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a few months back I put out a video on
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joinery techniques and mentioned how one
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should not use pocket holes to attach a
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table top to an apron because of wood
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movement and lots of people ask so what
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should we do just like everything when
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it comes to woodworking there is more
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than one answer to this and it all just
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depends on your skill level budget and
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how much time you're willing to put into
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the project but there's an option for
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everyone let's quickly discuss the
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problem first boards will expand and
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contract width-wise seasonally when the
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humidity in the air changes if you
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simply screw a tabletop to an apron the
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board will not be able to move with the
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seasons and it will crack so the first
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simplest solution is to attach the apron
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with oversized holes I like to use these
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pan head screws for something like this
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because of the broad washer style heads
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there's more surface area holding the
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screw in place and it won't compress the
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wood there's a few things to pay
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attention to here you want the screw to
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have enough material to bite into but
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you don't want to drill through your top
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so first drill a hole that's larger than
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the pan head screw with a forstner bit
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to the perfect depth you need then using
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the point that the forstner bit left
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over drill a hole that's a larger than
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the shank of the screw all the way
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through I typically will do a test hole
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put the screw in and line it up in the
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material to make sure everything is
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looking good before actually drilling
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into my work pieces you can see that
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this allows for the wood to expand and
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contract with the seasons because the
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screw can wiggle around in this hole for
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most cases just using screws into the
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wood will be fine but if you know the
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piece will constantly be taken apart and
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reassembled you can do the same concept
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with threaded inserts the method is
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exactly the same only with these there's
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an added step of installing the inserts
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by marking them out drilling the correct
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size hole then screwing them in you can
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see when I Loosely tighten a bolt into
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the insert the apron is still wiggling
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around slightly because of the oversized
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hole depending on your project you may
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consider making one hole the exact size
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of your screws so you can actually
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control where the top will move like for
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a tabletop you want the movement to be
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equal on both sides of the table so you
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can drill a smaller exact size hole in
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the center of the shorter stretchers and
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that acts as the Anchor Point which will
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force the boards to move in and out from
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the center point you can also opt to
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move the Anchor Point to one of the ends
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like if you know a project will live
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against a wall like a nightstand or if
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the project has some sort of feature on
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the front that you really want to remain
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flush at all times it really just
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depends on the project the problem with
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this method is it's really only easy if
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your stretchers are quite narrow so if
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you're using wider material for your
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stretchers you have to drill holes
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pretty deep with a forstner bit which
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just isn't that fun to do so moving on
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to Method number two adding additional
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slotted stretchers this is the same
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basic concept as method number one only
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with these you have to Mill up more
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material to make extra stretchers that
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run across your table top these should
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be at least three quarter inches thick
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and the same concept as before drill one
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anchor hole that's in the center of the
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table and then make oversized holes or
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slots on both sides of the anchor hole
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these slots can be made in a few ways
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you can drill two holes right next to
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each other then use a chisel to clear
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out the pointy bits in between or you
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can do a plunge cut at the router table
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or you can use an edge guide with a trim
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router always options also lots of
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options to connect these stretchers to
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your main table frame you can use dowels
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biscuits dominoes pocket holes mortise
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and Tenon you get the idea no matter how
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you connect them the concept is the same
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the tabletop up is locked down with
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screws through the holes drilled out and
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the center hole acts as the Anchor Point
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and the slots on both sides of it allow
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the screws to move side to side when the
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table top expands and contracts just
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like with method number one if you're
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worried about stripping the holes due to
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constantly disassembling and
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reassembling the pieces you can do the
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same concept with threaded inserts as I
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methods that require purchasing extra
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pieces of Hardware let's start with
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z-clips these are metal brackets that
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form a z-shape hence the name and the
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only caveat when using the z-clips is
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that you have to think ahead because the
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easiest way to prepare for their
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installation is to make a Groove at the
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table saw before your table is assembled
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simply use your actual z-clip as a guide
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for setting up your fence you just want
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to make sure your blade is in line with
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the bottom part of the Z then you can
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use the clip again as a guide for the
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blade height and make the cut obviously
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do this on a scrap piece first and make
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any adjustments if you need to the clip
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should be able to go into the groove
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fully and when set down on the tabletop
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the bottom should sit flush on the
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surface to install them put them in the
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grooves then pull them out of the
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grooves ever so slightly like an eighth
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or so and use an awl to Mark out the
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center of the holes then lock the Clips
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in place with screws you can see here
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how this works the table top is held in
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place because the Z shape of the clips
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this end is just floating in here it's
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not being held in playset At All by
