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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,399 hello and welcome to Rome we are here 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,400 for the funeral of Pope Benedict XVI we 3 00:00:05,441 --> 00:00:07,740 just visited the body but not only that 4 00:00:07,781 --> 00:00:09,300 we've got an interview with Bishop 5 00:00:09,341 --> 00:00:10,920 Schneider who himself couldn't be here 6 00:00:10,961 --> 00:00:12,480 but he had some amazing things to say 7 00:00:12,521 --> 00:00:14,940 about Pope Benedict his legacy as well 8 00:00:14,981 --> 00:00:17,520 as his last will and testament where he 9 00:00:17,561 --> 00:00:20,160 said do not be afraid and do not be 10 00:00:20,201 --> 00:00:21,779 confused we've got our room 11 00:00:21,820 --> 00:00:23,279 correspondent Michael Haynes with us 12 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,340 we're going to talk about the legacy of 13 00:00:26,381 --> 00:00:30,840 Pope Benedict and new news about what 14 00:00:30,881 --> 00:00:33,300 archbish genspine who was a secretary to 15 00:00:33,341 --> 00:00:36,180 Pope Benedict said about his broken 16 00:00:36,221 --> 00:00:38,640 heart in these last days we are here 17 00:00:38,681 --> 00:00:41,120 right in front of Saint Peter's Basilica 18 00:00:41,161 --> 00:00:43,739 our main life site to Rome 19 00:00:43,780 --> 00:00:45,480 correspondents Michael Haynes was with 20 00:00:45,521 --> 00:00:49,020 me just now as we visited the body of 21 00:00:49,061 --> 00:00:51,899 Pope Benedict XVI prayed right in front 22 00:00:51,940 --> 00:00:54,899 of his uh him lying in state with the 23 00:00:54,940 --> 00:00:57,660 cue of thousands and thousands of people 24 00:00:57,701 --> 00:00:59,280 who've come to see him over the last 25 00:00:59,321 --> 00:01:01,680 couple of days the the viewing of the 26 00:01:01,721 --> 00:01:05,100 body is going to end tonight at 7 pm Jim 27 00:01:05,141 --> 00:01:08,100 Hale just flew in here and just made it 28 00:01:08,141 --> 00:01:10,380 so he could join us and thanks be to God 29 00:01:10,421 --> 00:01:11,700 there's a story behind that but we're 30 00:01:11,741 --> 00:01:14,100 gonna have to tell that another time I 31 00:01:14,141 --> 00:01:16,260 want to call in Michael Haynes our other 32 00:01:16,301 --> 00:01:18,479 Rome correspondent Lewis knuffy's also 33 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,159 coming in but he's only arriving tonight 34 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,159 Michael come on in here good to see you 35 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,020 and um 36 00:01:25,061 --> 00:01:27,840 come on over here a little bit so tell 37 00:01:27,881 --> 00:01:30,600 us you wrote a beautiful obituary that 38 00:01:30,641 --> 00:01:31,979 we published right away at live site 39 00:01:32,020 --> 00:01:33,119 news 40 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,560 um give me some of the highlights from 41 00:01:34,601 --> 00:01:36,900 that the main highlight which struck out 42 00:01:36,941 --> 00:01:38,820 to me was pipe Benedict's early desire 43 00:01:38,861 --> 00:01:40,500 to to become a priest I mean that was 44 00:01:40,541 --> 00:01:42,840 something which really stuck out from a 45 00:01:42,881 --> 00:01:44,520 very very young age we're talking as a 46 00:01:44,561 --> 00:01:47,280 child and you see those pictures of him 47 00:01:47,321 --> 00:01:49,140 saying mass is a young priest something 48 00:01:49,181 --> 00:01:50,939 which I think strikes you so much now 49 00:01:50,980 --> 00:01:52,560 particularly today 50 00:01:52,601 --> 00:01:54,659 um so I think that was one of the main 51 00:01:54,700 --> 00:01:56,759 the main points and possibly why uh 52 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,140 we're addressing with someone else today 53 00:01:58,181 --> 00:02:01,079 describing Pope Benedict as um as a 54 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,180 cardinal who is the priest's Cardinal I 55 00:02:03,221 --> 00:02:04,860 think maybe that was why he