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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 -1:58:50,167 --> -1:58:51,901 I, your host of "independent lens." 2 -1:58:51,969 --> -1:58:54,838 We keep electing officials who are tough on crime, 3 -1:58:54,905 --> -1:58:57,707 but is being tough the same as being smart? 4 -1:58:57,775 --> -1:59:01,911 For 40 years, America has waged a war against illegal narcotics. 5 -1:59:01,962 --> -1:59:05,048 The drug war has resulted in our jailing more citizens 6 -1:59:05,099 --> -1:59:07,917 than any other country in the world. 7 -1:59:07,968 --> -1:59:11,488 Yet drugs are cheaper and more available than ever before. 8 -1:59:11,555 --> -1:59:13,023 What went wrong? 9 -1:59:13,090 --> -1:59:15,558 Man: Of the 2,600 people I've sent to federal prison, 10 -1:59:15,609 --> -1:59:17,527 I've seen 3 or 4 kingpins. 11 -1:59:17,594 --> -1:59:20,814 We're incarcerating poor people who are drug addicts. 12 -1:59:20,898 --> -1:59:23,116 Tucci: Independent film director Eugene jerecki 13 -1:59:23,200 --> -1:59:27,237 gained unprecedented access to dealers, cops, jailers, judges, 14 -1:59:27,288 --> -1:59:28,771 and elected officials. 15 -1:59:28,823 --> -1:59:30,740 He captured Americans caught in a system 16 -1:59:30,791 --> -1:59:33,609 that nearly everyone agrees does more harm than good. 17 -1:59:33,661 --> -1:59:36,146 The industry of incarceration has become addicted 18 -1:59:36,213 --> -1:59:40,150 to the drug war, profiting from a steady diet of new prisoners. 19 -1:59:40,217 --> -1:59:42,218 Every war has casualties. 20 -1:59:42,286 --> -1:59:44,637 How do we protect American citizens 21 -1:59:44,722 --> -1:59:49,642 and our lauded system of justice from becoming collateral damage? 22 -1:59:49,727 --> -1:59:52,395 "The house I live in" next. 23 00:00:03,407 --> 00:00:05,842 Announcer: This program is made possible by 24 00:00:05,910 --> 00:00:08,711 the corporation for public broadcasting, 25 00:00:08,779 --> 00:00:10,747 the national endowment for the arts, 26 00:00:10,815 --> 00:00:15,151 and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. 27 00:00:15,219 --> 00:00:17,420 Thank you. 28 00:00:41,779 --> 00:00:46,366 Man: My family came to America fleeing persecution in Europe. 29 00:00:48,369 --> 00:00:51,154 For my mom's parents, it was the pogroms of Russia 30 00:00:51,205 --> 00:00:53,456 in which thousands of Jews died. 31 00:00:53,524 --> 00:00:57,327 For my dad, it was Hitler, the creation of ghettos 32 00:00:57,378 --> 00:01:01,414 and the final solution that killed millions. 33 00:01:01,416 --> 00:01:04,134 As children, my brothers and I were taught 34 00:01:04,201 --> 00:01:06,536 that we were the lucky ones who made it out. 35 00:01:06,587 --> 00:01:09,722 But with that luck came a responsibility. 36 00:01:09,807 --> 00:01:12,392 "Never again" didn't just mean that people like us 37 00:01:12,476 --> 00:01:14,093 shouldn't suffer; 38 00:01:14,178 --> 00:01:16,896 It meant others shouldn't suffer either. 39 00:01:25,406 --> 00:01:27,056 Going to join me here. 40 00:01:27,107 --> 00:01:29,067 Won't you be seated, please, ladies and gentlemen. 41 00:01:29,076 --> 00:01:30,893 Come, on, doctor, try to fit in. 42 00:01:30,945 --> 00:01:32,562 Mr. [indistinct] Mr. [indistinct] 43 00:01:32,613 --> 00:01:34,414 Fine. All right. 44 00:01:34,498 --> 00:01:37,200 Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to summarize for you 45 00:01:37,251 --> 00:01:40,537 the meeting that I have just had with bipartisan leaders. 46 00:01:40,588 --> 00:01:44,707 America's public enemy number 1 in the United States 47 00:01:44,758 --> 00:01:46,926 is drug abuse. 48 00:01:58,105 --> 00:02:00,056 Uh, gold teeth, big, in his 30s, 49 00:02:00,107 --> 00:02:01,924 and he wears, like, a turban on his head. 50 00:02:01,976 --> 00:02:03,759 Louis and the crew. 51 00:02:05,362 --> 00:02:07,430 [Car alarm] 52 00:02:30,804 --> 00:02:34,424 [Indistinct radio transmission] 53 00:02:34,475 --> 00:02:37,460 Keep in mind that school is going to let these students out 54 00:02:37,511 --> 00:02:39,846 in 15 minutes. 55 00:02:41,482 --> 00:02:45,801 Man: The discrepancy measures the distance by and which 56 00:02:45,853 --> 00:02:49,022 we have not yet attained democracy 57 00:02:49,106 --> 00:02:51,691 in these United States. 58 00:02:54,328 --> 00:02:56,863 Sure, we've got problems over this nation. 59 00:02:56,947 --> 00:03:01,167 But never forget, there's nothing wrong with America today 60 00:03:01,252 --> 00:03:03,620 that a good election won't cure. 61 00:03:03,671 --> 00:03:04,987 [Cheering] 62 00:03:05,038 --> 00:03:06,522 You go right up Charles street, right? 63 00:03:06,524 --> 00:03:07,707 Go past the light. 64 00:03:07,791 --> 00:03:08,991 Ronald Reagan: That's why I believe 65 00:03:09,043 --> 00:03:10,460 the tide of battle has turned 66 00:03:10,511 --> 00:03:14,931 and we're beginning to win the crusade for a drug free America. 67 00:03:14,998 --> 00:03:18,334 Man: What shame that we American people 68 00:03:18,385 --> 00:03:22,939 could so act and be so nonunderstanding. 69 00:03:29,063 --> 00:03:31,397 [Indistinct radio transmission] 70 00:03:41,408 --> 00:03:44,294 Man: Ok, be alert, kid. 71 00:03:45,462 --> 00:03:47,297 Man: If he doesn't put you in jail, wonderful. 72 00:03:47,364 --> 00:03:49,532 Nobody with any sense likes to go to jail, 73 00:03:49,583 --> 00:03:52,302 but if he puts you in jail, you go in that jail 74 00:03:52,369 --> 00:03:54,637 and transform it from a dungeon of shame 75 00:03:54,704 --> 00:03:56,372 to a haven of freedom and human dignity. 76 00:03:56,423 --> 00:03:57,707 [Cheering] 77 00:03:57,758 --> 00:04:02,929 Man: All of us must overcome the crippling legacy 78 00:04:03,013 --> 00:04:05,064 of bigotry and injustice. 79 00:04:05,149 --> 00:04:07,650 Obama: Let all those who have wondered if America's beacon 80 00:04:07,718 --> 00:04:11,938 still burns as bright, tonight we've proved once more 81 00:04:12,022 --> 00:04:13,889 that the true spirit of our nation 82 00:04:13,941 --> 00:04:16,576 comes from the enduring power of our ideals... 83 00:04:16,660 --> 00:04:21,914 democracy, liberty, opportunity, and unyielding hope. 84 00:04:43,253 --> 00:04:45,521 Woman: My name is nannie jeter. 85 00:04:45,589 --> 00:04:50,443 I was born in crewe, Virginia, a very small town. 86 00:04:50,527 --> 00:04:55,365 Coming north, I feel that I would prove 87 00:04:55,432 --> 00:04:57,600 that I was gonna conquer everything 88 00:04:57,668 --> 00:05:00,470 that needed to be conquered. 89 00:05:00,537 --> 00:05:03,623 Narrator: Nannie jeter was like a second mother to me. 90 00:05:03,707 --> 00:05:06,042 Though she started out working for my family, 91 00:05:06,109 --> 00:05:07,744 she was never a nannie. 92 00:05:07,795 --> 00:05:10,279 Nannie is actually her name. 93 00:05:10,347 --> 00:05:15,418 Man: � ...Left in church on Sunday morning � 94 00:05:15,469 --> 00:05:18,137 nannie: They just have some of everything. 95 00:05:18,222 --> 00:05:22,809 [Man singing indistinctly] 96 00:05:22,893 --> 00:05:26,846 Tonight is a celebration night. 97 00:05:26,930 --> 00:05:28,130 Narrator: Our families were close, 98 00:05:28,182 --> 00:05:29,515 and her children and grandchildren 99 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,634 were my playmates growing up. 100 00:05:31,685 --> 00:05:33,603 Hi, my precious! You hungry? 101 00:05:33,654 --> 00:05:36,272 But was we got older, I saw many of them struggling 102 00:05:36,323 --> 00:05:41,027 with poverty, joblessness, crime, and worse. 103 00:05:41,111 --> 00:05:42,278 Newscaster: President Obama has an advantage, 104 00:05:42,329 --> 00:05:45,314 but it's still very, very early in this night. 105 00:05:45,365 --> 00:05:47,316 Oh... 106 00:05:47,367 --> 00:05:48,501 Narrator: When I asked nannie what she thought 107 00:05:48,585 --> 00:05:49,669 might have gone wrong, 108 00:05:49,753 --> 00:05:51,671 her answer was surprisingly simple. 109 00:05:51,755 --> 00:05:53,656 Nannie: I think drugs. 110 00:05:53,707 --> 00:05:56,375 Drugs is the monster. 111 00:05:56,460 --> 00:05:58,711 The killing, the stealing, 112 00:05:58,796 --> 00:06:00,663 there's people being destroyed. 113 00:06:00,714 --> 00:06:02,882 It's devastating. 114 00:06:02,966 --> 00:06:06,102 What happened to my son with drugs, 115 00:06:06,169 --> 00:06:07,887 I would love to change that. 116 00:06:07,971 --> 00:06:09,388 Man: Drugs in America. 117 00:06:09,473 --> 00:06:10,773 Pollsters have identified that 118 00:06:10,841 --> 00:06:12,475 as the number 1 issue in this country. 119 00:06:12,526 --> 00:06:15,311 Woman: Taking drugs in growing numbers. 120 00:06:15,362 --> 00:06:18,030 Man: Doctors find out he has taken an overdose of crack. 121 00:06:18,115 --> 00:06:20,399 Woman: The battle to control the drug market is deadly. 122 00:06:20,484 --> 00:06:21,951 Man: Most of the victims are young blacks who live... 123 00:06:24,111 --> 00:06:26,330 Narrator: To understand what drugs had done 124 00:06:26,414 --> 00:06:28,498 to nannie jeter's family and others like it, 125 00:06:28,583 --> 00:06:31,117 I wanted to get out on the road to talk to people. 126 00:06:31,169 --> 00:06:34,087 Woman: I know firsthand the devastation 127 00:06:34,138 --> 00:06:39,393 we as a family have had to endure because of the drugs. 128 00:06:39,460 --> 00:06:42,062 Been here before my kids, been here before my mom, 129 00:06:42,129 --> 00:06:43,680 my sister, my dad. 130 00:06:43,765 --> 00:06:47,267 I had 2 kids, and I lost them to the streets 131 00:06:47,318 --> 00:06:48,852 because of my own problems. 132 00:06:48,937 --> 00:06:50,153 Narrator: Time and again, I learned 133 00:06:50,238 --> 00:06:52,739 how one person's struggle had grown into a crisis 134 00:06:52,807 --> 00:06:55,108 for their family and the community. 135 00:06:55,159 --> 00:06:56,476 By a show of hands, how many people here 136 00:06:56,527 --> 00:06:59,947 had any kind of drug involvement on why they're in here? 137 00:06:59,998 --> 00:07:01,198 I'm in here for selling drugs. 138 00:07:01,199 --> 00:07:03,116 I have a life and 30-year sentence. 139 00:07:03,167 --> 00:07:04,985 I killed a guy back in 1984. 140 00:07:05,036 --> 00:07:06,286 Narrator: How'd that happen? 141 00:07:06,337 --> 00:07:08,705 I just... dope and out of my head, 142 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:11,071 and I wound up shooting a guy in the mouth and killed him. 143 00:07:11,125 --> 00:07:13,010 Narrator: But as I began to look around, 144 00:07:13,094 --> 00:07:15,379 the very real problems associated with drug abuse 145 00:07:15,463 --> 00:07:18,331 began to seem just 1 part of an even larger problem 146 00:07:18,383 --> 00:07:19,883 facing the country. 147 00:07:20,802 --> 00:07:22,803 Man: It's absolutely true 148 00:07:22,854 --> 00:07:26,773 that drugs have destroyed lives, 149 00:07:26,841 --> 00:07:29,109 that heroin and cocaine, for example, 150 00:07:29,176 --> 00:07:32,312 do nothing to engender individual dignity. 151 00:07:32,363 --> 00:07:35,198 But while covering the drug war as a journalist 152 00:07:35,283 --> 00:07:37,401 for more than a decade, I came to understand 153 00:07:37,485 --> 00:07:39,319 that what drugs hadn't destroyed, 154 00:07:39,370 --> 00:07:41,204 the war against them has. 155 00:07:41,289 --> 00:07:42,739 Freeze! 156 00:07:42,824 --> 00:07:44,875 Man: The war against drugs is heating up. 157 00:07:44,959 --> 00:07:46,793 Simon: Somebody down the road said we're gonna fight war 158 00:07:46,861 --> 00:07:49,529 against illicit drugs because drugs are bad. 159 00:07:49,580 --> 00:07:52,382 Ok, there's no argument there. 160 00:07:52,467 --> 00:07:54,751 But think about where we are 30 years later. 161 00:07:54,836 --> 00:07:57,971 You know, if you look at all the money spent on drug enforcement, 162 00:07:58,039 --> 00:08:00,007 on prisons, on probation officers, 163 00:08:00,058 --> 00:08:02,876 judges, narcotics agents, on interdiction, 164 00:08:02,927 --> 00:08:05,345 and everything else that is expanded due to war on drugs, 165 00:08:05,396 --> 00:08:06,480 it gratifies us. 166 00:08:06,547 --> 00:08:08,227 It makes us feel like we're tough on crime. 167 00:08:08,266 --> 00:08:11,051 Put 'em away. Put 'em away where they belong. 168 00:08:11,119 --> 00:08:12,319 Simon: But to what end? 169 00:08:12,387 --> 00:08:14,571 We are the jailingest country on the planet 170 00:08:14,656 --> 00:08:17,658 beyond Saudi Arabia, China, or Russia. 171 00:08:17,725 --> 00:08:20,577 Nobody jails their population at the rate that we do, 172 00:08:20,662 --> 00:08:23,897 and yet drugs are purer than before, 173 00:08:23,948 --> 00:08:24,948 they're more available. 174 00:08:25,033 --> 00:08:26,232 There are younger and younger kids 175 00:08:26,284 --> 00:08:27,501 willing to sell them. 176 00:08:27,568 --> 00:08:29,369 It would be one thing if it was draconian and it worked, 177 00:08:29,420 --> 00:08:32,072 but it's draconian and it doesn't work. 178 00:08:32,123 --> 00:08:33,790 It just leads to more. 179 00:08:54,946 --> 00:08:57,948 [Siren] 180 00:09:04,789 --> 00:09:06,773 Weed? 181 00:09:08,376 --> 00:09:11,712 [Indistinct chatter] 182 00:09:11,779 --> 00:09:14,297 Making it work for the old men. 183 00:09:14,382 --> 00:09:17,617 I'm gonna really... They gave all of that. 184 00:09:31,465 --> 00:09:34,534 Shanequa: I'm not a big, super drug dealer, 185 00:09:34,602 --> 00:09:37,487 yeah. Yeah, I got some weed, so... 186 00:09:37,572 --> 00:09:38,905 I do what I have to do. 187 00:09:38,973 --> 00:09:39,940 I know how to survive. 188 00:09:39,991 --> 00:09:41,975 You know, this and that if I have to. 189 00:09:42,026 --> 00:09:44,361 It's not hard to tell that these are the junkies, right? 190 00:09:44,445 --> 00:09:46,079 Man: Hey, get out of here with that! 191 00:09:46,147 --> 00:09:48,698 I think the economy thrives with the drug money. 192 00:09:48,783 --> 00:09:50,867 We got judges that's getting high, too. 193 00:09:50,952 --> 00:09:52,869 We've got cops that's sniffing coke. 194 00:09:52,954 --> 00:09:54,337 We got people with good, white, college eyes 195 00:09:54,422 --> 00:09:57,124 that can afford to have it, and that's the only difference. 196 00:09:57,175 --> 00:09:59,760 Yeah, the boys is behind us. The boys is behind us. 197 00:09:59,827 --> 00:10:03,463 When I think about people living in inner-city neighborhoods, 198 00:10:03,514 --> 00:10:07,601 they live off the principle of equality of life chances. 199 00:10:07,668 --> 00:10:11,104 You should not be able to enter a hospital ward 200 00:10:11,172 --> 00:10:14,307 in an inner-city hospital of newborn babies 201 00:10:14,358 --> 00:10:16,610 and predict with near certainty 202 00:10:16,677 --> 00:10:20,313 on the basis of their class, background, and race 203 00:10:20,364 --> 00:10:23,867 where these kids, where these healthy newborn babies 204 00:10:23,951 --> 00:10:26,369 are gonna end up in life. 205 00:10:26,454 --> 00:10:29,122 Shanequa: The dope block. That's what this is. 206 00:10:29,190 --> 00:10:30,907 77 romwell towers. 207 00:10:30,992 --> 00:10:32,209 I got it on my arm. 208 00:10:32,293 --> 00:10:35,629 This is where I'm from. For now. 209 00:10:35,696 --> 00:10:38,632 Simon: Every war starts with propaganda. 210 00:10:38,699 --> 00:10:40,050 But with the drug war, 211 00:10:40,134 --> 00:10:43,720 our definition of what a drug user or drug seller is... 212 00:10:43,805 --> 00:10:46,139 Woman: What did your mommy tell you about drugs? 213 00:10:46,207 --> 00:10:47,140 Come on, try it. 214 00:10:47,208 --> 00:10:48,341 Simon: It became almost 215 00:10:48,392 --> 00:10:50,677 a wartime cartoon of the enemy. 216 00:10:50,728 --> 00:10:52,646 Weed, coke, crack... your choice. 217 00:10:52,697 --> 00:10:54,815 Some folks will tell you that I'm dealing in poison, 218 00:10:54,866 --> 00:10:56,733 but hey, do I look like the kind of guy 219 00:10:56,818 --> 00:10:58,568 that would do that to a kid like you? 220 00:10:58,653 --> 00:11:01,238 Simon: But the truth is the drugs aren't yours. 221 00:11:01,322 --> 00:11:02,372 You're just a Minion. 222 00:11:02,456 --> 00:11:04,190 You're somebody without any real authority 223 00:11:04,242 --> 00:11:06,025 selling somebody else's dope. 224 00:11:06,077 --> 00:11:08,157 It's like fearing a guy who's at the drive-out window 225 00:11:08,195 --> 00:11:09,246 at the burger king. 226 00:11:09,330 --> 00:11:12,198 Shanequa: Basically it's just about survival. 227 00:11:12,250 --> 00:11:14,200 I feel like sometimes, like, cops, 228 00:11:14,252 --> 00:11:17,921 they view you as, "oh, you live over here." 229 00:11:18,005 --> 00:11:19,539 But they don't view you as, like, 230 00:11:19,590 --> 00:11:22,759 was it your choice? 231 00:11:23,711 --> 00:11:27,898 Man: � I was born in a dump 232 00:11:29,183 --> 00:11:34,487 � my mama died, and my daddy got drunk � 233 00:11:34,555 --> 00:11:38,825 � he left me here to die or grow � 234 00:11:38,893 --> 00:11:41,194 man: I wouldn't want to work anywhere else. 235 00:11:41,245 --> 00:11:44,731 I feel the need to be here as a minority supervisor. 236 00:11:44,782 --> 00:11:47,901 It's predominantly a minority neighborhood. 237 00:11:47,952 --> 00:11:51,070 Police station for what? [indistinct] 238 00:11:51,122 --> 00:11:53,006 What we deal with here 239 00:11:53,073 --> 00:11:55,208 is a lot of lower-level narcotic activity. 240 00:11:55,259 --> 00:11:56,710 Well, what we do to drugs, 241 00:11:56,761 --> 00:11:58,712 we do mostly drugs and prostitution. 242 00:11:58,763 --> 00:11:59,713 [Radio beeps] 243 00:11:59,764 --> 00:12:00,630 Go ahead, papi. 244 00:12:00,715 --> 00:12:01,798 Man: We're good to go. 245 00:12:01,883 --> 00:12:04,968 I'm gonna go in and hit the... 246 00:12:05,052 --> 00:12:06,136 Copy of the warrant, 247 00:12:06,220 --> 00:12:07,687 get all of the gear, so... 248 00:12:07,755 --> 00:12:10,140 All right, I'll start making my way up there. 249 00:12:10,224 --> 00:12:14,611 There are sometimes I think you can trace any crime you want 250 00:12:14,695 --> 00:12:16,146 to drugs. 251 00:12:16,230 --> 00:12:18,765 Speaking of drug users or abusers... 252 00:12:18,816 --> 00:12:20,283 Magic man! 253 00:12:20,368 --> 00:12:23,102 What's up, dawg? 254 00:12:23,154 --> 00:12:24,237 Please, can I get the... 255 00:12:24,288 --> 00:12:26,323 You still ain't drinking, right? 256 00:12:26,407 --> 00:12:28,074 Dude, you still ain't drinking, right? 257 00:12:28,125 --> 00:12:29,075 No. 258 00:12:29,126 --> 00:12:29,993 How long has it been? 259 00:12:30,077 --> 00:12:31,277 Sober. I've been shopping, man. 260 00:12:31,295 --> 00:12:32,412 How long has it been? 261 00:12:32,463 --> 00:12:33,580 Probably been 2 months now. 262 00:12:33,631 --> 00:12:35,582 Good for you. All right, bro. 263 00:12:35,633 --> 00:12:37,300 You have a good one, brothers. 264 00:12:37,385 --> 00:12:39,135 The magic man for 90. 265 00:12:39,220 --> 00:12:40,887 He's been around forever. 266 00:12:40,955 --> 00:12:43,223 Man: We like to look at the war on drugs 267 00:12:43,290 --> 00:12:45,725 as black hats and white hats and good guys and bad guys 268 00:12:45,793 --> 00:12:47,293 and victims and offenders, 269 00:12:47,345 --> 00:12:50,931 and on the ground, it's a lot more mixed up than that. 270 00:12:50,982 --> 00:12:52,182 Go ahead, Chet. 271 00:12:52,266 --> 00:12:53,967 The guy on Charles street just re-upped. 272 00:12:54,018 --> 00:12:55,185 With powder and weed. 273 00:12:55,269 --> 00:12:57,654 Man: Well, the drugs are never gonna be gone. 274 00:12:57,738 --> 00:13:00,073 That's... forget that. 275 00:13:00,140 --> 00:13:02,192 To say you're gonna be drug free completely, 276 00:13:02,276 --> 00:13:03,443 ha ha! 277 00:13:04,578 --> 00:13:07,197 In drug work, you never really get that... 278 00:13:07,281 --> 00:13:09,449 Satisfaction, I suppose. 279 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:11,117 'Cause you don't get rid of drugs. 280 00:13:11,168 --> 00:13:14,087 I mean, along the way you have small victories here and there, 281 00:13:14,154 --> 00:13:15,655 but if you look at the big picture, 282 00:13:15,706 --> 00:13:16,990 are we getting anywhere? 283 00:13:17,041 --> 00:13:19,793 And you could certainly be frustrated. 284 00:13:19,844 --> 00:13:21,845 Man: Go get 'em. I'll come around. 285 00:13:21,929 --> 00:13:24,330 Don't let 'em run. 286 00:13:24,382 --> 00:13:27,634 Get out. Police. Don't move. 287 00:13:27,685 --> 00:13:29,970 [Indistinct chatter] 288 00:13:34,008 --> 00:13:35,108 I'm gonna get you the search warrant. 289 00:13:35,175 --> 00:13:36,810 Sit tight. 290 00:13:36,861 --> 00:13:39,479 Woo! Wow! You can smell it in here! 291 00:13:39,530 --> 00:13:40,563 You want a haircut? 292 00:13:40,648 --> 00:13:41,564 No. 293 00:13:41,649 --> 00:13:42,565 You sure? Positive. 294 00:13:42,650 --> 00:13:43,566 I can practice. 295 00:13:43,651 --> 00:13:44,484 No. 296 00:13:44,535 --> 00:13:45,902 Chip, he's got cocaine residue 297 00:13:45,987 --> 00:13:46,987 on his scales, too. 298 00:13:47,038 --> 00:13:48,071 [Telephone rings] 299 00:13:48,155 --> 00:13:50,874 Hello. Yeah, baby. 300 00:13:50,958 --> 00:13:53,243 I'm in the middle of doing something, honey. 301 00:13:53,327 --> 00:13:55,829 Why? Bye, hon. 302 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,697 Fabio: Just doing my job, buddy. 303 00:13:57,748 --> 00:13:59,198 I hear you. I'm not mad. 304 00:13:59,250 --> 00:14:00,550 I made the mistake to do this. 305 00:14:00,634 --> 00:14:04,087 I did it, and I'll deal with the consequences. 306 00:14:05,339 --> 00:14:07,841 Kennedy: If you talk to people in law enforcement, 307 00:14:07,892 --> 00:14:11,377 they believe that the community is completely corrupt. 308 00:14:11,429 --> 00:14:12,545 Want to buy some weed? 309 00:14:12,596 --> 00:14:14,213 Nah, I'm straight. 310 00:14:14,265 --> 00:14:16,149 How about coke? You want to buy some coke? 311 00:14:16,216 --> 00:14:19,436 Kennedy: They believe everybody is living off drug money, 312 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,821 that there is no moral center. 313 00:14:21,889 --> 00:14:25,992 They see communities that blame everybody but themselves 314 00:14:26,060 --> 00:14:27,560 for what's going on, 315 00:14:27,611 --> 00:14:29,863 and then you talk to those communities, 316 00:14:29,914 --> 00:14:33,366 and they genuinely believe that law enforcement 317 00:14:33,417 --> 00:14:37,670 is using drug laws to destroy the community. 318 00:14:37,738 --> 00:14:42,542 Over time, I have discovered that everybody involved 319 00:14:42,593 --> 00:14:45,095 hates what's going on. 320 00:14:49,083 --> 00:14:52,185 Man: It's interesting this war on drugs, 321 00:14:52,252 --> 00:14:54,938 how little the American people know. 322 00:14:55,022 --> 00:14:56,255 Never thought about it before. 323 00:14:56,307 --> 00:14:58,024 How people feel about drugs and everything like that? 324 00:14:58,092 --> 00:15:00,193 That's what you mean a war on drugs? 325 00:15:00,260 --> 00:15:02,095 Narrator: As I started to ask around, 326 00:15:02,146 --> 00:15:04,614 I found that if people knew anything about the war on drugs, 327 00:15:04,698 --> 00:15:07,317 they thought I was talking about something in a foreign country. 328 00:15:07,401 --> 00:15:09,652 Man: 6,500 people died in Mexico 329 00:15:09,737 --> 00:15:11,771 in drug-related violence last year. 330 00:15:11,822 --> 00:15:14,574 Narrator: Yet surprisingly very few seemed to have any idea 331 00:15:14,625 --> 00:15:17,210 of the war going on in their own country. 