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Spinnerte students, from glue 13 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,359 struggling academics, educators have become wild! 14 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,113 There are mistakes, there are fakes 15 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:15,959 and there's Strauß talking. 16 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,991 This whelp this self-proclaimed 17 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,113 Pseudo-Napoleon of Helmut Schmidt! 18 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,712 This man has no control over itself. 19 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:31,632 And that's why he may have really no control over our State! 20 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,000 You guys are the best, you guys are the best 21 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:40,439 Student of Dr. Joseph Goebbels been! You were one of the best trailers 22 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:45,277 Brown ideology have been! Re the best Nazis, who has ever existed! 23 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,837 Mr. Chaussy, where is the explosives? 24 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,311 Listen to me, good man. Storm our apartment, browse 25 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,473 our apartment found no explosives, and now you ask me,. 26 00:03:05,640 --> 00:03:07,916 where is the explosives? You can't be serious? 27 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,794 You were not the first left, are starting to build bombs. 28 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,435 Jesus Maria... 29 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,990 Know your superiors in the Bayerischer Rundfunk 30 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,439 that you want to blow up the system? Since you work... 31 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,994 Are you threatening me? -We track only 32 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,677 a note from an absolutely trusted source, 33 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,074 by a person who affirms that State. -All wonderful... 34 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:40,513 Politically motivated acts of violence, in particular terrorist attacks and attacks, 35 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:46,672 be committed in most cases by the forward envisage. 36 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:54,119 From Caesar to Sissi, from Lincoln to Kennedy 37 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,875 the puppeteer in a transfigured mist disappear is the fault 38 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,398 focused on an individual offender, a pawn sacrifice. 39 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,191 This supposed envisage 40 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,036 acting but not really alone. 41 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,313 It just seems so. 42 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:26,199 It seems that because he runs like a puppet on invisible threads. 43 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,792 These threads are capped at the moment of fact 44 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:37,519 and they have drawn, disappearing into the darkness. 45 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:40,712 This is the decisive moment. 46 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:47,317 Is determined in the context of the offender not immediately and discreetly, 47 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:53,076 You can find only loose ends that run into the void. 48 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:55,710 Thank you. 50 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,355 Oh, Yes, a still: the Prime Minister has given me with my appointment 51 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:13,197 to the head of the State Security Department admitted a personal consultant. 52 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,993 Accept what is? 53 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,399 When you need an answer? 54 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:23,672 Well, now - or do you not want? 55 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,510 Of course, Mr. Director. You can count on me. 56 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,632 Have you looked equal to spare for me? 57 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:48,431 you've done something? 58 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,080 Of course not. 59 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,270 It is enough apparently today, to live in a shared apartment. 60 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,397 You have a complete blast. 61 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,312 Maybe it is now but at the time, 62 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,594 to move in together? 65 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,755 Please say "Yes". 66 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,674 That's me too fast. We are married only a year. 68 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:20,710 Positive protection of the Constitution. You need to remember this approach. 69 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,311 Yes, we need to rethink, gentlemen. 70 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,916 Our intelligence mission is now more closely linked with the policy. 71 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:34,519 We don't just observe and keep everything for us. We give the media, 72 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:41,519 selected media, discrete journalists targeted exclusive information. 73 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:44,635 This effect. 74 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,552 Here you go. Ok? 75 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,598 Sound engineer: Uli, how it looks like? Are you ready? 76 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:56,796 ULRICH CHAUSSY: Yes. 77 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,356 Sound engineer: Und...bitte! 78 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,750 ULRICH CHAUSSY: military sports is the new fashion of the right-wing extremists. 79 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,436 Their great role model here: Karl-Heinz Hoffmann, founder of the 80 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,800 Hoffmann military sports group. You dream of a new SA and train. 82 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,433 Come on over there! 83 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,958 Now has Federal Interior Minister Gerhart Baum 84 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,909 exactly those military sports group is prohibited. It is for years by the Bavarian 85 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,517 Been tolerated and played down State Government. 86 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,434 Full coverage! 87 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,751 House searches at the Hoffmann military sports group 88 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,233 brought to light weapons, ammunition and explosives. 89 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,957 Nationwide search in great action to link terrorists. 90 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,794 But uniformed war games of right-wing extremists 91 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:51,160 are for some politicians and authorities but harmless Boy Scout games. 95 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,958 Look! Hardly we are there, the Devil's going on. 96 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,756 It goes well. We need no more parking 97 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,991 If we go for a beer at the Oktoberfest. 98 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,316 A beer? 99 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,115 A foryou. 100 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,875 Car? -Bike. 101 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,118 Oktoberfest? -Actually not at all. 103 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,638 I look forward to. -I myself also. 108 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:26,636 "A toast, a toast of comfort!" 109 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:33,030 "A toast, a toast of comfort!" 121 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,554 At 10:21 in the evening thousands by flocked 122 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,475 Main entrance gate of the Oktoberfest on the way home. Hundreds of people 123 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,951 There were at this point, as the explosive devices exploded. 125 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:57,635 Any help comes too late for 12 people, including a boy and two little girls. 126 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,677 By the force of the blast in the middle of the crowd were even 127 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,675 further away are residing persons legs ripped off. 130 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,270 The photos. 131 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:38,560 Mr doctor Lafleur? Obermeier, interagency Theresienwiese. 132 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,910 You already have a suspect? -Yes. 133 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,355 Gundolf Köhler - what do you know about? 134 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,030 Due to the degree of injury we assume that he direct 135 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:52,475 In addition to the bomb. 136 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,197 Thank you. 137 00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:57,755 Query the man. 139 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:11,512 Thank you, I no longer need you. 140 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,473 Lacey, greet you. -Mr President-in Office of the Minister. 141 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,791 I just came from Bonn. 142 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,753 Have you prepared anything? 143 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,271 We must take advantage of the situation. Elections are coming in a week. 145 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,794 Please let through. Ladies and gentlemen! Let us through! 146 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:34,353 Prime Minister (resolved): this is the proof for the complete 147 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:39,794 Failure of the Federal Government! Left terror has no place in our country. 148 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:43,075 Interior Minister Baum must resign! 151 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,438 interesting facts about Köhler. 153 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:07,789 He was in a military sports group. -He was an active member of ist...er. 154 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:10,720 It may be don't believe it. 155 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,994 Doctor Lafleur, Interior Minister Baum wants the military sports group 156 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,153 Prohibit Hoffmann. What do you think the risk situation, 157 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,272 from the point of view of State protection? 158 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,355 If adult men on the weekend with uniform, steel helmet and welded 159 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:33,754 Guns want to run through the Woods, then one shouldn't make it easy. 160 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,829 The Minister of the interior makes it more important than they really are. 161 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,759 We play them only in the hands. 162 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,073 Prime Minister: Write that me Word for word in my speech. 163 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:43,196 Happy. 164 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,156 Prime Minister (upset): Lacey! 165 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,475 This is a disaster! That falls back on us now! 166 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:54,115 This could cost me victory! -How should we respond to the situation, 167 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,350 Mr President-in-Office of the Minister? 168 00:13:55,560 --> 00:13:57,392 you can come up with something better! 169 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,193 Less than 22 hours after the bomb attack on the 170 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:14,276 Munich Oktoberfest there is still confusion about perpetrators and motives. 171 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,433 The Federal Prosecutor has the investigation into the attack on the 172 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,478 Munich Oktoberfest taken over. 173 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,439 The bomb massacre in Munich is apparently on the account of the 174 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,958 Right-wing extremism. The track in this direction became clear today. 