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I, your host
of "independent lens."
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We keep electing officials
who are tough on crime,
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but is being tough
the same as being smart?
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For 40 years, America has waged
a war against illegal narcotics.
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The drug war has resulted
in our jailing more citizens
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than any other country
in the world.
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Yet drugs are cheaper and more
available than ever before.
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What went wrong?
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Man: Of the 2,600 people
I've sent to federal prison,
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I've seen 3 or 4 kingpins.
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We're incarcerating poor people
who are drug addicts.
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Tucci: Independent film director
Eugene jerecki
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gained unprecedented access to
dealers, cops, jailers, judges,
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and elected officials.
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He captured Americans
caught in a system
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that nearly everyone agrees
does more harm than good.
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The industry of incarceration
has become addicted
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to the drug war, profiting from
a steady diet of new prisoners.
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Every war has casualties.
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How do we protect
American citizens
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and our lauded system of justice
from becoming collateral damage?
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"The house I live in" next.
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Thank you.
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Man: My family came to America
fleeing persecution in Europe.
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For my mom's parents,
it was the pogroms of Russia
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in which thousands of Jews died.
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For my dad, it was Hitler,
the creation of ghettos
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and the final solution
that killed millions.
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As children,
my brothers and I were taught
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that we were the lucky ones
who made it out.
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But with that luck
came a responsibility.
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"Never again" didn't just mean
that people like us
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shouldn't suffer;
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It meant others
shouldn't suffer either.
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Going to join me here.
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Won't you be seated, please,
ladies and gentlemen.
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Come, on, doctor,
try to fit in.
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Mr. [indistinct]
Mr. [indistinct]
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Fine. All right.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I would
like to summarize for you
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the meeting that I have just had
with bipartisan leaders.
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America's public enemy number 1
in the United States
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is drug abuse.
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Uh, gold teeth,
big, in his 30s,
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and he wears, like,
a turban on his head.
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Louis and the crew.
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[Car alarm]
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[Indistinct radio transmission]
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Keep in mind that school is
going to let these students out
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in 15 minutes.
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Man: The discrepancy measures
the distance by and which
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we have not yet attained
democracy
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in these United States.
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Sure, we've got problems
over this nation.
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But never forget, there's
nothing wrong with America today
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that a good election won't cure.
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[Cheering]
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You go right up
Charles street, right?
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Go past the light.
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Ronald Reagan:
That's why I believe
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the tide of battle has turned
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and we're beginning to win the
crusade for a drug free America.
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Man: What shame that
we American people
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could so act and be
so nonunderstanding.
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[Indistinct radio transmission]
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Man: Ok, be alert, kid.
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Man: If he doesn't put you
in jail, wonderful.
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Nobody with any sense
likes to go to jail,
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but if he puts you in jail,
you go in that jail
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and transform it from a dungeon
of shame
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to a haven of freedom
and human dignity.
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[Cheering]
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Man: All of us must overcome
the crippling legacy
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of bigotry and injustice.
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Obama: Let all those who have
wondered if America's beacon
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still burns as bright,
tonight we've proved once more
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that the true spirit
of our nation
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comes from the enduring power
of our ideals...
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democracy, liberty, opportunity,
and unyielding hope.
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Woman: My name is nannie jeter.
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I was born in crewe, Virginia,
a very small town.
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Coming north,
I feel that I would prove
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that I was gonna
conquer everything
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that needed to be conquered.
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Narrator: Nannie jeter was like
a second mother to me.
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Though she started out
working for my family,
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she was never a nannie.
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Nannie is actually her name.
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Man: � ...Left in church
on Sunday morning �
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nannie: They just have
some of everything.
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[Man singing indistinctly]
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Tonight is a celebration night.
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Narrator:
Our families were close,
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and her children
and grandchildren
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were my playmates growing up.
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Hi, my precious! You hungry?
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But was we got older,
I saw many of them struggling
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with poverty, joblessness,
crime, and worse.
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Newscaster: President Obama
has an advantage,
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but it's still very, very early
in this night.
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Oh...
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Narrator: When I asked nannie
what she thought
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might have gone wrong,
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her answer was
surprisingly simple.
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Nannie: I think drugs.
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Drugs is the monster.
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The killing, the stealing,
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there's people being destroyed.
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It's devastating.
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What happened to my son
with drugs,
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I would love to change that.
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Man: Drugs in America.
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Pollsters have identified that
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as the number 1 issue
in this country.
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Woman: Taking drugs
in growing numbers.
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Man: Doctors find out he has
taken an overdose of crack.
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Woman: The battle to control
the drug market is deadly.
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Man: Most of the victims
are young blacks who live...
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Narrator: To understand
what drugs had done
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to nannie jeter's family
and others like it,
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I wanted to get out on the road
to talk to people.
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Woman: I know firsthand
the devastation
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we as a family have had to
endure because of the drugs.
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Been here before my kids,
been here before my mom,
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my sister, my dad.
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I had 2 kids, and I lost them
to the streets
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because of my own problems.
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Narrator: Time and again,
I learned
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how one person's struggle
had grown into a crisis
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for their family
and the community.
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By a show of hands,
how many people here
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had any kind of drug involvement
on why they're in here?
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I'm in here for selling drugs.
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I have a life
and 30-year sentence.
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I killed a guy back in 1984.
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Narrator: How'd that happen?
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I just... dope
and out of my head,
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and I wound up shooting a guy
in the mouth and killed him.
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Narrator: But as I began
to look around,
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the very real problems
associated with drug abuse
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began to seem just 1 part
of an even larger problem
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facing the country.
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Man: It's absolutely true
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that drugs have destroyed lives,
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that heroin and cocaine,
for example,
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do nothing to engender
individual dignity.
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But while covering the drug war
as a journalist
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for more than a decade,
I came to understand
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that what drugs
hadn't destroyed,
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the war against them has.
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Freeze!
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Man: The war against drugs
is heating up.
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Simon: Somebody down the road
said we're gonna fight war
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against illicit drugs
because drugs are bad.
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Ok, there's no argument there.
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But think about where we are
30 years later.
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You know, if you look at all the
money spent on drug enforcement,
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on prisons,
on probation officers,
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judges, narcotics agents,
on interdiction,
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and everything else that is
expanded due to war on drugs,
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it gratifies us.
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It makes us feel like
we're tough on crime.
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Put 'em away.
Put 'em away where they belong.
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Simon: But to what end?
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We are the jailingest country
on the planet
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beyond Saudi Arabia, China,
or Russia.
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Nobody jails their population
at the rate that we do,
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and yet drugs are purer
than before,
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they're more available.
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There are younger
and younger kids
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willing to sell them.
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It would be one thing if it was
draconian and it worked,
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but it's draconian
and it doesn't work.
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It just leads to more.
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[Siren]
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Weed?
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[Indistinct chatter]
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Making it work for the old men.
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I'm gonna really...
They gave all of that.
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Shanequa: I'm not
a big, super drug dealer,
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yeah. Yeah, I got some weed,
so...
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I do what I have to do.
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I know how to survive.
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You know, this and that
if I have to.
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It's not hard to tell that these
are the junkies, right?
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Man: Hey, get out
of here with that!
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I think the economy thrives
with the drug money.
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We got judges that's getting
high, too.
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We've got cops
that's sniffing coke.
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We got people with good,
white, college eyes
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that can afford to have it,
and that's the only difference.
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Yeah, the boys is behind us.
The boys is behind us.
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When I think about people living
in inner-city neighborhoods,
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they live off the principle
of equality of life chances.
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You should not be able to enter
a hospital ward
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in an inner-city hospital
of newborn babies
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and predict with near certainty
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on the basis of their class,
background, and race
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where these kids, where
these healthy newborn babies
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are gonna end up in life.
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Shanequa: The dope block.
That's what this is.
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77 romwell towers.
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I got it on my arm.
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This is where I'm from.
For now.
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Simon: Every war starts
with propaganda.
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But with the drug war,
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our definition of what a drug
user or drug seller is...
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Woman: What did your mommy
tell you about drugs?
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Come on, try it.
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Simon: It became almost
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a wartime cartoon of the enemy.
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Weed, coke, crack...
your choice.
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Some folks will tell you
that I'm dealing in poison,
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but hey, do I look like
the kind of guy
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that would do that to a kid
like you?
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Simon: But the truth is
the drugs aren't yours.
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You're just a Minion.
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You're somebody without
any real authority
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selling somebody else's dope.
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It's like fearing a guy
who's at the drive-out window
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at the burger king.
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Shanequa: Basically
it's just about survival.
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I feel like sometimes,
like, cops,
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they view you as,
"oh, you live over here."
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But they don't view you
as, like,
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was it your choice?
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Man: � I was born in a dump
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� my mama died,
and my daddy got drunk �
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� he left me here
to die or grow �
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man: I wouldn't want to work
anywhere else.
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I feel the need to be here
as a minority supervisor.
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It's predominantly
a minority neighborhood.
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Police station for what?
[indistinct]
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What we deal with here
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is a lot of lower-level
narcotic activity.
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Well, what we do to drugs,
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we do mostly drugs
and prostitution.
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[Radio beeps]
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Go ahead, papi.
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Man: We're good to go.
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I'm gonna go in and hit the...
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Copy of the warrant,
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get all of the gear, so...
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All right, I'll start
making my way up there.
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There are sometimes I think you
can trace any crime you want
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to drugs.
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Speaking of drug users
or abusers...
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Magic man!
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What's up, dawg?
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Please, can I get the...
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You still ain't
drinking, right?
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Dude, you still ain't
drinking, right?
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No.
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How long has it been?
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Sober. I've been shopping, man.
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How long has it been?
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Probably been 2 months now.
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Good for you. All right, bro.
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You have a good one, brothers.
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The magic man for 90.
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He's been around forever.
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Man: We like to look
at the war on drugs
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as black hats and white hats
and good guys and bad guys
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and victims and offenders,
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and on the ground, it's a lot
more mixed up than that.
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Go ahead, Chet.
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The guy on Charles
street just re-upped.
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With powder and weed.
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Man: Well, the drugs are
never gonna be gone.
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That's... forget that.
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To say you're gonna be
drug free completely,
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ha ha!
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In drug work, you never
really get that...
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Satisfaction, I suppose.
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'Cause you don't get rid
of drugs.
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I mean, along the way you have
small victories here and there,
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but if you look at
the big picture,
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are we getting anywhere?
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And you could certainly
be frustrated.
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Man: Go get 'em.
I'll come around.
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Don't let 'em run.
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Get out. Police. Don't move.
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[Indistinct chatter]
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I'm gonna get you
the search warrant.
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Sit tight.
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Woo! Wow!
You can smell it in here!
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You want a haircut?
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No.
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You sure? Positive.
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I can practice.
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No.
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Chip, he's got cocaine residue
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on his scales, too.
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[Telephone rings]
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Hello. Yeah, baby.
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I'm in the middle of
doing something, honey.
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Why? Bye, hon.
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Fabio: Just doing
my job, buddy.
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I hear you. I'm not mad.
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I made the mistake to do this.
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I did it, and I'll deal
with the consequences.
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Kennedy: If you talk to people
in law enforcement,
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they believe that the community
is completely corrupt.
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Want to buy some weed?
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Nah, I'm straight.
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How about coke? You
want to buy some coke?
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Kennedy: They believe everybody
is living off drug money,
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that there is no moral center.
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They see communities that blame
everybody but themselves
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for what's going on,
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and then you talk
to those communities,
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and they genuinely believe
that law enforcement
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is using drug laws
to destroy the community.
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Over time, I have discovered
that everybody involved
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hates what's going on.
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Man: It's interesting
this war on drugs,
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how little
the American people know.
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Never thought about it before.
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How people feel about drugs
and everything like that?
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That's what you mean
a war on drugs?
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Narrator: As I started
to ask around,
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I found that if people knew
anything about the war on drugs,
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they thought I was talking about
something in a foreign country.
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Man: 6,500 people died in Mexico
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in drug-related violence
last year.
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Narrator: Yet surprisingly
very few seemed to have any idea
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of the war going on
in their own country.
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I haven't heard the term
"war on drugs" since the '80s.
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Bowden: The biggest
drug industry in the world
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isn't in Mexico,
it's not in Colombia,
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it's not in Afghanistan,
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it's in the United States.
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Man: We in the United States,
perhaps our dirty little secret
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is that between $10 and $16
billion are spent by Americans
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to pay for these illegal drugs,
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creating a demand.
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Man: The thing with
the war on drugs is
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it tries to deal with
a health problem
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as if it was a legal problem.
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Addiction is an effect
of human unhappiness
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and human suffering.
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When people are distressed, they
want to soothe their distress.
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When people are in pain,
they want to soothe their pain.
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So the real question is
not why the addiction,
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but why the pain?
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Bowden: One of the realities is
most people getting arrested
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in this country for drugs
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are selling drugs to support
their own habit.
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And if you stand
in a federal court,
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you're watching poor,
uneducated people
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be fed into a machine like meat
to make sausage.
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It's just bang,
bang, bang, next.
357
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Man: My mother used to tell me
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I was gonna die
before I turned 18.
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I think I believed that...
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From when I was like
14 years old.
361
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That's when I really
started gang banging.
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I started getting in fights
and stuff like that.
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Now, I'm 28 years old,
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being sentenced for 50 grams
of crack cocaine.
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Man: I am mark Bennett,
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United States
district court judge
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for the northern district
of Iowa.
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And in my 15 years,
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I've sent over 2,600 people
to federal prison.
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Man: I grew up around
gang members and drug dealers.
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Them was my role models.
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Coming in here today,
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Maurice haltiwanger's
best chance, best chance,
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is a sentence of 20 years.
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Narrator: Drug laws,
it turns out,
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often carry what are called
mandatory minimum sentences,
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below which a judge cannot
sentence the defendant
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no matter what
the circumstance is.
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Mcgough: You've got a guy like
Maurice haltiwanger
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who grows up
in a bad family situation
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with heartbreaking details of
how he got where he is today.
382
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But even if judge Bennett
wanted to give him a sentence
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below 20 years, he can't.
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Haltiwanger: My mother
was addicted to drugs.
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I don't remember my father
at all.
386
00:17:52,233 --> 00:17:53,483
Man: Why?
387
00:17:53,567 --> 00:17:56,653
He got killed when I was,
like, 3 years old.
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00:17:56,737 --> 00:17:57,954
There was a lot of death
around me.
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00:17:58,038 --> 00:17:59,322
I seen a lot of people die.
390
00:17:59,406 --> 00:18:00,873
I got a lot of friends
that's dead.
391
00:18:00,941 --> 00:18:04,294
But... Huh.
392
00:18:04,378 --> 00:18:07,830
It could have been worse.
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[Gavel pounds]
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Woman: All rise.
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Man: We're here
in the Bible belt,
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00:18:45,619 --> 00:18:47,587
you know,
law and order Oklahoma,
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the prison is the largest
employer in the county.
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The employees live
all around here,
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00:18:52,009 --> 00:18:56,512
and if you take out a prison,
the town would just dry up.
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00:18:56,597 --> 00:18:58,717
Man: I don't know that there's
a job I could do better
401
00:18:58,766 --> 00:19:00,216
in the whole world.
402
00:19:00,301 --> 00:19:02,001
I guess they should have wrote
"prison guard" on my forehead
403
00:19:02,052 --> 00:19:04,687
when I was born
because it just fits me.
404
00:19:04,772 --> 00:19:07,807
The job was built for me.
405
00:19:10,894 --> 00:19:12,455
Franklin: You know,
we incarcerate women
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at the highest per capita rate
in the nation.
407
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Males have been incarcerated, I
believe, the third highest rate.
408
00:19:17,785 --> 00:19:18,901
How you doing?
409
00:19:18,986 --> 00:19:20,453
We have 1,500 inmates.
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The majority are drug
or drug-related crimes.
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00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,209
Man: I'm here on a 12-year
drug trafficking sentence,
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00:19:26,293 --> 00:19:28,161
trafficking crack cocaine.
413
00:19:28,212 --> 00:19:31,097
I'm 34 years old.
I've been here since I was 23.
414
00:19:31,165 --> 00:19:34,233
I'm doing a life sentence
for second-degree murder.
415
00:19:34,301 --> 00:19:38,171
I killed a guy buying a bad drug
deal in Oklahoma city.
416
00:19:38,222 --> 00:19:40,302
Never been high on a piece
of dope in my entire life,
417
00:19:40,307 --> 00:19:42,759
but I've sold tons of it
unfortunately.
418
00:19:42,843 --> 00:19:45,044
Carpenter: We have
a nice secure facility.
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00:19:45,095 --> 00:19:46,456
I can keep anybody
you want to keep
420
00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,848
and I can keep 'em for as long
as you want to keep 'em.
421
00:19:48,899 --> 00:19:51,851
The facility itself is
as secure as it can get.
422
00:19:51,902 --> 00:19:53,936
Lift your genitals up.
423
00:19:54,021 --> 00:19:56,439
Turn around and
spread your butt.
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00:19:57,524 --> 00:19:59,409
Spread it with your hands.
425
00:20:01,161 --> 00:20:02,745
Narrator: As it turns out,
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drug laws have become so harsh
427
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that even the nonviolent can
now be locked up for sentences
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00:20:07,451 --> 00:20:10,036
once reserved
for violent crimes.
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00:20:10,087 --> 00:20:12,955
Franklin: I think a lot of times
we lock up everybody
430
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,624
just because we're mad at them.
431
00:20:14,708 --> 00:20:16,876
We need to lock up the people
that we're afraid of.
432
00:20:16,927 --> 00:20:17,967
They need to be locked up,
433
00:20:18,045 --> 00:20:20,930
but not the people
that we're mad at.
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Carpenter:
I mean, I'm a law and order guy.
435
00:20:30,391 --> 00:20:33,976
I'm a firm believer,
no free rides.
436
00:20:34,061 --> 00:20:38,114
Here, you recognize that your
chances to manipulate the system
437
00:20:38,198 --> 00:20:39,615
are done.
438
00:20:39,700 --> 00:20:42,068
That door slams behind you,
439
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,737
and you have absolutely
no ability to control
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00:20:44,788 --> 00:20:46,539
what goes on on the other side
of that door.
441
00:20:46,606 --> 00:20:48,124
And you can't open the door.
442
00:20:48,208 --> 00:20:50,326
This is where most people,
if they're a newcomer,
443
00:20:50,411 --> 00:20:53,629
a first-time offender,
where they really figure out
444
00:20:53,714 --> 00:20:55,248
that this is prison,
445
00:20:55,299 --> 00:21:00,920
and this is what the next 5, 10,
15, 20, 30 years of your life
446
00:21:00,971 --> 00:21:02,889
looks like, this is it.
447
00:21:02,956 --> 00:21:05,958
[Door slams shut]
448
00:21:09,730 --> 00:21:12,298
Narrator: While following
the steps
449
00:21:12,349 --> 00:21:13,516
that so many Americans take
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through the world
of the drug war,
451
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I couldn't help but notice
that at every stage,
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black Americans were
disproportionately represented.
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00:21:20,307 --> 00:21:22,548
Woman: You know, in any war,
you've got to have an enemy,
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00:21:22,576 --> 00:21:24,911
and when you think about
the impact particularly
455
00:21:24,978 --> 00:21:26,696
on poor people of color,
456
00:21:26,780 --> 00:21:30,199
there are more African Americans
under correctional control today
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in prison or jail,
on probation or parole
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00:21:32,986 --> 00:21:35,838
than were enslaved in 1850,
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00:21:35,923 --> 00:21:38,257
a decade before
the civil war began.
460
00:21:38,325 --> 00:21:40,927
And that's something
we haven't been willing
461
00:21:40,994 --> 00:21:42,929
to look in the mirror
and ask ourselves,
462
00:21:42,996 --> 00:21:45,014
"what's really going on?"
463
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Narrator: As it turns out,
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nearly everyone I talked to
knew all about
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the impact of the drug war
on black America.
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00:21:50,938 --> 00:21:54,190
Man: There's no question
that the criminal laws impact
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disproportionately
on poor and minorities.
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00:21:57,611 --> 00:21:59,645
Correia: Certainly
a disproportionate number
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of black people are prosecuted.
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Narrator: Yet while people
could tell me all about
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their first-hand experience
with this,
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00:22:04,701 --> 00:22:07,954
very few had any idea
where it came from.
473
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Newscaster: Here's America as
you can I like to think of it,
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the land of the free
and the home of the brave.
475
00:22:15,379 --> 00:22:18,498
But from every part of the
nation come newspaper headlines
476
00:22:18,549 --> 00:22:20,833
telling us of an enemy,
477
00:22:20,884 --> 00:22:23,219
America's secret enemy
number 1.
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Woman: � summertime
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� and the living is easy
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Simon: The drug war began as
a war on dangerous narcotics,
481
00:22:39,686 --> 00:22:41,771
at least on its face.
482
00:22:41,838 --> 00:22:43,272
You know, you can trace
modern drug enforcement
483
00:22:43,340 --> 00:22:45,024
back to the early '50s
484
00:22:45,108 --> 00:22:46,976
when you started to see the rise
485
00:22:47,027 --> 00:22:48,861
of the sort of
urban narcotics squads,
486
00:22:48,946 --> 00:22:50,780
the narc.
487
00:22:50,847 --> 00:22:52,982
Newscaster: Government agencies
charged with the enforcement
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of narcotics laws have been able
until recently
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to decrease steadily the number
of addicts in the United States.
490
00:23:00,690 --> 00:23:03,543
Simon: It was at least plausible
as a policy
491
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because the use of
dangerous narcotics
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was truly a counterculture.
493
00:23:09,383 --> 00:23:11,624
It was the jazz man's license,
it was in the back alleys.
494
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It was furtive.
495
00:23:12,970 --> 00:23:14,091
There was no mass marketing.
496
00:23:14,171 --> 00:23:16,055
There were no
drive-up drug corners.
497
00:23:16,139 --> 00:23:19,926
It was a very small percentage
of the American population
498
00:23:20,010 --> 00:23:22,711
that was engaged in the use
of heroin or cocaine.
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That's him.
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Narrator: In the 1950s
as drug use was growing
501
00:23:26,516 --> 00:23:28,351
among Americans
of all background,
502
00:23:28,402 --> 00:23:30,353
law enforcement became
increasingly focused
503
00:23:30,404 --> 00:23:33,489
on 1 group in particular.
504
00:23:33,556 --> 00:23:36,158
Why did you turn the dogs
loose on the policemen?
505
00:23:36,226 --> 00:23:37,526
Man: Are you telling me
that this happened
506
00:23:37,578 --> 00:23:38,444
or are you asking me?
507
00:23:38,528 --> 00:23:39,528
I'm asking you.
508
00:23:39,580 --> 00:23:40,529
No!
509
00:23:40,581 --> 00:23:42,782
Were there narcotics in there?
510
00:23:42,866 --> 00:23:46,285
Man: � well, I have a family,
born free �
511
00:23:46,370 --> 00:23:50,239
� I guess that's the way
it's supposed to be �
512
00:23:50,290 --> 00:23:52,758
there's no question that there
was a passion with which
513
00:23:52,843 --> 00:23:54,710
the early narcotics
enforcement culture
514
00:23:54,761 --> 00:23:56,796
pursued black America,
515
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,714
even though the addict
population was always
516
00:23:58,765 --> 00:24:00,967
distinctly biracial.
517
00:24:01,051 --> 00:24:04,220
Narrator: In the 1960s, drug use
grew widespread in America,
518
00:24:04,271 --> 00:24:06,639
but for black communities,
increasing poverty
519
00:24:06,723 --> 00:24:09,809
pushed the sale and use of drugs
most often onto the street,
520
00:24:09,893 --> 00:24:12,645
making them an even greater
target for law enforcement.
521
00:24:12,729 --> 00:24:14,730
Simon: By the late '60s,
522
00:24:14,781 --> 00:24:16,866
most urban areas had
a mass market for drugs.
523
00:24:16,933 --> 00:24:18,451
By the '80s,
you're really looking at
524
00:24:18,535 --> 00:24:20,936
the drive-thru window, you were
looking at McDonald's.
525
00:24:20,988 --> 00:24:23,406
At that point, you can't claim
that you're trying to isolate
526
00:24:23,457 --> 00:24:25,324
a countercultural phenomenon.
527
00:24:25,409 --> 00:24:28,244
You're fighting a war against
a whole community.