332 00:15:17,278 --> 00:15:20,296 I haven't heard the term "war on drugs" since the '80s. 333 00:15:20,381 --> 00:15:23,249 Bowden: The biggest drug industry in the world 334 00:15:23,300 --> 00:15:26,452 isn't in Mexico, it's not in Colombia, 335 00:15:26,504 --> 00:15:28,287 it's not in Afghanistan, 336 00:15:28,339 --> 00:15:30,256 it's in the United States. 337 00:15:30,307 --> 00:15:33,560 Man: We in the United States, perhaps our dirty little secret 338 00:15:33,627 --> 00:15:38,798 is that between $10 and $16 billion are spent by Americans 339 00:15:38,849 --> 00:15:41,101 to pay for these illegal drugs, 340 00:15:41,152 --> 00:15:43,319 creating a demand. 341 00:15:43,404 --> 00:15:44,988 Man: The thing with the war on drugs is 342 00:15:45,072 --> 00:15:46,139 it tries to deal with a health problem 343 00:15:46,190 --> 00:15:48,074 as if it was a legal problem. 344 00:15:48,142 --> 00:15:50,143 Addiction is an effect of human unhappiness 345 00:15:50,194 --> 00:15:51,578 and human suffering. 346 00:15:51,645 --> 00:15:54,497 When people are distressed, they want to soothe their distress. 347 00:15:54,582 --> 00:15:57,117 When people are in pain, they want to soothe their pain. 348 00:15:57,168 --> 00:15:59,285 So the real question is not why the addiction, 349 00:15:59,336 --> 00:16:00,920 but why the pain? 350 00:16:00,988 --> 00:16:05,125 Bowden: One of the realities is most people getting arrested 351 00:16:05,176 --> 00:16:07,343 in this country for drugs 352 00:16:07,428 --> 00:16:09,929 are selling drugs to support their own habit. 353 00:16:09,997 --> 00:16:11,764 And if you stand in a federal court, 354 00:16:11,832 --> 00:16:14,017 you're watching poor, uneducated people 355 00:16:14,101 --> 00:16:18,221 be fed into a machine like meat to make sausage. 356 00:16:18,305 --> 00:16:21,691 It's just bang, bang, bang, next. 357 00:16:26,814 --> 00:16:28,314 Man: My mother used to tell me 358 00:16:28,365 --> 00:16:31,117 I was gonna die before I turned 18. 359 00:16:31,185 --> 00:16:33,319 I think I believed that... 360 00:16:33,370 --> 00:16:36,156 From when I was like 14 years old. 361 00:16:36,207 --> 00:16:37,740 That's when I really started gang banging. 362 00:16:37,825 --> 00:16:40,376 I started getting in fights and stuff like that. 363 00:16:40,461 --> 00:16:42,712 Now, I'm 28 years old, 364 00:16:42,796 --> 00:16:47,217 being sentenced for 50 grams of crack cocaine. 365 00:16:47,301 --> 00:16:49,035 Man: I am mark Bennett, 366 00:16:49,086 --> 00:16:50,720 United States district court judge 367 00:16:50,804 --> 00:16:53,056 for the northern district of Iowa. 368 00:16:53,140 --> 00:16:54,807 And in my 15 years, 369 00:16:54,875 --> 00:16:58,745 I've sent over 2,600 people to federal prison. 370 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:08,938 Man: I grew up around gang members and drug dealers. 371 00:17:09,023 --> 00:17:12,075 Them was my role models. 372 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:14,694 Coming in here today, 373 00:17:14,745 --> 00:17:17,897 Maurice haltiwanger's best chance, best chance, 374 00:17:17,948 --> 00:17:21,084 is a sentence of 20 years. 375 00:17:21,168 --> 00:17:22,489 Narrator: Drug laws, it turns out, 376 00:17:22,503 --> 00:17:25,622 often carry what are called mandatory minimum sentences, 377 00:17:25,706 --> 00:17:28,258 below which a judge cannot sentence the defendant 378 00:17:28,342 --> 00:17:30,760 no matter what the circumstance is. 379 00:17:30,844 --> 00:17:32,595 Mcgough: You've got a guy like Maurice haltiwanger 380 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,598 who grows up in a bad family situation 381 00:17:35,683 --> 00:17:39,585 with heartbreaking details of how he got where he is today. 382 00:17:39,637 --> 00:17:41,798 But even if judge Bennett wanted to give him a sentence 383 00:17:41,805 --> 00:17:44,774 below 20 years, he can't. 384 00:17:44,858 --> 00:17:48,978 Haltiwanger: My mother was addicted to drugs. 385 00:17:49,063 --> 00:17:52,148 I don't remember my father at all. 386 00:17:52,233 --> 00:17:53,483 Man: Why? 387 00:17:53,567 --> 00:17:56,653 He got killed when I was, like, 3 years old. 388 00:17:56,737 --> 00:17:57,954 There was a lot of death around me. 389 00:17:58,038 --> 00:17:59,322 I seen a lot of people die. 390 00:17:59,406 --> 00:18:00,873 I got a lot of friends that's dead. 391 00:18:00,941 --> 00:18:04,294 But... Huh. 392 00:18:04,378 --> 00:18:07,830 It could have been worse. 393 00:18:10,417 --> 00:18:11,668 [Gavel pounds] 394 00:18:11,752 --> 00:18:13,920 Woman: All rise. 395 00:18:43,701 --> 00:18:45,535 Man: We're here in the Bible belt, 396 00:18:45,619 --> 00:18:47,587 you know, law and order Oklahoma, 397 00:18:47,654 --> 00:18:50,323 the prison is the largest employer in the county. 398 00:18:50,374 --> 00:18:51,958 The employees live all around here, 399 00:18:52,009 --> 00:18:56,512 and if you take out a prison, the town would just dry up. 400 00:18:56,597 --> 00:18:58,717 Man: I don't know that there's a job I could do better 401 00:18:58,766 --> 00:19:00,216 in the whole world. 402 00:19:00,301 --> 00:19:02,001 I guess they should have wrote "prison guard" on my forehead 403 00:19:02,052 --> 00:19:04,687 when I was born because it just fits me. 404 00:19:04,772 --> 00:19:07,807 The job was built for me. 405 00:19:10,894 --> 00:19:12,455 Franklin: You know, we incarcerate women 406 00:19:12,512 --> 00:19:15,031 at the highest per capita rate in the nation. 407 00:19:15,115 --> 00:19:17,700 Males have been incarcerated, I believe, the third highest rate. 408 00:19:17,785 --> 00:19:18,901 How you doing? 409 00:19:18,986 --> 00:19:20,453 We have 1,500 inmates. 410 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,989 The majority are drug or drug-related crimes. 411 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,209 Man: I'm here on a 12-year drug trafficking sentence, 412 00:19:26,293 --> 00:19:28,161 trafficking crack cocaine. 413 00:19:28,212 --> 00:19:31,097 I'm 34 years old. I've been here since I was 23. 414 00:19:31,165 --> 00:19:34,233 I'm doing a life sentence for second-degree murder. 415 00:19:34,301 --> 00:19:38,171 I killed a guy buying a bad drug deal in Oklahoma city. 416 00:19:38,222 --> 00:19:40,302 Never been high on a piece of dope in my entire life, 417 00:19:40,307 --> 00:19:42,759 but I've sold tons of it unfortunately. 418 00:19:42,843 --> 00:19:45,044 Carpenter: We have a nice secure facility. 419 00:19:45,095 --> 00:19:46,456 I can keep anybody you want to keep 420 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,848 and I can keep 'em for as long as you want to keep 'em. 421 00:19:48,899 --> 00:19:51,851 The facility itself is as secure as it can get. 422 00:19:51,902 --> 00:19:53,936 Lift your genitals up. 423 00:19:54,021 --> 00:19:56,439 Turn around and spread your butt. 424 00:19:57,524 --> 00:19:59,409 Spread it with your hands. 425 00:20:01,161 --> 00:20:02,745 Narrator: As it turns out, 426 00:20:02,830 --> 00:20:04,580 drug laws have become so harsh 427 00:20:04,665 --> 00:20:07,400 that even the nonviolent can now be locked up for sentences 428 00:20:07,451 --> 00:20:10,036 once reserved for violent crimes. 429 00:20:10,087 --> 00:20:12,955 Franklin: I think a lot of times we lock up everybody 430 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,624 just because we're mad at them. 431 00:20:14,708 --> 00:20:16,876 We need to lock up the people that we're afraid of. 432 00:20:16,927 --> 00:20:17,967 They need to be locked up, 433 00:20:18,045 --> 00:20:20,930 but not the people that we're mad at. 434 00:20:28,772 --> 00:20:30,306 Carpenter: I mean, I'm a law and order guy. 435 00:20:30,391 --> 00:20:33,976 I'm a firm believer, no free rides. 436 00:20:34,061 --> 00:20:38,114 Here, you recognize that your chances to manipulate the system 437 00:20:38,198 --> 00:20:39,615 are done. 438 00:20:39,700 --> 00:20:42,068 That door slams behind you, 439 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,737 and you have absolutely no ability to control 440 00:20:44,788 --> 00:20:46,539 what goes on on the other side of that door. 441 00:20:46,606 --> 00:20:48,124 And you can't open the door. 442 00:20:48,208 --> 00:20:50,326 This is where most people, if they're a newcomer, 443 00:20:50,411 --> 00:20:53,629 a first-time offender, where they really figure out 444 00:20:53,714 --> 00:20:55,248 that this is prison, 445 00:20:55,299 --> 00:21:00,920 and this is what the next 5, 10, 15, 20, 30 years of your life 446 00:21:00,971 --> 00:21:02,889 looks like, this is it. 447 00:21:02,956 --> 00:21:05,958 [Door slams shut] 448 00:21:09,730 --> 00:21:12,298 Narrator: While following the steps 449 00:21:12,349 --> 00:21:13,516 that so many Americans take 450 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:14,800 through the world of the drug war, 451 00:21:14,852 --> 00:21:17,320 I couldn't help but notice that at every stage, 452 00:21:17,404 --> 00:21:20,239 black Americans were disproportionately represented. 453 00:21:20,307 --> 00:21:22,548 Woman: You know, in any war, you've got to have an enemy, 454 00:21:22,576 --> 00:21:24,911 and when you think about the impact particularly 455 00:21:24,978 --> 00:21:26,696 on poor people of color, 456 00:21:26,780 --> 00:21:30,199 there are more African Americans under correctional control today 457 00:21:30,284 --> 00:21:32,919 in prison or jail, on probation or parole 458 00:21:32,986 --> 00:21:35,838 than were enslaved in 1850, 459 00:21:35,923 --> 00:21:38,257 a decade before the civil war began. 460 00:21:38,325 --> 00:21:40,927 And that's something we haven't been willing 461 00:21:40,994 --> 00:21:42,929 to look in the mirror and ask ourselves, 462 00:21:42,996 --> 00:21:45,014 "what's really going on?" 463 00:21:45,098 --> 00:21:46,682 Narrator: As it turns out, 464 00:21:46,767 --> 00:21:48,601 nearly everyone I talked to knew all about 465 00:21:48,668 --> 00:21:50,853 the impact of the drug war on black America. 466 00:21:50,938 --> 00:21:54,190 Man: There's no question that the criminal laws impact 467 00:21:54,274 --> 00:21:57,527 disproportionately on poor and minorities. 468 00:21:57,611 --> 00:21:59,645 Correia: Certainly a disproportionate number 469 00:21:59,696 --> 00:22:01,180 of black people are prosecuted. 470 00:22:01,231 --> 00:22:02,648 Narrator: Yet while people could tell me all about 471 00:22:02,699 --> 00:22:04,650 their first-hand experience with this, 472 00:22:04,701 --> 00:22:07,954 very few had any idea where it came from. 473 00:22:08,021 --> 00:22:12,024 Newscaster: Here's America as you can I like to think of it, 474 00:22:12,075 --> 00:22:15,328 the land of the free and the home of the brave. 475 00:22:15,379 --> 00:22:18,498 But from every part of the nation come newspaper headlines 476 00:22:18,549 --> 00:22:20,833 telling us of an enemy, 477 00:22:20,884 --> 00:22:23,219 America's secret enemy number 1. 478 00:22:23,303 --> 00:22:28,758 Woman: � summertime 479 00:22:28,842 --> 00:22:36,265 � and the living is easy 480 00:22:36,350 --> 00:22:39,635 Simon: The drug war began as a war on dangerous narcotics, 481 00:22:39,686 --> 00:22:41,771 at least on its face. 482 00:22:41,838 --> 00:22:43,272 You know, you can trace modern drug enforcement 483 00:22:43,340 --> 00:22:45,024 back to the early '50s 484 00:22:45,108 --> 00:22:46,976 when you started to see the rise 485 00:22:47,027 --> 00:22:48,861 of the sort of urban narcotics squads, 486 00:22:48,946 --> 00:22:50,780 the narc. 487 00:22:50,847 --> 00:22:52,982 Newscaster: Government agencies charged with the enforcement 488 00:22:53,033 --> 00:22:56,319 of narcotics laws have been able until recently 489 00:22:56,370 --> 00:23:00,623 to decrease steadily the number of addicts in the United States. 490 00:23:00,690 --> 00:23:03,543 Simon: It was at least plausible as a policy 491 00:23:03,627 --> 00:23:05,461 because the use of dangerous narcotics 492 00:23:05,528 --> 00:23:07,863 was truly a counterculture. 493 00:23:09,383 --> 00:23:11,624 It was the jazz man's license, it was in the back alleys. 494 00:23:11,635 --> 00:23:12,885 It was furtive. 495 00:23:12,970 --> 00:23:14,091 There was no mass marketing. 496 00:23:14,171 --> 00:23:16,055 There were no drive-up drug corners. 497 00:23:16,139 --> 00:23:19,926 It was a very small percentage of the American population 498 00:23:20,010 --> 00:23:22,711 that was engaged in the use of heroin or cocaine. 499 00:23:22,763 --> 00:23:24,263 That's him. 500 00:23:24,348 --> 00:23:26,432 Narrator: In the 1950s as drug use was growing 501 00:23:26,516 --> 00:23:28,351 among Americans of all background, 502 00:23:28,402 --> 00:23:30,353 law enforcement became increasingly focused 503 00:23:30,404 --> 00:23:33,489 on 1 group in particular. 504 00:23:33,556 --> 00:23:36,158 Why did you turn the dogs loose on the policemen? 505 00:23:36,226 --> 00:23:37,526 Man: Are you telling me that this happened 506 00:23:37,578 --> 00:23:38,444 or are you asking me? 507 00:23:38,528 --> 00:23:39,528 I'm asking you. 508 00:23:39,580 --> 00:23:40,529 No! 509 00:23:40,581 --> 00:23:42,782 Were there narcotics in there? 510 00:23:42,866 --> 00:23:46,285 Man: � well, I have a family, born free � 511 00:23:46,370 --> 00:23:50,239 � I guess that's the way it's supposed to be � 512 00:23:50,290 --> 00:23:52,758 there's no question that there was a passion with which 513 00:23:52,843 --> 00:23:54,710 the early narcotics enforcement culture 514 00:23:54,761 --> 00:23:56,796 pursued black America, 515 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,714 even though the addict population was always 516 00:23:58,765 --> 00:24:00,967 distinctly biracial. 517 00:24:01,051 --> 00:24:04,220 Narrator: In the 1960s, drug use grew widespread in America, 518 00:24:04,271 --> 00:24:06,639 but for black communities, increasing poverty 519 00:24:06,723 --> 00:24:09,809 pushed the sale and use of drugs most often onto the street, 520 00:24:09,893 --> 00:24:12,645 making them an even greater target for law enforcement. 521 00:24:12,729 --> 00:24:14,730 Simon: By the late '60s, 522 00:24:14,781 --> 00:24:16,866 most urban areas had a mass market for drugs. 523 00:24:16,933 --> 00:24:18,451 By the '80s, you're really looking at 524 00:24:18,535 --> 00:24:20,936 the drive-thru window, you were looking at McDonald's. 525 00:24:20,988 --> 00:24:23,406 At that point, you can't claim that you're trying to isolate 526 00:24:23,457 --> 00:24:25,324 a countercultural phenomenon. 527 00:24:25,409 --> 00:24:28,244 You're fighting a war against a whole community. 528 00:24:28,295 --> 00:24:36,295 Woman: � amazing grace 529 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:44,093 � how sweet the sound 530 00:24:44,144 --> 00:24:45,678 narrator: In October 2009, 531 00:24:45,762 --> 00:24:47,930 I joined nannie jeter at the funeral of a family member 532 00:24:47,981 --> 00:24:49,815 I'd known growing up. 533 00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:53,069 Over the years, drugs had deeply affected her life, 534 00:24:53,136 --> 00:24:56,772 and the event brought back difficult memories for nannie. 535 00:24:56,823 --> 00:25:02,578 Nannie: My son James, he died in '89 or '87. 536 00:25:02,645 --> 00:25:05,865 I can't quite remember. 537 00:25:05,949 --> 00:25:10,619 Before he died, he said, "mommy, I'm just tired of it. 538 00:25:10,671 --> 00:25:11,871 "I cannot live this life. 539 00:25:11,955 --> 00:25:14,156 "It doesn't matter what I do. 540 00:25:14,207 --> 00:25:16,359 I just want to die." 541 00:25:16,426 --> 00:25:19,845 All I know, my son used the needle. 542 00:25:19,930 --> 00:25:21,690 Narrator: Though I'd known about James' death 543 00:25:21,765 --> 00:25:23,049 at the time it happened, 544 00:25:23,133 --> 00:25:25,101 I didn't know the extent of his addiction 545 00:25:25,168 --> 00:25:27,470 nor how widely drugs and the drug war 546 00:25:27,521 --> 00:25:29,105 had affected nannie's family. 547 00:25:29,172 --> 00:25:31,223 It wasn't until I started catching up 548 00:25:31,308 --> 00:25:32,358 with childhood friends... 549 00:25:32,442 --> 00:25:33,809 You're kidding me. 550 00:25:33,860 --> 00:25:36,278 That I began to realize the full extent of it. 551 00:25:36,346 --> 00:25:38,347 Man: Any bastard of our family. 552 00:25:38,398 --> 00:25:41,984 I didn't realize my father was into... was a heroin addict. 553 00:25:42,035 --> 00:25:44,787 Yeah. I got the news in channels. Ha ha. 554 00:25:44,854 --> 00:25:46,822 How come you didn't tell me? 555 00:25:46,873 --> 00:25:48,040 Drugs. 556 00:25:48,125 --> 00:25:50,376 The war on drugs has been going on for so long, man, 557 00:25:50,460 --> 00:25:52,328 it's tough. 558 00:25:52,379 --> 00:25:54,413 That one there, man, I just got to say 559 00:25:54,498 --> 00:25:56,999 God got to intervene on this. 560 00:25:57,050 --> 00:25:58,584 Narrator: Again and again, I heard how drug laws 561 00:25:58,668 --> 00:26:01,554 had done more to punish individuals and their loves ones 562 00:26:01,638 --> 00:26:04,640 than to mount a serious effort to prevent drug abuse. 563 00:26:04,707 --> 00:26:07,709 But if this is what the drug was was doing to nannie's family, 564 00:26:07,761 --> 00:26:10,062 what was it doing to other families? 565 00:26:10,147 --> 00:26:12,648 There's a structural problem in the country 566 00:26:12,715 --> 00:26:14,066 that we keep ignoring. 567 00:26:14,151 --> 00:26:17,486 We have 2 million people in our jails and prisons, 568 00:26:17,554 --> 00:26:19,234 and a million of them are African American, 569 00:26:19,239 --> 00:26:20,272 most of them are males, 570 00:26:20,357 --> 00:26:22,158 many of them for nonviolent drug offenses. 571 00:26:22,225 --> 00:26:24,560 That is a pattern that has overwhelmed 572 00:26:24,611 --> 00:26:26,162 the African American community 573 00:26:26,229 --> 00:26:27,729 because we're getting a whole generation of kids 574 00:26:27,781 --> 00:26:30,399 who now have the assumption that they're destined 575 00:26:30,450 --> 00:26:32,084 to be in the criminal justice system. 576 00:26:32,169 --> 00:26:34,286 What people need to see today 577 00:26:34,371 --> 00:26:37,089 is that the next generation of children right now 578 00:26:37,174 --> 00:26:40,843 with the barriers they face aren't going to be like I was 579 00:26:40,910 --> 00:26:44,346 or like my parents were or like my grandparents were, 580 00:26:44,414 --> 00:26:47,383 a generation better than those who preceded them. 581 00:26:58,028 --> 00:26:59,478 Man: At the precinct, they told me my charge 582 00:26:59,563 --> 00:27:01,147 was a conspiracy charge, 583 00:27:01,231 --> 00:27:03,599 conspiracy of 50 grams or more. 584 00:27:03,650 --> 00:27:05,234 Shh... 585 00:27:05,285 --> 00:27:06,786 I messed up. 586 00:27:06,870 --> 00:27:11,273 That's all I'm thinking about is I messed up. 587 00:27:15,378 --> 00:27:18,614 A reputed member of a notorious drug gang 588 00:27:18,665 --> 00:27:21,050 was caught in a drug bust in st,. Albans today. 589 00:27:21,117 --> 00:27:23,803 Man: 24-year-old Anthony Johnson of New York was arrested 590 00:27:23,887 --> 00:27:26,088 along with 2 other people during a drug raid. 591 00:27:26,139 --> 00:27:28,140 Investigators said Johnson had been bringing crack 592 00:27:28,225 --> 00:27:31,060 from New York to sell in Vermont. 593 00:27:34,314 --> 00:27:38,400 Man: Right now you've pled guilty to a charge 594 00:27:38,468 --> 00:27:41,270 which requires a 5-year-mandatory minimum. 595 00:27:41,321 --> 00:27:42,404 You know what that means? 596 00:27:42,472 --> 00:27:43,772 I can't get less than 5 years. 597 00:27:43,824 --> 00:27:46,808 That seems harsh when you think about the fact 598 00:27:46,860 --> 00:27:48,644 that he is not violent at all. 599 00:27:48,695 --> 00:27:50,996 So it's critical to present Anthony 600 00:27:51,081 --> 00:27:53,415 as far more than a drug dealer. 601 00:27:53,483 --> 00:27:55,883 Woman: John pacht is one of the best criminal defense lawyers 602 00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:57,620 in Vermont, and he came to me and says, 603 00:27:57,671 --> 00:28:00,172 "Susan, I really need your help with this kid." 604 00:28:00,257 --> 00:28:01,790 I really believe that he was, you know, 605 00:28:01,842 --> 00:28:04,793 in the wrong place, didn't have a lot of options. 606 00:28:04,845 --> 00:28:08,047 Narrator: Though Anthony Johnson was arrested in rural Vermont, 607 00:28:08,131 --> 00:28:10,716 he is originally from the very same New York housing project 608 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,386 where he first met shanequa benitez. 609 00:28:14,471 --> 00:28:15,971 So you know Anthony? Yeah. 610 00:28:16,022 --> 00:28:18,641 Anthony Johnson, he's 24 years old, 611 00:28:18,692 --> 00:28:21,477 and he's looking at 5-40 years of jail. 612 00:28:21,528 --> 00:28:23,562 You know, by the time he gets out, 613 00:28:23,647 --> 00:28:25,281 he won't have a life. 614 00:28:25,348 --> 00:28:26,982 Narrator: Following Anthony's legal team 615 00:28:27,033 --> 00:28:29,952 as they investigated the steps leading to his arrest, 616 00:28:30,019 --> 00:28:33,822 I started to learn more about where he came from. 617 00:28:33,874 --> 00:28:36,625 More clearly than before, I could see how the vicious cycle 618 00:28:36,693 --> 00:28:39,912 of the drug wars spans generations. 619 00:28:39,996 --> 00:28:42,882 Anthony: I wish my father was way different, you know? 620 00:28:42,966 --> 00:28:44,700 I remember one day I was outside 621 00:28:44,751 --> 00:28:47,303 in front of the building, 622 00:28:47,370 --> 00:28:48,837 you know, I noticed him 623 00:28:48,889 --> 00:28:50,556 doing a little hand-to-hand. 624 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,175 And ever since then, 625 00:28:53,226 --> 00:28:55,043 I figured he was a drug dealer. 626 00:28:55,095 --> 00:28:57,012 Then after that, I kind of seen him 627 00:28:57,063 --> 00:28:58,681 a couple times doing it. 628 00:28:58,732 --> 00:29:00,266 Did you ever ask him about it? 629 00:29:00,350 --> 00:29:02,768 No. Never asked him. 630 00:29:02,852 --> 00:29:04,353 Why? 631 00:29:04,404 --> 00:29:06,906 'Cause I don't ask those questions. 632 00:29:06,990 --> 00:29:08,357 I knew, 633 00:29:08,408 --> 00:29:10,559 so I ain't really want to hear his answers. 634 00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:13,078 So that's why I ain't really asked. 635 00:29:23,757 --> 00:29:26,342 All right, now. 636 00:29:26,409 --> 00:29:31,680 When I heard of it, he's selling drugs, 637 00:29:31,748 --> 00:29:35,968 to be honest with you, to be totally honest with you, 638 00:29:36,052 --> 00:29:39,271 it didn't surprise me. 639 00:29:40,923 --> 00:29:43,392 From where we was at, where we came out of, 640 00:29:43,443 --> 00:29:45,311 where we lived. 641 00:29:47,364 --> 00:29:49,865 The drug dealers are looked at 642 00:29:49,932 --> 00:29:52,601 as really the leaders of the community. 