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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,167 --> 00:00:01,835 [typing] 2 00:00:06,924 --> 00:00:11,053 [ominous music] 3 00:01:10,279 --> 00:01:13,991 [Sean] Everyone my age kind of just grows up on the internet. 4 00:01:17,494 --> 00:01:19,955 When I think back, I think about, 5 00:01:20,455 --> 00:01:23,208 like, what bullshit I was doing on 4chan, 6 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:25,794 because that's the only... 7 00:01:26,086 --> 00:01:27,212 place that, kind of, seemed real. 8 00:01:31,758 --> 00:01:35,512 Well, this was after I dropped out. 9 00:01:37,097 --> 00:01:39,182 I was so depressed and... 10 00:01:40,142 --> 00:01:42,019 just felt so hopeless, that... 11 00:01:42,352 --> 00:01:44,438 I didn't have the energy to do anything. 12 00:01:44,771 --> 00:01:46,773 I didn't have the energy to talk to anyone. 13 00:01:47,649 --> 00:01:49,693 Uh... 14 00:01:53,905 --> 00:01:58,869 So in a day I'd get up, I'd get something to eat. 15 00:02:00,912 --> 00:02:06,501 It really was just, kind of, sitting in bed and sometimes watching TV, 16 00:02:07,169 --> 00:02:09,671 but other times, it was more like... 17 00:02:10,213 --> 00:02:12,299 [somber music] 18 00:02:12,883 --> 00:02:15,552 ...I don't know, just kind of, looking out the window, 19 00:02:15,969 --> 00:02:19,139 just the normal, really weird depressed shit, 20 00:02:19,598 --> 00:02:22,684 that you find yourself doing and don't really know why. 21 00:02:25,687 --> 00:02:27,272 And when I... 22 00:02:29,441 --> 00:02:32,152 found myself on, like, 4chan and Twitter and stuff like that. 23 00:02:33,820 --> 00:02:37,407 I realized that there was,you know, other people who are, 24 00:02:37,991 --> 00:02:39,993 kind of, going through the same shit... 25 00:02:40,869 --> 00:02:43,622 and not really knowing what to do with their lives, or... 26 00:02:44,706 --> 00:02:47,042 if there actually even is anything to really do with your life, 27 00:02:47,376 --> 00:02:49,252 if you're... kind of, 28 00:02:49,670 --> 00:02:53,048 disassociated and indifferent to a lot of things. 29 00:02:53,882 --> 00:02:55,967 I came to realize that I might be stumbling into something 30 00:02:56,301 --> 00:02:58,345 I find really important. 31 00:02:58,637 --> 00:03:00,972 And it did turn out that way. 32 00:03:01,264 --> 00:03:02,349 [low musical sting] 33 00:03:08,146 --> 00:03:09,731 [fast percussive music] 34 00:03:13,485 --> 00:03:16,446 [newsreader 1] Something ominous is happening to men in America. 35 00:03:16,738 --> 00:03:18,407 Everyone who pays attention knows that. 36 00:03:18,740 --> 00:03:21,076 [newsreader 2] Many millennialsare still struggling financially 37 00:03:21,368 --> 00:03:23,203 especially when compared to past generations. 38 00:03:23,495 --> 00:03:25,205 For the first time in the modern era, 39 00:03:25,497 --> 00:03:27,999 young adults are more likely to live with their parents, 40 00:03:28,458 --> 00:03:29,835 than with a romantic partner. 41 00:03:30,127 --> 00:03:32,212 [newsreader 3] In the 18-to 22-year-old category, 42 00:03:32,504 --> 00:03:35,132 those people scored the highest in terms of loneliness. 43 00:03:35,424 --> 00:03:36,842 [newsreader 4] Is there indication as to why? 44 00:03:37,134 --> 00:03:38,009 [newsreader 5] They seem to be alone, 45 00:03:38,301 --> 00:03:39,428 but they are radicalizing 46 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:40,762 each other in their isolation. 47 00:03:41,972 --> 00:03:45,517 [Trump] Well, I say that it's a very scary time for young men in America. 48 00:03:45,851 --> 00:03:47,227 It's a very difficult time. 49 00:03:47,561 --> 00:03:51,231 Our response is, "Sucks to be you, loser. Unfollow." 50 00:03:51,773 --> 00:03:53,775 You want a friend? Get a gun. 51 00:03:54,109 --> 00:03:55,652 [woman] This is a part of a larger movement, 52 00:03:55,944 --> 00:03:58,238 which is about policing, punishing and persecuting women. 53 00:03:58,572 --> 00:04:00,115 [man] They call themselves The Darkest Reaches 54 00:04:00,407 --> 00:04:02,200 of the Internet, and they're not wrong. 55 00:04:02,743 --> 00:04:04,661 [reporter] Do we even know who is this 4chan? 56 00:04:05,036 --> 00:04:06,204 [with distorted voice] 4chan. 57 00:04:06,496 --> 00:04:07,247 4chan. 58 00:04:08,081 --> 00:04:09,040 4chan. 59 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:11,626 [upbeat music] 60 00:04:22,471 --> 00:04:26,433 [weights thud] 61 00:04:26,725 --> 00:04:27,768 [weights thud] 62 00:04:30,604 --> 00:04:31,396 [weights thud] 63 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:33,565 [typing] 64 00:04:33,857 --> 00:04:37,152 [newsreader] Destroy! Die! Attack! 65 00:04:37,694 --> 00:04:41,031 Threats from a gang of computer hackers calling themselves Anonymous. 66 00:04:41,323 --> 00:04:42,783 I believe they're domestic terrorists. 67 00:04:43,074 --> 00:04:44,451 [car explodes] 68 00:04:45,327 --> 00:04:47,454 [newsreader] Their name comes from their secret website. 69 00:04:48,205 --> 00:04:52,000 It requires anyone posting on the site to remain anonymous. 70 00:04:52,501 --> 00:04:55,170 [with distorted voice] They get laughs. They enjoy doing this. 71 00:04:55,921 --> 00:04:58,840 They get what they call, "LULZ." 72 00:04:59,216 --> 00:05:01,760 [newsreader] LULZ is a corruption of LOL, 73 00:05:02,052 --> 00:05:04,387 which stands for Laugh Out Loud. 74 00:05:04,805 --> 00:05:06,556 [light dramatic music] 75 00:05:20,821 --> 00:05:25,075 [Sean] Bored all the time here in Thornton. 76 00:05:30,497 --> 00:05:35,335 For context, I'm 5'6 and I live in a one-bedroom apartment with my Mom. 77 00:05:37,504 --> 00:05:40,257 [Sean] I wouldn't necessarily say that I prefer the internet 78 00:05:40,924 --> 00:05:43,385 over anything else, it's just... 79 00:05:44,052 --> 00:05:47,222 that's where I felt most was offered to me, 80 00:05:48,139 --> 00:05:49,933 just in every sense. In a social sense, 81 00:05:50,517 --> 00:05:51,893 in an educational sense. 82 00:05:52,185 --> 00:05:54,229 It's like a river, it just does what it wants with you. 83 00:05:54,729 --> 00:05:56,481 [music continues] 84 00:06:00,443 --> 00:06:04,447 [breathes deeply] 85 00:06:09,119 --> 00:06:12,038 [Sean] I did all right in school, like, up until 86 00:06:12,372 --> 00:06:13,582 eighth grade and then I just, 87 00:06:13,957 --> 00:06:15,166 kind of, stopped caring about it. 88 00:06:15,917 --> 00:06:17,794 I skipped classes pretty much every single day, 89 00:06:19,588 --> 00:06:20,672 and I got in trouble a lot, 90 00:06:21,506 --> 00:06:25,093 and then I failed ninth grade. [laughs] 91 00:06:26,636 --> 00:06:27,846 I kind of just dropped off the map. 92 00:06:28,263 --> 00:06:30,807 I dropped out, was going through my own shit. 93 00:06:31,433 --> 00:06:35,061 And since then I've just been a fucking NEET. [chuckles] 94 00:06:35,687 --> 00:06:39,858 [choral music] 95 00:07:02,589 --> 00:07:05,133 [Sean] I mean, back when I was using 4chan, 96 00:07:05,425 --> 00:07:10,430 the people my age were like, dealing with their parents, who were dealing with the economic crash and stuff like that, 97 00:07:10,805 --> 00:07:12,515 and I was like, "Oh, my parents are divorced 98 00:07:12,849 --> 00:07:13,600 and the future that was sold 99 00:07:13,934 --> 00:07:15,393 to me is a complete lie." 100 00:07:15,685 --> 00:07:17,270 So it's like, I'm just going to do nothing instead. 101 00:07:26,488 --> 00:07:31,534 [Sean] r9k is where the most hopeless and autistic and... 102 00:07:33,286 --> 00:07:37,374 miserable people congregate to flirt with their despair. 103 00:07:38,750 --> 00:07:41,962 You have a shitty day and then you make a green text about it 104 00:07:42,671 --> 00:07:45,632 and you can make it as funny or not funny as you want 105 00:07:46,049 --> 00:07:49,219 and then people will call you a faggot or whatever, and then they'll join in. 106 00:07:52,055 --> 00:07:55,183 And it sounds bad when you don't actually take part in it, 107 00:07:55,642 --> 00:07:58,228 but it's actually-- it's some fun when you're 108 00:07:58,520 --> 00:07:59,646 on board, I guess. 109 00:08:00,730 --> 00:08:01,898 You don't feel like it's a habit. 110 00:08:02,273 --> 00:08:04,234 It just, kind of, becomes something you do 111 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,612 and you kind of wonder what you did before. 112 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,202 I mean, this is a very common thing on r9k, where people are saying, 113 00:08:14,577 --> 00:08:16,663 "Alright, today I'm going to kill myself. Do you guys want to tell me anything?" 114 00:08:17,038 --> 00:08:19,624 And then people will say, "Uh, yeah, dude, see you later,” 115 00:08:19,916 --> 00:08:22,877 and stuff like that and just egging them on to do it. 116 00:08:23,169 --> 00:08:25,463 And, I mean, it's funny when it, kind of, starts out, 117 00:08:25,755 --> 00:08:28,174 but you got to think that, "Holy shit. 118 00:08:28,466 --> 00:08:30,051 Maybe some of these guys are actually doing it." 119 00:08:30,343 --> 00:08:31,636 [upbeat music] 120 00:08:33,388 --> 00:08:35,557 [Charels] It's like a love-hate kind of thing, just-- 121 00:08:36,016 --> 00:08:38,059 There's just, like, nothing else like it. 122 00:08:38,351 --> 00:08:40,895 It's pretty much like any addiction or anything. 123 00:08:41,271 --> 00:08:44,941 My phone tells me, like, every week that I spent, like, seven hours a day on it, 124 00:08:45,859 --> 00:08:48,820 so, I've been with-- online so long. 125 00:08:49,112 --> 00:08:50,363 It's just a part of me. 126 00:08:51,823 --> 00:08:54,534 I just tweet my thoughts as it's happening, 127 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,746 which often are really bad and negative, 128 00:08:58,038 --> 00:09:01,708 or the reactions kind of give you a small dopamine rush and-- 129 00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:04,794 Yeah, there's not really much to lose. 130 00:09:05,086 --> 00:09:07,464 Like, I don't really care in a way. 131 00:09:08,798 --> 00:09:11,092 Any publicity is good publicity. 132 00:09:11,801 --> 00:09:15,388 I'd always, kind of, just got those like, suicidal thoughts. 133 00:09:17,974 --> 00:09:20,268 A lot of, like, things risking your life, 134 00:09:20,602 --> 00:09:22,937 like driving really fast or suddenly, like, closing your eyes, 135 00:09:23,229 --> 00:09:25,273 like, while just on the accelerator. 136 00:09:25,565 --> 00:09:28,568 Once it starts happening it-- I just don't even think about it. 137 00:09:29,069 --> 00:09:30,904 My head just kind of, like, clears up, 138 00:09:31,196 --> 00:09:33,948 and my thoughts go away for a minute, which is relaxing 139 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,495 because you can just mess up in a second and it'd all be over. 140 00:09:38,912 --> 00:09:42,540 [music continues] 141 00:09:50,340 --> 00:09:54,260 [train horn] 142 00:09:54,552 --> 00:09:56,638 [train rumbling] 143 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,813 [intense rock music] 144 00:10:07,690 --> 00:10:11,653 [people chattering] 145 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,280 Man, it's kind of messed up around here. 146 00:10:15,365 --> 00:10:17,534 But, you know, it is what it is. 147 00:10:19,494 --> 00:10:22,205 This is our roommate, it's, uh, Mason. 148 00:10:24,207 --> 00:10:26,793 We go way back, right? 149 00:10:28,128 --> 00:10:30,713 See, alcoholic, NEET, 150 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:32,590 spergy, awkward, aggressive, 151 00:10:32,882 --> 00:10:34,425 defensive or distant in conversation. 