175 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,591 According to the current state of discovery comes as perpetrators of the 21 year old 176 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,999 Geology student Gundolf Köhler from Donaueschingen to consider. 177 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,231 News anchor: Köhler was a member of the right-wing 178 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,518 Military sports group Hoffmann, who has been banned since January. 179 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,558 Mr. Hoffmann! Mr. Hoffmann! 180 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,520 News anchor: The leader of the paramilitary organization, 181 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,151 the graphic designer Karl-Heinz Hoffmann, was arrested at the weekend. 182 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,915 The decent! It is only against the decent ones! 183 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,431 Mr. Hoffmann! -Mr. Hoffmann! 184 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:02,277 Evidence that Köhler wanted to commit suicide or committed. 185 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,590 are not available. 186 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:08,277 Attorney General does on Rebmann Köhler as Alleintäter,. 187 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,353 the Bavarian Minister of the Interior Tandler still leaves this question. 188 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,080 Are the Bayern now completely nuts? 189 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,233 Can someone please tell me what the are in Munich? 190 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:18,995 You have but a roof damage! 191 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,278 In the investigation of the Munich attack, the investigating authorities are 192 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,632 Obviously no further. The six right-wing extremists, 193 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,874 who had been detained after the attack, are all back on the loose. 194 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,440 Newscaster: The Bavarian Ministry of Interior 195 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,876 This is confirmed in his assessment, 196 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,839 It is the Act of an individual. 198 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,392 We both have appeared here today, to this atrocity, which three years ago 199 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,758 happened to recall. Let's not forget him. Do you understand 200 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,994 It was the worst attack against our Republic in the postwar period, 201 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,073 and you understand the sacrifices, the victim can not forget. 202 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:01,959 Mr lawyer Dietrich, as are available to the 203 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,998 Results of the Federal Prosecutor's Office? 204 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,356 I don't know any results. I know only rumors. 205 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,757 Thank you very much. Thank you. 206 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,230 Mr. Director! 207 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,120 Mr winter! I'm glad you're here. -Yes. Second for me? 208 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,272 "Grüß Gott". 209 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,478 Mr. Assistant Director, can you give me something too the 210 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,077 Say findings? -No, it's now the hour 211 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,995 the vented. -You, as a Bavarian State Security Chief, 212 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,392 were also in demand. -This already, but we Nachrichtendienstler 213 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,359 have the investigations not led. Maybe we have it so this time 214 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,116 to do with an envisage. -Thank you. 216 00:17:10,360 --> 00:17:14,115 After extensive investigations we have come to the conclusion, 217 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:20,915 that the assassination of the Oktoberfest on September 26, 1980 218 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,236 was the deed of a loner. 219 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,038 Gundolf Köhler from Donaueschingen acted out of personal motives: 220 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,796 sexual frustration, lack of prospects. 221 00:17:36,120 --> 00:17:39,670 A political motive could not be detected. 222 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,518 There is also no evidence of an involvement of another culprit. 223 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,400 CLIENT: This is yet... but unbelievable! 224 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:52,637 I was still there. This is but an insult, 225 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,435 We cannot accept that! -Of course, but... 226 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,434 Mr lawyer Dietrich? I'm sorry, my name is Ullrich Chaussy of the 227 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:01,274 Bayerischer Rundfunk. A small moment, had time for me? 228 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,311 We meet next week at the Office, Yes? 229 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,151 I tell you the same: If you are widow shakers and the 230 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,596 Want addresses of severely injured victims of assassination 231 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,355 then, with me, you are wrong. And not to mention at this moment. 232 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,599 So, if not, please. 234 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,560 I think that the setting of the investigation raises questions. 235 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,316 Yes. I absolutely agree with you. - And? 236 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,593 Well, I've don't want to believe it, as a few days ago 237 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,991 this rumor came from Karlsruhe, Germany. 238 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,751 What do you think? You seem a central role within the 239 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,879 To take the victim organisation. -Do not overdo. 240 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,078 I represent only a few victims, most are afraid. 241 00:18:46,360 --> 00:18:47,589 Fear of what? 243 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:03,950 What happens here, this is so...so incredibly outrageous and so complex 244 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,597 There can be already anxious one. 245 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,311 Listen: Gundolf Köhler, a 21-year-old boy from Donaueschingen,. 246 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,632 supposedly has a bomb from military... 247 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:23,479 built from military explosives, without help, without any leads to 248 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,876 that could leave, by all safety nets through 249 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,713 Carry out assassination at the Oktoberfest? 250 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,558 What do you think, how is it? 251 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,673 I want to give you no lectures. 252 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,877 Make your own image if you want. 253 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:36,954 Are you a journalist yet. 254 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:50,753 (Street sounds, whirring of the bicycle) 255 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,832 Good morning, Mr. Wagner. -"Grüß Gott". 257 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,239 and from! 258 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,638 For the good. -Ah, thank you. 261 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,797 So, then what you say. 262 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,909 1... 1, 2. - good. 264 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,793 Mr doctor lad, what is the principle of your work? 265 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,277 Work with the people of Nachrichtendienstler...muss. 266 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,911 He can build any pressure, he must convince 267 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:13,351 He must win it, he must... 268 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,479 Yes, if you want to seduce. 271 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,995 Yes, Hello, my name is Ullrich Chaussy of the Bayerischer Rundfunk. 272 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,196 I want to sell you anything... 273 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,190 You're Yes witness of the attack from the Oktoberfest... 274 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,795 Ok... 276 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,592 Excuse me, that I'm interrupting you, but you're Yes witness of the 277 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,717 Stop by the Oktoberfest and I wanted to ask you, 278 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,155 If you would talk to me? 280 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,835 Her name would be mentioned in no way... 281 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,830 The result of the Federal Prosecutor's Office 282 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,675 affects some people something strange. 283 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,080 That is categorically. 284 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,236 Detractors accuse questionable methods you 285 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,394 Influencing of witnesses, intimidation even. 286 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,434 No speech can be really so by intimidation. 287 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:25,431 We have only checked the statements of the witnesses. 288 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,318 Sometimes, you must drill just a little deeper to get at the truth. 289 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,793 The human memory is shockingly mediocre. 290 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,434 Ms. Lehmann, excuse me, that I'm interrupting you, but you are witness of the 291 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,718 Assassination of Oktoberfest and I wanted to ask whether you would be willing 292 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,991 talk to me? I'm doing a search on 293 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,913 the background of the assassination. 294 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,469 Mr Werner Dietrich gave me your number. 295 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,712 I would meet directly on the Theresienwiese with you. 296 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,916 Chaussy, good day. -Good day. 297 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,795 I am delighted that you are still could bring by to meet me. 298 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,680 I know this is a difficult course for you. 299 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,390 Yes... Actually I wanted to never come here. 300 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,440 Is it okay if I am with the tape running? 301 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,831 But it remains the case that my name is not mentioned? 302 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,555 As discussed. Yes? 305 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,238 You said on the phone that you are on September 26, 1980 306 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,960 around quarter past ten on the way home 307 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:40,079 were so slow? -Yes, so we're here along 308 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,278 run, to this great welcome arch. 309 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,391 So you know, this shield,. 310 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,712 where it says "Welcome to the Oktoberfest". And then I looked to the left 311 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,714 and they saw two men there, 312 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,876 you stood there bent over to a trash can or recycle bin 313 00:23:55,040 --> 00:24:00,035 and you went what white as wild as a plastic bag. 314 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,035 And then I thought yet, what do you do for there, what are you doing? 315 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:10,039 And dann...wurde's bright, this plastic bag, or what was that, flying high 316 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,400 and then everything was bright as as a huge ball of light. 318 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,869 ...und then I looked to the left 319 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,714 and these two men saw there... 321 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,360 I didn't know what I go to. 322 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,390 There was nothing blocked. 