was admired 56 00:02:04,901 --> 00:02:07,079 so much I loved by priests because he 57 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,539 was a priest himself and he committed 58 00:02:09,580 --> 00:02:12,420 himself to his Priestly life I think 59 00:02:12,461 --> 00:02:14,099 that was something which possibly he 60 00:02:14,140 --> 00:02:16,200 took through uh through his sort of 61 00:02:16,241 --> 00:02:17,580 ecclesiastical career if you're like 62 00:02:17,621 --> 00:02:19,379 into the CDF here at the Vatican as well 63 00:02:19,420 --> 00:02:22,020 beautiful one of the things he is known 64 00:02:22,061 --> 00:02:24,720 best known for among pro-life circles is 65 00:02:24,761 --> 00:02:26,459 he his work that he actually did under 66 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:28,860 John Paul II as you know and you wrote 67 00:02:28,901 --> 00:02:31,680 about under John Paul II in 2004 the U.S 68 00:02:31,721 --> 00:02:33,000 Bishops were having a debate about 69 00:02:33,041 --> 00:02:34,860 communion for pro-abortion politicians 70 00:02:34,901 --> 00:02:37,980 and he then as the head of the CDF the 71 00:02:38,021 --> 00:02:39,239 congregation for the doctrine of Faith 72 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,599 as Joseph ratzinger wrote to the Bishops 73 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:43,739 of the United States unfortunately the 74 00:02:43,780 --> 00:02:45,420 head of that committee was Cardinal 75 00:02:45,461 --> 00:02:48,000 mccarrick at the time so that's another 76 00:02:48,041 --> 00:02:49,440 story but nonetheless he wrote them 77 00:02:49,481 --> 00:02:52,560 saying that pro-abortion politicians 78 00:02:52,601 --> 00:02:55,500 must be denied Holy Communion some more 79 00:02:55,541 --> 00:02:57,480 details on that the letter that he he 80 00:02:57,521 --> 00:02:59,879 wrote I think is sadly become one of the 81 00:02:59,920 --> 00:03:02,700 Lost pieces of work that is just being 82 00:03:02,741 --> 00:03:05,580 buried um I think it was something of a 83 00:03:05,621 --> 00:03:07,800 bygone era at such a Clarion call a just 84 00:03:07,841 --> 00:03:09,599 nice and clear straightforward this is 85 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:11,340 the Catholic faith if you were promoting 86 00:03:11,381 --> 00:03:12,540 abortion which is the murder of The 87 00:03:12,581 --> 00:03:15,239 Unborn you cannot receive communion and 88 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,860 that's I think something which probably 89 00:03:16,901 --> 00:03:18,480 maybe a German characteristic straight 90 00:03:18,521 --> 00:03:20,040 down the line from that particular point 91 00:03:20,081 --> 00:03:22,140 which the church needs this church 92 00:03:22,181 --> 00:03:23,940 always needs and still needs but 93 00:03:23,981 --> 00:03:25,920 particularly at that time if you want to 94 00:03:25,961 --> 00:03:27,239 see that document by the way go to 95 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,280 lifesite news and search up worthiness 96 00:03:29,321 --> 00:03:30,840 to receive Holy Communion that's the 97 00:03:30,881 --> 00:03:32,420 document that Cardinal ratzinger wrote 98 00:03:32,461 --> 00:03:35,400 very clear there he also lays out there 99 00:03:35,441 --> 00:03:37,379 something that played out later in his 100 00:03:37,420 --> 00:03:40,140 own pontificate about the non-essentials 101 00:03:40,181 --> 00:03:41,940 this refers to in in his letter 102 00:03:41,981 --> 00:03:44,280 worthiness receive Holy Communion he was 103 00:03:44,321 --> 00:03:47,159 making a distinction between uh things 104 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,400 like just war or the death penalty 105 00:03:50,441 --> 00:03:52,680 versus things like euthanasian abortion 106 00:03:52,721 --> 00:03:55,260 he was saying whereas good Catholics can 107 00:03:55,301 --> 00:03:57,659 disagree with one another on the points 108 00:03:57,700 --> 00:04:00,420 about having a war or not or how to deal 109 00:04:00,461 --> 00:04:02,640 with the poor or or the death penalty 110 