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patriotic�music
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Every�election�is�a
facelift�for�the�country,
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and�babe,�we're�lookin'�botched.
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I�mean�"snatched."
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Sure,�some�cities
don't�have�water,
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but�let's�talk
about�the�ones�that�do!
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I�don't�let�myself
get�discouraged,
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which�is�why�I�bring�this�quote
with�me�whenever�I�enter�the
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voting�booth.
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I�think�that,�to�be
very�honest�with�you,
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I-�I�do�believe�that�we...
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should�have�rightly�believed
but�we�certainly�believed�that
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certain�issues�are�just�settled.
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Certain�issues�are�just�settled.
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And�that's�why�I�do
believe�that�we�are�living,
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sadly,�in,�um,�real
unsettled...times.
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Iconic�words�from�Vice
President�Kamala�Harris.
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[eagle�caws]
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People�say�that
democracy�isn't�cool,
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but�then�how�do�you�explain�why
there�are�so�many�long�lines�at
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the�polls,�idiot?!
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[sighs]�Don't�fight
me�on�this�because,
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in�the�words�of
activist�Kandi�Burruss,
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"I�am�not�Michelle�Obama.
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You�go�low,�I'm
goin'�low�wit�cha!"
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U-S-A:�where�sparklers�are
legal,�despite�the�danger.
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Tonight,�I'll�be�joined
by�Bob�the�Drag�Queen.
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Democrats�are
pass-around�party�bottoms.
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And�DeRay�Mckesson.
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There�is�no�America
without�Black�people.
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U-S-A!
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U-S-A!
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Oh,�no!
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Ziwe � starts�now!
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cool�theme�music
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My�guest�tonight�is
an�iconic�drag�queen,
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comedian,�and�activist�who
believes�in�the�power�of
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democracy.
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Show�them�what
democracy�looks�like!
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[Ziwe�VO]�He�was�arrested�while
exercising�his�First�Amendment
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right.
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All�equality!
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[Ziwe�VO]�His�HBO
travel�show, � We're�Here,
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reveals�his�true
pro-America�agenda.
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Please�welcome
Bob�the�Drag�Queen!
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Ah!
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-"Yankee�Doodle"
-Ah.
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My�little�wave�to�the�world.
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-How�are�you?!
-Hello,�thank�you�for�coming!
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I'm�beyond�excited.
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I'm�beyond�excited.
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What's�beyond�excited?
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What's�the�next�level?
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Um,�titillated.
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I'm�very�excited
to�titillate�you.
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I'll�tittle�you!
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No,�let's�just�hop
into�this�interview,
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because�I�have�a�lot�of
questions�for�you�about...
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democracy.
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-I�love�democracy.
-[Ziwe]�You�do?
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-We�stan.
-We�stan�democracy?
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Oh,�we�stan�democracy.
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Okay,�[bleep],�marry,
kill:�legislative�branch,
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executive�branch,
judicial�branch?
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Are�we�talking,�like,�2009?!
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Why�would�you�take
it�[laughing]�to�2009?
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There�was�a�hot
person�in�office�in�2009.
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Barack�Obama?
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Yes,�of�all�the�people�who've
been�in�office�since�I've�been
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alive,�he's�the�#1.
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And�that's�Ronald
Reagan,�Bill�Clinton,
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Obama...
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What�year�do�you
think�I�was�born?
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1985?
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What�year�were�you�born?!
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I�was�born�in
2002�'cause�I'm�19.
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So�you�don't�think
we're�the�same�age.
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[guffawing]�Wow!
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I'm�shook.
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You-�you�were
actually�really�close,
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and�I'm�hurt�by�that.
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Where�were�you
January�6th,�2021?
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Funny�you�should�ask...
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because�you'll�notice�I�went
dark�on�social�media�that�day,
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and�my�GPS
was�turned�off,
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and�I�do�have�a
very�long�CVS�receipt
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for�one�tube�of�ChapStick�that
was�purchased�on�the�Upper�West
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Side�of�Manhattan�that�is�the
only�evidence�of�where�I�was.
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That's�my�story�and
I'm�sticking�to�it.
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patriotic�music
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How�would�you�rate�the�Great
American�Experiment�on�a�scale
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of�"sashay"�to�"slay?"
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-Oh,�this�whole�country?
-Yeah!
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America!
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In�the�main�challenge,�you
really�let�freedom�ring.
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But�on�the�runway...
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you�were�not�shining
from�sea�to�shining�sea.
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I'm�sorry,�my�dear,�but
you�are�up�for�elimination.
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That�was�my�RuPaul.
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Not�as�good�as�my�Obama�but...
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Okay,�well,�do-
do�the�Barack�Obama.
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Thank�you!
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Was�that-�it's�like
pulling�teeth�around�here!
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Ugh.�[clears�throat]
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[Obama�voice]
Uh...America,�uh...
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I,�uh,�was�talking�to
Michelle,�and,�uh...
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she�was,�uh,�telling
me,�uh,�that...
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it�is�time�to�show
up�for�each�other!
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[regular�voice]�Are�you
gonna�acknowledge�that�was�good?
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Yes.
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I�need�you�to�acknowledge
that�that�was�a�very�good�Barack
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Obama.
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I'm�saying�it's�good!
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What-�how�much
validation�do�you�need?
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Uh,�maybe�just�one�more.
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It�was�good.
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That's�the�same�one!�[laughs]
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On�an�episode�of�Billboard
Pride's�'Spillin'�the�Tea,'
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you�said,�"All�white
people�are�racist."
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Just�to�show�America
you're�not�biased,
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could�you�make�a�sweeping
generalization�about�Black
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people?
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All�Black�people�in�America...
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um,�have�probably,�um...
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tense�music
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been�at�the�receiving�end�of
some�form�of�white�supremacy
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ideology.
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Wow,�and�can�you�make�a
generalization�about�Latinos?
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I'm�gonna�pass�on�that�one.
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Asians?
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Pass�on�that�one�too.
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Indigenous�people?
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Oh,�I-�mm,�pass
on�that�one�too.
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Interesting�that�you�didn't�say
they�were�subject�to�racism�as
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well.
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[inhales�sharply]�Cancelled.
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You�didn't�even�ask�for�my
pronouns�when�I�sat�down!
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I�read�them!
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They're�she/her�and�also�he/him.
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Well,�I�updated
them�this�morning.
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Oh,�what�are�they�now?
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Just�reversed;�now
he/him�and�she/her.
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Could�you�tell�them�that�we'll
be�right�back�after�the�break?
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[Obama�voice]�Uh...America,
uh,�we�will�be�right�back,
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uh,�after�this�short�break!
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[Ziwe�VO]�Next�on � Ziwe...
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Do�you�want�me�to
explain�fisting?
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You�just�kinda�cram�it.
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chimes
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[man�VO]�From�the�majestic
heights�of�the�Rocky�Mountains
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to�the�awe-inspiring
depths�of�the�Grand�Canyon,
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America�is�definitely�not�in
the�grips�on�an�ethnocentric
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backlash�against�the
historically�disenfranchised,
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all�because�a�couple�of�brokeys
didn't�want�to�pay�taxes�to
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Britain.
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Across�her�wide-open�prairies
roam�the�steady�winds�of�freedom
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-�the�kind�of�feel-good
metaphor�that�lets�you�know
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America�is�the�real�deal,�with
real�judicial�appointments�that
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are�built�to�last
like�a�big�old�truck,
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a�truck�that�makes�laws
that�are�balanced�and�fair.
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-[women]�No�justice!
-[crowd]�No�peace!
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[man�VO]�Whether�gazing�up�at
the�starry�skies�of�the�country
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or�the�twinkling
lights�of�the�city,
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America�knows�how
to�dream�big...
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and�incarcerate�big,
because�people�deserve�it.
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Bad�Americans:�jailed.
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Good�Americans:�free.
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A�nation�where�every�politician
is�definitely�effective�and
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definitely�gets�things�done
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and�is�definitely�not�too�old�-
because�that�would�be�ageist�-
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and�a�Congress�that�definitely
wants�to�do�anything,
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-anything�at�all.
-[Senator�Johnson]�I-�I�object.
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[man�VO]�Whether�breaking
a�new�record�for�speed...
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-[overlapping�shouting]
-endurance...
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[overlapping�shouting]
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-or�strength...
-[crowd]�U-S-A!�U-S-A!
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[man�VO]�America
celebrates�its�champions...
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-Roman�Polanski.
-[cheers�and�applause]
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[man�VO]�And�is
ready�to�celebrate�you.
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America:�the�only�country
that�is�big�and�strong.
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Plan�your�visit
today�at�usausausa.baby.me.
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exciting�strings
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If�you�could�give�a�shout-out
to�some�of�your�favorite�Black
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female�politicians...
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Can�I�tell�you�one�of�my-�a
moment�that�really�rocked�my
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world�before�I�give�a�shout-out?
