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In 1982 Fangoria published issue #23
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of its "Fantastic Horror Movie Magazine".
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In it Bob Martin wrote:
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"Sullivan's artistic talent
was immediately put to use
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designing the ads for
the film group's showings,
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but it was his hands-on experience
in makeup effects and stop motion
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that made him invaluable
when the project began."
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It also lets you know
what you can take too,
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and what's strange
about those situations is,
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some of this rubbed off into the movie.
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Because there has to be a reason
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the movies are still
popular 30 years later.
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Hi! We're here with Tom Sullivan,
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the famous filmmaker...
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special effects...
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Let's start that again!
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We're here with Tom Sullivan,
the old...
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okay, let's start that again.
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What's your name again?
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Hi! I'm Tom Sullivan,
the famous special effects creator
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for "The Evil Dead"
and "The Evil Dead 2".
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And I did some stuff on
"The Army of Darkness".
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I mean look...
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we should shut down.
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If you want to have an
interesting documentary
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you have to go into Tom's life.
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Tom was like an island.
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We were the
current that flowed around him.
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He was the rock.
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So we're gonna go over all the stories?
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. Yes!
' Okay!
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It's your sister Cheryl!
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I mean I did know
that I took off my top,
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which I did not want to do,
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but they made me do it!
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Loose ankles... gross!
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All the luminaries
are here tonight.
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Unbelievable!
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How do you like that?
Can I take a picture?
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Which means?
Which means?
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Party down, yeah!
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Tom Sullivan is
an absolute genius.
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Michelangelo's got nothing on the man!
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Can I take some pictures?
I'm just a fan.
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His visuals still are extremely
memorable and part of that whole franchise.
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I'm just a fan.
Let me take your picture.
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I was really impressed
by Tom's work because,
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he really created something super cool.
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Probably helped a lot that I was
completely in awe of you and your work.
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Things worked out well for all of us.
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I was blown away by his artwork.
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His enthusiasm was wonderful.
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You seemed like a really
artistic version of a makeup artist,
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so it seemed logical to
use you for "The Evil Dead".
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But it was a new field for us too.
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So you were leading the way.
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Tell us where it all started.
What year you were born?
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I was born in 1954.
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Which is the same year "Godzilla" was born.
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And the giant ants in "Them".
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And so on and so forth...
I like that.
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I was born in Oaklawn hospital in Marshall.
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This is the house my parents owned.
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I lived there for three month.
Then we moved to Farmington, Michigan.
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I was just a baby.
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I lived in the little town of
Farmington for the first five years.
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Then we moved to Franklin
which was really great.
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That was out in the boonies.
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We had a big valley in the backyard.
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It had a big tree
in the bottom of it.
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We could go roam around down there.
It had a tire swing that went across the river.
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Very cool.
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One Saturday morning,
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my brother Mike and I,
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and I'm about four or five years old,
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we're watching "King Kong" at 10am.
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- Franklin, Michigan?
- Right.
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We had a big old farmhouse
with a swimming pool.
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It was permanently cold.
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And on the big old black
and white TV came "King Kong".
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It inspired me, changed
my genetic programming:
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"That's what I want
to do when I grow up:
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I want to make movies
and dinosaurs and stuff."
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You can do anything you want.
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"Famous Monsters" came to my attention.
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Like in the third grade or so.
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That's Forey Ackerman's
amazing tribute to horror films
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and special effects and all that stuff.
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And the people behind
them most importantly.
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He had articles on Willis O'Brien
and "King Kong".
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And Ray Harryhausen.
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It was just fun to hook into that.
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All the stuff that was coming and
all the things to look forward to.
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Later on, I got some jobs
mowing lawns and things.
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I saved up 20 bucks.
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I bought an 8mm camera that
had a single frame thing on it.
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You wind it up, you push a button
and it will take one single frame.
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Suddenly I could make
stop motion animation.
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So I started doing clay things.
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I had a Major Matt Mason
and I filmed him running around.
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In these towns, for the
most part, I was like the
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only guy really wanting
to do the film making part.
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When I was in the 8th grade
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Tom was going to start a
stop motion animation class.
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A community extension course.
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- Pat, his little friend...
- Little Friend?
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Yeah, he was like 15 or 16 at the time.
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He came into my 8th
grade social studies class.
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He showed 8mm animated dinosaurs.
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Tom provided all the 8mm cameras.
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We had more fun then we
should have been allowed.
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He was a very good teacher.
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That was our first adventure
in film making together.
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It was awesome!
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Later in high school years,
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I took drawing really seriously.
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Thanks to a kid I met named Kurt Lux.
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I noticed that during cafeteria hour,
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during lunch, he'd be drawing and have
a crowd of people standing behind him.
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And half of them were girls.
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That was great. You could be
popular without talking to anybody.
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I was a painfully shy guy.
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And still am.
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I can hide it on conventions.
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So I said: "Could you
show me how to do that?"
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And immediately I'm
buying books on anatomy,
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tons of things...
books on drawing and art.
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Suddenly I am hooked into books.
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That's absolutely essential.
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I got stacks of them now.
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That's me, when I had hair.
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I had a fairly large room.
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That was good studio space.
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What I considered at
the time to be his studio,
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in one corner he had a
little back screen set up,
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stop motion armature
puppets all over the place.
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Sculptures and paintings.
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It was one of those
rooms you could walk into and...
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almost nothing in
the room was store bought.
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Space ships built out
of detergent bottles
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and old tubes from TV sets
that he'd taken.
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He broke the glass off
the outside of the tubes
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so all that funky structure inside
those old tubes was for his detailing.
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It was awesome!
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I started just to keep drawing.
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And doodling.
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I just kept drawing.
I loved to draw.
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I'd go home and draw,
and go to the library and draw.
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There I'd absorb every book on art,
cartooning, painting,
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movies, television...
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I'd go through the old Time Magazines
and read movie reviews.
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That was fascinating to me.
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How to tell stories and
how people react to them.
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All that.
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I was spending more time trying to come
up with interesting ways to make armatures.
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I did't have the means to make steel ones.
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So I made an armature
out of Popsicle sticks,
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and wooden beads.
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I was trying to figure out
how much you should move things.
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Finally I had something
that wasn't wire or clay.
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That went on.
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I was just out of high school,
18 or 19 years old.
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During my senior year of high school
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I started working at Schulers,
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which is a high end
restaurant here in Marshall.
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I noticed this cute hat check
girl coming in every once and while.
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It turned out that was Penny Lawrence.
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We'd hang and go to the movies.
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We started dating.
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We got married on
May 17th, 1975 in Marshall.
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At my parents' home.
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My grandparents sold us a
house that they'd inherited.
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It was just around the
corner on Madison Street.
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So we took up residence there.
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She wanted an education.
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She had a great interest in journalism.
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So she went to Michigan State.
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Of course I went along too.
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We lived in Cherry Lane Apartments.
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I also took some classes in
painting and figure drawing
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at the local community college.
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The instruction there was pretty good.
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I worked at the Hobee Sandwich Shop.
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It was right across on Trowbridge Road.
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There was a little mall there.
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And she went to school.
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I went to Jackson, Michigan,
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to attend a J. Allen Hynek talk
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at the Michigan Space Center.
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This was in 1977,
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right before "Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind"
came out.
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There I met one of the
organizers of the event, Bill Bates.
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I let him know that I was
interested in movies and special effects
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and could do artwork and stuff,
so we hit it off right away.
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He had a film idea of a
Lovecraftian story called "Cry of Cthulhu".
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The story he was telling me
was the "cosmic" Lovecraft.
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It was unknown Kadath and
journals and portals opening up.
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It wasn't a family in a weird house down the road.
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It was like the earth
opening up and Yagoth Sagoth
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coming from the bowels of the earth.
Lots of monsters.
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I illustrated the scenes
Bill would tell me about.
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These were the pre-digital days.
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It was going to be an epic
stop motion animation film.
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Live action with
animation ala Ray Harryhausen.
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Lovecraft meets Harryhausen.
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I think that's still a cool idea.
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With that material they were
able to get some publicity.
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In "Cinefantastique" and I think in "Starlog".
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Some nice little bits.
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I was like: "Hey! My name's out there!
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The people can see my work. "
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I was very encouraged by that.
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Even if the film doesn't happen,
my name is out there.
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A major studio from LA got interested.
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The CEO said: "Looks interesting but
I'm not sure if it's for us right now. "
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He sent them home.
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Six month later they got a tax
bill for half a million dollars.
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The executive had given
green lights for the project.
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He collected three million
dollars in starting founds.
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And he made it look like these guys got it.
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This executive must be
getting out of jail about now.
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Welcome to Hollywood!
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What else do you say?
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It's still one of the
coolest movies never made.
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I was still doing some things
for the "Cry of Cthulhu" artwork.
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I was looking through the MSU school paper
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and read about the MSU
creative film making society.
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It was an interview with Ivan Raimi.
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Ivan and his brother Sam had found out
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that you could rent a school auditorium
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at a discount rate if you're
a student living on campus.
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This should encourage student led activities.
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Sam had all these Super 8
movies and a projector.
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So he just figured we'll show up,
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show a couple of hours
of my Super 8 movies.
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And Bruce would show up
every once in a while.
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He wasn't going to MSU.
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He was going to Wayne State
or something like that.
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But he'd show up.
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He was a shy guy back then.
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But I got to meet all these guys.
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Ivan, Sam and Rob.
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And Ted.
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By the time I met Sam,
he would go back weekends
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to film bits of "it's Murder".
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He went back to Franklin during the weekend.
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He's also from Franklin.
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Our houses were only a
couple of blocks from each other.
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After a couple of weekends,
he was in post-production.
250
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He'd ask you:
"What skills do you have?"
251
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I wanted to jump in:
"Hey? Can I help?"
252
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"Yeah! We're putting on a show...
what can you do?"
253
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I said:
"I'll come up with a poster. "
254
00:14:24,990 --> 00:14:29,750
I remember you drew a cool
poster for "it's Murder".
255
00:14:30,037 --> 00:14:31,657
That was in 1978.
256
00:14:31,997 --> 00:14:34,207
It was before "The Evil Dead".
257
00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:37,000
I think I met you 1977.
258
00:14:37,336 --> 00:14:39,666
"Happy Valley Kid" was 1977.
259
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I knew that Rob Tapert and Sam Raimi
had met you through school.
260
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And I had heard about it.
261
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We used to come up on weekends all
the time to work on "Happy Valley Kid".
262
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To help Sam.
263
00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,690
His big epic was "it's Murder".
264
00:14:58,858 --> 00:15:00,568
But that time, I think,
you guys knew each other more.
265
00:15:01,151 --> 00:15:04,031
And then you did a really great poster.
266
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For this little Super 8 movie.
267
00:15:08,492 --> 00:15:11,372
It made it look like a huge action adventure.
268
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Like a spectacle.
269
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Really inventive and
it served to movie well.
270
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It was an amateur movie.
271
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It was an early test of
poster advertising.
272
00:15:22,464 --> 00:15:25,184
Sam learned a lot from doing that.
273
00:15:25,467 --> 00:15:29,467
These are my earliest
recollections of "it's Murder".
274
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So... 1978, 1988, 1998, 2008.
275
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So that's... 34 years ago.
276
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- And then...
- And counting of course.
277
00:15:40,941 --> 00:15:43,491
I'm sure I didn't meet him
during "Happy Valley Kid".
278
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I didn't meet him until
Sam's next film "it's Murder".
279
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When we screened it
at MSU Tom was there.
280
00:15:53,287 --> 00:15:56,287
It was a snowy night,
a bad night for a premiere.
281
00:15:56,707 --> 00:15:59,587
I guess Darryl Hall and John Oats
were playing that night.
282
00:15:59,793 --> 00:16:04,303
There was a MSU basketball game.
With Magic Johnson on the team.
283
00:16:04,506 --> 00:16:07,126
And it was very snowy.
284
00:16:07,593 --> 00:16:10,393
That's his first
connection into the thing.
285
00:16:10,596 --> 00:16:13,346
And Tom was there.
286
00:16:13,641 --> 00:16:15,431
And Bruce and Scott Spiegel,
287
00:16:15,768 --> 00:16:18,018
Sam, me and Tom.
288
00:16:19,939 --> 00:16:22,439
The movie was on a big reel.
289
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An 85 minute Super 8 movie.
290
00:16:24,860 --> 00:16:28,490
Like the biggest
Super 8 movie of them all.
291
00:16:30,574 --> 00:16:32,164
It was supposed to start at 8pm.
292
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8:05... 8:10... 8:15...
293
00:16:34,578 --> 00:16:36,958
Finally one guy shows up.
For one buck admission.
294
00:16:37,498 --> 00:16:42,628
Torn was working the box,
selling the tickets... the ticket.
295
00:16:43,128 --> 00:16:44,758
He sold 'the' ticket!
296
00:16:46,715 --> 00:16:50,335
I don't remember selling tickets.
I would have been happy to.
297
00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,100
That guy comes in and sits down.
298
00:16:55,683 --> 00:16:59,103
One person in a 100 seat theatre.
299
00:16:59,561 --> 00:17:01,111
Sam goes: "Fuck it!
300
00:17:01,271 --> 00:17:04,021
I made the movie so I'm showing it."
301
00:17:04,525 --> 00:17:06,815
So he turns it on.
302
00:17:07,236 --> 00:17:10,066
After like ten
minutes the guy stands up:
303
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"You got my money... "
and he left.
304
00:17:15,869 --> 00:17:19,209
Sam let it run for another
minute and turned it off.
305
00:17:19,999 --> 00:17:21,539
That was the first screening.
306
00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:23,670
And then the second screening...
307
00:17:23,836 --> 00:17:26,006
we got one person for the first
screening and nobody for the second.
308
00:17:26,338 --> 00:17:28,798
I'm pretty sure nobody showed up.
309
00:17:29,091 --> 00:17:30,341
That was kind of sad.
310
00:17:30,551 --> 00:17:34,181
But we'd go to their place afterwards
311
00:17:34,346 --> 00:17:36,466
and showed my movies
and just talked films.
312
00:17:38,809 --> 00:17:40,309
And we'd do what college kids do.
313
00:17:40,519 --> 00:17:44,019
Then we went back to Sam's dorm room.
314
00:17:44,314 --> 00:17:45,734
We got loaded.
315
00:17:46,275 --> 00:17:47,985
I remember that Tom
was in good spirits.
316
00:17:49,611 --> 00:17:51,781
He seemed very
amiable to have around
317
00:17:51,989 --> 00:17:55,279
considering Tom was in the
worst depression of his life.
318
00:17:55,701 --> 00:17:57,661
This was my bud's.
319
00:17:57,995 --> 00:18:00,705
And I was making movies at
the same time with these guys.
320
00:18:00,914 --> 00:18:01,964
And Sam was coming in.
321
00:18:02,207 --> 00:18:07,457
My camera was more
in desire then I was.
322
00:18:08,297 --> 00:18:10,757
I am sorry.
Did I wake you?
323
00:18:14,261 --> 00:18:17,181
It's a war wound.
A piece of shrapnel hit me in the neck.
324
00:18:17,389 --> 00:18:19,389
And now it goes limp
anytime it wants to.
325
00:18:19,641 --> 00:18:21,391
Would massaging it help?
326
00:18:21,602 --> 00:18:23,692
I've known Ellen forever.
I discovered her.
327
00:18:23,854 --> 00:18:28,324
I put her in her very first movie in 1976.
328
00:18:29,276 --> 00:18:32,236
Your mouth wash smells heavenly.
Might I give it a try?
329
00:18:32,738 --> 00:18:36,078
We all had a crush on her
at one point or another.
330
00:18:36,325 --> 00:18:37,905
I remember having a crush on her
331
00:18:38,243 --> 00:18:40,503
and walking in the Raimis' house.
332
00:18:40,704 --> 00:18:43,754
I was walking down the
corridor passing the kitchen.
333
00:18:43,957 --> 00:18:46,627
Her and Sam were kissing.
334
00:18:49,713 --> 00:18:51,513
I was destroyed.
335
00:18:54,510 --> 00:18:56,010
Please give me the pearl!
336
00:18:56,345 --> 00:18:59,135
You wouldn't shoot me, Fritz.
You loved me once.
337
00:19:00,641 --> 00:19:03,641
Be thankful. Now I
will only kill you once.
338
00:19:06,396 --> 00:19:08,226
What about you, Mr. Temple?
339
00:19:09,942 --> 00:19:12,152
She's been my friend forever.
340
00:19:12,820 --> 00:19:19,240
I think she, with all respect
to Bruce and everybody else,
341
00:19:19,493 --> 00:19:21,623
I think she steals the
show in "The Evil Dead".
342
00:19:22,121 --> 00:19:25,081
She's kind of the only
one who knows how to act.
343
00:19:27,417 --> 00:19:28,837
Thanks, Josh.
344
00:19:29,253 --> 00:19:33,923
What got me making movies
was going to high school
345
00:19:34,299 --> 00:19:37,139
with Sam Raimi, Bruce Campbell,
Josh Becker and John Cameron.
346
00:19:38,011 --> 00:19:39,431
We ware all in plays together.
347
00:19:40,931 --> 00:19:46,271
Whenever they needed a female
they'd ask me, and I said sure.
348
00:19:46,562 --> 00:19:48,862
The first time I met Tom Sullivan
349
00:19:49,064 --> 00:19:52,154
was on the set of "The Evil Dead".
350
00:19:53,110 --> 00:19:56,070
Or maybe "Within the Woods".
Did he work on that? Yeah...
351
00:19:56,405 --> 00:19:59,065
We took money that we had ourselves,
352
00:19:59,283 --> 00:20:00,533
working as bus boys and cab drivers.
353
00:20:00,826 --> 00:20:05,036
We shot a 30 minute short which we
ran out at the Punch and Judy theatre.
354
00:20:05,289 --> 00:20:10,039
I was over at Sam and Rob's
apartment north of the campus.
355
00:20:10,627 --> 00:20:16,717
They were talking about making a short
film to raise money for "The Evil Dead".
