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I got it. I got it.
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It doesn't bend well,
that's all.
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The right knee is the worst one.
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There you go.
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You skinny guys
will have to sit at the end.
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Dick, you've been doing this
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probably longer than any of us.
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I mean, you must have
some stories about...
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Oh, sure.
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This little boy was waiting...
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In line.
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And he was just jumping,
and he held his hands,
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and he was smiling
like crazy, you know?
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And, like, he just could
not wait to get to see Santa.
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And so, finally, it's his turn.
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And I says,
"And so how are you?"
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And he says, "I pooped!"
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So I've got one.
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A lot of times they'll say,
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"All right, if you're the real
Santa, what's my name?"
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Oh, I got that one.
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And usually what I say is,
"Listen, I only know
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"the names of the children
on the nice list.
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I don't know your name."
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So I got a call to book a Santa.
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And she said, "Is he white?"
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And I was like,
"Well, yeah, I mean
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all the Santas
I have are white."
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So I'm thinking about trying
to bring on people
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who can...
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So you can offer Santas
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who aren't kind of
the cookie cutter,
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white, 65 years old, fat.
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Now, some clients will disagree
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because they have
a very specific thing
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they want in their Santa.
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The way I explained it one time
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when I got challenged on it was,
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well, I started with
the history of Santa, okay?
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Santa originated
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in the European continent,
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and the predominant
population was white.
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So Santa would be white.
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- Actually...
- That's wrong.
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Jesus Christ and St. Nicholas
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would have been brown,
not white.
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I'm talking about trying
to explain
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to a four-year-old child
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why she can't have
a Black Santa.
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It doesn't matter.
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It just doesn't matter
whether they're gay,
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they're white,
they're Jewish, they're Black.
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Being the oldest member
of this group,
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for my generation, at first,
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this was a little difficult
to accept.
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But God created no junk.
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You know?
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So it doesn't matter.
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Oh, about ten years ago,
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we created
the New England Santa Society.
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And it's open for Santas
of all types,
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Mrs. Clauses, elves,
and other holiday performers.
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We have a lot
of really experienced Santas.
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I mean, we have Santas who have
been doing it 30, 40, 50 years.
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So we created a school,
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which is now called Santa Camp.
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It's starting to become
more visible
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and we're starting to do
much more promotion of it.
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So this is one of
the most popular top reasons
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to come to Santa Camp.
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We have some photos.
We have some videos.
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We do have our kazoo band.
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One of the things
I think really sets
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our Santa school apart
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is that we have been trying
to reach out
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to more and more types of Santas
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and Santas
from different backgrounds,
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just
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people who are different.
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But I think sometimes
the issue we run into
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is that people just have a very
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specific idea of what Santa
should look like.
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And I think a lot of times,
it's their childhood Santa,
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the one they remember as kids.
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Does Santa need to have a look?
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Well, he's certainly got to look
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something like Santa Claus.
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It must be a red suit,
black belt, beard.
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And it's much better
if they can pull it, okay?
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You can get, like, a heat iron,
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and you just kind of curl it
and roll it under.
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The belly can be padded.
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Mine is real. I can't hide that.
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I think people definitely
have an expectation
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of how Santa should look.
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A few years ago, I understand
that they did hire
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a Black Santa
at the Mall of America.
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And apparently
it didn't go so well,
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and there was a lot
of pushback about it,
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and not everybody
was thrilled with the idea.
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A Black Santa Claus
at the Mall of America,
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the country's largest mall,
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is causing a torrent
of hateful, racist comments.
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With some people online
even calling for a boycott.
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There was some talk
on the Internet,
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not from other Santas.
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Unfortunately, in America,
we're not quite at the stage
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where everybody can be accepted
as Santa Claus.
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I just don't know
why it's necessary.
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I don't understand
why people feel
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they need a Black Santa Claus.
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Changing the race
is cultural appropriation.
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For all you kids watching
at home, Santa just is white.
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How do you just revise it,
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you know, in the middle
of the legacy of the story
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and change Santa
from white to Black?
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I mean, you can't.
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- This is Rudy.
- This is our baby.
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Look at how big he's grown.
See those antlers?
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Santa has reindeer
all over the world,
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in case he should have
a problem with the Elite Eight
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on his special trips.
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You all pooped and tuckered.
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Oh, there you go.
You gonna take a little nap?
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Santa likes to take a nap
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in the afternoon, too,
sometimes, you know?
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My role as Mrs. Claus
started in 2006.
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I had just retired.
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Yeah, I spent 40
years working in engineering,
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which was pretty much
a male-dominated field.
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So, yeah, so when I make up for
the character as Mrs. Claus...
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She ain't being
disrespected, you know?
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It's like, I am not
the warm-up act for Santa.
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I come in on his arm.
I am his wife.
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I am not an elf
doing all those things
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that I think the elves do.
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Let's see.
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Santa loves Mrs. Claus.
Mrs. Claus loves Santa.
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There's no doubt about that.
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But as the world has changed,
so has Mrs. Claus.
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We've come a long way, baby.
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In a few weeks, I'm gonna be up
in Manchester, New Hampshire,
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at the Santa Camp.
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And I'm gonna be doing a program
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with a couple other Santas
and Mrs. Clauses
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about issues with Mrs. Claus.
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I think everybody wants to be
treated fairly and equally,
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and, you know,
that's just the way it is.
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But how pushy are you gonna be
about it, you know?
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And it's like, "I'm pushy."
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- Merry Christmas!
- Hi.
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- Yo, Santa!
- Hey, guys. How are you?
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- Yeah!
- Good to see you.
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- Say cookies!
- Cookies!
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So today there's gonna be
a lot of Santas
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running around the park.
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Once we're away from Christmas,
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we meet pretty much
every month as a group.
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Hey, Santa.
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Well, hello, there, young man.
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We like to dress up,
have different outfits.
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This is our summer Santa style.
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That shit's going deep!
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Hi!
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Okay.
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I thought that
was a smile coming.
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Hey, come on over.
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Are you gonna get a picture,
or you just want to chat?
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- Both!
- All right.
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Let's get
a good background here.
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We'll get
this banana background.
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A real live Santa Claus.
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You have the new kicks.
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No! These were made by an elf.
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So Santa was, like,
definitely my biggest idol.
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That's why I'm, like,
kind of shocked right now.
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He was like, my hero,
definitely.
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Have you always seen Santa
as being white?
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Yes. I wish there was, like,
a variety of Santas
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that are willing to come
in different colors
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to let people know
that they could come
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in any different shape
and form, you know?
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But that's not how the world,
like, is right now, so...
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- But it could change.
- Yeah.
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- Yeah, things are changing.
- Hopefully.
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You just got to find 'em.
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Yeah.
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Jolly.
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Santa Claus is just an idea.
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And the fact that a Black child
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wants to have a Black Santa,
somebody who looks like them,
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what's the problem?
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I mean
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that's it.
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It's Santa.
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I mean...
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The look in the kids' eyes
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when they meet you, and...
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That's what it's about.
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Excuse me.
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Here in New Hampshire,
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we don't have
huge minority populations,
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so we have been reaching out
to people outside New England.
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"Black Santa Claus."
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And there's a Santa named Chris.
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He's Black.
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And he has a heck
of a story to tell.
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A North Little Rock man's
Facebook post is going viral
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after showing a letter
he received in the mail.
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He claims that he was
the target of a racist note...
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Attacking him
for not having a white Santa.
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I have never had any problems
out of anybody.
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All of a sudden, we got
a problem with Black Santa.
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But this man
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he ain't coming down.
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We moved to North Little Rock
specifically for our daughter.
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We wanted to offer her
a great education
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from the very beginning.
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I'm drawing Santa.
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No, I'm gonna do
a little bit of brown.
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He's kind of chocolaty.
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But, you know,
we're Black people
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in a predominantly
white neighborhood.
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- That is the Karen right there.
- Yes.
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- She making blocks.
- Yeah, she is.
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- And she's calling.
- Calling who?
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- The police, I guess.
- Psycho.
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When you're walking by yourself,
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that's why I definitely feel
the need
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that you need to be
in bright clothing.
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Like, I prefer
that your cell phone case
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be a bright, obnoxious color
so someone can obviously tell
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that it is a cell phone
and not a gun.
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Representation is a big thing
for our family.
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And I have a ten-foot-tall
inflatable Black Santa.
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One day I checked the mail,
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and there was a letter in there.
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I opened it. I got mad.
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I was definitely angry.
In fact, I was livid.
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This is the type of people
that I live around.
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This is the type of people
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that I have to raise
my daughter around.
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These are the type of people
that I have to worry about.
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This is what I got.
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- Can I ask you to read it?
- I really don't want to.
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Like, it just...
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Yeah.
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Because one of the things...
I start stuttering,
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and that makes me
even more frustrated.
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And so that's why I generally
don't read it out loud.
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So, yeah.
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It was 100% an attack
on who I am as a person.
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We, of course, thought,
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"Did we pick the right
neighborhood to live in?
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And should we be
looking to move?"
256
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That's what we live
next door to.
257
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A stupid Confederate flag.
258
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It's the clear
and present danger for us.
259
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I needed to channel the anger
260
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into something
that wasn't negative.
261
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So I went and rented
a Santa costume
262
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and played Santa Claus
for my daughter.
263
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Down and across.
264
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I want to be able to be
Black Santa
265
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for other families.
266
00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,823
So I'm gonna be going
up to New Hampshire
267
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to a Santa camp
268
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to learn all the ins and outs
of being Santa.
269
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This is what I created.
270
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How long have you been a Santa?
271
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I've been a Santa
since I was 16 years old.
272
00:16:50,551 --> 00:16:53,762
I'm 69 years old
in human years now.
273
00:16:53,846 --> 00:16:55,723
So 53 years.
274
00:16:55,806 --> 00:16:58,559
I have been to Santa Camp
three years in a row.
275
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It helps me connect
with other like-minded people.
276
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You learn techniques.
277
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And you learn the business
278
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'cause the business
of Santa Claus is very big.
279
00:17:11,196 --> 00:17:13,449
I could easily walk away
280
00:17:13,532 --> 00:17:16,201
with $2,000 a night.
281
00:17:16,285 --> 00:17:18,704
There's a particular Santa
that comes from Rhode Island.
282
00:17:18,787 --> 00:17:22,040
He's known
as Santa to the Stars.
283
00:17:22,124 --> 00:17:23,917
I mean, he has a house in Italy.
284
00:17:24,001 --> 00:17:25,794
I mean, he has a house
in California,
285
00:17:25,878 --> 00:17:27,629
and he drives brand-new cars.
286
00:17:27,713 --> 00:17:29,173
I think there's approximately
287
00:17:29,256 --> 00:17:32,134
5,000 to 6,000
professional Santas.
288
00:17:32,217 --> 00:17:36,180
And you know the whole reason
of having professional Santas
289
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is to improve, like a guild.
290
00:17:38,390 --> 00:17:41,477
You meet people and learn
from their experiences.
291
00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,103
It's like a big family.
292
00:17:43,187 --> 00:17:45,647
Santa Society is
like a brotherhood.
293
00:17:45,731 --> 00:17:49,318
We quite often call ourselves
"The Brothers in Red."
294
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Into your hands, oh, God,
295
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we commend Your servant
Dick Marshall.
296
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It doesn't matter.
297
00:18:13,801 --> 00:18:17,096
God created no junk.
298
00:18:20,182 --> 00:18:23,060
All that he did,
Dick offered love
299
00:18:23,143 --> 00:18:25,229
and compassion and faith
300
00:18:25,312 --> 00:18:29,691
shared through joy
and a bit of hope and magic.
301
00:18:29,775 --> 00:18:32,528
On behalf
of Dick Marshall's family,
302
00:18:32,611 --> 00:18:34,738
you are welcomed here.
303
00:18:34,822 --> 00:18:38,659
All are welcomed here
304
00:18:38,742 --> 00:18:41,161
because as Dick
so amply enjoyed saying...
305
00:18:41,245 --> 00:18:42,871
Perfect. Thanks.
306
00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:46,041
That "God don't make no junk."
307
00:18:48,794 --> 00:18:50,838
Look at this one
with the wig flying back.
308
00:18:50,921 --> 00:18:53,549
Dick looks like
he's terrified, you know.
309
00:18:53,632 --> 00:18:55,551
In that one. Both: Yep.
310
00:18:57,511 --> 00:19:00,639
- It was just so sudden.
- It was heartbreaking.
311
00:19:00,722 --> 00:19:04,309
Yeah. He was very supportive
of the move now
312
00:19:04,393 --> 00:19:09,314
to try to expand the diversity
of the Santa community
313
00:19:09,398 --> 00:19:12,609
and trying to brainstorm,
314
00:19:12,693 --> 00:19:15,195
like, how do we reach out,
how do we find those people?
315
00:19:15,279 --> 00:19:17,656
Well, you can't put an ad
in the paper, say,
316
00:19:17,739 --> 00:19:21,577
"Any dwarfs out there
that want to be Santa Claus,
317
00:19:21,660 --> 00:19:23,745
"particularly if you're Jewish
318
00:19:23,829 --> 00:19:26,999
and of a different color."
319
00:19:27,082 --> 00:19:29,835
There's no way for us
to ask for that
320
00:19:29,918 --> 00:19:33,130
that I'm aware of
without offending.
321
00:19:33,213 --> 00:19:36,258
There is that
322
00:19:36,341 --> 00:19:39,970
conservatism sometimes in the
Santa community
323
00:19:40,053 --> 00:19:42,264
that's very closed.
324
00:19:42,347 --> 00:19:45,934
But I think that was
the nice thing with Dick,
325
00:19:46,018 --> 00:19:51,023
is that it didn't matter
what you look like.
326
00:19:52,316 --> 00:19:54,860
Being Santa is in the heart.
327
00:20:14,296 --> 00:20:15,881
All right. Whoa!
328
00:20:18,383 --> 00:20:19,676
Stay.
329
00:20:24,097 --> 00:20:28,143
How's this one?
Oh, this one's good.
330
00:20:28,226 --> 00:20:31,605
- There he is.
- Ho, ho, ho!
331
00:20:31,688 --> 00:20:34,399
- Hi.
- It's nice to meet you.
332
00:20:34,483 --> 00:20:35,901
Now, I have a question.
333
00:20:35,984 --> 00:20:39,738
Is there anything
that we need to do or
334
00:20:39,821 --> 00:20:43,408
I mean, have you ever had
a nonspeaking person there
335
00:20:43,492 --> 00:20:45,494
at Santa Camp
before or anything?
336
00:20:45,577 --> 00:20:48,914
- This will be the first.
- Oh, okay.
337
00:20:48,997 --> 00:20:50,707
'Cause it's a little bit...
338
00:20:50,791 --> 00:20:54,962
You know, going into a new
situation with lots of people
339
00:20:55,045 --> 00:20:56,588
can be a little daunting.
