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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,780 --> 00:00:06,480 welcome to episode 5 of my podcast what 2 00:00:03,779 --> 00:00:08,339 if there is a better way I'm Leah in 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,400 this episode I speak with Professor 4 00:00:08,339 --> 00:00:13,138 Thomas seifried it is a special episode 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:16,260 for me because 6 00:00:13,138 --> 00:00:19,980 who isn't affected by cancer in some way 7 00:00:16,260 --> 00:00:22,500 shape or form so I'm hoping this can be 8 00:00:19,980 --> 00:00:24,600 helpful to somebody 9 00:00:22,500 --> 00:00:26,579 it is also possible to donate to his 10 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:29,640 research for anybody who feels called to 11 00:00:26,579 --> 00:00:31,459 do that there is a link down in this 12 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:34,380 description 13 00:00:31,460 --> 00:00:36,660 and there were some technical 14 00:00:34,380 --> 00:00:39,000 difficulties during the recording time 15 00:00:36,659 --> 00:00:41,578 my part of the audio was very quiet so 16 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,840 he had a hard time understanding me 17 00:00:41,579 --> 00:00:44,539 sometimes 18 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,219 I managed to 19 00:00:44,539 --> 00:00:49,200 fix it afterwards but it made the 20 00:00:47,219 --> 00:00:51,300 conversation a little bit chubby so I 21 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,520 apologize 22 00:00:51,299 --> 00:00:56,698 and 23 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:58,920 thank you to Professor Seafood for 24 00:00:56,698 --> 00:01:02,218 coming on and enjoy the show 25 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:05,040 welcome Professor Seafood 26 00:01:02,219 --> 00:01:06,719 Hi how are you nice to be here 27 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:10,219 great to have you 28 00:01:06,719 --> 00:01:10,219 uh can you give a little 29 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,819 I'm a professor of biology at Boston 30 00:01:14,938 --> 00:01:21,000 College here in Chestnut Hill 31 00:01:17,819 --> 00:01:22,859 Massachusetts which is right outside of 32 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,540 the city of Boston actually 33 00:01:22,859 --> 00:01:28,079 and 34 00:01:24,540 --> 00:01:30,380 um I teach the cancer biology class 35 00:01:28,079 --> 00:01:33,359 and I teach General biology 36 00:01:30,379 --> 00:01:34,739 uh to undergraduate students and I have 37 00:01:33,359 --> 00:01:38,340 a very active 38 00:01:34,739 --> 00:01:39,478 uh cancer research laboratory I work 39 00:01:38,340 --> 00:01:44,460 with 40 00:01:39,478 --> 00:01:47,039 um uh Physicians and basic scientists uh 41 00:01:44,459 --> 00:01:49,859 throughout the world 42 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:53,579 very interesting were you always 43 00:01:49,859 --> 00:01:56,938 interested in cancer specifically 44 00:01:53,578 --> 00:01:59,819 um over time well probably for the last 45 00:01:56,938 --> 00:02:01,500 35 uh years 46 00:01:59,819 --> 00:02:04,379 uh for sure 47 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:06,840 but I did a lot of work in the field of 48 00:02:04,379 --> 00:02:09,258 epilepsy genetics 49 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:12,000 uh and these kinds of things 50 00:02:09,258 --> 00:02:14,458 biochemistry lipid biochemistry Tay 51 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:18,360 Sachs disease I I've worked in a lot of 52 00:02:14,459 --> 00:02:21,739 different genetics and biochemical uh on 53 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,739 a lot of these kinds of issues 54 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:28,620 interesting and so you have uh you're a 55 00:02:26,098 --> 00:02:31,199 little bit of a contrarian let's say to 56 00:02:28,620 --> 00:02:34,020 the general 57 00:02:31,199 --> 00:02:37,679 cancer 58 00:02:34,020 --> 00:02:41,580 pieces right so yeah can you 59 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:44,760 can you explain so first of all what 60 00:02:41,580 --> 00:02:49,379 like cancer specifically is and then 61 00:02:44,759 --> 00:02:53,519 compare what the general thought is and 62 00:02:49,378 --> 00:02:55,199 what your research has taught you yeah 63 00:02:53,519 --> 00:02:57,900 a cancer 64 00:02:55,199 --> 00:03:02,238 is defined 65 00:02:57,900 --> 00:03:04,980 as cell division out of control 66 00:03:02,239 --> 00:03:06,959 dysregulated cell growth 67 00:03:04,979 --> 00:03:07,679 okay 68 00:03:06,959 --> 00:03:09,120 um 69 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,560 most 70 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,900 um oncologists 71 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:14,780 think that this is the result of gene 72 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:16,459 mutations 73 00:03:14,780 --> 00:03:20,400 our 74 00:03:16,459 --> 00:03:22,920 theory is different it says that the 75 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:25,260 origin of dysregulated cell growth 76 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,639 arises from the mitochondria and the 77 00:03:25,259 --> 00:03:30,378 cytoplasm 78 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:32,818 and that uh the mutations are 79 00:03:30,378 --> 00:03:34,620 Downstream effects they are not the 80 00:03:32,818 --> 00:03:35,639 cause of cancer they are the effects of 81 00:03:34,620 --> 00:03:38,519 cancer 82 00:03:35,639 --> 00:03:41,219 and that the dysregulated cell growth is 83 00:03:38,519 --> 00:03:43,560 the result of mitochondrial dysfunction 84 00:03:41,219 --> 00:03:46,799 where the cell can no longer generate 85 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:48,959 energy through oxygen but must rely on 86 00:03:46,799 --> 00:03:50,219 Ancient Pathways of fermentation to 87 00:03:48,959 --> 00:03:53,158 generate energy 88 00:03:50,219 --> 00:03:55,199 so energy is everything without energy 89 00:03:53,158 --> 00:03:59,539 nothing can survive 90 00:03:55,199 --> 00:04:02,339 uh energy is the key Essence uh of Life 91 00:03:59,539 --> 00:04:06,359 cancer cells generate energy through 92 00:04:02,340 --> 00:04:09,120 fermentation uh normal cells generate 93 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:11,280 energy through oxidative phosphorylation 94 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:14,879 so the main difference between Cancer 95 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:16,379 cell and normal cell is how they 96 00:04:14,878 --> 00:04:18,418 generate energy 97 00:04:16,379 --> 00:04:21,000 so when you generate energy through 98 00:04:18,418 --> 00:04:22,379 chronic fermentation you collect all 99 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,839 these mutations and all these things 100 00:04:22,379 --> 00:04:26,819 that people study they're all Downstream 101 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:31,638 effects they're not the cause of cancer 102 00:04:26,819 --> 00:04:34,500 the cause of cancer is a dysregulated uh 103 00:04:31,639 --> 00:04:38,100 respiratory system coupled with 104 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:40,439 increased fermentation and the fuel that 105 00:04:38,100 --> 00:04:43,620 drives the fermentation is the amino 106 00:04:40,439 --> 00:04:46,620 acid glutamine and the sugar glucose 107 00:04:43,620 --> 00:04:50,519 so without glucose and glutamine no 108 00:04:46,620 --> 00:04:54,319 cancer cell can survive all other issues 109 00:04:50,519 --> 00:04:54,319 are less important 110 00:04:54,899 --> 00:05:01,739 so where does the cancer get the sugar 111 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:03,860 and the glutamine 112 00:05:01,740 --> 00:05:08,519 where does it get the fuel 113 00:05:03,860 --> 00:05:11,040 to grow yes okay no glucose is in 114 00:05:08,519 --> 00:05:12,959 everywhere right and everything you eat 115 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,960 generates some sort of glucose 116 00:05:12,959 --> 00:05:18,779 and the glutamine is made from glucose 117 00:05:15,959 --> 00:05:20,879 it's non-essential amino acid so you 118 00:05:18,779 --> 00:05:22,079 need drug you you can manage glucose 119 00:05:20,879 --> 00:05:24,538 with diet 120 00:05:22,079 --> 00:05:27,120 uh but you will need a drug 121 00:05:24,538 --> 00:05:31,620 to restrict the glutamine 122 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:34,079 so uh you must Target glucose and 123 00:05:31,620 --> 00:05:36,660 glutamine simultaneously that means 124 00:05:34,079 --> 00:05:40,500 together while transitioning the whole 125 00:05:36,660 --> 00:05:42,600 body over to ketones 126 00:05:40,500 --> 00:05:43,978 um which are derived from fatty acids so 127 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,800 ketogenic diet 128 00:05:43,978 --> 00:05:49,038 together uh restricted ketogenic diet 129 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,478 will lower blood sugar Elevate ketones 130 00:05:49,038 --> 00:05:54,000 uh which is the ketones are for the 131 00:05:51,478 --> 00:05:55,500 normal cells not the tumor cells and 132 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:58,560 then you target the glutamine at the 133 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:59,699 same time and this strategy should 134 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:05,699 manage 135 00:05:59,699 --> 00:06:09,780 all major cancers without toxicity 136 00:06:05,699 --> 00:06:13,020 okay the problem is the problem is no 137 00:06:09,779 --> 00:06:16,978 one can understand this 138 00:06:13,019 --> 00:06:18,180 I I might as well be speaking in ancient 139 00:06:16,978 --> 00:06:22,560 Egyptian 140 00:06:18,180 --> 00:06:24,180 or Greek uh no one can understand what I 141 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,360 just said 142 00:06:24,180 --> 00:06:30,600 um I I it's very simple but no one can 143 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:32,960 understand it so I I'm I'm always 144 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:37,379 wondered how is it possible 145 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:40,500 that I say cancer is a mitochondrial 146 00:06:37,379 --> 00:06:43,560 metabolic disease driven by fermentation 147 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:45,959 and the fermentation fuels are glucose 148 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,360 and glutamine and the tumor cells cannot 149 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:50,758 burn ketones so the solution to the 150 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,560 cancer problem is simultaneously 151 00:06:50,759 --> 00:06:55,199 restriction the glucose and glutamine 152 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:57,240 while transitioning the body over to 153 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:59,759 therapeutic ketosis 154 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,800 keeps the normal cells healthy and 155 00:06:59,759 --> 00:07:03,120 targets and kills the tumor cells at the 156 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,939 same time 157 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:09,860 so but for whatever reason 158 00:07:05,939 --> 00:07:09,860 uh people cannot understand this 159 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,560 thank you I don't know I I think there's 160 00:07:20,699 --> 00:07:23,939 two things number one they don't want to 161 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:27,899 understand it 162 00:07:23,939 --> 00:07:29,639 uh and number two uh it's hard to 163 00:07:27,899 --> 00:07:33,179 generate Revenue 164 00:07:29,639 --> 00:07:35,098 uh when you uh have a very simple 165 00:07:33,180 --> 00:07:37,819 solution to a problem 166 00:07:35,098 --> 00:07:41,579 in other words we do not think 167 00:07:37,819 --> 00:07:45,419 radiation is necessary for the managing 168 00:07:41,579 --> 00:07:49,439 cancer the majority of cancers we don't 169 00:07:45,418 --> 00:07:52,639 think uh toxic chemo is necessary for 170 00:07:49,439 --> 00:07:55,199 managing the majority of cancers 171 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:56,340 immunotherapies that are the the hot 172 00:07:55,199 --> 00:07:58,439 thing today 173 00:07:56,339 --> 00:08:00,359 are all based on the gene theory of 174 00:07:58,439 --> 00:08:03,300 cancer if the gene theory of cancer is 175 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:06,479 incorrect you're not going to achieve 176 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:09,598 the uh success 177 00:08:06,478 --> 00:08:13,620 um that you would that you would have so 178 00:08:09,598 --> 00:08:14,699 I'm telling the world that the view of 179 00:08:13,620 --> 00:08:16,918 cancer 180 00:08:14,699 --> 00:08:19,139 the reason why we have so many deaths 181 00:08:16,918 --> 00:08:22,859 and suffering from cancer 182 00:08:19,139 --> 00:08:24,960 is because the theory is incorrect 183 00:08:22,860 --> 00:08:27,120 once the theory once cancer becomes 184 00:08:24,959 --> 00:08:28,620 recognized as mitochondrial metabolic 185 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:32,038 disease 186 00:08:28,620 --> 00:08:33,418 the disease will be managed effectively 187 00:08:32,038 --> 00:08:36,778 but 188 00:08:33,418 --> 00:08:38,240 it's hard to convince hard to describe 