152 00:10:35,635 --> 00:10:38,054 Torrent most of your downloads and games. 153 00:10:38,346 --> 00:10:40,807 Have passed the point in your life when having potential mattered. 154 00:10:41,266 --> 00:10:43,685 Attempted suicide or have had a mental breakdown. 155 00:10:43,977 --> 00:10:46,062 Sleep over ten hours a night or less than six. 156 00:10:46,855 --> 00:10:49,440 Overcrowded or filthy living conditions. 157 00:10:49,732 --> 00:10:52,277 Diagnosed autism, anxiety or depression. 158 00:10:52,902 --> 00:10:54,863 Masturbate at least once a day. 159 00:10:55,155 --> 00:10:56,948 Less than ten happy memories in the past year. 160 00:10:57,866 --> 00:11:00,618 Virgin. Fired from a job or a drop out. 161 00:11:01,244 --> 00:11:02,662 Have been arrested. 162 00:11:03,788 --> 00:11:05,665 Let's see. How many bingos? 163 00:11:06,457 --> 00:11:08,334 That's a bingo. 164 00:11:09,335 --> 00:11:10,461 Oh, that one's close. 165 00:11:12,088 --> 00:11:13,506 [light dramatic music] 166 00:11:18,928 --> 00:11:22,223 Specifically the rule is, you can't make a post 167 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,477 if anyone's made a post with the same exact, like, content. 168 00:11:27,312 --> 00:11:30,732 Like, it has to be completely unique every single time 169 00:11:31,107 --> 00:11:33,860 and an easy way to have a unique post 170 00:11:34,152 --> 00:11:36,529 was people talking really frankly about, like, 171 00:11:36,821 --> 00:11:38,990 personal stories or personal problems, 172 00:11:40,533 --> 00:11:44,037 and that sort of, set the tone for the community. 173 00:11:45,747 --> 00:11:46,706 Stuff like this. 174 00:11:58,426 --> 00:12:00,803 Really just, like, an infinite supply of this shit. 175 00:12:01,471 --> 00:12:04,307 It's funny how it worked out, that, um, Wojak kind of, 176 00:12:05,058 --> 00:12:10,271 remained like an insular part of the communities. 177 00:12:12,398 --> 00:12:15,276 What's more popular nowadays is kind of, like, 178 00:12:15,652 --> 00:12:17,445 the permutations of them. 179 00:12:19,239 --> 00:12:20,615 But those always come and go. 180 00:12:22,825 --> 00:12:24,202 He still has that same lasting power. 181 00:12:25,036 --> 00:12:27,455 [funky techno music] 182 00:12:31,459 --> 00:12:33,670 I usually wake up around noon. 183 00:12:34,879 --> 00:12:37,298 Take a shower, get dressed and then, um, 184 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,260 just browse Twitter until Charlie gets home. 185 00:12:41,970 --> 00:12:43,304 And then... 186 00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:45,807 whatever he wants to do after that. 187 00:12:48,726 --> 00:12:52,355 We both grew up, not just in the same physical conditions, 188 00:12:52,730 --> 00:12:54,857 but the same digital conditions. So we-- 189 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,944 I think we really understand each other really well. 190 00:13:02,532 --> 00:13:06,411 [Charels] And I lived out, like, in the woods and everything. 191 00:13:07,287 --> 00:13:09,664 There wasn't really anyone our age around. 192 00:13:10,248 --> 00:13:12,292 Nowhere to go. Nothing to do, really. 193 00:13:13,126 --> 00:13:16,129 Our parents were alcoholics, SO... 194 00:13:18,339 --> 00:13:22,010 -They didn't exactly have it together, I guess. -[laughs] No. 195 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,471 [Charels] We kind of just spent a lot of time online. 196 00:13:26,931 --> 00:13:29,892 [Viddy] You know, when you're kind of trapped like that, 197 00:13:30,184 --> 00:13:32,729 I guess, the internet definitely opens up 198 00:13:33,730 --> 00:13:36,816 avenues that wouldn't otherwise be present. 199 00:13:38,067 --> 00:13:42,280 You don't really have friends in real life and there's people you can talk to online. 200 00:13:43,281 --> 00:13:47,493 [melancholic music] 201 00:13:51,789 --> 00:13:54,667 [Viddy] I have a lot of problems just, like, speaking in general, 202 00:13:55,043 --> 00:13:56,669 like, it's really hard for me to say much of anything. 203 00:13:57,086 --> 00:13:59,005 I'm pretty quiet, but... 204 00:13:59,672 --> 00:14:02,050 being able to be online and communicate, 205 00:14:02,508 --> 00:14:04,594 like, my thoughts and feelings 206 00:14:04,886 --> 00:14:06,971 in, sort of, a more eloquent way, it-- 207 00:14:07,638 --> 00:14:09,807 It's sort of liberating. 208 00:14:17,774 --> 00:14:19,859 -[vendor] Thank you. -[Viddy] Thank you. 209 00:14:31,913 --> 00:14:34,832 [Viddy] It almost seems like nobody's here. 210 00:14:35,333 --> 00:14:37,335 [melancholic music] 211 00:14:38,294 --> 00:14:40,254 It's the kind of place where... 212 00:14:41,339 --> 00:14:45,426 it's all just, like-- like, strip malls and industrial places 213 00:14:46,094 --> 00:14:48,971 and empty lots, burned down buildings and... 214 00:14:49,305 --> 00:14:51,849 None of them seem like actual places you can go to. 215 00:14:52,433 --> 00:14:54,811 They're-- they're like set pieces. 216 00:14:55,395 --> 00:14:57,271 It's like my background, 217 00:14:57,772 --> 00:15:01,526 but at the same time it's, like, really beautiful in a way. 218 00:15:02,902 --> 00:15:06,364 [melancholic country music] 219 00:15:19,710 --> 00:15:23,965 A lot of people will compare and say, like, 220 00:15:24,257 --> 00:15:26,134 "Stuff online versus stuff in real life." 221 00:15:26,426 --> 00:15:27,844 It-- it is real life. 222 00:15:28,136 --> 00:15:31,097 You can't really decouple the two anymore. 223 00:15:31,973 --> 00:15:35,393 They're-- they're so intertwined, 224 00:15:36,269 --> 00:15:40,648 especially in the formative experiences of people growing up nowadays. 225 00:15:41,107 --> 00:15:43,317 And I feel like... 226 00:15:43,860 --> 00:15:46,362 for kids that are going to be younger than us. 227 00:15:46,654 --> 00:15:49,365 They won't even understand the difference between the two. 228 00:15:57,915 --> 00:16:01,335 [Viddy] Maybe at like 11 or 12 years old, 229 00:16:01,794 --> 00:16:05,006 I somehow stumbled upon 4chan. 230 00:16:05,339 --> 00:16:07,884 That was like a defining moment. 231 00:16:08,259 --> 00:16:14,098 4chan is almost like a zone completely devoid of rules. 232 00:16:15,641 --> 00:16:18,853 Say whatever you want, be whatever you want, do whatever you want. 233 00:16:19,896 --> 00:16:21,439 Just kill every sacred cow. 234 00:16:21,772 --> 00:16:25,443 Just destroy taboos for the sake of being taboos. 235 00:16:26,027 --> 00:16:27,904 [child] ...shall not be destroyed. 236 00:16:28,738 --> 00:16:32,658 [Viddy] And I think we just kind of latched onto that. 237 00:16:34,118 --> 00:16:36,704 But then you also really get into some of the, 238 00:16:37,038 --> 00:16:38,539 like, more dark sides 239 00:16:38,873 --> 00:16:41,542 of just, sort of, human behavior. 240 00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:45,463 [chuckles] A 12 year old should not probably be exposed 241 00:16:45,755 --> 00:16:50,426 to a constant onslaught of, like, gore and extreme pornography. 242 00:16:51,344 --> 00:16:53,721 It does kind of harden you in a way. 243 00:16:54,138 --> 00:16:55,640 [cocks gun] 244 00:16:56,057 --> 00:16:57,808 Just an A-K. It's very classic. 245 00:16:58,476 --> 00:17:01,604 A Mac 11 and 9 millimeter, which is-- 246 00:17:02,522 --> 00:17:03,689 Actually got this 247 00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:06,067 off of a person who was selling it on Twitter. 248 00:17:06,609 --> 00:17:09,403 It's just a cheap AR-15 Lower, but it's got a, uh, 249 00:17:09,904 --> 00:17:12,240 M16A2, like, parts kit on it 250 00:17:12,532 --> 00:17:16,118 and a Cobray 37-millimeter flare launcher. 251 00:17:16,911 --> 00:17:19,372 Well, it just looks cool. [chuckles] 252 00:17:19,997 --> 00:17:22,667 If any e-girls are looking to be emotionally manipulated 253 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:27,088 and/or sexually abused, my DMs are, in fact, open right now. 254 00:17:28,256 --> 00:17:30,299 More, like, depressing or, like misogynistic, 255 00:17:30,591 --> 00:17:32,718 or something there, they do better. 256 00:17:33,427 --> 00:17:34,679 [Viddy] I think for a while, he was, like, 257 00:17:35,012 --> 00:17:37,515 the incel mascot on Twitter, pretty much. 258 00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:50,903 I think his account got locked for a couple of these. 259 00:17:54,198 --> 00:17:57,743 I don't think I would consider myself actually a misogynist. 260 00:17:58,035 --> 00:18:00,705 It's just kind of, like, trolling and everything, just-- 261 00:18:01,372 --> 00:18:04,417 A lot of chicks are actually into it, which is funny. 262 00:18:05,042 --> 00:18:07,336 There had always been the long history of... 263 00:18:08,671 --> 00:18:10,965 using online to, sort of, 264 00:18:11,507 --> 00:18:14,302 get one over on, like, the real world is a joke, like. 265 00:18:15,344 --> 00:18:18,681 -[Charels] I think-- -Where the irony ends and the sincerity begins, 266 00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:23,269 it's almost obscured on purpose, like, as part of the joke. 267 00:18:23,686 --> 00:18:26,772 -[laughing] -[Viddy] Let's see Kyle. 268 00:18:32,445 --> 00:18:34,196 He's got really funny stuff. 269 00:18:36,741 --> 00:18:39,285 [Charels] His cowboy boots or hat is always pictured. 270 00:18:42,163 --> 00:18:45,333 -So... let's see. -[both laugh] 271 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:51,005 [Viddy] People like to over blow the-- like, the really edgy stuff, 272 00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:56,260 but then you get, like-- like, the hilariously heartfelt posts like this. 273 00:18:56,594 --> 00:18:58,804 "All of the treasure in the world has already been taken. 274 00:18:59,096 --> 00:19:00,556 There's no adventure left." 275 00:19:01,098 --> 00:19:02,850 And the reply to it is, um, 276 00:19:03,392 --> 00:19:05,686 "There's a treasure inside each and every one of us.” 277 00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:13,110 Nobody chose to be in this culture with this technology, 278 00:19:13,819 --> 00:19:15,404 with-- in their family situation. 279 00:19:15,780 --> 00:19:19,283 They didn't choose to grow up rich or poor or whatever. 280 00:19:20,117 --> 00:19:22,828 You play the cards you're dealt, 281 00:19:23,537 --> 00:19:26,457 and sometimes they're not good enough. 282 00:19:30,878 --> 00:19:33,506 Still living in fucking La La Land. 283 00:19:35,549 --> 00:19:38,094 Little fantasy world where everything's going to be A-okay. 284 00:19:38,469 --> 00:19:39,512 Everything's going to get all better. 285 00:19:45,601 --> 00:19:47,061 Let me tell you something, buddy. 286 00:19:48,062 --> 00:19:50,314 It's not going to happen, okay? 287 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:54,568 All right, let's check this out. 288 00:19:57,113 --> 00:19:59,407 I was reading some threads last night 289 00:20:00,282 --> 00:20:03,077 More Redditors, more underage kids, more Tumbilr... 290 00:20:05,788 --> 00:20:07,415 white knights and shit. You already know how it is. 291 00:20:09,208 --> 00:20:10,459 They don't know, okay? 292 00:20:11,794 --> 00:20:13,462 They don't get it. [chuckles] 293 00:20:14,171 --> 00:20:16,090 I gotta tell "em. I gotta-- 294 00:20:16,382 --> 00:20:18,300 I gotta school 'em, right now, I'm afraid. 295 00:20:18,926 --> 00:20:20,720 We're in this dual reality. 296 00:20:21,095 --> 00:20:22,805 So, you know, we're trying to keep up this facade. 