340
00:20:56,672 --> 00:21:00,968
Because Fin Barre's
a Santa with spin a bifida,
341
00:21:01,051 --> 00:21:04,513
and I don't know
if that's a situation...
342
00:21:04,596 --> 00:21:06,640
Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
343
00:21:06,723 --> 00:21:09,202
Doesn't have any problem with
the "ho, ho, ho" part, however.
344
00:21:09,226 --> 00:21:12,020
Yeah. That's right.
345
00:21:13,397 --> 00:21:16,066
In here is
346
00:21:16,149 --> 00:21:18,276
the lair of Santa Fin.
347
00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:19,611
And there he is.
348
00:21:21,446 --> 00:21:24,199
I love everything about Santa.
349
00:21:24,282 --> 00:21:26,702
Really? I couldn't tell.
350
00:21:26,785 --> 00:21:30,664
What's that device
that you're holding?
351
00:21:30,747 --> 00:21:32,457
My iPad.
352
00:21:32,541 --> 00:21:35,252
So Fin is what's called
a multimodal communicator,
353
00:21:35,335 --> 00:21:39,214
meaning he uses his hands,
his body, his iPad,
354
00:21:39,298 --> 00:21:42,718
and his voice to communicate.
355
00:21:42,801 --> 00:21:45,512
Can it ever be hard
to communicate?
356
00:21:47,347 --> 00:21:48,598
Yes.
357
00:21:48,682 --> 00:21:53,061
Except when he has
the big red suit on.
358
00:21:53,145 --> 00:21:56,148
The magic just... Clicks.
359
00:21:57,899 --> 00:22:00,944
What's the best thing
about being Santa?
360
00:22:06,783 --> 00:22:08,785
I fly around in a sleigh.
361
00:22:08,869 --> 00:22:12,080
- Ho, ho, ho, ho.
- Your sleigh.
362
00:22:12,164 --> 00:22:16,418
Anytime anyone sees anything
that says "ho, ho, ho" on it,
363
00:22:16,501 --> 00:22:18,920
it ends up in this room somehow.
364
00:22:19,004 --> 00:22:22,591
That's a gift. That's a gift.
That's a gift. That's a gift.
365
00:22:22,674 --> 00:22:25,093
And he's got that whole
snow-globe thing
366
00:22:25,177 --> 00:22:27,429
going on here, too.
367
00:22:28,805 --> 00:22:32,309
So we need to do all sorts
of updates
368
00:22:32,392 --> 00:22:33,810
on the Santa Fin website.
369
00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:36,730
Okay. And maybe
we might have some giveaway.
370
00:22:36,813 --> 00:22:38,774
I'm not quite sure
what that would be.
371
00:22:38,857 --> 00:22:40,984
- T-shirts.
- T-shirts.
372
00:22:41,068 --> 00:22:42,778
Candy.
373
00:22:42,861 --> 00:22:45,947
I want my elves
to give out stuffed bears.
374
00:22:46,031 --> 00:22:48,950
- You want to do that?
- Cool.
375
00:22:49,034 --> 00:22:53,163
So, on the homepage, it says,
"It all started with a dream,
376
00:22:53,246 --> 00:22:56,416
"a dream to follow his passion
and be a real Santa,
377
00:22:56,500 --> 00:23:00,212
regardless of any obstacle
that may have been in his way."
378
00:23:02,089 --> 00:23:04,674
What are some
of those obstacles?
379
00:23:04,758 --> 00:23:07,469
Well, what's happened a lot
in the past
380
00:23:07,552 --> 00:23:09,471
when we've reached out
to places,
381
00:23:09,554 --> 00:23:11,973
they're like,
"Yeah, a special... What?
382
00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:13,391
"No. What?
383
00:23:13,475 --> 00:23:16,770
No, we couldn't have
a special-needs Santa."
384
00:23:16,853 --> 00:23:20,774
And, I mean, I've had people
that have said to me, you know,
385
00:23:20,857 --> 00:23:22,651
"Can I catch what he has?"
It's like...
386
00:23:22,734 --> 00:23:24,236
- What?
- "I don't know,
387
00:23:24,319 --> 00:23:26,655
but you caught an awful lot
of stupid, like"...
388
00:23:26,738 --> 00:23:27,948
Yeah, you caught stupid.
389
00:23:28,031 --> 00:23:30,659
Fin, how did that make you feel?
390
00:23:30,742 --> 00:23:32,744
- Sad.
- Sad? Yeah.
391
00:23:32,828 --> 00:23:36,039
- Sad.
- Yeah, it's super painful.
392
00:23:37,290 --> 00:23:39,376
I don't know, man.
393
00:23:41,253 --> 00:23:43,839
He's typing something.
394
00:23:43,922 --> 00:23:45,423
Go ahead, honey.
395
00:23:47,008 --> 00:23:51,012
I want to be a Santa
in a December parade.
396
00:23:51,096 --> 00:23:52,264
Okay.
397
00:23:52,347 --> 00:23:54,141
What is it about being
in a parade
398
00:23:54,224 --> 00:23:56,518
that's, like,
so important to you?
399
00:23:56,601 --> 00:24:01,314
I want to show everyone
that I am the real Santa.
400
00:24:02,357 --> 00:24:06,027
- It's his dream, so...
- Yes.
401
00:24:11,158 --> 00:24:13,618
All right, so...
402
00:24:13,702 --> 00:24:15,495
Hi there, Kay. This is Suki.
403
00:24:15,579 --> 00:24:20,542
I had texted you about a month
or so ago about the parade.
404
00:24:20,625 --> 00:24:22,294
- Hello.
- I'm calling.
405
00:24:22,377 --> 00:24:26,381
I know it's August, but
I've got a kind of wild idea.
406
00:24:26,464 --> 00:24:30,719
- Well, maybe.
- I don't know who...
407
00:24:30,802 --> 00:24:33,930
Oh, no, I lost him.
408
00:24:34,014 --> 00:24:35,015
Unreal.
409
00:24:43,315 --> 00:24:45,483
So we have been
reaching out to Santas
410
00:24:45,567 --> 00:24:47,319
of different backgrounds...
411
00:24:48,820 --> 00:24:51,364
Like this Santa named Levi.
412
00:24:51,448 --> 00:24:52,866
He's trans.
413
00:24:52,949 --> 00:24:54,409
Ho, ho, ho.
414
00:24:54,492 --> 00:24:57,579
Santa Levi,
aka Trans Santa here.
415
00:24:57,662 --> 00:25:00,749
Actually, he looks
pretty good as a Santa.
416
00:25:05,670 --> 00:25:08,340
That's what we're looking for.
417
00:25:16,973 --> 00:25:21,811
We literally went to Target
and bought a Santa onesie.
418
00:25:23,396 --> 00:25:25,982
Look how cute we are.
419
00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:27,901
Look at Levi with the babies.
420
00:25:27,984 --> 00:25:30,445
Most of the kids cried.
421
00:25:30,528 --> 00:25:32,906
I think the night before
and that morning,
422
00:25:32,989 --> 00:25:35,659
I, like, practiced ho-ho-ho-ing
423
00:25:35,742 --> 00:25:37,702
'cause that was, like, really
424
00:25:37,786 --> 00:25:40,288
I was like, oh, wait.
I have to like,
425
00:25:40,372 --> 00:25:42,499
talk to people in a Santa-y,
426
00:25:42,582 --> 00:25:46,461
like, boisterous like,
"ho, ho, ho," right?
427
00:25:46,544 --> 00:25:48,064
'Cause, you know, it takes
a while for your voice
428
00:25:48,088 --> 00:25:49,965
to change when you're taking
testosterone.
429
00:25:50,048 --> 00:25:52,592
But in a Santa suit,
everybody likes you,
430
00:25:52,676 --> 00:25:54,511
so it's fine.
431
00:25:58,431 --> 00:26:00,016
- We met online.
- Yeah.
432
00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:02,644
I was fresh
out of a relationship.
433
00:26:02,727 --> 00:26:04,854
He was newish to Chicago.
434
00:26:04,938 --> 00:26:06,731
Can I talk about you
for a second?
435
00:26:06,815 --> 00:26:08,149
- Yeah.
- When we met,
436
00:26:08,233 --> 00:26:10,902
Levi knew that he was a boy
437
00:26:10,986 --> 00:26:13,613
but had no desire
to ever transition.
438
00:26:13,697 --> 00:26:16,491
I just didn't want to be
an old white guy
439
00:26:16,574 --> 00:26:21,246
having privilege and not
recognizing privilege and
440
00:26:21,329 --> 00:26:23,832
I don't want to be that.
441
00:26:23,915 --> 00:26:25,208
I like being other.
442
00:26:25,292 --> 00:26:27,502
And part of that is being
Trans Santa
443
00:26:27,585 --> 00:26:31,339
and being, like,
a super queer fat Mrs. Claus...
444
00:26:31,423 --> 00:26:33,967
And killing it.
445
00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:35,218
Check that out.
446
00:26:35,302 --> 00:26:36,678
- Oh, boo.
- Oh!
447
00:26:36,761 --> 00:26:38,680
- Still have zero, by the way.
- Oh, I'm losing.
448
00:26:38,763 --> 00:26:41,349
When Heidi found out
there was a Santa Camp,
449
00:26:41,433 --> 00:26:44,060
she immediately was like,
"Yeah, we're going."
450
00:26:44,144 --> 00:26:45,437
And I was like, "Why?"
451
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,605
What is not appealing
about Santa Camp?
452
00:26:47,689 --> 00:26:50,150
I mean, come on!
That sounds amazing.
453
00:26:50,233 --> 00:26:51,860
'Cause to me, I think like,
454
00:26:51,943 --> 00:26:56,239
Santa in, like, big armchairs
that are cozy, right?
455
00:26:56,323 --> 00:26:59,534
So that's what I visualized.
456
00:26:59,617 --> 00:27:01,244
Look at all that wood paneling.
457
00:27:01,328 --> 00:27:04,205
Yeah. And a lot of red.
458
00:27:04,289 --> 00:27:06,374
- Oh.
- Oh.
459
00:27:06,458 --> 00:27:08,418
They're all white.
460
00:27:08,501 --> 00:27:10,295
Are they all white?
461
00:27:10,378 --> 00:27:11,921
I mean
462
00:27:12,005 --> 00:27:15,342
at a first visual capture,
they appear to be all white.
463
00:27:15,425 --> 00:27:16,468
It's true.
464
00:27:18,386 --> 00:27:20,930
Are you still
as excited to go as you were?
465
00:27:21,014 --> 00:27:24,559
You okay?
466
00:27:24,642 --> 00:27:26,394
Like, I genuinely want to go
467
00:27:26,478 --> 00:27:29,856
and learn
how to be a better Santa.
468
00:27:29,939 --> 00:27:33,818
Hope I'm accepted
by the other Santas.
469
00:27:33,902 --> 00:27:35,612
Fuck 'em if you're not, babe.
470
00:27:35,695 --> 00:27:38,073
- It's true, but...
- Like, come on.
471
00:27:40,367 --> 00:27:43,244
People need to see themselves
in role models.
472
00:27:43,328 --> 00:27:45,580
For sure.
473
00:27:45,663 --> 00:27:48,375
Like, if I saw
a trans Santa when I was a kid
474
00:27:48,458 --> 00:27:49,918
and I was like
475
00:27:50,001 --> 00:27:53,463
you know, when I was a kid,
I didn't really know,
476
00:27:53,546 --> 00:27:55,340
like, what trans was.
477
00:27:57,550 --> 00:28:01,388
It would be... comforting.
I don't know.
478
00:28:01,471 --> 00:28:04,808
- Empowering.
- Definitely empowering.
479
00:28:07,268 --> 00:28:09,521
Yeah.
480
00:28:09,604 --> 00:28:12,273
Now I'm starting to get, like,
choked up a little bit.
481
00:28:12,357 --> 00:28:14,359
- I can tell.
- I don't know.
482
00:28:18,071 --> 00:28:20,532
What are you thinking?
483
00:28:26,788 --> 00:28:30,375
Sorry.
484
00:28:30,458 --> 00:28:32,627
It would have made
a difference for you.
485
00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:35,505
Yeah.
486
00:28:35,588 --> 00:28:37,549
Yeah.
487
00:28:50,270 --> 00:28:52,730
The preparations have begun.
488
00:28:52,814 --> 00:28:54,023
Here we go.
489
00:28:54,107 --> 00:28:56,860
Starting with the fat suit.
490
00:28:56,943 --> 00:28:59,821
So how are you feeling?
491
00:28:59,904 --> 00:29:02,907
I am excited for Santa Camp.
492
00:29:02,991 --> 00:29:05,994
Oops. Now it's just
totally coming off.
493
00:29:06,077 --> 00:29:08,746
This needs to get fixed as well.
494
00:29:08,830 --> 00:29:11,791
You gonna wear this
at Santa Camp?
495
00:29:11,875 --> 00:29:13,668
Cool. It's gonna be perfect.
496
00:29:13,751 --> 00:29:15,378
Fin is asking every day,
497
00:29:15,462 --> 00:29:17,547
"Is it time to go to camp?
Is it time to go to camp?"
498
00:29:17,630 --> 00:29:20,592
I think it's gonna be hot
at camp, so
499
00:29:20,675 --> 00:29:22,844
no velvet.
500
00:29:22,927 --> 00:29:25,054
- I get anxious.
- I worry, for sure.
501
00:29:25,138 --> 00:29:26,514
I don't want him to get hurt.
502
00:29:26,598 --> 00:29:28,433
I particularly don't want
anybody to call him,
503
00:29:28,516 --> 00:29:29,851
like, the R word.
504
00:29:29,934 --> 00:29:32,020
There could be some people
that would think,
505
00:29:32,103 --> 00:29:34,022
"Oh, you know,
506
00:29:34,105 --> 00:29:38,401
"shouldn't have someone like
that being Santa," you know.
507
00:29:38,485 --> 00:29:40,171
I mean, there could be somebody
in a group of 100 people
508
00:29:40,195 --> 00:29:41,738
that would feel that way.
509
00:29:41,821 --> 00:29:44,991
I mean, the probability
is fairly high, I would say
510
00:29:45,074 --> 00:29:46,743
particularly old white men.
511
00:29:46,826 --> 00:29:48,870
You gonna bring your beard, too?
512
00:29:48,953 --> 00:29:50,663
Yeah.
513
00:29:51,789 --> 00:29:54,125
It needs a good brush.
514
00:29:54,209 --> 00:29:57,962
It's amazing, really,
the things that he can do
515
00:29:58,046 --> 00:30:00,882
that they told me
he would never do.
516
00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:04,886
The doctor said
he'd never walk and talk,
517
00:30:04,969 --> 00:30:07,013
that he'd be a quadriplegic.