323 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,599 And dann...standen we here 324 00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:59,400 and ich...ich see there what lie and say to my friend "what is it?" 325 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:05,432 And it looked like waste, so...so shredded waste and... 326 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,791 and I say dann...dann "the..." This is a dead man." 327 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,880 "This is a dead man!" 331 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,229 Then I saw wie...wie two legs 332 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,312 of this waste bucket moves away have,. 333 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,912 so from this light out, which for a few seconds everything 334 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,438 has illuminated and dann...dann there was a scream and then 335 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,751 There was this deafening bang. 336 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,120 And then silence. 337 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,516 There, two men stood before this body. 338 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,751 Two guys, one... 339 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:15,197 an elder, so 35 years old and the other was approximately 25 younger, 26 years. 340 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,993 Big, blonde, short hair and he all the time beat wild to 341 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,313 and always screamed "I don't want it! I can't help it! Going to kill me " 342 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,672 "I can't help it! I don't want it!" And the other one, who has tried 343 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,877 to calm him. And I went even to them, 344 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,191 but there was nothing to do more, the... 346 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,912 And then told me, it was the body of the charcoal-burner. 347 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,272 These statements were completely ignored by the investigators. 348 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,000 But why? Which is why? What would be the reason? Why? 349 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,310 Why, Mr Chaussy. 351 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,959 About I racking my head my quite a while. 352 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,117 And, what should you do with the recordings? 353 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,190 Sending, is obvious. 354 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,034 This is good. Very good! 355 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,790 She looks good. 357 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,994 It is incredible that the Federal Prosecutor's Office in this unique 358 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,119 Witness statements can stand still for their final report. 359 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,757 What could be the reason? 360 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,076 I have no idea. 361 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,993 But Köhler was not alone. He had occupied helpers, accomplices, that is. 362 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,672 Maybe you're Yes really at it, as a right 363 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,320 great thing to reveal. 365 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,039 This is scary. 366 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,594 It may of course also be, that I'm completely wrong. 367 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,313 Yes, but if it is as you say, then it is still worth the risk. 368 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,996 In terms of career, that would be a great opportunity. 369 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,351 I hope that I am right. -I honestly don't. 370 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,592 Also somehow scary. 371 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,876 But I am very pleased that your work requires you to. 372 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,437 Good for really you, just reporting about boring stuff. 373 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,310 So, you can find my 374 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,040 Reports so boring. -No! 375 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,800 You know what? The blouse doesn't suit you at all. 377 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,317 Und...Bitte. 378 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,520 Three years ago, 13 people were killed at the Oktoberfest, 200 were 379 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,960 injured, 60 of them difficult. Recently, the investigations are completed, 380 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,672 but the case is not resolved. Köhler was not alone, that have given me 381 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,038 Fact witnesses reported. For example a witness, the Coalfish immediately 382 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,510 has observed before detonating. 383 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,156 BIRGIT WENZEL: ...und then I looked to the left 384 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,040 and saw these two men there. 385 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,916 You stood there bent over as a recycle bin 386 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,960 and you went what white as wild as a plastic bag. 387 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:30,753 Such explosive testimony was not pursued. A further witness: 388 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,357 I would have to describe pretty well that for phantom images. But I have 389 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,752 heard since October 1980 never again by the police. 390 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,320 The investigators come to a comfortable conclusion: Gundolf Köhler, the envisage. 391 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,393 The open questions are not answered. 392 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:52,272 What really happened on September 26, 1980? Who was with Gundolf Köhler 393 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,033 in Munich? And 394 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,238 why is he portrayed envisage, if statements 395 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,354 trusted witnesses prove the opposite? 396 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,918 We are at the end of the evening journal. 397 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,675 I would draw your attention yet, that tomorrow we 398 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,069 at 10: 00 in the programme Bavaria 2... 399 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,557 Congratulations. -...dieses topic will discuss. 400 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,315 And now I wish you have a nice night. 402 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,600 It was very good. 403 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,110 Thank you. 405 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,230 Chaussy? 406 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,600 Who the hell are you? 407 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,074 What kind of information? 408 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,314 Boorowa, Pullach. 409 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,436 Hello? Hello? 410 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:44,920 Easy set up. 411 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,552 It is in the middle of the night, how ever has our number? 412 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,474 I have no idea, but we're not just hiding. 413 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,151 And you want to go out there now really easy? 414 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,750 He said he has important information. 415 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,553 Should I come? -Yes... No! 416 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,399 Don't worry, I'm immediately back. 418 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,593 Come on, let's take a walk. 421 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,878 You said you have information for me? 422 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,553 May I ask who you are? 423 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,192 You may have questions. But I won't tell you. 424 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,397 No name and no mention of me in your future reports, 425 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,712 I could help you out. 426 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,032 Are we clear, Mr Chaussy? 427 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,398 What have you to tell me? 428 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,789 I will like to check your information, we're doing aber...was? 429 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,560 You can try like this. 430 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,515 Call me for all I care "Meier". 431 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,076 Is not my real name, and the name I give you none. 432 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,596 Only this much: What happened back then, believe me, at all, 433 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,354 I was very close. 434 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,310 If the Prime Minister was a cold, I knew that. 435 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,316 If deaths in this way on the Oktoberfest, I care even more. 436 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,070 The situation was extremely volatile due to the Act itself, 437 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,074 but especially because of the political dimension. 438 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,597 I would be cautious with allegations in their report. 439 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,755 You accuse our police and justice quite directly the inability 440 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,079 and cover-up. I didn't think that you would trust something. 441 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,956 I am only, what many people think. 442 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,960 Has that worries you? 443 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,196 No. 444 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,034 Something I like. 445 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,874 I like thoroughness. I'm going to help you. 446 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,879 Uh, can I ask why? 447 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,800 This does nothing to the thing. Let's go a little bit. 448 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,712 How would you help me please? 449 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,476 You work together with lawyer Dietrich. 450 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,640 Are you doing well? 452 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,829 What do you think? 453 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,353 I mean it, I will help you. 455 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,513 He ultimately not much has given me. 456 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,469 And then, as I said, he was gone. 457 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,870 Puff! 458 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:50,870 Puff. 459 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,915 Tea? -Yes, I got it. 460 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,750 This is like so a transfiguring fog 461 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,479 he hid the truth. 462 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,837 The offer of a witness, to help create a phantom image, 463 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,192 will be rejected. Directly after the fact the number is left-wing in the shoes 464 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,955 pushed, then it acted... 465 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:15,596 Do we not still now breakfast? 466 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,993 It's all so obvious. 467 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,237 Funny that no one else is far now come on it. 468 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,636 that you're the only one who even researched. 469 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,874 yes I think so too. But maybe colleagues might have to soon abandoned, 470 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,714 were they not good enough. 471 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,993 It was capped to much, they were afraid. 472 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,360 I mean, ultimately it's BR internally of course also a hot number. 473 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,152 And how do we go now? 474 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,956 gotta go. 475 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,237 Why is it? -I got to school, I lecture. 476 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,880 Komm... - really. 