297 00:20:23,681 --> 00:20:25,808 You know, as society's crumbling around us, 298 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:27,560 as civilization is collapsing, 299 00:20:28,185 --> 00:20:30,354 we're trying to keep up this facade, 300 00:20:30,771 --> 00:20:32,106 that this is what-- you know, all the ha-- 301 00:20:32,398 --> 00:20:33,482 Happy family and the white picket fence, 302 00:20:34,275 --> 00:20:37,194 but that's not... [chuckles] that's on its way out, 303 00:20:37,653 --> 00:20:38,779 I'm afraid. 304 00:20:39,363 --> 00:20:40,114 And I don't know what's coming. 305 00:20:40,448 --> 00:20:41,615 It's going to be probably not very good, 306 00:20:42,116 --> 00:20:43,576 whatever is coming up next. 307 00:20:44,744 --> 00:20:48,622 But women, they-- you know, 308 00:20:49,373 --> 00:20:52,168 they're out there and they're taking the good stuff, okay? 309 00:20:52,460 --> 00:20:56,422 They're getting the 20s, "Hot guy, hot guy, hot guy, hot guy, oh, this is great, 310 00:20:56,797 --> 00:20:59,091 hot guy, date a hot guy, fuck a hot guy,” over and over again, 311 00:20:59,508 --> 00:21:01,761 you know, they love it, because they can just-- 312 00:21:02,511 --> 00:21:04,388 They're on Tinder. Hot-- you know, they're 313 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,182 finding the hot guys, they're fucking "em. 314 00:21:06,724 --> 00:21:08,142 And you're sitting here to yourself, 315 00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:10,686 "Oh, If I'd just hit a new PR on my bench. 316 00:21:11,395 --> 00:21:13,814 If I'd just buy that new suit, 317 00:21:14,148 --> 00:21:16,984 if I'd just,” you know, you're playing catch-up, 318 00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:21,071 you're trying to catch up and you're trying to be something, 319 00:21:21,572 --> 00:21:25,242 but you... [chuckles] you've already lost. 320 00:21:25,618 --> 00:21:28,078 You've already failed, you know what I mean? 321 00:21:28,871 --> 00:21:31,499 [somber music] 322 00:21:38,047 --> 00:21:40,466 [engine starts] 323 00:21:41,258 --> 00:21:43,177 [muffled gentle music] 324 00:21:47,598 --> 00:21:47,973 [music plays] 325 00:21:57,983 --> 00:22:02,571 ♪ Oh, I've got heartaches by the number ♪ 326 00:22:03,656 --> 00:22:06,659 ♪ Troubles by the score ♪ 327 00:22:07,535 --> 00:22:10,704 ♪ Every day you love me less ♪ 328 00:22:12,248 --> 00:22:15,334 [blues music] 329 00:22:35,896 --> 00:22:39,191 [beeping] 330 00:22:52,288 --> 00:22:55,499 [Kyle] I don't know what the average person is looking forward to. 331 00:22:56,709 --> 00:22:59,420 Maybe they got plans, I-- I don't know. 332 00:23:02,381 --> 00:23:05,551 I was a real fucking bastard when I was a little kid, man. 333 00:23:08,053 --> 00:23:10,556 I remember, uh, I'd go to school and, 334 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,727 like, some classes were taught, like, half in Spanish, 335 00:23:15,102 --> 00:23:18,022 which, it was fucking insane. I didn't speak Spanish, 336 00:23:18,355 --> 00:23:20,065 but, you know, it-- I mean, it was fucking El Paso, 337 00:23:20,399 --> 00:23:22,318 pretty much everyone there does. 338 00:23:22,860 --> 00:23:26,739 I-- I used to hide in the garage, like... 339 00:23:28,616 --> 00:23:30,743 you know, I'd just fucking sit in there with my-- 340 00:23:31,201 --> 00:23:33,454 Whatever the goddamn video game was back then. 341 00:23:35,497 --> 00:23:37,583 I mean, I remember being pulled out, I remember the day, 342 00:23:38,125 --> 00:23:39,293 but after that... 343 00:23:40,377 --> 00:23:46,133 I just remember she said we were going to home school. It didn't work. 344 00:23:46,675 --> 00:23:49,595 We pretty much everyone just gave up on it. 345 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:55,559 I just talk to people on there, really. 346 00:23:55,976 --> 00:23:57,061 Make dumb posts. 347 00:23:58,896 --> 00:24:00,439 Just whatever comes to mind. 348 00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:03,609 Just good to... 349 00:24:05,194 --> 00:24:07,071 [sighs] It's good to talk to people. 350 00:24:07,947 --> 00:24:09,490 And it's not ideal, but... 351 00:24:10,032 --> 00:24:11,283 it's better than nothing I guess. 352 00:24:13,577 --> 00:24:15,746 Like a lot of-- a lot of the guys 353 00:24:16,038 --> 00:24:18,290 on-- on that side of Twitter, like, 354 00:24:18,582 --> 00:24:20,376 they talk about being lonely. 355 00:24:21,001 --> 00:24:22,670 But they also talk about, like, 356 00:24:23,253 --> 00:24:24,838 you know, hating being around people. 357 00:24:26,340 --> 00:24:28,133 One, two, three! 358 00:24:28,425 --> 00:24:31,345 [all] ♪ Happy birthday to you & 359 00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:35,432 ♪ Happy birthday to you & 360 00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:39,561 ♪ Happy birthday... & 361 00:24:40,980 --> 00:24:43,357 [Kyle] What's making these people the way they are? 362 00:24:43,649 --> 00:24:45,567 These young men. You can't just-- 363 00:24:46,235 --> 00:24:48,654 Like, I can't just put it into a sentence, you know? 364 00:24:49,571 --> 00:24:51,407 I don't even know what it is. It's just... 365 00:24:52,324 --> 00:24:54,034 everything that's happening. 366 00:24:57,371 --> 00:24:59,623 I can see a police car all the way from out here. 367 00:24:59,915 --> 00:25:01,417 You see those red and blue lights... 368 00:25:02,209 --> 00:25:03,293 flashing? 369 00:25:04,336 --> 00:25:06,255 [somber music] 370 00:25:12,803 --> 00:25:16,432 I mean, I don't know not-- not the people I know, 371 00:25:16,724 --> 00:25:19,810 but anyone that's lonely and angry like that. 372 00:25:21,145 --> 00:25:23,897 It's completely possible that they'll-- they'll do something, 373 00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:25,315 something they shouldn't, in the end. 374 00:25:27,276 --> 00:25:29,611 I-- I knew four people that I was really close with. 375 00:25:30,904 --> 00:25:33,449 I had one friend, two years ago now, I think, 376 00:25:34,116 --> 00:25:35,159 and he OD'd. 377 00:25:36,618 --> 00:25:37,703 And then I had another one. 378 00:25:39,496 --> 00:25:40,748 Yeah, this was just a couple months ago. 379 00:25:41,123 --> 00:25:42,916 He just fucking gunned it into a wall, 380 00:25:43,792 --> 00:25:45,127 in his car and he died, he-- 381 00:25:45,461 --> 00:25:47,004 He split his head open. He was dead. 382 00:25:48,714 --> 00:25:49,882 And... 383 00:25:50,257 --> 00:25:51,967 there was another one that just happened. 384 00:25:53,385 --> 00:25:54,928 I don't want to talk about that. 385 00:26:03,062 --> 00:26:08,692 I mean... that was like my last... friend. 386 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,821 I mean, I've always felt lonely, but now I'm really... 387 00:26:14,406 --> 00:26:16,200 really alone, you know? 388 00:26:17,618 --> 00:26:19,536 [mariachi music] 389 00:26:34,968 --> 00:26:39,181 [singing in Spanish] 390 00:26:46,563 --> 00:26:48,398 I'm tired of just wallowing 391 00:26:48,941 --> 00:26:51,318 with a bunch of other miserable fucking guys. 392 00:26:52,236 --> 00:26:55,197 What's the point? There's no point. 393 00:26:55,614 --> 00:26:56,740 You... 394 00:26:57,199 --> 00:27:02,371 you can either try and get your shit together or you'll-- you'll fucking die. You'll waste away. 395 00:27:10,963 --> 00:27:12,756 ♪ The day ♪ 396 00:27:13,048 --> 00:27:14,258 [Kyle] It seems like, 397 00:27:14,925 --> 00:27:16,969 even before, I had it better, you know? 398 00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:20,222 Had more to work for. 399 00:27:21,974 --> 00:27:24,143 ♪ No one...♪ 400 00:27:24,768 --> 00:27:27,688 [Kyle] I mean, my parents are well into their 50s 401 00:27:28,063 --> 00:27:31,150 and they don't own a house or a car or anything 402 00:27:31,650 --> 00:27:33,610 and that's just kind of fucked up to me. It's like-- 403 00:27:33,986 --> 00:27:36,905 You can't-- it's hard--you just can't do anything NOW. 404 00:27:37,322 --> 00:27:40,367 [music continues] 405 00:27:42,828 --> 00:27:44,413 It's harder to build a life. 406 00:27:44,746 --> 00:27:49,126 ♪ Promise to sail with me to Mexico ♪ 407 00:27:52,254 --> 00:27:55,215 ♪ If to your open window I... ♪ 408 00:27:55,716 --> 00:27:58,844 [Kyle] I think, "Shit, where am I going to be in 20 years?" 409 00:28:00,596 --> 00:28:03,849 ♪ Tell me she'll wait for my deepest love ♪ 410 00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:07,060 ♪ This dream ♪ 411 00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:09,479 [Kyle] I don't know I gotta get my shit together, I gotta-- 412 00:28:10,898 --> 00:28:13,775 I gotta work on my education. I need to... 413 00:28:16,278 --> 00:28:17,529 Yeah, I need t-- 414 00:28:18,822 --> 00:28:21,283 I need to, you know, set myself up for my future. 415 00:28:22,034 --> 00:28:23,619 [song continues] 416 00:28:23,952 --> 00:28:26,246 ♪ Oh, my darling, I pray ♪ 417 00:28:27,998 --> 00:28:31,960 ♪ That you love me forever ♪ 418 00:28:33,170 --> 00:28:37,966 ♪ And go with me Oh, my beloved [ 419 00:28:38,508 --> 00:28:42,262 ♪ Down to Mexico ♪ 420 00:28:42,638 --> 00:28:45,807 - I didn't vote. I don't believe in democracy. -Okay. 421 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,936 You know, I believe in Thule, the ancient city, 422 00:28:49,353 --> 00:28:51,563 and raising Thule. And I think that Trump 423 00:28:51,939 --> 00:28:54,066 is the candidate who's going to raise Thule 424 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:55,192 and Atlantis. 425 00:28:55,567 --> 00:28:56,401 I believe in global cooling. 426 00:28:56,693 --> 00:28:57,945 Cooling the Earth. The sea low-- 427 00:28:58,403 --> 00:29:02,074 The sea level is lowering, and I believe in land raising 428 00:29:02,407 --> 00:29:04,952 from the bottom of the ocean with ancient ruins on it, 429 00:29:05,244 --> 00:29:06,578 like the ruins of Thule, 430 00:29:07,162 --> 00:29:08,580 and I believe that Trump's going to accomplish all of that. 431 00:29:09,289 --> 00:29:12,084 -How? -He's going to prove that UFOs exist. 432 00:29:12,501 --> 00:29:14,503 The government has known about it for a long time. 433 00:29:14,836 --> 00:29:17,005 They've known that the UFOs are out there 434 00:29:17,381 --> 00:29:19,716 and that they're trying to communicate with us and that they have 435 00:29:20,008 --> 00:29:22,135 secrets about the origins of human consciousness. 436 00:29:22,678 --> 00:29:25,305 Are you familiar with the philosopher Fried rich Schelling? 437 00:29:26,223 --> 00:29:28,558 He predicted it a long time ago. 438 00:29:29,142 --> 00:29:32,771 Trump is going to make German idealism real. 439 00:29:33,313 --> 00:29:35,774 -He's going to complete the system. -Can someone do that? 440 00:29:36,108 --> 00:29:37,776 -[people chattering] -He's a German idealist! 441 00:29:38,068 --> 00:29:40,737 -Are you, um, are you from New York? -No, I'm not from New York. 442 00:29:41,405 --> 00:29:43,240 Are you-- uh, how old are you? 443 00:29:44,283 --> 00:29:46,118 -I can't say. I can't say. -You look really young. Are you-- 444 00:29:46,493 --> 00:29:48,245 -I'm eternal. -Have you been to-- have you been to college? 445 00:29:49,329 --> 00:29:50,455 -You should go. -I'm not in college. 446 00:29:51,081 --> 00:29:51,665 I just want everyone to know. 447 00:29:51,957 --> 00:29:53,166 Everyone needs to be aware. 448 00:29:53,667 --> 00:29:55,585 Go off the fucking PERC learning, fine. 449 00:29:55,877 --> 00:29:58,088 -He's a fascist, that's the most important thing. -[unintelligible shouting] 450 00:29:58,422 --> 00:30:00,674 -We don't need books! -The eye convinces the eye! 451 00:30:01,508 --> 00:30:03,302 -Burn the books! Burn the books! -[laughing] 452 00:30:04,469 --> 00:30:06,430 -We don't need democracy! -[unintelligible shouting] 453 00:30:06,722 --> 00:30:09,474 [guy] We are the alt-right, we got-—- we got Trump elected. 