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This program me contains
very strong language.
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For a few years now,
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someone who I trusted
on my personal Instagram account
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has been consistently informing
the Sun newspaper
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of my private posts.
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I came up with an idea.
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I blocked everyone from viewing
my stories except for one account.
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I posted a series of false stories
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to see if they found their way into
The Sun.
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And you know what? They did.
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It's...
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...Re be ka h Va rdy's account.
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A very public row has broken
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out between the wives
of two high-profile footballers.
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She conducted an undercover
sting operation.
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Feels like the start of something
quite explosive.
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Rebekah Vardy has announced this
week that she plans
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to sue Coleen Rooney for defamation.
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On one side is Coleen Rooney.
TV presenter, columnist
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and wife of former England
footballer, Wayne Rooney.
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On the other side is Rebekah Vardy,
former model, reality TV contestant,
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and wife of Leicester City striker,
Jamie Vardy.
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I've been in touch with Coleen
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and she was hoping it could get
solved without having
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to go to the High Court. I mean look
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this is gonna be costing
over millions,
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court is very scary.
Not a nice place to be.
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But neither were gonna back down
and neither was gonna say sorry.
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Coleen does feels he had
every right to out Rebekah on this.
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Why is everyone so fascinated by
this story?
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Revenge, vengeance,
people can't get enough of it,
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I mean, broadsheet papers,
the tabloid papers,
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people in the supermarket saying
to each other "what do you think?
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"Do you think she did it? Do you
think she didn't do it?"
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Is there really any doubt that she
did it? It's fascinating.
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I think every emoji that could have
been hit was hit,
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every WhatsApp group chat lit up.
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I'm not saying that Coleen's a bad
person
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and as someone that's been in this
industry now for
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a long time with her level
of following,
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if you post this, this is what's
gonna happen.
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She's had quite a lot of bad press
anyway.
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She's somebody who does rub people
up the wrong way.
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Because people don't like her as
much as they like Coleen.
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What happens here if she is telling
the truth and she didn't do it?
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Court rise.
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My Lady. On the 9th of October 2019,
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Mrs Rooney accused Mrs Vardy
of being
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the person who had regularly leaked
information about her
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from her private Instagram account
to The Sun newspaper.
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As a result, Mrs Vardy and her
family were subjected to abuse
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and threats of a really
horrific nature.
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But, the allegation in
the post was false.
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Mrs Vardy had not leaked
information about Mrs Rooney.
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There is a great focus in
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Mrs Rooney's argument in this trial
on the role of Caroline Watt.
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Ms Watt and Mrs Vardy were
great friends
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over a number of years in addition
to their professional relationship.
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The court will hear a lot about
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the WhatsApp messages
they exchanged.
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Mrs Vardy accepts that it is
possible that
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Ms Watt had some involvement in
the leaking
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of information from Mrs Rooney's
private Instagram account.
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That is not something she knew
anything about
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and it is something that she didn't
approve of or authorised Ms Watt to do.
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Mrs Vardy doesn't actually
know what happened.
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All she knows is what she did.
And she knows it wasn't her.
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Thank you. My Lady, with the court's
permission, I'll call Mrs Vardy.
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Court room 13 was packed full
of journalists.
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We knew this was
going to be dramatic.
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Rooney was represented by
David Sherborne,
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one of the most highly paid
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and formidable lawyers in
the country.
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He has three clays
to dismantle Vardy's story
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and to destroy her credibility.
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Mrs Vardy.
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You would agree that
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to secretly pass on somebody else's
information that didn't want it
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to be shared with
the outside world is wrong?
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Yes, my Lady.
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Would you say that you respect other
people's privacy?
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Yes, I do.
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Well, let's test that.
We're back in 2004.
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Ancl you gave The News of
the World this interview
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about having had sex with Peter
Andre.
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"Peter's shaved, slobbery,
lasts five minutes
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"and then falls asleep. Peter
was tiny, she sighs.
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"Smallest trouser equipment
I've ever seen.
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"When he pulled down his pants,
I couldn't believe it.
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"|t was like a miniature chipolata."
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Your words, Mrs Vardy?