643 00:29:52,652 --> 00:29:54,453 If your moms can't pay rent, 644 00:29:54,537 --> 00:29:55,621 they help out on the rent. 645 00:29:55,705 --> 00:29:57,206 If you needed a little bit of food sometimes, 646 00:29:57,273 --> 00:29:59,775 they will give money to your household for food. 647 00:29:59,826 --> 00:30:02,878 It's like back in the day, magic had the converse out. 648 00:30:02,945 --> 00:30:04,446 Everybody wanted the new converses, 649 00:30:04,497 --> 00:30:05,947 and he would get them for you. 650 00:30:05,999 --> 00:30:08,500 The drug dealer would come right up the block from us, 651 00:30:08,585 --> 00:30:10,002 5 or 6 of us. 652 00:30:10,086 --> 00:30:11,337 "You pick out a pair, you pick out a pair, 653 00:30:11,421 --> 00:30:12,788 you pick out a pair." 654 00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:15,724 We come back on the block, we all carrying sneaker boxes. 655 00:30:15,792 --> 00:30:17,125 He in front of us. 656 00:30:17,177 --> 00:30:19,345 And oh, everybody want to know what's up. 657 00:30:19,429 --> 00:30:20,679 "Where you get the magics? You got the magics. 658 00:30:20,764 --> 00:30:22,231 You got the magics." 659 00:30:22,298 --> 00:30:23,732 And then we tell them who we got them from. 660 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,652 The next step is every time he comes on the block, 661 00:30:26,736 --> 00:30:28,070 you're always under him. 662 00:30:28,137 --> 00:30:29,488 He wants his water from the store. 663 00:30:29,572 --> 00:30:32,024 He'll give you a $5.00 bill. "Go get me a water." 664 00:30:32,108 --> 00:30:33,742 You know, the change is yours. 665 00:30:33,810 --> 00:30:37,112 Half these waters he didn't drink. 666 00:30:37,163 --> 00:30:40,366 Ice cream truck came, always bought us ice cream. 667 00:30:40,450 --> 00:30:41,583 And he didn't even have to pay. 668 00:30:41,651 --> 00:30:45,004 He'd tell the ice cream man, "hey, yo, get 'em." 669 00:30:45,088 --> 00:30:47,539 And the ice cream man would give us all ice cream. 670 00:30:47,624 --> 00:30:50,709 Honestly, I loved him. 671 00:30:50,794 --> 00:30:54,996 I loved him because when they came around, it was Christmas. 672 00:30:55,048 --> 00:30:59,334 As you get older, they say you get your own money. 673 00:30:59,386 --> 00:31:01,136 Sell drugs, sell drugs. 674 00:31:01,187 --> 00:31:02,337 "I don't know how to sell no drugs." 675 00:31:02,389 --> 00:31:04,440 He said, "you don't have to know how to sell 'em." 676 00:31:04,507 --> 00:31:07,526 "Just stand there. I'll send them over to you." 677 00:31:07,610 --> 00:31:09,978 He gave me the drugs. I stood there. 678 00:31:10,030 --> 00:31:12,314 And he would point, and they would come to me. 679 00:31:12,365 --> 00:31:14,366 And then I had my own sneaker money, 680 00:31:14,451 --> 00:31:16,017 I had my own movie money. 681 00:31:16,069 --> 00:31:19,038 And then I had my own power. 682 00:31:19,122 --> 00:31:21,523 Our role models wasn't nobody famous. 683 00:31:21,574 --> 00:31:22,691 You know? 684 00:31:22,742 --> 00:31:25,026 I mean, where I come from in the neighborhood, 685 00:31:25,078 --> 00:31:27,629 there was hood famous, you know. 686 00:31:27,697 --> 00:31:29,865 My big brother, Dennis Johnson, 687 00:31:29,916 --> 00:31:32,200 he came from doing the same thing. 688 00:31:32,252 --> 00:31:35,304 But it was mostly 1 person, my man te. 689 00:31:35,371 --> 00:31:37,473 He was everything I wanted to be. 690 00:31:37,540 --> 00:31:40,759 He had the girls, the clothes, you know, 691 00:31:40,844 --> 00:31:42,644 the jewelry, the cars, the money. 692 00:31:42,712 --> 00:31:44,563 That's what I wanted, you know? 693 00:31:44,647 --> 00:31:45,814 But I wanted to be te. 694 00:31:45,882 --> 00:31:47,599 I wanted to be little te. 695 00:31:47,684 --> 00:31:49,318 Te schooled me to the game. 696 00:31:49,385 --> 00:31:51,520 You know, he'd show me how to get money, 697 00:31:51,571 --> 00:31:53,322 but I worked it. 698 00:31:53,389 --> 00:31:55,407 [Baby fussing] 699 00:31:57,944 --> 00:32:00,061 Woman: Hey, John, I somehow just missed your call. 700 00:32:00,113 --> 00:32:02,664 I just wanted to double check with you 701 00:32:02,732 --> 00:32:05,033 and give you a chance to talk to Alicia 702 00:32:05,085 --> 00:32:08,537 about where we're at and what Anthony's looking at. 703 00:32:08,588 --> 00:32:10,172 They're trying to go for 5. 704 00:32:10,239 --> 00:32:11,623 But if not, anything under 10. 705 00:32:11,708 --> 00:32:13,008 They're not trying to make him 706 00:32:13,075 --> 00:32:14,426 go beyond that. 707 00:32:14,511 --> 00:32:15,677 Yeah. 708 00:32:15,745 --> 00:32:18,347 Like the 5-40 was scaring me. Ha! 709 00:32:18,414 --> 00:32:20,265 I was always proud of him, 710 00:32:20,350 --> 00:32:22,885 but I just always figured that he was ok, 711 00:32:22,936 --> 00:32:26,805 that he was good, you know? 712 00:32:26,890 --> 00:32:28,774 Anthony: I know I screwed up, 713 00:32:28,858 --> 00:32:32,594 because you know you need that father figure in your life. 714 00:32:32,645 --> 00:32:34,229 Oh... 715 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,315 I know my daughter, she need me, 716 00:32:36,399 --> 00:32:38,901 and I don't want me and her to have the same relationship 717 00:32:38,952 --> 00:32:40,435 me and my father had, 718 00:32:40,487 --> 00:32:42,154 looking at me in pictures, 719 00:32:42,238 --> 00:32:45,624 and got to say that's my dad, you know, come to visiting. 720 00:32:45,708 --> 00:32:47,993 You know, I got to tell her daddy's at school 721 00:32:48,077 --> 00:32:50,445 when I speak to her on the phone or something, you know? 722 00:32:50,497 --> 00:32:53,882 'Cause I don't want to tell her that I'm in jail. 723 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,142 Narrator: Watching Anthony's child sleep 724 00:33:03,226 --> 00:33:05,811 hundreds of Miles from the father she's never met, 725 00:33:05,895 --> 00:33:08,597 I could see the painful cycle gripping his family, 726 00:33:08,648 --> 00:33:11,183 but I also had to honestly wonder what compelled him 727 00:33:11,267 --> 00:33:12,734 to make the choices he did. 728 00:33:12,802 --> 00:33:14,442 Ogletree: You know, it's very interesting, 729 00:33:14,487 --> 00:33:17,472 people ask the question, what about personal responsibility? 730 00:33:17,524 --> 00:33:20,475 The only thing you don't do is blame criminals 731 00:33:20,527 --> 00:33:22,978 for the crime that they committed. 732 00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:25,113 You blame everybody else and everything else... 733 00:33:25,165 --> 00:33:27,416 Ogletree: You know, I wish the answer were that simple, 734 00:33:27,483 --> 00:33:30,151 but let's just take a little step back. 735 00:33:30,203 --> 00:33:32,704 There are structural impediments. 736 00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:36,324 What you see over and over again in urban America 737 00:33:36,376 --> 00:33:38,660 are kids who live in a crowded home, 738 00:33:38,711 --> 00:33:40,128 who are hungry when they go to school, 739 00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:43,599 who lack attention because they've heard noise and gunshots 740 00:33:43,666 --> 00:33:46,001 and other things where they live. 741 00:33:46,052 --> 00:33:48,687 Man: I don't think people fully understand. 742 00:33:48,771 --> 00:33:50,189 In the inner city, 743 00:33:50,273 --> 00:33:52,841 these kids are making rational choices. 744 00:33:52,892 --> 00:33:54,810 I profiled a girl who was like this, 745 00:33:54,861 --> 00:33:56,311 a 10-year-old girl. 746 00:33:56,362 --> 00:33:58,513 The minute she steps out her front doorway, 747 00:33:58,565 --> 00:34:00,315 there are drug dealers out there, 748 00:34:00,366 --> 00:34:02,034 no economic opportunity. 749 00:34:02,118 --> 00:34:04,236 The school is warehousing her. 750 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,288 She doesn't see any prospects. 751 00:34:06,355 --> 00:34:09,491 How is she supposed to get out? 752 00:34:09,542 --> 00:34:10,742 At the end of the day 753 00:34:10,827 --> 00:34:12,377 when there's not a lot of resources out here 754 00:34:12,462 --> 00:34:14,195 and your teachers aren't stressing you to come to class 755 00:34:14,247 --> 00:34:18,250 or not even caring, you know, you're not gonna go to school. 756 00:34:18,334 --> 00:34:19,501 You're gonna sell drugs. 757 00:34:19,552 --> 00:34:21,386 You're gonna do what you have to do. 758 00:34:21,471 --> 00:34:23,889 Simon: To go down to a drug corner in the inner city 759 00:34:23,973 --> 00:34:26,041 is the rational act of somebody going to work 760 00:34:26,092 --> 00:34:29,377 for the only company that exists in a company town, 761 00:34:29,429 --> 00:34:31,313 when that is the only economy that's functioning 762 00:34:31,380 --> 00:34:33,765 in certain places in this country. 763 00:34:33,850 --> 00:34:35,601 What do we expect? 764 00:34:35,685 --> 00:34:38,219 Narrator: Beyond the structural barriers that promote drug crime 765 00:34:38,271 --> 00:34:41,073 on the street, those arrested soon find themselves 766 00:34:41,157 --> 00:34:43,075 in the self-perpetuating cycle 767 00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,277 from which few ever really escape. 768 00:34:45,361 --> 00:34:47,029 Ogletree: People don't realize, for example, 769 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,615 that when you arrest a young black man and he goes to jail, 770 00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:51,900 the first thing when he gets out of the prison, 771 00:34:51,951 --> 00:34:55,837 he can't get a job in most places because of his record. 772 00:34:55,905 --> 00:34:57,456 Woman: If you have a family charge, 773 00:34:57,540 --> 00:34:58,624 you need to be working, 774 00:34:58,708 --> 00:35:00,676 you need to be trying to move yourself forward. 775 00:35:00,743 --> 00:35:02,594 Ogletree: If he wants to go back to school to go to college, 776 00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:05,847 he's ineligible by law for certain grants. 777 00:35:05,915 --> 00:35:07,799 Woman: Medical issues. If you have anything... 778 00:35:07,884 --> 00:35:09,884 Ogletree: He can't get certain healthcare benefits. 779 00:35:09,886 --> 00:35:12,020 He can't live in certain neighborhoods. 780 00:35:12,088 --> 00:35:14,890 His family that was the centerpiece of his life, 781 00:35:14,941 --> 00:35:18,143 if they're living in public housing, they can't take him in. 782 00:35:18,227 --> 00:35:19,645 Bill Clinton: The only people who deserve to live 783 00:35:19,729 --> 00:35:22,648 in public housing are those who live responsibly there. 784 00:35:22,732 --> 00:35:24,032 He can't vote. 785 00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:25,941 Alexander: Release from prison offers this idea 786 00:35:25,985 --> 00:35:28,904 that you're gonna return to some kind of freedom, 787 00:35:28,955 --> 00:35:30,989 but in reality, for the rest of your life, 788 00:35:31,074 --> 00:35:33,492 you've got to check that box on employment applications 789 00:35:33,576 --> 00:35:35,377 asking that dreaded question, 790 00:35:35,444 --> 00:35:37,212 "have you ever been convicted of a felony?" 791 00:35:37,279 --> 00:35:40,299 It becomes a vicious circle in which people cycle out of 792 00:35:40,383 --> 00:35:45,120 their ghetto communities into prison and back. 793 00:35:48,007 --> 00:35:50,976 As a physician, I'm concerned with the casualties 794 00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:52,177 of the war on drugs, 795 00:35:52,261 --> 00:35:55,931 which is the front line users and the petty dealers. 796 00:35:55,982 --> 00:35:59,300 But rather than seeing a drug problem in isolation, 797 00:35:59,352 --> 00:36:01,770 you have to see it in the social context. 798 00:36:01,821 --> 00:36:03,405 These are not problems, none of them, 799 00:36:03,472 --> 00:36:06,141 that are just intrinsic to individuals. 800 00:36:06,192 --> 00:36:07,242 They all represent 801 00:36:07,309 --> 00:36:09,361 multi-generational family history, 802 00:36:09,445 --> 00:36:12,948 culture, social conditions, and human failure. 803 00:36:12,999 --> 00:36:17,369 You know, like, you say all the things that you knew 804 00:36:17,453 --> 00:36:19,654 that when you was coming up that was wrong. 805 00:36:19,706 --> 00:36:23,324 Now I'm starting to do them, but I can't control it 806 00:36:23,376 --> 00:36:25,043 because I've got these problems. 807 00:36:25,128 --> 00:36:28,046 I'm using drugs. I'm halfway selling drugs. 808 00:36:28,131 --> 00:36:29,598 I'm using drugs. 809 00:36:29,665 --> 00:36:33,185 And now I've got these 2 little boys, pretty boys... 810 00:36:38,507 --> 00:36:41,226 And I don't know how to... 811 00:36:44,697 --> 00:36:47,065 Really relate to that. 812 00:36:49,952 --> 00:36:52,704 I know I'm supposed to. I know I ain't have one. 813 00:36:52,789 --> 00:36:55,991 And I know I'm supposed to. 814 00:36:56,042 --> 00:36:58,043 Ah... 815 00:36:58,127 --> 00:37:03,131 I didn't know how to stop doing what I was doing. 816 00:37:03,199 --> 00:37:05,467 Excuse me. 817 00:37:05,534 --> 00:37:08,036 To be like that. 818 00:37:10,139 --> 00:37:11,923 Narrator: Seeing the pain Anthony's father carries 819 00:37:12,008 --> 00:37:15,260 over both his own choices and the impact of outside pressures, 820 00:37:15,344 --> 00:37:17,345 I wondered how a matter of public health 821 00:37:17,397 --> 00:37:19,765 didn't just inspire early drug laws, 822 00:37:19,849 --> 00:37:22,100 but became the full-blown target of a war. 823 00:37:22,185 --> 00:37:25,220 Nixon: America's public enemy number 1 824 00:37:25,271 --> 00:37:29,074 in the United States is drug abuse. 825 00:37:29,158 --> 00:37:31,610 In order to fight and defeat this enemy, 826 00:37:31,694 --> 00:37:36,198 it is necessary to wage a new all-out offensive. 827 00:37:36,249 --> 00:37:39,167 Man: Target's ready. Male negro, 5' 7". 828 00:37:39,235 --> 00:37:40,335 [Gunshot] 829 00:37:40,402 --> 00:37:42,587 Bowden: The U.S. war on drugs 830 00:37:42,672 --> 00:37:46,091 was initiated officially under president Richard Nixon 831 00:37:46,175 --> 00:37:47,843 to get his polls up. 832 00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:49,044 Narrator: For most people I talked to, 833 00:37:49,095 --> 00:37:50,762 the drug war as we know it today 834 00:37:50,847 --> 00:37:53,131 was born in the late '60s and early '70s 835 00:37:53,216 --> 00:37:54,433 under Richard Nixon. 836 00:37:54,517 --> 00:37:57,385 Nixon: I have no sympathy for the pushers and the peddlers 837 00:37:57,437 --> 00:37:59,187 and the others in this country. 838 00:37:59,255 --> 00:38:00,588 [Cheering] 839 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,192 We are going to restore freedom from fear in America again! 840 00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:06,594 Man: When Nixon ran for president in 1968, 841 00:38:06,646 --> 00:38:10,398 he talked about the problem of crime in the street. 842 00:38:10,450 --> 00:38:12,067 Nixon: The wave of crime is not going to be 843 00:38:12,118 --> 00:38:15,320 the wave of the future in the United States of America. 844 00:38:15,404 --> 00:38:17,322 Mauer: And this was really the first time 845 00:38:17,406 --> 00:38:19,624 in a major way that the issue of drug crime 846 00:38:19,709 --> 00:38:21,793 became a national political issue. 847 00:38:21,878 --> 00:38:23,328 Give 'em a... 848 00:38:23,412 --> 00:38:25,380 Alexander: Richard Nixon is credited as the first 849 00:38:25,447 --> 00:38:28,083 to coin the term "a war on drugs," 850 00:38:28,134 --> 00:38:29,918 but what most people don't realize 851 00:38:29,969 --> 00:38:32,487 is that under Richard Nixon, 852 00:38:32,555 --> 00:38:36,124 2/3 of the drug war budget was devoted to treatment 853 00:38:36,175 --> 00:38:39,060 rather than law enforcement. 854 00:38:39,128 --> 00:38:41,563 Because a program of law enforcement alone 855 00:38:41,630 --> 00:38:43,064 is not enough. 856 00:38:43,132 --> 00:38:44,432 Simon: Well, Nixon actually had some forward thinking 857 00:38:44,484 --> 00:38:45,901 in the war on drugs. 858 00:38:45,968 --> 00:38:47,903 He understood the need to address addiction. 859 00:38:47,970 --> 00:38:51,156 Nixon: This means that on the treatment of addicts, 860 00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:52,657 we must go parallel... 861 00:38:52,742 --> 00:38:55,142 Simon: And he actually did some things that were progressive, 862 00:38:55,161 --> 00:38:57,279 certainly by standards of what came after him. 863 00:38:57,330 --> 00:38:58,479 Nixon: You don't turn to the drugs 864 00:38:58,531 --> 00:39:02,250 unless you can't find satisfaction another way 865 00:39:02,318 --> 00:39:03,484 in your own life. 866 00:39:03,536 --> 00:39:05,337 Narrator: The more I learned about Nixon, 867 00:39:05,421 --> 00:39:06,955 the more confusing he became. 868 00:39:07,006 --> 00:39:09,324 Privately, he knew that he'd be far more successful 869 00:39:09,375 --> 00:39:11,593 with drug treatment than with law enforcement, 870 00:39:11,660 --> 00:39:14,546 but publicly at the '72 election approached, 871 00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:16,998 Nixon returned to the simple crime-fighting rhetoric 872 00:39:17,049 --> 00:39:18,517 that had worked for him before. 873 00:39:18,601 --> 00:39:20,969 Nixon: We must wage what I have called total war 874 00:39:21,020 --> 00:39:24,372 against public enemy number 1 in the United States, 875 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,174 the problem with dangerous drugs. 876 00:39:26,242 --> 00:39:27,692 Newscaster: Nixon wins re-election 877 00:39:27,777 --> 00:39:28,977 in a landslide victory... 878 00:39:29,028 --> 00:39:31,346 Narrator: As Nixon's tough talk proved a recipe 879 00:39:31,397 --> 00:39:33,031 for electoral success, 880 00:39:33,115 --> 00:39:35,901 states across the country began passing tough new laws. 881 00:39:35,985 --> 00:39:38,320 Half the crime is caused by narcotic addicts. 882 00:39:38,371 --> 00:39:40,322 With New York's rockefeller drug laws 883 00:39:40,373 --> 00:39:42,073 setting an example for harsh penalties, 884 00:39:42,158 --> 00:39:45,126 he would soon be followed by other states. 885 00:39:47,463 --> 00:39:49,414 Man: You guys better get ready in a few minutes. 886 00:39:49,498 --> 00:39:52,500 At 7:58 you are just almost out of time. 887 00:39:52,552 --> 00:39:55,170 Yes, sir. 888 00:39:55,221 --> 00:39:56,338 You guys be careful. 889 00:39:56,389 --> 00:39:57,505 Ok. Bye, dad. Love you. 890 00:39:57,557 --> 00:39:59,140 Love you, too. 891 00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:08,016 Carpenter: I am very much a law and order kind of guy. 892 00:40:08,067 --> 00:40:10,318 I would rather have 10 police cars 893 00:40:10,386 --> 00:40:13,521 than 1 soup kitchen if you give me the choice, 894 00:40:13,573 --> 00:40:16,992 but sometimes I think that we need to be smarter 895 00:40:17,059 --> 00:40:19,694 about what those police officers are actually out there doing. 896 00:40:19,745 --> 00:40:22,280 Narrator: Maybe because he's seen the epitome 897 00:40:22,365 --> 00:40:23,949 of the hardened prison official, 898 00:40:24,033 --> 00:40:26,734 Mike carpenter's perspective on the severity of drug laws 899 00:40:26,786 --> 00:40:28,336 caught me off guard. 900 00:40:28,404 --> 00:40:29,725 Carpenter: I think a long time ago 901 00:40:29,755 --> 00:40:34,042 we made drugs into this huge thing 902 00:40:34,093 --> 00:40:37,262 and we've made it so illegal 903 00:40:37,346 --> 00:40:43,251 and we've made it such a national issue 904 00:40:43,302 --> 00:40:45,753 with that tough on crime stance, 905 00:40:45,805 --> 00:40:46,965 I mean, you can't get elected 906 00:40:47,023 --> 00:40:49,107 if you don't profess to be tough on crime. 907 00:40:49,191 --> 00:40:51,226 First we have to join together 908 00:40:51,277 --> 00:40:52,694 and ensure the drug dealers are punished 909 00:40:52,761 --> 00:40:54,646 swiftly, surely, and severely. 910 00:40:54,730 --> 00:40:56,982 Carpenter: You can't stay elected if you don't do things 911 00:40:57,066 --> 00:40:58,366 to be tough on crime. 912 00:40:58,434 --> 00:40:59,934 Bush: Is to toughen sentences, 913 00:40:59,986 --> 00:41:01,820 beef up law enforcement, 914 00:41:01,904 --> 00:41:05,907 and build new prison space for 24,000 inmates. 915 00:41:05,958 --> 00:41:07,608 Carpenter: You know, nobody can afford to be the first guy 916 00:41:07,660 --> 00:41:09,610 to say wait a minute, we can't afford what we're doing. 917 00:41:09,662 --> 00:41:11,112 Let's do something different 918 00:41:11,163 --> 00:41:12,664 because if you even made a noise 919 00:41:12,748 --> 00:41:14,949 like you were gonna be soft on crime in any way, 920 00:41:15,001 --> 00:41:16,551 you would be out of a job. 921 00:41:16,618 --> 00:41:19,004 You will be put away and put away for good, 922 00:41:19,088 --> 00:41:21,923 3 strikes and you are out. 923 00:41:21,974 --> 00:41:23,425 [Applause] 924 00:41:23,476 --> 00:41:24,843 Carpenter: You get in front of the camera, 925 00:41:24,927 --> 00:41:27,512 and you talk loudly about we need to lock up criminals, 926 00:41:27,596 --> 00:41:28,930 we need to make our streets safe, 927 00:41:28,981 --> 00:41:31,966 and so we become victims of the sound bite. 928 00:41:32,018 --> 00:41:34,302 Reagan: The American people want their government to get tough 929 00:41:34,353 --> 00:41:35,970 and to go on the offensive, 930 00:41:36,022 --> 00:41:38,523 and that's exactly what we intend. 931 00:41:38,607 --> 00:41:39,991 Carpenter: I think sometimes we have people doing 932 00:41:40,076 --> 00:41:43,778 a whole lot of time for not very much crime. 933 00:41:43,846 --> 00:41:46,648 It's almost like they're paying for our fear 934 00:41:46,716 --> 00:41:49,217 instead of paying for their crime. 935 00:41:49,285 --> 00:41:50,835 Narrator: For many working in corrections, 936 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,820 I heard the same frustration, 937 00:41:52,872 --> 00:41:55,113 that political rhetoric not only floods their facilities, 938 00:41:55,157 --> 00:41:58,426 but robs them of the resources they need to do their jobs. 939 00:41:58,494 --> 00:41:59,794 Franklin: People want to lock people up 940 00:41:59,845 --> 00:42:01,546 and keep them locked away. 941 00:42:01,630 --> 00:42:02,997 And then when their sentence is over, 942 00:42:03,049 --> 00:42:06,101 they expect this person to be reformed or a different person, 943 00:42:06,168 --> 00:42:08,520 then if you haven't given them any skills or trained them, 944 00:42:08,604 --> 00:42:10,838 how can they be? 945 00:42:12,308 --> 00:42:14,309 Man: I'm the cabinet maker director here 946 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,843 at Lexington vo-tech. 947 00:42:15,895 --> 00:42:17,678 When these guys get out of prison, we find them a job 948 00:42:17,730 --> 00:42:18,897 and help them get a job. 949 00:42:18,981 --> 00:42:20,365 Keeps 'em working, 950 00:42:20,449 --> 00:42:21,816 make some taxpayers in the state of Oklahoma. 951 00:42:21,867 --> 00:42:23,151 Franklin: He's already got 1 strike against him 952 00:42:23,202 --> 00:42:24,619 that he's a convicted felon, 953 00:42:24,686 --> 00:42:26,705 but at least he can say, hey, I'm a licensed electrician 954 00:42:26,789 --> 00:42:28,656 or a licensed carpenter. 955 00:42:28,708 --> 00:42:29,824 Carpenter: For a lot of these guys, 956 00:42:29,875 --> 00:42:33,161 they've never had self-respect, I guess. 957 00:42:33,212 --> 00:42:35,080 I mean, it's been false self-respect 958 00:42:35,164 --> 00:42:37,882 because they were tough or because they stole a lot 959 00:42:37,967 --> 00:42:40,168 or because they sold a lot of drugs, 960 00:42:40,219 --> 00:42:41,869 and this gives them the chance to anchor themselves 961 00:42:41,921 --> 00:42:44,872 to something good, these rehabilitation programs. 