454 00:30:10,267 --> 00:30:13,562 We got Trump Elected. Follow me on Twitter. 455 00:30:13,895 --> 00:30:16,857 -Have a great night. -[woman laughing] 456 00:30:17,399 --> 00:30:20,277 [upbeat music] 457 00:30:37,419 --> 00:30:39,379 [Kant] I think people are, like, uncomfortable 458 00:30:39,671 --> 00:30:41,173 not really knowing, like, what I believe. 459 00:30:42,591 --> 00:30:45,427 And that they want me to be, like, more sincere 460 00:30:45,719 --> 00:30:47,304 and they're like-- they don't, like, like irony, 461 00:30:47,637 --> 00:30:50,474 they don't like trying to, like, cloak or, like, 462 00:30:50,766 --> 00:30:52,392 conceal, like, what you believe or like, 463 00:30:52,809 --> 00:30:55,312 you know, fold into different layers of meaning. 464 00:30:55,812 --> 00:30:58,315 Some people just aren't clear, like, interpreting stuff like that, 465 00:30:58,774 --> 00:31:00,734 or, like, can't just like, appreciate it for what it is. 466 00:31:01,026 --> 00:31:02,903 So, it just, like, bothers them. 467 00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:11,787 Well... 468 00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:16,333 You know, TFW no girlfriend is just like, it's--That's all it is it's just a meme. 469 00:31:18,877 --> 00:31:21,922 So, you can't make a movie about, like, just a meme. 470 00:31:22,339 --> 00:31:25,050 It's that you have to look below the surface. 471 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,929 Well, there's a, you know, a dichotomy. You can't talk 472 00:31:29,221 --> 00:31:31,014 about Wojak without talking about, like, Pepe, 473 00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:33,308 because they-- they go together. 474 00:31:33,725 --> 00:31:34,768 That's the duality of man. 475 00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:37,229 Is that you have the Pepe and you have the Wojak 476 00:31:38,146 --> 00:31:40,232 and the Pepe is sort of like, you know, it's your troll self. 477 00:31:41,149 --> 00:31:43,527 It's your, you know, public persona and it's, like, 478 00:31:43,985 --> 00:31:47,030 you being cocky and he's saying all this crazy shit, 479 00:31:47,322 --> 00:31:50,492 and being smug and being ironic and, you know, getting under people's skins 480 00:31:50,867 --> 00:31:52,911 and, sort of, being cool about things. 481 00:31:53,245 --> 00:31:54,913 But then on the other half, we all have the Wojak, 482 00:31:55,372 --> 00:31:56,998 which is like our private selves, 483 00:31:57,791 --> 00:32:00,419 who, you know, isn't like that at all. 484 00:32:00,710 --> 00:32:01,795 Who's like, very depressed. 485 00:32:02,379 --> 00:32:03,630 Who feels, like, inadequate. 486 00:32:04,297 --> 00:32:08,218 Who, you know, can't fulfill his own goals. 487 00:32:09,386 --> 00:32:13,598 Who, you know, has all these feelings that he can't manage. 488 00:32:17,978 --> 00:32:21,106 This is like what social media is helping... to create. 489 00:32:21,481 --> 00:32:24,067 It's like the fragmentation of our-- our personalities. 490 00:32:24,568 --> 00:32:26,903 So, when you go online and you're trolling you-- you're the Pepe, 491 00:32:27,195 --> 00:32:30,157 but really, inside you're the Wojak that nobody-- 492 00:32:30,449 --> 00:32:31,950 Nobody really knows about. 493 00:32:32,993 --> 00:32:35,328 So, we can all become Wojak 494 00:32:35,829 --> 00:32:37,372 in like-- in our moments of desperation. 495 00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:40,083 You know, he represents when we feel like we're nothing. 496 00:32:40,459 --> 00:32:42,711 [funky music] 497 00:32:52,220 --> 00:32:55,140 [Kant] I didn't know that anyone would, like, care about, like, what I have to say. 498 00:32:55,932 --> 00:32:58,143 I-- like, I didn't presume to think that, like, anyone would. 499 00:32:58,977 --> 00:33:01,646 So, as I went along. 500 00:33:02,647 --> 00:33:04,941 You know, I found out more and more that like, 501 00:33:05,525 --> 00:33:07,736 what I was saying, like, resonated with-- with people, 502 00:33:08,069 --> 00:33:09,154 and, like, I mean, that was surprising to me, 503 00:33:09,446 --> 00:33:17,078 but it wasn't like I was driven by, like, an anger, at like, what was going on, it was just more of like, apathy. 504 00:33:18,163 --> 00:33:20,540 It's like tiredness. 505 00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:25,003 -Do they still read Fried rich Schlegel? -[shop assistant] I think so! 506 00:33:26,922 --> 00:33:28,798 There's this guy, Fried rich Schlegel, 507 00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:31,510 and his main, 508 00:33:32,677 --> 00:33:35,096 you Know, the literary form that he worked in was the aphorism. 509 00:33:35,764 --> 00:33:37,349 So he worked in the fragment. 510 00:33:37,933 --> 00:33:40,477 You know, he only wrote [-- like, a single paragraph at a time. 511 00:33:40,769 --> 00:33:42,646 He just published books of just, like, one paragraph, or like, 512 00:33:42,938 --> 00:33:44,773 one sentence, like, observations about things, 513 00:33:45,065 --> 00:33:46,483 like, reviews of books or something, 514 00:33:47,067 --> 00:33:49,486 and he, you know, founded like, 515 00:33:49,778 --> 00:33:51,780 all modern, like, literary theory by doing-- 516 00:33:52,322 --> 00:33:53,823 And like, that's what like a tweet is. Just because, 517 00:33:54,115 --> 00:33:55,325 like, a tweet is, like, small... 518 00:33:56,076 --> 00:33:57,869 and seems, like, incidental, I mean, that's-- 519 00:33:58,161 --> 00:33:59,913 Doesn't mean that doesn't have a literary potential in there. 520 00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:03,250 I'm not saying that every tweet recognizes that potential, 521 00:34:04,209 --> 00:34:04,918 but... 522 00:34:06,253 --> 00:34:08,880 if you're going to be doing them, like, you should try to,like, elevate it somehow, 523 00:34:09,256 --> 00:34:12,509 just something like, more interesting, funny, you know, observant, insightful. 524 00:34:13,426 --> 00:34:14,803 And there is a lot of potential there. 525 00:34:17,931 --> 00:34:19,432 If you went back to, like, I don't know, like, 526 00:34:19,724 --> 00:34:21,434 2011 or 2012, it's like, you know, 527 00:34:21,851 --> 00:34:23,603 I wanted to be a writer. 528 00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:27,649 But you have all these questions about what are you going to do? 529 00:34:28,233 --> 00:34:31,236 It's like, you have to go through, like, the publishing industry 530 00:34:31,611 --> 00:34:34,239 and you have to get, like, an agent, there's like, all these... 531 00:34:35,407 --> 00:34:39,077 you know, stipulations where, you know, I have to kowtow to 532 00:34:40,328 --> 00:34:42,956 other people's opinions or I have to, like, put on a face 533 00:34:43,331 --> 00:34:45,625 and pretend that like, I agree, it's like, 534 00:34:46,167 --> 00:34:48,211 you know, I just want to be, like, controversial and like, 535 00:34:48,503 --> 00:34:50,130 do whatever the fuck I want to do and like... 536 00:34:51,214 --> 00:34:52,549 I have to find, like, something else. 537 00:34:52,841 --> 00:34:54,259 I have to find, like, a different way. 538 00:34:55,135 --> 00:34:56,469 I mean, I don't even think I like found it. 539 00:34:56,761 --> 00:34:58,930 I think, like, I made it and like other people made it. 540 00:34:59,973 --> 00:35:01,141 Good evening everyone. 541 00:35:01,725 --> 00:35:02,851 Welcome to the Tekwar podcast. 542 00:35:03,977 --> 00:35:06,771 This is the official podcast of The Tekwars Fan Network. 543 00:35:07,939 --> 00:35:09,608 Tonight we have a very special guest. 544 00:35:09,983 --> 00:35:11,359 His name is Egg White. 545 00:35:12,402 --> 00:35:14,112 [Egg White] I'm glad to be speaking to such a prestigious 546 00:35:14,404 --> 00:35:15,614 man as yourself, myself. 547 00:35:16,197 --> 00:35:18,158 You have to make the space that you want in the world, 548 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:19,743 it's like-- it's not going to be given to you. 549 00:35:21,036 --> 00:35:23,038 [gentle music] 550 00:35:24,831 --> 00:35:27,125 In a lot of ways I'm not that close to, like, my family. 551 00:35:28,168 --> 00:35:30,837 So the idea of, like, belonging to this, like, little community 552 00:35:31,921 --> 00:35:34,466 and you all work together and can create, like, this historical moment, 553 00:35:35,258 --> 00:35:38,136 which can, like, transcend the limitations of like, your era. 554 00:35:38,845 --> 00:35:41,264 And then create, like, a whole new way of thinking about things. 555 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,141 You can create a whole new form of consciousness. 556 00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:46,686 And that's what I've, like, always, you know, 557 00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:48,188 wanted to feel with, like, other people. 558 00:35:49,439 --> 00:35:51,441 [girl] You're surrounded by this negative energy, dude. 559 00:36:53,211 --> 00:36:57,465 [rock music continues] 560 00:37:07,350 --> 00:37:10,353 Yeah, I would identify as part of a subculture, 561 00:37:10,979 --> 00:37:14,774 but it's very vague, I guess, where it's just... 562 00:37:17,026 --> 00:37:19,446 a bunch of young guys 563 00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:23,158 who have been raised with complete... 564 00:37:25,243 --> 00:37:27,912 anonymity, like, their whole lives, 565 00:37:28,288 --> 00:37:30,582 and they've made some use of it. 566 00:37:31,166 --> 00:37:33,084 A lot of people have made a lot of use of it, 567 00:37:33,501 --> 00:37:37,380 myself included, uh... but it's just kind of... 568 00:37:39,424 --> 00:37:41,384 People who are existing between the cracks. 569 00:37:42,635 --> 00:37:44,763 [gentle techno music] 570 00:37:48,683 --> 00:37:50,185 So, yeah, it's definitely mostly dudes. 571 00:37:50,477 --> 00:37:51,644 It's like 95% dudes. 572 00:37:53,897 --> 00:37:57,525 Most people on 4chan are dudes, because it's completely anonymous, 573 00:37:58,067 --> 00:38:00,737 and because you can say anything you want. 574 00:38:01,821 --> 00:38:04,491 A lot of guys feel pressured to not say things they think about. 575 00:38:05,074 --> 00:38:07,786 Practically anything that you could say about 576 00:38:08,203 --> 00:38:11,456 your position as a man is, kind of, alm-- it's almost like taboo. 577 00:38:12,874 --> 00:38:14,959 People like, get angry at you for saying 578 00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:17,128 you have your own trials and tribulations, as a guy. 579 00:38:19,005 --> 00:38:21,633 It's an outlet, but it's also... 580 00:38:22,217 --> 00:38:24,677 it's also constructive in a few ways, I think. 581 00:38:26,513 --> 00:38:29,933 People think they want {0 see just complete turmoil 582 00:38:30,225 --> 00:38:32,477 at every given opportunity. 583 00:38:35,563 --> 00:38:39,859 They're right to think that it's like, super toxic and not inviting, 584 00:38:40,860 --> 00:38:44,572 but I think the biggest misconception is that, 585 00:38:44,948 --> 00:38:47,283 they're doing it for reasons other than fun. 586 00:38:49,744 --> 00:38:51,955 [Viddy] What the punks would do, is they'd have-- 587 00:38:52,288 --> 00:38:54,207 They'd have concerts and they'd drink 588 00:38:54,666 --> 00:38:57,085 and they'd break shit and they'd get into fights. 