528
00:24:28,295 --> 00:24:36,295
Woman: � amazing grace
529
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:44,093
� how sweet the sound
530
00:24:44,144 --> 00:24:45,678
narrator: In October 2009,
531
00:24:45,762 --> 00:24:47,930
I joined nannie jeter at
the funeral of a family member
532
00:24:47,981 --> 00:24:49,815
I'd known growing up.
533
00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:53,069
Over the years, drugs had
deeply affected her life,
534
00:24:53,136 --> 00:24:56,772
and the event brought back
difficult memories for nannie.
535
00:24:56,823 --> 00:25:02,578
Nannie: My son James,
he died in '89 or '87.
536
00:25:02,645 --> 00:25:05,865
I can't quite remember.
537
00:25:05,949 --> 00:25:10,619
Before he died, he said,
"mommy, I'm just tired of it.
538
00:25:10,671 --> 00:25:11,871
"I cannot live this life.
539
00:25:11,955 --> 00:25:14,156
"It doesn't matter what I do.
540
00:25:14,207 --> 00:25:16,359
I just want to die."
541
00:25:16,426 --> 00:25:19,845
All I know,
my son used the needle.
542
00:25:19,930 --> 00:25:21,690
Narrator: Though I'd known about
James' death
543
00:25:21,765 --> 00:25:23,049
at the time it happened,
544
00:25:23,133 --> 00:25:25,101
I didn't know the extent
of his addiction
545
00:25:25,168 --> 00:25:27,470
nor how widely drugs
and the drug war
546
00:25:27,521 --> 00:25:29,105
had affected nannie's family.
547
00:25:29,172 --> 00:25:31,223
It wasn't until
I started catching up
548
00:25:31,308 --> 00:25:32,358
with childhood friends...
549
00:25:32,442 --> 00:25:33,809
You're kidding me.
550
00:25:33,860 --> 00:25:36,278
That I began to realize
the full extent of it.
551
00:25:36,346 --> 00:25:38,347
Man: Any bastard of our family.
552
00:25:38,398 --> 00:25:41,984
I didn't realize my father
was into... was a heroin addict.
553
00:25:42,035 --> 00:25:44,787
Yeah. I got the news
in channels. Ha ha.
554
00:25:44,854 --> 00:25:46,822
How come you didn't tell me?
555
00:25:46,873 --> 00:25:48,040
Drugs.
556
00:25:48,125 --> 00:25:50,376
The war on drugs has been going
on for so long, man,
557
00:25:50,460 --> 00:25:52,328
it's tough.
558
00:25:52,379 --> 00:25:54,413
That one there, man,
I just got to say
559
00:25:54,498 --> 00:25:56,999
God got to intervene on this.
560
00:25:57,050 --> 00:25:58,584
Narrator: Again and again,
I heard how drug laws
561
00:25:58,668 --> 00:26:01,554
had done more to punish
individuals and their loves ones
562
00:26:01,638 --> 00:26:04,640
than to mount a serious effort
to prevent drug abuse.
563
00:26:04,707 --> 00:26:07,709
But if this is what the drug was
was doing to nannie's family,
564
00:26:07,761 --> 00:26:10,062
what was it doing
to other families?
565
00:26:10,147 --> 00:26:12,648
There's a structural problem
in the country
566
00:26:12,715 --> 00:26:14,066
that we keep ignoring.
567
00:26:14,151 --> 00:26:17,486
We have 2 million people
in our jails and prisons,
568
00:26:17,554 --> 00:26:19,234
and a million of them
are African American,
569
00:26:19,239 --> 00:26:20,272
most of them are males,
570
00:26:20,357 --> 00:26:22,158
many of them for
nonviolent drug offenses.
571
00:26:22,225 --> 00:26:24,560
That is a pattern
that has overwhelmed
572
00:26:24,611 --> 00:26:26,162
the African American community
573
00:26:26,229 --> 00:26:27,729
because we're getting
a whole generation of kids
574
00:26:27,781 --> 00:26:30,399
who now have the assumption
that they're destined
575
00:26:30,450 --> 00:26:32,084
to be in the criminal justice
system.
576
00:26:32,169 --> 00:26:34,286
What people need to see today
577
00:26:34,371 --> 00:26:37,089
is that the next generation of
children right now
578
00:26:37,174 --> 00:26:40,843
with the barriers they face
aren't going to be like I was
579
00:26:40,910 --> 00:26:44,346
or like my parents were
or like my grandparents were,
580
00:26:44,414 --> 00:26:47,383
a generation better than
those who preceded them.
581
00:26:58,028 --> 00:26:59,478
Man: At the precinct,
they told me my charge
582
00:26:59,563 --> 00:27:01,147
was a conspiracy charge,
583
00:27:01,231 --> 00:27:03,599
conspiracy of 50 grams or more.
584
00:27:03,650 --> 00:27:05,234
Shh...
585
00:27:05,285 --> 00:27:06,786
I messed up.
586
00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:11,273
That's all I'm thinking about
is I messed up.
587
00:27:15,378 --> 00:27:18,614
A reputed member of
a notorious drug gang
588
00:27:18,665 --> 00:27:21,050
was caught in a drug bust
in st,. Albans today.
589
00:27:21,117 --> 00:27:23,803
Man: 24-year-old Anthony Johnson
of New York was arrested
590
00:27:23,887 --> 00:27:26,088
along with 2 other people
during a drug raid.
591
00:27:26,139 --> 00:27:28,140
Investigators said Johnson
had been bringing crack
592
00:27:28,225 --> 00:27:31,060
from New York to sell
in Vermont.
593
00:27:34,314 --> 00:27:38,400
Man: Right now you've
pled guilty to a charge
594
00:27:38,468 --> 00:27:41,270
which requires
a 5-year-mandatory minimum.
595
00:27:41,321 --> 00:27:42,404
You know what that means?
596
00:27:42,472 --> 00:27:43,772
I can't get less than 5 years.
597
00:27:43,824 --> 00:27:46,808
That seems harsh when
you think about the fact
598
00:27:46,860 --> 00:27:48,644
that he is not violent at all.
599
00:27:48,695 --> 00:27:50,996
So it's critical
to present Anthony
600
00:27:51,081 --> 00:27:53,415
as far more than a drug dealer.
601
00:27:53,483 --> 00:27:55,883
Woman: John pacht is one of the
best criminal defense lawyers
602
00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:57,620
in Vermont, and he came
to me and says,
603
00:27:57,671 --> 00:28:00,172
"Susan, I really need your help
with this kid."
604
00:28:00,257 --> 00:28:01,790
I really believe that he was,
you know,
605
00:28:01,842 --> 00:28:04,793
in the wrong place,
didn't have a lot of options.
606
00:28:04,845 --> 00:28:08,047
Narrator: Though Anthony Johnson
was arrested in rural Vermont,
607
00:28:08,131 --> 00:28:10,716
he is originally from the very
same New York housing project
608
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,386
where he first met
shanequa benitez.
609
00:28:14,471 --> 00:28:15,971
So you know Anthony? Yeah.
610
00:28:16,022 --> 00:28:18,641
Anthony Johnson,
he's 24 years old,
611
00:28:18,692 --> 00:28:21,477
and he's looking at 5-40 years
of jail.
612
00:28:21,528 --> 00:28:23,562
You know,
by the time he gets out,
613
00:28:23,647 --> 00:28:25,281
he won't have a life.
614
00:28:25,348 --> 00:28:26,982
Narrator: Following
Anthony's legal team
615
00:28:27,033 --> 00:28:29,952
as they investigated the steps
leading to his arrest,
616
00:28:30,019 --> 00:28:33,822
I started to learn more about
where he came from.
617
00:28:33,874 --> 00:28:36,625
More clearly than before, I
could see how the vicious cycle
618
00:28:36,693 --> 00:28:39,912
of the drug wars
spans generations.
619
00:28:39,996 --> 00:28:42,882
Anthony: I wish my father
was way different, you know?
620
00:28:42,966 --> 00:28:44,700
I remember one day
I was outside
621
00:28:44,751 --> 00:28:47,303
in front of the building,
622
00:28:47,370 --> 00:28:48,837
you know, I noticed him
623
00:28:48,889 --> 00:28:50,556
doing a little hand-to-hand.
624
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,175
And ever since then,
625
00:28:53,226 --> 00:28:55,043
I figured he was a drug dealer.
626
00:28:55,095 --> 00:28:57,012
Then after that,
I kind of seen him
627
00:28:57,063 --> 00:28:58,681
a couple times doing it.
628
00:28:58,732 --> 00:29:00,266
Did you ever ask him about it?
629
00:29:00,350 --> 00:29:02,768
No. Never asked him.
630
00:29:02,852 --> 00:29:04,353
Why?
631
00:29:04,404 --> 00:29:06,906
'Cause I don't ask
those questions.
632
00:29:06,990 --> 00:29:08,357
I knew,
633
00:29:08,408 --> 00:29:10,559
so I ain't really want
to hear his answers.
634
00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:13,078
So that's why I ain't
really asked.
635
00:29:23,757 --> 00:29:26,342
All right, now.
636
00:29:26,409 --> 00:29:31,680
When I heard of it,
he's selling drugs,
637
00:29:31,748 --> 00:29:35,968
to be honest with you,
to be totally honest with you,
638
00:29:36,052 --> 00:29:39,271
it didn't surprise me.
639
00:29:40,923 --> 00:29:43,392
From where we was at,
where we came out of,
640
00:29:43,443 --> 00:29:45,311
where we lived.
641
00:29:47,364 --> 00:29:49,865
The drug dealers are looked at
642
00:29:49,932 --> 00:29:52,601
as really the leaders
of the community.
643
00:29:52,652 --> 00:29:54,453
If your moms can't pay rent,
644
00:29:54,537 --> 00:29:55,621
they help out on the rent.
645
00:29:55,705 --> 00:29:57,206
If you needed a little bit
of food sometimes,
646
00:29:57,273 --> 00:29:59,775
they will give money
to your household for food.
647
00:29:59,826 --> 00:30:02,878
It's like back in the day,
magic had the converse out.
648
00:30:02,945 --> 00:30:04,446
Everybody wanted
the new converses,
649
00:30:04,497 --> 00:30:05,947
and he would get them for you.
650
00:30:05,999 --> 00:30:08,500
The drug dealer would come
right up the block from us,
651
00:30:08,585 --> 00:30:10,002
5 or 6 of us.
652
00:30:10,086 --> 00:30:11,337
"You pick out a pair,
you pick out a pair,
653
00:30:11,421 --> 00:30:12,788
you pick out a pair."
654
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:15,724
We come back on the block,
we all carrying sneaker boxes.
655
00:30:15,792 --> 00:30:17,125
He in front of us.
656
00:30:17,177 --> 00:30:19,345
And oh, everybody want to know
what's up.
657
00:30:19,429 --> 00:30:20,679
"Where you get the magics?
You got the magics.
658
00:30:20,764 --> 00:30:22,231
You got the magics."
659
00:30:22,298 --> 00:30:23,732
And then we tell them
who we got them from.
660
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,652
The next step is every time
he comes on the block,
661
00:30:26,736 --> 00:30:28,070
you're always under him.
662
00:30:28,137 --> 00:30:29,488
He wants his water
from the store.
663
00:30:29,572 --> 00:30:32,024
He'll give you a $5.00 bill.
"Go get me a water."
664
00:30:32,108 --> 00:30:33,742
You know, the change is yours.
665
00:30:33,810 --> 00:30:37,112
Half these waters
he didn't drink.
666
00:30:37,163 --> 00:30:40,366
Ice cream truck came,
always bought us ice cream.
667
00:30:40,450 --> 00:30:41,583
And he didn't even have to pay.
668
00:30:41,651 --> 00:30:45,004
He'd tell the ice cream man,
"hey, yo, get 'em."
669
00:30:45,088 --> 00:30:47,539
And the ice cream man
would give us all ice cream.
670
00:30:47,624 --> 00:30:50,709
Honestly, I loved him.
671
00:30:50,794 --> 00:30:54,996
I loved him because when they
came around, it was Christmas.
672
00:30:55,048 --> 00:30:59,334
As you get older, they say
you get your own money.
673
00:30:59,386 --> 00:31:01,136
Sell drugs, sell drugs.
674
00:31:01,187 --> 00:31:02,337
"I don't know how
to sell no drugs."
675
00:31:02,389 --> 00:31:04,440
He said, "you don't have to know
how to sell 'em."
676
00:31:04,507 --> 00:31:07,526
"Just stand there.
I'll send them over to you."
677
00:31:07,610 --> 00:31:09,978
He gave me the drugs.
I stood there.
678
00:31:10,030 --> 00:31:12,314
And he would point,
and they would come to me.
679
00:31:12,365 --> 00:31:14,366
And then I had
my own sneaker money,
680
00:31:14,451 --> 00:31:16,017
I had my own movie money.
681
00:31:16,069 --> 00:31:19,038
And then I had my own power.
682
00:31:19,122 --> 00:31:21,523
Our role models
wasn't nobody famous.
683
00:31:21,574 --> 00:31:22,691
You know?
684
00:31:22,742 --> 00:31:25,026
I mean, where I come from
in the neighborhood,
685
00:31:25,078 --> 00:31:27,629
there was hood famous,
you know.
686
00:31:27,697 --> 00:31:29,865
My big brother, Dennis Johnson,
687
00:31:29,916 --> 00:31:32,200
he came from doing
the same thing.
688
00:31:32,252 --> 00:31:35,304
But it was mostly 1 person,
my man te.
689
00:31:35,371 --> 00:31:37,473
He was everything
I wanted to be.
690
00:31:37,540 --> 00:31:40,759
He had the girls, the clothes,
you know,
691
00:31:40,844 --> 00:31:42,644
the jewelry, the cars,
the money.
692
00:31:42,712 --> 00:31:44,563
That's what I wanted, you know?
693
00:31:44,647 --> 00:31:45,814
But I wanted to be te.
694
00:31:45,882 --> 00:31:47,599
I wanted to be little te.
695
00:31:47,684 --> 00:31:49,318
Te schooled me to the game.
696
00:31:49,385 --> 00:31:51,520
You know, he'd show me
how to get money,
697
00:31:51,571 --> 00:31:53,322
but I worked it.
698
00:31:53,389 --> 00:31:55,407
[Baby fussing]
699
00:31:57,944 --> 00:32:00,061
Woman: Hey, John, I somehow
just missed your call.
700
00:32:00,113 --> 00:32:02,664
I just wanted to
double check with you
701
00:32:02,732 --> 00:32:05,033
and give you a chance
to talk to Alicia
702
00:32:05,085 --> 00:32:08,537
about where we're at
and what Anthony's looking at.
703
00:32:08,588 --> 00:32:10,172
They're trying to go for 5.
704
00:32:10,239 --> 00:32:11,623
But if not, anything under 10.
705
00:32:11,708 --> 00:32:13,008
They're not trying to make him
706
00:32:13,075 --> 00:32:14,426
go beyond that.
707
00:32:14,511 --> 00:32:15,677
Yeah.
708
00:32:15,745 --> 00:32:18,347
Like the 5-40
was scaring me. Ha!
709
00:32:18,414 --> 00:32:20,265
I was always proud of him,
710
00:32:20,350 --> 00:32:22,885
but I just always figured
that he was ok,
711
00:32:22,936 --> 00:32:26,805
that he was good, you know?
712
00:32:26,890 --> 00:32:28,774
Anthony: I know I screwed up,
713
00:32:28,858 --> 00:32:32,594
because you know you need
that father figure in your life.
714
00:32:32,645 --> 00:32:34,229
Oh...
715
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,315
I know my daughter,
she need me,
716
00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:38,901
and I don't want me and her
to have the same relationship
717
00:32:38,952 --> 00:32:40,435
me and my father had,
718
00:32:40,487 --> 00:32:42,154
looking at me in pictures,
719
00:32:42,238 --> 00:32:45,624
and got to say that's my dad,
you know, come to visiting.
720
00:32:45,708 --> 00:32:47,993
You know, I got to tell her
daddy's at school
721
00:32:48,077 --> 00:32:50,445
when I speak to her on the
phone or something, you know?
722
00:32:50,497 --> 00:32:53,882
'Cause I don't want to tell her
that I'm in jail.
723
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,142
Narrator:
Watching Anthony's child sleep
724
00:33:03,226 --> 00:33:05,811
hundreds of Miles from
the father she's never met,
725
00:33:05,895 --> 00:33:08,597
I could see the painful cycle
gripping his family,
726
00:33:08,648 --> 00:33:11,183
but I also had to honestly
wonder what compelled him
727
00:33:11,267 --> 00:33:12,734
to make the choices he did.
728
00:33:12,802 --> 00:33:14,442
Ogletree:
You know, it's very interesting,
729
00:33:14,487 --> 00:33:17,472
people ask the question, what
about personal responsibility?
730
00:33:17,524 --> 00:33:20,475
The only thing you don't do
is blame criminals
731
00:33:20,527 --> 00:33:22,978
for the crime
that they committed.
732
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:25,113
You blame everybody else
and everything else...
733
00:33:25,165 --> 00:33:27,416
Ogletree: You know, I wish
the answer were that simple,
734
00:33:27,483 --> 00:33:30,151
but let's just take
a little step back.
735
00:33:30,203 --> 00:33:32,704
There are structural
impediments.
736
00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:36,324
What you see over and over again
in urban America
737
00:33:36,376 --> 00:33:38,660
are kids who live
in a crowded home,
738
00:33:38,711 --> 00:33:40,128
who are hungry
when they go to school,
739
00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:43,599
who lack attention because
they've heard noise and gunshots
740
00:33:43,666 --> 00:33:46,001
and other things
where they live.
741
00:33:46,052 --> 00:33:48,687
Man: I don't think people
fully understand.
742
00:33:48,771 --> 00:33:50,189
In the inner city,
743
00:33:50,273 --> 00:33:52,841
these kids are making
rational choices.
744
00:33:52,892 --> 00:33:54,810
I profiled a girl
who was like this,
745
00:33:54,861 --> 00:33:56,311
a 10-year-old girl.
746
00:33:56,362 --> 00:33:58,513
The minute she steps out
her front doorway,
747
00:33:58,565 --> 00:34:00,315
there are drug dealers
out there,
748
00:34:00,366 --> 00:34:02,034
no economic opportunity.
749
00:34:02,118 --> 00:34:04,236
The school is warehousing her.
750
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,288
She doesn't see any prospects.
751
00:34:06,355 --> 00:34:09,491
How is she supposed to get out?
752
00:34:09,542 --> 00:34:10,742
At the end of the day
753
00:34:10,827 --> 00:34:12,377
when there's not a lot
of resources out here
754
00:34:12,462 --> 00:34:14,195
and your teachers aren't
stressing you to come to class
755
00:34:14,247 --> 00:34:18,250
or not even caring, you know,
you're not gonna go to school.
756
00:34:18,334 --> 00:34:19,501
You're gonna sell drugs.
757
00:34:19,552 --> 00:34:21,386
You're gonna do
what you have to do.
758
00:34:21,471 --> 00:34:23,889
Simon: To go down to
a drug corner in the inner city
759
00:34:23,973 --> 00:34:26,041
is the rational act
of somebody going to work
760
00:34:26,092 --> 00:34:29,377
for the only company that exists
in a company town,
761
00:34:29,429 --> 00:34:31,313
when that is the only economy
that's functioning
762
00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:33,765
in certain places
in this country.
763
00:34:33,850 --> 00:34:35,601
What do we expect?
764
00:34:35,685 --> 00:34:38,219
Narrator: Beyond the structural
barriers that promote drug crime
765
00:34:38,271 --> 00:34:41,073
on the street, those arrested
soon find themselves
766
00:34:41,157 --> 00:34:43,075
in the self-perpetuating cycle
767
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,277
from which few
ever really escape.
768
00:34:45,361 --> 00:34:47,029
Ogletree: People don't realize,
for example,
769
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,615
that when you arrest a young
black man and he goes to jail,
770
00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:51,900
the first thing
when he gets out of the prison,
771
00:34:51,951 --> 00:34:55,837
he can't get a job in most
places because of his record.
772
00:34:55,905 --> 00:34:57,456
Woman:
If you have a family charge,
773
00:34:57,540 --> 00:34:58,624
you need to be working,
774
00:34:58,708 --> 00:35:00,676
you need to be trying
to move yourself forward.
775
00:35:00,743 --> 00:35:02,594
Ogletree: If he wants to go back
to school to go to college,
776
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:05,847
he's ineligible by law
for certain grants.
777
00:35:05,915 --> 00:35:07,799
Woman: Medical issues.
If you have anything...
778
00:35:07,884 --> 00:35:09,884
Ogletree: He can't get certain
healthcare benefits.
779
00:35:09,886 --> 00:35:12,020
He can't live
in certain neighborhoods.
780
00:35:12,088 --> 00:35:14,890
His family that was
the centerpiece of his life,
781
00:35:14,941 --> 00:35:18,143
if they're living in public
housing, they can't take him in.
782
00:35:18,227 --> 00:35:19,645
Bill Clinton: The only people
who deserve to live
783
00:35:19,729 --> 00:35:22,648
in public housing are those
who live responsibly there.
784
00:35:22,732 --> 00:35:24,032
He can't vote.
785
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:25,941
Alexander: Release from prison
offers this idea
786
00:35:25,985 --> 00:35:28,904
that you're gonna return
to some kind of freedom,
787
00:35:28,955 --> 00:35:30,989
but in reality,
for the rest of your life,
788
00:35:31,074 --> 00:35:33,492
you've got to check that box
on employment applications
789
00:35:33,576 --> 00:35:35,377
asking that dreaded question,
790
00:35:35,444 --> 00:35:37,212
"have you ever been convicted
of a felony?"
791
00:35:37,279 --> 00:35:40,299
It becomes a vicious circle
in which people cycle out of
792
00:35:40,383 --> 00:35:45,120
their ghetto communities
into prison and back.
793
00:35:48,007 --> 00:35:50,976
As a physician, I'm concerned
with the casualties
794
00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:52,177
of the war on drugs,
795
00:35:52,261 --> 00:35:55,931
which is the front line users
and the petty dealers.
796
00:35:55,982 --> 00:35:59,300
But rather than seeing
a drug problem in isolation,
797
00:35:59,352 --> 00:36:01,770
you have to see it
in the social context.
798
00:36:01,821 --> 00:36:03,405
These are not problems,
none of them,
799
00:36:03,472 --> 00:36:06,141
that are just intrinsic
to individuals.
800
00:36:06,192 --> 00:36:07,242
They all represent
801
00:36:07,309 --> 00:36:09,361
multi-generational
family history,
802
00:36:09,445 --> 00:36:12,948
culture, social conditions,
and human failure.
803
00:36:12,999 --> 00:36:17,369
You know, like, you say
all the things that you knew
804
00:36:17,453 --> 00:36:19,654
that when you was
coming up that was wrong.
805
00:36:19,706 --> 00:36:23,324
Now I'm starting to do them,
but I can't control it
806
00:36:23,376 --> 00:36:25,043
because I've got
these problems.
807
00:36:25,128 --> 00:36:28,046
I'm using drugs.
I'm halfway selling drugs.
808
00:36:28,131 --> 00:36:29,598
I'm using drugs.
809
00:36:29,665 --> 00:36:33,185
And now I've got these
2 little boys, pretty boys...
810
00:36:38,507 --> 00:36:41,226
And I don't know how to...
811
00:36:44,697 --> 00:36:47,065
Really relate to that.
812
00:36:49,952 --> 00:36:52,704
I know I'm supposed to.
I know I ain't have one.
813
00:36:52,789 --> 00:36:55,991
And I know I'm supposed to.
814
00:36:56,042 --> 00:36:58,043
Ah...
815
00:36:58,127 --> 00:37:03,131
I didn't know how to stop doing
what I was doing.
816
00:37:03,199 --> 00:37:05,467
Excuse me.
817
00:37:05,534 --> 00:37:08,036
To be like that.
818
00:37:10,139 --> 00:37:11,923
Narrator: Seeing the pain
Anthony's father carries
819
00:37:12,008 --> 00:37:15,260
over both his own choices and
the impact of outside pressures,
820
00:37:15,344 --> 00:37:17,345
I wondered how a matter
of public health
821
00:37:17,397 --> 00:37:19,765
didn't just inspire
early drug laws,
822
00:37:19,849 --> 00:37:22,100
but became the full-blown target
of a war.
823
00:37:22,185 --> 00:37:25,220
Nixon: America's
public enemy number 1
824
00:37:25,271 --> 00:37:29,074
in the United States
is drug abuse.