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-[Ziwe]�What?
-[sighs]
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When�you're�Black...
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and�you're-�you're�kinda�raised
to�root�for�everyone�Black,
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so�you�kind�of�just
do�it�blindly.
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Yes.
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Without�even
considering�what�they're�up�to.
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Got�it.
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And�when�I�was�younger,
I�really�was,�like,
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very�inspired
by�Condoleeza�Rice.
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[Ziwe]�Oh,�got�it!
Yes.
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And�then�I�got
older,�and�I�was�like,
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"Oh,�she�w-�oh!
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Oh..."
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Think�about�the�things
that�woman�had�to�overcome.
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Her�name�was�"Condolisa
Ri-"�Is�it�"Condoleeza?"
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"Condoleeza�Rice."
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-"Condoleeza."
-Yeah.
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It's�kind�of�an
amazing�name.
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And�it's�like,�when�you
have�a�name�like�"Oprah"�or
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"Condoleeza,"�you
have�to�make�it�big.
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And�to�be�clear,�when�you
say�"A�name�like�'Oprah'..."
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A�name�that,�like,
white�people�would�be�like,
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"What's�with�that�name?"
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Like�"Condoleeza."
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Like�a�Black-�she�has�a-
it's�a�old�Black�country�name.
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It�is?
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What�is�the�last�13-year-old
white�girl�you�met�named
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-"Condoleeza?"
-[ding]
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[Ziwe]�Wow.
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But�anyway,�I�was
inspired�by�her�as�a�kid,
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and�as�I�got�older,�I
started�to�be�like,
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"Oh,�no,�she's�kinda...
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[bleep]ed."
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But�Stacey�Abrams.
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What's�wild�about
Stacey�Abrams�is,�like,
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there's�so�much
expectation�of�Black�women�to,
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like,�kind�of�save
the�day�in�politics,
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so,�I�mean,�you
famously�once�said,
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quote,�"You�can�always�rely
on�progress�from�Black�women."
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Mm-hm.
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So�what�issues�are�you
currently�waiting�for�Black
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women�to�fix?
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Um,�I-�I�don't�know�that�I'm
waiting�for�Black�women�to�fix
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things,�but�when
they�do,�you�know,
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I'm�like...
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they-�they�kinda
do�their�own�thing.
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I'm-�I'm�not�like,�you�know...
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getting�Black�women
to�do�certain�things.
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I�need�you�to�acknowledge
that�that�was�a�very�good�Barack
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Obama.
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[slow-mo]�It�was�good.
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But�I�think�that�Black�women
will�shock�us�in�the�future�with
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what�they've�fixed.
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We�won't�even-
sometimes�there�are,
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you�know,�different�factions�of
people�working�their�own�things
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in�their�own�time.
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So�do�you�think�that�if
Stacey�Abrams�takes�a�day�off,
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democracy�will�die?
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Well,�what�day�is�it?
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On�a�Tuesday.
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Which�season?
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Fall.
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Death�of�democracy.
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Wow!
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00:09:26,275 --> 00:09:28,775
You've�claimed�Harriet�Tubman
was�the�first�Black�superhero.
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Yes!
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00:09:30,112 --> 00:09:31,945
Who�would�win�in�a�fight:
Harriet�Tubman�or�Spiderman.
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00:09:31,946 --> 00:09:35,491
Um,�I'm�gonna�go
with�Harriet�Tubman.
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00:09:35,492 --> 00:09:36,783
How�would�she
beat�Spiderman's�ass?
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00:09:36,784 --> 00:09:39,328
-Well,�she�has�a�gun.
-[gunshot]
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[crew�laughter]
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And�is�this�the�Tom
Holland�version�or�the...
259
00:09:43,374 --> 00:09:44,708
-Tobey�Maguire?
-That�twink?
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[scoffs]�Oh,�she�would�ruin.
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Tom�Hollands�is�98�lbs
soaking�wet�with�rain�boots�on.
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Harriet�Tubman�is�a
scout�for�the�US�military.
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00:09:54,343 --> 00:09:56,721
The�cardio�on�this�woman?
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From�below�the�Mason
Dixie�to�Canada�12�times?!
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00:10:01,435 --> 00:10:02,809
Also,�those�guns
back�in�the�day,
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00:10:02,810 --> 00:10:04,144
it�wasn't,�like,
a�little�bullet.
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00:10:04,145 --> 00:10:06,355
It�would�wreck�your�whole�shit!
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00:10:06,397 --> 00:10:07,523
Closed�casket!
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00:10:07,565 --> 00:10:09,066
[slam]
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00:10:09,067 --> 00:10:12,569
And�your�impression�of�Harriet
Tubman�shooting�Spiderman�to
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00:10:12,570 --> 00:10:13,570
camera?
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00:10:13,571 --> 00:10:15,030
Watch�out,�Spidan[bleep]!
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exciting�cinematic�music
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[Ziwe�VO]�Next�on � Ziwe...
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Hi,�are�you�Team�Oligarchy?
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Or�Team�De-mocracy?
[chuckles]
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chimes
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00:10:27,251 --> 00:10:32,298
"The�Star-Spangled
Banner"�hip-hop�beat
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00:10:34,377 --> 00:10:36,259
chimes
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Famously,�you�once�said,�quote,
that�you�thought�about�possibly
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running�for�office.
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N-�[laughs]�no,
I�n-�[laughs]
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00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:43,684
Yeah,�you�did!
284
00:10:43,685 --> 00:10:45,018
Bob,�would�you�run
for�office�one�day?
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00:10:45,019 --> 00:10:47,187
Maybe�down�the�line
when�I've�had�enough,
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00:10:47,188 --> 00:10:48,314
I�will.
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No,�I'm-�I'm�not
cut�out�for�politics.
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I�don't�have�what�it�takes.
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00:10:50,441 --> 00:10:51,984
What�does�it�take?
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00:10:51,985 --> 00:10:54,527
I�think�it�takes,�um,�one,�a
level�of�servitude�that�I�don't
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00:10:54,528 --> 00:10:56,328
have;�I'm�not�very�subservient.
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I'm�a�dom�top.
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Maybe�down�the�line
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00:10:58,699 --> 00:11:00,533
Down�the,�down
the,�down�the�line
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00:11:00,534 --> 00:11:03,203
Most�politicians,�are�they
power�bottoms�or�are�they�dom
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00:11:03,204 --> 00:11:03,578
tops?
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00:11:03,579 --> 00:11:05,790
Republicans�or�Democrats?
298
00:11:05,791 --> 00:11:08,541
'Cause�the�Green�Party,
they're�fisting�bottoms.
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-They're�nasty.
-Wow!
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00:11:09,877 --> 00:11:11,671
Oh,�the�Green�Party?
301
00:11:11,672 --> 00:11:13,046
You�don't�wanna
[bleep]�with�them.
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00:11:13,047 --> 00:11:14,214
What�does�that�even�mean?
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Fisting?
304
00:11:15,509 --> 00:11:15,799
-It's�when�you�take�your�hand-
-No,�I-�oh,�gosh.
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00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,510
Oh,�okay,�sorry.
306
00:11:17,511 --> 00:11:19,052
Do�you�want�me�to
explain�fisting?
307
00:11:19,053 --> 00:11:20,470
With�consent,�can�I
explain�it�to�you?
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00:11:20,471 --> 00:11:22,473
In�relation�to�politics.
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00:11:22,515 --> 00:11:26,477
Fisting�is�when�you�take�a
ballot�and�you�put�it�in�the
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00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:30,106
box,�so�you�kind�of�have�to
crunch�up�the�ballot�like�this
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00:11:30,147 --> 00:11:33,859
so�that�it�can�fit�in�there,
and�then�you�just�kinda�cram�it.
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And�the�Republicans?
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Um,�they're-
they're�kind�of,�um.
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lazy�tops.
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00:11:38,739 --> 00:11:39,865
Democrats?
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00:11:39,866 --> 00:11:41,741
Democrats�are
pass-around�party�bottoms.
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Oh,�wow!
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Yeah.
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00:11:44,454 --> 00:11:45,745
Do�you�need�me�to�describe�what
a�pass-around�party�bottom�is?
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For�the�record,�yes,
please,�to�your�camera.
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00:11:46,330 --> 00:11:48,164
-It's�when�you�pick�a�bottom...
-[Ziwe]�Yes.
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And�you�pass�'em
around�at�a�party.
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00:11:49,417 --> 00:11:50,417
Yes.
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00:11:50,418 --> 00:11:52,085
Don't�knock�it
until�you've�tried�it.
325
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Being�a�Democrat?
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"The
Star-Spangled�Banner"
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[Ziwe�VO]�Next�on � Ziwe...
328
00:12:05,683 --> 00:12:08,686
[laughing]�This...is...rigged!
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00:12:08,687 --> 00:12:09,644
Rigged!