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Yes, my Lady. Can I give you a bit
of history on that one?
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Well, I would rather you answer
my question.
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Do you think it was respectful
of Mr Andre,
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to have told all this
to Sun readers?
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It is horrible.
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Ancl would I ever do something like
that again?
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Not in a million years.
It is not nice.
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I was very young and I've
apologised for this.
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|t's...shameful reading that
and it's one of my biggest regrets.
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What the defence is trying
to do here
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is paint and allege
a picture of Vardy having
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a long history of telling people's
personal information
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to national journalists.
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One of the strange features
of this trial
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was that it centred on someone who
never actually testified.
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That's Rebekah Vardy's former PR
agent and friend, Caroline Watt.
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Both Rooney and Vardy agreed that Watt
could have been leaking stories to The Sun.
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The question was,
did Vardy know she was doing it?
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Vardy claimed that she didn't.
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The challenge for her was how
to explain away
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the evidence to the contrary.
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I make this statement in support
of my claim
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for libel against Coleen Rooney.
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I first met Caroline Watt in 2016,
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when I decided to take on
professional media help.
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I liked her and I thought she
was funny,
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our children were very similar ages
and we bonded over that.
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I gave Caroline sole access
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to my Instagram account when
I was appearing on I'm a Celebrity.
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Did you tell Mrs Rooney that
Ms Watt had access,
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through your account,
to her private Instagram account?
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No, and I didn't tell
lots of other followers the same.
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Ancl do you feel strongly that as
your agent she should be able
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to read everyone's private
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information without their knowledge
through the use of your account?
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No, but to the best of my knowledge I
didn't know that's what was happening.
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Ancl if she was, that would be wrong?
Correct.
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Ancl if you knew she was doing that,
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that would make you responsible as
well, wouldn't it?
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Yes, but I didn't know that that's
what was happening.
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So you say, Mrs Vardy, so you say.
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Can I now ask you to turn to
the first bundle, D.
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This is an exchange between you
and Caroline Watt, is that right?
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Yes.
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We see you start this exchange
at 8.49am.
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What does "FFS" stand for?
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Um...
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It's fine.
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"For Fuck's Sake."
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I just wanted to be clear before
I read it as that.
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If you leak someone's information,
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now that's not a nice thing
to do, is it,
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we can agree on that, can't we?
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Yes, but I didn't leak anything.
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I genuinely can't remember who we
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were discussing in this
conversation.
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And, when I say "leak"...
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...| have very strong beliefs on
promoting positive body imaging
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and it actually wasn't meant
to read like that at all.
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What I meant was,
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can we not do a positive
body campaign.
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Which I then went on
the following year
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and did a positive body campaign.
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WhatsApp is used in English.
That is the language,
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and you do use the word "leak,"
don't you?
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I did use the word "leak,"
but that's not what I meant.
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I wanted to do a story promoting
positive body imaging.
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Ancl if you are doing a story,
then how is that a leak?
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Because...that's not what I meant to
say.
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It wasn't meant to be a leak.
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Oh, I see.
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You don't know what
the word "leak" means then?
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Well, there are two meanings to it,
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but that's not what I meant when
I said the word "leak."
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Can we turn then to
the next example?
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You message Ms Watt out of the blue.
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"OMG, have you seen how badly
Mrs F is behaving."
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Mrs F is a well-known celebrity,
right? That's correct, yes.
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We have the names in
the confidential schedule
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so I am going to be very careful not
to identify them.
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Mr H is the estranged husband.
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Ancl Mr G is a well-known footballer.
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You instructed Caroline to leak
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a story about Mrs F cheating on her
husband by having sex with
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a well-known footballer behind his
back.
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Isn't that what you say there?
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That's the way it reads,
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but I was actually just joking about
that one.
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You were just joking, were you?
Yes, I was.
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But Ms Watt doesn't think
you're joking, does she?
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Because she says, "I tried before
but The Sun already knew about it
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"and couldn't prove it as usual."
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Now, you don't respond
to that by saying,
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"Oh, I'm only joking, Caroline.
