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Can someone go?
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Police!
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sit down! Put your hands behind your head.
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On the wall! Police!
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Down!
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Terrorists may decisions about freedom
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and lives of others not to tear.
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Who determines the face today
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our trained young socialists? Spinnerte students, from glue
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struggling academics, educators have become wild!
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There are mistakes, there are fakes
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and there's Strauß talking.
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This whelp this self-proclaimed
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Pseudo-Napoleon of Helmut Schmidt!
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This man has no control over itself.
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And that's why he may have really no control over our State!
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You guys are the best, you guys are the best
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Student of Dr. Joseph Goebbels been!
You were one of the best trailers
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Brown ideology have been!
Re the best Nazis, who has ever existed!
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Mr. Chaussy, where is the explosives?
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Listen to me, good man. Storm our apartment, browse
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our apartment found no explosives, and now you ask me,.
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where is the explosives? You can't be serious?
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You were not the first left, are starting to build bombs.
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Jesus Maria...
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Know your superiors in the Bayerischer Rundfunk
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that you want to blow up the system? Since you work...
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Are you threatening me? -We track only
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a note from an absolutely trusted source,
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by a person who affirms that State. -All wonderful...
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Politically motivated acts of violence, in particular terrorist attacks and attacks,
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be committed in most cases by the forward envisage.
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From Caesar to Sissi, from Lincoln to Kennedy
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the puppeteer in a transfigured mist disappear is the fault
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focused on an individual offender, a pawn sacrifice.
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This supposed envisage
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acting but not really alone.
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It just seems so.
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It seems that because he runs like a puppet on invisible threads.
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These threads are capped at the moment of fact
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and they have drawn, disappearing into the darkness.
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This is the decisive moment.
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Is determined in the context of the offender not immediately and discreetly,
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You can find only loose ends that run into the void.
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Thank you.
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Oh, Yes, a still: the Prime Minister has given me with my appointment
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to the head of the State Security Department admitted a personal consultant.
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Accept what is?
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When you need an answer?
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Well, now - or do you not want?
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Of course, Mr. Director. You can count on me.
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Have you looked equal to spare for me?
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you've done something?
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Of course not.
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It is enough apparently today, to live in a shared apartment.
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You have a complete blast.
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Maybe it is now but at the time,
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to move in together?
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Please say "Yes".
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That's me too fast. We are married only a year.
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Positive protection of the Constitution. You need to remember this approach.
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Yes, we need to rethink, gentlemen.
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Our intelligence mission is now more closely linked with the policy.
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We don't just observe and keep everything for us. We give the media,
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selected media, discrete journalists targeted exclusive information.
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This effect.
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Here you go. Ok?
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Sound engineer: Uli, how it looks like? Are you ready?
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ULRICH CHAUSSY: Yes.
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Sound engineer: Und...bitte!
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ULRICH CHAUSSY: military sports is the new fashion of the right-wing extremists.
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Their great role model here: Karl-Heinz Hoffmann, founder of the
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Hoffmann military sports group. You dream of a new SA and train.
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Come on over there!
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Now has Federal Interior Minister Gerhart Baum
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exactly those military sports group is prohibited. It is for years by the Bavarian
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Been tolerated and played down State Government.
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Full coverage!
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House searches at the Hoffmann military sports group
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brought to light weapons, ammunition and explosives.
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Nationwide search in great action to link terrorists.
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But uniformed war games of right-wing extremists
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are for some politicians and authorities but harmless Boy Scout games.
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Look! Hardly we are there, the Devil's going on.
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It goes well. We need no more parking
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If we go for a beer at the Oktoberfest.
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A beer?
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A foryou.
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Car? -Bike.
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Oktoberfest? -Actually not at all.
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I look forward to. -I myself also.
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"A toast, a toast of comfort!"
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"A toast, a toast of comfort!"
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At 10:21 in the evening thousands by flocked
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Main entrance gate of the Oktoberfest on the way home. Hundreds of people
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There were at this point, as the explosive devices exploded.
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Any help comes too late for 12 people, including a boy and two little girls.
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By the force of the blast in the middle of the crowd were even
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further away are residing persons legs ripped off.
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The photos.
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Mr doctor Lafleur? Obermeier, interagency Theresienwiese.
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You already have a suspect? -Yes.
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Gundolf Köhler - what do you know about?
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Due to the degree of injury we assume that he direct
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In addition to the bomb.
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Thank you.
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Query the man.
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Thank you, I no longer need you.
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Lacey, greet you. -Mr President-in Office of the Minister.
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I just came from Bonn.
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Have you prepared anything?
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We must take advantage of the situation. Elections are coming in a week.
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Please let through. Ladies and gentlemen! Let us through!
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Prime Minister (resolved): this is the proof for the complete
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Failure of the Federal Government! Left terror has no place in our country.
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Interior Minister Baum must resign!
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interesting facts about Köhler.
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He was in a military sports group. -He was an active member of ist...er.
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It may be don't believe it.
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Doctor Lafleur, Interior Minister Baum wants the military sports group
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Prohibit Hoffmann. What do you think the risk situation,
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from the point of view of State protection?
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If adult men on the weekend with uniform, steel helmet and welded
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Guns want to run through the Woods, then one shouldn't make it easy.
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The Minister of the interior makes it more important than they really are.
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We play them only in the hands.
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Prime Minister: Write that me Word for word in my speech.
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Happy.
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Prime Minister (upset): Lacey!
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This is a disaster! That falls back on us now!
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This could cost me victory! -How should we respond to the situation,
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Mr President-in-Office of the Minister?
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you can come up with something better!
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Less than 22 hours after the bomb attack on the
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Munich Oktoberfest there is still confusion about perpetrators and motives.
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The Federal Prosecutor has the investigation into the attack on the
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Munich Oktoberfest taken over.
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The bomb massacre in Munich is apparently on the account of the
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Right-wing extremism. The track in this direction became clear today.
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According to the current state of discovery comes as perpetrators of the 21 year old
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Geology student Gundolf Köhler from Donaueschingen to consider.
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News anchor: Köhler was a member of the right-wing
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Military sports group Hoffmann, who has been banned since January.
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Mr. Hoffmann! Mr. Hoffmann!
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News anchor: The leader of the paramilitary organization,
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the graphic designer Karl-Heinz Hoffmann, was arrested at the weekend.
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The decent! It is only against the decent ones!
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Mr. Hoffmann! -Mr. Hoffmann!
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Evidence that Köhler wanted to commit suicide or committed.
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are not available.
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Attorney General does on Rebmann Köhler as Alleintäter,.
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the Bavarian Minister of the Interior Tandler still leaves this question.
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Are the Bayern now completely nuts?
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Can someone please tell me what the are in Munich?
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You have but a roof damage!
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In the investigation of the Munich attack, the investigating authorities are
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Obviously no further. The six right-wing extremists,
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who had been detained after the attack, are all back on the loose.
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Newscaster: The Bavarian Ministry of Interior
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This is confirmed in his assessment,
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It is the Act of an individual.
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We both have appeared here today, to this atrocity, which three years ago
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happened to recall. Let's not forget him. Do you understand
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It was the worst attack against our Republic in the postwar period,
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and you understand the sacrifices, the victim can not forget.
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Mr lawyer Dietrich, as are available to the
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Results of the Federal Prosecutor's Office?
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I don't know any results. I know only rumors.
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Thank you very much. Thank you.
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Mr. Director!
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Mr winter! I'm glad you're here. -Yes. Second for me?
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"Grüß Gott".
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Mr. Assistant Director, can you give me something too the
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Say findings? -No, it's now the hour
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the vented. -You, as a Bavarian State Security Chief,
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were also in demand. -This already, but we Nachrichtendienstler
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have the investigations not led. Maybe we have it so this time
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to do with an envisage. -Thank you.
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After extensive investigations we have come to the conclusion,
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that the assassination of the Oktoberfest on September 26, 1980
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was the deed of a loner.
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Gundolf Köhler from Donaueschingen acted out of personal motives:
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sexual frustration, lack of prospects.
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A political motive could not be detected.
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There is also no evidence of an involvement of another culprit.
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CLIENT: This is yet... but unbelievable!
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I was still there. This is but an insult,
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We cannot accept that! -Of course, but...
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Mr lawyer Dietrich? I'm sorry, my name is Ullrich Chaussy of the
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Bayerischer Rundfunk. A small moment, had time for me?