962 00:42:44,924 --> 00:42:46,007 Man: Prison is not a nice place, 963 00:42:46,058 --> 00:42:47,475 but I'm glad I came here. 964 00:42:47,543 --> 00:42:51,096 It's made me a better person. 965 00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:54,682 This program's probably the best thing that's happened to me 966 00:42:54,734 --> 00:42:56,050 in my life. 967 00:42:56,102 --> 00:42:57,819 All: We are seeking change, 968 00:42:57,886 --> 00:43:00,021 accepting how we cannot change our past 969 00:43:00,072 --> 00:43:02,524 but we can change our future. 970 00:43:02,575 --> 00:43:05,693 Carpenter: The problem is, when you get into lean budget times, 971 00:43:05,745 --> 00:43:07,445 the public, the citizens of Oklahoma, 972 00:43:07,530 --> 00:43:09,664 say, if we have to spend money on something, 973 00:43:09,731 --> 00:43:12,500 let's spend money on fences, handcuffs, cell doors, 974 00:43:12,568 --> 00:43:14,119 that kind of stuff. 975 00:43:14,203 --> 00:43:15,670 The rehabilitation programs 976 00:43:15,737 --> 00:43:18,289 are often the first thing that get cut. 977 00:43:19,542 --> 00:43:21,593 Franklin: If we don't have the resources available, 978 00:43:21,677 --> 00:43:24,095 that equates to not being able to give an offender 979 00:43:24,180 --> 00:43:25,680 a trade or a skill 980 00:43:25,747 --> 00:43:28,299 and they end up going right back to the same deviant behavior 981 00:43:28,384 --> 00:43:30,301 on the outside. 982 00:43:36,926 --> 00:43:39,027 [Woman humming] 983 00:43:42,865 --> 00:43:50,865 Woman: � if I didn't care more than words can say � 984 00:43:53,159 --> 00:43:56,294 � if I didn't care... 985 00:43:56,378 --> 00:43:57,912 Man: I'm Larry cearley. 986 00:43:57,963 --> 00:44:00,131 I'm the marshal here in magdalena. 987 00:44:00,216 --> 00:44:04,302 Magdalena is a small spot in the world. 988 00:44:04,386 --> 00:44:08,756 We're about 250 Miles from the Mexican border. 989 00:44:08,808 --> 00:44:10,091 We have U.S. highway 60. 990 00:44:10,142 --> 00:44:12,010 That's a main corridor for drugs. 991 00:44:12,094 --> 00:44:14,145 I need your driver's license, please, and your insurance. 992 00:44:14,230 --> 00:44:16,764 Cearley: For the last 29 years in working in law enforcement, 993 00:44:16,816 --> 00:44:19,517 the major thing that's changed is the drug trafficking. 994 00:44:19,602 --> 00:44:20,852 What are you looking for, those drug guys? 995 00:44:20,936 --> 00:44:23,071 Anything, everything. 996 00:44:23,138 --> 00:44:25,106 [Baa] 997 00:44:25,157 --> 00:44:27,141 Narrator: At first glance, 998 00:44:27,193 --> 00:44:30,278 marshal cearley seemed form a bygone era of law enforcement. 999 00:44:30,329 --> 00:44:31,663 Cearley: I guess I'm gonna portray myself 1000 00:44:31,747 --> 00:44:32,813 as that kind of person, 1001 00:44:32,865 --> 00:44:36,367 a man with a white hat riding old silver. 1002 00:44:36,452 --> 00:44:38,670 Narrator: But as enforcing drug laws 1003 00:44:38,754 --> 00:44:41,840 has become the primary focus for police across the country, 1004 00:44:41,924 --> 00:44:44,092 the nature of his work as a small town marshal 1005 00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:45,877 has changed as well. 1006 00:44:45,961 --> 00:44:47,011 Cearley: You got that? 1007 00:44:47,096 --> 00:44:49,430 2 hispanic males in a car, dark, tinted windows, 1008 00:44:49,498 --> 00:44:50,498 we want it on that side of the road. 1009 00:44:50,549 --> 00:44:51,832 Yeah. Ok. 1010 00:44:51,884 --> 00:44:52,767 What are you gonna tell her? 1011 00:44:52,834 --> 00:44:53,852 She knows you're going to jail. 1012 00:44:53,936 --> 00:44:55,303 Go ahead and put him in the car. 1013 00:44:55,354 --> 00:44:57,138 Ok if I check in there a little bit more? 1014 00:44:57,189 --> 00:44:58,273 Got some marijuana here. 1015 00:44:58,340 --> 00:45:00,174 Ed, you arrest both these people and tow his car. 1016 00:45:00,226 --> 00:45:02,644 That's what we're gonna do. 1017 00:45:02,695 --> 00:45:04,312 We're fishing. 1018 00:45:04,363 --> 00:45:07,398 We're fishing, but we're there again. 1019 00:45:07,483 --> 00:45:09,951 I mean, you look at trucks like this truck here, 1020 00:45:10,018 --> 00:45:12,120 that's an Arizona truck, 1021 00:45:12,187 --> 00:45:13,655 somebody that's not gonna stop and get a motel room, 1022 00:45:13,706 --> 00:45:15,907 somebody that's been driving for 24 hours. 1023 00:45:15,991 --> 00:45:18,910 Because they don't want to get caught. 1024 00:45:18,994 --> 00:45:20,695 This is telling me that this person right here 1025 00:45:20,746 --> 00:45:22,080 could be a drug trafficker. 1026 00:45:22,164 --> 00:45:23,831 What's he doing that's giving you 1027 00:45:23,883 --> 00:45:25,667 that impression? 1028 00:45:25,718 --> 00:45:29,504 The truck and fast food. 1029 00:45:31,039 --> 00:45:33,424 It's supposed to be illegal to profile, 1030 00:45:33,509 --> 00:45:35,376 but you kind of, after working so long, 1031 00:45:35,427 --> 00:45:39,063 you kind of know who's doing something. 1032 00:45:39,148 --> 00:45:40,765 So is it sort of phony 1033 00:45:40,849 --> 00:45:42,383 when people say they don't profile? 1034 00:45:42,434 --> 00:45:45,153 Oh, it's all phony. It's all phony. 1035 00:45:45,220 --> 00:45:46,271 If you don't profile vehicles, 1036 00:45:46,355 --> 00:45:47,572 you're not in law enforcement. 1037 00:45:47,656 --> 00:45:51,276 That's the way it is, man, you know, you know? 1038 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,610 Come on. 1039 00:45:52,695 --> 00:45:54,162 Ok, now what about profiling people? 1040 00:45:54,229 --> 00:45:55,530 Profiling people, same thing. 1041 00:45:55,581 --> 00:45:56,781 That's what we have. 1042 00:45:56,865 --> 00:46:00,168 Simon: We like to believe that the drug war 1043 00:46:00,235 --> 00:46:01,902 has given law enforcement all of these tools, 1044 00:46:01,954 --> 00:46:04,672 all of this authority in which to pursue 1045 00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:06,124 criminality and gangsterism, 1046 00:46:06,208 --> 00:46:08,176 but actually what it did was 1047 00:46:08,243 --> 00:46:11,078 it basically destroyed the police deterrent 1048 00:46:11,130 --> 00:46:14,882 in a very subtle and unintended way. 1049 00:46:18,137 --> 00:46:20,138 Going up to 15th street and Dixie. 1050 00:46:20,222 --> 00:46:21,773 He's gonna have some crack for him 1051 00:46:21,857 --> 00:46:23,725 and some oxycodone pills. 1052 00:46:23,776 --> 00:46:26,427 Man: Joe and I are both sergeants in Miami narcotics, 1053 00:46:26,478 --> 00:46:29,263 and we don't do street level drug deals. 1054 00:46:29,315 --> 00:46:31,032 We do larger quantity cases. 1055 00:46:31,099 --> 00:46:33,985 We're looking for the dealers and the suppliers. 1056 00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:36,571 Ok, deal is good, guys. Go in. 1057 00:46:36,622 --> 00:46:37,772 Narrator: A world away from magdalena 1058 00:46:37,823 --> 00:46:39,123 in the streets of Miami, 1059 00:46:39,208 --> 00:46:41,075 I began to see the real impact of the drug war 1060 00:46:41,126 --> 00:46:42,160 on law enforcement. 1061 00:46:42,244 --> 00:46:43,995 Start thinking about why you're in handcuffs 1062 00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:46,280 and maybe you can help yourself out, ok? 1063 00:46:46,332 --> 00:46:47,582 So what happened is the second guy, 1064 00:46:47,633 --> 00:46:49,417 he's now running on foot. 1065 00:46:49,468 --> 00:46:51,868 Yeah, that's where... we believe he might have gone in there. 1066 00:46:52,504 --> 00:46:53,838 I guess we're gonna have to write this up 1067 00:46:53,922 --> 00:46:55,256 as a separate case. 1068 00:46:55,324 --> 00:46:57,759 Totally unrelated to the original drug deal we did, 1069 00:46:57,810 --> 00:46:59,126 but we stumbled upon a house 1070 00:46:59,178 --> 00:47:00,961 where a couple of big stacks of money, 1071 00:47:01,013 --> 00:47:02,430 a good amount of marijuana, 1072 00:47:02,481 --> 00:47:04,432 that's sometimes how things happen. 1073 00:47:04,483 --> 00:47:06,818 You know, they're not even planned. 1074 00:47:06,902 --> 00:47:09,354 Simon: Nobody respects good police work more than me. 1075 00:47:09,438 --> 00:47:11,155 I spent more than a decade covering it, 1076 00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:13,157 and there are a lot of detectives who I admire 1077 00:47:13,242 --> 00:47:15,159 for their professionalism, for their craft. 1078 00:47:15,244 --> 00:47:16,644 Hey, what's up, can I help you? 1079 00:47:16,695 --> 00:47:17,978 No, officer. 1080 00:47:18,030 --> 00:47:19,480 Simon: The drug war created an environment 1081 00:47:19,531 --> 00:47:21,666 in which none of that was rewarded. 1082 00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:23,251 Come on over here for a second. 1083 00:47:23,318 --> 00:47:24,252 Let's get his I.D. 1084 00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:25,620 He's just cutting through the yard. 1085 00:47:25,671 --> 00:47:27,538 A drug arrest does not require anything 1086 00:47:27,623 --> 00:47:28,923 other than getting out of your radio car 1087 00:47:28,990 --> 00:47:32,660 and jacking people up against the side of a liquor store. 1088 00:47:32,711 --> 00:47:35,380 Probable cause? Are you kidding? 1089 00:47:35,464 --> 00:47:36,764 I don't want to say a majority of the people, 1090 00:47:36,832 --> 00:47:39,350 but there's a good number of people probably in this area 1091 00:47:39,435 --> 00:47:41,602 that are also involved in drug dealing. 1092 00:47:41,670 --> 00:47:44,939 The problem is there's a real tendency 1093 00:47:45,006 --> 00:47:47,558 on the part of law enforcement to think geographically. 1094 00:47:47,643 --> 00:47:51,112 To go throw resources at an area. 1095 00:47:51,179 --> 00:47:53,781 It's fish in a barrel for law enforcement. 1096 00:47:53,849 --> 00:47:55,450 Anytime you need to make an arrest, 1097 00:47:55,517 --> 00:47:56,784 you troll through there. 1098 00:47:56,852 --> 00:47:59,904 Everybody committing crimes in that area gets arrested, 1099 00:47:59,988 --> 00:48:02,290 people who are in the area who aren't committing crimes 1100 00:48:02,357 --> 00:48:03,908 get stopped. 1101 00:48:03,992 --> 00:48:06,360 It makes everybody angry. 1102 00:48:07,963 --> 00:48:10,030 Narrator: Watching arrest after arrest, 1103 00:48:10,082 --> 00:48:11,799 I began to see for the first time 1104 00:48:11,867 --> 00:48:13,418 the destructive impact of drug laws 1105 00:48:13,502 --> 00:48:15,386 no only on those they target, 1106 00:48:15,471 --> 00:48:17,872 but on those who enforce them as well. 1107 00:48:19,058 --> 00:48:20,308 Simon: The problem is that that cop 1108 00:48:20,375 --> 00:48:21,655 that made that cheap drug arrest, 1109 00:48:21,677 --> 00:48:23,428 he's gonna get paid. 1110 00:48:23,512 --> 00:48:25,680 He's gonna get the hours of overtime 1111 00:48:25,731 --> 00:48:27,982 for taking the drugs down e.C.U. 1112 00:48:28,050 --> 00:48:30,268 He's gonna get paid for processing the prisoner 1113 00:48:30,352 --> 00:48:31,769 down in central booking. 1114 00:48:31,854 --> 00:48:33,604 He's gonna get paid for sitting back at his desk 1115 00:48:33,689 --> 00:48:36,023 and writing the paperwork for a couple hours, 1116 00:48:36,075 --> 00:48:39,226 and he's gonna do that 40, 50, 60 times a month, 1117 00:48:39,278 --> 00:48:41,529 so that his base pay might end up being 1118 00:48:41,580 --> 00:48:44,165 only half of what he's paid as a police officer. 1119 00:48:44,232 --> 00:48:46,400 The most important thing, right here. 1120 00:48:49,004 --> 00:48:51,005 We're paying a guy for stats. 1121 00:48:51,072 --> 00:48:52,290 You can leave them here 1122 00:48:52,374 --> 00:48:54,374 and then we can go back out and do this other deal. 1123 00:48:54,409 --> 00:48:57,211 Simon: Compare that guy to the 1 guy doing police work 1124 00:48:57,262 --> 00:49:00,965 solving a murder, a rape, a robbery, a burglary, 1125 00:49:01,049 --> 00:49:03,134 if he gets lucky, he makes 1 arrest for the month. 1126 00:49:03,218 --> 00:49:05,553 He gets 1 slip signed. 1127 00:49:05,604 --> 00:49:07,855 And at the end of the month when they look and they see 1128 00:49:07,923 --> 00:49:10,942 officer a, he made 60 arrests. 1129 00:49:11,026 --> 00:49:13,611 Officer b made 1 arrest. 1130 00:49:13,695 --> 00:49:15,530 Who do you think they make the sergeant? 1131 00:49:15,597 --> 00:49:18,116 Ok, let's move in, guys, move in. 1132 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,568 In a city like, say, Baltimore, where I'm from, 1133 00:49:20,619 --> 00:49:23,287 our percentage of arrest for murder, for rape and robbery 1134 00:49:23,372 --> 00:49:25,606 are half of what they once were. 1135 00:49:25,657 --> 00:49:28,826 Our drug arrest stats are twice of what they once were. 1136 00:49:28,911 --> 00:49:29,827 So what does that do? 1137 00:49:29,912 --> 00:49:31,212 It makes the city unlivable. 1138 00:49:31,279 --> 00:49:34,715 It makes a police department where nobody can solve a crime. 1139 00:49:34,783 --> 00:49:36,634 Narrator: Beyond the incentives that exist 1140 00:49:36,718 --> 00:49:38,285 for individual officers, 1141 00:49:38,337 --> 00:49:40,004 it turns out that whole departments 1142 00:49:40,088 --> 00:49:42,723 have a monetary interest in increased drug arrests. 1143 00:49:42,791 --> 00:49:45,143 Alexander: Most people don't realize 1144 00:49:45,227 --> 00:49:48,029 that the financial incentives built into the system 1145 00:49:48,096 --> 00:49:51,132 virtually guarantee that the overwhelming majority 1146 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,867 of drug arrests in the United States 1147 00:49:52,935 --> 00:49:56,971 will be for nonviolent, low-level drug offenses. 1148 00:49:57,022 --> 00:49:59,640 Cuneen: A couple months ago we did a 2-day operation. 1149 00:49:59,691 --> 00:50:01,642 We arrested over 200 people, 1150 00:50:01,693 --> 00:50:03,911 the majority of them for selling drugs. 1151 00:50:03,979 --> 00:50:06,080 A lot of the money comes out of seizures 1152 00:50:06,147 --> 00:50:07,915 from the drug profits 1153 00:50:07,983 --> 00:50:11,619 that the bigger players are making off of this. 1154 00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:14,789 So I guess that money being put to good use. 1155 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,991 Man: So we get all their money? 1156 00:50:17,042 --> 00:50:19,377 That money is ours now. That's my money now. 1157 00:50:19,461 --> 00:50:21,161 If I leave this room 1158 00:50:21,213 --> 00:50:23,264 and I go out there and get in my old truck, 1159 00:50:23,331 --> 00:50:26,767 and I drive down the highway with $5,000 cash 1160 00:50:26,835 --> 00:50:28,719 in pocket that I earned, 1161 00:50:28,804 --> 00:50:31,522 and if I'm pulled over by a state trooper who says, 1162 00:50:31,607 --> 00:50:34,609 oh, you have a defective taillight or something, 1163 00:50:34,676 --> 00:50:38,729 they can take that 5 grand, never charge me with a crime, 1164 00:50:38,814 --> 00:50:40,231 take my old truck to boot, 1165 00:50:40,315 --> 00:50:41,816 keep 'em forever. 1166 00:50:41,867 --> 00:50:44,351 It's called recoup. Civil asset seizure. 1167 00:50:44,403 --> 00:50:47,655 It goes on every day in counties all over this country. 1168 00:50:47,706 --> 00:50:49,040 Hey, can we get... 1169 00:50:49,124 --> 00:50:53,127 somebody get a tow slip for this fine piece of machinery? 1170 00:50:53,194 --> 00:50:56,080 Cearley: Yeah. See, like, there's $118,000. 1171 00:50:56,164 --> 00:50:58,299 I pulled over right here, and we arrested the guy. 1172 00:50:58,366 --> 00:51:01,636 There's the 25,000 I got out of that seizure. 1173 00:51:01,703 --> 00:51:04,005 That's what we bought this car for. 1174 00:51:04,056 --> 00:51:05,890 Ok, so the police department 1175 00:51:05,974 --> 00:51:08,009 operates on the money it seizes? 1176 00:51:08,060 --> 00:51:10,595 Uh... Sometimes. 1177 00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:12,930 This is legal within the state of new Mexico. 1178 00:51:13,015 --> 00:51:14,055 Man: It's allegedly legal. 1179 00:51:14,066 --> 00:51:15,066 No. It is legal. 1180 00:51:15,150 --> 00:51:16,350 If you're no getting the point, I understand. 1181 00:51:16,401 --> 00:51:18,769 No, I am getting the point! Probable cause. 1182 00:51:18,854 --> 00:51:20,021 Simon: What happens is 1183 00:51:20,072 --> 00:51:21,489 with every successive encounter, 1184 00:51:21,556 --> 00:51:23,658 between one of our drug warriors 1185 00:51:23,725 --> 00:51:25,225 and a citizen that goes awry... 1186 00:51:25,277 --> 00:51:27,227 Man: The people around here mind their own business! 1187 00:51:27,279 --> 00:51:30,114 Respect for cops and the laws they're trying to enforce 1188 00:51:30,198 --> 00:51:31,532 is lost. 1189 00:51:31,583 --> 00:51:33,834 Cearley: The guy was upset because he was saying 1190 00:51:33,902 --> 00:51:34,952 we were stopping him illegally, 1191 00:51:35,037 --> 00:51:36,737 it was unconstitutional. 1192 00:51:36,788 --> 00:51:39,674 He feels like he's been violated. 1193 00:51:39,741 --> 00:51:45,012 Is that fair? Maybe not. But I have a job to do. 1194 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,000 Narrator: Despite their commitment to their work, 1195 00:51:47,049 --> 00:51:49,083 officers I spoke to across the country 1196 00:51:49,134 --> 00:51:51,719 expressed growing concern not only about the effectiveness 1197 00:51:51,770 --> 00:51:53,971 of drug laws, but about their larger impact 1198 00:51:54,056 --> 00:51:56,724 on the relationship between police and the public. 1199 00:51:56,775 --> 00:51:58,476 It's one of the biggest hurdles, you know, 1200 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,445 how much time the community has spent 1201 00:52:01,530 --> 00:52:05,783 feeling like they couldn't trust the police. 1202 00:52:10,205 --> 00:52:12,606 Narrator: In Providence, officers who 20 years ago 1203 00:52:12,658 --> 00:52:15,576 appeared on TV as the picture of tough-on-crime cops... 1204 00:52:15,627 --> 00:52:17,161 7-1. It's got tinted windows... 1205 00:52:17,245 --> 00:52:20,114 Today seem conflicted over how things got where they are 1206 00:52:20,165 --> 00:52:22,416 and what a better approach might look like. 1207 00:52:22,467 --> 00:52:26,620 If you gonna go out there and go and cause chaos, 1208 00:52:26,672 --> 00:52:28,789 then why don't we put you in a structured program? 1209 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,675 And the military's a structured program, 1210 00:52:30,759 --> 00:52:34,145 send 'em to boot camp, see how they make out in boot camp. 1211 00:52:34,229 --> 00:52:35,179 National service. 1212 00:52:35,263 --> 00:52:36,764 National service? 1213 00:52:38,183 --> 00:52:39,850 Zuena: I mean, we're doing our part out here, 1214 00:52:39,935 --> 00:52:41,652 and it's frustrating a lot for us 1215 00:52:41,737 --> 00:52:44,855 because it just seems like because they're addicts, 1216 00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:47,191 they find themselves committing the same crime 1217 00:52:47,275 --> 00:52:49,694 that just put them in the jail, say, you know, 1218 00:52:49,778 --> 00:52:52,312 a week or so Friday. 1219 00:52:52,364 --> 00:52:53,313 Hold on a second. 1220 00:52:53,365 --> 00:52:54,365 All right, whoa. 1221 00:52:54,449 --> 00:52:57,151 What's going on? Let me see you I.D., please. 1222 00:52:57,202 --> 00:52:58,169 Let me see your I.D. 1223 00:52:58,253 --> 00:52:59,486 My I.D.? 1224 00:52:59,538 --> 00:53:00,588 Zuena: Come on, some responsibilities 1225 00:53:00,655 --> 00:53:02,456 go back to the parents. 1226 00:53:02,507 --> 00:53:03,824 Listen, straighten your kid out. 1227 00:53:03,875 --> 00:53:06,794 Well, that's easier said than done 1228 00:53:06,845 --> 00:53:09,930 when you have absentee parents. 1229 00:53:09,998 --> 00:53:11,349 What? You want... 1230 00:53:11,433 --> 00:53:12,767 relax, man, relax. 1231 00:53:12,834 --> 00:53:16,003 Some of these households the father is nonexistent, 1232 00:53:16,054 --> 00:53:18,839 the mother is trying to raise a family. 1233 00:53:18,890 --> 00:53:21,525 Those kids, the percentage of kids that break out of that 1234 00:53:21,610 --> 00:53:22,893 is really low. 1235 00:53:22,978 --> 00:53:25,980 Please. It's not me. 1236 00:53:26,031 --> 00:53:28,649 Zuena: I'll tell you what else bothers me. 1237 00:53:28,700 --> 00:53:32,119 If you keep having kids, and you can't afford them, 1238 00:53:32,187 --> 00:53:33,520 you know what? 1239 00:53:33,572 --> 00:53:36,857 You got to have a certain responsibility. 1240 00:53:36,908 --> 00:53:39,293 I'm not saying to frigging control or spay 'em, 1241 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,296 but Christ, [indistinct] You know? 1242 00:53:42,363 --> 00:53:43,697 But come on. 1243 00:53:43,749 --> 00:53:47,868 It's... Jesus. Ha ha. 1244 00:53:47,919 --> 00:53:49,036 What they should do, 1245 00:53:49,087 --> 00:53:50,588 I'd pay 'em, like, $5,000 or $10,000 1246 00:53:50,672 --> 00:53:52,973 to get like a vasectomy or something. 1247 00:53:53,041 --> 00:53:54,308 Ha ha! 1248 00:53:54,375 --> 00:53:56,093 Cheaper in the long run. 1249 00:53:56,178 --> 00:53:57,311 Ha ha! 1250 00:53:57,378 --> 00:53:59,713 Why are you laughing? 1251 00:53:59,765 --> 00:54:02,316 Man: Everybody's here but the police, 1252 00:54:02,383 --> 00:54:03,517 and they'll be here any minute. 1253 00:54:03,568 --> 00:54:05,352 Narrator: Watching seasoned drug warriors 1254 00:54:05,404 --> 00:54:07,988 struggle for answers to what they see as an unwinnable war... 1255 00:54:08,056 --> 00:54:09,824 Cuneen: We're actually doing them a favor, 1256 00:54:09,891 --> 00:54:11,492 getting them in out of the cold, 1257 00:54:11,559 --> 00:54:13,411 narrator: I wondered what it was about drugs 1258 00:54:13,495 --> 00:54:16,730 that made them such a perceived danger in the first place. 1259 00:54:16,782 --> 00:54:19,450 Bowden: You have to understand the war on drugs 1260 00:54:19,534 --> 00:54:22,236 has never been about drugs. 1261 00:54:25,173 --> 00:54:26,624 Newscaster: U.S. customs officers and police 1262 00:54:26,708 --> 00:54:29,043 are having another drive to round up dope smugglers. 1263 00:54:29,094 --> 00:54:31,378 There's millions of dollars worth of deadly heroin, 1264 00:54:31,430 --> 00:54:33,964 enough they say to kill 6 million people. 1265 00:54:34,049 --> 00:54:36,267 Narrator: Looking to find out more about the longer history 1266 00:54:36,351 --> 00:54:39,386 of drugs in America, I found an unlikely source 1267 00:54:39,438 --> 00:54:41,772 in Lincoln historian Richard Miller. 1268 00:54:41,857 --> 00:54:46,560 His research put drugs laws in a fascinating historical context. 1269 00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:50,314 Man: Historically anti-drug laws 1270 00:54:50,398 --> 00:54:52,983 have always been associated with race. 1271 00:54:54,703 --> 00:54:58,572 In the 1800s, certain kinds of drugs that are illicit today 1272 00:54:58,623 --> 00:55:00,324 were common in this country. 1273 00:55:00,408 --> 00:55:04,795 Cocaine was widely used, heroin. 1274 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,281 People using drugs, it was something that was just 1275 00:55:07,332 --> 00:55:08,999 ordinarily accepted. 