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"I didn't really mean for you
to leak it",
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what you say is "Ugh,"
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you're annoyed that you can't leak
it, aren't you?
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No, I'm disgusted.
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Going back to the first comment
with the behaviour.
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|t's...it's more like a yuck not
an ugh.
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Really?
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You want this court to believe that?
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Mrs Watt and myself have been
friends for
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a very long time.
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Our WhatsApps were
sometimes outrageous,
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sometimes totally inappropriate
but these are
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a lot of conversations that are
between friends,
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gossiping and poking fun
about people,
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and yes, they don't read very well.
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But, there's always explanations
for them.
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Rebekah Vardy didn't grow up part of
the media elite.
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She actually grew up on council
estates and became homeless at 15.
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PHONE RINGS
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But, after marrying one of
the biggest footballers in
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the country, she began to establish
a public profile of her own.
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She appeared on TV, I'm A Celebrity
and Loose Women,
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and she was constantly
featured in the press.
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But now, that very same media that
had helped her rise
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to fame sat in judgement on her,
in literally the seats
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a jury would normally sit in.
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Live Tweeting to the public as
Rooney's team continued their attack.
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The next accusation was
of underhand methods in
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the way that Vardy tried
to boost her press profile.
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Mrs Robertson, please feel free to
sit. Thank you.
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Harpreet Robinson claimed
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Vardy sat in seats that weren't
allocated to her at the Euros 2016.
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Robertson suspected Vardy sat there
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so she could be photographed next
to Rooney by the press.
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Can we talk about
the Euros 2016 game?
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You said an issue arose as
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to whether Rebekah Vardy was in
the right seats? Yes.
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Can you just explain
the process briefly as
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to how you decide who sits where in
a game?
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Well, prior to the match, I would
do a recce of the stadium
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and then I would work out which
seats to allocate to various groups.
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I was trying to avoid
the families of
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the footballers sitting together.
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Because we'd seen on previous tournaments
that this had become a distraction.
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I wanted the football to be
the focus of the tournament.
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In relation to Mrs Vardy's seating,
what issue arose?
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Her guests were sitting in my seats.
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It meant that I didn't have a seat or
the security guards that I was with.
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We had to find somewhere else.
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In terms of what happened when
you spoke
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to Mrs Vardy's party, can you
just give
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a little explanation as
to what was said to you?
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I mean, this is the bit that...
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...it was the worst sort
of moment I've had working on
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a match up until that point.
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She was told to fuck off.
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I absolutely didn't tell her that
at all.
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Can we turn to the next page?
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Your Euro Diary, it's your column
in The Sun.
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Ms Caroline Watt has arranged
for you to have
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a column in The Sun, hasn't she?
That's correct, yes.
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You've clone well. I suppose you
could call it that.
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This is you getting a chance
to promote yourself in The Sun?
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No, this is an opportunity
for me to be able
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to earn my own money.
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I never wanted to rely on
my husband.
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I wanted to earn my own money
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and there were opportunities
that arose.
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Now, this is the article you wrote
after the Wales game.
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"I was sitting just behind
Coleen Rooney watching
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"the game and we'd
a chat before it started."
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That's gratuitous, isn't it?
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No, I think it's stating
the obvious.
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I mean, the pictures speak for
themselves.
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Let me help you, Mrs Vardy.
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The reason you wanted
to put this in is
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because it boosts your public
profile, doesn't it?
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That's just ridiculous.
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What you don't say is you were
sitting behind Mrs Rooney
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because you deliberately went
and sat there,
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even though they weren't your seats.
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That's nonsense. Absolute nonsense.
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Well, someone is not telling the
truth. Either you or Mrs Robertson.
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I think she's...
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...has either got confused or it's
what she's been told to say.
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What she's been told to say?
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Who has she been told
to say this by?
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I don't know. I'm just speculating,
my Lady.
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What were you speculating?
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Perhaps you can tell us.
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That maybe she got her wires crossed
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or that she...got the wrong end of
the stick.
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So, you're quite prepared, in this
court, to throw around
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an accusation that Mrs Robertson has
not been telling the truth.
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Well, I don't believe her statement.