825
00:37:29,158 --> 00:37:31,610
In order to fight and defeat
this enemy,
826
00:37:31,694 --> 00:37:36,198
it is necessary to wage
a new all-out offensive.
827
00:37:36,249 --> 00:37:39,167
Man: Target's ready.
Male negro, 5' 7".
828
00:37:39,235 --> 00:37:40,335
[Gunshot]
829
00:37:40,402 --> 00:37:42,587
Bowden: The U.S. war on drugs
830
00:37:42,672 --> 00:37:46,091
was initiated officially
under president Richard Nixon
831
00:37:46,175 --> 00:37:47,843
to get his polls up.
832
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:49,044
Narrator: For most people
I talked to,
833
00:37:49,095 --> 00:37:50,762
the drug war as we know it today
834
00:37:50,847 --> 00:37:53,131
was born in the late '60s
and early '70s
835
00:37:53,216 --> 00:37:54,433
under Richard Nixon.
836
00:37:54,517 --> 00:37:57,385
Nixon: I have no sympathy for
the pushers and the peddlers
837
00:37:57,437 --> 00:37:59,187
and the others in this country.
838
00:37:59,255 --> 00:38:00,588
[Cheering]
839
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,192
We are going to restore freedom
from fear in America again!
840
00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:06,594
Man: When Nixon ran
for president in 1968,
841
00:38:06,646 --> 00:38:10,398
he talked about the problem
of crime in the street.
842
00:38:10,450 --> 00:38:12,067
Nixon: The wave of crime
is not going to be
843
00:38:12,118 --> 00:38:15,320
the wave of the future
in the United States of America.
844
00:38:15,404 --> 00:38:17,322
Mauer: And this was really
the first time
845
00:38:17,406 --> 00:38:19,624
in a major way that
the issue of drug crime
846
00:38:19,709 --> 00:38:21,793
became a national
political issue.
847
00:38:21,878 --> 00:38:23,328
Give 'em a...
848
00:38:23,412 --> 00:38:25,380
Alexander: Richard Nixon
is credited as the first
849
00:38:25,447 --> 00:38:28,083
to coin the term
"a war on drugs,"
850
00:38:28,134 --> 00:38:29,918
but what most people
don't realize
851
00:38:29,969 --> 00:38:32,487
is that under Richard Nixon,
852
00:38:32,555 --> 00:38:36,124
2/3 of the drug war budget
was devoted to treatment
853
00:38:36,175 --> 00:38:39,060
rather than law enforcement.
854
00:38:39,128 --> 00:38:41,563
Because a program
of law enforcement alone
855
00:38:41,630 --> 00:38:43,064
is not enough.
856
00:38:43,132 --> 00:38:44,432
Simon: Well, Nixon actually had
some forward thinking
857
00:38:44,484 --> 00:38:45,901
in the war on drugs.
858
00:38:45,968 --> 00:38:47,903
He understood the need
to address addiction.
859
00:38:47,970 --> 00:38:51,156
Nixon: This means that
on the treatment of addicts,
860
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:52,657
we must go parallel...
861
00:38:52,742 --> 00:38:55,142
Simon: And he actually did some
things that were progressive,
862
00:38:55,161 --> 00:38:57,279
certainly by standards
of what came after him.
863
00:38:57,330 --> 00:38:58,479
Nixon: You don't turn
to the drugs
864
00:38:58,531 --> 00:39:02,250
unless you can't find
satisfaction another way
865
00:39:02,318 --> 00:39:03,484
in your own life.
866
00:39:03,536 --> 00:39:05,337
Narrator:
The more I learned about Nixon,
867
00:39:05,421 --> 00:39:06,955
the more confusing he became.
868
00:39:07,006 --> 00:39:09,324
Privately, he knew that he'd be
far more successful
869
00:39:09,375 --> 00:39:11,593
with drug treatment
than with law enforcement,
870
00:39:11,660 --> 00:39:14,546
but publicly
at the '72 election approached,
871
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:16,998
Nixon returned to the simple
crime-fighting rhetoric
872
00:39:17,049 --> 00:39:18,517
that had worked for him before.
873
00:39:18,601 --> 00:39:20,969
Nixon: We must wage what
I have called total war
874
00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:24,372
against public enemy number 1
in the United States,
875
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,174
the problem with
dangerous drugs.
876
00:39:26,242 --> 00:39:27,692
Newscaster:
Nixon wins re-election
877
00:39:27,777 --> 00:39:28,977
in a landslide victory...
878
00:39:29,028 --> 00:39:31,346
Narrator: As Nixon's tough talk
proved a recipe
879
00:39:31,397 --> 00:39:33,031
for electoral success,
880
00:39:33,115 --> 00:39:35,901
states across the country
began passing tough new laws.
881
00:39:35,985 --> 00:39:38,320
Half the crime is caused
by narcotic addicts.
882
00:39:38,371 --> 00:39:40,322
With New York's
rockefeller drug laws
883
00:39:40,373 --> 00:39:42,073
setting an example
for harsh penalties,
884
00:39:42,158 --> 00:39:45,126
he would soon be followed
by other states.
885
00:39:47,463 --> 00:39:49,414
Man: You guys better get ready
in a few minutes.
886
00:39:49,498 --> 00:39:52,500
At 7:58 you are just almost
out of time.
887
00:39:52,552 --> 00:39:55,170
Yes, sir.
888
00:39:55,221 --> 00:39:56,338
You guys be careful.
889
00:39:56,389 --> 00:39:57,505
Ok. Bye, dad. Love you.
890
00:39:57,557 --> 00:39:59,140
Love you, too.
891
00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:08,016
Carpenter: I am very much
a law and order kind of guy.
892
00:40:08,067 --> 00:40:10,318
I would rather have
10 police cars
893
00:40:10,386 --> 00:40:13,521
than 1 soup kitchen
if you give me the choice,
894
00:40:13,573 --> 00:40:16,992
but sometimes I think
that we need to be smarter
895
00:40:17,059 --> 00:40:19,694
about what those police officers
are actually out there doing.
896
00:40:19,745 --> 00:40:22,280
Narrator: Maybe because
he's seen the epitome
897
00:40:22,365 --> 00:40:23,949
of the hardened prison official,
898
00:40:24,033 --> 00:40:26,734
Mike carpenter's perspective
on the severity of drug laws
899
00:40:26,786 --> 00:40:28,336
caught me off guard.
900
00:40:28,404 --> 00:40:29,725
Carpenter: I think
a long time ago
901
00:40:29,755 --> 00:40:34,042
we made drugs
into this huge thing
902
00:40:34,093 --> 00:40:37,262
and we've made it so illegal
903
00:40:37,346 --> 00:40:43,251
and we've made it
such a national issue
904
00:40:43,302 --> 00:40:45,753
with that tough on crime stance,
905
00:40:45,805 --> 00:40:46,965
I mean, you can't get elected
906
00:40:47,023 --> 00:40:49,107
if you don't profess to be
tough on crime.
907
00:40:49,191 --> 00:40:51,226
First we have to join together
908
00:40:51,277 --> 00:40:52,694
and ensure the drug dealers
are punished
909
00:40:52,761 --> 00:40:54,646
swiftly, surely, and severely.
910
00:40:54,730 --> 00:40:56,982
Carpenter: You can't stay
elected if you don't do things
911
00:40:57,066 --> 00:40:58,366
to be tough on crime.
912
00:40:58,434 --> 00:40:59,934
Bush: Is to toughen sentences,
913
00:40:59,986 --> 00:41:01,820
beef up law enforcement,
914
00:41:01,904 --> 00:41:05,907
and build new prison space
for 24,000 inmates.
915
00:41:05,958 --> 00:41:07,608
Carpenter: You know, nobody
can afford to be the first guy
916
00:41:07,660 --> 00:41:09,610
to say wait a minute, we
can't afford what we're doing.
917
00:41:09,662 --> 00:41:11,112
Let's do something different
918
00:41:11,163 --> 00:41:12,664
because if you even made a noise
919
00:41:12,748 --> 00:41:14,949
like you were gonna be
soft on crime in any way,
920
00:41:15,001 --> 00:41:16,551
you would be out of a job.
921
00:41:16,618 --> 00:41:19,004
You will be put away
and put away for good,
922
00:41:19,088 --> 00:41:21,923
3 strikes and you are out.
923
00:41:21,974 --> 00:41:23,425
[Applause]
924
00:41:23,476 --> 00:41:24,843
Carpenter: You get in front
of the camera,
925
00:41:24,927 --> 00:41:27,512
and you talk loudly about
we need to lock up criminals,
926
00:41:27,596 --> 00:41:28,930
we need to make
our streets safe,
927
00:41:28,981 --> 00:41:31,966
and so we become victims
of the sound bite.
928
00:41:32,018 --> 00:41:34,302
Reagan: The American people want
their government to get tough
929
00:41:34,353 --> 00:41:35,970
and to go on the offensive,
930
00:41:36,022 --> 00:41:38,523
and that's exactly
what we intend.
931
00:41:38,607 --> 00:41:39,991
Carpenter: I think sometimes
we have people doing
932
00:41:40,076 --> 00:41:43,778
a whole lot of time
for not very much crime.
933
00:41:43,846 --> 00:41:46,648
It's almost like
they're paying for our fear
934
00:41:46,716 --> 00:41:49,217
instead of paying
for their crime.
935
00:41:49,285 --> 00:41:50,835
Narrator: For many working
in corrections,
936
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,820
I heard the same frustration,
937
00:41:52,872 --> 00:41:55,113
that political rhetoric not
only floods their facilities,
938
00:41:55,157 --> 00:41:58,426
but robs them of the resources
they need to do their jobs.
939
00:41:58,494 --> 00:41:59,794
Franklin:
People want to lock people up
940
00:41:59,845 --> 00:42:01,546
and keep them locked away.
941
00:42:01,630 --> 00:42:02,997
And then when their sentence
is over,
942
00:42:03,049 --> 00:42:06,101
they expect this person to be
reformed or a different person,
943
00:42:06,168 --> 00:42:08,520
then if you haven't given them
any skills or trained them,
944
00:42:08,604 --> 00:42:10,838
how can they be?
945
00:42:12,308 --> 00:42:14,309
Man: I'm the cabinet maker
director here
946
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,843
at Lexington vo-tech.
947
00:42:15,895 --> 00:42:17,678
When these guys get out of
prison, we find them a job
948
00:42:17,730 --> 00:42:18,897
and help them get a job.
949
00:42:18,981 --> 00:42:20,365
Keeps 'em working,
950
00:42:20,449 --> 00:42:21,816
make some taxpayers
in the state of Oklahoma.
951
00:42:21,867 --> 00:42:23,151
Franklin: He's already got
1 strike against him
952
00:42:23,202 --> 00:42:24,619
that he's a convicted felon,
953
00:42:24,686 --> 00:42:26,705
but at least he can say, hey,
I'm a licensed electrician
954
00:42:26,789 --> 00:42:28,656
or a licensed carpenter.
955
00:42:28,708 --> 00:42:29,824
Carpenter:
For a lot of these guys,
956
00:42:29,875 --> 00:42:33,161
they've never had self-respect,
I guess.
957
00:42:33,212 --> 00:42:35,080
I mean, it's been
false self-respect
958
00:42:35,164 --> 00:42:37,882
because they were tough
or because they stole a lot
959
00:42:37,967 --> 00:42:40,168
or because they sold
a lot of drugs,
960
00:42:40,219 --> 00:42:41,869
and this gives them the chance
to anchor themselves
961
00:42:41,921 --> 00:42:44,872
to something good,
these rehabilitation programs.
962
00:42:44,924 --> 00:42:46,007
Man:
Prison is not a nice place,
963
00:42:46,058 --> 00:42:47,475
but I'm glad I came here.
964
00:42:47,543 --> 00:42:51,096
It's made me a better person.
965
00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:54,682
This program's probably the best
thing that's happened to me
966
00:42:54,734 --> 00:42:56,050
in my life.
967
00:42:56,102 --> 00:42:57,819
All: We are seeking change,
968
00:42:57,886 --> 00:43:00,021
accepting how
we cannot change our past
969
00:43:00,072 --> 00:43:02,524
but we can change our future.
970
00:43:02,575 --> 00:43:05,693
Carpenter: The problem is, when
you get into lean budget times,
971
00:43:05,745 --> 00:43:07,445
the public, the citizens
of Oklahoma,
972
00:43:07,530 --> 00:43:09,664
say, if we have to spend money
on something,
973
00:43:09,731 --> 00:43:12,500
let's spend money on fences,
handcuffs, cell doors,
974
00:43:12,568 --> 00:43:14,119
that kind of stuff.
975
00:43:14,203 --> 00:43:15,670
The rehabilitation programs
976
00:43:15,737 --> 00:43:18,289
are often the first thing
that get cut.
977
00:43:19,542 --> 00:43:21,593
Franklin: If we don't have
the resources available,
978
00:43:21,677 --> 00:43:24,095
that equates to not being able
to give an offender
979
00:43:24,180 --> 00:43:25,680
a trade or a skill
980
00:43:25,747 --> 00:43:28,299
and they end up going right back
to the same deviant behavior
981
00:43:28,384 --> 00:43:30,301
on the outside.
982
00:43:36,926 --> 00:43:39,027
[Woman humming]
983
00:43:42,865 --> 00:43:50,865
Woman: � if I didn't care
more than words can say �
984
00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:56,294
� if I didn't care...
985
00:43:56,378 --> 00:43:57,912
Man: I'm Larry cearley.
986
00:43:57,963 --> 00:44:00,131
I'm the marshal here
in magdalena.
987
00:44:00,216 --> 00:44:04,302
Magdalena is a small spot
in the world.
988
00:44:04,386 --> 00:44:08,756
We're about 250 Miles
from the Mexican border.
989
00:44:08,808 --> 00:44:10,091
We have U.S. highway 60.
990
00:44:10,142 --> 00:44:12,010
That's a main corridor
for drugs.
991
00:44:12,094 --> 00:44:14,145
I need your driver's license,
please, and your insurance.
992
00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:16,764
Cearley: For the last 29 years
in working in law enforcement,
993
00:44:16,816 --> 00:44:19,517
the major thing that's changed
is the drug trafficking.
994
00:44:19,602 --> 00:44:20,852
What are you looking
for, those drug guys?
995
00:44:20,936 --> 00:44:23,071
Anything, everything.
996
00:44:23,138 --> 00:44:25,106
[Baa]
997
00:44:25,157 --> 00:44:27,141
Narrator: At first glance,
998
00:44:27,193 --> 00:44:30,278
marshal cearley seemed form
a bygone era of law enforcement.
999
00:44:30,329 --> 00:44:31,663
Cearley: I guess
I'm gonna portray myself
1000
00:44:31,747 --> 00:44:32,813
as that kind of person,
1001
00:44:32,865 --> 00:44:36,367
a man with a white hat
riding old silver.
1002
00:44:36,452 --> 00:44:38,670
Narrator:
But as enforcing drug laws
1003
00:44:38,754 --> 00:44:41,840
has become the primary focus
for police across the country,
1004
00:44:41,924 --> 00:44:44,092
the nature of his work
as a small town marshal
1005
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:45,877
has changed as well.
1006
00:44:45,961 --> 00:44:47,011
Cearley: You got that?
1007
00:44:47,096 --> 00:44:49,430
2 hispanic males in a car,
dark, tinted windows,
1008
00:44:49,498 --> 00:44:50,498
we want it on that side
of the road.
1009
00:44:50,549 --> 00:44:51,832
Yeah. Ok.
1010
00:44:51,884 --> 00:44:52,767
What are you gonna tell her?
1011
00:44:52,834 --> 00:44:53,852
She knows you're going to jail.
1012
00:44:53,936 --> 00:44:55,303
Go ahead and put him
in the car.
1013
00:44:55,354 --> 00:44:57,138
Ok if I check in there
a little bit more?
1014
00:44:57,189 --> 00:44:58,273
Got some marijuana here.
1015
00:44:58,340 --> 00:45:00,174
Ed, you arrest both these people
and tow his car.
1016
00:45:00,226 --> 00:45:02,644
That's what we're gonna do.
1017
00:45:02,695 --> 00:45:04,312
We're fishing.
1018
00:45:04,363 --> 00:45:07,398
We're fishing,
but we're there again.
1019
00:45:07,483 --> 00:45:09,951
I mean, you look at trucks
like this truck here,
1020
00:45:10,018 --> 00:45:12,120
that's an Arizona truck,
1021
00:45:12,187 --> 00:45:13,655
somebody that's not gonna stop
and get a motel room,
1022
00:45:13,706 --> 00:45:15,907
somebody that's been driving
for 24 hours.
1023
00:45:15,991 --> 00:45:18,910
Because they don't want
to get caught.
1024
00:45:18,994 --> 00:45:20,695
This is telling me
that this person right here
1025
00:45:20,746 --> 00:45:22,080
could be a drug trafficker.
1026
00:45:22,164 --> 00:45:23,831
What's he doing
that's giving you
1027
00:45:23,883 --> 00:45:25,667
that impression?
1028
00:45:25,718 --> 00:45:29,504
The truck and fast food.
1029
00:45:31,039 --> 00:45:33,424
It's supposed to be
illegal to profile,
1030
00:45:33,509 --> 00:45:35,376
but you kind of,
after working so long,
1031
00:45:35,427 --> 00:45:39,063
you kind of know
who's doing something.
1032
00:45:39,148 --> 00:45:40,765
So is it sort of phony
1033
00:45:40,849 --> 00:45:42,383
when people say
they don't profile?
1034
00:45:42,434 --> 00:45:45,153
Oh, it's all phony.
It's all phony.
1035
00:45:45,220 --> 00:45:46,271
If you don't profile vehicles,
1036
00:45:46,355 --> 00:45:47,572
you're not in law enforcement.
1037
00:45:47,656 --> 00:45:51,276
That's the way it is, man,
you know, you know?
1038
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,610
Come on.
1039
00:45:52,695 --> 00:45:54,162
Ok, now what about
profiling people?
1040
00:45:54,229 --> 00:45:55,530
Profiling people, same thing.
1041
00:45:55,581 --> 00:45:56,781
That's what we have.
1042
00:45:56,865 --> 00:46:00,168
Simon: We like to believe
that the drug war
1043
00:46:00,235 --> 00:46:01,902
has given law enforcement
all of these tools,
1044
00:46:01,954 --> 00:46:04,672
all of this authority
in which to pursue
1045
00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:06,124
criminality and gangsterism,
1046
00:46:06,208 --> 00:46:08,176
but actually what it did was
1047
00:46:08,243 --> 00:46:11,078
it basically destroyed
the police deterrent
1048
00:46:11,130 --> 00:46:14,882
in a very subtle
and unintended way.
1049
00:46:18,137 --> 00:46:20,138
Going up to 15th street
and Dixie.
1050
00:46:20,222 --> 00:46:21,773
He's gonna have some crack
for him
1051
00:46:21,857 --> 00:46:23,725
and some oxycodone pills.
1052
00:46:23,776 --> 00:46:26,427
Man: Joe and I are both
sergeants in Miami narcotics,
1053
00:46:26,478 --> 00:46:29,263
and we don't do
street level drug deals.
1054
00:46:29,315 --> 00:46:31,032
We do larger quantity cases.
1055
00:46:31,099 --> 00:46:33,985
We're looking for the dealers
and the suppliers.
1056
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:36,571
Ok, deal is good, guys. Go in.
1057
00:46:36,622 --> 00:46:37,772
Narrator: A world away
from magdalena
1058
00:46:37,823 --> 00:46:39,123
in the streets of Miami,
1059
00:46:39,208 --> 00:46:41,075
I began to see the real impact
of the drug war
1060
00:46:41,126 --> 00:46:42,160
on law enforcement.
1061
00:46:42,244 --> 00:46:43,995
Start thinking about
why you're in handcuffs
1062
00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:46,280
and maybe you can
help yourself out, ok?
1063
00:46:46,332 --> 00:46:47,582
So what happened is
the second guy,
1064
00:46:47,633 --> 00:46:49,417
he's now running on foot.
1065
00:46:49,468 --> 00:46:51,868
Yeah, that's where... we believe
he might have gone in there.
1066
00:46:52,504 --> 00:46:53,838
I guess we're gonna
have to write this up
1067
00:46:53,922 --> 00:46:55,256
as a separate case.
1068
00:46:55,324 --> 00:46:57,759
Totally unrelated to
the original drug deal we did,
1069
00:46:57,810 --> 00:46:59,126
but we stumbled upon a house
1070
00:46:59,178 --> 00:47:00,961
where a couple of big stacks
of money,
1071
00:47:01,013 --> 00:47:02,430
a good amount of marijuana,
1072
00:47:02,481 --> 00:47:04,432
that's sometimes
how things happen.
1073
00:47:04,483 --> 00:47:06,818
You know,
they're not even planned.
1074
00:47:06,902 --> 00:47:09,354
Simon: Nobody respects good
police work more than me.
1075
00:47:09,438 --> 00:47:11,155
I spent more than a decade
covering it,
1076
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:13,157
and there are a lot of
detectives who I admire
1077
00:47:13,242 --> 00:47:15,159
for their professionalism,
for their craft.
1078
00:47:15,244 --> 00:47:16,644
Hey, what's up, can I help you?
1079
00:47:16,695 --> 00:47:17,978
No, officer.
1080
00:47:18,030 --> 00:47:19,480
Simon: The drug war
created an environment
1081
00:47:19,531 --> 00:47:21,666
in which none of that
was rewarded.
1082
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:23,251
Come on over here for a second.
1083
00:47:23,318 --> 00:47:24,252
Let's get his I.D.
1084
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:25,620
He's just cutting
through the yard.
1085
00:47:25,671 --> 00:47:27,538
A drug arrest
does not require anything
1086
00:47:27,623 --> 00:47:28,923
other than getting out
of your radio car
1087
00:47:28,990 --> 00:47:32,660
and jacking people up against
the side of a liquor store.
1088
00:47:32,711 --> 00:47:35,380
Probable cause?
Are you kidding?
1089
00:47:35,464 --> 00:47:36,764
I don't want to say
a majority of the people,
1090
00:47:36,832 --> 00:47:39,350
but there's a good number
of people probably in this area
1091
00:47:39,435 --> 00:47:41,602
that are also involved
in drug dealing.
1092
00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:44,939
The problem is there's
a real tendency
1093
00:47:45,006 --> 00:47:47,558
on the part of law enforcement
to think geographically.
1094
00:47:47,643 --> 00:47:51,112
To go throw resources
at an area.
1095
00:47:51,179 --> 00:47:53,781
It's fish in a barrel
for law enforcement.
1096
00:47:53,849 --> 00:47:55,450
Anytime you need to make
an arrest,
1097
00:47:55,517 --> 00:47:56,784
you troll through there.
1098
00:47:56,852 --> 00:47:59,904
Everybody committing crimes
in that area gets arrested,
1099
00:47:59,988 --> 00:48:02,290
people who are in the area
who aren't committing crimes
1100
00:48:02,357 --> 00:48:03,908
get stopped.
1101
00:48:03,992 --> 00:48:06,360
It makes everybody angry.
1102
00:48:07,963 --> 00:48:10,030
Narrator: Watching arrest
after arrest,
1103
00:48:10,082 --> 00:48:11,799
I began to see
for the first time
1104
00:48:11,867 --> 00:48:13,418
the destructive impact
of drug laws
1105
00:48:13,502 --> 00:48:15,386
no only on those they target,
1106
00:48:15,471 --> 00:48:17,872
but on those who enforce them
as well.
1107
00:48:19,058 --> 00:48:20,308
Simon:
The problem is that that cop
1108
00:48:20,375 --> 00:48:21,655
that made that
cheap drug arrest,
1109
00:48:21,677 --> 00:48:23,428
he's gonna get paid.
1110
00:48:23,512 --> 00:48:25,680
He's gonna get
the hours of overtime
1111
00:48:25,731 --> 00:48:27,982
for taking the drugs down
e.C.U.
1112
00:48:28,050 --> 00:48:30,268
He's gonna get paid for
processing the prisoner
1113
00:48:30,352 --> 00:48:31,769
down in central booking.
1114
00:48:31,854 --> 00:48:33,604
He's gonna get paid for
sitting back at his desk
1115
00:48:33,689 --> 00:48:36,023
and writing the paperwork
for a couple hours,
1116
00:48:36,075 --> 00:48:39,226
and he's gonna do that 40, 50,
60 times a month,
1117
00:48:39,278 --> 00:48:41,529
so that his base pay
might end up being
1118
00:48:41,580 --> 00:48:44,165
only half of what he's paid
as a police officer.
