"       287 00:18:12,157 --> 00:18:14,557      to draw attention away            from the drug mules,       288 00:18:14,626 --> 00:18:18,056     look glamourous and post      Instagram photos of her voyage. 289 00:18:18,130 --> 00:18:23,840  - It is sad that a 22-year-old            was prepared           290 00:18:23,902 --> 00:18:28,172          to be involved            in the importation of cocaine  291 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:33,650   so she could post glamourous           photos of herself        292 00:18:33,712 --> 00:18:37,082  on social media and get likes.  293 00:18:37,149 --> 00:18:40,389      - I think she was kind        of obligated to say to anyone  294 00:18:40,452 --> 00:18:42,922   who was listening or reading,  295 00:18:42,988 --> 00:18:46,628   if you think that you can get           a free holiday          296 00:18:46,692 --> 00:18:48,762     and take Instagram photos        and just not think about     297 00:18:48,827 --> 00:18:50,427        what's in that bag                 under the bed,          298 00:18:50,496 --> 00:18:51,756      you should think again.     299 00:19:46,852 --> 00:19:49,152       - Like, in his case,           if someone pleads guilty     300 00:19:49,221 --> 00:19:51,321   to what they've been charged                 with,              301 00:19:51,390 --> 00:19:52,960        we don't go through           the whole trial process,     302 00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:54,655  so we don't get to hear from... 303 00:19:54,726 --> 00:19:58,356  witnesses, we don't really get     to hear the police evidence               in full,             304 00:19:58,430 --> 00:20:01,200      and we don't get a lot               of explanation          305 00:20:01,266 --> 00:20:02,866     as to how this happened,            why did this happen       306 00:20:02,935 --> 00:20:05,035    and how did we end up here.   307 00:20:05,103 --> 00:20:08,113         It does leave you           asking a lot of questions.    308 00:20:10,542 --> 00:20:12,952   You know, I talk about these      two women being drug mules,   309 00:20:13,011 --> 00:20:15,481        and being picked up               and now arrested         310 00:20:15,547 --> 00:20:19,147   and spending 8 years in jail,    but these drug organizations,  311 00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:21,318     they don't think anything                of that.             312 00:20:21,386 --> 00:20:25,486  They immediately would've been   finding two other women or men  313 00:20:25,557 --> 00:20:27,187          or other mules.         314 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:33,330     - It is rare that you get              the Mr. Big.           315 00:20:33,398 --> 00:20:35,768         You know, the man            who really organizes it.     316 00:20:35,834 --> 00:20:40,044    That's... That's a bit of a    rarity catching such a person.  317 00:20:40,105 --> 00:20:44,835   Most of the people before the     courts are small-time users   318 00:20:44,910 --> 00:20:48,210      and small-time dealers.     319 00:20:49,348 --> 00:20:51,818    And the people that come in            from overseas,          320 00:20:51,883 --> 00:20:54,723   carrying quantities of drugs               on them.             321 00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:14,340    - Prison is another planet.   322 00:21:15,474 --> 00:21:17,844    The first thing you realize       when you go into a prison    323 00:21:17,909 --> 00:21:20,179 is that when you're past that...             (buzzing)            324 00:21:20,245 --> 00:21:23,675    And the door opens, clang,            and you walk in,         325 00:21:23,749 --> 00:21:26,689        it's the prisoners               who run the prison.       326 00:21:38,497 --> 00:21:42,297    - I would've paid millions               to be free.           327 00:21:42,367 --> 00:21:44,167        I just wanted out.        328 00:21:44,236 --> 00:21:46,196      I wanted to do whatever          I want whenever I want.     329 00:21:46,271 --> 00:21:48,671       Not to have to put it             on a request form,        330 00:21:48,740 --> 00:21:50,810   to ask permission to breathe,              you know?            331 00:21:56,515 --> 00:21:59,445      - It's military, like,       you wake up when they want you             to wake up,           332 00:21:59,518 --> 00:22:02,488    you are locked in your cell            for many hours.         333 00:22:02,554 --> 00:22:05,794 All you hear is metal tapping... 334 00:22:06,458 --> 00:22:09,388       Girls that are upset.      335 00:22:09,461 --> 00:22:12,231      - Prison is definitely               no summer camp.         336 00:22:12,297 --> 00:22:14,667       It's pretty intense,       337 00:22:14,733 --> 00:22:16,373   especially in the beginning.   