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Let's come on to some other examples
of you providing other people's
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information they don't
want published.
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Danny Drink water was another
professional footballer, yes?
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Yes.
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On the 8th April 2019, you message
Caroline Watt.
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Is this another joke?
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Another conversation between you
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and Ms Watt which is not real
English?
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No, it's absolutely not a joke.
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It is not a joke
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because you say you want money in
return for this story, don't you?
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It was a fleeting thought
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and one I didn't consider any
more than when I wrote it.
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What on earth does that mean,
that answer?
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Can you just explain that?
"It was a fleeting thought."
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I meant in the context that it was
something terrible that had originated.
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That I had seen on social media.
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|'m...deeply affected by
drink driving.
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My ex-husband killed two people
during our marriage
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and it was something that
I felt was outrageous,
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and at the time I didn't
care whether
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the information came out or not.
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It was something that
rightly should,
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someone should have to deal with
and if they've got expensive lawyers
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the chances are they won't have
to deal with it.
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They were going to get away with it.
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You meant it when you said,
"I want paying for this."
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No, it wasn't a serious comment.
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It was not a serious comment?
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Well, we will see how seriously
Ms Watt takes it in a minute.
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Look what Caroline Watt says.
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You say "He's in big trouble." Now,
you don't come back and say,
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"What on earth are you doing sending
it to Andy Halls, a Sun journalist?"
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No, I didn't and for that,
I can only apologise.
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The messages are not good,
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but it was something that really
affected me in the instance.
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Very, very badly in the past.
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Caroline Watt says to you...
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To which you respond...
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So, what are you angry about when
you say,
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"Fuck, someone already tipped it."
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I'm not angry at all.
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00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,815
Again, it's just the way we spoke
to each other.
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You're fuming because someone else
beat you to it.
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00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,735
That's not true at all, I was annoyed
that I didn't give it to Caroline earlier.
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00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,735
Why?
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I don't know.
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00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,535
Mrs Vardy, I am
going to ask you again.
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Why are you fuming that you didn't
give it to Caroline earlier?
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I don't know.
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00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,935
Mrs Vardy, I'm going to ask you
to take the supplemental bundle.
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Can you turn, please, to page 273.
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This is your witness statement,
isn't it?
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Yes. Can I just read
the statement of truth there.
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"I believe that the facts stated in
this witness statement are true."
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And you understood, didn't you,
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00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:16,455
how important it was
to get this document right?
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Ancl you know the consequences
of getting it wrong.
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Yes.
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00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,775
I have sometimes been caught up in
the heat of the moment
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during conversations with Caroline where
I have talked about "leaks" and payment.
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This was the kind
of jokey chat that Caroline
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and I would have from time to time.
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She would be speaking to journalists
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and they would give her gossip
and try and get stories.
346
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,415
These kinds of conversations were
part of
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the strange celebrity gossip world
I have come to inhabit.
348
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,975
But, these conversations were
never serious
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and Caroline would have
understood that.
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Mrs Vardy...
351
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,375
...do you still stand by that
evidence?
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00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,735
That in all those conversations that
we've seen,
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you were never being serious
354
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,895
and Caroline understood that you
were never being serious?
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00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,735
Yes, or no, please, Mrs Vardy. Yes.
356
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,095
Apart from the Danny Drink water one.
357
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:31,495
Oh, I see, so there is an exception,
is there?
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00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,935
Why on earth then did you not say in
the statement,
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00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,935
I put it to you that when you say in
that written statement,
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00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,775
"these conversations were never,"
361
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,415
and I emphasise
the word "never, serious",
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00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,855
that's completely untrue, isn't it?
No, that's not.
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00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,615
This shows, Mrs Vardy, that you are
prepared to lie under oath, aren't you?
364
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,135
No, I'm really not, no.
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00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,255
Leaked text messages, sold stories.
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00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,175
The High Court case between
Rebekah Vardy
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00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,455
and Coleen Rooney has got
everybody talking.
368
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,495
So far, Vardy had been accused
of leaking various stories,
369
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,935
but none were yet about
Rooney herself,
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00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,895
and ultimately, those were the ones
that mattered.