518
00:30:07,096 --> 00:30:09,057
Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
519
00:30:09,140 --> 00:30:12,769
When you have spin a bifida,
usually it's like
520
00:30:12,852 --> 00:30:15,730
a lot of moms are told,
"Your son's gonna...
521
00:30:15,813 --> 00:30:17,482
"Or your daughter's gonna be
a vegetable.
522
00:30:17,565 --> 00:30:19,734
Find a good institution
and visit them on the weekend,"
523
00:30:19,817 --> 00:30:21,194
which is what they told me.
524
00:30:21,277 --> 00:30:23,446
And I went,
"This is not your decision.
525
00:30:23,530 --> 00:30:25,698
And I am done
listening to this."
526
00:30:25,782 --> 00:30:27,408
And I never looked back,
527
00:30:27,492 --> 00:30:31,412
and I never, ever stopped.
528
00:30:31,496 --> 00:30:34,332
What about that cool
"ho, ho, ho" vest?
529
00:30:34,415 --> 00:30:36,251
Mom made this for you.
530
00:30:38,628 --> 00:30:39,921
It's a long journey.
531
00:30:40,004 --> 00:30:43,591
I mean, 30 years is a long time.
532
00:30:43,675 --> 00:30:45,593
It's a big chunk of my life
533
00:30:45,677 --> 00:30:48,930
that I've devoted
to this young man.
534
00:30:49,013 --> 00:30:52,058
I'm 65. I'm tired.
535
00:30:52,141 --> 00:30:55,061
That will be good
for Santa Camp.
536
00:30:55,144 --> 00:30:57,272
We are going to camp
537
00:30:57,355 --> 00:31:02,610
to have Fin have the best
experience that he can
538
00:31:02,694 --> 00:31:04,612
because this is his passion.
539
00:31:04,696 --> 00:31:08,408
And oddly enough,
it's become mine as well.
540
00:31:57,957 --> 00:32:00,335
All right, let's start.
541
00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:01,836
Let's get to work.
542
00:32:06,466 --> 00:32:08,635
- All right.
- I'm taking this one.
543
00:32:08,718 --> 00:32:11,179
A couple mosquitoes flying
around here.
544
00:32:14,223 --> 00:32:15,683
Good to see you, Santa.
545
00:32:15,767 --> 00:32:19,520
Oh, and it's good to see you,
Santa, as well.
546
00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:21,898
Ho! All: Ho!
547
00:32:21,981 --> 00:32:25,276
Ho, ho, ho! All: Ho, ho, ho!
548
00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:31,240
Santa Camp is not something
549
00:32:31,324 --> 00:32:34,494
that I had grown up
envisioning myself doing,
550
00:32:34,577 --> 00:32:38,039
so this is definitely
a new one on me.
551
00:32:38,122 --> 00:32:41,501
I mean, Black Santa
is not widely celebrated.
552
00:32:41,584 --> 00:32:44,170
There's not very many of us, so
553
00:32:44,253 --> 00:32:47,090
oh, it's definitely gonna be
a strange experience.
554
00:32:47,173 --> 00:32:48,800
- This must be Santa.
- It is Santa.
555
00:32:48,883 --> 00:32:51,052
- Has to be a Santa.
- We're glad you're here.
556
00:32:51,135 --> 00:32:52,804
- I'm happy to be here.
- Yeah.
557
00:32:52,887 --> 00:32:57,725
- You're close with your shoes.
- Orange is close to red.
558
00:32:57,809 --> 00:33:00,770
I actually do not own
a lot of red.
559
00:33:00,853 --> 00:33:03,147
Most of the things
that I own are green.
560
00:33:12,448 --> 00:33:16,285
All right, we're gonna come
right up to the sign.
561
00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:18,287
Half circle around.
562
00:33:18,371 --> 00:33:21,791
Elves to the front.
563
00:33:21,874 --> 00:33:24,877
Are you getting excited?
564
00:33:24,961 --> 00:33:26,212
Santa's here.
565
00:33:26,295 --> 00:33:29,841
You with the white beard.
566
00:33:29,924 --> 00:33:31,259
Smile.
567
00:33:47,024 --> 00:33:49,444
I say "Santa," you say "Claus."
568
00:33:49,527 --> 00:33:50,653
Santa! All: Claus!
569
00:33:50,737 --> 00:33:52,113
Santa! All: Claus!
570
00:33:52,196 --> 00:33:54,240
I say "Missus," you say "Claus."
571
00:33:54,323 --> 00:33:55,533
Missus! All: Claus!
572
00:33:55,616 --> 00:33:56,909
Missus! All: Claus!
573
00:33:56,993 --> 00:33:59,287
I say "Rudolph,"
you say "reindeer."
574
00:33:59,370 --> 00:34:00,705
Rudolph! All: Reindeer!
575
00:34:05,626 --> 00:34:08,796
I many times have,
in the past few weeks,
576
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,384
thought that this is
really nuts, really crazy.
577
00:34:17,013 --> 00:34:18,723
Oh!
578
00:34:18,806 --> 00:34:20,600
Oops.
579
00:34:20,683 --> 00:34:24,145
Santa Camps generally attract
580
00:34:24,228 --> 00:34:27,648
gentlemen of a certain age.
581
00:34:27,732 --> 00:34:31,652
Older gentlemen who have
cultivated fat tummies...
582
00:34:31,736 --> 00:34:35,823
And very serious
about their beards.
583
00:34:35,907 --> 00:34:40,328
Usually God-fearing kind of,
like, Vietnam-vet guys
584
00:34:40,411 --> 00:34:44,749
and Christian guys and
585
00:34:44,832 --> 00:34:46,167
guys, you know?
586
00:34:46,250 --> 00:34:47,919
Heads up.
587
00:34:48,002 --> 00:34:51,380
We're going
into Santa world, and
588
00:34:51,464 --> 00:34:53,966
I have no idea
how it's gonna go,
589
00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:57,512
because we are very different...
590
00:34:57,595 --> 00:35:00,056
Really different.
591
00:35:01,182 --> 00:35:02,934
Are you nervous, Fin?
592
00:35:05,061 --> 00:35:08,815
Got to do it for The Fin
because it's his dream.
593
00:35:14,028 --> 00:35:15,738
Oh, damn it.
594
00:35:17,198 --> 00:35:19,200
I know you're excited.
595
00:35:19,283 --> 00:35:21,828
Please try to calm down, okay?
596
00:35:26,207 --> 00:35:28,543
Hi.
597
00:35:28,626 --> 00:35:31,712
Hi, everybody. I am Santa Fin.
598
00:35:31,796 --> 00:35:32,964
Fin, your name tag.
599
00:35:33,047 --> 00:35:34,340
We'll worry about Wi-Fi later.
600
00:35:34,423 --> 00:35:35,883
Oh, yes. Yeah.
601
00:35:35,967 --> 00:35:37,694
- Wi-Fi, where's the Wi-Fi?
- Yeah, right, right.
602
00:35:37,718 --> 00:35:38,928
Okay, that's for Fin.
603
00:35:39,011 --> 00:35:41,514
Okay, there you go, Santa Fin.
604
00:35:41,597 --> 00:35:43,558
Yeah.
605
00:35:43,641 --> 00:35:46,477
- This is my son Fin.
- I'm his momager.
606
00:35:46,561 --> 00:35:47,854
Hi, Fin. Pleasure to meet you.
607
00:35:47,937 --> 00:35:49,897
I'm Dave.
I'm one of the instructors.
608
00:35:49,981 --> 00:35:52,775
I've been Santa for six years.
609
00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:54,277
Awesome. Awesome.
610
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,989
- There you go, like that.
- Look right at me.
611
00:35:58,072 --> 00:35:59,824
Now...
612
00:35:59,907 --> 00:36:01,325
There you go.
613
00:36:01,409 --> 00:36:03,619
All right.
Are you ready to go, Fin?
614
00:36:03,703 --> 00:36:04,912
Your turn, dude.
615
00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:06,664
All right,
and look right at the child
616
00:36:06,747 --> 00:36:10,376
like the child is telling you
what's on their list.
617
00:36:10,459 --> 00:36:12,295
I felt very nervous.
618
00:36:12,378 --> 00:36:14,505
But he usually
wins everybody over
619
00:36:14,589 --> 00:36:17,884
regardless
of all of the obstacles.
620
00:36:17,967 --> 00:36:20,052
- All right, you're all set.
- All right.
621
00:36:20,136 --> 00:36:21,262
And who's next?
622
00:36:24,974 --> 00:36:27,351
Let me push the button here,
see if it goes on.
623
00:36:40,114 --> 00:36:43,492
Smile.
624
00:36:43,576 --> 00:36:46,329
Snow, let it snow, let it snow.
625
00:36:46,412 --> 00:36:48,080
That's a good shot.
626
00:36:48,164 --> 00:36:50,249
They won't believe that
in Rhode Island.
627
00:36:52,251 --> 00:36:55,004
So what was Christmas like
down in Arkansas?
628
00:36:55,087 --> 00:36:56,714
Well, I actually grew up
in Texas.
629
00:36:56,797 --> 00:36:58,841
- Oh, you did? Okay.
- Yeah.
630
00:36:58,925 --> 00:37:00,301
My mom's a lesbian.
631
00:37:00,384 --> 00:37:05,306
So Santa was
a Black lesbian woman for me.
632
00:37:05,389 --> 00:37:06,599
Okay.
633
00:37:06,682 --> 00:37:08,142
I think
634
00:37:08,225 --> 00:37:10,978
sometimes you just worry
that you're going to say
635
00:37:11,062 --> 00:37:13,356
the wrong thing
and offend somebody.
636
00:37:13,439 --> 00:37:14,941
You know, you're just not sure
637
00:37:15,024 --> 00:37:18,110
how to deal with
those situations,
638
00:37:18,194 --> 00:37:22,073
especially today, in today's
politically correct world
639
00:37:22,156 --> 00:37:24,075
and cancel culture
and everything.
640
00:37:24,158 --> 00:37:27,286
You're just so afraid
what to say.
641
00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:29,580
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you. I'm Suki.
642
00:37:29,664 --> 00:37:32,667
- Hi. Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
643
00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:36,379
We've tried to really work
on just making ourselves
644
00:37:36,462 --> 00:37:38,506
more familiar
with what's going on.
645
00:37:38,589 --> 00:37:41,509
And, I mean, you know,
we were talking today
646
00:37:41,592 --> 00:37:42,885
on another topic,
647
00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:45,680
but just
the whole pronouns issue,
648
00:37:45,763 --> 00:37:47,723
that for us old guys,
649
00:37:47,807 --> 00:37:52,061
it's like, "My pronoun?"
You know?
650
00:37:52,144 --> 00:37:54,689
Things have
really changed recently
651
00:37:54,772 --> 00:37:58,317
in acknowledging
the gender issues.
652
00:38:00,653 --> 00:38:03,489
- "Gender issues"?
- And I was like...
653
00:38:04,907 --> 00:38:07,284
- Yep.
- They're trying.
654
00:38:07,368 --> 00:38:09,453
But there's some
other verbiage we could use
655
00:38:09,537 --> 00:38:11,122
other than, like, "issues."
656
00:38:20,923 --> 00:38:22,717
Grab a seat.
657
00:38:24,635 --> 00:38:25,678
All right.
658
00:38:25,761 --> 00:38:28,764
So we have a lot of new Santas.
659
00:38:30,850 --> 00:38:32,560
Chris, who is a Black Santa,
660
00:38:32,643 --> 00:38:35,396
he's from Little Rock, Arkansas,
661
00:38:35,479 --> 00:38:38,315
and then Levi
662
00:38:38,399 --> 00:38:40,443
is transgender, male.
663
00:38:40,526 --> 00:38:43,154
So they're getting into this
664
00:38:43,237 --> 00:38:46,615
in a very different way
than most of us did.
665
00:38:46,699 --> 00:38:50,745
You know, there are things
we might have to think about.
666
00:38:50,828 --> 00:38:52,204
We've got to get used to it,
667
00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:55,249
because as
the last census bureau said,
668
00:38:55,332 --> 00:38:57,209
we are a minority now.
669
00:38:57,293 --> 00:38:59,879
So the biggest hurdle
670
00:38:59,962 --> 00:39:02,757
that's embedded
in everybody's mind
671
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,802
is that Santa is a elderly,
672
00:39:06,886 --> 00:39:08,637
older white male,
673
00:39:08,721 --> 00:39:10,181
and it's the toughest thing.
674
00:39:10,264 --> 00:39:12,349
When somebody sees
a Black Santa, they're like,
675
00:39:12,433 --> 00:39:16,270
"Mm, oh, jeez, that's not
what we were raised with."
676
00:39:16,353 --> 00:39:17,688
To me, it wouldn't be a shock,
677
00:39:17,772 --> 00:39:19,190
but it would be different
678
00:39:19,273 --> 00:39:23,736
because it'll be the first time
I've seen one.
679
00:39:23,819 --> 00:39:25,905
Yeah, okay, let's move along,
680
00:39:25,988 --> 00:39:28,074
'cause we still got a lot to do.
681
00:39:33,579 --> 00:39:34,955
I hope it works.
682
00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,500
Yeah.
683
00:39:49,136 --> 00:39:53,641
As a school for Santas
and Mrs. Clauses and helpers,
684
00:39:53,724 --> 00:39:55,726
we try to cover
685
00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:57,645
the whole gamut of being Santa.
686
00:39:57,728 --> 00:40:00,856
All: Dasher, Dancer,
687
00:40:00,940 --> 00:40:03,442
Prancer, Vixen...
688
00:40:03,526 --> 00:40:06,987
You have to know the basics
of the Santa legend.
689
00:40:07,071 --> 00:40:08,739
All: Rudolph.
690
00:40:08,823 --> 00:40:11,158
Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen,
Comet, Cupid...
691
00:40:11,242 --> 00:40:12,993
But you develop your own Santa.
692
00:40:13,077 --> 00:40:17,331
All: Dasher, Dancer, Prancer,
Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Donner.
693
00:40:17,414 --> 00:40:20,376
We have people who have
694
00:40:20,459 --> 00:40:23,129
20, 30 years of experience.
695
00:40:23,212 --> 00:40:26,632
Always the first question is...
696
00:40:26,715 --> 00:40:28,843
"You're not the real Santa.
697
00:40:28,926 --> 00:40:31,053
I know you're not
the real Santa."
698
00:40:31,137 --> 00:40:34,098
What's your answer to it?
What's your answer to it?
699
00:40:34,181 --> 00:40:35,933
Anybody?
700
00:40:36,016 --> 00:40:38,727
- Yes. I am real.
- Excellent.
701
00:40:38,811 --> 00:40:41,522
It's exactly what I say...
"Of course I am. I'm Santa.
702
00:40:41,605 --> 00:40:44,358
Ow, ooh. Ow, that hurt.
