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I got it. 2 00:01:45,522 --> 00:01:48,024 It doesn't bend well, that's all. 3 00:01:48,107 --> 00:01:50,151 The right knee is the worst one. 4 00:01:50,235 --> 00:01:51,653 There you go. 5 00:01:51,736 --> 00:01:54,197 You skinny guys will have to sit at the end. 6 00:01:58,368 --> 00:02:01,830 Dick, you've been doing this 7 00:02:01,913 --> 00:02:03,540 probably longer than any of us. 8 00:02:03,623 --> 00:02:06,376 I mean, you must have some stories about... 9 00:02:06,459 --> 00:02:08,044 Oh, sure. 10 00:02:08,127 --> 00:02:10,338 This little boy was waiting... 11 00:02:10,421 --> 00:02:12,215 In line. 12 00:02:12,298 --> 00:02:16,094 And he was just jumping, and he held his hands, 13 00:02:16,177 --> 00:02:19,389 and he was smiling like crazy, you know? 14 00:02:19,472 --> 00:02:23,893 And, like, he just could not wait to get to see Santa. 15 00:02:23,977 --> 00:02:26,855 And so, finally, it's his turn. 16 00:02:26,938 --> 00:02:28,898 And I says, "And so how are you?" 17 00:02:28,982 --> 00:02:31,734 And he says, "I pooped!" 18 00:02:34,779 --> 00:02:36,155 So I've got one. 19 00:02:36,239 --> 00:02:38,199 A lot of times they'll say, 20 00:02:38,283 --> 00:02:41,578 "All right, if you're the real Santa, what's my name?" 21 00:02:41,661 --> 00:02:43,246 Oh, I got that one. 22 00:02:43,329 --> 00:02:46,291 And usually what I say is, "Listen, I only know 23 00:02:46,374 --> 00:02:50,920 "the names of the children on the nice list. 24 00:02:51,004 --> 00:02:53,298 I don't know your name." 25 00:02:56,092 --> 00:02:58,052 So I got a call to book a Santa. 26 00:02:58,136 --> 00:03:00,722 And she said, "Is he white?" 27 00:03:00,805 --> 00:03:05,560 And I was like, "Well, yeah, I mean 28 00:03:05,643 --> 00:03:09,272 all the Santas I have are white." 29 00:03:09,355 --> 00:03:13,568 So I'm thinking about trying to bring on people 30 00:03:13,651 --> 00:03:14,819 who can... 31 00:03:14,903 --> 00:03:16,529 So you can offer Santas 32 00:03:16,613 --> 00:03:19,824 who aren't kind of the cookie cutter, 33 00:03:19,908 --> 00:03:23,828 white, 65 years old, fat. 34 00:03:25,872 --> 00:03:28,124 Now, some clients will disagree 35 00:03:28,207 --> 00:03:31,210 because they have a very specific thing 36 00:03:31,294 --> 00:03:33,046 they want in their Santa. 37 00:03:33,129 --> 00:03:34,398 The way I explained it one time 38 00:03:34,422 --> 00:03:36,299 when I got challenged on it was, 39 00:03:36,382 --> 00:03:39,427 well, I started with the history of Santa, okay? 40 00:03:39,510 --> 00:03:41,846 Santa originated 41 00:03:41,930 --> 00:03:44,641 in the European continent, 42 00:03:44,724 --> 00:03:49,062 and the predominant population was white. 43 00:03:49,145 --> 00:03:50,313 So Santa would be white. 44 00:03:50,396 --> 00:03:51,689 - Actually... - That's wrong. 45 00:03:51,773 --> 00:03:55,818 Jesus Christ and St. Nicholas 46 00:03:55,902 --> 00:03:58,988 would have been brown, not white. 47 00:03:59,072 --> 00:04:00,657 I'm talking about trying to explain 48 00:04:00,740 --> 00:04:01,908 to a four-year-old child 49 00:04:01,991 --> 00:04:04,494 why she can't have a Black Santa. 50 00:04:04,577 --> 00:04:07,413 It doesn't matter. 51 00:04:07,497 --> 00:04:11,292 It just doesn't matter whether they're gay, 52 00:04:11,376 --> 00:04:15,838 they're white, they're Jewish, they're Black. 53 00:04:15,922 --> 00:04:18,508 Being the oldest member of this group, 54 00:04:18,591 --> 00:04:21,344 for my generation, at first, 55 00:04:21,427 --> 00:04:24,847 this was a little difficult to accept. 56 00:04:24,931 --> 00:04:28,851 But God created no junk. 57 00:04:28,935 --> 00:04:30,061 You know? 58 00:04:30,144 --> 00:04:32,188 So it doesn't matter. 59 00:04:45,910 --> 00:04:47,662 Oh, about ten years ago, 60 00:04:47,745 --> 00:04:51,207 we created the New England Santa Society. 61 00:04:51,290 --> 00:04:54,252 And it's open for Santas of all types, 62 00:04:54,335 --> 00:04:58,715 Mrs. Clauses, elves, and other holiday performers. 63 00:04:59,924 --> 00:05:01,884 We have a lot of really experienced Santas. 64 00:05:01,968 --> 00:05:06,055 I mean, we have Santas who have been doing it 30, 40, 50 years. 65 00:05:06,139 --> 00:05:08,474 So we created a school, 66 00:05:08,558 --> 00:05:11,436 which is now called Santa Camp. 67 00:05:11,519 --> 00:05:14,313 It's starting to become more visible 68 00:05:14,397 --> 00:05:17,358 and we're starting to do much more promotion of it. 69 00:05:17,442 --> 00:05:20,361 So this is one of the most popular top reasons 70 00:05:20,445 --> 00:05:21,904 to come to Santa Camp. 71 00:05:21,988 --> 00:05:24,907 We have some photos. We have some videos. 72 00:05:24,991 --> 00:05:28,703 We do have our kazoo band. 73 00:05:32,915 --> 00:05:35,209 One of the things I think really sets 74 00:05:35,293 --> 00:05:36,753 our Santa school apart 75 00:05:36,836 --> 00:05:40,048 is that we have been trying to reach out 76 00:05:40,131 --> 00:05:42,884 to more and more types of Santas 77 00:05:42,967 --> 00:05:44,927 and Santas from different backgrounds, 78 00:05:45,011 --> 00:05:46,971 just 79 00:05:47,055 --> 00:05:50,224 people who are different. 80 00:05:50,308 --> 00:05:54,395 But I think sometimes the issue we run into 81 00:05:54,479 --> 00:05:58,274 is that people just have a very 82 00:05:58,357 --> 00:06:01,569 specific idea of what Santa should look like. 83 00:06:01,652 --> 00:06:06,449 And I think a lot of times, it's their childhood Santa, 84 00:06:06,532 --> 00:06:09,202 the one they remember as kids. 85 00:06:15,333 --> 00:06:18,753 Does Santa need to have a look? 86 00:06:18,836 --> 00:06:20,379 Well, he's certainly got to look 87 00:06:20,463 --> 00:06:21,756 something like Santa Claus. 88 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,510 It must be a red suit, black belt, beard. 89 00:06:25,593 --> 00:06:29,806 And it's much better if they can pull it, okay? 90 00:06:29,889 --> 00:06:31,390 You can get, like, a heat iron, 91 00:06:31,474 --> 00:06:34,560 and you just kind of curl it and roll it under. 92 00:06:34,644 --> 00:06:36,979 The belly can be padded. 93 00:06:37,063 --> 00:06:39,899 Mine is real. I can't hide that. 94 00:06:39,982 --> 00:06:42,360 I think people definitely have an expectation 95 00:06:42,443 --> 00:06:43,986 of how Santa should look. 96 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:46,447 A few years ago, I understand that they did hire 97 00:06:46,531 --> 00:06:48,741 a Black Santa at the Mall of America. 98 00:06:48,825 --> 00:06:50,910 And apparently it didn't go so well, 99 00:06:50,993 --> 00:06:53,496 and there was a lot of pushback about it, 100 00:06:53,579 --> 00:06:57,458 and not everybody was thrilled with the idea. 101 00:06:57,542 --> 00:06:59,794 A Black Santa Claus at the Mall of America, 102 00:06:59,877 --> 00:07:01,337 the country's largest mall, 103 00:07:01,420 --> 00:07:04,048 is causing a torrent of hateful, racist comments. 104 00:07:04,132 --> 00:07:08,636 With some people online even calling for a boycott. 105 00:07:08,719 --> 00:07:10,930 There was some talk on the Internet, 106 00:07:11,013 --> 00:07:13,474 not from other Santas. 107 00:07:13,558 --> 00:07:18,354 Unfortunately, in America, we're not quite at the stage 108 00:07:18,437 --> 00:07:22,984 where everybody can be accepted as Santa Claus. 109 00:07:23,067 --> 00:07:26,279 I just don't know why it's necessary. 110 00:07:26,362 --> 00:07:29,198 I don't understand why people feel 111 00:07:29,282 --> 00:07:31,033 they need a Black Santa Claus. 112 00:07:31,117 --> 00:07:33,953 Changing the race is cultural appropriation. 113 00:07:35,413 --> 00:07:38,082 For all you kids watching at home, Santa just is white. 114 00:07:38,166 --> 00:07:39,709 How do you just revise it, 115 00:07:39,792 --> 00:07:43,379 you know, in the middle of the legacy of the story 116 00:07:43,462 --> 00:07:45,214 and change Santa from white to Black? 117 00:07:45,298 --> 00:07:47,466 I mean, you can't. 118 00:08:02,523 --> 00:08:04,775 - This is Rudy. - This is our baby. 119 00:08:04,859 --> 00:08:08,571 Look at how big he's grown. See those antlers? 120 00:08:10,323 --> 00:08:14,202 Santa has reindeer all over the world, 121 00:08:14,285 --> 00:08:17,705 in case he should have a problem with the Elite Eight 122 00:08:17,788 --> 00:08:21,083 on his special trips. 123 00:08:21,167 --> 00:08:23,127 You all pooped and tuckered. 124 00:08:23,211 --> 00:08:26,797 Oh, there you go. You gonna take a little nap? 125 00:08:26,881 --> 00:08:28,257 Santa likes to take a nap 126 00:08:28,341 --> 00:08:31,219 in the afternoon, too, sometimes, you know? 127 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:38,100 My role as Mrs. Claus started in 2006. 128 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:40,061 I had just retired. 129 00:08:40,144 --> 00:08:43,022 Yeah, I spent 40 years working in engineering, 130 00:08:43,105 --> 00:08:46,692 which was pretty much a male-dominated field. 131 00:08:46,776 --> 00:08:51,030 So, yeah, so when I make up for the character as Mrs. Claus... 132 00:08:51,113 --> 00:08:53,908 She ain't being disrespected, you know? 133 00:08:53,991 --> 00:08:56,994 It's like, I am not the warm-up act for Santa. 134 00:08:57,078 --> 00:08:59,455 I come in on his arm. I am his wife. 135 00:08:59,538 --> 00:09:01,958 I am not an elf doing all those things 136 00:09:02,041 --> 00:09:04,001 that I think the elves do. 137 00:09:07,588 --> 00:09:09,048 Let's see. 138 00:09:09,131 --> 00:09:12,134 Santa loves Mrs. Claus. Mrs. Claus loves Santa. 139 00:09:12,218 --> 00:09:13,719 There's no doubt about that. 140 00:09:13,803 --> 00:09:17,306 But as the world has changed, so has Mrs. Claus. 141 00:09:17,390 --> 00:09:19,267 We've come a long way, baby. 142 00:09:23,062 --> 00:09:27,608 In a few weeks, I'm gonna be up in Manchester, New Hampshire, 143 00:09:27,692 --> 00:09:29,402 at the Santa Camp. 144 00:09:29,485 --> 00:09:31,070 And I'm gonna be doing a program 145 00:09:31,153 --> 00:09:34,407 with a couple other Santas and Mrs. Clauses 146 00:09:34,490 --> 00:09:36,617 about issues with Mrs. Claus. 147 00:09:38,494 --> 00:09:41,497 I think everybody wants to be treated fairly and equally, 148 00:09:41,580 --> 00:09:45,126 and, you know, that's just the way it is. 149 00:09:45,209 --> 00:09:48,587 But how pushy are you gonna be about it, you know? 150 00:09:48,671 --> 00:09:52,008 And it's like, "I'm pushy." 151 00:10:13,529 --> 00:10:15,906 - Merry Christmas! - Hi. 152 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:18,200 - Yo, Santa! - Hey, guys. How are you? 153 00:10:18,284 --> 00:10:20,953 - Yeah! - Good to see you. 154 00:10:21,037 --> 00:10:24,665 - Say cookies! - Cookies! 155 00:10:24,749 --> 00:10:26,584 So today there's gonna be a lot of Santas 156 00:10:26,667 --> 00:10:28,544 running around the park. 157 00:10:28,627 --> 00:10:30,796 Once we're away from Christmas, 158 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,008 we meet pretty much every month as a group. 159 00:10:34,091 --> 00:10:35,217 Hey, Santa. 160 00:10:35,301 --> 00:10:36,844 Well, hello, there, young man. 161 00:10:36,927 --> 00:10:39,805 We like to dress up, have different outfits. 162 00:10:39,889 --> 00:10:41,974 This is our summer Santa style. 163 00:10:45,353 --> 00:10:47,563 That shit's going deep! 164 00:10:47,646 --> 00:10:49,190 Hi! 165 00:10:49,273 --> 00:10:51,233 Okay. 166 00:10:51,317 --> 00:10:53,944 I thought that was a smile coming. 167 00:10:56,197 --> 00:10:57,948 Hey, come on over. 168 00:10:58,032 --> 00:11:00,618 Are you gonna get a picture, or you just want to chat? 169 00:11:00,701 --> 00:11:02,411 - Both! - All right. 170 00:11:02,495 --> 00:11:04,246 Let's get a good background here. 171 00:11:04,330 --> 00:11:07,416 We'll get this banana background. 172 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:09,335 A real live Santa Claus. 173 00:11:09,418 --> 00:11:11,295 You have the new kicks. 174 00:11:11,379 --> 00:11:14,006 No! These were made by an elf. 175 00:11:16,133 --> 00:11:18,594 So Santa was, like, definitely my biggest idol. 176 00:11:18,677 --> 00:11:21,263 That's why I'm, like, kind of shocked right now. 177 00:11:21,347 --> 00:11:23,474 He was like, my hero, definitely. 178 00:11:23,557 --> 00:11:25,559 Have you always seen Santa as being white? 179 00:11:25,643 --> 00:11:27,937 Yes. I wish there was, like, a variety of Santas 180 00:11:28,020 --> 00:11:30,356 that are willing to come in different colors 181 00:11:30,439 --> 00:11:32,942 to let people know that they could come 182 00:11:33,025 --> 00:11:35,611 in any different shape and form, you know? 183 00:11:35,694 --> 00:11:39,073 But that's not how the world, like, is right now, so... 184 00:11:39,156 --> 00:11:41,784 - But it could change. - Yeah. 185 00:11:41,867 --> 00:11:44,912 - Yeah, things are changing. - Hopefully. 186 00:11:46,872 --> 00:11:48,958 You just got to find 'em. 187 00:11:49,041 --> 00:11:50,041 Yeah. 188 00:11:55,881 --> 00:11:57,675 Jolly. 189 00:11:57,758 --> 00:12:01,470 Santa Claus is just an idea. 190 00:12:01,554 --> 00:12:05,391 And the fact that a Black child 191 00:12:05,474 --> 00:12:10,146 wants to have a Black Santa, somebody who looks like them, 192 00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:11,814 what's the problem? 193 00:12:11,897 --> 00:12:14,400 I mean 194 00:12:14,483 --> 00:12:17,319 that's it. 195 00:12:17,403 --> 00:12:21,198 It's Santa. 196 00:12:21,282 --> 00:12:24,326 I mean... 197 00:12:24,410 --> 00:12:26,954 The look in the kids' eyes 198 00:12:27,037 --> 00:12:29,373 when they meet you, and... 199 00:12:29,748 --> 00:12:31,584 That's what it's about. 