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00:12:09,645 --> 00:12:11,689
chimes
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00:12:11,731 --> 00:12:13,441
Nice�country�you�got�there.
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Would�be�a�shame�if
something�happened�to�it.
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00:12:16,318 --> 00:12:18,738
Donate�now�and�I'll
see�what�I�can�do.
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00:12:20,531 --> 00:12:22,450
chimes
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exciting�strings
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00:12:25,454 --> 00:12:27,537
It's�time�to�play
Mobilize�the�Vote.
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00:12:27,538 --> 00:12:29,123
Could�you�sing�the�jingle?
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Mobilize�the�vote
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00:12:30,791 --> 00:12:35,171
Mobilize�that
mutha[bleep]in'�voooote...
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00:12:35,212 --> 00:12:36,297
N[bleep].
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00:12:36,298 --> 00:12:36,755
I�thought�you�were
gonna�say�it�with�me.
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00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:38,381
Can�I�say�n[bleep]�on�this�show?
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00:12:38,382 --> 00:12:39,257
Yeah.
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Can�you�say�it�with�me,�though?
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No.
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Someone�is�going
to�spin�the�wheel.
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00:12:43,513 --> 00:12:45,513
Based�on�where�it�lands,�you
will�have�to�inspire�that�group
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to�rock�the�vote�by�picking
something�out�of�the�Bag�of
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-Tricks.
-[Bob]�Got�it.
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Let's�begin!
351
00:12:49,935 --> 00:12:51,395
Richard�Nixon?
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00:12:51,437 --> 00:12:52,563
[Bob]�Oh,�God.
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Wow!
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00:12:53,439 --> 00:12:55,733
That's...really...
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00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:56,901
bubonic�plague!
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00:12:56,902 --> 00:12:57,942
[Bob]�It's�a�little�dark.
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00:12:57,943 --> 00:12:58,818
[Ziwe]�Perfect�for�the�times.
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00:12:58,819 --> 00:13:00,279
Great,�spin�the�wheel!
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patriotic�music
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00:13:03,157 --> 00:13:05,117
Ratata-tatata-tatata.
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00:13:05,159 --> 00:13:06,577
[Ziwe]�LGBTQ+.
362
00:13:06,619 --> 00:13:09,747
Uh,�"Plug�their�favorite�beer."
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00:13:09,789 --> 00:13:12,958
Lesbians,�I'm�talkin'�to�you!
364
00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,293
So�listen,�Edna!
365
00:13:14,335 --> 00:13:17,525
I'm�gonna�need�you�to�put
down�the�Pabst�Blue�Ribbon,
366
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call�your�twink
cousin,�let�him�know...
367
00:13:20,508 --> 00:13:22,301
we're�votin'�this�November.
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00:13:22,302 --> 00:13:23,009
Spin�again.
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00:13:23,010 --> 00:13:26,430
patriotic�music
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Oh,�this�is�your�people!
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00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,349
The�way�you�come�on
my�show�to�insult�me...
372
00:13:29,350 --> 00:13:30,810
[long�beep]
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00:13:30,811 --> 00:13:31,726
Spin�again.
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00:13:31,727 --> 00:13:34,688
patriotic�music
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Your�people.
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00:13:35,648 --> 00:13:37,525
[laughs]
377
00:13:37,566 --> 00:13:41,654
[shrieking�laugh]
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00:13:41,695 --> 00:13:43,531
Wow,�Nene!
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00:13:43,572 --> 00:13:45,282
Wow!
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00:13:45,324 --> 00:13:48,702
"Blank�is�on�the�ballot."
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00:13:48,744 --> 00:13:50,037
Elders.
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00:13:50,038 --> 00:13:52,664
I'm�sorry�to�interrupt
you�from�watching�the�news,
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00:13:52,665 --> 00:13:56,794
which�you�love�to�do,
or�from�doing�sudoku.
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00:13:56,836 --> 00:13:59,880
Now,�I�know�that
as�you...mature,
385
00:13:59,922 --> 00:14:04,093
um,�getting�to�live
becomes�much�more�expensive.
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00:14:04,134 --> 00:14:08,430
And�let's�just�say�medication...
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00:14:08,472 --> 00:14:09,557
is�on�the�ballot.
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00:14:09,558 --> 00:14:10,974
That�sounds�like�a�threat.
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00:14:10,975 --> 00:14:12,518
eerie�tone
390
00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:14,728
chimes
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00:14:14,729 --> 00:14:16,646
Democracy�works�if
you�work�it,�pledge.
392
00:14:16,647 --> 00:14:18,983
So�let's�play�Electoral�College.
393
00:14:18,984 --> 00:14:19,816
Jingle�me!
394
00:14:19,817 --> 00:14:20,692
All�right,�here�we�go.
395
00:14:20,693 --> 00:14:22,820
Uh,�Electoral�College
396
00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:24,363
Bi-di�di�di
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00:14:24,364 --> 00:14:26,865
[Ziwe]�All�you�have�to�do�is
take�a�ping�pong�ball�and�toss
398
00:14:26,866 --> 00:14:27,657
it�into�a�cup.
399
00:14:27,658 --> 00:14:28,825
That�will�be�your�vote.
400
00:14:28,826 --> 00:14:30,244
Hey!
401
00:14:30,245 --> 00:14:31,286
Because�you�did�it�wrong,
the�Scantron�was�messed�up.
402
00:14:31,287 --> 00:14:32,830
[buzzer]
403
00:14:32,831 --> 00:14:34,831
Your�vote�didn't�count�because
you�didn't�have�a�witness�when
404
00:14:34,832 --> 00:14:35,665
you�signed.
405
00:14:35,666 --> 00:14:37,459
-[buzzer]
-Yikes.
406
00:14:37,460 --> 00:14:38,543
Okay,�here�we�go.
407
00:14:38,544 --> 00:14:39,836
Sorry,�the
polling�site�is�closed.
408
00:14:39,837 --> 00:14:41,088
[laughs]�Oh�my�God!
409
00:14:41,130 --> 00:14:42,214
Okay,�woo!
410
00:14:42,256 --> 00:14:43,757
Ayyy!
411
00:14:43,758 --> 00:14:44,716
Gang�gang�gang!
412
00:14:44,717 --> 00:14:46,342
Sorry,�that�one�doesn't�count!
413
00:14:46,343 --> 00:14:47,552
Well,�why
doesn't�that�one�count?
414
00:14:47,553 --> 00:14:49,220
Because�we�lost
your�votes�in�the�mail.
415
00:14:49,221 --> 00:14:50,306
-[buzzer]
-Wow!
416
00:14:50,347 --> 00:14:52,474
That's�the�show!
[laughs]
417
00:14:52,516 --> 00:14:54,476
Let�me�vote�as�a�white�guy.
418
00:14:54,518 --> 00:14:55,603
Oh�my�God!
419
00:14:55,644 --> 00:14:57,438
[overlapping�dings]
420
00:14:57,479 --> 00:14:58,856
exciting�music
421
00:14:58,857 --> 00:15:01,816
This�just�in:�Local�Man�Does
Horrific�Thing�with�Horrific
422
00:15:01,817 --> 00:15:02,902
Weapon.
423
00:15:02,903 --> 00:15:04,777
For�more�on�this
story,�my�co-anchor�Ike.
424
00:15:04,778 --> 00:15:06,238
Thank�you,�Ziwe.
425
00:15:06,239 --> 00:15:08,698
Sources�say�he�got�said�horrific
weapon�from�Horrific�Weapons
426
00:15:08,699 --> 00:15:09,909
Store.
427
00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:11,284
Local�politicians�are
shocked�to�learn�that,
428
00:15:11,285 --> 00:15:13,661
based�on�their�inaction,
everything�played�out�to�its
429
00:15:13,662 --> 00:15:15,414
logical�conclusion.
430
00:15:15,456 --> 00:15:16,916
Ike?
431
00:15:16,917 --> 00:15:19,292
More�after�we�find�out�the
perpetrator's�race�and�gender.
432
00:15:19,293 --> 00:15:19,792
Ziwe?
433
00:15:19,793 --> 00:15:21,086
White�and�male.
434
00:15:21,128 --> 00:15:22,178
Back�to�you,�Ike.
435
00:15:22,212 --> 00:15:24,298
And�now,�a�word
from�our�sponsors.
436
00:15:24,299 --> 00:15:27,717
The�only�way�we're�able�to�bring
you�this�in-depth�coverage�is
437
00:15:27,718 --> 00:15:31,220
because�of�the�generous�support
of�the�horrific�weapon's�parent
438
00:15:31,221 --> 00:15:31,596
company.
439
00:15:31,597 --> 00:15:33,015
uplifting�jovial�music
440
00:15:33,057 --> 00:15:35,309
If!�Only!�Somebody!�Could!
441
00:15:35,351 --> 00:15:37,811
Tell�me!�Why!�This!
Keeps!�Happening!
