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welcome to episode 5 of my podcast what
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if there is a better way I'm Leah in
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this episode I speak with Professor
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Thomas seifried it is a special episode
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for me because
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who isn't affected by cancer in some way
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shape or form so I'm hoping this can be
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helpful to somebody
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it is also possible to donate to his
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research for anybody who feels called to
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do that there is a link down in this
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description
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and there were some technical
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difficulties during the recording time
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my part of the audio was very quiet so
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he had a hard time understanding me
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sometimes
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I managed to
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fix it afterwards but it made the
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conversation a little bit chubby so I
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apologize
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and
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thank you to Professor Seafood for
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coming on and enjoy the show
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welcome Professor Seafood
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Hi how are you nice to be here
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great to have you
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uh can you give a little
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I'm a professor of biology at Boston
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College here in Chestnut Hill
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Massachusetts which is right outside of
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the city of Boston actually
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and
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um I teach the cancer biology class
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and I teach General biology
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uh to undergraduate students and I have
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a very active
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uh cancer research laboratory I work
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with
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um uh Physicians and basic scientists uh
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throughout the world
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very interesting were you always
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interested in cancer specifically
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um over time well probably for the last
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35 uh years
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uh for sure
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but I did a lot of work in the field of
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epilepsy genetics
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uh and these kinds of things
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biochemistry lipid biochemistry Tay
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Sachs disease I I've worked in a lot of
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different genetics and biochemical uh on
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a lot of these kinds of issues
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interesting and so you have uh you're a
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little bit of a contrarian let's say to
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the general
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cancer
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pieces right so yeah can you
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can you explain so first of all what
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like cancer specifically is and then
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compare what the general thought is and
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what your research has taught you yeah
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a cancer
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is defined
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as cell division out of control
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dysregulated cell growth
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okay
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um
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most
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um oncologists
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think that this is the result of gene
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mutations
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our
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theory is different it says that the
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origin of dysregulated cell growth
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arises from the mitochondria and the
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cytoplasm
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and that uh the mutations are
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Downstream effects they are not the
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cause of cancer they are the effects of
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cancer
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and that the dysregulated cell growth is
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the result of mitochondrial dysfunction
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where the cell can no longer generate
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energy through oxygen but must rely on
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Ancient Pathways of fermentation to
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generate energy
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so energy is everything without energy
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nothing can survive
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uh energy is the key Essence uh of Life
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cancer cells generate energy through
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fermentation uh normal cells generate
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energy through oxidative phosphorylation
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so the main difference between Cancer
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cell and normal cell is how they
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generate energy
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so when you generate energy through
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chronic fermentation you collect all
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these mutations and all these things
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that people study they're all Downstream
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effects they're not the cause of cancer
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the cause of cancer is a dysregulated uh
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respiratory system coupled with
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increased fermentation and the fuel that
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drives the fermentation is the amino
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acid glutamine and the sugar glucose
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so without glucose and glutamine no
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cancer cell can survive all other issues
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are less important
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so where does the cancer get the sugar
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and the glutamine
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where does it get the fuel
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to grow yes okay no glucose is in
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everywhere right and everything you eat
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generates some sort of glucose
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and the glutamine is made from glucose
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it's non-essential amino acid so you
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need drug you you can manage glucose
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with diet
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uh but you will need a drug
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to restrict the glutamine
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so uh you must Target glucose and
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glutamine simultaneously that means
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together while transitioning the whole
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body over to ketones
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um which are derived from fatty acids so
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ketogenic diet
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together uh restricted ketogenic diet
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will lower blood sugar Elevate ketones
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uh which is the ketones are for the
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normal cells not the tumor cells and
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then you target the glutamine at the
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same time and this strategy should
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manage
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all major cancers without toxicity
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okay the problem is the problem is no
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one can understand this
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I I might as well be speaking in ancient
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Egyptian
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or Greek uh no one can understand what I
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just said
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um I I it's very simple but no one can
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understand it so I I'm I'm always
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wondered how is it possible
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that I say cancer is a mitochondrial
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metabolic disease driven by fermentation
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and the fermentation fuels are glucose
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and glutamine and the tumor cells cannot
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burn ketones so the solution to the
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cancer problem is simultaneously
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restriction the glucose and glutamine
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while transitioning the body over to
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therapeutic ketosis
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keeps the normal cells healthy and
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targets and kills the tumor cells at the
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same time
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so but for whatever reason
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uh people cannot understand this
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thank you I don't know I I think there's
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two things number one they don't want to
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understand it
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uh and number two uh it's hard to
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generate Revenue
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uh when you uh have a very simple
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solution to a problem
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in other words we do not think
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radiation is necessary for the managing
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cancer the majority of cancers we don't
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think uh toxic chemo is necessary for
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managing the majority of cancers
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immunotherapies that are the the hot
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thing today
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are all based on the gene theory of
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cancer if the gene theory of cancer is
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incorrect you're not going to achieve
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the uh success
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um that you would that you would have so