477 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,400 Oh, you, I really gotta go. 478 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,635 You, I come today just in time to get home and then I throw myself 479 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,634 you like a lion. -If all goes well. 481 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,714 Good afternoon, Mrs. Aibinger. 486 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,719 You really have no idea who sent that to you? 487 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,514 Are even thousands of pages. 488 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,514 I let you try. 489 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,117 ULRICH CHAUSSY: Here, check it out: all the witnesses to testify. 490 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,000 that they have seen Kaka in Munich accompanied by more than one person. 491 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,355 What can I find here? 492 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,200 The interrogation Protocol with Koehler's supposed best friend, 493 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,629 a certain Max Gärtner. 495 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,516 Read times! 496 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,876 "Kelley was a really good guy, you could always absolutely on him" 497 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,960 "leave, if you know what I mean. We talked about everything " 498 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,240 "everything." Huh? I thought Kaka was a loner. 499 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,318 Why do you read the Lacey book? 500 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,952 Because I think it's exciting. 501 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,678 "Question: would you describe Kelley interested politically?" 502 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,991 Answer? -"I can only affirm that." 503 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,834 "We have looked at all the parties, even among the Greens we were." 504 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,038 "Is but everything only scam. We talked openly about it " 505 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,079 "How can take the voters the large. "Even if one the" 506 00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:49,756 "familiar faces eliminated, then get the small parties" 507 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,355 "perhaps up to ten per cent." - "question: you have open over" 508 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,752 "political violence speak?" - "Openly." 509 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,520 "Bombs?" - "gardener replies: Kelley had" 510 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,559 "a penchant for military sport. He was not big or strong, but he had" 511 00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:05,839 "a talent with the explosives, which knew all. He proved even us." 512 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,356 So incredible, and on we go. 513 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,715 "See, Kelley has spoken repeatedly of attacks." 514 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,669 "Bombs in Bonn, Munich, eventually also on the Oktoberfest." 515 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,880 "The strategy was clear: the left Socialists may not again be Chancellor," 516 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,919 "better the lesser of two evils: the ostrich." 517 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,398 "He has left us at least alone." - it was the order prohibiting 518 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,916 Hoffmann military sports group, early 80. 519 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,311 Here is black on white: "gardener says: we were a group of three." 520 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,951 Thus, it completely contradicts the Psychogram of the investigating authorities. 521 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,840 Do you understand? -Jkjk. 522 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,319 This interrogation but no mention in the final report. 523 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,440 Nothing! You have sucked just something up from your fingers. 525 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,716 I'm going to Donaueschingen. 526 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,996 With Dietrich. -You're not serious. 527 00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,116 Yet. 528 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,719 What want to visit you - the family of the charcoal-burner? 529 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,510 Yes, that's the plan. Start from the beginning. 530 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,269 My dear man, smoking but also stereo. 531 00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:27,076 Should you try, is better than Mono. 532 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,037 Mr Chaussy, I have to ask you: 533 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,474 Where did you get these files? -Well... 534 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,590 Mr. Dietrich, you know perfectly well that I you on this question 535 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,878 can give no answer. Informant protection. 536 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:50,191 That is ultimately how... you lawyers. 537 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,072 You have sources which you tell me. 538 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,350 You too. 539 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,229 ULRICH CHAUSSY: Olumide Köhler- 540 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,319 I have no clear picture at all from this person. 541 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,479 GERHARD TANNER: Please, sit down. 543 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,073 ULRICH CHAUSSY: Mr Tanner, I must confess that until now 544 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,880 are my only interview date in Donaueschingen. 545 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,760 This is even more difficult than I had feared. 546 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,399 It is quite easy to understand: Donaueschingen was besieged. 547 00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:28,315 The colleagues of the tabloids were already 548 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,479 Saturday lunch also right here in my Office. 549 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,154 Sunday. -Not Saturday. 550 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,079 Saturday. - No, do you mean 551 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,114 sure Sunday, because you even still, know until Saturday night 552 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,198 that a garrison was Köhler at all among the dead. 553 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,352 GERHARD TANNER: No, I don't mean. 554 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,400 Saturday! 555 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,553 GERHARD TANNER: I don't know, how do you know that. 556 00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:51,509 Thought, which have other ways as we of the regional journal. 557 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,310 I've been holding this in my reporting. 558 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:09,189 So, again, for the record: the press already on Saturday was there? 559 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,316 Yes. 560 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,349 ULRICH CHAUSSY: But the police were there only on Saturday. 561 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,400 Yes, this would mean the press came at the same time? 562 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,717 GERHARD TANNER: Exactly I can not say that. 563 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,198 How do you have this information, please? 564 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,510 No idea. 566 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,474 ULRICH CHAUSSY (resigned): I have to say,. 567 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,593 I have almost no chances in Donaueschingen with people 568 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,077 to get out of Koehler's environment in the conversation. What is it with this former 569 00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:45,994 Triple team? Gardener, Wiegand... 570 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,958 I have no chance, I'm running against a wall. 571 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,910 Maybe I can assist here. 572 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,230 Gundolf was a good friend. 573 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,957 We were pretty tight, so with 17 574 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,320 did music with a friend along. 575 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,713 Rock and so, mainly. 576 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,076 And then the contact is broken? -You can not say that. 577 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,630 There was a dispute, but not between us. 578 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,593 Want to tell me more about it? 579 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,319 I can already make clear. 580 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,873 The Gundolf war...ein little arms fool. 581 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,279 wanted to defend themselves. 582 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,596 so a war frenzy somehow. "The Russians are coming!" 583 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:45,038 Yes, and I got him a friend introduced then, a gun collector. 584 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,630 He wanted to get him a submachine gun. 585 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,037 Garnett gave him 1,200 mark and that he has never seen anything. 586 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,190 ULRICH CHAUSSY: How would you describe because Gundolf Köhler as people? 587 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,394 Because in the press, he was commonly referred to as... Loner described. 588 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,438 Not true at all really. 589 00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:10,997 The Wiegand, the gardener, Gundolf - you were inseparable, 590 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,640 they were best friends! 591 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,752 The three were simply the same shock. 592 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,915 ULRICH CHAUSSY: The sister of the charcoal-burner has agreed to an interview. 593 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:24,236 Just talked to the lawyer. -Oh, what is not true... 594 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,799 Wants to have but the lawyer here, because she is afraid, 595 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,758 to be recovered through the dirt. 596 00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:33,632 She want to wash only her brother in 597 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,758 and make him the poor victim. 598 00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:38,469 Anyway. 599 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,991 I'm sorry, Chaussy, but I can't do with it. 600 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,993 I don't want to do to that me and especially my clients. 601 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,916 I understand. 603 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,680 ULRICH CHAUSSY: good afternoon, Mrs. Köhler. 604 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,277 Doctor Sadula. Ulrich Chaussy. 605 00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:04,598 ULRICH CHAUSSY: Interview with Margot Köhler on October 4, 1983, 606 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,911 We have 11:00. 607 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,678 Mrs. Köhler, you can remember when you come for the first time 608 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,877 have learnt of the assassination? 609 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,750 Yes, I can. 610 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,511 That was the evening show, Friday. 611 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,838 There was this whole terrible images. 612 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:28,038 By Kelley was not the speech. 613 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,836 And when do you have for the first time by the participation of your brother's 614 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,358 information on the assassination attempt? -There's Mr Chaussy starts already. 615 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,714 The alleged involvement of the alleged. 616 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,030 Certainly... 617 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,711 ES...es has over themselves just hit everything. 618 00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:52,599 We went with these terrible images in the bed. 619 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,716 My mother has said in hindsight, they sleep restless night hätte...die, 620 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,190 ALS...als knew you somewhat. 