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00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,455
If Rooney couldn't prove that
Vardy knew about those leaks,
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Vardy would win her claim for libel.
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00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,815
Vardy's defence was that her agent
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00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,495
Caroline Watt had leaked those
posts. Not her.
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00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,615
Rooney's team didn't believe Vardy.
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00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,735
But, could they prove she wasn't
telling the truth.
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00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,655
In 2019, I was aware that
information from my
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00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,935
private Instagram account was being
leaked to The Sun.
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00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,815
It was messing with my head that
someone who I trusted was doing this
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00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:06,375
to me. Becky's account was
the one that stood out at that time.
381
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,295
We got on fine, but over time,
382
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,975
I got the feeling that she was
really just fishing for information.
383
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,055
I decided to remove Becky as
a follower
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00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,335
to see whether that put a stop
to the leaks.
385
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,255
Mrs Rooney blocks you.
386
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,375
Then, on the 6th February,
387
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:33,095
Caroline messages you.
"Babe, has Coleen unfollowed you?"
388
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:36,695
That's correct.
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00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,575
Ms Watt must have been looking
through your account at
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00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,255
Mrs Rooney's account to be able
to see that she had unfollowed you.
391
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,015
I can't comment on that.
392
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,375
I don't know how she managed
to find out that.
393
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:58,375
You don't know? Well, OK,
let's look a bit further down.
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00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,295
You say...
395
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:18,535
So this is Caroline Watt telling you
that she's specifically looking on
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00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,775
the account to find out what's going
on in Mrs Rooney's life.
397
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,975
Do you see? Yes.
398
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,255
Yes. It's quite clear Ms Watt was
monitoring Mrs Rooney's private
399
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,295
Instagram account, through the use
of your account, isn't that right?
400
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,055
No. It says she looked on there at
the weekend.
401
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,855
That doesn't say that she's
monitoring it or that she's
402
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,735
consistently checking it or
consistently looking at it.
403
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,415
But, she is telling you she has been
doing it?
404
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,975
No, she says she's looked on there
at the weekend.
405
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,775
That doesn't say that she's
monitoring it or that she's
406
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,935
consistently checking it or looking
at it.
407
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,815
"OMG" you say.
408
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,935
"What a cunt.
409
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,655
"I'm going to message her." And then
Caroline says...
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00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,255
You're trying to work out what you
should do about
411
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,735
the fact that Mrs Rooney has
unfollowed you.
412
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,575
You go on. "Not having her bad
mouth me to anyone.
413
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,335
"If she's doing that, my god,
she will be sorry."
414
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,535
Ancl you say, "I've messaged her.
415
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,015
"I swear she better not cunt
me off."
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00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,535
I received a WhatsApp from
Becky which said,
417
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,135
"I saw you had unfollowed me,
just wanted
418
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,495
"to ask if I offended you in any
way?
419
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,775
"Literally only noticed the other
clay."
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00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,135
This made me really suspicious,
but I wanted
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00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,055
to be 100% certain who was
responsible for the leaks.
422
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,735
So, I accepted her as
a follower again.
423
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,735
But on Twitter, I uploaded
424
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,695
a public message that information
was being leaked by someone.
425
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,215
This post was a warning shot.
426
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,975
Ancl I was hopeful it might stop
the leaks.
427
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,255
Can we turn to her public warning
post about the leaks?
428
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,895
"It's happened several times
now over
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00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,215
"the past couple of years," she
says.
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00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,975
"It's sad to think someone,
431
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,855
"who I have accepted
to follow me is betraying
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00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,175
"for either money or to keep a
relationship with the press."
433
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,575
Correct, wasn't she?
434
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,655
I don't know.
435
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,975
If you look at page 53,
436
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,775
this is you speaking to Caroline
Watt about the post.
437
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,575
She obviously finds it very funny,
doesn't she?
438
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,295
I don't know whether they are
laughing or crying.
439
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,895
OK.
440
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,295
It looks to me like laughing
to me. Crying with laughter.
441
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,215
Then you say, "I know,"
442
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,215
and then, these words from Caroline.
