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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:23,827 --> 00:00:26,275 I was headed up to work at the mine, 2 00:00:27,103 --> 00:00:29,965 and on my way, 3 00:00:29,965 --> 00:00:33,379 noticed that there were some taillights 4 00:00:33,379 --> 00:00:35,137 off the side of the road in the ditch. 5 00:00:42,482 --> 00:00:43,965 When I got up to the vehicle, 6 00:00:43,965 --> 00:00:46,034 you could actually see the bullet holes, 7 00:00:51,689 --> 00:00:53,000 and I jumped down. 8 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,413 The gentleman was slumped over. 9 00:00:57,620 --> 00:00:59,172 I told him, "Hang on," you know? 10 00:01:00,620 --> 00:01:01,551 "Help's on the way." 11 00:01:04,103 --> 00:01:06,000 But no, he was... He... 12 00:01:07,275 --> 00:01:09,137 ...took his last breaths, right there. 13 00:01:58,241 --> 00:02:01,344 Well, Clifton was a Wild West, 14 00:02:01,344 --> 00:02:03,517 shoot 'em up, rough, tough town. 15 00:02:04,827 --> 00:02:06,344 You had to be tough to survive. 16 00:02:08,793 --> 00:02:11,482 Fortunately, in this area, in Arizona, 17 00:02:11,482 --> 00:02:13,241 the rock had a lot of minerals in it, 18 00:02:15,379 --> 00:02:17,172 veins of gold and silver, 19 00:02:19,103 --> 00:02:22,275 and that started a stampede to this area. 20 00:02:23,448 --> 00:02:25,931 If anybody tried to jump your claim, 21 00:02:25,931 --> 00:02:27,310 they would settle it with a gun. 22 00:02:36,172 --> 00:02:39,206 The town of Clifton is not on the way somewhere else. 23 00:02:39,827 --> 00:02:41,172 People that are here, 24 00:02:41,172 --> 00:02:44,862 they're here because of the mine, 25 00:02:44,862 --> 00:02:47,758 the same way that the people came here looking for gold. 26 00:02:50,413 --> 00:02:51,931 Even now, 27 00:02:51,931 --> 00:02:56,344 a dispute can cause a man to be killed. 28 00:02:56,344 --> 00:03:00,000 It still goes on today, just like it always has. 29 00:03:17,793 --> 00:03:19,000 I was asleep 30 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,068 when I got a phone call from my dispatch. 31 00:03:23,137 --> 00:03:26,517 There had been a shooting near the Horseshoe Curve. 32 00:03:27,689 --> 00:03:30,793 I was the first officer on scene, so automatically, 33 00:03:30,793 --> 00:03:32,137 I was the lead investigator, 34 00:03:33,448 --> 00:03:34,931 so there was a lot going on in my head. 35 00:03:36,758 --> 00:03:39,965 I had to start figuring out why this happened. 36 00:03:44,344 --> 00:03:46,310 From his driver's license, 37 00:03:47,965 --> 00:03:50,137 I was able to identify the victim 38 00:03:50,758 --> 00:03:51,724 as Matthew Misener. 39 00:03:54,758 --> 00:03:57,965 Matthew didn't reside in the Clifton area, 40 00:04:00,241 --> 00:04:03,758 so at that point, I needed to figure out 41 00:04:03,758 --> 00:04:05,310 who is he connected to? 42 00:04:12,034 --> 00:04:14,172 Just after coming out of Clifton, 43 00:04:14,172 --> 00:04:17,000 the roadway is nicknamed "Horseshoe Curve," 44 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,241 because the highway goes up, 45 00:04:18,241 --> 00:04:19,931 and it looks like a giant horseshoe. 46 00:04:19,931 --> 00:04:21,827 There was no cameras, 47 00:04:21,827 --> 00:04:25,413 so it was a very ideal spot for a hit. 48 00:04:29,206 --> 00:04:30,586 The pillar of the door 49 00:04:30,586 --> 00:04:32,655 was just loaded with bullet holes. 50 00:04:33,862 --> 00:04:35,965 The grouping of the gunshots 51 00:04:35,965 --> 00:04:37,655 were within the size of a dinner plate, 52 00:04:37,655 --> 00:04:39,896 and it was very accurate. 53 00:04:40,413 --> 00:04:41,689 Very precise. 54 00:04:46,965 --> 00:04:50,413 It was like the guy had, you know, significant skill, 55 00:04:50,413 --> 00:04:51,793 - and practiced this thing. - Yeah. 56 00:04:51,793 --> 00:04:52,862 Especially to be doing that 57 00:04:52,862 --> 00:04:55,586 going 45 miles down the roadway, 58 00:04:55,586 --> 00:04:56,862 - if not faster. - Right. 59 00:04:56,862 --> 00:04:59,758 But shooting through the car, out of the passenger window, 60 00:04:59,758 --> 00:05:00,827 into the victim. 61 00:05:01,793 --> 00:05:02,586 Yeah. 62 00:05:03,655 --> 00:05:05,448 I started looking for evidence. 63 00:05:05,448 --> 00:05:06,827 What really happened here? 64 00:05:10,689 --> 00:05:13,448 Why was this man killed like this? 65 00:05:14,724 --> 00:05:15,551 It's... 66 00:05:15,551 --> 00:05:16,689 It's a heinous thing. 67 00:05:21,379 --> 00:05:23,586 Police officers told me that 68 00:05:23,586 --> 00:05:25,413 there was a woman that arrived on scene, 69 00:05:25,413 --> 00:05:29,172 and she had walked over, and looked at the victim, 70 00:05:29,172 --> 00:05:30,034 and then drove away, 71 00:05:30,827 --> 00:05:32,448 which was very suspicious. 72 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,931 Eventually, we realized that was the victim's fiancee, 73 00:05:38,724 --> 00:05:40,482 Nicole Chacon. 74 00:05:44,586 --> 00:05:47,482 She was a person of interest that we needed to talk to. 75 00:05:48,965 --> 00:05:51,965 It was very bizarre that you have 76 00:05:51,965 --> 00:05:54,068 your fiance that is on the side of the road, 77 00:05:54,068 --> 00:05:55,689 and you don't stay to be with him, 78 00:05:55,689 --> 00:05:56,517 and you leave. 