189 00:08:36,778 --> 00:08:40,799 this to people 190 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,479 lay people understand it more than the 191 00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:43,918 scientists understand I think the 192 00:08:42,479 --> 00:08:45,660 scientists understand it they just don't 193 00:08:43,918 --> 00:08:47,159 want to they don't want it to happen 194 00:08:45,659 --> 00:08:49,458 because that means whatever they're 195 00:08:47,159 --> 00:08:52,439 doing is probably insignificant 196 00:08:49,458 --> 00:08:54,719 which is which is kind of unsettling for 197 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:57,720 the majority of cancer researchers 198 00:08:54,720 --> 00:09:00,000 yes a lot of like people's life work 199 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,019 would have to be thrown out the way say 200 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,958 again 201 00:09:01,019 --> 00:09:05,700 a lot of people's life work would have 202 00:09:03,958 --> 00:09:07,859 been have 203 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:10,940 um they would have to throw it out the 204 00:09:07,860 --> 00:09:10,940 window basically 205 00:09:11,278 --> 00:09:15,240 all of the work yeah I wasn't able to 206 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,920 pick that up too clearly yeah again it 207 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,360 was a little soft 208 00:09:16,919 --> 00:09:21,539 oh 209 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:26,339 a lot of people's life work would have 210 00:09:21,539 --> 00:09:27,480 have to be thrown out the window right 211 00:09:26,339 --> 00:09:31,260 um 212 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,519 yes you're correct and that is a very 213 00:09:31,259 --> 00:09:35,278 disturbing 214 00:09:32,519 --> 00:09:36,778 uh to the majority of cancer researchers 215 00:09:35,278 --> 00:09:39,778 that most of what they're doing is 216 00:09:36,778 --> 00:09:41,220 insignificant it's terrible to say that 217 00:09:39,778 --> 00:09:43,139 you know I'm sure that if someone were 218 00:09:41,220 --> 00:09:46,019 to come to me and say you know your 219 00:09:43,139 --> 00:09:48,659 mitochondrial metabolic theory is wrong 220 00:09:46,019 --> 00:09:50,100 and everything that I've been doing is 221 00:09:48,659 --> 00:09:54,539 incorrect 222 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:56,519 my argument is show me tell me provide 223 00:09:54,539 --> 00:09:59,039 me with the data showing that I am 224 00:09:56,519 --> 00:10:01,440 Incorrect and I will be more than happy 225 00:09:59,039 --> 00:10:05,219 to debate and discuss this with anyone 226 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:07,380 and I will clearly show how the how the 227 00:10:05,220 --> 00:10:10,500 somatic mutation Theory the gene theory 228 00:10:07,379 --> 00:10:12,838 is uh incorrect they cannot explain the 229 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:15,679 nuclear transfer experiments they cannot 230 00:10:12,839 --> 00:10:19,620 explain why we have all these oncogene 231 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:22,199 driver genes in normal tissue uh how do 232 00:10:19,620 --> 00:10:23,879 you explain uh cancer mutations in 233 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,100 normal tissue that never become cancer 234 00:10:23,879 --> 00:10:27,899 how do you explain the fact that there 235 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:29,100 is some two tumors that have no 236 00:10:27,899 --> 00:10:31,379 mutations 237 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:34,019 so how can you tell me that cancer is 238 00:10:31,379 --> 00:10:36,179 due to genetic mutations when we have 239 00:10:34,019 --> 00:10:39,659 all of these inconsistencies 240 00:10:36,179 --> 00:10:41,519 so uh the mitochondrial the the somatic 241 00:10:39,659 --> 00:10:43,319 mutation Theory or the gene theory of 242 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:45,839 cancer is flawed 243 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,760 okay so most of the cancer treatments 244 00:10:45,839 --> 00:10:50,880 are based on the gene theory of cancer 245 00:10:47,759 --> 00:10:53,700 if the theory describing the disease or 246 00:10:50,879 --> 00:10:56,100 the phenomenon is incorrect what is the 247 00:10:53,700 --> 00:10:58,920 probability of treating people with 248 00:10:56,100 --> 00:11:00,420 therapies based on an incorrect Theory 249 00:10:58,919 --> 00:11:02,639 you're not going to get the resolution 250 00:11:00,419 --> 00:11:03,958 you're not going to get the effects so 251 00:11:02,639 --> 00:11:06,480 we have to kill 252 00:11:03,958 --> 00:11:10,018 millions of people worldwide 253 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,700 by toxic treatments uh because people 254 00:11:10,019 --> 00:11:13,379 cannot accept the fact that they might 255 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:15,959 be incorrect in their way of 256 00:11:13,379 --> 00:11:18,000 understanding cancer 257 00:11:15,958 --> 00:11:22,259 I mean eventually at somebody your age 258 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:24,120 if you live to be 76 years old 259 00:11:22,259 --> 00:11:26,220 and we are still irradiating and 260 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:29,578 poisoning people to make them healthy 261 00:11:26,220 --> 00:11:32,700 then we have a real problem 262 00:11:29,578 --> 00:11:36,000 I hope it doesn't happen yes 263 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:37,500 well I hope so too you know let 264 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,778 everybody know it's not a genetic 265 00:11:37,500 --> 00:11:42,059 disease so all these crazy things that 266 00:11:39,778 --> 00:11:43,620 we're doing to people why you think are 267 00:11:42,059 --> 00:11:46,979 people excited when they have cancer 268 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:48,959 that they go and say whoa I'm so excited 269 00:11:46,980 --> 00:11:51,060 that I can get now radiation and toxic 270 00:11:48,958 --> 00:11:53,159 poison you know I didn't like the color 271 00:11:51,059 --> 00:11:55,319 of my hair now I'll take this chemical 272 00:11:53,159 --> 00:11:57,838 and all my hair will fall out and I can 273 00:11:55,320 --> 00:12:00,240 put a wig on and I can change my hairdo 274 00:11:57,839 --> 00:12:03,180 uh as the result of the cancer treatment 275 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:06,180 right makes no sense no it sounds like a 276 00:12:03,179 --> 00:12:08,699 bad party at any time anytime you see 277 00:12:06,179 --> 00:12:11,458 some person with a bald head from cancer 278 00:12:08,700 --> 00:12:13,560 treatment that person was treated by 279 00:12:11,458 --> 00:12:15,838 someone who doesn't understand what 280 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,639 cancer is otherwise the head why you 281 00:12:15,839 --> 00:12:19,620 can't why your hair falls out you're 282 00:12:17,639 --> 00:12:22,919 trying to kill cancer cells not make you 283 00:12:19,620 --> 00:12:24,360 go bald right so all of these crazy 284 00:12:22,919 --> 00:12:26,458 things that we do to each other it's 285 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:29,278 just unbelievable unbelievable 286 00:12:26,458 --> 00:12:31,500 so um anyway what are you gonna do 287 00:12:29,278 --> 00:12:34,939 that's the way it is 288 00:12:31,500 --> 00:12:34,940 oh we're gonna change that 289 00:12:35,278 --> 00:12:40,500 so basically 290 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:43,800 the proof is in the pudding and it's 291 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:47,700 about the results that the different 292 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:52,078 treatments get so what are some of the 293 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:55,379 results that you get or got through your 294 00:12:52,078 --> 00:12:57,838 theory and your treatments yeah well 295 00:12:55,379 --> 00:12:59,759 um that's important because people say 296 00:12:57,839 --> 00:13:01,920 well where's the evidence and the 297 00:12:59,759 --> 00:13:04,679 evidence is we are publishing case 298 00:13:01,919 --> 00:13:05,639 reports of individuals who do metabolic 299 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:09,059 therapy 300 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:11,700 and live far longer than they would have 301 00:13:09,059 --> 00:13:15,479 had they done conventional therapy we 302 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:16,860 are rescuing some uh stage four cancer 303 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,860 patients 304 00:13:16,860 --> 00:13:23,399 from their disease uh by giving them 305 00:13:19,860 --> 00:13:25,139 metabolic therapy as opposed to a 306 00:13:23,399 --> 00:13:28,980 radiation chemo or 307 00:13:25,139 --> 00:13:33,120 or immunotherapy so um 308 00:13:28,980 --> 00:13:37,860 there are no clinical trials yet mainly 309 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:39,959 because uh no hospital wants to uh pay 310 00:13:37,860 --> 00:13:42,419 for this how you I mean usually 311 00:13:39,958 --> 00:13:44,219 pharmaceutical company pays for clinical 312 00:13:42,419 --> 00:13:46,139 trial 313 00:13:44,220 --> 00:13:49,800 um no pharmaceutical company has come 314 00:13:46,139 --> 00:13:52,200 forward yet to say we would like to do a 315 00:13:49,799 --> 00:13:54,740 big clinical trial on metabolic therapy 316 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:57,180 to show that we do not need 317 00:13:54,740 --> 00:13:59,759 immunotherapies radiation or toxic 318 00:13:57,179 --> 00:14:01,500 chemicals uh there's no level of 319 00:13:59,759 --> 00:14:02,519 enthusiasm to do something like this 320 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:05,100 right now 321 00:14:02,519 --> 00:14:06,778 so uh we need a business model and I 322 00:14:05,100 --> 00:14:09,180 think the business model will allow us 323 00:14:06,778 --> 00:14:11,399 to move forward also we don't have 324 00:14:09,179 --> 00:14:13,919 trained Physicians and oncologists they 325 00:14:11,399 --> 00:14:15,480 what I said to you uh they can't believe 326 00:14:13,919 --> 00:14:17,519 what I'm saying because they don't 327 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,379 understand the concepts or even if they 328 00:14:17,519 --> 00:14:20,940 do understand the concepts they don't 329 00:14:19,379 --> 00:14:22,320 they don't want to believe it 330 00:14:20,940 --> 00:14:24,420 so 331 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,820 um so we just have to keep doing case 332 00:14:24,419 --> 00:14:28,679 individual case reports and and 333 00:14:26,820 --> 00:14:30,600 Publishing hard scientific evidence 334 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:32,278 supporting the theory and then 335 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,759 eventually things will change just a 336 00:14:32,278 --> 00:14:34,759 matter of time 337 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:42,778 and so you've been able to prolong 338 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:45,000 people's lives that have been uh 339 00:14:42,778 --> 00:14:47,879 diagnosed with cancer right 340 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:50,940 okay I say that again 341 00:14:47,879 --> 00:14:55,320 you have been able to prolong people's 342 00:14:50,940 --> 00:14:59,040 lives through the metabolic therapy 343 00:14:55,320 --> 00:15:02,220 yes this is another important point you 344 00:14:59,039 --> 00:15:06,480 should not consider metabolic therapy as 345 00:15:02,220 --> 00:15:10,920 a cure for cancer metabolic therapy is 346 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:13,980 simply an approach to improve uh overall 347 00:15:10,919 --> 00:15:16,979 survival and quality of life 348 00:15:13,980 --> 00:15:21,360 metabolic therapy will allow cancer 349 00:15:16,980 --> 00:15:24,720 patients to live much much longer with a 350 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:26,579 higher quality of life than the standard 351 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:29,220 treatments that we currently have for 352 00:15:26,578 --> 00:15:32,819 cancer does that mean cure we have no 353 00:15:29,220 --> 00:15:36,060 idea all we can say is is if if 354 00:15:32,820 --> 00:15:38,519 everybody is uh talk about cure well 355 00:15:36,059 --> 00:15:40,138 it's clear that standard of care is not 356 00:15:38,519 --> 00:15:43,379 curing the majority of people with 357 00:15:40,139 --> 00:15:46,680 cancer and if those people do survive 358 00:15:43,379 --> 00:15:49,259 standard of care they often pay a big 359 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:51,719 price for this they have many many 360 00:15:49,259 --> 00:15:54,179 adverse effects in their body 361 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:57,300 they get other cancers they have 362 00:15:54,179 --> 00:16:00,120 hormonal imbalance they have microbiome 363 00:15:57,299 --> 00:16:04,099 imbalances they have Neuropsychiatric 364 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:07,440 problems they pay a very severe price 365 00:16:04,100 --> 00:16:10,500 for surviving standard of care treatment 366 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:14,639 to manage their cancer metabolic therapy 367 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:17,220 does not produce the kinds of any kinds 368 