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We meet next week at the Office, Yes?
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I tell you the same: If you are widow shakers and the
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Want addresses of severely injured victims of assassination
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then, with me, you are wrong. And not to mention at this moment.
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So, if not, please.
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I think that the setting of the investigation raises questions.
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Yes. I absolutely agree with you. - And?
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Well, I've don't want to believe it, as a few days ago
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this rumor came from Karlsruhe, Germany.
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What do you think? You seem a central role within the
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To take the victim organisation. -Do not overdo.
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I represent only a few victims, most are afraid.
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Fear of what?
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What happens here, this is so...so incredibly outrageous and so complex
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There can be already anxious one.
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Listen: Gundolf Köhler, a 21-year-old boy from Donaueschingen,.
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supposedly has a bomb from military...
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built from military explosives, without help, without any leads to
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that could leave, by all safety nets through
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Carry out assassination at the Oktoberfest?
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What do you think, how is it?
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I want to give you no lectures.
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Make your own image if you want.
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Are you a journalist yet.
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(Street sounds, whirring of the bicycle)
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Good morning, Mr. Wagner. -"Grüß Gott".
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and from!
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For the good. -Ah, thank you.
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So, then what you say.
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1... 1, 2. - good.
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Mr doctor lad, what is the principle of your work?
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Work with the people of Nachrichtendienstler...muss.
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He can build any pressure, he must convince
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He must win it, he must...
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Yes, if you want to seduce.
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Yes, Hello, my name is Ullrich Chaussy of the Bayerischer Rundfunk.
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I want to sell you anything...
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You're Yes witness of the attack from the Oktoberfest...
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Ok...
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Excuse me, that I'm interrupting you, but you're Yes witness of the
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Stop by the Oktoberfest and I wanted to ask you,
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If you would talk to me?
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Her name would be mentioned in no way...
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The result of the Federal Prosecutor's Office
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affects some people something strange.
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That is categorically.
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Detractors accuse questionable methods you
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Influencing of witnesses, intimidation even.
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No speech can be really so by intimidation.
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We have only checked the statements of the witnesses.
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Sometimes, you must drill just a little deeper to get at the truth.
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The human memory is shockingly mediocre.
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Ms. Lehmann, excuse me, that I'm interrupting you, but you are witness of the
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Assassination of Oktoberfest and I wanted to ask whether you would be willing
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talk to me? I'm doing a search on
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the background of the assassination.
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Mr Werner Dietrich gave me your number.
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I would meet directly on the Theresienwiese with you.
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Chaussy, good day. -Good day.
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I am delighted that you are still could bring by to meet me.
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I know this is a difficult course for you.
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00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,390
Yes... Actually I wanted to never come here.
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00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,440
Is it okay if I am with the tape running?
301
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But it remains the case that my name is not mentioned?
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00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,555
As discussed. Yes?
305
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,238
You said on the phone that you are on September 26, 1980
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around quarter past ten on the way home
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were so slow? -Yes, so we're here along
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run, to this great welcome arch.
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So you know, this shield,.
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where it says "Welcome to the Oktoberfest". And then I looked to the left
311
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,714
and they saw two men there,
312
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,876
you stood there bent over to a trash can or recycle bin
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and you went what white as wild as a plastic bag.
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00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,035
And then I thought yet, what do you do for there, what are you doing?
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00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:10,039
And dann...wurde's bright, this plastic bag, or what was that, flying high
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and then everything was bright as as a huge ball of light.
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...und then I looked to the left
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00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,714
and these two men saw there...
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I didn't know what I go to.
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There was nothing blocked.
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00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,599
And dann...standen we here
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00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:59,400
and ich...ich see there what lie and say to my friend "what is it?"
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00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:05,432
And it looked like waste, so...so shredded waste and...
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00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,791
and I say dann...dann "the..." This is a dead man."
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00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,880
"This is a dead man!"
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Then I saw wie...wie two legs
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of this waste bucket moves away have,.
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00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,912
so from this light out, which for a few seconds everything
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00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,438
has illuminated and dann...dann there was a scream and then
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There was this deafening bang.
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And then silence.
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00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,516
There, two men stood before this body.
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00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,751
Two guys, one...
339
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:15,197
an elder, so 35 years old and the other was approximately 25 younger, 26 years.
340
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,993
Big, blonde, short hair and he all the time beat wild to
341
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,313
and always screamed "I don't want it! I can't help it! Going to kill me "
342
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,672
"I can't help it! I don't want it!" And the other one, who has tried
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00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,877
to calm him. And I went even to them,
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00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,191
but there was nothing to do more, the...
346
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,912
And then told me, it was the body of the charcoal-burner.
347
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,272
These statements were completely ignored by the investigators.
348
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,000
But why? Which is why? What would be the reason? Why?
349
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,310
Why, Mr Chaussy.
351
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,959
About I racking my head my quite a while.
352
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,117
And, what should you do with the recordings?
353
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,190
Sending, is obvious.
354
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,034
This is good. Very good!
355
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,790
She looks good.
357
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,994
It is incredible that the Federal Prosecutor's Office in this unique
358
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,119
Witness statements can stand still for their final report.
359
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,757
What could be the reason?
360
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,076
I have no idea.
361
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,993
But Köhler was not alone. He had occupied helpers, accomplices, that is.
362
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,672
Maybe you're Yes really at it, as a right
363
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,320
great thing to reveal.
365
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,039
This is scary.
366
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,594
It may of course also be, that I'm completely wrong.
367
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,313
Yes, but if it is as you say, then it is still worth the risk.
368
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,996
In terms of career, that would be a great opportunity.
369
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,351
I hope that I am right. -I honestly don't.
370
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,592
Also somehow scary.
371
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,876
But I am very pleased that your work requires you to.
372
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,437
Good for really you, just reporting about boring stuff.
373
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,310
So, you can find my
374
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,040
Reports so boring. -No!
375
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,800
You know what? The blouse doesn't suit you at all.
377
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,317
Und...Bitte.
378
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,520
Three years ago, 13 people were killed at the Oktoberfest, 200 were
379
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,960
injured, 60 of them difficult. Recently, the investigations are completed,
380
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,672
but the case is not resolved. Köhler was not alone, that have given me
381
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,038
Fact witnesses reported. For example a witness, the Coalfish immediately
382
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,510
has observed before detonating.
383
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,156
BIRGIT WENZEL: ...und then I looked to the left
384
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,040
and saw these two men there.
385
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,916
You stood there bent over as a recycle bin
386
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,960
and you went what white as wild as a plastic bag.
387
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:30,753
Such explosive testimony was not pursued. A further witness:
388
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,357
I would have to describe pretty well that for phantom images. But I have
389
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,752
heard since October 1980 never again by the police.
390
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,320
The investigators come to a comfortable conclusion: Gundolf Köhler, the envisage.
391
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,393
The open questions are not answered.
392
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:52,272
What really happened on September 26, 1980? Who was with Gundolf Köhler
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00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,033
in Munich? And
394
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,238
why is he portrayed envisage, if statements
395
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,354
trusted witnesses prove the opposite?
396
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,918
We are at the end of the evening journal.
397
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,675
I would draw your attention yet, that tomorrow we
398
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,069
at 10: 00 in the programme Bavaria 2...
399
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,557
Congratulations. -...dieses topic will discuss.
400
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,315
And now I wish you have a nice night.
402
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,600
It was very good.
403
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,110
Thank you.
405
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,230
Chaussy?
406
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,600
Who the hell are you?
407
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,074
What kind of information?
408
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,314
Boorowa, Pullach.
409
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,436
Hello? Hello?
410
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:44,920
Easy set up.
411
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,552
It is in the middle of the night, how ever has our number?
412
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,474
I have no idea, but we're not just hiding.
413
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,151
And you want to go out there now really easy?
414
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,750
He said he has important information.
415
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,553
Should I come? -Yes... No!
416
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,399
Don't worry, I'm immediately back.
418
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,593
Come on, let's take a walk.
421
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,878
You said you have information for me?
422
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,553
May I ask who you are?
423
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,192
You may have questions. But I won't tell you.
424
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,397
No name and no mention of me in your future reports,
425
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,712
I could help you out.
426
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,032
Are we clear, Mr Chaussy?
427
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,398
What have you to tell me?
428
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,789
I will like to check your information, we're doing aber...was?