79 00:05:59,034 --> 00:06:00,965 When I spoke to Nicole, 80 00:06:00,965 --> 00:06:04,103 and it appeared she was very confused. 81 00:06:04,103 --> 00:06:06,517 She was oblivious to what really happened, 82 00:06:08,275 --> 00:06:10,517 so I told her, "Nicole, 83 00:06:11,172 --> 00:06:12,103 I hate to tell you this, 84 00:06:12,103 --> 00:06:14,931 but, you know, your fiance was murdered." 85 00:06:18,793 --> 00:06:20,758 You know, I understand that there is shock, 86 00:06:20,758 --> 00:06:24,172 and you're scared, and you flee from reality, 87 00:06:24,172 --> 00:06:26,000 but she is a suspect. 88 00:06:35,551 --> 00:06:36,965 Speaking to Nicole, 89 00:06:36,965 --> 00:06:39,068 there are more questions than answers, 90 00:06:40,413 --> 00:06:44,413 but I decided to ask her, notify the next of kin. 91 00:06:49,517 --> 00:06:50,482 I answered the phone. 92 00:06:50,482 --> 00:06:52,482 It was Nicole calling me, 93 00:06:52,482 --> 00:06:53,862 and I thought it was really weird, 94 00:06:53,862 --> 00:06:55,551 'cause I've never spoke to her. 95 00:06:56,448 --> 00:06:57,379 She was like, 96 00:06:57,379 --> 00:06:58,517 "Something's happened," 97 00:06:59,172 --> 00:07:00,689 and she's like, 98 00:07:00,689 --> 00:07:02,620 "I'm gonna put the detective on the phone." 99 00:07:05,275 --> 00:07:07,482 I'm hysterical, crying. 100 00:07:09,034 --> 00:07:10,379 My relationship with my brother 101 00:07:10,379 --> 00:07:12,206 is, like, super... 102 00:07:12,206 --> 00:07:15,896 It's a strong bond, so it just hurts me a lot 103 00:07:15,896 --> 00:07:17,103 that I couldn't... 104 00:07:17,103 --> 00:07:19,517 That I couldn't protect him. 105 00:07:22,793 --> 00:07:25,103 I was like, "Who would just want to kill him?" 106 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,724 You can't believe something like that 107 00:07:34,724 --> 00:07:36,517 would happen in a small town like this. 108 00:07:36,517 --> 00:07:39,724 Everybody up here got along with him. 109 00:07:39,724 --> 00:07:42,137 I never heard anybody say anything bad about him. 110 00:07:45,724 --> 00:07:47,137 It wasn't long after 111 00:07:47,137 --> 00:07:51,655 that they let us know it wasn't an accident, 112 00:07:51,655 --> 00:07:54,034 and at that point, it's like, you're like, 113 00:07:54,034 --> 00:07:56,827 "Okay, this is obviously very malicious, 114 00:07:56,827 --> 00:07:59,862 and somebody had some intent behind it." 115 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,931 I can't make sense of it. 116 00:08:11,068 --> 00:08:12,275 I still have yet to, like, 117 00:08:12,275 --> 00:08:14,344 grieve my brother fully, completely. 118 00:08:16,241 --> 00:08:19,034 I used to see him with his kids. 119 00:08:19,034 --> 00:08:22,482 He was the most loving dad, loved to give hugs. 120 00:08:24,896 --> 00:08:26,482 When he did his selfies, 121 00:08:26,482 --> 00:08:28,103 there was really never, ever, a smile. 122 00:08:28,103 --> 00:08:30,068 He was always serious. 123 00:08:30,068 --> 00:08:32,034 And that's another selfie there of him. 124 00:08:32,862 --> 00:08:34,034 Got a little smirk. 125 00:08:36,517 --> 00:08:38,724 Every family will talk about their loved one, 126 00:08:38,724 --> 00:08:39,793 and say, you know, 127 00:08:39,793 --> 00:08:41,379 they'd give them the shirt off your back, 128 00:08:41,379 --> 00:08:44,310 but Matt was truly, like, that person, 129 00:08:45,034 --> 00:08:45,827 and... 130 00:08:46,379 --> 00:08:47,137 Sorry. 131 00:08:53,241 --> 00:08:55,482 He never showed anger, ever, 132 00:08:55,482 --> 00:08:58,448 and for him to have somebody get that mad at him, 133 00:08:58,448 --> 00:08:59,965 and just shoot his vehicle, 134 00:08:59,965 --> 00:09:03,724 I just could not, like, fathom that at all. 135 00:09:03,724 --> 00:09:04,862 I just could not believe that 136 00:09:04,862 --> 00:09:06,379 somebody would want to hurt him. 137 00:09:10,931 --> 00:09:12,310 It's a small community, right? 138 00:09:12,310 --> 00:09:14,551 Everybody knows each other, and you hear 139 00:09:14,551 --> 00:09:18,344 the gossip going around, and then the rumors start. 140 00:09:23,517 --> 00:09:24,896 From what I heard, 141 00:09:24,896 --> 00:09:26,655 he was just driving up the Horseshoe, 142 00:09:26,655 --> 00:09:29,827 and some guy pulled up right beside him, 143 00:09:29,827 --> 00:09:32,689 and started unloading inside of his vehicle. 144 00:09:33,620 --> 00:09:35,000 I can't remember the last time 145 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,758 there was a shooting in this town. 146 00:09:36,758 --> 00:09:38,965 It was a really big shock for the community. 147 00:09:38,965 --> 00:09:42,517 People keep a lot of stuff to themselves around here, 148 00:09:42,517 --> 00:09:45,413 and once rumors start flying, it's bad juju 149 00:09:45,413 --> 00:09:46,275 all the way around. 150 00:09:50,482 --> 00:09:51,965 We heard about it, 151 00:09:51,965 --> 00:09:55,103 and surmised that it was probably 152 00:09:55,103 --> 00:09:57,034 like a road rage incident. 153 00:09:57,034 --> 00:09:59,758 That's what we took it to be. 154 00:10:06,206 --> 00:10:07,586 The word spreads really fast, 155 00:10:07,586 --> 00:10:09,241 especially in a small town, 156 00:10:09,241 --> 00:10:11,206 but it's not always correct. 