621 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,559 Maternal instinct, maybe. 622 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,632 And already the phone rang the next lunch. 623 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,919 Who called you there? 624 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,151 It was a journalist, Mr Chaussy, 625 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,030 and he started immediately: "What do you say to your brother stops?" 626 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,396 "Dozens dead! Neo-Nazi!" 627 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,475 Mrs. Köhler, that means that you have spoken with the press. 628 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,195 before they were questioned by the police. 629 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,316 Right. 630 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,237 Here nothing has changed since then. 631 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,756 And, Mr. Chaussy, here everything to have begun. 632 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,791 When the forensics dividing our basement, they found a lot here 633 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:02,797 Material: hand grenades, documents - but they were not only lead 634 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,519 by the Wiesnbombe. 635 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:11,752 No explosives, no drawing of the bomb, nothing. 636 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:18,672 Her brother is described also as isolated, young man, 637 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:25,917 perspektivlos, desperate, driven by... Jealousy, hatred. 638 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:31,439 Two weeks before the bomb Garnett completed a building savings scheme contract 639 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,152 and cash paid 800 mark, did you know that? 640 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,554 Over the summer he left with an InterRail-ticket through Europe. 641 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,390 A week before the bomb, he founded a band. 642 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,390 On 27 September, she wanted to meet again to rehearse. 643 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,153 The guys were waiting for him- 644 00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,790 and so goes it on and on... 645 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,590 That sounds like an envisage to a psychopath? 647 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,957 Investigators say, Köhler private bitterness and by the 648 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,876 Universal hatred have been eaten up and therefore become the bomber. 649 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,874 This is untenable. The family 650 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,192 Köhler says Garnett is by far-right sympathies 651 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,917 been completely purified, it appears also to smooth. 652 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,000 There's the faint image of an insecure people. 653 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,553 What really happened and what we should believe in between lies a gap 654 00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:47,396 that only a resumption of the investigation could close. 656 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,710 I'm glad that you take time. Hello, nice to meet you. Werner winter by the quick. 657 00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,759 Ulrich Chaussy. -Ah, Yes, Mr. Chaussy, hi. 658 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,674 You're so in terms of Wiesnattentat on the way, Yes? 659 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,193 What are you working for? 660 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,350 uh, we want something show you, Mr winter. 661 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,554 Did you write that? 663 00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:23,838 Is Werner winter there? Then it says Werner winter. 664 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,714 Then you've researched yourself, 665 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,920 on the ground in Donaueschingen? -All week I was there after the bomb. 666 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:37,437 Where did you get the information? -There was a... Barter? 667 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,791 But journalist, are you? But a journalist, isn't he? 668 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,032 You know how it goes. -What was the reciprocity? 669 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,754 I get what is a beer? 670 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,274 The Mr is also another one and... what was that - raspberry juice? 672 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,156 A red wine. 673 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,231 I read what you once briefly before here: 674 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,757 "The State Government has a ban on the early" 675 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,480 "Advanced military sports group Hoffmann and went" 676 00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,235 "consistently against the rightist scene before." 677 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,596 Sorry, but there but not a single word of it is true. 678 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,156 Ok then. 679 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,590 We have left the Prime Minister out of sight and we have 680 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,674 Get information first-hand. By whom? 682 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,634 Mr winter, they were sometimes long before investigating authorities 683 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,837 When important witnesses, in particular in the field of Köhler. 684 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,435 You could discuss their statements all alone, 685 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,478 Destroy evidence... What were you thinking? 686 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,472 What are you doing now... You know the rule, 687 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,233 how the profession? - Please tell me, 688 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,550 How does the profession. -Do you know how the profession? 689 00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:51,552 That was a huge success for us! 690 00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:52,710 But at what price? -(Applied) nobody else,. 691 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,880 Nobody else has had a good story so soon after the assassination. 692 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,794 Her from the public service already right not, Yes? 693 00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:01,280 Now at once a conspiracy theory 694 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,556 to cobble together, this is ridiculous! - a conspiracy theory 695 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,717 I see absolutely not in the classical sense. 696 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,315 What do you see then, huh? What does he look, the Mr Chaussy? 697 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,279 The Mr Chaussy provides the right terrorists a State protection, 698 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,599 covers. I see police and judiciary, which deliberately twisting the facts and 699 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,719 obscure the truth behind of the fence, and the press, so how do you 700 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:23,433 they represent, celebrates the policy. That's sick of me, to say the least. For the good! 701 00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,835 Thank you for the invitation. 702 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,114 Oh, happy, happy. 703 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,110 ULRICH CHAUSSY (clear throat) - this is all probably a 704 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,840 Number too large for us two. (small laugh) 705 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,078 Why no one writes about Koehler's connection to the right scene? 706 00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:49,356 I would even care. 707 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,678 (Laugh) We know nothing, nothing at all. -like we have documents, files,. 708 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,514 Testimonies, that's all been proven! Just what are you telling? 709 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,196 The protection of the Constitution has ever no insight into the right scene? 710 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,198 Of course, I do not believe it, but makes it better? 711 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,596 This is so the scary. -Maybe we should stop. 712 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,274 That brings everything to nothing at all. 713 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,235 Excuse me? 714 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,550 Are you afraid? 715 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,710 Well, not the worst excuse would be. 716 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,072 Ich habe Frau und zwei Kinder. - Na was denn dann? 717 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,116 Herr Chaussy, 718 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,954 was wir rauskriegen können und was ich unbedingt rauskriegen möchte, 719 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,750 schon allein für meine Mandanten, ist Folgendes: Wer hat alles an der Bombe 720 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,958 mitgebaut, woher kommt der Sprengstoff, wer war mit Köhler auf der Wiesn 721 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,999 und so weiter und so weiter. Aber wer die eigentlichen Hintermänner sind, 722 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,234 die Strippenzieher, das werden wir nicht rausfinden. Nicht jetzt! Das braucht Zeit. 723 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,193 Ja, das ist so in 30, 40 Jahren vielleicht... 724 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,278 Herr Dietrich, ich verstehe ja, was Sie sagen. 725 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,920 Ich mache Ihnen mal einen Vorschlag: 726 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,354 Ich habe jetzt gleich noch einen Termin. 727 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,557 Sie haben mich mal nach meiner Quelle gefragt; 728 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,956 Sie kommen einfach mit zu dem Termin. - Nein, tut mir leid. 729 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,556 Tut mir leid. 730 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:08,950 Gut, dann gehe ich da wohl...alleine hin. 731 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,473 Ich zahle, ist alles gut. 732 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,596 Gut, danke. -Ja. - Schönen Abend. 733 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,360 MEIER: Kommen Sie gut voran? 734 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,239 Ich war in Donaueschingen. 735 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,033 Es stinkt zum Himmel. 736 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,394 Wie meinen Sie das? 737 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,231 Sie wissen doch ganz genau, wovon ich spreche. 738 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,672 Der zeitliche Ablauf, wer wann von was erfuhr... 739 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,229 Wer hat der Presse so früh die Informationen gesteckt? 740 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,199 Nur damit eins klar ist: 741 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,479 Auf das, was damals schief gelaufen ist, hatte ich keinen Einfluss. 742 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,114 Aber ich war Zeuge. 743 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,191 Und? - Wir waren zunächst 744 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,000 von den Entwicklungen überrascht. 745 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,872 Lassen Sie sich gefälligst was einfallen! 47 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,596 Lassen Sie mich kurz allein bitte. 748 00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,679 Gundolf Köhler. 749 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,753 Donaueschingen. 750 00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:46,833 Der Chef des Staatsschutzes hat den 751 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,756 Anruf persönlich getätigt und damit mögliche Mittäter gewarnt? 752 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,400 Glauben Sie mir, ich war absolut entsetzt. - 753 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,631 Auch der Generalbundesanwalt hat getobt. - Ja, das glaube ich. 754 00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,150 Und warum wurde Gundolf Köhler als verrückter Einzeltäter abgestempelt? 755 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,516 Die Ermittlungen der SOKO haben das so ergeben. 