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I'm telling the world that the view of
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cancer
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the reason why we have so many deaths
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and suffering from cancer
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is because the theory is incorrect
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once the theory once cancer becomes
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recognized as mitochondrial metabolic
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disease
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the disease will be managed effectively
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but
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it's hard to convince hard to describe
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this to people
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lay people understand it more than the
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scientists understand I think the
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scientists understand it they just don't
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want to they don't want it to happen
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because that means whatever they're
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doing is probably insignificant
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which is which is kind of unsettling for
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the majority of cancer researchers
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yes a lot of like people's life work
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would have to be thrown out the way say
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again
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a lot of people's life work would have
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been have
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um they would have to throw it out the
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window basically
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all of the work yeah I wasn't able to
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pick that up too clearly yeah again it
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was a little soft
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oh
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a lot of people's life work would have
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have to be thrown out the window right
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um
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yes you're correct and that is a very
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disturbing
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uh to the majority of cancer researchers
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that most of what they're doing is
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insignificant it's terrible to say that
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you know I'm sure that if someone were
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to come to me and say you know your
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mitochondrial metabolic theory is wrong
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and everything that I've been doing is
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incorrect
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my argument is show me tell me provide
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me with the data showing that I am
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Incorrect and I will be more than happy
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to debate and discuss this with anyone
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and I will clearly show how the how the
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somatic mutation Theory the gene theory
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is uh incorrect they cannot explain the
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nuclear transfer experiments they cannot
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explain why we have all these oncogene
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driver genes in normal tissue uh how do
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you explain uh cancer mutations in
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normal tissue that never become cancer
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how do you explain the fact that there
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is some two tumors that have no
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mutations
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so how can you tell me that cancer is
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due to genetic mutations when we have
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all of these inconsistencies
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so uh the mitochondrial the the somatic
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mutation Theory or the gene theory of
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cancer is flawed
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okay so most of the cancer treatments
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are based on the gene theory of cancer
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if the theory describing the disease or
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the phenomenon is incorrect what is the
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probability of treating people with
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therapies based on an incorrect Theory
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you're not going to get the resolution
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you're not going to get the effects so
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we have to kill
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millions of people worldwide
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by toxic treatments uh because people
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cannot accept the fact that they might
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be incorrect in their way of
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understanding cancer
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I mean eventually at somebody your age
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if you live to be 76 years old
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and we are still irradiating and
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poisoning people to make them healthy
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then we have a real problem
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I hope it doesn't happen yes
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well I hope so too you know let
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everybody know it's not a genetic
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disease so all these crazy things that
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we're doing to people why you think are
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people excited when they have cancer
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that they go and say whoa I'm so excited
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that I can get now radiation and toxic
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poison you know I didn't like the color
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of my hair now I'll take this chemical
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and all my hair will fall out and I can
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put a wig on and I can change my hairdo
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uh as the result of the cancer treatment
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right makes no sense no it sounds like a
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bad party at any time anytime you see
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some person with a bald head from cancer
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treatment that person was treated by
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someone who doesn't understand what
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cancer is otherwise the head why you
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can't why your hair falls out you're
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trying to kill cancer cells not make you
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go bald right so all of these crazy
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things that we do to each other it's
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just unbelievable unbelievable
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so um anyway what are you gonna do
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that's the way it is
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oh we're gonna change that
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so basically
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the proof is in the pudding and it's
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about the results that the different
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treatments get so what are some of the
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results that you get or got through your
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theory and your treatments yeah well
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um that's important because people say
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well where's the evidence and the
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evidence is we are publishing case
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reports of individuals who do metabolic
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therapy
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and live far longer than they would have
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had they done conventional therapy we
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are rescuing some uh stage four cancer
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patients
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from their disease uh by giving them
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metabolic therapy as opposed to a
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radiation chemo or
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or immunotherapy so um
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there are no clinical trials yet mainly
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because uh no hospital wants to uh pay
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for this how you I mean usually
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pharmaceutical company pays for clinical
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trial
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um no pharmaceutical company has come
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forward yet to say we would like to do a
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big clinical trial on metabolic therapy
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to show that we do not need
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immunotherapies radiation or toxic
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chemicals uh there's no level of
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enthusiasm to do something like this
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right now
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so uh we need a business model and I
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think the business model will allow us
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to move forward also we don't have
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trained Physicians and oncologists they
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what I said to you uh they can't believe
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what I'm saying because they don't
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understand the concepts or even if they
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do understand the concepts they don't
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they don't want to believe it
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so
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um so we just have to keep doing case
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individual case reports and and
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Publishing hard scientific evidence
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supporting the theory and then
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eventually things will change just a
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matter of time
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and so you've been able to prolong
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people's lives that have been uh
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diagnosed with cancer right
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okay I say that again
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you have been able to prolong people's
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lives through the metabolic therapy
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yes this is another important point you
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should not consider metabolic therapy as
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a cure for cancer metabolic therapy is
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simply an approach to improve uh overall
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survival and quality of life
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metabolic therapy will allow cancer
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patients to live much much longer with a