1276 00:55:09,084 --> 00:55:13,888 Opium, for example, was used by middle-aged successful whites 1277 00:55:13,955 --> 00:55:16,340 often housewives in the South. 1278 00:55:16,424 --> 00:55:18,926 If people were addicted or abusing drugs, 1279 00:55:18,977 --> 00:55:22,629 they were viewed sympathetically as people who had to be helped. 1280 00:55:22,681 --> 00:55:26,817 It was seen as a public health issue rather than a crime issue. 1281 00:55:26,902 --> 00:55:29,636 But one of the first changes was on the west coast, 1282 00:55:29,688 --> 00:55:33,607 when smoking opium was made a criminal offense. 1283 00:55:33,658 --> 00:55:36,994 Now, why would opium smoking be illegal in California 1284 00:55:37,078 --> 00:55:38,496 but not in Mississippi? 1285 00:55:38,580 --> 00:55:39,997 What was going on in California 1286 00:55:40,081 --> 00:55:42,616 that was concerned about smoking opium? 1287 00:55:42,667 --> 00:55:45,669 Well, as it turns out, it had nothing to do with opium itself. 1288 00:55:45,754 --> 00:55:49,006 The concern was with the people associated with smoking opium, 1289 00:55:49,090 --> 00:55:53,844 and that was the Chinese, who had come to this country, 1290 00:55:53,929 --> 00:55:56,714 and many of whom were in California working hard, 1291 00:55:56,798 --> 00:55:58,933 working for very little pay, 1292 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,769 and becoming part of the American success story. 1293 00:56:01,836 --> 00:56:06,607 But their success was taking jobs away from white workers. 1294 00:56:06,674 --> 00:56:09,810 So politicians got together and decided, 1295 00:56:09,861 --> 00:56:11,345 "we got to find something about the Chinese 1296 00:56:11,396 --> 00:56:12,563 "for which they can be criminalized 1297 00:56:12,647 --> 00:56:14,899 to get them out of the way." 1298 00:56:14,983 --> 00:56:17,451 Now, of course you can't throw people in jail 1299 00:56:17,518 --> 00:56:19,653 simply because they're Chinese, 1300 00:56:19,704 --> 00:56:23,207 but you can throw 'em in jail because they smoke opium. 1301 00:56:24,525 --> 00:56:27,711 In the same way we saw things going on with cocaine. 1302 00:56:27,796 --> 00:56:29,663 Again, it was middle-aged successful people 1303 00:56:29,714 --> 00:56:31,698 in this country, business executives, 1304 00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:35,169 physicians, housewives, all perfectly legal, 1305 00:56:35,220 --> 00:56:36,971 but then around the turn of the century, 1306 00:56:37,038 --> 00:56:39,890 cocaine began being associated with blacks. 1307 00:56:39,975 --> 00:56:42,142 They could withstand police bullets, it was thought. 1308 00:56:42,210 --> 00:56:45,646 They can work hard all day, all night long and all day long, 1309 00:56:45,713 --> 00:56:47,848 again threatening the jobs of white workers, 1310 00:56:47,899 --> 00:56:51,652 and so laws began to be passed against cocaine. 1311 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,520 You're not arresting these people officially 1312 00:56:53,572 --> 00:56:54,822 because they're black; 1313 00:56:54,889 --> 00:56:56,440 You're arresting them because they've committed 1314 00:56:56,524 --> 00:56:58,108 some sort of drug violation. 1315 00:56:58,193 --> 00:57:01,111 Next of course we see a change in reputation of hemp 1316 00:57:01,196 --> 00:57:02,830 in this ad, 1317 00:57:02,897 --> 00:57:06,116 hemp was a legitimate crop from colonial times forward, 1318 00:57:06,201 --> 00:57:08,335 a widely appreciated commercial product, 1319 00:57:08,403 --> 00:57:11,705 but then in the 1930s, it changed into something 1320 00:57:11,756 --> 00:57:14,091 vicious and fearful called marijuana. 1321 00:57:14,175 --> 00:57:17,244 Because at that time marijuana smoking was being associated 1322 00:57:17,295 --> 00:57:20,547 with Mexicans working hard, working cheap, 1323 00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:23,217 and once again what was being outlawed was not being Mexican, 1324 00:57:23,268 --> 00:57:27,304 but just some habit associated with Mexicans. 1325 00:57:27,389 --> 00:57:29,890 These laws set up a very dangerous precedent 1326 00:57:29,941 --> 00:57:32,693 or racial control. 1327 00:57:34,279 --> 00:57:35,696 Narrator: It seemed that time and again, 1328 00:57:35,763 --> 00:57:38,983 drug laws targeted any immigrant group seen as a threat 1329 00:57:39,067 --> 00:57:40,951 to the established economic order. 1330 00:57:41,036 --> 00:57:42,953 But how then did black Americans, 1331 00:57:43,038 --> 00:57:45,239 who came to this country over 200 years ago, 1332 00:57:45,290 --> 00:57:48,158 become the primary target of drug laws in the modern era? 1333 00:57:48,243 --> 00:57:50,628 Simon: Well, the way to think about African American history 1334 00:57:50,712 --> 00:57:53,547 in the 20th century is as an immigrant story. 1335 00:57:53,614 --> 00:57:56,550 I mean, the transition from the rural to the urban, 1336 00:57:56,617 --> 00:57:58,385 it's one of the great mass migrations 1337 00:57:58,453 --> 00:57:59,970 in the history of the world. 1338 00:58:00,055 --> 00:58:03,474 Wilson: When blacks came out of slavery, 1339 00:58:03,558 --> 00:58:05,509 they were heavily concentrated in the South 1340 00:58:05,593 --> 00:58:07,478 in farming-type jobs. 1341 00:58:07,562 --> 00:58:10,297 As industries were expanding in the north, 1342 00:58:10,348 --> 00:58:14,318 blacks were recruited to come to work in factories. 1343 00:58:14,402 --> 00:58:16,854 This gave rise to the great migration 1344 00:58:16,938 --> 00:58:20,574 of blacks flowing into urban areas. 1345 00:58:20,641 --> 00:58:22,642 Narrator: Before she came to work for my family, 1346 00:58:22,694 --> 00:58:25,112 nannie jeter had joined the wave of black Americans 1347 00:58:25,163 --> 00:58:27,331 who had moved north during the great migration. 1348 00:58:27,415 --> 00:58:29,416 She took me down to her childhood home 1349 00:58:29,484 --> 00:58:30,834 in Southern Virginia. 1350 00:58:30,919 --> 00:58:33,504 Nannie: We grew up running through the woods. 1351 00:58:33,588 --> 00:58:35,506 What a beautiful outside life. 1352 00:58:35,590 --> 00:58:37,624 The old victrola would play, 1353 00:58:37,676 --> 00:58:39,626 and somebody would square dance, 1354 00:58:39,678 --> 00:58:42,713 and it was a completely different world. 1355 00:58:42,797 --> 00:58:44,831 I loved life in the South. 1356 00:58:44,883 --> 00:58:46,567 Now, in that environment 1357 00:58:46,634 --> 00:58:48,769 that seemed so wonderful in the South, 1358 00:58:48,837 --> 00:58:52,072 why did you ever decide you wanted to leave the South? 1359 00:58:54,008 --> 00:59:00,314 I'd left the South because I had to. 1360 00:59:00,365 --> 00:59:03,984 Jim crow during that time, you couldn't... 1361 00:59:04,035 --> 00:59:05,652 black people, if they was raped, 1362 00:59:05,704 --> 00:59:08,021 they couldn't say they was raped. 1363 00:59:08,073 --> 00:59:10,690 So you never hear the rape. 1364 00:59:10,742 --> 00:59:12,659 Only the white lady got raped. 1365 00:59:12,711 --> 00:59:14,828 But the black woman... 1366 00:59:14,879 --> 00:59:19,917 I was innocent, but people didn't think I was innocent. 1367 00:59:20,001 --> 00:59:22,869 No one knew I was leaving. 1368 00:59:22,921 --> 00:59:26,256 I wanted to bring my children up different. 1369 00:59:26,341 --> 00:59:29,059 North was the way out. 1370 00:59:29,144 --> 00:59:32,096 I thought it would make a big difference. 1371 00:59:32,180 --> 00:59:35,766 Narrator: Nannie had never spoken so openly about her past 1372 00:59:35,850 --> 00:59:39,019 and what it was that had compelled her north. 1373 00:59:40,488 --> 00:59:42,439 But as I learned more about her life, 1374 00:59:42,524 --> 00:59:44,558 I began to see the deeper roots of the drug war 1375 00:59:44,609 --> 00:59:47,394 for black American families like nannie's. 1376 00:59:47,445 --> 00:59:51,115 Sadly, what many of these families came to find 1377 00:59:51,199 --> 00:59:55,452 is that they had not really escaped Jim crow at all. 1378 00:59:55,537 --> 00:59:59,957 But found themselves in a new system of racial control, 1379 01:00:00,041 --> 01:00:01,341 a new Jim crow. 1380 01:00:01,409 --> 01:00:05,095 Racially discriminatory laws across America 1381 01:00:05,180 --> 01:00:09,633 ensured that poor people of color migrating from the South 1382 01:00:09,717 --> 01:00:12,919 would be confined to certain parts of the city 1383 01:00:12,971 --> 01:00:15,105 that we now think of as ghettos. 1384 01:00:15,190 --> 01:00:17,691 Simon: Very few people know this, 1385 01:00:17,758 --> 01:00:19,259 but if you go back and you look 1386 01:00:19,310 --> 01:00:21,428 at how African American housing patterns were established 1387 01:00:21,479 --> 01:00:23,230 in the '30s and '40s, 1388 01:00:23,281 --> 01:00:25,432 even as a result of the new deal, 1389 01:00:25,483 --> 01:00:28,569 the fha, which was a Democratic new deal program 1390 01:00:28,620 --> 01:00:30,821 to inspire home ownership in the midst of the depression 1391 01:00:30,872 --> 01:00:33,707 did more to create ghettoes than any other federal program 1392 01:00:33,774 --> 01:00:35,292 before or since. 1393 01:00:35,376 --> 01:00:37,110 Why? Because when they were creating 1394 01:00:37,162 --> 01:00:39,379 the culture of home ownership in America, 1395 01:00:39,447 --> 01:00:41,832 they were exclusionary to black people. 1396 01:00:41,916 --> 01:00:44,077 They put them in the areas that were maybe a little bit 1397 01:00:44,118 --> 01:00:47,838 economically depressed and subject to heavy rentership, 1398 01:00:47,922 --> 01:00:50,641 and then the redlined those areas, 1399 01:00:50,725 --> 01:00:52,342 and they would not write fha mortgages 1400 01:00:52,427 --> 01:00:54,178 in those neighborhoods. 1401 01:00:54,262 --> 01:00:55,646 Once those areas were redlined, 1402 01:00:55,730 --> 01:00:57,898 that was basically a design for a ghetto. 1403 01:00:57,965 --> 01:01:01,301 In 1950, people in these neighborhoods were poor 1404 01:01:01,352 --> 01:01:03,020 but they had jobs. 1405 01:01:03,104 --> 01:01:06,773 By 1960, we're talking about the jobless poor. 1406 01:01:06,825 --> 01:01:09,776 Because industries had moved out of the inner city 1407 01:01:09,828 --> 01:01:13,497 leaving behind concentrated populations of poor people, 1408 01:01:13,581 --> 01:01:17,084 vulnerable to drug trafficking and all the other problems 1409 01:01:17,151 --> 01:01:19,670 associated with joblessness. 1410 01:01:19,754 --> 01:01:22,372 Simon: And what happens when groups are denied access 1411 01:01:22,457 --> 01:01:25,709 to the core economic engines in a society? 1412 01:01:25,793 --> 01:01:28,428 They create their own out of prohibited economies. 1413 01:01:28,496 --> 01:01:30,514 That was true of the Italians and the Irish 1414 01:01:30,598 --> 01:01:33,016 and the Jews and everybody else who came to the cities 1415 01:01:33,101 --> 01:01:35,886 a generation before African Americans arrived. 1416 01:01:35,970 --> 01:01:40,974 Nannie: In 1969, during that time, I couldn't get a job. 1417 01:01:41,025 --> 01:01:42,643 It was like all the doors were shut. 1418 01:01:42,694 --> 01:01:45,279 When I came to work for your parents, 1419 01:01:45,346 --> 01:01:47,814 I was happy just to have this job. 1420 01:01:47,866 --> 01:01:50,517 Narrator: Do you remember this first time you saw me? 1421 01:01:50,568 --> 01:01:51,985 Mm-hmm. Yes. 1422 01:01:52,036 --> 01:01:54,071 You was about 3 days old 1423 01:01:54,155 --> 01:01:56,406 when your mom brought you home from the hospital. 1424 01:01:56,491 --> 01:01:58,325 That was the first time I seen you. 1425 01:01:58,376 --> 01:02:02,529 You were a beautiful baby that I fell in love with. 1426 01:02:02,580 --> 01:02:04,581 And you became my baby. 1427 01:02:04,666 --> 01:02:06,500 I loved your family. 1428 01:02:06,551 --> 01:02:10,504 I guess I never dreamt that you guys would ever leave new haven. 1429 01:02:10,555 --> 01:02:12,806 Narrator: I've always known that when I was very young, 1430 01:02:12,873 --> 01:02:14,808 my family's circumstances improved, 1431 01:02:14,875 --> 01:02:17,544 and we moved from Connecticut, where my dad had been a doctor, 1432 01:02:17,595 --> 01:02:19,263 to a comfortable suburb of New York City, 1433 01:02:19,347 --> 01:02:21,598 where he'd started a successful business. 1434 01:02:21,683 --> 01:02:23,267 What I didn't know 1435 01:02:23,351 --> 01:02:25,619 was how this had impacted nannie and her family. 1436 01:02:25,687 --> 01:02:27,554 Nannie: Your mom, she said, 1437 01:02:27,622 --> 01:02:31,325 "my husband's gonna double your pay if you can go with us." 1438 01:02:31,392 --> 01:02:36,730 I felt more money would make a better life for my family. 1439 01:02:36,798 --> 01:02:40,133 That was the wrong thing to do. 1440 01:02:40,201 --> 01:02:43,036 I was always working in New York 1441 01:02:43,087 --> 01:02:45,756 whilst my kids were in new haven. 1442 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:52,579 My youngest son, James, he started smoking marijuana at 14, 1443 01:02:52,647 --> 01:02:57,450 and at 20 he started to really go into drugs. 1444 01:02:57,585 --> 01:03:01,221 It is so amazing how you spend your life providing, 1445 01:03:01,289 --> 01:03:05,058 loving your kids that you don't see the mental part 1446 01:03:05,126 --> 01:03:07,694 that's going on in their life. 1447 01:03:07,762 --> 01:03:10,030 In turn, then you look at white kids, 1448 01:03:10,097 --> 01:03:13,433 they have their parent and they have a housekeeper 1449 01:03:13,484 --> 01:03:15,152 that loves them, 1450 01:03:15,236 --> 01:03:19,039 but yet still your kids are most of the time alone. 1451 01:03:19,106 --> 01:03:22,242 Narrator: Then what happened with James? 1452 01:03:22,293 --> 01:03:27,414 He got... Um... 1453 01:03:30,785 --> 01:03:33,620 He died with aids... 1454 01:03:33,671 --> 01:03:36,723 From used, you know, needles. 1455 01:03:39,060 --> 01:03:41,178 Narrator: As nannie and I returned to new haven together, 1456 01:03:41,262 --> 01:03:43,630 I suddenly saw my birthplace with new eyes. 1457 01:03:43,681 --> 01:03:45,899 Processing so much I hadn't understood 1458 01:03:45,966 --> 01:03:49,269 about the intersection of James' life and my own. 1459 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:52,022 But what else had I missed? 1460 01:03:52,106 --> 01:03:54,658 Growing up in the wake of the civil rights movement, 1461 01:03:54,742 --> 01:03:56,476 I guess like many people 1462 01:03:56,527 --> 01:03:59,145 I imagined things were gonna get better for black America, 1463 01:03:59,197 --> 01:04:01,314 but as it turned out, in many ways, 1464 01:04:01,366 --> 01:04:03,417 the worst was yet to come. 1465 01:04:07,839 --> 01:04:10,257 Man: Growing up in Florida, 1466 01:04:10,324 --> 01:04:13,877 I remember thinking that I never wanted to leave Florida. 1467 01:04:13,961 --> 01:04:15,662 I used to tell my friends, 1468 01:04:15,713 --> 01:04:18,298 like before we'd go out and do some illegal activity, 1469 01:04:18,349 --> 01:04:20,684 I used to give them a pep talk and say, 1470 01:04:20,768 --> 01:04:25,722 "you know, God is on our side because he knows that we're poor 1471 01:04:25,807 --> 01:04:28,508 "and God wouldn't have us be poor, 1472 01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:30,227 so he understands what we're doing." 1473 01:04:30,311 --> 01:04:33,697 And you know, I actually believed that. 1474 01:04:38,653 --> 01:04:41,354 Narrator: Carl hart was part of a generation of black men 1475 01:04:41,406 --> 01:04:44,074 who experienced first hand the most dramatic escalation 1476 01:04:44,158 --> 01:04:46,460 of the drug war in American history. 1477 01:04:46,527 --> 01:04:48,245 Today a Professor of psychology 1478 01:04:48,329 --> 01:04:50,247 at New York's Columbia university, 1479 01:04:50,331 --> 01:04:52,382 his past experience remains a driving force 1480 01:04:52,467 --> 01:04:53,700 in his work. 1481 01:04:53,751 --> 01:04:56,586 Hart: Growing up in the 1970s and '80s, 1482 01:04:56,671 --> 01:04:58,889 man of my friends and family members 1483 01:04:58,973 --> 01:05:00,974 got caught up in drug use. 1484 01:05:01,041 --> 01:05:04,428 So I was always interested in drugs of abuse. 1485 01:05:04,512 --> 01:05:07,931 What I do today is that I actually give people drugs 1486 01:05:08,015 --> 01:05:10,216 in the laboratory to study the effects 1487 01:05:10,268 --> 01:05:13,437 of drugs like methamphetamine, cocaine, marijuana. 1488 01:05:13,521 --> 01:05:15,021 Narrator: Though Carl's academic research 1489 01:05:15,073 --> 01:05:16,857 is on the science behind addiction, 1490 01:05:16,908 --> 01:05:20,077 his own experience has shown him how often drug laws are shaped 1491 01:05:20,161 --> 01:05:23,563 less by scientific concern than by political ones. 1492 01:05:23,614 --> 01:05:26,833 Hart: In the 1980s, like many people in the black community, 1493 01:05:26,901 --> 01:05:30,236 I was concerned about the havoc that drugs were wreaking 1494 01:05:30,288 --> 01:05:31,738 in our community 1495 01:05:31,789 --> 01:05:34,741 or the havoc that I thought drugs were wreaking 1496 01:05:34,792 --> 01:05:36,376 in our community. 1497 01:05:36,427 --> 01:05:38,745 That brings us to the major and sweeping effort 1498 01:05:38,796 --> 01:05:41,348 that I'm announcing this morning. 1499 01:05:41,415 --> 01:05:43,600 Narrator: In the long history of the drug war, 1500 01:05:43,684 --> 01:05:46,686 no single chapter would turn out to impact black America 1501 01:05:46,754 --> 01:05:50,256 more deeply than the 8 years of the Reagan presidency. 1502 01:05:50,308 --> 01:05:52,976 What do you do when someone offers you drugs? 1503 01:05:53,060 --> 01:05:55,195 All: Just say no! 1504 01:05:55,262 --> 01:05:57,814 Narrator: While Nancy Reagan's popular slogan "just say no" 1505 01:05:57,899 --> 01:06:01,034 took what would seem a motherly approach to drug prevention, 1506 01:06:01,101 --> 01:06:03,487 her husband took a far tougher approach. 1507 01:06:03,571 --> 01:06:06,957 Ronald Reagan: We will utilize the FBI, the DEA, the IRS, 1508 01:06:07,041 --> 01:06:10,160 the atf, immigration and naturalization service, 1509 01:06:10,244 --> 01:06:12,996 United States marshal services, amd the coast guard. 1510 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:15,448 We intend to do what is necessary 1511 01:06:15,516 --> 01:06:17,217 to end the drug menace 1512 01:06:17,284 --> 01:06:20,587 and to eliminate this dark, evil enemy within. 1513 01:06:20,638 --> 01:06:23,423 [Child yelling in spanish] 1514 01:06:27,929 --> 01:06:30,263 Alexander: When Reagan announced that he was planning 1515 01:06:30,314 --> 01:06:32,933 to rev up the drug war more than ever, 1516 01:06:32,984 --> 01:06:35,018 it was political opportunity 1517 01:06:35,102 --> 01:06:37,487 because at the time drug crime was actually on the decline, 1518 01:06:37,572 --> 01:06:38,822 not on the rise. 1519 01:06:38,906 --> 01:06:41,525 Less than 2% of the American population 1520 01:06:41,609 --> 01:06:45,478 even identifies drugs as the nation's top priority. 1521 01:06:45,530 --> 01:06:48,314 But then of course they got lucky. 1522 01:06:49,584 --> 01:06:51,084 Crack cocaine. 1523 01:06:51,151 --> 01:06:54,204 Crack, the super addictive and deadly cocaine concentrate. 1524 01:06:54,288 --> 01:06:57,824 Crack hit the streets, and suddenly there was just hysteria 1525 01:06:57,875 --> 01:07:01,995 about this brand-new demon-like form of cocaine. 1526 01:07:02,046 --> 01:07:05,632 Reagan: Today, there's a new epidemic... smokeable cocaine... 1527 01:07:05,683 --> 01:07:07,717 otherwise known as crack. 1528 01:07:07,802 --> 01:07:10,020 It is an uncontrolled fire. 1529 01:07:10,104 --> 01:07:11,188 Go, go, go, go! 1530 01:07:11,272 --> 01:07:12,639 Police! 1531 01:07:12,690 --> 01:07:14,140 Reagan: The American people want their government to get tough 1532 01:07:14,192 --> 01:07:15,442 and to go on the offensive. 1533 01:07:15,509 --> 01:07:18,344 And that's exactly what we intend 1534 01:07:18,396 --> 01:07:20,680 with more ferocity than ever before. 1535 01:07:20,731 --> 01:07:21,848 Freeze! 1536 01:07:21,899 --> 01:07:23,817 Police! Freeze! 1537 01:07:23,868 --> 01:07:25,235 There's your crack. 1538 01:07:25,319 --> 01:07:28,121 Newscaster: If smaller cities don't have a crack crisis now, 1539 01:07:28,188 --> 01:07:29,623 they will soon. 1540 01:07:29,690 --> 01:07:31,992 Woman: They're just carrying on like it's their living room, 1541 01:07:32,043 --> 01:07:35,045 like this is their home, like they belong here. 1542 01:07:35,129 --> 01:07:36,746 They don't belong here. 1543 01:07:36,831 --> 01:07:41,635 Hart: What we saw were images of black urbanites on TV 1544 01:07:41,702 --> 01:07:45,572 smoking crack cocaine over and over and over. 1545 01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:49,342 And then these incredible stories were associated with 1546 01:07:49,393 --> 01:07:51,845 crack cocaine and they were taken as fact. 1547 01:07:51,896 --> 01:07:53,480 Newscaster: The drug so powerful, 1548 01:07:53,547 --> 01:07:55,815 it will empty the money from your pockets, 1549 01:07:55,883 --> 01:07:58,268 make you sell the watch off your wrist, 1550 01:07:58,352 --> 01:08:00,219 the clothes off your back. 1551 01:08:00,271 --> 01:08:01,988 Or kill your mother. 1552 01:08:02,056 --> 01:08:04,407 Yeah. That's what we're seeing. 1553 01:08:04,492 --> 01:08:07,110 Hart: But if you go back to the 1920s and the '30s, 1554 01:08:07,194 --> 01:08:09,329 this is what people were saying about marijuana. 1555 01:08:09,396 --> 01:08:11,414 Man: As elvin takes that frying pan from the stove 1556 01:08:11,499 --> 01:08:13,450 and kills his mother with it. 1557 01:08:13,534 --> 01:08:15,502 Not a very nice thing to look at, 1558 01:08:15,569 --> 01:08:17,003 but this is marijuana. 1559 01:08:17,071 --> 01:08:18,788 Hart: If you say that now in our society, 1560 01:08:18,873 --> 01:08:21,007 people will look at you like you're crazy, 1561 01:08:21,075 --> 01:08:24,761 but whenever you have a new drug introduced into society, 1562 01:08:24,845 --> 01:08:27,347 you can say incredible things about that drug 1563 01:08:27,414 --> 01:08:29,082 and people will believe you. 1564 01:08:29,133 --> 01:08:31,918 Tip o'Neil: Our society is now infested 1565 01:08:31,969 --> 01:08:34,020 with drug abusers. 1566 01:08:34,088 --> 01:08:37,090 Man: There was a tremendous fear of this epidemic 1567 01:08:37,141 --> 01:08:38,642 that was gonna overcome all of us, 1568 01:08:38,726 --> 01:08:41,728 not only with drug addiction, 1569 01:08:41,779 --> 01:08:45,165 but the violence in turn that was gonna come out of this 1570 01:08:45,232 --> 01:08:47,433 and tremendous fear led to this view 1571 01:08:47,485 --> 01:08:49,202 that the criminal laws would save us. 1572 01:08:49,269 --> 01:08:52,322 Mauer: Democrats as well as Republicans got on board 1573 01:08:52,406 --> 01:08:56,242 to pass a whole new generation of mandatory sentencing laws. 1574 01:08:56,294 --> 01:08:59,296 These laws raced through congress in record time. 1575 01:08:59,380 --> 01:09:01,131 There were virtually no hearings held, 1576 01:09:01,215 --> 01:09:04,801 no consultation with experts who knew something about drug abuse. 1577 01:09:04,885 --> 01:09:08,171 Man: The yeas are 97, the nays are 2. 