200 00:12:34,044 --> 00:12:37,840 Excuse me. 201 00:12:43,220 --> 00:12:44,638 Here in New Hampshire, 202 00:12:44,722 --> 00:12:48,976 we don't have huge minority populations, 203 00:12:49,059 --> 00:12:52,688 so we have been reaching out to people outside New England. 204 00:12:53,772 --> 00:12:55,816 "Black Santa Claus." 205 00:12:55,900 --> 00:12:58,986 And there's a Santa named Chris. 206 00:12:59,069 --> 00:13:00,446 He's Black. 207 00:13:00,529 --> 00:13:03,115 And he has a heck of a story to tell. 208 00:13:03,199 --> 00:13:06,619 A North Little Rock man's Facebook post is going viral 209 00:13:06,702 --> 00:13:08,996 after showing a letter he received in the mail. 210 00:13:09,079 --> 00:13:12,166 He claims that he was the target of a racist note... 211 00:13:12,249 --> 00:13:15,878 Attacking him for not having a white Santa. 212 00:13:17,129 --> 00:13:21,175 I have never had any problems out of anybody. 213 00:13:22,510 --> 00:13:26,430 All of a sudden, we got a problem with Black Santa. 214 00:13:28,474 --> 00:13:30,601 But this man 215 00:13:30,684 --> 00:13:32,520 he ain't coming down. 216 00:13:36,398 --> 00:13:41,403 We moved to North Little Rock specifically for our daughter. 217 00:13:41,487 --> 00:13:44,949 We wanted to offer her a great education 218 00:13:45,032 --> 00:13:47,243 from the very beginning. 219 00:13:48,702 --> 00:13:50,704 I'm drawing Santa. 220 00:13:50,788 --> 00:13:55,209 No, I'm gonna do a little bit of brown. 221 00:13:55,292 --> 00:13:57,461 He's kind of chocolaty. 222 00:13:58,837 --> 00:14:00,631 But, you know, we're Black people 223 00:14:00,714 --> 00:14:05,386 in a predominantly white neighborhood. 224 00:14:05,469 --> 00:14:09,390 - That is the Karen right there. - Yes. 225 00:14:09,473 --> 00:14:12,560 - She making blocks. - Yeah, she is. 226 00:14:12,643 --> 00:14:14,645 - And she's calling. - Calling who? 227 00:14:14,728 --> 00:14:18,315 - The police, I guess. - Psycho. 228 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:19,775 When you're walking by yourself, 229 00:14:19,858 --> 00:14:21,986 that's why I definitely feel the need 230 00:14:22,069 --> 00:14:24,572 that you need to be in bright clothing. 231 00:14:24,655 --> 00:14:26,490 Like, I prefer that your cell phone case 232 00:14:26,574 --> 00:14:30,035 be a bright, obnoxious color so someone can obviously tell 233 00:14:30,119 --> 00:14:32,705 that it is a cell phone and not a gun. 234 00:14:34,832 --> 00:14:37,626 Representation is a big thing for our family. 235 00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:42,464 And I have a ten-foot-tall inflatable Black Santa. 236 00:14:42,548 --> 00:14:44,174 One day I checked the mail, 237 00:14:44,258 --> 00:14:47,011 and there was a letter in there. 238 00:14:47,094 --> 00:14:48,804 I opened it. I got mad. 239 00:14:48,887 --> 00:14:52,266 I was definitely angry. In fact, I was livid. 240 00:14:52,349 --> 00:14:55,811 This is the type of people that I live around. 241 00:14:55,894 --> 00:14:57,187 This is the type of people 242 00:14:57,271 --> 00:14:59,273 that I have to raise my daughter around. 243 00:14:59,356 --> 00:15:03,736 These are the type of people that I have to worry about. 244 00:15:09,074 --> 00:15:12,161 This is what I got. 245 00:15:12,244 --> 00:15:15,331 - Can I ask you to read it? - I really don't want to. 246 00:15:15,414 --> 00:15:17,791 Like, it just... 247 00:15:17,875 --> 00:15:19,585 Yeah. 248 00:15:19,668 --> 00:15:22,254 Because one of the things... I start stuttering, 249 00:15:22,338 --> 00:15:24,256 and that makes me even more frustrated. 250 00:15:24,340 --> 00:15:28,927 And so that's why I generally don't read it out loud. 251 00:15:30,095 --> 00:15:31,430 So, yeah. 252 00:15:38,729 --> 00:15:43,192 It was 100% an attack on who I am as a person. 253 00:15:47,404 --> 00:15:48,864 We, of course, thought, 254 00:15:48,947 --> 00:15:51,992 "Did we pick the right neighborhood to live in? 255 00:15:52,076 --> 00:15:55,704 And should we be looking to move?" 256 00:15:55,788 --> 00:15:57,998 That's what we live next door to. 257 00:16:00,459 --> 00:16:02,628 A stupid Confederate flag. 258 00:16:05,589 --> 00:16:09,301 It's the clear and present danger for us. 259 00:16:09,385 --> 00:16:11,261 I needed to channel the anger 260 00:16:11,345 --> 00:16:14,556 into something that wasn't negative. 261 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,226 So I went and rented a Santa costume 262 00:16:17,309 --> 00:16:21,230 and played Santa Claus for my daughter. 263 00:16:21,313 --> 00:16:24,775 Down and across. 264 00:16:24,858 --> 00:16:26,777 I want to be able to be Black Santa 265 00:16:26,860 --> 00:16:28,237 for other families. 266 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,823 So I'm gonna be going up to New Hampshire 267 00:16:30,906 --> 00:16:32,282 to a Santa camp 268 00:16:32,366 --> 00:16:35,744 to learn all the ins and outs of being Santa. 269 00:16:35,828 --> 00:16:38,664 This is what I created. 270 00:16:46,171 --> 00:16:47,798 How long have you been a Santa? 271 00:16:47,881 --> 00:16:50,467 I've been a Santa since I was 16 years old. 272 00:16:50,551 --> 00:16:53,762 I'm 69 years old in human years now. 273 00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:55,723 So 53 years. 274 00:16:55,806 --> 00:16:58,559 I have been to Santa Camp three years in a row. 275 00:16:58,642 --> 00:17:02,563 It helps me connect with other like-minded people. 276 00:17:02,646 --> 00:17:05,232 You learn techniques. 277 00:17:05,315 --> 00:17:07,860 And you learn the business 278 00:17:07,943 --> 00:17:11,113 'cause the business of Santa Claus is very big. 279 00:17:11,196 --> 00:17:13,449 I could easily walk away 280 00:17:13,532 --> 00:17:16,201 with $2,000 a night. 281 00:17:16,285 --> 00:17:18,704 There's a particular Santa that comes from Rhode Island. 282 00:17:18,787 --> 00:17:22,040 He's known as Santa to the Stars. 283 00:17:22,124 --> 00:17:23,917 I mean, he has a house in Italy. 284 00:17:24,001 --> 00:17:25,794 I mean, he has a house in California, 285 00:17:25,878 --> 00:17:27,629 and he drives brand-new cars. 286 00:17:27,713 --> 00:17:29,173 I think there's approximately 287 00:17:29,256 --> 00:17:32,134 5,000 to 6,000 professional Santas. 288 00:17:32,217 --> 00:17:36,180 And you know the whole reason of having professional Santas 289 00:17:36,263 --> 00:17:38,307 is to improve, like a guild. 290 00:17:38,390 --> 00:17:41,477 You meet people and learn from their experiences. 291 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,103 It's like a big family. 292 00:17:43,187 --> 00:17:45,647 Santa Society is like a brotherhood. 293 00:17:45,731 --> 00:17:49,318 We quite often call ourselves "The Brothers in Red." 294 00:18:05,167 --> 00:18:07,836 Into your hands, oh, God, 295 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,882 we commend Your servant Dick Marshall. 296 00:18:11,965 --> 00:18:13,717 It doesn't matter. 297 00:18:13,801 --> 00:18:17,096 God created no junk. 298 00:18:20,182 --> 00:18:23,060 All that he did, Dick offered love 299 00:18:23,143 --> 00:18:25,229 and compassion and faith 300 00:18:25,312 --> 00:18:29,691 shared through joy and a bit of hope and magic. 301 00:18:29,775 --> 00:18:32,528 On behalf of Dick Marshall's family, 302 00:18:32,611 --> 00:18:34,738 you are welcomed here. 303 00:18:34,822 --> 00:18:38,659 All are welcomed here 304 00:18:38,742 --> 00:18:41,161 because as Dick so amply enjoyed saying... 305 00:18:41,245 --> 00:18:42,871 Perfect. Thanks. 306 00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:46,041 That "God don't make no junk." 307 00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:50,838 Look at this one with the wig flying back. 308 00:18:50,921 --> 00:18:53,549 Dick looks like he's terrified, you know. 309 00:18:53,632 --> 00:18:55,551 In that one. Both: Yep. 310 00:18:57,511 --> 00:19:00,639 - It was just so sudden. - It was heartbreaking. 311 00:19:00,722 --> 00:19:04,309 Yeah. He was very supportive of the move now 312 00:19:04,393 --> 00:19:09,314 to try to expand the diversity of the Santa community 313 00:19:09,398 --> 00:19:12,609 and trying to brainstorm, 314 00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:15,195 like, how do we reach out, how do we find those people? 315 00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:17,656 Well, you can't put an ad in the paper, say, 316 00:19:17,739 --> 00:19:21,577 "Any dwarfs out there that want to be Santa Claus, 317 00:19:21,660 --> 00:19:23,745 "particularly if you're Jewish 318 00:19:23,829 --> 00:19:26,999 and of a different color." 319 00:19:27,082 --> 00:19:29,835 There's no way for us to ask for that 320 00:19:29,918 --> 00:19:33,130 that I'm aware of without offending. 321 00:19:33,213 --> 00:19:36,258 There is that 322 00:19:36,341 --> 00:19:39,970 conservatism sometimes in the Santa community 323 00:19:40,053 --> 00:19:42,264 that's very closed. 324 00:19:42,347 --> 00:19:45,934 But I think that was the nice thing with Dick, 325 00:19:46,018 --> 00:19:51,023 is that it didn't matter what you look like. 326 00:19:52,316 --> 00:19:54,860 Being Santa is in the heart. 327 00:20:14,296 --> 00:20:15,881 All right. Whoa! 328 00:20:18,383 --> 00:20:19,676 Stay. 329 00:20:24,097 --> 00:20:28,143 How's this one? Oh, this one's good. 330 00:20:28,226 --> 00:20:31,605 - There he is. - Ho, ho, ho! 331 00:20:31,688 --> 00:20:34,399 - Hi. - It's nice to meet you. 332 00:20:34,483 --> 00:20:35,901 Now, I have a question. 333 00:20:35,984 --> 00:20:39,738 Is there anything that we need to do or 334 00:20:39,821 --> 00:20:43,408 I mean, have you ever had a nonspeaking person there 335 00:20:43,492 --> 00:20:45,494 at Santa Camp before or anything? 336 00:20:45,577 --> 00:20:48,914 - This will be the first. - Oh, okay. 337 00:20:48,997 --> 00:20:50,707 'Cause it's a little bit... 338 00:20:50,791 --> 00:20:54,962 You know, going into a new situation with lots of people 339 00:20:55,045 --> 00:20:56,588 can be a little daunting. 340 00:20:56,672 --> 00:21:00,968 Because Fin Barre's a Santa with spin a bifida, 341 00:21:01,051 --> 00:21:04,513 and I don't know if that's a situation... 342 00:21:04,596 --> 00:21:06,640 Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. 343 00:21:06,723 --> 00:21:09,202 Doesn't have any problem with the "ho, ho, ho" part, however. 344 00:21:09,226 --> 00:21:12,020 Yeah. That's right. 345 00:21:13,397 --> 00:21:16,066 In here is 346 00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:18,276 the lair of Santa Fin. 347 00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:19,611 And there he is. 348 00:21:21,446 --> 00:21:24,199 I love everything about Santa. 349 00:21:24,282 --> 00:21:26,702 Really? I couldn't tell. 350 00:21:26,785 --> 00:21:30,664 What's that device that you're holding? 351 00:21:30,747 --> 00:21:32,457 My iPad. 352 00:21:32,541 --> 00:21:35,252 So Fin is what's called a multimodal communicator, 353 00:21:35,335 --> 00:21:39,214 meaning he uses his hands, his body, his iPad, 354 00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:42,718 and his voice to communicate. 355 00:21:42,801 --> 00:21:45,512 Can it ever be hard to communicate? 356 00:21:47,347 --> 00:21:48,598 Yes. 357 00:21:48,682 --> 00:21:53,061 Except when he has the big red suit on. 358 00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:56,148 The magic just... Clicks. 359 00:21:57,899 --> 00:22:00,944 What's the best thing about being Santa? 360 00:22:06,783 --> 00:22:08,785 I fly around in a sleigh. 361 00:22:08,869 --> 00:22:12,080 - Ho, ho, ho, ho. - Your sleigh. 362 00:22:12,164 --> 00:22:16,418 Anytime anyone sees anything that says "ho, ho, ho" on it, 363 00:22:16,501 --> 00:22:18,920 it ends up in this room somehow. 364 00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:22,591 That's a gift. That's a gift. That's a gift. That's a gift. 365 00:22:22,674 --> 00:22:25,093 And he's got that whole snow-globe thing 366 00:22:25,177 --> 00:22:27,429 going on here, too. 367 00:22:28,805 --> 00:22:32,309 So we need to do all sorts of updates 368 00:22:32,392 --> 00:22:33,810 on the Santa Fin website. 369 00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:36,730 Okay. And maybe we might have some giveaway. 370 00:22:36,813 --> 00:22:38,774 I'm not quite sure what that would be. 371 00:22:38,857 --> 00:22:40,984 - T-shirts. - T-shirts. 372 00:22:41,068 --> 00:22:42,778 Candy. 373 00:22:42,861 --> 00:22:45,947 I want my elves to give out stuffed bears. 374 00:22:46,031 --> 00:22:48,950 - You want to do that? - Cool. 375 00:22:49,034 --> 00:22:53,163 So, on the homepage, it says, "It all started with a dream, 376 00:22:53,246 --> 00:22:56,416 "a dream to follow his passion and be a real Santa, 377 00:22:56,500 --> 00:23:00,212 regardless of any obstacle that may have been in his way." 378 00:23:02,089 --> 00:23:04,674 What are some of those obstacles? 379 00:23:04,758 --> 00:23:07,469 Well, what's happened a lot in the past 380 00:23:07,552 --> 00:23:09,471 when we've reached out to places, 381 00:23:09,554 --> 00:23:11,973 they're like, "Yeah, a special... What? 382 00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:13,391 "No. What? 383 00:23:13,475 --> 00:23:16,770 No, we couldn't have a special-needs Santa." 384 00:23:16,853 --> 00:23:20,774 And, I mean, I've had people that have said to me, you know, 385 00:23:20,857 --> 00:23:22,651 "Can I catch what he has?" It's like... 386 00:23:22,734 --> 00:23:24,236 - What? - "I don't know, 387 00:23:24,319 --> 00:23:26,655 but you caught an awful lot of stupid, like"... 388 00:23:26,738 --> 00:23:27,948 Yeah, you caught stupid. 389 00:23:28,031 --> 00:23:30,659 Fin, how did that make you feel? 390 00:23:30,742 --> 00:23:32,744 - Sad. - Sad? Yeah. 391 00:23:32,828 --> 00:23:36,039 - Sad. - Yeah, it's super painful. 