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higher quality of life than the standard
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treatments that we currently have for
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cancer does that mean cure we have no
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idea all we can say is is if if
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everybody is uh talk about cure well
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it's clear that standard of care is not
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curing the majority of people with
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cancer and if those people do survive
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standard of care they often pay a big
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price for this they have many many
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adverse effects in their body
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they get other cancers they have
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hormonal imbalance they have microbiome
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imbalances they have Neuropsychiatric
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problems they pay a very severe price
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for surviving standard of care treatment
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to manage their cancer metabolic therapy
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does not produce the kinds of any kinds
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of adverse effects it makes you healthy
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it makes you feel better you do not have
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to lose hair you don't go bald you don't
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have uh nausea vomiting you don't have
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these kinds of things so you just simply
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kill cancer cells gradually while
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improving the overall health of your
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body
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so uh metabolic therapy will replace
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toxic standard treatments in the future
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right now uh people are just unfamiliar
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with the concepts
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and can you describe what the
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what you what the people need to do or
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like what the patients need to do
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to get into ketosis and to take care of
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me so when the cancer patient presents
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to the clinic
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uh what we do is we take complete blood
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work
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we measure all uh parameters in the
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blood make sure no bacteria fungus or
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parasite infections
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um we uh transition the patient from
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high carbohydrate diet to very low
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carbohydrate ketogenic diet which can
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take uh several uh at least 10 days to
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15 days
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um and then once the patient is in uh
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nutritional ketosis by measuring blood
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glucose Ketone index
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um we then administered to drugs uh to
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the patient uh to Target effectively
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Target the glutamine and the glucose and
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we can use hyperbaric oxygen and we can
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use sometimes we use very low dose chemo
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um very very low dose chemo which has
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almost no side effects whatsoever it's
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just the drugs work so much better uh
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when patient is in therapeutic ketosis
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um so it's a gradual degrading of the
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tumor over time
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uh we're trying to complete the whole
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process within within a four to six
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month period uh similar to uh what would
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do for standard of care
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so
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um except that now the patient emerges
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in a very healthy State uh with cancer
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managed now we don't say cancer is gone
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we say cancer is managed it may still be
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there but not growing or it could be
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gone uh you do MRI
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the various non-invasive Technologies we
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don't like to use biopsy uh to assess
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the cancer
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biopsy has runs the risk of spreading
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the cancer throughout the body uh we we
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do surgery only after the tumor is
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shrunken down very small uh without any
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inflammation and then the surgeon can
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remove the tumor quite effectively we
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don't like to use surgery at the
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beginning because it could spread the
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tumor just like biopsy so we have a very
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clear uh protocol for the treatment of
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cancer that is based on cancer being a
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mitochondrial metabolic disease and this
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will all be worked out very very
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thoroughly in the clinic not terribly
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complicated but will be highly effective
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patient presents itself at the clinic
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and then you do the tests
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and then they change what they eat so
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for those people that don't know how the
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body would start to get into ketosis
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what
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do people need to eat to be in a
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ketogenic state
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well you have to be under the guidance
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of a certified
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practitioner whether that is a nurse
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nurse a physician's assistant physician
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nutritionist
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the patient needs to be guided and the
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patient also needs to monitor their own
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blood work and we published the glucose
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Ketone index and there's blood meters
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now that you can buy on Amazon
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that will allow the cancer patient to
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monitor their own blood work and then
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they would go to the physician and say
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okay I am in ketosis and at that time
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they would be administered the drugs
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uh that work together with the ketosis
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to kill the cancer cells
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and you know we use glutamine targeting
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drugs uh we use uh parasite drugs and
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bendazole benbendazole and it's these
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drug cocktails used with nutritional
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ketosis that will kill the majority of
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cancer cells or bring tumors into
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complete management
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and so
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um so for example if a patient likes to
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eat cake is that what if a patient likes
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to eat lots of cake and sweets is that
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helpful cannolis right
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cannoli
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what's cannolis that will not work that
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patient will not survive okay so uh
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yeah none of that no cannoli no cake no
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spoiled none of these kinds of pastries
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okay
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um you know this all has to be removed
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from the diet until the cancer is
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managed once the cancer is managed uh it
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may be possible to eat a pizza uh but
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you know uh until that you have to
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recognize that it's your choice it's the
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patient's choice do they want to live or
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do they want to die
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it's not a it's a it's a choice right I
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mean you don't tell the patient you want
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to live or you want to die you know it's
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just uh
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you know I'm not saying it if they want
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to eat cake it's cannolis I mean that's
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their problem we had an Italian patient
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we had from yeah
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where was that maybe it was Milan Milano
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um
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she was doing very very well with
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glioblastoma on metabolic therapy and
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thought she was uh cured but she was not
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cured and then she went back and ate the
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cannolis
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and the cancer came back and she died so
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um
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you know no cannolis
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and you also have to unless you have a
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keto cannoli okay I don't know if that's
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possible see food food uh people are
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working on all these kinds of Keto foods
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but I can tell you a keto cannoli is not
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as good as the regular canola
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and what about carts
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are they helpful or detrimental
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what what about what parts carbohydrates
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oh carbs yeah no no carbs are carbs are
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driving the tumor to grow faster so uh
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you want to restrict carbohydrates the