338 00:22:16,435 --> 00:22:20,265  You don't really know the rules         and how it works.        339 00:22:21,606 --> 00:22:23,706         At the beginning,            you don't have anything,     340 00:22:23,775 --> 00:22:25,335       you don't have money.      341 00:22:25,410 --> 00:22:27,350     I remember the first cell          that they put me in,       342 00:22:27,412 --> 00:22:29,352         it had a camera,         343 00:22:29,414 --> 00:22:32,354   and there was no television,        I had no paper and pen,     344 00:22:32,417 --> 00:22:36,357   so you're just sitting there    with nothing but your thoughts. 345 00:22:37,856 --> 00:22:40,256       With a heroin addict             who was just shaking       346 00:22:40,325 --> 00:22:43,425   because her legs hurt because     she's in need of her dose.    347 00:22:43,495 --> 00:22:46,425     And it's a reality check.    348 00:22:46,498 --> 00:22:49,598    You realize, I'm in another          country in prison.        349 00:22:49,668 --> 00:22:51,838        This is messed up.        350 00:22:57,376 --> 00:23:02,106  The first summer, because I got  arrested at the end of August,  351 00:23:02,180 --> 00:23:06,420      so their summer is end                of the year.           352 00:23:06,485 --> 00:23:10,385       It's like, you know,            when you open an over,      353 00:23:10,455 --> 00:23:12,485        you feel the heat?        354 00:23:13,425 --> 00:23:16,955     That's what summer's like              in Australia.          355 00:23:17,028 --> 00:23:18,958           It's so hot.           356 00:23:19,030 --> 00:23:21,470  It goes up to like 48 degrees.  357 00:23:22,467 --> 00:23:24,367          That's insane,          358 00:23:24,436 --> 00:23:28,566  insanely hot to be in a prison      with no air conditioning.    359 00:23:29,207 --> 00:23:31,207         I'm telling you.         360 00:23:38,617 --> 00:23:40,817      I lost a lot of people.     361 00:23:41,653 --> 00:23:46,193    People that I thought were      my friends, my ride-or-die...  362 00:23:46,258 --> 00:23:49,088  Some people just took the door  363 00:23:49,161 --> 00:23:51,601 and I didn't fight to keep them. 364 00:23:53,298 --> 00:23:56,398      - You realize everybody          doesn't love you and...     365 00:23:56,468 --> 00:23:58,468       And the world will do           just fine without you.      366 00:23:58,537 --> 00:24:01,237   I think it's a pretty lonely               feeling.             367 00:24:05,343 --> 00:24:07,513        - Alex, he was sad.       368 00:24:07,579 --> 00:24:10,679  I mean, he knew what I was in,         he lived it, so...        369 00:24:10,749 --> 00:24:12,779     I think he really wanted                 to help.             370 00:24:14,419 --> 00:24:18,659       - He would contact us               to let us know                 what was going on.        371 00:24:18,723 --> 00:24:21,963        I think he sent her               what she needed.         372 00:24:22,027 --> 00:24:24,057        Clothing, whatever.       373 00:24:24,129 --> 00:24:26,159     - He was always answering             my phone calls,         374 00:24:26,231 --> 00:24:29,701   always trying to reassure me         and listening to me.       375 00:24:29,768 --> 00:24:31,768         He was sending me             a lot of money as well,     376 00:24:31,837 --> 00:24:33,167        like $600 a month.        377 00:24:33,238 --> 00:24:35,268    And I remember him saying,    378 00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:38,880   "I want you to be the biggest       baller of the prison."      379 00:24:40,245 --> 00:24:41,775             So sweet.            380 00:24:44,516 --> 00:24:47,846          I did 14 months             in the maximum security,     381 00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:51,159  and then when I got sentenced,              I got um,            382 00:24:51,223 --> 00:24:52,893           a re... class                      they say,            383 00:24:52,958 --> 00:24:55,458         and they sent me               to a working prison.       384 00:24:58,196 --> 00:25:01,826     - Emu Plains is a minimum            security prison.         385 00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:05,940  And basically any prisoner who   wanted to could just walk out.  386 00:25:07,105 --> 00:25:09,405      There wouldn't be much                to stop them.          387 00:25:09,474 --> 00:25:11,544        They don't have big              high-wired fences.        388 00:25:11,610 --> 00:25:14,310   They don't have armed guards       prowling around the place    389 00:25:14,379 --> 00:25:16,179      keeping an eye on them.                 (mooing)             390 00:25:16,248 --> 00:25:17,418     - I think someone escaped               from there            391 00:25:17,482 --> 00:25:19,422       by simply walking out                 of the door           392 00:25:19,484 --> 00:25:21,254    because there wasn't any...   393 00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:23,559     Like, there wasn't anyone             watching them.          394 00:25:23,622 --> 00:25:26,392  So I think to be in Emu Plains,          that just shows         395 00:25:26,458 --> 00:25:29,258 they judged that she didn't pose         any risk at all.         396 00:25:56,655 --> 00:25:58,485               (♪♪)               397 00:26:22,547 --> 00:26:24,517           - Some days,               she was more handling it.    398 00:26:24,583 --> 00:26:27,593           And some days                she was just crushed.      399 00:26:28,887 --> 00:26:33,587       But most of the time,        I was amazed at how positive              she stayed.           400 00:26:41,333 --> 00:26:45,343  - Letters and photos and cards    is always something you look   forward to at the end of the day 401 00:26:45,403 --> 00:26:47,013   when you come back from work,  402 00:26:47,072 --> 00:26:49,412      I'd always go and ask,              "Do I have mail?"        403 00:26:49,474 --> 00:26:51,544          And you read it                 and it's just uh,        404 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:55,080      a little more time that        you spend with your family              and friends,           405 00:26:55,146 --> 00:26:57,416    and it was always something    that you would look forward to  406 00:26:57,482 --> 00:26:59,152      at the end of the day.      407 00:26:59,217 --> 00:27:02,087       Keeping in touch with       the outside world a little bit. 408 00:27:06,791 --> 00:27:09,291           (soft music)           409 00:27:47,065 --> 00:27:48,965               (♪♪)               410 00:29:10,248 --> 00:29:13,248        - Yeah, he left me.                  (laughing)            411 00:29:13,318 --> 00:29:16,218  He left me for a hotter chick!  412 00:29:16,287 --> 00:29:18,057      No, just kidding. Um...     413 00:29:18,123 --> 00:29:22,293   You know, it's life, no hard        feelings. I understand.     414 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,030        It's behind me now.                     Hmm.               415 00:29:26,831 --> 00:29:29,171  I wasn't ready, he chose that.  416 00:29:30,335 --> 00:29:32,335    He needed to live his life    417 00:29:32,403 --> 00:29:34,943            and I think                it was hurting him too.     418 00:29:35,006 --> 00:29:39,006  But I wish that he'd just told       me that instead of just     419 00:29:39,077 --> 00:29:42,347 stop answering and stop writing. 420 00:29:42,413 --> 00:29:45,183   It was really painful for me.  421 00:29:45,250 --> 00:29:47,890     I felt like I was losing              my best friend.         422 00:30:11,543 --> 00:30:16,113        - I wanted to work         because it makes your time fly            so much more.          423 00:30:17,615 --> 00:30:21,985  Once you have, I think it's two    years after your sentence,    424 00:30:22,053 --> 00:30:24,863      you can apply and write           to the commissioner,       425 00:30:24,923 --> 00:30:29,133  and you can ask to be accepted  426 00:30:29,194 --> 00:30:31,634         on what's called             a work's release program,    427 00:30:31,696 --> 00:30:36,566     where they allow inmates           to go outside to work      428 00:30:36,634 --> 00:30:38,944     and reintegrate society.     429 00:30:48,580 --> 00:30:51,580  - Yeah, I got an interview and   I got hired in a garage there.  430 00:30:51,649 --> 00:30:53,179               (♪♪)               431 00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:56,819       It was called Rigoli.      432 00:30:56,888 --> 00:31:00,828      And it was in Kirrawee,          which is in Sutherland,     433 00:31:00,892 --> 00:31:03,702         it was very far.             I used to take the train.    434 00:31:03,761 --> 00:31:07,631    It was like a two-hour ride                to go.              435 00:31:07,699 --> 00:31:11,739 So yeah, I would wake up at 4:30   to take the train a 5, 5:10.   436 00:31:11,803 --> 00:31:15,973        I would start at 8.            So it was a long ride.      437 00:31:17,809 --> 00:31:19,809       - It's not just given                 to anybody.           438 00:31:19,878 --> 00:31:22,708     The jailees have to prove               themselves.           439 00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:28,150     And we employed Isabelle             and other people               through the program.       