356
00:20:17,134 --> 00:20:20,434
I think it was in May 1978,
357
00:20:20,929 --> 00:20:25,099
we were ready to start shooting
"Within the Woods",
358
00:20:25,392 --> 00:20:28,022
at the Tapert farm in Marshall, Michigan.
359
00:20:29,479 --> 00:20:31,769
Unfortunately not enough
people have seen "Within the Woods".
360
00:20:31,982 --> 00:20:35,862
This is a location where some of
the more graphic things happened.
361
00:20:36,153 --> 00:20:38,783
Bruce, who's been
possessed by an Indian spirit,
362
00:20:39,072 --> 00:20:41,662
is now killing his good friends.
363
00:20:41,950 --> 00:20:46,830
Here he stabbed Mary Valenti in
the throat with an Indian dagger.
364
00:20:47,581 --> 00:20:52,631
She pukes out some guts
made out of marshmallows and food coloring.
365
00:20:54,087 --> 00:20:56,257
Then he throws her body onto the ground
366
00:20:56,465 --> 00:20:58,335
and stabs her with an Indian cross.
367
00:21:04,431 --> 00:21:07,681
Yes, I met him at Michigan State University.
368
00:21:08,101 --> 00:21:09,811
I think Rob and Sam
hooked up with them
369
00:21:10,020 --> 00:21:12,060
around the time we were
showing "it's Murder".
370
00:21:12,481 --> 00:21:16,781
In fact Tom Sullivan did a
little flyer for "it's Murder".
371
00:21:17,110 --> 00:21:19,780
To advertise the screening.
372
00:21:20,155 --> 00:21:24,075
And then, somehow,
we saw his effects.
373
00:21:24,284 --> 00:21:26,454
We loved his effects,
short films, dragons...
374
00:21:26,662 --> 00:21:28,212
Next thing you know,
he's doing "The Evil Dead".
375
00:21:28,455 --> 00:21:29,745
We did "Within the Woods".
376
00:21:29,957 --> 00:21:31,707
He was just incredibly talented.
377
00:21:32,167 --> 00:21:34,747
We loved his work on
"Within the Woods".
378
00:21:35,003 --> 00:21:36,423
That began "The Evil Dead".
379
00:21:36,713 --> 00:21:40,263
And Torn did some work
on "The Evil Dead 2".
380
00:21:40,425 --> 00:21:41,675
For the opening sequence and everything.
381
00:21:41,969 --> 00:21:45,099
He had an incredible talent.
Sam was great to hire him.
382
00:21:45,264 --> 00:21:46,974
And the same with Robert and Bruce.
383
00:21:47,266 --> 00:21:50,976
His visuals still are very memorable.
384
00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:52,520
They are part of that whole franchise.
385
00:21:52,729 --> 00:21:55,439
I just have great memories.
386
00:21:55,732 --> 00:21:59,362
I had Tom... and a
little cameo in "Hostel 3".
387
00:21:59,778 --> 00:22:04,408
I love Tom and his work.
He's really awesome!
388
00:22:05,867 --> 00:22:08,827
My biggest disappointment
about "Within the Woods"
389
00:22:08,996 --> 00:22:18,376
is that the fans have never really seen
a real quality image of Bruce's makeup.
390
00:22:18,588 --> 00:22:21,088
When he was made up as a zombie.
391
00:22:21,425 --> 00:22:24,085
The dangling eye and the whole thing.
392
00:22:24,469 --> 00:22:28,059
To think that they
pretty much improvised that...
393
00:22:28,432 --> 00:22:32,692
That was my first
nasty makeup experience.
394
00:22:32,853 --> 00:22:38,983
Even a month after we filmed... my skin
had different patterns in it.
395
00:22:39,568 --> 00:22:41,148
For easily a month.
396
00:22:41,403 --> 00:22:46,413
I am sure that through all these early
experiments we'll have long term...
397
00:22:47,284 --> 00:22:52,374
Filming in Sam's garage
with these oil based fog machines.
398
00:22:52,706 --> 00:22:54,076
Breathing that crap.
399
00:22:54,249 --> 00:22:58,379
When you're whipping up the lens
of your camera, you're breathing it.
400
00:22:58,545 --> 00:23:00,045
Those were the good old days.
401
00:23:00,297 --> 00:23:03,127
I remember my old Pontiac.
402
00:23:04,176 --> 00:23:08,006
I'd run into Tom's brother Mike.
403
00:23:08,347 --> 00:23:11,847
"You should go down there where
those guys are making a movie."
404
00:23:12,100 --> 00:23:13,310
I said: "What movie?"
405
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,610
He said: "I don't know.
Just go down to... "
406
00:23:18,857 --> 00:23:20,727
So I went down.
407
00:23:21,026 --> 00:23:25,276
I recognized a couple
of cars in the driveway, so I pulled in.
408
00:23:25,655 --> 00:23:28,025
Tom was in the driveway.
409
00:23:28,325 --> 00:23:32,285
Bruce was sitting in a chair in the driveway.
410
00:23:32,746 --> 00:23:35,706
And Tom was touching up his makeup.
411
00:23:35,999 --> 00:23:38,999
I just got out of the
car and was standing around.
412
00:23:39,711 --> 00:23:42,461
After like 15 or 20 minutes
413
00:23:43,715 --> 00:23:48,175
Sam yelled at me that
I had to do something.
414
00:23:48,804 --> 00:23:50,104
"Hold this, do that..."
415
00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:51,470
Okay...
416
00:23:52,015 --> 00:23:54,635
I hung out and watched history being made.
417
00:23:55,143 --> 00:24:00,523
Even though I thought I was just watching
a bunch of goofy guys making a silly movie.
418
00:24:00,982 --> 00:24:05,112
I think for you it was a
first indicator of what to expect.
419
00:24:05,570 --> 00:24:09,320
Of making a longer - because I
think this was like 30 minutes -
420
00:24:09,699 --> 00:24:12,619
yeah. 28 minutes of raw dynamite.
421
00:24:12,869 --> 00:24:18,669
Because it takes... the concept
of making doubles of things.
422
00:24:19,126 --> 00:24:21,336
You have to have something
ready by a certain time.
423
00:24:21,545 --> 00:24:23,875
When do you need this?
424
00:24:24,297 --> 00:24:26,167
Or do you come in with everything ready.
425
00:24:26,550 --> 00:24:28,090
You had to learn the whole process
426
00:24:28,301 --> 00:24:29,341
just like we had to
learn about film making.
427
00:24:29,761 --> 00:24:34,561
I had seen the piece in
the daily news one day.
428
00:24:35,851 --> 00:24:39,441
About Sam, Rob and Bruce
having made "Within the Woods"
429
00:24:39,688 --> 00:24:41,688
and shown it out at the
Punch and Judy in Grosse Point.
430
00:24:41,898 --> 00:24:43,608
It was a midnight show.
431
00:24:43,984 --> 00:24:45,784
After "Saturday Night Fever".
432
00:24:46,027 --> 00:24:51,067
I remember them walking through
the lobby of the Punch and Judy.
433
00:24:52,367 --> 00:24:55,997
They were carrying film reels,
speakers and a projector.
434
00:24:56,997 --> 00:25:00,997
I was just sitting in the lobby
and Sam walked right over to me.
435
00:25:01,168 --> 00:25:04,128
He said: "Are you here to
see "Saturday Night Fever"?"
436
00:25:06,173 --> 00:25:07,883
I said:
"No! I am here to see your movie."
437
00:25:08,049 --> 00:25:11,009
He said:
"Ah! That's good."
438
00:25:11,303 --> 00:25:14,643
I went to them after the show,
I loved the show.
439
00:25:14,973 --> 00:25:18,193
They had a little
office at the Punch and Judy.
440
00:25:18,393 --> 00:25:20,353
I said: "What ever you guys are doing...
441
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,270
I want to help.
I want to work with you."
442
00:25:22,439 --> 00:25:24,399
They said".
"We're thinking of making a feature."
443
00:25:25,734 --> 00:25:27,904
I said: "Great! I want to shoot it."
444
00:25:28,403 --> 00:25:31,113
They said: "We're thinking
of doing it in Super 8. "
445
00:25:31,323 --> 00:25:36,163
I said: "Great. Come back to me
when you're doing it in 16mm.
446
00:25:36,453 --> 00:25:38,623
Because it won't work in Super 8. "
447
00:25:39,748 --> 00:25:46,048
Rob and Sam got kicked out of their
apartment for doing sound effects at 4am.
448
00:25:46,505 --> 00:25:48,165
They made too much noise.
449
00:25:48,381 --> 00:25:50,091
That was a pivotal moment for Rob.
450
00:25:50,342 --> 00:25:52,972
Because he decided he
wanted to get rid of...
451
00:25:53,345 --> 00:25:56,595
He was in "Fishery and Wildlife" or something.
452
00:25:56,932 --> 00:25:59,892
He wanted to get out off
that and work on his movies.
453
00:26:00,101 --> 00:26:01,311
That was a pivotal point for him.
454
00:26:01,311 --> 00:26:03,311
When we were tossed out we decided,
455
00:26:03,605 --> 00:26:05,185
it's time to take the big leap forward.
456
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,950
We talked to Bruce about the
three of us becoming partners,
457
00:26:10,111 --> 00:26:11,611
and trying to raise some money on it.
458
00:26:11,905 --> 00:26:13,065
It was logical,
459
00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:17,410
because you had talked about
special effects makeup on top of the art,
460
00:26:18,370 --> 00:26:21,460
it was an interesting
combo to work with you.
461
00:26:22,374 --> 00:26:26,044
Because you seemed like an
artistic version of an makeup artist.
462
00:26:27,045 --> 00:26:28,545
They are all very creative but...
463
00:26:29,005 --> 00:26:31,255
not all of them do those crazy drawings.
464
00:26:31,925 --> 00:26:34,795
Some are craftsmen.
They just kick it out.
465
00:26:35,387 --> 00:26:39,597
So it seemed logical to
use you for "The Evil Dead".
466
00:26:40,892 --> 00:26:42,522
Not that we didn't know anyone else.
467
00:26:42,769 --> 00:26:44,849
We heard of some other random people.
468
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,770
But it was a new field for us too.
469
00:26:48,108 --> 00:26:50,028
So you were leading the way.
470
00:26:50,777 --> 00:26:52,857
So you were leading the way.
471
00:26:55,532 --> 00:27:00,372
Do you have enough budget
to do what you want to do?
472
00:27:14,676 --> 00:27:19,386
During the summer of 1979,
473
00:27:19,723 --> 00:27:23,393
I got to meet the
cast and make face molds,
474
00:27:23,602 --> 00:27:28,902
face castings of them, at the basement of
Sam Raimi's parents' home in Franklin.
475
00:27:29,608 --> 00:27:33,068
I remember the ladies
were there and Hal was there.
476
00:27:33,445 --> 00:27:36,445
I was working as a
diving coach at a high school.
477
00:27:36,781 --> 00:27:39,331
I was a truck driver for a delivery company.
478
00:27:39,743 --> 00:27:41,293
And I was trying to do acting.
479
00:27:41,620 --> 00:27:43,160
I was spinning my
wheels not getting anywhere.
480
00:27:43,455 --> 00:27:45,035
It's kind of fading out a little bit.
481
00:27:45,248 --> 00:27:52,048
And I got an invite to a
audition for "The Evil Dead".
482
00:27:52,339 --> 00:27:54,089
For a movie, in this guy's basement.
483
00:27:54,507 --> 00:27:59,177
The contact was my
room mate Del Howison.
484
00:27:59,971 --> 00:28:01,641
This kind of looks like your old girlfriend.
485
00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:04,680
He contacted him: "We're doing a movie.
You got any actors?"
486
00:28:04,934 --> 00:28:06,274
He said: "Why don't you go over?"
487
00:28:06,436 --> 00:28:08,856
I was like: "No! I'm out.
I'm not doing that."
488
00:28:09,439 --> 00:28:12,359
One month later he said:
"They got auditions one more night,
489
00:28:12,734 --> 00:28:14,744
a buddy of ours, Greg, is in it."
490
00:28:14,986 --> 00:28:16,486
Greg Tatum.
491
00:28:16,946 --> 00:28:18,566
"He's got a part... "
Okay, cool.
492
00:28:18,823 --> 00:28:20,333
"I'll go and try out."
493
00:28:20,575 --> 00:28:22,195
So I went to the audition.
494
00:28:24,245 --> 00:28:25,245
Back in a minute.
495
00:28:25,622 --> 00:28:26,872
I got the part.
496
00:28:27,332 --> 00:28:28,672
I bumped Greg out of the movie.
497
00:28:30,251 --> 00:28:31,591
But we're still friends.
498
00:28:48,895 --> 00:28:52,855
I met Tom the first time at
"The Evil Dead".
499
00:28:53,274 --> 00:29:00,624
He was kind of a thin little madman.
500
00:29:00,615 --> 00:29:01,615
That's what I remember.
501
00:29:01,825 --> 00:29:04,785
Tom was full of ideas.
502
00:29:05,495 --> 00:29:07,455
And he loved movies.
503
00:29:07,997 --> 00:29:11,667
Sol knew that when I saw him
starting to create these things,
504
00:29:11,876 --> 00:29:13,916
they were going to be
something special. Pretty cool!
505
00:29:14,337 --> 00:29:18,377
I remember once Tom
drove me back to Detroit.
506
00:29:18,925 --> 00:29:23,755
We we're shooting in a
small town in Michigan.
507
00:29:24,139 --> 00:29:29,939
He kept talking about this movie
he really wanted to make.
508
00:29:30,186 --> 00:29:32,766
I mean, I listed to my
parents and other grown-ups,
509
00:29:33,022 --> 00:29:35,282
but most of the time I don't
know what they're talking about.
510
00:29:35,942 --> 00:29:37,782
I mean, so it must be important.
511
00:29:38,069 --> 00:29:41,069
He's kind of a power horse.
512
00:29:42,365 --> 00:29:43,945
For the lack of a better word.
513
00:29:44,284 --> 00:29:46,754
He loves to work.
514
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,660
He's just super talented.
515
00:29:50,290 --> 00:29:53,590
Then you guys went down to
Tennessee together, right?
516
00:29:54,085 --> 00:29:56,795
Well, we ended up there.
517
00:29:56,963 --> 00:29:58,843
I drove down with David Goodman.
518
00:30:00,967 --> 00:30:02,547
Fucking A!
Ain't this the life, man?
519
00:30:04,387 --> 00:30:09,597
At the very beginning,
we all lived in one house.
520
00:30:10,143 --> 00:30:16,023
And Tom got the whole
living room as his effects room.
521
00:30:16,691 --> 00:30:20,991
Right from the beginning
he was unloading his stuff.
522
00:30:21,321 --> 00:30:23,571
He had as much stuff as
the camera department.
523
00:30:24,073 --> 00:30:25,583
Like what, pinhead?
524
00:30:25,825 --> 00:30:28,695
All these molds and this great stuff.
525
00:30:28,995 --> 00:30:32,285
He'd put all his stuff in
there and you're just like: "Cool!"
526
00:30:32,499 --> 00:30:34,709
He'd really been
thinking and working on it.
527
00:30:34,959 --> 00:30:37,129
And Sam rejected everything!
528
00:30:37,629 --> 00:30:39,089
Have you heard that story?
529
00:30:39,255 --> 00:30:42,465
He had a whole series
of designs and sketches.
530
00:30:43,009 --> 00:30:46,549
All the creatures were
based on woodland creatures.
531
00:30:46,846 --> 00:30:49,176
There was a wolf-like creature,
532
00:30:49,432 --> 00:30:51,482
an owl-like creature,
533
00:30:51,935 --> 00:30:54,595
for what the makeup effects
were going to be.
534
00:30:55,146 --> 00:30:57,766
I thought it was really cool.
535
00:30:57,982 --> 00:31:00,572
Very organic. But Sam went:
536
00:31:00,777 --> 00:31:03,737
"No... no... no... no...
537
00:31:03,738 --> 00:31:04,858
none of that."
538
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,080
It destroyed Tom
right from the beginning.
539
00:31:08,284 --> 00:31:13,374
I understand why he rejected it.
It was not his vision.
540
00:31:13,623 --> 00:31:17,793
We're supposed to start shooting
and he didn't have any designs.
541
00:31:18,586 --> 00:31:21,256
Unfortunately Sam can't draw.
542
00:31:21,464 --> 00:31:25,014
He had a vision but
how do you get it across?
543
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,600
From there on Tom
was trying to intuit
544
00:31:30,932 --> 00:31:32,932
what it was that Sam wanted.
545
00:31:33,101 --> 00:31:36,901
Without him being able
to say or draw anything.
546
00:31:37,105 --> 00:31:40,975
We we're all like:
"That's kind of cool...
547
00:31:41,276 --> 00:31:44,196
this all makes
perfect sense to me.
548
00:31:44,445 --> 00:31:45,695
What is it you
have got in mind, Sam?"
549
00:31:45,864 --> 00:31:47,534
"Don't know.
I'll let you know."
550
00:31:47,782 --> 00:31:53,162
It's like: "I'll make it.
If you don't like it I'll make it again. "
551
00:31:54,205 --> 00:31:57,455
So I designed it and
designed it again and again.
552
00:31:57,625 --> 00:31:59,625
Until I'd come up with
something he'd accept.
553
00:32:00,044 --> 00:32:03,844
But now we're under great
pressure because we're starting to shoot.
554
00:32:04,757 --> 00:32:07,677
So nothing like starting
off right in a panic.
555
00:32:08,011 --> 00:32:12,391
So Tom was on the firing line
from the second we got there.
556
00:32:13,057 --> 00:32:15,937
It set Tom off right from the first minute.
557
00:32:16,311 --> 00:32:19,151
He was the first guy
that got severely picked on.
558
00:32:20,189 --> 00:32:21,609
Then Tom went right to work.
559
00:32:21,816 --> 00:32:24,526
He went into overdrive right away.