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:19,919 of adverse effects it makes you healthy 369 00:16:17,220 --> 00:16:22,379 it makes you feel better you do not have 370 00:16:19,919 --> 00:16:25,139 to lose hair you don't go bald you don't 371 00:16:22,379 --> 00:16:27,419 have uh nausea vomiting you don't have 372 00:16:25,139 --> 00:16:29,759 these kinds of things so you just simply 373 00:16:27,419 --> 00:16:31,500 kill cancer cells gradually while 374 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:32,278 improving the overall health of your 375 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:36,198 body 376 00:16:32,278 --> 00:16:39,980 so uh metabolic therapy will replace 377 00:16:36,198 --> 00:16:43,198 toxic standard treatments in the future 378 00:16:39,980 --> 00:16:45,000 right now uh people are just unfamiliar 379 00:16:43,198 --> 00:16:48,479 with the concepts 380 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:51,299 and can you describe what the 381 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,879 what you what the people need to do or 382 00:16:51,299 --> 00:16:58,620 like what the patients need to do 383 00:16:53,879 --> 00:17:01,620 to get into ketosis and to take care of 384 00:16:58,620 --> 00:17:03,500 me so when the cancer patient presents 385 00:17:01,620 --> 00:17:06,779 to the clinic 386 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:07,619 uh what we do is we take complete blood 387 00:17:06,779 --> 00:17:11,220 work 388 00:17:07,619 --> 00:17:14,578 we measure all uh parameters in the 389 00:17:11,220 --> 00:17:17,160 blood make sure no bacteria fungus or 390 00:17:14,578 --> 00:17:21,240 parasite infections 391 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:24,259 um we uh transition the patient from 392 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:27,120 high carbohydrate diet to very low 393 00:17:24,259 --> 00:17:31,700 carbohydrate ketogenic diet which can 394 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:34,739 take uh several uh at least 10 days to 395 00:17:31,700 --> 00:17:38,038 15 days 396 00:17:34,740 --> 00:17:40,919 um and then once the patient is in uh 397 00:17:38,038 --> 00:17:43,798 nutritional ketosis by measuring blood 398 00:17:40,919 --> 00:17:46,860 glucose Ketone index 399 00:17:43,798 --> 00:17:49,500 um we then administered to drugs uh to 400 00:17:46,859 --> 00:17:52,558 the patient uh to Target effectively 401 00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:55,319 Target the glutamine and the glucose and 402 00:17:52,558 --> 00:17:58,980 we can use hyperbaric oxygen and we can 403 00:17:55,319 --> 00:18:01,918 use sometimes we use very low dose chemo 404 00:17:58,980 --> 00:18:04,620 um very very low dose chemo which has 405 00:18:01,919 --> 00:18:07,200 almost no side effects whatsoever it's 406 00:18:04,619 --> 00:18:10,678 just the drugs work so much better uh 407 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:13,019 when patient is in therapeutic ketosis 408 00:18:10,679 --> 00:18:14,460 um so it's a gradual degrading of the 409 00:18:13,019 --> 00:18:16,859 tumor over time 410 00:18:14,460 --> 00:18:19,319 uh we're trying to complete the whole 411 00:18:16,859 --> 00:18:22,918 process within within a four to six 412 00:18:19,319 --> 00:18:24,779 month period uh similar to uh what would 413 00:18:22,919 --> 00:18:26,038 do for standard of care 414 00:18:24,779 --> 00:18:28,139 so 415 00:18:26,038 --> 00:18:30,779 um except that now the patient emerges 416 00:18:28,140 --> 00:18:33,600 in a very healthy State uh with cancer 417 00:18:30,779 --> 00:18:37,859 managed now we don't say cancer is gone 418 00:18:33,599 --> 00:18:40,500 we say cancer is managed it may still be 419 00:18:37,859 --> 00:18:43,759 there but not growing or it could be 420 00:18:40,500 --> 00:18:47,400 gone uh you do MRI 421 00:18:43,759 --> 00:18:51,240 the various non-invasive Technologies we 422 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:52,460 don't like to use biopsy uh to assess 423 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,440 the cancer 424 00:18:52,460 --> 00:18:59,460 biopsy has runs the risk of spreading 425 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:02,340 the cancer throughout the body uh we we 426 00:18:59,460 --> 00:19:05,759 do surgery only after the tumor is 427 00:19:02,339 --> 00:19:08,038 shrunken down very small uh without any 428 00:19:05,759 --> 00:19:11,099 inflammation and then the surgeon can 429 00:19:08,038 --> 00:19:12,660 remove the tumor quite effectively we 430 00:19:11,099 --> 00:19:14,038 don't like to use surgery at the 431 00:19:12,660 --> 00:19:17,640 beginning because it could spread the 432 00:19:14,038 --> 00:19:20,460 tumor just like biopsy so we have a very 433 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:23,640 clear uh protocol for the treatment of 434 00:19:20,460 --> 00:19:26,160 cancer that is based on cancer being a 435 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,960 mitochondrial metabolic disease and this 436 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,940 will all be worked out very very 437 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:34,819 thoroughly in the clinic not terribly 438 00:19:29,940 --> 00:19:34,820 complicated but will be highly effective 439 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:41,339 patient presents itself at the clinic 440 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:45,480 and then you do the tests 441 00:19:41,339 --> 00:19:49,439 and then they change what they eat so 442 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:52,140 for those people that don't know how the 443 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:53,160 body would start to get into ketosis 444 00:19:52,140 --> 00:19:57,120 what 445 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:58,798 do people need to eat to be in a 446 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:03,058 ketogenic state 447 00:19:58,798 --> 00:20:06,558 well you have to be under the guidance 448 00:20:03,058 --> 00:20:10,379 of a certified 449 00:20:06,558 --> 00:20:13,019 practitioner whether that is a nurse 450 00:20:10,380 --> 00:20:14,580 nurse a physician's assistant physician 451 00:20:13,019 --> 00:20:17,160 nutritionist 452 00:20:14,579 --> 00:20:19,079 the patient needs to be guided and the 453 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:22,558 patient also needs to monitor their own 454 00:20:19,079 --> 00:20:25,798 blood work and we published the glucose 455 00:20:22,558 --> 00:20:27,918 Ketone index and there's blood meters 456 00:20:25,798 --> 00:20:30,779 now that you can buy on Amazon 457 00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:33,240 that will allow the cancer patient to 458 00:20:30,779 --> 00:20:35,099 monitor their own blood work and then 459 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,980 they would go to the physician and say 460 00:20:35,099 --> 00:20:40,740 okay I am in ketosis and at that time 461 00:20:37,980 --> 00:20:43,380 they would be administered the drugs 462 00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:45,179 uh that work together with the ketosis 463 00:20:43,380 --> 00:20:47,160 to kill the cancer cells 464 00:20:45,179 --> 00:20:51,360 and you know we use glutamine targeting 465 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:54,179 drugs uh we use uh parasite drugs and 466 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:56,699 bendazole benbendazole and it's these 467 00:20:54,179 --> 00:20:59,400 drug cocktails used with nutritional 468 00:20:56,700 --> 00:21:01,440 ketosis that will kill the majority of 469 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:04,019 cancer cells or bring tumors into 470 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:06,120 complete management 471 00:21:04,019 --> 00:21:10,139 and so 472 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:14,279 um so for example if a patient likes to 473 00:21:10,140 --> 00:21:16,880 eat cake is that what if a patient likes 474 00:21:14,279 --> 00:21:20,099 to eat lots of cake and sweets is that 475 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:23,100 helpful cannolis right 476 00:21:20,099 --> 00:21:23,099 cannoli 477 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:30,320 what's cannolis that will not work that 478 00:21:25,740 --> 00:21:30,319 patient will not survive okay so uh 479 00:21:31,919 --> 00:21:38,460 yeah none of that no cannoli no cake no 480 00:21:35,579 --> 00:21:39,720 spoiled none of these kinds of pastries 481 00:21:38,460 --> 00:21:42,179 okay 482 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,100 um you know this all has to be removed 483 00:21:42,179 --> 00:21:47,580 from the diet until the cancer is 484 00:21:44,099 --> 00:21:50,579 managed once the cancer is managed uh it 485 00:21:47,579 --> 00:21:53,339 may be possible to eat a pizza uh but 486 00:21:50,579 --> 00:21:55,859 you know uh until that you have to 487 00:21:53,339 --> 00:21:58,500 recognize that it's your choice it's the 488 00:21:55,859 --> 00:22:00,319 patient's choice do they want to live or 489 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:03,659 do they want to die 490 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:05,399 it's not a it's a it's a choice right I 491 00:22:03,659 --> 00:22:07,440 mean you don't tell the patient you want 492 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,700 to live or you want to die you know it's 493 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,679 just uh 494 00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:12,419 you know I'm not saying it if they want 495 00:22:10,679 --> 00:22:15,360 to eat cake it's cannolis I mean that's 496 00:22:12,419 --> 00:22:17,280 their problem we had an Italian patient 497 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:20,759 we had from yeah 498 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:21,538 where was that maybe it was Milan Milano 499 00:22:20,759 --> 00:22:23,720 um 500 00:22:21,538 --> 00:22:27,058 she was doing very very well with 501 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:31,019 glioblastoma on metabolic therapy and 502 00:22:27,058 --> 00:22:33,359 thought she was uh cured but she was not 503 00:22:31,019 --> 00:22:34,379 cured and then she went back and ate the 504 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,579 cannolis 505 00:22:34,380 --> 00:22:39,480 and the cancer came back and she died so 506 00:22:38,579 --> 00:22:43,158 um 507 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,159 you know no cannolis 508 00:22:44,159 --> 00:22:48,780 and you also have to unless you have a 509 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:52,500 keto cannoli okay I don't know if that's 510 00:22:48,779 --> 00:22:55,019 possible see food food uh people are 511 00:22:52,500 --> 00:22:58,140 working on all these kinds of Keto foods 512 00:22:55,019 --> 00:23:01,038 but I can tell you a keto cannoli is not 513 00:22:58,140 --> 00:23:04,679 as good as the regular canola 514 00:23:01,038 --> 00:23:07,798 and what about carts 515 00:23:04,679 --> 00:23:12,000 are they helpful or detrimental 516 00:23:07,798 --> 00:23:15,538 what what about what parts carbohydrates 517 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:18,779 oh carbs yeah no no carbs are carbs are 518 00:23:15,538 --> 00:23:21,240 driving the tumor to grow faster so uh 519 00:23:18,779 --> 00:23:24,178 you want to restrict carbohydrates the 520 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:26,880 tumor needs carbohydrate to grow now 521 00:23:24,179 --> 00:23:30,120 it's it's really that tumor needs 522 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:33,120 glucose to grow and glucose comes from 523 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:35,399 carbohydrates the worst carbohydrates 524 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:38,099 are the highly glycemic carbohydrates 525 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:40,440 the highly processed sugars complex 526 00:23:38,099 --> 00:23:44,939 carbs 527 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:48,360 um are less provocative but uh still 528 00:23:44,940 --> 00:23:50,580 should be restricted uh significantly so 529 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:53,339 the best so because ketogenic diet is 530 00:23:50,579 --> 00:23:55,619 zero carbohydrate diet extremely low 531 00:23:53,339 --> 00:23:57,899 carbohydrate your body can make carbs 532 00:23:55,619 --> 00:23:59,579 from within so 533 00:23:57,900 --> 00:24:02,340 um the problem is they make very little 534 00:23:59,579 --> 00:24:05,099 carbs from within it's not enough to 535 00:24:02,339 --> 00:24:07,139 drive the tumor so the carbs external 536 00:24:05,099 --> 00:24:09,480 carbs are what's needed to drive the 537 00:24:07,140 --> 00:24:12,000 tumor once you eliminate all external 538 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:15,659 carbohydrates the carbohydrates that the 539 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:18,538 body makes is mostly for the brain 540 00:24:15,659 --> 00:24:20,760 and all other tissues will burn fatty 541 00:24:18,538 --> 00:24:22,558 acids and ketones and and the tumors 542 00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:24,900 cannot burn fatty acids and ketones 543 00:24:22,558 --> 00:24:25,980 regardless of what these other people 544 00:24:24,900 --> 00:24:29,220 might think 545 00:24:25,980 --> 00:24:31,919 so basically the most beneficial things 546 00:24:29,220 --> 