429
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,560
You can try like this.
430
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,515
Call me for all I care "Meier".
431
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,076
Is not my real name, and the name I give you none.
432
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:33,596
Only this much: What happened back then, believe me, at all,
433
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,354
I was very close.
434
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,310
If the Prime Minister was a cold, I knew that.
435
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,316
If deaths in this way on the Oktoberfest, I care even more.
436
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,070
The situation was extremely volatile due to the Act itself,
437
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,074
but especially because of the political dimension.
438
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,597
I would be cautious with allegations in their report.
439
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,755
You accuse our police and justice quite directly the inability
440
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:11,079
and cover-up. I didn't think that you would trust something.
441
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,956
I am only, what many people think.
442
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:17,960
Has that worries you?
443
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,196
No.
444
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,034
Something I like.
445
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,874
I like thoroughness. I'm going to help you.
446
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,879
Uh, can I ask why?
447
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,800
This does nothing to the thing. Let's go a little bit.
448
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,712
How would you help me please?
449
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,476
You work together with lawyer Dietrich.
450
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,640
Are you doing well?
452
00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,829
What do you think?
453
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,353
I mean it, I will help you.
455
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,513
He ultimately not much has given me.
456
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,469
And then, as I said, he was gone.
457
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,870
Puff!
458
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:50,870
Puff.
459
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,915
Tea? -Yes, I got it.
460
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,750
This is like so a transfiguring fog
461
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,479
he hid the truth.
462
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,837
The offer of a witness, to help create a phantom image,
463
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,192
will be rejected. Directly after the fact the number is left-wing in the shoes
464
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,955
pushed, then it acted...
465
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:15,596
Do we not still now breakfast?
466
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,993
It's all so obvious.
467
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,237
Funny that no one else is far now come on it.
468
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,636
that you're the only one who even researched.
469
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,874
yes I think so too. But maybe colleagues might have to soon abandoned,
470
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,714
were they not good enough.
471
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,993
It was capped to much, they were afraid.
472
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,360
I mean, ultimately it's BR internally of course also a hot number.
473
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,152
And how do we go now?
474
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,956
gotta go.
475
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,237
Why is it? -I got to school, I lecture.
476
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,880
Komm... - really.
477
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,400
Oh, you, I really gotta go.
478
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,635
You, I come today just in time to get home and then I throw myself
479
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,634
you like a lion. -If all goes well.
481
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,714
Good afternoon, Mrs. Aibinger.
486
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,719
You really have no idea who sent that to you?
487
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,514
Are even thousands of pages.
488
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,514
I let you try.
489
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,117
ULRICH CHAUSSY: Here, check it out: all the witnesses to testify.
490
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,000
that they have seen Kaka in Munich accompanied by more than one person.
491
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,355
What can I find here?
492
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,200
The interrogation Protocol with Koehler's supposed best friend,
493
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,629
a certain Max Gärtner.
495
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,516
Read times!
496
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,876
"Kelley was a really good guy, you could always absolutely on him"
497
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,960
"leave, if you know what I mean. We talked about everything "
498
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,240
"everything." Huh? I thought Kaka was a loner.
499
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,318
Why do you read the Lacey book?
500
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,952
Because I think it's exciting.
501
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,678
"Question: would you describe Kelley interested politically?"
502
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,991
Answer? -"I can only affirm that."
503
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,834
"We have looked at all the parties, even among the Greens we were."
504
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,038
"Is but everything only scam. We talked openly about it "
505
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,079
"How can take the voters the large. "Even if one the"
506
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:49,756
"familiar faces eliminated, then get the small parties"
507
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,355
"perhaps up to ten per cent." - "question: you have open over"
508
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,752
"political violence speak?" - "Openly."
509
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,520
"Bombs?" - "gardener replies: Kelley had"
510
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,559
"a penchant for military sport. He was not big or strong, but he had"
511
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:05,839
"a talent with the explosives, which knew all. He proved even us."
512
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,356
So incredible, and on we go.
513
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,715
"See, Kelley has spoken repeatedly of attacks."
514
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,669
"Bombs in Bonn, Munich, eventually also on the Oktoberfest."
515
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,880
"The strategy was clear: the left Socialists may not again be Chancellor,"
516
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,919
"better the lesser of two evils: the ostrich."
517
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,398
"He has left us at least alone." - it was the order prohibiting
518
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,916
Hoffmann military sports group, early 80.
519
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,311
Here is black on white: "gardener says: we were a group of three."
520
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,951
Thus, it completely contradicts the Psychogram of the investigating authorities.
521
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,840
Do you understand? -Jkjk.
522
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,319
This interrogation but no mention in the final report.
523
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,440
Nothing! You have sucked just something up from your fingers.
525
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,716
I'm going to Donaueschingen.
526
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,996
With Dietrich. -You're not serious.
527
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,116
Yet.
528
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,719
What want to visit you - the family of the charcoal-burner?
529
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,510
Yes, that's the plan. Start from the beginning.
530
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,269
My dear man, smoking but also stereo.
531
00:41:24,720 --> 00:41:27,076
Should you try, is better than Mono.
532
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,037
Mr Chaussy, I have to ask you:
533
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,474
Where did you get these files? -Well...
534
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,590
Mr. Dietrich, you know perfectly well that I you on this question
535
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,878
can give no answer. Informant protection.
536
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:50,191
That is ultimately how... you lawyers.
537
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,072
You have sources which you tell me.
538
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,350
You too.
539
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:00,229
ULRICH CHAUSSY: Olumide Köhler-
540
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,319
I have no clear picture at all from this person.
541
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,479
GERHARD TANNER: Please, sit down.
543
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,073
ULRICH CHAUSSY: Mr Tanner, I must confess that until now
544
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,880
are my only interview date in Donaueschingen.
545
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,760
This is even more difficult than I had feared.
546
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,399
It is quite easy to understand: Donaueschingen was besieged.
547
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:28,315
The colleagues of the tabloids were already
548
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,479
Saturday lunch also right here in my Office.
549
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,154
Sunday. -Not Saturday.
550
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,079
Saturday.
- No, do you mean
551
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,114
sure Sunday, because you even still, know until Saturday night
552
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,198
that a garrison was Köhler at all among the dead.
553
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,352
GERHARD TANNER: No, I don't mean.
554
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,400
Saturday!
555
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,553
GERHARD TANNER: I don't know, how do you know that.
556
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:51,509
Thought, which have other ways as we of the regional journal.
557
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,310
I've been holding this in my reporting.
558
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:09,189
So, again, for the record: the press already on Saturday was there?
559
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,316
Yes.
560
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,349
ULRICH CHAUSSY: But the police were there only on Saturday.
561
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,400
Yes, this would mean the press came at the same time?
562
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,717
GERHARD TANNER: Exactly I can not say that.
563
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,198
How do you have this information, please?
564
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:26,510
No idea.
566
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,474
ULRICH CHAUSSY (resigned): I have to say,.
567
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,593
I have almost no chances in Donaueschingen with people
568
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,077
to get out of Koehler's environment in the conversation. What is it with this former
569
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:45,994
Triple team? Gardener, Wiegand...
570
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,958
I have no chance, I'm running against a wall.
571
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,910
Maybe I can assist here.
572
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,230
Gundolf was a good friend.
573
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,957
We were pretty tight, so with 17
574
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,320
did music with a friend along.
575
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,713
Rock and so, mainly.
576
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:13,076
And then the contact is broken? -You can not say that.
577
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,630
There was a dispute, but not between us.
578
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,593
Want to tell me more about it?
579
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,319
I can already make clear.
580
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,873
The Gundolf war...ein little arms fool.
581
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,279
wanted to defend themselves.
582
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,596
so a war frenzy somehow. "The Russians are coming!"
583
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:45,038
Yes, and I got him a friend introduced then, a gun collector.
584
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,630
He wanted to get him a submachine gun.
585
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,037
Garnett gave him 1,200 mark and that he has never seen anything.
586
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,190
ULRICH CHAUSSY: How would you describe because Gundolf Köhler as people?
587
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,394
Because in the press, he was commonly referred to as... Loner described.
588
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,438
Not true at all really.
589
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:10,997
The Wiegand, the gardener, Gundolf - you were inseparable,
590
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:12,640
they were best friends!
591
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,752
The three were simply the same shock.