443
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:56,095
"It was me." She's admitting there
what you knew already.
444
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,655
That seems to be what she's saying,
but...
445
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:03,895
...I'm just looking at
the times. It's 18:47.
446
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,575
That's when I'm bathing my children.
There's no response from me.
447
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,895
Well, why didn't you after the bath,
if that's what you're doing,
448
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,655
why didn't you message her then
and say,
449
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,015
"What are you talking about?
You didn't do it."
450
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,935
Why didn't you come back and say,
"I've just read what you've written.
451
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,535
"I can't believe it.
That's nonsense".
452
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,135
You don't need to respond, do you,
Mrs Vardy, because
453
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,175
you know exactly what she's
talking about.
454
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,015
Because if I may, my Lady,
455
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,015
I have seen the conversation
that follows,
456
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:40,335
and, without wanting to make fun of
anyone it was actually Dancing on Ice,
457
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,775
and Gemma Collins face-planting on
the ice was the next message.
458
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,135
That's what I had on in the background
when I was bathing the children.
459
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,495
At times, you had to remind yourself
that Vardy was
460
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,975
the one who chose to bring this
to trial,
461
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,335
not the other way around.
Did she ever wish she hadn't?
462
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,735
Who knows?
463
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,695
But so far she had doggedly stuck
to her story.
464
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,575
And Rooney's team were hampered by
a lack of direct evidence.
465
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,255
Although they had some of her
WhatsApps, many of them had gone missing.
466
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,535
What happened to all
the messages between you
467
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,455
and Caroline Watt on your
phone between
468
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:32,095
the 15th of October 2019 and July
2020?
469
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,015
I can't confirm or deny
470
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:40,095
but I think I may have changed
phones around that time.
471
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,175
August, as you know, was a busy
month, wasn't it?
472
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,015
There was a hearing in this court
when one of
473
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:51,975
the judges ordered that not only
should you disclose
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00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,655
and have searched your devices,
475
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:01,735
but that Ms Watt should also.
You knew that, didn't you?
476
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:07,055
Yes. Ancl when, a few clays later, she
loses her phone in
477
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:12,495
the North Sea...that would be pretty
important, wouldn't it?
478
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,255
Yes, I think so.
479
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,775
She would have rung you up
straight away,
480
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,295
wouldn't she, to say,
"Oh, my God, I've lost my phone,
481
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,575
"I have dropped it in the sea."
482
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,935
Yes, she told me on the phone.
483
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,735
So why is it that your solicitors
do not tell us about that
484
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,335
for four months?
485
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,175
I don't know. You see, the shame is,
isn't it, Mrs Vardy,
486
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,455
that Mr Boyle's WhatsApp messages
with Ms Watt,
487
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,935
just as the ones with Mr Hall,
are lying at the bottom of
488
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,255
the sea, in Davy Jones' locker,
aren't they?
489
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,775
Who is Davy Jones?
LAUGHTER
490
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,375
it just means at the bottom of
the sea.
491
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,295
After yet another leak,
492
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,615
I wanted to catch
the account responsible,
493
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,335
so I came up with a plan.
494
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,255
Instagram has a function by which
you could post a story,
495
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,735
and limit which
of your followers was able
496
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,055
to view that story.
497
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,895
I would invent and fabricate
a story,
498
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,655
and limit the accessibility in such
a way
499
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,255
so that it was only Becky's account
that could view it.
500
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,975
I would then wait
and see whether my fabricated story,
501
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:46,015
which had only been seen by Becky's
account, appeared in The Sun.
502
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,855
Ancl that, of course,
is exactly what happens.
503
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:57,495
Her fake stories begin to appear
in The Sun.
504
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,335
Let's look at page 752.
505
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,055
This is one of them, the flooded
basement post.
506
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,135
We can see on
507
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:12,695
the bottom left-hand corner it's
seen by only you, isn't it?
508
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:15,695
On the face of it, that's what
it says.
509
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:20,135
She's limited her followers
to just one account.
510
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,015
No-one else would have seen it.