157 00:10:11,896 --> 00:10:13,551 As far as road rage, 158 00:10:13,551 --> 00:10:16,413 I felt that there was more to the story than that. 159 00:10:16,413 --> 00:10:19,068 It could have been that somebody driving by 160 00:10:19,068 --> 00:10:22,482 was in the passenger seat, and could have shot at him, 161 00:10:22,482 --> 00:10:25,586 or, you know, from the driver's seat. 162 00:10:31,482 --> 00:10:33,827 There's a lot of things that went through my mind 163 00:10:33,827 --> 00:10:35,862 on how this could have happened. 164 00:10:35,862 --> 00:10:39,586 You need to try to figure out, you know, why this happened, 165 00:10:42,310 --> 00:10:44,275 but at the time, 166 00:10:44,275 --> 00:10:46,379 Nicole, she was the only person 167 00:10:46,379 --> 00:10:48,379 that we believed could have been involved, 168 00:10:48,379 --> 00:10:49,620 or knew who was involved. 169 00:11:39,758 --> 00:11:42,724 When Nicole came down to the police station, 170 00:11:42,724 --> 00:11:45,379 I was focused to find out how she was involved. 171 00:12:08,068 --> 00:12:11,275 Nicole, she was our only suspect at that time, 172 00:12:11,275 --> 00:12:13,275 so I started asking her questions 173 00:12:13,275 --> 00:12:14,586 about her fiance. 174 00:12:14,586 --> 00:12:15,793 I want to know 175 00:12:15,793 --> 00:12:19,034 why would you go on scene, and leave? 176 00:12:19,034 --> 00:12:21,827 That was bizarre to not only me, 177 00:12:21,827 --> 00:12:23,137 but to everybody. 178 00:12:38,275 --> 00:12:39,862 She was very confused. 179 00:12:39,862 --> 00:12:41,517 She didn't understand 180 00:12:41,517 --> 00:12:43,586 why these questions were coming to her, 181 00:12:43,586 --> 00:12:46,103 or why she was even being questioned. 182 00:12:49,655 --> 00:12:52,172 I pulled off to the side of the road 183 00:12:52,758 --> 00:12:53,965 because I... 184 00:12:53,965 --> 00:12:56,137 I wanted to try and get a better look 185 00:12:56,137 --> 00:12:58,344 to see if I recognized the vehicle. 186 00:12:58,344 --> 00:13:00,103 I had gotten out of my car, 187 00:13:00,103 --> 00:13:02,448 and I started walking up to the scene, 188 00:13:02,448 --> 00:13:04,034 but, like, something... 189 00:13:04,034 --> 00:13:07,000 Something told me not to go up there. 190 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,724 I just got back into my car, and drove to the gas station. 191 00:13:13,310 --> 00:13:14,068 I was numb. 192 00:13:14,931 --> 00:13:16,931 I was just in denial. 193 00:13:19,827 --> 00:13:21,689 Sergeant Aguilar, she was like, 194 00:13:21,689 --> 00:13:23,241 "Tell me who you think it is," 195 00:13:23,758 --> 00:13:24,620 and so, I did. 196 00:13:24,620 --> 00:13:26,620 I looked at her, and I said, 197 00:13:26,620 --> 00:13:28,000 "The ex-wife, Georgina." 198 00:13:40,310 --> 00:13:42,517 That morning, the fire department, 199 00:13:42,517 --> 00:13:44,241 we lined up shoulder to shoulder, 200 00:13:45,586 --> 00:13:48,103 walked up and down the highway two or three times, 201 00:13:48,103 --> 00:13:50,379 looking for shell casings. 202 00:13:50,379 --> 00:13:52,482 Went down off the side into the creek, 203 00:13:53,172 --> 00:13:54,517 looking for a gun. 204 00:13:56,241 --> 00:13:58,000 Maybe the individual tossed it over. 205 00:14:00,758 --> 00:14:04,172 But there was no sign of anything like that. 206 00:14:07,275 --> 00:14:08,655 When I got up to the vehicle, 207 00:14:10,896 --> 00:14:14,000 there was two child car seats in the back seat. 208 00:14:18,310 --> 00:14:19,689 I, you know, shook my head. 209 00:14:19,689 --> 00:14:21,517 You hate to see something like that. 210 00:14:24,241 --> 00:14:28,310 As a father myself, you know, it was heartbreaking. 211 00:14:28,310 --> 00:14:31,206 There was some paperwork on the floor, 212 00:14:31,206 --> 00:14:32,172 and I grabbed it, 213 00:14:32,172 --> 00:14:34,586 and it just happened to be court papers 214 00:14:34,586 --> 00:14:38,793 for the next day, for custody of his children. 215 00:14:43,448 --> 00:14:46,275 Georgina was my brother's ex-wife. 216 00:14:47,758 --> 00:14:49,931 I think that they started having some issues. 217 00:14:50,965 --> 00:14:53,482 Georgina had it out for Nicole, 218 00:14:53,482 --> 00:14:55,896 and I think it was that jealousy, 219 00:14:55,896 --> 00:14:57,655 you know, "That used to be mine. 220 00:14:57,655 --> 00:14:58,551 I had that." 221 00:15:02,586 --> 00:15:04,586 As soon as I discovered 222 00:15:04,586 --> 00:15:06,551 there was a custody issue happening, 223 00:15:06,551 --> 00:15:08,689 it was a very big red flag for me, 224 00:15:08,689 --> 00:15:11,620 in thinking that Matthew's ex-wife, Georgina, 225 00:15:11,620 --> 00:15:14,000 might have had something to do with his homicide. 226 00:15:39,379 --> 00:15:42,862 She began telling us that she wanted Matthew 227 00:15:42,862 --> 00:15:44,206 "in their life" type thing, 228 00:15:44,206 --> 00:15:46,827 and implied that he was a good father, 229 00:15:46,827 --> 00:15:50,586 but then she said that Matthew had texted her like, 230 00:15:50,586 --> 00:15:54,068 "If anything ever happens to me, look at Nicole." 231 00:16:16,275 --> 00:16:19,000 I checked it out, and we did confirm that 232 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,896 he did send that text to Georgina. 