589 00:38:59,170 --> 00:39:01,548 People of this demographic, they have-- 590 00:39:02,215 --> 00:39:03,550 They have the digital world, SO... 591 00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:08,137 because maybe they can't do those things in the physical world. 592 00:39:14,143 --> 00:39:16,771 Sean and me go pretty far back. 593 00:39:17,438 --> 00:39:22,193 He was one of, like, the first couple of friends I made on-- on Twitter. 594 00:39:23,736 --> 00:39:27,824 Just like regular stuff, like, both our physical home lives are kind of... 595 00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:30,618 kind of messed up, I guess, but... 596 00:39:32,036 --> 00:39:35,874 we're both able to see the way that, like, 597 00:39:36,457 --> 00:39:38,877 this world doesn't quite understand, 598 00:39:39,544 --> 00:39:43,506 uh, people in our specific demographic yet. 599 00:39:45,341 --> 00:39:48,636 I mean, that sounds so corny to say, but... 600 00:39:49,888 --> 00:39:51,639 you know, the rest of the world doesn't really 601 00:39:51,931 --> 00:39:53,057 care that much about you. 602 00:39:56,436 --> 00:39:57,645 [train rumbling] 603 00:40:00,106 --> 00:40:01,441 [drums music] 604 00:40:07,155 --> 00:40:10,909 [gentle rock music] 605 00:40:17,790 --> 00:40:19,834 [Kant] I mean, I do feel lonely a lot. 606 00:40:21,210 --> 00:40:22,462 I mean, even though I have, like, 607 00:40:22,754 --> 00:40:24,297 a lot of people that I'm friends with, 608 00:40:24,589 --> 00:40:25,715 I have tons of people I talk to online, 609 00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:30,303 you know, I still wonder, like, does anyone, like, actually like me? 610 00:40:30,595 --> 00:40:31,471 Like, I have no idea. 611 00:40:33,181 --> 00:40:35,266 You know, are they just saying stuff? Are they just being nice to me? 612 00:40:35,642 --> 00:40:37,894 Like, you know, does anyone know who I really am? 613 00:40:40,146 --> 00:40:41,856 You know, you're surrounded by people, not to sort of, like, 614 00:40:42,148 --> 00:40:43,566 Increase your sense of wealthiness, 615 00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:46,069 because, you know, there's people all around us, 616 00:40:46,361 --> 00:40:47,904 but we're not interacting with them and I was like, 617 00:40:48,363 --> 00:40:49,906 "Who are they? Who fucking knows?" 618 00:40:51,157 --> 00:40:53,076 [music continues] 619 00:40:56,496 --> 00:40:59,332 ♪ Picture me gone ♪ 620 00:40:59,624 --> 00:41:02,293 ♪ Picture me gone picture me gone ♪ 621 00:41:02,669 --> 00:41:05,755 ♪ Picture me gone picture me gone ♪ 622 00:41:06,130 --> 00:41:08,925 ♪ Picture me gone ♪ 623 00:41:09,342 --> 00:41:10,343 ♪ Picture me gone ♪ 624 00:41:10,677 --> 00:41:12,261 [Charels] Life kind of sucks. You're just working, 625 00:41:12,553 --> 00:41:15,139 like, kind of bad jobs. Just, just lonely. 626 00:41:15,431 --> 00:41:18,017 ♪ Picture me gone ♪ 627 00:41:18,559 --> 00:41:21,020 ♪ Picture me gone ♪ 628 00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:24,565 ♪ Picture me gone ♪ 629 00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:35,994 [Kant] When you're a man it's like, you just sort of blend in. 630 00:41:37,453 --> 00:41:39,288 Some days, like, the only people who will talk to you, 631 00:41:39,580 --> 00:41:40,832 is like a cashier or something, 632 00:41:41,332 --> 00:41:42,792 That's what makes you interaction deaf. 633 00:41:50,216 --> 00:41:53,302 A lot of these incels, I think kind of feel like, 634 00:41:53,678 --> 00:41:55,221 they could just go along forever with their lives 635 00:41:55,722 --> 00:41:57,390 and, like, no one will notice them. 636 00:41:58,099 --> 00:42:00,018 Like, they feel, like, just completely abandoned. 637 00:42:03,855 --> 00:42:06,107 People used to, like, graduate from high school 638 00:42:06,524 --> 00:42:08,109 and like, go get a job or whatever and it's-- 639 00:42:08,443 --> 00:42:10,278 You know, things worked out pretty well for them. 640 00:42:10,987 --> 00:42:12,238 But now that's, like, impossible, 641 00:42:12,655 --> 00:42:14,574 you know, you have no experience in anything 642 00:42:15,033 --> 00:42:16,868 and you're from like, a small town background 643 00:42:17,201 --> 00:42:18,619 and you don't have any connections. 644 00:42:19,662 --> 00:42:22,457 So, you just end up, like, back at home and your parents 645 00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:25,376 are like, you know, telling you to go like, apply at McDonald's 646 00:42:25,668 --> 00:42:27,295 or something because it's better than you staying at home. 647 00:42:28,129 --> 00:42:30,214 ♪ Picture me gone ♪ 648 00:42:31,382 --> 00:42:33,176 ♪ Picture me gone ♪ 649 00:42:33,468 --> 00:42:34,969 And you're trying to, like, desperately, like, reach out, 650 00:42:35,344 --> 00:42:37,472 to like different people maybe like online or whatever, 651 00:42:38,181 --> 00:42:40,433 to like try to form connections that you're just, like, 652 00:42:40,767 --> 00:42:42,143 not being able to form in the real world, 653 00:42:43,019 --> 00:42:45,646 because like, by all possible measures, like, you're a failure, 654 00:42:45,980 --> 00:42:47,523 and you're a loser, and you're like embarrassed 655 00:42:47,857 --> 00:42:50,151 about yourself and what you're doing. You don't want to be seen 656 00:42:50,485 --> 00:42:52,236 in public and when you go out in public, like, people 657 00:42:52,528 --> 00:42:53,446 won't even fucking talk to you. 658 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,701 You know, it's not like, a totally crazy experience. 659 00:42:59,327 --> 00:43:00,286 I mean, it's just like, 660 00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:01,829 now, that's like, part of growing up. 661 00:43:07,168 --> 00:43:09,921 [Charels] No, I've never had a girlfriend before. 662 00:43:10,671 --> 00:43:14,092 I'm definitely not good at talking to them, 663 00:43:14,509 --> 00:43:16,135 or really dealing with them at all. 664 00:43:17,053 --> 00:43:18,179 [Viddy] I don't know. 665 00:43:18,513 --> 00:43:19,222 I'm in a predominantly, 666 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,516 sort of, male sphere on the internet. 667 00:43:21,808 --> 00:43:24,435 So there's not quite as much of that. 668 00:43:26,312 --> 00:43:28,106 [Charels] If it happens, it happens. 669 00:43:28,648 --> 00:43:30,483 If it doesn't, it doesn't. You know, it's-- 670 00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:32,527 I don't want to just be in, like... 671 00:43:33,152 --> 00:43:36,239 a relationship just to be in a relationship or anything. 672 00:43:36,656 --> 00:43:38,241 I'd want there to be something. 673 00:43:39,075 --> 00:43:42,036 Um, like, it's less that... 674 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,666 like, not having a girlfriend that's bad and it's more of... 675 00:43:47,542 --> 00:43:51,087 like, just being alienated from everyone else in general. 676 00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:53,422 Not being close to anybody. 677 00:43:55,967 --> 00:43:58,010 [light somber music] 678 00:44:53,441 --> 00:44:55,318 [Viddy] I'm not implying that, like, 679 00:44:55,860 --> 00:44:58,404 girls can't be disaffected, obviously. 680 00:44:59,405 --> 00:45:03,951 But it's so much more prevalent in, like, nerdy young boys, 681 00:45:04,410 --> 00:45:07,663 I guess, to just be cast to the wayside. 682 00:45:08,247 --> 00:45:10,249 Like their feelings aren't really that concerned. 683 00:45:10,791 --> 00:45:15,755 They only really have each other to rely on, pretty much. 684 00:45:22,303 --> 00:45:26,599 [indistinct chattering] 685 00:45:33,773 --> 00:45:34,982 [Charels] I think since I was a kid, I was always, like, 686 00:45:35,274 --> 00:45:38,694 really shy and I guess my social skills too. 687 00:45:39,654 --> 00:45:42,490 It's like, hard to word it, exactly what it is. 688 00:45:44,784 --> 00:45:47,870 There's just some, like, disconnect from, like, being normal people. 689 00:45:52,041 --> 00:45:54,961 I always had, like, a fantasy of, like, kind of wanting to live, like, 690 00:45:55,253 --> 00:45:57,004 out in the woods, build my own house or something, 691 00:45:57,505 --> 00:45:58,923 and kind of just, like, live off the land, 692 00:45:59,257 --> 00:46:01,467 but that's becoming less and less realistic 693 00:46:01,842 --> 00:46:06,555 as society advances and just where my life is going now, but... 694 00:46:10,977 --> 00:46:13,354 -It's good to be trigger-disciplined and-- -Yeah, yeah. 695 00:46:14,272 --> 00:46:15,898 A lot of people just like, think their, like, 696 00:46:16,190 --> 00:46:17,525 future is like predefined, like, 697 00:46:18,025 --> 00:46:19,944 at a super early age, even when it's not, 698 00:46:20,236 --> 00:46:21,946 so they make, like, terrible decisions, like, 699 00:46:22,905 --> 00:46:24,240 oh, just failing all your classes, 700 00:46:24,532 --> 00:46:25,658 never going to school and everything and-- 701 00:46:26,951 --> 00:46:29,161 And you just kind of have to live with those the rest of your life. 702 00:46:29,745 --> 00:46:33,457 [chuckles] I'm gonna blow up some slugs, man! 703 00:46:36,502 --> 00:46:39,297 Oh, these dangerous online people. 704 00:46:40,131 --> 00:46:43,426 Not every person who's posting, like, an Elliot Rodger meme 705 00:46:43,801 --> 00:46:46,470 online is actually going to go shoot somebody. 706 00:46:46,804 --> 00:46:47,763 Like, that's not true. 707 00:46:48,639 --> 00:46:50,308 There's the troll aspect 708 00:46:51,017 --> 00:46:53,436 and then there's the people taking it seriously aspect. 709 00:46:54,270 --> 00:46:56,647 They think, "Okay, what do people hate most?" 710 00:46:56,981 --> 00:46:58,274 And then they just become that, 711 00:46:58,858 --> 00:47:00,609 because it gets a reaction every time. 712 00:47:01,193 --> 00:47:03,404 And then some of them forget that they're playing the character. 713 00:47:04,989 --> 00:47:07,658 The next thing you know, they end up in like a place like Charlottesville. 714 00:47:08,492 --> 00:47:12,455 Obviously, there are people that are so disenfranchised, 715 00:47:12,747 --> 00:47:16,959 so alienated, so demonized in whatever way, 716 00:47:17,918 --> 00:47:21,213 that they feel like their only choice is 717 00:47:21,630 --> 00:47:24,175 to lash out in whatever way they can and-- 718 00:47:24,925 --> 00:47:27,762 I'm not like, excusing that or anything, 719 00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:32,141 but do-- what, that happens for no reason? 720 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,727 Do people, like, really think that? 721 00:47:36,228 --> 00:47:37,396 [Charels] They won't even, like... 722 00:47:38,814 --> 00:47:41,817 think about why these people are doing what they're doing. 723 00:47:42,109 --> 00:47:44,570 They're just so disconnected from it. 724 00:47:44,945 --> 00:47:47,406 They refuse to even, like, acknowledge it. 725 00:47:50,242 --> 00:47:53,371 [Viddy] A lot of these people that are in these communities, 726 00:47:53,662 --> 00:47:55,873 they feel like they're not good enough, you know? 727 00:47:57,500 --> 00:47:59,502 They don't have like a-- some kind of 728 00:48:00,002 --> 00:48:01,879 talent or skill, or something that's, 729 00:48:02,338 --> 00:48:05,800 like, widely respected, but they're able to go online 730 00:48:06,092 --> 00:48:09,387 and do these things and be appreciated for what they're doing. 731 00:48:09,929 --> 00:48:11,305 [chuckles] 732 00:48:12,181 --> 00:48:14,934 [Viddy] There's the-- the mischievous aspects, 733 00:48:15,393 --> 00:48:18,562 but it's definitely majorly about community. 