592
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,915
ULRICH CHAUSSY: The sister of the charcoal-burner has agreed to an interview.
593
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:24,236
Just talked to the lawyer. -Oh, what is not true...
594
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,799
Wants to have but the lawyer here, because she is afraid,
595
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,758
to be recovered through the dirt.
596
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:33,632
She want to wash only her brother in
597
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,758
and make him the poor victim.
598
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:38,469
Anyway.
599
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,991
I'm sorry, Chaussy, but I can't do with it.
600
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,993
I don't want to do to that me and especially my clients.
601
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,916
I understand.
603
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,680
ULRICH CHAUSSY: good afternoon, Mrs. Köhler.
604
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,277
Doctor Sadula. Ulrich Chaussy.
605
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:04,598
ULRICH CHAUSSY: Interview with Margot Köhler on October 4, 1983,
606
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,911
We have 11:00.
607
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,678
Mrs. Köhler, you can remember when you come for the first time
608
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,877
have learnt of the assassination?
609
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:16,750
Yes, I can.
610
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,511
That was the evening show, Friday.
611
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,838
There was this whole terrible images.
612
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:28,038
By Kelley was not the speech.
613
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,836
And when do you have for the first time by the participation of your brother's
614
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,358
information on the assassination attempt? -There's Mr Chaussy starts already.
615
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,714
The alleged involvement of the alleged.
616
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,030
Certainly...
617
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,711
ES...es has over themselves just hit everything.
618
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:52,599
We went with these terrible images in the bed.
619
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,716
My mother has said in hindsight, they sleep restless night hätte...die,
620
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,190
ALS...als knew you somewhat.
621
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,559
Maternal instinct, maybe.
622
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,632
And already the phone rang the next lunch.
623
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,919
Who called you there?
624
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,151
It was a journalist, Mr Chaussy,
625
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,030
and he started immediately: "What do you say to your brother stops?"
626
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,396
"Dozens dead! Neo-Nazi!"
627
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,475
Mrs. Köhler, that means that you have spoken with the press.
628
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,195
before they were questioned by the police.
629
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,316
Right.
630
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,237
Here nothing has changed since then.
631
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,756
And, Mr. Chaussy, here everything to have begun.
632
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,791
When the forensics dividing our basement, they found a lot here
633
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:02,797
Material: hand grenades, documents - but they were not only lead
634
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,519
by the Wiesnbombe.
635
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:11,752
No explosives, no drawing of the bomb, nothing.
636
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:18,672
Her brother is described also as isolated, young man,
637
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:25,917
perspektivlos, desperate, driven by... Jealousy, hatred.
638
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:31,439
Two weeks before the bomb Garnett completed a building savings scheme contract
639
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,152
and cash paid 800 mark, did you know that?
640
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,554
Over the summer he left with an InterRail-ticket through Europe.
641
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,390
A week before the bomb, he founded a band.
642
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,390
On 27 September, she wanted to meet again to rehearse.
643
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,153
The guys were waiting for him-
644
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,790
and so goes it on and on...
645
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,590
That sounds like an envisage to a psychopath?
647
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,957
Investigators say, Köhler private bitterness and by the
648
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,876
Universal hatred have been eaten up and therefore become the bomber.
649
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,874
This is untenable. The family
650
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,192
Köhler says Garnett is by far-right sympathies
651
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,917
been completely purified, it appears also to smooth.
652
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,000
There's the faint image of an insecure people.
653
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,553
What really happened and what we should believe in between lies a gap
654
00:49:43,720 --> 00:49:47,396
that only a resumption of the investigation could close.
656
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,710
I'm glad that you take time. Hello, nice to meet you. Werner winter by the quick.
657
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,759
Ulrich Chaussy. -Ah, Yes, Mr. Chaussy, hi.
658
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,674
You're so in terms of Wiesnattentat on the way, Yes?
659
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,193
What are you working for?
660
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,350
uh, we want something show you, Mr winter.
661
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,554
Did you write that?
663
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:23,838
Is Werner winter there? Then it says Werner winter.
664
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,714
Then you've researched yourself,
665
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,920
on the ground in Donaueschingen? -All week I was there after the bomb.
666
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:37,437
Where did you get the information? -There was a... Barter?
667
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,791
But journalist, are you? But a journalist, isn't he?
668
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,032
You know how it goes. -What was the reciprocity?
669
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:46,754
I get what is a beer?
670
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,274
The Mr is also another one and... what was that - raspberry juice?
672
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:53,156
A red wine.
673
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,231
I read what you once briefly before here:
674
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,757
"The State Government has a ban on the early"
675
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,480
"Advanced military sports group Hoffmann and went"
676
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,235
"consistently against the rightist scene before."
677
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,596
Sorry, but there but not a single word of it is true.
678
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,156
Ok then.
679
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,590
We have left the Prime Minister out of sight and we have
680
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,674
Get information first-hand. By whom?
682
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,634
Mr winter, they were sometimes long before investigating authorities
683
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,837
When important witnesses, in particular in the field of Köhler.
684
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,435
You could discuss their statements all alone,
685
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,478
Destroy evidence... What were you thinking?
686
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,472
What are you doing now... You know the rule,
687
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,233
how the profession? - Please tell me,
688
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:49,550
How does the profession. -Do you know how the profession?
689
00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:51,552
That was a huge success for us!
690
00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:52,710
But at what price? -(Applied) nobody else,.
691
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,880
Nobody else has had a good story so soon after the assassination.
692
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,794
Her from the public service already right not, Yes?
693
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:01,280
Now at once a conspiracy theory
694
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,556
to cobble together, this is ridiculous! - a conspiracy theory
695
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,717
I see absolutely not in the classical sense.
696
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,315
What do you see then, huh? What does he look, the Mr Chaussy?
697
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,279
The Mr Chaussy provides the right terrorists a State protection,
698
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,599
covers. I see police and judiciary, which deliberately twisting the facts and
699
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,719
obscure the truth behind of the fence, and the press, so how do you
700
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:23,433
they represent, celebrates the policy. That's sick of me, to say the least. For the good!
701
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:31,835
Thank you for the invitation.
702
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,114
Oh, happy, happy.
703
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:39,110
ULRICH CHAUSSY (clear throat) - this is all probably a
704
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,840
Number too large for us two. (small laugh)
705
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,078
Why no one writes about Koehler's connection to the right scene?
706
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:49,356
I would even care.
707
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,678
(Laugh) We know nothing, nothing at all. -like we have documents, files,.
708
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,514
Testimonies, that's all been proven! Just what are you telling?
709
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,196
The protection of the Constitution has ever no insight into the right scene?
710
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,198
Of course, I do not believe it, but makes it better?
711
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,596
This is so the scary. -Maybe we should stop.
712
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,274
That brings everything to nothing at all.
713
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,235
Excuse me?
714
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,550
Are you afraid?
715
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,710
Well, not the worst excuse would be.
716
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,072
Ich habe Frau und zwei Kinder. - Na was denn dann?
717
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,116
Herr Chaussy,
718
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,954
was wir rauskriegen können und was ich unbedingt rauskriegen möchte,
719
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,750
schon allein für meine Mandanten, ist Folgendes: Wer hat alles an der Bombe
720
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,958
mitgebaut, woher kommt der Sprengstoff, wer war mit Köhler auf der Wiesn
721
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,999
und so weiter und so weiter. Aber wer die eigentlichen Hintermänner sind,
722
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:40,234
die Strippenzieher, das werden wir nicht rausfinden. Nicht jetzt! Das braucht Zeit.
723
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,193
Ja, das ist so in 30, 40 Jahren vielleicht...
724
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,278
Herr Dietrich, ich verstehe ja, was Sie sagen.
725
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,920
Ich mache Ihnen mal einen Vorschlag:
726
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,354
Ich habe jetzt gleich noch einen Termin.
727
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,557
Sie haben mich mal nach meiner Quelle gefragt;
728
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,956
Sie kommen einfach mit zu dem Termin. - Nein, tut mir leid.
729
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,556
Tut mir leid.
730
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:08,950
Gut, dann gehe ich da wohl...alleine hin.
731
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,473
Ich zahle, ist alles gut.
732
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,596
Gut, danke. -Ja. - Schönen Abend.
733
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:32,360
MEIER: Kommen Sie gut voran?
734
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:36,239
Ich war in Donaueschingen.
735
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,033
Es stinkt zum Himmel.