00:04:02,681 --> 00:04:04,860 even they can't disagree on things like 111 00:04:04,901 --> 00:04:06,720 euthanasian abortion which are totally 112 00:04:06,761 --> 00:04:08,580 clear they're essential teachings and 113 00:04:08,621 --> 00:04:10,140 then there are non-essential teachings 114 00:04:10,181 --> 00:04:12,659 where Catholics can disagree that 115 00:04:12,700 --> 00:04:15,060 document got buried not only 116 00:04:15,101 --> 00:04:17,639 um now because it's history from 2004 117 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,799 that it got married at the time because 118 00:04:19,840 --> 00:04:23,580 it was unrevealed by Cardinal mccarrick 119 00:04:23,621 --> 00:04:26,340 who for no surprise didn't choose that 120 00:04:26,381 --> 00:04:27,900 to reveal that not even to his brother 121 00:04:27,941 --> 00:04:29,580 Bishops on the committee dealing with 122 00:04:29,621 --> 00:04:31,199 the question 123 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,220 um but the major achievement of 124 00:04:35,261 --> 00:04:38,580 uh Pope Benedict in his pontificate is 125 00:04:38,621 --> 00:04:42,000 actually something which I asked uh 126 00:04:42,041 --> 00:04:43,620 Bishop Schneider about Bishop Schneider 127 00:04:43,661 --> 00:04:45,180 told me he can't be here for the funeral 128 00:04:45,221 --> 00:04:47,520 unfortunately he's traveling in Lisbon 129 00:04:47,561 --> 00:04:49,320 and so on but I did ask him this 130 00:04:49,361 --> 00:04:53,040 question about what is the major Legacy 131 00:04:53,081 --> 00:04:56,400 of uh of Pope Benedict and here's what 132 00:04:56,441 --> 00:05:00,180 he said Mr passing away of Pope Benedict 133 00:05:00,221 --> 00:05:03,960 the 16th many Catholics 134 00:05:04,001 --> 00:05:07,979 felt did they lost a clear 135 00:05:08,020 --> 00:05:12,060 and sure point of reference for their 136 00:05:12,101 --> 00:05:13,380 faith 137 00:05:13,421 --> 00:05:17,820 one can have the sensation of orphanate 138 00:05:17,861 --> 00:05:20,639 or faint children 139 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,300 we can say that Pope Benedict XVI was a 140 00:05:24,341 --> 00:05:25,080 pope 141 00:05:25,121 --> 00:05:27,660 who put at the center 142 00:05:27,701 --> 00:05:29,940 of his personal life 143 00:05:29,981 --> 00:05:33,479 and of the life of the church the 144 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,440 supernatural view of the faith and of 145 00:05:37,481 --> 00:05:40,440 The Perennial validity 146 00:05:40,481 --> 00:05:44,880 of the Holy tradition of the church 147 00:05:44,921 --> 00:05:48,120 which constitutes the source and the 148 00:05:48,161 --> 00:05:51,720 pillar of our faith together with the 149 00:05:51,761 --> 00:05:54,360 Holy Scripture 150 00:05:54,401 --> 00:05:57,840 in this sense the greatest 151 00:05:57,881 --> 00:06:00,840 and most beneficial Act of his 152 00:06:00,881 --> 00:06:02,520 pontificate 153 00:06:02,561 --> 00:06:07,800 was the motor problem pontificum 154 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:12,120 with the full restoration of the 155 00:06:12,161 --> 00:06:15,300 traditional Latin liturgy in all its 156 00:06:15,341 --> 00:06:17,820 expression 157 00:06:17,861 --> 00:06:19,340 Holy Mass 158 00:06:19,381 --> 00:06:22,860 sacraments and all the other secret 159 00:06:22,901 --> 00:06:24,960 rights 160 00:06:25,001 --> 00:06:28,620 this pontifical act 161 00:06:28,661 --> 00:06:33,660 will go down in history as Epoch making 162 00:06:33,701 --> 00:06:36,660 Pope Benedict XVI States 163 00:06:36,701 --> 00:06:39,180 that the traditional right of the Holy 164 00:06:39,221 --> 00:06:42,360 Mass was never abrogated 165 00:06:42,401 --> 00:06:45,419 and should remain always in the church 166 00:06:45,460 --> 00:06:47,460 because 167 00:06:47,501 --> 00:06:50,940 what was holy for our forefathers and 168 00:06:50,981 --> 00:06:53,940 the Saints must be 169 00:06:53,981 --> 00:06:56,160 holy for us 170 00:06:56,201 --> 00:07:00,180 and for the future Generations as well 171 00:07:00,221 --> 00:07:01,979 in a Time 172 00:07:02,020 --> 