734 00:48:21,357 --> 00:48:23,859 I mean, it does feel good to make someone with, like, 735 00:48:24,151 --> 00:48:25,903 100,000 followers look like a fucking idiot. 736 00:48:26,445 --> 00:48:31,117 That-- that will never change, but it's not about doing that. 737 00:48:31,492 --> 00:48:34,370 It's about showing your friends that you did it, right? 738 00:48:34,870 --> 00:48:36,288 The next one will be great. 739 00:48:36,580 --> 00:48:37,331 I promise you. 740 00:48:38,124 --> 00:48:38,707 [rock music] 741 00:48:39,125 --> 00:48:41,001 [gunshots] 742 00:48:52,138 --> 00:48:53,472 [cocks gun] 743 00:48:53,889 --> 00:48:55,224 [gunshots] 744 00:48:59,728 --> 00:49:01,147 [gunshots continue] 745 00:49:04,692 --> 00:49:05,526 [cocks gun] 746 00:49:08,821 --> 00:49:10,364 [gunshots] 747 00:49:12,074 --> 00:49:13,617 [cocks gun] 748 00:49:16,454 --> 00:49:17,955 [gunshots] 749 00:49:25,588 --> 00:49:29,800 [gunshots continue] 750 00:49:37,183 --> 00:49:41,437 [rock music continues] 751 00:49:50,738 --> 00:49:51,947 -[Charels] I think I got the computer a little. -[Viddy] Oh, yeah? 752 00:50:09,423 --> 00:50:13,469 [soft music] 753 00:50:17,306 --> 00:50:19,099 [Kyle] Sure, people just come here to get drunk. 754 00:50:20,226 --> 00:50:21,310 I respect that. 755 00:50:30,653 --> 00:50:31,320 It's lit. 756 00:50:36,450 --> 00:50:38,994 I mean, the whole incel thing it's not-- 757 00:50:40,496 --> 00:50:41,997 You know, the news stories about, you know, 758 00:50:42,331 --> 00:50:44,833 "Incels, they're killing people.” 759 00:50:45,417 --> 00:50:46,544 It's just dumb shit like that. 760 00:50:47,586 --> 00:50:49,755 You know, they act like it's this fucking group that's 761 00:50:50,631 --> 00:50:53,217 conspiring to, I don't know, hate on women. 762 00:50:55,010 --> 00:50:57,680 And, you know, it's just a bunch of fucking dudes killing time. 763 00:50:59,890 --> 00:51:01,850 This place is fucked. 764 00:51:06,146 --> 00:51:07,940 You know, look at misogyny on Twitter. 765 00:51:08,274 --> 00:51:10,025 It's like anything else on Twitter, fucking, 766 00:51:11,068 --> 00:51:13,696 saying the N-word or anything else. 767 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,365 It's just funny because it is. It makes people mad, 768 00:51:16,949 --> 00:51:21,620 and the people that get mad about fucking tweets 769 00:51:22,329 --> 00:51:26,625 are fucking retards, so it's funny to make them mad. 770 00:51:29,211 --> 00:51:31,380 It's the same thing with like-- like, people on Twitter. 771 00:51:32,423 --> 00:51:37,011 They're like, "Oh, fucking SJWs...their PC culture," that-- 772 00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:40,264 I feel like that's just not really real. 773 00:51:41,098 --> 00:51:43,684 I mean, I've never met anyone like that at all. 774 00:51:44,310 --> 00:51:46,186 It might be different for you living in fucking Los Angeles, 775 00:51:46,478 --> 00:51:48,772 but I have lived in Texas pretty much my whole life. 776 00:51:49,857 --> 00:51:50,983 Check that out. 777 00:51:55,529 --> 00:51:58,699 I mean when you came to El Paso, that was a weird fucking time for me. 778 00:51:58,991 --> 00:52:00,659 I was-- I mean, you know, I was going through... 779 00:52:04,163 --> 00:52:06,665 I don't know, I just was feeling really fucking bad. 780 00:52:10,961 --> 00:52:11,712 I mean... 781 00:52:13,297 --> 00:52:16,091 yeah, I just felt pretty fucking miserable at the time. 782 00:52:18,510 --> 00:52:21,013 I look back at that and say, "What the fuck was I doing?" 783 00:52:21,347 --> 00:52:23,682 Like, there's a whole fucking part of my life 784 00:52:24,141 --> 00:52:25,184 that's just this-- 785 00:52:26,018 --> 00:52:29,104 Like, I don't remember being... [sighs] 786 00:52:29,938 --> 00:52:33,817 ...you know, fucking 18, for instance. 787 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,236 It's just fucking gone. 788 00:52:43,702 --> 00:52:45,371 I mean, I'm mostly over that now. 789 00:52:46,789 --> 00:52:50,084 I've just started going out more and doing shit with myself. 790 00:52:51,085 --> 00:52:54,421 I mean, nothing that really matters, you know, going out and drinking whatever. 791 00:52:54,797 --> 00:52:55,798 Shit like that. 792 00:52:56,465 --> 00:52:57,800 That just makes it feel better in general. 793 00:52:58,884 --> 00:53:02,554 Like I said, you know, makes you feel like you're an actual fucking person. 794 00:53:06,517 --> 00:53:07,393 Oh, yeah, sure, man. 795 00:53:10,479 --> 00:53:11,897 As long as you're out of your house you feel 796 00:53:12,272 --> 00:53:13,482 like you're doing something. 797 00:53:21,323 --> 00:53:22,741 I like getting into shit. 798 00:53:24,660 --> 00:53:27,830 Not real trouble, but yeah, sort of. 799 00:53:28,497 --> 00:53:32,084 [light piano music] 800 00:53:35,087 --> 00:53:40,008 ♪ Nightlife offers a way to forget 801 00:53:41,176 --> 00:53:45,764 ♪ But it's only for a while 802 00:53:47,015 --> 00:53:52,813 ♪ So when the partners are all holding & 803 00:53:53,814 --> 00:53:57,985 ♪ I'll make my way to this world ♪ 804 00:53:59,111 --> 00:54:05,200 ♪ I'd like to go some place and start all over ♪ 805 00:54:05,909 --> 00:54:10,372 ♪ But I know it can't be done ♪ 806 00:54:11,498 --> 00:54:17,254 ♪ Run away some place and start all over ♪ 807 00:54:17,963 --> 00:54:22,426 ♪ But without you I can't run 808 00:54:22,718 --> 00:54:24,636 ♪ Can't run ♪ 809 00:54:30,434 --> 00:54:35,856 ♪ With laughing people you will find me ♪ 810 00:54:36,857 --> 00:54:38,859 [Kyle] I still have the fucking scar. 811 00:54:39,568 --> 00:54:41,153 Kind of faded, but... 812 00:54:41,653 --> 00:54:42,821 People like to fuck with me because I'm big, 813 00:54:43,238 --> 00:54:45,616 and like I said, I don't just fucking walk away. 814 00:54:45,908 --> 00:54:47,159 I don't-- I don't fucking take it. I tell 'em 815 00:54:47,451 --> 00:54:48,952 to go fuck themselves and that pisses 'em off, 816 00:54:49,495 --> 00:54:51,371 because I don't think people really expect that. 817 00:54:56,084 --> 00:54:58,170 I grew up in El Paso. That's a Mexican Town. 818 00:54:58,462 --> 00:55:00,297 That's Texas times ten. 819 00:55:01,215 --> 00:55:03,842 They're all about the fucking machismo,man. 820 00:55:07,638 --> 00:55:10,182 [gentle rock music] 821 00:55:22,110 --> 00:55:24,238 [Kyle] I don't know. My Twitter account, it might come across 822 00:55:24,530 --> 00:55:26,490 that I'm, you know, real fucking miserable. 823 00:55:26,907 --> 00:55:27,950 I'm not. 824 00:55:28,951 --> 00:55:30,744 I mean, sometimes I'll feel like 825 00:55:31,161 --> 00:55:32,996 I'm not going anywhere in my life and... 826 00:55:33,831 --> 00:55:35,582 that's not really true honestly, 827 00:55:36,291 --> 00:55:38,502 but sometimes you just feel that way. 828 00:55:40,838 --> 00:55:44,675 ♪ Someone, someone's awake & 829 00:55:46,218 --> 00:55:50,639 ♪ In the city tonight & 830 00:55:51,098 --> 00:55:54,434 ♪ You gotta do what's right ♪ 831 00:55:55,102 --> 00:55:58,105 ♪ In the city tonight & 832 00:56:00,107 --> 00:56:02,985 ♪ Someone's alone ♪ 833 00:56:06,405 --> 00:56:09,283 [Kyle] I think a lot of people feel fucking isolated 834 00:56:10,158 --> 00:56:12,202 and like there's nowhere to go in life. 835 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,707 ♪ Reach out your hands to the one below ♪ 836 00:56:17,416 --> 00:56:19,501 And, you know, so they just say, "Fuck it." 837 00:56:20,127 --> 00:56:22,588 And live really poorly, you know, fucking, 838 00:56:23,422 --> 00:56:25,507 take drugs, drink all the fucking time, 839 00:56:26,383 --> 00:56:29,386 and just fucking overdose, or drink themselves to death. 840 00:56:32,848 --> 00:56:35,601 Or just, you know, fucking kill themselves outright. 841 00:56:37,853 --> 00:56:40,105 [light rock music] 842 00:56:40,564 --> 00:56:43,233 When there's, uh, less going on for you in the first place, 843 00:56:43,817 --> 00:56:46,069 it's easier to just say, "Fuck it," you know? 844 00:56:52,451 --> 00:56:56,538 [train rattling] 845 00:57:03,170 --> 00:57:04,671 I mean, people just want to tell, like, 846 00:57:05,297 --> 00:57:07,007 their stories about different things. 847 00:57:08,133 --> 00:57:09,927 So I get a lot of messages there of like 848 00:57:10,302 --> 00:57:11,428 really crazy stuff. 849 00:57:12,971 --> 00:57:15,515 Of like, people telling me these really-- their long stories, 850 00:57:16,475 --> 00:57:18,060 about what's happened to them in their life 851 00:57:18,352 --> 00:57:19,436 and I get people, like... 852 00:57:22,105 --> 00:57:24,650 messaging me about, like, their abuse that they've had, 853 00:57:24,942 --> 00:57:26,902 or, you know, they're in a bad relationship, 854 00:57:27,945 --> 00:57:30,739 or, you know, they don't have any friends to talk to. 855 00:57:32,866 --> 00:57:35,619 I mean, I don't feel very qualified to give people advice. 856 00:57:39,623 --> 00:57:40,958 I mostly just tell them to, 857 00:57:41,583 --> 00:57:43,251 you know, I just try and do-- listen to people. 858 00:57:43,794 --> 00:57:46,171 [train rumbles] 859 00:57:47,214 --> 00:57:49,174 But a lot of the time, I don't know what to say. 860 00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:51,927 So, I think it's important just to like-- 861 00:57:52,803 --> 00:57:54,805 Just so people can talk to somebody. 862 00:58:03,188 --> 00:58:07,234 [light rock music] 863 00:58:08,110 --> 00:58:11,321 [Kant] So, like I'm not like a-- a player or anything, 864 00:58:11,697 --> 00:58:12,656 or like a ladies man, 865 00:58:13,115 --> 00:58:13,949 like I'm far from it, 866 00:58:14,825 --> 00:58:17,869 but I found like I have more success with women 867 00:58:18,328 --> 00:58:21,540 as time has gone on, just because, like, I have more interests in things. 868 00:58:22,749 --> 00:58:26,753 Um, so I can talk about, like, the books that I like and, you know... 869 00:58:28,171 --> 00:58:30,090 I find that just women just like t-- you know, 870 00:58:30,424 --> 00:58:32,050 people who have their own interests, 871 00:58:32,509 --> 00:58:33,343 and you know, or their own people. 872 00:58:34,219 --> 00:58:35,012 So... 873 00:58:36,304 --> 00:58:41,351 I can't say that, like, I'm like the bigger, like, incel, like, anymore. 874 00:58:41,643 --> 00:58:42,686 [dramatic orchestral music] 875 00:58:55,157 --> 00:58:57,159 [Kant] So, I mean, I do worry about like, all these-- 876 00:58:57,534 --> 00:58:59,453 All these guys because I see so much potential in them. 877 00:59:00,328 --> 00:59:02,622 And, you know, I know what they're, like, going through 878 00:59:03,081 --> 00:59:03,999 and what path they're taking 879 00:59:04,541 --> 00:59:07,753 and I want to help them however, you know, I can to 880 00:59:08,462 --> 00:59:11,089 get beyond all of this and sort of realize that, 881 00:59:11,715 --> 00:59:14,468 you know, they have the power to create their own minds. 882 00:59:16,261 --> 00:59:19,222 Someone like Sean, he could be something, like, really great. 883 00:59:19,765 --> 00:59:21,725 Like, something like incredible. He could be like 884 00:59:22,184 --> 00:59:23,810 a great novelist, a great philosopher. 885 00:59:24,186 --> 00:59:25,812 He could be somebody who really, 886 00:59:26,104 --> 00:59:28,732 like, makes a huge impact on society. 887 00:59:29,441 --> 00:59:32,110 [upbeat music] 888 00:59:46,541 --> 00:59:48,335 [Sean] So, when I joined Twitter, the guy 889 00:59:48,627 --> 00:59:50,045 that got me really into reading was KantBot, 890 00:59:50,629 --> 00:59:54,132 and I've pretty much read everything that he suggested. 