233 00:16:20,896 --> 00:16:22,862 Why would he say this? 234 00:16:22,862 --> 00:16:25,103 Because it does imply that possibly 235 00:16:25,103 --> 00:16:28,103 Nicole had something to do with the incident. 236 00:16:29,758 --> 00:16:31,448 It looked bad. 237 00:16:31,448 --> 00:16:33,379 You know, maybe Nicole was in on it, 238 00:16:33,379 --> 00:16:36,000 and had something to do with his homicide. 239 00:16:39,793 --> 00:16:42,241 When I found out Matt was shot, 240 00:16:42,241 --> 00:16:45,586 truthfully, we thought Nicole had something to do with it. 241 00:16:46,827 --> 00:16:47,827 Nicole and Matt, 242 00:16:47,827 --> 00:16:50,655 they had a pretty volatile relationship. 243 00:16:50,655 --> 00:16:52,344 They were constantly fighting, 244 00:16:52,344 --> 00:16:53,551 and breaking up. 245 00:17:00,586 --> 00:17:01,758 When I remembered I was reading 246 00:17:01,758 --> 00:17:05,379 the text messages between Georgina and Matt, 247 00:17:05,379 --> 00:17:07,827 'cause I was just, like, "Oh, my God. 248 00:17:07,827 --> 00:17:09,379 They're gonna think it's me." 249 00:17:11,344 --> 00:17:15,689 It was one of our arguments, and Matt made me so mad, 250 00:17:15,689 --> 00:17:19,034 and that's why he told Georgina what he did. 251 00:17:22,724 --> 00:17:24,793 You could tell in the messages 252 00:17:24,793 --> 00:17:28,620 that Nicole and Matthew did go at it quite a bit. 253 00:17:28,620 --> 00:17:31,482 They had a very rough relationship, at points. 254 00:17:35,103 --> 00:17:37,862 We decided that it was not likely 255 00:17:37,862 --> 00:17:40,137 that Nicole was an actual shooter, 256 00:17:41,620 --> 00:17:44,344 so I asked if she had any further information 257 00:17:44,344 --> 00:17:46,551 that would help us find who the suspect is. 258 00:17:56,103 --> 00:18:00,241 And they asked me if he owed anybody at work money, 259 00:18:00,241 --> 00:18:04,310 or if somebody hated him, 260 00:18:04,310 --> 00:18:07,000 and I told them, "Nothing that I can think of," 261 00:18:08,517 --> 00:18:11,931 but he has a coworker, Sam. 262 00:18:11,931 --> 00:18:16,586 They carpool, and it was Sam's day to drive. 263 00:18:21,655 --> 00:18:23,793 It's kind of strange that there would be 264 00:18:23,793 --> 00:18:26,655 an individual that drives with Matthew every day, 265 00:18:26,655 --> 00:18:28,896 and then, on the day that he gets murdered, 266 00:18:28,896 --> 00:18:29,793 he's not there, 267 00:18:29,793 --> 00:18:31,413 and that was very strange to us, 268 00:18:32,310 --> 00:18:33,896 so we were thinking 269 00:18:33,896 --> 00:18:35,620 "We have another suspect." 270 00:18:40,482 --> 00:18:42,689 The police, they questioned me, 271 00:18:42,689 --> 00:18:46,724 because I called off, so obviously, 272 00:18:46,724 --> 00:18:48,896 they thought I knew something of what was going on, 273 00:18:48,896 --> 00:18:49,896 or I had a part of it, 274 00:18:49,896 --> 00:18:52,172 like I was a suspect of some kind. 275 00:18:53,379 --> 00:18:56,344 I told the police I wasn't at work 276 00:18:56,344 --> 00:18:58,517 because I had some plumbing issues 277 00:18:58,517 --> 00:19:00,448 with one of my rentals. 278 00:19:02,931 --> 00:19:06,034 Sam told me that he owned some other property, 279 00:19:06,034 --> 00:19:09,793 and that day, they were having some maintenance issues 280 00:19:09,793 --> 00:19:11,896 that needed to be attended to immediately. 281 00:19:14,586 --> 00:19:18,344 I actually had to get a letter from the tenant 282 00:19:18,344 --> 00:19:21,448 saying that I was there at those hours of the day, 283 00:19:22,448 --> 00:19:24,620 and I told her, 284 00:19:24,620 --> 00:19:27,068 "I didn't have anything to do with it," and... 285 00:19:27,586 --> 00:19:28,965 And I was cleared, 286 00:19:31,172 --> 00:19:32,965 but I feel bad, 287 00:19:32,965 --> 00:19:36,172 because I was friends with Matt. 288 00:19:36,172 --> 00:19:37,931 When you work up here in the mine, 289 00:19:38,827 --> 00:19:41,137 the guys up here are like family as well. 290 00:19:43,068 --> 00:19:45,034 After talking to Sam, it was just 291 00:19:45,034 --> 00:19:47,896 kind of a coincidence, I guess, that he wasn't there. 292 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,034 But we still have Nicole and Georgina 293 00:19:52,034 --> 00:19:53,793 as potential suspects, 294 00:19:55,172 --> 00:19:59,793 and so I decided to look again into both of these women, 295 00:20:02,413 --> 00:20:04,034 but we don't have any witnesses, 296 00:20:04,965 --> 00:20:05,827 so I'm thinking, 297 00:20:05,827 --> 00:20:07,448 "How are we gonna solve this case?" 298 00:20:19,689 --> 00:20:21,000 Used to bring my kids up here 299 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,344 to play with Georgina's kids. 300 00:20:24,620 --> 00:20:26,310 We had a lot of good times in this place. 301 00:20:26,931 --> 00:20:28,482 Probably the last time 302 00:20:28,482 --> 00:20:30,724 I was at this park was with Georgina. 303 00:20:32,620 --> 00:20:33,862 We were 304 00:20:33,862 --> 00:20:36,206 sitting at that bench over there, under the shade, 305 00:20:36,206 --> 00:20:37,827 and we had, the kids were playing. 306 00:20:37,827 --> 00:20:42,965 She had told me that Nicole had showed up at her house, knocked on her door. 307 00:20:42,965 --> 00:20:45,758 Nicole said, "I'm about to crush your world." 308 00:20:46,793 --> 00:20:49,724 And she had told her about the affair 309 00:20:49,724 --> 00:20:51,206 that her and Matt had been having. 