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tumor needs carbohydrate to grow now
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it's it's really that tumor needs
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glucose to grow and glucose comes from
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carbohydrates the worst carbohydrates
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are the highly glycemic carbohydrates
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the highly processed sugars complex
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carbs
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um are less provocative but uh still
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should be restricted uh significantly so
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the best so because ketogenic diet is
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zero carbohydrate diet extremely low
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carbohydrate your body can make carbs
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from within so
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um the problem is they make very little
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carbs from within it's not enough to
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drive the tumor so the carbs external
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carbs are what's needed to drive the
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tumor once you eliminate all external
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carbohydrates the carbohydrates that the
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body makes is mostly for the brain
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and all other tissues will burn fatty
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acids and ketones and and the tumors
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cannot burn fatty acids and ketones
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regardless of what these other people
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might think
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so basically the most beneficial things
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to eat for the body is animal protein
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and fat is that correct
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yeah well it could be animal protein or
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it could be uh vegetables as long as
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whatever you eat is it can't Elevate the
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glucose Ketone index if you keep your
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glucose Ketone index low then it doesn't
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make any difference what you eat as long
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as you have a low glucose Ketone index
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some people do Mediterranean diet some
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people do vegan diet some people do
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carnivore diet it's just it's almost
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like what what did human beings eat 50
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000 years ago what was the diet for the
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human being 50 000 years ago it wasn't
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cannoli there was no cannoli in the
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environment at that time right no rice
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yeah uh uh no pasta no pasta right so uh
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listen it's a hard thing to do if you're
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Italian you don't eat pasta It's hard if
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you're Chinese and you don't eat rice
567
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,000
it's hard you're Irish you don't eat
568
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:33,839
potatoes it's hard right poor bread what
569
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:37,019
about bread no bread so uh yeah right
570
00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:38,220
take away pasta and bread it's gonna be
571
00:25:37,019 --> 00:25:40,440
hard right
572
00:25:38,220 --> 00:25:43,919
all right so
573
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:46,019
um yeah uh no carbohydrate carbohydrates
574
00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:49,020
must be restricted but it's not forever
575
00:25:46,019 --> 00:25:50,819
it's just until the tumor is managed and
576
00:25:49,019 --> 00:25:54,298
once the tumor is managed then you can
577
00:25:50,819 --> 00:25:56,399
uh go back and and maybe not to the same
578
00:25:54,298 --> 00:25:58,558
level but you can certainly not be
579
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,880
completely restricted some people tell
580
00:25:58,558 --> 00:26:01,558
me
581
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,880
um they would rather die than not eat
582
00:26:01,558 --> 00:26:06,058
pasta and bread
583
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:08,580
so um that's their choice okay then die
584
00:26:06,058 --> 00:26:11,639
you know it's not my it's not my problem
585
00:26:08,579 --> 00:26:13,918
it's your problem you know I I have a
586
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,538
Korean Korean told me he can never live
587
00:26:13,919 --> 00:26:16,500
every day he has to have rice every
588
00:26:15,538 --> 00:26:18,839
single day
589
00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:21,778
and would rather die than not eat rice
590
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:23,579
so I said okay that's so that's your
591
00:26:21,778 --> 00:26:25,319
choice that's not my choice
592
00:26:23,579 --> 00:26:27,119
so uh
593
00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:29,579
right yeah
594
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:32,038
you gotta want it
595
00:26:29,579 --> 00:26:33,599
yeah you want to survive you got to do
596
00:26:32,038 --> 00:26:35,940
what you need to do to kill the cancer
597
00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:37,379
cells and then once the cancer cells are
598
00:26:35,940 --> 00:26:39,900
managed then you might be able to eat
599
00:26:37,380 --> 00:26:42,440
right rice or pasta but not during the
600
00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:45,140
management period not not that at all
601
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:48,720
okay so
602
00:26:45,140 --> 00:26:50,880
basically the mitochondria needs to be
603
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:55,440
in a healthy State correct
604
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:59,100
yes yes okay a mitochondria need to be
605
00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:03,058
maintained in a healthy State and
606
00:26:59,099 --> 00:27:04,399
um you know uh exercise is excellent to
607
00:27:03,058 --> 00:27:07,918
maintain this
608
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:11,100
uh periodic fasting what they call
609
00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:13,259
intermittent fasting it's hard to do
610
00:27:11,099 --> 00:27:16,259
long-term fasting or zero carbohydrate
611
00:27:13,259 --> 00:27:17,879
diet for a week you can do that there's
612
00:27:16,259 --> 00:27:19,940
a lot of ways to lower your blood sugar
613
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:23,220
and elevate your ketones
614
00:27:19,940 --> 00:27:26,000
to prevent uh cancer and keep your
615
00:27:23,220 --> 00:27:28,980
mitochondria healthy
616
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,019
and so
617
00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:34,740
um from what I I've seen from your
618
00:27:31,019 --> 00:27:37,859
research is that basically it's not the
619
00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:40,079
um so the the nucleus of the cell that's
620
00:27:37,859 --> 00:27:43,619
damaged but the mitochondria that's
621
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:46,798
damaged and even if you put that yeah
622
00:27:43,619 --> 00:27:48,839
the new space is also damaged okay yes
623
00:27:46,798 --> 00:27:50,058
so please yeah but uh you know there's a
624
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:52,798
lot of mutations
625
00:27:50,058 --> 00:27:54,778
most cancers have mutations in the
626
00:27:52,798 --> 00:27:56,519
nucleus
627
00:27:54,778 --> 00:27:59,099
um but that's not the cause that's the
628
00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:00,418
effect of the damaged mitochondria no
629
00:27:59,099 --> 00:28:03,899
cancer is known that has normal
630
00:28:00,419 --> 00:28:07,140
mitochondria so the mitochondria being
631
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:09,659
abnormal forces the cell to ferment uh
632
00:28:07,140 --> 00:28:12,179
use energy without oxygen and glucose
633
00:28:09,659 --> 00:28:14,640
and glutamine are are those are those
634
00:28:12,179 --> 00:28:16,140
fuels so the nuclear problems are
635
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,240
Downstream they're not the cause they're
636
00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:19,799
the effects so most people in the field
637
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,440
study the effects not the cause
638
00:28:19,798 --> 00:28:24,418
consequently we make no major advance in
639
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,460
cancer once we understand that it's a
640
00:28:24,419 --> 00:28:28,640
mitochondrial metabolic disease then
641
00:28:26,460 --> 00:28:32,519
you're going to see huge huge
642
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:35,100
advancement in managing the disease
643
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:37,619
so
644
00:28:35,099 --> 00:28:40,379
um you did studies right where you took
645
00:28:37,619 --> 00:28:43,079
out the mitochondria of one cell and
646
00:28:40,380 --> 00:28:45,720
inserted it into another can you explain
647
00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:47,939
that process a little bit and how you
648
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,679
got different yeah well that was the
649
00:28:47,940 --> 00:28:50,820
nuclear mitochondria transfer
650
00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:53,700
experiments
651
00:28:50,819 --> 00:28:54,899
and and they were done uh over many many
652
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:57,840
years
653
00:28:54,900 --> 00:29:00,679
uh to ask the simple question
654
00:28:57,839 --> 00:29:06,178
can a cancer
655
00:29:00,679 --> 00:29:08,759
cell uh direct normal development
656
00:29:06,179 --> 00:29:11,640
um that was that they were not testing
657
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:13,558
the mitochondrial metabolic Theory they
658
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:17,100
were testing whether or not a cancer
659
00:29:13,558 --> 00:29:22,379
cell can direct normal development and
660
00:29:17,099 --> 00:29:27,658
the answer is uh uh yes up until a point
661
00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:32,299
uh when the organism would abort
662
00:29:27,659 --> 00:29:36,120
um so uh frogs with uh kidney cancer
663
00:29:32,298 --> 00:29:38,158
were able to develop into a tadpole uh
664
00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:40,558
from the nucleus of the tumor but not
665
00:29:38,159 --> 00:29:44,220
into a mature frog
666
00:29:40,558 --> 00:29:47,720
um uh mice were produced from melanoma
667
00:29:44,220 --> 00:29:49,919
nucleus uh but not an adult Mouse
668
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,960
they were all aborted in some way
669
00:29:49,919 --> 00:29:55,440
because of the mutations in the nucleus
670
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:58,500
prevented development but they never
671
00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:01,980
developed cancer uh from the from the
672
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:04,798
tumor nucleus so uh what is showing is
673
00:30:01,980 --> 00:30:08,339
that normal mitochondria can suppress
674
00:30:04,798 --> 00:30:12,000
the abnormal cell growth and
675
00:30:08,339 --> 00:30:14,038
um this was done by uh many of the
676
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,259
world's best developmental biologists
677
00:30:14,038 --> 00:30:18,538
and it was repeated over and over again
678
00:30:16,259 --> 00:30:20,579
in many many independent studies
679
00:30:18,538 --> 00:30:22,500
strongest evidence to prove that Cancer
680
00:30:20,579 --> 00:30:25,859
Cannot Be a nuclear genetic disease
681
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:29,099
those those findings show that Cancer
682
00:30:25,859 --> 00:30:30,479
Cannot Be A genetic disease people need
683
00:30:29,099 --> 00:30:33,418
to get over this they need to understand
684
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,640
this until they understand if they
685
00:30:33,419 --> 00:30:38,640
cannot understand what I just said then
686
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,919
they'll never understand anything so uh
687
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,899
um but the nuclear transfer experiments
688
00:30:40,919 --> 00:30:45,778
prove that Cancer Cannot Be A genetic
689
00:30:42,898 --> 00:30:48,359
disease and those and other findings as
690
00:30:45,778 --> 00:30:50,278
well that I put out my big papers so
691
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:52,859
yeah I mean normal mitochondria
692
00:30:50,278 --> 00:30:55,919
suppressed abnormal cell growth abnormal
693
00:30:52,859 --> 00:30:58,139
cell growth comes from uh defective in
694
00:30:55,919 --> 00:31:00,120
the mitochondria mitochondria maintained
695
00:30:58,140 --> 00:31:01,980
the differentiated state of quiescence
696
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:03,479
when the mitochondria becomes defective
697
00:31:01,980 --> 00:31:06,599