I'm real. Look, pinch me."
703
00:40:47,945 --> 00:40:49,947
We've got a lot
of Mrs. Clauses now,
704
00:40:50,030 --> 00:40:52,032
and they're looking
to figure out
705
00:40:52,116 --> 00:40:55,536
how they can really become
part of the community.
706
00:40:55,619 --> 00:40:58,289
Round ones on the front part.
707
00:40:58,372 --> 00:40:59,915
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
708
00:41:08,632 --> 00:41:11,469
We really try to make it
an interactive program.
709
00:41:11,552 --> 00:41:15,222
Okay, so Santa loves
to laugh, right?
710
00:41:15,306 --> 00:41:18,934
So what do you do first is
you start with a little giggle.
711
00:41:24,064 --> 00:41:26,567
- No.
- Please join me.
712
00:41:28,694 --> 00:41:32,114
- Can you say "ho, ho, ho"?
- Come on, Fin.
713
00:41:32,198 --> 00:41:37,077
Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
714
00:41:37,161 --> 00:41:38,913
Good job, Fin.
715
00:41:38,996 --> 00:41:41,540
The most common thing
we hear after camp is,
716
00:41:41,624 --> 00:41:44,877
"I think my brain's
gonna explode."
717
00:42:12,696 --> 00:42:15,449
Being the only person
of color here,
718
00:42:15,532 --> 00:42:19,161
it was definitely lonely
and awkward,
719
00:42:19,245 --> 00:42:20,788
to say the least.
720
00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:28,045
Does Santa have
a diversity problem?
721
00:42:28,128 --> 00:42:29,505
Boy, that is a good question.
722
00:42:29,588 --> 00:42:33,384
Why is he predominantly white?
723
00:42:34,718 --> 00:42:37,263
Um...
724
00:42:37,346 --> 00:42:39,515
Hmm.
725
00:42:39,598 --> 00:42:41,600
I don't know
if it's a diversity problem
726
00:42:41,684 --> 00:42:45,145
or it's just people accept
that Santa is a certain way.
727
00:42:45,229 --> 00:42:48,023
It's probably historical.
728
00:42:48,107 --> 00:42:49,400
Yeah.
729
00:42:49,483 --> 00:42:53,904
And, actually, the first Santa
was from Turkey.
730
00:42:53,988 --> 00:42:56,282
So he really wasn't white.
731
00:42:56,365 --> 00:42:58,576
He was
732
00:42:58,659 --> 00:43:01,161
olive, would you say?
733
00:43:01,245 --> 00:43:03,163
Santa's an icon.
734
00:43:03,247 --> 00:43:07,126
Coke was a big promoter
of what Santa looked like,
735
00:43:07,209 --> 00:43:09,128
to the point
where you have customers
736
00:43:09,211 --> 00:43:12,298
who come along and say,
"I want Santa."
737
00:43:12,381 --> 00:43:14,383
And they know exactly
what they want.
738
00:43:14,466 --> 00:43:16,719
They want the Coke Santa.
739
00:43:16,802 --> 00:43:18,679
Over all the years
I've done this,
740
00:43:18,762 --> 00:43:21,140
I have never been asked
by a child,
741
00:43:21,223 --> 00:43:22,683
"How come you're white?
742
00:43:22,766 --> 00:43:24,727
How come Santa
isn't Black like me?"
743
00:43:24,810 --> 00:43:26,478
So kids don't see color.
744
00:43:26,562 --> 00:43:31,692
Do you find that
the challenge of being a Santa,
745
00:43:31,775 --> 00:43:35,529
when most of us look like this,
is tough,
746
00:43:35,612 --> 00:43:38,615
or do you think it's gonna
become more and more accepted?
747
00:43:38,699 --> 00:43:42,202
I don't think it'll be
as tough as most would think
748
00:43:42,286 --> 00:43:46,749
because there is a request,
a need out there.
749
00:43:46,832 --> 00:43:48,917
For us, the closest Santa
750
00:43:49,001 --> 00:43:51,420
would have been
New Orleans or Houston.
751
00:43:51,503 --> 00:43:52,963
- Yeah.
- Five to nine hours away.
752
00:43:53,047 --> 00:43:55,424
So I'm gonna be my own.
753
00:43:58,385 --> 00:44:02,598
Are you looking to be
Santa elsewhere?
754
00:44:02,681 --> 00:44:04,141
- Yes.
- In other words...
755
00:44:04,224 --> 00:44:06,685
- Okay.
- Yes.
756
00:44:06,769 --> 00:44:09,730
It's... that's
757
00:44:09,813 --> 00:44:10,898
yeah.
758
00:44:10,981 --> 00:44:13,275
So... yeah.
759
00:44:15,527 --> 00:44:17,571
I don't necessarily think
that other Santas
760
00:44:17,654 --> 00:44:19,865
were asked
those kind of questions.
761
00:44:21,617 --> 00:44:23,786
There are definitely
a few Santas
762
00:44:23,869 --> 00:44:25,788
that are uncomfortable
with a Santa of color
763
00:44:25,871 --> 00:44:28,165
or, in general,
with me being here.
764
00:44:29,708 --> 00:44:33,253
But it's not
a new experience to me
765
00:44:33,337 --> 00:44:35,881
because I've gone through it
all my life.
766
00:44:40,636 --> 00:44:43,764
It's not a ball, teddy bear.
767
00:44:46,183 --> 00:44:48,352
Santa, of course,
is the limelight,
768
00:44:48,435 --> 00:44:51,939
but Mrs. Claus has been
coming up into that limelight
769
00:44:52,022 --> 00:44:53,190
quite a bit in the last,
770
00:44:53,273 --> 00:44:55,275
I don't know,
eight to ten years.
771
00:44:55,359 --> 00:44:58,028
I needed an outlet
for the seriousness of nursing.
772
00:44:58,112 --> 00:45:00,614
And now we're here.
So you just never know.
773
00:45:00,697 --> 00:45:03,951
I think that the Mrs. Santas
tend to be overlooked a lot.
774
00:45:04,034 --> 00:45:07,830
Sometimes you feel like,
"Ah, nobody cares."
775
00:45:07,913 --> 00:45:09,957
Santa and Mrs. Claus
don't always get along.
776
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,459
No, because they're
two different people,
777
00:45:12,543 --> 00:45:16,296
sometimes with two different
opinions about things.
778
00:45:16,380 --> 00:45:18,507
Most of the time
they better, though.
779
00:45:25,013 --> 00:45:28,559
Any of you who are Mrs. Clauses
780
00:45:28,642 --> 00:45:30,144
it is a chore
781
00:45:30,227 --> 00:45:32,980
trying to make sure
they're all dressed
782
00:45:33,063 --> 00:45:35,858
and they look good
and they're presentable
783
00:45:35,941 --> 00:45:40,487
and they have their white
gloves and they're all clean.
784
00:45:40,571 --> 00:45:41,739
That's interesting.
785
00:45:41,822 --> 00:45:43,240
After all these years,
786
00:45:43,323 --> 00:45:45,826
I wondered how my stuff
all got put together.
787
00:45:47,327 --> 00:45:48,996
Just a comment on that.
788
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:53,500
It's good for the kids to see
that they're married,
789
00:45:53,584 --> 00:45:57,671
that they're married
like their parents are married,
790
00:45:57,754 --> 00:46:00,674
that it's not that
much different,
791
00:46:00,757 --> 00:46:04,178
except that he's Santa Claus
and that's Mrs. Claus.
792
00:46:05,929 --> 00:46:09,766
Santa is often considered
the lead performer,
793
00:46:09,850 --> 00:46:11,977
and Mrs. Claus
is the support character.
794
00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:15,647
How do each of you balance
your performances
795
00:46:15,731 --> 00:46:18,025
to share that spotlight?
796
00:46:18,108 --> 00:46:22,237
I have heard Santas
ask for the pricing schedule,
797
00:46:22,321 --> 00:46:26,074
and it'd be $100
for me and Mrs. Claus.
798
00:46:26,158 --> 00:46:28,094
And they said, "Well, you know,
that's a little steep.
799
00:46:28,118 --> 00:46:30,412
How about if Mrs. Claus
doesn't come?"
800
00:46:30,496 --> 00:46:32,456
And he says,
"Then it'll be $150."
801
00:46:36,877 --> 00:46:39,379
That's a good point.
802
00:46:39,463 --> 00:46:44,009
We have another idea to that.
803
00:47:08,158 --> 00:47:09,326
Let him have it!
804
00:47:09,409 --> 00:47:11,995
Anybody know
how to spell "doghouse"?
805
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,915
Excuse me,
I'm looking for the real Santa.
806
00:47:16,291 --> 00:47:17,834
It's like when you go to a show
807
00:47:17,918 --> 00:47:20,587
to see the Rolling Stones
and they have a warm-up act.
808
00:47:25,676 --> 00:47:29,221
Boo!
809
00:47:29,304 --> 00:47:30,931
No, that's not the way we do it.
810
00:47:31,014 --> 00:47:32,975
- It's... it's...
- My turn.
811
00:47:33,058 --> 00:47:35,435
I don't even know
where to start with all this.
812
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,062
But I will say that I think
813
00:47:37,145 --> 00:47:40,566
that your pricing structure
needs to be rethought.
814
00:47:45,696 --> 00:47:48,907
That was rough.
815
00:47:49,950 --> 00:47:51,577
Can I help you, Santa?
816
00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:52,786
Can you dress yourself?
817
00:47:52,869 --> 00:47:54,621
- Stop it!
- Are you gonna be okay?
818
00:47:54,705 --> 00:47:58,208
Do you need the fluff your fur?
'Cause... what the fuck?
819
00:47:58,292 --> 00:48:00,544
- Yeah, it was...
- No.
820
00:48:00,627 --> 00:48:02,504
During the Mr. and Mrs. Claus
panel, we, like,
821
00:48:02,588 --> 00:48:04,798
had to, like, nonverbally
check in with each other.
822
00:48:04,881 --> 00:48:06,466
There was a lot
of hand squeezing.
823
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:07,884
Like, "Let's hold this together.
824
00:48:07,968 --> 00:48:09,344
Like, are you gonna
say something?"
825
00:48:09,428 --> 00:48:11,054
- Breathing.
- Yeah.
826
00:48:11,138 --> 00:48:13,032
And, like, the consistent
narrative through that panel
827
00:48:13,056 --> 00:48:16,393
was, like, "Mrs. Claus'"
whole purpose
828
00:48:16,476 --> 00:48:19,146
is, like, keeping
her Santa together.
829
00:48:19,229 --> 00:48:20,731
- Yeah.
- Gross.
830
00:48:20,814 --> 00:48:23,567
Like, we're not there anymore,
I hope.
831
00:48:23,650 --> 00:48:25,986
I wish we would have said
something when the guy said
832
00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:27,237
that it should be
833
00:48:27,321 --> 00:48:29,656
this traditional
"husband and wife" thing.
834
00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:32,451
It didn't feel like a space
where I could be like,
835
00:48:32,534 --> 00:48:34,995
"I'm sorry. What the fuck?"
836
00:48:35,078 --> 00:48:36,389
That was my...
Coming out of it, I really wish
837
00:48:36,413 --> 00:48:38,832
that I would have said something
838
00:48:38,915 --> 00:48:40,542
or stood up in that moment.
839
00:48:42,044 --> 00:48:43,587
I think we're learning
what we can.
840
00:48:43,670 --> 00:48:45,589
And in the moments
where we just, like,
841
00:48:45,672 --> 00:48:47,466
are not getting any value
out of this,
842
00:48:47,549 --> 00:48:49,760
we're gonna go
and make our own fun.
843
00:48:56,058 --> 00:48:57,601
We're stealing this.
844
00:48:57,684 --> 00:49:00,103
This is officially
our golf cart now.
845
00:49:03,148 --> 00:49:06,943
Don't tip.
846
00:49:07,027 --> 00:49:09,655
- Uh-oh. We're off-roading now.
- Floor it!
847
00:49:09,738 --> 00:49:11,531
Don't "transplain"
driving to me.
848
00:49:11,615 --> 00:49:13,533
I'm sorry.
849
00:49:15,410 --> 00:49:17,245
Birdie's in the tree.
850
00:49:21,416 --> 00:49:24,753
Merry Christmas!
851
00:49:24,836 --> 00:49:26,880
- Santa Land.
- Santa Land.
852
00:49:26,963 --> 00:49:29,925
Oh.
853
00:49:34,054 --> 00:49:35,931
Oh, no, that's the hawk.
854
00:49:36,014 --> 00:49:37,891
Is that the red tail?
855
00:49:37,974 --> 00:49:40,227
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
856
00:49:51,446 --> 00:49:55,992
I'm not what you would call
a conventional Mrs. Claus.
857
00:49:56,076 --> 00:49:59,746
I guess you could say
I'm not a dress wearer.
858
00:49:59,830 --> 00:50:02,582
In literature and pictures,
859
00:50:02,666 --> 00:50:06,753
I don't think I've ever once
seen Santa
860
00:50:06,837 --> 00:50:09,756
with a woman with pants on.
861
00:50:15,387 --> 00:50:17,806
That looks awful.
862
00:50:17,889 --> 00:50:19,766
And she's got
a really cool belt.
863
00:50:19,850 --> 00:50:22,269
I think that ties
it all together.
864
00:50:22,352 --> 00:50:25,105
- What do I wear?
- What does Mrs. Claus wear?
865
00:50:25,188 --> 00:50:27,774
So I have, you know,
the little colonial bonnet.
866
00:50:27,858 --> 00:50:30,485
Put a little holly in my hair.
867
00:50:30,569 --> 00:50:32,696
- Oh, God.
- I know, right?
868
00:50:32,779 --> 00:50:34,281
Oh, my God.
869
00:50:34,364 --> 00:50:36,616
You can make any kind
of music you want.
870
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:40,620
Walmart, online, $18.
871
00:50:41,663 --> 00:50:46,334
My view is Mrs. Claus
is Santa's wife.
872
00:50:46,418 --> 00:50:49,045
When he's not there,
she's in charge.
873
00:50:49,129 --> 00:50:51,590
She takes care of him
like any good wife, you know?
874
00:50:51,673 --> 00:50:55,886
- I'm sorry. I'm Dr. Claus.
- Like, I am not the wife.
875
00:50:57,596 --> 00:51:00,098
Like, I have my PhD. You're not
gonna call me Mrs. Claus.
876
00:51:00,182 --> 00:51:02,017
I'm Dr. Claus.
877
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:04,311
My spouse is trans,
and I'm queer.
878
00:51:04,394 --> 00:51:06,229
Like, actually,
when we come together,
879
00:51:06,313 --> 00:51:09,149
I really want to not bring up
the fact that we're married
880
00:51:09,232 --> 00:51:11,485
and instead really emphasize,
like, Santa's got a job,
881
00:51:11,568 --> 00:51:13,612
and I've got a job,
and we work together
882
00:51:13,695 --> 00:51:15,864
and really make
that space for folks.