560
00:32:44,672 --> 00:32:49,802
It was jumping in with both feet.
561
00:32:50,011 --> 00:32:53,141
We're all living in the
same house in Morristown.
562
00:32:53,473 --> 00:32:56,313
We arrived one night,
we all drove down,
563
00:32:56,809 --> 00:33:01,149
and one of the first things I
was hit with was your work room.
564
00:33:01,564 --> 00:33:06,534
When you came in, the
second room you walked through
565
00:33:06,694 --> 00:33:08,664
was Tom's magic lab.
566
00:33:08,947 --> 00:33:12,487
With all sorts of pieces and chemicals.
567
00:33:12,659 --> 00:33:15,949
All sorts of things I was
completely unfamiliar with.
568
00:33:16,788 --> 00:33:20,918
Part of the deal was:
He got his own pound of weed.
569
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:24,750
They never paid me anything with weed.
570
00:33:25,797 --> 00:33:27,127
A pound of weed would have been great
571
00:33:27,298 --> 00:33:29,758
because that would have been more
money than I earned on the film.
572
00:33:30,343 --> 00:33:35,013
I went down with a few
ounces of my personal weed.
573
00:33:35,181 --> 00:33:38,561
That was back when you could
get an ounce for 25 dollars.
574
00:33:38,851 --> 00:33:41,351
These were the 70s.
575
00:33:41,562 --> 00:33:43,192
Everybody was experimenting.
576
00:33:43,398 --> 00:33:45,188
Let me explain something, Sir...
577
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:48,650
the illegal substance
known as "Marijuana" was somehow,
578
00:33:49,153 --> 00:33:51,283
forced upon us in Tennessee.
579
00:33:53,825 --> 00:33:55,155
And I shared.
580
00:33:55,743 --> 00:33:59,543
We all were like: "Hey, Tom!
Can I have a joint?"
581
00:34:00,790 --> 00:34:01,920
He was the man!
582
00:34:02,083 --> 00:34:04,713
I was probably the only
one there that didn't smoke.
583
00:34:05,461 --> 00:34:09,221
I started off as a PA and worked
my way up to doing lighting and sound.
584
00:34:09,590 --> 00:34:13,640
You know where the trap door is?
I dug that hole!
585
00:34:13,970 --> 00:34:15,680
It took me days.
586
00:34:15,972 --> 00:34:19,062
Afterwards my hands were
blistered and I hated it.
587
00:34:19,434 --> 00:34:21,644
I went: "Let me help Tom!
588
00:34:22,854 --> 00:34:24,694
He's got the pound of weed!"
589
00:34:25,940 --> 00:34:28,530
I tried to be his
assistant as often as I could.
590
00:34:29,235 --> 00:34:32,695
I got to help you a
little bit in the first week.
591
00:34:33,031 --> 00:34:35,491
When we were doing driving stuff.
592
00:34:35,658 --> 00:34:38,578
I remember we were doing some
plaster casts and it was heating up.
593
00:34:39,454 --> 00:34:43,924
That was something I wasn't familiar with
594
00:34:44,125 --> 00:34:48,335
and didn't know as a part
of film making at that point.
595
00:34:49,422 --> 00:34:53,842
Somebody who visited the set of
"Book of the Dead"
596
00:34:54,635 --> 00:34:58,385
took a bunch of photos and
recently gave me the negatives.
597
00:34:59,307 --> 00:35:00,767
Can I see the little manila folder?
598
00:35:01,184 --> 00:35:04,274
- What does it say?
- It says "Book of the Dead".
599
00:35:05,938 --> 00:35:07,478
5/24/80.
600
00:35:08,816 --> 00:35:10,776
Here's a sneak peek
of some of the photos.
601
00:35:14,655 --> 00:35:17,445
Steve Frankel, Sam Raimi, Tim Philo,
602
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:19,369
Betsy Baker,
603
00:35:19,619 --> 00:35:22,579
a friend of hers and
the production assistant.
604
00:35:23,247 --> 00:35:27,457
That's me with the book of the
dead and the Kandarian dagger.
605
00:35:28,169 --> 00:35:29,959
A fake arm, Shelley's arm.
606
00:35:30,505 --> 00:35:33,465
Shelley's face and
another fake arm there.
607
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:36,930
A head stump.
608
00:35:37,386 --> 00:35:39,216
A younger, thinner, hairier me.
609
00:35:43,017 --> 00:35:45,137
Nice to document that part of it.
610
00:35:46,312 --> 00:35:47,482
Where are we going, Tom?
611
00:35:47,688 --> 00:35:53,778
To the Tapert family farm.
612
00:35:55,071 --> 00:35:58,621
South of Marshall, Michigan.
It's where we filmed "Within the Woods".
613
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,580
And parts of "The Evil Dead".
614
00:36:03,496 --> 00:36:08,126
Most notably the basement and
some of the graveyard stuff.
615
00:36:09,585 --> 00:36:14,255
Somewhere here we shot
Linda's decapitation.
616
00:36:14,257 --> 00:36:19,297
The head falls in the foreground
and her body falls on top of Ash,
617
00:36:19,762 --> 00:36:21,642
spewing blood into his face.
618
00:36:21,848 --> 00:36:23,888
Those shots were
made right in this area.
619
00:36:24,058 --> 00:36:26,888
Of course, it was all cut back then.
620
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,520
It changed quite a bit in the last 35 years.
621
00:36:33,526 --> 00:36:35,856
But it's still a great location.
622
00:36:56,549 --> 00:36:57,929
It's hot down here.
623
00:36:58,634 --> 00:37:00,144
This is where we shot the movie.
624
00:37:00,636 --> 00:37:01,596
Two of them:
625
00:37:01,762 --> 00:37:04,272
"Within the Woods" and
"The Evil Dead".
626
00:37:04,724 --> 00:37:08,394
I haven't been down
here since spring of 1980.
627
00:37:09,020 --> 00:37:11,150
When we were finishing up "The Evil Dead".
628
00:37:11,397 --> 00:37:14,027
We shot the basement scenes down here.
629
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,610
Sam did his 180-shot in this room.
630
00:37:17,820 --> 00:37:20,990
I mean his 360-shot.
631
00:37:21,824 --> 00:37:23,374
Right through that door,
632
00:37:23,701 --> 00:37:28,871
was where the ripped poster
of "The Hills have Eyes" was.
633
00:37:29,165 --> 00:37:34,205
I'm forever grateful for that.
634
00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:36,710
Being in the cabin in "The Evil Dead".
635
00:37:36,714 --> 00:37:41,594
'Cause when Wes did this
movie we had a "Jaws" poster.
636
00:37:41,761 --> 00:37:43,221
In the trailer.
637
00:37:43,387 --> 00:37:49,017
The directors were respecting one another
638
00:37:49,185 --> 00:37:51,145
putting their posters
in one another's films.
639
00:37:51,312 --> 00:37:53,652
A cool bit of trivia.
640
00:37:53,814 --> 00:37:55,694
We're here at the
"Little Dutch Restaurant".
641
00:37:56,025 --> 00:37:59,235
I've never eaten here.
But I'm about to for the first time.
642
00:37:59,528 --> 00:38:04,408
This is were Bruce and Ellen
ate when we made "The Evil Dead".
643
00:38:04,617 --> 00:38:08,247
They had their picture taken and
we're going to take a look at it.
644
00:38:08,496 --> 00:38:10,156
Right now... come on!
645
00:38:19,173 --> 00:38:20,223
Gary Holt.
646
00:38:22,802 --> 00:38:23,892
When was that?
647
00:38:25,763 --> 00:38:30,693
The Tennessee premiere was
held at the Capri theatre 1983.
648
00:38:33,396 --> 00:38:35,306
That's what this was...
649
00:38:36,232 --> 00:38:37,282
pretty cool.
650
00:38:38,317 --> 00:38:39,777
Fancy pants.
651
00:38:53,291 --> 00:38:54,671
Holy Jesus!
652
00:38:54,917 --> 00:38:56,667
This is "Evil Dead" country.
653
00:38:59,797 --> 00:39:01,717
I don't know.
654
00:39:01,966 --> 00:39:03,466
- I think we passed it.
- I think we did.
655
00:39:03,634 --> 00:39:05,434
I think we passed it.
656
00:39:06,304 --> 00:39:07,684
That's okay.
657
00:39:07,847 --> 00:39:09,217
Keep going on this.
658
00:39:11,726 --> 00:39:14,686
This was dirt back in
the day. As I recall.
659
00:39:16,689 --> 00:39:18,479
Tom, we are on an adventure, man!
660
00:39:19,483 --> 00:39:22,453
I've never driven roads
like this in Tennessee before.
661
00:39:24,530 --> 00:39:26,410
I tell you that.
662
00:39:27,116 --> 00:39:29,076
Let's hope nobody else
is coming down this trail.
663
00:39:32,079 --> 00:39:34,249
You know the "car on fire" story, right?
664
00:39:34,498 --> 00:39:36,498
Where your car caught on fire?
665
00:39:36,667 --> 00:39:37,997
No, somebody else's.
666
00:39:39,253 --> 00:39:40,593
That might be it.
667
00:39:40,963 --> 00:39:43,133
We're here in Morristown.
668
00:39:43,382 --> 00:39:49,102
This is where we all stayed
during the shoot of "Book of the Dead".
669
00:39:49,096 --> 00:39:50,176
Later called "The Evil Dead".
670
00:39:50,348 --> 00:39:52,808
- This is the house you slept at.
- It is.
671
00:39:55,603 --> 00:39:59,273
I slept in the front room.
I had a sleeping bag and an air mattress.
672
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:00,570
Like everybody else.
673
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:03,150
I think the ladies had a room.
674
00:40:03,486 --> 00:40:05,646
Somebody else had a room with a bed.
675
00:40:06,947 --> 00:40:09,197
Later I slept in the laundry room.
676
00:40:10,034 --> 00:40:11,584
Because all the guys snored.
677
00:40:11,911 --> 00:40:13,041
I do too.
678
00:40:13,287 --> 00:40:15,577
The original cabin is burned down.
679
00:40:15,915 --> 00:40:18,075
It's on private property
in Morristown, Tennessee.
680
00:40:18,501 --> 00:40:21,341
To not try and find the cabin.
681
00:40:21,587 --> 00:40:24,217
You will be shot in
the ass with buck shot.
682
00:40:25,091 --> 00:40:27,841
This is rural Tennessee... get off my...
683
00:40:28,886 --> 00:40:30,386
fucking properly!
684
00:40:31,138 --> 00:40:36,598
I have to tell the "Evil Dead" fans:
if you respect the film, respect the property.
685
00:40:36,977 --> 00:40:39,767
This is somebodies property and
we have permission to be here.
686
00:40:39,980 --> 00:40:42,980
If you don't you shouldn't
be walking on their land.
687
00:40:43,317 --> 00:40:45,857
- Why? Because they'll...?
- Because...
688
00:40:46,028 --> 00:40:47,858
they'll fill you full of buck shot.
689
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:52,949
I can't believe we're here.
690
00:40:55,413 --> 00:40:56,833
The roof?
691
00:40:57,998 --> 00:41:00,958
We are now where the cabin would be.
692
00:41:03,504 --> 00:41:06,384
Here is...
693
00:41:09,009 --> 00:41:10,969
what's left of the chimney.
694
00:41:14,306 --> 00:41:16,556
Looks like bits of the tin roof are still here.
695
00:41:22,982 --> 00:41:24,612
I'd like that to stop!
696
00:41:25,818 --> 00:41:27,488
And over here...
697
00:41:28,279 --> 00:41:32,199
somebody's figured out,
I don't know how close they are,
698
00:41:32,366 --> 00:41:35,826
but this would be were the pit was.
699
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:41,999
This is deeper than we made it.
700
00:41:42,626 --> 00:41:44,166
Josh Becker cut it.
701
00:41:44,378 --> 00:41:45,458
But it went down a bit
702
00:41:45,463 --> 00:41:47,803
and people would have to do this
when they were going down the steps.
703
00:41:48,841 --> 00:41:51,551
You'd have to scrunch
down to actually get there.
704
00:41:52,136 --> 00:41:54,806
I remember Ellen fell
backwards into it once.
705
00:41:55,097 --> 00:41:58,557
And I don't know how she
missed creaming the back of her head
706
00:41:58,559 --> 00:41:59,769
on the corner of the wood.
707
00:42:00,060 --> 00:42:02,100
That was frightening because she was blind.
708
00:42:02,521 --> 00:42:04,981
She had those contact lenses in.
709
00:42:05,316 --> 00:42:06,526
I was nervous about that.
710
00:42:06,734 --> 00:42:09,074
What do you think after
being here after how many years?
711
00:42:09,069 --> 00:42:11,319
32 years?
712
00:42:12,740 --> 00:42:14,580
It's amazing!
713
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:17,999
Like everything else...
it feels smaller.
714
00:42:20,122 --> 00:42:23,462
Tim Philo had drug a bunch
of flood lights out there
715
00:42:24,502 --> 00:42:26,132
hooked up to a generator.
716
00:42:29,256 --> 00:42:30,506
How about that?
717
00:42:30,841 --> 00:42:34,391
I'm Tom Sullivan, here at
a secret special location.
718
00:42:34,553 --> 00:42:37,063
This is where we shot the
finale of "The Evil Dead"
719
00:42:37,389 --> 00:42:39,099
it was in 1980.
720
00:42:39,266 --> 00:42:42,436
Bart Pierce and I spent
three months doing that shot,
721
00:42:42,770 --> 00:42:44,480
that sequence, one
frame at a time.
722
00:42:44,688 --> 00:42:50,318
Right here,
we shot the "head falling" scene.
723
00:42:50,486 --> 00:42:52,906
It went something like this...
724
00:42:57,785 --> 00:43:02,865
Back in August of 1980,
725
00:43:03,123 --> 00:43:05,633
we started filming the finale
sequence for "The Evil Dead".
726
00:43:06,001 --> 00:43:07,961
We shot a bunch of it
out here in the garage.
727
00:43:08,212 --> 00:43:10,672
And also in the
basement of this house.
728
00:43:11,006 --> 00:43:14,716
Right over here,
they had a cot.
729
00:43:15,302 --> 00:43:18,682
For about a month and a half
I slept on a cot right here.
730
00:43:19,390 --> 00:43:21,230
Really uncomfortable.
731
00:43:21,725 --> 00:43:24,805
I slept here.
732
00:43:25,145 --> 00:43:31,105
After a while it became...
733
00:43:31,277 --> 00:43:33,447
it was detrimental
to my good being.
734
00:43:35,447 --> 00:43:37,447
Bruce's family stepped forward
735
00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:40,370
and I got a spare room at
their house in Birmingham.
736
00:43:40,995 --> 00:43:45,955
So I got to stay with Chuck and Don.
737
00:43:46,166 --> 00:43:48,246
It was a great time.
They were terrific hosts.
738
00:43:48,669 --> 00:43:51,209
Anyway... thank you!
739
00:43:51,672 --> 00:43:53,762
When was the last time you were down here?
740
00:43:54,049 --> 00:43:59,309
The day before Thanksgiving 1980.
741
00:43:59,555 --> 00:44:00,805
That was my last day shooting.
742
00:44:01,056 --> 00:44:02,636
Did you ever think you'd come back here?
743
00:44:02,850 --> 00:44:04,350
Never.
744
00:44:04,518 --> 00:44:08,308
Everything's smaller than
you remember it. That's odd.
745
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,400
Very cool.
746
00:44:10,566 --> 00:44:12,316
I'm here at the Raimi house
747
00:44:12,526 --> 00:44:14,606
where we shot some
things for "The Evil Dead"
748
00:44:14,778 --> 00:44:18,118
including bullet hits,
hands and legs being chopped up,
749
00:44:18,115 --> 00:44:19,365
and things like that.
750
00:44:19,575 --> 00:44:21,035
I am very familiar
with this house.
751
00:44:21,243 --> 00:44:22,453
I came here a number of times.
752
00:44:22,620 --> 00:44:25,210
I saw "The Evil Dead" here with Sam.
753
00:44:25,414 --> 00:44:27,294
He showed it to his mom for the first time.
754
00:44:27,458 --> 00:44:29,538
That was quite an experience.
755
00:44:29,710 --> 00:44:32,130
This is where it happened.
756
00:44:32,129 --> 00:44:34,299
Sam shot a bunch of his
early Super 8 films here.
757
00:44:34,590 --> 00:44:38,390
His parents are just so great.
758
00:44:38,594 --> 00:44:40,724
Boy! If everybody could
have parents like Sam did.
759
00:44:41,055 --> 00:44:42,965
We'd all be super successful.
760
00:44:43,265 --> 00:44:47,345
They were so supportive
and wonderful and still are.
761
00:44:56,028 --> 00:44:58,108
Well, it's been 30 years.
762
00:44:58,489 --> 00:45:02,199
But I think it was in Morristown, Tennessee.
763
00:45:02,368 --> 00:45:03,908
That's where I met Tom.
764
00:45:04,244 --> 00:45:09,504
I didn't drive down with him.
He was on the set when I arrived.
765
00:45:09,833 --> 00:45:13,173
He was like our mom.
He took care of us.
766
00:45:13,420 --> 00:45:18,260
He was the only one to
care what happened to us.
767
00:45:18,509 --> 00:45:20,049
He was just amazing.
768
00:45:20,427 --> 00:45:28,097
Trough all those years he really kept
those stories of "The Evil Dead" going.
769
00:45:28,394 --> 00:45:31,194
He seems to remember all the details.
770
00:45:31,814 --> 00:45:36,404
And all his drawings and
artworks that were so important.
771
00:45:36,652 --> 00:45:38,612
In "The Evil Dead".
772
00:45:38,904 --> 00:45:44,994
His eye and his taste had a lot
to do with the look of the film.
773
00:45:45,244 --> 00:45:48,874
"Onward, Tom!"
...is what I say.
774
00:45:49,415 --> 00:45:51,035
No horror stories about Tom!
775
00:45:51,250 --> 00:45:53,460
He was our protector on the set.