00:24:34,019 to eat for the body is animal protein 547 00:24:31,919 --> 00:24:36,780 and fat is that correct 548 00:24:34,019 --> 00:24:39,779 yeah well it could be animal protein or 549 00:24:36,779 --> 00:24:42,558 it could be uh vegetables as long as 550 00:24:39,779 --> 00:24:45,298 whatever you eat is it can't Elevate the 551 00:24:42,558 --> 00:24:47,819 glucose Ketone index if you keep your 552 00:24:45,298 --> 00:24:49,319 glucose Ketone index low then it doesn't 553 00:24:47,819 --> 00:24:51,058 make any difference what you eat as long 554 00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:53,700 as you have a low glucose Ketone index 555 00:24:51,058 --> 00:24:55,379 some people do Mediterranean diet some 556 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:58,919 people do vegan diet some people do 557 00:24:55,380 --> 00:25:03,000 carnivore diet it's just it's almost 558 00:24:58,919 --> 00:25:05,280 like what what did human beings eat 50 559 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,980 000 years ago what was the diet for the 560 00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:10,079 human being 50 000 years ago it wasn't 561 00:25:07,980 --> 00:25:13,620 cannoli there was no cannoli in the 562 00:25:10,079 --> 00:25:19,500 environment at that time right no rice 563 00:25:13,619 --> 00:25:21,538 yeah uh uh no pasta no pasta right so uh 564 00:25:19,500 --> 00:25:24,119 listen it's a hard thing to do if you're 565 00:25:21,538 --> 00:25:25,440 Italian you don't eat pasta It's hard if 566 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,119 you're Chinese and you don't eat rice 567 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,000 it's hard you're Irish you don't eat 568 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:33,839 potatoes it's hard right poor bread what 569 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:37,019 about bread no bread so uh yeah right 570 00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:38,220 take away pasta and bread it's gonna be 571 00:25:37,019 --> 00:25:40,440 hard right 572 00:25:38,220 --> 00:25:43,919 all right so 573 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:46,019 um yeah uh no carbohydrate carbohydrates 574 00:25:43,919 --> 00:25:49,020 must be restricted but it's not forever 575 00:25:46,019 --> 00:25:50,819 it's just until the tumor is managed and 576 00:25:49,019 --> 00:25:54,298 once the tumor is managed then you can 577 00:25:50,819 --> 00:25:56,399 uh go back and and maybe not to the same 578 00:25:54,298 --> 00:25:58,558 level but you can certainly not be 579 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,880 completely restricted some people tell 580 00:25:58,558 --> 00:26:01,558 me 581 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,880 um they would rather die than not eat 582 00:26:01,558 --> 00:26:06,058 pasta and bread 583 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:08,580 so um that's their choice okay then die 584 00:26:06,058 --> 00:26:11,639 you know it's not my it's not my problem 585 00:26:08,579 --> 00:26:13,918 it's your problem you know I I have a 586 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,538 Korean Korean told me he can never live 587 00:26:13,919 --> 00:26:16,500 every day he has to have rice every 588 00:26:15,538 --> 00:26:18,839 single day 589 00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:21,778 and would rather die than not eat rice 590 00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:23,579 so I said okay that's so that's your 591 00:26:21,778 --> 00:26:25,319 choice that's not my choice 592 00:26:23,579 --> 00:26:27,119 so uh 593 00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:29,579 right yeah 594 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:32,038 you gotta want it 595 00:26:29,579 --> 00:26:33,599 yeah you want to survive you got to do 596 00:26:32,038 --> 00:26:35,940 what you need to do to kill the cancer 597 00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:37,379 cells and then once the cancer cells are 598 00:26:35,940 --> 00:26:39,900 managed then you might be able to eat 599 00:26:37,380 --> 00:26:42,440 right rice or pasta but not during the 600 00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:45,140 management period not not that at all 601 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:48,720 okay so 602 00:26:45,140 --> 00:26:50,880 basically the mitochondria needs to be 603 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:55,440 in a healthy State correct 604 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:59,100 yes yes okay a mitochondria need to be 605 00:26:55,440 --> 00:27:03,058 maintained in a healthy State and 606 00:26:59,099 --> 00:27:04,399 um you know uh exercise is excellent to 607 00:27:03,058 --> 00:27:07,918 maintain this 608 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:11,100 uh periodic fasting what they call 609 00:27:07,919 --> 00:27:13,259 intermittent fasting it's hard to do 610 00:27:11,099 --> 00:27:16,259 long-term fasting or zero carbohydrate 611 00:27:13,259 --> 00:27:17,879 diet for a week you can do that there's 612 00:27:16,259 --> 00:27:19,940 a lot of ways to lower your blood sugar 613 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:23,220 and elevate your ketones 614 00:27:19,940 --> 00:27:26,000 to prevent uh cancer and keep your 615 00:27:23,220 --> 00:27:28,980 mitochondria healthy 616 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:31,019 and so 617 00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:34,740 um from what I I've seen from your 618 00:27:31,019 --> 00:27:37,859 research is that basically it's not the 619 00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:40,079 um so the the nucleus of the cell that's 620 00:27:37,859 --> 00:27:43,619 damaged but the mitochondria that's 621 00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:46,798 damaged and even if you put that yeah 622 00:27:43,619 --> 00:27:48,839 the new space is also damaged okay yes 623 00:27:46,798 --> 00:27:50,058 so please yeah but uh you know there's a 624 00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:52,798 lot of mutations 625 00:27:50,058 --> 00:27:54,778 most cancers have mutations in the 626 00:27:52,798 --> 00:27:56,519 nucleus 627 00:27:54,778 --> 00:27:59,099 um but that's not the cause that's the 628 00:27:56,519 --> 00:28:00,418 effect of the damaged mitochondria no 629 00:27:59,099 --> 00:28:03,899 cancer is known that has normal 630 00:28:00,419 --> 00:28:07,140 mitochondria so the mitochondria being 631 00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:09,659 abnormal forces the cell to ferment uh 632 00:28:07,140 --> 00:28:12,179 use energy without oxygen and glucose 633 00:28:09,659 --> 00:28:14,640 and glutamine are are those are those 634 00:28:12,179 --> 00:28:16,140 fuels so the nuclear problems are 635 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,240 Downstream they're not the cause they're 636 00:28:16,140 --> 00:28:19,799 the effects so most people in the field 637 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,440 study the effects not the cause 638 00:28:19,798 --> 00:28:24,418 consequently we make no major advance in 639 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,460 cancer once we understand that it's a 640 00:28:24,419 --> 00:28:28,640 mitochondrial metabolic disease then 641 00:28:26,460 --> 00:28:32,519 you're going to see huge huge 642 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:35,100 advancement in managing the disease 643 00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:37,619 so 644 00:28:35,099 --> 00:28:40,379 um you did studies right where you took 645 00:28:37,619 --> 00:28:43,079 out the mitochondria of one cell and 646 00:28:40,380 --> 00:28:45,720 inserted it into another can you explain 647 00:28:43,079 --> 00:28:47,939 that process a little bit and how you 648 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,679 got different yeah well that was the 649 00:28:47,940 --> 00:28:50,820 nuclear mitochondria transfer 650 00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:53,700 experiments 651 00:28:50,819 --> 00:28:54,899 and and they were done uh over many many 652 00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:57,840 years 653 00:28:54,900 --> 00:29:00,679 uh to ask the simple question 654 00:28:57,839 --> 00:29:06,178 can a cancer 655 00:29:00,679 --> 00:29:08,759 cell uh direct normal development 656 00:29:06,179 --> 00:29:11,640 um that was that they were not testing 657 00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:13,558 the mitochondrial metabolic Theory they 658 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:17,100 were testing whether or not a cancer 659 00:29:13,558 --> 00:29:22,379 cell can direct normal development and 660 00:29:17,099 --> 00:29:27,658 the answer is uh uh yes up until a point 661 00:29:22,380 --> 00:29:32,299 uh when the organism would abort 662 00:29:27,659 --> 00:29:36,120 um so uh frogs with uh kidney cancer 663 00:29:32,298 --> 00:29:38,158 were able to develop into a tadpole uh 664 00:29:36,119 --> 00:29:40,558 from the nucleus of the tumor but not 665 00:29:38,159 --> 00:29:44,220 into a mature frog 666 00:29:40,558 --> 00:29:47,720 um uh mice were produced from melanoma 667 00:29:44,220 --> 00:29:49,919 nucleus uh but not an adult Mouse 668 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,960 they were all aborted in some way 669 00:29:49,919 --> 00:29:55,440 because of the mutations in the nucleus 670 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:58,500 prevented development but they never 671 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:01,980 developed cancer uh from the from the 672 00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:04,798 tumor nucleus so uh what is showing is 673 00:30:01,980 --> 00:30:08,339 that normal mitochondria can suppress 674 00:30:04,798 --> 00:30:12,000 the abnormal cell growth and 675 00:30:08,339 --> 00:30:14,038 um this was done by uh many of the 676 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:16,259 world's best developmental biologists 677 00:30:14,038 --> 00:30:18,538 and it was repeated over and over again 678 00:30:16,259 --> 00:30:20,579 in many many independent studies 679 00:30:18,538 --> 00:30:22,500 strongest evidence to prove that Cancer 680 00:30:20,579 --> 00:30:25,859 Cannot Be a nuclear genetic disease 681 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:29,099 those those findings show that Cancer 682 00:30:25,859 --> 00:30:30,479 Cannot Be A genetic disease people need 683 00:30:29,099 --> 00:30:33,418 to get over this they need to understand 684 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,640 this until they understand if they 685 00:30:33,419 --> 00:30:38,640 cannot understand what I just said then 686 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,919 they'll never understand anything so uh 687 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,899 um but the nuclear transfer experiments 688 00:30:40,919 --> 00:30:45,778 prove that Cancer Cannot Be A genetic 689 00:30:42,898 --> 00:30:48,359 disease and those and other findings as 690 00:30:45,778 --> 00:30:50,278 well that I put out my big papers so 691 00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:52,859 yeah I mean normal mitochondria 692 00:30:50,278 --> 00:30:55,919 suppressed abnormal cell growth abnormal 693 00:30:52,859 --> 00:30:58,139 cell growth comes from uh defective in 694 00:30:55,919 --> 00:31:00,120 the mitochondria mitochondria maintained 695 00:30:58,140 --> 00:31:01,980 the differentiated state of quiescence 696 00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:03,479 when the mitochondria becomes defective 697 00:31:01,980 --> 00:31:06,599 the cell falls into a fermentation 698 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,519 metabolism and loses growth control not 699 00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:11,398 that complicated 700 00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:13,379 not to me it's not complicated to other 701 00:31:11,398 --> 00:31:14,339 people it might appear complicated but 702 00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:16,260 that's because they don't read the 703 00:31:14,339 --> 00:31:17,879 scientific literature if you sit down 704 00:31:16,259 --> 00:31:20,038 and read the papers then you'll 705 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,720 completely understand what I'm saying if 706 00:31:20,038 --> 00:31:24,240 you don't read the papers then maybe 707 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:27,298 it's very complicated so it's just that 708 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:30,839 simple Yeah so basically the healthy 709 00:31:27,298 --> 00:31:34,319 self right has normal respiration oxygen 710 00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:39,240 goes in gets metabolized yes and the 711 00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:42,599 cell uses the oxygen to do its state 712 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:46,019 but in the that's correct but if there 713 00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:48,898 is a problem with respiration the cell 714 00:31:46,019 --> 00:31:52,079 has a second mechanism to continue 715 00:31:48,898 --> 00:31:53,819 living correct 716 00:31:52,079 --> 00:31:56,699 yeah well it continues to get energy 717 00:31:53,819 --> 00:31:59,460 from fermentation not respiration okay 718 00:31:56,700 --> 00:32:02,058 so so that's how the cancer cell grows 719 00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:05,120 