883
00:51:19,618 --> 00:51:21,912
- Yay.
- Bravo.
884
00:51:26,082 --> 00:51:29,336
- I love... I don't know... doctor.
- That's, like, the best.
885
00:51:29,419 --> 00:51:31,254
That's so great.
886
00:51:31,338 --> 00:51:34,174
Yeah, I like the idea
that it can be fluid.
887
00:51:34,257 --> 00:51:37,552
And I like the idea
of being a goddess as well.
888
00:51:37,636 --> 00:51:39,846
Hey, you know,
Mrs. Claus is real.
889
00:51:39,930 --> 00:51:41,556
She's here. She's a part of it.
890
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,058
And we get to define her,
891
00:51:43,141 --> 00:51:45,560
and that's a great freedom,
I think.
892
00:51:45,644 --> 00:51:48,814
- Let me ask... how about pay?
- Oh, absolutely.
893
00:51:48,897 --> 00:51:50,857
Mrs. Claus
should have equal billing,
894
00:51:50,941 --> 00:51:53,485
because then it's not even
about negotiating,
895
00:51:53,568 --> 00:51:56,112
it's just knowing to have...
896
00:51:56,196 --> 00:51:57,447
It's courtesy and respect
897
00:51:57,531 --> 00:52:00,200
in terms of,
now we can set the tone.
898
00:52:00,283 --> 00:52:02,661
One thing that I would like
to see changed is,
899
00:52:02,744 --> 00:52:06,373
I want to see pant suits
thrown in there somewhere.
900
00:52:08,166 --> 00:52:10,353
I'm just learning so much
just by what everybody says.
901
00:52:10,377 --> 00:52:14,089
It's like a potpourri of ideas
and information.
902
00:52:14,172 --> 00:52:15,507
It's like, "Wow."
903
00:52:15,590 --> 00:52:17,843
I'm glad I didn't miss
today's get-together.
904
00:52:27,602 --> 00:52:31,064
All: Ho, ho, ho! Ho, ho, ho!
905
00:52:31,147 --> 00:52:35,151
Ho, ho, ho!
906
00:52:35,235 --> 00:52:37,821
Nice job. We're getting there.
907
00:52:40,657 --> 00:52:43,869
We have a little presentation
and some information
908
00:52:43,952 --> 00:52:47,080
we want to share
before we have lunch.
909
00:52:47,163 --> 00:52:49,791
If you're a student
of Dick Marshall's,
910
00:52:49,875 --> 00:52:52,294
would you stand up, please?
911
00:52:55,463 --> 00:52:57,507
Not yet. Not yet, Norm.
912
00:52:57,591 --> 00:52:59,384
Not yet.
913
00:53:02,929 --> 00:53:06,182
Today
we're gonna recognize Dick.
914
00:53:09,352 --> 00:53:11,938
Can we have a moment of silence
915
00:53:12,022 --> 00:53:14,482
for Dick Marshall, please?
916
00:53:45,221 --> 00:53:47,265
I just want you to think
about us
917
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:49,976
when you're doing your stuff
for this season.
918
00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:53,229
And if there's something that
bubbles up and you're thinking,
919
00:53:53,313 --> 00:53:55,690
"Wow, this might be a really
cool thing for those guys."
920
00:53:55,774 --> 00:53:58,652
What do you want to do, Fin?
Why don't you tell us?
921
00:53:58,735 --> 00:54:03,114
I want to be a Santa
in December parade.
922
00:54:03,198 --> 00:54:05,492
That's not easy.
923
00:54:05,575 --> 00:54:08,411
I mean, what happens is,
924
00:54:08,495 --> 00:54:10,997
they get a Santa who's local,
925
00:54:11,081 --> 00:54:15,001
and so he's there until he
takes his last sleigh ride.
926
00:54:15,085 --> 00:54:16,336
That's right.
927
00:54:16,419 --> 00:54:18,296
- No, it's very territorial.
- Yeah.
928
00:54:18,380 --> 00:54:20,465
There's a little bit
of competitiveness
929
00:54:20,548 --> 00:54:22,592
around stuff, I've noticed.
930
00:54:22,676 --> 00:54:24,010
Well...
931
00:54:24,094 --> 00:54:26,179
I, literally, as his mom,
was telling him,
932
00:54:26,262 --> 00:54:27,973
"No, this is not going
to happen.
933
00:54:28,056 --> 00:54:29,683
You need to let go
of this dream."
934
00:54:29,766 --> 00:54:32,227
And he's like, "No, I'm not
letting go of this dream."
935
00:54:32,310 --> 00:54:34,104
What about my sleigh?
936
00:54:34,187 --> 00:54:36,022
So you want to be in your sleigh
937
00:54:36,106 --> 00:54:37,399
when you're in the parade.
938
00:54:37,482 --> 00:54:39,192
- Oh, there's an idea.
- Yes.
939
00:54:39,275 --> 00:54:42,237
- Yeah.
- That's a big yes. Okay.
940
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,198
It's a Portland Cutter.
941
00:54:45,281 --> 00:54:49,035
It was built in the early 1900s.
942
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:51,246
You could say,
"Well, we have a sleigh.
943
00:54:51,329 --> 00:54:52,747
We have a flatbed."
944
00:54:52,831 --> 00:54:56,376
Kind of put together
almost, you know, packages
945
00:54:56,459 --> 00:54:58,545
- that you can offer to people.
- Oh, my God, okay.
946
00:54:58,628 --> 00:54:59,963
Ho, ho, ho.
947
00:55:00,046 --> 00:55:02,298
- Would you wave?
- Let me see your queen's wave.
948
00:55:02,382 --> 00:55:04,384
Big waves, both sides, Fin.
949
00:55:04,467 --> 00:55:06,070
You need to work out
every day during this.
950
00:55:06,094 --> 00:55:07,971
All right, we're gonna
start working out
951
00:55:08,054 --> 00:55:09,556
your arms there, Santa.
952
00:55:09,639 --> 00:55:12,100
Left side, right side.
953
00:55:12,183 --> 00:55:14,978
Left side, right side.
954
00:55:15,061 --> 00:55:17,897
Great gigs can be hard to get.
955
00:55:17,981 --> 00:55:22,110
And if it doesn't happen,
it's gonna suck.
956
00:55:22,193 --> 00:55:24,320
It's gonna really suck.
957
00:55:45,008 --> 00:55:48,136
So, Bob, you've got to tell
your Christmas Eve story.
958
00:55:49,763 --> 00:55:52,640
People are coming in
and telling me what they want.
959
00:55:52,724 --> 00:55:56,227
This one teenage girl comes up.
She sat on my lap.
960
00:55:56,311 --> 00:55:59,064
And I went, "Oh, my God."
961
00:55:59,147 --> 00:56:01,316
They must have had
a chili cook-off
962
00:56:01,399 --> 00:56:03,151
the night before or something.
963
00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:12,368
So who else has some stories
to share?
964
00:56:23,338 --> 00:56:25,799
So the story
965
00:56:25,882 --> 00:56:29,177
actually starts a long time ago.
966
00:56:29,260 --> 00:56:32,680
I wanted my daughter to grow up
with representation
967
00:56:32,764 --> 00:56:35,141
of our family.
968
00:56:35,225 --> 00:56:39,604
So what I decided to do
was to get
969
00:56:39,687 --> 00:56:42,982
a Black Santa inflatable.
970
00:56:43,066 --> 00:56:46,778
Last year
I get a letter in the mail.
971
00:56:46,861 --> 00:56:49,697
And the letter
972
00:56:49,781 --> 00:56:52,075
is.
973
00:56:52,158 --> 00:56:53,660
Right here.
974
00:56:56,121 --> 00:56:59,958
"Please remove your Negro
Santa Claus yard decoration.
975
00:57:00,041 --> 00:57:02,001
"You should not try to deceive
children
976
00:57:02,085 --> 00:57:05,672
"into believing
that I am a Negro.
977
00:57:05,755 --> 00:57:07,715
"I am a Caucasian,
978
00:57:07,799 --> 00:57:09,759
white man to you,
979
00:57:09,843 --> 00:57:12,178
"and have been
for the past 600 years.
980
00:57:12,262 --> 00:57:15,140
"Your being jealous of my race
981
00:57:15,223 --> 00:57:19,644
"is no excuse
for your dishonesty.
982
00:57:19,727 --> 00:57:23,273
"Besides that, you're making
yourself a laughingstock
983
00:57:23,356 --> 00:57:25,150
"of the neighborhood.
984
00:57:25,233 --> 00:57:28,069
"Maybe you should move
985
00:57:28,153 --> 00:57:32,532
"to a neighborhood with
the rest of your race's kind.
986
00:57:32,615 --> 00:57:35,702
Yours truly, Santa Claus."
987
00:57:38,246 --> 00:57:39,873
And
988
00:57:39,956 --> 00:57:41,416
it came with a picture
989
00:57:41,499 --> 00:57:45,795
Santa Claus with a thumbs-down.
990
00:57:45,879 --> 00:57:47,505
Oh, my God.
991
00:57:49,716 --> 00:57:53,636
I brought this to do this here.
992
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:58,266
Yeah!
993
00:58:05,315 --> 00:58:08,401
I'm gonna be the Santa
994
00:58:08,484 --> 00:58:10,403
for kids that look like me
in my area.
995
00:58:10,486 --> 00:58:13,573
And coming here
has given me the tools
996
00:58:13,656 --> 00:58:15,783
to be able to do that
to the best of my abilities.
997
00:58:15,867 --> 00:58:17,827
And I'm so happy
that I got to come
998
00:58:17,911 --> 00:58:19,913
and spend this weekend
in New England.
999
00:58:19,996 --> 00:58:23,124
Welcome.
1000
00:58:25,460 --> 00:58:27,587
Who wants to follow that story?
1001
00:58:30,673 --> 00:58:33,927
- All right, everybody up.
- Let's go.
1002
00:58:36,012 --> 00:58:37,931
I don't know the words.
1003
00:58:38,014 --> 00:58:39,807
Let's all teach him.
1004
00:58:39,891 --> 00:58:41,976
- All right, ready?
- Ready?
1005
00:58:42,060 --> 00:58:43,228
Who do we start with?
1006
00:58:43,311 --> 00:58:45,104
- Dasher.
- Okay.
1007
00:59:01,579 --> 00:59:03,456
And you got to shake the tail.
1008
00:59:03,539 --> 00:59:04,999
- Right, yeah.
- There you go.
1009
00:59:32,402 --> 00:59:34,487
Next year I'm planning
to come back
1010
00:59:34,570 --> 00:59:36,322
- and bring my wife with me.
- Oh, neat.
1011
00:59:36,406 --> 00:59:39,659
She might as well go to
Mrs. Claus school, too, so..,
1012
00:59:39,742 --> 00:59:41,536
- Yeah, my wife is there now.
- Okay.
1013
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,544
- Levi, step forward, sir.
- Thank you.
1014
00:59:49,627 --> 00:59:51,421
- Thank you.
- Ho, ho, ho!
1015
00:59:51,504 --> 00:59:53,631
Ho, ho, ho!
1016
00:59:59,595 --> 01:00:02,807
- Here's my card.
- Thank you.
1017
01:00:02,890 --> 01:00:04,809
I love that. Awesome.
1018
01:00:04,892 --> 01:00:06,227
Give me a high five.
1019
01:00:06,311 --> 01:00:08,187
This has been
a wonderful experience for me.
1020
01:00:08,271 --> 01:00:10,398
It has been. Thank you. Bye-bye.
1021
01:00:10,481 --> 01:00:12,233
Bye-bye. Come on.
1022
01:00:14,110 --> 01:00:16,904
So I hope you're going away
with some good memories,
1023
01:00:16,988 --> 01:00:18,781
lots of information.
1024
01:00:18,865 --> 01:00:23,536
And make sure you grab
a snowball on your way out
1025
01:00:23,619 --> 01:00:27,373
and take that home
and put it up on your desk,
1026
01:00:27,457 --> 01:00:29,042
on your bedside,
1027
01:00:29,125 --> 01:00:31,005
or carry it with you
when you go out and do gigs
1028
01:00:31,085 --> 01:00:33,796
and remember that all together
1029
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,633
we've really created
a special world here
1030
01:00:37,717 --> 01:00:41,721
and a special experience
1031
01:00:41,804 --> 01:00:44,098
that hopefully won't melt away.
1032
01:00:57,695 --> 01:01:00,865
We're fine.
1033
01:01:20,468 --> 01:01:22,637
Oh, my God.
1034
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,100
This is Suki.
1035
01:01:27,183 --> 01:01:30,103
- Hey, Suki.
- It's MK Monley calling.
1036
01:01:30,186 --> 01:01:31,979
MK Monley? Hello.
1037
01:01:32,063 --> 01:01:34,440
- Yeah.
- Hey, from the lantern parade.
1038
01:01:34,524 --> 01:01:36,901
Yes. Yes. Hi.
1039
01:01:36,984 --> 01:01:40,530
Yeah, so I just wanted
to let you know our team met,
1040
01:01:40,613 --> 01:01:43,449
and we would
1041
01:01:43,533 --> 01:01:45,743
love to have Fin participate.
1042
01:01:45,827 --> 01:01:47,912
Oh, my God!
1043
01:01:47,995 --> 01:01:50,456
Oh, my God! I'm, like...
1044
01:01:50,540 --> 01:01:52,959
- Yeah, so we'll...
- Can I just tell Santa Fin?
1045
01:01:53,042 --> 01:01:56,421
Need to figure out
logistics and...
1046
01:01:56,504 --> 01:01:57,964
Indeed.
1047
01:01:58,047 --> 01:02:02,510
You guys, this is MK Monley
calling from Waterbury,
1048
01:02:02,593 --> 01:02:05,847
and you're gonna be
in her beautiful.
1049
01:02:05,930 --> 01:02:08,307
Festival of Lights Parade
this year.
1050
01:02:08,391 --> 01:02:10,476
- Oh, my God!
- Whoo-hoo!
1051
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,520
- Oh, my God, Fin Barre.
- That's so exciting.
1052
01:02:12,603 --> 01:02:14,147
He is so excited.
1053
01:02:14,230 --> 01:02:16,149
I wish you could see him
right now.
1054
01:02:16,232 --> 01:02:17,650
He's jumping up and down.
1055
01:02:17,733 --> 01:02:19,360
Oh, oh, okay, no.
Be careful. Be careful.
1056
01:02:19,444 --> 01:02:20,987
He's actually
jumping up and down.
1057
01:02:21,070 --> 01:02:23,656
Well, MK, we'll be
in touch soon, okay?
1058
01:02:23,739 --> 01:02:25,825
- Okay, thanks.
- All right. Thank you.