511
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:26,655
The post is a bottle of wine
and it says,
512
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:31,655
"Needed after today, flood in
the basement of our new house
513
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,975
"when it all seemed
to be going so well."
514
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:41,415
Now, her new house is a topic,
obviously, of conversation.
515
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,335
The fact that she was building
a house, yes?
516
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:52,455
Yes. So, the fact that there had
been a flood in the basement of
517
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,735
the house would have been
very newsworthy.
518
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,335
I don't know why it would have been
newsworthy, but...
519
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,135
Well, The Sun obviously thought
it was a newsworthy story
520
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:09,135
because as we see on page 84,
they publish
521
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,415
an article about it, don't they?
522
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,735
"Coleen Rooney has weathered plenty
523
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,175
"of storms during her 11-year
marriage,
524
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,575
"but the latest one wasn't to do
with husband Wayne."
525
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,415
Ancl the source obviously thought it
was
526
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,775
a newsworthy story too,
because they passed it to them,
527
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,175
even though it was a false story.
528
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,335
You didn't know it was a false story
though did you when you saw it?
529
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,975
I can't recall seeing this one.
530
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,415
Mrs Vardy...
531
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,015
...I'm going to have to suggest
to you that you seem
532
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,335
to be trying to distance yourself
533
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,735
from having seen this flooded
basement post, are you?
534
00:37:54,760 --> 00:38:01,175
No. And The Sun article is based on
information that you
535
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:07,095
and Ms Watt passed through,
that only you or Ms Watt,
536
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:12,335
had seen in Mrs Rooney's private
Instagram account.
537
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,255
That's correct, isn't it?
That's not correct, no.
538
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,215
I'm going to ask you
the question again.
539
00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:26,175
Did you or did you not see this
screens hot, Mrs Vardy?
540
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,735
No. I don't recall seeing this one.
541
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,575
Um...er...
542
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:41,535
...this is the answer your solicitors
gave us on instructions.
543
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,495
Was "Mrs Vardy recalls seeing
the Flooded Basement Post".
544
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,935
But now, you just said you don't
recall it?
545
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,015
...er...
546
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,175
No, that's right.
547
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,615
A lot of things were...
548
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,015
There was a lot
of abuse at that time.
549
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,655
Do you want to take a break,
Mrs Vardy?
550
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,655
Let's take a five minute break.
551
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,135
I saw Coleen's post which said
I had leaked to The Sun,
552
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,535
soon after it was published on
the 9th of October 2019.
553
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,535
It came as a great shock to me.
554
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,495
I could not believe that
Coleen had not called me
555
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,495
before posting this accusation
to the world.
556
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,855
My concerns were that
I would not faint,
557
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,135
have a panic attack or
stop breathing.
558
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,775
I started to get really hot
559
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,215
and suffered from
strange palpitations.
560
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,015
Loads of messages started coming
561
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,895
through on my mobile phone calling
me names.
562
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:43,455
"Fucking rat", "fucking bitch,"
"who sells their friends out?"
563
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,735
I was heavily pregnant
564
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,055
and it felt like the whole world
was caving in.
565
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,455
Can I take you to page 779? 779.
566
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:11,975
Mrs Rooney put up the post that is
the subject of this action.
567
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,295
Caroline Watt tells you.
568
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,615
Ms Watt's coming up with excuses.
569
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:44,175
No, that's true. My Instagram did
follow people,
570
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,855
and still does to this day,
that I don't follow.
571
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,575
She says, "Just say you have allowed
a company to access it
572
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:57,255
"for sponsored posts." Caroline Watt
knows that's not true, doesn't she?
573
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,815
I think she's trying to be
protective
574
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,135
and come up with something.
575
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:07,535
My Lady, you'll have to excuse me,
that is such a blur that day.
576
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,895
She's feeding you lines,
isn't she, Mrs Vardy,
577
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,375
to try and suggest to Mrs Rooney
that you are not
578
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,775
responsible, is that correct or not?
No.
579
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,495
Ancl then Caroline writes out
for you what you should say
580
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,175
to Coleen Rooney.
581
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,935
"Over the years various people have
had access to my lnsta,
582
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,335
"just this week I found
I was following people I didn't know
583
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,335
"and have never followed myself.
