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SARA: 99.999 percent of Hollywood

is a window display.

It is a facade.

And every time a story like that breaks,

we think, oh, my God.

How could this guy have had these problems?

The brutality and gruesomeness of this murder scene

definitely stand out.

definitely stand out.

I still remember my heart pounding,

like I couldn't breathe.

SHAUNTAÉ: When you come in contact with A-list celebrities,

jealousy kicks in.

We have two murders,

and they are eerily similar.

If it is even a coincidence, I'm not sure.

And this was done for the fame.

And this was done for the fame.

[camera shutters clicking]

STEPHANIE: It was around 4 p.m.

I just remember a gentleman coming in, he was very calm.

He had on a black baseball cap, a black T-shirt,

black track pants that had, like, a lime green stripe down

black track pants that had, like, a lime green stripe down

the side, and black tennis shoes.

I just remember, because it was, like, very put together.

He smelled of -- I wanna say aftershave.

So he was dressed really nice,

like, everything was coordinated,

and he smelled fresh.

One of my other coworkers at the time had told me

that he was part of a boy band previously.

And this gentleman stepped up to my window.

I asked him what he needed,

I asked him what he needed,

and at that point, that's when it clicked for

me that this was something out of the norm.

GLENDA: We call it Wacko.

Because there's a lot of wacks that come from Waco.

I met Catherine in August of 2007.

I met Catherine in August of 2007.

In college, she introduced herself to me, she's like,

"My name is Catherine," but she went by Diamond,

so that's what I called her.

Her nickname was Diamond,

and Diamond is the type of person that you're gonna

see her, you're gonna notice her, she's gonna shine.

She's gonna make her presence known.

She studied advertising design and print,

but she made it known, "I'm a model."

but she made it known, "I'm a model."

[camera shutter clicking]

She was petite enough to be a high fashion model.

She could wear anything, and it

would look good on her, you know?

And she rocked it to the fullest.

She really did. [laughs]

She did pageants, she did fashion shows,

she did photo shoots, anything that she can get her hands on.

I called her Team No Sleep.

She'd be on the computer all night looking for

her next shoot.

her next shoot.

She would go to bed just before the sun come up

and then go to class

and then come home and then get ready for her job at night.

Like, she was gonna do it by any means necessary.

She was a dancer,

and she would use her money to book her flights to her shoots,

[camera shutter clicking]

and then she'd come back to -- to school

and then she'd come back to -- to school

and go to class the next day.

She knew that that's what she wanted,

to be in the light.

Catherine's story resonated with me, because a large

majority of my own cases

are situations that have gone on behind closed doors.

Catherine Martinez is this stunning beauty who just

has this infectious drive,

but she's really banking on her appearance.

but she's really banking on her appearance.

So for someone like Catherine, at that age with those looks,

it's a perfect place to be,

to be working in a nightclub as a dancer

or to be in a bar or a restaurant,

the traditional places where these young

women would go to get discovered.

They want to meet that producer,

they want to meet the manager, or maybe even their future

husband who might be famous.

I was concerned for her dancing at the strip club.

It's a very rough industry already,

and her safety afterwards,

you know, walking and being outside by herself.

So I never wanted her to be there alone.

I'd pick her up while she was getting ready.

We were like best friends, more like sisters.

The sisterly bond.

The sisterly bond came...

I was going through a rough patch in my life, and, uh,

I didn't have nobody to talk to,

and I had nowhere to go.

She gave us somewhere to live.

She said, "You and your son,

"you come with me, and y'all just stay at my house until you

get it together."

I said, "Okay, are you sure?"

She said, "Yeah."

She said, "Yeah."

And she gave us the bed.

She slept on the floor.

She gave us food.

Cathy was like this... [laughs]

you know that birthday candle that you

try to blow out, and it won't go out?

You know, you blow it out, and it'd light back up,

and you try to blow it out, and it'd light back up again.

That's -- that's how she was to me.

That's -- that's how she was to me.

You know, she'd never let you down.

She never let you down.

She gave you 110 percent.

GLENDA: Back in 2008, when Catherine was working

at the club at night, she met Russell Neal.

He would come and watch her dance a couple nights a week,

and then he asked her out on a date.

Catherine and Russell started dating within the first three

Catherine and Russell started dating within the first three

or four months that she started working at the club.

Russell would do the whole romantic thing, take her out to

restaurants, he had a brand-new Lincoln at the time,

so, you know, he would drive her around

in the brand-new Lincoln.