440 00:31:29,954 --> 00:31:32,964      - It was a garage where         the people get accidents     441 00:31:33,024 --> 00:31:34,664  and they make insurance claims  442 00:31:34,726 --> 00:31:36,896         and I got to like               answer phone calls,       443 00:31:36,961 --> 00:31:39,401       and it was so hectic,           super busy, I remember.     444 00:31:39,464 --> 00:31:43,304     And I wasn't used to this           anymore, real life.       445 00:31:43,368 --> 00:31:44,768            Crazy life.           446 00:31:44,836 --> 00:31:46,906         Phone is ringing,               people are calling,       447 00:31:46,971 --> 00:31:49,271         people are upset,           I'm like, using a computer,   448 00:31:49,340 --> 00:31:51,840     I haven't used a computer          for like three years,      449 00:31:51,910 --> 00:31:53,750       and I was so nervous.      450 00:31:54,979 --> 00:31:57,649       - She was a pleasure,           she always was smiling,     451 00:31:57,715 --> 00:32:00,485         she was always...              She was going through                a rough time,          452 00:32:00,551 --> 00:32:03,321       but she always tried,             she never gave up.        453 00:32:16,367 --> 00:32:19,497      - There's confirmation              that Coronavirus              has reached Australia.      454 00:32:19,570 --> 00:32:22,340  - The number of infected people      on the Diamond Princess     455 00:32:22,407 --> 00:32:24,007      has tripled overnight.      456 00:32:24,075 --> 00:32:27,945    - The world will soon enter           a pandemic phase                of the Coronavirus.       457 00:32:28,846 --> 00:32:31,716      - Covid changed my life     458 00:32:31,783 --> 00:32:33,893  and the fact that I wasn't able         to go out working        459 00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:37,622   and it sucked because it was   such a great opportunity for me. 460 00:32:37,689 --> 00:32:40,219  You know, one morning they just     said, "You're not going."    461 00:32:42,593 --> 00:32:45,763   - So it was very restrictive              in terms of           462 00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:47,930    how outside people interact           with the prison,         463 00:32:47,999 --> 00:32:50,029    how the prisoners interact            with each other.         464 00:32:53,071 --> 00:32:57,211    - The jail would not accept             any visitors.          465 00:32:57,275 --> 00:33:01,345   But they invested in tablets   466 00:33:01,412 --> 00:33:04,052   and we could have Zoom visits          with our family.         467 00:33:04,115 --> 00:33:07,085     And it would also include          people from overseas.      468 00:33:13,424 --> 00:33:17,164  - I was able to have two visits          during the week               if I wasn't working,       469 00:33:17,228 --> 00:33:19,898    but it was good to be able     to see my family face to face,  470 00:33:19,964 --> 00:33:22,004    and everybody's changing...   471 00:33:22,066 --> 00:33:23,996   It was just good to see them.  472 00:33:25,036 --> 00:33:27,666           (soft music)           473 00:33:27,739 --> 00:33:29,869       It was the pandemic,       474 00:33:29,941 --> 00:33:31,811         so I didn't meet                 the parole board         475 00:33:31,876 --> 00:33:34,206         or parole officer               but she called me.        476 00:33:34,278 --> 00:33:37,578   And started asking questions              and stuff,            477 00:33:37,648 --> 00:33:39,748      and it's getting real,                  you know?            478 00:33:39,817 --> 00:33:41,787     It was, I think it was...    479 00:33:41,853 --> 00:33:44,323          maybe 10 months          before my release or something. 480 00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:46,489       And then I was like,                   you know,            481 00:33:46,557 --> 00:33:47,887         maybe they're not                gonna release me,        482 00:33:47,959 --> 00:33:49,589          because that's                my non-parole period,      483 00:33:49,660 --> 00:33:52,730   I'm like, maybe they're gonna      say, "No, you're staying          another year" you know?     484 00:33:52,797 --> 00:33:55,827   I was ready for this, 'cause        that was a possibility.     485 00:33:56,834 --> 00:33:59,204             So yeah,                 I just didn't believe it.    486 00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:01,308         But it happened.         487 00:34:09,514 --> 00:34:11,584        - When she told me,                I was ecstatic.         488 00:34:11,649 --> 00:34:13,519       I lost my-- I was...                 (indistinct)           489 00:34:23,795 --> 00:34:27,365    - International travellers       return to a lot of changes             at the airport.         