392 00:23:37,290 --> 00:23:39,376 I don't know, man. 393 00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:43,839 He's typing something. 394 00:23:43,922 --> 00:23:45,423 Go ahead, honey. 395 00:23:47,008 --> 00:23:51,012 I want to be a Santa in a December parade. 396 00:23:51,096 --> 00:23:52,264 Okay. 397 00:23:52,347 --> 00:23:54,141 What is it about being in a parade 398 00:23:54,224 --> 00:23:56,518 that's, like, so important to you? 399 00:23:56,601 --> 00:24:01,314 I want to show everyone that I am the real Santa. 400 00:24:02,357 --> 00:24:06,027 - It's his dream, so... - Yes. 401 00:24:11,158 --> 00:24:13,618 All right, so... 402 00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:15,495 Hi there, Kay. This is Suki. 403 00:24:15,579 --> 00:24:20,542 I had texted you about a month or so ago about the parade. 404 00:24:20,625 --> 00:24:22,294 - Hello. - I'm calling. 405 00:24:22,377 --> 00:24:26,381 I know it's August, but I've got a kind of wild idea. 406 00:24:26,464 --> 00:24:30,719 - Well, maybe. - I don't know who... 407 00:24:30,802 --> 00:24:33,930 Oh, no, I lost him. 408 00:24:34,014 --> 00:24:35,015 Unreal. 409 00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:45,483 So we have been reaching out to Santas 410 00:24:45,567 --> 00:24:47,319 of different backgrounds... 411 00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:51,364 Like this Santa named Levi. 412 00:24:51,448 --> 00:24:52,866 He's trans. 413 00:24:52,949 --> 00:24:54,409 Ho, ho, ho. 414 00:24:54,492 --> 00:24:57,579 Santa Levi, aka Trans Santa here. 415 00:24:57,662 --> 00:25:00,749 Actually, he looks pretty good as a Santa. 416 00:25:05,670 --> 00:25:08,340 That's what we're looking for. 417 00:25:16,973 --> 00:25:21,811 We literally went to Target and bought a Santa onesie. 418 00:25:23,396 --> 00:25:25,982 Look how cute we are. 419 00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:27,901 Look at Levi with the babies. 420 00:25:27,984 --> 00:25:30,445 Most of the kids cried. 421 00:25:30,528 --> 00:25:32,906 I think the night before and that morning, 422 00:25:32,989 --> 00:25:35,659 I, like, practiced ho-ho-ho-ing 423 00:25:35,742 --> 00:25:37,702 'cause that was, like, really 424 00:25:37,786 --> 00:25:40,288 I was like, oh, wait. I have to like, 425 00:25:40,372 --> 00:25:42,499 talk to people in a Santa-y, 426 00:25:42,582 --> 00:25:46,461 like, boisterous like, "ho, ho, ho," right? 427 00:25:46,544 --> 00:25:48,064 'Cause, you know, it takes a while for your voice 428 00:25:48,088 --> 00:25:49,965 to change when you're taking testosterone. 429 00:25:50,048 --> 00:25:52,592 But in a Santa suit, everybody likes you, 430 00:25:52,676 --> 00:25:54,511 so it's fine. 431 00:25:58,431 --> 00:26:00,016 - We met online. - Yeah. 432 00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:02,644 I was fresh out of a relationship. 433 00:26:02,727 --> 00:26:04,854 He was newish to Chicago. 434 00:26:04,938 --> 00:26:06,731 Can I talk about you for a second? 435 00:26:06,815 --> 00:26:08,149 - Yeah. - When we met, 436 00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:10,902 Levi knew that he was a boy 437 00:26:10,986 --> 00:26:13,613 but had no desire to ever transition. 438 00:26:13,697 --> 00:26:16,491 I just didn't want to be an old white guy 439 00:26:16,574 --> 00:26:21,246 having privilege and not recognizing privilege and 440 00:26:21,329 --> 00:26:23,832 I don't want to be that. 441 00:26:23,915 --> 00:26:25,208 I like being other. 442 00:26:25,292 --> 00:26:27,502 And part of that is being Trans Santa 443 00:26:27,585 --> 00:26:31,339 and being, like, a super queer fat Mrs. Claus... 444 00:26:31,423 --> 00:26:33,967 And killing it. 445 00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:35,218 Check that out. 446 00:26:35,302 --> 00:26:36,678 - Oh, boo. - Oh! 447 00:26:36,761 --> 00:26:38,680 - Still have zero, by the way. - Oh, I'm losing. 448 00:26:38,763 --> 00:26:41,349 When Heidi found out there was a Santa Camp, 449 00:26:41,433 --> 00:26:44,060 she immediately was like, "Yeah, we're going." 450 00:26:44,144 --> 00:26:45,437 And I was like, "Why?" 451 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,605 What is not appealing about Santa Camp? 452 00:26:47,689 --> 00:26:50,150 I mean, come on! That sounds amazing. 453 00:26:50,233 --> 00:26:51,860 'Cause to me, I think like, 454 00:26:51,943 --> 00:26:56,239 Santa in, like, big armchairs that are cozy, right? 455 00:26:56,323 --> 00:26:59,534 So that's what I visualized. 456 00:26:59,617 --> 00:27:01,244 Look at all that wood paneling. 457 00:27:01,328 --> 00:27:04,205 Yeah. And a lot of red. 458 00:27:04,289 --> 00:27:06,374 - Oh. - Oh. 459 00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:08,418 They're all white. 460 00:27:08,501 --> 00:27:10,295 Are they all white? 461 00:27:10,378 --> 00:27:11,921 I mean 462 00:27:12,005 --> 00:27:15,342 at a first visual capture, they appear to be all white. 463 00:27:15,425 --> 00:27:16,468 It's true. 464 00:27:18,386 --> 00:27:20,930 Are you still as excited to go as you were? 465 00:27:21,014 --> 00:27:24,559 You okay? 466 00:27:24,642 --> 00:27:26,394 Like, I genuinely want to go 467 00:27:26,478 --> 00:27:29,856 and learn how to be a better Santa. 468 00:27:29,939 --> 00:27:33,818 Hope I'm accepted by the other Santas. 469 00:27:33,902 --> 00:27:35,612 Fuck 'em if you're not, babe. 470 00:27:35,695 --> 00:27:38,073 - It's true, but... - Like, come on. 471 00:27:40,367 --> 00:27:43,244 People need to see themselves in role models. 472 00:27:43,328 --> 00:27:45,580 For sure. 473 00:27:45,663 --> 00:27:48,375 Like, if I saw a trans Santa when I was a kid 474 00:27:48,458 --> 00:27:49,918 and I was like 475 00:27:50,001 --> 00:27:53,463 you know, when I was a kid, I didn't really know, 476 00:27:53,546 --> 00:27:55,340 like, what trans was. 477 00:27:57,550 --> 00:28:01,388 It would be... comforting. I don't know. 478 00:28:01,471 --> 00:28:04,808 - Empowering. - Definitely empowering. 479 00:28:07,268 --> 00:28:09,521 Yeah. 480 00:28:09,604 --> 00:28:12,273 Now I'm starting to get, like, choked up a little bit. 481 00:28:12,357 --> 00:28:14,359 - I can tell. - I don't know. 482 00:28:18,071 --> 00:28:20,532 What are you thinking? 483 00:28:26,788 --> 00:28:30,375 Sorry. 484 00:28:30,458 --> 00:28:32,627 It would have made a difference for you. 485 00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:35,505 Yeah. 486 00:28:35,588 --> 00:28:37,549 Yeah. 487 00:28:50,270 --> 00:28:52,730 The preparations have begun. 488 00:28:52,814 --> 00:28:54,023 Here we go. 489 00:28:54,107 --> 00:28:56,860 Starting with the fat suit. 490 00:28:56,943 --> 00:28:59,821 So how are you feeling? 491 00:28:59,904 --> 00:29:02,907 I am excited for Santa Camp. 492 00:29:02,991 --> 00:29:05,994 Oops. Now it's just totally coming off. 493 00:29:06,077 --> 00:29:08,746 This needs to get fixed as well. 494 00:29:08,830 --> 00:29:11,791 You gonna wear this at Santa Camp? 495 00:29:11,875 --> 00:29:13,668 Cool. It's gonna be perfect. 496 00:29:13,751 --> 00:29:15,378 Fin is asking every day, 497 00:29:15,462 --> 00:29:17,547 "Is it time to go to camp? Is it time to go to camp?" 498 00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:20,592 I think it's gonna be hot at camp, so 499 00:29:20,675 --> 00:29:22,844 no velvet. 500 00:29:22,927 --> 00:29:25,054 - I get anxious. - I worry, for sure. 501 00:29:25,138 --> 00:29:26,514 I don't want him to get hurt. 502 00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:28,433 I particularly don't want anybody to call him, 503 00:29:28,516 --> 00:29:29,851 like, the R word. 504 00:29:29,934 --> 00:29:32,020 There could be some people that would think, 505 00:29:32,103 --> 00:29:34,022 "Oh, you know, 506 00:29:34,105 --> 00:29:38,401 "shouldn't have someone like that being Santa," you know. 507 00:29:38,485 --> 00:29:40,171 I mean, there could be somebody in a group of 100 people 508 00:29:40,195 --> 00:29:41,738 that would feel that way. 509 00:29:41,821 --> 00:29:44,991 I mean, the probability is fairly high, I would say 510 00:29:45,074 --> 00:29:46,743 particularly old white men. 511 00:29:46,826 --> 00:29:48,870 You gonna bring your beard, too? 512 00:29:48,953 --> 00:29:50,663 Yeah. 513 00:29:51,789 --> 00:29:54,125 It needs a good brush. 514 00:29:54,209 --> 00:29:57,962 It's amazing, really, the things that he can do 515 00:29:58,046 --> 00:30:00,882 that they told me he would never do. 516 00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:04,886 The doctor said he'd never walk and talk, 517 00:30:04,969 --> 00:30:07,013 that he'd be a quadriplegic. 518 00:30:07,096 --> 00:30:09,057 Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. 519 00:30:09,140 --> 00:30:12,769 When you have spin a bifida, usually it's like 520 00:30:12,852 --> 00:30:15,730 a lot of moms are told, "Your son's gonna... 521 00:30:15,813 --> 00:30:17,482 "Or your daughter's gonna be a vegetable. 522 00:30:17,565 --> 00:30:19,734 Find a good institution and visit them on the weekend," 523 00:30:19,817 --> 00:30:21,194 which is what they told me. 524 00:30:21,277 --> 00:30:23,446 And I went, "This is not your decision. 525 00:30:23,530 --> 00:30:25,698 And I am done listening to this." 526 00:30:25,782 --> 00:30:27,408 And I never looked back, 527 00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:31,412 and I never, ever stopped. 528 00:30:31,496 --> 00:30:34,332 What about that cool "ho, ho, ho" vest? 529 00:30:34,415 --> 00:30:36,251 Mom made this for you. 530 00:30:38,628 --> 00:30:39,921 It's a long journey. 531 00:30:40,004 --> 00:30:43,591 I mean, 30 years is a long time. 532 00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:45,593 It's a big chunk of my life 533 00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:48,930 that I've devoted to this young man. 534 00:30:49,013 --> 00:30:52,058 I'm 65. I'm tired. 535 00:30:52,141 --> 00:30:55,061 That will be good for Santa Camp. 536 00:30:55,144 --> 00:30:57,272 We are going to camp 537 00:30:57,355 --> 00:31:02,610 to have Fin have the best experience that he can 538 00:31:02,694 --> 00:31:04,612 because this is his passion. 539 00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:08,408 And oddly enough, it's become mine as well. 540 00:31:57,957 --> 00:32:00,335 All right, let's start. 541 00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:01,836 Let's get to work. 542 00:32:06,466 --> 00:32:08,635 - All right. - I'm taking this one. 543 00:32:08,718 --> 00:32:11,179 A couple mosquitoes flying around here. 544 00:32:14,223 --> 00:32:15,683 Good to see you, Santa. 545 00:32:15,767 --> 00:32:19,520 Oh, and it's good to see you, Santa, as well. 546 00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:21,898 Ho! All: Ho! 547 00:32:21,981 --> 00:32:25,276 Ho, ho, ho! All: Ho, ho, ho! 548 00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:31,240 Santa Camp is not something 549 00:32:31,324 --> 00:32:34,494 that I had grown up envisioning myself doing, 550 00:32:34,577 --> 00:32:38,039 so this is definitely a new one on me. 551 00:32:38,122 --> 00:32:41,501 I mean, Black Santa is not widely celebrated. 552 00:32:41,584 --> 00:32:44,170 There's not very many of us, so 553 00:32:44,253 --> 00:32:47,090 oh, it's definitely gonna be a strange experience. 554 00:32:47,173 --> 00:32:48,800 - This must be Santa. - It is Santa. 555 00:32:48,883 --> 00:32:51,052 - Has to be a Santa. - We're glad you're here. 556 00:32:51,135 --> 00:32:52,804 - I'm happy to be here. - Yeah. 557 00:32:52,887 --> 00:32:57,725 - You're close with your shoes. - Orange is close to red. 558 00:32:57,809 --> 00:33:00,770 I actually do not own a lot of red. 559 00:33:00,853 --> 00:33:03,147 Most of the things that I own are green. 560 00:33:12,448 --> 00:33:16,285 All right, we're gonna come right up to the sign. 561 00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:18,287 Half circle around. 562 00:33:18,371 --> 00:33:21,791 Elves to the front. 563 00:33:21,874 --> 00:33:24,877 Are you getting excited? 564 00:33:24,961 --> 00:33:26,212 Santa's here. 565 00:33:26,295 --> 00:33:29,841 You with the white beard. 566 00:33:29,924 --> 00:33:31,259 Smile. 567 00:33:47,024 --> 00:33:49,444 I say "Santa," you say "Claus." 568 00:33:49,527 --> 00:33:50,653 Santa! All: Claus! 569 00:33:50,737 --> 00:33:52,113 Santa! All: Claus! 570 00:33:52,196 --> 00:33:54,240 I say "Missus," you say "Claus." 571 00:33:54,323 --> 00:33:55,533 Missus! All: Claus! 572 00:33:55,616 --> 00:33:56,909 Missus! All: Claus! 573 00:33:56,993 --> 00:33:59,287 I say "Rudolph," you say "reindeer." 574 00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:00,705 Rudolph! All: Reindeer! 575 00:34:05,626 --> 00:34:08,796 I many times have, in the past few weeks, 576 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,384 thought that this is really nuts, really crazy. 577 00:34:17,013 --> 00:34:18,723 Oh! 578 00:34:18,806 --> 00:34:20,600 Oops. 579 00:34:20,683 --> 00:34:24,145 Santa Camps generally attract 580 00:34:24,228 --> 00:34:27,648 gentlemen of a certain age. 581 00:34:27,732 --> 00:34:31,652 Older gentlemen who have cultivated fat tummies... 582 00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:35,823 And very serious about their beards. 583 00:34:35,907 --> 00:34:40,328 Usually God-fearing kind of, like, Vietnam-vet guys 584 00:34:40,411 --> 00:34:44,749 and Christian guys and 585 00:34:44,832 --> 00:34:46,167 guys, you know? 586 00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:47,919 Heads up. 587 00:34:48,002 --> 00:34:51,380 We're going into Santa world, and 588 00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:53,966 I have no idea how it's gonna go, 589 00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:57,512 because we are very different... 590 00:34:57,595 --> 00:35:00,056 Really different. 