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anything but pressure on the groove from
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the clip being screwed to the top when
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you look at a mock-up of how these would
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be installed on a table the clips along
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the long grain will remain in the same
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position along the groove but they will
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be able to move in and out of the groove
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and that's why I pulled it out about an
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eighth so there's room for it to go in
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the clips going across the grain will
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remain the same depth into the groove
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but they will be able to move along the
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groove if need be if you want to use
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z-clips and you forgot to make the
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grooves before or assembling your table
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all is not lost if you have a biscuit
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joiner you can set that up to cut slots
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in your aprons at the correct height or
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you can use a slot cutting bit in your
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router or use a router with an edge
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guide and a scrape it or if you don't
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have any of those you can use figure
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eight Fasteners that don't require any
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special tools and can be applied after
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assembly
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but there's a catch when using these
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I'll explain later after I show how to
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install them line them up on your table
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apron so most of the round portion is on
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the wood Mark out the center of the hole
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and drill them out with a forstner bit
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just until it's ever so slightly below
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the wood just keep Drilling and checking
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and Drilling and checking the whole
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point of these Fasteners is that they
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can rotate with seasonal changes so you
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have to notch out these little points
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with a chisel so the Fastener can rotate
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freely Now using the point that the
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forstner bit left over pre-drill a hole
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that is then used to lock the Fastener
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in place or the screw lastly you would
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put your tabletop on top and lock it in
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place does anyone see the problem here
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yet so if you install them on the short
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stretchers that are going across the
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grain you have no problem because the
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wood is moving along the width so these
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Fasteners are rotating along with the
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movement now if you put them on the long
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stretchers that are running with the
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grain the wood is moving in and out from
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the apron and that's not how these are
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designed to work these only pivot side
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to side not back and forth so you have
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options here depending on your project
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you can add additional short stretchers
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and only attach the Fasteners on those
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and that totally works or you can still
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install them on the long stretchers but
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make sure you install them on a slight
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angle you can see by angling the
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Fasteners on insulation I can push this
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board from side to side which is an
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exaggerated example of what will happen
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with wood movement I have done this on a
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few desks and tables in the past with
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zero issues at all moving on to
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something I have never used before but
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found when I was ordering all this
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hardware and just thought it looked
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interesting
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on Amazon these were just called wood
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table top expansion brackets I thought
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they looked cool because it looks like
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you don't have to prepare any slots or
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holes to use them but they're also more
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expensive than the z-clips and the
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figure eight Fasteners this eight pack
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was about twelve dollars and it didn't
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come with screws compare that to the
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figure eight Fasteners at Woodcraft
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they're 450 for a pack of 10 which
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includes the screws and the z-clips
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elbow craft are also 450 for a pack of
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eight that also includes the screws I've
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never used these before so I can attest
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to their longevity or quality but they
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intrigue me because of how the slots
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were laid out one side has the slot
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running back and forth and the other
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side the slot is running from side to
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side I'm just going to assume how you
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would install these on the short
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stretchers I would put the slots running
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side to side facing down towards the
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table top this would enable the top to
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move width-wise along the grain for the
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long stretchers running with the grain I
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would have flipped them over and install
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them with the slot running back and
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forth down towards the table top this
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would allow the top to move in and out
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towards the apron or maybe just install
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them all facing the same direction if
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you flip these brackets on the short
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stretchers the screw can still move in
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the elongated hole that's on the
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stretcher whatever I think that both
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could work but these definitely seem
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like the easiest of the bunch because
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there's no prep involved only drawback I
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guess is the price all of these Hardware
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options are totally fine and acceptable
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but if you want to impress your friends
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with your woodworking skills you can
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make these tabletop buttons these work
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very similarly to the z-clips the button
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has a tongue that fits into a mortise in
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the apron then a screw is inserted and a
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cam Dr Sun coal connecting it to the
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table top the button can move side to
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side because the mortise or the slot is
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wider than the tongue and the button can
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move back and forth because there's only
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pressure holding it in place making
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these buttons is pretty easy the most
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important thing to take into account is
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grain direction if the grain is running
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across the button it will defeat the
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purpose of using them as a hold down
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because they can easily snap along the
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grain so you have to make them so the
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grain is running along the button and
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now it will be super strong all right
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let's make some buttons you can make
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them one at a time using a small scrap
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like this cut a rabbet or Notch at the
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end creating the tongue then cut to size
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repeat for the next one that seems
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pretty tedious to me though so there are
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a few ways to batch them out the best
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way would be to find a short wide scrap