the cell falls into a fermentation
698
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,519
metabolism and loses growth control not
699
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:11,398
that complicated
700
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:13,379
not to me it's not complicated to other
701
00:31:11,398 --> 00:31:14,339
people it might appear complicated but
702
00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:16,260
that's because they don't read the
703
00:31:14,339 --> 00:31:17,879
scientific literature if you sit down
704
00:31:16,259 --> 00:31:20,038
and read the papers then you'll
705
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,720
completely understand what I'm saying if
706
00:31:20,038 --> 00:31:24,240
you don't read the papers then maybe
707
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:27,298
it's very complicated so it's just that
708
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:30,839
simple Yeah so basically the healthy
709
00:31:27,298 --> 00:31:34,319
self right has normal respiration oxygen
710
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:39,240
goes in gets metabolized yes and the
711
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:42,599
cell uses the oxygen to do its state
712
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:46,019
but in the that's correct but if there
713
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:48,898
is a problem with respiration the cell
714
00:31:46,019 --> 00:31:52,079
has a second mechanism to continue
715
00:31:48,898 --> 00:31:53,819
living correct
716
00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:56,699
yeah well it continues to get energy
717
00:31:53,819 --> 00:31:59,460
from fermentation not respiration okay
718
00:31:56,700 --> 00:32:02,058
so so that's how the cancer cell grows
719
00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:05,120
dysregulated it's a fermentation
720
00:32:02,058 --> 00:32:08,519
metabolism uh
721
00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:13,439
underlying the dysregulated cell growth
722
00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:16,679
so it's very simple uh if they ferment
723
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:19,019
uh what do what are the fuels to allow
724
00:32:16,679 --> 00:32:24,179
fermentation to take place
725
00:32:19,019 --> 00:32:26,278
glucose and glutamine only two fuels
726
00:32:24,179 --> 00:32:28,380
two
727
00:32:26,278 --> 00:32:30,000
those the cancer cell cannot grow it
728
00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:31,740
cannot it uses those fuels for
729
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,220
fermentation
730
00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:37,740
so uh once you stop the fermentation
731
00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:39,240
fuel the cancer cell cannot grow
732
00:32:37,740 --> 00:32:43,500
it dies
733
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:45,720
and no radiation no chemo yeah and this
734
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:47,519
is not the the kind of respiration right
735
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,980
where
736
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:52,679
is
737
00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:55,019
but it's what's transported around in
738
00:32:52,679 --> 00:32:58,620
the body and word
739
00:32:55,019 --> 00:33:02,418
the cell prefers the sugar
740
00:32:58,619 --> 00:33:07,678
but why would the cell
741
00:33:02,419 --> 00:33:10,080
use the the sugar instead of the oxygen
742
00:33:07,679 --> 00:33:12,740
like what kind of conditions need to be
743
00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:15,898
there in the body because the
744
00:33:12,740 --> 00:33:19,019
permutation to start
745
00:33:15,898 --> 00:33:22,139
you know that comes from okay
746
00:33:19,019 --> 00:33:24,120
anything that can chronically damage the
747
00:33:22,140 --> 00:33:26,820
ability of the mitochondria to generate
748
00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:29,939
energy through oxygen can potentially
749
00:33:26,819 --> 00:33:32,579
cause cancer okay so some people get
750
00:33:29,940 --> 00:33:35,220
exposed to carcinogens which is a
751
00:33:32,579 --> 00:33:38,220
chemical that causes cancer the chemical
752
00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:40,380
causes cancer because it damages
753
00:33:38,220 --> 00:33:44,100
oxidative phosphorylation in the
754
00:33:40,380 --> 00:33:48,240
mitochondria okay some people get cancer
755
00:33:44,099 --> 00:33:50,519
by by virus like papilloma virus now
756
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:53,839
they require everybody to get vaccinated
757
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:56,339
against papillomavirus
758
00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:59,819
papillomavirus causes uterine cancer
759
00:33:56,339 --> 00:34:01,019
uterine cancer and and other kinds of
760
00:33:59,819 --> 00:34:05,038
cancers
761
00:34:01,019 --> 00:34:07,980
uh the virus enters the cell and damages
762
00:34:05,038 --> 00:34:10,679
oxidative phosphorylation causing the
763
00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:14,338
cell to go and become fermentative and
764
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:19,858
thereby losing uh growth control in the
765
00:34:14,338 --> 00:34:22,739
uterus okay uh in the breast uh milk the
766
00:34:19,858 --> 00:34:26,000
milk duct in the breast can become
767
00:34:22,739 --> 00:34:28,500
blocked leading to chronic inflammation
768
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:33,780
chronic inflammation will damage
769
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:37,019
mitochondria in some cell or tissue okay
770
00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:39,480
um intermittent hypoxia can damage
771
00:34:37,019 --> 00:34:44,219
respiration in the cell intermittent
772
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:48,240
hypoxia which is uh either a milk duct
773
00:34:44,219 --> 00:34:50,039
occlusion or some other vascular uh
774
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,439
dysfunction leading to chronic
775
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:55,918
inflammation damaged mitochondrial
776
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,240
respiration uh then you have
777
00:34:55,918 --> 00:35:00,179
um a
778
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:03,000
uh cancer is more common for people than
779
00:35:00,179 --> 00:35:05,219
younger people mainly because the damage
780
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,019
to the mitochondria can occur more
781
00:35:05,219 --> 00:35:07,819
gradually the longer you live on the
782
00:35:07,019 --> 00:35:11,639
planet
783
00:35:07,820 --> 00:35:13,640
type 2 diabetes obesity all of these
784
00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:16,799
conditions increase
785
00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:20,940
inflammation in the body inflammation
786
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:24,480
can damage mitochondria in some cell or
787
00:35:20,940 --> 00:35:28,260
tissue leading to cancer chronic
788
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,300
irritation can lead to melanoma can lead
789
00:35:28,260 --> 00:35:31,680
to colon cancer can lead to breast
790
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:34,800
cancer can lead to all of these things
791
00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:38,519
so and all cancers come from chronic
792
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:40,500
damage to oxidative phosphorylation and
793
00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:42,358
if the cells usually that will kill cell
794
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:44,460
but if the cell can upregulate
795
00:35:42,358 --> 00:35:46,858
fermentation it can bypass the natural
796
00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:50,519
death pathway and thereby become
797
00:35:46,858 --> 00:35:53,519
dysregulated growth and cancer so we
798
00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:55,940
clearly understand the origin of cancer
799
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:59,820
how it starts
800
00:35:55,940 --> 00:36:02,400
what it needs to grow and what's more
801
00:35:59,820 --> 00:36:08,039
important how to stop it and manage it
802
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:11,400
we know all of this clearly now so the
803
00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:14,400
problem is nobody believes it and nobody
804
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:18,780
wants to act upon it uh or understand it
805
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:21,539
so consequently millions of people must
806
00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:24,420
die needlessly throughout the world
807
00:36:21,539 --> 00:36:25,440
because people cannot understand what I
808
00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:30,960
just said
809
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:32,760
so basically to summarize
810
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,679
you have to take care of your
811
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:39,780
mitochondria
812
00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:41,879
if you're exactly yes wait wait stop
813
00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:44,220
say that again
814
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:47,940
you must take care of your mitochondria
815
00:36:44,219 --> 00:36:49,259
you must take care of your mitochondria
816
00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:50,900
yes
817
00:36:49,260 --> 00:36:55,800
and exercise
818
00:36:50,900 --> 00:37:00,000
and uh correct eating is the way to best
819
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:01,800
uh do this now of course some people
820
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,039
like to party
821
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:07,500
uh some people like to drink and smoke
822
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:10,500
and do all these kinds of things that we
823
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:13,039
all that many people like to do
824
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:16,380
um as long as you don't do it too much
825
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:19,739
uh so if people feel like oh I went to a
826
00:37:16,380 --> 00:37:22,380
party and I drank and I smoked uh now I
827
00:37:19,739 --> 00:37:25,159
put myself at risk for cancer what can I
828
00:37:22,380 --> 00:37:28,858
do okay then uh stop eating for two days
829
00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:30,598
uh and drink water only and reconfir and
830
00:37:28,858 --> 00:37:32,400
re re-establish health of your
831
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:34,920
mitochondria
832
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:38,519
um and you might be able to delay this
833
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:40,858
uh try to avoid obesity try to avoid
834
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:42,960
type 2 diabetes all these diseases are
835
00:37:40,858 --> 00:37:45,480
all all related to mitochondrial
836
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,960
dysfunction so in one way or the other
837
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:51,960
so people now should know what to do I'm
838
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:54,358
not saying everybody should you know do
839
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,400
water only fasting but I'm saying now we
840
00:37:54,358 --> 00:37:59,219
understand what causes cancer we should
841
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:03,059
be able to uh adjust diet and lifestyle
842
00:37:59,219 --> 00:38:06,179
to it to deal with that so the simplest
843
00:38:03,059 --> 00:38:10,380
way to prevent or
844
00:38:06,179 --> 00:38:13,379
manage it let's say would be to
845
00:38:10,380 --> 00:38:17,280
be the ketogenic state
846
00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:20,160
don't think or well and I ideally don't
847
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:23,460
say don't smoke go to bed at a decent
848
00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:25,559
time no no no no no I didn't say no okay
849
00:38:23,460 --> 00:38:28,740
okay please practice don't don't drink
850
00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:30,380
or smoke too much oh too much okay
851
00:38:28,739 --> 00:38:32,879
yeah yeah yeah
852
00:38:30,380 --> 00:38:34,559
I mean guys smoke cigarettes all day
853
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,059
long they put themselves at risk for
854
00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:38,519
lung cancer colon cancer and other
855
00:38:36,059 --> 00:38:42,139
cancers but I you know you smoke one
856
00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:44,579
cigarette a a day or or one cigar a week
857
00:38:42,139 --> 00:38:47,098
uh I I don't think that's gonna kill you
858
00:38:44,579 --> 00:38:48,720
okay so uh or give you it's gonna it's
859
00:38:47,099 --> 00:38:51,300
not going to increase your risk for
860
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:54,659
cancer too much if you want to be pure
861
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:57,060
and most humans are not pure you do
862
00:38:54,659 --> 00:38:59,279
water only fasting right and most people
863
00:38:57,059 --> 00:39:00,960
don't want to do that so you think
864
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,540
Italians want to go out and just drink
865
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,220
water for a week I don't think so right
866
00:39:03,539 --> 00:39:07,139
who wants the Germans are going to do
867
00:39:05,219 --> 00:39:09,719
that I don't think so either you know
868
00:39:07,139 --> 00:39:12,118
Chinese Nana most people are not going
869
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,559
to do these kinds of things right even
870
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:16,680