310 00:20:54,344 --> 00:20:57,172 And it did crush her world. 311 00:20:58,379 --> 00:21:00,793 And she was telling me how devastating she was. 312 00:21:00,793 --> 00:21:02,344 How he could do this to her. 313 00:21:07,517 --> 00:21:11,137 Georgina and Nicole had a feud and they hated each other. 314 00:21:11,137 --> 00:21:13,551 And it all revolved around Matthew, 315 00:21:13,551 --> 00:21:14,896 who got Matthew. 316 00:21:16,793 --> 00:21:20,586 It was this wild and crazy emotional battle. 317 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,758 I don't have any evidence, but my gut is telling me, 318 00:21:26,758 --> 00:21:29,931 between the two of them we'll find out the truth 319 00:21:29,931 --> 00:21:31,517 of who killed Matthew Misener. 320 00:21:41,448 --> 00:21:46,551 Georgina, ultimately her goal was to get, have Matt back. 321 00:21:46,551 --> 00:21:49,000 There was one weekend Georgina called me up and said, "Guess what?" 322 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,724 And I said, "What?" She said, "Me and Matt are getting back together." 323 00:21:52,275 --> 00:21:53,793 "What?" 324 00:21:53,793 --> 00:21:56,551 I said and she says, "Yeah, he's over here, he spent the weekend." 325 00:21:56,551 --> 00:21:59,448 But in the end, he would end up back with Nicole. 326 00:22:01,862 --> 00:22:03,793 I told 'em, "Y'all need to grow up. 327 00:22:03,793 --> 00:22:05,344 You guys act like you're in high school 328 00:22:05,344 --> 00:22:07,241 and you're fighting over a, same boy." 329 00:22:09,551 --> 00:22:14,103 Georgina did portray that it was Nicole that had broke up the family. 330 00:22:14,103 --> 00:22:17,931 but I had Georgina's back because she was the mother of his kids 331 00:22:17,931 --> 00:22:19,482 and those were my nieces and nephews 332 00:22:19,482 --> 00:22:22,793 and I am one of those that family is everything to me. 333 00:22:24,689 --> 00:22:27,172 My mom and my sister actually both admitted 334 00:22:27,172 --> 00:22:30,448 they were taking Georgina's side 335 00:22:30,448 --> 00:22:33,034 because they thought my brother was in the wrong. 336 00:22:34,172 --> 00:22:36,379 That kind of broke my heart a little bit 337 00:22:36,379 --> 00:22:39,310 to hear it and I think about that on a daily basis. 338 00:22:40,862 --> 00:22:44,344 I never really had the chance to kinda decide one way or the other, 339 00:22:44,344 --> 00:22:46,655 but I, I definitely feel in my heart 340 00:22:46,655 --> 00:22:49,551 that I would have had my brother's back one hundred percent. 341 00:22:57,896 --> 00:23:02,241 For me, I know Matt and Nicole. 342 00:23:02,241 --> 00:23:05,034 I think they were good together. 343 00:23:05,034 --> 00:23:06,862 They, they were always happy. 344 00:23:09,103 --> 00:23:11,827 Nicole was a cool person to be around with. 345 00:23:11,827 --> 00:23:13,758 She was a cool person to talk to. 346 00:23:13,758 --> 00:23:18,275 Good to know and I think they were one of the best couples I've seen. 347 00:23:23,827 --> 00:23:27,206 I worked with Matt the very first day 348 00:23:27,206 --> 00:23:29,379 that I got on as a maintenance helper. 349 00:23:31,620 --> 00:23:35,965 If Matt needed a wrench or just a crowbar, 350 00:23:35,965 --> 00:23:38,551 you know, I picked it up and handed it to him. 351 00:23:41,206 --> 00:23:45,862 So, what first caught my eye was his personality. 352 00:23:47,275 --> 00:23:50,551 He was just funny. 353 00:23:54,068 --> 00:23:57,344 Lots of times when he was off, 354 00:23:57,344 --> 00:24:03,034 he was going to Tucson to go visit his kids. 355 00:24:05,413 --> 00:24:07,206 And his kids were everything to him. 356 00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:14,862 I didn't really know much about the custody battle until he took a day off. 357 00:24:14,862 --> 00:24:16,620 He's like, "Well, I'm not gonna be here." 358 00:24:16,620 --> 00:24:17,827 I was like, "Hey, what's going on?" 359 00:24:17,827 --> 00:24:20,000 He's like, "Well, I got court." 360 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,413 I was like, "Oh, everything good?" 361 00:24:22,413 --> 00:24:24,068 He's like, "No, I'm trying to get my kids." 362 00:24:24,068 --> 00:24:27,103 He's like, "My ex-wife, Georgina, has had the kids 363 00:24:27,103 --> 00:24:31,068 and I'm trying to get them full, full custody." 364 00:24:35,551 --> 00:24:39,241 I was on his side. a hundred percent. 365 00:24:44,586 --> 00:24:46,068 At this point in the investigation, 366 00:24:46,068 --> 00:24:49,793 we were kinda worried because we don't have any witnesses. 367 00:24:49,793 --> 00:24:52,758 It's just a shooting on the side of the road and they're gone. 368 00:24:52,758 --> 00:24:54,448 So, I thinking, "How are we gonna 369 00:24:54,448 --> 00:24:57,482 catch this perpetrator who had pulled the trigger?" 370 00:24:58,379 --> 00:25:00,034 I go up to the horseshoe curve 371 00:25:00,034 --> 00:25:02,586 and I start looking for evidence on the scene. 372 00:25:06,655 --> 00:25:08,931 Our theory at the time was our shooter 373 00:25:08,931 --> 00:25:12,000 was actually parked in this dirt parking lot over here. 374 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:18,068 And he was waiting for, uh, Mr. Misener's vehicle to cross onto US 191. 