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like this this way you can make a rabbet
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across the end grain either at the
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router table people or by taking two
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passes at the table saw now you can cut
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them all to length at the same time at
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the table saw and I would probably add
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the countersunk holes at this point
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because the work piece is easy to hold
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when it's bigger then you can cut them
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into their individual buttons and you
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can see how cutting that rabbet on the
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end grain easily created the tongue with
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the grain oriented in the correct
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direction but I don't always have short
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wide scraps like that so here's another
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way using long skinny scraps you can use
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a miter gauge but I'll use a cross cut
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slide this technique is basically going
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to be like making a box joint take
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multiple passes creating a notch going
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across the grain or use a dado stack if
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you have one then you can place a pin on
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your sled that you can butt your work
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piece against to easily make repeatable
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notches just keep going down the line
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until you can't go any longer once again
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this piece is easier to hold while it's
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still in a state so I'll drill all the
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countersunk holes before using the cross
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cut sled again to cut them to their
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final shape there are also multiple ways
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to make the mortise for the buttons you
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can use chisels or a router I'm gonna
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demo this using the Domino though
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because the Domino makes a perfectly
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sized slots at a fixed distance from the
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top of the apron so it's a great tool
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for this job besides for grain Direction
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the biggest thing to pay attention to
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here when making these is the distance
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from the top of the slot in the apron
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and the thickness of the button you want
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to make these so that when the tongue is
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pressed up on the top of the groove
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there's like a teeny tiny maybe 30
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second Gap there that's what's really
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going to hold your tabletop down now
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while I was making these I was trying to
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think of an easy way to accomplish the
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same thing thing with simpler tools and
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I think I thought of something where I
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could incorporate dowels and it would be
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super simple let's test it out first
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I'll drill some holes in a scrap that
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will fit a dowel that I have on hand
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then cut a long dowel into smaller
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pieces and I chamferred one end just so
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that it will go into the apron more
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easily then I can glue them into the
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holes I first drilled out just like the
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other buttons I countersunk some holes
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while it was still in this larger State
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then cut them into their individual
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buttons and they're ready to be
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installed no measuring here I simply
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place the buttons on the stretcher so
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that there will be a slight gap between
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the top of the button and the bottom of
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the table top and then I eyeballed the
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center of the dowel I made a mark and
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drilled a hole you can see how this
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works exactly like the other buttons
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once screwed to the top through the
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countersunk holes the pressure from the
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dowel in the apron locks everything
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together when installing these on the
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long stretchers I would just make sure
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to back them out a little bit so the
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dowel has room to move in and out on the
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short stretchers going across the grain
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the dowels would need to move side to
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side so I drilled two holes next to each
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other and chiseled out in the center
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just to keep it simple but this could
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totally be done with a router or Domino
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and you can see how the button can now
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move side to side in the slot so I don't
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think I've ever seen this done before
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but I think the concept is pretty cool
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because you really only need a drill and
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some hand tools to make them work let me
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know what you guys think of this one I
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think they are pretty cool and
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conceptually I think this totally works
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all right moving on to the last but not
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least method a sliding dovetail I
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mentioned impressing your friends with
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the tabletop buttons before well a
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sliding dovetail will even impress your
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enemies this is the most complicated of
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the bunch but it's a great traditional
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way to eliminate breakage in Cross grain
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attachments I've showed how to make a
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sliding dovetail many times on my
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channel but here's a gist cut dados
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going across the grain of your work
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piece then use a dovetail bit to make
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the sides of that dado angled now for
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your mating piece don't change the
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height of the bit but make sure to take
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multiple passes so you can sneak up on
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your foot obviously this joint can be
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cut using hand tools as well but I don't
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have that kind of time but when cutting
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these you want a friction fit because
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you don't need to glue these two pieces
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together you're simply relying on the
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mechanical strength from the angled
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sides you can totally use glue though
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just make sure not to put glue through
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the entire joint that defeats the
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purpose of allowing the top to move you
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really would only want to add glue to
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one end and this way it will stay in
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place in one spot and the top can still
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expand and contract through the whole
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joint there are definitely more ways to
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attach a table top that I didn't cover
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but these are the basics that have been
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working for me on my projects so I hope
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this helps you out as well oh and uh let
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me know what you think of the dowel
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buttons this seems like a super simple
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idea that anyone can achieve with
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minimal tools I think I like it so
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that's it for this one huge thanks to
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Woodcraft and policy genius for
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sponsoring this video and thank you guys
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so much for watching I will see you on
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the next one
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foreign
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really okay thanks
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a call that totally could have been a
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