442
00:15:37,853 --> 00:15:40,272
The�million!�Dollar!
Question!
443
00:15:40,273 --> 00:15:42,690
I'd�be�a�rich�woman
if�I�knew�the�answer.
444
00:15:42,691 --> 00:15:44,652
Breaking�news...
445
00:15:44,653 --> 00:15:47,070
Actually,�no�breaking
news�at�the�moment.
446
00:15:47,071 --> 00:15:48,781
I,�uh...
447
00:15:48,822 --> 00:15:50,699
Well,�uh...
448
00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:53,826
It's�just�that�these�events�keep
happening�so�quickly�one�after
449
00:15:53,827 --> 00:15:56,038
the�other�that�I,�uh...
450
00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,417
Well,�you�know,�the�first�thing
I�feel�after�I�peeled�back�the
451
00:16:00,459 --> 00:16:03,629
layer�of�numbness
is�an�anger,
452
00:16:03,671 --> 00:16:08,050
followed�with�hints�of
a�sad�helplessness.
453
00:16:08,092 --> 00:16:11,260
somber�pensive�music
454
00:16:11,261 --> 00:16:14,514
This�just�in:�meet�the�doctors
that�are�required�to�sing!
455
00:16:14,515 --> 00:16:17,726
Is�the�best�medicine�music?!
456
00:16:17,768 --> 00:16:20,562
Do-re-mi-fa-so-la-ti
cured!
457
00:16:20,604 --> 00:16:22,815
exciting�music
458
00:16:22,856 --> 00:16:25,275
Welcome�to
Democracy:�The�Game�Show!
459
00:16:25,276 --> 00:16:26,651
exciting�game�show�music
460
00:16:26,652 --> 00:16:28,778
Where�the�rules�were�made
up�a�very�long�time�ago,
461
00:16:28,779 --> 00:16:30,863
and�you�have�to�not
question�them�at�all.
462
00:16:30,864 --> 00:16:32,865
Guess�what�-�this
game�is�not�rigged,
463
00:16:32,866 --> 00:16:34,117
just�like�democracy!
464
00:16:34,118 --> 00:16:34,575
Let's�play.
465
00:16:34,576 --> 00:16:36,953
Please�welcome�the�contestants!
466
00:16:36,996 --> 00:16:39,331
Are�you�ready�for�democracy?!
467
00:16:39,332 --> 00:16:41,207
[Ziwe�VO]
Contestant�#1�is�Elizabeth,
468
00:16:41,208 --> 00:16:43,168
a�schoolteacher�from�New�Jersey.
469
00:16:43,210 --> 00:16:45,004
Are�you�ready�for�democracy?!
470
00:16:45,005 --> 00:16:46,211
And�then�do�a-
can�you�krump?
471
00:16:46,212 --> 00:16:47,756
Like,�"Are�you�ready?!"
472
00:16:47,757 --> 00:16:49,048
"The�Star-Spangled
Banner"�hip-hop�beat
473
00:16:49,049 --> 00:16:52,177
Contestant�#2�is�Mark,
a�guy�in�New�York�City.
474
00:16:52,219 --> 00:16:55,055
Are�you�ready�for�democracy?!
475
00:16:55,389 --> 00:16:57,766
Before�we
officially�play�the�game,
476
00:16:57,767 --> 00:17:00,059
I�need�you�to�prove�that
you're�American�citizens.
477
00:17:00,060 --> 00:17:02,103
The�person�with�the
most�identity�wins.
478
00:17:02,104 --> 00:17:04,231
Show�me�your�identification.
479
00:17:04,232 --> 00:17:05,273
Licenses!
480
00:17:05,274 --> 00:17:06,357
Voter�registration!
481
00:17:06,358 --> 00:17:08,151
You�knew�this�was
about�democracy!
482
00:17:08,152 --> 00:17:09,610
-Credit�card...
-[Ziwe]�Wow!
483
00:17:09,611 --> 00:17:11,030
Um...teacher�ID...
484
00:17:11,071 --> 00:17:12,448
Okay,�teacher�ID!
485
00:17:12,489 --> 00:17:13,657
Union�shout-outs!
486
00:17:13,699 --> 00:17:15,284
Come�on,�Mark.
487
00:17:15,285 --> 00:17:16,242
Voter�ID...
488
00:17:16,243 --> 00:17:18,119
Do�you�always�travel
with�your�voter�ID?
489
00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:20,330
Yeah,�I�keep�it
right�under�my�ID.
490
00:17:20,331 --> 00:17:22,206
-The�voter�ID�card�wins.
-[ding]
491
00:17:22,207 --> 00:17:25,418
That's�one�point,�but�Elizabeth,
I�think�teachers�are�our�best
492
00:17:25,419 --> 00:17:27,253
laborers,�so�a
point�for�you,�too.
493
00:17:27,254 --> 00:17:28,672
-Thank�you.
-[ding]
494
00:17:28,714 --> 00:17:32,593
Now,�let's�play�a�game;�it's
called�Lesser�of�Two�Evils.
495
00:17:32,594 --> 00:17:34,052
I'll�tell�you
about�two�candidates,
496
00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:36,971
and�I'll�need�you�to�run�to
the�lesser�of�two�evils�and�tag
497
00:17:36,972 --> 00:17:38,772
them�with�your�I�Voted�sticker.
498
00:17:38,773 --> 00:17:40,808
Now,�Candidate�A
is�a�sex�offender,
499
00:17:40,809 --> 00:17:43,729
and�Candidate�B�is�a
milder�sex�offender.
500
00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:45,188
So�who�are�you�gonna�vote�for?
501
00:17:45,189 --> 00:17:46,239
[sighs]
502
00:17:46,273 --> 00:17:48,108
We�have�to�choose,�right?
503
00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:49,777
Or�you�don't�vote.
504
00:17:49,818 --> 00:17:51,820
Lesser�of�two�evils!
505
00:17:51,945 --> 00:17:54,823
-[ding]�[ding]
-Wow,�I�love�that�for�us.
506
00:17:54,865 --> 00:17:58,994
Candidate�A�is�a�gay�pro-life
Democrat�and�Candidate�B�is�a
507
00:17:58,995 --> 00:17:59,952
Black�Republican.
508
00:17:59,953 --> 00:18:01,412
[Mark]�I�can't�go�pro-life.
509
00:18:01,413 --> 00:18:02,246
[ding]
510
00:18:02,247 --> 00:18:02,830
[Ziwe]�Oh,�Herschel�Walker.
511
00:18:02,831 --> 00:18:04,165
[Elizabeth]�I'm�just
gonna�close�my�eyes.
512
00:18:04,166 --> 00:18:05,166
[ding]
513
00:18:05,167 --> 00:18:06,459
[Ziwe]�Candidate
A�is�98�years�old,
514
00:18:06,460 --> 00:18:08,087
Candidate�B�is�a�woman.
515
00:18:08,128 --> 00:18:10,923
Okay,�we're
pro-woman;�I�love�that�vibe.
516
00:18:10,964 --> 00:18:12,091
[ding]
517
00:18:12,092 --> 00:18:13,341
Okay,�Candidate�A
lied�about�being�Black,
518
00:18:13,342 --> 00:18:15,134
Candidate�B�thinks
Black�people�lie.
519
00:18:15,135 --> 00:18:16,636
I'm�gonna�sit�this�one�out.
520
00:18:16,637 --> 00:18:18,137
You're�gonna-�you're�not
gonna�vote�in�this�election?!
521
00:18:18,138 --> 00:18:19,972
I'm�choosing�between
the�lesser�of�two�evils.
522
00:18:19,973 --> 00:18:22,266
I-�I�don't�think
either�of�them�is�less,
523
00:18:22,267 --> 00:18:25,478
but�I�also�don't�want�to�not
exercise�my�right�to�vote,
524
00:18:25,479 --> 00:18:27,648
so�my�gut
instinct�is�to�sit�out.
525
00:18:27,689 --> 00:18:29,274
exciting�game�show�music
526
00:18:29,316 --> 00:18:30,734
[buzzer]
527
00:18:30,735 --> 00:18:32,485
[Ziwe]�The�next�round�is
called�Where�are�Your�Morals?
528
00:18:32,486 --> 00:18:34,862
Stand�up�against�what
you�hate�in�politics.
529
00:18:34,863 --> 00:18:36,281
What�do�you�guys�hate?
530
00:18:36,282 --> 00:18:37,323
What�do�I�hate?
531
00:18:37,324 --> 00:18:38,491
-Yes,�hurry!
-[Mark]�Okay,�oh,�geez.
532
00:18:38,492 --> 00:18:39,534
-Well,�I�hate�ConEd.
-[ding]
533
00:18:39,535 --> 00:18:41,078
They're�awful.
534
00:18:41,079 --> 00:18:42,286
-Not�a�fan�of�cops.
-[ding]
535
00:18:42,287 --> 00:18:43,204
Wow!