591 00:35:01,182 --> 00:35:02,934 Are you nervous, Fin? 592 00:35:05,061 --> 00:35:08,815 Got to do it for The Fin because it's his dream. 593 00:35:14,028 --> 00:35:15,738 Oh, damn it. 594 00:35:17,198 --> 00:35:19,200 I know you're excited. 595 00:35:19,283 --> 00:35:21,828 Please try to calm down, okay? 596 00:35:26,207 --> 00:35:28,543 Hi. 597 00:35:28,626 --> 00:35:31,712 Hi, everybody. I am Santa Fin. 598 00:35:31,796 --> 00:35:32,964 Fin, your name tag. 599 00:35:33,047 --> 00:35:34,340 We'll worry about Wi-Fi later. 600 00:35:34,423 --> 00:35:35,883 Oh, yes. Yeah. 601 00:35:35,967 --> 00:35:37,694 - Wi-Fi, where's the Wi-Fi? - Yeah, right, right. 602 00:35:37,718 --> 00:35:38,928 Okay, that's for Fin. 603 00:35:39,011 --> 00:35:41,514 Okay, there you go, Santa Fin. 604 00:35:41,597 --> 00:35:43,558 Yeah. 605 00:35:43,641 --> 00:35:46,477 - This is my son Fin. - I'm his momager. 606 00:35:46,561 --> 00:35:47,854 Hi, Fin. Pleasure to meet you. 607 00:35:47,937 --> 00:35:49,897 I'm Dave. I'm one of the instructors. 608 00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:52,775 I've been Santa for six years. 609 00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:54,277 Awesome. Awesome. 610 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,989 - There you go, like that. - Look right at me. 611 00:35:58,072 --> 00:35:59,824 Now... 612 00:35:59,907 --> 00:36:01,325 There you go. 613 00:36:01,409 --> 00:36:03,619 All right. Are you ready to go, Fin? 614 00:36:03,703 --> 00:36:04,912 Your turn, dude. 615 00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:06,664 All right, and look right at the child 616 00:36:06,747 --> 00:36:10,376 like the child is telling you what's on their list. 617 00:36:10,459 --> 00:36:12,295 I felt very nervous. 618 00:36:12,378 --> 00:36:14,505 But he usually wins everybody over 619 00:36:14,589 --> 00:36:17,884 regardless of all of the obstacles. 620 00:36:17,967 --> 00:36:20,052 - All right, you're all set. - All right. 621 00:36:20,136 --> 00:36:21,262 And who's next? 622 00:36:24,974 --> 00:36:27,351 Let me push the button here, see if it goes on. 623 00:36:40,114 --> 00:36:43,492 Smile. 624 00:36:43,576 --> 00:36:46,329 Snow, let it snow, let it snow. 625 00:36:46,412 --> 00:36:48,080 That's a good shot. 626 00:36:48,164 --> 00:36:50,249 They won't believe that in Rhode Island. 627 00:36:52,251 --> 00:36:55,004 So what was Christmas like down in Arkansas? 628 00:36:55,087 --> 00:36:56,714 Well, I actually grew up in Texas. 629 00:36:56,797 --> 00:36:58,841 - Oh, you did? Okay. - Yeah. 630 00:36:58,925 --> 00:37:00,301 My mom's a lesbian. 631 00:37:00,384 --> 00:37:05,306 So Santa was a Black lesbian woman for me. 632 00:37:05,389 --> 00:37:06,599 Okay. 633 00:37:06,682 --> 00:37:08,142 I think 634 00:37:08,225 --> 00:37:10,978 sometimes you just worry that you're going to say 635 00:37:11,062 --> 00:37:13,356 the wrong thing and offend somebody. 636 00:37:13,439 --> 00:37:14,941 You know, you're just not sure 637 00:37:15,024 --> 00:37:18,110 how to deal with those situations, 638 00:37:18,194 --> 00:37:22,073 especially today, in today's politically correct world 639 00:37:22,156 --> 00:37:24,075 and cancel culture and everything. 640 00:37:24,158 --> 00:37:27,286 You're just so afraid what to say. 641 00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:29,580 - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. I'm Suki. 642 00:37:29,664 --> 00:37:32,667 - Hi. Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. 643 00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:36,379 We've tried to really work on just making ourselves 644 00:37:36,462 --> 00:37:38,506 more familiar with what's going on. 645 00:37:38,589 --> 00:37:41,509 And, I mean, you know, we were talking today 646 00:37:41,592 --> 00:37:42,885 on another topic, 647 00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:45,680 but just the whole pronouns issue, 648 00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:47,723 that for us old guys, 649 00:37:47,807 --> 00:37:52,061 it's like, "My pronoun?" You know? 650 00:37:52,144 --> 00:37:54,689 Things have really changed recently 651 00:37:54,772 --> 00:37:58,317 in acknowledging the gender issues. 652 00:38:00,653 --> 00:38:03,489 - "Gender issues"? - And I was like... 653 00:38:04,907 --> 00:38:07,284 - Yep. - They're trying. 654 00:38:07,368 --> 00:38:09,453 But there's some other verbiage we could use 655 00:38:09,537 --> 00:38:11,122 other than, like, "issues." 656 00:38:20,923 --> 00:38:22,717 Grab a seat. 657 00:38:24,635 --> 00:38:25,678 All right. 658 00:38:25,761 --> 00:38:28,764 So we have a lot of new Santas. 659 00:38:30,850 --> 00:38:32,560 Chris, who is a Black Santa, 660 00:38:32,643 --> 00:38:35,396 he's from Little Rock, Arkansas, 661 00:38:35,479 --> 00:38:38,315 and then Levi 662 00:38:38,399 --> 00:38:40,443 is transgender, male. 663 00:38:40,526 --> 00:38:43,154 So they're getting into this 664 00:38:43,237 --> 00:38:46,615 in a very different way than most of us did. 665 00:38:46,699 --> 00:38:50,745 You know, there are things we might have to think about. 666 00:38:50,828 --> 00:38:52,204 We've got to get used to it, 667 00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:55,249 because as the last census bureau said, 668 00:38:55,332 --> 00:38:57,209 we are a minority now. 669 00:38:57,293 --> 00:38:59,879 So the biggest hurdle 670 00:38:59,962 --> 00:39:02,757 that's embedded in everybody's mind 671 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,802 is that Santa is a elderly, 672 00:39:06,886 --> 00:39:08,637 older white male, 673 00:39:08,721 --> 00:39:10,181 and it's the toughest thing. 674 00:39:10,264 --> 00:39:12,349 When somebody sees a Black Santa, they're like, 675 00:39:12,433 --> 00:39:16,270 "Mm, oh, jeez, that's not what we were raised with." 676 00:39:16,353 --> 00:39:17,688 To me, it wouldn't be a shock, 677 00:39:17,772 --> 00:39:19,190 but it would be different 678 00:39:19,273 --> 00:39:23,736 because it'll be the first time I've seen one. 679 00:39:23,819 --> 00:39:25,905 Yeah, okay, let's move along, 680 00:39:25,988 --> 00:39:28,074 'cause we still got a lot to do. 681 00:39:33,579 --> 00:39:34,955 I hope it works. 682 00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,500 Yeah. 683 00:39:49,136 --> 00:39:53,641 As a school for Santas and Mrs. Clauses and helpers, 684 00:39:53,724 --> 00:39:55,726 we try to cover 685 00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:57,645 the whole gamut of being Santa. 686 00:39:57,728 --> 00:40:00,856 All: Dasher, Dancer, 687 00:40:00,940 --> 00:40:03,442 Prancer, Vixen... 688 00:40:03,526 --> 00:40:06,987 You have to know the basics of the Santa legend. 689 00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:08,739 All: Rudolph. 690 00:40:08,823 --> 00:40:11,158 Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid... 691 00:40:11,242 --> 00:40:12,993 But you develop your own Santa. 692 00:40:13,077 --> 00:40:17,331 All: Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Donner. 693 00:40:17,414 --> 00:40:20,376 We have people who have 694 00:40:20,459 --> 00:40:23,129 20, 30 years of experience. 695 00:40:23,212 --> 00:40:26,632 Always the first question is... 696 00:40:26,715 --> 00:40:28,843 "You're not the real Santa. 697 00:40:28,926 --> 00:40:31,053 I know you're not the real Santa." 698 00:40:31,137 --> 00:40:34,098 What's your answer to it? What's your answer to it? 699 00:40:34,181 --> 00:40:35,933 Anybody? 700 00:40:36,016 --> 00:40:38,727 - Yes. I am real. - Excellent. 701 00:40:38,811 --> 00:40:41,522 It's exactly what I say... "Of course I am. I'm Santa. 702 00:40:41,605 --> 00:40:44,358 Ow, ooh. Ow, that hurt. I'm real. Look, pinch me." 703 00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:49,947 We've got a lot of Mrs. Clauses now, 704 00:40:50,030 --> 00:40:52,032 and they're looking to figure out 705 00:40:52,116 --> 00:40:55,536 how they can really become part of the community. 706 00:40:55,619 --> 00:40:58,289 Round ones on the front part. 707 00:40:58,372 --> 00:40:59,915 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 708 00:41:08,632 --> 00:41:11,469 We really try to make it an interactive program. 709 00:41:11,552 --> 00:41:15,222 Okay, so Santa loves to laugh, right? 710 00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:18,934 So what do you do first is you start with a little giggle. 711 00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:26,567 - No. - Please join me. 712 00:41:28,694 --> 00:41:32,114 - Can you say "ho, ho, ho"? - Come on, Fin. 713 00:41:32,198 --> 00:41:37,077 Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. 714 00:41:37,161 --> 00:41:38,913 Good job, Fin. 715 00:41:38,996 --> 00:41:41,540 The most common thing we hear after camp is, 716 00:41:41,624 --> 00:41:44,877 "I think my brain's gonna explode." 717 00:42:12,696 --> 00:42:15,449 Being the only person of color here, 718 00:42:15,532 --> 00:42:19,161 it was definitely lonely and awkward, 719 00:42:19,245 --> 00:42:20,788 to say the least. 720 00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:28,045 Does Santa have a diversity problem? 721 00:42:28,128 --> 00:42:29,505 Boy, that is a good question. 722 00:42:29,588 --> 00:42:33,384 Why is he predominantly white? 723 00:42:34,718 --> 00:42:37,263 Um... 724 00:42:37,346 --> 00:42:39,515 Hmm. 725 00:42:39,598 --> 00:42:41,600 I don't know if it's a diversity problem 726 00:42:41,684 --> 00:42:45,145 or it's just people accept that Santa is a certain way. 727 00:42:45,229 --> 00:42:48,023 It's probably historical. 728 00:42:48,107 --> 00:42:49,400 Yeah. 729 00:42:49,483 --> 00:42:53,904 And, actually, the first Santa was from Turkey. 730 00:42:53,988 --> 00:42:56,282 So he really wasn't white. 731 00:42:56,365 --> 00:42:58,576 He was 732 00:42:58,659 --> 00:43:01,161 olive, would you say? 733 00:43:01,245 --> 00:43:03,163 Santa's an icon. 734 00:43:03,247 --> 00:43:07,126 Coke was a big promoter of what Santa looked like, 735 00:43:07,209 --> 00:43:09,128 to the point where you have customers 736 00:43:09,211 --> 00:43:12,298 who come along and say, "I want Santa." 737 00:43:12,381 --> 00:43:14,383 And they know exactly what they want. 738 00:43:14,466 --> 00:43:16,719 They want the Coke Santa. 739 00:43:16,802 --> 00:43:18,679 Over all the years I've done this, 740 00:43:18,762 --> 00:43:21,140 I have never been asked by a child, 741 00:43:21,223 --> 00:43:22,683 "How come you're white? 742 00:43:22,766 --> 00:43:24,727 How come Santa isn't Black like me?" 743 00:43:24,810 --> 00:43:26,478 So kids don't see color. 744 00:43:26,562 --> 00:43:31,692 Do you find that the challenge of being a Santa, 745 00:43:31,775 --> 00:43:35,529 when most of us look like this, is tough, 746 00:43:35,612 --> 00:43:38,615 or do you think it's gonna become more and more accepted? 747 00:43:38,699 --> 00:43:42,202 I don't think it'll be as tough as most would think 748 00:43:42,286 --> 00:43:46,749 because there is a request, a need out there. 749 00:43:46,832 --> 00:43:48,917 For us, the closest Santa 750 00:43:49,001 --> 00:43:51,420 would have been New Orleans or Houston. 751 00:43:51,503 --> 00:43:52,963 - Yeah. - Five to nine hours away. 752 00:43:53,047 --> 00:43:55,424 So I'm gonna be my own. 753 00:43:58,385 --> 00:44:02,598 Are you looking to be Santa elsewhere? 754 00:44:02,681 --> 00:44:04,141 - Yes. - In other words... 755 00:44:04,224 --> 00:44:06,685 - Okay. - Yes. 756 00:44:06,769 --> 00:44:09,730 It's... that's 757 00:44:09,813 --> 00:44:10,898 yeah. 758 00:44:10,981 --> 00:44:13,275 So... yeah. 759 00:44:15,527 --> 00:44:17,571 I don't necessarily think that other Santas 760 00:44:17,654 --> 00:44:19,865 were asked those kind of questions. 761 00:44:21,617 --> 00:44:23,786 There are definitely a few Santas 762 00:44:23,869 --> 00:44:25,788 that are uncomfortable with a Santa of color 763 00:44:25,871 --> 00:44:28,165 or, in general, with me being here. 764 00:44:29,708 --> 00:44:33,253 But it's not a new experience to me 765 00:44:33,337 --> 00:44:35,881 because I've gone through it all my life. 766 00:44:40,636 --> 00:44:43,764 It's not a ball, teddy bear. 767 00:44:46,183 --> 00:44:48,352 Santa, of course, is the limelight, 768 00:44:48,435 --> 00:44:51,939 but Mrs. Claus has been coming up into that limelight 769 00:44:52,022 --> 00:44:53,190 quite a bit in the last, 770 00:44:53,273 --> 00:44:55,275 I don't know, eight to ten years. 771 00:44:55,359 --> 00:44:58,028 I needed an outlet for the seriousness of nursing. 772 00:44:58,112 --> 00:45:00,614 And now we're here. So you just never know. 773 00:45:00,697 --> 00:45:03,951 I think that the Mrs. Santas tend to be overlooked a lot. 774 00:45:04,034 --> 00:45:07,830 Sometimes you feel like, "Ah, nobody cares." 775 00:45:07,913 --> 00:45:09,957 Santa and Mrs. Claus don't always get along. 776 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,459 No, because they're two different people, 777 00:45:12,543 --> 00:45:16,296 sometimes with two different opinions about things. 778 00:45:16,380 --> 00:45:18,507 Most of the time they better, though. 779 00:45:25,013 --> 00:45:28,559 Any of you who are Mrs. Clauses 780 00:45:28,642 --> 00:45:30,144 it is a chore 781 00:45:30,227 --> 00:45:32,980 trying to make sure they're all dressed 782 00:45:33,063 --> 00:45:35,858 and they look good and they're presentable 783 00:45:35,941 --> 00:45:40,487 and they have their white gloves and they're all clean. 784 00:45:40,571 --> 00:45:41,739 That's interesting. 785 00:45:41,822 --> 00:45:43,240 After all these years, 786 00:45:43,323 --> 00:45:45,826 I wondered how my stuff all got put together. 