1578 01:09:08,255 --> 01:09:09,673 This is something that had to be dealt with, 1579 01:09:09,757 --> 01:09:11,641 and of course, you know, election year fever 1580 01:09:11,726 --> 01:09:13,893 did take hold of some people. 1581 01:09:13,961 --> 01:09:15,795 Narrator: With overwhelming support, 1582 01:09:15,846 --> 01:09:18,898 Ronald Reagan signed into law an unprecedented array 1583 01:09:18,966 --> 01:09:21,851 of mandatory minimum sentences for drug crimes. 1584 01:09:21,936 --> 01:09:25,522 But no drug would receive harsher penalties than crack. 1585 01:09:25,606 --> 01:09:27,440 The penalties were outrageous. 1586 01:09:27,491 --> 01:09:30,243 That is, the penalty for crack cocaine 1587 01:09:30,310 --> 01:09:33,813 was made 100 times more punitive than for powder cocaine. 1588 01:09:33,864 --> 01:09:35,915 Newscaster: The acceptance of coke is widespread, 1589 01:09:35,983 --> 01:09:37,784 commonplace among professionals. 1590 01:09:37,835 --> 01:09:39,475 Ogletree: Whites were using powder cocaine 1591 01:09:39,503 --> 01:09:41,988 in boardrooms, in suburban America; 1592 01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:44,708 Blacks were using crack cocaine in public housing 1593 01:09:44,792 --> 01:09:46,042 and on the street, 1594 01:09:46,127 --> 01:09:47,544 and what's the response? 1595 01:09:47,628 --> 01:09:49,713 Just wiped me out, straight off the map for nothing. 1596 01:09:49,797 --> 01:09:52,132 57 years for this small rock, you know. 1597 01:09:52,183 --> 01:09:53,550 You know what I'm saying? 1598 01:09:53,634 --> 01:09:55,501 I want to know why I'm being like I murdered somebody, 1599 01:09:55,553 --> 01:09:56,770 you know. 1600 01:09:56,837 --> 01:09:58,337 Narrator: Over time as the number of blacks 1601 01:09:58,389 --> 01:10:00,857 in America's prisons for drug crimes skyrocketed 1602 01:10:00,941 --> 01:10:02,692 for outpacing the number of whites, 1603 01:10:02,777 --> 01:10:04,944 many people, including many judges, 1604 01:10:05,012 --> 01:10:07,513 began to question the disparity in sentencing 1605 01:10:07,565 --> 01:10:09,015 between crack and powder. 1606 01:10:09,066 --> 01:10:11,117 Bennett: Well, that's the major reason 1607 01:10:11,185 --> 01:10:13,536 why we agreed to be interviewed. 1608 01:10:13,621 --> 01:10:17,707 In my view, it is not fair to have a 100:1 disparity 1609 01:10:17,792 --> 01:10:21,244 in the difference between powder cocaine and crack cocaine, 1610 01:10:21,328 --> 01:10:22,996 and let me explain what that means. 1611 01:10:23,047 --> 01:10:27,634 A crack defendant with 5 grams of crack cocaine 1612 01:10:27,785 --> 01:10:31,904 is treated the same as a powder cocaine defendant 1613 01:10:31,972 --> 01:10:33,757 with 100 times more weight. 1614 01:10:33,841 --> 01:10:37,727 In other words, 500 grams of powder cocaine. 1615 01:10:37,812 --> 01:10:39,729 And I don't think most people realize this. 1616 01:10:39,814 --> 01:10:42,599 What is the difference between powder cocaine 1617 01:10:42,683 --> 01:10:45,318 and crack cocaine? Do you know? 1618 01:10:45,385 --> 01:10:47,854 All crack cocaine comes from powder cocaine. 1619 01:10:47,905 --> 01:10:53,326 The difference is you add baking soda, water, 1620 01:10:53,393 --> 01:10:55,111 and heat from an oven. 1621 01:10:55,196 --> 01:10:57,197 That's the only difference. 1622 01:10:59,133 --> 01:11:00,667 Woman: I run a group called 1623 01:11:00,734 --> 01:11:02,368 families against mandatory minimums. 1624 01:11:02,420 --> 01:11:04,454 I started it in 1991. 1625 01:11:04,538 --> 01:11:06,840 I think what I didn't know was how incredibly hard it would be 1626 01:11:06,907 --> 01:11:08,174 to change the laws. 1627 01:11:08,242 --> 01:11:10,543 Narrator: Julie Stewart first learned about the severity 1628 01:11:10,594 --> 01:11:13,630 of mandatory minimums when a family member was picked up 1629 01:11:13,714 --> 01:11:15,849 on marijuana charges. 1630 01:11:15,916 --> 01:11:17,350 After my brother was arrested 1631 01:11:17,417 --> 01:11:19,302 and sentenced to 5 years in prison, 1632 01:11:19,386 --> 01:11:20,720 I started meeting other families 1633 01:11:20,771 --> 01:11:23,022 whose kids were in for so much longer. 1634 01:11:23,090 --> 01:11:26,192 And I realized my brother was lucky he only got 5 years. 1635 01:11:26,260 --> 01:11:29,446 Crack penalties are ridiculously disproportionate 1636 01:11:29,530 --> 01:11:30,780 to all other drugs. 1637 01:11:30,865 --> 01:11:33,199 Narrator: In her fight against mandatory minimums, 1638 01:11:33,267 --> 01:11:35,785 Julie took her cause to the U.S. sentencing commission, 1639 01:11:35,870 --> 01:11:38,288 where she found a powerful and unlikely ally. 1640 01:11:38,372 --> 01:11:39,873 I'm Billy Wilkins, 1641 01:11:39,940 --> 01:11:41,291 and I was the first federal judge in the nation 1642 01:11:41,375 --> 01:11:43,776 selected by president Ronald Reagan 1643 01:11:43,828 --> 01:11:45,545 to serve as the first chair of 1644 01:11:45,612 --> 01:11:47,580 the United States sentencing commission. 1645 01:11:47,648 --> 01:11:49,549 Stewart: In 1995, the sentencing commission 1646 01:11:49,617 --> 01:11:54,053 actually voted to make crack and powder cocaine exactly the same. 1647 01:11:54,121 --> 01:11:56,289 Now, is crack a dangerous drug? Yes, it is. 1648 01:11:56,357 --> 01:11:58,458 Is it highly addictive? Yes, it is. 1649 01:11:58,526 --> 01:12:00,894 But the commission looked at this on many occasions 1650 01:12:00,961 --> 01:12:05,648 and found that sentencing crack cocaine 100:1 was unjust. 1651 01:12:05,733 --> 01:12:08,568 There can be no doubt that the higher penalties 1652 01:12:08,636 --> 01:12:11,571 for crack offenders falls disproportionately 1653 01:12:11,638 --> 01:12:13,690 on minority defendants. 1654 01:12:13,774 --> 01:12:16,826 51% of the crack is used by the white population. 1655 01:12:16,911 --> 01:12:19,078 In Los Angeles, California, 1656 01:12:19,146 --> 01:12:23,983 there has not been 1 white conviction, not 1. 1657 01:12:24,034 --> 01:12:25,084 Narrator: Yet despite the evidence 1658 01:12:25,152 --> 01:12:26,920 presented by judges and experts, 1659 01:12:26,987 --> 01:12:28,321 congress was unyielding, 1660 01:12:28,372 --> 01:12:31,508 insistent on maintaining the crack/powder disparity. 1661 01:12:31,592 --> 01:12:33,843 I must just tell you in my view at least 1662 01:12:33,928 --> 01:12:35,929 the findings are very vulnerable. 1663 01:12:35,996 --> 01:12:38,181 These people are killing our kids. 1664 01:12:38,265 --> 01:12:40,466 These people are disrupting society. 1665 01:12:40,518 --> 01:12:43,903 These people are wrecking our society. 1666 01:12:48,342 --> 01:12:49,526 [Gavel raps] 1667 01:12:49,610 --> 01:12:50,843 Woman: All rise. 1668 01:12:50,895 --> 01:12:53,012 United States district court is now in session. 1669 01:12:53,063 --> 01:12:55,532 The honorable mark w. Bennett presiding. 1670 01:12:55,616 --> 01:12:58,184 I don't think people understand really how crucial this is, 1671 01:12:58,235 --> 01:13:01,687 how serious this is, what's really going on. 1672 01:13:01,739 --> 01:13:03,823 Bennett: Looking at Maurice's case today, 1673 01:13:03,874 --> 01:13:06,492 he's facing a double mandatory minimum 1674 01:13:06,544 --> 01:13:08,578 from 10 years to 20 years. 1675 01:13:08,662 --> 01:13:10,630 Does he deserve a 20-year sentence? 1676 01:13:10,697 --> 01:13:12,031 I don't think so. 1677 01:13:12,082 --> 01:13:15,134 Narrator: In 2005, after years of concern from the bench 1678 01:13:15,202 --> 01:13:16,636 about unfair sentencing, 1679 01:13:16,703 --> 01:13:19,088 the supreme court ruled that judges should be given back 1680 01:13:19,173 --> 01:13:21,057 a certain degree of discretion 1681 01:13:21,141 --> 01:13:23,209 to determine what a fair sentence should be. 1682 01:13:23,260 --> 01:13:26,512 In response, judge Bennett did something historic. 1683 01:13:26,564 --> 01:13:32,101 Yes, I'm the first United States district court judge... 1684 01:13:32,186 --> 01:13:34,938 To do a 1:1 sentencing ratio 1685 01:13:35,022 --> 01:13:36,990 between crack and powder cocaine. 1686 01:13:37,057 --> 01:13:38,441 Haltiwanger: Judge Bennett gave me a 1:1 ratio 1687 01:13:38,525 --> 01:13:40,226 instead of 100:1. 1688 01:13:40,277 --> 01:13:42,495 So he took my guideline from, like, 30 years 1689 01:13:42,562 --> 01:13:46,115 to, like, I think I was under 10 years or right at 10 years, 1690 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,952 but it didn't help. 1691 01:13:49,036 --> 01:13:51,087 Bennett: In Maurice's case today, 1692 01:13:51,171 --> 01:13:54,090 the justice was trumped by the mandatory minimum. 1693 01:13:54,174 --> 01:13:57,010 Narrator: Judge Bennett's decision to use a 1:1 ratio 1694 01:13:57,077 --> 01:13:58,962 turns out to have been largely symbolic 1695 01:13:59,046 --> 01:14:01,764 since congress' complex system of mandatory minimums 1696 01:14:01,849 --> 01:14:03,182 has the final say. 1697 01:14:03,250 --> 01:14:05,551 Haltiwanger: The minimum of conspiracy is 10 years, 1698 01:14:05,603 --> 01:14:08,771 and then with me having a prior drug felony, 1699 01:14:08,856 --> 01:14:13,643 the minimum is 20 years, so I got a 20-year sentence today. 1700 01:14:14,761 --> 01:14:15,979 Narrator: This has backfired. 1701 01:14:16,063 --> 01:14:17,146 I mean, if I go around the country 1702 01:14:17,231 --> 01:14:18,398 and I see all the people in jail 1703 01:14:18,449 --> 01:14:21,317 for unbelievable sentences, how did this go wrong? 1704 01:14:21,402 --> 01:14:24,988 Well, I don't know that it went wrong, 1705 01:14:25,072 --> 01:14:26,939 it just I guess the system worked, 1706 01:14:26,991 --> 01:14:30,043 the system worked the way congress planned for it to work. 1707 01:14:30,110 --> 01:14:32,078 They're not gonna come home and campaign 1708 01:14:32,129 --> 01:14:35,131 on the fact that I'm for more lenient sentences 1709 01:14:35,215 --> 01:14:36,716 for drug dealers. 1710 01:14:36,783 --> 01:14:39,168 Taking on the drug cartel and winning the drug war! 1711 01:14:39,253 --> 01:14:40,503 Bennett: Just the opposite. 1712 01:14:40,587 --> 01:14:41,888 I'm gonna come home and campaign 1713 01:14:41,955 --> 01:14:43,790 that I want tough sentences for drug dealers. 1714 01:14:43,857 --> 01:14:45,458 I just think we need tougher sentencing. 1715 01:14:45,526 --> 01:14:47,860 Bennett: But whether congress started out with race in mind 1716 01:14:47,928 --> 01:14:52,398 or not, it turns out in fact and in practice 1717 01:14:52,466 --> 01:14:56,302 that minorities are targeted by these mandatory minimums, 1718 01:14:56,353 --> 01:14:59,022 100:1 ratio, more than others are, 1719 01:14:59,106 --> 01:15:00,857 and that's not good. 1720 01:15:00,941 --> 01:15:02,659 Stewart: And it's very interesting, 1721 01:15:02,743 --> 01:15:05,144 because African Americans do not use crack cocaine 1722 01:15:05,195 --> 01:15:07,363 any more than whites. 1723 01:15:07,448 --> 01:15:09,248 In fact, whites use it more. 1724 01:15:09,316 --> 01:15:12,785 African Americans make up 13% of the population in the U.S., 1725 01:15:12,936 --> 01:15:14,454 and they are about 13% of the crack users. 1726 01:15:14,505 --> 01:15:17,423 In other words, the rest of the users are white and brown, 1727 01:15:17,741 --> 01:15:19,592 which is kind of amazing 1728 01:15:19,659 --> 01:15:23,212 because 90% of the crack cocaine defendants in the federal system 1729 01:15:23,214 --> 01:15:24,997 are African American. 1730 01:15:30,220 --> 01:15:33,473 Hart: I came back to South Florida for multiple reasons. 1731 01:15:33,524 --> 01:15:36,893 To attend a scientific meeting. 1732 01:15:36,977 --> 01:15:40,513 And to attend some court proceedings. 1733 01:15:40,564 --> 01:15:44,200 And of course I'm here to see my family 'cause they're all here. 1734 01:15:44,284 --> 01:15:47,203 Narrator: Like so many people I met 1735 01:15:47,287 --> 01:15:48,705 in the world of the drug war, 1736 01:15:48,789 --> 01:15:51,023 Carl hart's story turned out to be far more complex 1737 01:15:51,075 --> 01:15:52,658 that I'd originally understood. 1738 01:15:52,710 --> 01:15:55,745 After overcoming great odds to break out of his past, 1739 01:15:55,829 --> 01:15:57,830 Carl suddenly found himself drawn back 1740 01:15:57,881 --> 01:15:59,999 into the world he had left behind. 1741 01:16:00,050 --> 01:16:02,802 Man: And on the other charge, 1742 01:16:02,869 --> 01:16:04,387 the possession of cocaine charge 1743 01:16:04,471 --> 01:16:06,305 you'll be pleading no contest? 1744 01:16:06,373 --> 01:16:07,924 Yes, sir. 1745 01:16:08,008 --> 01:16:11,144 Hart: So Tobias is my son who I found out was my son 1746 01:16:11,211 --> 01:16:13,379 about 8 or 9 years ago. 1747 01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:19,018 He was 16 when I found out, and Tobias is now 26. 1748 01:16:19,069 --> 01:16:22,188 9 years later I'm still struggling with it 1749 01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:26,225 because I am responsible for this person being here, 1750 01:16:26,276 --> 01:16:30,947 but yet I had no influence on how this person was shaped. 1751 01:16:31,031 --> 01:16:33,399 Right now, he has 2 open charges. 1752 01:16:33,450 --> 01:16:35,334 He has a cocaine charge. 1753 01:16:35,402 --> 01:16:39,238 It's not encouraging. 1754 01:16:41,908 --> 01:16:44,043 So your situation, 1755 01:16:44,094 --> 01:16:45,511 how are you doing business-wise? 1756 01:16:45,579 --> 01:16:46,763 Surviving? 1757 01:16:46,847 --> 01:16:48,181 I ain't too good. 1758 01:16:48,248 --> 01:16:50,767 Christmas around the corner gonna look ugly. 1759 01:16:50,851 --> 01:16:51,917 Yeah? 1760 01:16:51,969 --> 01:16:53,302 You should also make sure you get 1761 01:16:53,387 --> 01:16:54,637 a little, small legitimate gig. 1762 01:16:54,721 --> 01:16:55,855 I don't care what it pays 1763 01:16:55,922 --> 01:16:57,273 because... all right. 1764 01:16:57,357 --> 01:16:59,942 Well, hang on, hang on, just hear me out. 1765 01:17:00,027 --> 01:17:01,944 The thing is, I'm just afraid 1766 01:17:02,029 --> 01:17:04,096 that you go before a judge 1767 01:17:04,148 --> 01:17:05,698 and then they're gonna say, 1768 01:17:05,765 --> 01:17:08,267 "how are you getting your loot?" 1769 01:17:08,318 --> 01:17:10,119 All them kids, I ain't gonna be able 1770 01:17:10,204 --> 01:17:13,206 to take care of any kid with no $8.00, $7.00 an hour. 1771 01:17:13,273 --> 01:17:16,742 You know, you can do whatever you want in life, 1772 01:17:16,794 --> 01:17:18,127 but if you got all this stuff 1773 01:17:18,212 --> 01:17:19,412 hanging over your head, 1774 01:17:19,463 --> 01:17:21,998 you're gonna be shackled by the system. 1775 01:17:24,218 --> 01:17:26,803 Please, man, just do those little, small things 1776 01:17:26,887 --> 01:17:29,639 that I ask you to do, you know? 1777 01:17:29,723 --> 01:17:31,974 All right, so I'm out, man. 1778 01:17:32,059 --> 01:17:33,459 All right, bro. 1779 01:17:33,510 --> 01:17:34,644 See you later. 1780 01:17:34,728 --> 01:17:36,012 All right. 1781 01:17:39,650 --> 01:17:44,320 Hart: And it's just difficult because I know his fate. 1782 01:17:44,404 --> 01:17:46,939 I mean, it's the same we grew up with, 1783 01:17:46,990 --> 01:17:49,642 so it's these cycles. 1784 01:17:49,693 --> 01:17:51,994 You know, particularly in light of what I'm trying to do 1785 01:17:52,079 --> 01:17:56,249 with my life, it's just sad. 1786 01:17:56,316 --> 01:17:58,784 Ok, so about 35 million Americans 1787 01:17:58,836 --> 01:18:00,986 report using some illicit drug 1788 01:18:01,038 --> 01:18:04,990 in the past year, but there's this sort of general belief 1789 01:18:05,042 --> 01:18:07,009 that black people are using drugs 1790 01:18:07,094 --> 01:18:09,462 disproportionate to their numbers in the population. 1791 01:18:09,513 --> 01:18:13,049 I like to see empirical evidence be used 1792 01:18:13,133 --> 01:18:15,968 in our shaping of public policy. 1793 01:18:16,019 --> 01:18:20,556 Now, all of this was completely missed in the hysteria 1794 01:18:20,641 --> 01:18:24,193 in the mid-'80s and '90s about crack cocaine. 1795 01:18:24,278 --> 01:18:26,479 Narrator: After spending so much of his career studying drugs 1796 01:18:26,530 --> 01:18:28,364 and drug laws in the black community, 1797 01:18:28,448 --> 01:18:30,516 Carl's focus has turned to a new drug 1798 01:18:30,567 --> 01:18:32,702 and a new target for law enforcement. 1799 01:18:32,786 --> 01:18:35,488 There is a new drug epidemic in the United States. 1800 01:18:35,539 --> 01:18:38,991 Methamphetamines, or meth. Like crack in the 1980s, 1801 01:18:39,042 --> 01:18:43,212 meth is cheap, potent, and leads addicts to serious crimes. 1802 01:18:43,297 --> 01:18:45,915 Woman: All across America, we've got people 1803 01:18:45,999 --> 01:18:49,719 who are trying to lure children into using meth. 1804 01:18:49,803 --> 01:18:53,589 Hart: By the 1990s, we were seeing a similar phenomenon 1805 01:18:53,674 --> 01:18:56,959 with methamphetamine as we saw with crack cocaine. 1806 01:18:57,027 --> 01:18:58,947 The said meth would help me get through my exams. 1807 01:18:58,979 --> 01:19:01,681 Hart: But the people who are primarily associated 1808 01:19:01,732 --> 01:19:04,433 with methamphetamine use are poor white folks 1809 01:19:04,518 --> 01:19:05,818 in trailer parks. 1810 01:19:05,885 --> 01:19:07,770 Newscaster: A fully operational methamphetamine lab. 1811 01:19:07,854 --> 01:19:11,908 Hart: And also gay folks, 2 sort of despised groups. 1812 01:19:11,992 --> 01:19:13,192 We don't like that at all. 1813 01:19:13,243 --> 01:19:14,483 We can't stand people like that. 1814 01:19:14,528 --> 01:19:16,779 When we think about the country's response 1815 01:19:16,863 --> 01:19:18,281 to methamphetamine, 1816 01:19:18,365 --> 01:19:20,899 methamphetamine users have been vilified. 1817 01:19:20,951 --> 01:19:23,202 And the reason we have to recognize it 1818 01:19:23,253 --> 01:19:26,122 is so we can be careful or more critical 1819 01:19:26,206 --> 01:19:28,741 than we were with crack cocaine. 1820 01:19:28,792 --> 01:19:32,244 Iowa, Nebraska, Missouri, 1821 01:19:32,296 --> 01:19:35,681 this is the heartland of the methamphetamine problem. 1822 01:19:35,749 --> 01:19:39,251 How many of you are here on meth sentences then? 1823 01:19:39,303 --> 01:19:40,603 Wow. 1824 01:19:40,687 --> 01:19:43,306 Now, how many of you did I personally sentence? 1825 01:19:43,390 --> 01:19:45,891 [Snickering] 1826 01:19:45,943 --> 01:19:48,527 Man: For along time, 1827 01:19:48,595 --> 01:19:52,198 crack cocaine was the drug that was populating the prisons. 1828 01:19:52,265 --> 01:19:55,368 Methamphetamine, though, has rapidly caught up with it 1829 01:19:55,435 --> 01:19:57,436 and probably overtaken it. 1830 01:19:57,487 --> 01:20:00,990 Bennett: Today, the average person I sentence in a drug case 1831 01:20:01,074 --> 01:20:05,044 is a nonviolent blue collar worker 1832 01:20:05,111 --> 01:20:06,629 who lost their job 1833 01:20:06,713 --> 01:20:09,465 and then turned to manufactured methamphetamine 1834 01:20:09,549 --> 01:20:10,499 to support their habit. 1835 01:20:10,584 --> 01:20:13,919 And we treat them like they're kingpins. 1836 01:20:14,805 --> 01:20:16,955 [Guitar playing] 1837 01:20:20,761 --> 01:20:23,179 Narrator: With their rates of incarceration rising, 1838 01:20:23,263 --> 01:20:25,264 white inmates have started to received 1839 01:20:25,315 --> 01:20:29,068 the kind of harsh sentences that blacks have faced all along. 1840 01:20:30,437 --> 01:20:34,156 Hey, what's going, man? 1841 01:20:34,241 --> 01:20:39,862 � If I leave here tomorrow 1842 01:20:42,249 --> 01:20:46,652 � would you still remember me? 1843 01:20:46,703 --> 01:20:48,587 Man: My name's Kevin knott. 1844 01:20:48,655 --> 01:20:51,156 My number's 203093. 1845 01:20:51,208 --> 01:20:54,960 I'm in here for trafficking methamphetamine. 1846 01:20:55,012 --> 01:20:59,348 I start my 14th year in just a couple months, 1847 01:20:59,433 --> 01:21:02,018 and I will be here until I die. 1848 01:21:02,102 --> 01:21:07,673 Yeah. I have life without parole for 3 ounces of methamphetamine. 1849 01:21:07,724 --> 01:21:12,177 � 'Cause I'm as free as a bird now � 1850 01:21:14,865 --> 01:21:17,483 [humming] 1851 01:21:18,652 --> 01:21:19,735 Ha ha! 1852 01:21:19,820 --> 01:21:23,072 I can't remember it, man. It's been too long. 1853 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:35,668 Yep, I've... Up, but I don't think I should die for it. 1854 01:21:35,719 --> 01:21:38,537 I have life without parole, which means I'll stay in prison 1855 01:21:38,588 --> 01:21:39,972 until I die. 1856 01:21:40,039 --> 01:21:43,041 That's a death sentence in my opinion... 1857 01:21:43,093 --> 01:21:44,727 A slow death sentence... 1858 01:21:44,811 --> 01:21:49,181 That I have to wait until I die. 1859 01:21:49,232 --> 01:21:52,735 The reason I started with meth is 'cause I got laid off. 1860 01:21:52,819 --> 01:21:55,888 Somebody said, "here, try to sell some of this" 1861 01:21:55,939 --> 01:21:57,773 and get you a little extra money." 1862 01:21:57,858 --> 01:21:59,658 And then I started using it, 1863 01:21:59,726 --> 01:22:01,577 and then I had to sell it to pay for it. 1864 01:22:01,661 --> 01:22:03,829 Narrator: How much is 3 ounces of methamphetamine? 1865 01:22:03,897 --> 01:22:06,064 It will fit in a small envelope. 1866 01:22:07,250 --> 01:22:10,252 If you've been busted for 2 prior drug charges, 1867 01:22:10,337 --> 01:22:13,005 smoking pot or having pot or methamphet, 1868 01:22:13,072 --> 01:22:15,424 whatever it is, and then you get a trafficking charge, 1869 01:22:15,509 --> 01:22:16,830 they give you life without parole. 1870 01:22:16,843 --> 01:22:19,462 It's mandatory, life without parole. 1871 01:22:19,546 --> 01:22:22,915 Kevin has always been a good son. 1872 01:22:22,966 --> 01:22:24,016 That's Kevin. Ha ha! 1873 01:22:24,083 --> 01:22:25,050 You got to see this. 1874 01:22:25,102 --> 01:22:28,104 That same sweet little boy. 1875 01:22:28,188 --> 01:22:31,557 Kevin's father was drafted and was sent to Vietnam. 1876 01:22:31,608 --> 01:22:34,560 He looks very much like a boy, he was a boy. 1877 01:22:34,611 --> 01:22:38,564 He went to Vietnam and came home a very damaged boy. 1878 01:22:38,615 --> 01:22:43,953 He saw people that were maimed, injured, shot and killed, 1879 01:22:44,037 --> 01:22:46,288 and I think he became addicted to heroin 1880 01:22:46,373 --> 01:22:48,958 to help ease his personal pain. 1881 01:22:49,042 --> 01:22:53,379 After losing Kevin's dad, Kevin kind of stepped up 1882 01:22:53,446 --> 01:22:57,049 and felt like he was the man of the household. 1883 01:22:57,116 --> 01:23:00,669 Kevin: When I first came in, there was only a few of us, 1884 01:23:00,754 --> 01:23:03,556 5 or 6 at the most. 1885 01:23:03,623 --> 01:23:07,476 A couple years ago, I heard that there were 92 people 1886 01:23:07,561 --> 01:23:09,145 in the state of Oklahoma 1887 01:23:09,229 --> 01:23:11,296 that had life without parole for drugs. 1888 01:23:11,348 --> 01:23:13,632 And it just keeps growing. 1889 01:23:13,683 --> 01:23:15,484 Hey. Yeah? 1890 01:23:15,569 --> 01:23:16,569 You got a visitor. 1891 01:23:16,636 --> 01:23:17,770 All right. 1892 01:23:17,821 --> 01:23:19,638 I fought it, and it's over with. 1893 01:23:19,689 --> 01:23:22,641 It's been over with probably 9 years. 