1119
00:48:44,232 --> 00:48:46,400
The most important thing,
right here.
1120
00:48:49,004 --> 00:48:51,005
We're paying a guy for stats.
1121
00:48:51,072 --> 00:48:52,290
You can leave them here
1122
00:48:52,374 --> 00:48:54,374
and then we can go back out
and do this other deal.
1123
00:48:54,409 --> 00:48:57,211
Simon: Compare that guy
to the 1 guy doing police work
1124
00:48:57,262 --> 00:49:00,965
solving a murder, a rape,
a robbery, a burglary,
1125
00:49:01,049 --> 00:49:03,134
if he gets lucky, he makes
1 arrest for the month.
1126
00:49:03,218 --> 00:49:05,553
He gets 1 slip signed.
1127
00:49:05,604 --> 00:49:07,855
And at the end of the month
when they look and they see
1128
00:49:07,923 --> 00:49:10,942
officer a, he made 60 arrests.
1129
00:49:11,026 --> 00:49:13,611
Officer b made 1 arrest.
1130
00:49:13,695 --> 00:49:15,530
Who do you think they make
the sergeant?
1131
00:49:15,597 --> 00:49:18,116
Ok, let's move in,
guys, move in.
1132
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,568
In a city like, say, Baltimore,
where I'm from,
1133
00:49:20,619 --> 00:49:23,287
our percentage of arrest for
murder, for rape and robbery
1134
00:49:23,372 --> 00:49:25,606
are half of what they once were.
1135
00:49:25,657 --> 00:49:28,826
Our drug arrest stats are
twice of what they once were.
1136
00:49:28,911 --> 00:49:29,827
So what does that do?
1137
00:49:29,912 --> 00:49:31,212
It makes the city unlivable.
1138
00:49:31,279 --> 00:49:34,715
It makes a police department
where nobody can solve a crime.
1139
00:49:34,783 --> 00:49:36,634
Narrator: Beyond the incentives
that exist
1140
00:49:36,718 --> 00:49:38,285
for individual officers,
1141
00:49:38,337 --> 00:49:40,004
it turns out
that whole departments
1142
00:49:40,088 --> 00:49:42,723
have a monetary interest
in increased drug arrests.
1143
00:49:42,791 --> 00:49:45,143
Alexander:
Most people don't realize
1144
00:49:45,227 --> 00:49:48,029
that the financial incentives
built into the system
1145
00:49:48,096 --> 00:49:51,132
virtually guarantee that
the overwhelming majority
1146
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,867
of drug arrests
in the United States
1147
00:49:52,935 --> 00:49:56,971
will be for nonviolent,
low-level drug offenses.
1148
00:49:57,022 --> 00:49:59,640
Cuneen: A couple months ago
we did a 2-day operation.
1149
00:49:59,691 --> 00:50:01,642
We arrested over 200 people,
1150
00:50:01,693 --> 00:50:03,911
the majority of them
for selling drugs.
1151
00:50:03,979 --> 00:50:06,080
A lot of the money
comes out of seizures
1152
00:50:06,147 --> 00:50:07,915
from the drug profits
1153
00:50:07,983 --> 00:50:11,619
that the bigger players
are making off of this.
1154
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:14,789
So I guess that money
being put to good use.
1155
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,991
Man: So we get all their money?
1156
00:50:17,042 --> 00:50:19,377
That money is ours now.
That's my money now.
1157
00:50:19,461 --> 00:50:21,161
If I leave this room
1158
00:50:21,213 --> 00:50:23,264
and I go out there
and get in my old truck,
1159
00:50:23,331 --> 00:50:26,767
and I drive down the highway
with $5,000 cash
1160
00:50:26,835 --> 00:50:28,719
in pocket that I earned,
1161
00:50:28,804 --> 00:50:31,522
and if I'm pulled over
by a state trooper who says,
1162
00:50:31,607 --> 00:50:34,609
oh, you have a defective
taillight or something,
1163
00:50:34,676 --> 00:50:38,729
they can take that 5 grand,
never charge me with a crime,
1164
00:50:38,814 --> 00:50:40,231
take my old truck to boot,
1165
00:50:40,315 --> 00:50:41,816
keep 'em forever.
1166
00:50:41,867 --> 00:50:44,351
It's called recoup.
Civil asset seizure.
1167
00:50:44,403 --> 00:50:47,655
It goes on every day in counties
all over this country.
1168
00:50:47,706 --> 00:50:49,040
Hey, can we get...
1169
00:50:49,124 --> 00:50:53,127
somebody get a tow slip for this
fine piece of machinery?
1170
00:50:53,194 --> 00:50:56,080
Cearley: Yeah. See,
like, there's $118,000.
1171
00:50:56,164 --> 00:50:58,299
I pulled over right here,
and we arrested the guy.
1172
00:50:58,366 --> 00:51:01,636
There's the 25,000 I got
out of that seizure.
1173
00:51:01,703 --> 00:51:04,005
That's what we bought
this car for.
1174
00:51:04,056 --> 00:51:05,890
Ok, so the police department
1175
00:51:05,974 --> 00:51:08,009
operates on the money
it seizes?
1176
00:51:08,060 --> 00:51:10,595
Uh... Sometimes.
1177
00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:12,930
This is legal within
the state of new Mexico.
1178
00:51:13,015 --> 00:51:14,055
Man: It's allegedly legal.
1179
00:51:14,066 --> 00:51:15,066
No. It is legal.
1180
00:51:15,150 --> 00:51:16,350
If you're no getting
the point, I understand.
1181
00:51:16,401 --> 00:51:18,769
No, I am getting
the point! Probable cause.
1182
00:51:18,854 --> 00:51:20,021
Simon: What happens is
1183
00:51:20,072 --> 00:51:21,489
with every successive encounter,
1184
00:51:21,556 --> 00:51:23,658
between one of our drug warriors
1185
00:51:23,725 --> 00:51:25,225
and a citizen that goes awry...
1186
00:51:25,277 --> 00:51:27,227
Man: The people around here
mind their own business!
1187
00:51:27,279 --> 00:51:30,114
Respect for cops and the laws
they're trying to enforce
1188
00:51:30,198 --> 00:51:31,532
is lost.
1189
00:51:31,583 --> 00:51:33,834
Cearley: The guy was upset
because he was saying
1190
00:51:33,902 --> 00:51:34,952
we were stopping him illegally,
1191
00:51:35,037 --> 00:51:36,737
it was unconstitutional.
1192
00:51:36,788 --> 00:51:39,674
He feels like
he's been violated.
1193
00:51:39,741 --> 00:51:45,012
Is that fair? Maybe not.
But I have a job to do.
1194
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,000
Narrator: Despite their
commitment to their work,
1195
00:51:47,049 --> 00:51:49,083
officers I spoke to
across the country
1196
00:51:49,134 --> 00:51:51,719
expressed growing concern not
only about the effectiveness
1197
00:51:51,770 --> 00:51:53,971
of drug laws, but about
their larger impact
1198
00:51:54,056 --> 00:51:56,724
on the relationship
between police and the public.
1199
00:51:56,775 --> 00:51:58,476
It's one of the biggest hurdles,
you know,
1200
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,445
how much time the community
has spent
1201
00:52:01,530 --> 00:52:05,783
feeling like they
couldn't trust the police.
1202
00:52:10,205 --> 00:52:12,606
Narrator: In Providence,
officers who 20 years ago
1203
00:52:12,658 --> 00:52:15,576
appeared on TV as the picture
of tough-on-crime cops...
1204
00:52:15,627 --> 00:52:17,161
7-1. It's got tinted windows...
1205
00:52:17,245 --> 00:52:20,114
Today seem conflicted over
how things got where they are
1206
00:52:20,165 --> 00:52:22,416
and what a better approach
might look like.
1207
00:52:22,467 --> 00:52:26,620
If you gonna go out there
and go and cause chaos,
1208
00:52:26,672 --> 00:52:28,789
then why don't we put you
in a structured program?
1209
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,675
And the military's
a structured program,
1210
00:52:30,759 --> 00:52:34,145
send 'em to boot camp, see how
they make out in boot camp.
1211
00:52:34,229 --> 00:52:35,179
National service.
1212
00:52:35,263 --> 00:52:36,764
National service?
1213
00:52:38,183 --> 00:52:39,850
Zuena: I mean, we're doing
our part out here,
1214
00:52:39,935 --> 00:52:41,652
and it's frustrating
a lot for us
1215
00:52:41,737 --> 00:52:44,855
because it just seems like
because they're addicts,
1216
00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:47,191
they find themselves
committing the same crime
1217
00:52:47,275 --> 00:52:49,694
that just put them in the jail,
say, you know,
1218
00:52:49,778 --> 00:52:52,312
a week or so Friday.
1219
00:52:52,364 --> 00:52:53,313
Hold on a second.
1220
00:52:53,365 --> 00:52:54,365
All right, whoa.
1221
00:52:54,449 --> 00:52:57,151
What's going on?
Let me see you I.D., please.
1222
00:52:57,202 --> 00:52:58,169
Let me see your I.D.
1223
00:52:58,253 --> 00:52:59,486
My I.D.?
1224
00:52:59,538 --> 00:53:00,588
Zuena: Come on,
some responsibilities
1225
00:53:00,655 --> 00:53:02,456
go back to the parents.
1226
00:53:02,507 --> 00:53:03,824
Listen, straighten
your kid out.
1227
00:53:03,875 --> 00:53:06,794
Well, that's easier
said than done
1228
00:53:06,845 --> 00:53:09,930
when you have absentee parents.
1229
00:53:09,998 --> 00:53:11,349
What? You want...
1230
00:53:11,433 --> 00:53:12,767
relax, man, relax.
1231
00:53:12,834 --> 00:53:16,003
Some of these households
the father is nonexistent,
1232
00:53:16,054 --> 00:53:18,839
the mother is trying
to raise a family.
1233
00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:21,525
Those kids, the percentage of
kids that break out of that
1234
00:53:21,610 --> 00:53:22,893
is really low.
1235
00:53:22,978 --> 00:53:25,980
Please. It's not me.
1236
00:53:26,031 --> 00:53:28,649
Zuena: I'll tell you
what else bothers me.
1237
00:53:28,700 --> 00:53:32,119
If you keep having kids,
and you can't afford them,
1238
00:53:32,187 --> 00:53:33,520
you know what?
1239
00:53:33,572 --> 00:53:36,857
You got to have a certain
responsibility.
1240
00:53:36,908 --> 00:53:39,293
I'm not saying to
frigging control or spay 'em,
1241
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,296
but Christ,
[indistinct] You know?
1242
00:53:42,363 --> 00:53:43,697
But come on.
1243
00:53:43,749 --> 00:53:47,868
It's... Jesus. Ha ha.
1244
00:53:47,919 --> 00:53:49,036
What they should do,
1245
00:53:49,087 --> 00:53:50,588
I'd pay 'em, like,
$5,000 or $10,000
1246
00:53:50,672 --> 00:53:52,973
to get like a vasectomy
or something.
1247
00:53:53,041 --> 00:53:54,308
Ha ha!
1248
00:53:54,375 --> 00:53:56,093
Cheaper in the long run.
1249
00:53:56,178 --> 00:53:57,311
Ha ha!
1250
00:53:57,378 --> 00:53:59,713
Why are you laughing?
1251
00:53:59,765 --> 00:54:02,316
Man: Everybody's here
but the police,
1252
00:54:02,383 --> 00:54:03,517
and they'll be here any minute.
1253
00:54:03,568 --> 00:54:05,352
Narrator: Watching
seasoned drug warriors
1254
00:54:05,404 --> 00:54:07,988
struggle for answers to what
they see as an unwinnable war...
1255
00:54:08,056 --> 00:54:09,824
Cuneen: We're actually
doing them a favor,
1256
00:54:09,891 --> 00:54:11,492
getting them in
out of the cold,
1257
00:54:11,559 --> 00:54:13,411
narrator: I wondered what it was
about drugs
1258
00:54:13,495 --> 00:54:16,730
that made them such a perceived
danger in the first place.
1259
00:54:16,782 --> 00:54:19,450
Bowden: You have to understand
the war on drugs
1260
00:54:19,534 --> 00:54:22,236
has never been about drugs.
1261
00:54:25,173 --> 00:54:26,624
Newscaster: U.S. customs
officers and police
1262
00:54:26,708 --> 00:54:29,043
are having another drive
to round up dope smugglers.
1263
00:54:29,094 --> 00:54:31,378
There's millions of dollars
worth of deadly heroin,
1264
00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:33,964
enough they say to kill
6 million people.
1265
00:54:34,049 --> 00:54:36,267
Narrator: Looking to find out
more about the longer history
1266
00:54:36,351 --> 00:54:39,386
of drugs in America,
I found an unlikely source
1267
00:54:39,438 --> 00:54:41,772
in Lincoln historian
Richard Miller.
1268
00:54:41,857 --> 00:54:46,560
His research put drugs laws in a
fascinating historical context.
1269
00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:50,314
Man: Historically anti-drug laws
1270
00:54:50,398 --> 00:54:52,983
have always been associated
with race.
1271
00:54:54,703 --> 00:54:58,572
In the 1800s, certain kinds of
drugs that are illicit today
1272
00:54:58,623 --> 00:55:00,324
were common in this country.
1273
00:55:00,408 --> 00:55:04,795
Cocaine was widely used,
heroin.
1274
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,281
People using drugs,
it was something that was just
1275
00:55:07,332 --> 00:55:08,999
ordinarily accepted.
1276
00:55:09,084 --> 00:55:13,888
Opium, for example, was used by
middle-aged successful whites
1277
00:55:13,955 --> 00:55:16,340
often housewives in the South.
1278
00:55:16,424 --> 00:55:18,926
If people were addicted
or abusing drugs,
1279
00:55:18,977 --> 00:55:22,629
they were viewed sympathetically
as people who had to be helped.
1280
00:55:22,681 --> 00:55:26,817
It was seen as a public health
issue rather than a crime issue.
1281
00:55:26,902 --> 00:55:29,636
But one of the first changes
was on the west coast,
1282
00:55:29,688 --> 00:55:33,607
when smoking opium was made
a criminal offense.
1283
00:55:33,658 --> 00:55:36,994
Now, why would opium smoking
be illegal in California
1284
00:55:37,078 --> 00:55:38,496
but not in Mississippi?
1285
00:55:38,580 --> 00:55:39,997
What was going on in California
1286
00:55:40,081 --> 00:55:42,616
that was concerned about
smoking opium?
1287
00:55:42,667 --> 00:55:45,669
Well, as it turns out, it had
nothing to do with opium itself.
1288
00:55:45,754 --> 00:55:49,006
The concern was with the people
associated with smoking opium,
1289
00:55:49,090 --> 00:55:53,844
and that was the Chinese,
who had come to this country,
1290
00:55:53,929 --> 00:55:56,714
and many of whom were
in California working hard,
1291
00:55:56,798 --> 00:55:58,933
working for very little pay,
1292
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,769
and becoming part of
the American success story.
1293
00:56:01,836 --> 00:56:06,607
But their success was taking
jobs away from white workers.
1294
00:56:06,674 --> 00:56:09,810
So politicians got together
and decided,
1295
00:56:09,861 --> 00:56:11,345
"we got to find something
about the Chinese
1296
00:56:11,396 --> 00:56:12,563
"for which they can be
criminalized
1297
00:56:12,647 --> 00:56:14,899
to get them out of the way."
1298
00:56:14,983 --> 00:56:17,451
Now, of course you can't
throw people in jail
1299
00:56:17,518 --> 00:56:19,653
simply because they're Chinese,
1300
00:56:19,704 --> 00:56:23,207
but you can throw 'em in jail
because they smoke opium.
1301
00:56:24,525 --> 00:56:27,711
In the same way we saw things
going on with cocaine.
1302
00:56:27,796 --> 00:56:29,663
Again, it was middle-aged
successful people
1303
00:56:29,714 --> 00:56:31,698
in this country,
business executives,
1304
00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:35,169
physicians, housewives,
all perfectly legal,
1305
00:56:35,220 --> 00:56:36,971
but then around
the turn of the century,
1306
00:56:37,038 --> 00:56:39,890
cocaine began being associated
with blacks.
1307
00:56:39,975 --> 00:56:42,142
They could withstand police
bullets, it was thought.
1308
00:56:42,210 --> 00:56:45,646
They can work hard all day,
all night long and all day long,
1309
00:56:45,713 --> 00:56:47,848
again threatening the jobs
of white workers,
1310
00:56:47,899 --> 00:56:51,652
and so laws began to be passed
against cocaine.
1311
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,520
You're not arresting
these people officially
1312
00:56:53,572 --> 00:56:54,822
because they're black;
1313
00:56:54,889 --> 00:56:56,440
You're arresting them
because they've committed
1314
00:56:56,524 --> 00:56:58,108
some sort of drug violation.
1315
00:56:58,193 --> 00:57:01,111
Next of course we see a change
in reputation of hemp
1316
00:57:01,196 --> 00:57:02,830
in this ad,
1317
00:57:02,897 --> 00:57:06,116
hemp was a legitimate crop
from colonial times forward,
1318
00:57:06,201 --> 00:57:08,335
a widely appreciated
commercial product,
1319
00:57:08,403 --> 00:57:11,705
but then in the 1930s,
it changed into something
1320
00:57:11,756 --> 00:57:14,091
vicious and fearful
called marijuana.
1321
00:57:14,175 --> 00:57:17,244
Because at that time marijuana
smoking was being associated
1322
00:57:17,295 --> 00:57:20,547
with Mexicans working hard,
working cheap,
1323
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:23,217
and once again what was being
outlawed was not being Mexican,
1324
00:57:23,268 --> 00:57:27,304
but just some habit
associated with Mexicans.
1325
00:57:27,389 --> 00:57:29,890
These laws set up
a very dangerous precedent
1326
00:57:29,941 --> 00:57:32,693
or racial control.
1327
00:57:34,279 --> 00:57:35,696
Narrator: It seemed
that time and again,
1328
00:57:35,763 --> 00:57:38,983
drug laws targeted any
immigrant group seen as a threat
1329
00:57:39,067 --> 00:57:40,951
to the established
economic order.
1330
00:57:41,036 --> 00:57:42,953
But how then
did black Americans,
1331
00:57:43,038 --> 00:57:45,239
who came to this country
over 200 years ago,
1332
00:57:45,290 --> 00:57:48,158
become the primary target of
drug laws in the modern era?
1333
00:57:48,243 --> 00:57:50,628
Simon: Well, the way to think
about African American history
1334
00:57:50,712 --> 00:57:53,547
in the 20th century is
as an immigrant story.
1335
00:57:53,614 --> 00:57:56,550
I mean, the transition
from the rural to the urban,
1336
00:57:56,617 --> 00:57:58,385
it's one of the great
mass migrations
1337
00:57:58,453 --> 00:57:59,970
in the history of the world.
1338
00:58:00,055 --> 00:58:03,474
Wilson:
When blacks came out of slavery,
1339
00:58:03,558 --> 00:58:05,509
they were heavily concentrated
in the South
1340
00:58:05,593 --> 00:58:07,478
in farming-type jobs.
1341
00:58:07,562 --> 00:58:10,297
As industries were expanding
in the north,
1342
00:58:10,348 --> 00:58:14,318
blacks were recruited
to come to work in factories.
1343
00:58:14,402 --> 00:58:16,854
This gave rise to
the great migration
1344
00:58:16,938 --> 00:58:20,574
of blacks flowing into
urban areas.
1345
00:58:20,641 --> 00:58:22,642
Narrator: Before she came
to work for my family,
1346
00:58:22,694 --> 00:58:25,112
nannie jeter had joined
the wave of black Americans
1347
00:58:25,163 --> 00:58:27,331
who had moved north
during the great migration.
1348
00:58:27,415 --> 00:58:29,416
She took me down
to her childhood home
1349
00:58:29,484 --> 00:58:30,834
in Southern Virginia.
1350
00:58:30,919 --> 00:58:33,504
Nannie: We grew up
running through the woods.
1351
00:58:33,588 --> 00:58:35,506
What a beautiful outside life.
1352
00:58:35,590 --> 00:58:37,624
The old victrola would play,
1353
00:58:37,676 --> 00:58:39,626
and somebody would square dance,
1354
00:58:39,678 --> 00:58:42,713
and it was a completely
different world.
1355
00:58:42,797 --> 00:58:44,831
I loved life in the South.
1356
00:58:44,883 --> 00:58:46,567
Now, in that environment
1357
00:58:46,634 --> 00:58:48,769
that seemed so
wonderful in the South,
1358
00:58:48,837 --> 00:58:52,072
why did you ever decide
you wanted to leave the South?
1359
00:58:54,008 --> 00:59:00,314
I'd left the South
because I had to.
1360
00:59:00,365 --> 00:59:03,984
Jim crow during that time,
you couldn't...
1361
00:59:04,035 --> 00:59:05,652
black people,
if they was raped,
1362
00:59:05,704 --> 00:59:08,021
they couldn't say
they was raped.
1363
00:59:08,073 --> 00:59:10,690
So you never hear the rape.
1364
00:59:10,742 --> 00:59:12,659
Only the white lady got raped.
1365
00:59:12,711 --> 00:59:14,828
But the black woman...
1366
00:59:14,879 --> 00:59:19,917
I was innocent, but people
didn't think I was innocent.
1367
00:59:20,001 --> 00:59:22,869
No one knew I was leaving.
1368
00:59:22,921 --> 00:59:26,256
I wanted to bring my children
up different.
1369
00:59:26,341 --> 00:59:29,059
North was the way out.
1370
00:59:29,144 --> 00:59:32,096
I thought it would make
a big difference.
1371
00:59:32,180 --> 00:59:35,766
Narrator: Nannie had never
spoken so openly about her past
1372
00:59:35,850 --> 00:59:39,019
and what it was that
had compelled her north.
1373
00:59:40,488 --> 00:59:42,439
But as I learned more
about her life,
1374
00:59:42,524 --> 00:59:44,558
I began to see the deeper roots
of the drug war
1375
00:59:44,609 --> 00:59:47,394
for black American families
like nannie's.
1376
00:59:47,445 --> 00:59:51,115
Sadly, what many of these
families came to find
1377
00:59:51,199 --> 00:59:55,452
is that they had not really
escaped Jim crow at all.
1378
00:59:55,537 --> 00:59:59,957
But found themselves in
a new system of racial control,
1379
01:00:00,041 --> 01:00:01,341
a new Jim crow.
1380
01:00:01,409 --> 01:00:05,095
Racially discriminatory laws
across America
1381
01:00:05,180 --> 01:00:09,633
ensured that poor people of
color migrating from the South
1382
01:00:09,717 --> 01:00:12,919
would be confined to
certain parts of the city
1383
01:00:12,971 --> 01:00:15,105
that we now think of as ghettos.
1384
01:00:15,190 --> 01:00:17,691
Simon:
Very few people know this,
1385
01:00:17,758 --> 01:00:19,259
but if you go back and you look
1386
01:00:19,310 --> 01:00:21,428
at how African American housing
patterns were established
1387
01:00:21,479 --> 01:00:23,230
in the '30s and '40s,
1388
01:00:23,281 --> 01:00:25,432
even as a result
of the new deal,
1389
01:00:25,483 --> 01:00:28,569
the fha, which was a Democratic
new deal program
1390
01:00:28,620 --> 01:00:30,821
to inspire home ownership
in the midst of the depression
1391
01:00:30,872 --> 01:00:33,707
did more to create ghettoes
than any other federal program
1392
01:00:33,774 --> 01:00:35,292
before or since.
1393
01:00:35,376 --> 01:00:37,110
Why? Because
when they were creating
1394
01:00:37,162 --> 01:00:39,379
the culture of home ownership
in America,
1395
01:00:39,447 --> 01:00:41,832
they were exclusionary
to black people.
1396
01:00:41,916 --> 01:00:44,077
They put them in the areas
that were maybe a little bit
1397
01:00:44,118 --> 01:00:47,838
economically depressed and
subject to heavy rentership,
1398
01:00:47,922 --> 01:00:50,641
and then the redlined
those areas,
1399
01:00:50,725 --> 01:00:52,342
and they would not write
fha mortgages
1400
01:00:52,427 --> 01:00:54,178
in those neighborhoods.
1401
01:00:54,262 --> 01:00:55,646
Once those areas were redlined,
1402
01:00:55,730 --> 01:00:57,898
that was basically a design
for a ghetto.