787 00:45:47,327 --> 00:45:48,996 Just a comment on that. 788 00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:53,500 It's good for the kids to see that they're married, 789 00:45:53,584 --> 00:45:57,671 that they're married like their parents are married, 790 00:45:57,754 --> 00:46:00,674 that it's not that much different, 791 00:46:00,757 --> 00:46:04,178 except that he's Santa Claus and that's Mrs. Claus. 792 00:46:05,929 --> 00:46:09,766 Santa is often considered the lead performer, 793 00:46:09,850 --> 00:46:11,977 and Mrs. Claus is the support character. 794 00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:15,647 How do each of you balance your performances 795 00:46:15,731 --> 00:46:18,025 to share that spotlight? 796 00:46:18,108 --> 00:46:22,237 I have heard Santas ask for the pricing schedule, 797 00:46:22,321 --> 00:46:26,074 and it'd be $100 for me and Mrs. Claus. 798 00:46:26,158 --> 00:46:28,094 And they said, "Well, you know, that's a little steep. 799 00:46:28,118 --> 00:46:30,412 How about if Mrs. Claus doesn't come?" 800 00:46:30,496 --> 00:46:32,456 And he says, "Then it'll be $150." 801 00:46:36,877 --> 00:46:39,379 That's a good point. 802 00:46:39,463 --> 00:46:44,009 We have another idea to that. 803 00:47:08,158 --> 00:47:09,326 Let him have it! 804 00:47:09,409 --> 00:47:11,995 Anybody know how to spell "doghouse"? 805 00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,915 Excuse me, I'm looking for the real Santa. 806 00:47:16,291 --> 00:47:17,834 It's like when you go to a show 807 00:47:17,918 --> 00:47:20,587 to see the Rolling Stones and they have a warm-up act. 808 00:47:25,676 --> 00:47:29,221 Boo! 809 00:47:29,304 --> 00:47:30,931 No, that's not the way we do it. 810 00:47:31,014 --> 00:47:32,975 - It's... it's... - My turn. 811 00:47:33,058 --> 00:47:35,435 I don't even know where to start with all this. 812 00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,062 But I will say that I think 813 00:47:37,145 --> 00:47:40,566 that your pricing structure needs to be rethought. 814 00:47:45,696 --> 00:47:48,907 That was rough. 815 00:47:49,950 --> 00:47:51,577 Can I help you, Santa? 816 00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:52,786 Can you dress yourself? 817 00:47:52,869 --> 00:47:54,621 - Stop it! - Are you gonna be okay? 818 00:47:54,705 --> 00:47:58,208 Do you need the fluff your fur? 'Cause... what the fuck? 819 00:47:58,292 --> 00:48:00,544 - Yeah, it was... - No. 820 00:48:00,627 --> 00:48:02,504 During the Mr. and Mrs. Claus panel, we, like, 821 00:48:02,588 --> 00:48:04,798 had to, like, nonverbally check in with each other. 822 00:48:04,881 --> 00:48:06,466 There was a lot of hand squeezing. 823 00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:07,884 Like, "Let's hold this together. 824 00:48:07,968 --> 00:48:09,344 Like, are you gonna say something?" 825 00:48:09,428 --> 00:48:11,054 - Breathing. - Yeah. 826 00:48:11,138 --> 00:48:13,032 And, like, the consistent narrative through that panel 827 00:48:13,056 --> 00:48:16,393 was, like, "Mrs. Claus'" whole purpose 828 00:48:16,476 --> 00:48:19,146 is, like, keeping her Santa together. 829 00:48:19,229 --> 00:48:20,731 - Yeah. - Gross. 830 00:48:20,814 --> 00:48:23,567 Like, we're not there anymore, I hope. 831 00:48:23,650 --> 00:48:25,986 I wish we would have said something when the guy said 832 00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:27,237 that it should be 833 00:48:27,321 --> 00:48:29,656 this traditional "husband and wife" thing. 834 00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:32,451 It didn't feel like a space where I could be like, 835 00:48:32,534 --> 00:48:34,995 "I'm sorry. What the fuck?" 836 00:48:35,078 --> 00:48:36,389 That was my... Coming out of it, I really wish 837 00:48:36,413 --> 00:48:38,832 that I would have said something 838 00:48:38,915 --> 00:48:40,542 or stood up in that moment. 839 00:48:42,044 --> 00:48:43,587 I think we're learning what we can. 840 00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:45,589 And in the moments where we just, like, 841 00:48:45,672 --> 00:48:47,466 are not getting any value out of this, 842 00:48:47,549 --> 00:48:49,760 we're gonna go and make our own fun. 843 00:48:56,058 --> 00:48:57,601 We're stealing this. 844 00:48:57,684 --> 00:49:00,103 This is officially our golf cart now. 845 00:49:03,148 --> 00:49:06,943 Don't tip. 846 00:49:07,027 --> 00:49:09,655 - Uh-oh. We're off-roading now. - Floor it! 847 00:49:09,738 --> 00:49:11,531 Don't "transplain" driving to me. 848 00:49:11,615 --> 00:49:13,533 I'm sorry. 849 00:49:15,410 --> 00:49:17,245 Birdie's in the tree. 850 00:49:21,416 --> 00:49:24,753 Merry Christmas! 851 00:49:24,836 --> 00:49:26,880 - Santa Land. - Santa Land. 852 00:49:26,963 --> 00:49:29,925 Oh. 853 00:49:34,054 --> 00:49:35,931 Oh, no, that's the hawk. 854 00:49:36,014 --> 00:49:37,891 Is that the red tail? 855 00:49:37,974 --> 00:49:40,227 - Yeah. - Yeah. 856 00:49:51,446 --> 00:49:55,992 I'm not what you would call a conventional Mrs. Claus. 857 00:49:56,076 --> 00:49:59,746 I guess you could say I'm not a dress wearer. 858 00:49:59,830 --> 00:50:02,582 In literature and pictures, 859 00:50:02,666 --> 00:50:06,753 I don't think I've ever once seen Santa 860 00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:09,756 with a woman with pants on. 861 00:50:15,387 --> 00:50:17,806 That looks awful. 862 00:50:17,889 --> 00:50:19,766 And she's got a really cool belt. 863 00:50:19,850 --> 00:50:22,269 I think that ties it all together. 864 00:50:22,352 --> 00:50:25,105 - What do I wear? - What does Mrs. Claus wear? 865 00:50:25,188 --> 00:50:27,774 So I have, you know, the little colonial bonnet. 866 00:50:27,858 --> 00:50:30,485 Put a little holly in my hair. 867 00:50:30,569 --> 00:50:32,696 - Oh, God. - I know, right? 868 00:50:32,779 --> 00:50:34,281 Oh, my God. 869 00:50:34,364 --> 00:50:36,616 You can make any kind of music you want. 870 00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:40,620 Walmart, online, $18. 871 00:50:41,663 --> 00:50:46,334 My view is Mrs. Claus is Santa's wife. 872 00:50:46,418 --> 00:50:49,045 When he's not there, she's in charge. 873 00:50:49,129 --> 00:50:51,590 She takes care of him like any good wife, you know? 874 00:50:51,673 --> 00:50:55,886 - I'm sorry. I'm Dr. Claus. - Like, I am not the wife. 875 00:50:57,596 --> 00:51:00,098 Like, I have my PhD. You're not gonna call me Mrs. Claus. 876 00:51:00,182 --> 00:51:02,017 I'm Dr. Claus. 877 00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:04,311 My spouse is trans, and I'm queer. 878 00:51:04,394 --> 00:51:06,229 Like, actually, when we come together, 879 00:51:06,313 --> 00:51:09,149 I really want to not bring up the fact that we're married 880 00:51:09,232 --> 00:51:11,485 and instead really emphasize, like, Santa's got a job, 881 00:51:11,568 --> 00:51:13,612 and I've got a job, and we work together 882 00:51:13,695 --> 00:51:15,864 and really make that space for folks. 883 00:51:19,618 --> 00:51:21,912 - Yay. - Bravo. 884 00:51:26,082 --> 00:51:29,336 - I love... I don't know... doctor. - That's, like, the best. 885 00:51:29,419 --> 00:51:31,254 That's so great. 886 00:51:31,338 --> 00:51:34,174 Yeah, I like the idea that it can be fluid. 887 00:51:34,257 --> 00:51:37,552 And I like the idea of being a goddess as well. 888 00:51:37,636 --> 00:51:39,846 Hey, you know, Mrs. Claus is real. 889 00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:41,556 She's here. She's a part of it. 890 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,058 And we get to define her, 891 00:51:43,141 --> 00:51:45,560 and that's a great freedom, I think. 892 00:51:45,644 --> 00:51:48,814 - Let me ask... how about pay? - Oh, absolutely. 893 00:51:48,897 --> 00:51:50,857 Mrs. Claus should have equal billing, 894 00:51:50,941 --> 00:51:53,485 because then it's not even about negotiating, 895 00:51:53,568 --> 00:51:56,112 it's just knowing to have... 896 00:51:56,196 --> 00:51:57,447 It's courtesy and respect 897 00:51:57,531 --> 00:52:00,200 in terms of, now we can set the tone. 898 00:52:00,283 --> 00:52:02,661 One thing that I would like to see changed is, 899 00:52:02,744 --> 00:52:06,373 I want to see pant suits thrown in there somewhere. 900 00:52:08,166 --> 00:52:10,353 I'm just learning so much just by what everybody says. 901 00:52:10,377 --> 00:52:14,089 It's like a potpourri of ideas and information. 902 00:52:14,172 --> 00:52:15,507 It's like, "Wow." 903 00:52:15,590 --> 00:52:17,843 I'm glad I didn't miss today's get-together. 904 00:52:27,602 --> 00:52:31,064 All: Ho, ho, ho! Ho, ho, ho! 905 00:52:31,147 --> 00:52:35,151 Ho, ho, ho! 906 00:52:35,235 --> 00:52:37,821 Nice job. We're getting there. 907 00:52:40,657 --> 00:52:43,869 We have a little presentation and some information 908 00:52:43,952 --> 00:52:47,080 we want to share before we have lunch. 909 00:52:47,163 --> 00:52:49,791 If you're a student of Dick Marshall's, 910 00:52:49,875 --> 00:52:52,294 would you stand up, please? 911 00:52:55,463 --> 00:52:57,507 Not yet. Not yet, Norm. 912 00:52:57,591 --> 00:52:59,384 Not yet. 913 00:53:02,929 --> 00:53:06,182 Today we're gonna recognize Dick. 914 00:53:09,352 --> 00:53:11,938 Can we have a moment of silence 915 00:53:12,022 --> 00:53:14,482 for Dick Marshall, please? 916 00:53:45,221 --> 00:53:47,265 I just want you to think about us 917 00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:49,976 when you're doing your stuff for this season. 918 00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:53,229 And if there's something that bubbles up and you're thinking, 919 00:53:53,313 --> 00:53:55,690 "Wow, this might be a really cool thing for those guys." 920 00:53:55,774 --> 00:53:58,652 What do you want to do, Fin? Why don't you tell us? 921 00:53:58,735 --> 00:54:03,114 I want to be a Santa in December parade. 922 00:54:03,198 --> 00:54:05,492 That's not easy. 923 00:54:05,575 --> 00:54:08,411 I mean, what happens is, 924 00:54:08,495 --> 00:54:10,997 they get a Santa who's local, 925 00:54:11,081 --> 00:54:15,001 and so he's there until he takes his last sleigh ride. 926 00:54:15,085 --> 00:54:16,336 That's right. 927 00:54:16,419 --> 00:54:18,296 - No, it's very territorial. - Yeah. 928 00:54:18,380 --> 00:54:20,465 There's a little bit of competitiveness 929 00:54:20,548 --> 00:54:22,592 around stuff, I've noticed. 930 00:54:22,676 --> 00:54:24,010 Well... 931 00:54:24,094 --> 00:54:26,179 I, literally, as his mom, was telling him, 932 00:54:26,262 --> 00:54:27,973 "No, this is not going to happen. 933 00:54:28,056 --> 00:54:29,683 You need to let go of this dream." 934 00:54:29,766 --> 00:54:32,227 And he's like, "No, I'm not letting go of this dream." 935 00:54:32,310 --> 00:54:34,104 What about my sleigh? 936 00:54:34,187 --> 00:54:36,022 So you want to be in your sleigh 937 00:54:36,106 --> 00:54:37,399 when you're in the parade. 938 00:54:37,482 --> 00:54:39,192 - Oh, there's an idea. - Yes. 939 00:54:39,275 --> 00:54:42,237 - Yeah. - That's a big yes. Okay. 940 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,198 It's a Portland Cutter. 941 00:54:45,281 --> 00:54:49,035 It was built in the early 1900s. 942 00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:51,246 You could say, "Well, we have a sleigh. 943 00:54:51,329 --> 00:54:52,747 We have a flatbed." 944 00:54:52,831 --> 00:54:56,376 Kind of put together almost, you know, packages 945 00:54:56,459 --> 00:54:58,545 - that you can offer to people. - Oh, my God, okay. 946 00:54:58,628 --> 00:54:59,963 Ho, ho, ho. 947 00:55:00,046 --> 00:55:02,298 - Would you wave? - Let me see your queen's wave. 948 00:55:02,382 --> 00:55:04,384 Big waves, both sides, Fin. 949 00:55:04,467 --> 00:55:06,070 You need to work out every day during this. 950 00:55:06,094 --> 00:55:07,971 All right, we're gonna start working out 951 00:55:08,054 --> 00:55:09,556 your arms there, Santa. 952 00:55:09,639 --> 00:55:12,100 Left side, right side. 953 00:55:12,183 --> 00:55:14,978 Left side, right side. 954 00:55:15,061 --> 00:55:17,897 Great gigs can be hard to get. 955 00:55:17,981 --> 00:55:22,110 And if it doesn't happen, it's gonna suck. 956 00:55:22,193 --> 00:55:24,320 It's gonna really suck. 957 00:55:45,008 --> 00:55:48,136 So, Bob, you've got to tell your Christmas Eve story. 958 00:55:49,763 --> 00:55:52,640 People are coming in and telling me what they want. 959 00:55:52,724 --> 00:55:56,227 This one teenage girl comes up. She sat on my lap. 960 00:55:56,311 --> 00:55:59,064 And I went, "Oh, my God." 961 00:55:59,147 --> 00:56:01,316 They must have had a chili cook-off 962 00:56:01,399 --> 00:56:03,151 the night before or something. 963 00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:12,368 So who else has some stories to share? 964 00:56:23,338 --> 00:56:25,799 So the story 965 00:56:25,882 --> 00:56:29,177 actually starts a long time ago. 966 00:56:29,260 --> 00:56:32,680 I wanted my daughter to grow up with representation 967 00:56:32,764 --> 00:56:35,141 of our family. 968 00:56:35,225 --> 00:56:39,604 So what I decided to do was to get 969 00:56:39,687 --> 00:56:42,982 a Black Santa inflatable. 970 00:56:43,066 --> 00:56:46,778 Last year I get a letter in the mail. 971 00:56:46,861 --> 00:56:49,697 And the letter 972 00:56:49,781 --> 00:56:52,075 is. 973 00:56:52,158 --> 00:56:53,660 Right here. 974 00:56:56,121 --> 00:56:59,958 "Please remove your Negro Santa Claus yard decoration. 975 00:57:00,041 --> 00:57:02,001 "You should not try to deceive children 976 00:57:02,085 --> 00:57:05,672 "into believing that I am a Negro. 977 00:57:05,755 --> 00:57:07,715 "I am a Caucasian, 978 00:57:07,799 --> 00:57:09,759 white man to you, 979 00:57:09,843 --> 00:57:12,178 "and have been for the past 600 years. 