00:07:04,319 as it was after the second Vatican 173 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,180 Council 174 00:07:06,221 --> 00:07:08,400 where there was within the church and 175 00:07:08,441 --> 00:07:11,600 almost a general movement of a radical 176 00:07:11,641 --> 00:07:15,500 rejection of the Millennium old 177 00:07:15,541 --> 00:07:18,539 liturgical right of the Holy Mass 178 00:07:18,580 --> 00:07:21,660 and therefore a rupture with the 179 00:07:21,701 --> 00:07:24,780 principle itself of the tradition 180 00:07:24,821 --> 00:07:29,160 the pontificate of Benedict XVI was 181 00:07:29,201 --> 00:07:32,340 worthwhile for the only reason 182 00:07:32,381 --> 00:07:34,199 of having 183 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:35,580 issued 184 00:07:35,621 --> 00:07:37,680 the multipropriate Sumerian 185 00:07:37,721 --> 00:07:39,840 pontification 186 00:07:39,881 --> 00:07:43,800 with which began the healing 187 00:07:43,841 --> 00:07:47,300 of the world in the body of the church 188 00:07:47,341 --> 00:07:51,780 the world which was caused by the 189 00:07:51,821 --> 00:07:55,560 attitude of rejection and even hatred 190 00:07:55,601 --> 00:07:59,599 of the venerable and Millennium old 191 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,319 rule of the prayer of the church 192 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,139 in his spiritual Testament Pope Benedict 193 00:08:07,180 --> 00:08:11,539 XVI left us among others the following 194 00:08:11,580 --> 00:08:15,060 substantial short phrase 195 00:08:15,101 --> 00:08:18,479 which I consider the most important of 196 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,759 all 197 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,620 he wrote stand firm in the faith 198 00:08:25,661 --> 00:08:30,199 do not be confused 199 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,760 the witness in our day in the life of 200 00:08:32,801 --> 00:08:36,300 the church a process of a delusion 201 00:08:36,341 --> 00:08:40,140 of the Catholic faith and of adapting it 202 00:08:40,181 --> 00:08:43,820 to the spirit of Heretics 203 00:08:43,861 --> 00:08:46,980 unbelievers and apostates 204 00:08:47,021 --> 00:08:52,019 by the species and euphonic name 205 00:08:52,060 --> 00:08:54,360 of Civility 206 00:08:54,401 --> 00:08:57,959 and by abusing the canonical institution 207 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,180 of a synod 208 00:09:00,221 --> 00:09:04,440 such a situation is demoralizing for all 209 00:09:04,481 --> 00:09:06,420 true Catholics 210 00:09:06,461 --> 00:09:08,700 therefore 211 00:09:08,741 --> 00:09:12,600 the legacy of Pope Benedict XVI which is 212 00:09:12,641 --> 00:09:14,519 expressed in the worlds 213 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:19,260 stand firm in the faith do not be 214 00:09:19,301 --> 00:09:21,000 confused 215 00:09:21,041 --> 00:09:26,100 and in his Epoch making motorcrafters 216 00:09:26,660 --> 00:09:29,580 remains alive 217 00:09:29,621 --> 00:09:34,740 and encouragement and a consolation 218 00:09:34,781 --> 00:09:38,580 this slope was strong in faith a true 219 00:09:38,621 --> 00:09:40,519 lover of the 220 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:43,320 non-perishable Beauty 221 00:09:43,361 --> 00:09:46,860 and firmness of the traditional right of 222 00:09:46,901 --> 00:09:48,240 the Holy Mass 223 00:09:48,281 --> 00:09:51,360 he gave Primacy to prayer 224 00:09:51,401 --> 00:09:57,120 to the supernatural View and to Eternity 225 00:09:57,161 --> 00:10:01,800 this Legacy will overcome thanks 226 00:10:01,841 --> 00:10:04,380 the intervention of Divine Providence 227 00:10:04,421 --> 00:10:08,160 which level abandons his church 228 00:10:08,201 --> 00:10:12,240 will overcome the current enormous 229 00:10:12,281 --> 00:10:16,080 doctrinal confusion 230 00:10:16,121 --> 00:10:19,740 the creeping apostasy especially among a 231 00:10:19,781 --> 00:10:23,100 worldly and unbelieving case of 232 00:10:23,141 --> 00:10:24,959 theologians 233 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,720 