1403
01:00:57,965 --> 01:01:01,301
In 1950, people in these
neighborhoods were poor
1404
01:01:01,352 --> 01:01:03,020
but they had jobs.
1405
01:01:03,104 --> 01:01:06,773
By 1960, we're talking about
the jobless poor.
1406
01:01:06,825 --> 01:01:09,776
Because industries had moved out
of the inner city
1407
01:01:09,828 --> 01:01:13,497
leaving behind concentrated
populations of poor people,
1408
01:01:13,581 --> 01:01:17,084
vulnerable to drug trafficking
and all the other problems
1409
01:01:17,151 --> 01:01:19,670
associated with joblessness.
1410
01:01:19,754 --> 01:01:22,372
Simon: And what happens
when groups are denied access
1411
01:01:22,457 --> 01:01:25,709
to the core economic engines
in a society?
1412
01:01:25,793 --> 01:01:28,428
They create their own
out of prohibited economies.
1413
01:01:28,496 --> 01:01:30,514
That was true of the Italians
and the Irish
1414
01:01:30,598 --> 01:01:33,016
and the Jews and everybody else
who came to the cities
1415
01:01:33,101 --> 01:01:35,886
a generation before
African Americans arrived.
1416
01:01:35,970 --> 01:01:40,974
Nannie: In 1969, during that
time, I couldn't get a job.
1417
01:01:41,025 --> 01:01:42,643
It was like all the doors
were shut.
1418
01:01:42,694 --> 01:01:45,279
When I came to work
for your parents,
1419
01:01:45,346 --> 01:01:47,814
I was happy
just to have this job.
1420
01:01:47,866 --> 01:01:50,517
Narrator: Do you remember
this first time you saw me?
1421
01:01:50,568 --> 01:01:51,985
Mm-hmm. Yes.
1422
01:01:52,036 --> 01:01:54,071
You was about 3 days old
1423
01:01:54,155 --> 01:01:56,406
when your mom brought you home
from the hospital.
1424
01:01:56,491 --> 01:01:58,325
That was the first time
I seen you.
1425
01:01:58,376 --> 01:02:02,529
You were a beautiful baby
that I fell in love with.
1426
01:02:02,580 --> 01:02:04,581
And you became my baby.
1427
01:02:04,666 --> 01:02:06,500
I loved your family.
1428
01:02:06,551 --> 01:02:10,504
I guess I never dreamt that you
guys would ever leave new haven.
1429
01:02:10,555 --> 01:02:12,806
Narrator: I've always known
that when I was very young,
1430
01:02:12,873 --> 01:02:14,808
my family's circumstances
improved,
1431
01:02:14,875 --> 01:02:17,544
and we moved from Connecticut,
where my dad had been a doctor,
1432
01:02:17,595 --> 01:02:19,263
to a comfortable suburb
of New York City,
1433
01:02:19,347 --> 01:02:21,598
where he'd started
a successful business.
1434
01:02:21,683 --> 01:02:23,267
What I didn't know
1435
01:02:23,351 --> 01:02:25,619
was how this had impacted nannie
and her family.
1436
01:02:25,687 --> 01:02:27,554
Nannie: Your mom, she said,
1437
01:02:27,622 --> 01:02:31,325
"my husband's gonna double your
pay if you can go with us."
1438
01:02:31,392 --> 01:02:36,730
I felt more money would make
a better life for my family.
1439
01:02:36,798 --> 01:02:40,133
That was the wrong thing to do.
1440
01:02:40,201 --> 01:02:43,036
I was always working
in New York
1441
01:02:43,087 --> 01:02:45,756
whilst my kids
were in new haven.
1442
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:52,579
My youngest son, James, he
started smoking marijuana at 14,
1443
01:02:52,647 --> 01:02:57,450
and at 20 he started to really
go into drugs.
1444
01:02:57,585 --> 01:03:01,221
It is so amazing how
you spend your life providing,
1445
01:03:01,289 --> 01:03:05,058
loving your kids that you don't
see the mental part
1446
01:03:05,126 --> 01:03:07,694
that's going on in their life.
1447
01:03:07,762 --> 01:03:10,030
In turn, then you
look at white kids,
1448
01:03:10,097 --> 01:03:13,433
they have their parent
and they have a housekeeper
1449
01:03:13,484 --> 01:03:15,152
that loves them,
1450
01:03:15,236 --> 01:03:19,039
but yet still your kids
are most of the time alone.
1451
01:03:19,106 --> 01:03:22,242
Narrator: Then what
happened with James?
1452
01:03:22,293 --> 01:03:27,414
He got... Um...
1453
01:03:30,785 --> 01:03:33,620
He died with aids...
1454
01:03:33,671 --> 01:03:36,723
From used, you know, needles.
1455
01:03:39,060 --> 01:03:41,178
Narrator: As nannie and I
returned to new haven together,
1456
01:03:41,262 --> 01:03:43,630
I suddenly saw my birthplace
with new eyes.
1457
01:03:43,681 --> 01:03:45,899
Processing so much
I hadn't understood
1458
01:03:45,966 --> 01:03:49,269
about the intersection
of James' life and my own.
1459
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,022
But what else had I missed?
1460
01:03:52,106 --> 01:03:54,658
Growing up in the wake of
the civil rights movement,
1461
01:03:54,742 --> 01:03:56,476
I guess like many people
1462
01:03:56,527 --> 01:03:59,145
I imagined things were gonna
get better for black America,
1463
01:03:59,197 --> 01:04:01,314
but as it turned out,
in many ways,
1464
01:04:01,366 --> 01:04:03,417
the worst was yet to come.
1465
01:04:07,839 --> 01:04:10,257
Man: Growing up in Florida,
1466
01:04:10,324 --> 01:04:13,877
I remember thinking that I never
wanted to leave Florida.
1467
01:04:13,961 --> 01:04:15,662
I used to tell my friends,
1468
01:04:15,713 --> 01:04:18,298
like before we'd go out
and do some illegal activity,
1469
01:04:18,349 --> 01:04:20,684
I used to give them
a pep talk and say,
1470
01:04:20,768 --> 01:04:25,722
"you know, God is on our side
because he knows that we're poor
1471
01:04:25,807 --> 01:04:28,508
"and God wouldn't have us
be poor,
1472
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:30,227
so he understands
what we're doing."
1473
01:04:30,311 --> 01:04:33,697
And you know,
I actually believed that.
1474
01:04:38,653 --> 01:04:41,354
Narrator: Carl hart was part
of a generation of black men
1475
01:04:41,406 --> 01:04:44,074
who experienced first hand
the most dramatic escalation
1476
01:04:44,158 --> 01:04:46,460
of the drug war
in American history.
1477
01:04:46,527 --> 01:04:48,245
Today a Professor of psychology
1478
01:04:48,329 --> 01:04:50,247
at New York's
Columbia university,
1479
01:04:50,331 --> 01:04:52,382
his past experience
remains a driving force
1480
01:04:52,467 --> 01:04:53,700
in his work.
1481
01:04:53,751 --> 01:04:56,586
Hart: Growing up
in the 1970s and '80s,
1482
01:04:56,671 --> 01:04:58,889
man of my friends
and family members
1483
01:04:58,973 --> 01:05:00,974
got caught up in drug use.
1484
01:05:01,041 --> 01:05:04,428
So I was always interested
in drugs of abuse.
1485
01:05:04,512 --> 01:05:07,931
What I do today is that
I actually give people drugs
1486
01:05:08,015 --> 01:05:10,216
in the laboratory to study
the effects
1487
01:05:10,268 --> 01:05:13,437
of drugs like methamphetamine,
cocaine, marijuana.
1488
01:05:13,521 --> 01:05:15,021
Narrator: Though Carl's
academic research
1489
01:05:15,073 --> 01:05:16,857
is on the science
behind addiction,
1490
01:05:16,908 --> 01:05:20,077
his own experience has shown him
how often drug laws are shaped
1491
01:05:20,161 --> 01:05:23,563
less by scientific concern
than by political ones.
1492
01:05:23,614 --> 01:05:26,833
Hart: In the 1980s, like many
people in the black community,
1493
01:05:26,901 --> 01:05:30,236
I was concerned about the havoc
that drugs were wreaking
1494
01:05:30,288 --> 01:05:31,738
in our community
1495
01:05:31,789 --> 01:05:34,741
or the havoc that I thought
drugs were wreaking
1496
01:05:34,792 --> 01:05:36,376
in our community.
1497
01:05:36,427 --> 01:05:38,745
That brings us to the major
and sweeping effort
1498
01:05:38,796 --> 01:05:41,348
that I'm announcing
this morning.
1499
01:05:41,415 --> 01:05:43,600
Narrator: In the long history
of the drug war,
1500
01:05:43,684 --> 01:05:46,686
no single chapter would turn out
to impact black America
1501
01:05:46,754 --> 01:05:50,256
more deeply than the 8 years
of the Reagan presidency.
1502
01:05:50,308 --> 01:05:52,976
What do you do when someone
offers you drugs?
1503
01:05:53,060 --> 01:05:55,195
All: Just say no!
1504
01:05:55,262 --> 01:05:57,814
Narrator: While Nancy Reagan's
popular slogan "just say no"
1505
01:05:57,899 --> 01:06:01,034
took what would seem a motherly
approach to drug prevention,
1506
01:06:01,101 --> 01:06:03,487
her husband took
a far tougher approach.
1507
01:06:03,571 --> 01:06:06,957
Ronald Reagan: We will utilize
the FBI, the DEA, the IRS,
1508
01:06:07,041 --> 01:06:10,160
the atf, immigration
and naturalization service,
1509
01:06:10,244 --> 01:06:12,996
United States marshal services,
amd the coast guard.
1510
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,448
We intend to do
what is necessary
1511
01:06:15,516 --> 01:06:17,217
to end the drug menace
1512
01:06:17,284 --> 01:06:20,587
and to eliminate this dark,
evil enemy within.
1513
01:06:20,638 --> 01:06:23,423
[Child yelling in spanish]
1514
01:06:27,929 --> 01:06:30,263
Alexander: When Reagan announced
that he was planning
1515
01:06:30,314 --> 01:06:32,933
to rev up the drug war
more than ever,
1516
01:06:32,984 --> 01:06:35,018
it was political opportunity
1517
01:06:35,102 --> 01:06:37,487
because at the time drug crime
was actually on the decline,
1518
01:06:37,572 --> 01:06:38,822
not on the rise.
1519
01:06:38,906 --> 01:06:41,525
Less than 2%
of the American population
1520
01:06:41,609 --> 01:06:45,478
even identifies drugs as
the nation's top priority.
1521
01:06:45,530 --> 01:06:48,314
But then of course
they got lucky.
1522
01:06:49,584 --> 01:06:51,084
Crack cocaine.
1523
01:06:51,151 --> 01:06:54,204
Crack, the super addictive
and deadly cocaine concentrate.
1524
01:06:54,288 --> 01:06:57,824
Crack hit the streets, and
suddenly there was just hysteria
1525
01:06:57,875 --> 01:07:01,995
about this brand-new
demon-like form of cocaine.
1526
01:07:02,046 --> 01:07:05,632
Reagan: Today, there's a new
epidemic... smokeable cocaine...
1527
01:07:05,683 --> 01:07:07,717
otherwise known as crack.
1528
01:07:07,802 --> 01:07:10,020
It is an uncontrolled fire.
1529
01:07:10,104 --> 01:07:11,188
Go, go, go, go!
1530
01:07:11,272 --> 01:07:12,639
Police!
1531
01:07:12,690 --> 01:07:14,140
Reagan: The American people want
their government to get tough
1532
01:07:14,192 --> 01:07:15,442
and to go on the offensive.
1533
01:07:15,509 --> 01:07:18,344
And that's exactly
what we intend
1534
01:07:18,396 --> 01:07:20,680
with more ferocity
than ever before.
1535
01:07:20,731 --> 01:07:21,848
Freeze!
1536
01:07:21,899 --> 01:07:23,817
Police! Freeze!
1537
01:07:23,868 --> 01:07:25,235
There's your crack.
1538
01:07:25,319 --> 01:07:28,121
Newscaster: If smaller cities
don't have a crack crisis now,
1539
01:07:28,188 --> 01:07:29,623
they will soon.
1540
01:07:29,690 --> 01:07:31,992
Woman: They're just carrying on
like it's their living room,
1541
01:07:32,043 --> 01:07:35,045
like this is their home,
like they belong here.
1542
01:07:35,129 --> 01:07:36,746
They don't belong here.
1543
01:07:36,831 --> 01:07:41,635
Hart: What we saw were images
of black urbanites on TV
1544
01:07:41,702 --> 01:07:45,572
smoking crack cocaine
over and over and over.
1545
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,342
And then these incredible
stories were associated with
1546
01:07:49,393 --> 01:07:51,845
crack cocaine
and they were taken as fact.
1547
01:07:51,896 --> 01:07:53,480
Newscaster:
The drug so powerful,
1548
01:07:53,547 --> 01:07:55,815
it will empty the money
from your pockets,
1549
01:07:55,883 --> 01:07:58,268
make you sell the watch
off your wrist,
1550
01:07:58,352 --> 01:08:00,219
the clothes off your back.
1551
01:08:00,271 --> 01:08:01,988
Or kill your mother.
1552
01:08:02,056 --> 01:08:04,407
Yeah. That's what we're seeing.
1553
01:08:04,492 --> 01:08:07,110
Hart: But if you go back
to the 1920s and the '30s,
1554
01:08:07,194 --> 01:08:09,329
this is what people were saying
about marijuana.
1555
01:08:09,396 --> 01:08:11,414
Man: As elvin takes that
frying pan from the stove
1556
01:08:11,499 --> 01:08:13,450
and kills his mother with it.
1557
01:08:13,534 --> 01:08:15,502
Not a very nice thing
to look at,
1558
01:08:15,569 --> 01:08:17,003
but this is marijuana.
1559
01:08:17,071 --> 01:08:18,788
Hart: If you say that now
in our society,
1560
01:08:18,873 --> 01:08:21,007
people will look at you
like you're crazy,
1561
01:08:21,075 --> 01:08:24,761
but whenever you have a new drug
introduced into society,
1562
01:08:24,845 --> 01:08:27,347
you can say incredible things
about that drug
1563
01:08:27,414 --> 01:08:29,082
and people will believe you.
1564
01:08:29,133 --> 01:08:31,918
Tip o'Neil:
Our society is now infested
1565
01:08:31,969 --> 01:08:34,020
with drug abusers.
1566
01:08:34,088 --> 01:08:37,090
Man: There was a tremendous fear
of this epidemic
1567
01:08:37,141 --> 01:08:38,642
that was gonna overcome
all of us,
1568
01:08:38,726 --> 01:08:41,728
not only with drug addiction,
1569
01:08:41,779 --> 01:08:45,165
but the violence in turn that
was gonna come out of this
1570
01:08:45,232 --> 01:08:47,433
and tremendous fear
led to this view
1571
01:08:47,485 --> 01:08:49,202
that the criminal laws
would save us.
1572
01:08:49,269 --> 01:08:52,322
Mauer: Democrats as well
as Republicans got on board
1573
01:08:52,406 --> 01:08:56,242
to pass a whole new generation
of mandatory sentencing laws.
1574
01:08:56,294 --> 01:08:59,296
These laws raced through
congress in record time.
1575
01:08:59,380 --> 01:09:01,131
There were virtually
no hearings held,
1576
01:09:01,215 --> 01:09:04,801
no consultation with experts who
knew something about drug abuse.
1577
01:09:04,885 --> 01:09:08,171
Man: The yeas are 97,
the nays are 2.
1578
01:09:08,255 --> 01:09:09,673
This is something
that had to be dealt with,
1579
01:09:09,757 --> 01:09:11,641
and of course, you know,
election year fever
1580
01:09:11,726 --> 01:09:13,893
did take hold of some people.
1581
01:09:13,961 --> 01:09:15,795
Narrator:
With overwhelming support,
1582
01:09:15,846 --> 01:09:18,898
Ronald Reagan signed into law
an unprecedented array
1583
01:09:18,966 --> 01:09:21,851
of mandatory minimum sentences
for drug crimes.
1584
01:09:21,936 --> 01:09:25,522
But no drug would receive
harsher penalties than crack.
1585
01:09:25,606 --> 01:09:27,440
The penalties were outrageous.
1586
01:09:27,491 --> 01:09:30,243
That is, the penalty
for crack cocaine
1587
01:09:30,310 --> 01:09:33,813
was made 100 times more punitive
than for powder cocaine.
1588
01:09:33,864 --> 01:09:35,915
Newscaster: The acceptance
of coke is widespread,
1589
01:09:35,983 --> 01:09:37,784
commonplace among professionals.
1590
01:09:37,835 --> 01:09:39,475
Ogletree: Whites were using
powder cocaine
1591
01:09:39,503 --> 01:09:41,988
in boardrooms,
in suburban America;
1592
01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:44,708
Blacks were using crack cocaine
in public housing
1593
01:09:44,792 --> 01:09:46,042
and on the street,
1594
01:09:46,127 --> 01:09:47,544
and what's the response?
1595
01:09:47,628 --> 01:09:49,713
Just wiped me out, straight off
the map for nothing.
1596
01:09:49,797 --> 01:09:52,132
57 years for this small rock,
you know.
1597
01:09:52,183 --> 01:09:53,550
You know what I'm saying?
1598
01:09:53,634 --> 01:09:55,501
I want to know why I'm being
like I murdered somebody,
1599
01:09:55,553 --> 01:09:56,770
you know.
1600
01:09:56,837 --> 01:09:58,337
Narrator: Over time
as the number of blacks
1601
01:09:58,389 --> 01:10:00,857
in America's prisons for
drug crimes skyrocketed
1602
01:10:00,941 --> 01:10:02,692
for outpacing
the number of whites,
1603
01:10:02,777 --> 01:10:04,944
many people,
including many judges,
1604
01:10:05,012 --> 01:10:07,513
began to question
the disparity in sentencing
1605
01:10:07,565 --> 01:10:09,015
between crack and powder.
1606
01:10:09,066 --> 01:10:11,117
Bennett:
Well, that's the major reason
1607
01:10:11,185 --> 01:10:13,536
why we agreed to be interviewed.
1608
01:10:13,621 --> 01:10:17,707
In my view, it is not fair
to have a 100:1 disparity
1609
01:10:17,792 --> 01:10:21,244
in the difference between powder
cocaine and crack cocaine,
1610
01:10:21,328 --> 01:10:22,996
and let me explain
what that means.
1611
01:10:23,047 --> 01:10:27,634
A crack defendant with 5 grams
of crack cocaine
1612
01:10:27,785 --> 01:10:31,904
is treated the same
as a powder cocaine defendant
1613
01:10:31,972 --> 01:10:33,757
with 100 times more weight.
1614
01:10:33,841 --> 01:10:37,727
In other words,
500 grams of powder cocaine.
1615
01:10:37,812 --> 01:10:39,729
And I don't think most people
realize this.
1616
01:10:39,814 --> 01:10:42,599
What is the difference
between powder cocaine
1617
01:10:42,683 --> 01:10:45,318
and crack cocaine? Do you know?
1618
01:10:45,385 --> 01:10:47,854
All crack cocaine
comes from powder cocaine.
1619
01:10:47,905 --> 01:10:53,326
The difference is you add
baking soda, water,
1620
01:10:53,393 --> 01:10:55,111
and heat from an oven.
1621
01:10:55,196 --> 01:10:57,197
That's the only difference.
1622
01:10:59,133 --> 01:11:00,667
Woman: I run a group called
1623
01:11:00,734 --> 01:11:02,368
families against
mandatory minimums.
1624
01:11:02,420 --> 01:11:04,454
I started it in 1991.
1625
01:11:04,538 --> 01:11:06,840
I think what I didn't know was
how incredibly hard it would be
1626
01:11:06,907 --> 01:11:08,174
to change the laws.
1627
01:11:08,242 --> 01:11:10,543
Narrator: Julie Stewart first
learned about the severity
1628
01:11:10,594 --> 01:11:13,630
of mandatory minimums when
a family member was picked up
1629
01:11:13,714 --> 01:11:15,849
on marijuana charges.
1630
01:11:15,916 --> 01:11:17,350
After my brother was arrested
1631
01:11:17,417 --> 01:11:19,302
and sentenced to
5 years in prison,
1632
01:11:19,386 --> 01:11:20,720
I started meeting other families
1633
01:11:20,771 --> 01:11:23,022
whose kids were in
for so much longer.
1634
01:11:23,090 --> 01:11:26,192
And I realized my brother was
lucky he only got 5 years.
1635
01:11:26,260 --> 01:11:29,446
Crack penalties are
ridiculously disproportionate
1636
01:11:29,530 --> 01:11:30,780
to all other drugs.
1637
01:11:30,865 --> 01:11:33,199
Narrator: In her fight against
mandatory minimums,
1638
01:11:33,267 --> 01:11:35,785
Julie took her cause to
the U.S. sentencing commission,
1639
01:11:35,870 --> 01:11:38,288
where she found a powerful
and unlikely ally.
1640
01:11:38,372 --> 01:11:39,873
I'm Billy Wilkins,
1641
01:11:39,940 --> 01:11:41,291
and I was the first
federal judge in the nation
1642
01:11:41,375 --> 01:11:43,776
selected by
president Ronald Reagan
1643
01:11:43,828 --> 01:11:45,545
to serve as the first chair of
1644
01:11:45,612 --> 01:11:47,580
the United States
sentencing commission.
1645
01:11:47,648 --> 01:11:49,549
Stewart: In 1995,
the sentencing commission
1646
01:11:49,617 --> 01:11:54,053
actually voted to make crack and
powder cocaine exactly the same.
1647
01:11:54,121 --> 01:11:56,289
Now, is crack a dangerous drug?
Yes, it is.
1648
01:11:56,357 --> 01:11:58,458
Is it highly addictive?
Yes, it is.
1649
01:11:58,526 --> 01:12:00,894
But the commission looked
at this on many occasions
1650
01:12:00,961 --> 01:12:05,648
and found that sentencing
crack cocaine 100:1 was unjust.
1651
01:12:05,733 --> 01:12:08,568
There can be no doubt
that the higher penalties
1652
01:12:08,636 --> 01:12:11,571
for crack offenders
falls disproportionately
1653
01:12:11,638 --> 01:12:13,690
on minority defendants.
1654
01:12:13,774 --> 01:12:16,826
51% of the crack is used
by the white population.
1655
01:12:16,911 --> 01:12:19,078
In Los Angeles, California,
1656
01:12:19,146 --> 01:12:23,983
there has not been 1
white conviction, not 1.
1657
01:12:24,034 --> 01:12:25,084
Narrator: Yet despite
the evidence
1658
01:12:25,152 --> 01:12:26,920
presented by judges and experts,
1659
01:12:26,987 --> 01:12:28,321
congress was unyielding,
1660
01:12:28,372 --> 01:12:31,508
insistent on maintaining
the crack/powder disparity.
1661
01:12:31,592 --> 01:12:33,843
I must just tell you
in my view at least
1662
01:12:33,928 --> 01:12:35,929
the findings are
very vulnerable.
1663
01:12:35,996 --> 01:12:38,181
These people are
killing our kids.
1664
01:12:38,265 --> 01:12:40,466
These people are
disrupting society.
1665
01:12:40,518 --> 01:12:43,903
These people are wrecking
our society.
1666
01:12:48,342 --> 01:12:49,526
[Gavel raps]
1667
01:12:49,610 --> 01:12:50,843
Woman: All rise.
1668
01:12:50,895 --> 01:12:53,012
United States district court
is now in session.
1669
01:12:53,063 --> 01:12:55,532
The honorable mark w. Bennett
presiding.
1670
01:12:55,616 --> 01:12:58,184
I don't think people understand
really how crucial this is,
1671
01:12:58,235 --> 01:13:01,687
how serious this is,
what's really going on.
1672
01:13:01,739 --> 01:13:03,823
Bennett:
Looking at Maurice's case today,
1673
01:13:03,874 --> 01:13:06,492
he's facing a double
mandatory minimum
1674
01:13:06,544 --> 01:13:08,578
from 10 years to 20 years.
1675
01:13:08,662 --> 01:13:10,630
Does he deserve
a 20-year sentence?
1676
01:13:10,697 --> 01:13:12,031
I don't think so.