980 00:57:12,262 --> 00:57:15,140 "Your being jealous of my race 981 00:57:15,223 --> 00:57:19,644 "is no excuse for your dishonesty. 982 00:57:19,727 --> 00:57:23,273 "Besides that, you're making yourself a laughingstock 983 00:57:23,356 --> 00:57:25,150 "of the neighborhood. 984 00:57:25,233 --> 00:57:28,069 "Maybe you should move 985 00:57:28,153 --> 00:57:32,532 "to a neighborhood with the rest of your race's kind. 986 00:57:32,615 --> 00:57:35,702 Yours truly, Santa Claus." 987 00:57:38,246 --> 00:57:39,873 And 988 00:57:39,956 --> 00:57:41,416 it came with a picture 989 00:57:41,499 --> 00:57:45,795 Santa Claus with a thumbs-down. 990 00:57:45,879 --> 00:57:47,505 Oh, my God. 991 00:57:49,716 --> 00:57:53,636 I brought this to do this here. 992 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:58,266 Yeah! 993 00:58:05,315 --> 00:58:08,401 I'm gonna be the Santa 994 00:58:08,484 --> 00:58:10,403 for kids that look like me in my area. 995 00:58:10,486 --> 00:58:13,573 And coming here has given me the tools 996 00:58:13,656 --> 00:58:15,783 to be able to do that to the best of my abilities. 997 00:58:15,867 --> 00:58:17,827 And I'm so happy that I got to come 998 00:58:17,911 --> 00:58:19,913 and spend this weekend in New England. 999 00:58:19,996 --> 00:58:23,124 Welcome. 1000 00:58:25,460 --> 00:58:27,587 Who wants to follow that story? 1001 00:58:30,673 --> 00:58:33,927 - All right, everybody up. - Let's go. 1002 00:58:36,012 --> 00:58:37,931 I don't know the words. 1003 00:58:38,014 --> 00:58:39,807 Let's all teach him. 1004 00:58:39,891 --> 00:58:41,976 - All right, ready? - Ready? 1005 00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:43,228 Who do we start with? 1006 00:58:43,311 --> 00:58:45,104 - Dasher. - Okay. 1007 00:59:01,579 --> 00:59:03,456 And you got to shake the tail. 1008 00:59:03,539 --> 00:59:04,999 - Right, yeah. - There you go. 1009 00:59:32,402 --> 00:59:34,487 Next year I'm planning to come back 1010 00:59:34,570 --> 00:59:36,322 - and bring my wife with me. - Oh, neat. 1011 00:59:36,406 --> 00:59:39,659 She might as well go to Mrs. Claus school, too, so.., 1012 00:59:39,742 --> 00:59:41,536 - Yeah, my wife is there now. - Okay. 1013 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,544 - Levi, step forward, sir. - Thank you. 1014 00:59:49,627 --> 00:59:51,421 - Thank you. - Ho, ho, ho! 1015 00:59:51,504 --> 00:59:53,631 Ho, ho, ho! 1016 00:59:59,595 --> 01:00:02,807 - Here's my card. - Thank you. 1017 01:00:02,890 --> 01:00:04,809 I love that. Awesome. 1018 01:00:04,892 --> 01:00:06,227 Give me a high five. 1019 01:00:06,311 --> 01:00:08,187 This has been a wonderful experience for me. 1020 01:00:08,271 --> 01:00:10,398 It has been. Thank you. Bye-bye. 1021 01:00:10,481 --> 01:00:12,233 Bye-bye. Come on. 1022 01:00:14,110 --> 01:00:16,904 So I hope you're going away with some good memories, 1023 01:00:16,988 --> 01:00:18,781 lots of information. 1024 01:00:18,865 --> 01:00:23,536 And make sure you grab a snowball on your way out 1025 01:00:23,619 --> 01:00:27,373 and take that home and put it up on your desk, 1026 01:00:27,457 --> 01:00:29,042 on your bedside, 1027 01:00:29,125 --> 01:00:31,005 or carry it with you when you go out and do gigs 1028 01:00:31,085 --> 01:00:33,796 and remember that all together 1029 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,633 we've really created a special world here 1030 01:00:37,717 --> 01:00:41,721 and a special experience 1031 01:00:41,804 --> 01:00:44,098 that hopefully won't melt away. 1032 01:00:57,695 --> 01:01:00,865 We're fine. 1033 01:01:20,468 --> 01:01:22,637 Oh, my God. 1034 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,100 This is Suki. 1035 01:01:27,183 --> 01:01:30,103 - Hey, Suki. - It's MK Monley calling. 1036 01:01:30,186 --> 01:01:31,979 MK Monley? Hello. 1037 01:01:32,063 --> 01:01:34,440 - Yeah. - Hey, from the lantern parade. 1038 01:01:34,524 --> 01:01:36,901 Yes. Yes. Hi. 1039 01:01:36,984 --> 01:01:40,530 Yeah, so I just wanted to let you know our team met, 1040 01:01:40,613 --> 01:01:43,449 and we would 1041 01:01:43,533 --> 01:01:45,743 love to have Fin participate. 1042 01:01:45,827 --> 01:01:47,912 Oh, my God! 1043 01:01:47,995 --> 01:01:50,456 Oh, my God! I'm, like... 1044 01:01:50,540 --> 01:01:52,959 - Yeah, so we'll... - Can I just tell Santa Fin? 1045 01:01:53,042 --> 01:01:56,421 Need to figure out logistics and... 1046 01:01:56,504 --> 01:01:57,964 Indeed. 1047 01:01:58,047 --> 01:02:02,510 You guys, this is MK Monley calling from Waterbury, 1048 01:02:02,593 --> 01:02:05,847 and you're gonna be in her beautiful. 1049 01:02:05,930 --> 01:02:08,307 Festival of Lights Parade this year. 1050 01:02:08,391 --> 01:02:10,476 - Oh, my God! - Whoo-hoo! 1051 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,520 - Oh, my God, Fin Barre. - That's so exciting. 1052 01:02:12,603 --> 01:02:14,147 He is so excited. 1053 01:02:14,230 --> 01:02:16,149 I wish you could see him right now. 1054 01:02:16,232 --> 01:02:17,650 He's jumping up and down. 1055 01:02:17,733 --> 01:02:19,360 Oh, oh, okay, no. Be careful. Be careful. 1056 01:02:19,444 --> 01:02:20,987 He's actually jumping up and down. 1057 01:02:21,070 --> 01:02:23,656 Well, MK, we'll be in touch soon, okay? 1058 01:02:23,739 --> 01:02:25,825 - Okay, thanks. - All right. Thank you. 1059 01:02:25,908 --> 01:02:28,453 From the bottom of my heart, thank you. 1060 01:02:28,536 --> 01:02:31,581 - Bye-bye. - Okay, bye-bye. 1061 01:02:31,664 --> 01:02:34,167 Ho, ho, ho, ho. 1062 01:02:34,250 --> 01:02:36,335 - Yes! - Oh, my God. 1063 01:02:36,419 --> 01:02:39,380 Oh, Fin Barre, you're gonna be in a parade. 1064 01:02:39,464 --> 01:02:41,549 Need a little Santa dance. 1065 01:02:41,632 --> 01:02:43,342 Yeah. 1066 01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:47,638 I just didn't think they were gonna make space for us. 1067 01:02:50,099 --> 01:02:54,437 And I'm so grateful that she decided to. 1068 01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,607 So exciting! 1069 01:03:04,030 --> 01:03:06,991 He's got plain black boots on. 1070 01:03:07,074 --> 01:03:09,202 And then the boots are going to be completely black? 1071 01:03:09,285 --> 01:03:10,495 They'll be completely black, 1072 01:03:10,578 --> 01:03:12,663 but I will do some little accents 1073 01:03:12,747 --> 01:03:14,874 to make him kind of have a little shine. 1074 01:03:14,957 --> 01:03:16,667 No, it's great. 1075 01:03:16,751 --> 01:03:18,669 There's nothing like this for me to buy. 1076 01:03:18,753 --> 01:03:21,339 - That's right. - That is absolutely right. 1077 01:03:21,422 --> 01:03:22,965 So, after what happened last year, 1078 01:03:23,049 --> 01:03:26,928 I decided to go ahead and switch from inflatables 1079 01:03:27,011 --> 01:03:30,056 to having a real-life representation 1080 01:03:30,139 --> 01:03:32,642 of our family. 1081 01:03:32,725 --> 01:03:35,520 We are definitely sending a message here. 1082 01:03:35,603 --> 01:03:39,899 This is gonna be bigger, better, Blacker than last year. 1083 01:03:50,493 --> 01:03:53,287 To review saved messages, press 3. 1084 01:03:55,373 --> 01:03:56,582 I am calling you 1085 01:03:56,666 --> 01:04:00,503 about your Trans Santa event 1086 01:04:00,586 --> 01:04:02,421 on Thursday. 1087 01:04:02,505 --> 01:04:03,923 That is disgusting. 1088 01:04:04,006 --> 01:04:06,926 It makes you look like a pedophile. 1089 01:04:07,009 --> 01:04:10,304 Trans people have mental issues, 1090 01:04:10,388 --> 01:04:13,933 and they should not be around children. 1091 01:04:14,016 --> 01:04:17,687 You are disgusting that you are doing this. 1092 01:04:17,770 --> 01:04:19,689 It's Marxist. It's Communist. 1093 01:04:19,772 --> 01:04:21,816 It's a way to bring down our society. 1094 01:04:21,899 --> 01:04:24,652 It's a way to lure our children. 1095 01:04:24,735 --> 01:04:26,445 You are disgusting. 1096 01:04:26,529 --> 01:04:28,489 Just letting you know. 1097 01:04:29,865 --> 01:04:32,076 "Just letting you know." 1098 01:04:33,369 --> 01:04:37,873 There are currently over 300 responses. 1099 01:04:37,957 --> 01:04:40,084 About three months ago, 1100 01:04:40,167 --> 01:04:41,669 we decided to host an event 1101 01:04:41,752 --> 01:04:44,880 with Youth Outlook and Illinois Safe Space Alliance 1102 01:04:44,964 --> 01:04:45,964 for Trans Santa. 1103 01:04:46,007 --> 01:04:47,508 And this past week, 1104 01:04:47,592 --> 01:04:50,636 our church has been getting emails and phone calls, 1105 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,807 Facebook messages, typical hate messages, right? 1106 01:04:54,890 --> 01:04:57,852 Here's one... "This church is inviting Trans Santa Claus" 1107 01:04:57,935 --> 01:05:00,646 "for children to interact and learn with. 1108 01:05:00,730 --> 01:05:03,190 "You should be ashamed that you bowed down 1109 01:05:03,274 --> 01:05:06,152 "to the woke, liberal minority in society. 1110 01:05:06,235 --> 01:05:10,114 All comment and post about this bull crap." 1111 01:05:11,824 --> 01:05:13,284 Yeah. 1112 01:05:13,367 --> 01:05:15,453 The Proud Boys did send a video 1113 01:05:15,536 --> 01:05:17,538 insinuating that they might show up 1114 01:05:17,622 --> 01:05:18,873 because of Trans Santa. 1115 01:05:18,956 --> 01:05:21,417 - How does that make you feel? - Afraid. 1116 01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,797 You know, we know now that The Proud Boys 1117 01:05:26,881 --> 01:05:30,009 played a big role in what happened on January 6th. 1118 01:05:30,092 --> 01:05:31,761 We don't know if they have weapons 1119 01:05:31,844 --> 01:05:34,555 or what they're capable of and what their desire is. 1120 01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:37,350 So, yeah, kind of scary. 1121 01:05:47,193 --> 01:05:50,029 So we're doing an event tonight. 1122 01:05:50,112 --> 01:05:52,865 I'm pretty excited about it. 1123 01:05:52,948 --> 01:05:54,867 I want to reach kids 1124 01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:58,245 that might need to ask Santa for something 1125 01:05:58,329 --> 01:06:02,792 that they couldn't ask regular Santa for. 1126 01:06:02,875 --> 01:06:05,044 I changed up my outfit. 1127 01:06:05,127 --> 01:06:06,545 Yeah. 1128 01:06:06,629 --> 01:06:09,173 Power suit needed to happen. 1129 01:06:09,256 --> 01:06:10,800 I'm not sure this is a power suit, 1130 01:06:10,883 --> 01:06:12,527 except for the fact that it's super empowering. 1131 01:06:12,551 --> 01:06:14,762 It's much more lounge wear. 1132 01:06:14,845 --> 01:06:17,390 Although it was marketed to be worn to work, 1133 01:06:17,473 --> 01:06:18,933 which I think is hilarious. 1134 01:06:19,016 --> 01:06:21,102 I did add the faux fur myself, 1135 01:06:21,185 --> 01:06:24,021 just to help Claus it up a little bit. 1136 01:06:25,314 --> 01:06:27,608 And then for fun, 1137 01:06:27,692 --> 01:06:30,528 we just assumed that the Clauses need corrective eye wear 1138 01:06:30,611 --> 01:06:33,572 'cause it feels a little bit classy. 1139 01:06:35,157 --> 01:06:38,369 There's been some positive and negative reactions. 1140 01:06:39,537 --> 01:06:41,831 Some people have been really affirming and sort of like, 1141 01:06:41,914 --> 01:06:44,542 "This should have been in place years ago. 1142 01:06:44,625 --> 01:06:47,253 Thank you for filling this need." 1143 01:06:47,336 --> 01:06:49,922 And other people reacted in fear. 1144 01:06:50,005 --> 01:06:52,258 This one. 1145 01:06:52,341 --> 01:06:54,468 "The Devil isn't even hiding anymore. 1146 01:06:54,552 --> 01:06:56,303 Disgusting." 1147 01:06:56,387 --> 01:06:57,638 Wow. 1148 01:06:57,722 --> 01:07:00,099 - I'm sorry. What? - Are you the Devil? 1149 01:07:00,182 --> 01:07:01,684 You do look very good in red. 1150 01:07:01,767 --> 01:07:06,147 - I do look good in red. I do. - Yeah. 1151 01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:08,107 I'm more scared for other people 1152 01:07:08,190 --> 01:07:10,901 than I am for myself, if that makes sense. 1153 01:07:10,985 --> 01:07:12,027 Like... 1154 01:07:12,111 --> 01:07:13,988 We really hope that people 1155 01:07:14,071 --> 01:07:17,032 still are able to come and be jolly 1156 01:07:17,116 --> 01:07:21,078 and not have to worry about 1157 01:07:21,162 --> 01:07:22,538 feeling unsafe. 1158 01:07:22,621 --> 01:07:24,290 Yeah. 1159 01:07:35,593 --> 01:07:37,344 Because of the threats that we received, 1160 01:07:37,428 --> 01:07:40,514 we felt like it was the safest for everybody to move venues. 1161 01:07:40,598 --> 01:07:42,475 We started looking 1162 01:07:42,558 --> 01:07:44,518 at hiring security for the event. 1163 01:07:44,602 --> 01:07:47,313 And the only people who know 1164 01:07:47,396 --> 01:07:49,190 where this event is happening tonight 1165 01:07:49,273 --> 01:07:51,066 are folks who registered for the event. 1166 01:07:51,150 --> 01:07:53,986 - We were pissed. - You know, we were mad. 1167 01:07:54,069 --> 01:07:55,821 Like, we didn't want to back down, 1168 01:07:55,905 --> 01:07:57,573 and we wanted to continue to host. 1169 01:07:57,656 --> 01:08:00,159 We had such a great space, but at the same time, 1170 01:08:00,242 --> 01:08:02,536 we're never gonna compromise the safety of people. 1171 01:08:02,620 --> 01:08:03,996 But it was also really frustrating. 1172 01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:06,207 And sometimes it feels like they won. 1173 01:08:06,290 --> 01:08:07,958 - Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you. 1174 01:08:08,042 --> 01:08:11,003 Do you want to sit with us and have your photo taken? 1175 01:08:11,086 --> 01:08:13,088 I'm Trans Santa. Smile. 1176 01:08:13,172 --> 01:08:15,716 - Everyone be jolly! - Be jolly! 1177 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,551 - Bye! - Merry Christmas. 1178 01:08:17,635 --> 01:08:19,762 - It was nice meeting you. - Thank you for coming. 