dysregulated it's a fermentation 720 00:32:02,058 --> 00:32:08,519 metabolism uh 721 00:32:05,119 --> 00:32:13,439 underlying the dysregulated cell growth 722 00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:16,679 so it's very simple uh if they ferment 723 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:19,019 uh what do what are the fuels to allow 724 00:32:16,679 --> 00:32:24,179 fermentation to take place 725 00:32:19,019 --> 00:32:26,278 glucose and glutamine only two fuels 726 00:32:24,179 --> 00:32:28,380 two 727 00:32:26,278 --> 00:32:30,000 those the cancer cell cannot grow it 728 00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:31,740 cannot it uses those fuels for 729 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,220 fermentation 730 00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:37,740 so uh once you stop the fermentation 731 00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:39,240 fuel the cancer cell cannot grow 732 00:32:37,740 --> 00:32:43,500 it dies 733 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:45,720 and no radiation no chemo yeah and this 734 00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:47,519 is not the the kind of respiration right 735 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,980 where 736 00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:52,679 is 737 00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:55,019 but it's what's transported around in 738 00:32:52,679 --> 00:32:58,620 the body and word 739 00:32:55,019 --> 00:33:02,418 the cell prefers the sugar 740 00:32:58,619 --> 00:33:07,678 but why would the cell 741 00:33:02,419 --> 00:33:10,080 use the the sugar instead of the oxygen 742 00:33:07,679 --> 00:33:12,740 like what kind of conditions need to be 743 00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:15,898 there in the body because the 744 00:33:12,740 --> 00:33:19,019 permutation to start 745 00:33:15,898 --> 00:33:22,139 you know that comes from okay 746 00:33:19,019 --> 00:33:24,120 anything that can chronically damage the 747 00:33:22,140 --> 00:33:26,820 ability of the mitochondria to generate 748 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:29,939 energy through oxygen can potentially 749 00:33:26,819 --> 00:33:32,579 cause cancer okay so some people get 750 00:33:29,940 --> 00:33:35,220 exposed to carcinogens which is a 751 00:33:32,579 --> 00:33:38,220 chemical that causes cancer the chemical 752 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:40,380 causes cancer because it damages 753 00:33:38,220 --> 00:33:44,100 oxidative phosphorylation in the 754 00:33:40,380 --> 00:33:48,240 mitochondria okay some people get cancer 755 00:33:44,099 --> 00:33:50,519 by by virus like papilloma virus now 756 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:53,839 they require everybody to get vaccinated 757 00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:56,339 against papillomavirus 758 00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:59,819 papillomavirus causes uterine cancer 759 00:33:56,339 --> 00:34:01,019 uterine cancer and and other kinds of 760 00:33:59,819 --> 00:34:05,038 cancers 761 00:34:01,019 --> 00:34:07,980 uh the virus enters the cell and damages 762 00:34:05,038 --> 00:34:10,679 oxidative phosphorylation causing the 763 00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:14,338 cell to go and become fermentative and 764 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:19,858 thereby losing uh growth control in the 765 00:34:14,338 --> 00:34:22,739 uterus okay uh in the breast uh milk the 766 00:34:19,858 --> 00:34:26,000 milk duct in the breast can become 767 00:34:22,739 --> 00:34:28,500 blocked leading to chronic inflammation 768 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:33,780 chronic inflammation will damage 769 00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:37,019 mitochondria in some cell or tissue okay 770 00:34:33,780 --> 00:34:39,480 um intermittent hypoxia can damage 771 00:34:37,019 --> 00:34:44,219 respiration in the cell intermittent 772 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:48,240 hypoxia which is uh either a milk duct 773 00:34:44,219 --> 00:34:50,039 occlusion or some other vascular uh 774 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,439 dysfunction leading to chronic 775 00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:55,918 inflammation damaged mitochondrial 776 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,240 respiration uh then you have 777 00:34:55,918 --> 00:35:00,179 um a 778 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:03,000 uh cancer is more common for people than 779 00:35:00,179 --> 00:35:05,219 younger people mainly because the damage 780 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,019 to the mitochondria can occur more 781 00:35:05,219 --> 00:35:07,819 gradually the longer you live on the 782 00:35:07,019 --> 00:35:11,639 planet 783 00:35:07,820 --> 00:35:13,640 type 2 diabetes obesity all of these 784 00:35:11,639 --> 00:35:16,799 conditions increase 785 00:35:13,639 --> 00:35:20,940 inflammation in the body inflammation 786 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:24,480 can damage mitochondria in some cell or 787 00:35:20,940 --> 00:35:28,260 tissue leading to cancer chronic 788 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:30,300 irritation can lead to melanoma can lead 789 00:35:28,260 --> 00:35:31,680 to colon cancer can lead to breast 790 00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:34,800 cancer can lead to all of these things 791 00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:38,519 so and all cancers come from chronic 792 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:40,500 damage to oxidative phosphorylation and 793 00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:42,358 if the cells usually that will kill cell 794 00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:44,460 but if the cell can upregulate 795 00:35:42,358 --> 00:35:46,858 fermentation it can bypass the natural 796 00:35:44,460 --> 00:35:50,519 death pathway and thereby become 797 00:35:46,858 --> 00:35:53,519 dysregulated growth and cancer so we 798 00:35:50,519 --> 00:35:55,940 clearly understand the origin of cancer 799 00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:59,820 how it starts 800 00:35:55,940 --> 00:36:02,400 what it needs to grow and what's more 801 00:35:59,820 --> 00:36:08,039 important how to stop it and manage it 802 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:11,400 we know all of this clearly now so the 803 00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:14,400 problem is nobody believes it and nobody 804 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:18,780 wants to act upon it uh or understand it 805 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:21,539 so consequently millions of people must 806 00:36:18,780 --> 00:36:24,420 die needlessly throughout the world 807 00:36:21,539 --> 00:36:25,440 because people cannot understand what I 808 00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:30,960 just said 809 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:32,760 so basically to summarize 810 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,679 you have to take care of your 811 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:39,780 mitochondria 812 00:36:34,679 --> 00:36:41,879 if you're exactly yes wait wait stop 813 00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:44,220 say that again 814 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:47,940 you must take care of your mitochondria 815 00:36:44,219 --> 00:36:49,259 you must take care of your mitochondria 816 00:36:47,940 --> 00:36:50,900 yes 817 00:36:49,260 --> 00:36:55,800 and exercise 818 00:36:50,900 --> 00:37:00,000 and uh correct eating is the way to best 819 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:01,800 uh do this now of course some people 820 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,039 like to party 821 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:07,500 uh some people like to drink and smoke 822 00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:10,500 and do all these kinds of things that we 823 00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:13,039 all that many people like to do 824 00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:16,380 um as long as you don't do it too much 825 00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:19,739 uh so if people feel like oh I went to a 826 00:37:16,380 --> 00:37:22,380 party and I drank and I smoked uh now I 827 00:37:19,739 --> 00:37:25,159 put myself at risk for cancer what can I 828 00:37:22,380 --> 00:37:28,858 do okay then uh stop eating for two days 829 00:37:25,159 --> 00:37:30,598 uh and drink water only and reconfir and 830 00:37:28,858 --> 00:37:32,400 re re-establish health of your 831 00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:34,920 mitochondria 832 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:38,519 um and you might be able to delay this 833 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:40,858 uh try to avoid obesity try to avoid 834 00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:42,960 type 2 diabetes all these diseases are 835 00:37:40,858 --> 00:37:45,480 all all related to mitochondrial 836 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:48,960 dysfunction so in one way or the other 837 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:51,960 so people now should know what to do I'm 838 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:54,358 not saying everybody should you know do 839 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,400 water only fasting but I'm saying now we 840 00:37:54,358 --> 00:37:59,219 understand what causes cancer we should 841 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:03,059 be able to uh adjust diet and lifestyle 842 00:37:59,219 --> 00:38:06,179 to it to deal with that so the simplest 843 00:38:03,059 --> 00:38:10,380 way to prevent or 844 00:38:06,179 --> 00:38:13,379 manage it let's say would be to 845 00:38:10,380 --> 00:38:17,280 be the ketogenic state 846 00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:20,160 don't think or well and I ideally don't 847 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:23,460 say don't smoke go to bed at a decent 848 00:38:20,159 --> 00:38:25,559 time no no no no no I didn't say no okay 849 00:38:23,460 --> 00:38:28,740 okay please practice don't don't drink 850 00:38:25,559 --> 00:38:30,380 or smoke too much oh too much okay 851 00:38:28,739 --> 00:38:32,879 yeah yeah yeah 852 00:38:30,380 --> 00:38:34,559 I mean guys smoke cigarettes all day 853 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,059 long they put themselves at risk for 854 00:38:34,559 --> 00:38:38,519 lung cancer colon cancer and other 855 00:38:36,059 --> 00:38:42,139 cancers but I you know you smoke one 856 00:38:38,519 --> 00:38:44,579 cigarette a a day or or one cigar a week 857 00:38:42,139 --> 00:38:47,098 uh I I don't think that's gonna kill you 858 00:38:44,579 --> 00:38:48,720 okay so uh or give you it's gonna it's 859 00:38:47,099 --> 00:38:51,300 not going to increase your risk for 860 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:54,659 cancer too much if you want to be pure 861 00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:57,060 and most humans are not pure you do 862 00:38:54,659 --> 00:38:59,279 water only fasting right and most people 863 00:38:57,059 --> 00:39:00,960 don't want to do that so you think 864 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,540 Italians want to go out and just drink 865 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,220 water for a week I don't think so right 866 00:39:03,539 --> 00:39:07,139 who wants the Germans are going to do 867 00:39:05,219 --> 00:39:09,719 that I don't think so either you know 868 00:39:07,139 --> 00:39:12,118 Chinese Nana most people are not going 869 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,559 to do these kinds of things right even 870 00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:16,680 though that's what would prevent cancer 871 00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:17,940 cancer is a disease of diet and 872 00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:19,980 lifestyle 873 00:39:17,940 --> 00:39:24,260 uh primitive people 874 00:39:19,980 --> 00:39:30,838 uh Aboriginal people rarely had cancer 875 00:39:24,260 --> 00:39:35,099 so our ancestors of 50 000 years ago 876 00:39:30,838 --> 00:39:39,719 cancer was extremely rare uh uh even in 877 00:39:35,099 --> 00:39:43,079 even today in Aboriginal populations 878 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:46,199 um cancer is very very rare in Eskimos 879 00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:49,980 and Africans and South American jungle 880 00:39:46,199 --> 00:39:52,799 people Aboriginal people live in a in a 881 00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:56,639 lifestyle similar to 50 000 years ago 882 00:39:52,800 --> 00:40:00,119 so a cancer is extremely rare 883 00:39:56,639 --> 00:40:00,960 um cancer is very rare in in the wolf in 884 00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:04,200 the wolf 885 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:07,079 uh cancer and domestic all domestic dogs 886 00:40:04,199 --> 00:40:09,358 uh came from the wolf 887 00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:10,740 um but cancer is number one