1894 01:23:22,692 --> 01:23:24,743 I took it all the way to the supreme court, 1895 01:23:24,811 --> 01:23:26,912 and they wouldn't hear it. 1896 01:23:26,980 --> 01:23:30,866 So... Here I am waiting for the law to change 1897 01:23:30,951 --> 01:23:33,869 or something, commutation from the governor, 1898 01:23:33,954 --> 01:23:36,255 I don't know. 1899 01:23:54,107 --> 01:23:56,058 The time I've been locked up, 1900 01:23:56,142 --> 01:23:59,195 my mother has lost 2 of her brothers, 1901 01:23:59,279 --> 01:24:04,066 1 of her brother's daughters directly related to drugs. 1902 01:24:05,735 --> 01:24:07,870 Hi, mom. Hi, honey. 1903 01:24:09,039 --> 01:24:11,123 And then my sister, my youngest sister, 1904 01:24:11,190 --> 01:24:13,075 8 years younger than me was coming to visit me in prison 1905 01:24:13,159 --> 01:24:16,879 at granite and died in a car wreck. 1906 01:24:16,963 --> 01:24:20,216 It's been pretty bad for my mom. 1907 01:24:23,503 --> 01:24:26,088 She's pretty strong. 1908 01:24:26,172 --> 01:24:29,058 Ogletree: Today people have to understand 1909 01:24:29,208 --> 01:24:32,811 that the drug war is actually a war on all Americans, 1910 01:24:32,879 --> 01:24:35,397 and I think people keep saying, "well, that's about them." 1911 01:24:35,482 --> 01:24:37,215 Well, no, it's about you. 1912 01:24:37,267 --> 01:24:40,152 No one ever imagined when they saw so many African Americans 1913 01:24:40,219 --> 01:24:42,238 getting locked up, getting long sentences 1914 01:24:42,322 --> 01:24:44,723 that is would apply beyond the black community. 1915 01:24:44,774 --> 01:24:46,191 But it does. 1916 01:24:46,243 --> 01:24:48,327 Newscaster: Unemployment at 9%, 1917 01:24:48,394 --> 01:24:51,947 America is struggling through the worst recession since... 1918 01:24:52,032 --> 01:24:53,449 Different newscaster: No prospects of an immediate end 1919 01:24:53,533 --> 01:24:54,667 to the recession. 1920 01:24:54,734 --> 01:24:55,801 Different newscaster: Thousands of people, 1921 01:24:55,869 --> 01:24:58,070 jobless and hopeless look for a way out 1922 01:24:58,138 --> 01:25:00,256 and find trouble instead. 1923 01:25:00,340 --> 01:25:03,575 Before I got hooked on drugs, I looked down on drug addicts, 1924 01:25:03,643 --> 01:25:06,545 and then I became one. 1925 01:25:06,613 --> 01:25:08,814 Oftentimes we hate what we fear, 1926 01:25:08,882 --> 01:25:11,517 like this guy here, he was a drug dealer, 1927 01:25:11,584 --> 01:25:13,218 so I would look down upon him, too. 1928 01:25:13,270 --> 01:25:16,755 And I turned into a drug addict, a drug dealer. 1929 01:25:16,806 --> 01:25:18,390 Simon: You know, a funny thing happened 1930 01:25:18,441 --> 01:25:20,442 on the way to the 21st century, 1931 01:25:20,527 --> 01:25:23,145 which is that we shrugged off so much of our manufacturing base, 1932 01:25:23,229 --> 01:25:25,430 so much of our need for organized labor, 1933 01:25:25,482 --> 01:25:28,266 for a legitimate union wage, for union benefits, 1934 01:25:28,318 --> 01:25:30,903 for the types of jobs on which you could raise a family 1935 01:25:30,954 --> 01:25:32,121 and be a meaningful citizen. 1936 01:25:32,205 --> 01:25:34,606 We got rid of so much of that that, oops, 1937 01:25:34,658 --> 01:25:37,275 we marginalized a lot of white people. 1938 01:25:37,327 --> 01:25:39,611 Newscaster: 1 in every 8 Americans has had to visit 1939 01:25:39,663 --> 01:25:41,213 a food bank over the last year. 1940 01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,132 Simon: And lo and behold, 1941 01:25:43,216 --> 01:25:44,667 white people, when they're marginalized, 1942 01:25:44,751 --> 01:25:48,120 when they are denied meaning or they are denied meaningful work, 1943 01:25:48,171 --> 01:25:50,222 they become drug addicts, too. 1944 01:25:50,289 --> 01:25:52,409 And they become involved in the methamphetamine trade, 1945 01:25:52,425 --> 01:25:54,093 and they start turning themselves over 1946 01:25:54,144 --> 01:25:55,177 to the underground economies 1947 01:25:55,261 --> 01:25:56,795 that are the only ones there to accept them. 1948 01:25:56,846 --> 01:26:00,316 Capitalism is fairly colorblind in the end. 1949 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,301 Our economic engine, when it doesn't need somebody, 1950 01:26:03,353 --> 01:26:04,603 it doesn't need somebody 1951 01:26:04,671 --> 01:26:05,988 and it doesn't give a damn who you are. 1952 01:26:06,072 --> 01:26:09,024 White people found out a little bit later than black folk, 1953 01:26:09,109 --> 01:26:11,276 but they found it out. 1954 01:26:16,983 --> 01:26:18,450 Narrator: After hearing so much 1955 01:26:18,501 --> 01:26:19,835 about the failure of the drug war 1956 01:26:19,919 --> 01:26:21,620 and the enormous harm it does, 1957 01:26:21,671 --> 01:26:24,006 I wanted to better understand what drives it. 1958 01:26:24,090 --> 01:26:25,541 Far from the frontlines of the war, 1959 01:26:25,625 --> 01:26:28,493 I discovered a vast and less visible world of people 1960 01:26:28,545 --> 01:26:30,629 who I their own ways play a part. 1961 01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,598 This chair in comparison 1962 01:26:32,665 --> 01:26:35,467 to other types of restraint chairs 1963 01:26:35,518 --> 01:26:36,852 is the most humane. 1964 01:26:36,936 --> 01:26:39,271 The person in the chair can breathe very easily 1965 01:26:39,338 --> 01:26:41,106 and it's not restrictive. 1966 01:26:41,174 --> 01:26:43,559 [Indistinct yelling] 1967 01:26:45,145 --> 01:26:46,845 There it is. 1968 01:26:46,896 --> 01:26:48,564 Ha ha! 1969 01:26:48,648 --> 01:26:52,451 The war on drugs has to be a war at every level. 1970 01:26:52,518 --> 01:26:55,788 It has to be a war on the streets of the cities. 1971 01:26:55,855 --> 01:26:58,240 It has to be a war at the state level. 1972 01:26:58,324 --> 01:27:00,125 And it has to be a war at the federal level. 1973 01:27:00,193 --> 01:27:02,360 It's just like fighting the war on terrorism. 1974 01:27:02,412 --> 01:27:03,879 Man: Before in the prisons, 1975 01:27:03,963 --> 01:27:07,499 I guess the only choice was you could get a torah or a Bible. 1976 01:27:07,550 --> 01:27:09,051 Things have changed now. 1977 01:27:09,135 --> 01:27:11,203 Anybody want their free copy? 1978 01:27:12,806 --> 01:27:15,424 All sorts of people start to get a vested interest, 1979 01:27:15,508 --> 01:27:18,093 a financial interest in keeping the system going. 1980 01:27:18,178 --> 01:27:19,395 Woman: Well, we're in the business 1981 01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,096 of supplying corrections with products. 1982 01:27:21,181 --> 01:27:22,648 It's a growing market, prisons. 1983 01:27:22,715 --> 01:27:26,218 There's a lot of prisoners in the United States. 1984 01:27:27,887 --> 01:27:30,072 That's what I mean by... 1985 01:27:30,156 --> 01:27:32,608 now you've got me feeling awkward because of the camera. 1986 01:27:32,692 --> 01:27:34,026 Put it down. 1987 01:27:34,077 --> 01:27:35,744 Man: This company, cca, 1988 01:27:35,829 --> 01:27:38,163 we are the leader and the largest in the world 1989 01:27:38,231 --> 01:27:40,332 as far as private prisons and jails. 1990 01:27:40,399 --> 01:27:41,417 We are profitable. 1991 01:27:41,501 --> 01:27:43,585 We're highly rated in the stock market. 1992 01:27:43,670 --> 01:27:47,423 It hones our ability to it less expensively 1993 01:27:47,507 --> 01:27:49,958 because we have to earn a profit. 1994 01:27:50,043 --> 01:27:52,511 There's a whole range of corporations, 1995 01:27:52,578 --> 01:27:54,263 the taser gun manufacturers, 1996 01:27:54,347 --> 01:27:56,248 private healthcare providers, 1997 01:27:56,299 --> 01:27:59,017 phone companies, whole communities 1998 01:27:59,085 --> 01:28:03,255 that now depend on prisons as their primary employer, 1999 01:28:03,306 --> 01:28:06,591 now, deeply invested in the drug war 2000 01:28:06,643 --> 01:28:09,394 and the system of mass incarceration. 2001 01:28:09,446 --> 01:28:11,113 Miller: And all these people 2002 01:28:11,197 --> 01:28:12,364 are not trying to do anything wrong. 2003 01:28:12,415 --> 01:28:13,899 They're trying to make society better. 2004 01:28:13,950 --> 01:28:15,834 But their actions combined together 2005 01:28:15,902 --> 01:28:17,419 become part of the thrust 2006 01:28:17,504 --> 01:28:18,754 that makes the bad parts of the drug war 2007 01:28:18,838 --> 01:28:21,757 more feasible and more practical. 2008 01:28:21,841 --> 01:28:22,925 The thing with the war on drugs is 2009 01:28:23,009 --> 01:28:24,370 and the question we have to ask is, 2010 01:28:24,377 --> 01:28:25,744 not why is it a failure, 2011 01:28:25,795 --> 01:28:27,555 but why, given that it seems to be a failure, 2012 01:28:27,597 --> 01:28:29,348 why is it persistent? 2013 01:28:29,415 --> 01:28:32,751 And I'm beginning to think, maybe it's a success. 2014 01:28:32,802 --> 01:28:36,138 What if it's a success by keeping police forces busy? 2015 01:28:36,222 --> 01:28:39,424 What if it's a success by keeping private jails thriving? 2016 01:28:39,476 --> 01:28:42,227 What if it's a success keeping a legal establishment 2017 01:28:42,278 --> 01:28:44,763 justified in its self-generated activity? 2018 01:28:44,814 --> 01:28:47,149 Maybe it's a success on different terms, 2019 01:28:47,233 --> 01:28:49,134 than the publicly stated ones. 2020 01:28:49,202 --> 01:28:50,953 Narrator: Perhaps not surprisingly 2021 01:28:51,037 --> 01:28:53,939 it was people on the inside who turned out to be most aware 2022 01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:56,291 of the dangerous pressures that outside forces 2023 01:28:56,376 --> 01:28:58,677 exert on the system. 2024 01:28:59,829 --> 01:29:01,630 Carpenter: My job is to keep the people inside 2025 01:29:01,631 --> 01:29:04,716 who are supposed to be inside, and I'm gonna do my job. 2026 01:29:04,784 --> 01:29:06,552 But as I've come along in corrections 2027 01:29:06,619 --> 01:29:08,086 over the last 20 years, 2028 01:29:08,137 --> 01:29:10,472 I've just kind of watched it grow into this thing. 2029 01:29:10,557 --> 01:29:12,975 I mean, it's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy. 2030 01:29:13,059 --> 01:29:14,626 You build a bed, they fill the bed. 2031 01:29:14,677 --> 01:29:17,462 They start sucking in money at an astronomical rate, 2032 01:29:17,514 --> 01:29:20,983 and it just grows and grows and grows of its own accord. 2033 01:29:21,067 --> 01:29:22,467 You almost can't stop it. 2034 01:29:22,519 --> 01:29:24,152 You can't afford to stop it. 2035 01:29:24,237 --> 01:29:26,655 And so now you start talking about, 2036 01:29:26,739 --> 01:29:29,191 well, you know, we can cut some corners and we can reduce. 2037 01:29:29,275 --> 01:29:32,110 What about if we reduce by closing that facility? 2038 01:29:32,161 --> 01:29:34,663 Newscaster: Employees are hoping the governor will reconsider 2039 01:29:34,747 --> 01:29:36,415 his plan to close the prison. 2040 01:29:36,482 --> 01:29:37,666 Carpenter: Well, wait a minute. You can't do that. 2041 01:29:37,750 --> 01:29:39,952 My community will dry up and blow away. 2042 01:29:40,003 --> 01:29:42,838 The private prisons, they actually go to a town and say, 2043 01:29:42,922 --> 01:29:44,623 if you'll use your tax money 2044 01:29:44,674 --> 01:29:46,542 to buy the land and build the facility, 2045 01:29:46,626 --> 01:29:48,293 we'll rent it from you, and you'll get rich, 2046 01:29:48,344 --> 01:29:50,829 and we'll get rich, and we'll all be rich together. 2047 01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,765 Well, that only works if there's prisoners in the beds. 2048 01:29:53,833 --> 01:29:56,685 So now you're starting to find people that fit the criteria, 2049 01:29:56,769 --> 01:29:59,471 now you actually can pay people to go out and look for people 2050 01:29:59,522 --> 01:30:02,507 that fit the criteria, and now it's gonna grow faster. 2051 01:30:02,559 --> 01:30:04,560 You can't let that town fail, 2052 01:30:04,644 --> 01:30:09,114 so you can't change the way you think about locking people up. 2053 01:30:09,181 --> 01:30:11,199 Narrator: So you need a new enemy. 2054 01:30:11,284 --> 01:30:14,202 It's the same enemy, you just need more of 'em. 2055 01:30:17,457 --> 01:30:19,825 Narrator: Though my journey had begun with a simple question 2056 01:30:19,876 --> 01:30:21,710 about 1 person's life, 2057 01:30:21,794 --> 01:30:24,296 it was forcing me to confront unsettling realities 2058 01:30:24,363 --> 01:30:25,914 facing the country. 2059 01:30:25,999 --> 01:30:28,366 And yet the full weight of the situation 2060 01:30:28,418 --> 01:30:29,918 had still not been revealed to me 2061 01:30:30,003 --> 01:30:31,970 in its darkest historical terms. 2062 01:30:32,038 --> 01:30:34,673 Simon: Say it this way 'cause it's more honest. 2063 01:30:34,724 --> 01:30:37,208 Instead of saying let's get rid of all these drug addicts 2064 01:30:37,260 --> 01:30:38,510 and drug dealers, 2065 01:30:38,561 --> 01:30:41,063 and once we throw away the key on them, 2066 01:30:41,147 --> 01:30:43,065 we'll solve this problem. 2067 01:30:43,149 --> 01:30:45,017 Why don't you try saying it to yourself this way. 2068 01:30:45,068 --> 01:30:47,152 All these Americans that we don't need anymore, 2069 01:30:47,219 --> 01:30:49,988 the factories are closed, we don't need them, 2070 01:30:50,056 --> 01:30:52,157 you know, the textile mills are gone, 2071 01:30:52,224 --> 01:30:54,893 gm is closing plants, we don't need these people. 2072 01:30:54,944 --> 01:30:57,412 You're extra Americans. We don't need 'em. 2073 01:30:57,497 --> 01:30:59,397 Let's just get rid of the bottom 15% of the country. 2074 01:30:59,449 --> 01:31:00,866 Let's lock 'em up. 2075 01:31:00,917 --> 01:31:02,834 In fact, let's see if we can make money off locking them up 2076 01:31:02,902 --> 01:31:05,120 in the short term even though it's gonna be 2077 01:31:05,204 --> 01:31:06,644 an incredible burden for our society, 2078 01:31:06,673 --> 01:31:09,091 even though it's gonna destroy these families, 2079 01:31:09,175 --> 01:31:11,043 you know, where these people are probably integral 2080 01:31:11,094 --> 01:31:14,379 to the lives of other Americans, let's just get rid of them, 2081 01:31:14,430 --> 01:31:15,681 you know? 2082 01:31:15,748 --> 01:31:17,516 And at that point, why don't you just say kill the poor? 2083 01:31:17,583 --> 01:31:20,135 If we kill the poor, we're gonna be a lot better off, 2084 01:31:20,219 --> 01:31:23,805 because that's what the drug war has become. 2085 01:31:29,261 --> 01:31:31,980 Miller: My father was a war crimes investigator 2086 01:31:32,065 --> 01:31:33,732 in Europe after world war ii. 2087 01:31:33,783 --> 01:31:36,735 And we often talked about his experiences. 2088 01:31:38,938 --> 01:31:42,574 I was reading the work of Raul hilberg, 2089 01:31:42,625 --> 01:31:44,505 who wrote about the destruction of European Jews 2090 01:31:44,577 --> 01:31:45,961 and the holocaust. 2091 01:31:46,045 --> 01:31:50,716 We've long known that the process of destruction 2092 01:31:50,783 --> 01:31:54,419 was an undertaking step by step. 2093 01:31:54,470 --> 01:31:57,923 Miller: I realized that there was a chain of destruction, 2094 01:31:57,974 --> 01:32:00,809 that what he was talking about could be expressed 2095 01:32:00,893 --> 01:32:04,646 by links in a chain around the world 2096 01:32:04,731 --> 01:32:07,099 in more than 1 society. 2097 01:32:07,150 --> 01:32:09,067 People do the same things again and again, 2098 01:32:09,135 --> 01:32:13,689 decade after decade, century after century. 2099 01:32:15,024 --> 01:32:17,976 Now, this chain of destruction begins with the phase 2100 01:32:18,027 --> 01:32:20,278 we can call identification, 2101 01:32:20,329 --> 01:32:24,583 in which a group of people is identified as a cause 2102 01:32:24,650 --> 01:32:26,835 for problems of society. 2103 01:32:26,919 --> 01:32:29,121 People start to perceive their fellow citizens 2104 01:32:29,172 --> 01:32:31,456 as bad or evil. 2105 01:32:31,507 --> 01:32:32,958 They used to be worthwhile people, 2106 01:32:33,009 --> 01:32:34,492 but now all of a sudden for some reason, 2107 01:32:34,544 --> 01:32:36,712 their lives are worthless. 2108 01:32:36,796 --> 01:32:40,799 The second link in the chain of destruction is ostracism, 2109 01:32:40,850 --> 01:32:43,001 by which we learn how to hate these people, 2110 01:32:43,052 --> 01:32:44,669 how to take their jobs away, 2111 01:32:44,721 --> 01:32:46,888 how to make it harder for them to survive. 2112 01:32:46,973 --> 01:32:48,724 People lose their place to live. 2113 01:32:48,808 --> 01:32:50,559 Often they're forced into ghettoes, 2114 01:32:50,643 --> 01:32:52,144 where they're physically isolated, 2115 01:32:52,195 --> 01:32:55,280 separate from the rest of society. 2116 01:32:55,347 --> 01:32:57,816 The third link is confiscation. 2117 01:32:57,867 --> 01:33:00,619 People lose their rights, civil liberties. 2118 01:33:00,686 --> 01:33:03,739 The laws themselves change so it's made easier 2119 01:33:03,823 --> 01:33:05,373 for people to be stopped on the street, 2120 01:33:05,458 --> 01:33:06,825 patted down, searched, 2121 01:33:06,876 --> 01:33:09,077 and for their property to be confiscated. 2122 01:33:09,162 --> 01:33:11,880 Now, once you start taking people's property away, 2123 01:33:11,964 --> 01:33:14,666 you can start taking the people themselves away. 2124 01:33:14,717 --> 01:33:17,702 And the fourth link is concentration. 2125 01:33:17,754 --> 01:33:21,506 Concentrate them into facilities such as prisons, camps. 2126 01:33:21,557 --> 01:33:22,891 People lose their rights. 2127 01:33:22,975 --> 01:33:25,543 They can't vote anymore, have children anymore. 2128 01:33:25,595 --> 01:33:29,731 Often their labor is exploited in a very systematic form. 2129 01:33:29,816 --> 01:33:32,100 And the final link in the chain of destruction 2130 01:33:32,185 --> 01:33:33,602 is annihilation. 2131 01:33:33,686 --> 01:33:35,654 Now, this might be indirect 2132 01:33:35,721 --> 01:33:38,323 by, say, withholding medical care, 2133 01:33:38,390 --> 01:33:41,726 withholding food, preventing further births. 2134 01:33:41,778 --> 01:33:43,945 Or it might be direct where death is inflicted, 2135 01:33:44,030 --> 01:33:46,498 where people are deliberately killed. 2136 01:33:46,565 --> 01:33:49,334 These steps tend to happen of their own momentum, 2137 01:33:49,401 --> 01:33:52,537 without anybody forcing them to happen. 2138 01:33:54,573 --> 01:33:58,710 I think a lot of people would be disturbed and outraged 2139 01:33:58,761 --> 01:34:01,079 by the thought that any part of this process 2140 01:34:01,130 --> 01:34:03,348 could be going on in America. 2141 01:34:04,884 --> 01:34:07,102 But it wasn't until I began studying the drug war 2142 01:34:07,186 --> 01:34:10,806 that I realized that some of these same steps were happening. 2143 01:34:10,890 --> 01:34:13,225 For instance, identification. 2144 01:34:13,276 --> 01:34:15,811 All of us agree that the greatest domestic threat 2145 01:34:15,895 --> 01:34:18,196 facing our nation today is drugs. 2146 01:34:18,264 --> 01:34:20,232 Bowden: The way to take a problem 2147 01:34:20,283 --> 01:34:21,566 and make it a huge problem 2148 01:34:21,617 --> 01:34:24,653 is first you ask the wrong question, 2149 01:34:24,737 --> 01:34:26,621 and then you feed us the wrong answer. 2150 01:34:26,706 --> 01:34:28,623 Bush: Who's responsible? 2151 01:34:28,708 --> 01:34:30,659 Let me tell you straight out... 2152 01:34:30,743 --> 01:34:35,380 everyone who uses drugs, everyone who sells drugs, 2153 01:34:35,447 --> 01:34:38,166 and everyone who looks the other way. 2154 01:34:38,251 --> 01:34:40,836 Bien: You identify people, their characteristics, 2155 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:43,588 you make them other using fear mongering, 2156 01:34:43,639 --> 01:34:46,591 as if they're the cause of our problems. 2157 01:34:46,642 --> 01:34:48,643 These people are killing our kids. 2158 01:34:48,728 --> 01:34:51,847 These people are disrupting society. 2159 01:34:51,931 --> 01:34:54,649 These people are wrecking our society. 2160 01:34:54,734 --> 01:34:56,151 Miller: Secondly, ostracism. 2161 01:34:56,235 --> 01:34:59,771 Society learns to hate drug users. 2162 01:34:59,839 --> 01:35:03,642 If you are a casual drug user, you are an accomplice to murder. 2163 01:35:03,709 --> 01:35:05,043 [Applause] 2164 01:35:05,111 --> 01:35:08,179 You apply special laws to them that don't apply to others. 2165 01:35:08,247 --> 01:35:09,497 Miller: Now all of a sudden these people 2166 01:35:09,582 --> 01:35:12,317 who have previously just been identified as drug users 2167 01:35:12,368 --> 01:35:13,835 become criminals. 2168 01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:15,120 Bill Clinton: If you break the law, 2169 01:35:15,171 --> 01:35:18,173 you no longer have a home in public housing. 2170 01:35:18,257 --> 01:35:20,491 Kaufman: The ultimate effect is isolation, 2171 01:35:20,543 --> 01:35:22,711 being cut off from mainstream society. 2172 01:35:22,795 --> 01:35:24,555 Carpenter: We start it out, we identify them, 2173 01:35:24,597 --> 01:35:27,182 we figure out who they are, then we start making laws 2174 01:35:27,266 --> 01:35:29,217 to prevent them from being around our children. 2175 01:35:29,302 --> 01:35:32,020 You push them out of the places where they may be successful, 2176 01:35:32,104 --> 01:35:34,105 and so where do they go? 2177 01:35:34,173 --> 01:35:36,725 Simon: The area of the last opposition, 2178 01:35:36,809 --> 01:35:38,810 the modern American ghetto. 2179 01:35:38,861 --> 01:35:41,897 We manage to isolate the poor economically. 2180 01:35:41,981 --> 01:35:43,315 Carpenter: You force them out of the place 2181 01:35:43,366 --> 01:35:46,351 where they could live and work and possibly be successful, 2182 01:35:46,402 --> 01:35:50,572 and now you make them... you make them criminals. 2183 01:35:50,656 --> 01:35:53,241 Simon: So once the economics has done its business, 2184 01:35:53,326 --> 01:35:55,127 then you can add different levels of policing. 2185 01:35:55,194 --> 01:35:56,878 You can change the rules. 2186 01:35:56,963 --> 01:35:58,363 You're under arrest. 2187 01:35:58,414 --> 01:35:59,364 For what? 2188 01:35:59,415 --> 01:36:00,496 You've got a bench warrant. 2189 01:36:00,532 --> 01:36:01,716 Probably for drugs. 2190 01:36:01,801 --> 01:36:03,802 Woman: Hey, guys, you know the program. 2191 01:36:03,869 --> 01:36:05,337 Get your hands up, turn around. 2192 01:36:05,388 --> 01:36:08,539 Miller: Confiscation. Any property they find on you 2193 01:36:08,591 --> 01:36:09,758 can be subjected to civil forfeiture. 2194 01:36:09,842 --> 01:36:12,344 That money's ours now. That's my money now. 2195 01:36:12,395 --> 01:36:13,795 Newscaster: Federal and local police 2196 01:36:13,813 --> 01:36:16,231 seized these vehicles after their occupants 2197 01:36:16,315 --> 01:36:18,767 allegedly purchased cocaine and other drugs. 2198 01:36:18,851 --> 01:36:20,852 Miller: If we're seizing their property, 2199 01:36:20,903 --> 01:36:24,489 it's really a simple next step to seizing their persons. 2200 01:36:24,556 --> 01:36:25,991 Newscaster: Holloway was arrested on charges 2201 01:36:26,058 --> 01:36:27,359 of resisting arrest 2202 01:36:27,410 --> 01:36:29,945 and wandering with the intent to buy drugs. 2203 01:36:30,029 --> 01:36:31,562 Alexander: In the drug war, 2204 01:36:31,614 --> 01:36:33,094 there's more that's being confiscated. 2205 01:36:33,115 --> 01:36:38,370 What's being taken from them is all hope in a future. 