490 00:34:27,432 --> 00:34:30,842   After a Covid test, they have  to go to a hotel for three days. 491 00:34:30,902 --> 00:34:32,802      And no one's very happy                 about it.            492 00:34:32,870 --> 00:34:36,370    - So, I guess for her, that    would've been almost like going       into another prison,       493 00:34:36,441 --> 00:34:41,051     but one that was slightly         more luxurious I guess.     494 00:34:42,113 --> 00:34:44,483        - It was like $900                 for three days.         495 00:34:44,549 --> 00:34:46,579         With gross food.         496 00:34:46,651 --> 00:34:50,151     And it was freezing cold,    you know like, 27th of February, 497 00:34:50,221 --> 00:34:52,521    it was like the first time      in years that I'd seen snow.   498 00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:54,360        And I was freezing.       499 00:34:54,425 --> 00:34:58,495    But yeah, I was just happy          to be in my country.       500 00:34:58,563 --> 00:35:00,363               (♪♪)               501 00:35:01,766 --> 00:35:04,036           (soft music)           502 00:35:41,806 --> 00:35:44,676     - I could just get home,            chill a little bit,       503 00:35:44,742 --> 00:35:46,512        breathe and just...       504 00:35:46,577 --> 00:35:49,047  take time to think what I wanna       do without the stress      505 00:35:49,113 --> 00:35:51,653  of going to work straight away,             you know?            506 00:36:21,212 --> 00:36:24,952   - I don't know what makes him     think that I will come back          with him, I mean...       507 00:36:25,016 --> 00:36:27,886      I felt hurt, I felt...      508 00:36:27,952 --> 00:36:30,492  Why can't you be there for me?  509 00:36:30,555 --> 00:36:33,215     And now you want me back?               No, sorry,            510 00:36:33,291 --> 00:36:35,991      I can't go back. So...      511 00:36:48,606 --> 00:36:53,206    - He's my friend, he's been     there at the very worst time              of my life,           512 00:36:53,277 --> 00:36:55,707  but yeah, I just can't go back          to my past life,         513 00:36:55,780 --> 00:36:58,080   I gotta leave my past behind             and move on.           514 00:36:58,149 --> 00:37:00,989           (soft music)           515 00:37:09,126 --> 00:37:12,226         (birds chirping)         516 00:37:23,975 --> 00:37:26,035    I feel a lot of judgement,    517 00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:30,550    I feel a lot of whispering             and curiosity.          518 00:37:31,749 --> 00:37:33,249       Yeah, I can feel it.       519 00:37:34,952 --> 00:37:36,452      It's destroyed my life      520 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,860     and those around me were         pretty affected by this.     521 00:37:42,326 --> 00:37:47,266        Job-wise and to get            an apartment as well...     522 00:37:48,299 --> 00:37:51,069   I was aware that it would be            another fight.          523 00:37:51,135 --> 00:37:56,165         But I didn't know           that it would be this hard.   524 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:59,210      I opened a bank account        and they did some research               afterward,            525 00:37:59,277 --> 00:38:01,147        and they closed it.       526 00:38:01,212 --> 00:38:04,222          They said that               the risk was too high,      527 00:38:04,282 --> 00:38:09,092     because I was taking part          in criminal activity.      528 00:38:09,153 --> 00:38:11,663         Yeah, true story.        529 00:38:11,722 --> 00:38:14,432   I'm not gonna say which bank,               but uh,             530 00:38:14,492 --> 00:38:16,862     it's pretty frustrating.     531 00:38:18,429 --> 00:38:21,469    I'm not saying I'm not done          paying what I did,        532 00:38:21,532 --> 00:38:23,772    it's a very serious crime.    533 00:38:25,436 --> 00:38:31,036  But it sucks because I'm trying      to get back on my feet      534 00:38:31,108 --> 00:38:34,648    and move on from this story   535 00:38:34,712 --> 00:38:37,822   and people are closing doors       in my face because of...     536 00:38:38,683 --> 00:38:42,053        the media attention           that the whole case got.     537 00:38:45,489 --> 00:38:47,219     - Yeah, I mean it's just     538 00:38:47,291 --> 00:38:53,001     the natural consequences        of committing a crime, one,   539 00:38:53,064 --> 00:38:57,904   and the natural consequences           in direct effect         540 00:38:57,968 --> 00:39:01,138  of being reported in the media. 541 00:39:04,275 --> 00:39:06,905  - The crime and the punishment            tend to fit,           542 00:39:06,977 --> 00:39:09,447       most of time there's           a high correlation there.    