SARA: Russell was a music producer when he met Catherine,

but Russell Neal was part of the band Hi-Five,

you know, the '90s boy band, one of the many.

Now here's a group, Hi-Five, that not only just

reaches platinum,

but they're reaching the pinnacle of being noticed.

From the early '90s, Hi-Five became a huge success,

and part of their success was that they were able to ride

the crest of a number-one record not once,

not twice, but three different times on the all-important

pop charts.

I was like...

you go girl, you know?

I'm -- I'm happy if you're happy.

I'm -- I'm happy if you're happy.

"The Kissing Game" is one of the top songs.

Everybody loved that song.

One of my favorite movies was "Sister Act," and there was

a song on the soundtrack that I just could not stop playing.

♪ And I never should have let you go ♪

♪ Oh, yeah ♪

And it was Hi-Five, and I was like,

oh, I love this song. Yeah.

TYRONE: What made Hi-Five unique was not

just their dance moves, but their harmony, as well.

Russell Neal was one of the good-looking people of

the group, and the girls kind of swooned around him.

the group, and the girls kind of swooned around him.

They were ahead of Patti LaBelle.

They were ahead of Deborah Cox.

They were ahead of Ice Cube.

They were even ahead of Salt-N-Pepa.

That tells you just how big this group was.

But unfortunately,

there become stories, and not good ones.

Toriano Easley served time in prison for

Toriano Easley served time in prison for

an unfortunate incident where someone was killed.

And it just started unraveling as an unfortunate amount

of events led to almost the demise of this group.

SARA: Roderick "Pooh" Clark had a car accident

and was paralyzed and then later died.

Tony Thompson inhaled freon and died because of that.

Another band member drowned in Israel when

he went to save his niece from drowning.

How much more could a group

How much more could a group

go through that had so much promise?

It just seemed as though this

group just couldn't catch a break.

GLENDA: When I first met Russell,

he seemed like an older guy,

but I didn't realize that he was so much older than her.

She was 18 years old, and he was in his 30s.

I didn't really get a good vibe from him.

I didn't really get a good vibe from him.

To my knowledge, Russell did not have a job.

He was living off of royalties, and also, he did

a lot of stock market type things.

And then Catherine had a car accident with

his Lincoln very early on in the relationship.

[tires squealing, crashing noises]

[distant sirens wailing]

The car flipped about three times

and then slammed into a tree.

He's running outside, and he's like, "My car, my car,"

and I'm like, "My sister."

What do you think is more important,

your car or my sister?

They had to airlift her to the hospital,

and then once she got out the hospital,

she's like, "He's so pissed about the car,"

and it's like, okay, he's pissed about the car,

and it's like, okay, he's pissed about the car,

but you could have lost your life.

After she totaled his Lincoln,

she felt like she needed to repay that debt.

And so she started paying a lot

of everything that they did -- their living situation,

it was coming out of Catherine's pocket.

I kind of was like, um, I really don't like this guy.

SARA: Russell was like a great catch.

SARA: Russell was like a great catch.

He seems like this perfect guy on the outside

and maybe even on the inside,

but there's really something

deeply disturbing about Russell's family.

So Catherine and Russell moved in about after five months of

dating, and then shortly after,

about a month or two after, she ended up getting pregnant

with her eldest son.

She was very nervous -- as a child

growing up in a single-parent household,

she wanted to make sure that whatever child she brought into

this world had both mom and dad growing up.

this world had both mom and dad growing up.

She ended up dropping out of college, because she wanted to

focus more on being a mom,

and they had two sons about a year and a half apart

from each other.

There's something going on with Russell's family.

So Ronald Neal is Russell Neal's brother, and he meets

a beautiful woman, she's 29 years old,

her last name's Magee, and they get married,

her last name's Magee, and they get married,

and they have children,

and this relationship very quickly went bad.

In fact, Ronald once was arrested for assault on Magee.

He would lock her up in a closet.

He would beat her up with a belt and a belt buckle.

It was very much overt domestic violence.

At some point, Magee finally had the courage to leave

At some point, Magee finally had the courage to leave

the relationship, and on that

same day where she filed for divorce,

Ronald brutally attacked her and shot her five times in

front of their child, a 10-year-old boy.

[distant radio chatter]

[distant sirens]

At that point, I'm like, something's not right

with that family.

You know, I thought that was insane.

I thought that was scary.

My heart broke for their boy.