776
00:45:53,669 --> 00:45:55,089
He really was.
777
00:45:55,921 --> 00:45:58,301
He was always apologetic
778
00:45:58,632 --> 00:46:01,182
because he was admittedly
not a makeup artist,
779
00:46:01,385 --> 00:46:02,465
he was an artist-artist.
780
00:46:02,761 --> 00:46:07,271
He was doing things on our
faces he was always apologizing for.
781
00:46:09,727 --> 00:46:13,857
We loved Tom. He was always
there to see if we are okay.
782
00:46:14,189 --> 00:46:15,729
He was our protector.
783
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,110
I'm Betsy Baker and I was lucky
enough to work with Tom Sullivan
784
00:46:20,112 --> 00:46:24,122
in the original, the one and only,
and the best "The Evil Dead".
785
00:46:24,533 --> 00:46:28,163
We met early on,
I think during rehearsals.
786
00:46:28,495 --> 00:46:33,205
He was making or helping us make
plaster masks and molds of our faces.
787
00:46:33,709 --> 00:46:37,499
And we spent a lot of
time intimately together
788
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,380
while I laid there
quietly and probably fell asleep
789
00:46:41,592 --> 00:46:45,392
while he painted the
spider web effects on my leg.
790
00:46:45,596 --> 00:46:48,556
I think Tom's one of
the sweetest guys around.
791
00:46:48,807 --> 00:46:52,387
He's tremendously talented and creative.
792
00:46:52,728 --> 00:46:55,438
He's wonderful to all the fans.
793
00:46:55,731 --> 00:46:57,361
He's just a great guy.
794
00:46:57,691 --> 00:46:59,651
You're a great guy, Tom.
What can I say?
795
00:47:28,472 --> 00:47:29,932
So? That's the original shotgun?
796
00:47:30,182 --> 00:47:34,272
The original one from "The Evil Dead".
797
00:47:36,730 --> 00:47:38,190
That's a big deal!
798
00:47:38,398 --> 00:47:41,188
I think they used this one
in "Striker's World" also.
799
00:47:41,401 --> 00:47:43,741
- You want to do any Bruce-lines?
- No!
800
00:47:46,281 --> 00:47:48,241
It's not my boom stick.
801
00:47:48,617 --> 00:47:49,697
Tell me your name, Sir!
802
00:47:49,952 --> 00:47:51,702
This is Don Campbell.
803
00:47:52,246 --> 00:47:53,826
Live from his house.
804
00:47:54,373 --> 00:47:56,423
Tom is a funny guy.
805
00:47:56,625 --> 00:47:58,665
A great makeup artist.
806
00:47:58,961 --> 00:48:00,921
And he's pretty much unflappable.
807
00:48:01,380 --> 00:48:05,680
We went trough all kinds of
craziness down in Morristown, Tennessee.
808
00:48:06,635 --> 00:48:08,925
But he never got worked up.
809
00:48:09,179 --> 00:48:12,019
He looked like he lived in that house for years.
810
00:48:12,307 --> 00:48:18,107
He was like an island, we were
the current that flowed around him.
811
00:48:18,605 --> 00:48:20,015
He was the rock.
812
00:48:20,190 --> 00:48:24,440
Tom Sullivan you are responsible for a
very large part of the physical horror.
813
00:48:24,736 --> 00:48:28,946
And on the table here are
heaped dreadful stumps, legs,
814
00:48:29,241 --> 00:48:31,371
distorted hands
815
00:48:31,618 --> 00:48:34,748
and there's an eyeball
here with an optic nerve dangling from it.
816
00:48:34,997 --> 00:48:36,537
We have here a leg.
817
00:48:36,790 --> 00:48:41,550
And even knowing that it's made of foam rubber,
it's very offensive, very unpleasant.
818
00:48:41,837 --> 00:48:45,507
And this looks like a piece of flesh
lifted off someone's face. What is this?
819
00:48:45,674 --> 00:48:49,184
It's a latex rubber mask.
820
00:48:50,137 --> 00:48:52,217
And before we move away
from this revolting heap,
821
00:48:52,598 --> 00:48:55,928
this I think is the piéce
de résistance. What is this?
822
00:48:56,226 --> 00:49:00,106
It's another foam
rubber piece of an eyeball.
823
00:49:00,272 --> 00:49:01,522
With an optic nerve.
824
00:49:01,773 --> 00:49:05,073
- It's...
- Dangling out the back.
825
00:49:05,319 --> 00:49:08,949
This would be for someone
with a terrible eye accident.
826
00:49:09,781 --> 00:49:13,041
How does a pleasant
young man like yourself
827
00:49:13,327 --> 00:49:15,367
come to be a master of macabre?
828
00:49:15,579 --> 00:49:18,749
I happen to have a background in art.
829
00:49:20,208 --> 00:49:23,048
My two creative passions
in life are art and film.
830
00:49:23,378 --> 00:49:27,548
I've been ping ponging back
and forth through my life.
831
00:49:27,716 --> 00:49:31,216
I'd work on a film like "The Evil Dead"
and then go into illustration.
832
00:49:31,428 --> 00:49:32,928
Then work on "The Evil Dead 2".
833
00:49:33,138 --> 00:49:34,508
Then back to illustration.
834
00:49:34,514 --> 00:49:35,564
It's been kind like that.
835
00:49:35,807 --> 00:49:38,387
Let me share with you
some of my artworks.
836
00:49:38,685 --> 00:49:41,685
Most people know my "The Evil Dead" work.
837
00:49:41,897 --> 00:49:45,107
I illustrated the book of the
dead for "The Evil Dead 1+2"
838
00:49:45,275 --> 00:49:47,185
And for "The Army of Darkness",
839
00:49:47,569 --> 00:49:50,279
and as well as the lost
pages in "The Evil Dead 2".
840
00:49:50,530 --> 00:49:54,450
Apart from my "The Evil Dead" stuff,
I worked for Chaosium Incorporated.
841
00:49:54,868 --> 00:49:57,288
They did the "Call of Cthulhu" RPG books.
842
00:49:57,537 --> 00:49:59,617
I illustrated these books for 18 years.
843
00:49:59,873 --> 00:50:01,043
It's kind of neat.
844
00:50:01,750 --> 00:50:04,750
Because fans of "The Evil Dead"
come to see my on conventions.
845
00:50:05,003 --> 00:50:07,673
They are like: "Hey! I got that book!
You did that too?"
846
00:50:07,923 --> 00:50:09,053
Yes, I did!
847
00:50:09,383 --> 00:50:11,593
This is my first cover I did for Chaosium.
848
00:50:12,094 --> 00:50:15,224
I was watching "South Park".
849
00:50:15,597 --> 00:50:17,557
They had a great three part episode with
850
00:50:17,849 --> 00:50:20,479
Eric Cartman becoming
best buddies with Cthulhu.
851
00:50:24,439 --> 00:50:31,819
In the third episode Eric has Cthulhu
sent his buddies Kyle, Stan and the gang
852
00:50:32,072 --> 00:50:33,992
to the Nether Realms.
853
00:50:34,324 --> 00:50:36,494
And there seemed to be a
design that looked a lot like this.
854
00:50:36,910 --> 00:50:42,670
It repeats a couple shots later
in the Necronomicon illustration.
855
00:50:43,166 --> 00:50:47,296
If I had influenced
that I couldn't be more proud.
856
00:50:47,462 --> 00:50:48,842
That's very cool!
857
00:50:49,214 --> 00:50:55,974
Tom did this piece in 1976,
for my 11th birthday or so.
858
00:50:59,641 --> 00:51:02,061
That's my dad as Silky Sullivan.
859
00:51:05,939 --> 00:51:09,569
This was done as a request.
860
00:51:10,318 --> 00:51:11,568
For an animal.
861
00:51:11,903 --> 00:51:14,243
Sort of a loan tree...
this one's gorgeous.
862
00:51:14,823 --> 00:51:20,753
This is like a nasty storm
coming on in the natural scene.
863
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:23,249
This one hangs up in our bedroom.
864
00:51:32,466 --> 00:51:36,466
Wait! There's a small one.
865
00:51:37,345 --> 00:51:40,215
This one resides in our restroom.
866
00:51:40,682 --> 00:51:42,432
Let me find the one with the squirrel.
867
00:51:42,768 --> 00:51:44,268
This is from 1978.
868
00:51:44,561 --> 00:51:46,771
So he'd be what...?
869
00:51:48,857 --> 00:51:50,107
- 29?
- 24?
870
00:51:50,358 --> 00:51:51,608
24.
871
00:51:52,277 --> 00:51:53,397
I am very proud of this one.
872
00:51:53,737 --> 00:51:56,987
S. Petersons
"Field Guide to Cthulhu Monsters".
873
00:51:57,574 --> 00:51:58,664
I illustrated this.
874
00:51:58,909 --> 00:52:03,209
This is 26 of the most
commonly seen Preternatural Entities.
875
00:52:06,083 --> 00:52:09,803
This is one of the game books
for the "Call of Cthulhu" RPG... my illustration.
876
00:52:10,170 --> 00:52:13,880
The French version of one of my book covers.
877
00:52:14,132 --> 00:52:15,592
A cover I did for Chaosium.
878
00:52:15,842 --> 00:52:17,892
This the American version of "The Asylum".
879
00:52:18,303 --> 00:52:20,813
This is the French version of
the "Masques of Nyarlathotep."
880
00:52:22,933 --> 00:52:27,193
Another thing I did for Chaosium.
It's for a game.
881
00:52:27,938 --> 00:52:32,108
Here's "Power Comics" #2.
882
00:52:32,359 --> 00:52:36,199
This would be 1975 or 1976.
883
00:52:36,822 --> 00:52:37,992
1977!
884
00:52:38,532 --> 00:52:42,042
"Figure of Mystery"... T. Casey Brennan's
a real person, a writer.
885
00:52:42,369 --> 00:52:46,119
He looks nothing like this...
I did my best.
886
00:52:46,623 --> 00:52:48,293
Looking back,
it's pretty horrible.
887
00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:50,420
Mike Vosberg helped me out with the girls.
888
00:52:50,669 --> 00:52:54,169
There was an underground
comic with some beavers in it
889
00:52:54,381 --> 00:52:57,051
and they made fun of this story.
890
00:52:57,634 --> 00:53:01,054
It's just kind of the dregs.
891
00:53:01,471 --> 00:53:03,561
I can't really disagree with them.
892
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:06,310
What can I say?
893
00:53:06,518 --> 00:53:09,978
- You could say you did it.
- I did it and I stuck with it.
894
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,030
The pinch mark?
I showed you already, right?
895
00:53:14,359 --> 00:53:16,399
You see that bruise?
896
00:53:17,737 --> 00:53:20,067
Sam Raimi gave that to
me a couple of days ago.
897
00:53:20,323 --> 00:53:22,203
I haven't seen him in years.
898
00:53:22,409 --> 00:53:24,159
And he pinched me
as hard as he could.
899
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,210
Which only goes to show he likes me.
900
00:53:30,542 --> 00:53:32,292
Boy! This thing stinks...
901
00:53:33,670 --> 00:53:34,840
doesn't it?
902
00:53:35,213 --> 00:53:36,763
Tom put a lot of work in that.
903
00:53:36,965 --> 00:53:38,715
And then over and over re-applying it.
904
00:53:39,092 --> 00:53:40,722
Does it fit after all these years?
905
00:53:40,969 --> 00:53:42,469
I guess we're trying to find out?
906
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:45,350
He's like: "You really want
me to put this on again... "
907
00:53:45,682 --> 00:53:47,312
Let's find out!
908
00:53:48,059 --> 00:53:49,639
Perfect fit!
909
00:53:52,689 --> 00:53:53,649
Perfect fit!
910
00:54:00,030 --> 00:54:01,660
Go ahead, gouge my eyes.
I'm ready.
911
00:54:03,074 --> 00:54:05,294
Oh shit.
912
00:54:05,869 --> 00:54:08,329
That's my head.
It's me.
913
00:54:08,622 --> 00:54:11,332
It fits... if the fu shits.
914
00:54:16,296 --> 00:54:18,216
Here's the big trivia:
915
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,130
These are the original "The Evil Dead" keys
916
00:54:21,551 --> 00:54:25,221
that Ellen dropped by the front door.
917
00:54:27,015 --> 00:54:29,765
And Bruce goes".
"You should give him those keys!"
918
00:54:30,101 --> 00:54:33,981
"No, no! Sam could buy those keys."
919
00:54:34,773 --> 00:54:36,523
I'm pretty sure he can afford them.
920
00:54:38,276 --> 00:54:40,606
How long has it been since
you have seen that thing?
921
00:54:41,154 --> 00:54:43,034
Well, I've seen it a few times.
922
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:47,580
But the last time I touched it
was like 30 years ago.
923
00:54:48,912 --> 00:54:51,752
And it looks like I need a pedicure.
924
00:54:55,210 --> 00:54:58,170
Here's a leg up to you, buddy!
925
00:55:01,132 --> 00:55:05,352
Feminine though, small
dainty feet, loose ankles...
926
00:55:06,513 --> 00:55:08,013
This is gross!
927
00:55:08,223 --> 00:55:11,233
I've kind of blocked it out.
928
00:55:11,559 --> 00:55:14,059
How does it go?
Like this?
929
00:55:14,562 --> 00:55:16,062
I don't even know.
930
00:55:16,481 --> 00:55:18,781
- You don't have to put it on.
- Yeah, I don't know.
931
00:55:19,234 --> 00:55:20,654
I just wanted to see you with it.
932
00:55:21,695 --> 00:55:23,855
I think it goes right here.
933
00:55:30,954 --> 00:55:34,964
Wow! This is a first draft.
934
00:55:35,250 --> 00:55:38,170
This is different than
what finally was there.
935
00:55:38,837 --> 00:55:42,167
Did you write in this?
Is this yours?
936
00:55:42,757 --> 00:55:44,297
- Oh, no!
- I don't know who wrote in it.
937
00:55:45,552 --> 00:55:47,352
It might be Rob.
938
00:55:47,762 --> 00:55:49,222
You've got something no one's got.
939
00:55:49,472 --> 00:55:50,932
That's very cool.
940
00:55:51,182 --> 00:55:53,562
This was given to me many moons ago
941
00:55:53,727 --> 00:55:55,347
when I first met Sam.
942
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,320
He wanted to know what
I thought of the script.
943
00:55:59,441 --> 00:56:01,481
I told him I'd read it.
944
00:56:02,027 --> 00:56:03,647
Before "The Evil Dead"...
945
00:56:04,446 --> 00:56:06,606
that's all I got!
946
00:56:07,073 --> 00:56:09,203
They got the movie,
I got this button.
947
00:56:15,498 --> 00:56:17,958
What do you got here, Tom.
I just found something.
948
00:56:18,126 --> 00:56:20,706
This is... I didn't know that I had this.
949
00:56:21,004 --> 00:56:24,264
This is the cover and I think
the other piece is here somewhere.
950
00:56:24,799 --> 00:56:30,679
This is a casting of the
original book of the dead cover.
951
00:56:31,348 --> 00:56:34,428
Something I didn't
know I had even done.
952
00:56:35,518 --> 00:56:38,188
Found it... and that's what it is.
953
00:56:40,357 --> 00:56:42,397
Something for the replicas.
954
00:56:42,734 --> 00:56:45,704
We'll get this other
piece and extend it out.
955
00:56:46,696 --> 00:56:48,566
This is the original book of the dead.
956
00:56:48,948 --> 00:56:50,278
From "The Evil Dead".
957
00:56:55,955 --> 00:56:57,825
A loving tribute to Sam Raimi.
958
00:57:04,839 --> 00:57:07,469
- That's the original-original?
- It is.
959
00:57:07,926 --> 00:57:09,796
And the cover melted off what year?
960
00:57:10,053 --> 00:57:13,853
Years ago. I still got it,
but it's just turned to glop.
961
00:57:13,848 --> 00:57:15,388
Where is it?
962
00:57:16,434 --> 00:57:18,904
This is what's left of the original cover.
963
00:57:19,104 --> 00:57:20,814
This is the front cover,
here's the back cover.
964
00:57:21,981 --> 00:57:25,861
- Really? It looks different.
- Yeah, it turned to glop.
965
00:57:27,195 --> 00:57:29,775
- Latex just breaks down.
- I cannot see the face.
966
00:57:30,115 --> 00:57:32,695
Here's the mouth... there's one eye,
there's another eye.
967
00:57:34,911 --> 00:57:37,081
There is no ear on the back cover.
968
00:57:37,497 --> 00:57:38,787
I did that for the Anchor Bay thing.
969
00:57:39,082 --> 00:57:42,962
Everybody had to put
everything they got into these movies.
970
00:57:43,169 --> 00:57:44,709
Creatively and physically.
971
00:57:44,879 --> 00:57:45,919
I think it shows.
972
00:57:46,172 --> 00:57:50,302
If you add up all the pieces and
the effect sequence at the end,
973
00:57:51,136 --> 00:57:52,756
which was pretty unprecedented too.
974
00:57:53,179 --> 00:57:55,889
What you guys did,
what you and Bart Pierce did
975
00:57:56,433 --> 00:57:58,393
in the basement over
those three month...
976
00:57:58,601 --> 00:58:00,651
you accomplished a lot of crazy stuff.
977
00:58:00,979 --> 00:58:03,269
I remember one story.
978
00:58:03,648 --> 00:58:05,818
We were in a little town...
979
00:58:05,817 --> 00:58:07,687
Wait? Who are you?
980
00:58:07,944 --> 00:58:11,744
I'm Bart Pierce.
I'm responsible for Tom.
981
00:58:13,616 --> 00:58:16,486
Let me explain: This is
the amazing Bart Pierce.
982
00:58:16,744 --> 00:58:20,044
If you've seen the clay animation
stop motion finale in "The Evil Dead",
983
00:58:20,415 --> 00:58:24,625
Bart and I spent three month
putting this sucker together.
984
00:58:24,919 --> 00:58:27,459
It was the best creative
collaboration I've ever had.