1059
01:02:25,908 --> 01:02:28,453
From the bottom of my heart,
thank you.
1060
01:02:28,536 --> 01:02:31,581
- Bye-bye.
- Okay, bye-bye.
1061
01:02:31,664 --> 01:02:34,167
Ho, ho, ho, ho.
1062
01:02:34,250 --> 01:02:36,335
- Yes!
- Oh, my God.
1063
01:02:36,419 --> 01:02:39,380
Oh, Fin Barre,
you're gonna be in a parade.
1064
01:02:39,464 --> 01:02:41,549
Need a little Santa dance.
1065
01:02:41,632 --> 01:02:43,342
Yeah.
1066
01:02:43,426 --> 01:02:47,638
I just didn't think they were
gonna make space for us.
1067
01:02:50,099 --> 01:02:54,437
And I'm so grateful
that she decided to.
1068
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,607
So exciting!
1069
01:03:04,030 --> 01:03:06,991
He's got plain black boots on.
1070
01:03:07,074 --> 01:03:09,202
And then the boots are going
to be completely black?
1071
01:03:09,285 --> 01:03:10,495
They'll be completely black,
1072
01:03:10,578 --> 01:03:12,663
but I will do
some little accents
1073
01:03:12,747 --> 01:03:14,874
to make him kind of have
a little shine.
1074
01:03:14,957 --> 01:03:16,667
No, it's great.
1075
01:03:16,751 --> 01:03:18,669
There's nothing like this
for me to buy.
1076
01:03:18,753 --> 01:03:21,339
- That's right.
- That is absolutely right.
1077
01:03:21,422 --> 01:03:22,965
So, after what happened
last year,
1078
01:03:23,049 --> 01:03:26,928
I decided to go ahead
and switch from inflatables
1079
01:03:27,011 --> 01:03:30,056
to having
a real-life representation
1080
01:03:30,139 --> 01:03:32,642
of our family.
1081
01:03:32,725 --> 01:03:35,520
We are definitely sending
a message here.
1082
01:03:35,603 --> 01:03:39,899
This is gonna be bigger,
better, Blacker than last year.
1083
01:03:50,493 --> 01:03:53,287
To review saved messages,
press 3.
1084
01:03:55,373 --> 01:03:56,582
I am calling you
1085
01:03:56,666 --> 01:04:00,503
about your Trans Santa event
1086
01:04:00,586 --> 01:04:02,421
on Thursday.
1087
01:04:02,505 --> 01:04:03,923
That is disgusting.
1088
01:04:04,006 --> 01:04:06,926
It makes you look
like a pedophile.
1089
01:04:07,009 --> 01:04:10,304
Trans people have mental issues,
1090
01:04:10,388 --> 01:04:13,933
and they should not be
around children.
1091
01:04:14,016 --> 01:04:17,687
You are disgusting
that you are doing this.
1092
01:04:17,770 --> 01:04:19,689
It's Marxist. It's Communist.
1093
01:04:19,772 --> 01:04:21,816
It's a way
to bring down our society.
1094
01:04:21,899 --> 01:04:24,652
It's a way to lure our children.
1095
01:04:24,735 --> 01:04:26,445
You are disgusting.
1096
01:04:26,529 --> 01:04:28,489
Just letting you know.
1097
01:04:29,865 --> 01:04:32,076
"Just letting you know."
1098
01:04:33,369 --> 01:04:37,873
There are currently
over 300 responses.
1099
01:04:37,957 --> 01:04:40,084
About three months ago,
1100
01:04:40,167 --> 01:04:41,669
we decided to host an event
1101
01:04:41,752 --> 01:04:44,880
with Youth Outlook and Illinois
Safe Space Alliance
1102
01:04:44,964 --> 01:04:45,964
for Trans Santa.
1103
01:04:46,007 --> 01:04:47,508
And this past week,
1104
01:04:47,592 --> 01:04:50,636
our church has been getting
emails and phone calls,
1105
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:54,807
Facebook messages,
typical hate messages, right?
1106
01:04:54,890 --> 01:04:57,852
Here's one... "This church
is inviting Trans Santa Claus"
1107
01:04:57,935 --> 01:05:00,646
"for children
to interact and learn with.
1108
01:05:00,730 --> 01:05:03,190
"You should be ashamed
that you bowed down
1109
01:05:03,274 --> 01:05:06,152
"to the woke, liberal minority
in society.
1110
01:05:06,235 --> 01:05:10,114
All comment and post
about this bull crap."
1111
01:05:11,824 --> 01:05:13,284
Yeah.
1112
01:05:13,367 --> 01:05:15,453
The Proud Boys did send a video
1113
01:05:15,536 --> 01:05:17,538
insinuating
that they might show up
1114
01:05:17,622 --> 01:05:18,873
because of Trans Santa.
1115
01:05:18,956 --> 01:05:21,417
- How does that make you feel?
- Afraid.
1116
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,797
You know, we know now that
The Proud Boys
1117
01:05:26,881 --> 01:05:30,009
played a big role in
what happened on January 6th.
1118
01:05:30,092 --> 01:05:31,761
We don't know
if they have weapons
1119
01:05:31,844 --> 01:05:34,555
or what they're capable of
and what their desire is.
1120
01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:37,350
So, yeah, kind of scary.
1121
01:05:47,193 --> 01:05:50,029
So we're doing an event tonight.
1122
01:05:50,112 --> 01:05:52,865
I'm pretty excited about it.
1123
01:05:52,948 --> 01:05:54,867
I want to reach kids
1124
01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:58,245
that might need to ask Santa
for something
1125
01:05:58,329 --> 01:06:02,792
that they couldn't ask
regular Santa for.
1126
01:06:02,875 --> 01:06:05,044
I changed up my outfit.
1127
01:06:05,127 --> 01:06:06,545
Yeah.
1128
01:06:06,629 --> 01:06:09,173
Power suit needed to happen.
1129
01:06:09,256 --> 01:06:10,800
I'm not sure
this is a power suit,
1130
01:06:10,883 --> 01:06:12,527
except for the fact
that it's super empowering.
1131
01:06:12,551 --> 01:06:14,762
It's much more lounge wear.
1132
01:06:14,845 --> 01:06:17,390
Although it was marketed
to be worn to work,
1133
01:06:17,473 --> 01:06:18,933
which I think is hilarious.
1134
01:06:19,016 --> 01:06:21,102
I did add the faux fur myself,
1135
01:06:21,185 --> 01:06:24,021
just to help
Claus it up a little bit.
1136
01:06:25,314 --> 01:06:27,608
And then for fun,
1137
01:06:27,692 --> 01:06:30,528
we just assumed that the
Clauses need corrective eye wear
1138
01:06:30,611 --> 01:06:33,572
'cause it feels
a little bit classy.
1139
01:06:35,157 --> 01:06:38,369
There's been some positive
and negative reactions.
1140
01:06:39,537 --> 01:06:41,831
Some people have been really
affirming and sort of like,
1141
01:06:41,914 --> 01:06:44,542
"This should have been
in place years ago.
1142
01:06:44,625 --> 01:06:47,253
Thank you
for filling this need."
1143
01:06:47,336 --> 01:06:49,922
And other people
reacted in fear.
1144
01:06:50,005 --> 01:06:52,258
This one.
1145
01:06:52,341 --> 01:06:54,468
"The Devil
isn't even hiding anymore.
1146
01:06:54,552 --> 01:06:56,303
Disgusting."
1147
01:06:56,387 --> 01:06:57,638
Wow.
1148
01:06:57,722 --> 01:07:00,099
- I'm sorry. What?
- Are you the Devil?
1149
01:07:00,182 --> 01:07:01,684
You do look very good in red.
1150
01:07:01,767 --> 01:07:06,147
- I do look good in red. I do.
- Yeah.
1151
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:08,107
I'm more scared for other people
1152
01:07:08,190 --> 01:07:10,901
than I am for myself,
if that makes sense.
1153
01:07:10,985 --> 01:07:12,027
Like...
1154
01:07:12,111 --> 01:07:13,988
We really hope that people
1155
01:07:14,071 --> 01:07:17,032
still are able to come
and be jolly
1156
01:07:17,116 --> 01:07:21,078
and not have to worry about
1157
01:07:21,162 --> 01:07:22,538
feeling unsafe.
1158
01:07:22,621 --> 01:07:24,290
Yeah.
1159
01:07:35,593 --> 01:07:37,344
Because of the threats
that we received,
1160
01:07:37,428 --> 01:07:40,514
we felt like it was the safest
for everybody to move venues.
1161
01:07:40,598 --> 01:07:42,475
We started looking
1162
01:07:42,558 --> 01:07:44,518
at hiring security
for the event.
1163
01:07:44,602 --> 01:07:47,313
And the only people who know
1164
01:07:47,396 --> 01:07:49,190
where this event
is happening tonight
1165
01:07:49,273 --> 01:07:51,066
are folks who registered
for the event.
1166
01:07:51,150 --> 01:07:53,986
- We were pissed.
- You know, we were mad.
1167
01:07:54,069 --> 01:07:55,821
Like, we didn't want
to back down,
1168
01:07:55,905 --> 01:07:57,573
and we wanted to continue
to host.
1169
01:07:57,656 --> 01:08:00,159
We had such a great space,
but at the same time,
1170
01:08:00,242 --> 01:08:02,536
we're never gonna compromise
the safety of people.
1171
01:08:02,620 --> 01:08:03,996
But it was also
really frustrating.
1172
01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:06,207
And sometimes
it feels like they won.
1173
01:08:06,290 --> 01:08:07,958
- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.
1174
01:08:08,042 --> 01:08:11,003
Do you want to sit with us
and have your photo taken?
1175
01:08:11,086 --> 01:08:13,088
I'm Trans Santa. Smile.
1176
01:08:13,172 --> 01:08:15,716
- Everyone be jolly!
- Be jolly!
1177
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,551
- Bye!
- Merry Christmas.
1178
01:08:17,635 --> 01:08:19,762
- It was nice meeting you.
- Thank you for coming.
1179
01:08:19,845 --> 01:08:21,013
Both: Bye.
1180
01:08:21,096 --> 01:08:22,473
You need to "ho, ho, ho" more.
1181
01:08:22,556 --> 01:08:23,599
Ho, ho, ho.
1182
01:08:23,682 --> 01:08:25,601
- Both: Hi.
- What's your name?
1183
01:08:25,684 --> 01:08:26,811
- My name's Ally.
- Ally.
1184
01:08:26,894 --> 01:08:28,187
- Pronouns?
- They, them.
1185
01:08:28,270 --> 01:08:31,315
- They, them. All right.
- I'm Trans Santa.
1186
01:08:31,398 --> 01:08:33,359
- I'm Dr. Claus.
- It's nice to meet you.
1187
01:08:33,442 --> 01:08:34,944
- Hi.
- It's nice to meet you, too.
1188
01:08:35,027 --> 01:08:36,630
Do you want to tell us
what you want for Christmas?
1189
01:08:36,654 --> 01:08:38,256
- Oh, we got to do photos.
- Oh, yeah. Photos, sorry.
1190
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:39,865
I just always want
to talk to people.
1191
01:08:39,949 --> 01:08:41,951
- Good, good.
- Okay. Okay.
1192
01:08:42,034 --> 01:08:44,745
I want to be able to come out
fully to my parents
1193
01:08:44,829 --> 01:08:46,413
and get a binder,
1194
01:08:46,497 --> 01:08:49,834
'cause the last time I asked,
they weren't...
1195
01:08:49,917 --> 01:08:51,710
Like, they
didn't really understand why.
1196
01:08:51,794 --> 01:08:53,587
And so I want to be able
to tell them,
1197
01:08:53,671 --> 01:08:55,214
this year, like, fully,
1198
01:08:55,297 --> 01:08:58,884
and I want to ask them
for Christmas, so
1199
01:08:58,968 --> 01:09:01,595
I know, like, when I got
my first binder...
1200
01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:02,805
Yeah.
1201
01:09:02,888 --> 01:09:06,225
I was like... so
1202
01:09:06,308 --> 01:09:09,728
it changed me
because it, like, empowered me
1203
01:09:09,812 --> 01:09:12,731
to have the body of the person
that I wanted to be.
1204
01:09:12,815 --> 01:09:15,776
I hope to empower you in that
step as much as possible.
1205
01:09:15,860 --> 01:09:17,736
It's very empowering
being in your presence.
1206
01:09:17,820 --> 01:09:20,281
- Yeah. Aw, thank you.
- Merry Christmas.
1207
01:09:20,364 --> 01:09:23,075
- Binder, it's gonna happen.
- I can feel it.
1208
01:09:23,158 --> 01:09:24,410
- Yeah.
- Yes.
1209
01:09:24,493 --> 01:09:26,829
Make it happen.
1210
01:09:29,248 --> 01:09:31,584
What is happening right now?
1211
01:09:34,378 --> 01:09:35,880
Hi, guys.
1212
01:09:35,963 --> 01:09:39,884
We came out tonight for
the Tranny Santa Claus meetup
1213
01:09:39,967 --> 01:09:43,304
'cause me and a few sisters,
we're like, "There's no way"
1214
01:09:43,387 --> 01:09:44,889
"that we're gonna allow this
to happen
1215
01:09:44,972 --> 01:09:47,600
without coming
and speaking the truth."
1216
01:09:47,683 --> 01:09:50,519
The enemy is not hiding,
and neither can we.
1217
01:09:50,603 --> 01:09:53,480
So we have to be bold.
1218
01:09:53,564 --> 01:09:54,607
Oh.
1219
01:09:56,192 --> 01:09:58,694
Camera crew's here.
1220
01:09:58,777 --> 01:10:00,446
- Hey, how's it going?
- Hi, it's going.
1221
01:10:00,529 --> 01:10:01,864
How are you today?
1222
01:10:01,947 --> 01:10:04,450
Wondering why you guys
turned up here tonight.
1223
01:10:04,533 --> 01:10:06,911
We're Christians,
and so we came out tonight
1224
01:10:06,994 --> 01:10:09,955
to just try to stand up
for the children.
1225
01:10:10,039 --> 01:10:13,375
This is a ploy to steal, kill,
1226
01:10:13,459 --> 01:10:16,879
and destroy somebody's identity
1227
01:10:16,962 --> 01:10:18,797
at a pivotal point in history
right now
1228
01:10:18,881 --> 01:10:20,633
where our country
is going downhill,
1229
01:10:20,716 --> 01:10:22,819
when they're trying to roll in
Communism and things like that.
1230
01:10:22,843 --> 01:10:24,553
We see Marxism,
and we just see them
1231
01:10:24,637 --> 01:10:26,513
trying to disassemble
our values.
1232
01:10:26,597 --> 01:10:28,933
The Holy Spirit told me
that I should just come out
1233
01:10:29,016 --> 01:10:31,268
and, you know,
represent the kingdom.