And to hear what was going on,

I cried for him.

I did, you know, because he's begging for help, you know?

And all he could do was hear his mom scream.

Why would you do that?

Just leave. Just leave.

You don't have to go to the extreme -- for what?

You don't have to go to the extreme -- for what?

Ronald pled guilty to first-degree murder.

He's sentenced to 80 years in prison,

which is pretty much the rest of his life, and in fact,

he's not eligible for parole until

he serves at least 30 years of that.

GLENDA: That history did alarm our family.

We had kept telling Catherine to leave Russell alone several

times, but, you know,

she was really tied on to the fact that she wanted to make

she was really tied on to the fact that she wanted to make

sure her boys were raised with a father in their lives.

Catherine was impressed with the possibility that

he was going to be a successful producer.

But Russell was definitely posing as this rich guy

who just had it all

and was manipulating and lying to Catherine

when they first met.

TYRONE: Russell Neal left the group in the mid-90s.

He was having a problem with the money

that he wasn't obtaining from this group

and believed that he deserved more than he was getting.

And instead of somehow trying to find

a way to make it work or make it right,

he decided to walk.

On the video, "She's Playing Hard to Get,"

Russell Neal wasn't there.

He actually went on strike.

At one point, he refused to tour

At one point, he refused to tour

until they sat down to renegotiate the terms.

And unfortunately, that was probably one

of the worst mistakes he ever made.

And instead of being a quintet,

they became a quartet.

And this actually worked out fine.

I never saw Russell Neal do anything

more than what he did for Hi-Five.

I never heard anything on the radio,

never knew of anything in which he produced.

Never knew that he was associated

with any other groups at that point.

I never saw him do anything more than what he did

at the apex of his career with Hi-Five.

SHAUNTAÉ: When you come from a group like Hi-Five,

and you've performed at Apollos and they're in

big stages,

and you come in contact with A-list celebrities,

and then you find that times are changing,

if you're going broke,

jealousy kicks in.

Me and Catherine, we did lose contact for a little while.

Me and Catherine, we did lose contact for a little while.

And the last time I had saw her,

she was sitting outside my job,

and she looked like she hadn't slept in days.

Days.

And I walked up to her,

and I said, "Are you okay?"

And she just stared, like she can hear me, but she was just

staring into mid-space, and I'm like, "Diamond,

can you hear me?"

She said, "I'll be fine."

She was the kind of person that

She was the kind of person that

she tried to keep her problems to herself.

She didn't want to put that kind of energy on anyone else.

And I'm like, "How are things with you?"

And she's like...

[distant shouting]

"I'm just tired of fighting."

That's what she would say. She's like,

"I'm just tired of fighting."

She's all like, you know, "I don't want to get into that,

but I'm just tired of fighting."

You know, she'd change the subject quick.

[distant shouting]

I would look at her, read her body language,

you know, she wasn't happy.

you know, she wasn't happy.

She wasn't happy, you know, in her love life.

You know, I guess, with him,

and or whatever personal that was going on.

I'm like, well, you know, I'm here if you need me,

and we parted ways again.

She came home one day with makeup on

her eye, and she was a beautiful girl.

She didn't need to wear makeup, and she hardly ever

wore makeup.

So it was really shocking to see her with foundation

So it was really shocking to see her with foundation

on her eye, and we knew something was going on.

We started seeing Catherine covering up bruises.

Catherine would try to hide the fights at first,

and she came to stay with us for a while.

SARA: The unfortunate part is that all of this was kept

very, very behind closed doors.

Sometimes it starts with just a loud voice,

then it gets to some slapping,

then it gets to some brutalizing,

and then it's too late.

You know, Hollywood is smoke and mirrors,

and Russell Neal,

as it turned out, is smoke and mirrors.

So Catherine and Russell dated for about five years

on and off.

They broke up about three times in the five years.

They decided to finally separate back in 2013.

I think that Russell was manipulating

and lying to Catherine when they first met.

I think that he was trying to pose as someone

I think that he was trying to pose as someone

that he wasn't just to kind of reel her in.

And Catherine eventually caught on and was just like,

I don't want to be a part of your fall.

I want to rise up, and I'm not

gonna let you bring me down with you.

The case definitely affected me.

The case definitely affected me.

It was very unique.

Russell Neal is somewhat famous,

but that was way back in the early '90s.

They kind of fell off, and he really didn't have much success

after that, and fast forward

about 23 years, and at that point,

he was about 40 years old.