985
00:58:28,506 --> 00:58:29,876
He's a genius!
986
00:58:30,175 --> 00:58:37,555
As Tom has told me, it was one of the
more pleasant working relationships.
987
00:58:37,974 --> 00:58:41,904
We had more time,
which was really great
988
00:58:42,145 --> 00:58:44,765
when you're trying to create something new.
989
00:58:45,064 --> 00:58:46,904
And we were.
990
00:58:48,485 --> 00:58:51,145
We used techniques that we
were in one sense tried and true.
991
00:58:51,446 --> 00:58:53,356
But we were using them in a new way.
992
00:58:53,865 --> 00:58:58,285
It was great that we had no
problem working together.
993
00:58:58,536 --> 00:59:00,036
We would laugh.
994
00:59:00,246 --> 00:59:03,456
And I was blown away by his artwork.
995
00:59:03,917 --> 00:59:05,957
His enthusiasm was wonderful.
996
00:59:06,252 --> 00:59:09,632
He was always like:
"Let's do it harder! "
997
00:59:09,881 --> 00:59:12,431
I was the dry one:
998
00:59:12,634 --> 00:59:16,684
"Tom? I don't know if we can do this!"
999
00:59:17,138 --> 00:59:18,558
But we always had time.
1000
00:59:18,932 --> 00:59:21,392
Time made it possible to do things
1001
00:59:21,726 --> 00:59:23,476
that would have been
difficult otherwise.
1002
00:59:23,811 --> 00:59:26,061
It was a lot of fun and we were young.
1003
00:59:26,272 --> 00:59:29,482
We didn't have anything except
our passion for what we were doing.
1004
00:59:30,068 --> 00:59:33,238
It was a wonderful time.
1005
00:59:33,530 --> 00:59:34,700
I had a great time.
1006
00:59:34,864 --> 00:59:36,954
We tortured each other terribly.
1007
00:59:39,536 --> 00:59:41,036
I think we succeeded.
1008
00:59:41,704 --> 00:59:44,214
Thanks, Tom! I appreciate it.
1009
00:59:48,378 --> 00:59:51,458
I remember that the agent said,
1010
00:59:51,798 --> 00:59:55,678
when they brought it to
them for the first time:
1011
00:59:55,927 --> 00:59:57,177
"Too literary."
1012
00:59:57,637 --> 00:59:59,467
Which was because it had "book" in the title.
1013
01:00:00,765 --> 01:00:03,425
- Yeah, there was "book" in the title.
- Amazing!
1014
01:00:03,810 --> 01:00:06,560
I remember when we found out
that it was called "The Evil Dead",
1015
01:00:07,313 --> 01:00:09,233
we said". "Sam sold out."
1016
01:00:09,607 --> 01:00:12,527
I thought it was just a
stupid non-sense word.
1017
01:00:12,527 --> 01:00:13,647
It didn't mean anything.
1018
01:00:13,861 --> 01:00:15,821
And it's iconic today.
1019
01:00:16,155 --> 01:00:18,405
Don't come to me for title suggestions.
1020
01:00:23,454 --> 01:00:27,504
You guys accomplished a lot of
crazy stuff in that basement.
1021
01:00:28,251 --> 01:00:31,421
Which makes for a
memorable ending in the movie.
1022
01:00:31,796 --> 01:00:33,126
It was a different
sort of thing to happen,
1023
01:00:33,423 --> 01:00:35,133
it became way more fantastical.
1024
01:00:35,508 --> 01:00:38,468
It's no normal horror movie.
"The Evil Dead" is weird.
1025
01:00:39,053 --> 01:00:40,473
It's a little more mystical.
1026
01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:44,429
You also had that great idea
1027
01:00:44,684 --> 01:00:47,314
to double expose every
frame which kind of softened...
1028
01:00:47,854 --> 01:00:49,654
- The half-frame animation.
- Yeah, half-frame animation.
1029
01:00:49,856 --> 01:00:51,766
It kind of softened the animation.
1030
01:00:52,066 --> 01:00:56,066
When I tell people we shot
double exposed every frame,
1031
01:00:56,446 --> 01:00:57,656
it flips them out.
1032
01:00:57,905 --> 01:01:00,575
Most of our shots
were three exposures.
1033
01:01:00,950 --> 01:01:02,830
Anything that had animation in it
1034
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:04,999
was mostly three exposures.
1035
01:01:05,330 --> 01:01:09,210
Tom Philo doubles for
Scotty's arm in one shot.
1036
01:01:09,417 --> 01:01:13,087
We matted his head out and I
did a skull animation for that.
1037
01:01:13,379 --> 01:01:16,969
His back was one of
the mannequin bodies,
1038
01:01:17,175 --> 01:01:19,175
we cut a big section out.
1039
01:01:19,344 --> 01:01:22,184
We had garbage bags
underneath it with all the guts,
1040
01:01:22,388 --> 01:01:25,678
they were tapped around
my arms in the gloves.
1041
01:01:25,892 --> 01:01:29,732
And if I pushed my hands up,
the guts would rise to the top.
1042
01:01:30,021 --> 01:01:33,321
I'd had my hands full of them
and I'd throw the guts around.
1043
01:01:33,566 --> 01:01:37,026
I had the shoe there and
my hand went down the pants,
1044
01:01:37,236 --> 01:01:40,066
and we had the scored thing
and I had my hands full of guts.
1045
01:01:40,323 --> 01:01:42,873
I just plopped it out like that.
1046
01:01:43,409 --> 01:01:46,699
Sam turns and starts
talking casual to Rob:
1047
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:48,160
"You know what I think?"
1048
01:01:48,373 --> 01:01:51,333
Then he splashes all of
his dog food in Bruce's face.
1049
01:01:52,043 --> 01:01:54,593
And Bruce responds just like he
didn't know he was getting it.
1050
01:01:56,339 --> 01:01:59,379
Great reaction,
not even acting.
1051
01:02:01,678 --> 01:02:04,258
He's like: "This guy's really important.
I'm talking to my buddy. "
1052
01:02:04,639 --> 01:02:07,599
Then he splashes him in the face.
Such a great moment!
1053
01:02:08,643 --> 01:02:10,483
That's great. I didn't know that.
1054
01:02:22,115 --> 01:02:24,525
- They clay thing?
- Yeah, the clay thing.
1055
01:02:24,826 --> 01:02:28,536
Did I tell you that? I was
walking out of the premiere of "Maniac"
1056
01:02:28,788 --> 01:02:32,288
and those two kids walk up to me,
with suits and ties and briefcases.
1057
01:02:32,458 --> 01:02:35,168
"We're doing this movie.
We're editing it right upstairs."
1058
01:02:35,420 --> 01:02:36,960
They took me upstairs,
1059
01:02:37,296 --> 01:02:39,666
me and Bill Lustig,
the director of "Maniac".
1060
01:02:39,966 --> 01:02:42,676
And on the movieola we're
watching this clay disintegration thing.
1061
01:02:42,885 --> 01:02:43,885
That was pretty cool!
1062
01:02:44,137 --> 01:02:48,467
And it was Sam Raimi, I guess,
and the other guy was Rob Tapert.
1063
01:02:49,892 --> 01:02:52,562
So, that was your stuff.
1064
01:02:53,187 --> 01:02:54,977
I thought that was cool.
1065
01:03:21,632 --> 01:03:24,842
I'm in Detroit in front of the Redford Theatre.
1066
01:03:25,178 --> 01:03:29,218
Here, in 1981, "The Evil Dead"
premiered for the first time.
1067
01:03:29,682 --> 01:03:32,062
At that time it was called
"Book of the Dead".
1068
01:03:33,519 --> 01:03:35,099
I was posted on that marquee.
1069
01:03:35,438 --> 01:03:37,058
A really exciting time.
1070
01:03:37,273 --> 01:03:40,823
I made a poster for it
because I thought we needed one.
1071
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:46,240
It was on a big 20x30
board painted out of guash.
1072
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:47,280
It was a lot of fun.
1073
01:03:47,617 --> 01:03:48,737
It's called "Book of the Dead"
and it had a book on the cover.
1074
01:03:48,951 --> 01:03:50,831
You'll see a picture of it.
1075
01:03:51,287 --> 01:03:54,367
Let's go inside to see
how things have changed.
1076
01:04:09,430 --> 01:04:11,310
That's good popcorn.
1077
01:04:12,350 --> 01:04:18,900
1981 "The Book of the Dead"
premiered here at Redford Theatre.
1078
01:04:19,482 --> 01:04:20,782
How do you feel about...
1079
01:04:21,067 --> 01:04:24,147
Tom's got great recognition
for the "The Evil Dead" movie.
1080
01:04:24,862 --> 01:04:27,782
How did you feel about
that when it all started?
1081
01:04:30,201 --> 01:04:33,201
The movie terrified me.
It was scary.
1082
01:04:33,538 --> 01:04:36,668
We went to Detroit for the premier.
1083
01:04:37,083 --> 01:04:39,883
In the middle of the theatre
while the movie was on,
1084
01:04:40,086 --> 01:04:43,416
Tom knew I was having a
problem with some of the scenes.
1085
01:04:44,382 --> 01:04:47,512
My husband touched my shoulder.
1086
01:04:47,718 --> 01:04:50,718
It's a wonder I didn't
go through the ceiling.
1087
01:04:51,472 --> 01:04:53,272
This really freaked me out.
1088
01:04:54,684 --> 01:04:57,104
And then we got
out front afterwards
1089
01:04:57,270 --> 01:04:59,810
and they had the keg lights,
2am in the morning you know.
1090
01:05:00,189 --> 01:05:01,899
Showing all this stuff.
1091
01:05:03,985 --> 01:05:07,405
Some woman, who's
probably close to my age now,
1092
01:05:07,989 --> 01:05:10,409
came by and some old man said:
1093
01:05:10,616 --> 01:05:12,196
"What's going on here?"
1094
01:05:12,618 --> 01:05:17,038
And she said: "You've missed it!
The best movie I've seen in my life!"
1095
01:05:21,294 --> 01:05:23,844
We got a big kick out of that.
1096
01:05:24,338 --> 01:05:26,128
How many times have
you seen "The Evil Dead"?
1097
01:05:26,716 --> 01:05:28,966
- That's the only time.
- The only time!
1098
01:05:29,844 --> 01:05:32,854
After the premier, Penny
and I moved out to California,
1099
01:05:33,598 --> 01:05:36,598
and lived in San Francisco.
1100
01:05:37,018 --> 01:05:41,808
We took over my sister's place
while she went to Greece for six month.
1101
01:05:42,231 --> 01:05:45,361
So it got us a foothold and we
could find some jobs and things.
1102
01:05:45,902 --> 01:05:49,782
I got a job at the Aviva art department.
1103
01:05:50,156 --> 01:05:53,406
I'd say: "I'm an artist!
I worked on a movie."
1104
01:05:53,826 --> 01:05:55,536
"Really? When
is it coming out?"
1105
01:05:55,703 --> 01:06:00,423
I had no idea. But it took about
three years for the film to come out.
1106
01:06:00,917 --> 01:06:03,337
It was exciting when it did.
1107
01:06:03,336 --> 01:06:06,046
I could go to Market Street
in San Francisco
1108
01:06:06,297 --> 01:06:10,587
to those great old
theatres there and watch it
1109
01:06:10,927 --> 01:06:13,797
and just watch audiences
erupt when they saw it.
1110
01:06:14,263 --> 01:06:16,143
It's like nothing I've ever seen before.
1111
01:06:19,602 --> 01:06:20,942
What did this?
1112
01:06:20,937 --> 01:06:22,397
Whatever it is...
it's still down there.
1113
01:06:24,482 --> 01:06:26,532
Scott? Scotty?
1114
01:06:26,859 --> 01:06:29,449
Look what I found!
1115
01:06:30,738 --> 01:06:32,778
Turn it off!
1116
01:06:32,990 --> 01:06:34,870
Why have you disturbed us?
1117
01:06:35,034 --> 01:06:37,294
You will die.
1118
01:06:38,746 --> 01:06:41,206
You just don't know
when you take it to far!
1119
01:06:43,042 --> 01:06:45,002
Hit her! Hit it!
1120
01:06:47,505 --> 01:06:49,045
I'm leaving right now.
1121
01:06:51,467 --> 01:06:54,137
It won't let us leave!
1122
01:07:15,908 --> 01:07:17,368
After "The Evil Dead" was released,
1123
01:07:17,660 --> 01:07:20,330
I got called to do some
press and things for it.
1124
01:07:20,621 --> 01:07:22,041
They sold it to England.
1125
01:07:22,248 --> 01:07:27,288
Steven Wooley of Palace Video
invited us over.
1126
01:07:27,795 --> 01:07:30,295
That was a big cool deal.
1127
01:07:30,798 --> 01:07:37,808
A year later Sam,
Rob, Ted and I were
1128
01:07:38,055 --> 01:07:41,595
invited to a film festival in Belgium.
1129
01:07:45,604 --> 01:07:51,864
1985, Penny and I were
invited to Japan, to Tokyo.
1130
01:07:52,278 --> 01:07:55,818
At the 5th floor of the TOHO building.
1131
01:07:56,365 --> 01:07:57,735
There was a big department store.
1132
01:07:57,908 --> 01:08:00,908
They took over the whole 5th floor
and turned it into a horror museum.
1133
01:08:01,412 --> 01:08:03,292
Bob Burns was there.
1134
01:08:03,456 --> 01:08:06,536
And the guy who did the special
effects for "The Fly", Chris Walas,
1135
01:08:07,209 --> 01:08:09,549
was there with his wife.
1136
01:08:09,879 --> 01:08:12,009
Bob brought his props.
1137
01:08:12,173 --> 01:08:14,013
There's Bob and Cathy Burns.
1138
01:08:15,259 --> 01:08:17,139
Here're some of his props.
1139
01:08:17,678 --> 01:08:22,348
He's famous for being the owner of
the remaining "King Kong" armature.
1140
01:08:22,767 --> 01:08:26,647
Chris had worked on
"Gremlins" and "Enemy Mine"
1141
01:08:26,937 --> 01:08:27,897
and a number of things.
1142
01:08:28,189 --> 01:08:29,729
He'd brought his stuff.
1143
01:08:29,982 --> 01:08:32,442
I had props, replicas made of my things.
1144
01:08:32,860 --> 01:08:34,700
They were all on display there.
1145
01:08:35,029 --> 01:08:37,949
Once again, it was a spectacular time.
1146
01:08:38,491 --> 01:08:43,001
I gave some seminars and talks.
I had an interpreter.
1147
01:08:43,496 --> 01:08:46,116
I gave some talks on
special effects and things.
1148
01:08:46,332 --> 01:08:49,672
They were so popular
and had such long lines
1149
01:08:49,877 --> 01:08:53,167
that they doubled my
number of appearances.
1150
01:08:53,631 --> 01:08:56,801
In exchange they gave
us a beautiful trip out
1151
01:08:57,009 --> 01:08:59,099
to the Hakoni country
side on a bullet train.
1152
01:08:59,553 --> 01:09:01,853
It was terrific.
1153
01:09:02,139 --> 01:09:07,599
They took good care of us.
A very memorable time.
1154
01:09:13,651 --> 01:09:16,401
Let's drop on and see what happens.
1155
01:09:34,171 --> 01:09:36,011
Oh! Great!
1156
01:09:36,590 --> 01:09:39,800
Fucking A!
"The Evil Dead 2" test footage.
1157
01:09:39,969 --> 01:09:41,929
Wait! You're jammed up.
1158
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:43,760
- Really?
- Yeah.
1159
01:09:46,142 --> 01:09:48,102
Scream that one more time.
1160
01:09:50,729 --> 01:09:58,989
It was early in... no!
It was late 1984.
1161
01:10:00,030 --> 01:10:01,620
"The Evil Dead 2".
1162
01:10:02,700 --> 01:10:07,200
Month before, I got a call from Sam
that "Evil Dead 2" was going to happen.
1163
01:10:07,746 --> 01:10:11,496
He wanted me to come
to LA and talk about it.
1164
01:10:11,709 --> 01:10:13,169
It needed a budget.
1165
01:10:13,544 --> 01:10:15,054
So I went there.
1166
01:10:15,379 --> 01:10:18,879
I came up with about
2.000 dollars to do the effects.
1167
01:10:19,258 --> 01:10:21,758
Just as a ball park
thing and he stuck to that.
1168
01:10:21,969 --> 01:10:24,349
But things were going to happen very fast.
1169
01:10:24,638 --> 01:10:29,888
It was around March 1986
1170
01:10:30,186 --> 01:10:33,146
that I was in Wadesboro,
North Carolina.
1171
01:10:33,564 --> 01:10:36,444
The set was going to
be at the Fasion school.
1172
01:10:36,734 --> 01:10:39,704
It was a small abandoned school.
1173
01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:41,450
Perfect for a film.
1174
01:10:41,655 --> 01:10:44,365
You got a gymnasium which
is great for large sets.
1175
01:10:44,575 --> 01:10:46,405
With big doors and all that.
1176
01:10:46,744 --> 01:10:49,254
You got plenty of class rooms.
1177
01:10:49,496 --> 01:10:51,786
So every department had plenty of space.
1178
01:10:51,999 --> 01:10:53,539
I was one of the first people there.
1179
01:10:53,792 --> 01:10:55,002
I was there early on.
1180
01:10:55,211 --> 01:10:59,171
I took a room right off the gymnasium.
1181
01:10:59,465 --> 01:11:02,215
It was the coaches room or
a locker room or something.
1182
01:11:02,843 --> 01:11:05,763
I had a whole bunch of work to do.
1183
01:11:06,096 --> 01:11:08,016
Sam had given me the choice
1184
01:11:08,307 --> 01:11:12,977
if I wanted to work on the makeup
effects or the stop motion.
1185
01:11:13,395 --> 01:11:17,975
For the finale there was this
great flying deadite battle sequence.