killer of 888 00:40:09,358 --> 00:40:13,619 domestic dogs 889 00:40:10,739 --> 00:40:15,479 uh dogs eat the same food we eat I mean 890 00:40:13,619 --> 00:40:18,599 they're eating too much of the wrong 891 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:21,780 food and they get cancer uh wolf eats 892 00:40:18,599 --> 00:40:24,240 natural things uh anybody who lives in 893 00:40:21,780 --> 00:40:27,800 the Paleolithic lifestyle 894 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:30,419 is at much lower risk for cancer 895 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:34,019 Paleolithic how we did it how we lived 896 00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:37,260 uh 50 000 years ago okay 897 00:40:34,019 --> 00:40:39,300 what did you eat what did our ancestors 898 00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:43,800 eat 50 899 00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:46,500 000 years ago they ate animals uh they 900 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:49,920 ate whatever kind of plants and berries 901 00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:52,800 and things like this uh they exercised a 902 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:56,099 lot you had to chase and kill the deer 903 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:58,859 in order to eat the deer okay today we 904 00:40:56,099 --> 00:41:00,599 drive up to McDonald's and they pass the 905 00:40:58,858 --> 00:41:02,819 food through the window and you don't 906 00:41:00,599 --> 00:41:05,460 even have to get out of the car to get 907 00:41:02,820 --> 00:41:09,119 the food right and therefore you get 908 00:41:05,460 --> 00:41:11,039 diabetes obesity and cancer and dementia 909 00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:15,900 and all the kinds of things because of 910 00:41:11,039 --> 00:41:18,358 diet and lifestyle so uh you know but no 911 00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:20,820 one wants to go and kill deers and eat 912 00:41:18,358 --> 00:41:22,210 deer so uh they prefer to have someone 913 00:41:20,820 --> 00:41:24,660 else kill it and feed it to them 914 00:41:22,210 --> 00:41:28,880 [Laughter] 915 00:41:24,659 --> 00:41:32,940 no no rice no pasta 916 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:35,338 no bread you know you didn't have we 917 00:41:32,940 --> 00:41:38,639 didn't have any of that stuff 50 000 918 00:41:35,338 --> 00:41:42,420 years ago you know so the Paleolithic 919 00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:45,960 the Neolithic period I think started 920 00:41:42,420 --> 00:41:48,659 around 10 000 years ago 921 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:52,619 um when we started to cultivate greens 922 00:41:48,659 --> 00:41:55,618 corn rice wheat uh and then we made 923 00:41:52,619 --> 00:41:59,960 bread and then we made pasta and then we 924 00:41:55,619 --> 00:41:59,960 developed rice and then we got cancer 925 00:42:03,139 --> 00:42:09,719 so so think about that it's it's our 926 00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:11,519 society it's industrial society and 927 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,279 civilization and we're not going to go 928 00:42:11,519 --> 00:42:17,519 back to Paleolithic periods so we just 929 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:21,180 have to learn to occasionally modulate 930 00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:25,400 what we eat and continue to get exercise 931 00:42:21,179 --> 00:42:25,399 bring a few ancient things 932 00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:33,180 can you hear me 933 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:36,119 say that say that here like um I said we 934 00:42:33,179 --> 00:42:38,098 should bring a few ancient things to the 935 00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:41,460 now 936 00:42:38,099 --> 00:42:43,800 oh absolutely you know absolutely I mean 937 00:42:41,460 --> 00:42:46,619 it's good to go uh I mean are our 938 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,420 species existed I think from one million 939 00:42:46,619 --> 00:42:51,539 years 940 00:42:47,420 --> 00:42:53,579 uh uh human the human is about one 941 00:42:51,539 --> 00:42:57,659 million some people say six cultures 942 00:42:53,579 --> 00:43:00,119 started maybe 600 000 years ago 943 00:42:57,659 --> 00:43:02,159 um you know but that's not long people 944 00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:06,180 say oh six hundred thousand years a long 945 00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:09,000 time no it's not the Earth is uh uh four 946 00:43:06,179 --> 00:43:11,279 billion years old 3.5 billion years old 947 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,719 so the human species has only been on 948 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,599 the planet for a short period of time 949 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:18,078 right and already we have cancer and 950 00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:18,079 diabetes 951 00:43:19,099 --> 00:43:25,800 obesity right the Obesity when you see 952 00:43:23,099 --> 00:43:29,460 an obese person they are the survivors 953 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:31,800 from the Paleolithic period they that's 954 00:43:29,460 --> 00:43:33,358 evolution in action those people are 955 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,220 living in the wrong environment today 956 00:43:33,358 --> 00:43:37,380 but they were the people that survived 957 00:43:35,219 --> 00:43:39,299 famine and starvation their body could 958 00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:40,800 hold all this energy now they eat 959 00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:43,079 cannolis every day and eat bread with 960 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:46,200 butter on it and they get fat you know 961 00:43:43,079 --> 00:43:48,119 so uh this is and then they get diabetes 962 00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:49,500 and then they get cancer I mean this is 963 00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:52,318 not a cut this is not a complicated 964 00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:54,858 problem yeah some say we are at Peak 965 00:43:52,318 --> 00:43:58,559 civilization right 966 00:43:54,858 --> 00:44:01,679 yes you know but no but we're not going 967 00:43:58,559 --> 00:44:03,059 to go back to the Paleolithic period but 968 00:44:01,679 --> 00:44:06,779 at least you know 969 00:44:03,059 --> 00:44:09,659 that if you go back and okay eat the 970 00:44:06,780 --> 00:44:12,240 yeah what did we eat okay we killed uh 971 00:44:09,659 --> 00:44:14,338 animals human beings killed animals we 972 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,500 did not evolve as a vegetarian species 973 00:44:14,338 --> 00:44:18,239 if we were all vegetarians like the cow 974 00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:21,599 we would not exist today 975 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:23,578 so uh we eat cows right we eat pigs we 976 00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:24,960 eat anything that walks across we'll 977 00:44:23,579 --> 00:44:27,300 even eat each other occasionally 978 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:31,019 cannibals right that was part of our 979 00:44:27,300 --> 00:44:34,019 existence so um but uh yeah meat was 980 00:44:31,019 --> 00:44:35,818 always part of the uh human diet uh 981 00:44:34,019 --> 00:44:38,960 vegetables were always part of the where 982 00:44:35,818 --> 00:44:43,739 what we call omnivores we eat everything 983 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:46,139 uh we can uh eat everything now even to 984 00:44:43,739 --> 00:44:49,500 manage cancer if you are a vegan or 985 00:44:46,139 --> 00:44:51,000 vegetarian or carnivore or whatever uh 986 00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:53,099 pescatel whatever they want to call 987 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,318 these guys that we'd only fish you know 988 00:44:53,099 --> 00:44:57,359 or whatever it is you just measure your 989 00:44:55,318 --> 00:44:59,338 blood sugar and ketones and it tells you 990 00:44:57,358 --> 00:45:00,659 uh what level of Health you're in it 991 00:44:59,338 --> 00:45:02,699 doesn't make any difference what you eat 992 00:45:00,659 --> 00:45:04,920 as long as you can keep a low gki 993 00:45:02,699 --> 00:45:07,318 glucose Ketone index you can you can 994 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,180 reduce risk to cancer you know you don't 995 00:45:07,318 --> 00:45:11,219 do it all the time but occasionally you 996 00:45:09,179 --> 00:45:14,219 might so everybody goes out buys a meter 997 00:45:11,219 --> 00:45:16,739 you know and double checks their blood 998 00:45:14,219 --> 00:45:18,598 sugar uh and people can monitor their 999 00:45:16,739 --> 00:45:19,919 own health you don't need to go to the a 1000 00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:21,660 physician to tell you what's going on 1001 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,460 you just know if you keep blood sugar 1002 00:45:21,659 --> 00:45:24,838 low and ketones elevated occasionally 1003 00:45:23,460 --> 00:45:28,380 you're probably going to be healthier 1004 00:45:24,838 --> 00:45:30,119 than the guy who doesn't do that yeah 1005 00:45:28,380 --> 00:45:32,220 and um 1006 00:45:30,119 --> 00:45:34,079 what do you think are 1007 00:45:32,219 --> 00:45:37,318 well it's kind of obvious that the 1008 00:45:34,079 --> 00:45:40,560 interests that keep this kind of 1009 00:45:37,318 --> 00:45:43,139 knowledge small but like maybe you want 1010 00:45:40,559 --> 00:45:45,318 to come and a little bit of that 1011 00:45:43,139 --> 00:45:48,059 I'll say that again 1012 00:45:45,318 --> 00:45:49,940 the interest of keeping this kind of 1013 00:45:48,059 --> 00:45:53,099 research small 1014 00:45:49,940 --> 00:45:56,400 so the farmer and how it's like this is 1015 00:45:53,099 --> 00:45:58,500 like basically free treatment right so 1016 00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,780 there's nobody that's yeah well no it's 1017 00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:03,599 both pre you're asking by by 1018 00:46:00,780 --> 00:46:07,440 understanding metabolism you can 1019 00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:10,079 Institute uh a lifestyle that will 1020 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,900 reduce cancer risk 1021 00:46:10,079 --> 00:46:15,359 um you know people people can avoid 1022 00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:18,240 those risk factors I think if they're 1023 00:46:15,358 --> 00:46:20,940 aware of them unfortunately sometimes 1024 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:22,799 the poor people find themselves in 1025 00:46:20,940 --> 00:46:25,200 environments where there are more toxins 1026 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,900 in the environment uh which 1027 00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:30,179 unfortunately happens in many countries 1028 00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:33,300 where the poor are always next to power 1029 00:46:30,179 --> 00:46:33,899 plants or some something like that 1030 00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:36,960 um 1031 00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:40,200 that's prevention but I think I think 1032 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,940 that a majority of people uh want to 1033 00:46:40,199 --> 00:46:43,919 know what you can do to manage the 1034 00:46:41,940 --> 00:46:44,818 cancer once you are diagnosed with 1035 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,880 cancer 1036 00:46:44,818 --> 00:46:50,338 and there's where you can improve 1037 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:52,559 survival significantly if you treat the 1038 00:46:50,338 --> 00:46:56,759 disease as a mitochondrial metabolic 1039 00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:59,239 disease the probability of survival with 1040 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:02,579 a higher quality of life 1041 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:04,318 becomes much better uh when you 1042 00:47:02,579 --> 00:47:06,720 understand that cancer is metabolic 1043 00:47:04,318 --> 00:47:09,420 disease and not a genetic disease so I 1044 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,919 think it's an educational not only for 1045 00:47:09,420 --> 00:47:12,180 the pharmaceutical not only for the 1046 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,159 Physicians but also the general 1047 00:47:12,179 --> 00:47:16,679 population as well once people 1048 00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:18,539 understand what cancer is they know how 1049 00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:20,639 to prevent it and if they get it they 1050 00:47:18,539 --> 00:47:24,300 know how to better treat it so it'll be 1051 00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:28,460 a learning process and what I say is is 1052 00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:31,760 going to be the standard in the future 1053 00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:34,139 eventually people will become educated 1054 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:37,200 and