736
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,394
Wie meinen Sie das?
737
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,231
Sie wissen doch ganz genau, wovon ich spreche.
738
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,672
Der zeitliche Ablauf, wer wann von was erfuhr...
739
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,229
Wer hat der Presse so früh die Informationen gesteckt?
740
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,199
Nur damit eins klar ist:
741
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,479
Auf das, was damals schief gelaufen ist, hatte ich keinen Einfluss.
742
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,114
Aber ich war Zeuge.
743
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,191
Und? - Wir waren zunächst
744
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:14,000
von den Entwicklungen überrascht.
745
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,872
Lassen Sie sich gefälligst was einfallen!
47
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,596
Lassen Sie mich kurz allein bitte.
748
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,679
Gundolf Köhler.
749
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:42,753
Donaueschingen.
750
00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:46,833
Der Chef des Staatsschutzes hat den
751
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,756
Anruf persönlich getätigt und damit mögliche Mittäter gewarnt?
752
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,400
Glauben Sie mir, ich war absolut entsetzt. -
753
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,631
Auch der Generalbundesanwalt hat getobt. - Ja, das glaube ich.
754
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,150
Und warum wurde Gundolf Köhler als verrückter Einzeltäter abgestempelt?
755
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,516
Die Ermittlungen der SOKO haben das so ergeben.
756
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,320
Und warum lösen sich dann sämtliche Kontakte zur Wehrsportgruppe Hoffmann
757
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,790
in den Akten in Luft auf?
758
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,629
Wir haben getan, was in unserer Macht stand. Wir haben es nicht beweisen können.
759
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,793
Das tut mir leid, das glaube ich Ihnen schlicht und ergreifend nicht.
760
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,032
Sagt Ihnen der Begriff "Wolfszeit" etwas? - Nein.
761
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,310
Ehrentod - das war unser größtes Problem.
762
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:36,756
Weiter.
763
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,870
Ein Beispiel: Heinz Lembke. Lüneburger Heide.
764
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,078
MEIER: Die SOKO ist bald auf den gestoßen, eigentlich gleich nach dem Anschlag.
765
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:50,951
Lembke hat die Szene mit Waffen versorgt, unter anderem mit Sprengstoff.
766
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,477
POLIZIST: Sie haben den Sprengstoff nach München geliefert. Es ist nur eine Frage
767
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,558
der Zeit, bis wir Ihnen das nachweisen.
768
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,874
MEIER: Den lokalen Behörden war Lembke schon längst bekannt als Waffennarr
769
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,193
und Ultrarechter, bestens vernetzt mit der Szene.
770
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,876
Er hatte sogar für die NPD kandidiert.
771
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:11,509
Ich sage aus -
772
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:15,796
morgen.
773
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,599
HEINZ LEMBKE: Eine Bitte
habe ich noch: Papier
774
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:24,560
und einen Stift.
775
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,999
Es ist Wolfszeit.
777
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,914
Aber im Abschlussbericht zum Wiesnattentat
wird Lembke nicht mal erwähnt.
778
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,676
Kein Abgleich, keine Erwähnung, gar nichts!
Warum sind die möglichen Verbindungen
779
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,672
zu Köhler nicht mal untersucht worden?
780
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,152
Lembke hätte der Schlüssel
zur Klärung dieses Falls sein können!
781
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,599
Möglich. Wolfszeit eben.
782
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,952
Er hat sich, wie heißt es, den
Ermittlungen durch Suizid entzogen.
783
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,875
Was ist denn mit Hoffmann, was ist
mit Karl-Heinz Hoffmann passiert?
784
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,157
Zunächst floh die Gruppe
sozusagen ins Exil.
785
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,435
Sie wissen schon: Libanon, zur PLO.
- Ja, davon habe ich gehört.
786
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,513
Das lief nicht ganz so gut.
- Ganz und gar nicht.
787
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,233
Die Jungs dort in den
Terrorcamps sind ein Tick härter als
788
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,392
Hoffmanns Wochenendterroristen.
789
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,199
Die haben es kaum ausgehalten.
790
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,198
Unser Auslandsdienst hat einen Kontakt
ausfindig gemacht, dem sich ein
791
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,273
Kofferträger Hoffmanns
anvertraut haben soll.
792
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,799
Als der Mann, ein Mitglied der WSG
Hoffmann, wieder in Deutschland war,
793
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,474
wollten wir ihn befragen.
794
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,270
Na und?
796
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,359
Hier
raus, holt mich hier raus!
800
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,553
Wolfszeitschuss eben.
801
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,356
Ehrentod.
802
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:25,998
Sie haben gesagt, Sie
haben den Bombenleger Köhler schon
803
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,311
eine Stunde vor der Tat beobachtet?
804
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:34,590
Ja, das war auf der
Brausebadinsel, gegenüber vom Tatort.
805
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,551
Ich habe mir gedacht,
der Wuschelkopf sucht
806
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,040
wahrscheinlich eine Übernachtung.
807
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:48,670
Der Wuschelkopf?
808
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,959
Ja, der Köhler, wegen seiner
dunklen Locken.
809
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:05,156
Der stand da mit noch zwei anderen
Männern, der eine war so Mitte 30,
810
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,115
der andere ein bisschen jünger.
811
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,317
Ich wollte eigentlich warten,
bis die weg sind.
812
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,353
Aber die haben die ganze Zeit gestritten,
813
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,196
richtig laut.
- Und Sie sind sicher, dass es Köhler war?
814
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:27,910
Ganz sicher.
815
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,512
Ich habe ihn dann wieder gesehen,
als er über die Straße ist.
816
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,112
Er ist dann auf den Mülleimer zu.
817
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,909
Ich...wollte eigentlich nochmal
versuchen, ihn anzusprechen.
818
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,957
Und dann erinnere ich mich
eigentlich nur noch an
819
01:01:55,160 --> 01:02:01,509
die Familien mit den Kindern,
die grad an mir vorbeigingen.
821
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:14,790
Und dann war nur noch...der
Knall, die Druckwelle
822
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,317
und dann kamen die ersten Schreie.
823
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,831
Ja, ich denke, das reicht erstmal. Sie
können gehen, Herr Lauterjung.
824
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,237
KOMMISSAR: Ihre Beobachtungen sind
schon arg genau, finden Sie nicht?
825
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,390
Mich interessiert eben ein
junger, hübscher Mann.
826
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,514
Lassen Sie den Mann
staatsschutzmäßig überprüfen!
827
01:02:58,480 --> 01:02:59,436
Gut.
829
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:05,838
Sie wollten mich
sprechen, Herr Doktor Langemann?
830
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,590
Sie haben den Zeugen Lauterjung abgefragt.
831
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:10,396
Und?
832
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,759
Das ist absolut unglaubwürdig.
833
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,280
Die Schwuchtel war schon für und
gegen alles. Also Vorsicht!
835
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,038
HAUSMEISTER: Kann man Ihnen helfen?
- Ich suche einen Frank Lauterjung.
836
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,750
Lauterjung? Den habe ich gut gekannt.
- Ja? Können Sie mir sagen,
837
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:59,039
wo ich Frank Lauterjung finde?
- Ja, auf dem Nordfriedhof.
838
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:00,270
Wie bitte?
839
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,039
Der ist fertig gemacht worden.
840
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,750
Was meinen Sie mit "fertig gemacht"?
Wer hat ihn fertig gemacht?
841
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:11,278
Wer wohl? Die Polizei. Immer wieder Fragen.
842
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,437
Zuerst haben sie ihn als Kronzeugen
geführt, der wichtigste Mann überhaupt,
843
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:19,879
mit Sicherheitsgarantien und so weiter.
Und plötzlich, von heute auf morgen
844
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,594
war er nicht mehr glaubwürdig.
845
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,239
Die haben ihn in den Wahnsinn getrieben.
847
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,879
Wann ist er denn gestorben?
- Letztes Jahr.
848
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,471
Und woran? Wie alt ist er geworden?
849
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,837
35 ist er geworden. Wissen Sie was?
Der Kerl war pumperlgesund
850
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:42,152
und plötzlich das Herz.
Wer's glaubt.
851
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,274
Ich muss jetzt wieder arbeiten.
852
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:46,475
Ich danke Ihnen.
853
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:51,673
HANS LANGEMANN: Mein Deckname beim BND
854
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,919
war Doktor Lückrath. "Willkommen im
Club" empfing mich General Gehlen.