756 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,320 Und warum lösen sich dann sämtliche Kontakte zur Wehrsportgruppe Hoffmann 757 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,790 in den Akten in Luft auf? 758 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,629 Wir haben getan, was in unserer Macht stand. Wir haben es nicht beweisen können. 759 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,793 Das tut mir leid, das glaube ich Ihnen schlicht und ergreifend nicht. 760 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,032 Sagt Ihnen der Begriff "Wolfszeit" etwas? - Nein. 761 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,310 Ehrentod - das war unser größtes Problem. 762 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:36,756 Weiter. 763 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,870 Ein Beispiel: Heinz Lembke. Lüneburger Heide. 764 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,078 MEIER: Die SOKO ist bald auf den gestoßen, eigentlich gleich nach dem Anschlag. 765 00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:50,951 Lembke hat die Szene mit Waffen versorgt, unter anderem mit Sprengstoff. 766 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,477 POLIZIST: Sie haben den Sprengstoff nach München geliefert. Es ist nur eine Frage 767 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,558 der Zeit, bis wir Ihnen das nachweisen. 768 00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,874 MEIER: Den lokalen Behörden war Lembke schon längst bekannt als Waffennarr 769 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,193 und Ultrarechter, bestens vernetzt mit der Szene. 770 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,876 Er hatte sogar für die NPD kandidiert. 771 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:11,509 Ich sage aus - 772 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:15,796 morgen. 773 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,599 HEINZ LEMBKE: Eine Bitte habe ich noch: Papier 774 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,560 und einen Stift. 775 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,999 Es ist Wolfszeit. 777 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,914 Aber im Abschlussbericht zum Wiesnattentat wird Lembke nicht mal erwähnt. 778 00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,676 Kein Abgleich, keine Erwähnung, gar nichts! Warum sind die möglichen Verbindungen 779 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,672 zu Köhler nicht mal untersucht worden? 780 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,152 Lembke hätte der Schlüssel zur Klärung dieses Falls sein können! 781 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,599 Möglich. Wolfszeit eben. 782 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,952 Er hat sich, wie heißt es, den Ermittlungen durch Suizid entzogen. 783 00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,875 Was ist denn mit Hoffmann, was ist mit Karl-Heinz Hoffmann passiert? 784 00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,157 Zunächst floh die Gruppe sozusagen ins Exil. 785 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,435 Sie wissen schon: Libanon, zur PLO. - Ja, davon habe ich gehört. 786 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,513 Das lief nicht ganz so gut. - Ganz und gar nicht. 787 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,233 Die Jungs dort in den Terrorcamps sind ein Tick härter als 788 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,392 Hoffmanns Wochenendterroristen. 789 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,199 Die haben es kaum ausgehalten. 790 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,198 Unser Auslandsdienst hat einen Kontakt ausfindig gemacht, dem sich ein 791 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,273 Kofferträger Hoffmanns anvertraut haben soll. 792 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,799 Als der Mann, ein Mitglied der WSG Hoffmann, wieder in Deutschland war, 793 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,474 wollten wir ihn befragen. 794 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,270 Na und? 796 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,359 Hier raus, holt mich hier raus! 800 00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,553 Wolfszeitschuss eben. 801 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,356 Ehrentod. 802 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,998 Sie haben gesagt, Sie haben den Bombenleger Köhler schon 803 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,311 eine Stunde vor der Tat beobachtet? 804 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:34,590 Ja, das war auf der Brausebadinsel, gegenüber vom Tatort. 805 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,551 Ich habe mir gedacht, der Wuschelkopf sucht 806 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,040 wahrscheinlich eine Übernachtung. 807 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:48,670 Der Wuschelkopf? 808 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,959 Ja, der Köhler, wegen seiner dunklen Locken. 809 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:05,156 Der stand da mit noch zwei anderen Männern, der eine war so Mitte 30, 810 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,115 der andere ein bisschen jünger. 811 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,317 Ich wollte eigentlich warten, bis die weg sind. 812 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,353 Aber die haben die ganze Zeit gestritten, 813 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,196 richtig laut. - Und Sie sind sicher, dass es Köhler war? 814 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:27,910 Ganz sicher. 815 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,512 Ich habe ihn dann wieder gesehen, als er über die Straße ist. 816 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,112 Er ist dann auf den Mülleimer zu. 817 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,909 Ich...wollte eigentlich nochmal versuchen, ihn anzusprechen. 818 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,957 Und dann erinnere ich mich eigentlich nur noch an 819 01:01:55,160 --> 01:02:01,509 die Familien mit den Kindern, die grad an mir vorbeigingen. 821 01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:14,790 Und dann war nur noch...der Knall, die Druckwelle 822 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,317 und dann kamen die ersten Schreie. 823 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,831 Ja, ich denke, das reicht erstmal. Sie können gehen, Herr Lauterjung. 824 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,237 KOMMISSAR: Ihre Beobachtungen sind schon arg genau, finden Sie nicht? 825 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,390 Mich interessiert eben ein junger, hübscher Mann. 826 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,514 Lassen Sie den Mann staatsschutzmäßig überprüfen! 827 01:02:58,480 --> 01:02:59,436 Gut. 829 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,838 Sie wollten mich sprechen, Herr Doktor Langemann? 830 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,590 Sie haben den Zeugen Lauterjung abgefragt. 831 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:10,396 Und? 832 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,759 Das ist absolut unglaubwürdig. 833 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,280 Die Schwuchtel war schon für und gegen alles. Also Vorsicht! 835 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,038 HAUSMEISTER: Kann man Ihnen helfen? - Ich suche einen Frank Lauterjung. 836 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,750 Lauterjung? Den habe ich gut gekannt. - Ja? Können Sie mir sagen, 837 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:59,039 wo ich Frank Lauterjung finde? - Ja, auf dem Nordfriedhof. 838 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:00,270 Wie bitte? 839 01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,039 Der ist fertig gemacht worden. 840 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,750 Was meinen Sie mit "fertig gemacht"? Wer hat ihn fertig gemacht? 841 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:11,278 Wer wohl? Die Polizei. Immer wieder Fragen. 842 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,437 Zuerst haben sie ihn als Kronzeugen geführt, der wichtigste Mann überhaupt, 843 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,879 mit Sicherheitsgarantien und so weiter. Und plötzlich, von heute auf morgen 844 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,594 war er nicht mehr glaubwürdig. 845 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,239 Die haben ihn in den Wahnsinn getrieben. 847 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,879 Wann ist er denn gestorben? - Letztes Jahr. 848 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,471 Und woran? Wie alt ist er geworden? 849 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,837 35 ist er geworden. Wissen Sie was? Der Kerl war pumperlgesund 850 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,152 und plötzlich das Herz. Wer's glaubt. 851 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,274 Ich muss jetzt wieder arbeiten. 852 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,475 Ich danke Ihnen. 853 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,673 HANS LANGEMANN: Mein Deckname beim BND 854 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,919 war Doktor Lückrath. "Willkommen im Club" empfing mich General Gehlen. 856 01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,910 "Der Nachrichtendienst braucht analytische Köpfe wie Sie dringend," 857 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,793 "denn die Bedrohungen..." 858 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,476 Es ist dringend. 860 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:08,875 Winter. 861 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,073 Was gibt es denn so dringendes? Sie wissen doch, was ich Ihnen gesagt habe. 862 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,197 Ja, natürlich. "Don't call us, we call you" - 863 01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,238 so wie am Morgen nach dem Attentat. 864 01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,313 Das kommt jetzt alles raus, 865 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,472 auch wer mir die Interna gesteckt hat. 866 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,396 Haben Sie meinen Namen genannt? - Nein, 867 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,556 natürlich nicht. 868 01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,675 Aber der Opferanwalt und sein Rundfunkjournalist vom BR, 869 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,277 die schnüffeln überall umeinander. - Jetzt beruhigen Sie sich. 870 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,113 Die müssen sehr gute Quellen haben. 871 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,956 Die Sache ist abgehakt, auch vom Generalbundesanwalt. 872 01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,670 Der Köhler war's und basta. - Mir kocht ganz schön das Arschwasser, 873 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,759 das kann ich Ihnen sagen - und das sollte es Ihnen auch. 874 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,992 Was war denn eigentlich damals los? Was ist da im Hintergrund gelaufen? 875 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,117 Es hat doch geheißen, ihr habt alles im Griff, 876 01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,351 die rechte Szene, ihr habt da V-Leute. 877 01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:10,357 Was glauben Sie eigentlich, wer Sie sind? Der Ministerpräsident? 878 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,800 Sie können froh sein, dass Sie jahrelang einiges von dem erfahren haben, 879 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,758 was er erfährt. Aber wenn Sie mir so kommen, 880 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,880 ist auch ganz schnell Schluss damit. Und eines kann ich Ihnen sagen, Winter: 881 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:24,751 Wenn es in dieser Sache hart auf hart kommt, ich habe mit alldem nichts zu tun! 882 01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,480 Nichts damit zu tun, ja? 883 01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,718 Nichts damit zu tun - hier! 884 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,880 Einsatztagebuch, Observationsprotokoll. 885 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,872 Das habe ich alles von Ihnen, Herr Ministerialdirigent. 886 01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,077 Winter, wir sollten uns nicht streiten. 887 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,599 Das hilft uns beiden nicht. 888 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,920 Ich kümmere mich darum, versprochen. Ich finde das Leck. 889 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,233 Hinter den Kulissen bin ich nach dem MP der stärkste Mann in Bayern. 890 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,519 Daran hat sich nichts geändert, 891 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,917 und daran wird sich auch nichts ändern. 893 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,712 Ciao, mach's gut. - HANS LANGEMANN: Du auch. 894 01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:49,475 HANS LANGEMANN: Kann ich Ihnen helfen? 895 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,713 Doktor Hans-Georg Langemann? 896 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,079 Kennen wir uns? - Ich glaube nicht. Mein Name ist 897 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,075 Ullrich Chaussy, Bayerischer Rundfunk. Geben Sie mir auch ein Interview? 