will tell the far to tell the 1055 00:47:34,139 --> 00:47:39,139 doctors I I don't want uh chemo I don't 1056 00:47:37,199 --> 00:47:41,818 want radiation I don't want 1057 00:47:39,139 --> 00:47:44,098 immunotherapy what what do you want I 1058 00:47:41,818 --> 00:47:46,679 want metabolic therapy please give me 1059 00:47:44,099 --> 00:47:48,780 metabolic therapy and if the if the 1060 00:47:46,679 --> 00:47:51,598 doctor says well I don't know how to do 1061 00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:53,160 that the cancer patient will say then I 1062 00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:54,480 will find somebody who knows how to do 1063 00:47:53,159 --> 00:47:56,940 that and go to them 1064 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,159 because it will change nobody wants 1065 00:47:56,940 --> 00:48:00,960 radiation and chemo nobody wants that 1066 00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:04,139 they want to get rid of their cancer 1067 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:07,559 without toxicity metabolic therapy can 1068 00:48:04,139 --> 00:48:09,118 do that yes and I think it's possible 1069 00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:12,059 now because 1070 00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:13,019 like knowledge has been through the 1071 00:48:12,059 --> 00:48:15,420 internet 1072 00:48:13,019 --> 00:48:19,139 um democratized right so everybody has 1073 00:48:15,420 --> 00:48:21,960 basically access to everything if they 1074 00:48:19,139 --> 00:48:25,739 search for it sure that it's like you 1075 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:28,079 have to be careful but it's not like 50 1076 00:48:25,739 --> 00:48:30,719 years ago where the only source of 1077 00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:33,800 knowledge would have been the TV or 1078 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:37,078 actually your doctor or some kind of 1079 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:38,519 professional right so I think it's gonna 1080 00:48:37,079 --> 00:48:43,619 be 1081 00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:47,460 from The Roots up the the the thing the 1082 00:48:43,619 --> 00:48:49,619 person looking for it and then 1083 00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:52,199 in through that way it will become 1084 00:48:49,619 --> 00:48:54,300 common knowledge probably 1085 00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:55,799 yeah I I agree 1086 00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:59,940 I mean the internet 1087 00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,960 and media have a very powerful effect 1088 00:48:59,940 --> 00:49:03,119 um 1089 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,619 you know they can get the word out but 1090 00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:07,200 you also have to be careful because 1091 00:49:04,619 --> 00:49:10,559 there's a lot of things that 1092 00:49:07,199 --> 00:49:12,358 people follow on the internet that are 1093 00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:14,400 incorrect 1094 00:49:12,358 --> 00:49:15,659 um and are not supported by hard 1095 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,800 scientific 1096 00:49:15,659 --> 00:49:23,818 work our work we publish peer-reviewed 1097 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:27,780 scientific papers uh establishing the 1098 00:49:23,818 --> 00:49:29,338 concepts and and pre-clinical research 1099 00:49:27,780 --> 00:49:32,700 showing 1100 00:49:29,338 --> 00:49:35,279 what what is correct and then you take 1101 00:49:32,699 --> 00:49:37,500 that if you understand cancer 1102 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:40,079 you should be able to develop a therapy 1103 00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:42,239 to manage the disease effectively and we 1104 00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:45,000 are doing that more and more cancer 1105 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:48,539 patients with these Advanced cancers are 1106 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:50,338 surviving better uh why because we know 1107 00:49:48,539 --> 00:49:52,679 we know what the nature of the disease 1108 00:49:50,338 --> 00:49:55,500 is the problem is 1109 00:49:52,679 --> 00:50:00,118 um the big the big hospitals and 1110 00:49:55,500 --> 00:50:05,639 academic research centers uh do not uh 1111 00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:07,380 um yet uh accept accept this they still 1112 00:50:05,639 --> 00:50:09,358 think cancer is a genetic disease 1113 00:50:07,380 --> 00:50:11,220 because they were indoctrinated 1114 00:50:09,358 --> 00:50:13,199 brainwashed to believe this kind of 1115 00:50:11,219 --> 00:50:14,159 thing they have never heard of the 1116 00:50:13,199 --> 00:50:16,679 alternative 1117 00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:18,539 so they think oh no I can't be right 1118 00:50:16,679 --> 00:50:21,480 because we know cancer is a genetic 1119 00:50:18,539 --> 00:50:23,400 disease no no no no they're incorrect 1120 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,659 it's not a genetic disease and then some 1121 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,119 people say well I can never accept 1122 00:50:24,659 --> 00:50:30,000 cancer being anything other than genetic 1123 00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:32,818 disease so therefore you you have these 1124 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:35,338 forces that prevent metabolic therapy 1125 00:50:32,818 --> 00:50:37,800 from being becoming the standard of care 1126 00:50:35,338 --> 00:50:40,920 and then uh you're right about you know 1127 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:43,318 uh how do you earn money if you are a 1128 00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:46,139 physician you know telling people don't 1129 00:50:43,318 --> 00:50:48,539 eat carbohydrate Foods you know it's 1130 00:50:46,139 --> 00:50:51,539 like uh how if you're a radiation 1131 00:50:48,539 --> 00:50:54,058 oncologist uh why would you want to 1132 00:50:51,539 --> 00:50:55,920 irradiate somebody when they don't need 1133 00:50:54,059 --> 00:50:57,720 to be irradiated 1134 00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,000 um how do you justify irradiating 1135 00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,459 somebody that I can I can get rid of the 1136 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,559 tumor by restricting glucose and 1137 00:51:02,460 --> 00:51:06,420 glutamine and then the tumor disappears 1138 00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:08,579 or becomes very indolent why should I go 1139 00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:11,159 for radiation therapy doesn't make any 1140 00:51:08,579 --> 00:51:13,740 sense you know why should I take a toxic 1141 00:51:11,159 --> 00:51:15,420 chemical to kill my tumor when I can 1142 00:51:13,739 --> 00:51:18,358 just take away glucose and glutamine to 1143 00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:20,880 kill the tumor so uh um you know it's 1144 00:51:18,358 --> 00:51:23,159 without causing toxicity or going bald 1145 00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,780 or any of those kinds of things so this 1146 00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:27,598 is going to be a very difficult thing 1147 00:51:24,780 --> 00:51:29,460 for many people to accept but hey you 1148 00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:31,440 want to manage cancer you do it you do 1149 00:51:29,460 --> 00:51:33,720 it what we're saying if not then you go 1150 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:36,000 and take chemo and radiation people 1151 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,799 we're not stopping anybody who wants to 1152 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,358 have radiation and chemo I'm not 1153 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,280 stopping them I'm not telling them go 1154 00:51:39,358 --> 00:51:43,139 and do radiation to chemo if they want 1155 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,420 to do radiation and chemo that's their 1156 00:51:43,139 --> 00:51:48,118 that's their choice the doctor says oh 1157 00:51:45,420 --> 00:51:50,400 yes you must do radiation and chemo and 1158 00:51:48,119 --> 00:51:52,800 uh he says that uh well what about other 1159 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:55,200 things well radiation and chemo are the 1160 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:58,200 only things that I know about so until 1161 00:51:55,199 --> 00:51:59,939 he knows does he know the Warburg theory 1162 00:51:58,199 --> 00:52:01,919 of cancer does the physician understand 1163 00:51:59,940 --> 00:52:03,659 that glucose and glutamine are the only 1164 00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,760 fuels driving the cancer that he's 1165 00:52:03,659 --> 00:52:07,679 trying to manage if not then go find 1166 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,240 somebody else that does understand this 1167 00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:11,098 you know that the field is going to have 1168 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,959 to change quickly otherwise we're 1169 00:52:11,099 --> 00:52:15,420 killing all these poor people are dying 1170 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:18,900 yes unfortunately 1171 00:52:15,420 --> 00:52:22,858 um can you talk a little bit about some 1172 00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:25,079 of like your patients transformations 1173 00:52:22,858 --> 00:52:27,900 that you've seen so that people yeah 1174 00:52:25,079 --> 00:52:30,359 about what's possible uh there's there's 1175 00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:31,800 a new film coming out uh called the 1176 00:52:30,358 --> 00:52:34,980 cancer Revolution 1177 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:38,280 it's a documentary film and they 1178 00:52:34,980 --> 00:52:41,519 interview many many uh stage four cancer 1179 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:42,540 patients who who uh what they call 1180 00:52:41,519 --> 00:52:45,539 terminal 1181 00:52:42,539 --> 00:52:47,699 uh who are no longer terminal 1182 00:52:45,539 --> 00:52:48,659 um so there's uh they relay their 1183 00:52:47,699 --> 00:52:51,239 stories 1184 00:52:48,659 --> 00:52:53,639 uh Pablo Kelly from England 1185 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:56,699 uh he's on the web now telling everybody 1186 00:52:53,639 --> 00:52:59,098 how he survived pleoplastoma 1187 00:52:56,699 --> 00:53:02,219 um with metabolic therapy so more and 1188 00:52:59,099 --> 00:53:04,500 more people uh who should be dead 1189 00:53:02,219 --> 00:53:07,679 uh are telling others what they did to 1190 00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:08,940 survive and um so those guys become 1191 00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:12,838 advocates 1192 00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:15,780 uh to the metabolic therapy and 1193 00:53:12,838 --> 00:53:17,779 um you know uh more and more of these 1194 00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:20,640 people are appearing on the social media 1195 00:53:17,780 --> 00:53:23,460 so uh I think uh and that's another 1196 00:53:20,639 --> 00:53:27,239 motivational Factor they want to be they 1197 00:53:23,460 --> 00:53:30,838 can tell others what they did to survive 1198 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:34,879 and so even with stage four cancer 1199 00:53:30,838 --> 00:53:34,880 There's Hope basically 1200 00:53:35,179 --> 00:53:40,078 yeah you know they always say terminal 1201 00:53:38,219 --> 00:53:42,239 cancer 1202 00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:44,700 um people say oh I'm diagnosed with 1203 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,919 terminal cancer who says that terminal 1204 00:53:44,699 --> 00:53:48,598 cancer the guy who's treating you with 1205 00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,519 radiation and chemo is telling you it's 1206 00:53:48,599 --> 00:53:51,780 a terminal cancer because you know we 1207 00:53:50,519 --> 00:53:53,519 did everything to the patient the 1208 00:53:51,780 --> 00:53:55,079 Cancer's still there yeah you did 1209 00:53:53,519 --> 00:53:56,759 everything except Target glucose and 1210 00:53:55,079 --> 00:53:58,318 glutamine you know once you start 1211 00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:01,020 targeting glucose and glutamine and 1212 00:53:58,318 --> 00:54:03,980 transitioning the body to ketosis you'll 1213 00:54:01,019 --> 00:54:06,599 do much better now and that doesn't mean 1214 00:54:03,980 --> 00:54:07,440 unfortunately people so many people come 1215 00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:10,440 to me 1216 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:12,659 after chemo and radiation and immuno 1217 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,400 none of that stuff works and then the 1218 00:54:12,659 --> 00:54:16,558 physician says oh there's nothing more 1219 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,358 we can do uh well you did almost 1220 00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:20,519 everything to kill the poor