Their relationship was falling apart.

She had moved on and was living

the next stage of her life.

Was kind of a shooting star, and she was

kind of on to new and bigger and better things.

GLENDA: 2013 was a big year, because that's the year

that she finally decided to say, "Hey,

"it's over between me and you, and I am going

to do my own thing."

SARA: Catherine really focused on her career and motherhood,

and that infectious drive had

propelled her into continuing her modeling career,

fitness training, bodybuilding, you know, she won

fitness training, bodybuilding, you know, she won

a couple of championships, and she was training to be a boxer.

SHAUNTAÉ: Her goal was to be a star.

That's what she wanted and followed that, you know?

[camera shutter clicking]

Her star was getting brighter.

So their custody thing is, she had the boys 100 percent of

the time -- he would just come over

and watch the boys as a babysitter

and watch the boys as a babysitter

that got paid whenever she needed

to spend extra hours at the gym.

I was really upset -- I could not even imagine,

like, if my husband would say that I need to pay him to watch

our own kids, he probably wouldn't be a husband anymore.

So they lived in a condo on the west side of town

So they lived in a condo on the west side of town

in Houston with their two boys.

But ultimately, I think that Russell was on his way out

or Catherine was going to be leaving

with the children, because he was spending time

away from that residence, as well.

GLENDA: I saw Catherine on June the 30th.

She had came to Killeen.

She was going to one of the clubs to promote

her modeling shoot,

and so they were both at my mom's house,

and so they were both at my mom's house,

and she was goofing around and playing.

It was very relieving to see Catherine so happy.

She had her spunk back.

She had, you know, her little spark that she's always had,

and it was nice to see her so happy.

It was kind of like the sister that I always looked

up to, that I always needed to be like her, was back,

and then Catherine had to drive down to Houston.

Let me just, like, paint the picture to what our booking

area looks like -- when you first walk into it,

it looks like when you walk into a bank.

It's set up like tellers.

So I just called next to window three,

and this gentleman stepped up to my window.

I asked him what he needed, and he just said,

"I got into a fight last night with my wife.

"She is now deceased.

I'm here to turn myself in."

So in the 15 years at that time that I had been

doing this,

it threw me for a loop for a little bit.

It's just not part of the norm.

And it's at that point that I noticed he also smelled

really clean,

which is not the norm for most of the people.

Like, you could tell he smelled of...I wanna say,

like, aftershave.

like, aftershave.

So he was dressed really nice, like everything

was coordinated.

And so I just automatically asked him

for his name and date of birth.

He gave me Russell Neal.

So I asked him again, "Sir, what did you need?"

And he said, "I'm here to turn myself in.

"I got into a fight last night with my wife.

She's now deceased."

And so I called the city of Houston and was like,

"Hey, look, I believe there's gonna be

"Hey, look, I believe there's gonna be

"a body at this residence.

"Can you just send officers out to confirm there's a body

so we know that this is a legit thing."

What's going on? Why are you here?

Well, uh, my wife and I got into an altercation.

[indistinct]

And she's deceased.

I can give you the address.

And so police were operating and conducting their

investigation solely on that very simple few sentences,

but that did lead them to the apartment.

but that did lead them to the apartment.

That did lead them to discover her body.

He covered her with a sheet.

She had multiple blunt force injuries to

the back of her head and numerous stab wounds

centered on her back shoulder area,

along with a number of superficial injuries.

She had some defensive injuries on her forearms.

She had some defensive injuries on her forearms.

And it was very gory.

I've seen a lot of murder crime scenes,

and there was a lot of blood in this one.

The brutality and the gruesomeness of

this murder scene definitely stand out.

He left both murder weapons at the scene in the open.

One of the murder weapons was a tire jack,

duct tape both around a handle on the bottom part of

duct tape both around a handle on the bottom part of

the tire jack, as well as the end of it,

as well as a knife.

And the fact that Russell used two murder weapons told me that

this was calculated,

especially when you look at the tire jack,

which was duct taped around the handle.

[handcuffs clicking]

STEPHANIE: After we learned that, we handcuffed him,

read him his rights, and then escorted him back to

the sergeant's office.

My niece's grandmother called me on my cellphone,

My niece's grandmother called me on my cellphone,

and she's like,

"It's saying on the news that she's been murdered."

And then I still remember my heart just, like, pounding.

Like, I couldn't breathe.

And I was just like -- like, no.