536
00:18:43,205 --> 00:18:45,624
I�hate�racism,�I
hate�inequality,
537
00:18:45,666 --> 00:18:47,251
I�hate�liars.
538
00:18:47,252 --> 00:18:50,294
Now,�here's�a�question�for�you:
this�could�be�full�with�money.
539
00:18:50,295 --> 00:18:51,797
[cash�register�ding]
540
00:18:51,839 --> 00:18:55,425
So�I�wanna�know�how�much�cash
would�it�take�for�you�to�drop
541
00:18:55,426 --> 00:18:56,509
your�morals.
542
00:18:56,510 --> 00:18:57,970
$100?
543
00:18:57,971 --> 00:18:58,678
No.
544
00:18:58,679 --> 00:19:00,681
$15,000?
545
00:19:00,682 --> 00:19:01,222
No.
546
00:19:01,223 --> 00:19:02,641
$1�million.
547
00:19:02,642 --> 00:19:03,266
[softly]�Yeah.
548
00:19:03,267 --> 00:19:04,852
-$1�million?
-Yeah.
549
00:19:04,893 --> 00:19:06,854
Please�say�"I�love�Con�Edison."
550
00:19:07,020 --> 00:19:08,856
Con�Edison�is�just�fine.
551
00:19:08,897 --> 00:19:09,947
[dramatic�thud]
552
00:19:09,948 --> 00:19:13,192
[Ziwe]�It's�time�to�dab�your
way�into�America's�heart�by
553
00:19:13,193 --> 00:19:16,696
doing�a�little�dance,�just�like
your�political�heroes�have�done.
554
00:19:16,697 --> 00:19:18,257
Whoever's�my�favorite�wins.
555
00:19:18,258 --> 00:19:19,323
Hit�it!
556
00:19:19,324 --> 00:19:21,117
-For�democracy?
-Dab�for�democracy!
557
00:19:21,118 --> 00:19:22,660
Dab�for-�isn't
that-�isn't�this-
558
00:19:22,661 --> 00:19:23,327
Dab!
559
00:19:23,328 --> 00:19:24,287
Isn't�this,�like...
560
00:19:24,288 --> 00:19:25,539
Dab!
561
00:19:25,581 --> 00:19:30,627
"The
Star-Spangled�Banner"
562
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,214
[dinging]
563
00:19:34,215 --> 00:19:36,340
[Ziwe]�In�this�next�game,
you'll�sing�a�song�to�win�the
564
00:19:36,341 --> 00:19:37,426
Black�vote.
565
00:19:37,427 --> 00:19:38,926
It's�called�"The
Black�National�Anthem."
566
00:19:38,927 --> 00:19:40,387
Do�you�guys�know�that?
567
00:19:40,388 --> 00:19:42,680
I�hardly�know�the�words�to
the-�the�white�national�anthem.
568
00:19:42,681 --> 00:19:43,264
[eagle�caw]
569
00:19:43,265 --> 00:19:44,892
The�white�national...?
570
00:19:44,893 --> 00:19:46,100
-[buzzer]
-[dramatic�thud]
571
00:19:46,101 --> 00:19:47,101
Hit�it!
572
00:19:47,102 --> 00:19:48,519
"Lift�Every
Voice�and�Sing"
573
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,063
Lift�every
voice�and�sing
574
00:19:50,064 --> 00:19:51,105
Sing!
575
00:19:51,106 --> 00:19:52,191
I�just-
576
00:19:53,984 --> 00:19:57,529
Can�I�sing�this
as�a�white�woman?!
577
00:19:57,530 --> 00:19:58,905
-Is�this�a�trap?
-It�doesn't...
578
00:19:58,906 --> 00:20:00,240
Is�capitalism�a�trap?
579
00:20:00,282 --> 00:20:01,909
-[softly]�Little�bit.
-Mm...
580
00:20:01,950 --> 00:20:05,078
Are�the�major�tenets�of
our�government�a�trap?
581
00:20:05,746 --> 00:20:07,372
Is�democracy�a�trap?
582
00:20:07,373 --> 00:20:08,372
No!
583
00:20:08,373 --> 00:20:09,832
Then�no,�this�is�not�a�trap.
584
00:20:09,833 --> 00:20:11,417
-[buzzer]
-[dramatic�thuds]
585
00:20:11,418 --> 00:20:14,129
This�is�called�Stay
in�Line,�to�vote!
586
00:20:14,130 --> 00:20:16,172
This�money�in�your
hands�is�your�life�savings,
587
00:20:16,173 --> 00:20:19,091
so�hold�onto�it�as�long�as
possible�while�standing�on�one
588
00:20:19,092 --> 00:20:20,384
foot�or�you�lose�your�vote.
589
00:20:20,385 --> 00:20:21,845
Okay,�stay�in�line!
590
00:20:21,846 --> 00:20:22,470
Work!
591
00:20:22,471 --> 00:20:23,521
Go�back�to�work!
592
00:20:23,555 --> 00:20:25,182
Wooooork!
593
00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:26,433
Wooooork!
594
00:20:26,475 --> 00:20:27,643
Voting!
595
00:20:27,644 --> 00:20:28,517
Voting!
596
00:20:28,518 --> 00:20:29,477
Oh,�you�dropped�your�money!
597
00:20:29,478 --> 00:20:30,979
[landslide]
598
00:20:30,980 --> 00:20:33,397
-[buzzer]
-Final:�beat�The�Essay�Contest!
599
00:20:33,398 --> 00:20:36,777
Explain�why�democracy�is
great,�but�don't�be�boring!
600
00:20:36,778 --> 00:20:39,070
If�you're�boring,�I�get
to�ring�my�little�bell.
601
00:20:39,071 --> 00:20:40,029
[bell�rings]
602
00:20:40,030 --> 00:20:42,866
For�whom�the�bell�tolls!
603
00:20:43,116 --> 00:20:45,702
Democracy's�great
'cause�it's,�uh...
604
00:20:45,703 --> 00:20:49,413
the�actual�government�that�is
for�the�peop-�[bell�rings]
605
00:20:49,414 --> 00:20:50,832
Elizabeth?!
606
00:20:50,874 --> 00:20:55,462
Democracy�is�about�voting,
and�voting�is�about�using�your
607
00:20:55,463 --> 00:20:55,962
-voice.
-[bell�rings]
608
00:20:55,963 --> 00:20:58,507
I'm�ringing�that
bell�positively.
609
00:20:58,508 --> 00:21:00,299
And�that's�The
Democracy�Game�Show!
610
00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:01,802
triumphant�music
611
00:21:01,843 --> 00:21:03,929
-You�both�lost.
-[dramatic�thud]
612
00:21:03,971 --> 00:21:06,098
chimes
613
00:21:06,099 --> 00:21:07,473
I�don't�believe�in�free�speech.
614
00:21:07,474 --> 00:21:09,350
It's�going�to�cost
you�to�hear�my�voice.
615
00:21:09,351 --> 00:21:11,103
chimes
616
00:21:11,144 --> 00:21:15,148
My�next�guest�is�a�Civil
Rights�activist�and�podcaster,
617
00:21:15,149 --> 00:21:18,067
whose�work�first�became�highly
visible�during�the�Ferguson
618
00:21:18,068 --> 00:21:19,986
-protests.
-[crowd]�Black�lives�matter!
619
00:21:19,987 --> 00:21:22,864
The�police�killing
people�has�to�stop.
620
00:21:22,906 --> 00:21:24,366
patriotic�music
621
00:21:24,367 --> 00:21:27,034
[Ziwe�VO]�From�police�reform
campaigns�to�a�well-funded
622
00:21:27,035 --> 00:21:28,453
Baltimore�mayoral�race,
623
00:21:28,495 --> 00:21:31,039
to�his�iconic�blue
Patagonia�vest,
624
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,833
he�is�one�of�the�most�online
political�figures�working
625
00:21:33,834 --> 00:21:34,500
today.
626
00:21:34,501 --> 00:21:35,961
DeRay�Mckesson!
627
00:21:35,962 --> 00:21:38,045
-Thank�you.
-[applause]
628
00:21:38,046 --> 00:21:38,921
That's�so�fun.
629
00:21:38,922 --> 00:21:40,506
I�love�your�Blackness�and�mine!
630
00:21:40,507 --> 00:21:41,674
I�love�you�in�this�vest.
631
00:21:41,675 --> 00:21:43,176
A�cut-off�vest�is�great.
632
00:21:43,177 --> 00:21:45,052
Thank�you,�I�had�to
keep�it�a�little�slutty.
633
00:21:45,053 --> 00:21:45,511
elegant�music
634
00:21:45,512 --> 00:21:46,847
[laughs]
635
00:21:46,848 --> 00:21:47,930
I�love�that�you�have�a�vest!
636
00:21:47,931 --> 00:21:49,432
I�love�that � you � have�a�vest!