1677
01:13:12,082 --> 01:13:15,134
Narrator: In 2005, after years
of concern from the bench
1678
01:13:15,202 --> 01:13:16,636
about unfair sentencing,
1679
01:13:16,703 --> 01:13:19,088
the supreme court ruled that
judges should be given back
1680
01:13:19,173 --> 01:13:21,057
a certain degree of discretion
1681
01:13:21,141 --> 01:13:23,209
to determine what
a fair sentence should be.
1682
01:13:23,260 --> 01:13:26,512
In response, judge Bennett
did something historic.
1683
01:13:26,564 --> 01:13:32,101
Yes, I'm the first United States
district court judge...
1684
01:13:32,186 --> 01:13:34,938
To do a 1:1 sentencing ratio
1685
01:13:35,022 --> 01:13:36,990
between crack
and powder cocaine.
1686
01:13:37,057 --> 01:13:38,441
Haltiwanger: Judge Bennett
gave me a 1:1 ratio
1687
01:13:38,525 --> 01:13:40,226
instead of 100:1.
1688
01:13:40,277 --> 01:13:42,495
So he took my guideline from,
like, 30 years
1689
01:13:42,562 --> 01:13:46,115
to, like, I think I was under
10 years or right at 10 years,
1690
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,952
but it didn't help.
1691
01:13:49,036 --> 01:13:51,087
Bennett:
In Maurice's case today,
1692
01:13:51,171 --> 01:13:54,090
the justice was trumped
by the mandatory minimum.
1693
01:13:54,174 --> 01:13:57,010
Narrator: Judge Bennett's
decision to use a 1:1 ratio
1694
01:13:57,077 --> 01:13:58,962
turns out to have been
largely symbolic
1695
01:13:59,046 --> 01:14:01,764
since congress' complex system
of mandatory minimums
1696
01:14:01,849 --> 01:14:03,182
has the final say.
1697
01:14:03,250 --> 01:14:05,551
Haltiwanger: The minimum
of conspiracy is 10 years,
1698
01:14:05,603 --> 01:14:08,771
and then with me having
a prior drug felony,
1699
01:14:08,856 --> 01:14:13,643
the minimum is 20 years, so I
got a 20-year sentence today.
1700
01:14:14,761 --> 01:14:15,979
Narrator: This has backfired.
1701
01:14:16,063 --> 01:14:17,146
I mean, if I go
around the country
1702
01:14:17,231 --> 01:14:18,398
and I see all
the people in jail
1703
01:14:18,449 --> 01:14:21,317
for unbelievable sentences,
how did this go wrong?
1704
01:14:21,402 --> 01:14:24,988
Well, I don't know
that it went wrong,
1705
01:14:25,072 --> 01:14:26,939
it just I guess
the system worked,
1706
01:14:26,991 --> 01:14:30,043
the system worked the way
congress planned for it to work.
1707
01:14:30,110 --> 01:14:32,078
They're not gonna come home
and campaign
1708
01:14:32,129 --> 01:14:35,131
on the fact that I'm
for more lenient sentences
1709
01:14:35,215 --> 01:14:36,716
for drug dealers.
1710
01:14:36,783 --> 01:14:39,168
Taking on the drug cartel
and winning the drug war!
1711
01:14:39,253 --> 01:14:40,503
Bennett: Just the opposite.
1712
01:14:40,587 --> 01:14:41,888
I'm gonna come home and campaign
1713
01:14:41,955 --> 01:14:43,790
that I want tough sentences
for drug dealers.
1714
01:14:43,857 --> 01:14:45,458
I just think we need
tougher sentencing.
1715
01:14:45,526 --> 01:14:47,860
Bennett: But whether congress
started out with race in mind
1716
01:14:47,928 --> 01:14:52,398
or not, it turns out in fact
and in practice
1717
01:14:52,466 --> 01:14:56,302
that minorities are targeted
by these mandatory minimums,
1718
01:14:56,353 --> 01:14:59,022
100:1 ratio,
more than others are,
1719
01:14:59,106 --> 01:15:00,857
and that's not good.
1720
01:15:00,941 --> 01:15:02,659
Stewart:
And it's very interesting,
1721
01:15:02,743 --> 01:15:05,144
because African Americans
do not use crack cocaine
1722
01:15:05,195 --> 01:15:07,363
any more than whites.
1723
01:15:07,448 --> 01:15:09,248
In fact, whites use it more.
1724
01:15:09,316 --> 01:15:12,785
African Americans make up 13%
of the population in the U.S.,
1725
01:15:12,936 --> 01:15:14,454
and they are about 13%
of the crack users.
1726
01:15:14,505 --> 01:15:17,423
In other words, the rest of
the users are white and brown,
1727
01:15:17,741 --> 01:15:19,592
which is kind of amazing
1728
01:15:19,659 --> 01:15:23,212
because 90% of the crack cocaine
defendants in the federal system
1729
01:15:23,214 --> 01:15:24,997
are African American.
1730
01:15:30,220 --> 01:15:33,473
Hart: I came back to South
Florida for multiple reasons.
1731
01:15:33,524 --> 01:15:36,893
To attend a scientific meeting.
1732
01:15:36,977 --> 01:15:40,513
And to attend
some court proceedings.
1733
01:15:40,564 --> 01:15:44,200
And of course I'm here to see my
family 'cause they're all here.
1734
01:15:44,284 --> 01:15:47,203
Narrator:
Like so many people I met
1735
01:15:47,287 --> 01:15:48,705
in the world of the drug war,
1736
01:15:48,789 --> 01:15:51,023
Carl hart's story turned out
to be far more complex
1737
01:15:51,075 --> 01:15:52,658
that I'd originally understood.
1738
01:15:52,710 --> 01:15:55,745
After overcoming great odds
to break out of his past,
1739
01:15:55,829 --> 01:15:57,830
Carl suddenly
found himself drawn back
1740
01:15:57,881 --> 01:15:59,999
into the world
he had left behind.
1741
01:16:00,050 --> 01:16:02,802
Man: And on the other charge,
1742
01:16:02,869 --> 01:16:04,387
the possession of cocaine charge
1743
01:16:04,471 --> 01:16:06,305
you'll be pleading no contest?
1744
01:16:06,373 --> 01:16:07,924
Yes, sir.
1745
01:16:08,008 --> 01:16:11,144
Hart: So Tobias is my son
who I found out was my son
1746
01:16:11,211 --> 01:16:13,379
about 8 or 9 years ago.
1747
01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:19,018
He was 16 when I found out,
and Tobias is now 26.
1748
01:16:19,069 --> 01:16:22,188
9 years later I'm still
struggling with it
1749
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:26,225
because I am responsible
for this person being here,
1750
01:16:26,276 --> 01:16:30,947
but yet I had no influence
on how this person was shaped.
1751
01:16:31,031 --> 01:16:33,399
Right now,
he has 2 open charges.
1752
01:16:33,450 --> 01:16:35,334
He has a cocaine charge.
1753
01:16:35,402 --> 01:16:39,238
It's not encouraging.
1754
01:16:41,908 --> 01:16:44,043
So your situation,
1755
01:16:44,094 --> 01:16:45,511
how are you doing
business-wise?
1756
01:16:45,579 --> 01:16:46,763
Surviving?
1757
01:16:46,847 --> 01:16:48,181
I ain't too good.
1758
01:16:48,248 --> 01:16:50,767
Christmas around
the corner gonna look ugly.
1759
01:16:50,851 --> 01:16:51,917
Yeah?
1760
01:16:51,969 --> 01:16:53,302
You should also
make sure you get
1761
01:16:53,387 --> 01:16:54,637
a little, small legitimate gig.
1762
01:16:54,721 --> 01:16:55,855
I don't care what it pays
1763
01:16:55,922 --> 01:16:57,273
because... all right.
1764
01:16:57,357 --> 01:16:59,942
Well, hang on, hang on,
just hear me out.
1765
01:17:00,027 --> 01:17:01,944
The thing is, I'm just afraid
1766
01:17:02,029 --> 01:17:04,096
that you go before a judge
1767
01:17:04,148 --> 01:17:05,698
and then they're gonna say,
1768
01:17:05,765 --> 01:17:08,267
"how are you getting
your loot?"
1769
01:17:08,318 --> 01:17:10,119
All them kids,
I ain't gonna be able
1770
01:17:10,204 --> 01:17:13,206
to take care of any kid
with no $8.00, $7.00 an hour.
1771
01:17:13,273 --> 01:17:16,742
You know, you can do
whatever you want in life,
1772
01:17:16,794 --> 01:17:18,127
but if you got all this stuff
1773
01:17:18,212 --> 01:17:19,412
hanging over your head,
1774
01:17:19,463 --> 01:17:21,998
you're gonna be
shackled by the system.
1775
01:17:24,218 --> 01:17:26,803
Please, man, just do
those little, small things
1776
01:17:26,887 --> 01:17:29,639
that I ask you to do, you know?
1777
01:17:29,723 --> 01:17:31,974
All right, so I'm out, man.
1778
01:17:32,059 --> 01:17:33,459
All right, bro.
1779
01:17:33,510 --> 01:17:34,644
See you later.
1780
01:17:34,728 --> 01:17:36,012
All right.
1781
01:17:39,650 --> 01:17:44,320
Hart: And it's just difficult
because I know his fate.
1782
01:17:44,404 --> 01:17:46,939
I mean, it's the same
we grew up with,
1783
01:17:46,990 --> 01:17:49,642
so it's these cycles.
1784
01:17:49,693 --> 01:17:51,994
You know, particularly in light
of what I'm trying to do
1785
01:17:52,079 --> 01:17:56,249
with my life, it's just sad.
1786
01:17:56,316 --> 01:17:58,784
Ok, so about
35 million Americans
1787
01:17:58,836 --> 01:18:00,986
report using some illicit drug
1788
01:18:01,038 --> 01:18:04,990
in the past year, but there's
this sort of general belief
1789
01:18:05,042 --> 01:18:07,009
that black people
are using drugs
1790
01:18:07,094 --> 01:18:09,462
disproportionate to their
numbers in the population.
1791
01:18:09,513 --> 01:18:13,049
I like to see empirical evidence
be used
1792
01:18:13,133 --> 01:18:15,968
in our shaping of public policy.
1793
01:18:16,019 --> 01:18:20,556
Now, all of this was completely
missed in the hysteria
1794
01:18:20,641 --> 01:18:24,193
in the mid-'80s and '90s
about crack cocaine.
1795
01:18:24,278 --> 01:18:26,479
Narrator: After spending so much
of his career studying drugs
1796
01:18:26,530 --> 01:18:28,364
and drug laws in
the black community,
1797
01:18:28,448 --> 01:18:30,516
Carl's focus has turned to
a new drug
1798
01:18:30,567 --> 01:18:32,702
and a new target
for law enforcement.
1799
01:18:32,786 --> 01:18:35,488
There is a new drug epidemic
in the United States.
1800
01:18:35,539 --> 01:18:38,991
Methamphetamines, or meth.
Like crack in the 1980s,
1801
01:18:39,042 --> 01:18:43,212
meth is cheap, potent, and leads
addicts to serious crimes.
1802
01:18:43,297 --> 01:18:45,915
Woman: All across America,
we've got people
1803
01:18:45,999 --> 01:18:49,719
who are trying to lure children
into using meth.
1804
01:18:49,803 --> 01:18:53,589
Hart: By the 1990s, we were
seeing a similar phenomenon
1805
01:18:53,674 --> 01:18:56,959
with methamphetamine as
we saw with crack cocaine.
1806
01:18:57,027 --> 01:18:58,947
The said meth would help me
get through my exams.
1807
01:18:58,979 --> 01:19:01,681
Hart: But the people who
are primarily associated
1808
01:19:01,732 --> 01:19:04,433
with methamphetamine use
are poor white folks
1809
01:19:04,518 --> 01:19:05,818
in trailer parks.
1810
01:19:05,885 --> 01:19:07,770
Newscaster: A fully operational
methamphetamine lab.
1811
01:19:07,854 --> 01:19:11,908
Hart: And also gay folks,
2 sort of despised groups.
1812
01:19:11,992 --> 01:19:13,192
We don't like that at all.
1813
01:19:13,243 --> 01:19:14,483
We can't stand
people like that.
1814
01:19:14,528 --> 01:19:16,779
When we think about
the country's response
1815
01:19:16,863 --> 01:19:18,281
to methamphetamine,
1816
01:19:18,365 --> 01:19:20,899
methamphetamine users
have been vilified.
1817
01:19:20,951 --> 01:19:23,202
And the reason we have
to recognize it
1818
01:19:23,253 --> 01:19:26,122
is so we can be careful
or more critical
1819
01:19:26,206 --> 01:19:28,741
than we were with crack cocaine.
1820
01:19:28,792 --> 01:19:32,244
Iowa, Nebraska, Missouri,
1821
01:19:32,296 --> 01:19:35,681
this is the heartland of
the methamphetamine problem.
1822
01:19:35,749 --> 01:19:39,251
How many of you are here
on meth sentences then?
1823
01:19:39,303 --> 01:19:40,603
Wow.
1824
01:19:40,687 --> 01:19:43,306
Now, how many of you
did I personally sentence?
1825
01:19:43,390 --> 01:19:45,891
[Snickering]
1826
01:19:45,943 --> 01:19:48,527
Man: For along time,
1827
01:19:48,595 --> 01:19:52,198
crack cocaine was the drug that
was populating the prisons.
1828
01:19:52,265 --> 01:19:55,368
Methamphetamine, though,
has rapidly caught up with it
1829
01:19:55,435 --> 01:19:57,436
and probably overtaken it.
1830
01:19:57,487 --> 01:20:00,990
Bennett: Today, the average
person I sentence in a drug case
1831
01:20:01,074 --> 01:20:05,044
is a nonviolent
blue collar worker
1832
01:20:05,111 --> 01:20:06,629
who lost their job
1833
01:20:06,713 --> 01:20:09,465
and then turned to
manufactured methamphetamine
1834
01:20:09,549 --> 01:20:10,499
to support their habit.
1835
01:20:10,584 --> 01:20:13,919
And we treat them
like they're kingpins.
1836
01:20:14,805 --> 01:20:16,955
[Guitar playing]
1837
01:20:20,761 --> 01:20:23,179
Narrator: With their rates
of incarceration rising,
1838
01:20:23,263 --> 01:20:25,264
white inmates have
started to received
1839
01:20:25,315 --> 01:20:29,068
the kind of harsh sentences that
blacks have faced all along.
1840
01:20:30,437 --> 01:20:34,156
Hey, what's going, man?
1841
01:20:34,241 --> 01:20:39,862
� If I leave here tomorrow
1842
01:20:42,249 --> 01:20:46,652
� would you still remember me?
1843
01:20:46,703 --> 01:20:48,587
Man: My name's Kevin knott.
1844
01:20:48,655 --> 01:20:51,156
My number's 203093.
1845
01:20:51,208 --> 01:20:54,960
I'm in here for trafficking
methamphetamine.
1846
01:20:55,012 --> 01:20:59,348
I start my 14th year
in just a couple months,
1847
01:20:59,433 --> 01:21:02,018
and I will be here until I die.
1848
01:21:02,102 --> 01:21:07,673
Yeah. I have life without parole
for 3 ounces of methamphetamine.
1849
01:21:07,724 --> 01:21:12,177
� 'Cause I'm as free
as a bird now �
1850
01:21:14,865 --> 01:21:17,483
[humming]
1851
01:21:18,652 --> 01:21:19,735
Ha ha!
1852
01:21:19,820 --> 01:21:23,072
I can't remember it, man.
It's been too long.
1853
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:35,668
Yep, I've... Up, but I don't
think I should die for it.
1854
01:21:35,719 --> 01:21:38,537
I have life without parole,
which means I'll stay in prison
1855
01:21:38,588 --> 01:21:39,972
until I die.
1856
01:21:40,039 --> 01:21:43,041
That's a death sentence
in my opinion...
1857
01:21:43,093 --> 01:21:44,727
A slow death sentence...
1858
01:21:44,811 --> 01:21:49,181
That I have to wait
until I die.
1859
01:21:49,232 --> 01:21:52,735
The reason I started with meth
is 'cause I got laid off.
1860
01:21:52,819 --> 01:21:55,888
Somebody said, "here,
try to sell some of this"
1861
01:21:55,939 --> 01:21:57,773
and get you
a little extra money."
1862
01:21:57,858 --> 01:21:59,658
And then I started using it,
1863
01:21:59,726 --> 01:22:01,577
and then I had to sell it
to pay for it.
1864
01:22:01,661 --> 01:22:03,829
Narrator: How much is
3 ounces of methamphetamine?
1865
01:22:03,897 --> 01:22:06,064
It will fit in
a small envelope.
1866
01:22:07,250 --> 01:22:10,252
If you've been busted
for 2 prior drug charges,
1867
01:22:10,337 --> 01:22:13,005
smoking pot or having pot
or methamphet,
1868
01:22:13,072 --> 01:22:15,424
whatever it is, and then you get
a trafficking charge,
1869
01:22:15,509 --> 01:22:16,830
they give you life
without parole.
1870
01:22:16,843 --> 01:22:19,462
It's mandatory,
life without parole.
1871
01:22:19,546 --> 01:22:22,915
Kevin has always been
a good son.
1872
01:22:22,966 --> 01:22:24,016
That's Kevin. Ha ha!
1873
01:22:24,083 --> 01:22:25,050
You got to see this.
1874
01:22:25,102 --> 01:22:28,104
That same sweet little boy.
1875
01:22:28,188 --> 01:22:31,557
Kevin's father was drafted
and was sent to Vietnam.
1876
01:22:31,608 --> 01:22:34,560
He looks very much like a boy,
he was a boy.
1877
01:22:34,611 --> 01:22:38,564
He went to Vietnam and came home
a very damaged boy.
1878
01:22:38,615 --> 01:22:43,953
He saw people that were maimed,
injured, shot and killed,
1879
01:22:44,037 --> 01:22:46,288
and I think he became
addicted to heroin
1880
01:22:46,373 --> 01:22:48,958
to help ease his personal pain.
1881
01:22:49,042 --> 01:22:53,379
After losing Kevin's dad,
Kevin kind of stepped up
1882
01:22:53,446 --> 01:22:57,049
and felt like he was
the man of the household.
1883
01:22:57,116 --> 01:23:00,669
Kevin: When I first came in,
there was only a few of us,
1884
01:23:00,754 --> 01:23:03,556
5 or 6 at the most.
1885
01:23:03,623 --> 01:23:07,476
A couple years ago, I heard
that there were 92 people
1886
01:23:07,561 --> 01:23:09,145
in the state of Oklahoma
1887
01:23:09,229 --> 01:23:11,296
that had life without parole
for drugs.
1888
01:23:11,348 --> 01:23:13,632
And it just keeps growing.
1889
01:23:13,683 --> 01:23:15,484
Hey. Yeah?
1890
01:23:15,569 --> 01:23:16,569
You got a visitor.
1891
01:23:16,636 --> 01:23:17,770
All right.
1892
01:23:17,821 --> 01:23:19,638
I fought it, and it's over with.
1893
01:23:19,689 --> 01:23:22,641
It's been over with
probably 9 years.
1894
01:23:22,692 --> 01:23:24,743
I took it all the way
to the supreme court,
1895
01:23:24,811 --> 01:23:26,912
and they wouldn't hear it.
1896
01:23:26,980 --> 01:23:30,866
So... Here I am waiting
for the law to change
1897
01:23:30,951 --> 01:23:33,869
or something, commutation
from the governor,
1898
01:23:33,954 --> 01:23:36,255
I don't know.
1899
01:23:54,107 --> 01:23:56,058
The time I've been locked up,
1900
01:23:56,142 --> 01:23:59,195
my mother has lost
2 of her brothers,
1901
01:23:59,279 --> 01:24:04,066
1 of her brother's daughters
directly related to drugs.
1902
01:24:05,735 --> 01:24:07,870
Hi, mom. Hi, honey.
1903
01:24:09,039 --> 01:24:11,123
And then my sister,
my youngest sister,
1904
01:24:11,190 --> 01:24:13,075
8 years younger than me was
coming to visit me in prison
1905
01:24:13,159 --> 01:24:16,879
at granite and died
in a car wreck.
1906
01:24:16,963 --> 01:24:20,216
It's been pretty bad
for my mom.
1907
01:24:23,503 --> 01:24:26,088
She's pretty strong.
1908
01:24:26,172 --> 01:24:29,058
Ogletree: Today
people have to understand
1909
01:24:29,208 --> 01:24:32,811
that the drug war is actually
a war on all Americans,
1910
01:24:32,879 --> 01:24:35,397
and I think people keep saying,
"well, that's about them."
1911
01:24:35,482 --> 01:24:37,215
Well, no, it's about you.
1912
01:24:37,267 --> 01:24:40,152
No one ever imagined when they
saw so many African Americans
1913
01:24:40,219 --> 01:24:42,238
getting locked up,
getting long sentences
1914
01:24:42,322 --> 01:24:44,723
that is would apply
beyond the black community.
1915
01:24:44,774 --> 01:24:46,191
But it does.
1916
01:24:46,243 --> 01:24:48,327
Newscaster: Unemployment at 9%,
1917
01:24:48,394 --> 01:24:51,947
America is struggling through
the worst recession since...
1918
01:24:52,032 --> 01:24:53,449
Different newscaster: No
prospects of an immediate end
1919
01:24:53,533 --> 01:24:54,667
to the recession.
1920
01:24:54,734 --> 01:24:55,801
Different newscaster:
Thousands of people,
1921
01:24:55,869 --> 01:24:58,070
jobless and hopeless
look for a way out
1922
01:24:58,138 --> 01:25:00,256
and find trouble instead.
1923
01:25:00,340 --> 01:25:03,575
Before I got hooked on drugs,
I looked down on drug addicts,
1924
01:25:03,643 --> 01:25:06,545
and then I became one.
1925
01:25:06,613 --> 01:25:08,814
Oftentimes we hate what we fear,
1926
01:25:08,882 --> 01:25:11,517
like this guy here,
he was a drug dealer,
1927
01:25:11,584 --> 01:25:13,218
so I would look down
upon him, too.
1928
01:25:13,270 --> 01:25:16,755
And I turned into a drug addict,
a drug dealer.
1929
01:25:16,806 --> 01:25:18,390
Simon: You know,
a funny thing happened
1930
01:25:18,441 --> 01:25:20,442
on the way to the 21st century,
1931
01:25:20,527 --> 01:25:23,145
which is that we shrugged off so
much of our manufacturing base,
1932
01:25:23,229 --> 01:25:25,430
so much of our need
for organized labor,
1933
01:25:25,482 --> 01:25:28,266
for a legitimate union wage,
for union benefits,
1934
01:25:28,318 --> 01:25:30,903
for the types of jobs on which
you could raise a family
1935
01:25:30,954 --> 01:25:32,121
and be a meaningful citizen.
1936
01:25:32,205 --> 01:25:34,606
We got rid of so much
of that that, oops,
1937
01:25:34,658 --> 01:25:37,275
we marginalized
a lot of white people.
1938
01:25:37,327 --> 01:25:39,611
Newscaster: 1 in every 8
Americans has had to visit
1939
01:25:39,663 --> 01:25:41,213
a food bank over the last year.
1940
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,132
Simon: And lo and behold,
1941
01:25:43,216 --> 01:25:44,667
white people,
when they're marginalized,
1942
01:25:44,751 --> 01:25:48,120
when they are denied meaning or
they are denied meaningful work,
1943
01:25:48,171 --> 01:25:50,222
they become drug addicts, too.
1944
01:25:50,289 --> 01:25:52,409
And they become involved
in the methamphetamine trade,
1945
01:25:52,425 --> 01:25:54,093
and they start
turning themselves over
1946
01:25:54,144 --> 01:25:55,177
to the underground economies
1947
01:25:55,261 --> 01:25:56,795
that are the only ones there
to accept them.
1948
01:25:56,846 --> 01:26:00,316
Capitalism is fairly colorblind
in the end.
1949
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,301
Our economic engine,
when it doesn't need somebody,
1950
01:26:03,353 --> 01:26:04,603
it doesn't need somebody
1951
01:26:04,671 --> 01:26:05,988
and it doesn't give a damn
who you are.
1952
01:26:06,072 --> 01:26:09,024
White people found out a little
bit later than black folk,
1953
01:26:09,109 --> 01:26:11,276
but they found it out.
1954
01:26:16,983 --> 01:26:18,450
Narrator: After hearing so much
1955
01:26:18,501 --> 01:26:19,835
about the failure
of the drug war
1956
01:26:19,919 --> 01:26:21,620
and the enormous harm it does,
1957
01:26:21,671 --> 01:26:24,006
I wanted to better understand
what drives it.