who are the new scribes 234 00:10:27,761 --> 00:10:31,920 and among a creeping apostasy of not a 235 00:10:31,961 --> 00:10:36,720 few high ranking clergy who are the new 236 00:10:36,761 --> 00:10:38,940 Sadducees 237 00:10:38,981 --> 00:10:43,260 Pope Benedict XVI made shine brightly 238 00:10:43,301 --> 00:10:46,700 his Episcopal motto 239 00:10:46,741 --> 00:10:50,700 laboratores veritas 240 00:10:50,820 --> 00:10:56,100 it is to say collaborators of the truth 241 00:10:56,141 --> 00:11:00,300 this this motto he wants to say to each 242 00:11:00,341 --> 00:11:02,100 faithful Catholic 243 00:11:02,141 --> 00:11:04,320 to each priest 244 00:11:04,361 --> 00:11:08,459 to each Bishop to each cardinal 245 00:11:08,500 --> 00:11:11,779 and to Pope Francis as well 246 00:11:11,820 --> 00:11:15,839 but really counts 247 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:20,339 is the unshakable Fidelity to the 248 00:11:20,380 --> 00:11:22,079 Catholic faith 249 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,120 to the constant and vulnerable 250 00:11:24,161 --> 00:11:27,360 liturgical tradition of the church and 251 00:11:27,401 --> 00:11:32,640 the Primacy of God's into fatality 252 00:11:32,681 --> 00:11:36,060 may God accept the prayers and spiritual 253 00:11:36,101 --> 00:11:39,120 sufferings which Pope Benedict xvi's 254 00:11:39,161 --> 00:11:41,820 offered in his retired life 255 00:11:41,861 --> 00:11:44,880 and Grant for the future of the church 256 00:11:44,921 --> 00:11:46,440 fully 257 00:11:46,481 --> 00:11:50,100 Catholic and fully Apostolic Bishops and 258 00:11:50,141 --> 00:11:54,300 popes for S and Paul said we cannot do 259 00:11:54,341 --> 00:11:59,100 anything against the truth but only for 260 00:11:59,141 --> 00:12:04,140 the truth also wanted to talk about uh 261 00:12:04,181 --> 00:12:06,779 what Bishop Schneider just said also 262 00:12:06,820 --> 00:12:08,399 about Benedict's message in his last 263 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,700 will and testament about not being 264 00:12:11,741 --> 00:12:14,100 afraid and don't be confused I think 265 00:12:14,141 --> 00:12:18,060 that is a huge message for today and uh 266 00:12:18,101 --> 00:12:20,040 Bishop Schneider there was very clear 267 00:12:20,081 --> 00:12:24,180 about the Heretics and apostates in the 268 00:12:24,221 --> 00:12:26,279 church today what if you can define 269 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,500 those terms for us what does it mean to 270 00:12:28,541 --> 00:12:30,240 be an apostate 271 00:12:30,281 --> 00:12:33,899 to to reject the Catholic faith to be 272 00:12:33,940 --> 00:12:35,459 brought up in the Catholic faith and to 273 00:12:35,500 --> 00:12:37,740 turn your back on that truth 274 00:12:37,781 --> 00:12:40,920 um something which we see so so widely 275 00:12:40,961 --> 00:12:42,360 um I think something which Bishop 276 00:12:42,401 --> 00:12:44,820 Schneider particularly himself is a 277 00:12:44,861 --> 00:12:46,560 great claring example of teaching us 278 00:12:46,601 --> 00:12:48,480 that truth and trying to guide Souls 279 00:12:48,521 --> 00:12:50,459 back towards the faith at whatever state 280 00:12:50,500 --> 00:12:52,500 they're in and it's incredible because 281 00:12:52,541 --> 00:12:55,260 Bishop Schneider is saying this in the 282 00:12:55,301 --> 00:12:58,980 context of Bishops and Cardinals that's 283 00:12:59,021 --> 00:13:01,380 why this is so stunning he's actually 284 00:13:01,421 --> 00:13:05,279 pointing it out of them so centrally he 285 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,920 said the most important thing about any 286 00:13:07,961 --> 00:13:10,380 this is an epical change about 287 00:13:10,421 --> 00:13:13,620 Benedict's papacy was the restoration of 288 00:13:13,661 --> 00:13:15,420 the traditional Mass tell us a little 289 00:13:15,461 --> 00:13:17,519 bit about that what does he mean by 290 00:13:17,560 --> 00:13:20,579 restoration of and he said it was never 291 00:13:20,620 --> 00:13:23,579 abrogated but what does that all