898 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,637 ULRICH CHAUSSY: Mir liegen nämlich Hinweise vor, dass Sie die Ermittlung 899 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,998 zum Oktoberfestattentat maßgeblich beeinflusst haben. 900 01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,232 Wir haben gar nichts. - Nein? 901 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,313 Sie haben interne Ermittlungserkenntnisse an die Medien weitergeleitet 902 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,000 und das kann ich beweisen. 903 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,869 Dann zeigen Sie mir Ihre Beweise. - Sicher nicht. 904 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:20,879 Was wollen Sie? 905 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,360 Wenn Sie mir schon kein Interview geben, dann beantworten Sie mir doch einfach mal 906 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,196 die Frage, warum die Spur nach Rechts so konsequent ignoriert wurde? 907 01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:33,640 Weil Sie da nämlich eingestehen müssten, 908 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,757 dass Sie die Gefahr komplett verkannt haben, 909 01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,270 und weil Sie so natürlich Ihren Einzeltäter haben, von dem Sie so gerne reden. 910 01:08:40,440 --> 01:08:41,760 Ich habe Ihr Buch gelesen. 911 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,197 Was ich allerdings seltsam finde, ist, dass es ausgerechnet hier kein vorgeschobener 912 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,239 Einzeltäter gewesen sein soll, weil Sie nämlich die Verbindung zu den 913 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,119 Hintermännern gekappt haben. 914 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,518 Sie haben doch gar keine Ahnung, von was Sie da reden. 915 01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:55,636 Nein? 916 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,070 Glauben Sie allen Ernstes, damit würden Sie irgendetwas ändern? 917 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,553 Sie sind doch größenwahnsinnig. 918 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,351 Ja? Das ist alles, was jetzt kommt? 919 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,236 Ich habe mein ganzes Leben lang für diesen Staat gearbeitet. 920 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,476 Alles, was ich je getan habe, war im Interesse und zum Schutz der Demokratie. 921 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,836 Dann schützen Sie doch die Demokratie! 922 01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:25,040 Und jetzt kommt ein so dahergelaufener Schnösel wie Sie und glaubt, 923 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,875 er hat die Moral mit Löffeln gefressen? 924 01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,634 Ich bin ein Bürger dieses Landes und ich möchte, dass Sie Ihren Job machen! 925 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,952 Schützen Sie diesen Staat und keine rechten Terroristen! 926 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,671 Immer fragwürdiger wird die Rolle der bayerischen Staatsschützer in diesem Fall. 927 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:53,397 Sie haben vor dem Attentat die Gefahr von Rechts maßlos unterschätzt und verharmlost, 928 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,029 danach haben sie geheime Ermittlungsergebnisse an die 929 01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:01,320 Presse weitergegeben, mögliche Mitwisser und Mittäter waren vorgewarnt, sie konnten 930 01:10:01,480 --> 01:10:06,077 Spuren verwischen und Absprachen treffen. Was die Staatsschützer von 931 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:10,757 den rechtsextremistischen Akteuren im Hintergrund wirklich wissen, ist unklar. 932 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,596 Klar ist jedoch, dass sie vertuschen wollten, in welchem Ausmaß sie die 933 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,752 rechte Gefahr verkannten. 934 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,637 ULRICH CHAUSSY: Rechtsanwalt Werner Dietrich hat die uns vorliegenden 935 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,953 Erkenntnisse an den Generalbundesanwalt Kurt Rebmann weitergeleitet. 936 01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,033 Die Ermittlungen müssen wieder aufgenommen werden. 937 01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,550 Gedulden Sie sich bitte einen Augenblick! 938 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,956 Die Hinweise, die meiner Behörde vorgelegt wurden, waren uns zum Teil noch nicht 939 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:47,357 bekannt. Deswegen war ihnen nachzugehen. Ich muss aber an dieser Stelle festhalten, 940 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,639 dass es uns nicht möglich war, weitere Beteiligte festzustellen. 941 01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:57,315 Es bleibt dabei: Gundolf Köhler hat als Alleintäter gehandelt. Danke! 942 01:10:57,480 --> 01:10:58,800 ULRICH CHAUSSY (aufgebracht): Das ist doch nicht zu glauben! 944 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:03,076 ULRICH CHAUSSY: Herr Rebmann! 945 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,791 Herr Doktor Rebmann, auf ein Wort bitte! 946 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,555 Haben Sie sich die Hinweise überhaupt angeschaut? 947 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,157 Wenn ja, wie können Sie dann weiterhin auf so plumpe und unverfrorene Art und Weise 948 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,154 die Öffentlichkeit anlügen und behaupten, es gäbe keine Zweifel? 949 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,757 Was wollen Sie denn? Was für Zweifel? Wir haben den Fall aufwendig ermittelt. 950 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,553 Sie haben doch die Ergebnisse, Sie haben die Akten! 951 01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,599 Die habe ich doch an Sie weitergeleitet in der Hoffnung, dass sie intelligent und 952 01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,191 kompetent genug sind, Ihren Abschlussbericht neu zu überdenken. 953 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,033 Herr Doktor Rebmann, Sie haben noch einen Termin. 954 01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,796 Danke! Was glauben Sie denn, wie das Ganze abgelaufen ist? 955 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:35,429 Ich bitte Sie. 956 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:40,592 Er hat nicht alleine gehandelt, das weiß ich und das wissen Sie. 957 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,151 Dann bringen Sie mir doch die Täter, mh? 959 01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,480 Habe ich da gerade richtig gehört? Was hat der gesagt? 960 01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:54,874 Der Fall ist geklärt. 962 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,315 Eine Hand. 963 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,831 Keinem der Opfer fehlt eine Hand. 964 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:12,670 Die Hand. 966 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:30,076 Eine Hand. 967 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,278 Keinem der Opfer fehlt eine Hand. 968 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:43,836 ULRICH CHAUSSY: Die Hand. 969 01:13:44,440 --> 01:13:47,433 Die Hand stammt von einem der Mittäter, die Hand ist der Beweis. 970 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:51,719 LISE CHAUSSY: Du drehst einfach langsam durch. Du spinnst, wirklich. 971 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,600 Hör doch endlich mal damit auf, gib endlich mal Ruhe! 972 01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,320 Wie...was ist los mit dir? - Im BR nennen sie dich schon 973 01:13:57,480 --> 01:14:00,075 "Mr. Oktoberfest", die lachen alle über dich! 974 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,880 Wer nennt mich so, wer lacht über mich? - Ist doch egal! Schlimm genug, 975 01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:04,639 dass du es hast so weit kommen lassen! 976 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,360 Wie weit kommen lassen? - Und jetzt eine Hand, die keinem gehört! 977 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,398 Fingerabdrücke von dieser Hand wurden im Keller 978 01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:10,994 von Köhler gefunden, okay? 979 01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:12,674 (Schreit) Aber es ist nicht Köhlers... - (Schreit) Ich will darüber nichts mehr 980 01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,634 hören, sonst bin ich nämlich weg! Noch ein Wort! 981 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,071 Hier, und glaube nicht, dass ich das alles nicht mitkriege. 982 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,919 Das sind feige Schweine. 983 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,835 Aber was ist, wenn die Typen das ernst meinen, Uli? 984 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,630 Jetzt denk mal bitte nicht nur an dich. - Was heißt hier "denk nicht nur an mich"? 985 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,600 (Wütend) Du hast Politik studiert, Geschichte ist dein Fach! Du weißt, 986 01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,440 wie gefährlich die Rechten sind! - Was ist, wenn mir etwas passiert, hm? 987 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,478 (Aufgebracht) Was machst du dann? - (Schreit) Soll ich etwa einfach aufhören? 988 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,270 (Schreit) Sag, wenn mir was passiert, was ist dann, du Held? 989 01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,473 Ich möchte in fünf Minuten meinen Ehemann draußen sprechen, 990 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,360 ohne diese Akten oder irgendwelche Vorträge! 991 01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,079 ULRICH CHAUSSY (genervt): Schon gut. - Und noch was, Uli... 992 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,471 (Schreit) Ich lass mich nicht unter Druck setzen von dir! 993 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:03,715 Ich bin schwanger. 996 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:23,676 Ja. 997 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,240 Schließen Sie bitte die Tür. 999 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,351 Woher weiß dieser aufgeblasene BR-Journalist, 1000 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,399 was hier im Ministerium nach dem Attentat gelaufen ist? 1001 01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:46,229 Wie meinen Sie das? 1002 01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:50,752 Tun Sie nicht so, als ob Sie von nichts wüssten. 1003 01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,639 HANS LANGEMANN: Sie haben Ihre Ohren doch überall. 1004 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,911 Also was meinen Sie, wer steckt dahinter? 1005 01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:57,555 Das weiß ich nicht. - Spielen Sie nicht 1006 01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,074 das Unschuldslamm! 1007 01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,357 Sie haben die Journalisten eingeladen. 1008 01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,236 Ich weiß noch, wie dieser Winter nach Ihrem Material geschnappt hat wie ein Raubtier. 1009 01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,074 Winter beißt nicht in die Hand, die ihn seit Jahren füttert. 1010 01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:11,952 Da muss ein anderer geplaudert haben. 1011 01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:17,477 Mit Verlaub, Doktor Langemann, das war Ihr "positiver Verfassungsschutz". 1012 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,712 Moment mal - ich bin nicht alleine dafür verantwortlich, 1013 01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,872 was da '80 alles gefingert wurde. 1014 01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,040 Das waren doch Ihre Informanten in der Wehrsportgruppe - 1015 01:17:26,440 --> 01:17:30,593 und auf einmal macht eine Zielperson nach der anderen den Abgang. Wolfszeit! 1016 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,474 Herr Doktor Langemann, ich muss an dieser Stelle festhalten, 1017 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,030 dass ich mir nichts zu Schulden habe kommen lassen. 1018 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,713 Sie haben die Aktion geleitet. Wenn Sie der Meinung sind, ich habe versagt, 1019 01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,311 dann reichen Sie von mir aus Dienstaufsichtsbeschwerde gegen mich ein. 1020 01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:53,959 Wenn ich untergehe, 1021 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,479 dann gehen Sie mit. 1022 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,431 Ach, Sie sind ja noch hier. - Guten Abend, Herr Wagner. 1023 01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,758 Da hat ein Mann nach Ihnen gefragt. - Was für ein Mann? 1024 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,078 Seinen Namen hat er nicht genannt? - Nö. 1025 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:28,952 Danke. - Gute Nacht. 1026 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:30,315 Gute Nacht Ihnen. 1033 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:16,920 AUTOFAHRERIN (aufgeregt): Oh mein Gott, ist Ihnen etwas passiert? 1034 01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:21,632 Ich bin okay. Und Sie? - Ja, alles in Ordnung! 