543 00:39:09,513 --> 00:39:11,983      And yes, we write about        the times that they're not               correlated,           544 00:39:12,049 --> 00:39:14,119    and that's what makes good         narratives and stories.     545 00:39:14,185 --> 00:39:17,185       But most of the time,                 those fit.            546 00:39:18,022 --> 00:39:20,792  You know, we all make mistakes         in life, all of us.       547 00:39:20,858 --> 00:39:24,358      The only difference is       some of us pay a different cost           than others.           548 00:39:25,196 --> 00:39:27,296  My biggest issue with that was, 549 00:39:27,365 --> 00:39:29,495  once she comes back to Montreal            or Canada,            550 00:39:29,567 --> 00:39:31,767   which I knew would be the day      after she got her parole,    551 00:39:31,836 --> 00:39:34,206   'cause Australia wasn't gonna           keep her there,         552 00:39:34,271 --> 00:39:37,711       it was... what next?                    Right?              553 00:39:37,775 --> 00:39:41,975   And that's almost as daunting  as the time served incarcerated. 554 00:39:42,046 --> 00:39:45,376   Now, you Google my name when     I'm just trying to get a job   555 00:39:45,449 --> 00:39:48,289      after I paid the price,     556 00:39:48,352 --> 00:39:50,292        how long do you pay                the price for?          557 00:39:53,424 --> 00:39:55,994          These are large               existential questions      558 00:39:56,060 --> 00:39:59,660  that I don't believe lawmakers  and the criminal justice systems 559 00:39:59,730 --> 00:40:01,570      ever take into account.     560 00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:05,140  - She's not just what she did.  561 00:40:06,404 --> 00:40:10,244     You know, when one person          tells you or you hear      562 00:40:10,307 --> 00:40:13,037   of one person judging you...   563 00:40:14,478 --> 00:40:16,948      Can you imagine having               30,000 people,          564 00:40:17,014 --> 00:40:19,524  300,000 people judging you now? 565 00:40:22,019 --> 00:40:24,189          Try it at home.         566 00:40:26,056 --> 00:40:28,726               (♪♪)               567 00:41:17,641 --> 00:41:20,951     - It was doomed for fire            from the beginning.       568 00:41:21,011 --> 00:41:24,011    And I'm sure she's learned            a lot of lessons.        569 00:41:24,081 --> 00:41:27,321  And it's a shame they had to go  through what they went through. 570 00:41:29,019 --> 00:41:30,789             You know.            571 00:41:30,855 --> 00:41:34,385   At the end of the day, to me,   in my eyes, they're still kids. 572 00:41:34,458 --> 00:41:35,828              - Yeah.             573 00:41:35,893 --> 00:41:37,963  - Uh, and they're not bad kids,        they're good kids.        574 00:41:38,929 --> 00:41:39,829             You know.            575 00:41:39,897 --> 00:41:41,997           But they did                   the wrong thing.         576 00:41:42,833 --> 00:41:47,003  Yeah. Anyhow, that's how it is. 577 00:41:47,071 --> 00:41:49,641          (bright music)          578 00:41:50,908 --> 00:41:54,608      - This story changed me           completely actually.       579 00:41:54,678 --> 00:41:57,478 I mean, I don't know who I would   be today or where I would be   580 00:41:57,548 --> 00:41:59,948      if I didn't get caught,                 you know?            581 00:42:00,017 --> 00:42:03,087     I would probably be a big      asshole with a lot of money.   582 00:42:03,153 --> 00:42:05,963      Probably end up in Asia                somewhere.            583 00:42:06,023 --> 00:42:09,263      You know, executed, so,     584 00:42:09,326 --> 00:42:13,496    I got caught in a beautiful      country with great values.    585 00:42:13,564 --> 00:42:16,034    And good prison conditions.   586 00:42:17,334 --> 00:42:21,114         And it changed me                  for the best.          587 00:42:24,041 --> 00:42:27,281   This lifestyle is behind me,     I just want peace and quiet.   588 00:42:28,279 --> 00:42:31,579     I just want to buy myself                 a house             589 00:42:31,649 --> 00:42:34,819        and lock myself in              and just have peace.       590 00:42:34,885 --> 00:42:36,845     I just wanna have peace.     591 00:42:36,921 --> 00:42:39,591       But um, yeah, just...      592 00:42:39,657 --> 00:42:41,987           Normal life.           593 00:42:43,060 --> 00:42:45,500     Friends, family, travel.     594 00:42:45,563 --> 00:42:48,573  And no luggage full of cocaine,              just...             595 00:42:50,601 --> 00:42:52,841     Just peace of mind. Hmm.     596 00:42:52,903 --> 00:42:52,943               (♪♪)               597 00:43:08,218 --> 00:43:09,848        Subtitling: difuze        70926

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