1234
01:10:31,352 --> 01:10:33,646
- Thanks, guys.
- Thank you.
1235
01:10:39,401 --> 01:10:40,527
Yeah.
1236
01:10:40,611 --> 01:10:42,613
- Yeah, it really was.
- It was?
1237
01:10:42,696 --> 01:10:44,615
- Yeah.
- That was the Holy Ghost.
1238
01:10:44,698 --> 01:10:46,951
It was.
1239
01:10:47,034 --> 01:10:50,162
We will stand up for the Lord
no matter what.
1240
01:10:50,246 --> 01:10:52,706
We do not care. We are the news.
1241
01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:55,960
We are the revolution.
We are the children of God.
1242
01:10:56,043 --> 01:11:00,839
We are the remnant.
We are the patriots!
1243
01:11:05,427 --> 01:11:07,030
You won't even let us watch
what's going on?
1244
01:11:07,054 --> 01:11:08,389
Is this a secret?
1245
01:11:08,472 --> 01:11:09,991
We haven't threatened anyone,
attacked anyone.
1246
01:11:10,015 --> 01:11:11,743
- We haven't done anything.
- We're not leaving.
1247
01:11:11,767 --> 01:11:12,893
Yeah. We're not leaving.
1248
01:11:12,977 --> 01:11:14,561
- Are you the Proud Boys?
- Yeah.
1249
01:11:14,645 --> 01:11:16,539
- Yeah, I'm a Proud Boy.
- See our shirts, right?
1250
01:11:16,563 --> 01:11:19,149
- Can you read?
- Sure, here, take it.
1251
01:11:19,233 --> 01:11:21,902
That's what we're about.
1252
01:11:21,986 --> 01:11:25,864
Proud Boys have never
killed anybody, ever, ever.
1253
01:11:25,948 --> 01:11:27,366
This is at the heart
1254
01:11:27,449 --> 01:11:29,702
of the cultural problem
in America today.
1255
01:11:29,785 --> 01:11:32,287
You guys moved the location,
or there would have been more.
1256
01:11:32,371 --> 01:11:34,415
But there's gonna be
more here soon.
1257
01:11:34,498 --> 01:11:36,959
We have a lot of people
that live in Naperville,
1258
01:11:37,042 --> 01:11:38,127
so good luck.
1259
01:11:41,130 --> 01:11:42,881
It's okay.
1260
01:11:50,222 --> 01:11:52,141
Ho, ho, ho!
1261
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,897
We are protesting
the indoctrination of children.
1262
01:11:58,981 --> 01:12:00,524
- We're elves.
- We're elves.
1263
01:12:00,607 --> 01:12:02,460
Yeah, we're Proud Boy elves,
and we're protesting
1264
01:12:02,484 --> 01:12:05,821
the outsourcing
of our jobs and our boss's.
1265
01:12:05,904 --> 01:12:09,742
This church is infected
1266
01:12:09,825 --> 01:12:11,243
with evil.
1267
01:12:11,326 --> 01:12:13,704
We don't even know
what a transgender Santa Claus
1268
01:12:13,787 --> 01:12:15,247
looks like.
1269
01:12:15,331 --> 01:12:19,043
You know, if you Google it,
this is what comes up...
1270
01:12:19,126 --> 01:12:21,086
A woman with a beard.
1271
01:12:21,170 --> 01:12:23,464
They're destroying Santa Claus.
1272
01:12:23,547 --> 01:12:27,384
And, really, the Bible that
I read says that this is a sin.
1273
01:12:28,844 --> 01:12:30,095
Okay.
1274
01:12:30,179 --> 01:12:32,598
Santa's not in the Bible.
1275
01:12:34,099 --> 01:12:35,809
- Merry Christmas!
- Merry Christmas!
1276
01:12:35,893 --> 01:12:38,353
- Hi. Welcome.
- Hi.
1277
01:12:38,437 --> 01:12:39,688
- Jolly.
- Say "jolly."
1278
01:12:39,772 --> 01:12:43,067
You're propagating division.
1279
01:12:43,150 --> 01:12:45,652
Even worse,
you're propagating division
1280
01:12:45,736 --> 01:12:47,362
to children.
1281
01:12:47,446 --> 01:12:48,530
I think it's horrific.
1282
01:12:48,614 --> 01:12:51,617
Say "cookies." all: Cookies.
1283
01:12:51,700 --> 01:12:54,620
That's what the Proud Boys
are... they're hate.
1284
01:12:54,703 --> 01:12:56,997
How did they find us?
Like, we kept this a secret.
1285
01:12:57,081 --> 01:12:58,457
So I don't know
how they got here.
1286
01:12:58,540 --> 01:12:59,792
And a little concerned.
1287
01:12:59,875 --> 01:13:02,961
What do you call a fear
of Santa Claus?
1288
01:13:03,045 --> 01:13:04,588
Claus-trophobia.
1289
01:13:04,671 --> 01:13:06,423
- Oh!
- Yes, that's a good one.
1290
01:13:06,507 --> 01:13:08,967
- I don't like Claus-trophobia.
- We're gonna steal that one.
1291
01:13:09,051 --> 01:13:10,719
Thank you guys
for coming out, yeah.
1292
01:13:10,803 --> 01:13:12,197
- Can I hug you or no?
- Yeah, for sure.
1293
01:13:12,221 --> 01:13:14,973
Yeah. Both: Merry Christmas.
1294
01:13:15,057 --> 01:13:17,142
All right. Merry Christmas.
1295
01:13:17,226 --> 01:13:18,352
Merry Christmas.
1296
01:13:18,435 --> 01:13:20,896
- Take care.
- Yeah. Take care.
1297
01:13:20,979 --> 01:13:22,022
Yes.
1298
01:13:28,904 --> 01:13:32,407
The thing that camp
definitely helped me grow in
1299
01:13:32,491 --> 01:13:34,368
was my confidence level.
1300
01:13:34,451 --> 01:13:38,372
So I decided to bleach my beard
1301
01:13:38,455 --> 01:13:40,332
and truly become Santa Claus.
1302
01:13:43,919 --> 01:13:47,464
Not too bad. Not too bad at all.
1303
01:13:51,593 --> 01:13:55,347
- Okay, I may need help, Chris.
- Okay.
1304
01:13:57,015 --> 01:14:00,978
- Oh, yeah, that's my boy.
- Yeah.
1305
01:14:01,061 --> 01:14:04,356
What do you think
a certain person might think?
1306
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:06,692
They're gonna hate it.
1307
01:14:06,775 --> 01:14:09,194
Honestly,
I wouldn't be surprised
1308
01:14:09,278 --> 01:14:11,363
if you didn't get
another letter.
1309
01:14:13,031 --> 01:14:16,869
I love it. They're gonna go,
"What the hell?"
1310
01:14:16,952 --> 01:14:22,082
Eh, honestly, they already
despise my existence.
1311
01:14:23,625 --> 01:14:25,711
I'm on my property line.
1312
01:14:29,131 --> 01:14:31,508
You don't like it, you move.
1313
01:14:37,848 --> 01:14:39,391
What you think?
1314
01:14:39,474 --> 01:14:42,227
It's so cute. I love it.
1315
01:14:43,937 --> 01:14:47,316
We're here, we're Black,
and we're proud of it.
1316
01:14:47,399 --> 01:14:49,610
And we ain't going nowhere.
1317
01:14:58,410 --> 01:15:00,496
I don't know where the fourth...
1318
01:15:00,579 --> 01:15:02,015
- It was just right here.
- D-ring is.
1319
01:15:02,039 --> 01:15:04,082
When we heard
what happened to Chris,
1320
01:15:04,166 --> 01:15:06,251
my first reaction
was that I was really mad.
1321
01:15:06,335 --> 01:15:09,254
And then my second reaction
was, "Where can I get one?"
1322
01:15:09,338 --> 01:15:12,257
- Take off.
- Caroline, no, no, no, no.
1323
01:15:12,341 --> 01:15:14,927
- I do like this one better.
- I do, too. It's bigger.
1324
01:15:15,010 --> 01:15:16,428
- Yeah.
- It's better.
1325
01:15:16,511 --> 01:15:17,763
An update to a story
1326
01:15:17,846 --> 01:15:19,431
we shared
with you last holiday season.
1327
01:15:19,514 --> 01:15:21,201
Neighbors are putting out
their own Black Santa
1328
01:15:21,225 --> 01:15:22,559
to show their support.
1329
01:15:22,643 --> 01:15:24,204
They're calling them
solidarity Santas.
1330
01:15:24,228 --> 01:15:26,605
Black Santas popping up
everywhere.
1331
01:15:26,688 --> 01:15:28,315
- We need another rope.
- No, look,
1332
01:15:28,398 --> 01:15:30,609
I've got one in back and one
in front on the same rope.
1333
01:15:30,692 --> 01:15:31,610
On the same rope?
1334
01:15:31,693 --> 01:15:33,362
- Here we go.
- Go.
1335
01:15:33,445 --> 01:15:37,950
So I showed her the copy
of the letter, and she said...
1336
01:15:38,033 --> 01:15:40,827
Go get the biggest, Blackest
Santa you can find.
1337
01:15:42,037 --> 01:15:43,497
I anticipate there'll be
1338
01:15:43,580 --> 01:15:45,290
a lot more going up
over the weekend.
1339
01:15:45,374 --> 01:15:47,376
And I think people will go
to work Monday morning
1340
01:15:47,459 --> 01:15:50,587
with most of this neighborhood
covered in Black Santas.
1341
01:16:05,102 --> 01:16:07,229
Got a cider doughnut?
1342
01:16:07,312 --> 01:16:08,647
Oh, these are still hot.
1343
01:16:08,730 --> 01:16:10,649
I'll put you on top
of the good-girl list.
1344
01:16:10,732 --> 01:16:11,817
Thank you.
1345
01:16:16,238 --> 01:16:20,826
To be a good Mrs. Claus,
you have to have this talent,
1346
01:16:20,909 --> 01:16:25,247
have you, to be able to look
a small child in the eye
1347
01:16:25,330 --> 01:16:26,999
and lie your pants off to 'em,
1348
01:16:27,082 --> 01:16:30,752
you know, take them to that
crazy world where reindeer fly
1349
01:16:30,836 --> 01:16:33,297
and Santa goes up
and down the chimney.
1350
01:16:35,424 --> 01:16:38,385
When their eyes are sparkling
and their mouth is going...
1351
01:16:38,468 --> 01:16:40,846
"Ooh," you know you've got 'em.
1352
01:16:40,929 --> 01:16:42,681
You know that Santa's
has got reindeer
1353
01:16:42,764 --> 01:16:44,016
up at the North Pole, right?
1354
01:16:44,099 --> 01:16:45,392
- Both: Yeah.
- Well, do you know
1355
01:16:45,475 --> 01:16:49,187
that he also has
a couple of unicorns?
1356
01:16:49,271 --> 01:16:51,398
- What?
- He's got three.
1357
01:16:51,481 --> 01:16:53,108
And do you know that unicorns...
1358
01:16:53,191 --> 01:16:56,194
They lose their baby horn
when they're about six,
1359
01:16:56,278 --> 01:16:58,864
and then they grow
their big adult horn.
1360
01:16:58,947 --> 01:17:00,574
Come look at this.
1361
01:17:00,657 --> 01:17:03,702
This is a real unicorn horn.
1362
01:17:03,785 --> 01:17:06,872
If you touch it and make
a wish, it may come true.
1363
01:17:08,332 --> 01:17:10,375
Do you have a wish?
1364
01:17:10,459 --> 01:17:12,544
Mrs. Claus, what would you say
1365
01:17:12,627 --> 01:17:14,713
to young girls
about speaking up?
1366
01:17:14,796 --> 01:17:16,006
Absolutely.
1367
01:17:16,089 --> 01:17:19,092
You know how boys
speak up all the time?
1368
01:17:19,176 --> 01:17:22,596
They're very loud
and authoritative.
1369
01:17:22,679 --> 01:17:25,140
Well, young girls
need to speak up
1370
01:17:25,223 --> 01:17:26,808
and say what's on their mind.
1371
01:17:26,892 --> 01:17:29,478
So that's why I spoke up
to Santa and said,
1372
01:17:29,561 --> 01:17:31,688
"You know, I've been quiet
all these years
1373
01:17:31,772 --> 01:17:35,567
"and being the good little
wife, but now it's my turn.
1374
01:17:35,650 --> 01:17:39,112
See how you like
sitting at home."
1375
01:17:46,203 --> 01:17:47,621
I've done my checklist.
1376
01:17:47,704 --> 01:17:48,955
- Okay.
- I got my hat.
1377
01:17:49,039 --> 01:17:50,399
I got my cane.
I got my candy cane.
1378
01:17:50,457 --> 01:17:52,334
I also checked
with the management
1379
01:17:52,417 --> 01:17:56,588
to make sure
that we have two Zambonis...
1380
01:17:56,671 --> 01:17:58,423
- Okay.
- One for you, one for me...
1381
01:17:58,507 --> 01:18:00,425
- All right.
- The same size.
1382
01:18:00,509 --> 01:18:03,595
As you know, Mrs. Claus,
with coming up in the world...
1383
01:18:03,679 --> 01:18:05,222
Is she? Okay.
1384
01:18:05,305 --> 01:18:08,433
You know, Mrs. Claus is not
the warm-up act for Santa.
1385
01:18:08,517 --> 01:18:11,561
- You know?
- Yes, she is.
1386
01:18:11,645 --> 01:18:15,982
How about this?
We all deserve respect, period.
1387
01:18:16,066 --> 01:18:17,275
I'm done.
1388
01:18:19,528 --> 01:18:22,114
Do we know where he went?
1389
01:18:22,197 --> 01:18:23,615
Where did he go?
1390
01:18:23,698 --> 01:18:26,451
- Respect.
- We're here to have a good time.
1391
01:18:26,535 --> 01:18:28,286
- Yeah.
- Not to piss Santa off,
1392
01:18:28,370 --> 01:18:30,038
'cause Santa's pissed off.
1393
01:18:30,122 --> 01:18:32,541
And you don't want
Santa pissed off.
1394
01:18:32,624 --> 01:18:35,127
This shit of equal pay
or equal rights...
1395
01:18:35,210 --> 01:18:36,962
You earn your rights
in this world.
1396
01:18:37,045 --> 01:18:39,881
I don't care if you're male
or female... you earn them.
1397
01:18:39,965 --> 01:18:42,342
Well.
1398
01:18:52,394 --> 01:18:53,687
Santa and Mrs. Claus...
1399
01:18:53,770 --> 01:18:57,732
It's a complicated relationship.
1400
01:18:57,816 --> 01:19:00,485
All Santas don't have
a Mrs. Claus.