891 01:00:00,388 --> 01:00:04,434 People settle for being, like, the complete nerd who just reads a bunch of books, 892 01:00:04,726 --> 01:00:07,896 or the bodybuilder who's, like, ripped where it's just like, 893 01:00:08,188 --> 01:00:09,272 he doesn't care about anything else. 894 01:00:09,564 --> 01:00:11,817 It's like, like, "No, motherfucker. 895 01:00:12,109 --> 01:00:13,360 You have to be both." [chuckles] 896 01:00:16,613 --> 01:00:17,697 [music continues] 897 01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:21,785 [Sean] I work two jobs, 898 01:00:22,536 --> 01:00:27,290 and my mom has cancer, and it's cold as shit. 899 01:00:35,048 --> 01:00:37,676 I wake up at six a.m. every morning. 900 01:00:38,468 --> 01:00:43,223 And first thing I do is just have a small cup of fruit, 901 01:00:43,890 --> 01:00:46,726 drink some water. Then like, 30 minutes later, I'm... 902 01:00:47,561 --> 01:00:49,146 uh, starting squats. 903 01:00:55,569 --> 01:00:59,114 So, I do everything before I head off to work. 904 01:00:59,573 --> 01:01:00,740 That usually takes about... [sighs] 905 01:01:01,158 --> 01:01:02,993 ...an hour fifteen, an hour and a half. 906 01:01:03,451 --> 01:01:05,412 Like, a lot of people are just starting lifting. 907 01:01:06,371 --> 01:01:08,039 They're asking me for advice. 908 01:01:12,335 --> 01:01:14,963 It's physically a good thing, but it's also mentally a good thing... 909 01:01:16,214 --> 01:01:19,384 because a lot of people just do nothing, you know? 910 01:01:22,929 --> 01:01:26,141 But obviously a lot of guys just do it for chicks, but... 911 01:01:27,475 --> 01:01:29,477 I don't know, the whole chicks thing is just like, 912 01:01:29,853 --> 01:01:31,563 people do a lot of things for girls, you know? 913 01:01:38,236 --> 01:01:41,656 Yeah, since I've started, I've definitely gotten more attention from girls. 914 01:01:42,073 --> 01:01:44,201 Like, considerably, but... 915 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,578 you know, that's not... 916 01:01:47,370 --> 01:01:49,873 like, the driving force at this point, or anything. 917 01:01:51,791 --> 01:01:53,752 With this whole incel phenomenon it's-- 918 01:01:54,085 --> 01:01:57,255 Ironically there's never been an easier time to get laid ever, 919 01:01:58,548 --> 01:02:00,759 but it's like, that's not what it's about, it's like, 920 01:02:02,135 --> 01:02:04,721 I've had people ask if I was gay "cause I didn't want to hook up, 921 01:02:05,222 --> 01:02:06,097 and it's like... 922 01:02:06,848 --> 01:02:08,892 it's so far removed from reality and it's like, 923 01:02:09,184 --> 01:02:14,314 that's the joke, but... the joke is also that there kind of is no joke at this point. 924 01:02:15,857 --> 01:02:17,317 It's kind of pathetic. 925 01:02:17,776 --> 01:02:20,195 It's like, how can you make me better in the ways 926 01:02:20,570 --> 01:02:21,821 that I actually care about, it's like... 927 01:02:22,405 --> 01:02:27,244 caring about me now and caring about me a year from now 928 01:02:27,619 --> 01:02:29,621 is like, a completely different thing, 929 01:02:30,038 --> 01:02:30,497 and it's like I'm looking for someone 930 01:02:30,789 --> 01:02:32,540 who's going to care about me a year from now. 931 01:02:33,083 --> 01:02:34,668 I don't want to settle for something because it's like 932 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,753 I'm not even settling for myself. 933 01:02:37,837 --> 01:02:40,340 I feel like I'm always pushing myself. 934 01:02:43,343 --> 01:02:48,056 It's like a full-time job to fight the effects of modernity 935 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,643 and all the atrophy and stuff like that, so. 936 01:02:53,103 --> 01:02:55,939 We live in the most wealthy country in the world. 937 01:02:56,356 --> 01:02:59,901 It's like, we are the-- the most powerful country in the world. 938 01:03:00,193 --> 01:03:02,487 It's like, you would know it... [scoffs] right? 939 01:03:04,197 --> 01:03:06,783 Everything's about, like, some grind culture. 940 01:03:07,450 --> 01:03:09,953 It's like, grind in your 20s and grind in your 30s 941 01:03:10,328 --> 01:03:12,998 and grind in your 40s and grind yourself to the bone. 942 01:03:15,875 --> 01:03:18,044 It's like, there's no character building happening anywhere, 943 01:03:19,170 --> 01:03:22,382 but now I'm looking more to compete in power lifting. 944 01:03:22,966 --> 01:03:26,344 So, I'm taking my training a bit more seriously now. 945 01:03:27,512 --> 01:03:30,307 It's precisely because life isn't a meritocracy that it-- 946 01:03:30,598 --> 01:03:35,437 It just-- it doesn't faze me when someone has something that's better than me. 947 01:03:36,563 --> 01:03:39,316 It doesn't matter. It's like, you can't-- you can't change it. 948 01:03:40,066 --> 01:03:42,777 [melancholic music] 949 01:03:45,739 --> 01:03:48,325 I think my tolerance for most things has increased. 950 01:03:49,909 --> 01:03:52,370 I think my... 951 01:03:52,662 --> 01:03:59,919 proclivity for confrontation has also increased. I'm a pretty quiet person, but I generally... 952 01:04:01,087 --> 01:04:04,799 uh, I'm generally pretty mean to people when they deserve it now. 953 01:04:06,634 --> 01:04:08,845 [dog barks] 954 01:04:10,472 --> 01:04:12,390 Okay. [sniffs and breathes heavily] 955 01:04:15,101 --> 01:04:17,020 That was pretty difficult. [sighs] 956 01:04:18,355 --> 01:04:19,981 Upon further thought, 957 01:04:20,732 --> 01:04:22,776 yeah, it's been a very long two years. 958 01:04:23,526 --> 01:04:25,278 [man growling] 959 01:04:27,072 --> 01:04:28,990 [man yells and continues growling] 960 01:04:32,494 --> 01:04:35,580 ♪ Runnin' through these hoes like I'm Alek Minassian ♪ 961 01:04:36,081 --> 01:04:38,875 ♪ Hoppin' in the whip and I'm motherfuckin' crashin' it ♪ 962 01:04:39,501 --> 01:04:42,420 ♪ Up over the curb like I'm Alek Minassian ♪ 963 01:04:42,712 --> 01:04:46,299 ♪ Hoes suck my dick while I run over pedestrians ♪ 964 01:04:46,716 --> 01:04:50,053 ♪ Runnin' through these hoes like I'm Alek Minassian ♪ 965 01:04:50,345 --> 01:04:53,139 ♪ Hoppin' in the whip and I'm motherfuckin' crashing it ♪ 966 01:04:53,807 --> 01:04:56,476 ♪ Up over the curb like I'm Alek Minassian ♪ 967 01:04:57,435 --> 01:05:00,480 ♪ Hoes suck my dick while I run over pedestrians ♪ 968 01:05:01,147 --> 01:05:04,067 [rhythmic music] 969 01:05:08,196 --> 01:05:13,910 [Charels] On May 1st, I, uh, tweeted a, uh, joke about, uh, 970 01:05:14,577 --> 01:05:18,289 drifting my Miata into the mayday protesters in Seattle, 971 01:05:18,581 --> 01:05:20,792 while blasting, uh, "Super Eurobeat." 972 01:05:21,334 --> 01:05:22,460 Then I guess somebody reported it 973 01:05:22,752 --> 01:05:24,796 and they banned my Twitter and... 974 01:05:26,172 --> 01:05:27,549 It's gone. [chuckles] 975 01:05:28,550 --> 01:05:33,888 [Viddy] "Do you have white, teenage sons? Listen up. I've been watching my boys' online behavior and noticed 976 01:05:34,264 --> 01:05:37,308 that social media and vloggers are actively laying groundwork 977 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:41,479 in white teens to turn them into alt-right or white supremacists.” 978 01:05:42,063 --> 01:05:43,690 And there's like, this long thread. 979 01:05:44,232 --> 01:05:46,276 One of the suggestions is, 980 01:05:47,277 --> 01:05:49,863 "You can also watch political comedy shows with him, 981 01:05:50,155 --> 01:05:52,532 like Trevor Noah, John Oliver, Has an Minhaj. 982 01:05:53,741 --> 01:05:55,410 Talk about what makes their jokes funny. 983 01:05:55,869 --> 01:05:57,704 Who are the butt of the jokes? Do they punch up or down?" 984 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,124 And I can't think 985 01:06:01,916 --> 01:06:05,670 of anything that would be less interesting to, like, a teenager, 986 01:06:06,546 --> 01:06:10,884 than to be sitting with your mom watching, like, a comedy show 987 01:06:12,093 --> 01:06:15,889 and having to write an essay on why it's funny 988 01:06:16,264 --> 01:06:17,891 and why it's acceptable. 989 01:06:18,850 --> 01:06:20,560 If you try to do something like that, they're going to be... 990 01:06:22,645 --> 01:06:26,566 so turned off by that entire spectrum, 991 01:06:26,983 --> 01:06:30,904 that you're doing way more harm than good if that's your goal. 992 01:06:36,784 --> 01:06:40,997 [somber piano music] 993 01:06:45,543 --> 01:06:48,046 [Viddy] I don't want to blame our parents too bad. 994 01:06:48,546 --> 01:06:50,924 I get it's—- it's hard being a parent 995 01:06:51,382 --> 01:06:53,760 especially when you don't have a lot of money, 996 01:06:54,344 --> 01:06:57,472 but it's really hard for-- for kids 997 01:06:58,389 --> 01:07:00,850 to have, like, interests and not 998 01:07:01,392 --> 01:07:03,394 have anybody like... 999 01:07:04,187 --> 01:07:06,648 a caretaker sort of figure 1000 01:07:07,273 --> 01:07:11,694 that will express interest in what you're into. 1001 01:07:14,739 --> 01:07:17,325 It's the elephant in the room, right? 1002 01:07:19,619 --> 01:07:24,290 The failings of the broader education system 1003 01:07:24,582 --> 01:07:28,753 and just general authority figures in people's lives, 1004 01:07:29,045 --> 01:07:30,755 specifically children's lives. 1005 01:07:42,392 --> 01:07:43,393 [Viddy] A lot of them are bored. 1006 01:07:44,727 --> 01:07:46,020 I think more than anything. 1007 01:07:48,481 --> 01:07:52,944 People who are bored have the most potential to cause trouble. 1008 01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:56,948 [newsreader] The Joker movie had law enforcement on high alert 1009 01:07:57,282 --> 01:07:58,866 long before it hit the big screen. 1010 01:07:59,367 --> 01:08:01,661 So much so, Seattle Police spotted this tweet 1011 01:08:02,203 --> 01:08:04,789 of a man holding two AK-47-like guns, 1012 01:08:05,498 --> 01:08:08,251 with the words "One ticket for Joker, please." 1013 01:08:08,543 --> 01:08:11,337 [dark dramatic music] 1014 01:08:21,347 --> 01:08:24,183 [newsreader] Redmond Police say the man in the photo is 23 year old, 1015 01:08:24,475 --> 01:08:25,852 Charels... [beeps] 1016 01:08:26,436 --> 01:08:27,687 Can you introduce me as Joker? 1017 01:08:28,021 --> 01:08:29,397 Besides the threat about The Joker, 1018 01:08:29,897 --> 01:08:32,609 they say he made threats of violence against women. 1019 01:08:33,234 --> 01:08:38,239 "I really want to punch a woman so hard her entire body just buckles and collapses.” 1020 01:08:38,740 --> 01:08:41,659 [officer] We contacted the individual safely outside their residence. 1021 01:08:42,118 --> 01:08:44,454 He was very cooperative, compliant, uh, 1022 01:08:44,787 --> 01:08:47,165 and spoke to us and turned over all of his firearms. 1023 01:08:47,707 --> 01:08:49,292 I think absolutely it's the right thing to do. Yeah, 1024 01:08:49,584 --> 01:08:51,002 we don-- we don't need people like that threatening, 1025 01:08:51,294 --> 01:08:52,754 um, our families and people like that 1026 01:08:53,129 --> 01:08:55,006 that are going to the theater and enjoying family time. 1027 01:08:55,423 --> 01:08:57,967 [newsreader] He told police he never planned to hurt anyone. 1028 01:09:03,681 --> 01:09:07,935 [upbeat techno music] 1029 01:09:58,194 --> 01:09:59,779 [Kant] The reason that Trump won is that, 1030 01:10:00,154 --> 01:10:01,531 you had like, the media hegemony 1031 01:10:02,281 --> 01:10:04,409 of interpreting, like, reality, right? 1032 01:10:05,076 --> 01:10:07,286 And people just, like, rejected that 1033 01:10:07,912 --> 01:10:10,498 and realized that they could do whatever they want. 1034 01:10:11,207 --> 01:10:13,543 And that, like, there's no Monopoly on truth 1035 01:10:13,835 --> 01:10:16,379 that's held by, like, CNN and MSNBC and like, 1036 01:10:17,046 --> 01:10:19,424 there's like-- the establishment in terms of, 1037 01:10:19,716 --> 01:10:21,592 like, creating a narrative, has lost all of its power. 