mean I 292 00:13:23,620 --> 00:13:25,079 think that's quite a key point the 293 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,639 traditional mess was never abrogated 294 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:28,500 it's it's enemies I've always tried to 295 00:13:28,541 --> 00:13:30,180 say that at some point it's been illegal 296 00:13:30,221 --> 00:13:31,560 and you're committing a crime by 297 00:13:31,601 --> 00:13:33,120 offering the mass but that was never the 298 00:13:33,161 --> 00:13:34,800 case but I think what pope Benedict's 299 00:13:34,841 --> 00:13:36,899 more on pontificum uh really showed was 300 00:13:36,940 --> 00:13:39,060 that there was a love for the 301 00:13:39,101 --> 00:13:41,220 traditional mass and it accentuated that 302 00:13:41,261 --> 00:13:44,220 love by by allowing people more ready 303 00:13:44,261 --> 00:13:46,139 access to it not not by allowing them 304 00:13:46,180 --> 00:13:47,279 because it was never banned but just by 305 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,680 allowing radio access to it I think he 306 00:13:49,721 --> 00:13:52,019 he opened to The Wider Church a treasure 307 00:13:52,060 --> 00:13:53,700 which had until then been been locked 308 00:13:53,741 --> 00:13:55,620 away in little cubby halls in churches 309 00:13:55,661 --> 00:13:57,360 at 7 pm in the evening every second 310 00:13:57,401 --> 00:14:00,899 Sunday or something and really opened up 311 00:14:00,940 --> 00:14:03,120 to to so many families I mean the thing 312 00:14:03,161 --> 00:14:04,860 about the traditional movement is it's 313 00:14:04,901 --> 00:14:07,019 populated by young families I think 314 00:14:07,060 --> 00:14:08,880 greatly benefited by somewhere on 315 00:14:08,921 --> 00:14:10,560 pontificum they were able to find the 316 00:14:10,601 --> 00:14:12,600 mass within a much easier sort of drive 317 00:14:12,641 --> 00:14:15,060 towards the house and that has really 318 00:14:15,101 --> 00:14:16,920 brought so many Graces to the church 319 00:14:16,961 --> 00:14:18,360 brought so many young families but so 320 00:14:18,401 --> 00:14:20,160 many young vocations I think something 321 00:14:20,201 --> 00:14:22,620 we're going to see perhaps tomorrow is 322 00:14:22,661 --> 00:14:24,360 the amount of young priests who are 323 00:14:24,401 --> 00:14:25,620 going to be here and who attribute their 324 00:14:25,661 --> 00:14:28,560 vocation to Pope Benedict many of the 325 00:14:28,601 --> 00:14:30,120 traditional communities like say the 326 00:14:30,161 --> 00:14:31,800 Saint Peter or The Institute of Christ 327 00:14:31,841 --> 00:14:33,600 the King booming invocations 328 00:14:33,641 --> 00:14:35,220 particularly since tomorrow pontificant 329 00:14:35,261 --> 00:14:37,320 because these these young men have come 330 00:14:37,361 --> 00:14:38,519 in contact with the mass which they 331 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:39,660 otherwise wouldn't have come in contact 332 00:14:39,701 --> 00:14:42,180 with uh and that's that has just been 333 00:14:42,221 --> 00:14:44,519 Untold blessings of the church 334 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,740 so we're in a very strange situation now 335 00:14:46,781 --> 00:14:50,220 because you had this uh seemingly 336 00:14:50,261 --> 00:14:52,980 restoration of the traditional mass and 337 00:14:53,021 --> 00:14:55,620 sacraments as as uh Bishop Schneider 338 00:14:55,661 --> 00:14:57,540 just said he very much stressed and 339 00:14:57,581 --> 00:15:01,019 sacraments and yet now with this new 340 00:15:01,060 --> 00:15:03,000 document of Pope Francis tradiciones 341 00:15:03,041 --> 00:15:05,279 custodis what does it exactly do to 342 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:06,959 restrict the mass and the traditional 343 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,440 sacraments it's it's it's a hammer blow 344 00:15:10,481 --> 00:15:11,880 to the traditional Mass 345 00:15:11,921 --> 00:15:14,220 um there'll be many astute arguments 346 00:15:14,261 --> 00:15:16,320 made about its actual