637
00:21:49,433 --> 00:21:52,184
What's�a�more�iconic�look,�the
Black�Panther�beret�or�a�DeRay
638
00:21:52,185 --> 00:21:53,235
vest?
639
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:54,320
The�beret.
640
00:21:54,321 --> 00:21:55,604
But�I�love�a�good�vest!
641
00:21:55,605 --> 00:21:57,857
You�know,�I-�I've�had
the�vest�for�a�long�time.
642
00:21:57,858 --> 00:22:00,485
Is�it�the�same�vest
every�single�time?
643
00:22:00,527 --> 00:22:01,820
Same�vest.
644
00:22:01,821 --> 00:22:03,696
When�it�rips,
Patagonia�will�fix�it�for�me.
645
00:22:03,697 --> 00:22:05,257
[Ziwe]�And�do�you�wash�it?
646
00:22:05,258 --> 00:22:07,158
I�do;�it�takes�a�long�time
'cause�you�have�to�dry�it�with
647
00:22:07,159 --> 00:22:10,202
tennis�balls�[chuckling]�so
that�the�down�doesn't�clump.
648
00:22:10,203 --> 00:22:12,163
Or�I�can�actually�ask
Patagonia�to�help�me�wash�it.
649
00:22:12,164 --> 00:22:13,749
Okay,�Patagonia�flex!
650
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:14,874
I�don't�have�a�deal�with�them.
651
00:22:14,875 --> 00:22:16,042
Do�you�need�an�agent?
652
00:22:16,043 --> 00:22:17,293
What's�stopping�you
from�getting�a�deal?
653
00:22:17,294 --> 00:22:18,711
What's�a�deal
like�with�Patagonia?
654
00:22:18,712 --> 00:22:21,297
It-�it�would�be�cool�to
do�a�line�of�acti-vests.
655
00:22:21,298 --> 00:22:22,173
Get�it?
656
00:22:22,174 --> 00:22:23,049
"Acti-vests?"
657
00:22:23,050 --> 00:22:24,509
Isn't�that�cool?
658
00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:27,386
Do�you�agree�with�the
following�statements?
659
00:22:27,387 --> 00:22:28,472
Oh,�God...
660
00:22:28,473 --> 00:22:29,055
[Ziwe]�Please�repeat
after�me�if�you�do.
661
00:22:29,056 --> 00:22:30,182
Here�we�go.
662
00:22:30,183 --> 00:22:31,390
"I�love�the�United
States�of�America."
663
00:22:31,391 --> 00:22:33,477
-I...love�Black�people.
-[ding]
664
00:22:33,518 --> 00:22:35,270
"I�love�the�government."
665
00:22:35,312 --> 00:22:36,813
[ding]
666
00:22:36,814 --> 00:22:38,147
"I�have�nothing�but�admiration
and�respect�for�the�troops,
667
00:22:38,148 --> 00:22:40,524
who�lay�down�their�lives�each
day�to�protect�our�country."
668
00:22:40,525 --> 00:22:42,318
If�the�troops�are�Black
people,�then�absolutely.
669
00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:43,361
-[ding]
-[Ziwe]�Got�it.
670
00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:45,154
So�you�only
support�Black�troops?
671
00:22:45,155 --> 00:22:47,115
Uh,�I�support�Black�people.
672
00:22:47,116 --> 00:22:49,075
Black�people�made
this,�you�know?
673
00:22:49,076 --> 00:22:50,826
There�is�no�America
without�Black�people.
674
00:22:50,827 --> 00:22:51,577
Tea!
675
00:22:51,578 --> 00:22:52,411
Boom.
676
00:22:52,412 --> 00:22:54,039
Where�were�you�January�6th?
677
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,583
Watching�white�people�run�up
on�the�Capitol�and�the�police�do
678
00:22:57,584 --> 00:22:59,211
nothing.
679
00:22:59,212 --> 00:23:01,587
January�6th�is�so�fascinating
because�if�Black�people�had�done
680
00:23:01,588 --> 00:23:04,131
that,�as�you�know,�they'd�have
shot�at-�the�10�police�there
681
00:23:04,132 --> 00:23:04,965
would�have�shot�everybody.
682
00:23:04,966 --> 00:23:06,343
Oh�my�gosh!
683
00:23:06,344 --> 00:23:08,594
They�did�more�to�us�when
all�we�had�was�cell�phones.
684
00:23:08,595 --> 00:23:10,097
Mm.
685
00:23:10,098 --> 00:23:11,263
Those�people-�I�will�never
forget�that�man�putting�his�feet
686
00:23:11,264 --> 00:23:12,641
on�Nancy�Pelosi's�desk.
687
00:23:12,682 --> 00:23:13,767
That�is�wild.
688
00:23:13,768 --> 00:23:15,351
I�would�never
storm�the�Capitol,
689
00:23:15,352 --> 00:23:17,686
but�other�people�are�a
little�more�radical.
690
00:23:17,687 --> 00:23:21,108
Now�DeRay,�I�remember�very
vividly�the�Ferguson�uprising.
691
00:23:21,109 --> 00:23:24,527
Why�would�you�say�that�you�are
sort�of�a�face�of�this�movement?
692
00:23:24,528 --> 00:23:26,779
I�think�that�my�tweets
resonated�with�people,
693
00:23:26,780 --> 00:23:29,198
and�I�hoped�that�they�were�able
to�use�them�to�mobilize�across
694
00:23:29,199 --> 00:23:32,202
the�country,�but
I'm-�I-�I�sit�here�as,�like,
695
00:23:32,203 --> 00:23:34,787
one�of�many�people�who
stood�in�the�street�in�2014,
696
00:23:34,788 --> 00:23:35,997
and�I'm�of�that.
697
00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:39,126
You�stand�on�the
forefathers�of�people�like�Jack,
698
00:23:39,127 --> 00:23:40,209
for�example.
699
00:23:40,210 --> 00:23:41,720
-Jack?
-Jack,�Twitter�man.
700
00:23:41,721 --> 00:23:43,337
Oh,�Twitter,�uh,
ah-�[chuckles]
701
00:23:43,338 --> 00:23:45,423
Well,�if�I�stand�on�the
shoulders�of�Jack�in�terms�of
702
00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:47,299
protests,�but�I
consider�Jack�a�friend.
703
00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:48,217
-[Ziwe]�Oh,�you�do?
-Yeah.
704
00:23:48,218 --> 00:23:49,260
Flex!
705
00:23:49,261 --> 00:23:50,554
I�mean...�[chuckles]
706
00:23:50,555 --> 00:23:52,263
Are�you�in�favor�of
Elon�Musk's�buying�Twitter?
707
00:23:52,264 --> 00:23:53,222
No.
708
00:23:53,223 --> 00:23:54,348
You�don't�support
African-American
709
00:23:54,349 --> 00:23:55,399
entrepreneurship?
710
00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:56,893
[laughs]
711
00:23:56,894 --> 00:23:57,977
If�you�had�to�estimate,�how
many�watch�lists�do�you�think
712
00:23:57,978 --> 00:23:58,853
you're�on?
713
00:23:58,854 --> 00:23:59,904
Today?
714
00:23:59,905 --> 00:24:00,980
I�don't�know,�not
a�lot,�hopefully.
715
00:24:00,981 --> 00:24:02,774
But�back�then,�it�was�a�lot.
716
00:24:02,775 --> 00:24:05,151
For�those�watching�at�home,�I
have�no�association�with�this
717
00:24:05,152 --> 00:24:06,778
man�whatsoever.
718
00:24:06,779 --> 00:24:08,362
And�the�FBI-�I�will
tell�you,�I'll�never�forget,
719
00:24:08,363 --> 00:24:11,699
I�was�somewhere,�um,�where�Miss
Tina�was�and�I�had-�the�FBI�had
720
00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:14,285
just�come�to�my�house,
and�I�tweeted�about�it,
721
00:24:14,286 --> 00:24:16,162
and�she�just,�like-
you�know,�people�were,�like,
722
00:24:16,163 --> 00:24:17,496
nervous�about
being�around�me,
723
00:24:17,497 --> 00:24:18,289
and�I�was�like,�"I
didn't-�I�didn't�do�anything!
724
00:24:18,290 --> 00:24:19,791
The�FBI�just�stopped�by."
725
00:24:19,792 --> 00:24:20,833
And�what�did�Miss�Tina-�what
does�she�have�to�do�with�this
726
00:24:20,834 --> 00:24:21,960
story?
727
00:24:21,961 --> 00:24:23,294
There�were,�like,�a
set�of�people�who,�like,
728
00:24:23,295 --> 00:24:25,004
didn't�wanna�be�too
close�to�me�that�day...
729
00:24:25,005 --> 00:24:26,089
[Ziwe]�Got�it.
730
00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:27,214
That�was�just�a
Beyonce�flex,�it's�okay.