1038 01:10:22,844 --> 01:10:24,887 It's not really about taking anything over, so to speak. 1039 01:10:25,179 --> 01:10:27,265 It's just about, like, defining reality for yourself. 1040 01:10:29,851 --> 01:10:31,102 I mean, this is like, the nature, like, 1041 01:10:31,394 --> 01:10:32,562 of consciousness is like 1042 01:10:32,854 --> 01:10:34,063 each tweet is a moment of consciousness 1043 01:10:35,064 --> 01:10:36,691 and they're all connected by your brand. 1044 01:10:37,608 --> 01:10:39,819 [music continues] 1045 01:10:43,531 --> 01:10:44,782 [train rumbles] 1046 01:10:48,077 --> 01:10:52,039 [light music] 1047 01:10:53,833 --> 01:10:56,085 [Kant] The "feeling when no girlfriend" boys, 1048 01:10:56,586 --> 01:10:59,338 you can like, scorn them for, like, not following the like... 1049 01:11:00,173 --> 01:11:01,924 the set path, but really, they're the ones 1050 01:11:02,258 --> 01:11:03,885 who are paving the way for everyone in the future, because 1051 01:11:04,927 --> 01:11:08,264 they're the ones who are, you know, preparing for 1052 01:11:09,098 --> 01:11:12,059 the demise of these institutions which, you know, 1053 01:11:12,477 --> 01:11:15,813 are no longer supporting, you know, the-- the synthesis, 1054 01:11:16,189 --> 01:11:19,817 or the unity of our-- our society as a whole. 1055 01:11:22,528 --> 01:11:25,156 Personally, I don't think that anything is more, like, hopeful. 1056 01:11:26,574 --> 01:11:27,283 There's no sense that... 1057 01:11:28,785 --> 01:11:29,619 you know, because... 1058 01:11:31,037 --> 01:11:33,206 people are posting on Twitter or doing a podcast 1059 01:11:33,498 --> 01:11:36,626 or whatever, that like, the modern condition IS any more... 1060 01:11:38,795 --> 01:11:41,547 you know, bearable, but as long as that process continues, 1061 01:11:41,839 --> 01:11:44,759 I still think it's hopeful in a sense that it's, like, continuing. 1062 01:11:51,891 --> 01:11:55,311 Rough day, huh? Life seems meaningless, huh? 1063 01:11:56,187 --> 01:11:59,398 Well, you're correct. Its purpose must be chosen by you. 1064 01:11:59,899 --> 01:12:03,110 Understand that sadness and pain is a natural part of life, 1065 01:12:03,653 --> 01:12:06,113 but it isn't what life revolves around. 1066 01:12:06,697 --> 01:12:09,826 Learn to enjoy the ride and seek out beauty in your surroundings. 1067 01:12:11,118 --> 01:12:13,371 Free your mind. Wake up. 1068 01:12:14,789 --> 01:12:17,124 [drums music] 1069 01:12:21,337 --> 01:12:23,256 [gentle rock music] 1070 01:12:38,729 --> 01:12:44,443 [Kyle] I used to feel that way, like, just hating everything in the modern world. 1071 01:12:45,486 --> 01:12:46,821 Shit like this, you know? 1072 01:12:47,822 --> 01:12:49,824 Fucking highways and factories and shit. 1073 01:12:53,619 --> 01:12:57,164 I just think it's fucking ugly, awful and just inhuman, but... 1074 01:12:58,666 --> 01:13:03,045 we fucking grow to, uh, you know, appreciate it and think it's like... 1075 01:13:05,172 --> 01:13:08,509 You know, it's like fucking, dystopian movies, 1076 01:13:08,801 --> 01:13:10,553 fucking Blade Runner or... 1077 01:13:12,096 --> 01:13:14,223 I can't think of any others off the top of my head but, like... 1078 01:13:18,102 --> 01:13:20,730 I remember I was on that Greyhound bus to get here. 1079 01:13:22,607 --> 01:13:25,484 And it was late at night and everyone was just fucking tired and miserable, 1080 01:13:26,527 --> 01:13:28,029 and I'm sitting with this dude I've never-- 1081 01:13:28,362 --> 01:13:30,072 You know, I never met the guy, just on the fucking bus, 1082 01:13:31,365 --> 01:13:33,117 and, you know, we just start talking. 1083 01:13:33,409 --> 01:13:34,911 He's like, "Fuck, man. This fucking sucks, huh?" 1084 01:13:36,412 --> 01:13:38,623 It's like, "Yeah, man, but shit, we're in it together," 1085 01:13:39,248 --> 01:13:40,416 you know, it's like that. It's like, "Fuck it. 1086 01:13:40,708 --> 01:13:43,711 We're-- we're all living it. Try and enjoy it." 1087 01:13:44,921 --> 01:13:48,966 [music continues] 1088 01:13:59,393 --> 01:14:01,896 [Sean] It's like, is it about Kyle? Is about KantBot? 1089 01:14:02,313 --> 01:14:03,606 Is it about Viddy and Charels? 1090 01:14:04,690 --> 01:14:06,901 There are striking similarities between all of them. 1091 01:14:08,027 --> 01:14:11,739 So, it's like, this archetype story, I guess. 1092 01:14:12,031 --> 01:14:15,201 So, it's not just mine. It's-- it's other people's story as well. 1093 01:14:16,452 --> 01:14:20,623 I think that, the "TFW no GF" thing's an idea that's 1094 01:14:21,123 --> 01:14:23,376 not confined to this period of time, 1095 01:14:23,668 --> 01:14:25,753 it's like, you go look at the graffiti in Pompeii. 1096 01:14:26,629 --> 01:14:29,215 There's people "TFW no GF" posting. 1097 01:14:31,676 --> 01:14:34,220 It's like, the whole point is just, if you know someone who's 1098 01:14:34,637 --> 01:14:36,222 having a hard time, give them a call. 1099 01:14:36,847 --> 01:14:38,516 It's like, okay, no one else is going to... 1100 01:14:39,809 --> 01:14:41,602 you know, pamper you through life, but it's like, 1101 01:14:42,395 --> 01:14:46,023 you have three other dudes in, like, some group chat and it's like... 1102 01:14:47,066 --> 01:14:49,527 it's like these are your closest friends in the whole world. 1103 01:14:51,654 --> 01:14:54,031 [waves crashing] 1104 01:14:57,076 --> 01:15:01,455 My hopes would be that I just don't stagnate, I guess. 1105 01:15:01,789 --> 01:15:04,208 I want to keep, you know, moving forward with myself 1106 01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:07,044 and, you know, get some shit done. 1107 01:15:08,212 --> 01:15:09,630 It's not really all that elaborate. 1108 01:15:11,257 --> 01:15:13,509 Like, you know, starting a career and... 1109 01:15:15,469 --> 01:15:17,888 meeting new people, seeing new things. 1110 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,143 Just normal, everyday stuff. 1111 01:15:33,571 --> 01:15:37,825 [uplifting choral music] 1112 01:15:51,922 --> 01:15:54,258 [Viddy] Every day, I don't even know if I'm going to make it. 1113 01:15:54,717 --> 01:15:57,094 Like, you don't know what's going to happen. 1114 01:15:57,845 --> 01:15:58,721 Maybe things will get better. 1115 01:15:59,013 --> 01:15:59,972 Maybe they'll get worse. 1116 01:16:14,445 --> 01:16:18,824 "There was a post about, or shooting women" 1117 01:16:19,408 --> 01:16:19,825 Yeah. 1118 01:16:20,201 --> 01:16:22,953 "Was there ever, uh 1119 01:16:24,246 --> 01:16:30,336 was that ever, like, some sort of desire that you had, or urge that you had?" 1120 01:16:30,961 --> 01:16:31,420 No. 1121 01:16:33,255 --> 01:16:34,423 [music continues] 1122 01:16:42,223 --> 01:16:46,352 "Do you consider, do you assoicate yourself, with the incel community? 1123 01:16:46,977 --> 01:16:48,979 No, I have a girlfriend and everything. 1124 01:16:56,612 --> 01:17:00,241 I'll say we're all going to make it. 1125 01:17:00,825 --> 01:17:02,785 I'll say that. I'll give that sound bite. 1126 01:17:03,119 --> 01:17:04,078 We're all going to make it. 1127 01:17:07,164 --> 01:17:09,041 [Kant] The experiences of some of these people are not, like, 1128 01:17:09,458 --> 01:17:11,043 totally outside of the realm 1129 01:17:11,418 --> 01:17:13,337 of things that happen in history. 1130 01:17:13,879 --> 01:17:16,090 It's not like, you know, they're going to the, uh, 1131 01:17:17,133 --> 01:17:18,551 you know, concentration camps or whatever. 1132 01:17:20,261 --> 01:17:22,221 [music continues] 1133 01:17:25,224 --> 01:17:26,725 At the end of the day, you're making a movie about life. 1134 01:17:27,017 --> 01:17:28,602 You're making a movie about people's lives, right? 1135 01:17:29,478 --> 01:17:30,896 It's like, what's the end of life? 1136 01:17:31,313 --> 01:17:32,189 What's the point of life? 1137 01:17:32,857 --> 01:17:34,024 You want to have something at the end of the movie, 1138 01:17:34,441 --> 01:17:35,651 where you say what the point of life is? 1139 01:17:36,026 --> 01:17:36,986 It's like, that's ridiculous. 1140 01:17:37,903 --> 01:17:39,655 [choral music continues] 1141 01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,033 So like, Faust's quest, he's like searching for Helena 1142 01:17:43,409 --> 01:17:45,703 and he's like, searching for the other part of himself, 1143 01:17:46,453 --> 01:17:47,454 in like, Helena, 1144 01:17:47,872 --> 01:17:48,831 which is why he goes to the underworld 1145 01:17:49,540 --> 01:17:50,875 and he's like riding on a centaur and shit. 1146 01:17:51,750 --> 01:17:53,752 And like, trying to like, rescue her from Hades, 1147 01:17:54,712 --> 01:17:56,172 but the whole point of the book is that, like, 1148 01:17:56,755 --> 01:17:58,799 that's not like-- that isn't the end of the book, 1149 01:17:59,133 --> 01:18:01,343 like, that's not what happens in the end. 1150 01:18:01,677 --> 01:18:03,721 That's not what, like, breaks the curse 1151 01:18:04,221 --> 01:18:06,015 like Mephistopheles has placed on him, 1152 01:18:06,307 --> 01:18:07,641 because the whole premise of the book is, like, 1153 01:18:08,017 --> 01:18:12,062 Mephistopheles is saying that, when you reach a point, 1154 01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,982 where you wish that, like, 1155 01:18:15,357 --> 01:18:17,818 this mome-- like a moment can last for infinity, 1156 01:18:18,485 --> 01:18:20,654 is that then you will, like, have your soul redeemed, 1157 01:18:20,946 --> 01:18:23,407 and like, the bargain that you made with the devil, 1158 01:18:23,782 --> 01:18:26,452 be like, undone and you'll be able to, like, go to heaven. 1159 01:18:26,744 --> 01:18:30,164 So like, that ultimately has nothing to do with, like, Helena, 1160 01:18:30,706 --> 01:18:33,292 and then he goes on to, like, raise the city of Atlantis and shit, so... 1161 01:18:34,043 --> 01:18:36,795 [choral music continues] 1162 01:19:04,073 --> 01:19:08,285 [upbeat rock music] 1163 01:19:25,094 --> 01:19:27,429 ♪ Alone again, no friends ♪ 1164 01:19:27,846 --> 01:19:30,099 ♪ No helping hand ♪ 1165 01:19:30,474 --> 01:19:32,726 ♪ Nobody who cares ♪ 1166 01:19:33,018 --> 01:19:35,396 ♪ Nobody that understands ♪ 1167 01:19:36,021 --> 01:19:40,359 ♪ Oh, no, I'm alone again ♪ 1168 01:19:43,237 --> 01:19:47,032 ♪ That feel when no girlfriend ♪ 1169 01:19:48,784 --> 01:19:53,247 ♪ That feel when no girlfriend ♪ 1170 01:19:54,123 --> 01:19:58,585 ♪ That feel when no girlfriend ♪ 1171 01:19:59,253 --> 01:20:03,716 ♪ That feel when no girlfriend ♪ 1172 01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,345 ♪ Oh, when will it end? ♪ 1173 01:20:28,741 --> 01:20:33,620 ♪ All I want is a girl who understands ♪ 1174 01:20:33,912 --> 01:20:36,749 ♪ And holds my hand and likes to dance ♪ 1175 01:20:37,082 --> 01:20:38,083 ♪ 'Cause I'm her man ♪ 1176 01:20:38,584 --> 01:20:40,002 ♪ She makes wedding plans ♪ 1177 01:20:40,336 --> 01:20:44,340 ♪ I have so much love I want to share ♪ 1178 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:50,804 ♪ Why is life so unfair? ♪ 1179 01:20:52,848 --> 01:20:56,226 ♪ That feel when no girlfriend ♪ 1180 01:20:58,103 --> 01:21:02,649 ♪ Oh, why is life so bad? ♪ 1181 01:21:03,525 --> 01:21:07,988 ♪ That feel when no girlfriend ♪ 1182 01:21:12,201 --> 01:21:12,910 [song abruptly ends] 1183 01:21:13,619 --> 01:21:14,828 [drum beat] 97378

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