375 00:25:18,068 --> 00:25:20,586 These are the cameras that would have caught, uh, 376 00:25:20,586 --> 00:25:23,448 the shooter sitting in that dirt parking lot. 377 00:25:23,448 --> 00:25:26,103 Unfortunately, these cameras at the time were not working. 378 00:25:28,275 --> 00:25:31,241 The cameras from Circle K were broken. 379 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,586 Very disappointing. 380 00:25:33,586 --> 00:25:37,068 We lost that incredibly good evidence which we could have had. 381 00:25:38,655 --> 00:25:40,862 Fortunately, Clifton is a small town 382 00:25:40,862 --> 00:25:43,000 and rumors spread very quickly. 383 00:25:44,586 --> 00:25:46,172 A man at the mine called me 384 00:25:46,172 --> 00:25:48,793 and he told me that this white sedan 385 00:25:48,793 --> 00:25:52,172 that had driven past Mr. Misener's vehicle 386 00:25:52,172 --> 00:25:54,896 made a U-turn and drove southbound. 387 00:25:57,551 --> 00:25:59,448 So, I made a phone call. 388 00:26:00,724 --> 00:26:05,758 Shari Aguilar was inside the interview room with Nicole 389 00:26:05,758 --> 00:26:07,793 and I just kinda interrupted the interview 390 00:26:07,793 --> 00:26:11,068 and said, "Hey, Nicole, I need to know something here. 391 00:26:11,068 --> 00:26:16,413 Is there anybody driving a white car that would wish you or Mr. Misener harm?" 392 00:26:18,034 --> 00:26:20,068 And she says, "Well, yes." 393 00:26:20,068 --> 00:26:22,551 And she says, "Uh, actually there was a man 394 00:26:22,551 --> 00:26:26,448 that had been taking pictures of my fiancé's license plate." 395 00:26:29,758 --> 00:26:34,206 Nicole showed us the picture of this vehicle that Matthew had taken 396 00:26:34,206 --> 00:26:36,206 of a guy taking photographs of him. 397 00:26:37,241 --> 00:26:39,379 The picture actually showed a plate number. 398 00:26:39,379 --> 00:26:43,379 And we were able to run that immediately to find out who owned that vehicle. 399 00:26:48,137 --> 00:26:49,965 One of the owners on the registration 400 00:26:49,965 --> 00:26:52,103 actually had some warrants out for his arrest. 401 00:26:54,482 --> 00:26:57,482 Eduardo Montano from Tucson, Arizona. 402 00:27:00,068 --> 00:27:02,068 That was the real break of the case. 403 00:27:05,517 --> 00:27:12,103 I was excited that we found a piece to this puzzle. This is a good lead. 404 00:27:12,103 --> 00:27:17,655 Why would someone from Tucson be here, where Matthew works, to come after him? 405 00:27:18,724 --> 00:27:20,379 How is Eduardo involved? 406 00:27:21,827 --> 00:27:25,620 How is he connected with Nicole or with Georgina? 407 00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:48,068 We headed to Tucson to interview Mr. Montano. 408 00:27:50,344 --> 00:27:53,724 I had that gut feeling that this is the man we were looking for. 409 00:27:57,965 --> 00:27:59,758 As we got here, 410 00:27:59,758 --> 00:28:01,827 there were patrol cars all along the side of the road, 411 00:28:01,827 --> 00:28:03,896 detectives walking back and forth. 412 00:28:03,896 --> 00:28:06,689 There was a patrol car here on the side of the road 413 00:28:06,689 --> 00:28:09,034 and Mr. Montano was in the back seat of it. 414 00:28:12,379 --> 00:28:14,931 That's when I opened the door and saw Eduardo for the first time. 415 00:28:16,344 --> 00:28:19,413 He wasn't upset, he wasn't crying, he didn't look angry. 416 00:28:19,413 --> 00:28:22,000 It was a huge relief that we had him in custody. 417 00:28:25,586 --> 00:28:28,586 Sergeant Aguilar left the scene with Montano 418 00:28:28,586 --> 00:28:31,965 to do an interview. I stayed at the house. 419 00:28:31,965 --> 00:28:35,172 I went to the front door and met with the grandfather. 420 00:28:36,448 --> 00:28:38,103 And I said, "Well, your grandson 421 00:28:38,103 --> 00:28:41,034 is a prime suspect in a homicide." 422 00:28:41,034 --> 00:28:43,448 And he was just dumbfounded. 423 00:28:43,448 --> 00:28:47,241 He says, "That couldn't be Eduardo. 424 00:28:47,241 --> 00:28:49,827 He is the most respectful young man. 425 00:28:49,827 --> 00:28:52,206 He was a haul truck driver at the mine." 426 00:28:57,517 --> 00:28:59,413 Have a seat. 427 00:28:59,413 --> 00:29:01,758 As I'm getting information from the grandfather, 428 00:29:01,758 --> 00:29:05,758 I'm texting Shari so she can ask questions during the interview. 429 00:29:21,206 --> 00:29:26,551 Eduardo did admit to being in the Safford, Clifton area for a job. 430 00:29:26,551 --> 00:29:28,689 I'm asking him who the supervisor is. 431 00:30:08,620 --> 00:30:12,344 When we went into Eduardo's bedroom, 432 00:30:12,344 --> 00:30:17,931 he had a pistol that was on the top of his closet. 433 00:30:17,931 --> 00:30:21,206 His grandfather told me that Eduardo was an excellent shot. 434 00:30:22,655 --> 00:30:26,310 And there was actually fourteen rounds missing in that pistol. 