731
00:24:27,215 --> 00:24:28,048
-[DeRay]�It�was�a-
-Just�admit�it.
732
00:24:28,049 --> 00:24:29,216
-Ah...
-Admit�it,�admit�it!
733
00:24:29,217 --> 00:24:31,470
Oh�God,�no,�it-
that�was�true.
734
00:24:31,471 --> 00:24:33,012
Shout-out�to�Beyonce,�though!
735
00:24:33,013 --> 00:24:33,846
We�love�Beyonce.
736
00:24:33,847 --> 00:24:34,889
And�she�follows�you.
737
00:24:34,890 --> 00:24:36,600
And�she�follows�me.
738
00:24:37,309 --> 00:24:39,144
And�she�follows�me.
739
00:24:39,145 --> 00:24:42,521
In�the�past,�you've�said�that
having�a�seat�at�the�table
740
00:24:42,522 --> 00:24:45,149
doesn't�matter�as�much
as�people�think�it�does.
741
00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:47,693
But�why�is�this�photo�of�you
sitting�at�a�table�featured�on
742
00:24:47,694 --> 00:24:49,279
your�website?
743
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,821
So�that�was�a�important�moment;
that�was�a�intergenerational
744
00:24:50,822 --> 00:24:52,823
meeting�of�Civil�Rights
leaders�with�President�Obama.
745
00:24:52,824 --> 00:24:55,367
I�said�to�him,�I'm�like,�"Obama,
you�can't�call�people�'thugs!'"
746
00:24:55,368 --> 00:24:57,411
He�had�just�called�the
Baltimore�protestors�"thugs."
747
00:24:57,412 --> 00:24:59,079
And�he�looked�at
me�and�he�was�like,
748
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,290
"DeRay,�you�said�things�on
TV�you�shouldn't�say�either."
749
00:25:01,291 --> 00:25:02,417
And�I�was�like...
750
00:25:02,418 --> 00:25:03,292
"But�I'm�not�the�president."
751
00:25:03,293 --> 00:25:04,460
And�he�was�like,
"You're�right."
752
00:25:04,461 --> 00:25:06,337
And�I�was�like,�"Thank
you,�President�Obama."
753
00:25:06,338 --> 00:25:07,881
Your�boy�Obama.
754
00:25:07,882 --> 00:25:10,716
You�once�tweeted,�"Protesters
are�the�entrepreneurs�of
755
00:25:10,717 --> 00:25:11,842
American�democracy."
756
00:25:11,843 --> 00:25:12,259
Did�I�tweet�that?!
757
00:25:12,260 --> 00:25:13,636
-You�tweeted�that.
-When?!
758
00:25:13,637 --> 00:25:15,471
How�much�money
should�they�make?
759
00:25:15,472 --> 00:25:17,097
-Did�I�tweet�that?!
-You�tweeted�that!
760
00:25:17,098 --> 00:25:19,475
I�think�people�should�be�p-
social�justice�work�is�work.
761
00:25:19,476 --> 00:25:20,434
How�much�do�you�make?
762
00:25:20,435 --> 00:25:21,875
Our�tax�forms�are�public.
763
00:25:21,876 --> 00:25:22,853
[Ziwe]�Hm.
764
00:25:22,854 --> 00:25:24,898
-They're�on�there.
-[ding]
765
00:25:24,899 --> 00:25:25,731
Got�it.
766
00:25:25,732 --> 00:25:27,108
Next�on � Ziwe...
767
00:25:27,109 --> 00:25:28,651
Did�you�know�that�when
you�were�being�tear-gassed,
768
00:25:28,652 --> 00:25:31,529
that�you�were�going�to�get�a
guest�spot�in�'Being�Mary�Jane?'
769
00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:32,279
No!
770
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,616
chimes
771
00:25:34,658 --> 00:25:36,826
I�put�the�"racy"
in�"democracy."
772
00:25:36,868 --> 00:25:38,495
chimes
773
00:25:38,537 --> 00:25:41,414
exciting�strings
774
00:25:41,415 --> 00:25:43,791
Your�interview�with�Katy�Perry
stoked�a�lot�of�criticism�for
775
00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:45,835
being�a�publicity�stunt.
776
00:25:46,503 --> 00:25:48,213
Why�are�you�sighing?
777
00:25:48,214 --> 00:25:49,463
Okay,�w-�what?
778
00:25:49,464 --> 00:25:50,966
What�about�Katy?
779
00:25:50,967 --> 00:25:52,383
Can�I�even�show
you�the�question?
780
00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:53,467
It�says�"How�did�you�book�her?"
781
00:25:53,468 --> 00:25:55,512
-Zoom�in�on�that!
-[laughs]
782
00:25:55,513 --> 00:25:57,096
[Ziwe]�How�dare
you�interrupt�me?
783
00:25:57,097 --> 00:26:00,099
I�actually�think�it's�rude�to
come�on�someone's�show�and�be
784
00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:01,934
surprised�they're�gonna�ask
about�the�things�you�did�in�the
785
00:26:01,935 --> 00:26:02,226
past!
786
00:26:02,227 --> 00:26:04,062
Katy�is�my�friend.
787
00:26:04,063 --> 00:26:06,313
Uh,�I�am�on�the�board
of�Katy's�foundation,
788
00:26:06,314 --> 00:26:08,524
The�Firework�Foundation,
and�we�run�a�summer�camp,
789
00:26:08,525 --> 00:26:10,526
and�Katy�and�I�are�both�camp
counselors�at�the�summer�camp.
790
00:26:10,527 --> 00:26:11,694
We�have�one�coming
up�in�September.
791
00:26:11,695 --> 00:26:13,445
You�are�camp
counselors�at�the�summer�camp?!
792
00:26:13,446 --> 00:26:14,822
Yeah,�Katy's�like�a
legitimate�counselor;
793
00:26:14,823 --> 00:26:16,490
she's�not�like�a
just...there�hanging�out.
794
00:26:16,491 --> 00:26:19,285
And�what�do�you�and
Katy�Perry�do�at�this�camp?
795
00:26:19,286 --> 00:26:20,327
We're�not�the�only�counselors.
796
00:26:20,328 --> 00:26:21,453
There's,�like,�a
whole�set�of�counselors.
797
00:26:21,454 --> 00:26:22,955
Well,�I�don't�mean
it�in�a�creepy�way,
798
00:26:22,956 --> 00:26:25,499
I�mean�what�do�you�and�the
multiple�counselors�-�plus�the
799
00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:28,510
very-famous�celebrity�Katy
Perry�-�do�at�the�camp?
800
00:26:28,545 --> 00:26:31,923
We've�done�go-kart,�we�do-
they�design�a�shoe�for�Katy
801
00:26:31,965 --> 00:26:33,258
Perry's�collection...
802
00:26:33,259 --> 00:26:35,342
Are�you�and�Katy�Perry
involved�in�a�content�farm?
803
00:26:35,343 --> 00:26:36,595
[laughs]
804
00:26:36,596 --> 00:26:37,803
No,�they're�middle-schoolers!
805
00:26:37,804 --> 00:26:39,805
You�know,�any�way�that�I
can�help�make�a�difference,
806
00:26:39,806 --> 00:26:41,016
sign�me�up!
807
00:26:41,017 --> 00:26:41,390
Do�you�have�a�board-
are�you�a�foundation?
808
00:26:41,391 --> 00:26:42,474
Can�I�be�on�the�board?
809
00:26:42,475 --> 00:26:43,475
You�love�a�board,�chile!
810
00:26:43,476 --> 00:26:44,518
[laughs]
811
00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:46,895
You�go�to�exclusive
fashion�events�sometimes,
812
00:26:46,896 --> 00:26:49,149
like�this�Gucci�Hamptons�party.
813
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:51,276
Are�you�there�to�canvass?
814
00:26:51,318 --> 00:26:53,862
Uh,�I'm�on�the�Gucci
Changemakers�council.
815
00:26:53,863 --> 00:26:56,030
Well,�how�many
councils�are�you�on?!
816
00:26:56,031 --> 00:26:57,031
[laughs]
817
00:26:57,032 --> 00:26:58,490
I�am;�I'm�on�the
board�of�Rock�the�Vote,
818
00:26:58,491 --> 00:27:00,952
Katy's�board,�uh,
Gucci�Changemakers.
819
00:27:00,994 --> 00:27:02,954
I�think�those
are�the�only...
820
00:27:02,955 --> 00:27:04,580
boards�I'm�on,
besides�our�board.
821
00:27:04,581 --> 00:27:06,124
I�love�boards�as�well.
822
00:27:06,125 --> 00:27:08,584
What�inspired�your�decision
to�run�for�mayor�of�Baltimore?
823
00:27:08,585 --> 00:27:10,628
Was�it�a�lust�for�power�or�to
take�a�job�away�from�a�Black
824
00:27:10,629 --> 00:27:12,130
-woman?
-Ah!