Like, I just spoke to her -- like, that's not possible.

And she's like...

"It's Catherine," and I'm just like, "Yes, it's Catherine."

"It's Catherine," and I'm just like, "Yes, it's Catherine."

And she was one of the sweetest souls

that used to say,

you know, like, why not me? Like...

if I could switch roles with her, I would have...

in a heartbeat.

I just felt like she was an amazing mom

and just the soul that has left us

and just the soul that has left us

is hard to replace.

So if I could have traded places with her, I would have.

I knew that it was premeditated.

I knew that he planned it perfectly to

make sure that she didn't have a chance.

SHAUNTAÉ: And then on Facebook Messenger,

a mutual friend says, "You ain't hear?"

I said, "What are you talking about?"

He said, "Diamond dead."

I said, "No, she not. I just messaged her."

I said, "No, she not. I just messaged her."

He said, "It's all over TV."

I said, "You lying."

He said, "It's all over TV."

I broke down. I broke down.

I began to shake.

I began to cry.

You know, I just, I hit the floor, and I just screamed.

And all I could do was scream and cry and ask why, like,

And all I could do was scream and cry and ask why, like,

she wasn't ready.

She had so much to go, you know, so much to live for.

It just -- it still hurts.

It's more emotional for me, because

I didn't get a chance to really just thank her for

everything that she did for us,

because she did a lot of stuff that she did not have to do.

She really did.

The person that she was, the goofiness, the spontaneous,

The person that she was, the goofiness, the spontaneous,

the care that she had, the help that she --

I mean everything about her, anything.

She'd give you her last.

She'd help anybody, a complete stranger, you know.

It's -- it's missing the love that she had.

When the sheriff then realizes he's the primary suspect,

Russell, he invokes his Fifth Amendment,

he says he's not gonna answer any questions

and that he wants a lawyer.

and that he wants a lawyer.

And that's pretty much the fullness of my statement

until I'm able to speak with an attorney.

By virtue of just making that very short statement,

he placed himself at the crime scene.

We just don't know at what time.

GILBERT: So... all the evidence suggests

that she died in the early morning

hours of July 1, 2014,

but he didn't turn himself in until

but he didn't turn himself in until

the afternoon of July 2nd,

so by my calculations, she was dead in

the apartment for almost a day and a half.

When Catherine arrived home at around 5 o'clock in the morning,

the kids were there, and they were in their room.

They did wake up when they heard

what they thought was Russell

spanking Catherine and yelling at her.

[distant yelling]

At around 5:45, neighbors said they heard loud bangs,

like somebody was nailing something to the wall.

The kids were then shuffled through

the living room in the morning,

and Catherine was in very good shape when this happened.

But if you're being attacked by a grown man

who has a tire jack in his hand

and also possibly a knife at the same time,

she wasn't able to fend for herself long enough,

and the fact that two separate weapons

were used, presumably the tire jack

was used to strike her in the back of the head,

and then, at some point, he had the wherewithal to

switch weapons to the knife

and then begin to stab her in the back.

I think it shows that Russell, once he got started,

could not control himself, and the rage and the anger

that he was feeling when he was doing this,

he could not get it under control.

I've already killed her, but instead, he kept going

and going and going.

Nothing was wiped up.

The murder scene was left practically intact.

There was DNA testing,

and his DNA came back on a lot of things in the apartment.

There was never a question that somebody else

could have broken in and done this.

And he himself said he got into

an altercation with his wife, and she's now deceased.

GLENDA: And so we need to find the boys

and get the boys -- are the boys okay?

Like, were they hurt?

Because I know that if something happened

Because I know that if something happened

to Catherine, she would

have tried her hardest to protect her boys and make sure

that they were okay.

So as soon as the Houston Police Department learned about

the murder and sent somebody out,

it's determined that afterwards,

the kids were then shuffled through

the living room in the morning.

Meanwhile, Catherine's body was in

the living room under a blanket,

and he had the lights off as he shuffled them past.

So Russell took them to school.

That's kind of the question is,

how much did the boys know happened?

They knew that they heard something in the morning,

and when Russell came to the room right after it happened,

the eldest son noticed what he thought was ketchup on

Russell's shoulder.

And Russell told them, "Don't say anything."

It was really hard for us to know that both of the boys were

in the apartment

when the incident happened, because they were traumatized

from having to hear their mom scream for help.

The "who done it" was never really an issue.

The only two adults in

that apartment were Catherine and Russell.