1035 01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:24,470 Es tut mir leid! 1036 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,000 AUTOFAHRER: Alles in Ordnung? - Ja. 1037 01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:40,999 Blumenstrauß für meine Frau. 1038 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:43,476 Können wir den... 1039 01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:47,676 Für meine Frau. 1040 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:50,714 Alles in Ordnung mit dir? 1041 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,876 Ja, hallo ich bin's, Ulrich. Ist Lise bei dir? 1042 01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:44,393 Aha. Könntest du ihr einfach sagen, falls sie auftaucht, 1043 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,799 dass...ich sie liebe und Zuhause auf sie warte? 1045 01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,673 Ich dachte, jetzt bist du weg. 1046 01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:49,600 (Kleinlaut) Hab ich auch gedacht. 1047 01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,712 Es tut mir leid, wie du dich fühlst. Ich... 1048 01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:57,999 Ich will nicht, dass du dich so fühlst. Ich will nicht, 1049 01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,959 dass du das Gefühl hast, du hast keinen Mann und 1050 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,277 bist alleine mit einem Kind in deinem Bauch. 1051 01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,672 Und ich will das nicht. Ich will auch nicht ohne dich leben - 1052 01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:12,673 (Leise) ohne euch leben. 1053 01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:15,349 Ich höre jetzt auf. 1054 01:22:16,480 --> 01:22:18,676 Ich gebe alles Dietrich und 1055 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,073 ich bin jetzt raus. Ich bin... 1056 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,793 wieder da, ja? 1057 01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,954 FERNSEHMODERATOR: Unser nächstes Thema: der Fall Langemann. Letzte Woche 1058 01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,272 hat sich im bayerischen Landtag ein Untersuchungsausschuss 1059 01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:45,072 konstituiert, der nun morgen zum ersten Mal tätig wird, um die Affäre um den 1060 01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,199 obersten bayerischen Staatsschützer zu untersuchen. 1061 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:53,393 Langemann soll eine Fülle vertraulicher und zum Teil auch geheimer Informationen 1062 01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:57,839 an die Öffentlichkeit gebracht haben. Wenn diese Vorwürfe stimmen, 1063 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:03,837 dann wird dabei eine recht anrüchige Verquickung für CSU-Politiker und 1064 01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:09,240 CSU-Funktionäre als Privatleute mit den Sicherheitsbehörden im Sicherheitsapparat 1065 01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,995 und auch den Geheimdiensten sichtbar. 1067 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:30,550 Das war's. 1072 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,118 LISE CHAUSSY: Uli? - Hallo! 1073 01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,591 LISE CHAUSSY: Ah, ich habe schon auf dich gewartet. 1074 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:32,034 Schau dir das mal an, das ist so spannend. - Du und deine Krimis. 1075 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:36,592 Ja, pass auf, aber die versuchen, die alten RAF-Morde mit Hilfe von DNA-Technologien 1076 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,235 neu aufzuarbeiten, weißt du? - Ja, davon habe ich gehört. 1077 01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:44,316 Um die Todesschützen von damals endlich zu stellen. 1078 01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,032 Das sollen die mal mit der Wiesnbombe probieren. 1079 01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:49,316 Ja eben. 1080 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,154 Genau das meine ich. - Ja... 1081 01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:58,830 Was? 1082 01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,869 Aber schau, es ist genau wie damals. 1083 01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,950 Niemand traut sich anscheinend an die Sache ran, dabei liegt es so nah. 1084 01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:07,879 Ich finde dich unglaublich. 1085 01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:20,640 Gut schaust du aus. 1086 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,511 Ist ja eine richtige Vollversammlung hier heute. 1087 01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:29,634 Freu dich nicht zu früh. Es gibt Skeptiker und es gibt Kollegen, 1088 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,200 die können das Thema nicht mehr hören. 1089 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,511 Uli. -Jan. - Sind alle da? 1090 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:34,876 Soll'n ma? 1091 01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,151 ULRICH CHAUSSY: Guten Morgen. - Guten Morgen. 1092 01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:48,112 Es geht um das Oktoberfestattentat. 1093 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,550 Die Ermittler konnten 1980 mit den Beweisstücken, die sie am Tatort 1094 01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:57,033 gefunden haben, nicht allzu viel anfangen. Heute könnten sie Gold wert sein. 1095 01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:01,274 Denn wo damals DNA-Spuren hinterlassen wurden, findet man sie heute noch. 1096 01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:04,239 Zum Beispiel auf dem Fragment einer abgerissenen Hand, 1097 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,916 die in der Asservatenkammer liegt, in Karlsruhe. Man hat serologische 1098 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,232 Untersuchungen angestellt, die Blutgruppe bestimmt - 1099 01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,911 mit dem Ergebnis, dass die Hand weder von Köhler stammt, 1100 01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,994 noch von einem der uns bekannten Opfer. Fingerabdrücke dieser Hand 1101 01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:22,712 wurden aber auf Unterlagen Köhlers gefunden. Das heißt, in Karlsruhe 1102 01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,590 liegt nach wie vor die Hand eines Unbekannten. 1103 01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:30,310 Jemand, der abgetaucht ist? - Zumindest ist dieser Schwerverletzte 1104 01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:32,199 damals in keinem Krankenhaus aufgetaucht. 1105 01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,671 Wieder einmal der große Unbekannte, der im Dunkeln 1106 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,991 verschwunden ist. - ULRICH CHAUSSY: Nur, dass du diesmal 1107 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,914 mit seiner DNA eine eindeutige Personenspur hast. 1108 01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:45,279 Letztendlich geht es hier um die letzte Chance, die Mittäter von damals 1109 01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:48,831 doch noch zu kriegen. Nicht mehr und nicht weniger. 1111 01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,552 Lassen Sie den Unfug endlich. 1112 01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:13,596 Meier? 1113 01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:18,040 Lange nicht gesehen. 1114 01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:23,432 Jetzt mal ehrlich, lieber Herr Chaussy. Sie graben wieder alte Klamotten aus. 1115 01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:30,760 Na ja, die neuen Methoden der Kriminalistik eröffnen bahnbrechende Möglichkeiten 1116 01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:32,673 zur Ermittlung der Täter. 1117 01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,476 Lassen Sie es. 1118 01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,274 Hören Sie endlich auf. 1119 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,160 Das bringt doch nichts. 1120 01:27:43,440 --> 01:27:45,352 Was wollen Sie eigentlich von mir? 1121 01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,680 Sie haben mich schon verstanden. (Tiefer Ausatmer) 1122 01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:57,039 Erinnere ich mich falsch oder haben Sie mir damals die Akten zukommen lassen? 1123 01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,154 Stammen die nicht von Ihnen? 1124 01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:05,072 Chaussy, die Akteure von damals sind heute nicht mehr dabei, 1125 01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,831 und den Opfern helfen Sie auch nicht. 1126 01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,553 Sie reißen nur alte Wunden auf. 1127 01:28:13,480 --> 01:28:15,711 ULRICH CHAUSSY: Warum verstehe ich das eigentlich jetzt erst? 1128 01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,558 Früher wollten Sie sich rächen, heute wollen Sie sich selber schützen. 1129 01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:22,511 Mh? 1130 01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:26,916 Gute Nacht. 1131 01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:45,593 "Sehr geehrte Frau Generalbundesanwältin Harms, Neue technische Möglichkeiten" 1132 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:49,993 "im Bereich der DNA-Bestimmung geben mir Hoffnung, die Hintermänner des Anschlags" 1133 01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:56,634 "auf das Oktoberfest 1980, nach 26 Jahren doch noch ermitteln zu können." 1134 01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,872 "Ich möchte Ihnen von einem persönlichen Gespräch mit Ihrem Vorgänger, Doktor" 1135 01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:05,354 "Kurt Rebmann berichten. Seine Worte waren: Dann bringen Sie mir doch die Täter!" 1136 01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,399 "Frau Generalbundesanwältin, die Möglichkeiten sie zu ermitteln," 1137 01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:13,430 "sind jetzt vorhanden: in der Asservatenkammer Ihrer Behörde." 1139 01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,955 ULRICH CHAUSSY: Was soll das heißen, aus Platzmangel vernichtet? 1140 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,272 Auf wessen...? Wer sind Sie überhaupt? Ich möchte sofort 1141 01:29:57,480 --> 01:29:59,472 den zuständigen Sachbearbeiter sprechen. 1142 01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,275 Hören Sie mir zu. Wir reden hier vom schwersten Anschlag in der 1143 01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:05,272 Bundesrepublik Deutschland. Sie können mir doch nicht erzählen, 1144 01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:08,433 dass Asservate aus Platzgründen vernichtet werden! 1145 01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,396 (Genervt) Wie bitte? Auf wessen Geheiß denn? 1146 01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,916 Wer ist dafür zuständig, wer hat das angeordnet? 1147 01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:22,840 Der Fall ist geklärt... 1149 01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,951 Ach, servus Uli. Da hat gerade ein Herr Meier für dich angerufen. 1150 01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:54,110 Meier? 1151 01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,436 Hat er gesagt, was er will? - Nein. Er hat nur gesagt, 1152 01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,991 du sollst die 11-Uhr-Nachrichten schauen. Die Cseska-Morde sind aufgeklärt. 1153 01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,356 Und wer war's? - Eine Nazi-Gruppe. 1154 01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:04,914 Ist doch genau dein Thema. 1155 01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:06,309 NACHRICHTENSPRECHER: In der türkischen Gemeinde Nürnbergs 1156 01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,273 will man noch nicht so recht dran glauben, 1157 01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:11,439 dass die unheimlichen Killer jetzt tot sein sollen. 1158 01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,671 ULRICH CHAUSSY: "Der rechte Terror habe Deutschland erreicht", so titeln 1159 01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:25,278 die großen Tageszeitungen nach der Aufdeckung der NSU-Mordserie. 1160 01:31:25,440 --> 01:31:30,560 Wirklich erst jetzt? Die Geheimdienste hätten im Fall NSU mit all ihren als 1161 01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,794 V-Leute angeworbenen Neonazis bei der Überwachung gewaltbereiter 1162 01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:39,193 Rechtsextremisten versagt. Wirklich zum ersten Mal? 1163 01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:46,237 Der Anschlag auf das Oktoberfest vom 26. September 1980 ist weitgehend vergessen, 1164 01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,838 aber damals, 1980, waren die weitgehend gleichen 1165 01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,959 Mechanismen des Wegschauens, des Ausblendens, 1166 01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,591 des Nicht-wahr-haben-wollens bereits voll entwickelt, 1167 01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:02,277 wie wir jetzt im Fall NSU mit Erschrecken und Scham erkennen. 89920

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