1186
01:11:18,275 --> 01:11:20,525
It was coming in,
battling knights on horseback,
1187
01:11:20,861 --> 01:11:24,071
knock them off and get
speared and all that.
1188
01:11:24,406 --> 01:11:26,656
Then we see a woman
running with a child.
1189
01:11:26,867 --> 01:11:29,947
It's flying over her
and Ash shows up.
1190
01:11:30,371 --> 01:11:32,371
He's got his shotgun
and blows its head off.
1191
01:11:33,082 --> 01:11:36,792
I thought: "Wow! I can do a
whole Harryhausen sequence. "
1192
01:11:37,002 --> 01:11:39,002
That was really attractive to me.
1193
01:11:39,296 --> 01:11:41,006
So I went with the stop motion animation.
1194
01:11:41,340 --> 01:11:43,720
There were a couple of other bits.
The opening and all that.
1195
01:11:45,302 --> 01:11:49,352
My first drawing of
the tentative creature.
1196
01:11:52,184 --> 01:11:54,944
Tail of a sea horse, bat wings,
1197
01:11:55,312 --> 01:11:56,982
beautiful nubile breasts
1198
01:11:57,815 --> 01:12:00,435
and an ugly old haggy face.
1199
01:12:03,362 --> 01:12:08,332
The armature was created by Bob Mees.
1200
01:12:09,827 --> 01:12:11,697
This is my company Illusion Engineering.
1201
01:12:12,663 --> 01:12:14,083
It will be wired.
1202
01:12:14,373 --> 01:12:20,093
So it is capable of expressions
like laughter or frowning.
1203
01:12:20,546 --> 01:12:22,586
The eyes will move around,
the eyelids will move.
1204
01:12:22,965 --> 01:12:25,255
The ears will be able to do a bit of twitching.
1205
01:12:26,093 --> 01:12:28,763
You'll believe a deadite can fly.
1206
01:12:30,514 --> 01:12:31,814
Thank you!
1207
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,910
The wings broke off a long time ago.
1208
01:12:54,747 --> 01:12:57,117
You can see it's an articulated skeleton.
1209
01:12:57,750 --> 01:13:00,130
It's made out of ball and socket joints,
so you can bend it.
1210
01:13:02,129 --> 01:13:03,549
But it'll stay in the
position you put it,
1211
01:13:03,922 --> 01:13:05,382
it's made of a soft rubber foam.
1212
01:13:05,591 --> 01:13:07,261
It doesn't last very long.
1213
01:13:07,468 --> 01:13:09,348
It disintegrates in the ozone,
1214
01:13:09,553 --> 01:13:10,603
the grease on your fingers,
1215
01:13:10,804 --> 01:13:14,354
sunlight... so it's pretty crumbled.
1216
01:13:15,100 --> 01:13:17,310
But the jaw works.
1217
01:13:20,022 --> 01:13:23,692
There's a wire tongue in there.
You can move it one frame at a time.
1218
01:13:24,234 --> 01:13:26,864
At the back of the head,
if you can zoom in,
1219
01:13:27,321 --> 01:13:29,571
you see these screws in there.
1220
01:13:30,032 --> 01:13:33,792
There's six of them
positioned near little gutters
1221
01:13:33,994 --> 01:13:39,424
where we had monofilament line
attached to the little screws here.
1222
01:13:39,708 --> 01:13:44,508
By tightening the screws they'd be attached
to points on the mask of the flying deadite.
1223
01:13:44,838 --> 01:13:49,048
We could raise or lower the eyebrows,
making it frown and grin.
1224
01:13:49,426 --> 01:13:54,426
During the wing flaps
you can see it grin.
1225
01:13:55,432 --> 01:13:56,772
Glad to get that little bit in.
1226
01:13:57,059 --> 01:13:59,689
Sadly these decompose too quickly.
1227
01:14:01,647 --> 01:14:07,187
Here's the new improved
"The Evil Dead" dagger.
1228
01:14:08,654 --> 01:14:12,664
It's a sacrificial dagger made out of bones.
1229
01:14:14,368 --> 01:14:18,248
This was cast, the hilt was
cast from the very first dagger.
1230
01:14:18,831 --> 01:14:24,631
This part was sculpted by
Mike Trzic and Brian Rae.
1231
01:14:26,422 --> 01:14:27,842
The new blade.
1232
01:14:28,257 --> 01:14:31,927
In the beginning, at the
opening of "The Evil Dead 2"
1233
01:14:32,261 --> 01:14:35,261
it starts out with a
black screen and narration:
1234
01:14:35,431 --> 01:14:37,771
"Legend has it, that it was
written by the dark ones."
1235
01:14:37,975 --> 01:14:40,475
The book comes in and stops.
1236
01:14:40,644 --> 01:14:42,774
Then it begins to start to
ungulate and come to life.
1237
01:14:43,355 --> 01:14:45,105
I shot that scene!
1238
01:14:45,315 --> 01:14:49,565
I just talked about that
stop motion book that I used.
1239
01:14:49,778 --> 01:14:52,158
I built it for the beginning of
"The Evil Dead 2".
1240
01:14:52,322 --> 01:14:54,072
This is the actual one!
1241
01:14:54,575 --> 01:14:58,195
You can see bits of the armature in here,
1242
01:14:58,537 --> 01:15:00,157
kind of come disconnected.
1243
01:15:00,622 --> 01:15:02,622
Each of these are two pages of paper,
1244
01:15:02,958 --> 01:15:06,958
in between them is aluminum wire,
1245
01:15:07,171 --> 01:15:11,181
so they could be bent
frame by frame, very carefully.
1246
01:15:13,218 --> 01:15:16,678
As soon as it stopped,
I replaced it with this.
1247
01:15:17,306 --> 01:15:20,846
This had a skin cover
of the book of the dead,
1248
01:15:21,143 --> 01:15:22,353
made from the same mold.
1249
01:15:22,728 --> 01:15:27,018
These would ungulate
underneath the rubber skin,
1250
01:15:27,274 --> 01:15:28,444
the book cover skin,
1251
01:15:28,609 --> 01:15:31,279
with the appearance
that it's coming alive.
1252
01:15:31,778 --> 01:15:33,238
Then the mouth opens.
1253
01:15:33,405 --> 01:15:36,525
The camera goes into the mouth,
into a vortex with a number of ghosts.
1254
01:15:36,950 --> 01:15:40,160
This is the stop motion rig
that I used
1255
01:15:40,662 --> 01:15:42,872
to animate that skin cover.
1256
01:15:43,373 --> 01:15:48,003
One of the spider ghosts from
the beginning of "The Evil Dead 2".
1257
01:15:48,629 --> 01:15:50,959
Made out of Super Sculpey
over aluminum wire.
1258
01:15:51,423 --> 01:15:55,093
This was influenced by Sam Raimi's
love of the Three Stooges.
1259
01:15:55,302 --> 01:15:59,432
One film was called
"A Hunting we will go".
1260
01:15:59,848 --> 01:16:03,638
And there's a parrot
that gets stuck in a skull.
1261
01:16:03,894 --> 01:16:04,904
It flies around in the room.
1262
01:16:05,062 --> 01:16:07,232
Now you just barely
see these things.
1263
01:16:07,231 --> 01:16:09,071
Because they are stop motion
and they come in...
1264
01:16:10,692 --> 01:16:12,952
The demon ghost of a horse.
1265
01:16:13,695 --> 01:16:16,065
Or a horse demon.
1266
01:16:19,743 --> 01:16:21,413
Like pre-Tim Burton, right?
1267
01:16:24,081 --> 01:16:25,751
I am sure he was born.
1268
01:16:27,042 --> 01:16:29,292
You can see a cover
of the book, like this.
1269
01:16:30,504 --> 01:16:37,264
Then from underneath, via stop motion,
these skull segments.
1270
01:16:37,886 --> 01:16:40,556
They'll push out
and distort the cover.
1271
01:16:48,522 --> 01:16:50,652
Once again a stop motion process.
1272
01:16:50,857 --> 01:16:52,727
Very time consuming.
1273
01:16:53,193 --> 01:16:55,073
All this was done for one shot.
1274
01:16:56,196 --> 01:17:01,196
I started working and I
even kept a log of my hours.
1275
01:17:01,410 --> 01:17:04,000
This had started back in 1984.
1276
01:17:04,204 --> 01:17:06,294
Some of the hours are amazing.
1277
01:17:06,498 --> 01:17:09,668
April 23rd: 14 1/2 hours.
1278
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,340
April 22nd: 15 1/2 hours.
1279
01:17:12,546 --> 01:17:15,126
April 24th: 16 hours.
1280
01:17:15,340 --> 01:17:17,470
14 1/2 hours, 13 hours...
1281
01:17:17,718 --> 01:17:21,138
14 1/2 again,
13 hours, 14 1/2 hours...
1282
01:17:21,305 --> 01:17:24,135
14,12,13 1/2...
1283
01:17:24,433 --> 01:17:26,273
and this goes on.
It was maddening hours.
1284
01:17:26,476 --> 01:17:29,016
I just wasn't a happy camper there.
1285
01:17:29,187 --> 01:17:31,317
I missed my wife.
1286
01:17:31,732 --> 01:17:34,192
If you're on the other side
of the country from someone
1287
01:17:34,484 --> 01:17:35,784
it's hard to keep things maintained.
1288
01:17:36,028 --> 01:17:38,028
But I was very excited
about the whole thing.
1289
01:17:38,322 --> 01:17:43,372
This is the vortex for the
upcoming "The Evil Dead 2".
1290
01:17:44,161 --> 01:17:47,541
"Evil Dead too"?
Like in "Evil Dead also"?
1291
01:17:47,956 --> 01:17:51,626
No. As in the 2nd of
a series of "Evil Dead" films.
1292
01:17:53,587 --> 01:17:57,047
Following the success of
the original "The Evil Dead".
1293
01:17:57,799 --> 01:17:59,219
This is our assistant Brian Rae.
1294
01:17:59,384 --> 01:18:01,304
A very talented young man from Detroit.
1295
01:18:01,803 --> 01:18:03,723
He had numerous screen credits,
1296
01:18:04,181 --> 01:18:06,561
like "Carriers" and "Striker's War"
1297
01:18:06,975 --> 01:18:10,595
which has been re-titled to...
who knows.
1298
01:18:11,021 --> 01:18:12,521
What an interesting title.
1299
01:18:12,731 --> 01:18:16,781
I remember that they had
had me prepare a room for you.
1300
01:18:17,027 --> 01:18:20,697
You showed up and
started moving in your stuff
1301
01:18:20,947 --> 01:18:27,077
and you hand some "Book of the Dead"
props and the original dagger.
1302
01:18:27,621 --> 01:18:32,421
As a 18 year old fan of the
original film I was blown away and nervous.
1303
01:18:34,127 --> 01:18:39,587
Shortly after that I became your assistant.
1304
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:41,550
At least part time at the beginning.
1305
01:18:42,219 --> 01:18:45,139
- Okay, Brian...
- Okay... and?
1306
01:18:45,472 --> 01:18:47,142
What do you think?
About your right?
1307
01:18:49,893 --> 01:18:51,603
Turn away.
1308
01:18:58,068 --> 01:18:59,238
Cigarette buds.
1309
01:18:59,653 --> 01:19:01,033
Disgusting!
1310
01:19:03,949 --> 01:19:05,869
"The Evil Dead 2".
1311
01:19:06,201 --> 01:19:07,451
Dead by dawn.
1312
01:19:07,703 --> 01:19:11,123
Coming to haunt you on March 13th.
1313
01:19:12,541 --> 01:19:15,921
- But you did some other stuff too.
- I did some others films.
1314
01:19:16,253 --> 01:19:20,093
After "The Evil Dead"
I worked on "The Fly 2".
1315
01:19:20,799 --> 01:19:23,259
I had met the Walas's during the Japan trip.
1316
01:19:23,427 --> 01:19:26,387
I got a call that they
where looking for an artist
1317
01:19:26,596 --> 01:19:29,806
to do some development
ideas for the creature.
1318
01:19:30,225 --> 01:19:35,225
So I went there and worked on
the sculptures of the creature.
1319
01:19:35,230 --> 01:19:36,770
I was given free reign.
1320
01:19:37,149 --> 01:19:38,609
I was there with 7 or 8 other artists
1321
01:19:39,067 --> 01:19:43,947
and wound up getting tagged
along to do some more work.
1322
01:19:44,156 --> 01:19:47,026
Some sculpting and molding.
1323
01:19:47,325 --> 01:19:49,745
It was like my college course in film making.
1324
01:19:50,078 --> 01:19:54,038
Skilled people,
a great international crew,
1325
01:19:54,541 --> 01:19:58,341
A lot of them worked
between Walas' and ILM.
1326
01:19:58,837 --> 01:19:59,917
That was very cool.
1327
01:20:00,213 --> 01:20:03,343
We got a tour of ILM a couple of times.
1328
01:20:03,675 --> 01:20:05,335
In the warehouse and the studio.
1329
01:20:06,261 --> 01:20:08,851
More amazing pluses.
1330
01:20:09,848 --> 01:20:12,848
Sam wanted me to do some
rotten apple head designs.
1331
01:20:13,059 --> 01:20:15,399
He wanted one that resembled you.
1332
01:20:17,564 --> 01:20:19,984
Is that an authentic box?
1333
01:20:20,525 --> 01:20:22,815
That's the 2nd box I painted.
1334
01:20:22,819 --> 01:20:25,609
- They lost the first one.
- So you had to redo it.
1335
01:20:25,614 --> 01:20:27,204
That's the necklace from
"The Evil Dead 2".
1336
01:20:32,871 --> 01:20:36,881
And that's the necklace
from "The Evil Dead 2".
1337
01:20:39,669 --> 01:20:43,259
It was given to me by the
prop master Blanch Sindelar.
1338
01:20:47,302 --> 01:20:49,472
It's really precious to me.
1339
01:20:52,682 --> 01:20:56,312
Penny and I got married May 17th 1975.
1340
01:20:57,020 --> 01:21:01,730
We were married for
12 years, 3 month and 3 days.
1341
01:21:01,983 --> 01:21:03,243
And a couple of hours.
1342
01:21:05,529 --> 01:21:11,739
She was a terrific wife for me,
being an artist.
1343
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:16,750
Because this wasn't a topic
she was really interested in.
1344
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:18,880
It was fun to impress her with my stuff.
1345
01:21:19,417 --> 01:21:21,247
She was very supportive.
1346
01:21:21,461 --> 01:21:23,921
And it was also...
1347
01:21:24,965 --> 01:21:30,715
fun to show off and have
this incremental success with things.
1348
01:21:31,179 --> 01:21:33,429
Things were getting a
little bit better all the time.
1349
01:21:34,057 --> 01:21:37,597
At a certain point I could
make a living being an artist.
1350
01:21:38,186 --> 01:21:41,056
Everything you did...
you could do no wrong with her.
1351
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:44,569
She thought you were the
most clever, most creative,
1352
01:21:44,734 --> 01:21:49,324
most artistic, funniest,
smartest person in the world.
1353
01:21:50,532 --> 01:21:55,752
I Remember how you used to
find Scramble in the newspaper,
1354
01:21:56,413 --> 01:21:58,583
before Penny would come from work,
1355
01:21:58,874 --> 01:22:01,254
and you'd figure out
what all of the words were.
1356
01:22:02,294 --> 01:22:04,674
- Was it Scramble?
- No, it was Jumbo.
1357
01:22:04,921 --> 01:22:07,671
Jumbo... so you'd figure
out what all the words were
1358
01:22:07,883 --> 01:22:10,143
which was just a great
feat just to figure it out.
1359
01:22:10,635 --> 01:22:14,135
But you would never write
the answers on the newspaper.
1360
01:22:14,598 --> 01:22:16,978
You'd be doing something
else when Penny'd come home,
1361
01:22:17,142 --> 01:22:19,812
and the first thing she'd do is
to turn the newspaper to Jumbo.
1362
01:22:20,145 --> 01:22:26,435
She'd say". "Tommy,
what do you think this word is?"
1363
01:22:26,735 --> 01:22:28,775
And she'd spell it
or give you a clue.
1364
01:22:29,112 --> 01:22:31,492
And you'd have the
answer right away.
1365
01:22:31,656 --> 01:22:33,826
She'd be like:
"You're just amazing!
1366
01:22:34,034 --> 01:22:35,874
I can't believe you'd
come up with all of that."
1367
01:22:36,036 --> 01:22:38,076
But you already had all the answers.
1368
01:22:39,414 --> 01:22:44,504
Could we have a 20 minutes
without the camera?
1369
01:22:45,211 --> 01:22:46,961
Let's see what time it is.
1370
01:22:47,923 --> 01:22:49,133
1:32.
1371
01:22:49,716 --> 01:22:52,296
- I'll... - Leave it!
I want you to come over here.
1372
01:22:56,848 --> 01:22:58,178
Kiss!
1373
01:23:07,233 --> 01:23:08,443
Are we all in it?
1374
01:23:09,152 --> 01:23:13,372
When we moved to San Francisco...
1375
01:23:14,950 --> 01:23:16,620
things started to change.
1376
01:23:16,826 --> 01:23:20,866
Marriages and people evolve.
1377
01:23:21,081 --> 01:23:23,121
We got married in our early 20's.
1378
01:23:23,583 --> 01:23:25,213
Things change.
1379
01:23:26,169 --> 01:23:29,629
She came to visit the set of
"The Evil Dead 2".
1380
01:23:29,923 --> 01:23:33,643
Sam put her in
the film in cameo.
1381
01:23:36,388 --> 01:23:38,178
She's getting off the airplane
1382
01:23:38,556 --> 01:23:40,846
with one of the
lawyers also in a cameo.
1383
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:46,690
She came to tell me she wanted a divorce.
1384
01:23:46,690 --> 01:23:49,480
I could stay with her a
couple of weeks when it was over.
1385
01:23:49,484 --> 01:23:50,944
To get my own place and stuff.
1386
01:23:51,528 --> 01:23:54,108
During "The Evil Dead 2",
I was fairly depressed.