I liked you a lot, Coleen,
584
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,855
"I'm so upset that you have chosen
to do this,
585
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,615
"especially when I'm heavily
pregnant."
586
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,975
This is Caroline writing
to you what you should say.
587
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,415
That's correct, because I couldn't
think straight.
588
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,255
If you turn to page 87.
589
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,815
This is an exclusive interview you
gave the next clay.
590
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,215
The heading is
591
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:08,615
"Arguing with Coleen Rooney would
be as pointless as arguing with a pigeon."
592
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:16,095
We read "Vardy says, you can tell it
that you are right and it is wrong,
593
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,575
"but it's still going to shit in
your hair."
594
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,055
That's what you said to her,
isn't it?
595
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,775
It seemed Coleen had weaponised her
fan base against me,
596
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,135
and I was desperately trying
597
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,575
to do something to defuse
the situation.
598
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,255
I am going to conclude.
599
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:53,375
Mrs Vardy, we've seen you and Ms
Watt were consistently discussing,
600
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,815
and passing on information
to The Sun about
601
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,295
a number of people who you
knew, yes?
602
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:03,495
No.
603
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:04,535
Mr Drink water.
604
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,535
The married footballer.
605
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:11,815
Mr H. We have seen you asking
Ms Watt to leak
606
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,775
the story of Mrs F shagging.
607
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,255
Would you not agree, Mrs Vardy,
608
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:24,455
that if it looks like a leak
and it sounds like a leak
609
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,655
and you even use the word "leak,"
610
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,615
that it is more likely than not
to be a leak?
611
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,735
No. Ancl that's what you were,
wasn't it, a leak? No.
612
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,175
So, when Mrs Rooney wrote on
613
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,615
the 9th October that she was correct
in suspecting you
614
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,735
and of your account of having consistently
been leaking private information
615
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,535
to The Sun she was right,
wasn't she?
616
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,095
No, she was wrong.
617
00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,095
Ancl that's why Ms Watt couldn't face
coming to court in
618
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,375
the end, could she?
619
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,295
Actually, she's been driven
620
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,655
to suicidal thoughts by
these proceedings
621
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,615
and the antics of the defendant.
622
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,015
So, you blame her instead
623
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,415
and say that she may well have clone
it after all these years
624
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,615
of faithful service
and doing only what you both knew
625
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,175
and approved of her doing,
isn't that correct?
626
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,175
No.
627
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,775
You see, Mrs Vardy, I have to put it
to you...
628
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,415
...that it is not her that has
betrayed you,
629
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,175
as you suggest.
630
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:43,695
It is you that has betrayed her by
throwing her under the bus.
631
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,335
Is that a joke?
632
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,175
Let's see what the court says,
Mrs Vardy.
633
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,895
I have no further questions.
Thank you.
634
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,695
It was estimated Vardy's legal bills
635
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:20,015
to this point were approaching one
million pounds.
636
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,495
Was it worth it?
637
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,455
If she thought it would restore
some sort
638
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,895
of spotless reputation,
possibly not.
639
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,535
But maybe spotless reputations
aren't what count these days.
640
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,215
If notoriety is actually
the secret to success,
641
00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:43,615
who knows, perhaps it will all turn
out to be money well spent.
642
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,455
Ancl now she'd escaped
the witness box,
643
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,335
it would be her opportunity
to turn the heat on Rooney.
644
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,815
Anyone who thought this case
was over was in for a shock.
645
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,655
She told me she wanted
to make me feel paranoid
646
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,615
the way she had felt paranoid.
647
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,055
We don't have your WhatsApp
messages, do we?
648
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,335
I've got no reason to...
649
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,935
You see when this happens
to Mrs Vardy, its a plot.
650
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,175
I'm sat here under oath.
651
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,375
I 100% spoke to Mr Vardy.
652
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:24,375
You see Mrs Rooney I'm suggesting
that you're wrong about that.
653
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,975
You replied by telling a lie. Yes.
654
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,895
You don't actually
have any evidence, do you?
655
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,855
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