856
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,910
"Der Nachrichtendienst braucht
analytische Köpfe wie Sie dringend,"
857
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:02,793
"denn die Bedrohungen..."
858
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,476
Es ist dringend.
860
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:08,875
Winter.
861
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:14,073
Was gibt es denn so dringendes? Sie
wissen doch, was ich Ihnen gesagt habe.
862
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,197
Ja, natürlich. "Don't call
us, we call you" -
863
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,238
so wie am Morgen nach dem Attentat.
864
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,313
Das kommt jetzt alles raus,
865
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,472
auch wer mir die Interna gesteckt hat.
866
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,396
Haben Sie meinen Namen genannt?
- Nein,
867
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,556
natürlich nicht.
868
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,675
Aber der Opferanwalt und sein
Rundfunkjournalist vom BR,
869
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:42,277
die schnüffeln überall umeinander.
- Jetzt beruhigen Sie sich.
870
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,113
Die müssen sehr gute Quellen haben.
871
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,956
Die Sache ist abgehakt, auch
vom Generalbundesanwalt.
872
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:51,670
Der Köhler war's und basta.
- Mir kocht ganz schön das Arschwasser,
873
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,759
das kann ich Ihnen sagen -
und das sollte es Ihnen auch.
874
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,992
Was war denn eigentlich damals los?
Was ist da im Hintergrund gelaufen?
875
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,117
Es hat doch geheißen,
ihr habt alles im Griff,
876
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,351
die rechte Szene, ihr habt da V-Leute.
877
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:10,357
Was glauben Sie eigentlich, wer
Sie sind? Der Ministerpräsident?
878
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,800
Sie können froh sein, dass Sie jahrelang
einiges von dem erfahren haben,
879
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,758
was er erfährt. Aber wenn
Sie mir so kommen,
880
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,880
ist auch ganz schnell Schluss damit.
Und eines kann ich Ihnen sagen, Winter:
881
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:24,751
Wenn es in dieser Sache hart auf hart
kommt, ich habe mit alldem nichts zu tun!
882
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,480
Nichts damit zu tun, ja?
883
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,718
Nichts damit zu tun - hier!
884
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,880
Einsatztagebuch, Observationsprotokoll.
885
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,872
Das habe ich alles von Ihnen,
Herr Ministerialdirigent.
886
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,077
Winter, wir sollten uns nicht streiten.
887
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,599
Das hilft uns beiden nicht.
888
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,920
Ich kümmere mich darum,
versprochen. Ich finde das Leck.
889
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,233
Hinter den Kulissen bin ich nach dem
MP der stärkste Mann in Bayern.
890
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,519
Daran hat sich nichts geändert,
891
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:11,917
und daran wird sich auch nichts ändern.
893
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,712
Ciao, mach's gut.
- HANS LANGEMANN: Du auch.
894
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:49,475
HANS LANGEMANN: Kann ich Ihnen helfen?
895
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,713
Doktor Hans-Georg Langemann?
896
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,079
Kennen wir uns?
- Ich glaube nicht. Mein Name ist
897
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:58,075
Ullrich Chaussy, Bayerischer Rundfunk.
Geben Sie mir auch ein Interview?
898
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,637
ULRICH CHAUSSY: Mir liegen nämlich
Hinweise vor, dass Sie die Ermittlung
899
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,998
zum Oktoberfestattentat
maßgeblich beeinflusst haben.
900
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,232
Wir haben gar nichts.
- Nein?
901
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,313
Sie haben interne Ermittlungserkenntnisse
an die Medien weitergeleitet
902
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,000
und das kann ich beweisen.
903
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,869
Dann zeigen Sie mir Ihre Beweise.
- Sicher nicht.
904
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:20,879
Was wollen Sie?
905
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,360
Wenn Sie mir schon kein Interview geben,
dann beantworten Sie mir doch einfach mal
906
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,196
die Frage, warum die Spur nach Rechts
so konsequent ignoriert wurde?
907
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:33,640
Weil Sie da nämlich eingestehen müssten,
908
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,757
dass Sie die Gefahr komplett
verkannt haben,
909
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:40,270
und weil Sie so natürlich Ihren Einzeltäter
haben, von dem Sie so gerne reden.
910
01:08:40,440 --> 01:08:41,760
Ich habe Ihr Buch gelesen.
911
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,197
Was ich allerdings seltsam finde, ist, dass
es ausgerechnet hier kein vorgeschobener
912
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,239
Einzeltäter gewesen sein soll, weil
Sie nämlich die Verbindung zu den
913
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,119
Hintermännern gekappt haben.
914
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,518
Sie haben doch gar keine Ahnung,
von was Sie da reden.
915
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:55,636
Nein?
916
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,070
Glauben Sie allen Ernstes, damit
würden Sie irgendetwas ändern?
917
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,553
Sie sind doch größenwahnsinnig.
918
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:09,351
Ja? Das ist alles, was jetzt kommt?
919
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:14,236
Ich habe mein ganzes Leben
lang für diesen Staat gearbeitet.
920
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,476
Alles, was ich je getan habe, war im
Interesse und zum Schutz der Demokratie.
921
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,836
Dann schützen Sie doch die Demokratie!
922
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:25,040
Und jetzt kommt ein so dahergelaufener
Schnösel wie Sie und glaubt,
923
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,875
er hat die Moral mit Löffeln gefressen?
924
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,634
Ich bin ein Bürger dieses Landes und
ich möchte, dass Sie Ihren Job machen!
925
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,952
Schützen Sie diesen Staat und
keine rechten Terroristen!
926
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,671
Immer fragwürdiger wird die Rolle der
bayerischen Staatsschützer in diesem Fall.
927
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:53,397
Sie haben vor dem Attentat die Gefahr von
Rechts maßlos unterschätzt und verharmlost,
928
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,029
danach haben sie geheime
Ermittlungsergebnisse an die
929
01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:01,320
Presse weitergegeben, mögliche Mitwisser
und Mittäter waren vorgewarnt, sie konnten
930
01:10:01,480 --> 01:10:06,077
Spuren verwischen und Absprachen
treffen. Was die Staatsschützer von
931
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:10,757
den rechtsextremistischen Akteuren im
Hintergrund wirklich wissen, ist unklar.
932
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,596
Klar ist jedoch, dass sie vertuschen
wollten, in welchem Ausmaß sie die
933
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,752
rechte Gefahr verkannten.
934
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,637
ULRICH CHAUSSY: Rechtsanwalt Werner
Dietrich hat die uns vorliegenden
935
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:23,953
Erkenntnisse an den Generalbundesanwalt
Kurt Rebmann weitergeleitet.
936
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,033
Die Ermittlungen müssen
wieder aufgenommen werden.
937
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,550
Gedulden Sie sich bitte einen Augenblick!
938
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,956
Die Hinweise, die meiner Behörde vorgelegt
wurden, waren uns zum Teil noch nicht
939
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:47,357
bekannt. Deswegen war ihnen nachzugehen.
Ich muss aber an dieser Stelle festhalten,
940
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,639
dass es uns nicht möglich war,
weitere Beteiligte festzustellen.
941
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:57,315
Es bleibt dabei: Gundolf Köhler hat
als Alleintäter gehandelt. Danke!
942
01:10:57,480 --> 01:10:58,800
ULRICH CHAUSSY (aufgebracht):
Das ist doch nicht zu glauben!
944
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:03,076
ULRICH CHAUSSY: Herr Rebmann!
945
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,791
Herr Doktor Rebmann, auf ein Wort bitte!
946
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,555
Haben Sie sich die Hinweise
überhaupt angeschaut?
947
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,157
Wenn ja, wie können Sie dann weiterhin auf
so plumpe und unverfrorene Art und Weise
948
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,154
die Öffentlichkeit anlügen und
behaupten, es gäbe keine Zweifel?
949
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,757
Was wollen Sie denn? Was für Zweifel?
Wir haben den Fall aufwendig ermittelt.
950
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:21,553
Sie haben doch die Ergebnisse,
Sie haben die Akten!
951
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,599
Die habe ich doch an Sie weitergeleitet in
der Hoffnung, dass sie intelligent und
952
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:28,191
kompetent genug sind, Ihren
Abschlussbericht neu zu überdenken.
953
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,033
Herr Doktor Rebmann, Sie
haben noch einen Termin.