2206 01:36:38,421 --> 01:36:40,288 Woman: What y'all getting him for? 2207 01:36:40,373 --> 01:36:42,407 Don't worry. We caught him with narcotics. 2208 01:36:42,458 --> 01:36:45,743 With the drug war, we've gone as far as the concentration phase. 2209 01:36:45,795 --> 01:36:48,129 Bowden: My government says we're fighting a heroic war 2210 01:36:48,214 --> 01:36:52,100 against drugs and a war against people who use drugs. 2211 01:36:52,184 --> 01:36:53,718 And frankly a lot of them 2212 01:36:53,769 --> 01:36:55,220 are just going to have to be locked up. 2213 01:36:55,271 --> 01:36:58,256 Bien: Extraordinary numbers of people are in prison 2214 01:36:58,307 --> 01:36:59,757 because of drugs, 2215 01:36:59,809 --> 01:37:02,310 yet it is not a place to get drug treatment. 2216 01:37:02,395 --> 01:37:04,562 They come out, and then we're surprised 2217 01:37:04,613 --> 01:37:06,314 that we have the highest recidivism rates, 2218 01:37:06,399 --> 01:37:09,617 and that results in this cycle of incarceration 2219 01:37:09,702 --> 01:37:11,286 and overcrowding. 2220 01:37:11,370 --> 01:37:13,822 Kaufman: This concentration of people, 2221 01:37:13,906 --> 01:37:16,074 whether it's in inner city ghettos 2222 01:37:16,142 --> 01:37:20,662 or in prisons, creates a culture of hopelessness 2223 01:37:20,746 --> 01:37:22,747 that is incredibly corrosive. 2224 01:37:22,798 --> 01:37:24,799 When they don't have any prospects, 2225 01:37:24,884 --> 01:37:26,051 people turn to drugs. 2226 01:37:26,118 --> 01:37:28,619 And then we'll pursue them and we'll be able to hire 2227 01:37:28,671 --> 01:37:30,672 a bunch of prison guards and parole officers 2228 01:37:30,756 --> 01:37:34,059 and narcotics detectives and drug treatment people. 2229 01:37:34,126 --> 01:37:37,312 In the short term, some people have jobs. 2230 01:37:37,396 --> 01:37:39,630 Miller: Annihilation. 2231 01:37:39,682 --> 01:37:43,518 That's not happening with the drug war in this country. 2232 01:37:43,602 --> 01:37:45,687 But there are subtle but real ways 2233 01:37:45,771 --> 01:37:48,306 that don't involve indiscriminant mass killings, 2234 01:37:48,357 --> 01:37:49,974 such as preventing births. 2235 01:37:50,026 --> 01:37:52,577 Man: $200 cash payments to women addicted to crack 2236 01:37:52,644 --> 01:37:54,529 to be sterilized. 2237 01:37:54,613 --> 01:37:55,813 Violence in prisons. 2238 01:37:55,865 --> 01:37:57,982 Newscaster: Severe overcrowding sparked jailhouse riots. 2239 01:37:58,034 --> 01:38:00,118 Different newscaster: 27 inmates died yesterday. 2240 01:38:00,169 --> 01:38:02,320 Miller: People swept up in drug war violence. 2241 01:38:02,371 --> 01:38:05,173 Newscaster: 140 drug killings this year. 2242 01:38:05,257 --> 01:38:06,591 Different newscaster: An Iraqi war veteran was killed 2243 01:38:06,658 --> 01:38:09,928 after SWAT team officers stormed his Tucson, Arizona, home 2244 01:38:09,995 --> 01:38:12,130 in a drug raid that turned up no drugs. 2245 01:38:12,181 --> 01:38:14,549 Miller: Now it's important to remember or to realize 2246 01:38:14,633 --> 01:38:17,218 it isn't that the war on drug users is the same 2247 01:38:17,303 --> 01:38:19,304 as what happened in other societies, 2248 01:38:19,355 --> 01:38:22,507 but that both are wars on ordinary people, 2249 01:38:22,558 --> 01:38:24,142 people who are just like us. 2250 01:38:24,193 --> 01:38:26,528 Carpenter: You've got to have an enemy for everything. 2251 01:38:26,612 --> 01:38:31,032 The way that Germany in the '30s rebuilt their infrastructure, 2252 01:38:31,117 --> 01:38:35,787 rebuilt their industries and rebuilt their pride, 2253 01:38:35,854 --> 01:38:40,575 their nationalism was by saying that these people, 2254 01:38:40,659 --> 01:38:42,860 this group of people is the cause of all of our woe, 2255 01:38:42,912 --> 01:38:46,131 and if we hate them, we'll be better off. 2256 01:38:46,198 --> 01:38:48,967 Narrator: Or not doing it at all. 2257 01:38:49,034 --> 01:38:50,752 I don't think it's to that extreme, 2258 01:38:50,836 --> 01:38:53,805 but we do say those people are bad for us, 2259 01:38:53,872 --> 01:38:57,041 and if we hate them, our lives will be better. 2260 01:38:57,093 --> 01:39:01,012 So everybody's got to have an enemy. 2261 01:39:13,559 --> 01:39:16,227 The drug war is a holocaust in slow motion. 2262 01:39:16,278 --> 01:39:20,782 And it's not somebody arguing racial superiority 2263 01:39:20,866 --> 01:39:25,453 or arguing for the destruction of a given race or religion. 2264 01:39:25,538 --> 01:39:27,338 That doesn't exist. 2265 01:39:27,406 --> 01:39:29,874 Let's be honest about what was unique to the holocaust. 2266 01:39:29,925 --> 01:39:35,096 But... There is an incredible destruction of human life 2267 01:39:35,181 --> 01:39:39,750 that is class-fixed, not race-fixed, but class-fixed 2268 01:39:39,802 --> 01:39:42,520 that is going on and is going on under the guise 2269 01:39:42,588 --> 01:39:45,190 of a war against illegal narcotics. 2270 01:39:45,257 --> 01:39:50,311 [Radio playing indistinctly] 2271 01:39:50,396 --> 01:39:52,280 The first time seeing her, right? 2272 01:39:52,364 --> 01:39:56,401 They don't even know who... 2273 01:39:56,452 --> 01:39:58,953 Johnson: I mean, I know they want people to learn a lesson, 2274 01:39:59,038 --> 01:40:00,788 but to be honest, all of this time 2275 01:40:00,873 --> 01:40:03,625 is not really helping anybody, 2276 01:40:03,709 --> 01:40:05,276 especially my daughter. 2277 01:40:05,327 --> 01:40:07,778 All it's doing is making her grow up like me, 2278 01:40:07,830 --> 01:40:12,083 like the cycle is just continuing, you know? 2279 01:40:12,134 --> 01:40:14,669 That was a letter that was written by your aunt. 2280 01:40:14,753 --> 01:40:16,304 She wrote it to the judge. 2281 01:40:16,388 --> 01:40:19,224 I ain't never read it, man. 2282 01:40:19,291 --> 01:40:21,176 "Dear judge Bennett, I just wanted you to know 2283 01:40:21,260 --> 01:40:23,061 "a little bit about Maurice. 2284 01:40:23,128 --> 01:40:25,897 "When he was 6 months old, his father was murdered. 2285 01:40:25,964 --> 01:40:27,682 "That was a sad day. 2286 01:40:27,766 --> 01:40:29,400 "My sister then began using drugs, 2287 01:40:29,468 --> 01:40:32,403 and soon after our young kid's lives..." 2288 01:40:32,471 --> 01:40:34,739 Correia: All the years I spent in narcotics, 2289 01:40:34,806 --> 01:40:38,193 I didn't go out there every day and say, 2290 01:40:38,277 --> 01:40:40,912 "hell, let's inflict some harm on the community." 2291 01:40:40,979 --> 01:40:43,998 I think, you know, an unintended consequence was that, 2292 01:40:44,083 --> 01:40:48,319 yeah, we probably did, you know, we probably did inflict harm. 2293 01:40:48,370 --> 01:40:50,821 Man: 2 young kids with the mother. 2294 01:40:54,826 --> 01:40:57,795 Chism: Kevin has been locked up 13 years. 2295 01:40:57,846 --> 01:41:02,433 So now we write letters and we call and we email 2296 01:41:02,501 --> 01:41:06,638 and just with the prayer that somebody will hear us 2297 01:41:06,689 --> 01:41:10,141 because our day will come, and I believe it will come. 2298 01:41:10,192 --> 01:41:13,194 I don't think my son is gonna die in prison. 2299 01:41:15,948 --> 01:41:23,154 Walking away and leaving him is the hardest thing that I do. 2300 01:41:23,205 --> 01:41:25,373 Carpenter: I don't know what the solution is. 2301 01:41:25,457 --> 01:41:27,242 But I know that the solution can't be more 2302 01:41:27,326 --> 01:41:29,410 of what's got us to this spot. 2303 01:41:29,495 --> 01:41:32,497 It can't be more of the same. 2304 01:41:32,548 --> 01:41:34,632 Mate: America's drug problem, 2305 01:41:34,700 --> 01:41:36,584 a result of hundreds of years of history, 2306 01:41:36,669 --> 01:41:41,172 economic policy, social policy, and misunderstanding. 2307 01:41:41,223 --> 01:41:43,675 So let's not make the most visible manifestation of it, 2308 01:41:43,726 --> 01:41:46,394 that is to say people being out there in the street and using 2309 01:41:46,478 --> 01:41:48,012 the problem. 2310 01:41:48,063 --> 01:41:49,430 It's not the problem. 2311 01:41:49,515 --> 01:41:50,898 It's simply a manifestation of our problem. 2312 01:41:50,983 --> 01:41:52,483 It's simply a symptom. 2313 01:41:52,551 --> 01:41:54,018 It's sort of like saying that the problem with pneumonia 2314 01:41:54,069 --> 01:41:55,603 is that you cough. 2315 01:41:55,688 --> 01:41:58,055 Let's suppress the cough and that's ok. 2316 01:41:58,107 --> 01:41:59,490 Well, you can suppress the cough. 2317 01:41:59,558 --> 01:42:01,943 That lung will still be inflamed. 2318 01:42:02,027 --> 01:42:05,663 And that lung tissue is still being damaged. 2319 01:42:05,731 --> 01:42:07,999 You got to deal with the whole picture. 2320 01:42:09,201 --> 01:42:10,901 Narrator: After 40 years of incalculable 2321 01:42:10,953 --> 01:42:12,787 human and economic cost, 2322 01:42:12,871 --> 01:42:15,340 it's hard to imagine how something so deeply rooted 2323 01:42:15,407 --> 01:42:17,792 in American life can possibly be changed. 2324 01:42:17,876 --> 01:42:20,712 Man: Mr. chair, we find ourselves as a nation 2325 01:42:20,763 --> 01:42:24,265 in the midst of a profound, deeply corrosive crisis 2326 01:42:24,350 --> 01:42:28,386 that we have largely been ignoring at our peril. 2327 01:42:28,437 --> 01:42:30,421 Narrator: But at many levels across the country, 2328 01:42:30,472 --> 01:42:32,440 there are people trying to change things. 2329 01:42:32,524 --> 01:42:33,858 Man: After 30 years, 2330 01:42:33,925 --> 01:42:35,727 all of my colleagues who are afraid for the politics, 2331 01:42:35,778 --> 01:42:37,528 we have to go a different way. 2332 01:42:37,596 --> 01:42:40,114 Ogletree: You have never had so many people on the same side 2333 01:42:40,199 --> 01:42:42,066 of this issue because we fought a war. 2334 01:42:42,117 --> 01:42:43,100 We've been unsuccessful. 2335 01:42:43,152 --> 01:42:44,952 Man: Let's return to the focus 2336 01:42:45,037 --> 01:42:46,604 on prevention of crime. 2337 01:42:46,655 --> 01:42:48,956 How do we prevent people from becoming drug addicts? 2338 01:42:49,041 --> 01:42:51,626 How do we prevent people from being incarcerated? 2339 01:42:51,710 --> 01:42:54,111 Too many people in jail that don't need to be there. 2340 01:42:54,163 --> 01:42:55,963 There's a lot that is not working. 2341 01:42:56,048 --> 01:42:58,966 Narrator: In recent months, under increasing public pressure 2342 01:42:59,051 --> 01:43:01,419 the first signs have emerged that the drug war, 2343 01:43:01,470 --> 01:43:04,422 after decades of failure and unsustainable cost 2344 01:43:04,473 --> 01:43:05,757 may indeed be changing. 2345 01:43:05,808 --> 01:43:07,124 Newscaster: Congress took action today 2346 01:43:07,176 --> 01:43:08,426 to fix what many have called 2347 01:43:08,477 --> 01:43:12,096 a very unfair gap in federal sentencing rules 2348 01:43:12,147 --> 01:43:15,933 for crack cocaine as opposed to powder cocaine. 2349 01:43:15,984 --> 01:43:18,603 President Obama signed a new law at the white house today 2350 01:43:18,654 --> 01:43:21,072 cutting the ratio to 18:1. 2351 01:43:21,139 --> 01:43:22,607 Mauer: We view that as a compromise. 2352 01:43:22,658 --> 01:43:24,975 We view that as not providing full justice, 2353 01:43:25,027 --> 01:43:27,745 and we won't rest after that's adopted. 2354 01:43:27,813 --> 01:43:29,997 Narrator: Yet despite a few first steps toward reform, 2355 01:43:30,082 --> 01:43:31,949 those experienced with criminal justice 2356 01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,452 know it will take more than experts, activists, 2357 01:43:34,503 --> 01:43:36,621 and a handful of courageous lawmakers 2358 01:43:36,672 --> 01:43:39,824 to undo the damage that decades of drug laws have caused. 2359 01:43:39,875 --> 01:43:43,511 Simon: Understand that the political infrastructure 2360 01:43:43,595 --> 01:43:45,930 is so wedded to the status quo, 2361 01:43:45,997 --> 01:43:48,049 that they're so consumed with the next election 2362 01:43:48,133 --> 01:43:51,602 that there will never emerge a shred of leadership 2363 01:43:51,670 --> 01:43:53,170 that will change the situation. 2364 01:43:53,222 --> 01:43:54,806 It's up to us. 2365 01:43:54,857 --> 01:43:56,507 Man: When do we want it? All: Right now! 2366 01:43:56,558 --> 01:43:57,775 Man: When do we want it? All: Now! 2367 01:43:57,843 --> 01:44:01,345 No longer can drug laws serve as a stimulus package 2368 01:44:01,397 --> 01:44:04,682 for prison communities on the back of poor people. 2369 01:44:04,733 --> 01:44:06,284 Stewart: My takeaway from the past 15 years 2370 01:44:06,351 --> 01:44:08,619 isn't that we need to wait until we get consensus. 2371 01:44:08,687 --> 01:44:10,521 It's that we need to do what's right. 2372 01:44:10,572 --> 01:44:12,707 If there are people like this body 2373 01:44:12,791 --> 01:44:14,792 who are the sentencing experts 2374 01:44:14,860 --> 01:44:17,027 that are supposed to tell congress 2375 01:44:17,079 --> 01:44:21,048 and tell the public what the right thing to do is, 2376 01:44:21,133 --> 01:44:23,968 I just urge you to do it. 2377 01:44:24,035 --> 01:44:27,472 Man: I believe it is in the interest of every American 2378 01:44:27,539 --> 01:44:31,893 that we thoroughly examine our entire criminal justice system, 2379 01:44:31,977 --> 01:44:33,895 bien: You need to care about that person down the block 2380 01:44:33,979 --> 01:44:36,681 because the same rights that they have, you have. 2381 01:44:36,732 --> 01:44:39,016 And if you let their rights be compromised, 2382 01:44:39,067 --> 01:44:40,685 your rights are compromised. 2383 01:44:40,736 --> 01:44:44,355 At some point, you have to stand up and say it's not ok. 2384 01:44:44,406 --> 01:44:46,190 Haltiwanger: You know, if anything's 2385 01:44:46,241 --> 01:44:48,109 ever is gonna be done about this, if this is gonna change, 2386 01:44:48,193 --> 01:44:50,495 it's gonna have to come from the people out there, 2387 01:44:50,562 --> 01:44:52,363 they're gonna have to help, you know. 2388 01:44:52,414 --> 01:44:54,031 We can't do it from in here. 2389 01:44:54,082 --> 01:44:56,734 Bennett: Do you know what it's like to go home at night 2390 01:44:56,785 --> 01:45:00,505 knowing that you did a personal injustice. 2391 01:45:00,572 --> 01:45:02,907 I did an injustice to Maurice. 2392 01:45:04,259 --> 01:45:05,743 Man: I'll amend the charge on her 2393 01:45:05,794 --> 01:45:08,346 to a violation of unlawful possession of marijuana, 2394 01:45:08,413 --> 01:45:10,748 22105. 2395 01:45:19,858 --> 01:45:22,560 Narrator: Back in 2008, when I began filming, 2396 01:45:22,611 --> 01:45:24,094 despite the excitement 2397 01:45:24,146 --> 01:45:26,230 surrounding the election of Barack Obama, 2398 01:45:26,281 --> 01:45:28,232 the thoughts nannie jeter shared that night 2399 01:45:28,283 --> 01:45:31,068 would stay with me more than any other. 2400 01:45:31,119 --> 01:45:32,987 Nannie: I feel I cheated myself 2401 01:45:33,071 --> 01:45:35,373 out of what I could have accomplished, 2402 01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:39,443 like I never knew that I wanted to be in politics, 2403 01:45:39,495 --> 01:45:43,113 to be a voice for someone, to say what was wrong, 2404 01:45:43,165 --> 01:45:45,132 will it be changed or not, 2405 01:45:45,217 --> 01:45:48,803 but to make known that it's wrong. 2406 01:45:51,006 --> 01:45:56,310 I've learned so much and I try to tell it to other people, 2407 01:45:56,395 --> 01:45:58,479 but it's like people would rather go down 2408 01:45:58,564 --> 01:46:02,316 the same road that you went down before they learn. 2409 01:46:06,772 --> 01:46:09,240 You make mistakes through life. 2410 01:46:09,307 --> 01:46:12,109 It's like mistakes is always there. 2411 01:46:12,160 --> 01:46:14,579 You make a lot of mistakes with your life. 2412 01:46:14,646 --> 01:46:18,032 But when you somehow blow your kid's life, 2413 01:46:18,116 --> 01:46:20,868 you always think about it. 2414 01:46:20,953 --> 01:46:22,837 Obama: But above all, 2415 01:46:22,921 --> 01:46:26,958 I will never forget who this victory truly belongs to. 2416 01:46:27,009 --> 01:46:29,293 It belongs to you. 2417 01:46:29,344 --> 01:46:31,829 [Cheering] 2418 01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:35,182 Nannie: I don't understand the war on drugs. 2419 01:46:37,519 --> 01:46:40,938 All I know is... 2420 01:46:41,006 --> 01:46:43,975 I miss my son. 2421 01:47:39,698 --> 01:47:41,032 Announcer: "Independent lens" continues 2422 01:47:41,083 --> 01:47:44,535 with a short film "as I am" by Alan spearman. 2423 01:47:46,672 --> 01:47:48,623 Man: Imagine your dreams. 2424 01:47:48,707 --> 01:47:51,075 See what you've been through. 2425 01:47:51,126 --> 01:47:52,960 Think about yourself... 2426 01:47:53,045 --> 01:47:54,545 Where you're going... 2427 01:47:54,612 --> 01:47:56,797 Where you're from. 2428 01:47:56,882 --> 01:48:00,668 Think about the dreams you've had... 2429 01:48:00,752 --> 01:48:05,389 The nightmares you've had. 2430 01:48:05,457 --> 01:48:07,308 I used to have nightmares 2431 01:48:07,392 --> 01:48:10,177 that I would be stuck in a storm drain. 2432 01:48:10,262 --> 01:48:11,583 People would walk past me for days 2433 01:48:11,629 --> 01:48:14,065 and leave me down there, 2434 01:48:14,132 --> 01:48:16,600 and I would see and hear everything. 2435 01:48:18,437 --> 01:48:20,971 I would see people selling and buying drugs, 2436 01:48:21,023 --> 01:48:23,941 folks fighting, hookers, hustlers. 2437 01:48:23,992 --> 01:48:25,660 Street life. 2438 01:48:25,744 --> 01:48:27,504 My hands and arms would just be sticking out, 2439 01:48:27,529 --> 01:48:29,030 and nobody would help me. 2440 01:48:29,114 --> 01:48:33,284 I can't pull myself out on my own. 2441 01:48:33,335 --> 01:48:34,651 People just keep walking past me 2442 01:48:34,703 --> 01:48:37,171 like I didn't exist. 2443 01:48:37,255 --> 01:48:39,790 What if I was never born? 2444 01:48:44,046 --> 01:48:46,430 I shouldn't be here. 2445 01:48:46,498 --> 01:48:50,184 I died when I was two. 2446 01:48:50,268 --> 01:48:51,886 Tell you the truth... 2447 01:48:51,970 --> 01:48:53,220 [Heartbeat] 2448 01:48:53,305 --> 01:48:57,692 The doctors gave up on me. 2449 01:48:57,776 --> 01:49:00,861 God brought me back. 2450 01:49:00,946 --> 01:49:05,900 I always think I got to be here for a reason. 2451 01:49:05,984 --> 01:49:08,953 My dad got murdered, shot more than 20 times 2452 01:49:09,020 --> 01:49:11,238 on the same streets that I walk today. 2453 01:49:19,664 --> 01:49:22,833 You got to know the cuts. 2454 01:49:22,884 --> 01:49:25,302 Sometimes, the lines in our hands intersect 2455 01:49:25,370 --> 01:49:27,304 like the cuts in the hood. 2456 01:49:27,372 --> 01:49:30,841 You just got to feel your way through. 2457 01:49:30,892 --> 01:49:34,845 We take shortcuts to stay out of sight, 2458 01:49:34,896 --> 01:49:37,431 but they just keep us out of mind. 2459 01:49:48,076 --> 01:49:52,329 Where I'm from, ain't no rose bushes. 2460 01:49:52,397 --> 01:49:54,115 They just sticky bushes. 2461 01:50:14,919 --> 01:50:17,021 I've had the same exact dream 2462 01:50:17,088 --> 01:50:19,023 over a thousand times. 2463 01:50:23,278 --> 01:50:25,563 I keep throwing money out of a helicopter 2464 01:50:25,614 --> 01:50:27,281 to the homeless people. 2465 01:50:43,215 --> 01:50:46,383 It's a day-to-day struggle 2466 01:50:46,451 --> 01:50:48,469 and an everyday hustle. 2467 01:50:51,122 --> 01:50:52,956 You do what you have to. 2468 01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:58,062 No matter what it is, 2469 01:50:58,129 --> 01:50:59,480 you do what you got to do. 2470 01:51:02,317 --> 01:51:05,019 We don't know what they been through. 2471 01:51:05,103 --> 01:51:08,138 We don't know their story. 2472 01:51:08,190 --> 01:51:10,658 People just looking for a hand. 2473 01:51:10,742 --> 01:51:13,410 They say there's a better life, 2474 01:51:13,478 --> 01:51:17,314 but when you go out there looking for that better life, 2475 01:51:17,365 --> 01:51:20,501 you don't get no help when you try to do the right thing. 2476 01:51:27,209 --> 01:51:29,510 The streets taught me to be hard. 2477 01:51:29,594 --> 01:51:31,495 It's hard. 2478 01:51:31,546 --> 01:51:33,664 Most times, it's too hard. 2479 01:51:37,686 --> 01:51:41,639 I shouldn't be here 2480 01:51:41,690 --> 01:51:49,690 in a blank state, in a city with no fight, 2481 01:51:50,448 --> 01:51:54,235 in an area code with no hope, 2482 01:51:54,319 --> 01:51:57,955 in a house with no lights, 2483 01:51:58,022 --> 01:52:00,991 in a body with no soul, 2484 01:52:01,042 --> 01:52:05,496 in a mind with no goals. 2485 01:52:05,547 --> 01:52:07,381 I shouldn't be here. 2486 01:52:07,465 --> 01:52:10,867 This state shouldn't be my life. 2487 01:52:15,423 --> 01:52:19,393 Am I lucky to be unfortunate? 2488 01:52:19,477 --> 01:52:22,897 When we dream, we enter an empty space 2489 01:52:22,981 --> 01:52:24,881 that's filled with hope. 2490 01:52:28,403 --> 01:52:30,487 Stuff happens every day, 2491 01:52:30,555 --> 01:52:32,323 stuff you shouldn't get used to, 2492 01:52:32,390 --> 01:52:35,192 but you do. 2493 01:52:35,243 --> 01:52:37,661 Most stuff just make you want to give up. 2494 01:52:39,781 --> 01:52:42,583 They know deep down inside that they'll never 2495 01:52:42,667 --> 01:52:46,737 have a mansion or smell the ocean, 2496 01:52:46,788 --> 01:52:49,423 but they'll never admit it 2497 01:52:49,507 --> 01:52:52,409 because their minds don't work like that. 2498 01:52:52,460 --> 01:52:55,713 You can only try so hard to pull yourself out, 2499 01:52:55,764 --> 01:52:57,247 and if you can't, 2500 01:52:57,299 --> 01:52:59,633 you gonna pull somebody down with you. 2501 01:53:03,471 --> 01:53:05,389 Friends turn to foe. 2502 01:53:05,440 --> 01:53:08,759 Family turn into people you just don't know. 2503 01:53:08,810 --> 01:53:10,427 The streets are cold 2504 01:53:10,478 --> 01:53:15,399 even in the summer. 2505 01:53:15,450 --> 01:53:18,435 Two blocks from the hood, it's a whole new world, 2506 01:53:18,486 --> 01:53:20,204 but why? 2507 01:53:20,271 --> 01:53:23,290 Is there a new world two blocks from the hood? 2508 01:53:23,375 --> 01:53:25,709 More importantly, why is the hood two blocks 2509 01:53:25,777 --> 01:53:28,162 from the new world? 2510 01:53:28,246 --> 01:53:32,282 How far can a flip go? 2511 01:53:32,334 --> 01:53:34,835 I don't know anyone who can say they walked 2512 01:53:34,919 --> 01:53:38,589 in my shoes and made it out of the hood. 2513 01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:43,927 What I do know is we're meant to connect, 2514 01:53:43,979 --> 01:53:46,430 to find each other. 2515 01:53:46,481 --> 01:53:48,482 Eyes to see, 2516 01:53:48,566 --> 01:53:51,018 hands to feel, 2517 01:53:51,102 --> 01:53:53,070 hearts to love. 2518 01:54:13,758 --> 01:54:16,627 Online at pbs.Org. 2519 01:54:16,695 --> 01:54:19,763 You can also follow us on Facebook and Twitter, 2520 01:54:19,831 --> 01:54:22,700 watch videos, and explore interactive features. 2521 01:54:22,767 --> 01:54:26,603 There's always more to every program on our web site. 2522 01:54:46,357 --> 01:54:47,958 Announcer: This program is made possible by 2523 01:54:48,026 --> 01:54:50,828 the corporation for public broadcasting, 2524 01:54:50,895 --> 01:54:52,863 the national endowment for the arts, 2525 01:54:52,931 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