1179 01:08:19,845 --> 01:08:21,013 Both: Bye. 1180 01:08:21,096 --> 01:08:22,473 You need to "ho, ho, ho" more. 1181 01:08:22,556 --> 01:08:23,599 Ho, ho, ho. 1182 01:08:23,682 --> 01:08:25,601 - Both: Hi. - What's your name? 1183 01:08:25,684 --> 01:08:26,811 - My name's Ally. - Ally. 1184 01:08:26,894 --> 01:08:28,187 - Pronouns? - They, them. 1185 01:08:28,270 --> 01:08:31,315 - They, them. All right. - I'm Trans Santa. 1186 01:08:31,398 --> 01:08:33,359 - I'm Dr. Claus. - It's nice to meet you. 1187 01:08:33,442 --> 01:08:34,944 - Hi. - It's nice to meet you, too. 1188 01:08:35,027 --> 01:08:36,630 Do you want to tell us what you want for Christmas? 1189 01:08:36,654 --> 01:08:38,256 - Oh, we got to do photos. - Oh, yeah. Photos, sorry. 1190 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:39,865 I just always want to talk to people. 1191 01:08:39,949 --> 01:08:41,951 - Good, good. - Okay. Okay. 1192 01:08:42,034 --> 01:08:44,745 I want to be able to come out fully to my parents 1193 01:08:44,829 --> 01:08:46,413 and get a binder, 1194 01:08:46,497 --> 01:08:49,834 'cause the last time I asked, they weren't... 1195 01:08:49,917 --> 01:08:51,710 Like, they didn't really understand why. 1196 01:08:51,794 --> 01:08:53,587 And so I want to be able to tell them, 1197 01:08:53,671 --> 01:08:55,214 this year, like, fully, 1198 01:08:55,297 --> 01:08:58,884 and I want to ask them for Christmas, so 1199 01:08:58,968 --> 01:09:01,595 I know, like, when I got my first binder... 1200 01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:02,805 Yeah. 1201 01:09:02,888 --> 01:09:06,225 I was like... so 1202 01:09:06,308 --> 01:09:09,728 it changed me because it, like, empowered me 1203 01:09:09,812 --> 01:09:12,731 to have the body of the person that I wanted to be. 1204 01:09:12,815 --> 01:09:15,776 I hope to empower you in that step as much as possible. 1205 01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:17,736 It's very empowering being in your presence. 1206 01:09:17,820 --> 01:09:20,281 - Yeah. Aw, thank you. - Merry Christmas. 1207 01:09:20,364 --> 01:09:23,075 - Binder, it's gonna happen. - I can feel it. 1208 01:09:23,158 --> 01:09:24,410 - Yeah. - Yes. 1209 01:09:24,493 --> 01:09:26,829 Make it happen. 1210 01:09:29,248 --> 01:09:31,584 What is happening right now? 1211 01:09:34,378 --> 01:09:35,880 Hi, guys. 1212 01:09:35,963 --> 01:09:39,884 We came out tonight for the Tranny Santa Claus meetup 1213 01:09:39,967 --> 01:09:43,304 'cause me and a few sisters, we're like, "There's no way" 1214 01:09:43,387 --> 01:09:44,889 "that we're gonna allow this to happen 1215 01:09:44,972 --> 01:09:47,600 without coming and speaking the truth." 1216 01:09:47,683 --> 01:09:50,519 The enemy is not hiding, and neither can we. 1217 01:09:50,603 --> 01:09:53,480 So we have to be bold. 1218 01:09:53,564 --> 01:09:54,607 Oh. 1219 01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:58,694 Camera crew's here. 1220 01:09:58,777 --> 01:10:00,446 - Hey, how's it going? - Hi, it's going. 1221 01:10:00,529 --> 01:10:01,864 How are you today? 1222 01:10:01,947 --> 01:10:04,450 Wondering why you guys turned up here tonight. 1223 01:10:04,533 --> 01:10:06,911 We're Christians, and so we came out tonight 1224 01:10:06,994 --> 01:10:09,955 to just try to stand up for the children. 1225 01:10:10,039 --> 01:10:13,375 This is a ploy to steal, kill, 1226 01:10:13,459 --> 01:10:16,879 and destroy somebody's identity 1227 01:10:16,962 --> 01:10:18,797 at a pivotal point in history right now 1228 01:10:18,881 --> 01:10:20,633 where our country is going downhill, 1229 01:10:20,716 --> 01:10:22,819 when they're trying to roll in Communism and things like that. 1230 01:10:22,843 --> 01:10:24,553 We see Marxism, and we just see them 1231 01:10:24,637 --> 01:10:26,513 trying to disassemble our values. 1232 01:10:26,597 --> 01:10:28,933 The Holy Spirit told me that I should just come out 1233 01:10:29,016 --> 01:10:31,268 and, you know, represent the kingdom. 1234 01:10:31,352 --> 01:10:33,646 - Thanks, guys. - Thank you. 1235 01:10:39,401 --> 01:10:40,527 Yeah. 1236 01:10:40,611 --> 01:10:42,613 - Yeah, it really was. - It was? 1237 01:10:42,696 --> 01:10:44,615 - Yeah. - That was the Holy Ghost. 1238 01:10:44,698 --> 01:10:46,951 It was. 1239 01:10:47,034 --> 01:10:50,162 We will stand up for the Lord no matter what. 1240 01:10:50,246 --> 01:10:52,706 We do not care. We are the news. 1241 01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:55,960 We are the revolution. We are the children of God. 1242 01:10:56,043 --> 01:11:00,839 We are the remnant. We are the patriots! 1243 01:11:05,427 --> 01:11:07,030 You won't even let us watch what's going on? 1244 01:11:07,054 --> 01:11:08,389 Is this a secret? 1245 01:11:08,472 --> 01:11:09,991 We haven't threatened anyone, attacked anyone. 1246 01:11:10,015 --> 01:11:11,743 - We haven't done anything. - We're not leaving. 1247 01:11:11,767 --> 01:11:12,893 Yeah. We're not leaving. 1248 01:11:12,977 --> 01:11:14,561 - Are you the Proud Boys? - Yeah. 1249 01:11:14,645 --> 01:11:16,539 - Yeah, I'm a Proud Boy. - See our shirts, right? 1250 01:11:16,563 --> 01:11:19,149 - Can you read? - Sure, here, take it. 1251 01:11:19,233 --> 01:11:21,902 That's what we're about. 1252 01:11:21,986 --> 01:11:25,864 Proud Boys have never killed anybody, ever, ever. 1253 01:11:25,948 --> 01:11:27,366 This is at the heart 1254 01:11:27,449 --> 01:11:29,702 of the cultural problem in America today. 1255 01:11:29,785 --> 01:11:32,287 You guys moved the location, or there would have been more. 1256 01:11:32,371 --> 01:11:34,415 But there's gonna be more here soon. 1257 01:11:34,498 --> 01:11:36,959 We have a lot of people that live in Naperville, 1258 01:11:37,042 --> 01:11:38,127 so good luck. 1259 01:11:41,130 --> 01:11:42,881 It's okay. 1260 01:11:50,222 --> 01:11:52,141 Ho, ho, ho! 1261 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,897 We are protesting the indoctrination of children. 1262 01:11:58,981 --> 01:12:00,524 - We're elves. - We're elves. 1263 01:12:00,607 --> 01:12:02,460 Yeah, we're Proud Boy elves, and we're protesting 1264 01:12:02,484 --> 01:12:05,821 the outsourcing of our jobs and our boss's. 1265 01:12:05,904 --> 01:12:09,742 This church is infected 1266 01:12:09,825 --> 01:12:11,243 with evil. 1267 01:12:11,326 --> 01:12:13,704 We don't even know what a transgender Santa Claus 1268 01:12:13,787 --> 01:12:15,247 looks like. 1269 01:12:15,331 --> 01:12:19,043 You know, if you Google it, this is what comes up... 1270 01:12:19,126 --> 01:12:21,086 A woman with a beard. 1271 01:12:21,170 --> 01:12:23,464 They're destroying Santa Claus. 1272 01:12:23,547 --> 01:12:27,384 And, really, the Bible that I read says that this is a sin. 1273 01:12:28,844 --> 01:12:30,095 Okay. 1274 01:12:30,179 --> 01:12:32,598 Santa's not in the Bible. 1275 01:12:34,099 --> 01:12:35,809 - Merry Christmas! - Merry Christmas! 1276 01:12:35,893 --> 01:12:38,353 - Hi. Welcome. - Hi. 1277 01:12:38,437 --> 01:12:39,688 - Jolly. - Say "jolly." 1278 01:12:39,772 --> 01:12:43,067 You're propagating division. 1279 01:12:43,150 --> 01:12:45,652 Even worse, you're propagating division 1280 01:12:45,736 --> 01:12:47,362 to children. 1281 01:12:47,446 --> 01:12:48,530 I think it's horrific. 1282 01:12:48,614 --> 01:12:51,617 Say "cookies." all: Cookies. 1283 01:12:51,700 --> 01:12:54,620 That's what the Proud Boys are... they're hate. 1284 01:12:54,703 --> 01:12:56,997 How did they find us? Like, we kept this a secret. 1285 01:12:57,081 --> 01:12:58,457 So I don't know how they got here. 1286 01:12:58,540 --> 01:12:59,792 And a little concerned. 1287 01:12:59,875 --> 01:13:02,961 What do you call a fear of Santa Claus? 1288 01:13:03,045 --> 01:13:04,588 Claus-trophobia. 1289 01:13:04,671 --> 01:13:06,423 - Oh! - Yes, that's a good one. 1290 01:13:06,507 --> 01:13:08,967 - I don't like Claus-trophobia. - We're gonna steal that one. 1291 01:13:09,051 --> 01:13:10,719 Thank you guys for coming out, yeah. 1292 01:13:10,803 --> 01:13:12,197 - Can I hug you or no? - Yeah, for sure. 1293 01:13:12,221 --> 01:13:14,973 Yeah. Both: Merry Christmas. 1294 01:13:15,057 --> 01:13:17,142 All right. Merry Christmas. 1295 01:13:17,226 --> 01:13:18,352 Merry Christmas. 1296 01:13:18,435 --> 01:13:20,896 - Take care. - Yeah. Take care. 1297 01:13:20,979 --> 01:13:22,022 Yes. 1298 01:13:28,904 --> 01:13:32,407 The thing that camp definitely helped me grow in 1299 01:13:32,491 --> 01:13:34,368 was my confidence level. 1300 01:13:34,451 --> 01:13:38,372 So I decided to bleach my beard 1301 01:13:38,455 --> 01:13:40,332 and truly become Santa Claus. 1302 01:13:43,919 --> 01:13:47,464 Not too bad. Not too bad at all. 1303 01:13:51,593 --> 01:13:55,347 - Okay, I may need help, Chris. - Okay. 1304 01:13:57,015 --> 01:14:00,978 - Oh, yeah, that's my boy. - Yeah. 1305 01:14:01,061 --> 01:14:04,356 What do you think a certain person might think? 1306 01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,692 They're gonna hate it. 1307 01:14:06,775 --> 01:14:09,194 Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised 1308 01:14:09,278 --> 01:14:11,363 if you didn't get another letter. 1309 01:14:13,031 --> 01:14:16,869 I love it. They're gonna go, "What the hell?" 1310 01:14:16,952 --> 01:14:22,082 Eh, honestly, they already despise my existence. 1311 01:14:23,625 --> 01:14:25,711 I'm on my property line. 1312 01:14:29,131 --> 01:14:31,508 You don't like it, you move. 1313 01:14:37,848 --> 01:14:39,391 What you think? 1314 01:14:39,474 --> 01:14:42,227 It's so cute. I love it. 1315 01:14:43,937 --> 01:14:47,316 We're here, we're Black, and we're proud of it. 1316 01:14:47,399 --> 01:14:49,610 And we ain't going nowhere. 1317 01:14:58,410 --> 01:15:00,496 I don't know where the fourth... 1318 01:15:00,579 --> 01:15:02,015 - It was just right here. - D-ring is. 1319 01:15:02,039 --> 01:15:04,082 When we heard what happened to Chris, 1320 01:15:04,166 --> 01:15:06,251 my first reaction was that I was really mad. 1321 01:15:06,335 --> 01:15:09,254 And then my second reaction was, "Where can I get one?" 1322 01:15:09,338 --> 01:15:12,257 - Take off. - Caroline, no, no, no, no. 1323 01:15:12,341 --> 01:15:14,927 - I do like this one better. - I do, too. It's bigger. 1324 01:15:15,010 --> 01:15:16,428 - Yeah. - It's better. 1325 01:15:16,511 --> 01:15:17,763 An update to a story 1326 01:15:17,846 --> 01:15:19,431 we shared with you last holiday season. 1327 01:15:19,514 --> 01:15:21,201 Neighbors are putting out their own Black Santa 1328 01:15:21,225 --> 01:15:22,559 to show their support. 1329 01:15:22,643 --> 01:15:24,204 They're calling them solidarity Santas. 1330 01:15:24,228 --> 01:15:26,605 Black Santas popping up everywhere. 1331 01:15:26,688 --> 01:15:28,315 - We need another rope. - No, look, 1332 01:15:28,398 --> 01:15:30,609 I've got one in back and one in front on the same rope. 1333 01:15:30,692 --> 01:15:31,610 On the same rope? 1334 01:15:31,693 --> 01:15:33,362 - Here we go. - Go. 1335 01:15:33,445 --> 01:15:37,950 So I showed her the copy of the letter, and she said... 1336 01:15:38,033 --> 01:15:40,827 Go get the biggest, Blackest Santa you can find. 1337 01:15:42,037 --> 01:15:43,497 I anticipate there'll be 1338 01:15:43,580 --> 01:15:45,290 a lot more going up over the weekend. 1339 01:15:45,374 --> 01:15:47,376 And I think people will go to work Monday morning 1340 01:15:47,459 --> 01:15:50,587 with most of this neighborhood covered in Black Santas. 1341 01:16:05,102 --> 01:16:07,229 Got a cider doughnut? 1342 01:16:07,312 --> 01:16:08,647 Oh, these are still hot. 1343 01:16:08,730 --> 01:16:10,649 I'll put you on top of the good-girl list. 1344 01:16:10,732 --> 01:16:11,817 Thank you. 1345 01:16:16,238 --> 01:16:20,826 To be a good Mrs. Claus, you have to have this talent, 1346 01:16:20,909 --> 01:16:25,247 have you, to be able to look a small child in the eye 1347 01:16:25,330 --> 01:16:26,999 and lie your pants off to 'em, 1348 01:16:27,082 --> 01:16:30,752 you know, take them to that crazy world where reindeer fly 1349 01:16:30,836 --> 01:16:33,297 and Santa goes up and down the chimney. 1350 01:16:35,424 --> 01:16:38,385 When their eyes are sparkling and their mouth is going... 1351 01:16:38,468 --> 01:16:40,846 "Ooh," you know you've got 'em. 1352 01:16:40,929 --> 01:16:42,681 You know that Santa's has got reindeer 1353 01:16:42,764 --> 01:16:44,016 up at the North Pole, right? 1354 01:16:44,099 --> 01:16:45,392 - Both: Yeah. - Well, do you know 1355 01:16:45,475 --> 01:16:49,187 that he also has a couple of unicorns? 1356 01:16:49,271 --> 01:16:51,398 - What? - He's got three. 1357 01:16:51,481 --> 01:16:53,108 And do you know that unicorns... 1358 01:16:53,191 --> 01:16:56,194 They lose their baby horn when they're about six, 1359 01:16:56,278 --> 01:16:58,864 and then they grow their big adult horn. 1360 01:16:58,947 --> 01:17:00,574 Come look at this. 1361 01:17:00,657 --> 01:17:03,702 This is a real unicorn horn. 1362 01:17:03,785 --> 01:17:06,872 If you touch it and make a wish, it may come true. 1363 01:17:08,332 --> 01:17:10,375 Do you have a wish? 1364 01:17:10,459 --> 01:17:12,544 Mrs. Claus, what would you say 1365 01:17:12,627 --> 01:17:14,713 to young girls about speaking up? 1366 01:17:14,796 --> 01:17:16,006 Absolutely. 1367 01:17:16,089 --> 01:17:19,092 You know how boys speak up all the time? 1368 01:17:19,176 --> 01:17:22,596 They're very loud and authoritative. 1369 01:17:22,679 --> 01:17:25,140 Well, young girls need to speak up 1370 01:17:25,223 --> 01:17:26,808 and say what's on their mind. 1371 01:17:26,892 --> 01:17:29,478 So that's why I spoke up to Santa and said, 1372 01:17:29,561 --> 01:17:31,688 "You know, I've been quiet all these years 1373 01:17:31,772 --> 01:17:35,567 "and being the good little wife, but now it's my turn. 1374 01:17:35,650 --> 01:17:39,112 See how you like sitting at home." 1375 01:17:46,203 --> 01:17:47,621 I've done my checklist. 