435 00:30:31,172 --> 00:30:33,448 And then very quickly we discovered that 436 00:30:33,448 --> 00:30:36,448 Mr. Montano never worked at the mine. 437 00:30:38,551 --> 00:30:42,413 His alibi uh, was, was a lie. 438 00:30:48,344 --> 00:30:52,310 It was very clear to me that Mr. Montano's life 439 00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:54,827 seemed like it was one massive lie. 440 00:30:54,827 --> 00:30:59,758 Everything about Mr. Montano did not add up. 441 00:30:59,758 --> 00:31:03,517 And then his grandfather told me that Eduardo was always asking for money 442 00:31:03,517 --> 00:31:05,413 because he said he was paying 443 00:31:05,413 --> 00:31:08,655 these huge child support payments to his ex-wife. 444 00:31:10,103 --> 00:31:13,137 So, I went to talk to his ex-wife. 445 00:31:13,137 --> 00:31:16,310 She had told me that Eduardo had left her for another woman 446 00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:18,758 and she believed her name was Georgina. 447 00:31:44,206 --> 00:31:46,103 I honestly truly believed we had 448 00:31:46,103 --> 00:31:49,620 the suspect who, who committed the shooting. 449 00:31:49,620 --> 00:31:52,862 And that point, we needed to figure out if he acted alone 450 00:31:52,862 --> 00:31:57,379 or if Georgina was involved in some way. 451 00:31:57,379 --> 00:32:01,413 My gut is telling me there's something going on between the two of them 452 00:32:01,413 --> 00:32:04,275 in leading to this homicide of Mr. Matthew Misener. 453 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,413 So, we immediately wanna speak with Georgina. 454 00:32:24,724 --> 00:32:28,344 And then she starts telling me about her relationship with Eduardo. 455 00:32:28,344 --> 00:32:29,793 She said she didn't really know him too well. 456 00:32:29,793 --> 00:32:32,379 They had dated for a week and they just stayed friends. 457 00:32:39,620 --> 00:32:41,586 First thing I think, I remember her saying is, 458 00:32:41,586 --> 00:32:45,068 "I can't believe Eduardo, I can't believe he would do this." 459 00:33:00,310 --> 00:33:03,793 My intuition with her was, "She's not telling me the truth." 460 00:33:03,793 --> 00:33:05,413 And of course, Eduardo... 461 00:33:05,413 --> 00:33:07,034 How are you doing? 462 00:33:07,034 --> 00:33:10,068 ...he denies that she has anything to do with what happened. 463 00:33:10,068 --> 00:33:14,448 But I'm sure there is more to the story than what they both were saying. 464 00:33:24,172 --> 00:33:27,344 It just didn't add up, everything pointed to Georgina. 465 00:33:32,172 --> 00:33:34,413 I'm so frustrated at this point. 466 00:33:34,413 --> 00:33:37,689 I know that Georgina is involved in this homicide. 467 00:33:37,689 --> 00:33:39,379 We know she's lying to us, 468 00:33:39,379 --> 00:33:41,862 but we don't have the evidence to arrest her. 469 00:33:41,862 --> 00:33:46,172 And the consequences of this could be Eduardo takes the fall 470 00:33:46,172 --> 00:33:48,000 and Georgina gets away free. 471 00:33:52,275 --> 00:33:55,827 I was focused on, "What do I need to do to be able to connect that dot 472 00:33:55,827 --> 00:33:57,931 to show that she was involved?" 473 00:34:08,275 --> 00:34:10,448 I know from prior investigations, 474 00:34:10,448 --> 00:34:13,034 people communicate through text messages and then delete them. 475 00:34:14,068 --> 00:34:15,586 So, I'm getting search warrants 476 00:34:15,586 --> 00:34:17,758 for the cell phones to try to retrieve any messages 477 00:34:17,758 --> 00:34:21,241 that might connect the dots to Georgina being involved. 478 00:34:23,172 --> 00:34:26,793 And the first text messages that Sergeant Aguilar showed me 479 00:34:26,793 --> 00:34:30,620 said, "We shouldn't be talking about this with our phones 480 00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:32,724 because this stuff is kept on record." 481 00:34:37,793 --> 00:34:41,034 It was unbelievable and we kinda chuckled to ourselves, saying, 482 00:34:41,034 --> 00:34:45,000 "How could she, uh, you know, conspire to commit a murder 483 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,206 and put something out like this?" 484 00:34:50,827 --> 00:34:53,310 You know, bad for her, great for us. 485 00:34:57,344 --> 00:35:00,896 You can see that they're conspiring for this to happen. 486 00:35:01,724 --> 00:35:03,724 And that moment, we, we had her. 487 00:35:03,724 --> 00:35:05,068 We, we had her connected. 488 00:35:35,724 --> 00:35:39,620 We discovered that several text messages mentioned 489 00:35:39,620 --> 00:35:43,793 Eduardo not wanting to do the, the assas-- the assassination. 490 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,137 Eduardo told her, "I don't feel like I can do this. 491 00:35:50,137 --> 00:35:52,344 I don't think I have it in me." 492 00:35:52,344 --> 00:35:56,172 And the next message from Georgina says, 493 00:35:56,172 --> 00:35:59,206 "You gotta do this, if you don't do this, you're not a man. 494 00:35:59,206 --> 00:36:02,862 Don't worry about coming back to me, I don't want you here." 495 00:36:30,379 --> 00:36:31,965 I have a warrant for her arrest. 496 00:36:31,965 --> 00:36:34,103 When she clasps those handcuffs on, 497 00:36:34,103 --> 00:36:37,413 it just felt like a, a sigh of relief. 498 00:36:42,517 --> 00:36:44,793 But there's one more mystery left. 499 00:36:46,068 --> 00:36:47,517 Why? 500 00:36:47,517 --> 00:36:51,241 Why Eduardo did this homicide for Georgina. 501 00:36:51,241 --> 00:36:53,517 I will not talk to you without the presence of a lawyer. 502 00:36:53,517 --> 00:36:54,413 Understood. 503 00:36:55,275 --> 00:36:56,517 It didn't make any sense. 504 00:36:56,517 --> 00:37:01,000 Eduardo wasn't friends, didn't know our family. 505 00:37:02,137 --> 00:37:06,068 So, the fact that he committed this crime 506 00:37:06,068 --> 00:37:09,655 and murdered my brother was just baffling. 