954
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:33,796
Danke! Was glauben Sie denn,
wie das Ganze abgelaufen ist?
955
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:35,429
Ich bitte Sie.
956
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:40,592
Er hat nicht alleine gehandelt,
das weiß ich und das wissen Sie.
957
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,151
Dann bringen Sie mir doch die Täter, mh?
959
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,480
Habe ich da gerade richtig gehört?
Was hat der gesagt?
960
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:54,874
Der Fall ist geklärt.
962
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,315
Eine Hand.
963
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,831
Keinem der Opfer fehlt eine Hand.
964
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:12,670
Die Hand.
966
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:30,076
Eine Hand.
967
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,278
Keinem der Opfer fehlt eine Hand.
968
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:43,836
ULRICH CHAUSSY: Die Hand.
969
01:13:44,440 --> 01:13:47,433
Die Hand stammt von einem der
Mittäter, die Hand ist der Beweis.
970
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:51,719
LISE CHAUSSY: Du drehst einfach
langsam durch. Du spinnst, wirklich.
971
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,600
Hör doch endlich mal damit auf,
gib endlich mal Ruhe!
972
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,320
Wie...was ist los mit dir?
- Im BR nennen sie dich schon
973
01:13:57,480 --> 01:14:00,075
"Mr. Oktoberfest", die
lachen alle über dich!
974
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,880
Wer nennt mich so, wer lacht über mich?
- Ist doch egal! Schlimm genug,
975
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:04,639
dass du es hast so weit kommen lassen!
976
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,360
Wie weit kommen lassen?
- Und jetzt eine Hand, die keinem gehört!
977
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:09,398
Fingerabdrücke von
dieser Hand wurden im Keller
978
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:10,994
von Köhler gefunden, okay?
979
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:12,674
(Schreit) Aber es ist nicht Köhlers...
- (Schreit) Ich will darüber nichts mehr
980
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,634
hören, sonst bin ich nämlich
weg! Noch ein Wort!
981
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:20,071
Hier, und glaube nicht, dass ich
das alles nicht mitkriege.
982
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:31,919
Das sind feige Schweine.
983
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,835
Aber was ist, wenn die Typen
das ernst meinen, Uli?
984
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,630
Jetzt denk mal bitte nicht nur an dich.
- Was heißt hier "denk nicht nur an mich"?
985
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:41,600
(Wütend) Du hast Politik studiert,
Geschichte ist dein Fach! Du weißt,
986
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,440
wie gefährlich die Rechten sind!
- Was ist, wenn mir etwas passiert, hm?
987
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:46,478
(Aufgebracht) Was machst du dann?
- (Schreit) Soll ich etwa einfach aufhören?
988
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:50,270
(Schreit) Sag, wenn mir was
passiert, was ist dann, du Held?
989
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,473
Ich möchte in fünf Minuten
meinen Ehemann draußen sprechen,
990
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,360
ohne diese Akten oder
irgendwelche Vorträge!
991
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,079
ULRICH CHAUSSY (genervt): Schon gut.
- Und noch was, Uli...
992
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,471
(Schreit) Ich lass mich nicht
unter Druck setzen von dir!
993
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:03,715
Ich bin schwanger.
996
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:23,676
Ja.
997
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,240
Schließen Sie bitte die Tür.
999
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,351
Woher weiß dieser
aufgeblasene BR-Journalist,
1000
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,399
was hier im Ministerium nach
dem Attentat gelaufen ist?
1001
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:46,229
Wie meinen Sie das?
1002
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:50,752
Tun Sie nicht so, als ob Sie
von nichts wüssten.
1003
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,639
HANS LANGEMANN: Sie haben
Ihre Ohren doch überall.
1004
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,911
Also was meinen Sie, wer steckt dahinter?
1005
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:57,555
Das weiß ich nicht.
- Spielen Sie nicht
1006
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,074
das Unschuldslamm!
1007
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,357
Sie haben die Journalisten eingeladen.
1008
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:06,236
Ich weiß noch, wie dieser Winter nach Ihrem
Material geschnappt hat wie ein Raubtier.
1009
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,074
Winter beißt nicht in die Hand,
die ihn seit Jahren füttert.
1010
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:11,952
Da muss ein anderer geplaudert haben.
1011
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:17,477
Mit Verlaub, Doktor Langemann, das
war Ihr "positiver Verfassungsschutz".
1012
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,712
Moment mal - ich bin nicht
alleine dafür verantwortlich,
1013
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,872
was da '80 alles gefingert wurde.
1014
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,040
Das waren doch Ihre Informanten
in der Wehrsportgruppe -
1015
01:17:26,440 --> 01:17:30,593
und auf einmal macht eine Zielperson
nach der anderen den Abgang. Wolfszeit!
1016
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,474
Herr Doktor Langemann, ich muss
an dieser Stelle festhalten,
1017
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,030
dass ich mir nichts zu Schulden
habe kommen lassen.
1018
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,713
Sie haben die Aktion geleitet. Wenn Sie
der Meinung sind, ich habe versagt,
1019
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:43,311
dann reichen Sie von mir aus
Dienstaufsichtsbeschwerde gegen mich ein.
1020
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:53,959
Wenn ich untergehe,
1021
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,479
dann gehen Sie mit.
1022
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,431
Ach, Sie sind ja noch hier.
- Guten Abend, Herr Wagner.
1023
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,758
Da hat ein Mann nach Ihnen gefragt.
- Was für ein Mann?
1024
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,078
Seinen Namen hat er nicht genannt?
- Nö.
1025
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:28,952
Danke.
- Gute Nacht.
1026
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:30,315
Gute Nacht Ihnen.
1033
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:16,920
AUTOFAHRERIN (aufgeregt): Oh mein
Gott, ist Ihnen etwas passiert?
1034
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:21,632
Ich bin okay. Und Sie?
- Ja, alles in Ordnung!
1035
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:24,470
Es tut mir leid!
1036
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,000
AUTOFAHRER: Alles in Ordnung?
- Ja.
1037
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:40,999
Blumenstrauß für meine Frau.
1038
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:43,476
Können wir den...
1039
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:47,676
Für meine Frau.
1040
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:50,714
Alles in Ordnung mit dir?
1041
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,876
Ja, hallo ich bin's, Ulrich.
Ist Lise bei dir?
1042
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:44,393
Aha. Könntest du ihr einfach
sagen, falls sie auftaucht,
1043
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:49,799
dass...ich sie liebe und
Zuhause auf sie warte?
1045
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:46,673
Ich dachte, jetzt bist du weg.
1046
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:49,600
(Kleinlaut) Hab ich auch gedacht.
1047
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,712
Es tut mir leid, wie du dich fühlst. Ich...
1048
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:57,999
Ich will nicht,
dass du dich so fühlst. Ich will nicht,
1049
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,959
dass du das Gefühl hast,
du hast keinen Mann und
1050
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,277
bist alleine mit einem
Kind in deinem Bauch.
1051
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:10,672
Und ich will das nicht. Ich will
auch nicht ohne dich leben -
1052
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:12,673
(Leise) ohne euch leben.
1053
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:15,349
Ich höre jetzt auf.
1054
01:22:16,480 --> 01:22:18,676
Ich gebe alles Dietrich und
1055
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,073
ich bin jetzt raus. Ich bin...
1056
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,793
wieder da, ja?
1057
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,954
FERNSEHMODERATOR: Unser nächstes
Thema: der Fall Langemann. Letzte Woche
1058
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:39,272
hat sich im bayerischen Landtag
ein Untersuchungsausschuss
1059
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:45,072
konstituiert, der nun morgen zum ersten
Mal tätig wird, um die Affäre um den
1060
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,199
obersten bayerischen
Staatsschützer zu untersuchen.
1061
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:53,393
Langemann soll eine Fülle vertraulicher und
zum Teil auch geheimer Informationen
1062
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:57,839
an die Öffentlichkeit gebracht haben.
Wenn diese Vorwürfe stimmen,
1063
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:03,837
dann wird dabei eine recht anrüchige
Verquickung für CSU-Politiker und
1064
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:09,240
CSU-Funktionäre als Privatleute mit den
Sicherheitsbehörden im Sicherheitsapparat
1065
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,995
und auch den Geheimdiensten sichtbar.
1067
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:30,550
Das war's.
1072
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,118
LISE CHAUSSY: Uli?