1376 01:17:47,704 --> 01:17:48,955 - Okay. - I got my hat. 1377 01:17:49,039 --> 01:17:50,399 I got my cane. I got my candy cane. 1378 01:17:50,457 --> 01:17:52,334 I also checked with the management 1379 01:17:52,417 --> 01:17:56,588 to make sure that we have two Zambonis... 1380 01:17:56,671 --> 01:17:58,423 - Okay. - One for you, one for me... 1381 01:17:58,507 --> 01:18:00,425 - All right. - The same size. 1382 01:18:00,509 --> 01:18:03,595 As you know, Mrs. Claus, with coming up in the world... 1383 01:18:03,679 --> 01:18:05,222 Is she? Okay. 1384 01:18:05,305 --> 01:18:08,433 You know, Mrs. Claus is not the warm-up act for Santa. 1385 01:18:08,517 --> 01:18:11,561 - You know? - Yes, she is. 1386 01:18:11,645 --> 01:18:15,982 How about this? We all deserve respect, period. 1387 01:18:16,066 --> 01:18:17,275 I'm done. 1388 01:18:19,528 --> 01:18:22,114 Do we know where he went? 1389 01:18:22,197 --> 01:18:23,615 Where did he go? 1390 01:18:23,698 --> 01:18:26,451 - Respect. - We're here to have a good time. 1391 01:18:26,535 --> 01:18:28,286 - Yeah. - Not to piss Santa off, 1392 01:18:28,370 --> 01:18:30,038 'cause Santa's pissed off. 1393 01:18:30,122 --> 01:18:32,541 And you don't want Santa pissed off. 1394 01:18:32,624 --> 01:18:35,127 This shit of equal pay or equal rights... 1395 01:18:35,210 --> 01:18:36,962 You earn your rights in this world. 1396 01:18:37,045 --> 01:18:39,881 I don't care if you're male or female... you earn them. 1397 01:18:39,965 --> 01:18:42,342 Well. 1398 01:18:52,394 --> 01:18:53,687 Santa and Mrs. Claus... 1399 01:18:53,770 --> 01:18:57,732 It's a complicated relationship. 1400 01:18:57,816 --> 01:19:00,485 All Santas don't have a Mrs. Claus. 1401 01:19:00,569 --> 01:19:02,112 So, when I work with them, 1402 01:19:02,195 --> 01:19:04,448 they don't really know what to do with me. 1403 01:19:04,531 --> 01:19:05,574 Ooh. 1404 01:19:07,701 --> 01:19:11,371 Mrs. Claus is getting a little fan base, 1405 01:19:11,455 --> 01:19:13,331 which is very exciting. 1406 01:19:15,041 --> 01:19:18,753 It's pretty clear, Mrs. Claus is getting more respect. 1407 01:19:18,837 --> 01:19:21,006 We're getting more equal pay. 1408 01:19:21,089 --> 01:19:25,427 We're getting equal-size chairs, equal Zambonis. 1409 01:19:28,597 --> 01:19:31,683 All right, get me off the ice. 1410 01:19:31,766 --> 01:19:33,435 We're done. Move on. 1411 01:19:38,648 --> 01:19:40,317 We still have a long way to go, 1412 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,320 but we've come a long way, baby. 1413 01:20:02,464 --> 01:20:05,383 - Does he have long johns on? - Yes. 1414 01:20:05,467 --> 01:20:08,261 We're gonna get you all Santa-fied. 1415 01:20:08,345 --> 01:20:10,388 Look at that belly. 1416 01:20:10,472 --> 01:20:12,057 Can you give me a "ho, ho, ho"? 1417 01:20:12,140 --> 01:20:14,434 Ho, ho, ho! 1418 01:20:16,853 --> 01:20:19,439 Can you see okay and everything? 1419 01:20:20,482 --> 01:20:22,567 Okay, dude. 1420 01:20:22,651 --> 01:20:25,237 All right. You're welcome. 1421 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:26,655 I love you, too, honey. 1422 01:20:26,738 --> 01:20:29,407 Come on. Come stand up. 1423 01:20:29,491 --> 01:20:32,160 - You know what? - I'm really thankful 1424 01:20:32,244 --> 01:20:36,081 that you are thankful for me, okay? 1425 01:20:36,164 --> 01:20:38,083 I think it's going to be a lot of fun 1426 01:20:38,166 --> 01:20:39,501 walking down there. 1427 01:20:39,584 --> 01:20:41,545 It's going to be a lot, lot of, lot of fun. 1428 01:20:41,628 --> 01:20:44,839 - Thank you for coming. - Ready? One, two, three. 1429 01:20:45,924 --> 01:20:47,425 Go. Go, go, go. 1430 01:20:54,474 --> 01:20:57,602 How are you reindeer doing? 1431 01:20:57,686 --> 01:21:00,480 Okay, Fin, we're going around the corner now, 1432 01:21:00,564 --> 01:21:02,941 so you got to steer us the right way. 1433 01:21:03,024 --> 01:21:05,277 Here we go, Santa! 1434 01:21:07,445 --> 01:21:09,072 Yes! 1435 01:21:17,581 --> 01:21:19,332 Ho, ho, ho! 1436 01:21:22,294 --> 01:21:26,256 Santa! Santa! Santa! 1437 01:21:26,339 --> 01:21:27,716 Santa! Santa! 1438 01:21:27,799 --> 01:21:30,468 - It's so beautiful. - Oh, my God, I'm gonna cry. 1439 01:21:30,552 --> 01:21:32,470 It's, like, super emotional. 1440 01:21:32,554 --> 01:21:34,222 I'm just so happy. 1441 01:21:37,058 --> 01:21:38,810 Just all these people out to see him, 1442 01:21:38,893 --> 01:21:42,063 and I just didn't know it was possible. 1443 01:22:00,624 --> 01:22:03,335 Looking good, Santa. 1444 01:22:03,418 --> 01:22:05,920 There were doctors who said he'd never talk or do anything, 1445 01:22:06,004 --> 01:22:07,255 just be a vegetable. 1446 01:22:07,339 --> 01:22:09,257 But I think he's doing pretty good. 1447 01:22:09,341 --> 01:22:11,509 - He's up in the sleigh! - He's flying! 1448 01:22:11,593 --> 01:22:14,679 He's flying in his magical sleigh! 1449 01:22:14,763 --> 01:22:16,723 - Santa! - Look at him. Look at him. 1450 01:22:16,806 --> 01:22:20,977 Look how happy he is. Look how happy he is. 1451 01:22:21,061 --> 01:22:23,647 Oh, my God. 1452 01:22:25,357 --> 01:22:27,359 Whoo-hoo! Santa! Santa! 1453 01:22:27,442 --> 01:22:29,444 Santa! Santa! Santa! 1454 01:22:29,527 --> 01:22:33,239 - Santa Fin, we love you! - Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. 1455 01:22:33,323 --> 01:22:37,410 Santa! Santa! Santa! Santa! 1456 01:22:40,830 --> 01:22:42,957 I'll put it back here. 1457 01:22:45,418 --> 01:22:47,879 Here we go. 1458 01:22:47,962 --> 01:22:49,547 Baby. 1459 01:22:49,631 --> 01:22:53,802 It does not smell good. 1460 01:22:53,885 --> 01:22:57,013 It smells just like a perm. 1461 01:23:01,976 --> 01:23:05,271 After camp, Chris definitely stepped up his game. 1462 01:23:05,355 --> 01:23:07,899 You could see the joy and the excitement. 1463 01:23:07,982 --> 01:23:12,195 The little kid inside of him was having a field day. 1464 01:23:13,988 --> 01:23:18,201 In a few hours, it's my first huge Santa gig. 1465 01:23:18,284 --> 01:23:19,994 Putting in a little bit of conditioner 1466 01:23:20,078 --> 01:23:22,747 to get this prime time ready. 1467 01:23:24,249 --> 01:23:27,085 And it was just comical 'cause it's watching 1468 01:23:27,168 --> 01:23:30,672 your 30-something-year-old husband now desire 1469 01:23:30,755 --> 01:23:34,509 to look like an older man. 1470 01:23:36,553 --> 01:23:39,806 My daughter is super proud of me for becoming Santa. 1471 01:23:39,889 --> 01:23:43,059 She tells all her friends. 1472 01:23:43,143 --> 01:23:46,479 She tells anybody, "My daddy's Santa." 1473 01:23:46,563 --> 01:23:49,274 Daddy. 1474 01:23:49,357 --> 01:23:52,152 This is my daddy. 1475 01:23:52,235 --> 01:23:55,780 It can't help but make you feel just huge. 1476 01:23:57,365 --> 01:24:00,660 Ah. Daddy fell under the tree. 1477 01:24:15,717 --> 01:24:19,345 I'm proud of the man that he has become. 1478 01:24:19,429 --> 01:24:22,056 His father, my mother, his grandfather, 1479 01:24:22,140 --> 01:24:23,850 all the people that have gone on, 1480 01:24:23,933 --> 01:24:26,060 they would be real proud of him. 1481 01:24:26,144 --> 01:24:27,729 - Is it? - Which is... 1482 01:24:29,272 --> 01:24:31,524 That's why you're Super Santa with the cape. 1483 01:24:31,608 --> 01:24:33,735 - All right, get ready. - Kids are coming. 1484 01:24:33,818 --> 01:24:35,695 Your first customers. 1485 01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,532 - Hey! - No. No, no, no! 1486 01:24:39,616 --> 01:24:43,495 No, it's okay. 1487 01:24:43,578 --> 01:24:46,039 Oh, come on, Lennox. 1488 01:24:46,122 --> 01:24:48,792 This will be a souvenir for Grandma. 1489 01:24:48,875 --> 01:24:51,503 Got to warm up. It's fine. 1490 01:24:54,923 --> 01:24:58,134 I have no idea how this is gonna turn out. 1491 01:24:58,218 --> 01:25:02,305 But I know that I have to do it. 1492 01:25:02,931 --> 01:25:05,350 People were 1493 01:25:05,433 --> 01:25:07,477 not necessarily enthusiastic about him coming, 1494 01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,854 I guess, is the best way to put it. 1495 01:25:09,938 --> 01:25:12,190 People were, like, genuinely confused, like, 1496 01:25:12,273 --> 01:25:14,526 "Why would you have a Black Santa? 1497 01:25:14,609 --> 01:25:17,529 Why would you... He's supposed to be white." 1498 01:25:19,989 --> 01:25:22,200 I can assume that probably some people didn't show up 1499 01:25:22,283 --> 01:25:24,702 because there was a Black Santa. 1500 01:25:24,786 --> 01:25:26,746 And 1501 01:25:26,830 --> 01:25:30,208 it's a little unfair, but it is how it is. 1502 01:25:30,291 --> 01:25:33,503 Maybe I don't look like every other Santa, 1503 01:25:33,586 --> 01:25:35,380 but I don't want to. 1504 01:25:41,427 --> 01:25:44,222 We came out today to meet Black Santa. 1505 01:25:44,305 --> 01:25:46,182 How are you doing? 1506 01:25:46,266 --> 01:25:48,184 Aw, thank you. 1507 01:25:48,268 --> 01:25:51,229 He may not understand it right now, but one day he will. 1508 01:25:51,312 --> 01:25:54,023 So I want him to experience that. 1509 01:25:57,068 --> 01:25:59,696 I just think it'll be a good memory for her, 1510 01:25:59,779 --> 01:26:02,991 see that her mom, like, really took the time out 1511 01:26:03,074 --> 01:26:05,910 to find a Black Santa. 1512 01:26:05,994 --> 01:26:07,412 Aw! 1513 01:26:07,495 --> 01:26:09,205 So precious. 1514 01:26:09,289 --> 01:26:12,166 She loves taking pictures, too. 1515 01:26:12,250 --> 01:26:13,334 Hey. 1516 01:26:14,794 --> 01:26:17,171 Hey, look at Grandma. 1517 01:26:21,009 --> 01:26:23,094 - I've... - both: Never seen a Black Santa. 1518 01:26:23,177 --> 01:26:24,971 - Well, I'm here. - Hey. 1519 01:26:25,054 --> 01:26:27,056 I just know I'm not on that naughty list, 1520 01:26:27,140 --> 01:26:29,684 - so that's all that matters. - Hi, Santa! 1521 01:26:29,767 --> 01:26:30,810 Hey. 1522 01:26:32,812 --> 01:26:36,232 Well, I mean, I hadn't either until I became Santa. 1523 01:26:36,316 --> 01:26:39,193 - All right, ho, ho to you. - Bro, ho, ho. 1524 01:26:39,277 --> 01:26:40,486 - Bro, ho, ho. - Yes. 1525 01:26:40,570 --> 01:26:42,363 - All right! - Bro, ho, ho. 1526 01:26:46,034 --> 01:26:50,079 When I was little, Santa was white. 1527 01:26:50,163 --> 01:26:53,249 It was whatever someone else decided Santa to be. 1528 01:26:53,333 --> 01:26:56,461 I heard that there was gonna be a Black Santa. 1529 01:26:56,544 --> 01:27:00,214 I decided, "We got to come here and see Black Santa." 1530 01:27:00,298 --> 01:27:01,841 - Hey. - Oh. Hey. 1531 01:27:01,925 --> 01:27:04,469 It's important that my grandson sees 1532 01:27:04,552 --> 01:27:07,555 that Santa can be someone that's African American. 1533 01:27:09,766 --> 01:27:10,951 There were families that traveled 1534 01:27:10,975 --> 01:27:13,770 over 300 miles to be here. 1535 01:27:13,853 --> 01:27:15,271 That was very rewarding. 1536 01:27:15,355 --> 01:27:16,856 Thank you so much. 1537 01:27:19,192 --> 01:27:23,821 But it definitely also gave me a bit of a sense of sadness 1538 01:27:23,905 --> 01:27:27,075 that there are not Black Santas closer to them. 1539 01:27:38,544 --> 01:27:41,005 Tonight I'll be doing what's called a "sneak and peek." 1540 01:27:41,089 --> 01:27:43,299 It's a Christmas Eve visit. 1541 01:27:43,383 --> 01:27:46,886 And Santa sneaks into the house, 1542 01:27:46,970 --> 01:27:48,972 the parents wake the children up, 1543 01:27:49,055 --> 01:27:52,308 and they get to come down and watch Santa 1544 01:27:52,392 --> 01:27:55,478 as he delivers the presents. 1545 01:28:03,653 --> 01:28:07,699 When I have a visit with a child 1546 01:28:07,782 --> 01:28:10,910 I want them to continue to believe in Santa. 1547 01:28:29,303 --> 01:28:31,681 I hear bells. 1548 01:28:31,764 --> 01:28:33,725 Who else can hear a bell? 1549 01:28:43,735 --> 01:28:45,361 Santa. 1550 01:28:50,867 --> 01:28:53,536 This is gonna be your new home. 1551 01:28:53,619 --> 01:28:57,248 It's not as cold here as the North Pole, but... 1552 01:28:57,331 --> 01:28:59,083 Mmm. 1553 01:28:59,167 --> 01:29:02,378 Chocolate chip, my favorite. 1554 01:29:07,133 --> 01:29:11,262 I think there's a creature stirring. 1555 01:29:17,101 --> 01:29:20,772 I think Santas, when they pass away... 1556 01:29:22,440 --> 01:29:25,401 They're... they're still here... 1557 01:29:25,485 --> 01:29:28,112 Three, two, one, cheese. 1558 01:29:28,196 --> 01:29:31,282 Because the memories that families have of them... 1559 01:29:31,365 --> 01:29:34,077 Say "cookies." all: Cookies. 1560 01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,829 Children have of them, 1561 01:29:36,913 --> 01:29:38,623 their friends have of them 1562 01:29:38,706 --> 01:29:41,459 are still there, and they continue to grow every year. 1563 01:29:41,542 --> 01:29:44,128 Santa! Santa! Santa! 1564 01:29:44,212 --> 01:29:47,423 I'm so proud of what the new Clauses have accomplished. 1565 01:29:47,507 --> 01:29:49,050 Ho, ho, ho, ho! 1566 01:29:49,133 --> 01:29:51,677 There's still a lot of work to be done 1567 01:29:51,761 --> 01:29:55,932 and in opening the door for more diversity. 1568 01:29:56,015 --> 01:29:59,811 But this year I think we made a lot of progress. 1569 01:30:03,272 --> 01:30:05,942 - What do you see over there? - Santa! 1570 01:30:06,025 --> 01:30:07,777 - Oh, my gosh. - Is he really brown? 1571 01:30:07,860 --> 01:30:10,905 Yeah. 1572 01:30:10,988 --> 01:30:14,659 If whoever wrote that letter truly has a problem 1573 01:30:14,742 --> 01:30:16,953 with Black Santas, 1574 01:30:17,036 --> 01:30:19,539 they're really gonna hate this. 115557

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