507 00:37:09,655 --> 00:37:12,862 He had no rhyme or reason to do something like that 508 00:37:12,862 --> 00:37:17,655 and then you realize Georgina and him had that relationship, 509 00:37:17,655 --> 00:37:20,310 and then you're like, "She had to have been the mastermind." 510 00:37:21,862 --> 00:37:24,034 According to Eduardo's brother, 511 00:37:24,034 --> 00:37:27,275 Eduardo had always had a crush on Georgina. 512 00:37:27,275 --> 00:37:29,310 They actually went to high school together, 513 00:37:29,310 --> 00:37:31,586 and he's always wanted to be with her. 514 00:37:32,896 --> 00:37:34,620 She knew that she could play Eduardo. 515 00:37:34,620 --> 00:37:37,586 She knew that he had a troubled childhood. 516 00:37:39,241 --> 00:37:42,344 "How can I get Eduardo to kill Mr. Misener?" 517 00:37:42,344 --> 00:37:45,241 "Well, I'm gonna tell him that's he's treated my kids 518 00:37:45,241 --> 00:37:47,551 just like he was treated when he was a kid." 519 00:37:47,551 --> 00:37:51,379 And how he could be a hero to her children 520 00:37:51,379 --> 00:37:53,586 by killing Mr. Misener. 521 00:37:58,862 --> 00:38:00,896 In my belief, that's what happened. 522 00:38:08,965 --> 00:38:12,379 Georgina, she, she was good 523 00:38:12,379 --> 00:38:15,482 at manipulating people and lying. 524 00:38:15,482 --> 00:38:20,620 Georgina has other people to do her dirty work for her. 525 00:38:20,620 --> 00:38:27,517 I believe that Eduardo was convinced that he was going to protect the kids. 526 00:38:28,896 --> 00:38:31,896 And that is why he did what he did. 527 00:38:34,724 --> 00:38:36,551 The police department had reached out to us, 528 00:38:36,551 --> 00:38:40,000 letting us know that they did have the suspect in custody. 529 00:38:41,965 --> 00:38:45,620 And we just couldn't believe it. 530 00:38:45,620 --> 00:38:49,620 It, not even a, crossed my mind that it had been her. 531 00:38:53,206 --> 00:38:57,379 In this job, I've seen people do some really messed up things. 532 00:38:57,379 --> 00:38:59,310 Out of love, out of fear. 533 00:39:01,586 --> 00:39:03,965 Um, once Matthew filed for custody, 534 00:39:03,965 --> 00:39:07,137 I believe Georgina, she was truly afraid of losing her children. 535 00:39:10,137 --> 00:39:11,931 When you start putting things together 536 00:39:11,931 --> 00:39:15,827 about, about Georgina, it all made sense now. 537 00:39:15,827 --> 00:39:19,620 But how somebody could think they would get something 538 00:39:19,620 --> 00:39:23,241 out of killing the father of their children 539 00:39:23,241 --> 00:39:25,034 made absolutely no sense to me. 540 00:39:36,517 --> 00:39:39,586 The judgement of this court sentences Eduardo Montano 541 00:39:39,586 --> 00:39:41,551 to second degree murder, which is a class 1 felony. 542 00:39:49,965 --> 00:39:53,896 When they gave him his sentencing, I was happy. 543 00:39:53,896 --> 00:39:56,206 He's doing 34 years. 544 00:39:56,206 --> 00:39:58,482 You know what, that's good 'cause you got a, 545 00:39:58,482 --> 00:40:00,758 you got a crazy guy out of the streets, 546 00:40:00,758 --> 00:40:02,448 and he ain't gonna hurt nobody. 547 00:40:15,137 --> 00:40:21,379 When they said they were giving her the maximum years for murder, the 25 years, 548 00:40:21,379 --> 00:40:23,724 that was the happiest thing I heard. 549 00:40:23,724 --> 00:40:26,620 I really hope they rot in there for what they did. 550 00:40:30,586 --> 00:40:34,793 Georgina ruined the lives of so many people. 551 00:40:34,793 --> 00:40:37,137 I mean, his poor kids, I just... 552 00:40:38,379 --> 00:40:40,172 They're without a mom and a dad now. 553 00:40:41,551 --> 00:40:43,034 For what? 554 00:40:43,034 --> 00:40:45,275 You know, what benefit did she get out of that? 555 00:40:47,482 --> 00:40:49,206 I, I see no benefit. 556 00:40:57,379 --> 00:41:01,965 I have a lot of rage in me because I trusted Georgina. 557 00:41:03,448 --> 00:41:07,482 She made me believe that my brother was this bad person. 558 00:41:10,172 --> 00:41:12,931 You know, I'm the oldest, I should have protected him. 559 00:41:22,517 --> 00:41:25,137 This is a picture of when all of us, 560 00:41:25,137 --> 00:41:28,517 all five of the kids and Matt, went to Apple Annie's 561 00:41:28,517 --> 00:41:32,344 for Halloween to pick out pumpkins. 562 00:41:32,344 --> 00:41:35,275 We were all together, just as a happy family. 563 00:41:35,275 --> 00:41:39,344 That was all that we both wanted, was... 564 00:41:39,344 --> 00:41:43,344 ...all of our kids together, us together, just having a good time. 565 00:41:45,586 --> 00:41:49,000 This is a picture of when he took me out on a date 566 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,793 and he was like, "Take a picture of my eyes." 567 00:41:51,344 --> 00:41:53,000 So, I did and... 568 00:41:54,517 --> 00:41:56,275 And I have 'em tattooed on my arm. 569 00:41:58,655 --> 00:41:59,689 He was... 570 00:42:00,517 --> 00:42:03,172 ...just funny, goofy. 571 00:42:03,172 --> 00:42:05,137 Just amazing. 572 00:42:05,137 --> 00:42:08,379 Very considerate, very selfless. 573 00:42:08,379 --> 00:42:10,448 Just always thought about other people, 574 00:42:10,448 --> 00:42:12,413 making sure that they were okay. 45300

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