legality 347 00:15:16,361 --> 00:15:18,180 um but in terms of its practical effects 348 00:15:18,221 --> 00:15:20,699 uh it really tries to cut Pope 349 00:15:20,740 --> 00:15:22,980 Benedict's more on pandifica severely 350 00:15:23,021 --> 00:15:24,600 restricts the availability of the latter 351 00:15:24,641 --> 00:15:27,180 Mass around the world however much it's 352 00:15:27,221 --> 00:15:28,380 implemented that's down to each 353 00:15:28,421 --> 00:15:29,820 particular Bishop but then you also get 354 00:15:29,861 --> 00:15:31,560 the sense that Rome is is putting 355 00:15:31,601 --> 00:15:33,360 pressure on Bishops as more and more 356 00:15:33,401 --> 00:15:34,860 Bishops around the world gradually cave 357 00:15:34,901 --> 00:15:37,440 gradually impose restrictions uh on the 358 00:15:37,481 --> 00:15:39,360 parishes which are thriving often it is 359 00:15:39,401 --> 00:15:41,279 the Latin Mass parishes in their diocese 360 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,680 which are the youngest they're they're 361 00:15:43,721 --> 00:15:45,720 more full of families they're more free 362 00:15:45,761 --> 00:15:46,980 with their relations because they 363 00:15:47,021 --> 00:15:48,300 realize the need to support the church 364 00:15:48,341 --> 00:15:50,820 they are the lifeblood but the 365 00:15:50,861 --> 00:15:52,560 um the implementation of tradition is 366 00:15:52,601 --> 00:15:55,560 custodis is very heavily restricting 367 00:15:55,601 --> 00:15:57,600 that it's prohibiting new priests from 368 00:15:57,641 --> 00:15:59,279 having ready access to permission to say 369 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,500 the latter Mass it's um then with 370 00:16:01,541 --> 00:16:04,199 Cardinal roaches extra response a dubium 371 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,600 just a few months later that was then 372 00:16:06,641 --> 00:16:08,519 restricting further the access to the 373 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,320 traditional sacraments 374 00:16:10,361 --> 00:16:14,040 um so that one is is really hellish for 375 00:16:14,081 --> 00:16:16,199 parents for traditional parents who 376 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,139 found out about the traditional 377 00:16:19,180 --> 00:16:20,639 sacraments like for instance just just 378 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,579 take it a very small exam example the 379 00:16:23,620 --> 00:16:26,339 traditional right of baptism has four 380 00:16:26,380 --> 00:16:28,980 exorcisms as part of it the Novus Auto 381 00:16:29,021 --> 00:16:31,139 right of baptism which I was baptized in 382 00:16:31,180 --> 00:16:32,399 and all my kids because we knew no 383 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,639 better has no exorcisms whatsoever makes 384 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:36,899 you wonder if you shouldn't redo it 385 00:16:36,940 --> 00:16:41,040 again so I mean terrible stuff and yet 386 00:16:41,081 --> 00:16:44,880 done in the face of Pope Benedict while 387 00:16:44,921 --> 00:16:46,920 he was still living and this was so 388 00:16:46,961 --> 00:16:49,860 interesting so what just broke the other 389 00:16:49,901 --> 00:16:52,980 day was an interview with Archbishop 390 00:16:53,021 --> 00:16:54,959 genspine who we all know was a secretary 391 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,820 to Benedict and in the beginning even to 392 00:16:56,861 --> 00:16:58,079 Francis as well went back and forth 393 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,120 between the two popes and he just 394 00:17:00,161 --> 00:17:04,520 revealed in a new interview that the 395 00:17:04,561 --> 00:17:06,720 Traditions custodus from Pope Francis 396 00:17:06,761 --> 00:17:08,699 really broke his heart in Germany since 397 00:17:08,740 --> 00:17:11,819 it made my heart sick it made my it sort 398 00:17:11,860 --> 00:17:13,500 of in our English translation would be 399 00:17:13,541 --> 00:17:15,000 it broke my heart 400 00:17:15,041 --> 00:17:17,339 and really 401 