1387
01:23:55,573 --> 01:23:58,283
Knowing I had made a
commitment to a film,
1388
01:23:58,576 --> 01:24:01,446
and yet I made a
commitment to a marriage,
1389
01:24:03,790 --> 01:24:05,250
I could not reconcile them.
1390
01:24:07,127 --> 01:24:10,337
Because I worked one
year on "The Evil Dead 2",
1391
01:24:10,588 --> 01:24:15,428
Penny didn't have the
opportunity to take a vacation,
1392
01:24:15,802 --> 01:24:18,472
so she did with a
couple of her female friends.
1393
01:24:20,390 --> 01:24:27,400
She was sailing on
Traverse Bay on July 20th 1987.
1394
01:24:28,314 --> 01:24:31,074
I was living with my
fiancee Michael at the time,
1395
01:24:33,445 --> 01:24:34,605
and my dad called.
1396
01:24:34,863 --> 01:24:36,243
My father called.
1397
01:24:37,449 --> 01:24:41,239
He told us that they'd
been contacted by the police
1398
01:24:43,580 --> 01:24:45,080
in Traverse City, Michigan.
1399
01:24:45,665 --> 01:24:48,285
They were trying to locate Tom Sullivan.
1400
01:24:48,585 --> 01:24:54,415
And that his
wife had been lost in lake Michigan,
1401
01:24:54,632 --> 01:24:57,842
following severe storms
that had occurred up there.
1402
01:24:59,262 --> 01:25:00,642
And that she was presumed dead.
1403
01:25:01,014 --> 01:25:02,814
And that I needed to
get in touch with you.
1404
01:25:03,141 --> 01:25:07,691
Dad thought it was important
that I tell you in person.
1405
01:25:08,938 --> 01:25:12,528
I knew you were in a state of upset
1406
01:25:12,901 --> 01:25:14,571
just about not
having Penny with you.
1407
01:25:15,153 --> 01:25:19,873
Telling you that I needed to talk to
you wasn't going to be good enough.
1408
01:25:20,450 --> 01:25:23,580
So I came up with this lie that
Michael an I had a big fight.
1409
01:25:23,745 --> 01:25:25,035
And I needed to talk with you.
1410
01:25:25,497 --> 01:25:26,867
Actually Michael came with me.
1411
01:25:27,207 --> 01:25:30,207
We came over to your
house in San Francisco.
1412
01:25:36,341 --> 01:25:39,471
It was probably one of the
hardest things I ever had to do.
1413
01:25:39,719 --> 01:25:41,179
To tell you about Penny.
1414
01:25:43,890 --> 01:25:48,100
So we brought you back to our condo.
1415
01:25:49,354 --> 01:25:50,984
Got a flight out that morning.
1416
01:25:52,899 --> 01:25:55,319
It had already made the
front page of USA Today.
1417
01:25:55,485 --> 01:25:57,235
I remember seeing the paper
as we were riding in the plane.
1418
01:25:58,113 --> 01:25:59,613
We got in...
1419
01:26:01,449 --> 01:26:03,279
we spent the night in Marshall.
1420
01:26:03,618 --> 01:26:06,118
All you wanted to do is go to Traverse City
1421
01:26:06,496 --> 01:26:08,206
and help find Penny.
1422
01:26:08,748 --> 01:26:13,748
We went up and spent some time.
Other friends were there.
1423
01:26:15,088 --> 01:26:17,718
Deb, the one survivor,
was up there as well.
1424
01:26:18,174 --> 01:26:20,474
All of us were just walking
the beach in Traverse City.
1425
01:26:20,927 --> 01:26:23,217
We were looking for any signs,
out on the water.
1426
01:26:24,097 --> 01:26:25,967
For Penny.
1427
01:26:26,766 --> 01:26:28,136
A very difficult time.
1428
01:26:28,768 --> 01:26:34,108
We were in a hotel room and got
the call that she'd been found.
1429
01:26:35,275 --> 01:26:40,945
A day later they
found the other Debbie.
1430
01:26:42,574 --> 01:26:44,334
And... wow.
1431
01:26:52,417 --> 01:26:55,417
My brother in law identified her.
I didn't have to do that.
1432
01:26:56,421 --> 01:26:58,261
I'm thankful for this.
1433
01:26:59,299 --> 01:27:03,219
I cried like a baby during the ceremony,
during the funeral.
1434
01:27:05,805 --> 01:27:08,845
That just wrecked me.
1435
01:27:11,060 --> 01:27:13,980
It effected my work.
1436
01:27:15,982 --> 01:27:17,612
She was part of the first film too.
1437
01:27:17,817 --> 01:27:23,067
She did a lot of work for me and
supported me during the production.
1438
01:27:47,305 --> 01:27:50,635
Though I'd really swap it all for Penny,
1439
01:27:50,850 --> 01:27:51,980
I would.
1440
01:27:52,435 --> 01:27:54,685
I think things would have
worked out one way or another.
1441
01:27:55,188 --> 01:27:56,228
And I know Sam.
1442
01:27:56,397 --> 01:27:57,897
If they didn't have me on
"The Evil Dead"
1443
01:27:58,233 --> 01:27:59,693
it may not have been "The Evil Dead"
1444
01:27:59,984 --> 01:28:01,364
that got him his career.
1445
01:28:01,361 --> 01:28:02,361
It would have been something else.
1446
01:28:02,612 --> 01:28:05,452
Because he's a dynamic talent.
1447
01:28:08,368 --> 01:28:10,828
But bartering is part
of the grieving process,
1448
01:28:10,828 --> 01:28:12,498
I guess I'm still in it!
1449
01:28:18,378 --> 01:28:19,748
Anything else?
1450
01:28:19,754 --> 01:28:20,844
You tell me, man!
1451
01:28:21,506 --> 01:28:22,836
I think it's pretty good.
1452
01:28:23,341 --> 01:28:29,061
It felt like the right
way to cover the subject.
1453
01:28:29,597 --> 01:28:31,717
I can get you more pictures of her.
1454
01:28:32,267 --> 01:28:34,887
- See ya!
- Bye, Penny
1455
01:28:40,233 --> 01:28:45,663
Then I stayed in San Francisco
for about a year.
1456
01:28:46,447 --> 01:28:48,237
I got more and more depressed.
1457
01:28:48,533 --> 01:28:50,583
So I decided to go home to Michigan.
1458
01:28:54,789 --> 01:28:57,129
I got an apartment
here thanks to the family.
1459
01:29:00,128 --> 01:29:03,008
I was still working and
doing things for Chaosium.
1460
01:29:03,631 --> 01:29:07,261
And I was doing commercials
for a local company.
1461
01:29:07,802 --> 01:29:11,222
Industrial films, educational
films and all sorts of stuff.
1462
01:29:11,973 --> 01:29:17,653
1992 I got in a car accident.
1463
01:29:18,604 --> 01:29:20,024
I'd been out that summer
1464
01:29:20,857 --> 01:29:24,857
and you were very involved
with this theatre company.
1465
01:29:25,194 --> 01:29:26,744
Out in the country.
1466
01:29:27,071 --> 01:29:29,701
You were putting on
"Mary Shelley's Frankenstein"
1467
01:29:29,949 --> 01:29:32,489
which is such a superb piece.
1468
01:29:33,161 --> 01:29:35,251
You were playing the monster.
1469
01:29:35,705 --> 01:29:37,865
I remember going out and
seeing you that summer.
1470
01:29:38,666 --> 01:29:43,916
It was great and felt like you
were turning this healing corner
1471
01:29:44,714 --> 01:29:47,594
to get back to your passion,
1472
01:29:47,925 --> 01:29:48,925
creating.
1473
01:29:49,344 --> 01:29:50,934
You did such a great job.
1474
01:29:51,095 --> 01:29:54,345
You got all the qualities
of being a great actor.
1475
01:29:56,559 --> 01:29:58,899
I think it's part of
that artistic side of you.
1476
01:29:59,187 --> 01:30:00,647
You did such a fantastic job.
1477
01:30:01,272 --> 01:30:03,192
I remember reading the news.
1478
01:30:03,649 --> 01:30:06,319
They'd found you, upside down,
strapped into the car,
1479
01:30:06,611 --> 01:30:07,821
crashed into a tree.
1480
01:30:08,279 --> 01:30:10,369
And that...
1481
01:30:11,282 --> 01:30:14,412
they thought you were fine,
even though your face was purple.
1482
01:30:14,744 --> 01:30:16,504
I don't remember the accident.
1483
01:30:16,871 --> 01:30:19,621
From my point of view, I woke up
in the hospital two hours later.
1484
01:30:20,291 --> 01:30:25,461
But I just delivered a bunch of
puppets for Lawrence Production
1485
01:30:27,298 --> 01:30:28,798
for a kids video they were doing.
1486
01:30:29,926 --> 01:30:32,716
The engine wound up
in the seat next to me.
1487
01:30:32,887 --> 01:30:34,927
If somebody'd have been there
they'd have been killed instantly.
1488
01:30:35,390 --> 01:30:36,930
My face was all modeled,
1489
01:30:37,266 --> 01:30:38,806
my head was screwed up.
1490
01:30:39,310 --> 01:30:40,980
Nothing broken.
1491
01:30:41,604 --> 01:30:45,024
All the scans didn't show anything.
1492
01:30:45,316 --> 01:30:50,316
So the ER guys not being that
familiar with head injuries...
1493
01:30:51,114 --> 01:30:54,124
I was out of the door
20 minutes after I woke up.
1494
01:30:54,492 --> 01:30:58,162
As soon as my mom and
my girlfriend dropped by
1495
01:30:58,788 --> 01:31:00,078
and picked me up,
1496
01:31:00,331 --> 01:31:02,171
I didn't know what was going on.
1497
01:31:02,625 --> 01:31:06,245
There was very little known at
that time about closed head injuries.
1498
01:31:06,671 --> 01:31:10,381
There was a lot of denial
about it from medical doctors,
1499
01:31:10,591 --> 01:31:13,641
from therapists, psychoanalysts,
neurosurgeons.
1500
01:31:14,137 --> 01:31:19,347
They didn't understand that just
because the skull's not crushed
1501
01:31:19,642 --> 01:31:21,352
or blood was not found
1502
01:31:21,727 --> 01:31:24,727
that there wasn't
enormous damage
1503
01:31:24,981 --> 01:31:28,901
to people that have gone
through a trauma like that.
1504
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:31,150
You did have trauma.
1505
01:31:31,487 --> 01:31:33,777
And you had to pay for that.
1506
01:31:34,073 --> 01:31:35,833
You paid dearly
1507
01:31:36,117 --> 01:31:38,697
for the things that stopped
making sense in your life.
1508
01:31:39,162 --> 01:31:41,122
I got misdiagnosed.
1509
01:31:41,330 --> 01:31:42,620
They said it was my depression.
1510
01:31:42,874 --> 01:31:47,844
Which it was, but I'd been working,
I was doing "Frankenstein",
1511
01:31:48,463 --> 01:31:50,723
I was dating,
1512
01:31:51,048 --> 01:31:53,678
I was happy and everything
was getting back to normal.
1513
01:31:54,093 --> 01:31:57,603
And suddenly I didn't
want to be around anybody.
1514
01:31:57,847 --> 01:32:00,807
One couldn't talk to me
without making me angry.
1515
01:32:01,434 --> 01:32:07,694
Talking to you it sounded as if
all of your controls had been...
1516
01:32:08,316 --> 01:32:10,566
skewed. They
were like upside down.
1517
01:32:10,902 --> 01:32:13,992
You would have to wear a winter
coat when it was 90 degrees out
1518
01:32:14,405 --> 01:32:15,445
because you'd be freezing.
1519
01:32:15,865 --> 01:32:20,495
Or you wold be
sleeping 24 hours a day
1520
01:32:20,703 --> 01:32:21,833
and than you'd be up for days.
1521
01:32:22,371 --> 01:32:24,501
I just wanted to hide away.
1522
01:32:24,707 --> 01:32:27,667
They'd say, it's because my
wife died six years earlier,
1523
01:32:28,044 --> 01:32:29,804
I was like: "No! It's the accident."
1524
01:32:30,087 --> 01:32:34,127
"Well, non of our
tests showed anything."
1525
01:32:36,511 --> 01:32:39,891
And to not only have that experience,
1526
01:32:40,473 --> 01:32:46,233
but to have the medical community,
over and over, deny
1527
01:32:46,604 --> 01:32:48,404
that this could be
happening to you.
1528
01:32:48,648 --> 01:32:51,438
It was heartbreaking that you
had to go trough that again,
1529
01:32:51,651 --> 01:32:52,821
to be victimized again.
1530
01:32:53,110 --> 01:32:57,620
With loosing Penny,
with the accident
1531
01:32:57,782 --> 01:32:59,582
and with the other situations
1532
01:33:00,034 --> 01:33:01,494
that you had to go
through in your life.
1533
01:33:02,620 --> 01:33:05,040
You got through enough for
a number of people's lives.
1534
01:33:05,248 --> 01:33:06,248
That's for sure.
1535
01:33:07,458 --> 01:33:10,128
I got a call from Rob Tapert.
1536
01:33:10,795 --> 01:33:15,505
They couldn't find any
"The Evil Dead 2" books of the dead,
1537
01:33:15,716 --> 01:33:17,836
so I made a new copy.
1538
01:33:18,052 --> 01:33:21,432
By the time they got it for
use in "The Army of Darkness",
1539
01:33:21,764 --> 01:33:25,274
the art director reminded them
that Ash needs to get sucked into it.
1540
01:33:25,685 --> 01:33:30,305
So the art director did a
derivative version of mine.
1541
01:33:30,606 --> 01:33:33,686
I think Tony Gardner sculpted
a new one based on my design.
1542
01:33:33,859 --> 01:33:37,449
They used a couple of
pages of my artwork
1543
01:33:37,780 --> 01:33:40,450
stuffed them together and
enlarged one of the figures
1544
01:33:40,658 --> 01:33:42,158
from the original pages.
1545
01:33:44,161 --> 01:33:46,871
It's not my favorite
book cover of the three.
1546
01:33:47,164 --> 01:33:51,134
That was my connection
with "The Army of Darkness".
1547
01:33:51,586 --> 01:33:57,296
They offered me that if I
came down they'd suit me up
1548
01:33:57,592 --> 01:34:00,182
and have me as an extra in the film.
That would have been great.
1549
01:34:00,344 --> 01:34:01,934
But I couldn't get
out there at the time.
1550
01:34:02,388 --> 01:34:04,768
I just had my car accident and I was...
1551
01:34:05,016 --> 01:34:06,266
too depressed.
1552
01:34:06,684 --> 01:34:10,104
Not a fun guy to be around.
1553
01:34:10,896 --> 01:34:12,436
An awful time actually.
1554
01:34:14,734 --> 01:34:16,574
I stayed in my room for three years.
1555
01:34:16,819 --> 01:34:19,949
I came out as little as possible.
1556
01:34:20,573 --> 01:34:22,743
Things just got worse.
1557
01:34:23,451 --> 01:34:25,241
It was a big mess.
1558
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:27,660
What got you out?
1559
01:34:30,583 --> 01:34:33,673
Going back, meeting Ken Kish.
1560
01:34:34,253 --> 01:34:38,473
In 1998 maybe,
1561
01:34:39,383 --> 01:34:44,013
I'm walking around the Motor City Con,
a big convention.
1562
01:34:44,221 --> 01:34:46,271
In Novi, Calif...
1563
01:34:47,808 --> 01:34:52,478
In 1998 I see... I met...
1564
01:34:53,606 --> 01:34:59,946
In 1998 I'm at Motor
City Con in Novi, Michigan.
1565
01:35:00,571 --> 01:35:05,031
And I see a big display of black t-shirts.
1566
01:35:05,242 --> 01:35:06,452
And one of them had "The Evil Dead".
1567
01:35:06,661 --> 01:35:11,081
I said: "Hey! That's my design.
I worked on that. "
1568
01:35:11,290 --> 01:35:13,170
He said: "You're Tom Sullivan?"...
he knew who I was.
1569
01:35:13,709 --> 01:35:16,209
It was Ken Kish.
1570
01:35:16,545 --> 01:35:21,875
He runs the Cinema
Wasteland Horror Movie Expo.
1571
01:35:22,259 --> 01:35:27,849
He said he was planning a horror
convention in Strongsville, Ohio.
1572
01:35:28,265 --> 01:35:30,095
And if I wanted to be his guest.
1573
01:35:30,351 --> 01:35:31,641
I was the first guest he invited.
1574
01:35:36,649 --> 01:35:38,069
I let him in once.
1575
01:35:38,567 --> 01:35:40,857
I met Tom Sullivan for the first time,
1576
01:35:41,028 --> 01:35:45,528
at the first ever Cinema
Wasteland show in Strongsville, Ohio
1577
01:35:45,700 --> 01:35:47,540
back in fall 2000.
1578
01:35:47,785 --> 01:35:50,905
One of the assignments I had from my bosses
1579
01:35:51,163 --> 01:35:54,383
was to got to the show and
make contact with Tom Sullivan.
1580
01:35:54,750 --> 01:35:59,000
To see if he'd be involved in
creating a special "Book of the Dead" edition
1581
01:35:59,296 --> 01:36:00,546
of "The Evil Dead".
1582
01:36:00,923 --> 01:36:02,933
At my first Cinema Wasteland,
1583
01:36:03,175 --> 01:36:05,135
Mike Felsher came to visit
1584
01:36:05,553 --> 01:36:08,723
and at the time he was
working for Anchor Bay,
1585
01:36:08,973 --> 01:36:13,353
the terrific DVD packaging folks.
1586
01:36:13,644 --> 01:36:14,854
They're now into Blu-rays, of course.
1587
01:36:15,229 --> 01:36:17,149
But this was a fun project.
1588
01:36:17,648 --> 01:36:19,568
It won some awards.
1589
01:36:20,401 --> 01:36:21,651
What awards?
1590
01:36:22,027 --> 01:36:23,737
I don't know.