though that's what would prevent cancer
871
00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:17,940
cancer is a disease of diet and
872
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:19,980
lifestyle
873
00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:24,260
uh primitive people
874
00:39:19,980 --> 00:39:30,838
uh Aboriginal people rarely had cancer
875
00:39:24,260 --> 00:39:35,099
so our ancestors of 50 000 years ago
876
00:39:30,838 --> 00:39:39,719
cancer was extremely rare uh uh even in
877
00:39:35,099 --> 00:39:43,079
even today in Aboriginal populations
878
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:46,199
um cancer is very very rare in Eskimos
879
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:49,980
and Africans and South American jungle
880
00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:52,799
people Aboriginal people live in a in a
881
00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:56,639
lifestyle similar to 50 000 years ago
882
00:39:52,800 --> 00:40:00,119
so a cancer is extremely rare
883
00:39:56,639 --> 00:40:00,960
um cancer is very rare in in the wolf in
884
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:04,200
the wolf
885
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:07,079
uh cancer and domestic all domestic dogs
886
00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:09,358
uh came from the wolf
887
00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:10,740
um but cancer is number one killer of
888
00:40:09,358 --> 00:40:13,619
domestic dogs
889
00:40:10,739 --> 00:40:15,479
uh dogs eat the same food we eat I mean
890
00:40:13,619 --> 00:40:18,599
they're eating too much of the wrong
891
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:21,780
food and they get cancer uh wolf eats
892
00:40:18,599 --> 00:40:24,240
natural things uh anybody who lives in
893
00:40:21,780 --> 00:40:27,800
the Paleolithic lifestyle
894
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:30,419
is at much lower risk for cancer
895
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:34,019
Paleolithic how we did it how we lived
896
00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:37,260
uh 50 000 years ago okay
897
00:40:34,019 --> 00:40:39,300
what did you eat what did our ancestors
898
00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:43,800
eat 50
899
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:46,500
000 years ago they ate animals uh they
900
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:49,920
ate whatever kind of plants and berries
901
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:52,800
and things like this uh they exercised a
902
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:56,099
lot you had to chase and kill the deer
903
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:58,859
in order to eat the deer okay today we
904
00:40:56,099 --> 00:41:00,599
drive up to McDonald's and they pass the
905
00:40:58,858 --> 00:41:02,819
food through the window and you don't
906
00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:05,460
even have to get out of the car to get
907
00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:09,119
the food right and therefore you get
908
00:41:05,460 --> 00:41:11,039
diabetes obesity and cancer and dementia
909
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:15,900
and all the kinds of things because of
910
00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:18,358
diet and lifestyle so uh you know but no
911
00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:20,820
one wants to go and kill deers and eat
912
00:41:18,358 --> 00:41:22,210
deer so uh they prefer to have someone
913
00:41:20,820 --> 00:41:24,660
else kill it and feed it to them
914
00:41:22,210 --> 00:41:28,880
[Laughter]
915
00:41:24,659 --> 00:41:32,940
no no rice no pasta
916
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:35,338
no bread you know you didn't have we
917
00:41:32,940 --> 00:41:38,639
didn't have any of that stuff 50 000
918
00:41:35,338 --> 00:41:42,420
years ago you know so the Paleolithic
919
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:45,960
the Neolithic period I think started
920
00:41:42,420 --> 00:41:48,659
around 10 000 years ago
921
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:52,619
um when we started to cultivate greens
922
00:41:48,659 --> 00:41:55,618
corn rice wheat uh and then we made
923
00:41:52,619 --> 00:41:59,960
bread and then we made pasta and then we
924
00:41:55,619 --> 00:41:59,960
developed rice and then we got cancer
925
00:42:03,139 --> 00:42:09,719
so so think about that it's it's our
926
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:11,519
society it's industrial society and
927
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,279
civilization and we're not going to go
928
00:42:11,519 --> 00:42:17,519
back to Paleolithic periods so we just
929
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:21,180
have to learn to occasionally modulate
930
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:25,400
what we eat and continue to get exercise
931
00:42:21,179 --> 00:42:25,399
bring a few ancient things
932
00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:33,180
can you hear me
933
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:36,119
say that say that here like um I said we
934
00:42:33,179 --> 00:42:38,098
should bring a few ancient things to the
935
00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:41,460
now
936
00:42:38,099 --> 00:42:43,800
oh absolutely you know absolutely I mean
937
00:42:41,460 --> 00:42:46,619
it's good to go uh I mean are our
938
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,420
species existed I think from one million
939
00:42:46,619 --> 00:42:51,539
years
940
00:42:47,420 --> 00:42:53,579
uh uh human the human is about one
941
00:42:51,539 --> 00:42:57,659
million some people say six cultures
942
00:42:53,579 --> 00:43:00,119
started maybe 600 000 years ago
943
00:42:57,659 --> 00:43:02,159
um you know but that's not long people
944
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:06,180
say oh six hundred thousand years a long
945
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:09,000
time no it's not the Earth is uh uh four
946
00:43:06,179 --> 00:43:11,279
billion years old 3.5 billion years old
947
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,719
so the human species has only been on
948
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,599
the planet for a short period of time
949
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:18,078
right and already we have cancer and
950
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:18,079
diabetes
951
00:43:19,099 --> 00:43:25,800
obesity right the Obesity when you see
952
00:43:23,099 --> 00:43:29,460
an obese person they are the survivors
953
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:31,800
from the Paleolithic period they that's
954
00:43:29,460 --> 00:43:33,358
evolution in action those people are
955
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,220
living in the wrong environment today
956
00:43:33,358 --> 00:43:37,380
but they were the people that survived
957
00:43:35,219 --> 00:43:39,299
famine and starvation their body could
958
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:40,800
hold all this energy now they eat
959
00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:43,079
cannolis every day and eat bread with
960
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:46,200
butter on it and they get fat you know
961
00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:48,119
so uh this is and then they get diabetes
962
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:49,500
and then they get cancer I mean this is
963
00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:52,318
not a cut this is not a complicated
964
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:54,858
problem yeah some say we are at Peak
965
00:43:52,318 --> 00:43:58,559
civilization right
966
00:43:54,858 --> 00:44:01,679
yes you know but no but we're not going
967
00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:03,059
to go back to the Paleolithic period but
968
00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:06,779
at least you know
969
00:44:03,059 --> 00:44:09,659
that if you go back and okay eat the
970
00:44:06,780 --> 00:44:12,240
yeah what did we eat okay we killed uh
971
00:44:09,659 --> 00:44:14,338
animals human beings killed animals we
972
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,500
did not evolve as a vegetarian species
973
00:44:14,338 --> 00:44:18,239
if we were all vegetarians like the cow
974
00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:21,599
we would not exist today
975
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:23,578
so uh we eat cows right we eat pigs we
976
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:24,960
eat anything that walks across we'll
977
00:44:23,579 --> 00:44:27,300
even eat each other occasionally
978
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:31,019
cannibals right that was part of our
979
00:44:27,300 --> 00:44:34,019
existence so um but uh yeah meat was
980
00:44:31,019 --> 00:44:35,818
always part of the uh human diet uh
981
00:44:34,019 --> 00:44:38,960
vegetables were always part of the where
982
00:44:35,818 --> 00:44:43,739
what we call omnivores we eat everything
983
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:46,139
uh we can uh eat everything now even to
984
00:44:43,739 --> 00:44:49,500
manage cancer if you are a vegan or
985
00:44:46,139 --> 00:44:51,000
vegetarian or carnivore or whatever uh
986
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:53,099
pescatel whatever they want to call
987
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,318
these guys that we'd only fish you know
988
00:44:53,099 --> 00:44:57,359
or whatever it is you just measure your
989
00:44:55,318 --> 00:44:59,338
blood sugar and ketones and it tells you
990
00:44:57,358 --> 00:45:00,659
uh what level of Health you're in it
991
00:44:59,338 --> 00:45:02,699
doesn't make any difference what you eat
992
00:45:00,659 --> 00:45:04,920
as long as you can keep a low gki
993
00:45:02,699 --> 00:45:07,318
glucose Ketone index you can you can
994
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,180
reduce risk to cancer you know you don't
995
00:45:07,318 --> 00:45:11,219
do it all the time but occasionally you
996
00:45:09,179 --> 00:45:14,219
might so everybody goes out buys a meter
997
00:45:11,219 --> 00:45:16,739
you know and double checks their blood
998
00:45:14,219 --> 00:45:18,598
sugar uh and people can monitor their
999
00:45:16,739 --> 00:45:19,919
own health you don't need to go to the a
1000
00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:21,660
physician to tell you what's going on
1001
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,460
you just know if you keep blood sugar
1002
00:45:21,659 --> 00:45:24,838
low and ketones elevated occasionally
1003
00:45:23,460 --> 00:45:28,380
you're probably going to be healthier
1004
00:45:24,838 --> 00:45:30,119
than the guy who doesn't do that yeah
1005
00:45:28,380 --> 00:45:32,220
and um
1006
00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:34,079
what do you think are
1007
00:45:32,219 --> 00:45:37,318
well it's kind of obvious that the
1008
00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:40,560
interests that keep this kind of
1009
00:45:37,318 --> 00:45:43,139
knowledge small but like maybe you want
1010
00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:45,318
to come and a little bit of that
1011
00:45:43,139 --> 00:45:48,059
I'll say that again
1012
00:45:45,318 --> 00:45:49,940
the interest of keeping this kind of
1013
00:45:48,059 --> 00:45:53,099
research small
1014
00:45:49,940 --> 00:45:56,400
so the farmer and how it's like this is
1015
00:45:53,099 --> 00:45:58,500
like basically free treatment right so
1016
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,780
there's nobody that's yeah well no it's
1017
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:03,599
both pre you're asking by by
1018
00:46:00,780 --> 00:46:07,440
understanding metabolism you can
1019
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:10,079
Institute uh a lifestyle that will
1020
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,900
reduce cancer risk
1021
00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:15,359
um you know people people can avoid
1022
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:18,240
those risk factors I think if they're
1023
00:46:15,358 --> 00:46:20,940
aware of them unfortunately sometimes
1024
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,799
the poor people find themselves in
1025
00:46:20,940 --> 00:46:25,200
environments where there are more toxins
1026
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,900
in the environment uh which
1027
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:30,179
unfortunately happens in many countries
1028
00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:33,300
where the poor are always next to power
1029
00:46:30,179 --> 00:46:33,899
plants or some something like that
1030
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:36,960
um
1031
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:40,200
that's prevention but I think I think
1032
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,940
that a majority of people uh want to
1033
00:46:40,199 --> 00:46:43,919
know what you can do to manage the
1034
00:46:41,940 --> 00:46:44,818
cancer once you are diagnosed with
1035
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,880
cancer
1036
00:46:44,818 --> 00:46:50,338
and there's where you can improve
1037
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:52,559
survival significantly if you treat the
1038
00:46:50,338 --> 00:46:56,759
disease as a mitochondrial metabolic
1039
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:59,239
disease the probability of survival with
1040
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:02,579
a higher quality of life
1041
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:04,318
becomes much better uh when you
1042
00:47:02,579 --> 00:47:06,720
understand that cancer is metabolic
1043
00:47:04,318 --> 00:47:09,420
disease and not a genetic disease so I
1044
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,919
think it's an educational not only for
1045
00:47:09,420 --> 00:47:12,180
the pharmaceutical not only for the