1958
01:26:24,090 --> 01:26:25,541
Far from the frontlines
of the war,
1959
01:26:25,625 --> 01:26:28,493
I discovered a vast and less
visible world of people
1960
01:26:28,545 --> 01:26:30,629
who I their own ways
play a part.
1961
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,598
This chair in comparison
1962
01:26:32,665 --> 01:26:35,467
to other types
of restraint chairs
1963
01:26:35,518 --> 01:26:36,852
is the most humane.
1964
01:26:36,936 --> 01:26:39,271
The person in the chair
can breathe very easily
1965
01:26:39,338 --> 01:26:41,106
and it's not restrictive.
1966
01:26:41,174 --> 01:26:43,559
[Indistinct yelling]
1967
01:26:45,145 --> 01:26:46,845
There it is.
1968
01:26:46,896 --> 01:26:48,564
Ha ha!
1969
01:26:48,648 --> 01:26:52,451
The war on drugs has to be
a war at every level.
1970
01:26:52,518 --> 01:26:55,788
It has to be a war
on the streets of the cities.
1971
01:26:55,855 --> 01:26:58,240
It has to be a war
at the state level.
1972
01:26:58,324 --> 01:27:00,125
And it has to be a war
at the federal level.
1973
01:27:00,193 --> 01:27:02,360
It's just like fighting
the war on terrorism.
1974
01:27:02,412 --> 01:27:03,879
Man: Before in the prisons,
1975
01:27:03,963 --> 01:27:07,499
I guess the only choice was you
could get a torah or a Bible.
1976
01:27:07,550 --> 01:27:09,051
Things have changed now.
1977
01:27:09,135 --> 01:27:11,203
Anybody want their free copy?
1978
01:27:12,806 --> 01:27:15,424
All sorts of people start to get
a vested interest,
1979
01:27:15,508 --> 01:27:18,093
a financial interest in keeping
the system going.
1980
01:27:18,178 --> 01:27:19,395
Woman:
Well, we're in the business
1981
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,096
of supplying corrections
with products.
1982
01:27:21,181 --> 01:27:22,648
It's a growing market, prisons.
1983
01:27:22,715 --> 01:27:26,218
There's a lot of prisoners
in the United States.
1984
01:27:27,887 --> 01:27:30,072
That's what I mean by...
1985
01:27:30,156 --> 01:27:32,608
now you've got me feeling
awkward because of the camera.
1986
01:27:32,692 --> 01:27:34,026
Put it down.
1987
01:27:34,077 --> 01:27:35,744
Man: This company, cca,
1988
01:27:35,829 --> 01:27:38,163
we are the leader
and the largest in the world
1989
01:27:38,231 --> 01:27:40,332
as far as private prisons
and jails.
1990
01:27:40,399 --> 01:27:41,417
We are profitable.
1991
01:27:41,501 --> 01:27:43,585
We're highly rated
in the stock market.
1992
01:27:43,670 --> 01:27:47,423
It hones our ability
to it less expensively
1993
01:27:47,507 --> 01:27:49,958
because we have to earn
a profit.
1994
01:27:50,043 --> 01:27:52,511
There's a whole range
of corporations,
1995
01:27:52,578 --> 01:27:54,263
the taser gun manufacturers,
1996
01:27:54,347 --> 01:27:56,248
private healthcare providers,
1997
01:27:56,299 --> 01:27:59,017
phone companies,
whole communities
1998
01:27:59,085 --> 01:28:03,255
that now depend on prisons
as their primary employer,
1999
01:28:03,306 --> 01:28:06,591
now, deeply invested
in the drug war
2000
01:28:06,643 --> 01:28:09,394
and the system of
mass incarceration.
2001
01:28:09,446 --> 01:28:11,113
Miller: And all these people
2002
01:28:11,197 --> 01:28:12,364
are not trying to do
anything wrong.
2003
01:28:12,415 --> 01:28:13,899
They're trying to make
society better.
2004
01:28:13,950 --> 01:28:15,834
But their actions
combined together
2005
01:28:15,902 --> 01:28:17,419
become part of the thrust
2006
01:28:17,504 --> 01:28:18,754
that makes the bad parts
of the drug war
2007
01:28:18,838 --> 01:28:21,757
more feasible
and more practical.
2008
01:28:21,841 --> 01:28:22,925
The thing with
the war on drugs is
2009
01:28:23,009 --> 01:28:24,370
and the question
we have to ask is,
2010
01:28:24,377 --> 01:28:25,744
not why is it a failure,
2011
01:28:25,795 --> 01:28:27,555
but why, given that it seems
to be a failure,
2012
01:28:27,597 --> 01:28:29,348
why is it persistent?
2013
01:28:29,415 --> 01:28:32,751
And I'm beginning to think,
maybe it's a success.
2014
01:28:32,802 --> 01:28:36,138
What if it's a success
by keeping police forces busy?
2015
01:28:36,222 --> 01:28:39,424
What if it's a success by
keeping private jails thriving?
2016
01:28:39,476 --> 01:28:42,227
What if it's a success keeping
a legal establishment
2017
01:28:42,278 --> 01:28:44,763
justified in its
self-generated activity?
2018
01:28:44,814 --> 01:28:47,149
Maybe it's a success
on different terms,
2019
01:28:47,233 --> 01:28:49,134
than the publicly stated ones.
2020
01:28:49,202 --> 01:28:50,953
Narrator:
Perhaps not surprisingly
2021
01:28:51,037 --> 01:28:53,939
it was people on the inside
who turned out to be most aware
2022
01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:56,291
of the dangerous pressures
that outside forces
2023
01:28:56,376 --> 01:28:58,677
exert on the system.
2024
01:28:59,829 --> 01:29:01,630
Carpenter: My job is
to keep the people inside
2025
01:29:01,631 --> 01:29:04,716
who are supposed to be inside,
and I'm gonna do my job.
2026
01:29:04,784 --> 01:29:06,552
But as I've come along
in corrections
2027
01:29:06,619 --> 01:29:08,086
over the last 20 years,
2028
01:29:08,137 --> 01:29:10,472
I've just kind of watched
it grow into this thing.
2029
01:29:10,557 --> 01:29:12,975
I mean, it's almost
a self-fulfilling prophecy.
2030
01:29:13,059 --> 01:29:14,626
You build a bed,
they fill the bed.
2031
01:29:14,677 --> 01:29:17,462
They start sucking in money
at an astronomical rate,
2032
01:29:17,514 --> 01:29:20,983
and it just grows and grows
and grows of its own accord.
2033
01:29:21,067 --> 01:29:22,467
You almost can't stop it.
2034
01:29:22,519 --> 01:29:24,152
You can't afford to stop it.
2035
01:29:24,237 --> 01:29:26,655
And so now
you start talking about,
2036
01:29:26,739 --> 01:29:29,191
well, you know, we can cut
some corners and we can reduce.
2037
01:29:29,275 --> 01:29:32,110
What about if we reduce
by closing that facility?
2038
01:29:32,161 --> 01:29:34,663
Newscaster: Employees are hoping
the governor will reconsider
2039
01:29:34,747 --> 01:29:36,415
his plan to close the prison.
2040
01:29:36,482 --> 01:29:37,666
Carpenter: Well, wait a minute.
You can't do that.
2041
01:29:37,750 --> 01:29:39,952
My community will dry up
and blow away.
2042
01:29:40,003 --> 01:29:42,838
The private prisons, they
actually go to a town and say,
2043
01:29:42,922 --> 01:29:44,623
if you'll use your tax money
2044
01:29:44,674 --> 01:29:46,542
to buy the land
and build the facility,
2045
01:29:46,626 --> 01:29:48,293
we'll rent it from you,
and you'll get rich,
2046
01:29:48,344 --> 01:29:50,829
and we'll get rich,
and we'll all be rich together.
2047
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,765
Well, that only works if
there's prisoners in the beds.
2048
01:29:53,833 --> 01:29:56,685
So now you're starting to find
people that fit the criteria,
2049
01:29:56,769 --> 01:29:59,471
now you actually can pay people
to go out and look for people
2050
01:29:59,522 --> 01:30:02,507
that fit the criteria,
and now it's gonna grow faster.
2051
01:30:02,559 --> 01:30:04,560
You can't let that town fail,
2052
01:30:04,644 --> 01:30:09,114
so you can't change the way you
think about locking people up.
2053
01:30:09,181 --> 01:30:11,199
Narrator: So you
need a new enemy.
2054
01:30:11,284 --> 01:30:14,202
It's the same enemy,
you just need more of 'em.
2055
01:30:17,457 --> 01:30:19,825
Narrator: Though my journey had
begun with a simple question
2056
01:30:19,876 --> 01:30:21,710
about 1 person's life,
2057
01:30:21,794 --> 01:30:24,296
it was forcing me to confront
unsettling realities
2058
01:30:24,363 --> 01:30:25,914
facing the country.
2059
01:30:25,999 --> 01:30:28,366
And yet the full weight
of the situation
2060
01:30:28,418 --> 01:30:29,918
had still not been revealed
to me
2061
01:30:30,003 --> 01:30:31,970
in its darkest historical terms.
2062
01:30:32,038 --> 01:30:34,673
Simon: Say it this way
'cause it's more honest.
2063
01:30:34,724 --> 01:30:37,208
Instead of saying let's get rid
of all these drug addicts
2064
01:30:37,260 --> 01:30:38,510
and drug dealers,
2065
01:30:38,561 --> 01:30:41,063
and once we throw away
the key on them,
2066
01:30:41,147 --> 01:30:43,065
we'll solve this problem.
2067
01:30:43,149 --> 01:30:45,017
Why don't you try saying it
to yourself this way.
2068
01:30:45,068 --> 01:30:47,152
All these Americans
that we don't need anymore,
2069
01:30:47,219 --> 01:30:49,988
the factories are closed,
we don't need them,
2070
01:30:50,056 --> 01:30:52,157
you know,
the textile mills are gone,
2071
01:30:52,224 --> 01:30:54,893
gm is closing plants,
we don't need these people.
2072
01:30:54,944 --> 01:30:57,412
You're extra Americans.
We don't need 'em.
2073
01:30:57,497 --> 01:30:59,397
Let's just get rid of
the bottom 15% of the country.
2074
01:30:59,449 --> 01:31:00,866
Let's lock 'em up.
2075
01:31:00,917 --> 01:31:02,834
In fact, let's see if we can
make money off locking them up
2076
01:31:02,902 --> 01:31:05,120
in the short term
even though it's gonna be
2077
01:31:05,204 --> 01:31:06,644
an incredible burden
for our society,
2078
01:31:06,673 --> 01:31:09,091
even though it's gonna
destroy these families,
2079
01:31:09,175 --> 01:31:11,043
you know, where these people
are probably integral
2080
01:31:11,094 --> 01:31:14,379
to the lives of other Americans,
let's just get rid of them,
2081
01:31:14,430 --> 01:31:15,681
you know?
2082
01:31:15,748 --> 01:31:17,516
And at that point, why don't you
just say kill the poor?
2083
01:31:17,583 --> 01:31:20,135
If we kill the poor,
we're gonna be a lot better off,
2084
01:31:20,219 --> 01:31:23,805
because that's what the drug war
has become.
2085
01:31:29,261 --> 01:31:31,980
Miller: My father was
a war crimes investigator
2086
01:31:32,065 --> 01:31:33,732
in Europe after world war ii.
2087
01:31:33,783 --> 01:31:36,735
And we often talked about
his experiences.
2088
01:31:38,938 --> 01:31:42,574
I was reading the work
of Raul hilberg,
2089
01:31:42,625 --> 01:31:44,505
who wrote about the destruction
of European Jews
2090
01:31:44,577 --> 01:31:45,961
and the holocaust.
2091
01:31:46,045 --> 01:31:50,716
We've long known that
the process of destruction
2092
01:31:50,783 --> 01:31:54,419
was an undertaking step by step.
2093
01:31:54,470 --> 01:31:57,923
Miller: I realized that there
was a chain of destruction,
2094
01:31:57,974 --> 01:32:00,809
that what he was talking about
could be expressed
2095
01:32:00,893 --> 01:32:04,646
by links in a chain
around the world
2096
01:32:04,731 --> 01:32:07,099
in more than 1 society.
2097
01:32:07,150 --> 01:32:09,067
People do the same things
again and again,
2098
01:32:09,135 --> 01:32:13,689
decade after decade,
century after century.
2099
01:32:15,024 --> 01:32:17,976
Now, this chain of destruction
begins with the phase
2100
01:32:18,027 --> 01:32:20,278
we can call identification,
2101
01:32:20,329 --> 01:32:24,583
in which a group of people
is identified as a cause
2102
01:32:24,650 --> 01:32:26,835
for problems of society.
2103
01:32:26,919 --> 01:32:29,121
People start to perceive
their fellow citizens
2104
01:32:29,172 --> 01:32:31,456
as bad or evil.
2105
01:32:31,507 --> 01:32:32,958
They used to be
worthwhile people,
2106
01:32:33,009 --> 01:32:34,492
but now all of a sudden
for some reason,
2107
01:32:34,544 --> 01:32:36,712
their lives are worthless.
2108
01:32:36,796 --> 01:32:40,799
The second link in the chain
of destruction is ostracism,
2109
01:32:40,850 --> 01:32:43,001
by which we learn
how to hate these people,
2110
01:32:43,052 --> 01:32:44,669
how to take their jobs away,
2111
01:32:44,721 --> 01:32:46,888
how to make it harder
for them to survive.
2112
01:32:46,973 --> 01:32:48,724
People lose their place to live.
2113
01:32:48,808 --> 01:32:50,559
Often they're forced
into ghettoes,
2114
01:32:50,643 --> 01:32:52,144
where they're
physically isolated,
2115
01:32:52,195 --> 01:32:55,280
separate from the rest
of society.
2116
01:32:55,347 --> 01:32:57,816
The third link is confiscation.
2117
01:32:57,867 --> 01:33:00,619
People lose their rights,
civil liberties.
2118
01:33:00,686 --> 01:33:03,739
The laws themselves change
so it's made easier
2119
01:33:03,823 --> 01:33:05,373
for people to be
stopped on the street,
2120
01:33:05,458 --> 01:33:06,825
patted down, searched,
2121
01:33:06,876 --> 01:33:09,077
and for their property
to be confiscated.
2122
01:33:09,162 --> 01:33:11,880
Now, once you start taking
people's property away,
2123
01:33:11,964 --> 01:33:14,666
you can start taking the people
themselves away.
2124
01:33:14,717 --> 01:33:17,702
And the fourth link
is concentration.
2125
01:33:17,754 --> 01:33:21,506
Concentrate them into facilities
such as prisons, camps.
2126
01:33:21,557 --> 01:33:22,891
People lose their rights.
2127
01:33:22,975 --> 01:33:25,543
They can't vote anymore,
have children anymore.
2128
01:33:25,595 --> 01:33:29,731
Often their labor is exploited
in a very systematic form.
2129
01:33:29,816 --> 01:33:32,100
And the final link
in the chain of destruction
2130
01:33:32,185 --> 01:33:33,602
is annihilation.
2131
01:33:33,686 --> 01:33:35,654
Now, this might be indirect
2132
01:33:35,721 --> 01:33:38,323
by, say,
withholding medical care,
2133
01:33:38,390 --> 01:33:41,726
withholding food,
preventing further births.
2134
01:33:41,778 --> 01:33:43,945
Or it might be direct
where death is inflicted,
2135
01:33:44,030 --> 01:33:46,498
where people are
deliberately killed.
2136
01:33:46,565 --> 01:33:49,334
These steps tend to happen
of their own momentum,
2137
01:33:49,401 --> 01:33:52,537
without anybody forcing
them to happen.
2138
01:33:54,573 --> 01:33:58,710
I think a lot of people would be
disturbed and outraged
2139
01:33:58,761 --> 01:34:01,079
by the thought that
any part of this process
2140
01:34:01,130 --> 01:34:03,348
could be going on in America.
2141
01:34:04,884 --> 01:34:07,102
But it wasn't until I began
studying the drug war
2142
01:34:07,186 --> 01:34:10,806
that I realized that some of
these same steps were happening.
2143
01:34:10,890 --> 01:34:13,225
For instance, identification.
2144
01:34:13,276 --> 01:34:15,811
All of us agree that
the greatest domestic threat
2145
01:34:15,895 --> 01:34:18,196
facing our nation today
is drugs.
2146
01:34:18,264 --> 01:34:20,232
Bowden:
The way to take a problem
2147
01:34:20,283 --> 01:34:21,566
and make it a huge problem
2148
01:34:21,617 --> 01:34:24,653
is first you ask
the wrong question,
2149
01:34:24,737 --> 01:34:26,621
and then you feed us
the wrong answer.
2150
01:34:26,706 --> 01:34:28,623
Bush: Who's responsible?
2151
01:34:28,708 --> 01:34:30,659
Let me tell you straight out...
2152
01:34:30,743 --> 01:34:35,380
everyone who uses drugs,
everyone who sells drugs,
2153
01:34:35,447 --> 01:34:38,166
and everyone
who looks the other way.
2154
01:34:38,251 --> 01:34:40,836
Bien: You identify people,
their characteristics,
2155
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,588
you make them other
using fear mongering,
2156
01:34:43,639 --> 01:34:46,591
as if they're the cause
of our problems.
2157
01:34:46,642 --> 01:34:48,643
These people are
killing our kids.
2158
01:34:48,728 --> 01:34:51,847
These people are
disrupting society.
2159
01:34:51,931 --> 01:34:54,649
These people are wrecking
our society.
2160
01:34:54,734 --> 01:34:56,151
Miller: Secondly, ostracism.
2161
01:34:56,235 --> 01:34:59,771
Society learns to hate
drug users.
2162
01:34:59,839 --> 01:35:03,642
If you are a casual drug user,
you are an accomplice to murder.
2163
01:35:03,709 --> 01:35:05,043
[Applause]
2164
01:35:05,111 --> 01:35:08,179
You apply special laws to them
that don't apply to others.
2165
01:35:08,247 --> 01:35:09,497
Miller: Now all of a sudden
these people
2166
01:35:09,582 --> 01:35:12,317
who have previously just been
identified as drug users
2167
01:35:12,368 --> 01:35:13,835
become criminals.
2168
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:15,120
Bill Clinton:
If you break the law,
2169
01:35:15,171 --> 01:35:18,173
you no longer have a home
in public housing.
2170
01:35:18,257 --> 01:35:20,491
Kaufman: The ultimate effect
is isolation,
2171
01:35:20,543 --> 01:35:22,711
being cut off from
mainstream society.
2172
01:35:22,795 --> 01:35:24,555
Carpenter: We start it out,
we identify them,
2173
01:35:24,597 --> 01:35:27,182
we figure out who they are,
then we start making laws
2174
01:35:27,266 --> 01:35:29,217
to prevent them from
being around our children.
2175
01:35:29,302 --> 01:35:32,020
You push them out of the places
where they may be successful,
2176
01:35:32,104 --> 01:35:34,105
and so where do they go?
2177
01:35:34,173 --> 01:35:36,725
Simon:
The area of the last opposition,
2178
01:35:36,809 --> 01:35:38,810
the modern American ghetto.
2179
01:35:38,861 --> 01:35:41,897
We manage to isolate the poor
economically.
2180
01:35:41,981 --> 01:35:43,315
Carpenter: You force them
out of the place
2181
01:35:43,366 --> 01:35:46,351
where they could live and work
and possibly be successful,
2182
01:35:46,402 --> 01:35:50,572
and now you make them...
you make them criminals.
2183
01:35:50,656 --> 01:35:53,241
Simon: So once the economics
has done its business,
2184
01:35:53,326 --> 01:35:55,127
then you can add
different levels of policing.
2185
01:35:55,194 --> 01:35:56,878
You can change the rules.
2186
01:35:56,963 --> 01:35:58,363
You're under arrest.
2187
01:35:58,414 --> 01:35:59,364
For what?
2188
01:35:59,415 --> 01:36:00,496
You've got a bench warrant.
2189
01:36:00,532 --> 01:36:01,716
Probably for drugs.
2190
01:36:01,801 --> 01:36:03,802
Woman: Hey, guys,
you know the program.
2191
01:36:03,869 --> 01:36:05,337
Get your hands up, turn around.
2192
01:36:05,388 --> 01:36:08,539
Miller: Confiscation.
Any property they find on you
2193
01:36:08,591 --> 01:36:09,758
can be subjected to
civil forfeiture.
2194
01:36:09,842 --> 01:36:12,344
That money's ours now.
That's my money now.
2195
01:36:12,395 --> 01:36:13,795
Newscaster:
Federal and local police
2196
01:36:13,813 --> 01:36:16,231
seized these vehicles
after their occupants
2197
01:36:16,315 --> 01:36:18,767
allegedly purchased cocaine
and other drugs.
2198
01:36:18,851 --> 01:36:20,852
Miller: If we're seizing
their property,
2199
01:36:20,903 --> 01:36:24,489
it's really a simple next step
to seizing their persons.
2200
01:36:24,556 --> 01:36:25,991
Newscaster: Holloway
was arrested on charges
2201
01:36:26,058 --> 01:36:27,359
of resisting arrest
2202
01:36:27,410 --> 01:36:29,945
and wandering with the intent
to buy drugs.
2203
01:36:30,029 --> 01:36:31,562
Alexander: In the drug war,
2204
01:36:31,614 --> 01:36:33,094
there's more that's
being confiscated.
2205
01:36:33,115 --> 01:36:38,370
What's being taken from them
is all hope in a future.
2206
01:36:38,421 --> 01:36:40,288
Woman:
What y'all getting him for?
2207
01:36:40,373 --> 01:36:42,407
Don't worry. We caught
him with narcotics.
2208
01:36:42,458 --> 01:36:45,743
With the drug war, we've gone as
far as the concentration phase.
2209
01:36:45,795 --> 01:36:48,129
Bowden: My government says
we're fighting a heroic war
2210
01:36:48,214 --> 01:36:52,100
against drugs and a war against
people who use drugs.
2211
01:36:52,184 --> 01:36:53,718
And frankly a lot of them
2212
01:36:53,769 --> 01:36:55,220
are just going to have
to be locked up.
2213
01:36:55,271 --> 01:36:58,256
Bien: Extraordinary numbers
of people are in prison
2214
01:36:58,307 --> 01:36:59,757
because of drugs,
2215
01:36:59,809 --> 01:37:02,310
yet it is not a place
to get drug treatment.
2216
01:37:02,395 --> 01:37:04,562
They come out,
and then we're surprised
2217
01:37:04,613 --> 01:37:06,314
that we have the highest
recidivism rates,
2218
01:37:06,399 --> 01:37:09,617
and that results in this cycle
of incarceration
2219
01:37:09,702 --> 01:37:11,286
and overcrowding.
2220
01:37:11,370 --> 01:37:13,822
Kaufman: This concentration
of people,
2221
01:37:13,906 --> 01:37:16,074
whether it's
in inner city ghettos
2222
01:37:16,142 --> 01:37:20,662
or in prisons, creates
a culture of hopelessness
2223
01:37:20,746 --> 01:37:22,747
that is incredibly corrosive.
2224
01:37:22,798 --> 01:37:24,799
When they don't have
any prospects,
2225
01:37:24,884 --> 01:37:26,051
people turn to drugs.
2226
01:37:26,118 --> 01:37:28,619
And then we'll pursue them
and we'll be able to hire
2227
01:37:28,671 --> 01:37:30,672
a bunch of prison guards
and parole officers
2228
01:37:30,756 --> 01:37:34,059
and narcotics detectives
and drug treatment people.
2229
01:37:34,126 --> 01:37:37,312
In the short term,
some people have jobs.
2230
01:37:37,396 --> 01:37:39,630
Miller: Annihilation.
2231
01:37:39,682 --> 01:37:43,518
That's not happening with
the drug war in this country.
2232
01:37:43,602 --> 01:37:45,687
But there are subtle
but real ways
2233
01:37:45,771 --> 01:37:48,306
that don't involve
indiscriminant mass killings,
2234
01:37:48,357 --> 01:37:49,974
such as preventing births.
2235
01:37:50,026 --> 01:37:52,577
Man: $200 cash payments
to women addicted to crack
2236
01:37:52,644 --> 01:37:54,529
to be sterilized.
2237
01:37:54,613 --> 01:37:55,813
Violence in prisons.