patient and 1221 00:54:18,358 --> 00:54:22,500 and now now you're telling me you can't 1222 00:54:20,519 --> 00:54:25,380 do it anymore so 1223 00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:27,059 um you know uh not and then the patient 1224 00:54:25,380 --> 00:54:30,119 tries metabolic therapy and it doesn't 1225 00:54:27,059 --> 00:54:33,480 work only because the body has been so 1226 00:54:30,119 --> 00:54:35,700 beat up and destroyed by toxic poisons 1227 00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:38,519 and radiation that the body can no 1228 00:54:35,699 --> 00:54:41,399 longer rally in a healthy way to defeat 1229 00:54:38,519 --> 00:54:43,199 the cancer so uh usually most of the 1230 00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,460 people who start metabolic therapy up 1231 00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:46,139 front 1232 00:54:44,460 --> 00:54:48,539 um really do well and they never need 1233 00:54:46,139 --> 00:54:52,139 radiation or chemo and if they do chemo 1234 00:54:48,539 --> 00:54:54,179 uh it's it's very low dose for a much 1235 00:54:52,139 --> 00:54:55,799 shorter period of time with minimal if 1236 00:54:54,179 --> 00:54:59,219 any toxicity 1237 00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:01,140 that's that's good to hear 1238 00:54:59,219 --> 00:55:03,659 so 1239 00:55:01,139 --> 00:55:07,879 basically 1240 00:55:03,659 --> 00:55:07,879 cut out the sugar right 1241 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:13,740 well I mean it depends it 1242 00:55:11,099 --> 00:55:15,960 uh if you don't have cancer 1243 00:55:13,739 --> 00:55:18,598 uh why you want to cut out sugar sugar 1244 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:21,240 does not cause cancer 1245 00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:22,440 sugar feeds cancer if you have the 1246 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:24,838 cancer 1247 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:30,119 sugar will feed it sugar doesn't cause 1248 00:55:24,838 --> 00:55:33,719 cancer if you eat too much carbohydrates 1249 00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:36,900 and get inflammation in the body like 1250 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:39,358 obesity and type 2 diabetes that is a 1251 00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:43,318 risk factor for causing cancer 1252 00:55:39,358 --> 00:55:46,500 so uh Sugar by itself is not a 1253 00:55:43,318 --> 00:55:50,358 carcinogen but too much sugar in the 1254 00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:54,659 body can cause inflammation inflammation 1255 00:55:50,358 --> 00:55:56,880 can cause cancer okay so uh again it's 1256 00:55:54,659 --> 00:55:59,039 all one of degree so I'm not telling 1257 00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:02,039 people don't go out and eat the cannoli 1258 00:55:59,039 --> 00:56:05,000 you know or eat stop eating pizza or you 1259 00:56:02,039 --> 00:56:07,380 know whatever else potatoes and pasta no 1260 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,358 uh I'm I'm saying if you don't have 1261 00:56:07,380 --> 00:56:11,818 cancer you can eat the cannoli and the 1262 00:56:09,358 --> 00:56:14,940 pizza and the pasta or the potato or the 1263 00:56:11,818 --> 00:56:16,920 bread but but uh if you have cancer you 1264 00:56:14,940 --> 00:56:18,780 would not eat those kinds of things and 1265 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,880 would you 1266 00:56:18,780 --> 00:56:23,460 um 1267 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:25,858 recommend going more on a ketogenic diet 1268 00:56:23,460 --> 00:56:29,519 as a prevention or only 1269 00:56:25,858 --> 00:56:31,318 as a treatment basically 1270 00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:34,259 no no you actually there's a lot of 1271 00:56:31,318 --> 00:56:36,480 people who do that uh some people decide 1272 00:56:34,260 --> 00:56:38,520 to go on a ketogenic diet for say three 1273 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:41,579 or four weeks 1274 00:56:38,519 --> 00:56:44,400 um they do that to get healthy uh they 1275 00:56:41,579 --> 00:56:48,180 get they lose weight uh they get 1276 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:50,039 healthier uh and then they feel good and 1277 00:56:48,179 --> 00:56:52,259 some people are always on that kind of a 1278 00:56:50,039 --> 00:56:54,480 diet I have friends that are always in 1279 00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:57,359 some sort of ketosis 1280 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:59,039 um you know they don't you know I like 1281 00:56:57,358 --> 00:57:02,598 to drink whiskey every now and then and 1282 00:56:59,039 --> 00:57:05,338 eat bread you know uh I I would have to 1283 00:57:02,599 --> 00:57:07,980 intermittent fasting is easier than 1284 00:57:05,338 --> 00:57:10,380 going on these long-term ketogenic diets 1285 00:57:07,980 --> 00:57:13,619 and things like this you know so yeah 1286 00:57:10,380 --> 00:57:15,838 beer I mean I like beer uh but if I had 1287 00:57:13,619 --> 00:57:18,599 cancer I could not do it 1288 00:57:15,838 --> 00:57:20,699 so but I don't have cancer so I'll drink 1289 00:57:18,599 --> 00:57:23,700 beer and if I ever get cancer I don't 1290 00:57:20,699 --> 00:57:26,759 drink beer so um you do and you try to 1291 00:57:23,699 --> 00:57:28,259 reduce what you the risk factors you try 1292 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:31,020 to avoid respect 1293 00:57:28,260 --> 00:57:32,099 don't forget cancer is a disease of the 1294 00:57:31,019 --> 00:57:34,500 lifestyle 1295 00:57:32,099 --> 00:57:36,720 and uh it's a part of being in a 1296 00:57:34,500 --> 00:57:39,119 civilized society the risk for cancer 1297 00:57:36,719 --> 00:57:42,058 and no one wants to go back and to live 1298 00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:44,460 in a primitive Paleolithic period nobody 1299 00:57:42,059 --> 00:57:47,819 wants to do that so we have to just know 1300 00:57:44,460 --> 00:57:49,920 things how do I reduce risk and if I get 1301 00:57:47,818 --> 00:57:52,259 cancer what can I do to manage the 1302 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:55,440 disease without toxicity this is the 1303 00:57:52,260 --> 00:57:59,300 knowledge that we are uh showing what to 1304 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,300 do and how to do it I think this 1305 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:10,380 is maybe contact with you or with your 1306 00:58:07,559 --> 00:58:13,140 papers is there I heard this somewhere 1307 00:58:10,380 --> 00:58:15,000 where they can donate to support the 1308 00:58:13,139 --> 00:58:18,299 research 1309 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:20,880 our our major donation site is the 1310 00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:24,599 foundation for cancer uh metabolic 1311 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:26,880 therapy which is Travis christopherson's 1312 00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:30,780 Foundation 1313 00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:34,740 um so uh and I mentioned this on the in 1314 00:58:30,780 --> 00:58:38,099 my in my um a lot of people contact me 1315 00:58:34,739 --> 00:58:40,858 uh and I give them a kit of information 1316 00:58:38,099 --> 00:58:43,500 uh I can't tell people what to do and 1317 00:58:40,858 --> 00:58:45,179 what not to do I'm not a physician I 1318 00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:46,318 cannot practice I do not practice 1319 00:58:45,179 --> 00:58:49,379 medicine 1320 00:58:46,318 --> 00:58:50,460 I just give people information it's the 1321 00:58:49,380 --> 00:58:52,440 information 1322 00:58:50,460 --> 00:58:54,960 that gives them the knowledge that gives 1323 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:57,920 them the power to understand what they 1324 00:58:54,960 --> 00:59:01,318 what they should do or what they can do 1325 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:04,920 and uh in that information kit uh 1326 00:59:01,318 --> 00:59:07,079 there's a a donation site people donate 1327 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:10,380 uh whatever they feel they would like to 1328 00:59:07,079 --> 00:59:13,380 donate to our research uh through Travis 1329 00:59:10,380 --> 00:59:16,500 christopherson's foundation for uh 1330 00:59:13,380 --> 00:59:20,240 cancer metabolic therapy 1331 00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:23,699 um and that's where we get most of our 1332 00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:26,578 research support from philanthropy and 1333 00:59:23,699 --> 00:59:31,199 people who who use metabolic therapy and 1334 00:59:26,579 --> 00:59:33,720 survive and do very well uh they uh they 1335 00:59:31,199 --> 00:59:36,598 donate to our website or to donate to 1336 00:59:33,719 --> 00:59:38,699 the foundation which is only right why 1337 00:59:36,599 --> 00:59:41,099 you accept money from anybody 1338 00:59:38,699 --> 00:59:43,679 uh when they don't survive the treatment 1339 00:59:41,099 --> 00:59:46,200 that you give them you know the the 1340 00:59:43,679 --> 00:59:49,858 patients go to the hospitals they pay 1341 00:59:46,199 --> 00:59:52,318 large amounts of money uh to be treated 1342 00:59:49,858 --> 00:59:55,679 and then they don't survive they they 1343 00:59:52,318 --> 00:59:57,420 should only be uh money should only be 1344 00:59:55,679 --> 01:00:00,598 taken if the people if the patient 1345 00:59:57,420 --> 01:00:02,159 survives the doctor should give the 1346 01:00:00,599 --> 01:00:04,200 treatment to the patient if the patient 1347 01:00:02,159 --> 01:00:05,940 survives then the patient pays for the 1348 01:00:04,199 --> 01:00:07,798 treatment if the patient does not 1349 01:00:05,940 --> 01:00:09,720 survive he should not have to pay for 1350 01:00:07,798 --> 01:00:12,179 the cancer treatment you should only pay 1351 01:00:09,719 --> 01:00:14,279 for what works you know and this is the 1352 01:00:12,179 --> 01:00:16,259 way I think the business model is if you 1353 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:18,420 survive cancer every year you survive 1354 01:00:16,260 --> 01:00:20,819 cancer you're the patient the doctor 1355 01:00:18,420 --> 01:00:24,480 should get some some fun for that right 1356 01:00:20,818 --> 01:00:26,880 if I if I live five years okay then he 1357 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:29,579 gets the full amount if he dies within 1358 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:32,818 one year he gets nothing or very little 1359 01:00:29,579 --> 01:00:35,460 right so uh this is a so you make 1360 01:00:32,818 --> 01:00:37,440 donations to support the research only 1361 01:00:35,460 --> 01:00:40,019 if the information that provide that you 1362 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:42,000 get has helped you if the information 1363 01:00:40,019 --> 01:00:44,159 doesn't help you why you contribute to 1364 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:46,440 somebody's foundation so it's very 1365 01:00:44,159 --> 01:00:48,899 logical if the information helps 1366 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,700 contribute to the foundation if the 1367 01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:52,318 information doesn't help don't 1368 01:00:50,699 --> 01:00:56,239 contribute to the foundation 1369 01:00:52,318 --> 01:00:56,239 so uh that's the way I look at it 1370 01:00:58,380 --> 01:01:03,660 why pay for something if it doesn't work 1371 01:01:02,338 --> 01:01:05,578 all those 1372 01:01:03,659 --> 01:01:07,318 horrible treatments that people go 1373 01:01:05,579 --> 01:01:09,359 through makes sense everything I'm 1374 01:01:07,318 --> 01:01:12,019 saying makes a lot of very simple at the 1375 01:01:09,358 --> 01:01:12,019 end of the day right 1376 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,700 yeah well sometimes people don't want 1377 01:01:16,199 --> 01:01:19,919 things to be simple they love 1378 01:01:17,699 --> 01:01:20,939 complicated it makes them feel good that 1379 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,700 they can understand something 1380 01:01:20,940 --> 01:01:25,740 complicated I I don't know it's human 1381 01:01:23,699 --> 01:01:28,199 nature it's basically human nature we're 1382 01:01:25,739 --> 01:01:30,598 all the same everybody's the same we're 1383 01:01:28,199 --> 01:01:32,098 all humans we all think the same way you 1384 01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:33,420 know we all have very the only thing 1385 01:01:32,099 --> 01:01:35,760 that makes us different is culture 1386 01:01:33,420 --> 01:01:38,220 culture and religion changes the way our 1387 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,839 brains think but basically we're all the 1388 01:01:38,219 --> 01:01:41,639 same 1389 01:01:39,838 --> 01:01:45,179 hahaha 1390 01:01:41,639 --> 01:01:45,179 right yeah 1391 01:01:45,619 --> 01:01:50,940 your brain can be worked in different 1392 01:01:47,639 --> 01:01:53,639 ways anyway I will let you go I have a 1393 01:01:50,940 --> 01:01:56,338 meeting to go to thank you so much for 1394 01:01:53,639 --> 01:01:59,159 coming on but uh I hope I hope this 1395 01:01:56,338 --> 01:02:01,739 helped your podcast and uh gets 1396 01:01:59,159 --> 01:02:04,098 information thank you so much I hope 1397 01:02:01,739 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