1046
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,159
Physicians but also the general
1047
00:47:12,179 --> 00:47:16,679
population as well once people
1048
00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:18,539
understand what cancer is they know how
1049
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:20,639
to prevent it and if they get it they
1050
00:47:18,539 --> 00:47:24,300
know how to better treat it so it'll be
1051
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:28,460
a learning process and what I say is is
1052
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:31,760
going to be the standard in the future
1053
00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:34,139
eventually people will become educated
1054
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:37,200
and will tell the far to tell the
1055
00:47:34,139 --> 00:47:39,139
doctors I I don't want uh chemo I don't
1056
00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:41,818
want radiation I don't want
1057
00:47:39,139 --> 00:47:44,098
immunotherapy what what do you want I
1058
00:47:41,818 --> 00:47:46,679
want metabolic therapy please give me
1059
00:47:44,099 --> 00:47:48,780
metabolic therapy and if the if the
1060
00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:51,598
doctor says well I don't know how to do
1061
00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:53,160
that the cancer patient will say then I
1062
00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:54,480
will find somebody who knows how to do
1063
00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:56,940
that and go to them
1064
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,159
because it will change nobody wants
1065
00:47:56,940 --> 00:48:00,960
radiation and chemo nobody wants that
1066
00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:04,139
they want to get rid of their cancer
1067
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:07,559
without toxicity metabolic therapy can
1068
00:48:04,139 --> 00:48:09,118
do that yes and I think it's possible
1069
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:12,059
now because
1070
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:13,019
like knowledge has been through the
1071
00:48:12,059 --> 00:48:15,420
internet
1072
00:48:13,019 --> 00:48:19,139
um democratized right so everybody has
1073
00:48:15,420 --> 00:48:21,960
basically access to everything if they
1074
00:48:19,139 --> 00:48:25,739
search for it sure that it's like you
1075
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:28,079
have to be careful but it's not like 50
1076
00:48:25,739 --> 00:48:30,719
years ago where the only source of
1077
00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:33,800
knowledge would have been the TV or
1078
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:37,078
actually your doctor or some kind of
1079
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,519
professional right so I think it's gonna
1080
00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:43,619
be
1081
00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:47,460
from The Roots up the the the thing the
1082
00:48:43,619 --> 00:48:49,619
person looking for it and then
1083
00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:52,199
in through that way it will become
1084
00:48:49,619 --> 00:48:54,300
common knowledge probably
1085
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:55,799
yeah I I agree
1086
00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:59,940
I mean the internet
1087
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,960
and media have a very powerful effect
1088
00:48:59,940 --> 00:49:03,119
um
1089
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,619
you know they can get the word out but
1090
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:07,200
you also have to be careful because
1091
00:49:04,619 --> 00:49:10,559
there's a lot of things that
1092
00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:12,358
people follow on the internet that are
1093
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:14,400
incorrect
1094
00:49:12,358 --> 00:49:15,659
um and are not supported by hard
1095
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,800
scientific
1096
00:49:15,659 --> 00:49:23,818
work our work we publish peer-reviewed
1097
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:27,780
scientific papers uh establishing the
1098
00:49:23,818 --> 00:49:29,338
concepts and and pre-clinical research
1099
00:49:27,780 --> 00:49:32,700
showing
1100
00:49:29,338 --> 00:49:35,279
what what is correct and then you take
1101
00:49:32,699 --> 00:49:37,500
that if you understand cancer
1102
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:40,079
you should be able to develop a therapy
1103
00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:42,239
to manage the disease effectively and we
1104
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:45,000
are doing that more and more cancer
1105
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:48,539
patients with these Advanced cancers are
1106
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:50,338
surviving better uh why because we know
1107
00:49:48,539 --> 00:49:52,679
we know what the nature of the disease
1108
00:49:50,338 --> 00:49:55,500
is the problem is
1109
00:49:52,679 --> 00:50:00,118
um the big the big hospitals and
1110
00:49:55,500 --> 00:50:05,639
academic research centers uh do not uh
1111
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:07,380
um yet uh accept accept this they still
1112
00:50:05,639 --> 00:50:09,358
think cancer is a genetic disease
1113
00:50:07,380 --> 00:50:11,220
because they were indoctrinated
1114
00:50:09,358 --> 00:50:13,199
brainwashed to believe this kind of
1115
00:50:11,219 --> 00:50:14,159
thing they have never heard of the
1116
00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:16,679
alternative
1117
00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:18,539
so they think oh no I can't be right
1118
00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:21,480
because we know cancer is a genetic
1119
00:50:18,539 --> 00:50:23,400
disease no no no no they're incorrect
1120
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,659
it's not a genetic disease and then some
1121
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,119
people say well I can never accept
1122
00:50:24,659 --> 00:50:30,000
cancer being anything other than genetic
1123
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:32,818
disease so therefore you you have these
1124
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:35,338
forces that prevent metabolic therapy
1125
00:50:32,818 --> 00:50:37,800
from being becoming the standard of care
1126
00:50:35,338 --> 00:50:40,920
and then uh you're right about you know
1127
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:43,318
uh how do you earn money if you are a
1128
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:46,139
physician you know telling people don't
1129
00:50:43,318 --> 00:50:48,539
eat carbohydrate Foods you know it's
1130
00:50:46,139 --> 00:50:51,539
like uh how if you're a radiation
1131
00:50:48,539 --> 00:50:54,058
oncologist uh why would you want to
1132
00:50:51,539 --> 00:50:55,920
irradiate somebody when they don't need
1133
00:50:54,059 --> 00:50:57,720
to be irradiated
1134
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,000
um how do you justify irradiating
1135
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,459
somebody that I can I can get rid of the
1136
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,559
tumor by restricting glucose and
1137
00:51:02,460 --> 00:51:06,420
glutamine and then the tumor disappears
1138
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:08,579
or becomes very indolent why should I go
1139
00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:11,159
for radiation therapy doesn't make any
1140
00:51:08,579 --> 00:51:13,740
sense you know why should I take a toxic
1141
00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:15,420
chemical to kill my tumor when I can
1142
00:51:13,739 --> 00:51:18,358
just take away glucose and glutamine to
1143
00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:20,880
kill the tumor so uh um you know it's
1144
00:51:18,358 --> 00:51:23,159
without causing toxicity or going bald
1145
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,780
or any of those kinds of things so this
1146
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:27,598
is going to be a very difficult thing
1147
00:51:24,780 --> 00:51:29,460
for many people to accept but hey you
1148
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:31,440
want to manage cancer you do it you do
1149
00:51:29,460 --> 00:51:33,720
it what we're saying if not then you go
1150
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:36,000
and take chemo and radiation people
1151
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,799
we're not stopping anybody who wants to
1152
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,358
have radiation and chemo I'm not
1153
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,280
stopping them I'm not telling them go
1154
00:51:39,358 --> 00:51:43,139
and do radiation to chemo if they want
1155
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,420
to do radiation and chemo that's their
1156
00:51:43,139 --> 00:51:48,118
that's their choice the doctor says oh
1157
00:51:45,420 --> 00:51:50,400
yes you must do radiation and chemo and
1158
00:51:48,119 --> 00:51:52,800
uh he says that uh well what about other
1159
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:55,200
things well radiation and chemo are the
1160
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:58,200
only things that I know about so until
1161
00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:59,939
he knows does he know the Warburg theory
1162
00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:01,919
of cancer does the physician understand
1163
00:51:59,940 --> 00:52:03,659
that glucose and glutamine are the only
1164
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,760
fuels driving the cancer that he's
1165
00:52:03,659 --> 00:52:07,679
trying to manage if not then go find
1166
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,240
somebody else that does understand this
1167
00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:11,098
you know that the field is going to have
1168
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,959
to change quickly otherwise we're
1169
00:52:11,099 --> 00:52:15,420
killing all these poor people are dying
1170
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:18,900
yes unfortunately
1171
00:52:15,420 --> 00:52:22,858
um can you talk a little bit about some
1172
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:25,079
of like your patients transformations
1173
00:52:22,858 --> 00:52:27,900
that you've seen so that people yeah
1174
00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:30,359
about what's possible uh there's there's
1175
00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:31,800
a new film coming out uh called the
1176
00:52:30,358 --> 00:52:34,980
cancer Revolution
1177
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:38,280
it's a documentary film and they
1178
00:52:34,980 --> 00:52:41,519
interview many many uh stage four cancer
1179
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,540
patients who who uh what they call
1180
00:52:41,519 --> 00:52:45,539
terminal
1181
00:52:42,539 --> 00:52:47,699
uh who are no longer terminal
1182
00:52:45,539 --> 00:52:48,659
um so there's uh they relay their
1183
00:52:47,699 --> 00:52:51,239
stories
1184
00:52:48,659 --> 00:52:53,639
uh Pablo Kelly from England
1185
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:56,699
uh he's on the web now telling everybody
1186
00:52:53,639 --> 00:52:59,098
how he survived pleoplastoma
1187
00:52:56,699 --> 00:53:02,219
um with metabolic therapy so more and
1188
00:52:59,099 --> 00:53:04,500
more people uh who should be dead
1189
00:53:02,219 --> 00:53:07,679
uh are telling others what they did to
1190
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:08,940
survive and um so those guys become
1191
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:12,838
advocates
1192
00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:15,780
uh to the metabolic therapy and
1193
00:53:12,838 --> 00:53:17,779
um you know uh more and more of these
1194
00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:20,640
people are appearing on the social media
1195
00:53:17,780 --> 00:53:23,460
so uh I think uh and that's another
1196
00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:27,239
motivational Factor they want to be they
1197
00:53:23,460 --> 00:53:30,838
can tell others what they did to survive
1198
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:34,879
and so even with stage four cancer
1199
00:53:30,838 --> 00:53:34,880
There's Hope basically
1200
00:53:35,179 --> 00:53:40,078
yeah you know they always say terminal
1201
00:53:38,219 --> 00:53:42,239
cancer
1202
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:44,700
um people say oh I'm diagnosed with
1203
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,919
terminal cancer who says that terminal
1204
00:53:44,699 --> 00:53:48,598
cancer the guy who's treating you with
1205
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,519
radiation and chemo is telling you it's
1206
00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:51,780
a terminal cancer because you know we
1207
00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:53,519
did everything to the patient the
1208
00:53:51,780 --> 00:53:55,079
Cancer's still there yeah you did
1209
00:53:53,519 --> 00:53:56,759
everything except Target glucose and
1210
00:53:55,079 --> 00:53:58,318
glutamine you know once you start
1211
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:01,020
targeting glucose and glutamine and
1212
00:53:58,318 --> 00:54:03,980
transitioning the body to ketosis you'll
1213
00:54:01,019 --> 00:54:06,599
do much better now and that doesn't mean
1214
00:54:03,980 --> 00:54:07,440
unfortunately people so many people come
1215
00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:10,440
to me
1216
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:12,659
after chemo and radiation and immuno
1217
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,400