2238
01:37:55,865 --> 01:37:57,982
Newscaster: Severe overcrowding
sparked jailhouse riots.
2239
01:37:58,034 --> 01:38:00,118
Different newscaster:
27 inmates died yesterday.
2240
01:38:00,169 --> 01:38:02,320
Miller: People swept up
in drug war violence.
2241
01:38:02,371 --> 01:38:05,173
Newscaster: 140 drug killings
this year.
2242
01:38:05,257 --> 01:38:06,591
Different newscaster: An Iraqi
war veteran was killed
2243
01:38:06,658 --> 01:38:09,928
after SWAT team officers stormed
his Tucson, Arizona, home
2244
01:38:09,995 --> 01:38:12,130
in a drug raid
that turned up no drugs.
2245
01:38:12,181 --> 01:38:14,549
Miller: Now it's important
to remember or to realize
2246
01:38:14,633 --> 01:38:17,218
it isn't that the war
on drug users is the same
2247
01:38:17,303 --> 01:38:19,304
as what happened
in other societies,
2248
01:38:19,355 --> 01:38:22,507
but that both are wars
on ordinary people,
2249
01:38:22,558 --> 01:38:24,142
people who are just like us.
2250
01:38:24,193 --> 01:38:26,528
Carpenter: You've got to have
an enemy for everything.
2251
01:38:26,612 --> 01:38:31,032
The way that Germany in the '30s
rebuilt their infrastructure,
2252
01:38:31,117 --> 01:38:35,787
rebuilt their industries
and rebuilt their pride,
2253
01:38:35,854 --> 01:38:40,575
their nationalism was by saying
that these people,
2254
01:38:40,659 --> 01:38:42,860
this group of people is
the cause of all of our woe,
2255
01:38:42,912 --> 01:38:46,131
and if we hate them,
we'll be better off.
2256
01:38:46,198 --> 01:38:48,967
Narrator: Or not
doing it at all.
2257
01:38:49,034 --> 01:38:50,752
I don't think
it's to that extreme,
2258
01:38:50,836 --> 01:38:53,805
but we do say those people
are bad for us,
2259
01:38:53,872 --> 01:38:57,041
and if we hate them,
our lives will be better.
2260
01:38:57,093 --> 01:39:01,012
So everybody's got to have
an enemy.
2261
01:39:13,559 --> 01:39:16,227
The drug war is a holocaust
in slow motion.
2262
01:39:16,278 --> 01:39:20,782
And it's not somebody arguing
racial superiority
2263
01:39:20,866 --> 01:39:25,453
or arguing for the destruction
of a given race or religion.
2264
01:39:25,538 --> 01:39:27,338
That doesn't exist.
2265
01:39:27,406 --> 01:39:29,874
Let's be honest about what
was unique to the holocaust.
2266
01:39:29,925 --> 01:39:35,096
But... There is an incredible
destruction of human life
2267
01:39:35,181 --> 01:39:39,750
that is class-fixed,
not race-fixed, but class-fixed
2268
01:39:39,802 --> 01:39:42,520
that is going on and is going on
under the guise
2269
01:39:42,588 --> 01:39:45,190
of a war against
illegal narcotics.
2270
01:39:45,257 --> 01:39:50,311
[Radio playing indistinctly]
2271
01:39:50,396 --> 01:39:52,280
The first time
seeing her, right?
2272
01:39:52,364 --> 01:39:56,401
They don't even know who...
2273
01:39:56,452 --> 01:39:58,953
Johnson: I mean, I know they
want people to learn a lesson,
2274
01:39:59,038 --> 01:40:00,788
but to be honest,
all of this time
2275
01:40:00,873 --> 01:40:03,625
is not really helping anybody,
2276
01:40:03,709 --> 01:40:05,276
especially my daughter.
2277
01:40:05,327 --> 01:40:07,778
All it's doing is making her
grow up like me,
2278
01:40:07,830 --> 01:40:12,083
like the cycle is just
continuing, you know?
2279
01:40:12,134 --> 01:40:14,669
That was a letter that
was written by your aunt.
2280
01:40:14,753 --> 01:40:16,304
She wrote it to the judge.
2281
01:40:16,388 --> 01:40:19,224
I ain't never read it, man.
2282
01:40:19,291 --> 01:40:21,176
"Dear judge Bennett,
I just wanted you to know
2283
01:40:21,260 --> 01:40:23,061
"a little bit about Maurice.
2284
01:40:23,128 --> 01:40:25,897
"When he was 6 months old,
his father was murdered.
2285
01:40:25,964 --> 01:40:27,682
"That was a sad day.
2286
01:40:27,766 --> 01:40:29,400
"My sister then began
using drugs,
2287
01:40:29,468 --> 01:40:32,403
and soon after
our young kid's lives..."
2288
01:40:32,471 --> 01:40:34,739
Correia: All the years
I spent in narcotics,
2289
01:40:34,806 --> 01:40:38,193
I didn't go out there
every day and say,
2290
01:40:38,277 --> 01:40:40,912
"hell, let's inflict some harm
on the community."
2291
01:40:40,979 --> 01:40:43,998
I think, you know, an unintended
consequence was that,
2292
01:40:44,083 --> 01:40:48,319
yeah, we probably did, you know,
we probably did inflict harm.
2293
01:40:48,370 --> 01:40:50,821
Man:
2 young kids with the mother.
2294
01:40:54,826 --> 01:40:57,795
Chism: Kevin has been locked up
13 years.
2295
01:40:57,846 --> 01:41:02,433
So now we write letters
and we call and we email
2296
01:41:02,501 --> 01:41:06,638
and just with the prayer
that somebody will hear us
2297
01:41:06,689 --> 01:41:10,141
because our day will come,
and I believe it will come.
2298
01:41:10,192 --> 01:41:13,194
I don't think my son
is gonna die in prison.
2299
01:41:15,948 --> 01:41:23,154
Walking away and leaving him is
the hardest thing that I do.
2300
01:41:23,205 --> 01:41:25,373
Carpenter: I don't know
what the solution is.
2301
01:41:25,457 --> 01:41:27,242
But I know that the solution
can't be more
2302
01:41:27,326 --> 01:41:29,410
of what's got us to this spot.
2303
01:41:29,495 --> 01:41:32,497
It can't be more of the same.
2304
01:41:32,548 --> 01:41:34,632
Mate: America's drug problem,
2305
01:41:34,700 --> 01:41:36,584
a result of hundreds of years
of history,
2306
01:41:36,669 --> 01:41:41,172
economic policy, social policy,
and misunderstanding.
2307
01:41:41,223 --> 01:41:43,675
So let's not make the most
visible manifestation of it,
2308
01:41:43,726 --> 01:41:46,394
that is to say people being out
there in the street and using
2309
01:41:46,478 --> 01:41:48,012
the problem.
2310
01:41:48,063 --> 01:41:49,430
It's not the problem.
2311
01:41:49,515 --> 01:41:50,898
It's simply a manifestation
of our problem.
2312
01:41:50,983 --> 01:41:52,483
It's simply a symptom.
2313
01:41:52,551 --> 01:41:54,018
It's sort of like saying that
the problem with pneumonia
2314
01:41:54,069 --> 01:41:55,603
is that you cough.
2315
01:41:55,688 --> 01:41:58,055
Let's suppress the cough
and that's ok.
2316
01:41:58,107 --> 01:41:59,490
Well, you can suppress
the cough.
2317
01:41:59,558 --> 01:42:01,943
That lung will
still be inflamed.
2318
01:42:02,027 --> 01:42:05,663
And that lung tissue
is still being damaged.
2319
01:42:05,731 --> 01:42:07,999
You got to deal with
the whole picture.
2320
01:42:09,201 --> 01:42:10,901
Narrator: After 40 years
of incalculable
2321
01:42:10,953 --> 01:42:12,787
human and economic cost,
2322
01:42:12,871 --> 01:42:15,340
it's hard to imagine how
something so deeply rooted
2323
01:42:15,407 --> 01:42:17,792
in American life
can possibly be changed.
2324
01:42:17,876 --> 01:42:20,712
Man: Mr. chair, we find
ourselves as a nation
2325
01:42:20,763 --> 01:42:24,265
in the midst of a profound,
deeply corrosive crisis
2326
01:42:24,350 --> 01:42:28,386
that we have largely
been ignoring at our peril.
2327
01:42:28,437 --> 01:42:30,421
Narrator: But at many levels
across the country,
2328
01:42:30,472 --> 01:42:32,440
there are people
trying to change things.
2329
01:42:32,524 --> 01:42:33,858
Man: After 30 years,
2330
01:42:33,925 --> 01:42:35,727
all of my colleagues who
are afraid for the politics,
2331
01:42:35,778 --> 01:42:37,528
we have to go a different way.
2332
01:42:37,596 --> 01:42:40,114
Ogletree: You have never had so
many people on the same side
2333
01:42:40,199 --> 01:42:42,066
of this issue because
we fought a war.
2334
01:42:42,117 --> 01:42:43,100
We've been unsuccessful.
2335
01:42:43,152 --> 01:42:44,952
Man: Let's return to the focus
2336
01:42:45,037 --> 01:42:46,604
on prevention of crime.
2337
01:42:46,655 --> 01:42:48,956
How do we prevent people
from becoming drug addicts?
2338
01:42:49,041 --> 01:42:51,626
How do we prevent people
from being incarcerated?
2339
01:42:51,710 --> 01:42:54,111
Too many people in jail
that don't need to be there.
2340
01:42:54,163 --> 01:42:55,963
There's a lot that
is not working.
2341
01:42:56,048 --> 01:42:58,966
Narrator: In recent months,
under increasing public pressure
2342
01:42:59,051 --> 01:43:01,419
the first signs have emerged
that the drug war,
2343
01:43:01,470 --> 01:43:04,422
after decades of failure
and unsustainable cost
2344
01:43:04,473 --> 01:43:05,757
may indeed be changing.
2345
01:43:05,808 --> 01:43:07,124
Newscaster:
Congress took action today
2346
01:43:07,176 --> 01:43:08,426
to fix what many have called
2347
01:43:08,477 --> 01:43:12,096
a very unfair gap
in federal sentencing rules
2348
01:43:12,147 --> 01:43:15,933
for crack cocaine as opposed to
powder cocaine.
2349
01:43:15,984 --> 01:43:18,603
President Obama signed a new law
at the white house today
2350
01:43:18,654 --> 01:43:21,072
cutting the ratio to 18:1.
2351
01:43:21,139 --> 01:43:22,607
Mauer:
We view that as a compromise.
2352
01:43:22,658 --> 01:43:24,975
We view that as not providing
full justice,
2353
01:43:25,027 --> 01:43:27,745
and we won't rest
after that's adopted.
2354
01:43:27,813 --> 01:43:29,997
Narrator: Yet despite a few
first steps toward reform,
2355
01:43:30,082 --> 01:43:31,949
those experienced
with criminal justice
2356
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,452
know it will take more
than experts, activists,
2357
01:43:34,503 --> 01:43:36,621
and a handful of
courageous lawmakers
2358
01:43:36,672 --> 01:43:39,824
to undo the damage that decades
of drug laws have caused.
2359
01:43:39,875 --> 01:43:43,511
Simon: Understand that
the political infrastructure
2360
01:43:43,595 --> 01:43:45,930
is so wedded to the status quo,
2361
01:43:45,997 --> 01:43:48,049
that they're so consumed
with the next election
2362
01:43:48,133 --> 01:43:51,602
that there will never emerge
a shred of leadership
2363
01:43:51,670 --> 01:43:53,170
that will change the situation.
2364
01:43:53,222 --> 01:43:54,806
It's up to us.
2365
01:43:54,857 --> 01:43:56,507
Man: When do we want it?
All: Right now!
2366
01:43:56,558 --> 01:43:57,775
Man: When do we want it?
All: Now!
2367
01:43:57,843 --> 01:44:01,345
No longer can drug laws serve
as a stimulus package
2368
01:44:01,397 --> 01:44:04,682
for prison communities
on the back of poor people.
2369
01:44:04,733 --> 01:44:06,284
Stewart: My takeaway
from the past 15 years
2370
01:44:06,351 --> 01:44:08,619
isn't that we need to wait
until we get consensus.
2371
01:44:08,687 --> 01:44:10,521
It's that we need to do
what's right.
2372
01:44:10,572 --> 01:44:12,707
If there are people
like this body
2373
01:44:12,791 --> 01:44:14,792
who are the sentencing experts
2374
01:44:14,860 --> 01:44:17,027
that are supposed
to tell congress
2375
01:44:17,079 --> 01:44:21,048
and tell the public what
the right thing to do is,
2376
01:44:21,133 --> 01:44:23,968
I just urge you to do it.
2377
01:44:24,035 --> 01:44:27,472
Man: I believe it is in
the interest of every American
2378
01:44:27,539 --> 01:44:31,893
that we thoroughly examine our
entire criminal justice system,
2379
01:44:31,977 --> 01:44:33,895
bien: You need to care about
that person down the block
2380
01:44:33,979 --> 01:44:36,681
because the same rights
that they have, you have.
2381
01:44:36,732 --> 01:44:39,016
And if you let their rights
be compromised,
2382
01:44:39,067 --> 01:44:40,685
your rights are compromised.
2383
01:44:40,736 --> 01:44:44,355
At some point, you have to
stand up and say it's not ok.
2384
01:44:44,406 --> 01:44:46,190
Haltiwanger: You know,
if anything's
2385
01:44:46,241 --> 01:44:48,109
ever is gonna be done about
this, if this is gonna change,
2386
01:44:48,193 --> 01:44:50,495
it's gonna have to come
from the people out there,
2387
01:44:50,562 --> 01:44:52,363
they're gonna have to help,
you know.
2388
01:44:52,414 --> 01:44:54,031
We can't do it from in here.
2389
01:44:54,082 --> 01:44:56,734
Bennett: Do you know what
it's like to go home at night
2390
01:44:56,785 --> 01:45:00,505
knowing that you did
a personal injustice.
2391
01:45:00,572 --> 01:45:02,907
I did an injustice to Maurice.
2392
01:45:04,259 --> 01:45:05,743
Man: I'll amend
the charge on her
2393
01:45:05,794 --> 01:45:08,346
to a violation of unlawful
possession of marijuana,
2394
01:45:08,413 --> 01:45:10,748
22105.
2395
01:45:19,858 --> 01:45:22,560
Narrator: Back in 2008,
when I began filming,
2396
01:45:22,611 --> 01:45:24,094
despite the excitement
2397
01:45:24,146 --> 01:45:26,230
surrounding the election
of Barack Obama,
2398
01:45:26,281 --> 01:45:28,232
the thoughts nannie jeter
shared that night
2399
01:45:28,283 --> 01:45:31,068
would stay with me
more than any other.
2400
01:45:31,119 --> 01:45:32,987
Nannie: I feel I cheated myself
2401
01:45:33,071 --> 01:45:35,373
out of what I could
have accomplished,
2402
01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:39,443
like I never knew that I wanted
to be in politics,
2403
01:45:39,495 --> 01:45:43,113
to be a voice for someone,
to say what was wrong,
2404
01:45:43,165 --> 01:45:45,132
will it be changed or not,
2405
01:45:45,217 --> 01:45:48,803
but to make known
that it's wrong.
2406
01:45:51,006 --> 01:45:56,310
I've learned so much and I try
to tell it to other people,
2407
01:45:56,395 --> 01:45:58,479
but it's like people
would rather go down
2408
01:45:58,564 --> 01:46:02,316
the same road that you went down
before they learn.
2409
01:46:06,772 --> 01:46:09,240
You make mistakes through life.
2410
01:46:09,307 --> 01:46:12,109
It's like mistakes
is always there.
2411
01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:14,579
You make a lot of mistakes
with your life.
2412
01:46:14,646 --> 01:46:18,032
But when you somehow
blow your kid's life,
2413
01:46:18,116 --> 01:46:20,868
you always think about it.
2414
01:46:20,953 --> 01:46:22,837
Obama: But above all,
2415
01:46:22,921 --> 01:46:26,958
I will never forget who
this victory truly belongs to.
2416
01:46:27,009 --> 01:46:29,293
It belongs to you.
2417
01:46:29,344 --> 01:46:31,829
[Cheering]
2418
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:35,182
Nannie: I don't understand
the war on drugs.
2419
01:46:37,519 --> 01:46:40,938
All I know is...
2420
01:46:41,006 --> 01:46:43,975
I miss my son.
2421
01:47:39,698 --> 01:47:41,032
Announcer:
"Independent lens" continues
2422
01:47:41,083 --> 01:47:44,535
with a short film "as I am"
by Alan spearman.
2423
01:47:46,672 --> 01:47:48,623
Man: Imagine your dreams.
2424
01:47:48,707 --> 01:47:51,075
See what you've been through.
2425
01:47:51,126 --> 01:47:52,960
Think about yourself...
2426
01:47:53,045 --> 01:47:54,545
Where you're going...
2427
01:47:54,612 --> 01:47:56,797
Where you're from.
2428
01:47:56,882 --> 01:48:00,668
Think about
the dreams you've had...
2429
01:48:00,752 --> 01:48:05,389
The nightmares you've had.
2430
01:48:05,457 --> 01:48:07,308
I used to have nightmares
2431
01:48:07,392 --> 01:48:10,177
that I would be stuck
in a storm drain.
2432
01:48:10,262 --> 01:48:11,583
People would walk
past me for days
2433
01:48:11,629 --> 01:48:14,065
and leave me down there,
2434
01:48:14,132 --> 01:48:16,600
and I would see
and hear everything.
2435
01:48:18,437 --> 01:48:20,971
I would see people
selling and buying drugs,
2436
01:48:21,023 --> 01:48:23,941
folks fighting,
hookers, hustlers.
2437
01:48:23,992 --> 01:48:25,660
Street life.
2438
01:48:25,744 --> 01:48:27,504
My hands and arms would
just be sticking out,
2439
01:48:27,529 --> 01:48:29,030
and nobody would help me.
2440
01:48:29,114 --> 01:48:33,284
I can't pull myself
out on my own.
2441
01:48:33,335 --> 01:48:34,651
People just keep
walking past me
2442
01:48:34,703 --> 01:48:37,171
like I didn't exist.
2443
01:48:37,255 --> 01:48:39,790
What if I was never born?
2444
01:48:44,046 --> 01:48:46,430
I shouldn't be here.
2445
01:48:46,498 --> 01:48:50,184
I died when I was two.
2446
01:48:50,268 --> 01:48:51,886
Tell you the truth...
2447
01:48:51,970 --> 01:48:53,220
[Heartbeat]
2448
01:48:53,305 --> 01:48:57,692
The doctors gave up on me.
2449
01:48:57,776 --> 01:49:00,861
God brought me back.
2450
01:49:00,946 --> 01:49:05,900
I always think I got to
be here for a reason.
2451
01:49:05,984 --> 01:49:08,953
My dad got murdered,
shot more than 20 times
2452
01:49:09,020 --> 01:49:11,238
on the same streets
that I walk today.
2453
01:49:19,664 --> 01:49:22,833
You got to know the cuts.
2454
01:49:22,884 --> 01:49:25,302
Sometimes, the lines
in our hands intersect
2455
01:49:25,370 --> 01:49:27,304
like the cuts in the hood.
2456
01:49:27,372 --> 01:49:30,841
You just got to feel
your way through.
2457
01:49:30,892 --> 01:49:34,845
We take shortcuts
to stay out of sight,
2458
01:49:34,896 --> 01:49:37,431
but they just keep us
out of mind.
2459
01:49:48,076 --> 01:49:52,329
Where I'm from,
ain't no rose bushes.
2460
01:49:52,397 --> 01:49:54,115
They just sticky bushes.
2461
01:50:14,919 --> 01:50:17,021
I've had the same exact dream
2462
01:50:17,088 --> 01:50:19,023
over a thousand times.
2463
01:50:23,278 --> 01:50:25,563
I keep throwing money
out of a helicopter
2464
01:50:25,614 --> 01:50:27,281
to the homeless people.
2465
01:50:43,215 --> 01:50:46,383
It's a day-to-day struggle
2466
01:50:46,451 --> 01:50:48,469
and an everyday hustle.
2467
01:50:51,122 --> 01:50:52,956
You do what you have to.
2468
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:58,062
No matter what it is,
2469
01:50:58,129 --> 01:50:59,480
you do what you got to do.
2470
01:51:02,317 --> 01:51:05,019
We don't know
what they been through.
2471
01:51:05,103 --> 01:51:08,138
We don't know their story.
2472
01:51:08,190 --> 01:51:10,658
People just looking for a hand.
2473
01:51:10,742 --> 01:51:13,410
They say there's a better life,
2474
01:51:13,478 --> 01:51:17,314
but when you go out there
looking for that better life,
2475
01:51:17,365 --> 01:51:20,501
you don't get no help when
you try to do the right thing.
2476
01:51:27,209 --> 01:51:29,510
The streets taught
me to be hard.
2477
01:51:29,594 --> 01:51:31,495
It's hard.
2478
01:51:31,546 --> 01:51:33,664
Most times, it's too hard.
2479
01:51:37,686 --> 01:51:41,639
I shouldn't be here
2480
01:51:41,690 --> 01:51:49,690
in a blank state,
in a city with no fight,
2481
01:51:50,448 --> 01:51:54,235
in an area code with no hope,
2482
01:51:54,319 --> 01:51:57,955
in a house with no lights,
2483
01:51:58,022 --> 01:52:00,991
in a body with no soul,
2484
01:52:01,042 --> 01:52:05,496
in a mind with no goals.
2485
01:52:05,547 --> 01:52:07,381
I shouldn't be here.
2486
01:52:07,465 --> 01:52:10,867
This state shouldn't
be my life.
2487
01:52:15,423 --> 01:52:19,393
Am I lucky to be unfortunate?
2488
01:52:19,477 --> 01:52:22,897
When we dream,
we enter an empty space
2489
01:52:22,981 --> 01:52:24,881
that's filled with hope.
2490
01:52:28,403 --> 01:52:30,487
Stuff happens every day,
2491
01:52:30,555 --> 01:52:32,323
stuff you shouldn't
get used to,
2492
01:52:32,390 --> 01:52:35,192
but you do.
2493
01:52:35,243 --> 01:52:37,661
Most stuff just make you
want to give up.
2494
01:52:39,781 --> 01:52:42,583
They know deep down inside
that they'll never
2495
01:52:42,667 --> 01:52:46,737
have a mansion
or smell the ocean,
2496
01:52:46,788 --> 01:52:49,423
but they'll never admit it
2497
01:52:49,507 --> 01:52:52,409
because their minds
don't work like that.
2498
01:52:52,460 --> 01:52:55,713
You can only try so hard
to pull yourself out,
2499
01:52:55,764 --> 01:52:57,247
and if you can't,
2500
01:52:57,299 --> 01:52:59,633
you gonna pull somebody
down with you.
2501
01:53:03,471 --> 01:53:05,389
Friends turn to foe.
2502
01:53:05,440 --> 01:53:08,759
Family turn into people
you just don't know.
2503
01:53:08,810 --> 01:53:10,427
The streets are cold
2504
01:53:10,478 --> 01:53:15,399
even in the summer.
2505
01:53:15,450 --> 01:53:18,435
Two blocks from the hood,
it's a whole new world,
2506
01:53:18,486 --> 01:53:20,204
but why?
2507
01:53:20,271 --> 01:53:23,290
Is there a new world
two blocks from the hood?
2508
01:53:23,375 --> 01:53:25,709
More importantly,
why is the hood two blocks
2509
01:53:25,777 --> 01:53:28,162
from the new world?
2510
01:53:28,246 --> 01:53:32,282
How far can a flip go?
2511
01:53:32,334 --> 01:53:34,835
I don't know anyone
who can say they walked
2512
01:53:34,919 --> 01:53:38,589
in my shoes and made it
out of the hood.
2513
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:43,927
What I do know is
we're meant to connect,
2514
01:53:43,979 --> 01:53:46,430
to find each other.
2515
01:53:46,481 --> 01:53:48,482
Eyes to see,
2516
01:53:48,566 --> 01:53:51,018
hands to feel,
2517
01:53:51,102 --> 01:53:53,070
hearts to love.
2518
01:54:13,758 --> 01:54:16,627
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2519
01:54:16,695 --> 01:54:19,763
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01:54:19,831 --> 01:54:22,700
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01:54:22,767 --> 01:54:26,603
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2522
01:54:46,357 --> 01:54:47,958
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01:54:48,026 --> 01:54:50,828
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