- Hallo!
1073
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:26,591
LISE CHAUSSY: Ah, ich habe
schon auf dich gewartet.
1074
01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:32,034
Schau dir das mal an, das ist so spannend.
- Du und deine Krimis.
1075
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:36,592
Ja, pass auf, aber die versuchen, die alten
RAF-Morde mit Hilfe von DNA-Technologien
1076
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,235
neu aufzuarbeiten, weißt du?
- Ja, davon habe ich gehört.
1077
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:44,316
Um die Todesschützen von
damals endlich zu stellen.
1078
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,032
Das sollen die mal mit der
Wiesnbombe probieren.
1079
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:49,316
Ja eben.
1080
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,154
Genau das meine ich.
- Ja...
1081
01:24:57,840 --> 01:24:58,830
Was?
1082
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,869
Aber schau, es ist genau wie damals.
1083
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:05,950
Niemand traut sich anscheinend an
die Sache ran, dabei liegt es so nah.
1084
01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:07,879
Ich finde dich unglaublich.
1085
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:20,640
Gut schaust du aus.
1086
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,511
Ist ja eine richtige
Vollversammlung hier heute.
1087
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:29,634
Freu dich nicht zu früh. Es gibt
Skeptiker und es gibt Kollegen,
1088
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,200
die können das Thema nicht mehr hören.
1089
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,511
Uli. -Jan.
- Sind alle da?
1090
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:34,876
Soll'n ma?
1091
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,151
ULRICH CHAUSSY: Guten Morgen.
- Guten Morgen.
1092
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:48,112
Es geht um das
Oktoberfestattentat.
1093
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,550
Die Ermittler konnten 1980 mit den
Beweisstücken, die sie am Tatort
1094
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:57,033
gefunden haben, nicht allzu viel anfangen.
Heute könnten sie Gold wert sein.
1095
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:01,274
Denn wo damals DNA-Spuren hinterlassen
wurden, findet man sie heute noch.
1096
01:26:01,440 --> 01:26:04,239
Zum Beispiel auf dem Fragment
einer abgerissenen Hand,
1097
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,916
die in der Asservatenkammer liegt,
in Karlsruhe. Man hat serologische
1098
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,232
Untersuchungen angestellt,
die Blutgruppe bestimmt -
1099
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,911
mit dem Ergebnis, dass die Hand
weder von Köhler stammt,
1100
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:17,994
noch von einem der uns bekannten
Opfer. Fingerabdrücke dieser Hand
1101
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:22,712
wurden aber auf Unterlagen Köhlers
gefunden. Das heißt, in Karlsruhe
1102
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,590
liegt nach wie vor die Hand
eines Unbekannten.
1103
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:30,310
Jemand, der abgetaucht ist?
- Zumindest ist dieser Schwerverletzte
1104
01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:32,199
damals in keinem Krankenhaus aufgetaucht.
1105
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,671
Wieder einmal der
große Unbekannte, der im Dunkeln
1106
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,991
verschwunden ist.
- ULRICH CHAUSSY: Nur, dass du diesmal
1107
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,914
mit seiner DNA eine eindeutige
Personenspur hast.
1108
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:45,279
Letztendlich geht es hier um die letzte
Chance, die Mittäter von damals
1109
01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:48,831
doch noch zu kriegen. Nicht
mehr und nicht weniger.
1111
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,552
Lassen Sie den Unfug endlich.
1112
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:13,596
Meier?
1113
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:18,040
Lange nicht gesehen.
1114
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:23,432
Jetzt mal ehrlich, lieber Herr Chaussy.
Sie graben wieder alte Klamotten aus.
1115
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:30,760
Na ja, die neuen Methoden der Kriminalistik
eröffnen bahnbrechende Möglichkeiten
1116
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:32,673
zur Ermittlung der Täter.
1117
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:34,476
Lassen Sie es.
1118
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,274
Hören Sie endlich auf.
1119
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,160
Das bringt doch nichts.
1120
01:27:43,440 --> 01:27:45,352
Was wollen Sie eigentlich von mir?
1121
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:49,680
Sie haben mich schon verstanden.
(Tiefer Ausatmer)
1122
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:57,039
Erinnere ich mich falsch oder haben Sie
mir damals die Akten zukommen lassen?
1123
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:59,154
Stammen die nicht von Ihnen?
1124
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:05,072
Chaussy, die Akteure von damals
sind heute nicht mehr dabei,
1125
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,831
und den Opfern helfen Sie auch nicht.
1126
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,553
Sie reißen nur alte Wunden auf.
1127
01:28:13,480 --> 01:28:15,711
ULRICH CHAUSSY: Warum verstehe
ich das eigentlich jetzt erst?
1128
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,558
Früher wollten Sie sich rächen, heute
wollen Sie sich selber schützen.
1129
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:22,511
Mh?
1130
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:26,916
Gute Nacht.
1131
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:45,593
"Sehr geehrte Frau Generalbundesanwältin
Harms, Neue technische Möglichkeiten"
1132
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:49,993
"im Bereich der DNA-Bestimmung geben mir
Hoffnung, die Hintermänner des Anschlags"
1133
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:56,634
"auf das Oktoberfest 1980, nach 26
Jahren doch noch ermitteln zu können."
1134
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,872
"Ich möchte Ihnen von einem persönlichen
Gespräch mit Ihrem Vorgänger, Doktor"
1135
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:05,354
"Kurt Rebmann berichten. Seine Worte waren:
Dann bringen Sie mir doch die Täter!"
1136
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,399
"Frau Generalbundesanwältin, die
Möglichkeiten sie zu ermitteln,"
1137
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:13,430
"sind jetzt vorhanden: in der
Asservatenkammer Ihrer Behörde."
1139
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,955
ULRICH CHAUSSY: Was soll das
heißen, aus Platzmangel vernichtet?
1140
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,272
Auf wessen...? Wer sind Sie
überhaupt? Ich möchte sofort
1141
01:29:57,480 --> 01:29:59,472
den zuständigen Sachbearbeiter sprechen.
1142
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,275
Hören Sie mir zu. Wir reden hier
vom schwersten Anschlag in der
1143
01:30:03,440 --> 01:30:05,272
Bundesrepublik Deutschland. Sie
können mir doch nicht erzählen,
1144
01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:08,433
dass Asservate aus Platzgründen
vernichtet werden!
1145
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,396
(Genervt) Wie bitte? Auf
wessen Geheiß denn?
1146
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,916
Wer ist dafür zuständig,
wer hat das angeordnet?
1147
01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:22,840
Der Fall ist geklärt...
1149
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,951
Ach, servus Uli. Da hat gerade ein
Herr Meier für dich angerufen.
1150
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:54,110
Meier?
1151
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:57,436
Hat er gesagt, was er will?
- Nein. Er hat nur gesagt,
1152
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,991
du sollst die 11-Uhr-Nachrichten schauen.
Die Cseska-Morde sind aufgeklärt.
1153
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,356
Und wer war's?
- Eine Nazi-Gruppe.
1154
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:04,914
Ist doch genau dein Thema.
1155
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:06,309
NACHRICHTENSPRECHER: In der
türkischen Gemeinde Nürnbergs
1156
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,273
will man noch nicht so recht dran glauben,
1157
01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:11,439
dass die unheimlichen Killer
jetzt tot sein sollen.
1158
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,671
ULRICH CHAUSSY: "Der rechte Terror
habe Deutschland erreicht", so titeln
1159
01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:25,278
die großen Tageszeitungen nach der
Aufdeckung der NSU-Mordserie.
1160
01:31:25,440 --> 01:31:30,560
Wirklich erst jetzt? Die Geheimdienste
hätten im Fall NSU mit all ihren als
1161
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,794
V-Leute angeworbenen Neonazis bei
der Überwachung gewaltbereiter
1162
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:39,193
Rechtsextremisten versagt.
Wirklich zum ersten Mal?
1163
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:46,237
Der Anschlag auf das Oktoberfest vom 26.
September 1980 ist weitgehend vergessen,
1164
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,838
aber damals, 1980, waren
die weitgehend gleichen
1165
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,959
Mechanismen des Wegschauens,
des Ausblendens,
1166
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,591
des Nicht-wahr-haben-wollens
bereits voll entwickelt,
1167
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:02,277
wie wir jetzt im Fall NSU mit
Erschrecken und Scham erkennen.
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