none of that stuff works and then the
1218
00:54:12,659 --> 00:54:16,558
physician says oh there's nothing more
1219
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,358
we can do uh well you did almost
1220
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:20,519
everything to kill the poor patient and
1221
00:54:18,358 --> 00:54:22,500
and now now you're telling me you can't
1222
00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:25,380
do it anymore so
1223
00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:27,059
um you know uh not and then the patient
1224
00:54:25,380 --> 00:54:30,119
tries metabolic therapy and it doesn't
1225
00:54:27,059 --> 00:54:33,480
work only because the body has been so
1226
00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:35,700
beat up and destroyed by toxic poisons
1227
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,519
and radiation that the body can no
1228
00:54:35,699 --> 00:54:41,399
longer rally in a healthy way to defeat
1229
00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:43,199
the cancer so uh usually most of the
1230
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,460
people who start metabolic therapy up
1231
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:46,139
front
1232
00:54:44,460 --> 00:54:48,539
um really do well and they never need
1233
00:54:46,139 --> 00:54:52,139
radiation or chemo and if they do chemo
1234
00:54:48,539 --> 00:54:54,179
uh it's it's very low dose for a much
1235
00:54:52,139 --> 00:54:55,799
shorter period of time with minimal if
1236
00:54:54,179 --> 00:54:59,219
any toxicity
1237
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:01,140
that's that's good to hear
1238
00:54:59,219 --> 00:55:03,659
so
1239
00:55:01,139 --> 00:55:07,879
basically
1240
00:55:03,659 --> 00:55:07,879
cut out the sugar right
1241
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,740
well I mean it depends it
1242
00:55:11,099 --> 00:55:15,960
uh if you don't have cancer
1243
00:55:13,739 --> 00:55:18,598
uh why you want to cut out sugar sugar
1244
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:21,240
does not cause cancer
1245
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:22,440
sugar feeds cancer if you have the
1246
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,838
cancer
1247
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:30,119
sugar will feed it sugar doesn't cause
1248
00:55:24,838 --> 00:55:33,719
cancer if you eat too much carbohydrates
1249
00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:36,900
and get inflammation in the body like
1250
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:39,358
obesity and type 2 diabetes that is a
1251
00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:43,318
risk factor for causing cancer
1252
00:55:39,358 --> 00:55:46,500
so uh Sugar by itself is not a
1253
00:55:43,318 --> 00:55:50,358
carcinogen but too much sugar in the
1254
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:54,659
body can cause inflammation inflammation
1255
00:55:50,358 --> 00:55:56,880
can cause cancer okay so uh again it's
1256
00:55:54,659 --> 00:55:59,039
all one of degree so I'm not telling
1257
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:02,039
people don't go out and eat the cannoli
1258
00:55:59,039 --> 00:56:05,000
you know or eat stop eating pizza or you
1259
00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:07,380
know whatever else potatoes and pasta no
1260
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,358
uh I'm I'm saying if you don't have
1261
00:56:07,380 --> 00:56:11,818
cancer you can eat the cannoli and the
1262
00:56:09,358 --> 00:56:14,940
pizza and the pasta or the potato or the
1263
00:56:11,818 --> 00:56:16,920
bread but but uh if you have cancer you
1264
00:56:14,940 --> 00:56:18,780
would not eat those kinds of things and
1265
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,880
would you
1266
00:56:18,780 --> 00:56:23,460
um
1267
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:25,858
recommend going more on a ketogenic diet
1268
00:56:23,460 --> 00:56:29,519
as a prevention or only
1269
00:56:25,858 --> 00:56:31,318
as a treatment basically
1270
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:34,259
no no you actually there's a lot of
1271
00:56:31,318 --> 00:56:36,480
people who do that uh some people decide
1272
00:56:34,260 --> 00:56:38,520
to go on a ketogenic diet for say three
1273
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:41,579
or four weeks
1274
00:56:38,519 --> 00:56:44,400
um they do that to get healthy uh they
1275
00:56:41,579 --> 00:56:48,180
get they lose weight uh they get
1276
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:50,039
healthier uh and then they feel good and
1277
00:56:48,179 --> 00:56:52,259
some people are always on that kind of a
1278
00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:54,480
diet I have friends that are always in
1279
00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:57,359
some sort of ketosis
1280
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:59,039
um you know they don't you know I like
1281
00:56:57,358 --> 00:57:02,598
to drink whiskey every now and then and
1282
00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:05,338
eat bread you know uh I I would have to
1283
00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:07,980
intermittent fasting is easier than
1284
00:57:05,338 --> 00:57:10,380
going on these long-term ketogenic diets
1285
00:57:07,980 --> 00:57:13,619
and things like this you know so yeah
1286
00:57:10,380 --> 00:57:15,838
beer I mean I like beer uh but if I had
1287
00:57:13,619 --> 00:57:18,599
cancer I could not do it
1288
00:57:15,838 --> 00:57:20,699
so but I don't have cancer so I'll drink
1289
00:57:18,599 --> 00:57:23,700
beer and if I ever get cancer I don't
1290
00:57:20,699 --> 00:57:26,759
drink beer so um you do and you try to
1291
00:57:23,699 --> 00:57:28,259
reduce what you the risk factors you try
1292
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:31,020
to avoid respect
1293
00:57:28,260 --> 00:57:32,099
don't forget cancer is a disease of the
1294
00:57:31,019 --> 00:57:34,500
lifestyle
1295
00:57:32,099 --> 00:57:36,720
and uh it's a part of being in a
1296
00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:39,119
civilized society the risk for cancer
1297
00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:42,058
and no one wants to go back and to live
1298
00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:44,460
in a primitive Paleolithic period nobody
1299
00:57:42,059 --> 00:57:47,819
wants to do that so we have to just know
1300
00:57:44,460 --> 00:57:49,920
things how do I reduce risk and if I get
1301
00:57:47,818 --> 00:57:52,259
cancer what can I do to manage the
1302
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:55,440
disease without toxicity this is the
1303
00:57:52,260 --> 00:57:59,300
knowledge that we are uh showing what to
1304
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,300
do and how to do it I think this
1305
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:10,380
is maybe contact with you or with your
1306
00:58:07,559 --> 00:58:13,140
papers is there I heard this somewhere
1307
00:58:10,380 --> 00:58:15,000
where they can donate to support the
1308
00:58:13,139 --> 00:58:18,299
research
1309
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:20,880
our our major donation site is the
1310
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:24,599
foundation for cancer uh metabolic
1311
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:26,880
therapy which is Travis christopherson's
1312
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:30,780
Foundation
1313
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:34,740
um so uh and I mentioned this on the in
1314
00:58:30,780 --> 00:58:38,099
my in my um a lot of people contact me
1315
00:58:34,739 --> 00:58:40,858
uh and I give them a kit of information
1316
00:58:38,099 --> 00:58:43,500
uh I can't tell people what to do and
1317
00:58:40,858 --> 00:58:45,179
what not to do I'm not a physician I
1318
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:46,318
cannot practice I do not practice
1319
00:58:45,179 --> 00:58:49,379
medicine
1320
00:58:46,318 --> 00:58:50,460
I just give people information it's the
1321
00:58:49,380 --> 00:58:52,440
information
1322
00:58:50,460 --> 00:58:54,960
that gives them the knowledge that gives
1323
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,920
them the power to understand what they
1324
00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:01,318
what they should do or what they can do
1325
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:04,920
and uh in that information kit uh
1326
00:59:01,318 --> 00:59:07,079
there's a a donation site people donate
1327
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:10,380
uh whatever they feel they would like to
1328
00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:13,380
donate to our research uh through Travis
1329
00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:16,500
christopherson's foundation for uh
1330
00:59:13,380 --> 00:59:20,240
cancer metabolic therapy
1331
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:23,699
um and that's where we get most of our
1332
00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:26,578
research support from philanthropy and
1333
00:59:23,699 --> 00:59:31,199
people who who use metabolic therapy and
1334
00:59:26,579 --> 00:59:33,720
survive and do very well uh they uh they
1335
00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:36,598
donate to our website or to donate to
1336
00:59:33,719 --> 00:59:38,699
the foundation which is only right why
1337
00:59:36,599 --> 00:59:41,099
you accept money from anybody
1338
00:59:38,699 --> 00:59:43,679
uh when they don't survive the treatment
1339
00:59:41,099 --> 00:59:46,200
that you give them you know the the
1340
00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:49,858
patients go to the hospitals they pay
1341
00:59:46,199 --> 00:59:52,318
large amounts of money uh to be treated
1342
00:59:49,858 --> 00:59:55,679
and then they don't survive they they
1343
00:59:52,318 --> 00:59:57,420
should only be uh money should only be
1344
00:59:55,679 --> 01:00:00,598
taken if the people if the patient
1345
00:59:57,420 --> 01:00:02,159
survives the doctor should give the
1346
01:00:00,599 --> 01:00:04,200
treatment to the patient if the patient
1347
01:00:02,159 --> 01:00:05,940
survives then the patient pays for the
1348
01:00:04,199 --> 01:00:07,798
treatment if the patient does not
1349
01:00:05,940 --> 01:00:09,720
survive he should not have to pay for
1350
01:00:07,798 --> 01:00:12,179
the cancer treatment you should only pay
1351
01:00:09,719 --> 01:00:14,279
for what works you know and this is the
1352
01:00:12,179 --> 01:00:16,259
way I think the business model is if you
1353
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:18,420
survive cancer every year you survive
1354
01:00:16,260 --> 01:00:20,819
cancer you're the patient the doctor
1355
01:00:18,420 --> 01:00:24,480
should get some some fun for that right
1356
01:00:20,818 --> 01:00:26,880
if I if I live five years okay then he
1357
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:29,579
gets the full amount if he dies within
1358
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:32,818
one year he gets nothing or very little
1359
01:00:29,579 --> 01:00:35,460
right so uh this is a so you make
1360
01:00:32,818 --> 01:00:37,440
donations to support the research only
1361
01:00:35,460 --> 01:00:40,019
if the information that provide that you
1362
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:42,000
get has helped you if the information
1363
01:00:40,019 --> 01:00:44,159
doesn't help you why you contribute to
1364
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:46,440
somebody's foundation so it's very
1365
01:00:44,159 --> 01:00:48,899
logical if the information helps
1366
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,700
contribute to the foundation if the
1367
01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:52,318
information doesn't help don't
1368
01:00:50,699 --> 01:00:56,239
contribute to the foundation
1369
01:00:52,318 --> 01:00:56,239
so uh that's the way I look at it
1370
01:00:58,380 --> 01:01:03,660
why pay for something if it doesn't work
1371
01:01:02,338 --> 01:01:05,578
all those
1372
01:01:03,659 --> 01:01:07,318
horrible treatments that people go
1373
01:01:05,579 --> 01:01:09,359
through makes sense everything I'm
1374
01:01:07,318 --> 01:01:12,019
saying makes a lot of very simple at the
1375
01:01:09,358 --> 01:01:12,019
end of the day right
1376
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,700
yeah well sometimes people don't want
1377
01:01:16,199 --> 01:01:19,919
things to be simple they love
1378
01:01:17,699 --> 01:01:20,939
complicated it makes them feel good that
1379
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,700
they can understand something
1380
01:01:20,940 --> 01:01:25,740
complicated I I don't know it's human
1381
01:01:23,699 --> 01:01:28,199
nature it's basically human nature we're
1382
01:01:25,739 --> 01:01:30,598
all the same everybody's the same we're
1383
01:01:28,199 --> 01:01:32,098
all humans we all think the same way you
1384
01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:33,420
know we all have very the only thing
1385
01:01:32,099 --> 01:01:35,760
that makes us different is culture
1386
01:01:33,420 --> 01:01:38,220
culture and religion changes the way our
1387
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,839
brains think but basically we're all the
1388
01:01:38,219 --> 01:01:41,639
same
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hahaha
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right yeah
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your brain can be worked in different
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ways anyway I will let you go I have a
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meeting to go to thank you so much for
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coming on but uh I hope I hope this
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helped your podcast and uh gets
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information thank you so much I hope
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okay
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