00:17:17,380 --> 00:17:21,600 people wonder was this the blow dealt to 402 00:17:21,641 --> 00:17:23,280 Pope Benedict that really put him under 403 00:17:23,321 --> 00:17:25,500 because a broken heart we've seen 404 00:17:25,541 --> 00:17:27,660 already from so many leaders in the 405 00:17:27,701 --> 00:17:30,600 church in fact the two dubia Cardinals 406 00:17:30,641 --> 00:17:32,520 who died 407 00:17:32,561 --> 00:17:33,660 um 408 00:17:33,701 --> 00:17:37,020 day two died of broken hearts because of 409 00:17:37,061 --> 00:17:38,700 the response they got from the pope 410 00:17:38,741 --> 00:17:40,860 betraying the faith so from Pope Francis 411 00:17:40,901 --> 00:17:43,080 that is betraying the faith so 412 00:17:43,121 --> 00:17:45,000 unbelievable stuff do you have any 413 00:17:45,041 --> 00:17:48,240 comment for us on uh that on the passing 414 00:17:48,281 --> 00:17:50,580 of the of the Holy Father and your 415 00:17:50,621 --> 00:17:52,200 thoughts for the future of the church 416 00:17:52,241 --> 00:17:54,539 I think as you mentioned that his legacy 417 00:17:54,580 --> 00:17:56,520 but Benedict's Legacy is I think for 418 00:17:56,561 --> 00:17:58,200 many people it's more important the 419 00:17:58,241 --> 00:18:00,539 Latin Mass which I think makes the the 420 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:03,299 pain of tradition is even more a bitter 421 00:18:03,340 --> 00:18:04,919 for him when he was there you know 422 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,440 hundreds of meters away behind France's 423 00:18:07,481 --> 00:18:09,960 in the Vatican Gardens there and to have 424 00:18:10,001 --> 00:18:12,000 that attack on the mass going on the 425 00:18:12,041 --> 00:18:13,440 church will always have this Treasure of 426 00:18:13,481 --> 00:18:14,700 the latter mass and it will continue to 427 00:18:14,741 --> 00:18:17,700 grow uh we can call on you know the 428 00:18:17,741 --> 00:18:20,340 example of of Pope Benedict in trying to 429 00:18:20,381 --> 00:18:22,260 promote the latter mass as he did trying 430 00:18:22,301 --> 00:18:24,480 to give it to uh to the Next Generation 431 00:18:24,521 --> 00:18:26,220 to our families to our friends our loved 432 00:18:26,261 --> 00:18:28,620 ones uh and basically to try and promote 433 00:18:28,661 --> 00:18:30,419 that Treasure of SMS that I think will 434 00:18:30,460 --> 00:18:32,640 be his his main Legacy 435 00:18:32,681 --> 00:18:36,179 it is it is incredible to think that the 436 00:18:36,220 --> 00:18:39,539 main work the main Legacy of of the Holy 437 00:18:39,580 --> 00:18:42,780 Father of Pope Benedict Was sort of is 438 00:18:42,821 --> 00:18:44,760 trying to be stomped on stomped out if 439 00:18:44,801 --> 00:18:47,400 you will and we know uh originally Pope 440 00:18:47,441 --> 00:18:49,320 Benedict probably had a role in the 441 00:18:49,361 --> 00:18:51,179 suppression of the Latin Mass itself but 442 00:18:51,220 --> 00:18:53,880 he's obviously turned around and did 443 00:18:53,921 --> 00:18:57,240 what no one has done since the 1960s in 444 00:18:57,281 --> 00:18:59,640 bringing back the Latin mass and saying 445 00:18:59,681 --> 00:19:01,380 it was never abrogated which which is 446 00:19:01,421 --> 00:19:04,559 all by itself huge but I think from that 447 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,480 testimony from Bishop Schneider we know 448 00:19:06,521 --> 00:19:09,299 this is the great legacy it's a legacy 449 00:19:09,340 --> 00:19:12,660 as Bishop Schneider said we have to take 450 00:19:12,701 --> 00:19:16,799 courage and not be confused 451 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:18,780 for lifesite news this is John Henry 452 00:19:18,821 --> 00:19:20,520 Weston and Michael Haynes behind the 453 00:19:20,561 --> 00:19:22,919 camera Jim Hale God bless you all and 454 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,539 we'll see you tomorrow for the funeral 455 00:19:24,580 --> 00:19:28,340 of Benedict XVI 456 00:19:29,300 --> 00:19:32,480 [Music] 31647

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