1591
01:36:24,155 --> 01:36:25,605
Best DVD packaging?
1592
01:36:25,823 --> 01:36:28,703
I remember I beat out the
"Pearl Harbor" package.
1593
01:36:28,993 --> 01:36:33,083
Then there was "The Evil Dead 2".
1594
01:36:37,668 --> 01:36:39,668
Once again based on lost pages
1595
01:36:39,879 --> 01:36:45,429
and pages I'd drawn for
the "The Evil Dead 2" book.
1596
01:36:47,303 --> 01:36:48,853
And then the last one.
1597
01:36:49,638 --> 01:36:54,348
Right off the press:
The "The Army of Darkness" Blu-ray version.
1598
01:36:54,685 --> 01:36:57,015
It's a collectible.
I'm not going to open it.
1599
01:36:57,188 --> 01:36:59,108
But it's got new art in it.
1600
01:36:59,315 --> 01:37:00,685
New secret hidden messages,
1601
01:37:00,858 --> 01:37:02,608
revealing what a smart ass I really am.
1602
01:37:02,610 --> 01:37:03,650
When did you do that?
1603
01:37:03,819 --> 01:37:06,699
In the last couple of month.
1604
01:37:09,158 --> 01:37:11,198
It's brand spanking new.
1605
01:37:12,578 --> 01:37:15,248
- Where is that from?- Australia, mate.
1606
01:37:15,873 --> 01:37:17,583
That started the whole new thing.
1607
01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:19,750
I'd never done a convention
for "The Evil Dead"
1608
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:21,170
until Cinema Wasteland.
1609
01:37:21,337 --> 01:37:22,297
It was the first one.
1610
01:37:22,797 --> 01:37:25,297
Since then I've done hundreds of them.
1611
01:37:26,759 --> 01:37:27,799
All over the country.
1612
01:37:28,135 --> 01:37:31,555
California, Florida, New York.
1613
01:37:33,015 --> 01:37:35,725
It's been terrific.
1614
01:37:38,437 --> 01:37:42,727
I think it's been fun to
see you and everybody else
1615
01:37:42,942 --> 01:37:44,072
making the rounds.
1616
01:37:44,568 --> 01:37:46,238
The film's been around long enough,
1617
01:37:46,445 --> 01:37:48,275
it's considered a weirdo classic.
1618
01:37:48,906 --> 01:37:53,406
If you stick around long enough,
weird things happen.
1619
01:37:53,619 --> 01:37:56,959
So it sort of permeated people's
consciousness a little bit now,
1620
01:37:57,248 --> 01:37:59,878
so it's fun to be able to
travel with a lot of this same group.
1621
01:38:00,167 --> 01:38:01,537
And to go to these conventions.
1622
01:38:01,794 --> 01:38:03,174
Why not? What the hell?
1623
01:38:03,754 --> 01:38:05,134
Let's celebrate the fact that we're still here
1624
01:38:05,339 --> 01:38:06,419
and the movie's still popular.
1625
01:38:06,674 --> 01:38:09,514
Conventions are amazing places to network.
1626
01:38:10,010 --> 01:38:12,680
You meet people you never met before.
1627
01:38:14,723 --> 01:38:17,483
You can go looking for them,
or they'll be looking for you.
1628
01:38:17,852 --> 01:38:20,812
I'm here at the 10th
anniversary show of
1629
01:38:20,980 --> 01:38:22,570
Cinema Wasteland,
1630
01:38:22,565 --> 01:38:27,145
Ken Kish's amazing drive-in themed
convention here in Strongsville, Ohio.
1631
01:38:27,403 --> 01:38:31,163
I'm here at "Spooky Empire",
the mayhem show.
1632
01:38:31,657 --> 01:38:34,987
This is my first time in Orlando, Florida.
1633
01:38:35,286 --> 01:38:40,166
I'm here at the "Wizard
World Comic Con" in Chicago.
1634
01:38:40,374 --> 01:38:45,254
With Bruce Campbell, Hal Delrich,
Theresa Till, Ellen Sandweiss
1635
01:38:45,462 --> 01:38:46,592
and Betsy Baker.
1636
01:38:47,006 --> 01:38:48,376
Boy! Am I beat.
1637
01:38:48,632 --> 01:38:51,892
This has been swamped,
this is madness.
1638
01:38:52,469 --> 01:38:54,009
It's standing room only.
1639
01:38:54,597 --> 01:38:57,387
It's half an hour to
and from the toilet.
1640
01:38:57,641 --> 01:38:59,941
It's amazing... wow!
1641
01:39:00,936 --> 01:39:03,396
And it's not really letting up.
1642
01:39:04,106 --> 01:39:07,276
It's crazy here and I'm having a blast!
1643
01:39:14,700 --> 01:39:19,160
Very coo“
- Yeah! Shop smart! Shop S-mart!
1644
01:39:21,582 --> 01:39:22,922
What is that?
1645
01:39:24,668 --> 01:39:28,048
This is... this is 'the' book.
1646
01:39:28,255 --> 01:39:29,295
The book of what?
1647
01:39:30,466 --> 01:39:32,126
The book of "The Evil Dead".
1648
01:39:32,843 --> 01:39:34,263
- The book of "The Evil Dead"?
- Yes.
1649
01:39:39,224 --> 01:39:44,024
Serving is the sole purpose in life...
it's good to have a purpose.
1650
01:39:44,313 --> 01:39:46,573
Mr. Cthulhu, what is
your vision for America?
1651
01:39:47,024 --> 01:39:49,904
My vision is to wipe it
off the face of the earth.
1652
01:39:51,820 --> 01:39:56,530
Tom and I, we go way back.
He's one of the old soldiers from Detroit.
1653
01:39:57,076 --> 01:39:59,496
You're my favorite
"The Evil Dead" memory.
1654
01:39:59,828 --> 01:40:01,288
- Oh gosh!
- You are!
1655
01:40:01,538 --> 01:40:05,878
I'm Robert Herdsman.
I know Tom since "The Evil Dead 2".
1656
01:40:06,835 --> 01:40:07,915
He's the gay one.
1657
01:40:08,879 --> 01:40:09,959
Tim sucks!
1658
01:40:10,214 --> 01:40:13,434
He had his effects shop there,
doing the stop motion animation.
1659
01:40:16,220 --> 01:40:19,520
I've seen "The Evil Dead"
and it just blew me away.
1660
01:40:19,723 --> 01:40:21,683
We were lucky enough to work
with him on "The Evil Dead 2".
1661
01:40:21,684 --> 01:40:22,774
He's an incredible artist.
1662
01:40:22,935 --> 01:40:25,015
He'd done great paintings
and we had a great time.
1663
01:40:32,653 --> 01:40:37,123
You can call me what you like...
1664
01:40:37,574 --> 01:40:40,334
- How long did it take you to grow that?
- Six month.
1665
01:40:40,577 --> 01:40:41,867
What did your mom think?
1666
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,080
Which of these are yours?
1667
01:40:46,917 --> 01:40:49,287
From one dinosaur artist to another:
1668
01:40:49,586 --> 01:40:51,416
Your stuff is just fantastic!
1669
01:40:59,763 --> 01:41:01,643
- You made those?
- Yeah.
1670
01:41:01,849 --> 01:41:04,389
How did you do it?
What's your name? - Steve.
1671
01:41:17,990 --> 01:41:20,950
Sol pick up the ball and
throw it to one of them.
1672
01:41:21,201 --> 01:41:23,251
The first thing you
said today that made sense.
1673
01:41:23,412 --> 01:41:25,212
I don't even know
what I am talking about.
1674
01:41:27,708 --> 01:41:31,588
Throw the ball to first base.
Now? Who's got it? - Them!
1675
01:41:32,629 --> 01:41:35,379
You know, in film you
don't get to take bow.
1676
01:41:35,841 --> 01:41:38,141
Conventions are the best way to do that.
1677
01:41:38,385 --> 01:41:40,795
You meet with them,
you talk to them.
1678
01:41:40,971 --> 01:41:43,561
You find out how much
your work meant to people.
1679
01:41:44,016 --> 01:41:47,016
It kind of gets lost when
you don't hear applause.
1680
01:41:47,352 --> 01:41:49,772
It's a nice thing to get feedback.
1681
01:41:50,230 --> 01:41:53,150
I never expected to
meet people, like you.
1682
01:41:53,484 --> 01:41:57,574
Who saw my work and decided
that's what they have to do.
1683
01:41:58,030 --> 01:42:01,080
That happened with me and "King Kong"
and Willis O'Brien's work.
1684
01:42:01,366 --> 01:42:04,406
And it's just neat that this
energy keeps getting passed around.
1685
01:42:04,912 --> 01:42:09,542
I think of all the forms of immortality,
that's about the healthiest.
1686
01:42:33,607 --> 01:42:36,737
He was incredible.
Sam was great to hire him.
1687
01:42:36,985 --> 01:42:38,525
The same with Rob and Bruce.
1688
01:42:39,029 --> 01:42:42,619
His visuals still
are extremely memorable
1689
01:42:42,825 --> 01:42:44,235
and a part of that whole franchise.
1690
01:42:44,660 --> 01:42:50,000
Tom was like the island,
we were the current that flowed around him.
1691
01:42:50,791 --> 01:42:52,211
He was the rock.
1692
01:42:52,501 --> 01:42:55,051
He was unflappable.
1693
01:42:56,004 --> 01:42:58,344
You want to talk some more about Tom?
1694
01:42:59,508 --> 01:43:01,678
I took an interest in Tom's work
1695
01:43:01,844 --> 01:43:04,764
because I'd grown up
with the "Evil Dead" movies.
1696
01:43:05,556 --> 01:43:07,176
And he's the man behind the magic.
1697
01:43:07,891 --> 01:43:09,941
I mean, look at all these props.
1698
01:43:11,103 --> 01:43:14,613
So many classic props you'd
recognize from the movies.
1699
01:43:14,982 --> 01:43:16,282
And here we go!
1700
01:43:16,608 --> 01:43:19,648
Look! It's John...
1701
01:43:23,740 --> 01:43:24,950
it was logical,
1702
01:43:25,367 --> 01:43:28,867
because you had talked about
special effects makeup on top of the art,
1703
01:43:29,413 --> 01:43:33,133
it seemed logical to use
you for "The Evil Dead".
1704
01:43:34,459 --> 01:43:36,039
Not that we didn't know anyone else.
1705
01:43:36,336 --> 01:43:38,376
Maybe we'd heard of
some random people.
1706
01:43:39,047 --> 01:43:41,297
But it was a new field for us too.
1707
01:43:41,633 --> 01:43:43,473
So you were leading the way.
1708
01:43:45,637 --> 01:43:47,507
All the way through it...
1709
01:43:47,973 --> 01:43:50,563
because he was willing and very patient.
1710
01:43:51,518 --> 01:43:53,188
And he doesn't freak out.
1711
01:43:55,105 --> 01:43:57,855
He was so patient with Sam.
1712
01:43:59,443 --> 01:44:03,163
Like: "You don't want to use my designs?
What do you have in mind?"
1713
01:44:04,698 --> 01:44:06,868
"Pal, that's hard to say!"
1714
01:44:07,826 --> 01:44:09,076
"Let's try!"
1715
01:44:09,328 --> 01:44:11,618
And if you want me to mold things...
1716
01:44:12,122 --> 01:44:15,922
you see, this is reality,
this is concrete...
1717
01:44:16,793 --> 01:44:23,883
Many other effects guys
might have completely wigged out
1718
01:44:24,134 --> 01:44:25,894
on Sam, within days.
1719
01:44:26,136 --> 01:44:27,296
Because he did that thing.
1720
01:44:28,347 --> 01:44:30,517
But Tom was such a calm and nice guy.
1721
01:44:31,350 --> 01:44:32,730
"Let's work this out."
1722
01:44:33,227 --> 01:44:35,267
So I'd say: He was invaluable!
1723
01:44:48,283 --> 01:44:49,623
Tom, this is for you:
1724
01:44:50,535 --> 01:44:53,865
I want that 20 bucks back,
you cheap crook!
1725
01:44:54,122 --> 01:44:57,832
You borrowed them from me,
30 years ago.
1726
01:44:57,834 --> 01:44:58,884
I want it back now!
1727
01:44:59,086 --> 01:45:02,256
The interests on that
got to be astronomical...
1728
01:45:02,589 --> 01:45:04,679
let's start with 1.000 dollars.
1729
01:45:05,968 --> 01:45:09,718
I just want to say how proud
I am of you and your career.
1730
01:45:09,972 --> 01:45:13,482
- You always entertained me.
- We all figure out how we can do something.
1731
01:45:14,434 --> 01:45:16,944
There's no manual for this business.
1732
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:18,769
We do the best we can.
1733
01:45:20,065 --> 01:45:22,935
On we go! To the next
convention and beyond!
1734
01:45:23,485 --> 01:45:24,815
Thank you, Bruce.
1735
01:45:26,238 --> 01:45:29,488
- Then we got that Ryan Meade.
- Who's that guy?
1736
01:45:29,950 --> 01:45:32,330
A young film maker. A renegade.
1737
01:45:32,661 --> 01:45:36,001
- Really?
- Yeah. He's his own kind of guy.
1738
01:45:37,499 --> 01:45:39,539
They speak of him in legends.
1739
01:45:40,210 --> 01:45:41,920
Yeah, he's okay.
1740
01:45:43,672 --> 01:45:45,472
You got to kick his ass
every once in a while but...
1741
01:45:46,341 --> 01:45:48,511
I know how that is.
1742
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:50,390
We'll check it out.
1743
01:45:52,180 --> 01:45:54,310
We also lost a snake.
1744
01:45:55,392 --> 01:45:58,272
We thought we'd lost
it inside Bart's house.
1745
01:45:59,688 --> 01:46:00,898
We were scared to death.
1746
01:46:01,106 --> 01:46:04,276
Because if his wife ever found it...
1747
01:46:05,152 --> 01:46:08,162
she'd just walk out.
1748
01:46:08,739 --> 01:46:10,199
Eventually I found it though.
1749
01:46:10,407 --> 01:46:13,197
Later in the day.
It was in my underwear.
1750
01:46:14,619 --> 01:46:20,999
Is there a way... we could end this...
with a 'party down"?
1751
01:46:26,381 --> 01:46:27,921
Which means?
Which means?
1752
01:46:28,300 --> 01:46:30,930
Party down! Yeah!
1753
01:46:36,099 --> 01:46:37,429
She's your girlfriend,
you take care.
1754
01:46:37,642 --> 01:46:39,272
I'm getting the
hell out of here.
1755
01:46:55,994 --> 01:46:57,204
That was fun.
1756
01:47:01,792 --> 01:47:03,042
There goes it...
1757
01:47:03,418 --> 01:47:04,918
Okay-
1758
01:47:08,256 --> 01:47:09,466
That was interesting!
1759
01:47:18,934 --> 01:47:21,024
- The artist will know what to do.
- Let's do one more of this.
1760
01:47:24,439 --> 01:47:28,319
- What is this?
- The "The Evil Dead 2" book of the dead.
1761
01:47:28,485 --> 01:47:30,445
It's the skin I made
1762
01:47:31,029 --> 01:47:36,489
for the VIAVISION "All Evil Dead
Movies on Blu-ray"-collection.
1763
01:47:36,743 --> 01:47:38,293
It's going to be six discs.
1764
01:47:38,495 --> 01:47:42,415
This documentary will be
one of the bonus features.
1765
01:47:42,833 --> 01:47:44,503
- I am very proud about that!
- No way!
1766
01:47:44,668 --> 01:47:45,998
It's true.
1767
01:47:47,170 --> 01:47:49,010
If you live in Australia or New Zealand
1768
01:47:49,506 --> 01:47:51,796
you got quite a treat coming your way.
1769
01:47:52,092 --> 01:47:53,302
Kick ass!
1770
01:47:53,635 --> 01:47:55,755
You got the dagger,
the six discs...
1771
01:47:55,762 --> 01:47:59,352
it's ultimate! And
got 16 new pages of artwork.
1772
01:47:59,724 --> 01:48:03,234
- How's that coming along?
- Pretty good. Still two pages to go.
1773
01:48:03,812 --> 01:48:05,772
So many years later
and you're still drawing.
1774
01:48:06,148 --> 01:48:07,568
You're still drawing and painting.
1775
01:48:07,816 --> 01:48:10,566
- You're creating and molding...
- It slowed down but, yeah...
1776
01:48:10,861 --> 01:48:13,241
- It's badass!
- Absolutely.
1777
01:48:13,530 --> 01:48:15,120
I am very happy-
1778
01:48:15,407 --> 01:48:16,487
I am proud of you, fucker.
1779
01:48:16,825 --> 01:48:17,775
Thanks.
1780
01:48:20,745 --> 01:48:23,705
It's like 30 years later and
you're still painting that book.
1781
01:48:24,958 --> 01:48:26,078
Can get rid off it.
1782
01:48:26,418 --> 01:48:27,958
It's a crowd pleaser.
1783
01:48:29,463 --> 01:48:32,803
I am blessed that I kept my copyrights.
1784
01:48:34,092 --> 01:48:35,802
What made you do that back in the day?
1785
01:48:36,052 --> 01:48:38,472
Why did you feel you'd
like to keep your copyright?
1786
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,100
[Mumbling]
1787
01:48:41,975 --> 01:48:43,265
A friend said:
"Always keep your copyrights."
1788
01:48:45,687 --> 01:48:47,937
And I had an opportunity
to make that happen.
1789
01:48:49,191 --> 01:48:50,981
Sam and Rob were generous with that.
1790
01:48:51,735 --> 01:48:52,775
And I appreciated it.
1791
01:48:52,986 --> 01:48:54,526
And they keep on giving.
1792
01:48:55,614 --> 01:48:56,954
They're really cool!
1793
01:49:09,878 --> 01:49:13,338
- I want to watch the movie!
- I want to watch it again, dad.
1794
01:49:14,549 --> 01:49:16,259
Let's watch the movie again!
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