1401
01:19:00,569 --> 01:19:02,112
So, when I work with them,
1402
01:19:02,195 --> 01:19:04,448
they don't really know
what to do with me.
1403
01:19:04,531 --> 01:19:05,574
Ooh.
1404
01:19:07,701 --> 01:19:11,371
Mrs. Claus is getting
a little fan base,
1405
01:19:11,455 --> 01:19:13,331
which is very exciting.
1406
01:19:15,041 --> 01:19:18,753
It's pretty clear, Mrs. Claus
is getting more respect.
1407
01:19:18,837 --> 01:19:21,006
We're getting more equal pay.
1408
01:19:21,089 --> 01:19:25,427
We're getting equal-size
chairs, equal Zambonis.
1409
01:19:28,597 --> 01:19:31,683
All right, get me off the ice.
1410
01:19:31,766 --> 01:19:33,435
We're done. Move on.
1411
01:19:38,648 --> 01:19:40,317
We still have a long way to go,
1412
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:43,320
but we've come a long way, baby.
1413
01:20:02,464 --> 01:20:05,383
- Does he have long johns on?
- Yes.
1414
01:20:05,467 --> 01:20:08,261
We're gonna get you
all Santa-fied.
1415
01:20:08,345 --> 01:20:10,388
Look at that belly.
1416
01:20:10,472 --> 01:20:12,057
Can you give me a "ho, ho, ho"?
1417
01:20:12,140 --> 01:20:14,434
Ho, ho, ho!
1418
01:20:16,853 --> 01:20:19,439
Can you see okay and everything?
1419
01:20:20,482 --> 01:20:22,567
Okay, dude.
1420
01:20:22,651 --> 01:20:25,237
All right. You're welcome.
1421
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:26,655
I love you, too, honey.
1422
01:20:26,738 --> 01:20:29,407
Come on. Come stand up.
1423
01:20:29,491 --> 01:20:32,160
- You know what?
- I'm really thankful
1424
01:20:32,244 --> 01:20:36,081
that you are thankful
for me, okay?
1425
01:20:36,164 --> 01:20:38,083
I think it's going to be
a lot of fun
1426
01:20:38,166 --> 01:20:39,501
walking down there.
1427
01:20:39,584 --> 01:20:41,545
It's going to be a lot, lot of,
lot of fun.
1428
01:20:41,628 --> 01:20:44,839
- Thank you for coming.
- Ready? One, two, three.
1429
01:20:45,924 --> 01:20:47,425
Go. Go, go, go.
1430
01:20:54,474 --> 01:20:57,602
How are you reindeer doing?
1431
01:20:57,686 --> 01:21:00,480
Okay, Fin, we're going
around the corner now,
1432
01:21:00,564 --> 01:21:02,941
so you got to steer us
the right way.
1433
01:21:03,024 --> 01:21:05,277
Here we go, Santa!
1434
01:21:07,445 --> 01:21:09,072
Yes!
1435
01:21:17,581 --> 01:21:19,332
Ho, ho, ho!
1436
01:21:22,294 --> 01:21:26,256
Santa! Santa! Santa!
1437
01:21:26,339 --> 01:21:27,716
Santa! Santa!
1438
01:21:27,799 --> 01:21:30,468
- It's so beautiful.
- Oh, my God, I'm gonna cry.
1439
01:21:30,552 --> 01:21:32,470
It's, like, super emotional.
1440
01:21:32,554 --> 01:21:34,222
I'm just so happy.
1441
01:21:37,058 --> 01:21:38,810
Just all these people
out to see him,
1442
01:21:38,893 --> 01:21:42,063
and I just didn't know
it was possible.
1443
01:22:00,624 --> 01:22:03,335
Looking good, Santa.
1444
01:22:03,418 --> 01:22:05,920
There were doctors who said
he'd never talk or do anything,
1445
01:22:06,004 --> 01:22:07,255
just be a vegetable.
1446
01:22:07,339 --> 01:22:09,257
But I think
he's doing pretty good.
1447
01:22:09,341 --> 01:22:11,509
- He's up in the sleigh!
- He's flying!
1448
01:22:11,593 --> 01:22:14,679
He's flying
in his magical sleigh!
1449
01:22:14,763 --> 01:22:16,723
- Santa!
- Look at him. Look at him.
1450
01:22:16,806 --> 01:22:20,977
Look how happy he is.
Look how happy he is.
1451
01:22:21,061 --> 01:22:23,647
Oh, my God.
1452
01:22:25,357 --> 01:22:27,359
Whoo-hoo! Santa! Santa!
1453
01:22:27,442 --> 01:22:29,444
Santa! Santa! Santa!
1454
01:22:29,527 --> 01:22:33,239
- Santa Fin, we love you!
- Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
1455
01:22:33,323 --> 01:22:37,410
Santa! Santa! Santa! Santa!
1456
01:22:40,830 --> 01:22:42,957
I'll put it back here.
1457
01:22:45,418 --> 01:22:47,879
Here we go.
1458
01:22:47,962 --> 01:22:49,547
Baby.
1459
01:22:49,631 --> 01:22:53,802
It does not smell good.
1460
01:22:53,885 --> 01:22:57,013
It smells just like a perm.
1461
01:23:01,976 --> 01:23:05,271
After camp, Chris definitely
stepped up his game.
1462
01:23:05,355 --> 01:23:07,899
You could see the joy
and the excitement.
1463
01:23:07,982 --> 01:23:12,195
The little kid inside of him
was having a field day.
1464
01:23:13,988 --> 01:23:18,201
In a few hours,
it's my first huge Santa gig.
1465
01:23:18,284 --> 01:23:19,994
Putting in a little bit
of conditioner
1466
01:23:20,078 --> 01:23:22,747
to get this prime time ready.
1467
01:23:24,249 --> 01:23:27,085
And it was just comical
'cause it's watching
1468
01:23:27,168 --> 01:23:30,672
your 30-something-year-old
husband now desire
1469
01:23:30,755 --> 01:23:34,509
to look like an older man.
1470
01:23:36,553 --> 01:23:39,806
My daughter is super proud
of me for becoming Santa.
1471
01:23:39,889 --> 01:23:43,059
She tells all her friends.
1472
01:23:43,143 --> 01:23:46,479
She tells anybody,
"My daddy's Santa."
1473
01:23:46,563 --> 01:23:49,274
Daddy.
1474
01:23:49,357 --> 01:23:52,152
This is my daddy.
1475
01:23:52,235 --> 01:23:55,780
It can't help but make
you feel just huge.
1476
01:23:57,365 --> 01:24:00,660
Ah. Daddy fell under the tree.
1477
01:24:15,717 --> 01:24:19,345
I'm proud of the man
that he has become.
1478
01:24:19,429 --> 01:24:22,056
His father, my mother,
his grandfather,
1479
01:24:22,140 --> 01:24:23,850
all the people
that have gone on,
1480
01:24:23,933 --> 01:24:26,060
they would be real proud of him.
1481
01:24:26,144 --> 01:24:27,729
- Is it?
- Which is...
1482
01:24:29,272 --> 01:24:31,524
That's why you're Super Santa
with the cape.
1483
01:24:31,608 --> 01:24:33,735
- All right, get ready.
- Kids are coming.
1484
01:24:33,818 --> 01:24:35,695
Your first customers.
1485
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,532
- Hey!
- No. No, no, no!
1486
01:24:39,616 --> 01:24:43,495
No, it's okay.
1487
01:24:43,578 --> 01:24:46,039
Oh, come on, Lennox.
1488
01:24:46,122 --> 01:24:48,792
This will be a souvenir
for Grandma.
1489
01:24:48,875 --> 01:24:51,503
Got to warm up. It's fine.
1490
01:24:54,923 --> 01:24:58,134
I have no idea
how this is gonna turn out.
1491
01:24:58,218 --> 01:25:02,305
But I know that I have to do it.
1492
01:25:02,931 --> 01:25:05,350
People were
1493
01:25:05,433 --> 01:25:07,477
not necessarily enthusiastic
about him coming,
1494
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:09,854
I guess,
is the best way to put it.
1495
01:25:09,938 --> 01:25:12,190
People were, like,
genuinely confused, like,
1496
01:25:12,273 --> 01:25:14,526
"Why would you have
a Black Santa?
1497
01:25:14,609 --> 01:25:17,529
Why would you...
He's supposed to be white."
1498
01:25:19,989 --> 01:25:22,200
I can assume that probably
some people didn't show up
1499
01:25:22,283 --> 01:25:24,702
because there was a Black Santa.
1500
01:25:24,786 --> 01:25:26,746
And
1501
01:25:26,830 --> 01:25:30,208
it's a little unfair,
but it is how it is.
1502
01:25:30,291 --> 01:25:33,503
Maybe I don't look like
every other Santa,
1503
01:25:33,586 --> 01:25:35,380
but I don't want to.
1504
01:25:41,427 --> 01:25:44,222
We came out today
to meet Black Santa.
1505
01:25:44,305 --> 01:25:46,182
How are you doing?
1506
01:25:46,266 --> 01:25:48,184
Aw, thank you.
1507
01:25:48,268 --> 01:25:51,229
He may not understand it
right now, but one day he will.
1508
01:25:51,312 --> 01:25:54,023
So I want him
to experience that.
1509
01:25:57,068 --> 01:25:59,696
I just think it'll be
a good memory for her,
1510
01:25:59,779 --> 01:26:02,991
see that her mom,
like, really took the time out
1511
01:26:03,074 --> 01:26:05,910
to find a Black Santa.
1512
01:26:05,994 --> 01:26:07,412
Aw!
1513
01:26:07,495 --> 01:26:09,205
So precious.
1514
01:26:09,289 --> 01:26:12,166
She loves taking pictures, too.
1515
01:26:12,250 --> 01:26:13,334
Hey.
1516
01:26:14,794 --> 01:26:17,171
Hey, look at Grandma.
1517
01:26:21,009 --> 01:26:23,094
- I've...
- both: Never seen a Black Santa.
1518
01:26:23,177 --> 01:26:24,971
- Well, I'm here.
- Hey.
1519
01:26:25,054 --> 01:26:27,056
I just know
I'm not on that naughty list,
1520
01:26:27,140 --> 01:26:29,684
- so that's all that matters.
- Hi, Santa!
1521
01:26:29,767 --> 01:26:30,810
Hey.
1522
01:26:32,812 --> 01:26:36,232
Well, I mean, I hadn't either
until I became Santa.
1523
01:26:36,316 --> 01:26:39,193
- All right, ho, ho to you.
- Bro, ho, ho.
1524
01:26:39,277 --> 01:26:40,486
- Bro, ho, ho.
- Yes.
1525
01:26:40,570 --> 01:26:42,363
- All right!
- Bro, ho, ho.
1526
01:26:46,034 --> 01:26:50,079
When I was little,
Santa was white.
1527
01:26:50,163 --> 01:26:53,249
It was whatever someone else
decided Santa to be.
1528
01:26:53,333 --> 01:26:56,461
I heard that there was
gonna be a Black Santa.
1529
01:26:56,544 --> 01:27:00,214
I decided, "We got to
come here and see Black Santa."
1530
01:27:00,298 --> 01:27:01,841
- Hey.
- Oh. Hey.
1531
01:27:01,925 --> 01:27:04,469
It's important
that my grandson sees
1532
01:27:04,552 --> 01:27:07,555
that Santa can be someone
that's African American.
1533
01:27:09,766 --> 01:27:10,951
There were families
that traveled
1534
01:27:10,975 --> 01:27:13,770
over 300 miles to be here.
1535
01:27:13,853 --> 01:27:15,271
That was very rewarding.
1536
01:27:15,355 --> 01:27:16,856
Thank you so much.
1537
01:27:19,192 --> 01:27:23,821
But it definitely also gave me
a bit of a sense of sadness
1538
01:27:23,905 --> 01:27:27,075
that there are not
Black Santas closer to them.
1539
01:27:38,544 --> 01:27:41,005
Tonight I'll be doing what's
called a "sneak and peek."
1540
01:27:41,089 --> 01:27:43,299
It's a Christmas Eve visit.
1541
01:27:43,383 --> 01:27:46,886
And Santa sneaks into the house,
1542
01:27:46,970 --> 01:27:48,972
the parents wake
the children up,
1543
01:27:49,055 --> 01:27:52,308
and they get to come down
and watch Santa
1544
01:27:52,392 --> 01:27:55,478
as he delivers the presents.
1545
01:28:03,653 --> 01:28:07,699
When I have a visit with a child
1546
01:28:07,782 --> 01:28:10,910
I want them to continue
to believe in Santa.
1547
01:28:29,303 --> 01:28:31,681
I hear bells.
1548
01:28:31,764 --> 01:28:33,725
Who else can hear a bell?
1549
01:28:43,735 --> 01:28:45,361
Santa.
1550
01:28:50,867 --> 01:28:53,536
This is gonna be your new home.
1551
01:28:53,619 --> 01:28:57,248
It's not as cold here
as the North Pole, but...
1552
01:28:57,331 --> 01:28:59,083
Mmm.
1553
01:28:59,167 --> 01:29:02,378
Chocolate chip, my favorite.
1554
01:29:07,133 --> 01:29:11,262
I think there's
a creature stirring.
1555
01:29:17,101 --> 01:29:20,772
I think Santas,
when they pass away...
1556
01:29:22,440 --> 01:29:25,401
They're... they're still here...
1557
01:29:25,485 --> 01:29:28,112
Three, two, one, cheese.
1558
01:29:28,196 --> 01:29:31,282
Because the memories
that families have of them...
1559
01:29:31,365 --> 01:29:34,077
Say "cookies." all: Cookies.
1560
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:36,829
Children have of them,
1561
01:29:36,913 --> 01:29:38,623
their friends have of them
1562
01:29:38,706 --> 01:29:41,459
are still there, and they
continue to grow every year.
1563
01:29:41,542 --> 01:29:44,128
Santa! Santa! Santa!
1564
01:29:44,212 --> 01:29:47,423
I'm so proud of what the new
Clauses have accomplished.
1565
01:29:47,507 --> 01:29:49,050
Ho, ho, ho, ho!
1566
01:29:49,133 --> 01:29:51,677
There's still a lot of work
to be done
1567
01:29:51,761 --> 01:29:55,932
and in opening the door
for more diversity.
1568
01:29:56,015 --> 01:29:59,811
But this year I think we made
a lot of progress.
1569
01:30:03,272 --> 01:30:05,942
- What do you see over there?
- Santa!
1570
01:30:06,025 --> 01:30:07,777
- Oh, my gosh.
- Is he really brown?
1571
01:30:07,860 --> 01:30:10,905
Yeah.
1572
01:30:10,988 --> 01:30:14,659
If whoever wrote that letter
truly has a problem
1573
01:30:14,742 --> 01:30:16,953
with Black Santas,
1574
01:30:17,036 --> 01:30:19,539
they're really gonna hate this.
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