So the biggest challenges that investigators had was

piecing together the motive.

piecing together the motive.

SARA: But here, we just don't know.

We just don't know what happened that day

that led Russell to brutally kill Catherine.

The idea that you could kill your wife,

walk into the police department or the sheriff's

station, and tell the half truth, which is a big lie.

Not that she's dead, but that she is injured and needs help.

Something doesn't add up with him.

There was such a stark contrast with

not only what he was saying,

not only what he was saying,

but how he looked and how he acted

with what he had just done.

I think his plan was very orchestrated.

He knew he was going to be turning himself in.

He knew that his image was going to be put out there into

the media, and I think he realized,

like, I need to get myself into the image

that I see in myself.

And so he prepared himself.

And so he prepared himself.

He used a straight edge razor to shave his head.

He color coordinated his outfit

with black from head to toe,

and black shoes with neon yellow accents,

and a very, I think, purposeful

message on his shirt -- it read "King."

I think he turned himself in for the fame.

I think he turned himself in for the fame.

He knew it was going to be on

the news, and he knew it was gonna blow up.

GILBERT: Russell appeared to be very fixated

on his image -- inside their apartment,

he had this little work station, and he had a pyramid of

quotes from various people,

like T.D. Jakes, Shaka Zulu.

He had this manifesto of what he wanted to become,

scribblings in a notebook, really.

In the next five years, he was going to become a billionaire.

In the next five years, he was going to become a billionaire.

He was gonna go to business school in New York, and he was

gonna take his Series 7 tests,

and he was gonna make all this money.

He had grand ideas of what he thought he could become,

even though there was no basis to support these pipe dreams.

SARA: There's really something deeply disturbing

about Russell Neal.

It goes to that example of how perfect his outside is

and how absolutely broken his inside is.

and how absolutely broken his inside is.

GILBERT: I think after they started to separate,

Catherine was living her best life.

She was experiencing more and more success, having more luck

with fitness, modeling, getting more opportunities.

So as their paths in life continued to separate,

I think Russell saw the writing on the wall.

She was dating this other guy, and I think Russell's life was

slipping away before his eyes.

And there's evidence he found out about

And there's evidence he found out about

this new relationship that Catherine was having.

There were texts that she received from this other guy.

Presumably, Russell discovered these text messages

and was waiting for her to come back,

and Russell confronted her as to what exactly happened.

And I think he took this anger that was

building in him for months out on her that night.

SARA: We have two brothers, Russell and Ronald,

and we have two murders,

and they are eerily similar.

Both of them commit these murders

in the presence of their children.

They both killed the mother of their children.

They were completely heartless in

the way that they acted afterwards.

the way that they acted afterwards.

Is it a genetic issue? Is it a nurture issue?

I don't -- I'm not sure.

But it's just a very, very sad coincidence.

Even though the evidence is overwhelming that

they're guilty, they want to go to trial.

A lot of times, people go to trial,

because there's always a chance

because there's always a chance

that the jury will find them not guilty or it's a hung jury.

Originally, he did want to go to trial.

But that was a bad gamble.

And it wasn't until his case was first on the docket,

set for trial, that I think

the reality of a plea deal was actually going

to happen.

At the last minute,

we were finally able to reach a deal.

Russell pled guilty to 40 years in prison,

Russell pled guilty to 40 years in prison,

and he waived his right to appeal.

And Catherine Martinez's family all agreed that it was

in the best interest of the case and the children

that this is the way the case would resolve itself.

SHAUNTAÉ: To me, it's a slap on the wrist.

You know, I feel like you really need to pay.

I'm happy that he's where he's at.

That is a sense of justice.

But as far as his sentencing, no, I don't feel --

But as far as his sentencing, no, I don't feel --

mnh-mnh, I feel like he should have got life.

I feel like he should be in

solitary confinement the rest of his life.

GLENDA: We feel like he should have gotten longer.

I really wish that...

he...

possibly just could have disappeared.

I wish he would have just took his own life.

I honestly -- I wish it would have been a murder-suicide.

I honestly -- I wish it would have been a murder-suicide.

SHAUNTAÉ: If I could say anything to Catherine...

I love you, girl.

And I thank you

for everything.

I appreciate you.

Why didn't you call me?

Your boys are beautiful.

They're smart.

They're strong.

I'll always love her.

[inhales, exhales heavily]

I'll always think of her.

I just miss her.

I just miss her.