825
00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:13,672
Well,�let's�be�clear,
you�know-
826
00:27:13,673 --> 00:27:14,506
Could�you�do�that
scream�again?
827
00:27:14,507 --> 00:27:16,092
It�wa-�[laughs]
828
00:27:16,093 --> 00:27:18,010
It�was�the�right�decision,�and
that�woman�who�won�ended�up�in
829
00:27:18,011 --> 00:27:19,429
jail�for�fraud.
830
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:21,472
But�running�for�mayor�was�an
acknowledgement�that�the�people
831
00:27:21,473 --> 00:27:22,724
who�were�running...
832
00:27:22,725 --> 00:27:24,350
were�not�the�bee's�knees
and�that,�like,
833
00:27:24,351 --> 00:27:25,100
I�could�do�a
better�job�than�that.
834
00:27:25,101 --> 00:27:28,354
Speaking�of�platforms,�um,�your
photograph�is�hanging�at�the
835
00:27:28,355 --> 00:27:29,981
National�Portrait�Gallery.
836
00:27:29,982 --> 00:27:32,858
Can�you�name�five�Black�female
activists�you'd�probably�taken
837
00:27:32,859 --> 00:27:33,985
the�spot�of?
838
00:27:34,027 --> 00:27:37,322
I�wanna�believe�that
there�is�room�for�all�of�us,
839
00:27:37,323 --> 00:27:40,532
uh,�but�I�think�that�there�needs
to�be�a�portrait�of�Diane�Nash,
840
00:27:40,533 --> 00:27:43,035
who�is�an�incredible
leader�of�the�Freedom�Riders;
841
00:27:43,036 --> 00:27:44,746
Fannie�Lou�Hamer,
obviously;
842
00:27:44,747 --> 00:27:45,496
Bell�Hooks,�right?
843
00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:46,748
Rest�in�Peace.
844
00:27:46,790 --> 00:27:48,458
Septima�Clark,�and...
845
00:27:48,459 --> 00:27:50,376
I�think�Coretta
doesn't�get�enough...
846
00:27:50,377 --> 00:27:51,836
Coretta�Scott�King.
847
00:27:51,837 --> 00:27:54,380
Coretta�doesn't�get�enough
sort�of�praise�as�an�organizer
848
00:27:54,381 --> 00:27:55,005
-herself-
-[Ziwe]�Mm.
849
00:27:55,006 --> 00:27:56,341
As�an�activist�herself.
850
00:27:56,342 --> 00:27:58,884
Okay,�can�I�ask�you�some
questions�about�8�Can't�Wait?
851
00:27:58,885 --> 00:27:59,843
Yes.
852
00:27:59,844 --> 00:28:00,928
8�Can't�Wait�worked!
853
00:28:00,929 --> 00:28:01,762
It�was�one�of�the
most�successful-
854
00:28:01,763 --> 00:28:02,843
[Ziwe]�It�worked?!
855
00:28:02,847 --> 00:28:04,237
-Yeah!
-[Ziwe]�Really?!
856
00:28:04,238 --> 00:28:05,224
It's�the�single�biggest
reduction�to�the�power�of�police
857
00:28:05,225 --> 00:28:06,434
in�American�history.
858
00:28:06,435 --> 00:28:08,060
[Ziwe]�So�8�Can't
Wait�and�Campaign�Zero.
859
00:28:08,061 --> 00:28:09,937
There's�in-fighting,�there's
alleged�accusations�being�thrown
860
00:28:09,938 --> 00:28:11,231
around.
861
00:28:11,232 --> 00:28:12,481
So�are�you�a�messy
[bleep]�that�lives�for�drama?
862
00:28:12,482 --> 00:28:14,109
[laughs]
863
00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:15,192
Um...
864
00:28:15,193 --> 00:28:17,063
No,�you�know,
here's�the�thing:
865
00:28:17,064 --> 00:28:19,822
some�people�don't�love�me�or
the�work�that�we�do�or�people
866
00:28:19,823 --> 00:28:21,365
on�our�team�or�our
approach,�right?
867
00:28:21,366 --> 00:28:22,408
[Ziwe]�Mm.
868
00:28:22,409 --> 00:28:23,200
And�the�goal
wasn't�to�be�popular,
869
00:28:23,201 --> 00:28:25,452
the�goal�was�to�figure�out�how
to�do�right�by�Black�people�and
870
00:28:25,453 --> 00:28:26,830
-community...
-[Ziwe]�Mm.
871
00:28:26,831 --> 00:28:29,081
And�every�single�day,�I'm
confident�that�we�do�that.
872
00:28:29,082 --> 00:28:32,209
Would�you�say�that�you're�the
living�embodiment�of�a�corporate
873
00:28:32,210 --> 00:28:33,294
release�statement?
874
00:28:33,295 --> 00:28:34,670
No,�we�break�the
law�all�the�time!
875
00:28:34,671 --> 00:28:36,296
Oh�my�gosh,�why�would
you�say�that�on�camera?!
876
00:28:36,297 --> 00:28:37,465
[laughs]
877
00:28:37,507 --> 00:28:40,218
You've�been�critical
of�fellow�activist...
878
00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:42,470
Shaun�King�for
mishandling�funds.
879
00:28:42,512 --> 00:28:43,972
Okay.
880
00:28:43,973 --> 00:28:45,472
Do�you�think�it's�generally�a
good�idea�to�be�skeptical�of
881
00:28:45,473 --> 00:28:48,643
people�who�rise�to
fame�through�activism?
882
00:28:48,644 --> 00:28:51,687
Y-�yeah,�I�think�that-�I
think�that�celebrity�corrodes
883
00:28:51,688 --> 00:28:53,230
-almost�all�things,�right?
-Mm!
884
00:28:53,231 --> 00:28:54,857
Uh,�and�I-�when�I�think
about�the�platform�I�have,
885
00:28:54,858 --> 00:28:56,650
I�think�about�it�as
a�tool,�not�a�goal.
886
00:28:56,651 --> 00:29:00,112
Often,�being�in�places�allows�me
to�say�the�thing�to�the�people
887
00:29:00,113 --> 00:29:03,282
or�get�close�to�the�people�so�I
can�ask�them�about�this�or
888
00:29:03,283 --> 00:29:04,576
"Can�you�do�the�law?"
889
00:29:04,577 --> 00:29:05,826
or�"Can�you-�can�we
have�a�meeting�about�this?"
890
00:29:05,827 --> 00:29:07,244
-Those�sort�of�things.
-Mm.
891
00:29:07,245 --> 00:29:10,622
Uh,�but�the�moment�that�fame
or�visibility�becomes�the�goal,
892
00:29:10,623 --> 00:29:13,460
I've�just�seen�it�ruin�people;
I've�seen�it...
893
00:29:13,585 --> 00:29:15,420
What?
894
00:29:15,421 --> 00:29:18,839
Every�guest�has�a�nugget�that
they�wanna�share�on�the�show.
895
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,257
The�nugget�is�that
we�can�win,�you�know?
896
00:29:20,258 --> 00:29:23,553
I�think�about�the-�the
wave�of�protests�-�2014,
897
00:29:23,554 --> 00:29:26,346
2020,�all�these�people�in�the
street�-�and�the�thing�that�I
898
00:29:26,347 --> 00:29:29,141
take�away�from�it�is�that,�like,
we�can�actually�change�this.
899
00:29:29,142 --> 00:29:31,436
I'm�a�believer�in�democracy.
900
00:29:31,437 --> 00:29:34,271
Do�you�have�anything�to�ask�me
before�we�go�for�the�rest�of�our
901
00:29:34,272 --> 00:29:35,322
lives?
902
00:29:35,356 --> 00:29:36,441
-Yes.
-What?
903
00:29:36,442 --> 00:29:38,150
Did�you�vote�for�Eric�Adams?
904
00:29:38,151 --> 00:29:41,528
The�only�politician�that�I�will
stand�up�for�every�single�day�is
905
00:29:41,529 --> 00:29:42,989
Andrew�Yang.
906
00:29:43,490 --> 00:29:45,658
Andrew�Yang
907
00:29:45,992 --> 00:29:48,286
[both�in�unison]
What's�not�to�like?
908
00:29:48,828 --> 00:29:50,622
And�that's�our�show.
909
00:29:50,663 --> 00:29:52,582
chime
910
00:29:52,624 --> 00:29:53,958
exciting�music
911
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,711
This�just�in:
rain�is�wet�as�hell!
912
00:29:57,295 --> 00:30:00,673
This�just�in:�studies�show
it�feels�good�to�stress�eat!
913
00:30:00,674 --> 00:30:01,965
And�it's�good�for�you!
914
00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:04,302
Mmm,�salt!
915
00:30:04,303 --> 00:30:05,344
Yum.
916
00:30:05,345 --> 00:30:07,813
This�just�in:�more
pictures�of�Spiderman!
917
00:30:07,814 --> 00:30:12,364
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